Saturday, October 13, 2012

Kate runs Rock 'n' Roll 10k in New York City

And I guess this race was for Breast Cancer Awareness, though you wouldn't know it from Kate.


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Stewmama said...

Is there a reason why Kate spelled her last name wrong and has a different address?

Improbable Dreams said...

Kate says: "I am so excited to announce that I will be running two races on behalf of CouponCabin, who will be supporting Susan G. Komen for the Cure® by donating funds to benefit Breast Cancer Awareness Month.

I will be running the Rock ‘n’ Roll New York 10k on October 13 and the Rock ‘n’ Roll Los Angeles Halloween Half Marathon on October 28.

I am excited to run these races not only to shear time off my personal bests, but most importantly because I am running to benefit a wonderful cause. Join me in doing what I can to help find the cure!"


(10/3 blog entry, via lateplusmy8 website)

And yet...her tweets today are all about shaking and shivering in the cold, the surprise gift of bib #8 (by Rock n Roll), and being pleased with her run time.

Kate, Kate, and more Kae. She mentioned NOTHING WHATSOEVER about Breast Cancer Awareness.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

I doubt KG even considered making a donation to the Komen Foundation to support this cause. Cause, what cause? Mememe, I'm so cold. Oh, Bib #8, how fun. Cause?

Kate is a twit said...

Kate was running for CC--CC is running a contest to support Breast Cancer Awareness Month. The only support Kate gave was to tweet one time about the contest, and to post the exact same thing on her website that CC posted on theirs. Kate didn't even write the CC post, it was written by Jackie W, who according to her bio is the CC spokesperson.

This is the post from the CC website, which reads almost exactly as what Kate put on hers.

Kate Gosselin will be running two races on behalf of CouponCabin, who will be supporting Susan G. Komen for the Cure® by donating funds to benefit Breast Cancer Awareness Month.

Kate will be running the Rock ‘n’ Roll New York 10k on October 13 and the Rock ‘n’ Roll Los Angeles Halloween Half Marathon on October 28.

"
Want to support CouponCabin and Kate Gosselin? Just enter your info below. For every entry we receive from October 1 to October 31, we’ll donate a dollar to Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Plus, from the entries, we’ll be randomly selecting one Grand Prize winner, one Second Prize winner and one Third Prize winner. The prizes are outlined below."

And just to clarify, Susan G. Komen, is not one of the charities affiliated with the NYC 10K.

This was all CC's idea, and CC's promotion-Kate did her one tweet and that was it for her. It was part of her job, not part of her wanting to raise awareness for this charity.

Jumping In said...

What continues to astound me is Kate's ability to spew the same crap and never have a serious challenger confront her on any of it. When she was on Andy Cohen's show she went through her standard excuses for not going back to nursing. WHY didn't he jump on her "the income would all go to the babysitter" nonsense. ALL 8 kids are in SCHOOL, how much time would a baby sitter be required? Every response Kate gives goes unchallenged, her script never makes any sense, but it is allowed to fly. Do all these networks have some agreement to give her a blanket, free-pass?

Another question Andy could have asked was, "are you receiving money for these runs you are doing, is that how you are supporting your 8 children?" This run in New York today has nothing to do with the cause, Kate does not care about causes, she cares about promoting herself, and doesn't even manage to do that well.

These last-gasp appearances on television recently have been designed to layer
another coat of Teflon on Kate prior to Hoffman's book going mainstream. Prepare yourself for the "Defence of THE BOOK" tour, it's all she has left now, but for Kate it's another opportunity for her to prove the "haters" wrong. Never mind, so much of his book is in her own words, she was sleep-deprived when she was whaling on her kids, "it is what it is" response. It's about the "new" Kate, moving forward, same old lies, with new packaging, always unchallenged for reasons that will forever elude me!



Improbable Dreams said...

It occurred to me...maybe CC wasn't able to raise much money for the Susan G Komen foundation via their affiliation with Kate? If so, I can see her choosing not engage in any further conversations about it. Too embarrassing for her, maybe?

Kate is a twit said...

For someone who claims to run so much, her pace of 9:01, is really lousy.

In SD(June 3) her pace was approx. 8:85 for a half, and in the YesICan 5K (Sept. 8) her pace was 8:7l. This was her first 10K, so there's nothing to compare it to. Even then, you would think her pace would improve, especially since the weather was cooler than her previous 2 runs.

She'll probably make the excuse that the extra clothing she had to wear due to the temperature slowed her down.

Improbable Dreams said...

Perhaps CC didn't raise much money for the Susan G. Komen Foundation via their promotional affiliation with Kate. Maybe that's why Kate's not mentioning it today.

Not an excuse, mind you, but one possible reason.

Anonymous said...

Can someone clue me in on how running in this race supports breast cancer awareness. I mean did she have people supporting her by pledging so much per mile? Did she ask 'sponsors'/fans to pledge $$? Whenever my daughter runs for cancer (the annual Terry Fox run in Canada) she has numerous people who support her by pledging $$ per mile.

bm

Anonymous said...

Kate is a Twit . . . the reason people do not jump on Kate is because she comes across as not very bright, uncomfortable and unsure of herself. If they jumped on her, they would be looked at like bullies and they would probably feel like bullies. It is one thing to talk about Kate on a blog but to confront her face to face in front of an audience and call her out is not that easy to do or even advisable to do.

Marie

Kate is a twit said...

I noticed in one of the AH videos, when she was talking about Halloween the cost of a costume jumped to $28 from the $20 she stated on her blog.

I don't understand either why they don't challenge her further. Maybe they do and it's cut from the interview. Kate impresses me as the type that only gives interviews if she has the final say in what is shown.

As far as them not asking about the book--Kate already gave her answer to that on Katie Couric-that she can't comment on it, so I can see why they wouldn't even go there.

Improbable Dreams said...

Anonymous at 8~
It was a cross-promotion with Coupon Cabin. Via her blog/website:

"If you want to support the cause, just click here for more details and official terms and to enter your information. For every entry that is received, a dollar will be donated to Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Plus, from the entries, amazing prizes will be given to random winners! The prizes are outlined below."

The links disappeared when I copy/pasted it here, but it'll give you the gist of things, anyway.

LaLaLandNoMore said...

I hope that sooner rather than later, someone will introduce her as "former reality show star, Kate Gosselin." Hasn't she and the kids been off the air for over a year? Has been, wouldn't you say?

Anonymous said...

Uh-oh. Back to her old tricks, I see.

Her website is hyper-inflating visitor counts again. She was called out on that a while back, but supposedly "they" fixed it.

aggiemom09121416 said...

UPDATE: In December of 2011, right after Christmas, while I was combing through some of Kate Gosselin’s discarded personal belongings, I came across some things that she could have done to help the kid’s own school with fundraising – you know, the very expensive private school that gave her kids an almost free ride on the huge tuition bill. But not Kate Gosselin. She simply threw these things in the garbage with the rest of the ‘junk mail.’ These are some of things that I found in Kate’s trash.   THE EXCELLENCE FUND Kid’s school holiday fundraiser.   Opened and thrown in trash, complete with pledge card and envelope.   RUN FOR FITNESS APPLICATION   Opened and thrown in trash, application form untouched. This was a chance for Kate to be with Cara for a school RUNNING event on September 30, 2011 at the school. A ½ mile run. Kate tells us all the time via Twitter that Cara is a runner and they run together. What could be more perfect than the two of them running together to help their own school raise money?   GRANDPARENT’S DAY Opened and thrown in trash, complete with invitation to send to the kid’s grandparents.   “Dear Lower School Families, Grandparent/ Grandfriend’s Day was one of the most successful lower school events last year. This special day provides grandparents the opportunity to spend some time with their grandchild( ren) at school. This year G Day has been set for Tuesday, November 22, 2011.”   FLOWER POWER FUNDRAISING Order and Payment collection envelope, order form and product catalog, with Gosselin kid’s names on them, thrown in trash without any writing on them. Never used.




ons 18290-18308). . Kindle Edition.
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If Kate won't donate to her own kid's school, I hardly doubt she'd donate to anyone else. She was happy to give God his 10% of her garage sale proceeds, anyone want to say whether Kate donated 10% of her 1.9 mil adjusted income???

LancasterCountyMom said...

LoveMyGrandsons,
I was so sorry to read on the other post about your friend from work. She sounds like she was a wonderful person. {{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}

aggiemom09121416 said...

“God had just taught me something big. He proved to me that I would never be able to out-give Him.” – Kate Gosselin   Kate Gosselin and TLC/ Discovery made a big show out of Kate Gosselin ‘giving back,’ at least twice that I saw in the early shows. They filmed a trip to St. Jude hospital in Memphis Tennessee for Kate to ‘give back’ to children with pediatric cancer, and they did a yard sale episode selling their belongings to raise money for pediatric cancer research. The actual name of the St. Jude episode was ‘Giving Back.’ Catchy. That would sure lead the viewers and the public to believe that Kate Gosselin is a charitable woman who cares about people, children in particular, less fortunate than herself. Here’s what you may not know. All or most of the clothing that Kate and her children wear have been given to her, whether through sponsorship of the show or individual endorsement deals put together by Kate or her manager. The Gymboree, GAP clothing, etc. All for free. By 2009, Kate Gosselin had already made several million dollars from doing her television show, and that was just a portion of her earnings, which also included her Christian books, speaking engagements, endorsement deals plus whatever else she had going on that we don’t even know about. Kate was very well off financially, there’s no question about that fact. So wouldn’t you think, as a Christian woman who’s received so much financial outpouring from her community and people all across the country in the early days – when she was supposedly struggling to make ends meet for her family, both financially and in the form of clothing for her children – wouldn’t you think that she would want to ‘give back?’ Just a little bit? Not Kate Gosselin. In 2009, I watched as UPS employees loaded cases and cases of free Juicy Juice into her car for her. I learned by reading her contracts and endorsement deals that Juicy Juice donated a ‘lifetime supply of Juicy Juice’ to Kate and the kids. In 2009, as a millionaire, wouldn’t it have been nice to see Kate take that to the local food bank or have Juicy Juice send it directly there in her kids’ name? Also in 2009, when it was time for Kate to clean out some of the kid’s clothing that she could no longer use, I personally followed her, several times, to a consignment shop in Shillington, PA, where she carried in piles of children’s clothing, to RE-SELL. Clothes that she didn’t even pay for in the first place, Kate Gosselin, a millionaire, was now going to sell to the needy. I watched her and photographed her, and the paparazzi photographed her doing this, so there can be no dispute. I also spoke to the consignment shop owner after Kate had left. This particular shop is three miles from my house and I had been there many times before. The worst part? On the way to that consignment shop from her house, Kate had to drive by – in her $ 69,000 Toyota Land Cruiser – a giant Goodwill Industries distribution center and retail store, where she could have donated the items to the needy and gotten a tax write off in the process… and saved a lot of time if she was in a hurry. Kate was a millionaire getting everything for free and she was reselling her free children’s clothing, rather than donating to the needy.

aggiemom09121416 said...

This is nothing new for Kate though. As far back as when the sextuplets were babies and Kate was begging for help and handouts of any kind, she should have just told her community up front that what she was really looking for was cold cash. Even then, Kate was excepting bag after bag of gently used clothing at her house in Wyomissing, only to have it all taken directly to the local consignment shop where she would turn it into cash. Kate knew that she only wanted and deserved, brand new designer clothes for her brood. She was contacting stores every day soliciting the freebies. Surely Kate does ‘give back’ though, right? How could anyone be so cold and greedy? Well you’re in luck. She’s not a cold-hearted monster after all. Here’s the proof – in Kate’s own words from her journal - that she really does, or at least did at one point, ‘give back.’

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 18047-18052). . Kindle Edition.

Saturday June 23 2007 Today was our second yard sale of the season and we had as much to sell if not more if that is even believable! I couldn’t believe the full garage (and neither could Kevin) of stuff after the yard sale we had eight weeks ago!!!! We sold all six of the cribs for 300 total and all six of the car seats (Graco comfortsports) as well and a lot of other stuff to total 760 something in profit— of which I was sure to give God his 10 percent of the proceeds.   Not bad for God. Let’s see, ten percent of $ 760-something is, hold on, carry the …, um, $ 76-something. In 2007, Discovery paid Kate $ 109,186.90 in show salary alone, plus bonuses, plus they filled her home with free merchandise as far as the eye could see.

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 18058-18065). . Kindle Edition.

Ex Nurse said...

Marie said....
the reason people do not jump on Kate is because she comes across as not very bright, uncomfortable and unsure of herself. If they jumped on her, they would be looked at like bullies and they would probably feel like bullies. It is one thing to talk about Kate on a blog but to confront her face to face in front of an audience and call her out is not that easy to do or even advisable to do.
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I agree with you. Also, the best interviewers don't need to press their guests. They ask questions that lead the person to reveal information. Viewers can easily see the careful wording, evading the question, body language, expression and unintended responses. I can't imagine that Kate is picking up any fan. But people in the public eye do tend to be sympathetic to their guest because they know what it is like to be in the public eye. Having personal journals publicly exposed would be a public person's worst nightmare. Most people are not following the twists and turns of Kate's every tweet or detail of her life. Having a self-proclaimed 'obsessed' journalist relentlessly picking through garbage, standing outside the property observing them and then release a book and spawn articles across multiple tabloids does seem pretty creepy--regardless of the morals of the subject. And, the sheer one-sided coverage of Kate, and the blatant disregard of the incovenient truths of Jon's contributions to this sad story, simply makes it easier to dismiss this as a personal vendetta. Lots of people would be offended at Robert's blatant disregard of privacy and boundaries. That is why his book will never get mainstream traction and that is why interviewers will, at most, touch on the book and then move on. To many people Robert has violated many cultural norms, including the fact that we, as a society, generally like to get the whole story before they make a judgement. His bias was so obvious--I mean, he blasted Beth, and not one word about John???--that it renders the majority of his comments absolutely useless.

I'm going to get my hazmat suit to prepare the sh*t that will probably be launched my way.

Fire away!

Mel said...

Jon has 8 kids depending on him too. Why doesn't he need security?

aggiemom09121416 said...

Mel 19...

LOL! good one, hahahahah
Kate's really full of shi*, isn't she.

Parent In Lancaster County said...

If Kate won't donate to her own kid's school, I hardly doubt she'd donate to anyone else.

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She's listed in the 2011-2012 annual school report under Parent Giving. Donation amount isn't stated...could be five dollars, could be five hundred dollars or more.

Just giving credit where credit's due!

Parent In Lancaster County said...

I noticed in one of the AH videos, when she was talking about Halloween the cost of a costume jumped to $28 from the $20 she stated on her blog.

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I was at one of the local Good Will stores this week picking up some odds and ends I needed for some Halloween costumes, and I noticed that they had new costumes, some really cute stuff, for five dollars each. Could she afford $40 for costumes? I certainly would think so...

cherier1 said...

@Ex Nurse 18. Valid points. I don't disagree. I takes 2 to tango, as they say. Jon finally started to get healthy and stand up to her (would love to know exactly what caused him to finally make a stand). I was disappointed with the bias in the book. It would have been better, IMO, to let her simply reveal herself.

Dmasy said...

Ex nurse, 18-- You brought up several points that I had not considered. I want to mull them over. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Re ex-Nurse. I think you're using Jon as a red herring in order to distract from the copious amount of evidence that Robert has provided that shows Kate has engaged in multiple instances of child abuse. By your assessment Robert’s book is not to be taken seriously because it does not include an equal condemnation of Jon. By that logic, any evidence I find that supports my position that X is a detestable person must be disregarded no matter how strong my evidence, if I do not likewise denounce Y. You made a similar type of argument regarding the HCG injections. The fact is neither you nor I have any way of knowing if the drugs Kate ordered from Canada played a role in her becoming pregnant with multiples. But that is not the point is it? The point is that she actively tried to increase her chances of having multiples despite her claims that she only wanted one more.

mo

JoyinVirginia said...

Carry over from prior thread. Many were discussing what they were doing this weekend. I am at the Richmond Folk Festival and just saw Roseanne Cash, Johnny s daughter who its a country and roots music star in her own right. She is in Richmond Virginia to help support a charity with local roots and headquarters, Children Incorporated. Childrenincorporated.org
Roseanne Cash has been a supporter of this charity that supports children living in poverty in the USA and other countries by working with established organizations and NGOs. It is great to see a talented entertainer put their money and time and effort into helping an organization they believe in. Roseanne Cash has been a sponsor thru that organization for 25 years.

Anonymous said...

Cherier1. I'm puzzled by your reaction to Robert's book. Critical works do not have to be even handed, and in general they are written because of the writer's passionate interest in the subject at hand. The key to judging a nonfiction piece of work is the quality of the evidence. In Robert's case, your questions should be: What is the source of his evidence? Is he using it in a way that he distorts the truth? I say this as someone who reads at least two or three scholarly articles a week, and several high caliber nonfiction books over the course of a year. You didn't mention this, but I saw it posted elsewhere. The fact that he obtained his evidence by digging through trash in no way diminishes the truth of what he has to say. In fact it is quite common for journalists to dig around in trashcans.

mo

Rhymes with Witch said...

The fact is neither you nor I have any way of knowing if the drugs Kate ordered from Canada played a role in her becoming pregnant with
multiples. But that is not the point is it? The point is that she actively tried to increase her chances of having multiples despite her claims that she only wanted one more. 25

My thoughts exactly.

Cruisin Just As Fast As She Can Now said...

Having a self-proclaimed 'obsessed' journalist relentlessly picking through garbage, standing outside the property observing them and then release a book and spawn articles across multiple tabloids does seem pretty creepy--regardless of the morals of the subject

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It sounds creepy if you don't know that this is what many of them do. I've seen reporters befriend the bus drivers of celebrities, just to get on the bus and check the seats (and beds) for anything left behind. I've seen one relentless reporter going through trash outside a venue because the celebrity he was hounding had thrown away a taco. I've "had it out" with a pap for taking photos of cigarettes in an ashtray because he was writing a scoop on how this celebrity had said he quit smoking and the reporter wanted to prove that this wasn't true. I have no idea how he was going to prove that the cigarettes belonged to the celebrity unless he was going to have DNA testing done.

Yes, indeed. I agree it sounds creepy, but in the world of celebrity-ism, things like that are often not out of the ordinary. There are times I think that I would like to write a book about the lengths some reporters and photographers go to when they are writing a story or a book. It goes with the territory. I've seen some things that nobody would believe, myself included, if I hadn't been there myself.

But if Robert hadn't gone through the trash, he wouldn't have found the journals and we wouldn't have proof of what we had suspected all along. If Kate had not set herself up as a victim in the divorce, had not had a penchant for not telling the truth, had not been so hell bent on fame and fortune at the expense of her children's privacy, and had been a nice person who was pleasant in her dealings with other people, perhaps none of this would have happened. She only has herself to blame.

AuntieAnn said...

Parent In Lancaster County said... 22
I was at one of the local Good Will stores this week picking up some odds and ends I needed for some Halloween costumes, and I noticed that they had new costumes, some really cute stuff, for five dollars each. Could she afford $40 for costumes? I certainly would think so...
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Kate said they have "a humungus, huge, huge, dress up bin...and they have every costume on the planet....[and I think I dodged that question pretty well so can we move on before my head starts spinning on my neck]..."

She didn't answer the question about Halloween AT ALL! She fumbled her way through the whole interview without completing an entire sentence. It's so painful to listen to her. I think the interviewer was told where she couldn't go with it, so it was a total wash as usual. Steve was probably standing at the sidelines pointing his nerfpistol at the woman's head, just in case things went off track from the sloppy script they've thrown together to save Kate's ass.


She won't answer the questions about Shoka from her tweeties either, which after all this time, leads me to believe he's dead. If he's alive she needs to take a photo of him with today's newspaper. (Yeah, I know....not gonna happen Auntie, she doesn't get the newspaper)

KATE WHERE IS SHOKA?

Remona Blue said...

mo said 27
''..........By that logic, any evidence I find that supports my position that X is a detestable person must be disregarded no matter how strong my evidence, if I do not likewise denounce Y. ''.....
''The fact that he obtained his evidence by digging through trash in no way diminishes the truth of what he has to say. In fact it is quite common for journalists to dig around in trashcans.''
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AMEN! Journalists aren't the only ones that dig around in trashcans. Police departments, and even the FBI also pick up and go through trash when investigating someone.
Robert clearly said that the book was dedicated to the Gosselin children. His way of helping the children was to expose what a horrible abusive mother KK was (is?) The book is ROBERT'S and it is HIS book to write with whatever ''bias'' he has.


Anonymous said...

As a Cancer survivor and a donar to Cancer Awareness , I am furious that CC has made Kate the face of Cancer Awareness , that Rock Roll Marathons let her tag them, and the Cancer Society hasn't told them they do not want Kate Gosselin, CHILD/ ANIMAL ABUSER , to have any association to them! I'm going to investigate who is at the top of the charity and write them as a Cancer survivor, a donar, a mother, an educator, and an animal lover that they are making a mistake not to disassociate themselves from her!!

Ex- Nurse : how creepy that RH went into the garbage (yuck) and got the information and exposed poor, poor sweet Kate ! I'm sure the interviewers who some have kids, are dog lovers feel soooooooo bad for Kate! That's probably why they feel bad for her and don't ask the questions ! Huh?????

I think RH took one for the team!! Actress and Millionaire Jessica Alba goes into garbage cans and takes things to refurbish, and the guy who wrote the book about Sarah Palin rented a house next door to her!

Kate is being protected by someone I just don't know who! I still think she is an a## kisser and the media falls for her phoniness!

Let's Throw Tomatoes

cherier1 said...

Anonymous said... 27
Cherier1. I'm puzzled by your reaction to Robert's book. Critical works do not have to be even handed, and in general they are written because of the writer's passionate interest in the subject at hand. The key to judging a nonfiction piece of work is the quality of the evidence. In Robert's case, your questions should be: What is the source of his evidence? Is he using it in a way that he distorts the truth? I say this as someone who reads at least two or three scholarly articles a week, and several high caliber nonfiction books over the course of a year. You didn't mention this, but I saw it posted elsewhere. The fact that he obtained his evidence by digging through trash in no way diminishes the truth of what he has to say. In fact it is quite common for journalists to dig around in trashcans.

mo
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I have no issue with how Robert obtained his evidence not the evidence itself. It's Robert's comments, especially toward the end of the book, that I did not care for; I thought they weakened the overall effect of the book and seemed to be a personal attack at times. Her words alone are damning enough. I get that this is also personal for Robert: the treatment of the children is heartbreaking to him (and us). I think the book would have been better served w/o the personal judgments. If I had the book at hand, I would give you examples of what I mean. I don't. I think Ex Nurse makes some valid points. Most people have not followed this story as we have, so facts are important for them to read; IMO, it's more powerful when the facts are laid out and the reader can then draw her own conclusions.

As for Jon, I think the focus of this book is Kate as the Mastermind, so I can understand Jon being mostly left out. I have more sympathy for Jon in all of this because he took the steps he needed to take to get healthy and his love for his children has always shown through to me. He can't help the fact that his was a passive personality drawn to a dominant personality. Nor do I blame Kate for being a dominant personality drawn to a weaker personality. My issue is with people who will not change/seek help/learn and grow when the life they are living is obviously not healthy/not working. Jon made changes (and lots of mistakes in the process) and got healthy(healthier). I can't see that Kate has made any real changes. Perhaps because she isn't willing to admit that she owns a large part of the problem to begin with.

VegasBaby said...

I HATE the expression it is what it is. What does that even mean? Sounds like one big cop out to me.
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LOL Admin!
I say this all the time.
(I might stop though, if it's now a Kate-ism)

Tamara said...

I want to know why not a single member or the press, written or televised, will seriously question Khate and address the abuse (of children and dogs), constant lies, and greed more than I want to know: A) who exactly Milo is. B) has Khate slept with Skeeve Pinkerton? C) How much £ she really has stashed away D) how much £ is in the kid's college accounts

cherier1 said...

I do say "It is what it is" to my kids. THEN I ask them how they are going to deal with it/change it to make it what they want it to be.

This is the step Kate never wants to take.

Tamara said...

Did Khate give Jon back his surname or has she just decided to make a specialised newish creativish spelling that she can take credit for masterminding, like Aaden?

cherier1 said...

Tamara said... 35
I want to know why not a single member or the press, written or televised, will seriously question Khate and address the abuse (of children and dogs).....

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Because the press in this country is owned by a handful of massive corporations that control the news. The spin they want out is what they report. http://www.freepress.net/ownership/chart

Midnight Madness said...

cherier1 said... 33 As for Jon, I think the focus of this book is Kate as the Mastermind, so I can understand Jon being mostly left out.

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The title of the book is "Kate Gosselin: How She Fooled The World," NOT "Jon and Kate Gosselin: How They Fooled The World."

It stands to reason, then, that the book is about Kate, her diaries, her notes, her e-mails, and the abuse of her children and animals at HER hands.

AuntieAnn said...

I googled "it is what it is". No one seems to really have a definitive answer.

Maybe it is what it is isn't. But if it isn't what is it?

Midnight Madness said...

cherier1 said... 38 Because the press in this country is owned by a handful of massive corporations that control the news. The spin they want out is what they report. http://www.freepress.net/ownership/chart

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Then the question becomes...why don't they WANT to report the news of Kate and the abuse? Because she's no longer relevant and it's not going to sell stories? Because they are afraid of the power of her attorneys and TLC? Because they don't want to get involved in something that they are worried might not be based on facts?

cherier1 said...

@MidnightMadness "It stands to reason, then, that the book is about Kate, her diaries, her notes, her e-mails, and the abuse of her children and animals at HER hands."

We agree.

Midnight Madness said...

AuntieAnn said... 40 Maybe it is what it is isn't. But if it isn't what is it?

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Darn if I know. I'm still trying to figure out if "who" is on first or second (from a few threads ago!)...

PatK said...

AuntieAnn said... 40
I googled "it is what it is". No one seems to really have a definitive answer.

Maybe it is what it is isn't. But if it isn't what is it?

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I don't know, either. But we better not touch it!

Katie Cry-duh said...

I ran a 10k in 55 minutes, too. But that was with almost no training. I wasnt out there running 5-10 miles a day, 4-5 times a week, as Kate claims she does. No way do I believe she runs much at all, unless a pap has agreed to photograph it. And hell no, she did not run that marathon in Vegas.

Anonymous said...

I'm laughing about the expression " it is what it is" and how many in the past have been so much worse!
The one I couldn't stand was , WHAT'S UP?? Young people use to yell that one.
Also , Shut the front door, or That's what I'm talking about, or That's amazzzzzzzing, or I really like you "Not" or Hey dude. There are many more but in a hurry because I have a hair color appt.

I don't like to get upset ,life is to short, but Kate brings out the worst in me! I'm going out to do something fun after my hair color! Nobu, Nobu, no thanks I don't like raw fish!

Let's Throw Tomatoes

cherier1 said...

@MidnightMadness

I think because many of her spots (People, Access Hollywood) are paid PR pieces pretending to be interviews. Consider also who owns what. It's incestuous and they take care of each other.

http://www.neatorama.com/2008/07/07/who-owns-what-on-television/

Disney owns ABC & Lifetime. Access Hollywood is on ABC....The View is on ABC. The show filmed at Disney..I'm sure there are lots of connections to be found, but I don't have time to search them out.

Midnight Madness said...

miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 @amy_terry
Girl...I tweeted U last nite that it was gonna be COLD! See..should have listened 2FiredUp! LOL #AlwaysPrepared :)

I wonder if Milo is like this with her own family (if she has one), or perhaps she concentrates all her energy on Kate, therefore leaving her own family alone (for which they may be thankful)!

Formerly Duped said...

If Kate's so crafty, she could do a lot with items from Micheals' and use a Q-pon! I used to fashion costumes out of felt, hot glue gun, ribbons, bits and pieces when my kids wanted to be specific things no costumes exist of!

My son wanted to be a specific Lego piece- some little man- and I used felt on red sweats, made the Lego Logo, yellow face paint, and it turned out great! I loved 'making' their costumes. I was sad one year when my dd wanted a store-bought one so she and her friends could all be part of a theme...

Rhymes with Witch said...

A little humor. Who's on first.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/humor4.shtml

LaLaLandNoMore said...

Who is continuing to pay Steve N.? Is he being paid by Kate with the kids' money or are his fees being covered by the events they attend? It's just too cozy for my taste and if Jon did suspect something yrs. ago, who could blame him? People far more famous than Kate travel without security. She is truly delusional. Road manager my foot! One man traveling alone with one woman looks suspect no matter what Kate says. Andy C. got his digs in on that. People aren't stupid, Kate. Keep digging that hole. Eventually, the has been will not be on television for any reason. Even being the mother of two sets of multiples won't garner you any attention. Looking forward to the day.

Kate is a twit said...

I googled the phrase "it is, what it is" and found several definitions in the Urban Dictionary.

I think this one is how most everyone interpret the phrase:

Meaning #1 A phrase used to instill a sense of acceptance in a situation. It is used to remind one of the unalterable elements of life. think of " I am who I am" The phrase defines things that cannot be changed, it to say "it is this way, so we have to accept it." An apple can never be an orange, even though if you wish, hope and dream it was an orange. it IS what it IS"

However, I did find one definition that definitely applies to Kate's use of it:

"What incredibly vapid, stupid and unoriginal people say when they cannot construct a proper thought, retort or sentence.

If you were to ask a nitwit why he left work early, the response would go something like this. I don't know, I mean, I just felt ...I left early. It is what it is.

Or, when you catch a person in a lie, scheme or have proven them wrong in any way, It is what it is is sure to leak from their gaping mouth."

Formerly Duped said...

Twit:

"What incredibly vapid, stupid and unoriginal people say when they cannot construct a proper thought, retort or sentence.

I think that's how Kate uses it and millions others, ugh.

Thanks!

PatK said...

LaLaLand, my best guess is that Steve's fee is worked into and made a condition of any kind of appearance agreement.

Laurie said...

Let's Throw Tomatoes I think you're taking this a bit too far. I don't see where anyone has made Kate the face of cancer awareness. All she did was participate in a 10K run supporting breast cancer awareness. There is no need to "investigate who is at the top of the charity" and write to them about one race run. It's not as if she's part of the official BC awareness campaign. She participated in a race as a rep for CC as they are paying her and it is October and BC awareness month hence the BC references. If it were another month it would be another cause. And yes, I am a breast cancer survivor.

LaLaLandNoMore said...

Thanks, PatK. I forgot for a second that Kate doesn't pay for anything she doesn't have to! That would include Steve N's security/escort fees.

AuntieAnn said...

"What incredibly vapid, stupid and unoriginal people say when they cannot construct a proper thought, retort or sentence.

If you were to ask a nitwit why he left work early, the response would go something like this. I don't know, I mean, I just felt ...I left early. It is what it is.
Or, when you catch a person in a lie, scheme or have proven them wrong in any way, It is what it is is sure to leak from their gaping mouth."
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Bingo. Has anything ever defined Katespeak better?
Thank you Kate is a Twit!

Kate is a twit said...

Let's Throw Tomatoes

Kate's run had nothing to do with Breast Cancer Awareness. CC used the fact that she was running the NYC10K as an excuse to promote a contest they were running to raise funds. It was strictly a CC PR move, and was only advertised on the CC site.

The NYC10K had no affiliation whatever with Breast Cancer Awareness. It was a Run RocknRoll race, that's all. Yes, people can run to raise funds for a charity--most races have that option. But Breast Cancer Awareness was not one of the official charities endorsing this race.

Kate is a twit said...

AuntieAnn said... 57

In Katespeak, "it is, what it is" is the new "um".

IDModo said...

This is off the present topic, but there is a pic on Preesi's site showing Shoka and Nala both in a wire crate that is barely big enough for ONE German Shepherd. If they were confined like that for long periods of time, no wonder they tried to escape using their teeth to bend the bars!

I wonder what the state of their poor mouths was after they did this..Shoka looks poorly groomed and as if he could use a good bath and brushing. Come to think of it, so does Kate!
Unfortunately, for a different reason.

Ex Nurse said...

Mo said... 25
Re ex-Nurse. I think you're using Jon as a red herring in order to distract from the copious amount of evidence that Robert has provided that shows Kate has engaged in multiple instances of child abuse. By your assessment Robert’s book is not to be taken seriously because it does not include an equal condemnation of Jon. By that logic, any evidence I find that supports my position that X is a detestable person must be disregarded no matter how strong my evidence, if I do not likewise denounce Y. You made a similar type of argument regarding the HCG injections. The fact is neither you nor I have any way of knowing if the drugs Kate ordered from Canada played a role in her becoming pregnant with multiples. But that is not the point is it? The point is that she actively tried to increase her chances of having multiples despite her claims that she only wanted one more. 
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I have been consistent on my view that what we are viewing is a dysfunctional family on parade. Marital dynamics always have two sides to the equation and it isn't useful, IMO to only look at one side. There is enough blame to go around and I have never used Jon as a red herring--why would I? I think that Kate is a child-beating, emotionally abusive succubus--why would I try to draw the attention away from her? I don't believe that there is a good guy in this story, as much as as I wish there were. Those poor kids were cursed with 2 selfish, self-absorbed parents that are incapable of putting their family before themselves. They were not equipped to take care of a fish, let alone a child. 

My larger point is that people who are not following every twist and turn of the sage are going to question why the book is so one-sided and that is probably why no major network will go near it. Robert's rabid obsession does him no favors and does not help to carry any message to anyone other than those of us who already saw many of her described behaviors. Some people are going to be offended by his methods,--especially those in the public eye. Again, she is so off the radar, this looks like it is coming out of nowhere and the one-sidedness looks like an obsessed vendetta. 

As far as my HCG comment, I was responding to the assertions, by multiple poster, as absolute fact, that an additional dose of HCG, administered by Kate, with no doubt whatsoever,  increased the number of eggs to 7.  This was based on Robert's musings, not on science. Legitimate authors would not go there without input from a fertility specialist. He will be discounted for that--that is a fact. 

I also said virtually the identical statement as your final sentence--that if there is anything to the story, it shows that she was trying to increase the chance of HOM. 

rainbowsandunicorns said...

There is no need to "investigate who is at the top of the charity" and write to them about one race run. It's not as if she's part of the official BC awareness campaign.

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Has she tweeted that she's running for breast cancer awareness? Has she tweeted that donations are always appreciated? Just asking...I may have missed it. If not, why not? It would seem that a few tweets to promote it wouldn't take much effort on her part. She did, however, tweet about her finish time and the cold weather.

SS Blvd said...

I hear what you're saying Katie Cry-duh (45). My daughter and her boyfriend decided to run a 10k. She runs occasionally, but not that much. She is 27. The course had a lot of hills. She finished in under an hour. Either Kate exaggerates how much she runs, or she is just not that great of a runner.

from Canada said...

I think Jon has been vilified in the press through TLC protecting Kate and suing him for wanting to get out of the contract. To this day, tabloid magazines still portray Kate as a single mom of 8, the sole support of her children, while Jon is mentioned as no better than a ninth child who did nothing to help care or support the children when he was in the marriage, and after the divorce as a boozing, women chasing unemployed loser. Jon certainly had his moments after he got away from Kate and TLC where his actions, as far as I could tell, corroborated the boozing and women-chasing, and certainly the bad decisions. But he did clean up his act, he got out of the public eye, he has been holding down jobs, from all indications he now has 50% custody and is very involved in the positive parenting of his children. While he was on the show he certainly was the more hands-on parent and the kids adored him. He was always shown doing the work, while Kate talked and criticized and yelled and proclaimed how exhausted she was.

To dismiss Robert's book because it doesn't disparage Jon enough seems a bit trite. Maybe Jon felt uncomfortable scamming churches, at least at the end, maybe he didn't beat his kids on a daily basis with a wooden spoon because they didn't toilet train quickly enough, maybe he didn't abuse the dogs. Maybe he didn't drive dangerously and erratically as if he was above the law. Maybe he didn't rejoice when other mothers didn't have as many babies as his wife did.

Maybe he walked away from a huge corporation that sought to exploit him and his children...

Maybe it's just not a level playing field.

Moose Mania said...

I think that Kate is a child-beating, emotionally abusive succubus--why would I try to draw the attention away from her?

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A succubus, in classical mythology, is a female demon who has sex with men in order to take their souls. They often appear in dreams. Much as been written in Irish legend that the succubus takes the sperm, draining the man until the life force is sucked out of him and he dies. A succubus is also a stunning female, very desirable and can seduce any male at any time.

Somehow "succubus" doesn't apply to Kate. I don't see her as a beautiful, seductive woman who beds men for the purpose of taking their life energy for herself!

Angie said...

Ex Nurse..Need not worry about the sh*t storm. I agree, but remember something, we are no longer a polite society with the media not as it was in the 1950s and 1960s when Media private citizens unless you committed crimes. Kate & Jon's neighbors in that little tiny house they lived in knew what was going on. Kate, especially, had made a lot of unfriendly encounters just in the work force. Women talk. Neighbors complained about lighting. K & J put themselves out there going the Church circuit. People often ARE not glad for you when you start piling up the free stuff, money, furniture, bigger houses. Letters and e mails went out to all media outlets about J & K. They were Too Good to be True on TLC. Beth, what happened to you, did you want that attention too? You will be my mystery but you read that journal and didn't speak up?

Kate kept changing her looks. Women viewers noticed how Not a Sensitive Mommy She was.Going from a 1 piece bathing suite to a bikini strikes of something other women take notice of. If Robert did not Stay the Course, with or without Jon, there were and are other reporters/paps who smelled a Rat, a very Not a Mommy Type person who mistreated people while traveling/hotel personnel.Kate took her divorce National and pulled a pile of bills out of her handbag on the Today Show, no money? She had millions. Who believed her?Not everyone. But Kate loved being in that limelight. She was now a full blown celebrity.

Something about Kate's TV persona blew apart when her Temper was exposed on DWTS. She could have had pity for trying to dance but she smacked down Tony and that was the beginning of the end of the Kate Gosselin Brand.

Kate Gosselin was a creation of herself and possibly that PR person. Now Kate is unhappy with herself that is why all the plastic surgery, the change in looks. With money, healthy family, beautiful home, kids doing well so she said and she is changing her looks because she cannot change her life. I did read a book about a famous Plastic Surgeon who became a psychiatrist. He said that how a person sees themself is why they want to change their looks. Kate did not tweak areas, she has completely changed her entire face and body. She went from a pretty country women to an ugly older woman who is drinking too much.JMO here.

Greatest mystery of all since Robert took the lie detector tests? Who did put him wise to stay on top of the garbage cans and their contents?

Since the Enquirer has been in business from their Fla location, they have torn through more trash than Waste Mgtment, lol lol lol. Everyone with brains knows that their trash is an entry way into what they eat, how they live, what detergent they use and all the stuff Enquiring Minds want to know about.

Kate destroyed herself and continues to do so. She can't stay away from interviews, TV and live the boring everyday life. Her fault, not Jon'. I would love to see this go to court though, sorry Robert. What fun it would be to have Beth take the oath to Tell the Truth and Kate? OMG, would be hysterical, she does not remember the truth. lol lol

Kate is a twit said...

This was her one and only tweet about it, which gave a link to the CC post about the contest, and her running the NYC10K and the LA half.

Kate Gosselin‏@Kateplusmy8
Support @CouponCabin, who will be donating $1 to Susan G. Komen for the Cure & giving away prizes: http://bit.ly/k84cure
9:40 AM - 1 Oct 12

carezee said...

from Canada I totally agree with everything you wrote. I couldn't have said it better. I hope that by RH writing this book he may help to level that playing field.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Much as been written in Irish legend that the succubus takes the sperm, draining the man until the life force is sucked out of him and he dies.


Well that part seems to fit...as an analogy, of course.

Dwindle said...

I assume since Kate did not encourage her 12 tweeties and 13 remaining fans to support Breast Cancer Research etc, that she assumed she would cure cancer by providing her magnificent presence at the event.

Well, did she? Did Kate cure cancer today by showing up?

... crickets...

Then maybe, Kate, you could encourage your widdle fans to support the cause. It's too late to promote the event...

Unless of course, the cure will be announced by Stevie tonight after paper fish and white wine...?

Lazy, self centered, ego maniacal, freak of nature...

Berks resident said...

His bias was so obvious--I mean, he blasted Beth, and not one word about John???--that it renders the majority of his comments absolutely useless.

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Hi there Ex-Nurse. I copied this part of your post because I thought I might answer with my opinion.

Al Walentis wrote a book about the Gosselins and it was ALL about Jon and all the awful things he had done. I felt Kate got a free pass from that book.

Robert and Al know each other, and actually planned on writing a book together. Obviously Robert knows that all the crap about Jon has been put out there already with nary a word about the wonderful Kate.

Perhaps what he saw and heard that summer was the reason why he chose to do what he did. JMO of course.

cherier1 said...

@From Canada

"Maybe it's just not a level playing field."

Amen.

Remona Blue said...

from Canada said... 64
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Bravo!! I agree with every single word you've said. Every. Word.

Anonymous said...

Angie......66

Wow, great job! You nailed it!

Ok got to go!

Let's throw Tomatoes

aggiemom09121416 said...

Berks resident said... 71

His bias was so obvious--I mean, he blasted Beth, and not one word about John???--that it renders the majority of his comments absolutely useless.
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But...Kate's journals are HER words. We read how she talks to Jon, we read how she threw Beth under the bus, and although both of them are somewhat culpable, Kate's words damn herself. Take Robert's commentary away and just her her journal..........

lukebandit said...

With kate's stupid thinking, It would eat her alive that if she went back to nursing that her nannyS would be making more than her!

The help making an income more than her? lol

It is really sickening how she has belittled and put down the nursing profession with her whining about it would not pay for her to go back to nursing because it would make her nannyS get paid more than her!

There are a lot of official single mothers with small children that are RN's and they work full time. Full time RN's work 3 12 hour shifts a week, and they pay 40 hours. And all the OT they want.

If I were an RN, I would be furious. I wish that the Nurses Association would put out a press release to object to kates pathetic claims. Wow, that would be awesome!

I just read that the national average nurses salary is 63K a year.

She is disgusting!

aggiemom09121416 said...

just her her journal..........
oopsie, 'just READ her journal;....

trying to watch football and type at the same time. lol
Hey Dwindle!!! how was the countryside today????

Dwindle said...

PatK said... 44
AuntieAnn said... 40
I googled "it is what it is". No one seems to really have a definitive answer.

Maybe it is what it is isn't. But if it isn't what is it?

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I don't know, either. But we better not touch it!
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What if it isnt what it is...?

I say we turn the whole thing over to NASA and all take antibiotics, just in case...

AuntieAnn said...

Kate is a twit said... 59
AuntieAnn said... 57
In Katespeak, "it is, what it is" is the new "um".
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I think she must have uttered that phrase at least ten times during the AH interview. I would go back and count the exact number but I don't want to ruin my entire Saturday by looking at that face and listening to that voice. I would rather have a chimpanzee pull out my toenails one by one with a pair of pliers.

Berks resident said...

Berks resident said... 71

His bias was so obvious--I mean, he blasted Beth, and not one word about John???--that it renders the majority of his comments absolutely useless.
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Oops! I just want to make it clear that I did not say the above quote, credit should be given to Ex-nurse. I only quoted that part of the post so that I could give my opinion, and that I am actually in support of Robert's book. Thanks!

AuntieAnn said...

What if it isnt what it is...?

I say we turn the whole thing over to NASA and all take antibiotics, just in case...
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Dwindle - better yet, lets let Beautiful Mind Kate figure it out. At least it would take her away from abusing her children for a few hours.

Dwindle said...

aggiemom09121416 said... 77
just her her journal..........
oopsie, 'just READ her journal;....

trying to watch football and type at the same time. lol
Hey Dwindle!!! how was the countryside today????
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Stunning! Thank you for asking! We only bought a small block of baby swiss cheese, but we stopped for coffee and went a bit further into town and sat in town square with our coffee. I liked that part a whole lot more than HunnyBunny did, who actually wanted a beer. Sigh.

Angie said...

Here is a conversation, I am sorry to say I overheard. My girlfriend has Bladder Cancer, has had 2 operations, chemo, etc. Then a year with constant re testing and nothing showed up. Last week after the scan, the doctor told my girlfriend that the cancer has spread and she will require more chemotherapy. My girlfriend said to her daughter, RN, real maternity surgical nurse, "I do not want to have cancer again, I want someone else to have it, this isn't fair" and her daughter replied "Mom, it is what it is, we will deal with it as it is diagnosed and with treatment as the doctor's suggested"

A very true story. It is what it is used in the right format means exactly that. Today is Saturday, but I wish it were Sunday and I hear from the kitchen Well, it is what it is. Meaning no matter how much I want it to be another day, it is what it is, Saturday. Only an example, which I hear more of this type of syntax of language among younger people than many of us.

Only word that ever drives me crazy is "whatever" then I want to go stark raving mad like Kate Gosselin with a wooden spoon. lol lol

Dwindle said...

AuntieAnn said... 81
What if it isnt what it is...?

I say we turn the whole thing over to NASA and all take antibiotics, just in case...
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Dwindle - better yet, lets let Beautiful Mind Kate figure it out. At least it would take her away from abusing her children for a few hours.

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Kate? Try to figure something out? Oh, handflap at you, Auntie. She has 'people' for that. She is #muchtoobusyandexhausted for thinking about anything, other than her false eyelashes and how short she can hike her skirt.

aggiemom09121416 said...

Stunning! Thank you for asking! We only bought a small block of baby swiss cheese, but we stopped for coffee and went a bit further into town and sat in town square with our coffee. I liked that part a whole lot more than HunnyBunny did, who actually wanted a beer. Sigh.
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You aren't going to use a wooden spoon on that baby cheese,are you?? do you carry @coffeemate in your car? whaaatt....no pics of clouds or anything?????

Kate is a twit said...

In the book, Robert explains how he got to know Jon, and became friends with him. He then goes on to explain why the book is about Kate.


"All that being said, that’s not why this book is mainly about Kate. There really aren’t too many more things that can be written about Jon. The tabloids, mine included, and countless media outlets and bloggers have dragged him over the coals and through the mud and back, while a lot of the time giving Kate a free pass. Did Jon deserve a lot or most of the criticism and mud slinging that hereceived? Of course he did. He’s received a lot of very bad advice from unscrupulous people and he’s made one bad decision after another since I’ve known him. He got caught up in the excitement of being a ‘celebrity.’ Jon got in bed with the wrong people, perhaps literally and figuratively and he’s paying a heavy price even today. I believe Jon when he says that he was acting out after his behind-closed-doors split with Kate because he got married and took on so much responsibility when he was just 22. He was trying to get back some of what he missed out on.

Meanwhile, Kate Gosselin continued to prance around like a peacock with her head held high - with her bodyguards, her handlers and public relations team, her media trainer, her team of lawyers and her protective network family feeding her a script of talking points for the week - pretending to be mother-of-the-year, fooling millions of people while pursuing her Hollywood lifestyle on the backs of her eight beautiful children. I don’t like that last part."

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 244-247). . Kindle Edition.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Kate's giving a whole dollar to breast cancer?

Dwindle said...

Mel said... 19
Jon has 8 kids depending on him too. Why doesn't he need security?
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He hasnt lost 40 fake pounds. And he has very little expensive fake parts worth protecting.

RonnieandMaggie said...

I ran 3.5 miles this morning in North NJ and it was not that cold. Sheesh.

Ex Nurse said...

cruisin just as fast as I can said...
But if Robert hadn't gone through the trash, he wouldn't have found the journals and we wouldn't have proof of what we had suspected all along. If Kate had not set herself up as a victim in the divorce, had not had a penchant for not telling the truth, had not been so hell bent on fame and fortune at the expense of her children's privacy, and had been a nice person who was pleasant in her dealings with other people, perhaps none of this would have happened. She only has herself to blame
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You know, I actually bought the book. I have been trying to address people's questions about why it is being largely ignored by mainstream media. I think that many of of the debates on this blog comes down to a difference in values. For example, the issue of how Robert obtained the journals brings up the question (at least for me) of "when does the means justify the ends"? I happen to think that tabloid journalists often cross my personal line of human decency and privacy. However, my values also allow me to weigh each instance against other contributing factors. I do love that Kate hoisted herself on her own pitard (and I love  that I get to use this phrase) of her own hubris--I share others' sense of personal vindication and satisfaction in the fact that her own behavior brought about her own downfall. Therefore, in this case, reading this book and participating in discussions that spring from the content, does not conflict with my values. When I weigh it out, I do feel that there is a greater good in exposing her because her single mom persona is fake, fake, fake. She deserves to be called out publicly because she is the one that keeps herself in the public eye. When it comes to child abusers, the more sunshine, the better. 

However, my emotional self, evolved via my vast experience in a pretty dysfunctional family does not allow me to accept the sheer one-sided bias of this book--especially when Robert calls others to task that were much further from the situation than Jon. In marriage, there are always two sides to the equation. We are looking at individual puzzle pieces and trying to force them to fit without really knowing what the completed picture is. I disagree on what that picture is---it is what it is ;-D !

And, finally, my logical mind cannot accept Robert's baseless conclusions, interpretations and opinions which are freely offered up throughout the book, always through an anti-Kate filter.  I have to consider that (as he himself admits) this is a person who is obsessed with bring about the downfall of someone else that is not even in his family. His fast and loose assumptions, presentation of theories as facts and lack of expert analysis all hurt his credibility. That is how I see it and I don't think I am alone. 

I accept that other people do not share my values or opinions--everyone has their own line. It isn't that I think one is better--it is just different and a fact of life. 

Very soon, Kate will take her place in popular culture history, along  with Lorena Bobbit, Joey Buttafuco, Tanya Harding and her merry band of low-lifes--these are her people. She is already a punchline, well on her way to becoming a footnote. 

roxyhelen said...

I heard many of you say that Robert confirms what you've been saying for the past 3 years.Have you considered that he is, in fact telling you what you want to hear? No doubt Kate is a really unfit mother based on everything I saw in their show and during their interviews at various shows but I find it astonishing that you are blindly believing this guy and even more astonishing, that you are throwing money at him.Isn't this the sheeple's attitude towards Kate?

Also, I noticed another behavior similar to that of Kate's supporters: you simply ignore Jon's part in this whole sad story and making excuses for him just like the sheeple do for Kate.

Reading your comments, you truly strike me as haters these days, you cling to and criticize every single word that comes out of Kate's mouth, you make so many assumptions about things you couldn't possibly know, you even criticize her for things you wouldn't criticize someone else for, this blog is so different these days...

Let me just say I don't believe RH is a liar, I think his book holds some truth, Kate obviously hasn't been the kindest mother and yes, I believe she spanked the kids but I also believe Robert could have build the book arround every speculation ever made.You always said things need to be taken with a grain of salt.You seem to have forgotten.

Let me give you one example regarding your exagerated criticism: Kate running marathons. How is she exploiting her kids by running marathons? What is wrong with her not promoting said marathons?Other examples: How is what she wears, how she talks,what quality the pictures of foods she posts on her blog exploiting the kids?

Yeah, I know, you have an answer for each of these questions because you're not the same objective and reasonable people you were 9 months ago.

It would have never occurred to me in the past but now I have to wonder: Do you really believe the children will thank you for trashing their mother 24/7? Do you think they will not be disturbed at the sight of this blog? You have said numerous times(and I fully agree with you) that Kate has 30 fans left.I ask you: Could 30 people keep someone relevant? I don't believe that.I believe it is this sites that mantain her relevant.I also believe this is why she gets invited places nowadays. Inviting Kate to your show is a safe way of ensuring viewers as well as traffic on FB, twitter and websites that promote the show.

Last year I would have been the first to say this blog benefits the Gosselin kids but now..

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

The book wasn't about Jon, it was about Kate. I don't see how that diminishes credibility. I don't care what the commentary says anyway, I care about Kate's own words of which there were plenty.

Sandi said...

TheAustinMartin @Kateplusmy8 If me & @Paige_Kate8fan met&flew to PA next summer...Would U meet with ur two biggest fans? LOL We'd even buy ya lunch! HaHa:)

Milo will be so jealous!

Kate is a twit said...

Admin 87--I meant to point that out when I posted the tweet. The way she tweeted it, it sounded like CC was giving only $1 to SGK, when they were actually donating $1 per entry to the contest.

I wonder how many entries they have received?

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Let me preface this comment by stating that I am not trying to get people to "notice me". That being said, thank you all for your understanding and compassion about my friends death. I especially want to thank the people that stayed up late with me (until I fell asleep!). I appreciate all of the kind words. She was buried today and we gathered afterwards to celebrate her wonderful life that she lived well.

Regarding RH's book. I understand that some people feel that Jon got a free pass, but I honestly don't see it that way. With the whole divorce and everything that happened, Jon was raked over the coals by the media, TLC, and especially Kate. He walked away with basically nothing while she received the majority of the financial gains from the marriage, as well sympathetic press that automatically took her side.

She was on more shows that we can count and was free to bash Jon and yet no one asked her any hard questions, or even questioned her contradictions. Jon just couldn't win with TLC in Kate's pocket.

Therefore, I just don't feel that this book, most of it in Kate's own words, is biased. It's getting out the other side of the story that TLC and Kate kept hidden for so long while they openly trashed Jon.

Anonymous said...

Ex-Nurse. Then we are in agreement on the HCG hormone, and I agree with you that Kate, for the most part is off the public radar. For those of you who have been wondering about the lack of media interest, I don’t believe the one sidedness of the book is a factor, since except for Kate’s fans, and those of you who feel as strongly about Jon’s role in this saga as about Kate’s, I don’t believe too many people care. Besides, exposes are generally one-sided. At this point, Kate is a nobody, and unless she commits a new atrocity, one that is hard to ignore, the media and public are not interested. Just this week I read a scandalous report about Octomom and her children, and the public’s response was a collective shrug. Then there is the fact that the book is not backed by a major publishing house, and that Robert is not a professional writer, and outside of the Gosselin communities, pro and against, Robert is probably not well known. But like the rest of you, I keep waiting for that moment when Kate and karma meet up, and I retain a small hope that this book will give karma a shove.

Rhymes with Witch said...

I wrote this and before I got a chance to post I read comment 86:

Meanwhile, Kate Gosselin continued to prance around like a peacock with her head held high - with her bodyguards, her handlers and public
relations team, her media trainer, her team of lawyers and her protective network family feeding her a script of talking points for
the week - pretending to be mother-of-the-year, fooling millions of people while pursuing her Hollywood lifestyle on the backs of her
eight beautiful children. I don’t like that last part." 86

Jon has been trashed in the rag mags,on blogs and twitter, on national tv (including by his own ex wife) and in what I refer to as a
"tabloidy" book by Al Walentis. Not to mention having been sued by a powerful corporation after attempting to do what was right for his
children and himself. Free Pass? Hardly..

TLC/Discovery is certainly complicit in enabling kk, destroying a marriage and coming close to destroying Jon.

Someone (i.e., RH) was suspicious enough that kk's "Mother of the Year" persona and concerned enough about 8 children that are not his
own, that he went on a mission to find out the truth. What some are calling stalking, I am calling work. I can't imagine the toll it has
taken and is taking on him personally and financially.

Kk was stupid enough to throw personal and damning information written by herself into the trash. She may have delegated this task to one of her helpers, I don't know and it doesn't matter. Trash is trash.

Robert went dumpster diving and came out with what he had been seeking. Proof that kk is a grifting, lying fake who ABUSED her
BABIES and the "family" dogs for not helping HER; not meeting HER needs.

Rorbert Hoffman wrote a book about Kate. He made no claims that it was "fair and balanced." Just that it is about Kate.

Bubbles said...

I am an RN and at the company I work for, we are paid for the hours we work. I am scheduled for (3) 12-hour shifts per week and I am paid for the actual hours, not automatically paid for 40 hours. I know there are some hospitals that do pay 40 hrs pay for 36 hrs work, though, in some areas of the country.

I am a single mom of 4 children and support them on my full time income from nursing, plus some child support. My child support basically is enough to cover my groceries and gas money each month. I receive federal government housing assistance through Section 8 and they pay about half my rent each month.

My children go to public school.
I don't own three vehicles. I'm lucky to have one, which unfortunately I am in debt for.
I don't have any leather sofas or salt water pools in the back yard.
I get my hair done about twice a year, either for free by a family member or inexpensively at the local beauty school.
I have to do my own mani-pedis.
My house is a mess because I never have enough time to get it all done, or if I do have time I am so tired from working that I don't have the energy to do housework.
I only have one washer and dryer, and they belong to my landlord.
I spent $150 on clothes for myself because I've lost 60 lbs and have no winter clothes, and I feel guilty and keep thinking about returning the items.
I haven't bought new scrubs since 2008.

But, guess what? I bought Halloween costumes for my kids, and they will be trick-or-treating on Halloween! I even took off 4 hours of a shift that day in order to be able to go with them (My invitation to be on the View must have gotten lost somewhere.)

My kids play in the neighborhood with ... OTHER children! Without confidentiality agreements!! I let them serve themselves at dinner and eat as much as they want.

My ex lives in another state, about 600 miles away, so not only does he rarely see the kids, I get no help from him with transportation issues or even a break on a weekend once in a while. I only have a few people willing to help out with the kids, and I have to pay them all...even their own grandmother charges me for babysitting.

This is why I hate Kate Gosselin. Even if she was a nice person, she doesn't deserve all the special treatment she's gotten. The fact that she's a horrible person just makes it even worse. It's disgusting how people have given her everything she has ever wanted and she's not appreciative and not satisfied.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Roxy, where is Kate's libel suit if its not true? Moreover given the quality of Robert's writing, I find it impossible to believe he could have imitated Kate's writing style that well. Not to mention the volume of it. No offense but I don't even think anyone here could pull this off, it was too credible.

AuntieAnn said...

Kate obviously hasn't been the kindest mother and yes, I believe she spanked the kids but I also believe Robert could have build the book arround every speculation ever made.
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Spanked the kids? Spanked?!

I'm afraid you've just invalidated your entire post with this one statement.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Bubbles, excellent post. I'm sure you truly can claim exhaustion (unlike another we speak of here). God bless you for all you do for your children, and also for the wonderful example you are setting for them. You are doing the things a true mother does, unlike the fake mother Kate Gosselin portrays.

Angie said...

Love My Grandsons, I did not think you were looking for attention last night. I was here with you, Dwindle had the tea pot on and Njay was jonesing for chocolate, which I had. We were okay. Don't give it another thought. This is a place where I have come with my concerns and we were okay last night, right? Yes we were.

Roxy Helen, I have said what you are saying many times over the recent years while reading rag mags. I think the fact that Jon stopped grifting, felt bad about it, wasn't comfortable with it, that he actually stopped the filming. He tried to pull his children out of this insanity and went up against a Big Corporation. He got drunk, he had sexual relationships (which he probably hadn't had in years with Kate, JMO) and he got stoned and talked to many people who thought they could make money off of him. But within months, months, not years, he was back in Lancaster Cty with his kids and he has worked, had stable relationships and he is there for his kids. Guess who has the money, house, grifting baskets, all the free stuff? Kate. Jon paid any money he got on legal fees, child support and except what he blew on his 4 to 5 month fling, he never had control of any of the money, she did. So, if you have Kate on every TV show crying poor me and lying thru her false teeth about him, the children's father, in order to recreate herself, Jon kept himself out of jail which would have been TLC's next step if he said one word or done anything to keep his kids off of K8. So Kate dragged them around and that is what we saw a maniac and 8 very unhappy children.

Probably that is why most of us give Jon a pass. He did try but you cannot empty the Atlantic Ocean with 1 cup of water at a time, he could do nothing except be there for his kids and try to keep a regular job.

He is going to pay for the rest of his life when his kids ask him "why daddy" "why didn't you stop her from beating me" that is on him.

She is self destructive, we are witnessing that. She is doing her self in and I cannot wait until she is off the air, out of magazines, off of web sites and those children are free from her control entirely. JMO

No offense meant. But we did see Jon fight TLC, have the State Representative try to get a law passed to protect the hourse, health and welfare of reality TV performing children.

Everyone has an opinion. Everyone pays a price with children. If you have small ones, you will see someday even if you think you are perfect.Each child has a different opinion of how you raised them. I do know that.

Formerly Duped said...

Bubbles:

You are awesome!Your kids are very lucky to have you.

Ex-Nurse:

Glad you could use 'hoist by her own petard." love that expression too!

Re: Radar. Lots of negative comments, one by a local resident. Hooray for some backlash.

Angie said...

Really need some time away from the Blog. Ex Nurse, you are right, it becomes obsessive. I just don't want to miss the chapters thanks Aggiemom, you do good.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Yeah, I know, you have an answer for each of these questions because you're not the same objective and reasonable people you were 9 months ago. 91

Nine months ago we had not read in Kate's own words how truly HORRIBLY she has treated her own children. We suspected many things. What she wrote is SO MUCH WORSE. Kate is taking advice from her lawyers not to speak. Fine. But where are her local defenders? Family, friends (not referring to fans).

I don't care about the marathons and anything she does that does not exploit or hurt her children. Spending money that her children
earned on herself pisses me off, however.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Angie, hon, thank you. You are so sweet and kind, as well as insightful in your posts. I agree with everything you said - TLC and Kate dragged Jon around by a ring in his nose and he tried to help his kids, he just didn't have the money or the power.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Ex nurse, what do you think of Kate's own words??

Angie said...

Bubbles, being a Real Mother is hard work. That is why we have Mother's Day. No work harder than that of a Mother and one who loves and cares about her children the way you do will be rewarded. Either your children will amaze you with their tenacity to work like you do and be good parents or they will win the lottery! lol lol. Keep the clothes, congrats on the 60 lbs.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Ex nurse I'm trying to understand. What does tabloid tactics have to do with this info? The fact is, the info is now out there. The ethics, who's, how's and whys are a separate issue that's already been disscused at length and will continue to be discussed. You seem to be confusing the two, which in my opinion is distracting from Kate's terrible behavior.

aggiemom09121416 said...

Roxy:

“Collin decided to pour the beans all over the floor while I was inside peeling potatoes, so the girls told me and I sent all the offenders inside. Well Collin didn’t like that I sent him in and when I was out in the garage, I heard three large bangs… I went inside and three highchairs were on the floor literally. I was instantly so SO angry, that I grabbed him and spanked him as hard as I could and thought I may seriously injure him so I sent him to his crib…. And whipped him into it very hard! I for the first time thought I may really lose it and am glad that I just let him in his crib til Jon came home! I have never felt that I may really seriously injure a child but today was that day!

and I really REALLY lost it! I pulled Collin up by the hair and I spanked them so hard!!! I love them so much but I was so very angry with them! I put them back in their beds for their safety

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 7523-7525). . Kindle Edition.

I rest my case.

LaLaLandNoMore said...

Bubbles, you sound like a wonderful mother to your 4 children. You are all that Kate has tried to make us believe she is and more. God bless you and your children with a wonderful, healthy, and fulfilling life. Thank you for sharing your post. Better to be working hard and be real for your children, than to be phoney and plastic and exploiting your children for wealth and fame.

anger issues kate said...

Let's throw tomates: Nobu: serves kobe steaks there.

boo said...

ExNurse, you make some good points, but strip away all of Robert's commentary and conclusions and read only the emails and journal entries in the book, and it's one ugly picture. I've heard many people criticize how he may have obtained this material, but no one is challenging its authenticity. She knows she's toast this time. Even true stars are usually gone forever once they fade away. She was D-list at her best. A comeback for the likes of her as she ages and alienates -- it eill never happen.

anger issues kate said...

Formerly duped: Kate crafty: as in arts & craft? Since when? Wasn't there several episodes, where Kate was to do projects with kids and guests, and Kate could not do them. And how she displays food that she has cooked, and decorated the xmas tree. (that really was a fashionable tree: with lights haftway, and no ornaments), just a poinsetta. Yea, real decorating and craft there? LOLOLOL

The only crafts Kate knows is lying, cheating & grifting. Those are her crafts. Kates house would not look the way it does now, if TLC had not brought in a decorator. We saw Kate way of decorating from the first house. If you notice in any of the K8, the house is in museum stage.

Mel said...

What did Kate do to promote breast cancer awareness?

She (or someone using her account) tweeted once
She possibly ran the race
She had her fake boobs inflated so people would notice them
She was paid to participate in the event

She did not:
Pay her own entrance fee
Solicit donations
Donate anything herself
Pay her own hotel, food, or bodyguard
Pay for her own running gear
Pay for her hair, make-up

mscatie said...

What's even more frightening is that Kate's journals contain only what she was willing to put on paper. I have to believe there are abusive episodes that weren't recorded.

I wonder how many times she DID lose control and how much pain and suffering has been inflicted on those children.

Mel said...

Dwindle and Auntie Ann....you two are hysterical together!

Don't touch it and take antibiotics. hahaha.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Disclaimer. I missed out on the book by a few hours, but found this posted. Prosperity gospel indeed.

"I feel God urging me to quit and ‘live fully on faith’ instead of just down and living on less! I am working through it and really really desire to be able to do this! Lord help me to let go and let you handle our finances totally!”

“God provided this series and this amount of money possibly so that I can be home with the kids til they are in kindergarten!!!!! The thought excites me so much! Just thinking that I won’t have to go to work is soooo amazing! I am going to continue to pray about it and in the meantime, I will make plans to decrease my work schedule! Thank you Lord for your provisions!”

“So we shall see if God provides the funds"

“we feel that we need to look into the whole Lancaster Country Day situation for the girls. I am praying that God works out a scholarship
for them to attend. We are praying that they get in and that mainly we can afford the part that we need to pay! Keep praying… if it is God’s will, then they will get in!!!!!!!”

“Overall, I am not shocked with a second season coming, but am amazed at God’s provisions and the way He has decided to go about it! Thank
you Lord again and again! You alone are worthy of our praises!!!!!!”

“So relieved! Eight kids dentistry free! That’s another miracle from the Lord"

(p.s. if someone who has the book and finds that the above is not in it, I take responsibility for my mistake).

butterfly said...

Bubbles said... 98
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You go girl!! And I agree, keep the clothes.
My house is a mess, too, because I am very busy and I juggle my time and I guess if I didnt want any 'me' time, I could tidy up-but I choose all the other, more important tasks (to clarify, messy, yes- dirty, no. I do clean, I just dont pick up).
I also had to pay my mom to watch my kid. So I know how that feels. But I wasnt receiving child support. I deployed, left my kid with my mom, and I had to pay a monthly support to her while her father paid nothing! UGH! And I couldnt do anything because I was VA, and the CS was ordered out of CA, so I was screwed. Well, anyway, you keep doing your best and it will pay off. You ROCK!

Formerly Duped said...

anger issues:

yup, snark. Kate's crafts are also craft services food.

butterfly said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 118
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All of that disgusted me to no end. Please enlighten this atheist- is god a lender? an atm? a money tree or the rich uncle that died who know one knew and left a huge inheritance? Does 'god will provide' mean MONEY? Cuz if this is the case, I may just start 'believing' and get me some of that cold hard cash!

anger issues kate said...

Bubbles & Butterfly: I just got done de-dog hairing my house. Took 3 days. I did regular vacuuming, but had used a fan and did not vacuum the corners and the dog hair was blown in 2 of the corners and a little else where. Man, a half a shop-vac full of dog hair. Enough to make several little dogs. It's amazing that much hair came off those dogs. And yes I did comb and brush them, almost everyday. Nothing wrong with a little messy home, a messy house is where Kate lives.

butterfly said...

My take on 'it is what it is' because I use this myself. I use for instances that are out of our control, such one's next set of orders or a deployment in the military- "Honey, I am going to Afghanistan" well, it is what it is. Or the weather- maybe it rains on the day of the company picnic- it is what it is. Out of our control. You choose your reaction to it.
SO it's not such a bad expression. I think maybe people over use it or even misuse it.

anger issues kate said...

Butterfly: Kate was using God in vain. That is her way of justifying, her grifting and freebees. God had nothing to do with her getting, free stuff, free funiture, cars, cribs, clothes etc. That was not God's doing, that was TLC's. Kate took this phrase to heart: God only helps those who help themselves. But, I don't think, that is what God had in mind of what Kate has been doing and continues to do.

Barb In Nebraska said...

Another part of her interview is gnawing at my craw, Kate says she has several good friends that would die for her. Really? I too have several good friends, but I don't know if they would die for me. That is just so over the top!

butterfly said...

anger issues kate said... 122
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LOL- a deep vaccuum is on my to-do list for tomorrow. My dog just finished a round of shedding (I dont know how this dog isnt bald!!)

Oh, and washing all her doggy blankets and de-hair those! Whew. Fall cleaning - love it.

anger issues kate said...

Butterfly: I think Kate uses that phrase as of a way of not explaining something. Like the divorce: it is what it is, then she does not have to explain.

AuntieAnn said...

Mel said... 117

Dwindle and Auntie Ann....you two are hysterical together!

Don't touch it and take antibiotics. hahaha.
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Aw, Mel thanks, but the credit goes to PatK and Dwindle, and I agree they ARE hysterical!
:o)

AuntieAnn said...

It irks me when people say that this blog or that blog is the reason Kate is still relevant. She puts herself out there and keeps herself out there with the help of her agent, her lawyers and her managers. She's not good at it but she does it. I'm sure as hell not going to take responsibility for Kate's decision to be a fame whore. The kids will have to deal with their mother, not with the internet, when they read about her. Rest assured if and when they ever approach her about the way she exposed their lives to the public, she will say she did it all for them and walk away feeling satisfied that that is the only answer they'll ever need to hear.

Rhymes with Witch said...

What's even more frightening is that Kate's journals contain only what
she was willing to put on paper 116

Excellent point.

For as long as I have thought that Kate should have thanked God that all her children were healthy, now I believe that all of us should
too. If this is how she "coped" with "normal" child development, imagine how she would not have coped with a child with special needs.
A VERY frightening thought.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Butterfly 118

As a Lutheran with friends of many faiths, lapsed faiths, agnostics and atheists, I do not personally know anyone who subscribes to the
prosperity gospel and am therefore unable to answer your question.(No snark intended, except toward kk).

butterfly said...

Katie Cry-duh said... 45
I ran a 10k in 55 minutes, too. But that was with almost no training. I wasnt out there running 5-10 miles a day, 4-5 times a week, as Kate claims she does. No way do I believe she runs much at all, unless a pap has agreed to photograph it. And hell no, she did not run that marathon in Vegas.
_________________________________________
Kate's 9 min pace seems pretty decent to me. My 10K time is an hour and half (yep!!) cuz my pace is, on average, 13:30 and I am active duty. But I know a lot of other runners and anything under 10 is considered good. If she actually traned, for real, like Fartletts and speed work, she could probably get down to 8:00 or maybe even sub 8. But her pace isnt all that bad for a recreational runner. I wish I could be that fast.

Paula said...

@roxy, the Gosselin kids are not allowed to google, so how do you think they would find this blog? Just asking....

butterfly said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 131
Butterfly 118

As a Lutheran with friends of many faiths, lapsed faiths, agnostics and atheists, I do not personally know anyone who subscribes to the
prosperity gospel and am therefore unable to answer your question.(No snark intended, except toward kk).
_____________________________________
Dang it- guess that means I still have to get up and go to work on Monday. :)

Kate is a twit said...

AuntieAnn said... 129

I'm paraphrasing here, but didn't Kate say in one of the AH clips something like she tells the kids she will explain it to them when they are adults, or something like that? That's just telling them "you wouldn't understand now-wait until you're older. You'll get it then".

That to me was a major cop-out. It's like telling kids "You don't need to know anything about sex until you're an adult".

It's just another way of her avoiding the questions.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Dang it- guess that means I still have to get up and go to work on Monday. :) 134

Sigh, so do I and many others here. :)

p.s. no offense meant, but back in the day the term Jesus Freak was common. Some that I knew would say things like: "I don't have to study, if Jesus wants me to pass this test He will help me."

I am not making this up, nor did I ever subscribe to it. Nonetheless it happened.
Sounds a lot like the prosperity gospel too me.
(sheeple, just google it!)

Kate is a twit said...

butterfly said... 132

Yes, Kate's 9:00 minute pace is decent. But for all the bragging she's done about her running, you would think she'd improve. She bragged about how her pace in SD was close to an 8 minute mile, when it was actually closer to 8:58.

Most runners try to set a Personal Record with each run. IMO, she is a recreational runner, but she is trying to make the public believe that she is a serious runner, and that's why I have a problem with her time and her pace.

butterfly said...

Rhymes with witch,
Thanks for explaining. I attend a Catholic university (a very nice school I must say) and I never heard of this prosperity gospel. All new to me.

Kate is a twit,
yep- KK is most def a recreational runner, maybe 'reluctant runner' is more accurate, LOL!!

Kate is a twit said...

I guess Milo and Kate aren't as close as Milo states. She couldn't even find Kate's time(probably due to the misspelling of Gosselin). One of the non-fans actually tweeted it for her.

miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Kate...was ur bib #...just plain 8...or 08...008...LOL tryin 2get ur official time 4U! :)

Kate is a twit said...

butterfly--the one thing about Kate's running is that she is all over the place with the lengths of the races she runs. She's run one marathan(cough), one half, one 7.1 mi race, two 5K, and now a 10K(in that order).

Most runners start with shorter races and build themselves up to run longer races. Not Kate.

My daughter may be considered a "recreational" runner because it's not her main goal in life--raising her children is. But she started out with 5k's, advanced to 10k's, and ran her first half this summer. She is running the NYC marathon in 3 weeks, and then she says she is done, other than fun races such as the Spartan Races and just to run to keep in shape. She had a goal, and she stuck to it.

Kate's running is just another promotion opportunity for her--it has nothing to do with serious running.

Dwindle said...

roxyhelen said... 91
I heard many of you say that Robert confirms what you've been saying for the past 3 years
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I have seen your name many times on this blog and I, for one, welcome your opinion. I comprehend all of what you are saying, but I dont agree with all of it.

Kate Gosselin is all that is wrong and disgusting about the gross state of reality TV. She helped drive it down to the slime swamp that it is today. English speaking folks on this planet that line up for these circus freaks and subhuman dribbling abberations are right there at the bottom of the human cesspool with kate. I think a great deal of our disdain for her comes from our horror at what is happening to the very DNA of the human species - rejoicing and celebrating mentally ill monsters who beat their own babies and then show their cleavage and cootchies for a payday on TeeVee.

I dont know what else to do about it. Legislation went virturally nowhere. Attempts to make her viciousness and evil known are being swept under the rug. The 150 of us picketing her house will get nowhere. So we snark. Or are we just to roll over and play dead and let it continue without comment other than 'tsk tsk'?

The more enraged we become the nastier we get. I might give ya that one. I think it is part of horror and frustration.

Dwindle said...

Does anyone have any chocolate?

fidosmommy said...

I've only read part of the comments, so hope I'm on track here.

RE: Mr. Hoffman's book. It is not called "How Jon and Kate Gosselin Fooled the World", it's about Kate and her lies and her personal journal. If there is a need to write a book about Jon and his missteps, his involvement in the mess, then another book should be written.

Our Admin tells us all the time this is her blog and she alone decides what will be on it.
Well, that is Robert's book and he wrote it the way he wanted.

I agree there is way too much personal commentary in it. I would have preferred it to be less pushy as to how I'm supposed to feel.

However, the fact that he left the Jon story for someone else to tell is fine with me. Al
Walentis bashed Jon in his book. It's still available at Amazon for anyone interested in reading about the imperfect Jon Gosselin.

JON was not Robert's focus as much as some want him to be. KATE was Robert's focus. Kate as seen through her own journal entries and emails.

readerlady said...

My Dad always said that you should pray as if it's all up to God and work as if it's all up to you. I can't explain the prosperity gospel to you either, Butterfly. Seems to me to be a perversion of the Gospels. KyPastor -- Do you have any input for us?

Roxyhelen -- Most of us do not give Jon a pass. We've called him out on his stupid behavior and recognize that he had a part in this disaster. However, we also recognize that he is also one of KK's victims. She latched onto a young, immature and unassertive person and dug those claws in deep. However, Jon has a lot of love for his kids and he has tried to do right by them in the past few years. He's lost nearly everything -- his name, his reputation, and his share of the fortune KK made exploiting their children, trying to make things right. Robert's book wasn't written to be an expose of J&K, just of KK. Based on his commentary in the book, he is either the world's most brilliant writer to have created those journals of KK's and yet come off as a pedestrian writer in the comments, or else the book is exactly what he says -- KK's journal and other documents that he found by going through her trash.

Kate is a twit said...

Dwindle said... 142

I have some chocolate covered donuts--will they suffice?

Dwindle said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 131
Butterfly 118

As a Lutheran with friends of many faiths, lapsed faiths, agnostics and atheists, I do not personally know anyone who subscribes to the
prosperity gospel and am therefore unable to answer your question.(No snark intended, except toward kk).
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I am Lutheran too. it is almost the antithesis of what we believe. I try hard not to be aghast and offended by this 'prosperity' philosophy.

Dwindle said...

Kate is a twit said... 145
Dwindle said... 142

I have some chocolate covered donuts--will they suffice?
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Ahhh donuts. It's own sacred food group. Pass me a couple?

granny said...

Sick after reading Robert's book. Then I read about Lance and how he enticed these young men who loved to ride into doping so he could win races. Disgusting.

Hate the term, "Have a good day."

PatK said...

In perusing the tweeting over the last few days, I've noticed how much more viscious the fans have become since the book came out. There are several formerly laid back fans who never used to bother arguing with the "haters", who are now jumping in and saying things that up until now seemed out of the ordinary for them.

It's really bizarre.

Just an observation.

Kate is a twit said...

Dwindle--I'll trade you 2 chocolate covered donuts for 2 cups of Rumspringa. Deal?

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Dwindle, it's okay to be offended and aghast at the prosperity gospel because it is not biblical. It is how some TV evangelists twisted God words. By the way, I am an evangelical Christian, and I am appalled by the preachings of some of these so called TV evangelists.

If someone really wants to, they can pick out one phrase anywhere in the bible to justify the bad things that they do. However, God wants us to take the bible as a whole, and then you can see His true meaning.

Okay, off my soapbox now.

Barb In Nebraska said...

Granny, it's have a gr8t day, isn't it?

Also, I've learned to hate signatures at the end of emails like....

Sent from my 4th pink iPhone!

Kate is a twit said...

Kate is again using her enablers to make statements on her behalf. This was retweeted by Kate, the person who read from a book that is titled "Sh*t Girls Say".

Marie‏@MyBorderCollie
While freedom of speech gives us the right to verbally express how we feel, it doesn't give us the right 2 curse & abuse others @Kateplusmy8
Retweeted by Kate Gosselin



PatK said...

Dwindle said... 142
Does anyone have any chocolate?

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My daughter just asked me that awhile ago. I am now in the process of making chocolate chip cookies for her. (She's home from college this weekend.)

koop dedoo said...

Dwindle #142 -

I made some dark chocolate & peanut butter saltines today - would that work for you?

(line saltines edge to edge on a cookie sheet..spread melted chocolate chips on top of the saltines...sprinkle a little Kosher salt on the chocolate...chill until firm...spread melted peanut butter chips on top of the chocolate...chill until firm. Crack into pieces)

Dwindle said...

Kate is a twit said... 150
Dwindle--I'll trade you 2 chocolate covered donuts for 2 cups of Rumspringa. Deal?

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Ohhhh, here ya go!

JudyK said...

Mel said... 19
Jon has 8 kids depending on him too. Why doesn't he need security?
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Because he's just mediocre.

Dwindle said...

Kate is a twit said... 153
Kate is again using her enablers to make statements on her behalf. This was retweeted by Kate, the person who read from a book that is titled "Sh*t Girls Say".

Marie‏@MyBorderCollie
While freedom of speech gives us the right to verbally express how we feel, it doesn't give us the right 2 curse & abuse others @Kateplusmy8
Retweeted by Kate Gosselin
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HOLD THE DAMN PRESSES!!!! Kate is admitting she had and still has no right to scream at and physically abuse children!?????! Amen, there is a God! When does she check into the psych unit?

LoveMyGrandsons said...

koop dedoo, I've never heard of that before with saltines but it sounds great! I'm going to try it, but I will have to use milk chocolate because I am not a dark chocolate lover - too bitter for my tastes.

Dwindle said...

PatK said... 154
Dwindle said... 142
Does anyone have any chocolate?

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My daughter just asked me that awhile ago. I am now in the process of making chocolate chip cookies for her. (She's home from college this weekend.)

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koop dedoo said... 155
Dwindle #142 -

I made some dark chocolate & peanut butter saltines today - would that work for you?

(line saltines edge to edge on a cookie sheet..spread melted chocolate chips on top of the saltines...sprinkle a little Kosher salt on the chocolate...chill until firm...spread melted peanut butter chips on top of the chocolate...chill until firm. Crack into pieces)

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WAAAAAAH! sob, dab tears, quiver lower lip... I have no choco chips... sniffle...

koop dedoo said...

lovemygrandsons #159 - the recipe can go either way...my milk chocolate chips seized up when I melted them this morning, and I was unable to fix it with butter...so I started over with semi-sweet.

I'm all about salt/sweet combined these days, and my kids love them, too.

JudyK said...

VegasBaby said... 34
I HATE the expression it is what it is. What does that even mean? Sounds like one big cop out to me.
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LOL Admin!
I say this all the time.
(I might stop though, if it's now a Kate-ism)
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LOL Vegas! (And my comment is not directed at you.)

I don't see where Adm said that, but it is one of my biggest pet peeves. It is so trite, meaningless, and overused...just a filler for a thought...and as overused as saying "like" all the time...another brainless filler.

Dwindle said...

LoveMyGrandsons said... 151
Dwindle, it's okay to be offended and aghast at the prosperity gospel because it is not biblical. It is how some TV evangelists twisted God words. By the way, I am an evangelical Christian, and I am appalled by the preachings of some of these so called TV evangelists
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Thank you much! The first exposure I ever had to it was to overhear a 'self ordained' preacher ridicule my pastor's car. I was on the board of managers at the time and I knew where every church dime went, including how much (a lot!) of his meager salary our pastor put into... oh never mind. Let's just say we didnt pay him all that much and he wasnt concerned about cadillacs, gold around his neck, or diamonds on his fingers. And for that he was ridiculed for not having enough faith. I just cant get over that.

I am going to leave that alone now, because I dont mean to disagree with the beliefs of others and if that philosophy brings others strength and peace, I dont mean any disrespect.

fidosmommy said...

Well, I feel embarrassed now. My latest post, which I wrote before reading anything much, is almost verbatim what others had already written.
I'm feeling a little like a plagiarist right about now. I will give myself 10 minutes off the computer for my punishment.

Dwindle said...

AuntieAnn said... 128
Mel said... 117

Dwindle and Auntie Ann....you two are hysterical together!

Don't touch it and take antibiotics. hahaha.
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Aw, Mel thanks, but the credit goes to PatK and Dwindle, and I agree they ARE hysterical!
:o)
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Tis true tis true my dears, I am indeed on the verge of HYSTERIA OVER HERE IF I DONT GET SOME DAMN CHOCOLATE!!!!

Alright, that does it, I am heading over to the box o wine... Desperate times, desperate measures.

Dwindle said...

fidosmommy said... 164
Well, I feel embarrassed now. My latest post, which I wrote before reading anything much, is almost verbatim what others had already written.
I'm feeling a little like a plagiarist right about now. I will give myself 10 minutes off the computer for my punishment.
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Oh well that is just great. While you take 10 with your feet up and your own personal Skeevie serving your choco something, the rest of us have to sit her in time out without you!

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Dwindle, it's okay to disagree with the belief that others have. After all, Kate has the belief that it was in her childrens best interest to film them for all of those years!

Dwindle said...

Flight of the Kiwi!!!! Listened to Click and Clack today on NPR and some guy was building an airplane out of a Miata in his garage and was asking the fellas if he should spend 25K for a proper plane engine or could he get away with some kind of Subaru car engine. Made me think of Mr Kiwi! LOL! No mention of adding in a 1970's recliner...

JudyK said...

Ex Nurse said... 90

"...She is already a punchline, well on her way to becoming a footnote."

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Now here's a saying (and an original one) that I LOVE!

Dwindle said...

LoveMyGrandsons said... 167
Dwindle, it's okay to disagree with the belief that others have. After all, Kate has the belief that it was in her childrens best interest to film them for all of those years!
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Well, yeah, but she's nuts. So...

Years ago, true story, I had a client that used to dash out into the middle of a downtown main street and postion himself on his hands and knees and bark at the buses. Doesnt make a valid lifestyle. In fact it doesnt make it anything less than just nuts.

Sorry Jeff but that was just nuts.

And noooooo, he didnt automatically end up in the hospital being medicated against his will. There was a quite a court debate over whether or not he was a danger to himself (which is his right!) or others... sigh.

Dwindle said...

JudyK said... 169
Ex Nurse said... 90

"...She is already a punchline, well on her way to becoming a footnote."

_______________________________

Now here's a saying (and an original one) that I LOVE!


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How is it she isnt a medical school case study?

AuntieAnn said...

Kate is a twit said... 135

AuntieAnn said... 129

I'm paraphrasing here, but didn't Kate say in one of the AH clips something like she tells the kids she will explain it to them when they are adults, or something like that? That's just telling them "you wouldn't understand now-wait until you're older. You'll get it then".

That to me was a major cop-out. It's like telling kids "You don't need to know anything about sex until you're an adult".

It's just another way of her avoiding the questions.
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Yeah what a brilliant plan. What else is she going to do, follow them to college and destroy all the computers? Take away their cellphones? Have Jon knocked off cuz he might tell them a different story and one closer to the truth?

She'd better start re-thinking what she's going to say because (surprise Kate), they're not going to wait until they reach adulthood to ask.
She really insults her children by saying these things.

AuntieAnn said...

Dwindle said...
Tis true tis true my dears, I am indeed on the verge of HYSTERIA OVER HERE IF I DONT GET SOME DAMN CHOCOLATE!!!!

Alright, that does it, I am heading over to the box o wine... Desperate times, desperate measures.
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Have you tried chocolate wine? ooooooo. so good.

Oh and this year at Christmas I'm going to try Bailey's Caramilk Cream. I'm not giving up Bailey's Irish cream though.

Dwindle said...

Angie said... 102
Love My Grandsons, I did not think you were looking for attention last night. I was here with you, Dwindle had the tea pot on and Njay was jonesing for chocolate, which I had. We were okay. Don't give it another thought. This is a place where I have come with my concerns and we were okay last night, right? Yes we were.
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It was a nice little middle-of-the-night gathering. Till the regular stalker showed up; she doesnt realize her 'tells' are loud and clear. Goodies and tea last night and a few minutes of handholding. I thought it was so nice!

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Well, yeah, Dwindle, you are right: Kate is nuts, but so are some of those TV preachers.

Just my opinion, folks.

KathyB said...

You know I feel for Robert. Searching back on his wife's column for the Reading Eagle and from a few comments in the book, they were already disgusted with Kate's whining, complaining and crying "poor" back in 2005. From the comments attached to her column, so were a lot of people in PA. This was written when Kate was trying to extend the state-paid nurse for another year. It's no wonder Robert came off with a bit of attitude toward Kate. Many knew then that she was a pain in the ass BEFORE they got the show!

Dwindle said...

Bubbles said... 98
I am an RN
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Bubbles, I have been there, i swear I have. One foot in front of the other, friend. You are doing it.

I admire you more than I can say.

readerlady said...

koop -- Ooooohh! Those sound good. I LOVE bittersweet chocolate. The darker the better, is my motto (Have you tried 90% cacao chocolate? It is to die for!). Unfortunately, I'm allergic to peanuts. Wonder how they'd taste with butterscotch chips instead?

Dwindle, it's your fault! I was doing fine,minding my own business and trying to fit a large greyhound into my lap while reading on my laptop. Now I've got a major chocolate craving, and not a drop of chocolate in the house!

Mel said...

From one of Milo's tweets...
t that? Kate has a job...numerous employment venues every mo.
When someone asked what they were, Milo responded with: I would not DARE 2tell U what all Kate did 4employment! U'd be off & runnin, harassing every place she got a check!

She forgot to leave the "g" off harrassing. :-)

Hmmm, *numerous* employment venues every month. Like what? How come we never see her at any of them? Is she a secret agent or something? Maybe she works undercover for the CIA? Or the FBI?
That must be it.

You know, a job where her safety isn't at risk.

Maybe corps (snark) pay her NOT to go near them?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Lol Mel. That is utter nonsense. Nearly everything Kate ever does eventually gets out, like that infomercial she did. She can't hide it.

And the reality is she has done virtually nothing in six months.

White Organza said...

That is sooo strange. I never eat chocolate. Never. I'm not supposed to. And yet, the night Dwindle asked out of nowhere if anybody has chocolate, here I am with a king size Reese's "Big Cup" (or, I guess, "Reese's good bra", depending on your degree of gullibility). Like I said: I'm NOT supposed to eat chocolate. I don't know why I even bought that. And Dwindle's question made me jump, feeling guilty of... I don't know what exactly, but to make up for it, I'll share!

PatK said...

Does Kate really inform Milo of every "job" she has? Really??

And White Organza, unless eating that chocolate is dangerous to your immediate health, I say go for it and enjoy! You only live once.

Kate is a twit said...

I've noticed that whenever a new "fan" shows up on Kate's twitter they usually say what a great mom she is and show their undying suport.

Yet, they ask questions like how old are the kids, what grade they're in, etc. etc.

If you were a fan of Kate's, wouldn't you already know this stuff?

I'm NOT a fan of Kate's and "I" know this stuff.

It just makes me wonder about the new followers that Kate amasses. They're not following Kate because she is Kate. They are following her because she is a "stah" in their minds.

Rhymes with Witch said...

That is sooo strange. I never eat chocolate. Never. I'm not supposed to. And yet, the night Dwindle asked out of nowhere if anybody has chocolate, here I am with a king size Reese's "Big Cup" (or, I guess, "Reese's good bra", depending on your degree of gullibility). 181

Dwindle, most of us have known for a while that you are "trouble." I hope you are pleased with yourself.

I know that I am THRILLED that you are among us. :)

W,O. thanks for the laugh.

fidosmommy said...

Has Kate's infomercial for the AbChamp ever been on TV? I've never seen it and I am up at all hours of the night with the TV on. I've seen no less than a dozen infomercials for other
exercise/toning products and videos. Not that I sit and watch them, mind you, but when they come on, I do notice what they are.

PatK said...

I am 'tireder' than tired...I had an early cold fast running day-I loved it! I need sleep so I have 'mom power' for more fun stuff ahead!GN!

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Yes, Kate, keep reminding everyone you are a mom. Actually, that's pretty much ALL you have going for you these days, isn't it? Your coupon gig is a big joke, and a lot of people run.

What else ya got there, Katie?

fidosmommy said...

Kate is a twit, maybe they're not fans.

Maybe they know it's best to enter these things very gently, asking innocent questions, building up trust, acting like a new fan....then, very slowly, start pushing her buttons gently. I'm sure we've all seen it happen; it's even happened on this blog with some of our drivebys.

Just a thought.

Kristine said...

Confession: I was reading the late-night posts here yesterday, while in bed. (Not lurking- I only post here on my PC. Although, I love lurkers.) Angie, Dwindle and LoveMyGrandsons might be the most sympathetic ears, I have encountered on any Blog. True empathy... and I was moved.

I mentioned my step-father, of 25+ years had passed away here, this past Spring. I never had the opportunity to read all of the responses. I was visiting my (real) father, and trying to keep my mind on other things when possible.

Just know that I appreciated it, and thank you!

Also... #KateIsAcrazyLyingBitch

Where the hell is Shoka ?

foxy said...

Readerlady 178. The butterscotch chips works quite well. I prefer them to the peanut butter. Go for it and enjoy.

NJGal51 said...

Kaye tweeted: I am 'tireder' than tired...I had an early cold fast running day-I loved it! II need sleep so I have 'mom power' for more fun stuff ahead!GN!
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Hold on now, doesn't Kate routinely run more than 10k on an almost daily basis and isn't her normal time faster than her posted time today? Doesn't Kate get up at around 0530 at least 5 days a week to get the kids ready for school? Doesn't Kate live in PA where winters can be brutal and she runs in the cold for long distances with amazing times? Hasnt kate said she prefers to run when it's cooler? If you answered yes to most, if not all, of these questions than the run
today should have been a piece of cake for a seasoned runner such as Kate, unless she has been lying about all of the above. I'm tired but apparently not as tired as Kate since i have time to read and post. All we did today was a full day of yard work getting ready to winterize and prepare to plant our winter garden. Tomorrow morning we'll do the same for a 94 year old while she is at church. And Monday we'll get up at 0523 to start another work week. Yes Kate I'm tired too as are all moms, wives, etc. However we don't complain or whine nearly as much as you. We just keep on keepin' on.

White Organza said...

Gee, thanks, PatK, for the "go ahead, have your ME time". (Sounds like somebody we know, huh? Sheesh... I'm all over the place tonight!) But now, I crave Koop dedoo's chocolate saltines. Never heard of those before. Now, wow, I would sell some of my blood to get my hands on some. Good thing is: my Reese's big cup is still unopened.

fidosmommy said...

A dear lady at church makes these remarkable
graham cracker/toffee/nuts cookie that is one of my very favorites. The main ingredients are plain graham crackers (she swears that you HAVE to use Keebler, others don't work as well - ??), brown sugar, butter and broken pecans.
You cook up the toffee, spread it on grahams that are lined on a cookie sheet - great use for parchment paper - and baked for a few minutes. When they are cooked and still hot, you put the nuts on top.

I love anything caramel or toffee. These were a huge hit with me. She brings them to every church supper.

Sweet Tart said...

To Bubbles: You sound like a wonderful hard-working mom.

If anyone believes they could do a more even-handed expose of jon & kate, then maybe they should give it a whirl. I have always found Kate to be the worst of those two and reading her own words has convinced me she is mentally ill and cruel in the extreme. Nothing Jon has ever done comes close to the every day vile that is Kate Krieder.

The prosperity "gospel" is so removed from biblical teachings, I don't know how anyone can preach with a straight face.

Sweet Tart said...

I thought PatK's remark to White Organza was cheerful and well meant. I was surprised by the seemingly snippy response.

Angie said...

Mjay, lol lol lol lol that is a good one. Or maybe that tanning bed and not eating and drinking too much alcohol does something to her running like she did in Vegas.Didn't she run 25 miles or something in 20 minutes? I can't remember, she just consistently excels, lol lol lol lol lol

She was on a scooter, right? lol lol lol

Boy ROL is doing a number on her on every subject but are just stopping before they get to the accusations. But Robert is quoted as having reported Kate to CPS. You rock Robert. Good for you.

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Kate is a twit said...

NJGal51 said... 190
Kaye tweeted: I am 'tireder' than tired...I had an early cold fast running day-I loved it! II need sleep so I have 'mom power' for more fun stuff ahead!GN!
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My interpretation of this tweet:

"I got up earlier than earlier, because I had to be in Brooklyn for a 7:30 start. It was cold(40 degrees) but Steve and I rode in a heated limo to the race start(I don't do subways). When I got out of the limo, brr, it was cold. But I love running and did my best, although I forgot to check the weather, and had to run out and get some pants so I wouldn't freeze.

Yes, I'm tired--wouldn't you be? I ran 6.2 miles today--understand? That's a LONG way!

I partied too much and I need sleep really bad. Darn, after a few days in NYC, now I have to return home and pretend to be the "Mom" people expect me to be. It's soooo Hard!!!


White Organza said...

Sweet Tart said... 194
I thought PatK's remark to White Organza was cheerful and well meant. I was surprised by the seemingly snippy response.

Ooops! Sorry. My french is showing again, I guess. I was not trying to be snippy. Langage barrier again. Some things just do not translate well, I suppose. That's is one of the reasons I don't post often: I'm always afraid to offend some of the nice posters here.

KathyB said...

It didn't sound snippy to me, but I took French in school.

franky said...

Just had a great convo about suicide with dd...thanks for posting..whomever did originally=)

We talked for 2 hrs..and SH3'S 15!!!!

seriously..she doesn't want to go for black-belt..apparently boxing sounds goog..I said I would book it

As for Amanda Todd..unfortunately trending on utube..even frenxh 15 yrlds feel for her..may this never be repeated please ..ràstafafi

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