Wednesday, January 4, 2017

Discussion Thread: Sweet 16 1/3/2017

Sweet 16
It's the twins sweet 16! Kate allows Mady and Cara to plan their own party and tensions run high. Kate finds the moment bittersweet, while the twins are just happy to be with their friends.

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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


In other celeb news, Omarosa (The Apprentice "stah") got a position in Trump's administration.
No politics here. Just saying that someone who worked her 15-minutes of reality tv fame (through Trump's show) managed to find a job in the White House.


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She worked for the Bushes too, I think.

Omarosa was in the reality show business to advance her own self interests. She had bigger and better plans for herself ahead, and she knew how to make the most of every opportunity.

She really is a great example of how when you get an opportunity for a reality show, the world is your oyster. But you have to hustle for it. It won't just "happen." Dickering around in the kitchen does not a cooking show make or anything else along those lines.

I don't much like her, but I can't question her work ethic or ability to go-get.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

So the "driving" was just part of a storyline for the show. It's kind of sad that the kids have no desire to get their license

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Kids these days don't seem to want to drive. The prevailing theory seems to be because they are SOOO connected to their friends via text and social media, the desire to get into a car and go see them isn't as strong. In our day (lol) that was one of the only ways we could really communicate easily with your friends, by actually seeing them in person.

And yes I believe many 16 year olds are drinking BEHIND THEIR PARENTS' BACKS. I do NOT believe most, many, or even a fraction of parents supply them with the alcohol. We'll take your kids away for that AND you could go to jail, and most parents aren't idiots let alone would mess with other people's kids.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


When will the children realize their dear friends, Ronnie, Steve, Deanna, are their friends because they make money off them or their mother? Too bad actual family couldn't be there.

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That worries me. That's not to say you can't develop sincere relationships with your staff, but, when you're a celeb, many are just in it for the next step up and aren't really into you for YOU. You have to be careful, and Kate has proven time and time again to have absolutely no judgement. I don't think she could tell the difference between a real friendship and a hanger-on, when her kids need her to teach them those skills. I have no idea what this guy's motives are, but even if his friendship IS sincere, he doesn't even live in town. It's not a realistic friendship.

You're right, the kids will get burned one day, and the awakening will be a rude one.

NJGal51 said...

I never had the desire to drive when I was a teen. My hometown is 1square mile and everything was accessibly by bike and the other beach towns were just a walk down the boardwalk. I went to school and worked in NY and took the bus every day and took public transportation around the city. I learned to drive when I was married And living in Germany. Maybe that's why I tend to have a bit of a lead foot.

I posted this on the other thread right Admin closed it to comments so I'm bringing it over for those interested in the Church Ladies soap opera....

@PattyParsonsPat: Ben setting hear squalling all day Hope Alice diagnosed with dwarfism she won't ever grow big

Former Lurker said...

From the last thread:

Susie Cincinnati said... 176

Thanks for your reply, Former. Carrie Ann said that Kate has no self-awareness. Is this true of most narcissists? In the toy store episode, Kate said that she doesn't see other people. Is that because she's concerned only about herself, or because she's socially awkward?
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Hi Susie. I think TFW said she doesn't see other people because, as a narcissist, she only sees others as objects. She truly cares only about herself and is concerned with others solely in regard to what they can do for her.

As far as having no self-awareness, maybe that's due to the fact that she can't understand how other people perceive her. That's because narcissists have no empathy, so they truly don't understand another person's point of view, nor do they care to understand it.

Over In TFW's County said...

Tabitha Wagner ‏@xtabbyx19x 5m5 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 how can I get ahold of sweet surprises? I tried googling them and cant find them. I live in pa\

Good grief. It's in West Reading and they have a website. It's right there! How needy are these people?

Former Lurker said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 1

She worked for the Bushes too, I think.

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I heard she worked in the Clinton White House, not for Bush.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin, thanks for the new post! The comments have been fast and furious, I didn't even notice there hadn't been a new one.

I wonder if at least some of the kids have their guard up with any new people in their lives. They've lost so many aunts, uncles and cousins over the years. Heck, their own dad has been excommunicated, and their brother has been gone for more than 6 month. So it might be easier to keep these folks Mom brings into their lives at arm's length, rather than getting attached and then getting hurt. Total speculation on my part, but I can't imagine their past experiences won't impact their current and future relationships.

CC said...

I can understand not having a desire to drive if you live in an area with sidewalks and/or public transportation, or can ride your bike to stores etc.

But the Gosselins live in an isolated area.

Yeah I think maybe texting and FaceTime make it easier for kids to virtually hang out, but once they are old enough to want to drive it need to drive, then they won't know how.

Susan1956 said...

I wonder if one of the reasons Kate was so fixated on making the twins' party perfect was because TLC didn't buy the twins a car(s). As a producer, I'm sure she pitched the idea.

JoyinVirginia said...

Bringing over from prior thread:
Maksim Chmerkovskiy and Peta Murgatroyd have a baby boy! They are being congratulated by many family and friends, including the wonderful Saint Tony of the Ballroom. (For anyone who doesn't recall, Tony was granted sainthood after he pushed Shopping Cart TFW around the ballroom and tried valiantly to get her lazy ass to practice - and after all that he still didn't strangle her! A true saint!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Gee, I'm older than you are and we somehow managed to communicate via that old-fashioned gadget known as the telephone.

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I didn't say we couldn't communicate. I said it's easier nowadays. For everyone. A rotary telephone is shared by the whole family. It's rude to tie it up and few parents would let us do so. It's also dependent on the other party being near the phone. It can sometimes take half a day or more to reach someone. Not anymore unless the person is purposely not responding for whatever reason. If they're not home in the old days they miss the call. There's no dispute smartphones and social media have made it ten times easier to keep in touch instantly without displacing anyone else. Why argue this point? The question is does this explain why kids don't want to drive, because their need for instant and intense contact with peers is being very fulfilled by modern communication? Maybe, it's merely a theory.

jamezvader1194 said...

@Admin And sadly Kate's fans don't see the damage in that.I don't see how the fans don't see a problem with Kate having no connection with any relatives and no Kate fans im not going to believe Kate because her word is not proof.Especially when Kate has been caught lying so many times.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Susan1956 (#10), I wouldn't be surprised if TFW pitched a mother/daughters trip to France for their birthday! A car would just be for the girls -- what the heck fun would that be for the poor soul who's been raising them alllllll alone?!

TLC stinks said...

From my experience with 16 year olds, the reason for not wanting to get a license now is simply because they lead a restricted life. My kids wanted their licenses as soon as possible because they had school activities (like band or sports) and part-time jobs after school. They shared a used vehicle with no issue because it was no longer thought it cool to ride a school bus. They had cell phones and computers but would meet friends after school to eat out or hang. The twins have little social life apparently.

Tucker's Mom said...

Hmmm, Omarosa worked for Al Gore and Bill Clinton.
Kate doesn't have one iota of the intelligence, presence and composure that it would take to hold a position in the White House.
But who knows, maybe the idea of Kate working with Trump is floating around out there, like her teaming up with Michelle Obama ;-)

Tucker's Mom said...


I didn't say we couldn't communicate. I said it's easier nowadays. For everyone. A rotary telephone is shared by the whole family. It's rude to tie it up and few parents would let us do so.
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OMG, those were the days! I was never allowed to gab and gab on the phone, and those damn cords-you couldn't have any privacy.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

And sadly Kate's fans don't see the damage in that.I don't see how the fans don't see a problem with Kate having no connection with any relatives

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Do they concede that she does't have a relationship with them? I thought that they were under the belief that Kate sees her parents but is protecting their privacy. In the case of her siblings, fans would side with Kate, especially since Kevin and Jodi testified in the child labor law hearings about the need for new laws to protect those involved in the filming of all kids in PA. They became the enemy, according to the fans. Why would Kate have a relationship with them when they (according to the fans) threw Kate under the bus?

Sad but true said...

Oh that Mady is just so funny! A new IG post, photo of dog hair on vehicle upholstery. She (Mady) captioned it "A contemporary art piece I call '5 minutes w/nan.'" Aren't you doubled over with the giggles?

Nice that Kate can afford to send two dogs (or did Shoka go, too?) to the groomers for their own spa days. All Gosselins MUST have spa days, I'm sure it's even in the puppies' contracts.

kateplusmy8 This made me laugh SO hard! I had just picked the kids up at the bus stop ..then we all headed to the groomer to pick the puppies up too! Mady obviously got a (hairy) loving greeting from Nanuq! They are always extra happy to see us after a spa/play day! ❤️ #LoveThemAll #SoBlessed

Sad but true said...

Of course Milo can't leave it alone. She just happened to have posted her own IG photo of dog hair yesterday (is this trending on #Yahoo?). It looks like not much vacuuming goes on at ole' Milo's house, the love of her life would have a heart attack at that photo.

miloandjack2016 LOL. Did you see my last #IG post?? Its just a fact of life...one we R happy to live with...our #FurBabies shed lots of hair! So what...just means reg. cleaning right? Something you do anyway. #LifeWithDogs ❤ @kateplusmy8

miloandjack2016 By comparison...most of the DUST in our homes is made of dead human skin cells! You will be happy to know each of you there shed about 30,000 dead skin cells per hour!! I know this made your day?? LOL. @kateplusmy8

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Fleccing the Sheeple Well the only 2 who spoke out was Kendra and Kevin.She has 2 other siblings which there is no proof Kate has contact with them.It would be Kate's word if she said she has contact with them which i wouldn't believe.I would assume they'd be there at the party but their faces would of been covered up.Someone mention before she had contact with one sister at one point but then nothing came of that.

Sad Truth said...


Tucker's Mom said... 16
Hmmm, Omarosa worked for Al Gore and Bill Clinton.
Kate doesn't have one iota of the intelligence, presence and composure that it would take to hold a position in the White House.
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Neither does the President-elect.

Pants on Fire said...

TLC stinks said... 15

From my experience with 16 year olds, the reason for not wanting to get a license now is simply because they lead a restricted life. My kids wanted their licenses as soon as possible because they had school activities (like band or sports) and part-time jobs after school. They shared a used vehicle with no issue because it was no longer thought it cool to ride a school bus. They had cell phones and computers but would meet friends after school to eat out or hang. The twins have little social life apparently
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Yes - this^^^^^^^^^^

Very little social life is a good explanation.

Kirkland said...

I know I'm going way off topic on this, but I just stumbled across this article written by a former Bachelorette contestant. He was on 5 different "Bachelor" shows and he became obsessed with reality TV. His reputation suffered, he lost friends, he became estranged from his family and all because he wanted to be on TV.

He finally realized the error of his ways and wrote this letter about why he is quitting reality TV.

I couldn't help think of Kate when I read this. At least this guy (Chris Bukowski) finally got it. He finally realized the importance of family and friends, something Kate will never get.

My Retirement Letter From 'The Bachelor' Franchise and My Apology

Sad but true said...

Kirkland said... 24

Kate is permanently glued to the TLC teat. They will have to surgically remove her when they're ready to say adios. Hopefully at that point, she'll agree to give Jon custody of those who want to go, because I think she'll go to pieces without the money and attention.

localyocul said...

Sad Truth said... 22

Tucker's Mom said... 16
Hmmm, Omarosa worked for Al Gore and Bill Clinton.
Kate doesn't have one iota of the intelligence, presence and composure that it would take to hold a position in the White House.
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Neither does the President-elect.

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LOLOL

Sheepless In Seattle said...


I couldn't help think of Kate when I read this. At least this guy (Chris Bukowski) finally got it. He finally realized the importance of family and friends, something Kate will never get.

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Or so he says now. He has "relapsed" so often that it's difficult to know what to believe. Interesting letter, though

Jeanne said...

I think the girls have no desire to get their permit/license is Kate has told them she is no way in hell teaching them, buying them a car, or letting them use her cars. Kate is in charge and can't take the chance they can drive anywhere. What if they drive to see Beth or Aunt Jodi or their father? It's too much of a wild card.

Of course many 16 yr olds have parties with alcohol. Parents can be charged so the teens often sneak alcohol. But TLC certainly would not air a party with teens drinking. Plus they probably strip search the attendees before making them sign the NDA so they can't take a pic of Kate.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Neither does the President-elect.

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We're not really going to go there again, are we?

Sheepless In Seattle said...

@Fleccing the Sheeple Well the only 2 who spoke out was Kendra and Kevin.

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I would consider Jodi part of the family, and she spoke out at the hearings.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

miloandjack2016
...most of the DUST in our homes is made of dead human skin cells! You will be happy to know each of you there shed about 30,000 dead skin cells per hour!! I know this made your day?? LOL. @kateplusmy8

Would Milo suffer an anxiety attack if you took away her L and O keys, as well as the #?

Sheepless In Seattle said...

Please tell me that this is snark:

Carrie Harvey ‏@Wckna95Ch 2h2 hours ago
@Gardendelightfu @Kateplusmy8 she said she was making salmon burgers. I was just curious if she just put the filet on a bun

Jeanne said...

I am so confused. The girls had their party at a butcher's? That's the dream of every 16 yr old. They don't have a room they advertise on their web site as available. Was it the break room or a room in the owners' house or a prep room or what? What the hell is wrong with Kate's huge house? She has tables, chairs, couches, many rooms, a big kitchen. This is so odd. And it meant the little kids couldn't be there why? The BBB didn't get smaller the day of the party. This is such a strange party. Of course she never intended to have it at the house.

I watched the promo video on the TLC website for the party. Mostly on mute. What is on Kate's counter to the left of her hand? Is that a Zorro toy? Why is there a huge pen set up for the dogs in the family room? Sure, Kate, you love dogs.

silimom said...

Any truth to the rumors that a judge ordered Kate to give Jon custody of four of the kids New Years Eve? And also has TLC indeed stated they won't be renewing her show?

silimom said...

Any truth to the rumors that a judge ordered Kate to give Jon custody of four of the kids New Years Eve? And also has TLC indeed stated they won't be renewing her show?

Tucker's Mom said...

Sad Truth said... 22

Tucker's Mom said... 16
Hmmm, Omarosa worked for Al Gore and Bill Clinton.
Kate doesn't have one iota of the intelligence, presence and composure that it would take to hold a position in the White House.
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Neither does the President-elect.
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Oy, I knew I shouldn't have even attempted to post something that someone could use as a political cudgel...

Tucker's Mom said...

The twins have little social life apparently
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Yes - this^^^^^^^^^^

Very little social life is a good explanation.
January 4, 2017 at 7:46 PM
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And a mother who wants the twins to be her bff's.

TLC stinks said...

No proof about judge ordering Kate handing over the four on New Yeae's Eve, but she was ordered on Thanksgiving.

TLC stinks said...

Jeanne, it was a promo for that business. You can bet they comped the use of the party room and food to get air time. The whole thing about grilling those salmon burgers on the deck was made up.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#37), I think the independence associated with driving scares the snot out of TFW. Not for safety or sentimental reasons -- she seems weak on both fronts. But I think she's terrified of the twins finally being out of the confines of G Manor and spending lots of time out in the real world. Sure, they've traveled extensively with their golden platter experiences, but it was ALWAYS with Mom and TLC calling the shots. And of course I'm not saying they haven't had independent experiences at school and with friends, and in C's case, being on a sports team. But to be 16 and able to come and go as you please -- even if Mom has already mapped out your weekend to the minute with a filming schedule? TFW isn't ready for that.

CC said...

she said she was making salmon burgers. I was just curious if she just put the filet on a bun
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Probably not snark. I can see why they asked though. Like I mentioned earlier, Kate said she was making salmon burgers but they showed her grilling salmon fillets. You don't cook the salmon first to make salmon burgers. Not sure why she was grilling them whole. ๐Ÿค”

Rae Barnes said...

Ok is it just me? But the picture of the dog hair gives me the creeps! It is a fact of life but I hate seeing it much less would I ever post for the world to get the creeps looking at it too, sort of like when you hear the word lice and start scratching your head feeling. Now lest ask Milo, why the heck she is analyzing K’s picture to see shapes made out of the hair? She is a lunatic case also. If we all cock our head a little and look at her would we see a crazy person? Maybe that is what C is doing all the time, picking puppy hair off her clothes. I feel sorry for her mainly because she and everyone else knows M is the star and favorite for now until she gets kicked to the curb, then a free for all of who is the chosen one.

CC said...

I think what happened with Jon was that he got the kids on his regular custody time that happened to fall on New Year's Eve. He mentioned recently that Kate hasn't been allowing him to have the kids on holidays even if it falls on his custody time. So the source is saying he went to the judge and got his custody days that fall on holidays enforced. ???

Not sure what happened that he only got the same four again.

My guess would be the twins had plans for NYE since it fell on a Saturday, and Jon didn't want to force them on a special holiday. ? And something must be up with Alexis. I can see why people feel she's heading the same direction as Collin is. Hope not.

Kate's Fetid Soul said...

Milo is running out of ideas for conversation- and Kate's not helping her.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

CC (#41), my guess is the script called for salmon burgers, and the production assistant came back with filets instead, and TFW didn't bother to notice. She knew they'd be trashed for the real food at the real party anyway. Realest reality, right?

TLC stinks said...

Did Kate edit out Jon when she supposedly put together that video collage? First thought, she wouldn't know how to and second thought, Jon was erased.

Kate is a twit said...

CC(#43)

I think stories like this are why Jon specifically put out this tweet:

Jon Gosselin ‏@jgosselin10 Jan 3
Had a great time ringing in the new year with my kids that came on my scheduled custody, put the rumors to bed!!! 2017 will be memorable!!!

He apparently knew that rumors just like this would start swirling about the custody issues.

TLC stinks said...

I don't get this salmon thing. If she had the filets you break them up to make the parties. Did she not know that and threw some of the filets on the grill for the camera and then someone pointed out you need to break up the filets first? So she goes back to square one with the rest of the filets and breaks them up and forms patties? Are you guys saying she cooked the salmon outside and then it started to rain? Geez, she's got a second grill on the covered patio downstairs and there's a picnic table there too. Any other person would have moved the party to the basement. Such desperate measures to fill camera time with moving the party into town. Gotta have chaos and meltdowns.

Actually I think the simple answer the party prep was filmed over several days which explains her changes of clothing and the salmon snafu. It appears the editing continuity was nonexistent. Must have Figure 8 editor-in-training, LOL.

From the two clips I saw, Mary's parentification is complete with Mady comforting a 3 year old Kate. I've never seen anything like this before. Ever. I hope it was made up because if not, that psych eval can't happen fast enough.

TLC stinks said...

I don't believe any excuse should be made for Mady and Cara not seeing their dad on his assigned custody date. They could have easily visited for a few hours then proceeded with whatever plans they had, if they even had plans. I think it is horrible that Kate has brainwashed those girls. Mady is particularly hateful with her comments.

Kate is a twit said...

BTW, the stories stating that a court ordered that Jon have the kids on NYE don't even mention a source. They just make assumptions and blatantly state it as fact.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I think what happened with Jon was that he got the kids on his regular custody time that happened to fall on New Year's Eve.


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Family law orders almost always spell out holidays separately. 99 percent share holidays even-odd. On odd years you get Christmas, on odd years I get New Year's. On even years I get Thanksgiving, etc.

I bet he's got even years (2016) for New Year's Eve into New Year's day. 2017 will be Kate's turn.

It's the fairest way to handle holidays, usually. It's not fair for one parent to get all of them, or to stick to a regular schedule which may include an unusual amount of holidays in them (for instance, if Jon just followed his weekend schedule he would get way less holidays than Kate since holidays aren't always falling on weekends).

In any case, I took his comment to mean I was supposed to get New Year's ANYWAY, so rumors I was suddenly rewarded New Year's are false.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

You don't cook the salmon first to make salmon burgers. Not sure why she was grilling them whole. ๐Ÿค”


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I haven't watched yet so I'm trying to follow the progression of her recipe here, but if she cooked the fillets first, then mashed them up into burgets and cooked them again, those were probably some drywall DRY salmon burgers. YUCK.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Oy, I knew I shouldn't have even attempted to post something that someone could use as a political cudgel...


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You're fine. I think it's relevant because I see Omarosa and Kate in the same pool. Both reality show villains. Both nasty people. One took the road to capitalization off that scenario, the other is, well, a dolt.

At this point, you can only just ignore the Trump hate. The guy was smart enough to get elected and kick out once and for all one of the strongest political dynasties in human history, no matter how stupid people want to claim he is. What's that saying? It is what it is!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#53), dry salmon burgers are no problem -- just toss a coupla dozen tablespoons of lemon juice on 'em and you're good to go. That's advice from my own cookbook, which is available for pre-order 3 years ago...

Kate is a twit said...

I don't get this salmon thing. If she had the filets you break them up to make the parties. Did she not know that and threw some of the filets on the grill for the camera and then someone pointed out you need to break up the filets first? So she goes back to square one with the rest of the filets and breaks them up and forms patties? Are you guys saying she cooked the salmon outside and then it started to rain?
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In the morning, she was in the kitchen frying the salmon filets. They showed that while she was supposedly on the phone calling her friend to ask about changing the party venue.

Late on, when Kate was freaking out about all she still had to do, she said she still had to make the salmon burgers.

Then even later, in a segment that was captioned "45 minutes until party", Kate was shown forming patties from a mixture in a bowl. Don't know whether the mixture was made from the cooked salmon, or the whole previous frying stuff was just a prop to give her something to do when she was on her faux phone call with her friend.

The whole thing was odd.

Layla said...

916,000???? How is that possible?

NJGal51 said...

Why is there a huge pen set up for the dogs in the family room? Sure, Kate, you love dogs.
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I hate to defend TFW but......my puppy is a day younger than hers and we had a puppy corral set up in the great room for him. It had all the comforts of home and sometimes you just have to corral them so that you can get things done without having them underfoot or you're just tired of all the puppyness and need a break. We don't kennel ours (never have) and we don't use the puppy corral any more because he's 8 1/2 months old now and has been to training so listens to his commands to "scram out of here".

As far as the salmon burgers go, I hope she had something else for those that don't care for salmon. I know that I'm not the only person in the world who doesn't care for salmon (ha, ha, when I started to type salmon, salmonella came up as a choice) and I can't imagine that every teenager there liked it.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I was just reading about the upcoming Carrie Fisher/Debbie Reynolds documentary, and saw this comment: "When you put a camera on Carrie, she's wired for truth." Now who does that sound like the exact opposite of?

Sad but true said...

K8 got her highest numbers of the season last night, 916K with a 0.31 share, 26th-rated show. Outdaughtered got 1.166mm, with a 0.35 share, 21st ranking. Meaning only a quarter of a million people tuned out this week after Outdaughtered. Still pretty pathetic.

Sad but true said...

BTW, by comparison, LPBW is killing it for TLC, with 1.512mm viewers, ranked 17th.

I still don't see why TLC would keep her, nowhere near a million for any of seven episodes. I wonder if they're going to play along with her ruse that Collin is "back," that will no doubt draw some lookie-loos.

Kate is a twit said...

Ratings are in. 916,000 viewers. Best ratings of the season, but that's not saying much. Guess people were curious to see the twin's at 16.

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-tuesday-cable-originals-network-finals-1-3-2017.html

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


There's a quiz to take, and I think TFW would score about a 35:


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They have a breakdown of other groups they've tested, and celebrities were scoring a good four points higher than say, average college students. That seems to corroborate that study that says more narcissists are celebs than the average population.

And speaking of narcissists, as far as Kate inviting her lamaze class friend, what a strange place to find a friend, is this a narcissist thing? My narcissist also amassed friends from strange places. One woman was her roommate when she gave birth to her first child, they became friends and remained so for 30 years. The woman was her assistant and that didn't work out, then her nanny and that didn't work out, then she just was a hanger-on who would always be at the house making the kids call her Auntie when it was clear the kids felt nothing for her. I always thought that was odd. This woman ended up living in a trailer in the valley and having both her kids estrange her, so here she was, still hanging onto this friendship with celeb and her kids, while her own life was a mess.

TLC stinks said...

The ice cream truck visit was done during the summer. The tups were in shorts and everything was green. The John Deere driving was done in the fall with brown leaves and the girls wearing jackets.

Too bad the ratings were up. But it still was barely over 900k, not the usual million. I think some old fans tuned in to see the girls at 16.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

The higher ratings are disappointing. I guess it's a safe bet that she may crack a million next week -- especially with the illusion that C is back. She's never going away, folks.

Kirkland said...

Sleepless, I'm not sure what you mean by this comment:
"Or so he says now. He has "relapsed" so often that it's difficult to know what to believe. Interesting letter, though."

Chris Bukowski has not appeared on TV since he wrote that letter.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#60), and the Roloffs have a grandchild coming when Zack and his wife have a baby. They are only going to get higher ratings as they go along.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I can't tell with Mady. Is she just one of those kids who is always saying I'm bored or I have no life, even when their parents have offered them all sorts of interesting opportunities? I knew those kids.

Or is she genuinely not ever given opportunities to do anything but go to school and come home every day? I suspect it's the latter, and I think Kate has ever motive not to encourage her to have a richer life beyond schooling.

At the same time she's 16 years old, doesn't she have enough gumption by now to just SIGN UP for things Kate be damned? Unless any activity she does maybe requires parental permission.

It'd be interesting to know the real story behind her total lack of depth to her teenage life.

Jamesvader1194 said...

I think the higher ratings had to do with the fact that it was another milestone in the kids loves.I don't believe the last episode will get over a million even with the illusion that Collin is back.I also feel people wanted to know who the guy Mady hugged was and if he was a celebrity.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


As far as the salmon burgers go, I hope she had something else for those that don't care for salmon. I know that I'm not the only person in the world who doesn't care for salmon (ha, ha, when I started to type salmon, salmonella came up as a choice) and I can't imagine that every teenager there liked it.

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If I had to guess I'd say you're lucky if about half the teens even try the salmon with maybe 1/3 liking it and a couple loving it. I like salmon, but even I'm not sure about salmon burgers. Especially ones not made very well.

I'd even go so far as to say it's RUDE to serve something so polarizing at a party, unless you have other options available. That's like putting out liver and onions and expecting everyone to enjoy it. Some will love it, some will recoil. You just don't do that to your guests, it's rude.

Like I said before, hopefully she had other options. As long as you throw in some regular and veggie burgers, you've covered most people's taste buds and you're not being rude by forcing them into something many people won't like. I don't know why she does this or what it's about. I guess it could be just narcissism, SHE likes salmon burgers but just doesn't THINK that many other people won't because she can't think of others. Even if it's what the twins wanted, you explain to them that many people aren't going to like this, so we need to also have other options available.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Little People has a good storyline going in Amy dating, and it seems way more real than Kate's fake date with Vann.

The guy seems nice, though the kids are protective of her and questioning his motives. Must be hard to worry about people having fetishes when you're dating.

I think people were just curious about the twins birthday and will move right along next week. The huge drop from the first two shows I still think is more telling than the actual numbers. It's a tune out, take with it what TLC will.

Jamesvader1194 said...

Sadly i have to admit,even though its good seeing the ratings as they are.I have this gut feeling TLC isn't going to care about the poor ratings and just keep Kate.It would make no sense because why would they cancel her back in 2011 due to the poor ratings and yet the ratings this season are worse then the 2011 ones but they're ok with this?Why would they even bother cancelling her if they wanted to bring her back so badly? 

Layla said...

I believe Kate discourages the twins from driving. She won't give them a car, or let them drive one of hers. She says the kids will have to get jobs to get cars. So, they would be going to school and working two jobs. In high school. Kate said she had a job and bought her own first car. Okay, but I bet she only worked one job, not two.

If the twins were to get part-time jobs, they wouldn't be available for filming all the time. If Cara didn't want to film, she could leave. They would have more exposure to other activities besides filming. They could go to their friends' houses, to the mall, go do things normal teens do. That would Kate's worst nightmare. She will not allow that to happen.

Funny, but I thought maybe Kate would give the girls her Sequoia. She got it used in spring of 2011, so it's getting old. I expected her to dump it on the twins and treat herself to a new one. Maybe she really was holding out hope that she could get TLC to buy them a car.

Tucker's Mom said...

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One thing this Chris has going for him is that when he decided he "just wanted to be me/Chris", there wasn't some woman sitting next to him trying to "iron things out".
He's able to reclaim his life, and I wish him the best.

Don't know him from Adam, but wish him the best!

TLC stinks said...

So here's my theory. As of today, considering production schedules, she's either been cancelled or renewed. That is a fact. The reason TLC has kept her so long is that the Gosselins are a franchise that brought in tons of money and a boatload of eyeballs. At the very least, up until this year there has been a core viewership of one million, not bad.

What is different this year is Collin. Unfortunately, it was not enough for TLC to let go. Unless CPS proves abuse and/or Jon wins back some custody rights, I unfortunately believe she'll be back in 2017 with TLC footing the bill for college visits which usually occur junior year. We'll know for certain when spring break rolls around and she's spotted filming.

Tucker's Mom said...

. So it might be easier to keep these folks Mom brings into their lives at arm's length, rather than getting attached and then getting hurt.
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God know their Runcles and Raunts have been ripped from their lives ;-)

Mel said...

my guess is the script called for salmon burgers, and the production assistant came back with filets instead

I think that production is so done with her.

The whole show was a mish mash of random things, none of it tying together or making much sense.

The salmon scenario absolutely made no sense. It had the feel of a production person saying...ah, the h*ll with it. Just throw together what we have and be done with it.

locaylyocul said...

I can't stand seafood. One time someone at a store convinced me to try a sample of salmon saying it wasn't fishy (I still don't get why people like fish if it isn't "fishy"; what other food do you only like if it doesn't taste like itself). Anyway, I took a bite and OMG I could barely disguise my disgust. I was gagging as I walked out of the store. Many people dislike fish, why would you serve this at a teen party? GROSS

Kate is a twit said...

There was other food there. Some kind of pasta, salads, and what looked like another meat dish(possibly chicken) breast).

TLC has the full episode on line. If you want to wait through several ads, you can see the food table at approx. 27:45.

https://www.tlcgo.com/kate-plus-8/sweet-16/

TLC stinks said...

And do not forget there is foreign revenue to TLC also and we do not know what the viewership is overseas. Like I said, I believe it will take some major, major family change (and you would think Collin going away would be enough) to make TLC cancel her. If Collin's abuse allegations are substantiated, that may do it. Ironic that the key may be Steve's testimony.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

So I'm curious, what was the party menu at the Jerky Hut? And did the stunt dinner of salmon just go to the dogs, or did the production assistants get any?

Kate is a twit said...

In regard to my previous post--

Someone posted the episode on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmpHhP8N3AU

You can see the food table at 30:52.

NJGal51 said...

I'll bet that TFW is on the phone right now pitching the Mady and Kate show since the ratings were higher for this episode.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#67), look at poor M's role model. Is her mother ever content? Ever gracious? Ever appreciative? She can tweet #Blessed until her fingers are sore, but her behavior never reflects that. Her children, especially the ones who have been kept from their father, have not had a strong, positive parent to guide them. In fact, sadly, the opposite it true -- they have been saddled with the job of parenting their mother.

Layla said...

I can see TLC taking a break from filming for awhile. Ratings are low, there's no new story lines, and Jon could halt filming if he gets any legal rights in court. They don't want to sign on for a new season and then not be able to finish it. But I think they will keep the Gs under some kind of contract. The tups will turn 13 soon. I'm sure they will film that if they can. And weddings and future grand babies would be big, too. The show just doesn't work on a regular season-by-season basis. The family just isn't interesting enough to maintain that.

It's alarming to hear that Alexis gave Aaden a bloody nose. She seems to be a rather violent child. She, along with C, was expelled from kindergarten for being violent. She was the one who was pummeling C with her fists at gagaball. And now she hit Aaden and gave him a bloody nose. shehas been filmed shoving other kids many times. If we are only seeing "glimpses" of their lives, and we are seeing multiple instances of physical violence from her, then there is a problem. This is not just a small child who hits. She is almost 13. She should be able to controll herself by now. Once she becomes an adult, she will not get away with hitting people.

Sad but true said...

Is she bucking for a reprise of the AUS/NZ trip? Once again, she proves she not one of "you," normal SAHM single moms. And OMG, #HashtagMess!

kateplusmy8 A lasting effect from our trip to Australia in 2011! My kids insist upon having Vegemite on toast so thank God for Amazon! I've lost track of how many times Alexis has asked me recently to order more! I finally remembered!! The Tim Tams are an extra treat I threw in ... Only the original brand are worth the $! The kind we can get here in the U.S. aren't the same! #AustraliaFavoriteFoods #BlessedToTryFoodsFromAroundTheWorld #ThankfulICanMakeMyKidsHappyWithSuchLittleThings #MissYouAussieLand

natasha_not_telling Wow that's expensive, only $3 American in australia for vegemite. But so worth it lol

kateplusmy8 Vegemite is an acquired taste.. We acquired the taste immediately! Apparently kiwis butter the toast, put a thin layer of Vegemite on top and then a thin slice of cheese (cheddar?) and let it melt! It's DIVINE! And, yeah, super expensive for us!:( @natasha_not_telling @brittanymattox @simgirl77 @isshecyndiorevelyn

miloandjack2016Thanks to a mutual friend you & I have from Australia...we got a nice gift of that and were able to try it. It is an #AcquiredTaste...we had 2 who liked and two who did not! Very healthy though I'm told? @kateplusmy8

FYI, Milo's talking about Jules (aka zippyzappylife on IG), the fan who showed up at the Steve Irwin Day auction where Kate managed to raise a whole $1,500 (or less than a quarter of the trip cost for her and Skeve) for the zoo. Ah, the good old days.

FYI, Vegemite has nothing to do with vegetables. It's a concoction of brewer's yeast and salt, basically. Sounds like it fits right in with K8's cookbook.

Sue said...

I just watched the sweet 16 episode and don't think that anyone has mentioned the fact that in many of the couch interviews with the tup girls one of them was cut out of the frame. She was clearly there on the couch but the camera was focused in on only two of them. very strange.

Nicky said...

The salmon - this reminds me of an event for kids in my community a couple of years ago. A bunch of parents were organizing a Christmas lunch for the kids in the various community programs, and had decided on getting a bunch of ready made sandwiches and appies, etc from Costco. We had a $500 budget, and as it was near Christmas, no one wanted to, or had the extra time, to make sandwiches,etc for 50 kids. Enter the know-it-all director (woman in her 60's), that decided she would get a group of her friends together to make the lunch, as she felt it was a shame that the kids weren't going to get a "homemade" meal. We agreed, and just assumed she would take the $500 and buy all the fixings, and make it with her group.

End result - Veggie and Fruit Trays, Juice, and a large amount of egg salad and SALMON salad sandwiches. That's it. Now, I love a good egg salad sandwich every once and awhile, but a lot of (younger) kids don't have the palette, or the appetite, for these kinds of foods. I'd never had a "salmon salad" sandwich before, and believe me, it did not look appetizing. Just a glop of pink ooze between 2 pieces of white bread. It was almost like they dumped salmon and mayo in a blender. Ugh.

Just a classic example of someone who does not see beyond their own desires, and could not give a flying fig about what anyone else would want, or what would be appropriate for the group.

And she had a major meltdown about the amount of food left over. At least it became something we parents could laugh about for a long time.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Isn't a Kiwi a New Zealander like Stevie, and not an Australian?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

So TFW said the vegemite is "super expensive." Is that 2017 TWF-speak for "rare treat?" She's not really trying to convince people this is out of her price range, is she?

Mel said...

in many of the couch interviews with the tup girls one of them was cut out of the frame. She was clearly there on the couch but the camera was focused in on only two of them. very strange.

Yes, I also noticed that. You could see the shadow of her body moving, and sometimes her arm would edge into the frame.

I didn't like how the two girls sat together like they were the team, and stared disgustingly at the other girl who was by herself. It felt isolating. Us versus her.

NJGal51 said...

FYI, Vegemite has nothing to do with vegetables. It's a concoction of brewer's yeast and salt, basically. Sounds like it fits right in with K8's cookbook.
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Actually a dab of vegemite in soups, stews or a pasta sauce adds a layer of flavor that is really quite good. It adds a bit of umami to the dish that you just have to try to believe.

Jane said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 89
So TFW said the vegemite is "super expensive." Is that 2017 TWF-speak for "rare treat?" She's not really trying to convince people this is out of her price range, is she?
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Brownlow is out the door as I write this, searching for past-dated Vegimite!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Jane (#92), I actually guffawed when I read that! But not to be outdone, Gladys will be scouring the internet for the same thing --
TFW's 42nd birthday is just around the corner!

Layla said...

I didn't watch the episode, so I didn't know about Alexis being cut out. Someone else said that she appeared medicated in couch interviews in another episode. She is the one with the crossed arms and angry glare in the K+8 promo picture. She is always being shunned by her sisters. One of the recent articles (ROL?) had some pictures, and one of them had the tups outside the house (taken at the same time as the one where Leah had no shoes on), and Alexis has Leah in an armlock around the neck. Hannah is watching with a disgusted look. Aaden and Joel are standing together and Collin is standing off by himself with a sad, vacant look on his face. That picture speaks volumes about the dynamic between those kids.

TLC stinks said...

It's about control and having the kids available to film. If they drive, they become independent. That is absolutely what she fears.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Nicky (#87), great story. And I'm crazy about eggs, but I would rather eat a caulk sandwich than egg salad one!

JM said...

Just wanted to comment on a few things:
-Someone asked earlier if Zorro was seen in the episode - I did seem in late in the episode, when they return to the house, one of the younger kids has him on their hand
-It dawned on me that there wasn't any footage in the episode of them shopping at Target; the store they were at didn't look like Target to me. I went back and found the blog post here from when they were spotted filming at Target; it was the weekend of Sep 24-25 and they were dressed in different clothes. So none of that footage was used (didn't see it in any previous episode either).
-thanks to those that remembered about the stale cereal lady and her friend/associate that had legal troubles. I recalled that also but wasn't sure I was correct on that. I just knew someone here would remember too!
-I just thought of this: in the People mag interview, Mady says she doesn't have time for a "toxic" relationship because of all she has/is involved in, including learning to drive, but then in this episode, she says she just goes to school and back home and doesn't really need to learn to drive now ... hmmmmm!
-The timeline in the episode leading up to the party is not real (unreality). They show "3 days before party" when Kate and Mady are sitting around looking at the laptop for ideas. Mady says they have to meet about the cake at 1:30, Kate says no, by 1:30. Mady later says the party was on their actually birthday; that does make sense as their birthday was on a Saturday. 3 days before would be on a Wednesday and they are going at 1:30 to discuss the cake? I think that was filmed the weekend before, as also the twins and 2 of the younger kids are with them. Then on the "2 days before" they are shown shopping at the store for party supplies, also with only 2 other kids with them. It was strange.

jamezvader1194 said...

@Layla I do agree with what you said.Even if she is renewed,i doubt TLC is going to jump back into filming even IF Collin is home.On the other hand,this kinda begs the question.IF C is back and they already renewed her will the ratings go back into the millions?Because the episodes that feature Collin didn't get a million either.

Layla said...

Tucker's Mom (75)
Hold them at arm's length? You mean Uncle Steve, De-aunt-a, and the new Guncle? But they're like family! Not hat the kids would know what it's like to have real uncles and aunts. The real ones were banished long ago.

PA Dutch Mom said...


Brownlow is out the door as I write this, searching for past-dated Vegimite!

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She's out of luck if she goes to the place where she found the state cereal and tweeted Kate some 70 times that day when she was giddy over her stale cereal find. That store has shut its doors.

TLC stinks said...

Pretty sure judging by body language and tales of Alexis being aggressive that she is the odd man out. Same thing happened with Collin. Hope her fate is not the same.

TLC stinks said...

Vegemite must be an acquired taste from Uncle Steve.

PA Dutch Mom said...

FYI, Milo's talking about Jules (aka zippyzappylife on IG), the fan who showed up at the Steve Irwin Day auction where Kate managed to raise a whole $1,500 (or less than a quarter of the trip cost for her and Skeve) for the zoo. Ah, the good old days.

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Who is the one who traveled across the continent to meet Kate, only to be disappointed in the outcome of that meeting? I thought it was Jules, who then changed her name and tried to hide from Milo...or am I thinking of someone else?

jamezvader1194 said...

Im not sure if TLC will film future weddings or grand kids though.But here's my thing,some Kate fans would argue that TLC doesn't care how bad Kate's ratings are and they will keep her because they know she's a good mother to her kids.So if TLC for some reason is still around when the kids are adults,would this prove we are wrong about Kate?With everything that has happened in 2016.Collin,the poor ratings,kids don't talk to dad and how hard it is working with Kate.You'd think TLC would use the poor ratings as an excuse to cancel but i just don't see it.

PA Dutch Mom said...

It's alarming to hear that Alexis gave Aaden a bloody nose. She seems to be a rather violent child. She, along with C, was expelled from kindergarten for being violent.

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It depends on your definition of violent. She had anger and behaviorial issues, and was removed from Kindergarten, but I wouldn't necessarily say that she was "violent."

Layla said...

Kate is dropping hints for her sheep to send her Vegemite and Tim Tams (only the real Australian ones!). Seriously, posting a picture of the Amazon listings? Could she be any more obvious? "Look, steeple! We love these exact things, but they are sooo expensive for a poor, struggling single mom of 8! But look, you can go on Amazon and buy us some! Just make sure you get the things in the picture. Only the Australian versions will do!" Grifters gonna grift.

PA Dutch Mom said...

I don't know how they make salmon burgers in Berks, but here we make them the same way we make chicken croquettes or salmon croquettes. You use raw ground meat or fish and don't pre-cook it!

Tucker's Mom said...

What if they drive to see Beth or Aunt Jodi or their father? It's too much of a wild card.
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Well, if Steve was worth his salt as a cyber expert, and I don't think he is, he would tell Kate there is a whole world of tracking software out there whereby your kid couldn't so much as go to a McDonald's drive thru without you knowing.

Tucker's Mom said...

You're fine. I think it's relevant because I see Omarosa and Kate in the same pool. Both reality show villains. Both nasty people. One took the road to capitalization off that scenario, the other is, well, a dolt.
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Thank you! That was the intent of my addressing Omarosa/Kate in light of their shared reality tv pedigree, having Trump's CA in common.

Re: salmon burgers. I would NOT pay good $$ for salmon filets intended for burgers, and cook them prior to fabrication.
I'd mince or use my handy dandy food processor to get the grind I wanted, then mix with seasoning, herbs, spices, soy, worcesteshire, dijon etc. and what have you, and bind with egg white.
I swear, it would take me about 30 minutes to make 2 dozen patties.
Making the whole mess with grilling the filets isn't how I'd choose to go, but then again, I don't film a reality tv show in my kitchen!!

Tucker's Mom said...

I hate to defend TFW but......my puppy is a day younger than hers and we had a puppy corral set up in the great room for him. It had all the comforts of home and sometimes you just have to corral them so that you can get things done without having them underfoot or you're just tired of all the puppyness and need a break.
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Yup, nothing wrong with a pen for a puppy. It serves many purposes, like you said, from just corralling them for sanity or safety, or they might be on the ragged edge of their bladder time and you can't get to them for 10 more minutes.
Also, a big plus would be allowing Shoka to be inside without the puppies pulling on his ears. It's a nice, anthropomorphic visage to create with Shoka and his kiddos, but in reality, most adult dogs don't like the whole puppy energy thing and prefer some space.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate is a twit said... 61
Ratings are in. 916,000 viewers. Best ratings of the season, but that's not saying much. Guess people were curious to see the twin's at 16.

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-tuesday-cable-originals-network-finals-1-3-2017.html
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Thanks for reporting everyone!
Congrats go to Mady for pulling this sh*tshow's season out of the crapper. I'm sure Kate's gears are turning as she realizes her twins have brought the ratings way up, relatively speaking, that is.

PA Dutch Mom said...

It's good that Kate doesn't live in France!

"Parents throughout France now need to think twice before spanking children who misbehave, as it could land them in hot water with the law. According to a new law that was recently passed, parents will be required to spare the rod and turn to other measures of discipline — like positive reinforcement — instead.

On December 22, the French parliament successfully voted to enact the "Equality and Citizenship" bill, which places a country-wide ban on all forms of corporal punishment, including harmful physical treatment like caning, flogging, or, a more common form of punishment — spanking.

Child abuse was already illegal in the country, but this new law, which makes spanking a civil rather than criminal offense, was created to eradicate all forms of "degrading, cruel and humiliating" treatment of kids by their parents.

"Ending cruel, degrading or humiliating treatment is an indispensable component of a comprehensive national strategy for the prevention and elimination of violence against children. It lays the foundation for a culture of respect for children's rights; safeguards children's dignity and physical integrity; and encourages positive discipline and education of children through non-violent means," Marta Santos Pais, a special secretary representative of the United Nations who specializes in child protection, said in a statement supporting the new law.

Turns out, the French might be on to something. Studies have shown that spanking basically doesn't work: It can not only impair a child's IQ and their overall ability to learn, but it can also lead to low self esteem, aggressive behaviors and substance abuse and addiction problems in later years.

According to a June 2016 study that appeared in the Journal of Family Psychology, more than five decades of research revealed that children who were spanked were more likely to encounter mental health and cognitive difficulties and obstacles, become anti-social and introverted, and were more likely to defy their parents.

Reports have revealed that, since 1986, the practice of spanking children has decreased among women. However, parents across the U.S. say they still approve of spanking as a form of discipline. According to a 2016 TODAY.com survey of 3,500 people, parents are split equally down the middle, with 50 percent saying they approve of spanking.

So what are frustrated parents to do? Research shows that techniques like timeouts, reasoning and removal of privileges can be effective if done correctly.

Researchers agree that there is no one-size-fits-all approach to parenting. "What parents need to do depends upon the kind of non-compliance that the child is showing," said Robert Larzelere, a professor of human development and family science at Oklahoma State University."

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate is a twit said... 61
Ratings are in. 916,000 viewers. Best ratings of the season, but that's not saying much. Guess people were curious to see the twin's at 16.

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-tuesday-cable-originals-network-finals-1-3-2017.html
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I think the salmon burgers were because one or both twins is vegetarian, but holy smokes, get some Boca burger or Jenny O turkey burgers, too!!
I'm finally beginning to like salmon in limited quantities. It's so good for you and a great protein choice.
OK, confession. I'm growing to like salmon because I'm buying the ready-made salmon filets topped with crab at Wegmans!
Hey, if that's what it takes to get me eating salmon.... ;-)

Tucker's Mom said...

Layla said... 72
I believe Kate discourages the twins from driving.
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I have no doubt Kate either discourages their learning to drive, or she's not supporting any desires they have to drive.
If I was a single mother of 8 kids, and professed NO babysitters, nannies or cleaners, you're damn skippy my 16-year old would learn to drive!
Hey, if they don't wish to go out and about with their permit and later license, that's fine, but they'd sure as hell learn the damn skill.

Kylie said...

For whoever said the ratings are up this week are wrong. There are no ratings up as yet.

Tucker's Mom said...

What is different this year is Collin. Unfortunately, it was not enough for TLC to let go
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There is no moral compass, so it wouldn't surprise me if Kate was able to soldier on with filming, yet ANOTHER MAN down.

Warmth Of The Sun said...

Awhile back I thought the Sandie Sheep was okay, called it like it was, not dumb like most of them. However, she's much like the Lauren fan who criticizes the non-fans for harassing and bullying Kate, then turns around and berates others with name-calling, harassment, and such, especially politicians.

Are most of the sheeple such hypocrites?

NJGal51 said...

@Xxxxxxxx: @Kateplusmy8 Just watched "The Big 40" and loved the Mama Bear and lil' bear from Collin! Shows how close he is to you!
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I hope that this was meant as a dig because if it wasn't she is seriously delusional and didn't watch the whole show.

Tucker's Mom said...

locaylyocul said... 77
I can't stand seafood. One time someone at a store convinced me to try a sample of salmon saying it wasn't fishy (I still don't get why people like fish if it isn't "fishy"; what other food do you only like if it doesn't taste like itself). Anyway, I took a bite and OMG I could barely disguise my disgust. I was gagging as I walked out of the store. Many people dislike fish, why would you serve this at a teen party? GROSS
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Jeez, either you were punked, or they didn't know sh*t from shinola about fish.
Salmon is FISHY. It's a fatty fish and the taste lingers (and crawls back up to say, "hello!"). It is a totally different experience than say, cod.
As I wrote, I'm getting to enjoy salmon enough to make it part of a healthy diet.
5 years ago, you wouldn't get it near my lips!

Warmth Of The Sun said...


Brownlow is out the door as I write this, searching for past-dated Vegimite!

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Oh, Jane! Too funny!

Is this a product similar to vitameatavegamin?

Tucker's Mom said...

NJGal51 said... 82
I'll bet that TFW is on the phone right now pitching the Mady and Kate show since the ratings were higher for this episode.
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You know it.
Mady is still in the love-to-hate-her phase of the Fame Cycle.
Since Kate is in the I-nothing-her-now-go-away phase, Mady is bringing in the viewers.

Tucker's Mom said...

It's alarming to hear that Alexis gave Aaden a bloody nose. She seems to be a rather violent child. She, along with C, was expelled from kindergarten for being violent. She was the one who was pummeling C with her fists at gagaball. And now she hit Aaden and gave him a bloody nose
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Was anyone on film alarmed that Alexis assaulted her brother?

TLC stinks said...

OMG. That woman has the gall to act like purchasing this product is beyond her means. Sounds like grifting to me.

Tucker's Mom said...

Brownlow is out the door as I write this, searching for past-dated Vegimite!
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She's flooring it to World Market and elbowing everyone out of the way to fill her basket with jars of Vegemite for Kate!
Love how Kate says she so blessed to be able to give things like Vegemite to her kids.
They've more than earned it, you tight wad.

Gigi Be said...

There was something really creapy about the way Kate kept hugging and slobbering all over maddy while looking at the camera . All while ignoring Cara, who also turned 16.

RoxyHelen said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 67

I can't tell with Mady. Is she just one of those kids who is always saying I'm bored or I have no life, even when their parents have offered them all sorts of interesting opportunities? I knew those kids.

Or is she genuinely not ever given opportunities to do anything but go to school and come home every day? I suspect it's the latter, and I think Kate has ever motive not to encourage her to have a richer life beyond schooling.

At the same time she's 16 years old, doesn't she have enough gumption by now to just SIGN UP for things Kate be damned? Unless any activity she does maybe requires parental permission.

It'd be interesting to know the real story behind her total lack of depth to her teenage life.

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Regarding the question "Why won't Mady just sign up for stuff" I'm thinking:

a. Maybe certain activities cost money, if Kate doesn't want Mady to have a cent, she probably won't and
b. Don't they live in the middle of nowhere? Even the bus stop is far enough that they need to be driven there. If the activity isn't right after school and Mady has no license and no one to drive her, again, pretty hard to do I would think

Now, there's the possibily that both Mady and Cara do have a social life but it is being kept away from cameras. Maybe the girls' friends(except Marley) have refused to sign NDAs, maybe the girls themselves refused to film stuff like that. I anyway suspect the sweet 16 party was just like the sextuplets' 4th and 6th birthday party: a party just for the cameras, with private ones having already taken place or scheduled for sometime in the future.

I haven't seen the episode so if anything I say contradicts the episode, sorry.

Warmth Of The Sun said...



Is she bucking for a reprise of the AUS/NZ trip? Once again, she proves she not one of "you," normal SAHM single moms. And OMG, #HashtagMess!

kateplusmy8 A lasting effect from our trip to Australia in 2011! My kids insist upon having Vegemite on toast so thank God for Amazon! I've lost track of how many times Alexis has asked me recently to order more!


Oh, gosh. Heaven forbid that any child has to eat mediocre toast. When they INSIST, all good moms give in to their demands. What a snob, and the Sheep can't see this?

Sad but true said...

lee05carrieHere in Australia you can get personalised Vegemite jars with your name on it. Your kids would love it. @kateplusmy8

kateplusmy8 W.H.A.T.? My kids would go absolutely bonkers for a personalized jar of Vegemite! You're correct! How amazing is THAT? #Impressed #Shocked @lee05carrie

Yes, I'm sure they'd go bonkers, they live in a house covered in stickers and post-its.

Sad but true said...

It's not TLC, but it is the "reality" of reality TV. We know this is true from what we've witnessed on K8 + 7.

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/married-first-sight-star-slams-show-faking-scenes-forcing-conversations/

Sad but true said...

Oh look. I'm sure this is exactly the reaction she was hoping for.

brookereynolds21 I'll bring u some when we come over later in the year.. $11 a jar omg - we pay about $5 for a massive one.. one of babies first foods here in oz is Vegemite on toast..

XXXXX Wow my US friends can't stand Vegemite !! Great jobs kids. Let me know if you need any supplies shipped over. @downunderbox are great

XXXXX There are so many tim tam flavours that are so good. You need someone to send them too you. I'll do it

Tucker's Mom said...

Carrie Deao ‏@carriedeao 10h10 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Just watched "The Big 40" and loved the Mama Bear and lil' bear from Collin! Shows how close he is to you!
******
Yes, it does.
Sigh, so sad.

Sherry Baby said...

Actually a dab of vegemite in soups, stews or a pasta sauce adds a layer of flavor that is really quite good. It adds a bit of umami to the dish that you just have to try to believe.

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But does it add a freshness of aromatics when it's infused into the stew? A bouquet garni?

I watch too much Chopped.

CC said...

TLC stinks said...
So here's my theory. As of today, considering production schedules, she's either been cancelled or renewed.
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What other option is there?

Sad but true said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 103

No, you got it right, same person. She and her husband have a gaggle of foster/adopted children, I guess she thought she'd have something in common with Khate. Not really.

Sad but true said...

jamezvader1194 said... 104
Im not sure if TLC will film future weddings or grand kids though.But here's my thing,some Kate fans would argue that TLC doesn't care how bad Kate's ratings are and they will keep her because they know she's a good mother to her kids.
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TLC has shown that the only thing they care about is MONEY. The fact that they keep her---or not---will never have anything to do with her being a good mother. On the contrary, I think so many of the episodes this year (Collin notwithstanding) have demonstrated exactly why she's more of a mediocre mother, with huge mental issues, than a good one. I think if they keep the show going they're batshit crazy, because she is a very big liability. Those kids WILL sue some day, and they'll go after TLC, which has much deeper pockets than Figure 8 or K8 or Steve or any of the other enablers.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Wasn't A labelled either a "disturber" or a "disruptor" by her mother early on? The 2 other girl tups seemed more like twins, with A being the third wheel. Who knows how that impacted her spirit.

Tucker's Mom (#116), yes, that gift showed how C felt about his mom. And her cold, confused, and hurtful reaction showed how she felt about him.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

TFW's no dummy. Yep, let the free vegemite flow like water. Who is she to say no?

Mel said...

It's alarming to hear that Alexis gave Aaden a bloody nose.

I don't know that she deliberately assaulted him. It sounded like it was an accident.

Either he bumped into her with all of his flailing around, or she was swinging an arm around and accidentally hit him in the face.

None of the kids seemed worked up about it; it didn't seem like the others were indicating that she hit him on purpose. At least that was my impression.

Tucker's Mom said...

-I just thought of this: in the People mag interview, Mady says she doesn't have time for a "toxic" relationship because of all she has/is involved in, including learning to drive, but then in this episode, she says she just goes to school and back home and doesn't really need to learn to drive now ... hmmmmm!
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Good memory! Wow.
It was obvious that Mady was justifying her contempt of her father.
It's a shame she's taking Kate's path and lying to everyone, including herself.
Scary how much Mady is following in Kate's footsteps.

Tucker's Mom said...

TLC stinks said... 107
OMG. That woman has the gall to act like purchasing this product is beyond her means. Sounds like grifting to me.
January 5, 2017 at 12:13 PM
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Grifting, bragging, patting herself on the back...
It's sometimes amusing to watch her sick mind at work...

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Did she actually tweet "W.H.A.T.?" Between that and "always always always," she truly is a 12-year-old girl trapped in a 42-year-old's body. Again, it's not like she's chit-chatting with her buddies or her own sisters. That was to a fan in Australia who just happened to tweet her. She creates this fake casual intimacy, which in this case she thinks is gonna help her score some freebies. Next she'll just casually tweet the correct spellings of all her kids' names, in case that fan decides to surprise her with 8 Little Vegemite Jars. Get it right, lady -- M's name has only one D, not 2!

I'm a Vegetarian No Salmon Please said...

think the salmon burgers were because one or both twins is vegetarian,
$$$$$
Huh? Vegetarians do not eat fish so how would a salmon burger accommodate a vegetarian?

Tucker's Mom said...

Grifters gonna grift.
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LOL, Layla!
Ms. Swift should write a song about that ;-)

localyocul said...

Tucker's Mom said... 119
locaylyocul said... 77
I can't stand seafood. One time someone at a store convinced me to try a sample of salmon saying it wasn't fishy (I still don't get why people like fish if it isn't "fishy"; what other food do you only like if it doesn't taste like itself). Anyway, I took a bite and OMG I could barely disguise my disgust. I was gagging as I walked out of the store. Many people dislike fish, why would you serve this at a teen party? GROSS
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Jeez, either you were punked, or they didn't know sh*t from shinola about fish.
Salmon is FISHY. It's a fatty fish and the taste lingers (and crawls back up to say, "hello!"). It is a totally different experience than say, cod.
As I wrote, I'm getting to enjoy salmon enough to make it part of a healthy diet.
5 years ago, you wouldn't get it near my lips!

))

Yeah I found that out the hard way. The only fish I could ever stomach was flounder drowned in butter and lemon juice at my MIL for Good Friday

localyocul said...

Tucker's Mom said... 113

OK, confession. I'm growing to like salmon because I'm buying the ready-made salmon filets topped with crab at Wegmans!

Don't even get me started on crab. BLECH. I think my aversion to seafood came about because we went crabbing when I was about 4. Hot, seasick, big bug looking things all mixed with the smell of seafood.

PA Dutch Mom said...

OK, confession. I'm growing to like salmon because I'm buying the ready-made salmon filets topped with crab at Wegmans!

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We don't have a Wegmans yet, but one is coming soon. I love any fish topped with crab. I will have to try that! We have a Bonefish Grill here, and my favorite thing to order is the tilapia and crab.

Now I'm hungry.

PA Dutch Mom said...

No, you got it right, same person. She and her husband have a gaggle of foster/adopted children, I guess she thought she'd have something in common with Khate. Not really.

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Wasn't she hiding from Milo and Milo tracked her down? I forget that story. So many of those sheep blend together.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Carrie Deao ‏@carriedeao 10h10 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Just watched "The Big 40" and loved the Mama Bear and lil' bear from Collin! Shows how close he is to you!
******
Yes, it does.
Sigh, so sad.

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What show was she watching?

PA Dutch Mom said...

look. I'm sure this is exactly the reaction she was hoping for.

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And the sheep fell for it, hook, line and sinker. What doofi! Sorry for the fish reference, local!

I guess Brownie can call off her frantic search for the outdated ones.

NJGal51 said...

I think that Alexis hitting Aaden in the nose was an accident. I don't think she hauled off and punched him. It sounded like normal horsing around. I come from a family of 7 kids and there were bloody noses, black eyes and once a broken nose. None of it done on purpose or maliciously. My sister was on the swing once and I was dancing in front of her with a round, metal snow coaster in front of me taunting her with "I bet you can't kick me!" She did and I ended up with a couple of stitches in my head.

PA Dutch Mom said...

b. Don't they live in the middle of nowhere? Even the bus stop is far enough that they need to be driven there. If the activity isn't right after school and Mady has no license and no one to drive her, again, pretty hard to do I would think

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It's not in the middle of nowhere and the bus drop-off isn't that far. There's a late bus from school to her area, so if she wants to do after-school activities, it's no problem.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Salmon is FISHY. It's a fatty fish and the taste lingers (and crawls back up to say, "hello!"). It is a totally different experience than say, cod.
As I wrote, I'm getting to enjoy salmon enough to make it part of a healthy diet.

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Tucker's, I don't know if you have a BJ's Restaurant and Brewery near you, but the other night I had their salmon quinoa bowl and it was wonderful. I ate the whole thing. Their cherry chipotle glazed salmon is also very good. I've never had it crawl back on me, though!

Tucker's Mom said...

I think so many of the episodes this year (Collin notwithstanding) have demonstrated exactly why she's more of a mediocre mother, with huge mental issues, than a good one.
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Kate's mental state and thin grasp on sanity is very evident this season. She is seen over and over to be panicked, crying, tearful, fearful, anxious and unreasonable. The fact that she's all of the above in front of her kids is horrible.
Children should not have that on their plate, especially after parents divorce and the loss of a sibling to God knows what, who knows where.

Kate's Fetid Soul said...

Tucker's Mom said... 139
-I just thought of this: in the People mag interview, Mady says she doesn't have time for a "toxic" relationship because of all she has/is involved in, including learning to drive, but then in this episode, she says she just goes to school and back home and doesn't really need to learn to drive now ... hmmmmm!
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Good memory! Wow.
It was obvious that Mady was justifying her contempt of her father.
It's a shame she's taking Kate's path and lying to everyone, including herself.
Scary how much Mady is following in Kate's footsteps.

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Kate has indeed succeeded in brain washing her daughter. Naturally, it happens when you live with someone day in and day out, listening to the same b.s.

I'm sure Kate tries to influence her kids by crying/ lamenting/ complaining and threatening them about what a great mother she is, and what a crappy father Jon is.

It would benefit Kate to keep her children close to her, because the moment they leave the nest, the game will be over.

Tucker's Mom said...

I'm a Vegetarian No Salmon Please said... 142
think the salmon burgers were because one or both twins is vegetarian,
$$$$$
Huh? Vegetarians do not eat fish so how would a salmon burger accommodate a vegetarian?
January 5, 2017 at 1:54 PM
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Thanks for the correction. Whatevs.

Layla said...

Oh, now she's going nutty about how much her kids would love personalized jars of Vegemite. I'm sure she saw that message and immediately thought, "Cool, if I say my kids would go bonkers for personalized jars, then this sheep will get me 8 jars." She is always looking for ways to get more, more, more.

I hate salmon burgers, by the way. My mother used to make them when I was a child, and just the smell of them being fried used to make me gag. What kind of teen asks for those for a birthday party? They must have had something else to eat. You know, something a non-Gosselin might like.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Shannon Vance
‏@ShannonDallas3
@Kateplusmy8 can I please have the salmon burger recipe

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Good gosh. Someone please post the recipe for these darn salmon burgers made with pre-grilled salmon. Don't they know how to google?

Sherry Baby said...

It was obvious that Mady was justifying her contempt of her father.
It's a shame she's taking Kate's path and lying to everyone, including herself.
Scary how much Mady is following in Kate's footsteps.

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Clearly Mady will need to learn to remember what she has said in the past, and to keep her stories credible and straight! I don'r believe that Kate is the one to teach her that fine art.

Perhaps Milo could give her some pointers!

I'm a Vegetarian No Salmon Please said...

Tucker's Mom said... 155
I'm a Vegetarian No Salmon Please said... 142
think the salmon burgers were because one or both twins is vegetarian,
$$$$$
Huh? Vegetarians do not eat fish so how would a salmon burger accommodate a vegetarian?
January 5, 2017 at 1:54 PM
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Thanks for the correction. Whatevs.
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You're welcome. I would have expected a food expert such as yourself to know something so basic. This information might come in handy so you don't embarrass yourself by trying to accommodate a vegetarian by serving them fish. Whatevs.

GollyGee said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 141
Did she actually tweet "W.H.A.T.?" Between that and "always always always," she truly is a 12-year-old girl trapped in a 42-year-old's body. Again, it's not like she's chit-chatting with her buddies or her own sisters. That was to a fan in Australia who just happened to tweet her. She creates this fake casual intimacy, which in this case she thinks is gonna help her score some freebies. Next she'll just casually tweet the correct spellings of all her kids' names, in case that fan decides to surprise her with 8 Little Vegemite Jars. Get it right, lady -- M's name has only one D, not 2!

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Vegemite for 8!

Mady
Cara
Leah
Aaden
Hannah
Alexis
Joel

Collin...Collin? (Ben Stein's voice)

Jeanne said...

Back in the late seventies/early eighties, I knew a woman who had a Down child. Things were different back then with practically no services available. She was a teacher and spent hours and hours with him teaching him colors, shapes, senses, everything she could think of, over and over again. Today he is quite high functioning, involved with special olympics, a job, friends. He can't manage his bills but he can do everything else.

The Gosselin kids as HOM were at risk for many problems. Kate was incredibly lucky that none of them had anything like cerebral palsy or spina bifida. And they were in the womb for pretty long for HOMs. Do any of them even have asthma like many preemies? They had a good beginning. But then many things aren't known until kids start to develop. Do they sit up, roll over, etc on time? Do they connect with familiar adults? But Kate paid no attention. She didn't bond with them, never looked at them as individuals, kept them in cribs for many extra hours a day, and beat them for acting their age. She is lucky any of them turned out without physical and/or mental problems. For whatever reason, Colin has serious issues and it seems that Alexis might have serious issues. i feel bad for them that they are suffering from Kate's neglect. I'm also sure that whatever their issues it's worse having to go through it on tv.

Tucker's Mom said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 146
OK, confession. I'm growing to like salmon because I'm buying the ready-made salmon filets topped with crab at Wegmans!

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We don't have a Wegmans yet, but one is coming soon. I love any fish topped with crab. I will have to try that! We have a Bonefish Grill here, and my favorite thing to order is the tilapia and crab.

Now I'm hungry.
******
Sistas from another Mista!
That's exactly what I order at BFG! I bet you love the Bang Bang Shrimp, too?
Oh, the Mussels Josephine are delicious.
OK, now I have to tell DH where we're going to dinner tomorrow.

Wegmans is amazing. I've been very impressed with their Wegmans brand products, edible and other. The price points are terrific, as they are for most sundries.
Of course, you can spend a pretty penny on breads, cheeses, sushi, prepared foods, seafood, charcuterie...
But, it's nice to treat yourself!
Our Weggies sells wine and beer, of course, and their staff is terrific for recommendations and pairings.

jamezvader1194 said...

Warmth Of The Sun (117) I herd that there were signs that the Sandie fan was changing her mind about Kate and she seemed to of been one of the more reasonable fans.When Milo tweeted about going to Kate's house,she was one of the fans who was actually worried about Kate and wonder what Milo was talking about.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate virtually never responds with her recipes. Maybe she'll post it on her blog?
Perhaps a Throwback Thursday 2 years from now?

NJGal51 said...

I wonder of all those Australian fans that are offering to get her Vegemite and Tim Toms know that they'll get the promise of pay but will probably never see any payment. They should be honored that TFW will allow them to send her something.

Tucker's Mom said...

Jeanne said... 161
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Can you imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth if Kate had a child with CP or SB? Or any plethora of other conditions which preemies tend to have?
My best guess is that Kate has never been proactive, rather, she's been very slow to react to any problems.
I doubt she was on top of all the tups' developmental milestones.
It's hard to believe that no medical professional picked up on Collin's symptoms when he was a toddler or even when he was 5 or 6.
Of course, it's possible Kate was told that Collin had a condition or conditions and hid it.

Tucker's Mom said...

NJGal51 said... 165
I wonder of all those Australian fans that are offering to get her Vegemite and Tim Toms know that they'll get the promise of pay but will probably never see any payment. They should be honored that TFW will allow them to send her something.
January 5, 2017 at 3:21 PM
*****
I can only hope the Millionaire Madame is grifting for free stuff again because she's been told by TLC that she will be piecin' and patchin'.

localyocul said...

Tucker's Mom said... 155
I'm a Vegetarian No Salmon Please said... 142
think the salmon burgers were because one or both twins is vegetarian,
$$$$$
Huh? Vegetarians do not eat fish so how would a salmon burger accommodate a vegetarian?
January 5, 2017 at 1:54 PM
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Thanks for the correction. Whatevs.

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Some do. They call themselves pescatarians nowadays but there have always been some vegetarians who eat fish but not meat.

NJGal51 said...
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NJGal51 said...

If anyone read Stephen King's 11.22.63., it's now an 8 part original Hulu series. I guess I know what my next binge watch will be.

Tucker's Mom said...

NJGal51 said... 170
If anyone read Stephen King's 11.22.63., it's now an 8 part original Hulu series. I guess I know what my next binge watch will be.
January 5, 2017 at 3:48 PM
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It is REALLY good!
I also read today that Netflix will stream a remake of the old sitcom, "One Day At A Time".

http://www.vulture.com/2017/01/netflix-one-day-at-a-time-is-a-pure-delight.html

It is getting RAVE reviews.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#171), a few weeks ago, I saw Mackenzie Phillips from the original "One Day At A Time" at a coffee shop by my house. I smiled at her and she smiled back. She was on her former co-star Valerie Bertinelli's cooking show, and said she has a dog named Franklin, named after their TV mom Bonnie Franklin who passed away a few years ago.

Tucker's Mom said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 172
Tucker's Mom (#171), a few weeks ago, I saw Mackenzie Phillips from the original "One Day At A Time" at a coffee shop by my house. I smiled at her and she smiled back. She was on her former co-star Valerie Bertinelli's cooking show, and said she has a dog named Franklin, named after their TV mom Bonnie Franklin who passed away a few years ago.
January 5, 2017 at 4:08 PM

*****
I would have wanted to give her a big hug.
That show was great. I watch Valerie's cooking show and she's very good at hosting. She has lots of family and friends and her home is so warm.
She also has a great relationship with her ex, and LOVES that her son Wolfie (sp?) tours with him.

Tizzie said...

It seems that a lot of the commenters on Facebook & Twitter are too busy picking on the kids about their "attitudes", how they speak to Kate, etc to notice how KATE speaks and acts towards THE KIDS.

Kate has been shown in episode after episode yelling at the kids, being unnecessarily rude to the kids, making negative remarks both to the kids' faces and behind their backs and bullying them. And she ALWAYS rolls her eyes at them, both in front of them and behind their backs.

Why haven't we seen HER get punished? Why hasn't SHE been spanked, had her phone taken away, been excluded from outings/activities and whatever other punishments she has doled out to the children for THE SAME THINGS SHE DOES TO THEM?

NOIP said...

The Gosselin kids as HOM were at risk for many problems. Kate was incredibly lucky that none of them had anything like cerebral palsy or spina bifida. And they were in the womb for pretty long for HOMs. Do any of them even have asthma like many preemies?

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http://www2.readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=140514

The Gosselin kids as HOM were at risk for many problems. Kate was incredibly lucky that none of them had anything like cerebral palsy or spina bifida. And they were in the womb for pretty long for HOMs. Do any of them even have asthma like many preemies?
Collin and Alexis had March of Dimes help them with physical problems they had as preemies and all the 6 had breathing treatments several times a day.

Kate has never had to pay for anything. Every electronic, appliance, bed, crib, stove, washing machine, etc., has been given to her & Jon. Jon's father made a significant deposit on their first house with generous monthly donations. The second house came with Beth & Bobs generous financial help. TLC opened their wallet to put a fabulous deposit & closing costs + first month taxes. The $300,000 that came from second home sale was used to pay for the 23 acres. She's had it good for a loooonnngg time and fears it's all coming to an end. She has a lot of money left, she just doesn't want to tap into her own. She's gotten use to other people paying for literally everything from soup to nuts.



http://www2.readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=140514

Midnight Madness said...

Some do. They call themselves pescatarians nowadays but there have always been some vegetarians who eat fish but not meat.

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Yes, very true. A friend of mine is a vegetarian, absolutely will not eat meat of any kind, but she does enjoy broiled salmon and flounder.

jerrym said...

An interesting read - when narcissists become parents

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/parenting/wp/2017/01/05/a-generation-of-narcissists-is-becoming-parents-what-now/?utm_term=.179019a72a29

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tizzie (#174), and didn't she scold the kids in one of these recent episodes that they don't discourage, they encourage, or some similar comment which is the opposite of her own attitude and behavior? What a miserable role model she is.

Midnight Madness said...

Are you sure she grilled the salmon before she shaped them into patties? I never heard of that, and I don't watch the shows. I have made apple salmon burgers (Food Network) and they are excellent!

Layla said...

Tucker's Mom (167),
I'm wondering the same thing...why is she suddenly grafting again? She backed off from that--probably because she could get all the crap she wanted from TLC, and now suddenly she is back to griffins with a vengeance. I mean really, posting the Amazon links, along with a message about how expensive this stuff is and how much the kids these products. She's practically smacking the sheep in the face and yelling, "buy this for me!". We have all thought for awhile now that TLC is done with her, and now she's back to acting like she did last time she was cancelled. Coincidence?

Looking at episode listing for this season, it seems that the 10-year anniversary was meant to be a special, and the season was supposed to be 8 additional episodes. But there are only 7 episodes, and the spot for the description for the 8th has nothing. Did they film all year and end up without enough usable footage for that last episode? Maybe that's why they'd stop the show. There's nothing more to film.or maybe that last episode will be a farewell. Or they may save it for the tups' 13th birthday so they don't have to contract for an entire season just to film that. Whichever it is, it is very curious.

foxy said...

There ia a good recipe for salmon burgers made with cooked salmon. you grill the salmon, cool it, flake it in to a large bowl, add green onions, parsley, sea salt, pepper eggs, panko crumbs, mix together and form patties. Then dredge in flour to make the outside crispy and fry them. My mom always made these with canned salmon.

Sad but true said...

Tizzie said... 174

Why haven't we seen HER get punished? Why hasn't SHE been spanked, had her phone taken away, been excluded from outings/activities and whatever other punishments she has doled out to the children for THE SAME THINGS SHE DOES TO THEM?
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Unfortunately, the only ones in a position to spank Kate are TLC or Skeve (ewww). Though in the latter case, I get the sense that he likes Kate to do the spanking.

There is an outside chance a judge will take his/her hand to her, metaphorically, but I'm not holding my breath on that one. Would be very nice to see her get a taste of her own medicine, wouldn't it.

CC said...

PA Dutch Mom said...
It's not in the middle of nowhere and the bus drop-off isn't that far. There's a late bus from school to her area, so if she wants to do after-school activities, it's no problem.
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But can you get to any of those places without driving?

Also, even if you can walk or ride your bike, how safe is that? I wouldn't let my 16-year-old daughter walk or ride in an area like that. There aren't sidewalks. How about a bike lane? And I don't think safe anyway. Kids get abducted. It happens. No thanks.

Seems to me you have to drive to go anywhere from their house.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

The church ladies'saga. Yes, I saw that Hope Alice, infant daughter that the ex husband of one of the women fathered with his son's girlfriend, was diagnosed with dwarfism, and poor Bernice bit the dust...

Barbara Jean
@barbiejeansayre
BERNICE in 304 dead AT 67 RIP sis had her a sezure on acct a the epalipsy say SHE seen a light saver off a Carrie FISHER tribute an lost it

The other one has now gotten into politics...GOD'S GAL DARLENE ‏@bigbrotherdar Jan 3
Hillary goin to inograshin showing class while Trump set n tweet n show of he's ASS

And Barbie, as far as I can tell, had a massive heart attack and needs bypass surgery; then fell and broke her hip and has moved into the Towers. I have no idea where TJ is right now, but it sounds like he took off with Diane.

Poor Carla is still a go-fer.

I'm a Vegetarian No Salmon Please said...

ocalyocul said... 168
Tucker's Mom said... 155
I'm a Vegetarian No Salmon Please said... 142
think the salmon burgers were because one or both twins is vegetarian,
$$$$$
Huh? Vegetarians do not eat fish so how would a salmon burger accommodate a vegetarian?
January 5, 2017 at 1:54 PM
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Thanks for the correction. Whatevs.

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Some do. They call themselves pescatarians nowadays but there have always been some vegetarians who eat fish but not meat.
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Yes, they are pescatarians, not vegetarians. If you want to accommodate a pescatarian, feed them fish. If you want to accommodate a vegetarian, do not feed them fish. Simple as that.

Original T said...

If you watch the episode, you can see a "no smoking" sign posted on the garage when she is doing the driving lesson in the Gator. How odd.

Sad but true said...

Original T said... 186

I would bet that's for the crew.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Little People has a good storyline going in Amy dating, and it seems way more real than Kate's fake date with Vann.

The guy seems nice, though the kids are protective of her and questioning his motives. Must be hard to worry about people having fetishes when you're dating.

I think people were just curious about the twins birthday and will move right along next week. The huge drop from the first two shows I still think is more telling than the actual numbers. It's a tune out, take with it what TLC will.


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That may be the strict dictionary definitions, but surely you have noticed that many people deviate from the diet, both more restrictive and less restive, and yet still call themselves vegetarians. It is very common to find fish-eating "vegetarians" who call themselves as such.


In many cases, you will make "vegetarians" perfectly happy by serving fish. We did a cooking class over the holidays with the women in my side of the family, and I was really worried about my vegetarian cousin because the menu was fish. But when I asked, she assured me she was perfectly happy to eat fish. I didn't question her, but that is a pretty common experience. It's best to check, but fish is often just fine to serve those folks.

jamezvader1194 said...

Someone correct me if im wrong,but wasn't the last time she grift for something was the Polly pockets back in February?Im assuming that was when TLC wasn't filming her.But my God she is such a kiss ass kateplusmy8 Thank you ...ALL of my Australian friends for all of your offers to send us our favorite Australian foods! Awww true to form, each and every one of you: kind, giving and truly 'no worries'! I wasn't asking you to send us stuff.. But truly, just seeing your offers reminded me of yet another reason why I love the land down under! The AMAZING people!! XO friends! We talk nearly daily about visiting again .. It was the BEST trip ever! (Ps: this applies to New Zealand as well:) @joanne_ciseau @brookereynolds21 @loveisfluid

Over And Out said...

I have never heard of salmon being cooked before forming into burgers. Wouldn't it be dry and tough if done that way?

Sad but true said...

Another post on IG today, a video I can't be bothered to watch. K8 must have very little to do. And I wonder why Macaroni Mak gets no special toys or, apparently, attention.

kateplusmy8 'Noodle Nan' (as we sometimes call her) got a new 'indoor ball' in the mail today ...less chance of breaking something๐Ÿ˜‚. It's a bit big so it took her awhile to master the catch! Fortunately, she did ... AND it wore her out and now she's asleep! #Whew #EnergyThatNeverEnds #Nanuq #PlayingBallOnTheStairs #FavoriteGame

coachanna34 Careful, those come apart really easy with some chewing so I recommend taking it away after playtime!

kateplusmy8 Yes! Thanks! She already tried to chew it apart (took it to bed with her) so I grabbed it up fast! :) she has multiple 'when being watched/played with only' balls/frisbees etc! She destroys EVERYTHING! Partly why I keep them entertained with new toys constantly! It's that or my house will be demolished lol! @coachanna34

miloandjack2016๐Ÿ˜‹ So HOW many balls for your pups does that make? She's good! Great balance! #NoodleNanSaysYesICan. #PlayBall. @kateplusmy8

miloandjack2016@kateplusmy8 Really good that you supply constant toys... Keeps her active & sharp mentally...and most important #OutOfTrouble. #Nanuq seems to be really smart!!

salomone.anthony@kateplusmy8 hi Kate I am a big fan your doing a awesome job as a mom its great seeing your family grow up on tv hopefully there more to come
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I included this comment from this Salomone fellow because he has been omnipresent on her social media lately. He apparently met K8 and twins last summer in Chicago. He has been all over the K8 FB page since the episodes came back, always saying how Mady is high-strung and Cara is do laid-back and mellow but that's not K8's fault, etc., etc. Except something else came out a couple of days ago about Cara's "big breasts." I went back to look for the comment, I don't know if it was swiffered, but I do know it was there, as I did a double-take when I saw it.

Yes, it's a fine fine life that K8 has managed for her kids. I wonder about all the creepers out there who don't make themselves so obvious on social media.

Over And Out said...


That may be the strict dictionary definitions, but surely you have noticed that many people deviate from the diet, both more restrictive and less restive, and yet still call themselves vegetarians. It is very common to find fish-eating "vegetarians" who call themselves as such.

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Absolutely. My sister-in-law calls herself a vegetarian, not a pescatarian, and she eats fish. Call them whatever you want, as long as they are happy with what they eat! A rose by any other name is still a rose. Why put a label on it?

Sad but true said...

Aw look, K8 went back after 80 comments to say she wasn't grifting after all. Anyone believe her? Show of hands . . . And another BEST trip ever! Nothing's ever mediocre in K8World.

kateplusmy8 Thank you ...ALL of my Australian friends for all of your offers to send us our favorite Australian foods! Awww true to form, each and every one of you: kind, giving and truly 'no worries'! I wasn't asking you to send us stuff.. But truly, just seeing your offers reminded me of yet another reason why I love the land down under! The AMAZING people!! XO friends! We talk nearly daily about visiting again .. It was the BEST trip ever! (Ps: this applies to New Zealand as well:) @joanne_ciseau @brookereynolds21 @loveisfluid

NJGal51 said...

TFW has a new video up on IG of Nookie Pookie catching a ball thrown to her. The problem that I see is that the dog is on the stairs jumping to catch the ball. Dangerous.

Over In TFW's County said...

Also, even if you can walk or ride your bike, how safe is that? I wouldn't let my 16-year-old daughter walk or ride in an area like that. There aren't sidewalks. How about a bike lane? And I don't think safe anyway. Kids get abducted. It happens. No thanks.

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There's not much traffic in that area. It's not like there are cars whizzing around Reading on the four-lane highway. If a kid wants to go on a bike ride, they can safely do it there. If they need a bike lane anywhere near that area, they are out of luck. If safety is a concern, there's always back and forth on the driveway.

Abductions can happen anywhere, even off urban streets, near a school, at a shopping mall, in the daytime, and yet kids frequently hang out in those areas. Yes, safety is always a concern, but where should a parent draw the line and tell them that they can't be in those places because they might be abducted? I don't know.

Sad but true said...

Oh no, it's a #NoodleNanCrisis! And Mommy's melting down---again. You really do this on the stairs? That's sounds like asking for breakage, or at least a mess. What a DoIt.

sammie_naglich She's gorgeous!!! Is she just a white German shepherd?!

kateplusmy8 She's a sable (not totally white) king shepherd! Shokas daughter, Maks sister! There were 4 in their litter and I didn't even know this color existed prior! They are so fun!! A shepherd of a different color!:) @sammie_naglich

clumsyj878 Love it! Careful on the stairs. My dad's golden broke her leg that way :(.

kateplusmy8 Omg OMG omg I keep wondering if she should be doing that! She's done it since she was a little puppy and I asked about it and no one seemed worried except for me so... Now I AM worried! Thank you! @clumsyj878

miloandjack2016@kateplusmy8 If she is at the bottom of the stairs...I would not worry. If she is 4 or mote steps up...May want to exercise caution. Dogs are pretty nimble and can take alot of wrestling around! But I know how you worry... #CrazyDogLady. ๐Ÿ˜‹

kateplusmy8 She does this at highest steps .. We make a wall to cash her tho if she should slip.. For real. But yeah now I am worried.. More so! @miloandjack2016

All This Is That said...

Is a member of the Univeral church, who is fish-eating vegetarian, called a pescatarian Unitarian?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#191), isn't it interesting that the parent who claims to be the only one concerned about their privacy served her daughters up on a golden platter at a fan event, and now the dude is commenting on their bodies?

I'll say it again -- TFW wouldn't hesitate for a second to put the twins' dating life on film, if that's what it takes to extend the life of the show. She will not go out without a fight. No still never means no to her.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

What's with all the chitchat from TFW? New meds? Box o' wine?

CC said...

I know where I draw the line... a minor going anywhere alone. They'd have to be in a group. But that's just me. Especially if it's not a busy area with lots of people around.

But specifically I was asking if the Gosselin's live close enough to the school bus stop and stores, mall, restaurants, etc, that Mady can get to without a car. Can she walk? Ride a bike? Is it a 10 minute walk? An hour? Or would she actually need a car to get to those places?

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