Jon and his girlfriend Liz are on the popular VH1 reality show tonight. Check local listings.
Thursday, January 2, 2014
Discussion Thread: Couples Therapy episode 1, 'Therapy Begins'
Jon and his girlfriend Liz are on the popular VH1 reality show tonight. Check local listings.
968 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 801 – 968 of 968 Newer› Newest»This blog definitely favors Jon a bit more, and for a good reason; he's managed to build up good will over the past couple of years, while Kate has been unrelenting in her quest to continue to use her children to make money on tv. She's said time and time again that she wants to pick up where K+8 left off, and I think that's what makes us smack our collective foreheads.
She has ZERO introspection and apparently, work ethic.
Jon's good will is not going to last forever and it remains to be seen what more antics CT will bring.
This has been a recent turn of events, so we'll see what happens.
I'd also like to point out, again, that there is no evidence or reason to even fathom that Jon physically hurt his children. Ever. So, you can see where this contempt for Kate stems from, at least partially.
Oh dear. Kate will make you buy the book. Just open a couple of cans of Puritan Beef Stew and call it a day.
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Do they still make Dinty Moore beef stew? It looked like wet dog food, but as a very young bride, husband and I lived on that stuff. We survived, but I'd never want to see it again.
lisa cairncross @peterandrefan98 1h
@Kateplusmy8 ur pizza recipe does the bread have to be made in a bread maker
Here we go again with the pizza crust and the bread maker. Geez...what is WITH these people? Wouldn't you be embarrassed to ask such a stupid question? Guess not...
handinhand 182 I may have misunderstood your point. If so I apologize and would like to offer a different perspective than in my previous comment.
Speaking on for myself, I think Jon provides these children's best hope of growing up and coping in the real world they will face. When he does something cringe worthy, it sets off more alarms
than TWFs behavior which has been consistently shrewish.
I do give TFW credit for their school/education, which, however, they earned the money for.
Some of you may have already figured it out, but Ex-Nurse posts under several different names here - the style, the wording is almost identical. He/she is obsessed with trying to convince us Jon is the devil incarnate. I mean really, the "peeing" was discussed ad-nauseum on a previous thread.
Tweet Le dee, didn't you like the pissing contest?
Ducking and running, couldn't resist! 194
Run faster Joy, I'm with Tweetle. : )
I think Ex-Nurse brought it up again. I also think that it's been pi$$ed to death here! LOL!
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I'd like to *express* myself and say that I'd be *relieved* if we didn't *wade* into that topic once again. I mean, I don't know about you all, but I'm just about to *burst*.
*David Copperfield, 57, Engaged to Chloe Gosselin, 28*
A relative? It would be nice if he could make J&K disappear!
Yes, handinhand, I understand what you are saying. The children will learn about their father's sex-life with Liz by hearing about it, or actually seeing him talk about it on television. Either way, it will be embarrassing for them, gringe-worthy indeed. Along with that information, apparently they will also learn how their father feels he wasted 10 years of his life with their mother. He may feel like that, but saying it hurts his children too, no child wants to hear a parent say that, especially in such a public way.
These two continue to put private topics on public display, obviously Jon far less-so than Kate. They both have a common denominator though; they both claim to put their children first, yet they continue to humiliate them through the media. TFW with her passive-aggressive approach, and Jon with his straightforward, unfiltered one. In the middle of this toxicity are 8 kids they both say they want to protect, but continue to hurt emotionally in such public ways.
If they want to be on television again, they should just stop using their broken relationship to get there, and bring whatever talent they have (separately) to the forefront and leave their children out of the equation all together. That includes cookbooks with their faces on the cover!
Without their children, they bring nothing unique or special to the table, nothing.
Tired of the pee pee in the driveway debate. Tired of hearing about what Jon may or may not do or say on Couples Therapy. Tired of the guessing games about Jon's home life when the kids are with him and really, really tired of all the speculation about everything.
Over in TWF's County, you are an angel. I love that you're taking care of these cats. It warms my heart. We need more people like you on this earth.
I'd like to *express* myself and say that I'd be *relieved* if we didn't *wade* into that topic once again. I mean, I don't know about you all, but I'm just about to *burst*.
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I guess it "depends* upon whether all agree that this is just water under the bridge by now.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 21h
Surround urself w/positive influences. When ur surrounded by negative thinkers, mindless criticism, U get bogged down in hopelessness.
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Is Milo talking to or about Kate? Hopelessness? Nothing like a really cheery tweet to get you up and running with a smile on your face! LOL!
Lalalalala 8
I agree.
Rhymes with Witch said... 11
Lalalalala 8
I agree.
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Ditto.
... apparently they will also learn how their father feels he wasted 10 years of his life with their mother. He may feel like that, but saying it hurts his children too, no child wants to hear a parent say that, especially in such a public way.
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Whoa, how do we know that he was referring to being with Kate in the wasting 10 years comment? He may have been referring to not following through with his education or pursuing IT or not keeping up with soccer or whatever. I think we should wait until we hear the full statement and can put it into the proper context before we condemn it.
While Jon may not get a pass entirely here, it does seem as though deeper examination of his actions sound alarms of too much/ too far.
That is very rarely the case when the discussion is about Kate. 182
IMO, that is because kate has and continues to provide ridiculous
amounts of minutiae about herself and her kids. Not to mention her shrewish behavior whenever she's on tv.
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For me, it's because Kate continuously exploits the kids with absolutely everything she does. From pics of the kids on the cover and throughout the crookbook, CWS, to tweets of their photos and sayings, to blogging about them; it's all about the kids.
Do they still make Dinty Moore beef stew? It looked like wet dog food, but as a very young bride, husband and I lived on that stuff. We survived, but I'd never want to see it again.
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I don't remember Dinty Moore in Canada but that's not to say it doesn't exist up here. We had Chuckwagon Dinner on occasion when I was a kid and I kind of liked it. I don't see it on the shelves anymore.
But whatever, I doubt if Kate's recipe is anything to write home about and even if it is, like Sherry Baby said, google a beef stew recipe. There's only about a million of them on the internet. Sheesh but sheeple are dense.
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I guess it "depends* upon whether all agree that this is just water under the bridge by now.
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hehe Rhymes. I agree. I think we're all pretty much "poise"d and ready for Couples Therapy Episode 2 thread.
OT update on the cats for the animal lovers here...
"Over in TWF's County, you are an angel. I love that you're taking care of these cats. It warms my heart. We need more people like you on this earth."
Thanks...appreciate the kind comment, but no angel here. I couldn't live with myself knowing that these kitties were struggling to survive in the cold when all of us here (pets included) were inside a warm house. I imagine that in the northern states and Canada, that cold weather like this isn't unusual, and outside cats become acclimated to it. That isn't the case here. I've lived in PA all of my life and I have never experienced the cold that we had here last night and today. The cats couldn't have survived outside. Even the garage would have been a struggle for them. I had a half-full cup of Dunkin Donuts coffee (with a lid) in my car cup holder that I forget to discard yesterday. When I picked it up today, it was frozen solid like it would have been in the freezer...not just an icy ring around it, but completely frozen, and this was inside my car.
Cats had a good night and day. I checked on them around 2 a.m. and they were sleeping in their beds. I found an old dinosaur of a cd player and a cd of nature sounds, waterfalls, rain, ocean, and I played it for them. Yes, I'm crazy. Today I had expected them to be pacing, meowing, scratching at the door to get out. They had never been inside a house before. Nope. The sun was shining through the windows and they found a nice warm spot and staked it out.
We'll see what happens tonight. They won't be going outside until Thursday, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Joy, thanks for your suggestion about removing car urine, but so far they are using the litter box, even though they had never seen one before.
End of cat story today. Carry on!
We still have Dinty Moore stew on the shelves in our local Safeway (west coast). Not sure about other parts of the country.
End of cat story today. Carry on!
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Thanks for the update. I can't believe they were even purring!
snowbird 13.....Yes, I agree, let's wait and see what Jon was referring to when he said he had wasted 10 years of his life. This was an assumption on my part based on comments made here. I do not subscribe to VH1, so we'll go with him not pursuing a soccer career or something of the like until his segment airs. Fair enough.
Over in TFW's County, you are not crazy. You are wonderful. They may never want to leave!
Over in TFW's Co. thank you for the kitten's care.
You are the Kitty Whisperer!!!
Honey Boo Boo, Mama June, Sugar Bear, Chubbs and Pumpkin were in a car accident last night.
http://www.eonline.com/news/496584/honey-boo-boo-and-family-involved-in-serious-car-crash-it-was-really-scary-for-us-mama-june-says
Exactly. It's simply an information load situation. The information load from Kate far outweighs that from Jon and has for years now.
If you have two friends, and one calls and texts all the time and tells you everything, and one you only talk to once a year, aren't your more apt to talk to hubby or other friends about the first friend much more often? Since the information load from that friend is much higher. Same concept.
OMG does anyone know how NOT to cook beef stew?
Put the "veges" that you want in it. I use Peas, Carrots, Potatoes, Tomatoes, Celery, Green Beans, Onions and tonight some cabbage. Cube some meat (I used Deer meat tonight) Shake it in some flour put a little EVOO in a pan and brown the floured meat. Add it to the "veges" Add V8 juice till all is covered ...cook for 10 hours in a crock pot. DONE
Jeesh, I should write a cookbook
Pam
I admit that I am really clueless when it comes to Twitter. I can read the TL and profiles of users, and although I can't tweet, I can see old tweets on the tunnel function. A sheeple who has a really, really bizarre obsession with bullies (almost to the point of being neurotic about it) claims that she blocks the bullies. Fine. So she can't see their tweets to her, but she responds to them nonetheless. How is this possible? Then she tweeted...
Lauren @ljohnson2006 48m
A hater called me out for saying that I have them blocked, but know what they tweet. If I search my username, I can see what they say. #Dumb
If you block a non-fan and don't want to see what they are tweeting to you or to Kate, then why would you read your TL to see what they have tweeted to you? Isn't that defeating the entire purpose of blocking a "hater?" There's something I'm not understanding here.
Oh gosh thank goodness Honey Boo Boo and family are okay. That could have been awful. I misread the article at first I thought they were saying June was driving then I thought wait isn't she legally blind! lol oops.
They did say June wasn't wearing her seatbelt. Did you know Survivor Tina's son, who recently died in a wreck, also wasn't wearing his belt? I can't believe that after all we know anyone would get into a car without buckling up. It's so simple. They said he would have been fine with his belt on, it wasn't that bad at all.
Silimom 17, we still have Dinty Moore on the east coast too.
I get a real kick out of the animal stories but right now Twf's county is right up there.
I have an outcome prediction but am not going to share :)
Twf's county, I SWEAR I will never refer to you as the crazy cat lady. Thank you.
I checked on them around 2 a.m. and they were sleeping in their beds.
What strange hybrid of cats are these that sleep at 2 am?? Mine does laps at 2 am. LOL
I get a real kick out of the animal stories but right now Twf's county is right up there.
I have an outcome prediction but am not going to share :)
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Don't even think it. Don't even go there. I'm trying to concentrate on something other than that. Fingers in my ears. I can't hear you!
Maybe I'll play some Johnny Mathis for them tonight.
My indoor cats all sleep through the night. They go to bed when we go to bed and get awake when we get awake. No lap-running here. Just really lucky, huh?
Megan Greenfield @meg_greenfield 15m
@Kateplusmy8 what do I have to do to get your attention !!! You're my hero 💪☺️
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Okay, let's make Bette Midler proud. Everyone sing together..."You are the wind beneath my wings."
Ha ha--Austin was on TV tonight, and it had nothing to do with Kate. Apparently, Entertainment Tonight did a preview of Kirstie Alley's slumber party(of which Austin was one of the winners).
Leigh Shahan @LEIGHSHAHAN1 23m
Did yall see our @TheAustinMartin on Entertainment Tonight! How cool is that friends and @Kateplusmy8 ??!! 🌟🌟🌟
I wonder if Kate is jealous?
Fingers in my ears. I can't hear you! 29
Um, good luck with that.
We've had foxes den in our backyard (Spring/early summer) and the occasional deer, but the domestic animals all seem to have homes or we'd probably need some sort of permit.
I wonder if Kate is jealous? 31
My guess? Jealous of the tv coverage but relieved that SHE didn't host Austin.
Good for him though.
A tiny bit more on fox kits. Over several years it became clear that they loved to gambol in freshly cut grass. It was priceless to watch. Their mom(s) would just wait patiently.
Ha ha--Austin was on TV tonight, and it had nothing to do with Kate. Apparently, Entertainment Tonight did a preview of Kirstie Alley's slumber party(of which Austin was one of the winners).
Leigh Shahan @LEIGHSHAHAN1 23m
Did yall see our @TheAustinMartin on Entertainment Tonight! How cool is that friends and @Kateplusmy8 ??!! ������
I wonder if Kate is jealous?
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I guess that I am just really out of the loop, but why would a single young college kid be attracted to, and want to have a slumber party with a 60-something divorced mom of grown children?
Bosom fetish? I remember awhile back that he kept tweeting her about her "knockers."
Over In TFW's County - Maybe since you're actually in TFW's county she'll accept an late entry for the not-a-contest for your good deed in taking in these poor kitties. Don't forget the picture!
All kidding aside, what a great thing you're doing. Wat have you named them? (LOLing)
Since the information load from that friend is much higher. Same concept
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Well, right now the information load is coming from Jon so there's bound to be lots of comments about it. He asked for it. He's gonna get it.
NJGal51 said... 36
Over In TFW's County - Maybe since you're actually in TFW's county she'll accept an late entry for the not-a-contest for your good deed in taking in these poor kitties. Don't forget the picture!
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I was kinda hoping Kate was taking notes here from TFW's County. I do hope Shoka is in the warm McMansion tonight.
TFW's County - Those lucky cats. You are my hero. Just wait til those kitties tell their friends. And then they'll tell two friends and then they'll tell ....
NJGal51 said... 36
Over In TFW's County - Maybe since you're actually in TFW's county she'll accept an late entry for the not-a-contest for your good deed in taking in these poor kitties. Don't forget the picture!
All kidding aside, what a great thing you're doing. Wat have you named them? (LOLing)
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Just think. If TFW Co. had 8...3 male kittens and 5 female kittens, she could name them.....hmmm......lol
Well I guess I offended people with my post ( what a surprise)
I really don't think I called any one names. I did say that many here watch and follow everything that TFW does. Yes, I don't understand why so many do that considering they hate everything about TFW.
People want to call out the sheeple....we want to know why they follow TFW and adore her. Well...they are her fans....the 6 that are left...they love her so....DUH....they are going to believe everything she says. I expect better from the non-lovers. But here we have the non lovers who look up and follow everything kate. It comes down to this...like her and follow her every doing... don't like her and call her out for the child and animal abuse ! Not for her clothes or nails...Like Jon said...call her out for the ASSHOLE she is!
All kidding aside, what a great thing you're doing. What have you named them? 38
Um, ok. How many, what genders?
I think we have naming rights. :)
Sleepless In Seattle said... 35
I guess that I am just really out of the loop, but why would a single young college kid be attracted to, and want to have a slumber party with a 60-something divorced mom of grown children?
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He's an odd one.
Starz22 said... 39
Like Jon said...call her out for the ASSHOLE she is!
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I believe that's exactly what we're doing.
Starz22 said... 39
Well I guess I offended people with my post ( what a surprise)
I really don't think I called any one names. I did say that many here watch and follow everything that TFW does. Yes, I don't understand why so many do that considering they hate everything about TFW.
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I am not offended just confused. Do you want people to stop commenting on this blog? Do you want Admin to throw in the towel here? What exactly is your point? Why do you read/post here if it bothers you so much?
So many questions...
Anyone taking any bets Jon re-opens his twitter account soon? How could he stay away? lol
I do hope the kids had a good first few days back at school. It must suck major ballz to be a Gosselin child/young woman.
PatK said... 43
Starz22 said... 39
Like Jon said...call her out for the ASSHOLE she is!
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I believe that's exactly what we're doing.
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Indeed. But according to Starz (39) we're not supposed to "follow" her nor watch her, but yer call her out for being whatever...how can we do this without knowing what she's doing? In order to call her out for whatever you think she is, wouldn't we have to know exactly what she's up to?
Confused right along with you, Auntie.
Starzz posts always seem to say the same thing just worded slightly differently. It's interesting.
Like Jon said...call her out for the ASSHOLE she is!
See, in my opinion, Jon is an asshole for publicly saying this. *shrug* Different viewpoints, it is indeed what makes the world go 'round.
Administrator) said... 45
Starzz posts always seem to say the same thing just worded slightly differently. It's interesting.
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lol. Interesting and confusing. I can't tell if she's angry or just trying to get a rise out of us.
It's a blog for heaven's sake. We're not trying to cure cancer here.
It's a blog for heaven's sake. We're not trying to cure cancer here.
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Noooo it's not "just" a blog! It's a lifestyle!!
Yep. The guide to better living.
Starz22 said... 40
Well I guess I offended people with my post ( what a surprise)
I really don't think I called any one names. I did say that many here watch and follow everything that TFW does.
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Starz22 - In your original post, you did not say "many here watch and follow everything that TFW does." Your exact words were:
"I get why the sheeple watch anything and everything she is on....They are fans. We are not,but yet,we watch everything. WHY???"
It is your use of the collective "we" that I disagreed with. As I said previously, you didn't offend me. And in reading posts from others who responded to you, it doesn't sound to me like you offended anyone. I just can't quite figure out what your point is.
Are you trying to say that the people who read and post here are exactly like the sheeple? Because if that is what you think, I completely disagree with you (and no, I am still not offended).
The sheeple blindly follow TFW no matter what she says and does. Even after witnessing some of Kate's terrible words and actions, they defend her 'til the end and never criticize her. There is something completely creepy about worshipping someone so fully that the worshippers always excuse their idol's bad behavior. They never question Kate's choices or actions - even when her words and actions are plainly harmful to her children - no matter what.
You have been here long enough to know that most people who read and post here are very willing to give Kate an "atta girl" in the rare times when it is appropriate. And even though many here give Jon the benefit of the doubt because, despite his flaws, he is still the better parent, they are also very ready, willing and able to call him out on his bone-headed decisions, words and actions. And therein lies the difference between the sheeple and us.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 25
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The whole "twitter" thing baffles me. I don't "do" twitter, but find TFW's timeline (?) to be like One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest.
Tons of ads, rag magazines, bots, CHINA EL ZODIVULKAN (??), a few regular fans, a lot of non-fans, etc... It is complete crazy land.
Am guessing any attention is good attention for Kate who still seems to think she is news worthy. And uses this device to continue advertising her kids.
Austin was on TV and Kate was not said... 31
Ha ha--Austin was on TV tonight, and it had nothing to do with Kate. Apparently, Entertainment Tonight did a preview of Kirstie Alley's slumber party(of which Austin was one of the winners).
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Good for him ( I think : ). At least Kirstie walks the talk.
Carole, how did you get Kate's mortgage info? Seems you have details not public?
Change in topic - Have been home from work for a couple of weeks but have been watching a lot of Law and Order, and have chuckled at Lennie Briscoe's delivery. (RIP Jerry Orbach).
Love this show, but Orbach was a classic cynic, and his delivery was always hilarious. At least in my opinion.
I believe that's exactly what we're doing
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Every. single. day
Okay, let's make Bette Midler proud. Everyone sing together..."You are the wind beneath my wings."
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LOL
Another puff piece by People Magazine, again throwing Jon under the bus. #SheWarnedUs
Mady and Cara Gosselin interview in People
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20773081,00.html
Well Kates' big news- Kate and the twins are on the cover of People!
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20773081,00.html
Ha! Anyone got an airbrush out there? LOL
I wonder how long ago People did the interview and photo shoot? Looks like Kate got on the horn after Jon said the kids were messed up. The parents are messed up !!
Actually, Jon is in a much better position to keep a gaurded eye on what the kids view online. His small house keeps him right in the thick of things when the kids are with him.
Once Kate kicks the kids out of the kitchen or retires to her off limits boudoir, I envision the kids going to their separate rooms playing Legos, watching TV, playing video games or yes, getting online. As long as they're out of her hair and quiet, she's happy and not one whit concerned with what's keeping them that way.
I wish she would stop getting these infusions of "fame food".
They breathe fresh oxygen into her hopes and she won't ever go away.
Hmmmm. The photo looks very similar to their last cover shot. Note their fresh-scrubbed, shiny-happy faces, and the fact that everyone's (again) dressed in virginal white. Boring, but maybe a brand-related thing? Or maybe People Magazine didn't want to spring for another photography session/collection.
... And therein lies the difference between the sheeple and us.
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"Jordan fades back (swoosh!), and that's the game, your honor!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaAgI7eZMg
Kate's on People magazine again. Looks like nobody would put her on TV to rebut Jon's statements about her, so she hd to go hit up her old buddy Kate Coyne. She makes it sound like a big deal, but we know that what she really, really wanted was to be on TV, in her best hooker-wear, sobbing about the injustice of it all and then dropping her all-too-obvious hints about wanting another show. Waaaa.
I remember seeing a clip of Kate Coyne talking about Kate, I think it was a clip from K+8, and saying that Kate is such a big star, she'll be around much longer than anyone expects, blah, blah, blah. Truth is, the only one left who is giving Kate any publicity in Kate Coyne and People Magazine. Everyone else has moved on to the newer and better celebs. Does KC think she can single-handedly salvage Kate's media career? Good luck with that one, Ms. Coyne.
To CAROLE (#183): Thanks for the info on Kate's mortgage.
The twins are now the cover of People magazine. Who the f*ck does this?
Now it's the twins job to "set the record straight"?
No.
Words.
To Layla (#67): I think your comment was spot on!
To Dmasy (#64): Yup. Seems that People magazine is the only one giving the twit her narcissistic supply, or as you said, her fame food.
to Tucker's Mom (#69): Answer: A. Fame. Whore.
The People mag article is also whitewashing the truth as it always does- as well as the photo lol. The twins are very rehearsed no doubt/ I don't like how they always say life with the tups is so hard.The problem is their mother! Ii guess that's TFW's big surprise? I bet she's pleased at the 'positive' exposure.I won't be buying it to 'read all."
See, seeing Kate use the kids directly like this makes me so much madder than Jon embarrassing his children for 7 episodes on Thursday night. I guess if that's a double standard, then it's a double standard. I don't like the show, but it doesn't make me so mad I could spit like when I see the girls exploited like this.
That aside, objectively speaking I think Kate Coyne is very biased. She and Kate formed some kind of kinship somehow. There is really no reason that such a has-been D-lister celeb should be on the cover of People magazine twice now in 6 months. Point to any other person similarly situated to Kate who would show up as the cover story. It just wouldn't happen. It's utter nonsense to keep putting this irrelevant woman and her children on the cover. This is no different than putting an orange on the cover of People magazine again and again. I mean, what is the relevance?
People expect us to be damaged," Cara says, as Mady joins in: "People think we're supposed to be messed up, like, 'Oooooh, the poor Gosselin kids, they're going to be scarred for life, waaaaah.' Here's the big news: we're not messed up."
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I am sorry the girls have to deal with people telling them that they are damaged (who would say such a thing to their face?? Did KATE tell them people say that?). That said, girls, you are THIRTEEN YEARS OLD. Most children in the public eye don't start hitting problems until the ride is truly over, they aren't cute anymore, and adulthood is knocking on the door. Miley Circus, for one. Talk to us when you are 22, the realities of your bizarre upbringing have truly set in, the realities of the mistakes your parents made have truly set in, and no one cares about you anymore.
I don't want them to have problems, but it's just silly to say hey I'm 13 and don't have problems from being famous. Of course you don't. You're 13.
I just think it's sick to use your kids as your spokespeople to peddle your desperate agenda. They are little children. Good Lord. It really is unbelievable a mother would do that.
Point to any other person similarly situated to Kate who would show up as the cover story. It just wouldn't happen. It's utter nonsense to keep putting this irrelevant woman and her children on the cover
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I'm trying to think of any other celeb who has used their child/children to rehabilitate their image and keep them relevant.
By not that small of a margine, the Gosselin kids still have a chance for privacy. Although on tv for years, they will change in many ways as they grow, and won't be those little kids anymore, so there's a chance that they can choose to distance themselves from their "famous" past and move forward with some semblance of privacy.
Today, that's all changed, at least for the twins.
Kate has officially pawned them into the media spotlight.
It will be much, much harder to go back, ever, if this continues.
I can only imagine the tups will be gracing covers in the future- "What we really think of our older sisters".
Blech.
I hate when they airbrush the kids because they don't look like themselves. Cara and Mady don't look nearly as pretty as they actually are.
And strictly objectively I would peg Kate at about 45 in that photo. That is insane. The airbrushing makes it look like they are trying to make someone really flawed look years younger.
@Kateplusmy8: Shoka's not happy staying indoors d/t extreme cold temps!Prob solved:Got heated dog bed 4 pampered pup so he can patrol his land a lil more!
@Kateplusmy8: @mariahhh_brittt I think we are up to 9 degrees now. Was 7 degrees at bus stop this am!
Well there you go. Problem solved Over in TFW's County. You didn't have to go to all that trouble for those kitties.
TFW is over on twitter farting rainbows non-stop. She's just so giddy to be on the cover again. Maybe she's pushing for a show with the twins. "People expect us to be damaged," Cara says, as Mady joins in: "People think we're supposed to be messed up, like, 'Oooooh, the poor Gosselin kids, they're going to be scarred for life, waaaaah.' Here's the big news: we're not messed up." From what we saw on the KC interview and CWS, they didn't have normal reactions to things. If they're not messed up I guess they're just entitled little.........
From the article: ""People expect us to be damaged," Cara says, as Mady joins in: "People think we're supposed to be messed up, like, 'Oooooh, the poor Gosselin kids, they're going to be scarred for life, waaaaah.' Here's the big news: we're not messed up.""
How would a 13 year old know what the characteristics of a "damaged" person are? How strange to hear a 13 year old say this. Obviously words were fed by their mother.
It is all very disturbing.
The comments are scathing and only a few look like they are from Gosselin "regulars." They're saying this looks desperate.
Here are comments that I think should scare us. People are saying that the twins are now officially as annoying as Kate peddling their agenda and lies.
This is the problem. If she is going to put the kids out there and let them speak for themselves, people are, and this is fair, going to start forming opinions about whether they "like" what they are hearing out of their mouths or not. People are going to start to see them as celebs in their own right and not just the eight faces that are always floating around Kate. And with celebrity as we know comes the criticism.
This is very, very thin ice. They are not adults and able to handle the public criticism that will fly. They are far, far too young to be able to do that. I doubt Kate gives a flying fig but any other loving parent should think very, very carefully before trying to put their child out there like this in this sort of "set the record straight" manner (By the way, I've never seen a family have to set the record straight so darn much. Maybe it's time for some soul searching. What is it that we are doing that causes us to ALWAYS be in a position of "setting it straight." Think about it.). It could backfire both on them and the kids, and in this case it already has.
@Kateplusmy8: Shoka's not happy staying indoors d/t extreme cold temps
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That's odd, since every dog I have ever known in my entire life has followed everything I've ever read about dog "packs" and just wants to be with his family or pack. If the family is inside that's where they want to be. This roaming behavior he wants to do is not normal and is the sign of a bored dog who has not socialized well with his pack. She should be concerned, not laughing.
Are you kidding me?
How would a 13 year old know what the characteristics of a "damaged" person are? How strange to hear a 13 year old say this. Obviously words were fed by their mother.
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Struck me as odd wording and other parents posting comments said their 13 year old wouldn't say something like that.
Their mother told them people were saying they are damaged, bet you anything. So does Kate sit them down every night and tell them what is being said and the indoctrinate them to the Kate way of responding? Is this like what order do we eat our food and they all have to recite "we're not damaged!" over and over until it's in their heads? What is going on in that house?
I wish the follow up had been, what exactly do you mean by damaged, Cara, and why do you think people think that? I bet you a 13 year old hasn't the first clue about what exactly are all the valid concerns their own aunt and uncle and many others have brought up are. They're far too young to understand it on that level. I bet you these 13 year olds could not accurately articulate why people had a problem with this show. They're not able to understand this fully yet. They're CHILDREN.
Oh and they're still in the phase where everything Mommy (and by the same token, Daddy) says is gospel. They're easy to manipulate and tell how to think. They are BARELY 13. But it won't last much longer. Check back with us in 18 months, Kate, and tell us how that's going.
Of course you don't. You're 13.
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And for much of the time with their mother they live a seemingly sheltered life.
I wonder if the twins will each get a third of the photo shoot money.
Yes and like OP said how would a 13 year old be able to recognize a "damaged" child in the first place? Jon talked about how they have trouble in social situations. Do the twins even understand what he means by that? Is a 13 year old really old enough to recognize, gosh my little brother sort of had a lot of trouble making friends on the playground today, and that's concerning. I doubt a 13 year old is even paying attention. They've just been told "you're not damaged" and they repeat it. They have no idea what that really means and all the subtle ways a child can be damaged.
The way Mady makes that remark has Kate written all over it.
From Radar
http://radaronline.com/photos/jon-kate-plus-30-scandals-secrets-lies-of-reality-tvs-one-time-first-family/photo/610728/
John and Kate Plus 30 Scandals
Sure ... these kids aren't damaged.
Kate allowing this and the scrutiny for the twins this will invite is amongst the worst forms of parenting.
Ye gawds, woman.
Check yourself!
This is when Kate doesn't think strategically. Public opinion swayed more in favor of Jon when she sued him and she was in a bad spot. Then when he signed on to CT public opinion soured again against him and has been pretty high in light of some of the disgusting clips from CT. Instead of just being patient and riding this train, what does she do? She ONE UPs him. Stupid idea and not very strategic. Now all the Gosselin comments and stories are all about HER. She deflected straight on to herself and she makes Jon's stupid stunt seem not so bad after all. Can she not just be patient for five minutes here?
Does anyone else think that TFW is going to try and pitch a show with the twins now? Maybe because they're "older" Jon wasn't able to stop the interview..."waaaaah daddy, we really want to do it to set the record straight" followed by "I hate you! I hate you! I hate you if you don't let us do it". Don't teenage girls tell at least one of their parents that they hate them at least once a week? I can see M going this route but C always seemed more private and seemed to shun the "spotlight". If TFW hasn't spoon fed them everything they're on the Internet a lot more than either TFW or Jon think and read everything about themselves.
SMH at TFW for using the kids to further her agenda. Oh wait, that's what she's done from day one. I guess Milo will have some new pictures to add to her collection.
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The way Mady makes that remark has Kate written all over it.
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That's what a commenter said. One said those two were always annoying, especially the one always having a meltdown and that they were whiny and jealous and should have been taken aside and told to cut it out in the show.
What bothers me the most about the People article is where Kate says the twins are very "savvy" about people. "They are nobody's fool." They are only 13 for Pete's sake. I know they are teenagers, but it just emphasizes the fact that they really did not have a normal childhood.
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Time for a new topic! TFW has gotten what she wanted. She pushed Jon out of the (questionable) spotlight and has all the criticism directed at her and the twins now. She truly is an ass. I guess the sheeple can cling to the fact that no one pissed in a driveway during the interview. (Sorry but I had to go there)
I think where the twins are really going to have a rubber meeting the road moment is in college. Freshman year is when most kids realize for the first time, okay not everyone is just like where I came from. Most kids adjust fine to that, feel good about where they come from and spread their wings. Others realize they don't like their background and upbringing or that it wasn't normal, and they rebel, doing all kinds of things they've never done before to sort of prove to themselves they are their own person.
My fear is being away from home will be eye opening for them and they are going to realize for the first time how strange and dysfunctional their upbringing was. They are going to reflect back and think differently about things, because they will have adult brains now. For instance they may feel used by Kate suddenly, when they remember her doing things like putting them on People to peddle her agenda. And when they see the actual dollar figure in those bank accounts, if they feel it's not fair compensation for what they gave up or feel money was blown, there could be hell to pay.
Missy Francis went through the same thing. There was nothing wrong with her at 13. As she got older and older things became clearer and clearer. Her child brain became an adult's brain. An adult who started having questions. And it snowballed from there.
What the...? I looked at the Poeple article online, and in the comments section, someone named Sally posted my comment (67) on there, word for word. How odd..I'm not Sally, and I don't post on those things (don't want to give Kate more attention). But...what the heck. I choose to be flattered.
I wonder if this article was a trade-off for Kate getting One Direction tickets?
I guess Kate feels that since no one believes anything that comes out of her mouth anymore, she's going to use the twins to say what she wants the world to hear. She obviously coached them and told them what to say. Her usual MO of putting her words in her kids' mouths.
Perhaps, Jon knew about this article, and that could be part of the reason he cursed Kate out in that Philadelphia magazine article. I wouldn't be surprised if Kate actually showed the twins that article.
Regarding the tweet about Shoka and his "new" heated dog bed. Didn't she say a long time ago, that Shoka had a heated bed in his doghouse?
She pushed Jon out of the (questionable) spotlight and has all the criticism directed at her and the twins now. She truly is an ass.
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This is when I know this woman is truly stupid. She's just stupid. She couldn't STFU if her life depended on it. People are livid at Jon. That's what she wanted, right? Sit back and enjoy the ride. You don't swoop in and try to steal the spotlight out from under him when it's going this badly for him. Let the tower fall, don't try to come in with your own tower and take attention away from the first one!
She's an idiot, just an idiot.
Whatever her purpose in doing this - has a new show or special, wants a new show, just to battle their father - I it's already backfiring. I just turned on the tv while I was getting ready for work and Hoda K. and Kathie Lee were already talking about it as a talking point segment. I came here to see what was going on, I hadn't heard.
They were negative, questioned it. Apparently the article also has the girls saying things about how hard it was with their dad's initial "string of girlfriends" and Kate comments on the three of them forming an "us against the world" thing. Hoda and Kathie Lee said a few things about being careful with new girlfriends and aware of your kids, but their conversation was on how you do not put your kids out there to talk about your family and personal problems. Both were critical. Kathie Lee does know, she's had her share of family issues, said she specifically asked her kids to not talk about the family when they got a little older and you just don't do it.
I'll be interested to see how it pans out, but if Kate was hoping for some good tv promo, it already is going the opposite direction.
What.the.hell? Kate puts her twins in People Mag in another attempt to stay relevent? What is the matter with this woman???
Looks like the twins are fair game now. Prepare yourselves, Sheeple.
The twins reportedly don't spend all the established visitation with their father that is allowed. This leaves much more time with her and her indoctrination. In that world, it's all deceptive Kate all the time playing over and over again on a loop.
ROL is reporting that Kreider's lawyers stopped the book.
"However, Kate’s lawyers successfully got Hoffman’s book (in which he had alleged she abused her kids) banned from distribution."
http://radaronline.com/photos/jon-kate-plus-30-scandals-secrets-lies-of-reality-tvs-one-time-first-family/photo/610889/
Anybody? Robert, make some kind of statement, please!
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Oh, my.....Just when you think Kate cannot top her own stupidity and obnoxious behavior, she uses her 13 year old twins for attention. And Kate Coyne doesn't get off easy here...she should be ashamed as well.
What bothers me the most about the People article is where Kate says the twins are very "savvy" about people. "They are nobody's fool." They are only 13 for Pete's sake
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The twins have always struck me as quite bright, but this is a perfect example of Kate having no understanding of child development. I don't care how savvy she thinks they are, they are still little children and don't get to have all the privileges adults do just because they're a little smarter than the average bear. I think she's trying to imply that because they're so smart we can trust anything they say when really she's just whispering her agenda in their ear and they're repeating it like any other 13 year old would.
I really think she's in for it in the teenage years. It's often those smart kids who make the worst teens. She is only going to make it worse by using them like this, they are going to have a sudden change of heart in a few years.
On another note, I don't know what People asked them about Jon's dating, but how dare they. They have no right to ask little children about such a thing. That's between their parents and a therapist. But the F out.
Perhaps, Jon knew about this article, and that could be part of the reason he cursed Kate out in that Philadelphia magazine article. I wouldn't be surprised if Kate actually showed the twins that article.
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Yes. Jon went on that long, rather angry rant about how she uses his children. It seemed a little over the top at the time given they hadn't been on T.V. in over a year. It all makes sense now.
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That aside, objectively speaking I think Kate Coyne is very biased. She and Kate formed some kind of kinship somehow.
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You are hardly objective.
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There is really no reason that such a has-been D-lister celeb should be on the cover of People magazine twice now in 6 months.
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Yes, there is. It's called the almighty dollar. Objectively speaking, Kate brings in $ for People. Her covers sell. That is what this is about, not her "kinship" with a reporter. People Magazine is a business. Their reporters don't wield the power to put their favorites on magazine covers.
From http://www.adweek.com/news/press/2013s-best-and-worst-magazine-cover-stars-154604
"People’s biggest sellers this year turned out to be cover stories about 'real' people. A cover featuring the Cleveland kidnapping victims brought in the most newsstand dollars, followed by the Gosselins of Jon & Kate Plus 8. A recent cover story on the McStay murder case was also newsstand gold."
Admin, I think their come to Jesus moment is going to be when they say "but we're THE Gosselin's" and the answer is either "Who?" or "So what!" They live a very sheltered life now...private school, maybe some school activities, home...lather, rinse repeat. There's a big, bad world outside of those gates and none of the kids are going to be prepared to face it if they still believe that they are special and deserve everything on a golden platter.
That aside, objectively speaking I think Kate Coyne is very biased. She and Kate formed some kind of kinship somehow. There is really no reason that such a has-been D-lister celeb should be on the cover of People magazine twice now in 6 months
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First thing I thought of -- who is she sleeping with there. or who there would LIKE to sleep with her?
That's what a commenter said. One said those two were always annoying, especially the one always having a meltdown and that they were whiny and jealous and should have been taken aside and told to cut it out in the show.
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I wonder who they think would have taken her to the side and told her to cut it out. TLC? No way. That's just the footage they were hoping to capture. Their "can't be bothered with her own kids" mother? Never. Their overburdened, henpecked exhausted father? He was mostly in survival mode. Who's left?
Wendy Williams just had a lady from In Touch Magazine on her show and they were talking about Jon and Kate and how Jon thinks Kate is desperate for fame and it's harming the kids. Wendy said she is team Jon on this issue and then the In Touch lady says Jon just did an interview with them and it's their cover story this week all about how Kate is ruined by greed. Then she goes on to talk about how Kate just did a cover for a competing magazine and what does she do but put the kids on the cover talking about how "normal" they are. You should have seen Wendy's face. Wendy then said she is just tired of BOTH of them. Wendy's show is very popular and her opinion's are widely accepted as correct on many of today's issues.
That woman is just evil....pure evil....As a Mom, I could not possible fathom using my children in such a manner.
I wonder if The View will comment...
So this was the big surprise? What's with her hash tag.. "don't say I didn't warn you?" Warn sheeple about what? There was no hint of this, was there?
I imagine those waiting with baited breath for the announcement of a new television show are pretending to be excited over this latest exploitation, but must be disappointed that nope, no television show. Fooled again.
susan • 13 minutes ago −
It's not that we expect them to be "messed up," it's that we expect them to be snotty brats like their ridiculous mother. Thank you, xxxxx, for not disappointing on that.
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grosselins are gross susan • 9 minutes ago −
Everyone with working eyeballs has seen that since that girl was small. No surprise.
"She's an idiot, just an idiot."
Besides being an idiot Admin she's an asshole. Just like Jon said.
Kathie Lee does know, she's had her share of family issues, said she specifically asked her kids to not talk about the family when they got a little older and you just don't do it.
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Good for Kathie Lee!! I'm surprised.
No Kathie Lee, you do not let your kids talk about your personal problems in public. A healthy family dynamic is built by having a healthy set of boundaries and trust. Kids should not be secretive or ashamed, but they should also have a healthy understanding that some things we work out in private as a family. This is one area where Kate has always been vastly different than the narcissist I know. In that family, you didn't EVER talk to reporters or anyone about the various dysfunctional things going on. There was a cliche circle of trust and it did not include the public or reporters, ever. Family, trusted staff, a few close friends, and that was it. Even at young ages the kids understood just fine how important privacy was to the family and what was okay to talk about outside the walls of the house and what was not. They would never in a million years ever disclose anything like that. They were also very good at keeping it together in public. If something was upsetting them they would never, ever embarrass the family. Even if a kid might want to burst into tears, they wouldn't. They would wait until they got home and then be upset there. It might have been a knock down drag out, but it happened at HOME. In that sense, I like how that was handled. The home is a sacred place to work out problems, and not for the public to watch.
The girls need therapy if they want to discuss girlfriends and all these other private things. And really, they're still hung up on the not-a-string of girlfriends from Jon's six months of bad behavior when they were all of 9 years old?? On the show they seemed to LIKE Ellen. I just have such a hard time buying that unless Kate is telling them over and over about that, most kids would have worked through that ages ago. If they were older that's a different story but they were all so little, and busy with filming, and school. Find it hard to buy. They can feel what they like about Jon but their standard response to that question should be thanks for asking but that's private between me and my Dad. Period.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20773081,00.html
Disgusting, and disgusted beyond words. Whoever above said it first, this woman will not STFU for anything. And judging from the comments, apparently People (Kate Coyne) thinks any publicity is good for 'her' brand. Asking 13 year olds to weigh in on their parents' divorce is contemptible. Actually any focus on this Dlister is contemptible. Well, here's to giddy Kate - hope she reads ALL the comments, because what mother puts her children out there for that kind of negative exposure?
Looks like the sheep have broken out of the fenced field again.
Man is selling his 2 million dollar restaurant to raise money for employee who is sick with a brain tumor.
Wow. God bless him and the young lady.
http://www.christianpost.com/buzzvine/when-employee-is-diagnosed-with-brain-tumor-boss-decides-to-sell-restaurant-to-pay-for-her-treatment-video-112194/
So Jon's in In Touch saying Kate is a famewhore, eh? Competing magazine covers!
Seriously, this has got to stop. This is a feud of epic proportions. I agree with Wendy this time, STOP!
And my favorite comment from People this morning:
Beyond the pale • 2 hours ago −
Does People Magazine have a line-item in their annual budget for Kate Gosselin? And is it listed as "charitable contribution"?
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People has really jumped the shark over the past few years, really turning into more of a National Enquirer type magazine. With the advent of twitter and instagram, real celebrities can release their info, pictures, etc., themselves immediately and not have to wait weeks to get on the cover of a magazine.
Well, the twins stars sure have risen in a year. An appearance on Katie Couric, crookbook photographer and editor and now a cover without the tups.
All carefully crafted and implemented by their desperate, narcissistic, famechasing, vengeful, greedy black hole of a mother.
Cynical pollyanna here! I hope for the best but suspect the worst.
I smell ”synergistic marketing”. Jon on Couples Therapy. He hasn't been on TV in forever, normal is boring, so in effort to create interest let's have some bashing from his children. Then maybe more people will be interested in seeing him on the show.
Five more years until the twins will be eighteen and can sue TLC for all kinds of things, just like TFMJG, ” can we sue?”
I guess Hoda and Kathy Lee don't like this
@EJBuffNY: @KathieLGifford if kate gosselin shouldn't be using her kids to speak for her, why are you and @hodakotb talking about the story?
I think TFW is trying to go the way of Kris Jenner, using the twins. Just sad that it sounds like the twins are not much a part of Jon's life now. -Lin-
Here's the link to the competing In Touch cover:
http://www.intouchweekly.com/in-this-issue
@EJBuffNY: @KathieLGifford if kate gosselin shouldn't be using her kids to speak for her, why are you and @hodakotb talking about the story?
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This is absurd logic. Just absurd logic. We should always feel free to talk about bad things we see. Always. Unless people say something, who will ever know it's bad?
TFW is crazy. That is a puffy puffy piece of work in People. What we saw on CWS is night and day compared to this article. We saw the true goings on on CWS and Katie Couric at the Mcmansion.
Why didn't M and C refuse to do this? Did their mother promise them a big trip to NYC, being pampered and most of all, getting away from work, chores and their siblings?
What they printed the girls supposedly said is definitely from the lying mouth of kate. This propaganda is another deflection of what that psycho did and wrote about on her computer. I wonder if Robert is ready to go to print?
Someone posted a comment on the E! site that needs to be removed. It is vulgar and if the girls googled their article it would show up.
Betcha Jon didn't know this was a comin'. Would not put it past TFW to make the girls not tell him. When she did it for CWS, this would be nothing for her to do it.
I hope People sells very little of this magazine.
Also, Over in TFW's Co. (kitten whisperer) said that in her garage the next day a half cup of coffee that she left in her car had frozen solid. Since TFW is not far from there, why is Shoka banished to the garage and outside when it is so bad cold? She can't even let him come in for a few days and nights till it gets tolerable outside? Even though she allegedly got him a heated puppy bed and in the garage, that is not enough until this cold blast clears up.
I wonder what the going rate is for celebrities who have no qualms about using their kids for fame and putting them out in the public eye on a magazine cover, talking about their father's girlfriends and how "normal" they are. Does the salaciousness of this garner more of a paycheck for the twisted mother? I can only imagine. When the magazine covers no longer come calling, how will TFW make money off her kids? Again, I can only imagine.
Marie
TV hosts are talking about the story because KATE made it a story. And the wheels on the train go round and round...
Vanessa said... 167
I agree with pretty mucheverything you said Millicent except the part that implies all reality shows are the same. You can't lump the likes of real housewives/teen mom/CT/big brother etc. With survivor/dwts/chopped/Duggars etc. Most certainly you see a difference?
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My point was actually in a different direction. Someone said that Jon's participation on CT was violating his children's privacy. I presume they mean that because Jon will talk about his personal life, that's enough to find him a bad parent and in violation of his children's privacy.
I was pointing out that if you carried that line of logic out, then every parent with minor children who ever was on or is on a reality tv show is also a "bad parent" and "violating their children's privacy."
So then, should only childless people be on reality tv shows? My point was that we don't know yet what Jon is going to say on this show, and if he shares details of his relationship with Liz, that alone shouldn't be called "violating his children's privacy."
But if you want a family that gives TFW a run for her money as far as exploiting their kids and violating their privacy, look no further than the Duggars. They dress it up a bit, but I am horrified by what they've "shared" on that show.
Guess this week's People goes directly to trash.
And how did she bribe the girls? 1D tix is what I think.
Yep, now we know why she was grifting One Direction tickets.....A reward for bashing their Dad.
If Anonymous reads here (obviously) and his/her comment was deleted, I'll say this to you: K puts it all out there, and bloggers talk about it and the bloggers are to blame????? Typical sheeple hypocrisy. Go baa-baack to the corral.
PJ
what.a.dumb.b*tch
How DARE she!
"Those who think the girls have been harmed in some way by fame – a group which recently seemed to include their own father – are likely to be disappointed"
There, you've done more harm then we've seen in a few years in that ONE EFFING SENTENCE.
Opened up Pandora's box for comments/posts/opinions about how they 'REALLY' are damaged.
They come across as totally snotty. Jon gets thrown DIRECTLY under the bus. The "littles" too! What's to follow??? You think the BULLYING WON'T HAPPEN???
I cannot F%$#^(* STAND HER!
People has really jumped the shark over the past few years, really turning into more of a National Enquirer type magazine. With the advent of twitter and instagram, real celebrities can release their info, pictures, etc., themselves immediately and not have to wait weeks to get on the cover of a magazine.
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I think this is a great point Paula. I remember when People used to do compelling cover stories about every day people far more than they put D list celebs on the cover. I don't care how much money Kate makes them, they had standards back in the day and D listers rarely showed up on their covers. They seem to be scraping the bottom of the barrel. It's true, celebs do so much of their own PR these days. If you've got 15 million instagram followers, why waste an entire day doing a People photoshoot that won't reach nearly that many? Netflix killed Blockbuster, and Instagram and the internet is killing these magazines or at least making them change how they do things.
Any rebuttal Jon tries to offer to this latest offense by Kate, legitimate though it may be, will be discredited by many because of his decision to do CT.
This tit for tat $hitshow needs to stop.
"Those who think the girls have been harmed in some way by fame – a group which recently seemed to include their own father – are likely to be disappointed"
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They are 13 and 10!!!
Are we living in an alternate reality??
We haven't the slightest idea whether these children are harmed by fame yet. And even if they aren't, WONDERFUL. That doesn't mean that fame is GOOD. That just means that they GOT LUCKY. Lots of people don't wear seat belts, but only a few get in car accidents and die. Doesn't mean not wearing a seatbelt is a good idea for god sake.
What utter dolts.
Also I resent that people are going to be "disappointed" if they are not harmed by fame. The people who care about these children are good people with good hearts who want nothing more than for these kids to turn out right. They just aren't STUPID and don't buy this crap.
No one is going to be "disappointed" if the kids turn out fine. People will breathe a sigh of relief. That is the whole point, people wanted the gravy train to stop and the show to stop so the kids wouldn't be damaged. Maybe it stopped just in the knick of time, they were still quite little. For all we know it stopped just in time. Again, doesn't prove that fame is GOOD.
This is one area where Kate has always been vastly different than the narcissist I know. In that family, you didn't EVER talk to reporters or anyone about the various dysfunctional things going on.
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I agree, but this article is to say THERE IS NO DYSFUNCTION! She's making them LIE!!!! She's making them keep the lie GOING!
Just like my narcissist mother, keep the façade going. Make sure the world knows how GOOD I AM!
People really does cover "old" news these days. A few weeks ago I was sitting in the hair salon and Amy Robach was on the cover. She works for ABC News and her "story" about how her breast cancer was found and how she is doing was covered extensively Good Morning America and the abc news website. I thought to myself how odd that People is covering a story that is already known and people can read updates instantly on the internet.
I humbly submit that I called this one. NUMBER 1 of Kate's many idiotic, asinine mistakes of 2014.
No, Kate's face on the cover of People does not sell the magazine. She is old news recycled. No one cares about her, so she drags the kids out to breathe one last breath of life into her famehole because she knows people care about THEM. She could not have chosen a better way to demonstrate what an exploitative mother she is. This is going to backfire on her big time.
Paula, interesting. I think just like many other written publications they're struggling to find where they are going to go with the way the media works now. Where is their place in all this? How can they stay relevant when anything you put on the rack already seems "dated" to people always checking the internet? There was a funny joke on Family Guy about local news, yet sad at the same time. The newscaster said good evening I'm Tom Tucker and we're here bringing you the news you already read on the internet four hours ago.
LOL, yet where do the Tom Tuckers of the world fit in?
I used to be in this business, and I got out to do law before the internet really was a big issue. Within 6 months the internet was suddenly an issue. I think it would really scare me to still be in publication. I would wonder where it is going, what is going to happen. I wouldn't want to be a part of a magazine that people used to take seriously, that has to do desperate stories like this. Kate and her twins are not a story. They really aren't. There is no story here. They are not the first "non-story" on their cover. This is an ongoing issue for People these days. That would disappoint me.
Any rebuttal Jon tries to offer to this latest offense by Kate, legitimate though it may be, will be discredited by many because of his decision to do CT.
This tit for tat $hitshow needs to stop.
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They're both discredited now.
Here's the problem, when you spat too loud and too vicious with each other, eventually it becomes white noise to the public. All they hear is the spat. They don't hear the individual points each side is making, as good as those points may or may not be.
It seems to me much of the general public no longer has the patience to try to figure out who's right and who has the better points. It's just all noise now, and now they both just like like they're both guilty of participating in a never ending feud and they won't SHUT UP.
This was very poorly played by both PR camps. Very poorly played. Both of them should be doing some firing.
There is no need for a rebuttal from Jon. The article more damage to Kate than anything Jon can say. However, the damage Kate has done to Cara and Mady is another story....
I think People came up with 1d txt and that's why she said it may not be an issue after all. Her problem wasn't affording them it was finding them. people said we have tx if you let us interview the twins. Or vice versa
And how can you NOT be damaged (take away the abuse, the narcissism, the divorce) when you've had your whole life exposed to the world and your parents are DESPISED???
And strictly objectively I would peg Kate at about 45 in that photo. That is insane. The airbrushing makes it look like they are trying to make someone really flawed look years younger.
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They had to use airbrush to get the egg off her face.
So then, should only childless people be on reality tv shows? My point was that we don't know yet what Jon is going to say on this show, and if he shares details of his relationship with Liz, that alone shouldn't be called "violating his children's privacy."
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I agree with Millicent. The issue for me with this show is not really him violating their privacy. I don't see that he's disclosed anything that should be private about them on CT. The issue is the embarrassment of the show and the perpetuation of the Gosselin family in the public eye, which I believe to be harmful to the children.
Embarrassing things your parents do and privacy violations are both harmful, but there are two completely different things. And I happen to think that privacy violations, unless they are minor, are almost always worse than a parent embarrassing you.
Oh I am pretty sure that biotch offered up the twins in exchange for 1D tickets, and I will also bet stage passes are involved. And while I agree that at this point the 2 of them, the parents, have become annoying white noise to the world, only one of them is pimping out the children. And she is a master of that, shameless, utterly shameless.
I'm sure we must have talked about this before but I'm starting to believe that Kate intentionally plays up this whole divorce and feud with Jon. I think she intentionally makes it as terrible as possible just so she can get attention in the media.
If you think about it, the quickest way for her to get in the media and get attention is when she is feuding with Jon. No one cared about her cookbook, she gave it the old college try without Jon but no one cared. The media wants to hear about her feud. They want to hear about her and JON.
I mean, four years of hating someone THIS MUCH? Four years of having a divorce THIS MESSY? You'd have to be pretty sick. I think she creates a whirlwind of controversy and makes the divorce seem like a constant battle because in her sick mind she knows not only is she nothing without these kids, but she is really nothing without a contentious divorce.
Sick!!!
If the kids at school were not tuned into the Gosselin saga, they will be now. Whose classmates are on the cover of People? At 13, the vulnerable years, the girls will either be 'celebs' or pariahs. JMO, I hope they have some true blue friends, but they do come across as entitled. That's conjecture from what I have seen/read.
Did they need Jon's permission to do this article does anyone know?
Or did I miss mention of that? Wonder if he is talked about.
I noticed that on the People cover, in the bottom right hand corner it says:
"Kate with Mady(top) and Cara. November 25, 2013"
So apparently the photo shoot and most likely the interview was done right after Kate dropped her lawsuit against Jon.
They got Zorro on November 24, One Direction tickets went on sale December 7. Seems like there was a lot of bribery going on at that time. Maybe not only for M&C to do the interview, but also for the kids to keep quiet about it.
I, not only think that Kate is disgusting for letting the twins do this interview, but I think People magazine is disgusting for doing it. Now she's opened a new can of worms in which she has made her older daughters subject to criticism from the public.
That is anything but "normal".
Kate's panic on twitter over the One Direction tickets makes perfect sense now. She was manic about it. Why? Bet she PROMISED the twins One Direction tickets for peddling her agenda in People and when she realized that this is not like the old days and she had to wait in the internet line for tickets like everyone else and might miss out, she panicked. She was convinced she had to deliver these tickets or the kids might blow her cover.
If you think about it, the quickest way for her to get in the media and get attention is when she is feuding with Jon. No one cared about her cookbook, she gave it the old college try without Jon but no one cared.
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Very true, it gives her the attention she cannot live without. You know, at what point do you actually have enough of being bashed? Whether in her mind she feels she has a RIGHT to keep herself out there or not, how much HATE can you take? I would be a crumbling blubbering mess. What will it take for her to STFU? What?
I also think that the kids at school are a million times more likely to see and read the People magazine article than even know about CT.
If they have good parents, they would never even be allowed to watch a show like CT. I also highly doubt kids this young are interested in the first place. Most parents should have VH1 blocked anyway. That age is a bit too young for VH1 type shows. But most parents wouldn't stop a 13 year old from picking up People in the grocery checkout.
Kate and Jon have both lost their way in life and now Kate is taking her kids down the same path...very sad to see
I guess inviting C and M into her bedroom as her newest bffs is how she methodically works on alienating them from their dad.
Two down, six more to go, right Kate?
And whoever posted about Hoffman making some kind of statement, I agree! How absolutely ridiculous to not share SOMETHING on the topic. He had no problem with his taunting prophetic teases, now SAY something! She has the gaul to insinuate that she, and she alone, has raised perfectly stable well adjusted children??? All I know is if you've been beaten, used and abused you DO NOT come out of that UNDAMGED. Maybe the book can shed some light on that subject for Ms. Coyne
@Millicent
Yes, I get what you're saying now
But most parents wouldn't stop a 13 year old from picking up People in the grocery checkout.
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And they're on the cover! Absolutely their peers will read it.
Of course the girls claim they are not damaged..did anyone expect them to say they are damaged, and then go to school the next day? That would have been fun.
There is no need for a rebuttal from Jon.
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I thought his rebuttal was the In Touch article. Maybe they just excerpeted other interviews he's given recently.
http://www.intouchweekly.com/in-this-issue
They got Zorro on November 24, One Direction tickets went on sale December 7. Seems like there was a lot of bribery going on at that time. Maybe not only for M&C to do the interview, but also for the kids to keep quiet about it.
I, not only think that Kate is disgusting for letting the twins do this interview, but I think People magazine is disgusting for doing it. Now she's opened a new can of worms in which she has made her older daughters subject to criticism from the public.
That is anything but "normal".
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I agree with everything you said.
Her tactics may work for now, but it won't work forever. Their adult relationship with her will be very far from "normal".
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