Monday, August 23, 2010

Jon's girlfriend Ellen is following our Blog

Ellen tweeted today that she is following this blog.

"Read over some things on your site. Appreciate the support," Ellen tweeted.

Whatever Ellen and Jon can do to get these kids off TV and back to living a more normal life, this Blog supports. And to Ellen, of particular help may be the sidebar. Check out "Evidence of the 8's exploitation."

http://twitter.com/ellen_ross1

83 sediments (sic) from readers:

Denise said...

As frustrated as I get with Jon, I still think he was 10 times the parent that Kate is.
The kids seem comfortable with Ellen. She is taking on a daunting task!

AuntieAnn said...

I'm surprised the long arm of TLC's law hasn't found a way to reach out and stifle Ellen yet. It would be interesting to know if she thinks the G8 are being exploited.

Carys said...

Finally! Jon has a girlfriend with common sense. She seems like a keeper, Jon. Don't screw it up.

Now if only he would get a normal job ( not at a bar...ugh I hope he cancels that for the sake of his kids ), in no time he will far far far eclispe Kate in the parenting department.

Jon needs to be willing and ready to live in a camper if he has to if it means rescuing his children from Kate and TLC. Allowing them to film so he can avoid a lawsuit and have a nice apartment isn't worth what's being done to those babies.

( Christmas gift ideas for Jon: collared shirts. Someone else mentioned this and it is sorely needed. )

MickeyMcKean said...

Welcome Ellen. You would actually know better than any of us that what we are fighting for - To Save The 8 - is well worth our effort.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Thank you Ellen. And welcome :o)

Lauren said...

Hi Ellen! :o)

prairiemary said...

Welcome,Ellen! You sure do seem alot more mature,alot more nuturing,alot kinder, have more common sense, and dressed properly as a role model for those 5 girl.I hope you never be-little their daddy in front of them,nor slap his face,nor try to regulate his breathing.If you stay with Jon,I hope you do none of the things that kate did,and do it all the opposite of her.

Troy Chula Vista said...

Thats great that she follow this blog. PLEASE don't go ROL if you have a thin skin Ellen. They are so very immature and without a clue as to real support. They bash people without ever showing any reason why they think Kate is the greatest.

JudyK said...

Hi Ellen! You seem like a really nice girl, and you and Jon are, IMO, the only chance those kids have for some emotional support, encouragement, and love.

Troy Chula Vista said...

Ellen, if you are following this blog, why don't you ask jon to give some insight on why he seems to turn the other cheek regarding filming his kids all summer? Then post that insight on this blog.

We are mature here, if he tells you it's because he can't stop it then we have to accept that. at least you won't get any name calling or disrepect here. Just give us a little more than "he can't stop it" :) Did you have to sign a ND form? Why can't he pickup the kids on the property? Is kate really threatened by your kind and gentle appearance and how you treat the kids?

GKWay said...

I could be looking through rose coloured glasses (hope not) but I really believe that Jon has his hands tied with TLC, his ex-wife and who knows what other legal issues there are? He knows that he can't get out of his child support payments and I don't think he wants to. At the end of the day, he needs to ensure that he is there to make sure the kids have a soft place to fall and although its not the best situation right now, at least they do have someplace to go(although only temporary).

Obviously, there could be better alternatives but as outsiders, we really have no idea the ins and outs of their custodial agreement. Maybe this is the only way Jon can see the kids and for the small amount of time he gets with them he wants to make it as fun and normal for them as possible.

I'm not a lawyer but I am a parent and if my husband and I ever divorced, I would hate to drag my kids through the court system just to get back at my spouse and have them feel that they needed to choose sides. Maybe Jon being more passive feels that the kids have been through enough as is right now without having their parents fighting in court on top of the media circus.

This is all just my honest opinion but for what its worth, I am happy the kids do get some 'down time' with their dad and a sense of normalcy in their lives.

Just because we don't see Jon fighting for the kids in the media doesn't mean he isn't doing something behind the scenes. Being there for them emotionally and spiritually when they need him should be kept private between him and his kids.

PatE said...

Welcome Ellen....stay strong! I suspect Jon is a very good man at heart. And clearly he loves his kids.

Remember....the internet is not the "physical" world. Stay in touch with the earth.

mommyinca said...

Welcome Ellen! You're in the trenches so to speak. You probably see and hear more than we do. Please stay strong....There are a lot of people supporting you and Jon. I don't agree with many of the things Jon has done but it's clear he does love his children. I hope you stick around :)

Westcoaster said...

Uh-oh - this is not going to sit well with the Queen - wonder what privileges she's going to yank next?

Hippie Chick said...

Welcome Ellen! We are here because 1) we really do want those kids to lead a normal, healthy life out of the spotlight. We would love to see them have fun in their childhood. And 2) We hate seeing what Kate's made them out to be. Show-pieces. You know more than anyone else what she puts those kids through. And Jon. We hope it ends soon for the sake of the kids. We don't watch the show, and yes, we snark on Kate often. But, hopefully, Kate will come off her high horse and realize her children are NOT workers to make HER life better. They are kids for Christ Sake. We don't care if Kate gets her own show, it will flop, but we don't care. Just let the children be children.

Judy said...

I just watched a video from INF over at Prezzi's. I actually watched it several times and each time I did , I caught something of interest.
First thing I noticed was a little white sports car parked beside Kates van. Same car that Tony was driving around town with Kate and her fake-crocheted hair blowing in the wind,during DWTS. Could it be Steve's little car ?
Second thing was Steve himself. He walked up to Kate, she seemed to ignore him, he called her name,then they met up at the front of the van. They spoke for a few minutes before she got in the van, with the kids screaming.
The final thing was possibly the most important. The crew said something to her, as she was getting in her van, and she said "thanks,see you next week".
I want to know how many hours a week these kids are "working".They have been filming all damn week and it looks like it will start all over again next week.
Where are the people in Pa. that are checking on these kids to make sure TLC and their famewhore mother is staying within the guidelines that the court ordered ?
Apparently the same thing that their father is doing to help them. Nothing!
I do hope that Ellen gives these children a hug when they need it,an extra scoop of ice cream,a goodnight kiss, and is not afaid to use the words,"I love you". The three most important words a child can hear in their childhood into their adulthood.
Words I'd bet that Katie Irene NEVER says to her children.

Sadie said...

I am so glad that she is following this blog and not ROL. Those people are so rude and crude as I mentioned over the weekend. I also hope the kids get a real break from filming this school year. I just have a feeling that their mother will have them filming as soon as they get home from school and over the weekend, she just can't seem to get with it.

Ellen Ross said...

wow guys!! thanks for the warm welcome lol!! i am sorry but i just had to comment - not on this, but about the commenters and people that read this site. you guys seem so supportive nad positive and thanks for the ROL advice - totally right you are!!! people are cruel. good to know not everyone out there is.
now lets see how long it takes for the media morons out there to find this comment and say OMG shes posting on blogs about this stuff - i didnt post any information - just a hello nad thank you to supporters and followers :o)

Kelly said...

Steve drives a Ford Explorer. That's not his car

Gatorgirl said...

Welcome Ellen! Just ignore the "haterz". We are all here looking out for the kids best interests. You seem to really enjoy being around the kids, and playing with them. Glad that they have a strong female role model in their lives. Don't let the media circus get to you.

Laura D. said...

Ellen I'd like to add my welcome also. The only advice I have to offer you is please don't be economical with the hugs. If ever a family needed them it's the Gosselins, Jon included. Take care :)

Irish0001 (formally posted as Hober) said...

Ellen is a sweetie. I have been following her on twitter and occasionally will tweet with her. I think she's a good influence to both Jon and the kids.

Carol

Bonafide Nutcase said...

Judy said - "Where are the people in Pa. that are checking on these kids to make sure TLC and their famewhore mother is staying within the guidelines that the court ordered?"
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What court ordered guidelines? Are you talking about having a teacher/advocate present during filming? That is one of the things Rep. Murt is pushing for. As of now it is not required.

My Dog Dimmie said...

@ Judy, Yes I did see the same video as you did and why did her boyfriend not get in the drivers seat? It was said that he drove them there. I also liked that when Jon picked up the kids that afternoon after they were filming(working) that Ms Wanna B a Star changed from her Hooker outfit into another outfit, except the dress is so much better. Seems to me that she has more free time than any other mother I know, never mind one with 8 kids. What ever happened to " they will only be filming a couple times and it will be specials?

My Dog Dimmie said...

@ Ellen, I hope this doesn't get to the media, its the only site that I can vent about the Queen Bee and not get lashed at. The people here are real nice and seem sensible.

Anonymous said...

Ellen,

Please remind Jon of Paul Peterson's offer of help. It is not too late.

Vicki

NancyB said...

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Kitty is taking one for the team!!

Ill do the dirty work - but its hard. (I wanted to do this for myself but someone wanted to know about the advertisers. I am a Child Advocate with CASA so, Its just not in me to watch for pleasure). But I already feel sick and pukey, so....So far:

Taco Bell - New Meal Deal
ABC Family - Secret Life of the American Teenager
Chase Credit Cards (Blue Print)
Kleenex - (New) Hand Towels
Nexxus (Hair Products)
High Fructose Corn Syrup (Corn Refiners Association)

6/06/2010 5:26 PM
Blogger Kitty The Dog's Blog said...

Disney - Alice in Wonderland DVD
Cisco - Valet
Hefty - Unscented Odor Block trashbags
Weight Watchers Online
Home Goods
University of Phoenix
(Local - San Antonio) Cavender Buick/GMC
ABC Family - (New Show) Pretty Little Liars
National Assoc. of Realtors
Samsung - 4 Door Refrigerator
Red Baron - Pizza by the Slice
DisneyWorld - Dining Plan
Ford F-150
AT&T – Mobile
INTEL
Playtex - 18 hour bras
Toyota Camry/Corolla
Road Runner International Oneprice
6/06/2010 6:01 PM

GKWay said...

Welcome Ellen! Sorry Admin if this is not the right thread but I found this article and although I'd love to start popping open the champagne and do the happy dance, I know Khate will be doing something crazy to ensure she stays in the spotlight...hence the weekly show of K+8?

http://www.metrowny.com/blogs/archives/103-Are_Kate_Gosselin__Jon_Gosselin_relevant_anymore_Kate_Gosselins_carrer_over.html

NancyB said...

Judy - I watched this video several times as well. I was disgusted when the kids are calling out, screaming to her and she IGNORES them and slams the van's sliding door closed. Oh My Gosh!! No windows open , car not running so no AC. Judy did I observe that part the same as you did? She actually is treating her children as if they were inanimate objects - things. I felt sick seeing it go down. The crew leisurely discussing lunch, BLAH BLAH BLAH and the kids trapped in the hot van.

Troy Chula Vista said...

OK. Hi Ellen. Can you at least tell us what was up with the towels over the head? Was it all in fun or really hiding from Pap(s) as speculated all over the net?

22Starz said...

Ellen...be sure your ready for whats sure to come.TLC had/has no problems with ripping Jon apart.Every part of your life is going to become public.

I believe Jon is the better parent,he see's them as more than just dollar signs.They need him more than ever now.They spent the whole summer working so kate can live a life she was never ment to have.Jon needs a partner...not a ruler.Those kids need to be just kids...and know that they are loved for being just that..kids!
Jon...be with your kids as much as you can.Watching movies,swimming in the pool,going for walks,simple things are what memories are made of.Stress free memories are what the kids are going to remember.

JerseyGirl24 said...

It's only going to take a few minutes for them to latch onto your comment here. Stay strong, and don't let ANY of this eat away at your relationship or at you!

wayward said...

Welcome Ellen!

Your warm, down to earth personality seems to be good for Jon. You're brave for taking on his almost full baseball team! In the photos with you and the children, it looks as if they took to you right away and you look so comfortable with them. Bless you and give them as many snuggles as they can stand when you have them!

As I see it said...

Oh, Ellen, be careful with this. You just can't count on something you post being received in the spirit it was meant.
Good luck, and have fun with the kids - god knows they need some down time and play time.

Mary said...

Welcome, Ellen. You seem like a down-to-earth, reasonable person. Please help Jon to be strong for his kids and do the right things. They are all so precious. Good luck!

Ashley24 said...

It's nice to know Jon found such nice woman to be with...and it seems like the kids like her alot too. Those children on ROL need their computers taken away.

Seeing Clearly said...

Ellen- there are several sites that support you guys. Look for the good ones and ignore the rest.

Betsy said...

If she is filming every week, what are the hours that allow these children to work? I think I read somewhere that they can film from 7am to 8 pm. The kids leave for the bus earlier than that so what was TLC doing there last year on the kids first day of school? PA did make that time regulation, didn't they?

Tammy said...

http://www.metrowny.com/blogs/archives/103-Are_...
Kate 15 minute may be up read the link.

French Canadian said...

Kate Gosselin's NYC Road Trip with Steve Neild

http://www.gossipcenter.com/kate-gosselin/kate-gosselins-nyc-road-trip-steve-neild-402822

French Canadian said...

I wonder if Cris was is the limo with Kate and Steve...

Starz22 said...

Ellen,just a warning...Tlc and kate are like rabid animals when they think someone is messing with thier meal-tickets.Watch your P's and Q's.Read Jons contract well.Other than that...have fun with the kids and make some non-working memories!

mama san said...

just in my email box: http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/dr-lillian-glass-tells-the-truth-and-never-lies-about-what-she-sees-including-kate-gosselin-and-bodyguard%E2%80%99s-body-language/

mama mia said...

Desperado Kate is flashing her boobs again. Leaning out of a car in her recycled hooker blue halter top, denim skirt and heels, she and Stevie are making a coffee run on their way to NY. Look for that donut shop to get mentioned in her show. All she needs is more black roots showing through her fried blonde tresses to complete the ensemble. I can almost hear her gum smacking from here.

Kelly said...

Welcome Ellen but at the risk of offending some here, I'll be forthright and state the following. This is not a Kate hating blog nor a Jon hating blog. I'm here on this ONE blog because it's more neutral than most of the others What I won't do is blog about Jon's virtues as I don't really see any at this point.

He's the father of these 8 kids and from all observations, he's condoning this servitude as much as Kate by his passive attitude. He's as guilty as his ex and his kids are the ones paying the price.

The childish way they pick up and drop off the kids with cameras flashing is as damaging to those children as the divorce, in and of itself. Unlike previous posts, I'm not going to change colors and turn this into a praise Jon fest. I detest what he has allowed to transpire all these years up to this day as much as I detest what Kate continues to do in his absence.

If Jon cared more for those children as he does for himself, he would have truly stood his ground, kept them off of television and taken whatever lumps came his way with the TLC suit and any others thereafter. He didn't. He obviously caved as the kids are back on television, he's still not gainfully employed and he's allowing his ex to put those children in front of any and every camera as he does as well.

I'm a divorced father of 3 kids and I'd walk the plank to protect them at any cost. Their needs have always and will always come first. You hold their hands for such a short time but you hold their hearts forever. I won't implore you to say or do anything to this person you find some postive traits. I will voice to you my concern as well as hundreds of thousands of other peoples concerns about the lack of protection and concern that Jon and Kate have exhibited towards 8 little lives that look to no one else but their parents.

With that said, I'll step off my soapbox and continue to snark on the charade by his ex, the exploitation of the children and the lack of dispatch that Jon shows in trying to stop this abuse.
Other than that being said, Welcome

Lorrie said...

Ellen,

So glad to read that there seems to be an advocate for those precious kids. Hope you take good care of them -- God knows their mother won't. I too think Jon is a good man at heart, and hope he does right by his children.

Lorrie said...

p.s. Ellen, your blog sounds like a great idea. Very brave of you --hope you don't get too many nut-cases commenting!

What's next? said...

Welcome Ellen! Glad you found us and hope you continue to join us. I believe you are a good influence on the children. They seem so relaxed and happy in the pictures I've seen when they visit you and Jon. Please continue to give them all the love and attention you can, they desperately need that.

AuntieAnn said...

I see from the Blogger profile Ellen started a blog today also. I hope she's able to shed a little light on the dark side of the story. Maybe Jon urged her to open up a blog. They (TLC) might have his hands tied, but they certainly can't shut everyone up. Or can they?

KateSteveandTLCSuck (fka other Suck Names;-) said...

Time for a new post Admin!
http://celebrity-gossip.net/kate-gosselin/kate-gosselins-nyc-road-trip-steve-neild-402610

Bodyguard my a$$, is right! Steve looks pissed, Kate looks busted.

PS-Hi Ellen.

AuntieAnn said...

In the INF video RatClaws looks like he's hiding in front of the van... Kind of had that 'cat that ate the canary' look on his face. Some bodyguard he is.

Kate looks satisfied with herself that she's got another 'hard' day of work under her belt as she slammed the door shut on her kids and mumbled something about them driving her nuts. Someone needs to remind her that her kids have been working harder than she ever will and without them there would be no big paycheck. Ungrateful bitch. Did she ever think she was driving them nuts?

Hot In PA said...

@ Betsy...

There were no work permits issued last year, and therefore TLC considered themselves exempt from following any guidelines. With permits, these are the rules that must be followed (check under regulated days and hours). The number of days, length of hours per day and week are different, depending if the child is enrolled in school or is on vacation:

http://www.wolfbaldwin.com/attorneys_lawyers/articles.asp?ArticleID=21&Page=minor_work_job_child_labor_law_PA_Pennsylvania.asp

Bonafide Nutcase said...

What's next? said... The kids leave for the bus earlier than that so what was TLC doing there last year on the kids first day of school? PA did make that time regulation, didn't they?
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There were no permits issued for last season's filming. TLC got a mere slap on the hand for not having them. I believe the permits that they have now allow for filming children from the ages of 7 to under 18, and they can film until 10 pm.

JUST SAYING AGAIN said...

When the children are around their mom they look so unhappy,and when they are around their dad they look so happy....Kate treats the kids like they are in boot camp,and Jon is so care free that the children can relax and be their self...

BerksPa said...

Ellen,
I'm not sure if you will read this, but I just wanted to tell you of the impression you are leaving on people who live in the same place as Jon.
I spoke at length with someone who rents there and they had seen you and Jon with the kids and said that they are so relaxed with you all and seem to have so much fun and conversation.
Thanks for being able to put up with all of this. The kids need some sort of normal in their lives and I'm glad you are sticking out through all the crap that gets thrown at you and Jon from the other side.
Fight the good fight...stay true to what is right. And keep those little ones safe.

bearswife said...

Welcome Ellen,
I just want to say that I sincerely hope that you continue to be a stable influence on Jon and that the two of you can affect some positive change in the kids lives.
Stay strong in the face of opposition!

Administrator said...

Don't assume Jon isn't doing anything to stop it. Also don't assume others, eh-hem, haven't gone up against Discovery and that Discovery has subsequently BACKED DOWN. The little man CAN go up against them and win.

I hate being cryptic but I have to. This blog is still up and running, don't assume Discovery doesn't hate that.

KateSteveandTLCSuck said...

Admin, you don't say. Wow.

Kelly said...

Admin,
Point well taken.

Tanya said...

Hi Ellen, its so good to see such a positive force in Jon's life. I always thought he was a good guy, he was just thrown for a loop when Kate asked for the divorce and went a little crazy for awhile. He's always been the better and more down to earth parent and I am so happy they have him in their lives for some well deserved normal time.

cathy518 said...

Ellen,
Nothing you could ever do for those Gosselin Children would be wasted. Godspeed to you and to Jon: the only loving parent those children have who has been cut from their lives by their horrible mother and TLC

Kelly said...

Give em Hell Admin and remember, If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything. TLC be damned.

Administrator said...

Kelly, I have.

The First Amendment is a wonderful thing. I knew law school would come in handy someday.

I don't take well to BULLIES.

Bodyguard my a$$ said...

Hi Ellen,

Well, I hated Kate the first time I heard her belittle Jon. I hated J&K+8 and I hate K+8 even more. But I always thought Jon, Kevin and Jodi were the only hope those kids had. Their mother is scary crazy, as you know.

That being said, do you realize how many people have been ripped out of those kids' lives and all the trauma and loss they've been through with the divorce? Do you have any experience with divorce and the pain these kids are in? Are you and Jon committed to each other, or are you going to be another transitory person they get close to, then lose? If you answer yes, that you're committed, then I'm afraid you're a little too young for what you're getting into. I don't think those kids should even know you yet. Absolutely, you seem to be a stabilizing figure in thos kids' lives, but what happens if those children form a deep attachment to you, and you and Jon don't make it? How much loss can those kids handle?

Sorry to be a wet blanket on this love-fest, but all I care about is the kids. If the kids have a bond with you, I hope you're in it for the long haul, because it's going to be an ugly ride with Khate involved. I don't see a happy ending. Please tread carefully. I pray for those kids.

Oh, and I totally called the Kate and Steve thing :)

Canuck said...

Shout out to Admin and Ellen. First of all, Ellen I'm really glad to know that you read here from time to time and that you and Jon are aware of our concerns and support. But I do agree...extreme caution would seem to be in order and I'd encourage you to be careful about what you reveal. You don't owe us a thing - it's enough for me to know that someone has an eye on those kids. Admin...I couldn't be more proud to be part of your blog - even if only as a reader most of the time. I love David and Goliath stories! Thank you for your time and diligence...

StoryLady said...

Hi Ellen!
Thank you. Just thank you.

Bonafide Nutcase said...

TLC tried to "persuade" Z on TV to stop writing about Kate several months ago. Apparently Discovery/TLC are slow learners.

Anonymous said...

Jon blocked on Twitter because I posted that I would not click on any of his silly links in order to further his credits (and or income).

I still think Jon was/is the better parent, regardless of his Twitter begging.

I welcome Ellen's common sense, it is much needed. We are fighting for the same cause.

wayward said...

Hey Admin, the First Amendment squashers at Discovery/TLC were busy last June 2009 when they sent a letter to the Admin of Blind Gossip. BGs pet name for J&K was Wonk and Spike Plus Gaggle, someone from "the inner circle" seemed to have loose lips .

Dear Wonk & Spike Plus Gaggle,

We know that you are reading this, as we received a lovely note from one of your representatives. How thoughtful of you to write!

We know that you are concerned that your friends may be leaking information to us before you are ready to profit off of it. However, we will neither confirm nor deny that any of the posts or comments on this site are about you, nor will we reveal our sources.

May we make a tiny little suggestion? If you don’t want people talking about you, kindly reconsider broadcasting your lives on TV.

Love, BG

Moose Mania said...

"Absolutely, you seem to be a stabilizing figure in thos kids' lives, but what happens if those children form a deep attachment to you, and you and Jon don't make it? How much loss can those kids handle?"
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What happens if they form a deep attachment to ANYONE in his life? There are no guarantees. Does this mean that Jon should not have a partner in his life? If a girlfriend is acceptable, then should that person never be introduced to the children? Exactly when is the right time for the woman in his life to meet the children? There are no guidelines in this situation. Break-ups can occur months or years after a couple becomes "committed." Things happen. This doesn't mean that the kids can never meet their father's girlfriend simply because they "might" separate at some point down the road.

"If you answer yes, that you're committed, then I'm afraid you're a little too young for what you're getting into."
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As far as I'm concerned, age doesn't enter into it. I've known 25-year-olds who were far more mature than a 50-something woman. Kate is yesterday; Ellen is today, and the kids are tomorrow. They need someone to say, "There's an idea...go for it, all the while giving them encouragement, and plenty of hugs. I don't see them getting that from their mother. That in itself is tragic.


"Oh, and I totally called the Kate and Steve thing :)"

I'm a "show me" person. I'll only believe it when I hear it from the two horses' mouths.

Be strong, Ellen said...

The Kate fans will try and get to you in every possible way, but you've got a great support system and I'm thrilled the kids have a blast with you - the Kate fans cannot STAND that.

Bodyguard my a$$ said...

Moose Mania, how nice that you think the kids can handle more loss. I happen to think they've had enough. And introducing your kids to your, (what 5th girlfriend?) in a year isn't smart and isn't good for the kids no matter how anyone glosses it over.

Any young woman who thinks she can take on 8 damaged kids, an immature, weak man, and a raving lunatic like Kate is naive. It's all nice and fairy-tale like, isn't it? And guess what? The kids lose again. How blaise we are about kids' getting their hearts ripped out over and over again. And there are no other kids who have experienced what these little kids have. Walk a mile in their shoes before saying another loss is no big deal.

Kate and Steve? OMG, propinquity. Anyone ever heard of it?

Moose Mania said...

Bodyguard my a$$ said...

Moose Mania, how nice that you think the kids can handle more loss.

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I never said that. Please knock off the snarky/condescending remarks. It's not only unbecoming, but it's one of those comments that Administrator mentions in her Rule 2 for posting.

The whole point of my post was to question when IS the right time to introduce a girlfriend. Next year? Five years from now? There are no guarantees in life, and in this case, there are no guidelines to follow. While this is not a unique situation, couples certainly don't face these questions every day.

Let's say Jon gets married on Valentine's Day. It doesn't matter to whom, but he gets married. When she was his girlfriend, Jon didn't introduce them. Once married, however, they come to know her, love her, and then, bam...the marriage is on the rocks and ends up in divorce like the last one. Should he not have introduced the kids to her at all, keeping her hidden because there was that remote chance that they wouldn't be together forever, and they'd have to go through the emotional upheaval of having to lose another person who had become such an important part of their lives?

The children appear happy when they are with Ellen and their father, and right now, I would think that after all they have been through, any happiness or joy in their lives would be beneficial, not detrimental. It would be interesting to get a mental health professional/child therapist's take on this because there are no easy answers.

"Walk a mile in their shoes before saying another loss is no big deal."

Where is this coming from? Is your computer showing words that mine isn't, because this was never said, nor implied, or in any way even remotely suggested?

Administrator said...

Some child development experts say hold off on introducing a girlfriend, others say you shoud do it sooner rather than later. They're split.

If you hold off you are giving the relationship time to be more stable and see if it's going to last before introducing Mommy 2.0 only to have her leave.

But if you wait too long some kids feel betrayed, like they weren't important enough to be included in Daddy's life, all of it which includes a girlfriend. Or that Daddy thinks they can't handle it. Introducing a girlfriend at the 11th hour can make them feel like their parent was hiding something from them and can make them question the trust they have in them.

If there was anyone Jon should have held off on introducing to the kids that should have been Kate. After all she didn't last. Oh, wait.

StoryLady said...

My first impression of Ellen was the photo at Jon's pool showing Mady talking intently to Ellen, with her hand on her shoulder.
Ellen was clearly listening to Mady, and cared about what she was saying,judging from Mady's body language.
I've never seen her look as though her own mother appreciated her, but I saw her look appreciated by Ellen.
Those kids need somebody now to listen to them. I'm grateful Ellen is there for them.

WeNeedYouNow said...

@A$$....

By your reasoning, then, Steve never should have been hired, because Kate has admitted that the kids formed a strong attachment to him, calling him "Uncle Steve." When TLC cuts Kate off, he's gone. Or, if rumors are true, he becomes her significant other, but when he's had enough of her, he's off and running, too.

There should be no nannies, no babysitters, either, because if they look at Kate the wrong way, they're fired. I would think that the children have formed strong attachments to them, too. Why should they have to deal with another loss? The answer would be simply to not hire them in the first place.

The kids should be home-schooled because they might become close to their teachers, only to have to move on to the next grade, or the teachers may have chosen to leave their position.

Heck, the children shouldn't be around any adult to whom they might become attached or with whom they form a close relationship. You never know when that person will be removed, or remove themselves from their lives.

@StoryLady: "Those kids need somebody now to listen to them. I'm grateful Ellen is there for them."

Yes. Now. Not next month, not next year. Now. When they need somebody the most. Before it's too late.

WeNeedYouNow said...

@A$$....

By your reasoning, then, Steve never should have been hired, because Kate has admitted that the kids formed a strong attachment to him, calling him "Uncle Steve." When TLC cuts Kate off, he's gone. Or, if rumors are true, he becomes her significant other, but when he's had enough of her, he's off and running, too.

There should be no nannies, no babysitters, either, because if they look at Kate the wrong way, they're fired. I would think that the children have formed strong attachments to them, too. Why should they have to deal with another loss? The answer would be simply to not hire them in the first place.

The kids should be home-schooled because they might become close to their teachers, only to have to move on to the next grade, or the teachers may have chosen to leave their position.

Heck, the children shouldn't be around any adult to whom they might become attached or with whom they form a close relationship. You never know when that person will be removed, or remove themselves from their lives.

@StoryLady: "Those kids need somebody now to listen to them. I'm grateful Ellen is there for them."

Yes. Now. Not next month, not next year. Now. When they need somebody the most. Before it's too late.

Be strong, Ellen said...

The Kate fans will try and get to you in every possible way, but you've got a great support system and I'm thrilled the kids have a blast with you - the Kate fans cannot STAND that.

Bodyguard my a$$ said...

Hi Ellen,

Well, I hated Kate the first time I heard her belittle Jon. I hated J&K+8 and I hate K+8 even more. But I always thought Jon, Kevin and Jodi were the only hope those kids had. Their mother is scary crazy, as you know.

That being said, do you realize how many people have been ripped out of those kids' lives and all the trauma and loss they've been through with the divorce? Do you have any experience with divorce and the pain these kids are in? Are you and Jon committed to each other, or are you going to be another transitory person they get close to, then lose? If you answer yes, that you're committed, then I'm afraid you're a little too young for what you're getting into. I don't think those kids should even know you yet. Absolutely, you seem to be a stabilizing figure in thos kids' lives, but what happens if those children form a deep attachment to you, and you and Jon don't make it? How much loss can those kids handle?

Sorry to be a wet blanket on this love-fest, but all I care about is the kids. If the kids have a bond with you, I hope you're in it for the long haul, because it's going to be an ugly ride with Khate involved. I don't see a happy ending. Please tread carefully. I pray for those kids.

Oh, and I totally called the Kate and Steve thing :)

Hippie Chick said...

Welcome Ellen! We are here because 1) we really do want those kids to lead a normal, healthy life out of the spotlight. We would love to see them have fun in their childhood. And 2) We hate seeing what Kate's made them out to be. Show-pieces. You know more than anyone else what she puts those kids through. And Jon. We hope it ends soon for the sake of the kids. We don't watch the show, and yes, we snark on Kate often. But, hopefully, Kate will come off her high horse and realize her children are NOT workers to make HER life better. They are kids for Christ Sake. We don't care if Kate gets her own show, it will flop, but we don't care. Just let the children be children.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kat said...

Thank you Ellen. And welcome :o)

Carys said...

Finally! Jon has a girlfriend with common sense. She seems like a keeper, Jon. Don't screw it up.

Now if only he would get a normal job ( not at a bar...ugh I hope he cancels that for the sake of his kids ), in no time he will far far far eclispe Kate in the parenting department.

Jon needs to be willing and ready to live in a camper if he has to if it means rescuing his children from Kate and TLC. Allowing them to film so he can avoid a lawsuit and have a nice apartment isn't worth what's being done to those babies.

( Christmas gift ideas for Jon: collared shirts. Someone else mentioned this and it is sorely needed. )

Starz22 said...

Ellen,just a warning...Tlc and kate are like rabid animals when they think someone is messing with thier meal-tickets.Watch your P's and Q's.Read Jons contract well.Other than that...have fun with the kids and make some non-working memories!

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