Thursday, January 21, 2016

Recap: Kate Plus 8 'Green Thumb Gosselin': Woman that chainsaw because it's time for 'Kate Plus Kate.'

Coming up on Kate Plus 8! Kate has so many dreams she should really do a sleep study. Now she wants to undertake a major landscape project. I know you're shocked, but watching someone else landscape is even more boring than doing it yourself.

"This show should be called Kate Plus Kate," Leah says as she makes every hater's day. 

I think one of the most obnoxious comments a parent can make to a child is something along the lines of "when you're a parent one day you'll understand." Not that many parents aren't also guilty of it. I'm not sure adults realize how utterly patronizing it is, but it also is a sidestep to get around actually knowing, listening to and understanding your child and where they are coming from. It's a brush-off, and that's lazy parenting and just lazy life-ing. It's really for the child one day to realize it and approach their parent and say you know what, now I understand. That day will come, don't rush it.

Even funerals are conducted with the precision of the Schutzstaffel as they mass bury several dearly departed fish. Quick march! Unless you really dig deep some animal is going to dig that up within 48 hours. Gross. There's a heck of a lot of laughing and messing around from mostly Kate at this burial for a family pet. I find that disrespectful. Not to the fish, but to your children.

The landscape boy has a name, Eddie! Even Eddie seems skeptical about Kate's desire to involve the kids in this project. Kate says she doesn't like the word bribe, she prefers incentive. Makes no difference as long as the kids still film!

I don't know what Kate is doing with whatever unnecessary phallic kitchen gadget, but with that kind of impressive skill I don't know what's taking her so long to snag a man.

Cara lets it out that she usually rolls out of bed around noon. Mady too implies she slept late as well because she missed breakfast. While it's perfectly normal to sleep late at that age, it's also up to the responsible parent to not let them sleep that late and waste half the day. But I suspect with Kate it's just easier not to wake a kid up and have to deal with them, so sleep they can. Incidentally, that really puts the kibosh on any notion that the twins are some strange breed of teenager that don't need almost as much sleep as toddlers, according to science. Mady should not have been up late on a school night helping her mother tweet the creepy fans. She needs her sleep.

Hehe, karma. The boys are eating Kate out of house and home. They're just going to eat more, schmoopy has no idea. In short order Kate has the younger kids outside raking stones and doing other hard manual labor to some landscaping that looks fine the way it is. I don't even know the point of pushing all these stones around, they never explain. The kids get tired of it fast. Why is Hannah allowed to sit on the Gator and watch everyone else do hard labor?

Kate gets a dig in it her family. Why, when she was a kid she had to do hard labor every weekend. So? Doesn't mean your kids should have to do a giant project not suitable for them at all when you really should pay a landscaping company to do it. Don't be so damn cheap. Plus, in Kate's day, back in the day of walking to school uphill both ways, kids weren't nearly as busy as they are now. Kids now do far more work and are far more busy than a child raised in the 80's. Just all the homework the average child gets their age in one year is probably as much as Kate did in all four years of high school combined. Kate had time to help out with projects like this every weekend. A kid in 2016 doesn't.

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with chores within reason, but expecting kids to give up a whole weekend doing back-breaking labor is unfair. What's more, they can afford to pay someone now when I assume Kate's family couldn't. Why shouldn't they? Bottom line, this stinks of an episode idea and but for the cameras I really doubt they'd be out here at all, and that's wrong.

Now Alexis has found a way onto the Gatar and is not working. The boys notice. Poor guys. How come Kate doesn't tell those girls to get off their butts and help out? It can't be that she has a problem giving orders. If they have to do this stupid project at least everyone should have to equally.

Colin is sitting on the couch but not saying anything as usual this season. But the look on his face this time tells me he is engaged and making good eye contact with the producer. He is by no means zoned out. However, he's sitting there, mouth closed, not speaking. And he will talk when the cameras are rolling out and about, he does in this episode, it's just not as often as the other kids. He speaks and explains things just fine, though. I know many have speculated about the various causes of him acting like this, but could there be a very simple explanation? Isn't it possible the child is offering up a silent protest by refusing to be interviewed? For some reason that never occurred to me before.

Coming up, caught in the sudden and precipitous highs and lows of a hormonal set of teenagers, poor TFW has struck out once again. Heh.

After what feels like hours Kate finally explains they're trying to clear all the stone from the front of the house. I still have no idea what's wrong with the stone at the front of the house. Joel worked at raking the best, so Kate puts Joel on the Gatar to drive the stones across the property. Kate makes a point to say she hardly ever lets the kids drive the Gatar out of safety of course. Wait, wasn't this their birthday present one year or something? Well that seems more than slightly dysfunctional, giving a child a present they can't even use. Like giving Grandpa a skateboard.

They dump the rocks on a horse path out back that seems to me already has many stones and gravel on it. The camera crew is using drones now and like a kid with a new Christmas toy the drone shots are probably on the extraneous side. Heh.

The girls seem annoyed the boys got to drive. Well, suck it up buttercups, they actually worked.

Kate's got some guy over showing her how to use a chain saw. Oh good grief. This is just absurd at this point. She has no business manning a chain saw. I have no business manning a chain saw. If Kate and I were supposed to man a chainsaw they would call it womaning. They don't! I don't care if that's sexist, but unless you're Sue Aikins and live on a remote airport outpost in the Alaskan tundra, you need to hire someone for something that involves power tools like this and get back to the kitchen. Even the 11-year-olds have more sense than Kate and instruct her not to embark on this.

By the way, I am a big Sue Aikins fan, and I think young photographer Joey L. took some absolutely stunning portraits of her a couple years back. Trust your photographer!

Oops, forgot to pause my DVR. In the time it took me to answer an emergency text from my girlfriend (boyfriend emergency type thing) guess what? Nothing important or interesting happened.

Here comes Leah's now infamous "Kate Plus Kate" comment, and I think it's important to hear it in context. She explains that Kate gets to do everything on this show, including using a chainsaw which is fun. While her remarks are not entirely true, they're a lot true. There are a lot of things Kate gets to enjoy without the kids. There are always various excuses why the kids can't participate in something she's doing. Leah is a mere two steps away from realizing why Kate embarked on this fame thing in the first place. Not for the kids and their fun and enjoyment and financial health. But for hers. The kids receiving some incidental benefits is just a convenient cover for Kate.

Commercials. We're back and they're off to the garden center. Shoka is a dog who misbehaves. It's not his fault. He barks hysterically at the van as they roll out, and he comes dangerously close to the tires chasing it. Sigh. That's lazy dog ownership, period. If you've really tried everything and your dog still goes into hysterics at your car, the dog needs to be put elsewhere when you pull in and out. Be a responsible dog owner or don't get a dog. Rant over.

Mady and Cara again opt out of the 6 a.m. call time for this nonsense. I guess no bribe, er I mean incentive, worked this time. I wonder what Kate is going to do when she has eight teenagers who aren't about to set their alarm for 6 a.m. to look at plants. Then it might really be Kate Plus Kate. Watch Kate rake stones by herself? Watch Kate pick out plants by herself? Watch Kate order about herself and talk back to herself? That might be fun karma.

Is that Eddie again? He's kind of cute, and has a good job. Why doesn't Kate date him? Oh darn just spotted a wedding ring.

The kids don't want to be here. Hannah says she's tired and Joel is outright scowling. I again feel the kids are justified in this. Picking out landscaping is an adult activity, unless you have a budding botanist--pun intended! Alas, none of these kids could plant their way off Mars or even their own back yard.



Bring him home! Again!

I understand many parents have to take their kids everywhere even amid whining and misery because they can't get a babysitter or their spouse is not home to babysit or maybe they're a single parent. But Kate is not one of those parents who takes her kids everywhere because she has to or they all just enjoy the company. They are often home while she's out and about doing things adults do, the pap photos prove it. Plus she has a nanny named Andrea and has had a nanny since they were babies. I simply don't believe Kate would bother to drag them along on any of this but for the cameras.

At least the kids perk up a little over the little lamb's ears plants, which just looks like a regular old plant to me.

Back at the house stupid Kate didn't check the weather report before planning a cookout. Either that or they had to do this today because production was coming over, which seems more likely. Speaking of Andrea there she is, apparently on egg duty. Might I recommend weather.gov (not weather.com) for an hour by hour very accurate weather report for your cookouts. It will even tell you the level of cloud cover, and it's iPhone browser friendly.

I don't know what Kate needs a deck for. She has all the kids hauling all the food outside, it doesn't have to inconvenience her a bit.

This is not a sprinkle. It's raining buckets and it's thundering. But because Kate is pathologically stubborn she gets the grill out anyway. I haven't the first clue why she has the kids outside on their open lawn shucking corn. Where there's thunder there's lightning. This is incredibly dangerous and no set teacher worth their license would allow it.

I'm not sure Kate realizes that hobo really has become an offensive term to lots of people. While I understand you might still say it around your family, why would you say it on national TV? But then Kate is ignorant.

We spend an inexplicably long time discussing what Kate is going to do about grilling now that it's pouring. My suggestion is to cut to the chase and shit or get off the pot. Either grill or don't grill, but pick one for Christ sake. Nothing interesting is happening except Kate calls Joel a "dumb-dumb." That's awful. Also, not accurate. She's the dumb-dumb.

Kate is suddenly freaking out on Cara, who doesn't understand why Kate is yelling at her. Neither do I, I totally missed it nor do I care.

I shouldn't recap when I'm hungry. This is one of the first meals Kate's fixed up that is something I really want to eat. She's got nice thick steaks on the grill sizzling away, along with a wonderful mix of red and green peppers and onions. Medium rare please. Let it rest. Slice that steak up against the grain and put this all on a baguette with some gooey melted provolone cheese and you've got my death row last meal.

Kate finally admits Andrea is the summer babysitter. I think it's appropriate to insert a "duh" here. She really thinks viewers are dumb-dumbs. Everyone knew Andrea's role already. The first few episodes Kate misleadingly tried to imply Andrea just showed up on this or that day because Kate called her up to see if she was available. Real casual like. As a rule, I don't like dishonest or misleading people. I don't understand why Kate's always been so damn reluctant to admit she takes advantage of and can afford full time in-home childcare i.e. a nanny. And yet, she allows these people to be seen on camera over and over where we can see for ourselves they're over there all the time. I think it's fair to say we see the nanny with the children far more than we don't see her. It seems like such a paradox. It wouldn't be hard at all to omit the nanny from the episodes, yet Kate doesn't. Weird.

Kate gives Shoka a huge pile of people food when they're done. God, she's the worst.

Commercials. Oh by the way, we never saw the little spat between the twins and Kate advertised before the last segment. Which means it must be coming later in the episode. There is something very creepy about the idea that you would hype up a conflict with 14 year old children over several segments. Stay tuned, don't go away! The Dionnes will be back for another viewing at a quarter past the hour! The best is yet to come!

We're back. More drone fun. I think it's funny how hodge podge these episodes have become. Just shuttle the family around to various activities and see if conflict develops. Now, out of the blue, Kate's yoga teacher comes to the house to teach the kids yoga. Yoga poses hurt and I can't imagine it would be made any better doing a private lesson on the lawn next to your mansion. The problems of the 1%. Collin looks really (quietly) proud of himself for doing a handstand. Aw. I don't like how Mady is sitting on a mat but refusing to participate. It's rude.

For gaming fans, the funniest yoga session I've seen was in Grand Theft Auto V. Loll. 

Finally the people who should be planting the plants, the landscaping company, come over.

Ha-ha, this is getting so random! Next we're doing a lemonade stand? They want to do one for the landscape workers. Are they going to charge for this, because that's pretty tacky. I hope not.

I noticed the sign also says "and lunch." All due respect to them but I wouldn't go eating some home-cooked lunch a strange family provided to me. It weirds me out.

In an eerie throwback to the Jon days, Kate snaps at Joel that she wants him to say "hey Mommy, can I help you with anything?" Joel looks both confused and very upset, not replying. She then snorts, "One way you can help me is by staying out of my way!" My God, what a f-ing bitch!

When will the kids be allowed to call her "Mom" by the way? This Mommy thing is getting just silly.

For some reason Kate decides now it's time to show off and remove a wasp nest, which should be the landscape workers' job. Does she have any idea how to use wasp spray? It shoots really far, you don't need to get as close as she got. Hehe, she drops her phone and cracks the screen. Karma!!! That will set you back at least a hundred bucks and that's if you're willing to go to a unofficial Apple store. What a doofus.


Eddie brings his wife Lori over. Oh gosh she's adorable, and great with kids! She looks them dead in the eyes and asks them questions. She acts interested, probably because she actually is. They need so many more people like her in their lives. She reminds me of a brunette Laura Dern. She helps the kids plant the lamb's ears. Some of the kids are wearing weird Stevie Wonder sunglasses.

Collin is speaking on the couch, and explains how to plant a plant. While this is very boring, it's nice to see him speaking up finally and he sounds happy.

Kate works up a few tearless tears just like Farrah and says she's happy the kids were so happy to get involved. Is it a prerequisite of a narcissist that you must be an ugly crier?


Coming up, they're still pitching the conflict between Kate and the twins as if it will be in the next segment. Maybe it will finally be in this one.

The kids serve the workers lemonade and lunch, which looks like ordered sub sandwiches. Fair enough. Lori is incredibly good with children. She continues to ask the children good questions like she's interested in them, such as if you had some free time what would you do. That's a great conversation starter with a child. The kids are eager to answer. I have never seen Kate sit down with her children, look them in the eyes, and truly have a conversation with them. Lori helps Collin speak some Spanish to one of the workers, and he's so proud of himself.

We're back the next day and now the kids couldn't be more into this project. I find it interesting although not surprising that with Kate this was all scowls and peace out. But now that someone cool and good with kids like Lori is there, they couldn't be more enthusiastic. Even Collin is talking up a storm, unlike any other episode this season. So in actuality it wasn't the planting itself that they objected to. It was who they were going to do the project with. An adult who knows how to be with children makes all the difference in the world to a child and their willingness and enthusiasm. Kate sucks at it, and she probably always will, and she will continue to have to battle her children on every little thing because she has no idea how to be with kids. Naturally Kate is clueless about why they are suddenly into this but is proud of them. I think she actually takes credit for this sudden blossoming herself. What a fool. I don't know about their indiscriminate affection toward a worker they only just met as they give him big bear hugs, but at least they are enjoying their day.

Coming up! The conflict between Kate and the twins, which was supposed to be in the past four segments. Heh.

Kate is ridiculously proud of herself for ordering each of the kids gardening stones with their names on them and a graphic like a snail. Sometimes I get embarrassed for her. The younger kids actually adore the gift, because they're young enough that this isn't too babyish yet. But even without all the build up I can picture the teens finding this downright stupid.

And here it comes. On Cara's stone Kate had inscribed "It's mine. Stay off of it. I warned you about it." Mady's says "Don't step here! Don't say I didn't warn you about it!"

Kate thinks this was an inside joke among them. Her first mistake was ever thinking she is on the inside of the joke with a teenager. She's one of those adults, and it's obnoxious. It's funny and sad to picture Kate as she spent God knows how many hours ordered these, probably on Home Depot's web site. You know she had this fantasy as she clicked her mouse of the twins opening their stones to giggles and smiles and "thank you, Mommy!" They group hug as the birds tweet and the sunlight warms their heads, and she is the bestest most coolest Mommy of teens ever! 

Cue the Price is Right "wa-wa-wa-woo. wooooooo!" sound effect as Schmoopy way underbid on that boat.



The teens are being real brats about how much they hate the gift. They don't even want the stones to be put out. A tiny part of me feels bad for Kate. She looks really bummed that this blew up. She really did make an effort to do something nice for the children, even if she did it just to pat herself on the back. This is something they could each have of their own in the new landscaping. Mady and Cara could grow up and just suck this up and say thank you. They don't have to play with it for pity sake or even ever look at it again.  Hate to break it to them but chances are like many mothers she's going to give them a lot of bad gifts over their lifetime they don't like or get. But as you get older you start to understand that it's the old cliche it's the thought that counts, and that it's cruel to make Mom feel bad just because she sucks at being clairvoyant. They are old enough now to start developing that.

On the flip side, I think Kate could have saved a lot of bridges by involving the twins in this secret gift. Have them help her design stones for the younger children and as a reward they can each design their own stone. It would make the twins feel special and worthy of more privilege because they are older, and then they couldn't complain about their stones. But she doesn't have foresight.

And here's where my allegiance shifts back to the twins. Kate's still arguing with them about this, trying to reason with them. Let it go. They don't like the stones, they're being ungrateful and bratty, but give them their space to sulk about it and ignore them. I promise they'll be over this within hours. And here's her stupid comment about how Mady will understand one day when Mady is a parent. That couldn't be a more infuriating thing to say. She antagonizes them and I think she knows it and what's more, likes to. Cara spits that they're never having kids because they don't like each other. Sigh.

Sure enough on the couch Mady and Cara are now saying, presumably days or even weeks later, that they're over it. Lol. I mean, it's still dumb, they explain, and never very funny, but they've moved on. Of course they have. They're teenagers.

Kate also got stakes for the kids with their names on they can stick next to their plants. I like that.

The younger kids at least seem proud of what they accomplished. They were lucky they had nice employees engaging with them.

They show this weird outtake of the twins on the couch fighting about how they should stop saying stupid things or go faster. It's neither funny nor interesting. It's just awkward. I continue to worry that if these episodes keep showing the children saying such dumb and uninteresting things, they might actually think those very same things were important to say. And that's bad.

On the next episode. Kate, who doesn't work and hasn't worked in a decade now, and has an army of paid help to do everything for her, has trouble carving out special time for the children. Heh.

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Gigi Be said...

Ratings are in:

1.079 mil

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Ratings are in:

1.079 mil

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Wow! Given this was supposed to be the pinnacle episode that's great news. Ratings DROPPED from the past couple weeks. They were lucky to break a million.

I was going to say there's no way they're going to get the 2 million James predicted but I didn't want to jinx it.

localyocul said...

OMG what a burn with that brick comment. I was thinking, imagine being a guy expecting a VERY hot blonde and in walks someone with fake blonde hair, acne, and cankles. I'm sure Deanna thinks it's just the twitter haters who don't like her bestie...she should read that thread...

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Admin lol well i didn't want to jinx it either admin cause i remember i got cocky weeks ago and said none of the specials would get over a million then they got at least 1 million.So i decided to make a crazy prediction and say "Yeah obviously alot people want to watch Kate go on a date.But thank God i was wrong.I sometimes love it when im wrong.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Great recap, Admin! Always a treat to read them.
And I can tell you have a blast writing them!

Anonymous said...

Thanks to Admin for another great recap - now that is entertainment!! Much more entertaining than actually watching the show. You are spot on with your analysis of this family's dysfunction.

bm

TLC stinks said...

The pizza baking...Kate has a double oven and probably convection too which cooks fast. Gee Andrea, don't give Kate any grifting ideas.

Great recap. The twins are a mess.

Yes, the brick comment was a big fat burn. Glad it was explained. Like I said on the previous post, Kate looked like a tranny.

Well, I think, because of the steady ratings, she'll manage a Sweet Sixteen episode and oh my, that will be terrible for the twins. Sorry, but those girls are totally obnoxious.

FotK said...

If you were planning on being considered for "Saw 8" wouldn't you sharpen your chainsaw skills?

AuntieAnn said...

I continue to worry that if these episodes keep showing the children saying such dumb and uninteresting things, they might actually think those very same things were important to say.

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Strangely enough that's exactly what's kept their egocentric mother in front of the camera for the last ten years.

It absolutely boggles the mind that she's gotten away with it for so damn long. And now her kids are doing the same thing.

GiGi said...

Yes she will definitely get a show for rude teens turning Sweet Sixteen which will only make them more rude and entitled. She will also get a show for the "littles" turning 13. Also a show for the twins learning to drive. So on and on it will go, unfortunately. Ugh!

Formerly Duped said...

TLC stinks said... 7

Great recap. The twins are a mess
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Agree on both counts. Cara has become very bitter, cynical and absent; also seems to dislike Mommy- remember when she wouldn't let her hug her, or when she yelled at her when they were playing that pumpkin smashing game.

Mady is really rude and downright selfish and mean, from what we see. I hope both have redeeming qualities! That 'die alone' about her mother comment was chilling.

I do enjoy the recaps- I have been watching these on the Daily Motion site posted here rather than on TV on demand so I can whiz through using FF.

redbird said...

Whistle...Applause!!!

Great Recap, Admin.

You are right. TFW should of worked with Mady and Cara to help design the tup stones and they could of done their own. But it is possible that TFW knew they would each have a meltdown about it for a ratings rush.

AuntieAnn said...

(from the previous thread)

Tucker's Mom said... 46
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The kernel of truth is probably that Vann hadn't watched the show prior to signing up for this "date", but he sure as heck vetted Kate Gosselin and her show before filming.

C'mon!

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Oh I agree. I'm sure he did vet Kate before the actual filming, but the point is that Deanna said she wasn't forthcoming about WHO the blind date was in the beginning. My guess is he wasn't the first guy she tried to line up on a blind date with Kate. The other fuckity hundred she asked probably turned her down at the mention of Kate's name, so she more or less entrapped this Vann person by not telling him who the date was with. That's just mean. He should sue TLC. And Deanna. And Kate. ha!

Jamesvader1194 said...

@TLC stinks you could be right.But at the least she didn't get the views to the point where i don't think TLC will give her a full show anymore.Yes they'll probably still film a sweet 16 and some others.I don't think they'll do a sweet 16 birthday for the 6 though,cause mady and cara will be gone,and kate plus 6 doesn't really have a ring to it.I don't believe Kate hold it over the twins at 18.

foxy said...

I really can't blame Andrea for being grumpy. Those kids are horrible, constantly yelling, screaming, hitting and fighting. Why did I think it was Hannah feel the need to hit at Collin when they were making the pizzas? That poor kid took off to avoid being hit. Those kids have no respect for each other, themselves, their home, theor nanny.....nothing. I am one of 12 children and that never would have happened in our home.

Get medicated....... said...

From the last thread. I'm not on Twitter so it wasn't me that called him out about wearing a WR, just FYI :-)

PA Dutch Mom said...

From the previous thread...

Ol' reliable Gladys found an opportunity to bash Jon again. As I always say, she doesn't give half a damn about the G kids. Not sure how she's already managed to judge that Vann's character is "lightyears" ahead of Jon's just by watching about 5 minutes of footage of him scarfing down Italian food. But I watched years of Jon caring for 8 small children with love, gentleness and kindness, and that told me plenty about his character.

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Gladys bash Jon? Nah, a good southern, go-to-Sunday-meetings Christian woman with only kindness, goodness and positivity in her heart would never lower herself to such a thing.

I really wish that Milo would be able to spend a day here observing Jon with the kids, the hugs, his love for them, his warmness, nurturing, emotional support, caring and just being a dad. Jon actually has fun with his kids. Kate sees them as a commodity. I think maybe she might have her eyes open to a few things. Then again, Jon is the villain, the ex-from-hell who made life miserable for her beloved Kate, and nothing would ever change that opinion. Her mind is made up, and her eyes closed to anything that would even suggest that Jon isn't the evil enemy who made life hell for Kate and the kids.

Vann may be highly educated with a very impressive background, experience, pedigree, and social status, and I guess to the sheep, that's what it's all about. He's probably a good guy. But Jon is light years ahead of all that when it comes to being a loving hands-on dad who is trying to be a good role model for his kids by showing them that growing up with an attitude of entitlement isn't going to get them very far, but a strong work ethic will. Yes he has made mistakes in the past when he broke free from Kate; even his appearance with Liz on a reality show was not, in my opinion, a wise decision, but one thing is certain -- his concern and love for the well-being of his kids has always been there.

Going to read the recap now, and then off to fight the feeding frenzy at the grocery storm in advance of the impending two-foot storm.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Wow! Given this was supposed to be the pinnacle episode that's great news. Ratings DROPPED from the past couple weeks. They were lucky to break a million.

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Wasn't TLC promoting it as the television event of the year, or something like that? I wonder if they are running around with their tail between their legs, saying 'what happened?'

Kate is a twit said...

I find it so ironic that the episode which was touted as the "event of the season" and which was very heavily promoted got less viewers than the 3 previously aired shows.


TLC stinks said...

PA Dutch Mom... me too!

Kate is a twit said...

Someone questioned Milo why she didn't defend Kate's kids when people were bashing them on twitter.

Larry Bird ‏@bird_susieq · 24h24 hours ago
@MiloandJack why dont you step up and defend kates kids the things people are sayingvabout them awful

And Milo replied:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack · 21h21 hours ago
@bird_susieq I did what I could during last show..I can't police twitter 24/7 & besides sometimes it just draws atten. 2it & makes it worse.

She lies just like Kate. As far as I can tell, she has never stood up for the kids. She'll jump to Kate's defense in a nanosecond. She'll bash Jon, have twitter convos with Deanna about the "trolls" and "haters", but not once have I ever seen her stand up to anyone calling the kids names.

For her it's all about and will forever be about Kate.

redbird said...

The reporter says didn't one of the kids file papers to be emancipated?

http://www.wccbcharlotte.com/video/the-snark-reality-tv-returns-and-hoverboards-are-banned/

FlimsyFlamsy said...

KIAT (#21), yes, it's all about TFW. It would take Gladys the same amount of energy to tweet something kind about the kids that it does for her to suck up to her beloved. She seems to have all the time in the world to joke around about Zorro and Deckster and Shokie. She wasn't too busy Friday night to butt into a conversation between TFW, Jamie and Deanna to suggest a twitter party.
But she's not interested in the kids' welfare. Her heart belongs to TFW.

redbird said...

Batten down the patches, PA!

Read your expecting 12-18 inches of snow.

FW, get ready for #SuperFunDeckster

Blowing In The Wind said...

Get medicated....... said... 16
From the last thread. I'm not on Twitter so it wasn't me that called him out about wearing a WR, just FYI :-)

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I know what you mean. There are times that I chuckle when things either I or others have said here that are repeated almost verbatim on Kate's TL. I don't have Twitter and never will.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Yes they'll probably still film a sweet 16 and some others.I don't think they'll do a sweet 16 birthday for the 6 though,cause mady and cara will be gone,and kate plus 6 doesn't really have a ring to it.

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If (and that's a big IF) those kids are of any interest to the viewing public by the time they turn 16, I would expect that TLC would fly the twins home from whatever college they are attending. A big family reunion special for the younger kids' 16th birthday just might bring in the viewers, especially if the twins have not been seen on television on a regular basis if they are away at college.

Blowing In The Wind said...

But it is possible that TFW knew they would each have a meltdown about it for a ratings rush.

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How could she possibly know that? Kate can't think that far ahead, and moreover, it's likely that she thought that she was doing something that they might actually like.

NOIP said...

Blowing In The Wind said... 25 That goes both ways. I've seen tweets that have been copied "verbatim" from Twitter on to this blog. And usually anything that comes from here gets credit on Twitter.

Gigi Be said...

Jon announced on his Instagram that he will be guest staring on the Steve Harvey show on January 25. SH show it titled " where are they now?".

fidosmommy said...

I didn't watch, nor will I. That doesn't make me a better person than those who did, but it sure makes me a happier one. ;) TV should be entertaining, not dull as dirt.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Jon announced that he's going to be on the Steve Harvey show on Monday.

chefsummer #Leh said...

I haven't watched any of the past K8 and I'm glad that I didn't.

Jane said...

Nice to see you, chefs!

TLC stinks said...

Maybe Jon will have some news.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Howdy, Chef! I hope 2016 is treating you well.

Math Girl said...

fidosmommy said... 30
I didn't watch, nor will I. That doesn't make me a better person than those who did, but it sure makes me a happier one. ;) TV should be entertaining, not dull as dirt.
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I can't watch because I have a new cable package sans TLC. It doesn't make me a better person than those who did, but it makes me a richer one.

The recaps (Admin's and others, especially Radar's) are much more entertaining than watching.

jamezvader1194 said...

Don't think Jon will say anything that'll steer up fans like Gladys.I just think he'll tell people about his relationship with the kids/his girlfriend and his D.J job.

AuntieAnn said...

chefsummer #Leh said... 31

Jon announced that he's going to be on the Steve Harvey show on Monday.

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Oh that ought to be good. Steve Harvey loves talking about all his ex'es lol. He'll drag something out of Jon for sure.

Thought you might have accidentally fallen into the Hobart mixer, Chef. Good to hear from you!

AuntieAnn said...

Math Girl said... 36

I can't watch because I have a new cable package sans TLC.

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Some people have all the luck.

I am one of Eight said...

Story up on Radar of Jon talking about custody of kids. Says he hasn't seen his son in a year and a half. Though he says sometimes gets them at bus so why he can't get them all at bus or at least talk to him at bus, not sure why.

chefsummer #Leh said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 35

It going well minus the winter here in Chicago.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Thought you might have accidentally fallen into the Hobart mixer, Chef. Good to hear from you!
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Nah I do all my mixing by hand lol. I just pulled myself out of TLC's black-hole of BS-ing.-(which is super hard)

NOIP said...

Just a FYI... McStupid not only has to pay $1.3 million to a couple a guys he tried to shut up, he has to place an apology on his website for 365 days Hahahahaaaaaa...we knew he'd attack the wrong (or in this case) person one day.

http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/01/15/1-3-million-in-anti-slapp-sanctions.htm

Gigi Be said...

Chef- you're from Chicago? Same here. Thankfully we haven't had too many below zero days, but this past Sunday was brutal.

I wonder if Jon was referring to Colin. What's the deal with the custody arrangement?

Layla said...

I am one of 8 (40)

If Jon is talking about Collin (and I'm sure he is), it is very likely that Collin does not go to school with the other kids. Kate has admitted that Collin has issues, and he may be in a different school, or he may even be tutored. We don't know, but it seems like Kate has aways kept Collin away from his dad.

fidosmommy said...

That Radar article above sounds very familiar, like it's a repeat only with the kids' ages updated. It just rings old to me.

High Sodium Content said...

I watched a bit of the beginning of the date show, the getting ready part. I just couldn't look at Deanna. She is no where near attractive. She says she gets lots of comments on her appearance, maybe from 90 year old grandpas. She has the nerve to comment about other twitter's profile pics or lack of. Hers has to be 15 years old. She is fugly now. The long, dark hair and bangs, no way does she know how to do hair. Kate's skin is horrific, I keep wanting to pop that damn zit on her cheek.

I find it hard to fathom the twins go on camera w/o having makeup, concealer on. Kate's hygiene habits, washing sheets once or twice a month sure is not helping. And what's with Ms. OCD's closet. I've never claimed to even be organized, never mind OCD and my closet is in better condition than hers. All the mismatched hangers, unorganized piles of cloths, no sorting of like clothes together. There goes that myth again. (Opps, almost forgot the paragraph police.) Insert paragraphs.

Vann has now buttoned up his FB account along w/ his friend Cory, after 11 comments, comments are closed. I think they should have given him a false name - it's now his fault his was suckered into this "date". No need to harass him. Her FB fans seem to think they had a "great connection" - didn't see that part, cant' wait for the recap Admin.

I saw a few wks back that Jon was in the Steve Harvey studio - forgot about that. I think it was on his Instagram.

Note to self - pat on the back for paragraphs. LOL

PatK said...

Apparently, Jon's Steve Harvey appearance was already taped and this is where the story is coming from about him not having seen "his son" in over a year and a half....and that he hasn't seen all his kids together in three years.

That lousy bitch!

Anonymous this time. said...

She is without compassion. The kinder gentler is for tv only. Still no contact with any family on either side, nearly certain of that.

(A local with PCOS who wonders why she did nothing for the local
community or PCOS fund raising/awareness)

High Sodium Content said...

Rainbirdie said... 194
Kate & Deanna leave the house in the limo and there is a lovely overhead shot - from the sky looking down

I'd guess they used a drone - seem to be everywhere these days. Lots of use in the real estate market. I didn't watch past the first few minutes of the show, so just a guess.

jamezvader1194 said...

@I am one of eight,if thats true then grab your popcorn guys and girls cause sooner or later Glady's and co are going to be off their meds and go on a rant about how bad of a father Jon is and kiss Kate's butt in the progress.

Anonymous said...

I too wonder if Jon was referring to Collin. He says they do not co-parent, they communicate through the Court and he never knows who he will be picking up when he stops by on his custody days. I would hardly call that a custody "arrangement".

bm

foxy said...

I hope Collin gets to escape from that hell hole before the damage cannot be repaired. A court of law should be able to enforce that Kate cooperate on custody. I hope one day she gets her comeuppance and she will be pay for all of her hatefulness.

What man would really want her? The look on the face of Vann a few times on the date sure told the truth about the experience. Being a graduate of the Naval Academy he is designated an Officer and a Gentleman. There were a few times on the date where it appeared he was holding back on laughing at her lack of comprehension on many subjects. All she could talk about is 8 kids...she is not the only one to have 8 kids. When people find out what she is they have nothing to do with her.

Formerly Duped said...

Wow, sad about Collin if that's true. He looks like he needs his dad.

Anonymous said...

OMG Milo has really pissed me off today. How DARE she tweet about Mr Glenn Frey and...implying Khate is involved. Eagles are MY band milo jack ass. Back the hell off

Pam

Terri said...

I have always liked Jon but there seems to be something totally off here. There is absolutely no reason why he shouldn't be seeing ALL of his children. It can't be that he's unfit because then he wouldn't be seeing any of his kids. I just wish his attorney would get her ass down to that courthouse and get his visitation with ALL of his kids. Kate should be held in contempt.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

What a piece of work TFW is. She keeps a child away from his father, then complains that all of her children are never gone all at the same time.
Deprives C, deprives Jon, and gets to play victim,
and I do believe she gets pleasure from all of it.

Jeremy said...

My thoughts on the stones - it sounded like the sayings for the twins were from private jokes that had been shared between Mady, Cara and Marley - that Kate was privy to the joking - but they were private jokes between 3 teens. And it had to be upsetting to see something private that you shared with your mom for laughs now on TV for your other friends and classmates to see. Their response was rude, but heartfelt - how dare you take something private and make a tv moment out of it. Even this week, Kate overshared that the girls talk about dating and boys, and when certain boys' names come up, the conversation tone shifts . . . the girls don't want this private info shared with their school.

Sherry Baby said...

Just a FYI... McStupid not only has to pay $1.3 million to a couple a guys he tried to shut up, he has to place an apology on his website for 365 days Hahahahaaaaaa...we knew he'd attack the wrong (or in this case) person one day.

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I saw that on viaview a few weeks ago and someone posted it here, too. While I still don't understand who is suing whom or all of the players in that whole fiasco, I see that his internet/twitter minions are still supporting him, shades of Jim Jones. I don't know how smart they are, but there's one thing...they are loyal doofi.

Sad but true said...

If Jon hasn't seen Collin in 18 months, that means he isn't even getting to see him on holidays. How can Kate get away with this? Even if the argument is that he's old enough to make a choice about this, wouldn't that also mean they're old enough to make a choice on filming? At least in the eyes of the court? And wouldn't the court make it a point to interview these kids one on one to find out their views? Something is majorly f'd up here. I still cannot believe that after all this time, they've never had a guardian ad litem appointed to oversee both their general well-being AND their finances.

redbird said...

Hey, chefsummer! Good to hear from you!

That is wonderful about Jon being on Steve Harvey. I hope Jon shines!

redbird said...

Snow measurement adjustment PA Dutch mom and TLC stinks to 2 feet!

We are expecting 1 1/2 to 2 inches of snow here.

jamezvader1194 said...

Sorry but i really don't know.Why is jon talking about this on an interview instead of taking Kate to court on this?Isn't she breaking the law?Why complain about it in an interview?

Lanc Native said...

OMG Milo has really pissed me off today. How DARE she tweet about Mr Glenn Frey and...implying Khate is involved. Eagles are MY band milo jack ass. Back the hell off...Pam 55.

))))))))))

Yes, Gladys does have a tendency to raise some blood pressures! Look at it this way -- at least you're not her neighbor.

Maybe she will back off with the approaching monster storm to worry about. Relax, Gladys. Don't get your Depends in an uproar. Kate should get a max of eight inches (AuntieAnn...don't even think it!), while we're under a Winter Storm Warning for a foot and a half or more. The governor declared a State of Emergency.

The storm will slow things down in her area, but watch for the SuperFunJonas tweets that she is totally snowed in and #Deckster is holding his own. Pictures, Kate pictures!

localyocul said...

Doesn't Jon go to school activities? How does he not see Collin there? I can't imagine any judge putting up with a mother refusing to let dad see the kids.

Formerly Duped said...

Hey, just thought of something. Didn't Jon see Collin the day of that yard sale? He drove off with all the kids? I forget the details or when this was taped, but I know there was some discussion if he took Collin as well as the other kids.

I am one of Eight said...

On the Kateplusmy8 facebook page, they put up a video from the dating show but the frozen shot is of her totally unorganized messy thing of of a closet, too funny!

Kate is a twit said...

Formerly Duped said... 66
Hey, just thought of something. Didn't Jon see Collin the day of that yard sale? He drove off with all the kids? I forget the details or when this was taped, but I know there was some discussion if he took Collin as well as the other kids.
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The yard sale was on Oct. 25, 2014.

I just checked Jon's Instagram account and the picture he posted where he's at the Steve Harvey show is date Nov. 19, 2015. So this appearance was taped a few months ago.

If he saw Collin at the yard sale, I don't see how he could say he hasn't seen him in a year and a half.

Here's Jon's Instagram post. Hover over where it says 9w and you'll see the date it was posted.

https://www.instagram.com/p/-SB9ddyF4J/

Sherry Baby said...

Why is jon talking about this on an interview instead of taking Kate to court on this?

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Jon may very well be in court over this and may have been for some time.

redbird said...

If Jon actually says that he has not seen his son in almost 2 years, get ready FW. The audience will gasp very loud.

The outrage will be swift and hard.

Tucker's Mom said...

By the by, Admin, another great recap!

The ennui was palpable.

swimgirl said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Watching news scares you to death about it! #Weather Says NE may be shut down for 3days! How do you stock up for 8kids?
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Dear Gladys, The Reading area is forecasted to get 6-12 inches. She will be able to get to stores on Sunday and the kids will be back in school on Monday.

This woman/person needs a geography lesson. Plus, doesn't TFW have multiple freezers?

Lanc Native said...

Dear Gladys, The Reading area is forecasted to get 6-12 inches. She will be able to get to stores on Sunday and the kids will be back in school on Monday....swimgirl 72.

)))))))))))

lol! Gladys, it's DC that will be hit the worst. Kate is not in DC right now as far as we know.

The total amounts depend on to whom you listen. I just checked the updated forecasts and she's in the four to eight zone. I figured Gladys would be on this like a fly on a dung pile. Kate will emerge from this like a super hero as far as Milo is concerned. Brave Kate risks her own life to ensure the safety of her children in the face of the storm of the century. Details on the 11 p.m. news.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Swimgirl (#72), Gladys' over-the-top concern is so predictable, isn't it? TFW doesn't work -- she's had all day every day this week to stock up on supplies
for her many freezers.

Tucker's Mom said...

How can it possibly be that a judge hasn't compelled Kate to hand over ALL of Jon's kids? I'm really at a loss. How can a parent not comply for that long, and why has or can't Jon get an emergency order to see his child?
It seems unreal.

jamezvader1194 said...

@Sheery baby i just don't think its smart of him to give an interview about it.Thats just going to give the Kate fans/jon haters ammunition that hes just trying to make money out of it and not do anything.

Math Girl said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 57
What a piece of work TFW is. She keeps a child away from his father, then complains that all of her children are never gone all at the same time.
Deprives C, deprives Jon, and gets to play victim,
and I do believe she gets pleasure from all of it.
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Absolutely. Couldn't have said it better.

PA Dutch Mom said...

admin wrote, "She then snorts, "One way you can help me is by staying out of my way!" My God, what a f-ing bitch!"

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Never once did I hear my mother say, "Stay out of my way."

Newsflash, Kravitz! Kate grew up in the Mid-Atlantic States. I know that for Milo, geography is challenging, but that includes PA. It's winter. It snows in winter. You prepare for snowstorms. It's too bad that Kate has banned Jon from the property. If they were on speaking terms, he could scoot over to her house during the storm and help her if any emergencies occurred.

That reminds me. I need flashlight batteries in case of a power outage that might happen due to high winds, heavy wet snow. Sigh. Back to the store tomorrow.

Localyocul said...

@MiloAndJack
@msgoody2shoes21 Sad he choose 2discuss private custody issues on TV.. Certainly not the place 2air his grievances. #PublicOpinionCourt

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But it's ok for tfw to say she tells her kids not to settle like she did for their father?

Math Girl said...

swimgirl said... 72
Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Watching news scares you to death about it! #Weather Says NE may be shut down for 3days! How do you stock up for 8kids?
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Uh, same as for 2 kids, then get 4 times a much. If that's too hard, same as for 4 kids, then double it. It's not like she doesn't have two huge cars to haul supplies home in. Now if she only had a Smart for 2 or a sports car, it might be a challenge. But I bet any normal person could do it, even then.

Sherry Baby said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Watching news scares you to death about it! #Weather Says NE may be shut down for 3days! How do you stock up for 8kids?

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How do yous stock up for eight kids? How does any family stock up?

Milo must be one of the dumbest people on the planet. I certainly would think that Kate has enough food and supplies for the next three days. She doesn't go to the store every day for food, so if she's done her weekly shopping (or had someone else do it for her) there must be enough food there to make meals until the end of next week.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

He says they do not co-parent, they communicate through the Court

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It's normal for the court to order parents to communicate through the court these days. In CA parents communicate through an app called Family Wizard run by the court. That way if there is ever any dispute they can go through the official system to prove what happened. You can also see when someone logs on so if dad says I never got that text you can say you never even logged on to check, and you can prove you sent the text.

It's causing a lot less disputes and conflict, which is good for children.

I have no idea why Jon is not seeing one of the boys, I had always thought he didn't want to push a child who has been alienated from him and make it worse--but at this point that is on him to address that issue with the attorneys and the judge. If he's slacking off on that in any way he has no one to blame but himself.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

r Says NE may be shut down for 3days! How do you stock up for 8kids?

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Eye roll.

When you live in the Northeast you always have plenty of food for at least a week if not more. It's not a big deal and is par for the course.

If anyone can't feed their kids for three days they're an idiot.

Plus, shut down doesn't always mean "shut down." It's pretty rare a true shut down happens. There are almost always a few convenience stores and grocery stores open, even through a blizzard. They will plow non stop and most likely main roads will be open shortly. And if worse comes to worst guess what there are emergency shelters. We once, during a horrific ice storm, went to an emergency shelter at the fire department. It was uncomfortable to have to do that but that's what they're there for. We got heat, a meal, a place to rest, and we could regroup and make arrangements to stay with relatives out of town while the power was out all week.

I understand severe winter weather is shocking to someone who has never experienced it but the vast majority of able bodied people get through it just fine if they keep a good head on their shoulders and plan ahead.

Tucker's Mom said...

Right, Admin, I understand that Jon and other parents may not want to pressure their child(ren) to see them if they're going through some emotional difficulties, but this can cause long-term damage with such a great loss of contact.
I can't imagine Jon slacking off and blowing off not seeing any of his children. It doesn't seem in alignment with who he was and how loving a father he was on the show.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate can feed her kids for a week at least, if she actually has food in all those freezers. There's no reason to worry.
We've had DAYS of warning about this storm, and there's no excuse to not have everything you need by now.
Besides, Kate's going to get several inches, not the couple of feet and blizzard conditions we're getting.

Sheepless In Seattle said...


If he saw Collin at the yard sale, I don't see how he could say he hasn't seen him in a year and a half.

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Maybe "seen him" doesn't mean briefly in passing at a yard sale, but he hasn't seen him for any duration during visitation or on holidays.

AuntieAnn said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Watching news scares you to death about it! #Weather Says NE may be shut down for 3days! How do you stock up for 8kids?
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Write this down, Gladys...

you drive to the grocery store, purchase what you think you'll need and then you drive home and unload them into your home. That is how it is done.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

There may be a minor's counsel involved as well who is making recommendations Jon doesn't agree with. A minor's counsel is a total crap shoot. You can get someone very supportive of parental rights or someone who gives even fine parents a terrible battle. There's little oversight over it.

It is an extremely high standard to order no visits for a parent. It's usually reserved for severe sexual abuse or physical abuse or a parent in jail, and we know that's obviously not the case as he has unmonitored custody of his other children. I can say with 99% certainty this is something Jon has consented to. We do know he has an excellent attorney and hopefully they are using their best judgment as to how to handle the situation. A cooling off period is usually 3, 4 months. A cooling off period is not 18 months. If we truly have a brainwashed child at bare minimum visitation should start in a therapeutic setting. With an 11 year old , there is still lots of hope.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

as in the beginning. My guess is he wasn't the first guy she tried to line up on a blind date with Kate. The other fuckity hundred she asked probably turned her down at the mention of Kate's name, so she more or less entrapped this Vann person by not telling him who the date was with.



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Oh I'm sure there were other options and I bet those options asked more questions than Vann. Vann seems so "sure whatever!" in his personality Deanna hit gold finding him.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Great recap, Admin! Always a treat to read them.
And I can tell you have a blast writing them!


^^^^

Thank you Flimsy and all. Lol I don't know if "enjoy" is the word but I enjoy that you enjoy them shall we say!

chefsummer #Leh said...

Localyocul said... 78
@MiloAndJack
@msgoody2shoes21 Sad he choose 2discuss private custody issues on TV.. Certainly not the place 2air his grievances. #PublicOpinionCourt

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But it's ok for tfw to say she tells her kids not to settle like she did for their father?
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And it also okay for Kate to air the kids & Jon's business but when Jon does it's not okay??

Goody needs to STFU.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Gigi Be said... 44
Chef- you're from Chicago? Same here. Thankfully we haven't had too many below zero days, but this past Sunday was brutal.
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The snow really didn't brother it was the super icy cold weather.

Also I heard we might get a snow storm.-(yuck)

chefsummer #Leh said...

as in the beginning. My guess is he wasn't the first guy she tried to line up on a blind date with Kate. The other fuckity hundred she asked probably turned her down at the mention of Kate's name,
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Gasp!!! -(according to Milo)-I thought everyone who knew of Kate loved her.

Also according to Milo Kate has a all natural rocking bod what guys wouldn't want that?

Sheepless In Seattle said...

So Milo hasn't crowed about Kate's ratings saying how much one million people still love her?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Did Kate have a stone?

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Yes, and it said something like "Mommy."

Stupid. Grow up.

reader said...

Admin thanks for the recap. The stones, her lack of consideration for others, her almost cruel sense of what is funny - reminds me of her treatment of Jon. I still say as these girls get older they will be subject to the same abuse Jon endured. I hope they run away to college and not to the arms of the first boy who shows them tenderness. She completely marginalizes their feelings. Why would they want something they say in anger and frustration engraved on a stone? Idiot doofus.
And for the first time I am angry with Jon, and I pray I have to eat my words! He said he hasn't seen his son in over a year and he doesn't know why?! Are the courts that backed up? Is he so broke he can't afford an attorney?! We don't know the details, there must be more to this. Of course there is.
Admin I hope you'll be recording the interview on Monday and let us know your thoughts.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

. The stones, her lack of consideration for others, her almost cruel sense of what is funny - reminds me of her treatment of Jon.

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Oh absolutely. Most of her humor comes from making others squirm. Even sometimes she acts like it's unintentional when she makes others upset, but she still does it.

reader said...

Tit for tat, Kate's stone should have read, "Mine all mine."

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Thank you Flimsy and all. Lol I don't know if "enjoy" is the word but I enjoy that you enjoy them shall we say!

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Ditto from me on the thank you for the recap. I don't watch the shows. I guess I could get through about ten minutes or so if I mute it. I just can't stand to listen to that voice. Of course, the hand-flappin' and eye-rollin' is equally annoying, so maybe it's best if I just continue to read the recaps!

Is the nanny really Grumpy Bear?

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Speaking of men in Kate's life, or the men who didn't make it into Kate's life, whatever happened to Iwana? Is he still around? I remember that his ex-wife had passed away, but he disappeared shortly thereafter.

reader said...

So she goes online, or talking to the poor minion at TLC who is doing the ordering...whatever...a conscious decision is made to put unflattering statements on two garden stones. Money spent (piecing and patching) and those stones will reside on the property for years. She is really disturbed.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I agree, Flimsy, but apparently, according to some you can tell by reading a person's profiles.


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It depends on the profile. Some profiles are very revealing, some don't say much.

I found Vann's internet presence to be on the more revealing side than not.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Write this down, Gladys...

you drive to the grocery store, purchase what you think you'll need and then you drive home and unload them into your home. That is how it is done.

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I wonder if Milo really is this much of an idiot or if she just needs a response from Kate, kind of nudging her to comment about the storm and put herself out there as having to do everything alone.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Also according to Milo Kate has a all natural rocking bod what guys wouldn't want that?

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Apparently not Jeff!

Hey there, Chefs! What's cooking?

reader said...

So I'm searching advice on ugly custody battles and found this. Apparently there are lots of divorced narcissists out there.

"Practice acceptance: You need to accept the fact that you will never win in the mind of a narcissist. You will not be able to change their distorted thought process regardless of how many times you remind them of the real version of the story at hand. You need to accept that you are not dealing with a rational, healthy person because acceptance is the key to moving forward."
~ from Huffington Post - "8 Tips for Dealing With A Narcissist In Family Court"
I apologize for posting so much lately...my upset towards shoompey goes in cycles. I will make a concerted effort and stay quiet over in the corner of the veranda...maybe do some yoga.



jamezvader1194 said...

I don't know if Kate really does DM milo or not but i don't think Kate was on today so i don't believe Kate saw or replied to whatever she sent to Kate.Honestly why would Kate DM any of these fans? Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 4h4 hours ago

@Kateplusmy8 Ahem..might want to chk ur inbox... :)

Lanc Native said...

One of the computer models has Harrisburg coming in at 30 inches with dangerously high winds. If you don't hear from us locals for several days, you may assume we are not under the veranda, but in a snow drift somewhere, hopefully with several barrels of Rumspringa.

Lanc Native said...

I wonder if Milo really is this much of an idiot or if she just needs a response from Kate, kind of nudging her to comment about the storm and put herself out there as having to do everything alone.

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Based on the many tweets we have seen, and some of the idiotic stuff she comes up this, my guess is that she really is this stupid. Nobody could fake dumbness to the extend that Milo brings to Twitter.

Lanc Native said...

"Practice acceptance: You need to accept the fact that you will never win in the mind of a narcissist. You will not be able to change their distorted thought process regardless of how many times you remind them of the real version of the story at hand. You need to accept that you are not dealing with a rational, healthy person because acceptance is the key to moving forward."

)))))))

I hope, though, that the courts don't take narcissism as an excuse, especially not when it comes to Kate and her hatred of Jon.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Hey there, Chefs! What's cooking?
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For dinner made some really good pan seared tilapia and rice pilaf.

Other than that everything is going good. :)

njay said...

Check this out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNs85_s1_SQ#t=44.238

Lanc Native said...

Sascha ‏@Sassccha
@SashaDoubleMam @Kateplusmy8 @TLC Twins r 15. Don't reach age of emancipation (independence) till 18 yrs - Kate has control of their money.

Not true.

http://www.palawhelp.org/resource/emancipation-of-minors?ref=RuUtc

"Finally, a minor child may move "in and out of emancipation" for support purposes. In other words, circumstances may change the child's emancipated status so that he/she becomes dependent once again on parental support. In support matters, therefore, the main issue in determining if a minor child is emancipated is whether the child relies on the parents for support."

In PA, a minor may become emancipated as young as age 16 if they are able to support themselves and live free of their parents.

ncgirl said...

Article about Jon:

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jon-gosselin-claims-he-hasnt-seen-his-kids-together-in-three-years-w162261

AuntieAnn said...

wonder if Milo really is this much of an idiot or if she just needs a response from Kate, kind of nudging her to comment about the storm and put herself out there as having to do everything alone.

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I think it's both. She's a strange one. Very Annie Wilkes-ish.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

I haven't checked lately to see what Uggs has been up to. Seems she wants to go to Red Lobster with @TheSharkDaymond in NYC.

Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66
@TheSharkDaymond I feel you on the #CheddarBiscuits #redlobster I think we should go! I will be in NYC this Sunday / Monday. #dreaming

Uggs is fascinating. I just can't figure her out. I wonder if she knows that those cheddar biscuits are sold in grocery stores!

njay said...

jamezvader1194 said... 76
@Sheery baby i just don't think its smart of him to give an interview about it.Thats just going to give the Kate fans/jon haters ammunition that hes just trying to make money out of it and not do anything.
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Admin, do you think maybe his lawyer is using "the media" as a strategy for something they are privy to at this time? I hate to make assumptions that might smear his name publicly when he has worked so hard to clear it. It's very few people in the grand scale of the media that really cut him slack. He truly, imo,has become the scapegoat from the very beginning of this sad, sad fiasco. Yes he brought some of it on himself. I don't think I could take half of what is said about him and still not see his kids but only intermittently. So little support I think would probably send me spiraling into a severe depression. KUDO'S TO HIM for having the strength to dig his way out.

Leslie said...

This is so upsetting that Jon hasn't seen Colin in a year and a half. And it is more upsetting he is telling the world about it. You know Kate is going to tell Collin this.

My guess is Collin may have had a bad experience at Jon's once and perhaps that he why he does not want to go back. But it is up to Jon to fix the problem. And if the courts are letting him see his other kids than we know that the court deem him fit as a parent.

I like Jon a lot but something is way off here. Collin is too young to be making this decision himself. And we know Kate isn't going to pulling for Jon. So again, it is up to Jon to fix the problem. And why is Jon telling his twitter followers not to ask about his kids but yet goes on tv to talk about his kids. I hope Steve's program sheds more light on this. I wish that Jon would have not mentioned his kids at all but since he did maybe he will say something that will help explain this situation better.

Leslie said...

This is from another website about Kate. It is video transcript of the Steve Harvey show:
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Jon and Kate Gosselin have been divorced for more than six years, but the bitter hatred between them has not cooled down in the least! As Kate begins dating again on her show, Kate Plus 8, her ex Jon made an explosive appearance on the Steve Harvey Show to claim his infamous ex is keeping his kids from him.

“I haven’t seen all of my kids together in about three years,” Jon, 38, told the stunned audience.

He explained that he sees them once a week for dinner and every other weekend, but of the eight kids, he said, “Most of the time I get four.”
“With my custody … I pull to the gate and whoever comes down the driveway, that’s who I get,” he claimed. “I’m not privy to any information. I don’t know who I’m gonna get.”

Shockingly, he claimed, “I haven’t seen my son in a year and a half. I don’t know why. I can’t talk to him. Nothing. Zero. It’s like stopgaps, stopgaps, stopgaps. It’s very frustrating.”

And it’s not likely to change any time soon for twins Cara and Mady, 15, and sextuplets Hannah, Collin, Alexis, Aaden, Leah, and Joel, 11.

“We don’t coparent,” Jon told Harvey of his relationship with Kate, 40. “Theres’ no coparenting. I parent; she parents. At one point in time I’d love to coparent but I just don’t see it happening. So now the kids are stuck in the middle between us.”
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I swear hasn't Jon learned anything by now. He needs to stop being so passive. The way he describes it he just takes whoever comes down the driveway. WTF? I am pissed. Does he not call his kids individually on the phone to arrange visits OR just to talk to them? Why can't he tell Kate he wants to see Collin privately on such and such date and time to discuss what is going on. He needs to document this and take it to court. I mean this is so messed up. He better fight for his kids before it is too late.

And it SOUNDS like Jon hasn't been to court about this. And does he think he is going to get anywhere with his kids by talking about them on a tv show. Jon needs a mentor to help him. He sounds like an idiot. I am sorry, but he does. He is there parent and they are minor kids. It is his fault he does not see all of his kids.

Leslie said...

Oh, sorry I didn't know that came from Radaronline.

Leslie said...

Jon said that he is not privy to any information. Again, this is so ridiculous. And he has no reason why he hasn't seen his son in over a year. If this is true than Jon is an idiot. I mean really. Kate does not have that much power. I don't believe that. Jon needs to get a counselor and demand all the kids go together with him. And he needs to go to court and document EVERYTHING with texts and phone calls. And he needs to stop talking about his kids on national tv. He only makes himself look like a fool and bad parent. He pisses me off, I am sorry.

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overthehill said...

Couldn't the simple answer be the child is refusing to see his father

Wowser said...

I think poor Vann Trapp is going to be sorry he didn't jump out of that helicopter....poor guy.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Again, this is so ridiculous. And he has no reason why he hasn't seen his son in over a year. If this is true than Jon is an idiot. I mean really. Kate does not have that much power. I don't believe that. Jon needs to get a counselor and demand all the kids go together with him.

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How do we know that he hasn't been to court? We know nothing about what he has done and what he hasn't done. He said that he has a great lawyer. I am sure that he just didn't recently tweet this for no reason. Let him and his attorney and the courts work this out.

Blowing In The Wind said...

And why is Jon telling his twitter followers not to ask about his kids but yet goes on tv to talk about his kids.

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Maybe because he doesn't want to get into a Twitter war and have to fend off the sheeple blasting him over this. His Twitter account is for the purpose of his work-related publicity, not for his private family issues. It sounds like at this point he is very frustrated with her, with the courts and now is talking about this to vent. I just don't know, and neither do most people not close to the situation.

Did he specifically say that Collin is the one he hasn't seen? There may be so much going on here that we don't know and to guess about it, judge him and to assume that he's just sitting back and watching this happen (if it's true) is nothing more than speculation because we don't know the circumstances.

I want Nobu! said...

During the argument with Mady and Cara over the engraved snotty comments, not a joke, Kate repeatedly says, "My house."
Everyone pays for what Ma and Pa Kreider didn't get for little Katie.
Not much has changed.

Vanessa said...

So I watched the blind date episode.
Things that stuck out for me
-she described herself as someone who always plans and is "calculating" (hmmm)
-she said a few times how awkward it was with her camera crew filming the date (no shit)
-her closet looked like a bomb went off and her coffee station looked a Dunkin Donuts counter
-her complexion is pretty bad. not sure why she doesn't spend some of the kids money to treat it
-Deanna is the perfect "friend" (read target, victim, narc supply) she is fueling tfw's ego like nobody's business
-she said she didn't date just anyone like the other students in nursing schoool (is this where calculating comes in?) narcs never just date "anyone" they ARE calculating as far as who they prey upon
-she said it's been so long since she's worn heels? come on!
-she of course implied that the one and only criteria for any man to want to pursue her would be if he could handle the chaos and war zone...meaning the kids
-the botox or fillers on the bridge of her nose is making it look bulbous on top
-her outfit sucked

Susie Cincinnati said...

Blowing in the wind and NJ...I agree. He sounds very frustrated, and to think that he's an idiot and a coward for just sitting back and watching things unfold is not fair to him or to his kids, especially since we do not know the extent to which he has tried to get the custodial issue resolved.

Imagine what it must be like not to be allowed on the property or if you never know which of your children you will see when you have visitation. Imagine, too, how painful it must be to see your children dragged out on television for the entertainment of others when you know that quite possibly that your ex-wife has forced them to film because she is obsessed with fame and money, not to mention the slamming that has been done on the internet against your children, your older daughter in particular. That's got to hurt.

I hope that for his sake and for the emotional well-being of his kids that this gets straightened out. Has she poisoned their minds against him? It certainly sounds like it. Her comments about "settling" for someone was totally uncalled for. I would think that the kids have to live with her hatred of him and this isn't healthy for any of them.

NJGal51 said...

Who even knew that Steve Harvey had a TV show! TFW blasts Jon whenever and wherever she can and maybe he's finally had enough. Why should he always be the one to suffer in silence. We don't know what's going on behind closed doors and this may be a preemptive strike. I won't judge just yet. If it turns out that he's just being a douche, then shame on him because he's stooped to her level.

Terri said...

There is a new clip up on twitter from the Steve Harvey interview where Jon talks about how TLC and Kate crucified him in the press. On that point I think we can all agree that that part of this sad sordid story is 100% true.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Vanessa (#125), nice to see you posting! I have
appreciated your insight into narcissists.

TFW said things were "awkward" with the cameras there for her date. But, but, but, she claimed she "forgets cameras!" Remember when she helped that kid who hurt his leg at the party? She said she rushed to his aid because she was a nurse and someone had to. When I think her real motive was to make herself look kind. Kindness isn't her usual M.O. -- read her journals if you don't believe that.

I think part of this awkwardness was put on. Kind of a safety net if the date didn't go well: just blame it on nerves, or the intrusion of the camera.
C'mon, she had nothing invested in this guy. In selling a future dating show, maybe, but not in this particular dude. I think she just wanted to control the narrative later, so she talked about being awkward and uncomfortable. She is never without motive.

Kate is a twit said...

People mag picked up the story about Jon, and they even have a quote from "a source close to Kate".


"A source close to Kate tells PEOPLE, "As always, Kate has no desire to comment on Jon's life or his choices. She will never comment on the father of her children."

Maybe not directly, but she sure manages to get in a lot of subtle digs at him.

reader said...

Watched the teaser Steve Harvey clip. I am thinking now that what Jon means by "I don't know why..." in reference to not seeing one son, is that the he believes there is a deeper reason that Kate will not explain. He's given multiple continued reasons by her attorney....but they seem like manipulation, not the real reason. Again my opinion.
By his use of the word "stopgap" and the hand gestures showing a
continuing line of stopgaps, my guess is they have been to court, or at least shmoopey doofus' attorney has filed documents.
So maybe Jon with his attorney said at the beginning of this 18 months, okay the court granted her request (whatever lame excuse) ...maybe she has manipulated the facts to make it appear "a child having trouble in school needs the stability of one home," I don't know, all conjecture on my part. So they say fine 3 months we'll take the high road, best interest of the child, ride it out, surely revisit it again. Stopgap again, this time...yadda, yadda, yadda....and Kate (has?) the money, is the Mom, and is the custodial parent.

Teaser tv spots can be very disingenuous....<---- like our shmoopey!

I just had this awful thought. I've seen people struggle financially for years over custody battles when one party has a big bank account.
What a horror story we might be watching, - the money those children are earning is paying to alienate their father.



Formerly Duped said...

Sheepless In Seattle said... 86
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I agree if he just saw Collin at the yard sale but I recall people here saying all of the kids or at least all the tups went off in his BBB presumably for his weekend. But I think the custody is indeed screwed up if Jon can't see the kids as ruled, especially Collin. I don't know what the arrangement is or if the kids have a say in it, but didn't Jon go to court to get Hannah? Maybe other changes? Nothing seemed to come of this and all the kids are still filming.Kate got Hannah back by screeching in the street. Yes, screwed up indeed.

MikeB said...

overthehill said... 121
Couldn't the simple answer be the child is refusing to see his father
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I don't think the answer is that simple. There would still have to be a reason the child is refusing to see his father.

Kate should have been a responsible enough parent to ensure the children had a relationship with Jon until they are at least fifteen. Letting nine-year old kids decide week to week if they want to see their parent is totally irresponsible. I'm sure Kate justifies it by saying "it's what they want", but at that age the kids wants are secondary to teaching the children good, responsible behavior. This is just another example of the parental alienation that Kate is pushing on the kids in an attempt to maintain sole control over their lives.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Total conjecture, but I wonder if this has any connection to C feeling, or being made to feel, responsible for the care of the dog and the chickens? Maybe not wanting to be away for fear they won't be cared for properly? As well as the other chores that might pile up in his absence?
I wouldn't put it past his mother to have set up that scenario to keep him home.

LaLaLandNoMore said...

TFW hates Jon because she lost control of him so now she attempts to control through the kids. Not difficult to see if you have ever dealt with "parental alienation." The alienator hates the ex more than they love the kids. All about them and their needs; not their kids. We were told at one point by our attorney that "the court does not dictate morals." Sadly true. There is a lot we do not know about the Gosselins, but even more is obvious. Sick, really sick. No wonder so many good people backed away from them.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I've personally been through the long process of helping a client get visits with a child when none were occurring. This was not because of parental alienation. This was because a teenager had personally decided he wanted to estrange his mom, and the ripe old age of 14. After a long battle in the trial court through several rounds of what's called reunification, visits still weren't happening--I took it to the court of appeal, and won. I can actually talk about the info of this case that is in the appeal when I rarely can talk about cases, since the appeal is public record. But all told the courts were originally involved in 2012 and the Court of Appeal eventually ordered her to have her visits with her teenage son in the spring of 2015. Visits were ordered to occur with the facilitation of a therapist.

I understand that Jon may be in the middle of such a battle and has not seen the payoff yet. I would recommend what the Court of Appeal did in my case to try to undue the damage--have a therapist facilitate the visits. Then you have an independent set of eyes and an expert in dealing with such conflict. I'm pretty confident he has a good attorney so at this point it's on them to approach this how they see fit. I keep an open mind. There is such a balance between forcing a kid who doesn't want to visit (even if they've been brainwashed) and making it worse.

MikeB said...

njay said... 116
Admin, do you think maybe his lawyer is using "the media" as a strategy for something they are privy to at this time?
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I think this is quite likely. Didn't Jon give a shout-out on Twitter a couple of months ago to his new lawyer? Maybe this is part of a bigger plan to get the courts to finally see that Kate is destroying the relationship between the kids and Jon.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Letting nine-year old kids decide week to week if they want to see their parent is totally irresponsible.


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Totally agree. They are not emotionally mature enough or ready to make that decision. There is another public record california case out there called hunter S., I wasn't on it but I have friends who were. That kid was six! The CA Court of Appeal was absolutely horrified that the trial court had allowed a six year old to run the show. Just horrified. They reversed that like crazy. That was also a mother, incidentally.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

"As always, Kate has no desire to comment on Jon's life or his choices. She will never comment on the father of her children."


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Nonsense. She's commented a fucket-y billion times. Read your history book, Deanna.

What's more, saying she won't comment on his "choices" is a passive aggressive way of commenting. It directly implies there's something wrong or detrimental about his choices. You say no comment. You don't say, she doesn't comment on his CHOICES.

They might as well have said I won't comment on that alcoholic child abusing man whore.

reader said...

Brainwashing. Honestly worried for that child. I do hope Jon's attorney is leading him towards the best solution long term, and for the well being of that young man.
And yes if the child is brainwashed forcing the matter would only inflict more harm.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I swear hasn't Jon learned anything by now. He needs to stop being so passive. The way he describes it he just takes whoever comes down the driveway. WTF? I am pissed


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Jon pretty much has one option when four kids walk down the driveway. He pulls out a copy of his family law order. He calls the local police. He shows them the family law order, which says all eight children. The police will absolutely knock on Kate's door, pull the four children out of her arms, and deliver them to Jon. Seen it happen.

I understand Jon and his passive personality feeling like he can't do that to his kids. But I tend to agree there comes a point when you might have to hurt and scare the kids initially to prevent much more hurt in the future. Jon is who he is and I don't know if he has that in him. It comes from a place of love and caring for his children, I know that much, but he's churning in molasses.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I think this new revelation doesn't bode well for that new-and-improved TFW theory, and the illusion of the happy household she's trying to portray.

Leslie said...

Blowing said, " Let him and his attorney and the courts work this out." Exactly, so why is he on an entertainment program talking about this intimate details. Of course we are going to speculate, what else can we do. There is nothing to gain from him spilling all of this on TV. I bet the courts don't like it either. And I doubt this is a strategy that his attorney and him are using. What courts would let this tv clip sway them in a positive way. Whatever he said on this clip he can say privately to a court.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#140), thanks for the details on the letter of the law with this. It helps in understanding how this has been an ongoing issue: TFW knows more than anyone her ex's passive nature, and is
exploiting it to get her way. What a sick woman.

Leslie said...

Admin., 1) Do you think Jon knows why some of the kids do not visit with him? He said he doesn't. 2) And if the court told Kate for all eight to visit with Jon regularly and then they don't, can Kate be held responsible for this? 3) What is your guess about Jon talking on the phone with his kids. It sounds like he doesn't even do that. If I was Jon I would give a phone to the kids for that specific purpose and if Kate didn't allow them to talk, I would tell the courts. I say that because it would seem that he would know why they are visiting if he spoke to them.

Sad but true said...

reader said... 131
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I just had this awful thought. I've seen people struggle financially for years over custody battles when one party has a big bank account.
What a horror story we might be watching, - the money those children are earning is paying to alienate their father.
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It's not Kate's bank account that he should fear---it's TLC's. From Hoffman's book, we can infer that TLC money helped Kate out significantly during the divorce, in order to protect their investment. The big question is, is her show important enough to them six years later to take on that kind of scorched-earth strategy again. If their money enters this fray, I'd say he's got little to no chance of succeeding.

JoyinVirginia said...

Thanks for the recap! I will catch up on comments after I have finished my prep for the snowpocalypse. I am one gardener who enjoys wielding a chain saw! It's a fantastic way to get rid of stress and handle frustration! I have two smaller chain saws, one Greenworks battery powered with a rechargeable battery, great for shrubs and small trees, up to six inch diameter. Another that is small electric one operated with long extension cord, but can handle under twelve inch diameter. So handy! For big trees, I'm calling a tree removal service. For small things, or pruning unruly butterfly bushes or crepe myrtles, I'm doing it myself!
I can understand why Lamb's Ear would interest kids. It has a lovely foliage that is velvety to the touch, plus it's a hardy perennial plus bees love the flowers. It produces straight spears of a purple flower on Stachys byzantina, the most common variety. It can withstand hot dry summers and still look pretty!

localyocul said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 143
I think this new revelation doesn't bode well for that new-and-improved TFW theory, and the illusion of the happy household she's trying to portray.

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And the funny thing is, in an attempt to garner pity for TFW, her bff Deanna said something like: "you are never without kids. It's not like they all go on the weekends." LOLOL she confirmed it

localyocul said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 140
"As always, Kate has no desire to comment on Jon's life or his choices. She will never comment on the father of her children."


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Nonsense. She's commented a fucket-y billion times. Read your history book, Deanna.

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What exactly does she think "I tell my kids to learn from me NOT TO SETTLE"????? is

Kit Kat said...

Kate gives Shoka a huge pile of people food when they're done. God, she's the worst.

Actually, it is not a bad thing to give your dog human food, as long as it is the right kind of human food. Many dog owners only feed their pups a human diet. No fault with that. I like to supplement leftovers with our dogs. Vegies, some fruit and meat.

I have to disagree that Collin is afraid to talk during the interviews as a protest. We have all discussed how out of it he seems. I think he is very much medicated. If anything, he may have been warned to not say anything that causes an argument. But that kid doesn't seem to want to upset his Mommy on purpose.
Kit Kat

Leslie said...

You know what is so sad is Kate thinks she is giving her kids the best of everything in life. I mean the deck is for the kids health and well-being, all the stuff she buys them, the huge house and acreage, and all the numerous trips. But the most important things the kids need are for their father to be in their life, their relatives to be in their lives, and for them to go to church. And she had failed on those all accounts. And another thing the kid need that she is failing them on is they need their privacy for once in their lives. They are too young to be deciding to film their entire lives for the world to view.

chefsummer #Leh said...

She will never comment on the father of her children."
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HAHAA seriously??

I guess this person missed all the interviews and tweets where KATE does exactly this.

In fact even be for their divorce and what four years later she kept on doing this & sometimes she still does do this...(whoever said this is really stupid )

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Actually, it is not a bad thing to give your dog human food, as long as it is the right kind of human food. Many dog owners only feed their pups a human diet. No fault with that. I like to supplement leftovers with our dogs. Vegies, some fruit and meat.

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It's not bad if you know what you're doing and meet their nutritional needs.

My understanding though is it's not good to abruptly have a dog going from a big plate of random people food i.e. leftovers to dog food, which is what he apparently normally eats.

Kit Kat said...

My understanding though is it's not good to abruptly have a dog going from a big plate of random people food i.e. leftovers to dog food, which is what he apparently normally eats

Well we don't know that. We saw some leftover steak. Looked like a yummy treat. We have seen a cake make for a dog with human food. Shoka looks quite healthy.

Kit Kat

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Sad but True Now that you say that,would TLC still help Kate out now?I remember when BullyVille helped her against both Jon and Robert over the book,but since Bullyville is gone and has his own problems,i don't think he'll help her.Since Kate's filler now,i don't see TLC caring.On the other hand i wouldn't be surprise if they still helped her.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Chef (#153), and TFW has most definitely allowed her fans to trash Jon, even with threats of physical violence. Never says boo about their ugly comments about the father of her 8 children.

Sue said...

Kate is buying the kids pure and simple. It's the "I can give you what your father can't" attitude. The kids are old enough to know that Kate can provide them with material things and Jon can't. The twins know this and take advantage of it, concert tickets, designer clothes, etc. Jon can't compete if money is involved and what kids don't want the latest in everything.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Actually, it is not a bad thing to give your dog human food, as long as it is the right kind of human food. Many dog owners only feed their pups a human diet.
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It's not really a bad thing however if you feed your pet too much table food-(I have done it) they will get used to it and won't want their dog food.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Never says boo about their ugly comments about the father of her 8 children.
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Well the queen has spoken or tweeted so her loyal sheep will re-tweet and follow.

If they dare to speak out the queen will kick then out of the barnyard.

TLC stinks said...

I've always thought Kate threatens Collin by saying if you go to your dad's for the weekend, no one will take care of the chickens. I believe some of the kids have told Jon that Kate mistreats Collin. He may or may not need to be medicated, but judging by his behavior, I think his medication needs to be reduced. Kate has created her own little robot, IMO. Collin was the main troublemaker but not any longer.

Leslie said...

I have two questions about the way Kate handles her kitchen. I noticed that she always has several of those blue water filter pitchers on her counter. I thought it was initially because her other frig. did not have a water filter/dispenser in the door but her new one does. So why do you think she clutters the kitchen up with those pitchers?

And second is that big, black tub that is always by her sink. I think she must use it to put her dirty dishes in. How come she did not get a double sink or even a triple sink (3rd sink is small with disposal) that is built-in. That way she would not have to have that big, ugly thing sitting on her counter all the time.

Those two things would drive me crazy looking at them all the time. And they absolutely take away from her beautiful kitchen. I guess they don't bother her but I am just curious as to why she has both of those.

And somebody above said that they want to pop that thing on her left cheek. Boy, that thing really bothers me too. I think it is a whitehead and it can be easily removed. I get them and I take a sterile needle and break the skin and the hard substance comes out. Then it scabs over in less than a week. We know she sees a Dr. for her botox so I don't know why she doesn't get him/her to remove. It is distracting.

AuntieAnn said...

If Kate will never comment on the father of HER children (bullshit, she won't) they might and it might not be as bad as Kate would like it to be. The twins proved that when Kate trotted them out on the Today show to slam their father.

Say what you will about Mady at least she's always been protective of her brothers and sisters. She very well knows both sides of the story and how her mother is capable of extracting people they love out of their lives like Judy, Jodi and Kevin and their kids, Beth, Ashley and probably others we don't know about. Why should Jon be any different. He's of no use to Kate anymore and therefore in her warped mind the children don't need him either.

I think that's why Kate backs off from Mady when she bad-mouths her. She knows Mady could bring that house of cards down in one breath if she wanted to. The stories she could tell.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

AuntieAnn (#163), I think you make some great points. I said recently that I thought the twins may use "We're moving to Dad's" to keep their mother doing their bidding. If they leave, it's all over.

TFW's maturity is stunted, and I believe the twins' maturity may soon surpass hers. And
their intelligence may already be ahead of hers.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Kate was cooking steak and a combination of grilled green peppers and onions. Delicious people food but if she gave Shoka any of the onions in the huge plate of leftovers she offered him, she could have killed him:

http://drsophiayin.com/blog/entry/onions_the_secret_killer

She also needs to be careful of the steak bones.

AuntieAnn said...


FlimsyFlamsy said... 164

I said recently that I thought the twins may use "We're moving to Dad's" to keep their mother doing their bidding. If they leave, it's all over.

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I agree and I don't think Kate's going to be able to keep buying them off forever. If she thinks only the tangible things in life bring happiness and she's taught them to think that, she's wrong. The day will come when they'll all realize how they've been manipulated and when they do, some of them may not be as grateful to her as she expects them to be.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I have two questions about the way Kate handles her kitchen. I noticed that she always has several of those blue water filter pitchers on her counter. I thought it was initially because her other frig. did not have a water filter/dispenser in the door but her new one does. So why do you think she clutters the kitchen up with those pitchers?


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She has random crap all over her kitchen on any given day. PUT THINGS AWAY. It's a beautiful kitchen with expansive counter space that's cluttered and disorganized all the time.

Leslie said...

Excellent points Auntie Ann, who was Judy? The name draws a blank. Also add her parents, siblings, & cousins that are not a part of their lives. The kids have to know it is because of their mother that they are absent from their lives.

redbird said...

Could someone please provide the link to Jon's interview where he was talking about TLC. TIA!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#166), remember the hiring the housekeeper episode? TFW made these lofty claims about her cleaning habits which seem laughable now. Didn't she said she got on her hands and knees and cleaned off the floor twice a day? The she humiliated the woman she'd hired by showing
some dust she'd missed.

I think chose OCD as an interesting character quirk for the show. Maybe she thought it would mitigate her need for perfection from people.
But she's just a demanding ninny.

AuntieAnn said...

Leslie, Judy was a nanny, or "helper" as Kate likes to call them, from back in 2008 or 2009. She also had Carla and Ashley to help out at the same time. That's three that we know of and she still had Jon to kick around too. Poor Schmoopy. Doing it 'all alone', my ass.

jamezvader1194 said...

I hate to say it,but i feel the gosselin 8 are going to get the Jacob Roloff treatment.I remember reading the article about Jacob and saying how much he hated filming.Although there were alot of comments that were saying how the gosselin 8 are going to go down his path,there were some comments were people were caling Jacob an ungrateful brat.I feel the twins are going to get that treatment and somehow Kate is going to be seen as the victim.

Tucker's Mom said...

She has random crap all over her kitchen on any given day. PUT THINGS AWAY. It's a beautiful kitchen with expansive counter space that's cluttered and disorganized all the time.
January 22, 2016 at 11:47 AM
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That would drive me off my nut!
DH and I have been running around like chickens with their heads cut off, getting everything we need for the snow storm/blizzard.
We have had parents over for a couple days so we could all travel up to NJ for a funeral, and their flight out today was cancelled (last night, actually).
So...thank God I prepared for this and bought a lot of food ahead of time. However, MIL is VERY ill with a stomach virus, so we were out for 3 hours getting her medication and other needs, as well as extra clothing for them because they're hunkered in with us until TUESDAY!.

Oh, before I forget, MIL is lying on the floor in my laundry room.
So tired of doing laundry!
(Seriously, tired of doing laundry, but not serious about putting her on the floor. She's comfy on our recliner, all snuggled under a blanket).

Midnight Madness said...

I remember when BullyVille helped her against both Jon and Robert over the book,but since Bullyville is gone and has his own problems,i don't think he'll help her.

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What would he help her with? Why would she need him? Does she still follow him? I certainly would hope that she has been alerted to his reputation right now and the legal problems he has and she has cut the cord as far as him helping her.

Tucker's Mom said...

I have two questions about the way Kate handles her kitchen. I noticed that she always has several of those blue water filter pitchers on her counter. I thought it was initially because her other frig. did not have a water filter/dispenser in the door but her new one does. So why do you think she clutters the kitchen up with those pitchers?
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A lot of people don't want an exterior water/ice dispenser. They tend to be a point of breakage, and knowing Kate, she doesn't want the kids helping themselves and splattering.
I'd get a huge water cooler.

Midnight Madness said...

Didn't Jon give a shout-out on Twitter a couple of months ago to his new lawyer?

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It wasn't a new lawyer. He said he has the best lawyer in Berks and that she has a new webpage. That's where the "new" came from. It very well may be a new attorney, but that's not what he tweeted.

Formerly Duped said...

The crap in TFW's kitchen seems to get worse each episode. I know it's hard with kids and the bird, but I recall how condescending she was about Kendra's beautiful kitchen, saying " a little clutterish going on here. That would drive me crazy" Or similar.

Midnight Madness said...

"As always, Kate has no desire to comment on Jon's life or his choices. She will never comment on the father of her children."


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Nonsense. She's commented a fucket-y billion times. Read your history book, Deanna.

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Deanna is an airhead, and since when did she become Kate's mouthpiece? Is she also getting paid for being her publicity agent? Kate has consistently thrown Jon under the bus and has slammed him with passive aggressive tweets. Deanna needs to shut up before she gets her foot stuck in her mouth and someone will come out with a plethora of proof that Kate has made derogatory remarks about Jon.

Leslie said...

Tucker's Mom, Kate new refrig. (the one she got in the past year or two) has a water/filter thingy (ha!) on her door. Maybe she doesn't use it because of that, I don't know. But she is probably spending a small fortune on all those water filters for those pitchers though.

Midnight Madness said...

Jon is who he is and I don't know if he has that in him. It comes from a place of love and caring for his children, I know that much, but he's churning in molasses.

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I think that you are exactly right about that. He has said before that he doesn't want to get the kids involved in this tangled mess because it will hurt them. I really think that's what he cares about most of all...not his rights, not missing his kids, not putting them in a place between both parents and choosing sides, especially when he knows from experience just how vindictive she can be and would take it out on the kids.

jamezvader1194 said...

I'll never forget when i 1st joined tweet Kate made a reply tweet about the story about jon supposedly abandoning a kitten.She said something along the lines of how she showed her kids and they started crying.Thats when i knew she does try to make her kids hate their father.

Tucker's Mom said...

Actually, it is not a bad thing to give your dog human food, as long as it is the right kind of human food. Many dog owners only feed their pups a human diet. No fault with that. I like to supplement leftovers with our dogs. Vegies, some fruit and meat.

I have to disagree that Collin is afraid to talk during the interviews as a protest. We have all discussed how out of it he seems. I think he is very much medicated. If anything, he may have been warned to not say anything that causes an argument. But that kid doesn't seem to want to upset his Mommy on purpose.
Kit Kat
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I'm in agreeance, KK. I feed my dogs human food, mostly as nice treats, and sometimes to get them to eat something when they're old and frail.
I don't see defiance when Colin is silent on the couch. I see altered.

Midnight Madness said...

A lot of people don't want an exterior water/ice dispenser. They tend to be a point of breakage, and knowing Kate, she doesn't want the kids helping themselves and splattering.
I'd get a huge water cooler.

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Raising my hand here! At first I thought it was very cool to have one, and I must admit that having ice at the touch of a button was a real plus. Then I walked in the door one day to find the darn thing had broken and there were several inches of water on my floor. The plumber disconnected it and I have not used it since. Those old-fashioned ice cube trays work just as well! I don't want to go through Niagara Falls again.

Somewhere In Time said...

Midnight, 180:

I think that you are exactly right about that. He has said before that he doesn't want to get the kids involved in this tangled mess because it will hurt them. I really think that's what he cares about most of all...not his rights, not missing his kids, not putting them in a place between both parents and choosing sides, especially when he knows from experience just how vindictive she can be and would take it out on the kids.

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Bingo. I think you hit the nail on the head. He lived with a narcissistic sociopath for many years, and even though he is probably aware of what lengths she will go to when she wants to keep that gravy-train going (filming) he may now be even more concerned that if she's really p$$ed off at him this can have disastrous results, either emotionally or physically.

Anger issues can manifest in anything, and this is just arm-chair psychology here, but it seems that he doesn't want to be responsible if anything happens to those kids because of his custody demands.

Sad but true said...

As if Kate doesn't know what her ratings are two-and-a-half days later! What a dolt. And the date episode wasn't the highest-rated by any measure.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 3m3 minutes ago
@kateplusmy8 Here's the link regarding your numbers for Tues.nite! http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-tuesday-cable-originals-network-update-1-19-2016.html … I think viewers would like to see #DateTwo :)

foxy said...

I remember on CWS when she entered Kendra's kitchen, she waves her talons and sneered this is a bit clutterish!!! It wasn't. It had a phone and maybe 2 other small items. She is just nasty and always will be.

localyocul said...

Goody thinks Jon is the ex from Hell? I think that title belongs to Charlie Sheen. Holy guacomole!!

http://radaronline.com/videos/denise-richards-charlie-sheen-daughters-trust-fund/

http://www.eonline.com/news/733227/denise-richards-slams-charlie-sheen-in-court-documents-claims-he-threatened-her-and-their-children

And apparently Sheen's lawyer is Martie Singer.

Somewhere In Time said...

I just read the story that popped up on one of the news sites. He does not say that it is Collin. It very well could be, but then again, there are two other sons. The article is still under the impression that he is still waiting tables. Guess they really didn't do their homework.

redbird said...

foxy said... 186
I remember on CWS when she entered Kendra's kitchen, she waves her talons and sneered this is a bit clutterish!!! It wasn't. It had a phone and maybe 2 other small items. She is just nasty and always will be.

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I was like wow, why is she talking about Kendra's kitchen like that because there was nothing wrong with it.

But what got me was her instant hate toward lil Hank's nanny, Rosa. She immediately told Hank Sr. that SHE would be taking care of everything and ROSA WOULD BE LEAVING.

Then she was standing in the living room telling lil Hank what she was going to do and she said, I am going to take care of you. And lil Hank said, OH NO YOUR NOT! or NO YOUR NOT!

The look on her face of getting told basically H no from a toddler was priceless. Just think she grabbed Joel the same age as lil Hank and yanked him up by the hair on his head and dragged him up the stairs, threw him into his crib and beat him into his crib to the point where she thought that she would severely injure him. Her behavior toward that little boy was textbook psychopathic. You could tell that she was really fighting to not explode.

I just loved lil Hank when he had his finger up his nose and she couldn't do anything about it.

Lil Hank you could tell he loved Rosa to pieces!

Over And Out said...

I am not disappointed in him for speaking out. He has been trashed in the media. He has been repeatedly been thrown under the bus by his former wife. I would imagine that he's very frustrated and just about at his wit's end over this. Of course, the sheep will blame him for everything, but that's par for the course. At least his side is being told and I really don't think that viewers had any idea just how bad it is.

It was also nice to see him propped up for the interview and wasn't falling over. For a dead guy, they had him looking pretty darn good.

Molly12 said...

A lot of people don't want an exterior water/ice dispenser. They tend to be a point of breakage, and knowing Kate, she doesn't want the kids helping themselves and splattering.
I'd get a huge water cooler.

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In the deck building episode, the kids are taking items downstairs. One of them passes the refrigerator and there is a note taped on the exterior water/ice dispenser. Who could live in a house with notes taped to everything? I didn't see the blind date episode but heard she made statements that she never wears high heels. She is in heels when she is with the magician and the boys in the park.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#185), Gladys is trying to deflect the custody story, like the true and faithful lackey she is.

Gladys thinks viewers want to see #DateTwo? But the fans insist TFW and Lites Out Vann have already had many other dates, but that the cameras were a deal breaker! Perhaps they could perform a reinactment of those dates for America's viewing pleasure? Nothing would surprise me at this point.

fidosmommy said...

Did the camera linger on those blue pitchers? If so, we know why they were sitting out in full view. #Brita! #Need4!

localyocul said...

Somewhere In Time said... 188
I just read the story that popped up on one of the news sites. He does not say that it is Collin. It very well could be, but then again, there are two other sons.

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One of the articles I saw had a pic with Jon, his new girlfriend, her daughter(?) and four kids; two tup girls and Aidan and Joel

Tucker's Mom said...

Leslie said... 168
Excellent points Auntie Ann, who was Judy?
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A long-term nanny that the children LOVED.

Lanc Native said...

OT -- Joy! Are you in the three-foot range?

Tucker's Mom said...

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Nonsense. She's commented a fucket-y billion times. Read your history book, Deanna.

What's more, saying she won't comment on his "choices" is a passive aggressive way of commenting.
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That is Kate verbiage. Deanna is a hanger-on-er, and a toady.

fidosmommy said...

Wasn't Judy the nanny who fixed the tup girls's hair so cute all the time?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Best of luck to all you east coasters in the storm zone this weekend.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

That is Kate verbiage. Deanna is a hanger-on-er, and a toady.

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So Deanna is being used to make passive aggressive comments that were put in her mouth by Kate. In addition to being a hanger-on-er, then she's also a puppet (or a marionette).

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