Thursday, April 14, 2011

Ratings hit all time low: Australia zoo

No matter how you spin it, the ratings just keep falling. Kate Plus 8 Australia Zoo (TLC, 10pm) - 1.214 million viewers - 0.5/1 A18-49 http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/04/12/monday-cable-ratings-pawn-stars-leads-night-kate-plus-8-even-wwe-raw-being-human-rj-berger-more/89055

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Laurie M. said...

But...but...but Kate is tweeting. Wasn't that supposed to help the ratings?! I hope TLC is planning an exit strategy for this show!

BerksPa said...

I've noticed how Kate is definitely off the radar and I'm not just talking about ROL.
None of the big papers reviewed her show (and I'm talking about entertainment magazines, not the 'submit your own article places' like Examiner and Gather et. al.)

Even her twitter has dwindled off in the past two days. Not just yesterday where she said she was busy but Wed. and Thurs. as well. It's getting old for her, like a bright new shiny toy that's lost it's sparkle. And the minions who are her fans are vulgar to anyone with a dissenting view. It's also disconcerting when you search @kateplusmy8; you not only get Kate's tweets but all the other tweets as well with vulgar language, threats to mess up a person's marriage, etc. It's pretty disgusting to see. I don't think her kids would be proud at all of what some fans are doing on her behalf.
Next weeks ratings should be interesting to see, seeing as how there has been NOTHING in the news regarding this woman and the show.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

C'est la vie.

Kate + 8 has lost its innocence, appeal and the audience has moved on. Their original "brand" idea has soured due to entitlement & greed.

The show will NEVER have the numbers it once had.

Can'tstandKate said...

Now this is more like it...

A steady decine....hope next week goes even lower than this week.

fidosmommy said...

To quote kate ------ yay!!!:)

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Sorry OT but....

No sign of "Twisted Kate" anywhere:

Discovery Communications' Networks Unveil Upfront Slates

http://www.deadline.com/2011/04/discovery-communications-networks-unveil-upfront-slates/

Hippie Chick said...

Admin, can I put my new blog address down so people can come visit it? I don't want to step on toes. It's not A Kate site, although in my last post there is a snippet about Kate. It's mostly about everyday things, like women empowering each other, friends, music, fashion, celebs, family life, random posts...I'm moderating the posts too. I've been wanting to do this awhile, & my only follower is my husband. LOL If it's not OK, that's fine, and again, IT'S NOT A KATE SITE! Thanks for the OT! :)

Westcoaster said...

Perhaps I should alert TLC to the news that we have a new baby koala at the LA Zoo so that they could fly Kate out to name it, and voila a whole new show! She could visit her friends at DWTS, do some shopping, eat at Nobu. Oh, and twit all the way there and back. Nice news about the ratings, it's about time.

Administrator said...

IwannadateKate has posted in the previous thread, or someone claiming to be him.

TLC stinks said...

Not a twitterer, so I don't understand their verification process. From what I read, someone from Twitter actually contacts the account holder? How do they know that they are speaking to the genuine person? And why has TLC removed (this is what I have read) a link on their site for Kate's Twitter account? I thought having a link on a web site was also proof that the account was legit. To me, whether it's Kate or her assistant doing the twatting, it has backfired. The comments are dumb, overkill, and self-serving. It's obviously an attempt by TLC to have her go one-on-one with fans to charge up the ratings on the show. It's not working, TLC. For the first time, I am sensing folks for or against Kate are just plain bored (and that's a good thing for the kids).

Donna said...

Admin, I just noticed the pic of Kate twittering at the top of the page. Hilarious! Thanks for the laugh, I needed it this morning!:)

Administrator said...

Ok this morning I saw that Kate tweeted that six of the kids (why not all eight?) go for a sleepover once a month. She seems to imply that this will be this weekend. When I checked back I can't find this tweet, I think she swiffered it (proof she or someone is telling her stop exposing where the kids are).

It's great if they are having sleepovers, but I had to laugh--that means Kate only has these kids ONE weekend a month. And since she has nannies four days a week, she only has them alone for a total of a few hours after school, ONCE A WEEK, and one weekend a month! Motherhood is HARD!!!!

Vanessa said...

Does staying with their dad constitute a "sleepover"?

TLC stinks said...

David Zurawik, "Z", TV critic at the Baltimore Sun has been quiet of late in regards to Kate. This week he blogged:

"...writing about ridiculous, lying dishonest cable TV performers like Olbermann and Beck got me so pumped up I started thinking about someone else who fits that description: The Great Kate Gosselin. Brace tourself, I am thinking about wading back into the alligator-infested swamp of TLC and Kate Gosselin with a post this week -- and I can feel the slime rising around my ankles already. I thought she was going to disappear like a dust ball under the bed of TV history, but she is still with us. Anyway, thanks and stay tuned.Z"

I am torn about him giving her publicity, but the show is so bad that it needs to be written about. Ignore or not, that is the question!

gotyournumberKate said...

I can see Kate desperately finding a new man to bring into her life specifically for ratings. In my opinion that's what will come next and it's just a matter of time bfore she introduces the world to a boyfriend.

Marie said...

iwannadatekate is probably Kate herself with another twitter account. Seems odd that any self respecting man would open a twitter account under that name and twitter Kate all day. Who does that? Is this a man or a woman? Does this person have a job? It's all just creepy.

And then you have people asking Kate specific questions about the kids. And even worse is the fact that Kate answers them! WTF!

Marie said...

I don't think Z on TV should give her any publicity. No other news outlets are at this point. Let her disppear.

TLC stinks said...

I think the reference to the sleepover is indeed the kids staying with Jon. Referring to it like that leaves the impression that the kids are very popular. Sounds like the tups are going to be with Jon.

I'm not saying that Z would intentially give Kate publicity, but if he starts blogging about it again, the result is giving her attention and thus adding viewship because there will be those who want to watch a sinking ship. The more I think about it, the better it is just to not even comment about her---let the show die a natural death.

Jeanette2010 said...

She is just so unrelatable on so many levels now and the show "jumped the shark" in Alaska. So many of us are struggling right now, and they have her traveling the world like she's filming an episode of Life Styles of the Rich and Famous! She prances around in the latest JC Penny's fashions like she just walked out of Barney's. She runs around rural PA (amish County no less) like she's in Malibu or LA. Seriously, how many times do you have to go FedEX? And unless your Nicole Ritchie or Gwen Stefani wearing Louboutin's or Chanel - The heels just look tacky. Like I said, UNRELATABLE, and frankly UNLIKEABLE.

Hippie Chick said...

Ok...here's my new blog. (Admin, if you don't feel as though you should post this, please feel free not to, again, I do NOT want to step on any toes.) My blog is not an a Gosselin site, but her name did come up in a post. I hope I see some of you there! My posts are moderated & I will try like hell to keep up with them. I JUST started it, & I'm thinking of ways to have weekly features, stuff like that. Enjoy!

It's Jenna Does (so now you all know my real name!)

http://www.jennadoes4u.blogspot.com/

silimom said...

Perhaps Jon & Kate have an agreement where one weekend he takes the tups for an overnight so Kate can have time with just the twins and then he has a weekend where he has just the twins overnight so he can have time with just them as well.

Just my own speculation.

just wondering said...

David Zurawik has been around long enough to understand the pros/cons of the situation and I think we should trust his judgement. I hope nobody trashes him if he does.

mama mia said...

Maybe Z can do a recap on all the family traditions Kate left behind, like husband, church, friends, neighbours, charities, hobbies, passions... was any of it real?

Westcoaster said...

My twitter laugh of the morning, from what could be the dumbest woman ever:

>>Cara is abt two plus inches taller than mady! Totally different builds but best friends :) about 2 hours ago<<

Now if someone could possibly explain the relationship between body build and friendship, I would be so happy. Seriously, tho, another breach and talking about the kids - someone needs a court order ASAP.

no name today said...

I received an email telling me that over at BM's site they are dissecting one of your comments Moose Mania.lol I'm kidding I just went over there and saw that they were doing that but BM said she received and email with your comment in it,you know, she never comes to this site she just keeps receiving this strange emails with copy/paste comments from this site lmao. Man I would totally respect those people a lot more if they had an ounce of honesty and if they lacked the double standards...

Oh well, on a different note(kind of) I am pretty sure ratings will be even lower this Monday and they will probably drop under one million by the time they get to the Phillie footage(you know the one from December 2010) and Tennessee.It's almost over for Kate.

Moose Mania said...

no name today said...

I received an email telling me that over at BM's site they are dissecting one of your comments Moose Mania.lol

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They are going to do this to the wrong person. Fooling around with copyrighted comments might find somebody in a position where they do not want to be! So far these other sites have been lucky, but you can only push your luck so far!

Dana said...

Hippie Chick said...

Admin, can I put my new blog address down so people can come visit it? I don't want to step on toes.

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Hippie Chick, if you have a blog, click on the "comment as" box, and choose "Name/URL".

Put your name in the first box, and then put the URL (that's the web address) of your blog in the second (lower) box.

Then click "Continue" and write and post your comment. Your name will then show up in blue on your comment -- meaning it is a link. When you click on the blue names, they take you to the recorded URL.

People who want to read your blog, or to know more about you, will click, and get to your blog.

No need to post a separate link in a comment (which will usually get you banned anywhere). This is how people invite others to their blogs.

Hope this helps.

AuntieAnn said...

And since she has nannies four days a week, she only has them alone for a total of a few hours after school, ONCE A WEEK, and one weekend a month! Motherhood is HARD!!!!
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The only thing that makes motherhood hard for Kate is keeping her kids out of her hair. They're nothing but a nuisance to her unless she needs them for filming the travelogues.

Denise said...

Another thing about ratings is the expense of production. If you can film in an Italian bakery or a pawn shop and get higher ratings than taking a dozen people half way around the world for 2 weeks - which one are you going to stick with? They are having to offer "sparklies" to get an audience for Kate.

LisaNH said...

Laurie M. said... But...but...but Kate is tweeting. Wasn't that supposed to help the ratings?! I hope TLC is planning an exit strategy for this show!
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LOL!! That was cute!!! I like that post!

Tiny Dancer said...

It looks like she and the twins are going to take the offer of going to Space Camp. One of her Twats posted that he/she could get them into Space Camp. Does Space Camp need the publicity that bad.

fidosmommy said...

If Mady and Cara go to Space Camp I hope they get to do it the way every other kid gets to do it. Just go, learn, enjoy! Space Camp was the dream destination for a kid I knew, and he couldn't say enough great things about the experience. BTW, that "kid" is now a high ranking officer in the Air Force.

Troy Chula Vista said...

Well, the sheeple have nothing to gloat about since the ratings are down so what do they do.. pick on Admin for having Kates tweets at the top. SO WHAT! One site even mocks this blog, but then addZ that's not a bad idea and the other site copies and pastes a comment about Kates tweeting frenzy and mocks this blog as well, WHILE having a link to Kates tweet on her blog.

The Sheeple are dumb as dirt.

Silly Sheep Tweets are for twits said...

My twin 9 year old boys would love to go to space camp. I would sell my left boob to be able to send them to space camp but I'm a real single mother. This summer my boys will be in a local camp that gives us a scholarship because of my financial situation. It's a crappy camp and they don't do much. Glorified daycare, really. Guess what? I'm grateful and lucky that my boys got into this shitty camp so I can go to my job this summer.

Poor little rich kids. Give them more.

Do I sound jealous? You're damn right. Nobody offers to send my boys to space camp because I forgot to pimp them out. Ooops. My mistake.

Westcoaster said...

Anyone want to count tweets this weekend, since the Queen Twit has announced that she is planning to just play and cook with her kids all weekend, sleep in late and have late breakfasts. I imagine the latter is her, just her, try telling the kids they're sleeping and eating late on a Saturday morning.

As for Space Camp, if she is really going to rely on her new internet friend to get her in there (her or the twins, not sure who she really means, but I believe she's a bit old), hope new internet friend is paying. Doubt TLC is footing the bill for anything she arranges on her own, and not after those ratings.

AuntieAnn said...

Troy -- Stupid sheeple don't even know that imitation is the highest form of flattery.

Laurie M said...

Tiny Dancer said... It looks like she and the twins are going to take the offer of going to Space Camp. One of her Twats posted that he/she could get them into Space Camp.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

The Roloff's did that one already a year or two ago. How boring to watch someone ELSE attend Space Camp on tv.

TLC ship is sinking said...

I don't think Z on TV should give her any publicity. No other news outlets are at this point. Let her disppear.
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I agree. No publicity is bad publicity.

If he hasn't covered Kate Plus 8 recently, why start now just as her ratings are declining?

I hope he isn't doing this to attract people to his blog.

I used to follow his blog until the Gosselin coverage dwindled. However, I won't return because some of his loyal readers heckled me on another anti-Gosselin blog for posting a dissenting view of that blogger's actions and lack of integrity on tv. I stopped visiting that blog (because its integrity was compromised) and refuse to visit his blog because of those readers.

Administrator said...

Bingo Denise and imagine extreme couponing. That must be dirt cheap. All they do Is film in homes and at the market. Australia must have cost a hundred times that.

readerlady said...

An example of how a REAL star uses Twitter: Donnie Wahlberg was tweeting to promote his show "Blue Bloods", when one of his fans brought his attention to one of his other fans who was in need of a kidney transplant. She was having difficulty finding a match. Through his tweeting efforts, 3 matches were found for her and she had her kidney transplant last week. See, Kate - THIS is how it is done.

Michelle said...

I see OSHA issued a warning yesterday about Kate's hair treatment. "The alert from the federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) said the Brazilian Blowout Acai Professional Smoothing Solution contained formaldehyde levels greater than federal limits (though it doesn’t say by how much), even in products labeled “formaldehyde free.”

Guess she figures organic food will undo the damage from tanning beds and formaldehyde.

just wondering said...

http://www.spacecamp.com/contact

Space Camp email form

BerksPa said...

Just a heads up. Nina Frye (Living the Dream) will no longer be doing a Gosselin hour. I think that it was a good decision. The less talk about 'her' the better.

Jenna Does said...

Hey guys! This is Hippie Chick!!! (& I'll post back & forth as both, but I'll always sign off or on as Hippie)

Dana...
Thank you. I wasn't sure how it worked. I certainly do NOT want to be banned! I love it here! I'm going to add a new post about books soon.

About Kate's tweet regarding the twins build & how close they are...UM, as someone up thread said, how they are relevant in anyway is beyond me. It's like me saying I love my husband because his eyes are blue/gray & mine are brown, but we are still super-close. How does that matter?? So one of the twins is taller, good, she'll be taller than Kate soon & tower over her & be able to kick her in the ass. Maddy can referee. Does Kate ever THINK before speaking, typing, or hell thinking??

What she needs is what I saw on The Simpson's awhile back. They went into Homer's head when he needed to say something & there were guys there in suits & a long table. They were all scrambling to think of something nice to say to Marge. Kate needs those little men in her head, thinking of the right thing to say. One for each aspect of her life: her kids, her 'friend', the cameras, (though that will be over soon), men, strangers, women, journalists, Steve, oh, this could go on all day.

*Admin, thank you. :)

AuntieAnn said...

G'Day Downunder AFare! from $439*
One-way airfare from New York to Auckland
*One way, based on roundtrip purchase. Economy class fares.
Free stopover in Tahiti.

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....and that's just the first site that came up after googling airfare for a flight to Auzzie.

Multiply that by about 20 (or more?) and that's just the tip of the iceberg. There's hotel accommodations, meals, traveling within the country, etc, etc, etc. Sure TLC makes lots of money off the eight but now that the ratings are taking a dive are they going to continue to invest in this show? No wonder Kate is back to begging. They're going to kiss her ASSets goodbye once the show starts turning into a liability.

Linda G. said...

I was going to start a hash tag trend on Twitter, but decided I didn't want to give her the attention, so I'll do it here. Anyone want to join in? Goes like this:

I'm just a single mom! #KateGosselinLie

All these tweets don't even take that long! #KateGosselinLie

Your turn!

JudyK said...

Westcoaster said... My twitter laugh of the morning, from what could be the dumbest woman ever:

>>Cara is abt two plus inches taller than mady! Totally different builds but best friends :) about 2 hours ago<<

Now if someone could possibly explain the relationship between body build and friendship, I would be so happy. Seriously, tho, another breach and talking about the kids - someone needs a court order ASAP.
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Westcoaster, I had exactly the same reaction you did to the body type/best friend remark--what a MORON.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

What's a hash tag trend?

Is it anything like trash hag?

h8k8 said...

Silly Sheep Tweets are for twits said...
My twin 9 year old boys would love to go to space camp. I would sell my left boob to be able to send them to space camp but I'm a real single mother. This summer my boys will be in a local camp that gives us a scholarship because of my financial situation. It's a crappy camp and they don't do much. Glorified daycare, really. Guess what? I'm grateful and lucky that my boys got into this shitty camp so I can go to my job this summer.

Poor little rich kids. Give them more.

Do I sound jealous? You're damn right. Nobody offers to send my boys to space camp because I forgot to pimp them out. Ooops. My mistake.
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I don't blame you and agree with you.
Tweet huntsvillewrite who offered to put Kate in contact with a Space Camp rep and see what they can do for you. He seems very nice and accommodating. Maybe we should all ask to be invited and it can be kind of a convention or something with Kate and the kids.

I'm carrying this over from the previous thread - I didn't know this new one had been started when I posted this earlier. Hope you don't mind, Admin.
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How much more of an explanation does anyone need that Kate doesn't even consider taking her kids anywhere unless it's caught on camera and the kids' exploited?

Someone suggested a few days ago Kate visit Space Camp in Huntsville. Nowhere was it mentioned it be done for the show, but we know where Kate's mind automatically goes and once this guy said they were getting the info together Kate said to contact her manager. FFS, Kate -- do something, ANYTHING with your kids that isn't TLC sponsored!
Here's the back and forth:

huntsvillewrite to @Kateplusmy8
Have you ever thought of bringing your kids to Space Camp in Huntsville, AL? I have a friend there in media relations!

Kateplusmy8 to @huntsvillewrite
Actually, ive resesrched it! it's a dream of two ten yr olds I have-- AND their momma! Bring it on

huntsvillewrite to @Kateplusmy8
I will get in contact with my friend who works in media relations at the Space Center either tomorrow or Friday.

huntsvillewrite to@Kateplusmy8
Once I contact him, I should be able to get it set up so ya'll will be able to come to Space Camp sometime this summer.

huntsvillewrite to Kateplusmy8
Spoke with my contact at U.S. Space and Rocket Center. He will get some information together soon. I will keep you updated

Kateplusmy8 to @huntsvillewrite
Thanks. My mgr info should be able to be found online... They are combed so only legit positive stuff gets to her btw..thx

Linda G. said...

# is a hash tag and it's a way of searching/classifying tweets, if you put a certain one after your tweets.

No regrets said...

"Administrator said... IwannadateKate has posted in the previous thread, or someone claiming to be him."

His post was respectful, and I am not trying to be disrespectful, if that is really him.

Interesting. The comment this blog is "one sided". As opposed to fawning and salivating….oh never mind. LOL You DO realize you will be soundly thrashed/cursed out and maybe even worse for posting on a “haters” site. If a fan can get you fired, they would do that too. Strange bunch that admires Kate. One fan even said that Kate herself calls employers. Imagine that. LOL I wonder if Kate knows they even speak for her. s a wise poster on this blog said “Water reaches it own level”. So appropriate in this world of twittering.

I had 4 paragraphs typed out to MrIwannadate, but I am sure it would fall on deaf ears. So, I deleted it all. I just wonder if he actually even read and comprehended why people are disgusted with Kate? Someone who has already sold their home to relocate for Kate, is not open to much of anything, most likely. Weird things people will do!

Her bucket is leaking said...

AuntieAnn said...
G'Day Downunder AFare! from $439*
One-way airfare from New York to Auckland
*One way, based on roundtrip purchase. Economy class fares.
Free stopover in Tahiti.
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....and that's just the first site that came up after googling airfare for a flight to Auzzie....

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They flew non-stop LA to Sydney. I checked non-stop airfare at Expedia.
Economy was @$1200 pp. = $14,400 for 12
First class was @$20,000 pp. = $240,000 for 12
Business class @$7000 pp. = $84,000 for 12
(12 = 9 family + Steve + 2 sitters)

And, don't forget the Philly to LA leg and then RT Sydney to Auckland, NZ. That was a VERY expensive trip. I wonder how happy TLC is about their decision to cross off that item from Kate's bucket list.

Thankyoufairy said...

Oh, don't ruin Space Camp for me. I remember when they started it...my siblings and I so wanted to go but the closest we came to Space Camp was seeing the movie. I keep saying I'll go to one of their adult sessions but life keeps happening instead.

I can't imagine anyone in media inviting the Gosselins to anything anymore...just look at their previous experiences. They can make something that should be a fun experience and turn it into something not so fun complete with low blood sugar, a screeching mom, at least one child in tears and someone getting sent back to van with the nanny. I always wanted to someone to go back and ask the people at the Crayola place or the bakery where they decorated birthday cupcakes if they were satisfied with the outcome as it aired.

The crazy thing is that Kate G. could easily afford to send the twins to Space Camp without tagging along herself or making it all about a television show.

Nobody Likes a Narcissist said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

What's a hash tag trend?

Is it anything like trash hag?

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OMG, I almost choked to death on a string cheese stick. Good one!!

It's so disgusting how Khate keeps begging for free stuff and free trips. I saw the beginning of that Space Camp exchange the other day. But, thanks for posting the whole conversation, h8k8.

Heaven forbid she actually plan something for her kids on her own. Really, this "mother" doesn't ever even think to do something special with her kids unless TLC sets it all up, makes all the arrangements, and pays for it all. She makes me ill.

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no name today said...

(snip)

Oh well, on a different note(kind of) I am pretty sure ratings will be even lower this Monday and they will probably drop under one million by the time they get to the Phillie footage(you know the one from December 2010) and Tennessee.It's almost over for Kate.

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Yes, I totally agree with your predictions. I’ve been saying lately that the ratings will go even lower for the next show. That’s the last episode featuring the big Australia/New Zealand trip. After that, I think the ratings will decline each week and probably hit under a million in a week or two.

Like others have posted today, this show must have such a high production cost compared to other TLC shows. The mediocre ratings can not possibly be worth it and it’s definitely on its way out. Can’t wait!

Administrator said...

Iwannadate has another post inthe recap thread. He is following the rules, please do the same.

Administrator said...

I don't think those airfares include taxes and fees. Flights to Europe are 400 too until taxes make it 1000. And first class to Sydney would be outrageous.

wayward said...

h8k8 said: ...."Someone suggested a few days ago Kate visit Space Camp in Huntsville. Nowhere was it mentioned it be done for the show, but we know where Kate's mind automatically goes and once this guy said they were getting the info together Kate said to contact her manager. FFS, Kate -- do something, ANYTHING with your kids that isn't TLC sponsored!"
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You make a good point and it got me to thinking, Kate has had someone sponsor her life for the last 15-16 years. From living with the ex-fiance at his parents home, to latching onto Dr. Gosselin's bank account, to manipulating an entire community and church family to not only give her freebies, but high quality matching freebies, to shopping tapes of her babies in hopes of getting a TV gig. Don't forget about how she whined to TWO different reporters that since society created the technology that can result in high order multiple births, society should pay for these children to be raised. After the crap hit the fan, she accused both reporters of misquoting her even though one was in Pittsburgh and one was in Harrisburg.

Kate is right back to doing what she's done for years, using, using, using to get what she wants. The ratings are dipping, so all of a sudden she loooooves :) the fans!!!!! lol! Yet if TLC canceled the show tomorrow, that Twitter feed would come to a screeching halt. And she wasted no time putting those Klovers to work to beg TLC for her for the rest of her bucket list wishes. What pair of cajones that one has, soliciting people who probably haven't had a vacation in the last couple years to beg TLC for her to send her on her 6th or 7th lavish vacation in A YEAR. It's been said many times but I'll say it again- the woman has no shame... none.

TLC ship is sinking said...

h8k8 said...Someone suggested a few days ago Kate visit Space Camp in Huntsville. Nowhere was it mentioned it be done for the show, but we know where Kate's mind automatically goes and once this guy said they were getting the info together Kate said to contact her manager. FFS, Kate -- do something, ANYTHING with your kids that isn't TLC sponsored!
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Kate and her kids have more than enough money to pay for this trip.

It's interesting that Kate said to contact her manager, as if to imply that it would make a great Kate Plus 8 travel trip.

What if Space Camp allows them to visit but denies their request to film for tv? Would Kate nix the trip for the twins?


Thankyoufairy said...I can't imagine anyone in media inviting the Gosselins to anything anymore...just look at their previous experiences. They can make something that should be a fun experience and turn it into something not so fun.
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Just wanted to add to that...

I understand that the show is edited for drama, but I get the feeling that these kids do not fully appreciate or learn much from these 'life experiences'. They've been given all these VIP experiences that it's probably become their normal. What happens when they have to go back to living like other normal kids?

Nobody Likes a Narcissist said...

Admin - Since you watched the episode, I have to ask, did Khate and the kids fly to Australia first class? I can't tell from the comments about the airfare in this thread. However, if I had to guess, I would assume that Khate would insist on first class for such a long flight with all the kids.

Administrator said...

For the flight to LA it looked like they were in coach. Although I think that was a Southwest flight so they don't have first class.

For the flight to Australia, wouldn't you know it they never showed the cabin. What, embarrassed about your excess???

However we know they flew first class because this story was originally broken by some random young girl on Facebook on their flight (yes, it was not broken by JON or Ellen or any of that other spin). She facebooked away that they were all up their in first class on her flight to Sydney. So there you have it.

Administrator said...

Although I have to say, some of us have speculated part of the agreement may have been that Jon insisted the kids fly first class if they were going to be on such a long flight, for their own comfort. On those international flights often you can get a seat that converts to a bed-like structure that is way more comfortable than coach.

url said...

Kart's space camp exchange on twitter and her incessant begging is disgusting. A free trip to space camp, 5 star hotel/meals for herself and TLC can pay her $250,000 to film it. I remember the space camp episode with the Roloff's also. I watched and enjoyed their show prior to it turning into the TLC heavily scripted fake show that it became.

Administrator said...

I want each of her twitter friends to chime in about the last time they went on a trip out of the country, or even out of the state. And yet instead of working hard and saving money and trying to make it help for themselves, they're going to spend time seeing to it Kate gets another monthly trip of a lifetime?

With gas prices approaching five bucks a gallon, the average American is realizing that the days of vacations every summer, with maybe a really big one every few years, are on hold for now. Her greed is unbelievable, not to mention very unattractive.

TLC ship is sinking said...

This discussion about the travel expenses to Australia made me think...

Similar to the Extreme Couponing concept, would you watch a reality show that features multiple jet-setting families that travel on an affordable budget for most middle-class Americans? The show would focus on how to find great deals for the entire family and ways to cut back on spending while having a good experience. It would list the costs for most of the big travel expenses including transportation, hotel, attractions, etc.

I'm not sure if there is a family-oriented travel show that does this already. However, viewers could actually learn something as opposed to watching an ungrateful family get all these free VIP experiences.

Originally I thought about this as a better Kate Plus 8 concept, but I know most of us just want the filming of the kids to stop. Plus most of us are put off by Kate's behavior and actions, especially her sense of entitlement. Changing the concept wouldn't win us back as viewers.

It was just a rambling thought.

Administrator said...

Administrator said... Extreme Couponing has actually had a few somewhat helpful tips. I'm not a big couponer but I'll use the ones that come in the mail from my store. One tip is to use the coupon on the smallest size product you can find. I guess this is a no brainer but I certainly never made this connection. I assumed you buy whatever size has the lowest PER UNIT price. Without a coupon that does indeed make sense. However with a coupon, you can save more percentage wise usually, buying smaller items. After this was explained to me I was sort of like...wow, duh. LOL.

THAT was the draw of Kate Plus 8 originally, little tips and hints like that that a mom was giving who had a big family as she went through her day. That concept has been compeltely lost now. And the irony is, the same concept was started on a new show that smashed Kate in the ratings.

fidosmommy said...

Did TLC use an Australia-based crew for filming?
If not, don't forget the cost of transporting all the production crew to the 12 people flying to AU/NZ. They, of course, would travel economy, if not in the baggage hold. :-)

lalaland said...

For some crazy reason I started to watch Joy Behar's show with Kate and only made it 2 minutes before I cut it off. She actually was trying to say that the paparazzi found them the minute they landed in Sydney (we know it was just some person with a camera phone) and that the kids love their camera crew but hate the paparazzi. Honestly, does she think we think they can tell the difference? Ugh.....done, done done

MontgomeryCounty, PA said...

It truly amazes me how any rational person, especially a parent, could be a fan of Kateplus8 and/or Katie Kreider. Even if the average TV viewer is not aware of her YEARS of grifting and lying, her juvenile, ungrateful, and narcissistic behavior on the show has got to turn their stomachs. She does nothing for her kid’s unless it somehow lines her pocketbook with cash or feeds her over-blown ego.

As we have all witnessed over these past twelve days, she ignores her children in order to receive adulations from her “fans” on Twitter. No one with eight kids has the time to send 1,000 tweets. It’s obvious to anyone with half a brain that those poor kids do not, and have never received, the attention they deserve.

Ps. I’ve been sending her a lot of “love” on Twitter. Some people have stated that she may be blocking people on Twitter. I just checked, and even with all of my lovely, nice, and kind sentiments, I am still not blocked. She is so desperate for Twitter followers, that she has not blocked anyone! Calling all “haters”… LOL

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

She's blocked me! LOL

MCCS Chargers said...

MontgomeryCounty, PA said...

It truly amazes me how any rational person, especially a parent, could be a fan of Kateplus8 and/or Katie Kreider.

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I notice that you always call her Katie Kreider. Did you know her in school, or when she was growing up? We knew her as Katie Kreider, and I'm wondering if you grew up in the area or went to Mount Calvary.

AuntieAnn said...

I think "coupon" is code for "kids". They've been her coupon for everything she's had given to her since she gave birth to them.

MontgomeryCounty, PA said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Just create a new account Tweet-le De - no biggie! Make it private so the rabid fans like "ms2sh!tsforbrains2" don't attack.

I've been tweeting her since she joined. Just checked and I am not blocked. Kreider's desperate, she'll let anyone follow! LOL

Red Sky At Night said...

"I've been tweeting her since she joined. Just checked and I am not blocked. Kreider's desperate, she'll let anyone follow!"

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I guess my question is, why? Why tweet her? Why follow her? Isn't this giving a narcissist exactly what she wants? Why give her the time of day? This is like watching the shows, contributing to the ratings, when, at the same time, we are wishing for her to just go away.

LisaNH said...

Since a few people have posted about Extreme Couponing (I know a little OT LOL), I have to say, I am a regular couponer. So far this year my husband and I have saved about $800 with just coupons. It's fun and it saves us money.

I also belong to a coupon site and I can tell you there is a lot of debate over TLC's Extreme Couponing. The majority of people of the site I belong to feel that it does not show the good side of couponing. TLC's show is not realistic. Regular couponers do not hoard items they will never use but get them because they're free or buy $1,800 worth of groceries for $100.

Also, one of the episodes showed a clear case of coupon fraud (but that is a topic for a different forum).

Yes, a lot of couponers have stockpiles but also a lot of couponers use their couponing skills to help others (i.e. giving items to food banks or care pkg items for the troops etc...)

What I'm trying to say is that TLC is showing couponers as these selfish, greedy, "get what you can for free and keep it all for yourself" type people, so TLC is not above using controversy to gain ratings like with K+8. The more controversy they can stir up the better. But notice how there hasn't been any controversy around Kate lately. So my thought is that TLC is done with Kate. She was their cash cow but at this point interest in her is waning.

MontgomeryCounty, PA said...

Red Sky At Night said...

I am NOT FOLLOWING Kreider on Twitter. You can read and send tweets to someone w/out following them. I cannot "be counted" because I do not follow. I also have not watched her new show and I stopped watching J&K+8 because I didn't think that watching a family dissolve on TV was "entertainment."

Again, sending Kreider "love" tweets from my private Twitter account, without following her, does not in any way show support for. In fact, it does the opposite. However, I will agree that because of her narcissism, my messages may not be getting through! LOL

fidosmommy said...

Lisa in NH, I've watched a couple of episodes of Extreme Couponing. I noticed one EC participant (Nathan) bought something like 1,000 boxes of cereal in their original shipping boxes, put them out on the driveway and waited for the Food Bank people to come get them. The same guy - on an entirely different episode - was getting all sorts of things to send to the troops in Afghanistan. So, TLC is showing the positive side of couponing as well. Yes, Nathan has a stockpile in his garage, but I would not doubt that he
fills a bag full of food and personal hygiene items every week for local food drives.

Some do it simply for the challenge, I think. It's almost like a dare they put themselves to each and every time they shop.

I had no idea of couponing fraud. I would not even know where to start to get involved in that.

I agree with Admin - it was very interesting to watch Kate's organizational skills as she went through her coupons, shopped with coupons in her hand, talked about how they managed when they hit Sam's Club. BTW, I wonder if she has ever gone back there since she hit it big.

I have a good friend who coupons. She can pare down a $130 grocery bill to $13 like a champ
without even blinking.

momof3 said...

I just have to say that Kate's selfishness and grifting is just downright embarassing on her part. You have a woman who practically robbed and frauded church people for thousands of dollars. She finally seems that got what she wanted and is still asking for everyone to foot the bill but herself. Maybe she should pay for someone else' family who is in need to get a break and take a vacation. No wonder Twist of Kate never came off the ground because Kate was supposed to help others. I think we can honestly say, we know this is really beyond Kate. I can't fathom how she can sleep at night and show her face after her lies and all of her selfish acts. Thanks for letting me vent what a true pile of s$#t this woman really is and will probably turn into after the cameras and money are gone.

just wondering said...

I believe that Kate is working overtime on twitter to prove to TLC that she is more popular than ever. I don't think she will block anyone because she will need every single follower she can find. But only 7,000 followers after 1,000 of her own tweets after what, 10 days or so?

She is giving it her best shot, and I bet she will mention it a few times during her next taping, but I don't think this will give TLC the numbers they wanted.

I think it's a frantic shout out to the fans she always deplored.

Red Sky At Night said...

I am NOT FOLLOWING Kreider on Twitter. You can read and send tweets to someone w/out following them. I cannot "be counted" because I do not follow. I also have not watched her new show and I stopped watching J&K+8 because I didn't think that watching a family dissolve on TV was "entertainment."

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That's my whole point. Why even bother to read and send her tweets? For what purpose? I'm not being argumentative. I just don't understand why anyone would bother reading and responding to her nonsense.

MontgomeryCounty, PA said...

Red Sky At Night said...

“That's my whole point. Why even bother to read and send her tweets? For what purpose? I'm not being argumentative. I just don't understand why anyone would bother reading and responding to her nonsense.”
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Red,

I am NOT responding to her tweets. I am simply sending (again, not following - so I'm not being counted!) her, at random times, "inspirational" messages.”

Look, "to each, is own," right? I guess in some way I feel that I can speak-up for the G8 in this way and it just makes me feel good to let her know that she is not fooling anyone.

I am certain that I am not showing Kreider any type of "support" - in any way - that can be quantified by TLC or Figure 8. I am comfortable with that.

JoyinVirginia said...

I just have to post how funny the new improved "twit" caricature at the top of the page is! Whoever did it is terrific!

Denise said...

Looks like TLC spent at least 1$ per viewer last week. I doubt that will last long!!!

E-town Neighbor said...

Montgomery said, "I am NOT responding to her tweets. I am simply sending (again, not following - so I'm not being counted!) her, at random times, "inspirational" messages.”

Look, "to each, is own," right? I guess in some way I feel that I can speak-up for the G8 in this way and it just makes me feel good to let her know that she is not fooling anyone."

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Does anyone believe that she's smart enough to know that she is not fooling anyone? And if she did, would she even care?
I guess Tweeters gotta do what Tweeters gotta do!

Nobody Likes a Narcissist said...

Admin, thanks for the info on the air fare.



just wondering said...

I believe that Kate is working overtime on twitter to prove to TLC that she is more popular than ever. I don't think she will block anyone because she will need every single follower she can find. But only 7,000 followers after 1,000 of her own tweets after what, 10 days or so?

She is giving it her best shot, and I bet she will mention it a few times during her next taping, but I don't think this will give TLC the numbers they wanted.

I think it's a frantic shout out to the fans she always deplored.

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I was just thinking the same thing. It's been 12 days and she is building a sheeple following on Twitter very, very slowly. From what I hear, 7,000 followers is a pitiful number for anyone in reality tv, let alone someone who announced her new Twitter account on the Today Show.

Plus, it's of no importance really because not one single follower on Twitter is a new fan of her show; they're all just devoted sheeple who would have watched anyway. I think Khate is slowly realizing that fact and she will be on Twitter less and less.

Hey, is it me, or did she suddenly start tweeting less right after I posted her twenty (or sixty) questions with her sheeple from the other night? Ha!

Nobody Likes a Narcissist said...

Montgomery - I think it's funny that you're tweeting Khate. Even if your tweets go over her head, or she just ignores them, we know that they are ticking off her devoted sheeple. That alone makes it worth the effort!

E-town Neighbor said...

Admin said: With gas prices approaching five bucks a gallon, the average American is realizing that the days of vacations every summer, with maybe a really big one every few years, are on hold for now.

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Good grief, admin! Don't say that! We're at $3.69 and cursing under our breath!

AuntieAnn said...

We live in an oil-rich province in Canada and we are at $5.36/imp.gal for gas.

I think I'll join the Amish.

Gosselin Gossip said...

LisaNH said...I also belong to a coupon site and I can tell you there is a lot of debate over TLC's Extreme Couponing. The majority of people of the site I belong to feel that it does not show the good side of couponing. TLC's show is not realistic. Regular couponers do not hoard items they will never use but get them because they're free or buy $1,800 worth of groceries for $100.

Also, one of the episodes showed a clear case of coupon fraud (but that is a topic for a different forum).


While looking for articles related to Discovery's 2011 upfronts event, I stumbled upon this one regarding Extreme Couponing.

TLC 'looking into' allegations of coupon fraud on 'Extreme Couponing'

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/04/14/tlc-coupon-fraud-extreme-couponing/

This reminded me about a GWOP post about a famous couponer (?) who was approached to do the original special for Extreme Couponing. So, I visited her site and found out more information about this alleged fraud. Her site isn't the only one in the coupon community reporting this illegal practice.

Was coupon fraud shown on TLC's Extreme Couponing?

http://www.jillcataldo.com/alleged-tlc-extreme-couponing-fraud

Since Extreme Couponing is being discussed, I thought it was important to share information on what is considered coupon fraud as evidenced in TLC's show. I wouldn't want my fellow readers to use the wrong coupon tips as shown in this show.

(Credit to GWOP for the original Coupon special post and link to coupon blogger.)

http://gosselinswithoutpity.blogspot.com/2011/01/off-topic-experiences-with-coupon.html

Sport said...

What a transparent phony she is (shocker I know.)
Look how forced and pathetic her tweets are.

"I did XYZ with the kids blah blah blah."

What a disgusting person. Who buys into her fakeness? I seriously dont get it.

Nobody Likes a Narcissist said...

Check out the last couple of comments in the post below this one. I think "iwanadatekate" has been scared off, ha ha. He/she is a total fraud that I am convinced posted here with another name in another thread right before posting with the "iwana" name. I can definitely spot several things in the posts that convince me it's the same person. Although, the first time he/she posted, the comments were dissing Khate. What a bullsh*tter game player.

JudyK said...

Went back to the other thread to read the post from "Iwanadatekate"...it's Iwana with one "n"--not two the way it keeps getting repeated here--and that's the way it appears on the other thread, so I believe it was the REAL Iwana who posted on that thread. Also, the writing style is the same as on Kate's twitter site. He WAS very respectful in his post, and that's appreciated. Grammar IS important, but not in emails or particularly in blogs; however, I do want to point one thing out. He said he was educated in the U.S.--no English teacher alive would teach does'nt, rather than doesn't. The contraction (apostrophe) takes the place of the "o." Again, it's nice to hear from a polite Kate supporter.

Kartie Tweetest (formerly Dearest) said...

You know, just glancing at her tweets, it almost looks manic. I'm not a medical expert but I wonder if she suffers some form of manic depression (mixed in with pathological lying- this is a known illness that my friend's sister suffers). I know stress can trigger manic depression if not genetic. People have been saying Narcissistic personality disorder when describing Kart but I'm thinking this is something deeper touching upon mental health.

Those tweets are very telling and I'm scared for the kids.

mama mia said...

@Westhoffen called Kate out for telling some kid to take zyrtec, wonder if she is blocked, lol.

h8k8 said...

fidosmommy said...
Did TLC use an Australia-based crew for filming?
If not, don't forget the cost of transporting all the production crew to the 12 people flying to AU/NZ. They, of course, would travel economy, if not in the baggage hold. :-)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The glimpses we got in pics released during the winter, it looked like it was the same crew they use here in the USA (I'm thinking of the one taken on the beach).

BerksPa said...

For anyone following Kate's tweets, you will notice that she barely acknowledges or engages 'new' followers. Instead she chats back and forth with the same people (that were first to follow her) over and over - a lot of them men as well. .

I believe her skills at forming relationships were stunted around the ages of 13-15. Unless something or someone is worth getting something from (whether gifts or adulation) she will not engage in that conversation. She does nothing but promote herself and no causes. Not ONE peep about 'giving back' or ways her viewers can help.

BTW- you do not need to follow her in order to tag and mention her. All you need to do is add @kateplusmy8 anywhere in your tweet when you post to your twitter and it will go to her "mentions" section.

If you want to read what others are saying about her (and it will show all the good and bad questions/comments) just put @kateplusmy8 in the search box on your twitter page and click the little magnifying glass next to it. Everything good and bad shows up there.

Whether or not she chooses to read the 'feed' other people can at any time they want - like I said, they don't need to follow her in order to get the feed. Feel free to post the truth and/or challenging questions calling her out.

One disclaimer, there are sheeple who are very very vulgar. You will see those tweets as well, as they attack anyone who posts a 'non-butt-kissing' question/post to Kate.

Church maybe? said...

She didn't just ask all of us to tell her where we think she should go? Ok, Katie, you make it too easy!!

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Sorry OT:

Found this on ABC's 20/20 Twitter:

Our own @BarbaraJWalters kicking off @abc #royalwedding coverage this MONDAY! 10PM


Guess what I'll be watching?... Not TLC- that's for sure :o)




BOYCOTT TLC MONDAY NIGHT
FREE THE GOSSELIN 8!!!

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Kate, ever the opportunist, is asking her twits & twerps:

Good morning! Have a gd one! My question today: What would YOU like 2 see us do or where would you like to see us go on K+8? Just curious... 26 minutes ago

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HOME!

mama san said...

re: coupons -- as a retired single my coupon strategy is thus: if the coupon won't cover the smallest size, I leave the coupon on the shelf for someone who can use it.

LisaNH said...

fidosmommy said... Lisa in NH, I've watched a couple of episodes of Extreme Couponing. I noticed one EC participant (Nathan) bought something like 1,000 boxes of cereal in their original shipping boxes, put them out on the driveway and waited for the Food Bank people to come get them. The same guy - on an entirely different episode - was getting all sorts of things to send to the troops in Afghanistan. So, TLC is showing the positive side of couponing as well. Yes, Nathan has a stockpile in his garage, but I would not doubt that he
fills a bag full of food and personal hygiene items every week for local food drives.

Some do it simply for the challenge, I think. It's almost like a dare they put themselves to each and every time they shop.

I had no idea of couponing fraud. I would not even know where to start to get involved in that.

I have a good friend who coupons. She can pare down a $130 grocery bill to $13 like a champ
without even blinking.

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Tha is awesome about your friend and her skills. A few weeks ago I was about to buy $122 worth of products for $41. I was pretty proud of that LOL.

And you're right, Nathan does a lot of good with his couponing but he also sells items from his stockpile. That is another controversy on the coupon site I belong to, whether it is ethical to get stuff cheap at say, CVS or Walgreens then turn around and sell it. Many feel that isn't right either.

I have a friend who is a coupon blogger and she has soooo much stuff in her stockpile but she has a big family too. On top of that she routinely shops sales with coupons for her food bank. Last year she bought like 300 boxes of Hamburger helper, cereal, soup and other items for her local food bank and paid something like $25 for all of it.

TLC does like to spin things. And now that the coupon fraud is in the news, TLC is probably hoping to get some more ratings because of it.

T.I.N.I.C. said...

Because Kate's biggest fan base appears to be in the 15 to 18 age range I would suggest Kate take her kids to a Stranger Danger course. She would be doing her children the biggest favor she could but would also help protect those innocents who follow her. Several of the youngest are Friends with a complete unknown internet stranger.

This would be a way for Kate to really give something back.

Wouldn't get me back as a viewer but I would have at least one kind thought about Kate.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

MontgomeryCounty, PA - I'm curious to know how you know you're not blocked. When I send a tweet to Kate, it goes through and I see it on twazzup but she doesn't see it. I know I'm blocked and the way I tested it was I went to her site and clicked on the "Follow" button and it won't let me follow her (not that I want to - just testing).

JudyK said...

Church maybe? said... She didn't just ask all of us to tell her where we think she should go? Ok, Katie, you make it too easy!!

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"Church" made me laugh out loud because the minute I saw that, I thought HELL would be a good suggestion--but just her, not the kids. :)

MontgomeryCounty, PA said...

Berks...

I would like to add to your above comment: When a user makes their Twitter account private, their tweets will not be shown on Kreider's timeline and cannot be seen by others. Also, sheeple will not be able to track you down and harass you.

To Tweedle D:

You said... "it goes through and I see it on twazzup." If that's the case, that you see your tweet on Twassup, then you are not blocked. Twazzup lists all of the messages sent to Kreider from PUBLIC Twitter accounts. PRIVATE account tweets get to her, but they are not published to the rest of the Twitter community.

I hope that everyone enjoys the day!

Kreider GETS THE TWEET, but the only way that others can see it is if she replies. Since she is not replying to people who aren't kissing her butt, no one sees it.

My advice is to make your account private. You will not see your tweets "published," but who cares? If the objective is to tell her what you think, it shouldn't matter if the rest of the Twitter community sees your tweet. But, rest assured, Kreider will see it.

Administrator said...

The kids should go to Jon, and Kate should go to church.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

MontgomeryCounty, PA said..."it goes through and I see it on twazzup." If that's the case, that you see your tweet on Twassup, then you are not blocked.

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Thx for the reply Montgomery Cty. I'm not going to belabor the point. Just wanted to say, one of Kate's fans told me they'd blocked me. When I went to their page and tried to follow that person, I could not. When I clicked on "Follow" it did not work. I don't think you can follow someone who has blocked you. I can click on Follow and follow her fans, but the person who blocked me...I can't. Same with Kate. I don't think twazzup knows who's blocked you. It shows all replies. That's the only explanation I can come up with as to why I can't follow those who have blocked me. No biggie.

Administrator said...

Well Kate's on Twitter every 2 minutes this morning, and posted this:

Having a peaceful dreary Sat@home.Kids playing nicely.Chilling in pjs w coffee&mady is nxt 2 me quietly reading.I love this content feeling! 2 minutes ago

Proof she is twatting away on Twitter while her kids are right there reading and playing. Here's a thought, go play with your own kids.

Carol said...

ok, I had to send my first tweet (I am not following). She asked for it, so I had to say it:

Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
Good morning! Have a gd one! My question today: What would YOU like 2 see us do or where would you like to see us go on K+8? Just curious...

My Reply:
I would like to see you stop filming and stay home with your kids w/o a nanny or how about take the kids on a real vac no tlc

Maggie said...

Kate wrote: The kids beg unrelentlessly about this... & it is at the very top of my must do before die (with kids) list... Omg can u imagine? African Safari. HOw many kids beg their parents for this?

Westcoaster said...

It's mind-boggling how much time she spends doing The Twitter - right now it is late morning in PA, a Saturday and she has a 8 kids at home. The twits are fast and furious. Picture all of her little birds in their high chairs begging her to tell her new friends where in the world they want to go next. Nah, maybe she's sitting in her white plastic throne in the driveway. Actually, I was most struck by a comment yesterday about how she has lived the last 15-16 years grafting off the generosity of others. So true; she really has no idea that most people do not live this way. Total grifter mentality; she will expect those kids to support her forever.

Michelle said...

I was just thinking the same thing. It's been 12 days and she is building a sheeple following on Twitter very, very slowly. From what I hear, 7,000 followers is a pitiful number for anyone in reality tv, let alone someone who announced her new Twitter account on the Today Show.
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ITA! Bethany Frankel is at about 470,000 followers. Long way to to, Kate. Even the various captains from Deadliest Catch are over 25,000 each.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kartie Tweetest (formerly Dearest) said...You know, just glancing at her tweets, it almost looks manic.

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You got it. She lllooooovvvesss everything, everywhere and everybody, everything is amazing!!!!!! and awesome!!!!!!!!!

She's done something like 40 tweets in the past hour. That rather extreme, isn't it?

This is her new toy. She'll tire of it especially because she's overdosing on it now. Of course, there's still the possibility she isn't the one tweeting or that someone else tweets for her, too.

MontgomeryCounty, PA said...

Tweedle D-

Sorry, I must have read your post too quickly and missed that point.

It's true if you click “follow @kateplusmy8” while on Kreider's Twitter page, then go to your page and you do not see her as someone you "follow," then you are blocked. As I stated yesterday (I think it was yesterday), just create a new account and follow from there.

Also, regarding your Twazzup comment - "I don't think twazzup knows who's blocked you. It shows all replies." All that Twazzup does is display, in real-time, all of Kreider’s tweets and a running account of the comments that every person with a PUBLIC Twitter account has sent her. If someone has a PRIVATE account, the tweets are getting to her, but they are not displayed on her home Twitter account or on Twazzup.

Ok, I am all Twittered-out! Have a great day!

Jenna Does said...

Hippie Chick here!
Admin said...
With gas prices approaching five bucks a gallon, the average American is realizing that the days of vacations every summer, with maybe a really big one every few years, are on hold for now. Her greed is unbelievable, not to mention very unattractive.
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So true! And she is begging her cronies to beg TLC to send HER here & there & everywhere? How pathetic? I noticed in one of her tweets that someone posted that she wrote something like "It's a dream if MINE" with MINE capitalized. So, it's her dream, huh? What about her kids? This has always been about her, we knew that, & she is slowly letting that slip out.

About families not being able to take luxurious vacations because money is tight & gas prices are high & Kate can't even see that, well, that's because Kate is a selfish d-bag. She probably doesn't even realize the financial crisis that's going on in the world. She lives in a bubble. She pumps her gas & doesn't look at the prices. Her "twatters" don't dare say anything like "Um, Kate, not all of us can afford to go to AUS. for a SECOND time, you useless b*^th. We would just love 2 go 2 Dollywood 4 the day!"

She looks like a beggar, a desperate grifter again, who is losing her show. At least WE ARE catching on.

Administrator said...

Of course, there's still the possibility she isn't the one tweeting or that someone else tweets for her, too.
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Need I explain why we can safely rule this possibility out? Come on now. :-)

Jennifer said...

"Unrelentless"? Way to further demonstrate your total lack of grasp of the English language, Kate.

Administrator said...

I also don't believe the kids walk around telling Kate they want to go on an African safarai and so on and so forth. Yeah right. Kate is PROJECTING.

The kids I nannied for had been to Europe dozens of times, all over the US and Canada, Tihiti, KENYA ON SAFARI, Costa Rica, Mexico, and snowboarding trips every winter break. They never ONCE ever talked about any of these vacations or mentioned some new place they wanted to go. Um, no, they talked about baseball, basketball, Playstation, and baseball again. Actually I think once they mentioned how their mom got food poisoning in Kenya and puked her guts out. This is what they remember.

Anonymous said...

Done. I'm so sick of Kate and her dumb bucket-list.. She is sick. WTF makes her so special? She had 8 kids? No, I'm not Jealous of her. I'm sick of her entitlement. I hope people are done watching her.

Lissa

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Administrator said...

Of course, there's still the possibility she isn't the one tweeting or that someone else tweets for her, too.
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Need I explain why we can safely rule this possibility out? Come on now. :-)

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If you mean no one could possiblely sound as egotistical, self-absorbed, selfish and stupid as Kate, that's probably true.

roxyhelen said...

Guys Kate has been lying all along about the crew being like their family.There's an interview in which she says the crew changes very often and there are so many people who just come and go all the time.I quote Kate Gosselin:
"THE CREW CHANGES SO OFTEN AT THIS POINT AND WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHICH I ONCE WAS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH BUT OVER HERE YOU CAN SEE MIKE HE"S THE ONLY ONE LEFT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING."
The interview was given in March 2009.So if the crew changed a lot during that time and the show ended in October(that's when they stopped filming) who were those kids happy to see in April 2010? The strangers that came and went for all those months? So freaking stage season premiere!
This is the link,for the crew statement start watching at 1:46
http://www.lilsugar.com/Jon-Kate-Gosselin-Put-Rumors-Rest-Oprah-Appearance-2906951

Donna said...

You're partially right, Admin. The kids should go to Jon and Kate should go to the mental hospital for an extended stay. Church would do her no good, since she thinks SHE is God.

Maggie said...

What does "listed" mean when looking at someone's twitter info? For instance, on Kate's, it is 59 listed.

Gag me said...

Listed means of the 7000 following her, 59 are listed -- shown when you click on the listed tab.

The twit's tweets said...

Hmmmmm,
Apparently the media relations facilitated trip to Space Camp has hit a snag.

huntsvillewrite to @Kateplusmy8
May have to wait a while on Space Camp. My contact stated due to circumstances at moment unable to do it right now. Continued..

Kateplusmy8 to @huntsvillewrite
Ok I'll pass your info along. Thanks.

huntsvillewrite to @Kateplusmy8
If you wish to find out what is causing the delay, email me at john.hampton@gmx.com. Thanks.

huntsvillewrite to @Kateplusmy8
Let me say that the reply I got did not make me feel too encouraged. If you do email me I will fwd email I rcvd.

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How does she keep her dreams separate? Just this morning she said she wants to go to Africa, Korea, Grand Canyon, live on a houseboat, Ireland, London, Paris, Austria, UK.

harrietolney to @Kateplusmy8
come to the uk :).

@Kateplusmy8 to @harrietolney
Dream of all dreams right now...
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lizzeee3 to @Kateplusmy8
African safari.... A safe one of course :-) if such a thing exists!

@Kateplusmy8 to lizzeee3
The kids beg unrelentlessly about this... & it is at the very top of my must do before die (with kids) list... Omg can u imagine?

(isn't it a bit unusual for kids to beg "unrelentlessly" to go to Africa? I'm kind of thinking that's showing a bit of entitlement and excess here!?!) (btw, unrelentlessly is a non-word.)

Michelle said...

Also, do you know anyone in real life this obsessed with a "Bucket List"? Especially if they have eight children in elementary school. There is something so mentally wrong with this "mother".

Administrator said...

Good point, let's assume the kids DO beg to go to Africa. Do they have zero understanding that under normal circumstances you don't just say what you want, beg for it enough, and then you get it? That's not how the world works, and yet this is how their bubble works.

Is Kate even teaching them at all, sweethearts big trips like that cost a TON of money and if you really want something like that the adults in your life have to work very, very hard for it and save for a very long time. Well geez why would she try to tell them that since that's not how it works at all for their family.

Seriously as adults when they want to go to say, backpacking in Europe for the summer, will they have any understanding whatsoever how an adult goes about selecting a place to go, planning all the details in advance without production doing it for you, and saving up for it? I predict a lot of credit card problems for these kids. Sad.

Administrator said...

No I don't know anyone obsessed with a bucket list who is not retired with kids out of the home. Even those people mostly talk about their grandkids and then once in a blue moon mention the trip to China they always wanted to do. There are certain stages in life and now is her time to be a mommy and be fulfilled by her kids and all the bustle and fun (and sometimes frustration) that comes with that.

Kate cannot accept that this is what most people in their 30's are doing right now, raising their kids. She wants a lifestyle that is so outrageous and beyond the norm for every other mother in her shoes.

No regrets said...

She still thinks there is a country "Korea". Amazing the lack of knowledge she has about her own kids' heritage. I keep remembering her "Look, ASIAN writing" while she they were in CHINAtown. There is a distinct difference in Korean, Chinese and Japanese characters in writing. Google has all the info that one needs, without even buying a book about it. LOL If my children were part of any other nationality, I would know as much as possible about it, to teach THEM, if not for my own knowledge. Regardless if Jon or his family can pass on info, SHE still needs to educate herself. FOR HER KIDS.

But her "Korea" dream just won't die. She wants to hold and love babies and "take supplies" Why wait for that "episode"? Supplies are needed I am sure, before you can film it. Oh and facilitate an adoption, NOT for her, for someone else.

One fan suggested:
@Kateplusmy8 You could go work at a food pantry or some kind of work to help give back to the community.

KATE's reply: That ep is already filmed and coming soon... Life changing for sure! Support Feeding America, America! If evryone gave a dollar!

Silly fan, that was already filmed. ONE episode of giving back! ONE already done. So why bother with another right? Oh, I have an idea, why not do it WITHOUT being filmed? Let us READ about the almighty Kate supporting the local or national charity of her choice? Yes, read about it, all publicity helps charities. Why do you have to get paid 250K to "give back". Instead of the consignment store for her kids' clothes, why not DONATE them for a needy family? Asking too much?

Looks like there is a problem with the Space Camp trip. Oh no. Kate won't get that for free? Oh no. No space camp for you!

E-town Neighbor said...

Westcoaster said...

It's mind-boggling how much time she spends doing The Twitter - right now it is late morning in PA, a Saturday and she has a 8 kids at home. The twits are fast and furious

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We're having a monsoon here (flood watch) with high winds, so I imagine she's bored to death with eight kids in the house who can't go outside to play. I bet she wishes that this were Jon's weekend with them!
Get out some board games, Kate, and sit down with your children instead of your new tweeting toy, or have circle time and read some books to them.

fidosmommy said...

Maybe Kate is talking "bucket list" because these are things she wants to do before her show dies.

The twit's tweets said...

Here are a few of Kate's ideas just from this morning about how she'll "give back".
And, since she's professing that she's now a "giver", let's see how long it takes to hear if she's actually done something for others/given back without collecting a $250,000 paycheck!

Kateplusmy8 to @sarahjoyce1992
Omg my Koreadream won't die!I want 2 hold& luv&takesupplies 2 babies&wld lov 2 facilitateanadoption--by some1othrthanme!Lol

Kateplusmy8 to @twinmom221
Ok. I agree. An overseas Mission trip with all my kids- filmed or not- WILL happen! No doubt abt it!
(mhhmmmm, Kate. Still waiting.)
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Jeny49 to @tripleJsandME @Kateplusmy8
I agree. Kate has been blessed w. lots of stuff. Time to give back to those who are hurting in this economy.

Kateplusmy8 to @Jeny49 @tripleJsandME
Agree 100%. others have helped us-- it's our turn!

Jeny49 to @Kateplusmy8
don't go for us, send others on trips. I think it would be a great each week to surprise n shower a hurting family with gifts

@Kateplusmy8 to @Jeny49
Totally agree&have tried 2 push that thru 4 years...that is my personal dream... Giving back is addicting! I  it so much!
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I somehow don't think Kate has the same opinion of what giving back means that I do. Hey Kate -- if you'd take your clothes to a shelter/Goodwill/church instead of the consignment store you would't have to "dream" about giving back; you'd be doing it!

Here are a few other ideas. Pile the kids in the van each week and take them to the local Reading food bank where the whole family can help and feel that they're contributing and giving back will no longer be the "dream" you talk about.
How about lending "your" name (not the kids') in official support of the places you've said you want to back: Feed the Children, the Australia Zoo hospital, St. Jude Hospital and ask your "tweeties" to make a donation. Giving back does NOT mean doing something only because it's going to be televised, require your children to be exploited and miss school, and you to be paid for it.

I think she missed class the day they discussed the meaning of charity. Who else but Katie Irene has grifted money from caring church congregations, used faith to draw viewers to her tv show, made millions by exploiting her children, and still has not used her name/influence to help others unless she was monetarily rewarded?

No regrets said...

'Also, do you know anyone in real life this obsessed with a "Bucket List"?'

Michelle, I am obsessed with mine. I am 64 today, and all my kids are gone though. I realize I don't have long in this world, so there are some things that I can do now, that I was never able to do, because my kids came first. THEIR 'lists' were more important than mine. Now is my time. She is the exact opposite. She is fulfilling HER wishes, forget the kids. They are only there to facilitate HER wishes. Such a self centered child/woman it is absolutely sickening.

ADMIN, BTW the Google Chrome has NO issues about posting here with ONE click. It does seem to be the browser issue. As many have related. Google Chrome is really good, even a spell check built in. LOL

Note to Fidosmommy, I apologize about the comment regarding your complaint. It certainly was not meant to be personal. I just love this blog and have had issues with Blogger for so long, it had just gotten to me. :( Again, apologies, I enjoy your posts here too.

No regrets said...

Kate should use Google to help the koalas. I did ONE search and came up with this foundation, based in Australia! Since, after what 4 months, she is still only "working on it". She could have set up her own in a few weeks, or donate to this foundation. Why not support the Wildlife Warriors, even though they do help other animals too? Why take so long? Koalas and other animals need help NOW, just like the Korean orphanages.

https://www.savethekoala.com/koalasliving.html

Maybe someone can post the link to her, since she seems so helpless in finding a way to "help".

No regrets said...

"Totally agree&have tried 2 push that thru 4 years...that is my personal dream... Giving back is addicting! I  it so much!"

She has tried to push it through for years? For episodes? Why TRY TO 'PUSH IT THOUGH"? To use TLC's money is NOT giving back. You getting paid is NOT giving back. Use your OWN money, people have given you millions by buying your total BS on the air. SPREAD a little of YOUR wealth. Truly give back. Just freakin' do it, you greedy self centered %^%&^.

fidosmommy said...

E-Town Neighbor mentioned book circles. Being read to was one of my favorite parts of childhood. One of my parents - or even my older brother - would either read or invent a story for me while I was going to sleep. I remember my Kindergarten and lower elementary teachers reading us one chapter of a book as part of our daily curriculum. I loved every bit of it. I understand that children who are read to as little kids do best with reading and writing and speaking skills. Whether that is true for me or not is still not decided, but it certainly was not a detriment to hear stories!
Winnie the Pooh. Mrs. Piggle Wiggle. The Borrowers. Fairy tales. Whatever. Just share some age appropriate literature with the kids!
In the winter my Dad and I would play Chinese Checkers in the rec room every Sunday night. Mom would sew on the big table in there. We chatted about nothing in particular. Cherished memories!

Kate has a rainy day in PA to fill her kids' heads with great stuff, and she sits there and twitters crap to strangers.

Kate may need to learn that it is possible to "make memories" and have "awesome experiences" right at home. It just takes the
involvement of a parent, who at the moment seems to be Kate - who is tweeting like mad. Is that to get her mind off the fact that she's not traveling anywhere soon? That she's stuck at home for awhile? Is she trying to float out of the house in an imaginary dream bubble of Kenya, "Korea", the Space Camp, etc.? That'll block out any thoughts of having to do something with the kids right NOW.

I'm very glad they have some unstructured play time, but at some point having a group activity might be nice. You know, something besides chasing your brother and whacking him in the head with a truck. I'll bet that's happened
at least twice today. Maybe that's the "tattling" Kate tweeted about.

AMD said...

One fan suggested:
@Kateplusmy8 You could go work at a food pantry or some kind of work to help give back to the community
To which Kate replied:
@jcmommymd That ep is already filmed and coming soon... Life changing for sure! Support Feeding America, America! If evryone gave a dollar!
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So the "life changing" trip to the food bank was just an episode...for filming purposes. Sure sounds like it's a one-time only event...don't expect it to be done locally without the cameras.
And her kids "begging"...ridiculous!! Can't wait for the day when her kids can speak for themselves.

Administrator said...

She also makes it sound like she can't do anything unless TLC does it for her. What is she, a robot? Their slave? Minion?

So TLC doesn't want to do an episode about some other needy family, who cares. Go help a needy family by yourself. You know, with your own damn money. Is it in her contract she cannot even fart unless TLC approves? How very sad her life is. I thought we fought a war 150 years ago to stop slavery.

Marie said...

Okay, after some serious thought here this morning, certain things Kate has said and done just don't add up for me.

Camera crew hasn't changed, even though its obviously changed even multiple times. That if her show is the realest reality show out there, wouldn't the concept be just live life, and not have a theme? Life doesn't have a theme to it...most days anyway. That if they are being realistic they shouldn't have to wait for TLC to pay for them to do anything. And lastly, here she is twittering it up all about her kids, Hannah said this, Cara does this, Mady's thinks this, somebody is reading this. Call me crazy but if this were JON saying all of this, people would be up in arms and totally angry with all he has divulged to the public for some wacky reason but is KATE does it, then its just fine. Why is anyone sane enough to support her?

Got news for her, she isn't the first woman to have 8 kids, sure back in the day when kids were considered farm-working kids they all weren't born at the same time but people used to have 8 maybe 9 kids. And more of a shock, Kate's kids aren't the ONLY sextuplets in the world. What makes them so special? They'lll be 7 in a few weeks, and will be going into first grade (maybe). I see nothing special about them. Sure all kids are cute, so what? All puppies are cute but cute factor tends to wear off for most of us. Yawn...

h8k8 said...

No Regrets, Happy Birthday!!
Wishing you many more and each year filled with enjoyable bucket list accomplishments.

#losing said...

I'm sorry but how many life long dreams does this woman have? On her twitter alone she has mentioned "it's my dream." "It's at the top of my list." "It's a life long dream of mine." blah blah blah, over and over again. It is ridiculous.

Sport said...

So now The Netherlands are the top of her list of free-trip-wishlist forever?

When does the public panhandling from this shrew end?

Everything out of her mouth is "I am a great mother I can do this and this" or "please send my already spoiled family here on your dime"

Michelle said...

No regrets said... 'Also, do you know anyone in real life this obsessed with a "Bucket List"?'

Michelle, I am obsessed with mine. I am 64 today, and all my kids are gone though. I realize I don't have long in this world, so there are some things that I can do now, that I was never able to do, because my kids came first. THEIR 'lists' were more important than mine. Now is my time. She is the exact opposite. She is fulfilling HER wishes, forget the kids. They are only there to facilitate HER wishes. Such a self centered child/woman it is absolutely sickening.
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EXACTLY! You are at the "bucket list" stage of life. As are my parents. They are now talking about finally seeing Germany and Alaska which they've always wanted to do. They are retired and focusing on their wants, as they should be.

I'm a mom and I'm not saying moms should be totally living for their kids needs and interests. There does need to be "mom time" for the sake of sanity, but for most of us moms, the time Kate spends tanning, on mani/pedis, home alone, is more mom time than we could dream of or even want. Bucket lists come down the road.

I think Admin summed it up perfectly. For most of us, bucket lists are something to focus on as we enter our senior years. For Kate, it's more like "I need to do this before the TLC years end".

No regrets said...

"h8k8 said...
No Regrets, Happy Birthday!!
Wishing you many more and each year filled with enjoyable bucket list accomplishments."

Hey thanks a lot! Very nice of you. I have truly been blessed, and I HOPE I can fulfill my list. You know, even partial fulfillment will be OK with me LOL Thanks again.

No regrets said...

"I'm a mom and I'm not saying moms should be totally living for their kids needs and interests. There does need to be "mom time" for the sake of sanity, but for most of us moms, the time Kate spends tanning, on mani/pedis, home alone, is more mom time than we could dream of or even want. Bucket lists come down the road."

Michelle, I agree. Moms do deserve their time. I do not in any way, begrudge her or any mom an indulgence or indulgences of their own. But with her it is "MY lifelong dream" "My list" "my this, my that". In an interview last year, she was asked where is the place the KIDS want to go to the most? She replied "I want to go to Alaska". This was right before the Alaska episode. Not the kids want, but "I want". Even the interviewer paused when she answered. It is as if she doesn't even hear 'the kids'.

Mona said...

fidosmommy said... Maybe Kate is talking "bucket list" because these are things she wants to do before her show dies.

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You've got tht right, fidosmom. She wants TLC to pay for it all. It's society's responsibility to pay for the kids even when they are in K and grade 4. Kate's bucket list is not about doing this before Kate dies, it's about doing it before the show is cancelled.

Administrator said...

This is another one of our arguments that the sheeple like to distort. They like to say we don't want Kate to have any time to herself, Kate has a right to be pampered and have Kate time.

Um, no, we never said that. All we said was that we don't think Kate should spent 99.999% of all hours in the day on herself. Her Twitter account certainly proves that.

If she even started to spend just 75% of the time on herself and 25% on the kids, it would be a massive improvement.

Westcoaster said...

Exactly! I am also in that bucket stage, grown kids, small grandchildren. I like to think about trips we might take, work on plans for those we are taking. When I had kids at home the ages of the G8 I was obsessed with figuring out how to juggle weekend sports activities, plan for summer camp and family vacations, etc. And I was grateful we could pay for al of that ourselves. I agree with Admin that these chidren are not only growing up with incredible expectations, but they will have no idea how to plan, make arrangements and most importantly, pay for anything. Their mother is a lost cause, the Queen of Entitlement.

No regrets said...

Administrator said...
This is another one of our arguments that the sheeple like to distort. They like to say we don't want Kate to have any time to herself, Kate has a right to be pampered and have Kate time.

EXACTLY, Admin. I have never begrudged her her mom time. But she has far more than any mother I have ever in my life have seen or heard about. Especially, with children so young. It is great this woman has the millions to spend on 'helpers' and all the tanning etc. But she does HER thing and adds "for the kids". LOL Saying it does not make it so. She said she did DWTS "for the kids". Umm ok.

wayward said...

Kateplusmy8 to @sarahjoyce1992
Omg my Koreadream won't die!I want 2 hold& luv&takesupplies 2 babies&wld lov 2 facilitateanadoption--by some1othrthanme!Lol
________________________________________________

No, her dream of going to Korea on TLCs dime won't die, especially after she was {thisclose} to getting there.

Two years ago she had told Jon the marriage was over but the plan was they were going to pretend to be together forever. After all, a trip to Korea was in the works. They had even gotten passports. What magazine was it where they said they had looked into adopting from Korea but Korea didn't allow adoptions to families with more than 5 kids? It was either Good Housekeeping or Ladies Home Journal. Kate had long checked out of the marriage but let's look into adopting another human being to juice up the ratings for the big Korea trip. She has no conscience whatsoever, not one shred or concern or compassion for anyone else but herself. The fact that an inquiry about adoption was even made when their marriage was over is beyond apalling. It's a perfect example of what reality TV stardom will do to people. They become desperate to stay relevant and will stoop to any level in order to stay on TV.

When the blind item came out recently about a reality star mom who is adopting and already brokering a cover story and photo shoot, I felt sick. I prayed this wasn't Khate. While I don't think an agency or foreign country would allow her to adopt a baby, there's nothing stopping her from private adoption.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

No regrets said...

"Totally agree&have tried 2 push that thru 4 years...that is my personal dream... Giving back is addicting! I  it so much!"

She has tried to push it through for years? For episodes? Why TRY TO 'PUSH IT THOUGH"? To use TLC's money is NOT giving back. You getting paid is NOT giving back. Use your OWN money, people have given you millions by buying your total BS on the air. SPREAD a little of YOUR wealth. Truly give back. Just freakin' do it, you greedy self centered %^%&^.

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She "TRIED 2 PUSH THAT THRU 4 YEARS"?!!!!

What, Kate can't quietly do anything charitable on her own? This proves her insincerity. She will not do ANYTHING unless she is getting paid/filmed to do it. The only thing she loves is getting people to grant her wishes, and making sure her dreams come true. Kate's Twitter account has morphed into just another way to get more trips & things for free.

In these tough economic times, few people are willing to tolerate such greed.

Sooner or later, all her followers will figure out what a deep, black hole she is.

It's no wonder people walk away from her.

No regrets said...

From KATE: @elm616 They've forced me 2 go on when I thought I'd crumble..they are my reason I take every breath.they're extensions/part of me! Ithem!

reggiebeth Regina Parrish
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@Kateplusmy8 @elm616 What a drama queen you are. All moms do this for their kids. U R NOT special.

LOL Someone even said that the "good bra" is REALLY good, it even works without the bra. LOLOL

Enough of this stupid crap of Kate's. Family is home now, taking me out~~ Lobster is on MY list today. :)

Have a great day everyone~~

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Happy Birthday, No regrets :o)

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

More negative comments coming through now:

iheartb2k
@Kateplusmy8 I figured u wouldn't answer me since its not what u want to hear. I hope u get cara into counseling. She looks so sad & angry:(

elm616
@reggiebeth @kateplusmy8 All moms are special get off your high horse

mandieharvey
@Kateplusmy8 I'd love to see u all do something NORMAL. Something a NIRMAL family could do/relate to. Like your show used to be :)

jeny49
@Kateplusmy8 You should do it w/o cameras. You have enough to share with others. Obama says spread the wealth and give back. Don't need TLC

reggiebeth
@Kateplusmy8 @Petra_NR Will you pay for it yourself? Will you EVER pay for anything yourself?

stephentaylormm
@Kateplusmy8 You should go to a mental illness institution, they would admitt you probably for using your children for profit.

Administrator said...

Kate tweeted:..they are my reason I take every breath.they're extensions/part of me! I
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Could this woman be anymore TEXTBOOK narcissims??? Children are extentions of the narcissist, a number one symptom.

Therapist/social worker Stephanie Donaldson-Pressman says this in her book the Narcissistic family:
"Treating the child as an extension of the parent, a toy and the conduit of the parent's frustrated dreams and unfulfilled wishes is a violation of the child's forming boundaries. It is a perversion of the all-important processes of individuation and separation. It is a travesty and the child pays its price all its remaining life."

My...God.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0787908703/ref=nosim/theborderlinesan

Maggie said...

Kate twittering may be her downfall to many of her fans. I am assuming that the vast majority of twitters that are following her are die-hard fans. Any idiot following her today can see her greed and entitlement. I think it will open up a lot of fan's eyes that may have not seen this otherwise. And I don't think her twittering will add any new fans. The fans that already watch her show are the ones that are following her on twitter. And this has already been proven with the 90,000 drop her last week's show.

Nobody Likes a Narcissist said...

No regrets: Happy Birthday! Enjoy the day with your family (and enjoy the lobster!).

AuntieAnn said...

Could this woman be anymore TEXTBOOK narcissims???
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Most narcissists of any notoriety have some kind of talent. Joan Crawford could act, Hitler could command, Picasso could paint, Ted Turner is genius in business... etc, etc ...
WTF does Kate do? Nothing. She's a just a pathetic narcissist. If anything I guess you could say greed is her forte because she's just such an empty person who can't get enough of anything. But greed isn't a talent, it's a disgustingly ugly trait. That's all she'll ever be remembered for.

wayward said...

Maggie said... "Kate twittering may be her downfall to many of her fans. I am assuming that the vast majority of twitters that are following her are die-hard fans. Any idiot following her today can see her greed and entitlement."
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The fact that TLC is allowing Kate to twitter at all is a positive sign. It seemed in the past TLC used to guard Kate's PR and her bizarre behavior like Fort Knox. Her Kate's Take blog was scubbed every day of negative comments. Steve the Purseboy reportedly was hired by TLC to keep her in line and to act as a buffer in public because Kate has no filter. Strongly worded letters were sent from the TLC legal team to those who merely exercised their freedom of speech by speaking negatively of her (wink, wink Admin!)

Moving her time slot to 10:00 was definitely an eye raiser, I dont think it was intened to help her. It puts her in competition with so many other shows and her ratings reflect this. I learned a long time ago to not get my hopes up, because just like herpes and hep c- Kate never goes away. But it looks to me like TLC is weary of her and is winding their time out with her by letting her do what she wants and not caring about it anymore.

E-town Neighbor said...

I don't understand where this sense of entitlement comes from...this grifting, this me, me, me attitude. I can't imagine that she was raised like this. We grew up in the same community. This is Lancaster County, the home of the Pennsylvania Dutch, a devoutly religious group of people with a strong work ethic.

It's a proud group of people who doesn't take help from anyone, doesn't expect charity from anyone; we go about our business with a strong sense of worth and achievement because we alone are responsible for our actions and our success. We freely give to others in need, but we do it quietly, without fanfare and without calling attention to ourselves. It's a sense of community and sharing that's been instilled in us through the generations. It's grassroots America. We worship because of our spirituality. We don't make the church rounds to ask for cash donations in the form of love offerings.

The only time I can see any of our local customs/language/traditions coming through is when words and phrases creep into her conversation, words that we've heard from our parents and grandparents; words that bloggers find to be a butchering of the English language, but words that are so typically common to the dialect of this area. She can't escape it. It's too bad, though, that bits and pieces of language are the only part of her heritage that remain.

Kate certainly wasn't raised to be materialistic and greedy. Somewhere along the way something happened, and I think this sense of entitlement was within her long before TLC came along. They only served as the catalyst; they encouraged and nurtured it. It's like someone who takes narcotics for pain, and then graduates to much more potent drugs, and then searches out an unscrupulous doctor who continues to write prescriptions until the user is pushed over the edge.

TLC is like that doctor. They have become her enabler. When it ends and they no longer support her habit, how devastating will the withdrawal be, and will the children be able to deal with the inevitable outcome of it all?

Mira said...

Thank you for printing all those negative comments on Twitter. It is so disturbing to read so many crazy irrational people are out there twittering like insane loons. What psychos. Another reason to stay off Twitter.Kate really should be careful.

#losing said...

Add Paris and Rome along with the Netherlands to her "top of list". She should just tweet: It has been a life long dream of mine to travel anywhere TLC will take me! Everywhere is at the top of my list! Everywhere!!

JudyK said...

Happy Birthday, No Regrets!

SmileyGrl752 said...

Administrator said...

Of course, there's still the possibility she isn't the one tweeting or that someone else tweets for her, too.
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Need I explain why we can safely rule this possibility out? Come on now. :-)

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If you mean no one could possiblely sound as egotistical, self-absorbed, selfish and stupid as Kate, that's probably true.

___________________________

Unless she orders someone what to type for her, but I even doubt she'd do that. She's obsessed with her pink phone.

SmileyGrl752 said...

You're partially right, Admin. The kids should go to Jon and Kate should go to the mental hospital for an extended stay. Church would do her no good, since she thinks SHE is God.

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Either that, or she thinks she's God's gift to the world. "All right world, I was on bedrest for 30 weeks and gave you 8 kids, now you owe me!"

roxyhelen said...

After everything I heard today I think I just feel sorry for Kate really,it's a sad story.What mother of 8 has the time to tweet ALL day long? She said she does it all,all,all,including cooking, cleaning and helping the kids do homework.Seriously? When exactly did she have time to do that today between all those tweets? Her supporters wonder why we think what Kate does is wrong but he don't see anything wrong with Angelina Jolie,Katie Holmes and every other celeb mom.Here's why:those women were celebrities who had kids while Kate is a person who had kids and who is now okay yeah,let's say like they do.."famous" because of it.Get it,Kate's fans? There is a HUGE difference between Kate and every celebrity who became a mom after already being famous!

I think Kate will regret all this one day.I think maybe she already regrets it but has no choice than to keep smiling,focus on the travel opportunities.Deep down,I think Kate knows she and Jon made a big mistake when they signed their children's lives away but what's done is done and Kate is too proud to admit she was wrong,but I think one day her kids will tell her "times 8" how wrong she and daddy were for turning their lives into a Truman show and how wrong she was for not letting/helping daddy fix it when he finally tried.But it will be too late then.Like I said,it's a sad story.

Julianna said...

admin said (in reference to textbook narcissism)
My...God.

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Indeed. And to think that she said it in those words - that the children are an extension of herself. We're not interpreting her actions, nor making our own psychological diagnosis. SHE SAID IT HERSELF! Wow, just wow...

She's digging herself in deeper and deeper.
Tweeting is going to be her downfall.

Linda G. said...

No regrets! You hit the nail on the head with this:

In an interview last year, she was asked where is the place the KIDS want to go to the most? She replied "I want to go to Alaska". This was right before the Alaska episode. Not the kids want, but "I want". Even the interviewer paused when she answered. It is as if she doesn't even hear 'the kids'.

YES. Psychiatrists have even said that people with NPD seem as if they literally CANNOT process any part of what you said that isn't about them. MRIs of NPD brains are NORMAL, it's that their personality is so disordered, they seem like they are literally cognitively impaired when it comes to even considering other people. It can make YOU feel crazy once you really notice it (and it doesn't take long to notice).

My brother and I used to joke that we could stand in front of our mother, douse ourselves in gasoline and light a match and she wouldn't notice a thing.

fidosmommy said...

Next we'll be reading that sappy quote from Jerry Maguire - they "complete me". Ugh.

Linda G. said...

When I read about her seeing her kids as an extension of herself, I got all-over chills. That IS textbook narcissism. All parents see their kids as an extension of themselves until about ONE MONTH OLD, when most babies are starting to show some signs of personality. At 10 and nearly 7, she should have looooooooong ago started seeing them as distinct individual unique people and not a Kate Borg. Whoooo.

That's one of the big reasons NPD parents have an extra hard time when their kids become teenagers. Daring to forge their own identity and growing up is an unforgivable crime to the NPD. So they are either rejected by that parent or they learn to not develop their own identity, squash things down, be compliant, which also creates a lot of problems for the child of an NPD.

Those kids already aren't having a good life, but it'll get worse, unfortunately.

By the way, when she first started tweeting, someone suggested she go to North Korea, LOL. She didn't get it, but one or two of her sheepies did and got pissed off.

I haven't read her twats in a few days now and it's nice.

Jenna Does said...

Hippie Chick here!
My son BEGS me all the time to go to Italy. Seriously, ALL the time. This is where my side of the family is from, I speak a little Italian, my dad is pretty good at it, my grandmother spoke fluently. He even carries around an English to Italian book. Sure, I would absolutely love to go, but a trip like this is big money. We're thinking for graduation or something. 8 years away!!

Does Kate even know what a Bucket List is? It's usually when someone is dying & they want to do things before they "kick the bucket". Not when they're 36 (?), has 8 young kids in school & a FRIGIN TV show that pays for every trip & can actually pay her own GD way! She annoys the crap out of me. And she's dumb. And she's reaching out that hand again, asking for more more more. 'Ask TLC to move my show to 9p.m' 'Have TLC send ME here'. AARRGGHHH!!!

Obviously, she's on her way out & she knows it. Trying to get while she thinks the getting is good. Keep digging Kate.

AuntieAnn said...

Those kids already aren't having a good life, but it'll get worse, unfortunately.
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If they aren't already, the G8 will be resented by people their own age for the things they have and the places they've been. There's bound to be jealousy among their peers. Kate obviously doesn't care as long as she's getting what SHE wants. Maybe she developed a thick skin through all of this but that doesn't mean those kids have.

readerlady said...

Oh Lord! Kate wants to go to Rome? Can't you just see her trying to visit the Sistine Chapel in one of her hooker outfits? She'd be thrown out so fast her head would spin! I can just see her now, telling the guards "Don't you know who I am?" She'd probably demand a private audience with the Holy Father, too.

Heide said...

Can somone ask her on Twitter if she wants to go to North or South Korea and see what she answers?

Mary said...

She is so lonely that she is thrilled to have these teenagers to "talk" with.

Also, she has been begging for free stuff since the 6 were born. It's been 6 years now that she has been begging --- even after she was able to move into a 1.2 million dollar home and is making tons of money.

This woman has no idea how lucky she has been in life. What is so disgusting is the fact that she definitely doesn't deserve it.

Warmth Of The Sun said...

By the way, when she first started tweeting, someone suggested she go to North Korea, LOL. She didn't get it, but one or two of her sheepies did and got pissed off.

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Of course she wouldn't get it. She thinks North and South Korea are one country. She said that she wanted to go to Korea!

E-town Neighbor said...

AuntieAnn said...

We live in an oil-rich province in Canada and we are at $5.36/imp.gal for gas.

I think I'll join the Amish.

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I don't know, Auntie. Those horses are getting mighty expensive to feed, too! Speaking of which...I was born and raised in this area. I saw something yesterday that I have never seen - a horse and buggy at a drive-through ATM, and a horse and buggy at the drive-through at McDonalds. I guess they are just yielding to the temptation of the drive-through fast banking, fast food world.

TLC ship is sinking said...

No regrets said..."Totally agree&have tried 2 push that thru 4 years...that is my personal dream... Giving back is addicting! I  it so much!"

She has tried to push it through for years? For episodes? Why TRY TO 'PUSH IT THOUGH"? To use TLC's money is NOT giving back. You getting paid is NOT giving back.

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All this twit talk from Kate about being addicted to giving back sounds more like damage control, repairing people's perception of her that she's a grifter.

I think Kate is now 'addicted' to giving because she's getting attention for doing it. She's doing it all for the wrong reasons. Many of us give back to help out our community, not for recognition or some special award.

I'll give her some credit for bringing awareness to some of these charitable organizations on tv. However, just smiling at the cameras and making an appearance is NOT truly giving back. Getting paid to do charity work is NOT giving back.

What is most unfortunate about this is she isn't giving back to her own community in PA, where many people/businesses helped them out BEFORE Jon&Kate Plus 8 existed. What an insult!

I'm sure most of these people donated money and stuff to the Gosselins, without expecting anything back in return. That's what true givers do. It's just a shame that Kate was never deeply moved by these kind gestures that she would want to do the same for another unfortunate family.

How many tweets is this now about talking about giving back, yet no real tweet about a charitable organization she supports and so should her fans?

gotyournumberKate said...

E-town...I love reading your posts. You're a great writer and what you say makes so much sense to me. I love your area. It's some of the prettiest countryside I have ever seen. It's so clean and beautiful. The farmland is breathtaking. My daughter lives with her husband and 2 daughters in Millersville and I love visiting the area. Actually my boss lives in E-town. I can tell by your posts how proud you are of where you live and you should be.

AuntieAnn said...

E-town -- You haven't spotted them at a drive-through carwash yet I hope?... lol.

I've been fascinated by their way of life since I watched "Witness" back in the '80s.

Nobody Likes a Narcissist said...

I think it's so funny that just because TLC sent her on one big trip out of the country, she now thinks she's a world traveler and is busy compiling an extremely long list of every country she wants to go to (on her "bucket list", gag). All first class, on TLC's dime, of course. All planned and arranged by TLC; she just shows up, AND she gets paid big money for it too! Man, is she going to be in for one big, rude awakening soon! Has she EVER planned and paid for even a day trip without TLC doing it all for her?

E-town Neighbor said...

gotyournumberKate said...

E-town...I love reading your posts. You're a great writer and what you say makes so much sense to me. I love your area. It's some of the prettiest countryside I have ever seen. It's so clean and beautiful. The farmland is breathtaking. My daughter lives with her husband and 2 daughters in Millersville and I love visiting the area. Actually my boss lives in E-town. I can tell by your posts how proud you are of where you live and you should be.

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Thanks so much! I appreciate that. I am proud of this area and its history. Millersville is a wonderful little community, a quintessential college town. I get there quite a bit, and in fact, was there just this morning. We're still under a tornado watch, and had a few very tense moments a bit ago when we were right in the middle of the warning box for a tornado. I hope everything is okay in your daughter's part of the county.

I've seen much of America and have traveled throughout this great land of ours (though not on the backs of my kids). America is industry, huge factories, and three million farms, the coalfields of Virginia and the gold fields, the mines of the West. It is the granite hills of Vermont, the seaport towns of New England, and the grainfields of the Midwest, the Grand Canyon and Plymouth Rock, the Black Hills and blues skies of the Dakotas, the majestic (or majestical!) redwoods and the Golden Gate. It is the mighty Mississippi and the Potomac and the great open spaces, rolling hills and valleys, snow-covered mountains and hot sandy deserts.

Kate's bucket list should include experiencing more of Americana at its best, rather than begging for overseas trips. I had to laugh when she tweeted that she didn't know what "Cork" was, but when told, said it was on her bucket list! She's going to need much more than a bucket - she'll have to buy an oil drum to hold everything on her list.

There's so much she's missing in her own back yard. Let her take her kids to these places in her own country first, and then let her wanderlust take her elsewhere in this great, big wonderful world...at her own expense, and without the camera crew. Would she ever do that? Not in a million.

Auntie - no Amish at the car wash yet, although I've seen (and smelled) some horses that could use a good hosing down! I was at the premiere here for Witness and attended the private champagne party. Kelly McGillis and Alexander Godunov were there. Sadly, though, no Viggo or Harrison, and he was the reason I went. I had a huge crush on him at the time and just wanted to look into his eyes...!!!

E-town Neighbor said...

I was reading on another blog that E! is thinking about hiring Kate, grooming her for some kind of job, but they realize that her language skills/diction need a considerable amount of work, and her PA accent is a cause of concern. I have no idea if the post is credible - I've had some red flags in the past about some of the things posted there.

That said, does anyone notice her "PA accent?" I don't hear it, but I'm around it all the time. Is it really that heavy and noticeable? To know what a real PA Dutch accent sounds like, the best place to hear it is down on a farm, or gather with the locals at the farmer's markets and auctions. I remember when I took an out-of-state friend of mine to a roadside fruit stand and the farmer told her that if she wanted apple cider or homemade birch beer, she should bring along an amteechuck. He kept repeating it, and I just about fell over laughing. I finally told her that what he was saying was "empty jug."

No regrets said...

Someone sent a message written backwards about the kids reading the tweets, Kate answered:

Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
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@Wishes201 Omg messages in code! I love it! Don't worry,kids haven't&won't ever read this twitter,my email ,except games Ans:already did.

The kids haven't and won't ever read twitter? Didn't she start the day off, SO content because Mady was sitting by her side READING the tweets? LOL

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JudyK said..
Nobody Likes a Narcissist said...
A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Thanks so much for BD wishes! And YES I had a huge lobster and wonderful time with family, thanks!

JudyK said...

Regarding the time change for her show on Monday night, it was obviously done to come on directly AFTER Dancing With the Stars, which is a huge draw. She could not compete with that show and if TLC tried to put her on during that time frame, her ratings would plummet beyond repair.

No regrets said...

JudyK said...Yes! Didn't think of that. Maybe I will write to TLC, as Kate asked the fans to do, and get the time changed for the show too. haha

I was reading about all the new shows TLC/Discovery have coming for this year. NO mention of Twisted Kate. BUT there is one show that SHOULD have been Kate's. PART 2: IDIOT ABROAD: BUCKET LIST. LOL I laughed so hard when I read this.

No regrets said...

Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
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@Haagse_Chick Omg holland! My dream trip-- windmills and tulips! I HAVE to see them! Tulips are one of my very favoritest flowers!

Another "dream trip" top of the list? sigh, what a lunatic

Linda G. said...

E-town neighbor: I'm a Texan and I can totally hear Kate's PA accent. On TV, of course, like E Television, they want you to sound like you're from nowhere, like a news anchor, and I can very clearly hear her accent.

Administrator said...

I can hear Kate's accent too. I lived in pa for several years. Jon's is even thicker. She would need voice lessons to help tone it down if the goal is to sound generic. I never understood why actors are expected to all sound the same.

She's Melting... said...

Kate's accent is overpowering and extremely heavy. Combine that with being totally inarticulate and no mastery of grammar, syntax, and vocabulary, I'd say she is not qualified for anything involving speech/speaking as the primary focus. She is simply ignorant, uneducated and a hick and she seems very proud of it, too.

E-town Neighbor said...

Linda G. said...

E-town neighbor: I'm a Texan and I can totally hear Kate's PA accent

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Her speech sounds normal to me, just like everyone else here! I went to college in PA and grad school in another state. It's really funny because at the PA college, everyone knew I was from Lancaster County, but at the out-of-state college, nobody could tell I was from PA. I guess within the state, there are different dialects, accents, common to the various counties. I remember being told that one could always tell a Lancaster County accent because of the rise in inflection of the last word in the sentence (kind of like you're asking a question, when, in fact, it's a statement...hard to explain). I don't hear that in Kate's speech.

There's a difference between a PA accent and a PA Dutch accent. In the PA Dutch accent, words would be pronounced differently, words in the sentences would be arranged out of order, such as "make the light out vonct," or "throw me the shirt down the stairs." When asked about her career, she would say, "I have a weel chop" ("I have a real job").

That accent doesn't come through, but it's the words, like slippy, sammonella, that crop up every so often. She hasn't used "rutschy" yet (restless, squirmy). Parents always say to their kids, "Don't be such a rutsch." I'm waiting for her to say, "there was a big fersammling" (gathering of people) and bloggers to say, "what in the heck is that?"

I would think that any of the networks would be extremely hesitant about hiring her, not only because of her accent, but because of her total lack of knowledge of current events, geography, and the ability to have a conversation focused on anything other than herself and her children. I also think this twittering frenzy is going to do her in. Anyone reading those things would see her as a total ditz.

Administrator said...

Kate's accent has more of a Philly/prussia influence to my ears. Just basing it on being surrounded by various pa accents when I lived there. And Jon sounds very Philly.
By the way the only car accident I was ever in was in pa. My friend was driving and the good people of pa who pulled over at night on a cold narrow highway to help us overwhelmed me and has left me with very fond memories of pa.

E-town Neighbor said...

Combine that with being totally inarticulate and no mastery of grammar, syntax, and vocabulary, I'd say she is not qualified for anything involving speech/speaking as the primary focus.

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What could she do where she wouldn't have to open her mouth? I agree. Linguists could work with her to lose the accent, speech pathologists could help her improve her diction, but she would have to go back to school to learn grammar, syntax and vocab. When the only two words within her grasp to describe something as being fantastic are "amazing" and "awesome," it's going to require a considerable amount of work to prep her for any kind of job that requires a knowledge of the English language. I don't think that she could utter one sentence without all of the 'ums' - she needs those to fill in the pregnant pauses as she struggles with what she is going to say next.

Administrator said...

Was she tweeting at church under the pew? There wasn't much break in her stream of consciousness.

E-town Neighbor said...

Combine that with being totally inarticulate and no mastery of grammar, syntax, and vocabulary, I'd say she is not qualified for anything involving speech/speaking as the primary focus.

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What could she do where she wouldn't have to open her mouth? I agree. Linguists could work with her to lose the accent, speech pathologists could help her improve her diction, but she would have to go back to school to learn grammar, syntax and vocab. When the only two words within her grasp to describe something as being fantastic are "amazing" and "awesome," it's going to require a considerable amount of work to prep her for any kind of job that requires a knowledge of the English language. I don't think that she could utter one sentence without all of the 'ums' - she needs those to fill in the pregnant pauses as she struggles with what she is going to say next.

Linda G. said...

E-town neighbor: I'm a Texan and I can totally hear Kate's PA accent. On TV, of course, like E Television, they want you to sound like you're from nowhere, like a news anchor, and I can very clearly hear her accent.

#losing said...

Add Paris and Rome along with the Netherlands to her "top of list". She should just tweet: It has been a life long dream of mine to travel anywhere TLC will take me! Everywhere is at the top of my list! Everywhere!!

Nobody Likes a Narcissist said...

No regrets: Happy Birthday! Enjoy the day with your family (and enjoy the lobster!).

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kat said...

Happy Birthday, No regrets :o)

fidosmommy said...

E-Town Neighbor mentioned book circles. Being read to was one of my favorite parts of childhood. One of my parents - or even my older brother - would either read or invent a story for me while I was going to sleep. I remember my Kindergarten and lower elementary teachers reading us one chapter of a book as part of our daily curriculum. I loved every bit of it. I understand that children who are read to as little kids do best with reading and writing and speaking skills. Whether that is true for me or not is still not decided, but it certainly was not a detriment to hear stories!
Winnie the Pooh. Mrs. Piggle Wiggle. The Borrowers. Fairy tales. Whatever. Just share some age appropriate literature with the kids!
In the winter my Dad and I would play Chinese Checkers in the rec room every Sunday night. Mom would sew on the big table in there. We chatted about nothing in particular. Cherished memories!

Kate has a rainy day in PA to fill her kids' heads with great stuff, and she sits there and twitters crap to strangers.

Kate may need to learn that it is possible to "make memories" and have "awesome experiences" right at home. It just takes the
involvement of a parent, who at the moment seems to be Kate - who is tweeting like mad. Is that to get her mind off the fact that she's not traveling anywhere soon? That she's stuck at home for awhile? Is she trying to float out of the house in an imaginary dream bubble of Kenya, "Korea", the Space Camp, etc.? That'll block out any thoughts of having to do something with the kids right NOW.

I'm very glad they have some unstructured play time, but at some point having a group activity might be nice. You know, something besides chasing your brother and whacking him in the head with a truck. I'll bet that's happened
at least twice today. Maybe that's the "tattling" Kate tweeted about.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Administrator said...

Of course, there's still the possibility she isn't the one tweeting or that someone else tweets for her, too.
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Need I explain why we can safely rule this possibility out? Come on now. :-)

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If you mean no one could possiblely sound as egotistical, self-absorbed, selfish and stupid as Kate, that's probably true.

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