Friday, November 3, 2017

Recap: Kate Plus 8 "The Finale": Move over, Angelina Jolie

Still finishing out the last few remaining recaps I haven't done and we now come to the series finale, from September 2011.

If you're wondering why there were about 30 new episodes of this God forsaken mess that aired long after "The Finale" aired, well, you should be. As you may recall from long, long ago, this show really did have a pretty big cancellation announcement six years ago, with tears and regrets and fans in a tizzy. It was 2011, just a hair before television really started to change, for the better (for the most part). There are a lot more platforms to get a series on television these days, and television has been expanding, giving viewers a lot more choices and niche genres. Shows regular networks never would have taken a chance on have thrived on services like Netflix, Amazon Prime or Hulu. This expansion has left a lot more room for shows to get their reunion episodes, or for many, a total revival.

Back in the day, if your series were cancelled, you really were cancelled. You would never be heard from again other than the $9.99 DVD bin at the grocery store. A few very good series got a reunion episode or two, or even a movie, but that was rare.

Some of these revived shows they've put together recently are simply charming and a wonderful throwback, like Full House or Gilmore Girls. Others should never have been messed with, like Boy Meets World and Will and Grace. Kate got her revival too, starting back up again in 2014 to the present, and it never should have happened. The kids were older and more outspoken and disgruntled, and as we now know during much of this time, Collin was having such serious issues he is no longer living in the family home. The family should never have gone back on T.V. post-2011, but here we are.

An unintended consequence of this sea change is that revived shows like Kate Plus 8 seem to be surviving on much lower ratings than they ever could before, and new episodes are being ordered, albeit on obviously lower budgets, when they never would have been before. Voting with your remote doesn't seem to make much of a difference these days, with such low audiences. So in sum, the changing T.V. landscape is great for most shows, but breathes life into a few that shouldn't be here, with little to no way for viewers to get them off their screens.

Another interesting thing that seems to have happened is networks don't seem to be making grand cancellation announcements anymore, not usually anyway. Probably because they want to leave a door open. I'm not even really sure if Kate Plus 8 got the axe again this year; TLC was never really clear. For those whose incomes depend on their series, not just the talent but the local production companies, such treatment is rather cold, but as we learned now more than ever recently, Hollywood is more self-interested and devoid of any morals or accountability than we ever imagined.

Predictably, this show is going to be full of old clips we've seen before, some many times before. But they also do an unusual format for this show where some of the major players sit down for a one-on-one interview, like Steve, Ashley, and Jamie, who remarks that she always tells Kate she's not Angelina Jolie. Baw, she's pretty good sometimes.

Interestedly enough, old clips of Jon are shown, which invokes legal implications, like possibly having to pay him again. I wonder how that all shook out and whether he noticed and demanded his check.

This aired just after the infamous RV episodes, so we're going to rehash all the drama of those. You can review my recaps here and here if you're interested in the finer details, but the short story is Kate actually thinks she did everything on the RV trip and was pleasant at it too, and that was really f-ing obnoxious to those who actually were doing it all and exhausted, like Ashley and Jamie.

Kate is actually blaming her nasty troll-like behavior on that trip on stress and the hot weather. Classic not taking responsibility for her role as chief instigator.

I like how the Kiwis say tense. Sounds like "teens."

This segment goes on and on.

Jamie I think at her heart is a good person with a good head on her shoulders, despite her misguided friendship with Kate. Jamie says fine blame it on stress, but the reality is that is no excuse to treat the people who love you and support you the most poorly. Well, right! Also, I really like how the producers obviously interviewed Kate first, then went tattle-taling to everyone else about what she said to see what they would say. Heh!

This reminds me of a scene in the upcoming season of The Crown, which has had a great opportunity to show itself off thanks to the changing landscape of TV I was just talking about. It is one of the best series I've ever seen, a slow but delicious plod month by month through Queen Elizabeth II's life starting at age 20. (It will go on many seasons as long as it continues to do well. We're only up to her early 30's now.) In it Queen Elizabeth appears to be irritated by everything going to shit around her--the prime minister resigning, her sister on all the front pages of the tabloids, her mother always on her case. All of this makes her job harder. And Phillip, her husband, stares her down and asks her if it occurs to her that she has people in her life who are there for her no matter what.



"If only," Elizabeth replies.

I think Elizabeth has grown tremendously as she's aged, and learned a lot in particular since Diana's death. She wouldn't say something like that now, but I think that incapsulates her when she was younger. And much like Kate, who is also an "if only" person despite being surrounded by those who love her unequivocally, E-2 struggled to grasp and respond to normal love and friendships. It was all duty, country, and preservation of the crown.

The only thing I can say to the lovely Ashley is just get out. This is a toxic relationship no matter how much you love the children and it's never going to change.

Kate is truly, truly a cold woman. When viewing Ashley's outburst on the RV trip afterward, she calls Ashley "over-dramatic." She's outrageous. Can't she just keep that comment to herself and just try to mend things with a nanny that the children love? So unbelievably selfish. She fits right into the industry she so wants to be a part of.

Ha, Ashley says she regrets not saying more on that trip. Good for her.

Steve admits that he too had thought about leaving but he committed to this trip. So noble. Jamie kind of considered it but didn't want to hurt any of the kids including her own so she stuck it out. That's just maturity is all.

Kate says funny enough she and Ashley have never even had a small disagreement before. That's because, doofus, someone like Ashley puts the kids first and hasn't said how she really felt all this time. That was good for the kids, but not for Ashley. It's clear her outburst had been building for years.

It's hard to tell whether they're really going to patch things up or not but Ashley said they did have small talk conversations a few times since and Kate has said she is welcome anytime. Well Kate isn't about to let a lackey go just like that no matter how big the fight was.

Benevolent Kate says she still loves Ashley, Ashley can do no wrong, and it's up to Ashley whether she would like to keep on loving them in return or not. It's unbelievable how insane Kate is. Why can't she understand this has nothing to do with Ashley's love for the children, and everything to do with a young woman finally finding her voice and developing her own personal boundaries? Ashley's maybe 23, 24 here, I don't know. Point being she's around the age where a young person is really delving deep into their feelings and getting to know who they are and what they really want out of relationships even platonic ones. This is the age where you might decide to leave an old friend from high school behind because they've become an alcoholic, finally estrange a parent who is cruel and abusive, and around the time when many people say they had their first "real" relationship with a boyfriend or girlfriend. But love is not something you can just shut off like a faucet. Even if Ashley decides she can no longer be around the family, I can promise you she will always love the children. When love becomes too much to bear because either the person you love or someone around who you love is making you miserable, everyone must eventually make a tough choice.

That wonderful University of Phoenix ad plays again. "What if I swore I'd succeed so you could wake up one day with the choice to be anything you wanted?" Bawling! Bet that hard-working grandma never spent one second wallowing about some sexist pig in the office and posting trite "#Metoo"'s on instagram, and instead just told him to buzz off and then got on with it.



At the time they interviewed the kids for this last episode, no one knew this show was ever coming back. An off camera producer asks some of the sextuplets how they feel about the show ending. The kids look confused by this question. They blurt out canned answers like it's sad, but tellingly, are unable to articulate what about this that is so sad. In fact Alexis says she's sad because she's sad. Wow, the kid doesn't understand this, like, at all! I think they are either so used to this show they don't even realize what it means for it to be over, or if they do this means really nothing to them. But I don't believe they truly feel sad about this, so this idea the show must carry on because the kids need it, as Kate has suggested, is nonsense.

Kate says they owed viewers a last episode that tied everything up. I don't know what that means, tying up your real life as if there's loose plot lines that still need to be resolved like it's the The Walking Dead. But they don't owe the creepy fans anything, and that's step one of her problem.

Kate actually doesn't look sad to me either, even though she says she is. I can literally see the creaky ole botoxed wheels turning, I think she has something in mind that will bring in lots of money after this is over. Most likely a spinoff all about her, maybe a stint as a host on a talk show, some kind of wildly successful product line. She did try things like this after the show was cancelled and absolutely nothing panned out, but point being I think she thought at the time this was the start of her next even better career where she can finally ditch these kids. I swear to God, there is a glimmer of excitement in her eyes she can finally move on to other things.

Weird spa music is playing in the background. I want someone to crack my shoulders!

They show a little bit of Jon and Kate recording the opening segment from the original show, which I actually find rather interesting, because if anything it shows that they are doing what looks like dozens of takes. Jen is there, being a very patient and supportive producer. When they let us in to little behind the scenes moments like this, it becomes all the clearer how heavily produced this show was no matter how much Kate has tried to deny it. It is no wonder a boy with special needs could not thrive to his fullest potential under such conditions.

Kate gives yet another explanation for why they're on T.V. and I swear I've never heard this one before. They owe it to the little old grandmas who sent them 10 bucks here and there. Kate needs to let them know they're doing okay. Huh? Who old ladies what? And why can't you pick up the phone and call your supporters and let them know how you're doing, or get everyone's addresses and send a stupid Christmas letter update every year with a photo? How do you even know these old ladies have cable? I wonder if she's updated the little old grandmas on Collin. He's not doing well, ladies.

Oh, burn, Jamie says the person she met at Reading hospital (I didn't know they met at Reading hospital, was that where the multiples support group was?) was kinder and gentler. Now Kate is all about TV, how skinny she is and what she's wearing. I really can't believe Jamie is saying this! This is the juicy shit you say on secret video tapes to your biographer not to be played for forty years. What's next, Jamie hates Martin Luther King, too? Jamie must have been really upset about the RV trip to just blurt all this out like this. Wow.

Kate says about a million times there's no going back from this. Oh, that's just silly. Americans are the most fickle audiences ever and with rare exception, quickly forget about shows they watched and has-been celebs they were fans of. Try it. Name a T.V. show that was cancelled two years ago and two of its stars. Bet you have to think long and hard, because viewers just forget that stuff and move on to the next show.

A bunch of creepy footage of paparazzi.

I don't remember this story at all, Kate says they did a T.V. spot and a man was hanging around them and putting the kids in his lap. What?! Who was this creep, how did this happen, and why didn't they call security or even the police? Surely even small TV stations have at least one security guard. And shouldn't this have been a huge, huge red flag to you this industry is very dangerous for children? So many questions, no logical answers. After that Kate knew she needed a booby-guard.

Lol, I love when these talking heads unintentionally insult Kate. Steve says he quickly realized after booby-guarding for Kate there was some notoriety here. Heh.

Jon was always ready to quit the show, says Kate. I think that is a pretty big revelation, because a lot of fans have implied that he up and quit just to spite Kate during the divorce. In fact, Kate has unintentionally admitted, quitting had been brewing for him and was no sudden matter or bore any connection to trying to slam her in the divorce.

What's an episode without Kate getting a chance to slam her parents again? Kate rarely if ever left the state growing up and she wanted something different for her kids. Wouldn't you remember whether you left the state or not growing up? And boo-freaking hoo you never went anywhere. It's not like Pennsylvania is 100 square miles. It's a huge beautiful state, with endless things to see and do. You could spend a decade there and never even get close to seeing everything. Also, parents do not owe children trips out of the state. The bigger question is did her parents do the best they could with what they had? Did they do their best to teach their children good values? Did they enrich their minds with good schooling, plenty of books and music? Did they teach and show them love?

Her dad is or was a pastor. No matter what your beliefs are, religious leaders are usually a noble profession and most are very good men and women who often do a whole lot of schooling to not get paid very much. I've never heard one ounce of gratitude for the role he has played in her community. If her dad is like most pastors, he's probably sat up with a family for 18 hours while their toddler gets heart surgery, held the hand of a grandmother dying of cancer and read her scripture, coordinated help for a family who lost everything in a house fire. You're a first responder to the spiritual side of people, and on call all day and night. Nothing, nothing at all ever from Kate about admiration for this?

I think her parents just popped a lemon with this one, because from the bits and pieces we've seen of some of her other siblings, they seem like decent people. I highly doubt her parents were sitting on a pile of money refusing to spend it on the trip Kate wanted to Florida out of spite. Kate is lucky she had a roof over her head, a full belly, great schools and sports, the best medical care around, good friends and a nice safe small town to grow up in. Some families would kill for such a cookie-cutter place to grow up. What an ungrateful waste of space.

Kate said she thought of the kids twenty years from now and what they would think of her decisions, and that influences her choices. How dare she speak for what her kids will think about their lives 20 years from now and how dare she assume her 30-year-old children will be just fine with her decisions just because she thought of what they would think in advance. And how convenient for her that she insists the decisions she makes just happen to be the ones a 30-year-old Gosselin kid would fully support, given that there is no 30-year-old kid yet to consult. What a nut job! It's really not her place to speculate how the children will feel and it's insulting. And if you're paying attention, the narrative has changed again. The show was supposed to be for the little old ladies. Now I think she's realized that answer is stupid, and so she's moved the goal posts to say that if she doesn't do the show her kids will have a piddly growing up existence like she did and because she resents it she's sure they would too. What an assumer and an ass-hat. She needs to read Christopher Robin Milne's books about being haplessly thrust into fame when he was in grade school. All he wanted, all he wanted in the whole world, is to just be a normal boy no kid knows, and get his parents back, his toys back, and his damn woods back. One could just as easily assume a Gosselin kid might grow up and all they want in the world was to have a normal childhood to look back on. Why not assume that just as easily?

Kate says the show has been a great opportunity to "travel" the kids. Travel them? How about, it was a great opportunity for the kids to travel? Awkward phrasing, she makes it sound like the kids are objects, which she's done on several occasions, so this is not a fluke.

Point being, no one knows how these kids will eventually feel about their childhoods, not us, not even their mother. So then why risk it? Why not just give them a normal childhood so you'll never have to worry that they might not eventually like their extremely abnormal one? Selfishness and greed on her part is the answer to this rhetorical question. The only sad thing is she can't admit she exploited the kids for her not for them, and that the grown children may have the biggest problem with of all.

Kate pats herself on the back for about five minutes about how she did it all by her lonesome when the kids were little, again leaving out Jon and the helpers.

People told her they would have liked to just stand at their window and look in. What creepy person said this and was her name Gladys?

One of the few things Kate says that is correct is that over time viewers fell in love with the kids. I think that's true for most fans and non-fans alike. We had some buy in with these kids, we like them even though they have faults, some more than others, and the faults they do have we understand are directly related to an exploited childhood and terrible parenting and therefore forgivable. So, she understands viewers genuinely have a stake here. But doesn't seem to understand much else. The fact that Collin is just gone, poof, for so long, is truly upsetting to fans and non-fans alike, and that's directly related to the years viewers spent watching him grow up and giving a tiny piece of the T.V. portion of our hearts to him. The little bones she throws out there about him are toying, manipulative behavior, like a cat with a mouse, and that's really screwed up.

Kate says she and Jon had vastly different views on how they see the world, which is why the show was interesting. That's true. Here's a little hint, if you and your boyfriend or fiance can't agree on anything, your marriage is very, very unlikely to work. Frankly that goes for Jon too. He should have called this off or spent longer dating her before putting a ring on it. He was only 22, he could have waited another decade to make sure this was right. Now he's paying. Makes for good T.V., but a bad marriage.

Steve says he thinks couples would watch this show and say, thank God I'm not as useless as that. Implying Jon?? Useless? Oh my God! What a jerkwad! Was he paying attention at all when he watched these episodes? Jon did it all including working and caring for the kids and Kate accepted coffee delivered to her bedside when she woke up, then put the kids behind bars all day and gave orders and freaked out about $10 off coupons. No, couples were saying thank God we respect and appreciate each other like she doesn't and are good to our children.

Kate admits after a producer comes up with the idea that maybe the kids like watching the old episodes to see her and Jon together. Well, that's a rather sad though probably true thought and never anything Kate would have come to on her own because she has no feelings.

Apparently Kate's kids are like no other kids in the world and can remember all these things they did as if they were 10, not toddlers, says Kate. Well, we've since learned that's a load of malarky. In the recent trivia episode the kids really struggled to remember much about the show at all. So doing this for the trips was mostly pointless for them. What else ya got?

Lol, Kate is blaming her totally unacceptable behavior on editing. She also blames her nastiness on, get a load of this, the kids asking too many questions of her. She actually says this. She's too much. Poor Kate, no other mother has ever had to deal with why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why why. Well maybe they have, but I bet you not times six! So there!



Mady is parroting Kate's reasons for what she liked the most about the show. We never had time to make our own home videos, Mady echoes. Well, we know that is malarky too, since at Mady's 16th birthday, Kate herself admitted that she was filming every day once the twins were born, and even put together a very long compilation for their birthday. I'm sure there was less time for that once 6 babies were here, but we still saw home videos of them she or Jon took, and surely just whipping out a little camcorder and taping a few moments is far less time consuming than organizing the taping over several days with an entire camera crew. Come on!

She talks about the kids' favorite things and Collin's is the chickens. Aw. She got rid of that little boy and got rid of his favorite things next. Wth, lady!

Alexis has absolutely the most darling Anna Wintour haircut. I never remember seeing that before or since but it's nice to see her have some individually for once.

She's defending cupcake gate again. Man, that incident really bothers her the most of all huh? She says just the other day some of the kids didn't get their cupcakes. That is a stubborn and defensive thing to say. She is twelve.

Kate is still boo-hooing about a divorce that even in this episode was a long time ago. She works up some tearless tears. She says she couldn't make Jon want to be there. Um, it's not that Jon doesn't want to be "there." Jon just doesn't want to be with you, doofus, and since you're always "there" that becomes a problem now doesn't it. And wait a second, didn't she file for divorce? Lol!

Kate is in agreeance over the divorce. Gaa, that word. Well that's good to know, because she was the one who filed.

Kate is defending herself about the divorce again saying they had to do it in public and she did so tastefully and they would have gotten divorced show or not blah blah. There was absolutely nothing tasteful about her embarrassing purseful of bills pity tour and all the below-the-belt comments she made about Jon in various venues. It was pathetic and self-serving. It was basically like Grey Gardens tasteful.

That tough as nails grandmother commercial is back again! I really remain perpetually in awe of the Greatest Generation and what they endured in the name of freedom, especially those who were kids and endured months of bombings straight or in the alternative were sent up north to live with total strangers. I fear we are no longer honoring their sacrifices and have become far too tolerant of the crap they sought to end once and for all, and my God are our feelings ever hurt just like that. I really recommend the Imperial War Museum if you are ever in London. It's comprehensive, incredibly moving, and free. For kids who don't know much about civilian life during WW2, I hope this commercial causes them to ask their parents, what was that bombing about when she was a kid?

Ashley saw the divorce coming a mile away but was in denial, like it was her own parents. Ashley, bless you, but a blind and deaf centipede could see this divorce coming.

I hate when people do what Kate does when telling a story and ask themselves questions and then answer them themselves immediately after. Was I proud of that no? Did I love that? No. Would I like a grilled cheese for lunch? You bet.

Annoying.

The editors are being mean here. When Kate remarks she and Jon have different parenting ideas, they show Jon texting on his phone while Hannah is trying to ask him something. Maybe it was an important text, or something to do with the kids or work. Or even if it wasn't you don't have to leap to attention every time your kid demands something of you, as long as there's a balance. It's fine kids know there are other things going on for their parents besides their spoiled children. How about tell the kid, I just need 30 more seconds to finish up this text I was writing before you started talking to me and then we will talk, okay baby? It's good for them to learn to wait.

Like no parent has ever been on their phone before while their kid is talking to them, including Kate herself. Stop it. In later years, the editors were far more fair to Jon and could be mean to Kate. It's clear they've come around.

There's a whole lot of rambling and fluff here about the divorce, like it just happened. Keep in mind, even in this episode it was three years ago. Yeesh.

The vow renewal episode was not a hoax, Kate insists. A hoax? That's a strong word. I think we just said they knew then they were separating even while taking that free trip, that's all. What's next the vow renewal is going to show up on snopes.com? Eh, I'll call this rumor MOSTLY TRUE.

Kate can't bring herself to say she does not regret the marriage because of the kids she got out of it even though the statement was spoon-fed to her to say. She hates Jon more than she loves her kids.

Did Kate actually just say Jon was there for the family and did anything she asked of him to do. Wha-what! A moment of clarity. Good, glad she said that. Now go tell your lackey Steve and the idiot sheeple to stop re-writing history.

In a flashback, Kate and Jon have a light-hearted laugh over some of the kids insisting they are more Korean than others. I feel like this conversation would be extremely offensive to snowflakes in 2017. They would probably start a hashtag campaign, or want somebody fired.

Oh lovely, the kids nickname that crew member who never showers "Stinky." That is hilarious to a kid, but should be horrifying to a parent. He probably smells like pot, too. That's crew members, folks.

Kate admits there is only one original member of the crew left. Well, that's not surprising at all. Crews come and go. Better or more interesting projects come along, or promotions, or career changes. The idea the children should be encouraged to have such real bonds with such a transient lot is very concerning.

Hm, um um I guess Kate says she will have to get a job now. Uhhh ya think? Go to work, you able bodied woman. Good Lord. Lol, the future holds T.V. and media for me, says Kate. She's so arrogant. You have to get somebody to put you on T.V. first. Oh and um thank you to the cheerleaders, says Kate. Who? Is she talking about the fans, the helpers, both? Could she be a little bit more specific when thanking people?? Why is Kate fake crying? She's not sad at all. She clearly thinks she's winning an Emmy for whatever her next project is.

Without the show Mady says she would have to sit at home and stare at the walls. I'm sure that's the lie her mother tells her. She'll resent this coaching someday. I wonder when Mady realized that not having a T.V. show does not mean a very full and enriching life is cut off from you. And with a little effort a parent can provide endless fun and enrichment that is either cheap or free. A middle class or even poor child can have a good and happy life and the idea that Kate keeps implying that the only path to happiness is to do what she did is nothing but insulting.

This is a long recap. Thanks for bearing with me. It was a full 42 minute episode unfortunately, but it was full of rather notable comments and revelations that just couldn't be glossed over. When Kate is allowed to just run her mouth, recapable stuff always seems to diarrhea out.

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Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 4
Matt Lauer and cronies sound like the Kennedys, with all the secret service agents and other lackeys making sure all the women especially those that passed out drunk or smashed their head on the diving board, get back home from the White House safety and discreetly.

Bullshit they didn't know!
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This is so far from over for NBC. There is no way they didn't know and think they're slick for parsing their statement about this being the first time an employee brought a complaint about Lauer to the higher ups in all the years Lauer was there.
I wouldn't be surprised if MANY incidences were ordered to be handled below the level of the top brass. Sort of a, "make it go away so we have plausible denial", thing.
I heard Merideth Vierra said she knew that Matt kept sex toys in his office.
Hoda knew stuff (I could see that on her face yesterday).
Katie Couric said Matt used to pinch her butt.
Matt has been part of Kathy Griffin's act for a long time. Griffin's schtick is giving the inside celeb scoop and she's maintained Lauer was always the smooth ladies' man at the Today show. He'd bestow affection on the lucky ladies, sidle up to them and put his arm around their waists, like, "Hey, baby".
I guess it made a lot of women swoon that THE Matt Lauer was paying them attention.
Anyway, it's apparent this was the culture at the today show and when you think about Lauer grilling the crap out of Bill O'Rielly, knowing his own history.
OMG.

Tucker's Mom said...

Tucker's, there, I am sure, many attorneys that would love to be the one who got Scott Peterson off Death Row and on the streets again just like Baez got Casey Anthony off for killing Caylee.

^^^^^
Good point. There are also, sadly, no shortage of women who would love to marry Scott.
That's a level of illness I'll never wrap my brain around.

Tucker's Mom said...

OT- I just saw that The Crown Season 2 is coming to Netflix Dec. 8.
Yay!

Tucker's Mom said...

Another OT- Just saw a new Amazon original show that looks fun:
The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel

http://variety.com/2017/tv/features/amazon-marvelous-mrs-maisel-1202625034/

NJGal51 said...

Tucker’s Mom - I just watched the pilot episode of The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel and it’s one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a long time. Amazon hits a home run with this one. It wad also good to see Tony Shalhoub again.

Sad but true said...

Page Six has the story that Lauer will be trying to walk away with $30 million, which is what remains on his contract. It takes some kinda nerve to broach this sort of discussion after you've just dunked your network and your colleagues in the poo.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Page Six has the story that Lauer will be trying to walk away with $30 million, which is what remains on his contrac

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KNEW IT. Let’s see, terrorize women for 20 years, get 30 mil plus ya don’t have to work anymore! Score!

He really has some arrogance given some of these charges are flirting with criminal acts. I predict he’ll be in jail before the year is out.

Also I didn’t know New Zealand vets your character before letting you buy a house. Lol awesome.

Tucker's Mom said...

Also I didn’t know New Zealand vets your character before letting you buy a house. Lol awesome.
^^^^^^
Every country worth living in and with any modicum of common sense and decency when it comes to caring for and about its citizens should do this.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#13), he's probably already trying to score himself an 8-figure book deal, to add more insult to injury.

I wish one of these guys would be honest and say they're only embarrassed and ashamed that they got CAUGHT. I don't buy a syllable of remorse from this douche.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Every country worth living in and with any modicum of common sense and decency when it comes to caring for and about its citizens should do th


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It’s impossible to emigrate there. I followed Trey Radcliffe trying to do it. It’s kind of funny to me when people complain we shouldn’t be tougher on immigration. We are wet noodles compared to them. A little more vetting from the US would have prevented countless deaths.

Tucker's Mom said...

DH was an expat in London for a couple years. He was HEAVILY vetted by G.B. to ensure he was educated, had a job to earn money and wasn't just swooping in taking a job that any old citizen could have done.
What an amazing concept.

AuntieAnn said...

Sad but true said... 12

Page Six has the story that Lauer will be trying to walk away with $30 million, which is what remains on his contract. It takes some kinda nerve to broach this sort of discussion after you've just dunked your network and your colleagues in the poo.

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$30M??! I'm sticking to my theory that this guy isn't going to go down alone. It sounds like extortion..."honor my contract or I'll talk" kind of thing. He's got stories to tell and you can bet he and his legal team are planning his defense this minute. The people he worked with and for apparently knew his reputation so if they're not smelling very fresh right now it's because this is on them too.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



$30M??! I'm sticking to my theory that this guy isn't going to go down alone. It sounds like extortion..."honor my contract or I'll talk" kind of thing.


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The guy is certainly acting like he has the upper hand. Curiouser and curiouser.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I wish one of these guys would be honest and say they're only embarrassed and ashamed that they got CAUGHT. I don't buy a syllable of remorse from this douche.

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No one is honest about their remorse, it's so gross.

If he were really sorry he would have come forward HIMSELF and stepped down, without prompting.

GollyGee said...

But, what about David Letterman at NBC had a secret bedroom in his office! It is ok for snow-ins and not feeling like going home, but not for random romps with the hired help.

For a girl to be summoned to Matt's office and he forced her to bend over and had sex with her and she passed out, isn't that rape? Did he do a Cosby? Slip something in a drink or some water?

Had his secretary take her to the nurse or the hospital?

He should of been arrested for that or at least the NYPD detectives should of gotten his side of the story!

GollyGee said...

Admin, when I saw you posted, Curiouser and curiouser it reminded me of Andy saying that on the show and it also reminded me of Gomer, Jim Nabors who died today.

RIP Jim Nabors

Shazam!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I learned that Laci's body had two broken ribs. I had never heard that before. Also, they found two small spots of blood on the white comforter on the bed. Both spots belonged to Scott. There were speculations on just how she might have been killed that I had never heard.


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We don't get a whole lot of explanation for how exactly they think he killed her. Where, when, with what. How did it start, what was said? I've always thought that was odd. I guess they didn't feel those details were necessary to the bigger picture.

The one thing I will say is I agree that the police never should have told the public Scott was at the marina until they found the body. That was a HUGE mistake.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Golly I see why you’re confused since for some reason the Media can’t bring themselves to say Matt raped a woman. It’s really funny, literally every story will say he made a woman have sex with him, or he had sex with a woman against her will. Um that’s “rape” when they’re talking about anybody else! Apparently he really was everyone’s golden boy.

Sherry Baby said...

It’s really funny, literally every story will say he made a woman have sex with him, or he had sex with a woman against her will. Um that’s “rape” when they’re talking about anybody else! Apparently he really was everyone’s golden boy.

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Not to defend him by any means, because he is a hypocritical piece of slime, but how would they prove rape? Maybe she didn't want to, but unless he held her down, forced her to have sex and there was violence involved, is that rape? Could it be consensual on her part, knowing that if she didn't submit to him there might be consequences for her? I don't get it. If she were claiming rape, then why wasn't she examined, samples taken, etc. and the police notified? Is it up to her to press charges?

I really don't get it. At all.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Not to defend him by any means, because he is a hypocritical piece of slime, but how would they prove rape? Maybe she didn't want to, but unless he held her down, forced her to have sex and there was violence involved, is that rape?

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If you don't want to, it's rape in most states. New York State, where I think this took place, only requires the other person not consent. There is no requirement someone be held down. Someone could threaten to kill you if you try to move, which doesn't necessitate holding you down to rape you.

Soo yeah, what he did was rape.

Generally rape is proved by a combination of physical evidence gathered at the scene and from the victim, as well as the victim's own statements. Rape can be proved by a victim's statements alone. It's up to the judge or jury if she is to be believed, that's their call.

Sherry Baby said...

If you don't want to, it's rape in most states. New York State, where I think this took place, only requires the other person not consent.

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Yes, but what if she did consent? According to reports, she bent over and he had sex with her. Wouldn't that be consent? I mean, she just could have left, couldn't she? I also question why she passed out and had to be taken to the hospital by his assistant. Something seems "off" here. Was she drugged? I guess we'll never know. What we know is that no criminal charges were filed. Is it too late for that?

GollyGee said...

RIP, Gomer!

I like the Sgt. Carter and Private Pyle moments in this clip. It looks like Sgt. Carter finally realized he had respect for Private Pyle when Gomer had respect for Sgt. Carter since day One.

Just wish that they would of had a girl, dressed in a gown with white gloves on up to the elbow, escort Gomer to the spot where he had to be to sing this beautiful song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJlgio-UOng


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJlgio-UOng

NJGal51 said...

Dog pictures, Halloween pictures, braces off pictures and still nothing from Milo. I really do hope that everything is OK with her.

GollyGee said...

NJGal51 said... 29
Dog pictures, Halloween pictures, braces off pictures and still nothing from Milo. I really do hope that everything is OK with her.

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Also, the twins birthday and nothing. No #Sweet17 or Happy Birthday Mady and Cara. Nothing about them. I don't think Milo has EVER missed that.

Either the worst has happened (which I hope hasn't happened)

TFW told her to stop, finally

Or, TFW legally told her to stop

Or, LOM and family told her to stop

Or, LOM told Milo that if he caught Milo tweeting or IG'ing to TFW again, he would divorce and leave

Or the internet has been shut off

The 64K dollar question.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Dog pictures, Halloween pictures, braces off pictures and still nothing from Milo. I really do hope that everything is OK with her.

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Maybe she went undercover and is using a different name.

Sad but true said...

Well, here's hoping this is true, but I seriously doubt he's going to walk away quietly and without a big check in his hand.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/01/media/matt-lauer-payout-nbc/index.html

GollyGee said...

Fleecing the Sheeple said...31

Maybe she went undercover and is using a different name.

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Could be a possibility. Curiouser and Curiouser.

NJGal51 said...

I don’t usually comment on anything political but this is worth a read just for laughs.
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http://thehill.com/homenews/media/362823-clinton-on-matt-lauer-every-day-i-believe-more-in-karma

In the article she says: “Every day I believe more in karma,” Clinton said when asked about Lauer's firing, before lumping him in with several other “men who shaped the narrative” who have been fired over similar allegations of sexual misconduct.”

“The only way we will get sexism out of politics is to get more women in politics,” she added.
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I wonder if she lumps Bill in with these men and if she thinks that she got hit with the big old karma stick for all the covering up she did for her husband.


Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The latest rumblings they were saying is under normal circumstances NBC would just pay the guy off and be done with it. But because all eyes are on them, doing that looks really, really bad. So they don't want to pay him off for that reason. And, they're pissed, because their golden boy really betrayed them. Another reason not to pay him.

They're going to have to weigh whether it's worth the lawsuits, as well as the exposure of their own negligence in all this.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Or, LOM told Milo that if he caught Milo tweeting or IG'ing to TFW again, he would divorce and leave

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That's assuming there really is a LOM. If there is, I doubt that the threat of a divorce would stop her. Kate comes first and always will. World without end. Amen.

Sad but true said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 35

Well, they're gonna get lawsuits, at least from some of his victims. I imagine we'll never really know what it costs NBC to make it all go away. Their slush fund for such purposes is no doubt in the tens, if not hundreds, of millions. But there should be a big fat spotlight on Lauer and his negotiations throughout the process, as his actions are the genesis of whatever hell-fire comes from the accusers. Their gains should be his loss, and I mean that literally. Who knows how many promising careers this dickhead has short-circuited? Not that money alone will ever truly compensate them. Nothing material replaces lost confidence.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I just saw the new trailer for All The Money in the World and sure enough Spacey has been swiffered out and Plummer is in his place.

I don't know, I think Plummer makes a fine Getty. A dapper choice. I think Plummer looks better because he doesn't have all the prosthetics on his face like Spacey did. He's just good ole Plummer. Apparently, Plummer was who the director wanted all along, but there was pressure from the studio to find a bigger star. Oops!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


“The only way we will get sexism out of politics is to get more women in politics,” she added.
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I wonder if she lumps Bill in with these men and if she thinks that she got hit with the big old karma stick for all the covering up she did for her husband.

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Oh my god. She's certifiably insane! This is who people wanted instead of Trump? Really? What a wack-a-doodle. Poor Bernie, the only normal one in the bunch and he got the shaft.

I'm reminded of Lauer's recent interview with Bill O'Reilly in which he demanded to know about all those lewd text messages Bill sent out. Now here we are. That is also insane.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

“The only way we will get sexism out of politics is to get more women in politics,” she added.

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You know what would get sexism to stop in all industries including politics? If each and every time something inappropriate occurred, women reported it to HR, and each and every time, HR dealt with the incidents firmly and swiftly, though always fairly. Each.and.every.time. Of course HR doesn't know what to deal with unless the woman reports it.

Of course, that's on women, and god forbid we should take responsibility for our own future. What a world.

RoxyHelen said...

YT is cracking down in family vloggera who show their kids half naked, at bath time, etc. Naturally, the parents are outraged that they can no longer exploit the children as thoroughly as they have in the past.

Blowing In The Wind said...

You know what would get sexism to stop in all industries including politics? If each and every time something inappropriate occurred, women reported it to HR, and each and every time, HR dealt with the incidents firmly and swiftly, though always fairly. Each.and.every.time. Of course HR doesn't know what to deal with unless the woman reports it.

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Will it get to the point that less women will be hired for anything -- in the business world, entertainment field, politics -- because men would be afraid of accusations against them?

Blowing In The Wind said...

A tweeter commented...

@Kateplusmy8 Any plans for a second cookbook? I loved Love Is In The Mix so much that I actually bought a second copy to put up in case something happens to my first one! We have enjoyed everything that I have made so far(which is about 3/4 of the recipes!)

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Now we know who bought both copies that are still on pre-order!

What could happen to a cookbook? Would it grow legs and just run away?

Sheeple are funny.

AuntieAnn said...

"Two people close to Lauer expressed doubt that he would play hardball with his former network. Given reports about his yearly salary over the past decade, he has likely been paid well in excess of $100 million during his time at NBC. He has multiple properties and investments."

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Likely? Oh brother. More like a certainty he's been paid well. Let's hope he can limp by for a few months without a steady paycheck, poor guy.

Gag.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



Likely? Oh brother. More like a certainty he's been paid well. Let's hope he can limp by for a few months without a steady paycheck, poor guy.


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I've always thought that if for some reason I were to become Katie Couric, I would first stockpile away enough money to live very comfortably for the next 40 years. Then and only then would I upgrade my lifestyle and start looking at buying houses in New Zealand and so forth.

It's kind of interesting how so few seem to do that. When the house of cards falls, so many seem to be broke.

I guess it's true that people will live paycheck to paycheck no matter what the salary.

By the way Harry and Megan did their first public appearance at an AIDS charity. The crowd was going wild. They love her. A wild success. That event alone brings enough awareness and money into the charity to justify their existence for the next decade. There will be thousands more like it. As they say, they pay for themselves. Even if you hate the royals, I think most people are crunching the numbers and realizing this is a business proposition that has nothing but benefits for EVERYONE.

Jamesvader1194 said...

Off topic and going back to Kate.Its December and it seems no end of the year episodes or any announcement for new episodes.Wonder if anything happen in regards to court or Collin?

AuntieAnn said...

It's kind of interesting how so few seem to do that. When the house of cards falls, so many seem to be broke.

I guess it's true that people will live paycheck to paycheck no matter what the salary. 

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Sometimes money isn't enough to feed a narc and Matt shows all the traits of one. I think if he's not going after a big payout, his plan is to act remorseful, lay low for a while and make a comeback as a changed man. People like him and Kate don't like to go quietly into the night because their egos outweigh their humility. Once they get a taste of fame they'll always need the recognition. Matt just seems to fit that mold.

Sad but true said...

Ugh. Anyone else hearing "Memories" playing in the background? Laying it on thick, even for her.

kateplusmy8 The girls and I were looking through old pics the other night together...reliving our MANY fun times over the years... it's cute when your teenagers screech about how cute they were and play argue over 'who was the cutest'😂. To me, they were and are all equally 'edible' and adorable and I told them so. They then tried to convince me to 'eat them first' 🙄! It's always a competition in a big family, I tell you! Anyway, there are many, but these pics of Lex make me laugh every time I come across them! How can you not? She's always been the perfect dose of humor when I need it most... on this day, when she was 5, she entertained me while I showered! #LoveMyKids❤️ #MemoriesAreForever #PreciousMoments

LOL:

maryannie884 You took your phone or camera into the shower? Um yeah ok Kate

kateplusmy8@maryannie884 yes I sure did! To capture THAT CUTE FACE? So glad I did:)

And this one's nose is still seriously brown:

mkbrownlowauthor I. LOVE. HER!!!!!!!!

And another who just buys the fiction:

jeffsprkchopI think of all you went through and give huge kudos to you. You drew strength from your children in some of your darkest hours and used them as the thing to keep you going even when you probably just wanted to stop. They have turned out to be amazing young individuals.

Indeed, she "used them" even during THEIR darkest hours so they could keep her in the lap of luxury. Why don't these people get it?

AuntieAnn said...

Test...test...🎤

Either Google or Blogger is being a pain in the neck today. Posting in the comments boxis all wonky.

ncgirl said...

"The girls and I were looking through old pics the other night together...reliving our MANY fun times over the years"

Not surprising the icky boys weren't included.

Layla said...

She's still looking for attention and adoration from the sheeple. She's been posting nonstop on IG for the past several weeks. I guess that's what happens when she's not filming. The longer she goes without a camera in her face, the more desperate she gets.

That laest pic of Leah was not taken while she was in the shower. First, what shower has a completely clear glass door? And why are there no drops of water on the door? I don't know about you, but when I shower, I get water on the shower door. Because, you know, when you're showering, the water is running. But hers is dry. No water, no steam or fog--nothing. And she just happened to have her phone in the shower with her? Yeah, okay.

Formerly Duped said...

That is NOT a cute picture. I think most 13 -year olds would be embarrassed by this..I did see this somewhere before and thought it was an anti-Gosselin photo-shopped joke. Sorry "Lex."

As for the trial which was supposedly imminent, I would not be surprised if the situation stays the same for quite a while.

Layla said...

Oh, I just saw that there are additional pictures with water droplets on the door. Still suspicious that she had a phone in the shower with her, and no steam on the door or on the mirror. Cold shower, maybe?

Layla said...

Blogger isn't being nice today. But...I noticed the drops of water when I clicked through the pictures. But still no steam, not much water, and if you look at the mirror behind Alexis, there's no shower--it shows the reflection of a counter and a window.

capecodmama said...

NJGal51...,No way Hillary lumps Bill in with the likes of all the rich, powerful men who have fallen lately. She doesn't believe the women and what they have said about her husband. In her mind, he hasn't done anything wrong. She threw them in "the basket of deplorables" along with Trump's supporters.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

First, what shower has a completely clear glass door?

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Raising my hand here. My walk-in does have a completely clear glass door, but it does get wet and steamy!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

As usual, TFW pays a compliment to her child with a narc spin: A is the perfect dose of humor when her MOTHER needs it most. A 5-year-old is NOT supposed to be responsible for her mother's well being. Wasn't the divorce around that time? Who was cheering those 8 kids up as their lives were falling down around them?

Another insight one could make from that post: C was more of a serious, contemplative kid, and was more effort than the other kids. With his behavioral struggles and sensitivity, maybe he didn't have an easy smile and a laugh to offer as often as the other kids. That might be part of the reason he was kicked to the curb: he didn't provide the emotional support his mother needed.

Tucker's Mom said...

Our master shower door is completely clear, but it does get wet and foggy very quickly.

NJGal51 said...

First, what shower has a completely clear glass door?
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My brother has showers with completely clear glass and because he’s got a water softening unit they stay pretty spot free. They do, however, get quite steamed up with water rolling down when you shower. OK, so the kid does this and it’s cute....do you make her stay there while you run and get your phone, wipe down the shower door and then make her perform like a trained seal so you can get pictures? No one that I know takes a phone into the shower as TFW stated she did.

AuntieAnn said...

kateplusmy8 The girls and I were looking through old pics the other night together...reliving our MANY fun times over the years... it's cute when your teenagers screech about how cute they were and play argue over 'who was the cutest'��. To me, they were and are all equally 'edible' and adorable and I told them so. They then tried to convince me to 'eat them first'

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That Instagram post sounds like she's training her girls to live in perpetual childhood just like their mommy. And yes, everyone has to know that screeching is such an adorable quality especially coming from three 13-year-old girls . It's no wonder poor Collin had to be removed from that house. His nerves were probably shot after having to put up that and his mother who has never stopped screeching.

Has Kate forgotten that her journal is on the internet? I don't recall her writing about their cuteness and fun times. It consisted mostly of her complaints about how difficult they were.

Sad but true said...

NJGal51 said... 59

. . . No one that I know takes a phone into the shower as TFW stated she did.
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Yeah, but you know she's soooo important, she was probably on her 8th pink iPhone by this point and god forbid she should miss any phone call that might result in yet another moment on teevee. Yet another flag of the true narcissist.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

AuntieAnn (#60), and aren't you curious how the girls' father fares in these Norman Rockwell strolls down memory lane? Does TFW cover his face in pictures he's in? Or has she already cut him out of all of the photos?

Formerly Duped said...

It must be hard for Hannah to join in all this merriment since the altercation between her parents over her. Poor kid is caught in limbo. I wonder if the others are still told to ignore her- will she get a lump of coal from Kate for Christmas?

Anonymous said...

With all that "screeching" going on, I hope the two boys were with their father. Thinking about Collin, sad that it is that he has been separated from his siblings for so long, I want to think he is in a much more soothing environment than the house he was made to suffer in for so long.

bm

NJGal51 said...

To me, they were and are all equally 'edible' and adorable and I told them so. They then tried to convince me to 'eat them first'
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Like we really believe that 13 year olds are going to try and convince her to “eat me first”. They were probably rolling their eyes at her wondering when they could escape the (possible) wine induced stroll down memory lane. And do any of you believe that it was “play arguing”?

AuntieAnn said...

AuntieAnn (#60), and aren't you curious how the girls' father fares in these Norman Rockwell strolls down memory lane? Does TFW cover his face in pictures he's in? Or has she already cut him out of all of the photos?

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Flimsy - I'm pretty sure Kate has sorted through every last photo and chucked any pics of Jon.

She would like everyone to believe she made the happy memories all by herself. It's strange she thinks that way being that she is the epitome of parental alienation. It's not just Jon either. She's deleted every person who has gotten in her way, never stopping to think what she's doing to her kids' heads.

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NJGal51 - yeah. WTH is play arguing anyway?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It's not credible to me her teens are always home this much, they should be with their friends on the weekends, doing sports or music, and working on homework.

At this age, it's time to take a step back and allow them to use their spare time to develop their social skills and interactions with peers. It's as important as school. Kids who take a wrong turn in this age time and time again present as having few or no friends.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I just realized what is kinda weird about TFW'S memory lane post. These kids' entire childhoods are ON FILM. So it's not like your average family busting out some old photo albums and having sweet reminisces. For pete's sake, the G kids used to go down for naps with episodes of their show playing in the background. Any one of us can access moments of their childhoods with a few clicks on YouTube.

AuntieAnn said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 

I just realized what is kinda weird about TFW'S memory lane post. These kids' entire childhoods are ON FILM.

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That's why she wanted fertility treatments. She wanted a big ol' litter of kids she could sell on tv and make memories at the same time. Look at all the perks from that decision!

You'd do it too, right?

GollyGee said...

Auntie Ann said...66

NJGal51 - yeah. WTH is play arguing anyway?

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Play arguing: Arguing, but not really meaning what you say. Oh, we weren't arguing, we were just playing.

She's certifiable that these young kids are at home with her, at their AGE, in her hoard of horrors sanctuary, giggling, play arguing and fawning over their childhood memory books.

The reason why she played the episodes to put them to sleep or when they were playing was all in part the brainwashing and indoctrination submission process plan.

The Manifesto Work Manual, the TV episode indoctrination propaganda films. This is what the episodes of all of them should be called Propaganda Films. Because TFW/Master has been in control for almost 2 decades of these children, she has severely damaged their childhoods, kicked one little boy out and he has been gone for 2 years now. One now possibly in the batter's box for the same fate.

It just makes my skin crawl that she gets away with this day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year and now decade and almost another decade.

When will it stop?

GollyGee said...

NBC is erasing everything Matt Lauer.

Completely gutting his office, removing everything even the automatic door locker button and another thing, his wife has left the country.

https://www.thecut.com/2017/12/nbc-is-reportedly-demolishing-every-trace-of-matt-lauer.html

GollyGee said...

Was just about to ask Blogger if it was feeling better after the flu or viral infection it has seemed to have for several days.

I meant to say on the post that the kids shouldn't be in their mothers inner sanctum on a weekend night. Normal kids on the weekends go to their friends houses, go to movies, parties. Either they were there, which is insane, or again lying to get that big narc shot from the few fans she has left that followed her to IG.

I hope they were at friends, Jon's, Aunt Jodi's or vice versa.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



Completely gutting his office, removing everything even the automatic door locker button and another thing, his wife has left the country.

https://www.thecut.com/2017/12/nbc-is-reportedly-demolishing-every-trace-of-matt-lauer.html


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Lol good Lord.

I hope they don't start swiffering him from their web site. I would like a couple clips of him with Kate to remain, like when she told him Jon was mediocre, and when he basically accused her of lying when she said the flight to Australia with eight kids was just fine and dandy.

He was a little tougher on her than the average stupid journalist, and I remember we all appreciated it back in the day. I'm guessing he was a jerk because he wasn't attracted to her. An Anne Curry situation.

Sad but true said...

Oh, she posted again last night, I think it's Mady and Leah?

kateplusmy8 Get 8' 9" Christmas Tree✔️. Didn't get pics of all of us, but did get some😂. You KNOW we have issues with pics at Christmas tree farms so at least I got SOME this year! It was really fun! Oh, in the last pic: I asked Joel to 'hold onto' the tree we initially picked while we checked out the rest in order to be sure.. he took me literally! 😂We are well on the way to having a #HollyJollyChristmas 🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄

I'm betting there's a plan to film during the holidays, IF they're not filming already. That's the reason for the more frequent (and inane) postings on IG.

Only one additional comment from K8:

teenspirit___The best was when they used to fight over who was most “Agin”.

kateplusmy8@teenspirit___ so true! But I haven't found anything they DON'T fight about yet so I guess this shouldn't surprise me! 😂

Ugh.

myvintagecharm Look at those beauties Kate❤️You are amazing! It’s nice to have a “real” mom for us all to relate to when watching your show. Keep them coming, I’ve been there since day one and it’s truly been quite a joy watching your sweet ones grow into such amazing little people. Merry Christmas to you all from California!! Xoxo🎄❤️🎄 @kateplusmy8

And this is just FAR too much work for K8ie:

brookeoakleyy_ Mady looks SO grown up!! Omg 😬 it’s weird seeing them all looking so much older and more mature, I’ve been watching them from the very start. I’m 20 now so I’m not that much older than mady and cara, but it’s still weird after having watched them all grow up on the tv!!😅 have you ever thought about setting up a family vlogging channel on YouTube @kateplusmy8 ?? You could film what you want, when you want and earn some money off it too! I’m sure the fans would love to get a little insight into how you’re all doing now ❤️ lots of love from England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧💕

Sad but true said...

Ah, now here's a fan who's trying to plant the seed that Collin is actually there. Did she pay you for this, jeska? I say, bullshit.

deborahcohen1216 I cant help but think of Colin when I see these family pictures and how much he is missing... that he is never a part of these memories anymore. I stopped watching your show a very long time ago, when your personality changed

jeska5589 Brace yourself, @deborahcohen1216 but just because you are not hearing or seeing Collin in any photos doesn't mean he's not right there. You don't know everything that is happening in the Gosselin house and anyone who chooses to speculate negatively is only showing their own personality flaw.

Tucker's Mom said...

I just went to look at Kate's IG picks. I would have died it my mother posted that photo of Leah with her nose pressed up, making her look like a pig.
OMG, what the hell is that woman thinking?

I hope Kate has enough lights for her 8'9" tree.
Who measures their tree to the inches?
Weird.

I hope the hap, hap happiest Christmas of all included Collin this year.

Layla said...

The boys weren't included in this stroll down memory lane because they were probably at Jon's. The pics Kate posted were of Alexis--the only tup who does not visit with her dad. So I'm guessing that it was Kate, Mady, Cara, and Alexis looking at pictures while the others were with their dad.

I agree, it's strange that these kids spend so much time sitting around at home, in their mother's bedroom. At my house it's like a revolving door--kids running in and out. They have friends and activities, and they don't spend time as groups in my bedroom. There are more fun things to do.

I just saw that the Long Island Medium separated from her husband. They issued a joint statement expressing love for each other and for their kids, and asking for privacy. Standard "Hollywood" statement, but think about how different Kate's statement (posted by TLC) was. It was basically Kate-has-filed-for-divorce-and-it's-all-Jon's-fault. No wonder she was never accepted in the world of real celebrities. She doesn't follow (or even know) the rules.

Tucker's Mom said...


jeska5589 Brace yourself, @deborahcohen1216 but just because you are not hearing or seeing Collin in any photos doesn't mean he's not right there.
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But...it probably does.
He ain't coming home, sheeple.

Sad but true said...

Layla said... 77

She has two other photos attached to this one and Joel is in the last one. There's nothing to say when these photos were actually taken, I don't take it as a given that they were all with her this past weekend. We all know how she likes to manipulate reality.

Formerly Duped said...

I notice Hannah is not pictured either...

Layla said...

Interesting how there are no pictures of Cara on Kate's IG (except for some throwback photos and a TLC promo photo) since summer 2016. She must have put her foot down--she certainly seems to resent filming, and doesn't appear in any other publicly-shared photos other than the last TLC promo. She wants privacy, clearly.

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Layla Actually its Leah Mady and joel thats in the pictures.I believe the reason why Kate didn't take the pictures of all the kids is that Collin's still not there and i believe not posting another picture of Collin will make her fans question why Collin is still not home.So she's writing it off as,i couldn't take pictures of everyone.

NJGal51 said...

"I hope Kate has enough lights for her 8'9" tree.
Who measures their tree to the inches?
Weird."

I wonder how they're going to decorate the top of that tree. I can't see any of them getting on a ladder to do it.
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"kateplusmy8@teenspirit___ so true! But I haven't found anything they DON'T fight about yet so I guess this shouldn't surprise me! 😂"

I thought that they only "play argue".
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"I'm betting there's a plan to film during the holidays, IF they're not filming already. That's the reason for the more frequent (and inane) postings on IG."

She's usually deadly quiet when they're filming or getting ready to film so it would be out of character for her to be posting this much if she were getting her narc needs met by filming. Anything's possible though.

Sad but true said...

Strikes me as kind of pointless to get a huge tree. Didn't she post on Twitter one year a tree that looked like it had only white lights, and only on half the tree to boot? There didn't appear to be any cherished hand-me-down ornaments or things made by the kids. Bottom line, I believe K8 sucks at Xmas, as she does at so much else. All she does is throw money at it.

Formerly Duped said...

Will Christmas be ripping and shrieking and thanking Mommy again?

Tucker's Mom said...

That big tree is gonna look awful bare....and dark

Tucker's Mom said...

So, Kate is saying that the kids still fight over everything? That's ridiculous.

NJGal51 said...

Sad but true - I remember that tree and you’re right, it looked like there were only lights on half of it and very few ornaments.

Sheepless In Seattle said...


I meant to say on the post that the kids shouldn't be in their mothers inner sanctum on a weekend night.

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Is it okay on week nights or weekend days?

I never hung out in my parents' room at that age. There was no reason to do so...no television, no games, nothing interesting.

I do remember, though, when I was about five or six, my best friend and I went through my mother's closet and played shoe store. She always kept her collection in boxes, and it was such fun trying them on. Good memories. Maybe that's why I have a shoe addiction.

AuntieAnn said...

You KNOW we have issues with pics at Christmas tree farms

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Oh please. Does this mean Kate thinks she's still being followed by the paparazzi? I wonder if The Bodyguard is still going everywhere with her to enforce the no-photos rule.

Tucker's Mom said...

I never hung out in my parents' room at that age. There was no reason to do so...no television, no games, nothing interesting.

I do remember, though, when I was about five or six, my best friend and I went through my mother's closet and played shoe store. She always kept her collection in boxes, and it was such fun trying them on. Good memories. Maybe that's why I have a shoe addiction.

^^^^^
My parents room was not for us kids to hang out in. It was their private space, and rightly so.
We watched tv as a family but it was in the living room.
My mother thought it slothful to stay in bed all day.
I remember sneaking into their room to go through my mother's jewelry boxes. What treasures!!

GollyGee said...

Sheepless in Seattle, yes, you are right. Not during the week or weekend. It is not right. I meant that kids do more on the weekend than during the week because of school.

I am so proud of Cara taking a stand against filming, her pictures being taken and posted on social media.

When Jon posts pictures of the twins on their birthdays, he posts cute pictures of them when the were much, much younger. They may have told him that was ok or even sent the ones they liked for him to post.

Wish the hearing was over with this month.

It sure is dragging.

Ain't it, Biff?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


My parents room was not for us kids to hang out in. It was their private space, and rightly so.
We watched tv as a family but it was in the living room.
My mother thought it slothful to stay in bed all day.

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Same. We also didn't have TVs in bedrooms until the kids were much older and could be responsible about the privilege. I've carried that over to my own adult life and have not had a TV in the bedroom for a decade. The parents room was only a place you went if you were sick, or reporting you were home from friends by curfew and they were in bed reading already. You always knocked of course and waited for a "come in."

I am still endlessly baffled at why her twitter makes it seem like this family does nothing but stay home and hang out with each other and the dogs. She makes the family look like they're in some sort of conservative Christian cult where contact with the heathens is forbidden.

It can't be that they don't do stuff outside the house, though I think it's limited. When you look at any other celeb's instagram accounts, they show a wide variety of things going on for the celeb. Some pics are at home of course, but many are from work or out and about.

It's very, very odd how compartmentalized she's kept the social media. A part of me wonders if she's been ordered by the family courts not to post on social media about anything about the kids unless it occurs in the family home. I can't think of any other explanation for the bizarre limitations on her postings.

Layla said...

Sorry for the confusion--my post above (#77) was referencing the shower photos with Alexis, not the Christmas tree photos. I wrote it last night, and it didn't post until tonight. Blogger is a little cranky!

All This Is That said...

Still no Gladys? Not even an alias?

AuntieAnn said...

Why does Kate feel that 19 Xmas tree emojis are necessary? It doesn't make her post any more exciting if that's what she's after.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

AuntieAnn (#91), because she's a 12-year-old girl.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Wasn't the Christmas tree shopping the episode where TFW was taking a picture of the 8, and the tups were itty bitty? She was barking at her flunky -- er, I mean, Jon -- to get everything just right before she snapped the photo. "Fix the hat of C! Fix the hat of J!" Because everyone knows the secret to a happy holiday is posing your kids like mannequins in the freezing cold, and treating your husband like a dog.

That may have been one of the first real peeks behind the curtain. Those picture-perfect family memories came at a very high price.
Just ask the 2 male Gosselins who have been kicked to the curb since that episode.

Formerly Duped said...
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Formerly Duped said...

lol I thought she meant her mediocre photographic skills were the reason she could not get a good photo or her large number of children. Is that 8 ..or sadly, 7 kids? Were the dogs there too? I think she adds pets to keep her status of supermom with millions of kids up. No one will notice Collin's absence among all the others plus pets or bits and pieces of kids in pictures.

Layla said...

Daily Mail has a story about Kate posting Leah's braces- off photo. Apparently people criticized Kate and said she posted it for "more money". I don't recall there being any such comments on her IG, and even if there were-- why is this a story? Sounds like a plant to me. Kate is desperate for attention lately.

Formerly Duped said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 98

Wasn't the Christmas tree shopping the episode where TFW was taking a picture of the 8, and the tups were itty bitty?
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Yes! I thought her wording was odd- the hat of C? Not C's hat? The picture was bad but they were making memories. Yup.

Sad but true said...

Layla said... 101

Yeah, it's not like we haven't seen this exact same photo (often more than one of the same kid) many times before. We get it already, your kids had terrible teeth and you, struggling single SAHM (SHAM) of EIGHT, have had to take them to the dentist a fuckety billion times. AND bake that hideous cake. She really is a one-trick pony, though I suppose in her tiny worldview this passes for a Gosselin "tradition." And thus bears repeating ad nauseum.

NJGal51 said...

All This Is That said@95
Still no Gladys? Not even an alias?
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She hasn't posted anything since the end of September nor have I seen any new posters that look remotely like her posting style. I've even looked at some of her cronies and don't see anything from her. I really do hope that she's OK.

AuntieAnn said...

Sad but true said...

Yeah, it's not like we haven't seen this exact same photo (often more than one of the same kid) many times before. We get it already, your kids had terrible teeth and you, struggling single SAHM (SHAM) of EIGHT, have had to take them to the dentist a fuckety billion times. AND bake that hideous cake.

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And a fuckety billion times more if she keeps feeding them a fuckety billion dishes of candy shown in the photo. Her kid's dentist must love to see her coming through the door. Ok, I get the ugly braces-off cake, but why all that candy?

Sad but true said...

We are VERY very busy on IG these days. I think she's finally gotten the hint that no one wants to see any more pictures of her dogs. And I guess perhaps pix of the kids when they were little are not off limits as far as the court is concerned? I dunno, but this is clearly her new gambit. Something's up.

kateplusmy8 I'm sorry...but where has this little guy gone? My 4 year old little professor is all grown up! Talk about 'edible'! I adore his sweet, kind, loving, sensitive self! And he's so thoughtful and helpful! OH-and his love of HIS dog, Mak, especially melts my heart every single day! #LoveMyBoy #Aaden❤️

pc08 Loving these throwbacks! Keep them coming! [This is Paige.]

kateplusmy8@pc08 I plan on it! Getting really sentimental in my old age lol.. more than I used to be even! I can't believe how little they were and how fast it's gone! Crazy!

andradejessie Aaden always made me smile, just remembered him asking "where r my gasses" lol

nick_moy Love what you are doing.. so cute and sentimental, showing each of your kids uniqueness and individuality.. very touching...👍👍

kateplusmy8@andradejessie yes! I just said that! To be exact tho, it was 'ohhhh my gasses!' when I'd ask him where they were-- every single morning (which I still have to do, to this very day!)!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#106), I double dog dare TFW to post a solo picture of C. If she was honest(awnest), she'd have to say something like this:
"C at 4. Or 2. Whatever. Who could telll with that giant head. Tried to be helpful, but so hard 2 love:("

Formerly Duped said...

Well, with this picture of little Aaden, she has posted everyone but Hannah and Cara and of course Collin lately. Is she trying to make people think all kids are getting her attention and a post of each? I do wonder if there is any further action with court?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Ol' Nick Moy has set the bar so low for his/her idol that showing love for her own children earns TFW praise.

NJGal51 said...

kateplusmy8@andradejessie yes! I just said that! To be exact tho, it was 'ohhhh my gasses!' when I'd ask him where they were-- every single morning (which I still have to do, to this very day!)!
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WTF! For God's sake, he's 13 and not 4 and since he's been wearing glasses all of his life one would assume that he puts them on automatically without mommy having to remind him. She really does infantalize them with these types of posts which is why many fans still think of them as toddlers and "can't believe" that they're 13.

Layla said...

I wonder if she's posting al these photos in order to get non-fans to criticize, and then she can whine to the press about people picking on her. I looked, and there are a number of recent articles about bad comments people leave on her IG. Kate loves being a victim if it gets her attention, and if it keeps the press talking about her--even better!

She worked the "poor little me, my haters are so mean to me" angle the last time TLC stopped filming, along with the "I've changed! I've mellowed!" thing. This time her haters are mean and she's sentimental. Anything to make herself look more interesting for filming.

Gigi Be said...

Poor Kate. I think she’s finally beginning to realize more than ever that her glory days are over. And no more toddlers to boss around. Th kids are growing up and have formed their own likes/ dislikes. They have their own opinions about appearing on the show, what they wear, and who wants to see daddy. In my opinion, this is probably what bugs Kate the most. I don’t believe there’s much a sentimental bone in her body.

Anonymous said...

I see where Time has named "The Silence Breakers" as their Person(s) of the Year. I do hope Ronan Farrow at least receives Honourable Mention; I was hoping he would be first choice.

bm

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I see where Time has named "The Silence Breakers" as their Person(s) of the Year. I do hope Ronan Farrow at least receives Honourable Mention; I was hoping he would be first choice.

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The silence breakers many of whom still won’t name their accusers so women will continue getting hurt? Not good enough. Ronan should get it. He made it okay to break the silence. Without him women would have remained in their cowardly silence to this day.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Gigi Be (#112), yep, TFW'S attempts at seeming tender hearted always ring hollow to me. Those old photos stir a feeling of loss in her: not of her children's sweet and innocent years, but of her exciting period of being a celebrity.

Anonymous said...

It appears Corey Felman was telling the truth. LAPD have now found audio tape of him naming abusers which he claims they covered up.

bm

Susan1956 said...

OT--Looks like Karma is going to hit Kim Davis. What skill sets can she use in a job if she loses? Or has she squirreled her money away?

https://tinyurl.com/yd9mq3ty

Betsy said...

fuckety billion times more if she keeps feeding them a fuckety billion dishes of candy shown in the photo. Her kid's dentist must love to see her coming through the door. Ok, I get the ugly braces-off cake, but why all that candy?
December 5, 2017 at 9:31 —-

Easy!
Kids with braces can’t eat hard or gooey candy.
Popcorn, soft drinks are off limits as well.
So many snacks can break brackets and bend wires.soft drinks discolor the teeth.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Democrats are finally saying Al Franken should go. Chuck Schumer even used the exact words I said, he should go “immediately.”

What do you think of that, troll? Lol.

Sad but true said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 117

And Conyers resigned, claiming that his due process was not being honored, even though there are many allegations against him and, according to several reports, there have been settlements paid out by the government "fund" that seems to exist for this purpose (!). The irony of him being one of Clinton's foremost defenders is not lost.

Tucker's Mom said...

She worked the "poor little me, my haters are so mean to me" angle the last time TLC stopped filming, along with the "I've changed! I've mellowed!" thing. This time her haters are mean and she's sentimental. Anything to make herself look more interesting for filming.
^^^^^^
The world seems to be moving so much quicker than back in Kate's salad days. People are so much more focused on issues vs. celebrity.
We have the #metoo movement causing men to fall like dominos from media, Hollywood and politics. My goodness, I can't imagine anyone giving 2 sh*ts about poor Kate piecin' and patchin' or getting haterz commenting on her social media.

She is so over.

The Duggars can't be far behind, especially when viewed through the lens of the #metoo movement and women speaking out about being abused.
If the likes of Matt Lauer are toppling, surely so can Boob and Josh. The former uses women and children and covers up his own daughters' molestation, and the latter actually DID the molestation.

NJGal51 said...

And what’s up with TFW saying how “edible” her kids are? Is this some trendy new buzz word when people talk about their kids?

Anonymous said...

Admin - I'd like to hear your opinion on the Corey Feldman case. I'm hoping the authorities are not going to say the statute of limitations has run out if the police ignored his account of what happened to him.

bm

Tucker's Mom said...

NJGal51 said... 122
And what’s up with TFW saying how “edible” her kids are? Is this some trendy new buzz word when people talk about their kids?
^^^^
Revisionist history. Kate never loved on her kids like that. Never said, 'I'm going to eat you up" or ate their toes like so many moms and dads do.
B.S.
Kate thought those boys were icky and stinky.

AuntieAnn said...

Easy! 
Kids with braces can’t eat hard or gooey candy. 
Popcorn, soft drinks are off limits as well.
So many snacks can break brackets and bend wires.soft drinks discolor the teeth.

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Yes I know but why put all that garbage in front of them at once? Is that supposed to show her sheep what a good and sympathetic mom she is? Kate's health-conscious preaching was just another bogus angle she used to sell her family on tv.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

AuntieAnn (#124), yes, remember when that sort of thing would be labeled a "rare treat?" I think Jon once mentioned one of the kids had a lollipop and TFW feigned horror and asked if it was organic. Heifer, please.

AuntieAnn said...

Administrator said...

The silence breakers many of whom still won’t name their accusers so women will continue getting hurt? Not good enough. Ronan should get it. He made it okay to break the silence. Without him women would have remained in their cowardly silence to this day.

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Yes. This.

Why don't these people feel the moral obligation to report it WHEN they are violated. Wouldn't you speak out immediately if someone assaulted your child or another family member or a friend? This "culture of silence" pretext so many of these woman have ascribed to should be history by 2017.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

NJGal51 said... 122
And what’s up with TFW saying how “edible” her kids are? Is this some trendy new buzz word when people talk about their kids?
^^^^
Revisionist history. Kate never loved on her kids like that. Never said, 'I'm going to eat you up" or ate their toes like so many moms and dads do.
B.S.


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I'm recapping that garage sale episode next, and it gives a lot of insight into her relationship with the kids. The cameras caught her showing off trying to hug and love on Cara and Cara was like ummmm NO THANKS. Then they interviewed the kids on the couch and they were basically like, yeah we're not that family.

They're not that family indeed. And when she pretends they are, it looks very trite.

AuntieAnn said...

Heifer, please.

LOL!! Flimsy.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Admin - I'd like to hear your opinion on the Corey Feldman case. I'm hoping the authorities are not going to say the statute of limitations has run out if the police ignored his account of what happened to him.

bm


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I was jumping up and down to hear the LAPD found some old tapes from 1993. We'll see what's on this, but Corey is not playing around. I think he knows something big, huge, and I believe him that his life is in danger.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm hoping the authorities are not going to say the statute of limitations has run out if the police ignored his account of what happened to him.

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I hope they take a second and third look at this now, because there may be a loophole to get around the statue of limitations. It gets complicated in CA but what plays a major role is when the victim truly understood something really wrong had happened to them, and you could try to argue Corey hasn't realized that until more recently. Add to the mix possible misconduct on the part of police for possibly not fulling investigating this in 1993 and we may really be onto something here.

The play is not over yet.

AuntieAnn said...

Cara was like ummmm NO THANKS. Then they interviewed the kids on the couch and they were basically like, yeah we're not that family.

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I watched the Beach Time! episode recently. The couch interview with the three girls was very telling. Hannah said, ''I can't be a team with my family''. Leah piped up to add "It just doesn't work". They were commenting about the kayaking debacle but it spoke volumes about how unravelled that family really is.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Lena Dunham of all people told the New York Times she told Hillary ages ago all about Harvey Weinstein and specifically identified him as a rapist and suggested Hillary back away from him and his money.

Huge mistake not listening to her. And also Lena just outed her as a liar when she claims she didn’t know anything about this. Now we need somebody to prove word salad Meryl Streep’s lying when she plays dumb too.

njay said...

Why don't these people feel the moral obligation to report it WHEN they are violated. Wouldn't you speak out immediately if someone assaulted your child or another family member or a friend? This "culture of silence" pretext so many of these woman have ascribed to should be history by 2017.
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Maybe this is why! part 1,2 and 3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGPKT9no3O0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FZ0St6A9dY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJDvvsLH5ig

I origenly saw it on dr. phil.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 133
Lena Dunham of all people told the New York Times she told Hillary ages ago all about Harvey Weinstein and specifically identified him as a rapist and suggested Hillary back away from him and his money.
^^^^^
I don't think the NYT article connects Lena's warning directly to Hillary, but to the highest people in her campaign. Nevertheless, I don't believe the Clintons (and Obamas) knew exactly who Weinstein was.
Immediately after Hillary's loss, she and Bill began working with Harvey Weinstein on a tv documentary about her campaign, and continued working with his people right up until the huge story broke.
It them took Hillary almost a week to respond.
Now, it's clear why.

Admin, I hope you're ok out in L.A. with the wildfires!

Tucker's Mom said...

Huge mistake not listening to her.
^^^^^^
I think it was more of an arrogant assumption that Hillary didn't need to heed the warning because she was on her way to that "baked in the cake" electoral victory.

Here's my theory and I'm sticking with it... I truly believe that the Harvey Weinstein story would NOT have broken if Hillary won the election. The Clinton, Obamas and Democrats in general have had increasingly close ties to Hollywood, and have counted on Hollywood for fundraising events and money.
They are thick as thieves.
Heck, the Obamas made Washington D.C. the L.A. of the East over the 8 years they were in the White House.
You couldn't swing a long-tailed cat without hitting some celeb at a red carpet event, or supping at some hot restaurant.
Weinstein visited 13 times, and Michelle proclaimed him a "great human being" while fawning all over him. Of course, she sent her young daughter to intern with him as well.
Anyway, I don't think anyone would have DARED expose Weinstein, with his intimate connection to the Clintons and Obamas, if Hillary had won.

The story would still be squashed, Hollywood's "open secret" would be just that, and the whole cascade of events that have unfolded would never have come to fruition.

Formerly Duped said...

Does this mean no popcorn with a surprise with many of the kids still in braces?

Formerly Duped said...

Does this mean no popcorn with a surprise with many of the kids still in braces?

Tucker's Mom said...

Another Nanuq photo on Kate's IG.
I hope Kate and the kids have a life beyond her bedroom!

Gosh, when you compare Kate's to Amy Roloff's social media, it's a bit sad, if what you want is for your IG/FB to represent and reflect your life, not to mention, entertain and draw people in.
Amy really captures moments and the "feel" of her life as she experiences it. Her photos ooze emotion and warmth and most of all, tell a story.
Amy is so busy, outside of filming. There's always the sense that even when filming is crazy, she and her family and friends have a life.
Kate's IG is just...sad.

Another medium she doesn't have the will or aptitude to master.

NJGal51 said...

Well, Al Frankenstein just resigned.

CC said...

foxy said... 15

The women who were truly victimized are being shuttled to the back of the room while all the others are coming out with I saw his penis, he kissed me, he touched my breasts over my clothes, he wanted me to touch him. I think it is getting out of hand and losing what this is truly about.

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Just catching up...

What is it truly about?! "Truly victimized"??



Seriously?



Sexual harassment is sexual harassment. Sexual assault is sexual assault. Why is being groped OVER your clothes considered lesser than being groped under your clothes? Do you draw the line on whether or not someone is wearing a bra? If you're wearing a padded bra does it not count because you may not "feel" the groping as much?



If a man gropes or fondles you, rubs his groin against you, on public transportation, or in the work place, or ANYWHERE, it is sexual assault.



It's not "rape," but it's still sexual assault, and acting like it's not a big deal, or not AS BIG a deal as other types of sexual assault, is one reason why men have gotten away with it for so long.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


You are lying again. She did not say she spoke directly with Hillary Clinton.

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I did not say she spoke directly to Clinton so calm down. She told all the top dogs in the campaign which is the same thing as telling her directly. They tell Clinton everything. It’s inconceivable they wouldn’t tell her this. Stop trying to cover for her. She got caught in her lies. Again. Accept it. The campaign built their foundation on a sexual predator. She should be begging all his victims for forgiveness. Arrogant tool.

Cya Franken. Lol.

NJGal51 said...

Damn you auto correct! FRANKEN!

Sad but true said...

Well, the latest photo of #Gnugnu isn't gaining a lot of traction.

kateplusmy8 My little 'Noodle' girl (one of Nanuq's many nicknames!) tucking in her toy Poodle, before going to sleep herself! 😍😍😍😍😍 #Nanuq #KingGermanShepherd #SableKingShepherd #ThisMomsBestFriend

None of the photos K8's posted has ever gotten close to even 10% "likes" from her now 206K followers. Which makes sense given that a huge proportion of them were purchased. I imagine advertisers are on to this game, which explains the likely lack of interest in her as a promotional tool.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Why? Who gives a rat's ass what some 'celebrity' says or thinks?


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Welp, I guess Hillary should have before taking all that sexual predator's money. If she HAD won, this story would be blowing up. There is a bright side to everything and I hope she realizes now she's lucky she didn't win or she'd have some major explaining to do.

Whoops.

Blowing In The Wind said...

So many snacks can break brackets and bend wires.soft drinks discolor the teeth.

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Don't soft drinks discolor teeth, with or without braces?

Layla said...

Sad but true (144)
Boy, she's spoon-feeding the requested responses to her fans now, isn't she. Nanuq is Kate's best friend. Nanuq is tucking in her toy before going to bed. Now the fans have to rave about how Nanuq is just like Kate, tucking her babies safely into bad before she gets any rest, Nanuq/Kate do everything for their babies, Kate is the best mommy ever, even the dog can't help but learn how to be the best mommy ever just from being around Kate, Blah, blah, blah. Could she be any more obvious?

Kate's cries for attention are coming fast and furious now. She's getting more desperate for her "fix" of adulation with each passing day.

swimgirl said...

The campaign built their foundation on a sexual predator. She should be begging all his victims for forgiveness. Arrogant tool.
*******
So did the Trump campaign, the only difference is that the sexual predator is now president. lol

GollyGee said...

Wow. The babies are almost here!

From their Facebook page.

God's Divine Nine-Miracles in the Making!

Waldrop Sextuplets

29 weeks yesterday!! Definitely a number we never thought we would ever see. I cannot explain the journey this has been. It's been a blessed journey but also a day doesn't go by that I don't cry and want to give up.

We knew it would be hard. But it's almost to the end and in just a week God will bring 6 new lives into this world that we will be blessed to call our miracles. I'm thankful everyday that God spoke to us early on and let us know that He had this and would be by our sides the whole way.

Now as I feel every kick and move they each make I'm reminded of the blessing of choosing life...all their lives. We love each one so very much and although it's been so hard, 30 weeks will be such an amazing blessing to get to and hopefully decrease the chance of things being wrong with any of them.

God had this plan for us long before we knew it. He made what we thought was the impossible the possible. Please continue to pray for us to get through the hardest week of all and on December 13th pray that there will be no complications for me or the babies!! Thank you all from the bottom of my heart!!

God bless you Courtney, Eric and your beautiful children!
3 sons:

Saylor Briggs
Bridge Ryder
Wales Tucker

Girls:
Rivers McCall
Rayne McCoy
Rawlings McClaine

Boys:
Layke Bryers
Blu Wellington
Tag Bricker

NJGal51 said...

GollyGee said... 149
Wow. The babies are almost here!
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I’ll reserve judgement on them until we see if they’re made from the same mold as TFW.

Formerly Duped said...
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Sad but true said...

NJGal51 said... 150
GollyGee said... 149
Wow. The babies are almost here!
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I’ll reserve judgement on them until we see if they’re made from the same mold as TFW.
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That's the problem. If they're not already narcissists, they will be by the time the PR and TV people get done with them. But my sense is, there is already a "look at me!" foundation firmly in place with these two.

Formerly Duped said...

omg, those are terrible names! JMO, but really. Are they hipsters or snowflake parents?

NJGal51 said...

Sad but true...That's the problem. If they're not already narcissists, they will be by the time the PR and TV people get done with them. But my sense is, there is already a "look at me!" foundation firmly in place with these two.
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I agree 100%.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Oh my god. The Roy Moore victim said she forged the yearbook! Holy shit!

I said all along he’s either totally psycho, or telling the truth. Why go to the trouble of getting a handwriting expert?

capecodmama said...

Formerly Duped...Totally agree. Those name are ridiculous.

CC said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 155
Oh my god. The Roy Moore victim said she forged the yearbook! Holy shit!

I said all along he’s either totally psycho, or telling the truth. Why go to the trouble of getting a handwriting expert?
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I read she claims she wrote “part” of it.

From what I got she is claiming she added “notes” to it. I think she is claiming she wrote the part under his signature. I thought that was obvious from the beginning.

She still claims he wrote the rest and signed it.

I’m not sure how that’s considered “forged.”

Will be interesting to see what handwriting experts say.

CC said...

That Fox headline is very misleading. Did you read the actual article?
Making a notation on a “document” is not forging.

Allred is having a press conference this afternoon.

I don’t really follow this story much, but I would like to see how they respond to the “forged” evidence accusation.

That just seems so wrong to mislead readers like that.

CC said...

Looking at the reactions to the Fox headline I think it’s safe to say that headline was misleading. It doesn’t even match the story. She didn’t admit to forging anything.

Adding a notation to a “document” isn’t forgery. And it was quite obvious that was added.

Allred called for a press conference this afternoon. Interesting to see how she addresses the “forged” accusation.

Layla said...

Oh boy, more sextuplets. I am praying the parents don't sell their childhoods to the highest bidder, but it already looks like they're headed in that direction.

I wonder how Kate is feeling about this. She has admitted to hating competition from HOM families, and this family will have adorable little ones while all she has is teenagers with attitudes. No wonder she's being all nostalgic lately. She misses the days when hers were little and cute and she had many, many years left to exploit them. Time is running short now.

For the last 3 years straight TLC has aired a season of K+8 during December-January. I'm not hearing anything this year. We haven't even heard of filming sightings. Can we dare hope these kids will have some time to live normal lives? I think it's obvious that Cara doesn't like filming, plus Collin is gone and Hannah doesn't even want to live with her mother. You'd think TLC would back off, given those circumstances.

CC said...

Ha. Fox News just changed the headline from "accuser admits she forged part..." to "...wrote part of the yearbook inscription..."

I have the original tweet with the original headline. Talk about "fake news." LOL.

But seriously, that was messed up of them. Glad they changed it. However, so many people just read the headline without reading the article. It's like closing the barn door after the fact...

Unknown said...

Forgery is a crime—as is fraud—which means Beverly Nelson can SUE the LIVING DAYLIGHTS out of Fox News for FALSELY claiming she "forged" evidence in a civil case. In fact, Nelson did no more than add a date and place beneath "Judge" Roy Moore's creepy yearbook comments.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She wrote the most important thing herself, the date. The date is everything because it implicates him as knowing her at that time.

She never mentioned she wrote any of it herself before. She said it was all him. That is fraud.

Unfortunately even if she admits to writing one word of it, it blows her credibility out of the water. It’s a huge opening for Moore which he is going to be pouncing all over. The whole story’s credibility has blown up now, there’s no unwinding this clock. Handwriting experts have so far been a non starter, neither able to confirm nor deny this.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Nice downplaying and minimizing Anonymouse. Just like a good GOP hater. Adding anything to a note, especially the date and place, and not mentioning you did that, is absolutely forgery. It can change the entire meaning of a note and can get you thrown in jail. Surely you can see that the fact that she did that blows her whole story up. I happen to believe her about what she said he did, but her very bad decision to alter his note is going to derail this whole thing. It’s unfortunate, especially if you believe it happened.

CC said...

Sorry for the dupe comments. Having Blogger issues...

I don't see adding a notation of the date and place to something as forgery.

There's no way that even looked like he wrote it. What year is the year book? Is it 1977? Then I think that confirms the year it was written anyway.

I see two dates on there. One is "Christmas 1977." Did she write that? It looks like the same handwriting as the rest of the note, and it's before his signature. If she wrote that then I'd say it's been altered. But it looks like the same writing as the note so I think he wrote that. (Only handwriting analysis or her admission would change that.)

If she admits to adding that part into the inscription then that's a different story.

Did she specifically SAY that he DID write the date and place at the end of the inscription, and then admit she lied? Or did she not specify anything about that part and is now clarifying it? I think there's a HUGE difference.

I actually can't believe anyone even assumed he wrote the date and place. It was so obvious it's different writing.

I don't think adding the time and place is forgery. I guess Fox News agrees because they changed the headline.

But it's a clever way to try to discredit her now.

Over In TFW's County said...

Totally OT for those who know my cat rescue story.

I was in the kitchen earlier today, making seafood bisque for dinner. I looked out onto the deck and sure enough, there's a big orange cat sitting there looking at me. It is either my rescue's husband or father (or both). We're expecting some snow tomorrow, and sure enough, someone shows up.

I'm trying to ignore this. I am a cat magnet. Since it's the holiday season, I'm hanging out a sign for the neighborhood barn cats, "No room at the inn."

Dmasy said...

Over in TWF...I laughed aloud at the "(or both)" comment.

Good Luck.

I see an increase in your cat food bills!

Merry Christmas to you and your very kind hear.

Formerly Duped said...

Over In TFW's County said... 166
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Ah, Merry Christmas to you and your new family addition! Word has got out n the feline community.

Layla said...

Over in TFW's County (166)
My father is a cat magnet, too! I remember visiting him at his ranch years ago. and at about 4pm, his back deck was suddenly covered with cats! He fed them all and they disappeared after eating. I asked him how they figured out that they could congregate at his house to be fed and he said, "They can just sense that I'm a sucker".

Fleecing The Sheeple said...


I don't think adding the time and place is forgery

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I don't know if it's forgery, but I would think that it changes the evidence. She altered it. Therefore, how much of it would be believed? Why in the world would she do this and not just let well enough alone? How dumb is this person?

I haven't really been following this, but how is writing in a yearbook proof of sexual assault? Is he claiming that he didn't write any of it?

Rules of evidence?

Fleecing The Sheeple said...


My father is a cat magnet, too! I remember visiting him at his ranch years ago. and at about 4pm, his back deck was suddenly covered with cats! He fed them all and they disappeared after eating. I asked him how they figured out that they could congregate at his house to be fed and he said, "They can just sense that I'm a sucker".

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Did they wear watches, or was there a clock in the barn?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I don't know if it's forgery, but I would think that it changes the evidence. She altered it. Therefore, how much of it would be believed? Why in the world would she do this and not just let well enough alone? How dumb is this person?

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Pretty dumb. Many victims just are. That’s often how they got in such a terrible situation. They don’t have the astuteness to think, this doesn’t smell right I’m not going to even put myself in a position of opportunity for anything to happen. Perps seek out those very people to prey upon, the vulnerable and dumb. Which makes their crimes all the worse in my view, they victim never even had a chance.

It’s just like a court of law, all you usually need to do is prove ONE little portion of the story wrong and the whole thing falls apart as suspect. It doesn’t matter if you can explain it, it doesn’t matter if it’s the only error in the whole story. This mistake is more than just minor, it’s the very foundation of her claims. This is a dramatic turn of events. Dramatic.

Sad but true said...

YES! "Another throwback"! She's working up to something, no doubt. Too funny. BUT it's her toddler-sized daughters in almost no clothes, so . . . not smart. I think this one, however innocently it might have been chosen, is going to play right to the pedo portion of her viewers.

kateplusmy8 Another throwback! Talk about 'edible'! I can't stop smiling at this pic of Hannah and Leah! They were 6 and we were at #DiscoveryCove. They stopped to admire a wee little gecko on the sidewalk! Just then, I dropped my phone, cracked the screen, and remember scrambling to save my pics from that day (including this adorable one!) in case my phone died! Whew! SO glad I managed to save this! It's literally priceless! These sweet baby faces completely melt me! #Hannah #Leah #Love❤️

Sheepless In Seattle said...


It’s just like a court of law, all you usually need to do is prove ONE little portion of the story wrong and the whole thing falls apart as suspect. It doesn’t matter if you can explain it, it doesn’t matter if it’s the only error in the whole story. This mistake is more than just minor, it’s the very foundation of her claims. This is a dramatic turn of events. Dramatic.

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Absolutely changes everything. I know someone who was involved in a civil lawsuit as the defendant. An address in the pleading was incorrect, long story, but the defendant never lived there and it was on that address that the case was based. Judge threw the whole thing out even though the plaintiff said it was a "clerical" error. Plaintiff filed again, and made the same mistake and even more errors. Again the motion was denied. The whole case eventually was dismissed.

I wonder how Allred is dealing with this. I suspect not too well, even though she'll try to wiggle her way out of it.

Layla said...

Fleecing (171),
Nope-no clocks or watches, they just seemed to know instinctively what time to congregate. Funny, but my dad lived on 400 acres--where did all those cats come from? They weren't his, and there were no close neighbors.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

My father is a cat magnet, too! I remember visiting him at his ranch years ago. and at about 4pm, his back deck was suddenly covered with cats! He fed them all and they disappeared after eating. I asked him how they figured out that they could congregate at his house to be fed and he said, "They can just sense that I'm a sucker".

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Did they wear watches, or was there a clock in the barn?

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I hope they leave a good tip after they eat and run.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

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Absolutely changes everything. I know someone who was involved in a civil lawsuit as the defendant. An address in the pleading was incorrect, long story, but the defendant never lived there and it was on that address that the case was based. Judge threw the whole thing out even though the plaintiff said it was a "clerical" error. Plaintiff filed again, and made the same mistake and even more errors. Again the motion was denied. The whole case eventually was dismissed.

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Oh my! Well that’s the plot of Better Call Saul.

Yeah it was kind of funny watching the story framed and reframed trying to make it sound not so bad. I feel bad for her.

Sad but true said...

And she's definitely deleting comments. Here's one responding to someone who's been asking questions before, but that person's comment has been scrubbed. Wonder what's behind all the amped-up effort on IG in the past couple of weeks.

brirob17@deborahcohen1216 she also hasn’t done one of Joel. She’s posting them on different days so Collin may be next. She loves them all equally 💗

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#173), and how silly is TFW to get so dramatic about almost losing a photo from a trip that was all captured on film anyway. She can't tell an interesting story to save her life. Or her career.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Sad but true (#173), and how silly is TFW to get so dramatic about almost losing a photo from a trip that was all captured on film anyway. She can't tell an interesting story to save her life. Or her career.

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I've noticed a lot of narcissist can't spin an interesting tale. They'll promise a big reveal or something really interesting about to drop. And then you get to the "punch line" and you're like, that's it?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Moore believes the US was GREAT during slavery. GREAT. And Trump supports him. Do you?

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I don't support him at all, can you read? I repeatedly said I don't support him. How many times do I have to say it?

I have no idea why you think discussing a huge whole, HUGE, in his victim's story, means one has decided to support Moore. The hell? They are not one in the same. I haven't liked him for ages, going way back to when he decided he can just defy a Supreme Court order. I think he's scary on so many levels, and to find out he's a child predator too only solidifies that. I can't speak for other people wanting to support him, I suspect it mostly has to do with trying to keep a majority, but I happen to support what Mitt Romney said about him 100%, and that is that no majority is worth your morals. Exactly. I think individually on issues and come to my own conclusions on a case by case basis. I don't blindly love, or hate, any one person's views on anything and that's exactly the issue here is that people's hate for a certain party or candidate, has gotten so out of control that they refuse to judge issues on a case by cases basis, give credit where credit is due when good things happen, examine holes in stories with a critical eye, etc. THAT'S a sheeple.

Everyone following this story is discussing this bombshell about the altered yearbook, what is the problem with that? In fact it would be strange not to address the elephant in the room, it suggests a steeple-like mentality to get someone no matter what the contrary evidence is. That's scary.

If Roy Moore is to go down, it needs to be done so by the facts. He's not going down without a fight, so throwing half-faked yearbooks at him is not going to cut it this time. This battle is not an easy one, and mistakes like this are killers.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Who cares about rules of evidence? This is not a court case. It is being tried only in the court of public opinion. It was OBVIOUS that she added the last two lines. The writing is completely different -- no attempt to make it appear that he wrote those lines was made. She produced the yearbook because Roy Moore claimed he'd never met her.

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Roy Moore's a lawyer and a military captain, and he's lead the charge that these allegations must be proven as if you were in front of a judge and jury or even military tribunal.

In any case, the proof required in a court of law in my view is generally a good litmus test for proving something up in layman land. So bringing up the fact that the yearbook has a date that SHE wrote, not him, is fair game.

The date is everything, because it proves they had contact around about the time of the allegations. But because come to find out SHE wrote the date, it's basically useless evidence. I know it's not a court of law, but in a court of law, this would be tossed in the dust bin.

I'm not saying it should be, but from a lawyer's perspective, I see why Moore is saying, what else ya got?

Layla said...

Admin (180)
"Narcissists...will promise a big reveal or something really interesting about to drop. And then you get to the 'punch line' and you're like, that's it?".

You mean like when she promised some big surprise reveal, and had the fans all in a tizzy thinking it was a new show announcement....and it was the launch of her website? That was cruel, even for her. She was toying with them, and she knew it. But, as always, she didn't care.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


You mean like when she promised some big surprise reveal, and had the fans all in a tizzy thinking it was a new show announcement....and it was the launch of her website? That was cruel, even for her. She was toying with them, and she knew it. But, as always, she didn't care.

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Yep.

There's someone I follow on social media whom I know personally so I don't want to say who they are, but recently they said tomorrow, or whatever, they're going to reveal a funny story about when they met a certain celeb.

And then we got to the funny story eventually and literally all it was was, I said hi and he said hi and I didn't quite realize who they were.

I'm like "um, and"?

Sad but true said...

brirob17@deborahcohen1216 she also hasn’t done one of Joel. She’s posting them on different days so Collin may be next. She loves them all equally 💗

As a matter of fact, Joel did appear in the Xmas tree photos. Which leaves only Cara and Collin not having recently been posted.

decorgirl said...

I'm actually rooting for Kate to do something, anything interesting. I work with abused and neglected kids, and her kids would not even be on my radar. The problem with this family is they are just so damn boring. TLC had to literally create a life for them. It is so sad to me that such privileged kids have no life. The friends that come to the birthday parties don't seem to be real life close friends, and the twins have 1 friend between the two of them. I think Kate only has one real friend, any others are really just paid employees. There is no family, no friends, no hobbies other than Cara's sports, and it seems no real interests in anything. Kate is boring, the kids are boring, her house is boring (and as a designer I would love to see her get creative there), their lives are boring. Even the dogs are not interesting. Kate doesn't seem to be good at anything. Being anal and being organized are not the same thing. She cannot hold her own on a talk panel. She has NOTHING to talk about except herself and the kids, and there is nothing she hasn't said already. She really needs to work of her photography skills. It is so easy to take a great photo with an iPhone and edit it. There is potential there, she could reinvent herself and her family, try something new. I don't know why she doesn't? She already has a built in audience which is more than most people start with. There are so many bloggers and instagrammers who make a living off blogging, you tubing, and sharing on instagram. Is it really just being lazy? In spite of all this, I will admit I'm somehow intrigued with the family and I'm really hoping she surprises us with something new.

Lanc Native said...

The friends that come to the birthday parties don't seem to be real life close friends, and the twins have 1 friend between the two of them.

))))))))))))

I am not sure that this is true. Just because only one or so friends are filmed, it doesn't mean that the twins have no friends. Perhaps the friends (or their parents) don't want them filmed. Just because we only hear about Cara's sports doesn't mean that none of the other kids has a hobby or other interests.

Why doesn't Kate reinvent herself? Two reasons...she has burned too many bridges and she's just too lazy. She can't even keep her blog current. Speaks volumes.

How would she reinvent herself? Hasn't she tried many things but failed miserably? The problem is that she never decided who or what she wants to be. Rich, successful celebrity with a huge house, pool, multiple cars, or poor struggling single mom who has too many bills in her pocket? She's a conundrum of confusion.

AuntieAnn said...

  I'm really hoping she surprises us with something new.

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Better get comfortable then. It could be a long wait.

Sad but true said...

I am having a helluva time getting my comments to post. But she was back on IG today with Mak. Guess she's noticing how many people are commenting about the surfeit of #Nookie photos when she's got two other dogs.

kateplusmy8 That time of year when our 'indoor dog' Mak finds a sofa to sit on from which to view the snow outside! 😂❄️🐶❄️🐶 #Mak #KingGermanShepherd

Strange that she calls him the "indoor dog"---like Nuqi and Shoki are not? She just makes it up as she goes along.

Tucker's Mom said...

AuntieAnn said... 188
I'm really hoping she surprises us with something new.

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Better get comfortable then. It could be a long wait.

^^^^
Kate's a one-trick pony and well, using the word "trick" is being rather generous.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I am having a helluva time getting my comments to post.

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Blogger has the flu or something. With mine, they do usually post, but I don't get the usual "posting..." message, and they don't post instantly. But, they will show up in a few minutes.

Really bad!

NJGal51 said...

I’m having trouble posting also Sad but true! I never know if my comments are going to post or not.

As far as indoor/outdoor dogs go, in the past TFW posted that no matter how much the beg Shoka to come in he wants to spend all his time outside. He also won’t ride in the car with her.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Alabama is about to elect a pedophile who believes America was at its best during SLAVERY, refers to Asians and Native Americans as "reds and yellows," and thinks 9/11 was a punishment for our sinful ways, but let's focus on these two lines in a yearbook to distract from the reality of what is happening, shall we?

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You're basically saying that because he is a bad person who has done past bad acts (that's true) this act MUST be true. In the law we call that "propensity" toward something, and it's just not allowed in court. That is faulty logic, and scary, because it's not critically thinking about each situation individually. I admit I have some doubts about this case, mostly because his behavior is so unlike most other perps, most of whom are just biting the bullet on it and apologizing. He's not, he's absolutely insisting it's not true. That's his choice whether he wants to confirm or deny any of this, but because he chose to deny it, now we have to go through the tedious job of actually sorting out the truth of all the allegations. A forged yearbook is part of that analysis. Him being psychotic could account for his denials, of course, but I'm not completely sold on that either. So like I said, time to sort through the evidence.

As for his supporters in politics, they've been pretty clear, they just can't afford to lose the numbers. That was a rational, greater good choice. If he were actually admitting these allegations it would be a whole other story, but he's not, which puts the party in a real catch 22. Do you hedge your bets he's telling the truth, or do you take your chances he's not telling the truth and get rid of him and risk finding out later you purged the party's majority for no good reason at all? It's split the party right down the middle, with some putting their chips on black others on red. I for one find it fascinating.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Alabama is about to elect a pedophile who believes America was at its best during SLAVERY


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He said families pulled together during wartime, which is true.

But that's nearly universally true in all wartimes, so I don't really know why he felt the need to emphasize that for that particular time period and make it look like he was saying there was some kind of wonderful positive that came out of a country divided over some serious issues like slavery. He's a troll, basically.

He's really off.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


YOU don't support Roy Moore but your dear leader DOES. And you love you some Trump! How do you reconcile your potus, the most IMPORTANT human in politics AND the RNC publicly backing a child predator?

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What the hell are you talking about? People are not WHO they vote for. there is nothing to "reconcile." If one votes for Hillary I could just as soon say how to you reconcile someone knowingly building the foundation of their campaign on a sexual predator. You can only vote for who overall you think holds the positions closest to your own. No one candidate will be exactly like you or even close and I venture to say most will not have as good of morales as the average voter. The other alternative is to not at all, and I don't think that's a good one.

Clinton is a rapist. I bet you voted for him. I don't assume you are a rapist because of that or require you to "reconcile" that. Don't be ridiculous.

Serendipity said...

YOU don't support Roy Moore but your dear leader DOES. And you love you some Trump! How do you reconcile your potus, the most IMPORTANT human in politics AND the RNC publicly backing a child predator?



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To our resident troll...

This is said without snark, without sarcasm or malice, and without a snotty comment. I sincerely wish you peace, joy and happiness this holiday season and hope that you find an answer to whatever it is that is missing in your life that makes you feel the need to insult bloggers here and the blog owner, which is evident by your twitter posts. You have a personal vendetta against her and it seems that these condescending and rude comments, just for the sake of arguing, somehow fill the void in your life and I hope that this gets resolved.

Something is amiss, and I do wish you a happy holiday season, regardless of your religious beliefs (if you have them).

Who you are inside is what helps you make and do everything in life. Discovering the truth about ourselves is a lifetime's work, but it's worth the effort. Honest.

jolie Jacquelyn said...

Serentipity said.....


To our resident troll...

This is said without snark, without sarcasm or malice, and without a snotty comment. I sincerely wish you peace, joy and happiness this holiday season and hope that you find an answer to whatever it is that is missing in your life that makes you feel the need to insult bloggers here and the blog owner, which is evident by your twitter posts. You have a personal vendetta against her and it seems that these condescending and rude comments, just for the sake of arguing, somehow fill the void in your life and I hope that this gets resolved.

Something is amiss, and I do wish you a happy holiday season, regardless of your religious beliefs (if you have them).

Who you are inside is what helps you make and do everything in life. Discovering the truth about ourselves is a lifetime's work, but it's worth the effort. Honest.

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Amen...

Sue said...

Well said Serendipity! If our resident troll has such a problem with Roy Moore and POTUS maybe she should go find a political blog where people will agree with everything she says.

Sue said...

Well said Serendipity! If our resident troll has such a problem with Roy Moore and POTUS maybe she should go find a political blog where people will agree with everything she says.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Well said Serendipity! If our resident troll has such a problem with Roy Moore and POTUS maybe she should go find a political blog where people will agree with everything she says.

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I agree that a political blog could partly be the answer, but I suspect that Troll's issue is not so much with politics, but with Admin, and therefore she (or he) needs to be insulting and pick a fight. I have no idea why, and I don't need to know why. It's really just sad and yes, disturbing.

Tucker's Mom said...

Alabama is about to elect a pedophile who believes America was at its best during SLAVERY, refers to Asians and Native Americans as "reds and yellows," and thinks 9/11 was a punishment for our sinful ways, but let's focus on these two lines in a yearbook to distract from the reality of what is happening, shall we?
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Shall we? Uh, no.
Moore has other women whom he dated and are very credible. If you want to ignore critical thinking and conduct a witch hunt, count me out.
I'm with admin. I wouldn't vote for Moore BEFORE any of these women came forward, because I don't agree with his views and wouldn't vote in someone like Kim Davis, who refuses to comply with laws, especially laws regarding equal rights.

Tucker's Mom said...

Hmm...my last post seemed to get submitted immediately. Maybe Blogger fixed the problem.
Hope so!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Well said Serendipity! If our resident troll has such a problem with Roy Moore and POTUS maybe she should go find a political blog where people will agree with everything she says.

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I was going to suggest Reddit. There's so much more activity there about these issues and more people would be willing to engage.

But, then, I suspect they are not interested one bit in having a real discussion about this. Only in playing "gotchya" with me.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

This is amazing. Christopher Plummer pinch hit for Kevin Spacey in All The Money in the World, taking over the role as Getty when Spacey was out. A couple weeks ago they threw together the new scenes and spliced them into the movie. There was no time to prepare or digest the role, just jump right in and get it done.

I wake up this morning and see he got nominated for a Golden Globe for it! LOL! This has to be the quickest down and dirty performance to ever get nominated.

Tucker's Mom said...

Christopher Plummer is a treasure.

Wow. I have to check out all the nominations. I've been following the NYC bombing.
NY'ers are tough cookies.
Looks like the ISIS-inspired loser injured himself.
Good. Hope it hurts like hell.

foxy said...

I think Christopher Plummer is an excellent J. P. Getty. He makes the roll look like he is actually Mr. Getty. Much better I think than Kevin Spacey. Just my opinion.

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