Wednesday, September 11, 2013

'I've never had a job in my life that I was better than. I was always just lucky to have a job. And every job I had was a stepping stone to my next job, and I never quit my job until I had my next job. And so opportunities look a lot like work.'

Ashton Kutcher's profoundly honest, tough-love speech in an unlikely venue was something every helicoptered kid needed to hear. And maybe some adults, too.




Don't waste your money on Jobs, but listen to this speech.

"I believe that opportunity looks a lot like hard work. When I was thirteen I had my first job with my dad carrying shingles up to the roof. And then I got a job washing dishes at a restaurant. And then I got a job in a grocery store deli. And then I got a job at a factory sweeping Cherrio dust off the ground. And I've never had a job in my life that I was better than.  I was always just lucky to have a job.  And every job I had was a stepping stone to my next job, and I never quit my job until I had my next job.  And so opportunities look a lot like work."



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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I was meaning to do this post for awhile and wow what perfect timing.

Millicent said...

I think I may have missed a story about Jon working as a waiter? If true, I don't find anything demeaning in that. It's hard work, and if he can do it, more power to him. Depending on how high scale the restaurant is, waiters can earn quite a nice amount in tips.

I waitressed my way through college. It's not an easy job and I have respect for those who serve me my food whenever I eat out.

Good speech by Ashton.

AuntieAnn said...

"The sexiest thing in the world is being smart and being thoughtful and being generous."


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Kinda leaves Kate out of the running, doesn't it.

AuntieAnn said...

"Jon and Kate Plus 8" was nominated for a Teen Choice Award in 2009, Reality TV. It lost to"The Hills"

A Mom said...

Remember just before Kate's show was cancelled on TLC; Kate said " she never quits a job unless she has another job". Guess that applies to quitting because she's been fired on all her jobs.

Remona Blue said...

Thank you so much for making this a new topic. I think that Ashton's quote that ''I never had a job in my life that I was better than'' is something worth remembering.

Even though Jon's job may be considered ''rock bottom'' in tabloid headlines, I believe that the public will think otherwise, as more and more people realize that he is doing whatever honest work he finds and contrast that with TFMJG, more and more people will give her the side-eye, and respect Jon. What a good example Jon's work ethic is for his children! I really admire Jon for working and living his life privately. He IS a good man.

Mel said...

Back to the homework thing for a moment. This is where TFW causes me to lose the most respect for her. The fact that she doesn't acknowledge nor recognize the privileged life that she and her kids live.

She refuses to acknowledge or recognize all the advantages they have, and how those advantages lead to even more advantages over time.

Because those kids come from a wealthy family, they have a mother who doesn't work, who is available at all times, and if she isn't available, there is always the nanny. If one car breaks down, no big deal, just take one of the others. No one is going to lose a job over it.

If the washer breaks, just use the other one. No one has to go to school in dirty clothes because the washer broke, and they can't afford to fix the car.

There's enough money for everyone, including the kids, to have cell phones, and the money to pay for the data plans.

There's enough money that the kids can have braces, and not go thru life with crooked teeth. There's enough money for whatever healthcare they need. It's not a case of not being able to go to the dr because there is no money. No one's going to lose a job because they're too sick to go to work. Or they missed too many days due to sick children.

There's enough money for private school, which means a chance at a better college which means a chance at a better job. There's enough money that the kids won't be working 40 hours/week at McDonalds while going to hs full time and tiredlynstruggle to get the homework done to get good grades, to get the better college and the better job.

There's enough money that the kids can afford to take unpaid internships in college, thus putting them in a better position to get a better job.

There's enough money that TFW doesn't have to choose between groceries for the kids and a prescription for herself. She doesn't have to choose between gas for the car and groceries. The kids don't have to wear shoes a size too small because there's no money for new ones.

She doesn't have to say no to lacrosse because there's no money for the fees and uniforms, and no way to get to the weekend tournaments.

She doesn't have to deny those kids anything for lack of money. Nor herself. She can go wherever she wants on vacation, multiple times a year, and not deny herself or the kids a thing.

TFW doesn't have to do anything she doesn't want to. The hired help does what she doesn't want to do. She can do whatever she wants, whenever she wants. She has complete freedom, and a million choices about everything.

She has a dream to publish a cookbook? Sure. She has the money to fund that. She wants to sue her ex for God knows what? Sure. There's money for that. No one in her family has to go without anything just because she wants to sue somebody.

I don't begrudge TFW her life of privilege (except that she got it by exploiting the kids), but I do object to her not acknowledging how much it has benefitted her and her children, and instead always acting like they're as poor as church mice.

She refuses to be grateful for how much she and her children have when so many others have so much less.

Ok. End of rant. Flame away.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

The NE thinks a restaurant that serves duck and filet mignon is rock bottom. Sad.

There's a cheesy Little House episode where the family loses their crops (for like the 10th time) and everyone has to chip in working hard to make ends meet. Mary even quits school to work. Pa ends up mucking out horse stables most of the time and is a smelly mess and dirty.

Pa finds Laura crying because Nellie made fun of him and says something like, "Hard working folks only smell bad to those who have nothing better to do than stick their noses in the air." He goes on to say that sweat was put there by God so a man can work hard, cleanse himself and feel proud and that any job a man works hard at to provide is a decent job.

I know, cheesy, but it really is a good set of values to live by. Somewhere along the way we decided what job is something to be embarrassed about and what job isn't and I think that's so sad. There is no job to be embarrassed about as long as it's moral and ethical. This has extended to schools, to your house to how much money you have to what vacations you take to what clothes you wear. This keeping up with the Joneses that some people buy into is just so unhealthy and frankly pointless. Where does it end? When we're taking jobs at someone just trying to be normal and provide and decide well I don't like that perfectly decent job because, God forbid a man work for tips, then I don't want anything to do with that mentality.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Mel that was good. What is boils down to is there are haves and have nots in society and while there is some upward mobility, when you are a have, it becomes a heck of a lot easier to just get what some people have to struggle so hard for.

That is a reality and we can debate all day whether that's right, but the bottom line is at least all the "haves" I know ADMIT IT. Just admit it. They have been handed a golden ticket to cash in and live a life of tremendous privilege. Own it. Stop trying to pretend your life bears any remote resemblance to the have nots, it's just insulting.

a coincidence is not the same as an accident said...

Hi, I just want to thank everyone who gave me words of encouragement last weekend. I kept a distance between my mother and me, and I was fine. She was not dramatic, thank goodness. I didn't even need the Stepford Wives smile; I had a real smile, knowing that my father was out of his misery. It was so touching to hear so many people say nice things about my dad. :-)

I went to the cemetery today, and kept the "I love you Dad" banner that was with my flowers.
I also stopped by a Sept. 11 memorial garden, to remember the victims and heroes of the "bombs or whatever."

I hope that Jon realizes that someday when the children are grown, they will see their parents as people with thoughts and feelings; not just ;mom" and "dad". They'll know who was encouraging and went to their school events. I hope that the children treat Jon as well as I treated my dad.

Oh, I like how someone used my name on the previous post :-)

You are a fabulous group!

If anyone is wondering what my name refers to, it's this:
http://twitter.yfrog.com/z/h77kseyj

a coincidence is not the same as an accident said...

I am in 100% agreeance, Mel and Admin.
This is why I'm here nearly every day; it's reassuring to know that there are others who sees things as I do.

NJGal51 said...

Standing "O" Mel. Well said.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


If anyone is wondering what my name refers to, it's this:
http://twitter.yfrog.com/z/h77kseyj

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I knew I heard your name somewhere but couldn't place it. Thanks for the reminder.

What Ashton said. The sexiest thing is being smart.

Shelby said...

Even though Jon's job may be considered ''rock bottom'' in tabloid headlines, I believe that the public will think otherwise, as more and more people realize that he is doing whatever honest work he finds
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I don't even think Jon is on the public's radar. Except for that People article on Kate, he's kind of been forgotten. And that's a GOOD thing.

Honestly, I don't think many people even care about Jon or what he is doing. He's not 'hot' anymore.

Neither is Kate, except for when she manages to get a mainstream press article. Then people remember and think about her. In negative droves!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Honestly, I don't think many people even care about Jon or what he is doing. He's not 'hot' anymore.

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Well, he was popular enough for NE to do a story on him. But I think what you're saying is sort of the point. No one cares to start judging his perfectly decent job. No one wants to. Because it's irrelevant. But also because it's NOT a bad job. There were hundreds upon hundreds of comments about the People article, which Jon participated in. Folks will gladly talk about them if something strikes them as controversial or offensive or feel a need to say "wait a minute". This clearly was not that kind of story. The masses have spoken and they sent a message, leave this be.

fidosmommy said...

Probably a lot of the NE readers either work at or frequent "lowly" restaurants. It's as American as peach cobbler. So Jon won't be getting much flak from them.

Shelby said...

Honestly, I don't think many people even care about Jon or what he is doing. He's not 'hot' anymore.


Admin? That was my comment but it's not posted. I pretty much said what you did. That it was a GOOD thing people don't care anymore about Jon.

Where's my comment?

Shelby said...

Admin, where's my comment? You responded to it but didn't post it. Thanks in advance.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I was curious what NE's demographics were. According to them most readers are women with the average age in their 40s and a household income of 52,000. Not poor but still pretty middle class. I hope no one got their feelings hurt by that insensitive rock bottom comment.

lukebandit said...

So proud of Jon! There is nothing wrong for him to take a side job to supplement his income to help him pay his bills and support his kids. Jon, you rock!

Shame on the NE for blasting him for it. Another blow to the kids. kate claimed that she would even work at McD's to support her kids, IF she had too. She is a RN for pete's sake. She just threw that out there so people would give send and give her more money.

All my sons have worked at a local seafood restaurant that is very nice. The tips on the weekend are killer. My middle son who was in college, 50 miles away came home one weekend to work.

The reason why is, his fuel pump went out on his jeep and he had to get it fixed. He borrowed a car, drove home and worked Sat. night and Sunday afternoon and this was so brilliant. He made enough money to pay for his gas to drive back and forth, pay for the parts and labor, his misc. expenses while here and went back Sunday night with 20 dollars in his pocket.

I was just so proud that he took the responsibility of taking care of a problem and did it on his own.

Son, you rock!

topoftheriver.com

Suzee said...

SOOO well said Mel @ #7. I agree with every point. Bravo!

jolie Jacquelyn said...

Did I miss the sales number for Kate's People magazine cover?

JoyinVirginia said...

Great comments, great topic for a post admin! Luke bandit, hope you are doing well, great story about your son. Coincidence, thanks for the update, so glad you got comfort and support from your fathers funeral.
on the same theme as the speech, it its important to not overextend ones self financially. How many people got into trouble with owing more on their mortgages than their house was worth over the past few years? Real estate agents and mortgage loan officers were telling people they qualified for huge mortgages and then people got into trouble when the market tanked. Getting into a house you can realistically afford instead of a mcmansion is so much more sensible, but hard to do when agents are telling you that a humongous house can be yours just with a fabulous loan, that actually doesn't give you any equity. The days of those loans are over I think.
Dh and I were tempted to get something bigger and better years ago, but instead stayed in our good enough house that we could easily afford, and now the mortgage is paid. years of planning and budgeting and yes working at a second job seasonally helped to reach that goal. Lots of folks do a second job at times to reach a specific goal. Nothing to mean a person is desperate, sometimes it means the person is very responsible and a good planner.

Terri said...

If Jon has hit rock bottom for working hard at any job he can to make a living, then Kate must be living UNDER the rock for her lack of work.

chefsummer said...

AuntieAnn said... 16
@Sienna_Star 6m
@Kateplusmy8 I hope ur doing wellI know things r rough 4 u rt now. Sending u good thoughts.


have enuf good thoughts. Could U send cash instead? Thanx X9
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And gift cards.

chefsummer said...

Happy 2ye anniversay everyone and KK. -)

Marie said...

Kinda leaves Kate out of the running, doesn't it.
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Marie

Marie said...

Mel . . . very well said.

Marie

Suzee said...

How many people got into trouble with owing more on their mortgages than their house was worth over the past few years?

IDK if her property value has gone up recently, but a couple of years ago TFW was in that very position!

Summer Days And Nights said...

bernadette ‏@bsimelis 2h
@Kateplusmy8 I got my cookbook yesterday!! So excited to try it out!!! #loveisinthemix

Oh, gosh. Really? Milo and the fans will be so jellus! To think that someone got a cookbook before it's released is going to make them scramble like crazy trying to figure out how and where to get their books!

NJGal51 said...

@bsimelis: @Kateplusmy8 I got my cookbook yesterday!! So excited to try it out!!! #loveisinthemix

@ejmunro: @Kateplusmy8 yay got an email saying my copy of 'Love is in the mix' is on the way to me! So excited!!!

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How are they getting their book when Amazon on still says the release date is 24 September? That's still over a week away. Sillimom? Have the twitterbots appeared a week too soon because of the original publication date? Maybe someone forgot to tell them that the date was pushed pack.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Another blow to the kids. kate claimed that she would even work at McD's to support her kids,

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And therein lies the difference between TFW and Jon. TFW is all talk about what she WOULD do for her kids, you know, if she had to. Meanwhile Jon just shuts up and DOES IT.

Summer Days And Nights said...

Have the twitterbots appeared a week too soon because of the original publication date? Maybe someone forgot to tell them that the date was pushed pack.

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But how could that be? Milo and the sheep claim that Kate would NEVER use bots!

Summer Days And Nights said...

@ejmunro: @Kateplusmy8 yay got an email saying my copy of 'Love is in the mix' is on the way to me! So excited!!!

This one is in New Zealand! Interesting!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

That would be funny if someone released the gates on the twitter bots on the wrong day.

Pull back the gate pull back the gate! Round 'em up! Abort abort!

Dot said...

TFW's real fans take a picture of their TFW related stuff and tweet it, like books and magazines. These are obviously bots who were programmed sloppily. You get what you pay for.

Summer Days And Nights said...

Uh, oh. If you can't trust Whole Foods, who can you trust? ;-)

From HuffPost:

"The market that touts itself as "America's healthiest grocery store" has been breaching California pesticide codes, the state says.

California is suing Whole Foods Market, claiming that the company is selling products containing pesticides not registered with the state. The four products in question are all pet products and repellants: Enviroman Bugs R Done insect spray, Natural Pine Pellets cat litter, Purely Botanical cat flea spray and Purely Botanical dog flea spray.

Charlotte Fadipe, Assistant Director of Communications for the California Department of Pesticide Regulation, told The Huffington Post that to sell a pesticide product in stores, a company must register it with the state so that it can be tested and approved for safe use.

"What we're saying to Whole Foods is, 'You are selling unregistered pesticides that we all use on our family pets, that therefore we're bringing into our homes, and by law, you have to register it as a pesticide and have not been doing so,'" Fadipe said. "We cannot say that this product is safe."

Whole Foods told HuffPost that it could not comment on pending legal issues.

Fadipe, however, said that this has been an ongoing issue with the grocery store and that they will be investigating Whole Foods for a range of products they believe are unregistered and being sold in their California locations.

"This is not a shock to Whole Foods," she said. "We just think they should follow the law like everybody else. It's a matter of creating a level playing field."

Summer Days And Nights said...

This whole school essay controversy, which is now making its way to online gossip sites...it's all open to debate, is it fair, unfair, what is it teaching her kids, etc. If a kid is a straight A student with no history of forgetting homework or turning it in late, should he/she be penalized as opposed to a child who habitually misses homework assignments? There may be extenuating circumstances here that weren't disclosed...policies vary, who knows exactly what went on and why it was accepted. We just don't know.

That said, that doesn't bother me nearly as much as why in the would would she tweet this? If she's going to do text homework, you just keep quiet about it. Good grief. Once again, this was all about me me me. What a great mom I am! I really don't believe she can help it. She can't think ahead and say, um....maybe I shouldn't tweet this because it's going to open up a can of worms that best be left unopened. WHY can't she do this? It's interesting from a psychological perspective. She just keeps doing it, and must know that she's sticking her foot in her mouth every time she does it, but she just won't stop.

Then negative publicity results, and she cries bullying, and how these haters need to be taken down, and puts out the old victim thing. If she stopped to think what she's tweeting this wouldn't happen.

localyocul said...

Mel,

Excellent post. I said the same thing on the last thread, but not so eloquently.

My daughter is out sick today with bronchitis. She asked me to email her teacher to see if I could pick up a math review packet today. Normally I would make her send the email but she is really sick. Anyway, I just got the reply with the packet attached in order to save me a trip. Now THAT's an appropriate use of technology. And yes I am blessed that I have sick time I could take off to be with my HS daughter when she is sick even though she's capable of staying home alone. It's nice to have a day off since I work seven days a week with two jobs.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...



That said, that doesn't bother me nearly as much as why in the would would she tweet this? If she's going to do text homework, you just keep quiet about it. Good grief. Once again, this was all about me me me. What a great mom I am! I really don't believe she can help it. She can't think ahead and say, um....maybe I shouldn't tweet this because it's going to open up a can of worms that best be left unopened. WHY can't she do this? It's interesting from a psychological perspective. She just keeps doing it, and must know that she's sticking her foot in her mouth every time she does it, but she just won't stop.


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Yes exactly what I said. It's amazing she tweeted that thinking the Mommy of the Year accolades.

I really don't think it crossed her mind for one little second that some people might actually see her act of martyrdom as not very helpful to the kid, not long term anyway. A poor choice and unfair. The bottom line is she can't think beyond the end of her nose on a more critical level, and this is not a good thing when you're a parent. A parent needs to be able to think, well letting my kid skip school this week would make them so happy and I'd be their BFF forever, but how is that good for my kids' long term goals, sense of responsibility, and so on? I'm afraid TFW has proven over and over she really can't get past the first part of a question like that.

Dot said...

Now all the parents will be pushing to text in their kids' missing homework. Not smart.

Mel said...

Key phrase for the cookbook twitterbots: So excited

It's in both of those tweets. That was a key phrase in something else TFW paid for earlier this summer.

ABC said...

I checked the BN website to see if the book was at my local BN store and it said yes, in stock now. Am going to BN later anyway so I will check.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I've noticed that with most of the bot tweets. "Excited."

How can that many people use the same word to describe something?? The odds of it must be astronomical. Can't they at least throw in "stoked" or "thrilled" or "jumping up and down" to mix it up a bit?

Call Me Crazy said...

AuntieAnn said... 3

"The sexiest thing in the world is being smart and being thoughtful and being generous."
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Kinda leaves Kate out of the running, doesn't it
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Oh, no, Auntie. She is VERY thoughtful and generous - to herself. Ergo, she must believe herself to be incredibly sexy.
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Mel - Excellent, excellent post!

coincidence - I'm glad you were spared any drama on a very difficult day.

capecodmama said...

Ashton's speech was brilliant and so true.

Mel...7 Love your comment and agree.

I have a question for Berks County and localyokel and anyone else who lives in TFW's area with regard to the private school that the kids are in. Is the education a child receives in that school any better than the education a child would receive in a public school in the area? Do kids who go through this school and choose to go onto college get into "better" colleges? I'm curious because of my experience with a local prestigious, private school on the Cape, Cape Cod Academy. CCA starts out at $10,000 per year in kindergarten and ends at $25,000 per year for hs. They are a K-12 school. It is a small school and they gradaute approximately 30 kids per year. The local paper lists where the gradutates are heading to college and they aren't going to any "better" colleges than the kids who gradaute from the public schools. My neighbors put both their kids through CCA. Because we know them, my husband and I feel it's a status issue with them and not for a better education for their kids. Again, their kids didn't get into colleges a publically educated child couldn't get into. We've had several kids in years past from my town's hs who have gone on to Ivy league schools and the rest have gone to either public or private colleges. My best friend's daughter graduated at the top of her class at a public hs here on the Cape and she got a full ride to a state college. Because of the field that she is in, the fact that she is smart and a girl, she is being heavily pursued by companies and her starting salary will be about $85,000 per year. Not bad for a public education. Here on the Cape, I've never felt a private education is better than the public school systems. (Because of the religious instruction you receive, I'm not referring to religious schools when I'm talking about private schools). My thought on education has always been you get out of it what you put into it. Don't put anything into it, you won't get anything out of it. It's true whether your child is in public or private schools.

With regard to TFW, are the kids in this school because of the education or is it a status symbol? Or maybe both. Because they live in a rural area, I can't imagine the public schools are bad. We'll see who goes on to college and where, and who doesn't.

Sorry for the long post. I was just curious if the kids school is any better than a local public school.

Vanessa said...

Then negative publicity results, and she cries bullying
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This is a lot like the anti-bullying campaigns going on in our schools. If someone is genuinely NOT liked, if that person is not your cup of tea but is in your face, trying to get you to be their friend and it's just not happening, why can that person cry "bully"?
You are NOT obligated by some grand law of nature to like and want to be with EVERYONE. You are NOT obligated to agree with what one person so as not to offend or hurt their feelings. My child was MADE to sit and have lunch with a certain "pesty" type kid. This kid didn't have many friends because they were the annoying type, sorry but it's true. In your face, would cry if things didn't go their way, everyone had to bend over for fear of a "meltdown". So they told my child to please sit with this kid during lunch and recess because nobody else would. I don't think teachers are FORCED to sit with a co-worker that they simply don't like during THEIR lunch break? Why should a kid? My child didn't get any "downtime" like the teachers did.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Private schools are able to be selective about their admissions. That's why I take their laundry list of Ive Leagues with a grain of salt. It's easy to send kids to great colleges when you have your pick of the littler to begin with, families with money who can afford intensive test prep, and so on. Public schools welcome all children and therefore can't boast such things. A private school may absolutely be the best, but I think it's very hard to be able to judge that fairly, since you're comparing a stacked deck.

This has also been a criticism of law schools who boast about bar passage rates. Well of course your bar passage rate is 90%. You only select students who you think are very likely to pass in the first place and if after the first year they are making you nervous they won't pass it, you kick them out. If you put a RANDOM student in there, being in that school may have absolutely no bearing on their passage.

This is sort of something that Freakeconomics would like.

BMA said...

Country Day Schools have an excellent reputation across the country, but they are no better than the students who enroll there. They will have plenty of children of doctors who will go on to medical school but they will also have pampered children who will probably burn out in life. The education is there for the taking, but that's just one variable.

Vanessa said...

Reading from the bottom up, just read your post Mel, I also applaud you! Great one!

BMA said...

If my kid wasn't the sharpest kid around but I could send him to an expensive school with a dress code, high standards for behavior and small class sizes, I would. Not every kid at Country Day Schools are the top of the heap, but they are all held to high standards for dress, behavior and effort. Not all of them are Ivy League material but that's not a reflection on the school. They try hard, but IQ, genetics and parental support are important, too. Just because a kid comes from a wealthy family doesn't mean his parents aren't neglectful losers.

Sheri said...


Summer Days And Nights said...(38)

"That said, that doesn't bother me nearly as much as why in the would would she tweet this? If she's going to do text homework, you just keep quiet about it. Good grief. Once again, this was all about me me me. What a great mom I am! I really don't believe she can help it. She can't think ahead and say, um....maybe I shouldn't tweet this because it's going to open up a can of worms that best be left unopened. WHY can't she do this? It's interesting from a psychological perspective. She just keeps doing it, and must know that she's sticking her foot in her mouth every time she does it, but she just won't stop."

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I agree Summer, it does make for an interesting psychological study.

I chalk it up to being a side effect of the narcissism. We can only begin to guess what being a "Reality TV Queen" did to her ego and how she processed all that attention and "yes" people at her beck and call.

Frankly, I think it would have to take a pretty grounded person to not be affected by that mentally.

Seems though, in Kate's case, as the locals tell it, she already had an inflated sense of self and of her own importance. As the stories go, Kate treated people like mediocres even when she was one of them.

It stands to reason that she felt entitled to every bit of praise, every opportunity and every penny she made. Why should she be grateful for things that were her due?

And now that that's all gone? Well, I think the ridiculous tweets are her grasping for any kind of attention.

Most of the time she's not even marketing anything except the "brand". Hard done by Mom of 8 seeks your "love offerings". Praise, kudos and gifts all welcome.

I agree, why on earth tweet something like that unless you were only looking for someone to pat you on the back for being such a great Mom?

And how sad is it that she has to go looking for said praise from strangers through the ether?

Wow, I almost feel sorry for her now. Slow down, I said ALMOST.



Somewhere In Time said...

Well, the fan said she got the book because she pre-ordered:

bernadette ‏@bsimelis
@Allisstair @Kateplusmy8 @HCI_Books I pre-ordered

However, Milo is giddy with excitement because the book comes out shortly:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 1h
@Kateplusmy8 September will be the month 2remember...less than 2wks away fr #LoveIsInTheMix release! Still pre-order http://kateplusmy8.com

Doesn't Milo wonder, as the Chief Ewe, why some lowly fan got her book before she did -- even if both of them pre-ordered? She has no clue that these may be bots?

You gotta love these sheeple!

Ex Nurse said...

That National Enquirer article pisses me off. Unlike TFMJG, he will do what it takes to provide for his children, as best he can. There is honor in doing that kind of work, and his personality will be a huge asset, that will pay off in tips.

Dealing with TFW is Jon's real full-time job. If they had a good working relationship, in which the well-being of the kids was the number one priority, it would make it a lot easier to succeed at a tech job. In the type of work he does, he probably has to be on-call, and projects can have very challenging time deadlines. Since TFW is intent on sabotage at any turn, I can see where it would be hard to keep a steady job. 

Working in a restaurant would give him the flexibility he needs. In addition to nontraditional shifts, restaurant staff will trade shifts and fill-in for each other. Like the entertainment industry, a old restaurant staff will cooperate with each other. And, good servers can make great tips. 

My daughter is the operations manager of a rapidly growing specialty food company. She got this job because she was recommended by several of her former co-workers. She attributed it to the fact that she always kept good relationships with her co-workers and bosses, no matter how difficult they were. She had no management experience, but she was hired because the company cared more about hiring someone who could develop and maintain relationships, so that the owner could focus on expansion plans. She was in the right place at the right time, but she was only there at all because she focuses on maintaining good relationships--even with difficult diva chefs (sorry chef summers--you know it is true ;-)

If TFW had not alienated each and every one in the industry where her coveted chair is, she would probably not be trying to hold together a living with chewing gum and scotch tape. The entertainment industry relies on collaboration and cooperation from everyone, no matter how big or small their piece is. 

Spot on said...

I had to come here and post this picture I stumbled upon online because it sums up what's been discussed about karma and Kate's kids paying her back one day.Seriously, it's like this picture was made based on your discussions:
http://www.bestfunnyjokes4u.com/lol-funny-joke-pic-of-the-day-3/

jbranck1980 said...

If TFW had not alienated each and every one in the industry where her coveted chair is, she would probably not be trying to hold together a living with chewing gum and scotch tape.

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Love the chewing gum and scotch tape analogy. Fits perfectly!

Somewhere In Time said...


Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 1h
@Kateplusmy8 September will be the month 2remember...less than 2wks away fr #LoveIsInTheMix release! Still pre-order http://kateplusmy8.com

Oh, sure, MIlo. We'll remember September for decades to come because of Kate's cookbook. We won't remember September to honor those who died on September 11 (bombings or whatever). When September rolls around each year, we'll say..."Remember back in 2013 when Kate's book was released -- best month of the year!!!!! Let's celebrate by making some of that salty stir fry. YUM! Delish!"

What a doofus.

ABC said...

Crapbook is at my BN. 5 copies, stashed away in cookbook section. Had to hunt for the book. BN is apparently making no effort to push this book.

prairiemary said...

So the sheeple think that TFW has it rough?
A rough day was what I had yesterday. Yesterday was 11 years since I lost my child to cancer. And since I am unable to work because of my health, I was home alone all day, and thought of my girl every minute of the day, and there were many tears. Yeah, right, sheeple, TFW has things so bloody rough.

Anonymous said...

So the cookbook's out way earlier than they said? I wonder if they want to rip the bandaid off and just get this over with.

Call Me Crazy said...

prairiemary - I am so sorry for your anguish.

silimom said...

Mel 7 - I am literally out of my chair and giving you a standing ovation. You articulated so perfectly one of the major complaints people have with Kate Gosselin as a human being.

Bravo!

silimom said...

Admin #8: Somewhere along the way we decided what job is something to be embarrassed about and what job isn't and I think that's so sad.

*****

I love the clip you posted of Ashton Kutcher. He's not the only celebrity that feels that way.

Mike Rowe has created a new foundation that you can read about here: http://profoundlydisconnected.com

This was a speech he gave at the Boy Scout 2013 Jamboree that is just as powerful as Ashton Kutcher's in my opinion. It's 30 minutes long but well worth the time to watch. Start at 3:40 where he talks about his grandfather and parents. His admiration for them is wonderful to see.

silimom said...

Oops I think I forgot the link to Mike Rowe's jamboree talk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85dCjsCgvXQ

Formerly Duped said...

prairiemary - I am so sorry for your anguish.

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I second that. Time heals a little but you will never forget the pain and sorrow. So sorry you and your family experienced such tragedy.

TLC stinks said...

First, kudos to Jon on doing what takes to support himself and his kids. I would not read too much into the NE headline. They are all about grabbing attention. Waiting tables is good, honest work which is more than I can say for TFW's work track record.

I missed her tweet about the child's homework, but yes, it's obvious she wants the world to know what an outstanding mother she is. I have, on occasion, run to the school to drop off forgotten homework but my kid could not afford to make a zero.

There will be spin about how "well" the cookbook is selling. I have to laugh when I think of the sheeple attempting those recipes. This will be good.

Doesn't MS. CAN DO know how to dial for an appliance repairman? I get the feeling that tweet was her implying she cannot afford the repair. Really? How many attorneys does she have now?

Mel, your comments hit it perfectly. Kate thinks people are just as gullible now as they were when the tups were born. Except for a few fans who are in denial or just plain envious, the world gets it what a fake she is. Thank you for putting it so simply. I wish somebody who is a reputable reporter would just lay it out as you did publicly. Oh that's right, she'll sic BV on them. Anything to protect the image.

TLC stinks said...

Ex Nurse, ITA. Add to that, never burn your bridges. Kate did. And that's why everyone is questioning her lawsuit. She is entirely responsible for her failure.

Formerly Duped said...

Kate's Famous K8 Salad- isn't that a dumb name for a salad as K8 means Kate?

Surprised nothing named for Hannah to my knowledge.

BooksRUs said...

ABC said... 58
Crapbook is at my BN. 5 copies, stashed away in cookbook section. Had to hunt for the book. BN is apparently making no effort to push this book.
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I check the BN website, and it showed the "Pick up in Store" option. I checked the stores in my area, and they all list it as "In Stock".

I called my local store and yes, they have it on the shelves. I didn't ask how many copies.

When I told them I was surprised because their site said it wasn't going to be released until Sept. 24, the woman checked with her receiving manager and said they have the okay to sell the book now.

I remember when the pulication date was pushed back on Amazon, that BN still had Sept.3 listed as the release date. I think they changed it about a week or 2 later.

Most likely the person who tweeted that they received the book ordered in from BN. Looks like all those people who pre-ordered at Amazon are going to get their books 2 weeks later than those who ordered from BN or go into one of their stores to buy it.



silimom said...

Vanessa said... 47

******

I need to speak about what you wrote.

Now, I agree, I think the pendulum is swinging to the extreme again and, just like political correctness, many people over use the term "bullying".

I understand not appreciating the fact that your child had to set next to that "pesky kid" who melts down when things do not go their way and that no one wants to be friends with.

But did it ever occur to you, perhaps, that that "pesky" child has autism? Or some other disorder? Could you not turn it around and reframe it for your child so they might understand that, while there will always be people that we find irritating, we need to always be kind, because everyone is fighting a hard battle? That by sitting next to that "problem child", your daughter may have been able to model what we, in the ASD world, call neurotypical behavior for them so that then the teachers can use your child as an example for that 'annoying little brat (not your words, but ones that are often said about children with disabilities) to help them learn about social skills?

Vanessa, I am going to tell you right now that I am angry with what you wrote. Might I be projecting? Possibly. But I am still angry. I will get over it. But at this moment I am seething.

Who are you to assume or judge a child? Are you best friends with this child's mother or father or grandparents or whomever takes care of them? Do you know what challenges this family might be facing? Or are you just writing this child off?

I am not saying you have to like everyone. I am sorry your child was forced to sit next to another child and eat lunch with them because no one else in the school would and that one day of their life was ruined apparently by having contact with this child who does not live up to your expectations.

I hope that you speak with the principal at your school or your child's teacher and express your disdain that your child was encouraged to be an "upstander". Because heaven forbid we teach our children to look beyond what they see and try and understand that sometimes other kids are different, sometimes what we perceive as bratty behavior or being spoiled is a child doing their best to cope with overwhelming sensory stimuli or social skill demands that they aren't equipped emotionally or cognitively to handle.

Just because a child isn't sitting in a corner drooling and rocking back and forth, or in a wheel chair, or deaf or blind doesn't mean that they don't have challenges.

I need to stop writing because I just erased something that I would regret later if I had posted it.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Anony Mouse Cat ‏@ANONY_MOUSECAT 34m
Is her plan to garnish Jon's tip $$ to pay off lawyer fees?? Looks like a case with no winners any way U slice it. #justsaying

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If she is, she's barking up the wrong tree. In PA, there are only six or so reasons that wages can be garnished, and paying off a lawyer is not one of them.

prairiemary said...

Thanks, Formerly Duped and Call Me Crazy, that is such a great word to describe my pain, anguish. I have suffered much in my life time, and have even been called a 'medical miracle', and thru all of my experiences I have become a very strong woman. The worst was losing my daughter, sitting beside her watching her lose her battle. Maybe that is why I do not like TFW. She is not a strong, wonderful, caring, loving, selfless, hard working, awesome woman, like her fan club seems to think she is. No, I think she is the opposite of all of those things. I wonder how she would end up, if she had to suffer any amount of anguish in her life? Would she stand tall, and venture on, or would she fold, and cry pity? She has no clue what hardship is. So many of us here have gone thru very hard times, many of us were abused during our formative years, but broke that cycle when we ourselves became mothers. We are true survivors, while she is not.
Jon is also a survivor, and if he is waiting tables, then good for him, I admire him for stepping up to the plate and doing what he has to do to survive, and do his best for his children. What he is doing is done for the love of his children. What TFW try's to do is capture any kind of fame that she can find. And it usually involves her children. She is not capable of making it on her own, like Jon does. She is nothing without her kids. Whenever she tries to do something without their involvement, she fails, big time. Her 6 sheeple think she is so wonderful, so smart, so organized, she is just their everything. But without those few fans, once again, she is nothing.
Am I jealous of her? Yes, I am jealous of her because she has her good health, and she has 8 very healthy children. I would not wish any harm to come to those children by saying that. I just wish she would get some sort of elbow to the ribs, to make her grow up and open her damn eyes, and see how good she really has it. Just grow up already, you blonde fool!! Show some appreciation for the awesome things that you have in your life, instead of living so selfishly! Think of others, who have nothing, yet are good, honest people, who are great, loving parents.
Sorry for the rant. Going away for a few days to spend time with my 5 grandkids, and help out my daughter with the last of the canning. And we will go shopping for the 10 Xmas Shoeboxes we put together every year. Something TFW should be doing, showing her children how to help others.

silimom said...

Vanessa - this is to help educate you. I hope you will watch it and maybe develop a different perspective.

http://www.bit.ly/ExplainingAutism

silimom said...

Here is another video about autism you might find enlightening.

http://autismawarenesspage.com/a-world-with-autism/

PatK said...

Many hugs for prairiemary.

silimom said...

Vanessa, one last video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdUJbfOMyps

Vanessa said...

@ silimom
I never said the child had autism.

Jane said...

prairiemary - my heart aches for you. the pain of losing a child is indescribable. i hope you have days, or periods within a day, when you can find comfort and peace.

Vanessa said...

@ silimom

I guess I'm not one to judge but neither are you. And please don't go there with what I should or should not be teaching my child. You expressed the EXACT reason why my child was chosen to sit with this other child. She IS upstanding and did NOT complain to the teacher, but frankly it is not her responsibility to keep this other child occupied or distracted during HER lunches, daily. You obviously took this personally and I apologize. Not ONCE did I mention there was autism involved or any other neurotypical behavior. I was making a parallel with ADULTS having the choice and not be FORCED to sit with someone they genuinely do not like. Not all behavior outside of the "norm" is due to autism etc. Can there not be kids that actually p*ss others off? Like Khate??
And please don't assume I don't know of the challenges regarding special needs children, I have TWO Down's kids in my immediate family.

Over And Out said...

"Vanessa, I am going to tell you right now that I am angry with what you wrote. Might I be projecting? Possibly. But I am still angry. I will get over it. But at this moment I am seething...Who are you to assume or judge a child?"

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But, Silimom, aren't you judging Vanessa and why she had the reaction that she did? There may be more to this situation than you know -- more than the poster revealed.

capecodmama said...

prairiemary...I'm going to echo PatK...75 sentiments and send many hugs to you. I can't imagine the loss of a child.

Vanessa said...

And also silimom,
With all due respect (and I mean it) I do remember a poster, whether it was you or not, getting very upset when people thought TFW has a form of autism. Do 2 of the G. kids have a form of autism because they were so violent towards others kids and adults? So much so they were expelled?

I can't believe that all antisocial behavior, or a failure to make or keep friends is automatically due to autism. If I as an adult genuinely do not like another adult because of their behavior, I have the choice to not keep their company. My point was there's a parallel between TFW doing things to provoke and then cries bully. There ARE kids who provoke and can be annoying, I'm sorry if that offends you.

Pooshanella Goober said...

silimom said... 70

Vanessa said... 47

******

I need to speak about what you wrote.
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silimom - I, too, felt the emotions that come from a parent who has an ASD child. My son was not diagnosed until he was in 3rd grade (long story). I remember the whisperings from other classroom parents about my son. I remember clearly (this was over 9 years ago), the day his bus driver called me on the phone to tell me that my son was being picked on by a bully and that she reported it to the school. I remember meeting with the principal and hearing that the school was aware of the bullying both on the bus and in the classroom & then hearing from his teacher that the bully had been suspended for 3 days (they were in 1st grade!). It was that same day that I was told that the bully's parents only reaction to the situation was that "boys will be boys".

My child did not have a diagnosis or label for why he may have been annoying to others. He was desperate for friends. He is a loving child that wanted to be liked. He didn't understand (as part of his autism) that there are certain social cues he should know... My heart breaks for the meanness he experienced and will probably experience for the rest of his life.

I have "typical" children -- both older, and I thank God everyday that they have always (even before their brother was born) been both sympathetic and empathetic to those that others might consider different or spoiled or bratty.

When I read the description of the child that Vanessa wrote about, I, too, thought the child sounded like he/she could be on the spectrum. Perhaps we are more attuned to that.

However, I also think as parents of 'typical'('normal') children, situations like this are great opportunities to teach about differences and show our children that empathy (and even sympathy), understanding, and kindness can go a long way to help others. It is actually a win-win scenario, as those children that go that 'extra mile' can develop self-esteem, empathy, sympathy, etc from helping those that are different. And in the midst of their kindness, they may discover that they have a new friend. (we can only hope)

I don't mean to come down on anyone's remarks, and that is why I didn't speak up until now. I think the situation described could be turned into a positive experience for Vanessa's child. He/she may have had to give up fun lunch, but he/she also helped brighten another classmates lunch, day and even week. The teacher may have been trying to teach everyone -- Vanessa's child and the rest of the class, a lesson, not to punish anyone, but to get the internal satisfaction out of being kind.
:::off my soapbox::: (please excuse grammar & punctuation - this is from my heart)

fidosmommy said...

I went all through grade school with 2 kids who were irritating as chigger bites, and neither one of them had any kind of disorder or reason for their behavior. Pammy and Philip were just
abrasive, loud, obtrusive kids who drove all of us to distraction. This was back in the '60's and the thinking back then was to separate them out. Put them in the back of the room by themselves or out in the hall to do their work.
Now teachers don't want to separate anybody out, but try to find ways to integrate.

Sillimom, from what I understood when I read your post was that your child didn't want anyone ostracized, but chose to connect. While it was not your child's job to do that, it was a lovely, compassionate gesture. I'm sorry if it became expected of her to the point that she could no longer be her choice.

That's how I see it, anyway.

BooksRUs said...

Someone just tweeted that they received the book and included a picture of the book.

anitra ‏@ravendan3 2m
@Kateplusmy8 Look what what I found on my doorstep today ,did a happy dance #dinner is so on. pic.twitter.com/NVFDQFAO6h

I wonder if those that have received the book ordered through B&N, since it seems they are already selling it.

Are those that ordered through Amazon going to start making irate phone calls or emails? Amazon, B&N, and HCI still show Sept. 24 as the release date on their websites.

foxy said...

Vanessa 82. I totally agree with you. Some kids are just annoying and disrespectful or feel it is all about them and they want their way all the time. I have a niece like that and she does not have autism. She is spoiled rotten and cannot hold onto relationships. Her siblings moved out as soon as they were 18, put themselves through college and never looked back. This particular niece still puts demands on everyone, but she is mostly ignored because she only cares about herself. She still wants everyone to drop everything to cater to her. I understand what you are saying. Not all difficult children have special needs and not all special needs children are difficult.

Paula said...

Cookbook must be available in select B&N stores only. I went to their website to look for the books in stores within a 50 mile radius and all stores indicated that no were in stock. Not that I would buy that slop anyway.

silimom said...

Vanessa said... 79

Please see my responses below. This is two parts as I am beyond the 4,096 character limit.
@ silimom

I guess I'm not one to judge but neither are you. And please don't go there with what I should or should not be teaching my child.

For that comment, I do apologize. You are correct, it is not my place to tell you how to raise your child anymore than it would be your place to tell me how to raise mine.

You expressed the EXACT reason why my child was chosen to sit with this other child. She IS upstanding and did NOT complain to the teacher, but frankly it is not her responsibility to keep this other child occupied or distracted during HER lunches, daily.

In your original post, you did not indicate that this was a daily requirement for your child, or if you were I did not read it that way.

If this is a regular occurrence, I can understand your frustration and I would still encourage you to speak with the principal or her teacher or, if you have, then take it to the next level and speak to the superintendent of instruction in your school district.

If this is a case of a child with special needs, you will do a great deal of good by encouraging the district not to force children to be companions but rather to educate them on the challenges these children face. Project Cornerstone, through the YMCA, is a very good program that you might recommend.

You obviously took this personally and I apologize.

Yes and I thank you for your apology.

Not ONCE did I mention there was autism involved or any other neurotypical behavior.

No you didn't. It did come across to me, however, that you have made a judgement about this child without knowing all of the facts of his/her situation. And to be fair, I am making an opposite assumption that this child may have some sort of developmental or neurological disability, whether it be autism, ADHD, cognitive delay, what have you, that could be influencing their behavior. So I apologize to you as well.

As I said, I am probably projecting. I see your attitude about this child more than I would like to count and have watched my own children and the friends of my children looked upon as "less" because of their behavior. It is a sore point with me, I fear, and I am quick to get defensive when I suspect I am seeing it in others.

end part 1.

silimom said...

Part 2.



I was making a parallel with ADULTS having the choice and not be FORCED to sit with someone they genuinely do not like. Not all behavior outside of the "norm" is due to autism etc. Can there not be kids that actually p*ss others off? Like Khate??

No, not all behavior outside the norm is due to autism, etc. However, in my experience as a teacher, there is usually a reason a child is behaving that way. Obviously, for me at least, I felt your analogy was a poor one.

As for the "Kate has autism", yes, I was one of several posters who have commented over the years that I don't think Kate has autism. But again, perhaps she does. I personally, based on my experience, do not believe she does, but in the end I am not a trained mental health professional, so I am only speculating. I do feel, though, that her behavior has a cause and I always have.

As for the two children expelled, again, as a teacher, it is my experience that there is usually an underlying reason why children (or adults for that matter) behave the way they do.

Yes, there are people that just "piss" you off. Anger is a feeling and you can't say someone doesn't feel the way they do (although many people try). You feel obviously angry because of the situation with your daughter. I feel angry when I see people make snap judgements about any child without knowing that child's history, and I acknowledge that I am making assumptions about the child in your case without knowing all the facts either and that makes me feel chagrined.

However, I still stand and will always stand behind my conviction that there is usually a reason people behave they way they do, including Kate Gosselin, including even the worse criminals in history.

I think the larger issue here is do we condone bad behavior? As I said, we are all fighting a hard battle. Everyone has something they're dealing with.

I can't speak for what this child your child was forced to befriend is going through or not, although I would argue that there is definitely more to the story there.

I can speak for my situation, and no, bad behavior/poor choices/what have you is not excused. My children know that autism is an explanation not and excuse. It helps our family shift our perspective, to look beyond our feelings of irritation or frustration so that we can address the issue our child is having at that moment in time and help them move on and then keep teaching them the skills they need to try to regulate their own behavior.

And please don't assume I don't know of the challenges regarding special needs children, I have TWO Down's kids in my immediate family.

I stand corrected and I apologize for my assumption.

silimom said...

I am going to be taking a break from this blog for a while. This has hit a nerve with me and I need time to regroup and reassess my own feelings on this topic. It is a sensitive topic for many people, as Vanessa's and my own reactions attest.

To those I have offended, I apologize.

Thank you Goober, for your comment. I appreciated that. :-)

Millicent said...

Sillimom- I hope you will come back after your break. I didn't see all the comments, so I will make no comment about the particular discussion that led up to this. However, I sometimes need a break from various on-line blogs or websites, to decompress, to focus simply on my own day to day life, to recharge and count my blessings and feel good again. Wishing you well.

Somewhere In Time said...

Are those that ordered through Amazon going to start making irate phone calls or emails? Amazon, B&N, and HCI still show Sept. 24 as the release date on their websites.

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Milo and her cronies must be on a rampage right now! How dare they? Another two weeks to wait for the Book of the Century? The September to end all Septembers! However will they pass the time? What coping skills will they put into place? Oh, the humanity!

SwingsandRoundabouts said...

A child who is forced to sit with another child against their own wishes is being exploited by the adults in the school. The first child is not an adult, is not a therapist , does not have specialized training to deal with children with special needs. Let the adults in the situation deal with it by talking to all the kids, by trying to explain why patience and understanding is necessary etc. To put a child in such a position without preparation is just an abdication of responsibility on the part of the school. The school is a place of education, let them educate. Require that they do it properly.

Anonymous said...


franky here

re: autism

there, IMO, are too many children assumed to be autistic based on the now vast array of the recognised syndrom.

How about, we are all different, to different degrees? Yes, some are obviously autistic, which I believe are actual geniuses in their own way, think Rainman.

My friends' son can count like you would not believe, but cannot interact "socially"

LABELS belong on cans, not humans.

My nephews have their challenges, and my dd loves them as brothers, they all learn from each other.

De was also singled out to help the "socially awkward", which she did without it becoming a cross to bear.

Be proud your child was called on to try to help, and respecttheir thoughts about it.

When D realised she could not help, she stood aside and said so, made her a stronger woman.

Heidi Hi Heidi Ho said...

The bear is NOT hibernating. He's BACKKKKK LOL

Gosselin Book ‏@GosselinBook 1m

That awkward moment when you file a frivolous lawsuit and your lawyer explains legal discovery to you. #Oooops

Formerly Duped said...

Silimom:

I always enjoy your posts but understand if you need a break.But please come back with more recipe results and your other interesting comments.

I feel I understand both sides of the issue; I have a daughter who had Selective Mutism (social anxiety where she did not speak out loud in school or any public places) & who was ostracized by the popular kids.She has eaten lunch in bathrooms, empty classrooms or not at all.

I also have a son, who was the type of child to be the one to ask a Special Needs child to sit at his table or go on playdates because he learned compassion from his sister's experiences. It then became expected of him by staff.That's not fair either.


We all need to be open-minded about behavior of others' children. Yes, brats do exist, but please,always give a child the benefit of the doubt. I will never forget when people said my daughter was rude for not saying thank you in public, or asking in front of her if she was deaf or what was wrong with her.

She is fine and functioning normally as a young adult thanks to her own maturing, a handful of kind people, some rare and special kids, and many more. I must say, though, a number of teachers could be considered bullies by not opening her snacks or giving her a paper to draw on if she didn't ask as a young child. They also talked in front of her about her shortcomings, theories about her problem, and other school gossip.

Kate is a twit said...

Robert just tweeted:

Gosselin Book ‏@GosselinBook 9m
That awkward moment when you file a frivolous lawsuit and your lawyer explains legal discovery to you. #Oooops

Call Me Crazy said...

Vanessa and silimom - I can sympathize and empathize with each of your positions.

All of our opinions and thoughts and feelings and behaviors are shaped by the experiences we live. Sometimes when those experiences are particularly difficult, we become far more acutely attuned to, sometimes even defensive about, situations that have caused us or someone we love pain.

I think this was an important conversation that took place here today. I know it gave me much to think about.

Thank you both.

silimom - I hope you won't stay away too long.

BooksRUs said...

These were posted on HCI PR's person FB:

This I assume is in regard to the articles about the book tanking:

While working with celebrity authors, it never ceases to amaze me how the public fabricates stories, shares them and start their own campaign of lies - even numbers. Like pulling untruths from thin air and making them look real. I guess this is what keeps the tabloid press/blogs in business. (This couldn't possible happen with mainstream media, now could it?? hmmm)

This was posted today:

12 city radio Satellite tour, Today Show, Katie Couric Show, 2 B&N signings (NJ), Entertainment Tonight, Inside Edition, Extra, Marilyn Denis Show (CA), Steve & Chris Show (CA & US), Chapters event (CA) - that's the lineup for my "A" list author. More deets to come. Lovin' it!

Chapters is a bookstore chain in Canada. So it looks like Kate will be travelling to Canada also for this PR tour.

"A" list author? Ha ha ha.

Mary Ann said...

PrairieMary, I am so sorry for your loss and pain. When Kate tweets about " all she has been through" it infuriates me. I lost my 56 year old husband in 2007 and then our youngest son in 2009. I would not wish this pain and heartache on anyone, but for the love of God does she ever think about what she says??? Does she ever realize just how lucky she is and that she has had a pretty easy go of things. I cry every day for my son still and I know you miss your daughter terribly Prairiemary. God bless you and know we will be with them again.

Why unnamed? said...

On Facebook (Kim Weiss): 12 city radio Satellite tour, Today Show, Katie Couric Show, 2 B&N signings (NJ), Entertainment Tonight, Inside Edition, Extra, Marilyn Denis Show (CA), Steve & Chris Show (CA & US), Chapters event (CA) - that's the lineup for my "A" list author. More deets to come. Lovin' it!

Another Mother said...

"Labels" also help pinpoint issues and are needed for the state/schools to take action and get certain kids help.

The Autism spectrum is huge. From kids who can function fine to some who need to be medicated and have an aide 24/7.

Over And Out said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
Hey moms!Once your kids are in bed, do what we all do..Shop online! Check out http://couponsbykate.com/ for gr8 savings! Saving makes us happy!

Here again, she doesn't THINK! No, Kate, "all" moms don't do that. Days don't end just because the kids are in bed. Moms do laundry; they get things ready for the next day; they catch up on housework; they take care of fussy babies, feed them, bathe them; if they brought work home from the office, they do that. Some do late night grocery shopping and figure out what to have on the dinner table the next day.

For some, just being able to pay the bills is what makes them happy. Trying to juggle finances, figuring out whether to pay the electric bill or gas bill that month comes first. There is no #savingmakesushappy" for some parents because there isn't enough money there to spend in the first place.

She's so out of touch with so many real life moms.


Ingrid said...

While working with celebrity authors, it never ceases to amaze me how the public fabricates stories, shares them and start their own campaign of lies - even numbers. Like pulling untruths from thin air and making them look real. I guess this is what keeps the tabloid press/blogs in business. (This couldn't possible happen with mainstream media, now could it?? hmmm)
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and this woman probably thinks TFW is just the nicest unselfish gifted person in the world who would never lie or throw tantrums. hahaha

Call Me Crazy said...

"12 city radio Satellite tour"

Does this mean it is one interview that is broadcast to 12 cities? Ha! Talk about exaggerating TFW's importance.

Poor Kim. It sounds like she thinks these appearances will somehow translate into massive cookbook sales. Sorry, Kim. Your "A" list author is incapable of coming off as genuine or appealing.

I predict a lot of cartons of books ending up in storage somewhere.

Heidi Hi Heidi Ho said...

Gosselin Book ‏@GosselinBook now

Looking forward to @Kateplusmy8 and company answering questions about the book under oath during Discovery - story by story.

Ingrid said...

Gosselin Book ‏@GosselinBook 1m
Looking forward to @Kateplusmy8 and company answering questions about the book under oath during Discovery - story by story.

Go Robert!

Kate is a twit said...

Gosselin Book ‏@GosselinBook 2m
Looking forward to @Kateplusmy8 and company answering questions about the book under oath during Discovery - story by story.

Kate is a twit said...

2 B&N signings (NJ)
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Kim should brush up on her geography. Someone should inform her that Staten Island is in NY.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Gosselin Book ‏@GosselinBook now

Looking forward to @Kateplusmy8 and company answering questions about the book under oath during Discovery - story by story.
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Story by story?? On my!! Go Robert.

Suzee said...

‏Sounds like Robert might have had a meeting with his attorneys recently! ;-)

@GosselinBook
Looking forward to @Kateplusmy8 and company answering questions about the book under oath during Discovery - story by story.

Call Me Crazy said...

Mary Ann - I'm sorry you have endured such terrible losses. I wish you strength and peace.

And no. I don't think for a minute Kate appreciates how very lucky she really is.

Rearranging the Deck Chairs on the Titanic said...

To Prairie Mom and Mary Ann: I am so sorry for the loss of your children. It is the greatest pain to endure.

Suzee said...

Why unnamed? said...

On Facebook (Kim Weiss): 12 city radio Satellite tour, Today Show, Katie Couric Show, 2 B&N signings (NJ), Entertainment Tonight, Inside Edition, Extra, Marilyn Denis Show (CA), Steve & Chris Show (CA & US), Chapters event (CA) - that's the lineup for my "A" list author. More deets to come. Lovin' it

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You're so right. If Ms Weiss is so proud of her 'A' list author, why not state her name? LOL (pretty crappy PR person, imo - not using author's name or the book title!) lmao

Jane said...

Looked at her FB page and the author isn't named. I also don't see any reference to Kate or the book anywhere on the page.

Kim Weiss
8 hours ago
12 city radio Satellite tour, Today Show, Katie Couric Show, 2 B&N signings (NJ), Entertainment Tonight, Inside Edition, Extra, Marilyn Denis Show (CA), Steve & Chris Show (CA & US), Chapters event (CA) - that's the lineup for my "A" list author. More deets to come. Lovin' it!

Rearranging the Deck Chairs on the Titanic said...

To Kate is a Twit (#97): Yeh, TFW... that pesky little thing called discovery. Ha Ha Ha. Looks like TFW is a fool.

Rhymes with Witch said...

12 city radio Satellite tour 99.

Methinks SATELLITE is a key word. (?)


Oh look katie. They have NINE (count 'em 9) kids including twins and quintuplets.
No fertility drugs! You are far from unique but I won't bother to list all of the other families of HMOs (you know, privacy and all
that).

http://boston.com/community/moms/blogs/parent_buzz/2013/09/vegas_mom_gives_birth_to_quintuplets.html

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I'm afraid the numbers don't lie. We can all see the piddly preorder stats. And compare them to peers like PW.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I've seen a satellite radio tour. You sit in bed in your Pjs and do it all over the phone. Takes about an hour at 5 am and then it's back to sleep!

RonnieandMaggie said...

RH just added to his blog. It is a short clip from "Scarface" of Al Pacino shooting a machine a gun yelling "you want to play rough?" and firing!

Anonymous said...

But did it ever occur to you, perhaps, that that "pesky" child has autism? Or some other disorder?

Long time reader, mostly lurker. As the parent of a child on the autism spectrum, I just had to say, "here, here". To the poster who, I'm sure, didn't mean to touch this nerve - Do you remember how you felt as a young person trying to talk to the person you had a crush on? How awkward you felt? How you didn't know what to say? How words came out of your mouth that made you cringe later? Do you remember how awful that feeling was? That's how my son feels almost every minute of every day. He SO wants to fit in. He just doesn't know how. The things that are instinct to us are so difficult for him. Please let this cross your mind the next time you come across one of those children. Thanks.

Over In TFW's County said...

Kim should brush up on her geography. Someone should inform her that Staten Island is in NY.

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Could be she thinks Staten Island is one of those barrier islands down the shore in Jersey.

TWO (count 'em TWO) book stores! Wow...stop the presses.

In what NJ Barnes & Noble will she make an appearance?

fidosmommy said...

If the unnamed author with the unnamed book is A list, what puts an author on the B list? Or D list?

ncgirl said...

Another shot by Robert on the blog, a video of Let's Get Ready to Rumble by Michael Buffer.

The article about Jon's restaurant job was posted on a gossip site. Almost all responses were supportive of Jon. One poster said that Jon's job was better than anything Kate or the Kardashians did.

fidosmommy said...

Yeah, depositions would be great fun to listen in on, wouldn't they? Too bad it's not allowed.

Go Robert, indeed! My Visa is still in my hand awaiting your new book.

chefsummer said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 119
I've seen a satellite radio tour. You sit in bed in your Pjs and do it all over the phone. Takes about an hour at 5 am and then it's back to sleep!
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Well if TFW is doing the satellite radio tour in her pj's it's Milo's dream come true.

KK in bed in her pj's my goodness Milo may wet her self lol.

BooksRUs said...

Jane said... 115
Looked at her FB page and the author isn't named. I also don't see any reference to Kate or the book anywhere on the page.
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Jane-the only time she ever mentioned the book and Kate by name was back on March 27, when the book was first announced. The tour dates that she posted gibes with the dates that HCI has on their website, so she has to be speaking about Kate. Well, except HCI's posting about appearing on Piers Morgan. Guess that fell through, since this is more important news going on in the world.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Well if TFW is doing the satellite radio tour in her pj's it's Milo's dream come true.

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Great never meant to paint that picture. Wouldn't a bikini satellite tour poolside be even better though?

capecodmama said...

sillimom...Take as much time as you need but I hope you come back. I've always enjoyed your posts.

Mary Ann...Hugs are being sent your way as well.

Go Robert!

chefsummer said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 126

You're welcome. :-)

Shelby said...

To the poster who, I'm sure, didn't mean to touch this nerve........................................


Where in Vanessa's post did she say she had no compassion for kids with mental disabilities? She was simply venting about her own child having to be another child's babysitter.

I don't blame her. I'd complain too if it were my child. Kids have enough pressure on them at school. No need to add to it by 'forcing' kids to sit together on their BREAKS.

Jane said...

Books --

Interesting that the FB post has been up for 9+ hours with no mention of Kate. One of the commenters asked who this A list celeb is and there's no reply. Seems like Kim might be a tad embarrassed or covering her butt.

chefsummer said...

Maybe the A-lister is Melissa Gorga for TFHNJ her book is out and.

she's supposed to be in Staten Island doing a signing.

Midnight Madness said...

Great never meant to paint that picture. Wouldn't a bikini satellite tour poolside be even better though?

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LOL! Much better. Milo would be having a sweet dream after that tour! Yum! LOM couldn't get there soon enough to put her to bed.


"Where in Vanessa's post did she say she had no compassion for kids with mental disabilities? She was simply venting about her own child having to be another child's babysitter."

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I'm not even sure who put the autism, special needs or mental disability out there. Could it be that the child was just plain obnoxious and annoying because that's the way he/she is? I wouldn't be happy either if my child were being used as a babysitter because the teachers weren't sure what to do with the other child. Yes, we teach our children to be kind to others, to be compassionate, and to befriend those who have difficulty making friends. To have a friend is to be a friend. But if behavior is an issue there, a young child is not trained to be a behavioral therapist. The school needs to deal with that issue, not the child.

gotyournumberKate said...

@GosselinBook
Looking forward to @Kateplusmy8 and company answering questions about the book under oath during Discovery - story by story.

Kate will have no problem lying under oath. #1. She believes her own lies. #2. She has no conscience.

Dwindle said...

I haven't read all the comments yet, but did any of you see this obituary written by the daughter of a woman who died of cancer in a nursing home? Either that or the G kids are using an alias for their 'mother'.

"Marianne Theresa John­son-Reddick born Jan 4, 1935 and died alone on Sept. 30, 2013. She is sur­vived by her 6 of 8 children whom she spent her lifetime torturing in every way pos­sible. While she neglected and abused her small chil­dren, she refused to allow anyone else to care or show compassion towards them. When they became adults she stalked and tortured anyone they dared to love. Everyone she met, adult or child was tortured by her cruelty and exposure to violence, criminal activity, vulgarity, and hatred of the gentle or kind human spirit.

On behalf of her children whom she so abrasively ex­posed to her evil and vio­lent life, we celebrate her passing from this earth and hope she lives in the after­life reliving each gesture of violence, cruelty, and shame that she delivered on her children. Her surviv­ing children will now live the rest of their lives with the peace of knowing their nightmare finally has some form of closure.


Most of us have found peace in helping those who have been exposed to child abuse and hope this message of her final passing can re­vive our message that abus­ing children is unforgive­able, shameless, and should not be tolerated in a “hu­mane society”. Our greatest wish now, is to stimulate a national movement that mandates a purposeful and dedicated war against child abuse in the United States of America."

http://www.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?Dato=20130912&Kategori=NEWS&Lopenr=130912005&Ref=AR

gotyournumberKate said...

Jane said... 115
Looked at her FB page and the author isn't named. I also don't see any reference to Kate or the book anywhere on the page.

I'm sure Kate forbid her from giving out places and dates for security reasons. Plus, Kate probably thinks the "haters" will contact these places and hound them about having her. Where the A list comes from I have no idea. Kate is far from being an A lister.

NJGal51 said...
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Wowser said...

Every time I go to Gosselinbook.com, I only get the post of the chess board and all the articles written about TFW....does he have a different blog site I am missing?

Kate is a twit said...

In what NJ Barnes & Noble will she make an appearance?
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The one in Paramus. Here's what HCI has listed as appearances on their website.

Monday, September 23 National Radio satellite tour

9:00 -10:30 am


Tuesday, September 24 Today Show (LIVE)

Katie Show (TAPES)



Tuesday, September 24 Barnes & Noble – Staten Island

7:00 pm



Wednesday, September 25 Katie Show (AIRS)



Wednesday, September 25 Inside Edition

10:00



Wednesday, September 25 Extra

12:30



Wednesday, September 25 Barnes & Noble – Paramus, NJ [PENDING]

7:00 pm



Thursday, September 26 CNN/Piers Morgan Show [PENDING]

2:00 (tape)



Friday, September 27 Baltimore Book Festival




Saturday, September 28 Baltimore Book Festival



Tuesday, October 1 The Marilyn Dennis Show (national Canadian TV show)


According to the B&N website, the Paramus signing is booked.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

I'm sure Kate forbid her from giving out places and dates for security reasons. Plus, Kate probably thinks the "haters" will contact these places and hound them about having her.

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If you check the B&N website, Kate's signing date for Paramus, New Jersey, is listed for September 25, with the address and phone number. I'm sure if any of the "haters" wanted to contact the store, they certainly could find it very easily.

NJGal51 said...

@SooooooStupid: @GosselinBook @Kateplusmy8 You wouldn't be trying to use "discovery" to threaten a person would you? Because that's a crime.
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I think Robert's tweet was a statement of fact and not a threat.

Wowser said...

Gotyournumber: Kate would indeed probably lie...but my guess is that she is so full f herself and has been so used to going to court to get her own way with Jon, has been protected by all the CA's that she has NO idea that the feces will hit the rotating oscillator with this case against Robert. She is EXPECTING to walk in there as THEE GREAT KATE GOSSELIN where EVERYONE just gives her what she wants. I think she is FINALLY going to have to face the tough questions that no one had the balls to confront her with in the past and she will NOT expect it and will be pissing herself, umm ing everything and turning on the tears. Karma has arrived!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I am not fond of the tactic, but it is true. In discovery lots will come out. It is indeed just a fact. Kate filed the lawsuit. If she doesn't want discovery to happen, she can withdraw it. But it's a two way street. She doesn't get to come out smelling like roses while she attacks everyone else. Everything will come out.

I think Kim Weiss is suffering from the case of, well *I* can trash TFW but hell if someone else is going to trash her much less the book I'm working on. She's been going on for months about what a pain TFW is. We can see right through her passive aggressive posts even though she never named her. But when an article, I'm guessing she's referring to Radar, claimed her book is a flop, she took serious offense. How does Weiss explain the terrible pre orders? Serious question.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

By the way am I the only one who HATES cryptic facebook posts? Why do people do this? Say what you mean and stop being such a tease or don't say anything at all.

And I hate them even more when people ask what the heck you're talking about, and you refuse to explain. I know a secret and you don't!

ncgirl said...

Wowser,

The link is http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

This is where TFW doesn't think. She just doesn't think.

Among other problems she has with the suit, if anything more comes out about the abuse, it is very highly possible that CPS will be informed again. Even if it's old information, if it's bad enough, they'll come out. Nobody wants CPS in their home and they have a knack for turning something innocuous into something heinous. The kids are well old enough now to be taken in for interviews privately and at that point who knows what kids will say. They're unpredictable. They might say everything's fine, but catch a kid on a bad day (say, a kid mad that his essay wasn't texted when HE forgot it) and old incidents can seem fresher or worse than they were.

I wouldn't want to open that can of worms again. Too much would be out of your control. Too unpredictable how it would all hash out.

pixie said...

I don't know if that other poster was simply 'projecting' or was actually inserting herself, and her child, into someone else's comment.

Not every comment posted is about *you*. Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar. *shrug*

I try to remember that when on online.

Anonymous said...

Ms Goody, if you read here I've had the shingles vaccine and did not have any reaction at all. They've lowered the age from 62 to 50 to get it so if you're over 50 it should cost you little to noting depending on your insurance since it is considered a vaccine. If you've had chicken pox you should qualify. Not medical advice, just my experience.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

. Almost all responses were supportive of Jon. One poster said that Jon's job was better than anything Kate or the Kardashians did.

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It is nice to see America gets it now. That only took 9 years!

Karma came around, finally. We always said it would didn't we!

Kate is a twit said...

Wowser said... 139
Every time I go to Gosselinbook.com, I only get the post of the chess board and all the articles written about TFW....does he have a different blog site I am missing?
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Wowser, go to http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/

This is Robert's other site--the one that ROL reported that he "wiped clean" due to the lawsuit.

gotyournumberKate said...

Wowser said...Karma has arrived!

Yay! What I've been hanging around all these years to witness!

Shelby said...

Dwindle, I posted a link to that obit yesterday or the day before.

Michelle said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 145
By the way am I the only one who HATES cryptic facebook posts? Why do people do this? Say what you mean and stop being such a tease or don't say anything at all.

And I hate them even more when people ask what the heck you're talking about, and you refuse to explain. I know a secret and you don't!
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YES! Makes me crazy. Either spill it or STFU!

Mom of autistic son said...

My 13 year old needs feedback from other kids to help him adjust his behavior. I'm glad that kids have told him when they don't like something. He has learned to adjust his behavior and has been more successful in relationships. I'm proud of him. I wonder how a child who is shielded from all that learns. I know it's tough to let people be honest with him but he will be out in the real world someday. I welcome as much feedback from other children, and adults, as possible now when he's young. As long as it's not mean, naturally.

Mel said...

Two very different perspectives on a situation today, and yet both of them are true. Compassion to both of you.

I can see having your child be nice to everyone, as much as possible. But there is a line there, too. Sounds like it was crossed.

Wowser said...

Thanks for the site update: Robert posted again...a Let's get ready to rumble" video! I love it. Go Robert!

Mel said...

Now gosslinbook has a clip up of some guy yelling, "Let's get ready to rumble!"

Sure makes ya wonder just what all's goin' on! To be a fly on that wall, I tell ya!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

YES! Makes me crazy. Either spill it or STFU!

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LOL I know right. I had a friend who recently had major surgery and was posting all about it for months leading up to it. Only cryptically, because she wanted to keep it private. I knew all about it because we're close friends, but I could see that it was driving most everyone else who didn't know on FB just CRAZY hahaha. I kept thinking gaa put them out of their misery!! And then when the surgery happened she posts like a photo of the IV with no comment. What do you expect people to do but ask a million questions?! Heh.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Can you imagine if people talked in real life like they do on FB? Something good is about to happen to me....soon. Something terrible happened to me....Feeling so anxious! Feeling so excited! Insert random cryptic quote here.

People would just hate you.

Anonymous said...

TFW may not have a problem lying under oath but I don't think others will lie for her. CSs be damned!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Depositions and discovery are going to be a time and money suck. I hope Jon isn't required to spend a moment away from his REAL JOB where he does a man's day.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

The only thing that bothers me a bit is the implication if a kid is being a pest there must be something wrong with them. Some kids are just pests. And many autistics don't pester other kids. I know a boy who is a savant and he's never been a pest a day in his life. He's gentle and sweet and just wants quiet and peacefulness at all times. I find his presence very calming. He has lots of friends granted most of them tend to be adults, but he would never dream of being a pest to others.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Ah lying under oath - has anyone explained to TFW the legal ramifications of perjury? She has no idea what lies ahead. Good job Katie Irene.

lukebandit said...

Cookbook. slop. flop.

Anonymous said...

CSs should have been CAs. That's what I get for typing on the fly.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Anonymous said... 166

CSs should have been CAs. That's what I get for typing on the fly.

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But does the fly enjoy it? ;)

TFW In NYC? said...

xxxxxxxxxxxxxx @Kateplusmy8 loved the curling iron story today at Ted Gibson! I'll have to remember that trick keep looking fabulous. Xo

chefsummer said...

I can hear KK now honestly Mr. Judge man um um um it's all Jon's and Roberts fault.

NJGal51 said...

I don't know if you Breking Bad fans have seen this but it's worth watching. If the link doesn't work just google Joking Bad. I did indeed laugh my ass off.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=duKL2dAJN6I&desktop_uri=/watch?v=duKL2dAJN6I

Enjoy.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Ha, I called it. I said she was happy happy joy joy because she's probably off glamming it up in NYC. Where's my prize?

chefsummer said...

So who's with the kids?

Shelby said...

To be fair admin, Kate always goes to Ted's salon before any interviews.

She must be in her glory right now. Smells like old times, huh Kate? LOL

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

To be fair admin, Kate always goes to Ted's salon before any interviews.

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I don't know about that. I think it's been an awful long time since she's been there. We used to get NYC sightings every 3 weeks.

chefsummer said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 171
Ha, I called it. I said she was happy happy joy joy because she's probably off glamming it up in NYC. Where's my prize?
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Um I gave it to you an image of KK in her pj's that should be enough.-(lol)

TFW In NYC? said...


‏@JasonBacke
@Kateplusmy8 you owe me a tweet! Heheh 😜


@JasonBacke
Co-Owner of @TedGibsonBeauty, @TedGibsonNYC & @TedGibsonFLA, #teacher, #Brand #Ambassador & #Artist for @LOrealProUS, obsessed with making the girls feel pretty

Shelby said...

That's because she hasn't been doing any televised interviews. YMMV

Vanessa said...

Here is my original post:
Vanessa said... 47
Then negative publicity results, and she cries bullying
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This is a lot like the anti-bullying campaigns going on in our schools. If someone is genuinely NOT liked, if that person is not your cup of tea but is in your face, trying to get you to be their friend and it's just not happening, why can that person cry "bully"?
You are NOT obligated by some grand law of nature to like and want to be with EVERYONE. You are NOT obligated to agree with what one person so as not to offend or hurt their feelings. My child was MADE to sit and have lunch with a certain "pesty" type kid. This kid didn't have many friends because they were the annoying type, sorry but it's true. In your face, would cry if things didn't go their way, everyone had to bend over for fear of a "meltdown". So they told my child to please sit with this kid during lunch and recess because nobody else would. I don't think teachers are FORCED to sit with a co-worker that they simply don't like during THEIR lunch break? Why should a kid? My child didn't get any "downtime" like the teachers did.

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The girl who I called "pesty" was indeed a pest. That tweenie age of 11-12 where the mean girl stuff starts. I'm not sure manipulation, gossiping, trying to turn friends against one another, dirty looks, always getting her way (hence my original comment "crying when she didn't get her own way) are not, in my layman's opinion, characteristics of Autism, but I could be wrong.
There are brats out there. There are coddled kids who can never do wrong. When this girl started to realize she was losing all her friends, she told her parents and they called the school crying "bully". At what point does a child get to live with the consequences of their actions? The principal told my daughter and her friends that THEY were bullying this girl because they wouldn't include her. Well YES, when you treat your friends badly, that's what happens. The principal then took my daughter aside and ASKED her if she could set an example and be her friend, and she DID. But this went on and on, having to spend her lunch with this moody, gossipy, volatile snotty kid. THAT was my point.
We have adult jerks to contend with in the world, where do they come from? Why does it always have to be something awful is going on in their lives? Maybe they've got it too good?


And I take great offence that it was implied that I am not compassionate towards special needs children. Like I said, I have TWO Down's kids in my immediate family. I know all too well what REAL bullying is.

TFW In NYC? said...

@XXXXXXXX "I'm over single process blonde," @jasonbacke tells me. #bestnewsinglamerica

‏@JasonBacke
@Glambr hahaah!!! Highlighted base color for everyone!!! Circa 1995!!! #major

Will TFW be sporting a "new" (to her) hair color on her book tour?

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 171
Ha, I called it. I said she was happy happy joy joy because she's probably off glamming it up in NYC. Where's my prize?

LOL. What would you like? Seriously tho, it's been a long time since she has sat in the Gibson chair. Think this one is on her dime, urm the kid's dime. And what would Homework Hero have done on her NYC day? Hope the kids can get their stuff to school while Mommy has her last gasp week of book tour. It really is amazing how long she has been able to drag out her dying breaths of the fame 'ho life.

NJGal51 said...

Why would she go so early if her first interview isn't for another week or so?

AnnieD said...

Kate's not listed on the events page for Chapters/Indigo.CA. She's really flying under the radar on this one. Great publicity machine there. http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/home/storelocator/
In addition, her book is on sale at 34% off!

fidosmommy said...

Her first scheduled promotional event isn't until Sept. 23, and that's the satellite radio show (from her bed??) She may have more things scheduled than have been released. Either that or she found a $10 off coupon for Ted Gibson's.

JoyinVirginia said...

I agree with NJGal. Joking Bad is a FANTASTIC Jimmy Fallon parody. Lots of fun surprises in a gem of a short film.
You WILL laugh your ass off!

JoyinVirginia said...

No spoilers!
For Big Brother fans: the film from inside the jury house was fun tonight. when it gets to the point in the season every year that there are more people in the jury house than in the BB house, I always wish we could have live feed from jury house.
I am more satisfied with final three than I thought I would be. Next show on Sunday then finale will be next Wednesday!

JoyinVirginia said...

I kinda feel sorry four the PR lady Kim. She is stuck with promoting someone who does, shall we say, less than stellar interviews that always come back to ten months of bedrest and working harder than any other mother ever did because she has eight count'em eight children. Its gonna be same old boring interview about TFMJG. She is essentially boring no matter what the discussion is supposed to be about.

Meagler said...

The way RH is implying, things are about to "rumble" in this lawsuit TFW initiated.

Her timing could possibly interfere with her reliving her glory days for the next 2 weeks.

Aw shucks....

Call Me Crazy said...

In what NJ Barnes & Noble will she make an appearance?
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The one at 7th and Broom Closet.

Shelby said...

Mommy has her last gasp week of book tour. It really is amazing how long she has been able to drag out her dying breaths of the fame 'ho life.

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I think Kate's been able to drag out her 'celebrity' for so long because she is incapable of feeling shame. Most people would bury their head under the sand when that NZ skyjump episode aired and never faced society again!

Kate don't care. ANY attention is good attention. She's never met a camera she didn't like.

chefsummer said...

I wonder if Steve is on duty for the week/press tour and if so who's paying him.

cherier1 said...

Longtime reader but I seldom post.

Prairiemom and Mary Ann - My deepest sympathies to you both.

Sillimom - I get it. I have 2 kids with ADHD. Both are doing great now, but there were years and years of pain from being rejected by their peers, some teachers as well as the parents of some of their peers. So many people assume poor parenting when the disorder is one they can't physically see.

Vanessa - I can see your perspective as well.

What I want to say is this: Life is hard and it's very very hard for some at a very early age. Please be kind. Teach your children to be kind. Never assume you know what is happening with a child or why. If they are acting out/up, there is a reason. Very few children are jerks for no reason at all. Something is going on. We all want to be accepted and belong; community is a basic human need. One we find here, btw.

One of my youngest daughter's best friends is a little person. What she endures is awful. The stares, the comments, the "jokes" at her expense.

As parents, there is nothing that will break our hearts more than seeing our child in pain. Always err on the side of kindness and the benefit of the doubt. I will never forget, and will always be grateful for, the peers and parents who did so for my children.

Come back soon silimom. I always enjoy your posts.

Vanessa said...

What I want to say is this: Life is hard and it's very very hard for some at a very early age. Please be kind. Teach your children to be kind. Never assume you know what is happening with a child or why. If they are acting out/up, there is a reason. Very few children are jerks for no reason at all. Something is going on. We all want to be accepted and belong; community is a basic human need. One we find here, btw.
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I'm not sure why I'm being "judged" as a parent who is not teaching their child to be kind???
SHE WAS BEING KIND. I don't get how this discussion has gone from me making a point about being more or less forced to be around someone you just don't like? Parents of kids who whether they "perceive" to be bullied or are being bullied go to bat for their kids, do they not? I simply went to bat FOR MY CHILD. I have every right to do so as well. I asked that she be allowed to interact with who SHE wanted to on HER LUNCH BREAK, HER FREE TIME. And you know what my daughter ended up doing? She went off into the girls change room and sat by herself reading just to get away from the drama.
She REMOVED herself from the situation. To be called a bully when there WAS NO BULLYING was the ONLY POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE.
sorry for the caps, but I feel I'm being made out to be some kind of intolerable bad parent.

Vanessa said...

Very few children are jerks for no reason at all. Something is going on. We all want to be accepted and belong; community is a basic human need. One we find here, btw.
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And to add to this point you made, how about the basic need to be heard and have your own feelings validated? Compassion is a 2 way street. Was there any discussion with the girl or the girl's parents who cried bully, on ways that SHE could improve her won behavior? NO. I guess it's who ever pulls the bully card first is the real victim. My feelings toward this is all due to my OWN experience, as another poster so kindly pointed out upthread.

localyocul said...

What I want to say is this: Life is hard and it's very very hard for some at a very early age. Please be kind. Teach your children to be kind. Never assume you know what is happening with a child or why. If they are acting out/up, there is a reason. Very few children are jerks for no reason at all. Something is going on. We all want to be accepted and belong; community is a basic human need. One we find here, btw

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Thank you, and thank you to Silimom. I agree with you both. Whether or not that child has ASD, they must be very lonely. My child struggled with social anxiety and trouble "fitting in" at times and I would have been so grateful if she had someone go out of their way to be kind to them. She now is the type to reach out to the disaffected. She is doing Special Olympics at her HS. The other day she saw a student cutting his arms with scissors in art class and intervened. She has been upset about him ever since, hoping he knows that people care.

chefsummer said...

Call Me Crazy said... 188
In what NJ Barnes & Noble will she make an appearance?
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The one at 7th and Broom Closet.
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Thank you for my laugh of the day. -)

I hope Steve will stand guard so no over zealous fans bother her while she's hiding.

Molly12 said...

JoyInVirginia:

No spoilers!
For Big Brother fans: the film from inside the jury house was fun tonight. when it gets to the point in the season every year that there are more people in the jury house than in the BB house, I always wish we could have live feed from jury house.
I am more satisfied with final three than I thought I would be. Next show on Sunday then finale will be next Wednesday!

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OT: Joy, I completely agree with you about the jury house. There needs to be more footage. At this point of the game, there is probably more action in that house than the Big Brother house. I do have a favorite of the final three so next week will be interesting but I’m ready for the season to be over.

cherier1 said...

Vanessa - My comments were not directed at you. I'm sorry if it seemed they were.

JoyinVirginia said...

Vanessa and Silimom, the conversation has been enlightening. I have found your individual stories and viewpoints very enlightening. Childhood is not fair for so many, not only those children exploited on film but also those children who have visible challenges and those children who may have non visible challenges and those children who are manipulated by others and those children who only know manipulative techniques to cope with all the challenges of growing up. And don't forget children who have material possessions but may be so over scheduled that they never really have a chance to just be a kid.
we all interpret experiences and stories and news thru our own past experiences. I happen to think its wonderful that people are so different and bring so many different experiences to interactions. Otherwise the world would be boring!

JoyinVirginia said...

OT: Molly, I am also ready for BB season to be over. It has been a very interesting discussion of racism sparked by the houseguests this summer, and fueled by the live feed watchers. There was such an uproar from the interwebs that CBS had to address it, editing the racism out of the show would not have been credible. Then when Julie Chen discussed this week on The View, her plastic surgery on her eyes early in her career, and how it did benefit her career, well that just added to the discussion. Complex topic with many facets, no easy resolution.

Dmasy said...

Vanessa and Silimom -- you were both relating experiences, told from different points of view. Vanessa, I am sure you daughter is exceptionally kind. That is why she was asked to "be a friend".

I have a personal story and an opinion. I have tried to type my strong feelings twice. Both times, I deleted.

That gives me a clue as to the passions and opinions involved.

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