Saturday, April 15, 2017

Recap: Kate Plus 8 "Sweet 16": Mady turns 16. Cara picks lint.

Coming up on Kate Plus 8. Mady turns 16. Cara picks lint.

They show a lot of sweet photos and clips of the girls growing up, some I don't remember seeing before. You would almost be fooled into thinking this is a nice family with twins with no screaming and hollering going on. This is a time for Kate to reflect all about herself.  Ultimately Kate doesn't worry about the twins because she knows they will make good decisions. Kind of like their decision not to see their father?

Kate gives the girls Gator driving lessons. Wait, I swear the kids were driving the Gator a year ago when they first got this. Now they get lessons?

Like so many other teens I've encountered these days, oddly, Mady doesn't really care much about getting her license. Kind of a, I'll get it when I get it attitude. She doesn't go anywhere really except school and home. Sad.

My theory on this, and it's totally a theory, is that kids today are so much better connected with their peers than we were as kids, and therefore, don't feel that compelling drive (I can make dumb puns too just like Kate) to get behind the wheel and hit the road. We had to learn to drive, because there was no texting or iPhones, and when we called Ashley's house on the good ole fashioned telephone, we either got the answering machine, or were told by her slightly annoyed mother, sorry she can't talk now she's doing her homework/at scouts/at soccer/practicing the trumpet/being punished. I never met a teen in my class who wasn't gunning to drive. We had to get going behind the wheel to drive to each other or risk never connecting with each other again outside the hours of 7:30am to 2:30pm. A 2017 kid can text Ashley, FaceTime, instagram and snapchat her, and get instant feedback from Ashley, and therefore doesn't feel as compelled to get in the car and drive somewhere to meet up with Ashley. The need teens have is simply to connect to peers and exchange feedback. It's clear that connection doesn't have to be in person just so long as they're getting a lot of it and it's instant. I like my theory, personally.

What does "over-start" the gator mean? I don't understand over-start. This has to be fake, Mady driving into the plants. Or Mady is driving erratically purposely for attention.

Cara says the most she has said all season, in that she actually used to think she would like to get her license because she would like to be able to drive herself over to Lancaster (where their school is) for lacrosse and such, but then she found out that apparently, she is not going to ever be allowed to drive that far. Forbidden by Kate, presumably. And therein lies one of the stupidest reasons ever to send them to a private school so far away. It's too far. So many of us warned that this commute was going to be a beast, especially when they got older and had to get themselves to school more often and for longer days and establish a group of friends over on that side of town that they want to see outside of school or even sometimes have to see, for school projects and study groups. And there it is. And sadly, Cara is losing out on valuable practice time behind the wheel while she is still under an adult's supervision. Practice time that is crucial and can be the difference between a teen ending up in a horrific accident before they are 20, or getting through the most dangerous years on the road unscathed. A public school or even a private school five to ten miles away would be close enough to make most parents comfortable with their child driving that distance, while still giving them practice time on the road. A shame.

I really don't know how much value a driving lesson on a Gator is to driving a real car in real traffic. They'll be ready to whiz around their retirement neighborhood in Florida someday, but little else.

Moving on to planning the party, Kate and Mady fight endlessly over ideas they're looking at on their MacBooks. Looks like Pinterest. Mady hates all of Kate's ideas for the party. In this case, since we know Kate has no style or taste, I'm thinking we have nothing to lose leaving this to Mady. Kate keeps trying to micromanage this, while Mady obviously would prefer to make the calls and is proud to plan it herself. Mady is sixteen years old. At this age, couldn't her mother just give her a budget to spend, a couple hundred bucks or whatever, and let her do this on her own? Mady wants to, she gets enjoyment out of party planning, and it's good for a child this age to take on such a major responsibility. And if Mady slips up and forget something important like the forks, then so be it. That's part of learning how to plan things responsibly, a life skill.

Three days before the party they're meeting with a baker about the cake? That's cutting it awfully close. I don't buy that. This episode feels more staged than usual.

Cara is really resisting helping to plan, won't give an opinion on anything, and doesn't even really want a party. She sounds self-conscious and reserved, easily embarrassed, which is normal for many teens that age. It's funny, because some teens like Mady want nothing but attention, to be the star of the high school play. Others want just the opposite, and would be mortified to have to go on stage or anything of the like. That was me, and I remember that feeling where you were embarrassed even to say you preferred chocolate cake over vanilla. God knows where that comes from but thankfully most teens outgrow it. It seems like teens are usually one extreme or the other. What doesn't make any sense is why a reserved teen would want anything to do with filming. My hunch is, she sure as hell doesn't and is being forced to comply, so she resists in any way she can, including refusing to say much on the couch or cooperate with things like party planning.

Mady has bullied her way into holding the reins here, which is what you have to do when your mother is Kate. Heh, I like how much it bothers Kate to have no say in things. Like watching someone who can't reach an itch in the middle of their back.

Another shopping trip to some kind of craft store. Kate says something like Mady wants to control things for the sake of controlling them, whatever that means. And doesn't that really more aptly describe Kate? This conversation about how Mady and Kate disagree over how to decorate for the party feels like it's going on hours. I can't anymore.

Finally they take two full carts of booty to the checkout for the company credit card, plus some Junior Mints. I always get flashbacks to that classic show Supermarket Sweep when I watch Kate shop on the company card. She tossed those Junior Mints into the cart like they are the special bonus item of the day worth $150. You should always focus on going after the bonus items and make sure to grind the coffee and get the frozen yogurt first. Don't be a fool wasting time on the turkeys, that's for chumps. Such a good show.



The day of the birthday, Kate is running around the house in a total panic. She starts taking out salmon for 20-30 salmon burgers and laments about how it's supposed to be foggy and rainy and this will ruin everything. Well, you planned a birthday party for the outdoors in Pennsylvania in October. Odds are the weather will stink. Why on earth didn't you have a Plan B you could easily turn to, like, I don't know, move the party to inside the house if the weather is bad? She really is a helpless twelve-year-old.

I'm kind of speechless at this next part because it's just so nuts on every level. Kate calls up her "friends" Chrissy and Todd. Remember them? They own the beef jerky place they agreed to be promoted on the sextuplets' birthday episode. Kate knows they have some kind of party room at their store, whatever that means, calls them up, and asks them if they could have the twins'  party at their store due to the weather. I think that's such an incredible thing to ask of someone at the last minute that I'm embarrassed. And remember, she's not just asking them to have 20-30 people over, but also to bring in a whole film crew to their store and film there. Wha? Why not just have it at the Mcmansion, inside? What's the point in buying a mansion like this if you don't have room indoors for a simple party of 20-30 people? Plus, hauling all the party crap they bought to a different location is a huge chore. Shaking my head.

And what are the odds that Chrissy and Todd just happened to be available that very afternoon to have 20-30 people over last minute? Don't most normal families with kids usually have plans over the holiday weekend? Like I said, this episode feels staged. I think all along they were going to have it at Chrissy and Todd's if it rained.

Kate quickly realizes a location change is a logistical nightmare. Of course it is. The kids are upset at how stressed out she is, as they should be. Even Mady, who sometimes can bring the drama, is like, what is the big freaking deal? We have a location now, the food is being cooked as we speak, it doesn't matter. Why on earth didn't she make the salmon the day before? That easily could have been done yesterday, it'll keep. Or pick some other food you can make the day before. Or heaven forbid order a bunch of pizzas and make it easy on yourself. Kate does this purposely I'm convinced, intentionally makes things as difficult as possible on herself. It's a martyr complex, maybe.

Ha, when Kate goes on about how she can't just show up at the party in work clothes and no makeup, Mady says no one is going to care if she's not there. Uh, actually, that's true. This is a party for 16-year-old girls, not their mothers. Nobody will notice whose mother is where or when. You just don't care at that age. Kate randomly launches into a bizarre rant looking straight into the camera, globs of sweat dotting her forehead, about how she does not have a nanny or housekeeper or hired help. Number one, yes you do, and it's all on film. Number two, grow up, Kate. If you don't have a nanny or housekeeper at the moment, get one. You can afford it. That's not our fault you allegedly don't have help that day for whatever reason. And she doesn't even need to pay people to not be so overwhelmed with this party. If one had friends and family, one could ask their best friends, their sister and sister-in-laws, their mother, and so on, to come on over. Something tells me the likes of women she has discarded like Beth and Jodi would have been all too happy to come over and help out today. And what about Jon? It's her choice not to get along with him for one day and put on a party together for the children they made together when they were once in love. Lots of divorced couples do this for their children all the time. Unfortunate.

Mady has to point out to Kate that a party is supposed to be fun. Making salmon burgers, party planning, picking up flowers, is all supposed to be fun. You might be confused who is the adult and who is the child here, but Kate is supposed to be the adult. There's so much yelling and whining about the stupidest things, I cannot even imagine growing up in this house. You know what's interesting is that over and over Kate has emphasized how she just wants this to be perfect on this special day which is why she's having a meltdown, and over and over Mady and even Cara have told her that it's okay. Maybe the twins didn't articulate it quite clearly so doofus could understand it, but I'm not getting the impression at all the twins are demanding this be "perfect." They just want to have a good time and be with their friends. Kate doesn't listen or pay attention to what her children are saying or what they really need. If she did, she would understand that what's far more important to the twins and all her children is that this day is chill and happy. "Perfect" is not what anybody else is after but doofus here. In fact if she would breathe for a second, she would realize that sometimes the most imperfect things make the best memories. The laugh you had when the icing stuck to the lid of the cake box, how muddy everyone got splashing in puddles when the party got rained on, the way Auntie's car wouldn't start when it was time to leave and she had to spend the night and you stayed up late with popcorn and a Disney movie with her. The best memories are often made in life's little hiccups and imperfections, aren't they?

I don't think it's unfair to say that Kate has ruined so many special things for her children like birthdays with her insanity, and this 16th birthday is no exception.

By the way, the house is incredibly cluttered. Random papers, bins, gadgets sitting out, all kinds of miscellaneous stuff. You couldn't even sit at the dining room table if you wanted to. It's always like this, not just before parties. You know, it's not a capital offense to be cluttered, but sometimes, it can contribute to a stressful household, especially if there is already so much stress there already. Everyone might feel a lot better if she would just put stuff away.

Kate thinks that Mady being so parentified by comforting her lunatic mother is "adorable." Oh, brother.

Where's Colin? Just saying.

So, back to the beef jerky change-up, how are they going to make sure 20-30 people know about this sudden location change? Who worked up the permits for this so fast, and what are the odds that the jerky place just happened to be totally available today on a holiday weekend? This is more fake than ever, not that this show isn't fake to begin with.

Nothing happens during this next part except a dress got steamed for a child who doesn't appreciate what a pain that is, and the twins call Kate "Mother" again. I love when they do that.


Kate says the younger children can't come to the party because there is not enough space in the venue. I don't have a problem with that. No teenager wants their kid brothers and sisters at their party. They can do a more intimate family party later and include the sextuplets. What I find hilarious, though, is that Kate just went on a tirade letting us know that contrary to popular belief she does not have a nanny! So who the heck stayed with the younger kids last minute while Kate and the twins were gone? They're a little young to be left by themselves all afternoon. If only to make sure someone is after them to do their homework and that no one burns the house down making grilled cheese.

Kate sure has a sudden group of old friends from various places like lamaze class of all things. Who are all these seemingly nice, down-to-earth people and their pretty daughters and why doesn't Kate contact them when she's feeling so overwhelmed to help her out? Does she not understand this is what a good girlfriend would be happy to do, help out their overwhelmed friend? Is she afraid if she asks for help she'll be asked to return the favor at some point? Or are these people really not all that close friends perhaps? Does she just like the drama and martyrdom of doing it without help? She had no problem letting Jon do it all. So many questions in this episode, and no answers.

Another complaint about TLCgo. Halfway through this episode, about now, when they were showing more endless ads, their ad for Amazon prime froze the rest of the video. Thinking it a glitch, I refreshed it. Went through all the ads again, because they make you, and the Amazon prime froze the darn thing again! After giving it one more try to the same results, I switched over to a bootleg copy found on Youtube. TLCgo is a hot mess. Take it down and re-write the code because it's garbage.

Some marginally handsome dude named Ronnie shows up. Maybe in his late 20's. Kate identifies him as their hair stylist and dear friend from NYC. They have a lot of dear friends who don't actually live in their town, don't they? Both the twins absolutely adore him. Maybe it's me, but this lovey-dovey relationship seems a little odd. I'm all for kids having older mentors, but the hair stylist? I think I would feel better about it if I knew they also had people in their lives they ran to like that like a grandma, or an Aunt Jodi, or a special Sunday school teacher or scout leader. Their circle is just not rounded out with the normal people one would expect a child to really adore and look up to, and it's strange and unfortunate. This guy is not going to be there for these kids through thick and thin as they go through life, like a relative or other close friend would be. It's fun now because he's just starting his career and befriending celebrity families, but he'll settle in soon and realize he has no time for this latching on nonsense and move on.

Mady lets loose that Ronnie was the best surprise ever, except for her laptop. So, she got a laptop for her birthday? This family can finagle a hair stylist and a laptop for a birthday present but not basic day-to-day hired help? Huh.

Back at the ranch, Kate sends an ice cream food truck to pay the younger kids a visit because she felt guilty they couldn't be at the party. Is this for real? The cost of a private food truck visit is outrageous. The way this woman pisses away money then turns around and complains she lacks basic rich people things like a housekeeper, is bizarre. 

This next part has a huge back story to it that I'm only going to summarize ever so briefly, in part because I don't even remember all the details of it, but folks can feel free to elaborate on it in the comments. And that is guess who is watching the kids? A fan! A creepy one too! This is so f-ed up! She's known around these parts as Brownie. On this blog there is a wealth of information about her and her creepy antics that goes back, I'm not even joking, until at least 2011. I did a quick google search of the blog for her, and found some posts to highlight about her. One, from an old poster Red Sky at Night, was talking about how Brownie was incessantly tweeting Kate about meeting up, having coffee with her, seeing NYC with her, and that Kate would just ignore her. And then there were the posts and posts about the expired cereal incident, as explained by good ole poster No Regrets, who said Brownie was going on and on about how she only spent 95 cents a box instead of five bucks, and 21 boxes were for Kate. "Just reading that woman is exhausting," remarked No Regrets. LOL!

I guess crazy as she sounds on twitter, Brownie actually has a legitimate job in real life as an art teacher. (Allegedly. I mean, I could say I'm an art teacher, too. Doesn't make it so.) But how in the holy f--- did she end up not only on this show but watching the kids alone??? How do you go from, I'm a creepy pest on Twitter, to, and now I'm the babysitter left alone with the kids?! What a hot mess. John Lennon, Kate. Jodi Foster. Rebecca Schaeffer. Wake the F up.

Also, another big fat clue that this whole "rained out birthday party oh noooes!" was all staged? How did Kate so quickly set up an art teacher to come stay with the sextuplets and arrange for a food truck to swing by? Gimme an ever loving break. I also find it to be an absolutely glaring omission that Kate doesn't mention, oh by the way, Brownie is just a fan I met on twitter. She paints a rosy picture like this is some art teacher perhaps from school or they met at scouts, and that's just nonsense, a lie. If you're going to be so unbelievably stupid as to allow your fans to have unfettered access to your children like this, at least be honest about it. Also, who thinks Brownie has been angling for a role on this show for years? I betchya a whole lot of DM's were exchanged before this finally happened. This really takes the cake brownie!

Creepy Brownie fan is in the bathroom with Aaden, washing off paint from his face. Good Lord. At least she's a teacher, allegedly, so at least we know someone, somewhere, has done some kind of background check on her at some point, one hopes.


I think this was the episode that got decent ratings out of the rest of the dismal season, and I kind of see why now. It's actually a tiny bit interesting in that it's so....unbelievably.....insane.

The twins lament that the younger kids can say very mean and nasty things. The twins are just as nasty, so I don't really think they should talk.

I can't stand when adults totally exaggerate a child's accomplishments. Brownie calls the actually somewhat messy paint job the kids did on picture frames for the twins "phenomenal." No, it was mostly just mediocre, not even close to phenomenal. And, a lot of the kids were goofing off, messing around during the project, which is not good behavior when one is trying to focus and paint something nice for their sisters. I daresay some of them didn't even try, and Brownie isn't about to be hard on them lest she mess up this once in a lifetime gig. Even some of the kids admit they stink at painting. In any case, a "good job" is sufficient and doesn't give kids an inflated sense of their own crappy skills. Next thing you know you've got some delusional kid setting his sights on majoring in the arts when at best all he can throw together is an ugly finger painting.

Swish back to the Pinterest party. Salmon burgers, and, pesto spaghetti? That's interesting. I'm all for kids getting to pick what they would like to eat on their birthday, but out of courtesy to their many guests, they should have offered something else too almost everyone will eat and enjoy, like your standard marinated chicken strips, or a pizza. Their combo is too weird to appeal to many people, and it's rude to only offer that. At the end of the day Kate is still as rude and inconsiderate as ever, unable to think and realize that their menu is bizarre and not appealing to many.

Oh I just LOVE when Kate gets caught in the lie. Remember how she insisted for years that she really needed to sign up for filming so that their memories could be video taped? Well now she says she filmed almost every moment of the twins when they were babies herself. This was long before the show, remember. So, if it was no problem to film it all yourself, every moment of it, why does one need a camera crew in the first place? What a liar.

Kate herself, she claims at the request of the twins, put together a bunch of clips of the girls from when they were babies to show at the party. It ended up being half an hour. Mady and Cara say on the couch that they actually asked Kate to make a video montage for them only, not to show at the party to everyone, but Kate twisted their request all around. And they said the video was an hour. Yikes. Wouldn't a much better idea be to have this video playing on a loop in the background throughout the party? I've seen that at birthday parties, weddings, and anniversaries, and it works well. That way no one feels obligated to sit down and hush up through a big long montage of boring home videos, but people can still watch and enjoy them throughout the party on their own terms. The way Kate structured it, this film brought the party to an awkward, screeching halt.

The guests are extraordinarily polite, sitting there acting engaged and interested in this very long drawn out boring home video. Oh, there's her stupid "The Gosselin Twins" sign she tacked to the twins' stroller, the very first flicker we ever had of what her ambitions really were. She says that patriotic decorated stroller was part of a competition and she won. She took the competition very seriously, so much so that she blackened the windows of their garage so no one could see her working on the project. Yes Kate, other competitors are going to illegally sneak onto your property peer through garage windows and try to get a peek at your lame decorations and then steal the idea. That's not psycho thinking at all. But yet another fascinating glimpse into how she is wired and how she sees the world.

Kate seems embarrassed at how she looks in this videos. She looks a little dated, sure, with that stupid headband and the tucked in solid colored blouses, but it was 2001, what do you expect? (Hey, how crazy is it that how we all looked in 2001, the year of 9-11, seems so dated now?) Other than that I think she looks young, fresh, normal, and decidedly un-plastic, untouched by the downside of fame and fortune. In short, I think the woman looked good in 2001. Sad she doesn't see it.

I hate when Kate speaks for all mothers. No, not all mothers want their kids to go back to being babies. Some mothers actually enjoy the different stages of their children's lives as they happen, one to the next, and don't constantly long for them to be nine months old. Sheesh.

Kate is really putting huge emotional burdens on the twins about them turning 16. It's a big deal, sort of yes, but it's not that big of a deal. Graduation and going off to college are way worse, how on earth will she handle that?

As they light the candles on the cute cake, Kate proceeds to rattle off 16 things she loves about the twins, which she admits she didn't prepare. That's too many things not to prepare, what a lazy doofus. She ends up saying stupid stuff like I love that you didn't light yourself on fire lighting the candles. Dolt.

These guests are one in a million listening to all this so politely, but I can see a glimmer of impatience finally breaking their smiles. No doubt at some point, the 16-year-old guests would like to hang out and laugh and party with their 16-year-old friends and have this stop being all about Kate.

Thinking back to all the Sweet 16 parties I went to as a kid and I never remember the mothers being so front and center. I don't begrudge adults who have been in their lives wanting to be here for the party, but for goodness sake, have a separate area for the adults so the kids can have some space to enjoy the party just among themselves. As I recall for my 16th, I had a bunch of girlfriends spend the night undisturbed by the adults. Then later on that weekend I had a party for family--immediate family, grandparents from both sides, cousins local to the area, and close family friends. Separating it out like that gives a 16 year old a chance to really just be with their friends, which is so important at that age, while still making sure this event can be marked by family, too. There are so many quick and easy compromises like that Kate could take that she never does.

The party is finally over and Mady says now they're going to go make smores on the deck. Please tell me they will finally be able to do something without all the adults there. Wait, I thought it was raining and they couldn't do things outside?

The twins were very appreciative and sincere about creepy Brownie's art projects the younger kids made, so that was a relief. It's sad when every time someone in this family does something nice for someone else, I brace for impact waiting for the other person to say something rude or ungrateful or otherwise blow them off.

Mercifully, it looks like the girls are having their bonfire without any adults. What a massive relief, finally!

Kate claims the twins thanked her for days and days afterwards. And days. I don't find that representative of how truly grateful they are. Rather it's a red flag that children are fearful that their gratitude is not sinking in with their parent, or that they are otherwise on pins and needles with that parent, and so they do things like that over and over to ensure the parent is appeased. It's a sign of insecurity and dysfunction, Kate.

We close with some more old clips to fill up the rest of the time. Ha, the editors snuck in an old clip of Mady in an Em Tanner shirt. Hey-ya, Em!

Kate doesn't know if she really deserves to be their mother. Nope, she doesn't. See ya next time for the season finale.

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Tucker's Mom said...

Yay, thank you for the recap! I bet it's slintillating!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Notice TFW said "I'm HAPPY to refund anyone who sends me some!:)" What a person who wasn't grifting would say is, if
you'd be kind enough to pick some up for me, I'll FedEx you a check FIRST so you don't have to put your own money out. Simple, huh?

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She's VERY sly. She knows darn well her stupid fans won't even dream of asking her to refund them. But she's offered, so now she's not "really" grifting, right?

Tucker's Mom said...

I never met a teen in my class who wasn't gunning to drive. We had to get going behind the wheel to drive to each other or risk never connecting with each other again outside the hours of 7:30am to 2:30pm.
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Oh, the landline phones!

Hi Mrs. So and So, is Martha there?

I dreaded that!

I also think that the reason we drove earlier is because so many of us took jobs by 16-years old.

Tucker's Mom said...

What does "over-start" the gator mean? I don't understand over-start. This has to be fake, Mady driving into the plants. Or Mady is driving erratically purposely for attention.
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Mady, like Kate, thinks being ditsy is cute.
Too cute by half, really.

My mother would have given me the stink eye if I acted dumb on purpose. She didn't suffer fools!

ncgirl said...

Thanks for the recap. Kate likes babies because she can control them and they don't talk back.

There was another fan they socialized with, Emily? When will it be Milo's turn? I would almost watch the show Milo is in. Almost.

Tucker's Mom said...

She's VERY sly.
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Kate is manipulative. Manipulation is power to her.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate does this purposely I'm convinced, intentionally makes things as difficult as possible on herself. It's a martyr complex, maybe.
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Contrary to the narrative Kate and TLC constantly put out there, Kate is NOT good under stress and is very DISorganized.
Kate doesn't check herself, ever, and becalm herself as to not ruin it for everyone else.
the kids' trips and parties are constantly tinged by Kate's hysteria and theatrics. They never get to just enjoy.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I also think that the reason we drove earlier is because so many of us took jobs by 16-years old.





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Good point. I was working when I was 15 and on, and nobody wants to be seen having mom drop you off.

I almost can't blame teens for not working as much as we did. They have so much studying and homework to do and have to do so many other things to make themselves college material, they don't have the time.

In my day mostly A's and B's, one sport, and a few clubs was plenty to get you into anywhere but the ivy leagues. Good enough!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

the kids' trips and parties are constantly tinged by Kate's hysteria and theatrics. They never get to just enjoy.

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There was a moment in these episodes where some of the children were truly getting upset at Kate's stress. One of the younger girls, in particular, as I recall. I felt bad for them.

Sad but true said...

Thanks for the recap, Admin. Whenever I read one, I find myself so thankful I didn't bother watching.

Yeah, the whole fiction of the "no help" has been a common refrain throughout the history of this show, and it's been disproved so many times you'd think she'd just STFU about it. If she didn't bring it up all the time, then surely no one would bother commenting one way or the other when they happen to see the easily-spotted hired help. Her lying about this does her no favors. As is the case with her lying about just about everything else.

Tucker's Mom said...

Maybe it's me, but this lovey-dovey relationship seems a little odd. I'm all for kids having older mentors, but the hair stylist?
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Yes, it's really weird how many hired strangers Kate brings into their lives and treats them like long-lost family, when they actually have a ton of family that they never see.
Its unhealthy.

Tucker's Mom said...

Mady lets loose that Ronnie was the best surprise ever, except for her laptop. So, she got a laptop for her birthday? This family can finagle a hair stylist and a laptop for a birthday present but not basic day-to-day hired help? Huh.

Back at the ranch, Kate sends an ice cream food truck to pay the younger kids a visit because she felt guilty they couldn't be at the party. Is this for real?
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I know! But let's all feel sorry for Kate because she doesn't have a full-time staff of 5 people helping her do everything.
The whining about doing actual work is so overdone.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Yes, it's really weird how many hired strangers Kate brings into their lives and treats them like long-lost family, when they actually have a ton of family that they never see.
Its unhealthy.

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And, these people are so unlikely to stick around. Where's Deanna, for starters? These NYC types working the edges of Hollywood are not here to be your kid's uncle. So when Uncle Ronnie soon gets bored or too busy how does that make a kid feel who was so emotionally invested in this relationship? Insecure at best.

The thing is, grandma, grandpa, auntie are not gonna just move on when something better comes along. Those relationships are, almost always, solid and dependable. Until death do you part. Kids need that kind of security, they need to know what reliable really means, and these kids have nobody like that anymore. Frankly, they will learn not to count on others and in turn be someone others can't count on either.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin, you rock! Thanks so much for this recap. I was so looking forward to it. It's even better than a flippitybillion plastic Easter eggs!

Man, I was stressed just reading about that party prep. If TFW had handed the twins $50 and the phone number for Domino's, they would probably have had a better time. Stress takes its toll on people, and can taint the final event, no matter how special you think you've made it.

And I think it's lousy mothering to ever inject the word "perfect" into anything. It is an unreasonable standard to which no one can live up. If you're expecting perfection -- be it from a party, a job, a friend, or a mate -- you are guaranteed to be disappointed.

Tucker's Mom said...

I've been to events where there's a video playing and you watch at your leisure. Making it obligatory is weird.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#13), look how screwed up the G kids' lives have been, relationship-wise.
Dad - gone. Brother - gone. Grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins - gone. I can see the children going to 2 extremes: grabbing on to any other available adult with both hands, in hopes to find someone with whom they connect, or just shutting down to everyone, because it's too painful to lose them. Only time will tell.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Man, I was stressed just reading about that party prep. If TFW had handed the twins $50 and the phone number for Domino's, they would probably have had a better time. Stress takes its toll on people, and can taint the final event, no matter how special you think you've made it.


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Think about it. When have you ever heard anyone say, that party wasn't very good because they didn't have a nice vase of flowers on every table, or the china was cheap, or the silverware was plastic? I wanted it to look more like Pinterest!

No, the party was not good because Uncle Frank got really drunk, or Cousin Mary was in a piss poor mood because she finally decided to leave her loser boyfriend, or your best friend was coming then got in a fender bender on the way over and never made it.

Parties are about the people, and about who showed up and how you all got along. Parties aren't about the damn flowers, salmon burgers, or cutlery. I think this truly relates to Kate's narcissism and her inability to realize that life is about relationships not things. In her mind a perfect party is in the details of the STUFF, the things. In a normal person's mind, a perfect party has much more to do with the people.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Exactly how they will react.

I bet you will see some of the kids latch on and marry the first person who says I love you. Some are going to be married by 20.

Others will push back on anyone who tries to love them, and end up divorced several times or never married at all.

Tucker's Mom said...


I bet you will see some of the kids latch on and marry the first person who says I love you. Some are going to be married by 20.
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The girls especially will be at risk for abusive relationships because they didn't get the love and validation they needed from their father.
No doubt there will be more abuse and divorce amongst the kids.

Sheepless In Seattle said...


There was another fan they socialized with, Emily? When will it be Milo's turn? I would almost watch the show Milo is in. Almost.

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Milo has no desire to meet Kate and even becomes belligerent and nasty when it's suggested. I have no idea why. One of the great mysteries of life, I guess.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Hi Mrs. So and So, is Martha there?

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LOL! We weren't allowed to say that. We said, "May I please speak to Martha?"

Sad but true said...

Someone's feeling neglected.

barbgilmer1@kateplusmy8 WHOOPS, missed this one. But I'm invisible anyway! Hope you find PLENTY!

And someone used the "g" word.

sammiemyami Look instead of grift. They are discontinued. https://www.google.com/search?q=rubber+chicken&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=rubber+chicken&tbm=shop

NJGal51 said...

Uh oh! Barb is getting kind of test Yet: "Whoops, missed this one. But I'm invisible anyway! Hope you find PLENTY!"

And a comment from someone that hasn't been swiffered yet: "Look instead of grift. They are discontinued." And she provides links for TFW to make it easier for her.

Formerly Duped said...

Great recap! I watched snippets quite a while ago. I remember at the craft store, Mady was so much like Kate, throwing things into the cart that didn't even match or she did not particularly want. All on TLC's dime so who cares?

Then Kate actually yelled at Hannah who was trying to help with the party prep. TFW started actually crying in front of the kids about knowing the party would be a flop. Don't most moms try to hide tears from their kids?

The friends all seemed fake- random people, kind of like that deck party, round up a bunch of 'extras.'

Cara wanted little to do with whole thing- maybe she had the right idea.

That's about all I took away from this!

Tucker's Mom said...

Sad but true said... 23
Someone's feeling neglected.

barbgilmer1@kateplusmy8 WHOOPS, missed this one. But I'm invisible anyway! Hope you find PLENTY!
*****
It's hide the bunny time! This is why Doofus shouldn't play favorites with her sheep, then ignore them.

Kate is a twit said...

From Kate's instagram:

mswearingen064Target.com has some rubber chicken dog toys called "Ruffin it". They don't look exactly the same but maybe they'd work? Good luck.

kateplusmy8Has to be exact one and same color... silly dog!:) @mswearingen064

But..but..but..Back in August, she posted a picture of Shoka with a different rubber squeaky toy with the following post:

kateplusmy8Bought this duck toy for the puppies but Shokas motto is 'What's theirs is mine and what's mine is mine' so he claimed it! Oh well! He's the King of the king shepherds here so it's fine! #OurDogsRuleMyInstagram #Oops

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJYoywGD__k/

So apparently it seems like Shoka doesn't care what squeaky toy he gets. It's just Kate lying and grifting again.

BTW, great recap, Admin. But wasn't Brownie wiping blood(not paint) off of Aaden's face because he got a bloody nose when one of the tup girls accidentally hit him?

NJGal51 said...

My bulldog loves his toys and does have his favorites but a toy is a toy is a toy. If it sqeaks and he can run around with it or chase after it it's fine. I guess this is just one more case of how amazingly amazing her dogs are because they will accept no substitutes! She is a dope!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



BTW, great recap, Admin. But wasn't Brownie wiping blood(not paint) off of Aaden's face because he got a bloody nose when one of the tup girls accidentally hit him?


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Blood???? I missed that. Brownie probably took the bloody kleenex home in case we can clone people someday she'll have Aaden's DNA on her.

I wonder if Brownie told Kate one of the kids got a bloody nose on her watch. I'm betting....NOT.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

*****
It's hide the bunny time! This is why Doofus shouldn't play favorites with her sheep, then ignore them.

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Wasn't Barb her personal internet assistant or something like that, and then suddenly lost the position? I can't remember what that was all about.

Sad but true said...

KIAT, you've always got the facts at your fingertips. Which is very helpful when dealing with an inveterate liar like K8. Thanks for chiming in.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Speaking of the blog historian, or anyone who remembers.....was there any indication publicly that Kate was warming to Brownie? Any hints they were actually developing a friendship in real life?

Because in my research, Kate ignored crazy Brownie. How do you go from ignore hide the bunny to....and now you're my babysitter!

It's just not even fathomable.

Tucker's Mom said...

I don' think Kate showed Brownie any love on her social media. Evidently, Brownie doesn't know how to help Kate anymore.
Easy come. Easy go.

Sad but true said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 31
Speaking of the blog historian, or anyone who remembers.....was there any indication publicly that Kate was warming to Brownie? Any hints they were actually developing a friendship in real life?
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None. Not until she all of a sudden started replying to her tweets during that episode's tweet-o-rama.

Sad but true said...

Fleecing The Sheeple said... 29

The early days of her Twitter account. When people were asking for her address so they could get old books signed, etc. Barb was the Address Holder of Record.

NJGal51 said...

Brownie is a (self published) author and we've speculated that TFW struck up a friendship with her to use her to help with the next book. Maybe the appearance was part of her pay off.

Kate is a twit said...

Speaking of the blog historian, or anyone who remembers.....was there any indication publicly that Kate was warming to Brownie? Any hints they were actually developing a friendship in real life?
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These are tweets that Kate sent to Brownie's old(now deleted account) back in 2011. You can't see Brownie's tweets that Kate was replying to, but it looks like the "cereal" thing happened on Sep. 3, 2011.

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=from%3Akateplusmy8%20to%3Amkbrownlow&src=typd

These are 2 tweets that Kate sent to her on that date:

Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 3 Sep 2011
@mkbrownlow do they have healthy valley 'crispix or chex' I use that for monkey munch! :)

Kate Gosselin‏@Kateplusmy8 3 Sep 2011
@mkbrownlow ok will dm you early in week to set something up! Thanks again!

Then Kate tweeted her once in Jan. 2016 regarding a platitude Brownie tweeted, and then she replied to a tweet that Brownie was mentioned in when the Sweet 16 episode aired.

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=from%3Akateplusmy8%20%40%20OR%20%40MK_Brownlow&src=typd

So Kate wasn't very interactive with her on twitter in recent years, unless it was strictly through DM's. However, Brownie did start tweeting her again, from her new account, starting when the show returned with the specials in June 2014. These were her first couple of tweets back then.

MKBrownlowAuthor‏ @MK_Brownlow 26 Jun 2014
@Kateplusmy8 Hey you! Shoot me a DM! :)

MKBrownlowAuthor‏ @MK_Brownlow 29 Jul 2014
@Kateplusmy8 Hope all is AMAZING, friend! <3

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=from%3AMK_Brownlow%20%40kateplusmy8&src=typd

So maybe they did meet up for the cereal swap after all, and Kate realized that she had a new patsy who lived locally that she could use and exploit.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Hey "you"?? Okay, Ross and Rachel! Geez Brownie.

Kate is a twit said...

Seeing Kate's old tweets to Brownie brought back a distant memory. Remember this convo from back then? (I got Brownie's tweets from old comments posted about it).

Kate Gosselin‏ @Kateplusmy8 13 Aug 2011
@mkbrownlow ppl always hav opinions. Imp 2 me is how I handle opinions/criticism.I truly don't let it get2me.I consider the source&move on.

@mkbrownlowmkbrownlow
@Kateplusmy8 "Consider the source & MOVE ON!" I think I could do a WHOLE teen girl workshop on JUST that quote! BRILLIANT! I am sharing it!

@mkbrownlowmkbrownlow
@Kateplusmy8 OK - joking aside... would you be ok w me using ur "consider the source..." quote 4 locker cards 2 give away at my event 2m nt?

Kateplusmy8Kate Gosselin
@mkbrownlow no I can't, sorry. Can't be quoted unless approved. Sorry... U really can't use it...:(

mkbrownlowmkbrownlow
@Kateplusmy8 oh bummer....girls would love it but totally respect the "powers that be" - :)

truthalwaysworktruthalwaysworks
@mkbrownlow @Kateplusmy8 You're an idiot, that saying has been around for hundreds of yrs.

mkbrownlowmkbrownlow
@truthalwayswork Well, I have never heard it -

Right then, Kate must have realized what a pushover Brownie was.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Deep in the trenches of my brain somewhere I remembered there was some kind of "awkward" conversation between Kate and Brownie where Kate put her in her place. And I think it was that little exchange!

And really, this woman is a teacher? This woman is left alone with children? She had never heard "consider the source" before? That's like saying you've never heard of "you only live once" and then attribute it to Kate if she says it.

Brownie seems really persistent. Looks like she's tried all sorts of angles to get an "in." First trying the I'm just like you girlfriend route, then trying the flattery like putting Kate on a bumper sticker, trying to find an in with her little book or whatever it is she does. I'd love to be a fly on the walk for their DMs.

College Dame said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 8
I almost can't blame teens for not working as much as we did. They have so much studying and homework to do and have to do so many other things to make themselves college material, they don't have the time.
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Now colleges are turning back to that. They don't want overachievers who dip into everything.

In my day mostly A's and B's, one sport, and a few clubs was plenty to get you into anywhere but the ivy leagues. Good enough!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Now colleges are turning back to that. They don't want overachievers who dip into everything.

$$$

That may be and that's good, but teens today are still running ragged trying to make the grades and don't have time for extensive part time jobs. I would rather a kid get some sleep than work. They can learn work ethic later.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

KIAT (#38), you never disappoint! Thanks for that trip down memory lane. I'd completely forgotten that TFW gave Brownie a rather curt thumbs down when she wanted to use "her" quote. Whoever thinks TFW came up with that original thought probably also believes she invented the flag cake.

njay said...

Creepy Brownie fan is in the bathroom with Aaden, washing off paint from his face. Good Lord. At least she's a teacher, allegedly, so at least we know someone, somewhere, has done some kind of background check on her at some point, one hopes.
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From what I remember, Brownie was "Mc/macBrownlow", who was involved someway, I think just as a friend, with a guy who just got out of jail for child porn or molestation. She closed down her account and opened a few new accounts and changed profile names until she finally she disappeared for a while. This was when the haters were ruthless with their attacks.

Sad but true said...

Kate is a twit said... 38

Oh lord, I remember that one now. K8 considered herself so clever and important and just beat ol' Brownie down. I wonder if Brownie's got that journalled. Thanks again, KIAT, for "setting the record straight" (not typed with a straight face!).

Meanwhile, over on IG, someone claims to be doing the candy thing, though the photo is all #NookiePookie:

kateplusmy8 When you REALLY REALLY want some Easter candy... filling baskets and this little girl begged and begged for some! #NoCanDo #Nanuq #PhotoCreditGoesToMady #HappyEaster ๐Ÿฐ

winniethepoo_donna_colombo No Easter candy for you nanuq. Just an Easter toy for you.

kateplusmy8 Our dogs are getting Easter baskets too sans candy of course! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ @winniethepoo_donna_colomb

miloandjack2016 So glad you made thst clear! No chocolate eggs for doggies! #BadMistake many have made.. But of course you will provide alternative treats for MissNanuq! Whats in the doggie baskets? @kateplusmy8

miloandjack2016LOL Those ears! Now who got her attention like that? @kateplusmy8

So on the one hand, we're just a few weeks from the long-heralded #8Teens!, and on the other we're acting like they're toddlers. She truly is manic. I wonder if Collin's getting any Easter goodies. Surely he's gotta rank somewhere near the dogs.

NJGal51 said...

She had to post some sort of Easter picture because her gritting for rubber chickens post got less than 1500 likes. She gives Mady photo credit (with a # of course) like it's some great Ansel Adams photo. Uh, not quite.

GollyGee said...

Just saw the new Swiffer ad this morning. A little boy was cutting hair (at the dining room table) on all of his stuffed animals and his mother comes in just when he is about to cut his little sisters hair.

The look on the mother's face!

Then the mom is shown with the swiffer mop, swiffering up all of the mess. They show a wide shot of her manuvering in and about the dining room table and chairs. No little boy is seen when she started swiffering.

It reminded me so much of Collin. Poor kid!

I hope he can see his b and s's and his father today.

Happy Easter Collin and the 7.

GollyGee said...

Brownie shouldn't of asked her to use that quote that TFW thought she gave birth to. She should of quietly went ahead and got all of the printing done and then advertise it. Then when TFW gets wind of it, her true colors will come out and she will embarrass herself.

All Brownie has to do is say, Do you have it copyrighted or trademarked?

That will shock and awe her because she had the guts to call her mess out.

Then Brownie could say, Back off, honey, you don't control me.

TFW telling her not to use it was ridiculous and petty. She has no right to do that!

GollyGee said...

Great job on the recap Admin!

It was so riveting, I mean TFW was so riveting that the Pulitzer nom is on the way! Because anything that comes out of her mouth has to be rewarded and recognized in some big way and not mediocrely, either! lol

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Happy Easter to all who celebrate it!

So at least 10 Easter baskets -- 7 for the kids, and 3 for the dogs. Yesterday was rubberchickenpalooza, and TFW was in an ordering frenzy -- money was no object. And the tups' 13th birthday is right around the corner, but she will surely spend a lot then (although if there's an episode about it, the gifts may be part of the show's budget).

Is it that she doesn't realize she probably has fans who live paycheck to paycheck, or that she doesn't care? Because she really seems tone deaf about how lifestyle wildly contradict the piecin'-and-patchin' budget she claims is what keeps her filming. It used to be she was worried about putting food in her babies' mouths. Now it's more about putting iTunes gift cards in her babies' baskets.

GollyGee said...

If Brownies male friend was involved with child porn and just got out of prison and she lets the kids be around her? What about Steve vetting these people?

I can just see TFW hollering like she did on TMZ in NYC to a pap about Blankenship, I NEVER HEARD OF HIM as she had the death grip on her purse strap, walking really fast, like she was a celebrity!

She is such a liar! Her and Jon met him twice I think and Jon one more time. When the news broke about him, Jon was very upset and was worried about the kids. TFW, not a peep worried about it,

Just keep filming.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

You just know when TFW turned Brownie down about the quote, the little wheels had already started turning in her head that perhaps there was a buck to be made, and she'd be darned if she'd give something away without getting a piece of the action. She is quite transparent.

I imagine grifters have a heightened sense of self preservation. Some people's "default" reaction is kindness, trust, and/or generosity, especially when it's something involving helping kids, as Brownie said she'd be using the quote for. I suspect Jodi and Beth are those types of people. But TFW's gut response is, hey, what's in it for me?

Tucker's Mom said...

About Brownie asking Kate to quote her. They both need a bit of education here. Brownie can quote Kate until he cows come home. I don't even think she'd be in trouble if she appropriated Kate's tweet, because it's common verbiage.
Brownie didn't say she was going to plagiarize Kate, just that she wanted to quote what she wrote on SOCIAL MEDIA on a PUBLIC ACCOUNT!
Dufii
What would it have meant to Kate if someone quoted her tweet? Was she planning on copyrighting her commonly-used phrase?
Good luck with that, ya bimbo!

Tucker's Mom said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 51
You just know when TFW turned Brownie down about the quote, the little wheels had already started turning in her head that perhaps there was a buck to be made, and she'd be darned if she'd give something away without getting a piece of the action. She is quite transparent.
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That is *exactly* it!
I bet Kate was on her pink Iphone with Laverne and Shirley right after that, wondering if she could be credited from that day forward with "consider the source".
#dolt

Brownie should have considered the source and told Kate 'too bad, so sad....and no, you can't quote me"

Tucker's Mom said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 49
Happy Easter to all who celebrate it!
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Hallejujah, Hallelujah. Much rejoicing to our Christian friends here ;-)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think Kate was getting confused because I imagine TLC said you can't do any merchandising without our approval. Brownie wanted to put her on a bumper sticker or something. Kate got cold feet thinking TLC might be upset about this if she gave the go-ahead.

I agree, Brownie should have just gone ahead and used the quote. She doesn't need Kate's permission to repeat things Kate has said.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

How exactly what Brownie involved with the pervert guy? Dating him, just communicating with him, a business partner? Sounds like she has some serious judgment issues, not good for a teacher or someone you would leave your kids alone with.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I wonder if Jon will get to see any of his kids. Not sure what the holiday custody schedule is.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#54), good point, it hadn't occurred to me that TFW might be reluctant about doing something without TLC's approval. But that leads me to wonder, did she need their approval to endorse that beauty box,
or that energy tea? Just how deep do her contractual connections reach?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm sure with Kate TLC has instructed her to just not do anything at all without their approval. She's not smart enough to be able to discern what's appropriate and what's not on a case-by-case basis as other celebs might be. I have always found it very strange that TLC won't even let her use the official show name on her Twitter account. She has to add MY to it lol. How embarrassing she the star of the show can't even use the name! That shows the depths of how little they trust her to not even allow her to say anything with the show's name attached to her.

Formerly Duped said...

We celebrated Easter yesterday since my son has to work today. Well, he lives on his own now and has done since October. He is very busy with his work so I only see him about once a month and that kills me. Of course he is an adult now and I was so happy to see him yesterday- can't imagine how any mother can go without ( we assume) seeing a child for as long as dear Collin has been gone.

NJGal51 said...

Uh oh, nick_moy has a chicken for Shoka and is asking how to get it to them. If I were TFW I'd be very careful with giving out any information to this one.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

NJGal51 (#61), oh, dear, this could get scary. Instead of "hide the bunny," we should start saying, "hide the chicken."

If this Nick person is really Hole-In-The-Heart, maybe he/she will leave off the return address when sending the package.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Formerly Duped (#60), aww, your son is now grown, but I'm sure in your heart he's still your little boy. That tenderness is something we've never seen from TFW -- especially regarding her boys.

I think that's why it rings so hollow when TFW speaks so sentimentally about the kids, wishing they were small again. We know full well how she treated her small children. And she always acted like the most exhausted, put-upon human being on earth when they were little. Why would she want to go back to that time? I suspect the real reason she would want to go back is for the white-hot spotlight she misses so desperately.

Kylie said...

Milo just makes me want to scream and barf at the same time. She needs to tell everyone not to give dogs chocolate? Is she for real? As if every dog owner doesn't know not to feed chocolate to a dog. Sheesh.

NJGal51 said...

TFW is in a posting frenzy. This time it's a picture of Shoka in bunny ears. I wonder if the kids are with Jon and she'll post a picture of them tonight to try and convince people that they've been there all day. I wonder if the show has been put on hold (again) and she needs the validation to show she's still relevant.

Happy Easter to all who celebrate. We're lounging around until we have to go out to neighbors later today.

Sad but true said...

Shoka in bunny ears. How original.

kateplusmy8 ๐ŸŒธHappy Easter๐ŸŒธ from Shoka and his entire human, furry and feathered family! PS- Shoka says a huge THANK YOU to all who sent information on where to find his favorite chickens (PetStages kooky chickens)! I've ordered some from different places and will relax once they actually arrive! Can't have enough though bc they are discontinued so keep those 'chicken tips/spottings' coming๐Ÿ˜‰! #HappyEaster ๐ŸŒธ๐ŸŒท๐Ÿ’

Yeah, keep those chickens coming.

Rainbowsandunicorns said...

If Brownies male friend was involved with child porn and just got out of prison and she lets the kids be around her? What about Steve vetting these people?

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What does that have to do with Brownie? I'm confused. Did the friend get out of jail, and why would the children be around him?

Rainbowsandunicorns said...

reepy Brownie fan is in the bathroom with Aaden, washing off paint from his face. Good Lord. At least she's a teacher, allegedly, so at least we know someone, somewhere, has done some kind of background check on her at some point, one hopes.

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Where does Creepy Brownie teach? I know she's an artist and an author, but I didn't realize she teaches school. She disappeared when the porn friend was arrested and sentenced, and I don't believe it was when he got out of jail, if he ever did.

Blog historian?

NJGal51 said...

Rainbowsandunicorns, Brownie's bio on Amazon says she's a former teacher. She put her name out there and wasn't hard to find doing an author search.

CC said...

My guess is no Easter pics of the kids because Collin won't be in them, and everyone will know he's STILL not home, and didn't even celebrate Easter with his family.

Layla said...

The salmon burgers and pesto pasta menu cracks me up. That is not a party menu. Kate is trying to impress the viewers by showing off what sophisticated tastes her kids have. She doesn't care that most of the guests might not appreciate that kind of a spread.

We just got back from a few days in PA, and my kids had a great time with their cousins, grandparents, aunts, and uncles. We all made the trek to Hershey Park, and there was plenty of chaos and noise. Funny but nobody complained about our long, tiring, imperfect visit.

It really makes me sad that the G kids don't get to have those kinds of experiences. Just hanging out and enjoying all the company and comradery.

An aunt and uncle brought over their new motor home, which reminded me of the RV episodes. Kate made it sound like such a hardship to travel in those, but this thing was amazing! It was called a Phaeton and had a fireplace, sofas, washer and dryer, flat-screen TVs...I could live in that thing! I wonder if TLC went cheap on the RVs on purpose. The ones the Gs had were nowhere near as nice. TLC has the budget to rent something that was top of the line, but didn't. Maybe to provide some hardship and bring on the meltdowns, maybe. If Kate didn't get the best, then she was guaranteed to freak out. And she did!

Over And Out said...

More people watched the birth of April's calf than watch the Kate episodes.

Formerly Duped said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 63
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Thanks, that's true of both my 'adult' kids and same for everyone here, as well, of their children no matter what age.. I still have Easter baskets and Xmas stockings but acknowledge they are grown and respect their decisions. I'm happy when they choose to and can spend time with us.

I think TFW is flooding her IG with puppies and birds and fish because her kids are growing past the 'cute' stuff and she doesn't know how to let them either grow up or be kids when they actually were. She is not like most mothers.

Over And Out said...

An aunt and uncle brought over their new motor home, which reminded me of the RV episodes. Kate made it sound like such a hardship to travel in those, but this thing was amazing! It was called a Phaeton and had a fireplace, sofas, washer and dryer, flat-screen TVs...I could live in that thing! I wonder if TLC went cheap on the RVs on purpose. The ones the Gs had were nowhere near as nice. TLC has the budget to rent something that was top of the line, but didn't. Maybe to provide some hardship and bring on the meltdowns, maybe. If Kate didn't get the best, then she was guaranteed to freak out. And she did!

(((((

Even if she had a luxury RV, do you think that she would have been satisfied? She would have found something wrong. It wouldn't have been good enough.

Tucker's Mom said...

Layla said... 71

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The whole party sounded like salmon burger and pesto spaghetti. Sort of hodge-podge and incongruous and gives you agita for a long time afterward.
Your visit to PA sounded fun! I haven't been to Hershey in ages.
I agree that TLC rented basic RVs, but hey, they got drivers, so there's that.
Also, I bet dollars to donuts that the RVs were more film set than sleeping quarters and shared bathroom. Like Kate would share a bathroom with her kids!

I hope Collin was able to visit with his family this Easter.

Tucker's Mom said...

Over And Out said... 72
More people watched the birth of April's calf than watch the Kate episodes.
April 16, 2017 at 2:22 PM
*****
April is way more maternal ;-)

Layla said...

I'm sure Kate thought her family trip to Mt Rushmore/Yellowstone/Grand Canyon would be first-class airline travel and luxury hotels. She was mad about the motor homes. I think her comment that "we don't take posh trips" was in reference to the accommodations and travel for that particular trip. Surely she could not have believed that trips to Hawaii, Australia, and New Zealand were less than posh. Most people could never afford those kinds of trips, especially if they had to pay for 9 people. But, after being treated to that kind of travel, I think that RVs with bunk beds and going to a laundromat did not meet her standards. That trip was a big FU from TLC. They could easily afford the luxury RVs, but they didn't provide those. I wouldn't hesitate to take a long trip in Aunt and Uncle's RV, but the cramped ones with bunk beds like Kate had would be a little harder to handle. Especially now that I have seen how nice those things can be!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#76), and I'll be April is a better dancer.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

So Brownie is a FORMER teacher, eh? That's a red flag. That's a good career, and usually once people go to through all the trouble getting into education they stay there. She seems a little all over the place to me, blah-blahing about this and that venture, chasing down random D lister celebs, apparently working for years now angling a spot on this stupid show. And quite frankly, it is a red flag to me a TEACHER, someone who would have gotten some training in child psychology and in how to effectively communicate with children, and is a mandatory reporter, wouldn't see the problem in how Kate treats her children.

She could have a very legitimate and reasonable reason to leave teaching. But I've yet to hear it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Admin (#54), good point, it hadn't occurred to me that TFW might be reluctant about doing something without TLC's approval. But that leads me to wonder, did she need their approval to endorse that beauty box,
or that energy tea? Just how deep do her contractual connections reach?


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Good question. If she's worried about unapproved quotes on merchandise, she may very well need to run every scam and swindle by the powers that be.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

That is not a party menu. Kate is trying to impress the viewers by showing off what sophisticated tastes her kids have. She doesn't care that most of the guests might not appreciate that kind of a spread.


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I think you're right. She was showing off her twins' "sophisticated" tastes, and hers. Yeah Kate, salmon and basil pesto is just so 1 percent! Lol, what a doofus.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Milo just makes me want to scream and barf at the same time. She needs to tell everyone not to give dogs chocolate? Is she for real? As if every dog owner doesn't know not to feed chocolate to a dog. Sheesh.

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These are sheeple. And they're really, really stupid sometimes. I give Milo a pass there. Without Milo's warning, somebody's dog would be dead by tomorrow from that crowd.

Tucker's Mom said...

Which one of Kate's fans was/is the cougar-lady who loves younger male celebs? She used to talk to them like she was a 20-something and loved photo ops with them.
Seemed like there was always a boy toy flavor of the month.

Anonymous said...

The lieing b**tch posted an old PR pic with the eight of the kids as her Easter pic and the sheep believe Collin is back. Idiots !!

laurajean

Anonymous said...

Excellent point Admin. @79 - as a teacher she is a mandatory reporter.

bm

laurajean said...

The lieing b**tch posted an old PR pic with the eight of the kids as her Easter pic and the sheep believe Collin is back. Idiots !!

Ingrid said...

I googled "Consider the source & MOVE ON"
There are a couple links that have it. So did they also illegally quote the queen of stupidity?
Idiot sheep.

Rae Barnes said...

Thanks for the recap admin, much better than actually watching them. Kate is a twit ** great catch with the liar begging for toys for her dog, her forgetting her post that totally contradict it!! Why would someone stock up on such a ridiculous item, if it was for his health or safety I could see wanting a supply. Otherwise just more junk cluttering up space. Oh well when has anything made sense of things she does or says. Hope everyone had a nice Easter!

Jillygee said...

Jon posted this comment on his IG in response to a comment that looks like was deleted.
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jongosselin1@hisforeverr I never will in social media, so if that's what you want go to her page! Thank you. I make their life private!!!!

Ingrid said...

I took a peek at the comments on her Easter IG photo. Came across this...

"kateplusmy8More K+8 are coming this summer! ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‰ @5secondsofbryn96"/

We will have to wait and see if she knows what she is talking about or if they change the start date again.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate put out a Happy Easter post, using a TLC stock photo of the family posing for promotional materials.
So, so warm and fuzzy!

Anonymous said...

Stock photo used for Easter greeting confirms Collin still not home after almost a year away. Kate plus 7 wishing all a Happy Easter.

bm

Sad but true said...

So K8 has posted a promo photo taken by TLC at least 12 months ago that includes all 8 of the kids, captioned "From our family to yours, Happy Easter." It's the one with her in that electric blue no-shoulder blouse, skinny jeans, and those inexplicable cream-colored pumps. Of course, now all the fans are exclaiming "Yay, Collin!" As if they think he's back.

There really are no depths to which she will not go. Of course, she's not correcting anyone's erroneous assumptions about Collin being back. I didn't think it was possible, but she's just sunk to a level that I didn't believe existed. One disgusting PoS.

Formerly Duped said...

Yeah, an old picture. Why say 'from our family' and pretend all is well? She should have stuck with the dog wearing rabbit ears and leave it alone...the photo is not even too flattering of a few of them..are there no more with Collin, just this old promo shot? He looks perfectly fine btw in this one

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Posting that old family picture is a blatant con. She is pathetic.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I wish Radar would bust TFW on this old photo scam.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#83), are you thinking of Mrs. Uggs?

Jamesvader1194 said...

So i guess TLC has a strange devotion to Kate.Cause i don't believe this is about money anymore,with Collin gone and piss poor ratings,i cant think of a logical reason TLC would sign on for more.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


She could have a very legitimate and reasonable reason to leave teaching. But I've yet to hear it.
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WTF? She doesn't owe you an explanation of her career choices. For you to assume she left teaching for some "red flag" reason just speaks to what a nasty person you are.

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The red flag is that this woman persisted for over five years until finally she got to spend an afternoon alone with some random D lister's children she doesn't know from Adam. The truth is often nasty. And f-ing beyond creepy. Like, beyond.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Your claim was that being a "former" teacher was a red flag. Try defending that ridiculous claim instead of changing your story.


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It IS a red flag. So is her contact with that pervert. Is that why she no longer teaches?? Stop considering her in a vacuum and wake up. Why did Kate lie and imply she's currently teaching? Why did Kate lie and not mention she's just a fan? Get real.

renee said...

Mady doesn't need to drive or want to drive. She believes she is a celebrity what w/her NON-fictitious Nanny driving her about! Lol!

RoxyHelen said...

Collin is the tup with love for drawing and some skill, as far as I remember. Too bad he couldn't be there for his sisters' birthday. I wonder if Mady and Cara thought about that too.

Tucker's Mom said...

RoxyHelen said... 102
Collin is the tup with love for drawing and some skill, as far as I remember. Too bad he couldn't be there for his sisters' birthday. I wonder if Mady and Cara thought about that too.
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I can't imagine that Collin's brothers and sisters' lives aren't at least tinged with sadness, if not abject sorrow and even fear.
TLC and Kate have conspired to sanitize Collin's situation and are counting on the masses who've watched the show to just accept the pablum they feed to them, and suspend reality and disbelief as they continue to film and line their pockets.
This isn't Jon, a vocal adult who went his own way after filming for a few years. This is a BOY, with zero ability to let anyone know where he is or what's happened to him.
I find this beyond concerning and am dumbfounded at the lack of questioning on behalf of the media.

Tucker's Mom said...

renee said... 101
Mady doesn't need to drive or want to drive. She believes she is a celebrity what w/her NON-fictitious Nanny driving her about! Lol!
April 17, 2017 at 1:57 AM
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You know, I never put that together before. These kids have been driven around by the hired help all of their lives. Why be independent when you are chauffeured around?

Tucker's Mom said...

It IS a red flag. So is her contact with that pervert. Is that why she no longer teaches?? Stop considering her in a vacuum and wake up. Why did Kate lie and imply she's currently teaching? Why did Kate lie and not mention she's just a fan? Get real.
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At its most basic, this situation is concerning. Kate's history of using super fans to do her favors and watch her kids is concerning.

Did Kate or TLC do even a cursory background check on Brownie and Emily and whomever else she's allowed to be near her kids? Did Steve?
Speaking of "security", any personal security professional worth a damn will tell a celeb-especially one reportedly threatened as much as Kate has been (according to Steve)- that using or hiring an obsessed fan is a non starter. Period.
It also seems that every single fan or volunteer that has come to help over the years has been chewed up and spit out.
A scorned super fan is not a risk Kate should be taking.

Tucker's Mom said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 97
Tucker's Mom (#83), are you thinking of Mrs. Uggs?
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Maybe that's who it was! It was a women-looked to be in her 40's- who loved to do meet and greets and tweet to younger male celebs.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#103), your comment just reminded me of Gumgate. When poor C got a speck of gum on his lovey, and his dear sweet mother insisted it was going in the garbage. Mady defended C, at what was probably her own peril.

Those 8 children, for better or worse, traveled through most of their lives as a group. I can't imagine there is not at least some pain, if not a profound sense of loss, to have a member of that group gone.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

A scorned super fan is not a risk Kate should be taking

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It's not a matter of if but when the next deranged fan will hurt a celebrity. Maybe it won't be Kate but someone's number is up. Why increase your risk of such an encounter by giving them unfettered access to your children and family? It's simply stupid.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#108), you'd think the Blankinship situation would've been a wake-up call to TFW. I'm guessing he didn't "look" like a pervert out of central casting, that you'd cross the street to avoid. But this man had access to uncut footage of her children in various stages of undress, and was brought up on child pornography charges.

Formerly Duped said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 107
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I agree. Since they were treated as a six-pack in identical clothes and routines and no room for individual likes and dislikes, surely the 5 remaining tups must miss their brother even if he was the odd man out at times. It seemed the three boys were always close. They must have wondered at his poor treatment ( Hannah talked about it to Jon) and could be frightened the same thing could happen to another- maybe Alexis. Or they could have adapted TFW's views that the family had to send C away to keep functioning and to 'help' Collin. Who knows. I did note that C was treated meanly by his sisters at times, but who can know the full extent of his banishment at home or what the kids think about it. But it must affect them.

Was he really locked in a windowless room? Were his hands tied? Was he prohibited from associating with the others? Was home schooling really needed? Was he prevented from eating at the table or fed randomly? Were his chickens gone before he was? Did he know he was going away? Gives me shivers to think about him.

Sad but true said...

If K8's really got a season coming this summer, they must be planning to film the crap out of the kids over the next couple of months. We all know there'll be a b'day party episode. And, no doubt, another vacation. WTF else IS there at this point? More puppy training? Can this get any more tedious?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I can't answer your questions, because unlike you I do not watch every episode of the show and dissect each frame of film. I

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If you didn't even watch the episode, which is your prerogative, you have no right to scold me for seeing what I saw and getting a very bad feeling about the situation, nor to question my statement that Kate was at the very least extremely misleading about this woman. Go watch for yourself if you think there is a different interpretation. Otherwise you're just trolling. If anything ever happens to this family god forbid due to Kate's recklessness and poor judgment about people, that's on everyone who looked the other way on incidents like this. Including *you.*

GollyGee said...

Way to go, Admin!

Hang in there! You're doing great!

Oh, definitely, it is on them! The ones that have their ears covered, eyes covered and their mouths glued shut.

They won't hear the truth, see the light or speak up for the children that have been horribly abused by this nothing called their mother.

Sad but true said...

This is destined for deletion.

johnpaulbachmann Collin lived a childhood of physical and mental abuse, well documented, dished out by Mama Dearest. Apparently she's not done using him yet ..

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Formerly Duped (#110), your comment tugged at my heart. We've seen dozens of episodes that involved the G kids packing
for a trip. I can't bear to think about TFW packing C's belongings for his trip to the facility. Which, every day, is looking more like it may be a one-way trip.

But here we are, almost a year later, and TFW is blithely posting about rubber chickens and Easter baskets and energy tea. And she cunningly posted a family picture yesterday to try to fool the world
(Robert's book title sure was spot on) into thinking that boy is finally home with his family. She is a horrible mother.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

It just occurred to me -- after a year, C has probably outgrown some of his clothes.
Has someone gotten him new ones?

jamesvader1194 said...

@Sad but true If they're filming and Collin is still gone,how are Kate and TLC going to explain to viewers about why he's been gone for a year now?I would hope that most causal Kate fans(not the blind loyal ones.)would be wondering about his absents and will criticize Kate like last time for filming another birthday without him.On the other hand,i still believe the theory that Collin has been home all this time and Kate wont reveal him until the Magazine scoop.

Sad but true said...

jamesvader1194 said... 117

If she actually is hiding the news that Collin has come back in order to do some big reveal either in People or on her show, to me that is grounds for taking ALL the kids away. It just highlights how these children are nothing but a paycheck for her. I can't imagine she would do this, but then again, every time we think she's gone as low as she can go. . . .

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#118), yes, that's the thing -- we can't put anything past that woman. There are no depths to which she won't sink. Do you remember the day the People story about C broke, and this blog was flooded with posts from current and former posters? We thought surely that would be the end of TFW -- capitalizing from her son's personal struggles. Who wouldn't be saddened and sickened by seeing her smiling mug on a magazine cover, giving details about a very private family struggle, and collecting a paycheck for it? But TLC certainly didn't care, and filming continued.

So would it surprise anyone if it turns out C is back home, and TFW is, like Jamedvader
says, saving the "big reveal" for a People spread? Nothing is beneath her. Nothing.

Anonymous said...

Sad but true @ 114 - hard to be believe but that comment is still there - this must be spa day and she hasn't bothered to check her IG.

bm

Formerly Duped said...

I hope Collin is home. If he isn't, maybe TFW at least would mail clothing and essentials, maybe even gifts to him if she doesn't actually see him. I feel a little leery of thinking of what has been happening to Collin since it would be just like TFW to use him, his issues and his 'cure' to make herself look good. I can picture her crying tearlessly about how hard it was without him, but the sacrifice was worth it. Wonder if any locals have seen Collin at all?

Tucker's Mom said...

jamesvader1194 said... 117
@Sad but true If they're filming and Collin is still gone,how are Kate and TLC going to explain to viewers about why he's been gone for a year now?I
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What Kate has and will continue to use to her advantage is the acrimony with Jon, therefore, gee, she can't really elaborate about Collin because Jon will somehow thwart Collin's progress or capitalize on it (pot or kettle?). In addition, Kate will use any court orders to her advantage, as a shield to protect her, and she will use that to shut people down and feel like they really can't press her for details.

Tucker's Mom said...

. I can picture her crying tearlessly about how hard it was without him, but the sacrifice was worth it. Wonder if any locals have seen Collin at all?
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I kinda doubt that Collin is home because Jon just gave an interview saying he doesn't know exactly where Collin is. I can't imagine that his 4 visiting kids would blab that news to him, even inadvertently.
Their long-estranged brother is finally back in the house and they are so blasรฉ about it that they don't give it a mention?
I don't think Collin will just be reinserted back into the home without MAJOR readjustment.

GollyGee said...

I wouldn't put anything past her.

Because you know he has to have really grown if he was were he would get fed more properly than what his anti-caloric mother would of fed him, if he would of been home.

What IF she grifted for boys clothes from stores because A and J LOVE them and she gets them and Fedex's them to Siberia to Collin?

She wouldn't bat an eye to use his brothers to save her some money for her personal self. I think when Collin does come back on tv or spotted, he will have gotten much taller and gained the proper weight for a boy his age.

Shameful that TFW didn't let Collin have art lessons from a real art teacher. That would have tremendously helped him.

Her day is coming. You eventually reap what you sow. Some take longer than others but it does come.

He promises in His Word. And His Word never returns void.

Sad but true said...

Formerly Duped said... 121

If he's MIA for a SECOND birthday, then she's gonna have some explaining to do. I think even her more devoted fans will question what sort of treatment a child who exhibited very few "issues" on camera for the first 8 or so years of her shit-show could be undergoing, while residing outside of the home and without any apparent involvement on the part of the parents, for that duration. If that doesn't raise some red flags for people---e.g., maybe KATE is the one with the "issues," not Collin---I don't know what will.

Tucker's Mom said...

If TLC and Kate film another best-ever birthday, especially the big "teenagers now" event that fans have been talking about since they were 3, it will be beyond strange and cruel to do it without Collin.
I'm counting on that party being an episode. Collin will get a brief mention before Kate explains away how important it is to throw some crazy-ass 1% party for the remaining 5 tups.

Sad but true said...

Well, looks like she got rid of the johnpaulbachmann comment but replied to this:

gmoney19511950 So is COLLIN home???? Or this is a old picture that you want people to think he's back!!!

kateplusmy8 Its a family pic that I had handy... :) It doesn't really worry me what people think. It's our family and we wanted to wish everyone a Happy Easter!:) @gmoney19511950

Yeah, it's probably one of the last family pics she had with all 8 kids.

jamesvader1194 said...

@Tucker's Mom Nothing would surprise about Kate if she told Collin to not be in the photos she took of the 5 other kids.Although i checked her IG and notice how she's avoiding the person question about Collin.gmoney19511950 So is COLLIN home???? Or this is a old picture that you want people to think he's back"!!!And here is her reply kateplusmy8 Its a family pic that I had handy... :) It doesn't really worry me what people think. It's our family and we wanted to wish everyone a Happy Easter!:) @gmoney19511950

GollyGee said...

I agree, sad, but true!

Not one BBDAY EVAH, but, TWO BBDAY EVAH?

Man, she's one COLD monster. Horrible mother.

Tucker's Mom said...

.gmoney19511950 So is COLLIN home???? Or this is a old picture that you want people to think he's back"!!!And here is her reply kateplusmy8 Its a family pic that I had handy... :) It doesn't really worry me what people think. It's our family and we wanted to wish everyone a Happy Easter!:) @gmoney19511950
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What a weird response and way to handle the question. Kate would have been better off not answering at all.
It's not hard to glean that the photo is at least a year old and part of TLC's promotional materials. Her actual response is just grade school nose thumbing.

Did Kate post pics of the kids' Easter baskets this year?

Tucker's Mom said...

Just the fact that Kate dodges the question about Collin with an immature "La, la,la la, la, la...I can't hear you! I don't care what you believe!" is so immature and defensive.
She's hiding something and it's so obvious. Either Collin is home and she wants to keep it under wraps, or Collin is still God knows where, and she's not talking about it until someone pays her to do so.
And by that, I mean gives her another photo shoot payday and magazine feature.

localyocul said...

"kateplusmy8 Its a family pic that I had handy." What? It's a promo shot! An Ad! How sad

FlimsyFlamsy said...

What kind of mind games is TFW playing with that post? Is she admitting C's not back, and saying it's nobody's business?
Or is she pretending he's back, but she just didn't feel like taking a new picture?

Years ago, TFW admitted she made her life our business. The perks from that decision have been mind-boggling. But in the bargain, millions of fans came to care about her young son. How dare she pretend he never existed.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Localyocul (#132), you mean you don't have a folder full of publicity pictures of your family taken by a TV network? How mediocre!

Anonymous said...

A family picture she had "handy"? It's a stock TLC promotion picture fgs. How many pictures has she posted of the puppies who seem to have replaced lovable Collin.

bm

Tucker's Mom said...

localyocul said... 132
"kateplusmy8 Its a family pic that I had handy." What? It's a promo shot! An Ad! How sad
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How about a snapshot of your kids dressed for Easter Sunday services?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I find it very ironic that it was Kate who did the whole big People spread and announcement about Collin in the first place. Now when people would like an update she blows them off. She opened the door to this whole thing, she should close the loop. It's immature and manipulative to dangle a carrot this big in front of the public then get mad when people would like a little follow up. And she tried to sneak that photo by hoping no one would point out that Collin is really missing. It was misleading, her game as of late.

NYY Julianna said...

Just the fact that Kate dodges the question about Collin with an immature "La, la,la la, la, la...I can't hear you! I don't care what you believe!" is so immature and defensive.

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Happy spring to everyone!

I am teaching a course on 18th and 19th century poets this summer, and while doing some refresher research, I came across The Marriage of Heaven and Hell by William Blake and I had to think about Kate. He wrote, "The fool who persists in his folly will become wise."

Kate doesn't learn from her mistakes. No matter what she does, she keeps trying to fool her fans, thinking she can pull the wool over their eyes, never scrutinizing her actions and as such, she will never become wise. She doesn't work through her failure, nor does she acknowledge her character weakness and therefore no wisdom will ever come to her. Sad, isn't it?

Joy, I admire your passion for your college basketball teams. Do you have a favorite MLB team? Go Yankees! So far, so good, but I've learned not to hold my breath.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Agree Flimsy and that's the thing is that for as damaged goods as that boy was to her, she can't change the fact that viewers of the show care. The plain and simple fact is that many viewers who watch people on tv long enough especially children start caring about outcomes. And she keeps spitting in their faces when they are asking questions only natural for those who have grown to care and become invested. It's very callous to disregard their concerns.

Tucker's Mom said...

It's very callous to disregard their concerns.
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And to respond with her passive-aggressive snippets followed by smiley-winky emoticons.

Have a nice day ;-))))))))))

FlimsyFlamsy said...

NYY Julianna (#138), nice to see you posting. Your class sounds very interesting!

I wonder if TFW is working on a book about what happened with C. At first I thought she'd only do it if he got better and/or came back home. But I don't think that is of much consequence to her. In fact, it might be better for her Martyr Mommy image for him to still be gone, and to let the fans imagine her crying herself to sleep every night. As if.

Kate is a twit said...

Don't know if Kate plus 8 will be returning this summer as Kate states, but the show will definitely be returning. Here's a press release from Discovery Communications dated March 28, 2017, that states that the show will be back.

https://corporate.discovery.com/discovery-newsroom/tlc-announces-an-aggressive-2017-2018-upfront-slate-with-120-more-hours-of-original-programming/

Sad but true said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 141

Don't know how she'll be able to carry off crying in her room if she keeps posting cutey-pie pix of Nunu bedding down with her every other night.

As for a book: Does she dare? There are too many people who know too much, not least her own kids. Would Mady and Cara sit back and let her publish something about their brother and the "family dynamic" that they knew not to be true? We all know that Collin has been browbeaten and bullied by her (not to minimize the documented physical assaults) quite openly on the show. Does she really want to try to go there in print? I think not.

Something interesting I found on the TLC FB page the other day. They have been airing a new show, "She's in Charge," about an older African-American woman (rather improbably named "Pooh") who is a tough-love advice type. Anyway, looks like only one season will be happening. The show's numbers were consistently in the 400-500K range, and the last THREE episodes are going right to TLCgo and won't be aired in primetime. K8 better look sharp---her show is clearly much more expensive and her numbers last time out weren't much better than this.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


And to respond with her passive-aggressive snippets followed by smiley-winky emoticons.

Have a nice day ;-))))))))))

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She doesn't have empathy. She wouldn't care two hoots if a child of someone she knows were sent away. Wouldn't bother her in the slightest. I question whether she cares her own child is sent away, seems to me she's moved on as she always does when people go away. I think what's happening here is that viewers, unless you're narcissistic yourself, are just naturally empathetic to Colin and his situation. Many parents are raising a child of their own with special needs, or at least have someone special in their lives with special needs, which caused people to relate to this all the more intensely. She's not understanding that people are relating, people care about the kid, people like the kid, he's a favorite of viewers, people want good outcomes for a kid they've been watching on TV since he was in diapers. And to NORMAL people, these kids aren't expendable like characters in a play. Normal people understand they are real people and you can't just write one out of the scene because it's not working and then the actor will get a job somewhere else.

She's not counting on ANY of that.

She can't weasel out of this this time. Too late, she splashed him all over TV for ten years and now people actually care. Oops.

NJGal51 said...

She owes her soul to the company store and just maybe she's not allowed to post pictures of the kids all together because she sold her rights to them. TLC owns the trademark to the +8 not TFW and maybe People owns the right to pictures of them because TFW signed a multi cover deal (speculation). If she splashes pictures of the kids all over her IG no one will buy the People magazine when it come out for the tups 13th birthday due to over saturation. Again, I'm just speculating here and Julianna...LET'S GO METS!

Tizzie said...

Danielle Busby sounds like Kate in her latest IG post, hoping that the quints take a LONG nap:

"It's been a fun morning..swim lessons, brunch and then play (or as I like to say "burn energy off so y'all can take a LONG nap"...hopefully ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป"

Anonymous said...

Admin has spoken of how viewers are empathetic towards Collin and his situation. I think people around the world feel the same about Prince Harry. Who can forget the little fellow who walked behind his mother's casket 20 years ago and who has now revealed he has sought help in dealing with his emotions following her death. He is another example of someone we didn't really know but watched through the media as he grew to be a young man. I know I have often wondered how he copes with all the material that has been printed since Princess Diana's death about her troubled life with Prince Charles, the divorce, her affairs and the rumours about his parentage. Caring people feel empathy towards him while acknowledging his special circumstances as a royal prince, knowing that underneath he has been hurting. Just wanted to say I was delighted to read that he has spoken publicly about seeking help because I am sure in doing so he is in turn helping others to do the same. Empathy is not in TFW's DNA.

bm

JoyinVirginia said...

Happy belated Easter to everyone who celebrates! Hope where you ate, yoy are enjoying spring!
Juliana, I don't have a favorite baseball team. Wee have some friends who are devoted Orioles fans, so we keep up with that team a little.
Admin, thanks for the recap! TFMJG, Still boring as ever with manufactured drama. Overly complicated manufactured drama and boring party. I would rather watch April the giraffe do nothing for a month than have to sit thru boring baby pictures. They grew up, TFMJG, get over it!

GollyGee said...

To all the MLB fans, GO BRAVES!!!

GollyGee said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 139
Agree Flimsy and that's the thing is that for as damaged goods as that boy was to her, she can't change the fact that viewers of the show care. The plain and simple fact is that many viewers who watch people on tv long enough especially children start caring about outcomes. And she keeps spitting in their faces when they are asking questions only natural for those who have grown to care and become invested. It's very callous to disregard their concerns.

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This is the reason why I quit watching Dr. Phil. You invest an hour, get instantly sympathetic to the hurting party and you never hear an update on what happened to them. His community boards are the worst to find out updates.

You are just better off trying to remember their names and googling them to find out an update.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

bm (#147), I also appreciated Prince Harry's admission of seeking help for his emotional
issues. No shame in it, and, yes, I bet he'll inspire countless others to do the same.

Princess Diana clearly doted on her boys in a way TFW couldn't fake on her best day.
There was genuine warmth and joy in their relationship. She adored them, and they adored her.

Tucker's Mom said...

Just wanted to say I was delighted to read that he has spoken publicly about seeking help because I am sure in doing so he is in turn helping others to do the same. Empathy is not in TFW's DNA.

bm
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Diana's boys are very special, indeed. It's so wonderful that they both are speaking out about mental health and getting help. What a tremendous message that will no doubt touch thousands, if not millions.
Harry especially is fortunate to have (seemingly) come through the other end of tremendous grief, intact. He had some wild times, and while I as an American love him and how he embraced nakedness in Vegas, I'm so glad to see he's settling down.
Contrast with Kate, who "willed" away postpartum depression because she simply didn't have the time.
Mind over matter!
You can see how Kate would have zero tolerance for any breakdown in her children.
No doubt, we'll see some of her kids acting out for many years.
I think it's odd to think otherwise. No child can absorb the traumas that the G kids have had to endure, and not be affected.
Just the ongoing acrimony between their parents would be enough to tip them over the edge.

GollyGee said...

JoyinVirginia said...148

I would rather watch April the giraffe do nothing for a month than have to sit thru boring baby pictures. They grew up, TFMJG, get over it!

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I didn't think that April was ever going to have that baby! The picture of the mom and dad with their baby was so sweet.

The Twins Birthday. I found it very strange to INSIST that every guest watch the video of Mady and Cara when they were babies and TFW seemed to be attentive to them. I think there was a big reason why she did it. To deflect all of the negativity up till that point about her being a horrible, abusive mother to the kids.

Like Tucker's said, you run a video and people glance at it while they are milling around. The looks on the guests faces told it all. It was a classic gas lighting stunt by good `ol TFW.

Wanna bet she doesn't show the tups baby films at the 13th Best Birthday EVAH special? Oh, she could get by with one. When she came back from her surgery and make over and greeted Hannah. All for the cameras. That poor baby was STUNNED at her mother acting like she actually loved her and was acting like a normal mother would.

GollyGee said...

Also about Jon not knowing where Collin is. Remember when the police came and told Jon that Collin was not at home but somewhere. Could they not tell Jon exactly where he was or were they under some kind of order either from TFW or a judge?

I don't understand this.

GollyGee said...

Had a thought about maybe why the girls are not driving.

They have been driven by whomever and I wonder if TFW is thinking, well, let someone else drive them, they are more experienced and I don't want the girls to get in an accident.

And the reason why if the girls were to have an accident and I pray they don't, TFW would be liable. But, if someone else was driving, they would be liable if they caused the accident.

She puts everything or anything on anybody as much as she can to keep being responsible.

localyocul said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 134
Localyocul (#132), you mean you don't have a folder full of publicity pictures of your family taken by a TV network? How mediocre!

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Well, I only have one, counter her, one kid so....

Tucker's Mom said...

Princess Diana clearly doted on her boys in a way TFW couldn't fake on her best day.
There was genuine warmth and joy in their relationship. She adored them, and they adored her.
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I think because Diana loved her boys and showered them with affection from the moment they were born, they will have the certainty of her love for them forever.
Children KNOW love and they KNOW the absence of love.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

GollyGee (#153), we need to keep in mind that those poor party guests were essentially being held hostage at that event! It was being filmed, and they had signed releases. Even when the party was "officially" over, the guests may have had to stay if the director needed more B-roll footage -- background film of them milling about and mingling.

Believe me, every minute of that day was pre-planned, pre-approved, and budgeted. The fake salmon prep, Brownie and her last-minute crafts, the Jerky party place, the ice cream truck. Everything.

GollyGee said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 151
bm (#147), I also appreciated Prince Harry's admission of seeking help for his emotional
issues.

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Who didn't cry seeing William and Harry walking behind their mother with the card with Mommy written on it?

I can take a guess who didn't.

She was too busy grifting in the early days trying to find a doctor, even an ugly one to marry to take care of her for life.

Sad but true said...

Couple of new comments on that IG photo:

barbgilmer1@beach.dreams1114 it wasn't necessary @gmoney19511950 , I'm sure kate and the rest of us have things we are all going through and people don't need to know everyone's business! I've been saying this for years

johnpaulbachmann "This is our real life - the realest of all reality shows - our lives as they really are". Kate Gosselin has made her children's lives open to the public - even to the invasion of their dresser drawers and mockery of same. Certainly the public is concerned about the fate of the child.

Uh yeah, Barb, that would all be well and good had K8 not put out a People cover and story with some absolutely incomprehensible explanation about why her son was no longer living in his home. But she did, and now she has to reap the consequences. The more she muddies the water, the more questions she's gonna get.

Vanessa said...

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/kate-gosselin-easter-collin-130312/photos/jon-gosselin-throwback-241914

Katespeak article

Tucker's Mom said...

Who didn't cry seeing William and Harry walking behind their mother with the card with Mommy written on it?
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I can't begin to imagine having to face the duty of walking in their mother's funeral procession, as royalty and heirs to the monarchy.
Especially since Diana's death was such a tragic and sudden shock.

Tucker's Mom said...

Vanessa said... 161
http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/kate-gosselin-easter-collin-130312/photos/jon-gosselin-throwback-241914

Katespeak article

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They're glad to see Collin back? Were these people dropped on their heads as children?
It's an old PR photo!!

Tucker's Mom said...

barbgilmer1@beach.dreams1114 it wasn't necessary @gmoney19511950 , I'm sure kate and the rest of us have things we are all going through and people don't need to know everyone's business! I've been saying this for years
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False equivalency, barb. We're not selling our lives and the lives of minor children. We're not selling books and magazines about our lives. We're not telling the world that a son is troubled and not living at home any longer. We're not the ones putting our families on the cover of magazines to make money.
We are most definitely not Kate.
Kate wants to sell a pre-approved, narrative-driven packaged and sanitized version of her life and tell the world it's the realest reality show ever.
Kate can't decry privacy when people want to know what's really going on, after she's the very person who made very private things, public.
Not knowing what happened to Nala is one thing. A 12-year old boy is another entirely.
What the hell is happening to Collin Gosselin?

Sad but true said...

Well, it's all working out just as she intended.

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/kate-gosselin-easter-collin-130312/photos/jon-gosselin-throwback-241914

This is how the article ends:

"We’re thankful Collin is getting the help he needs — but we’re thrilled to see him back with his brothers and sisters!"

I hope someone sets them straight, it is unconscionable that no one bothers to check on these things (TLC has had these same photos posted on the K8 FB page for nearly a YEAR now) and now the entirely false story of Collin being home will gain traction. I have to wonder if TLC passed this along to them or if someone else in K8's camp did.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

GollyGee (#159), to this day, I haven't been able to watch that funeral. I have it recorded on VHS somewhere, but I can't bear to see it. How Diana would have loved on little George and Charlotte!

TLC stinks said...

If Collin is not home still, it is my opinion that he is currently in a group home. Revealing that he is not living with either parent, if that is the case. Something is way off here. Shame on TLC and shame on both parents.

Kate is intentionally deceitful with that post. She can't keep it under wraps about Collin forever. She is to blame. Jon, too. Awful.

Next up will be a coverup on Alexis.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate's Easter night Hail Mary pass is picking up a tiny bit of traction online. Here's the responses on Yahoo!


Avatar
disgusted 3 minutes ago
Collin won't conform to Hitler Kate's rules so he was sent off to school. She is a horrible person.
Reply 1
Avatar
Mg 8 minutes ago
She is a terrible mother. Seriously, I've seen pimps use people less.
Reply 1
Avatar
BPM 21 minutes ago
She sucks...


No one's buying it, Schmoops ;-(((((((((

Anonymous said...

Right Barb "...people don't need to know everyone's business..." but Kate has made it her bu$ine$$ to sell her children's lives because it suited her purpo$e. Now that one of the eight has been missing for close to a year the public are concerned about his welfare. Including that child in the family Easter greeting without mentioning his absence from the family, doesn't relieve that concern people have for him and his welfare.

bm

Tucker's Mom said...

How Diana would have loved on little George and Charlotte!
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Oh, yes! That, and Diana would have done so much more good for the world.
I still look back and think about how senseless it was to engage in a high-speed chase just to evade paparazzi.
It's not worth it.
Who the heck would want to be famous or infamous in today's world?

Confused said...

I hope someone sets them straight, it is unconscionable that no one bothers to check on these things (TLC has had these same photos posted on the K8 FB page for nearly a YEAR now) and now the entirely false story of Collin being home will gain traction. I have to wonder if TLC passed this along to them or if someone else in K8's camp did.
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If he has not returned, why would Kate and TLC want people to think he has, only to discover he's still gone when the show comes back on?

swimgirl said...

beach.dreams1114@gmoney19511950. Was that comment necessary? Do you feel better now that you made the nasty comment? Why would she post a pic of her children and not include him.
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Why would she have a televised birthday party when one of the birthday kids was missing?? Why would she say it was the bestest birthday ever when one of the birthday kids was missing?

These sheeple have the shortest memories. I still can not get over the fact they threw a lavish televised birthday party without Colin. The party should have been private. It was heartbreaking. She truly will do anything for money.

Sad but true said...

Confused said... 171

In order to generate some buzz in advance of the show's return? Make it a guessing game prior to the big premiere in order to get viewers to tune in to find out? Who knows why they do what they do? Do you doubt that this could be a PR plant? You're entitled to your opinion, but that is what it looks like to me. Let's not forget that this is the same network that orchestrated (and paid for) K8's divorce, urging her to file first after it had already been decided they would file jointly. All in order to make Jon look like the bad guy and K8 like some sort of Madonna, claiming she HAD to take this step in order to "save her family." I am sure there are dozens of such instances over the years. K8 and all her "chaotic fun" are an invention of TV-land, no more and no less.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

9511950 , I'm sure kate and the rest of us have things we are all going through and people don't need to know everyone's business! I've been saying this for years

$$$

That's true, but the rest of us keep private. Kate opens and closes the floodgates whenever she feels like it, on her terms and at her whim. You can't have it both ways.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

There's an old story out there not sure if it's true about that heartbreaking funeral where Harry was telling William he didn't want to walk out in public like that. And William told him just stare at your shoes, don't look at anyone else. Throughout the procession indeed Harry is looking at his shoes while the crowds are crying out Diana's name and sobbing. What brave boys. By all accounts their father really pulled it together after she died and stepped up as a parent, became more hands on and emotionally supportive. That was unexpected and I'm sure it helped. Kate reportedly adores him.

NJGal51 said...

On Milo's IG today (with a picture of the puppies):

"Isn't TODAY....the DAY....Back on April 18,2016 these two sweet #Furbabies came into your life? Correct me if I got this wrong...(smiley face) Just wanted to acknowledge this one yr event....You SURVIVED puppyhood times two! (heart)"

TFW had better do some tap dancing and get the bestest dog birthday party ready so that she can post pictures as the 7 scream with delight and fawn all over them. I wonder if Zorro will help bake the puppy friendly/safe cake. My puppy's first birthday is on Thursday and I'll probably only cook him a small steak. I guess I'm just a bad mom.

NJGal51 said...

Wait, there's more!

TFW answered: "No not today...@milloandjack2016 I will post on their bday, but thanks...

miloandjack2016 @kateplusmy8 "LOL. Well I had good intentions! Better I extended my heartfelt #HBDCongrats to them NOW...then forget altogether! I meant well...(smiley face with halo) #SorryForJumpingTheGun"

Well, their birthday is either today or tomorrow because I know they're only a day or two older than my bully.

GollyGee said...

Sad but true said... 173
Confused said... 171

In order to generate some buzz in advance of the show's return? Make it a guessing game prior to the big premiere in order to get viewers to tune in to find out?

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This reminds me of years ago on Dallas, the frenzy about who shot J.R.

If Jon doesn't know where Collin is and either she is hiding him in the house and lying about him being gone or he is in a group home.

And what is sad is that she is lying and doing magazine covers, tabloids and she gets paid for it. I hope if the tabs can prove she lied about what they reported on her word, I hope they sue her. Wouldn't that be something!

Tucker's Mom said...

That's true, but the rest of us keep private. Kate opens and closes the floodgates whenever she feels like it, on her terms and at her whim. You can't have it both ways.
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I'd go further and say that Kate lies, manipulates, deflects and presents an "on stage" persona of her family, and sells it as "real".
That's the thing. It's not real!
Moreover, Kate has used her Christianity, her refusal to selectively abort and her motherhood in general as a never-ending free pass and shield against anyone who DARE question her choices. As if any of those things give her carte blanche to be beyond reproach and beyond having to answer to anyone regarding the horrible way she's treated and used her children.
I bet we ALL have known someone like Kate, who will shame and "how dare you!" and "who do you think you are!" if you deign to stand up to her. She's very good at shutting people down, whether it's a 3-year old that she brow beats and looks askance at, or whether it's the public whom she looks snidely and defiantly at through the lens of a camera.

Anonymous said...

That story about William and Harry walking behind Diana's casket reminds me of my father's funeral. He was a pedestrian killed by a young driver. I was 23 at the time and broken hearted. It was the first death in our immediate family. My older brother knew how devastated I was and suggested as we approached the church for the funeral service that I keep my mind on anything except what was happening. I steeled myself to do so and was doing o.k. until the church bell tolled and that hit me in the pit of my stomach. I had forgotten about the bell tolling for the funeral and I completely lost it. I had heard the bell toll for other funerals through the years but this time it was for my beloved Dad and nothing could erase that from my mind.

bm

Tucker's Mom said...

K8 and all her "chaotic fun" are an invention of TV-land, no more and no less.
*****
That's what this entire decade-long circus distills down to.
Money, media manipulation, PR stunts and treating the adoring public like mushrooms: in the dark and fed just enough shit to keep them happy.

Tucker's Mom said...

Why would she post a pic of her children and not include him.
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Why? Because Kate has been peeing-herself hap, hap, happy all over TV and social media since Collin was sent away?

NJGal51 said...

From TFW's IG account:
"Bought this duck toy for the puppies but Shokas motto is 'What's theirs is mine and what's mine is mine' so he claimed it! Oh well! He's the King of the king shepherds her so it's fine! #OurDogsRuleMyInstagram #Oops"
August 21, 2016 - The picture shows Shoka with a purple duck. So much for his only wanting the chicken of the exact color and style.

OK, I'm done for now. Can you tell that I was sitting in a meeting bored to tears?!

Dmasy said...

bm - your memory is heart-wrenching. Thank you for sharing.

You reminded me. I kept it together for my father's funeral...until. He had served in the military (WW II) and the VFW honored him with a gun salute. The sound of the guns was so loud that I thought they must have pierced the clouds. We are a family of seven children. Each of us was given one of the spent cartridges.

Today, I am remembering.

Dmasy said...

bm -- I just had to go and find that big brass bullet from the funeral. I wasn't sure where I had saved it. Thank you for bring a special memory to my mind.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

NJGal51 (#177), ahhh, Gladys at her LOL,
passive-aggressive finest. She wanted praise for remembering, but she got the date wrong, and now has to play victim.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Gosh, TFW was awfully friendly to Gladys the other day when there were free rubber chickens in the equation. But she sure gave Gladys a curt response about getting the puppies' birthday wrong.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm young enough that we had a lot of restrictions as young drivers. I'm of the era where we were finally digesting how much riskier it is for teens behind the wheel. It was at least a year before I was allowed to drive anyone without an adult also in the car. There were lots of other rules about curfew and such that I don't remember. None of those restrictions deterred us though so I'm not sure that's it.

Dmasy said...

I guess this was meant to be a sentimental day. I am doing paperwork for our little HOA. (I am the secretary.) I have the movie, Hoosiers, on in the background. I am an Indiana farm kid.

I was thinking of my dad who remembered the actual game where a team from a very small town won the state championship. He said that the radio in the house couldn't get good reception. So, he went out the the car and sat in the cold March weather listening to the remarkable game.

Good movie. Good memories.


Sad but true said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 187

That's cuz K8 was saving this as a Big Birthday Surprise, probably her next big IG post. And Milo just stole a march on her. You bet she's pissed.

Kate is a twit said...

Well, their birthday is either today or tomorrow because I know they're only a day or two older than my bully.
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I guess Milo wasn't paying attention or forgot to write it on her calendar that the puppies were born April 19, 2016. On IG, Kate wished them a Happy 4 month birthday on Aug. 19, 2016.

kateplusmy8Happy 4 months, our much adored Mak and Nanuq! You've grown so much since we met you the day you were born! You are natural therapy for all of us and are a huge source of joy and unconditional love! And thank you Shoka for your puppies--THE BEST puppies in the world! We love you! #FourMonthsOldToday


Also on the post of her lifting Nanuq dated October 19, 2016, she stated:

kateplusmy8Yes! They are 6 months old today so they are only 3/4 their final weight!!! Probably the last time I'll be able to lift her ๐Ÿ˜ฅ๐Ÿ˜ฅ!

Kate is a twit said...

Kate also mentioned the pups' birthday on twitter when posted the first pictures of them:

Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8 19 Jun 2016
Happy Fathers Day to ALL fathers out there... Including Shoka!
#Mak&Nanuq #BornApril19 #Surprise! pic.twitter.com/PijPmcLFBr

You'd think before making that post on IG, Milo would at least try to find out if Kate ever mentioned the pups' actually birth date. It only took me about 10 minutes to find 3 places where Kate mentioned it.

Tucker's Mom said...

My puppy's first birthday is on Thursday and I'll probably only cook him a small steak. I guess I'm just a bad mom.
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Aww! Happy birthday to your puppy.
Nope, steak is a PRIMO dinner for puppy's birthday! I think steak is #1.
Our spiral ham at Easter is probably #2!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Is TFW hoping to get some People mention with her puppies' surprise (not anymore) birthday post tomorrow? The bar for content over there is pretty low. Here's one of today's scintillating posts: "Find Out What Jill Duggar Dillard's Pals Are Calling Baby #2." Zzzzzz...

Tucker's Mom said...

bm, I'm so sorry for the early loss of your dad. I lost mine suddenly at 17, and I have this seared-in memory of walking behind my father's casket as it was rolled up the church aisle to the alter, for his funeral mass.
Man, that walk took all of our strength and I remember literally holding our mother up so her knees wouldn't buckle underneath her.
It was hard enough in a church, so I can't imagine the eyes of the world being upon me.

Tucker's Mom said...

Good movie. Good memories.

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You never forget moments like that.

Tucker's Mom said...

Each of us was given one of the spent cartridges.

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My brother got the American flag on our dad's casket which was covered at the cemetery.

GollyGee said...

This is an article about the Duggars and it is funny and sad.

Take special note what Jim Bob said about Michelle on the ground.

http://photo.chinatimes.com/20160411002090-260814

Fleecing The Sheeple said...


Has someone gotten him new ones?
Ap

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Gladys is on it, even as we speak. She's trying to find someone to scour the internet for her, looking for deals. I'm surprised she hasn't asked Kate what size unnerwears and 'slacks' she should purchase for him..

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

And that's something a parent really needs to think about if the family is going to be famous. If anything were to happen such that you would really like some privacy, such as finding yourself in some kind of horrific grief over a loss, you're going to have to do it in the public eye. If that were to ever happen to any of the Gosselins, they too would have to grieve at least somewhat in public. It's awful that William and Harry had to go through something like that in public and at such a young age. Their strength is an inspiration. I know Harry feels he was a wreck these past few years, but I don't think he gives himself enough credit. He's come through remarkably well. He's a wartime vet, has dedicated his life to helping other vets especially injured ones, does so much for the mental health community, for Africa, and has his hands in a whole lot of other pots. He has also been extremely careful with who he is going to marry, passing on many women that ultimately were not suited for such a role. He is changing the world on the foundation his mother built for him and she would be deliriously proud of him.

I was never as offended as many people seemed to be over the Queen trying to seclude the family after Diana's death. She had her motives but I firmly believe it was at least in part because she was trying to protect her grandsons. Misguided, maybe, but she does love them and wanted to shield them.

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