If you're wondering why there were about 30 new episodes of this God forsaken mess that aired long after "The Finale" aired, well, you should be. As you may recall from long, long ago, this show really did have a pretty big cancellation announcement six years ago, with tears and regrets and fans in a tizzy. It was 2011, just a hair before television really started to change, for the better (for the most part). There are a lot more platforms to get a series on television these days, and television has been expanding, giving viewers a lot more choices and niche genres. Shows regular networks never would have taken a chance on have thrived on services like Netflix, Amazon Prime or Hulu. This expansion has left a lot more room for shows to get their reunion episodes, or for many, a total revival.
Back in the day, if your series were cancelled, you really were cancelled. You would never be heard from again other than the $9.99 DVD bin at the grocery store. A few very good series got a reunion episode or two, or even a movie, but that was rare.
Some of these revived shows they've put together recently are simply charming and a wonderful throwback, like Full House or Gilmore Girls. Others should never have been messed with, like Boy Meets World and Will and Grace. Kate got her revival too, starting back up again in 2014 to the present, and it never should have happened. The kids were older and more outspoken and disgruntled, and as we now know during much of this time, Collin was having such serious issues he is no longer living in the family home. The family should never have gone back on T.V. post-2011, but here we are.
An unintended consequence of this sea change is that revived shows like Kate Plus 8 seem to be surviving on much lower ratings than they ever could before, and new episodes are being ordered, albeit on obviously lower budgets, when they never would have been before. Voting with your remote doesn't seem to make much of a difference these days, with such low audiences. So in sum, the changing T.V. landscape is great for most shows, but breathes life into a few that shouldn't be here, with little to no way for viewers to get them off their screens.
Another interesting thing that seems to have happened is networks don't seem to be making grand cancellation announcements anymore, not usually anyway. Probably because they want to leave a door open. I'm not even really sure if Kate Plus 8 got the axe again this year; TLC was never really clear. For those whose incomes depend on their series, not just the talent but the local production companies, such treatment is rather cold, but as we learned now more than ever recently, Hollywood is more self-interested and devoid of any morals or accountability than we ever imagined.
Predictably, this show is going to be full of old clips we've seen before, some many times before. But they also do an unusual format for this show where some of the major players sit down for a one-on-one interview, like Steve, Ashley, and Jamie, who remarks that she always tells Kate she's not Angelina Jolie. Baw, she's pretty good sometimes.
Interestedly enough, old clips of Jon are shown, which invokes legal implications, like possibly having to pay him again. I wonder how that all shook out and whether he noticed and demanded his check.
This aired just after the infamous RV episodes, so we're going to rehash all the drama of those. You can review my recaps here and here if you're interested in the finer details, but the short story is Kate actually thinks she did everything on the RV trip and was pleasant at it too, and that was really f-ing obnoxious to those who actually were doing it all and exhausted, like Ashley and Jamie.
Kate is actually blaming her nasty troll-like behavior on that trip on stress and the hot weather. Classic not taking responsibility for her role as chief instigator.
I like how the Kiwis say tense. Sounds like "teens."
This segment goes on and on.
Jamie I think at her heart is a good person with a good head on her shoulders, despite her misguided friendship with Kate. Jamie says fine blame it on stress, but the reality is that is no excuse to treat the people who love you and support you the most poorly. Well, right! Also, I really like how the producers obviously interviewed Kate first, then went tattle-taling to everyone else about what she said to see what they would say. Heh!
This reminds me of a scene in the upcoming season of The Crown, which has had a great opportunity to show itself off thanks to the changing landscape of TV I was just talking about. It is one of the best series I've ever seen, a slow but delicious plod month by month through Queen Elizabeth II's life starting at age 20. (It will go on many seasons as long as it continues to do well. We're only up to her early 30's now.) In it Queen Elizabeth appears to be irritated by everything going to shit around her--the prime minister resigning, her sister on all the front pages of the tabloids, her mother always on her case. All of this makes her job harder. And Phillip, her husband, stares her down and asks her if it occurs to her that she has people in her life who are there for her no matter what.
"If only," Elizabeth replies.
I think Elizabeth has grown tremendously as she's aged, and learned a lot in particular since Diana's death. She wouldn't say something like that now, but I think that incapsulates her when she was younger. And much like Kate, who is also an "if only" person despite being surrounded by those who love her unequivocally, E-2 struggled to grasp and respond to normal love and friendships. It was all duty, country, and preservation of the crown.
The only thing I can say to the lovely Ashley is just get out. This is a toxic relationship no matter how much you love the children and it's never going to change.
Kate is truly, truly a cold woman. When viewing Ashley's outburst on the RV trip afterward, she calls Ashley "over-dramatic." She's outrageous. Can't she just keep that comment to herself and just try to mend things with a nanny that the children love? So unbelievably selfish. She fits right into the industry she so wants to be a part of.
Ha, Ashley says she regrets not saying more on that trip. Good for her.
Steve admits that he too had thought about leaving but he committed to this trip. So noble. Jamie kind of considered it but didn't want to hurt any of the kids including her own so she stuck it out. That's just maturity is all.
Kate says funny enough she and Ashley have never even had a small disagreement before. That's because, doofus, someone like Ashley puts the kids first and hasn't said how she really felt all this time. That was good for the kids, but not for Ashley. It's clear her outburst had been building for years.
It's hard to tell whether they're really going to patch things up or not but Ashley said they did have small talk conversations a few times since and Kate has said she is welcome anytime. Well Kate isn't about to let a lackey go just like that no matter how big the fight was.
Benevolent Kate says she still loves Ashley, Ashley can do no wrong, and it's up to Ashley whether she would like to keep on loving them in return or not. It's unbelievable how insane Kate is. Why can't she understand this has nothing to do with Ashley's love for the children, and everything to do with a young woman finally finding her voice and developing her own personal boundaries? Ashley's maybe 23, 24 here, I don't know. Point being she's around the age where a young person is really delving deep into their feelings and getting to know who they are and what they really want out of relationships even platonic ones. This is the age where you might decide to leave an old friend from high school behind because they've become an alcoholic, finally estrange a parent who is cruel and abusive, and around the time when many people say they had their first "real" relationship with a boyfriend or girlfriend. But love is not something you can just shut off like a faucet. Even if Ashley decides she can no longer be around the family, I can promise you she will always love the children. When love becomes too much to bear because either the person you love or someone around who you love is making you miserable, everyone must eventually make a tough choice.
That wonderful University of Phoenix ad plays again. "What if I swore I'd succeed so you could wake up one day with the choice to be anything you wanted?" Bawling! Bet that hard-working grandma never spent one second wallowing about some sexist pig in the office and posting trite "#Metoo"'s on instagram, and instead just told him to buzz off and then got on with it.
At the time they interviewed the kids for this last episode, no one knew this show was ever coming back. An off camera producer asks some of the sextuplets how they feel about the show ending. The kids look confused by this question. They blurt out canned answers like it's sad, but tellingly, are unable to articulate what about this that is so sad. In fact Alexis says she's sad because she's sad. Wow, the kid doesn't understand this, like, at all! I think they are either so used to this show they don't even realize what it means for it to be over, or if they do this means really nothing to them. But I don't believe they truly feel sad about this, so this idea the show must carry on because the kids need it, as Kate has suggested, is nonsense.
Kate says they owed viewers a last episode that tied everything up. I don't know what that means, tying up your real life as if there's loose plot lines that still need to be resolved like it's the The Walking Dead. But they don't owe the creepy fans anything, and that's step one of her problem.
Kate actually doesn't look sad to me either, even though she says she is. I can literally see the creaky ole botoxed wheels turning, I think she has something in mind that will bring in lots of money after this is over. Most likely a spinoff all about her, maybe a stint as a host on a talk show, some kind of wildly successful product line. She did try things like this after the show was cancelled and absolutely nothing panned out, but point being I think she thought at the time this was the start of her next even better career where she can finally ditch these kids. I swear to God, there is a glimmer of excitement in her eyes she can finally move on to other things.
Weird spa music is playing in the background. I want someone to crack my shoulders!
They show a little bit of Jon and Kate recording the opening segment from the original show, which I actually find rather interesting, because if anything it shows that they are doing what looks like dozens of takes. Jen is there, being a very patient and supportive producer. When they let us in to little behind the scenes moments like this, it becomes all the clearer how heavily produced this show was no matter how much Kate has tried to deny it. It is no wonder a boy with special needs could not thrive to his fullest potential under such conditions.
Kate gives yet another explanation for why they're on T.V. and I swear I've never heard this one before. They owe it to the little old grandmas who sent them 10 bucks here and there. Kate needs to let them know they're doing okay. Huh? Who old ladies what? And why can't you pick up the phone and call your supporters and let them know how you're doing, or get everyone's addresses and send a stupid Christmas letter update every year with a photo? How do you even know these old ladies have cable? I wonder if she's updated the little old grandmas on Collin. He's not doing well, ladies.
Oh, burn, Jamie says the person she met at Reading hospital (I didn't know they met at Reading hospital, was that where the multiples support group was?) was kinder and gentler. Now Kate is all about TV, how skinny she is and what she's wearing. I really can't believe Jamie is saying this! This is the juicy shit you say on secret video tapes to your biographer not to be played for forty years. What's next, Jamie hates Martin Luther King, too? Jamie must have been really upset about the RV trip to just blurt all this out like this. Wow.
Kate says about a million times there's no going back from this. Oh, that's just silly. Americans are the most fickle audiences ever and with rare exception, quickly forget about shows they watched and has-been celebs they were fans of. Try it. Name a T.V. show that was cancelled two years ago and two of its stars. Bet you have to think long and hard, because viewers just forget that stuff and move on to the next show.
A bunch of creepy footage of paparazzi.
I don't remember this story at all, Kate says they did a T.V. spot and a man was hanging around them and putting the kids in his lap. What?! Who was this creep, how did this happen, and why didn't they call security or even the police? Surely even small TV stations have at least one security guard. And shouldn't this have been a huge, huge red flag to you this industry is very dangerous for children? So many questions, no logical answers. After that Kate knew she needed a booby-guard.
Lol, I love when these talking heads unintentionally insult Kate. Steve says he quickly realized after booby-guarding for Kate there was some notoriety here. Heh.
Jon was always ready to quit the show, says Kate. I think that is a pretty big revelation, because a lot of fans have implied that he up and quit just to spite Kate during the divorce. In fact, Kate has unintentionally admitted, quitting had been brewing for him and was no sudden matter or bore any connection to trying to slam her in the divorce.
What's an episode without Kate getting a chance to slam her parents again? Kate rarely if ever left the state growing up and she wanted something different for her kids. Wouldn't you remember whether you left the state or not growing up? And boo-freaking hoo you never went anywhere. It's not like Pennsylvania is 100 square miles. It's a huge beautiful state, with endless things to see and do. You could spend a decade there and never even get close to seeing everything. Also, parents do not owe children trips out of the state. The bigger question is did her parents do the best they could with what they had? Did they do their best to teach their children good values? Did they enrich their minds with good schooling, plenty of books and music? Did they teach and show them love?
Her dad is or was a pastor. No matter what your beliefs are, religious leaders are usually a noble profession and most are very good men and women who often do a whole lot of schooling to not get paid very much. I've never heard one ounce of gratitude for the role he has played in her community. If her dad is like most pastors, he's probably sat up with a family for 18 hours while their toddler gets heart surgery, held the hand of a grandmother dying of cancer and read her scripture, coordinated help for a family who lost everything in a house fire. You're a first responder to the spiritual side of people, and on call all day and night. Nothing, nothing at all ever from Kate about admiration for this?
I think her parents just popped a lemon with this one, because from the bits and pieces we've seen of some of her other siblings, they seem like decent people. I highly doubt her parents were sitting on a pile of money refusing to spend it on the trip Kate wanted to Florida out of spite. Kate is lucky she had a roof over her head, a full belly, great schools and sports, the best medical care around, good friends and a nice safe small town to grow up in. Some families would kill for such a cookie-cutter place to grow up. What an ungrateful waste of space.
Kate said she thought of the kids twenty years from now and what they would think of her decisions, and that influences her choices. How dare she speak for what her kids will think about their lives 20 years from now and how dare she assume her 30-year-old children will be just fine with her decisions just because she thought of what they would think in advance. And how convenient for her that she insists the decisions she makes just happen to be the ones a 30-year-old Gosselin kid would fully support, given that there is no 30-year-old kid yet to consult. What a nut job! It's really not her place to speculate how the children will feel and it's insulting. And if you're paying attention, the narrative has changed again. The show was supposed to be for the little old ladies. Now I think she's realized that answer is stupid, and so she's moved the goal posts to say that if she doesn't do the show her kids will have a piddly growing up existence like she did and because she resents it she's sure they would too. What an assumer and an ass-hat. She needs to read Christopher Robin Milne's books about being haplessly thrust into fame when he was in grade school. All he wanted, all he wanted in the whole world, is to just be a normal boy no kid knows, and get his parents back, his toys back, and his damn woods back. One could just as easily assume a Gosselin kid might grow up and all they want in the world was to have a normal childhood to look back on. Why not assume that just as easily?
Kate says the show has been a great opportunity to "travel" the kids. Travel them? How about, it was a great opportunity for the kids to travel? Awkward phrasing, she makes it sound like the kids are objects, which she's done on several occasions, so this is not a fluke.
Point being, no one knows how these kids will eventually feel about their childhoods, not us, not even their mother. So then why risk it? Why not just give them a normal childhood so you'll never have to worry that they might not eventually like their extremely abnormal one? Selfishness and greed on her part is the answer to this rhetorical question. The only sad thing is she can't admit she exploited the kids for her not for them, and that the grown children may have the biggest problem with of all.
Kate pats herself on the back for about five minutes about how she did it all by her lonesome when the kids were little, again leaving out Jon and the helpers.
People told her they would have liked to just stand at their window and look in. What creepy person said this and was her name Gladys?
One of the few things Kate says that is correct is that over time viewers fell in love with the kids. I think that's true for most fans and non-fans alike. We had some buy in with these kids, we like them even though they have faults, some more than others, and the faults they do have we understand are directly related to an exploited childhood and terrible parenting and therefore forgivable. So, she understands viewers genuinely have a stake here. But doesn't seem to understand much else. The fact that Collin is just gone, poof, for so long, is truly upsetting to fans and non-fans alike, and that's directly related to the years viewers spent watching him grow up and giving a tiny piece of the T.V. portion of our hearts to him. The little bones she throws out there about him are toying, manipulative behavior, like a cat with a mouse, and that's really screwed up.
Kate says she and Jon had vastly different views on how they see the world, which is why the show was interesting. That's true. Here's a little hint, if you and your boyfriend or fiance can't agree on anything, your marriage is very, very unlikely to work. Frankly that goes for Jon too. He should have called this off or spent longer dating her before putting a ring on it. He was only 22, he could have waited another decade to make sure this was right. Now he's paying. Makes for good T.V., but a bad marriage.
Steve says he thinks couples would watch this show and say, thank God I'm not as useless as that. Implying Jon?? Useless? Oh my God! What a jerkwad! Was he paying attention at all when he watched these episodes? Jon did it all including working and caring for the kids and Kate accepted coffee delivered to her bedside when she woke up, then put the kids behind bars all day and gave orders and freaked out about $10 off coupons. No, couples were saying thank God we respect and appreciate each other like she doesn't and are good to our children.
Kate admits after a producer comes up with the idea that maybe the kids like watching the old episodes to see her and Jon together. Well, that's a rather sad though probably true thought and never anything Kate would have come to on her own because she has no feelings.
Apparently Kate's kids are like no other kids in the world and can remember all these things they did as if they were 10, not toddlers, says Kate. Well, we've since learned that's a load of malarky. In the recent trivia episode the kids really struggled to remember much about the show at all. So doing this for the trips was mostly pointless for them. What else ya got?
Lol, Kate is blaming her totally unacceptable behavior on editing. She also blames her nastiness on, get a load of this, the kids asking too many questions of her. She actually says this. She's too much. Poor Kate, no other mother has ever had to deal with why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why. Well maybe they have, but I bet you not times six! So there!
Mady is parroting Kate's reasons for what she liked the most about the show. We never had time to make our own home videos, Mady echoes. Well, we know that is malarky too, since at Mady's 16th birthday, Kate herself admitted that she was filming every day once the twins were born, and even put together a very long compilation for their birthday. I'm sure there was less time for that once 6 babies were here, but we still saw home videos of them she or Jon took, and surely just whipping out a little camcorder and taping a few moments is far less time consuming than organizing the taping over several days with an entire camera crew. Come on!
She talks about the kids' favorite things and Collin's is the chickens. Aw. She got rid of that little boy and got rid of his favorite things next. Wth, lady!
Alexis has absolutely the most darling Anna Wintour haircut. I never remember seeing that before or since but it's nice to see her have some individually for once.
She's defending cupcake gate again. Man, that incident really bothers her the most of all huh? She says just the other day some of the kids didn't get their cupcakes. That is a stubborn and defensive thing to say. She is twelve.
Kate is still boo-hooing about a divorce that even in this episode was a long time ago. She works up some tearless tears. She says she couldn't make Jon want to be there. Um, it's not that Jon doesn't want to be "there." Jon just doesn't want to be with you, doofus, and since you're always "there" that becomes a problem now doesn't it. And wait a second, didn't she file for divorce? Lol!
Kate is in agreeance over the divorce. Gaa, that word. Well that's good to know, because she was the one who filed.
Kate is defending herself about the divorce again saying they had to do it in public and she did so tastefully and they would have gotten divorced show or not blah blah. There was absolutely nothing tasteful about her embarrassing purseful of bills pity tour and all the below-the-belt comments she made about Jon in various venues. It was pathetic and self-serving. It was basically like Grey Gardens tasteful.
That tough as nails grandmother commercial is back again! I really remain perpetually in awe of the Greatest Generation and what they endured in the name of freedom, especially those who were kids and endured months of bombings straight or in the alternative were sent up north to live with total strangers. I fear we are no longer honoring their sacrifices and have become far too tolerant of the crap they sought to end once and for all, and my God are our feelings ever hurt just like that. I really recommend the Imperial War Museum if you are ever in London. It's comprehensive, incredibly moving, and free. For kids who don't know much about civilian life during WW2, I hope this commercial causes them to ask their parents, what was that bombing about when she was a kid?
Ashley saw the divorce coming a mile away but was in denial, like it was her own parents. Ashley, bless you, but a blind and deaf centipede could see this divorce coming.
I hate when people do what Kate does when telling a story and ask themselves questions and then answer them themselves immediately after. Was I proud of that no? Did I love that? No. Would I like a grilled cheese for lunch? You bet.
Annoying.
The editors are being mean here. When Kate remarks she and Jon have different parenting ideas, they show Jon texting on his phone while Hannah is trying to ask him something. Maybe it was an important text, or something to do with the kids or work. Or even if it wasn't you don't have to leap to attention every time your kid demands something of you, as long as there's a balance. It's fine kids know there are other things going on for their parents besides their spoiled children. How about tell the kid, I just need 30 more seconds to finish up this text I was writing before you started talking to me and then we will talk, okay baby? It's good for them to learn to wait.
Like no parent has ever been on their phone before while their kid is talking to them, including Kate herself. Stop it. In later years, the editors were far more fair to Jon and could be mean to Kate. It's clear they've come around.
There's a whole lot of rambling and fluff here about the divorce, like it just happened. Keep in mind, even in this episode it was three years ago. Yeesh.
The vow renewal episode was not a hoax, Kate insists. A hoax? That's a strong word. I think we just said they knew then they were separating even while taking that free trip, that's all. What's next the vow renewal is going to show up on snopes.com? Eh, I'll call this rumor MOSTLY TRUE.
Kate can't bring herself to say she does not regret the marriage because of the kids she got out of it even though the statement was spoon-fed to her to say. She hates Jon more than she loves her kids.
Did Kate actually just say Jon was there for the family and did anything she asked of him to do. Wha-what! A moment of clarity. Good, glad she said that. Now go tell your lackey Steve and the idiot sheeple to stop re-writing history.
Oh lovely, the kids nickname that crew member who never showers "Stinky." That is hilarious to a kid, but should be horrifying to a parent. He probably smells like pot, too. That's crew members, folks.
Kate admits there is only one original member of the crew left. Well, that's not surprising at all. Crews come and go. Better or more interesting projects come along, or promotions, or career changes. The idea the children should be encouraged to have such real bonds with such a transient lot is very concerning.
Hm, um um I guess Kate says she will have to get a job now. Uhhh ya think? Go to work, you able bodied woman. Good Lord. Lol, the future holds T.V. and media for me, says Kate. She's so arrogant. You have to get somebody to put you on T.V. first. Oh and um thank you to the cheerleaders, says Kate. Who? Is she talking about the fans, the helpers, both? Could she be a little bit more specific when thanking people?? Why is Kate fake crying? She's not sad at all. She clearly thinks she's winning an Emmy for whatever her next project is.
Without the show Mady says she would have to sit at home and stare at the walls. I'm sure that's the lie her mother tells her. She'll resent this coaching someday. I wonder when Mady realized that not having a T.V. show does not mean a very full and enriching life is cut off from you. And with a little effort a parent can provide endless fun and enrichment that is either cheap or free. A middle class or even poor child can have a good and happy life and the idea that Kate keeps implying that the only path to happiness is to do what she did is nothing but insulting.
This is a long recap. Thanks for bearing with me. It was a full 42 minute episode unfortunately, but it was full of rather notable comments and revelations that just couldn't be glossed over. When Kate is allowed to just run her mouth, recapable stuff always seems to diarrhea out.
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Meanwhile, as you pop a vein over Al Franken, your beloved president Donald Trump is busy defending a pedophile...
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Whew. It's good you identified him by name. I was confused, not knowing who won the election. Glad you cleared that up.
He did exactly that, by your definition of "defending." If LeeAnn Tweeden "defended" Al Franken by saying that he shouldn't be forced out of office, then Donald Trump did exactly the same thing with Moore.
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Number one, Trump is not Roy Moore’s victim, number two, Trump never said Roy Moore should stay in office, he merely expressed concern about “resolving” the problem by voting for a Democrat so soft on crime Id Be terrified to walk the streets on his watch, so I have no clue what you’re talking about. Trump did not go into the specifics of how to resolve this issue but there are many ways people have come up with to try to ensure he is not in office besides voting for the democrat. The White House was very clear about their official position, regardless of how they feel this is up to the voters to decide. It’s not appropriate for them to intervene in that or any other election no matter how serious this is. They’d be hypocritical to intervene given the way people popped a blood vessel over Russia. Besides lawmakers have virtually promised to file ethics violations against him if he is elected practically ensuring he is gone, so this is all much ado about nothing.
In fact you conveniently left out the next thing Trump said, in that he said he was very happy that women were disclosing all this abuse and he thinks it’s a very good thing. That hardly reconciles with the convoluted way you want to twist around his statements to “defend” a predator.
Your bias is glaring and actually pretty funny. You want so bad to play gotchya.
What a waste of resources. I'm betting the kids who have nothing would have appreciated the decked out decorations and Santa Claus greeting them.
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I’ve seen many videos of distribution of the boxes and they are joyous and triumphant occasions. Rest assured there is much fanfare. The kids are thrilled.
As for the church they probably already have a tree so there was no extra expense there, and I’m betting the Santa was just a church volunteer. I doubt most churches would pay for such things. If it helps the volunteers get excited and bring in more boxes what is the problem? Sheesh.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/21/health/girl-scouts-hugging-consent-family-trnd/index.html
Is this real? Wait, we’re going to stop all this predatory behavior by stopping girls from dolling out hugs?? I think that is a massive blaming of the victim. I’m shocked.
Now Trump IS supporting Moore. What's your take?
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1. Trump is not supporting Moore.
2. Even if trump were to issue a statement supporting Moore I still think Moore’s a creep and predator unless there’s some new evidence otherwise. If the handwriting sample comes back as not his yeah I’m going to go over it again, but that’s unlikely. Why would my opinion change just because somebody else thinks otherwise? That would be weird and pathetic. I enjoy hearing other opinions and value some more than others but I base my opinions on the evidence, not what somebody else thinks of the evidence, whether you are the victim, the president, or a troll on the blog. The fact that somebody thinks someone who clearly knows their own mind would just blindly follow somebody suggests perhaps it’s them who would do so. In other words, projection.
"What a waste of resources. I'm betting the kids who have nothing would have appreciated the decked out decorations and Santa Claus greeting them."
I apologize for the brevity and lack of detail in my original post.
For the person who is concerned about the waste of resources, please allow me to provide you with more information. The church is prominent in our community. The sanctuary was full of volunteers and children. I am pretty sure Santa was a congregation member who donates his time for the church and the community.
Under the large tree were hundreds of gifts -- all wrapped for children of families in the community. There were lists suggesting items needed for additional donations. I took one of those lists and will be wrapping some gifts to add to the collection under the tree.
This church also has a food bank and clothes closet for families who need the help.
I do not believe that any resources are being wasted.
People give. Locally. Globally. And, most of all -- generously and with kindness.
Wait. the poster was not "lying". Trump's exact words were "I can tell you one thing for sure we don't need a liberal person, a Democrat, Jones, in that seat,"
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That’s ridiculous. Remember all the people who said I can tell you what we don’t need: Hillary in office. But when asked if they wanted Trump their response was HELL NO. Why you would ever assume expressing concerns about one candidate is a ringing endorsement of the other is beyond me. Trump says what he really means and always has. If he wanted to endorse Moore he would of just said so.
There is nothing wrong with saying folks, we’re in a real bind here as the alternative is concerning in his own right. I happen to agree with him, the alternative is beyond frightening. That does not mean Moore is just fine by me. He’s disgusting. The hyperbole over some very benign comments, followed by some heavy praise for women coming forward with all this (under reported by a landslide, of course) is just silly.
Almost all churches decorate for Christmas. It doesn’t make any sense not to decorate because a child in a poor country won’t have as many decorations. I don’t understand that mentality. You not decorating doesn’t help that child and is just odd around the holidays.
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Is this real? Wait, we’re going to stop all this predatory behavior by stopping girls from dolling out hugs?? I think that is a massive blaming of the victim. I’m shocked.
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This isn’t something new. It’s something I’ve kept in mind with my children. They do hug aunts and uncles we are close to. They don’t have to hug a relative they’ve never met before or aren’t close with if they don’t want to.
Teaching a child they owe a hug or kiss to someone while it’s out of their comfort zone could possibly lead a child to do or allow other things out of their comfort zone. It’s not blaming the victim. It’s the same as teaching a child that no one should be touching their private body parts. If that’s something they are aware of then it’s something they will be uncomfortable with and possibly stop them or tell on them, or at the very least avoid them. Children think differently. Sometimes they don’t tell out of embarrassment or fear.
It’s good to teach a child that if someone touches them they should come to you and tell you no matter what the other person tells them.
Same goes for telling your children not to talk to strangers etc.
Putting preventative measures in place could prevent abuse. If it doesn’t, the victim should never be blamed.
It’s the same with adults. You don’t blame the victim, but you also have to take precautions as an adult. If someone assaults you anyway, the blame is on THEM not you. But warning someone not to pick up a hitchhiker or not to drink a drink you left unattended at a bar is not blaming the victim. It’s about ways to prevent someone from becoming a victim. It’s not the same as blaming a victim.
RIP David Cassidy. Some celebrity deaths hit you harder than others.He provided millions with his charisma and music as an entertainer, and then had a life battling addiction and then dementia.
This isn’t something new. It’s something I’ve kept in mind with my children. They do hug aunts and uncles we are close to. They don’t have to hug a relative they’ve never met before or aren’t close with if they don’t want to.
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Affection should happen naturally not because you were told to, but I can promise “go give so and so a hug” is not the reason women and girls have been abused.
A lot of psychologists are weighing in saying this is mass hysteria and is teaching children to be afraid when there’s nothing to be afraid of. The PSA was met with a lot of backlash.
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Affection should happen naturally not because you were told to, but I can promise “go give so and so a hug” is not the reason women and girls have been abused.
A lot of psychologists are weighing in saying this is mass hysteria and is teaching children to be afraid when there’s nothing to be afraid of. The PSA was met with a lot of backlash.
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There are many opinions on this. Maybe backlash but also lots of support.
One article I found quoted the American Academy of Pediatrics, along with a link to their site. Excerpt from the article:
The American Academy of Pediatrics, on its healthychildren.org blog, offers the following recommendation about hugs:
“Do not force your children to give hugs or kisses to people they do not want to. It is their right to tell even grandma or grandpa that they do not want to give them a kiss or a hug goodbye. Inappropriate touching — especially by a trusted adult — can be very confusing to a child. Constantly reinforce the idea that their body is their own, and they can protect it. It is very important that your child knows to tell you or another trusted grown-up if they have been touched. That way, your child knows it's also your job to protect them.”
This is certainly not a judgment about your relatives’ character or intentions. It’s about guiding children toward a healthy understanding of their bodies and their absolute, unconditional say over who gets to touch them.
“Affection should be freely given, which means it needs to be freely withheld,” sexuality educator Airial Clark told Parents magazine. “There are many things being taught to a child when their bodily autonomy isn’t taken into consideration. One message that gets internalized is ‘your body is more important than your self.’ As in, the affection or comfort your body gives matters more than how you feel about giving it.”
As for your statement "but I can promise “go give so and so a hug” is not the reason women and girls have been abused," while you don't have to personally agree with it, I don't think you can really promise any such thing.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/USF-psychologist-weighs-in-on-Girl-Scouts-she-doesn-t-owe-anyone-a-hug-advice_162874690
http://www.kare11.com/news/local/parents-react-to-girl-scouts-warning-about-hugging/493847457
The Girl Scouts of America have come out with a warning to parents, not to force their daughters to hug everyone. The Girl Scouts say in the future girls may think physical attention is how to show appreciation for a kind deed.
“I don’t think little girls or boys owe anyone a hug,” says Cindy Regnier. She’s spending the day at Payne Park in downtown Sarasota with her daughter and 2-year-old granddaughter. “I want to put her in a little bubble and keep her safe forever,” says Cindy of her granddaughter Sabrina.
“You have to watch them watch their reaction with other people. Go with your gut instinct, let them go with their gut instinct…they know if it’s not right, then it’s not right,” added Kerry.
Cindy suggested, “a handshake…fist bump…or high-five!”
“I agree with Girls Scouts, the problem is you don’t want to make the child paranoid or scared,” said Dr. Eddie Regnier, family psychologist. “The child wants to do it, fine. If the child does not want to and resists it, leave the child alone. The child needs to learn his or her affection is their choice, not our choice,” said Reginier.
Psychologists say the Girl Scouts warning is a good reminder to start talking to your kids early about the difference between good touch and bad touch. This way, if there is a problem, they’ll tell you about it.
Kerry said, “It takes a village to raise a child. But the village is scary now. Outside your door, you don’t know your neighbor, you can’t trust anybody.”
I haven't found anything online about your quote "a lot of psychiatrists" stating "this is mass hysteria and is teaching children to be afraid when there's nothing to be afraid of."
I did find this:
Psychiatrist Dr Janet Taylor responded on ABC News by saying parents should be careful to not create “a mass hysteria about physical contact with loved ones”.
“As parents, we have to use common sense and also realize that it’s never too early to start a conversation about good touch and bad touch,” said Taylor.
But also we don’t want to overstep our boundaries so our children are not afraid of who they should not be afraid of.
http://www.thejournal.ie/girl-scouts-warn-hugging-relatives-3710157-Nov2017/
It's all well and good to not require hugging, I have always hated the way Kate would "resolve" conflict among her children by making the victim hug their perp, but it worries me that parents think they are protecting their children with this stance.
Aly Raisman said something very disturbing, and that is that no one ever told her what sexual abuse was, so she didn't even know it was happening when it did. She is a huge proponent now of making sure we educate children on this issue.
If kids are told you don't have to hug Uncle John if you don't want to, but are not ever told about good touch and bad touch, the boat is really being missed.
Sexual abuse is rampant because parents are leaving kids alone with other adults thinking they are to be trusted, and because kids are not being taught to recognize the behavior and say something, and finally because adults themselves have failed children by not reporting it when it was disclosed, or in many cases I've personally seen, not even believing the child in the first place. THAT is the much bigger problem here.
I haven't found any child psychologist backlash against the Girl Scouts advice. All the comments I've seen are from parents.
The only one that mentioned "hysteria" was the quote I listed above. And she wasn't against the Girls Scouts advice. Just said to be careful how you relate it to your children so as not to scare them. Big difference.
Sex abuse very commonly happens via a perp the child loves and has hugged many times of their own accord. Often stepfather, uncle, teacher.
That's where the victim blaming can come in. If we suddenly start telling kids no more hugs unless YOU want to, the ones who did dole out hugs to the perp because they wanted to may feel guilty for not recognizing them as a perp.
You can't tell a sexual perpetrator just by the fact that you feel odd about hugging them. Perps are very savvy, and many are good at being the most liked guy in the room, and you can bet they've been able to get many children to hug them consensually.
If kids are told you don't have to hug Uncle John if you don't want to, but are not ever told about good touch and bad touch, the boat is really being missed.
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The "hug" advice wasn't in place of the "good touch/bad touch" advice. It was in addition to it.
Of course all those issues you mentioned are major issues. This additional measure doesn't take away from all that. It's just an additional measure.
Besides, you referred to it as "blaming the victim." I don't believe that teaching parents to teach their children precautions is adding to blaming the victim. Precautions are necessary, unfortunately.
What needs to be done is castrating anyone that sexually abuses a child. Touching, or worse. Cut it all off. And don't let them out of jail to ever be able to touch a child again!!! There is NO cure for this. Makes me sick.
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That's where the victim blaming can come in. If we suddenly start telling kids no more hugs unless YOU want to, the ones who did dole out hugs to the perp because they wanted to may feel guilty for not recognizing them as a perp.
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Someone feeling guilty for doing or not doing something is not victim blaming. Victim blaming is when someone else makes them feel they share partial blame for what happened.
If you're talking about feeling guilt within yourself that's a different issue. That's not victim blaming.
Anonymous (191) and Tucker's Mom (1),
I would be afraid to be a teacher these days. Even young children have learned that making accusations against a teacher can get them out of trouble. One teacher I know (in PA) has been physically attacked several times by a student in her class. That student then accuses the teacher of hitting/pushing/kicking him, in order to shift the blame to the teacher. She (the teacher) now has had to learn a new way of dealing with this student. When he attacks, she raises her hands in the air and backs out into the hallway. There are cameras in the hallway, so the student's attack on her is recorded, and there is also a recording that shows that she does not harm the student. The school had to show the recordings to the student's parents to prove that he was not being abused by his teacher, as they believed their child and threatened to sue the school and the teacher. The student didn't know he was being recorded, and claimed that the teacher punched him, kicked him, and threw him down in the hallway. The recording showed he was lying. It was only after being confronted that the child's parents realized the truth. The student still refuses to admit he lied.
Another is a teacher in inner city Baltimore. When she told a student repeatedly to stop picking on another student, and eventually sent him to the principal's office, he then said she (the teacher) called hi the "n-word". Fortunately, the other students in the class backed up the teacher. These are elementary school students who have learned that they can be violent toward other students and teachers alike, and get out of taking responsibility for their own actions by making false allegations toward the teachers. What is going to happen when these kids are adults and have never learned to take responsibility for their actions? How far can this go, and how can we stop this cycle of violence coupled with false allegations?
New picture of Shoka on Kate’s instagram. What is she trying to prove? One of the Mensa members over there commented “Your feline children are just beautiful Kate....they are lucky to have you and the kids as their family!!”. Are the people for real?
The "hug" advice wasn't in place of the "good touch/bad touch" advice. It was in addition to it.
The "hug" advice wasn't in place of the "good touch/bad touch" advice. It was in addition to it.
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Not really, the scouts didn't mention anything else about sexual abuse prevention, like actually teaching kids what sex abuse is. The statement only talks about not hugging if you don't want to as a way to teach consent. What they did say correctly is don't take this as a license to be rude when relatives should be shown gratitude, but that there are other ways to express it if you don't want to hug. Fair enough. I would suggest a thank you note if Uncle brings you a toy for Thanksgiving, for starters, but they don't go into those details.
Sadly many parents need this stuff spelled out for them--even good parents have simply not taught kids what bad touch is. I'm not sure how many more incidents we need to hear about before we realize we are not properly teaching this stuff--kids and adults alike. It's actually deplorable how poorly victims have been taught, or not taught, to handle abuse, it's like they're totally ignorant and helpless most of the time. When you see someone who WAS given good education confront abuse, as I have, the difference is glaring.
http://www.girlscouts.org/en/raising-girls/happy-and-healthy/happy/what-is-consent.html
I see the Girl Scout Holiday Reminder as just that... a reminder during this coming holiday.
It mentioned there are other appropriate ways to show appreciation or love during the holidays when having family over, and they gave a few examples. I don't think they need to spell out specifics like Thank You notes. That's not the point of the reminder. Besides, they were pointing out what the child can do at that moment when someone wants a hug, etc, not later once the guests leave.
I thought the advice was appropriate for what it was. A reminder around the holidays. Could they have also added not to go into a private room, etc sure, but we are talking having family over for Thanksgiving dinner, and teaching a child an appropriate response to someone wanting a holiday hug, etc. It was an appropriate reminder for the specific circumstances being discussed.
I just don't see how giving that advice or reminder is a form of blaming the victim, which was what my original response was for.
“Your feline children are just beautiful Kate....they are lucky to have you and the kids as their family!!”.
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I guess no one ever told this fan that “felines” are cats! Still no Milo!
Monday will be 2 months, No Milo!
Wonder if TFW got a cease and desist, a gag order and a restraining order bundled all in one.
A lot has happened since Milo has been on. The twins birthday, the hearing coming up, Halloween and Puppypalozza IG pictures and Collin still gone.
And this above doesn't do it?
Just Missy said...
One of the Mensa members over there commented “Your feline children are just beautiful Kate....they are lucky to have you and the kids as their family!!”. Are the people for real?
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Debatable, isn't it?
Mensa members...lol!
Oh, this is so funny.
Caught a little bit of Bill and Jen having to hire a nanny for Will. The First Lady was being considered by another family, she was a great candidate.
But the funny part was, the next applicant was a girl in or just out of college and her name was KATE! She was a specialist in taking care of small children, especially being sick and recovering from surgery.
The not so funny part is TFW didn't have specialists taking care of Collin AT HOME all of these years. Could of had one of those Grandma pod tiny house put in the very back of the property and Collin could of still play with his brothers and sisters and have a decent life.
Just thing every dollar spent on that witch's vanity (the hair, the nails, the tanning, the Ann Taylor clothes, the 2 pairs of shoes she grabbed on the school shopping trip years ago that cost 600 dollars) would of been PLENTY to take care of him.
Believe me, nobody wants to be in her shoes when JD comes. Even the costly veneers in her mouth will be gnash end to the bone when she tries to explain her actions.
The Daily Mail has a new article and pictures on Mama June's 300 pound weight loss. One comment says, "The slimmed down Mama June looks like Kate Gosselin".
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Rainbowsandunicorns said...
Before it even got to that point, wouldn't you run out off there screaming and report it?
I dunno know. Why do I not believe this chick?
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She said that even after it was over, she turned her head and went to sleep, so yeah you have to wonder...why stick around?
If it's too embarrassing to report it, at least consult with someone who can advise you what to do.
Helplines were available in 2002 were they not?
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njay - did you get your sandwich you were craving?
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YEP! No foul from my fowl. It turned out nummy. Thanks everyone! HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL!
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Oh glad to hear that. Next-day turkey sandwiches are my favorite part of turkey dinners. After preparing it, I never feel hungry for the big turkey meal because of sampling and tasting in the kitchen all day.
Are these available at Petco? “Yeah you owe Shoko the whole kitten caboodle he brings you much happiness plus giving you two baby puppies!!!”. There seems to be a cat theme on her Instagram today.
If it's too embarrassing to report it, at least consult with someone who can advise you what to do.
Helplines were available in 2002 were they not?
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I would think so. Police stations are available 24/7. You are raped, you report it. You do not reciprocate the sex act and then go to sleep, and then cry rape 15 years later. Geez.
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The not so funny part is TFW didn't have specialists taking care of Collin AT HOME all of these years. Could of had one of those Grandma pod tiny house put in the very back of the property and Collin could of still play with his brothers and sisters and have a decent life."
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We don't know that. We don't know if he was being treated, where and by whom. In fact, we don't know his issues. What we do know is that he was expelled from Kindergarten for allegedly aggressive behavior. The thing is, if this were true and it got progressively worse, as a parent I would be extremely concerned about having him at home and around his family. Would you want to sleep with one eye open, knowing that his behavior could possibly present a danger to his siblings? I have thought about this, and as a parent, if something happened to my other children under my watch, and I knew that the safety of my kids was at risk, I couldn't live with myself if something happened to any of them, but that's just me.
That said, all filming should have stopped when the decision was made to place him in a treatment facility. Her greed is just unconscionable.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 15
Almost all churches decorate for Christmas. It doesn’t make any sense not to decorate because a child in a poor country won’t have as many decorations. I don’t understand that mentality. You not decorating doesn’t help that child and is just odd around the holidays.
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Such austerity is pious more serving of the prideful person virtue signaling than it is to some needy child.
Cut me a break!
Churches budget for many things, from keeping the lights on, the heat on, renovations, upkeep, and even...you guessed it...fun stuff for something that is equally important: enrichment!
Additionally, churches get help from volunteers and donations from local businesses.
Once again, the ladies of the veranda come to the aid of the needy during the holidays. So impressive. From the shoe boxes to charity run/walks, you are my muumuus!!
A look at some of the men accused since the Weinstein accusations emerged:
Entertainment:
Celebrity chef John Besh — Accused by 25 women of sexual harassment. He has stepped down from the company he founded.
Singer Nick Carter — Accused by pop singer Melissa Schuman of raping her approximately 15 years ago. Carter has denied her allegations.
Comedian Louis C.K. — Accused by five women of sexual misconduct. Planned release of film "I Love You, Daddy" halted. Netflix special canceled. He says the allegations are true and has apologized.
Cinefamily executives Hadrian Belove and Shadie Elnashai — Accused of sexual misconduct. Movie theater shut down in the wake of allegations due to crippling debt.
Actor Richard Dreyfuss — One woman alleges sexual harassment. He denies the allegation.
Film producer Adam Fields — Accused of offering a promotion to a woman at his former employer, Relativity Media, in exchange for sex. He has denied the allegations
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Director-producer Gary Goddard — Accused by one man of sexually molesting him when the man was 12. He denies the allegation.
Casting employee Andy Henry — Admitted to urging women to take off their clothes during coaching sessions in 2008 while working on the "CSI" series. He was fired by his current employer.
Part II
Actor Dustin Hoffman — Accused by woman of sexual harassing when she was 17. He has apologized for his behavior.
Actor Robert Knepper — Accused by one woman of sexual assault. He denies the allegations.
Showrunner Andrew Kreisberg — Accused by 19 women of sexual harassment and inappropriate touching. The "Supergirl" and "Arrow" showrunner has been suspended by Warner Bros. Television Group. He told Variety he has made comments on women's appearances and clothes "but they were not sexualized."
Pixar and Disney Animation chief John Lasseter — Accused by several women of unwanted touching and has announced he is taking a six-month leave of absence. He has acknowledged some "missteps" with employees and apologized for any behavior that made workers uncomfortable.
Actor Jeremy Piven — Accused by three women of sexual misconduct. He denies all allegations.
Filmmaker Brett Ratner — Accused by at least six women of sexual harassment. Playboy shelved projects with Ratner and Ratner stepped away from Warner Bros. related activities. He denies the allegations.
Comedy festival organizer Gilbert Rozon — Accused by at least nine women of sexually harassing or sexually assaulting them. Rozon stepped down as president of Montreal's renowned "Just for Laughs" festival and apologized "to all those I have offended during my life."
Producer Chris Savino — Accused of harassing up to 12 women. Fired from Nickelodeon. He has apologized for his behavior.
Actor Steven Seagal — Accused by two women of rape. He denies the allegations.
Actor Tom Sizemore — Accused of groping an 11-year-old actress in 2003. Utah prosecutors declined to file charges, citing witness and evidence problems. He denies the allegation.
Actor Kevin Spacey — Accused by at least 24 men of sexual misconduct or assault. London police reportedly investigating two sexual assaults. Fired from "House of Cards" and replaced in Ridley Scott's completed film "All the Money in the World." Massachusetts prosecutors are investigating one allegation. His former publicist has said he is seeking unspecified treatment.
Actor Jeffrey Tambor — Two women — an actress on his show "Transparent" and his assistant — allege sexual misconduct. He denies the allegation, saying in a statement that he has "never been a predator — ever." Tambor said this week he doesn't see how he can return to the Amazon series.
Actor George Takei — One man alleges sexual assault. He denies the allegation.
Writer-director James Toback — Accused by hundreds of women of sexual harassment. Beverly Hills police investigating complaints. He has denied the allegations to the Los Angeles Times.
"Mad Men" creator Matthew Weiner — Accused by one woman of sexual harassment. He denies the allegation.
Producer Harvey Weinstein — Accused by dozens of women of sexual harassment or sexual assaults, including rape. Fired by The Weinstein Co. and expelled from various professional guilds. Under investigation by police departments in New York, London, Beverly Hills and Los Angeles. Weinstein denies all allegations of non-consensual sex, but he has apologized for causing "a lot of pain" with "the way I've behaved with colleagues in the past."
Actor Ed Westwick — Accused by two women of sexual assault. The BBC pulled an Agatha Christie adaptation from its television schedule and halted production on a second sitcom starring the former "Gossip Girl' actor. Los Angeles police are investigating. He denies the allegations.
Off topic for all you dog owners:
Do you have a tried & true recipe for dog treats/biscuits using canned tuna? Because I love to cook, I got a phone call from a friend who is a new (rescue) dog owner with this request. I don't even have a dog, but I know several of you here do. I've made dog biscuits using peanut butter for other dogs but not tuna. Ideas?
Off topic for all you dog owners:
Do you have a tried & true recipe for dog treats/biscuits using canned tuna? Because I love to cook, I got a phone call from a friend who is a new (rescue) dog owner with this request. I don't even have a dog, but I know several of you here do. I've made dog biscuits using peanut butter for other dogs but not tuna. Ideas?
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Anonymous (191) and Tucker's Mom (1),
I would be afraid to be a teacher these days. Even young children have learned that making accusations against a teacher can get them out of trouble
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Similar thing just happened in my area involving a high school girl accusing a teacher and putting the teacher's job and career at risk of going down the toilet.
The h.s. girl is muslim and wears a hijab. She also had on a hoodie with the hood covering her head, which is a big no-no.
The teacher pulled the hoodie hood down to uncover her head, and accidentally pulled the hijab down also.
The teacher had no idea there was a hijab underneath.
Well, the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the student!
The muslim girl went immediately onto social media and accused the teacher of ripping off her hijab, made accusations of islamophobia and got the local mosque and community leaders involved.
The teacher was put on leave without pay (Happy Holidays! Good luck paying for the extras this time of year!) and has to face these ugly accusations when all she did was pull a hood down.
Now of course, the teacher should have asked first, but this was far from a hate crime, which the student is claiming.
Fortunately, another girl, also Muslim, witnessed the event and said indeed the teacher was just trying to pull down a hood that was against school rules, and the hijab was accidentally pulled down too.
Another witness also said the same thing.
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We don't know that. We don't know if he was being treated, where and by whom. In fact, we don't know his issues.
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Exactly. I agree. Perhaps, under the direction of his physician and/or therapist, he was put on medication, and if that wasn't working it was advised that he be treated elsewhere where professionals would be with him day and night.
Wishing all of our American friends a very Happy Thanksgiving!
Exactly. I agree. Perhaps, under the direction of his physician and/or therapist, he was put on medication, and if that wasn't working it was advised that he be treated elsewhere where professionals would be with him day and night.
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That would be institutionalizing Collin, which is a far cry from "special needs" and learning to be the best Collin he can be.
If the former is true, then the other children have been through something unimaginable, and continuing to film by telling these gauzy stories about Collin's "special needs" is truly sick.
Tucker's Mom (#49), and if indeed the circumstances of C's removal were so dire, I cannot for the life of me fathom how TFW has carried on as if she was never happier. Puppies! Space camp! Best birthday parties ever! Wheee! She has been manic since she got that boy out of her hair. Meanwhile, he has 7 siblings processing this loss, and I doubt their mother has the capacity or interest in dealing with the emotional challenge this has posed for them.
She truly doesn't care about Collin.
He is not coming back.
Only herself, her greed, her Yes Man, the continued filming, the paycheck from TLC and keeping her mug on tv.
Another PW story. PW, her daughter, and her friend was spending tonight together at the Ranch and it was just PW, the daughter and her friend. Her daughter asked her mother to stay with them and watch a movie and spend time with them.
The next morning, PW was fixing pancakes and made each girl 2 big ones each. PW told the girls, THANK YOU for inviting me to spend some time with you last night, I enjoyed it!
Difference in PW and TFW is night and day. TFW FORCES her kids to stay with her because she is so afraid of losing control. I am pretty confident if something happened on PW and it would be better to not film for a while or anymore, they would do it, without question.
I don't want anything to happen, but PW and Marlboro
Man's priorities are top shelf when it comes to their family life and their children.
Look what TFW has done.
Accidentally found this. FYI
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Someone's posted a sketchy photo of K8 on Twitter, in a very low-cut pink bra and apparently little else. I've never seen this before and am wondering if it's a photo-shopped image. Despite the cleavage and heavy make-up, she looks quite masculine in this one.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPMbHkSVAAAv9tK.jpg
FlimsyFlamsy said... 50
Tucker's Mom (#49), and if indeed the circumstances of C's removal were so dire, I cannot for the life of me fathom how TFW has carried on as if she was never happier. Puppies! Space camp! Best birthday parties ever! Wheee! She has been manic since she got that boy out of her hair.
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My thoughts, too. If Collin has been a real danger, especially in a violent way, I can't comport this with what we've seen right after Kate sent him away.
Again, if Collin is violent, I'd think Jon would have some damn rights to know, especially if law enforcement and the courts were involved.
Doesn't smell right.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPMbHkSVAAAv9tK.jpg
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Totally photoshopped.
Happy Thanksgiving to all of our American veranda muumuus!
We're having a small gathering. Just prepped the turkey and DH made his favorite side of stuffing.
Have a blessed day, wherever you are!
Happy Thanksgiving to my fellow Americans! Wishing you all a great day no matter what you're doing.
And if you need a good laugh, or just want to marvel at a true classic sitcom, I encourage you to check out Antenna TV's "All In The Family" marathon. They're up to the 3rd season now, when the cast really hit its stride, and the writing was amazing. Still fresh and funny 45 years later!
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Hahaha! Now that is hilarious!
Tucker's mom said...55
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Now, that is hilarious!
I thought I recognized Chef Jon Besh's name so I did a google image search and WOW! HIM? What an idiot! He has been married for 26 years with 4 sons!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Besh
Someone's posted a sketchy photo of K8 on Twitter, in a very low-cut pink bra and apparently little else. I've never seen this before and am wondering if it's a photo-shopped image. Despite the cleavage and heavy make-up, she looks quite masculine in this one.
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Kate's inflatables are bigger than that, hang south, east and west.
Happy Thanksgiving to my American friends. In honor of your day I'll enjoy a favorite flick - Planes Trains and Automobiles. Gobble gobble!
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I thought I recognized Chef Jon Besh's name so I did a google image search and WOW! HIM? What an idiot! He has been married for 26 years with 4 sons!
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He had an "aw gee shucks" Southern gentleman brand and had a lot going on Food TV.
He can kiss that goodbye.
He had an "aw gee shucks" Southern gentleman brand and had a lot going on Food TV.
He can kiss that goodbye.
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He's an arrogant s.o.b. At least that's the vibe he gives when I've watched him on Food Network.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/21/health/girl-scouts-hugging-consent-family-trnd/index.html
It's not so much the hugging as it is the forcing them to hug.
Happy Thanksgiving 🦃🍁 to all!
Tucker's Mom (#63), after witnessing Teflon TFW'S continued success, and the resurrection of the Duggar brand, I will never again predict anyone's career demise. Oy.
In that photo of Kate her French manicured talons
are the same, that is about it.
Hope the G kids spent Thanksgiving today with their father, especially, Collin.
I hope they all had a great T day with all of the trimmings.
I pray Collin had a extra special day today.
That is not Kate's neck. She wishes her neck looked like that, but alas, it's the only part of her that hasn't been sculpted, botoxed and air-pumped.
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 70
That is not Kate's neck. She wishes her neck looked like that, but alas, it's the only part of her that hasn't been sculpted, botoxed and air-pumped.
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She was hoping that her expensive hair would cover up that part! She is so greedy but frugal at the same time she had to cut corners somewhere.
Fleecing the Sheeple (#70),the thing she still needs the most work done on is her personality.
Wow, Kate is thankful for Shoka on Thanksgiving? New picture of Shoka. Of course we are all thankful for our furry friends, but wouldn't you say family or kids or something??? ( which includes the dogs?)
Hope everyone had a lovely holiday in the US and a nice day for those who indulged earlier in the year.What countries are represented here besides Canada?
http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/24/media/uma-thurman-harvey-weinstein-metoo/index.html
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Dang what did Harvey Weinstein do to Uma?!
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 74
http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/24/media/uma-thurman-harvey-weinstein-metoo/index.html
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Dang what did Harvey Weinstein do to Uma?!
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God bless your heart, Uma! It doesn't sound good what Weinstein did. She said that he didn't deserve a bullet. She wants him to suffer for a long time like the women have suffered.
She posted on her IG a picture of her driving in the movie, Kill Bill. That might be a clue when Weinstein was taking advantage of her.
Nadia and her 8 babies are now 8 years old!
Cute pictures. I love that they don''t matchy matchy in regular clothes. They just did a Turkey Run and they all look so happy and healthy.
Her older 6 children are not shown.
http://toofab.com/photos/beb9b9a6-de90-405c-804a-458313c34270
OT- I just ordered the Amazon Fire Stick with voice remote. It was on sale on Black Friday for $25.
I've been using Roku, but want to give the Fire Stick a try. I especially want to use voice control instead of the clumsy scrolling with the remote and spelling out titles one letter at a time.
Octo Mom and her 8 kids look amazing.
It's funny and pretty sad that Kate was looked upon at "the" HOM authority, so perfect with her hair, tan, manicure, new boobs and tight bod, Ann Taylor perfect clothing, while Natalie Sulemon (sp?) was this total mess with a messy house she couldn't afford, babies in dirty clothes, kids half clothed.
I remember even Dr. Phil helped perpetuate the brand of Kate, the perfect mom, vs. OctoMom, the imperfect mother who did everything wrong and irresponsibly.
Well, there's OctoMom with her 8 kids, all looking great, running a 5K with their mother.
All home. All together.
Funny how things work out over time.
OT- I just ordered the Amazon Fire Stick with voice remote. It was on sale on Black Friday for $25.
I've been using Roku, but want to give the Fire Stick a try. I especially want to use voice control instead of the clumsy scrolling with the remote and spelling out titles one letter at a time.
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I'm continuing to enjoy it. Can't wait to hear what you think!
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Well, there's OctoMom with her 8 kids, all looking great, running a 5K with their mother.
All home. All together.
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I read a couple of years ago, one of the octotups had severe coping skills and was placed in a special school, BUT!!!
He went to school during the day and was in his own bed, in his own home at night.
No almost, He's Gone for 2 years and counting and chugging along.
And Nadya didn't do a photoshoot on a magazine cover announcing it to the world with everyone in white, playing tug of war with a rope and pose with those ghoulish, creepy grins.
Nadya couldn't care less if the kids got grass stains on their clothes. She or someone would spray Shout Out on them and toss them in with the rest of the washer load.
TFW's tirade about standing on her feet rubbing stains out of the kids clothes taking her hours to do it. She's never heard of stain removal spray? I hope she enjoys the free clothes and the free money she got for selling them in the consignment shop for over a decade.
The brainwashing of this children to make them so afraid to get anything on their clothes for years is child abuse.
Back to flogging the cookbook. Which, not surprisingly, has sold fewer than 100 copies on Amazon so far this year.
kateplusmy8 ANOTHER homemade Apple Pie going into the oven! We've made at least 12 pies this holiday weekend...and counting! #Yum #WhatsForBreakfastLunchDinner #PIE 😋😋😋😋 #ThanksgivingFoods *Link to my cook book: Love Is In The Mix is in my bio ...
nicolle.dipardo You should write a cookbook..
kateplusmy8@nicolle.dipardo I already have😉! It's called Love Is In The Mix .. link: Kate Gosselin's Love Is in the Mix: Making Meals into Memories with Family-Friendly ... https://www.amazon.com/dp/0757317642/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_BAGgAbSMHGM5R
nicolle.dipardo@kateplusmy8 oh great.. how did I not know that?? Lol. checking it out now ❤️
alicia_renee78 Looks good @kateplusmy8 do you have a recipe to share?
kateplusmy8@alicia_renee78 It's in my cookbook... link in my bio😋😉
I bet she wishes she had fans who could read. 😋😉
Nadya couldn't care less if the kids got grass stains on their clothes.
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Not to burst your "The Patron Saint of All Multiples - Nadya Suleman" but...... you do know she's got a few screws lose, don't you?
Masturbation sex tape being only 1 of the bizarre and truly awful decisions she's made. I highly doubt her very odd demeanor has done a complete 180. More like the tabs aren't interested in her any more. She shouldn't be posting ANY pics of those kids! She KNOWS they'll be picked up by a tab, and daresay she WANTS them to be picked up by a tab $$$$$
Let's be careful not to label Nadya the Perfect Mother simply because we dislike Kate Gosselin. Hell, ANYONE compared to KG would be a supermom!
And Nadya didn't do a photoshoot on a magazine cover announcing it to the world with everyone in white, playing tug of war with a rope and pose with those ghoulish, creepy grins.
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I seem to remember that CPS was called to her home quite a few times, and she was in rehab for Xanax addiction. I can't remember when that was...something like five years ago.
Where are the other 11 pies and why... when I make apple pie it doesn't look like canned apples? The newest photo is canned apple and I only know this because I make apple pie all the time using fresh and my cousin uses canned apples....
Looks like ol' PumpkinBottom will be visiting soon. With or without cameras?
jamiepumpkin3 Are you going to make me one when I come?😁
kateplusmy8@jamiepumpkin3 yeah but when are you coming? That's the most important question....we must finalize this week. Okay?
And . . . busted! LOL.
mcshriv The recipe is canned apples with apple sauce and pillsbury pie crust super easy sprinkle some cinnamon on to and weeee pie.... I'm a baker and can spot pillsbury pie crust in a second.
Remember that chicken pot pie or savory pie at Pie Face on the Apprentice that TFW put that huge silver measuring cup filled with brown spices in?
Was it 15 cups? Trying to remember.
What in the world did TFW do with 12 pies? If she had guests over for Thanksgiving, wouldn't she have mentioned it?
Kate's "homemade" apple pie is the same as Paula Deen's pie from years ago. There are many recipes for the canned apple and applesauce pie on line also. She is so fake...the pie crust is also pre-made.
Yes, 12 pies, all apple??...if she had a party or an occasion she would have been sure to post something about it, or a picture of the table etc. To me the pies do not look totally homemade and TFW has said she is not a baker in the past...
Agree that the pie is from cans and a box. I wouldn't even try to pass that off as some homemade pie.
It's home-assembled pie.
And to tell someone it's in her cookbook? Please.
How insulting.
It's sad Kate has to hint at having a houseful of people for Thanksgiving with her dozen pies. I've been to big gatherings and have never seen anyone bake a dozen pies.
And, it's not like anyone wants to get one of those can pies as a gift.
I wouldn't serve it.
I've used canned apple pie filling (as in, jarred and bought from a farm), and think it's best for warm apple topping over French vanilla ice cream with homemade caramel sauce, or a crumble, which is super easy to throw together a topping and bake 'til bubbly.
Huh? Since when does following someone else’s recipe mean that food isn’t really homemade?
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The other poster didn't say that, so calm down. She just pointed out it's Paula Dean's recipe, and I myself wonder why Kate wouldn't just reference that. She never gives credit to other people for their recipes, she would rather imply it's her own invention.
I wouldn't call apple pie from a can homemade, but to each his own. It doesn't take that much more work to peel and slice apples, you could put your 8 I mean 7 kids on the task, and if you use two or three different kinds of apples, that pie will sing.
Also she made, what was it 12 pies? That's RIDICULOUS. That's more than a pie per person. She is so over the top.
We had two pies for 8 people and we still had leftovers.
foxy said... 88
I think for K8, "homemade" is whatever she says it is. Using a pre-made crust and canned ingredients is not what most of us would consider homemade, but hey, she cut out the crust and opened a can. What I find a little strange is that she refers people to her cookbook for this recipe---is she using a pre-made crust there as well? Whatever. As usual, K8's intent is to make herself look like Mom of the Year, and you're just supposed to overlook whatever truth has to be glossed over in order to pull this off.
Honest question and not snark because I’m not a baker and never have been. How can you tell that the crust is not homemade? The filling I get because it looks like processed apples even to my untrained eye. Maybe all the teachers are getting pies this year instead of her “world famous” cinnamon buns.
Interesting that there's no pictures of the kids or even of place settings from Thanksgiving. I suspect Jon had some of the kids and she didn't want to have to admit they weren't with her. So she posted the dog and her pie instead.
She's been on an IG posting frenzy lately. Looks like she's desperate for adoration and affirmation. Without a film crew there, she only has her remaining fans to gush over her. If they were filming, she'd ignore them.
The only pie in her recipe index is Homemade Turkey Pot Pie. Good thing she stuck "homemade" in there because, um, it IS a cookbook with her name on it so it better not be Stouffers. Geez Kate.
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How very slimy of her then, to imply, more than once, that this pie recipe is in her cookbook. The ship has long since sailed on that project---it was an abject failure, with total sales on Amazon of just under 2,600 over the course of 50 months. And the purpose of the IG post was clearly to push the book, since when the first photo went up she had already put the amazon link in her bio. Whatever was the point?
Layla, I agree. She is posting objects and pets to sub for the missing kids or those refusing to be photographed.Basically she is posting her sham of a life.
Isn't it interesting that she's plugging her cookbook now, more than 4 years after it was published. Is she in need of money and hoping for some new sales? She was also promoting that Teami stuff and some monthly delivery thing during the summer. It sure looks like she's trying to "piece and patch" an income again.
Sad but true - Well, we know how Kate operates...it doesn't matter to her if she has to practice a little deception to get what she wants. In this case it's steering her fans over to that silly cookbook, probably to get rid of a few of the hundreds she has stacked up somewhere in the basement of the mcmansion. And she sure isn't going to give them away if she can still make a buck or two off them. She probably thinks 'so what if there's no apple pie recipe in the book at least I plugged it'. She's a sneaky one.
There is an apple pie recipe in the book. You don't look up desserts to find it- no, you have to go to 'perfect endings' But this is called Fast Freezer Apple Pie Filling which goes with her Quick and Crumbly Pie Crumb Topping.
May I remind you ladies I acquired this book for a quarter at a yard sale!
I looked at the Table of Contents of the cookbook (on Amazon) and there is a recipe for Fast Freezer Apple Pie Filling. So she's lying about there being an actual pie recipe, but there is a recipe for part of the pie. That said--the filling in her pie picture in IG is obviously canned.
Looking at the contents page of that cookbook reminded me of how ridiculous the pictures in it are. Besides the one of Joel with sloppy joe filling smeared all over his face, there's very staged pictures of her with the kids--her with Cara and Mady standing in front of an empty Crock Pot, one of her standing with one of the Hannah, who is pretending to stir something in an obviously empty bowl, and one of her with Alexis at the stove with a stovetop wok. The wok is on the stove, but Kate is resting her bare hand on the metal side of it. If they were cooking something, wouldn't the wok be hot? Her hand would get burned. Alexis is pretending to stir something, even though you can see that it's empty.
C'mon, folks, this is a cookbook! Shouldn't there be something in those bowls and in the wok? Why stir if there's nothing to stir? Or, if you're going to photograph something like that, at least put something in it to pretend to stir. Fake, fake, fake. It's like they weren't even trying.
There is an apple pie recipe in the book. You don't look up desserts to find it- no, you have to go to 'perfect endings
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Yes why would an apple pie be in desserts?
Perfect endings. Ew. Is that anything like happy endings?
OT -- to the ladies who have recommended many interesting books and movies for my pleasure. Here is another for our list --
I am one half way through the Network original "Alias Grace". I knew nothing of the story or the book by Margaret Atwood.
Google and a Kindle download will follow watching this sublime 6-part series.
Based on a true story. Subtle and marvelous acting. And, as always, dialogue is so much richer when spoken with a accent.
May I remind you ladies I acquired this book for a quarter at a yard sale!
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You still paid too much ; )
In total agreement with you, Layla!
Remember what she did with the FLAG CAKE? She claimed she came up with it! If she would be as bold as brass about that, she became bolder with the 1st cookbook being almost printed? and dumped because they were not her recipes!
Love is in the Mix is a self-published book. No reputable publisher would touch it.
Even on the cover, it is SO STAGED AND FAKED! Those are ready to cut and bake cookies, not Love is in the Mix cookies, Made with Love and Mixed with LOVE!
For it to be a Love is in the Mix recipe she is trying to convince you it is, you would of had to had a recipe with ingredients and had a big hand-printed bowl to make them with! 1/2 cup (1 stick) unsalted butter, 3/4 cup packed dark brown sugar, 3/4 cup sugar, 2 large eggs, 1 teaspoon pure vanilla extract, 1 (12-ounce) bag semisweet chocolate chips, or chunks, 2 1/4 cups all-purpose flour,
3/4 teaspoon baking soda.
But she couldn't use this one! It is the Nestle Toll-House Cookie Recipe!
Remember years ago, we caught the tube cut and bake cookies in her refrigerator with the Redi-Whip aerosol can? IIRC? She was MANIC about being organic!
There couldn't of possibly have been any cookie batter dough in the big hand-print bowl because some remnants of the dough would of been near the rim of the bowl from stirring. Those cookie dough balls are from the tube of cookie dough rolls!
Now that I look at it closer, I think that TFW's picture was taken while the kids were in school and she was at home in her precious, sanctimonious kitchen, the picture was taken and was photo shopped in later because she was not able to act like a normal person trying to get the pictures done like you would normally do at a photo shoot. (Conspiracy Theory!)
I feel really bad for Joel in this book. That was just unbelievable for his own mother to force him to allow them to apply all of that Sloppy Joe's on his face, take pictures of it and flash it all over the world.
Those kids have been through the ringer and more. Especially, Collin. Poor kids!
Auntie Ann, hahaha!
Paid too much! 25 cents too much! lol
Auntie Ann, hahaha!
Paid too much! 25 cents too much! lol
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Duped again! lol
Admin- I choked on my coffe at that “happy endings”comment. Ewwwww is right now please pass the brain bleach!
Last night, just for shitz and giggles, I watched Amy's Baking Co. on Kitchen Nightmares (youtube). I had half-forgotten what a miserable wench Amy was and her nutso hubby wasn't any better.
But then lo and behold after that, there was a Kitchen Nightmares special - Return to Amy's Kitchen - which I didn't know existed. Amy was even crazier than ever. Apparently this woman knows much more about running a restaurant than Gordon Ramsey lol. Amy reminds me so much of Kate because she's in charge and that ain't ever going to change.
AuntieAnn (#110), didn't Amy brag at the time about all the reality show offers she and Samy were fielding?
Some people are just too toxic to bother with, no matter how big the payday.
A Democrat involved in a scandal? I thought this happened only in the Republican party!
WASHINGTON —
Rep. John Conyers, D-Michigan, has stepped down as ranking member of House Judiciary Committee amid a congressional investigation into sexual harassment and workplace abuse allegations by his former staffers.
Flimsy - I don't remember her saying that but I could have missed it, being so gobsmacked by the fact that she isn't locked
up in a rubber room somewhere. Their intention was to get Ramsey to film KN in their establishment so that he could dispel all the terrible reviews they were getting on Yelp, etc. When he told her the truth, she did the death ray eyes on him like Kate does and went batshit. The whole thing backfired on her and Sammy. Too funny!
I wouldn't put it past some producer to make a reality show of that trainwreck, though. Nothing surprises me anymore.
I was watching TLC last night, and I swear Kate was on in their TLC ads..very briefly..so briefly I didn't catch what she said either time. It was either her or a very good look alike. Did anyone else see her?
Winsome (114)
Kate is in one of their ads--I can't remember what it's for, but she says, "You mean no one has told you?". It was a clip from long ago--she's wearing the same shirt as the one she wore in their last promo pics, which were taken back when Collin was still there. So that was from at least a year and a half ago.
Prince Harry is engaged! Awww, I love a good romantic story. Meghan is American, divorced, Catholic, and of mixed race. Just a few years ago, this could never have
happened. The royal family has come a long way.
Where are the other 11 pies and why... when I make apple pie it doesn't look like canned apples? The newest photo is canned apple and I only know this because I make apple pie all the time using fresh and my cousin uses canned apples....
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Maybe she put the "11" pies on top of the garbage can lid for the garbage men, like she did her World Famous Cinnamon Buns"!
There is no way the kids were with her this weekend.
They were with Jon.
So, now she's down to Pies, Pups and her own private Pergatory.
I normally don't wish awful things to happen to people but TFW did this to herself.
Flimsy @ 111
I forgot to add this link to my comment. It may not be a reality show, but it could turn into a regular Saturday morning looney tunes show;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BfD8L1euBuk
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Flimsy @ 111
I forgot to add this link to my comment. It may not be a reality show, but it could turn into a regular Saturday morning looney tunes show;
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Remember years ago, TFW tried to get a Gosselin animated cartoon game going on iTunes or some other system? I think it was around the beginning of iTunes.
Instead of embarrassing her kids forever, why not just buy stock in the company and keep them out of it?
Years ago, a woman near TFW discovered that workers working at the fracking oil sites were having a hard time getting the right suits, clothes, hats, gloves to wear to work and they were paying a lot of money for them.
She opened up a little shop after getting word of what the workers actually needed and had catalogs to order from. They were so thankful.
The woman made millions off of this.
Just another moneymaking idea without HER using THE kids working to make it for HER and HER only!
GollyGee (118)
Kate will never do anything that requires sustained effort on her part. Example: Teami and that box delivery thing she mentioned on her IG a few months ago, then never mentioned again. My teen niece was showing me Bristol Palin's IG (Bristol has the Louis Vuitton handbag that my niece is saving to buy and she wanted to show it to me). Bristol has been consistently promoting the season box and Teami for at least a year, and regularly posts pictures and answers question about both. It's apparent that she is making some money off this, or she wouldn't bother. Kate could be making money off it, too, but she's too lazy to put any actual effort into it. Just like all those other things she has mentioned on Twitter or IG, and then dropped when they didn't make her millions immediately. BP is a lot younger than Kate, but she understands the value of sustained effort. Just look at how much better she did at DWTS. She worked hard, Kate put in as little effort as possible. Who went farther? Bristol, even though Kate was the darling of the day at that time. Kate is perfectly happy to sit around and expect her kids to provide for her rather than lift a finger to support herself (or them).
GollyGee 118 - there are a couple of reasons why Kate wouldn't succeed in that kind of enterprise. One, it wouldn't put her mug on tv - which has always been her ultimate goal and two, it requires perseverance, patience and skill. Kate has none of those qualities. She has a mile-wide lazy streak. In all the years she's been on tv the most work she's done is to pack suitcases for a TLC-paid vacation or unpack comped gifts. Even then she moans and complains about it. She always needs a helper to assist her through everything she does. When you stop to think about it, has she ever actually been seen doing "work" other than cleaning the fridge with Q-tip?
How. can. anyone. support. anything. Trump. does.
HOW?? The 'pocahontas' situation todayis sickening. Nausea-inducing, stomach hurting, rage inducing RACISM.
How can Republicans reconcile the absolute bigotry this 'man' exudes and still support him as POTUS?
For the love of God - can anyone explain this to me?
She opened up a little shop after getting word of what the workers actually needed and had catalogs to order from. They were so thankful.
The woman made millions off of this.
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Do you have a link to that story...that she had millions in revenue? I don't remember any of that. Did she live near Kate?
Kate posted a “braces off” pic of Leah, but Leah has clear braces on her teeth still. No wire but she definitely has the brackets on her teeth.
So Leah got her braces off. And apparently okayed the photo? A number of comments about how much she looks like K8. I don't see it.
kateplusmy8 Somebody got their braces off today! 😁😁😁 #CongratsLeah #BracesOffParty #GosselinTradition #BracesOnBracesOffConstantHere
How. can. anyone. support. anything. Trump. does.
HOW?? The 'pocahontas' situation todayis sickening. Nausea-inducing, stomach hurting, rage inducing RACISM.
How can Republicans reconcile the absolute bigotry this 'man' exudes and still support him as POTUS?
For the love of God - can anyone explain this to me?
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For those of us who work within the parameters of the Indian Child Welfare Act and have personally worked directly with Native Americans, their tribes, the tribe attorneys and tribe reps, someone claiming to be Native American when they don't even come close to the blood quantum required and cannot provide any proof besides stories--is very insulting and disrespectful. "Family lore" does not count under the law, the CA Court of Appeal has said so and our own U.S. Supreme Court has weighed in on this issue, and unless you really qualify as a member, it is extremely disrespectful to claim such ancestry. That said, I see no point in engaging and poking at someone doing this. Sadly, such theft of other people's cultures happens a lot, and it's not necessary anyone else help their idiocy along. I dealt with it growing up in an Italian American family. People would claim this ancestry when they either couldn't prove it or didn't even have it. It's upsetting when you know your own grandparents risked everything to flee Fascist Italy and come here and then nearly broke their backs working themselves to the bone to make it, one dying within a couple years of a heart attack. But you can only shrug and move on, it's not worth engaging. I'm glad to know now it's racist to call such people out on STEALING someone else's culture, duly noted.
I recently had the opportunity to work directly with the MHA nation/three tribes, and they are an absolute delight. I have had very rich experiences with ICWA.
Lanc Native, that article was several years ago, she made a couple of million. She did really good.
I just did a quick Google to try to find it and I can't find it.
Most of the articles on google were about how the fracking has seeped into the water system in PA and that is not good. Lawsuits and settling lawsuits. 🙁
His behavior will be defended here in 5...4...3...2...1
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I don't see anyone defending the behavior. In fact I specifically said I don't see the point in poking her. But then, Trump is a living troll, and trolls poke to get a reaction. He got the reaction you wanted. You played right into it, you're one of them engaging back. Guilty. I'm not sure how many times he needs to "poke" and you respond to realize he's just playing you. Lol.
But, two wrongs don't make a right. They're both wrong. Trump is wrong for teasing her with the name calling, she's wrong to claim a proud and important culture as her own. She has long used her fake culture to try to get ahead, and she was caught in college suddenly claiming the heritage when she never did before to try to get ahead on playing the minority angle. That is terribly offensive and pretty unethical in my view. They're both pretty despicable in their own ways, and she herself has been heavily criticized for what she has done. There's a lot about her I don't mind, but that's not one of it.
I prefer to call her out for what she does in a manner that prompts discussion and debate of important issues. But that's just me.
I watched the Harry-Meghan interview in full. She is everything Kate wishes she could be. She was funny and engaging, relaxed, interesting, found all the right words to say about sensitive issues like his mom not being around. I was terribly impressed, he has picked well. She's far more interesting than the duchess, who while nice seems rather square.
Now they just need to GO away. Who do you think pays for these extravagant weddings - shutting down businesses and public areas and basically acting like they're, well, royal. Please. They're no better or worse than the average working bloke in England.
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If they go away, GB will lose hundreds of millions of dollars in tourism. That is worth shutting down the streets for ONE DAY, once in each boy's lifetime.
They also contribute an incredible amount to charity. A charity who books them for ONE DAY a year can make their whole goals in one night.
I'm not okay with getting rid of that.
Also, I'm almost certain I read that Kate's parents paid a huge chunk of her wedding to William and Charles contributed too. They are independently wealthy and so is Charles.
Trump basically used the 'n' word in front of AA heroes. There. Does that drive home to you how SICK he is?
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It was totally inappropriate and pretty awkward, but I think you are getting way too upset. Pocahontas is an important historical figure. I think it's pretty disrespectful to imply that is akin to the "N" word. You are so upset that you are not thinking clearly, and blowing this way out of proportion.
People who elected him knew exactly what his personality was, that was no big surprise. The only surprising thing is to watch people faint dead away every time he says yet another offensive thing just like he always has done. He was saying things like this 10, 20 years ago (see his feud with Rosie ODonnell), he said things like this during the election and he's continued to do so. What makes you think that would change? I get it, you don't like it. I'm sorry it upsets you, but now you know how so many of us have felt for the past 8 years. Sucks, doesn't it? You get through it and you get your chance to elect somebody you want next time. So, basically, time to grow up.
You're ignorant of the royals. Sorry but what you said isn't correct AT ALL. Links to come..
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I don't know whether Im proud or embarrassed to say I bet I follow them more closely than most people. I've read several books on them among other things like blogs and watched things like interviews and the couple documentaries the family has made. It's my guilty pleasure and I own it. A big source of mine is Penny Junor. I read her book on William cover to cover last month mostly on the flight back from London. It's something like 1000 pages and well cited. She is a very well respected royal scholar, fond of them but not afraid to criticize. You don't have to do a research project, I'm sure you could find "links" that contradict her and I'm sure she's aware of that but has formed her own opinion and research. Just saying that's my source for what I know of the wedding. She has also done a good job documenting just how very, very important the boys are to the charities they are patrons of. Like there are charities that would never make it without them, that's well established. We're talking easily a billion dollars between the two of them, minimum value. I'm not sure why you would want to rob those charities of this huge value.
I've also read a lot of Kitty Kelly, but I think she's sort of moved on from how closely she used to document them.
GollyGee said: "Years ago, a woman near TFW discovered that workers working at the fracking oil sites were having a hard time getting the right suits, clothes, hats, gloves to wear to work and they were paying a lot of money for them. "
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Was this before the internet? These things are readily available with a quick Google search. If they were ordering from catalogs from her they'd pay the same price that they'd pay ordering them online. I don't get how she'd become a millionaire just by acting as a middle man.
Jill Duggar tweeted a picture of herself with a nose piercing. It may just be a stick-on, but People picked up the story.
Perhaps TFW should give that a try. Between that and her gardening, they could call the first new episode (if she ever gets renewed) "A Piercing And A Pepper."
CC,
It's probably a clear retainer..
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Anonymous said... 134
CC,
It's probably a clear retainer..
-LA
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If it's a clear retainer why is she eating all that junk with the retainer in? I pinched open the picture and it kind of looks like it's on each individual tooth. Maybe more braces to come?
Now that C is away, are his dental issues someone else's problem? Does he get new clothes and shoes to fit his growing body? Does anyone talk to him about other physical changes he might not understand?
C is a sensitive, troubled teenage boy, away from his home and family and everything he's ever known or loved. But his mother blithely posts away about parties and traditions -- minus one -- as if he was a houseplant she gave away to someone else to care for, and never gave another thought to.
Anonymous said... 134
CC,
It's probably a clear retainer..
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Retainers don't have brackets glued to each tooth.
@just watching Please explain how that's racist and yet i've seen democrats on twitter who've tweeted things like"Kill all white people or white should die"is not racist?
I think Leah will have more braces, like Mady and Hannah. Her smile looks great but she didn't have them on that long. Maybe a year? I think braces again will make her smile even prettier.
just watching said... 121
How. can. anyone. support. anything. Trump. does.
HOW?? The 'pocahontas' situation todayis sickening. Nausea-inducing, stomach hurting, rage inducing RACISM.
How can Republicans reconcile the absolute bigotry this 'man' exudes and still support him as POTUS?
For the love of God - can anyone explain this to me?
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Nobody who posts here will. Anyone who is not a Trump sycophant has moved on, having been belittled and insulted for not supporting someone who is not supported by the majority of the population. Ironically he is a narcissist just like Kate, and the people left here are like Kate fans in that he can do no wrong.
I meant to add, not that these will be posted, that those men are American heroes. They helped a nation who stole their land and they helped save democracy and did not deserve to be subjected to Trump's digression during what should have been a tribute to THEM. Conservatives seem to have nothing but anger and hatred toward anyone who is not like them. They have no vision of their own. Family values? Out the window. Reduce debt? No more. No more personal responsibility. Just attack attack attack
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If you’re a former poster how can you still be reading and posting here? Lol.
No one said the comments were appropriate. In fact just the opposite, what was said is they were totally inappropriate. Not a single person here disagreed with you!. I agreed with you, so now what’s the problem?? But even when I agree with your lot I’m still spoken to as if I disagree. All that says to me is you are not truly interested in a discussion and finding common ground on very important issues. You just want to argue, troll and find fault, sprinkling in nasty comments like racist and bigot. That is troll behavior, not blog discussion behavior. A spade a spade.
I’ll say it again, this nonsense is why. You. Lost.
Nobody who posts here will. Anyone who is not a Trump sycophant has moved on, having been belittled and insulted for not supporting someone who is not supported by the majority of the population.
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OMG, you do realize that most of the population didn't vote, don't you?
Please tell me you realize that only some 137MM people voted and the population of the U.S. is ~ 324MM.
If you're trying to convey, albeit clumsily, that Hillary won the popular vote; that and $1 will get you a cup of coffee at McDonalds.
HOW?? The 'pocahontas' situation todayis sickening. Nausea-inducing, stomach hurting, rage inducing RACISM.
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Trump made a royal ass out of himself with that comment. It was so inappropriate to bring in his feud with Warren into the event.
That said, I hope you have an equal amount of outrage that pretty, intelligent, blonde-haired and blue-eyed woman appropriated the culture of one of the most oppressed people in America, and used it to her advantage for YEARS.
Now, that's offensive.
Tucker's Mom...Yup. Only 59.7% of registered voters voted in the 2016 presidential election. That's pretty sad. I didn't like either candidate but I voted. I have to say, however, our retirement accounts look awesome!
After the internet. I am probably wrong about the catalog. But, she made some really good money. She put effort into it and that is why she succeeded.
The only things TFW succeeded in keeping her mug on tv was catching that first bottle of lightning and being on camera for years and expects to have another bottle full of lightning to get her back on tv, she got rid of Jon with the first bottle.
The second bottle of lightning helped her get rid of Collin so she could still keep her mug on tv and the checks flowing through her fingers into her pocket purse, the one that she said had all of her bills inside of and that she couldn't drop them off in the mail.
I honestly believe that a lot of fans and people sent her money when she said that to help her out!
Leah looks so much like Mady in the recent pic Kate posted on Instagram.
The royal family has said they will personally pay for the wedding not the tax payers. They have millions upon millions from various business endeavors that has nothing to do with taxpayers. I hope that settles any naysayers who don’t like this. For the minor inconvenience of a few quiet streets in Windsor closed the tourism will give back millions in return.
I’ve never really followed the Royal’s but I’m looking forward to this wedding. Maybe it’s because I’m a fan of Suits. I wonder how they’re going to write her out of the show.
capecodmama and Tucker's Mom,
I didn't like either candidate--I still wonder two the heck we ended up with two such awful candidates. But--I appreciate someone finally taking a strong stance in dealing with North Korea, and I'm loving the surge in our retirement and investment accounts. It's true that Trump says the wrong thing far too often, I won't argue with that. An old friend just announced that he has accepted a position in Trump's administration (he can't say what his position is until it is formally announced), and he's a solid, smart, dynamic guy. He'll be a good addition to the administration no matter what position it is. I'm still dying to find out, but I have to wait like everyone else.
Yet another IG post from Kate. They're coming so close together now--seems to me like she's dying for attention and adulation from the mediocre masses. Must not be filming then. I'm thinking about when the fan asked if the show would be coming back this fall, and she answered that she hopes so, but she doesn't choose the airing schedule. She made it sound like there are episodes ready to go, it's just a matter of finding an opening on the airing schedule for them to be shown. But...I don' think they have any more episodes ready to go, or they would have just added them to the 3 episodes that aired during the summer. Another example of Kate-speak. She words things so that she's not technically lying, but creates a certain impression that she desperately wants people to believe.
I'm waiting for a sheeple to ask if TFMJG will be going to the royal wedding. I distinctly remember one of the sheeple excusing TFMJG silence on Twitter? by asking if she was at William & Kate's wedding.
And now it's Matt Lauer who is fired. I just wish someone would identify the term 'inappropriate sexual behavior'. Is it some women who hate men that find this just too irresistible to not jump on the bandwagon? There is just no way that all these women were actually 'harassed' to the extent that are coming forward and destroying people's lives. As my son said this morning, the world of men and women meeting and dating as we have known it is history. I agree. For the women out there who have truly been harassed I have nothing but sympathy. But I do not believe it is nearly as widespread as is being seen right now. JMO
And now Matt Lauer has been fired. I have never been a particular fan of his but what the hell is going on in this country. Why are so many women jumping on the bandwagon about this. Are they all men haters? And lives are being destroyed and humiliated. As my son said this morning the world as we knew it is dead. How many men are going to approach women now? I happen to agree. I am sorry for the women who have actually been assaulted, they deserve every sympathy that can be given. But it is just out of control at this point. JMO
James Vader, here in our city a leading black woman said all blacks should boycott any white company this holiday season. If that isn't racist I don't know what is.
What a shock this morning to tune into the Today show at 7am and top of the news they reported is their own Matt Lauer was fired overnight, for allegations of sexual misconduct.
Wow. Just like that.
Really, I can't say that it's a total shocker, given his rep as a womanizer and serial philanderer. But, still, I thought his dalliances were all consensual and didn't peg him as a harasser or worse.
I've thought for a long time that the rumors about Lauer and Natalie Morales were true, especially when she took a tabloid tv job on the West Coast a couple years ago.
There was a time Kate thought she would be on the Royal invite list!
Ya know, she and Diana have so much in common!
The only word I've heard to describe the Matt Lauer incident is "allegations." Not even true allegations.
It is a little concerning that someone need come forward only with allegations and you're fired. Typically in places I've worked there is an HR protocol for any complaints about someone, sexual or non-sexual. If serious enough, it usually involves pulling you off the line while they are investigated by independent investigators, but you are still given work to do. The person accused is allowed to tell their story to investigators and make their case, as well as the accusers. Then they come to conclusions and recommendations. I've only once seen someone fired just like that and it was over something very serious with multiple witnesses.
Either they are very confident this story is true, or they are jumping on the bandwagon and want to make a point to take a firm stance on sexual harassment.
I really hope it's not the second. Like so many things that happen in our culture, there comes a tipping point where often things go too far, people get too carried away. Let's take allegations seriously and foster environments where women will disclose them, but let's not forget about due process either. I would hate to get to the point where a woman, or even a man, can use a false sexual claim as simply a way to get someone fired they don't like. That's frightening. They've put us at a severe disadvantage not even telling us, or apparently even their colleagues, what this one entails.
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And now it's Matt Lauer who is fired. I just wish someone would identify the term 'inappropriate sexual behavior'
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Although Lauer is a serial cheater and I think, more of a jerk as time goes on (don't get why he's worth so much money to NBC), I never got the impression he was an aggressor.
This seemed to happen overnight. I really wonder when NBC was told and how much investigation they did. It is also possible that Lauer admitted what he did, and that sealed the deal.
Maybe Lauer was offered a parachute and took it, knowing it could get worse.
All speculation.
I do understand the concern about the avalanche of accusations. The thing is, I don't know how to make this fair!
Women should be believed, but then, shouldn't men?
This whole #metoo has become a runaway train and due process has been left behind at the station.
I think we need to codify and standardize, and QUICK.
I do understand the concern about the avalanche of accusations. The thing is, I don't know how to make this fair!
Women should be believed, but then, shouldn't men?
This whole #metoo has become a runaway train and due process has been left behind at the station.
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I find it sad to watch how people will bend like a willow in the wind. If the climate suggests ACCEPT ALL REPORTS AND FIRE ALL ACCUSED, they will do so. If the climate says cover up, they will do so.
A better approach is to balance it, and have firm and consistent protocols in place. Consultants are a dime a dozen out there and could help any workplace set up a fair and balanced due process investigation approach to accusations. Like I said, anyone who works should be very uncomfortable that mere allegations can get you fired without a chance to have a full investigation.
If there was a full investigation into Matt Lauer, they're not saying so. If the allegations were found to be true or even likely true, they're not saying so. His colleagues seem totally in the dark, which is a red flag this was sudden and no meaningful investigation could have possibly taken place or they would have been interviewed.
Meanwhile, Franklin is still smugly sitting at this post. When will his supporters acknowledge this is not any different than all the other people who got fired? If not worse, as there is actual evidence of this one anyone can look at. It is NOT a he said she said situation. Double standard.
Oh and I've also seen workplaces given the person being accused a fair chance to reform. For instance if tempers flared to the point of being inappropriate, the person might be offered an anger management class to do and therapy to help them rehabilitate themselves. I've seen this work with great success and people who otherwise might have been fired have been able to reform themselves and become truly great colleagues and offer great contributions. Let's all take a deep breath.
A LITTLE opportunity for redemption, in some cases, may be warranted.
Meanwhile, Franklin is still smugly sitting at this post. When will his supporters acknowledge this is not any different than all the other people who got fired? If not worse, as there is actual evidence of this one anyone can look at. It is NOT a he said she said situation. Double standard.
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Franken, in his mealy-mouthed apology, still refused to admit that he stuck his tongue down Tweeden's throat, and only alluded to "remembering it differently".
I thought he had a lot of gall to stand there and say he was going back to work, as if he is assured he's untouchable and only need step down when HE decides to do so.
Franken assumed he gets a second chance and that assumption was pretty damn presumptuous.
What privilege and entitlement.
Posting seems a bit glitchy this morning. I'm getting Google error messages, but my posts seem to be going through.
I might be just me.
I think, going forward, it's going to be hard to firmly distinguish "sexual harassment" based on unwelcome sexual advances versus misogynists who downgrade, humiliate, or otherwise diminish women in the workplace based on their gender. I have experienced both in the workplace, and while there's a clear difference in my head, I think the term sexual harassment often encompasses both. Matt Lauer may not have sexually harassed Ann Curry (i.e., made advances on her person), but she was almost certainly harassed by him in a misogynistic way. And the use of "sexual harassment" has, up to the present, included both of these very different activities. IMO, both are worthy of censure and punishment, and both are against the law, but we all need to be very clear what we're talking about.
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Great post. I got the same sense about Lauer and Curry. I loved Ann Curry and got the sense she was getting forced out by Lauer.
It's almost like Curry got blackballed all together.
They found some ancient statement from Katie couric saying Lauer pinched her ass all the time. At the time the story didn’t make news. Ew.
That said the network got the allegations Monday night so they spent less than 24 hours investigating. Even if he did it that should concern Everyone.
Hmmm, NBC passed on Ronan Farrow's bombshell about Weinstein. Now that the allegation about Matt Lauer has been reported, resulting in his firing, makes me wonder if the earlier decision about passing on Ronan Farrow's work might have been because NBC could have been aware they might have similar "stories" in their closet.
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Hmmm, NBC passed on Ronan Farrow's bombshell about Weinstein. Now that the allegation about Matt Lauer has been reported, resulting in his firing, makes me wonder if the earlier decision about passing on Ronan Farrow's work might have been because NBC could have been aware they might have similar "stories" in their closet.
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BM I think you’ve found the smoking gun.
Did you catch the part of their statement where they said although other incidents have not been reported they have reason to believe this was not the first time? I think they said too much by revealing that. Are they implying they had prior knowledge he was a problem? Yipe.
That said the network got the allegations Monday night so they spent less than 24 hours investigating. Even if he did it that should concern Everyone.
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I have a little theory that Lauer copped to the accusation(s) when confronted with evidence or perhaps the specifics, and donned his parachute and voluntarily jumped.
Variety and the NYT were both working on a story about Lauer, and maybe NBC jumped to get ahead of it breaking.
Also remember, NBC sat on Ronan Farrow's Harvey Weinstein story. Afraid of the dominos falling onto their own??
I am dubious that NBC never had a complaint, or any sense about Lauer perhaps crossing the line from philandering and sleeping with subordinates, to harassment and even assault.
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Hmmm, NBC passed on Ronan Farrow's bombshell about Weinstein. Now that the allegation about Matt Lauer has been reported, resulting in his firing, makes me wonder if the earlier decision about passing on Ronan Farrow's work might have been because NBC could have been aware they might have similar "stories" in their closet.
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I just posted the same thing ;-)
Remember, Farrow was adamant that his story was vetted fully, and good to go. He was not some dilettante as NBC would have people believe.
Farrow is sharp and very good at what he does.
Susan1956 (149)Oh my gosh, I remember that! Kate went twitter silent for a couple days, and the sheeple took her silence as a super-secret-coded message to them that she was a the royal wedding. That was a hoot! As if the royals would ever stoop to even acknowledge her existence, let alone invite her to an event like that! HA! (P.S., Sheeple--just so you know, Kate won't be invited to the upcoming royal wedding. I wouldn't want you to get your hopes up).
I think they said too much by revealing that. Are they implying they had prior knowledge he was a problem? Yipe.
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I think NBC was as someone on tv just said, "lifting the lid" so to speak. Let the steam out before the top blows off.
I think you’re right ladies. NBC is trying to get ahead of the bombshell and play offense, not defense, and it’s a good possibility Matt agreed to step aside, with possibly a nice fat confidential severance. They already had egg on their face about Weinstein, and there was speculation here they didn’t want to jump aboard the Weinstein train because they were covering something else up. What at the time we didn’t know.
Yes Admin, NBC's statement that they have "reason to believe..etc." is very telling. I hope Ronan Farrow is Time's Person of the Year, as well as receiving a Pulitzer Prize.
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I think it goes without saying that there's NO way Lauer would suffer financially from his dismissal. It would be great if NBC had to explain the terms of his departure to their shareholders. Hell, it would be great if our own Congress would explain the terms of their "settlements" on behalf of Conyers (and no doubt many others) to the American taxpayer.
I feel bad for Lauer's children, but not for him. He has had more opportunity, money and power than most people on earth will ever have. If these allegations are true, and at this point, I think they are, Lauer showed great hubris by using his position and power to hurt women.
Did you catch the part of their statement where they said although other incidents have not been reported they have reason to believe this was not the first time? I think they said too much by revealing that. Are they implying they had prior knowledge he was a problem? Yipe
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Yes! I wasn't sure that I heard it correctly. Seems they are dropping like flies (no pun intended) in the media/entertainment/political arena. So many attorneys now on speed dial.
Who is next?
It's irritating to think that Lauer will get a settlement after what he did. Why should they have to give him money when he behaved in such an abhorrent manner? You'd think his victims should be the ones getting a settlement, not him. But of course, he will be given enough cash to live out his days without financial stress. Which just goes to show you that bad behavior pays, and pays well.
More info coming out about Matt Lauer, and it's not good. He had a button under his desk to auto-lock his office door.
WTH?
Who approved that? Who turned a blind eye?
NBC full of crap..they never had another complaint about Lauer in 20 years. C'mon.
Exposing himself.
Lewd texts.
Lewd "screw, marry or kill" games.
Giving sex toys with vivid descriptions of how he's use them on the woman.
Exposing himself.
Lewd texts.
Lewd "screw, marry or kill" games.
Giving sex toys with vivid descriptions of how he's use them on the woman.
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Oh my god!!
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Exposing himself.
Lewd texts.
Lewd "screw, marry or kill" games.
Giving sex toys with vivid descriptions of how he's use them on the woman.
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Oh my god!!
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Admin, are you serious? MATT LAUER!?!
To have all of that power, money, homes, life, beautiful wife and sons, healthy and throw it all away on something this STUPID and VILE!
You did it to yourself, Matt!
Celebrity Net Worth: 60 Million
Leah looks so much like Mady in the recent pic Kate posted on Instagram.
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The sheeple comment that Leah looks like Kate. Leah looks NOTHING like Kate. Of course, awhile back they were saying that Mady looks like Kate. I wondered at the time exactly what they were smoking.
Tweet from Corey Feldman: HMMMMM INTERESTING.....THIS MIGHT EXPLAIN THE HOSTILE INTERVIEW WHILE I WAS TRYING 2 EXPOSE THE TRUTH....EH MATT?
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Yes Admin, NBC's statement that they have "reason to believe..etc." is very telling. I hope Ronan Farrow is Time's Person of the Year, as well as receiving a Pulitzer Prize.
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I think he should be. When you're talking about who created the biggest lasting dent in society in 2017, for better or worse, it's Ronan.
And yes, I do think he should be nominated for a Pulitzer.
The double standard is yours. You blather on about due process while simultaneously screaming that Al Franken should be forced to step down this MINUTE.
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Um, right, so Al Frankin is a politician. A public servant who was elected by the people and took an oath. APPLES AND ORANGES.
Matt Lauer is a stupid little news anchor on a stupid show. That is his employment. He is neither elected by people nor owes any special duty like public servants do. I do think he should get his due process and the conclusion will probably be the same, but he still deserves it as all of us in the private sector do. I do not think the same sort of kid gloves should be afforded to politicians. If the evidence is there, like in a PHOTO, then get out of office. Now. It is not a "double standard." It's simply two completely different types of jobs, one involving public service and representation, the other involving sitting at a desk blabbing about celebs and the daily news. I can't possibly equate the two.
IT's not just you Tucker, posts are VERY glitchy. Some of mine are not going through at all or going through late. This has been going on about 24 hours. Blogger is usually on top of issues like this so hopefully it'll be resolved in short order.
I just read that Matt Lauer's accuser had an explicit photo and lewd text messages from him to backup her story, and that Matt's assistant had to help her get to a doctor after the assault. Wow. I remember an interview he did with Christie Brinkley where he had her in tears, he was so mean to her. That man is sadistic and he deserves everything he gets.
Kate made her famous Jon is mediocre comment to Matt Lauer.
You certainly haven't called for Roy Moore's head on a platter; in fact, you defended Trump for saying Moore is better than the evil Democrat opposing him. So, pedophilia by a public servant is OK when you support the person's political views, but a tasteless photo is grounds for immediate removal from office. Got it. Nope, no hypocrisy in your stance whatsoever.
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What in the world are you talking about? I do and have called for Roy Moore's head on a platter, how did you miss THAT? He is a child predator who should step down. Not sure how I can be any clearer. I still am intrigued by his absolute insistence one of the victims is lying and I invite him to prove her wrong, but until then I have a bad, bad feeling about it. Go back and read the discussion again.
I never once defended Trump for defending Moore, nor did Trump defend Moore in the first place. That story you tried to peddle died a quick death because your headline was completely inaccurate as the media and you trolls tends to be. You clearly didn't READ what he said and thought for yourself about it, you simply read your liberal headline and followed your leaders on the summary of what you said. Big mistake. And you were flat out wrong.. All Trump said was that it's rather interesting Moore is pretty adamant this is all untrue (it is rather interesting) and that Trump's not fond of the alternative, that the alternative scares him. Fair enough, it scares me too. Just because Moore is a predator doesn't mean the other guy is a good candidate. Why in the world you would assume someone's concerns about one guy mean they are backing the other, is beyond me. Surely you can understand that concept. Lots of people hated Hillary, did that automatically mean they supported Trump? Don't be absurd.
What wasn't reported was the very next comment Trump made when he was discussing Moore, which was that all these allegations coming out are a good thing and he's supportive of women coming forward. Your lot doesn't like to report things like that because it doesn't fit your agenda. Why won't you discuss that comment? Why isn't that making news. You would rather lie. So transparent.
It's been reported the Queen will attend Harry's wedding, which is the first time in history the monarch will attend a wedding for someone who had been previously divorced. She didn't even attend her own son's wedding. A watershed moment.
And again they emphasized the family is paying out of pocket for everything, flowers to reception to church fees. Not a twopence will come from taxpayers.
I remember an interview he did with Christie Brinkley where he had her in tears, he was so mean to her.
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Layla, I remember that interview - it was brutal. He seemed to take joy in bullying her.
I just watched some clips of him on the Today show talking about all these other stories about sexual assault allegations. The one where he was almost berating Corey Feldman is very telling of his teflon-like confidence that he'd never be outed for his own behavior... "What are you doing here? Why aren't you talking to the police?".
Did he think he'd be protected from retribution for his own actions?
I wonder if he's still invited to the company Christmas party this year or will he have some dirt on others at the Today Show. He seems like the type that won't go down without taking others with him.
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I remember an interview he did with Christie Brinkley where he had her in tears, he was so mean to her.
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Layla, I remember that interview - it was brutal. He seemed to take joy in bullying her.
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Layla and Auntie, I recall that too. It was brutal! I remember thinking, "WTH??? Is Matt best buds with her narc husband?".
They all rub elbows in their posh lives in the Hamptons, so I really wondered if Lauer had something personal against Brinkley.
It was personal and totally unprofessional. Not even Kate gets treated like that, so I have no idea wth Lauer was thinking.
Each time Lauer interviewed Sandra Bullock, I though his level of familiarity and liberties he took with his smarmy interviews was inappropriate and left me thinking that Matt though himself quite the Casanova.
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It's been reported the Queen will attend Harry's wedding, which is the first time in history the monarch will attend a wedding for someone who had been previously divorced. She didn't even attend her own son's wedding. A watershed moment.
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I think it's because the boys are who they are and have somehow managed to mesh being a Royal with being a citizen of the current world.
It can be easy to do that, either.
Harry and Will could easily have turned out to be entitled jerks who live behind glass walls, live ridiculously lavish lives, slide by on the minimum of duties, but I think it's their mother that forever instilled her values and purpose in them.
In a statement from Matt Lauer read on the Today show just now, Lauer basically owns it. Good for him on that. He stated some aspects are mischaracterized, but quickly said that the big picture is TRUE.
So, there we have why this all went down so quickly and as we thought, Lauer couldn't deny the allegations and parachuted out for his sake and NBC's, before more came out.
I still say there's no way this was the first time in 25 years that TPTB at NBC got or heard of a complaint.
So, I'll predict firing amongst the higher ups at NBC in an effort to clean house and make a good show of changing their culture, which obviously allowed Lauer to go unchecked all these years.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/business/matt-lauer-new-zealand.html
And so it continues for Matt Lauer. Here's part of the article.
"A New Zealand government agency said on Thursday that it was in discussions with Mr. Lauer’s representative over his purchase of a 16,000-acre farm there. Foreigners must pass a good-character test to be allowed to buy New Zealand land, and while Mr. Lauer’s purchase was approved earlier this year, the country’s Overseas Investment Office is revisiting his case in light of his firing.
Officials from that agency “are seeking further information,” said Lisa Barrett, a spokeswoman for the agency. The agency can require buyers to dispose of the property if it believes the rules have been violated."
and it continues...
"Mr. Lauer’s purchase of the lease caused controversy in New Zealand. Recreation groups were upset that he was not forced to allow public access through the lakeside property to the neighboring Hawea Conservation Park."
Harry and Will could easily have turned out to be entitled jerks who live behind glass walls, live ridiculously lavish lives, slide by on the minimum of duties, but I think it's their mother that forever instilled her values and purpose in them.
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Shows how formative those early years of childhood are. Harry was only 12 when she died but in 12 short years she shaped who he is today. And, by all accounts Charles has been a very loving father who stepped up to the plate big time to ensure they got as much love and support after she was gone as possible. He doesn’t usually get a lot of credit nor seeks it, but he is a true single dad who handled the worst thing that could possibly happen to your children with quiet grace and determination. It’s been said the three of them though absolutely devastated were adamant the tragedy not ruin their lives.
They did not say that the family would be paying for security, so stating that "not a twopence" will come from taxpayers is not true.
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Bahh humbug!!
They said everything, absolutely everything, so I don’t know why you’re making an assumption that wouldn’t include paying for any extra security too.
And even if it didn’t.
It’s one freaking day in the young man’s life. The British people are and will continue to be paid back by the billions in tourism. No one cares about that dreary unremarkable place but for its rich history including modern royals. Otherwise they’d be just a footnote, a flyover country to get to the good parts of Europe like Italy and France.
They did not say that the family would be paying for security, so stating that "not a twopence" will come from taxpayers is not true.
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I'd like to believe that the taxpayers will feel a lot safer if there IS extra security even if it is coming out of their own pockets. There will be thousands upon thousands of people swarming the streets that day so odds are there wil be more than a few nutjobs among them. Good lord, who would not want more police presence especailly in this day and age of increased risk of terrorism?
Quick question or two. Why is this troll still posting here, baiting, insulting, eager for a response just to argue and be fed?
Secondly, one of Lauer's accusers said that he forced her to bend over and he had sex with her, she passed out, and he called for his assistant to take her to the hospital, which was done. In this case, aren't the police called, a rape test is done and charges filed? IF this were rape, shouldn't it have been prosecuted as such, and has the SOL passed? Could he be charged, tried, and land in prison?
I'd like to believe that the taxpayers will feel a lot safer if there IS extra security even if it is coming out of their own pockets
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I would think so, too, and wonder if this is a Royal subject or your usual hater?
Brits seem to adore their Royals and especially weddings which they might only get to see a couple times in their lifetimes.
Bah Humbug, indeed!
Secondly, one of Lauer's accusers said that he forced her to bend over and he had sex with her, she passed out, and he called for his assistant to take her to the hospital, which was done. In this case, aren't the police called, a rape test is done and charges filed? IF this were rape, shouldn't it have been prosecuted as such, and has the SOL passed? Could he be charged, tried, and land in prison?
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This one is stunning. A woman passes out while Lauer is having sex with her (unsure of how aggressive he was or cooperative she was) and no one thinks twice about wtf actually happened to her?
There's no fricking way that Lauer's behavior went unnoticed.
When I watched live yesterday at 7am, Savannah Guthrie looked truly shell shocked....Hoda Kotb, no so much.
RIP Gomer Pyle.
Last night the ID channel had a 2 hour documentary on Scott Peterson. Even though I have followed this case obsessively and I have read most of the books written about the murder, I learned new information.
The documentary also included current interviews with some who were involved.
I am looking forward to another true crime program on ID Final Vision 12/10. The account of Jeffery McDonald's trial.
Sometimes those darn misplaced modifiers are funny...
"Bette Midler Accused Geraldo Rivera of Groping Her in a 1991 Interview With Barbara Walters"
If he groped her in an interview, wouldn't that be on video? That was kind of bold of him to do that, wasn't it? :)
Dmasy, did the doc have new information toward Scott's innocence or guilt? I hope guilt because that pile of you know killed Lacy and Conner.
He is exactly where he belongs. All he has to do is look out the window from the San Quentin prison out into the Pacific Ocean exactly where Lacy and Conner came up at.
And that was the exact place where Scott said he had been fishing. Guess he thought those homemade concrete blocks he made in those 5 gallon buckets would hold her down forever.
Golly, he does have a court appointed attorney filing for a new trail based on new evidence. So, far no ruling on that filing.
I learned that Laci's body had two broken ribs. I had never heard that before. Also, they found two small spots of blood on the white comforter on the bed. Both spots belonged to Scott. There were speculations on just how she might have been killed that I had never heard.
There were several new photos and videos of Laci when she was younger. 3 of her life-long friends were interviewed.
I think you would enjoy the documentary.
Scott Peterson is one of those sociopaths that just make my blood run cold just by looking at him.
I can't believe there are lawyers out there who try to get him set free.
Matt Lauer and cronies sound like the Kennedys, with all the secret service agents and other lackeys making sure all the women especially those that passed out drunk or smashed their head on the diving board, get back home from the White House safety and discreetly.
Bullshit they didn't know!
I would think so, too, and wonder if this is a Royal subject or your usual hater?
Brits seem to adore their Royals and especially weddings which they might only get to see a couple times in their lifetimes.
Bah Humbug, indeed!
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The Royal Family cost each British citizen LESS THAN a pound a year.
If it bothers you so much, grab a bottled water and sell it to an American tourist for five pounds and you've made your money back times five.
What an ungrateful lot. A pound a year for a billion in tourism in exchange!
Tucker's Mom said... 3
Scott Peterson is one of those sociopaths that just make my blood run cold just by looking at him.
I can't believe there are lawyers out there who try to get him set free.
Thank you, Dmasy about Laci. I really got involved with this horror story as well as Natalie Holloway and the precious Caylee Anthony. I can't do anymore.
Tucker's, there, I am sure, many attorneys that would love to be the one who got Scott Peterson off Death Row and on the streets again just like Baez got Casey Anthony off for killing Caylee.
I saw a pap picture of Casey recently and she was carrying a liittle lap dog. I remember the local Animal rights groups tried to stop her from adopting an animal.
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