Tuesday, January 26, 2016

Discussion Thread: Kate Plus 8 "Kate's Advice"

Kate Plus 8

Kate's Advice10:00 PM on TLC, 1 hr 2 min 2016 TV-PG
Kate watches her younger self in clips from previous seasons and discusses her evolution as a mother and a person.

1515 sediments (sic) from readers:

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Carole said...

From the previous thread:

It just occurred to me that once that snow melts through all the floor boards it's going to make a wet, soppy mud pit below the deck. What a mess.

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The original patio with the picnic table and gas grill where they filmed cookouts, etc. are underneath the new deck. The new deck was built on top of the old patio's roof.

ncgirl said...

"While she bemoaned getting older and losing energy, she beamed with pride as she noticed how much more self-sufficient and strong her kids have gotten as they’ve aged along with her. “Maybe that’s the balance,” she mused."

Parenting by Kate, nagging and beating your children into self-sufficency

reader said...

ncgirl said...
Parenting by Kate, nagging and beating your children into self-sufficency.
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True dat

silimom said...

Wow. Things never change. Kate is just as "Kate" as she ever was. Deanna, I'm sure, is convinced she knows the whole story. However, from my own experience in a blended family, I think she's way off the mark.

When kids reach the tween/teen years, it's not uncommon for them to want to stay at one parent's house more than the other's. My stepchildren went through it when they were teens (and for the record, we had a very amicable relationship with my husband's ex and her second husband). There was no hate involved, more that either for social reasons (friends being closer etc.), the fact that they had certain things at one house and not the other, or that one house was closer to school so they could sleep in longer in the morning, certain houses were just more convenient.

As they moved into the teen years, we respected their choices. It wasn't that we didn't want to spend time with them or vice versa - we did and would spend time together - just that as they got older, they were able to have more of a say in where they spent the bulk of their time and we didn't feel the need as parents to impose a rigid schedule on them.

It's my impression based on what Jon has said in the past, that he is taking this road with them. In his case, I do hope even if he's not seeing all the kids at the same time, that he's seeing all of his kids at least once a month.

As for Christmas presents, I think it's more likely that Jon had gifts for them but kept them at his place, knowing Kate would likely throw them away if he sent them over with the kids who had visited him.

Math Girl said...

redbird said... 137

It was so weird when D and K were sitting on the interview couch and she said, Oh, this is the first time ever I have had someone sitting with me doing this? Is that what she said?

Didn't Jamie sit with her before?
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I seem to remember her sitting on the couch a lot of times with some man. Does anyone remember his name? Whatever happened to him?

AuntieAnn said...

I seem to remember her sitting on the couch a lot of times with some man. Does anyone remember his name? Whatever happened to him?

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I think his name was John, or Jonathon or something like that. He died a few years back.

reader said...

Anonymous 199
I can honestly imagine Milo doing the search, seriously.

Love the sense of humor on the veranda.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

AuntieAnn (#6), ah, yes, Jon. The loud breather.

I think it kills TFW that he's a functioning human being after she tried to destroy him. If she heard he was living in a cardboard box, I believe it would delight her. So she continues to punish him for not only surviving their divorce, but being a relatively happy dude after all he went through.

4rmine said...

I'm not sure if my post went through before, it was long. I'll put it in 2 parts.
Part (1):

Jon opened the door to Deanna with his interview. IMO he looked foolish. As a parent, if you have no idea why you aren't seeing your kids, it would seem wise that you find out. Jon said that they communicate through the court. I believe that if the situation was presented to the judge, that he/she would get an answer. It is their job to do what is in the best interest of the child. Steve Hardy didn't even follow up with Jon, by inquiring why he doesn't know, and what has he done to improve the situation.

It is human nature to come to the defense of people that you care about. I guess that is what Deanna felt that she was doing. I would have kept my mouth shut. It seems that Deanna is very good friends with Kate, and that she cares about the kids. Yes, I know some of you have a different opinion; however, I'm going off of what they say. People who work together can and do become very close friends. Sometimes closer than real family.

4rmine said...

Part (2):

I think Deanna was sharing what she sees happening. Not much more than was known or speculated. Kate previously said that some of the kids, by choice, didn't see Jon, and that it was better for some (or something like that). I think, perhaps this summer, Jon said that all is good when it comes to the custody arrangement. He was keeping the peace. If that is the case, why come on tv and complain about it. I don't see how that can improve the situation. If you have a custody order in place, then fight for your kids! Deanna mentioned that experts were involved. Whether the experts are the judge, lawyer, counselors, advocate/mediator, that is to be expected/hoped for in custody hearings. So, to me, it's not shocking that she said experts were involved. She did mention that only some of the kids received Christmas gifts, but she didn't say that the kids demanded gifts.

It's not fair to say that Deanna has no talent or taste. She has been in the business for a while, and she does have a decent portfolio, which implies that she has had contact with Jon.

Sad but true said...

Well, this is a first:

Kate GosselinVerified account ‏@Kateplusmy8 3m3 minutes ago
TONS of 👍🏽 emails after last nights #KatePlus8 !!
A HUGE THANKYOU 2 all of you 4 ur stories! ❤️
#MomsStickingTogether #LearningAsWeGo @TLC

Kate reading e-mails from the masses? Surely you jest! So, did TLC only forward her the nice ones? Or did anyone venture to send to her blog e-mail? I think this is horseshit, but I guess it gets her back in the conversation.

Sad but true said...

I bet they are already filming. Maybe trying to push out episodes that actually match the season we're in.

Alyssa Noss ‏@alyssssajuneee 50s50 seconds ago
awkward moment when I'm about to be famous bc @Kateplusmy8 is coming to my @Costco to film an episode & I'll be the cashier. 🙋🏽

Tucker's Mom said...

Alyssa Noss ‏@alyssssajuneee 7m7 minutes ago
awkward moment when I'm about to be famous bc @Kateplusmy8 is coming to my @Costco to film an episode & I'll be the cashier. 🙋🏽

Huh?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

If a stranger to this situation read Deanna's tweets last night, they'd think this divorce was a recent event. But it was 6 years ago, and these feelings of anger still seem so intense. Some therapy would benefit everyone involved.

And as we've said before, all this protection and defense of TFW only make Can Do Kate seem weak and ineffectual. She's a grown woman. Let her speak for herself.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

I hope Deanna had a good night. She panicked, for sure. Those tweets about saving screen shots sent her running!

"I think his name was John, or Jonathon or something like that. He died a few years back."

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Was he the one they kept in the freezer and they buried him in the recent episode? I heard he's sleeping with the fishes.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

When has there ever really been anything to film and yet there she is front and center on the tv screen. And she's laughing all the way to the bank and flipping the bird to haters and fans alike.

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Oh, absolutely. She will find something. If she's good at anything, it's sitting around and coming up with something to film, even if it's a rehashing of what's been done over and over again. She and Deanna could have a falling out, and cameras would be there to film the cat fight. Kate certainly as the claws for it.

Ingrid said...

...@Kateplusmy8 is coming to my @Costco to film an episode & I'll be the cashier.
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Oh boy another shopping with TLC's money episode.
I was trying to think today what her new episodes will be. (again)
1. shopping somewhere
2. trip to a beach or somewhere expensive
3. go to local amusement type place
4. remodel something (so-called unfinished basement?)
5. tups over the top birthday in May.
6. Kate's over the top birthday in April
7. twins over the top birthday in Oct.
8. rehash of old episodes
Lather rinse repeat

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

last birthdays in the past few years. So I don't know if they want a big birthday bash.

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If it means a big upscale party, perhaps filmed on a cruise or at a vacation spot with TLC giving them a car, you bet your bootie that they will be right there, front and center.

Localyocul said...

Costco how exciting more shopping! And how stupid ontaneous since they have the cashier pre picked

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

James -- her name is Deanna. Kate may call her Deena or Deen because they are so close, you know, but it's Deanna. Of course, after last night she may be called other names, but we won't talk about that.

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LOL, blowing! I imagine after last night, she will be called a lot of things on Twitter, and wouldn't object to Deen or Deena.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



Jon opened the door to Deanna with his interview. IMO


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I don't agree with that. I don't think the door should ever be open to a trusted friend speaking with the kids then sharing with the public what is happening.

I would agree the door is open to KATE if she would like to respond to Jon, or for that matter, TLC, since he did share some concerns he had about their actions.

This is Kate and Jon's divorce and really TLC's, but not Deanna's.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



The original patio with the picnic table and gas grill where they filmed cookouts, etc. are underneath the new deck. The new deck was built on top of the old patio's roof.


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Ah. Still the snow has to drain off somewhere, and I guess that will be around the old deck then. Again, what a mess.

Jillygee said...


Alyssa Noss ‏@alyssssajuneee 50s50 seconds ago
awkward moment when I'm about to be famous bc @Kateplusmy8 is coming to my @Costco to film an episode & I'll be the cashier. ����

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Oh goody.

Unbelievable. Truly unbelievable.


jamezvader1194 said...

@Ingrid Like i said,i want to believe TLC is going to give it another year.Last nights episode did kinda back fired and people did not excuse Kate's excuses for the way she was back then and even more people claim to tune out.Maybe Jon can do something but im not sure.

4rmine said...

Admin please post my entire comment. I'm not sure why you only choose that part. I explain my opinion.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

reader said... 7
Anonymous 199
I can honestly imagine Milo doing the search, seriously.

Love the sense of humor on the veranda.

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I'm betting that is exactly what she is doing, trying to prove that the 500,000 people who changed channels really didn't change channels, but they all live in her viewing area where the cable went out. Is it Atlanta, or somewhere in Georgia?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Localyocul (#17), you mean you don't pre-choose your cashiers when you go shopping? I thought maybe it
was a PA thing!

Mel said...

I thought that Jon guy went away for the weekend to a friend's house, and never came back. His friend's name was Bernie or something like that?

ncgirl said...

"Kate GosselinVerified account ‏@Kateplusmy8 3m3 minutes ago
TONS of ���� emails after last nights #KatePlus8 !!
A HUGE THANKYOU 2 all of you 4 ur stories! ❤️
#MomsStickingTogether #LearningAsWeGo @TLC"

Kate tends to exaggerate. If she got five positive emails, she'd be giddy.

ncgirl said...

"Alyssa Noss ‏@alyssssajuneee 50s50 seconds ago
awkward moment when I'm about to be famous bc @Kateplusmy8 is coming to my @Costco to film an episode & I'll be the cashier. ����"

Shopping for trip, Valentine's Day, Easter, birthday? Maybe she and fake date did hit it off, and we can luxuriate in their love on V Day.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

I thought that Jon guy went away for the weekend to a friend's house, and never came back. His friend's name was Bernie or something like that?

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Sanders?

jamezvader1194 said...

Tsk tsk i guess taking Deanna's word makes it true
Sandie
‏@SandieBellz

@Kateplusmy8 Well, it sounds like we learned the truth about Jon last night. Tsk tsk no gifts for Christmas, etc. #nohalo

reader said...

Where do you find the ratings online?

Localyocul said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 24
Localyocul (#17), you mean you don't pre-choose your cashiers when you go shopping? I thought maybe it
was a PA thing!

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I guess I didn't get the memo

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

And as we've said before, all this protection and defense of TFW only make Can Do Kate seem weak and ineffectual. She's a grown woman. Let her speak for herself.

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Physically she is a grown woman, but she's stunted intellectually and emotionally. She *is* weak and ineffectual and has to rely on her toadies, who are equally as ineffectual. She has proven this time and time again with her insane tweets and blogs. Buy three cars and use the most economical when gas price are high; use your pool or build one to save the cost of community membership. It's cringe-worthy, but the thing is that her sheeple doesn't have any more logical thinking ability than she does.

AuntieAnn said...

Alyssa Noss ‏@alyssssajuneee 7m7 minutes ago
awkward moment when I'm about to be famous bc @Kateplusmy8 is coming to my @Costco to film an episode & I'll be the cashier. ����

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Costco? Geez there's something you don't see everyday. Fasten your sheepbelts.

Shopping? Really TLC? That's all you can come up with?

Berks Neighbor said...

Coming out of the woodwork for a quick comment...
I was thrilled when Bindi Irwin took such an amazing opportunity with Dancing with the Stars and became not only a household name - but proved herself to be a genuine sweetheart that any mom would be proud to call her own.

Now I see Kate using her daughter Maddi to basically be the 'bad guy' in all the newest K+8 shows. Instead of trying to make her daughter seem like a positive and upbeat role model...Maddi is shown to be a negative, pissed off teen with not many redeeming qualities. Whether or not this is true - or a product of selective editing, for Kate to stoop so low as to allow her teen daughter to be portrayed as a selfish and entitled brat speaks volumes about where Kate's priorities are as a mother. Authentic attitude or not, parents are to protect their children - all Kate is doing is protecting her image by suggesting that she's a put-upon mom with an ungrateful child who talks smack about her. Perhaps Kate thinks this is to make herself look better in the public eye, but all it is really doing is damaging her daughter.

As much as I don't care for Terri Irwin - Bindi definitely turned me into a fan for life. That girl has such tremendous opportunities that are going to be available to her from now until who knows when...unfortunately, for Kate's kids - many of them will become the butt of some pretty sad jokes as they grow older, and that breaks my heart.

PatK said...

Shopping at Costco! TV just doesn't get any better than this!!!!

redbird said...

Well, if they are going to film at Costco here in the next few days or even next week, want to bet that we will get to see a snowman from the recent blizzard?

I wonder if some of those kids will be diagnosed with RTVFPTSD?

Reality Television Filming Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

njay said...

Someone "kindly" tweet her and suggest filming an episode where she explains Roberts exaggerations, what really happened and how she would do it as kinder, mellower Kate. String it over a few episodes if need be. The book would gain sales. Kate would have damage control (yeah right) and Admin might have a grand old time with the recap.

One comment about Maddy on the date ep. The final time she said she wanted Kate married so she doesn't die alone. She said it to fast and jovial-ish, then turned slightly and winked at someone and smiled big. It was like "ok, there's my loving comment. Wink, I'm done". I wonder what her pay off was. Also, even though she was a little mean during the game while they babysat, she still wasn't as mean as usual just on normal days without the added stress of babysitting unruly kids. It felt too unnatural.

njay said...

Alyssa Noss ‏@alyssssajuneee 7m7 minutes ago
awkward moment when I'm about to be famous bc @Kateplusmy8 is coming to my @Costco to film an episode & I'll be the cashier. ����
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Not anymore after your boss see's this.

Jeanne said...

The Costco is down my way. I don't want Kate around here. Although I'd be laughing hard at whatever Steve said if I showed up with a picket sign.

We're in for more riveting episodes. Shopping at Costco, shoveling snow (aired in Aug of course), Kate's next birthday, Deanna helps to clean the closet, spring break trip to Bermuda or Jamaica or whatever, kids fight, kids throw up, Kate claims she is the best mom ever. Yawn.

Over In TFW's County said...

For one to be selected as the cashier to be filmed, must that person audition or send in a resume? :) Does those with seniority on the job get preferential treatment? Does Steve vet the people and are they fingerprinted and polygraphed? Are background checks performed?

When I go shopping, I call ahead of time to make sure that my cashier of choice is on duty. If not, I don't go. It's a PA thing.

Snark, of course.

jamezvader1194 said...

So this is odd,the Alyssa Noss ‏that reported that Kate is filming just deleted her twitter account.Did she get fired like the other chick that got fired for "exposing"Kate's privacy?

Over In TFW's County said...

PatK said... 35
Shopping at Costco! TV just doesn't get any better than this!!!!

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Darn. I wanted to see shopping at Walmart. They could have flown in the sheeple to use a bull horn. march around the parking lot and advertise the whole thing.

Sue said...

Well if they are filming at Costco maybe when the blizzard hit it provided some filming opportunities. She tweeted

@Kateplusmy8: 2nd snow day....I've been #MIA bc we've been out in snow ALLLLLL DAY...(u may see what we built soon😉)!
ALL NEW #KatePlus8 TONIGHT AT 10pm

Out in the snow ALLLLLL DAY filming take after take of the kids having fun, fun fun!

Over In TFW's County said...

@Kateplusmy8 Well, it sounds like we learned the truth about Jon last night. Tsk tsk no gifts for Christmas, etc. #nohalo

If this is not true and he had gifts for them at his house, or if she threw them away, she needs to set the record straight on this one. If, for example, his gifts weren't ones that they could open, like he promised to take them to a concert, a vacation, or other events or even money or gift cards, then the truth needs to be told.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

@Kateplusmy8 Well, it sounds like we learned the truth about Jon last night. Tsk tsk no gifts for Christmas, etc. #nohalo

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Oh we learned a lot all right. Including that apparently Deanna thinks it's okay for a child to run the show with a parent refuse court ordered visitation but still demands their freebies. I see what Kate has taught them to value, THINGS.

Mara said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 44
@Kateplusmy8 Well, it sounds like we learned the truth about Jon last night. Tsk tsk no gifts for Christmas, etc. #nohalo

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Oh we learned a lot all right. Including that apparently Deanna thinks it's okay for a child to run the show with a parent refuse court ordered visitation but still demands their freebies. I see what Kate has taught them to value, THINGS.

I think I missed when Deanna stated that the children demanded freebies. I saw her tweet that Jon didn't give all the children gifts. I'm not sure how one makes the leap from that to the children "demanded freebies." Did I miss a tweet?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I couldn't disagree more with the posters who said that any child who doesn't want to see their father should be denied gifts.


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You're mischaracterizing what we're saying. It's not that a child should be DENIED gifts, and what's more, we have no idea what's going on and whether they were "denied" anything.

But it's very dysfunctional if a child is treating Jon like dirt (because they are alienated against him, of course) but still wants gifts. It doesn't work that way and if that's how Deanna sees it, she's wrong.

In fact, in the very same case I discussed in which I won a writ in which the child refused visits, public record, the child would demand his mom buy him laptops and other things like that. Even the judge was getting fed up with the kid, gave him a lecture about how this is a two way street. You don't get to be nasty to mom and refuse any and all of her sincere efforts to patch things up with you, then turn around and demand she throw down hundreds of dollars on electronics.

The judge agreed with me, mom didn't owe him squat including a laptop. What mom did give him, however, was what he needed. His space, making herself available for therapy with him, writing him sincere letters with the help of a therapist, doing all the classes she was supposed to do with flying colors, letting her son know she was ready when he was and loved him. A laptop does not do that.

I have a question, what did the kids get JON for xmas?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think a Costco trip is what they did in one of the first or second episodes. It was early on.

I can picture TLC board members trying to figure out why this show ain't getting the ratings it used to. Genius idea, recycle old plot lines that used to reach 6 million views in the good ole days. Costo!!!

Do they not understand it was Lucy and Ricky that made this show work? No one wants to watch I love Kate unless Jon is there too.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

4rmine, the whole thing posted I think!!....???

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Question for you ex nurse, can you and Deanna envision a scenario where a therapist could feel that providing gifts to a child who is estranging you could only serve to antagonize that child further, or be mistaken as some kind of bribe and upset the child? Or wield power to that child over a parent they are not equipped to handle?

Can you envision a scenario where a good parent would make the tough decision not to send a gift? Deanna apparently can't, for all her forty years.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I didn't watch last night's episodes. Was she soliciting emails from viewers? What "stories" is Kate getting via email? What's this tool talking about?

If she didn't solicit stories why are sheeple randomly writing her stories about their lives? That's so odd.

Two off topic things: AMC is peddling hard Better Call Saul promos. Can't wait!

A documentary showing the prosecution side of Making a Murderer is on ID channel this weekend.

Over And Out said...

Okay, I'll bite. Is this something kinky?

Madi Urban ✼ ‏@urbanskii69 23m23 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 you are my spirit animal🙌🏼

Rhymes with Witch said...

I, for example, his gifts weren't ones that they could open, like he promised to take them to a concert, a vacation, or other events or even money or gift cards, then the truth needs to be told. 44

Truth and Katie don't belong in the same sentence. It is a foreign concept to her.

swingsandroundabouts said...

Mel said... 26

I thought that Jon guy went away for the weekend to a friend's house, and never came back. His friend's name was Bernie or something like that?

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Haha. At the time, that was one of my favorite movies. I still enjoy watching it once in a while.

Over And Out said...

How can they be filming when school is in session? The kids get home at 5 p.m. and are most likely exhausted, not to mention the child labor laws that are in effect. That certainly wouldn't give them enough time to film. Yes, they had two days off from school, but are back in class. Is she working those kids even though they are not on vacation? Weekends maybe?



Wowser said...

Is Jon now promoting the kids being on tv? This should make TFW start flirting with him and asking to get back together. She'll be dreaming about all the trips they can take to renew their vows and restore their family.
http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/jon-gosselin-kate-fight-missing-children/

TLC stinks said...

I figured they were filming.

kris said...

Over and Out said (55)
Okay, I'll bite. Is this something kinky?
Madi Urban ✼ ‏@urbanskii69 23m23 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 you are my spirit animal����
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Kids use that today as a way of saying they want to be like that person.
*puke*

kris said...

jamezvadder1194(44) said
So this is odd,the Alyssa Noss ‏that reported that Kate is filming just deleted her twitter account.Did she get fired like the other chick that got fired for "exposing"Kate's privacy?
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Her twitter is still there, just that tweet is gone. Someone obviously told her to remove it.

Realist Reality, my behind smh.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

If cashier Alyssa tweets later that TFW was an
absolute joy -- smiling, signing autographs, super sweet to all the other customers -- she'll be thanked by the fans. Within 30 seconds, Gladys will say how much she appreciates her "honesty,"
and her telling the #Truth. Hooray for Alyssa!

But if Alyssa says TFW was a surly diva who gave no one the time of day, the fans will tweet her boss, her boss's boss, and the head of Walmart, and try to get her fired for invading TFW's privacy. Trouble-making jealous liar Alyssa!

Does that sound about right?

reader said...

Kate was nasty to Jon while they were "happily" married. I would even say abusive. She was demeaning to him in front of the children, on film and in public. She does not allow him past the gate of the home he once owned. Nannies listened in on telephone calls. And this is what we KNOW! I absolutely can imagine that she fills her children's heads with guilt and suspicion about seeing their father. Heck, the way she speaks to her children when filming, really demeaning. The comments on the blind date, she is constantly throwing their father under the bus.
And now her bff for this season anyway, goes on twitter to defend Kate by trashing Jon- to me that is huge, absolute evidence of parental alienation.
She has alienated so many!
When you think someone can't appear anymore low down and dirty, and they do.
And when will she get over feeling sorry for herself? So many in her mind have let her down. She doesn't see how the world sees it as just the opposite.

NJGal51 said...

The Costco trip may be some time in the future and the store manager may have told the employees about it to prepare them. Alyssa was probably excited and jumped the gun and tweeted about it. Yup, the realest reality show where you pre-pick the cashier at Costco. God forbid you stand in the line like everyone else.

kris said...

NJGal51, can you imagine her standing with the unwashed masses? lol How mediocre!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Maybe the Costco trip is supposed to show how TFW's 8 growing children are eating her out of house and home. Poor thing. She wanted babies, but then they went ahead and grew up on her.

Will the fans marvel at her organization skills, and how she can stretch a dollar? Meanwhile, the employee tipped us off that this stuff is coordinated in advance, so I bet every minute of the shopping trip will be mapped out ahead of time, and paid for by TLC. How, how, how are the fans still buying into this phony nonsense?

Tucker's Mom said...

Is she working those kids even though they are not on vacation? Weekends maybe?

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Probably and most likely. It's possible they filmed the snow aftermath. Kate would never be out playing in the snow all day. No way. Not without cameras.
The Costco episode is obviously some tie in that will serve as a background for yet another party or whatever.
Disappointed in Costco.

Tucker's Mom said...


“The show provided a means of living in a really rewarding way,” he confessed. “I got to see my kids all the time while working.”

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/jon-gosselin-kate-fight-missing-children/
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I think everyone is on board with that. In the beginning, the show did just that for this family that was truly struggling. The show was more organic, then it wasn't.
That's when Jon wanted out.
I'm sure Jon's grateful for the show-in the beginning- because it changed their lives in a good way in that they weren't struggling.
The problem was greed on everyone's part. Jon, Kate and TLC.
Jon seemed to want to pull away, but Kate and TLC didn't want the gravy train to end.

I think Jon's being very honest. If he totally eschews TLC and everything and opportunity it brought him, he'd be a liar.

There was a lot of good that came of the show at first. Of course, the bad followed and continues to this day.

If Jon is not railing against filming anymore, I don't blame him. There's nothing he can do to stop Kate. Accepting this and figuring out how life is going to work with his kids being used for filming and money is just a part of real life for Jon.

The only thing that can stop filming for any or all of the kids is if they refuse.

Tucker's Mom said...

Someone posted a compilation of Deanna tweeting frenzy in Radar's comment section ;-)


Deanna Bell ‏@deannatweeting

You never know the real story unless U are in a situation & I can say U really don't know the truth here.
I know&talk to the kids constantly.I see the parent that cares for their wellbeing,health,education.
The only side of the story that anyone needs is the thoughts and opinions of the kids. Their choice.
No, but good point. Now think hard and ask yourself why they stay at home.
Trust that there are experts involved. The kids are cared for and very happy.
No, thats not why. Parents can't prevent visitation no matter lies he told on a talk show.
What 4 day visits/dinners? That is a lie.
Only a few visit and never for 3 or 4 days. Trust that there are experts involved.
Then why are you tweeting to me? I see the kids. I know the truth.No I don't. He only sees a few and didn't even give xmas gifts to them all.
Yes it's too bad, because there are lots of lies.
Not my truth. The kids' truth.
Exactly. So much more to say, but I will hold my tongue.

MikeB said...

It wouldn't surprise me if Kate convinced TLC to send a cameraman over to the compound before the storm hit. You'll see them going to Costco to stock up on the survival essentials and then see the them playing in the snow. What riveting TV.

Someone should tell the poor Costco cashier not to get her hopes up. The massage parlor girl tweeted the same thing last summer and her footage got left on the cutting room floor.

Vanessa said...

We can believe that there are abused women/men who stay with their abusers.
Victims excuse or explain away their abuse. Some lie protect their abuser. Some blame themselves. Some do whatever their abuser tells them to do. They do whatever it takes to just keep things calm and peaceful (which is like walking on eggshells all the time) They are isolated, gaslighted, manipulated etc......why can't we believe these kids are in the same kind of hell hole?
Narcissistic Abuse is REAL. Victims are brainwashed-Stockholm Syndrome. PTSD.
Her journal is proof of her personality disorder. She is TEXTBOOK.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

There are many ways to show a child you care besides a materialistic gift, most of them more meaningful and effective. Deanna should think about that before making snap judgments.

Paula said...

There are many ways to show a child you care besides a materialistic gift, most of them more meaningful and effective

And this is something most children know and understand. However, apparently, according to Kate and Deanna, this is the only criteria by which you measure "love" - how many "things" one receives. Both of them are so f'd up.

Tucker's Mom said...

How is Jon supposed to give his kids gifts if he physically doesn't see them?
Is he supposed to send the gift via courier? Via the kids who do come to see him?
What a f*cked up thing to take from this. A father doesn't see the children he loves and what Deanna focuses on is that he didn't buy them gifts for Christmas.
Talk about rearranging the deck chairs.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Maybe Jon feels like he can't in good conscience feel like he "won" the children back just because he forked over money he didn't have to get an iPhone for them. Maybe he finds that objectionable. I do.

Another possibility, Deanna may have been lied to. Kate would lie or exaggerate or mislead about the gift situation in a heartbeat.

There are two.sides.to.every.story.

AuntieAnn said...

"No, thats not why. Parents can't prevent visitation no matter lies he told on a talk show."

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HE told on a talk show?

Oh, the irony.

Tucker's Mom said...

This is what matters:

“Kids need their fathers and I make sure to let them know how much I love them and am there for them.”

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/jon-gosselin-kate-fight-missing-children/

Deanna needs to STFU

Tucker's Mom said...

AuntieAnn said... 77
"No, thats not why. Parents can't prevent visitation no matter lies he told on a talk show."

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HE told on a talk show?

Oh, the irony.
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The irony is as thick as pea soup.
Maybe Kate doesn't prevent them, but I'm betting she sure as hell isn't encouraging or directing them to go visit Jon.
I'm betting Kate either asks them if they want to go, or just says "ok" when any kid wants to stay behind.
I bet dollars to donuts it pleases the heck out of her when her kids refuse visits.
More dollars to donuts that she throws her arms up in the air and says, "not my problem".
To Kate, this is a Jon problem, not a Kate problem.

AuntieAnn said...

The real irony that strikes me is how many times Kate has gone on talk shows and lied and not just little white lies either. How far back should we start? Where do we start? When has she ever NOT told lies on a talk show?

Oh Deanna. You little toady. Kate's got you under a spell.

4rmine said...

Admin (76) ....
There are two.sides.to.every.story.

And to that I say "and the truth is somewhere in between". A lot of information is unknown, and that is why speculating is not helpful.

As far as the gifts are concerned, I think that it is a slippery slope. They are kids - point blank. Sibling rivalry is not uncommon in any family, regardless if they are intact or fragmented. I hear the argument about only giving to those who see Jon, but that sounds like bribery. I wouldn't be surprised if those kids who didn't receive gifts feel that he "favors" the others more. I can also see him holding the gifts at his house until they come for visitation.

Admin, regarding my inquiry into my missing post, it did post I just didn't see it.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I have to disagree when Deanna says the only thing that matters is the thoughts and opinions of the kids, and that it's their choice. We've gone over this example before, but if it was up to kids, they'd stay up all night eating junk food and skip school and just play video games until their eyeballs fell out. Kids need help making choices, and sometimes have to do things they don't want to do. A reasonable adult can see this, and will guide them to appropriate choices. But it sounds like neither TFW nor her BFF du jour Deanna possess such maturity. They're just happy that TFW has "won," with no thought to the permanent damage being done.

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Kris im looking it up and it saids it doesn't exist.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


As far as the gifts are concerned, I think that it is a slippery slope. They are kids - point blank. Sibling rivalry is not uncommon in any family, regardless if they are intact or fragmented. I hear the argument about only giving to those who see Jon, but that sounds like bribery. I wouldn't be surprised if those kids who didn't receive gifts feel that he "favors" the others more. I can also see him holding the gifts at his house until they come for visitation.

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Yes. And the bottom line is it's unfair and certainly inappropriate for Deanna to put something like that out there in order to bolster Kate, knowing full well the complexities of something like that and all the many reasonable explanations out there for a dicey situation like that. It wasn't her place to control the narrative on this and she should know better.

And if she's going to go there with gifts, what is her response to Kate's recent snubbing of Collin's thoughtful gift? This is a two way street. With something like that out there, I'd be careful about casting stones.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I have to disagree when Deanna says the only thing that matters is the thoughts and opinions of the kids, and that it's their choice.


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I'm with you there.

And especially in parental alienation cases, if the only thing that counted was the child's opinion, we'd have many more families out there that would never be repaired.

Part of being a responsible adult, whether you are the parent, the judge, the therapist or a teacher or anyone else in their life including a friend, is you do what is best for a child even sometimes when the child disagrees. A good parent is able to say no even when a child says yes. Parents or anyone else who cannot bring themselves to do that out of what they think is love, are only hurting the children.

fidosmommy said...

Was Deanna at the Gosselin's at Christmas? I assume she has her own family, but of course I don't know - I don't even know if she's Christian and celebrates Christmas at all.

But let's say she is, and was with her own family. How would she know what Jon gave or didn't give to 8 individual kids? Run off a roll call? Request a detailed list? The only way she would know is if Kate told her that or if kids were asked "And what did Daddy give YOU, kiddo?" I seriously doubt any of the kids spontaneously uttered "My dad didn't get me anything" to Deanna.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

The real irony that strikes me is how many times Kate has gone on talk shows and lied and not just little white lies either. How far back should we start? Where do we start? When has she ever NOT told lies on a talk show?

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I guess that Deanna believes that Kate just got a good bra, even though she's been on a beach with her watching those things bounce around.

I'm surprised that Kate didn't tell her who makes that good bra and hasn't gotten her several of them for free.

TLC stinks said...

Deanna is parroting Kate. Jeff Prescott, who never met Jon, did the same when he called him publicly a "dead beat dad".

Kate can be smug about the filming now, but eventually the twins will leave home. Then the theme of eight is gone.

Sue_Buddy said...

Jamesvader1194 said... 83
@Kris im looking it up and it saids it doesn't exist.



https://twitter.com/junieebjimenez_/with_replies

Rhymes with Witch said...

I can also see him holding the gifts at his house until they come for visitation. 81

If he did send gifts with the children who visited, it's highly likely that Katie would withhold them in her never ending quest to portray Jon as a deadbeat dad.

I have a friend whose ex moved a thousand miles away when their son was 4. At the age of 25 he came across all the gifts that his father had sent over the years that had been successfully hidden by his mother over the years.

Lanc Native said...

"It wouldn't surprise me if Kate convinced TLC to send a cameraman over to the compound before the storm hit. You'll see them going to Costco to stock up on the survival essentials and then see the them playing in the snow. What riveting TV." (71).

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The storm hit Friday night around 6 p.m. here. The kids were in school all week, which meant that if TLC did that, they would have filmed after the hours when minors are allowed to work, unless she pulled them out of school for daytime filming during that week. They didn't go anywhere on Saturday at the height of the blizzard. Everything was shut down and I hope they weren't on the roads at that time. Those pesky little child labor laws would have meant that they couldn't film after 7 p.m. or before 7 a.m.

But it's Kate. Who knows what she did?

Formerly Duped said...

Anyone know why this episode is not on that DailyMotion site? I would watch and fast forward if it comes on there to see more about what Deanna had to say.I could watch On Demand but I'm too exhaustedish to bother lol

Jamesvader1194 said...

@sue_buddy ok maybe twitter is just being buggy because everytime i clicked her name it saids it doesn't exist.Weird.@fidosmommy exactly!Why would Deanna ask the kids what jon gave them?Why would she care?Unless Kate told her.

Sue_Buddy said...

Kate's a master at manipulating. She started early by manipulating her brother by getting him to do her chores. He let her get away with it, and so did her parents. It's what she does.

She wants a circus theme again for kid's birthday...she gets a circus theme. She gave kids a choice when time to go on the boat...go on boat or stay behind and clean, or cook or whatever icky thing they wouldn't want to do. Then freely admitted that the kids were given a choice, they didn't HAVE to go on the boat.

She gets what she wants by sleazy manipulation. No wonder she's always so exhausted. She's always scheming, one way or another.

Mel said...

Deanna surely had no business publicly disclosing private details of the kids' lives. Talk about an invasion of privacy.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

How, how, how are the fans still buying into this phony nonsense?

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They are fans. They share a single brain cell. Just read the tweets and their timelines, and that tells you all you need to know.

AuntieAnn said...

Deanna is parroting Kate.

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Yes, hate by proxy. Isn't Kate just the cunning little fox. Now she can say SHE didn't say anything against their father, someone else said those things. Deanna appears to be one very gullible, insecure lacky.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

But if Alyssa says TFW was a surly diva who gave no one the time of day, the fans will tweet her boss, her boss's boss, and the head of Walmart, and try to get her fired for invading TFW's privacy. Trouble-making jealous liar Alyssa!

Does that sound about right?

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Yes, except that the head of Walmart will be scratching his or her head trying to figure out what it's about, since they went to Costco! ;)

rainbowsandunicorns said...

The Costco trip may be some time in the future and the store manager may have told the employees about it to prepare them. Alyssa was probably excited and jumped the gun and tweeted about it. Yup, the realest reality show where you pre-pick the cashier at Costco. God forbid you stand in the line like everyone else.

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I was thinking the same thing. She didn't say that she was filmed, only chosen, and I wondered if she didn't mean that it was to be some time in the future. It wasn't past tense.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

Jamesvader1194 said... 83
@Kris im looking it up and it saids it doesn't exist.

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What doesn't exist?

Tucker's Mom said...

Mel said... 94
Deanna surely had no business publicly disclosing private details of the kids' lives. Talk about an invasion of privacy.
January 28, 2016 at 9:40 AM
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I'd be surprised if Deanna didn't violate a court order there.

But, for shits and grins, let's just say that Jon is just an awful Dad. He doesn't give a hoot how many kids come down that driveway (btw, will Kate NEVER be ordered to bring the kids TO Jon? Ever?), and is Scrooge incarnate.
How the hell is this any of Deanna's business to broadcast on social media? The same social media that gets picked up and splashed across Radar et. al.?

She's crossed the line and I hope Jon's lawyers gift her a nice gift of a C&D.

localyocul said...

Guys, the person changed her @name. That is causing the confusion. If you look her up by ‏@alyssssajuneee, you get account doesn't exist. If you look her up by Alyssa Noss she shows up as @junieebjimenez_

I know it's her because I was looking through her tweets before she disappeared and she tweeted this a few days before the Kate tweet and it made me laugh because it came true. Sort of:

Alyssa Noss ‏@junieebjimenez_ Jan 24
I just want to know what it'd be like to be famous for a day. 👑

FYI said...

Formerly Duped said... 91
Anyone know why this episode is not on that DailyMotion site? I would watch and fast forward if it comes on there to see more about what Deanna had to say.I could watch On Demand but I'm too exhaustedish to bother lol
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3o6pj2_kate-plus-8-s04e08-season-4-episode-8-hd-full-episodes-new-release_tv


BTW, Deanna isn't shown in this episode. It's just old clips with Kate sitting on the couch making comments about them.

It really should have been titled "Kate's Excuses for Being a Bitch".

Jon is totally wiped out of the clips, but they did manage to include Steve without blurring out his face.

Blowing In The Wind said...

She's crossed the line and I hope Jon's lawyers gift her a nice gift of a C&D.

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I hope that his attorneys know about this and have all of the tweets that she deleted.

fidosmommy said...

Localyokul, what could be more famous than being a topic on this blog? She's made it! :)

Blowing In The Wind said...

Yes, hate by proxy. Isn't Kate just the cunning little fox. Now she can say SHE didn't say anything against their father, someone else said those things. Deanna appears to be one very gullible, insecure lacky.

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All in the name of defending her friend because Kate doesn't have a mouth of her own and depends on her toadys to do the job. These people are so darn dumb that they still haven't figured out that they are being used. I have never seen anything like it.

Sue said...

I know it's her because I was looking through her tweets before she disappeared and she tweeted this a few days before the Kate tweet and it made me laugh because it came true. Sort of:

Alyssa Noss ‏@junieebjimenez_ Jan 24
I just want to know what it'd be like to be famous for a day.

Maybe she made the whole thing up about them planning a shoot at Costco and deleted everything when it got out of hand on Kate's timeline.

jamezvader1194 said...

@Localyocul thanks for clearing up the confusion.@sue We would all love it,if she is making it up and thats why she deleted it but i doubt it.

Vanessa said...

Careful what you wish for. You want to design a house with a sick room, your kids may design one with a padded room, just for YOU!!

Vanessa said...

Her revision of the painting with pudding. So, it's "OH LEAH!!! so cuuutteee!"

"Oh, Colin's bathing in it? That's really strange, but ok?"

localyocul said...

jamezvader1194 said... 107
@Localyocul thanks for clearing up the confusion.@sue We would all love it,if she is making it up and thats why she deleted it but i doubt it.

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LOL. No, I don't think she made it up! Time will tell.

Vanessa said...

Ha!! Boy, she sure spoke the truth with this one
"I have chosen what I want to remember"

Tucker's Mom said...

All in the name of defending her friend because Kate doesn't have a mouth of her own and depends on her toadys to do the job. These people are so darn dumb that they still haven't figured out that they are being used. I have never seen anything like it.

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I don't think even the Kardashians have toady mouth pieces. They have the silicone-injected balls to take care of business themselves.

Vanessa said...

Why is she wearing a huge ring on her wedding finger?

PA Dutch Mom said...

OT for locals and Billy fans...

Billy In Philly. July 9 at Citizens. Just looking ahead and thinking about a nice summer concert.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Blowing (#105), I think Deanna is a TWB -- toady with benefits. She's making out quite well for herself with this connection. From a nameless, faceless, below-the-line production person to an on camera "character?" With free trips and steady work to boot? She's not just sticking her neck out for a friend -- she's got a substantial investment in TFW's success at this point, and doesn't want to see it go away.

Vanessa said...

"I was being very very mean, but I wasn't being mean to him. It was my total fear seeping out, and so I was taking it out on him. I actually had tears in my eyes, I could cry right now"
"but fear does crazy things to you, but that's not an excuse"
OMG!! Pure narc speak. Contradicts herself in the very same sentence. Becomes the victim in this situation, instead of "skywalker man" and feel sawwwy for me!! I was sooo scared!!

Vanessa said...

"Some don't answer, nobody did it, wasn't me...not only is there property damage going on, but now there's LYING!!!!"

holy eff, does she listen to herself??

rainbowsandunicorns said...

I don't think even the Kardashians have toady mouth pieces. They have the silicone-injected balls to take care of business themselves.

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Well, Kate has silicone-injected something, but they're above the waist.

Vanessa said...

The RV discussion.
"WE" were at our worst"

"I used to get all dramticky, melty downy"

Blaming her behavior on the trip this time!

NJGal51 said...

For those of you interested, info on the new Celebrity Apprentice.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/nbc-reveals-cast-celebrity-apprentice-article-1.2512665

It just won't be the same without The Donald but I'll give it a shot.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

LOL. No, I don't think she made it up! Time will tell.

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It doesn't sound like something that a person would randomly make up out of the blue just to get 15 minutes on Kate's twitter. Of course, some of those people are really weird, and sheep have been known to do such things just to stir things up a bit and get the non-fans riled up!

Vanessa said...

"we're growing the most amazing THINGS you could ever grow"

THINGS!??!!
she's talking about her kids by the way

Vanessa said...

"have you ever filled 1000 eggs?"
You haven't either liar

Vanessa said...

I thought the premise of this show was go give her younger self advice???
NO, all she did was justify, minimize, rationalize, deflect and blame.

Formerly Duped said...

KIAT, thanks! I couldn't get it from the last episode's link for some reason! ok, now to watch this mess...

Vanessa said...

"I don't gender specify."
"there's no men around to build stuff"

what.the.actual.f$#@

Jeanne said...

Beth Carson is designing yoga mats. Article today in the Reading Eagle. Interesting.
http://www.readingeagle.com/life/article/yoga-mats-are-works-of-art

localyocul said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 114
OT for locals and Billy fans...

Billy In Philly. July 9 at Citizens. Just looking ahead and thinking about a nice summer concert.

))

We went last year...didn't you too? Someone did..it was great! July 9 is our vaca week though. :(

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She's not just sticking her neck out for a friend -- she's got a substantial investment in TFW's success at this point, and doesn't want to see it go away.

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Exactly. She's a toady with a conflict of interest. She has a vested interest in these kids getting in good with Kate, not Jon, and continuing to go along with the explotation like little marching ants. If they don't, not only is Kate screwed but Deanna's out of this job.

Conflict of interest, Deanna.

localyocul said...

Vanessa said... 116
"I was being very very mean, but I wasn't being mean to him.

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Ummm, no, you were being mean to him. I take it you are watching this Vanessa? I didn't see it

Tucker's Mom said...

Vanessa said... 119
The RV discussion.
"WE" were at our worst"

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Everyone was jolly at the time. Kate's face went dark with rage when she found out they were eating pizza.
Everyone was having fun during the rafting when Kate threatened to withhold food from anyone who got her wet.
All kids were quiet and behaving when Cara shoved Jamie' son.

localyocul said...

Vanessa said... 117
"Some don't answer, nobody did it, wasn't me...not only is there property damage going on, but now there's LYING!!!!"

holy eff, does she listen to herself??

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Right? She still doesn't get that 1. taking a screw off knob off is not "property damage". 2. Kids that age don't know what is on or off limits. They don't know what's not a toy. That's why it is up to adults to childproof. She would blame a kid if they drank some bleach I'm sure. "Now there is stealing of cleaning products going on!!!"

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It just won't be the same without The Donald but I'll give it a shot.

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It won't be the same. I will miss the way he would get distracted when someone was talking and interupt them to tell them how beautiful and great they are. Lol, he's one of a kind. I'll miss the Trump kids too.

Did you see though that Warren Buffett is going to be an "eyes and ears"? What! That's awesome, I love him.

Tucker's Mom said...

Vanessa said... 123
"have you ever filled 1000 eggs?"
You haven't either liar
January 28, 2016 at 12:16 PM
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Isn't it amazing that Kate can sit there and lie when there are eye witnesses and her journals that refute the filming b.s.?
People still are in awe of her potty training prowess.

Tucker's Mom said...

Vanessa said... 123
"have you ever filled 1000 eggs?"
You haven't either liar
January 28, 2016 at 12:16 PM
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Why would anyone? Unless you're hosting an Easter egg hunt for 100 kids.
Yet, the sheep will picture Kate, waist deep in plastic eggs, filling them one by one...

Doofii.

Vanessa said...

ucker's Mom said... 131
Vanessa said... 119
The RV discussion.
"WE" were at our worst"

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Everyone was jolly at the time. Kate's face went dark with rage when she found out they were eating pizza.
Everyone was having fun during the rafting when Kate threatened to withhold food from anyone who got her wet.
All kids were quiet and behaving when Cara shoved Jamie' son.
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Exactly. You're always waiting for the other shoe to drop with a narcissist. When things are going well, when their "narc supplies" are enjoying themselves, if they dare let their guard down, the narc throws a wrench into it and all goes to hell.

Tucker's Mom said...

Jeanne said... 127
Beth Carson is designing yoga mats. Article today in the Reading Eagle. Interesting.
http://www.readingeagle.com/life/article/yoga-mats-are-works-of-art
January 28, 2016 at 12:27 PM
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I could swear Beth's been making these mats for awhile now. I'm pretty sure I read this before.
They're stunning.
Beth has talent.

Vanessa said...

localyocul said... 130
Vanessa said... 116
"I was being very very mean, but I wasn't being mean to him.

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Ummm, no, you were being mean to him. I take it you are watching this Vanessa? I didn't see it
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Yes, just watched.
But she says she was being mean, but not to him, then I WAS TAKING IT OUT ON HIM.

You will never ever understand how the narcissists brain works. EVER.

Vanessa said...

If they don't, not only is Kate screwed but Deanna's out of this job.
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Would serve her right. Lesson learned.

localyocul said...

OMFG I was kind of looking through the show video and came across a POTTY TRAINING segment! I can't believe she had the nerve with the diary being out there about her beating one and thinking he should have been potty trained in five days. She condescendingly said something like the girls potty trained fast, this was my first experience with boys, and yes I lost my patience. She said "I'm sorry but anyone who says they didn't is lying" or something like that. Ummm no. I never ever ever lost my patience with potty training. It's a process. What is there to lose your patience over? And I certainly never ever ever beat a toddler for doing a normal bodily function, or for doing what toddlers do. GRRRRR

start around 5;45\\http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3o6pj2_kate-plus-8-s04e08-season-4-episode-8-hd-full-episodes-new-release_tv

Vanessa said...

Isn't it amazing that Kate can sit there and lie when there are eye witnesses and her journals that refute the filming b.s.?
People still are in awe of her potty training prowess.
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The lies just roll off the tongue with her. Amazing is one word to describe it, I'd say it's dangerous. When you finally wake up to the truth that your whole childhood/life has been filled with lies (even inconsequential ones, lies that serve no purpose)there's a lot emotions to sift through. You question your reality, You question your sanity, when it's your abuser who is INSANE!

Leslie said...

I swear the tweet about Jon not giving some kids no Christmas presents really makes me mad. Deanna's sole purpose in stating that is because she wants the world to think Jon does not even care for his kids enough to buy presents for them.

The truth is 1) He may have brought all 8 presents and the ones that did not show up got no present. That is fair enough. Or 2) Maybe he knew certain kids would not show up and didn't purposely send presents home to them because it may have upset them.

But the point is Jon did not purposely withhold presents from any of his kids to be mean. And that is strictly what Deanna wants the readers to think. She is twisting the facts. I will NEVER believe Jon withheld presents for lack of caring, spite, or to be mean. Shame on Deanna!

Vanessa said...

@ localyocal
"I'm sorry but anyone who says they didn't is lying" or something like that.
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It's another version of "every mom would" "every mom has"
"like all moms"
Triangualtion

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 134
It just won't be the same without The Donald but I'll give it a shot.

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It won't be the same. I will miss the way he would get distracted when someone was talking and interupt them to tell them how beautiful and great they are. Lol, he's one of a kind. I'll miss the Trump kids too.

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I'll give it a shot. Sitting across the table from The Terminator would make a little pee run down my leg, if I'm being truthful here.
;-)

Tucker's Mom said...

Exactly. You're always waiting for the other shoe to drop with a narcissist. When things are going well, when their "narc supplies" are enjoying themselves, if they dare let their guard down, the narc throws a wrench into it and all goes to hell.
January 28, 2016 at 12:40 PM
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Moreover, the closer they were to the end of that RV trip, the sooner they got to their luxury, cherry-on-the-top reward of a vacation stay in Las Vegas.
Geeeeeawwwwwwd, how do sheeple not know this?

Oh, and boo-hoo your RV broke down. When you have a crew in chase vehicles the whole time, you just sit there while everyone else solves all the mishaps.
BFD.

Tucker's Mom said...

She said "I'm sorry but anyone who says they didn't is lying" or something like that. Ummm no. I never ever ever lost my patience with potty training. It's a process. What is there to lose your patience over? And I certainly never ever ever beat a toddler for doing a normal bodily function, or for doing what toddlers do. GRRRRR

start around 5;45\\http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3o6pj2_kate-plus-8-s04e08-season-4-episode-8-hd-full-episodes-new-release_tv
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Losing patience is one thing. Blurting out expletives? Sure. Physically hitting a toddler for pooping? When he doesn't yet have bowel control?
Never.
Never.
Never.

jamezvader1194 said...

@Admin i have a question.Kate saids the twins don't have social media accounts but Jon said that they do but is not going to reveal it to anyone.I see no reason why jon would lie about them having social media.But if the twins want nothing to do with him and don't see him,how would he know they have accounts and why would they tell him they have social media accounts?If jon is not an involved father then i don't see why they'd tell him about their accounts.

Tucker's Mom said...

But the point is Jon did not purposely withhold presents from any of his kids to be mean. And that is strictly what Deanna wants the readers to think. She is twisting the facts. I will NEVER believe Jon withheld presents for lack of caring, spite, or to be mean. Shame on Deanna!
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Same here.
Putting it out there that Jon is such a bad dad that he didn't even give some kids Christmas presents is really dirty pool.
The only thing Deanna accomplished was hurting the kids and making this whole, pathetic, sickening mess WORSE for them.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I wonder if Deanna has watched the old episodes. Has she seen Jon preparing The Queen's morning coffee before work, and delivering it to her so she could stay in bed (and ignore her toddlers
as long as possible)? Then coming home after a long day of work to bathe all 8 of them and put them to bed? Deanna can't get away with this evil portrayal of Jon to those of us who watched what
a hands-on dad he was. And if he no longer is one, I'd place a good deal of blame on TFW, who will go to any lengths to keep him away from his children.

Wowser said...

Omg! Justify deflect excuse...what a narcissistic fool..she can't keep up with her own lies. Cupcake gate...she was absolutely mean to those boys and for goodness sake it was their BIRTHDAY cupcake..,who the freak cares if they don't eat all their healthy dinner and in order under her Hitler reign...she sat their and justified her cruelty to those babies THEN LIED and said they ate them the next day....Jon and Kate both sat on the couch and said they didn't eat them OR ask for them the next day. So which is it Kate?? What a tool. She makes my blood boil.

AuntieAnn said...

The only thing Deanna accomplished was hurting the kids and making this whole, pathetic, sickening mess WORSE for them.

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Which probably pleases Kate no end. She wants people to think she's the parent always taking the high road. For her to have tweeted what Deanna did would have been, to quote a line from the Exorcist, much too vulgar a display.

Wowser said...

Loved the subtle (not) thanking and begging the viewers to watch....she knows her viewers are dwindling.. Quick!!! TLC. Help me rewrite history and make excuses and try to convince everyone I'm a different person so they will watch watch watch so I can keep selling my children!!

Midnight Madness said...

Loved the subtle (not) thanking and begging the viewers to watch....she knows her viewers are dwindling.. Quick!!! TLC. Help me rewrite history and make excuses and try to convince everyone I'm a different person so they will watch watch watch so I can keep selling my children!!

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But she didn't run a contest begging viewers to come up with slogans and such why they should watch the show (like she did a few years ago). At least the Super Store parking lots weren't inundated with sheeple making videos and running around like lunatics!

fidosmommy said...

"Kate Gosselin, Different Person" is not going to grow an audience. Those who watch want to see her argue, gripe, lose control and deal badly with snippy children.

They would love it even more if Kate had a cranky neighbor 200 yards away to contend with too.

Maybe Milo or Goody is up to living in Wernersville. Episode idea : Building a carriage house

Midnight Madness said...

I don't think even the Kardashians have toady mouth pieces. They have the silicone-injected balls to take care of business themselves.

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Well, Kate has silicone-injected something, but they're above the waist.

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Jon's balls are stored somewhere. Now let's see. Where does she keep those things? In the freezer with the goldfish or out in the barn with the chicken feed?

Midnight Madness said...

CarleneMarie ‏@CarleneMarie_1
Oh and btw haters, your hero Jon himself said the kids are fine financially. Your claim that Kate's living off their $$ is false!

Huh? This Carlene sheep is a real dimwit. The money put aside for the kids may be used for their well-being, education, healthcare, whatever. This would, of course, include mortgage, security system, utilities, etc., and Kate may withdraw this money for that purpose. Kate is living at that house and therefore it logically follows that she would be living off the kids' money. Their money; they earned it; Kate benefits.

CarleneMarie @CarleneMarie_1
@Kateplusmy8 https://t.co/Fu0q5ICTav

Would that be Milo? The one who does the most talking? Carlene's quoting a former bachelorette. That explains a lot!

fidosmommy said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 150
I wonder if Deanna has watched the old episodes. Has she seen Jon preparing The Queen's morning coffee before work, and delivering it to her so she could stay in bed

******

That's on Deanna's job description now isn't it? snark.

Anonymous said...

I think the Costco cashier was one of their best customer service representatives. When we get auditors where I work, the best of the best is asked to preform takes for them. The others are encouraged to go to the office area and wait for the auditors to leave. You have to put your best foot forward especially when it's being filed for TV.

Andrea

kris said...

fidosmommy said... 158
FlimsyFlamsy said... 150
I wonder if Deanna has watched the old episodes. Has she seen Jon preparing The Queen's morning coffee before work, and delivering it to her so she could stay in bed

******

That's on Deanna's job description now isn't it? snark.

OMGosh, hysterical!! And true! :D

Leslie said...

And does Carlene think TLC would be filming just Kate if she did not make her performing monkeys film.That is the only way Kate makes money is through filming her every movement of her kids lives the past TEN years. Her kids are put to work to feed, house, education, cloth, and entertain themselves and their MOTHER. Oh, Kate also made tons of money off of several books but those books were 100% about her kids too. Kate is being kept by her kids.

Her kids have been financing her retirement too. Kate is NOT providing for her kids. Oh, and Kate just said she is retiring on the beach. I bet Kate is in the process of socking millions away just for her high living, extensive world traveling, and beach home for her old age...all paid for by her kids of course.

AuntieAnn said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 150

I wonder if Deanna has watched the old episodes. Has she seen Jon preparing The Queen's morning coffee before work, and delivering it to her so she could stay in bed

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And if she was watching him stir her royal hiney's coffee, did Deanna notice the post-it notes stuck all over the place with instructions for the army of volunteers that were helping them as well? Is she such a dimwit that she can't connect the dots?

Here Deanna, have another glass of koolaid. Good girl. Now roll over and play dead. Atta girl.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

CarleneMarie ‏@CarleneMarie_1
Oh and btw haters, your hero Jon himself said the kids are fine financially. Your claim that Kate's living off their $$ is false!

Huh? This Carlene sheep is a real dimwit. The money put aside for the kids may be used for their well-being, education, healthcare, whatever. This would, of course, include mortgage, security system, utilities, etc., and Kate may withdraw this money for that purpose. Kate is living at that house and therefore it logically follows that she would be living off the kids' money. Their money; they earned it; Kate benefits.

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Excellent point.

Serious question. Is there anyone among the fans, other than the teenies who spend their days lusting after Bieber, who have any critical thinking ability? I would think that there are mature adults with kids of their own who could actually see through this farce that Kate has put out. At one time I thought there were a few "normal" ones out there who, while remaining fans, could actually figure out that something just isn't right in the Gosselin household.

Can it be that every one of them is caught up in a Jim Jones web? Have there been any of them who actually did wake up and smell the coffee and abandon the flock?

Fido, there is an apartment above the garage. Milo and Goody could be roomies. I must admit -- I would watch that.

jamezvader1194 said...

Basically i don't see how that would work."Sorry dad i don't want to see you but don't tell mom that we have social media accounts."

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Here Deanna, have another glass of koolaid. Good girl. Now roll over and play dead. Atta girl.

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Ha! Who will rub her belly and scratch her behind the ears? Steve? Deckster Dude, or is he too busy with those lesbian decks for preachers?

Honestly, that was the dumbest tweet I think I have ever seen coming from someone who is in charge of a company, owner of a company, or whatever the heck he does there.

redbird said...

AuntieAnn said... 162
FlimsyFlamsy said... 150

I wonder if Deanna has watched the old episodes. Has she seen Jon preparing The Queen's morning coffee before work, and delivering it to her so she could stay in bed

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And if she was watching him stir her royal hiney's coffee, did Deanna notice the post-it notes stuck all over the place with instructions for the army of volunteers that were helping them as well? Is she such a dimwit that she can't connect the dots?

Here Deanna, have another glass of koolaid. Good girl. Now roll over and play dead. Atta girl.

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Bwahaha! So funny, AuntieAnn!

When you said roll over, atta girl, I thought of Blanche when she was telling the girls that all horse jockeys do when you sleep with them is when you get up after it is over, pat you on the bottom like you were a horse and say, Good Girl! Good Girl

fidosmommy said...

Fido, there is an apartment above the garage. Milo and Goody could be roomies. I must admit -- I would watch that.

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Works for me. I'd watch it too.

But of course that apartment would need a full RENOVATION with a spa bath, a chef kitchen with 2 ovens and 2 dishwashers and a garden tranquility maze. Like I said, another episode theme. How soon until
Kate thinks of this?

reader said...

Dad has been pushed out of this child's life. Not by divorce, not by court orders, not by visitation denials or custody revocations. But by something much more devastating, much more destructive, and much more permanent. Orchestrated by someone whose actions – while remaining hidden from the public & immune from prosecution – have permitted them to inflict the most pain possible onto a loving parent by manipulating his children into believing he's not only unlikable, but despicable, worthy of abandoning.
Who does she think she's fooling?

AuntieAnn said...

Honestly, that was the dumbest tweet I think I have ever seen coming

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Yeah, how do you fit "lesbian-friendly" into your company slogan? lol!

AuntieAnn said...

Redbird, Golden Girls was one of the best sit-coms I've ever watched. Another one to add to our list of sad goodbyes.

Eight is More Than Enough said...

Tucker's Mom said... 69

“The show provided a means of living in a really rewarding way,” he confessed. “I got to see my kids all the time while working.”

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/jon-gosselin-kate-fight-missing-children/
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I think everyone is on board with that. In the beginning, the show did just that for this family that was truly struggling. The show was more organic, then it wasn't.
That's when Jon wanted out.
I'm sure Jon's grateful for the show-in the beginning- because it changed their lives in a good way in that they weren't struggling.
*******
They weren't struggling without the show! They didn't have one foot in the gutter, fearing daily that their children would go hungry or that their home would be taken away from them. They were perfectly comfortable and stable. It was sick how much they both took and even sicker that they EXPECTED things to be given to them. They expected people to spend their lives helping them.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

But of course that apartment would need a full RENOVATION with a spa bath, a chef kitchen with 2 ovens and 2 dishwashers and a garden tranquility maze. Like I said, another episode theme. How soon until
Kate thinks of this?

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For Gladys and Goody? Pick me off the floor, and not because I've emptied the keg. I am laughing so much here!

Kirkland said...

I found Beth Carson's website. Yes, she is very talented.

http://www.bethcarsondesign.com/mouna-mats/

redbird said...

This was too good not to share!

https://twitter.com/TheDailyEdge/status/692912452518940672

redbird said...

Lawyer talking about dos and don'ts in Jon and Kate's divorce. 7 years ago!

What a dingbat! I would never have this lawyer defending me.

https://youtu.be/XgD5MszaaXw

ncgirl said...

"Redbird, Golden Girls was one of the best sit-coms I've ever watched. Another one to add to our list of sad goodbyes."

Maybe the decks aren't lesbian. They're Lebanese instead.(another GG reference)

Leslie said...

Jon said on Steve Hardy he was earning $50,000 (around 2005 or so) working for the Governor (plus full benefits) and Kate was working as a part-time nurse. So she probably was earning at $30,000 minimum. An $80,000 salary with full benefits is NOT truly struggling. Yes they had 8 kids but they also had plenty of hand outs BEFORE the filming took place.

I think one of Jon and Kate's biggest mistakes was not filming in the earlier years but the vast number of episodes that they filmed. That amount of filming had to have hurt the discipline and behavior of their kids. And it no doubt added stress to their marriage. Add to that all the time they were away on many, many weekends giving talks for more money or getting more freebies. Again that added to them being away from their kids and their greediness.

I think if TV never entered the Gosselins life at all, that Jon and Kate could have never afforded getting divorced. There is no way they could have afforded it even with Kate working full-time as a nurse. I think they could have worked out their differences with counseling instead of a divorce had there been no TLC in their sights.

redbird said...

AuntieAnn said... 170
Redbird, Golden Girls was one of the best sit-coms I've ever watched. Another one to add to our list of sad goodbyes.

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Agree! I am watching it now. That is why I am so upset for the holidays. The Hallmark Channel puts itself in hostage mode for all of the Christmas movies. 24/7 for 2 months.

Several times in scenes I have noticed that all of the actors in the scene are dead except for Rose and the minister in this one. One was when Blanche was going to get married, the pilot episode, Dorothy, Blanche, Sophia, the minister, and the policeman that came to the door (Meshach Taylor from Designing Women) had passed away.

In the scene where Stan, Dorothy, Sophia go to the psychiatrist's office, the psychiatrist, played by Steven Landesberg, they are all dead.

I really liked Steven Landesberg and I loved Barney Miller!

redbird said...

ncgirl said... 176
"Redbird, Golden Girls was one of the best sit-coms I've ever watched. Another one to add to our list of sad goodbyes."

Maybe the decks aren't lesbian. They're Lebanese instead.(another GG reference)

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Yes, it will kill Rose if she finds out that
Danny Thomas is a lesbian!

swingsandroundabouts said...


reader said... 168

Dad has been pushed out of this child's life. Not by divorce, not by court orders, not by visitation denials or custody revocations. But by something much more devastating, much more destructive, and much more permanent. Orchestrated by someone whose actions – while remaining hidden from the public & immune from prosecution – have permitted them to inflict the most pain possible onto a loving parent by manipulating his children into believing he's not only unlikable, but despicable, worthy of abandoning.
Who does she think she's fooling?

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Yes, so well stated.

swingsandroundabouts said...

fidosmommy said ...

They would love it even more if Kate had a cranky neighbor 200 yards away to contend with too.

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Now that's a show I'd watch.

YouReapWhatYouSow said...

How long before Deanna gets kicked to the curb? Right now she is doing TFW's makeup and hair, providing meals from that store in NY, allegedly fixing TFW up for recent date, and NOW doing TFW's dirty work via Twitter?

It is simply horrifying how TFW kicks people to the curb who have done nothing but help her. But in this case, The Toadie has gone way overboard on Twitter discussing what the kids have allegedly said about Jon. We all know TFW had a hand in this, but Toadie's assertion that she spoke with the kids is worse, as she is blurting out private information that she has no right to discuss.

It amazes me that she could be so stupid, and willing to do TFW's bidding, ESPECIALLY about the kids. Guess she will have to learn the hard way like every other person who has entered TFW's life. And the numbers are high. Who is left other than people who are paid for services??

If Vann is still involved with her, he should run as fast as he can. Another of TFW's pawns, although he appears to be far smarter and savvy than Deanna.

E. said...

She said on this episode (and tweeted) that she has no pics from the NY trip, but she tweeted a photo in April of last year of the little girls in her bed. What's hanging above her bed in that photo? A giant, blown up (and crooked, I might add) picture of her and all the kids lined up along a wall when they were at the Statue of Liberty.

Is she that stupid, or does she think WE are?

http://twicsy.com/i/c9q7oi

Molly12 said...

She said on this episode (and tweeted) that she has no pics from the NY trip, but she tweeted a photo in April of last year of the little girls in her bed. What's hanging above her bed in that photo? A giant, blown up (and crooked, I might add) picture of her and all the kids lined up along a wall when they were at the Statue of Liberty.

Is she that stupid, or does she think WE are?

http://twicsy.com/i/c9q7oi

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OMG Great catch! Is she even capable of telling the truth?

TLC stinks said...

The only way Vann would agree to appear again is if TLC offered him a big fat paycheck. I think he got plenty of grief but even Jeff Prescott liked her and he's no dummy.

I do recall that picture of them in front of the Statue of Liberty and she's got her hot pants and heels on. She tells so many lies, she can't keep them straight.

As far as Deanna, she's not professional at all. TLC may be the only company that will be hiring her in the future. If I were a celebrity, I would not want my makeup person blabbing about my personal life or feeling they are part of my family. Deanna must be a lonely person.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

If Vann decided to go on a second date with TFW,
I can't imagine it's not another on-camera event.
He must be getting some kind of financial compensation for it. Or maybe he really got a thrill from being on TV. As rich and successful as he seems to be, it's not something you get the opportunity to do every day.

If none of the above is correct, my final theory is that he's actually physically attracted to TFW. In other words, he's only thinking with
his mini Vann...

TLC stinks said...

Of course, according to Kate, Mady was the only one watching with her:

@peterlucian_318 Mady is. And she's laughing at my reactions. She's cracking me up as usual with her funny comments too! @TLC #KatePlus8

JoyinVirginia said...

Stopping by to wave hello!
Tfmjg is still as boring as ever. Meanwhile, I am enjoying some really entertaining college basketball games. Check out Virginia Commonwealth University VCU vs. Davidson on ESPN2 tonight at six pm!

Lydia said...

Several times in scenes I have noticed that all of the actors in the scene are dead except for Rose and the minister in this one. One was when Blanche was going to get married, the pilot episode, Dorothy, Blanche, Sophia, the minister, and the policeman that came to the door (Meshach Taylor from Designing Women) had passed away.

That's kind of a morbid way to watch shows. But it could be a new drinking game.

TLC stinks said...

She's made it clear in her tweets that this was just the end of the season and they will be back, so since no snow pictures have been posted, they filmed. The crew could have stayed at the house that weekend. Nothing like crew daddies everywhere....

Did I read correctly she has a new big diamond ring? Thank you kids, for buying mommie that ring. Probably a bauble she picked up while in NYC.

Wowser said...

Omg!! Great catch...what a stupid liar!!

E. said... 183
She said on this episode (and tweeted) that she has no pics from the NY trip, but she tweeted a photo in April of last year of the little girls in her bed. What's hanging above her bed in that photo? A giant, blown up (and crooked, I might add) picture of her and all the kids lined up along a wall when they were at the Statue of Liberty.

Is she that stupid, or does she think WE are?

http://twicsy.com/i/c9q7oi

Anonymous said...

Off topic:
St. Tony sighting!

Did anyone happen to see last night's Extreme Makover? I was channel surfing and happened to see contestant Nyla getting a dance lesson from Tony Dovolani !!! He was glowing with smiles, and she was great! I guess he knew "how to teach" somebody!
Justin Time

FlimsyFlamsy said...

TLC stinks (#187), more damage control. M's comments aren't cruel or biting, they're funny!
My daughter is a riot! Please, Disney Channel,
give her her own show! I know years ago I told that modeling agent that I was too busy to schlep to NYC for auditions, but I was lying! Mama's retirement beach house ain't gonna pay for itself!

AuntieAnn said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 186
In other words, he's only thinking with his mini Vann...

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teehee.

I doubt Kate's gonna let him park it in her garage though. That space is reserved for Steve.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Stop the presses...TFW lied about something!

Deanna sure felt comfortable calling Jon a liar.
Is she too drunk on Kate Koolaid that she can't recognize when TFW lies, even when there's actual physical proof?

How about when TFW tweets things that contradict other things she's tweeted or said? Like the cupcake incident mentioned yesterday. On the show, she claimed the boys never even mentioned the cupcakes the next day -- meaning, it was much ado about nothing. But on Tuesday, she tweeted that they ate them the next day -- meaning, they finally got their treat, so all was forgiven. Which was it?

4rmine said...

E. said... 183

I believe in the show she was talking about the picture in front of the Statue of Liberty not in front of the water. They showed Kate and the kids jumping in for a quick picture in front of the statue. I'm pretty sure that it was that picture she was talking about in the show.

Mel said...

How long before Deanna gets kicked to the curb?

Funny, I was thinking the same thing yesterday. It won't be long now before Deanna disappears. She's reached the end of her useful life.

TLC stinks said...

Usually there is a photographer assigned to take photos while filming to use for publicity. There are photos from TLC. She is reaching out to fans to show she cares or she hasn't requested any pictures from TLC. Either way, she is a tool.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

TLC stinks (#197), yes, I think TFW is trying on her just-an-ordinary-mom persona again. She implied that "TON" of emails she got the other night (uh-huh, sure) was from other moms who related to her missteps and understood where she was coming from. Yes, we all know what it's like when one of our 2 RV's breaks down on our luxury vacation, and our kid gives our bodyguard pizza with her bare hands, and we just lose it!

TLC stinks said...

What's up with this Mady is so, so funny? Surely other people do not see any humor except for Milo, Kate or Deanna. Talk about deflecting. The girl is downright mean, sarcastic and Kate has no business laughing at her comments. I bet her classmates don't think she is funny.

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