Tuesday, September 14, 2010

Ratings level out at a dismal 1.4 million

Despite desperate (and sometimes bizarre) attempts this week to drum up interest in Kate Plus 8, the ratings for Rough Ride remained almost as low as last week's episode:

Kate Plus 8
- 1.415 million viewers
- 1.0/2 HH
- 0.6/2 A18-49
via Travis Yanan

Just slightly higher than last week's episode, and lower than all the other episodes.

Kites: 1.389 million viewers, Big Apple: 1.613 million viewers, Home Roost: 2.229 million viewers, Kate Plus 8 premiere: 3.4 million viewers.


Bu-bye, Kate.

110 sediments (sic) from readers:

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Love the photo, Admin! (And those bazooms don't look too different from Kate's...)

Bodyguard my a$$ said...

I love the 'fat lady singing' picture. I also love that so many people held strong despite Kate's disgusting, insane, ravenous appetite for attention. All that work slamming Jon, shacking up with Purse Boy, and what did she get? Around 25,000 viewers who hate her even more now? What next, Kate? Naked strolls in the Target parking lot? It will be interesting to see. "How low can she go?"

emschick1128 said...

Great picture! Her boobs look just like Kate's The drama begins when the show gets cancelled. I can only imagine what she'll be saying while making the rounds of every media outlet

Who is watching the chickens said...

I expected a slight rise due to how much talk was going on about life vests and vomit. I think people wanted to see if it was all as bad as it sounded.

Michelle said...

$250,000 per episode for those ratings. Outstanding decision, TLC. Have they now learned tabloid interest does not translate to ratings?

Although IMO they're still way too high. I want to see under a million!

Karen said...

I don't understand why the viewership is still this high. Please, please vote with your remote. This vulgar, unethical, nasty show must end. Admin, thanks for all of your difficult work on this one.

Administrator said...

My prediction was it would go up slightly from all the hype this week, then when those new viewers realize what a clusterf-ck the show is, they will turn away in droves and that next week it will tank like nothing before.

H8K8 said...

Admin,
I know you're busy but your recaps are the greatest! Are you doing one for this episode?

Anonymous said...

To Kate from TLC - we'll be in to take out the lights.

Administrator said...

Thank you Moose I changed that to actually make sense lol.

By the way I don't think I've deleted one comment today. Where have all the cowboys gone?

Bodyguard my a$$ said...

Admin, I hope and pray that you are right. The trainwreck factor is all she has going for her. I'm sure the new viewers were completely repulsed. I will scream from the rooftop if she dips below a million. She's on her way. If she goes to all that work to try to hype it again this week, people will be very angry. I just hope Jon keeps his mouth shut or Hate will be crying on Meredith Viera's shoulder. Keep your head down and your nose clean, Jon.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

(My computer seemed not to post. I will try this again and hope it doesn't go on twice.

Posted on JibberJabbers' site:

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/kate-plus-eight/images/photos/kate-plus-8-106-3.jpg

This is a very disturbing photo for what it represents...a very thin little boy, lying alone and sick in a strange place, clearly not wanting to be there--with only the comfort of a young sister. They both know Mom's not coming.

I haven't seen this episode, but if the vomit scenes are as bad as everyone says, and if TLC purposely planned this trip expecting the seasickness of little children to be entertaining, then they, too, are sick--the kind of sick that doesn't end when the boat comes ashore.

Product Placement said...

Well these companies are still buying it…

Commercial Breaks:

Summit Entertainment (movie)
Santarus, Inc. (drugs)
Chevrolet / General Motors
Estée Lauder Inc.
Macy’s Inc.
Scripps Networks (HGTV)
Dish Network
Match.com
State Farm Mutual Automobile Insurance Company
Target Brands, Inc.
Sun Products Corporation (detergent)
David’s Bridal
Volkswagen of America, Inc.
IKEA Systems B.V.
Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.
Netflix, Inc.
Nintendo

Product Placement:

North Carolina Department of Commerce / Division of Tourism
Bald Head Island Limited & The Island Agency
Zondervan Corporation (Book)
Billabong
Maritime Market

There was quite a bit more PP in this episode, but I would have had to subject myself to more views and I had had enough.

Off to write some letters.

Lauren said...

That picture is hysterical. LOL!

Hippie Chick said...

What gets me is that it was probably the haters that were watching, just to see what she would do next. I don't want to sound like a jerk, but I'm sick of hearing "I watch to see if the kids are being abused" Well, sorry, but there's nothing we can do if they are. You KNOW they get treated like crap by The Psycho Queen, you know they will get degraded, put down & yelled at. You know Kate's boobs will be on full display, and she will do something and say something idiotic. It gets to me because you just know Kate probably loves the fact that her detractors are the ones who are watching the most.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand why the viewership is still this high.
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Unfortunately, TLC still knows how to draw some of us "haterz" in by releasing webisodes/previews that would rile us up i.e. life jackets and seasickness.

Some people just cannot turn away from this trainwreck. Whether it's two minutes or five (even just to verify how bad the situation really is), those still count towards the ratings.

In some ways the blogs are working against us, especially for the west coast viewers. You see a comment regarding the episode, then might want to check it out (when it airs later at 9pm) to see if it was really as bad as they say.

(Not sure how they add the ratings when the episode is shown simultaneously throughout the US, then again at 9pm for the west coast...do both count or just the first telecast?)

Who is watching the chickens said...

Michelle said...

$250,000 per episode for those ratings. Outstanding decision, TLC. Have they now learned tabloid interest does not translate to ratings?


I'm curious if she's paid the same amount whether it's an hour or a 1/2 hour episode?

Ellie said...

Is it on again next week? I thought they were supposed to be Specials. You know, once in a while.
Can't wait for the recap!!!

irene said...

Ding dong the brand is dead...well, okay not dead yet BUT this is kinda like that book tour turnout...Hype Hype...still some interest but people are onto the game going on here.

Hippie Chick said...

PS You know I love ya'll. :) ~Peace

singitthunderthighs said...

E! showed Kate and Steve in Cabo with a close-up and comment on Steve's ring-less finger. Perhaps the protection of Kate is over in the gossip shows. I hope so, this sow has lied to everyone, thrown her kids and Jon under the bus and is a home-wrecking narcissist, a shrew. 10 children deserved better.

K8SUCKS said...

Well, at least THIS woman really does have a good bra LOL

I agree Michelle - any increase is too much. Less than one million for next week please!

mary said...

I agree with Karen. The majority of viewers are supposed "haters". I went over to GWOP and was dismayed about how many of them tuned in (just for 2 minutes...right) She will keep her ratings as long as she remains this sick person.

I don't know how anyone can watch her.She makes my skin crawl. I also don't see why you would even want to watch the children. They are not all that. They have no talent whatsoever and the cute factor is long gone. Their lives are ruined and watching this trainwreck isn't helping them.

Dee said...

That photo is hilarious. It does look like her boobs-saggy and nasty-looking with big nipples hanging out. I was hoping the ratings would be lower. It is too bad she still had over 1 million viewers. I guess people still can't stop watching the train wreck.

Anon 1 said...

Administrator....does this picture mean "it ain't over til the fat lady sings?" LOL

Administrator said...

Kate Plus 8 airs at the same time for me on the West Coast as it does for the East Coast.

The smaller channels often don't have enough money to run a separate East Coast and West Coast "feed." Usually the smaller the cable channel the less likely it is to give us a later feed.

Administrator said...

And when I say the same time I mean it's on at 6pm for me and I guess 9pm on the east coast.

Anonymous said...

Virginia Pen Mom said... (My computer seemed not to post. I will try this again and hope it doesn't go on twice.

Posted on JibberJabbers' site:

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/kate-plus-eight/images/photos/kate-plus-8-106-3.jpg
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What boy? This is a picture of Kate turning her nose up, I assume at either the bait or a fish?

Doris said...

Mary said..."I don't know how anyone can watch her.She makes my skin crawl. I also don't see why you would even want to watch the children. They are not all that. They have no talent whatsoever and the cute factor is long gone. Their lives are ruined and watching this trainwreck isn't helping them."

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I totally agree...I do not see how anyone can stomach that woman. She is vile, disgusting and the kids are no longer cute. What is happening to them is beyond sad!!

Mary Ann said...

I am waiting for the recap. I have seen clips/promos. Is it my imagination or are the kids getting jaded? Saw some "bratty" stuff. Maybe the whole show dilutes the effect of the promos. I really think TLC is baiting us with negative bits. I have sympathy for her supporters. IF she is having an affair with Steve, I don't think all of them will be approving. It will be difficult for them to remain loyal. I remember when I switched sides from being a follower to being a critic. I felt guilty and then, moreso, I felt suckered.

Anon 1 said...

Hippie Chick said... What gets me is that it was probably the haters that were watching, just to see what she would do next.
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Not to mention, that some people are too 'dumb' to realize that when she made an ass of herself on R&K, it was TWO days before the show people...there isn't going to be anything on the show that relates to the R&K interview.

I do think the blogs are keeping up the hype, thus the nos. Unless everyone is willing to stop blogging about them, I think they'll be around for awhile. You KNOW TLC has some interns reading the blogs and 'scripting' and posting pics, stories, accordingly

wayward said...

Great news! I figured there might be a slight ratings increase because the vomiting children was just too tempting for some. What is most important is that the botoxed, fake boobed, leathery old hag *LOST* Little People Big World viewers, a show which has already been canceled. People changed the channel to not watch her.... as Steve would say "funtaastik!"

Bones said...

I think TLC would be vindictive enough to keep her on even if she only has 10 viewers, just to piss the haters off.

They can afford it.

I think that Eileen lady is spiteful enough to do that.

jibberjabbers said...

^ LOL. And I never directly link any image off of TLC>

AuntieAnn said...

"By the way I don't think I've deleted one comment today. Where have all the cowboys gone?"
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Well , maybe they're packing it in and coming on over. They might need a little down time to recoup their strength after realizing the supermom they've been idolizing is really a lying abusive nasty greedy narcissistic lazy sloth of a superslut grifter who shacked up over the weekend in another country with a married man. The shock hasn't worn off yet.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Hi Anonymous, sorry I picked up the wrong photo. Here's little Aaden.

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/kate-plus-eight/images/photos/kate-plus-8-106-4.jpg

Who is watching the chickens said...

Anonymous, I agree. I get the first showing at 6 pm because I'm on the West Coast. If I see something that's been posted and haven't seen the 6 pm showing, I've been tempted to watch the 9 pm showing to see if something really happened that way. So far, I've convinced myself to wait for a video because, like you, I don't know of the 9 pm viewers are counted in with the viewers and I don't want to take the chance.

Br prepared for a continual blitz of Kate news. When the show was monthly, we'd start getting bombarded with Kate news about 12-13 days before the episode. Now that it's weekly, we'll get bombarded daily, like we did this week.

Vote with your remote! Don't watch Kate.

bearswife said...

Can someone help me understand how the ratings are determined? I have always understood that the ratings were determined by a very small set of viewers and then that groups viewing habits were extrapolated to represent the viewing habits of the entire population. Isn't that how nielsen works?
I know I don't often post and I really don't want anyone to misinterpret my intentions ('cause I am SO not a sheeple), but unless any of us are signed up with Nielsen, does it really matter whether we watch or not?
I guess I am just feeling frustrated that Khate's ratings aren't tanking quick enough for my liking. Sometimes I wonder if that b$*ch will EVER go away...

Must Love Dogs said...

Well its still high, I read other post where people said they just flipped the channel cause they were curious...wth

fidosmommy said...

Let's not forget that last week was Labor Day and people had other things to do besides watch a TV show. This week wasn't a holiday, thus the viewership was up slightly.

If last week had not been a holiday, the ratings might have been higher, and this week's ratings would show a continuous slide...into oblivion....

The Lady is a Tramp said...

Ughhhhhhhhh - the picture of Khatan - gross!

The Lady is a Tramp said...

The one is Aaden is image #4.

Moose Mania said...

@Auntie Ann...They might need a little down time to recoup their strength after realizing the supermom they've been idolizing is really a lying abusive nasty greedy narcissistic lazy sloth of a superslut grifter who shacked up over the weekend in another country with a married man.

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Okay. Now tell us how you really feel!

Pam said...

bearswife said... Can someone help me understand how the ratings are determined? I have always understood that the ratings were determined by a very small set of viewers and then that groups viewing habits were extrapolated to represent the viewing habits of the entire population. Isn't that how nielsen works?
I know I don't often post and I really don't want anyone to misinterpret my intentions ('cause I am SO not a sheeple), but unless any of us are signed up with Nielsen, does it really matter whether we watch or not?
I guess I am just feeling frustrated that Khate's ratings aren't tanking quick enough for my liking. Sometimes I wonder if that b$*ch will EVER go away...

September 14, 2010 7:07 PM

Last month I was paid $5 to be a Neilson participant. They sent me booklets for each tv in my house and whatever we watched, we had to log it in the booklet and write down who watched it. If three people watched it, you had to list each person. One tv with 3 people watching counts as 3 viewers.

They explained to me that having people log what they watch and sending it back in is the only way to track what people are watching. HOWEVER, the booklet was mailed to me and began on a THURSDAY and sent back to them the following THURSDAY. This would not explain how the ratings for a Monday night show are released the very next day ( Tuesday ) on a website.

Anonymous said...

Next week is the big fall premiere week for most of the broadcasting networks. It also happens to be the last Kate Plus 8 episode listed (thus far), "School Time!" i.e. shoe/clothes shopping, hair cuts, possibly Kate's drop-off of first day of school, etc.

Ratings are already dismal, but will next week's episode pit against other season premieres be the nail in the coffin of this trainwreck? Is this TLC's excuse to Kate for why her show is (quietly) cancelled? (By quietly, I mean that TLC makes no announcement or special final episode i.e. Little People, Big World and Jon&Kate Plus 8.)

I haven't forgotten about the Alaska trip, but that's supposedly featured in Sarah Palin's show. Other than that, there hasn't been any tabloid evidence of filming the Gosselin kids beyond the Bald Head Island trip. Aren't their six month work permits about to expire anyway?

Us "haterz" must not fall for TLC's antics of shamelessly promoting the worst clips in previews/webisodes, just so we would curiously tune-in. 26,000 additional viewers tuned-in to watch evidence of life jackets and seasickness. Was it really worth it? Those viewers are hurting, not helping the Gosselin 8.

IT'S A CIRCLE JERK said...

Anon 1 said...I do think the blogs are keeping up the hype, thus the nos. Unless everyone is willing to stop blogging about them, I think they'll be around for awhile. You KNOW TLC has some interns reading the blogs and 'scripting' and posting pics, stories, accordingly
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I'm glad to see people are catching on. I'm seeing a lot of similar comments here and elsewhere finally. No blogging=no interest=no ratings=no Kate. We definitely have a way to make the ratings fall.

justme said...

Poor little Aaden,he looks so sick. Aaden was the little boy that was sick in an earlier episode.Two of the girl tups were fighting over who was going to take care of him.Poor kid, his sister came to comfort him again.

AuntieAnn said...

Moose Mania said...Okay. Now tell us how you really feel!
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lol...and that was my censored version.

Moose Mania said...

"Thank you Moose I changed that to actually make sense lol."

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Welcome. Anything to help the cause! I knew what you meant, but some (the sheeple, in particular) may have found it confusing! ;-) Then again, is there anything they understand?

AuntieAnn said...

Re: ratings
Pam,
That was my question too. Why do the ratings take a week to tally one week and the next week they're in overnight? Doesn't make any sense.

Administrator said...

The sheeple who have made it their life's work to bully other people about their grammar (because they can't refute us on the actual ISSUES), I always picture them as that Harry kid from the documentary Spellbound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5n_nMqH7CU

Good movie by the way.

Suzanne said...

The picture of Aaden made me sick, just sick. His hip bone and ribs are so very thin and protrude out of his body like a starving child in a third world country. Jesus, Mary, Joseph please help these children.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure this will be deleted but the ratings are polleded for people 18-49. Do you think no one over 49 watches TV? Will you all be happy when Kate is broke, living on welfare and Jon is living in a gutter! The Admin here is making money off the G's kids, but yet you support a person who is bring down a family, just saying, two wrongs don't make a right!! Go ahead and delete, but I saved it to show people that you delete anyone who disagrees with you. Now that is pathetic.

Administrator said...

No I don't delete anyone who disagrees with me. Your post broke rule 1, 2, 3, and 4, but since I haven't deleted a post all day I don't want to stop now. I've only deleted a few all week long.

As for the ratings only being for 18-49 (and therefore your implication it doesn't matter I suppose?), sorry to tell you people over 49 watch TV but actually, the advertisers don't care about them because the prevailing opinion is that anyone over 49 has already picked all their favorite products and no ad will ever convince them to change their laundry detergent. So in the advertising world, no one cares about the 49 plus group and would be meaningless even if six million of them were watching the show.

Shows that do really well with the older demographic, for instance a show like Promised Land in the 90's, are canned even though the ratings are great. Because everyone who was watching had already picked their laundry detergent.

Administrator said...

Anonymous said... I'm sure this will be deleted but the ratings are polleded for people 18-49. Do you think no one over 49 watches TV? Will you all be happy when Kate is broke, living on welfare and Jon is living in a gutter!
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The sheeple are losing it right along with Kate. Things are breaking down.

Moose Mania said...

"I'm sure this will be deleted but the ratings are polleded for people 18-49."

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Polleded? LOL!

You do realize, Admin, that "anonymous" is never going to understand a word about your explanation of demographics because she has no idea what the word means, and she is probably scratching her head asking, "is Kate changing her brand of laundry detergent?"

Moose Mania said...

Question: Someone referred to the video that shows Kate exhaling smoke rings of menthol freshness, and that it might soon be edited out. Does anyone have a link to the video? Thanks much...

Moose Mania said...

Anonymous said...Will you all be happy when Kate is broke, living on welfare and Jon is living in a gutter!

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Admin., tell me something. You deal with sheeple on a regular basis. Are they all like this? Totally without any ability to put two and two together and figure that if Kate were to save and invest the $250,000 per episode she is earning rather than spending it like a drunken sailor, she wouldn't be broke and on welfare?

IATK said...

Anonymous said...
I'm sure this will be deleted but the ratings are polleded for people 18-49. Do you think no one over 49 watches TV? Will you all be happy when Kate is broke, living on welfare and Jon is living in a gutter! The Admin here is making money off the G's kids, but yet you support a person who is bring down a family, just saying, two wrongs don't make a right!! Go ahead and delete, but I saved it to show people that you delete anyone who disagrees with you. Now that is pathetic.

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I can only speak for myself, but nothing would make me happier than to be wrong about Kate and what she is doing to her children...making them work to provide her with the life style she feels she so richly deserves because she is such a "rare" mother and so much better than the rest of us. Spin it all you want but in the end there is nothing right about that.

I also think you're giving Admin and the rest of us way too much credit when you say we can "bring down a family". Kate already did that when she asked Jon for a divorce, and now spends part of her time on national TV being calculating, spiteful and accusatory towards him. Shame on her for what she is doing to her children and to their father. I'd say Kate is doing a pretty good job on her own bringing down her family.

prairiemary said...

Anonymous-Why would kate ever come close to being broke and in the gutter?? She has made millions off of her babies!! It is going to be those 8 kids who will be broke, not their user-mother!! Give your head a good shake, before you go off on here, how many more millions does she need to steal from those babies, before she has made enough?? Man, that kind of thinking really pisses me off.

prairiemary said...

Admin., as if you don't have enough to do, but I really do think that you need to post an entire, detailed explanation about how viewers are counted, with the new digital age we are in, it looks like people think we are still counted just with Neilson ratings, and think if they switch over for "just a minute", that that minute will not be counted. Please, this needs to be explained! Thanks for the fantastic job you do, and all the time you put into this blog!

Administrator said...

Yes all sheeple are like this.

There is absolutely no reason, none, that after FIVE YEARS count them five years of doing this show, she shouldn't have enough stocked away in the bank to live a very comfortable lifestyle until the children are 18.

And when I say comfortable I don't mean jetting off to Cabo on the weekend. Kate wants the Cabo lifestyle and because of that she's go to keep exploiting the kids to keep up with it.

Pam said...

AuntieAnn said... Re: ratings
Pam,
That was my question too. Why do the ratings take a week to tally one week and the next week they're in overnight? Doesn't make any sense.

September 14, 2010 8:56 PM



I found this on Wikipedia......

Nielsen television ratings are gathered in one of two ways:

1.Viewer "diaries", in which a target audience self-records its viewing or listening habits. By targeting various demographics, the assembled statistical models provide a rendering of the audiences of any given show, network, and programming hour.


2.A more technologically sophisticated system uses Set Meters, which are small devices connected to televisions in selected homes. These devices gather the viewing habits of the home and transmit the information nightly to Nielsen through a "Home Unit" connected to a phone line. The technology-based home unit system is meant to allow market researchers to study television viewing habits on a minute to minute basis, seeing the exact moment viewers change channels or turn off their TV. In addition to set meters, individual viewer reporting devices, such as people meters, have allowed the company to separate household viewing information into various demographic groups, but so far Nielsen has refused to change its distribution of data of ethnic groups into subgroups, which could give more targeted information to networks and advertisers.

Changing systems of viewing have impacted Nielsen's methods of market research. In 2005, Nielsen began measuring the usage of digital video recordings such as TiVo. Initial results indicate that time-shifted viewing will have a significant impact on television ratings. The networks are not yet figuring these new results into their ad rates at the resistance of advertisers.[1]




It also said that when you are paid to fill out a Tv viewing diary for a week, that is only used during sweeps months. I did it for the end of July. I think sweeps months are February, May, July and September. The rest of the time they rely on the set meters that are connected to tv and transmitted through a phone line. My hubby is phone man ( Hey baby I'm your telephone man...Tell me where ya want it, I can put it where I can ), sorry about that, and he said he occassionally sees these set meters hooked up to the home's phone lines. He doesn't see many, though.



I have to say, I took great pleasure in not listing one single TLC program when I did my tv diary for a week. Notta one. I also commented in the section in the back where the ask for your opinions about programming. I blasted networks that exploit children on reality shows.

But I think it's safe to say, if you don't have one of these set meters attached to your tv and phone line, what you watch isn't counted.

Administrator said...

prairiemary said... Admin., as if you don't have enough to do, but I really do think that you need to post an entire, detailed explanation about how viewers are counted
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I don't know for sure how ratings are counted to explain it. I've read conflicting reports.

Administrator said...

I also think you're giving Admin and the rest of us way too much credit when you say we can "bring down a family". Kate already did that
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Kate is a grown woman who doesn't need the sheeple defend her nor should she be concerned about some little blog bringing her down. The sheeple are mad because they want someone to blame for Kate's complete screw ups this week and more. We didn't make Kate say all those things to throw Jon under the bus. We didn't make Kate go to Cabo with her boyfriend. And we certainly didn't make her film her kids while they were vomiting. KATE did this herself without anyone's help. They are trying to blame us for Kate's own screw ups.

Kate is bringing herself down not us, just like so many of you predicted.

NCgirl said...

"It gets to me because you just know Kate probably loves the fact that her detractors are the ones who are watching the most."

That's one of the reasons I stopped watching. I watched most of J&K plus 8. On a show after the separation, to paraphrase, Kate said she didn't care if you loved or hated her as long as you watched. Naturally, I'm not going to do what that witch wants. I haven't watched any of Kate plus 8. Not in repeats, not on youtube. Can't even stand to see the commercials.

Pam said...

I also want to add about the ratings

Neilson has 25,000 homes with these Set Meters attached to the Neilson families TV's at any given time. They have figured there are 99 million tvs in the US. Somehow they calculate how many of the 25,000 watched a program and figure that for 99 million tv's....whatever that mathematical equation would be...to get a final ratings number.

TiVo and DVR's are being used to see what people are watching, but are not being counted ( yet ) in ratings numbers. Looks like one day they will be, but not anytime soon.


On another note, I wonder if admin's explanation of the 18-49 age demographic is the reason these older soap operas that have been on for decades and being cancelled one by one. The audience just got too old and not enough young un's were watching those. I know sooooo many little old ladies who watched Guiding Light and As The World Turns who are so upset that they are cancelled. They don't understand why.

Anonymous said...

I really have to shake my head how you all figure Kate has millions. Never have you seen any contract that Jon and Kate signed for the show, you just took Jon's word for everything. Can you imagine the bills for 8 kids over the next 10 years. Also Kate had huge lawyer bills that were incurred from Jon pulling his stunts, but I get the feeling many of you here have never had to pay a lawyer for what someone else has done. I have owned several business over the years, and after you pay taxes, payroll, invest back into a business, there is not much left. At one time Kate and Jon had two house paments, with all the up keep of both. I love the way you say if she would invest, look at the markets, nothing is making money. I for one, will always support a working Mom with children,no matter what her job is. If it's Tv work, so be it. I raised strong daughters and now they are in the business world and have help in their homes. I would never suggest to them to not move forward and continue to work and travel all over the world for their business. I'm not a Kate lover or a Jon lover, I see two parents who went their separate ways, happens everyday. My church family would have stepped up to help any family in need, whether it be a family of 2 or 10. Some people can't move on, and that's ok, but the world will move on without them.

Administrator said...

No one said Kate has millions. We said she SHOULD have enough to raise the kids until they are 18. Your position is 250,000 an episode is not enough to raise a big family on? This number was not reported by Jon. Jon hasn't said anything about Kate in months except that she needs help. If TLC never knocked on the door how do you think Kate would be raising her children now? The same way she did before, working a job like the rest of America.

If Kate has no money why is she going to Cabo? If you admit that was an Emmy freebie, she is still required by law to pay taxes on it. Where is that money coming from? Oh right the kids. Why doesn't she stop screwing around in Cabo and put the money in a bank account instead if she's so broke?

This was a quickie divorce, over in less than six months. It didn't even go to trial. Divorce can be expensive, but not 250k an episode expensive.

Administrator said...

I for one, will always support a working Mom with children,no matter what her job is. If it's Tv work, so be it. I raised strong daughters and now they are in the business world and have help in their homes. I would never suggest to them to not move forward and continue to work and travel all over the world for their business.
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As for always supporting a working mother, you would support a mother who prostitutes herself? That's working. How about a mother who sells drugs to pay for diapers? Not all jobs are morally right and Kate pimping out her kids is one of those jobs that is not right.

Do your adult children pimp out their kids at work? I don't think so. No one objects to Kate working. People object to Kate's KIDS working. The idea here is we want Kate to work and earn the money, not the children. Preferably in the same town as her kids. In PA. With her kids. Like every other mother there.

Administrator said...

I have help in my home. I work my butt off to afford that luxury. What's Kate done? She's worked her children's butts' off.

Do not turn this into we object to Kate because she works, because many of us are working women.

dee3 said...

Anonymous~
Kate has already made WAY more than you will ever make....in fact, WAY more than most of us will ever make. So by your assessment, that would mean that ALL of us end up on welfare and live in the gutter. The fact is that you and I would end up on welfare and have to live in the gutter WAY earlier than Kate + 8 ever would. WHY would you defend her?

Do you not comprehend math? She has already made a small fortune....enough to live comfortably for the rest of her life and to support her children. Jon pays her about 20,000 per month in child support...do YOU know anyone else who is getting that kind of money for child support?

Why in the world would you defend a woman who is living a life of luxury....much more luxurious than you and I will ever get to experience? And all at the expense of her children...and at the expense of their privacy and dignity.

Would you want YOUR children picked apart and criticized all over the internet? For the rest of their lives? Would that be okay for YOUR children? But perhaps you are 15 and don't have any children yet. At the very least, you need to hone your math skills.

Starz22 said...

I agree with the poster who said to make a real simple spot to put the lies kate has been caught in.Keep it short and sweet...Like...

On this date kate said bla bla bla...and then on this date kate said bla bla bla.

This is something everyone could help with...that way the Admin isnt stuck doing all the work.
Kate needs to be called out on all her BS.No one could say it was made up...it would be kates own words biting her in the ass.Not even the sheeple could spin this crap into gold.

prairiemary said...

I give up! Sheeples are called Sheeples for a very good reason-they are all just blind,ignorant,stupid Sheeples! They just see no problem working 8 kids to the bone! And I am sorry, but with the money from the dancing-fiasco, along with 250,000 per episode, a woman would have to have a pea brain to not be able to raise 8 kids on that.She gets so many freebies, what the hell does she spend their money on? Oh,yeah-HERSELF!!

Lauren said...

I don't watch the show and haven't since 2008.

To put things into perspective, I dug up some population data.

Total population in the United States is 307,006,550 Million.
Ratings for Kate+8 were 1.4 Million

So 305,606,550 Million people didn't watch the show...
LOL..

It's a big country.

JudyK said...

No one has to worry about Kate being homeless. By her own admission, she is a great catch: She herself said she's RICH, in great shape, good-looking, etc. The articles were several weeks ago, and I don't have the energy or interest to dig them up again, but they are easily Googled.

acertaingirl said...

Kate doesn't want to "live comfortably", she wants to be "A STAAAR"! She wants to continue her "traditions" of vacation after vacation (gratis of course), while getting paid big $$.

I literally gasped out loud when I saw how sickly skinny little Aaden is - those kids need more food!

I

Paula said...

I have not read all of the comments, so this may have been posted, so sorry if I'm repeating something. While she had a few more total viewers, just looking at the 0.6 share of the 18-49 group (you know the ones the advertisers really care about), this was the same as last week. She did not grow this group at all.

Anonymous said...

I really have to shake my head how you all figure Kate has millions. Never have you seen any contract that Jon and Kate signed for the show, you just took Jon's word for everything. Can you imagine the bills for 8 kids over the next 10 years. Also Kate had huge lawyer bills that were incurred from Jon pulling his stunts, but I get the feeling many of you here have never had to pay a lawyer for what someone else has done. I have owned several business over the years, and after you pay taxes, payroll, invest back into a business, there is not much left. At one time Kate and Jon had two house paments, with all the up keep of both. I love the way you say if she would invest, look at the markets, nothing is making money. I for one, will always support a working Mom with children,no matter what her job is. If it's Tv work, so be it. I raised strong daughters and now they are in the business world and have help in their homes. I would never suggest to them to not move forward and continue to work and travel all over the world for their business. I'm not a Kate lover or a Jon lover, I see two parents who went their separate ways, happens everyday. My church family would have stepped up to help any family in need, whether it be a family of 2 or 10. Some people can't move on, and that's ok, but the world will move on without them.

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Well anonymous, my father raised 10 kids on a heck of a lot less money.

As for investing: I don't think it's a stretch to say she's made more than 1 million dollars in the past few years. There are investments out there that would pay $42,000 per year without touching the initial investment. That, in addition to a regular job should be enough for nine people. As for having to pay two mortgages, whose fault is that? They could have stayed in the house they had.
BTW a church family did step up to help the Gosselins. As a matter of fact it was HER family's church. But it is well documented that the donations weren't good enough for her. She wanted cash, she wanted matchy-poo-poo for all things concerning the tups. Imagine how her father felt when he had to tell her congregation that their love offerings weren't good enough. If Kate were in need today I'm sure good people would step in again, but it would be to keep the kids safe and let them have a normal childhood. If I thought sending money to Kate would get those kids off of tv I'd do it in a heartbeat.

BeckyM said...

I have no problem with KHATE working... but I want the kids off from filming. Nothing prohibits her going from talk show to talk show or reality show to reality show earning a paycheck with whatever special skills she has (NONE).

I agree with the other poster -next week the regular network shows start and I expect ratings to sink even lower.

wayward said...

Anonymous said: "I for one, will always support a working Mom with children,no matter what her job is. If it's Tv work, so be it. I raised strong daughters and now they are in the business world and have help in their homes. I would never suggest to them to not move forward and continue to work and travel all over the world for their business."
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I will always support a working Mom, too. I will not support working children, especially children who have been the subject of a reality show for 3/4 of their lives. Which just happens to fall in the grey area of PA's child entertainment regulations, causing a new PA house bill to be introduced. When the day comes that Kate can actually hold her own in the entertainment industry without *ever* having her children be filmed, I will support Kate as a working mother.
To hold her up as a shining example as a strong, self sufficient, single mother is an outright insult to REAL strong, self sufficient single mothers. Such as Joy Mangano, the inventer the Miracle Mop and the padded hangers to name a few. 20 yrs. ago she was a broke divorced mother of young kids. She did not invite TV cameras into her home to film her children at their most private and vunerable moments, instead she had some of her ideas patented and is now the CEO of a company grossing $100 million dollars a year.
As far as "Jon's stunts", Admin is correct, what stunts would those be? They were divorced in the blink of an eye. Jon made some very poor choices last year but those did not contribute to Kate's legal bills.
Lastly, spare us your way overused Kate defender excuse "can you imagine the bills for 8 kids over the next 10 years?" When you people say that, what you are really saying is "do you know what it will cost for Kate to maintain the lifestyle she feels she is entitled to for the next 15 years?" Because I know people with large familes who make $100,000 year and have a stay at home mom, the kids all have the newest clothes, go on trips to Disney, have the latest gadgets, go to many sports camps etc. Large familes can live very well on a mere fraction of what Kate makes. Kate is not satisfied with just living well, by overpaying for her mansion and her insistence on being waited on hand and foot, she has created a lifestyle for herself she will not be able to maintain if her "career" fails to pan out.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

1.415 million viewers

Not low enough.

I'll be very happy when I see that only 7 viewers tuned in.

I am proud to say that I did not, and will not EVER tune in to see Kate's child abuse.

Seriously, I think the "so-called Haters" are the ones keeping Katie Munster's ratings up.

At this point, I doubt her fan base is going to grow any further. So, guess who is keeping her around? Curious people waiting to see her say or do something horrible, people that "accidentally" stumbled onto TLC when changing the channels, folks that (out of morbid curiousity) head to YouTube the next day, or people that decide to tune in for the midnight showing...

IT'S US (not the administrator, of course, and the ones that won't watch)- and you know what, she's counting on it!

**The more outrageous she is, the more the desenters will want to tune in so that we can rip her apart on the blogs- and that equals ratings!!!**

I'm starting to wonder about the folks that are obviously upset with Kate, yet end up watching anyway. Look, we live in America- land of the free (thank God). If you want to watch the show-watch it! If you don't like what she is doing to her kids- don't watch it. But this indecision keeps the monster inflated and employed.

Take a stand to protect the Gosselin 8!

TLC stinks said...

The show would dip below a million if those bloggers who watch, you know, the ones who were just flipping channels, etc. would just stop. This drives me crazy. People who watch are fans whether a Kate hater or not. This is why TLC keeps her on the air. She gets the best of both worlds watching. Not so many on this blog watch, but geez, others do. And remember that we are much more tech savvy than you may believe, and with everything digital, companies sell data which may explain the overnight numbers posting so quickly. There is the ability to know what every household watches.

Kate is the walrus said...

Anonymous, yes, at one time Jon and Kate did have two house payments to make...and who's fault was that? Theirs, and I'll bet, hers with him agreeing just to keep the peace. 'Mine, all mine' somehow just sounds like Kate was the force behind buying the unnecessary Orphanage. It is this home, plus Kate's other extravagances (chef, nannies/plural, gardeners, unnecessary bodyguard (why does she only need protection sometimes if she's in danger?), private school for 8, tens to hundreds of thousand dollars' worth of plastic surgery, new whorish outfit nearly every time she calls the lone pap, etc) that have put the gosselins in unnecessary financial peril. When she cried that she couldn't pay her bills, she meant that she was unwilling to cut out all the stuff and needed money to keep it up. In addition, the etown house languished on the market for months because greedy Kate was unwilling to lower the price to current market value and was too lazy or too cheap to clean it up enough to make it appealing to buyers. No one is bashing working moms, most of us are working moms. We are sick of kate's indulging herself using money made by filming the kids in misery, being mistreated, puking, and dragged on the most miserable trips with a camera hog mom. She should be able to raise those kids, maybe even in that tacky Orphanage and in that private school, but not if she continues spending money on herself or to care for those kids she never had the resources to support until tlc came along. Don't insult working moms who have help or not. Kate doesn't have a steady job, she does not take care of her own kids, and pretends jon and the nannies don't do the majority of the childcare.

Paula said...

"Little People, Big World" had more viewers at 1.6 million.

Barbara said...

You've all said so well everything I think about this situation. The sheeple will never change, they see her as the Queen and they worship at her feet. Too bad, too sad that they don't even for a moment consider what is happening to the kids. All for their viewing entertainment. Entertainment? I haven't watched at all this year and will never watch again. Can someone please explain to me how watching young children barf be entertaining? How watching their little faces while they are so sick entertaining? How watching Kate add -ish to every word entertaining? The sheeple can say what they want but it is VERY telling that when they went out to eat with Jamie and Kate that Jamie had to forcefully make some of them go to Kate's table. No one wanted to sit with her. Kinda reminds you of the little train trip at the Zoo when no one wanted to sit in the seat with Kate. BUT, it is very important to remember that the sheeple need their entertainment.

Anonymous said...

Virginia Pen Mom said...

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/kate-plus-eight/images/photos/kate-plus-8-106-3.jpg

This is a very disturbing photo for what it represents...a very thin little boy, lying alone and sick in a strange place, clearly not wanting to be there--with only the comfort of a young sister. They both know Mom's not coming.

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The link doesn't show the picture anymore. TLC is tryin to cover this up!!!

Anonymous said...

RE: Aaden pic for "A Rough Ride"

The link doesn't show the picture anymore. TLC is tryin to cover this up!!!
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I think it was mentioned somewhere upthread that it was an incorrect link. There's no cover up.

Here's the correct link:
http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/kate-plus-eight/images/photos/kate-plus-8-106-4.jpg

Gosselin Gossip said...

"TLC Bests the Competition With the Most New and Returning Hit Series In Summer 2010"

Here's some of what was said:
TLC's "TLC Summer" had 17 series averaging 1.1M P2+ or more, more than any other network.

Kate Plus 8 averaged solid 2.9 million viewers
(highest average among all 17 TLC shows)

Lowest shows averaged 1.1. million viewers

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/09/15/tlc-bests-the-competition-with-the-most-new-and-returning-hit-series-in-summer-2010/63594

(Of those 17 mentioned, TLC also renewed some of them (in separate release). Missing from that media release was any mention of a renewal on Kate Plus 8.)

Lorrie said...

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

"...folks that (out of morbid curiousity) head to YouTube the next day..."
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Have always wondered if watching on YouTube contributes to the ratings. Any insight would be appreciated.

Lorrie said...

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... "...folks that (out of morbid curiousity) head to YouTube the next day..."
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Always wondered if watching on YouTube contributed to the ratings. Any insight would be appreciated.

Anonymous said...

Everything about the Gosselins is disgusting! Is anyone actually watching this show?

Anonymous said...

I really have to shake my head how you all figure Kate has millions. Never have you seen any contract that Jon and Kate signed for the show, you just took Jon's word for everything. Can you imagine the bills for 8 kids over the next 10 years. Also Kate had huge lawyer bills that were incurred from Jon pulling his stunts, but I get the feeling many of you here have never had to pay a lawyer for what someone else has done. I have owned several business over the years, and after you pay taxes, payroll, invest back into a business, there is not much left. At one time Kate and Jon had two house paments, with all the up keep of both. I love the way you say if she would invest, look at the markets, nothing is making money. I for one, will always support a working Mom with children,no matter what her job is. If it's Tv work, so be it. I raised strong daughters and now they are in the business world and have help in their homes. I would never suggest to them to not move forward and continue to work and travel all over the world for their business. I'm not a Kate lover or a Jon lover, I see two parents who went their separate ways, happens everyday. My church family would have stepped up to help any family in need, whether it be a family of 2 or 10. Some people can't move on, and that's ok, but the world will move on without them.

8888888888888888888888888888888
Well anonymous, my father raised 10 kids on a heck of a lot less money.

As for investing: I don't think it's a stretch to say she's made more than 1 million dollars in the past few years. There are investments out there that would pay $42,000 per year without touching the initial investment. That, in addition to a regular job should be enough for nine people. As for having to pay two mortgages, whose fault is that? They could have stayed in the house they had.
BTW a church family did step up to help the Gosselins. As a matter of fact it was HER family's church. But it is well documented that the donations weren't good enough for her. She wanted cash, she wanted matchy-poo-poo for all things concerning the tups. Imagine how her father felt when he had to tell her congregation that their love offerings weren't good enough. If Kate were in need today I'm sure good people would step in again, but it would be to keep the kids safe and let them have a normal childhood. If I thought sending money to Kate would get those kids off of tv I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Starz22 said...

I agree with the poster who said to make a real simple spot to put the lies kate has been caught in.Keep it short and sweet...Like...

On this date kate said bla bla bla...and then on this date kate said bla bla bla.

This is something everyone could help with...that way the Admin isnt stuck doing all the work.
Kate needs to be called out on all her BS.No one could say it was made up...it would be kates own words biting her in the ass.Not even the sheeple could spin this crap into gold.

Administrator said...

No one said Kate has millions. We said she SHOULD have enough to raise the kids until they are 18. Your position is 250,000 an episode is not enough to raise a big family on? This number was not reported by Jon. Jon hasn't said anything about Kate in months except that she needs help. If TLC never knocked on the door how do you think Kate would be raising her children now? The same way she did before, working a job like the rest of America.

If Kate has no money why is she going to Cabo? If you admit that was an Emmy freebie, she is still required by law to pay taxes on it. Where is that money coming from? Oh right the kids. Why doesn't she stop screwing around in Cabo and put the money in a bank account instead if she's so broke?

This was a quickie divorce, over in less than six months. It didn't even go to trial. Divorce can be expensive, but not 250k an episode expensive.

Pam said...

AuntieAnn said... Re: ratings
Pam,
That was my question too. Why do the ratings take a week to tally one week and the next week they're in overnight? Doesn't make any sense.

September 14, 2010 8:56 PM



I found this on Wikipedia......

Nielsen television ratings are gathered in one of two ways:

1.Viewer "diaries", in which a target audience self-records its viewing or listening habits. By targeting various demographics, the assembled statistical models provide a rendering of the audiences of any given show, network, and programming hour.


2.A more technologically sophisticated system uses Set Meters, which are small devices connected to televisions in selected homes. These devices gather the viewing habits of the home and transmit the information nightly to Nielsen through a "Home Unit" connected to a phone line. The technology-based home unit system is meant to allow market researchers to study television viewing habits on a minute to minute basis, seeing the exact moment viewers change channels or turn off their TV. In addition to set meters, individual viewer reporting devices, such as people meters, have allowed the company to separate household viewing information into various demographic groups, but so far Nielsen has refused to change its distribution of data of ethnic groups into subgroups, which could give more targeted information to networks and advertisers.

Changing systems of viewing have impacted Nielsen's methods of market research. In 2005, Nielsen began measuring the usage of digital video recordings such as TiVo. Initial results indicate that time-shifted viewing will have a significant impact on television ratings. The networks are not yet figuring these new results into their ad rates at the resistance of advertisers.[1]




It also said that when you are paid to fill out a Tv viewing diary for a week, that is only used during sweeps months. I did it for the end of July. I think sweeps months are February, May, July and September. The rest of the time they rely on the set meters that are connected to tv and transmitted through a phone line. My hubby is phone man ( Hey baby I'm your telephone man...Tell me where ya want it, I can put it where I can ), sorry about that, and he said he occassionally sees these set meters hooked up to the home's phone lines. He doesn't see many, though.



I have to say, I took great pleasure in not listing one single TLC program when I did my tv diary for a week. Notta one. I also commented in the section in the back where the ask for your opinions about programming. I blasted networks that exploit children on reality shows.

But I think it's safe to say, if you don't have one of these set meters attached to your tv and phone line, what you watch isn't counted.

Who is watching the chickens said...

Anonymous, I agree. I get the first showing at 6 pm because I'm on the West Coast. If I see something that's been posted and haven't seen the 6 pm showing, I've been tempted to watch the 9 pm showing to see if something really happened that way. So far, I've convinced myself to wait for a video because, like you, I don't know of the 9 pm viewers are counted in with the viewers and I don't want to take the chance.

Br prepared for a continual blitz of Kate news. When the show was monthly, we'd start getting bombarded with Kate news about 12-13 days before the episode. Now that it's weekly, we'll get bombarded daily, like we did this week.

Vote with your remote! Don't watch Kate.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Hi Anonymous, sorry I picked up the wrong photo. Here's little Aaden.

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/kate-plus-eight/images/photos/kate-plus-8-106-4.jpg

Anonymous said...

I really have to shake my head how you all figure Kate has millions. Never have you seen any contract that Jon and Kate signed for the show, you just took Jon's word for everything. Can you imagine the bills for 8 kids over the next 10 years. Also Kate had huge lawyer bills that were incurred from Jon pulling his stunts, but I get the feeling many of you here have never had to pay a lawyer for what someone else has done. I have owned several business over the years, and after you pay taxes, payroll, invest back into a business, there is not much left. At one time Kate and Jon had two house paments, with all the up keep of both. I love the way you say if she would invest, look at the markets, nothing is making money. I for one, will always support a working Mom with children,no matter what her job is. If it's Tv work, so be it. I raised strong daughters and now they are in the business world and have help in their homes. I would never suggest to them to not move forward and continue to work and travel all over the world for their business. I'm not a Kate lover or a Jon lover, I see two parents who went their separate ways, happens everyday. My church family would have stepped up to help any family in need, whether it be a family of 2 or 10. Some people can't move on, and that's ok, but the world will move on without them.

Anon 1 said...

Hippie Chick said... What gets me is that it was probably the haters that were watching, just to see what she would do next.
~~~
Not to mention, that some people are too 'dumb' to realize that when she made an ass of herself on R&K, it was TWO days before the show people...there isn't going to be anything on the show that relates to the R&K interview.

I do think the blogs are keeping up the hype, thus the nos. Unless everyone is willing to stop blogging about them, I think they'll be around for awhile. You KNOW TLC has some interns reading the blogs and 'scripting' and posting pics, stories, accordingly

Doris said...

Mary said..."I don't know how anyone can watch her.She makes my skin crawl. I also don't see why you would even want to watch the children. They are not all that. They have no talent whatsoever and the cute factor is long gone. Their lives are ruined and watching this trainwreck isn't helping them."

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I totally agree...I do not see how anyone can stomach that woman. She is vile, disgusting and the kids are no longer cute. What is happening to them is beyond sad!!

Administrator said...

Kate Plus 8 airs at the same time for me on the West Coast as it does for the East Coast.

The smaller channels often don't have enough money to run a separate East Coast and West Coast "feed." Usually the smaller the cable channel the less likely it is to give us a later feed.

Dee said...

That photo is hilarious. It does look like her boobs-saggy and nasty-looking with big nipples hanging out. I was hoping the ratings would be lower. It is too bad she still had over 1 million viewers. I guess people still can't stop watching the train wreck.

singitthunderthighs said...

E! showed Kate and Steve in Cabo with a close-up and comment on Steve's ring-less finger. Perhaps the protection of Kate is over in the gossip shows. I hope so, this sow has lied to everyone, thrown her kids and Jon under the bus and is a home-wrecking narcissist, a shrew. 10 children deserved better.

irene said...

Ding dong the brand is dead...well, okay not dead yet BUT this is kinda like that book tour turnout...Hype Hype...still some interest but people are onto the game going on here.

Who is watching the chickens said...

Michelle said...

$250,000 per episode for those ratings. Outstanding decision, TLC. Have they now learned tabloid interest does not translate to ratings?


I'm curious if she's paid the same amount whether it's an hour or a 1/2 hour episode?

Lauren said...

That picture is hysterical. LOL!

Administrator said...

My prediction was it would go up slightly from all the hype this week, then when those new viewers realize what a clusterf-ck the show is, they will turn away in droves and that next week it will tank like nothing before.

Who is watching the chickens said...

I expected a slight rise due to how much talk was going on about life vests and vomit. I think people wanted to see if it was all as bad as it sounded.

Bodyguard my a$$ said...

I love the 'fat lady singing' picture. I also love that so many people held strong despite Kate's disgusting, insane, ravenous appetite for attention. All that work slamming Jon, shacking up with Purse Boy, and what did she get? Around 25,000 viewers who hate her even more now? What next, Kate? Naked strolls in the Target parking lot? It will be interesting to see. "How low can she go?"

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