Although two episodes have already aired without them, Jon and his girlfriend Liz make their first official appearance on the popular VH1 reality show tonight. Check local listings.
Meanwhile, the fallout continues from the twins awkward and uncomfortable appearance on Today yesterday
Watch Access Hollywood's excellent panel discussion on the debacle. They get it.
1043 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 800 of 1043 Newer› Newest»Not sure if this has been posted yet here. You tube video from outside the window at the Today Show prior to the interview. The girls look miserable and Kate is practically pissing in her pants to is so happy she's going to be on TV again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-1i3cFIZFs&feature=player_detailpage
and during the interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l29IMBhpHBM
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Who called you a name? That's not something that goes on here. And as far as Liz goes, I said I didn't appreciate the fact that some here were judging her by the way she was dressed. That just seems very superficial to me. We haven't seen enough of Liz yet to really judge her on anything. That's what I said and I stand by my statement. "
Paula seemed to call me a sheeple. Last time though, it was you that called me names..soon after you started blogging here..it was also after I criticized Jon. You called me a sheeple, a troll, and a drive by who only wanted to cause trouble. Before the newer bloggers, names were never called..it just was not allowed. Other than to point this out, I have dropped the subject as suggested.
Tucker's Mom,
Thank you for this link of the IE interview w/ Liz and Jon from early 2012 talking about about meeting, family, etc.
http://www.insideedition.com/entertainment/4373-meet-jon-gosselins-new-girlfriend
Not a Liz Fan said... 181
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Well, you're a very prepared person and sound adept at packing for travel, at least for business.
Perhaps semper paratus is not Liz's motto ;-)
Tucker's Mom said... 193
I can't speak for anyone else here, but I'm waiting for context. We've seen a few minutes of edited footage, showing Jon and Liz literally diving into filming after a hell of a slog to L.A.
There's just not enough data for me to judge whether she would be a blessing or a curse for Jon's kids.
We just don't know.
Photos and articles of Jon and Liz, looking very put together. I know there's video out there of prior interviews with Liz, but can't find right now.
For now, see:
http://blogs.mcall.com/tvwatchers/jon-kate/
http://www.insideedition.com/entertainment/4373-meet-jon-gosselins-new-girlfriend
Also, remember, reality tv participants are CAST in Roles. However the producers decide to present the cast, they WILL manage to make it happen.
Did you see Taylor look and Jon and Liz like someone let homeless people into the house? TV magic!
The poor, PA redneck schlubs meet the nipped, plumped, injected, tanned, botoxed, boobed Barbie from CA.
See how this works?
I'm reserving my true opinion until I see a bit more and then, I'll feel free to give it respectfully (hopefully!).
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Amen Tucker's mom. Very well said, and I couldn't agree more.
Starts at 7:50 min mark.
http://youtu.be/d_9fvtXkH3U
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Whoooooooo Boy! Talk about salty language!
I'm a bit of a potty mouth (in private), so it made me laugh.
They refer to couples therapy as "it's like Celebrity Rehab where nobody dies"
Ah, good laugh.
Oh, and they'd still "do" Kate. With a ball gag, I'm sure.
Yes Tucker's Mom, I loved that movie and the etiquette class scenes reminded me of a few of the girls in my class. I remember learning to walk properly down stairs and how to stand correctly, sit in a chair like a 'lady', a proper handshake, table manners, introductions, making polite small talk, and sooo much more. LOL Those were the days! Little did I know then how much the things that I learned there would come in handy and end up being a big part of who I am today. If only something like that was common in this generation - heaven only knows how badly so many of our young people need something like it today.
I'm reminded of the movie, "A League Of Their Own", when the girls are forced to take etiquette classes so that they present themselves better to the public, and drum up support for the league.
I'd rather have a foul mouth mom than a mother like Kate Gosselin.
What kate says to her children is infinitely worse than dropping the f bomb.
About Milo blabbing to the celebrity ghost writer, isn't she overstepping her boundaries just a tad? Who told her Kate would want this done? If any negative gossip about Jon was exposed and traced back to Kate, the backlash against her would be a 1000x worse than it is now! I am still convinced that Milo is Kate's mother. Her style of writing is very similar to the poster at IW who was revealed as Kate's mother.
I actually do want to like her. I hope she's good for those kids, but mostly for Jon. He's proven to need a strong, supportive woman in his life.
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I think we all want to like Liz, truth be told. She's not quite fitting the mold though, is she?
Once again, I will suggest that Jon's ''victim'' role could be instead his inbred desire to avoid confrontation...being translated into a perception of others as being a ''victim'' or being passive. 192
Recovering from abuse is analogous to recovering from grief, in that there is no specific timeline. It's very individual.
I spent a little over a year in an abusive marriage. It was several.years before I was "myself" again. Jon spent 10 years with the Pimp who continues to use his children to torture him.
Mr. Hoffman has also added the Access Hollywood clip to his gosselinbook blogspot page. He even credits this site for finding it and putting it up.
I think this speaks volumes for Admin and all the posters here for continuing to fight the good fight and insist that what's happened/happening to the Gosselin kids is not right and needs to stop.
I have *never* hit/shoved my spouse in 43 years. And I don't know anyone who has, or would.
Milo said something about murdering Jon in his sleep....and then criticizes him because he has a gun???
@ljohnson2006
I hope that @Kateplusmy8's kids do write a 📕one day. So ppl can know once and for all that they are just normal ppl who happened to be on tv
@MY_2BCOLLIES
@ljohnson2006 @Kateplusmy8 So do I & I'm betting there will be a lot of embarassed #nutterbutters when they find out the kids love their mom
Hey sheeple - I don't think anyone disagrees that the kids don't love their mother. In fact, I think they love her dearly - in spite of the physical and emotional abuse she's inflicted on them. And, I'll agree that they're just normal people with normal feelings who were on tv. But, it doesn't negate the fact that the kids were exploited then and that their mom continues to do it today at her children's expense but the kids have EARNED their privacy.
The reason for her continuing now? To exact revenge on their father and her critics and to reap the financial benefits. She's plastering their faces and thoughts and what should be private family moments on tv, blogs, magazines, and books because she refuses to respect their privacy! Well, and because she has no talent and can't carry anything on her own. Instead of protecting them she USES them. She should have never used the twins to 'set her record straight'. And guess what, sheeple? Even after the embarrassment of Thurs, the twins will still love her - because that's what kids do, even the abused and exploited ones say they love their parents.
This talk about Liz's clothing is bringing back funny memories for me.
I mean, we just don't know what's de rigueur in Jon and Liz's neck of the woods.
Jon is more "traveled", but like Kate, just doesn't seem "worldly".
Anywho.... I'm also from Philadelphia, and I believe Liz is from just outside Philly, maybe the Main Line area, or maybe Berks?
Where I came from in Philly is from the North East section- the uppermost part before you get to the suburbs.
I remember my DH's face when he first really drove around the neighborhoods with me, looking at the locals and how they dress for daily activities. He couldn't believe his eyes.
Well, to put it mildly, it would make Liz look like Cinderella after a visit from her fairy godmother. Yes- it's de rigueur to wear sweats-just about everywhere. Men. Women. Baggy sweats. Ill-fitting sweats. Sweats that show every lump of cellulite and "Dunlop's" disease (that belly "done lop" over those pants), which is of course, the precursor to the muffin top.
Don't get me started on the hair.
So, while Liz's seems a bit, ahem, sartorially challenged, her disheveled appearance didn't make more than a little blip on my radar.
Now, if she walks around the house in her unawears, picking wedgies out of her ass crack, I might perk up a bit.
Tucker's Mom said... 9
I actually do want to like her. I hope she's good for those kids, but mostly for Jon. He's proven to need a strong, supportive woman in his life.
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I think we all want to like Liz, truth be told. She's not quite fitting the mold though, is she?
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So far, not too much.
I'm not interested in watching CT but will rely on your comments here!
Not that it matters but I recall on JK+8, Jon said he liked to wear designer jeans and look well-dressed. He ironed his own clothes and helped choose Kate's wardrobe. He seemed to prefer a preppy look then.
The laundry helper Miss Beverly got him GAP boxers for Xmas lol.
I think we all want to like Liz, truth be told. She's not quite fitting the mold though, is she? 9
I understand what you're getting at, but really the bottom line is the relationship that she and Jon and 11 children develop. I wish them the best.
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Tucker's Mom said: #164
I think it went right by Kate, that Savannah cleverly had the twins choose between filming for fun, or filming to put their lives out there, knowing that this is a Hobsonian choice. There is no choice between the two. You can not have one without the other, as they are inextricably linked.
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A Hobson's choice is a free choice in which only one option is offered. As a person may refuse to take that option, the choice is therefore between taking the option or not; "take it or leave it".
Hobson's choice is often misused to mean a false illusion of choice, but it is not a choice between two equivalent options, which is a Morton's fork, nor is it a choice between two undesirable options, which is a dilemma. Hobson's choice is one between something or nothing.
I enjoy your posts Tucker's Mom, I had to look up "Hobsonian choice". I don't think this was a choice between something or nothing. Or "a take it or leave it situation". But I see your point, if they film, they may be have fun doing so but at the same time their lives will be put out there for all to view and criticize. Most importantly, again, Kate is an idiot to always say that the kids want to film. She has been spouting that claim for over 4 years now. And the world realizes that it is stupid of her to let her very minor kids make a very important, life altering family decision. Kate is so desperate she is totally losing all reality about filming a third reality show. Wasn't two reality shows enough!
Her style of writing is very similar to the poster at IW who was revealed to be Kate's mother. 8
Thinking about some of the comments that Milo has made, I really hope that is not the case
I think we all want to like Liz, truth be told. She's not quite fitting the mold though, is she? 9
I understand what you're getting at, but really the bottom line is the relationship that she and Jon and 11 children develop. I wish them the best.
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Exactly. I could care less who he ends up with as long as they are a healthy and appropriate person for the kids.
I hit the airport bathroom, used the items in my carry-on to freshen my makeup and pull my hair into a neat pony-tail. 181
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That's you. Not everyone cares to bother with all that primping and it doesn't make them bad people. I have no problem walking around without making, going shopping, meeting up with friends, other women would be mortified to be seen outside the house without makeup. To each his own.
Plus, that was a conference. It's not at all the same as going on a trashy reality show. I don't see anyone else on this show walking around in suits and panty hose!
My first thoughts on seeing Kate purposefully sitting between her daughters was how fake she truly looks. The girls looked fresh, and young, very appropriately dressed and groomed for their age, very natural. And then there is their mother - fake tan, fake extensions, fake hair color(s), fake boobs and a whole lot of fake done to her face. Add to that her obvious lack of maternal demeanor, and it was just a sad mess.
As for Growing Up Gosselin, if she and Skeevio have been planning this pitch, with footage and logo, where do they think they will be getting the girls' real father to sign off on this. Seems like fantasy land to me.
@Spar_kle_Girl
@GiulianaRancic I'd dare you to spend one day doing what Kate Gosselin does, but I doubt theres a Gosselin that could stand your face
Does anyone know what Giuliana Rancic did to attract the attention of TFW sheeple? This person has tweeted her a number of times today along similar lines.
rolling. Speak for yourself, fool.
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SCREAMED at kids? No Milo, not every mother has screamed at their children. Same for marital "tantrums" whatever that means. Believe it or not, some people behave like adults in their relationships with their spouse and children. And even if they had, did they feel bad, apologize, and work hard to use other methods to communicate from thereon out? Therein lies the difference.
most have hit, shoved spouse
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WHAT?
Ummmm NO. The last time I hit or shoved or was hit or shoved I was four years old for pete sake. SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUT UPPPPPP!
High Sodium Content said... 1
Not sure if this has been posted yet here. You tube video from outside the window at the Today Show prior to the interview. The girls look miserable and Kate is practically pissing in her pants to is so happy she's going to be on TV again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-1i3cFIZFs&feature=player_detailpage
and during the interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l29IMBhpHBM
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I think part of that glee is stemming from the fact that she just knew the twins were going to throw their father under the bus on National TV, and she couldn't wait for it to happen. She is an awful mother.
A Hobson's choice is a free choice in which only one option is offered. As a person may refuse to take that option, the choice is therefore between taking the option or not; "take it or leave it".
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I used Hobsonian? because that's as close as I could get to the question Savannah posed. There was the illusion of choice when in fact, there is no either/or when it comes to the "fun" of filming, and the "putting their lives out there" of filming.
So, take it in that spirit.
It was slick.
Plus, that was a conference. It's not at all the same as going on a trashy reality show. I don't see anyone else on this show walking around in suits and panty hose!
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I get that she's saying she was prepared, but yeah, I wouldn't primp to meet Ghost Face Killah, or whatever his name is!
Oh, it's Dennis. But, you know what I mean. What does one wear????
Carole said... 21
@Spar_kle_Girl
@GiulianaRancic I'd dare you to spend one day doing what Kate Gosselin does, but I doubt theres a Gosselin that could stand your face
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I dare you to be diagnosed with breast cancer and undergo a double mastectomy, and bounce back better than ever, WHILE raising a baby!
Wasn't two reality shows enough! 18
Nothing will ever be enough for the Pimp. She is a bottomless pit.
I'm actually very surprised that there is not more of an outcry about how badly she spoke to and about Jon. I fully expected to log on and see a myriad of comments just like mine. I'm confused.
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Well for me, I haven't even seen it yet and probably wouldn't watch but for trying to get the recap done. But Jon is a consenting adult and if he prefers to be whipped that is his problem. I am not interested in telling adults what to do or who to be with or to lament about it all day long, it's really not my problem. When adults are hurting children, however, that is a matter of public concern. I have for a very long time, even before the Gosselins, and always will be interested in the issue of children in the public eye and what affects it has. I am a hundred times more interested in the fallout from the twins' Today appearance than I am about some consenting adult's girlfriend.
Carole said...(13)
"Hey sheeple - I don't think anyone disagrees that the kids don't love their mother. In fact, I think they love her dearly - in spite of the physical and emotional abuse she's inflicted on them. And, I'll agree that they're just normal people with normal feelings who were on tv. But, it doesn't negate the fact that the kids were exploited then and that their mom continues to do it today at her children's expense but the kids have EARNED their privacy.
Even after the embarrassment of Thurs, the twins will still love her - because that's what kids do, even the abused and exploited ones say they love their parents."
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This is the exact point the sheep don't get. Of course the kids love their mother, all kids love their parents...it's natural.
Even those of us who've grown up horribly abused, neglected and denied by our parents still love them. That's what it makes it all the more tragic.
I've been estranged from my mother for over 15 years but not a day goes by that I don't think about her, hope she's okay and wish with all my heart that things had been different.
Growing up, more than anything I wanted a real, unconditional relationship with my mother. As an adult/parent, I wanted my kids to have a relationship with their grandmother.
You know, it's not out of spite that I cut her out of my life...it was freakin' survival. She refused to listen and step back, she refused to be wrong, refused to be contemplative and consider any other option than what SHE believed, how SHE felt.
It's not about vindication, it's about validation. I never wanted to hurt my mother, I just wanted her to stop hurting me.
I will always love her and I will always be sad about the whole thing.
I just can't imagine the twins will be able to pull it together hours later after such a stressful public appearance.
But even if they do I think it's going to make Kate look WORSE. It's going to look like she had a stern talking with them to get it together. Kate is screwed either way and rightly so. Whether they do well or poorly again Kate looks bad. Karma--it's a bitch isn't it?
OrangeCrusher1 said... 20
My first thoughts on seeing Kate purposefully sitting between her daughters was how fake she truly looks. The girls looked fresh, and young, very appropriately dressed and groomed for their age, very natural. And then there is their mother - fake tan, fake extensions, fake hair color(s), fake boobs and a whole lot of fake done to her face. Add to that her obvious lack of maternal demeanor, and it was just a sad mess.
As for Growing Up Gosselin, if she and Skeevio have been planning this pitch, with footage and logo, where do they think they will be getting the girls' real father to sign off on this. Seems like fantasy land to me.
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According to Jon's interview on TMZ this week, he does NOT have "Legal" control over the kids which meant he could NOT stop the Today interview or any other filming that Kate does with the kids.
It would mean Jon woud have to take Kate to court to stop filming like we heard he did to try to stop her from taking the kids to Australia a few years ago. And that failed and I am sure it cost him quite abit of money. His only recourse is to keep taking her to court to stop filming.
Very sad that a Father is prevented from having any say in the Mother's continual exploitation of his kids.
And very sad that TFW continues believing that the ONLY way to earn a living is to EXPLOIT her kids and FORCE them to be filmed to pay the bills.
There is NOT one income earning "job" that Kate has done in 9 years that has NOT involved EXPLOITING and USING her kids either directly like on CWS or indirectly when writing blogs for The Stir or Coupon Cabin.
Kate needs to STOP with her delusional quest to get back on TV.
I have *never* hit/shoved my spouse in 43 years. And I don't know anyone who has, or would.
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And if you were or saw someone doing that you'd call the COPS right? Like a NORMAL PERSON.
Good grief Milo don't even go there with oh we all hit our spouses.....hell to the NO.
Re:Liz,
While I wish Jon continues to get his act together as a father, as a mother I do not like the example he && Liz are setting for 11 children combined. Hooking up with someone and spending the night together after their first meeting alarms me. What about their "personal" health and history. I hope Jon gets checked for diseases. I don't give her a pass with rough language either. A parent should be setting a good example to young and growing children. If you are raising children how do you have time to spend in bars and pick up men? Did she meet Jon at his place of business? Yes, I admit I am old fashioned in my ideas but I see a lack of morals too often . I know not many will agree with me but I have seen too many divorced parents hurt their children by their lifestyles and it does affect the children.
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Off Topic- I've been puttering around today, hanging out with you great people and watching Public Television. So, I saw that the new season of Doc Martin starts next month, so set your dvr's!
Apparently, it's Martin and "Loueezer's" wedding, with all the antics and mishaps that you'd expect in Port Wenn.
On Pioneer Woman I noticed Ree went grocery shopping and the teen boy checking her out said "Hi Mrs. Drummond."
That's right. She is not Ree. She is not, oh it's the Pioneer Woman! If you are a kid or even a teen, she is MRS. Drummond to you.
If I had to guess based on what Jon's alluded to, I think when they were sharing legal it was causing even more fighting and court dates and constant turmoil for the kids.
It sounds like to keep the peace he said fine have legal, what I care about is seeing my children and spending time with them. I remember his quote about fighting over legal and him saying "legal, who cares?" I think at the time, he honestly never thought this would happen, that she would actually be able to get some takers for dragging them back into the media. I didn't either. I think he honestly thought there biggest fight would be over school or something, and since they already go to a great school why is he going to fight that? It is a rare situation, but sometimes it's better to just give one parent legal control to stop the fighting. I have to say it's a pretty rare situation for a parent who sees his children overnights so frequently to not have legal. The only plausible explanation is the judge, or Jon, said enough is enough you clearly can't agree on anything so I'm giving one of you legal. You don't "strip" a parent of legal custody then give them overnights, that's just not how it works usually.
Nothing is set in stone. Family law orders can always be changed as the situation evolves. It may be time to go back to court to ask for joint legal again.
Again though, legal doesn't mean you can make decisions that are detrimental. The non-legal parent can always complain if it's warranted.
Oh one more possibility is that it's possible that they each have legal control on their time. For instance if the kids were with Jon he could put them on TV on his time, and same for Kate. If a legal decision comes up on your time it's your decision and same for the other parent.
This is kind of what Tamra Barney is saying should happen in her situation, that she should control legal decisions on her time and Simon on his. Simon of course disagrees.
Milo didn't say those things, the person she's wants to have a conference call did
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Susie Cincinnati said... 157
This is the person that Milo has now aligned herself with, and wants a conference call:
c. @prettyplusmore 1h
Every person here spouting about the Kate scene they remember has screamed at kids, had a marital tantrum & (most have hit, shoved spouse).
c.@prettyplusmore
@TEB2350 @BlckdByJilZarin @Kateplusmy8 Trust me, you would have murdered him in his sleep. She gets judged just for being "annoyed" at him.
c. @prettyplusmore Jan 17
She's not perfect, but she's probably less crazy than your ass. @Kateplusmy8
c. @prettyplusmore Jan 17
And if you are a @Kateplusmy8 hater, find another TL to stalk. I don't want to hear your bitchin' because you can't get a flat stomach.
Real nice person there, Milo. Real nice. Classy. Go for it.
This is what separates us from the manure-filled pastures. We understand, and do not ever judge, that the children love both of their parents.
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Exactly. It is right and normal for them to love both their parents and I've never wanted to see anyone come between that. The sheeple, on the other hand, want to see Jon dead and buried, and if they truly cared about these kids they would not think that.
What we are capable of understanding is that these are the parents they were dealt and there aren't any other options. No matter what their parents' choices they will always be their mom and dad. It's not time yet for them to make the adult decision exactly what contact if any they will have with them as an adult. Now they're still children and this is the childhood they've been dealt, and they have a RIGHT to love the parents they have been given. I'd never want to see that disrupted.
What do the body language experts say about the way a person uses his/her hands when in a public speaking environment? Kate has always flapped her hands around, "talked" with her hands, is very animated with her hands. Is this deception? Nerves? Stress? The way she does this is so exaggerated. I would think that it does mean something.
Carole said... 21
She hosts some show and she and her co-host were commenting negatively on Kate, just like every other show was.
Tucker's Mom said... 33
Off Topic-
Apparently, it's Martin and "Loueezer's" wedding,
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Hurray! Seemed to be so far in the future when I last checked. That'll be great! Thanks!
You know what I'm wondering too might have really thrown the girls off, is that Savannah was going on about Kate parading the kids out. Apparently the kids are aware that some people take issue with them being put on display but that may have been the very first time they actually heard it from someone other than their mom and dad telling them about what people are saying. I'm sure most people in their life are polite and don't discuss such things with them . It may have been eye opening for them to see their mom under fire like that from a media person. They are only used to people like Kate Coyne coddling them and sucking up. I'm betting there was a pre interview practice that really threw them off. They were not emotionally prepared for such questions. This was not, so do you think Justin Bieber cute? You know a question a teen can answer without having to think on a deep emotional level.
Carole, your comment about not judging Liz right away was spot on. See that's what I did when Kate Gosselin first appeared on my t.v. screen. I looked at her and thought wow - what a smart, organized, funny Mom. I actually thought of her as an inspiration. Now we see how we were all tricked, so I don't judge anyone by their cover on t.v.. Especially as "reality t.v." is not reality.
Not A Liz Fan, I get where you're coming from with the layovers etc.. I had a layover in New Jersey and then had to literally sprint to the other end of the terminal to catch a diverted plane originally bound for London to Paris. The difference between mine and Liz's flight was about nine hours. I had nine hours in the air to get myself together. I also am not a drinker but I certainly do not judge people who choose to do so. I may actually reconsider if I were laid over and then heading right to a stint on national television (and I do realize she signed herself up for it and the judgement). There are also lots of women who are not so concerned with their outward appearance and I wish I was more like them. As far as how she speaks to Jon, we don't know these people and never will. I've made so many bad assumptions based on snippets of a person's life only to find out later how very wrong I was. It's a sobering and learning lesson for sure.
DisgustedwithKate said... 8
About Milo blabbing to the celebrity ghost writer, isn't she overstepping her boundaries just a tad? Who told her Kate would want this done? If any negative gossip about Jon was exposed and traced back to Kate, the backlash against her would be a 1000x worse than it is now! I am still convinced that Milo is Kate's mother. Her style of writing is very similar to the poster at IW who was revealed as Kate's mother.
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That is a really interesting theory I'd never heard before. It sure would explain that motherliness Milo has toward Kate and that "Don't pick on my baby" attitude. Of course, then there are the hot legs comments, so I guess that doesn't fit. Still, very interesting indeed!
Having the girls on the View Monday is a lose-lose situation for Kate. If they do well, the media will assume that they were bullied by Kate and were in fear of their mother. If they don't do well, it will be due to the fact that they were manipulated and intimidated by their mother. Either way, Kate loses and her whole "Growing Up Gosselin" thing is in the trash. What network will want to pick up a show that will cause a firestorm? The public will know that the kids are being bullied into perfuming, and the network will be blamed for their part in allowing this to happen.
I didn't realize the whole Growing Up Gosselin concept for a new show, but it makes perfect sense. I wondered where the new footage came from, and I have been wondering for a few months what she's trying to pull off with her media appearances. She did say that she'd like to take up where K+8 left off. She said in Sept. that they were at the very end of their TLC contract and able to sign for whatever they wanted (she even mentioned that the kids could sign for anything, too. 9-year-olds can't sign a legally binding contract! How stupid does she think people are?). She's plugging for a new show. Well, I sure hope she didn't pay too much for the filming of those shots and the new logo, 'cause this new GUG show isn't going to happen.
Is this how it happens in TV-land? You just drop broad hints and hope someone picks up on them? Or maybe she doesn't have a clue and just thinks this is how it works.
Admin, Idk. They must have seen the covers of all the magazines covering the divorce and the whole exploitation scene. Plus we know they have access to the Internet. I doubt at 13 it would be a shock- Mady seemed to know 'something' was thought about them that was not correct in TFW's eyes.
Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said..
Carole said... 21
She hosts some show and she and her co-host were commenting negatively on Kate, just like every other show was
Thanks PPForever. The sheeple better get busy, there are a heck of a lot more media people that commented negatively about TFW than just Guiliana. I wonder if sheeple think she's an easy/weak target since she's recently dealt with breast cancer, surgery, a newborn, etc or this particular sheeple just doesn't like the way she looks. ugh
I'm late to the party. Why does Milo want to have a conference call with a ghost writer to the celebrities? What does she hope to accomplish, other than to trash Jon?
I can't keep up with Milo's antics.
Is it just me, or is the timeline for real time TFW tweets different? This is the link I've always used:
https://twitter.com/search?q=kateplusmy8&src=typd&f=realtime
but it is no longer a realtime twitter for me.
I could only follow what Milo was saying by going to her twitter...it isn't showing up at the link I have for WOS's twitter.
Is anyone else having the same problem? If anyone has a better link, please post it.
Sorry if this has been posted. I haven't caught up with all of the comments. The tweets about shoving your spouse and yelling at your kids wasn't made by Milo, but rather by the woman writer Milo contacted, volunteering to dish the dirt on Jon. The tweetie is prettyplusmore.
c. @prettyplusmore 7h
Every person here spouting about the Kate scene they remember has screamed at kids, had a marital tantrum & (most have hit, shoved spouse).
Regardless, Milo is nuts.
Robert provides a link to an entertainment show clip where several hosts are discussing wos's behavior during the today show. They know exactly what wos is up to. chilling.
if this is the general media buzz in CA, not only will Growing up gosselin never see the light of day, neither will wos. it was SCATHING.
WOS finally is getting some karma handed to her. and she did it with her own mouth and some finger snapping. it's about dang time.
Now Robert needs to get that book out.
Remona, that's the link I use and it's just fine. Milo last tweeted roughly four hours ago, if that helps. I'm sure it's way down on Kate's timeline.
...your comment about not judging Liz right away was spot on. See that's what I did when Kate Gosselin first appeared on my t.v. screen. I looked at her and thought wow - what a smart, organized, funny Mom. I actually thought of her as an inspiration.
Kelly, I agree. I think the majority of us non-fans were originally fans of J&K+8 and were impressed with the young family but the questions and inconsistencies kept piling up until we started looking online for validation of our suspicions. And, voila - here we are today.
The sheeple better get busy, there are a heck of a lot more media people that commented negatively about TFW than just Guiliana. I wonder if sheeple think she's an easy/weak target since she's recently dealt with breast cancer, surgery, a newborn, etc or this particular sheeple just doesn't like the way she looks. ugh
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That particular sheeple is a charter member of the Double Digit Club.
PatK at 55
Thank you so much! Since you said the link was working, I went back to the link, and discovered that I at some point had clicked on ''top'', which had kinda frozen the same comments at the top of the timeline. As soon as I clicked on ''all'' instead, everything was working! lol I wish I'd asked sooner, since I've been frustrated since last night!
Remona Blue,
https://twitter.com/search?q=kateplusmy8&src=typd&f=realtime
I use the same link as you do. Make sure you've got "ALL" selected at the top of the results column right under where it says 'results for kateplusmy8'.
That is a really interesting theory I'd never heard before. It sure would explain that motherliness Milo has toward Kate and that "Don't pick on my baby" attitude. Of course, then there are the hot legs comments, so I guess that doesn't fit. Still, very interesting indeed!
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Uh, yes...the rockin bikini, the walkin off into the sunset together, the Daisy Dukes, wine and warm baths and backwashing, the lusting and grow-a-boyfriend really doesn't fit with that theory. I don't think that Milo feels 'motherly' toward Kate. Then again, Milo is such a strange old coot, who knows?
I'm thinking The View was taped on Friday, right after the Today failure, before it hit all the major and minor news waves. The View racist, Sherri probably has MLK day off. Bad enough the kids missed at least Thursday school. How many days out can they take w/o consequences. Given how often that family is sick, Kate must need to reserve some time for actual sick days.
They are practically black. All the money she spends on her hair (or all the free grifting she receives) from her fancy, super expensive, NY salon, you would think her hair would would be in great color condition for something this important
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Maybe Mr. Gibson and Jason just don't know how to my that weave/wig look good so KK does it herself.
Uh, yes...the rockin bikini, the walkin off into the sunset together, the Daisy Dukes, wine and warm baths and backwashing, the lusting and grow-a-boyfriend really doesn't fit with that theory.
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Don't forget Steve is their to "bodyguard" and hold their purses while manning the closet to keep away over zealous fans away.
I see Kate is on quiet mood. I guess thinking some new crap to say, or is she busy drilling the girls for mondays View. I hope she cancels or just her go on.
The In Touch mag with Kate on the cover looks like they sold a lot of them. Course it say: House of horrors. I just can't possibly imagine what they could mean? LOL
I just saw the video of kate smiling and talking to M. The girls look like they want to run like heck out of there. kate looks like she is in a TRANCE! She looks like she just got a huge hit of Angel Dust and is just happy and smiling and floating about a inch up off the couch.
Instead of letting Joy go from the View, they should of gotten rid of Sheri. I was so ill when Prince came on and was walking out and Sheri got up and screamed, I Have Wanted To Make Love To You ALL MY LIFE! Now. I think she was married to her husband or just about to get married.
I thought that was awful. If I would of been her husband, watch out.
She was not joking. I also read that her husband wrote a letter about her talking about him on the View and he was major upset about it. She doesn't have any filters or any common sense.
If kate was to appear on Monday without the girls, and Joy was there, Joy would tear into her like a F-5 tornado after TODAYGATE.
There is still confusion on when The View was/will be taped. The View was DEFINITELY already tape on Thursday after Kate and the twins were on the Today Show. It will not be live on Monday.
The View's website states:
Kate Gosselin joined by her 13-year old twins, Mady and Cara, with an update on life inside the Gosselin house; Sunny Anderson with family favorite recipes; performance from five-time Grammy® nominee including "Album of the Year," Sara Bareilles; children from the acclaimed chorus at Staten Island’s PS 22 read Martin Luther King, Jr.’s "I Have a Dream" speech. Fantasia guest co-hosts
And on Fantasia's facebook page, I found this post from last Thursday, Jan. 16th:
• ThreegirlsmommySchnovey Barnes
I wanted to say THANK YOU, You met my baby today she's apart of the P.S. Ps22 Chorus and she told you I was a big fan and you said to say hi! Also thank you for your music " FREE YOURSELF" came out & I was living almost every part of that album & that album helped me to acknowledge what I should not be accepting. Keep up the GREAT MUSIC COMING & CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOU & MY BABY MONDAY ON THE VIEW!
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As for the way Liz was dressed: so what! Everybody, does their own thing. If she is comfy who cares. This morning at Mickey D's, there were 2 guys and a girl, 20-30 something, one guy was dressed noraml the other, had on 1500 shirt on and black pants with knee high boots and the girl had on a 1500 dress. Yeah, people looked, but you know hey, they had no problem with it, and neither did I. Infact I said to them: uniquely cool. It was. I the summer I see all knids of weird dress so?
I do think both Jon & Liz, have past personal issues to get through, if their relationship is going to make it or not. All anyone should care about is if Liz, gets along with 1. Jon, 2, his kids, 3, her kids & Jon get along & 4 Jon's kids & Liz's kids get along. As for ex's, Jon said he does get along with Liz, ex. As for Liz getting along with Kate, I don't ever see that happening, Kate has to get over Jon and move on, Kate take the stick out. Jon said Kate is noisy into his business. Kate MYOB. What Jon does, is his business, what concerts the kids is both yours & Jons business. JMO
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Yes, Kate has gone quiet. Perhaps she's trying to figure out how to capitalize on all this publicity by pushing her new show concept. Or maybe she's sitting back, waiting for it all to blow over, and in the meantime her sheeple can fight her battles for her.
I wonder if she realized at the time just how awful that interview really was. Maybe she thought it wasn't so bad, the girls clammed up but she saved the day with her gift of gab. I think the View might have taped on Friday,and if it was as bad as the Today show was, she doesn't realize it yet. She has no concept of how people see things until she's told. She wouldn't see anything beyond the effect on her. The girls embarrassed Mommy. That's all there is to it to her. Se doesn't have the insight to see anything beyond how things reflect on her. If the kids actually talked but she came across as manipulative or controlling, she would never even see that. In her mind, she always shines. She is always a star. She's just that delusional. Remember, she thinks she has the gift of gab.
So does anybody else think that Kate's Manager/Agent/PR Rep (or even Steve) told her to lay low on Twitter for a couple days?
Of course, her silence COULD be because Jon has the kids this weekend.
It looks like the sheeple spin on this is,..hey, why all the fuss over a 5 minute interview? Playing it down seems to be the only thing they have at this point.
With all of the criticism in the media and blogs the past two days, will there be a class action lawsuit filed on the grounds of harassment and bullying? Where would Kate begin?
I don't believe that even Teflon Kate can overcome the disastrous Today show interview. I hope if the girls do go on the View live that they do well. It still won't help Kate. She's done. I bet.Skeve is PISSED! Serves him right. This is way worse than pizza gate.
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Lauren @ljohnson2006 54m
@Kateplusmy8 your girls will always remember the @TODAYshow experience. It's a great learning experience. No one is gonna be perfect 😄
Good grief, how dumb is this person? What kind of an idiotic thing to tweet to Kate? These kids may always remember that show, but it certainly isn't going to evoke fond, loving memories of a positive experience. Great learning experience? Yes, they learned that their mother will snap her fingers at them anywhere, anytime, and doesn't care if her daughters are embarrassed or not.
Has Milo given up proclaiming what a great mother Kate is, how strong she is, how ultra-fabulous? I guess she's discovered by now that not everyone is full of love and glowing praises for Kate and her parenting skills! :-) Milo must be tearing her hair out, or drinking herself into a self-imposed stupor.
Kate made a public proclamation about bullying last year and even enlisted the help of Bullyville to help her in her quest to stop bullying. Why, then, is she putting her daughters out front and center to be bullied? She's feeding them to the wolves. Does bullying only matter where she's concerned?
The In Touch mag with Kate on the cover looks like they sold a lot of them.
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How can you tell that?
I just don't see how rushing out and giving an interview about the abuse after it happens accomplishes much of anything.
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Me neither, winsomeone. It's this ridiculous back-and-forth crap that got Jon in trouble with the public back in '09. He appears not to have learned anything from it.
Thankfully, he does seem to be a warm, loving dad. That, at least, hasn't changed.
I checked out the pretty plus more twitter and I think Milo would be shocked as she tweeted a couple of nasty tweets about the girls. Here are the tweets...
OMG! The @Kateplusmy8 interview is great contraception. Poor Kate, but those twins were always insufferable! @citygirlcyndi
Everyone is saying these girls are scared~MUCH to the contrary. These twins have always been induldged. SPOILED @citygirlcyndi @Kateplusmy8
A scared kid would NEVER have behaved this way. A SPOILED kid would DEFINITELY do this. @citygirlcyndi @Kateplusmy8
This person is now defending Kate, but how do you criticize two young innocent girls and give the mother a pass? After all, if a child is spoiled, it is NOT their fault. It's the parents' fault! So, Milo, this is a person you want to friend because they claim to have info on him? Do some simple research!
I think Kate is quite on twitter because she is sitting in her room drinking and reading all the scathing news stories, posts, comments, and tweets of the disastrous Today Show interview.
I do believe that Cara and Mady received a great amount of severe words, yelling, punishment, and shame from Kate over the last few days.
And I believe they will receive even more when Kate comes out of her room to “inform them” (quote from Today show interview) of all that is being said on TV and posted on the internet about what THEY DID TO HER, HOW THEY MADE HER LOOK SO BAD…..
Just the fact that when Kate is on TV and around others, she can NOT STOP herself from demeaning them, ordering them to “Spit it Out”, snapping her fingers at them, glaring at them, controlling them, …. Wow, scary to think how Kate treats them in the privacy of their own home when no one else can see or hear what she says or does to them.
If I knew these girls personally, I would be afraid for them. I would want to do something to intervene this weekend …. Invite them over, get them out of the house somehow ….
Is the new episode of American Horror Story going to be called “Growing Up Gossselin”?
My gosh! I looked at Kate's TL. Where did all of those haters come from? So many new tweeters, so much contempt.
I just don't see how rushing out and giving an interview about the abuse after it happens accomplishes much of anything.
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OH MY GOD! I have no words! So no one should speak of abuse AFTER it happened? Let's just keep sweeping things under the rug, shall we? This really, really pisses me off so I'm going to go away for awhile.
I absolutely love how other people are FINALLY getting this! They are seeing what most of us have seen for years and are calling her out on her bad behavior.
I'm on a few other clothing message boards and this was brought up as a topic. Most times this comes up people usually feel sympathetic towards Kate but not this time around. They are calling her out on her bad behavior and feel sorry for those girls.
Finally! Her time has come!
~LAP
I've come to the conclusion that Milo is just a poor, lost, mentally ill person. She is too pathetic to even bother criticizing.
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Lauren @ljohnson2006 54m
@Kateplusmy8 your girls will always remember the @TODAYshow experience. It's a great learning experience.
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Yes, it is a great learning experience. They have learned the power of passive non cooperation -- possibly the most powerful resistance tool there is. However it takes great strength to withstand the immediate consequences. They are only girls yet. It might take a while for them to figure out what power they have and the will required to carry it through.
However, intentioned or not, the Today interview was perfect. I hope they come to know that.
I checked out the pretty plus more twitter and I think Milo would be shocked as she tweeted a couple of nasty tweets about the girls. Here are the tweets...
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Milo doesn't care about the kids. It's Kate all the way and if this person she wants to befriend is pro-Kate, that's all that matters.
I haven't checked this blog since yesterday and I haven't read through all the threads, so if this has been discussed already I apologize. But the Kate and kids interview even made it on Bill O'Reilly's the Factor (Gret Gutfeld was hosting). Greg was not kind to Kate about the whole fiasco. He mocked her and it was pretty funny (but he didn't mock the girls).
The Fiasco has also been all over the Internet. Kate really humiliated herself this time. I'm not sure there is anything she could do to make herself come out smelling like a rose after the Today Show. I know in the past Kate has come out of every situation seemingly the "victor" but not this time.
There is a forum I belong to and someone on there posted links to reports that Kate gave those girls a verbal lashing after the interview. I really hope that isn't true because I feel for those kids, but it sounds like her, to a T.
a great learning experience.
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Yeah great learning experiences for all the times a kid will have to go on the Today show in the future! WTF, sheeple. This reminds me of Terri Irwin defending exploiting her kids because it gives them public speaking skills. Can't you just join the high school debate team for that for heaven sake?
I just don't see how rushing out and giving an interview about the abuse after it happens accomplishes much of anything.
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But what does saying silent accomplish either? Jon has bit his tongue many, many times, and it didn't help. If anything she's gotten worse. She is not a normal person who gives up and goes away if you ignore them enough.
And how do we know the kids don't feel immense comfort to feel like their dad is standing up for them and that Kate doesn't get to control everything the media hears when it comes to them? You simply cannot say that being silent is best, because we don't know how the kids feel about it. At the most, no one knows whether it would be better to take her to task or be silent. We don't really know for sure.
I don't know what's going to happen on The View on Monday because it seems they're trying to put out their own firestorm concerning Sherri Shepherd. She pretty much said that she is anti-gay and thinks gay people will burn in hell for eternity_____________________
But that's how the Duck Dynasty clan feel. They got support for their opinion. Why would Sherri be any different? She's invoking the same free speech laws that were used to protect the DD idiots.
I'm sure the twins are on TFW shit list forever. She will never ever forgive them. She see that as being disloyal to her. We all know what she thinks of that. Poor kids I'm sure their lives are even more hell as before. She crazy and scary as Octo mom.. I think she really has lost her mind, if she hasn't yet wait til Monday. I bet she been in full throttle melt down ever since the show. I'm really concern for the well being of those kids. What a mess.
Why, then, is she putting her daughters out front and center to be bullied? She's feeding them to the wolves. Does bullying only matter where she's concerned? 73
IMO - YES.
Pretty sure this is a fan:
Cristina Rich @Sienna_Star 5m
@arkchix @Kateplusmy8 C & M have to do The View Monday why?
Greedy Gosselins said... 87
I don't know what's going to happen on The View on Monday because it seems they're trying to put out their own firestorm concerning Sherri Shepherd. She pretty much said that she is anti-gay and thinks gay people will burn in hell for eternity
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Here's what she said...
http://www.eonline.com/news/500911/sherri-shepard-says-she-s-not-anti-gay-but-thinks-homosexuality-is-a-sin
Looks like TFW got her wish!! #1 on the list!
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Top-Moments-Kate-Gosselin-1076114.aspx
Greedy Gosselins said... 87
I don't know what's going to happen on The View on Monday because it seems they're trying to put out their own firestorm concerning Sherri Shepherd. She pretty much said that she is anti-gay and thinks gay people will burn in hell for eternity_____________________
But that's how the Duck Dynasty clan feel. They got support for their opinion. Why would Sherri be any different? She's invoking the same free speech laws that were used to protect the DD idiots.
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I wasn't trying to comment on what she said. I was commenting on The View having their own shit storm going on right now.
I have never seen anything like this. It's the media's fault. They're to blame for making it a negative event. Hey, Milo...it's RIGHT THERE for everyone to see. Media isn't spinning it into a negative event. Good grief, woman, open your eyes, get yourself out of Kate's rear end, and get a grip!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack Jan 17
Years ago, the media was more respectful & would have NEVER attacked a mother& 2young girls like this. So sad they made it a negative event!
You KNEW you were going straight to a conference. It's not at all clear they knew they were going to be on camera without being given a chance to freshen up.
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I find this argument/defense weak, at best. Have you seen the contracts for reality shows? The Biggest Loser, The Bachelor/Bachelorette, and Survivor contracts are all on line. They explicity state that when you arrive at said destination (the mansion, the ranch, etc) you will be filmed 24/7. Like, IMMEDIATELY upon your arrival.
If Jon and Liz didn't do their homework and read what they signed, well, I have no sympathy for them. Jon, of ALL people, should know better and told Liz to be prepared.
First impressions can't be taken back. That's just common sense, IMO.
Greedy Gosselins said... 87
''......But that's how the Duck Dynasty clan feel. They got support for their opinion. Why would Sherri be any different? She's invoking the same free speech laws that were used to protect the DD idiots.''
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Have you seen this? ''TV Line reports that 8.5 million people tuned in for the fifth season premiere of "Duck Dynasty" on Wednesday (Jan. 15), down from 12 million viewers who watched the fourth season premiere.''
I am crossing my fingers that the twitter silence from WOS is due to the usual reason...the children are with Jon. She usually only twitters when the children are with her.
in the meantime her sheeple can fight her battles for her.
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As all ways Kate let's someone else do her "dirty work".
Yes, I admit I am old fashioned in my ideas but I see a lack of morals too often . I know not many will agree with me but I have seen too many divorced parents hurt their children by their lifestyles and it does affect the children.
I agree with you, sftk!! Then again, I was completely disgusted when Jon relieved himself on his friend's driveway.
It's not easy being a parent but you just have to do the right thing and teach by example. Sometimes, my son isn't listening to me but I KNOW he's watching me so I do my best to model good behaviour. It's not hard.
Wonder if she is on twitter silence because she sent C&M home while she stayed in NYC with Steeevie. Just speculating.
Lalalalala said... 73
Does bullying only matter where she's concerned?
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Sadly I believe so.
I don't think the kids are with Jon this weekend. Remembering the (phone?) interview where he talked about being in bed, watching their Today Show appearance. He said (paraphrasing) that he was looking forward to hugging them next week.
The Biggest Loser, The Bachelor/Bachelorette, and Survivor contracts are all on line. They explicity state that when you arrive at said destination (the mansion, the ranch, etc) you will be filmed 24/7. Like, IMMEDIATELY upon your arrival.
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This was not a normal situation and nothing went as expected. Do you remember that while they were in the air, there was a domestic terrorist attack at the airport they were set to land at? A husband and father was killed. For everyone's safety, their flight was diverted, I believe to Arizona. I believe they were stuck in Arizona overnight and weren't able to get in until the next day.
Not only is it exhausting to fly to LA from Philly in today's crowded and no frills flights (I was on that same flight a couple weeks later, the same airline and everything), but they had a massive delay. And not just because of weather. Because someone was SHOT. I had several friends in the airport at the time who were posted to FB how terrified they were, and I'm just thankful that Jon and Liz and all my friends got through this safe. Had Jon and Liz arrived a few hours earlier it could have been them. I really don't think Liz thought about putting on lip gloss after that. You just want to GET THERE at that point and you're just glad that you're all right.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack Jan 17
Years ago, the media was more respectful & would have NEVER attacked a mother& 2young girls like this. So sad they made it a negative event!
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That's funny because in the good ole days there weren't reality shows and parents worked not their kids, Milo.
The media called out Kate and Kate alone. No one was being disrespectful to the girls. Everyone felt awful for the girls. There's a difference. Kate was called out for the child exploiter that she is, get over it and SHUT UP.
Pretty sure this is a fan:
Cristina Rich @Sienna_Star 5m
@arkchix @Kateplusmy8 C & M have to do The View Monday why?
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Yes, the one who asked if she could still make Kate's pizza because she didn't have a dough maker and she'd have to use store-bought dough. She's the one who is married, but plays with Calico Critters and American Girl dolls.
I think I'm remembering it correctly. Sometimes these sheeple all blend together into one big Mama Ewe.
I still can't get over some people thinking the twins were scared. Those were the least scared children I have ever seen. Cara was openly hostile. Even Mady said, "ha ha, CARA!" at one point. Mady wasn't much better, but at least her expression was a tad more pleasant. But she ruined it at the end by whispering to Kate (whispering to your mother on live TV?) that they were BETTER than most. Is it just me about the whispering? I always thought it was rude when a child whispered in a parent's ear while guests were present, and I never let my children do that.
Where is Kate's lawsuit on the twins for being so MEEEEANNNNe to her? After all, it was just her against 2 girls, and 'that's not fair!' Maybe it was Savannah Guthrie's fault for taking the wooden spoon away from Kate at the last minute. Maybe it is all JON's fault for mixing Kate's perfect DNA with non-conforming genes. Maybe it was the fault of her outift - afterall if she were wearing a micro mini disco dress that showed her crotch and a boobie shirt, maybe this wouldnt have happened!
You ladies are brilliant with your observations and comments, your intuition and comprehension. But it took me a while to understand how much the mother humiliated the children in that interview. "snap snap snap!!!! Mady! Your words!" and Mady seemed to retailiate just a bit later, not at Kate directly, but at Cara, by mentioning more than once that Cara wont speak but this is how she feels?. I dont know... Did anyone notice how Mady pronounced Cara as "Car - ah" instead of "Care -a" the way the rest of the family always has? I cant help but think that lots of 13 year old girls try to alter their names at that point (including yours truly) and I was glad to see Mady supporting her sister in that.
And I think the sheeple's frustration is that they cannot find a way to blame Jon for this, not even a little. Drugs, sex, shoplifting, bad grades, all Jon-blamable. Refusing to perform when their mother snaps her fingers and commands - not so much.
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I have never seen anything like this. It's the media's fault. They're to blame for making it a negative event. Hey, Milo...it's RIGHT THERE for everyone to see. Media isn't spinning it into a negative event. Good grief, woman, open your eyes, get yourself out of Kate's rear end, and get a grip!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack Jan 17
Years ago, the media was more respectful & would have NEVER attacked a mother& 2young girls like this. So sad they made it a negative event!
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Milo? Milo, honey? Could you put down your TFW scrapbook and People magazines for a minute so we can talk about this? Sit down and get comfy, I won't take up too much of your time. Put down the phone, no tweeting.
Now, with regards to your statement above re: the media's
"disrespect" of your hero and the way it used to be in years past, you have to realize that back when the media was respectful, TLC spent up to a week getting enough footage for one J & K + 8 show and it was heavily edited to show TFW in the best light. Also, she had the TLC machine behind her during those years. Until 2009 when her head finally got so big and her demands so outrageous that she was let go.
What happened on Thursday was LIVE and the REAL TFW in all her glory. She showed her true colors, all by herself and will have to deal with the fallout.
Thanks for listening. Can I get you a drink of water, a sleeping pill?
No? Just your People magazine and some Kate + 8 DVD's? Ok. Good Night!!
there were 2 guys and a girl, 20-30 something, one guy was dressed noraml the other, had on 1500 shirt on and black pants with knee high boots and the girl had on a 1500 dress. Yeah, people looked, but you know hey, they had no problem with it, and neither did I. Infact I said to them: uniquely cool. It was. I the summer I see all knids of weird dress so?
I do think both Jon & Liz, have past personal issues to get through, if their relationship is going to make it or not. All anyone should care about is if Liz, gets along with 1. Jon, 2, his kids, 3, her kids & Jon get along & 4 Jon's kids & Liz's kids get along. As for ex's, Jon said he does get along with Liz, ex. As for Liz getting along with Kate, I don't ever see that happening, Kate has to get over Jon and move on, Kate take the stick out. Jon said Kate is noisy into his business. Kate MYOB. What Jon does, is his business, what concerts the kids is both yours & Jons business. JMO
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English, please? I think I got some of it but definitely not all....
Earlier today I asked about Splash News after seeing the credit under the picture of TFW and the twins on ROL. I finally had a chance to look it up and it appears the average person can sell pictures of celebs to them.
So does this mean that Steve took the pictures? Does anyone have a link that shows all the pictures--I've only seen the one--is Skevee in any of them? If Skevee took the pictures, then TFW not only humiliated the twins, but she made money off of them. Again. Do you think she split the money with Skevee? Biotch.
For all we know, the twins could've quietly told Jon to speak out because they were tired of the crap TFW was putting out there.
''TV Line reports that 8.5 million people tuned in for the fifth season premiere of "Duck Dynasty" on Wednesday (Jan. 15), down from 12 million viewers who watched the fourth season premiere.''
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Yes, Remona, I was aware of that. It makes me sad for humanity.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack Jan 17
Years ago, the media was more respectful & would have NEVER attacked a mother& 2young girls like this. So sad they made it a negative event!
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I'd like to know where she's been reading/watching any media that attacks the twins. They've all laid the blame squarely on Kate.
And years ago the media was very critical of Joan Crawford when Mommie Dearest hit the book stands. Difference there is JC was lucky enough to be deceased.
"First impressions can't be taken back. That's just common sense. "
Maybe first impressions can't be taken back, but they definitively can evolve. Like a lot of posters here, my first impressions of Kate wasn't all that bad. It changed. A lot.
The first time I met the love of my life I happened to look like a bag lady. (Long story...) I definitely wasn't at my best. I wasn't even clean, for crying out loud. Good for me, this guy was smart enough to go beyond the weird first impression and not judge me once and for all on the way I looked on that particular day.
Do you remember that while they were in the air, there was a domestic terrorist attack at the airport they were set to land at? A husband and father was killed._____________________
Yes, I do remember that. It was horrible. But there Liz was, making silly faces while Jon was smiling at a camera.
I also stand by my comment that reality tv contracts are all pretty standard stuff and written very much alike.
Am I the only one who doesn't feel sorry for the twins? I think they planned to stick it to the man (the man being their mother) and succeeded spectacularly. Cara, especially. Mady went off plan a little, but she did pretty well. Not as well as Cara, though! I was proud of them. You go, girls!! I can see them at school giggling with their friends about it. "My mom was SO MAD!! HA HA HA HA!!!" That was the impression I got. Am I the only one?
Yes, I do remember that. It was horrible. But there Liz was, making silly faces while Jon was smiling at a camera.
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So, how long after bad things happen are we to go without smiling before it's okay to smile again? How silly.
Many people deal with stressful situations by trying to make the best of it, smiling, being of good humor. There is nothing, NOTHING wrong with that. The Onion issued an absolutely brilliant publication after 9/11 that was hysterically funny. The vast majority of people who read it said not only did it help the relieve some tension, but that if there were Pulitzer prizes for parodies it would get it. Did they do something wrong?
To each his own I suppose. But you're stuck on a plane, you have no idea when you will finally get there, something terrible is happening at an airport you were supposed to go to, and you're about to go on your first reality show for two weeks straight. I don't fault anyone for being goofy. I always feel better when I can laugh about things.
I don't fault anyone for being goofy. I always feel better when I can laugh about things.
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Unlike Kate, who cried louder than her three-year-olds when the plane couldn't land on the trip to Utah.
I thought the point of the discussion was why Liz couldn't have run a comb through her hair before appearing on a highly rated reality show.
I guess I'm just trying to point out that delayed flight or not, they were both fully aware the cameras are ON the second you arrive.
The reason Liz's language choices bother me is because, again, she knew she'd be on television and that her kids, Jon's kids, and millions of others would see her behaviour. So to say she only acts like that when she's not around the kids is a moot point. She knew they'd see it eventually. I personally wouldn't allow her to watch my own son.
To each his own, indeed. Your opinion is just as valid as mine. No harm, no foul.
I also think Jon deserves better. And so do his kids.
There are many ways of speaking out, like speaking to your lawyer and the court. Why does it have to always involve having his mug on TV?
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It doesn't always involve getting his mug on TV. He has bit his tongue and STFU about a million and a half times. Go look at Kate's worst moments for the past three years. Thirty worst moments in all. I think Jon responded publicly to all of maybe 3 or 4 of them. I think he's finally decided that STFU doesn't HELP and that he has every right to say how he feels just like she does.
Pm 82...
I have hope they can maintain silence.
At their age I learned it was my most powerful way to stand up for myself.
My NPD mother never got it, but those around me did.
Many apologied after for not standing up for us, they didn't know how ( 80's)
franky
Dwindle said... 108
Of course it's Jon's fault plus the girls had to have low blood sugar and that's Steve's fault cause he ate all the pizza.and it's Savannah fault for not knowing how to help Kate.
English, please? I think I got some of it but definitely not all....
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I think that you did better than I did with it! :)
Thanks for listening. Can I get you a drink of water, a sleeping pill?
No? Just your People magazine and some Kate + 8 DVD's? Ok. Good Night!!
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lol! And her Kate blow-up doll for some quality snuggling time!
Wendy Williams Hot Topics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_VlRzwUDjk
Loved the audience reaction on this link. They didn't seem to agree with Wendy that Kate is pretty and W acknowledged that she knew someone was encouraging them to clap. lol
Did anyone notice how Mady pronounced Cara as "Car - ah" instead of "Care -a" the way the rest of the family always has? I cant help but think that lots of 13 year old girls try to alter their names at that point (including yours truly) and I was glad to see Mady supporting her sister in that.
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I heard that, but I thought that she was emphasizing the last syllable of her name, not yelling at her, but in the same way that one would say Mom-ME' when trying to get Mom's attention. Therefore, it was Car AH!
Tweet-la I know you had wanted to take a break from the blog and had bid farewell but now every time I see you pop in to comment on this current mess I keep thinking of that line from Airplane!: "I picked the wrong week to quit drinking."
LOL.
Greedy Gosselins, I am terribly impressed by your superior manners, morals, and grooming, especially the grooming.
I'm afraid I'm more like Liz. The only time I was in the Phoenix airport, I was wearing comfortable, un-fashionable clothing and a large down jacket. The jacket got some funny looks, but it was entirely suitable for my departure point and the I was compliment by the flight attendant at my destination for how well prepared I was for the trek across the tarmac.
Obviously I'm a function over form girl, while you are not. To each her own.
Greedy Gosselins, I am terribly impressed by your superior manners, morals, and grooming, especially the grooming.
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Thank you anonymous(?). lol I pride myself on having high standards. As a mother, one has to.
I'm kidding (slightly). I, like many of you, grew up in a dysfunctional home and married a very dysfunctional man. I'm trying very hard to break the cycle for my own son. And I get lots of therapy - I'm never shy about admitting that.
Maybe I'm weird but the love I have for my boy is almost over powering. Like Missy Francis, until I had a child of my own, I had no idea about life. He has put everything into perspective. I'm very, very fortunate. There's many things in life I've done wrong but now all I can do is my very best to make things as right as they can be.
The jacket got some funny looks, but it was entirely suitable for my departure point and the I was compliment by the flight attendant at my destination for how well prepared I was for the trek across the tarmac.
Obviously I'm a function over form girl, while you are not. To each her own.
Were you on your way to film a reality show on VH1?? lol
That is hilarious!
Way back in the day my design teacher touted form ... Last evaluation, she admitted she loved to see how I would dress each day, and I never backed down.
The teacher I thought hated me, loved my qyurkiness
I was ALWAYS function over flair, but still had flair.
Today? Checkered shirts and tights, lmao
franky
OK, here are a couple of the reasons why I'm not judging Liz by what we've seen so far.
1. I curse like only a Jersey girl can, in fact profanity is my 2nd language. And yes, I've probably cursed (recently) around either kids or little old ladies - especially as I tripped up the curb and was trying to catch my balance so I didn't face plant into a parking meter.
2. When I fly I dress in jeans because its all about the comfort. I may look a bit rumpled at times but oh well. I was once at a government conference where I had to attend a meeting in the clothes I'd worn on the plane. My flight was late and they lost my luggage. No one cared.
To top it all off, I'm a preacher's kid and an officer's wife. My dad was an Episcopal priest and guess what? He cursed too. However, I've never sold my sons's privacy. I don't beat my dog and I've never pushed or hit my husband (nor he me).
Greedy Gosselins said... 120
I thought the point of the discussion was why Liz couldn't have run a comb through her hair before appearing on a highly rated reality show.
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Well color me reality show challenged. I had no idea Couples Therapy was "highly rated". Compared to what? My Strange Addiction?
I don't know much about her but I like Liz based on what somebody wrote here that she doesn't tolerate Kate's bullshit. That rates her pretty high in my book.
In the old days people would dress up to go on planes. That's not what I see anymore. Most people just dress casual or comfortable. Even flight attendants are looking more casual. I fly a lot, usually cross country four to five hours or sometimes international 8-plus, and I've learned that comfort is key for me. I've had too many delays, cancellations and other hiccups to want to do anything else. I usually wear leggings and some layers like a tshirt and cardigan, and a slouched beanie that's great for holding headphones in place if they are slipping out of my ears. I never fly with my contacts in because they turn to sandpaper. So it's always glasses. At that point, why bother to wear makeup so dressed down and in glasses? If people at my destination are going to judge me for that, then so be it. I look like half the people in the airport I see anyway. I take a shower when I get to where I'm staying, the last thing I want to do when I arrive is take the time to freshen up in some nasty airport bathroom. If that's not how you fly and you want to look like a movie star who cares, but why judge people for how they fly as long as they're not hurting anyone?
I like Liz for being a true dog lover who wants to share that with the children in her life and has a heart for a very misunderstood breed. And I like that she didn't change a darn thing about being a dog lover when Kate tried to bring her down about it. #pittbullsareawesome #suckitTFW
@MiloandJack: @Ann_IW Seriously, have U ever seen such a hoopla...MediaBlitz over such a small matter N world affairs...2 Shy Teens...#NewsBreaking!!
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Why don't they get that it's not about two shy teens but rather the way TFW reacted to their "shyness". Clap/snap!!! Say your words!!! Milo and many of the other fans really do not care about the kids at all. It's all about TFW. I just don't get it.
Why don't they get that it's not about two shy teens but rather the way TFW reacted to their "shyness".
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Gaaa!!! I KNOW.
This would have been NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING, if the girls had clamped up and been shy over questions about Justin Bieber and The Hunger Games. Then Kate could have put her arms around them, said hey it's ok girls my first live TV interview was rough too it happens! And then she could have steered the interview to more neutral topics. Savannah would have definitely helped steer it back on track, it woulda been nothing.
Instead she panicked and insisted that they *clap clap* or *snap snap*, depending on who's telling the story, defend her honor, back her up on exploiting them and hating Jon and say their lines, and THAT is what pissed people off.
I forgot, did anyone say that Jane Valez did a story on this too? I must have missed that.
So guess what, now the Valez interview is a link on CNN's main page called "Gosselin twins' awkward interview". CNN is the 78th most visited web site around the entire web. How many people are going to see this, Kate? GREAT JOB.
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/showbiz/2014/01/17/jvm-kate-gosselin-twin-girls-interview.hln.html
Kate must be getting desperate to retweet something positive about her girls being on TV. She broke her silence with this:
Retweeted by Kate Gosselin
Sherry V @arkchix 11h
@Kateplusmy8 can't wait for Monday #TheView
But if she had checked this person out first, she'd see that her only other Gosselin comment is this retweet calling Kate a famewhore:
Retweeted by Sherry V
RedneckRealityCheck @RedneckReality 23h
Kate Gosselin’s Twins Cara and Mady To File For Legal Emancipation From Famewhore Mother - http://www.redneckrealitycheck.com/2014/01/17/kate-gosselins-twins-cara-and-mady-to-file-for-legal-emancipation-from-famewhore-mother-2/ … pic.twitter.com/pahY9Pcw72
Ouch!
Schmecky's tweets are here: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1401/16/sbt.01.html
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 123
Tweet-la I know you had wanted to take a break from the blog and had bid farewell but now every time I see you pop in to comment on this current mess I keep thinking of that line from Airplane!: "I picked the wrong week to quit drinking."
LOL.
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That is sooo funny. When I made the comment a couple of days ago, after my goodbye to you all, that's the first thing that popped into my mind.
Oh well, the best laid plans of mice and men often go astray. :S
Not sure if this has been posted yet here. You tube video from outside the window at the Today Show prior to the interview. The girls look miserable and Kate is practically pissing in her pants to is so happy she's going to be on TV again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-1i3cFIZFs&feature=player_detailpage
Oh My Lord High Sodium. If that wasn't telling! She looks like she's ready to sell both her own and the souls of her daughters. Actually it's a little spooky.
I don't know what's going to happen on The View on Monday because it seems they're trying to put out their own firestorm concerning Sherri Shepherd.
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I think the EP of The View, Bill Geddie, is cut from the same cloth as Kate Coyne when it comes to championing TFW. I don't expect too much 'stage mother fright' to rear it's head on Monday with him in charge of creative editing.
Hook 'em Horns said... 117
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I agree with you. I think it was a big FU to Kate from the twins.
I thought they all pronounced Cara's name as Ca- ( as in Cat) -rah. In this region, it would be Care- a. Dunno. I did think Mady was trying to draw Cara into saying something, too.Will be interesting to see what happens on The View. I really hope the girls weren't punished or belittled too severely.
It's so ironic, that the only time TFW tweeted about a media appearances beforehand, it blew up in her face. BIG TIME.
And now she's retweeting a VIEW-related post from someone who once called her a 'famewhore'? Hoo boy, you couldn't script this if you tried.
If indeed The View was taped on Thursday, I suspect the girls did a better job because of the tongue lashing and any threats she lobbed at them. She will be smug on Twitter on Monday. You just wait.
I think she is Twitter silent because Jon has the kids and Steve is at the Konpound. They are working on their publicity campaign to get Kate a show. Steve is a dirt bag. The rumors about those two are never going away as long as he keeps himself in her life. Is the draw money? Sex? What the hell? I don't get it. Never will.
What did Sherri Shepherd do now?
An Open Letter to Kate Gosselin:
Dear Kate, I am watching this sad saga of parental alienation taking place and it makes me think of my own situation. My three girls are now adults, and I can see the toll that my own parental alienation has done to them.
My ex was a cheater and my hate for him knew no bounds. But I loved our kids more than anything. I hated that our girls had to be subjected to his constant stream of girlfriends, but there was nothing I could do about it. It made me sick with worry.
As they grew into teenagers they started to voice their desire to do other things besides visiting him on the weekends. He would grow angry to the point where he would just send them home. This made me happy happy happy!!! Until one day they had an argument with him and it was the last argument they had. He never contacted them again. I was the hero! I called him and called him and called him and he would constantly hang up. I took the girls for therapy!! I did all the "right" things but unfortunately it was too late. He wasn't interested in competing with me and my "bribes" to keep the girls wanting to be with me. Their father has missed proms, college graduations and weddings. He has not met his grandchildren. He has no family at this point and is dying of cancer.
Today my girls have abandonment issues. One is divorced, one is just married, but with narcisisstic traits, and the third, middle child still lives at home at 27, unable to sustain any type of relationship.
Kate you have a chance to turn this around starting today. Take those girls off television and encourage them to love their dad. He may not be your idea of a perfect father, but you chose him. Please don't let your children become innocent victims of your hatred. It's not too late.
Ingrid said... 126
Wendy Williams Hot Topics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_VlRzwUDjk
Loved the audience reaction on this link. They didn't seem to agree with Wendy that Kate is pretty and W acknowledged that she knew someone was encouraging them to clap. lol
January 18, 2014 at 9:24 PM
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Haha I was looking for this yesterday. Awesome!
I watched Jon on Wendy Williams finally and there's nothing more to be said about that, but before when Wendy was going through the current events and providing commentary I found myself nodding over and over. This woman's take on things is so spot on and not just about the Gosselins.
She has her head on straight and some real common sense about our world, and that's not always something you see from journalists. I don't think I've ever watched her before. I really like her.
Admin,
So agree, pit bulls are awesome! My middle daughter just started Veterinary College and the first year has been daunting. Right as the semester began last fall, she got a listserv message about a pit bull mix in a shelter who would be put down because he had kennel cough (easily treated but highly contagious) My daughter drove three hours to the Bronx to adopt him! At first, I was very upset that she would take on this responsibility as she is under so much pressure in school . I knew she was going to be running back and forth between classes to walk him. To be honest, I was also worried about the pit bull's reputation for aggressiveness(this mixed breed dog looks mostly pit bull)
Both my daughter and dog were home for the holidays and he, although energetic , is a love! I know I feel better knowing that my daughter and her roommate have him for protection now too-his bark is fierce!
Thanks for the shout out about bit bulls. My daughter's dog has changed all my preconceived reservations about this breed. I even bought her a "keep calm and adopt a pit bull" shirt for Christmas. Sadly, the majority of dogs in shelters are pit bull mixes.
My daughter drove three hours to the Bronx to adopt him!
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Aww, good for her! Lucky dog.
I think she is Twitter silent because Jon has the kids and Steve is at the Konpound.
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Have you noticed some people say "next" weekend to mean the very next weekend as in THIS weekend? And some people say next weekend to mean two weeks from now. I think I've talked about this discrepancy many times with people and always got a different answer what "next" means. For me I'll say "this" weekend to mean the one coming up and "the weekend after" to mean the one after, to avoid confusion.
In any case Jon said he has them next weekend and I"m not sure if he is a person who "next" means this weekend or the one after, lol.
Oh My Lord High Sodium. If that wasn't telling! She looks like she's ready to sell both her own and the souls of her daughters. Actually it's a little spooky.
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I noticed how GIDDY she was. She looks like someone who just closed on a house, or found out she was pregnant, or got engaged. Who smiles like THAT just for a stupid TV appearance to expose her kids? She really LOOOOOVES this, there's no denying that. The attention just makes her so happy, and that is very sad. Maybe therapy would be good to figure out why this sort of thing makes her so happy and why she can't derive happiness from normal things.
Steve is in New Zealand with Gina and the kids. There's a lovely picture of them on Kate's timeline
Dot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmW-ScmGRMA
LOL
Tweet-la this is for you: Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue!
cathyn518 said... 147
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So happy for the dog, your daughter and your family to have this wonderful new addition. Sorry to repeat here, but please everyone watch Pit bulls & Parolees on Animal Channel.It is heartwarming and heart-wrenching, and helps viewers understand more about the breed and mixes of it, and the desperate need for understanding and adoption .Tia is terrific and btw no fan of TFW and her remarks about pit bulls!
Jon sees them on Tuesdays, doesn't he? Besides their custody arrangements for alternate weekends, that is? I'm glad, because it'd be a long, l-o-n-g week of heartache (and empty arms) for him, otherwise. And I think they'll need/want to see their daddy, after all that's happened in the past few weeks.
Dot can you provide a cut and paste of the picture? I went on her it Elaine (really scary place) and didnt see it. Thanks.
Lily
localyocul @145 - All TFW will thae away from that clip is "They think I'm preeeeeeeetty!"
Steve is in New Zealand with Gina and the kids. There's a lovely picture of them on Kate's timeline
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Do you have the link? I thought that was an old picture of them...perhaps I looked at the wrong one.
Have you noticed some people say "next" weekend to mean the very next weekend as in THIS weekend?
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Yes, and it drives me crazy. Same for the weather reports. If you're watching a weather scan for your area at 1 a.m. they will say "tonight's weather," you don't know if they mean for the rest of "tonight," as in the early morning, (which they consider night) or if they mean tonight because it's actually 1 a.m. on that day.
localyocul said... 149
What did Sherri Shepherd do now?
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Gave an interview and said that she grew up believing that homosexuality was wrong, it was a sin, and sinners go to hell. Something like that. The interview is online.
Well color me reality show challenged. I had no idea Couples Therapy was "highly rated". Compared to what? My Strange Addiction?
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Yeah, I guess the one that featured the woman who ate (or smelled) dirty diapers brought in millions of viewers. There's really a demand among diaper fetishers (?) for such subject matter.
Growing UP Gosselin...Keeping UP with the Kardashians....
yep, WOS has a plan to put those twins front and center, and her being the ringmaster..
if she can't be the star, her second best shot at continued filming is playing Mom to teenage reality stars.
I hope the twin's poor performance on the Today show sealed that prospect as a no-go.
Tweet-la this is for you: Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue!
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LOL! I know just how he feels! Thanks for the link.
Kate is on twitter silence because she knows people are wondering about Monday's View taping. Was it already taped? Or will it be live on Monday? Will the Gs show up? Will it be Kate and the girls, or just Kate? Are they in NYC now? Did they stay there, or will they be going back? This is just like her "I've got a secret" tweets. She's loving every minute of it. She loves this game.
As fa as pit bulls are concerned, I am a fan. My SIL has one, and he is a Hurricane Katrina rescue. He is the sweetest thing ever. When people come to visit, he parks himself right in front of them, stares at them meaningfully to get their attention, then rolls on his back for a belly rub. SIL has two small children, and her pit bull obviously thinks of himself as their guardian/protector, but is very gentle and loving. He's just a wonderful dog. Good choice!
Ugh, it irritates me when the sheeple try to make all negativity about Kate into negativity toward the kids. Milo is now saying that the media is being mean two the girls. Not true. The media is presenting negative stories about a narcissistic famewhore who got caught trying to manipulate and sell out her young daughters. There is nothing but sympathy for the girls. The sheeple used to say there were that non-fans made death threats towards the kids (I never saw a single one). They claim that everyone who doesn't like Kate also hates the kids. That's a lie, too. They need to get a grip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-1i3cFIZFs&feature=player_detailpage
Wowser, that phony toothy smile is just all over the camera, she is soo in love with the idea of being in a studio again. Megawatt narcissist came to play. Oh what, unhappy daughters? Daughters? Honey, this is all about and for ME.
I picked the wrong week to drive cross country! You know you are too engaged when your restroom break includes a check in to this blog!
You ladies are funny and smart.
Greedy Gosselins, I am terribly impressed by your superior manners, morals, and grooming, especially the grooming.
I'm afraid I'm more like Liz. The only time I was in the Phoenix airport, I was wearing comfortable, un-fashionable clothing and a large down jacket. The jacket got some funny looks, but it was entirely suitable for my departure point and the I was compliment by the flight attendant at my destination for how well prepared I was for the trek across the tarmac.
Obviously I'm a function over form girl, while you are not. To each her own.
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Really, no need for the sarcasm. I think that some here just wondered why Liz couldn't have done a quick change, saying if you fly dressed for comfort, fine, but would it have been any trouble once they arrived for filming to make a quick ladies room stop, slipped on some clean jeans and a nice sweater or shirt, and run a comb through her hair.
Maybe she just didn't feel like doing it. It was her prerogative, but some feel that such a freshening up would have taken no longer than five minutes.
I've only read the comments about Liz's airplane attire, but you know what?
People put too much emphasis on their appearance.The lady flew for comfort.
At least she isn't botoxed, fake boobed, fake baked, manicured, pedicured, hair extentioned, dressed to the nines off the work of her children's backs.
She's a real person doing it the real mediocre mom way.
I say KUDOS to her for keeping true to herself and keeping it REAL.
Dmasy,
I hope the long drive provides some lovely sights and scenery and uplifts you.
What strikes me as funny is that Kate really thinks she is a natural at all the media stuff. She really does think she's a pro. To the rest of the world (except Milo), she just looks like an a@@hole. She doesn't realize her fake-ness is so obvious, and all the flashing of fake veneers makes people cringe. She thought she saved that interview by being all bubbly and talkative, but she looked manic with that crazed smile, whipping her head back and forth between the girls. She looked like that head was going to do a complete 360 spin, Exorcist-style.
I agree with Carrie Ann. Kate has no self-awareness.
Angie said: At least she isn't botoxed, fake boobed, fake baked, manicured, pedicured, hair extentioned, dressed to the nines off the work of her children's backs.
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Exactly.I don't think Liz should be judged on this. Maybe her language, or attitude to Jon, from what I hear, idk,but sounds like she is being real. To each her own re: appearance.If she is not wealthy maybe she does not have a lot of fancier clothes.
Glad my post about the Access Hollywood went through the other very late night! I just got a kindle tablet, lots to learn on it. It was the very best
interview I could find-finally someone 'gets' tfw:)
Yahoo must know that we're discussing wardrobe. This was on their homepage, but it says far more about Kate's attire, than Liz's. For the record though, I don't think we've seen enough of her yet to really form an educated opinion, but I just desperately wanted to straighten her askew hat (sigh, yes I know that's the style).
http://shine.yahoo.com/fashion/what-your-wardrobe-says-about-your-psyche-205902098.html
The highlights that pertain to Kate:
“This niche group of professionals applies psychological theories to what we wear, understanding that our clothing choices impact not only our own thoughts and emotions, but also those of the people we come in contact with.” It works the other way too, of course, with emotions, psyches, and underlying issues driving people to wear what they wear. And that aspect — what your clothes really say about you — is pretty fascinating.
If you wear very high heels often …
“You stand on solid ground with your shoes, and they carry you through life, so they do say a lot. Wearing very high heels might mean she feels rather inept and cannot look at people at eye level, and uses the shoes to elevate her, both physically and in her mind.”
If you cling to too-tight clothing …
“It could simply be ignorance of not knowing how to dress for one’s body type. Or, culturally, and in an urban world, it’s very cool and va-va-voom for clothes to be tight — it gets a lot of attention. So it could be a way for women to feel sexy, and that they just don’t know how to portray sexy without clothes that are tight.”
Maybe this is Liz & Kate too (not dressing appropriately for the situation)?
If you refuse to ever dress up — or down …
“It’s cliché to say, but this goes back to your comfort level and when you feel your best. I had a client once who purposefully would not dress up for anything — he didn’t know how to dress up, it was a comfort-level thing — but he would literally do it to piss people off. Then there are the others who wear a fur and stilettos and it’s like, 'We’re just going for brunch!' They want all eyes on them. Both cases are seeking validation. Perhaps they’re not getting it somewhere else in their lives.”
High Sodium Content - Thanks for posting those videos. Wow, in the second one, recorded during the interview, it was so obvious how upset Kate was. Her jaw clenched, tight lipped smile at one point... You could tell all over her face that she was not pleased with her kids. It was nice to see the interview from that angle. Too bad it wasn't the whole interview.
Kate broke twitter silence to let the masses know that people are excited for the view on monday!
ha ha, that is so awesome though that someone upthread ( shoot I cant find who said it/found it) checked out that tweeters timeline and the only other tweet is not flattery for Kate.
That just proves that no matter what is said, Kate only hears that people love her.
"Dont throw pearls at swines"!
"The wolf in sheeps clothing" !
Kate , you might still be on TV but you are a Laughing Stock. If you do make it back on TV it will only be because some network wants to make money off of people making fun of you.
If you love your kids, as you say you do, dont drag them down with you.
yep to whoever said that all kate will hear in the WW hot topics is " They all think I am soooo pretty"
There's an excellent article in today's New York Times magazine section entitled "The Online Avengers - Are anti-bullying activists the saviors of the Internet -- or just a different kind of curse?" OpAntiBully is mentioned, as is Anonymous and a few other names that looked familiar. It's a long article, but interesting in light of what we've seen with BV and his buddies. The comments are worth looking at. One is below.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/19/magazine/the-online-avengers.html?ref=magazine&target=comments&_r=0
Most anons have NEVER read a book on criminal court
procedure, much less had to physically subdue a violent suspect.
Yet, they think they can lecture those on the front lines of crime about what to do. Silly, ridiculous and absurd.
Since kate retweeted that they will be on The View, I have no doubt that it went fine. Let's not forget that it was pre-taped, so even if there was a repeat of the girls behavior on The Today Show, they will have had plenty of time to edit the interview to adhere to Kate's Agenda. Unfortunately, what Kate fails (time, and time again) to understand - is that even "IF" (and it's a mighty implausible "IF" indeed), all eight children are on their hands and knees begging her to get them back on TV, that it does NOT mean that they should be on TV. They are children and cannot possibly fully comprehend both the benefits and perils of fame. There is a reason that minors are not allowed to make these decisions. Heck, even adults are not allowed to drink until age 21 in this country because of this. They are simply too young to have reasonable judgement. Kate Gosselin at 37 years old doesn't seem to have it either.
That's what the sheeple fail to understand. How can anyone with any reason and logic not admit that Kate's behavior during the Today Show was flawed in the very least- in her reaction? Instead, they can only blame the media, and the girls, (which in turn was blamed on Jon for both having too much influence on them and not enough- GAH!). I predict that may even get worse. I saw on one of there timelines that they were retweeting tweets that blamed the girls (I think goody) and few others. The rest of them are as silent as Kate, which speaks volumes as well.
Exactly.I don't think Liz should be judged on this. Maybe her language, or attitude to Jon, from what I hear, idk,but sounds like she is being real. To each her own re: appearance.If she is not wealthy maybe she does not have a lot of fancier clothes.
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It's not a matter of fancy clothes, or designer clothes. I can't believe that someone doesn't have a pair of clean, unripped jeans or a white or colored pressed shirt or top. Heck, you can find nice (sometimes new) ones at the Salvation Army or other thrift shops. You don't have to be wealthy to look put together.
OrangeCrusher1 said... 170
Wowser, that phony toothy smile is just all over the camera, she is soo in love with the idea of being in a studio again.
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The piehole frozen half open is kind of creepy. How can she hold her mouth in the same position for so long? That's gotta hurt.
Came across this on facebook...
A Pretty Face is Nothing if you have an Ugly Heart!!!
Thats for you Kate Gosselin!
T said... 182
Unfortunately, what Kate fails (time, and time again) to understand - is that even "IF" (and it's a mighty implausible "IF" indeed), all eight children are on their hands and knees begging her to get them back on TV, that it does NOT mean that they should be on TV.
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ITA! Also, even if all eight kids are BEGGING for a new show, that doesn't mean squat. What do the Gosselins have to offer that didn't fail in 2011? It's just pathetic. The Hayes family had Table for Twelve. It's over. Are they out begging for a new show? What about the family with the Quints. No new show begging from them either. The Hispanic family in NY with sextuplets that had a brief run. No begging for more there either.
Kate made millions more than any of these families. Enjoy your family and your cash and move on. Begging for the past to come back is such a waste of all of their lives.
I havent watched COuples Therapy and not sure if I will, and have no opinion of Liz at this point, but we should all remember....
The show is for ratings. They are looking for contraversy. They are trying to show people at their worst, so when they do all the counselling we will then get to see them at their best.
In a perfect world I might have thought " Oh I should fresehn up before we land", but might have just also said " to heck with it, Im tired Ill shower when I get there".
Current trend Styles for 2014... not my cup of tee but if you are one who dresses in style...
http://www.thefashionspot.com/style-trends/351901-15-ways-to-rock-your-ripped-jeans-this-season/#/slide/1
http://fashioncognoscente.blogspot.ca/2014/01/trend-alert-ripped-black-jeans.html
Not sure exactly what Liz had on, but sounds like she was right on trend with todays jean scene :)
Re Liz's disheveled appearance. If their forced layover in Phoenix included overnight at the airport, as someone said, perhaps she DID change into fresh clothing, but it was no longer fresh when they arrived in California. It must have been quite an ordeal, not knowing how long they would be held up or even if they'd get to the correct airport. I've only experienced flight delays once or twice, and never that long of one, but it was nerve wracking, not knowing when, or if, we'd get going again.
If TFMJGTP is twitting about the View appearance, it must have gone better than the Today interview. I hope she wasn't able to coerce the girls into trashing their dad, though. That would be despicable. Oh, what am I saying! She IS despicable!
Midnight Madness said... 183
It's not a matter of fancy clothes, or designer clothes. I can't believe that someone doesn't have a pair of clean, unripped jeans or a white or colored pressed shirt or top.
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And in Kate's case, a simple brown paper bag over her head would do wonders for her appearance.
I was about to study abroad for a month and my connecting flight was cancelled so I missed my international flight. It was bad because I hated to unpack anything and mess up my good packing or forget something. I had planned everything carefully right down to what I'd wear on the plane. Add to that the stress of wondering if I would be able to get on the international flight the next day. I don't remember if I changed or what but I know it was definitely last on my priorities.
Midnight Madness said... 183
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That's true but my point was I prefer her unkempt appearance to Kate's fake expensive hooker look which her children paid for. But I guess viewers will see more of the 'real' Liz as the show goes on. I don't intend to watch though. What was Jon wearing when they arrived?
The rest of them are as silent as Kate, which speaks volumes as well.
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Where were all of the faithful supporters? The Walmart sign person, Barb, the two giddy teen fans, Austin, Gypsi, the Charity Lady...why weren't they offering her their love and affection and dishing out the platitudes?
And what does it matter what the kids think about filming. Unless there's an offer on the table why should the public care what they think? Kate never really explains why we should care. I don't think the public cares what they think about irrelevant things anymore than they care whether they like chocolate or vanilla icecream. Who cares.
Ah, who cares what Liz says, does or wears? She is her own person, does not represent what, the Gosselin name or brand, is not really involved in raising these children, she is their father's current girlfriend. To discuss her at all is, in my book, frankly unnecessary. But that is just my opinion.
Where is that picture of Steve snd family in New Zealand?
I could personally care less about Liz' appearance. Even though she came across as a bit of a ball buster, when they were meeting with the therapist, she did seem open to listening and working on her own faults. Something we know Kate would be completely incapable of.
I'm interested to see how CT plays out for them.
Just popping in for a minute to post this funny clip. In light of the "swearing" debate, I thought this was cute:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPgpRw9tiuM
Meant to say in my earlier post -- Maybe Jon is happy that Liz doesn't care about appearances. There are far more important things in the grand scheme of things. Look at TFMJGTP -- she was so focused on appearances that she had a melt-down when a toddler got a drip of ice cream on her shirt. The contrast must be refreshing for him.
Ah, who cares what Liz says, does or wears? She is her own person, does not represent what, the Gosselin name or brand, is not really involved in raising these children, she is their father's current girlfriend. To discuss her at all is, in my book, frankly unnecessary. But that is just my opinion.
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Isn't she present when the kids are with Jon? Do they all participate in events/activities together, or don't the Gosselin children ever see her? I really don't know what arrangements they have.
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