Thursday, October 25, 2012

Jon and Kate's Law: PA Rep. Murt's Child Labor Bill signed into law

Thank you, Rep. Murt, for the more than two years you devoted to this important cause.
A child on reality T.V. is working, not playing.
"Remember, the kids are just playing in front of the cameras, so." Kate Gosselin, Larry King Live, August 25, 2009.

A child on reality T.V. deserves to be paid fairly for their work.

The original TLC contracts provided for payment only to Kate and Jon, not to the children. After more than three years of filming, TLC finally established a trust fund for the children, in November 2009. The Gosselin children first appeared on screen in May 2006.

A child on reality T.V. deserves to have his or her money protected from their parents and others who may seek, either intentionally or unintentionally, to misappropriate it.


A child on reality T.V. deserves to have his or her health, safety, comfort, happiness and education put before obligations to their T.V. show.


Those are just some of the reforms that Rep. Tom Murt has been working for more than two years to get Pennsylvania to understand that they need. Yesterday, Governor Tom Corbett signed House Bill 1548, which affords reality T.V. kids and regular child actors the same protections. Among the reforms, it requires trust funds be set up, a parent or guardian must be allowed within sight and sound of the children at all times (the Gosselins were filmed more than once without Kate or Jon on set), and, perhaps most importantly, requires a studio teacher on set (a licensed teacher), even on reality T.V. shows, to facilitate plenty of time for mandated schoolwork and rest. Finally, an independent set of eyes on our children who are working.

A brief explanation of the hours a kid can work, which were modeled after California's strict laws and have been a little misunderstood in the press: Babies under 6 months can be on set a maximum of 2 hours. Ages 6 months to 2 years old can be on set for four hours, but can only work on camera for two. Ages 2 to 6 can be on set 6 but work just three hours. Kids ages 6 to 9 can work 4 hours a day but are allowed to be on set for 8. Kids age 9 to 16 can be on set for 9 hours, but can only work 5. The rest of the time must be devoted to rest and schoolwork. There is a mandatory rest period of at least 12 hours between consecutive shooting days. So if the family stays up late to film a segment about fireworks until 11 p.m., the children are not permitted to start work again the next day until 11 a.m.

Should the Gosselins ever film again, Kate will find herself facing some big changes on set. Thank you, Rep. Murt! 

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chefsummer said...

Just wait till the sheep start their bashing and woe is me-(poor Kate) out cry.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Hand clapping for Rep. Murt and PA. I only wish it was called the Gosselin 8 Labor Act.

Wonder if Paige is starting her holiday shopping today? And sciatica my a$&.

Dmasy said...

Administrator, I think you should be proud of the part that you had in the passing of this bill.

I wonder if Kate is even aware of this monumental news.

Rhymes with Witch said...

I wonder if Kate is even aware of this monumental news. 3

De Nile isn't just a river in Egypt.

Thank you Rep. Murt.

Amy2 said...

Congratulations Kevin and Jodi. You did the right thing by standing up for the children, no matter what it cost you personally.

Dmasy said...

I had not seen the show that clip is taken from. What is she on? All the exaggerated enunciation and gestures. One, two, three, four. Thanks, Kate. I always need help counting up to the number 8.

Localyocul said...

If she really has sciatica her rainbows and unicorn world is about to burst. It is generally chronic, caused by compression of nerves. If she does have it it is probably due to the pounding of running. I've been amazed that she hasn't reported any knee, foot, muscle problems due to overuse. If she's lying, she's setting the stage to stop running her races all together. But she'll keep obsessively running to keep her weight down.

Kate is a twit said...

Thanks to Rep. Murt, to the PA legislators that co-sponsored the bill, to Paul Petersen, Alison Arngrim, Gloria Allred and others who testified.

And special thanks to Jodi and Kevin for standing up for the children and for standing against Kate and the TLC machine.

Localyocul said...

She didn't think ahead to bring an extra shirt? How about you didn't think ahead to give the kids some dramamine or to know which ones should stay back because they are prone to motion sickness? What a witch

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I thought you needed a doctor to diagnose sciatica. Incidentally just saw on facebook this morning one of my friends saying she's going to be the designated driver for awhile because her husband's sciatica is so bad he can't drive. It's not a joke, people are really suffering.

Oh and this is everything we've been saying about running. It can be dangerous and needs to be approved by a doctor. But would she ever mention that to her sheeple, no?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Localyocul, and, the clip doesn't show it, but how about when all of the kids are that sick you call it a day and TURN AROUND.

Oh but no, Kate had to do her fishing. She left them inside and had her fun. Then when she had had their fun, then they could leave.

But when Kate doesn't like something because her fingers are a little cold, does she stick it out because the kids are having fun? We all know the answer.

JudyK said...

Amy2 said... 5
Congratulations Kevin and Jodi. You did the right thing by standing up for the children, no matter what it cost you personally.
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Ditto to all that and especially to Paul Petersen...great admiration for that man. And thanks to Adm for this blog and for making more people aware.

Kate is a twit said...

Kate is on the "counting my blessings" kick this morning. Reminds me of song from White Christmas:

"When I'm worried and I can't sleep
I count my blessings instead of sheep"

So after a tweetie told her how inspirational her tweets were, Kate tweets:

kateplusmy8
@xxxx aww glad! Sometimes seems like rumblings to me.. But it's what my heart is feeling right this second! :)

I know she meant "ramblings", but rumblings does seem more appropriate:

Defininition of rumblings:

2.An early indication or rumor of dissatisfaction or incipient change: "there are growing rumblings of discontent".

"it's time we stop,
hey what's that sound
everybody look what's goin down"
(thanks to Buffalo Springfield)

LaLaLandNoMore said...

Thank you, Rep. Murt. It would have been great to see Jodi and Kevin at the signing. They deserve so much credit.

Admin, thank you for what you do. It's great that you tried to approach Kate on this issue. Too bad "purse boy" chased you away from his precious commodity. As a mother, protecting the children should have been front and center with Kate. Isn't happening, even now. It's all me...me...me...She needs help. It would help her kids, too if she would get it.

I've had family members with sciatica. It was diagnosed and treated by a physician. Wonder if Nurse Kate self-medicates, too? Sad, really.

Winsomeone said...

I have sciatica flare ups now and then, and "ouchy" just does not describe the amount of pain it can cause.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

Didn't someone say yesterday that this is going to take forever to sign, that government works slowly, that someone was naive in thinking this was going to be signed into law now, and that it won't happen until it's something media-worthy and only then will it get signed?

Good for PA...he moved quickly with this bill and didn't sit around on it, even though he had a period of time in which to sign it.

On another note, what is with the crying sheeple? Yesterday Paige was literally sobbing over hearing kids singing in a car. Today, this one is crying through an interview...

h3ychy
@Kateplusmy8 you are one strong and inspirational lady. Watched a 1 on 1 interview today of you and cried through about 80%. Stay strong.xx

They are a teary bunch, aren't they?

Dwindle said...

Dmasy said... 6
I had not seen the show that clip is taken from. What is she on? All the exaggerated enunciation and gestures. One, two, three, four. Thanks, Kate. I always need help counting up to the number 8.
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I had not seen it either and was thinking the same thing. So over the top and dramatic, to the point of campy. Her launguage and enunciation and facial expressions were so over the top. What a lousy actress.


And so Kate is complaining of sciatica? Guess she wont be running that upcoming race she needed someway to get out of now that her grifting source fired her ass. My my.

Later tonight she will tweet about how she was busy busy busy anyway coz a hot rockin momma of eight, 8 and have we mentioned EIGHT, just has so much to do and all moms know and hashtag the life of a mom blah blah blah and then those of us with REAL sciatica will know she's lying. Again. Yawn.

Please Be Accurate said...

Among the reforms, it requires trust funds be set up, a parent to be present on set at all times (the Gosselins were filmed more than once without Kate or Jon on set)...
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It does not require a parent to be on set. It requires a parent or parent's representative to be on set. There is nothing to prevent a parent from being out of state while their child films as long as the parent designates someone to be there.

Dwindle said...

I have had sciatica for 33 years, since my 2nd pregnancy. Your first several flare ups are usually debilitating. Did she say "ouchy"? Really? This is seriously nothing more than a word she pulled out of a dictionary, looking for an excuse about her next few races, now that CC isnt paying.

Dwindle said...

Please Be Accurate said... 18
Among the reforms, it requires trust funds be set up, a parent to be present on set at all times (the Gosselins were filmed more than once without Kate or Jon on set)...
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It does not require a parent to be on set. It requires a parent or parent's representative to be on set. There is nothing to prevent a parent from being out of state while their child films as long as the parent designates someone to be there.

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Kate being on set was part of the problem, never a solution.

AuntieAnn said...

Kate is a twit said... 8

Thanks to Rep. Murt, to the PA legislators that co-sponsored the bill, to Paul Petersen, Alison Arngrim, Gloria Allred and others who testified.

And special thanks to Jodi and Kevin for standing up for the children and for standing against Kate and the TLC machine.
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Ditto.

And apologies to the eight Gosselin children who had to endure years of WORK without a safety net.

AMD said...

Great news! So many of us here voiced our concerns to Rep. Murt at the time of the hearing. It's good to know that he followed through. Admin,the pictures you've chosen for illustration are worth a thousand words.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Please be accurate, you don't need to be rude. I'm trying to be accurate. From the draft I read I thought it said parent only. If you could post the actual portion you see that, I could fix it. I don't like the implication we're trying to mislead. Seriously?

Dwindle said...

Anonymous said... 100
Dwindle

I once indignately went up to my black lab sitting by the lake to berate him from coming in after my dogs called " intruder alert"
turns out it was a beaver and he was very non-chalant..even with

my backup 3 quivering dogs
.lol
franky
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LOL! actually, I made fun of them once they were in the house, hoping it would shame them, but it sure didnt work. It's funny, but I can tell by their bark who the Illegal Alien Intruder is: the cat next door, a regular neighborhood dog, a STRANGE dog (OMG!) or the deer. Or chipmunks, coz man oh man we seem to really hate chipmunks these days!

Franky, I really like your posts and I for one hope you keep posting. Live Long and Prosper!

anger issues kate said...

Wonderful news!

Kate being aware of anything? Geez, the woman was not even aware that another bad storm is coming her way. Remember Jon said: Kate never watches the news or reads the paper. Kate would make a very poor Talk show host.

Oh, and this gift of gab, Kate claims she has is BS. Cause, if she had the gift of gab, Kate blog at cc would have been excellant, it was garbage. Kate is so use to handing things off to others to do, that she can't do anything for her self anymore.

EM said...

I never watched Kate plus 8. Wow she got even more annoying and full of herself. She thought she was just so clever and witty. Bitch you are talking about your kids all being sick. This isn't "good tv."
Sheeple really enjoy that vomit fest?

EM said...

IS THIS LAW REALLY CALLED JON AND KATE'S LAW ?

NJGal51 said...

Kate is a twit said... 8
Thanks to Rep. Murt, to the PA legislators that co-sponsored the bill, to Paul Petersen, Alison Arngrim, Gloria Allred and others who testified.
And special thanks to Jodi and Kevin for standing up for the children and for standing against Kate and the TLC machine.
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Ditto, ditto and DITTO!

In the clip Kate said, "It was vomit fest Gosselin style - it was disgusting." No Kate, you are disgusting for letting it happen in the first place and for letting TLC continue to film when the kids started getting sick AND for not turning back.

This law's for you Kate!

Please Be Accurate said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 23
Please be accurate, you don't need to be rude. I'm trying to be accurate. From the draft I read I thought it said parent only. If you could post the actual portion you see that, I could fix it. I don't like the implication we're trying to mislead. Seriously?

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Asking for accuracy is not being rude.

(III) STATE THE LEGAL AND PROFESSIONAL NAME OF THE MINOR, THE DATE AND PLACE OF THE MINOR'S BIRTH, THE NAME AND PERMANENT ADDRESS OF A PARENT OR GUARDIAN OF THE MINOR, THE NAME OF THE MINOR'S PARENT OR REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PARENT WHO WILL ACCOMPANY THE MINOR TO REHEARSALS AND PERFORMANCES

http://legiscan.com/gaits/text/665462

Formerly Duped said...

Kate is disgusting. She was very rude and demanding to whomever was there, telling them to get buckets etc. She listed herself as last to help the kids- that I believe.

I am very happy about the bill too and congratulations for the victory to all who helped it come to fruition.It would be ironic if the bill was named or the G8.

AuntieAnn said...

‏@Kateplusmy8

DON'T LET LIFE GET THE BEST OF YOU... GIVE LIFE THE BEST YOU HAVE! :) have a great day... It's a choice! Choose wisely! :)
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She dares to speak about choosing wisely?

For the love of God, Kate.

The government had to step in and pass a bill that forces parents to make wiser choices, otherwise greedy wacko parents like her would continue to exploit their own children.

LaLaLandNoMore said...

I just don't understand any mother who would consider showing her own children vommitting on television or anywhere else. No privacy at all was given to the Gosselin children. On the other hand, what kind of people film children doing this? Guess we can all answer that question...TLC, that's who! "Poor taste", as my precious grandma would say. Interesting, Admin, how the body guard shooed you away from Kate for asking a legitimate question, but he didn't protect those children. It was and is all about Kate. So many questions will never be answered. Gets down to money in my opinion.

konspiracytheory said...

A couple of years back, I sent a brief email to Rep Murt regarding the need for protection for the Gosselin children (and any other children filming in PA). I signed the email with my real name, town and state. I received a friendly response from Rep Murt, promising to continue to look into the matter, which has always stuck with me because I don't even live in PA. Clearly just a stand-up guy - way to go, Rep Murt!

AuntieAnn said...

Formerly Duped said... 30

Kate is disgusting. She was very rude and demanding to whomever was there, telling them to get buckets etc. She listed herself as last to help the kids- that I believe.
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I wonder if any of the crew thought about throwing her overboard. It surely had to have crossed their minds.

"I can't believe I didn't think ahead..."

Well we can. We've watched you do horrible things to those kids. The list is long.

Be ashamed Kate. Be very ashamed.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

(5) A minor who is under sixteen years of age must be
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accompanied by a parent or guardian who must be within sight or
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sound of the minor at all times.

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Please Be Accurate, this is the portion I was referring to. Only a parent or guardian (not just any old rep, an actual legal guardian) can be the one on set to supervise. However, it looks like this was in the draft version and was ultimately crossed out. So you are correct.

The bill DOES say "A PARENT OR GUARDIAN OF A MINOR IS PERMITTED TO BE WITHIN SIGHT OR SOUND OF THE MINOR AT ALL TIMES."

On taking a second look, "permitted" is not the same as "required." This seems to be saying, production has no right to take the kids down to the basement and film them alone if the parent wants to be there. In any case, I will take that out to avoid confusion.

Changing your name to "Please be Accurate" and implying we're trying to mislead is rude IMO.

Tucker's Mom said...

Congratulations and thank your to Rep. Murt and all who personally came forward to provide their testimony. They should all be very proud. This is huge--the course of filming children in the state of PA is forever changed for the better.
I'd call that a good day!

My prognosis is that Kate's sciatica will resolve miraculously after she uses it as an excuse to not go to LA for the run this weekend.

readerlady said...

Thanks for that clip, Admin. An excellent example of why this law is needed. What kind of a parent goes ANYWHERE like this with small kids and not have a change of clothes? That's one thing that always struck me on the show. She claimed to be this organized supermom and NEVER brought a change, no matter where they went - the ice cream drip freak-out at Disney World, The Crayola Factory, this fishing trip. Heck, I'm not a parent and even I know better than to not bring a change of clothing. And she KNOWS that at least some of her kids are prone to motion sickness. It all comes down to that contract. I'm so glad Robert printed it, in its entirety. Seven whole sick days for the entire family -- with 8, mind you, 8 kids! -- and the contract is void if they go over.

Thanks to Rep. Murt and all the legislators who recognized the abuses being perpetrated on the G8 and were willing to take a stand.

Kevin and Jodi, you did the right thing, and one day these kids will thank you for it. God bless you for having the courage to stand up and be counted, regardless of the personal cost.

Just a reminder, we can go and light a candle to thank these courageous people.

Tucker's Mom said...

It all comes down to that contract. I'm so glad Robert printed it, in its entirety. Seven whole sick days for the entire family -- with 8, mind you, 8 kids! -- and the contract is void if they go over.
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Whoa, I have to go back and read it again. I didn't get that nuance. I was shocked that the parents could sign away and commit that all of the kids would do whatever they needed to do to perform the story arc.
I thought 'how can you commit 6 years olds like this?"

AuntieAnn said...

Tucker's Mom said... 38
Whoa, I have to go back and read it again. I didn't get that nuance. I was shocked that the parents could sign away and commit that all of the kids would do whatever they needed to do to perform the story arc.
I thought 'how can you commit 6 years olds like this?"
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Could it be because TLC was standing there with a big fat check saying oh it's just the fine print, don't bother reading it, it's all fluff and stuff....hurry up and sign here.

KathyB said...

Maybe some day these laws will be adopted on a Federal level. Honey Boo Boo isn't covered by any child protection law for filming in Georgia.

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't it be great if, as part of a Civics class leading up to the election, the Gosselin children learn of this important legislation.

bm

carezee said...

I am stunned watching that video. It was like she found joy in those children being sick. She should be ashamed of herself. What kind of a mother not only doesn't prepare for something like this but also lets her poor children be filmed being sick? She is the disgusting one.

Sweet Tart said...

rainbowsandunicorns said... 16

Didn't someone say yesterday that this is going to take forever to sign, that government works slowly, that someone was naive in thinking this was going to be signed into law now, and that it won't happen until it's something media-worthy and only then will it get signed?
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I too recall someone chortling over Admin's naivete on this particular issue.

Congratulations to Admin and the posters on this blog for keeping the light shining on this issue, and helping to put appropriate pressure on elected reps in PA. I hope that this law spreads to every single state in the U.S.!

Facts Are Important said...

KathyB said... 40
Maybe some day these laws will be adopted on a Federal level. Honey Boo Boo isn't covered by any child protection law for filming in Georgia
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http://www.dol.state.ga.us/em/cl_minors_in_entertainment.htm

A MOM said...

Had to check out if Kate or most likely her PR team if CouponCabin ads still on Kate's web page: It's gone except for some of her blogs. Wonder if Kate rereads blogs to see if they are "that bad"; to see "can she sue"..................
YES Kate they're BAD!! Maybe some classes at local high school will help you with "letters to friends/family". OOPS sorry you have neither!

LaLaLandNoMore said...

Seeing Kate giving advise to anyone to "choose wisely" is just unbelieveable. She truly has no self-awareness, none at all. Needs mental health therapy, I tell you all. She has put herself and her own children in such bad situations for what? MONEY. You're right, Kate. It's about choices. She is also continuing to grift rather than spend any of her own dollars for her own large family. No self-awareness. Doesn't care how we feel about her. She is laughing all the way to her bank and her grifted stash of goods in her basement. She doesn't give a rip about what CC CEO said to her publicly. This woman sees any publicity as attention, good or bad. Sad, really, sad. The kids will grow up and get away someday. That time period should be interesting if they talk. Watch out.

Dollar Signs said...

If more of you would concentrate on boycotting the Brands of celebrity reality stars who appear on TV you would eliminate the multi millionaires who place their lives, their families lives on TV and the fighting, cursing, using of the viewer to believe they all hate each other as they walk out on stage in beautiful custom made frocks. Insanity and who ever buys a Kardashian products is nuts. Anyone who buys a Halloween costume of HBB is crazier than the mother. You add to their pocket books. Stop feeding the multi millionaires with buying their cook books, clothing, everything. Too much of the Gosselins now concentrate on the whole reality TV Brands that make them multi millionaires. Boycott them.Make them take their kids off of TV, all of them. Hurt them where it hurts in that pocketbook.

Formerly Duped said...

Tucker's Mom @36 said..
My prognosis is that Kate's sciatica will resolve miraculously after she uses it as an excuse to not go to LA for the run this weekend
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Haha, totally agree. You don't just develop sciatic in a flash like that. My DH has it off and on.

Remona Blue said...

KK's tweet......
Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8

DON'T LET LIFE GET THE BEST OF YOU... GIVE LIFE THE BEST YOU HAVE! :) have a great day... It's a choice! Choose wisely! :)
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Reminds me of the email she sent Jon:
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''I'm sorry... I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo frustrated with you! I beg and plead and beg some more for you to do things around here that I CAN'T do... and you don't do them! It is so frustrating! Why can't you see that in order to keep our house running smoothly, you have to help with more than just the daily stuff? Everyone would win in the end!

I'd be happy so everyone else would be happy--including yourself! Don't take the lazy approach!

I am not going away so you can either do the stuff i ask or live miserably! You choose!
me''

AuntieAnn said...

Dollar Signs said... 47

If more of you would concentrate on boycotting the Brands of celebrity reality stars who appear on TV you would eliminate the multi millionaires who place their lives, their families lives on TV and the fighting, cursing, using of the viewer to believe they all hate each other as they walk out on stage in beautiful custom made frocks.
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Dollar Signs -If 'you' refers to the majority of people on this blog... you're preaching to the choir.
:o)

Anonymous said...

The many people who have contributed to the passage of this law from Rep.Murt, Kevin and Jodie , Paul Petersen a huge congrats!!

But I also want to acknowledge the many websites that never wavered in exposing Kate and TLC for the abuse of the Gosselin kids and the many posters who took the time from their personal lives to try to help the kids! Congrats to the posters of yesteryear and the present!!!

I still have concerns about some parts of the new law but that's for another day! Today is a time to celebrate !

Also noticed that Kate seems a little depressed today with her tweets! Does she think that she is still getting a new reality show with her kids?

Let's Throw Tomatoes

Where is Gosselin Give Back? said...

LaLaLandNoMore said... 46
I wouldn't be so sure Kate doesn't care how people feel about her. She has a very insecure side to her and has admitted it before. I suspect the negativity the public has for her does bother her immensely but she puts on a brave front. She will crack eventually. Something will give.

PatK said...

Let's Throw Tomatoes, I don't think Kate wants another reality show with her kids...just her own reality show. The kids would be too much trouble, and if she can get someone to fly her here, there and everywhere for filming, she'd be in seventh heaven. Remember, it's REALLY all about Kate.

KathyB said...

Facts Are Important said... 44
KathyB said... 40
Maybe some day these laws will be adopted on a Federal level. Honey Boo Boo isn't covered by any child protection law for filming in Georgia
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://www.dol.state.ga.us/em/cl_minors_in_entertainment.htm

I was referring to something June said in her interview with Dr. Drew. GA. does not require money to be set aside for the children, although June said she has done that on her own to provide for college.

Sheri said...

AuntieAnn said... 50

Dollar Signs said... 47

If more of you would concentrate on boycotting the Brands of celebrity reality stars who appear on TV you would eliminate the multi millionaires who place their lives, their families lives on TV and the fighting, cursing, using of the viewer to believe they all hate each other as they walk out on stage in beautiful custom made frocks.
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Dollar Signs -If 'you' refers to the majority of people on this blog... you're preaching to the choir.
:o)

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My exact thoughts Auntie. You beat me to it. :P

Formerly Duped said...

If Alana does get to college -that would wonderful. Still dubious source,but I hope she is off TV and June keeps that fund intact.

dee3 said...

KathyB said... 54
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Also found this info saying the same thing:

"Although some states require parents of child performers to deposit a percentage of their wages into a trust account for the child, Georgia is not one of them."

Taken from:

http://www.ibtimes.com/there-goes-honey-boo-boo-reality-tv-and-exploitation-children-794002

Facts are Important said...

KathyB said... 40...I was referring to something June said in her interview with Dr. Drew. GA. does not require money to be set aside for the children, although June said she has done that on her own to provide for college.
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No, the State of GA does not require money to be set aside. However, that was not your statement. You wrote that there are no child protection laws in the State of GA. I was providing you with information that there are, indeed, laws to protect minors in GA.

Kate is a twit said...

Gather.com has a story about the kids singing in the car and also has the video clip posted. I wonder how Kate would feel about that?

Anyway-in one of the comments someone said "Listen at 1:40. Someone (Collin) says:"Don't video tape this. This should be private!!!"

When I first listened to the tape I couldn't make out what was said, but going back and listening to it-that is exactly what was said. This was right after Kate said "Hi Shoka".

Relistening again, just before Hannah shushes Collin, it sounds more like he says "Mommy, it should be..." not "Mommy, it's a bee".

The kids probably didn't even realize that she was taping it until they saw Kate say "Hi Shoka" directly into the phone.

http://celebs.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981720884

Kate is a twit said...

In my previous post, that should be "audio" clip not "video" clip.

optimist said...

Haven't posted since the early days on GWOP, Z's and this site, but just had to come back to express my joy and gratitude that this legislation's been passed! May God Bless Jodi, Kevin, Rep. Murt, Paul Peterson and all those who spoke out for it. I'm now visualizing national legislation that will protect children in all 50 states.

Thanks to you, Admin, as well as to Z and others for providing the platforms that allowed concerned posters to keep calling for the truth. And congratulations to the posters on these sites, and especially to Robert Hoffman, for exposing the lies. Today is a great day, Kate, and I am rejoicing in it!!

Dmasy said...

For reasons not important to this post, today I pulled my refrigerator out of its cozy little alcove. Ooops!

Today I will not make comments about Kate and whatever "dirty" little secrets she might hide. (Just today...)

Tucker's Mom said...


Anyway-in one of the comments someone said "Listen at 1:40. Someone (Collin) says:"Don't video tape this. This should be private!!!"

When I first listened to the tape I couldn't make out what was said, but going back and listening to it-that is exactly what was said. This was right after Kate said "Hi Shoka".

Relistening again, just before Hannah shushes Collin, it sounds more like he says "Mommy, it should be..." not "Mommy, it's a bee".
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Very interesting and when I listened again, yes, that sounds about right. Not a stretch to hear the exchange between the kids.
It tells me that at least some of the kids are starting to realize that their every move should not be made public and when Kate whips out that camera, they know it's going public.
We KNEW at some point, some of the kids would become aware of what's going on and take control.
Heck, Jon said they were boycotting filming years back!

Formerly Duped said...

Kate is a twit said... 59

Gather.com has a story about the kids singing in the car and also has the audio clip posted
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Thanks, didn't hear that remark the first time. The kids do not seem to know the song that well..I guess Kate put them up to it as the Goss Crap Family Singers.No way was it spontaneous this time or the other time she mentioned it. Was pleased to see comments reflect her dumb attempt at singing fame for the six.

Dwindle said...

Off Topic, so everyone feel free to excercize your God given right to skim or scroll.

When I won the $40 gift card here through Admin's fun contest, and i was looking for something to do with it, I ended up using toward something connected to the USO. Since then I have kind remained active with my local USO. Through them I found this today:

http://www.firstbook.org/

It is a non profit that helps supply a book to children in need. A new book, an appropriate book, that they can keep. It is amazing. Readers, educators, philanthropists (oh and SLPs too!) check out the site. I learned through the USO that USO volunteers are helping with reading aloud to put some of the books on "tape" for disabled children.

All around just such wonderful organizations that help others. And it was my participation in this blog that helped spur me on in that direction.

PatK said...

Dmasy, Sunday we pulled out the stove and fridge for cleaning. It had been (to my best recollection) THREE years. I had no idea dust webs could form in the corners to about three feet up the walls. Dear Lord, I'll never let that chore go thatlong again!

Rhymes with Witch said...

Gather.com has a story about the kids singing in the car and also has the video clip posted. I wonder how Kate would feel about that? 59

I wonder if she sent it to them.

Dmasy said...

optimist, welcome back to celebrate!

Dwindle said...

Kate is a twit said... 59
Gather.com has a story about the kids singing in the car and also has the video clip posted. I wonder how Kate would feel about that?

Anyway-in one of the comments someone said "Listen at 1:40. Someone (Collin) says:"Don't video tape this. This should be private!!!"
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The kids just LUUUVVVVVV filming? As soon as one wants to stop, we will?

So a child says outright on a recording to keep this recording private, so what does mom of the year do? She posts it.

Sheeple will split hairs and say the child didnt want it VIDEO taped, coz all 1st graders think that an AUDIO tape released to the world is so much more private.

Those kids need a Guardian Ad Litem. #kategosselinisadangerousmother

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Whenever I try to do giveaways here people always end up giving them away to charity. Lol.

Dmasy said...

PatK, embarrassing, isn't it? OT paragraphs next....

Hubby commented that he noticed our refrigerator was making a "loud" noise. He speculated that it was a fan and that it wouldn't cost too much to replace.

I put on my Can-Do-Kate hat and looked in the trouble shooting section of the owners manual.

I followed some instructions to remove the cardboard filter panel at the bottom of the frig. Requires something not a screwdriver or fingernails to loosen some rivets. Caution: unplug appliance first.

Holy dust blanket!! I vacuumed the coils, the cords and the fan blades. Cleaned the walls and floors. Then I shouldered the refrigerator back into its little "home".

Hubby was right -- it won't cost much at all to repair and stop the rattle noise. It is gone!

This wasn't my first fix-it for today. I think I'll have a beer!

Kate is a twit said...

This kids are so used to having Kate take their pictures using her phone, he probably thought she was video taping it.

He said "it should be private"--does that mean that the children have realized that mommy is still sharing their private moments with her tweeties and fans? And of course, that doesn't mean a thing to Kate.

Jeanne said...

Kate just tweeted to someone that it's not good if your kids aren't afraid of you. She added an LOL but I think she's serious. (Sorry, it's too hard to copy tweets on an iPad.) Nice mother. Not.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Re: Child Labor Bill

Thank you God for giving all the good people involved the strength & resilience to see this bill go through.

Amen.

Kate Gosselin should hang her head in shame.

The fact that a bill had to be created to protect her own children from their mother's greed, & idiocy (to me) speaks volumns.





Tucker's Mom said...

He said "it should be private"--does that mean that the children have realized that mommy is still sharing their private moments with her tweeties and fans? And of course, that doesn't mean a thing to Kate.
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In a way, I am hopeful and encouraged because it sounds as if someone, somewhere along the way has/is teaching the kids that their "normal" was NOT NORMAL.
Kate can say it's normal all she wants, but at some point, she won't be able to sell that to the kids anymore. They will begin to become aware that people don't poop/pee/vomit for public consumption. Even happy, wonderful moments are private. You can actually have secrets and choose when and what you want to share!!
The children are reclaiming their childhoods and privacy and my bet is that it's Jon and the kids' interactions in his world that are teaching them that.
Oh, a trip to get ice cream and no crew or paps?
Oh, a cook out/bbq and no crew, camera, booms?
Oh, a birthday celebration and no filming?
Hmmm.....I can hear the gears turning in their cute, smart little heads ;-)

Improbable Dreams said...

Jeanne said... 73
Kate just tweeted to someone that it's not good if your kids aren't afraid of you. She added an LOL but I think she's serious. (Sorry, it's too hard to copy tweets on an iPad.) Nice mother. Not.
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I don't see that on her Twitter feed.

KathyB said...

Facts Are Important 54, Sorry, my fingers didn't follow through with the thoughts in my head. Thanks for giving the correct information. I'll be more thorough with my thoughts next time.

PatK said...

Ooops, Dmasy. That's one thing I DIDN'T do...remove the cardboard thingy and vac the coils. (I DID vac the outside of the cardboard thingy itself, though.) Oh, well. Next time. LOL

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Vomit-fest Gosselin style?
How positively beastly. Those poor kids really had no one protecting their rights back then.

And to top it off, Kate thought that taping her children throwing up would be entertaining?

[shuddering]

If Kate was the sick one, that ship would have been turned around so fast.

I'm so happy that shitty show was cancelled.

P.S. Is Kate really running this weekend in LA?
Hurricane Sandy is heading up the eastcoast. Shouldn't "mother of the year" be home with her children?

Scratch that. The kids are safer with their dad.

Tucker's Mom said...

If you're a big newer to this cause and this wonderful website, you should know of another brave woman who took a stance against Kate filming her kids far earlier than most. This woman is Nina Frye who hosts the radio show, "Living the Dream Mom".
http://toginet.com/shows/livingthedreammom
Nina was a huge supporter of Kate during and after J+K+8 and I believe even up until K+8, but she had a change of heart, went public on her radio show, and was met with great backlash from Kate's staunch supporters. I'm sure she lost a number of her listeners, but she did a couple shows about why she does not support Kate filming the kids, earning a living off the kids and exposing the kids' pain about the divorce, and then moved on.
So, here's to you, Nina Frye. I hope she learns of Rep. Murt's success in pushing through this law that protects children in reality tv.

Formerly Duped said...

Tucker's Mom said... 80

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Isn't Nina the lady who gave Kate T shirts with Mom sayings for the show?I remember reading in Polly's book that she was interviewing Kate for the radio show and Kate was a cold fish, gave one word replies and gave only a fleeting remark about the T's.She was rude and not cooperating. Nina I think changed her mind about Kate then and there.IIRC?

Dmasy said...

PatK -- just wait until you hear the rattling noise...no worries till then, right?

dee3 said...

Greetings to all other east coasters~

Please make sure you have operating flashlights, batteries, candles, etc.
This hurricane Sandy's track is looking really ominous for the entire east coast.
Keeping my fingers crossed it changes track and goes out to sea soon.

Tucker's Mom said...

Isn't Nina the lady who gave Kate T shirts with Mom sayings for the show?
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Yes, and Kate was photographed in the T shirts. I don't recall Kate's interview with Nina but I do remember being aware that at some point later, Nina took a stance on her change of heart in not supporting Kate's filming the kids anymore.
The tide (beyond folks like us here and other internet communities and news outlets) was far from turning on Kate, so it was a brave action to take so publicly, on the airwaves, knowing the shitstorm she'd face from the likes of her supporters and owners of fan blogs.

butterfly said...

That bill is great news- so glad to see it passed.
So now the sheeple have to deal with the book being re-released, Kate being fired and this bill- oh the horror!!! :D

I am wondering about Teen Mom (that show on MTV- I think that is the name)- I dont what state, or states, it is filmed in- do they set aside money for the infants on that show? I dont trust those crazy, fame-whoring teens for one second to do what's financially right for their babies. Who's looking out for them? Has this ever been brought up?
I feel like we should have a party- we have soooooooo much to celebrate!!!!!!!! (8 exclamations points)

Wowser said...

Interesting in watching the above videos..the 7th grade birthday party planning...Kate went nuts buying ALL kinds of crap for that party when it was on the TLC dime! Amazing how quickly everything changed!

Tucker's Mom said...

dee3 said... 83
Greetings to all other east coasters~
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They're calling it "Frankenstorm" here.
I thought by today, the forecast would be heading away from the east coast, but the news is getting more tenuous by the hour.
I'll be sure to round up all my batteries, lights and candles. I'll have DH check the gas level in the generator and give it a quick start just to be sure it's firing up right away!

Tucker's Mom said...

Wowser said... 86
Interesting in watching the above videos..the 7th grade birthday party planning...Kate went nuts buying ALL kinds of crap for that party when it was on the TLC dime! Amazing how quickly everything changed!
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OMG, the footage from Party City and PetSmart was like she won a contest and could fill a cart with whatever she wanted. Not one price was checked. Yeah, that's what we all do so you know, we can all relate.
Not.

Jane said...

Tucker's Mom said... 87
dee3 said... 83
Greetings to all other east coasters~
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They're calling it "Frankenstorm" here.
I thought by today, the forecast would be heading away from the east coast, but the news is getting more tenuous by the hour.

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We must be in the same area. Got in a little while ago and heard on the car radio the news about 'Frankenstorm." We finally finished repairing a fence taken down by the last storm...sheesh!

Mel said...

He said "it should be private"--does that mean that the children have realized that mommy is still sharing their private moments with her tweeties and fans?

For which Kate will heartily and loudly blame Jon.

Jeanne said...

Improbable Dreams: Sorry. I was working from memory and didn't say it right. A mom tweeted to Kate that her kids aren't afraid of her and added a link to a pic or video. Kate said that's not a good sign. Then added the LOL. I think the mom thought it was a fun thing that they weren't afraid but Kate didn't get it. I read the book and she really seems to believe the only way to be in charge is to instill fear in her subjects.

Jane said...

Kate is a twit said... 59

The kids probably didn't even realize that she was taping it until they saw Kate say "Hi Shoka" directly into the phone

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I read elsewhere that, at the end of the tape, one of the children says something like 'mommy, please don't tape it'. I haven't listened to the tape. Anyone know if this is correct?

localyocul said...

dee3 said... 83
Greetings to all other east coasters~

Please make sure you have operating flashlights, batteries, candles, etc.
This hurricane Sandy's track is looking really ominous for the entire east coast.
Keeping my fingers crossed it changes track and goes out to sea soon.

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AND, if it hits the cold front there may be snow. Hope Kate's trees survive.

Formerly Duped said...

Local: lol, you mean TREE.

optimist said...

Dmasy 68,

Thank you so much! It really feels like a party!

Btw, I'm still a regular reader here, if not a poster. I'm rolling my eyes and shaking my head at the fly-bys right along with you. And I've learned so much from all of you. Thank you. :)

SusieCincinnati said...

Tomatoes said...The many people who have contributed to the passage of this law from Rep.Murt, Kevin and Jodie , Paul Petersen a huge congrats!!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I may be wrong, but didn't you post yesterday that this was a horrible bill and you hated it, but hadn't read it? What changed your mind? No snark here, just curious.

Winsomeone said...

Nothing has ever been private in those kids lives. I think Kate has threatened them with bodily harm if they discuss the condition or whereabouts of Shoka. I think that is what Collin was referring to when he said she shouldn't tape that, that that was private. It's what she has been drumming into them for weeks and weeks now..don't talk about the dog, or even mention him to anyone.

She's come undone said...

Sciatica is really bad. Several years ago I had it and the pain was excruciating. It runs down your leg and freezes you in place. There is no way to be up and about doing normal things. I had to go in the hospital and as you lay on this table on your tummy the Dr. Scans to find the exact spot. He inserts a large needle directly into your spine and he said if it was being done correctly I would feel a burning that should go straight to the place on my leg where the pain was. I thought I would pass out it hurt so bad. But afterwards the pain was gone. It worked! So either she is lying, big surprise, or just trying for some sympathy because no way on Gods green earth could she be running with sciatica!!

butterfly said...

I run and I have sciatica. Sitting still and not being active makes it worse. My doc gave me some stretches to help and I do yoga. Sitting all day at work and the one position I favor to sleep in most were the culprit for the flare up :(

Dwindle said...

dee3 said... 83
Greetings to all other east coasters~

Please make sure you have operating flashlights, batteries, candles, etc.
This hurricane Sandy's track is looking really ominous for the entire east coast.
Keeping my fingers crossed it changes track and goes out to sea soon.
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I am inland in Northeast Ohio and they say we will get some of the rain and wind, but nothing like they are predicting for the east coast. However, I am kind of battening down the hatches a bit too. What are hatches and how does one batten, I have always wondered... And why are we to batten down instead of up? AND DID NOT MOMMY DEAREST HEAR SON SAY DONT TAPE THIS, IT'S PRIVATE!??! What say you sheeple, about that?

chefsummer said...

Kate is a twit said... 59

Now that you mention this.

I think one of the kids told him to shut up when he said that.

Dwindle said...

butterfly said... 85
That bill is great news- so glad to see it passed.
So now the sheeple have to deal with the book being re-released, Kate being fired and this bill- oh the horror!!! :D
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It's all Admin's fault. No wait, it's my fault. No wait, it this blog's fault. No wait, it's Jon's fault. No wait, it Rep Murt's fault...

Dontcha know, WE made Kate the wretched, nasty, rude, demanding, self entitled Diva that she thinks she is and that is why no one can stand being around her and companies keep firing her plastic butt. WE made Kate beat her infants with a spoon, whip them severely (her words), lift them by their hair, and lock them in cribs with no toys or anything to do, for hours and hours on end.

Or maybe it's all Paul Petersen's fault, as he is trying to promote himself. You know, if only the Pope would learn how to ride Kate's coatails to the world of reality TV and tabloid rags; he could make a little name for himself that way!

butterfly said...
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fidosmommy said...

There are degrees of sciatica. I've had the kind that puts you to bed with indescribable pain of red hot pokers (both legs at once) and the kind that makes your legs go numb but still very sensitive to touch (I know that makes no sense, but it's true.) Some people only hurt when they move. I hurt 24/7 with mine. I had it back in my 20's, but I remember the pain like it was yesterday. "Ouchy"? That doesn't
begin to describe what I had. I hope hers (IF she has it) is only "ouchy" and tolerable.

The ONLY position I could endure was flat on my stomach. Sitting was impossible, lying down on my back was impossible, standing was impossible.
Problem was, lying on your stomach is the worst
position to be in when you have sciatica. Or at least that's what the doctor said. It causes a worse pinching of the nerve somehow.

In other words, I doubt Kate will be running any races IF she has sciatica. She would be a fool to even try. IF she has sciatica, she needs to be moving very gently, probably in the direction of a medical office.

Dwindle said...

<---------- This is for you Dmasy! You rock! You inspire! You are a rockin' inspiration! I cant believe we get to live under the same sunset together! I picture us, hand in hand, together with your clean fridg, jess us gurls, giggling away, our little secrets. Forever together! Gazin' into each others eyes...

Oh yuck. I dont know how Milo pulls this crap out of her underwear.

Good Job on you, Dmasy! You enjoy that beer, you earned it today!

Kate is a twit said...

Funny thing--after Kate tweeted about having sciatica, I don't think one person tweeted her to tell her to feel better. It's like they totally ignored it. Maybe they don't believe her either.

Dwindle said...

butterfly said... 103
Dwindle,
You are funny! Hatches are the doorways between compartments on ships- they are water tight. We batten down the hatches cuz, IIRC, it's the direction we turn the thingies (aka the battens) on hatches to lock them shut which creates the water tight seal.
Go navy!
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butterfly, thank you! Always good to be educated by a trained and skilled professional on these things!

butterfly said...

In any case Dwindle, we batten down the hatches (and other things)so things are nice and safe during rough seas. Otherwise the ship would be a mess and it would be a dangerous place w/items flying about and the ship being tossed about in heavy seas- not good a mix, LOL

fidosmommy said...

To follow up a bit on Butterfly's thoughts, one of the reasons a person gets sciatica is from weak abdominal muscles.

I got my sciatica from falling off a ladder and landing on both feet. Popped a couple of discs
right out of their homes. My doctor told me to walk - start out walking 5 feet if that was all I could do, but do it, and increase the distance each day. He also gave me some exercises to do for ab strengthening. Within a few months I was walking several miles a day, but the pain was still there if I wasn't very careful.

localyocul said...

fidosmommy said... 109

To follow up a bit on Butterfly's thoughts, one of the reasons a person gets sciatica is from weak abdominal muscles.

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Maybe her tummy tuck is coming undone. Now THAT would be karma.

butterfly said...

fidosmommy said... 104

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Ouch, that sounds bad. My case was very mild in comparison. Laying straight is actually what helps,, and being curled up is what made it hurt. I had to learn to stretch out- not my usual position- so uncomfortable for me. If kate has a mild case, she'll be able to run- but like many of you I think it's excuse to not be in the race. She should have picked Plantar Fascitiis or shin splints instead- far more believable- although I run w/ PF, too- not easy but I do it.

Formerly Duped said...
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butterfly said...

Formerly,
LOL!! Um, that was waaaaaay back in the day of the wooden ship navy :) That's the origin of the expression. Awesome memory and great to know they teach that in school.
We still batten down the hatches in our modern, iron-hulled ships.

Tamara said...

Readerlady said...What kind of a parent goes ANYWHERE like this with small kids and not have a change of clothes? That's one thing that always struck me on the show. She claimed to be this organized supermom and NEVER brought a change, no matter where they went - the ice cream drip freak-out at Disney World, The Crayola Factory, this fishing trip. Heck, I'm not a parent and even I know better than to not bring a change of clothing.
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I KNOW! The second or third episode I ever watched was one where they went to a NICU reunion and Khate was freaking out on Jon because he dared to suggest the kids wear play shoes instead of nice ones because there would be tons of mud. Well, they wore the nice ones and guess what? They got so muddy Khate was complaining they were ruined (foreshadowing?) and would have to be thrown out. She was NEVER prepared. Heck, even in her own house she required hundreds of post-its and little signs to get through the day. Tons of editing and unseen help and she is still a total basketcase over tiny problems in every episode.

PatK said...

Dwindle said... 100
dee3 said... 83
Greetings to all other east coasters~

Please make sure you have operating flashlights, batteries, candles, etc.
This hurricane Sandy's track is looking really ominous for the entire east coast.
Keeping my fingers crossed it changes track and goes out to sea soon.
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I am inland in Northeast Ohio and they say we will get some of the rain and wind, but nothing like they are predicting for the east coast. However, I am kind of battening down the hatches a bit too.



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Dwindle, I have prepared for rain/wind we MAY get from this...today was the day I took out the screens and put in the storm windows.

Well, it was time to do it anyway, but now I'm prepared for hurricane remnants and/or winter.
(Just watch, now it will hike back into the 70s for a spell in two weeks.)

Tamara said...

To bad the Gosselins Law can be retroactive for the kids it was named after.

Dmasy said...

I learn so much here. I knew nothing about sciatica. Sorry for all of you that suffer from it. Hope you get some relief or some remission.

Dwindle -- I think we have many "Rosie the Riveter" ladies here. Kate -- not so much! Thanks for the accolades.

Formerly Duped said...

butterfly: That's why I removed my comment, lol, Thought I'd better check...they did study all these parts of ships that are ancient terms now..not sure why!!

butterfly said...

fidosmommy said... 109
To follow up a bit on Butterfly's thoughts, one of the reasons a person gets sciatica is from weak abdominal muscles.
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Seriously?? Ok, I'll be doing sit-ups or planks tonight- :) I did not know that.

Hey east coasters and floridians- stay safe.

dee3 said...

I keep checking the weather stations, etc.

For the NJ area and surrounding states:
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"At a minimum, high surf, dangerous rip currents and coastal erosion are likely for a significant portion of the U.S. East Coast," said weather.com meteorologist Nick Wiltgen.

The potential exists for a major coastal storm with heavy rain, high winds, coastal flooding and beach erosion.

Forecasters say it all depends on the track of the storm and how Sandy interacts with a low pressure system approaching the coast.

"In the worst-case scenarios, some part of the Mid-Atlantic and/or Northeast would also see dangerous storm-surge flooding, widespread tree and power line damage from high winds, along with areas of very heavy rainfall," said Wiltgen."
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We've had a tendency here in the middle Atlantic states and the Northeast to assume these coastal hurricanes will turn east and blow out to sea.....because that's what they seem to do so often....and it's made us rather complacent. Owner of a little store I just left about an hour ago hadn't even heard of Hurricane Sandy.

In fact, I've lived in the region all my life and almost every huge snowstorm we've had came out of nowhere...totally unpredicted....whereas we'll get these dire predictions of huge snowstorms and they turn out to be dustings. It's kind of a joke where I live.....if they predict a dusting, we expect a biggie and vice-versa.

I'm sure folks in FLA and the Gulf Coast, for example, take ALL hurricanes equally seriously.

But this is supposed to be some strange "hybrid" with possible "snow (?) involved......and it's been fairly warm here this week...so hard to imagine snow.

You always need to be prepared...you just NEVER know.
And warnings of high winds always scare me. We had one of those derecho-type storms in the early summer this year and literally ripped trees out all over our neighborhood (and knocked the power out for almost 2 days....and blocked us in with huge downed trees blocking roads).

Tucker's Mom said...

Sciatica is best described as a catch-all term for a range of symptoms that can vary in intensity and location, from the low back, down the buttocks and further to the foot, on one side or both sides. Numbness, pain, loss of reflex and decreased strength can all be symptoms. Bowel and bladder problems are seen in really bad cases.
It does not describe a diagnosis and the causes can range from discogenic to arthritis to muscular tightness/spasm (tumor, arteriol anomolies and others can be zebras and are unlikely). When the pain goes past the knee, nerve compression is highly suspected. Above that, it's a bit of a crap shoot as to what exactly is causing the pain.
All of your accounts are what is seen with the general term of sciatica/low back pain, and your solutions all work--it just depends on the individual and what their own etiology is.
As for Kate, I still say her recovery will be as miraculous as her getting so many babies with so few follicles.
Yes, Kate will de-sciatica.

rainbowsandunicorns said...


Maybe her tummy tuck is coming undone. Now THAT would be karma.

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Maybe she's too heavy in the front. She needs to find another bra...one that isn't so "good."

LaLaLandNoMore said...

I believe that as long as Kate has a ton of money, she doesn't care what we think. She has no self-awareness either. Flying by the seat of her pants. She will do anything she needs to do to never dip too far into her own money. I realize Kate has said that she is insecure, but I don't see it so much. She is arrogant and is getting and taking some bad advise. Needs mental health therapy in the worst way if not for herself, for her kids.

dee3 said...

Tucker's Mom said... 121
Sciatica is best described as a catch-all term for a range of symptoms that can vary in intensity and location, from the low back, down the buttocks and further to the foot, on one side or both sides.
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For some reason, your comment made me start chuckling, remembering some of the old-time "diagnoses".....like lumbago, scrofula, dropsy, grippe, ague, apoplexy, etc. My dad always referred to his "lumbago acting up" whenever his low back hurt and I think he'd have called it "lumbago" no matter what had been causing it.....and they both often called the flu, the "grippe".

Hehe.....I'd always thought scrofula sounded like some horrible-looking scaly condition of the....well, male privates...to be PC.

readerlady said...

Dwindle 100 -- Hatches are the openings between decks on a boat. Battening them down means to make them secure. Originally it meant covering them with a tarp and securing it. Basically, it means to prepare for trouble. (Told you I came from a Naval family. I'm not a sailor, but my dad made sure I was well-versed in the lingo).

Is something funny going on with blogger again, or are we just being uncharacteristically quiet this evening. It's been more than an hour since someone has posted. That normally only happens in the wee sma's.

We're supposed to get some of that storm this w/e, too. Not that much in the way of wind and rain, but some major temperature changes. It got up to 81 today, and is supposed to go down to 29 Sunday morning. Typical Ohio weather, LOL!

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

LaLaLandNoMore said... 123
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I completely agree. She just does not/will not get it, as she really has very little offer at this point.

Why is she still allowed to post pictures, songs and news of the kids on her twitter/blog, when she states Steve was hired to "protect the kids," yet clearly she preserves no privacy or protection for them. Only for herself.

Tucker's Mom said...

.and they both often called the flu, the "grippe".
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Yes! That was my mom's generation. Her cousin once drew this wonderful picture of my mom as a child and wrote that she "can't play today as she has the grip"
Too funny.
Although, the term sciatica is still current.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 Well last yr at this time U had freak snow storm...now U have hurricane comin!! Hope ur prepared! #CrazyWeather. :) Be safe!

@Paige_Kate8fan: @MiloandJack @kateplusmy8 yea! I wonder how her trees grew back?

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UMMMM. This one's multiple choice.

A. It's a miracle.
B. They spontaneously resprouted.
C. The Green Giant put new grown ones in.
D. Kate lied.

Lynn said...

Hey Paige: Wake up! Kate lied! her trees lining the driveway were never destroyed. She lost ONE tree in the front yard. Big deal. Get a grip!

readerlady said...

That's funny. When I posted my previous comment, a bunch more popped up, including your explanation of batten down the hatches, Butterfly. So -- sorry for stepping on your toes. Although we had more or less the same answer (Great minds, and all that, LOL).

I had one episode of sciatica, about 10 years ago, and I hope never to repeat it again in my lifetime. I literally could not walk for 2 days, because my leg would buckle under me. I had to crawl to get to the bathroom. My cats thought it was a new game for them. Definitely more than OUCHY! I'm with the rest of you. I think KK's just coming up with an excuse not to run this w/e.

Tamara said...

LaLaLandNoMore said... 123
I believe that as long as Kate has a ton of money, she doesn't care what we think.
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Not even then will she care. In an odd way her thinking does make sense when compared to her past behaviour. She's treated nearly everyone like crap for years and yet still got all she wanted. Kind of the opposite of the definition of insanity.

dee3 said...

Gosselin8ComeFirst said... 126
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I'm not a member of any of the social media sites and am curious....do celebrities often tweet links to little pics of their families? Children?
I know many people post pics/photos of their families and children on Facebook, etc......but do celebrities do that too on these social media sites? How common is it for celebrities to discuss or post photos of their kids where all can see them?
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readerlady said... 125

I'm having a bit of a problem too....having comments disappear before I even get to post/send/publish them. This message with the blogger logo shows up saying something referring to "editing"....something that sounds like the comment was lost due to editing being done simultaneously on more than one comment being published at the same time as mine (?). This happened a few times yesterday, too, I think.

I'm trying to remember to copy now...before I hit "publish".

I don't know....maybe I'm having "fond" but totally not corroborated by reality memories (incorrect selective memory) of autumn days being mostly clear, chilly, crisp, etc. years ago...and don't remember such extremes in temperature...going back and forth...this time of year. The insects and trees must get confused with these extremes. Feels like it's swinging from really chilly to quite warm every 2-3 days lately.
And it's getting on my nerves....I want these stink-bugs to quit showing back up every few days.

Tamara said...

I'm half surprised Khate hasn't said all of her girls want to be her for Hallloween.

fidosmommy said...

Butterfly, I have no idea what your physical condition is, so I'm just throwing this out there...straight legged sit-ups and leg lifts are not recommended for people with any kind of back problem. Knees bent ALWAYS, best to bring knees to chest than to bring chest to knees.
That's what I was told, anyway.

Enjoy the abs exercising. Oh wait.... do you have the AbChamp, as shown to us by Kate Gosselin in the infomercial? Well, write her, quick! She might send you a free one! HA.

Call Me Crazy said...

Virginia Pen Mom said... 128

@Paige_Kate8fan: @MiloandJack @kateplusmy8 yea! I wonder how her trees grew back?

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UMMMM. This one's multiple choice.

A. It's a miracle.
B. They spontaneously resprouted.
C. The Green Giant put new grown ones in.
D. Kate lied.
_______________________

Ooh, ooh, ooh! Pick me! Pick me! Can you see me waving my hand wildly??!!!

I choose . . . um . . . "D"!!!

Do I get a gift card prize? Target, please!

Tucker's Mom said...

The funny thing about that piece of crap AbChamp that Kate endorsed is that not only has she never mentioned using it at home (or every thanking @abchamp via twitter), but she's said she doesn't do any other type training.
So Kate, use that AbChamp for your "sciatica'.
Oh? What's that? You sold it at the consignment shop.
Ah, too bad.

Easy Costume said...

Bad hair, wooden spoon, C&M could wear the little girl's clothes. Nasty look on face.

Ex Nurse said...

Today is a time to celebrate that, at least in one more state, children's childhoods can't be sold for Juicy Juice, trips or a millionaire lifestyle. In case there would be any doubt in any of the kids' minds, here is the proof that they were victims of neglect, abuse and exploitation.

Admin--do you have an opinion on whether this law will have an impact on future lawsuits the kids might bring against TLC, Jon and Kate? Since the law was passed, does this give grounds because it is clearly the opinion of the state that the TOC contracts did not provide adequate protection for the children. Or, might it hurt their chances because it establishes a timeline for when their activity became illegal?   SInce it would be a civil suit, is there a lowe threshold to prove that their parents were negligent in signing away their rights than required for a criminal prosecution?

By the way, I just googled news for Kate Gosselin for the past week.  Thee were ten entries. Eight of them contained at least one of these words--porn, nude, naked, Vivid Entetainment. One was about being fired. One was a chirpy gather article about a bright future, fun project.

Over In Kate's County said...

Hey Paige: Wake up! Kate lied! her trees lining the driveway were never destroyed. She lost ONE tree in the front yard. Big deal. Get a grip!

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Forecasters are saying that the last time they've seen anything like this hurricane in this area was in 1991 (The Perfect Storm, the movie of the sinking of the Andrea Gail in Goucester, Massachusetts). This one could be worse. TWC guy just said they have never seen a storm of this magnitude move in this direction with so much power.

I hope Kate has prepared her tweeties to be on stand-by, sustaining her and telling her how to recharge her phone, making sure she has food and bottled water. We know that she lost all of her trees in the driveway last year, so she shouldn't have to worry about those.

Does Kate even know that there is a hurricane headed this way?

Seriously, though...everyone stay safe. I'm headed for the beach tomorrow to make sure that the hatches there are all battened down!

Dwindle said...

@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 Well last yr at this time U had freak snow storm...now U have hurricane comin!! Hope ur prepared! #CrazyWeather. :) Be safe

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OMG, I cant laugh hard enough at this!

"U have hurricane comin!!"

Not *A* hurricane, not *THEE* Hurricane, just Hurricane and it's a-comin' dontchaknow! Round up da cattle, cover da well, head on down to da dirt cellar and light up da oil lamp, Hank! Hurricane a-comin and it's headin' right for Kay-yate!

Dwindle said...

Over In Kate's County said... 139
Hey Paige: Wake up! Kate lied! her trees lining the driveway were never destroyed. She lost ONE tree in the front yard. Big deal. Get a grip!

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Forecasters are saying that the last time they've seen anything like this hurricane in this area was in 1991 (The Perfect Storm, the movie of the sinking of the Andrea Gail in Goucester, Massachusetts). This one could be worse. TWC guy just said they have never seen a storm of this magnitude move in this direction with so much power.

I hope Kate has prepared her tweeties to be on stand-by, sustaining her and telling her how to recharge her phone, making sure she has food and bottled water. We know that she lost all of her trees in the driveway last year, so she shouldn't have to worry about those.

Does Kate even know that there is a hurricane headed this way?

Seriously, though...everyone stay safe. I'm headed for the beach tomorrow to make sure that the hatches there are all battened down!

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I am still all a-giggle from Milo's twit. So I dont mean to sound glib, but I will head on out for toilet paper and wine. I can handle anything then.

wayward said...

Amen to the bill passing!

Kate, it is absolutely reprehensible that our state had to exert it's limited resources to pass a bill to keep your exploitation of your children from happening again. You suck and you're a horrible mother.

Hubby has had sciatica since a back injury 6 years ago. He had surgery, which alleviated the back pain, but the sciatica stayed.

When it flares up, it's more than ouchy. It's more like &%$#!!**#$@%*!@#$$$(($! wayward! call the *&&%$^^#*$ chiropractor!

I agree with the rest of the gang, Kate is no longer getting a free ride to LA this weekend, so she googled herself a back ailment. Just like she googled the flag cake. Problem with this ailment is that it is usually a companion to another injury. She is a loser of the highest degree. Her next book should be a manual on how to be the biggest loser who ever walked the earth. She's an expert.

SusieCincinnati said...

miloandjack
@msgoody2shoes21 @steelergirl1014 @fostermom62 @Kateplusmy8 Kate would never even on her worst day throw her PRIVATE PERSONAL diary away!
^^^
^^^

Why not? She threw her children's privacy away. Why would throwing away a diary be any different?

Kate has "worst days?" I thought Kate was a ray of sunshine every day, always positive, chipper and full of good cheer, thanks to this Milo person.

Jane said...

kateplusmy8
...nothing like kids in bed, and me drinking a glass of wine while paying bills...it's giving me a head ache so, so much for that... :)

Nothing like a little wine to treat that nasty sciatica!

All the kids are in bed at 8 pm? Are the bills giving her a headache - guess she's grifting for $$$

fidosmommy said...

Isn't one of our (sadly, former) posters from the Bahamas? I don't remember names well, but we had a regular from there. I just heard that Hurricane Sandy is raring up over there.

Prayers for safety for all involved!

Formerly Duped said...

someone tweeted to Kate
"Are you ok? I stopped Cpn Cabin. IMO, they're loss... " So intelligent are these sheeple.

JudyK said...

Tucker's Mom said... 121

Yes, Kate will de-sciatica.
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But, of course. One of the funniest things I've ever read!

Anonymous said...

Dwindle . . . Thanks for making me laugh again :)

Marie

Just guessin' said...

Kate speak, if the kids are all in bed at 8, they're probably at their dad's and she's home alone with her sciatca. The drinking wine is the true part.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Yahoo!! The bill was signed into law! What a legacy you have in PA legislature, Kate!

Thank you, Admin, for explaining the details of the 48 hour week. I still don't like it because I don't think children should be required to be on the set that long, but at least it's a start.

I haven't read all of the comments yet, but I did look at the video clip posted at the top of the thread. It made my blood boil. How could any mother be so uncaring? There she is in her low cut top with her children sick and vomiting, yet she would not tell them to turn the boat around and go back to shore. However, we now from Robert's book, that they may have not been allowed to interrupt the filming, even for illness. However, Kate should have definitely said hey, this will be one of our 7 sick days. The cruel b*#$%!!

butterfly said...

Readerlady,
You didnt step on my toes- I say the more answers, and the more explanations, the better :)

Fidosmommy,
we never do straight leg sit-ups, always knees bent! My physical condition is mostly pretty good- I hope, since I am active duty, LOL!! I do get migraines, but I hate talking about it. It's the bane (sp?) of my existence. Anyway, Yes- I should get the Ab-champ , wonder if it even still for sale?

Paige is hilarious- she called out Kate- did she not realize that? High five Paige!

Where is Gosselin Give Back? said...

When Kate says she needs a bodyguard to protect the kids, what she is actually saying is that Steve protects her from grave harm. Therefore, her kids can continue to have her as a mother. Sooooo, he is protecting her kids by protecting her. Kate-Speak.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Admin--do you have an opinion on whether this law will have an impact on future lawsuits the kids might bring against TLC, Jon and Kate? Since the law was passed, does this give grounds because it is clearly the opinion of the state that the TOC contracts did not provide adequate protection for the children. Or, might it hurt their chances because it establishes a timeline for when their activity became illegal? SInce it would be a civil suit, is there a lowe threshold to prove that their parents were negligent in signing away their rights than required for a criminal prosecution?

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This law isn't retroactive, but I think any good lawyer could figure out some way these kids can someday sue PA, TLC and/or the state of PA.

Whether it will work I don't know but there are tons of issues I see that might spark a lawsuit someday.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

To all of you on the east coast, please take care and I will pray for the safety of all of you. God bless.

Ingrid said...

Dwindle said... 140

@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 Well last yr at this time U had freak snow storm...now U have hurricane comin!! Hope ur prepared! #CrazyWeather. :) Be safe

********************

OMG, I cant laugh hard enough at this!

"U have hurricane comin!!"

Not *A* hurricane, not *THEE* Hurricane, just Hurricane and it's a-comin' dontchaknow! Round up da cattle, cover da well, head on down to da dirt cellar and light up da oil lamp, Hank! Hurricane a-comin and it's headin' right for Kay-yate!
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Now ya gots me ta laffin too! Tears arunnin down my dadburn cheeks! Weeee doggies that wuz a knee slapper!

fidosmommy said...

Butterfly, I meant the physical condition of your back. Sorry I wasn't clear. Of course you are fit, able to run, lift, tunnel, climb and probably swim too.

Gotta love our fine military. What they do for us is astounding. Keep up the good work, please. We don't know where we'd be without you.

RE: AbChamp. The ad is still on the internet, but darned if I've ever seen it on TV. I'm usually up all hours of the night with the TV on and I've never seen the ad. I've seen ads for Cindy Crawford's stuff, Chuck Norris' and
Christie Brinkley's exercise stuff, hair products and face products galore, some cook ware, tai boe (sp?) and assorted other stuff, but no AbChamp. Acually, since Dara Torres, the designer of the AbChamp is a world class swimmer and I have known about her for years, it would have caught my ear - until Miz Kate came on, that is.

NJGal51 said...

I'll be keeping tabs on the storm and praying for everyone's safety. I've got brothers and sisters in NJ (Jersey shore & a photographer so I should see some good raging ocean pictures), MA, CT and OH.

Tamara said...

Now ya gots me ta laffin too! Tears arunnin down my dadburn cheeks! Weeee doggies that wuz a knee slapper!
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Was dat your life that country band wasa singin bouts? So sad your dangum dog died right after your man ran aways.

Audible Click said...

My thoughts are with all of you in the path of the storm. Stay safe.

linda said...

You're right about the sciatic nerve - very painful. Have had it twice in twenty yrs and
my chiropractic is the only one for relief.
ER did nothing but give me a shot that knocked
me out for two days.

Badger Packer said...

Lurked here for years-never commented. Love this blog-helped me through a bad time (health), and gives me tons of laughs. Just wanted to say "Well Done" to Admin and all who stuck with doing right by the G8 and kids everywhere. You can probably guess where I am from.

anger issues kate said...

Everybody on the East coast be safe.

So Kate is having some wine. Then she is lying about sciatica. Why I say that, cause you don't mix wine or liquor with pain killers. But, I guess Kate thinks she is protected. And she is a nurse? I guess memorizing text from a book on nursing can get anyone a certificate. Remember Kate has not done any real practical nursing in 7 years, anyone can take a test. That does not mean you are a nurse. Every time some medical thing or accident has come up, Kate did not know what to do. Or have the child checked out, or rescued the pecked chicken or take the dog to the Vet right away. Anyone who is a nurse your nursing training comes in, for man or beast. And common sense kicks in. Kate has shown that her nursing skills stink.

A MOM said...

changing subject: Kate says from twitter: GN, no school tomorrow, and very appreciated. Question: why do the kids have to go to bed between 8-8:30pm? Normal 6th graders would balk and 2nd graders would whine. Do the kids need over 8 hrs. sleep?

capecodmama said...

Over in Kate's County...Around here that storm is called the "no name storm of '91". What a mess that was. It looks like we will be to the east of the eye which means incredible winds, little rain but high storm surge along the coast. The weather centers still don't know the exact track. Hubby bought a generator last year after Hurricane Irene. Authorities figure lots of power outages. It'll be interesting. Everyone be safe.

Tamara said...

Actually 8 and 12 year olds should get at least 9 hours of sleep a night.

Mel said...

Something that puzzles me from the book is when John told her that one of the kids had a rash in the morning. I can't believe that she didn't go look at it until he insisted on it later in the afternoon. What kind of a mom does that???
Especially a nurse mom.

Days Of Whine And Roses said...

Anger said,

"So Kate is having some wine. Then she is lying about sciatica. Why I say that, cause you don't mix wine or liquor with pain killers"

))))))))))))))

Kate said that she is taking pain killers? Did she say what she's taking? Was this recently?

persona non grata said...

Notice that the Z guy couldn't be bothered to follow the Gosselin law to the signing. Guess he couldn't get a big enough advance on his maybe book and selling his soul to CNN paid more.

I really felt sorry for Irene (don't know if she posts here under that name or another handle) who truly cared about the Gosselin 8 and did Z's reseach, legwork and even attended the hearing and reported back to that opportunist newspaper blogger.

So........... thanks also to Irene, who is also a mother of 8 (eight) children and truly cared about child exloitation!

Anonymous said...

I just heard the singing in the car. I'm impressed and I'm not impressed.

Impressed : I'm so impressed with Collin! He is such a smart and sweet child. I will pray that he has a wonderful life . He deserves it!!

Not impressed: Kate is such an idiot! To record them singing in the car. I'm not going to say how the kids sounded , but good lord she sounds horrible! She can't carry a tune!!!!

Stay safe East Coast!

Let's Throw Tomatoes

fidosmommy said...

Mel, don't you know? Jon was supposed to take care of the rash himself and not bother Kate with his annoying unablelessness. Like that word?

You can also bet a dollar that if Jon had not said anything to Kate she would have blown up at him and told him everything he did for the child was wrong, wrong, wrong.

Rashes are no fun. I'm assuming this was the case of hives? Ever had hives? They are miserable.

What kind of stay at home mother does not look at her child all day, rash or not? Surely this child passed by her once or twice or sat and scratched and whimpered. What mother is not close enough for that to happen? I don't know.

fidosmommy said...

I have read some of Irene's thoughts elsewhere.
She does indeed have a heart for children.

anger issues kate said...

Day of whine & roses: No, Kate said nothing about taking any pain killers, that is just common sense, if you are in pain, most people take something for it or call their Doctor, and Kate being a nurse, she would be taking something. If I am in pain I take something, in terrible pain, I call Doctor and see what he/she tells me to do.

There is probably nothing wrong with Kate, she is just looking for a way out of the race on sunday. Cause, nobody is flipping the bill for her now. But then Kate just might go anyway, just to get away from the kids.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Mady just said 'You would make the best president of the United States ever. A lot of ppl might disagree but I don't'

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She said two hours ago the kids were in bed and she was drinking (alone). Now Mady is awake? Which is it? Also poor Mady she's had to devote her life to sucking up to Kate.

Jumping In said...

I am confused.

I went over to the Gather link and listened to the audio Kate taped of she and the kids singing in the BBB. Apparently, Kate did this audio recording, and to the best of my knowledge, the only way it gets out to the universe is if Kate sends it there, right?

Was this recording intended to share her kids joy while driving home from the bus stop? If so, I am unsure what the relevance this audio is meant to achieve. The other confusing thing is Kate's acknowledgement of Shoka. She said hi, but none of her kids chimed in, did they not see the dog, did they not hear their mother's refrain, or was the dog really there at all?

If Shoka was running down the driveway to greet the kids, why did not a single one of them yell out with glee to see him?

anger issues kate said...

Hey, do think Kate might go to Aussie next month, around the 15th?

Over In Kate's County said...

The weather centers still don't know the exact track. Hubby bought a generator last year after Hurricane Irene. Authorities figure lots of power outages. It'll be interesting.

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They just gave another update, and it appears that some computer models are indicating it's aimed at you, but most of them are putting us in the direct path. I mean...DIRECT hit. I'm concerned but at least it's not a major blizzard with 40 foot snow. I don't remember us ever having a Cat1 hurricane here.
Everyone in its path -- be safe!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Isn't it way too early to know exactly where it will land?

carezee said...

Mady just said 'You would make the best president of the United States ever. A lot of ppl might disagree but I don't' #agirlwholoveshermom

And now she will be president of the US. She will rule with a big wooden spoon. That woman is so delusional. And Mady apparently is full of wisdom. Yeah right Kate. That woman is trying to swiffer her life up. Only it is too late because we have all witnessed and read what she is really like.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Does she ever talk about how great the kids are and what THEY want to do and what THEIR interests are? Every single conversation she relays about the kids somehow relates directly back to her. I've never seen kids this obsessed with their mother.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Mady just said 'You would make the best president of the United States ever. A lot of ppl might disagree but I don't'

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She said two hours ago the kids were in bed and she was drinking (alone). Now Mady is awake? Which is it? Also poor Mady she's had to devote her life to sucking up to Kate.

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Ah, well that explains it; the 12 year olds are not the 'kids', they are her besties and are up sharing another quality evening with Mom. Hope Kate is the only one sipping from the wine box.

Anonymous said...

Kate might make a good President ! If a world leader would try to start trouble Kate will just pull him up by the hair and beat the crap out of him! We wouldn't need an army or bombs!

I can actually visualize that!! LOL

Let's Throw Tomatoes

Over In Kate's County said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 176

Isn't it way too early to know exactly where it will land?

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So it would appear, but all weather forecasting centers have it headed this way. I hope they are wrong and it takes a last minute turn and goes out to sea. What they are showing are several computer "lines" indicating where the models are predicting it will land. When all of the lines are very close together and all are going in the same general direction, they tend to focus on that because that's where the percentage of models are indicating it will go.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Geez now you can't even know what she means when she says the "kids" anymore.

Surely she would have taken off for LA by now, I think she's skipping out on that. Like anything else it wasn't REALLY about running, it was about someone else paying for her VIP treatment.

persona non grata said...

Thank's fidosmommy. I've often thought of Irene's efforts and admire her work. We retired from the DC/Annapolis area a few years ago, so I don't read Z's blog anymore but I did check in to see if he truly cared.

As for this storm for those of you out East - I really don't remember The Perfect Storm at all ... but in the Annapolis, MD area, the Storm of the Century in March '93 caused our barometer to go so low it was almost in the high section!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

She said there would be much needed "sleep in" tomorrow.

How are those poor kids supposed to sleep in if they were in bed and asleep by eight??? Good Lord. If they're going to sleep in anyway why are they banished to their bedrooms so early?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
...nothing like kids in bed, and me drinking a glass of wine while paying bills...it's giving me a head ache so, so much for that... :)

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The wine is giving her a headache or the bills are? Maybe you're drinking too much if wine is giving you headaches. And if she means her bills, that sounds like a grifting tweet to me. Who talks about their bills like this?? TACKY.

grandee4 said...

To all here that may be in the path of the hurricane, I will be praying for the storm to make a turn and miss everyone.

Hurricane Katrina survivor here and still picking up the pieces. There is one thing I would like to share with you, while gathering the essentials and preparing your home and loved ones, please make sure that anything of sentamental value ie pictures, family heirlooms etc, be placed up high. You never know when the water is going to come up or a window blow in. I am still heartbroken because of some things I lost that are not replaceable.

God bless all of you in the path.

Sandi said...

Kids always in bed early...well kate did say that was the safest place for them!
I find it hard to believe Kate has not responded to any of her reality. Getting fired, book on her abuse,new law in PA, where's Shoka etc. Her fans refuse to confront her on anything the least bit negative. The fans are called sheeple but I see them more as lil lambs who have lost their way.

fidosmommy said...

Mady, dear, what a sweet thought. How about this? When your mom is able to run her own household with 9 people in it, deal nicely with the staff and balance budgets without dipping into your cash, then we'll talk about her dealing with Congress, White House aides, Cabinet members and fiscal budgets. OK?

Then we'll move onto the people we share this global sphere with - you know, enemies and friends. America's got lots. It's probably best not to tick any of them off by being rude or abrasive. Think she can handle that?

So sorry that this got political.

Smoochie said...

Part of the reason they're calling it another 'perfect storm' is that there is a storm coming from the west which will greet the hurricane upon its arrival, so those on the coast will get a double whammy!

Tamara said...

This may sound odd but I'm actually hoping I loose power for at least a few hours. That's the only time I ever seem to play board games.

Call Me Crazy said...

Ex Nurse said... 138

... opinion on whether this law will have an impact on future lawsuits the kids might bring against TLC, Jon and Kate? Since the law was passed, does this give grounds because it is clearly the opinion of the state that the TOC contracts did not provide adequate protection for the children. Or, might it hurt their chances because it establishes a timeline for when their activity became illegal? SInce it would be a civil suit, is there a lowe threshold to prove that their parents were negligent in signing away their rights than required for a criminal prosecution?
_______________________

Ex Nurse - It will be interesting to see how everything plays out. Even though Murt's bill has just been signed into law, Jon and Kate had previously violated PA state labor laws by not securing work permits for the kids. The DOL just chose not to fine them or TLC (no doubt because they didn't want to scare production companies away from filming in the state). Kate later applied for the permits, and they were issued in 2010.

Discovery/TLC tried to cover their a$$e$ by writing into the contract that the parents were responsible for obtaining any required work permits. But any reputable company would have made sure that those permits were obtained.
They, of course, were all hiding behind the "children were not working" excuse.

The kids may end up having cases against not only their parents and Discovery/TLC, but against the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

Tamara said...

It's probably best not to tick any of them off by being rude or abrasive. Think she can handle that?
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Khate is like the ultimate Ugly American.

I wonder if the kids even bother trying to tell her about their days, their hopes and dreams. Do they ask her questions that aren't about her?

Vanessa said...

Ahh, the proverbial "you can be anything you want to be, including President" but of course the parentifying.egomaniac batshit crazy bitch puts her own spin on it.

njay said...

Admin,
I didn't delete your post and it's not in spam. I actually checked.

FYI blogger can be buggy. Not everything is me trying to silence you.
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Admin, this is not to me is it. I really have noticed that between those hrs I talked about, strange things happen to our comments. I wasn't trying to cause problems. I do respect you and the ladies/gents on this blog.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

No it wasn't to you

chefsummer said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 185

You stole the words right out of my mouth.

Kate drinking so much cause no one's footing her bills for her.-(LOL)

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I don't understand someone so disinterested in the world. And she wanted a talk show? You have to have genuine interest in people and things and events to make that a go. Even if you don't like news, at least try to be somewhat aware of what is going on for your children's sake so they won't grow up as ignorant as you.

Andy outing Kate was watching Real Housewives during the debate says everything. 67 million of us were watching, Kate. Seriously?

fidosmommy said...

Jay Leno/Letterman/Kimmel/Conan/Ellen all have to know the news to make jokes about the news.

Can you hear Kate now: Did you hear the one about the hurricane? Neither did I. I have no idea why Steve was babbling on about it. It was annoying.

fidosmommy said...

That's another question I would love to ask the sheeple. Why do you think Kate has what it takes to be a good show host? What attributes would she bring to the set?

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