Friday, September 10, 2010

Parental alienation/alienation of affection explained

A hot buzzword floating all around Family Law courts these days is "parental alienation." Whenever there is any indication one parent may be talking negatively about the other parent or trying to manipulate the children against the other parent, lawyers cry parental alienation. If it becomes bad enough, minors attorneys are appointed, psychologists are assigned to the case, and even expert witnesses may be brought in.

However true parental alienation is not just a few bad words a parent lets slip out about that mean awful Daddy or Mommy. Although various experts define it differently, Dr. Douglas Darnall, Ph.D., a psychologist with 30 years of experience, including working as a psychologist assigned to an Ohio courthouse and author of numerous books on divorce, explains what he calls the "Obsessed Alienator." Which sounds awfully familiar. Dr. Darnall has dedicated his practice to dissecting and defining parental alienation in the hopes of helping families overcome it.


  • The obsessed alienator thinks, "I love my children. If the court can't protect them from their abusive father, I will. Even though he's never abused the children, I know it's a matter of time. The children are frightened of their father. If they don't want to see him, I'm not going to force them. They are old enough to make up their own minds."

  • The obsessed alienator is a parent with a cause: to align the children to her side and together, with the children, campaign to destroy their relationship with the targeted parent. For the campaign to work, the obsessed alienator enmeshes the children's personalities and beliefs into their own. This is a process that takes time but one that the children, especially the young, are completely helpless to see and combat. It usually begins well before the divorce is final. The obsessed parent is angry, bitter or feels betrayed by the other parent. The initial reasons for the bitterness may actually be justified. They could have been verbally and physical abused, raped, betrayed by an affair, or financially cheated. The problem occurs when the feelings won't heal but instead become more intense because of being forced to continue the relationship with a person they despise because of their common parenthood. Just having to see or talk to the other parent is a reminder of the past and triggers the hate. They are trapped with nowhere to go and heal.

  • They are obsessed with destroying the children's relationship with the targeted parent.

  • The children will parrot the obsessed alienator rather than express their own feelings from personal experience with the other parent.

  • The targeted parent and often the children cannot tell you the reasons for their feelings.

  • Their beliefs sometimes becoming delusional and irrational. No one, especially the court, can convince obsessed alienators that they are wrong. Anyone who tries is the enemy.

  • They will often seek support from family members, quasi-political groups or friends (Admin: Or TV talk shows?) that will share in their beliefs that they are victimized by the other parent and the system. The battle becomes "us against them."

  • They have an unquenchable anger because they believe that the targeted parent has victimized them and whatever they do to protect the children is justified.

  • They have a desire for the court to punish the other parent with court orders that would interfere or block the targeted parent from seeing the children. (Admin: Gate pickups/dropoffs?) This confirms in the obsessed alienator's mind that he or she was right all the time.

  • The court's authority does not intimidate them.

  • The obsessed alienator believes in a higher cause, protecting the children at all cost.

Unfortunately, says this psychologist, there are no effective treatment protocols that have been validated for the obsessed alienator. The courts and mental health professionals are sincere in wanting to help these families but their efforts frequently fail. The best hope for children affected by an obsessed alienator is early identification of the symptoms and prevention. After the alienation is entrenched and the children become "true believers" in the parent's cause, the children may be lost to the other parent for years to come. There can still be hope in that spontaneous reunification can occur, usually in response to a crisis that causes the alienated child to reach out to the rejected parent.

http://www.parentalalienation.org/articles/types-alienators.html

168 sediments (sic) from readers:

Troy Chula Vista said...

Here's how I say Kate hung herself today (as far as Hollywood goes). What she said offends at the core level of every person who deals with children and their well being. Every actor, agent or other in Hollywood who has children will be unhappy with her comments and actions and I doubt they will be foaming at the mouth to "get her", unless we just never rise above that level of "REALITY". No matter what side of the fence you're on about Jon, he didn't deserve what she did today. IMHO

charleyg122 said...

Bullet point number five ("The targeted parent and often the CHILDREN cannot tell you the reason for their feelings") was confirmed to be true by Kate herself. When she was talking about the shared custody "law" and Jon's visits with the kids, she said that the tups will often say to her "Mommy, it's hard to explain", in a pitiful little voice. Obviously the children are very confused and torn, possibly even afraid express love or affection for their father in front of Kate.
A good friend of mine went through a divorce a few years back, and as I was reading your post, I realized that she was an obsessed alienator as well. We would have long telephone conversations, and I knew she would be saying awful things in front of her children. I'd tell her to remember that she was talking about their father, to be careful, but her answer would be "I have no secrets from the kids and they know that what I'm saying is the truth". Today the kids are teenagers, and want nothing to do with their Dad, quite a sad state of affairs.

cathy518 said...

I am glad to see you post this Admin. I think that like many here, my first reaction to hearing what Kate said on R&K was "family court!" I believe this was world class stupid of her, no family court judge could dismiss those statements as anything but proof of parental alienation. I can't believe that she made these statements on national TV, wow. If Jon stays quiet, I think this will just work in his favor. He will have proof for in family court that Kate is undermining his relationship with the kids and proof in the court of public opinion of just how rotten a women Kate is.
I do have a simple solution to offer Kate though. If the kids miss their home and toys, etc, when visiting Jon, go back to the arrangement where they stay home and the parents rotate in and out. Wasn't that the original set up? Seems like it would be a good idea now, then the kids wouldn't have to be picked up at the end of the driveway like they were the garbage set out for removal.

SAHM said...

Admin... I am so glad that you posted this article. For a long time now I have felt that Kate is alienating the children from Jon. Seeing what this woman will say on camera to the children or the public about their father, I can only imagine what she is saying to them behind closed doors. But parental alienation goes beyond "put-downs" of the other parent. TLC and Kate have kept the kids constantly busy during the summer and used up any time that Jon could have had w/ his children. Constantly taking trips to avoid any visitation w/ the non-custodial parent is Parental Alienation. I recall a comment (don't remember exactly where it came from), but Kate put one of the twins in a situation where she asked if they wanted to spend time w/ Jon or spend time w/ their friends. THAT too is Parental Alienation. Its only going to come and bite her in the ass. It may be years from now when the children are old enough to understand but eventually it will come back - 10 fold.

Betsy said...

All I know is that she had no valid reason to go on that talk show other than talk trash about their father. She was not promoting anything but her hate for that man. No one cares about her stupid show and her many vacations.

Anonymous said...

ADMIN I NEED YOUR HELP!!!I think this site is terrific... admin. I feel pretty silly but I do not know which profile to choose when I make a comment.Where can I just put my email address?? Keep exposing that poor excuse of a mother. Can you just imagine what she says to those children behind closed doors about their father???

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Thank you administrator, for explaining what Parental Alienation/Alienation of Affection is.

I don't know what is going on in Kate's head, but she is doing a grave disservice to her children.

Jaye said...

Really, do we expect anything less from Kate? I mean, here is a woman who will banish you from her life and the children's lives in a nanosecond if you dare cross her. She is a woman who has banished her own parents, brother, sisters and her former BFF Beth Carson from seeing the children.

Why would Jon be any different? I'm sure Kate is chomping at the bit to banish him from their lives, and it's killing her that legally she can't.

She is very disturbed....disturbed to her rotten core. I think we all knew that one day she'd be the ex wife from hell, and boy did we have her pegged. Could you just IMAGINE having her as a mother in law? OMG!!!!!!!!

Bodyguard my a$$ said...

Well Steve, are you proud of your girlfriend? That's quite a woman you've got there. What do you think of that evil Satan-spawn now?

Judy said...

I just keep wondering what it will take for Jon to start acting a like the father we know he can be.
If I were in his shoes,I wouldn't sleep or eat, for fear of my children being hurt, or crying out for my help when they need me.
I have oftened wondered what their bedtimes are like.
Does anyone help with their homework, listen to their excitement of learning something new or meeting a new BFF.
Making sure they wash their hair,brush their teeth,listen to their fears or laughter?
I guess Nanny Judy does all that....Such a sad life those little ones have to endure.
All for the selfish parents that they didn't deserve or ask for !

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Kate's unclever "woe is me" song and dance is super back-firing on her.

Message to Kate/her P.R. people & TLC:
there is NOTHING that you can say & do that will fix Kate. Kate + 8 is done- accept it and move on. If you are not convinced, let the free-falling ratings remind you each week.

More and more people/articles/blogs are finally realising what a sick, sick woman she is:

http://www.goodenoughmother.com/2010/09/the-kate-hate-continues/

Michelle said...

Rene Syler's blog is one of my new favorites. Here's her take on Kate's latest: http://www.goodenoughmother.com/2010/09/the-kate-hate-continues/

I must say, other than stopping by Babymama's site to see if they actually approved of Kate's latest stunt (they not only approve, they're very proud of her), I haven't seen one article praising Kate for this latest stunt and the comments reflect the same. Oh how I hope this takes the ratings below a million on Monday.

mommyinca said...

Kate will stop at nothing , imo, to keep those kids away from Jon. (Jon is the last person in those kids lives on a regular basis who will speak up for them). Kate has been working for a long time on a campaign to remove Jon. She is playing mind games with the kids and manipulating them. She is setting the public up to gain sympathy once she goes to court and tries to limit their visits with Jon. Just wait. She will plant ideas into the kids heads, turn them against Jon, then bait them with questions that can be interpreted as "abuse" so she can run to the judge and claim she just wants to protect her children. She will have her evidence in the form of 8 confused children who are victims of her narcissism.

I would hope that justice will prevail through my prediction but I fear between Kate's illness and money, she would have a good chance of pulling it off. :(

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

I read on another blog that in the next episode, the trained monkeys- I MEAN the children go deep sea fishing, and 4 of the children are filmed sea sick, throwing up into a bucket. Way to go KATE & TLC! All that pain & embarrassment for the kids, and your stinkin' ratings are still going DOWN! I hope you are proud of yourselves.

Screw you.

To the rest of the viewers that insist on watching this so-called show- when are you going to wake up?! It's not entertaining anymore, it's ABUSIVE!

Administrator said...

I just had a thought. Kate has estranged so many people in the children's lives the second they refuse to ride the narcissist's train anymore.

She is doing the SAME THING to Jon. Except this time he actually has a RIGHT to see his kids as their father. This drives her crazy because everyone else she has been able to get rid of. Everyone else she has control over. This is the one person she cannot control to her liking and it is making her absolutely barking mad.

She really, really needs help. And I think Jon should be able to say she needs help all day long without being accused of doing the same thing she does. It is NOT the same.

PatE said...

Admin, please be aware of people rushing here to badmouth Ellen and Jon....pretending to care about the children. It's the only defense they have left.

This is about Kate, and the control she has with TLC standing behind her.

browneyedgirl said...

Imagine the talk at the kids' school after this appearance. The teachers and parents aren't missing a bit of this, and while I doubt anyone would speak in front of the kids, you can bet it's forming an indeliable impression of Kate, Jon and the entire family.
Good luck, kids, you're going to need it with these parents ruining your real chances at a normal, happy life with healthy relationships.

Pate said...

Admin you are completely right. It's always been about control for Kate.

It was easy for her to love them as "babies" because she had full control over them. But, now that they can talk back, at least the girls do, all she can think about is spas, traveling and one room apartments.

And Jon is the one adult she no longer has power over. Bet she plots day and night how to remove him from the kid's lives. Still can't understand how she got total control over the house...

oh, and great post!

Bodyguard my a$$ said...

Speaking of alienation of affection, Jon should have sued Stevie-boy long ago for his sick antics with Kate.

If I were Jon, on my next visitation day, I would throw a huge party in a fun restaurant and invite the whole Gosselin/Kreider clan. Kate would froth at the mouth, but she could do absolutely NOTHING to stop it. Then I would spend the rest of the evening with the kids at Kevin and Jodi's house. Kate would absolutely lose it! But she could not point to any of it to bash Jon with.

She'd be on the outside looking in, with no power to stop it. I can't think of any kind of revenge that would taste as sweet :) The kids would see how nice their dad is, and that everyone gets along with him, and they'd see that Kate is the hater. I bet they'd be wondering just what is so bad about Uncle Kevin and sweet Aunt Jodi that compels their mother to keep them away from them.

To all you people who claim you watch the show to protect the kids, come on, what can you really do? Can't you wait a week and watch it online? These episodes were filmed a couple of months ago. Can't you please wait and let her ratings sink to below a million? Please? For the kids.

Daisy Girl said...

JON....Thank you for not responding to Kate!!!!

What she wants is to be on every talk show because interest in her in waning. At this point she has nothing to offer to them do to her show tanking, Twist of Kate is dead in the water and she lost ET. A lot of publications who were highly supportive of her position are now seeing her for whom and what she is.

http://www.goodenoughmother.com/2010/09/the-kate-hate-continues/

She wants is to pick a fight with you so you would respond with anger and look like a “mad man”. That would give her the in to every talk show out there so Hollywood will call.

Interesting but TLC muzzled you and now it is biting TLC and Kate. She looks totally out of control since you are quiet. AC yesterday saw right through her. I am sure all interviews are set up for her so the host can only ask certain questions and cannot talk about others. Noticed that less than a minute into her interview they took a break to commercial. Kelly had a very surprised or confused look on her face… like are we really go to break now? I think AC was entering tough questioning and put a stop to him but boy he sure squirmed in his chair. His disdain for her was obvious.

So hang in there Jon. You are not alone.

wayward said...

"Administrator said... I just had a thought. Kate has estranged so many people in the children's lives the second they refuse to ride the narcissist's train anymore.

She is doing the SAME THING to Jon. Except this time he actually has a RIGHT to see his kids as their father. This drives her crazy because everyone else she has been able to get rid of. Everyone else she has control over. This is the one person she cannot control to her liking and it is making her absolutely barking mad."
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Admin, you beat me to it. I was thinking the same thing about how the initial lack of money forced Kate to tolerate family and friends because she had no choice and needed their help. As soon as the money began rolling in, family and friends were cast out one by one and replaced by employees/strangers who had to follow Kate's "my way or the highway" mantra. Cumulating in Kate's giving Jon the axe. Always a method to Kate's madness, it appears that she waited to tell Jon their marriage was over until AFTER the deal for the Konpound was finalized. She's crazy, but she is not stupid.



Which leads me to my next point. I posted yesterday that Jon should not remain silent on this. Another poster politely pointed out (thank you Admin for encouraging us to be courteous to each other- you rock!) that Jon would look worse engaging in Kate's pubic trashing. I totally agree, I should have been more specific. What I meant was that I hope privately and *behind the scenes* Jon has obtained some competent legal help in dealing with Kate. The fact that she felt free to go on national TV for no other reason than to trash the father of her children, tells me there is no type of order in place preventing her from doing so. Like Jon wrote in that note Hailey leaked (assuming he did write it) "why does she make the rules?" That was the same point I was trying to make in my previous post- why does Kate and TLC have all the power? We don't need to know what he doing to fight back, and no, we certainly don't want him to stoop to her level. I just hope he IS doing something to protect the rights of his kids and himself. And that he is getting help from people who's only motives are to help he and the children, not advancing their own interests.

Must Love Dogs said...

How did she sneak by Chris and make it to NY to get her hair done? Guess she decided not to call him that day. =) I really thought hat it was a repeat...guess she fooled me

dee3 said...

Whew....an obsessed alienator who is also a malignant narcissist. What worse combination could there possibly be?

Right out of the gate, she leaps into negative territory....because to Kate, this is all about HER. EVERYTHING is always all about HER.
Her mind cannot comprehend that family court situations are always about what's in the best interest of the children. That does not compute to a person like Kate......in her world where everyone else is inconsequential and just there for her convenience/usage. She is psychologically unable to even comprehend what the judge looks at in these cases (custody/visitation)...because if it's not ALL about her...she just doesn't get it.

And then you take an extremely narcissistic obsessive alienator.....and have it be the "world according to HER" for years...thanks to TLC. I agree with the administrator.....she is not accustomed to not getting her way and not getting what she wants...or having "NO" said to her. I'm sure this situation with Jon has her in a rage. And people who are in a rage rarely, if ever, make good decisions.

Also....I do NOT believe this is all fake and set up by TLC. It's just gone way too far, IMO.
Not saying I'm 100% right...but that's my opinion.

Warmth Of The Sun said...

"Well Steve, are you proud of your girlfriend?"

+++++++++

Are you kidding? He was probably the one in her earpiece, egging her on! "Oppsolutely fontostik, Kite" (in his NZ accent!)...

Sadie said...

Her PR Team must have been sleeping when they allowed her to go on without an ear piece, now they have to work over time to clean up what she did. Jon, please be quiet and remain the silent one, take care of your kids, go to their school plays and play with them. Someone is throwing this twit enough rope to hang herself

Moose Mania said...

Do you think that, after reading all of the comments/internet articles that she realizes that she should have kept her mouth shut and that she really over-stepped the lines this time? Or...does she have people in her camp congratulating her on throwing her dreadful ex to the wolves, encouraging her to just keep it going?

I'm just wondering how she's justifying this...is she really too stupid to see what she's doing, and isn't there anyone at all advising her to back off?

Marie said...

I just appauled by how long and how deep this circus of a family from Kate's influences has become.

I don't care if Jon, the Kreider's, former employers are afraid of being ridiculed, bullied or taken to court. SOMEBODY has to be willing to stick their necks way the heck out there if they want to get anything done. Somebody close enough to this situation, whether one is under contract or not has to have the deceny to stop this...frankly...I'm not even sure what you call "this" anymore, just to stop the madness all together.

What I'm so sick of hearing is:

"The kids voted unaminously to have the 'family' job.

"The kids "play" while I "work."

"The kids "missed," the camera crew."

JudyK said...

From MSNBC Site--best post I've ever read--PART I:
"MaggieL-2345228
Lies, lies, lies! She's a grifter and the poorest excuse for a mother I can think of; however, SHE doesn't surprise me anymore. Anderson Cooper, the award-winning journalist, obviously did no research at all, and that surprised me. And Kelly, the great mother that she is, just bought into this line of hogwash, and that surprised me! To allow this woman to spout her venom against the father of those children on national TV and spew her lies about her working and her children playing, well it is tantamount to contributing to child abuse. The kids don't want to be with Kate - and there is a video that can be found all over the internet that shows them screaming in fear at the thought of leaving their father to go back to their mother.

Obviously Live with Regis and Kelly has no integrity anymore. Instead of asking the hard questions and attempting to get some truth out of this inveterate liar, they took the easy way out and let her spin her web to her heart's content. Won't be watching that show again, to be sure.

Now, if Anderson Cooper wants to prove that he still is the legitimate jounalist he purports to be, maybe he should do some research, get her on his show and get to the truth - and then maybe, just maybe, those children might have a shot at a normal life! She's such a nothing...it just amazes me that someone like Anderson Cooper got totally played. Guess that's what happens if you don't do your research!

Some questions I wish someone with integrity would ask Kate...

1. Why do you need so many nannies and a live-in friend and crew and bodyguards when you "claim" you do it all by yourself?

2. Why do you need a body guard at all - and why does he live in your house when he is a married man?

3. Why when one of the kids gets hurt or sick do you leave it to your "helpers" to deal with it. For example, on your recent show when you were supposedly flying kites, Cara cut her finger and went to you for comfort . Instead of being a mother, you called for a "helper" and said "deal with this child!" Seems like your camera face time is more important than your hurting child.

4. If you want to be with your children so much, why do you say things like "I need to get out of here" - in front of your children. Again, on video from one of your shows for all to see. And why when you are home are you running around town doing anything OTHER than being with you children?

5. Why do we NEVER see you hugging your children? And why do you always put down the boys?

6. Why in EVERY picture out there, except the ones staged by TLC or still photogs, do the children NEVER smile when they are with you?

CONTINUED ON PART II

JudyK said...

PART II (Continued)

"7. Why do you need so many manicures and pedicures and 7 grand hair extensions, etc.? Don't your kids need college educations?

8. Why do you take the kids' used clothing, that you receive 100% FREE OF CHARGE, to a consigment shop? Don't you believe in giving back?

9. How can you say that Jon never did, never does and never will do anything for your kids when there is video PROOF that from the moment they were born, he was not only working for a living, BUT being the primary caretaker. It was you that said clearly on video "I never do baths, that's Jon's job" - correct?

10. Why do the children need to be filmed while you "work?"

11. Why do you have no contact at all with your own family, Kevin and Jodi, Beth Carson (who wrote your only REAL book)? Why do you seemingly have no friends, save for this Jamie person whom you "claim" has been your BFF for 9 years.

12. Where do you get off believing that you belong in show business when you have not ONE marketable skill in the entertainment field and not one marketable talent?

13. How about an acconting of where all the money has gone that these children have made for you? You cry poor so often, it makes everyone wonder. Are you THAT bad with money - or are you that intent on living a lifestyle which you have neither earned nor deserve.

There are sooo many more questions. Would love to hear from others.

But, back to the original topic, the entire LWR&K appearance was nothing more than that - an "appearance" - and not one bit of it was true!"

8!#1 - Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:31 PM EDT

Barbara said...

Admin, I so totally agree with you. Kate is furious beyond words that she can't control Jon any longer. She will do anything she has to do to destroy him -- even if she destroys her children and the show, her means of support -- in the process. She doesn't care, she just has to have control.

This is where I disagree with some of you. I think Jon needs to get to family court, some court somewhere with the video of him dropping the kids off screaming for him not to go, showing some evidence that only he has of how she is alienating his children from him and get out from under TLC -- whatever it takes and protect his children. She is systematically and slowly destroying all of them. Silence is not helping Jon Gosselin.

Anonymous said...

From what I have read of her background she herself is alienated from her family and the children no longer see their grandparents on either side. It appears she is now delibrately alienating the children from their father who, from what I understand, was their chief care giver in their early years. I only saw the video clip which was posted on ROL, so I can't comment on the whole interview; but Anderson Cooper wasn't buying her sad tale. Why can't Jon have his visitations with the children at the "kids' house"? Were his visits there banned by the court or just Kate?

BeDoneNow said...

It is early Saturday afternoon and Katie I. Gosselin is thinking exactly 4 things, and 4 things only.
1 - they dont like what I said? I can say whatever I want; I am a star in my own right.
2 - I am hungover, again, and no one is fetching me coffee fast enough.
3 - This will blow over like everything else does, because they all love my kid$ and will put up with anything to be able to look at my kid$.
4 - Did I smudge my toenail polish again?

She doesnt get it, you guys. She really doesnt. Something is missing in her. And she doesnt care because the above 4 items have proven in her mind to be true time and again.

BeDoneNow said...

Administrator said... I just had a thought. Kate has estranged so many people in the children's lives the second they refuse to ride the narcissist's train anymore.
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Yes Admin, and her male children are dangerously close to being next. She needs someone to blame for her internal misery and we have already seen how she slams her children to their faces for it. The tragedy is not 'sometime in the future', it is happening right now.

Administrator said...

Moose Mania said... Do you think that, after reading all of the comments/internet articles that she realizes that she should have kept her mouth shut and that she really over-stepped the lines this time?
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Sadly, no. Because she is both a narcissist and an obsessed alienator. Like the bullet point says: "No one, especially the court, can convince obsessed alienators that they are wrong. Anyone who tries is the enemy."

Everyone who said what Kate did was wrong is the enemy. Even experts.

Moose Mania said...

@Admin..."Everyone who said what Kate did was wrong is the enemy. Even experts."

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What about Steve? What about Jamie? If they told her that what she has done is wrong on so many levels, would she take it to heart, or would they become the enemy, too? Or are both of them the enablers, telling her exactly what she wants to hear, knowing that if they disagree with her, they'll be thrown to the curb? Is there nobody who could get through to her?

I was thinking that if any normal person would be made aware of all of the negative comments after her Jon-bashing performance, that they'd step back and say...yeah, I guess I should just knock this off. But then I remembered that she's anything but normal.

So...even if the experts would become the enemy, what would it take for her to seek psychiatric help? Would it have to be court-ordered, and what would be involved in forcing a mandatory psychological evaluation? Who would be the person to do this? Obviously, something has to be done for the sake of the children.

Anonymous said...

What was the purpose of her being on the show? She wasn't flogging her book, her "new" show appears to have been cancelled. Her show with the "8" is doing so badly TLC must be very concerned. Her appearance of late has become trashy beyond belief. She didn't get the DWTS gig. Was her sole purpose to bash Jon? Someone, either Kate or TLC is going to have to major damage control. Of course the REAL damage is to the children themselves. Little do they know what awaits them when they return to school on Monday - kids can be brutal.

PatK said...

I think it's been obvious for quite a while now that Kate's brain doesn't fire on all cylinders. Who knows just how badly she trash talks Jon (and his girlfriend) to these kids.

Has she actually done it so much that these kids don't want to spend all their allotted time with Jon? Have one or more of the kids really called her from Jon's saying they want to come home? And if so,I would like to know why they would do that.

Is it because some of the kids have become so full of themselves with a sense of entitlement that they're no longer happy just to be with Dad for a short time because they are temporarily in cramped quarters or miss all their freebie toys?

If that's the case, then these kids are really in for a rude awakening when the tide turns, Kate has to downsize and the freebies are no longer rolling in.

Hippie Chick said...

Someone on another thread said that maybe TLC orchestrated this little stunt to get rid of Kate. Basically, throw Kate out there, let her say these thing, let her make a damn fool out herself, and hang herself. I was thinking about that & it seems right. Her ratings are WAY down. Maybe this is TLC's way of saying BYE BYE to Kate. After this stunt, no one in their right mind will want anything to do with her now. She has made a complete and utter ass out of herself. What guy would want her now?? After her comments about Jon's, ya know, 'thing', and her slamming him every chance she gets on national TV for one straight year, not to mention, degrading him season after season, no man will want to touch her with a 100 foot pole. That includes romantically & professionally. She is done. Stick a fork in her. She can't keep her mouth shut. And another thing, her 'woe is me pity party' is old. We're over it, and we're onto her. And apparently, so is the media. The tides are turning fast. I think the R&K appearance was a big, fat spike in her coffin.

emschick1128 said...

I think she really did herself in this time by crossing that line. Even Bonnie Fuller who has always supported her slammed her for what she said on Regis and Kelly. I just amazes me that in 2010 someone can publicly abuse their kids they way she does on national TV and very rarely is she called out on it. There were plenty of times yesterday when she could have called on her lies put instead she was allowed to spew away about Jon and not be challenged. And what's this about the kids actually on film throwing up on a boat ride and still being filmed and she doesn't even try to help them or god forbid stop filming?? She has no lines that she won't cross and TLC goes right along with it. Is this supposed to be entertainment, seeing poor children sea sick??? I'm sure Kate does nothing but complain about it also. I just find this all so unbelievable that she is allowed to do this.

Dani said...

Kate was doing this while they were still married.
"Don't listen to daddy, he's mean."

Daisy Girl said...

Moose Mania--She can't stop because Hollywood has not called begging for her to be in a TV or movie and it has been weeks since the Emmeys. She knows out of sight out of mind so when back yesterday to the tried and true, bash Jon to stay in the headlines. If she can't segway into a big project before Kate + 8 tanks she is done. I think she would want to leave her show on her terms saying she can't film Kate + 8 anymore because Hollywood is calling.

Xanadu said...

"If that's the case, then these kids are really in for a rude awakening when the tide turns, Kate has to downsize and the freebies are no longer rolling in."

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But in her mind, that's never going to happen. There will always be some scheme, some money-making plan that will keep her living the lifestyle of the rich and famous. Will it be an acting job? Will she get the twins in a Disney movie, ferreting them out in Hollywood, the next Mary-Kate and Ashley? I would imagine the wheels are always turning and in her mind, she'd not going down. Fantasy and reality, for her, have become one and the same.

I'm wondering just how much she has done to poison the kids minds' against Jon...so much that we don't know. To what extent has the damage been done already? Has she succeeded to the point that what has been done cannot be undone?

Moose Mania said...

"Hippie Chick said...

Someone on another thread said that maybe TLC orchestrated this little stunt to get rid of Kate."

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Assumptions and speculations may be made, but unless one has actually read the TLC contract, nobody really knows. If the only way TLC can get rid of her is if the ratings fall below a certain level, this explanation is possible. But if her contract states that TLC can, for ANY reason, void the contract AT ANY TIME, you can bet that they will do so without playing these immature games.

Julianna said...

"Kate was doing this while they were still married.
"Don't listen to daddy, he's mean."

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"he's mean AND DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOUR SAFETY."

Administrator said...

I think TLC is giving themselves an "out", a backdoor, an exit strategy.

I think they know there are a lot of problems with this show continuing and that they may need to drop it suddenly. Some of those include Jon again saying he doesn't want the kids to be filmed anymore, new labor laws, contract ending, bad ratings.

They know how invested Kate is in them and so they want a way to blame it all on her when the drop her. Now they can say she sabatoged herself with stunts like this, and none of the blame will be on TLC.

From a business standpoint it's quite smart.

Anonymous said...

She definitely needs help - big time. She said that she is the sole support of the children. She doesn't realize what we all know - the children are supporting her.

LisaNH said...

My take on this whole situation is either TLC is tearing their hair out at the moment because of Kate's comments on R&K or they set the whole thing up to garner ratings for K+8.

Lauren said...

Administrator said...
I think TLC is giving themselves an "out", a backdoor, an exit strategy.

I think they know there are a lot of problems with this show continuing and that they may need to drop it suddenly. Some of those include Jon again saying he doesn't want the kids to be filmed anymore, new labor laws, contract ending, bad ratings.

They know how invested Kate is in them and so they want a way to blame it all on her when the drop her. Now they can say she sabatoged herself with stunts like this, and none of the blame will be on TLC.

From a business standpoint it's quite smart.

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Admin do you think TLC asked Kate to trash Jon on R&K?

I thought it was a ploy to generate sympathy but it has backfired on her.

Thx.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

LisaNH, if anything, I think Kate has succeeded in repelling more viewers.

As for TLC, all they are interested in is $$$$.

As soon as the next freak show rolls by, they will drop Katie like a hot potato. And if she dares to threaten them, all they have to do is counter-threaten her with all those "unuseable hours" of Kate being a monster.

Dani said...

Hey Julianna, the saddest part is that's only the stuff we've heard. I can't IMAGINE what TLC has in their vaults and what Kate says when NO cameras are around. Those poor little rich kids.

Troy Chula Vista said...

I was doing some searching for how the media was treating this "interview" and I found this youtube. All I can say is this a great example of slick editing. Bonnies article is getting a LOT of use.

(have bucket near you in case of motion sickness)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pPnDqZ3WGI&feature=youtube_gdata

AuntieAnn said...

Kate offended a lot of people yesterday with those remarks. We can almost be guaranteed that the next opportunity she has she will rephrase, but not retract, what she said in such a way as to try to redeem herself. It won't be sincere or genuine but she's going to do it. She'll do anything to keep that laughable 'career' of hers alive.

NancyB said...

TLC has a history 9f promoting Kate's trashing of Jon on national TV. I think they were the brains???? behind this, and Kate just does whatever they say.

http://www.realitytvkids.com/2009/11/tlc-stoops-to-new-low-and-allows-kate.html

Lolly said...

Personally, I think TLC has been involved in this divorce and very instrumental in helping create the chaos in this mess. Ratings. Money. That is what is important to them. And someone high up, (O'Niell) has this obsession (it seems to me) that Kate become a "star", even though, they KNOW she has no marketable skills. Not sure what the driving force behind all this pushing her onto the public. It is just way beyond the standard relationship that most people have with thier production/film crews. It is the strangest thing I have ever witnessed. One thing I think, TLC knows they took advantage of an inexperienced couple, they signed them for a pittance, compared to what they actually made on them. I mean who signs a contract with NO attorney? If TLC really gave a crap for them, they should have advised them to get representation. IMO. Could be the reason why the huge pay raise for her. Even Jon last year said he wished Kate would wise up about TLC. TLC might be trying to stave off future litigation from Kate and the kids. "See we paid you big time, gave you all these freebies" Kate, thinking she is so smart, probably wanted to handle this all herself. Since she is "so perfect". SHe is using them like crazy now, with expensive vacation after vacation. She is no dummy when it comes to freebies. She has had much experience in that. Something is just very strange with the heavyweight backing, all the money they have put out for someone with no talent whatsoever. This is just my opinion of course and speculation. But you have to admit this entire Kate thing is strange.

Administrator said...

NancyB said... TLC has a history 9f promoting Kate's trashing of Jon on national TV. I think they were the brains???? behind this, and Kate just does whatever they say.

http://www.realitytvkids.com/2009/11/tlc-stoops-to-new-low-and-allows-kate.html
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Thanks for reposting that, Nancy. I like what I said back then and I still like it.

Lolly said...

Admin, this is why I like this blog so much. You certianly have great insight into this entire mess. I appreciate your logical reasoning and usually you hit it exactly right.

Incidently, I am trying to find an article I read, panning TLC for all the idiotic shows they have now. I was very surprised the number of people who responded and said they stopped watching TLC long ago. I know with this Gosselin mess, it has certainly turned me off from this channel. The very idea of them getting so involved in the divorce and trashing Jon on tv is so repulsive and just not what you see or hear from a network. As I said, this entire Kate thing with TLC is VERY strange.

Marie said...

I truly do wonder now, when this ends, becaue, lets face it, every show has to end at some point no matter how good ratings, how much people like it, or how much people love to bash about how bad it is.

I wonder what Kate will tell the kids then? That they can no longer go on vacation because it isn't free? That those people they love so much no longer are in there lives because they kids don't draw in the ratings?

Lolly said...

Sorry for posting so much, I am FIRED up about this mess! :) I just wonder if we all could do without a "recap". Wait until the numbers come out THEN discuss it? Take as many viewers away as possible? The end IS near.

I saw this post yesterday, thought it was excellent:

"Don't discuss your ex-husband and father of your children on national television, Kate.

But hey, I understand. Nothing is private or sacred in your world, not even your child's bowel movements."

Everyone have a great day!

NancyB said...

And this post too that says in part:
"Kate says she won't talk badly about Jon (even though she's been caught on camera doing so time and time again in front of the children), because the children love their father. Well, that's only part of it, Kate. Another big reason it is so damaging to disparage the children's father in front of them is because of the psychological effect it has on their little minds. Children their age are old enough to comprehend that half of them came from Mommy, and half from Daddy. Hence, lots of children, when they hear over and over how much Mommy can't stand Daddy and what a screw up he is, tend to internalize it and reflect it back on themselves. "Wait a minute," a child thinks. "If Daddy is so terrible, and I am half of Daddy, half of me must be terrible, too. Maybe Mommy thinks half of me is as big of a screw up as him. Maybe all of me is!" It goes so much more deeper than simply criticizing someone the children love, and we hope Kate will understand this sooner rather than later"

http://www.realitytvkids.com/2009/11/final-episode-of-jon-and-kate-airs-and.html

Kate is a nasty woman said...

"Lolly said... And someone high up, (O'Niell) has this obsession (it seems to me) that Kate become a "star", even though, they KNOW she has no marketable skills. Not sure what the driving force behind all this pushing her onto the public."

I have felt this way for a long time. Something is rotten in the TLC/O'Niell woodpile. TLC's obsession with Kate the talentless, ugly, mean, two bit fame whore is mind boggling.

BeDoneNow said...

LisaNH said... My take on this whole situation is either TLC is tearing their hair out at the moment because of Kate's comments on R&K or they set the whole thing up to garner ratings for K+8.
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Hi Lisa. I think that TLC probably doesnt really care. They are done with her. This was Kate's doing, for freebies, ratings, job offers, sympathy, attention, because she thinks it had worked so well before. The contract will be up soon and they are moving on to cheaper, younger, less-needy projects.

When the show is over, will she tell the children that all these people are gone from their lives because no one is PAYING them any longer to be the family's 'best friends'? Will Kate even understand it herself? Who will she blame? If she cant find a way to blame Jon for the end of the gravy-train, will she blame the children themselves?

you betcha she will.

She will have a full psychotic break without Steve at her fingertips 24/7. Kate, no matter how much think 'he just loooooves' you and yours, he wont hang around unless there is something in it for him - and your winning personality wont be nearly enough.

You have had every opportunity, Kate, that an adult human woman could possibly have. And you have screwed up every single thing in your life except giving birth twice. Every single day, you mess up Kate. You cant even go to the store without making a complete arse of yourself. For God's sake, woman, get some psychiatric help.

Save the kids said...

When she was on DWTS she had said that the kids were watching with a bowl of popcorn, later she said they were in bed. She did the same thing when asked at the Emmys...she lies

FarmingonFarmville said...

Can I post this? This youtube channel is freaking creepy. So many pictures and videos of the Gosselin kids.

What sane mother would want this for her kids?

FarmingonFarmville said...

Ah! I forgot the link! http://www.youtube.com/user/nbr1kategosselinfan

You can erase my 1st post if you want. I'll redo it.

Can I post this? This youtube channel is freaking creepy. So many pictures and videos of the Gosselin kids.

What sane mother would want this for her kids?

Marie said...

What I wonder is this;

After Kate plus 8 ends, with no Twist of Kate going to happen, when the talk-show circuts are no longer interested, when TLC vaccats Kate's home, when Kate's paycheck is no longer guarenteed off filming her kids and "reality" lifestyle--WHAT WILL KATE DO FOR A JOB??!! Just as well WHAT WILL JON DO FOR A JOB??!!

Does anybody still see Kate pimping for an interview once the "glory" days have faded about how she has to ACTUALLY financial struggle to support her kids at a 9-5 job, with NO nannies, NO helpers and No family any time soon for support? After she tries to write another "book" its sell will not go well I predict, and after Jon is out from under contract and he may or may not start to sell his own stories--WHAT THE HECK ARE THESE TWO GOING TO DO WITH THE REST OF THEIR LIVES??!!

I can't help but laugh...

Julianna said...

Can I post this? This youtube channel is freaking creepy. So many pictures and videos of the Gosselin kids."

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Kate can thank her lucky stars that so far some delusional person such as this hasn't come after her family. Wouldn't this alone be enough to pull the plug on all publicity and filming? What in the world is she thinking? Does Kate find it flattering that an obsessive fan pledges his/her love to the Gosselin kids?

"GOSSELIN PLEDGE:
To the Kids of Jon and Kate
I pledge my love that will never stop.
They make me laugh, they make me cry,
they are heroes, and there's a million and one reasons why.I love how cute and loving they are, it's 100% true they are little stars. They make my heart melt when they sing and play. I just want to say Cara,Mady,Alexis,Hannah,Aaden, Collin,Leah,Joel I really love you and hope it shows. So I pledge this to the gosselin kids, I will be a true fan for eternity"

The poor kids... said...

I am more than a little bit disturbed at Kate's affect. She does nor respond in a normal manner.

Anon 1 said...

When a narcissist is in immediate danger of losing whatever it is that has been their obsession, whatever they fear losing the most (for Kate, a lifestyle), they will lose control and start behaving totally irrationally. You think Kate was irrational before, watch as every week the ratings go down and no other offers come in. But, have no fear, give her a little time, she'll bouce back. I sure hope Jon has a backup plan and is ready and willing to take his children on a full time basis. They need to be away from her.

LisaNH said...

BeDoneNow said... LisaNH said... My take on this whole situation is either TLC is tearing their hair out at the moment because of Kate's comments on R&K or they set the whole thing up to garner ratings for K+8.
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Hi Lisa. I think that TLC probably doesnt really care. They are done with her. This was Kate's doing, for freebies, ratings, job offers, sympathy, attention, because she thinks it had worked so well before. The contract will be up soon and they are moving on to cheaper, younger, less-needy projects.

When the show is over, will she tell the children that all these people are gone from their lives because no one is PAYING them any longer to be the family's 'best friends'? Will Kate even understand it herself? Who will she blame? If she cant find a way to blame Jon for the end of the gravy-train, will she blame the children themselves
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Sadly, for the kids, I think you're right. I guess at this point (from what I've read online) Kate is grasping at this point. Any attention she can get is worth it to her, to keep her in the limelight. But I think it has and will back fire on her. Even more sheeple who supported her, in the past, are now abandoning their idol.

Maybe, once and for all, she will finally melt away like the Wicked Witch of the West in the Wizard of Oz (...I'm melting, I'm melting...what a world, what a world).

FarmingonFarmville said...

Julianna: Wow, I didn't even notice that Gosselin pledge. I was too freaked out by the photos. What is wrong with people? Seriously, how is obsessive fan love healthy and normal? THESE are the types of people who stalk celebs. Too bad the G kids aren't the one who Steve/purse boy "protects"

Julianna said...

"Julianna: Wow, I didn't even notice that Gosselin pledge."

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The "pledge" creeped me out as much as the photos and video! If you scroll over some of the other writings there, you'll see that Kate is a rolemodel, hero, angel, insparation (sic), and one that says, "I have OGD~obsessive gosselin disorder."

It just makes you shake your head. I'd love to do a psychological profile of these people, but I think I would be just a bit too reluctant to get close enough to them to do it! ;-)

How can any mother or father not worry about their kids, knowing that these people are lurking somewhere out there? People who pledge their love to these kids "for eternity?"

Anon 1 said...

Just throwing this out there...you reckon TLC told her, after the R&K show was scheduled, that their show was "retiring"? Just wonder if maybe she thought R&K was one of her last shots at pleading??? Or, maybe TLC told her if the ratings go below 1 mil., then they'll cancel the show???? Just a thought.

Administrator said...

Anon 1 said... Just throwing this out there...you reckon TLC told her, after the R&K show was scheduled, that their show was "retiring"?
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There are problems, for certain.

fidosmommy said...

Does anybody remember the Family Creed (or whatever it was called) that Kate basically wrote herself, but pretended that her 3 year olds were helping her write it? It was posted on the fridge or something in their house. Does anybody remember what it said? Something about being kind to each other......

Ellie said...

Maybe Kate was already booked on Regis and Kelly some time ago. Maybe she was to promote her ET correspondant gig before ET wisened up and took it away from her.
You know she'd still run toward to the camera even if she has nothing to say.

Anonymous said...

Admin said,
I think TLC is giving themselves an "out", a backdoor, an exit strategy....They know how invested Kate is in them and so they want a way to blame it all on her when the drop her. Now they can say she sabatoged herself with stunts like this, and none of the blame will be on TLC.

From a business standpoint it's quite smart.
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What about Sarah Palin's series premiere? Do you think TLC might reconsider the footage of Kate Gosselin's visit (shorten it tremendously or cut it out completely) because viewers might tune-out if she makes an appearance?

TLC spent a lot of money on Sarah Palin. I'm sure they don't want another Kate Gosselin disaster in ratings.

WHAT? said...

WHAT? Is that "Gosselin Pledge" a joke, or is it really posted somewhere?

When I read it I got goosebumps. Not the fun kind. I was creeped out beyond words.

Why would ANY parent not just tolerate or allow, but intentionally seek the attention that brings so many strangers into their children's lives?

Kate doesn't need a bodyguard. The children probably do. How does she justify what she's done to her kids?

Heide said...

I think TLC just cares about ratings and are just riding the Gosselin train as long as they can. They probably didn't mind Kate going on Regis & Kelly to defend herself against the drop off video where the kids were crying at being returned to Kate. TLC knew full well that Kate would say something controversial and this would inflame the blogs (as it did) and then hopefully increase ratings Monday night.

I think they will just keep Kate going as long as they are making money off of her. They know controversy about her increases ratings as people watch just to complain about her the next day on the blogs or out of curiosity. Plain and simple it's ratings. People want to watch Kate when she's controversial.

Totallydisgusted said...

The newest deep sea fishing episode with the kids out on the boat with no life jackets should be sent to the proper authorities. Life jackets are required by law!

a portland granny said...

New post tonight on body language of Kate.

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/kate-gosselin’s-disdainful-body-language-and-verbal-digs-towards-jon-are-harmful-to-the-8-kids/

mama mia said...

Steve wants his paycheque to continue so he is telling Kite how fontastik it is that everyone is posting her Regis interview, and they are saying she looks gorgeous in her red frock, and come on now Kite, you have to get up, strap those heels on and let's get you to Target, Chris is waiting. And in the background Alexis is screaming for Kate and Steve will ring for the nanny and ask her to keep the children quiet for the rest of the day as Mummy needs to work to buy them toys and food.

mama mia said...

Check out the Beach Run clip on TLC's website. This might be in efforts to explain the Huff Post writer seeing the kids marched to the beach and back. Kate explains she is just taking them down to say hello as it is too hot for a beach day. She takes off her cover up and attempts a Pam Anderson baywatch style beach run, jogging toward the camera. Lumbering is more like it. It is hilarous and oh so natural, not! On the Deep Sea video Kate says about the captain using radar to find fish "I am the type who only believes it when I see it". Must be hard being a christian with those beliefs, huh Kate?

Anonymous said...

Thank you for highlighting parental alienation in your post.

Parental alienation is a destructive family dynamic affecting countless children, parents, and extended family members every year. Alienation is not a legal issue, but a mental health issue, and both mothers and fathers are both the alienating parent and alienated parent in equal numbers.

For more information and resources about parental alienation you can visit http://www.afamilysheartbreak.com.

Carol said...
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SoCalRosie said...

I so hope that they show Kate having her hissy fit when camping with Sarah Palin. THAT would bring in the rating for that show and actualy show Kates true colors for everyone to see. Plus it would make Sarah look so good, I never heard did the kids stay at the camp site when Kate left? such an ungrateful witch.

French Canadian said...

Body language blog: I knew she would analyse Kate http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/

cathy518 said...

Must Love Dogs said... How did she sneak by Chris and make it to NY to get her hair done? Guess she decided not to call him that day. =) I really thought hat it was a repeat...guess she fooled me

Must Love Dogs (and I have two wonderful rescues!) I had the same thought, how did Kate arrive in NY without Chris getting the usual shots? I think that Kate was just very careful to avoid Chris this time, after the pics of her and Steve appeared in the limo a few weeks back at Dunkin Donuts when goint to NY. Maybe Steve is calling a halt to the public shots of himself and Kate after all the speculation that those two are a couple. She certainly has no shame, but he may still feel he has something to lose.
As far as Kate's disastrous appearance on Regis and Kelly, I think this is further evidence that she is being dropped like a stinking sack of chicken poop by TLC. This appearance was probably set up around Emmy time but by now, no one, even TLC cares anymore. So no earpiece, no prep and Kate was on her own, free to do the interview the way her hateful little heart wanted.
I am afraid that Anderson Cooper lost a fan here. (never thought Kelly had any substance to being with) Even if he was just guesting on this fluff show, he should have confronted Kate's statements. What divorced parent, even if speaking the truth, should say such awful things about their children's other parent on National TV. Of course, we all know that the situation is reversed, the children have one nurturing parent that they are happy to be with!

No Shame in her Game said...

TLC doesn't have time to be bothered with Kate. They are too busy prepping their new family with the Mexican tups amd their new breakout star, Kat Von D. They have linked her with Jessie James and she is everywhere these days. The new family may just make it, they will be different like Jon and Kate and the kids are toddlers the kids' age when they first started. I won't watch the kids get endangered and abused on Monday, but plan to watch the new tups when they come on and not a moment before.

Khate and TLC just don't get the fact that the show was about a family raising multiples and Khatan as a single parent is disturbing at best.

Mary Ann said...

Dr. Lillian Glass has posted her analysis of Kate on the Regis show. I left my first comment on her site. I am also posting here for the first time. (Long time reader) Kate has finally crossed a line that I cannot ignore. My mother (there are seven of us) lacked natural maternal instict. Her children were a disappointment and inconvenience and she did not hesitate to let us know that was how she felt. It takes years to understand and recover. I have sympathy for all eight Gosselin children.

Betsy said...

Seems like either she is hiding from Chris now, usually he has snapped some pic of her coming or going into a parking lot of some sort. Watched Joan R, on E last night. She called Kate G a street walker, they had her head cut off and showed a pic of Gosselin wearing the black shiny shorts and blk/wh zebra top with them heels, all said it was a street walker than they put the head on and it was Gosselin. Joan screeched and said for her to run home and take care of them kids..

JudyK said...

Just watched two (2) preview videos on TLC of Monday's night's show and got nauseous. This woman is so vile and stupid. Again, it's all about her, even in the previews. She talks about Chilean Sea Bass being her "favoritist" fish--gawd, she is DUMB--no such word, but no surprise for Kate. (Again, you did NOT write your books [without tons of editing], and you do not write your "blog.") Then, when the captain is showing her the technology for finding fish, she once again makes it about her instead of trying to take in the information and possibly learn something. This woman is not bright. You can BE SURE I will NOT be watching Monday.

Administrator said...

I suppose Joan Rivers is just jellus. She is overcompensating for her own failures in her career and projecting it onto Kate.

Snark.

Not Watching TLC said...

JMO Khate bashed Jon because in the past the controversry surronding their divorce DID up ratings bigtime. She thought (because she is not very original): "I'll do that and people will feel sorry for me and I'll be big in the media again."

What she doesn't get is that her and Jon's divorce is OLD NEWS. She milked it for all it was worth and no one cares anymore. If anyone thinks anything its: "get over it! Plenty of divorced couples make it work."

It will be interesting to see the next show ratings. I am really hoping they will continue to plummet despiter her appearance on this talk show (really Regis and Kelly had credibility?? never, just a sugar coated frothy mess of PR).

Just noticed this said...

Oh my Gosh! I just visited that uberfan you tube page. That was crazy! I don't know, that took obsessed to a whole new level.

Anonymous said...

Just read that Celebrity Apprentice will start filming their new show soon to air in the spring of 2011. PLEASE tell me she is not on it.

Julianna said...

WHAT? said...

WHAT? Is that "Gosselin Pledge" a joke, or is it really posted somewhere?

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It's not a joke, unfortunately. An obsessive fan posted it on Youtube. There's a link upthread to a video, with multiple pictures of the children, and writing over top of the photos. If you highlight the words, they become clear and you can read the "pledge."

http://www.youtube.com/user/nbr1kategosselinfan

Fido: I remember there was a "creed" that they made and put it on the refrigerator, I think. It was all about being nice, respectful, etc. I can't remember the episode, though...

Anonymous said...

why don't you just rename your blog to GWOP2 ?

Bodyguard my a$$ said...

Kelly Ripa needs to get spanked in the ratings and feedback. I went on R&K's website, hit help, and was able to email them. They deserve to be inundated with emails letting them know that Friday's show was sick, not at all entertaining, and contributed to the immense pain the Gosselins are already living with. Shame on Michael Gellman, Kelly Ripa and Anderson Cooper for hurting those children. Kudos to Regis for refusing to give that sick bitch an audience for her narcissism and hatred. Kelly Ripa is a fake. I'm not a fan, but now I will avoid that show like the plague. Anyone that touches Kate should pay for it.

Michelle said...

Classic! Who predicted the sheeple would attack a talented, intelligent woman like Rene Syler? You were right! Here's Rene's excellent reply:

Couple of points: My name is Rene (one e on the end, yep, the boy’s way, named after an uncle), I have a very full life (not too disgusting, except a the typical, sewer problems here and there, dirty kids and the like) and I do know Kate, having worked with her last summer. Trust me, I AM holding my tongue and that’s all I will say about that. Thanks for stopping by and weighing in. Being called vile and disgusting is the most excitement I am going to have all day!

wayward said...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

A sheeple responded to Rene Syler's post about Kate with the typical, straight from the script, (spelling errors and all!) patented sheeple comeback-

" Well I see you too have jumped on thr hate Kate bandwagon. It does get you a lot of hits on your site now doesn’t it. Do any of you remember the GMA interview where Jon said he despised Kate, but since it is Jon thna that is perfectlt ok. Jon can leave his children for months have a different girlfriend every other month. sell pictures of the kids to the paps non-stop but he is a good parent. So REnee you think it is agood thing that there are sites on the internet where all day long they sit and trash Kate G. The vile and disgusting things that are said about her are appalling. I see now you have decided to get in onit. There is something seriously wrong with people who get so much pleasure from hating someone they do not know. If I were Kate I would hire a lawyer and start going after some of these people. You are sick and disgusting and need to get a life."

To which Rene responded: "Hiya Carol! I just call it like I see it. I couldn’t really give two shits about what other sites are saying. I based my post on what I alone observed and that was Kate trying her best to drive a wedge between her kids and their father, all the while with a smile on her face. You must have missed the part where I said Jon was no great prize (which I have said in the past)? Kate needs to (as I said) stop talking about taking the high road and actually do it. It would have been very easy for her and her PR team, to come up with a pat answer for when she is asked that question that would make her and Jon (by extension) look like they at least had a modicum of class.

Couple of points: My name is Rene (one e on the end, yep, the boy’s way, named after an uncle), I have a very full life (not too disgusting, except a the typical, sewer problems here and there, dirty kids and the like) and I do know Kate, having worked with her last summer. Trust me, I AM holding my tongue and that’s all I will say about that. Thanks for stopping by and weighing in. Being called vile and disgusting is the most excitement I am going to have all day!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! A sheeple who flings the old, used line about "you don't even know her" and gets blasted back with "YES, I do." If I had to guess, with Ms. Syler's journalist backround, she might have been involved with the Paula Deen project where Kate failed miserably with filming the test shows.

OMG! said...

The Yahoo OMG section has an article about Kate's behavior on R&K. If you read the comments, they are almost 100% written by people who are tired of Kate. She has tried to keep her name in the news, and she's done a pretty job of it. But I don't think she was prepared to have BM and three other people in the world as her only fans.
The tides have turned.

K8SUCKS said...

fidosmommy and WHAT?:

K8 and Jon called it the Gosselin Family Mission Statement . It was a list of things that they were going to abide by as a loving, Christian family. It was on one of the earlier episodes and they were sitting together in the garage (putting shoes on?). SUCH BS (for them only, not anyone else who does something similiar).

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

I cannot wait for Kate to be on a talk show, and the audience starts boo-ing and hissing everytime she tells an untruth.

I CAN'T WAIT!!!

JudyK said...

Anonymous said... Just read that Celebrity Apprentice will start filming their new show soon to air in the spring of 2011. PLEASE tell me she is not on it.
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As I stated earlier, I am positive that's EXACTLY the reason she was on Regis & Kelly. Trump is one of Regis' best friends and Trump is on Regis & Kelly tomorrow. Too much of a coincidence for her to be on there Friday and Trump on Monday.

Anonymous said...

I just found this site by accident when I was Googling something on parenting children of divorce.

I hate Kate Gosselin as much or more than any of you--she truly makes my blood boil. However, I believe that the quickest way to get rid of this NO-TALENT, narcissistic HAG is to ignore her. Unfortunately, the more attention that we pay, the more we blog and the more time celebrity gossip sites like ROL spend reporting on her pathetic antics, the longer she stays in the public view.

Turn off the show, and IGNORE her...no blogging, no comments on gossip sites, etc. Unfortunately, we live in an era where any publicity, especially negative = ratings = more.

Trust me, she loves this and probably reads every word to satisfy her need for attention. Ignore her, and her 15 minutes will end soon (couldn't be soon enough for 99.99% of us). TLC are you listening?

No Shame in her Game said...

That pledge thing was called a mission statement - one of her first extravagant purchases aside from the thousands upon thousands of dollars for groceries (not). She ordered it and they all went over it and at the time I thought how great it was. I am quite certain now that she had nothing to do with it. It was made a part of an episode so TLC probably bought and paid for it. I can't believe how she pulled the wool over peoples' eyes the whole time hiding the monster within that she unleashed as soon as the cameras shut down. Can you imagine what Jon and the kids must have gone through with her when the cameras were not rolling. That is why I dislike her so much. She misrepresented herself during the time they were soliciting money from charities and let loose the monster as soon as she did not need them anymore and got rid of Jon once she got her replacement for him. She is a vile and evil woman and deserves the comeuppance that she is gettig now.

PatE said...

One photo catches Kate in an unguarded moment, catching what she really looks like without a fullfrontal flash.

Wonder how that slipped through. Time for a face lift Kate.

Sorry to be so mean, but this fake brings out the mean in people after watching her year after year ruin the lives of ALL the people she touches.

Lord only knows the neurosis she passes on to her poor kids.

PatE said...

Forgot the link:
http://preesi.lefora.com/2010/09/03/post-pics-and-articles-here-8/page11/#post214

Moose Mania said...

http://tlc.discovery.com/videos/jon-kate-plus-8-mission-statement.html

I wonder if Kate ever goes back and reads this, or if it went out with all of the trash when she moved.

Anonymous said...

I think that what so many of the sheeple, (and anti-sheeple as well) don't realize is that there are people who DO KNOW Kate who post, but hold their tongues because if they said what they really know, few people would believe it. There are people who post who have known her for many years, may have been classmates of hers, may have worked with her, may be former or current neighbors, or may have kids in the same school system.

Sheeple think that all Kate bashing takes place only by people in "far-away lands" who are vile and disgusting and have no up close and personal knowledge of her. Nothing could be further from the truth.

LisaNH said...

No Shame in her Game said... TLC doesn't have time to be bothered with Kate. They are too busy prepping their new family with the Mexican tups amd their new breakout star, Kat Von D. They have linked her with Jessie James and she is everywhere these days. The new family may just make it, they will be different like

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Ugh, I can't stand Kat as much as I cannot stand Kate. Her vocab is about the same (starting every sentence with the word "Like"). Kat is a pathetic wannabe too. But in Kat's defense, she has talent, at least. She is a great artist (too bad she didn't get into painting rather than tattoos).

What does Kate have to bring to the table? Can she act? Can she paint? Can she dance? Can she carry on a conversation that doesn't involve herself?

Moose Mania said...

"Classic! Who predicted the sheeple would attack a talented, intelligent woman like Rene Syler? You were right! Here's Rene's excellent reply:"

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Sheeple are class-less, and as dumb as they come. They'd attack the Queen of England, heads of state, the Pope himself, or even old Al Einstein if they thought he was way off base on his Theory of Relativity!

mama mia said...

This is what Kate's own mother posted on Imperfect Women blog.

54.Rhonda; If you knew what happened when Jon had his visitation in the house, you wouldn’t have said they should switch in and out for visitation. I wish I could tell you but I can’t. Suffice is to say–you wouldn’t want him in YOUR house!!
Jane: I am VERY proud of my daughter! She didn’t trash Jon–she only commented that the kids like to be at home–It’s not as comfortable at Jon’s crowded apt. as it is in their Big house and there’s not as much to do there, I am sure. Kate was just stating facts!
What Kate said WAS true–up until lately he has NOT spent much time with his kids–It keeps one BUSY being a “CELEBRITY” you know!! Yes–He USED to be an attentive dad–THEN–he wasn’t!
I love how he said he wouldn’t comment on the LIES–saying that–he just commented!!!

September 11, 2010 at 4:57 pmMom of KT says:

Dee said...

If I remember correctly Kate has said in the past, "...even negative attention is attention." So, I am guessing she doesn't care about what we say or what people wanted her to say. I think ratings are falling, so she is trying to increase her attention so people will watch her show. She obviously doesn't care what effect this has on her kids or image, she is about herself, her ratings and HER show. That woman needs to help, seriously.

Dee said...

One more thing for Jon and Ellen....action speaks louder than words. Jon, like other people written, run to the nearest attorney and take control of your kids. Don't be worried about bashing her on twitter, etc. Hit it where her hurts...her pocketbook. If you get the kids, she will will have to pay alimony and child support. Her new bash on R&K will not help her one bit or any of her other latest moves. Please Jon...do this for your adorable kids.

Anon 1 said...

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... I cannot wait for Kate to be on a talk show, and the audience starts boo-ing and hissing everytime she tells an untruth.
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I'd like to see the audience boo and hiss, the instant she walks out on stage, before she's even opened her mouth.

Administrator said...

mama mia said... This is what Kate's own mother posted on Imperfect Women blog.
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That's not Kate's mother! How in the world does Kate's mother know whether the children are comfortable at Jon's? Has she ever explained when she last saw them? She has not even seen these kids in YEARS. Kate herself said she is not in their lives on her own show. Why is there not one shred of evidence this woman has seen them since they were infants??? I wish the real Kate's mom would step up and stop this whole charade. It is ILLEGAL to impersonate someone, even over the internet.

After reading that post I definitely don't believe that is Kate's mom. It was too perfect, it was too much like exactly what the sheeple want to hear. Kate is wonderful and Jon is horrible.

And if that is Kate's mom? Kate's mom is defending what Kate did on Regis and Kelly and made derogitory comments about her grandchildren's father too, she sounds like a toxic grandma to me and Kate was right to estrange her.

If that's Kate's mom, I can certainly see where Kate gets her total lack of class from. It's a million times more classy to not comment on this mess of a situation.

IDModo said...

"Kate's Mom" sounds just like Kate: innuendo, skating around the context of comments made about Jon, not owning any responsibility for anything.

I wonder if Kate is impersonating her mom?

If inappropriate things went on when Jon was in the house, as a concerned grandmother, she should stand up and speak out. My guess is that this is just another incidence of troublemaking by Kate and the TLC PR machine.

Administrator said...

What's inappropriate is for Kate's mom to run to a blog crying that something inappropriate went on in the house. Take your concerns to the courts, to the authorities, or to the people involved. Not a bunch of bloggers. What a tool.

Oh and by the way, wonder what things are going on when HER daughter is there, given the way the children were shrieking when Jon had to drop them off with none other than Kate.

No wonder this grandmother isn't in their lives.

Administrator said...

Anonymous said... why don't you just rename your blog to GWOP2 ?
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I let this comment through just to show that the sheeple cannot refute Kate on the issues. They have resorted to stuff like this.

What does this have to do with refuting us on all our points about Kate since Friday? Absolutely nothing.

Please debate the issues, not the people. Otherwise, sheeple comments are kaput.

Livvy said...

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/NaVnE1cy_ee/These+Kate+Gosselin+Estranged+Parents/lpW_NwJJBpb/Kenton+Kreider

These are supposedly pics of Kates parents at the house. These were taken last year when Kate was away and Jon invited the parents. Have never seen any pics of them at the house when Kate was home.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Who really knows if that is or isn't Kate's mother.

I've been to her kid sister's facebook page, it's laced with Christian quotes- all in Kate's defense. Her mother appears to periodically post there as well.

I think Kate's mom & sister are probably the only ones left in the family that feel sorry for psycho-Kate, and have to defend Kate. Even if Kate wants nothing to do with them.

I wonder if Kate was always twisted/troubled, even as a child?

I guess for as horrible as Kate is, her mother still sees her as her child- good, bad, & or ugly.

And I say, better her than me...

Administrator said...

I suppose those could be Kate's parents and how interesting they were over when JON was over but not Kate. This was a year and a half ago. I can't picture the woman in that photo typing in CAPS and writing something like what was written on the blog. She is holding Hannah's hand, then goes and trashes her father on a blog?

There was also another older woman there. Who knows who those people were.

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/fp/These+Kate+Gosselin+Estranged+Parents+RuJUhToqb-8m.jpg

I think I recall seeing her facebook page once, Kate's mom is very young, only 17 when Kate was born, and I don't recall if this pic matches the pic I saw of her.

Moose Mania said...

"If you knew what happened when Jon had his visitation in the house, you wouldn’t have said they should switch in and out for visitation. I wish I could tell you but I can’t. Suffice is to say–you wouldn’t want him in YOUR house!!"

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This sounds like something low-life sheeple would write. Totally without class or forethought. I thought it was the KIDS' house. Shouldn't they have a say whether or not their father would be allowed visitation there? IF something went on in that house, there is no doubt in my mind that Kate would have made a mad dash to any television talk show that would have her and in her own sneaky, round-about way let the world know about it.

Administrator said...

A grandmother just wouldn't write something like that. Not any of the three I was blessed to have anyway. Two grandmas and a great-grandma.

My grandmothers were kind and soft-spoken and positive. Their grandchildren came first way before any kind of petty squabbles or disagreements with adults.

And I know for a fact, as I found out after her death, she did not like my mother. But did I know this while she was in my life? No, she wouldn't allow it.

It really doesn't matter whether this woman is her mom or not, but he apple don't fall far from the tree for Kate it seems.

Lolly said...

Admin, This is Kate's mother, she works for a college on staff. I am trying to find the link for the parents together. Have to search a little But here is the link to the mother's pix. Don't know who that elderly couple is, but it is surely not the parents. That post supposedly from Kate's mother is too funny. The parents don't want any publicity at all, but she blogs?? And say that bs ? It sounds more like Chrissie.

http://www.lvc.edu/human-resources/staff.aspx

Lolly said...

These links are no secret, they have been on Wikianswers forever. Here is the link to both parents.

http://www.facebook.com/profile/pic.php?uid=AAAAAQAQYGj-hPhF3OoXMNIBWnCuBgAAAAj1MVqbXcOVFA%2C%2C

Nacho Mama said...

Administrator said... I suppose those could be Kate's parents and how interesting they were over when JON was over but not Kate. This was a year and a half ago. I can't picture the woman in that photo typing in CAPS and writing something like what was written on the blog. She is holding Hannah's hand, then goes and trashes her father on a blog?

There was also another older woman there. Who knows who those people were.

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/fp/These+Kate+Gosselin+Estranged+Parents+RuJUhToqb-8m.jpg

I think I recall seeing her facebook page once, Kate's mom is very young, only 17 when Kate was born, and I don't recall if this pic matches the pic I saw of her.

September 12, 2010 2:49 PM



I can assure you, that is NOT Kate's mother. Neither one of those ladies is Kate's mother.
Preesi has photos of Kate's parents and siblings. I also saw Charlene Kreider's Facebook page, and she is not one of those two women in that link.

Midnight Madness said...

"A grandmother just wouldn't write something like that. Not any of the three I was blessed to have anyway. Two grandmas and a great-grandma."

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Not only that, but Kate's mom is the wife of a minister. I think that the sheeple, when trying to adopt the identity of another, are forgetting that fact. No clergyman's wife that I know would ever jump on an internet blog and bad-mouth their former son-in-law, no matter how disagreeable the relationship might have been between them. They just wouldn't.

The style of writing, the grammar and language have all the earmarks of a sheeple. I think they better be careful if they are claiming to be someone that they are not. It may come back to haunt them, with the "real" person possibly taking some kind of action. Sheeple aren't the swiftest people on the planet!

Lolly said...

Admin, FYI both of those links are also on Kate's blog! LOL Someone posted and TLC posted it LOL Under the "Takes Two". You may not want to post the links, that is fine, but those pix surely are not the parents. And the grandparents are dead, she wrote a memorial of sorts about her grandmother in one of her books.

IDModo said...

Re;Pictures of the Kreiders: I don't think that is the Kreiders. Isn't it the older couple that moved away and were reunited with the kids when they went to that hotel that had the ducks in the lobby? I remember the kids shopping for presents for them and they got a tool belt for the older man. Anyone else remember this?

Daisy Girl said...

To Administrator---please remove any of the following you think is too personal.

The picture of a Charlene Kreider at the PA college IS Kate's mother.

Sheeple you think I am wrong....Go to Wiki and get her name....Charlene R. Kreider

Go to People Find put in her name and state and up comes Charlene R. Kreider age 52 and the relitives names and ages..

KREIDER, KENTON E (Age 61)
KREIDER, JODI R (Age 34)
KREIDER, KEVIN A (Age 33)
KREIDER, CLAIRISSA A (Age 28)

Recognize anyone we know and love?
The women in the picture at the house which the sheeple say is Kate's mother are not!! Sorry ladies you are too old looking to be 52

Nacho Mama said...

Charlene Kreider photo

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww62/OurLadyofPizza/charlenekreider.jpg

Nacho Mama said...

Charlene Kreiders Facebook Page

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000213323437&ref=search

Administrator said...

That woman who works for a small PA college looks the right age to be Kate's mother and seems to have good skin like Kate, and has her eyes and nose, and resembles Hannah. I think that's spot on.

livvy said...

Ok. That makes sense. The woman in the pic has a facebook page too under Charlene Kreider.
Interesting who the couple in the other pics. The children seem friendly with them but then again those little ones warm up to everyone. I do remember those pics were taken when Kate was away around the same time Jon had Kevin and Jodi over to visit.

Mystery Solved said...

IDModo said... Re;Pictures of the Kreiders: I don't think that is the Kreiders. Isn't it the older couple that moved away and were reunited with the kids when they went to that hotel that had the ducks in the lobby? I remember the kids shopping for presents for them and they got a tool belt for the older man. Anyone else remember this?

September 12, 2010 3:39 PM


I'm pretty sure that is Joan. She used to come over and fold all of the clothes and then Carla would put them away. Joan used to babysit Jon when he was little. She was also seen in the show during the 4th of July parade when Kate made all the kids walk with the leash.
I remember Mady and Cara choosing a Christmas gift to buy for Joan and her husband at Kmart during the St. Jude episode.

Lolly said...

IDModo said... Re;Pictures of the Kreiders: I don't think that is the Kreiders. Isn't it the older couple that moved away and were reunited with the kids when they went to that hotel that had the ducks in the lobby?"

that was Miss Beverly who helped with the laundry. That is not the same lady. Interesting, I did a search because I couldn't remember if it was her or Nana Janet, I ran across an old blog that talked about Nana Janet passing away, and two of her granddaughters made posts. They sound like real granddaughters, Somone asked if Kate called when Nana Janet died, they said no, but Jon did. As much as that woman did for that family, Kate didn't call??

http://watching-tv.ew.com/2009/11/01/jon-amp-kate-plus-8-nana-janet-ded/

Lolly said...

Here is the segment for the TN hotel with Miss Beverly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN0H071S5go

jibberjabbers said...

The Human Resource may or may not be Kate's mother. There are 2 Charlene R. Kreiders living in PA.

One in Hershey PA, and the other in Annville PA.

I doubt Kate's mother works for a university. As they own a trailer park or farm.

Kate's mother (Charlene) Facebook page has a totally different picture. Although it's probably a younger picture of Kate's mom.

Charlene, Kate and Clarissa

Anon 1 said...

Those pics at zimbio are not the parents. The couple is Nana Joan and her husband, and it was taken, either when a relative of Kate's died or when Nana Janet died. This was posted at least a yr. ago, probably longer. Doesn't anyone remember Nana Joan who babysat Jon as a kid, and then the 8 when they lived in their last house, by Jodi and Kevin. Pretty sure that's her with the dark hair.

Anon 1 said...

I don't think Joan is the one that moved to Tn. The one that moved to Tn. was the one though that folded the clothes. But Joan was the one that kept Jon as a child and then the 8, at least once when they lived in the old house, in E'town. (I do remember/know, this wasn't Jon inviting them over, it was a visitation, after someone had died.)

Anon 1 said...

IIRC, there were 3 older women in their lives. Nana Joan (dark haired lady w/her husband, I assume, over at the 'new' house above), Nana Janet (the one that died a yr. or so ago), and the 3rd one I'm having a hard time coming up w/her name...I'll research.

Anon 1 said...

I did find the Mission Statement vid while looking for Nana Janet's pic.

http://tlc.discovery.com/videos/jon-kate-plus-8-mission-statement.html

Anon 1 said...

Ok, here is an obituary of Nana Janet's death and the Pony ride video of her.

http://watching-tv.ew.com/2009/11/01/jon-amp-kate-plus-8-nana-janet-ded/

Mystery Solved said...

Mystery Solved said... IDModo said... Re;Pictures of the Kreiders: I don't think that is the Kreiders. Isn't it the older couple that moved away and were reunited with the kids when they went to that hotel that had the ducks in the lobby? I remember the kids shopping for presents for them and they got a tool belt for the older man. Anyone else remember this?

September 12, 2010 3:39 PM


I'm pretty sure that is Joan


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I mean Beverly. My bad. Brain fart here. Sorry 'bout that.

Anon 1 said...

Lolly! Thank you! Yes, it was Beverly that moved to Tn. That was making me crazy trying to remember her name. Thanks!

It's Joan said...

Whew! It's definitely Joan and Mr. Terry

Watch the 38 second mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiRkC4DrwJ0

Administrator said...

Oh and nice, listen to what Kate tells Alexis: "Alexis no crying at the parade or else they'll put you atop a truck and use you for a siren."

Geez, she's three!

Lolly said...

jibberjabbers said... Your are probably right, who knows LOL THat info about the college has been on Wikianswers forever.That pix you posted does look more like the daughters. thanks

Anon... lol I was trying to remember the name too. I did the search and found it. you were right about waht she did!

WOW I was reading more on that old blog about Nana Janet, IF the posters are the granddaughters of Nana Janet... they said that Nana Janet still came over to help up to 3 months before she died in late 2009. They weren't dissing the Gosselins in the posts, but someone did ask if Kate had called, they said no, but Jon did, and Jon was going to visit when she got sick, but never did. That woman volunteerd for how many years?? No visit? Jon did call, but ... wow

(Hey if people believe Kate's MOM is posting on a blog, I can believe this is Nana Janet's grandkids posting)

http://watching-tv.ew.com/2009/11/01/jon-amp-kate-plus-8-nana-janet-ded/

Administrator said...

Yup Nanny Joan.

Glad at least Jon kept them in the kids' lives. I'm sure Kate had long estranged them by then.

Still begs the question, if that person is Kate's mom, why wasn't she there that day and not some random neighbor named Nanny Joan?

Lolly said...

THat sure looks like Joan and Terry are the older couple at the Gosselin house! GREAT~ that does look like them. Great detective work !

BUT it was still Miss Beverly at the hotel LOL I dont even remember Joan!

Lolly said...

Admin she uses threats as discipline, always has, probably always will. Remember the chicken coop? "Whoever misbehaves had to clean it" Insteaad of presenting as it being part of being a responsible pet owner? She could have taught them something about owning pets. It is all about the threats.

Administrator said...

It's a civil action to represent you are someone you are not.

It's called misappropriation of name or likeness. It's basically when you pretend to be someone you are not. The person who is the real person can sue you for invasion of their privacy.

From the Restatement on Torts: It applies also when the defendant makes use of the plaintiff's name or likeness for his own purposes and benefit, even though the use is not a commercial one, and even though the benefit sought to be obtained is not a pecuniary one.

The blog doesn't have to be making one dime off this to be in big trouble for impersonating her.

Anonymous said...

"One in Hershey PA, and the other in Annville PA.

I doubt Kate's mother works for a university. As they own a trailer park or farm."

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Their address is Elizabethtown Road, Hershey, PA. The couple owns a trailer park in South Londonderry Township, which is more like a camp ground with facilities for camper/trailers. Honest.

--a former neighbor :-)

Administrator said...

It's a civil action to represent you are someone you are not.

It's called misappropriation of name or likeness. It's basically when you pretend to be someone you are not. The person who is the real person can sue you for invasion of their privacy.

From the Restatement on Torts: It applies also when the defendant makes use of the plaintiff's name or likeness for his own purposes and benefit, even though the use is not a commercial one, and even though the benefit sought to be obtained is not a pecuniary one.

The blog doesn't have to be making one dime off this to be in big trouble for impersonating her.

It's Joan said...

Whew! It's definitely Joan and Mr. Terry

Watch the 38 second mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiRkC4DrwJ0

Administrator said...

Oh and nice, listen to what Kate tells Alexis: "Alexis no crying at the parade or else they'll put you atop a truck and use you for a siren."

Geez, she's three!

Anon 1 said...

IIRC, there were 3 older women in their lives. Nana Joan (dark haired lady w/her husband, I assume, over at the 'new' house above), Nana Janet (the one that died a yr. or so ago), and the 3rd one I'm having a hard time coming up w/her name...I'll research.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kat said...

I cannot wait for Kate to be on a talk show, and the audience starts boo-ing and hissing everytime she tells an untruth.

I CAN'T WAIT!!!

Just noticed this said...

Oh my Gosh! I just visited that uberfan you tube page. That was crazy! I don't know, that took obsessed to a whole new level.

Mary Ann said...

Dr. Lillian Glass has posted her analysis of Kate on the Regis show. I left my first comment on her site. I am also posting here for the first time. (Long time reader) Kate has finally crossed a line that I cannot ignore. My mother (there are seven of us) lacked natural maternal instict. Her children were a disappointment and inconvenience and she did not hesitate to let us know that was how she felt. It takes years to understand and recover. I have sympathy for all eight Gosselin children.

mama mia said...

Steve wants his paycheque to continue so he is telling Kite how fontastik it is that everyone is posting her Regis interview, and they are saying she looks gorgeous in her red frock, and come on now Kite, you have to get up, strap those heels on and let's get you to Target, Chris is waiting. And in the background Alexis is screaming for Kate and Steve will ring for the nanny and ask her to keep the children quiet for the rest of the day as Mummy needs to work to buy them toys and food.

WHAT? said...

WHAT? Is that "Gosselin Pledge" a joke, or is it really posted somewhere?

When I read it I got goosebumps. Not the fun kind. I was creeped out beyond words.

Why would ANY parent not just tolerate or allow, but intentionally seek the attention that brings so many strangers into their children's lives?

Kate doesn't need a bodyguard. The children probably do. How does she justify what she's done to her kids?

Administrator said...

Anon 1 said... Just throwing this out there...you reckon TLC told her, after the R&K show was scheduled, that their show was "retiring"?
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There are problems, for certain.

FarmingonFarmville said...

Julianna: Wow, I didn't even notice that Gosselin pledge. I was too freaked out by the photos. What is wrong with people? Seriously, how is obsessive fan love healthy and normal? THESE are the types of people who stalk celebs. Too bad the G kids aren't the one who Steve/purse boy "protects"

Kate is a nasty woman said...

"Lolly said... And someone high up, (O'Niell) has this obsession (it seems to me) that Kate become a "star", even though, they KNOW she has no marketable skills. Not sure what the driving force behind all this pushing her onto the public."

I have felt this way for a long time. Something is rotten in the TLC/O'Niell woodpile. TLC's obsession with Kate the talentless, ugly, mean, two bit fame whore is mind boggling.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kat said...

I read on another blog that in the next episode, the trained monkeys- I MEAN the children go deep sea fishing, and 4 of the children are filmed sea sick, throwing up into a bucket. Way to go KATE & TLC! All that pain & embarrassment for the kids, and your stinkin' ratings are still going DOWN! I hope you are proud of yourselves.

Screw you.

To the rest of the viewers that insist on watching this so-called show- when are you going to wake up?! It's not entertaining anymore, it's ABUSIVE!