Wednesday, January 4, 2017

Discussion Thread: Sweet 16 1/3/2017

Sweet 16
It's the twins sweet 16! Kate allows Mady and Cara to plan their own party and tensions run high. Kate finds the moment bittersweet, while the twins are just happy to be with their friends.

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Tucker's Mom said...


I agree with those that believe that TFW doesn't let the kids see the current episodes because of the way they've been edited. I wonder if Mady knows how she comes across on screen.
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Mady has been increasingly excoriated in the comment section of any and every article written about them.
The blame is totally on Kate, right down to not taking a hard stance with Mady and not indulging her impertinent tendencies.

Layla said...

So, his season's ratings were:
Episode 1 890,000
Episode 2 860,000
Episode 3 736,000
Episode 4 622,000
Episode 5 560,000
Episode 6 652,000
Episode 7 916,000
Episode 8 804,000
Season average: 755,000
That's 262,000 lower than last season's average. Kate should feel humiliated by those numbers, and by the horrible behavior of her whole family (except the boys) being exposed for the public to see, but she's not. Maybe TLC is just trying to expose her for the psycho witch she is, and they are holding nothing back. If it's this bad now, wait til they show more episodes. People are going to wonder why Collin was sent away and not Kate.

Formerly Duped said...

Flimsy, I'm glad you made that point about Bill Berloni. I am a great fan and read his books, including Dog Tails, about his showbiz animals. All are rescues, and his priorities are their comfort and safety.He also looks out for the kids in the shows.

TLC stinks said...

"Admitted" into a facility would be a better term than enrolled. Enrolled still sounds like he's in a boarding school. You don't enroll in psych treatment. You are admitted into inpatient psychiatric care.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Everyone keeps saying the ratings are so bad TLC will have to stop filming. I don't agree.

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Not "everyone," Kylie. I agree with you. As long as viewers tune in to see Kate (and Mady) behaving badly, TlC knows where it's bread is buttered, so to speak. People have been saying for years that she's toast, but for some reason, she comes back and I have no idea why, other than that the network knows that there is a market for nasty women and their spoiled kids. It's that darn proverbial train wreck for those who think she's horrible but can't turn away, and a love affair for those naive sheep who think she's the best parent on the planet. It's sauce for the goose and gravy for the gander.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Is it me or is the Sandie fan getting more aggressive?She's referring to one of the kate haters tweets about Collin.She's acting like she knows what is going on
Sandie
‏@SandieBellz
👀this bitch knows nothing other than what it makes up in it’s empty head

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She's always been passive-aggressive as well as downright nasty, depending on who gets under her skin and how the spirit moves her.

I'd express it a different way, but there are some on Kate's Twitter who *do" make up things as they go along and have a penchant for embellishment.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Dwindle, if you're still reading, I wish you were here for some virtual hand-holding.

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Yes, as well as Auntie for her humor! We were supposed to go to the Rumspringa brewery for some serious tasting, but I have no idea where she is!

jamesvader1194 said...

But apart from the ratings there also the problem with Collin?Kate pretty much hinted he's not home and so he's been gone for such a long time now.If Collin is never going to come home then how is TLC going to film a show called Kate plus 8 without the 8th child?I sadly think IF collin never films again TLC will do like what they did to Josh duggar and pretend he doesn't exist.I wouldn't be shocked if that is what TLC's plan would be IF they are still filming.

PA Dutch Mom said...

I'd express it a different way, but there are some on Kate's Twitter who *do" make up things as they go along and have a penchant for embellishment.

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SERIOUS embellishments. There are many times when I shake my head, wondering how they come up with the stuff that they do, knowing full well it's way off base.

Hey, Tucker's Mom and locals...ready for 60 degrees tomorrow? Roads were horrible this morning after that overnight freezing rain. What a roller coaster winter we've been having.

Mel said...

I saw an ad for an upcoming episode of Sister Wives.

Guess what they're doing. Playing a contrived game.

TLC producers have no imagination whatsover.

TLC stinks said...

People watch nasty women. Think Kardashian. What's different is that kids are involved and Mandy's reputation is trashed. She is too immature to realize what her mother is doing to her. She'll forever be cast as the insolent young woman. I believe her personality is no different with cameras off. She has behaved like this since she was little. Both she and Cara don't behave well. And terebyou have it.

Tucker's Mom said...

IF TLC continues to film, the only things I can think of that could stop the insanity are Jon getting a court order to stop it, or public backlash, which I think we're on the brink of.
Kate was able to usher in the news of Collin, and the new season, with Norman Rockwell-worthy tableaus of her lily-white-clad family, smiling like nobody's business.
People accepted the premise that sometimes children need such intensive treatment that they are placed in an inpatient facility, to get the best of care.
But now? 8 months later? The boy not even home or visiting home or seeing siblings? The family carrying on happier than ever with puppies and the best parties and vacations EVER?
That is outrageous.

Warmth Of The Sun said...

The comments after the "Collin returns" stories are brutal, just scathing. She really isn't too well admired, is she? Even poor Milo couldn't possibly do damage control. She'd be pulling out her hair and totally exhausted to the point of having to call in her Executive Ewe Understudies!

Sad but true said...

Tucker's Mom said... 1

The blame is totally on Kate, right down to not taking a hard stance with Mady and not indulging her impertinent tendencies.
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I think "impertinent" understates her behavior. "Imperious" is more like it. Either way, she seems to be as bipolar as Mommy. They both need to be on meds and in treatment of some sort.

Tucker's Mom said...

Hey, Tucker's Mom and locals...ready for 60 degrees tomorrow? Roads were horrible this morning after that overnight freezing rain. What a roller coaster winter we've been having.

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No ice here, but we're all complaining about the temperature flux being so huge- like 40 degrees!
I'm very happy to have 60 degree temps, but almost wish it would stay cold long enough for me to get used to it!
All I ask for for one really nice, big snowstorm that socks us in for a few days.

Tucker's Mom said...

I think "impertinent" understates her behavior. "Imperious" is more like it. Either way, she seems to be as bipolar as Mommy. They both need to be on meds and in treatment of some sort.
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She seems to never be happy. It must be very unnerving to have to live with someone so mercurial as Mady.
You never know when you're going to be blindsided by her mood.

Sheeple Herder said...

I saw part of the episode last night and had to stop watching because it was just that painful. Several of the kids have no interest at all in being on TV, and most of them have no problem solving skills whatsoever. If that's what it looks like when the cameras are on, I'd hate to see what it's like when they cameras are dark.

As for Kate- Karma's a bitch. You're in for a rough ride sista!!

foxy said...

It is hard to believe the younger kids will be 13 years old in 4 months. They seem to have the maturity level of 9 year olds. What grade are they in now? Maybe 6th grade?

Anonymous said...

I've been reading some of the comments posted on the Daily Mail and TLC's K+8 FB page. Heartbreaking to read Collin "looks drugged out of his mind", "zoned out" and "over medicated". Also, "nasty Maddy" and her "stinking attitude".

I'm surprised people watched in the number reported. The people who are commenting are, I believe, taking the time to show real concern for the lack of health and happiness of these children. The comments are scathing but people are not commenting for the sake of being scornful. It would behoove TLC to take notice.

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CC said...

RoxyHelen said...

Aaden says it's funny but not once do he or his siblings use the word cupcake. Maybe a stretch but I'm not sure the boys weren't talking about something else and production cut that in.
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I agree! I forgot to say that one earlier when I mentioned Hannah saying it was so embarrassing. There was no context.

CC said...

Enrolled is a good word. Its use isn't limited to a school. It also means to be a listed member of an institution or facility, formally and officially registered in a program.
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I disagree. Yes, all you said is true but in this case it's deceiving. Collin is in a facility, not some nice boarding school. It just reminds me of Kate speak.

NJGal51 said...

Mady can be honest but Collin can't. Interesting clip from twitter.

@DonutsForCollin: @Kateplusmy8 allowing Mady 2B obnoxious bossy mini-Kate bc "we are all honest with one another" BUT WHEN COLLIN WAS HONEST WTF! watch2End https://twitter.com/DonutsForCollin/status/819322524534272003/video/1

Midnight Madness said...

She seems to never be happy. It must be very unnerving to have to live with someone so mercurial as Mady.
You never know when you're going to be blindsided by her mood.

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I wonder if she is like this in real life and school, or if she's directed by TLC and Kate to be a brat on television for drama because they know that's what the viewing public is expecting to see.

Layla said...

I think Mady is just like Kate. She craves attention and drama and wants the cameras on her at all times. I bet if you asked her why the public has such a negative impression of her, she'd say they are just jealous. Exactly what her mother says. and it's all worth it if she gets to be on TV.

Midnight Madness said...

If Collin is never going to come home then how is TLC going to film a show called Kate plus 8 without the 8th child?

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Oh, they would find a way! They'd might just change the name of the show. It's not rocket science.

Why wouldn't he ever come home? 'Ever' is a long, long time. Doesn't it all depend on his prognosis, his treatment, and how he is responding? I find it hard to believe that he would be in a facility for the rest of his life.

Vanessa said...

So please explain to me why those Gosselin kids are not allowed to watch the show they are "starring" in?
She's f&#%@*$ nuts

Layla said...

Tucker's Mom (142),
I was a Brit in another life, too! I love Brit shows, Brit humor, the beautiful scenery and castles and even fashions. When I was young and Fergie was photographed in her flowered jeans, my mother arranged for a relative from London to send a pair over for me (without realizing that U.K. sizes are about 2 sizes smaller than US ones). I had to do a lot of jumping jacks to be able to fit into them, but it was worth it. I made quite a splash in my middle-of-nowhere Midwestern hometown. The Brit relatives still send us regular boxes of yummy Brit foods-- Bisto, chocolate HobNobs, Cadbury chocolates (we fight over the Double Decker bars and Buttons), teas, jams, clotted cream...sigh. And we have all tried (and hated) Marmite. We're saving for our next trip over there. Or perhaps I should forget saving and sell out my family to TLC for a free trip. My boys are pretty entertaining! ***not gonna happen***

Tucker's Mom said...

I bet if you asked her why the public has such a negative impression of her, she'd say they are just jealous.
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"Haters gonna hate" and all that, and she'd shrug it off.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

I disagree. Yes, all you said is true but in this case it's deceiving. Collin is in a facility, not some nice boarding school. It just reminds me of Kate speak.

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Who said he is in a boarding school, or if it was even implied as such? He is enrolled in a treatment program. I don't think that's being deceitful at all.

Oh, and Kate's still nuts.

Lynne In RI said...

TLC (4): ""Admitted" into a facility would be a better term than enrolled. Enrolled still sounds like he's in a boarding school. You don't enroll in psych treatment. You are admitted into inpatient psychiatric care."

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Did any of the internet tabs/stories suggest he was in school, boarding or otherwise?

Why does the word enrolled sound like he's in a boarding school? Can't one also be enrolled in gymnastic classes, summer camp, a treatment program, among other things?

Sad but true said...

Yep, Mommy's definitely on the female bodybuilding track. Or maybe she's going for Rhonda Rousey's job since we know she won't do anything where she's not on TeeVee. What a ridiculous photo, I sincerely hope she threw her back out with this stupid stunt.

kateplusmy8 It's definitely getting harder..but still not impossible (and if you must know, I lifted her 3 times before we got good pics lol) to lift her😂👍🏽! #Nanuq #MyCurrentWeightLiftingProgram #MyNineMonthOldPuppy

kateplusmy8 My best guess is that she weighs 75 pounds now! My back agrees lol! Now excuse me while I go forage for some Motrin 😳😳! @alylmoser

miloandjack2016 Haha...#CrazyDogLady you are determined to cradle your #FurBaby! Give you credit...stronger than me & impressed #Nanuq is at ease w/you doing it? @kateplusmy8

miloandjack2016 Have you taken either #Nanuq or #Mak on a leash to #PetsMart yet? @kateplusmy8

kateplusmy8 Yes. Took Nanuq once. Mak isn't fond of vehicles, parking lots, traffic lol. He's a 'home body' like Shoka. He goes to the groomer/puppy day care reluctantly and has a good time with his dog friends but likes being at home.... It's fine. Nan just needs to be all up in everything that's happening 😜 And during that trip, naturally, I purchased half the store (the half I didn't already own) at her request! :) @miloandjack2016

mydmaxx2581 Does she still get on your bed?

kateplusmy8 Yes. Not to sleep but lately jumps up again to gnaw on her ball and get a massage...:) then jumps down to her bed and conks out! These puppies are getting up to 4-5 hours a day of outdoor exercise, which is great! They conk out when they get in bed! I even had to up their food bc they are moving moving moving:)! @mydmaxx2581

Gee, I don't remember K8 upping the kids' food when they were getting more active. She sure has learned a lot since those kid-raising days, huh.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


We're streaming "The Crown". Highly recommend. Don't want it to end. So well done.
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OMG, I've watched it twice.


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I loved it! Can't wait for future seasons.

Sad but true said...

Milo just can't stop.

miloandjack2016 Noticing how MUCH THICK FUR. she has now!! Amazing...definitely a good bed warmer on cold nites! Are she & #Shoka still camping out w/you at bedtime? @kateplusmy8

miloandjack2016@kateplusmy8 Good for you! Continue to take her..socialize her out in public. I imagine her sheer size & beauty attracts ALOT of attention!! 😋

Yes, we all knows how much K8 loves to attract attention.

mydmaxx2581@kateplusmy8 They seem to be so well adjusted and happy. I can just imagine how much that dog food bill is. With our 2 at 100 lbs each we buy BIG bags of dog food usually at Costco. I'm sure you do the same. 👍

Well adjusted and happy, so very unlike K8's kids. And speaking of food bills, how does a piecin' and patchin' mom of 7 justify two more large dog mouths to feed? Oh that's right, production will cover it.

Tucker's Mom said...

OT- another binge rec is Good Girls Revolt

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4687892/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Leslie said...

You know those sheets ended up on Kate's bed because she made sure the girls got the king size sheets.
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You know Susan, I have to disagree with this. I remember Kate tweeted awhile ago the specifics of her sheets on her bed. They came from some website and were very expensive.

Based on that, I highly doubt Kate would put any Target (or whatever big brand store) sheets on her precious bed. No less, red ones and purple ones. I thought she may use these in the guest house or even on the dogs when they came in wet. Or why use them on anything. I would not put it pass Kate to simply throw them in her garage and then sell them at the next garage sale. After all, it was not her money that was spent. Nor did it come out of her TLC paycheck. I think she wanted the king-size simply because they covered up more space.

Sad but true said...

Looking at K8 with that 75-lb dog in her arms leaves no question in my mind she could effectively manhandle any one of her six "littles." The clips I've seen of Collin in last night's show, he looks about 60 pounds to me. No contest.

Turn out the lights said...

How does a piecing and patching single mom of 8 (oops 7) buy half of pets mart?? She sure is spending a lot on her dogs.

There was a clip of Kate and madi planning the party- using 2 Mac computers!
Nothing but the best for the girls!

CS said...

Did anyone notice the two large blue and white throw pillows in her target shopping cart? They weren't on either of the sofa's during the game show.

Layla said...

Leslie (35),
I remember that tweet. It was very obvious from the over-the-top gushing that she was promoting the sheets. She was doing a lot of Twitter promotion at that time--for Coffee Mate, Bella Bars, some dress company (Elissa Suzanne or something), Parentables, some cheap jewelry thing, etc. She probably got a free set of sheets for her troubles. But now she's not doing the promotion stuff so she either has to get whatever TLC will pay for, or buy her own. We all know which she would choose to do, even if she only gets cheap Target sheets.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think the difference in tone on Facebook vs. Twitter is obvious. Kate doesn't seem to be on Facebook and so it's more of a discussion forum, much like this place, where you're not there to get the celeb's attention or suck up but rather to have a real discussion about something.

Most people are on twitter to interact person to person, often with the subject of your conversation yourself. It's not a good place to have a "discussion". It's rather sound bytes thrown out at various people, back and forth, with Kate often responding directly. It's a lot more uncomfortable to really dive deep into these issues knowing Kate is right there able to jump in at any time. She stifles the conversation on twitter, actually. The Facebook discussion have been, naturally, much more substantive.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

But no police officer finds a child prostitute and walks away saying Have fun! Headlines like "child prostitution is now legal" are meant to inflame while being full of misinformation.

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That's all correct. It really is a shame this is getting spun as those liberal weenies out there making prostitution legal. Not so. Actually, we've had these supportive services in place for a year now and for a year cops have funneled hundreds of exploited children our way, this law is just solidifies what we're already doing to help these kids. We're gonna do it anyway, law or no law. If cops refuse to arrest and prosecutors refuse to prosecute, no law is even necessary! This just codifies it. This conservative here gives this two thumbs up. Some of the services are really cool, like empowerment camps for teen girls--the girls have LOVED it. Also even the whole intake process has been changed greatly such that there is intensive training on how to talk to and support the children in a manner that makes them feel comfortable and builds trust so that they will ACCEPT the services instead of running.

CA has this novel idea that there might actually be less child prostitution if we support the victims and treat them like victims of the adults who exploit them, instead of throwing them in jail. We don't believe a child can "consent" to prostitution when they are a child.

Can you imagine if we treated exploited child ACTORS/REALITY STARS this way? Recognizing they've been exploited and it's not their fault, offering support and services to transition away from exploitation and developing their self worth?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

There shouldn't be any filming until homework is done. Not that there should be any filming at all.

Pure speculation about the amount of homework they had that Sunday. Besides, it doesn't matter the amount. Kate said they had homework. Whether it's 5 minutes or 5 hours worth, it's Sunday, even having any homework left to do and then embarking on filming an episode is very foolish. Kate is the adult here, and continues to refuse to grow up and set boundaries for her children. She doesn't put their best interests first especially when filming is involved, it's blatant. She will NEVER shut off the cameras because a kid really just needs to finish up his assignment. Never.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#40), and it just infuriates me that these kids are at the mercy of TLC's schedule, and don't have their mother as an advocate for their best interests.

Last night's show was filmed last January. The kids had been getting up at the crack of dawn every weekday to go to school, and coming home when it was dark. And they had to spend their whole weekend making a TV show? With a crowd of people in their house, making them perform like circus monkeys? Didn't one of those 8 kids have a friend who wanted them to come over, or a movie they wanted to see, or a birthday party they were invited to? Or maybe they just hang out at home and unwind, and get energized for the week ahead? And this has been going on for a DECADE.

TFW has bragged for years about her children's organic diet. But her abuse and neglect and hunger for fame has caused them incalculable damage.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Admin (#40), and it just infuriates me that these kids are at the mercy of TLC's schedule, and don't have their mother as an advocate for their best interests.


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Agree. And there is the crucial point that child labor laws are trying to make, and that is that the parent has a conflict of interest.

When you put a child out there as the key to a parent getting a great deal of money, it's hard for some parents, Kate included, to put their best interests first. It's a clear conflict of interest. Sure, not every parent will be swayed by it, but enough do for it to be a grave concern.

At the end of the day it does not surprise me at all they really had homework to do that day. Not only was Kate being irresponsible and not making sure they did it before filming began (perhaps she was too distracted with prepping for the big film day that she didn't bother), but she didn't do what clearly was best for them.

In any other scenario we all know most good parents would make them do their homework first. Want a friend over? Go finish your homework. Want to see a movie? Finish your homework. Want to go play outside? Finish it first. Really anything else would be put off to finish the homework.

But because Kate's not about to tell production to go away so they can finish their homework, what would normally happen in any other scenario won't. It's so wrong, so detrimental. It's not just a little homework, it's a metaphor to so much else, so much that comes before their best interest big and small.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I also love how whoever manages the TLC shows (individual) facebook pages, never puts up a show update on Kate's page until just a couple of hours before airtime but always update LPBW and Outdaughtered way early in the daytime.

No effort at all. Kinda like Kate is with her own social media.

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That's really funny, though I wonder why they don't just add all the three shows at once. Kinda weird.

Kate's going to continue to get blown out of the water by Little People if Kate sticks around...they just announced the pregnancy on the show, and they are teasing with little snippet mini-movies about current events, like they just had their gender reveal party. It's a boy. Aw.

GollyGee said...

Kate's going to continue to get blown out of the water by Little People if Kate sticks around...they just announced the pregnancy on the show, and they are teasing with little snippet mini-movies about current events, like they just had their gender reveal party. It's a boy. Aw.

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Zach and his wife are going to make wonderful parents.

TLC stinks said...

Mady is going to be one lonely young lady, like mom, with her attitude and complaining.

You know, I think she was starving Colllin by using food as a punishment. Thank goodness there was some event that saved him even if he is in a facility. I would be astounded if she keeps custody. TLC has got to walk away.

I think she has turned to this doggie loving because it's not happening with the kids. And yes, the tups are incredibly immature for their age. She's made them that way, not because they were preemies. Immaturity allows her to control them. The girls drive me crazy. And Cara and Mady are incapable of speaking coherently without "like" in every sentence ( a particular pet peeve of mine). Of course, Kate does the same thing...amazing for a 41 year old. What a mess they are (except the boys). They must take after Jon.

CC said...

I think Kate doesn't allow the younger kids to watch Kate Plus 8 because of two reasons.

One... They don't like how they look or are portrayed on the show. The probably will refuse to film, or at least, refuse to do certain things, wear certain things, etc.

Two... They will see and hear Kate's narratives and couch interviews, and realize just how much she lies, and hear all the negative things she says about them, etc.

There's no way those kids would watch the shows and think everything that happens on it is so funny. Those kids know the truth and will see the difference between the show and real life.

Irish 33 said...

If they continue this boring trainwreck of a show next season it just shows TLC has one poor lineup of shows, there has to be something in production that can beat her hideous numbers

Kate's Fetid Soul said...

GollyGee said... 46
Kate's going to continue to get blown out of the water by Little People if Kate sticks around...they just announced the pregnancy on the show, and they are teasing with little snippet mini-movies about current events, like they just had their gender reveal party. It's a boy. Aw.

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Zach and his wife are going to make wonderful parents.

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Congratulations to the young couple.

Isn't the daughter engaged? That's another ratings grabber.

I wish them all well, but TLC is prohibited in my house.

I may change my mind if they go back to the educational network they used to be.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

CC (#48), great observations. Plus, the tups may finally be at the eye-rolling-at-Mom stage (where the twins have been for years). There's a time when there's nobody nerdier or more embarrassing than your mother -- even if she just says something innocuous in front of your friends that you think is lame. So can you imagine having your mother acting like an arrested adolescent on TV? Bikini romps, fright wigs, breakdowns during fun family activities -- it could be very disturbing to those kids. Living it is bad enough. But to then see it packaged as entertainment?

Sometimes when I'm writing this stuff down, it strikes me how uniquely awful these kids' childhoods have been. And the disparity between the "golden platter" life TFW brags about giving them, and the burdens she has created for them, is striking.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Agree, Zach and Tori are going to make great parents. He found such a sweet, compassionate woman to marry. She's a teacher!

This new revelation about the kids not watching the show after all is a big red flag. HUGE. Kate is saying or doing SOMETHING on the show that she thinks it's better they not see. Best guess she's not being honest in her interviews and the footage is portraying them negatively when perhaps other edits could portray them more positively or provide context to bad behavior. They're old enough now to say wait I don't like how that is portrayed. She is clearly on pins and needles, terrified any little thing will make them refuse to film. She's already one down, if even just one or two more refuse to film she could be in a load of trouble. Kate plus 7 can be pulled off, but once you get down to plus 5 or 4?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

CS (#38), good eye spotting those pillows that didn't wind up in the game show! But I'm sure TFW reimbursed TLC for them if they weren't used...BWAHAHA!

Contrast these past few grab-and-go shopping trips to that demure young PA mom at the store with her calculator and her pile of coupons, looking for bargains while some nice neighbor came over to keep an eye on her babies while they napped. "I never ever ever buy milk unless it's on sale." I bought it all hook, line and sinker. Didn't realize back then that TLC was paying for that shopping trip. And that TFW could've run out to shop whenever she wanted, because she had tons of help.

GollyGee said...

Kate's Fetid Soul said...50

I may change my mind if they go back to the educational network they used to be.

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But, but, but, it is educational!

Kate Plus 8 is shown how (a single mom do it all with no help) NOT TO raise a gaggle of kids from birth on.

The original DVD's (not edited) will cost a pretty penny!

Vanessa said...

So Leah didn't budge when calLing her out on not letting them watch the new shows, but did you see khate deny deny deny? "I DO SO LET YOU WATCH!!" Leah gave it right back.

TLC stinks said...

I think she has only mentioned Mady watching the episodes in her bedroom with her. Mady is the only one, other than Kate, that likes to watch herself.

I thought that years ago the kids watched the old shows, but then those have Jon in them, so perhaps those are verboten too.

locaylyocul said...

TLC stinks said... 47
Mady is going to be one lonely young lady, like mom, with her attitude and complaining.

You know, I think she was starving Colllin by using food as a punishment. Thank goodness there was some event that saved him even if he is in a facility. I would be astounded if she keeps custody. TLC has got to walk away.

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I wouldn't be surprised. She always used dessert as a weapon/threat. There was an episode (I think Utah) where Beth was watching I think Mady and it came out that Kate had said no dinner if she didn't behave. I think on the RV trip there were comments made during the splashing on the white water trip about no dinnerl

TLC stinks said...

Yeah, Flimsy, we sure were duped years ago. I believed her coupon shopping because that's what I used to do. It was interesting because there was so much to buy for babies. Now the shopping trips with kids in tow make no sense since the kids do not need to come. Any mother in her right mind wants to shop WITHOUT kids. I don't understand the purpose. Even showing her shopping with the twins is beyond annoying. I hated to go to the mall with my teen daughter!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Vanessa (#55), surely poor Leah was mistaken. We know about the legendary Family Fun Nights at Miss Gosselin's Home for Exploited Children! Kids, dogs, and bird pile onto Mommy's cozy bed every Tuesday to watch the latest heartwarming episode of J&K+8 Minus Daddy and Brother! Mommy tenderly gives the dogs massages, while the children offer witty observations for her to share with the fans, whom they all LOVE! They also provide Mommy with foot rubs and support as she re-lives her latest onscreen meltdown!

NJGal51 said...

"Agree, Zach and Tori are going to make great parents. He found such a sweet, compassionate woman to marry. She's a teacher!"
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And TFW was a nurse. Occupation has nothing to do with parenting abilities as we've seen with TFW. I'll have to reserve judgment on whether or not they'll be good parents. If they decide to keep the child off of TV then I will agree. If, however, they decide that reality TV is the way to go, well then exploitation by any other name....

Anonymous said...

I agree Zach and Tori have all the attributes of being great parents but only if they refuse to continue filming their child for entertainment purposes.

bm

GollyGee said...

RV trip there were comments made during the splashing on the white water trip about no dinner.

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localyocal, you are right about the RV trip!

Remember on the rafting trip? She specifically said, If anyone gets me wet, will get NO DINNER!

THEN, WHY IN THE ********(&^$%^#&$&$#&$^@^@( ARE YOU IN A RAFT GOING DOWN A RAGING RIVER!?! Then threatening the children's dinner. If I had been a passenger in that raft, so can you guess what I would of done? I would of pulled an Elaine in the spa. 9
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She must of had her makeup on just right and then just go and slip on something and take off with Steve after the rafting trip.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Any mother in her right mind wants to shop WITHOUT kids. I don't understand the purpose. Even showing her shopping with the twins is beyond annoying. I hated to go to the mall with my teen daughter!

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I must really be the odd person out. I guess I'm not in my right mind, but I love shopping with my kids, then finding a new place to eat and having some great talks over lunch. My kids seem to look forward to it and they don't consider me their best friend, only a mom! Sometimes they ask if their friends can tag along. I'll miss these days.

Of course, the stores don't shut down for us and there are no cameras in our faces.

Blowing In The Wind said...

There's no way those kids would watch the shows and think everything that happens on it is so funny. Those kids know the truth and will see the difference between the show and real life.

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If they were brainwashed, I think that they would. She might tell them that they are funny, remember the cute things they said and did, and that everyone just loves them for being so spunky and adorable. When you hear that enough, you might start to believe it.

Mel said...

More than one kid said that they were not allowed to watch the current shows.

Did you see the uproar when TFW tried to deny that she doesn't allow them to watch?

You could see the kids trying to reconcile the dissonance...but, but, but...

Gaslighting at its finest.

Sad but true said...

TLC stinks said... 56
I think she has only mentioned Mady watching the episodes in her bedroom with her. Mady is the only one, other than Kate, that likes to watch herself.
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No, not at all. Here she is on 12/27, Alabama episode:

Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Cringeworthy tower jump moment! My kids are screaming right now 'this is so sad! Oh mommy!' 😥 @TLC #KatePlus8

12/13 (Poconos), when asked who was watching with her:

Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@kyle2688 Mady is here! The little kids will watch it the next day...

11/22 (12th b'day):

Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@cheeseaddict98 just did. They said 'thank you!' 😉😉

Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
The same laughter I hear on TV is echoed in my room while we watch! I LOVE this! #KatePlus8 @TLC

Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Aw I'm loving this pre Thanksgiving #KatePlus8 @TLC 10 yr look back..Watching w/ my kids! I'm so thankful to be their Mommy❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

And there are many more examples from previous seasons. Whether she's lying about the kids being in her room watching with her, or lying about the kids not being allowed to watch the current episodes, she is a LIAR. And her own words prove it.

Mel said...

I noticed that they didn't shut down Target for filming the great and wondrous TFW.

They blurred out the faces of curious on-lookers. Tight shots when they were in the main aisle heading towards the cash registers.

It looked like they were trying to keep filming in the more private side aisles.

jamesvader1194 said...

Blowing In The Wind 6 I guess apart from Milo,the Sandie fan must read here to since she set her account to private after tweeting that tweet.

jamesvader1194 said...

@Sad but true Not to mention the kids have pointed out Kate's lies on the show as well.Remember when she claim the kids wanted her to date and yet on the date episode the kids said that she was the only one talking about dating and that they didn't care about her dating?Thats why i take anything she tweets with a grain of salt.

Formerly Duped said...

Imagine buying bed sheets etc for a one-night at-home game. It's sickening.And Kate looked downright sulky to be losing. Collin seemd to be acting fine, appropriate, engaged, not upset about losing. My, i feel so sad about this child.And Mady- oh dear. This family- how could I have been so duped! (I watched on YouTube btw)

Tucker's Mom said...

I wouldn't be surprised. She always used dessert as a weapon/threat. There was an episode (I think Utah) where Beth was watching I think Mady and it came out that Kate had said no dinner if she didn't behave. I think on the RV trip there were comments made during the splashing on the white water trip about no dinnerl

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I believe Kate routinely uses withholding of food as punishment. She was *dead serious* about that threat.
Kate has maintained control of food always. She still doles food out on their plates, which is beyond ridiculous. While we see the kids in the kitchen prepping food, my guess is that no one is ever allowed to go in there and help themselves.
I think Jon mentioned that they have to ask to get a glass of water.
It's beyond bizarre.
Collin looked thin and...stunted? Not thriving and robust.

Tucker's Mom said...

And there are many more examples from previous seasons. Whether she's lying about the kids being in her room watching with her, or lying about the kids not being allowed to watch the current episodes, she is a LIAR. And her own words prove it.
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Kate has been tripping over her lies a lot more lately.
She's not going to be able to control the narrative for too much longer, and I bet that scares the hell out of her.

Tucker's Mom said...

Formerly Duped said... 70
Imagine buying bed sheets etc for a one-night at-home game. It's sickening
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The money-grab shopping sprees that Kate flaunts every single party or occasion is something that borders on debauchery.
Why don't the sheep get it? Do they walk through Party City or Pet Smart and toss every whimsical item they see into their cart?
Really?
Also, wiping out the supplies is something Kate feels she's always entitled to do.

RoxyHelen said...

Tucker's Mom said... 71

I wouldn't be surprised. She always used dessert as a weapon/threat. There was an episode (I think Utah) where Beth was watching I think Mady and it came out that Kate had said no dinner if she didn't behave. I think on the RV trip there were comments made during the splashing on the white water trip about no dinnerl

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I believe Kate routinely uses withholding of food as punishment. She was *dead serious* about that threat.
Kate has maintained control of food always. She still doles food out on their plates, which is beyond ridiculous. While we see the kids in the kitchen prepping food, my guess is that no one is ever allowed to go in there and help themselves.
I think Jon mentioned that they have to ask to get a glass of water.
It's beyond bizarre.
Collin looked thin and...stunted? Not thriving and robust.

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I remember Jon said in an interview that the kids(at the time 10 and 14 I think) have to ask Kate before they get themselves a snack or water from the fridge. If it's true, the control she has over everything they eat or drink is downright insane. At least some of them are at risk for eating disorders. Jesus, I remember being 5-6 and already being allowed to put in my plate as much as I want of whatever I want and I don't remember ever asking if I can get water, which probably means as soon as I was old enough to get it myself, I did so. I am sure my experience is the same as most peoples.

TLC stinks said...

Sad but true, I agree. She is a liar and made up those tweets.

TLC stinks said...

Blowing, you were lucky. My son detested shopping and my daughter liked to go to those dimly lit expensive stores with LOUD music. Ugh!

TLC stinks said...

I have never thought withholding food should be used as a punishment. Only someone as mean like Kate would do such a thing. Very disturbed by photos I saw of Collin. He was incredibly thin. Definitely not thriving. He was on the New Orleans trip, right? How did he appear or was he not on camera? I hope he feels secure telling his story to counselors. She does not deserve to have him returned home. God bless Collin.

CC said...

Blowing In The Wind said... 64
There's no way those kids would watch the shows and think everything that happens on it is so funny. Those kids know the truth and will see the difference between the show and real life.

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If they were brainwashed, I think that they would. She might tell them that they are funny, remember the cute things they said and did, and that everyone just loves them for being so spunky and adorable. When you hear that enough, you might start to believe it.
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I don't think the kids can be brainwashed if they watch the show. That's why Kate "doesn't let them." Because she can convince them of all that only if they don't watch the shows. Those kids have Kate's number. They bash her on the show and call her out all the time for lying and inconsistencies and being dramatic, annoying, selfish, etc. Can you imagine what they would say IF they DID see her lies and insults on the show?

I do think they are brainwashed when it comes to their father. At least the ones that haven't seen him in a while are. The ones that see him know the truth. The others just know what Kate has them believing. She has been very successful in alienating them. I believe she alienated Alexis and Collin because she doesn't want Jon seeing them and knowing they are being medicated or something along those lines.

Nicky said...

The problem is, she is competing with her kids. She won't let any one of them shine. There have been many activities that she did not need to be there. Ugh. Just so much is wrong about all of this. But she can't blame Jon for this one (she will try!), because she's done it ALL ALONE!

GollyGee said...

Isn't it sickening that, that ************** orders Kobe Beef med. to med. well. It is suppose to be the most expensive cut of meat in the world.

It is 110 dollars a pound.

On the concierge demand list at the Essex, she ordered her, Steve and 8 kids, Kobe Beef Tips.

Say 6 oz. of KBT's on each plate.

That is 450.00 dollars worth of KBT's, including tax. And she also wanted a grilled chicken option for the adults. And explained how she wanted it this way and that way and the salad.

Blah. Blah. Blah.

Those days are over with.

Tucker's Mom said...

Jesus, I remember being 5-6 and already being allowed to put in my plate as much as I want of whatever I want and I don't remember ever asking if I can get water, which probably means as soon as I was old enough to get it myself, I did so. I am sure my experience is the same as most peoples.
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Yes, same here. I was able to help myself in the kitchen every since I can remember.
We had dinner at the table and my parents sat with us, and ate what we ate (except liver-we kids never had to eat that!). I served myself and put my food on my plate.
I was allowed to grab snacks within reason.
I was never made to eat anything. Fortunately, neither of my parents weaponized food.

GollyGee said...

I just don't understand how all of the kids have skimmed under the radar about their weight and thriving with their pediatrician!

They have to go and get their checkups!

But, seriously, Collin looked so pitiful. My heart just cries for him.

Remember when she denied Mady the bottle of water and drank it herself in front of her and didn't give her any?

What if Mady would have been dehydrated and passed out? What if she had to be hospitalized for about a week?

GollyGee said...

Oh, yeah!

She was kinda surprised when someone on twitter said that she saw the receipt at the register at Target said, January, 2016. And she said, so it was filmed a year ago.

TFW said, How did you see THAT?

Busted. It makes me sick watching Aaden crying for his cupcake, letting the girls eat theirs, while they smugly ate them. Then TFW tries to convince them that oh, that was so funny, and then they show the cupcake talk and then all of the boys giggling and laughing saying it was funny.

But I don't believe they were talking about cupcake gate. But they could have but they are just too young to realize that they are being gaslighted. When they get older and they watch crying over the cupcakes then hear their parents say, they forgot about them. It was so funny. It was no big deal.

But when they watch the crying, then hear their parents and then see how hurt they were in the video and what their parents said, that is going to hurt and they will be much older.

Formerly Duped said...

JMO, but the kids do look a healthy weight( a couple even had chubbier stages) to me with the exception of the boys at times. Collin as last seen. Leah has always had a slight build. But I agree about the food rationing- means of control.

GollyGee said...

miloandjack2016@kateplusmy8 LOL. Had to side w/you here! Being a real down to earth #SoMuchToDo mom. ..you wear whats comfortable...practical...and functional!! We cant look like we stepped out of #FashionistaMag & do what we have to do all day!!! 😋 Now lets see those #PottyRunCrocs?

miloandjack2016@kateplusmy8 So next time you do those #Nanuq weight lifting curls...be sure and put on your lil black dress! #DressAppropriately. #NoSweatsAllowed. LOL

Yes how dare you wear sweats in the comfort of your own home! Guess I shouldn't let them know that I'm still I pjs and haven't showered yet!

You really would do ANYTHING for attention wouldn't you?

GollyGee said...

I haven't seen any comments on here about Zorro being on Family Game Show Night.

I gasped when I saw that Zorro was climbing all over TFW's shirt sleeve, her neck and he had a little blue scarf on his neck.

Next thing you know, she is asking one of the girls to take him and take the scarf off because he is chewing his feet and he is nervous or something.

All I could think about is Seattle and all of the other bird whisperers on here.

They just manhandle that poor thing. How has he survived this long?

Nicky said...

Yes, the gluttony when she goes shopping is horrendous. The first store was obviously Micheal's, which is not cheap. When my boys were little (or are they big now? not sure, since her almost 13 yrs olds are still little), and they were into crafting and painting, etc, the dollar store was the best place to get those supplies.

Now, here in Canada, since Target left us (sad day!), the most comparable store would be Walmart. Even buying a cheap set of King sheets would be at least $50. And her kids see this every day. When I go shopping with my kids, I make sure I say if something is expensive, or a good deal.

The Gosselin kids know no bounds. She is doing them no favours by giving them life on a golden platter. Imagine the shock they will have when they go on their first vacation as adults, and suddenly have to pay for all the extra curricular activities they want to do. I do think some of them will turn back to Reality TV to maintain a lifestyle that they grew up in.

Jeanne said...

Her using food as a weapon shows how much she hates her kids. She does not care about their well being. Kids should have water whenever they want of course. They should have all their meals, hopefully well balanced and portioned to age. Snacks are more up in the air as is dessert. You can say snacks are ok or not ok or what they should contain, same with dessert. There are a million other ways to punish your child for misbehavior that still leave them fed. (Not that splashing on a water slide is misbehavior.)

Jillygee said...

GollyGee said... 82
I just don't understand how all of the kids have skimmed under the radar about their weight and thriving with their pediatrician!
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Don't they all look healthy except.....well you know. Poor kid 😢

Layla said...

I think Kate keeps track of every single dime in the production budget and makes sure she spends all of it. If she was allowed $500 for the Target trip, then she was darn well going to get exactly $500 of stuff, including buying herself new sheets and pillows to use up any extra. And probably tossing a few candy bars or packs of gum in the cart in the check-out line if there was a dollar or two left. She is a grifter. She can't help herself.

I think that's why she wanted to be a "producer". She wanted to sniff out every little thing she might be able to squeeze out of the production budget and make sure she got it. Why pay for new glasses for Aaden if she can get it paid for by production? Why not get a separate lobster for everyone to try if there's money for it? Who cares if it was wasteful? She's not paying for it! And she always makes sure they are extra groceries for her to pack up and take home. The greed is mind- boggling.

Formerly Duped said...

None of the kids had anything good to say about their mother in this episode. Mady even almost repeated Kate's exact words from the infamous "no fun things" scene. TFW excused all rudeness and bossiness as good qualities to possess, and that Mady was much like herself. Blind. Deaf. And dumb.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I remember the toddlers were given mini M&M's as rewards during potty training.
I think it was one for #1, and two for #2? Those things are microscopic.

Wasn't one of the punishments in TFW's journal because the kids broke into her
M&M stash?

Tucker's Mom said...

Now, here in Canada, since Target left us (sad day!), the most comparable store would be Walmart. Even buying a cheap set of King sheets would be at least $50. And her kids see this every day. When I go shopping with my kids, I make sure I say if something is expensive, or a good deal.
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I buy extra top sheets for covering beds etc. with the dogs and their dirt and shedding. I get them from the thrift store, or sometimes get lucky at Bed Bath and Beyond and find something on clearance.
Oh well, Kate can just pull out those new sheets for the next filmed yard sale.

High Sodium Content said...

GollyGee said... 82
I just don't understand how all of the kids have skimmed under the radar about their weight and thriving with their pediatrician!

At their age, I'm not sure they go to the dr. for an annual physical. Not like they are getting shots or involved w/ sports that require them. Since they've beeen in the same school, not sure if they would be required as they enter the "upper" grades. Maybe they only see a dr if they're actually sick. The one boy did look very thin and drugged and one of the girls (as seen in her bikini) thanks to her mother, looked almost chubby, which must be killing Kate.

localyocul said...

That link to a tweet upthread showing the clip of when Collin got in trouble for saying a girl's hair was ugly...it is infuriating to watch this knowing what we know now. She targeted that boy until he couldn't stand it anymore IMO. Mady is allowed to berate and bully everyone including Kate, but Collin was treated horribly for a typical brother-sister insult. Not that that was ok but M should be put it her place as well. What she says is many times worse.

Tucker's Mom said...

localyocul said... 95
That link to a tweet upthread showing the clip of when Collin got in trouble for saying a girl's hair was ugly...it is infuriating to watch this knowing what we know now. She targeted that boy until he couldn't stand it anymore IMO. Mady is allowed to berate and bully everyone including Kate, but Collin was treated horribly for a typical brother-sister insult. Not that that was ok but M should be put it her place as well. What she says is many times worse.
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Linking the incident with Kate nagging Collin about telling his sister her hair looked ugly was a good example to contrast how Collin was singled out, and Mady gets to mouth off without reproach.
And yes, Mady has said very ugly, nasty things often, including "hating" her tup siblings.
I've never seen Kate tell her go get a filter!
BTW, Kate's suggestion to Collin to say, "Your hair? It's looked better", was HYSTERICAL.
But, you know, bottom line is that NONE of this should be put out there for entertainment.

foxy said...

Intouch is saying Collin is home now after receiving treatment for his "special needs". Why would they write such an article when obviously it is not true. I think Kate singled him out because he has a mind of his own and she could not control him. I loved how he wanted to dress in a nice shirt and tie. He seems like such a loving child and really wanting to please her. Now one of the girls is going through the same treatment.....not seeing her dad, appearing medicated, etc.

PA Dutch Mom said...

GollyGee said... 82
I just don't understand how all of the kids have skimmed under the radar about their weight and thriving with their pediatrician!

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The kids look fine. Not underweight, not starving, not malnourished. They are not big-boned kids, and appear just about the right height and weight for their ages. Honest.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Yes, same here. I was able to help myself in the kitchen every since I can remember.
We had dinner at the table and my parents sat with us, and ate what we ate (except liver-we kids never had to eat that!). I served myself and put my food on my plate.
I was allowed to grab snacks within reason.
I was never made to eat anything. Fortunately, neither of my parents weaponized food.

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Yep. Same here. Everyone sat at the big table, food was in bowls and we passed them around family-style. We took as much as we thought we could eat. If we wanted seconds, we took seconds. If we wanted dessert, we ate dessert. The beverage was always milk or water, never soda or tea. None of us grew up to be overweight or had issues with body imagine or became anorexic or bulimic.

Good PA Dutch food kept us all normal and happy!
Please pass the chow-chow, liver and onions, Cope's corn, and beef tongue!

JM said...

Golly Gee ....Did you notice Shoka came wandering into the room when Zorro was on her shoulder? No one freaked out that he was there but I never saw him again after that ....

Sad but true said...

More IG! Kate cooking on the grill. Her IG these days is all yellow straw hair and yellow dog fur. Who knew she liked yellow so much? She looks freshly botoxed, turnaround between treatments seems to be getting shorter.

kateplusmy8 Grilling dinner without a coat!!! 62 degrees here at highest today! Alexis said 'I'm so glad it's spring now!' Poor girl will be shocked when temps drop and winter 'comes back'! 😥 #SummerGirl #HateWinter #DinnerTime #Yum

mydmaxx2581 I keep telling you y'all should to TX it was 80 today! It's summer here almost all the time. ☀️ ready when you are 😊

kateplusmy8 I would move to Texas in a literal heartbeat! I LOVE TEXAS!!! @mydmaxx2581

miloandjack2016 I'm an excited girl like Alexis too! We had 70s temps today...oh yay! Never know what you will be wearing from one day to the next! Guess you better not put your shorts away just yet? @kateplusmy8

mydmaxx2581@kateplusmy8 🙏🏻 Ready when you are...are at least a visit soon.

miloandjack2016@barbgilmer1 Yuck...I feel your pain! That is just too cold...and I think that #OldManWinter storm is heading toward @kateplusmy8 ?? Get ready...

miloandjack2016@kateplusmy8 Would it be safe to say...anywhere down south w/a beach in the backyard would be okay? 😋

2angelsinheaven So nice today. Now we can return to the frigid temps and all be sick in 3 days

kateplusmy8 I know! That's exactly what I was thinking today .. Sad we are so jaded and can't just enjoy a warm day, huh? :( @2angelsinheaven

mlal1105Now, weren't we just complaining about our kids not wearing coats in the cold?! @kateplusmy8 😂😂😂

kateplusmy8 Um, yes. And I DID think of that as I wrote that, actually! 😂 @mlal1105

miloandjack2016 So what were you grilling and did you put a few pieces on for your #Furbabies? I know those NOSES were smelling your good cooking? @kateplusmy8

CC said...

Did you notice Shoka came wandering into the room when Zorro was on her shoulder? No one freaked out that he was there but I never saw him again after that
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Did they actually show Shoka and Zorro at the same time? I didn't think they did.
I thought it was once again creative editing.

Although that could explain why we haven't seen or heard from Zorro in ages.

Sad but true said...

Re that clip of Collin being "corrected" by K8, she also says to him (she's talking so fast and her voice is so odd, it's hard to understand) something along the lines of "I don't want to see that 'I'm getting in trouble' look in your eyes." Which is extremely strange, because he IS getting in trouble. The things she picked on with that child were just so ridiculous and without basis. There are not many scenes like this in any other seasons; this one, like the recent one of "Who's going to Daddy's?," seemed very staged to me, like it was put in there to show off something "important" about K8's parenting. Staged except for Collin's reaction---it almost looked like he was set up to get in trouble. Very disturbing.

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Sad but true God milo is such a kiss a**.In fact can Butt kisser or BK be another name we can call her on here like Gladys?It amazes me how the fans always whine about how the non fans don't know anything and yet milo always assume she knows things.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Butt kisser or BK be another name we can call her on here like Gladys?

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Gladys is Gladys and will forever be known as such. If you called her BK, how would that distinguish her from the sub-ewes, such as Denise, Carlene, Stale Cereal Lady?

Sheepless In Seattle said...

miloandjack2016 So what were you grilling and did you put a few pieces on for your #Furbabies?

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Why in the world doesn't she just move in with Kate and then she wouldn't have to ask these inane questions? Why would Gladys care what Kate was grilling? Does she imagine that she's sitting there having dinner with Kate and in her fantasy world needs to know what she's eating?

Paper Plates and Paper Towels Forever-really pisses me off said...

I've been lurking for the past 2 years. Was a long time poster. Have decided to come back into the fold. I just watched the turning 40 episode again after some time. I urge everyone to watch the part where Kate and Deanna are at the Mexican restaurant. Kate appears a bit loopy after her bubble gum martini and is now on a glass of wine. Deanna is yammering on about some stupid shit regarding their friendship and who would of thought blahbady blah blah. Kate makes a comment in response which is so telling. Can't remember the words that she spoke but the look on her face when she said it is, 'I am saddled with these kids forever' and it is not a lovely look, believe me. Please. Watch this scene. It is incredibly telling. I replayed it a few times and could not believe what I was seeing. Kind of shocked me that this shrew did not have the wherewithal to hold back her emotions on camera. Booze. The Ultimate Truth Serum.
Paper Plates Forever.

GollyGee said...

Gladys for CEO of Sheeple LLC.

Jeanne said...

Kate LOVES TEXAS!!!! I guess that's the next trip for filming. They could visit San Antonio and say dumb things about the Alamo. They could visit Austin and Kate could freak out over the bats under the bridge.

I wonder where Kate will move to when the kids are grown. She hates PA. Maybe NYC near Essex House and her hairdresser?

TLC stinks said...

I've always thought that Collin showed signs of being on the autism spectrum as a toddler. Very mild symptoms. IMO, over time his challenges were not addressed and other psychological issues emerged. Kate is entirely to blame for where Collin is at this moment.

TLC stinks said...

Jeanne, and she could also do a beach vacay in Texas!

TLC stinks said...

Paper Plates, not surprised. She thought she'd have Jon there forever to dump the kids on Jon. If Jon approved of the filming, there would be no reluctance to share parenting after the divorce.

She's all about making as much money as possible while they are all home so SHE can be comfortable financially after they turn 18.

Sad but true said...

TLC stinks said... 112

She's all about making as much money as possible while they are all home so SHE can be comfortable financially after they turn 18.
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Yeah, I don't think K8 will ever work a "regular" job again. Her singular goal for the past decade has been to make enough $$$ to be able to "retire" as soon as the kids are out of the house. I think she'll sell up ASAP, too, despite all her protestations that this will be the kids' and grandkids' old homestead in perpetuity. It will take too much money and effort to run that place once the set shuts down. She'll be going somewhere warm---hey, maybe she'll get a place next door to Doofus.

I think the only job she would consider at this point would be in TV. She fancies herself a producer, but that's probably too much work, and she is appallingly deficient on the creative front. So, barring her face being in front of a camera, the vanity "executive producer" title is what I see her shooting for. Hard to imagine anyone desperate enough to take her on, though.

Tucker's Mom said...

Sad but true said... 103

Re that clip of Collin being "corrected" by K8, she also says to him (she's talking so fast and her voice is so odd, it's hard to understand) something along the lines of "I don't want to see that 'I'm getting in trouble' look in your eyes." Which is extremely strange, because he IS getting in trouble. The things she picked on with that child were just so ridiculous and without basis. 

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I found that very odd too. First, Colin is getting in trouble for making an offhand remark about his sister's hair. Then he's getting in trouble for having a look on his face that he's getting in trouble. That poor boy can't win. Kate making fun of his face was just ridiculous. What is his face supposed to look like?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#113), I agree that TFW only has her eye on a TV career. And there is no way she would be hired as a producer on anything that she wasn't also involved with on camera. She is not creative, not a hard worker (unless you want her to clean out a fridge with toothpicks for 4 hours to avoid her kids), and not, in my opinion, particularly intelligent. WIthout those 3 qualities, she wouldn't be a good producer.

She's putting a lot of effort to be chummy with the fans. Compare that to the stretches when she's just disappeared for weeks. I think she's worried about the ratings. Or maybe she's just laying some groundwork
to score some birthday gift cards in March.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Who remembers when poor Aunt Janet mounted the pony at the tups' 3rd birthday carnival party, and TFW said something like, "Poor horse!" Where was her lecture?

Jane said...

OT Stuff

Saw an incredible movie last night - "Hidden Figures" based on the true story of three African-American, brilliant woman who were employed by NASA during the early years of the space program. Best movie I've seen in a long time.

I may of heard of author Louise Penny here originally and also remember Hillary Clinton mentioning her as a favorite author. I've been working my way through the Chief Inspector Armand Gamache series. Most books take place in and around Montreal and her exquisite writing makes me want to jump on a plane and visit, even in the dead of winter!

That's it. Kate's still a monster of a mother and while it looks like TLC is done with her, I'm afraid I still think she's Teflon and will be on TV in some way for a long time.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Jane (#116), thanks for that palate cleanser!
I haven't seen "Hidden Figures" yet, but very much want to.

Not political -- I promise! But the Bush daughters just sent the Obama daughters
a note to wish them well. They lived through the same childhood of growing up in the public eye. The Bush girls said something like, you were put in a position you never asked to be in. And of course it reminded me of the G children. But TFW only portrays her kids' lives as rainbows and unicorns (*waves to our poster*), golden platters,
and once-in-a-lifetime memories. Even with C's situation as dire as it is, she not only hasn't slowed her pace, but has doubled-down on the family fun-fun-fun.

Jane said...

Saw that note from the Bush sisters! Such a thoughtful and beautifully written sentiment. Classy.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Oh, and Jane (#117), let me help you out here. I think what you meant to say was,
"I'd move to Montreal in a literal heartbeat!
I LOVE MONTREAL!!!" You'll never get a free trip unless you really sell it. You're welcome!;)

GollyGee said...

Flimsy, it was Nana Janet who TFW made such ugly fun of.

When they showed the circus party clip, I was thinking are they going to show her making fun of her? They didn't. Even though the show was in its infancy, when TFW said what she said, it was closed captioned so you know exactly what she said.

She was accidentally caught on film saying this. She wasn't even looking at the camera. But what I find very telling is that closed captioning was used to show what she said.

It was mean and cruel. You talk like that about a elderly lady who is coming to your house everyday and folding your laundry and loving you children like her own grandkids?

It just shows the depth of ungratitude and no class this mentally ill woman has pulsating in her entire, according to Gladys, rockin' body.

GollyGee said...

I took the big move to Texas as finding a rich oil baron or an owner of a sports team or a coach, even.


Leslie said...

But the Bush daughters just sent the Obama daughters
a note to wish them well.
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They sent them a letter to when the Obama's moved into the White House.

GollyGee said...

Jon posted a beautiful picture on Instagram of his dad of the 12th anniversary of his father, Dr. Gosselin's death.

Couldn't do the link, but here is what he posted. I think it is beautiful.


jongosselin1 Today marks the 12 year anniversary since my father passed!!! Miss him every day!!! Please remember to take care of yourselves and try and be healthy!!! I wish he could've been a part of my little kids lives, Mady and Cara were Poppy's girls and they got to enjoy this amazing person!!! Love you Dad!!!

If this doesn't move Mady and Cara to go to see their dad or even call or text him, then nothing will.



InsanityReigns said...

GollyGee said... 122
I took the big move to Texas as finding a rich oil baron or an owner of a sports team or a coach, even.
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Well, reportedly she went to nursing school so she could meet a doctor. But none of them wanted anything to do with her.

Sad but true said...

Jane said... 117

Louise Penny is one of my all-time faves. It is my dream to live around the corner from a bistro like that. :)

Sad but true said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 120
Oh, and Jane (#117), let me help you out here. I think what you meant to say was,
"I'd move to Montreal in a literal heartbeat!
I LOVE MONTREAL!!!" You'll never get a free trip unless you really sell it. You're welcome!;)
____
LMAO, K8 does always sound like she's got her hand out, doesn't she?

Tucker's Mom said...


The kids look fine. Not underweight, not starving, not malnourished. They are not big-boned kids, and appear just about the right height and weight for their ages. Honest.
****
Collin just looked 'drawn', if you get what I'm saying. No, not skinny, but whatever the opposite of robust is.
That said, Kate had better give up her tight-fisted control of food with 3 teenage boys.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate's comment about moving to Texas in a "literal heartbeat" is shocking to the senses. No, not shocking for Kate, but shocking nonetheless.
How can any mother blather on like that-like a giddy high school girl-when she's got a 12-year old son who hasn't slept in his own bed in 8 months?
How can she act so excited and whimsical when Collin is gone?
I don't think she really misses him.
Any parent worth their salt wouldn't even entertain the idea of moving on until they got their child back home!
I mean, sh*t! Unless Collin is some sort of Damian from The Omen, willing his siblings off Mr. Deckster with his demonic stare, I don't get why there seems to be no anticipation of, or longing for, his return.

Jane said...

Sad but true said... 126
Jane said... 117

Louise Penny is one of my all-time faves. It is my dream to live around the corner from a bistro like that. :)
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I'd be right there with you!

Terri said...

I watched this last episode out of curiosity more than anything. The one thing that stuck out to me was the way she had that bird clinging to her, while Collin say mere inches from her and was pretty much ignored by her. The one she should have been clinging to and showing extra attention to was that child. She is a total failure as a mother.

Tucker's Mom said...

jongosselin1 Today marks the 12 year anniversary since my father passed!!! Miss him every day!!! Please remember to take care of yourselves and try and be healthy!!! I wish he could've been a part of my little kids lives, Mady and Cara were Poppy's girls and they got to enjoy this amazing person!!! Love you Dad!!!

If this doesn't move Mady and Cara to go to see their dad or even call or text him, then nothing will.
*****
It might be years before the twins come around and begin to understand what happened to them. I would hope that they can stop the horrible cycle of cutting family out of their lives, that their mother started.
I hope all the kids get to connect to their maternal grandparents while they are still on this earth.

Tucker's Mom said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 118
Jane (#116), thanks for that palate cleanser!
I haven't seen "Hidden Figures" yet, but very much want to.

Not political -- I promise! But the Bush daughters just sent the Obama daughters
*****
Now there's a set of classy, intelligent and beautiful inside and out twin women who have lived part of their lives in the public eye, under much scrutiny, and are somehow better for it.
I dare say, whatever you think of the Bushes, they are a tight-knit family that openly and unabashedly love each other above all else.

TLC stinks said...

Got half way through the game show episode. Boring and will not finish. Very upset over Collin and Mady was a bitch.

Tucker's Mom said...

Jane said... 117
OT Stuff

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Thank you for posting about your reading endeavors. I really want to see "Hidden Figures".
Yep, "Teflon" Kate...ugh.

Mel said...

When TFW was telling the kids that the winners got to choose that night's supper...

She says, "I'm supposed to say..." then caught herself and then stumbles over the rest of her lines.

Busted.

Tucker's Mom said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 116
Who remembers when poor Aunt Janet mounted the pony at the tups' 3rd birthday carnival party, and TFW said something like, "Poor horse!" Where was her lecture?
January 13, 2017 at 6:31 AM
*****
It was cruel, but an easy slip of the tongue for someone like Kate.
Kate, you should have used your filter! How about, "You're gonna need a bigger pony"?

Tucker's Mom said...

Hi Paper Plates!!

jamesvader1194 said...

@Tucker's Mom (132)You know that makes me wonder.Apart from Jon,i wonder what sort of stuff Kate said about the other family members to the kids.I hope to God Kate never said anything negative about Jon's father that would effect how the twins use to think of him.But i wouldn't be shocked if Kate told the twins about how they're all liars and they never loved them.Like beth for example i feel Kate would tell them about how she wrote the book because she "loves" her kids so much and that beth had little to do with the book.

Brace yourself said...

Jeanne said... 109
Kate LOVES TEXAS!!!! I guess that's the next trip for filming. They could visit San Antonio and say dumb things about the Alamo. They could visit Austin and Kate could freak out over the bats under the bridge.
___________

Here's an idea of how to get the Gkids off TV and keep Kate on. TLC could do a show similar to "Idiot Abroad." Send Kate out and let her pontificate on historical monuments, history of the area, etc. Would be a laugh riot.

Sad but true said...

Oh Lord.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 3m3 minutes ago
The strongest are not those who win battles in public, but those who fight & win battles we never hear about. ❤️ #KEEPGOING >> @Kateplusmy8

According to Doofus, it seems all K8 DOES is fight. Which pretty much matches her typical demeanor on camera.

SaraMRN2010 said...

jamesvader1194 said... 139
@Tucker's Mom (132)You know that makes me wonder.Apart from Jon,i wonder what sort of stuff Kate said about the other family members to the kids.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Considering she put the twins Christmas ornaments from poppy in her garage sale to sale nothing surprises me about TFW!!!!!!!! I remember Mady being very upset about it.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Terri (#131), yes, the attention and affection TFW freely lavishes upon her bird and her dogs seems to have been out of reach to her young, troubled son. She has a cruel streak a mile wide.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

SaraMRN2010 (#142), c'mon, now, you couldn't have expected TFW to keep things that dropped "dustilies" (her word) on her pristine floors! Even if it was only one a year at Christmas!

Apparently 3 giant shedding shepherds are clean enough for TFW, but a precious memento from her daughters' deceased grandfather wasn't. She's a horrible mother.

jamesvader1194 said...

@sad but true Is she referring to the whole custody thing?Which no one knows the out come of.If she's not then i have no idea what private "battle" she's talking about.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#141), so according to Gladys, TFW was not such a brave soldier with the
C situation, because she blabbed it to the freaking planet. And collected a paycheck for making that very private battle public. Another hoof in mouth comment from Gladys. Oh, and she's back to peering
over the fence to ask what's for dinner.
She must be giddy about TFW's new accessibility.

Layla said...

Kate obviously hates living in PA. Jon is there, her family is there, all the people she has trampled on and discarded over the years are there. Plus she hates the cold winters. Remember when she was on the RV trip and said she asks herself every day why she lives in PA? "If you've seen one farm, you've seen them all". Another time she said she's a "CA girl at heart", and she has called NYC her second home. She seems to think she's above her surroundings in rural PA, especially living in "ghettoville". Anyone else remember reading in Robert's book about how she wouldn't drive through Wernersvile? She'd take another route to go through a more affluent area.

I still wonder about the stories of her buying a condo close to where I live. It's an affluent area, which would appeal to her, plus it's close to Steve's house, Discovery HQ, and Whole Foods. She'd be in heaven. But I don't think she did. News travels fast around here. If she was hanging around, people would know. Other than a few WF sightings over the years (which coincide with her trips to Discovery) there is no news of her.
She can't take the kids and leave PA right now, most likely, but she may uproot and leave once the kids are grown.

Kate's Fetid Soul said...

SaraMRN2010 said... 142
jamesvader1194 said... 139
@Tucker's Mom (132)You know that makes me wonder.Apart from Jon,i wonder what sort of stuff Kate said about the other family members to the kids.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Considering she put the twins Christmas ornaments from poppy in her garage sale to sale nothing surprises me about TFW!!!!!!!! I remember Mady being very upset about it.

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Wow. That shows a lack of sympathy, care, connection, respect, or compassion towards her in laws, her husband, and her children.

Sadly, somehow, Kate is supposed to raise 8 simpathetic,
caring, respecting, or compassionate human beings.

This would make a good case study for anyone out there-
is it nature or nurture that makes human beings sympathetic/ empathetic towards others?

Or in Gosselin 8's case, will they do better being raised by a pack of dogs?

Kate's Fetid Soul said...

Sad but true said... 141
Oh Lord.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 3m3 minutes ago
The strongest are not those who win battles in public, but those who fight & win battles we never hear about. ❤️ #KEEPGOING >> @Kateplusmy8

According to Doofus, it seems all K8 DOES is fight. Which pretty much matches her typical demeanor on camera.

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Oh brother! When Kate has a Colonoscopy, they are going to find Milo in her large intestine...

Kate's Fetid Soul said...

Brace yourself said... 140
Jeanne said... 109
Kate LOVES TEXAS!!!! I guess that's the next trip for filming. They could visit San Antonio and say dumb things about the Alamo. They could visit Austin and Kate could freak out over the bats under the bridge.
___________

Here's an idea of how to get the Gkids off TV and keep Kate on. TLC could do a show similar to "Idiot Abroad." Send Kate out and let her pontificate on historical monuments, history of the area, etc. Would be a laugh riot.

***********************************************************

That is a WONDERFUL idea. No kids being exploited!

How long do you think that series is going to last?...

Kate's Fetid Soul said...

Tucker's Mom said... 137
FlimsyFlamsy said... 116
Who remembers when poor Aunt Janet mounted the pony at the tups' 3rd birthday carnival party, and TFW said something like, "Poor horse!" Where was her lecture?
January 13, 2017 at 6:31 AM
*****
It was cruel, but an easy slip of the tongue for someone like Kate.
Kate, you should have used your filter! How about, "You're gonna need a bigger pony"?

*************************************************************

How about Kate being concerned that Janet might get hurt, or Kate saying something sweet about Janet etc...

Talk about no good deed going unpunished.

Kate's Fetid Soul said...

Tucker's Mom said... 133
FlimsyFlamsy said... 118
Jane (#116), thanks for that palate cleanser!
I haven't seen "Hidden Figures" yet, but very much want to.

Not political -- I promise! But the Bush daughters just sent the Obama daughters
*****
Now there's a set of classy, intelligent and beautiful inside and out twin women who have lived part of their lives in the public eye, under much scrutiny, and are somehow better for it.
I dare say, whatever you think of the Bushes, they are a tight-knit family that openly and unabashedly love each other above all else.

*************************************************************

Their letter to Obama's beautiful daughter's was touching- absolutely lovely, sympathetic/ empathetic and caring.

It is evident that families know the importance of being a good example for your children- and raising your children properly. With grace, love, care, respect, and patience.

I love it!

Tucker's Mom said...

Here's an idea of how to get the Gkids off TV and keep Kate on. TLC could do a show similar to "Idiot Abroad." Send Kate out and let her pontificate on historical monuments, history of the area, etc. Would be a laugh riot.
*****
Seriously, this is PERFECT! I doubt Kate would have moments of utter hilarity like Karl Pilkington, but I'd pay to see Kate pee in a hole in the ground or eat frogs.

Brace yourself said...

Kate's Fetid Soul said... 150
That is a WONDERFUL idea. No kids being exploited!

How long do you think that series is going to last?...
**********************

Until her passport gets stamped "Too Stupid to Travel?"

Can't you see her screeching down the Grand Canal, her wails echoing off those ancient walls? Venice would never be the same. And chomping gum as she clomps through the ruins in Rome asking why no one's cleaned up the mess?

She'd make an idiot abroad look like a genius.

Brace yourself said...

Tucker's Mom said... 153
Seriously, this is PERFECT! I doubt Kate would have moments of utter hilarity like Karl Pilkington, but I'd pay to see Kate pee in a hole in the ground or eat frogs.
************

Yes, eating a frog!! She could insult cultures throughout the world.

TLC stinks said...

Layla, maybe Steve or his company bought the condo. Why would she shop at Whole Foods in MD if staying in a hotel?

Tucker's Mom said...

TLC stinks said... 156
Layla, maybe Steve or his company bought the condo. Why would she shop at Whole Foods in MD if staying in a hotel?
****
She could shop before she headed home. It's not that far.
I personally don't think Kate bought but you never know.
I always wondered where she went when Jon had compound time with the kids, and no pap could ever find her.

Rainbirdie said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 3m3 minutes ago
The strongest are not those who win battles in public, but those who fight & win battles we never hear about.
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Did Milo make this one up on her own? What does it even mean? Why would a private battle make a person stronger than a public battle? Does one have to actually win to become stronger? Is Milo really just trying to tell Kate to shut up? I just can't with the inspirational platitudes.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

MsGoody2Shoes21_ ‏@MsGoody2Shoes33 5h5 hours ago
@ConcernedChick @Michael42106057 @Kateplusmy8 How do you know what's going on in Kate's house? Are you her confidant?

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LOL!! Probably not, but Milo professes to be. How can these people tweet this stuff and keep a straight face?

Kate's Fetid Soul said...

Layla said... 147
Kate obviously hates living in PA. Jon is there, her family is there, all the people she has trampled on and discarded over the years are there. Plus she hates the cold winters. Remember when she was on the RV trip and said she asks herself every day why she lives in PA? "If you've seen one farm, you've seen them all". Another time she said she's a "CA girl at heart", and she has called NYC her second home. She seems to think she's above her surroundings in rural PA, especially living in "ghettoville". Anyone else remember reading in Robert's book about how she wouldn't drive through Wernersvile? She'd take another route to go through a more affluent area.

I still wonder about the stories of her buying a condo close to where I live. It's an affluent area, which would appeal to her, plus it's close to Steve's house, Discovery HQ, and Whole Foods. She'd be in heaven. But I don't think she did. News travels fast around here. If she was hanging around, people would know. Other than a few WF sightings over the years (which coincide with her trips to Discovery) there is no news of her.
She can't take the kids and leave PA right now, most likely, but she may uproot and leave once the kids are grown.

************************************************************

She really pisses me off for many obvious reasons.
One reason is her damn lack of gratitude.

Kate acts like she's royalty.
I don't even think royalty behaves like she does.

jamesvader1194 said...

@Rainbirdie Could it be possible that Kate private message milo saying she won the whole custody thing and that tweet is milo hinting at people that Kate won?If not its just an odd and random thing to tweet cause i can't think of what other battle Kate is fighting privately.

Over In TFW's County said...

She could shop before she headed home. It's not that far.

+++++++++

Well, yes, that makes sense. If she's that close to Whole Foods, you stock up before you go home rather than have to drive an hour from your house to Wayne once you get home.

Over In TFW's County said...

Did Milo make this one up on her own? What does it even mean? Why would a private battle make a person stronger than a public battle? Does one have to actually win to become stronger? Is Milo really just trying to tell Kate to shut up? I just can't with the inspirational platitudes.

+++++++++++++++

Way back in school, we called this stuff "gobbledygook." It sounds impressive, but it means nothing.

Tucker's Mom said...

Way back in school, we called this stuff "gobbledygook." It sounds impressive, but it means nothing.
******
Yup. Word salad.

SarahK said...

Joleen ‏@quiksilver30 3h3 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 is she named after sans dog in the list boys? 😬

Interpreter?

SarahK said...

I've been trying to play catch-up on these posts and read the comment from someone who refused to call Kate "Kate" because it's Katie on her birth certificate, saying that she became Kate because it rhymes with eight.

Mady's middle name is Kate, not Katie. She was born before Kate Plus Eight was conceived (pun intended) and the younger kids hadn't yet been born. I would think, then, that Kate was known as Kate even before the twins were born.

SaraMRN2010 said...

SarahK said... 165
Joleen ‏@quiksilver30 3h3 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 is she named after sans dog in the list boys? 😬>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I think they meant to write Lost boys. Sam's dog in the movie was named Nanook.

Former Lurker said...

SarahK said... 165
Joleen ‏@quiksilver30 3h3 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 is she named after sans dog in the list boys? 😬

Interpreter?

&&&&&&&&

Heaven help me that I can decipher sheeple typos. Based on that tweet, I figured "sans dog" meant "Sam's dog" and "the list boys" is supposed to be "The Lost Boys" movie. I never saw that movie, so I Googled it and got this:

http://lostboys.wikia.com/wiki/Sam_Emerson

Sam Emerson is the youngest son of divorcée Lucy Emerson. Sam grew up in Phoenix, Arizona with his older brother Michael, where they lived until the divorce of their parents. Sam and Michael moved with Lucy to the coastal community of Santa Carla, California to live with their Grandpa because they were flat broke.

Early life
Little is known about Sam before his move to Santa Carla, only that he was a fan of comics (except horror based) and he was looking out for a Batman #14 comic, one of the only four in existence. He also owned an Alaskan Malamute named Nanook.

NJGal51 said...

TFW may hate living in PA but she would not be able to afford the lifestyle, house, land, etc. that she used to in CA or NY. In fact there are many places that she'd probably love to live that would be out of her price range unless she downsized big time and I don't see that happening any time soon. Although, once the twins graduate I could see her downsizing and putting the remaining tups in a less expensive school.

Rainbirdie said...

jamesvader1194 said... 161
@Rainbirdie Could it be possible that Kate private message milo saying she won the whole custody thing and that tweet is milo hinting at people that Kate won?If not its just an odd and random thing to tweet cause i can't think of what other battle Kate is fighting privately.
----
Nah. If that was the case, Milo would be sharing more than a crappy pseudo-inspirational tweet. She wouldn't be able to resist letting everyone know that Kate was communicating with her privately.

Rainbirdie said...

SarahK said... 165
Joleen ‏@quiksilver30 3h3 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 is she named after sans dog in the list boys? 😬

Interpreter?
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"Is she named after Sam's dog in the Lost Boys?" Alternate guess "I know you won't bother to answer me so I will ask a random question & not bother to proofread it".

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I don't believe for a second that TFW communicates with Gladys privately. Look how Gladys jumps like an excited puppy every time TFW shows up on social media.
The other night she felt left out that everyone was posting about their dogs and she didn't get to be a part of it. She tries to insert herself into conversations that involve Deanna or Jamie, and have nothing to do with her. And she almost always puts a question in her tweets, hoping for a personal response. If she had TFW's attention via other means, I don't think she'd be so desperately invested in their social media relationship.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

If not its just an odd and random thing to tweet cause i can't think of what other battle Kate is fighting privately.

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Milo's MO is tweeting strange and random platitudes. Nothing new there. I don't believe for one minute that Kate shared anything with blabbermouth Gladys, especially something as sensitive as a custody issue.

Kate should be battling the demons within.

Lynne In RI said...

Flimsy (172): "I don't believe for a second that TFW communicates with Gladys privately."

)))))))))

That makes two of us. Gladys really is a poor soul, and if she weren't so incredibly nosy and annoying, I'd feel sorry for her. She's pathetic.

With all of the celebrities out there, I wonder why it is Kate who is the object of her lust and desires. What does Kate have that Milo needs?

Layla said...

TLC Stinks (156),

She has been spotted a few times at the Whole Foods in Silver Spring (MD). I think the closest WF to her house in PA is a fairly long drive, so she probably stops in to the store when she's here for meetings at Discovery HQ, which is also in Silver Spring.

Layla said...

Milo might have been tweeting about the situation with Collin, but who knows? She thinks Kate fights this mighty, heroic struggle every single day. If I were one of Kate's kids, I would be irritated to know that my mother thinks it's a huge burden to raise me.

My friend Mary has 13 kids. Yeah, 13--I counted. And she acts like it's no big deal. In fact, she seems to really enjoy her kids and spending time with them and doing things with them. She has inspired so many of the things I do with my own kids. And she doesn't need any butt-kisser to tweet her daily praise and platitudes to get by.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

With all of the celebrities out there, I wonder why it is Kate who is the object of her lust and desires. What does Kate have that Milo needs?

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Steve?

Paper Plates and Paper Towels Forever-really pisses me off said...

Lynne In RI said... 174
What Kate has that Milo needs....They are both incredibly insecure people and Milo knows that. So she feels comfortable fawning over a very insecure woman who responds to constant stroking and adulation.

Paper Plates and Paper Towels Forever-really pisses me off said...

Kate's Fetid Soul said... 160
She really pisses me off for many obvious reasons.
One reason is her damn lack of gratitude.

This is the #1 reason I can't stand that woman. She came from nowhere. An average person. But television came a callin and she jumped on board and became arrogant. The plastic surgeries, enhancements, entitlement syndrome and vanity seeped into her veins and now she considers herself a celebrity and wants the world to understand that and treat her as such. There is no humility with this witch. She thinks she is a TV star. She sits on that couch with zero humility. I can't think of anyone on TV that I feel such contempt for. Please enlighten me if there is another a__hole out there on TV that I can compare my feelings with regarding Kate.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Layla (#176), your friend sounds like a lovely woman. And she probably doesn't need a parade thrown in her honor for parenting the children she decided to have.

TFW is lucky enough to have 8 kids (well, 7 now) who all go to the same school. I've known moms with only 3 or 4 kids who have to schlep back and forth between 3 different schools -- not to mention after-school activities all over town. TFW doesn't even have to drive to the school -- just the bus stop. And she can even come home and
go back to sleep (which she's admitted), because she has no steady job. But she's always SO busy and SO exhausted and SO happy to put her head on her pillow at night. Again, how can an average, "mediocre" mom relate?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Paper Plates (#179), I share your distaste for TFW's lack of gratitude. Whenever she says how blessed she is, it rings hollow, because her behavior shows otherwise.
Who can forget her trying to score a free boob job along with the tummy tuck?

And when she tries to sound like she's just a regular mom like the fans, it sounds utterly disingenuous -- especially since she accused the father of her children of being mediocre as if it was some sort of disease.
The world turns because of everyday people doing everyday jobs. Will all her golden-platter children have to have glamorous careers to stay in her good graces? To have value to society in her eyes?

Leslie said...

I always wondered where she went when Jon had compound time with the kids, and no pap could ever find her.
=====
I think Kate exited out of the back of her house and then took the back or side roads. Maybe she drove something like the little utility vehicle to do so and then met somebody to drive her to wherever she was staying. I think she probably stayed in a motel.

Or better yet, she may have stayed in the apartment. Either of these guesses would have her avoiding the paps.

just wondering said...

This is the #1 reason I can't stand that woman. She came from nowhere. An average person. But television came a callin and she jumped on board and became arrogant.
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Television didn't come calling. It's the other way around.
Jon & Kate (plus8) shopped all of their home movies to every outlet. (This was on Jon's old jongosselin6 page. It's now scrubbed. I used to use the 'way back' engine to copy and paste his posts,)

Kate was always this way, even as a teen according to her ex boyfriend (not to mention the first baby she so easilly conceived & aborted)

Discovery bit on their show proposal and she was off to her dream. She had those kids to get a TV show; she didn't have them with any thought as to how to parent them. Her entire focus was TV and money. Jon & the kids were merely her delivery device. She got what she wanted and if the show is finally (sigh) over, then the kids may be of no further use to her. Time will tell.

But, as every narcissist, the kids are a reflection of her. Since Colin wasn't reflecting properly, well, something needed to be done.

Yes she will eat her young if they do not flatter her self image. Mady is just like her & is a comforting reflection. If she can't get a bite on another show that includes the kids, then Jon just may get them because they will be of no further use to her.
(It's all about getting into the mindset of a narc, & I don't like staying in that space for very long.)

Sorry, this was longer than I thought it would be...

NJGal51 said...

https://instagram.com/p/BPLmKqrBFbK/
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Likes Out Man alert! Milo posted a picture of her (alleged) husband. I guess she's been reading the convos here about how she always wants TFW to post family pictures but how she never posts any. She also posted a picture of some random house across a lake.

TLC stinks said...

She has a lack of gratitude because she thinks what she has was owed to her (prosperity gospel).

What I dislike about her is forcing the kids to film for HER benefit. From Day One, she plotted and conceived the plan to have multiples and USE them to grift and make money. The result of her mental illness and lack of parenting is family dysfunction like Lord of the Flies. Maybe she allows the bad behavior for filming; I don't know. But it looks bad for sure and the impression left is not positive for her or the kids.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

TLC stinks (#185), and even as the kids have grown and changed, and their individual interests, needs and preferences have become much clearer, TFW is still the sheriff, and still demanding all 7 of them film. And sadly, I suspect some of them have no clue what their specific interests or preferences are, as they've been tamped down or eliminated by their mother's toxic, all-consuming desire for fame and fortune.

That little exchange someone wrote about with TFW commenting on C's expression as she was going to scold him? Good lord, if those children are expected to monitor not only their actions but the freaking looks on their faces, I'm surprised only one of them has had to be removed from the home for additional help. My heart breaks for that
poor boy.

Kate's Fetid Soul said...

Sheepless In Seattle said... 177
With all of the celebrities out there, I wonder why it is Kate who is the object of her lust and desires. What does Kate have that Milo needs?

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Steve?

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Skin (ala Silence of the Lambs)?


oooooooh, creepy...

Kate's Fetid Soul said...

Disregard my previous statement. That was mean.

Anyway, I think that Milo is what you would call a "smother-er"-
She smothers people to the point of suffocation. Then, they have to move (in the middle of the night) to get away from her.

TLC stinks said...

Funny you mention about Collin getting warned about his expression. On Game Night, Alexis continually had an obnoxious scowl /pout on her face when things did not go her way and Kate said she "loved" that look. Anyway, it just goes to show how much she disliked Collinand he was on her shit list.

Again, I have to bring up Macy's behavior. There was apparent editing of cutting out Mady yelling at Kate. As a parent, I have to wonder what the parents of the girl who is their friend (who goes on the trips) thinks about the friendship. Obviously, Mady calls the shots in that three-way just as she steamrolls over Cara. Not a healthy thing to allow your child to be in a bullying relationship, and that is exactly what it is. Those parents must be star struck by allowing their daughter to be occasionally on TV even if she is nothing more than background filler. Telling that this girl is their only friend.

Formerly Duped said...

If you want to see an example of how the girls treat their brothers, watch Abracadabra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HDOul2y85c where the boys put on a magic show for the family. TFW acts like she can't control how mean the girls will be and has no say in their behavior which was disgusting.Mocking, rude, throwing things, insulting.

TLC stinks said...

LOL. Milo's made-up family. Keep posting them, Milo.

TLC stinks said...

I did not get the impression from Milo that Kate won her battle with Jon, more like it is ongoing. I cannot see how she could possibly win when everything you need to know is aired in regards to Collin and the kids. I think Jon has a strong custody case, particularly if Collin is talking to the counselors.

Jamesvader1194 said...

@TLC stinks It might of been just me then.I don't know,the tweet felt like Milo knew of some private battle that Kate won and only she knew about it.Then again its milo,for all we know she thinks Kate parenting her kids is a war zone for Kate.

Formerly Duped said...

TLC stinks, I give Alexis a break sometimes. She seems actually fond of the animals and is interested in things like the landscaping they did and thanked the man who helped them. She was last pick for this game night and is always put with Kate for activities. Her tup sisters make it clear they dislike her and "mean girl" her out of their relationship both physically and by distancing themselves or saying inappropriate things about her, like she's an animal or crazy. Alexis well could still have issues which caused her to be expelled from K, but she just seems to me to be a loner in that family, a little immature and very different in interests from L and H. And talking about looks, H often gives her a look of disdain Kate does nothing about.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Formerly Duped (#194), I've always had a soft spot for A, too. WIth C gone, the boy tups A & J have each other. The girl tups H & L have each other. And of course the twins have each other. Poor A seems disenfranchised to me. I haven't watched the show for years -- just going by comments about the episodes here.

Anonymous said...

TLC Stinks (189)

And of course if Collin were to be so open about his emotions, Kate would get on him about it. She wouldn't have been so reassuring with him like she was with Alexis.

I think Collin bottles up his emotions all at once and then let's them all out when he's about had it. I also wouldn't be surprised if Collin told Kate about herself a few times haha. Joel and Aaden seem more on the "calm" side but who knows.

-LA

TLC stinks said...

I don't think Milo knows anything other than what has been made public. She is just supporting Kate, guessing she "will" win her battle with Jon. I cannot imagine Kate sharing her personal info with Milo but I do see it with someone like pumpkinbottom.

TLC stinks said...

It's bad enough when you are an outcast at school but in your own home? Terrible. Poor Alexis.

Anonymous said...

Alexis tends to gravitate more towards the boys anyway from what I've noticed.

-LA

Tucker's Mom said...

miloandjack2016So #LitesOutMan is waiting for you to acknowledge his heroics? You @kateplusmy8 fed one of these...he wrestled one!! 😋 Feed his ego! LOL
^^^^
Wow, sad. Milo is baiting Kate with LOM man handling an alligator. Don't even get me started with these alligator attractions that she and Kate seem to love so much.

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