Wednesday, December 18, 2019

BREAKING NEWS: Kate found in contempt of court and fined for filming the children

The punishment was a $1500 fine. She also owes $25,000 in other attorney's fees to Jon (oh sweet irony). Kate must obtain Jon's consent for any future filming and provide a production schedule. The dispute stems from the "lost" College Bound episode that aired last October. The deadline for the 25k is looming quickly, it is due Dec 31.

What could happen if she doesn't pay up or follow the orders in the future? Additional fines are on the table. A judge also has authority to put her in jail.

A big thank you to Daily Mail for discovering this story earlier this year and pursuing it to its conclusion.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7805741/Kate-Gosselin-contempt-filming-underage-kids-WITHOUT-work-permits.html




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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



I think the Royal family cannot earn money while still being an HRH, because it would appear they are making money from just being a senior member of the royal family. And being who they are would certainly be plus for making money on their titles alone. A conflict of interest type thing. I worked for the government and was not allowed to campaign for any person running for office. I could vote of course, but could not endorse or campaign for any political figure. It makes sense to me.

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Yes that’s it it’s a conflict of interest. There were probably constitutional problems with what they wanted to do, even if everyone was totally fine with them doing it, they might not have been permitted to by the country.

JR said...

No offense to Canadians but why of all places would you move to a cold boring place like that... I’d be in my way to Hawaii...buy a nice home on Waikiki beach and be beach bums... now that’s the life! Not freezing my ass off up there..

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

No Vancouver is mild, like Seattle! Canada is an endless playground if you like the outdoors! It’s gorgeous and the people are lovely. Harry and Meghan were spotted hiking and at a lake over Xmas so this is going to be a dream for those who love nature. All the fun Harry has outdoors in Scotland he’ll find in Canada. You can’t get bored there if you like to go outside.

capecodmama said...

Vancouver looks absolutely gorgeous.

jolie Jacquelyn said...

JR said... 4
No offense to Canadians but why of all places would you move to a cold boring place like that... I’d be in my way to Hawaii...buy a nice home on Waikiki beach and be beach bums... now that’s the life! Not freezing my ass off up there..

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Sorry (see, we're known to be polite ) - I live in Vancouver & it's not cold & boring.
Admin is right, the weather is very much like Seattle's & it's mild here most of the year.
To each his/her own, but I find Hawaii can become boring after a few weeks too. Done it.

Formerly Duped said...

JR @4...


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I am from Canada and living in the US. Canada is far from boring and has a variety of climates, not all cold. When we lived near Vancouver my kids never saw snow. Cities, rural areas, coast to coast vistas, mountains, flatlands, prairies, lots to do, and people are nice!Also not everyone says 'eh?" lOl Just from my experiences, living on each coast and growing up in Toronto, a major metropolis.Is just as diverse as the US.You should book a trip there.

JR said...

I just looked at it.. it’s beautiful and the temps right now are better than Jersey this time of years..I didn’t realize how mild it is

JR said...

Now she’s suing for pictures taken from yesterday when she walking her dogs... she was bursting with a smile on her face the whole time ... why can’t they take pictures when they’re just civilians now with no expectations of privacy

JR said...

Omg she’s been there a hot minute and already it’s starting... get used to be an average joe.. god this girl is a pain in the ass..she’s not going away anytime soon and Harry will get fed up with her crap... I don’t think this girl has ever been content

JR said...

The paps are saying she called them!!! Wtf

pym said...

Thanks for your comment, Admin. Vancouver Islander here.

Last week it snowed and I was horrified. It was a rare event and I had just been welcoming my blooming snowdrops and emerging spring bulbs. I'm quite a bit further north than where the Windsors are staying so I don't expect to bump into them at the local pub.

The rumor is that they are looking to settle in Vancouver which is as sophisticated a city as you will find anywhere. It's only as boring as you want it to be.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Now she’s suing for pictures taken from yesterday when she walking her dogs... she was bursting with a smile on her face the whole time ... why can’t they take pictures when they’re just civilians now with no expectations of privacy

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Goodness she whipped that lawsuit up fast. You’re right she is.

I’m going to have to finally lol agree with you. UNLESS she was walking on someone’s private property, she’d do better to just have a level of acceptance about the paparazzi. Now that’s something all celebs deal with and most have a level of acceptance with it unless it crosses a line. You couldn’t even see Archie’s face in the photos.

Nicky said...

They are specifically on Vancouver Island. I don't think they will stay there long term - you would have to be a committed islander to deal with the constant commute to Vancouver (ferry or seaplane). I'm very familiar with the area they are staying. For the last 20 years, my inlaws have lived in the same neighbourhood. Not in a mansion of course, but there are many hidden "enclaves" where multi-million dollar homes are really hidden from view. My inlaws lived (they moved further up-island last fall) in a middle class neighbourhood 5 minutes away from where they are now.
The good thing is that it is a 10 minute drive to the airport, and about the same to the ferry terminal (totally cannot see them using the ferry!).
North Saanich/Deep Cove/Sidney (where they have been spotted) is about 20 minutes from the city of Victoria. The people who live there are "granola" (my term), and outdoor activities are the mainstay.
I could see them moving to Vancouver, as it would be easier for ppl visiting them regarding flights, as well as other flights for them. I don't think there are many direct flights to Victoria from the US - possibly NW states only. Vancouver is even more expensive than Toronto, so they would have to spend multi millions to get a house that affords privacy and exclusivity.
Also, her BFF lives in Toronto - I think they will end up there. The flight from Toronto to Victoria is around 6 hrs, so not an easy commute at all.
It's funny because Victoria is kind of known as "little britain", as there are a multitude of english shops, restaurants, etc.
As a canadian, I don't want to pay for their security (most don't). They are obviously welcomed, but ppl do not want to pay. In the end, I will bet the gov't will pay a portion. Trudeau is in a very tight spot - his gov't did not pick up any seats in western canada during the fall election. If he makes a statement that we will pay, ppl will lose their minds.

JR said...

@8... sorry I’ve been misinformed... I heard it was very beautiful but I’m im a beach girl and love the hot weather

JR said...

Since when did she become so important you can’t take a picture of her ... just like every other person walking around 🙄 Did someone forget to tell her she’s a commoner

Nicky said...

Now she’s suing for pictures taken from yesterday when she walking her dogs... she was bursting with a smile on her face the whole time ... why can’t they take pictures when they’re just civilians now with no expectations of privacy
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Where is this coming from? There is nothing anywhere regarding this. link?

JR said...

The way I see it is she wants the importance of what she has become by marrying him but she doesn’t want to follow their rules ... but by no means is she giving up her fame.. she still wants the attention... she’s driving ME crazy.. wait until he’s gotta deal with her changing her mind every two minutes... he’s being “love bombed”. He can’t see her flaws yet... and when he wakes up-oh brother!!!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I assume she would say she is suing because she wants to protect Archie but if she wants Archie that sheltered from who he is she shouldn’t have married a prince. Prince Harry seems like a real gem of a husband but I would never marry him for that reason alone, and he’s lost several serious girlfriends before over that very issue. There is going to have to be some compromise here. Word is one of the things that is annoying William is they are keeping Archie way too cut off from the media. I’m sure William isn’t suggesting they exploit their child I think he just sees it as swimming upstream and not compromising.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Well she may be in luck, I just read up on Canadian paparazzi laws and it seems they are much stricter. Also, they appear to have a lot of unwritten rules and a culture in which Vancouver celebs are supposed to be left alone. I don't know if that means she has a good legal case over taking photos of her out walking the dogs, who knows.

Also just for clarity TMZ is reporting it's not a lawsuit but just a cease and desist letter for now. I thought that was awfully fast for a full on lawsuit. But we all know from our Kate days any old Law Offices of Lavirne & Shirley LLP can whip up a cease and desist within the hour!

https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/21/meghan-markle-cease-desist-letter-photos-archie-canada-paparazzi-legal-action/

https://vancouversun.com/news/staff-blogs/tigers-tale-why-celebrities-get-more-privacy-in-canada

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The letter says "There are serious safety concerns about how the paparazzi are driving and the risk to life they pose"

Oy, Harry really needs more therapy to deal with losing his mother.

Nicky said...

Thanks for the link - I don't normally look at TMZ, so I was confused when searching. My first go to was The Daily Mail, because I was sure that they would jump on any story that was negative about them!.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Also what idiot friend of hers told her move to Vancouver the paps leave you alone here? She has a lot of public support but there are days she doesn't make it easy. Good luck to you, Harry.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

https://www.tripsavvy.com/kitsilano-beach-kits-beach-in-vancouver-3371092

There are beaches in Vancouver JR!

It's not our fault we think Canada is a frozen tundra. It's what's taught in schools.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Good news is there are two dogs in the photos, wonder if that means what I wondered yesterday, she's getting her dog back that she had to leave behind. You know the real reason she couldn't handle England is she had to leave one of her babies behind and was never the same.

It also dawned on me I bet she could start blogging again now that she's no longer a princess. Her blog was good.

Formerly Duped said...

lol, when we moved here, my kids were asked by schoolmates if we had lived in an igloo!

Nicky said...

There are beaches in Vancouver JR!

It's not our fault we think Canada is a frozen tundra. It's what's taught in schools.
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Check out Tofino! (In the summer, of course!). But it's also really cool to hear and see the waves crashing in the Fall/Winter.

I really don't understand why more Americans don't visit here - your dollar is worth at least $0.30 more here! (Maybe even more - haven't checked exchange lately).
If you love the outdoors, it's an amazing place to visit, especially western Canada - can't beat the Rockies! I believe Kate & Will spent some time in Banff in a remote cabin after they got married.

CC said...

I wouldn’t one someone taking a picture of me and I’m just a commoner.

Personally I don’t think you should be able to take pics of people just because they are out in public. Unless they are committing a crime etc. That’s just creepy

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I really don't understand why more Americans don't visit here - your dollar is worth at least $0.30 more here! (Maybe even more - haven't checked exchange lately).
If you love the outdoors, it's an amazing place to visit, especially western Canada - can't beat the Rockies! I believe Kate & Will spent some time in Banff in a remote cabin after they got married.

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I love Canada and some of my dearest memories are fishing with my family up in Canada. I hesitate to say the lake because it's a special hidden gem, but okay, Rice Lake. We also got lots of "culture" spending time in Toronto for much cheaper than NYC.

I think for much of the US Canada is just pretty far away, not easy to get to. For those who live closer to the border, when they do have time off they'd prefer to go somewhere warmer, not colder.

Also Canada tends to be pretty humble and doesn't exactly let us all know they have some of the most spectacular scenery in the world.

Their loss our gain, I like how when I visit Canada is never seems crowded.

CC said...

To clarify, I don’t mean if you happen to be in the background of a picture Someone is taking or in front of a building or object they are photographing etc. I meant if they are specifically taking a picture of you.

JR said...

When I hear Canada I shiver because I just think it’s freezing up there... miscalculation on my part😂😂😂

JR said...

It’s not really creepy.. they are after all very well known and can probably get a good penny for the pictures... they’re not random people... I suspect it’ll die down eventually

Sad but true said...

Is IG doing another purge? Or has K8 just not re-upped on her buying program? Her "followers" hit a peak of roughly 418,250 yesterday afternoon and then started dropping, now down to 418,185. It's really been rather shocking (or should I say, unbelievable?) to watch the followers increase, almost every single day, even through the worst of the revelations about her treatment of Collin.

Dare we hope she has decided this is an expense she can no longer afford? Even though most of these buying programs only amount to a few cups of Starbucks per month. I guess she could always rely on couch-change for this. :)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

wouldn’t one someone taking a picture of me and I’m just a commoner.

Personally I don’t think you should be able to take pics of people just because they are out in public. Unless they are committing a crime etc. That’s just creepy

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Me neither which is why I didn't do anything stupid like marrying a prince.

I think at this point under the circumstances, they've been given a whole lot of what they requested that would never have happened even a decade or two ago, and a fair compromise is to cool it with the more minor complaints and just try to be patient for now while everyone adjusts.

I agree they should ignore it and play nice nice because the media is out for blood on them and when they sense it's a fight or a battle it will just get worse. They really cannot take pics of Archie going for a walk forever and ever, eventually those pics won't be worth much. It's like when the paps were camped outside of the Gosselins. They will go away the less interesting you make yourself, eventually they always go away.

CC said...

JR

I said it’s creepy to have someone take pictures of you in public if you are “a commoner” based on the conversation before.

pym said...

JR it's not all miscalculation. Some parts of Canada are wickedly cold. Newfoundland is buried in snow right now. It's just that Canada is so big it can't be summed up in a generalization.

jolie Jacquelyn said...

If Harry starts to get homesick, be looking out for him at one of the best pubs on Vancouver Island, The Crow & Gate in Cedar!
Love that place!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


JR it's not all miscalculation. Some parts of Canada are wickedly cold. Newfoundland is buried in snow right now. It's just that Canada is so big it can't be summed up in a generalization.

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It’s probably fair to say most of Canada has cold snowy dark winters. Vancouver is an exception because of a variety of factors including the warming effect of the Pacific Ocean, so they’re kind of unique. And likely why so many celebs pick it, a much milder climate.

JR said...

Yeah I get it.. they’re commoners but not commoners...they’re still in the public eye.. she can’t sue everyone who takes a picture of her... personally I think she loves it

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Yeah I get it.. they’re commoners but not commoners...they’re still in the public eye.. she can’t sue everyone who takes a picture of her... personally I think she loves it

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I'm not sure it's that she "loves" all this. My impression of her based on what we know from her social media before he shut it down is she's pretty liberal and progressive, and extremely strong willed and stubborn. She has very firm ideas about things. So does Harry, but she gave him the courage and validation to express them more freely. It's much easier to say we're not gonna do this we're gonna do that when there are two of you versus just one.

I'm beginning to think that she went into this situation with some mindsets that were completely incompatible with royal life. Number one she thought she could "save" Harry from the tragedy of his mother and his family, not fully appreciating that his family has, faults and all, been Harry's greatest strength and raised him right. Getting him "away" from his family also doesn't necessarily solve whatever family issues there are, it often makes it worse because now you're not even seeing each other on a regular basis. The biographical movie Lifetime made some time ago, while completely frivolous, did put forth the theory that she felt sorry for Harry because of his mother, and that her own mother, Doria, had to remind her to be more understanding of Harry's need to protect her as it was born of the broken little boy walking behind the casket (Remember Meghan and I were barely in middle school when it happened).

Then there's her political causes which she's actually done fairly well keeping a-political, but they creep out and I'm guessing the royal family was terribly embarrassed by their prattling on about global warming while getting called out by the media for flying private jets to lavish vacations. She's had to REALLY hold back from her usual outspoken self about politics and I think she thought she would change that. Now that it's clear that rule isn't going to bend much, she has all the more reason to peace out.

And their raising of Archie, I tend to believe the rumors the family's found it terribly frustrating. This is different than Brad Pitt raising a child, he can except to give his kids a mostly private life and has. They are on a whole other level of celebrity and it was getting really old for many when they kept him under lock and key for so long. I wouldn't be surprised if William and Kate have taken this desire to keep things much more private as an insult at them and how they raise their kids much more publicly. Having one brother show his kids freely all the time and another who shows his kid once every three months and even then it's the back of his head, just looks bad.

And like many celebs, even Kate herself, my narcissist, and many others, she moves freely from thing to thing with little looking back over her shoulder. This could be a product of having to jump from project to project audition to audition and not get too caught up in the past. So when it became clear she's taken the royal family just about as far as they were willing to go, she's quit the whole thing and moved on and I will agree she doesn't feel the same kind of pain over all this as Harry does because she wasn't the one raised in it.

Harry clearly adores her, so I hope she doesn't get a mind to feel like moving on from him when she feels things have been exhausted.

I get that this is all stupid and who cares, at the same time, I think the evolution of Harry from a broken little boy who lost his mother in a very public and horrific way, to a young man trying to pave an entirely different path than anyone ever before him, is by far the most interesting royal story in decades.

finally said...

you said this today: that his family has, faults and all, been Harry's greatest strength and raised him right.

Just a few days ago you were prattling on and on about how The Firm just "threw Harry and Megan to the wolves" as a distraction from Andrew.

Harry has not JUST moved his family across the world, he has moved them so far away at a time when his grandparents, who you now admit raised him right, are in their late nineties.
And THIS is the thanks they get? I thought you said you were taught to respect your elders.

The two of them both, Harry and Megan, are selfish, ungrateful, and acting like toddlers. Wah, wah, poor me.
Many of us have known this all along. I don't even like the Queen but for fuck's sake, she's 95 years old.

They couldn't have waited a couple years? SELFISH. I hope his gmom and gdad don't cry themselves to sleep at night.
Disgraceful behaviour from two so-called 'adults', Harry and Megan.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Harry has not JUST moved his family across the world, he has moved them so far away at a time when his grandparents, who you now admit raised him right, are in their late nineties.
And THIS is the thanks they get? I thought you said you were taught to respect your elders.


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Ok, I get it now. So when a couple wants to move their home because they are miserable where they are living, they must only do so if they do not have a grandparent around who might miss them. Since I was actually Harry's age before I lost the last of my four grandparents, I must have waited until I was 35 years old before I could have moved 3000 miles away to CA and started my life.

There are things called airplanes, and within a day Harry can be back home to see his grandmother.

The selfish thing is for a grandparent, or parent, or any family member to stand in the way of a young man who is clearly deeply unhappy with his life in England and very reluctant to raise his son in the same manner he was. Respect is at two way street and the family showed Harry great respect by agreeing to his plan with some modifications. They could have said no, but they didn't.

Also, for anyone who has moved far away before, what you often find with family is that you appreciate them more and the time you do spend together is much more meaningful, and you end up making much more of an effort to plan things together like plays, outings, vacations.

The queen's mother died at 101. It may not be "a couple years" before the queen dies. Half Archie's childhood may be over before she goes and by that time, the damage could be done.

And I say again, he's SIXTH in line. He will NEVER be king. So how far down the line must one be shackled to Buckingham Palace before it's not selfish anymore to move?

JR said...

I think it’s nice to stay with you elders but... I don’t believe you should compromise your own life.. this is our life and it’s to be lived the way we want it not to be lived for some one else’s sake... not fair to you ... Harry doesn’t owe them a thing ...wasn’t he away in Afghanistan for years? What’s the difference

just wondering said...

Harry has not JUST moved his family across the world, he has moved them so far away at a time when his grandparents, who you now admit raised him right, are in their late nineties.
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Grandparents normally encourage their grandchildren to spread their wings. The Queen has left Frogmore as is so Harry has a place should he decide to come back. At her age, she has seen it all, and understands that it is better to let Harry decide his own future. She's a tough cookie & knows what she is doing.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

My grandparents, and I was lucky enough to have two well into adulthood, always supported my dreams, encouraged me, acted excited for me. Even when they expressed concerns that I was living in D.C. right after 9-11, and worried about the expenses of seven years of school. I knew they missed me and maybe weren’t sure about my choices but I always knew they trusted me to make the right decisions for me and that family would always be there for me. That kind of family support gives a young adult the wings they need to fly and thrive. It’s clear the queen has offered the same to Harry. This is his life, not hers.

Grandparents who make a child feel guilty and who have their grandchildren making decisions for their lives that are best for the grandparents, end up with adult children living in the basement never reaching their full potential.

Layla said...

I want to weigh in and say I'm a big fan of Canada! Every time we've visited we've found the people to be really nice and polite. That resonates with me because I grew up in the Midwest, where people are generally very friendly and nice, and once I left I realized that people elsewhere aren't necessarily that way. I mentioned a few weeks ago that I have family who moved from Iowa to NYC. Culture shock! We're really enjoying getting together and exploring, but the rudeness of New Yorkers takes some getting used to. We're planning a trip this summer that includes a few locations in Canada, and we're all looking forward to seeing new things and coming into contact with people who are more like us. The family misses walking into a shop and being greeted with a smile and a friendly "Hello". They'll find that in Canada.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Harry doesn’t owe them a thing ...wasn’t he away in Afghanistan for years? What’s the difference

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He was in Afghanistan for YEARS and even was on the front lines until the stupid media blew his cover and he had to be pulled back. There's actually a cute video of Harry giving an interview at his base to the media and then suddenly gets called up and races like the dickens back to his unit. Duty calls!

He did not ASK to be born into this situation but has absolutely made the most of it, from his military service to the numerous charities he has supported or started from scratch. He has served the queen dutifully since he was 18, knowing the importance of it being third in line he took that seriously as it could be quite possible he would be king if he's only third. Only when he began dropping in the ranks did he begin hinting that he wasn't happy. I imagine his 17 years of service to her factored in greatly to her ease of letting him go now. He has paid his dues for someone now 6th in line.

As William said I didn't want to be known as the boy who was so broken by his mother's death he just never amounted to anything. Both boys have not let her down.

It's almost irrelevant whether Harry going to Canada is a good decision or maybe will end up being a mistake, result in divorce, whatever. The point is it's a good decision in his mind, and so absent something actually harmful to him like drugs or domestic violence, the family needs to let him make the decisions for his family.

I think they know that. It's okay to feel sad and disappointed about something while still being loving and supportive. In fact that's what people of good character do, you are loving and supportive of your family even when you don't always agree. The queen, Prince Charles and Prince William have all shown themselves to be people of tremendous character throughout this. To an impressive degree. This is the stuff of monarchies that survive.

CC said...

You act like they left the grandmother with no one to care for them.

When you grow up and have a family your priority is your new family and doing what’s best for you now. Not that your parents or grandparents might miss you. That’s ridiculous. They aren’t leaving aged parents or grandparents alone with no caregivers or other family around.

And it’s not like they can’t afford to visit whenever they want.

It’s selfish of a parent or grandparent to expect their children to live for them.

CC said...

You act like they left the grandmother with no one to care for them.

When you grow up and have a family your priority is your new family and doing what’s best for you now. Not that your parents or grandparents might miss you. That’s ridiculous. They aren’t leaving aged parents or grandparents alone with no caregivers or other family around.

And it’s not like they can’t afford to visit whenever they want.

It’s selfish of a parent or grandparent to expect their children to live for them.

CC said...

You act like they left the grandmother with no one to care for them.

When you grow up and have a family your priority is your new family and doing what’s best for you now. Not that your parents or grandparents might miss you. That’s ridiculous. They aren’t leaving aged parents or grandparents alone with no caregivers or other family around.

And it’s not like they can’t afford to visit whenever they want.

It’s selfish of a parent or grandparent to expect their children to live for them.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

And Harry and Meghan were so busy that until they moved next door to the queen at Frogmore they didn't see much of her. Neither does William because he WORKS and is busy, often traveling abroad.

That's really nonsensical, I don't want you to move to Canada to stay around with me, but if you stay around with me, I'm going to keep your working royal schedule so busy we'll barely have time for a monthly tea.

Funny enough they may see her more than ever now. They can go back to England for a long Christmas holiday now since they'll be able to see maternal grandma Doria all the time now that they live this side.

Canadian said...

Harry is not the first of the Queen's grandchildren to live in Canada. Her oldest grandson, Peter Phillips, who is Princess Anne's son, lived in Canada for a period of time and married a Canadian girl. Peter is 15th in line to the throne and does not have a royal title as that was Princess Anne's wish. Harry, however, is much more well known than Peter and has a royal title. It is unlikely that his experience in Canada will be the same as his lesser known first cousin. However, he may have consulted his cousin about how to make some of the details work out.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Peter Phillips may have been Harry's best selling point. He was fifth in line when HE was born, higher than Harry's current sixth. He's dropped to 15th since then, but still, is there really all that much difference between 6th and 15th? Neither of you will ever be king so what does it matter if you are 5th or 500th to where you live?

By the way the Phillips kids seem to be some of the nicest most normal royals around.

jolie Jacquelyn said...

Apparently Anne's son Peter Phillips is doing an advertisement for milk on Chinese TV. Wonder how long before we see H&M doing something similar.

Meghan's father is blathering away again about how the Royals "owe" him. Samantha hasn't shut up either. What a family!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Her family is really vile. I don’t get suing over photos taken in a public park. I do get suing because you wrote a heartfelt letter to your father begging him to stop hurting you and he turned around and gave it to the media. Nobody deserves a father who does that to you.

Layla said...

OT from the royals, but--I'm watching Dirty John for the second time with a friend (who hasn't seen it before), and boy, is the mom (Debra) irritating!!! The first time I watched it I was mildly annoyed by the daughters' valley girl accents. This time it's the mom who sets my teeth on edge. She's just so ridiculously passive! I just want to scream at her to grow a pair--even though that doesn't work because she's a woman, but you get my drift. I just can't imagine any mother being such a total wuss when she--and her daughters--are at risk. Arrrggghhh!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


OT from the royals, but--I'm watching Dirty John for the second time with a friend (who hasn't seen it before), and boy, is the mom (Debra) irritating!!! The first time I watched it I was mildly annoyed by the daughters' valley girl accents. This time it's the mom who sets my teeth on edge. She's just so ridiculously passive! I just want to scream at her to grow a pai

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Debra is pitiful both in the podcast and the show. It’s sad how a woman with her life so together, so successful, could be so dumb in a relationship. It happens a lot.

What bothered me the most is that her fractured relationship with the kids over John was so bad that the kids had to avoid her, keep her grandkids from her when John was around. They were right to do so as he was dangerous.

When your own daughters are telling you this relationship is so bad we can’t even be around it, that should wake a mother up. But it didn’t, at least not right away.

She is very lucky her daughters forgave her for all this as her husband nearly killed one of them.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal

Buzzfeed has an incredible article up in which they have collected near identical stories from Duchess Kate and Duchess Meghan over the years, from identical papers, but are comparing and contrasting the headlines and coverage. Frankly, it's shocking how glowing the coverage is of Kate versus Meghan, who got a pass on the same exact things, from the queen missing her child's Christening to branding her royal trademarks. Harry isn't wrong about this. If there is anyone's doubt now they have outright targeted Meghan ....

And actually, I wouldn't doubt if Kate feels terrible about this, how awkward to be the press darling while your evil sister in law gets the wrath, and neither of you have any control over it.

Wowser said...

Has TFW finally slithered into her hole never to come out?

Kirkland said...

Wowser, yes Kate has disappeared as far as I can tell. Discussion on this site is now royal focused. I personally find it extremely boring. I think I'm the only one who thinks so.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Hey give Kate a break she’s trying to drum up her karma money to pay Jon the money the courts ordered her to pay. Maybe she’s groveling to other networks pitching a new show. She must be a busy bee.

foxy said...

I wonder if Kate is on court orders not to publish any pictures or updates on the remaining four cast members. Cara and Mady are adults now. Mady still prefers the limelight where Cara is living a private life that she has always wanted.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I wonder if Kate is on court orders not to publish any pictures or updates on the remaining four cast members. Cara and Mady are adults now. Mady still prefers the limelight where Cara is living a private life that she has always wanted.

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I had that thought. The two thoughts I had are that social media is a court order, and so she's sulking and won't post ANYTHING even if it's not the kids.

Or two, which is more sinister, she's not posting to get back at Jon. She plays hard ball, and retaliation for Jon going after her in court is that Jon will have absolutely no clue what's going on with her or the kids via social media. Complete lockdown. She's that evil.

foxy said...

Admin 64...I totally agree with you that she is evil enough mot to post so Jon doesn't know what is going on with the kids. That sure does make sense. One day those kids will find out what she did and it won't be pretty. I don't think too many of them will stick with Mother.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I'm sure there is a court order, but there's also the fact that Jon has outed her for the lies she has told about the kids. Most of what she posted on Instagram was staged, so no-one is going to believe her anymore if she posts a photo of the 4 remaining kids gathered on her bed watching TV with her. I now believe that they were forced to do so for a mandatory photo and threatened with punishment if they didn't (because it's happened before).

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They were probably brainwashed in the same way they were brainwashed to believe that they "had" to film to put food in their bellies. You "have" to post for social media with your sad Super Bowl cake and bowl of pretzels because that's how we promote the show.

There is one thing Kate didn't account for in all this evil empire, and that's that the kids would grow up and get a brain.

Layla said...

Admin said...
The two thoughts I had are that social media is a court order, and so she's sulking and won't post ANYTHING even if it's not the kids...
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I doubt that there's a court order keeping her from posting pictures of the kids, since she would demand that the same order be extended to Jon--and he has posted pictures of H&C. I think that she's mad because she doesn't have a show and is having a narcissistic tantrum of sorts. If she can't be on TV then nobody can see any of them. I agree that she's trying with all her might to drum up something--anything--that gets her face on TV, and until she has something TV-related to brag about she's not going to entertain the mediocre masses, not even with a boring dog picture. I don't think her self-induced social media exile will last forever, though. Once she exhausts all her options for getting back on TV, she'll need those last 2 or 3 fans to stroke her ego.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think that she's mad because she doesn't have a show and is having a narcissistic tantrum of sorts. If she can't be on TV then nobody can see any of them.


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It didn’t even occur to me this could be an FU against everyone! Oh yeah you don’t want to give me a show? Well then nobody is gonna see or hear about these kids. See how you like that!

She failed to account for all of the public being fine with that.

Anonymous said...

From Dmasy:

Layla (57) -- I commented after I watched Dirty John. I mentioned having some unflattering and negative thoughts about the women involved. I wondered if I was the only one gritting my teeth for several reasons.

Unusual thought process and reactions ...

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#69), yep, she's sure fixing our wagons by not showing us her 4 remaining cast members! My sense of deprivation is interfering with my well being! Can I sue?

Sweet 16 is a little more than 3 months away, but smart money says TLC will offer zero attention. Whittier wrote, "For all sad words from tongue or pen, the saddest are these: 'It might have been.'" Translation: Big Mama ain't gettin' no free trip to Europe, but she might have if she wasn't such a heifer.

Anonymous said...

Jon took Hannah, Collin and two of their friends midnight bowling. Such a normal thing to do, they look like they were having fun. It makes me feel bad for the four remaining with Kate.

Nanb

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The best thing about all this is that the younger kids get to live the majority of their teen years in relative obscurity. This is the greatest gift they could be given. They have enough to deal with already trying to sort out the fame of their younger years, forcing them on camera during the teen years too was not going to help anything. Everybody else realizes this but Kate.

Layla said...

FlimsyFlamsy (71) said...
Sweet 16 is a little more than 3 months away, but smart money says TLC will offer zero attention. Whittier wrote, "For all sad words from tongue or pen, the saddest are these: 'It might have been.'" Translation: Big Mama ain't gettin' no free trip to Europe, but she might have if she wasn't such a heifer.
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Remember what Mama June said, that Kate was so horrible that TLC was done with her forever? But then they took her back. That made no sense, except that maybe Kate was on her best behavior for the 2-part special in 2014 and convinced them she had learned her lesson. The ratings were decent so they signed on for more filming, and I think she went right back to the awful Kate that nobody wanted to work with. She just couldn't keep her ego in check. Even with her bad behavior and plummeting ratings, plus the banishment of Collin and loss of custody of Hannah, they still kept filming, and I will never understand why. She must have thought she could get away with anything, and then she went too far. I still don't think she realizes that she did anything wrong. She'd blame Jon, the GAL, and the judge for trying to interfere with filming. She once said she couldn't understand why the non-custodial parent has any say in what happens to the kids, and I'm sure that also applies to the GAL and the judge. But she'll never accept the blame for ruining everything by defying a court order and putting TLC in legal jeopardy. Never.

Sad but true said...

So in the past 5 days, K8 has lost approximately 300 IG followers. Either she's cancelled her subscription or people are dropping off her feed faster than she has been supplementing. Hard to believe she'd stop buying---that literally costs "couch change" and I doubt she could be that hard up.

Layla said...

Sad but true said... 75
So in the past 5 days, K8 has lost approximately 300 IG followers. Either she's cancelled her subscription or people are dropping off her feed faster than she has been supplementing. Hard to believe she'd stop buying---that literally costs "couch change" and I doubt she could be that hard up.
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She may have stopped paying for followers. After all, if she can't have a TV show, then why bother with followers? She hasn't posted in almost 4 months--not since she was desperately trying to drum up some interest in the "lost episode". If she can't get some kind of return on her efforts, then she can't be bothered.

ncgirl said...

Octomom wished her multiples Happy Birthday yesterday. She said she would never give up on her child with a developmental disorder.

https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/octomom-nadya-suleman-wishes-octuplets-a-happy-birthday-on-ig/

FlimsyFlamsy said...

This weekend on her cooking show, Valerie Bertinelli was preparing a special meal for her son's friend, with whom she's been close since the boys were in kindergarten. She said the young man felt like a son to her. And then there's Schmoopy, whose own son doesn't seem to feel like a son to her.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

This weekend on her cooking show, Valerie Bertinelli was preparing a special meal for her son's friend, with whom she's been close since the boys were in kindergarten. She said the young man felt like a son to her. And then there's Schmoopy, whose own son doesn't seem to feel like a son to her.

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I haven't really seen her show but it happened to be the only thing on while I was on vacation earlier this month so I sat through a whole episode. She is delightful, charming and funny. The whole time I was thinking, of course she got her own show. She has a personality you want to be around, which is pretty much essential for success at a cooking show.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#79), and Valerie has a trait I don't think you can fake, which is so important for the small screen: she's warm.

I've commented before on Valerie having a genial relationship with her ex, Eddie Van Halen. I'm sure their son Wolfgang lacked nothing materially, growing up with 2 rich and famous parents, but their decision to co-parent was probably the greatest gift they could have given him.

NJGal51 said...

I love Valerie on the Kids Baking Championship. She and Duff are great with the kids.

Anonymous said...

My sister works for a customer service call center. In the past few weeks she has sent me multiple memes. All of them involve Kate (aka Karen) being the jerk customer. Kate is now nothing more than a meme under the name Karen.

Andrea

Anonymous said...

I can't believe that TLC has really cut Kate off. Forever? IF it's true, wow. Taking care and maintaining that huge, older house,all that property, even her fleet of cars would be very difficult (overwhelming?) for a single woman. Was she thinking TLC would always be there to"take care of everything"? I'm curious how this story will resolve. (and will we see her usual table of cheese cubes and pretzels for the super bowl?)
M.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I can't believe that TLC has really cut Kate off. Forever? IF it's true, wow. Taking care and maintaining that huge, older house,all that property, even her fleet of cars would be very difficult (overwhelming?) for a single woman. Was she thinking TLC would always be there to"take care of everything"? I'm curious how this story will resolve. (and will we see her usual table of cheese cubes and pretzels for the super bowl?)
M.

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I hate to say it, but I don't think it's going to end well. Those with Jon will likely be okay, but the others.....

She IS going to lose that house, there's no getting around that. Even if she saved every last cent, with the way she has spent, she can't possibly afford it without bringing income in.

I mean she had the kids tell the judge they're going to starve without the show, and perhaps there's some truth to that.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

M. (#83), the insurance alone on those 3 cars must be astronomical.
Especially for a driver with a history of speeding tickets. Paying a big monthly chunk like that with no income will make her savings slip away in no time.

Maybe we'll see pictures of a Super Bowl party at Jon's with a visiting cast member or 2 from the compound.

Layla said...

Admin said...
I mean she had the kids tell the judge they're going to starve without the show, and perhaps there's some truth to that.
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The fact is, she has only filmed 35 episodes of anything (that includes K+D8) since the fall of 2011. There have been years without any filming at all, and even though she made $40k per episode at one time, it was obvious that the show's budget decreased over time--which would mean a decrease in salary, too. The twins are in expensive colleges, the 4 remaining tups are in private school and will also be in expensive colleges soon. The interior of the house is very dated and doesn't seem to be maintained well, the acreage reportedly isn't being kept up the way it used to be, and two of her cars are about a decade old. And her legal bills have been huge! No wonder she isn't posting on IG. She has far bigger things to worry about.

That said, she may throw her last 3 fans a bone and post a picture of her store-bought snacks set out on a folding table in the basement so they can tell her how amazing it is. She probably needs some ego stroking right about now.

Clack said...

If she was smart, and she’s not, she ought to look into renting out her property to farmers. And sell all her luxury cars. It would help get by until she lands a job. Hahahha I know, that’s a silly notion.

foxy said...

During the divorce Kate was on one of the talk shows setting the record straight and said it cost her $15,000 a month to maintain that property. Even though she doesn't work, just mowing the lawn and cleaning up leaves is time consuming and you really need special equipment for that. I would not want that large of a property if I had no income and no one there to help with maintenance. She will lose that house. She won't get her money back that she has put into the deck, salt water pool, etc. She blew a wonderful career that she could have had hawking children's clothes, cooking on a budget, organizing a large family, etc. Of course she didn't do any of this in real life, so it would have been an acting part on her behalf. But she always went off script so none of that would have lasted either.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

foxy (#87), I bet when the show was in production, that $15,000 monthly maintenance expense was zero. That property was, for all intents and purposes, a soundstage. Surely her lawyer or agent or Purse Boy would've found a way to finagle that exorbitant monthly fee into each episode's budget. And I suspect that was why she kept all her eggs in TLC's basket, and was SO palpably desperate for more episodes.

Anonymous said...

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7U2QG-HsoQ/?igshid=17r049d0heysw

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Is this true she’s homeschooling the kids??? Omg that’s the LAST thing they need is to be taken out of school! It’s all about power and control and isolation. She has no business. This is just not a good situation at all.

Layla said...

If she's homeschooling the kids, it's because she can't afford private school without a show.

The ad is odd, though--it says "All 8 of her kids went to a public school". Not true, the kids were in private school. Then it says that "Later she decided to homeschool all of them". Also not true--she only has 4 of them.

However--this could explain the absence of first-day-of-school pictures, wouldn't it?

foxy said...

Jon was paying $22,000 a month in child support at the time of the divorce for quite awhile too. So she was living pretty much free of expenses for a year or two and then TLC picked up a lot of the slack. Now nothing.

If she is homeschooling the kids wow....maybe she has someone come in for that like she did when Collin and Alexis were expelled from school. I can't see her being around the kids much at all.

Nothing to worry about said...

Kate is not homeschooling her kids. That ad is for a sketchy homeschool company. They have two "ads" of icons who homeschool - Kate and Brad/ Angelina- to promote the benefits of homeschooling in general. The bullet points are clearly inaccurate for both families. No indication that either family use this company or are promoting this company. The company is just saying - hey, if Angelina home schools, you should too!

Layla said...

foxy (93)
If she's homeschooling, it's a money thing, so she wouldn't hire someone to come in and work with them. She'd expect the kids to work and learn independently, and I'm sure without any involvement on her part.

I don't think she's in great shape financially. No show, big legal bills, and now she has to provide an accounting for where the kids' money goes. Add to that the fact that she had to cough up H&C's trust funds to Jon. I definitely believe she intended to keep their money for herself. They left her, so she probably thought they didn't deserve the money.

I wonder whether there's going to be enough money for Mady & Cara to stay in those expensive colleges. Even with scholarships, I bet their expenses are in the 6 figures. Too bad there's no homeschool curriculum for college.

Sad but true said...

If she's really pulled the kids out of school, don't you think Jon would have something to say about it? Yes, maybe she can't afford to send them back to their private school right now, but public schools would have to enroll them, and I can't believe Jon would let her further isolate them without bringing it to the court. If she's got them at home, I doubt there's much "schooling" going on, she probably just puts them in front of a computer for a set number of hours per day. There is NO way she's qualified to teach them, not at this level.

If this IS true . . . poor kids.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


foxy (93)
If she's homeschooling, it's a money thing, so she wouldn't hire someone to come in and work with them. She'd expect the kids to work and learn independently, and I'm sure without any involvement on her part.

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Oh yeah, and at this age homeschooling is a VERY delicate thing, and not for somebody who doesn't know what they are doing. You could blow a kid having any chance at a good higher education if you don't understand what curriculum they should be learning.

They had a great school they were going to, I find it near impossible to believe the kids just willingly were fine with being pulled out. There's just no way you can do that to a typical freshman or sophomore age kid who has their friend and their sports and their fav teachers. Kicking and screaming they'd leave that.

I'm curious how much they paid for this endorsement, assuming they didn't, and we don't know that either. They could be stealing her likeness for this, but then, how would they know she homeschools?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Kate is not homeschooling her kids. That ad is for a sketchy homeschool company. They have two "ads" of icons who homeschool - Kate and Brad/ Angelina- to promote the benefits of homeschooling in general. The bullet points are clearly inaccurate for both families. No indication that either family use this company or are promoting this company. The company is just saying - hey, if Angelina home schools, you should too!

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I can believe it's a fake ad but there's no information Kate DOES homeschool the kids so why would they say that? It specifically mentions she went from homeschooling some to homeschooling them all. That's awfully specific.

Can she sue? Lol.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Assuming it's not endorsed by any celeb, how dumb do you have to be to sit around your conference room and say what two celebrity "icons" can we use to promote us? I know, Angelina and....KATE.

Seriously, guys.

Plus Angelina has explained why she home schools because she felt like her multicultural kids weren't going to learn much about where they were born in a regular classroom, which is true. She has the kids learning Arabic and Russia and such, I mean this is a family responsible about home schooling.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She will lose that house. She won't get her money back that she has put into the deck, salt water pool, etc. She blew a wonderful career that she could have had hawking children's clothes, cooking on a budget, organizing a large family, etc. Of course she didn't do any of this in real life, so it would have been an acting part on her behalf. But she always went off script so none of that would have lasted either.

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The house is as good as gone.

She literally could have had a social media empire by now just posting family videos 2-3 times a week. That's all she would have had to do. She blew it.

NJGal51 said...

Either they’re using her likeness without her permission or she’s promoting them for the paycheck without really homeschooling her kids. Truth in advertising?! I doubt that she’s pulled the remaining four out of school. Something like that would have leaked. Maybe ROL will pick up on this and run something.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It's actually a really big deal to use a celeb to promote a product without their permission. They'd be civilly liable and could get big time sued. Lots of celebs have done it and won big time.

She'll get a million dollars for this and keep on trucking. The turd that won't flush.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I've commented before on Valerie having a genial relationship with her ex, Eddie Van Halen. I'm sure their son Wolfgang lacked nothing materially, growing up with 2 rich and famous parents, but their decision to co-parent was probably the greatest gift they could have given him.

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You know I was thinking about rich parents in light of the shocking death of Kobe Bryant and his daughter and everyone else on board. What he gave that child and his three other children was a commitment to them, his time, his dedication, his full attention. He died trying to get to something that was all about her and her passion, her basketball game.

And when his other kids grow up that's what they will know best of him, that he was dedicated to his kids.

And also, it's apparent not for a moment did he ever make any of them feel like he wish he had had a son. He would always rebuff reporters who would ask, so you gonna try for a boy? That is the greatest gift a father can give a daughter, that YOU are my pride and joy just the way you are. It made me think of Kate favoring her girls over the boys instead of letting each child know you're amazing the way you are.

Layla said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 101
It's actually a really big deal to use a celeb to promote a product without their permission. They'd be civilly liable and could get big time sued. Lots of celebs have done it and won big time.

She'll get a million dollars for this and keep on trucking. The turd that won't flush.
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I doubt that they used her likeness without her permission. She's always looking for a way to make money without actual work. All she had to do was pose for a picture and collect a paycheck. She wouldn't care about lying in the ad--as long as there was money in it for her.

I'm thinking this is something she willingly participated in, and probably sought out. Who would ever come up with Angelina and her? Especially since it's been public knowledge for the past 10 years that she sent her kids to private school. I think it's more likely a paid endorsement, whether it's true she homeschools or not.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I doubt that they used her likeness without her permission. She's always looking for a way to make money without actual work. All she had to do was pose for a picture and collect a paycheck. She wouldn't care about lying in the ad--as long as there was money in it for her.

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I doubt it too, except for one thing, they used Angelina Jolie. No way in a million years would she allow that or consent to getting paid for that. So they've shown themselves willing to steal images for an ad and lie about the celeb endorsing them. If they used Jolie without permission, why bother to pay Kate on the up and up?

Anonymous said...

The kids are not being homeschooled. There have been several pics of both Leah and Alexis on social media in their school’s gymnasium, with other school mates. Neither girl has social media but their friends do, fyi
Gigi Be

Anonymous said...

According to this article, the Gosselin’s were being paid 250,000 per episode. And they made 7,750,000 mil total. Kate got the majority of it after the divorce while TLC paid her divorce court fees. I truly believe TLC was paying for most other court costs again Jon for years. If Kate saved that amount, it would explain why she’s been able to live in that house for as long as she has. Plus if there are any investments, stocks, etc, that we don’t know about
Gigi Be

https://heavy.com/money/2019/06/kate-gosselin-net-worth-money-house/

Layla said...

So if this company is using her likeness without her permission, is it likely she can sue and get a settlement? I'm just wondering because I just ordered some market bags from Apolis (my favorite!) and they use dozens of pictures of celebrities carrying their bags--Gisele Bundchen, Gwyneth Paltrow, Sophia Bush, etc. Could they also sue for the use of their images? Peace, Love, World used Kate and the kids in their marketing. It's all confusing to me. But I think Kate would endorse just about anything for a paycheck, whether she uses it or not. She's done it many times before--the FabFitFun boxes, that laxative tea, that Ab Champ thingy. Anything for money.

Anon (107)
I don't believe for a second that she made that much per episode. Just a year before that it was reported that she and Jon made $75,000 per episode of J&K+8, but Jon set the record straight that they only made $22,500 per episode. Plus, she did things I don't think she would have done if she had all that money. Right after the show was cancelled in 2011, she refinanced the house to a 30-year loan (and took out some cash)with a lower payment. Why would she do that if she had that much money? She could have easily made her higher payments using her interest income. And she certainly wouldn't have stooped to writing a weekly blog when she really wanted to be on TV. I'm sure she made plenty per episode, but I don't think it was that much.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The kids are not being homeschooled. There have been several pics of both Leah and Alexis on social media in their school’s gymnasium, with other school mates. Neither girl has social media but their friends do, fyi
Gigi Be

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Can we sue?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Well if it really is 7 mil, and let's say she put half of that in stocks, she actually could be sitting pretty. The stock market is through the roof, unprecedented gains, people with money in it are doubling it, tripling it. Unprecedented wealth, middle class are being rocketed into wealthy at incredible rates. Anyone not in stocks is missing out.

I just find it so hard to believe dumb as she is managing her wealth is the one thing she actually is great at. Is that possible?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


So if this company is using her likeness without her permission, is it likely she can sue and get a settlement? I'm just wondering because I just ordered some market bags from Apolis (my favorite!) and they use dozens of pictures of celebrities carrying their bags--Gisele Bundchen, Gwyneth Paltrow, Sophia Bush, etc. Could they also sue for the use of their images?


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That's different, since you can take a public picture of a celeb with the products and say look they like our products, and you don't have to pay them for that. What you can't say is they endorse us.

What you CAN'T do is mislead into thinking the celeb endorses their products, which is what they are doing. The ad looks like an endorsement.

If they had a photo of Kate from instagram she posted homeschooling her kids, they'd be well within their rights to say look Kate homeschools, as long as they don't imply "and she endorses us."

What's even worse about this is that it looks like Kate actually DOESN'T homeschool, so they can't even claim she does.

handinhand said...

I rarely post but thought this might be of interest here.
This teenager is tired of being exploited by her mommy blogging mother:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/evqd98/aita_my_mom_is_an_influencer_i_am_sick_of_being_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

JTN said...

There's no way she made $250,000 per episode. That's not to say she didn't make that for *some* episodes, but not the entire run. The first season or two was probably a much(much) lower number. When the show did well in ratings, the number increased significantly. If her lawyers knew what they were doing, they put in a gross percentage off the top for DVD sales. They also should have had a separate agreement for rerun residuals and a licensing agreement for images. My guess is most likely they have some umbrella agreement for promotional aspects for the J&K show or the K+8 show, but any other usage would have to fall under a different agreement and probably be more costly. I'm not sure how residuals work for reruns on streaming services, but she may make a small but steady income that way if people watch the shows. I don't know if the original shows run in other countries, but that would also be a separately licensing agreement and also a source of income if they are still running there.
There are some actors that make a decent amount of money on their residuals... its usually not enough to live extravagantly, but enough to live comfortably as a bit extra...
I'm actually very curious about these deals. In particular, what will happen when the children all turn 18. Do the rights of their images revert to themselves and then they will have to sign new agreements or does their mother own their childhoods in perpetuity to cash in on via residuals?

Pam said...

It is not a legitimate company probably. If it was, I would not use it. Did you see where they said learnt? That isn't right. It would be learned.

Anonymous said...

JTN @ 113 Unfortunately for Kate reality TV doesn’t work like network TV. Kate doesn’t get anything from reruns, DVD sales or anything else. TLC owns the rights to everything including the Kate + 8 brand name which is why she had to use Kate + MY 8 for her IG account.

Sue

FlimsyFlamsy said...

handinhand (#112), nice to see you!

Over the next decade, there'll be hundreds of kids grappling with the negative effects of having their private childhoods made public. And like the G kids, they'll never get that time back.

Ingrid said...

Jon is going to be on a podcast First Class Fatherhood some time soon.

Sad but true said...

JTN said... 113

You've raised some interesting questions. We've been hearing for years that reality "stars" don't have any financial return on reruns. I am not sure that is still the case in the age of rampant streaming TV. If K8+8 ends up on Netflix or Prime, you'd think they would have to pay TLC for it. In which case, maybe the paradigm HAS shifted and reality TV people do now earn something off the old stuff. Or not. In the case of K8, we all know her desperation to be on TV, it would not be surprising to hear she'd given up her right to any or all of these monetary streams just to be filmed.

I don't think I ever heard that K8 made more than $40K per episode, and that was at the height of her hauteur. I don't know where the $250K came from---maybe that's what she made for the 6 or so episodes of The Apprentice that she was on?

At the end of the day, her contracts with the production company (and TLC) always maintained exclusivity for a certain number of years after she stopped filming with them. And the only exceptions to that were Wife Swap and The Apprentice. I'm guessing Wife Swap (aired in early 2012, so filmed shortly after she was dumped by TLC) was seen as a sort of trial balloon for whether or not the show had enough viewers for them to relaunch her. And it didn't. A couple years later, I think Apprentice was okay with TLC---once she was selected for that show (which filmed in spring 2014 for airing in winter 2015), they had a ready-built platform from which to launch her return. So they filmed the tups' 10th b'day special in 2014, aired both parts quite quickly, then went on to film an 8-episode new "season" in August that started airing at about the same time her run on Apprentice did. Apparently, the network was encouraged enough by the numbers from that b'day special (after a nearly 3-year hiatus) to believe they would get a healthy boost from K8's appearance on Apprentice. (Surely this was all carefully orchestrated.) And the numbers for the first "new" season, aired in early 2015, were clearly enough for TLC to continue to buy episodes; K8's 40th b'day was coming up, then the tups' 11th b'day, maybe they were feeling nostalgic, whatever.

But IIRC, viewers fell pretty quickly when the next 8 episodes were aired, and continued on a generally downward slope for every season thereafter. Whether they were at home or on vacation, both Kate and the kids had become boring at best, obnoxious and entitled at worst. And then kids started to disappear. . . . So it ended, and K8+D8 (which K8 had been pushing since at least 2010) arrived. And it sucked, both in terms of viewership and content. End of story (?).

As far as the foreign distribution goes, I think TLC has a lock on that. They buy the content, they distribute it where they want. Discovery/TLC is an operating entity in virtually every world market, maybe they buy/sell programs to/from one another, but I doubt the "talent" has any claim on the proceeds.

Layla said...

Admin (111),
I get the difference. But, even if she tries to sue, this company doesn't look to legit. All she'd probably get is an empty settlement.

handinhand said...

Hi Flimsy (#116) thank you! I have such respect for Admin for staying the course with this site & for all the posters, especially the faithful ones, who make this such an interesting, fun & reliable place to visit. I enjoy all the content even when it goes off the beaten track. This site is a gold standard.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

“Learnt” is a red flag they’re not even in the US. They could be in Nigeria or anywhere. That’s the harder thing about suing than anything else. The company will never show for a US lawsuit and it’s not big enough to try to extradite them here and it would be an impossible hassle to sue them abroad. If it was a US company it would take a couple motions and they’ll give her a quick settlement, done and done.

Anonymous said...

According to both their FB & twitter accounts, they're located in Singapore.

https://twitter.com/intschooling

https://www.facebook.com/theinternationalschooling

On their twitter account, they're now using John Travolta for their promotion.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

According to both their FB & twitter accounts, they're located in Singapore.

https://twitter.com/intschooling

https://www.facebook.com/theinternationalschooling

On their twitter account, they're now using John Travolta for their promotion.

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Well that's that, Kate and anybody else who wants to sue them for this despicable activity are SOL.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Lord, whoever created Apolis sure knew how to appeal to the people with way too much disposable income and way too much of a need to have "designer" EVERYTHING. $58 for a freakin' (non-customized)shopping bag?!? Heaven forbid you run into your neighbor at the market and don't have the right shopping bag!


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I've never had one of those but they are extremely high quality and will last forever. I go through the cheap disposable grocery bags every year or so before I've ripped them, so I'll probably end up paying the same price or more eventually. Plastic bags are banned in my state so this is a necessity not a "want."

Their bags are also more expensive because they are an ethically minded company that pays employees favorably, is committed to creating a really ethically morally sound business in the third world, and doesn't shop around putting factories in slums with child labor. When things are cheap, it's usually because near slave labor/child labor is making it abroad.

Is it a wise purchase for most people, of course not. But if you have the money, it's a really good thing to spend it on.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It's fascinating to watch the first generation of exploited mommy blogger children grow up and realize: What the sam holy F?!!!!

And kind of funny, like geez did anyone think they would NOT react this way?? Poor kids though.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/parenting/wp/2018/03/19/its-time-to-quit-mommy-blogging-for-the-sake-of-my-children/

This Mommy blogger quit not because her twins asked her to but because she realized they weren't going to know what privacy was unless she gave them privacy.

A mom who does something in the best interest of their children regardless of how the kids feel about it, what a novel concept.

Also when you see these young kids sharing stories of their horror and discomfort at being famous blogging kids, I can quite imagine this is the same exact feelings people like Prince Harry felt as he was growing up. Only he couldn't stop it. And it stays with them throughout adulthood.

Anonymous said...


I've never had one of those but they are extremely high quality and will last forever. I go through the cheap disposable grocery bags every year or so before I've ripped them, so I'll probably end up paying the same price or more eventually. Plastic bags are banned in my state so this is a necessity not a "want."

Their bags are also more expensive because they are an ethically minded company that pays employees favorably, is committed to creating a really ethically morally sound business in the third world, and doesn't shop around putting factories in slums with child labor. When things are cheap, it's usually because near slave labor/child labor is making it abroad.

Is it a wise purchase for most people, of course not. But if you have the money, it's a really good thing to spend it
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I live in "your" state. Single use plastic bags are banned but the grocery stores found a loophole and you can get "reusable" plastic bags virtually everywhere. I'm all for reusable bags, but nobody "needs" a $58 bag. And there are plenty of places to buy a reasonably priced reusable bag made in the USA and not at a Chinese sweatshop, so spare me.

Your lecture notwithstanding, I still find the designer shopping bag for the Goop crowd ridiculous.

capecodmama said...

What I want to know with these mommy bloggers is, how are you in the moment with your child/children if all your doing is taking pictures and writing about it. They’re not interacting with them. Yea you got pictures of it but big deal. All your kid is going to remember is a camera or phone shoved in their face. I’m endlessly fascinated that other people are endlessly fascinated by this.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I live in "your" state. Single use plastic bags are banned but the grocery stores found a loophole and you can get "reusable" plastic bags virtually everywhere. I'm all for reusable bags, but nobody "needs" a $58 bag. And there are plenty of places to buy a reasonably priced reusable bag made in the USA and not at a Chinese sweatshop, so spare me.

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I didn’t say it’s a need, I said a reusable bag is a need, so if you have the money and want to support a good cause there’s nothing wrong with getting that bag.

You act like they are charging high prices just to be a snotty high end brand. What I’m saying is no, their prices are very high because you’re paying to support a good cause and what they’re doing is unfortunately very expensive. Doing the right thing often is much more expensive which is why it’s not so simple to ask the average American to always make the most ethical, environmental, socially responsible decision in purchases. If somebody wants to buy a two buck bag I don’t care and that’s what I do, but don’t be mad when someone chooses this one either.

Upstater said...

It's fascinating to watch the first generation of exploited mommy blogger children grow up and realize: What the sam holy F?!!!!

And kind of funny, like geez did anyone think they would NOT react this way?? Poor kids though.

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Yup, so agree. I cringe when I see celebrities constantly posting pics of their very young children and the 'cute' things they do. Stop. It. Their audience it a lot wider than the mommy bloggers too.......

Anonymous said...

From Dmasy.

OT -- Amazon prime has a new documentary, " Ted Bundy: Falling for a Killer".

New faces. New details. I have watched two episodes. You meet TB's baby brother. I felt so sad for him. TB's long-time girlfriend and her daughter are featured prominently and many of their "family" photos are shared. Through them, you are introduced to a different side of the famous serial killer.

Flimsy Flamsy, I promise to watch a few episodes of "I Love Lucy" to cleanse my true crime viewing habits.

foxy said...

Learnt is the acceptable word in England for learned. The homeschooling scam must have been educated in England.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I like too how many of the mommy blogger kids seemed to not even KNOW they were online until they randomly found it. That to me suggests many of these moms darn well know their kids might not like it and are purposely keeping it a secret. That suggests guilt.

Layla said...

I live in "your" state. Single use plastic bags are banned but the grocery stores found a loophole and you can get "reusable" plastic bags virtually everywhere. I'm all for reusable bags, but nobody "needs" a $58 bag. And there are plenty of places to buy a reasonably priced reusable bag made in the USA and not at a Chinese sweatshop, so spare me.
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Seriously, someone has nothing better to complain about besides a market bag? First, the regular posters here know that DH and I have been on a killer budget for a few years while we are paying for two nephews (plus a couple of our own kids) to go to college. I don't have money to burn, especially right now. But--I do invest in things that will pay off long-term. I have some of these bags that are 10 years old, and still going strong, so they are a good investment versus others that have to be replaced every couple years. We use them for everything, and as a result I often get ready to go grocery shopping and can only find 1 or 2. So I told DH that instead of flowers and candy (which will be gone in a week) for Valentine's Day, I wanted a couple more market bags. He agreed. Then I used the gift certificates that I bought from the company (30% off)just after Christmas to pay for them, so I didn't even pay full cost. Oh, and did you read anything about them? No Chinese sweatshops were involved, they have wonderful sourcing and production practices and are eco-friendly. So go find something else to rage about, little troll, because you're wrong on every point you thought you were making.

Clack said...

Ohhh thanks for that tip dmasy, I will watch that one for sure.
I just finished readings true story (I may have mentioned it?) “If you tell”. It’s about the knotek family in Washington state. I can’t shake the story, it’s so messed up, how a mother can be so cruel. It kind of reminds me of Kate, being a control freak and her brainwashing her kids. Anyway, I totally recommend that story!

If plastic bags are banned, how do you change cat litter? I use mine for litter and trash can liners. Most times I use reusable bags I get for free from my husbands company, but when I’m low on plastic I don’t bring my reusables. Guess I’ll have to figure something out, I’m sure PA will be banning them as well.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Not raging at all. Simply made a snarky comment that clearly outraged you, resulting in an extremely defensive reaction. Have a lovely day.

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A personal attack on a poster here cannot reasonable be disguised as "snark." At least own what you did.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

But--I do invest in things that will pay off long-term. I have some of these bags that are 10 years old, and still going strong, so they are a good investment versus others that have to be replaced every couple years.


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I'm a super saver here too (Dave Ramsey is my bro!) and round about ten years ago I started to realize that simply buying the cheapest product out there may not be the best financial choice. Sometimes it is, but not always.

Now I weigh a variety of factor for each purpose. What are the cheapest prices? Will that cheaper product fulfill its purpose well and be used for a long time, or is there something more expensive that is better quality and will last longer? Does the more expensive product have a lifetime warranty or other benefits? My kitchenaid mixer was expensive, even though I found a killer deal, but I use it all the time, will have it forever, and wasted money on two cheaper mixers before it that broke. So I could keep buying crappy mixers, have them break, and buy again, or I could make a one time purchase of the best product out there and have it last forever. I've certainly saved myself thousands doing this, if not more.

It is "cheaper" to eat like crap every day, it is more expensive, generally, to buy good quality fruits, vegetables, dairies and meats. Except when it comes time for the medical bills. Then those that put garbage in their body their whole life pay much more in the end for it.

Life is complicated, dear anonymous. Issues are not black and white. And neither is an item's price.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

No Chinese sweatshops were involved, they have wonderful sourcing and production practices and are eco-friendly

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Anonymous had a knee jerk reaction and started hating on the rich because her lot hates the rich as a rule, and can't possibly conceptualize that an expensive purchase made by someone who can afford it is actually helping the poor and building a better business world that is inclusive of ALL, fair, ethical, and responsible. They can't think that complicated, too much for them.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


If plastic bags are banned, how do you change cat litter? I use mine for litter and trash can liners


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Very carefully! Lol. No, it took some getting used to for those of us who have daily uses for those bags. No more lining little garbage cans with the bags, no more picking up dog poo with them. I buy my dog poo bags, and I buy small garbage bags now. This hurts the poor and middle class they so claim to love and want to protect, because now we've got a line item on our monthly bill for 5 bucks, 10, more depending on your family, that we never had before. Chip, chip, chipping away at our disposable income.

Also the overwhelming majority of garbage in our oceans comes from abroad and has absolutely nothing to do with the overwhelmingly responsible, green and clean Californians, but the people who banned plastic bags here aren't able to think very nuanced about complex issues.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

And I am saying you are not correct, as there are plenty of fair trade options that do no come close to this price point.

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Without looking at their financials, I'm not sure you can say their price point is ridiculous. It may not be ridiculous it all given everything they are doing in Bangladesh. It may be completely appropriate and fair given what they have set up there. It's expensive to be clean, green, and responsible, something your lot either doesn't want to believe or deliberately ignores.

If you're not looking for a debate, don't say things like that.

Layla said...


And I am saying you are not correct, as there are plenty of fair trade options that do no come close to this price point.
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Using my discounted gift certificates, I paid around $40 per bag. I know these bags will last for decades. After 10 years, it will come out to about $4 per year (and I know they'll last much, much longer than that). I won't have to add to any landfills by throwing out any worn-out bags. And I'm a big fan of their ethics. So I feel just fine about my purchases. If DH had gotten me the usual flowers and candy, they would have cost just as much, and been gone in a matter of days. I'd rather spend the money on something I need, that I can feel good about, and that I can keep and use for many, many years to come. I mentioned the name because I know some posters here are also concerned about the environment, fair labor practices, and solid products that will be cost effective in the long run.

Too bad, little troll, I'm not outraged at all. I'm actually very happy with my purchase. A word of advice-- don't go pricing things someone else buys if it's going to upset you so much.

Anonymous said...

From Dmasy --

Layla, I admire you. Several reasons. What you are doing for your nephews, that you would choose a practical Valentine gift, your thoughtful posts here, that you do cost analysis on a product along with factoring in the practices of the company and (last but not least) that you hold your own with our resident antagonist.

Have a lovely weekend.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Using my discounted gift certificates, I paid around $40 per bag. I know these bags will last for decades. After 10 years, it will come out to about $4 per year (and I know they'll last much, much longer than that). I won't have to add to any landfills by throwing out any worn-out bags. And I'm a big fan of their ethics. So I feel just fine about my purchases


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That's another thing our troll's lot doesn't factor in when they knee jerk react to hating on "the rich" or anyone who dares to spend money. That the less times you have to purchase an item over the course of your lifetime, the less garbage you throw out.

I could buy one nice, high quality Restoration Hardware bed and use it my whole life. Or three to four or more cheaper beds that eventually scratch and scuff and break down.

Which generates more garbage, and eventually more money down the drain?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Learnt is the acceptable word in England for learned. The homeschooling scam must have been educated in England.

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That or he was simply taught by the British or someone who learned British English. Most people in Asia seem to be taught British English so you'll see British words popping up like that even if they have never set foot on the island.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

OT -- Amazon prime has a new documentary, " Ted Bundy: Falling for a Killer".

New faces. New details. I have watched two episodes. You meet TB's baby brother. I felt so sad for him. TB's long-time girlfriend and her daughter are featured prominently and many of their "family" photos are shared. Through them, you are introduced to a different side of the famous serial killer.

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Be still my heart.

Layla said...

Okay, enough talk about market bags! I never thought someone would have such a fit about them, but our troll must be bored. And I still recommend the ones I posted about.

Anyway, I started watching a new show on Netflix called The Stranger, and it's pretty good so far. I'm on the second episode. Is anyone else watching it? The boys are all out tonight, and I scored a bag of Squashies candy out of a gift box sent by our British family members. Tonight
is going to be a binge night at my house!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Dmasy and Admin, to repent for your murder-lovin' ways, I hereby order you to watch 5 "I Love Lucy" episodes each. If this isn't possible, you must say 10 Hail Lucys and 10 Hail Ethels. Go in peace.

Sandylove said...

Sad but true,

They actually filmed Wife Swap in late 2012 and not 2011 and it aired in Feb 2013. Not a big deal but just thought I'd give you correct info. =)

Layla said...

Dmasy (142)
Thank you!

Anonymous said...

I know others said enough about market bags. I just wanted to say how my town handled it. In April, the county passed a ban on single use plastic bags. You can buy a paper bag for $0.05 at the register. My town applied for and got a grant to give people reusable bags. My town started handing out reusable bags for free at the town hall a few months before the ban. The farmers market passed them out for a few weeks before the ban. There were many times where every citizen could go pick up a few for free. People on SNAP and similar programs can use the paper bags without having to pay. Plastic bags for items like produce are not part of the ban. Many people now use their old produce bags for things like dog poop and cat litter. Most of us still have a large stock pile of plastic grocery bags do we don't know how it will ultimately impact our consumption.

I have mixed feelings about the ban. I think it can do good but it's limited. It forces people to think about what they can carry in their arms vs using a plastic bag to carry two items. It's like meat substitutes. Overall, it makes people feel better about their contribution to global pollution without actually taking care of the source of pollution.

Andrea

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I have mixed feelings about the ban. I think it can do good but it's limited. It forces people to think about what they can carry in their arms vs using a plastic bag to carry two items. It's like meat substitutes. Overall, it makes people feel better about their contribution to global pollution without actually taking care of the source of pollution.

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What your town did to ensure this policy didn't end up hurting the poor is commendable and I love it. Too bad few others thought of the poor when they put this policy in place. You are right, the plastic bag ban solves very little of the greater problem. While of course every little bit helps, this really is a LITTLE bit, plastic bags used by Americans count for such a minuscule amount of the garbage problem that spending inordinate amounts of time, effort, money, and legislation on it seems like a poor and misguided use of such things. It's a bit like only treating the tumor in your little toe when you've got one in your brain.

The straw ban is another one. Makes people feel good but does little to nothing to address pollution. And someone was actually killed recently by a metal straw when she tripped and it impaled her.

I'm not exactly against these policies since I'm very much in support of reducing waste and protecting the environment. But I do worry that people think they can put in place a couple bans here, a couple there on a couple common items that end up in landfills, brush off their hands and call it a day. One thing this doesn't do is get us even a hair closer to solving the bigger problem, and that's concerning.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Yup, so agree. I cringe when I see celebrities constantly posting pics of their very young children and the 'cute' things they do. Stop. It. Their audience it a lot wider than the mommy bloggers too.......


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I suspect Gwyneth Paltrow's daughter was NOT joking when she said I DID NOT TELL YOU YOU COULD POST THIS PHOTO OF ME. Her kids haven't shown up on her instagram since last Mother's Day, and I suspect that last post was a bribe on the order of: What do you want for mother's day? "Let me post a pic of you!"

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


WTH? Does no one recycle here? People actually THROW their plastic into landfills? Lazy. There are recycling depots everywhere. Find one. Sheesh. what a world.

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My favorite is environmentalists who have no idea what they are talking about. My favorite!

While I still do it, well, because, recycling as a big scam, almost a lie. Major outlets have reported on this over the past couple years, including the LA Times. We were sending all our recyclables to China but turns out they're worth nothing anymore and they are turning us away. About 90% of recycled materials now ends up in landfills. Towns and cities across the country are suspending recycling programs because they actually have a heart and don't want to make their poor and lower middle class residents pay more to support an increasingly costly industry. I can't believe you didn't hear this, you being so environmentally minded and all. The more you know.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/03/china-has-stopped-accepting-our-trash/584131/

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Dmasy and Admin, to repent for your murder-lovin' ways, I hereby order you to watch 5 "I Love Lucy" episodes each. If this isn't possible, you must say 10 Hail Lucys and 10 Hail Ethels. Go in peace.


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All that sugar might ferment in my blood!

Cookie said...

New interview with Jon on First Class Fatherhood podcast on Monday.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B79N80vJA9s/?igshid=1ryb1kntwqjm3

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Thanks Cookie I have a new post ready to go for that when it airs

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

What I want to know with these mommy bloggers is, how are you in the moment with your child/children if all your doing is taking pictures and writing about it. They’re not interacting with them. Yea you got pictures of it but big deal. All your kid is going to remember is a camera or phone shoved in their face. I’m endlessly fascinated that other people are endlessly fascinated by this.

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Not only that but I bet even if they're not taking photos or writing right then, they're THINKING about what photo they will take and what post to write. You can see how this quickly can take over their lives.

I've actually always wondered quite a bit about Pioneer Woman's kids. Lovely as the whole family is, she has to have spent the majority of their childhoods posting about them or the family or making a TV show. It had to have taken her out of commission a lot. And the kids MUST wonder at times if they really want to be part of it. One of the girls I guess got a public intoxication arrest in college, just a one-off stupid college thing that happens to lots of kids who are being dumb, but it made news, and it made me wonder how happy she was about her childhood after that humiliation. Then she was sent to camp for trouble teens. She was all happy happy chirpy about it on social media, but one wonders.

Lorrie said...

Not sure if someone already mentioned it, but Jon posted a picture of him & Hannah (#girldad). Both look so proud & happy!

Layla said...

The straw ban is another one. Makes people feel good but does little to nothing to address pollution. And someone was actually killed recently by a metal straw when she tripped and it impaled her.
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I bought a bunch of metal straws years ago so that we wouldn't end up using the plastic kind, and I am not a fan! If your drink is really cold, the straw gets really cold, too. That's something that took some getting used to for me because I have sensitive teeth, and that freezing-cold straw touching the teeth at the front of my mouth was painful. I never noticed how many times the straw actually touches my teeth until I made the switch. And if you have a very hot beverage, the straw gets very hot, too. So--even though it seems like a great idea to substitute, it takes some time to get used to them.

I finished watching The Stranger last night (and finished the whole bag of Squashies), and it wasn't bad. There were too many sub-plots for my liking, but overall it was interesting.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


That same policy exists in "your" state. Yes, the entire state, not a town by town thing.

The more you know...

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No, what happened was poor people now have to PURCHASE their plastic bags, and they have, in droves:

So says a study from the University of Sydney economist Rebecca Taylor. She looked at retail scanner data on the purchase of garbage bags in cities before and after they implemented their bag bans. She found that while plastic bag bans got rid of their target, they did not eliminate people's need for plastic bags in general: They still needed something to line their garbage cans or pick up after their pets. Prior to bag bans, this could mean just reusing the bags you carried your groceries home in. After the bans, folks turned to purchasing garbage bags, which are much more plastic-intensive.

They bought lot of them. Taylor's study found that after the imposition of a bag ban, sales of small garbage bags (defined as 4-gallon-sized bags) increased by a full 120 percent, medium garbage bags (8 gallons) by 64 percent, and tall bags (13 gallons) by 6 percent.

But Taylor's study also notes that many non-plastic replacements for traditional plastic grocery bags can in fact be far worse when considering their impact on climate change. "To have the same global warming potential as a traditional plastic carryout bag with zero secondary use, a paper carryout bag would need to be used 3 times, a non-woven polypropylene (PP) reusable bag would need to be used 11 times, and a cotton reusable bag would need to be used 131 times," she writes.

All prohibitions have unintended consequences, and that includes prohibiting plastic products.

https://reason.com/2019/04/11/california-plastic-bag-bans-spur-120-per/

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

bought a bunch of metal straws years ago so that we wouldn't end up using the plastic kind, and I am not a fan! If your drink is really cold, the straw gets really cold, too. That's something that took some getting used to for me because I have sensitive teeth, and that freezing-cold straw touching the teeth at the front of my mouth was painful. I never noticed how many times the straw actually touches my teeth until I made the switch. And if you have a very hot beverage, the straw gets very hot, too. So--even though it seems like a great idea to substitute, it takes some time to get used to them.

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A huge problem with reusable straws is also cleanliness. It is VERY hard to clean and sanitize such a small cylinder. Especially with children and the elderly, giving somebody food poisoning because of old food particles in a straw can lead to serious illness or death.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Not sure if someone already mentioned it, but Jon posted a picture of him & Hannah (#girldad). Both look so proud & happy!

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Sea Gordon loved the photo and commented "aww." Collin then liked Sea Gordon's comment. :)

SWEET COLLIN.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I finally watched Don't F&CK with Cats. I salute those incredible internet sleuths. Good job, gumshoes!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

FACT: SNAP and WIC recipients do not have to pay for bags at the market, your false claim to the contrary notwithstanding. Why must you constantly lie? I accurately stated what the policy is in California. It's not open to dispute. The policy exists.

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SNAP, such a gentle name. Why not call it what it is? You mean welfare? You mean food stamps? And you're misstating the state of the law. The law is a store can voluntarily choose not to charge a SNAP customer, but it's voluntary. If they choose not to, they have to pay for the bag, and guess what, they CAN'T USE FOOD STAMPS to pay for it! How do you like that?

Those on food stamps MIGHT not have to pay, but those on food stamps are very poor, sometimes only requiring an income of 2,082 a month. What about the person who makes 2,092 a month? Which is barely enough to eat in a place like San Francisco or Los Angeles.

Any which way you slice it this ban hurts the poor and middle class the most, and is yet another government policy from those that claim to support those folks that in fact gravely hurts them. Just acknowledge it hurts them in the name of the environment, which happens time and time again, we all know this happens and we should all at the very least be able to admit it.

foxy said...

Jon and Hannah look so happy in the picture that was posted. Amazing he has custody of the golden child, her choice, and the rejected child, also his choice, once he was found. They are really having such a nice life.

Lynn W. said...

Could we please have a link to Jon & Hannah's photo for those of us who don't use Instagram? Many thanks

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Perhaps, you should tell that to your idol, Donald Trump, when he starts raging about LED light bulbs. They may cost more when originally purchased but they last longer than incandescent bulbs.

Perhaps, you should tell that to your idol, Donald Trump, when he starts raging about LED light bulbs. They may cost more when originally purchased but they last longer than incandescent bulbs.

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Yep, at least somebody is looking out for the poor here when doing a cost/benefit analysis:

"DOE’s analysis determined that more stringent standards for GSILs [general service incandescent lamps] would have increased the price of those light bulbs by 300 percent. This increase is not economically justified because the bulbs do not last long enough for the energy savings to surpass the higher upfront price,"

Formerly Duped said...

Just adding note to the plastic bag situation debate...I always save the plastic liners from online orders and the bags for produce or bakery goods at the grocery store as well as 'gently used' ziplock bags...use them for dog poop or emptying waste bins around the house or garbage in general

Layla said...

Oh my, our little troll is on quite a rampage lately. I'm guessing it's one of those misguided souls who used to live on Kate's IG, attacking anyone who posted anything negative. Now that Kate is ignoring her supporters, they have to go somewhere else to find people to attack. Poor thing, imagine devoting so much time to a former pseudo-celeb who then makes it clear she couldn't care less about you or anyone else.

Well, troll, if you're looking for someone to blame for Kate's string of recent failures, you're looking in the wrong place. Kate herself has said time and again that her "haters" have no effect on her life. It's not our fault TLC cut her loose. That is 100% her own fault. It's also not our fault that she's ignoring you. We said from the beginning that Kate has no personal interest in her supporters. Too bad it took so long for you to figure that out.

So, you can take out your frustrations on us, but it's not going to help you. Kate will continue to ignore you until she needs her ego stroked. Then she'll throw you a bone and give you a moment of her time but no more. But you'll know it's not because she cares about you. She doesn't, not even one tiny bit. And you know it. The sooner you learn to accept that, the better.

Layla said...

I just read an article about how celebs can sign with endorsement companies, which drum up opportunities for them to make money by endorsing products on social media. I always wondered how Kate got the opportunity to endorse things (Bella Bars, Coffee Mate, those FabFitFun boxes, the laxative tea, AbChamp). Did they really go looking for her, or did someone else come to them? As lazy as she is, it was a good bet that someone else lined those up for her. You learn something new every day!

Formerly Duped said...

But I think Kate made her own tip list about if have a pool swim in it, or if you have a leather couch, sit on it, and buy 3 cars to save on gas...lol

Layla said...

Formerly Duped said... 171
But I think Kate made her own tip list about if have a pool swim in it, or if you have a leather couch, sit on it, and buy 3 cars to save on gas...lol
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Haha, she was trying SO hard to pretend that she doesn't know how mediocre people actually live. But we all know that she grew working-class, so her fakery fell on deaf ears.
Her "tips" should have looked more like this:
1. Go to nursing school so you can marry a rich doctor and never work again. If that doesn't work for you, marry the son of a wealthy dentist and milk his father for every cent you can get out of him.
2. Order fertility drugs from Canada and engineer a HOM pregnancy. If it doesn't work the first time, don't give up! Keep trying until you get an acceptable number of babies. Then start marketing then before they're even born.
3. Once you find some gullible network to sign you on for a show, work those babies to the point of exhaustion so they can pay for the lifestyle you want. Remember, you're never too young to pay Mommy's bills!
4. Once the kids are old enough to realize their lifestyle is weird, lie to them to keep them working. Tell them they'll lose their house and have to leave their school if they don't work. Then go to the spa for a "me day" to de-stress from the strain of actually talking to your kids.
5. If you end up getting divorced, put as much of the money as possible into a trust fund for the kids. Get your network to sue the ex so he's broke, and then use the kids' trust funds to pay for your lifestyle. Oh, and while you're pulling that money out of the marital accounts, don't forget to take $100,000 in cash for yourself. If you get caught, claim it's for groceries for the kids.
6. If the kids are sick, tired, or in pain, that's good TV! If the cameras aren't catching the kids vomiting, make sure you yell really loudly and point out the sick/tired/vomiting/in pain child. If any of the kids get in the way of your master plan, institutionalize them. If any want to go live with Daddy, tell the police that Daddy has an inappropriate relation ship with that child. Tell them Daddy is a drug dealer. Remember, each child you keep means more money in your pocket.
7. If you lose custody of a child to Daddy, pretend for the cameras that you allowed that child to go. That way you look like such a loving Mommy and the cameras will keep rolling.
8. If the courts say that you can't film the kids, ignore them. Remember, "no" never means "no" to you. And if you do get caught filming them and then get fired, disappear completely. It was a good run, and you're not about to face the music for the damage you have done. You've never taken responsibility for your actions, and you're not about to start now.

Anonymous said...

Lynn W-# 166

Here you Go!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/jon-gosselin-shares-pic-with-daughter-for-kobe-bryant-girldad-tribute/amp/

Gigi be

Anonymous said...

Doesn’t look like Kate’s going to post pics of her annual lame Super Bowl party. The remaining 4 probably are left to fend for themselves. If those kids aren’t making her money, she could care less. Hopefully they take note from the twins and involve themselves with a school activities and friends
-Gigi Be

Lynn W. said...

Thank you very much, Gigi Be. It's a nice, short article and I love the photo.

JR said...

@172... OMFG that was so spot on ... hilarious 😂😂

Anonymous said...

Layla, perfection! Thank you for doing that for us!

M.

Formerly Duped said...

Layla, terrific post and true to Kate's actions.

Haven't been posting much on the board for a while except to scroll past OT- I'm all for OT posts but if they aren't things I want to comment on, I don't.

How is little Sully?

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