Kate Plus 8 has been bouncing all around TLC's schedule. Tonight it's supposed to be at 10 p.m. EST, although oddly many DVRs (including DirectTv and Dish) are as of this hour still listing the slot as "To Be Announced." Which means DVR isn't going to pick up a new episode.
Notice Kate's child exploitation book in the background, I Just Want You to Know. Perhaps trying to unload the last few remaning copies?
Notice Kate's child exploitation book in the background, I Just Want You to Know. Perhaps trying to unload the last few remaning copies?
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Thank you for posting, "Anon on this." I always look forward to your posts! When you said "Kate got Steve back" can you comment further on why he was taken away? He must have a constitution of steel to put up with her.
It has always been suspected he was more of a babysitter than a bodyguard. It wasn't lost on many when it was reported that the two little ones who were having trouble in school had monitors.... just like their mother:(
In the early days of the show, I know there were several reports of excited fans who spotted Kate at Park City Mall where she would pick up her free Gymboree. They got the shock of their lives when Kate ripped them a new one for daring to speak to her. There was a similar incident at Target also, the person who approached Kate said one of the twins was with her and the little girl looked scared to death at her mother's outburst. Not long after that Steve came on the scene. Barely noticeable at first, but defintely more of a presence on her book tour where it could not be risked that Kate would treat the book-buying public like dirt.
A grown woman who requires another adult to run interference between herself and other adults as well as her children. And the sheeple insist we are jellus of this hot mess?
All this talk about dogs is really upsetting, because Kate is going to keep Shoka outside in a "heated" doghouse. I think that's so hideously cruel. It just makes me sick.
"Boo, The Humane Society calls leaving your dog outside potentially the most PSYCHOLOGICALLY DAMAGING thing you can do to your dog".
Maybe I wouldn't have understood the truth to this statement until I got a dog. They become such a part of the family I can't image leaving him outside all night, he'd be so lonely. We don't leave our dog alone during the day as we take him to my parents during the day while my husband and I work. I don't know who gets the most pleasure out of him staying there during the day, my parents or the dog. They love the dog so much that we sometimes take him over on our days off because they miss him so much.
Maybe Kate will change her mind and allow Shoka to be part of her family like a dog should be.
Faithful Companions said... Sooverit - I'd report them to the Humane Society. I don't know what climate you live in, but a St. Bernard cannot handle extreme heat! Not to mention all the other things you've mentioned...
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I second Faithful Companions motion -- REPORT these people. Animal abuse should not be tolerated, and those who commit it should be reported.
Judges don't rule based on television shows. I'm pretty sure that Kate's lawyer is aware of that.
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That's simply not true. I've had cases where "media" has come into evidence. A judge will look at anything if you can get it into evidence under the Evidence Code and if it's relevant. If the issue is the children being filmed, a judge would absolutely want to see exactly what is being filmed.
This episode was on last night, especially in regard to the dog coming home, to influence the Tuesday hearing and if a Judge can't see through that, he/she shouldn't be on the Bench.
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What does a dog coming home have to do with a custody/support hearing? The judge isn't making a decision to continue or end filming.
Trucker said...
I am pretty sure that Shoka isn't going to get to come in. Bart built a nice doghouse that is heated. No my choice at all, but Shoka will do better if out from under Kate's constant wrath.
I didn't watch the show so I have a question for anyone who did about what Trucker said. Am I understanding this correctly --- that Shoka has a heated dog house and is even sleeping in it at night? So, basically unless the children are outside playing with it, the dog is alone all the time? WTF? Or, is the dog house just for shelter/comfort when/if Shoka is outside?
Even the person that the Kate fans SWEAR is her mother seems not to know when the show was coming on!
Charlene Kolak Kreider According to the Guide--kate isn't on at 10---Maybe at 11--Who knows??
from facebook last night.
Anonymous, please don't use anonymous. The broad statement was made that "Judges don't rule based on television shows." I responded that that wasn't true. And I specifically said "IF THE ISSUE IS THE CHILDREN BEING FILMED" then a judge certainly might look at the episodes. I never said a judge was going to look at it for this hearing.
So not sure where you are coming from saying that the judge won't look at it because, according to you, the issue isn't filming. I didn't say the issue was filming, I said if it were, he could look at it. Frankly I'm not 100% clear what the issues are. If Jon wants more time with the kids he might very likely cite the filming as something negative. The gist I got was Jon wants more custodial time and less child support, which are directly related.
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You know I just read the wikipedia for Sister Wives for something for my recap, and it says the first season ended in October and the next will begin in March 2011. So for our DVR guides to tell us all not only that this was a Sister Wives episode but a NEW one is downright shifty.
Mistakes obviously DO happen on DVRs, but not usually across multiple guides, and not on prime time when ratings are most important. You are more likely to see a mistake or two, occasionally, at the Price is Right hour but now during prime time. This was not a case of TLC deciding at the last minute to change the schedule, they were advertising Kate Plus 8 at the 10pm slot a full week before Sunday. The whole thing is very very suspicious.
Anon on this:
Do you know if Jon has a lawyer for the hearing? Do you know if it's a good lawyer?
I love your posts - so interesting. Can you tell us more?
Charlene Kolak Kreider According to the Guide--kate isn't on at 10---Maybe at 11--Who knows??
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What? It's been advertised here on the guide channel as coming on at 10, with commercials popping up randomly for the 10 p.m. slot. It never was announced as TBA.
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You know I just read the wikipedia for Sister Wives for something for my recap, and it says the first season ended in October and the next will begin in March 2011. So for our DVR guides to tell us all not only that this was a Sister Wives episode but a NEW one is downright shifty.
Mistakes obviously DO happen on DVRs, but not usually across multiple guides, and not on prime time when ratings are most important. You are more likely to see a mistake or two, occasionally, at the Price is Right hour but now during prime time. This was not a case of TLC deciding at the last minute to change the schedule, they were advertising Kate Plus 8 at the 10pm slot a full week before Sunday. The whole thing is very very suspicious.
Suspicious, shifty, manipulative --- it wasn't just the guides that were misleading. I'm ticked off! My dvr thought it was taping Sister Wives, but instead I got Kate - something my household hasn't watched since the wedding redo in Hawaii.
I watched Sister Wives the week before Thanksgiving and TLC specifically said to watch for a new Sister Wives episode on November 28 along with a new Kate Plus 8.
TLC is for some reason finding it necessary to tweak their lineups from week to week based on ?ratings? to manipulate the numbers or maybe distance Palin from Kate. Whatever the motive - it's suspicious.
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Maybe Kate will change her mind and allow Shoka to be part of her family like a dog should be.
Kate brought Shoka back under very strict conditions. With Kate, everything is about control. That dog will NEVER be integrated into her household. She never really wanted the dirty, disease carrying dogs (those were words she used to the kids @ dogs) in the first place. It breaks my heart to know of the live Shoka will have because of her. I hold out hope that Nala may have a chance for a better life with a caring family.
We've seen how Kate directs and controls the kids (line up, sit down, pay attention, look at me when I'm talking) and she wanted it to be the same with the dogs when they first got them, but the dogs weren't cooperating - hence the bent bars of their cages.
TLC made darned sure Kate covered her butt legally with the ASPCA about providing the basics of care when it was decided to bring Shoka back. It's too bad they only remove animals from homes based on physical abuse and not phychological.
I have Time Warner Cable, and they, too, listed "Sister Wives" airing at 10 PM EST. IMO, if the ratings for K+8 are low, TLC has given themselves an out. They'll claim the ratings are low because the show wasn't listed.
The whole hour long episode can be described like this.
Kate becomes a she-devil, seriously that was her costume. Some costume, ha.
She brings the dogs home to undermine Jon and win the kids favor.
She fakes a moment with Collin, telling him she liked seeing him happy and hugs him in way to show she cares to back up "I took them out of school" cover up. Then tells from the chair that he is Angry Collin cause of the divorce. Says nothing about Lexi the whole episode to hide that one of the perfect girls has a issue.
Throwback trip to the first episode, it's almost identical filled with flashbacks with Jon cut out of them. Plus proof that these kids don't make memories, they make episode.
Kate ask them if they remember and they shout, "We have the episode!"
Is even more careless then normal by:
- Almost leaving three kids at hay bales.
- Loses track of all the kids in the pet store and uses the PA to call for them, twice cause the kids ignore her. Great way to announce to every crazy sheeple that they are there. They are lucky they didn't get kidnapped by a crazy or a pedo by their mother's stupidity. And don't tell me it was okay the store clerks were there. One of them could have taken them to the back room or something.
- Loses the twins and Joel in the corn maze, seriously not even the the crew was with them or Steve.
The rest of the tups almost run from her too.
Not good in a corn maze plus how crowded it was. Along with that creeper photographer Chris lurking.
Oh if the timing is correct on the episode which is possible by the outfits, they went from the store to the maze meaning Shooka was left in the back of the van the whole time.
- Kate gave all the tups sharp pumpkin knives and was letting them cut their pumpkins out which turned out them dangerously stabbing them. They are lucky they didn't stab themselves or each other.
Oh someone was asking this, yes Lexi didn't know what a triangle looked like.
The final thing, that is funny but a bit disturbing as well, what Cara dressed up as. They revealed when they went trick or treating or better known as Kate letting them run to houses rampantly.
Cara chose to costume as Cara Gosselin.And no she didn't just choose not to dress up, she chose to go as herself as if she was on the show. She patterned as to what she had on in Alaska. If it's not obvious she has realized she is famous and that's what is a bt disturbing, that a ten yearold is aware of her fame from her mother throwing her on a reality show about her life.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm not interested in seeing those kids filmed inside their home any more than I'm interested in the fake travel movies. With the age those kids are now, talk about an intrusive peep show. Can they seriously be thinking that cameras in those children's personal space is appropriate? Or that the audience would be interested in contrived scenarios from what should be their private homelife? Why won't anyone involved understand that this ship has sailed - the show is over and there's nothing more to be one with it. It's time to say goodbye to this dysfunctional family that Kate Gosselin created. No one is interested anymore.
Linda~
I totally agree with you. I have also never gotten the impression that Steve is "into" Kate in that way. Too many clues pointing away from that, IMO. The fact that his marriage still seems to be intact and his wife isn't saying a word, the fact that a good-looking guy (and I agree he is good-looking. Apparently short but certainly not an unattractive man by any means) like him would never have to settle for someone with her horrible personality, etc.
His wife Gina seems to be very nice and quiet, so why would he turn around and choose the total opposite? Generally speaking, when it comes to dysfunctions, there's a lid for every pot. Kate would only hook up with a guy like Jon...who she could control. It's the nature of the beast. Her narcissism would choose his passive-aggressiveness. Of course, she SAYS she wants a strong man but the reality is that her subconscious and her dysfunction would cause her to choose a guy like Jon every time.
Janelle and anon1~
I totally agree with both of you and thanks for your input regarding my post. Something is just way too "off" at this point. It's like TLC is trying desperately to breathe life back into a corpse. Something I've not seen them do with any of their other shows. It's business. If it's losing ratings, it goes. Nothing personal. So in this case, WHY?
And the leaks from the "sources" sound so accurate and this is what often happens when things are not what they appear to be. And I've thought for a long time that they had to have worries regarding her severe narcissistic personality disorder and rage issues.....in terms of what she might do were they to cancel her before the contract is up.
I would think that most reality stars would be happy to just collect their check for the duration of the contract if their show was canceled...though I'm sure they'd be disappointed, still getting paid would placate them quite well.
But not Kate, with her delusions of stardom. If she lost the last thing she's clinging to here, K+8, she could very well go ballistic and be totally unpredictable in terms of what she might do.
And I am SURE that she has plenty of dirt of TLC...although they probably have even more on her (though I think she could care less about any of that being revealed).
What is truly maddening is for someone to witness animal neglect and do NOTHING to report it to the authorities.
Also....TLC may very well be trying to get Kate a gig somewhere else, basically in order to unload her when the contract is up....without her going into a rage. This may be why she gets all these random gigs....The View, SWTS, ET, etc. They may be desperately trying to find some sort of substitute because with Kate, it is critical to not take everything away from her....to take away her last link to her delusions of stardom.
And for this reason, they could even be worried about what she might do even IF they waited until the contract had expired. She STILL might freak out if they canceled her even then.....IF it was her last link to celebrity. That is, unless they could find her a substitute gig to keep her busy.
Because just having the contract expire doesn't totally eliminate the problem....as Kate is likely to blow a fuse when they cancel her even IF they wait until the contract is expired. I have rarely, if ever, seen a reality star hold a corporation hostage due to a contract. I'm sure it's included in the contract that the show can be canceled but they have to continue to pay until the end of the contract time period. But in this case, everything seems to NOT be going the way it normally would. And I suspect this is because with Kate, they did indeed take on a double-edged sword....and her NPD is SO severe that she may very well be holding them hostage at the current time.
And boy, you'd have to have some whopper of a personality disorder in order to hold a huge corporation hostage, wouldn't you? Whew.
Sorry...me again. Just one question, if anybody happens to know anything regarding this:
What exactly gives the Nielsen system its rating points? Do they get it if the person is simply scrolling through the channels and that station happens to be one they scroll through and check out what it is for a few seconds and then continue to scroll?
Do they get it if the person happens to be tuned to that channel but switches it as soon as he/she realizes it's a show he/she doesn't want to watch?
OR...does the person have to tune in that station and not switch it (STAY on that channel) for a certain period of time in order to be a part of the ratings?
Just how technically deceptive can these Nielsen's be?
Denise said...
Even the person that the Kate fans SWEAR is her mother seems not to know when the show was coming on!
Charlene Kolak Kreider According to the Guide--kate isn't on at 10---Maybe at 11--Who knows??
from facebook last night.
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Well, why didn't Charlene ring Kateie's 6th pink iphone and ask her what time she was on?
Oh, that's right...her daughter cut ties with her.
Silly me.
dee3...I agree. Kate seems very vindictive. Even though TLC gave her everything, she would have no problem turning around & stabbing them right in the back if they canceled her show/shows. She would throw them under the bus in a milisecond & say "I didn't exploit my kids, TLC made me do it". Of course, hopefully, people would see right through it. Maybe that's why she's going on Today? Maybe she DID get canceled & she's going on The Today show to slam TLC. Wouldn't that be something? (I really like your posts dee3, btw.) :)
Of course we all know she's going on & talking about the expulsions, the court hearing, & how broke she is. BOO HOO. We can all see through your lies Kate. It's not gonna work anymore Kate! Quit lying!!
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I read the updated rules. :) May I continue to use "anon on this"? I will change it if you like.
"Steve is Kate's personal attendant. There is nothing in his job about guarding or protecting the kids. The things he does with and for the kids is supposedly to keep Kate calm so that she can continue to film."
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If this is true, it would certainly be consistent with the flight attendant's recent account of the Philly/LA trip. Steve and the flight attendants got stuck watching the kids, while Kate dozed soundly in her seat.
I just watched parts 1 & 2 on youtube. I am disgusted by the discussion of Collin. Either this is her way of spinning the story or she is further exploiting him by sharing his emotional problems on national television. Either way it's repulsive.
And for the petty issues - who wants to see a Halloween show when we just launched the Xmas season? The only other time the kids have gone to get pumpkins was when they filmed it when they were 2 years old? She thinks she's relating to other moms by throwing everything she sees into a shopping cart without looking at the price? Grr.....
I didn't watch the show so I have a question for anyone who did about what Trucker said. Am I understanding this correctly --- that Shoka has a heated dog house and is even sleeping in it at night? So, basically unless the children are outside playing with it, the dog is alone all the time? WTF? Or, is the dog house just for shelter/comfort when/if Shoka is outside?
I watched the show. Kate told the kids that Shoka would be sleeping outside in a "nice heated doghouse on the patio" or words to that effect. She didn't say anything about letting the dog in the house during the day. I think it's cruel to keep a dog outside during the brutally cold winter nights even if the DO have a heated doghouse. What if the heater malfunctioned one night in subzero weather?? The whole thing stinks in my opinion--separating the two dogs, then Kate talking about bringing the other dog Nala over for visits?? The dogs aren't going to understand that!! Kate should not have any kind of animals to care for--kids either for that matter.
SOOVERIT...we also have a German Shepherd that we adore & she sheds like mad! It's constant vaccuming, sweeping, lint brushing, etc, but she is SUCH a great dog. She would do anything to protect us. And my neighbor is a terrible dog owner as well. They has a Bull Mastif, a HUGE dog, who never gets to run. They barely walk her. This poor dog is confined to the indoors because the owner is so lazy. We walk our dog every day even though we have a fenced in yard (I have to get outside & walk & what better co. than a dog?)Plus, it's great for shepherds. They need to DO something, or like I stated above, they start running the fence. And Kate keeping her dog outdoors? I don't care if it's a heated doghouse; it's not right. A dog needs companionship. East coast winters are brutal also. What is the point of having a dog if you aren't going to let the poor thing inside? This burns me. I HATE seeing seeing dogs outside constantly, whether it's in the summer or winter. A dog needs love. She has no right having that animal. And the way she treated her dogs before & why she brought the dog back...it's all wrong.
What happens when one of the kids does something threatening to the dog & it protects itself? What then? Will Kate go to extremes & put the dog down because she is the "Mommy of the year" & she is just protecting her kids? Her kids who don't know how to behave because Kate never taught them how...Again, this just upsets me to no end. I'm in my right mind to report her to PETA.
Liar, liar, pants on fire fits Kate G. to a tee! The twist and spin going on with her (and Jon) has been playing us for years.
So over it, and sick to death that one of the dogs came back. So sorry for the dog and the kids. This is an ugly story. It's all about money and more money. They are still being supported with advertisers and will be until "the cows come home." Somebody bigger than us loves Kate G. and the controversy she brings. It also attracts advertising. Again, so over it.
Best wishes to you all who care and post here.
Michelle said - I really need to make a resolution to stay away from the Kate boards/blogs. I've been following the blogs for over a year and all it appears to be doing is increasing my frustration.
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Michelle - me too! I really wonder what all our commentary on Kate's every move contributes to her fame and fortune. It's like trying to look away from a bad accident - it's hard to do! Our recent discussion about dogs has been interesting. Maybe we could drop Kate and find more interesting things to talk about. I think my New Year's resolution might be to put all things Gosselin completely out of my life. I don't watch or click on anything, but I still visit the blogs. She won't go away until we end our fascination with her.
Regarding contacting the Humane Society about my neighbor's dog - I'm going to do that. I doubt they will take action because it's not illegal to chain a dog to a doghouse although I wish it was. I wish Cesar Milan would pay them a visit - I love him!
Check out today's news for Kate Gosselin. Not too flattering, yet again. Apparently she's LONELY and has nobody. BUT the "news" article goes on to say that maybe this is karma? She's only interested in appearances, she's very stand-off"ish", nobody in her town likes her. She's alienated family and friends and the only person she feels close to is her "paid" bodyguard who is married with 2 kids.
She thinks she's relating to other moms by throwing everything she sees into a shopping cart without looking at the price? Grr.....
The whole episode was scripted to show what a wonderful mother Kate is. Her talk with Collin on the hay bale; the sitting on the couch explaining how she didn't like Halloween, but heck, the kids like it, so she'll go ALL OUT to make it fun because she's a wonderful mom; carving 8 (!) pumpkins ever though she's never carved a pumpkin in her life!! She filled 4 baskets full of stuff to the haunted basement.
When the dog came home, off they went to the pet store where she bought enough Krap for a whole kennel of dogs. It looked like she was feeding the dog stuff as they went up and down the aisles. I'm surprised the dog didn't barf all over the floor. She was absolutely higher than a kite, showing what a caring, wonderful mom she is. It was very strange. I can't imagine how much money she spent on all the Halloween Krap, costumes, dog treats, accessories, toys. I'm sure she shelled out more money than many, many families will be able to spend on Christmas this year.
It almost looked like a desperate attempt to keep custody of her kids..."Look at me, see what a good mom I am." It was over the top, as though she was on some kind of bipolar high.
Dee3, here's a link to some information on Nielsen ratings:
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question433.htm
Awwww ... poor kHate.
You guys called it - she is playing the 'poor me' card this week and TLC is spinning it:
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/11/exclusive-kate-gosselin-sad-lonely-insider-says
Convenient that the article doesnt point out that its ALL because of her own doing.
"Even her kids have noticed that their mom is sometimes too tired to play with them when the cameras are not rolling,"
HAHAHA, when has she EVER played with those kids?
I agree that Kate was subdued and uncharacteristically 'caring' towards Collin in this episode (but alexis can fend for herself,apparently). My thoughts exactly, kite, was that she was medicated. Remember how much calmer and nicer she was to Jon in the episodes where she looked blotto? Same demeanor here. Also, it would make sense why she was sleeping on Halloween. If she were already drunk/asleep, she wouldn't have gone out at all. I suspect she stayed upright that night until the meds and wine kicked in. Anyway, I found that she was nicer to the kids than usual, but it seemed contrived to me. And I worry for poor Shoka. Kate says they have been talking about him 'every day' yet alexis had to ask Kate what his name was after the big reveal. Oh, and Kite, I don't think Kate paid for any of the dog stuff, hence the greedy show at the pet store. She cannot help herself, even tho she can pay for it herself and it makes her look bad. If it's on tlc's dime, she goes crazy.
I just googled how the Nielsen ratings were determined and found the following on Wikipedia, but also the same information was found elsewhere.
"Only a small fraction of the population is selected and only those that actually accept are used as the sample size. There are only 25,000 total American households that participate in the Nielsen daily metered system. The number of U.S. television households as of 2009 is 114,500,000. As a result, the total number of Nielsen homes only amounts to 0.02183% of the total American television households, meaning that 99.97817% of American households have no input at all into what is actually being watched." Sources cited were: EN-US.nielsen.com and TVB.org
I thought this quote best explained how the ratings work. The link to this entire article is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_ratings
We were visiting family for thanksgiving in the sinking spring/wernersville area and the weather for thanksgiving was COLD, COLD, COLD. We woke up w/ it snowing which didn't stick then it later turned to rain and some ice later. So to put the kids out in the clothing she did just for pics from Chris is RIDICULOUS!!!!!!
Higher than a Kite said...
She thinks she's relating to other moms by throwing everything she sees into a shopping cart without looking at the price? Grr.....
The whole episode was scripted to show what a wonderful mother Kate is. Her talk with Collin on the hay bale; the sitting on the couch explaining how she didn't like Halloween, but heck, the kids like it, so she'll go ALL OUT to make it fun because she's a wonderful mom; carving 8 (!) pumpkins ever though she's never carved a pumpkin in her life!! She filled 4 baskets full of stuff to the haunted basement.
When the dog came home, off they went to the pet store where she bought enough Krap for a whole kennel of dogs. It looked like she was feeding the dog stuff as they went up and down the aisles. I'm surprised the dog didn't barf all over the floor. She was absolutely higher than a kite, showing what a caring, wonderful mom she is. It was very strange. I can't imagine how much money she spent on all the Halloween Krap, costumes, dog treats, accessories, toys. I'm sure she shelled out more money than many, many families will be able to spend on Christmas this year.
I don't think she spent a cent of the kids money. It was paid for by TLC - written off as production expenses for the show.
Sooverit, what your neighbours are doing to their dog is abusive. Isn't there an SPCA or other humane society you can call to report those neighours?
Interesting review of this Kate Plus 8 episode. Its intriguing how Kate Gosselin can keep a straight face during all of her promos while "ruling" over her kids in order to control them. Fun post.
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm not interested in seeing those kids filmed inside their home any more than I'm interested in the fake travel movies.
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What more can they do, and when can they do it? The kids are in school all day, and it's dark by the time they get home. We've already seen the refrigerator cleaning, making sandwiches, grilling chicken sammonella, collecting eggs, power washing the house, planting trees, looking for coupons, new window screens, discovering the filterish thing for the water softener, pooping and needing help to wipe, crooked houses, haircuts, dental visits, Party City shopping, campouts, new cycles, crating dogs, the "mine, all mine" acreage, kitchen remodel, ad nauseum.
What more could possibly be left that we have no desire to see?
"the not-so-private-moment with Colin". It bothered me that during a really happy period in his life when he was just having fun being a little boy...she had to stop him to tell him how happy she was to see him happy and remind him that he has "issues". Why not let him have a good time and later that night when you are tucking him into bed, at that time share what a great day it was. It just bothered me on her timing. I'm not sure if I'm expressing myself clearly...so lets say you break up with your boyfriend, Bob. You've been depressed, crying and just staying home. Your girlfriends take you out for a girls night. Finally, you start having a good time and one of your friends come up to you and tell you they are glad you aren't thinking of Bob and are having a good time. Now wouldn't that put you right back in the funk you were in because now you are thinking about Bob. That's how I felt what she did with Colin.
anon on this -- So Steve is protecting Kate from Kate? TLC took him away and then gave him back? Talk about re-gifting! What the Lord giveth, the Lord also taketh away!
How sad is it when an adult has to have someone with her to keep her calm and under control? What happens when he's not around to do this, and she has to interact with the children all by herself? Who is there to protect her from herself, and also protect her kids from her?
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When the dog came home, off they went to the pet store where she bought enough Krap for a whole kennel of dogs. It looked like she was feeding the dog stuff as they went up and down the aisles. I'm surprised the dog didn't barf all over the floor. She was absolutely higher than a kite, showing what a caring, wonderful mom she is. It was very strange. I can't imagine how much money she spent on all the Halloween Krap, costumes, dog treats, accessories, toys. I'm sure she shelled out more money than many, many families will be able to spend on Christmas this year.
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I'll bet Kart was on Cloud 9 stuffing her shopping cart like a kid on a shopping spree at Toys R Us. It's easy to spend someone else's money. We can safely guarantee TLC pays for every purchase Kate makes while filming. I don't care that she gets free stuff like that, but I don't like the deception that goes into it. I'm just glad there are other people sharp enough to see the truth.
Carol, I understand you perfectly. But, if Kate had done that with Collin as he was getting into bed (I doubt she tucks them all in), the cameras wouldn't have been there to catch on film what a perfect mother she is. She was on some kind of weird tear to get that message out LOUD AND CLEAR.
When there are new pictures or information on Radar, TMZ, etc I like to click on to see what the new info is. However, I never click on the actual article but just look at what you can see on the main site. Then I make a point of clicking on someone elses story to give them the credit for me coming to Radar etc. I love to give the credit to some other loser instead of Kate and sometimes I will click on the story of everyone on Radar except Kate. Hope that makes sense to you but it works for me, feel like I give my own little dig to Kate.
Carol, That sounds positively eerie. Has anyone seen the Hitchcock movie “Gaslight”? The husband used to do that sort of thing to his wife to keep her under his thumb; doubting her sanity. Sounds like Mommy Dearest is not the only movie Kate could star in.
Carol, I get what you are saying. Also, it sounds like it was not spontaneous, but rather a way to highlight Kate and make it appear that she is working with him to overcome his issues. That moment was about Kate, not about Collin.
RE: the ads the show up under the pics at inf
Those are just ads that are like google ads, but they are using a different service (gumgum it looks like). They are based on search words or words that appear on the page and they are used to bring revenue to the site.
No great conspiracy going on. It's just a form of monetizing a website.
We have all known this about the locals for YEARS:
http://www.metrowny.com/blogs/archives/836-Kate_Gosselin_disliked_by_the_residents_of_her_hometown.html
Excerpt from article:
Sources also say that Kate Gosselin is lonely and has few friends and can't turn to her family. It looks like it will be a blue Christmas for Kate but I guess that's the price you sometimes have to pay for fame.
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Kate has friends?...
Outdoor dogs. I hate the whole "outdoor" dogs concept. Why get a dog if you are going to chain it up in the backyard (or let it run loose in the yard in Kate's case, I guess) 24/7/365 and not interact with it in any meaningful way.
I have done rescue for a toy breed for about 13 years now and used to be very involved in the national breed club rescue organization. We would get applications where people had a big "outdoor" dog and wanted a small dog for their "indoor" dog.
Having an "outdoor" dog was an automatic disqualification for getting one of our rescues, but it was tricky to tell people because I didn't want to give them too much information that would enable them to get a small dog from another rescue because they knew not to talk about the big dog being strictly "outdoor" the next place they went.
If you can put a big dog outdoors 24/7, nothing will stop you from doing it to *any* dog that becomes too much hassle for you.
I don't even let my toy dogs go outside alone in my backyard which has a 6 foot privacy fence because I worry something can happen to them (they are small).
If ever there was a person that should not own a dog, it's Kate. I said that when they first got the dogs. I weep for both those dogs and that breeder (I use that term loosely) really must be being paid well by TLC to do this to his dogs :(
The reporting outlet, TVbytheNumbers explains their counting procedures here: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/demystifying-the-s and here:
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/demystifying-the-s
So far nothing reported about Sunday night's show.
Interesting...on the Kate+8 TLC website, the descriptive under the picture of the dog reads "Kate's Big Surprise: Shoka Visits!" A "visit" doesn't sound too permanent to me. I don't expect that the dog is there to stay. It's being used again.
To quote the Fug Girls:
Kate, look into pants.
Does anyone know if John really did let the chickens out of the coop while he was drunk? Is that why he is banished from the Konpound?
readerlady said...
I have Time Warner Cable, and they, too, listed "Sister Wives" airing at 10 PM EST. IMO, if the ratings for K+8 are low, TLC has given themselves an out. They'll claim the ratings are low because the show wasn't listed.
OR, they'll show good ratings for Kate+8 because Sister Wives is one of TLC's top rated shows and draws many more viewers than Kate.
she's sad, too bad! Her kids have been sad for over a year.
Hope court went terrible for her today, would love to see Jon get the house and the kids and her get... well, the shaft!
Kate told the kids that Shoka was staying outside and would have a doghouse with a heated bed. I think he won't be there long, he and Nala will probably be together again before you know it.
Did anyone mention Collin eating the dog cookie? He bit into it so quickly, kid must have been starving!
I am concerned about the dog coming back to children with agression issues. We raised 5 boys (all grown now) and always had pets. Our children were taught to be kind,respectful,responsible and gentle with the animals. However, they would rough house with each other and the dogs would get upset and they would nip to try and stop what they saw as someone getting hurt.
I worry that Kate's lack of concern with her children's agressiveness toward each other will result in a "bite" and the dog being labeled agressive or that the children will assume that since hitting each other is tolerated that hitting the dog is OK also. Even well trained dogs will react badly to being physically abused.
Millions of children are bitten every year by cats,dogs and even bunnies that have been hurt by the child. Children should never be allowed to be unsupervised with any animal, for both the child's sake and the animals.
Admin, I think we agree -- there is a right and wrong way to keep an outdoor dog or an indoor dog. A dog can be abused or well-treated either indoors or out. It all depends on the climate, shelter conditions and lifestyle and commitment of the owner.
Again, this just upsets me to no end. I'm in my right mind to report her to PETA.
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PETA? Yuck, report them to the Humane society in Berks County or Wernersville. If you remember, when Jon made the comment (and there were pics of the kids hitting one of the dogs w/a plastic baseball bat) about the kids hitting on the dogs, the SPCA did come to their house due to reports, from viewers IIRC. There was a pic of them talking to Kate in the driveway.
lalaland said,
"I just watched parts 1 and 2 on youtube."
How did you find these? I just spent over an hour replaying that stupid teaser with Hate blah blah blahing on the couch. Can you tell me where to go to watch the actual videos, please? Thanks so much.
alana
Just me said- I totally agree with you, that kate should NEVER have dogs! It really makes me mad, that the 2 were split up, and now only Shoka returns. I also don't think he will be there very long. He belongs his litter-mate. And I have raised small breed dogs myself,and did it not for money(my dog prices were dirt cheap), I did it so families could have love and happiness, by having a new family member. I was told I was overly strict, when deciding what type of family that puppy was going to, but even though I sold those puppies, I felt that I was forever responsible for them,as I was the one who allowed them to be born. I have 3 small ones, and a larger rescue dog, an awesome Border Collie-he is so smart and well behaved, and I fell in love with him from the moment I saw him. If these dogs were really sent away to be properly trained, then they did it all wrong. They needed to be trained WITH the gosselin kids, not without them. To a dog, small children are different than adults, they talk different,act different, and even smell different. I hope Shoka goes back "home" really soon. He does not belong with kate. If she can't show love and happiness when with her own flesh and blood, how is the world could she ever love a dog?
I don't know what went wrong with Collin. He used to be her number 1 boy, her helper boy. He was gregarious and funny and energetic and gathered up all the toys and tried to stack things and now he is so quiet and hardly speaks and I have not seen him smile in ages in the pics and very thin almost wane. Haven't watched the show or the clips. It would break my heart.
Khate has a stupid new blog up, her mantra is now the theme song to the Sound of Music. Yeah, yeah climb every mountain - kinda like the way she tackled DWTS I guess huh.
Kate + 8 didn't make Cable's Top 25 for the week. The lowest viewership of the Top 25 was 3.83 million, so we know Kate was lower than that. In fact, none of the TLC shows made the top. SpongeBob owned the place, LOL.
Still waiting on all the cable numbers...
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/11/30/cable-top-25-nfl-college-football-the-walking-dead-victorious-and-wwe-raw-top-weeks-cable-viewing/73781
Here's a heads up to any Today Show watchers. Kate is scheduled to be on tomorrow (Wed. 12/1). Just a warning if you want to avoid her.
BTW, I get TV Guide and I noticed that Kate+8 was not scheduled in it lineup. TBA in that period. I agree with all that think TLC was trying to pull a fast one to get viewers under false pretenses.
Courtesy of TVBYTHENUMBERS:
KateSucks
Posted November 30, 2010 at 4:25 PM
Mr Seidman, would you or Travis be able to tell us how TLC’s ‘bait and switch’ of Kate Plus 8 and Sister Wives did in the Sunday 11/28 10pm time slot. Most programming guides had SP’s Alaska from 7-10pm, Sister Wives at 10pm and TBA at 11pm. Be interesting to find out of TLC’s deception pulled in more viewers for Kate or if the channel was switched as soon as the screaming Gosselins came on.
Thanks as always.
Robert Seidman
Posted November 30, 2010 at 4:30 PM
@Kate – definitely not a performance that would make the retentionistas happy – it lost more than half the viewers from Sarah Palin’s Alaska, though at 1.302 million was still TLC’s 7th most watched telecast of the week.
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1.302 million watchers...
Katie Irene's ratings are slowly, but surely slipping on a banana peel.
Come on folks, we can do better.
The "haters" are still watching.
Aeris said... High as a Kite said:
When the dog came home, off they went to the pet store where she bought enough Krap for a whole kennel of dogs. It looked like she was feeding the dog stuff as they went up and down the aisles. I'm surprised the dog didn't barf all over the floor. She was absolutely higher than a kite, showing what a caring, wonderful mom she is. It was very strange. I can't imagine how much money she spent on all the Halloween Krap, costumes, dog treats, accessories, toys. I'm sure she shelled out more money than many, many families will be able to spend on Christmas this year.
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I'll bet Kart was on Cloud 9 stuffing her shopping cart like a kid on a shopping spree at Toys R Us. It's easy to spend someone else's money. We can safely guarantee TLC pays for every purchase Kate makes while filming. I don't care that she gets free stuff like that, but I don't like the deception that goes into it. I'm just glad there are other people sharp enough to see the truth.
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True Kate fashion- Stuffing her cart full of excessive Halloween items at Party City and then at the pet store, with TLC paying the tab for everything. She is an excessive greedy glutton. Would love to know TLC's tab for that episode. It is almost like when Kate does not get an expensive trip to film, she feels TLC should somehow pay the same amount in perks, as she is the entitled one. She really is vile. What does this teach her kids? No wonder they are confused.
SPCA said:
PETA? Yuck, report them to the Humane society in Berks County or Wernersville. If you remember, when Jon made the comment (and there were pics of the kids hitting one of the dogs w/a plastic baseball bat) about the kids hitting on the dogs, the SPCA did come to their house due to reports, from viewers IIRC. There was a pic of them talking to Kate in the driveway.
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I do not remember anything about the SPCA going to their house or any pictures. As I remember the Humane Society in Berks County (there isn't one in Wernersvlle) was called and they stated somewhere that they were in contact by phone with someone at the Gosseline house and felt that the information they were given was sufficient enough for them to decide the dogs were fine. They never went to the house to investigate. Apparently, they are like everyone else in the area and are too afraid to go up against the Gosselins. I live in the area and I remember writing the Humane Society an email stating how angry I was about how they handled the situation. No reply to that email but a while later I got an email soliciting for donations!
Can we talk about Collin eating a dog cookie in this week's show! Do you know how hungry a child has to be to eat a dog cookie? My child would never think to bit a dog cookie. Collin must have been really hungry. This breaks my heart. Starving a child is a form of serious abuse. One thing that has really bugs me is all the people on the show that have worked directly with the family and have seen some type of abuse and do nothing about it. To me, if anyone on the production staff has seen any type of abuse or neglect of the children and have done nothing about it, then the staff are just as guilty as Kate. The staff will some day have to answer the children's question of "why did you do nothing?"
Regarding the dog just being left in the back yard : I have 5 month old puppy and he CRIES and is very SAD if I don't play with him at least for a little while every day, or if I don't pet him, or take him out for a walk and spend quality time with him..same thing with my grandparents' adult dogs.A dog needs more than just a crate/house/basket(if it's tiny like mine is),food and water and even toys...He need someone to PLAY with him and the toys,someone to spend quality time with him, if you can train him yourself instead of taking him to an obedience trainer you will bond even more with him.The whole dog story is so screwed up!
@ Stop the abuse
While I agree with you that Kate is an abusive person and that she doesn't feed those kids properly, I don't think that a kid sampling a dog biscuit can be taken as proof of starvation. I remember nibbling on a dog biscuit when I was a kid, and I was far from starved. I also agree with you that the production staff are culpable if they don't report any abuse or mistreatment that they witness - of the kids OR of the dog. However, if they've been forced to sign confidentiality agreements, I can see why they would be afraid to do so.
Can we talk about Collin eating a dog cookie in this week's show! Do you know how hungry a child has to be to eat a dog cookie? My child would never think to bit a dog cookie. Collin must have been really hungry. This breaks my heart. Starving a child is a form of serious abuse. One thing that has really bugs me is all the people on the show that have worked directly with the family and have seen some type of abuse and do nothing about it. To me, if anyone on the production staff has seen any type of abuse or neglect of the children and have done nothing about it, then the staff are just as guilty as Kate. The staff will some day have to answer the children's question of "why did you do nothing?"
Aeris said... High as a Kite said:
When the dog came home, off they went to the pet store where she bought enough Krap for a whole kennel of dogs. It looked like she was feeding the dog stuff as they went up and down the aisles. I'm surprised the dog didn't barf all over the floor. She was absolutely higher than a kite, showing what a caring, wonderful mom she is. It was very strange. I can't imagine how much money she spent on all the Halloween Krap, costumes, dog treats, accessories, toys. I'm sure she shelled out more money than many, many families will be able to spend on Christmas this year.
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I'll bet Kart was on Cloud 9 stuffing her shopping cart like a kid on a shopping spree at Toys R Us. It's easy to spend someone else's money. We can safely guarantee TLC pays for every purchase Kate makes while filming. I don't care that she gets free stuff like that, but I don't like the deception that goes into it. I'm just glad there are other people sharp enough to see the truth.
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True Kate fashion- Stuffing her cart full of excessive Halloween items at Party City and then at the pet store, with TLC paying the tab for everything. She is an excessive greedy glutton. Would love to know TLC's tab for that episode. It is almost like when Kate does not get an expensive trip to film, she feels TLC should somehow pay the same amount in perks, as she is the entitled one. She really is vile. What does this teach her kids? No wonder they are confused.
Courtesy of TVBYTHENUMBERS:
KateSucks
Posted November 30, 2010 at 4:25 PM
Mr Seidman, would you or Travis be able to tell us how TLC’s ‘bait and switch’ of Kate Plus 8 and Sister Wives did in the Sunday 11/28 10pm time slot. Most programming guides had SP’s Alaska from 7-10pm, Sister Wives at 10pm and TBA at 11pm. Be interesting to find out of TLC’s deception pulled in more viewers for Kate or if the channel was switched as soon as the screaming Gosselins came on.
Thanks as always.
Robert Seidman
Posted November 30, 2010 at 4:30 PM
@Kate – definitely not a performance that would make the retentionistas happy – it lost more than half the viewers from Sarah Palin’s Alaska, though at 1.302 million was still TLC’s 7th most watched telecast of the week.
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1.302 million watchers...
Katie Irene's ratings are slowly, but surely slipping on a banana peel.
Come on folks, we can do better.
Kate + 8 didn't make Cable's Top 25 for the week. The lowest viewership of the Top 25 was 3.83 million, so we know Kate was lower than that. In fact, none of the TLC shows made the top. SpongeBob owned the place, LOL.
Still waiting on all the cable numbers...
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/11/30/cable-top-25-nfl-college-football-the-walking-dead-victorious-and-wwe-raw-top-weeks-cable-viewing/73781
Carol, I understand you perfectly. But, if Kate had done that with Collin as he was getting into bed (I doubt she tucks them all in), the cameras wouldn't have been there to catch on film what a perfect mother she is. She was on some kind of weird tear to get that message out LOUD AND CLEAR.
Interesting review of this Kate Plus 8 episode. Its intriguing how Kate Gosselin can keep a straight face during all of her promos while "ruling" over her kids in order to control them. Fun post.
I didn't watch the show so I have a question for anyone who did about what Trucker said. Am I understanding this correctly --- that Shoka has a heated dog house and is even sleeping in it at night? So, basically unless the children are outside playing with it, the dog is alone all the time? WTF? Or, is the dog house just for shelter/comfort when/if Shoka is outside?
I watched the show. Kate told the kids that Shoka would be sleeping outside in a "nice heated doghouse on the patio" or words to that effect. She didn't say anything about letting the dog in the house during the day. I think it's cruel to keep a dog outside during the brutally cold winter nights even if the DO have a heated doghouse. What if the heater malfunctioned one night in subzero weather?? The whole thing stinks in my opinion--separating the two dogs, then Kate talking about bringing the other dog Nala over for visits?? The dogs aren't going to understand that!! Kate should not have any kind of animals to care for--kids either for that matter.
I just watched parts 1 & 2 on youtube. I am disgusted by the discussion of Collin. Either this is her way of spinning the story or she is further exploiting him by sharing his emotional problems on national television. Either way it's repulsive.
And for the petty issues - who wants to see a Halloween show when we just launched the Xmas season? The only other time the kids have gone to get pumpkins was when they filmed it when they were 2 years old? She thinks she's relating to other moms by throwing everything she sees into a shopping cart without looking at the price? Grr.....
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm not interested in seeing those kids filmed inside their home any more than I'm interested in the fake travel movies. With the age those kids are now, talk about an intrusive peep show. Can they seriously be thinking that cameras in those children's personal space is appropriate? Or that the audience would be interested in contrived scenarios from what should be their private homelife? Why won't anyone involved understand that this ship has sailed - the show is over and there's nothing more to be one with it. It's time to say goodbye to this dysfunctional family that Kate Gosselin created. No one is interested anymore.
The whole hour long episode can be described like this.
Kate becomes a she-devil, seriously that was her costume. Some costume, ha.
She brings the dogs home to undermine Jon and win the kids favor.
She fakes a moment with Collin, telling him she liked seeing him happy and hugs him in way to show she cares to back up "I took them out of school" cover up. Then tells from the chair that he is Angry Collin cause of the divorce. Says nothing about Lexi the whole episode to hide that one of the perfect girls has a issue.
Throwback trip to the first episode, it's almost identical filled with flashbacks with Jon cut out of them. Plus proof that these kids don't make memories, they make episode.
Kate ask them if they remember and they shout, "We have the episode!"
Is even more careless then normal by:
- Almost leaving three kids at hay bales.
- Loses track of all the kids in the pet store and uses the PA to call for them, twice cause the kids ignore her. Great way to announce to every crazy sheeple that they are there. They are lucky they didn't get kidnapped by a crazy or a pedo by their mother's stupidity. And don't tell me it was okay the store clerks were there. One of them could have taken them to the back room or something.
- Loses the twins and Joel in the corn maze, seriously not even the the crew was with them or Steve.
The rest of the tups almost run from her too.
Not good in a corn maze plus how crowded it was. Along with that creeper photographer Chris lurking.
Oh if the timing is correct on the episode which is possible by the outfits, they went from the store to the maze meaning Shooka was left in the back of the van the whole time.
- Kate gave all the tups sharp pumpkin knives and was letting them cut their pumpkins out which turned out them dangerously stabbing them. They are lucky they didn't stab themselves or each other.
Oh someone was asking this, yes Lexi didn't know what a triangle looked like.
The final thing, that is funny but a bit disturbing as well, what Cara dressed up as. They revealed when they went trick or treating or better known as Kate letting them run to houses rampantly.
Cara chose to costume as Cara Gosselin.And no she didn't just choose not to dress up, she chose to go as herself as if she was on the show. She patterned as to what she had on in Alaska. If it's not obvious she has realized she is famous and that's what is a bt disturbing, that a ten yearold is aware of her fame from her mother throwing her on a reality show about her life.
ladyblue said...
Maybe Kate will change her mind and allow Shoka to be part of her family like a dog should be.
Kate brought Shoka back under very strict conditions. With Kate, everything is about control. That dog will NEVER be integrated into her household. She never really wanted the dirty, disease carrying dogs (those were words she used to the kids @ dogs) in the first place. It breaks my heart to know of the live Shoka will have because of her. I hold out hope that Nala may have a chance for a better life with a caring family.
We've seen how Kate directs and controls the kids (line up, sit down, pay attention, look at me when I'm talking) and she wanted it to be the same with the dogs when they first got them, but the dogs weren't cooperating - hence the bent bars of their cages.
TLC made darned sure Kate covered her butt legally with the ASPCA about providing the basics of care when it was decided to bring Shoka back. It's too bad they only remove animals from homes based on physical abuse and not phychological.
Anon on this:
Do you know if Jon has a lawyer for the hearing? Do you know if it's a good lawyer?
I love your posts - so interesting. Can you tell us more?
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The playground needs some swiffering to get us back on track. Thank you to the 90% who make this place great, I need to reel in the other 10%.
Like the Society explains, dogs unlike cats and really most animals WANT humans around all the time, they are pack animals and become part of your pack. It goes against all their instincts to leave them alone outside.
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I never understood why you'd get a dog just to leave it out all the time? Doesn't that kinda defeat the purpose? Why have a pet if you don't want it in the house to snuggle with, bond with, etc?
She's extremely vindictive and who knows what lengths she'd go to in order to cause major problems for TLC if she got really angry at them and flew into a rage for canceling her shows.
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Yep, I agree. TLC now has a "two-edged sword" on their hands. She was great while she was bringing in the ratings, but now...as they well know, who can predict what unstable Katie will do? She may have some knowledge or 'dirt' on TLC that she could get them on, if given the boot. TLC may well be in a precarious position now.
What did Collin say about stepping on Shoka's tail? I don't think that the trick or treating scenes were for real. I think it was staged and maybe filmed at Carla's?? How in the world does she justify to herself the statement that she made to the kids that she always keeps the promises she makes to them? Really? How about at the fake re-wedding saying about 4 times that she & Jon would be together forever yet less than 2 months later she told him that it was over. She still considers herself as her "highness" and her behavior shows her to be her"lowness" - lowest of the low. Oh - arranging visits for Shoka with Nala - that would just confuse the dogs to then be separated again. TLC needs better script writers. All of the kids have "ants in their pants" and it is not cute or pleasant to watch. Their over dramatic couch scenes are painful and make it abundantly clear how staged this entire phony show is.
JudyK said...
Oh, and a P.S. to my above comment. This episode was on last night, especially in regard to the dog coming home, to influence the Tuesday hearing and if a Judge can't see through that, he/she shouldn't be on the Bench.
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The tape of the show is going to be shown at the hearing? Can they do that?
dee3 said... I kinda wonder if the reason TLC is still filming the show and trying to improve the ratings, etc. is because they have a contract with Kate that has not run out yet and having seen how nasty and volatile she can be, don't want to have to deal with her wrath, her possible public accusations, and the possible legal maneuvering she might try.....and the repercussions for TLC were she to do this.
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As I understand it, the contract runs through February 2012. Yes - February 2012. So, I think you are right that they may be stringing her along. TLC has to know that this woman is insane and just plain evil. She may well have some good dirt on them that she will have no problem using to her own personal advantage. She is quite capable of extortion. The dirt might be very embarrassing for TLC. While they are horrible, shameless people, TLC still has to keep up appearances. Also, Oprah is now half owner of the Discovery Channel, the parent company of TLC. And I bet old Oprah would not want any crap splashing on her and her Oprah Winfrey Network when it hits the fan.
I kinda wonder if the reason TLC is still filming the show and trying to improve the ratings, etc. is because they have a contract with Kate that has not run out yet and having seen how nasty and volatile she can be, don't want to have to deal with her wrath, her possible public accusations, and the possible legal maneuvering she might try.....and the repercussions for TLC were she to do this.
It seems suspicious that these mystery "sources" are revealing that Twist of Kate is dead in the water and that K+8 is soon to be canceled....with TLC denying these claims, technically, probably to avoid dealing with the wrath of an extremely angry Kate. But where there's smoke, there's fire, IMO....and I suspect these leaks by these sources are based on truth...that is being denied just for the time being to keep Kate placated. But in reality, they want to dump the show at some point.
Jon is passive-aggressive so they knew they could intimidate him, etc....but Kate? Whole other story. And I think they know it....and are just trying to placate her until the contract runs out and they are no longer legally obligated to do what she wants in ANY way, shape or form. I mean hell, I'd be scared of her and would not want to cross her....that's for sure. She's extremely vindictive and who knows what lengths she'd go to in order to cause major problems for TLC if she got really angry at them and flew into a rage for canceling her shows.
Oh...and great info., 'anon on this'....and it all sounds 100% believable to me. I have thought for quite some time that Steve's job has been to control Kate's bad behavior and try to rein it in, keep her calm, soothe her ego and prevent her behavior from becoming a serious concern, especially in public.
Kate's still in Reading because she has to be in Court tomorrow, right?
Moose Mania said... Steve is Kate's personal attendant. There is nothing in his job about guarding or protecting the kids. The things he does with and for the kids is supposedly to keep Kate calm so that she can continue to film.
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Wouldn't a good bottle of wine or two do the same job, and be much cheaper?
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THAT, my dears, is part of the PROBLEM.
anon on this said...
TLC is aware of all the criticism of the phony trips and the kids being taken out of school to film trips. They intend to try more home-based and daily routines filming of the kids to try to get the ratings back up.
Kate is very unhappy about this but has been given no choice. In exchange for this, she has been given Steve back.
Steve is Kate's personal attendant. There is nothing in his job about guarding or protecting the kids. The things he does with and for the kids is supposedly to keep Kate calm so that she can continue to film.
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Perhaps you can find out for us why TLC goes to so much trouble to keep Kate happy?? Why don't they cut her loose?
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