Tuesday, January 21, 2014

Recap: Couples Therapy episode 3, The Ghost of TFW Past (and present, and future)

Last time on Couples Therapy, Taylor and Farrah ended their short-lived (and certainly entertaining) infatuation with each other. Aw. Apparently the straw that broke the camel's collagen back was when Farrah insulted Taylor by explaining that she, Farrah, was an entrepreneur, and Taylor was not. Oh, snap! The fact that Farrah can even pronounce entrepreneur correctly is pretty impressive. There is something so hysterical about Duck Lips, arguably one of the most malevolent reality T.V. personalities ever (D.V. my ass, Taylor--there I said it now I can get on with this), being this ticked off at Teen Duck Lips, her baby-eyebrow-plucking lady-in-waiting. Whoever had the divine inspiration to cast these two fools together deserves an award. These sort of brilliant ideas usually only come to producers Sunday mornings at places like the Santa Monica Stairs. Some other stuff happened with the other less-interesting cast that's not nearly as fun as this, but I think I heard something about a prostitute. Coming up, Dr. Jenn (that's the therapist running this whole shebang who sort of looks like a very pretty skeleton) is calling Duck Lips out on her positively mental behavior, and Duck Lips actually takes it to heart and decides from here on out she is going to be a better person and mother. Heh, just kidding, she's pissed as hell.

Day Three in the Couples Therapy pad, and the fallout continues from something that happened last week when we last left them. I think it was over Duck Lips being mad her room was too hot. I'm serious. Some 20-something production assistant sort of rolls her eyes, as if she's been dealing with this diva and her demands for weeks now. I guess Duck Lips hasn't considered maybe that gal or someone else in production cranked up the heat in her room on purpose.

It is soon revealed Duck Lips is also upset because the vast Los Angeles mansion (it's so huge it echoes) is not big enough. Oh, and they gave her pea green towels. Pea green towels, people. Duck Lips says she wants her homemade lattes and filet minon and bigger mansion. I like Dr. Jenn already even though I didn't want to. She is basically like eh, this is really about Duck Lips's other issues going on and don't worry Duck Lips won't get her way. Oh, good.

One of the girls from the nice (and normal) lesbian couple tries to talk Duck Lips back down from outer space as if Duck Lips were a normal person too. That was nice lesbian couple's first mistake. Dr. Jenn soon reveals that this all went down at 3 a.m. Oh, Jehoshaphat.

Dr. Jenn says in 20 years doing therapy in Beverly Hills of all places she's never seen anyone throw a tantrum like Duck Lips just did. Nor has anyone ever complained about the accommodations in the three seasons they've been doing Couples Therapy. Wow, haha. That's embarrassing. And also, that's it, I officially love Dr. Jenn. Tell us more!

I like how Dr. Jenn often prefaces explanations she's about to give with "and here's why." It makes it sound like she really believes what she's saying is important so listen up. She explains that Duck Lips is stronger than the tool she was last night.

Duck Lips misses the whole point and prattles on some more about the food and the heat. Wow, her boyfriend/fiancé/whatever, really does not like being hot. Hm, maybe that's why he lives in Colorado. That's smart. Duck Lips starts blubbering about how she already lost one loved one to reality T.V. (as we recall, her ex husband committed suicide in 2011 after saying that reality T.V. had pushed him to the limit) and she's not going to lose another! Goodness, I've heard some awful things about reality T.V. but I've never heard of death by a heater set too high.

Dr. Jenn tries to explain to Duck Lips that her career did not kill her husband. I hate to tell her another doctor, Dr. Phil, disagrees. ("Exposing the difficulties of your marriage" led to his death, says the good doc.) I mean, it's Dr. Phil. I think he knows what he's talking about. Dueling media doctors!


This third doctor doesn't know what to make of the lot of them:



Actually that third doctor wasn't on the show at all but I stumbled upon his picture looking for the other one and thought it was funny.

Taylor reluctantly admits that chaos and not being in control are what really is upsetting her. Dr. Jenn says we'll have to address what's going on inside to be able to help her. Dr. Jenn, you are assuming she even has an inside and that is some assumption when it comes to this vortex!

Kelsey, Wu-Tang Clan's ex-prostitute girlfriend, is desperately trying to convince Wu-Tang that not all strippers are the same, but he's not having any of it.  Now if it's so hot, why is Wu-Tang Clan wearing a thick beanie on his head and all those layers, huh?



The best part of all this is Teen Duck Lips sitting over there all by her lonesome, making various shocked and appalled faces. Like she's such an authority on relationships.

If you missed how Teen Duck Lips ended up on this show single, you missed quite a treat. There really isn't time to explain the whole fiasco now, but let's just say it involved a fake boyfriend and how contrived this show is, of course, and it was all exposed in all its glory. Heh, good job, Teen Duck Lips.

Dr. Jenn gets the whole room teary-eyed when she tells Kelsey that no man can define who she is. Kelsey walks out, and when Dr. Jenn shoots him daggers Wu-Tang says nope, he won't follow after her. He's completely sunk into the massive couch and is practically reclined by now so I'm not sure he means he just doesn't want to go after her or he physically can't get up. Or maybe he's just comfy and not too hot. Anyway, the Book of Girlfriend Rules say Go after her, you idiot. I'm pretty sure it's in chapter one if not the preface. There have been no proven exceptions to this rule, ever, in the history of girlfriends. Just a little friendly tip from a lady, Wu-Tang.

Commercials (Why do the Mob Wives look more like somebody straight out of 50 Shades of Grey? Not your mother's mob wives.), and when we get back Wu-Tang is still stuck on the couch stubbornly refusing to go after Kelsey, even with Dr. Jenn giving him an even worse look than before the commercials. Wu-Tang, how many looks do you need before you get it? Another therapist, I guess Dr. Jenn's assistant, chats with Kelsey. What I take away from this conversation is it seems like Kelsey certainly loves Wu-Tang, but isn't getting a lot of respect and trust in return. Well, she has some weird hair going on there but she seems pretty nice. Seems like she could do better.

Teen Duck Lips launches into something or other about how she always changes her schedule to accommodate the guy, which Dr. Jenn calls giving up her power. Teen Duck Lips has powers? God help us. There's nothing wrong with changing your schedule for someone you love as long as he does it once in awhile too. Maybe I'm too simple about relationships, but if you don't like giving up your schedule to accommodate someone....then stop doing that. Problem solved. Next?

The nice lesbian couple is being awfully quiet during all this. I didn't even realize they were here until now. The look on their faces is classic. Basically like, "shiiiiit, and we thought we had issues?"

Duck Lips starts tearfully psychoanalyzing Teen Duck Lips. If that's not the blind leading the blind I don't know what is. Duck Lips says Teen Duck Lips trying to be a writer, restauranteur, make sex tapes, and some other endeavors, means she wants the world to love her.  Well, there's some projection if I ever saw it. Or maybe, Duck Lips, Teen Duck Lips just has a lot of interests: food, sex, the great American novel. Duck Lips says she does not want Teen Duck Lips to end up like her. It is hard to pick a side here, they both have marshmallows for brains. There really is no discernible side.

Dr. Jenn says Teen Duck Lips lives in a bubble and does not connect to people. Cut to the chase, isn't that basically narcissism? Or in Teen Duck Lips's case, a true sociopath. Naturally Farrah is in tearless tears by now. Why does her voice sound like someone cut off her vocal chords whenever she fake cries? It's creepy and rather villainous. I'm not uncaring I swear, I care about everything, she sobs.

Well, I'm glad we had this little talk, Dr. Jenn says, and she cuts them loose to enjoy the rest of their day. Ha.

Commercials, and we're back. Nice pool. God help production though if the water's too warm.

Poor Kelsey, she isn't asking much from Wu-Tang other than love and a solid relationship. She sounds like a great girlfriend who does not make unreasonable demands on her man like say, Farrah would. How can he sit there next to both the Duck Lips and not be appreciative of Kelsey? I don't like him. The lesbians and Teen Duck lips are having lunch with Kelsey outside and the gist of the girl talk is that Kelsey is a good person and Wu-Tang is full of it. Yep, pretty much.

Day Five dawns. Aw, the nice lesbians are rousing in bed, giving each other soft little kisses. I love sleepy little good morning kisses. This couple seems so healthy and normal compared to everyone else in the house. I was raised in a very conservative somewhat intolerant part of the country, but things have changed for me and even for much of the people I grew up with. It's hard to watch a nice couple like this, or say the absolutely heartbreaking documentary Bridegroom, and be able to say with a straight face these couples shouldn't have all the rights and protections that the other much less-likable f-ed up heterosexual couples in the house have. Do put in the effort to watch Bridegroom. It is an emotional ride but worth it.

So where are Jon and Liz you say? We know their flight was delayed due to a domestic terrorist attack at LAX. But it was only delayed by a day, maybe two. Jon alluded before to this gig being a sudden thing. I have a theory that after the fiasco with Farrah's not-a-boyfriend, Jon was who they scrounged up to replace them. Then they decided because Teen Duck Lips and her tearless tears are just so darn entertaining to watch even without not-a-boyfriend, they would keep her on. The show calls the delay "logistical issues" but I like my theory better.

Predictably, Wu-Tang is the type of guy who when he hugs his girl, has to go straight for the ass cheeks and squeeze them. Sigh, I've never met a woman who liked a hug like that. Hello, up here, my face is up here! I mean, at least caress her cheek or kiss her first before making a beeline for the rear.

Teen Duck Lips over breakfast says oh my God of course not I would never do porn, bite your tongues! The lesbians are like, well, that's cool, we're just saying we heard on good authority there is a pornographic film out there.

Ohhhh, you mean the sex tape? Well, yeah, she did that.

The lesbians tell the cameras in a nutshell Teen Duck Lips is a Kim Kardashian wanna-be. Ha, the lesbians so have her number, but are just brilliant at playing all nicey-nice with her. I love them. I know Duck Lips works herself all into a tizzy over the stupid things that come out of Farrah's mouth, but I think the lesbians are having a heck of a lot more fun keeping their cool and just playing along with her.

The housemates find out a new couple is coming in. For what feels like five minutes, which is like five hours in T.V. years, most of them lament how anxious they are about someone new coming into the group. Well, they're coming, so all this is a moot point. But that's reality T.V. for you. Drama.

Jon gives a quick summary of who he is in case you've been blessed not to know about this family, and I swear to God my ears heard him say that the family's show documented their "lies," though I think he more than likely said "lives." Same difference. He admits the household was militant and Kate emasculated him. If by emasculate he means she strung up his balls to the Christmas tree and everyone gathered around and sang Jingle bells, Batman smells, Robin laid an egg, then yes, I guess he was "emasculated."

Jon says he was lonely until he met Liz. I like how they describe what they saw in each other when they first met. Jon was drawn to Liz's honesty. She certainly is bleeping honest, I'll give her that. Bleepedly bleep. I can see how that would be refreshing after being married to The Former Wife, as The Former Wife could very well be a clinical compulsive liar and is now, the very morning this episode aired, even making her own kids tell her lies. Liz liked how happy and genuine Jon is. They show a never before seen recent photo of all the kids with Liz and her three really cute blondie children. They look like they're in a park and they have bags like maybe they were on a Easter egg or peanut hunt, or perhaps collecting candy at a parade. Half the kids are sticking their tongues out playfully and everyone else is happy and smiling. The photo is strangely sad in that it shows that all eight do have such lovely normal moments with their dad and the woman in his life, but Kate can't just let it go and let them be when they are with him. This is exactly what we mean by the lies. TFW and her sheeple try to paint a picture of how terribly detrimental it is at Jon's, so bad why the twins are practically estranged from him. The photos show otherwise: happy and relaxed children who seem to get along just fine with Liz and her children and certainly their beloved father. I should be happy to see kids happy. Yet, I feel sad because until the parental alienation stops from both Kate and everyone left who supports her, they will not be free to love their father as they have a right to be able to.

Jon says he wants to move past the way he typically handles problems: passive aggressiveness. Well, that's a start, wanting to change.

Farrah is kind of giddy to meet Jon. She immediately recognizes him. People that want to be celebrities so badly themselves usually are pretty goofy around other celebs.  She and Kelsey scurry off to confer. Kelsey slowly remembers who he is. "Was he, like, the good person in the relationship?" Farrah asks. Well, Teen Duck Lips is not as dumb as we thought after all. Yes, Teen Duck Lips, he was the good one in the relationship. Which means Kate would be the bad one. We'll try to keep it simple for you.

Wu-Tang is basically like hell, I know that dude, and shh&&&t, he was going through some big sh&&t there. Yes, that is also true. Even Duck Lips admits Jon has really been through it, which surprises me in light of her issues with her husband really hating reality T.V. and she in turn hating him. But then she snootily remarks that she doesn't like their choice of rather frumpy hoodies and torn jeans to wear. I doubt she listened or cared if anyone told her about the terrorist attack and that they just spent the past two days in airports. It should be noted that it is was also late at night when they arrived; everyone is gathered by the outdoor fire, winding down for the night. I'm sorry for Duck Lips they did not drag out the cummerbund and panty hose for her. Is at least the temperature more to her liking now?


I know some folks weren't crazy about their outfits, and I don't claim myself to feel any desire to run out to the store to get my own knockoffs, but the fact is "frumpy" really is the style a lot of celebs are dressing in now. You can see the same exact style in countless recent pap photos of A-listers wearing ripped jeans and hoodies or other baggy tops, including January Jones and Rihanna, whose outfits in their respective pap photos look almost identical to Liz's, and even Gwyneth Paltrow, the Goopster herself, who apparently loves to wear her ripped jeans when she gets the hankering for strawberries. To prove my point, you know something has gone Hollywood A-lister when suddenly the price makes no sense whatsoever. Elliott Boyfriend Jean in Super Love Destroyed, the ones all the celebs are wearing, will set you back $229! For ripped jeans. Insane.

Anyway, Liz and Jon meet the rest of the cast, and everyone is more or less friendly. Except Duck Lips, who is obviously livid that she the world-famous and revered Duck Lips has to actually share a little screen time with such a D-lister. Heh. Jon remarks in an amiable tone he remembers meeting Duck Lips at some event awhile back. Mel said it best about this one, "Taylor was snooty in response. Like, omg, if we were at the same event it was a fluke....I am sooo much better than you scum types." Ha, exactly. The funniest thing is the event was "Night of a Million Reality Stars." Which from the name alone sounds like one of those L.A. autograph trade shows for has-beens and other D-lister mediocre types like Ted McGinley. Nothing wrong with that, but it's funny that Duck Lips, big as her head is, lowered herself to show up at something like that.

The lesbians watched the show and felt for Jon, which is exactly the reaction I would expect from good women like these two. They like Aaden (who doesn't?), and Jon and Liz just light up. Jon calls him "Chicken Little," and beams with pride. Aw, cute.

Jon says he and Kate are not civil because, well, Kate is suing him. Liz snickers, along with the rest of America. Liz also says she, Liz, needs therapy, which is good to hear. Truly, half of therapy is accepting you need therapy. Liz says she has to be the tough guy in the relationship. She also says it's hard to talk about herself. Jon was right, she is very different from Kate. Liz sort of reminds me of a young Jodi Foster, kinda rough around the edges. Similar voice and mannerisms too.



The house Duck Lips said was too small, Jon is overwhelmed by. It's huge. He says he could fit his whole family in the bedroom alone. Funny how two people from similar T.V. backgrounds could view the same thing so differently.

Liz and Jon get something quick to eat and talk about how Kate judges Jon and that he can't win. She never likes anyone he is with, which pretty much says it all. If I could play Dr. Jenn for a moment, it is not the women that bother Kate--it's Jon being happy, and that is pretty sociopathic. Liz said she tried to be open minded when meeting Kate but that didn't last long. Heh, you mean when you tweeted she rolled her car window up in your face? However Liz also says Jon plays victim about the situation, which is a fair comment.

They head straight into therapy with Dr. Jenn. Well, they wasted no time here. They first met when Jon noticed Liz in a parking lot and later picked her up at the bar. Romantic. Liz thought this was going to be some kind of one-night stand thing, but instead Jon just wanted to be held. Oh, sheesh, that's sad.

Liz said she didn't expect "Jon Gosselin" to be on her couch that night, and Jon gets all strung out because he hates when she calls him that. I'm with Liz on this one, she's just saying it was a little surreal to have a persona you've seen on T.V. suddenly be in your real life. Her initial reaction is a normal one, like how you might be taken aback if you actually saw Santa Claus come down your chimney and eat the cookies you left out you were planning to eat yourself. I see what she means about Jon playing victim, he is sort of being a big baby about some fair points she is making, but Dr. Jenn says she is diminishing his feelings and needs more compassion. I guess, but Jon throwing a fit about her being a little thrown off by a celebrity on her couch is pretty silly.

Jon is haunted by Kate and his past, he says. Normally I would say this is a little dramatic, but when you consider this .... globule.... is his ex:



 it's actually quite understandable. God, can you imagine being haunted by Kate Gosselin? And what sort of medium or ghost hunter would you call who would be willing to get rid of it?

Jon wants to get married, Liz does not because she's concerned that she's interchangeable to Jon. Jon shakes his head in disbelief saying that's just nonsense.

Well, after all that heaviness, coming up next the lesbians are googling Teen Duck Lips and are horrified. Yes!

We're back, and Teen Duck Lips is really looking forward to tomorrow so she can wake up and do her hair. And that is why Teen Duck Lips is such fun to watch. Hey, is anyone else missing Debra right about now? If you watched Farrah's show you know who I'm talking about. Why couldn't she come in and be Farrah's other half? Those two have enough issues to keep Dr. Jenn busy until retirement.

The lesbians are having a pow-wow and decide that Teen Duck Lips is lying about her sex tape because they've heard it was not just some random accidental sex tape but a heavily produced and planned pornography film put together by a camera crew. Ha, they're like let's Google it and decide for ourselves! This gives a whole new meaning to Google is your friend. It will even help you clarify what's porn and what's not, it's that awesome of a friendship. Do folks like Farrah honestly think, when they spout off all these lies, that no one knows how to use a computer? The lesbians find it, and they watch it. And they're horrified, of course. Their conclusion: Oh, full-on porn star, for sure. Baw-haha!

Coming up next week, the lesbians call out Teen Duck Lips on her heavily produced pornographic film. I don't know what this has to do with couples therapy and growing as a couple but this showdown sure looks great. In other news, Jon is still playing victim and Liz calls him a pussy for it.

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Virginia Pen Mom said...

God, can you imagine being haunted by Kate Gosselin? And what sort of medium or ghost hunter would you call who would be willing to get rid of it?

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An exorcist.

localyocul said...

Actually I have walked in Jon's shoes. My ex's wife alienated my 13 year old daughter from me 4 years ago. My daughter blamed me for crappy things she and my ex did. I fought tooth and nail to allow her to even go to track practice because they refused to take her. In response they sued me for full custody. He is a lawyer so he paid nothing. I went deep into debt as he put me through the stress of a trial only to have the judge keep things status quo with more specifics so that the ex and his wife could not play games with the order anymore. I still owe family for money they contributed. This past weekend my daughter was supposed to have a fun day with her dad and the wife as usual ruined it for them. My now 17 year old came home and cried and cried and said "I don't know how I ever blamed you for her she is such a &*#$(. My daughter appreciates that instead of bashing them I stood up for and fought for her and she knows that I would do anything for her best interest.

chefsummer said...

Long Time Reader- Rare poster said... 99

Exactly what child feels sorry about their parent hurting for a divorce?? That's not normal.


TLC stinks said... 102

I'm pretty sure that Kate directed her "feelings" of the divorce on to the kids she discuss how she was feeling and how it affected her cause. Kate has on boundaries when it comes to discussing adult things with her minor children.

Formerly Duped said...

Thanks for the recap, Admin, because there is no way I would watch this garbage.

Not sure Jon is doing the right thing being on the show, but if the money benefits his kids, great. I don't see this type of show benefiting anyone as in real therapy.


With regard to the previous thread, I would caution people NOT to send Robert any money. We do not know enough about the truth of his intentions and so far he has not lived up to his promises. I'm sorry if he has been ill and for the legal complications, but hopefully he will get the book out on his own. The first edition was horrifying, and I would probably only read new excepts. We know about the abuse and why rehash it. The book only had a slight public effect IMO- I think most people following the saga knew it all along, although disgusted by the details of abuse and greed.

Paula said...

Thanks for the recaps Admin. I don't intend to watch the show - not my cup of tea. Waiting for Scandal to return - LOL. However, if the pay check allowed Jon to move closer to his kids - more power to him.

localyocul said...

Why does her voice sound like someone cut off her vocal chords whenever she fake cries?

(((((((

I noticed that too LOL! Great recap!

Remona Blue said...

Formerly Duped said... 4
''....With regard to the previous thread, I would caution people NOT to send Robert any money.....''
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I agree that we shouldn't send money to Robert because of the request on this blog, but NOT for your reasons.

My reason is that I don't believe that Robert asked anyone to come here and ask for money. Period. IF he wanted to take donations he would say so on HIS blogs. IF he were to post here, he would use his name.

chefsummer said...

Why does her voice sound like someone cut off her vocal chords whenever she fake cries?
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LOL it was like she can't breath and cry at the same time, And it was sooo obvious that she was faking at trying to cry.

Anonymous said...

Hilarious. If anyone has a twitter account they should give Andy Cohen a link to read this. He has made his opinion of kate very public on twitter, which is refreshing that a celeb who has met her finally has the balls to say she sucks. Anyway, I'm sure he would enjoy this recap. Also, did anyone see the photo on a tweet with Andy's head superimposed on Collin's body when kate was smacking him in the parking lot. Funny. Yeah, many have Kate's number at this point. I say she shuts this manic campaign to get back on tv down. Ain't gonna happen.

Stella

tell me why? said...

I don't understand.... Andy Cohen and Chelsea Handler skewered Kate last night. As well as 50 other notable personalities over the last week. Where is Anonymous? Where is the announcement from BV about an impending 'OP" and 'DOX'? These people bullied Kate. Publicly. Very publicly. Where is the national call to action to boycott those shows? These insults can and will result in Kate not being able to get more jobs on reality tv. Her kids can easily see it. It's damaging. Where are the lawsuits?

Can anyone, a sheeple, BV or Kate herself, step up and explain why (in their minds) anonymous bloggers and only anonymous bloggers are responsible for the downfall of Kate's "career," her inability to get and keep a job and the ruination of her reputation? Why are only private citizens harrassed, outed, threatened and hunted down like dogs, when Andy, Chelsea, Anderson and the like get a free pass? How about the 200 links on Robert's webpage to negative articles? None of those folks caused Kate to have a bad rep? If Kate was invited on one of those shows tonight, she'd show up with bells on, kiss their butts and pretend none of their searing insults ever happened. This makes no sense whatsoever. Her behavior is the exact definition of bullying, although Kate says she is against bullying. What gives?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Can anyone, a sheeple, BV or Kate herself, step up and explain why (in their minds) anonymous bloggers and only anonymous bloggers are responsible for the downfall of Kate's "career," her inability to get and keep a job and the ruination of her reputation? Why are only private citizens harrassed, outed, threatened and hunted down like dogs, when Andy, Chelsea, Anderson and the like get a free pass?


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Exactly. And arguably, what people like Andy Cohen say is worse for her. You have to seek out this blog to find out what we're saying. No one usually stumbles across it without looking for info on the Gosselins. And as intelligent as this group is we're just layman, it's not like what we say is paid attention to any more than anyone else with their head on straight commenting on the internet. A good comment sure, but nothing more.

Andy Cohen's show on the other hand is watched by a wide variety of people, many of whom aren't looking for info on the Gosselins. He reaches a much wider, diverse audience. And he is an authority on reality T.V., working in the business and developing a reputation as sort of a pop culture expert. When he says something, MILLIONS hear it and MILLIONS put a lot of weight in it. When he says something, it is "important."

But that's not bullying?

Children First said...

My reason is that I don't believe that Robert asked anyone to come here and ask for money. Period. IF he wanted to take donations he would say so on HIS blogs. IF he were to post here, he would use his name.

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I was a bit surprised by that, too. Is the person who asked for donations a spokesperson for Robert? He's never mentioned it on his blog, and I'm a bit confused about his/her relationship to Robert.

localyocul said...

I wonder if the View will address the situation since the Today show went viral AFTER they taped on Friday?

swimgirl said...

Last night, Andy Cohen named TFW as his mazel of the day in the spirit of MLK day. He said he will say three nice things about her. One, was the head looks good and two was the extensions look good. Then he said that was three right? And they all laughed!

LaLaLandNoMore said...

It sounds like Jon needs to get "mad" and stay mad for a while. He has been treated horribly and no wonder he is haunted by TFW. She is in control of his 8 children. He probably is depressed, really, and does need counseling. Maybe he doesn't need to be on television, but he does need counseling to recover from the events in his past and help in handling his current situation.

We have and are living with parental alienation and it is horrible. TFW will never change, but Jon can change. Best wishes to him.

Remona Blue said...

Children First said... 12
''I was a bit surprised by that, too. Is the person who asked for donations a spokesperson for Robert? He's never mentioned it on his blog, and I'm a bit confused about his/her relationship to Robert.''
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There is a person that twitters on WOS twitter timeline that uses the name of the person that posted the donation request. In MY opinion, I think that whoever posted the donation request used that persons name....but I don't really think that person was the one making the donation request.

In other words, I think it was someone using someone else's name to make Robert look bad.

IF Robert makes a donation request on HIS blog, I would be happy to donate. Otherwise...no way!

Children First said...

Exactly. And arguably, what people like Andy Cohen say is worse for her. You have to seek out this blog to find out what we're saying. No one usually stumbles across it without looking for info on the Gosselins. And as intelligent as this group is we're just layman, it's not like what we say is paid attention to any more than anyone else with their head on straight commenting on the internet. A good comment sure, but nothing more.

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Yes, and someone commented on this on one of the previous threads. With all of the negative comments surfacing, not only on Kate's TL, but on various networks, why isn't Kate and her minions going after these people for bullying and harassment? I imagine when it was the anonymous posters, they were easy targets, easy to intimidate. The networks and tabloids, however, are bigger fish and it would take a legion to try to sue all of them.

Dmasy said...

When I stop laughing, I will comment on this insightful re-cap!

JoyinVirginia said...

Thank you admin!!!!!!!! What a hilarious recap! Tho I do think calling Taylor Duck Lips is insulting to ducks.
you would need the Ghost Hunters crew plus John Edward and that medium from that creepy movie The Conjuring to even begin to exorcise TFMJG, the Globule! So funny!
Hey, maybe CT therapy has given Jon the backbone to speak up! Maybe Dr Jen really did some good! Let's keep watching and see!

sparkle said...

Remona Blue said... 14

There is a person that twitters on WOS twitter timeline that uses the name of the person that posted the donation request. In MY opinion, I think that whoever posted the donation request used that persons name....but I don't really think that person was the one making the donation request.

In other words, I think it was someone using someone else's name to make Robert look bad.

IF Robert makes a donation request on HIS blog, I would be happy to donate. Otherwise...no way!
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ITA. This is the work of sheeple, I can smell the barnyard a mile away.

It was a huge blow to them when Robert stated that Kate tried to $ettle with him, but he declined. Kate copyrighted her journal and tried to buy Robert off, but it's still just a book of lies, right? It would be a lot easier if they would just accept the fact that Kate is a swindler, a grifter and a child and animal abusing cretin. What has she done to prove that she IS NOT? On the contrary, she's done everything to hide the truth and bury it.

It's crumbling, the whole facade and imaginary Gosselin world the sheep created and inserted themselves in. When they feel backed against a wall, that's when they resort to playing dirty tricks.

I do agree with one part of the post. This is the perfect time for the book to come out, now that the kid gloves are off. Pimp Mama Kate has finally crossed the line from the protective buffer zone she's enjoyed all these years.

The Empress Was Stripped Bare-Nekkid said...

Great recap, Admin. Hilarious, shade in all the right places, and you really know how to "read." Hey, if you're ever looking for another blogging gig, bet you could be a writer for RealityTea! :)

Children First said...

There is a person that twitters on WOS twitter timeline that uses the name of the person that posted the donation request. In MY opinion, I think that whoever posted the donation request used that persons name....but I don't really think that person was the one making the donation request.

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It appears to have been the same person. The Twitter regular tweeted a rather nasty comment (s) on Twitter to someone here...after the person here referenced a question about the blogger's donation request.

Layla said...

I think TFW effectively buried any hopes of a reality show this past week. That was all just so ugly! TLC made money off the Gs when they were likable. Then, after people saw TFW for her true self, they watched for the cute kids. Now TFW has been unmasked as a manipulative monster, and the cute kids are not so cute. Cara looked like she'd rather be anywhere but on TV and Mady was either overdoing it or parroting what TFW was--very obviously--signaling her to say. Or both were mute. TFW is known in the industry for being difficult. It looks like the girls might be difficult to work with, too, between the moodiness and the obvious interference by their mother. And of course, any show that included them would have to include the much-despised TFW. One thing to remember about show business is that difficult people don't get the work. There are too many others with just as much talent (or none, in this case), but easy to work with, waiting in the wings.

If Growing Up Gosselin is supposed to be a continuation of K+8, well, who wants to continue a show that already failed? If it's supposed to be some lifestyle thing like the Kardashians, then it's already being done. Besides, who cares about the lifestyles of a couple kids in Wernersville, PA? The Kardashians have the mansions, clothes, flashy cars, famous friends--the big LA lifestyle. The Gs will never have that.

AuntieAnn said...

Funny recap Admin. Now I have an idea of what this show is all about. Apparently someone who can, decided Canadians are too sensitive to watch this stuff. Anyway Teen Duck Lips, and I assume you're talking about the lips on her face, sounds like a real tool. Big Duck Lips is hopeless.

Sheri said...

From the previous thread...

Gabby2 said... (169)

Ex Nurse said... 91

I just watched the segment, and I disagree with the poster who does not think the girls have "it".

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"Obviously, you are a fan. Do you personally know milo?"

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Obviously? So if someone compliments one of the twins then they are obviously a fan of Kate's? Interesting logic.

Just because someone makes a comment that others disagree with does not make them a fan and it's insulting to imply it.

I happen to agree with Ex Nurse about Mady's performance on the View. To a casual viewer unfamiliar with the back story, Mady may very well have come across as spunky and witty.

She verbally put Kate in her place and though I would never condone my own children to speak to me that way, as far as I'm concerned, Kate doesn't deserve the respect of her children. She certainly doesn't respect them.

It's sad but it is what it is and it's all Kate's doing.

In any case I just wish people wouldn't be so quick to call other posters fans or sheep just because they have a differing opinion.

Oh, btw, great recap Admin. I won't watch that dredge but I thoroughly enjoyed reading your take on it. Duck Lips and Teen Duck Lips...hehehehe.

Montréalaise said...

If I could just go back to the twins' appearance on The View here - even if the girls do want another reality show (which may or may not be the case) what kind of values is Kate teaching them? That they will get whatever they want, just because they want it? I know Kate loves the lifestyle the show gave her, but most people achieve what they do through a combination of talent and hard work. We know Kate has no talent at all and she's allergic to hard work. The reality show was just pure dumb luck - like winning a lottery. What kind of role model is she for her kids, and what kind of unrealistic expectations is she putting into their heads?

Hoosier Girl said...

I'd forgotten how much I love your recaps Admin. Hilarious! Your wit runs the gamut ... sly and dry to sharp and scathing. Love that!

I want Dr. Jen to tell Jon that he needs to take two years and not date.

The man has no idea who he is, and he's never going to figure that out until he spends some time with himself. Alone.

He seems to glom onto these women and mold himself to match their style and substance. That allows him no time to figure out - Who is Jon!?! What are his likes/dislikes? What are his needs? What are his bottom lines? What's important to Jon?

These people who can't be alone with themselves and/or 'need' to be in a relationship just frustrate me! My best friend is one.

I love her to pieces, she's caring, pretty, intelligent - all the good things - but she has no identity or interests outside of whatever guy she's dating at the moment.

I know some people see Jon as one big walking contradiction, and that's honestly how I see my friend sometimes.

When you don't have your own identity and KNOW who you are and what's important to YOU - you take on other people's thoughts/ideas - until the next person comes along - and then you take on their thoughts and ideas ... and on and on ...

My friend has gone from bar hopping bouncer chick to domesticated gardener to NASCAR queen to elite snob to (well you get the idea) and it's not just her demeanor and hobbies that change. She'll change her stance on social issues to match whoever she's dating!

It used to drive me crazy, but I've realized as crazy as it makes me, I can't imagine what it's like to be her. I couldn't live my life like that.

Needless to say - my advice to her goes unheeded - and I'm sure Jon won't heed it either - but it was nice to get off my chest!!

Thanks for listening :-)

Localyocul said...

@MKSandAssocInc: @radar_online ROL is a joke. Why anyone considers reliable news source is beyond us... Not dignifying w/response. #teamGosselinkids

lukebandit said...

There may be a solution for Robert raising the money to publish the book and we could help and it wouldn't cost us a dime. He could go to
GO FUND ME and he could explain his story (medical expenses and fighting off kate's lawyers) and have a money goal of what he needs to get this book published.

We could forward the request to our friends and their friends and it could go viral!

Those from here could donate to a reputable place to raise money.

I believe he would raise the money really quick and now is the time to do it, especially if she has to go to court for violating the court order.

Strike while the iron is hot Robert!

Turtle Logic said...

Admin-I would be very interested in hearing more from your source. I was wondering how and why TFW was able to pull the twins out of school on Thursday and take them out of the state without notifying Jon beforehand. It also left her other 6 kids without a custodial parent for the day. Yes, the tups were at school, but in case of injury or illness she is supposed to be the primary emergency contact on her custody days. Of course Jon was nearby, but it was Kate's custody time unless they had made other arrangements. Jon stated before there had been problems with being called to pick up sick kids when Kate wasn't around even though it was her custodial time.

Over And Out said...

For what it's worth, Lillian Glass has a new blog post up about the girls on The View.

AuntieAnn said...

... even Gwyneth Paltrow, the Goopster herself, who apparently loves to wear her ripped jeans when she gets the hankering for strawberries.

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I guess I just don't know fashion. I wore those same clothes to paint the kitchen.

Mel said...

Good job, Admin! One of your best. I can't stop laughing. Duck Lips/Teen Duck Lips...good one.

I don't think Jon is doing the twins any favors allowing TFW to keep them from him.
He may think he's being Mr. Nice Guy saying, well, if they don't want to see me, they don't have to.

But in the case of a parental alienator like TFW I think this is the wrong stance to take. He should insist that the custody order be followed.

The twins can just suck it up and deal with the fact that they have sextuplet siblings. They're being pretty prima dona, imo, thinking that they don't have to deal with the sextuplets or their dad if they don't want to. Maybe not both twins, but one of them anyway.

This is the trouble with divorce-it gives the children options that they shouldn't have. As in, if they don't like what one parent is doing they can always threaten to go live with the other parent.

In a marriage, the kids don't have the choice of saying, oh, I'm going to go live with xxxx. There isn't that option. They gotta deal with the parents they have.

I think Jon should insist that the twins have face time with him. How else you gonna build a relationship???

If he was abusing them, that would be one thing, but he's not (that we know about). Spending time as a sibling group isn't abuse. Nor is spending time with the dad's long time girlfriend abuse.

Couldn't Jon claim it's abuse that way they have to spend time with TFW and Steve? Or it's abuse the way that TFW is home as little as possible? That the kids are routinely left with (non-long term) nannies? Or that they have a 52 point chore chart daily? Etc., etc.

Upstater said...

Admin - great recap. I watched it online but I fast forwarded thru all except Jon and Liz's part.

As for Andy Cohen, I DVR his show every night. He treats his guests with respect. Very very few are total drags like TFW (and she was, in all honesty, the most awkward guest I've ever seen on that show.) I've never heard him say anything negative about any guests after they have been on his show publicity (except Jillian Michaels, who he said yelled at his staff - but even then he never gave her the jackhole award). So, yes, I would take his opinion very seriously.........

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

OT but interesting...made me chuckle. Dr. Glass tweeted to Kate and used a photo of herself as her avatar. Her head is titled just the the twins tilt their heads. Hmmmmm We need a body language expert to explain this phenomenon.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/gosselin-twins-body-language-on-view-shows-theyre-intimidated-by-controlling-kate-and-not-ready-for-tv/

Dr. Glass weighs in once more!

Kirkland said...

I'm curious about the fact that Kate has copyrighted her journals. Does that mean Robert can't release his book without having to deal with the copyright? Can Kate now sue for a different reason if the book is released?

And why is nobody addressing the fact that by Kate copyrighting the journals, she's basically saying the journals are true? Where is the media in all this?

lukebandit said...

I missed the first 20 25 minutes of the View and boy, Bawa is tooooo old to wear those leopard fur boots! They had a very nice lady on that saved a school from being shot by a young man. She was incredible stopping him from coming in and it took about 2 hours but she convinced him to put down the AK-47 and give himself up!

Wow, Babs looked bad introducing that segment with her glasses on. Also, the picture of TFW and the girls sitting on the Today Show and TFW is looking at Savannah with her hands. Look at her neck! It looks horrible!

Hope it is very very true about TFW being under court orders not to put the kids on tv. She will have to go to court to answer why she did it. Well, uhmm judge....uh..huh...I, uh, need to uh, mommy needs....new..uhmm....shoes.

Don't pay attention to the shoes filled to capacity and overflowing in my bulging closet. TFW's lawyers chime in and say...Your honor, that is irrelevant, I motion to strike from the record.

BANG, as the gavel hits the desk. One more outburst from you TFW and I will hold you in contempt of court.

What a dream!

TJ said...

Where can I see Chelsea Handler skewer TFW....does anyone have a link...I`m in Canada

OrangeCrusher1 said...

And I am another one who is sincerely hoping that TFW has breached something legal in their custody agreement by taking the girls out of state to be exposed to the talk show circuit. If true, then I hope she gets her fingers slapped, if not more, by the courts. AND I hope it is made public. She deserves no less.

Well, it's Tuesday. Her two week "15 Minutes" of magazine cover, and TV talk shows is over. What can she possibly be doing now?

TLC stinks said...

Just because Mady is the more talkative of the twins does not make her talented or have "it". She offered nothing other than parroting her mother. She is and was a smarty mouth and her mother has made it worse.

silimom said...

Localyocul, your daughter is blessed to have you.

We don't know what goes on in the Gosselin households and as Mady said, what people are saying isn't wrong but it isn't the whole picture. Ultimately, we can only speculate as to why the twins don't see their dad more regularly. Is it upsetting? Of course. But I do know something. As our children grow up, they begin to see us not just as parents but as humans beings, flaws and all. They start reflecting on their impression of their parents compared to the reality of the individual they are now seeing.

The Gosselin children will someday see their parents as human beings and will decide for themselves if that person's talk over the years lines up with their walk. Amidst all the mistakes I think Jon makes, I think he is playing it right by not forcing the twins to spend time with him right now. As long as he keeps reassuring them that he loves them, is there for them, and initiates contact through texting or at the bus stop, they will come back around, despite Kate's machinations. As Localyocal's daughter did, they will realize who is toxic in their life and how to deal with that. I realize narcissists and parental alienators are a breed unto themselves - I have known a few - I have faith in the kids.

Formerly Duped said...

If Mady wants to be a singer, shouldn't she be training for that rather than reality TV? As I understand it, she was only in one play so far- remember the 'family' party TFW gave her- mediocre! Maybe she's been in more and takes vocal lessons, idk, but TFW hasn't tweeted about it. I think TFW wants to leap back into TV with no training etc for herself and/or the kids. When that talent agency owner suggested drama classes, she loftily said they had no time for that.

Jane said...

Remona Blue said... 14

There is a person that twitters on WOS twitter timeline that uses the name of the person that posted the donation request. In MY opinion, I think that whoever posted the donation request used that persons name....but I don't really think that person was the one making the donation request.

In other words, I think it was someone using someone else's name to make Robert look bad.
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The person who posted the appeal for Robert used the same name here as she does on Twitter. Under that name, on Twitter, she also made same appeal. I follow the Twitter stuff and can say she's been Team Jon always. I have no way of knowing if Robert asked her to do this or if she's doing it on her own -my sense is that she strongly wants the book to come out is has simply made a suggestion on one way to expedite its publication.

Localyocul said...

I hope Shoka is inside! It's brutal!

Blowing In The Wind said...

I missed the first 20 25 minutes of the View and boy, Bawa is tooooo old to wear those leopard fur boots!

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I think that leopard boots is the least of that woman's issues!

Blowing In The Wind said...

I've never read anything by Glass, but it would seem that she is in dire need of a proofreader. I don't know when I have read anything as poorly written as that. In comparison, it makes Kate's blogs look like they are professionally written..

"Cara is uncomfortable as she tells how she wipers the counters and lunoads the dishwasher and admits how her sister does do some chores. Mady is angry as you can see my her clenched fists on her lap. Cara, her hand never leaving her arm for self comfort clearly does not want to be talking, as she looks down when she speaks with her head cocked to the side."

It's good to know that her hand never leaves her arm. Having a disembodied hand flopping around on a sofa really wouldn't be such a good thing, unless it landed on Kate's mouth and silenced her.

sparkle said...

Localyocul said... 28
@MKSandAssocInc: @radar_online ROL is a joke. Why anyone considers reliable news source is beyond us... Not dignifying w/response. #teamGosselinkids
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Ha! After all, Radar is the oh so credible news source who said they verified the authenticity of Hailey's texts. Texts that turned out to be fake and caused Kate to drop her lawsuit. Verizon was not even Jon's cell carrier during the time frame in question.

Lukebandit, the GoFundme is a great idea! A good way to reach many more people. Robert getting this book out while the iron is hot is a much more worthwhile endeavor than begging people to pay for your foreign adoption. Or pay off your credit cards. Or for plastic surgery. Those are some of the ridiculous things I've seen people beg for, it's totally absurd. Robert's project has a purpose and a means to an end.

Carole said...

I do hope I'm not too annoying with all the copying/pasting I do.

I think most people here appreciate C/P (heck it saves us time searching for it ourselves lol); just be sure to include the URL for the source.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

my sense is that she strongly wants the book to come out is has simply made a suggestion on one way to expedite its publication.
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She needs to refine her approach. LOL

Ex Nurse said...

Thanks Sheri! It is very sad to hear posters here call the twins bratty, etc. I agree 100% that the twins are probably telling each parent what they want to hear, and that is why J&K aware convinced that the other is lying about what the kids want. I am pretty convinced that the twins authentically answered the question about a show without the tups. Even Cara smiled and nodded at the question for their own reasons. It is beyond sad that they think that they need to work at all, or that reality TV is an actual career path. Both parents are to blame for that, with Kate constantly begging for a new show and Jon actually participating in one. If it is true that Jon was able to buy a house with his CT paycheck and related media appearances and articles, then why wouldn't they see this as a valid career goal. Sadly, a reality show will do nothing to train Mady in the art of acting. Just look at their mother.

Millicent said...

Hoosier Girl said... 27
I'd forgotten how much I love your recaps Admin. Hilarious! Your wit runs the gamut ... sly and dry to sharp and scathing. Love that!

I want Dr. Jen to tell Jon that he needs to take two years and not date. The man has no idea who he is, and he's never going to figure that out until he spends some time with himself. Alone.
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I'd be happy if he even took a solid six months off (should he and Liz' relationship not work out), but I doubt he'd be able to do so. I have a dear friend who is similar in that respect to Jon. She is now in a long-standing marriage that has its ups and downs, but before that, she went through a string of boyfriends. When the relationships would break up, she just could not be by herself. She was unable to even for one night, sit at home and just be on her own.

That's how I see Jon. Not someone who is happy or comfortable just being on his own, even for a little while.

sparkle said...

Mel said... 33
Good job, Admin! One of your best. I can't stop laughing. Duck Lips/Teen Duck Lips...good one.
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Google some recent pictures of Farrah. She has had her lips done to look just like Kim Kardashian, esp. the bottom one. It is said that Farrah idolizes her and thinks she will be the next Kim. The resemblence is scary.

Marie said...

Neither one of the twins have "it". As TFW said, they are just regular teenagers. I know I wouldn't care to watch a reality show about regular kids living in PA. It has no appeal to me.

Marie

Formerly Duped said...

Blowing In The Wind said... 47
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I thought the same. There were several errors or typos. Also, she was saying Mady should not badmouth other performers, which I agree with, but then spelled Niall of 1 D as "Nile" I got a laugh out of the piece, though.Some of her comments were true but I think she was reaching a bit in some of her observations.

Blowing In The Wind said...

OT but interesting...made me chuckle. Dr. Glass tweeted to Kate and used a photo of herself as her avatar. Her head is titled just the the twins tilt their heads. Hmmmmm We need a body language expert to explain this phenomenon.

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Maybe it's supposed to prevent (in the case of younger people) or conceal (as in the case of Kate and Dr. Glass) a turkey neck...stretching and positioning the neck in different ways!

She is a Cow said...

Admin, great recap!

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but Duck Lips (Taylor) was also trying to sell a "wellness" cruise last year. Needless to say it was cancelled, due to lack of crazy people willing to line her pockets!

Carole said...

New blog by Dr. Lillian Glass on body language on The View yesterday.

Gosselin Twins Body Language on View Shows They’re Intimidated By Controlling Kate and Not Ready for TV

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/gosselin-twins-body-language-on-view-shows-theyre-intimidated-by-controlling-kate-and-not-ready-for-tv/

AuntieAnn said...

Blowing In The Wind said... 47

I've never read anything by Glass, but it would seem that she is in dire need of a proofreader.

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I totally agree. I think "Whoppi" would, too.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

As always Dr. Glass does an interestng job deciphering body language. The only person less relaxed on that couch besides Cara is clearly TFW. From her summation:

After observing these two and the dynamic with their mother, I personally don’t think they should be on television as they have nothing whatsoever to offer- no charisma and no talent. They are simply fraternal twin sisters who have 6 brothers and sisters as a result of theit mother taking fertility drugs. While it was indeed cute to see the babies and young kids grow up on TV, truth be told, they are not so cute anymore.
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Which is pretty much what many of us are saying. Who wants to watch this? Who is going to tune in to see Kate drag things out of the mouths of teens on an "unscripted" reality show? She who has such a kind a nd gentle way about her. Mady clearly resents her younger sibs, Cara clearly does not want to be in front of a camera. Taking this farther is sheer nonsense.

Formerly Duped said...

I did not see the interview but only what The View site posted. Did the twins say they wanted a reality show without the tups?? I just heard them be asked if they want a show period.The logistics of a twins- only show would be difficult. What about school?

chefsummer said...

Ex Nurse said... 51
I agree 100% that the twins are probably telling each parent what they want to hear.
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I was thinking this,

I mean what's the best way to make your parent STFU agree with them.

Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said...

What if, out of all those kids, Cara is the only one who is aware of the fact people are outraged about her family? What if she 'gets it' and wants to hang her head in shame? Maybe the kids at school are mean and jealous about the fact she is going to NYC to be on The Today Show the The View. Come on, 13 year old girls can be ruthless towards one another. I think Cara knows how much her mother is despised and she is embarassed about it. I know I would be at that age. Mady is too self-centered to give a crap and has grown up hearing her mother tell them that people are just jealous of them (her). Well if that doesn't generate arrogance and cockiness, I don't know what does. Wait until we see the 6 on TV giving telling us they haven't been harmed by reality TV. You will surely see some of them being cocky and know-it-allish like their older sister.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Ha! After all, Radar is the oh so credible news source who said they verified the authenticity of Hailey's texts. Texts that turned out to be fake and caused Kate to drop her lawsuit. Verizon was not even Jon's cell carrier during the time frame in question.

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I can't figure out why ROL isn't sued -- so many potentially libelous reports are put out there. Of course, maybe there are lawsuits in the works but it's not being announced! Then, too, it could be that nobody really bothers with them because they're such a laughingstock and small potatoes.

Millicent said...

Sillimom said:
Amidst all the mistakes I think Jon makes, I think he is playing it right by not forcing the twins to spend time with him right now. As long as he keeps reassuring them that he loves them, is there for them, and initiates contact through texting or at the bus stop, they will come back around, despite Kate's machinations.
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Very wise words and I agree. As the children all reach adulthood and have the benefit of hindsight, I feel fairly confident all of them will realize which parent loved them unconditionally and tried his best, versus which parent made their lives miserable with her machinations. As long as Jon keeps the lines of communication open, lets all of his children know they can reach out to him at any time and he'll be there for them, he's giving them that safety net that's so critically important.

Daria said...

Paula said... 100
"Man Up" is a derogatory term. You have no idea what he has/has not done behind the scenes to keep Kate "in check". Unless you have some information that the rest of us do not. Yes, he's telling it to the media because that's the only way to fight Kate at this point. Nothing else has worked. What's the saying.."...unless you have walked in my shoes.."?
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The only way to fight Kate is through the media? That makes no sense. If she is keeping him from seeing his children according to the custody schedule, complaining about it on Inside Edition is not going to change that. Child custody matters are fought in court, not on television. I don't happen to think that Jon is being completely truthful in his interviews, since the story about seeing the twins keeps changing.

As for the saying, I don't think you have walked in Kate's shoes and yet you have no problem criticizing her. And there is hardly a lack of derogatory terms used to describe her on this blog. Terms that are much more vitriolic than "man up." Jon is equally fair game.

chefsummer said...

Ex Nurse said...

We honestly don't know if any of the kids have talent why cause Kate doesn't seem to encourage their individual talents it's all about what she wants and not what the kids want.

chefsummer said...

Tia & Tramera have a reality show show the twin angle is all ready taken.

Blowing In The Wind said...

I totally agree. I think "Whoppi" would, too.

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lol!! At least she comes up with alternative spellings, probably figuring that she'll hit on the correct one! Whoppie, Whoppi -- who cares when it's pronounced the same way?

Then, of course, there's Nile (like the river) of One Direction. Now Niall Horan knows that he is Mady's favorite. Bring on the backstage passes.

Oh, and it's good to know that Kate speaks (talks) verbally. Is it possible to speak in writing?

silimom said...

Hoosier Girl and Millicent - Amen to Jon taking a break and learning to be on his own. I agree, I think Jon is the kind of guy who needs a wife, if that makes any sense, and I get what Liz meant by feeling interchangeable. Hopefully, he'll get some insight into why he needs a strong (or in TFW's case domineering) woman in his life in order to function.

Carole said...

I was wondering while reading Dr. Glass's analysis of the twins on The View when she talked about Mady feeling the tups are so annoying: "So she has revealed to the world that things aren’t so rosey and hunky dory in that household as Kate would like us to believe."
We've seen sibling rivalry between all of the kids for years and with it, very poor conflict resolution; left to their own devices they resort to hitting, screeching, slapping.

Here's something to ponder...
I wonder if M & C were merely tolerating their younger siblings and to keep them happy (maybe keep them living with her), and of course bond with them as BFFs, that that's when they started their nightly bedtime chats and that's when TFW began the twin's alienation from Jon by using the excuse that they needed a break from the tups? Once their needs for attention were being met, with perks thrown in for good measure, it was easy for TFW to begin teaching them the script they were to follow to help her get them back on tv again. I can see this playing out in full color.

Blowing In The Wind said...

If it is true that Jon was able to buy a house with his CT paycheck and related media appearances and articles, then why wouldn't they see this as a valid career goal.

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Did Jon buy a house? Where was this reported? I heard him say that they "moved," but nothing about purchasing a property. Did I miss it?

She is a Cow said...

Blowing In The Wind said... 47

It's good to know that her hand never leaves her arm. Having a disembodied hand flopping around on a sofa really wouldn't be such a good thing, unless it landed on Kate's mouth and silenced her

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Hahaha, hilarious

sparkle said...

OrangeCrusher1 said... 60


Which is pretty much what many of us are saying. Who wants to watch this? Who is going to tune in to see Kate drag things out of the mouths of teens on an "unscripted" reality show? She who has such a kind a nd gentle way about her. Mady clearly resents her younger sibs, Cara clearly does not want to be in front of a camera. Taking this farther is sheer nonsense.
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Kate has 8 kids, we get it. She is single because she decided to divorce the father of her children, we get it. She wants to earn a living, I totally get that.

However, why does any of the above REQUIRE she have a television show? Where does it say that she simply cannot move ahead with her life or earn a living any other way than reality tv? Why does an almost 38 year old woman pine away for someone to take pity on her and hand her a show? Her behavior doesn't make her strong and determined, it makes her immature, stubborn and incapable of properly parenting her children.

angie said...

As far as the twins being 'average', I agree...but I believe the Kardashian clan are worse than mediocre, and look what they have accomplished (gee, if I let my kids get their you-know-what shaved on tv, they'd have their college loans paid off).

WOS is never going to quit trying to get her and her kids on tv. EVER. if the twins get a gig, then in a few yrs, the 6 can get a show....

WOS can sit back and spend their fortunes.

I hope the industry has the same opinion of this trainwreck as Andy Cohen and Chelsea.
I also hope Jon contacted an atty this morning.

Call Me Crazy said...

Thanks for the great recap, Admin! I felt my IQ dropping just reading about the behavior of the "personalities" undergoing "therapy." I particularly liked your description of Duck Lips and Teen Duck Lips as having "marshmallows for brains." Pretty much says it all!

I laughed when I read your words about being haunted by KG. I picture her as the Demon Baby from this Ridiculist piece:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WPhybIyXGE

Thanks to everyone for their views/comments/opinions about what went on with the People, Today and View interviews. I was out of town for several days, so I am just now catching up on all the craziness. Just when you think TFW can sink no lower, she pulls these stunts. My heart breaks for her children. She has no respect for them. She is completely devoid of any maternal instinct, and does not have a protective bone in her plasticine body.

A quick shout out to Meagler - I am sorry about the medical issues you are facing with your children. I am hoping for the best for you and your family.

Mel said...

I wonder if M & C were merely tolerating their younger siblings and to keep them happy (maybe keep them living with her), and of course bond with them as BFFs, that that's when they started their nightly bedtime chats and that's when TFW began the twin's alienation from Jon by using the excuse that they needed a break from the tups?

And there we have manipulation at its finest.

Mom taking advantage of the kids' feelings for her own end game (demolish dad).

angie said...

However, why does any of the above REQUIRE she have a television show? Where does it say that she simply cannot move ahead with her life or earn a living any other way than reality tv? Why does an almost 38 year old woman pine away for someone to take pity on her and hand her a show? Her behavior doesn't make her strong and determined, it makes her immature, stubborn and incapable of properly parenting her children.
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8 lashes with the wooden spoon!
well, WOS needs a show because, ya know, she is super duper talented...has the gift of gab. ya know, she told us on her disney trip that her 'voice is her best feature'.
she's super organized, the best cook in the world, so much in fact that she spends 80% of her time in the kitchen!
she spend all that money on botox, fillers, fake boobs, she DESERVES to be on tv.
she loves being in front of the camera. She told us so.
So that's why she deserves a show.
LOL

AuntieAnn said...

Oh, and it's good to know that Kate speaks (talks) verbally. Is it possible to speak in writing?

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I don't know. I'm so confused. lol!

"Even though they did manage to speak spoke, their speaking abilities left a lot to be desired, especially Cara’s muteness."

She lost me right there.

According to wiki she's written articles for US Weekly, OK!, Life and Style, Newsweek, Hollywoodlife, Radaronline, LA Times, NY Times, NY Post, Washington Post, and USA Today and has a monthly column in Cos.

WTH? Somebody must be cleaning it up for her because if she writes the way she does on her blog, I don't know how she gets those gigs.



Carole said...

As for the saying, I don't think you have walked in Kate's shoes and yet you have no problem criticizing her. And there is hardly a lack of derogatory terms used to describe her on this blog.

The problem is that we comment on the things TFW does and blabs about on her blog and twitter and magazines and on tv and other than very recently Jon has been quiet and there was nothing to say. And, except for a few isolated instances we DON'T know what he has tried to do in court. If you've been reading here for any length of time, I think you'll see that Jon receives his fair share of criticism. This blog has always tended to look more favorably upon Jon than TFW though because quite simply, most believe he's the better parent - but both have always been openly criticized.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

A virtual rumspringa toast to this hilarious recap, Admin! And thanks to you and the blog girls (old and new) for keeping up with this fast and furious month in Gosselin history. No clapping and/or snapping required -- you come through every time!


Blowing In The Wind said...

As for the saying, I don't think you have walked in Kate's shoes and yet you have no problem criticizing her.

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There's no need to walk in Kate's shoes. Feet are highly overrated. One only needs eyes, and we've used ours on Thursday and yesterday.

Carole said...

How lucrative is the twitter-bot business? I've never seen anything like the # of repeated tweets on TFW's TL. I wonder how much money these people/businesses make doing this. Maybe I need to find a part time job. LOL

canadianmom1 said...

I just watched them on the view and I have a few points (that I'm SURE have been covered already) but I really want to speak out about them-

First of all... why was Kate's hair SOOOOOO GREASY??? They kept zooming in on her face and all I could see was this greasy, stringy hair hanging in her face, it was distracting...

Also, SO F%&KING WHAT IF YOU WANT ANOTHER REALITY SHOW?!?!? seriously, so.what. I'm so sick of her begging and pleading for a new show... and since that didn't work now she's dragging her kids around forcing them to say that they want one also?!?!? WHO CARES, SO WHAT??? My kids want a lot of ridiculous, unrealistic stuff too... doesn't mean they will get any of it. The entitlement of this family just blows my mind! Not to mention that she has already had two shows and she blew them both... sorry but you had your chance.

I was pissed when they started bashing the tups, it was totally unfair and it showed me what I have suspected for a long time- that Kate (and the twins I suspect) have a very deep resentment towards them, those 6 kids have given that family unbelievable advantages that they would have never had without them, its like a love/hate relationship. Kate and the twins vs the tups.

Mady was in full blown teenager/bad attitude mode, but I suspect that this was encouraged by Kate for the interview. She is desperate for this "Growing up Gosselin" plan of hers to get some traction and eventually land her a new show and she needed Mady to fill the role of "bitchy teenager". I don't for ONE SECOND think that Mady can get away with that kind of attitude at home without Kate raining down hell on her.

And lastly, BW needs to retire. Her old brain just isn't what it used to be. They were in full conversation about the cookbook and she blurts/yells out "DO YOU SEE YOUR FATHER????" What a crazy old bat!

Anyway, thanks for letting me rant. Hope your all having a wonderful day! :)

chefsummer said...

As for the saying, I don't think you have walked in Kate's shoes and yet you have no problem criticizing her.
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Walk in her shoes the shoes of a.

A proven liar.
Child exploiter
Child abuser/ Animal abuser/Spouse abuser.
A woman who tells her family to go away and stay away cause they don't like her exploiting her children.

A millionaire who counties to grift and beg and has no shame in doing so.

A self mother who takes off on vacation when she feels like it but can't/won't take her kids to a park.

No thanks I don't want to walk in her shoes.

Paula said...

I only criticize Kate for things she, herself, has put on the public domain....You are criticizing Jon on something that you know nothing about - what he's tried to do through the court system. Big difference.

Localyocul said...

http://www.babypost.com/blogs/celebrity-baby-post/kate-gosselin-brings-her-twin-girls-view

angie said...

hey, didn't WOS of the girls 'that's the most wordless I've heard them all day'.

umm....what?
LOL

chefsummer said...

LOL ya'll talking about Liz but then Kate probably just rolled out of bed and walked on the view/today show set.

Blowing In The Wind said...

"Even though they did manage to speak spoke, their speaking abilities left a lot to be desired, especially Cara’s muteness."

She lost me right there.

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Geez, Auntie. I missed that one. That's really funny. I guess if one doesn't speak spoke verbally, the thoughts can be put into writing, therefore remaining verbally mute.

"WTH? Somebody must be cleaning it up for her because if she writes the way she does on her blog, I don't know how she gets those gigs."

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I think that it would take more than a clean-up. A maintenance crew would be called in to do the job.

You might know what you're talking about, but wouldn't you be embarrassed to put anything like that on a blog and admit that you've written it?

Oh, well. To each his own, I guess.

Formerly Duped said...

angie said... 75
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I agree with you re: the Kardashians .I thought Paris Hilton was bad, but this crew have obnoxious voices, terrible manners, cheating husbands and petty ways yet they have a show and are admired by many. I honestly thought it was a joke when i heard Kim was naming her child North West.

AuntieAnn said...

Walk in her shoes? Why? Good grief no one has had it easier than Kate. She's bone lazy and has had everything handed to her or done for her that you can possibly think of.

Layla said...

My take on M&C not seeing Jon..
I think it's like a hostage situation. Someone (TFW) has taken hostages and a couple of the hostages (M+C) say, "Let the others go. We'll stay with you but let them go". Hostage-taker releases all but the ones who offered to say. Remaining hostages (M&C) placate TFW and try to keep her clam so she doesn't lose it and hurt someone.
There have been times when all the kids have been with Jon. What do you think TFW is like when they get home? All happy and thrilled to see them? Or enraged because they have been spending time with her mortal enemy? M&C are sacrificing themselves to keep TFW calm and happy. It's the price they have to pay to protect themselves and their siblings from the wrath of TFW. And I can see how it may cause them to resent the tups, who get to escape for some fun time with Dad.

Localyocul said...

@Kateplusmy8: Kept this roll of backdrop paper (from our last fam @peoplemag shoot) for the PERFECT day...Today is it! #Snowydayfun http://t.co/zUMrPBkcOT

@rbiggersvasquez: @Kateplusmy8 @peoplemag ..cashing in, must be running out of money! Next stop @TheEllenShow

Daria said...

Carole said... 80
As for the saying, I don't think you have walked in Kate's shoes and yet you have no problem criticizing her. And there is hardly a lack of derogatory terms used to describe her on this blog.

The problem is that we comment on the things TFW does and blabs about on her blog and twitter and magazines and on tv and other than very recently Jon has been quiet and there was nothing to say. And, except for a few isolated instances we DON'T know what he has tried to do in court. If you've been reading here for any length of time, I think you'll see that Jon receives his fair share of criticism. This blog has always tended to look more favorably upon Jon than TFW though because quite simply, most believe he's the better parent - but both have always been openly criticized.
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I never said that Jon has not been criticized here. I responded to a specific poster who took someone to task for daring to criticize Jon and used the "you haven't walked in his shoes" argument. Unless that individual also has chosen not to criticize Kate and objects to criticism of her using the same "you haven't walked in her shoes" argument, then my point remains. Nobody has to agree with the criticism of Jon, but to object to it on grounds that the criticism is "derogatory" or "don't judge because you haven't lived it" is incredibly hypocritical when that is done to Kate every day here. There shouldn't be one set of "rules" for the side you like and a different set for the side you don't.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

angie said...

WOS is never going to quit trying to get her and her kids on tv. EVER. if the twins get a gig, then in a few yrs, the 6 can get a show....

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Unbeknownst to us, old Katie was counting down until the twins turned 13 so she could play the teenager card. She envisions getting this show and the twins will grow up, become young adults, the six will become teenagers then college students while the twins marry and have kids--then a whole new generation will "grow up Gosselin." SO pretentious. As if!

And using Gosselin as an adjective ("Growing up Gosselin") is just over the top. Her head must be bigger than the girls on her chest now! Talk about top heavy. Ha!

Also, I want to join Call Me Crazy in the shout out to Meagler. I hope your news is good and very sorry you and your family are enduring this.

Mel said...

Layla said... 93 <----- I think you've got it.

That scenario makes the most sense out of all of this. Especially since Cara seems to do a lot of the daily care of the kids, and we've seen Mady try to protect them. I wonder if Cara doesn't have a strong nurturer instinct, and Mady has a strong protector instinct.

I would also expect that it's unconscious to a large degree on the twins' part.
And let's face it...they're still kids. What kid isn't going to respond to the subtle message of 'I'll get you 1D tickets (or whatever) if you take my side. You know your dad can't obtain those tickets.....I wouldn't take his side if you want those tickets.'
They're kids; they can't help being pretty materialistic at that age.

Layla said...

Admin (and any other legal pros out there), is it even possible to modify child support so that one parent doesn't pay in exchange for promising to not object to the children being filmed? It would seem that, if Jon objected, and especially if he thought it was doing harm, he would still be able to go to court and try to stop it. You can't take away a parent's right to look out for the well-being of his children.

We all agree that a judge would have to be involved in any modifications to child support. We don't know why a judge decided that Jon shouldn't pay, but there are plenty of good reasons. A judge could have looked at that $22,000 a month he was paying after the divorce and think that was excessive (it was!) and decide what was a reasonable amount, and the extra that was paid could be considered future child support payments. But the idea of saying, "Judge, I want to forgive child support in exchange for no objections to exploiting my kids" just doesn't hold water for me. Parents--even ones who do not have legal custody--still have an obligation and the legal right to look out for the well-being of their children.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

I don't for ONE SECOND think that Mady can get away with that kind of attitude at home without Kate raining down hell on her.

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I do think that she gets away with it at home. I believe that Kate is afraid of her. She knows that if Kate reprimands her, Mady is liable to spill the truth, either to her friends at school, or other adults. I sometimes wonder if she holds Kate hostage in this respect -- come down on me, .and I'll tell -- and Kate knows that she would do it.

Carole said...

If you think Dr. Glass's blog is difficult to read you should go back and try to decipher some of the ones from '09-'10 when she was blogging about TFW regularly. People commented on the errors and she said she was in too much of a hurry to get them posted to worry about the mistakes. lol

Good reading if you want to go back thru her old blogs about TFW - there are a lot of them. lol

Rainbirdie said...

I would have happily taken a walk in Kate's original shoes - loving husband, 8 healthy kids, supportive family & community and once in a lifetime financial opportunity. Kate kicked off those perfectly good shoes for a flashy pair that cause pain & will eventually be tossed in the trash. No need to walk in those since the outcome is obvious.

Anonymous said...

(Leslie)
Great recap Admin. I enjoyed it throughly!

Kate tweeted Deanna about some luxury sheets that she enjoys. So I clicked on the link to the company's twitter and they tweeted back saying to Kate that they are glad that she and her mate Deanna enjoy them! Too funny! She has some nerve tweeting about luxury sheets when she hasn't worked in two years and cries poor.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 33m
Kept this roll of backdrop paper (from our last fam @peoplemag shoot) for the PERFECT day...Today is it! #Snowydayfun pic.twitter.com/zUMrPBkcOT

Last family shoot? Didn't she say it was the twins first cover shoot?

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 33m
@deannatweeting @bflydreams join the obsession, my friend! Sleep ISN'T over rated if you have @bflydreams sheets! Glad you love them!

What is she grifting this time? Sheets?

The company responded:

Butterfly Dreams ‏@bflydreams 1h
@Kateplusmy8 Hi. Thank you for introducing our sheets to your mate @deannatweeting ! Good things are meant to be shared! ;) Hope u r well!

Deanna is Kate's mate? Well, there you go...

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Mady is too self-centered to give a crap and has grown up hearing her mother tell them that people are just jealous of them (her). Well if that doesn't generate arrogance and cockiness, I don't know what does.

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Mady whispering to her mother that she forgot the word "fabulous" in describing herself and Cara says a lot. First, whispering is rude, but whispering on national TV? Very bad form. Most telling is that Mady believes, because Kate has drilled it into her, that she's not ordinary--she's fabulous. Mady is in for some heartbreak when she realizes she's a teen just like the others at her school, no more or less fabulous.

And then there's this thought: didn't Mady say, "You forgot fabulous." Was Mady aware of Kate's scripted response and did Kate forget her line, too?

Paula said...

don't judge because you haven't lived it" is incredibly hypocritical when that is done to Kate every day here

The sheeple so easily out themselves....Anyway, I replied to the poster in the manner I did because the poster has no clue what Jon has/has not in regards to family court, so to tell him to "man up" over something he/she knows nothing about is wrong. Kate is fair game to be judged on what she herself puts forth in the public on a daily basis.

Sheeple Herder said...

Kart is tweeting about sheets. When I went to the website I discovered that a set of queen sheets is $165.00. Perhaps they sing you to sleep.

I might not have such a huge dislike for the woman if she would just own the fact that she isn't "piecing and patching" to get by.

Wait. It wouldn't matter. She still irritates me to no end.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

So if you look at the photos Kate posted today of the kids' artwork, you can clearly see one child drew a picture of their driveway LINED WITH TREES. Thought all but one or two fell over in a storm? She's such a twit.

chefsummer said...

Kate has been walking in the same shoes for 4yrs.

1. Using her kids 4 her again. 2. Trashing Jon.

I don't agree with calling her nasty names however calling her what she is a big diff. Kate is a child abuser an animal abuser she was a spouse abuser and she is a child exploiter.

She also never ever denies being these things.

Licalyocul said...

Darla I knew what you meant and appreciate it. And I agree we can't have it both ways. I won't be a Jon sheep. I like him and think he's the better if the two but he has flaws and I think he's been less than honest.

Anonymous said...

(Leslie) Comment 104
Virginia Penn Mom: And then there's this thought: didn't Mady say, "You forgot fabulous." Was Mady aware of Kate's scripted response and did Kate forget her line, too?
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I agree with all you said. Mady's head is huge! But guess what. When Kate talked about the twins on the View, she said they are "fabulous"!

I think Whoopi laughed at Mady not because she thought she was funny but because she hated Kate and Mady was putting her in her place. That is it.

The View was over Kate Gosselin. She had not been on their show since Oct. 2011. (Correct me if I am wrong). They had enough of her. Kate was in NY for her "press tour" for her cookbook and the View would not have her on.

The ONLY reason Kate showed up on the View and the Today show was because of her throwing her twins out there. The world wanted to see how they turned out and what they would say.

How disgusting to throw your on flesh and blood out there in order to get your own face on TV. That says it all.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate has 8 kids, we get it. She is single because she decided to divorce the father of her children, we get it. She wants to earn a living, I totally get that.

However, why does any of the above REQUIRE she have a television show? Where does it say that she simply cannot move ahead with her life or earn a living any other way than reality tv? Why does an almost 38 year old woman pine away for someone to take pity on her and hand her a show? Her behavior doesn't make her strong and determined, it makes her immature, stubborn and incapable of properly parenting her children.
January 21, 2014 at 10:57 AM
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Oh, sparkle, preach it!
My sediments for many years now. Adding, as I've done before, that Kate et. al. should be so incredibly grateful for the blessings they've received, on so many levels.
I know I've seen many actors step away from successful roles and shows, because they want to go out on top, and also because it's time to make room for the next lucky and talented person to share in that level of success.
Also, who wants to be on tv past their expiration date/shelf life?
It's just pitiful to watch.
To wit: Baba Wawa. Her "due by" date was in some year that started with 199X.

Somewhere In Time said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 33m
@deannatweeting @bflydreams join the obsession, my friend! Sleep ISN'T over rated if you have @bflydreams sheets! Glad you love them!

Is $165 expensive or inexpensive for a queen sheet set? I don't know. I sleep quite comfortably on my $40 Targets ($32 with the 20% off coupon),

Anonymous said...

(Leslie)
Also if Mady does wind up on reality tv again as an entitled,bratty teen all those old clips of her acting up on J&K Plus 8 and Kate Plus 8 will be dragged out of the vault and shown again to the world. And Mady's behavior was very unbecoming when she was a child. I will leave it at that. And Kate's said many, many ugly things about Mady as a child on tape. I remember watching a marathon years ago and writing down all the ugly things Kate said about Mady and it was VERY shocking. All of this will resurface if Mady takes center stage on reality tv again. And Kate has to know this.

Tucker's Mom said...

Meagler, thank you for reaching out and sharing. Prayers and good thoughts to your family, along with grace and strength.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Jon has right of first refusal which means Kate can't leave the kids without asking him first if he would like to watch them instead of the nanny. Apparently that was also part of her violation. She left the tups behind when she went to NYC without offering to Jon if he wanted them. Jon actually might have been very savvy to put it on record he was not informed of this. Had she honored his right of first refusal he would have known.

chefsummer said...

Did KK use a couponbyKate for her sheets?-(LOL)

G'Day Mate! said...

Somewhere In Time said... 112
Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 33m
@deannatweeting @bflydreams join the obsession, my friend! Sleep ISN'T over rated if you have @bflydreams sheets! Glad you love them!

Is $165 expensive or inexpensive for a queen sheet set? I don't know. I sleep quite comfortably on my $40 Targets ($32 with the 20% off coupon)
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Appears to be an Australian or NZ company. Steve must have turned her on (coughcough) to these.

And as always, no class Kate is boasting about her greedy grifting. Whatever. What a sad, pathetic sack of nothing she is.

Starz22 said...

A question about Roberts book

If he has the green light to publish his book, why does he need a publisher? Why can't he put the book on his own website? There are many websites that have an access fee before you can enter them. Why can't he put his book on his site and charge $8.88 or whatever then you enter, download and then read the book?

Nancy said...

So Admin would that mean she also violated right of first refusal with CWS. She left and a stranger and camera crew looked after the kids. She has basically said she didn’t tell him?

Somewhere In Time said...

Jon has right of first refusal which means Kate can't leave the kids without asking him first if he would like to watch them instead of the nanny. Apparently that was also part of her violation. She left the tups behind when she went to NYC without offering to Jon if he wanted them. Jon actually might have been very savvy to put it on record he was not informed of this. Had she honored his right of first refusal he would have known.

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So in other words, she was sneaky. She didn't offer him his right because she knew if did, then he'd know she was taking the kids out of state for a television appearance which would have been a violation?

????????? said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 115
Jon has right of first refusal which means Kate can't leave the kids without asking him first if he would like to watch them instead of the nanny. Apparently that was also part of her violation. She left the tups behind when she went to NYC without offering to Jon if he wanted them. Jon actually might have been very savvy to put it on record he was not informed of this. Had she honored his right of first refusal he would have known.
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Admin, when Jon goes to court, does he have to pay his attorney fees? Seems like Kate should have to pay since she violated the agreement, therefore initiating the action. Is there a protocol for this?

Kate is a twit said...

The View was over Kate Gosselin. She had not been on their show since Oct. 2011. (Correct me if I am wrong). They had enough of her. Kate was in NY for her "press tour" for her cookbook and the View would not have her on.
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Leslie--Actually, the last time Kate was on the View was in February 2013, but that was mainly to promote CWS which is on the same network, so there was a reason for that appearance.

Her previous appearance before that was,as you stated, in October 2011 when she appeared on their Halloween show. That show was done right after the snowstorm where she "lost" all her trees, yet somehow she managed to get herself to NY to do the show.

High Sodium Content said...

If Kate puts those kids on TV again, they will be spit out and dragged through the mud. They are boring and mediocre, have nothing to offer. What's the show going to entail, kids come home from school, and do chores for 3 hours, Kate takes kids to bus stop and goes back to bed. Kids are home, Kate tweets. That IS THERE LIFE. They don't travel, interact with family, the younger kids do nothing while with Kate. Seems she can't even be bothered taking them on a day trip to the beach.

I did watch/listen in the background to CT. Liz is rough around the edges, but we don't know how or where she grew up. We don't know what happened in her marriage. She may have had a rough childhood, been bullied by a lot of brothers, etc. so she's not a frilly, soft, cuddly female, could have been raised in a male or male dominated household. I don't fault them for their attire, seems they spent at least an extra day on the road. At least Liz isn't slapping Jon around and complaining he's breathing.

AuntieAnn said...

Virginia Pen Mom said... 104

And then there's this thought: didn't Mady say, "You forgot fabulous." Was Mady aware of Kate's scripted response and did Kate forget her line, too?

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I'm sure they went over it a few times before they went on but for someone who so desperately wants another show, she should at least be good at remembering lines.

And let's just hope she didn't carelessly toss that script into the garbage for anyone to find.

Paula said...

I'm just little old mediocre me. I buy my sheets (king size) during the JC Penney white sales. And now, I would shoot myself if I ever paid $165 for a pair of sheets.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

So it was more important to keep the father unaware that she was pimping his daughters out on talk shows filming in NYC than run the risk of being legally take to task for breaching the right of first refusal. Her ego and bald desire to be back on tv has reached a new high, or actually low. What sanctions might she face?

I confess, as an educator, I am taken back that Dr. Glass publishes without proof reading/editing. I stopped reading her blog a few years ago since it was uncomfortable to read. Her field is body language, and so I found her comments about the girls, and Kate, quite interesting once I waded through the errors.

AuntieAnn said...

Leslie said...

And Kate's said many, many ugly things about Mady as a child on tape. I remember watching a marathon years ago and writing down all the ugly things Kate said about Mady and it was VERY shocking.

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Yes she did, constantly. She found her very *cough* annoying at times.

Jeanne said...

God, can you imagine being haunted by Kate Gosselin? And what sort of medium or ghost hunter would you call who would be willing to get rid of it?

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For a little comic relief, have you ever seen Just Like Heaven? Reese Witherspoon is a ghost living in Mark Ruffalo's apartment (really her apartment) and he tries to get rid of her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoInDyDrLKk

Kate is a twit said...

The Stir has an article about the twins' appearance on the View. Finally, someone over there has the gumption to call out Kate on her parenting. Although she also disses Jon, I think she says exactly what a the majority of the people who have seen both interviews are thinking.

"What it seems like, to an outsider, is that both Kate and Jon are using their children as pawns in their bitter relationship. Jon, although we don't see him as often as Kate, seems to always find time to comment on how his kids are growing up dysfunctionally. And Kate -- well, I think it's fairly obvious from the fact that her children froze and looked at her when asked about their father that she isn't exactly taking the high road when it comes to matters of her ex.

In the past few years, we've heard so much from Jon and Kate -- and it's almost always been immature, petty, or rude. It makes you wonder about the things Mady and Cara have been subject to over the years. What have they overheard? What have they been told?

When parents attempt to pit their kids against one another, nobody wins -- especially when both parents do it. Mady and Cara claim to be okay, but I sort wonder what their answer to that question would be if their mother wasn't beside them and a camera wasn't pointed at their faces."

http://thestir.cafemom.com/teen/167137/kate_gosselins_twins_clam_up

Paula said...

No, say it isn't so...Kate ignoring a custody agreement. Welp, I guess she can walk in those shoes and 'splain to the judge.

Somewhere In Time said...

And now, I would shoot myself if I ever paid $165 for a pair of sheets.

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But you get zippered pillowcases with those sheets. Wouldn't that make it a bit less painful? ;-)

Mel said...

One of the comments on Dr. Glass's latest blog post. Just sad. Makes you want to cry.

Dr. Glass, i wish you could come here to town and see these poor girls (and their siblings) in person. These are NOT happy children.
stef24 - January 21, 2014 at 7:36 pm

Anonymous said...

If M & C are so ready for Prime Time, why is their mother always with them? No need for her to be on the couch. She should stay backstage. They're 13 years old, not toddlers. Oh, wait...what was I thinking? The twins couldn't possibly make it on their own. They're only famous because of her. Right?

So they want a reality show. Well, people in hell want ice-water.

PJ

Tucker's Mom said...

There shouldn't be one set of "rules" for the side you like and a different set for the side you don't.
*****
Right, Daria, you're new???? Anyhoo... welcome!
Yup, there's a bit of "shade" thrown at Jon here, from many, including me. But it seems to be a "lesser of two evils" kind of thing, where Jon is the lesser.
Anyway, it's been an intense couple of days, so "fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy ride"!

Kate is a twit said...

Here's the clip from Chelsea Lately about the twins and Kate.

http://www.eonline.com/shows/chelsea_lately/videos/216821/kate-gosselin-s-tv-plan-goes-bust

The person playing Kate nailed it when she said "the only thing I like about being a mother, is being a mother on TV".

Somewhere In Time said...

Follow

Kate GosselinVerified account
‏@Kateplusmy8
Aww, 'Beauty&the Beast'!
At this time, our family is still discussing 'who is who' but Zorro says he's the beauty! pic.twitter.com/N4QRWKw3tY

I can see that Kate is taking the advice of those with experience in parrot ownership and is not letting her bird sit on a shoulder.

PatK said...

Speaking of coupons, PR Rep Milo has been remiss in his/her duties of tweeting daily to direct shoppers to Kate's coupon site. Did he/she/it finally realize it was a lost cause?

Millicent said...

OrangeCrusher1 said:

I confess, as an educator, I am taken back that Dr. Glass publishes without proof reading/editing. I stopped reading her blog a few years ago since it was uncomfortable to read.
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Same here. It seems so unprofessional, that I have a hard time taking her seriously. If she herself is unable to correctly spell, use proper punctuation or otherwise proof her own writing, certainly she ought to be able to afford to hire a college student majoring in English or otherwise proficient in editing to do so for her.

Jane said...

Whatever happened with the not-a-contest? I know ... there were SO many entries she and the kids are still deciding. That must be what's keeping her from her blog and promoting her book and coupon site!

Paula said...

LOL...no zippers on my pillowcases. :) I roll and tumble so much in my sleep, I'm lucky the pillow stays in the case. Maybe I should check into those sheets....

Millicent said...

Is $165 expensive or inexpensive for a queen sheet set? I don't know. I sleep quite comfortably on my $40 Targets ($32 with the 20% off coupon)
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I would not spend that amount of money on a sheet set, because I have other priorities. If I happen to have that amount extra at the end of the month, it goes into my son's college fund, or buying him something else he needs. On average, I buy a new sheet set once every year but I wait for a sale. I have a set of flannel sheets that I bought at Target about 3 years ago, and those get put into rotation during the winter months. But of course, TFW has to brag about how much she spends on sheets (for herself). I'm sure the kids make do with whatever was least expensive.

Somewhere In Time said...

LOL...no zippers on my pillowcases. :) I roll and tumble so much in my sleep, I'm lucky the pillow stays in the case. Maybe I should check into those sheets....

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My problem isn't rolling and tumbling. It's my dog. I can get up and go to the bathroom, and in that short period of time, she has taken the pillowcase off the pillow. I have no idea why, or what pleasure she gets from it because she doesn't play with either the pillow or the case...she just likes taking it off...and she is so good at it, no rips or tears.

PatK said...

Oh, looky! Kate is back to tweeting pics of her family and THE BIRD!! Just in case anyone forgot about her in the more than 24 hours since the Gosselin name was aired on television!!

*snap, snap*

Kelly said...

See Kate, you should have splurged for those gymnastic and other (I forget) recreational activities that the tups wanted to participate in. Perhaps you had a budding Gabby Douglas in you midst and because you couldn't grift free gymnastic classes, it may have you cost you a new reality show. Seriously, the twins are cute but unless they've got a secret hidden talent, they will never have more than a pilot show following their lives. I sat with a peds patient yesterday and while waiting for her discharge orders we watched competitive dance videos on YouTube. There is so much talent out there. Real, skilled talent. I don't see the twins having anything to offer reality t.v., just like ninety percent of kids their age. And, might I add, as it should be, teens need to live out the rollercoaster teen years in privacy. I think I'd have to hide under a rock for eternity if my teen years were available for the world to gape at. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

The begging for donations to publish RH's book is bugging me. Something just does not feel right about this. There are so many causes that you can donate to and it will make a real impact on lives. I would not donate to RH on a GoFundMe page, on his blog or anywhere else. He can make bank on a book and should not need anyone's donations. Please Robert, if the person posting and tweeting is not affiliated with you, say so now because she's making you look bad. I just wrote out a huge check (part of our vacation fund included) to the fund set up for Christine Keith's children. She's the lady who ran the blog Adventures Of A Thrifty Mama. Google if you want to learn about that tragedy. I normally never ask anyone to reach into their pockets, but if you can spare anything, please consider contributing to her children.

Hope the above is okay Admin and I understand if you do not publish my comment.

Anonymous said...

(Leslie)
http://www.eonline.com/shows/chelsea_lately/videos/216821/kate-gosselin-s-tv-plan-goes-bust
Here is the clip from Chelsea about the Today show failure and Kate "being a bitch" and "her desperate quest for fame". Go Chelsea!

AuntieAnn said...

Kate is a twit said... 129

The Stir has an article about the twins' appearance on the View. Finally, someone over there has the gumption to call out Kate on her parenting. Although she also disses Jon, I think she says exactly what a the majority of the people who have seen both interviews are thinking.
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teehee.

Kate has left quite a trail of disapproving former employers and co-workers behind her.

Math Girl said...

Fleecing The Sheeple said... 103

Deanna is Kate's mate? Well, there you go...
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One half of the couple who founded butterfly dreams is from Australia. In Australia, "mate" is an informal term for a friend, kind of like "pal" or "buddy".

I think that's what they meant, though the double-meaning is kind of funny since Deanna played WOS's wife on Wife Swap.

I find $165 for a set of sheets expensive but not exorbitant. I wouldn't pay that, but I wouldn't think that people who do are totally extravagant idiots. The people who tweeted her about linen dish towels are much more expensive, and I keep getting Google ads for them ever since I looked them up.

Anonymous said...

(Check all those that apply to your relationship with your mother)
When you discuss your life issues with your mother, does she divert the discussion to talk about herself?
When you discuss your feelings with your mother, does she she try to top the feeling with her own?
Does your mother act jealous of you?
Does your mother lack empathy for your feelings?
Does your mother only support those things you do that reflect on her as a “good mother?”
Have you consistently felt a lack of emotional closeness with your mother?
Have you consistently questioned whether or not your mother likes you or loves you?
Does your mother only do things for you when others can see?
When something happens in your life (accident, illness, divorce,) does your mother react with how it will affect her rather than how you feel?
Is or was your mother overly conscious of what others think (neighbors, friends, family, co-workers)?
Does your mother deny her own feelings?
Does your mother blame things on you or others rather than own responsibility for her feelings or actions?
Is or was your mother hurt easily and then carried a grudge for a long time without resolving the problem?
Do you feel you were a slave to your mother?
Do you feel you were responsible for your mother’s ailments or sickness (headaches, stress, illness)?
Did you have to take care of your mother’s physical needs as a child?
Do you feel unaccepted by your mother?
Do you feel your mother was critical of you?
Do you feel helpless in the presence of your mother?
Are you shamed often by your mother?
Do you feel your mother knows the real you?
Does your mother act like the world should revolve around her?
Do you find it difficult to be a separate person from your mother?
Does your mother appear phony to you?
Does your mother want to control your choices?
Does your mother swing from egotistical to a depressed mood?
Did you feel you had to take care of your mother’s emotional needs as a child?
Do you feel manipulated in the presence of your mother?
Do you feel valued by mother for what you do rather than who you are?
Is your mother controlling, acting like a victim or martyr?
Does your mother make you act different from how you really feel?
Does your mother compete with you?
Does your mother always have to have things her way?
Note: All of these questions relate to narcissistic traits. The more questions you checked, the more likely your mother has narcissistic traits and this has caused some difficulty for you as a growing daughter and adult.

http://www.willieverbegoodenough.com/narcissistic-mother/

Sorry this is so long. I scored 28/33.

Localyocul said...

http://thestir.cafemom.com/teen/167137/kate_gosselins_twins_clam_up?utm_medium=sm&utm_source=rss&utm_content=teen_rssfeed&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Anonymous said...

(Leslie)
Kate tweeted: At this time, our family is still discussing 'who is who' but Zorro says he's the beauty!
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Deflect, deflect, deflect...her family is NOT discussing the failure of the Today show or the VIew show. Or how Mady said she disliked everyone of her 6 siblings. Or how Mady called one of her siblings a "wild animal". Oh no, Kate wants us to think none of that ever affected her family at all. And Kate is thinking about her luxurious sheets. They are discussing the bird, yeah Kate, whatever you say or tweet.

Kelly said...

Oh and I forgot to add that I respect anyone who does wish to contribute funds toward the publishing of RH's book.

Ex Nurse, I can see where people who were not familiar with this saga would look at Mady on The Today Show and say she's a little sassy spitfire - just like her mama..how cute etc.. I know people who think smart-mouthed kids are cute and I shake my head in disbelief. It might show spunk in kids who are not marionettes - like Mady - but I still don't like a smart mouth. Call me old fashioned. :)

Anonymous said...

(Leslie)
I am glad there was not a media storm over the better View interview like there was for the Today interview. At first I was disappointed and then I realized that it was really much better this way. I say this because millions have the Today show failure imbedded in their brains. I think millions that saw the Today interview, clips, or as least read about it that didn't see or hear about the View interview now have ONLY that disastrous Today show failure stored in their brain. For that, I think it is great. And the people that saw the View interview have to think badly of Kate for dragging them there right after the Today interview. Yes, the interview was better but it was not good or great by any means. And I am sure many know that Kate must have "happied" them up before the View interview.

Thanks, Kate is a Twit, for correcting me on when Kate was last on the View. As least they didn't invite her to promote her cookbook a few months ago. And she has not co-hosted in years. For that alone is a huge relief especially since Barbara thought she was a star back in 2009/2010.

And I love that the Chelsea comments and funny pun video is being shown on eonline. What a great outlet for all to hear Chelsea saying "Kate is a bitch", "Kate is "exploiting her kids", and her "desperatesquest for fame". That about wraps Kate in a neat tidy bow!

Localyocul said...

Where's the empathy Milo is always claiming haters lack?

@MiloandJack: VIDEO: Wendy Williams Breaks Down N Tears On Show, Claims Her Son Hates Her http://t.co/Rr3PUQBCCb via @gossipcop And she criticizes Kate!!

Is she going to battle Wendy Chelsey Andy on and on?

@MiloandJack: LOL Dismal Glass & all her analytical body observations...in her eyes the whole human race is lost! She's looks thru negative/dark eyes...

Rhymes with Witch said...

Kate is a child abuser an animal abuser she was a spouse abuser and she is a child exploiter. 108

In my book, that makes her a pimp

Call Me Crazy said...

Starz22 said... 118

A question about Roberts book

If he has the green light to publish his book, why does he need a publisher?
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Starz, I am guessing that he has no such "green light." Having a publisher on board would mean that they would assume a great portion of the responsibility when copyright issues arise.

I think Robert is still in a very tough spot, knowing that TFW will immediately sue him for copyright infringement if he releases it. I would bet she has threatened as much already. He can argue "fair use" as it pertains to "Criticism and Comment" or "News Reporting," and while he has said he only used a very small portion of the journal, it is a big gamble to take. He probably cannot afford the cost of defending himself. A trial could be very lengthy, and there is no guarantee that the judgment will be in his favor.

I think Robert wants more than anything to re-publish the book, but he may not be able to if it means financial ruin for him and his family. If he is desperate to publish, he might be wise to use a very small number of verbatim entries from the journal, picking and choosing only those that are the most damning. He could make the number of entries inconsequential enough in the eyes of the law to pass legal muster. Even though it isn't the best scenario, at least the book would be out and facts about TFW that aren't common knowledge (to most people) would come to light.

Localyocul said...

Uh oh Australia!

@iVillageAus: Angry teens and live TV = car crash. This celeb getting a serve from her daughters will make you cheer or cringe... http://t.co/xdfjtNlZo7

Rhymes with Witch said...

The person playing Kate nailed it when she said "the only thing I like about being a mother, is being a mother on TV." 135

Truer words were never spoken

Localyocul said...

I'm that was Cara

@sweetbren66: @ddlovato @Kateplusmy8 daughter #Maddy loves you as she exclaimed on @theviewtv @ABC she is adorable. #GreatRoleModel you are so honest !

Formerly Duped said...

Wasn't Kate's theme on the Stir The Year of The Teenager? That fizzled out fast.

Formerly Duped said...

I recently bought good quality flannel sheets ( with snowflake pattern!!) from The Xmas Tree Shop. $19.99 queen. Say no more.

Off to do preliminary shoveling :(

fidosmommy said...

I watched the View clip, and the way I read Mady' s comment "I wouldn't say it's WRONG, just not the WHOLE story is, "You don't know the half of what goes on at our house. If you only knew..."

Anonymous said...

(Leslie)
This is from Robert's Q&A:
Q: Why don't you just find a publisher to handle everything?

A: It's easier said than done. We're open to any and all inquiries from publishers who want to release the book. Anyone can feel free to contact publishers on our behalf or take on the financial responsibility of publishing the book themselves.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Brenda Schuettler ‏@sweetbren66 15m
@ddlovato @Kateplusmy8 daughter #Maddy loves you as she exclaimed on @theviewtv @ABC she is adorable. #GreatRoleModel you are so honest !

Who is honest? Kate or Mady?

Uh, Ms Uggs...that was Cara who exclaimed (she did? that was an exclamation...who knew?) that she LIKES Demi.

I wonder if this fan knows that her pal Chelsea said that the kids are not ready for television and that Kate is a bitch. If so, I guess she didn't stay tuned for the video snark.

Call Me Crazy said...

Layla said... 93

My take on M&C not seeing Jon..

I think it's like a hostage situation. Someone (TFW) has taken hostages and a couple of the hostages (M+C) say, "Let the others go. We'll stay with you but let them go".
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Hi Layla (love that name, and the song, by the way). I suppose this could be the situation, but I am reading things differently. Given the negative things M has said about her siblings, and given that the twins have probably been the primary caregivers (outside of the not-a-nannies) to the "littles" for a very long time, it makes sense to me that M and C just want to have some quiet time away from their younger sisters and brothers. They are probably relieved when the 6 go to Jon's because M and C then don't have the burden of being responsible for their care.

And even though their mother is a raving lunatic, it probably makes them feel good when she pays attention to them after so many years of being ignored and made to feel not as special as the tups.

Lalalalala said...

Dear Diary,

Mommy made me and Cara go on the Today Show this morning. I guess we showed her. She's been telling us to shut up for years so we did. Hehehehe.

'til tomorrow, Maddy

Dear Diary,

Mommy made us go on The View this morning. I put her in her place where she belongs. She's going to find out who's boss real soon. Hehehehehe..

'til tomorrow, Maddy

I really, really hope these kids are keeping journals.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

I think Robert is still in a very tough spot, knowing that TFW will immediately sue him for copyright infringement if he releases it. I would bet she has threatened as much already. He can argue "fair use" as it pertains to "Criticism and Comment" or "News Reporting," and while he has said he only used a very small portion of the journal, it is a big gamble to take. He probably cannot afford the cost of defending himself. A trial could be very lengthy, and there is no guarantee that the judgment will be in his favor.

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The sheeple who were adamant that the journals were altered or faked (Milo, Goody, and Hole-in-Her-Heart...looking at YOU)...what do they have to say about Kate copyrighting this work? Are they pretending it never happened? Have they run back to the barn with their tail between their legs? Wouldn't you think that they would ask themselves why Kate would copyright something that she never wrote?

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Where's the empathy Milo is always claiming haters lack?

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Milo is a pistol. Two-faced. As the saying goes, I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her.

Math Girl said...

The other linen company that appeared on Kate's twitter was linoto. They charge $299 for a queen sheet set. That's with standard pillow cases - zippers or shams are extra. And that's on sale! A single queen-size sheet is $159. But they do have free shipping to the US.

Now that I've googled them again, I'm braced for a barrage of ads from them!

handinhand said...

Admin, thanks for the clever recap. Always entertaining.
Thanks as well to those that kept this blog running smoothly during such a busy time.

I wonder if this latest firestorm reminds Kate of the good old days when she was a media staple during the time of the divorce? I do think she looks back on all that attention fondly. I think this week, she's reliving the glory days.

Amanda, Iowa said...

Kate is a twit said... 135
Here's the clip from Chelsea Lately about the twins and Kate.
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Amanda Iowa says.
Wow, Chelsea sure has her number, lol. She better dug and hide because Milo will come after her now too :-)

TLC stinks said...

I think having the twins publicly bash their siblings is part of the plan for a show. She thinks people want to tune in and watch kids fighting with each other and mom getting in the middle.

I think Kate has effectively stopped Robert from publishing due to her aggressive attorneys. Robert should sell his materials to a biographer or well-respected author to write the story. I am sure a true author could convert those materials into a top selling "fictional" story. If she sued, she would have to admit the character in the book is her.

PA Dutch Mom said...

At least Liz isn't slapping Jon around and complaining he's breathing.

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She was complaining that he was playing the victim. Is there any difference? I don't know...

Off to help with the shoveling.. I'm procrastinating, but it isn't getting any warmer out there. Windchills at 15 below tonight and tomorrow.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

@MiloandJack: LOL Dismal Glass & all her analytical body observations...in her eyes the whole human race is lost! She's looks thru negative/dark eyes...

Oh my dear Milo, not exactly - in the eyes of Dr. Glass it is not the whole human race that is lost, just the sweet Gosselin twins. Hard to believe their body language indicates such issues with their mother. I know, hon, that surprised the heck out of me too. Now about their wonderful mother, she didn't seem all that relaxed either, did she? Why would that be, do you have any idea? Funny, how all that lying and grifting, and grifting and lying, why it just is hard to contain sometimes.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Where's the empathy Milo is always claiming haters lack?

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Sleepless In Seattle said... 166

Milo is a pistol. Two-faced. As the saying goes, I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her

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Oh my gosh, Seattle! Milo just posted a picture and says she hates people who are two-faced! Read here much, Milo?

Math Girl said...

I agree with Call me Crazy at 163 on the twins going to Jon's house. I believe I read somewhere that Jon was arranging one evening a week with just the twins. That seems like a healthy arrangement to me. It allows for more individual attention (or at least smaller-group attention) for the kids. It would be even better if some of them were involved in outside activities, especially some of the younger children, so everyone could have some truly individual attention.

kids first said...

Maybe Robert should publicize the web site that shows she copywrighted the journal. Or put a snapshot of that page on his blog. He needs someone to tip off ROL. Ha ha.

lukebandit said...

sparkle said... 48
Localyocul said... 28
@MKSandAssocInc: @radar_online ROL is a joke. Why anyone considers reliable news source is beyond us... Not dignifying w/response. #teamGosselinkids
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Ha! After all, Radar is the oh so credible news source who said they verified the authenticity of Hailey's texts. Texts that turned out to be fake and caused Kate to drop her lawsuit. Verizon was not even Jon's cell carrier during the time frame in question.

Lukebandit, the GoFundme is a great idea! A good way to reach many more people. Robert getting this book out while the iron is hot is a much more worthwhile endeavor than begging people to pay for your foreign adoption. Or pay off your credit cards. Or for plastic surgery. Those are some of the ridiculous things I've seen people beg for, it's totally absurd. Robert's project has a purpose and a means to an end.

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You said paying for your foreign adoption. Remember, TFW's sister was doing the same thing for a girl from Ethiopia?

Did she ever adopt her? Did TFW even try to help her? How could TFW sit on her piles of cash while her sister wants to adopt a little girl and not help her.

I am surprised that she didn't suggest a 1 hour special about adopting this little girl.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Mel said... 132
One of the comments on Dr. Glass's latest blog post. Just sad. Makes you want to cry.

Dr. Glass, i wish you could come here to town and see these poor girls (and their siblings) in person. These are NOT happy children.
stef24 - January 21, 2014 at 7:36 pm

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That has the ring of truth. Very sad.

lukebandit said...

Warren Buffet is giving away 1 BILLION dollars for the perfect March Madness game bracket! If there is not one the Top 20 imperfect will win 100K each! I hope at least one of us on here wins the big one so we can help Robert get the book out! lol

http://msn.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/march-madness-indeed-buffett-gilbert-offering-up-1-billion-in-prize-money-for-perfection-012114

TFW, that book will be published, one way or another. It is meant to be!

Aunt Connie said...

I so, so enjoyed Admin's recap of CT. Funny, funny stuff! I DVR it so I am able just to buzz through the whole thing in about 10 minutes. But if I had known it was really such good entertainment, I might just have watched it in real time. Naaa, couldn't do it. But this recap was wonderful! Thanks, Admin!

Over In TFW's County said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 3m
@umadbro73 @Kateplusmy8 Because he loves 2engage N his roaming his property during day..Kate bought heated pad 4doghouse 4him 2warm himself.

When there is a heavy snow cover, and the windchill is twenty below zero, a heated pad does absolutely nothing. Milo wouldn't know this because temps in her area aren't the result of an arctic blast.

This is why my feline house guests are now back inside for at least the next few days. I opened my bed and breakfast this morning. So far they haven't requested concierge service.

I wonder if they know why they are being brought inside. I mean, can they sense that we're about to plunge into a deep freeze and a foot of snow is on the way? So far I haven't heard any complaints out of them.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Oh my gosh, Seattle! Milo just posted a picture and says she hates people who are two-faced! Read here much, Milo?

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LOL is right, Was this immediately after I posted?

Localyocul said...

Milo is defenssing Kate leaving Shoka outside sayin he's spoiled with a heated dog house. That dog better be inside it's 14 going down to 2 with a windchill advisory. We have at least 5 inches I snow since this morning and due to get 5-6 more.

Then there's this hah

@Vickivancouver: @theviewtv really? A standing ovation for Kate Gosselin? Do you beat the audience?

PA Dutch Mom said...

GosselinbookStTeam.. ‏@AlfredoCocozza 8m
@ashymama2 @MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 I even sent the clip from Kateplus8 to her. Its not a heated dog house.

Sometime shortly after they got the dog there were pictures taken from inside Kate's house that showed a dog house on the patio, I'm assuming that that she got a heated dog pad for inside the house. In sub-zero temps, however, it's not enough to keep a dog warm. The problem is that the dog has to come out sometime, and paws can freeze, ice can get between the paws, and there's a danger to the animal. You just don't keep a dog outside when it's this cold. There was a segment on one of the local news shows yesterday that all animals should be brought inside this week.

Anonymous said...

Let's see if Milo takes on Chelsea Handler. Chelsea would rip her a new one. I hope someone tweets the link to that video to Milo. (hint, hint)

PJ

Localyocul said...

Omg hahaha

@nswru1: @Kateplusmy8 Hi Kate, did you and the girls go on Chelsey Handler us Aussie fans get her out here but not the View or Today.

@Sarelya23: @nswru1 #Kateplusmy8 Here's the video: “@chelsealately: http://t.co/fbjbHI5jrl #ChelseaLately @HeatherMcDonald”

PA Dutch Mom said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 33m
@umadbro73 @Kateplusmy8 Not 2butt into convo..but Kate has said numerous times...Shoka sleeps inside at night. But he loves being outdoors!

She is such a hoot. "not to butt in," but does anyway, which is kind of what Kate said on Today when she said she didn't want to speak for the girls, but went right ahead and did just that.

Gladys just can't keep her nose out of anything!

PA Dutch Mom said...

Milo is defenssing Kate leaving Shoka outside sayin he's spoiled with a heated dog house. That dog better be inside it's 14 going down to 2 with a windchill advisory. We have at least 5 inches I snow since this morning and due to get 5-6 more.

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It's still coming down here, Local, and it looks like you'll be the last to see it exit! More forecast for Thursday, Saturday and Monday. I hate this. That dog has no business being outside except to do his 'business.'

PatK said...

Localyocul said... 185

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Bwahaha! That's hysterical!

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Hey, Milo! Since we know you read here, you need to tell Kate NOT to let Zorro ride around on shoulders, no matter how cute you or she thinks it is. She's going to learn the hard way, and stitches might be involved in the educational process.

Trust me. I know from experience.

Paula said...

One of the locals should call the authorities to check on Shoka. No pet should be out in this cold.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Oh my gosh, Seattle! Milo just posted a picture and says she hates people who are two-faced! Read here much, Milo?

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Sleepless In Seattle said... 181

LOL is right, Was this immediately after I posted?

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That's how it looks to me. Yours posted at 7:26 (EST) and Milo's at 7:38. Just long enough for Milo to read it and tweet: "I cannot stand two-faced disloyal people!"--linked to a drawing of a man with two faces and a forked tongue and no particular reference as to whom she means.

PA Dutch Mom said...

jellybean ‏@nswru1 11m
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 @Hollybm78 @LifeLimits Haven't be able to see it. We don't get the View or Today. Did Kate go on Chelsy, we get E?

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Go ahead, Milo, answer this tweet. I guess you could say, in a manner of speaking, that Kate was on Chelsea and removed Mady's braces.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 186
Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 33m
@umadbro73 @Kateplusmy8 Not 2butt into convo..but Kate has said numerous times...Shoka sleeps inside at night. But he loves being outdoors!

She is such a hoot. "not to butt in," but does anyway, which is kind of what Kate said on Today when she said she didn't want to speak for the girls, but went right ahead and did just that.

Gladys just can't keep her nose out of anything!

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Shutupshutupshutup! Hahaha. Ever since Admin posted that video, I keep hearing it when I read Milo.

Has TFW ever said Shoka slept inside at night? (I accidentally typed that as Milo sleeping inside at night, lol.)

Milo genuinely seems to be an animal lover, but her obsession with Kate is so much stronger. I'll bet if anyone else left a poor dog outside in sub-zero temperatures, Milo would be hootin and hollerin. It really is celebrity "worship"--worship is not too strong a word.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Much like human children dog children don't need a lot of stuff much less a heated dog house. They need your love and just want to be with you. Just like children.

I recently saw this on Facebook: An outside dog is an inside dog without a home.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Has TFW ever said Shoka slept inside at night? (I accidentally typed that as Milo sleeping inside at night, lol.)


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NO she has not. SHUTUPSHUT UP SHUT UPPPPPPP!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I think Milo is talking about Andy Cohen being two faced I bet. He had Kate on her show not too long ago I think during the elections. I mean he was his usual snarky self but he was okay to her to her face.

Poor poor Milo. Andy Cohen is two faced! LOL seriously Milo?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

LOL Aunt Connie you missed out not watching the whole thing!

Anyway glad you enjoyed it and thanks to everyone for your very kind comments on the recap. I have to say Duck Lips squared made this one roll right off the laptop.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Has TFW ever said Shoka slept inside at night? (I accidentally typed that as Milo sleeping inside at night, lol.)


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NO she has not. SHUTUPSHUT UP SHUT UPPPPPPP!

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LOL!

She kind of gets on a person's nerves, doesn't she? Sometimes, though, all you can do is laugh. Some of the names they have for her on Twitter are funny, especially when the non-fans have just about all they can take of her.

"(I accidentally typed that as Milo sleeping inside at night, lol.)"

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I guess when Kate's tired of seeing Gladys peering in through the windows she lets her inside! I almost typed that as "peeing" in through the windows.

I need a really good double shot of something. Anything will do. Doesn't have to be Rumspringa.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Because he loves 2engage N his roaming his property during day


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I'm surprised Milo doesn't know that for most dogs roaming off by themselves for such extensive periods is not healthy, normal, and it indicated a bored dog. It is also dangerous, as they could run into a hunter, get tangled up with a raccoon or other wildlife, hit by a car, eat something harmful or get caught in a trap or loose wire, or other dangers.

I assume Kate is a responsible pet owner who fixed Shoka, so there is no reason for him to roam to go courting.

Normal dog behavior is to want to be with their pack, not to roam aimlessly. Their pack is humans. Dogs are not loners. If their pack is roaming, they will roam. If their pack is inside watching Full House, they will be inside watching Full House. The bottom line is they want to be with the pack whatever the pack may be doing inside or outside.

According to this article and hundreds upon hundreds of others like it, dogs roam for three main reasons: looking for sex, boredom, or FEAR.

http://dogcare.dailypuppy.com/male-dog-roaming-behavior-1516.html

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