Tuesday, January 19, 2016

Discussion thread: Kate Plus 8 'Blind Date'

Kate Plus 8

Blind Date10:00 PM on TLC, 1 hr 2016 TV-PG
Kate goes to New York when she gets set up on a blind date, which includes a fancy dinner and a helicopter ride. Back at home, Mady and Cara find things to do to keep their younger siblings busy.

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Kate is a twit said...

Another clip from the episode.

http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/kate-gosselins-kids-complain-about-her-love-life-watch-w162088

TLC is heavily promoting this episode. I wonder if the ratings for this one will determine whether they will continue to film the show.

Wowser said...

Is Dianna divorced?

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Maybe for his sake it should have been a deaf date as well as a blind date. Tie a scarf around his eyes and give him ear plugs and just let him sit back and enjoy his meal.

I'm not watching the show, but I wonder how her table manners were on this date.

JTN said...

TLC can promote it all they want, but methinks if the ratings go up, it only to see who the unlucky victim, err date, happens to be.

Wowser said...

Disheveled and nervous? She has no handle on the English language....I've never seen anyone who claims to be a writer and English their favorite subject screw it up so badly...she just had bobble head Deanna glam her up and used the word disheveled....way to insult your make up artist and paid friend.

Wowser said...

I tried to watch...couldn't take more than 15 minutes.

TLC stinks said...

I thought children of divorced parents usually hope the parents reunite? Why would a parent whine in front of her children about her lack of a man in her life? Why burden your kids with this when it's the parent's issue? Not watching that clip because I think those kids have mixed feelings and still suffer from a sense of loss. All Kate wants is to introduce another adult figure into the household and film it.

jamezvader1194 said...

I don't mind Kate dating but the only thing that'd piss me off is that her fans (like milo)would refer to Kate's new boyfriend or husband as the kids new father and try to say hes the 1 true dad they have.Thats the only thing that would piss me off

reader said...

Shouldn't a professional makeup artist look fashionable? A little more cutting edge, modern, stylish?
Just saw a clip, not watching the show - Deanna's hair, her lack of style, I would never guess her to be a paid makeup artist.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I thought children of divorced parents usually hope the parents reunite? Why would a parent whine in front of her children about her lack of a man in her life? Why burden your kids with this when it's the parent's issue?

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Kids are usually all over the place about divorce. Some are fine with it, some are not. Some want parents to get back together, some are fine with things. Some are fine with dating, some struggle with it. I get the sense based on the children's own comments they are okay with the divorce and most have moved on. I think it was Mady who even flat out said she wants Kate to find someone. I think in many ways divorce can be much easier if it happens early in your childhood instead of later.

But it's without a doubt no kid needs to be burdened with their parent's dating woes. That's not appropriate under any circumstances to involve your children so heavily in that. But then Kate rarely acts in an appropriate manner around her children.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Shouldn't a professional makeup artist look fashionable? A little more cutting edge, modern, stylish?
Just saw a clip, not watching the show - Deanna's hair, her lack of style, I would never guess her to be a paid makeup artist.


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She looked Duggar-ish to me in the last recap. Ankle length skirt? Huh?

Met a lot of those make-up artists around here, and hip leather jackets rule the day.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 4m4 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 sound like me on dating..I ended up marrying the 6th person I ever dated! LOL Just 5 guys ahead of him. I was lucky! #GoodMan

LOL!! I bet those other five are now breathing a sigh of relief that they were the ones who managed to escape from the meddling eyes of Kravitz!

I wonder how LOM feels about being the one with whom she ended up. #Good man because he has resigned himself to the fact that she's in love with a woman and he just ignores her celebrity worship obsession. Does he feel lucky because he wears the slacks in the family and she obeys his 11 p.m. lights out orders?

I see that Brownie came out from hiding to tweet!

NJGal51 said...

@deannatweeting: @MK_Brownlow @Kateplusmy8 @TLC It was so important to me that she have a nice adult night out. She deserves it!
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Because we all know that TFW never does anything for herself nor does she ever go anywhere without the kids. One day karma will catch up with her and she will get exactly what she deserves.

redbird said...

I was watching with the sound off while I was on the phone. I tried to put the closed captioning on but I couldn't get it to come on.

Wow. Her acne is bad. Why isn't she using something from a dermatologist? Her hair and makeup didn't look great at all.

Wanna bet Steve was in the limo?

When they just met she said this was awkward and she said in the voiceover she said it was awkward with HER camera crew.

Do you believe that Kate has not rode in a helicopter in NYC before this date? Please let me sell you the Brooklyn Bridge.

She said the helicopter was an ODD icebreaker.

Well, if you can afford it.

The look on his face when she asked him about being single and 8 kids-less was like DANNNNNGGG!

He has dodged a huge bullet by locking his Twitter!

Sue_Buddy said...

OT-Netflix recommendation.

Excellent series on Netflix. "Occupied." It's partly subtitled, made in Norway. I'm used to the subtitles, and have seen some very good series. If you don't like subtitles, let me just say, you're going to miss a terrific program. I'm seldom disappointed in the foreign films.

Kate is a twit said...

Looks like Milo was hoping that Kate's date would join her for the tweet fest. Probably hoping she could latch onto someone else that knows Kate.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack · 54m54 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Is your #BlindDate going to join you tonight on twitter? #CyberCouchInterviewWithYouTwo :)

TLC stinks said...

I don't know. Mady may say she is fine with a stepdad until the disruption of having this person actually move in. Since she does not respect her mother, the same will be true for any man Kate were ever to marry, and that will create tension between everyone. Of course, if it's tension, I suppose that works for a reality show. Maybe that is the end game.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

My narcissist has a gaggle of ex's and their standard statement is we're good friends and forever family and we get along swimmingly, thanks for asking.

I know for a fact behind closed doors that's absolutely not true. There was a period where they were in such discord they couldn't even sit together at a darn baseball game. There were many other things that happened that proved that statement to be an utter lie and in fact still is.

But, it's a lie I totally understand. They have sense enough to just bite their tongue and just play nice in anything the public might possibly see and in turn, the children.

Kate could suck it up buttercup and just be nice about Jon. Always. No exceptions. No snide remarks about settling and all the other BS she spews. If one narcissist could do it for the children, so can she.

Jeanne said...

I think the kids remember enough of how Jon and Kate interacted (or now see them interact) to not want them back together. But I do not see Kate managing a relationship with a smart, successful man. She would need to hold a conversation that does not revolve around the kids and she would have to pay attention to him sometimes. How is it you managed to not end up with 8 kids? What kind of garbage is that?

The guy at least has some tact, saying he enjoyed meeting her.

redbird said...

This date is so awkward to the point of distraction.

It is disgusting that she made another 40K dollars for this.

reader said...

Yes Duggar like. Very somber style of dress. She makes me think of a sad waif hiding, behind lifeless hair and baggy long garments. Even her posture is sad.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Oh, I also like the lead from Coldplay's response to similar questions.

I'm uncomfortable with these questions but if you must know we're friends, thanks.

You KNOW he one day woke up and realized he married GOOPSTER.....AHHHH! And bred with her! AHHHH! But in public it's all, **we're friends** now let's talk music.

You can have a certain amount of control over the narrative by refusing to go there. He won't.

Sad but true said...

Poor K8 was sooo distracted by people thinking this was the "finale," she didn't get too many follows in. And not too many tweets from randoms tonight, either.

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 42s42 seconds ago
Reminder: NEXT TUESDAY IS THE #KatePlus8 SEASON FINALE. Not tonight.. We have one more week together❤️ @TLC #CantWait

Methinks someone at TLC is about to get their ass chewed.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


In the eonline clip, Deanna says that she met him at a charity function.

http://www.eonline.com/news/732393/kate-gosselin-goes-on-really-awkward-blind-date-on-kate-plus-8

I guess that means he's a "charity" date for Kate.

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I kind of believe that Deanna met him at some event and hoodwinked him into doing this.

Based on his hobbies he seems like the type of guy up for anything. Just an all around "cool" guy who is game to try new things even ridiculous things and isn't afraid to look stupid. Dating an older woman with kids, sure why not. Book smart and well rounded but not always astute to a woman manipulating him.

Deanna did good finding him actually. He's exactly the type that would fall for this.

Sad but true said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 23
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Based on his profile, I think he's actually a couple of years older than Kate. USNA '94 grad.

Sad but true said...

Really sounding desperate, aren't we?

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 19m19 minutes ago
Reminder: NEXT TUESDAY IS THE #KatePlus8 SEASON FINALE. Not tonight.. We have one more week together❤️ @TLC #CantWait

Natasha W ‏@talkitytash 8m8 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
@Kateplusmy8 @TLC why did @TLC say tonight was #Seasonfinale

Kate Gosselin
‏@Kateplusmy8
@talkitytash @TLC I don't know. I asked same thing. Next week is going to be awesome! Whatever it's labeled, just watch w me:)

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 3m3 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @talkitytash @TLC I think they wanted to make sure everyone thought it was last one...so no one missed it! #SneakyExecs

redbird said...

I feel sorry for him because he seems to be a nice guy.

It was awful listening to her talk about hardly dating 5 people...hmmm!

But what I posted on the other thread about how she went after Jon and got rid of his gf is really bad. Makes you wonder what did she do to get rid of her?

Unknown said...

I would really like to say something intelligent about this awful show but I just can't think of a way to even start....I will say that again, she throws Jon under the bus - in an indirect passive aggressive way. The only reason I watch this show - and I'm ashamed to admit it - is because I dislike her so much that I get pleasure out of seeing her be such an unlikable ass!! And I would bet that 75% of the eyeballs that watch do for the same reason. Spoiler alert FYI: she smugly thinks she will date this guy again.

TLC stinks said...

He is 43 or 44.

TLC stinks said...

@MK_Brownlow @Kateplusmy8 @TLC It was so important to me that she have a nice adult night out. She deserves

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I guess all those dinners alone with Steve don't count.

NJGal51 said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 3m3 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @talkitytash @TLC I think they wanted to make sure everyone thought it was last one...so no one missed it! #SneakyExecs
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Because those #SneakyExecs don't think TFW can get viewers on her own so they have to sandwich her between episodes of The Little Couple and tell everyone it's the +8 final episode?

Sue_Buddy said...

He's exactly the type that would fall for this.

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Good example of the pitfalls of social media. People think they know what someone's Like before they even meet them. UGH!

IMO personalities are many faceted. Glad I'm not in the job hunting market. A Linkedin profile hardly scratches the surface.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



Good example of the pitfalls of social media. People think they know what someone's Like before they even meet them. UGH!

IMO personalities are many faceted. Glad I'm not in the job hunting market. A Linkedin profile hardly scratches the surface.

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Was this in response to my assessment he seems like a fun guy, up for anything, cool? I stand by that comment. That's exactly what his behavior online suggests.

I actually think you can tell quite a bit from someone's social media presence. Look at Kate's.

reader said...

This was heavily scripted. Do not believe it was an innocent setup facilitated by Deanna! TLC gave her a script.Deanna did not know this guy from Adam. Look at her body language. And really who talks like that when introducing a "friend" (cough) to a potential victim...I mean boyfriend. That was scripted, cameras rolling.
Think how you would act, you would have told each party long before the date, the reasons why you felt them compatible. Why was Deanna there at all? To make the audience buy it, and to make Kate appear more human, (her caring friend).

TLC stinks said...

This guy is going for a gal that is really into water sports...not Kate at all despite her loud proclamations of loving deep sea fishing on the Florida vacay. She looked like the amateur she is on that boat. He'll never be on the show again.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I don't mean older than him. I mean older in the sense of a fertile woman.

Usually, men who haven't settled down yet are looking for someone 30 or so, who can bear them two or three kids without hundreds of thousands in fertility treatments. That's not going to be Kate.

Maybe he doesn't want kids, I have no idea, but he's definitely dating against type for a first-timer i.e. hasn't been divorced with kids that we know of, etc.

Sue_Buddy said...

I actually think you can tell quite a bit from someone's social media presence. Look at Kate's.
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People have been observing Kate for years. This guy wasn't ever outed until today. Apples and oranges.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

People have been observing Kate for years. This guy wasn't ever outed until today. Apples and oranges.

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Deep sea fishing in Belize and other out of the norm, out there, expensive sports plus world traveler and avid reader tells me a lot about a person and what they are game for. A LOT.

Shrug.

All This Is That said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 3m3 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @talkitytash @TLC I think they wanted to make sure everyone thought it was last one...so no one missed it! #SneakyExecs

Milo, you idiot. If it were put out there as a finale, then that's what viewers thought it was. Final. Done. Last one. Then they won't check back to see if there is one next week and I would think that TLC would want to milk *every* episode.

Sue_Buddy said...

I doubt you know what he's "exactly" like regarding anything, only "knowing" him for a few hours.

Pardon the over-usage of quotation marks.

Samantha said...

The beginning was Jon and Kate plus 8. Six adorable chubby babies with Asian features, and their exhausted young parents living in central Pennsylvania. So much of that original attraction is gone.
I don't know how much of that original audience is wanting to watch a divorced 40 year old woman heavily tanned and made up- date wealthy single older men.

jamezvader1194 said...

@leslie sorry i didn't respond to your question about Jeff linking the story but if you see this.Here's the story.I know it saids source but how would this source know about the date episode unless its really jeff http://www.tmz.com/2015/09/23/kate-gosselin-jeff-prescott-show-ratings-break-up/

PatK said...

Samantha said... 39
The beginning was Jon and Kate plus 8. Six adorable chubby babies with Asian features, and their exhausted young parents living in central Pennsylvania. So much of that original attraction is gone.
I don't know how much of that original audience is wanting to watch a divorced 40 year old woman heavily tanned and made up- date wealthy single older men.

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Just those who want to live vicariously through her, apparently.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

@leslie sorry i didn't respond to your question about Jeff linking the story but if you see this.Here's the story.I know it saids source but how would this source know about the date episode unless its really jeff

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I don't understand. You commented that Jeff linked a story saying he was used.

Anonymous said...

The way she was dressed for the date reminded me of when she was running down the sidewalk with the ice cream cones - she looked like a hooker. The skirt was way too short; a plain dress with the hemline just above the knee would have made a better impression for a 40 year old. Her makeup and horrible hair added to the 'tart' look. She never knows when to shut up and listen, she kept speaking over her date, waving her hands around like a mad woman.

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rainbowsandunicorns said...

Deep sea fishing in Belize and other out of the norm, out there, expensive sports plus world traveler and avid reader tells me a lot about a person and what they are game for. A LOT.

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Would "playboy" be a word for it? Single and loving it?

And it doesn't involve settling down with a balls-grabbing woman with eight kids who is filmed going back to school shopping at a rural PA mall?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Whoa Sue, a few hours sounds like longer than Kate's date. Are you nervous? Who set you up with Vann and at what charity event?

Shall we debate will you or won't you tonight?

A date on a Tuesday night, you go girl!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Playboy and single and loving it: exactly.

I've online dated, and you really can get a good sense of a person by their profile and photos, even though it's brief. I can't say I really had any really terrible dates, but that was because I am very careful about which people I go out with. I don't go out with people whose online presence gave me an "off" feeling or "non-compatable" feeling. Playboy vibes would be out, etc.

I probably wouldn't date someone like Vann if he posted photos like he did. I wasn't looking for "playboy" or "single and loving it."

Just a hypothetical example, if someone's profile shows photos of them with family, some friends, a little traveling but not in excess, and maybe doing a reasonable hobby--plus a description of themselves that is well rounded and thoughtful, that says a lot to me. Lots of party photos, drinking and exotic things like deep sea fishing in Belize, not so much.

If you can't sum yourself up and who are you are in one profile you're doing something wrong. If someone is not able to get a good sense of who you are from it, something's wrong, and it may be why you're not getting dates.

ncgirl said...

Show recap:

http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/kate-plus-8-recap-kate-gosselin-goes-on-awkward-first-blind-date-w162086

Mel said...

Thus her sudden interest in deep sea fishing. She is nothing if not transparent. Foreshadowing on steroids.

Leslie said...

What is this guy's name? Somebody mentioned him being outed already. Where was he outed? What is his occupation? I don't think they are a match at all. He would either want to get serious with somebody that can bear him children or he doesn't want any kids. And if he doesn't want any kids I highly doubt he would be interested in her 8 kids and being a step-dad. His parents probably highly encouraged him to cut off contact with her. And I don't care if he is in his early 40's, his parents sound like they are close to him. The very fact that Kate is not close to hers would be a big turn off for this guy.

Boy, I bet he has gotten a load full of Kate Gosselin by now. It seemed he did not truly know much about her before the date. I can just imagne all the stuff people have told him, the artilces he has read, or the videos he has seen. Wait until he sees next week's episode where they show a lot of her bad moments. That ought to be an eye-opener for him.

If they did continue to date at all, I think it was done out of curiosity and not done in a serious manner at all.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Just those who want to live vicariously through her, apparently.

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Which is most likely 99 percent of the fans because such a high percentage of them are the teenies and 20-somethings and the rest of them are adults who wish they would have had the opportunities for fame and fortune that she did.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 3m3 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @talkitytash @TLC I think they wanted to make sure everyone thought it was last one...so no one missed it! #SneakyExecs

Milo, you idiot. If it were put out there as a finale, then that's what viewers thought it was. Final. Done. Last one. Then they won't check back to see if there is one next week and I would think that TLC would want to milk *every* episode.

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Do the sheep know the meaning of the word "finale?" They seemed to be confused about what "premiere" meant.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

TwitTart ‏@TwitTartwif 2h2 hours ago
@DonutsForCollin @Sassccha @Kateplusmy8 @TLC She claims she's still cutting their meat! What a whack a doodle.

Did she say this on one of these recent episodes?

Sue_Buddy said...

If you can't sum yourself up and who are you are in one profile you're doing something wrong. If someone is not able to get a good sense of who you are from it, something's wrong, and it may be why you're not getting dates.
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Kind of a "If you like pina coladas and getting caught in the rain thing? LOL

Leslie said...

Deanna said in the clip, "It is not like ALL the kids are going away on the weekends. You have kids here at all times. You are not getting any time out." She said that in the clip while doing her makeup. This is such bullshit. The woman is alone for close to 9 or more hours five days a week. That is more than 40 hours of alone time in her big house. Total silence if she wants it. Forty hours to do absolutely nothing. What other mothers can say that. Most are off working. And then add in the hours after the kids go to bed every night. And I do believe most of the kids see Jon a lot.And that probably includes a week night too. And shame on Kate for not making ALL the kids visit him. The court ordered it and they are too young to make this major decision themselves.

Kate is the one that wanted the kids. Hell, she knew she would have multiplies too after all those shots. And that was after having twins too. So I don't feels sorry for her at all.

I am so sick of her pity ways. And I read her facebook comments and they are again really blasting Mady again. And there are several comments telling Kate to stop using the word "like" so much.

Leslie said...

Looking on his facebook page under his interests (found his name) under his alumnae somebody wrote:
Apparently, Vann W**e is on TLC right now going on a blind date with Kate Gosselin..... Unless there is another Vann and I've been misled.
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-- O. M. G. No. 😑
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-- Dude lost his mind?
-- So many things can be said. But I'll just leave it right

I deleted the people's name but how embarrassing. Like I said in previous post I am sure he has gotten a ton of info about Kate Gosselin since their date and none of it has been good. It is her own fault though.

Leslie said...

Admin. what does #46 mean. And where did the single and playboy comment come from.

Leslie said...

I saw the episode at 11pm and I guessed it. There was only probably 2 minutes or less of the date shown on TV that was NOT in several of the previews. Shame on TLC. And it was so aggravating. They would show 30 seconds or so of the date and then go back to Kate talking on the couch. And I counted that Kate mentioned her kids SIX times during the date. And that does NOT count the time he asked about them. That is all she has to talk about. No way are they a match. Vann has a B.S., and two master degrees. She does not have any college. I saw his Goodreads very long list of books he has read and he is extremely well-read on politics, philosophy, and numerous other subjects. They are night and day different. And I love it-- his friends on the Naval Academy facebook page are already blasting him for going out with her.

swingsandroundabouts said...

After watching the clip that KIAT posted above with Kate involving the kids in her choice of outfit for her date, I was struck by the complete disorder of her closet. What a mess. She has never really had OCD nor is she in the slightest an organized person. That closet would drive me crazy. I was also struck by the clothes that still had price tags on. Just piecin' n patchin' I guess.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Leslie (#55), I found Deanna's comment about TFW deserving an adult night out utterly disingenuous, too. You mentioned her 9 hours of solitude every day, which I have also brought up in the past. But what about her trips away from home without the kids for work? Leaving for interviews in NYC and staying overnight? Being pampered in a hotel on someone else's dime? No homework, dinner and bedtime to handle on those days, huh? There are real-life single moms who have never, ever had such indulgences, and don't want a freaking medal for raising the kids they intentionally brought into the world.

Oh, and I seem to remember TFW being away from her young kids for a solid month doing Celebrity Apprentice. Guess Deanna has learned how to rewrite history, just like her buddy. Speaks volumes about her. And it's especially phony to me because Deanna directly benefited from this date: salary, screen time, and lots of attention.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

In the Us article, it says TFW said there couldn't be a good night kiss because her kids were going to be watching. Where was this concern when she was filmed getting her foot licked in a bar? And then waking up hung over the next morning?

And it said they showed Deanna introducing TFW to Vann, and that it was awkward. Do you really think their initial introduction was on camera? They may have spent an hour together before that scene was shot. The whole night reeks of desperation for ratings and attention.

Leslie said...

And what bull that Kate likes water. Didn't she say she can't swim? And she claims she loves to deep water fishing. Gee, how often does she do that. Only twice when it was filmed on TLC and probably never again. She probably knows nothing about it. And she has never been sailing like Vann either. She may have been once on a sailboat but I bet you she knows nothing about it.


And the organization that he likes has zero to do with her organization. I read his job description. And Kate's clothes closet was a mess.I am almost embarrassed for her that she it touting loving organization in this episode and then they show her closet. And by the way their is another closet in the bedroom too. All her shoes were jumbled together too. And she rearranged her bedroom so the bed is on the other wall between the two little windows. She has too much furniture in it. And I saw the big stand that holds her coffee pot. Is that for her to hide out in her bedroom away from her kids?

TLC stinks said...

LOL. I have good connections at Naval Academy. I'll let u know if I hear any scuttlebutt. I don't do Facebook but this is one time I wish I did.

Interesting comment about her closet. Tells it all, Miss Label Maker. LOL.

TLC stinks said...

"I think it’s good for her to put herself out there and find a husband, so she doesn’t die alone," contributed Mady, who was on hand to help her mother pick out an outfit. After finally selecting one, Deanna did Kate’s hair while they discussed how grown-up Mady had become. Kate's focus is always on her kids, after all.


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Thanks for that comment Mady. All alone. That's exactly how it will be. My parents were controlling and when I left home, I was GONE except for very occasional visits. Controlling parents drive you OUT.

TLC stinks said...

Leslie, it's Vann Walke.

TLC stinks said...

Jeff Millionaire must be toasting his escape with his new girlfriend.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 47
Playboy and single and loving it: exactly.
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Agree, and "playboy" in a good way. He's been unencumbered, is highly educated, has a solid career track, and enjoys the great outdoors.
This guy is motivated, driven and probably values the family and friends in his life.
I'd be shocked if he continues any alliance with Kate Gosselin.
On the surface, it seems he is a terrible match for her, except for maybe physical attraction.

Tucker's Mom said...

I actually think you can tell quite a bit from someone's social media presence. Look at Kate's.
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Kate's social media are perfect metaphors for her m.o. in life. Use people, do things half-assed, make promises and bail, and manipulate.
Oh, and inauthentic.

TLC stinks said...

Vann has a big circle of friends and interests just from what you can see online. He also posted pictures of his parents. This is one time opposites do not attract. I still don't understand what motivated him to do this show.

Leslie said...

I should clarify my comment about his facebook wasn't his personal facebook. It was the UnitedvStatesvNaval Academy:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/16446945189/

TLC stinks said...

I am embarrassed for him.

TLC stinks said...

n history since I’ve been divorced,' Kate, 40, explained at the start of the episode. 'And I’ve never gone on a blind date.’
The mom to twins and sextuplets, who split from husband Jon, her children's father, in 2009, added: ’In my quietest moments I do think that I might have to grow old alone, and that makes me sad.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3407829/Extremely-nervous-Kate-Gosselin-goes-blind-date-worries-grow-old-alone.html#ixzz3xn1duxz2
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TLC stinks said...

I was waiting for Radar's review!

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/kate-plus-8-season-4-kate-gosselin-blind-date/

What a catch! Living in New York City, Vann resides where there is quite literally a man shortage. Despite the plethora of single women to choose from in the Big Apple, Vann decided on none other than Kate Gosselin, mother-of-eight from Pennsylvania (that’s a red flag, ladies).

In any case, Vann and Kate took a helicopter ride over Manhattan, where Kate stuck to worldly topics like, “Oh the Statue of Liberty! I once took a boat around that,” or “I think there was a navy ship I visited in North Carolina.” She pretty much nailed it.

Then, the pair went to dinner at a fancy Italian restaurant in the city. Always the charmer, Kate laid some great lines on Vann the Navy Man. They were sweet nothings every man wants to hear on a first date: “I don’t date” and “I don’t get out of the house much.” No pressure, Vann.

These two had so much fun at dinner that they ordered some dessert and coffee. That’s where things really started to heat up! Just kidding, Kate brought up her kids again and Vann just nodded a lot.

TLC stinks said...

Leslie, what other stuff are the Academy guys saying on Facebook? I can only imagine since I am married to a former military guy myself.

TLC stinks said...

The trouble started over Labor Day weekend, when the source says Prescott got cold feet about filming Gosselin's reality show, Kate Plus 8. He ended up canceling production plans just two days before the New York City shoot, after months of planning and preparation.

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TLC had to work FAST to dig up Vann. What's his connection? I see he does donate (unlike Kate), so maybe it's true Deanna knew him from from charity event.

swimgirl said...

HAHAHAHA, love this comment from the Daily Mail...

Enoughplease, In the US, United States, 41 minutes ago
Why is she going on blind dates? Because no one knowing it's her would want to, even if they got paid to do it. And why is TLC trying to resurrect this train wreck show?


FlimsyFlamsy said...

So Deanna said she told Vann TFW was "a very hot blonde?" Are they high school girls? If I was trying to describe one of my best single girlfriends to a prospective date, I'd say things like, she's warm, smart, compassionate, hilarious,
down-to-earth, etc. Oh, but, wait -- TFW isn't any of those things. Guess Deanna was limited with her adjectives.

Twitter off or not, I still think Lites Out Vann is gonna have a looooong day.

foxy said...

At he Italian restaurant when the waiter brought them the first course, he said Bon Appetite, and Kate looks at Vann and said, "isn't that French?". Vann, with a puzzled look on his face, said yes and she said she thought so because her Mady takes French in school. Apparently she thought he should have spoken Italian to her. She really has no education or interests in anything other than herself.

TLC stinks said...

Why would this guy agree? Could it be it was literally a charity date? Like his TLC paycheck goes to a charity or TLC makes the donation? This guy does not need the date nor the notoriety. He's a good looking successful guy living in a city of beautiful women. Too bad we may never know. He gave her a cheek peck and Kate thought that was weird...she's weird and not physical at all. Could have been she was uncomfortable with you-know-who guarding the limo.

BTW, my theory: Jeff Prescott was Kate's beard for Steve. And Jeff figured it out.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

No one's brought this up yet, so I will!

How has this worldly guy never heard of the famous, amazing, legendary supermom Kate Gosselin? She is a household name! She causes riots at movie theaters, which is why she can't take her kids out! Venues have to shut down when she films! Even celebrities rock her old hair style on the red carpet! How could a star of her magnitude have eluded his notice?

Could it be...wait for it...that's she's really not as big of a deal as she thinks she is?

Sheeple Herder said...

I only saw a few minutes of the show and it was where Kate was getting spackled, I mean getting her make up done. When she started lamenting about how she never has time to herself, she misses talking to adults, etc I nearly lost my mind. Stop. Talking. Kate. Anyone with some sense knows the truth.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Funny that TFW felt uncomfortable having Vann kiss her on the cheek goodnight, but seemed to be fine and dandy with a total stranger dropping about a grand on their date. She was trying to act demure, but we know better.

redbird said...

What an idiot! She told Vann that there would be no good night kiss because her kids would be watching!

This was just an excuse because she is all in with Steve and this was just to keep filming and show me the money. When they were parting, Steve had to be there behind the camera or inside the limo.

That overhead shot of the limo was a whale!

It is ok for your kids to see you drunk and a man lick your barefoot but not see a nice young man give you a good night kiss because your kids are watching.

Ok. Filbert.

I hope that Vann comes out and says he did Pity Date with Kate so TLC would give a nice donation to his charity. But he probably can't because it maybe a stipulation in the CA.

Sideline Observer said...

‘I've gone on less than a handful of dates in history since I’ve been divorced,' Kate, 40, explained at the start of the episode. 'And I’ve never gone on a blind date.’

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Any serious blind date would've had to drink themselves "blind" in order to qualify.

No sober, rational guy would seriously want to date TFW; anybody showing up in that stead would have to be play-acting.

JudyK said...

Everyone knows I've never been a Kate fan. I've seen a few of her shows in this new lineup and found her to be less than genuine in her couch interviews with the contrived facial contortions.

However, I just don't find fault with her like I used to. Although I thought the newest episodes were beyond boring, I actually enjoyed the one last night and found her to be natural. He's such a nice guy, and I think they could be a good couple. He seems to make her comfortable to just be herself.

Also, that house is clean and those kids are clean, well-dressed, well-fed, and happy. I think Mady is a mouthy brat sometimes, but she's a teenager.

I know you are wondering if this is the same Judy who used to post such negative things about Kate...can hardly believe it myself!

JudyK said...

"foxy said... 79
"At he Italian restaurant when the waiter brought them the first course, he said Bon Appetite, and Kate looks at Vann and said, "isn't that French?". Vann, with a puzzled look on his face, said yes and she said she thought so because her Mady takes French in school. Apparently she thought he should have spoken Italian to her. She really has no education or interests in anything other than herself."
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Uh, oh, I totally missed that. Truth is I slept through some of it and then caught the tail end of it when I woke up on a later repeat. EVERYONE knows what "Bon Appetite" means. Well, I may take back a few of the nice things I said earlier.

redbird said...

When they were showing the closet, I was surprised that how mediocre and ordinary it was.

Except, the NWT's clothing.

I thought it would be like one of those closets that a decorator had come in and organized it with a wooden cabinets, shelves, necklace organizers, purses, shoes stacked and place neatly.

What is she setting this up for another show idea? Closets and De-Clutter a working title?

JudyK said...

"Bon Appetit"...should have proofread. Crawling back into my cave now.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Also, that house is clean and those kids are clean, well-dressed, well-fed, and happy.


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Waves to Judy!

The only part I really disagree with strongly is the happy part. The kids are nervous, pent-up, whiny, put upon, negative, parentified, burdened, tired, and have complete control over their parent. I simply do not believe that kind of environment can possibly make a child happy even if that child thinks that's what they want.

I don't think they are happy at all most of the time. They have a heck of a lot of negative emotions they are not able to just release and move on from, for whatever reason. It's a very stressful, unhappy household.

JudyK said...

Waving back Adm!

Have to admit I've only watched portions of the shows and that I have been surprised to hear some of the kids being so negatively outspoken. Have also noticed how some of them appear truly depressed during some of their couch interviews.

MikeB said...

I think TLC is calling this the finale because it is the last of the shows featuring original content.

Next week's episode is going to consist of Kate looking at scenes from past seasons and then telling the audience what she would do differently now. It is essentially a recap. Kind of like the "Decade of Kate" episode that aired back in the Spring.

Tucker's Mom said...

The house is clean when they're filming and I'm sure the set is cleaned professionally by tlc. We've no clue what shape it's in when the cameras are gone.
The bedrooms look anywhere from meh, to pig stye.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

One other point I tend to disagree with and that is that Mady's behavior is just teen behavior. I just don't agree. It's too much, it's too constant, and it crosses the line time and time again. Also, just because someone is being a normal teen doesn't mean they should not be corrected by the adults. For example, Mady telling Kate she is stupid is IMO completely unacceptable behavior that should have been reprimanded firmly.

A clean house does not make a happy home. Better to have it a little messy, but lived in and happy, then immaculate. Plenty of child abusers of the past have kept tidy homes. Plenty of narcissists have kept tidy homes but were not what they should have been to their children. Mine did. Nothing out of place, never any dust, no toys out, no coloring book pages on the fridge. Nothing.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I don't think that will ever be a truly happy household for the G kids until their mother stops
treating their father like an enemy. Just my opinion. When she maligns him, she is dismissing half of her children's DNA. Cruel and unnecessary.

redbird said...

If he would of told me "Bon Appetite", I would of repeated it and said, One of my favorite French foods is Vichyssoise.

She could of very easily just repeated it and not said anything else. She really showed how really out of touch she is. Who doesn't know Julia Child and "Bon Appetite"? She made that famous!

I learned what vichyssoise was on the Brady Bunch when Alice went out on a date from a man she went to school with. He was actually trying to scam her for her money. They ate at a French restaurant and the appetizer was vichyssoise. Alice said that vichyssoise was a really fancy name for cold potato soup!

I just loved that scene because I used to make potato soup all the time. The kind that tastes like Shoney's.

Gigi Be said...

Who else thinks that Kate is still pushing for some type of spin off dating show?
I wonder if TLC is testing the waters to see what kind of interest this episode generates. It's like beating a dead horse. Wish Kate would let this idea go. But I guess she's very limited

JudyK said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 94
One other point I tend to disagree with and that is that Mady's behavior is just teen behavior. I just don't agree. It's too much, it's too constant, and it crosses the line time and time again. Also, just because someone is being a normal teen doesn't mean they should not be corrected by the adults. For example, Mady telling Kate she is stupid is IMO completely unacceptable behavior that should have been reprimanded firmly.
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Totally agree. No child should ever be allowed to speak that way to a parent w/o being reprimanded.

As I said, I've only seen portions here and there, so it appears I've missed a lot.

Mea Culpa here.

redbird said...

So funny, on Home and Family this morning,
Eve Plumb (Jan Brady) is on as is Leeza Gibbons.

TLC stinks said...

On the surface and for filming, everything LOOKS normal, except what gives it away to me are the kids' bedrooms (which should not filmed) because they do not look like anything 11 yr olds and teens actually decorate. Why does she have to control even the sanctuary of their bedrooms?

MikeB said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 83
Funny that TFW felt uncomfortable having Vann kiss her on the cheek goodnight, but seemed to be fine and dandy with a total stranger dropping about a grand on their date. She was trying to act demure, but we know better.
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Assuming the article about Jeff Millionaire dropping out at the last minute is true (and I think it is), all the activities were planned well in advance of Deanna digging Vann up to play Kate's date. TLC would have needed to make sure their filming was allowed in the places they went.

You can bet that everything Kate did was planned and paid for by TLC and was originally supposed to feature Jeff Millionaire. Vann just took his place at the last minute.

KellyAnne said...

Sue_Buddy said...
Kind of a "If you like pina coladas and getting caught in the rain thing? LOL

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That quote was in my Match.com profile when I met my now husband. It wasn't there because I like either Pina coladas or getting caught in the rain. I quoted it as irony poking fun at the whole online dating thing, and at myself for partaking.

My DH's Match profile did nothing to show me who he really is, and I only responded to his email because I thought he was cute in his pictures. It wasn't until we talked extensively by phone that I decided I was interested enough to meet him in person. Ten happy years later, I'm glad I did decide to meet him. But that decision definitely didn't come from a the few sentences and pictures posted on an online dating site.

TLC stinks said...

The reason for the next show is twofold: TLC had a contract to air eight episodes and to show that Kate has evolved into a better parent to stifle the critics. Another season is planned, I have no doubt. Why else answer the critics?

AuntieAnn said...

Sheeple Herder said... 82

When she started lamenting about how she never has time to herself, she misses talking to adults, etc I nearly lost my mind.

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Well for starters, in order to talk to other adults, she needs to drop the valley girl talk and learn to speak like an adult.

And second, try to talk about something or someone other than herself.

redbird said...

On the preview of the show next week, she is going back and changing history again. Collin is in the kitchen crying about his lovey and she is throwing it in the sink and griping.

Then they show her and she said, Oh, it didn't go in the trash! He has it still today, like poo-poo it away, like it was nothing.

I clearly remember on the original airing when this verbal meltdown attack on this little boy was happening, she was jumping up and down, screaming. I haven't been able to find that part. They edited it out. I have said this many times here. The original DVD's that were sold I believe were not edited. It shows TFW in all of her raging, narcissist glory.

Sheeple Herder said...

"I don't really get out of the house much."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
So glad the editing team left that gem in!!

Leslie said...

I think this guy is highly social. You can tell by the organizations he belongs to on his facebook and his 600 plus friends. He was approached to do a reality tv program and probably thought he would never get that chance again. I think he dated Kate just for the fun and the experience of it. He seems like that type of person. And it was something that he could have on tape the rest of his life.

I don't think he knew what a terrible reputation she had. And I wonder if he is secretly pissed at Deanna for holding back from him. I wonder how long he had from the time he said yes to the filming the episode. He may have signed a contract too fast before he signed up. I bet TLC got him that contract super fast before he could back out. I bet on it! He lives in NY which is close to TLC headquarters in MD.

Jamesvader1194 said...

You know im hoping at the very least the views could be a solid 1 million.Maybe if were lucky it didn't reach 1 million,but since this world is so backwards these days.Im gonna say this got 2 million views.

reader said...

Comments from fb, Naval Academy alum hearing news.
"That woman is a reality star, Google her name. Seems a terrible person."
"So many things can be said. But I'll just leave it right there."
"Dude lost his mind?"
"O.M.G. No."
"Someone needs to give him the brick."

reader said...

Everyone leaves eventuality. Prescott caught on much more quickly than most!
Kate has spoken her m.o. out loud several times.."You should be thinking what can I do for (Kate)."

redbird said...

Your right, MikeB. I posted earlier that when arrangements were being made, JEFF was the date. When he starting smelling a skunk, he bolted.

After TLC got their princess calmed down, they were having the luck of the Irish when Deanna went to a charity event and happened to meet Vann.

Viola, replacement.

But what if the charity event was a bachelor auction? Did Deanna bid and win him for a date and then she told him that he was going out with Kate from Kate Plus 8?

The poster that said that TFW's outfit getting into the helicopter reminded of her NYC ice cream run outfit. The camera shot of showing Deanna, Kate and Vann by the helicopter where you could see her looks exactly like it, but just different colors.

The shoes look like the same ones, though.

Funny, how she said that there would be no goodnight kiss because her kids were watching but when she jumped on the double decker bus to deliver the melted ice cream she shoves the hello out of one or two of the kids back hard.

What a mom!

reader said...

Why does Kate put up with the very rude intentionally cruel remarks from Mady?
Saw a clip of shopping, At a checkout counter, maybe school shopping. The look on Mady's face, had she been an adult I would say the look was threatening. Her words..mean! Then the look on Kate's face wss defeat, she was clearly holding her tongue. Why?
The queen of slamming doors, driving off in a huff, screaming puts up with vitriol from a teen.
Not one for conspiracy theory, I wonder, is this blackmail?
Mady certainly holds some power in the wreckage that is the broken Gosselin family. Is Kate afraid Mady will tell Jon something? The public?
I agree with others here, Mady's behavior is worrisome.

Leslie said...

Somebody said this on the USNA-Class of 94 facebook page about Vann's date. "Someone needs to give him the brick". Anybody know what that means.

Wowser said...

I said the same thing Aunt Annie....this guy has several degrees, is well read and she sounded like a 13 year old. You cannot tell me that wasn't a turn off to this guy.

PatK said...

I don't understand some of the fan tweets to Kate about her hair looking beautiful on the date. I've only seen the still picture of her at the table with Mr. Lites Out Vann, and I think her hair looks like crap. Her straight hair in the couch interview stills looks much better than it did for the "blind date".

Sheeple Herder said...

"I don't get out of the house much."
HAHAHAHAHA
Thank you editing team for leaving that gem in!!

Ex Nurse said...

JudyK, I agree with everything you said.

I think that the first date was very touching. He reminds me of someone I know who also came from the Naval Academy--polite, engaged, genuinely happy to meet just about anyone. And, as Admin said, up for anything. So, as Kate said, maybe he was just being polite, but, from his body language, he seemed interested and genuinely engaged. Awkward as hell, of course! Anything else would have to be scripted and carried out by a skilled actress--which she is not!

I also think that Deanna and Kate have a nice relationship. It does revolve around Kate, but so what, who cares? I am glad she has at least one person left in her life, who is kind and supportive. I do think that Kate is aware of how off-putting she is and is trying to change.

The kids seemed to have a great time making their pizzas. All In all, they are all pretty immature for their ages, compared to my kids at that age, which I think is because they lead a sheltered life--as did Kate.

As far as the content of the conversation, I thought that it was fine that they began a serious discussion about their expectations and ideals of a relationship were. It seemed to have evolved naturally, although, of course it was uncomfortable.

All in all, it was one of the more human portrayals I have seen. It was good to see Kate get out of her comfort zone. There were moments that they seemed very relaxed, and it didn't seem scripted.

He seems like a really good guy, but, who knows if he has the ability or willingness to commit. His history predicts that he won't. But, this could be an example of perfect timing--stranger things have happened!

I think she tried to not throw Jon under the bus, by saying that it was her mistake that she settled too soon. But, of course she did!

IMO, there is movement in the right direction, and it was a kinder and gentler Kate than we saw last night. It is easy to pick her apart, and of course that will be done by those that truly despise her. I don't care enough to despise her, so I see someone who is struggling to change and is just another fellow human being. I wish for her what I wish for everyone--a normal life that will have its triumphs and challenges, joys and grief and a sense of belonging.

Ducking down now...


Carole said...

Kate could suck it up buttercup and just be nice about Jon. Always. No exceptions. No snide remarks about settling and all the other BS she spews. If one narcissist could do it for the children, so can she.

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But, being the scorned and put-upon wife is TFW's brand and she'd never consider doing anything that would tarnish that shining identity she's worked so hard to maintain.

Carole said...

The Nielsen ratings discussion is getting more interesting and complicated. They plan to add Facebook to their 'Social Content Ratings' (I didn't know they had such a thing and now that I do, I wonder if they publish it or if it is just for insider use) and include it w/the numbers from Twitter.

"The development of Social Content Ratings reflects Nielsen's commitment to continually adapt our services to meet the needs of the industry and is part of Nielsen's ongoing effort to evolve our measurement to reflect the total audience across screens and platforms," said Nielsen Social president. "Nielsen Social measurement is evolving to provide a comprehensive, standardized picture of how consumers are responding to program content through social media, wherever and whenever."

"The increased data should give networks and other content providers a better gauge of how effective their social marketing strategies are and insight into the relationship between social activity and tune-in. While Twitter has long been considered the main social platform when it comes to TV-related social conversation, adding Facebook—and its 330 million peak-hour users—will only enhance the scope."


http://www.adweek.com/news/television/nielsen-will-add-facebook-its-social-ratings-measure-conversation-around-tv-169095

Jamesvader1194 said...

This tweet from Goody brings up what i said before and i'll say it again.If Kate was truly dating this guy,there's no way they'd be able to keep it private without a pap or someone spotting the 2 at a certain location whether its at his house or hers or some place.Unless the paps could careless MsGoody2Shoes21
‏@msgoody2shoes21
@Chablis4u @Kateplusmy8 @TLC It's been a few months since the filming. I got a hunch they've been on several dates privately. #NoCameras

MikeB said...

Jamesvader1194 said... 104
You know im hoping at the very least the views could be a solid 1 million.Maybe if were lucky it didn't reach 1 million,but since this world is so backwards these days.Im gonna say this got 2 million views.
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I didn't see a much cross-promotion on the other Discovery networks I watch. There was quite a bit for the new Little Couple episode but absolutely nothing about Kate. I predict stable ratings of around 1.2 million for the week.

I don't think we'll see ratings released today. For some reason they lag by a day some times. As of now Monday cable ratings haven't been released yet. I think Monday will come out today and we'll have to wait until tomorrow to see how the date episode fared.

Leslie said...

Great thinking MikeB..."I think TLC is calling this the finale because it is the last of the shows featuring original content."
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I wonder if Kate gets the full amount that she normally gets for an episode. But then again she had the tremendously arduous task of narrating the episode (snark!) sitting on her butt in her basement.

Also I think Vann did the show for the experience of being on TV and just for the fun of it. He sounds like he is highly social from his facebook organizations. I think TLC probably had him sign a contract so stinking fast that his head probably spun. And I don't think he needed the money nor was it a factor but maybe there was something special he wanted the money for. He probably thought what the hell...a helicopter ride at night over Manhattan and a fancy meal. What is the harm. TLC was not going to let somebody that great get away from them. Also they probably wanted him to sign fast so he could not research Kate and her terrible reputation. I wonder if Vann is pissed at Deanna for holding back info about how bad of a reputation Kate has.

Also what is so pitiful is when Kate goes on and on with Deanna saying that she INSISTED that Deanna tell Vann she had eight kids. Well, I am sure he knew it was for a reality show. And I am sure he asked the name of it. Duh, Kate Plus Eight, I mean really the audience is not that dumb.

Blowing In The Wind said...

I wonder if Vann is pissed at Deanna for holding back info about how bad of a reputation Kate has.

Also what is so pitiful is when Kate goes on and on with Deanna saying that she INSISTED that Deanna tell Vann she had eight kids. Well, I am sure he knew it was for a reality show. And I am sure he asked the name of it. Duh, Kate Plus Eight, I mean really the audience is not that dumb.

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If he knew it was for a reality show, then I would think that he would know what show it was, the date was with Kate. He doesn't appear to be a stupid guy. He would have done his homework. Why would he be upset with Deanna for holding back info on Kate's reputation? He's a big boy and he could have done just a little bit of googling about her and found out right away how much she is disliked.

Does anyone actually believe that the two weren't briefed about each other before the date? I don't know if they met or not before then, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

TLC stinks said...

Leslie, to hit his thick head? Never heard it used that way so really not a clue, but it's not a compliment.

Wowser said...

My husband was in the army...not sure if it's the same in the navy but...in the army when a recruit would screw up they would tell them to get a BFR (big f'n Rock...generally a brick) and they had to name it and carry it with them wherever they went to remind them never to screw up like that again....my guess? It's the same and his buds are saying a BFR beats a TFW

TLC stinks said...

Leslie, he owns also a townhouse in Annapolis. The sale was in the Washington Post, over one million.

Deanna thinks Kate is wonderful so she would not have clued him in on the negative publicity. The guy should have Googled Kate before he signed up for anything. He won't live this down with his male pals.

Leslie said...

Ex-Nurse and Judy, I can somewhat see a what you are both saying. In this episode Kate was nice and the kids behaved overall. But I do disagree that just because Kate said SHE settled that it was fine for her to say it. It is still a slam to Jon, isn't it? If I say it was my fault I settled too soon and married my ex, I am still saying that he was not good enough for me and therefore I settled. She is saying he was below her. But he was good enough to beg him for more multiplies after having twins, wasn't he? He was apparently good enough to renew their vows in 2008 and a year later separated. I thought that comment was rude and uncalled for. Especially when she has 8 kids by him whom will be watching the show.

And then her telling Vann that whoever she dates will have to be tough enough to handle eight kids. My goodness, what a comment to turn a guy off. He only signed up (literally) for a helicopter ride and a meal. He did not sign up to take on eight kids. It is a no-no to talk about your ex on a first date.

And another rude comment was when Deanna said that she is never alone because all the kids do not go away on the weekends. And Kate sighed and said, "yeah". And I feel very strongly she had Kate's permission to say that. Poor Kate, she only has 8 to 9 hours alone in her home 5 days a week. And that does not include the night time hours when the kids are in bed. That is 40 hours a week of alone time so stop the pity party that she never gets time away. And that does not include the numerous trips she takes away from her kids. Remember this is the woman who stated that it worked best for her to be gone a week and then home a week from her kids. Remember she didn't say she HAD to work a week away from home; but that it worked best for her family. And she had eight very small kids at the time. This woman is so pampered and has of tons of time to cater to just herself with manicures, pedicures, massages, and shopping. It is just another insult to Jon about him not having all the kids on the weekends. She has been divorced six years and it is tiring & wrong all the subtle (and subtle) bashing she does of Jon.

And if she wants more adult conversation, she could do volunteer work during her 40 hours of free time. No, she only wants the public to feel sorry for her.

Leslie said...

Thanks Wowser for the explanation. I figured it was negative.

PA Dutch Mom said...

All In all, they are all pretty immature for their ages, compared to my kids at that age, which I think is because they lead a sheltered life--as did Kate.

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Kate did not lead a sheltered life!

PA Dutch Mom said...

Why did Vann make the decision to go on a blind date with Kate and have it filmed? For fun! He sounds like a guy who likes to try new things, new adventures, is very social, and is up for anything. With a personality like that, he probably said, "Okay, I'm game. Let's do it."

PA Dutch Mom said...

It looks like Kate will be able to test the industrial strength of her deck this weekend. I kept hoping that the storm would go farther south and miss us, but according to latest computer models, we are in for a real dumping. The term "blizzard" is being thrown around by the weather services and that's rarely done.

Get ready for pictures of the deck. Hasn't Milo given Kate any advance warning of the storm?

Rainbirdie said...

For all the hype, it sure was a boring episode. It was basically the same conversation over & over - Kate is nervous, has never been on a blind date, is nervous, has 8 kids, is nervous - with "like" thrown into each sentence at least twice. Kate & Deanna were even worse than Mady & Cara in that department - it was, like, painful to listen to the two women, like, have a conversation...

Wowser said...

Rain birdie....I thought it was funny that miss "English is my favorite subject" kept insulting her paid friend/makeup artist Deanna every time she said "I'm so disheveled and nervous" after Deanna had spent hours glamming her up for that date. She has no idea the meaning of words. Lol

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Gosh, TFW admitted that the cameras made her feel uncomfortable. Now imagine being 11, and having cameras filming you for the majority of your life, whether you want them there or not. I'm not ready to cut her any slack yet, if only for that reason.

TLC stinks said...

PA Dutch Mom, I agree but add to that he was flattered to be asked to appear in a reality show. We got to remember, this was a fake date. He was vetted and got the part, and that is what it was. A Part in a show. Period. Instead of a romantic date with Jeff as scheduled, TLC came up with the blind date scenario. They are desperate to inject some new ideas into a very stale show.

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Lex2Cents ‏@Lexis2usc 10m10 minutes ago
Lex2Cents Retweeted MercyMe80
Love this tweet! Sorry k8 fans but this is how @kateplusmy8 works. Won't keep u informed UNLESS TLC pays her 2 do it

Not one to defend Kate, but I'm not sure if that's true. It could very well be that TLC controls the PR, and it may be in the contract that the network is the first to release info, and she is bound by that. They are telling her how much, if any, gets publicized, and when. Being paid has nothing to do with it.

AuntieAnn said...

JudyK said... 86

Although I thought the newest episodes were beyond boring, I actually enjoyed the one last night and found her to be natural.

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I'd like to say the same but Kate has duplicity down to a science. She's too cunning to be trusted, imo. Years of watching her manipulate people makes me wary of her motives because Kate is always looking out for Kate.

Lucy Ellen said...

IMO the Deana met him at a charity auction is the fictional cover story. What were they going to say - TLC was beating the bushes for someone to play the role of Kate's date ? Vann is probably a friend of someone at TLC/Discover and agreed to be the last minute fill in for the guy that bailed and left them stranded. No offense to Deanna but I doubt that she has the extra money to attend charity auctions in NYC. And if she did, why would she hand a catch like him off to Kate ? She's single too... I find it hard to believe that he and Deanna are friends - they don't travel in the same circles socially or in business. I would think the same 'friend of Deanna' story line was going to be used for Jeff too.

I thought Vann was a very charming man. I don't think Kate is the woman he has been waiting all his life for though. I doubt they have had any more dates.

Over And Out said...

IMO, there is movement in the right direction, and it was a kinder and gentler Kate than we saw last night. It is easy to pick her apart, and of course that will be done by those that truly despise her. I don't care enough to despise her, so I see someone who is struggling to change and is just another fellow human being.

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I doubt it. It could just be TLC trying yet another tactic to pull the wool. I don't despise her. I have just seen enough of the different personas she has tried on, and none of them seems to work, such as the can-do Kate, the charity Kate, the organic Kate, the dedicated running Kate, and so forth. It's the story of the Boy Who Cried Wolf. Perhaps one of these days she may be serious about a kinder, softer Kate, but because of her history, there will only be a few people who actually believe it.

Do narcissists ever change their spots unless there is something in it for them?

reader said...

FlimsyFlamsy (34)
Amen!

redbird said...

When Deanna and Kate were hugging goodbye when Kate was about to get on the helicopter with Vann, they were hugging and Kate whispered to Deanna, I Love You. I think Deanna said the same thing. I can't remember her saying it.

When Kate and Deanna were walking up to the building Kate said, Deanna, don't leave until I am ready. So, if she decided she didn't like the date they had it worked a bug out plan?

Oh, I looked up brick on urban dictionary.

It means to punch.

Poor guy!

Rainbirdie said...

In the limo, Deanna asked if Kate had gone on a blind date in her "dating days". Kate explains "growing up, I don't think I had a philosophy on dating. Who even thought about it? Not me." Later she said that blind dates are awkward, "that's probably why I've had a no blind date policy my whole life". She's making it up as she goes along.

Leslie said...

Oh, Admin, mentioned Vann made a comment (I think) about being single, alone and loving it. Also the word playboy was used. Does anybody know where these terms were used and did Vann himself say these things? And also does anybody know if Vann's twitter account had been on "no show" status before the airing of the show. I used the term no show (can't see his tweets)because I don't know the correct term. Thanks!

redbird said...

It is so disgusting that TFW has to brainwash people with the lie that she never gets time alone away from the kids.

Do they go to school? Yes. Then she has 40 hours a week, 5 days a week from drop off to pick up without them. They do go see their dad on the weekends, not all go, but most.

How does she sleep at night knowing she has told lie after lie over and over again on anything or anybody for decades?

Over And Out said...

No offense to Deanna but I doubt that she has the extra money to attend charity auctions in NYC.

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You can attend a charity auction without needing money. I have gone to quite a few where no cash is required up front. It isn't mandatory that you buy something. Maybe she went as a guest of someone else who paid. Anything is possible.

It could have been networking for her, a chance to meet people in the entertainment and business industry. I don't doubt the story. It's plausible. What I do question is if Kate and the date met prior to filming.

Rainbirdie said...

Hey Kate, can we stop pretending that Andrea is just another friend helping out with the kids? She is so obviously a nanny. It was nice to see the kids actually looking relaxed & having fun making the pizzas although it was (yawn)..boring.

Kate is a twit said...

Sheepless In Seattle said... 54
TwitTart ‏@TwitTartwif 2h2 hours ago
@DonutsForCollin @Sassccha @Kateplusmy8 @TLC She claims she's still cutting their meat! What a whack a doodle.

Did she say this on one of these recent episodes?
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She said it in the episode during the couch interview, talking about how she was just focusing being in the moment while on her date.

"Oh, isn't this awesome to have a night out. To have dinner with an adult. To not have to cut someone's meat up...".

BTW, for those interested the episode is now online. The above part is at approximately 34:59.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3mydwg_kate-plus-8-season-4-episode-7-full-episode-s04e07-blind-date_tv

Get medicated..... said...

Did anyone notice at the end he had a ring on his wedding finger? Someone may have mentioned it already but I haven't read any comments yet. I know she wears one on that finger as well but I think it's unusual for a man.

Lanc Native said...


Nurse said...
"I don't care enough to despise her, so I see someone who is struggling to change and is just another fellow human being."

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I have some swampland to sell you. Come over here and watch her in action, up close and personal, when she's dealing with fellow human beings! She is what she is, and I really don't think that's ever going to change. I'd like to believe that she could, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

Leslie said...

Remember on the Today show with Kathy Kate mentioned some real life twists and turns of how this date came to be that are surprising. It turns out they did not discuss this on the show but my guess is they probably signed Vann up fast when Jeff bailed.

Here it is at 2:05 mark:
http://www.today.com/video/growing-up-fast-kate-gosselin-dishes-on-the-return-of-kate-plus-8-577907779697

Get medicated..... said...

Also, Ex nurse, I agree that it was a kinder and gentler Kate we saw. I sincelerly hope she wants to be that person.

Rainbirdie said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 129
All In all, they are all pretty immature for their ages, compared to my kids at that age, which I think is because they lead a sheltered life--as did Kate.

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Kate did not lead a sheltered life!
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I agree - in spite of implying that was the case with the 'I went to a very small Christian school' explanation, she was involved in cheerleading, performed in school plays, went to school dances etc:
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/kate-gosselins-high-school-yearbook-pics-2009188/1183

And during her blind date, she said her favorite job as a teenager was working at Hershey Park.

Definitely not what I consider "sheltered".

Rainbirdie said...

In the limo with Deanna, she said that she wasn't a mom when she last dated. At the dinner with Vann, she said she can count on one hand the number of dates she's gone on since she's been divorced.

Tucker's Mom said...

She's making it up as she goes along.
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Right there is your nugget of truth ;-). That's the only constant when it comes to Kate.
The show is fake. The date was fake. What you see is what TLC wants you to see. Its all manipulation and people buy into it over and over again, and not just Kate's shoe.
People get invested in most reality shows they like because they think they're witnessing life in situ. It's not.
What I know as fact is that Kate has and will continue to use her children for fame, money, access, freebies and privilege. Those thing are immutable.

Lanc Native said...


"Oh, isn't this awesome to have a night out. To have dinner with an adult. To not have to cut someone's meat up...".

She has dinner with Steve and I also would expect, Deanna. Aren't they adults?

Rainbirdie said...

The dinner date did show that Kate has table manners that she uses when she wants to. And Vann came across as a very nice man. He did say that he had never seen the show, which is not surprising since he's not exactly TLC's target audience. And he was very diplomatic in his comments after the date. IMO he was a good choice for the special guest star roll of "date".

Lanc Native said...

Leslie said...
"Oh, Admin, mentioned Vann made a comment (I think) about being single, alone and loving it. Also the word playboy was used. Does anybody know where these terms were used and did Vann himself say these things?"

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No. Rainbows made the comment in (46) and admin (48) posted a response agreeing with her.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I posted earlier that when arrangements were being made, JEFF was the date. When he starting smelling a skunk, he bolted.


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I agree with this, and I think with their second go around with Vann, they found someone quick with little notice so there wouldn't be time for Vann to catch up and figure out the shitstorm he was about to walk into. He was prime for the taking, a "sure I'm up for whatever!" type guy. It's hilarious his buddies are now like, dude what were you thinking! That's the point, he didn't give this much thought.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I also think that Deanna and Kate have a nice relationship. It does revolve around Kate, but so what, who cares?


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That's not a "relationship." That's a toady. But the toady consents, so.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I second that, she had far from a sheltered life.
Actually, her childhood seems pretty darn Americana to me. I understand she didn't like it but that's her subjective opinion. Boo hoo, she had to do landscaping on Saturdays.

Just because your parents can't afford grand vacations to tropical locations twice a year plus a New Year's ski trip doesn't mean you're sheltered. PA is not really a sheltered place to grow up. People from there are normal.

Tucker's Mom said...

He was prime for the taking, a "sure I'm up for whatever!" type guy. It's hilarious his buddies are now like, dude what were you thinking! That's the point, he didn't give this much thought.
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He's obviously up for adventure and sure, why not? Now, 43/44 is a bit old to be so devil may care, but maybe that shows where his mindset still is in life.
Any which way I cut it, it's not a match.
Next!

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 154

I also think that Deanna and Kate have a nice relationship. It does revolve around Kate, but so what, who cares?


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That's not a "relationship." That's a toady. But the toady consents, so.
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It's an asymmetrical relationship, to say the least. At this point, Deanna is fully woven into Kate's life, is a de facto cast member and producer, and joins in the ranks of people who benefit from filming children.
I've no benevolent or equivocal feelings about her anymore.

Sketchy Gosselin said...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3mydwg_kate-plus-8-season-4-episode-7-full-episode-s04e07-blind-date_tv

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Thank you for posting the link to the episode, Kate is a Twit!
Check out 6:43 into the video where Deanna is doing her makeup. WHY is her complexion SO BAD? I thought she ate healthy and such.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

In the limo, Deanna asked if Kate had gone on a blind date in her "dating days". Kate explains "growing up, I don't think I had a philosophy on dating. Who even thought about it? Not me."

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A blind date is not a philosophy. What? It's just a blind date. Either you've gone on a blind date in your dating days or you haven't.

She always answers simple questions so awkwardly and weird. I go back and forth sometimes wondering if she's on the spectrum after all.

TLC stinks said...

I think he wears his Annapolis class ring.

Sketchy Gosselin said...

In the episode, while in the limo ride, she says something like "maybe I should go on a blind date every week!" Yup - that was the hint that she wants a dating show.

Tucker's Mom said...

She always answers simple questions so awkwardly and weird. I go back and forth sometimes wondering if she's on the spectrum after all.
January 20, 2016 at 1:19 PM
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Kate is inarticulate and I would imagine the reasons are deep-seated and complex. I think her sense of pride and bravado over her "Kate-isms" are an overcorrection for profound weakness.
Deep down, she knows her oratory skills are sorely lacking and that has to be embarrassing.
Her communications skills are about on level with a 6th grader.
That's not me ripping on Kate either. I think she struggles to keep up intellectually.

TLC stinks said...

I do not believe ANYTHING that comes out of Kate Gosselin's botoxed mouth. NADA. She is a compulsive and habitual liar who manipulates the people around her. Of course she is gentler, kinder Kate because that is what she is selling. She's not changing her stripes and I doubt she's in therapy. This is all about custody. All about filming. All about money.

Leslie said...

Hey Admin., you mentioned that Vann said single and loving it. Also there was the word playboy used. Where did you see this? And were this Vann's words?Also do you know if his twitter closed was private before the airing of the show? Thanks for all your help and running a great blog.

Mel said...

Kate did not lead a sheltered life!

Anybody living with their boyfriend's family during their teen years is not living a sheltered life, imo.

She acts like her family was Amish or something.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sounds like things were awkward for TFW. Maybe the twins should've gone along and clapped impatiently and said, "Spit it out!" as she struggled to find her words while keenly aware of the camera's presence.

Kate is a twit said...

In the beginning of the show when the kids were helping Kate pick out what she was going to wear on her date, they showed several shots of Kate's bedroom.

For someone who claims to be so "organizationalish"(which she also told her date), the top of her desk was a total mess, with papers and stuff scattered everywhere.

They also zoomed in on a picture of Kate and Jamie which was in a frame that said "Friends". Guess that was to show that Kate has a least 2 friends, Jamie and Deanna.

BTW, this date was definitely filmed in September after the deck was installed. You could see parts of the deck when they showed the kids cooking.

redbird said...

Get medicated..... said... 151
Also, Ex nurse, I agree that it was a kinder and gentler Kate we saw. I sincelerly hope she wants to be that person.

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Then why did Deanna say that Kate never gets to be alone, even on the weekends.

If TFW was sincerely trying to improve her image and be a kinder, gentler person the line of BS that Deanna said would not of been said.

She wouldn't of allowed it.

jolie Jacquelyn said...

I wonder if Vann thought playing TFW's date might lead to him being on the next Bachelor show.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#156), didn't you mean to say "wait, what?"
It's what all the cool 40-year-olds are sayin'!

jolie Jacquelyn said...

I noticed how wrinkled her forehead was in the dinner scene. Then miracle of miracles, it was all shiny & completely smooth when she was doing the the couch interview. De-ageing?

Mel said...

This is old... from 2011. They're talking about TFW wearing her 3" heels. You know, the heels that she 'never wears'.

http://www.imperfectparent.com/blog/2011/06/21/kate-plus-8-add-to-the-list-of-why-kate-gosselin-disgusts-me/

"She coyly tells the camera that playing with her children on their level is something that she can’t do in high heels.

My question to Kate Gosselin is this — why in the HELL are you wearing 3″ inch heels to go race car driving. I mean really. Who does that??

I suppose being single and having 47 children, it’s difficult to find somebody to date who isn’t in it for the short celebrity cycle and potential money, so maybe she thinks that she has to wear her “come eff me shoes” and bat her eyelashes to get her some booty or more disturbingly, to get her “sexy” on. (BTW, blech, that eye-lift didn’t do you any favors Kate.)"

Mel said...

Another article from 2011 talking about TFW and those damned heels. You know, the ones she 'never wears'.

http://hollywoodlife.com/pics/kate-gosselin-kate-plus-eight-australia-episode/

"We must admit, it was quite the feat watching Kate make her way through the airport in an itty bitty jean skirt and stilettos"


Mel said...

From a review of the hot air balloon episode, in 2009. Those heels that she never wears again.

"She actually admits that she is a “ding dong” for the way she is dressed, she only packs heels you know. "

From a review of the Statue of Liberty episode in 2010. That heels again.

"or the opportunity to “drive the boat,” as Kate did, capitalizing on her fame to invite herself up the ladder to man the controls, all the while complaining that her high heels made the ladder climb difficult."

Wowser said...

Exactly Mel....which is why as much as any of us would hope that a kinder, gentler TFW was emerging, it's impossible for her. She escaped her "mediocre life" from whence she grew up, set out to find a man, get those money making multiples, fleece the church goers to get on tv and make $ and get things for who she is (narcissists would all crave this). Her true personality was how she treated Jon and those babies when the cameras were off. She has had so much negative press from people realizing she is not a nice person at all and really has no natural maternal instinct as its all about her.
I think she realized that she's hated and is losing "viewers" for years, whether it's been fighting to STAY on tv or Get BACK on tv, so her personality is ever evolving til one sticks. The organizationalish Kate she boasted to Vann about goes out the window when you are in her pig pen of a closet. Her "I can't kiss because my kids are watching" modest demure Kate doesn't stick because she spent years in hooker heels, daisy Dukes and her boobs hanging out during her I'm a tavern wench phase. The list goes "awn and awn". Besides, the locals say she is vile to people in the community. So, I'm not buying it.

Jane said...

I don't believe for a second that Kate is trying to change or even wants to change. TLC probably said "enough with the nasty outlook, you need some positive press." And dollars for donuts in the next episode she'll be rewriting history and crying crocodile tears. Lanc Native and others see her up close and personal and they've never led us astray.

Mel said...

Wasn't that her schtick on DWTS? That she had to have a 'modest' outfit because (sob) her kids would be watching?

But before that she went gas up her car in Daisy Dukes, 3" heels, and a halter top (2 sizes too small). Maybe the kids weren't with when she was gassing up?

Although they were certainly with on the hot air balloon thing, the boat trip, the NYC trip.

Kate is a twit said...

Another part that I found somewhat funny. When they leave the helicopter ride to go to the restaurant, both Kate and Vann take the limo to the restaurant.

When the date is over, Kate gets in the limo and leaves Vann stranded there.

I guess he could have taken a cab from the restaurant, by why not give him a ride home?

Oh, that would've spoiled the end of the date, wouldn't it have?

Totally scripted!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I think TFW struggles with her stories because that's what they are: stories. When you tell the truth, you don't have anything to keep track of.
Either you've dated since your divorce or you haven't. It's not up for interpretation. Yet she told 2 conflicting versions of that story.

Gigi Be said...


I also think that Deanna and Kate have a nice relationship. It does revolve around Kate, but so what, who cares?

I used to have a friendship like that while I was in college. My best friends life and problems were all front and center of our friendship. If I had a problem or an interest that I wanted to talk about, it was usually shrugged off as unimportant. After being a doormat for five years, I decided to stand up for myself. Even though we only speak occasionally, she finally respects me now because I refuse to be apart of a friendship where I just gave and gave, and got nothing back.
Kate is always sprouting off her problems or emotions while Deanna nods like a bobble head.

Ex Nurse said...

Leslie said...
But I do disagree that just because Kate said SHE settled that it was fine for her to say it. It is still a slam to Jon, isn't it?
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If you retread iwhat I wrote--I said that she may have thought she was taking a positive step because her statement implied that she took some responsibility. I agree that it was a fail, and she did throw him under the bus. It was just covert instead of overt. I t is really tricky to communicate about previous relationships--especially toxic ones. It would have been better to just stay away from that subject until she can figure out a way to put it in more positive terms. But, I do think she was, at least, trying.

Gigi Be said...

Another thing. Once just once I would like to see a taxi, an uber car, heck anything other than a stretch limo taking Kate on her paid for excursions. She hardly looks like a struggling single mom of 8.

Ex Nurse said...

Lanc Native said...
I have some swampland to sell you
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How kind of you....does it have a view?

I think "sheltered" is very subjective term. I grew up on the South side of Chicago and attended a huge inner city high school. We had a police guar on duty at all times, and had several once push shootings. There were 750 in my high school class. I regularly took public transportation all over the city. So, attending a small Christian high school with less than 20 in her class seems sheltered to me.

TLC stinks said...

Who's to say after the cameras stopped Vann was picked up and taken to his car or whatever?

TLC stinks said...

Pumpkinbottom was referred to as "the help" in the RV episode. That says it to me. These people are her "friends" as long as they cater to her and benefit her in some way. She has zero true girlfriends and that's what a divorced gal needs. All the whining about not speaking to adults is true because she has no friends.

TLC stinks said...

If Kate wants to truly be kinder and gentler, she should co-parent with Jon and allow him back on the property and stop with the Jon bashing.

Kate is a twit said...

I wonder if Jamie followed Kate's tweeting last night about the episode. The cameras panned in on the picture of her and Kate, but not one word about her was mentioned by Kate or any of her tweeties. You would think someone(especially Milo) would tweet "aw, there's Jamie".

Then at the end of the night Kate tweeted:

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 · 20h20 hours ago
@SiobhanR111 @TLC @deannatweeting yeah! Thanks Deanna for being here and there to support me! #BestestOfFriends

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I think he wears his Annapolis class ring.

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That's cute actually.

Rainbirdie said...

Kate & Deanna leave the house in the limo and there is a lovely overhead shot - from the sky looking down - of the limo driving down the country highway. Did TLC hired a small plane just to get that one camera shot? Maybe they hired the helicopter for the day to follow the limo for camera shots & then to use on the date? Just made me wonder about the budget for this episode.

TLC stinks said...

Military school graduates generally wear their class rings, particularly if they go into the service after graduation. It's a huge conversation starter when you run into other graduates.

Rainbirdie said...

I noticed that Kate had no problem with heights while looking down at the city from the helicopter.

NJGal51 said...

@msgoody2shoes21: Nielsen Will Now Use Your Facebook Chatter for TV Ratings | WIRED - http://www.wired.com/2016/01/nielsen-will-now-use-your-facebook-chatter-for-tv-ratings @Kateplusmy8
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Now that's interesting. Apparently Nielsen tracks Twitter and now will begin to track FB. Relatively speaking, TFW doesn't get all that many "likes" on the TLC FB page (only about 350 likes and 80 something comments last night). Let's see if she starts chatting that up now. It would be nice if the non-fans would go silent for a while because they're what keeps her timeline alive.

Kate is a twit said...

Rainbirdie said... 196
I noticed that Kate had no problem with heights while looking down at the city from the helicopter.
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She "explained" that on twitter:

Kate Gosselin‏@Kateplusmy8 · 21h21 hours ago
Contrary2popular belief, my fear of heights does NOT apply 2 air travel of any sort. Don't ask me 2 jump out of a plane tho! @TLC #KatePlus8

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

So, attending a small Christian high school with less than 20 in her class seems sheltered to me.

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I understand that, but those of us raised in the sticks aren't necessarily sheltered. Good parents make efforts to expose children to people and cultures and experiences even if your small Christian farming community isn't exactly the inner city. Schools helped as well. In my blue collar public school we had opportunites to go to both Canada and Europe. We fundraised. I never felt sheltered.

NJGal51 said...

I think he wears his Annapolis class ring.
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Most "ring knockers" (West Point, Annapolis, AF Academy, etc.) wear their class rings forever. It's the good old boys club and distinguishes them from the riffraff (ROTC, green to gold, etc.) Alas, my husband was a lowly ROTC officer.

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