Friday, September 20, 2013

Robert files Answer to Kate's lawsuit

Robert's attorney, Martin Garbus
Author Robert Hoffman has hired legendary First Amendment attorney Martin Garbus to represent him. His Answer was filed yesterday.

Garbus is asserting the defenses of statute of limitations, failure to state a cause of action, and first amendment protections under opinion, factual statements and matters of public concern. Garbus has defended Nelson Mandela, Cesar Chavez, Robert Redford, Michael Moore, and numerous major First Amendment cases including the famous Ashton v. Kentucky case in 1966, now in every Constitutional Law textbook.

Here is his answer, courtesy of Jon's attorney Shawn Tuma:


Case 5:13-cv-04989-JLS Document 4 Filed 09/19/13 Page 1 of 13
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT EASTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA
__________________________________________ )
KATE GOSSELIN, ) ) Plaintiff, ) ) v. ) ) JONATHAN GOSSELIN, ROBERT HOFFMAN, ) and JOHN AND JANE DOES 1-20 ) ) Defendants. ) __________________________________________)
Case No. 13 Civ. 4989 (JLS)
ROBERT HOFFMAN’S ANSWER TO COMPLAINT
Defendant Robert Hoffman (“Hoffman”), through his undersigned counsel, hereby responds to the allegations of the Complaint, dated August 26, 2013 (the “Complaint”) of plaintiff, Kate Gosselin, with the following Answer:
RESPONSE TO SPECIFIC ALLEGATIONS
1. Denies the allegations of plaintiff’s “Preliminary Statement,” except admits that plaintiff is the mother of eight children, including sextuplets, admits that defendant Jonathan Gosselin (“Jonathan”) had been married to plaintiff, admits that plaintiff and Jonathan are divorced, and admits that plaintiff and Jonathan starred in a popular television reality show called “Jon and Kate Plus 8” or “Kate Plus 8” from in or around 2007 to in or around 2011.
2. Denies knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief concerning the truth of the allegations of paragraphs 1 and 2 of the Complaint.
3. Denies the allegations of paragraph 3 of the Complaint, except admits that Hoffman is an adult individual.
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4. Denies knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief concerning the truth of the allegations of paragraph 4 of the Complaint.
5. law to the
6. law to the
7. law to the
8. law to the
9.
  1. Admits the allegations of paragraph 10 of the Complaint.
  2. Admits the allegations of paragraph 11 of the Complaint.
  3. Denies knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief concerning the truth
of the allegations of paragraph 12 of the Complaint.
13. Denies knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief concerning the truth

of the allegations of paragraph 13 of the Complaint.
14. Denies knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief concerning the truth

of the allegations of paragraph 14 of the Complaint.
15. Denies knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief concerning the truth

of the allegations of paragraph 15 of the Complaint.
16. Denies knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief concerning the truth

of the allegations of paragraph 16 of the Complaint.
Denies the allegations of paragraph 5 of the Complaint, and refers all questions of Court.
Denies the allegations of paragraph 6 of the Complaint, and refers all questions of Court.
Denies the allegations of paragraph 7 of the Complaint, and refers all questions of Court.
Denies the allegations of paragraph 8 of the Complaint, and refers all questions of Court.
Admits the allegations of paragraph 9 of the Complaint.
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  1. Denies the allegations of paragraph 17 of the Complaint.
  2. Denies the allegations of paragraph 18 of the Complaint, and refers all questions
of law to the Court.
19. Denies the allegations of paragraph 19 of the Complaint, except admits that plaintiff is a celebrity and that certain information about her may be of value.
20. Denies knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief concerning the truth of the allegations of paragraph 20 of the Complaint.
21. Denies knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief concerning the truth of the allegations of paragraph 21 of the Complaint.
22. Denies knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief concerning the truth of the allegations of paragraph 22 of the Complaint.
23. Denies knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief concerning the truth of the allegations of paragraph 23 of the Complaint.
24. Denies knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief concerning the truth of the allegations of paragraph 24 of the Complaint.
25. Denies the allegations of paragraph 25 of the Complaint, except admits that Hoffman and Jonathan have a friendship with one another.
  1. Denies the allegations of paragraph 26 of the Complaint.
  2. Denies the allegations of paragraph 27 of the Complaint.
  3. Denies the allegations of paragraph 28 of the Complaint, except denies knowledge
or information sufficient to form a belief concerning Jonathan’s publications, if any. 29. Denies the allegations of paragraph 29 of the Complaint.
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30. Denies the allegations of paragraph 30 legally obtained certain information of public interest disposed of by plaintiff.
  1. Denies the allegations of paragraph 31
  2. Denies the allegations of paragraph 32
  3. Denies the allegations of paragraph 33
  4. Denies the allegations of paragraph 34
of the Complaint, except admits that he about plaintiff, including information
of the Complaint.
of the Complaint.
of the Complaint.
of the Complaint, except admits that he
wrote a book about plaintiff entitled “Kate Gosselin: How She Fooled the World”.
  1. Denies the allegations of paragraph 35 of the Complaint.
  2. Denies the allegations of paragraph 36 of the Complaint.
  3. Denies the allegations of paragraph 37 of the Complaint.
  4. As and for his response to the allegations of paragraph 38 of the Complaint,
repeats and re-alleges his responses to the allegations of Paragraphs 1 through 37 of the Complaint.
39. Denies the allegations of paragraph 39 of the Complaint, and refers all questions of law to the Court.
40. Denies the allegations of paragraph 40 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.
41. Denies the allegations of paragraph 41 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.
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42. Denies the allegations of paragraph 42 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.
43. Denies the allegations of paragraph 43 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.
44. Denies knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief concerning the truth of the allegations of paragraph 44 of the Complaint.
45. Denies knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief concerning the truth of the allegations of paragraph 45 of the Complaint.
46. Denies the allegations of paragraph 46 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.
  1. Denies the allegations of paragraph 47 of the Complaint.
  2. Denies the allegations of paragraph 48 of the Complaint.
  3. Denies the allegations of paragraph 49 of the Complaint.
  4. Denies the allegations of paragraph 50 of the Complaint.
  5. Denies the allegations of paragraph 51 of the Complaint.
  6. As and for his response to the allegations of paragraph 52 of the Complaint,
repeats and re-alleges his responses to the allegations of Paragraphs 1 through 51 of the Complaint.
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53. Denies the allegations of paragraph 53 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Electronic Communications Protection Act.
54. Denies the allegations of paragraph 54 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Electronic Communications Protection Act.
55. Denies the allegations of paragraph 55 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Electronic Communications Protection Act.
56. Denies the allegations of paragraph 56 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Electronic Communications Protection Act.
57. Denies the allegations of paragraph 57 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Electronic Communications Protection Act.
58. Denies the allegations of paragraph 58 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Electronic Communications Protection Act.
59. Denies the allegations of paragraph 59 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Electronic Communications Protection Act.
60. Denies the allegations of paragraph 60 of the Complaint.
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61. Denies the allegations of paragraph 61 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Electronic Communications Protection Act.
  1. Denies the allegations of paragraph 62 of the Complaint.
  2. Denies the allegations of paragraph 63 of the Complaint.
  3. As and for his response to the allegations of paragraph 64 of the Complaint,
repeats and re-alleges his responses to the allegations of Paragraphs 1 through 63 of the Complaint.
65. Denies the allegations of paragraph 65 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Stored Communications Act.
66. Denies the allegations of paragraph 66 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Stored Communications Act.
67. Denies the allegations of paragraph 67 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Stored Communications Act.
68. Denies the allegations of paragraph 68 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Stored Communications Act.
69. Denies the allegations of paragraph 69 of the Complaint.
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70. Denies the allegations of paragraph 70 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Stored Communications Act.
71. As and for his response to the allegations of paragraph 71 of the Complaint, repeats and re-alleges his responses to the allegations of Paragraphs 1 through 70 of the Complaint.
72. Denies the allegations of paragraph 72 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Pennsylvania Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance Act.
73. Denies the allegations of paragraph 73 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Pennsylvania Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance Act.
74. Denies the allegations of paragraph 74 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Pennsylvania Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance Act.
75. Denies the allegations of paragraph 75 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Pennsylvania Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance Act.
  1. Denies the allegations of paragraph 76 of the Complaint.
  2. Denies the allegations of paragraph 77 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court
all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Pennsylvania Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance Act.
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78. As and for his response to the allegations of paragraph 78 of the Complaint, repeats and re-alleges his responses to the allegations of Paragraphs 1 through 77 of the Complaint.
79. Denies the allegations of paragraph 79 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of the Pennsylvania Wiretapping and Electronic Surveillance Act.
  1. Denies the allegations of paragraph 80 of the Complaint.
  2. As and for his response to the allegations of paragraph 81 of the Complaint,
repeats and re-alleges his responses to the allegations of Paragraphs 1 through 80 of the Complaint.
82. Denies the allegations of paragraph 82 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of 18 Pa. C.S. §4120.
83. Denies the allegations of paragraph 83 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the content, meaning and applicability of 18 Pa. C.S. §8315.
  1. Denies the allegations of paragraph 84 of the Complaint.
  2. As and for his response to the allegations of paragraph 85 of the Complaint,
repeats and re-alleges his responses to the allegations of Paragraphs 1 through 84 of the Complaint.
  1. Denies the allegations of paragraph 86 of the Complaint.
  2. Denies the allegations of paragraph 87 of the Complaint.
  3. Denies the allegations of paragraph 88 of the Complaint.
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  1. Denies the allegations of paragraph 89 of the Complaint.
  2. As and for his response to the allegations of paragraph 90 of the Complaint,
repeats and re-alleges his responses to the allegations of Paragraphs 1 through 89 of the Complaint.
  1. Denies the allegations of paragraph 91 of the Complaint.
  2. Denies the allegations of paragraph 92 of the Complaint.
  3. Denies the allegations of paragraph 93 of the Complaint.
  4. Denies the allegations of paragraph 94 of the Complaint.
  5. Denies the allegations of paragraph 95 of the Complaint.
  6. Denies the allegations of paragraph 96 of the Complaint.
  7. Denies the allegations of paragraph 97 of the Complaint.
  8. As and for his response to the allegations of paragraph 98 of the Complaint,
repeats and re-alleges his responses to the allegations of Paragraphs 1 through 97 of the Complaint.
99. Denies the allegations of paragraph 99 of the Complaint, and refers to the Court all questions of law, including all questions concerning the common law of Pennsylvania with respect to privacy.
  1. Denies the allegations of paragraph 100 of the Complaint.
    First Affirmative Defense
  2. The Complaint fails to state a claim upon which relief can be granted.
    Second Affirmative Defense
  3. The Complaint is barred, in whole or in part, by governing statutes of limitations.
    Third Affirmative Defense
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103. If and to the extent plaintiff purports to state a claim for defamation, such claim is barred in whole or in part based on the truth of any statements and comments by defendant about plaintiff.
Fourth Affirmative Defense
104. If and to the extent plaintiff purports to state a claim for defamation, such claim is barred in whole or in part based on the grounds that any statements and comments by defendant about plaintiff constitute constitutionally protected statements of opinion.
Fifth Affirmative Defense
105. If and to the extent plaintiff purports to state a claim for defamation, such claim is barred in whole or in part on the basis of the qualified and conditional privilege with respect to reporting, commentary and statements by defendant on matters of public interest.
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WHEREFORE, defendant requests judgment dismissing the Complaint and awarding to defendant such other and further relief as this Court deems just and proper.
/s/ James P. Golden______________
James P. Golden
I.D. Nos. 32169
HAMBURG & GOLDEN, P.C. 1601 Market Street, Suite 3310 Philadelphia, PA 19103-1443 (215) 255-8590 goldenjp@hamburg-golden.com

Martin Garbus, Esq. (pro hac vice pending) Brendan R. Marx, Esq. (pro hac vice pending) Eaton & VanWinkle, LLP
3 Park Avenue

16th Floor
New York, NY 10016 bmarx@evw.com MGarbus@evw.com Telephone: (212) 779-9910 Facsimile: (212) 779-9928
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Dated: September 19, 2013
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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I, James P. Golden, certify that the foregoing answer has been filed electronically and is now available for viewing and downloading from the Court’s Electronic Case Filing System and that the answer has been served on September 19, 2013, by email and regular mail.
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A. Jordan Rushie, Esquire Mulvihill & Rushie LLC
The Fishtown Lawyer
2424 E. York Street, Suite 316 Philadelphia, PA 19125 Jordan@FishtownLaw.com

Marc J. Randazza, Esquire Randazza Legal Group 3625 S. Town Center Drive Las Vegas, NV 89135 mjr@randazza.com
Attorneys for Plaintiff Kate Gosselin
Shawn E. Tuma, Esquire BrittonTuma
7161 Bishop Road, Suite 220 Plano, Texas 75024 stuma@brittontuma.com

Richard L. Orwig, Esquire Orwig Law Offices
2213 Quarry Dr., Suite B001 West Lawn, PA 19609 rlorwig@orwiglaw.com

Attorneys for defendant Jonathan K. Gosselin
Dated: September 19, 2013
/s/ James P. Golden JAMES P. GOLDEN
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Rhymes with Witch said...

I predict that this stalking incident and Jon's (legal and rational)response will be a topic of TFW's interviews, giving her another
opportunity to throw him under the bus.

Although the police have spoken (:she could be charged with criminal trespass), I doubt that that will be mentioned.

So glad that Jon and Robert have such good legal representation. The court of public opinion matters not in the bigger picture.
Unless of course, you're trying to score a tv show.

Paula said...

Mel, just what was "dumb" about what Jon did? Also, I think most people would do the same thing if they were in Jon's shoes. I don't see this as a negative against Jon. This person(s) in this car could have dangerous motives.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I don't see this as a negative against Jon. This person(s) in this car could have dangerous motives.


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He made it very clear he had a weapon and would use it to protect himself and his children. They had fair warning.

I don't see it as a negative, I think it's actually going to be a positive. Seems to me except for a few rabid sheeple people are saying I would do the same thing. Milo says can you imagine if Kate did this? Yes, I can. And I would be relieved she stood up for them and surprised but relieved that she has a firearm. I would also want to know if the kids are okay and whether she would press chargers against the stalker. There are some unstable out there who seek to harm celebrities and there is a long and sad history of it.

And good point about it doesn't matter if the kids were home. He needs to set boundaries for his private property when the kids ARE there. The paps could show up later when they are home if he doesn't do it now.

Frankly, if more celebrities stood up for themselves like this paps would be less of a problem. If you know you could be shot if you trespassed, you'd think twice.

AuntieAnn said...

Poor Kate even her henchmen is saying ehh seems a reasonable response to me. She doesn't want to chime in with her support too?

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Maybe she's out applying for a food server position.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Just my opinion, but I really don't think this was a "real" Pap that followed Jon. I don't think they usually follow people onto private property?

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I had the same thought. Maybe some locals can chime in but I thought most of the paps were actually pretty respectful of boundaries at this point. They would park themselves at the fence but would not go any farther and they didn't go to the school. The rare photos we see lately are almost exclusively from wide open public places. It's been ages since we got a photo at the house or bus stop.

I know there were a few hiding in the fields but I believe those days are gone.

I wonder if this was some amateur who saw that they're back in the news and thought she'd try to sell a few photos. These days, everyone can be a pap. That said it is no excuse for being so intrusive.

Bitchy Pants said...

Admin -- Theresa Saldana was attacked and brutally stabbed in broad daylight, too, in her own front yard, by a crazed fan. I think the Sheeple are incapable of logic in any circumstance. They're just like TFMJG. 1+1 doesn't = 2 in their universe.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Selena was also killed during the day, in broad daylight. She was shot in a hotel then chased down the halls of the hotel to the lobby, around about lunchtime.

Rhymes with Witch said...

I wonder if this was some amateur who saw that they're back in the news and thought she'd try to sell a few photos. These days, everyone
can be a pap. That said it is no excuse for being so intrusive. 194

I'm guessing that it was someone who thought it would be some sort of coup to score pictures of Jon's little house in the big woods.
($$$$$$$$)

I too hope Jon files a police report.

chefsummer said...

Rebecca Schaeffer killed by a stalker.
John Lennon killed by a fan
Dominique Dunne killed by her ex.

AnnieD said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 184
"Anyone could borrow or get a cheap SLR camera that looks like a pap camera and pose as a photographer but have other more dangerous intentions".
This did happen to an 11-year old girl, Alison Parrott, in Toronto back in the '80s". "At about 11 o'clock on the morning of July 25, 1986, she received a phone call at her Summerhill Avenue home in midtown Toronto. A male caller, claiming to be a photographer, asked her to meet him at the University of Toronto's Varsity Stadium where, he said, he would be taking publicity photos of her and her teammates." The story had a tragic ending. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alison_Parrott
Another aspect of this story should concern the Gosselins. These children have not been raised to be wary of strangers. Kate, in particular, has encouraged them to bond and pose for strangers with cameras. They will be very vulnerable due to their exposure and familiarity to the public.

Meagler said...

My big post about Manipulators doesnt seem to be going through, but this is what they do..intimidate and table switch. Its crazy making behavior, and msgoody is becoming a classic example...along with Milo, BV TFW and many others.

Its okay for all of them to do this behavior but no one else. Classic Narcssistic and manipulative behavior.

It can get me all wound up, but then I remember, that is exactly what they want us to do. Just laugh it off.

I predict BV, TFW (doesnt say anything herself, but lets others do her bidding for her and then says "who ? little ol me? No way, I am taking the high road") Milo and MSgoody will really ramp up the manipulation and crazy making behavior over the next few weeks, hoping to ramp up Jon and RH into speaking out. I truly hope Jon and RH stay quiet, quiet quiet and let this all play out in the court of law!


Meagler said...

Milo, bad things dont just happen at night...you have teens hopefully you know that!!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Friends of ours, when the husband was just a teenager, he was just in his home having dinner with his family. Intruders came in, I believe they claimed they wanted to use the phone. They killed both his parents and shot him too but he survived.

I bet he wishes to god his dad had had a gun. He was an ORPHAN because of those psychopaths. This stuff happens and yes this is everything we feared, that someone would follow and hunt down someone in this family onto their private property and perhaps much worse.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Attempts to assassinate Pope John Paul, Ronald Reagan. Gerald Ford, John F. Kennedy, Lee Harvey Oswald, Malcolm X (the last 3 successful)
all happened in broad daylight.

President Ford was surrounded by Secret Service and shot by a women. James Brady was permanently disabled. (The Brady Bill,
Milo, hello.........)

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Selena. Also shot by a woman.

So this ridiculous oh it was a woman oh it was broad daylight is just that: ridiculous.

Meagler said...

Another thing...none of the sheeple have mentioned the motion to dismiss or RH's answers with " I see you in court".

Do you really think they dont know, or has there been a bunch of DMing to each other to not mention this so mainstream media ( or ROL, TMZ, etc) or the rest of the masses dont find out about this?

Kate's lawsuit hit mainstream media, but these 2 responses have yet to do so... think its deliberate?

HMMM...

Rhymes with Witch said...

Another aspect of this story should concern the Gosselins. These children have not been raised to be wary of strangers. Kate, in
particular, has encouraged them to bond and pose for strangers with cameras. They will be very vulnerable due to their exposure and
familiarity to the public.
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This bears repeating, as we can certainly come up with innumerable examples from the "crew daddies" to the run in CT (child on Emily's
lap) and so on.

Sunset Blvd said...

I know Jon was within his rights, and he certainly made his point with the stalker. However, ever since I heard that he carries a gun in the waistband of his pants, I have been a little apprehensive. He has eight kids coming in and out of his house, and to me, it just seems like perfect situation for a terrible accident to occur. I hope and pray that never happens. It must be difficult to weigh the pros and cons of carrying a deadly weapon, especially in Jon's situation. I can certainly understand Jon's concern. What if it has been Ms Goody coming to live out her fantasies?

Meagler said...

The comments by Milo that it " was just a woman" is an attempt to emasculate Jon.

The Facts listed by others of very real situations where people have been killed by "just a woman" proves that woman can too be dangerous.

Equality at its ( not so) finest...

cathyn518 said...

I haven't posted in ages but have stopped by fairly regularly to keep up with this continuing drama. I have always felt so sorry for the Gosselin 8 but now I am finding myself feeling almost more sympathy for Jon. So many people are seizing on the statement he made about not paying child support on the ET interview to call him a deadbeat Dad. Isn't it obvious who has the money the children made by comparing lifestyles? Now Jon reacts to a strange woman on his property with firing off a warning and he is called a menace. All the obsessed twitter haters are woman, he was understandably feeling threatened.

Anonymous said...

To read amazon discussions you may type this address: www.amazon.com/Kate-Gosselins-Love-Mix-Family.../forum/
or just google Amazon, discussion forum on Love is in the mix
The discussions used to be at the bottom of the page where her book is sold on Amazon, but it has been moved. We have been commenting there for months. Very amusing.

Turkey Lurkey-sorry couldn't sign in, been lurking for a long time

pym said...

Since this pap made money by selling this photo while committing an illegal act should that money not be forfeit? The very little I know about the law suggests no one can profit from an illegal act. I know, I know, people do it all the time -- but this was so blatant. Is there recourse?

OrangeCrusher1 said...

If you google Old Navy coupons you can find plenty out there, on your own. I fail to understand why anyone would go to her website, so convoluted. If she had a following of more than a dozen people, nope, still makes no sense to me. Sorry, Kate, this is NOT a job.

Rhymes with Witch said...

So this ridiculous oh it was a woman oh it was broad daylight is just
that: ridiculous. 13

One of the traits that the sheeple (not including generic fans) appear to have in common with TFW is a belief in rigid gender stereotypes.

For every one of TFW's "can do" moments, there are scores of "poor helpless me" examples.

Rhymes with Witch said...

One more thing. Before anyone says the woman following Jon didn't have a gun, NO ONE knows that except her and I'll bet she'll never
admit it if she did.

AnnieD said...

Fired Up 4 Kate‏@MiloandJack5h
@Kateplusmy8 I don't think rural PA is the #WildWildWest & a female pap is hardly going 2pose a physical danger 4a healthy able bodied male!
Hmmm...what about Jody Arias?????

TLC stinks said...

Jon is deliberately living somewhere in private. He has his rights. The pap should be charged with trespassing. Period. Jon did the right thing. I've lived out in the country. It's scary sometimes. You need protection and 911 takes too long if you feel threatened. He aplenty has been threatened or he would not carry a gun.

fidosmommy said...

Re: Old Navy and the boys. TFW probably bought their shirts and pants last year. They just rolled up sleeves and cuffs, right?

And their shoes too so they can "man up".

Remona Blue said...

On Huffington Post's article about the incident, most of the responses I've read are on Jon's side. The responses seem to be focusing on the fact that Jon lives in the woods because he wants a ''private life'', and the fact that the woman followed him onto his property. Many simply responded variations of 'leave the man alone'.

Thank goodness most people (with the usual exception of TFW's most ardent fans) actually seem to 'get it'...Jon wants privacy and will protect that right, in contrast to TFMJG, who wants to be very public...even using Jon's children to bring attention to her!

Mel said...

I was thinking about the kids, too, and hoping they weren't there. And how frightened they must have been if they heard/saw it. At least they know that their dad can and will protect them.
Pretty sad that their privacy is again invaded. Will it never end for them?

Ex Nurse said...

Ally--thank you for the source of the dates. 

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/12/18/jon.kate.divorce.final/index.html

"(CNN) -- After 10 years of marriage, Jon and Kate Gosselin's divorce was finalized by a Pennsylvania judge on Friday.
Kate Gosselin received primary custody of the couple's eight children and will continue to live with them in the former marital home, according to her attorney Mark Momjian, who added that Kate and her legal team "are very pleased with the final outcome."

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I don't think rural PA is the #WildWildWest

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What does the Wild Wild West mean? Huh?

But yes, PA is pretty darn rural. Has MILO ever lived there? I have, as have others. This is not Philly or Pittsburgh or even Harrisburg. It is going to take 10 minutes minimum to get a cop out there, realistically 20-30.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

going 2pose a physical danger 4a healthy able bodied male!

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She stalked her all the way from his workplace to his home and came onto his property. He told her, asked her to stop repeatedly. She continued to take photos even as he finally resorted to his gun.

If that doesn't give any rational person a real healthy dose of fear of danger I don't know what was. She was NOT listening. The pap could have avoided this entire thing had she just turned around the first time he asked.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Yes Milo females have never hurt anyone. In the history of the world there are absolutely no incidents of females ever hurting anyone and certainly not celebrities.

Goodness, talk about ignorance.

Jumping In said...

Although I always want to defend Jon any chance I get, I really wish he had not fired that warning shot. I realize he was within his rights, this person was trespassing, but this will be spun badly. I agree with Mel, this is not good.

I can see him being randomly provoked at every opportunity now just to see what kind of reaction he'll provide. Remember, he is the stable parent, but now we have a picture of him pulling a gun out of his back pocket. Kate's camp will have a field day with this. The facts will be lost or twisted in her favour, that's how Jon's life goes, and that is just how TFW likes it, keeping him looking like the bad guy.

I don't know how threatened he felt, how frustrated he feels being back in the news, but honestly, I really wish he hadn't done that ET interview, he sort of blew his own cover, and now he will be hounded again.

Most of the tabloid press is already painting him as a guy who has hit "rock-bottom", who is living "in the woods" and a loser who is waiting tables for a living. His chosen humble life can easily be translated to a guy who has lost it all and has become unhinged in the process. And, that is my worry, how the tabloids will spin this incident, even though he had the right to run this person off his property.


Paula said...

@Jumping In....Do you really think Jon cares about how the tabloid press is going to spin this? He's been crucified for years from the tabloid press. He did nothing wrong in this case and quite frankly, the world does not revolve around, nor most normal people could care less, what the tabloid press writes.

swimgirl said...

Good grief, Milo, it is not his property, he rents? So only people who own their own houses can defend themselves? What about people who have mortgages, are they allowed to defend themselves? Is she serious? Sometimes all I can do is shake my head at her nonsense.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


So if Milo were alone and a stranger followed her home and onto her private property, would she give the person a bear hug and invite him/her into her house for a piece of pecan pie and a cup of coffee?


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Probably. And then days later probably tweet passive aggressively about how she gives and gives and her stalker doesn't appreciate it. She gave her a piece of pie and the stalker didn't even bother to rent a plane to spell I love you Milo in the sky over her house. The nerve.

Anonymous said...

WWSD?

Those fans (if that is what they think they are to KG) need to ask themselves, if it had been STEVE instead of JON, what would Steve do?

Most logical people know the answer to that question. And, rightfully so.

That Milo person is borderline on a flip. When he/she is not the center of all of the attention, it goes into panic mode and each episode is worse than the last, aka the link to the twitter pic saying he/she was not appreciated, then today all good back at the helm.

It sayn' it was going to KG's house that night was beyond creepy. He/she put it out there and made it very real that she/he actually thought about doing it until people were like biatch, what is wrong with you?

What if that was a "Milo" type person going after JG or his kids?
WTF would you do people? The po po need to leave JG alone as he has every right to protect his self and his family and his property.

Milo wonder what you will say when you get subpoenaed someday?

Rhymes with Witch said...

Since this pap made money by selling this photo while committing an illegal act should that money not be forfeit? The very little I know
about the law suggests no one can profit from an illegal act. I know,I know, people do it all the time -- but this was so blatant. Is there
recourse? 28

pym, very good question.

Anonymous said...

Milo (hate that name) has made him/herself infamous off of KG. There is no way KG does not know who this person is, no way? She gets more attention than KG on Kate's personal twitter. People tune in to see what Milo says, not KG! LOL

Anonymous said...

It's ok to sit in her lap kids...she has the same name as mommy!

Remona Blue said...

Meagler said... 17
''The comments by Milo that it " was just a woman" is an attempt to emasculate Jon.
The Facts listed by others of very real situations where people have been killed by "just a woman" proves that woman can too be dangerous.
Equality at its ( not so) finest...
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I agree. I suppose that Milo has been too involved with her heroine to know of the name Jodi Arias?

SusanNH said...

Customer Discussions > Kate Gosselin's Love Is in the Mix

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ncgirl said...

Women who killed men: Betty Broderick and Aileen Wuornos.

Remona Blue said...

Meagler said... 17
''The comments by Milo that it " was just a woman" is an attempt to emasculate Jon.
The Facts listed by others of very real situations where people have been killed by "just a woman" proves that woman can too be dangerous.
Equality at its ( not so) finest...
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I agree. I suppose that Milo has been too involved with her heroine to know of the name Jodi Arias?

Anonymous said...

Jodi Arias, Casey Anthony

Don't forget the monsters with Manson. Women..Yea whatever M I L O

Rhymes with Witch said...

I agree with this and should have said so in my previous comment(currently 22).

I also think that the flock contains a fair number of misandrists and women who adhere to rigid gender stereotypes.

PatK said...

I still get a kick out of Kate fans who say that Jon loses by how hot Kate looks now. Really? Do they not realize how ugly she is on the INSIDE? He probably still thanks God every day that he's away from that witch.

Katykat said...

Sheeple...especially the Head Sheeple, are just grasping at straws because they know TFW's goose is cooked w/ the two upcoming lawsuits. Making noise about anything and everything before the entire world knows that their beloved queen abused her kids and the dogs.
Scream loud to deflect, deflect deflect.
But the problem is...Jon was perfectly w/in his legal rights to do what he did. He's 2 for 2, while TFW is 0 for everything.

Mel said...

If this woman was so busy taking photos, who was driving the car?

She surely wasn't driving AND taking focused pics. Or had she stopped? (Even more scary to think about.)

And just exactly how did Jon know that the people in the car didn't have a gun or other weapon? He didn't know, and couldn't know.
How frightening.

I wonder how Milo would like some person following her home, and then taking photos to plaster all over the tabloids/internet, totally invading her privacy, her carefully hidden abode.

Rhymes with Witch said...

My previous comment did not post in it's entirety. I was referencing another poster's comment. It should read:

Meagler said... 17
''The comments by Milo that it " was just a woman" is an attempt to emasculate Jon.
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I agree with this and should have said so in my previous comment (currently 22). I also think that the flock contains a fair number of
misandrists and women who adhere to rigid gender stereotypes.

Anonymous said...

Kate is beautiful. She is. She was pretty before the improvements. She did not need them and this was one time, perfect example, where enhancements actually went against a celeb. Fans wanted a "mommy" figure.

Who ever it was that kept telling her to re-invent herself is, imo, the sole reason her career was derailed. Not cause of ex or author. I agree with CAI and EmT. She lost her way... and lost self awareness.

When she posed down under for BG in front of her kids like a PB model, selling her own adult type layout pics, she was pretty much finished. People can not get that image out of mind, and it helped to ruin her career, even though she was breathtakingly beautiful. Wrong place, wrong time Katie.

Sleepless In Seattle said...


I wonder how Milo would like some person following her home, and then taking photos to plaster all over the tabloids/internet, totally invading her privacy, her carefully hidden abode.

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Nobody would want Milo.

Has anyone asked her if this had been Kate who had been followed, would Kate have been justified in pulling a gun and firing a warning shot?

Remona Blue said...

Mel said... 47
''If this woman was so busy taking photos, who was driving the car?
She surely wasn't driving AND taking focused pics. Or had she stopped? (Even more scary to think about.)
And just exactly how did Jon know that the people in the car didn't have a gun or other weapon? He didn't know, and couldn't know.
How frightening.

I wonder how Milo would like some person following her home, and then taking photos to plaster all over the tabloids/internet, totally invading her privacy, her carefully hidden abode''
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mel, those are very good questions, especially the last one. Milo has tweeted over and over that she lives in the country at the end of a winding road AND that she has been 'stalked'. Milo has tweeted many times that the stalker is the reason she protects her children's privacy so carefully.
(I suppose we are supposed to ignore that while carefully protecting her own children's privacy, she has zero respect for the privacy of Jon Gosselin's children!)

Lalalalala said...

I have seen her fans say many, many times that they will stand by Kate no matter what. Is this stubbornness, stupidity or embarrassment as a way to save face when they know they're wrong? I'm guessing that it's all three.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Anonymous said... 51
I don't think Kate was was ever "beautiful." I think she was a nice looking young mom with a pretty smile. I also cannot agree that whomever told her to reinvent herself was the "sole" reason her career tanked. She has nothing to offer talent-wise. And she can't even do an interview of someone else without making it about herself. She's solely responsible for why she cannot get another job in media (or anywhere else apparently.)

OrangeCrusher1 said...

People can not get that image out of mind, and it helped to ruin her career, even though she was breathtakingly beautiful.

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Kate is many things; and before she took to the knife and whatever else she has done, she had a fresh and attractive look. Breathtakingly beautiful is/was not a KG descriptor. She has ruined her career with the total lack of beauty that is her inner core. Actually, what career? A few years of nursing, a few years of reality tv?

Ex Nurse said...

ITA that Jon acted appropriately. I am not a gun advocate, and, I sincerely hope that he has had extensive training. If he is in a rural area that is off the map, then the authorities may not be able to get there in a timely manner, either. This is wear the groupthink of the sheeple really shows a lack of critical thinking, or, even, common sense.

I think that Jon has possibly underestimated the interest and the risk of returning to the public eye. The recent media coverage of his new job and the lawsuit will generate interest, and he probably needs to be very attentive--especially if someone is behind him for the entire trip home. It certainly isn't his fault that he has been dragged into the public eye again by TFW's lawsuit. If you think about it, if it hadn't been this pap, it would have been another one--it would be just a matter of time.

I think Jon should press charges, if for no other reason, to show that he is serious about his, and the kids' privacy.

This is my last post on the wording of the motion--promise! The fact that the posters that responded disputed different aspects of the wording shows that it is not straightforward. Some people thought that it was an earlier set of disks than the final set, putting the date in late 2009. Others thought that it was the final set, but that it occured after the custody hearing. Why not just say the date? Why tie it to the divorce date, which was finalized with TFW getting primary custody, in December 2009, if it actually took place in April 2010? Why only say he had access to the house, if he also had continued access to the apartment? It seems that this would be the time to lay out a very solid, unambiguous timeline of events. Should be absolutely black and white, not shades of grey.

Over In TFW's County said...

I still get a kick out of Kate fans who say that Jon loses by how hot Kate looks now.

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She doesn't look hot. Trust me on that. I have never seen such a wrinkled neck on someone so young. With all of her other "improvement techniques" she has gone through, I'm surprised taking care of that wasn't first on her list.

In reading back over the posts here, I'm always intrigued that posters here are so smart, so way ahead of the game. Someone commented that this pap should go ahead and file a police report, but better watch out because she was trespassing on private property. Lo and behold, that's exactly what happened...and this pap person couldn't figure that out on her own?

"Yes Milo females have never hurt anyone. In the history of the world there are absolutely no incidents of females ever hurting anyone and certainly not celebrities.

Goodness, talk about ignorance."

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If one is that ignorant, would you advertise your stupidity on Twitter? When you're this stupid, you don't confirm it! Then again, maybe she's too dumb to know she's dumb. What a conundrum.

SeeSaw said...

Breathtakingly beautiful????

As my dear departed grandma used to say
Pretty is as pretty does

Or

Beauty is only skin deep but nasty goes all the way to the bone.

Thanks Anon for the best laugh I've had in weeks.

kymon said...

Remona Blue (36)
Jon gave an interview and never once used her name. He called her ''my former wife'' every single time. I had been using KK, because Jon and the children are Gosselins, but she is not. On this blog, we started using TFW, and TFMJG. I don't know about the others, but every time I see TFW or TFMJG, I think of it as supporting Jon.
__________________

Thank you Remona Blue for the explanation.

chefsummer said...

Anonymous said... 51
Kate is beautiful. She is. She was pretty before the improvements. She did not need them
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I agree Kate was very naturally pretty and beautiful at sometimes.

Now she looks like plastic like barbies. IDK what she did to her body but I hope she done getting worked on.

Kate is a twit said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 1h
@Kateplusmy8 Are U abt packed & ready 4nxt week! #LoveIsInTheMix bk tour! Yay! Can't wait 2see media interviews as well @KatieShow :)

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 11m
@MiloandJack @KatieShow No. I cooked ALL day after grocery shopping. Freezing my #LoveIsInTheMix meals for kids while I'm away! :)

So who's going to be taking care of the kids while Kate's away? The nanny or babysitter that she and her sheeple say she doesn't have?

How come they're not asking her about that?

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 12m
@MiloandJack @KatieShow No. I cooked ALL day after grocery shopping. Freezing my #LoveIsInTheMix meals for kids while I'm away! :)

MARIE ‏@MY_3BCOLLIES 6m
@Kateplusmy8 @MiloandJack @KatieShow Way to go! You're a wonderful thoughtful mom planning ahead so your children have good nutritious meals
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Yes, so thoughtful. Other moms don't do that when they have to leave their children. Most moms just leave a piece of moldy cheese and rancid milk. Kate deserves The Medal of Honor.

Amy2 said...

#theresnogoingback

pixie said...

When the lawsuit was filed, I was the one who brought the link to the Santoro's statements about the hacking. I am very consistent that logic has to support the facts. Argument and debate are in my religious culture************

I appreciate your well thought out posts Ex Nurse. The blind devotion to Jon confuses me. Now that he thinks he's George Zimmerman, it confuses me even more.

Someone's going to get hurt. There's no need for gun violence.

boo said...

"Breathtaking" reminds me of a great Seinfeld episode. Anyone else remember?

Over In TFW's County said...

Sam ‏@sammyj91 1h

@Kateplusmy8, @Ngoldfarb and I can't wait to get the pre-ordered version of your book! You are a hero!

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How many versions of the cookbook are out there? LOL!! Maybe there's a better one coming -- one with photos of the food that actually match the recipes!

Rhymes with Witch said...

This is my last post on the wording of the motion--promise! The fact that the posters that responded disputed different aspects of the
wording shows that it is not straightforward. 56

Not to continue this thread, but hopefully to end it. Both Jon and Robert have extremely competent attorneys who have research staff of
their own. I suggest we leave them to it.
Time will tell.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

I guess I missed the "gun violence." I'll have to go read the article again.

pixie said...

Welp. whatever 'goodwill' Jon was getting from the public is now erased.

The hell is he thinking??

Dmasy said...

Tweet-Le-De, "moldy cheese and rancid milk"...thanks for a good laugh.

Maybe the children would like a meal prepared by someone else.

localyocul said...

Boo that's some snuggly breathtaking baby!

Anonymous said...

56...Kate is pretty and she is beautiful to look at, at certain times. Her twitter pic is beautiful. Her bikini pics were beautiful in the white suit. I mean the girl is a looker. But, it gets her no where. And it is not the fault of the ex or the author.

Yes, beauty is only skin deep. True..The point I was trying to make is; She had the looks, the body, the hair, the smile to make it as something really, really big as a celeb. And friends, she is a celeb, just as JG is a celeb too. Bad as some hate to admit, she is a celeb and so are her children.

But, she kept evolving into something else on a regular basis. Like what has been discussed before. God wife renewing her vows, a book author, an organic food expert. Single mom farmer. Expert cook, perfect mom, triathlete marathon runner, spokesperson, blogger, coupon queen, tv host, started or tried to start a line of childrens clothing. but none of it panned out.

Most of it fizzled long before RH came along or before the divorce, as she did not have any substantial credentials, education or training to back any of it up. She could not cut the mustard.

She thought her looks would carry her, and they didn't, no, not at all.

Paula said...

Yep, pixie, Jon thinks he is George Zimmerman...you sheeple aren't very bright. Aren't you embarrassed at your ignorance? I know I'm embarrassed for you.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

George Zimmerman? You've got to be kidding me. This is nothing like that situation. George Zimmerman pursued Trevan. Trevan never once came on George Zimmerman's property. If anyone is George Zimmerman it's the pap for chasing down trouble.

Lalalalala said...

There's no need for gun violence.

88888888

Good Lord, I've heard it all. Someone better check the sheeple gate. I think some got out.

Remona Blue said...

pixie said... 65
''....The blind devotion to Jon confuses me. Now that he thinks he's George Zimmerman, it confuses me even more.
Someone's going to get hurt. There's no need for gun violence.''
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Pixie, perhaps you are confused because Jon does NOT think he's George Zimmerman, and there was no gun ''violence''.

Instead, hopefully Jon has made it very clear that he has a license to carry a concealed weapon, and will not hesitate to protect himself, and his children!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Pixie, I believe the majority of people in the US support the 2nd Amendment, especially when someone is trespassing. Most of the comments I saw regarding this gun situation have been supportive of Jon.

Anonymous said...

Jon Gosselin looks very scared in that picture and all of the anger should be placed on this woman stalker who followed him home AND TRESPASSED.

No NORMAL pap would have kept coming at him after he told her to stop several times. She should be charged by the authorities.

To me, this is serious and scary for JG. Had the woman not gone to the police to report the incident, I would have been more concerned that she may return. Anyone can call themselves a pap.

If there are no threats or danger Milo, why does KG need Steve Neild to bodyguard her? The children only have a fence and a dog when mommy leaves them. Not a nanny isn't going to have a weapon.

I said it years ago, saying it again today. WHAT A FREAKING MESS.

Smoochie said...

I have never responded directly to a post here to dispute someone else's statement, but, feel I should do so now.

Pixie said "...The blind devotion to Jon confuses me. Now that he thinks he's George Zimmerman, it confuses me even more."

I do not see blind devotion to Jon. I see defense of Jon, debate over his behaviour, some positive, some negative, but not blind devotion. However, that is your perception of what you believe to be true and thus your opinion, which is acceptable.

However, to say that he thinks he's George Zimmerman ... Jon was the one that was followed. Jon did not get in his car and follow this woman, get out of his car, confront her and then shoot her to death.

In this instance your comparison is not a perception, it's based on factual evidence of 2 events and this situation is nothing even remotely similar to what George Zimmerman did and your comparing Jon to him is infinitely unfair to Jon.

Over In TFW's County said...

Kate is beautiful. She is. She was pretty before the improvements. She did not need them...

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Wrong verb. WAS very pretty. Not now, not without lots of makeup and photoshopping. Improvements?

http://www.viprumor.com/2010/06/30/kate-gosselin-thinks-jogging-will-help/

She shouldn't have played around with her looks. When the kids were toddlers and she had that short pixie haircut she was pretty, natural good looks. Not everyone could pull off that haircut, but she could. She had very nice features.

Then she went for the Mr. Spock look and it really didn't work for her!

http://news.makemeheal.com/celebrity-plastic-surgery/kate-gosselin-botched-botox/1177

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Are we having a sheeple stampede?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Correct, 73 percent of Americans support the 2nd amendment at least in some form, even if they believe in some restrictions. The repeal guns lobby is very vocal, and perhaps it has convinced people that it is a more support than it really does. It does not.

I'm surprised at the sheeple, since a lot of them seem to be incredibly vocal of their deeply conservative beliefs, which usually supports the second amendment and certainly would if it actually had to be put into action. I am pleased at most of the comments around the web that they understand what he did and are outraged at the pap.

Again, not a single question from the sheeple about whether the kids are okay.

Remona Blue said...

pixie said... 70
''Welp. whatever 'goodwill' Jon was getting from the public is now erased.
The hell is he thinking??''
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Welp, are you confining your reading of the incident when Jon protected himself and his property on TFW's timeline?
I ask because everywhere else I've read, the comments or overwhelmingly on Jon's side for protecting his and his children's privacy.

Over In TFW's County said...

If he is in a rural area that is off the map, then the authorities may not be able to get there in a timely manner, either. This is wear the groupthink of the sheeple really shows a lack of critical thinking, or, even, common sense.

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It is very rural. I know the area, and there is no way the person stalking him couldn't have known that it was not a public road. No way. You're right -- the police wouldn't have been there immediately. Has it been reported exactly where this confrontation took place? Was it directly in front of his house, or on the way to his house...down the road?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...



It is very rural. I know the area, and there is no way the person stalking him couldn't have known that it was not a public road. No way.

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Where I'm from rural private roads like that always have big red "posted" signs or no trespassing signs. You can't miss them, I guess unless you are more focused on chasing down a car than the signs.

Melissa NV said...

People can not get that image out of mind, and it helped to ruin her career, even though she was breathtakingly beautiful.

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I must have missed that. When was she "breathtakingly beautiful?"

chefsummer said...

Anonymous said... 73

Milo is that you?-(LOL)

Anonymous said...

I am outraged because I can honestly say, from first hand witnessed experience, I know what could have happened and what has happened in these type of situations.

Had JG not had a weapon, how far would that woman have gone to get what she came there for? JG is not GZ and there is no comparison.

Lady, loosely used, JG was on his own property when a complete stranger came face to face with him. What would you have done different in this situation Pixie?

911 Help is at least 15-20 minutes away. Do pray tell, what would you have done to protect your children and yourself at that very moment of confrontation?

I still believe there is more to this story as to why she was there or who sent her. TFW leaving for her Gilligan Island Tour, the kids with dad, the lawsuit not swinging in her favor, the book is a downward spiral...Makes a reasonable person wonder...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

#Iaminchargeandthat'snevergoingtochange

***


#tumasinchargenow

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

I, for one, don't think there was something nefarious going on. If I were "contracted" to go scare someone (and screwed it up) I wouldn't give the pictures to a gossip magazine then go to the police.

Remona Blue said...

chefsummer said... 89
''Anonymous said... 73
Milo is that you?-(LOL)''
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Because the response numbers are off again, I first thought you were talking about Pixie and her 'concern' for Jon's image. When I realized you were talking about the poster that keeps talking about TFW's ''breathtaking beauty'', I snorted Sunkist out my nose! Now off to clean my desk...thank you for the laugh.

Rhymes with Witch said...

I'm surprised at the sheeple, since a lot of them seem to be incredibly vocal of their deeply conservative beliefs, which usually
supports the second amendment and certainly would if it actually had to be put into action. 83

Com'on Admin. That pesky 2nd Amendment only applies to TFW, certainly not to Jon.

Over In TFW's County said...

Could these anonymice PLEASE pick a name, or at least sign the posts? Please? I'll give you all extra shots of Rumspringa if you do!

Rhymes with Witch said...

This should have been in my last post:

I am not anti guns, but I am pro gun control. Jon has a legal concealed carry permit. The stalker was engaging in criminal trespass. He told her to stop, she didn't. He fired a warning shot. The end.

Over In TFW's County said...


Where I'm from rural private roads like that always have big red "posted" signs or no trespassing signs. You can't miss them, I guess unless you are more focused on chasing down a car than the signs.

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There are dirt roads all over the place. Even an idiot could tell that those aren't public roads. I know our country roads aren't the best, but public roads are paved! I wonder if the person was a local just looking to make some quick bucks with the photos. It wouldn't surprise me at all.

Anonymous said...

ok 95..just4you my name

and that was funny what you said about the cookbook and pictures. i laughed out loud. hard to make me laugh.

not laughing at danger Jg was in today.

Over In TFW's County said...

I'm surprised at the sheeple, since a lot of them seem to be incredibly vocal of their deeply conservative beliefs, which usually supports the second amendment

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Are you sure they know what an "amendment" is?

Susie Cincinnati said...

Now THIS made me snort the Sunkist!

MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 After all the work & intense scheduled traveling U do next wk..I think U will need some time 4this >> pic.twitter.com/MfUNL5aldK

bitemeaholes
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 aww how cute. Where did you get a picture of Kate's 5 fans. So sweet

Ingrid said...

Black Dog Cafe @BlackDogStPaul

It all makes sense now, the incessant calls from @TMZ and #KateGosselin 's attorney. http://www.neontommy.com/news/2013/09/jon-gosselin-waiting-tables-and-living-cabin … Did he split w/ #EdHardy too?

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TMZ AND TFW's attorney are not too smart. They were calling the wrong restaurant. I don't care for TMZ after the time they posted Jon's social security number on a picture of some sort of paper.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

It's so obvious Kate doesn't want to see her fans. She tweets how excited she is to meet them and sign their books but she refuses to put her schedule on her blog or even direct them to HCI's FB page. She's only got 3 signings and the Baltimore Book Fair. She can't tweet that to her poor fans?

Rain said...

Because his narcissist ex wife is a fame whore, the tabloid media think Jon is fair game. I say BS. He has had enough abuse. Go creep around TFW's house, just remember to bring gift cards and take off your shoes. And don't knock the rubber maid white plastic chair off its moorings.
I am willing to bet Kate Gosselin has made many many phone calls to the tabloid media when she is feeling down...or backed into a corner.

swimgirl said...

Boo said:


"Breathtaking" reminds me of a great Seinfeld episode. Anyone else remember?
********

Jerry, you have to see the baby!!

Honestly said...

Just what he didn't need. Public opinion finally starting to tip in his favor, and then something dumb happens. Again.

He just can't seem to avoid tripping on his own two feet, can he.

Now there will be problems with the job...who wants TMZ calling them all the time? (Although maybe this will be good for busines...all the paps coming in for dinner and requesting a certain waiter. :-))
And TFW will surely have her attys in court fighting for 100% custody now.
His lawyer hasn't realized yet that Jon just can't stay out of trouble.
A change in strategy is needed.

Not that he isn't withing his rights to defend himself here, but why, why, why.....

Deep sigh.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mel, I co-sign your post. Jon's worst enemy is himself.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

I guess some people think Jon shouldn't protect his property because it might jade the public's perception of him. LOL

Anonymous said...

I, for one, don't think there was something nefarious going on. If I were "contracted" to go scare someone (and screwed it up) I wouldn't give the pictures to a gossip magazine then go to the police.
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No such thing as coincidences. Calling his job, but the wrong place, following him home from his real job into the dirt driveway off the main road, refusing to turn around, setting him up with horrible questions on the interview, blocking him from DWTS..yea, thinking not a coincidence.

TMZ refuses to answer who she is, the infamous pap that went to police to protect her own azz, and that is called conspiracy. There is no pap to pap privilege law lol Harvey said it was not one of his but best friends with tfw attorney's.

Then why did TMZ crew and Kate's attorney keep calling the wrong place of employment?

Is JG in danger regarding this lawsuit?

TFW tour's will be a success or disaster?

Admin you need polls like other sites have. That would be #supertfwfun

Remona Blue said...

Honestly said... 106
''.....
Deep sigh.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mel, I co-sign your post. Jon's worst enemy is himself''
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Honestly, I'm honestly thrilled to tell you that Mel's post was ''Deep sigh''. In other words, Mel was NOT agreeing with a single word of the post. heeheehee Wanna try something else?

Remona Blue said...

Honestly said... 106
''.....
Deep sigh.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mel, I co-sign your post. Jon's worst enemy is himself''
~~~~~~~~~
Honestly, I'm honestly thrilled to tell you that Mel's post was ''Deep sigh''. In other words, Mel was NOT agreeing with a single word of the post. heeheehee Wanna try something else?

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

TMZ AND TFW's attorney are not too smart. They were calling the wrong restaurant. I don't care for TMZ after the time they posted Jon's social security number on a picture of some sort of paper.
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Why would Kate's attorney be calling Jon's place of work?

NJGal51 said...

Anonymous said...The point I was trying to make is; She had the looks, the body, the hair, the smile to make it as something really, really big as a celeb
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I guess she was just missing one little thing, what is it...come on, it's on the tip of my tongue. Ah, I've got it...TALENT. She did not then and she does not now have any talent.

Rain said...

The worst thing that ever happened to Jon Gosselin was meeting Katie Irene Kreider.
How does he now undo let alone survive the day to day nightmare of being attached to this attention starved narcissist?

Tabloids seem to care very little about the moral crimes allegedly admitted to in the journal. But more important in their eyes is to destroy this mans privacy which he has worked so hard for.

Canadian Mom said...

Thank goodness most people (with the usual exception of TFW's most ardent fans) actually seem to 'get it'...Jon wants privacy and will protect that right, in contrast to TFMJG, who wants to be very public...even using Jon's children to bring attention to her!

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Remona, I don't 'get it'. And I'm not an ardent fan of Kate's. We ARE allowed to disagree on things without name calling, are we not?

I don't like guns.

Rain said...

Does anyone know the name of the (cough), "photographer," or the name of the tabloid she works for?

Remona Blue said...

Canadian Mom said... 109
''
Remona, I don't 'get it'. And I'm not an ardent fan of Kate's. We ARE allowed to disagree on things without name calling, are we not?
I don't like guns''
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Of course we're allowed to disagree. I'm from Fort Worth, Texas...raised in the country with guns. I wouldn't expect every one to agree with me, because I'm very aware that my opinion about guns is due to how I was raised in 'the olden days'.

Mel said...

Black Dog Cafe @BlackDogStPaul
It all makes sense now, the incessant calls from @TMZ and #KateGosselin 's attorney. 


So....why would TFW's attorney be calling jg's place of employment (even tho they had the wrkng place)?

He wouldn't be trying to interfere in jg's employment, now would he??? Wouldn't be tryin' to get the guy fired or anything....like they did with DWTS....

chefsummer said...

NJGal51 said... 110
Anonymous said...The point I was trying to make is; She had the looks, the body, the hair, the smile to make it as something really, really big as a celeb
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I guess she was just missing one little thing, what is it...come on, it's on the tip of my tongue. Ah, I've got it...TALENT. She did not then and she does not now have any talent.
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Sounds like Milo to me.

TFW on has talent when it comes to not going away and using her kids.

chefsummer said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 103
It's so obvious Kate doesn't want to see her fans. She tweets how excited she is to meet them and sign their books but she refuses to put her schedule
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But some else posted her schedule for her all she has to do it tweet it.

She to lazy for words.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

I guess she was just missing one little thing, what is it...come on, it's on the tip of my tongue. Ah, I've got it...TALENT. She did not then and she does not now have any talent.

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Or the personality or ability to get along with other people. Her way or the highway. If you're impossible to work with, chances are the networks (or any other employers) are going to cut you loose.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Black Dog Cafe @BlackDogStPaul
It all makes sense now, the incessant calls from @TMZ and #KateGosselin 's attorney.


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So Razamataz has been trying to call Jon's work place (but messing it up lol)? And incessantly? Good grief.

Well, I just thought this was all one big coincidence before, but now I'm not so sure. Was he calling to find out if Jon was there, when he was going to leave?? Hmmm. I'm sure as an attorney he knows that it is inappropriate and forbidden to try to contact the opposing party if he is represented. He is only permitted to talk to Shawn, Martin and any other assigned attorney to the case. He is not permitted to reach out to Jon, period. Just like Shawn and Martin may not speak to Kate.

So what's all this about Jon interfering with Kate's employment? Isn't your wife's attorney calling your workplace pretty darn interfering?? What a mess. What...a....mess.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

She's only got 3 signings and the Baltimore Book Fair. She can't tweet that to her poor fans?

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Oh, but Milo tweeted that her schedule is "intense."

Milo can be amusing at times.

Sarah said...

A private citizen being followed down a dirt road that leads ONLY to his and his children's home, no other people or cars around,no other possible destination. I say yes, protect yourself and your kids.
Who follows someone up a dirt road to their private home? Would that be acceptable anywhere? LA? NY? Alaska?

Remona Blue said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 119
''Black Dog Cafe @BlackDogStPaul
It all makes sense now, the incessant calls from @TMZ and #KateGosselin 's attorney.
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So Razamataz has been trying to call Jon's work place (but messing it up lol)? And incessantly? Good grief.
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Admin...maybe it wasn't Razamataz that was calling what they believed to be Jon's work place, but someone that SAID they were TFMJG's attorney? I don't know...but I'd think that TFW's attorney would know the correct work place. On the other hand....just thinking out loud.

chefsummer said...

Remona Blue said... 94

:-)

Sleepless In Seattle said...

amandgar21 ‏@amandgar21 1h
@Kateplusmy8 are u coming to ontario, Canada????? Saw you in London a few yeas ago:)

When was Kate in London?

Fans are asking where she will be signing. She's not telling them. I wish I knew why she ignores them...nothing on her website. Something just isn't right. Wouldn't you think that she'd be promoting this tour every chance she gets?

Canadian Mom said...

Just so we are clear here Remona. I am not a Kate fan. Nor am I a Jon fan. I am a fan of the kids welfare.

Kate is a twit said...

Sleepless In Seattle said... 126
amandgar21 ‏@amandgar21 1h
@Kateplusmy8 are u coming to ontario, Canada????? Saw you in London a few yeas ago:)

When was Kate in London?
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I think this tweeter was referring to London, Ontario, Canada where Kate appeared at the Women's Lifestyle Show back in March 2009-not London, England.

Kate apparently forgot she was there when she said that her trip to Mexico in 2010 was her first trip out of the country.

Millicent said...

Rhymes with Witch said:

I am not anti guns, but I am pro gun control. Jon has a legal concealed carry permit. The stalker was engaging in criminal trespass. He told her to stop, she didn't. He fired a warning shot. The end.
September 21, 2013 at 6:06 PM
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I am reading from the bottom up, so all I know so far is someone followed Jon home, drove onto private property, refused to leave, and got a warning shot their way. If this is basically accurate, I agree - Jon has a right to defend himself. Who was the trespasser? Can charges be brought?

Sarah said...

I wonder which aspect of the "heating up cans of stuff book" tour TFW is most excited by,
1. Having her hair/nails and tanning done again.
2. Traveling with Steve (guessing he is going).
3. Leaving the kids behind
4. Meeting her fans (she hasn't posted a schedule)

Millicent said...

even though she was breathtakingly beautiful.

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Huh? When was that? At one point in time, TFW was an attractive woman in her 30's. She had a natural prettiness, as long as she didn't open her big fat yap and let all the ugliness inside spew out. That was a relatively brief period of time, then she got into plastic surgery and altering her looks. Now she's generic looking. But never was she breathtakingly beautiful. Oy!

Millicent said...

Now I'm very angry with Pixie, for comparing Jon to George Zimmerman. There is no way I can respond civilly to that ridiculous statement. So I'm going to ignore Pixie and any of her ilk.

I hope the woman who stalked Jon gets faces criminal charges. Serious criminal charges.

Canadian Mom said...

FWIW, I kind of agree with pixie. A gun was not necessary, but I wasnèt there so canèt really judge. I CAN however, state my opinion.

Jon, and Kate for that matter, have both been dealing with the paps for years. YEARS. Why use a gun nowÉ (crap Iève pressed some key and am now talking Spanish lol)

Anonymous said...

If ths wasn't set up how/why was TMZ there getting pictures and able to get their own pictures f Jon?

jbranck1980 said...

#wecan'tgobackwecanonlygoforward

Tess said...

Millicent 130

"I hope the woman who stalked Jon gets faces criminal charges. Serious criminal charges."
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Me, too. Can you even imagine what the conversation with the police was like?

Also, I wanted to say that I always enjoy your posts.

Anonymous said...

If Jon wants privacy he shouldn't be giving interviews and putting himself out in the public otherwise he's fair game--isn't that what you all say about Kate?

NJGal51 said...

@MiloandJack: @LakeRat2011 @msgoody2shoes21 @BullyVille If he really felt threatened he should have put towel over his head...like he did 2his kids! :)
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This is in response to BV's question about Jon having the right to defend his and his family's privacy. What does that even mean?

Sherry Baby said...

"Yes Milo females have never hurt anyone. In the history of the world there are absolutely no incidents of females ever hurting anyone and certainly not celebrities.

Goodness, talk about ignorance."

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Milo claims that she runs businesses. She recently tweeted that she came from a meeting with companies. You do need a little bit of smarts to run a successful business. Is she only ignorant on Twitter? How can someone who has no critical thinking ability run a business?

Is Milo catfishing? If so, she's been very lucky so far. While I am not in favor of outing, and I couldn't care less about her name, age, address or occupation, it would be interesting to know exactly what she is, and why nobody (at least the non-fans) has been able to figure out her game or identity.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


If Jon wants privacy he shouldn't be giving interviews and putting himself out in the public otherwise he's fair game--isn't that what you all say about Kate?

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He is fair game out and about. The pap is welcome to take photos in public places as long as she is respectful, and people are welcome to comment on what he says and does publicly. He is not however fair game to be followed, stalked, and chased down to his property while he asks her repeatedly to stop. Go back and read the thread where Polly was at the corn maze. Even though that was a public place many of us me one of the most vocal said that was completely unacceptable. And that was in PUBLIC.

I never saw anyone here say that it is fair game to follow, stalk, or go on Kate's private property. Never. You give up a lot when you become a celeb, but you don't, should not have to give up your right to go on your private property and the right to be left alone there.

Kate is a twit said...

E!Online has a story about the incident. They contacted the police department for comment.

"The Mohnton Police Department confirms to E! News the photographer made a report that Gosselin fired a shot in the air, but she declined to request that police take action.

Police tell E! the photographer was on private property during the confrontation and in Pennsylvania it is legal for a citizen to fire a weapon on private property, especially in rural areas such as Beckersville.

Police will not be investigating the incident.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Jon, and Kate for that matter, have both been dealing with the paps for years. YEARS. Why use a gun nowÉ (crap Iève pressed some key and am now talking Spanish lol)

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Perhaps he's never had a pap be this brazen and inappropriate before. Perhaps this is the first time it got so bad he had to resort to his firearm. If anything it speaks to how conservative he is about resorting to a weapon if he's never chosen to draw his weapon before. In the past we saw many videos/photos of the paps and they were all lined up at the fence, standing around pleasantly behaving respectfully. I have heard that they occasionally would follow the van, but it was a "safe" follow; I've never heard that it was an actual chase onto private property like Princess Diana chase. When the pap filmed the children crying at the gate, he stood a respectful several yards back, and he did not follow the van once it went past the gate. He was not asked to stop filming.

Not being there, we have no idea how bad it was. From what he said, he was yelling at her repeatedly to stop. From the pictures, he appears terrified. She did something to strike such a look of terror on his face. Perhaps it was chasing him down a private unpaved country road in the middle of the woods with the cops at least 20 minutes out that did it, just a guess.

Plus, he's in the middle of a messy lawsuit and just made a lot of people very upset with his kick-butt 12b6. He is supposed to be the doormat. But this week he took Kate on. He has ever reason to believe he is at risk far more than he's ever been before.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Police tell E! the photographer was on private property during the confrontation and in Pennsylvania it is legal for a citizen to fire a weapon on private property, especially in rural areas such as Beckersville.

Police will not be investigating the incident.

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Exactly. Of course they're not. Nothing to investigate. Other than the pap herself I suppose.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

I never saw anyone here say that it is fair game to follow, stalk, or go on Kate's private property.

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Exactly. Had the situation been reversed, and it was Kate who was stalked and someone had come onto her property, I think that she would have every right to defend herself, her kids and her property the same way that Jon did. It's not fair game to follow, stalk or harass anyone on the celebrity's own turf. Period.

As far as I know, Jon got along with paps and they liked him. He always seemed polite and affable with them and with fans. What happened last night was something totally different and unacceptable...I don't care if it was Jon or Kate -- neither is fair game at the homes, no matter how much they put themselves "out there."

Anonymous said...

...in Pennsylvania it is legal for a citizen to fire a weapon on private property, especially in rural areas such as Beckersville.


Just because it's legal, doesn't make it right.

Rhymes with Witch said...

137
I prefer to refer to her as a stalker, as my understanding is that legitimate paps are more law abiding. jmho.

Gail said...

Going by this theory, there is nothing to investigate about Kate and her child abuse either. It's legal in PA.

Honestly, some of the opinions here are as biased as Kate's fans are.

You cherrypick and choose just like they do.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

From the pictures, he appears terrified. She did something to strike such a look of terror on his face. Perhaps it was chasing him down a private unpaved country road in the middle of the woods with the cops at least 20 minutes out that did it, just a guess.

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And of course he may have had death threats that the public doesn't know about. He certainly is aware of the crazies on Twitter and the internet. He had no idea who this person was...a pap in disguise? It very well could have been one of the Jon-haters who were out to get him. Why take the risk and just assume it was an annoying pap?

Sleepless In Seattle said...

I think this tweeter was referring to London, Ontario, Canada where Kate appeared at the Women's Lifestyle Show back in March 2009-not London, England.

Kate apparently forgot she was there when she said that her trip to Mexico in 2010 was her first trip out of the country.

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Okay. That makes sense. Thanks. I guess when you have such an "intense" schedule you tend to forget where you are and where you have been!

grandee4 said...

Hey ya'll still reading here on a regular basis. I was using my iPad and cannot post from it yet.
Also, when I post, I'm usually reading it 3 or4 hours late and ya'll are already on another subject, so I don't get responses.

Just have to say how much I admire Jon for the hard work he has done to stay out of the lime light.

Kate on the other hand is even more evil and extremely dangerous because of her mental illness. She will never be treated because she is too full of herself.

What gets me is the fact that no one in her family has stepped in to do something and they never ever do interviews. I know they signed papers to keep their mouth shut but this is a severe mental illness, she is a danger to herself and others. Never know when this woman is going to snap and that's scary.

I would think the confidential documents they signed to keep them quiet would not apply to a medical emergency like an intervention.

It really disturbs me that they do nothing. I'm sure they hear and read all about her and the kids. The longer they stay silent, she will continue in her illness.

Hope everyone has a wonderful Sunday, and GO SAINTS!

prairiemary said...

Yes, Millicent, that's the word I was thinking of, TFW now has looks that are generic! Notice that so many of the pretty blondes these days are starting to look all the same? If you have a free year, and a minimum of around $50,000., then you also can be nipped and tucked and sucked to look just like the rest of the generic blondes.
And I read somewhere on-line a while back, that someone was taking screen shots of all of goody's terrible tweets, and was going to send them to the cops at one time. I wonder if that person will be sending them to J & R's lawyers, so they can see what Jon has been threatened with. She has sure said a ton of terrible and scary things about him.

Anonymous said...

From across the web on sites and comments:

deny deny deny known outlets said nope don't know her, not one of ours.

Now, who is this bee-ach, where did she come from, who sent her to stir up a drama story so bad, it went national and abroad immediately?

Driving like a nut behind JG, following JG home from his job, HIS JOB! Driving off the county paved road, into the woods on a dirt road, with no one around, and refuses to leave, then puts him and his family in danger, and no charges are filed against her?

Huh?

Hope his attorney can find out why she did this. She had to show ID when she went to Police.

Lord knows he has one of the best attorneys, and praise G-d for that blessing. Good, caring attorneys are hard to find.

I have it bad in my real life, but JG has it 10 times worse than me and my prayers are with him.



JG when I get rich someday, somehow, will share with you buddy.

jus4u

Anonymous said...

Ms. Lilian was 101 years old when she published her last amazing cookbook that sold more copies the first day, than TFW has sold since the release of the order date.

She didn't need a media tour or swag to sell her award winning cook books. The books sold themselves, because she and the books were all authentic.

Bobbi said...

Who are the Saints and where do they need to go?? LOL

JoyinVirginia said...

I am just catching up after a busy day. Lots of news! Jon did exactly what he had to i'm the circumstances.
My personal experience colors my reaction to Jon confronting the trespasser. We used to live in Middle of Nowhere Woods, Virginia. I was alone with my dogs and children at times. If a strange vehicle came up our long dirt driveway that was clearly not a public road, I would meet them with my shotgun visible. Not aimed at anyone but visible. That and the pit bulls kept strangers away. If we would have needed help, the sheriffs dept was thirty minutes away. Ambulance further.
I wish it kept the neighbors cows away. They were forever getting out and eating my azaleas. Now I live in Rural But Not Middle of Nowhere Virginia and the deer eat my azaleas. I can't do target practice in the backyard like I could at other place, either.

Anonymous said...

I really like the attorneys for the guys. G-d is great and blessed them well for the lawsuit representation. The attorney's could have said no to the case, but they didn't. Lawyers say no a lot more than the average person realizes.

Someone way up there ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ stated to stay out of it and let the attorneys research teams do the work, and I have to disagree with that statement.

If you think you might know something in to regards of a suggestion or detail, mention it, if you want to help the team.

And someone else was saying "this is the last time I will mention the motion on this or that, I promise".

I say to her, hey, I like your reading your theories, which means, guess who else is probably reading them too? The team.

Keep posting no matter who doesn't like it. Sometimes, the other side will be over here paying the devils advocate.

The smallest detail can give way to the largest victory. jus4u

NJGal51 said...

@xxxxxxxx: @Kateplusmy8 really hope u sell lots of your cookbooks😍
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Had to laugh at this one. The profile picture shows whe son reading the Daphne Oz cookbook!

Suzee said...

Harvey said it was not one of his but best friends with tfw attorney's.

Hummm, who do we know that is good friends with TFW's attorney? I'll give you a hint. Starts with a B.

Give up? BV. Coincidence?

Suzee said...

Jon, and Kate for that matter, have both been dealing with the paps for years. YEARS. Why use a gun nowÉ (crap Iève pressed some key and am now talking

For starters, maybe this is the first time one has followed him to his secluded home on a private dirt road and refused to leave?

Suzee said...

I wasn't one who had trouble finding the Amazon forum discussions, but I just wanted to confirm that the link SusanNH posted does take you to the correct page.
There are 104 posts there currently.

Customer Discussions > Kate Gosselin's Love Is in the Mix

http://www.amazon.com/Why/forum/Fx3DLLNYLDJ0VYG/Tx218D86ZOBCXGL/1/ref=cm_cd_fp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&asin=0757317642

Mary said...

There is a really nice article in our local Reading Eagle newspaper today about Jon.

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=513590




They have not done anything like this for Kate. At the most they might put in a couple sentences like when she was on Dancing With The Stars but they have not interviewed her personally. She has no one to blame but herself for that. This is what happens Kate when you when you are rude and nasty to those around you.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Anonymous said... 108
There is no pap to pap privilege law lol Harvey said it was not one of his but best friends with tfw attorney's.
________________

Where did you see this? Link?

Dmasy said...

Mary 160, thank you very much for that link to the Reading Eagle.

I appreciated the positive information.

Too bad that the "privacy" Jon mentioned more than once has now been invaded.

Suzee said...

Mary, Thank you for the link to the great Reading Eagle newspaper article about Jon! I especially liked his quote: "I have a feeling, a really good feeling," he said. "This is like the first time in five years that I've had a good feeling, that this is going to work. And things are going to change. And it's going to be fun."

It sounds like Jon is in a good place and he's feeling positive and hopeful - he sure deserves it. I think he's definitely had enough of TFW and with the suit and finally some good representation, he decided nothing and nobody is going to get in the way of him being with his kids and his happiness. I'm so happy that he's happy!

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=513590

Suzee said...

OH, be sure to click on the photo of Jon in the Reading Eagle article - it'll bring up 9 more! ;-)

Millicent said...

Thank you Tess :)

I'm glad the police have the name and other pertinent info regarding the female trespasser. She clearly was way out of line, and to me that indicates someone who has no respect for the law. I hope the police at least ran a quick background check to see if she has any prior run-ins with the police. Very creepy behavior and I hope Jon at least files a report against her so if she harrasses anyone else, they give her more than a slap on the wrist.

Dmasy said...

We didn't know that Jon's Grandmother had passed away. (Because his life is, for the most part, private!)

Jon, if you do check in here, please know that I am sorry that you lost someone close to you. Cherish your memories.

SeeSaw said...

In the article photos, Jon is wearing the same clothes he had on during the confrontation with the trespasser.

Looks like it was the same day/night and would explain why the article doesn't mention the gun incident.

SeeSaw said...

It just occurred to me that his clothes are probably a uniform. Scratch what I said about timing. It's too early here.

And Jon is working two jobs.

Katykat said...

Interesting, and totally believable, that he mentions that HE is the one w/ OCD. HE was always cleaning, fixing, etc...while TFW w/ the "Supposed OCD" sat on her flat ass and did nothing. I think she definitely has a case of LLCD (Lying and Lazy Compulsive Disorder).

Mel said...

From the article:
Obviously there's a lot of things going on in the realm of things. But, I'm fine with everything. Because I know what I know. I know what the truth is." 
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He's said that before, a few years ago. Something then about he's not worried about the kids, they know the truth.

He seems to be coming from a place of internal peace right now, which can only come from the truth.

Unlike TFW who is still viciously clawing her way somewhere.

Mel said...

Interesting, Jon works TWO jobs, whereas TFW is piecing and patching.

SeeSaw said...

It does bother me that every article notes that he's not paying child support but neglects to mention he is supporting them financially during his custody time.

Jon is piecing and patching, too. Working two jobs probably helps him patch together a schedule that gives him time with the kids. Just a guess/opinion.

Mel said...

I don't understand why BV outs people who are exercising their first amendment rights to free speech but not this stalker.

The internet posters are expressing their opinion of Kate, sometimes pretty nastily and crudely, but it's still free speech. They're not saying it to her face. It's a place she can choose not to be and therefore not see it. And, she indeed says herself that SHE DOESN'T SEE IT.

This stalker on the other hand, physically threatened Jon's safety. She was on his private property, refusing to leave, taking photos of him.

If that's not bullying, I don't know what is.

Oh. Only TFW has paid you? You're not interested if you're not paid?
I see.

Kate is a twit said...

Mary-thanks for posting the link to the Reading Eagle article.

So Jon works 2 jobs--that's 2 more than TFW has. I was wondering why it was first reported that he worked at Emily's and then it was reported that he worked at the Black Dog. This article clarified that by saying he works at both places.

I was very sorry to hear that his grandmother passed away. May she RIP.

Over In TFW's County said...

From the Reading Eagle:

"Still, Church added: "It wasn't like I wanted Jon to work here because it was Jon. He's an awesome guy. He really is."

How often does anyone, other than the Head Ewe and the Mini Sheep, say this about Kate?

Over In TFW's County said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 13h
Cooked&filled my freezer w lots of meals today... Only days2go til I meet&sign my new cookbook for YOU! Hope to meet you there! #ImSOExcited

PinkTink0526 ‏@PinkTink0526 2h
@Kateplusmy8 how do you precook and reheat later? I can't get a grip on that aspect of it. #helpeatbetter

Is this the same one who couldn't figure out how to freeze cookies and defrost them?

lukebandit said...

Jon is working 2 JOBS! kate works none. She pieces and patches her website. If she really wanted to make money, she would have ads, ads, ads on there. It would be a really nice one. But there is a monkey wrench in that deal, she is too lazy to do it. She could work from home doing pharmaceutical nursing calls, something.

She is home all day all week and the weekends. You know she is salivating at the thought of getting back on the road with Steve.

Auntie: food service position. AHHAHAHHAHAHA!
how funny! I thought of her working at the local Morrison's cafeteria and her throwing out the food like she does the kids one at a time and saying, You get what you get and you don't get upset!

So glad that well written article came out when it did. Maybe it will make Jon feel just a little better. You know the kids heard all about this. Just another thing kate allowed to happen IMHO so when the kids go to school tomorrow what they face at school. She is so cruel.

Jon definitely needs to get a holster gun belt. Much easier to handle. Please Jon press charges on the pap.

Anonymous said...

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=513590

Loved the article. Thanx for posting.

wishing jon and his 8 all the best!

NJGal51 said...

@XXXXXXXX: @Kateplusmy8 how do you precook and reheat later? I can't get a grip on that aspect of it. #helpeatbetter
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She's got to be kidding.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Well, that was a refreshing morning read. Hmmm, let's see, JG is working as a maitre'd, not waiting tables, at two restaurants near home. He tripped into the jobs not out of desparation but rather by chance having arranged a post funeral family meal there. His bosses like him and think he's good for their business. Oh, he takes his kids out around town, EVERYWHERE, and apparently chaos does not ensue. And what does he say about their television life? To paraphrase, it was just a job, a revenue stream.


Sounds like someone has grown up a lot, those are the words of a mature man. Not a word about TFW, or for that matter, anything about his dating life. Perhaps Liz is not longer in the picture as he has a lot of free time for a second job. Hope you read this article, sheeple, though it won't go down easy.

Meanwhile TFW is busily cooking away, throwing crapbook food in the freezer for her kids while she packs for her world tour - what was it again, 3 or 4 book signings and some media buzz she probably should avoid under the circumstances? I think I would choose Jon's life these days, it's what we might call authentic.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I love how RE called her his former wife too. It takes away so much power from her with that simple name change. I'm glad he's in a much better place. Also this was before the pap incident and I noticed how he stressed how safe and secluded his home is. To have someone invade that sanctuary was obviously very distressing.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 14h
Cooked&filled my freezer w lots of meals today...
Only days2go til I meet&sign my new cookbook for YOU! Hope to meet you there! #ImSOExcited

PinkTink0526 ‏@PinkTink0526 3h
@Kateplusmy8 how do you precook and reheat later? I can't get a grip on that aspect of it. #helpeatbetter
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I can't get a grip on what she can't get a grip on.

Amy2 said...

Mary, thank you for the Reading Eagle article.

KatyKat, the OCD statement leaped out at me also. Jon is OCD, not Kate.

The article was wonderful because it showed (to me) that Jon is really a down to earth person. Doesn't pretend to be someone he's not and likes people. He was gone through a very long and vicious storm thanks to TWF. Now it seems he is well connected with his children, his family and his community. Good for him. He deserves happiness.

Sideline Sally said...

E!Online has a story about the incident. They contacted the police department for comment. 

"The Mohnton Police Department confirms to E! News the photographer made a report that Gosselin fired a shot in the air, but she declined to request that police take action.
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That's weird. Mohnton is not the proper jurisdiction for the complaint anyway. Jon doesn't live there.

Also, I disagree with the poster who said it is a VERY rural area and  would take police a long time to respond. It's not that rural and "off the map" like people are thinking. Police response time would likely be within 10 minutes.

That said, I don't think it matters and Jon's response was appropriate IMO.

chefsummer said...

PinkTink0526 ‏@PinkTink0526 2h
@Kateplusmy8 how do you precook and reheat later? I can't get a grip on that aspect of it. #helpeatbetter
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This is kind of self explanatory.

What's so hard to get about pre-cooking then reheating??

PatK said...

PinkTink0526 ‏@PinkTink0526 3h
@Kateplusmy8 how do you precook and reheat later? I can't get a grip on that aspect of it. #helpeatbetter

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I swear I thought that was a joke when I first read it. Then I remembered how many dumb questions like that Kate actually gets.

chefsummer said...

katesmate ‏@katesmate1 2h
Where can I buy book ? @Kateplusmy8
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How about a bookstore or her website or amazon.

Ex Nurse said...

Canadian Mom, ITA with you about guns. I was raised in big cities, and so I was not raised with hunting. From the people that I know that were raised with guns, mostly from rural areas of the country, it is a rite of passage and very much a part of everyday life. 

If guns only killed other people who choose to own guns, then I would say it isn't my business. The mother of the shooter in the CT school massacre had an arsenal of weaponry available for her deranged son. While her death is a tragedy, I feel that her own decisions led to her own death at the hands of her son. Certainly  not true of the heroic teachers, staff and innocent children that died because of that person's decision. My daughter is a kindergarten teacher, so that really hit close to home. 

And still, arguments are made in defense of gun ownership, free of background checks or meaningful limitations on assault weapons. As an American, it is an embarrassment. 

I read the Reading Eagle article, and it was good to hear that Jon is finally able to reach a peaceful place, and will hopefully live out his life free of threats and harassment. Hopefully, this incident will remind him of the importance of staying alert to his surroundings.  He seems to have a trusting nature, and, sometimes that gets him in hot water. Often, our character assets can also be our character defects.

Call Me Crazy said...

Did I really just read someone characterize TFW as "breathtakingly beautiful" ???

She was pretty at one time, but now she looks like a million other women who have nipped, tucked, pulled, peeled, suctioned, sculpted, botoxed, bleached, fried, firmed, sprayed, spackled, hairsprayed, hoisted, lifted, lasered, and veneered their natural looks into oblivion.

I would reserve "breathtakingly beautiful" for the likes of Elizabeth Taylor and Grace Kelly.

Oh well. Different strokes I guess. Either that, or someone needs new glasses.

pym said...

If these rumours are true 1. TFW's lawyer has been trying to contact Jon (or did they mean to just contact his employer?)and 2. the offending pap was a friend (agent) of TFW's lawyer, then this incident is much, much bigger that it first appears to be. I do hope Jon's people are investigating.

Call Me Crazy said...

Katykat said... 169
Interesting, and totally believable, that he mentions that HE is the one w/ OCD. HE was always cleaning, fixing, etc...while TFW w/ the "Supposed OCD" sat on her flat ass and did nothing.
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Yes, Katykat, and Robert specifically mentions in his book that it is Jon, not Kate, who is the neat freak.

grandee4 said...

Bobbi 153
The New Orleans Saints football team.
And hopefully they are going to the Superbowl this season.

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