Thursday, December 31, 2009

Dating show for Kate in the works

Oh Jiminy Crickets.....

Wednesday, December 30, 2009

Kate is spotted out going to the tanning salon

Kate is getting in some New Year's tanning on Wednesday, still glued to her iPhone.

Hailey and Jon reportedly sit down and talk a truce,,20333812,00.html

Will they wave the white flag?

Hailey is now alleging domestic violence

Hailey has filed a complaint with the NY police, claiming Jon pushed her against a wall.

Tuesday, December 29, 2009

Legal, Physical, and Primary....what's the difference?

The first family law order I prepared was like Latin to me (a lot of the law literally is Latin). But 100's of family law orders later I've come to realize that it can actually be broken down very simply. So here goes:

The two main parts of custody to really understand are Legal custody and Physical custody. We'll worry about Primary Custody and how Child Support plays into this a little later.

Legal Custody: Legal custody is easy, it just means who gets to make the important decisions in a child's life--almost always the big three: what school they will go to, what medical treatment they will get, and what religion they will be raised in. Assume it's always joint, or 50-50. The only other alternative is sole, to one parent. You usually can't have a 40-60 split legal custody. Absent some kind of detriment, such as a parent who uses drugs, abuses the children, or perhaps is in prison and not able to assist with legal decisions, legal custody is 50-50. But what if there's a tie vote? Then you either have to deal with it on your own, or drag the other parent into court. For Jon and Kate, legal is 50-50.

Physical Custody: A little harder, but not bad. Who will spend what percentage of time with the children? It can be 50-50, or any other combination. When you have more than 50, you are considered to hold "physical custody" with the other parent having visitation rights. Holding physical custody is by no means an automatic indication the other parent never sees the kid or it's some kind of victory for you. It just means, you happen to have the children the majority of the time. What's more important is how much primary do you have? Do you have 70 to 80 percent? Well, then you might want to brag. Here, Kate has physical custody, because her time with the children is more than 51 percent. We have not been told the exact percentage she holds or the arrangement. For all we know, she could have 51 percent, given we see Jon with the kids all the time. When you have less than 50 percent, then you are referred to as holding "visitation rights." Jon has visitation rights, that's all we've been told. It gets complicated because actually arranging what time who spends with whom can be a nightmare. In general, the more time you spend with the kids, the less child support you pay.

Now on to the other stuff.....

Child support: Paid by the person who doesn't have physical custody. Here, Jon. How much you pay in PA is based on a complicated formula of your income and the children's needs and the amount of time you spend with them. It is not punitive, nor permanent! It can change based on changes in your own situation (you lose your job, or you get your dream job).

Primary Custody: Simple as it comes. What is the children's address for purposes of school records, government records, etc.? It is much easier if they have just one. That is all this means. Here, it's Kate's address. It's hardly something to brag about. What's more important is how much physical custody you have.

Good job, Kate

Don't say we never say good things about Kate.

1. Today Kate took Cara to the dentist. No nanny, no bodyguard, just Kate doing what a normal mom does. Kate was also dressed a little more mom-ish. Still hip, but not over the top. Good job!

2. Kate is saying "no comment" about Jon's break in. No comment goes so far. Double good job!

Monday, December 28, 2009

Paula Deen was reportedly worried her show would be too much attention for Kate

Paula Deen is so cute, worrying about Kate. We are more likely to worry about the kids, as in how much time away from home a talk show in another state starring their mother would require, but hey, someone has to worry about Kate.

Sources are reporting that Kate was never really a serious contender for the show with Deen. "Quiet" and "shy" on set, she was more likely to just be a guest.

Will the security cameras show the real perpetrator?

Of course a building like this will have a ton of cameras. Only a seasoned crook would be able to avoid them. Jon's lawyers are convinced the real perpetrator will be all over the security cameras.

Sunday, December 27, 2009

Police appear to have ruled Hailey out for the time being

Hailey was questioned by the police Saturday and her mother Sunday. No arrests were made and no charges filed. The police don't seem to be centering their suspicions on her.

Hailey's attorney says she was framed, and it certainly looks that way.

Bodyguard Steve spends another holiday with Kate

While Jon was back in New York dealing with the bizarre robbery and slashing of his apartment, Steve spent the day after Christmas at Kate's house. He was spotted unloading presents from his SUV on December 26 at Kate's. Steve also spent Thanksgiving this year with Kate. Just friends?

Update: Hailey gets lawyer, intends to cooperate with police

Coincidence or not, Jon's ex-girlfriend Hailey just last Friday was reportedly furious when Jon allegedly pocketed her half of the rent money instead of paying rent. Hailey has retained New York attorney Stephanie Ovadia (pictured at right) to help her through this mess. Reportedly, she intends to speak with police and cooperate.

Meanwhile, forensic experts are analyzing the note left behind signed with her name.

Saturday, December 26, 2009

Update: Jon's apartment was slashed to pieces with a knife, Jon wants felony charges filed

"When Jon entered his Manhattan apartment this afternoon, he found his "shoes, shirts, luggage, bed, curtain, rugs and other furnishings" had been slashed by a "sick perpetrator" -- and it doesn't stop there. We're told Jon's television, CD player, coffee maker, a Nintendo Wii game, dishes, pots and pans were taken from his apartment. Jon's attorney also says a Ming vase, believed to be over 100 years old ... was "smashed to pieces." As for the note that was left behind ... it was "speared" to Jon's bedroom dresser with a butcher knife."

Was this crazy person really Hailey, or Kate, or a disgruntled viewer who misses the show? Whoever did it knows who Jon is, as the note was signed "Hailey." Shades of Tonya Harding?

BREAKING NEWS: Bizarre robbery at Jon's NYC pad. Robber left note signed "Hailey"

Jon's NYC apartment was reportedly ransacked over the Christmas holiday. The burglar left a knife stabbed in a pillow with a note signed "Hailey." Details pending.

Thursday, December 24, 2009

Merry Christmas

Hope everyone enjoys the holiday. No major news to report, so we're posting this amusing video Jon made a few weeks ago, poking fun at himself. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

Wednesday, December 23, 2009

Radaronline slams Jon's sledding time with his kids

Radaronline's headline about Jon's day out sledding with his kids is appalling. Says the celeb gossip site, "VIDEO: Jon Gosselin Actually Does A Good Deed & Spends Time With His Kids." (

"Actually?" Excuse us???

Just so Radaronline knows, both Jon and Kate have admitted several times that Jon is a very hands on parent. Jon got the kids up and ready for school while Kate slept. Jon served Kate coffee made to order in bed. Jon worked a full time job, then came home and looked after the children some more. Jon did baths. Jon did tucking in. Jon did the driving, the gas. Jon spent almost every weekend working on a project to help the family, such as giving the twins bigger bedrooms. He rarely if ever went out with friends. He was incredibly involved in his eight children's lives and he was one of the most hands-on fathers we've ever seen. Up until recently, he was the kind of father most men can only hope to be.

This is not unusual to see Jon spending time with the kids. What's unusual is that the media is actually reporting that he is spending quality time with them.

Radaronline can stop spinning this story every which way they can in Kate's favor and report the facts. Fact: Jon spent quality time with the kids yesterday. Fact: Jon has spent quality time with the kids over and over and over, many, many times in the past.

We have said ad nauseam, Jon and Kate have both made mistakes. They have both screwed up. But they also have both made good choices. But for some reason, Jon's good choices are rarely reported. Or when they are, they are spun in this shameful manner. We will report it here. Fathers are often treated differently in a divorce, and clearly in this case, Kate successfully got most of the media on her side and against the father. But we will report what is going on with this family as fairly as possible, always.

How will Kate make money now?

Thanks to Lauren for the tip ...

Rumors have been going around as far back as September that Kate was cooking up a View-style talk show with celebs like Paula Dean. But after bombing on the View, as well as all the mess with her divorce and Jon's lawsuit, sources say she has been dropped from the show as too "controversial."

We have a sneaking suspicion she also couldn't get along with fellow divas like Paula Dean. It's a small world in diva land.

Kate's show with TLC is still in the work, recently filming a test shoot in North Carolina. Sequels often flop; will Kate be able to make her show work? If it even gets the green light. TLC has to make money--clearly that's all they care about. And if the test numbers are poor, they will drop Kate faster than a rock.

Here's to many more moments like these

Jon was at the family home yesterday enjoying visitation. He spent the afternoon pulling the kids around on sleds. Looks like everyone was having a ball.

Kids don't need fancy vacations, clothes, toys, schools, or mansions. They need a sled ($10 at Target), snow (free), and Daddy (available on visitation days).

Here's to many more moments like these in the new year.

Tuesday, December 22, 2009

Jon tries to trade in his BMW and downsize

Perhaps finally realizing how much his lifestyle exceeds his income (we've been saying this for years), and with a huge monthly child support order to pay now, Jon was spotted Friday at a used car lot .... trying to trade in his BMW for a more economical car, a Subaru, plus some cash. But apparently not able to come to a deal he was happy with, Jon drove off with the same BMW.

Here is the BMW another blogger has identified as Jon's car, pricing it for a cool $40,000.

Monday, December 21, 2009

Kate out shopping Sunday

A generous child support order under her belt, Kate was caught out on a shopping spree (no bodyguard??) on Sunday. Presents for the kids? No. The top quality Kitchen Aid mixer in her cart is not exactly meant for children.

The mixer appears to be this model, which retails for $340.00.

Confession...we really like her modest but stylish outfit.

Saturday, December 19, 2009

Kate drops giant anvil of a hint she wants an offer for Dancing With the Stars

Dancing with the Stars films in Los Angeles, across the country. Kate? Stop trying so pathetically to be a celebrity and go be with your kids--you got full custody and a great child support order, now STAY HOME.

Friday, December 18, 2009

Details of finalized divorce

  • Kate gets the mansion (how she will afford this we have no clue)
  • Kate gets primary custody of the kids--that just means their address is her address
  • Jon has visitation rights
  • Jon reportedly must pay monthly child support on the order of five figures.
  • No spousal support/alimony for either


Details to follow.

Thursday, December 17, 2009

Jon ordered to remove firearms from property

After photos surfaced of Jon practicing shooting a pistol on the property yesterday, the court ordered today Jon is not to have any firearms on the property.

Probably not the best idea to target practice with a deadly weapon just before your divorce is final. Add this to the list of dumb moves this father has made.

Wednesday, December 16, 2009

Divorce won't be final until the new year

Despite reports an arbitrator had reached a decision, Jon's lawyer says the divorce probably won't be finalized until 2010.

Interestingly enough, he also denies Jon is hurting for cash.

Arbitration decision is in on divorce

TMZ is reporting that the Arbitrator has reached a decision on division of assets and other issues in the Jon and Kate divorce and submitted it to the Court. The decision remains confidential. If true, the judge need only sign off for the divorce to be finalized.

Tuesday, December 15, 2009

Jon is broke

It's obvious Jon is broke, but a source has confirmed it today. The source says Jon was counting on media appearance, but now that there is an injunction, he has no income. They say he is making no effort to try to get a job outside the entertainment industry.

A big mortgage, expensive house to maintain, 8 kids to provide for, 8 private school tuitions, expensive's probably time to downsize.

And again, shame on TLC for taking money from the children. This is their provider, a fact they overlook.

Monday, December 14, 2009

Tiger Woods smashes Jon and Kate into the nearest sandpit

Tiger Woods' recent drama is so much more salacious and interesting than Jon and Kate can ever hope to be. Jon and Kate's shenanigans are only for beginners. Their 15 Minutes are coming to an end, and Tiger Woods may have just pushed that minutes' hand to number 16. That is certainly not whom anyone expected would do it, but we are grateful just the same.

Here are some tips for Jon and Kate to keep their story going.

1. Don't act like a douche. Then people just expect bad behavior, which is boring. Always behave completely uprighteous and morally correct, only leaking a few beautiful family photos to the press featuring your kids and dogs. That way when you screw up it's all the more shocking.

2. Always say no comment. Always. Never talk to the press and always remain secluded. It is much more interesting for the public to speculate what you might say or do, than to release some stupid carefully crafted press release that is gone and forgotten within 24 hours.

3. Do something completely shocking, like crashing your car at 2 am outside your own home, then be incredibly vague about how it happened and don't explain things that don't add up, like why the back window was broken to get you out when you were sitting in the driver's seat.

4. A little domestic violence in your morally upstanding relationship, or rather just a few clues their might be domestic violence, is incredibly interesting.

5. Lots of women creates more tabloid covers and more opportunities for stories, rather than just one or two.

6. Children's services should be investigating your family. You don't want to actually get your kids taken away, but just the suggestion that you might keeps people glued.

7. Release a few clues every few days, but nothing to actually explain the whole thing. A few voice mails, text messages, police reports, and medical records, slowly made public over several weeks, keeps the story going forever.

8. Be happy when you are a parody on Saturday Night Live. Congrats, you've made it.

But seriously, we hope Jon and Kate's ridiculous story has come to an end and that they will quickly fade into obscurity. And we wish Tiger Woods and his family all the best in working through their many problems.

Sunday, December 13, 2009

Why was TLC required to post bond? Because they might lose.

Some questions have come up in comments about the $50,000 bond TLC was required to post.

Contrary to many Internet reports, TLC has not "won" their lawsuit, had their contract declared valid, received damages from Jon, or anything of the like. They have simply had a preliminary injunction granted to stop Jon from unauthorized appearances pending the result of the lawsuit.

When you hear bond, most people think jail. But this is not a criminal case, so this is not the same as getting out of jail. It's a "civil bond" or a "surety bond."

Surety bonds can be used for a wide variety of purposes, but in this case it may be required to ensure TLC will be cooperative in the lawsuit, attending all court dates, come prepared, etc. If they don't, the judge can easily pull money from their bond. Thus, a strong incentive to be on their toes. It also assumes that most lawsuits are a drain on a court's resources and time, and thus a drain on the taxpayer. So if TLC loses, they may be required to compensate taxpayers for waste of time, and money can be taken from the bond they've posted. If they win, they get the bond back. One of the main purposes is to protect taxpayers and discourage unnecessary lawsuits. It is also an incentive to settle the case in Mediation, or risk losing the bond if they gamble on a trial and lose.

Jon's lawyers could have requested TLC post bond, or the judge could have just ordered it on his own motion.

Either way, we think it is a strong message from the judge that TLC better be serious about coming to an agreement with Job, or risk losing a lot of money.

Friday, December 11, 2009

Jon missed court to stay with the kids

Jon Gosselin missed his court hearing yesterday (his appearance was not required), and the Kate camp was quick to jump all over him for not showing up.

Jon however, reports a variety of sources today, stayed home with the children. Perhaps Kate was still out making her new show and couldn't watch them?

We're just happy the kids weren't left with the nanny again.

Jon and TLC headed to Mediation to try to resolve dispute

Before the big trial day of April 19th, Jon and TLC will take a crack at settling the case in Mediation. Mediation usually involves a neutral mediator, not necessarily an attorney but someone experienced in helping resolve disputes. If all the parties agree and the judge approves the settlement, it is just as binding as a resolution a trial would be.

Good luck to the parties. Alternative dispute resolution is almost always less emotionally draining, costly, and lengthy as a big trial.

In the meantime, Circuit Judge Michael Mason has ordered Jon must get written consent before making public statements about the show, TLC or Discovery. He cannot do media "except insofar as such appearances" are unpaid and meet certain other terms, according to the order.

Thursday, December 10, 2009



A judge has granted TLC's preliminary injunction and Jon may not make any appearances pending trial. Jon's attorneys argued that Jon's breach did not cause "irreparable harm," a requirement to get an injunction. In fact, they pointed out, TLC's ratings have been through the roof since Jon breached the contract. The judge disagreed. What does this mean for Jon? Well, he is not allowed to make any appearances, or really, do anything, pending the upcoming trial. Jon argued that his media appearances are his livelihood. TLC argued he is an IT tech and hasn't done anything to go out and get a job. The judge says no more media for Jon until the outcome of the trial.

What is a preliminary injunction?

Think of a preliminary injunction like a temporary restraining order. It is typically issued pending a judge's final decision, just as it was here. Because Jon could continue breaching his contract and causing even more harm to TLC between now and the trial date of April 19th, a judge has "restrained" him from doing anything else until he sorts this all out. Jon may still be able to make appearances after his trial, he is only temporary stopped from doing so.

Next court date April 19.

Update: Does Radaroline come over and read DGS? Tee-hee! They have now corrected their story to explain, as we did from the beginning, that the Court only granted TLC's injunction and not their whole case yet. TLC sees this as a "validation" of their contract, but it is no such thing. It is simply a restraint to prevent Jon from doing anything else until the Judge decides how to handle the rest of the case. Think of it as a "freeze."

BREAKING NEWS: TLC admits they didn't pay the kids and didn't have permits

TLC also says they will comply with Jon's request to stop filming the kids: "If the father of the children states an objection of the kids being filmed, we're gonna honor that."

Radar online has running commentary from the hearing ongoing today, in which Jon is reported to not be in attendance but is expected later for his testimony.

Wednesday, December 9, 2009

Andrews Ave. house sells

Radaronline is reporting Jon and Kate's Andrew's Ave. house has sold for around $300,000.

The price was just recently dropped from the mid-300's, a number very likely far too high to generate any interest in this market.

"Do you realize what an empty emotional life they have if they miss a production crew?"

We could not have said it better. Thank you, Baltimore Sun.

Kate says kids are sobbing for the camera crew

Kate will be part of Barbara's Top 10 People of 2009 tonight on ABC, and it's been leaked that she tells Barbara the kids are sobbing because they miss the camera crew.

It's probably true the kids are upset. But what Kate doesn't realize is that it's not that we think she is exaggerating or lying about their emotional state. They probably are upset. The problem is they have had such a dysfunctional childhood in the first place that they are now in a place where they are crying for a bunch of 20-something, pot smoking, scruffy haired young men thrilled to be in show business, even in the middle of PA. That is a problem. The kids need to get normal friends their age, relatives and close friends to become attached to and not crew members, and a routine that doesn't involve a flux of said strangers in and out of their lives. Hopefully that has started and will continue.

Tuesday, December 8, 2009

Kate starts filming new food show

That didn't take long. Kate was caught at Finch's Restaurant's in North Carolina today, full camera crew with her, filming her cooking at the restaurant. Bodyguard and rumored lover Steve was with her, and told reporters they were filming a "test" for her new show. The kids? With the nanny we assume.

Speculation continues that Kate is beginning some sort of organic food show. TLC has confirmed they intend to begin a new show starring Kate to air this spring.

Jon barely knew Michael Lohan

Team Jon has responded to allegations from Michael Lohan and Kate Major. Jon's lawyer says Jon never had a contract with either one, and that Jon only knew Michael Lohan for about a week.

Saturday, December 5, 2009

Even Barbara Walters knows kids deserve privacy

A few days ago, Barbara Walter's 10 most facinating people of 2009 list was leaked, and Kate Gosselin is on the list. Also on the list, however, are Michael Jackson's young children.

The typical format of Wa-wa's top 10 list is a brief interview with each person, usually in their own environment such as at their home. But was Wawa going to interview the Jackson children about everything they've been through this year? Exploitive, much?

Fortunatly, there will be no interview. The segment will feature old footage including old interviews with Michael. The children will be left to their privacy.

Even Barbara knows kids don't need cameras in their faces.

Thursday, December 3, 2009

Mady has the happy back in her step

Mady Gosselin is probably one of the most "controversial" of the plus eight. Lots of viewers think she's a stuck up brat, while others feel terribly sorry for her.

The change in Mady since filming stopped has been dramatic, and it's a real relief. Whether you thought her a brat, or just a normal child in a terrible situation, it is so wonderful to see her smiling cheerful face. Up until now, we were hard pressed to find a candid photograph of Mady smiling that is more recent than at least a few years ago. The past few years have really been a drain on her.

Look at the difference.

At left, Mady during filming:

And at right, Mady just a few days ago....

Let this be just the beginning of the pep in her step.

Jon's lawyers say TLC prevented him from making Super Bowl commercials

Any man's dream is to be involved in the Super Bowl somehow, if only in a commercial on the big day. Jon's lawyers say he was offered at least two Super Bowl commercials for next year's game. But TLC prevented him from accepting them. His lawyer calls the move "mean-spirited."

Wednesday, December 2, 2009

Kate can't put her cell phone down either

In yet another case of what's good for the goose must be good for the Gosselin, Kate was caught out with Mady yesterday in Reading .... on her cell phone the whole time.

In the last few episodes of the series, Kate infamously accused Jon of, among other things, being on his cell phone all the time and ignoring the kids. (Parental alienation going on here?) However we were easily able to count up at least six separate incidents in which Kate has been glued to her hot pink iPhone. And as of yesterday, seven. If you're going to bash the children's father, at least make sure you can't be accused of the same thing.

On another note, is was so nice to see how happy and carefree Mady seemed on this outing, happier than she has seemed in a long time. Could it be because this 9-year-old is no longer slave to a grueling production schedule?

Court dates moved up

After some kind of trial setting conference Tuesday with all parties on the case, a judge has moved the hearing for a preliminary injunction from December 14 to December 10th. The trial date was moved up to April 19th, 2010.

Internet buzz claim the move is because TLC is anxious to get Jon. But a few days is not all that significant. It could simply be due to court congestion. And all parties have to agree on the new dates. If Jon's side is not ready, they simply tell the judge they need more time. Certainly when dates are moved UP, all parties must agree (it's a different story when dates are moved back). As long as it's reasonable and not a request meant to delay the procedings, most judges will accommodate them. We interpret it as both sides are ready to go.

Tuesday, December 1, 2009

Kate Gosselin on Barbara's list for most facinating???

Barbara Walters has picked her 10 most facinating people of 2009, and it looks like Kate is on the list. Kate? Seriously, Wawa?
What's facinating is if the Gosselin children are able to muddle through the rest of their childhoods without any significant emotional problems from their parents' divorce played out on everyone's televisions.
Also reportedly on the list: Sarah Palin, of "bring me my retarded baby" fame, Lady Gaga (whata now?) and Adam Lambert. Pleassse.

We have some suggestions for Barbara for the real facinating people out there from 2009. Not ego-maniacs revelling in their 15 Minutes.

1. Police Officer Kim Munley, who opened fire on the Fort Hood gunman and stopped the rampage, saving who knows how many lives.
2. Sully Sullivan, who landed U.S. Airways Flight safely in the Hudson River earlier this year.

3. California firefighters, who this fall fought and saved thousands of homes and lives from some of the biggest forest fires the state has ever seen.

4. Barack Obama, sworn in as the nation's first African-American president in January and awarded the Nobel Peace prize.

5. Michael Oher, the homeless African-American teenager who eventually graduated from high school, college, and started playing football for the Baltimore Ravens this season. His story is told in the newly released film "The Blind Side."

Monday, November 30, 2009

Little People, Big Problems???

Little People, Big World has always been one of TLC's best quality offerings on its lineup, despite not getting the same kind of blockbuster ratings or tabloid fodder as Jon and Kate. It's the story of a family of two little people parents raising one little person child and three normal sized children. Their story is inspiring, as well as entertaining. The entire family has some fascinating personalities.

Even though the premise of Little People is awfully similar to Jon and Kate, it has never gotten the kind of criticism the Gosselins have, and here's why. The children are much older than the Gosselin little ones, and better able to make decisions about whether they want to be filmed, whether it's good for them, and so on. The youngest is almost 13, while the oldest two are adults at 19. Adults who are quite capable of getting up and walking out whenever they want. While Kate has always maintained her children "want" to do the show, they are simply far too young to make a decision that important and be trusted to make one that is in their best interest (Kids that age WANT to eat chocolate ice cream all day too, but adults decide for them it's not in their best interest). Moreover, the Roloffs have a job other than the show. They run a working farm for profit, as well as do speaking engagements and write books about being a little person, develop products for little people, and run a charity organization for little people, all things they always did even before the show. The kids are not their income, they are not moochers off the kids. Rumors don't fly around about affairs, or stealing money, or firing nannies, or being nasty to fans. We're guessing because there are very few incidents like this. And finally, Little People is much less heavily produced and contrived. Most episodes occur at home, most filming appears to occur in the pumpkin season of summer and fall, with long breaks in between filming (it's obvious when a kid has grown two inches and had a voice change between seasons), and not much has changed since we first met this family. Amy still wears jeans and a t-shirt, they still do the jobs they always did, and the kids still go to the same school, have the same friends, and do the same activities. They have not fallen victim to the celebrity lifestyle, and it's clear they don't see themselves as part of that.

But this season it's painfully noticeable that TLC is playing up the "problems" mom Amy and dad Matt are having in their marriage. Almost every episode involves some kind of awkward interview with Amy and Matt about the lack of communication in their marriage, the passive aggressive behavior, the fights, the disagreements. The kids taking sides. At one point a split was even discussed as a possibility. Matt and Amy have always been honest about their relationship, but never this often or this dramatically.

Are the little people really headed for divorce? Doubtful. These two may not be on the same page, but that's why they love each other. They are a classic opposites attract relationship. They compliment each other and they've survived a TV show together. And they are doting parents, giving their children a real-time gift in tolerance that couldn't be accomplished in a classroom. We're guessing they're in it for the long haul. So why does TLC keep asking them all these personal questions about the status of their relationship? Ratings? Piggy back off Jon and Kate?

TLC, we liked the Little People a lot more before all these awkward conversations about their personal problems. We don't need to know all these details that would better be discussed behind closed doors, without cameras. Get back to basics with this family. The other garbage is what you did with Jon and Kate, and it nearly destroyed their family.

Saturday, November 28, 2009

Gosselins owe a $2600 water bill

Joy Township Authority has placed a lien on the Elizabethtown home that Jon and Kate Gosselin used to live in and still own. The Gosselins reportedly owe $2,691.75 on their water bill, not including fees and interest.

Seems that two mortgages is starting to catch up with this family. With the show cancelled and income not as steady, will we see foreclosure signs in the near future?

The Andrew Ave. house, which has been on the market for about six months, was way overpriced at $325,000 in a down market. But a recent price drop puts it at $299,999, a more realistic number. (Most other houses in the neighborhood are under $250,000.)

Fans reportedly drive by the home on a daily basis. Perhaps it's not a desirable place to live when you have no privacy and that's why it won't move. Much like the Full House house, whose owners did not know it was famous until after they bought it.

Friday, November 27, 2009

Kate and the kids spend Thanksgiving with bodyguard

Which is worse, Jon lying about spending Thanksgiving with his grandma and going snowboarding instead, or Kate having her bodyguard and rumored lover over for the holiday???


Thursday, November 26, 2009

Hailey tweets that Jon is a liar--he is in Utah for Thanksgiving

On and off girlfriend Hailey apparently heard the news that Jon was telling people he was spending Thanksgiving with his grandmother. Hailey tweeted today, "LOL-U are in Utah snowboarding w/"friends"-lol-ur redic [ridiculous]."

These people can't even give it a rest on Thanksgiving. Appears Hailey is definitely the ex right now. Expect the flame wars/tweet wars to probably continue.

Happy Thanksgiving! Kids are with Kate today, Jon is with Grandma

Apparently Kate has the odd years. The kids will be with Kate on Thanksgiving this year, while Jon says he's spending the holiday with .... not Hailey, but Grandma!

Enjoy turkey and friends and family wherever you are today.

Tuesday, November 24, 2009

The Gosselin kids are watching....

"The choices you are making, I will also make."

One of our favorite Youtube videos.

Lohan tape recording--pedophiles, money and more

In Pennsyvlania, all parties must consent before tape recording a conversation. However this conversation very likely occured in New York, where Jon has spent a good deal of time lately. In New York, as in most states, it is legal to tape record a phone conversation without the other party's consent, as long as the person taping it is also a party to the conversation. Similarly, federal law allows just one party to consent, but allows states to make state laws to restrict it further, as did Pennsylvania.

Kate's delusional expectations may have been end of marriage

We were struck last night by the way Kate characterized her thoughts about separating from Jon.

Kate said: "To clarify, maybe I wanted roles to change and for
people to step up and stress loads to shift. [But] I never wanted him absent from that driver's seat."

Clearly when Kate is saying "people," she is referring passive aggressively to Jon. It's evident from this statement that Kate felt that in her marriage 1. she wanted Jon to take a different role 2. she wanted Jon to step up 3. she felt she was bearing the bulk of the stress in the marriage.

However enough episodes of Jon and Kate were made (more than 100) to demonstrate that Kate's perception of Jon's contribution to the marriage is quite skewed. Jon was the stay at home dad while she got to live her dream and go on tour. Did she not want him to stay at home? Did she want him to go to work and she stay at home? That simply doesn't add up.

As for Jon stepping up, until the divorce he was the one on Mommy duty, and both of them admitted it, with video evidence to boot. Meals, baths, bedtime, school, and more. What more was she expecting from him? Jon was never the type of husband to work all day then come home and drink a beer in his recliner, barking at everyone to leave him alone. He was one of the most hands on fathers we've ever seen.

Finally, Kate believes that she has more stress than him. Firstly, stress isn't an outside force that you are defenseless to. Stress comes from within, and how much or little you feel is controlled by your own body. Nonetheless Kate obviously feels her stress is more important, she feels it more deeply. She wanted Jon to share the stress. But perhaps laid-back Jon was feeling stress, he simply didn't express it the way Kate does. And why does Kate want someone she loves to feel stress? Shouldn't the goal of marriage be to reduce stress?

While Kate is not pure evil, it's hard to argue she hasn't demonstrated a very selfish personality. Her perceptions of her life come first and she has often been unwilling to put herself in the shoes of the other person. Jon in turn was passive aggressive, bottling up all his emotions until he snapped and went on a rampage of sex and partying, which wasn't healthy either.

With Kate's misconceptions of her world and Jon's refusal to speak up, this marriage was doomed.

Monday, November 23, 2009

Final episode of Jon and Kate airs, and it's evident both these parents have a lot of learning to do

The final episode of Jon and Kate aired Nov. 23rd, with a mixture of separate interviews with mostly Kate and a little Jon, a few outings with the children, and some brief clips scattered throughout of cute moments from the past (the only redeeming quality).

Jon took the opportunity to say he had made mistakes and to describe how he felt when he first separated with Kate, like he was "free." Ouch. He said he gave up his 20's to having children, and he was trying to get back that time. But now, he claims, he's moving on from that.

Kate used most of her time to continue to berate and belittle Jon, while simultaneously assuring us that she does not berate and belittle the children's father. She accused Jon of making a lemonade stand with the kids for publicity, waxed over how much she worries about the kids being alone with him since he's "never" alone with them (even though on the show he's been shown in charge of them dozens of times over the years), criticized and belittled his relationships, and bemoaned the loss of the show as premature (a show which has been going on more than four years). Not to be outdone, TLC was careful to show footage of the children acting up when they were with Jon, Mady telling him she has more fun with Mommy, and in response Jon raising his voice at them and sending the twins to their rooms, clever editing to make it seem like the kids were being punished for missing Mommy.

Kate says she won't talk badly about Jon (even though she's been caught on camera doing so time and time again in front of the children), because the children love their father. Well, that's only part of it, Kate. Another big reason it is so damaging to disparage the children's father in front of them is because of the psychological effect it has on their little minds. Children their age are old enough to comprehend that half of them came from Mommy, and half from Daddy. Hence, lots of children, when they hear over and over how much Mommy can't stand Daddy and what a screw up he is, tend to internalize it and reflect it back on themselves. "Wait a minute," a child thinks. "If Daddy is so terrible, and I am half of Daddy, half of me must be terrible, too. Maybe Mommy thinks half of me is as big of a screw up as him. Maybe all of me is!" It goes so much more deeper than simply criticizing someone the children love, and we hope Kate will understand this sooner rather than later.

Worst of all was the implication that Jon took the show away because he does not want Kate and the children to have fun experiences, does not want Kate to be able to stay home, and wants them to never have money again. No opportunity was given to Jon to explain why he chose to turn off the cameras, and no one suggested that perhaps the filming and attention might not be in their best interest and that's why the cameras were shut off, while ironically hoards of paparazzi were shown lingering around the outings throughout the episode.

Kate said she mourns the loss of the show because 1. they can't travel anymore and have experiences 2. she got to stay home because of the show and be with the kids and 3. it was too soon to end. To this we say, 1. Kids don't want to travel, they just want to be with YOU wherever you are, 2. Kate was out of town more than she ever would have been in almost any other profession except a flight attendant, and her schedule made public proves it and 3. the sextuplets have spent their entire lives in front of the cameras, nothing was premature about this. If anything, it was long overdue.

Clearly, Kate has a lot of anger and resentment still boiling inside her, which is to be expected during a divorce. TLC could have served her best during this difficult time by stepping back and not giving her any interviews while she is going through it. Instead she was given a free platform to spread so much negativity about Jon and the divorce we can't imagine she won't regret it all in the near future, nor can we see this being all that helpful to her court case. Both Kate and Jon (Kate for her vile words, Jon for his immature actions) have a lot of learning to do when it comes to how damaging their words and actions are to their children. They both could benefit from an intensive child development class, as well as individual and conjoint counseling with their children. They both need to stay at home, put romance on hold, and focus on giving their kids normalcy.

We wish the children the best despite their parents. They have an uphill battle ahead of them. We can breathe a sigh of relief that at least they will no longer have to climb that mountain with all of us watching.

News of divorce being worked out prompts attorney to file for his fees

Jon's former attorney filed with the court to claim $43,000 in fees owed to him by Jon. Jon had previously agreed to pay him from the assets he gets out of the divorce.

This isn't that surprising or unusual to see a filing like this when news comes that the divorce is wrapping up. Routine stuff in a high-stakes divorce. His attorney wants to make sure he gets paid before Jon takes his money and runs. Had the divorce dragged out a lot longer he probably would have been slower to file this motion.

Sunday, November 22, 2009

As final episode airs, an open letter to the Gosselin children

We are so relieved to be able to say this: The final episode of Jon and Kate Plus 8 airs Monday, November 23, 2009, on TLC.

Dear Mady, Cara, Alexis, Joel, Colin, Hannah, Leah and Aaden,

When your grandparents were just your age, a world phenomenon that was the Dionne Quintuplets was born. They weren't born in some remote, third world country, with little idea for basic human rights, education, normalcy and privacy. Indeed, they were born in Canada, just a few hours north of our border. North Americans flocked in droves to see their circus act.

But in the decades that followed, we began to realize the errors and mistakes that were made during their upbringing. The girls themselves became adults and were able to speak up and tell us where we went wrong. And as multiples became more and more popular in recent years, most parents realized how important it was to keep their little ones' lives as normal as possible, to not let what happened to the Dionnes happen to their multiples.

But in 2004, you came into the world, and something was different. For some reason, people forgot the Dionnes. Cameras were turned on, a circus act was reborn, and your lives were forever changed. We can't begin to pin down everyone who is responsible for what was done to you, which unfortunately, begins with your parents. But it also certainly includes a little cable network called TLC, a parent company called Discovery, and every person in your life who did not speak up about what was happening and help protect you. Sadly, those who did speak up were often cut out of your lives, and we hope as you grow older they will be permitted to be reintroduced to you.

But we want you to know that there were thousands who gathered on the Internet to speak up. There were thousands who said, "this is not right." We posted our outrage all over the Net. We e-mailed, called, and wrote to TLC. Some people even tried to communicate with your own parents, friends, and family. We have been trying to stop this for a long time, Gosselin children. We have tried to change things for you, to make this better for you. We are so sorry we couldn't have done more. We are so sorry this happened to you.

You are permanently the "Plus 8" and you must live with that. You can't change that, but you can change other things. Surround yourself with people who have your best interests at heart. Surround yourself with people who want to give you a normal life, who value and respect you. Surround yourself with people who love you for who you are, and not for your 15 minutes of fame and what little money may be left from that. We hope those who wronged you will someday understand what they did and make amends to you, and that you are able to repair broken relationships and broken trust. We wish you all the best in your relationship with your parents, and we hope you will seek out professional help as needed to assist you in coping with what was done to you by those you trusted the most. Do not be ashamed to get help. Do not be afraid to say "no" to those who continue to seek to harm you. And know that there were people out here who have wanted all the best and more for you since the moment we met you, and who will also forever remember the atrocities that happened the first several years of your lives.

We'd like to say this will never happen again. Perhaps know that some good has come of this. You have provided another hard lesson in what happens when you exploit a child's privacy for a dollar. In 1998, the Dionnes settled with the Canadian government for $28 million. Sadly, however, no amount of money can allow you to reclaim a childhood lost.

We wish you wonderful lives, and we hope we never see you faces on our TV's ever again. You deserve so much better.

Those who Cared

Saturday, November 21, 2009

Jon and Kate agree on divorce terms with arbitrator

In a surprising turn of events, Radar online is reporting that Jon and Kate have actually reached agreement on several of the issues pertaining to the divorce and that the arbitrator expects to be able to finalize everything by the end of the year. The terms of the divorce are confidential, but various sources are reporting the children will have primary residence with Kate. That just means they live with Kate more than 50% of the time, with Jon enjoying visitation.

Jon and Kate were described as icey toward each other, but willing to work things out.

Don't confuse the divorce with Jon and TLC's lawsuit. There is still a moratorium on filming the children that the divorce agreement cannot try to get around. Filming issues will have to be decided via the other breach of contract case first.

Contracts 101

Some people have asked, if the fee-sharing contract Jon had with Hailey and Michael Lohan wasn't signed, it wasn't a contract, right? Well, maybe.

Basic contract law says that contracts must have:

1. an offer--I tell you I will give you $100 if you paint my house
2. acceptance--"I accept!" the job to paint my house
3. consideration--something you are getting for the job...something has to change hands and people's positions have to change. You can't contract for many things because there is no consideration. In this case, the consideration is $100. In the case of the fee-sharing, consideration may be an issue as well.

Now we have a contract to paint my house!

As you can see, there is no requirement there be a signature on the dotted line. But, a signature on the dotted line is one way to show you accepted the offer. And with the fee-sharing agreement, we have absolutely no evidence Jon's "offer" to share his fees was ever "accepted" by anyone.

If there's no acceptance, there's no contract. If there's no contract, your lawsuit is sunk.

The fee sharing agreement Jon had .... and why it probably doesn't matter

This is NOT the smoking gun....

Here is the alleged fee sharing agreement that Jon allegedly made to share earnings with Hailey and Michael Lohan.

The internet is falling for TLC's spin that Jon's secret contract somehow proves their case or is incredibly damaging. To this we ask, how so?

The lawsuit between TLC and Jon can be broken down very simply. TLC is saying Jon had an exclusive deal with them and had no right to go out and make money elsewhere. Jon isn't saying he didn't do that....there is a ton of proof he's made money through other gigs, just check the tabloids over the past several months when he did stints in Vegas, was brokering deals with Ed Hardy, etc.....Instead, Jon is saying the TLC contract was never valid in the first place, and therefore, he could do what he wants. He has said quite clearly, he has a right to go out and make a living and TLC has no right to stop him. He never said he has sat around on his hands doing nothing and hasn't breached. He's saying yes I breached, but I breached something invalid, therefore, there is no breach.

Jon isn't saying he didn't violate the terms of the contract! He is saying the contract was a bad one, and is invalid. Do you see why this Hailey-Lohan contract doesn't matter? It's no more damaging than the photos of Jon making money in Vegas on a publicity gig.

Assuming this fee-sharing agreement is even a valid contract (we have no idea if the parties ever even agreed to this or if it was simply something drawn up as a proposal--crucial parts of it are not filled in, there are no signatures, dates, etc. At best this is a rough draft), TLC still has to get over the hurdle of whether their own contract with Jon was even valid. If TLC's contract with Jon is found to be invalid, which it might very well be for several reasons we've discussed at length before, Jon can't possibly be in violation of it. You can't violate an invalid contract.

At best, this document is simply another piece of information about what was going on in the giant puzzle that is the saga of Jon and Kate. On its face, it neither proves or disproves anything.

War of the roses

Jon brought flowers to his mandatory arbitration meeting with Kate today to try to work out the divorce. The meeting is likely to be nothing more than a meet and greet required by the court, with few of the many complicated divorce issues actually being resolved.

Friday, November 20, 2009

TLC says Kate will have her own show in 2010

TLC has confirmed they plan to have a new show staring Kate to air in the Spring of 2010. Kate Plus 8 has been officially scrapped.

As long as the kids aren't filmed, we don't care what Kate "14 1/2 minutes" Gosselin does with her time left in the spotlight.

Thursday, November 19, 2009

Former nanny accuses Kate of drinking, beating the kids

A former nanny of Kate's has told Enquirer that Kate drank a bottle of wine at the end of a hard day, several days a week. She also says she witnessed Kate beating one of the children with a large plastic mixing spoon.

The nanny reportedly worked for Kate for six months, quitting in the summer of 2008.

Wednesday, November 18, 2009

Jon's former assistant prepares to sue him for breach of contract

Seems the family may not be able to move on any time soon.

Kate Major, former reporter and girl toy, has hired an attorney for a possible breach of contract suit against Jon. This time the dispute is over a hand written contract for assistant work, with vague terms of payment ("a percentage of accounts for payments based on involvement" say...WHA???) and full of various conditions of confidentiality, including gag orders on their relationship.

Our favorite attorney, Abraham Lincoln, once said, "Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever you can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often a real loser - in fees, expenses, and waste of time."

Monday, November 16, 2009

TLC stoops to a new low and allows Kate to trash Jon on remaining episodes

While reasonable minds might disagree, we do not intend to be a Kate hate blog, and we want to make it clear that we are not coming down too hard on Kate for being hard on Jon. We don't approve of either of them saying anything negative of the other, but very few divorcing couples manage to make it through this experience without expressing some kind of frustration at the other.

We are quite angry, however, at TLC. For participating in this garbage. Jon and Kate's divorce is none of TLC's business and they have no right to take sides. But in previews of tonight's new episode, they've shown the complete scumbags that they are by providing an open forum for Kate to trash the children's father.
Like we said, during a divorce moms and dads say bad things about each other. It happens. You're upset, you're on edge, you're going through something terrible. But for TLC to allow Kate to have an open forum to tell millions how she feels about Jon, and then to preserve it on film for eternity, is just plain nasty, and certainly not in the children's best interest. If TLC thinks the children will never hear what Mommy said about Daddy, they're living in a fantasy world. The children may be sheltered, but they don't live in a bubble.

Among other things, Kate apparently accuses Jon of always being on his cell phone making personal calls when he's supposed to be spending time with the kids. Kate might want to take a hard look at her own habits. Because in just the few dozen paparazzi photos we quickly
browsed, we found Kate quite attached at the palm to her own hot pink iPhone. Another reason why it's not a good idea to run your mouth when there are millions of fact checkers out there.

Sunday, November 15, 2009

Thought for the evening....

Kate told Natalie Morales during her interview last week, "I'm awake in the middle of the night thinking, 'Am I making the best decisions?'"

Kate? If you're staying awake at night with that much anxiety about your choices, chances are you're not making good ones ....

Saturday, November 14, 2009

Jon attends Victorino wedding in Hawaii

Jon has returned to Hawaii, without Kate.

Jon arrived yesterday in Hawaii, looking tan and heavier (check out the double chin), to attend the wedding of Phillies slugger Shane Victorino. Victorino made a cameo in an episode of Jon and Kate Plus 8 when Jon took the kids to a baseball game. Apparently the two became friends.

Thursday, November 12, 2009

Summary of Jon's attorney's response to TLC

Court documents can be found here:

Some highlights, broken down as we see them. Basically the nutshell summary is TLC has to prove a number of things to get an injunction, and Jon asserts they have not proven the required elements:

1. Jon contends TLC is not entitled to an injunction because the contract is unenforceable as a matter of "public policy." Basically whenever an attorney uses the "public policy" argument it means it's generally unfair and against what we want to promote as a society. Here, they say it is against public policy because:
a. the children weren't paid
b. the children did not have permits
c. other actions that violated child labor laws

2. Jon contends the contract is "unconscionable," or basically grossly unfair and therefore unenforceable, because he and Kate were not represented by an attorney and the contract was one-sided in favor of TLC.

3. Jon asserts TLC's harm is not irreparable, or unable to be made right, because they can put a dollar amount on what Jon made post-show and can be appropriately compensated for the breach.

4. Granting of TLC's injunction will hurt Jon more than it would hurt TLC to deny their claim.

5. Jon's lawyers describe Jon's contract with TLC as "indentured servitude."

6. Jon asserts it is a contract for personal services and cannot be enforced by injunction

Tuesday, November 10, 2009

Jon countersues TLC for $5 million

As we asked a few days ago, "who will step up and counter-sue TLC?"

About time.

We are awaiting details of his suit.

Monday, November 9, 2009

Jon slammed for putting the kids on an ATV

U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission says it's really dangerous.

We also remember Kate going without a helmet on a moped and ATV.....

Thursday, November 5, 2009

TLC, have you no shame? Also look into the concept of attorney-client privilege

TLC, leave the father of the Gosselin children alone and let this family move on

Jon isn't the most ridiculous party in this divorce, nor is Kate. It's now TLC. If there was any doubt in anyone's mind that they don't care about the kids, this should confirm it.

TLC has deposed Jon's attorneys to try to elicit information for their breach of contract suit, as well as Jon's girlfriend/ex-girlfriend Hailey, and douche-pal Michael Lohen.

TLC has apparently never heard of the attorney-client privilege, which extends even AFTER you cease to represent a client, even after their death. It is, with few exceptions, forever, and with few exceptions, one of the most protected privileges in existence in the American legal system. The first thing any halfway decent attorney would do, and in fact is obligated to do by almost every state Bar and the Code of Ethics, is assert the attorney-client privilege and refuse to answer any questions that ask him or her to reveal confidential communications with Jon. A judge will then have to decide if it is in the interest of justice to require them to reveal information. No, you do not have to waive this, only in extreme criminal cases are you required to kiss and tell, such as disclosing information that you know someone is about to be killed (believe it or not, no law says a lawyer even has to disclose the location of a body if they are told).

While we certainly do not condone Jon's actions, it's simply not in the children's best interest for TLC to drag a messy lawsuit out against their father. Regardless of his behavior, he is still their father. They love him and it is incomprehensible to us TLC would drag a parent of those children through the mud, or anyone they love. What exactly are they seeking to accomplish? Justice? Against a nobody like Jon? Who cares! The only thing we can think of is money. But didn't they suck enough out of this family? They really need more?

This family made TLC more money than they could have ever dreamed of before. They brought more goodwill to a fledgling little cable network than their wildest imaginations. But this was not a drama or a comedy, it was a real family, and TLC was naive to think the gravy train would continue forever. Families evolve, circumstances change, and it was only a matter of time before someone stepped up and said "okay, cut. Enough." That someone happened to be Jon, and regardless of his motives, to get back at him for trying to get his own children, who are in his custody and control, away from the cameras, is really without any foresight and compassion. It does not matter how much in the wrong TLC believes Jon is. The bottom line is, to sue him is to sue the provider and protector of the children. To bring him down is to bring the children's father down. TLC refuses to realize or acknowledge how damaging this lawsuit is for the children. It directly affects them, because it is their father. If anyone has ever been involved in any kind of suit, without question the suit affects the entire family. Creates anxiety and tension for the entire family. The children are going through enough watching the parents they love split. Leave them in peace.

If anyone should be sued, it should be TLC. For contributing to the desecration and mutilation of eight innocent children's childhoods. Who will step up and counter-sue TLC? Unfortunately there are not a lot of laws in existence that would bring TLC to full justice for what they did to those kids. Not Earthly ones, anyway.

Monday, November 2, 2009

Jon and Hailey reportedly split

Just a few days after Hailey accused Jon of being emotionally abusive (but she still loves him), reports have circulated the couple has split.

Then Jon confirmed publically to Rabbi Shmuley Boteach that the couple decided to "slow things down."

Nana Janet, 72, dies

Nana Janet, the faithful laundry-folder and babysitter who knew each of the sextuplets as individuals until she was mysteriously cut from the show, has died. She was 72.

Nana Janet was featured on several older episodes of Jon and Kate as the family helper, until she disappeared from the show never to be spoken of again, following to the black hole such staples as Aunt Jodi, Uncle Kevin, Beth, and others. Viewers have long speculated that the Gosselins did not want to pay anyone else on the show and that's why people kept disappearing, and Aunt Jodi at one point has cooroborated that rumor.

Nana Janet was also infamously poked fun of by Kate for riding a small pony at the children's third birthday party.

For those who insist Nana Janet moved to Tennessee, that is inaccurate. The episode featuring a helper who moved to Tennessee was identified as Miss Beverly.

Friday, October 30, 2009

John and Ken show compare the Gosselins to L.A.'s mayor

Popular Los Angeles talk show hosts John Kobylt and Ken Chiampou on "The John and Ken Show" brought up the Gosselins and their quest for fame this afternoon. In talking about the mayor of Los Angeles and the mayor of San Francisco and their political aspirations, they said....

John: [L.A. Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom are] just camera whores. They don't do anything. They wake up every morning and they need to have their ego fed, they need people pay attention to them because they've got some kind of personality disorder that demands it. You know how many people go through their lives not demanding attention? And they have happy lives, they have accomplished lives. But they don't need strangers constantly looking at them, applauding them, being in awe of them. That's why a lot of these people who run for office, they're sick, they're psychologically ill. They're doing it, they're like these reality show contestants. Villaraigosa and Newsom are just like the Gosselin couple on Jon and Kate Plus 8, or Octomom, or uh....

Ken: The Heenes!

John: The Heenes. That's what it is. It's the same reality show, desperate for attention mentality. Look at me!

Their podcast can be downloaded here with their comments coming at the beginning of the show:

Thank you Jon and Ken as usual for your insight.