Fadetoblack-so glad you love it too! I am excited to find out when/if season 2 will be on. Lol Tucker's mom,now that Belle pregnant, you never know. So much took place in the first Season, I hope it won't get boring with the new story line. Going to try hard to find out anything about Season 2. So 13 episodes in Season 1, unlike tfw and her 4-6 shows being called a Season.
@KIAT the person who tweeted seeing Kate at LV airport also said that there was NO film crew with Kate.So you could be right.Otherwise,why is Kate in Vegas with the kids on school days?I highly doubt it was to see family since 2 of her siblings came out and said they don't talk to Kate and i don't believe she talks to the other 2 siblings.Even though no one knows anything about the other 2.
@KIAT the person who tweeted seeing Kate at LV airport also said that there was NO film crew with Kate.So you could be right.Otherwise,why is Kate in Vegas with the kids on school days?
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Just because there was no film crew at the airport doesn't necessarily mean that they weren't filming on location or perhaps took another flight. Maybe they didn't film at the airport. I believe that Kate has family or friends in Wyoming. She said in an episode that they came to Berks to visit or stay with the kids and helped to babysit.
We don't know if she was in Vegas, but why would someone tweet that she was seen? It just seems strange that a person would make up something like that.
Is it a coincidence that every time Kate disappears, Milo goes away, too? It happens nearly every time. She's a sneaky tweeter. Could she go MIA just to let people guess as to her whereabouts, hoping they believe that she is with Kate?
All I can say with confidence is that Katie Irene Gosselin does NOT pay for airfare for ten or more people out of her own pocket. So I think everyone can agree that they were being filmed somewhere. LV airport could have been a stopover, or they were filming in that area. I don't quite know what is actually family filming worthy IN Las Vegas proper. Maybe TLC is doing a crossover episode with Kody Brown and his thirty wives. lol
IF they did go to the SB, I agree they weren't being filmed inside. But the trip itself would have been.
And how convenient that Valentine's Day falls on a weekend this year. I imagine that signals a third filming weekend in a row.
Kate in ANY airport with 8 kids? Alone? No mention of Mr. Road Manager or Ms. BFFdujour? How ever did Kate manage? I bet she was tons of fun to be around. "Nagging" wouldn't be the worst of it, ya think?
fidosmommy said... 6 Kate in ANY airport with 8 kids? Alone? No mention of Mr. Road Manager or Ms. BFFdujour? How ever did Kate manage? I bet she was tons of fun to be around. "Nagging" wouldn't be the worst of it, ya think?
******* Kate can't manage herself alone when traveling, so she had her usual entourage if in LV.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 103 Localyocul (#101), funny how the mother of 8, with 6 premature babies, managed to make and shop an audition tape. But now she's got 8 kids in school all day and can't make 2 minutes to say hello to her fans? ******* She wasn't doing any of that, Jon was. On someone else's time too. Btw this post keeps not getting posted so please stop censoring for no reason.
Imagine how the Gosselin kids' lives would be impacted if something were to happen to their dad. It wouldn't bode well for their feelings toward their mother in the future. All the missed opportunities…
Eight is More Than Enough said... 8 FlimsyFlamsy said... 103 Localyocul (#101), funny how the mother of 8, with 6 premature babies, managed to make and shop an audition tape. But now she's got 8 kids in school all day and can't make 2 minutes to say hello to her fans? ******* She wasn't doing any of that, Jon was. On someone else's time too. Btw this post keeps not getting posted so please stop censoring for no reason.
@Rainbowsandunicorns I still don't believe she talks to the 2 other siblings that we know nothing about.Its very hypocritical of Kate to claim that she wants to protect their privacy and yet this is the same woman who won't protect her children's privacy.From talking about the kids problems and she also discussed about the kids underwear.If thats not exposing their privacy i don't know what is.As far as Milo goes,i don't think her disappearing proves anything about whether she is or isn't who she says she is.
I still don't believe she talks to the 2 other siblings that we know nothing about.Its very hypocritical of Kate to claim that she wants to protect their privacy and yet this is the same woman who won't protect her children's privacy.
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Did someone say that she is on speaking terms with her siblings? If you are referring to post #4, rainbows pointed out that Kate had mentioned that she has friends or family in Wyoming or somewhere in that part of the country. She stated that in an episode.
As for Milo, nobody said anything about Milo being this or that, only that Milo has historically disappeared when Kate does.
She wasn't doing any of that, Jon was. On someone else's time too. Btw this post keeps not getting posted so please stop censoring for no reason.
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It's been my experience that comments such as this are rarely censored. I've had to re-post on a few occasions, but not because they were rejected but because they got lost in the shuffle or blogger ate them.
Of course Kate shopped around to find a network willing to sign them. It's all in Robert's book.
Kate and Jon were in cahoots in shopping the babies. It was only when Kate's head blew up, Steve entered the picture, and Jon got shoved aside that he had a change of heart. Jon was not a saint in any of this. Kate drove it, Jon went along for the ride. Really tired of the Jon defending.
Historically, Milo disappears on Twitter in response to Kate's silence on Twitter. She must have some Twitter alert set up linked to Kate's Twitter. Milo is only on Twitter to respond to Kate's friends and enemies on Twitter. This person has an uninteresting life and no friends except for following Kate Gosselin. That's my theory.
Who is this Andrea in Wyoming? If Kate and family went to visit, there is more to it than just a vacation with the kids. Something is up. Odd time to visit out West. Kate NEVER flies with those kids as the ONLY adult. NEVER. There is always a nanny or two and/or Steve.
I will continue to defend Jon. Nothing happens in a vacuum. Jon didn't want to have a 3rd child. He was in his 20's. Kate deceived him about the pregnancy, I believe she didn't give him all the facts. Then, again young Dad in his 20's he faces 6 new babies. Will they be healthy? Kate in his ear, he is convinced they will need help. The media swarm, the attention feels good to this young man central Pa facing fatherhood to 8 children. The Governor meets you, all of it. Yes, sure a couple of shows, pay for the many needs of such a large immediate family. Again, things happening bit by bit, day after day...nagging wife always in his head. There are a couple of other multiple birth families here in PA still receiving assistance, discounted housing, local grocery discounts and donations too. I think Steve was certainly a factor in the split and perhaps pushed Jon to making public his desire to stop the circus, but I wholeheartedly believe that his doubts and awareness, even his expressed concerns to Kate about slowing down, returning to any hope of normal began long before.
TLC stinks said... 14 Kate and Jon were in cahoots in shopping the babies. It was only when Kate's head blew up, Steve entered the picture, and Jon got shoved aside that he had a change of heart. Jon was not a saint in any of this. Kate drove it, Jon went along for the ride. Really tired of the Jon defending. February 10, 2016 at 4:46 AM ***** J+K were both selling those kids and the fakery of their lives. From very early on, they were a "tv family" and NOT "just a family that happens to be on tv". They went from using the kids for donations and freebies to planning seasons full of fake-ass episodes to sell their show and make it rain money.
Maybe this Andrea who's been filmed as the current nanny is from the very good friends who live in Wyoming? Which would pretty much confirm that she's a live-in at Kate's.
OT: I have friends traveling today. They will lay over in an airport and no one will notice. They are leaving -3 degree windchill and arriving in sunny 80 degree Austin. I am excited that I will be spending the next few days with people I love.
Such is the life of an ordinary person who isn't selling themselves on TV.
Didn't TFW go to Montana or Wyoming for Thanksgiving? I had wondered then if maybe she was getting some surgical enhancements done and needed some recovery time away from PA, while these friends took care of the kids.
If TLC has given TFW some new episodes, that might've inspired her to get some more work done, and provided the money to pay for it. Pure speculation!
Oh, forgot about that post in 2011. I thought there was speculation about friends that moved out west because that was her explanation as to who watched the kids while she did CA in NY. The friend/s came to PA to watch the kids for weeks. Can't believe anything she says but she's been going to WY for years. She likes warm weather so an odd place to take a short vacay this time of year. And taking the kids along if it is a love nest with Steve doesn't make sense either although she'll do anything to keep the kids from Jon.
My good friend lives in Sheridan and I didn't realize this until I visited but Wyoming is the new playground for the rich and famous. I saw more Bentleys there then I ever saw in LA. I bet Kate loves that.
Dmasy said... 22 OT: I have friends traveling today. They will lay over in an airport and no one will notice. They are leaving -3 degree windchill and arriving in sunny 80 degree Austin. I am excited that I will be spending the next few days with people I love. ********* They and you are far richer than Kate will ever be. I'd never want to be famous. If having more money meant that I'd be famous (or infamous), I'd turn it down in a heartbeat.
In Jackson Hole Wyoming...have always wanted to visit! Love it! SOO georgous! Dreams of kayaking Snake River someday..Scenery to make u cry!
A poster said in 2011: Clarks Fork Guest Ranch in Wyoming. It is SO beaautiful! Gorgeous country. Took my breath away. Does that witch realize what a dream the kids are experiencing! I could look at those mountains all day. Heaven on earth, l swear. What a beautiful country America is..... sigh
I could not find the context of this post as to whether Kate was sighted there or a rumor, but I bet wherever she us, it's not staying with friends but at some five star resort. When it comes to pampering, she'll cough up the dough.
Occasionally it feels like TLC sets up "reward" trips after filming.
Remember she went to Vegas after the road trip out west? They were spotted in a hotel. It was never filmed or if it was filmed it was never an episode. There was also evidence there was a lot of unfilmed down time in Alaska, staying in a lodge, etc., that was never filmed.
I always thought that was the "bribe" to the kids. Go alone with filming for a couple weeks and you'll get to swim in the pool and hot tub and eat ice-cream, etc.
Anyway, I wonder if this Vegas thing is one of those--a non-filmed bribe for the many months of filming they just went through.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 28 Occasionally it feels like TLC sets up "reward" trips after filming. ******* Yes. Poor Ashley had to bail before she got the carrot at the end of the stick in Vegas! Kate and Steve reportedly took off for awhile, leaving the kids behind in Alaska. Kate and Steve decompressed in NYC after their first trip filming in Australia. Do folks realize how loaded this woman is?
I think those friends were in Montana but Kate did go to a ranch in Wyo. It was Red Reflet Ranch (a working cattle ranch and luxurious resort)
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I think I remember once unfilmed but maybe filmed once also. It has its own airport and able to rent out the whole place for a group. Very pricey. The simple one I went to years ago only charges 1300 for a week now. This Red Reflet charges almost $4000 with discounts for children.
Gosh, if filming is fun fun fun, why does the family need a reward when it's done? Maybe because it's only fun for one member of the family? The only one who doesn't really have anything else to do?
@Sheepless in seattle (12) My point was that i don't think she's in Wyoming to visit family.I don't think its family cause we know she's not on speaking terms with Kevin or Kendra.But we don't know anything about Christen or Clairissa and i was also saying that i don't believe Kate's hypocritical statement that she doesn't want to show them or talk about them cause she wants to protect their privacy when she won't protect her children's privacy.
Its my understanding that Andrea's family is in Montana (not Wyoming); she is Carla's niece, Ashley's cousin. She now lives back in PA and, I believe but don't know for a fact, may be TFW's live in nanny/helper/whatever. TFW said "a family from Montana" stayed with the kids during her Celebrity Apprentice time. I think she also said they are like family to them because the kids have known them for a long time. So its not any of TFW's family out west; from what I see (it can be found on Facebook), all 3 of her sisters and her brother live in PA; one sister used to live elsewhere (in Ohio I think) but now lives back in PA. If the sighting is true, my thoughts are they were headed to somewhere warm; I just don't see TFW heading somewhere colder than PA at this time of year. Just my feeling on that.
I can see TLC doing (yet another) trip to Las Vegas. There's Cirque and other shows, pools, the Hoover Dam (sooooo educational dontcha know), animal and aquatic attractions, casinos with rides. Plenty to fill a few episodes. Kate could hook it up with a stop in CA. My boom scenario is S. Korea ;-)
My point was that i don't think she's in Wyoming to visit family.I don't think its family cause we know she's not on speaking terms with Kevin or Kendra.But we don't know anything about Christen or Clairissa and i was also saying that i don't believe
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Sheepless didn't say that it necessarily was family. I don't remember exactly if Kate said it was family, or just friends from Wyoming who came to stay with the children. I remember, though, that she said they knew someone in that area and they flew in to babysit the kids.
I guess I'm just an old fuddy-duddy, because I can't get used to the fact that Las Vegas has tried to become "family friendly" over the years, what with all the crime and prostitution that abounds there. It isn't Disney World for sure. lol
PatK @ 40 - I guess I'm an old fuddy-duddy too because I don't think of LV as child friendly although I have to admit it's been close to forty years since I've visited. The only attraction I can think of in that area worthy of interest to children would be Hoover Dam. I can't see TFW taking the family there unless of course it's on TLC's dime - and come to think of it that's the only way she does travel.
I just don't see TFW heading somewhere colder than PA at this time of year. Just my feeling on that.
We're expecting an arctic blast, coldest weather of the season with possible windchills of twenty below this weekend. I imagine that any place will be warmer than PA!
OT for AuntieAnn...thanks for reporting on your weekend meal! I was thinking of you when I was making my pig stomach. I am glad you enjoyed it. I forgot to tell you that I usually put in some extra ham so I have some left over for ham and split pea soup, or ham and bean soup!
Now...what to do with that lonely, neglected beef heart you have in your freezer! I'll check for my recipe!
The more I think about it, the more I doubt it was Kate seen in the LV airport. We know they filmed at Costco and Target the weekend before. That would make sense preparing for a SB party at the compound, less so for preparing for a trip. I think Kate was at home filming this weekend.
TFW herself talked about rewarding the kids for filming. Remember the fall photo shoot wearing heavy sweaters in the hot sun? Anyone could see that the children were unhappy. Then they got those backpacks with treats in them, and TFW said something about giving them rewards, or did she say bribes, for doing those things. And wasn't that when they all danced to "Footloose," and something was said about them needing to let off steam after all that work?
Everything we say here ticks them off, yet they keep coming back to read. Guess they just can't quit us.
The more I think about it, the more I doubt it was Kate seen in the LV airport. We know they filmed at Costco and Target the weekend before. That would make sense preparing for a SB party at the compound, less so for preparing for a trip. I think Kate was at home filming this weekend.
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Maybe. Maybe not.
I used to be a lot more skeptical but believe it or not a heck of a lot of these sightings turn out to be true.
One thing that lends credibilty is if the account doesn't look like a sock. Has been on twitter awhile, never mentioned Kate before, looks like a real person, maybe even lives in the area they are claiming to have seen Kate or had tweets prior indicating they were in the area. How does this account measure up?
The thing is, twitter is full of true celeb sightings just becasue it's so ubiquitous. Kate's just one of them. If you're out and about and a celeb, there's a good chance someone will tweet about it.
I remember when Mady wanted to go somewhere and Kate told her to just name the place. Mady said, "San Diego," and Kate said, "SOLD." I don't know if that episode was filmed, but how many mothers out there can just say, yes, we're off and running to California, you got a deal...and off they went.
It's a shame that the kids will think that's how life works. You just say you want to go somewhere, you can take off school, and just up and leave. I am afraid there will be some rude awakenings in the years to come. Entitlement comes with a price and it's not all at bargain basement discounts.
The more I think about it, the more I doubt it was Kate seen in the LV airport. We know they filmed at Costco and Target the weekend before. That would make sense preparing for a SB party at the compound, less so for preparing for a trip. I think Kate was at home filming this weekend.
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Well, if they were home, wouldn't we have seen those wonderful pictures of the super Super Bowl spread, the kids lined up, Kate bragging about the party, ad nauseam? Then again, maybe not, if the whole thing is a big surprise for an episode.
If they were in Vegas, then Milo's tweet about the perfect SB party with Vann the Mann was way off base and Kate never told her of their plans to go out West.
If there were a party at home, we'll find out this summer! They will be shoveling snow and building snowmen on July 4. The episodes are so timely.
TLC (27): "Does that witch realize what a dream the kids are experiencing! I could look at those mountains all day. Heaven on earth, l swear. What a beautiful country America is..... sigh"
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According to Kate, it's all wasted space, except, maybe for FDR on Mt. Rushmore.
Lynne In RI said... 47 I remember when Mady wanted to go somewhere and Kate told her to just name the place. Mady said, "San Diego," and Kate said, "SOLD." I don't know if that episode was filmed, but how many mothers out there can just say, yes, we're off and running to California, you got a deal...and off they went. ****** I'm pretty sure that was faked. Kate and Steve needed a cover story and I think it's possible some more cosmetic work was done. There were reports of those two lovebirds well, looking like lovebirds.
There were reports of those two lovebirds well, looking like lovebirds.
Yep. Remember that photo of them on their reward trip to Las Vegas? Sitting at some show, drinks on the table, entirely too comfortable with each other?
She didn't tweet about it until someone busted her with a photo.
Yep. Remember that photo of them on their reward trip to Las Vegas? Sitting at some show, drinks on the table, entirely too comfortable with each other? **** That was just Kate treating herself to a LV getaway with Steve. I think for her Bday. Yup she's always either in her kitchen or at the grocery story. Wouldn't catch a glimpse of her anywhere else!
Tucker's Mom (#52), yes, TFW did have a getaway in LV with Steve. Hmmm...dinner with another adult? I thought she never has that? Did she ask Steve if she could cut his meat?
FlimsyFlamsy said... 54 Tucker's Mom (#52), yes, TFW did have a getaway in LV with Steve. Hmmm...dinner with another adult? I thought she never has that? Did she ask Steve if she could cut his meat? February 10, 2016 at 5:25 PM ******* Does it occur to any fans (I know, another stupid question!) that it's incredibly odd for Kate to not have any adult nights with friends? With 8, count em, 8 kids, how many parents would you interact with on a regular basis? No moms night out ever? No book club? Nothing?
Boy, I remember that photo! She and Steve were at a comedy show and Kate was caught in that picture laughing with her big horsey mouth. Yeaaaah, that was a business dinner, people. Maybe this is a pre-birthday getaway, one that is not being filmed? Las Vegas would be a difficult place to do filming discreetly with so many tourists taking photos. I believe she is definitely gone because of her Twitter silence.
TFW and Steve went to Las Vegas for the opening of Brad Garrett's comedy club and that's where the picture of them not on a date was taken. They were both braying like a couple of mules in the picture and it didn't look like they were conducting a business meeting. I think the trip may have been around her birthday.
Book club? LOL! She still has Nicole's book on her nightstand. Wasn't it in the fall of 2013 that Kate promised to read it? I guess she's a really slow reader. I wonder if she dusts around it! I noticed that Nicole removed the photo of herself and Kate on her twitter and Kate has been replaced by two other celebrities as her favorite people!
Are the other TLC reality shows as wrong-season as Kate's? We get back to school in Dec and probably snow in June. Does this happen with any little people or Duggars or sister wives? I'm curious if it's because they never know when she'll air as a fill in or if her shows need much more editing time to make them work.
If she's out of PA somewhere,how come there haven't been anymore people claiming to have spot her and the kids somewhere?Surely someone would of said they saw her.Unless maybe she's in an area where no one cares about her.I still find it funny how the paps could care less about her now.
Yes, other shows are seasonally confused. I caught a glimpse of the Little Couple and they were doing summery things. I imagine anywhere between 3 and 6 months is the norm between filming and airing.
She at one point indicated she was a regular church goer.
So no MOPs ever? No women's bible study? No women's ministry? No church retreats to the Poconos to go read Beth Moore books? ---------------------- I had no idea what an MOP is, so I looked it up on acronym finder. I couldn't find anything church-related, but I did find "money over personality". Certainly Kate has that!
I did another search for "church group mops" and came up with a church group called MOPS, mothers of preschoolers. Is that what you meant, admin. Cause I don't think Kate exactly qualifies, no matter how much she tries to keep her kids "little".
Kate read? Jon said she didn't even keep up with current events. The only book I recall her saying she read was Fifty Shades of Grey' lol ( well other than her 'bestsellers') Lol
Betsy said... 65 Kate read? Jon said she didn't even keep up with current events. The only book I recall her saying she read was Fifty Shades of Grey' lol ( well other than her 'bestsellers') Lol **** Of course, but I figured maybe she'd go for the box o'wine.
Here are pictures of the Grand Opening of Brad Garrett's Comedy Club. Even Ray Romano came and did a set. Who is that woman that is sitting right next to TFW? Is she at the other table or sitting close to her? Hmm... She doesn't allow the unwashed masses to sit next to her.
She doesn't see people. Unless they are rich and she can use them and spit them out.
I did another search for "church group mops" and came up with a church group called MOPS, mothers of preschoolers. Is that what you meant, admin. Cause I don't think Kate exactly qualifies, no matter how much she tries to keep her kids "little".
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It's Mothers of Preschoolers, it's a very popular church group. I was asking why she was never in something like MOPs. She wouldn't qualify anymore, but she certainly qualified back in the day.
jamezvader, I am totally not surprised no one else has tweeted or instagramed anything. It's nor unusual. She is a D Lister and really not on the radar any longer.
For those on the blog that were keeping up with a murder case from last year, there is an update.
Joyce Garrard, the grandmother who forced her little granddaughter, Savannah Hardin, to run in the heat of the day for hours and carry 15 lbs. of firewood was convicted last March for her death.
This was her punishment for eating a chocolate candy bar on the school bus because she was hungry.
She was sentenced to life in prison, without parole.
Yesterday her attorney said that Garrard was Brain Dead and on a ventilator. She had a massive heart attack. This was Monday. On the news last night, her daughter came out and said, No, she is not brain dead.
Savannah's step-mother, who was pregnant, refused to even try to stop the grandmother. Her trial starts later this year. I really hope she gets life in prison without parole. She deserves it.
The rock star County DA who prosecuted the case, a beloved member of the community, died 4 months after convicting Garrard with a 8 year battle of cancer at 49 years old.
Admin (#66), I can't picture TFW mingling with other moms at church unless cameras were rolling, or they'd just handed her $20 for a family photo (cash only, please!!!!!!).
There are lots of mom groups and local connections that Kate could avail herself of, but I think she's consumed with her PR, the show, Steve and Deanna. You have to make yourself available and committed to any regular group, and that's not Kate. Sure, she'll pal around with the locals for the camera, or when she's getting her fix spending money and getting pampered, but just to be there for others when she's not the center of it all? No way.
You have to make yourself available and committed to any regular group, and that's not Kate.
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Yes, and groups are going to expect give and take. You can't just show up and take take take like is Kate's usual M.O.
Eventually they'll want you to volunteer, to come early and help set up, to join a committee, to organize an event. To pay dues or go pick up some things they need at the store. To put together a slide show or a music play list.
Of course normal people find such groups rewarding and don't think about it in terms of a fixed pie.
Are the other TLC reality shows as wrong-season as Kate's? We get back to school in Dec and probably snow in June. Does this happen with any little people or Duggars or sister wives? I'm curious if it's because they never know when she'll air as a fill in or if her shows need much more editing time to make them work.
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So no MOPs ever? No women's bible study? No women's ministry? No church retreats to the Poconos to go read Beth Moore books?
It's odd, but there's a lot the fans overlook.
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That's for sure. Kate is the Milli Vanilli of motherhood. The sheep have given her the Mother of the Century award even though she's been lip-syncing the role of 'mother' for fifteen years. They're blind to the glaring truth that this woman is a big time scam artist.
I did find a recipe online for stuffed heart if you can't find yours. I might make it for Valentine's Day or is that living dangerously?
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Well, it is "heart", so it fits in with the theme of the day!
I think that the recipe is in one of my Mennonite cookbooks. I'll look later today and report back tonight! I don't make it on a regular basis, but now I am hungry for some.
Yes, and groups are going to expect give and take. You can't just show up and take take take like is Kate's usual M.O.
Eventually they'll want you to volunteer, to come early and help set up, to join a committee, to organize an event. To pay dues or go pick up some things they need at the store. To put together a slide show or a music play list.
Of course normal people find such groups rewarding and don't think about it in terms of a fixed pie.
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Not only that, but her attention span is so pathetic that she would be tired of it in no time flat. She just flits from one thing to another. She can't seem to find anything that interests her for any period of time...except filming.
So online there is a pdf of the 2013-2014 school handbook. It says excused absences are for illness, family emergencies, medical appointments, religious observance or significant family milestone. Unexcused absence are extended FAMILY VACATIONS or anything that does fall into the excused category. Lower and Middle School students who accrue more than ten unexcused absences in one trimester are required, based upon recommendation, to use a parent paid tutor to make up work. Teachers are not required to help students make up their work.
An upper school student who receives a total of 15 absences (excused or unexcused) for the school year risks not getting academic credit.
So unless there is some understanding between herself and the school because the kids work, she must be feeling time constraints on continued filming. If my child went there and a family was getting preferential treatment regarding absences, I'd be pissed. All students should be treated equally.
PA Dutch Mom (#79), remember TFW tweeting about some field trip being boring? And also tweeting in the middle of a parents' meeting at school? Or are we continuing to make things up out of whole cloth just to make the world's bestest mommy look bad?
Interesting tidbits. Under oath, TLC admitted the Gosselin children received no payment for appearances in Jon and Kate Plus 8. For Kate Plus 8, payment was $700,000, $500,000 to Kate and $200,000 to the kids ($25,000 each).
The PA law did not require Coogan accounts. Although there is a trust and the kids receive 15% of the gross proceeds until age 18, Kate can withdraw money from their trust accounts because the law is so broad. It says the 15% must be deposited into the trust BUT money can be WITHDRAWN for THEIR SAFETY, EDUCATION, HEALTH OR WELFARE. Incredibly, the trust funds are worthless as far as protecting the kids' earnings. The trust fund is simply an account used to pay for the current expenses of raising the kids.
Kate makes far less now with eight episodes at $40,000 each. $380,000 for 2016. With an income hit of just over 50%, I believe there will be little money left in those trust accounts when the kids turn 18. I don't believe Jon knows anything about what is going on with the children's trust so he should not make blanket statements that the kids are financially set.
Flimsy, possibly. We have no idea as to what school activities she participates in so yes, you can't just assume she washes her hands of anything school related. However, If she found a field trip or a parents' meeting boring and had the balls to Tweet the field trip was boring, then it does leave the impression she is not that involved. Field trips are anything but boring, IMO, for the chaperones. Been there, done that.
I see everything odd about someone who has almost no interaction with the rest of society, and even her own family. I find it very, very odd. As far as we can tell she stays home, goes to Target, tweets, and films.
Maybe there is something wrong with her that explains this behavior. Lack of involvement in church is but one example of a huge lack of involvement in normal social interactions in general.
Standing on its own, of course lack of church involvement is not odd--but people who don't do that find social interactions elsewhere. But you want to look at it in a vacuum, and that's not taking into account the big picture, which is misleading.
TLC stinks, I totally agree with you. If I had my kids there and other kids were getting preferential treatment I would be furious too.
She doesn't realize how bad she is shafting her kids like this. There is no telling how many days of school they have missed. And if TFW has to get a tutor, guess who pays for it? Yep. TLC.
TLC's dime can stretch to pay for anything that will help them make millions even if it is morally unethical to do so!
What is "odd" is the family estrangement. We know what happened with her brother and I suspect others were not onboard with the marketing of the kids either.
I also think deep down she is an introvert and that could explain her social awkwardness and lack of interests other than filming. She has a very, very small social circle. What is particularly maddening is that strangers are called crew daddies, aunts and uncles. These people are in it for themselves; they are all doing a job to get paid.
Oops. Math wrong. She made $320,000 before taxes for those 8 shows. Could you live with a 50% pay cut? With her expenses, she has got to be sucking money out of the kids' trust.
I don't believe Jon knows anything about what is going on with the children's trust so he should not make blanket statements that the kids are financially set. ****** IIRC, Jon stated that he put money into irrevocable trusts for each of the kids for college, and they're set for college funds. As far as what Kate's doing with the monies earned from the shows, he probably has no idea. My impression, vis a vis Jon, is that he took a huge chunk of HIS money earned through the show and set up funds.
Those pictures of Kate and Steve in Vegas having a blast at Brad Garrets show- they were dressed to the nines (Kate's new tatas on display front and center), all cozy together, doing nothing that involves business, Steve with no wedding ring. They look for all the world, like a very happy couple.
I truly don't know how Gina does it and can't fathom that they're still married. You'd have to be one disinterested wife to live like that.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 84 I don't see anything "odd" about that.
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I see everything odd about someone who has almost no interaction with the rest of society, and even her own family. ******* According to Kate (to the incontrovertible evidence otherwise), she doesn't socialize or go out unless she goes to the grocery store and she doesn't eat with adults ever. That's way odd.
I do not believe TLC is doing a yearly contract with Kate. I bet anything there was a three year contract in place to film specials each season. Remember, the specials or short seasons started in June, 2014. I cannot imagine a corporation doing a year-to-year contract with all the time and cost of production. I bet we see her until 2017. Of course, if she fails to draw eyeballs, she can be canceled.
Why wouldn't Jon know about the children's trust especially if he was involved in setting it up? He must have been since he and Kate must have had to do the paperwork for it. A 5 year old can't sign off on that.
Tucker, that's what Jon said so that money in the trust he set up is safe. Frankly, I wonder if he did it voluntarily or it was part of some settlement. The money that is going into the trust set up by TLC, per PA law, is what Kate controls. Why would she have to disclose to Jon what is in those accounts?
@TLC stinks (86) We know what happened to Kevin and Kendra.They spoke out and got harassed by the fans.The other 2 siblings (Christen or Clairissa)i don't think anyone knows anything about those 2.The Kate fans insist these are the 2 siblings Kate talks to but i have doubts.Cause like i said before i don't believe Kate's BS that she wants to protect their privacy(she won't even protect her children's privacy).Here's the article of Kendra speaking out http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2546705/Kate-Gosselins-family-friends-reveal-trail-hurt-left-pursuit-celebrity.html
The money that is going into the trust set up by TLC, per PA law, is what Kate controls. Why would she have to disclose to Jon what is in those accounts? February 11, 2016 at 12:59 PM ****** I can't imagine she does nor should. It's my guess that Kate draws out of the kids' accounts to support them, and she's got an enormous nest egg for her retirement once the pimping is done for good.
College costs are rising. According to the College Board, a moderate in-state college now averages $24,000 per academic year. No telling if that trust Jon set up will cover 4 years of college for each tup when they reach 18. The twins may be ok. And some will skip college. I bet there won't be a penny coming from Kate unless there is filming. Hopefully Jon got decent advice on setting up the trust.
Admin (#84), for me, the church thing is very significant because she and Jon absolutely sold themselves as Christians. They went to churches across the country with their hands out, talking about faith and blessings. They told us their daughters' middle names were the fruits of the spirit. They were closing on a new house while taking money from people who thought this poor young couple was in desperate need. We've seen their speaking engagement contracts and requirements. It smacks of hypocrisy to me to market yourself as people of faith, and then completely abandon that "angle" once your pockets are lined. And remember, TFW herself said she made her life our business, and that's why I am commenting.
College costs are rising. According to the College Board, a moderate in-state college now averages $24,000 per academic year
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That includes room and board. They can commute to Millersville University (state university) for less than $10,000 per year, excellent education, reasonable tuition costs, much less expensive than a private college. They could live off-campus as many kids do. Of course, commuting from home would mean remaining with her for an additional four years until they can totally break free.
There is still time for them to figure all of that out. Tech schools and HACC is always an option.
TLC stinks (#86), I'm not sure I'm convinced TFW is an introvert. That word connotes a degree of shyness and insecurity, which I don't think are in her. I think she's as arrogant as they come, and I read her behavior as standoffish. We've all seen her light up in front of celebrities. I don't think a true introvert could turn it on and off like that. And remember her twirling at Disney World like a princess, and asking Jon if the camera was on? She's no wallflower.
I do think it's significant that the faith Kate claimed was so very important to her appears to be gone now. Either she was lying then or she has had a severe crisis of faith that just never happened to come up in a show which shows their whole lives. I personally think it's the former. If she really had that deep faith, it would have hurt very deeply to lose it. We have seen no indication of that. If she wanted to, she could go to church. If she acted like a normal person, the others there would treat her like a normal person. There wouldn't be chaos. She could put the kids in Sunday School and join a Thursday morning Bible study group. But she doesn't even go on Christmas and Easter any more.
It is very odd that she appears to have no activities in her life. Either for herself or her children. Or even hobbies like knitting or painting.
Kate used Jesus/God just as she does everything else. He/She/It was there to grant her materialistic prayers and give her an in to a another group she could use. I don't know Jon's feelings on religion, but it never felt like they were very deep or thought out. Like most of his life.
Tucker's Mom said... 95 I can't imagine she does nor should. It's my guess that Kate draws out of the kids' accounts to support them, and she's got an enormous nest egg for her retirement once the pimping is done for good. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I can see her doing it too.
Here is your paltry little trust fund after I spent most of it on you. The other money is "Mine all Mine". It was her cut of the show, her books, her speeches, her house(which I don't believe she will let the kids have), her grifting, her cars, her work at settling contracts, her production position, her endorsements for products...
I am glad they get the 15% but really feel they deserved more. If it had been a family show with only one kid that kid would have gotten the whole 15% by themself. Also most of it should have been put away and kept from Kate's greedy hands.
I wonder if there is any chance that some kids or all kids could sue and get part of her money afterwards if they want it. I sure hope so.
I believe the house is in a trust, so the only way the kids get it is when she croaks, if they are the ones to inherit per her will. Putting it in a trust avoids probate. Lovely property but it'll never appreciate much given the location.
Aaack...stuffed beef heart !! (Not that I can actually remember what it tastes like. )
This is a meal my siblings & I use to illustrate the meals our French Canadian mother used to spring on us - when we least expected it. Horse meat was another "surprise" meal - served only once mind you. She couldn't stand the "not Black Beauty !!!! " carry on.
Flimsy, you aren't imagining it. Kate tweeted that a field trip was boring. I can't remember which one it was, but it was a nature hike, maybe to Kelly's Run down in Holtwood. It is anything but boring. I recall laughing at the time, thinking about her negotiating the terrain in heels! Jon did a field trip with the kids to a quirky countryside and enjoyed it, with no complaining.
She did indeed tweet during a parent program at school designed for parents to get a feel of their kids' various classes. If memory serves me, I think she was in the Spanish class at the time. Don't quote me on that, however!
Regarding school absences in US, there may be other consequences not outlined in the handbook, such as eligibility for taking AP courses.
AuntieAnn, I checked my Mennonite Cookbook and it's not in there, but here is the one closest to the way I make mine. If the spirit moves me, I will add some roasted chestnuts and some apples to the mix. I do have the recipe for pig's stomach, if you are so inclined to make it! LOL! Do you need to know what to do with tripe or chow-chow?
Ingrid said... 103 Tucker's Mom said... 95 I can't imagine she does nor should. It's my guess that Kate draws out of the kids' accounts to support them, and she's got an enormous nest egg for her retirement once the pimping is done for good. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I can see her doing it too.
Here is your paltry little trust fund after I spent most of it on you. The other money is "Mine all Mine". It was her cut of the show, her books, her speeches, her house(which I don't believe she will let the kids have), her grifting, her cars, her work at settling contracts, her production position, her endorsements for products... ******* Didn't she and Jon refuse to spend their own money on the kids and instead said that the sextuplets were owed state money? If I remember that money wasn't really theirs either because it was all from Jon's dad but was put aside, tens of thousands they wouldn't spend, instead wanted the Pennsylvania to pay.
According to her journal, praying was all about being rewarded with material things. She is a fraud and cheated the church congregations. She played the Christian card and the churches fell for it because she insisted she would not consider selective abortion. It was not about belief; it was about having as many multiples as she could carry. That was the plan all along.
Didn't she and Jon refuse to spend their own money on the kids and instead said that the sextuplets were owed state money? If I remember that money wasn't really theirs either because it was all from Jon's dad but was put aside, tens of thousands they wouldn't spend, instead wanted the Pennsylvania to pay.
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Kate made a plea to the state to continue care for the six beyond the year that they already had gotten, claiming that she couldn't adequately care for them. She said that medical science made multiple births possible, so society should provide care for them. The state ruled against them.
“The majority of what we made, I personally took and put in a college fund for [the kids] because they will go to college,” Kate herself said in late 2013. “So I use coupons, we don’t wear the top brands. Those things to me really aren’t overly important, but college, school and their house, where they live is important.”
Ingrid said... I am glad they get the 15% but really feel they deserved more. If it had been a family show with only one kid that kid would have gotten the whole 15% by themself. ------------------------------------------------------------------- My understanding is the children each earn a certain amount per episode, and whatever the amount is, 15% of that figure is put at in a trust for them. That would be 15% EACH child. So if each child earns $10,000 per episode then $1500 of it is put in a trust for them. That would be $80,000 total earned and $12,000 put in trust. I don't know where the other 85% of each child's earnings go. Maybe a savings account? Or maybe it's all put in the trust etc. but the law only says 15% of their earnings must go in a trust. And of that 15% in the trust, Kate can use it towards expenses to raise them. That's MY understanding of it. Anyone else know otherwise? Admin? And what happens to the other 85% earned by each child? Can they buy a car or whatever else they want with it? Since they earned it?
Coogan's Law In January 1, 2000, changes in California law affirmed that earnings by minors in the entertainment industry are the property of the minor, not their parents. Since a minor cannot legally control their own money, California Law governs their earnings and creates a fiduciary relationship between the parent and the child. This change in California law also requires that 15% of all minors’ earnings must be set aside in a blocked trust account commonly known as a Coogan Account.
Coolants Law: NLJ: That law was revised again in 2000. Why? B.S.: It got changed for a few reasons. One, the law did not apply to contracts with minors that weren't court approved. A lot more weren't court approved than were court approved — that's just a gut feeling. And the other reason was to make it a fixed percentage, rather than discretionary percentage. And so the fixed percentage has now become 15%. The issue that really attracted my interest was the change to make the money belong to the minor. The child actor has ownership of all of their earnings and 15% of those earnings are going to be put into a blocked Coogan account. Before the amendment, which was effective on Jan. 1, 2000, the child's money belonged to the mom and dad. All of it belonged to Mom and Dad. NLJ: Have those changes improved things for child actors? B.S.: There was a hole left in the law, and the hole is that if parents do nothing, then the other 85% of the money isn't being protected. There's nobody to make sure that the money gets used in the best interest of the child. So, responsible parents aren't the issue. The problems are irresponsible parents. And the problem has been irresponsible parents since Jackie Coogan's parents ripped him off. NLJ: Can you give me an example? B.S.: I handled a case for one child. She came to me because the producers and the studio were concerned about how her parents were behaving on the set because it was disturbing the production. And Mom and Dad were handling the child's money and living very well with it. I set up a guardianship with the child with a third party as the guardian. This woman was 16 years old at the time. And we got the money put aside for her. Unfortunately, during the time her parents were handling her money, they had never paid income taxes on the child's behalf. So when she turned 18, and she was now entitled to all this money, it came with a price tag because the IRS and the [California] Franchise Tax Board both came after her for the taxes for all the years she had been a child actress, and we worked out the best deal we could. They also had Coogan accounts, but the Coogan accounts that were there for her benefit were wiped out by the taxes. NLJ: Do you hear a lot about irresponsible parents of child actors? B.S.: Anecdotally, I'd say no, I don't hear a whole lot of stories about parents misusing their money. NLJ: Most people are familiar with Coleman's story. How often do these disputes end up in court? B.S.: It doesn't go to court because nine times out of 10 children don't sue their parents for abusing them — whether it's physical abuse or any kind of abuse, including financial abuse.
"There was a notable multiple birth in Chester County in October 2001, when Jeffrey and Jennifer Brown of Honey Brook had quintuplets in a Montgomery County hospital. They also have a daughter."
I never heard of these people..I wonder if they still live in Honey Brook, and how they have gotten the kids to 14 without a reality show...
Rep Murt's Bill: Last year, Murt’s investigation into child labor in reality TV revealed a state law so antiquated that children under 7 cannot legally appear on a television series filmed in the state.
House Bill 1548 allows children on television, but limits the hours a child can work. The bill also makes sure a studio teacher is on set so a child actor’s education is provided for.
Among the reforms in House Bill 1548, children under 16 on a film set must be accompanied by a parent or guardian at all times. They can work no more than eight hours a day or 48 hours per week, and minors must finish work by 10 p.m. on school nights.
The bill also requires that trust accounts be established for minor actors, in which the employer must deposit 15 percent of the child’s gross earnings. “It’s the only way to make sure a portion of the child’s earnings are there for them when they reach adulthood,” Murt said.
The bill also defines the term "reality program" to make sure the children who appear on reality TV have the same protections as the children on a movie set.
“By reforming Pennsylvania’s child labor laws, we will fuel TV and film production,” Murt said. “This bill gives the industry the clear legal guidelines it has asked for, and ensures that child performers are paid and their health is protected.”
State Representative Thomas Murt 152nd District, Pennsylvania House of Representatives
CC, thanks for posting all that information. I, too, am still fuzzy on a lot of the facts regarding the G kids' pay, and the PA child labor laws.
I think one of TFW's worst moments was Celebrity Wife Swap, when she let a total stranger into her home, along with an ABC crew (no crew daddies there), to essentially parent her children for a week. The G kids didn't know these people. Yes, Deanna was there, but she wasn't an old family friend, so I don't consider her a comfort person for the kids. But I guess she was enlisted as "guardian." It's like the kids were lab rats in some kind of crazy televised experiment. Meanwhile, Mom got to travel to LA to get her camera time, and ditch her kids for a week, and collect a nice paycheck at the end. Did anyone ever mention the elephant in the room -- that she was nobody's wife? If there was a Celebrity Shrew Swap, that'd be right up her alley.
TLC stinks said... 116 “The majority of what we made, I personally took and put in a college fund for [the kids] because they will go to college,” Kate herself said in late 2013. “So I use coupons, we don’t wear the top brands. Those things to me really aren’t overly important, but college, school and their house, where they live is important.”
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What good does it do to scream, They are going to college, everyone of them when she yanks them out to film anytime she wants!!!
You can't take your kids out of school as much as she has and still does and expect them to be top academic scholars by the time college time comes around. Some kids have a hard time in school when they are there all the time.
Is she hoping that some kids don't go to college and she thinks that she can claim it as hers? She is that evil and greedy.
When my 3 ds's were out for the summer, I remember a couple of summers they didn't write a word or read a book. I was concerned about it. All they would do is get up, eat breakfast and PLAY all day outside, all summer. Come in for water, food or first aid. When it was time to go back to school, they would get back to normal.
I am so glad they played all day till dark all summer. Compared to the kids today, what kid even goes outside to plays kick the can? Hide and seek? It didn't hurt my ds's to play all summer. They grew up and have degrees and great jobs.
I think that the kids won't have much at all when they all turn 18. I hope the kids won't have to write books and do media tours to make money to make up what that their mother of theirs stole from them.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 124 CC, thanks for posting all that information. I, too, am still fuzzy on a lot of the facts regarding the G kids' pay, and the PA child labor laws.
I think one of TFW's worst moments was Celebrity Wife Swap, when she let a total stranger into her home, along with an ABC crew (no crew daddies there), to essentially parent her children for a week. The G kids didn't know these people.
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It was a horrifying thing to do to your kids! A total stranger, crew daddies they didn't know. UGH! To assign Deanna as guardian was disgusting. The looks on the kids faces when they realized their mother was going to be gone for a week was pitiful. Even Kendra, a stranger, CRIED her eyes out at what the kids had to go through everyday!
A stranger CRIED because of what TFW forces those kids to do through everyday! No downtime, no play. When it was over with and when Deanna and TFW met in front of the hotel to discuss what happened, Deanna ran up to TFW and like a middle school teenager said, Oh, I have got STUFF TO TELL YOU! TFW's eyes rolled back into her head! Since then, we found out how TFW forced the nannies to listen into Jon's phone calls with the kids. Remember TFW said, you be me and report what you hear to ME!
I wonder what the help had to call her? Kate? Ms. Gosselin? Ma'am? Fuhrer?
CC, according to Murt's law, the kids earn a total of 15% of the gross proceeds. Whatever that 15% is, it is put into a trust by TLC but Kate has control of the money. For example, an episode pays $40,000. 15% of that $40,000 is $6000 (divided by 8 equals $750 per kid). The $6000 goes into a trust. Don't know if it's a lump sum or there are accounts for each child. They did eight episodes this season so the kids earned $48,000 gross but there are taxes on that income. Not sure when the taxes are taken out. All the money the kids earn goes into that trust account. It's not 15% per child, it's 15% of the gross pay that is divided by eight.
Murt's law does not follow Coogan. Kate can use the kids' trust money for their health, safety, education and welfare. In other words, there is a high probability there will be little to no money left when the kids turn 18.
TLC stinks (#127), if Kate can use the kids' trust money for their "health, safety, education and welfare," that would explain her dissertation on the extraordinary importance of a new deck. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't enough money left for college bumper stickers, let alone college educations.
I can guarantee you Rep. Murt was lobbied by TLC. The trust account is too watered down. That's the way it works in politics; the interested parties lobby the politicians. The law is better than nothing, but still inadequate. California's is best.
I posted Kate's college fund statement because Jon has said he took his money and put it in a college fund. Did they both contribute? Is someone lying? Neither parent went to college so are they just walking the walk about saving money for college? Baffling.
So TFW said in 2013, "I use coupons, we don’t wear the top brands." Still trying to keep up the piecing-and-patching storyline. How stupid does she think we are? Does she not realize we know she somehow always finds money for her hair extensions? Her nails? Her botox injections and other cosmetic procedures? Her monthly spa retreats she recently admitted to? Her at-home yoga sessions? Her many "helpers?"
Again, no one would begrudge her these things, if she wasn't so darn disingenuous about her lifestyle. Like when she said a few years ago that they never take "posh" trips. What the heck would you call that luxury Hawaiian vacation? Utah? Australia? She tries to rewrite history, and it makes her seem like a horrible phony.
Exactly, Flimsy. I doubt TLC footed the entire bill for the deck, thus the explanation on air and the blog about how much they needed that deck to relieve stress and the made up safety reason. Really? Justifying using the kids' money? She is totally transparent.
TLC Stinks said, CC, according to Murt's law, the kids earn a total of 15% of the gross proceeds. Whatever that 15% is, it is put into a trust by TLC but Kate has control of the money. For example, an episode pays $40,000. 15% of that $40,000 is $6000 (divided by 8 equals $750 per kid). The $6000 goes into a trust. Don't know if it's a lump sum or there are accounts for each child. They did eight episodes this season so the kids earned $48,000 gross but there are taxes on that income. Not sure when the taxes are taken out. All the money the kids earn goes into that trust account. It's not 15% per child, it's 15% of the gross pay that is divided by eight.
I disagree. It states: "The bill also requires that trust accounts be established for minor actors, in which the employer must deposit 15 percent of the child’s gross earnings. “It’s the only way to make sure a portion of the child’s earnings are there for them when they reach adulthood,” Murt said."
That means that whatever the child earns for that episode, 15% of it (gross amount) is put in a trust to assure that they have at least 15% of their earnings for their future.
They don't "earn 15% of the gross proceeds" from the entire episode. They have the amount they are paid, whatever that is per episode, and 15% of THAT amount is put in a trust for them. So (for example only) if they earn $10,000 an episode each, they each get $1,500 put into a trust, and the remaining $8,500 each is.... ???? Floating around somewhere? Savings, checking, Kate's wallet... Apparently the law says it's the kids' money but there is no law telling what has to be done with it legally and they would have to sue Kate for that money if she doesn't put it in an account for them, or in the trust with the rest of the funds. The law only protects 15% of their gross earnings. That's it.
Here is the actual PA law regarding filming in PA:
(2) All of the following govern the child performer trust account or qualified tuition program established under paragraph (1): (i) The parent or legal guardian shall establish the account for the benefit of the minor. (ii) The parent or legal guardian shall provide to the employer the information necessary to enable the employer to transfer funds into a child performer trust account or qualified tuition program. The information shall be provided on or before the start of paid employment. (iii) The employer shall transfer to the child performer trust account not less than 15% of: (A) total compensation prior to all taxes, deductions and commissions payable to the minor or the minor's parent or guardian under contract; or (B) in the case of payment to a third party, total compensation paid to the third party for the minor's services.
(Excerpt from page 7) http://filminpa.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Child_Labor_Act_revised_2013_Jan_via_L-I.pdf
TLC stinks said... 135 Exactly, Flimsy. I doubt TLC footed the entire bill for the deck, thus the explanation on air and the blog about how much they needed that deck to relieve stress and the made up safety reason. Really? Justifying using the kids' money? She is totally transparent. ***** Suing Jon was for their well being/health/welfare and safety. It makes no sense until you realize that Kate has sole discretion on how to spend the kids' funds. Then, you begin to notice that Kate uses the same words to explain away a lot of huge expenditures.
Re:MOPS and other social groups for Kate. These groups depend on COOPERATION, dealing with imperfect humans, being there to be MUTUALLY supportive. Could you imagine The Sunshine Club of Berks County (made up name) holding a charity event for a local need and the volunteer responsible for borrowing tables brought them undusted? Or, heaven forbid, get there later than Kate so she had to **gasp** WAIT? She would freak out and be immensely rude to people who just don't measure up to her random specifications.
I'm feeling a little dejavu-ish right now. I hope the "procedes" were worth all that anger and nastiness.
Nah, I can't see Kate Gosselin joining any kind of social, helping, civic, fraternal, or religous group.
Just to clarify, the children do not earn 15% of the total earnings per episode and split that 15% between the 8 of them. It's not Kate 85% for her alone, plus kids 15% to split 8 ways.
Kate earns X dollars for her appearance and each child earns X dollars for their appearance. Of those X dollars that each child earns, 15% of each X is put in a trust for each child.
It clearly states that "a portion of the child's earnings are there for them when they read adulthood." So a portion, or 15%, of all their earnings is guaranteed to be in a trust for them when they turn 18. I'd like to know where the 85% of all their earnings are. I truly hope it's been put in accounts for them and they have that money when they are adults. Those kids should have 100% of their earnings, not just 15%.
Unfortunately, Kate LEGALLY only has to account for the 15% of their earnings, as the parent she sets up the trust. The employer (TLC) puts the 15% in the trusts directly. If the kids want to go after their other 85% they would have to sue Kate for it.
This concerns the money in the trust: (x) The minor's parent or legal guardian may serve as custodian. If the child performer trust account reaches at least $150,000 or a higher amount set by the department through regulation, a trust company or independent custodian shall be appointed. (xi) Proceeds of the child performer trust account shall remain in trust until the minor reaches at least 18 years of age. Proceeds may be distributed to the minor before 18 years of age only for the minor's legitimate health and educational needs. Proceeds may remain in trust for distribution to the minor after 18 years of age if the parent or guardian determines that it would serve the health, education and financial interests of the minor.
CC, I read in http://www.cardozolawandgender.com/uploads/2/7/7/6/2776881/489-519.pdf that it is 15% of the gross proceeds from the show, not 15% of a salary they are paid. It is confusing, Where is the actual wording of the law and an interpretation?
Conception Date: February 17, 2010? That means that one hundred and sixteen (116) episodes of Jon & Kate Plus Ei8ht were filmed with absolutely zero money being put aside for the children. Twenty-seven episodes of Kate Plus Ei8ht were filmed after February 17, 2010.
“At least 15 percent of the gross proceeds, due to the children, must be placed in trust funds until they reach the age of 18 or unless needed for their safety, education, welfare or health.”
" Guess who gets to decide on and withdraw the kid’s money for ‘safety, education, welfare or health’ needs? Kate Gosselin, and there’s no system in place to question her as to why she’s removing the kid’s money. Just her word. The only reason Kate Gosselin has any money at all is because of her eight children being filmed and exploited for our entertainment. Her spinoff solo show, Kate Plus Ei8ht never even made it out of the testing stages. “It was a total failure from the get go because she is terribly boring and annoying and nobody wanted to see just Kate Gosselin. They want to see the kids.” A TLC employee told me off the record. So out of every thousand dollars that the kids earned from filming, Kate got $850 while each Gosselin child got eighteen dollars and seventy-five cents…unless Kate decides to take it for herself. Kate got $850 per $1,000. Each Gosselin child might possibly get $18.75. If they’re lucky."
So the law suit she filed against Jon & Robert could have been paid for with the childrens money since she told anyone who would listen she HAD to file for the "safety and future of her children"
So the law suit she filed against Jon & Robert could have been paid for with the childrens money since she told anyone who would listen she HAD to file for the "safety and future of her children" February 12, 2016 at 11:33 AM ****** You really have to wonder when Kate uses such absurd verbiage. The sheeple accept the prima facie inferences she makes.
So the law suit she filed against Jon & Robert could have been paid for with the childrens money since she told anyone who would listen she HAD to file for the "safety and future of her children"
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Many expenses she incurs can be "fudged" for the safety and welfare of her children, such as the home security system, medical expenses, car maintenance, and so forth.
I think what the law states and what Murt's site states is just worded more accurately.
It IS 15% of the gross proceeds from the show but it's 15% of the gross proceeds from the show that THEY earned. Not from the gross proceeds of the show as a whole. And it's each child. They aren't a unit as much as Kate likes to portray them as such. They are individual performers, just like Kate is.
Even if it was 15% of the entire proceeds from show it would have to be 15% EACH. That's not mathematically possible. It's 15% of each child's earning put in trust. So each kid is only guaranteed 15% of their hard earned money. However, Kate can use that 15% towards their "health and education." So they'd get less in cash when they turn 18.
And now for something completely different: there has been this not very well planned camping trip that has caused quite a bit of consternation and confusion in Oregon. Mainly what person in their right mind would occupy a wild life refuge in the middle of nowhere in the middle of winter? The occupation is over now and this article made me think of some fans of tfmjg.
For more things completely different, Amazing Race new season starts tonight! New season of Survivor starts Wednesday! Faceoff is great fun, Agent Carter is great fun, Big Bang Theory is very funny and is having their 200th episode on February 25.
CC--I also tried to explain this a couple of months ago, and I completely agree with your interpretation. Unlike the case of a child performer, the parents also were employed as "talent" (industry term--not mine!). Since this is the case, it seems like an amount would be stipulated for each child. To interpret it any other way would mean that if there was one child, that si glee child would be entitled to the entire 15%, and if there were 10 children, their cut would be 1.5%.
TLC stinks--a hospital diploma degree is a college degree. An RN associate degree is a college degree. Every single one of her credits earned would transfer to an accredited school to college a BS . I am not going to quibble as to whether anyone thinks she did not complete a college degree, but to categorically state that she never attended college is just plain incorrect. A hospital diploma program is typically one year longer than a 2 year junior college AA degree programs, with the exact same college courses required to sit for the RN exam. Hospital programs typically require more hand-on time with patients.
All RNs sit for the sexact same certification program, whether it is a 2 year, 3 year or 4 year degree. The field has changed, and hospitals are increasingly requiring BSN's. But that doesn't change the fact that she earned a nursing diploma, which is a type of college degree.
I personally don't care whether Kate went to college or not, etc, but would the comparison be like getting a GED diploma vs actually attending High School and getting a diploma. The GED is the equivalent, but you can't technically say you went to high school, or graduated high school. Or is that not a fair comparison? I'm just asking because it seems to me getting the equivalent of a college degree is not the same as going to college. ???
I think what the law states and what Murt's site states is just worded more accurately.
It IS 15% of the gross proceeds from the show but it's 15% of the gross proceeds from the show that THEY earned. Not from the gross proceeds of the show as a whole. And it's each child. They aren't a unit as much as Kate likes to portray them as such. They are individual performers, just like Kate is.
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You'll have to go back to the posts here from @ 2009? when TLC was suing Jon and he and TFW were divorcing and read @ how the settlement was worded. The kids were not paid separately from Jon and TFW - the ruling stated specifically that the kids were not separately paid participants and this was when the DOL told them 15% of gross proceeds had to be set aside for them. There was a huge discussion here about how this meant the kids were actually going to be paid so little, especially considering their parent's income from the show.
At the time this was all taking place, the documents were posted online and I soooo wish I'd taken screenshots of them, but, unfortunately, I didn't since this issue has come up so frequently since then.
Logically, to you and me, the kids are individual performers and should be paid accordingly, but neither TLC, the DOL, nor PA considered them to be such and that's where the comments have come from @ how little the kids earn AND how tiny their trust/s may be since TFW has the option to use the funds for their health, education, welfare. Unfortunately, the Gosselin kids don't live in CA and they're not protected by the Coogan Law. Murt's bill definitely helped their situation, but it still left a number of clauses that are up for interpretation - as we've done many times here at RTVKids. lol
All RNs sit for the sexact same certification program
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What sexact would that be? ;)
" I am not going to quibble as to whether anyone thinks she did not complete a college degree, but to categorically state that she never attended college is just plain incorrect"
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I think that what is being said here is that she did not physically attend a four-year college or university, which she didn't. She may have earned the equivalency of that, but she was not enrolled at a college where she would have taken mandatory courses in, for example, English, government, electives, etc. all required for graduation.
Carole, Hi. I was here for all that. Yes, I know the kids weren't paid at all until they were reported for not paying them. The kids didn't even get retro pay! It was like Ok from now on pay them, etc. those kids got screwed.
My comments today are regarding the new laws that took place in PA just a couple of years ago. The ones that Murt got put in place. From that time forward each child gets paid and 15% of their pay goes in a trust, and yes, Kate can use it for health and education. I still want to know where the 85% goes.
Wow, CC, thanks for explaining. So bottom line: we have no idea what the kids earn and what goes in the trust. And unfortunately, Kate controls it all.
I had no idea Kate's nursing degree was the same as a college degree. She has such poor language skills, she simply does not sound like someone who went to college!
Anyway, the salary discussion is interesting and I would love to know where the money goes too. I really fear there will be nothing for the kids in the end. It's a sham she controls the spending from their trust.
Cleaning and scrubbing can wait 'til tomorrow For babies grow up We've learned to our sorrow So quiet down cobwebs and dust go to sleep I'm rocking my baby, and babies don't keep
Author: Ruth Hulburt Hamilton
My dental hygienist, who was around 60 at the time, she was asking me about my kids this is when I was first having them and she told me about her son, Scotty. She told me to SAVOR and CHERISH every moment with them because you never know when you won't be able to. She told me that she wished that she had left the dirty dishes in the sink and went out and played ball with her son. She said she could of done them when he went to sleep.
Then she said her son was missing and she hadn't seen or heard from him for 6 months and didn't know if he was dead or alive. He must of been in his late 30's.
I had no idea Kate's nursing degree was the same as a college degree. She has such poor language skills, she simply does not sound like someone who went to college!
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You would be appalled if you could see the language skills (or lack thereof) that so many college students have today. I am forever banging my head as I wonder how they ever got to a school of higher learning. It's pathetic.
@Jane Did nothing change?It could be just me.Its been a while since i go on tabloid articles.I don't know what you guys think but i felt like in the comments about Kate there was an increase amount of Kate fans going on there and saying"Well i like to see any of you haters raise 8 kids by yourself!"and some other comments.But it could be just me cause on the other hand,TMZ kate on a date article comments had alot of negative feedback.
CC said... CC said... 152 I personally don't care whether Kate went to college or not, etc, but would the comparison be like getting a GED diploma vs actually attending High School and getting a diploma. The GED is the equivalent, but you can't technically say you went to high school, or graduated high school. Or is that not a fair comparison? I'm just asking because it seems to me getting the equivalent of a college degree is not the same as going to college. ??? --------- I don't think it is a fair comparison unless you feel that an associates degree from a junior college is not a true college degree. A diploma from a hospital program is a type of college degree, just the same as an associate degree.
Really autocorrect! Correcting a misspelled "exact" to sexact?
I think that what is being said here is that she did not physically attend a four-year college or university, which she didn't. She may have earned the equivalency of that, but she was not enrolled at a college where she would have taken mandatory courses in, for example, English, government, electives, etc. all required for graduation. ------ It isn't the equivalent of a 4 year degree--it a unique type of diploma that is midway between an associate and bachelor degree. therefore, an RN with an associate degree would need another 2 years of coursework to earn a BSN and a hospital diploma will take one year. this could vary depending on individual school requirements--I am speaking in general terms. For the most part, hospital diploma programs are being phased out. Many of the teaching hospitals are affiliated with university programs.
I hope that a little of the kids' money will be left when they are grown up. It's tough to say. The 85% though likely goes right into Kate's bank accounts. If you are a 15 yr old with a job at the pool, you earn money which should be yours. But you could have parents who make you give them the money. Or they start charging you rent or whatever. What can you do? You give it to them or run away from home. That's a tough decision. I don't know if you would be allowed to sue them later for that money or not. IANAL but I suspect the court couldn't do much.
You now have the Gosselin kids. No money was set aside for years and it was all legal. Now some money is set aside but Kate can use it for things like their expensive school. Now maybe they could sue her and say where's the rest of my money. But I suspect they don't really earn that much and Kate can say I gave you a beautiful house and computers and an allowance, etc. These kids do not seem to have a lawyer representing their interests in contract negotiations. I'm sure Kate gets the majority of the money and also gets paid in trips and decks and gift cards that don't give the kids any money. And you have to know that Kate is using every trick she can to hide that money. You would need a good forensic accountant to find it all.
I have one thought on the college money. Jon could believe that college is paid for if the money is in a 529 account. (I think that's right.) You save for college and I believe the money can only be used for higher education. They may also have both Jon's and Kate's names on them.
I think one of the seemingly few admirable things Kate has done was to complete her education to become a registered nurse. I don't believe her upbringing was conducive to the pursuit of higher education. Her desire, discipline, and completion was a notable achievement. That didn't hurt as much to say as I thought it might.
One thing that has bothered me is the claim by some that Kate lied about having PCOS, or being infertile. Infertility doesn't mean sterile. I have pcos, I've always been thin, and I've had 2 natural though unsuccessful pregnancies. PCOS meant ovulation was rare and random in my case. I might go months or a year without a period. I was told by various gynecologists that my best chance for a successful pregnancy would be through fertility treatments. Now as far as what took place before and during her pregnancy with the sextuplets, I don't know. Seems there's strong evidence she was going against what was prescribed. But as far as the pregnancy in high school, absolutely possible for a girl with pcos.
reader said... 168 I think one of the seemingly few admirable things Kate has done was to complete her education to become a registered nurse. I don't believe her upbringing was conducive to the pursuit of higher education. Her desire, discipline, and completion was a notable achievement. That didn't hurt as much to say as I thought it might.
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Her desire, dedication and completion of her RN certificate was because she wanted to marry a doctor and not have to work for the rest of her life.
In Robert's book, she threw herself at every doctor, even the ugly ones. When the drs. realized what she was doing, they refused to be with her. Then at the picnic there was Jon, a DRS. SON! Jackpot.
That wench even said, she missed Jon's dad SO BAD! I guess so, drawing a paycheck from him every month. Didn't he buy them one of the early houses? Then when the yard sale came up, she pitched a fit that Jon wanted to keep his dad's golf clubs and I remember her being shown holding the kids Christmas ornaments that Dr. Gosselin had picked out and gave to each child. He managed to hid it from her. I don't know if he got the ornaments or not!
WHAT A FREAKING PILE OF STEAMING DUNG!
Does she not realize the kids will see that one day and how much that could hurt them? UGH!
I do not find it admirable that she went to community college, spent two years there and earned her AA/nursing credential. Perhaps a check mark in the good column, but nothing to get excited about. And perhaps her upbringing was not conducive to pursuing higher education but it seems her siblings, whatever higher education was pursued, if any, are doing alright as well. So for me, maybe a how nice works, but nothing to get excited about. Her real career has been manipulating her fertility to extract multiples and then creating a reality show life for her children. Admirable falls far to the wayside with that. POS is more like it.
Redbird, I don't believe anyone can truly know Kate's ENTIRE motivation and focus for becoming a nurse. I imagine a lot of people entering the field of medicine believe one of the perks will be meeting other professionals. I knew several girls in college who joked about the MRS degree. Still they studied and completed, which required discipline and dedication, sacrifice too. I'm guessing most posters are contemptuous of Kate's every move, and everything she has ever done. I have to disagree. I believe the copied journal entries within Hoffman's book, but stating that a nurse threw herself at every single Doctor, even the unattractive ones,(wow there's a judgment), is an opinion and does not take away from the ability to complete nursing school. Again, Robt in his book took the opinion that Kate lied about pcos/infertility because Kate was pregnant as a teenager. That is absolutely incorrect. I get being angry and unforgiving of abuse, still, can't deny an actual accomplishment.
S***, did anyone else cry themselves through the Bate's, last night? OMG, what a fabulous family, love them.
Keep in mind that Gil Bates and a son-in-law are on the board of the Gothard ministries and are named in the lawsuit alleging turning a blind eye to child sexual abuse. I thought he was a wonderful father when I heard of his special date nights with his daughters until I knew he ignored the plight of other little girls. Shame on him -- he is scum!
Just heard on the news that Lebanon, PA has had multiple accidents this morning!
Praying all of the locals are OK!
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Fine here, redbird. Thanks for checking. Lebanon is a rural area, with lots of winding roads and there are always accidents. It snowed last night, roads froze, and we're in a deep freeze right now with temperatures around 0 tonight, and "real feel" 10 to 20 below. We are paying for all that warm weather we had in December!
reader...172 I get what you're saying, reader, and I agree completely. No matter her motivation, she did the work and got the degree. Steaming pile of dung or not, this is one thing she actually accomplished.
Redbird said.... Her desire, dedication and completion of her RN certificate was because she wanted to marry a doctor and not have to work for the rest of her life. --------------- It doesn't matter what her motivation was. She had to take anatomy and physiology, microbiology, pharmacology and medical terminology. Then, she had to pass the same certification exam as a nurse who has completed her Bachelors degree.
I honestly don't know how you can sustain the level of your resentment and hatred all day, every day. It must be exhausting.
redbird, I was trying to figure out why you would hear about accidents in Lebanon, and I just checked the local news and saw the report about the 30-car pile-up in Bethel Township on I-78, due to poor visibility. I think that's what you commented about. I imagine things are a mess up there, and then there's this brutal cold to deal with. It's a heavily traveled interstate and it looks like both lanes will be closed for some time.
reader...172 I get what you're saying, reader, and I agree completely. No matter her motivation, she did the work and got the degree. Steaming pile of dung or not, this is one thing she actually accomplished.
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I agree, too. Has she been keeping her license updated? Has she ever said anything about it? I don't know what is involved in this, but I would think that she would have to take exams to complete this. If she has done this, then good for her, even if there's no chance she will ever go back to nursing.
Lanc Native said... 177 redbird, I was trying to figure out why you would hear about accidents in Lebanon, and I just checked the local news and saw the report about the 30-car pile-up in Bethel Township on I-78, due to poor visibility. I think that's what you commented about. I imagine things are a mess up there, and then there's this brutal cold to deal with. It's a heavily traveled interstate and it looks like both lanes will be closed for some time.
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I heard the news about the accident on the radio. I listen to my local radio stations obituary report and right before it comes on they do about 2 minutes of news and it was the first news item.
Isn't Lebanon, PA the same town where the 13 yr. old little girl was on the kik app and met a man and a woman and they killed her? That poor girl had had a liver transplant. I hope those two get the death penalty if PA has it.
They would in my state.
Also, Joyce Garrard, the grandmother who ran her granddaughter to death, died yesterday.
Filming must be over and she wants everyone to know that Shoka is inside.
@Kateplusmy8: It's a rare day when I don't have 2insist that Shoka stays inside all day. Usually he rushes 4the door whenever it opens. #NotToday #ColdDog
TeamBullsh1tville @JohnySteps1337 17m17 minutes ago @Sassccha @msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 Thats why she never sued Robert for slander but for copyright. Fans will never admit this #Fact
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Just a great big hi, letting you all know how much I value each and everyone's opinions, I'm not going to disagree or agree as all opinions are valid. So she got an RN, so did I and I went through Hospital Nsg degree too. The reason less term papers, less expense and less tedious subjects for electives. Until I went for my BS, then my GPA dropped to 3.8 because gah, I hated term papers esp. those on state history and nonsense. I did fair in English Comp but in hospital nursing school the classes we took were equal to community college, and the writing class was just technical writing. Although we were attached to a University and our programs had to match up to them but on transfer they only equaled a C even if we aced the class in the hospital program. That was a bummer. I went to school for personal reasons, ill family member, my dad took nsg as his degree after retirement from the military and I needed to eat after high school. Due to the shortage wen I applied the state paid a stipend weekly (a whole $23) as well as provided room and partially paid board. it was a great deal. So she accomplish getting an RN, but sense she knew she was no longer welcomed home she too had and nsg is respected career for women and I too know a few women that entered it hoping to hookup with an MD, and one that did though it was surprising she married the one she did since she had made some unsavory remarks when they originally broke up. I promise, nursing is as hard as you make it. It's memorization for the boards mostly, not magic esoteric knowledge, and builds on what you learned in HS. I don't feel particularly brilliant but I do believe that most learning comes after graduation and actually doing the job and keeping up with the journals and all the new drugs big pharma are convincing the doctors to try and poison their poor patients with. So good on her, but not really since she didn't seem keen on actually doing the job, staying on even once a week and I doubt without a refresher unlikely to get hired much of anywhere. All the best to all, I think I love you all.
I agree that post-high school education is a real plus for anyone. Technical certificates, AA diplomas or Bachelors degrees, etc. are ALL designed to get you a job in your chosen field. As long as the worker fulfills the standard requirements and can do the job well I don't care what program they enter to get their basic credentials. I don't care, for example, if the woman wiring my new house has a degree in electrical engineering or took a 2 year class and apprentice program at a tech school. It's good.
Denise @Mydmaxx 2h2 hours ago @Kateplusmy8 I see it's frigid cold where you are, you and the kids and pets stay warm please. ☀️
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As opposed to frigid warm?
Stay warm? Nah, you deliberately want to make sure you're cold as cold can be. If Kate is at home, she will put on her Daisy Dukes and halter top and sit outside on Mr. Deckster in sub zero temperatures. Why would she want to stay warm?
@Sue im surprise she's not telling Kate about the freezing weather outside.Since valentine's day is tomorrow Maybe she'll try to get Kate's attention by claiming Vann is there at her house..Hope all of you are staying warm.
Denise @Mydmaxx 2h2 hours ago @Kateplusmy8 I see it's frigid cold where you are, you and the kids and pets stay warm please. ☀️
_____________ Denise is a Milo-In-Training airhead. She likes to hear herself tweet and thinks that she is part of Kate's inner circle. Kate's friends are her friends.
Lanc Native--- You can lookup any professional licensing http://www.licensepa.state.pa.us/SearchResults.aspx Kate's license nips currently active. Not only that, she had to have completed the required continuing education requirement to maintain active status.
As long as her license is kept active, there is no further licensing examination required. However, since she has been out of the field for many years, an employer will most likely require completion of a nursing refresher course to update her skills.
The original poster that I responded to said that neither Jon or Kate had attended college---not that she hadn't completed a Bachelors. That is just not a true statement. The science courses required for nursing schools had to have come from an accredited college, and are the exact same courses taken by pre-med.
From my previous post.... You can lookup any professional licensing http://www.licensepa.state.pa.us/SearchResults.aspx Kate's license nips currently active ------- Autocorrect definitely is on overtime! Why are the corrections always sexual?
Isn't Lebanon, PA the same town where the 13 yr. old little girl was on the kik app and met a man and a woman and they killed her? That poor girl had had a liver transplant. I hope those two get the death penalty if PA has it.
Oh, you are right, localyocal. I remember now the young man was from Virginia Tech. And that girl that was involved! CRAZY!
Saw the young girls dad on Dr. Phil and he said that she was 13 and had taken a Minions cartoon blanket with her and he said it was very cold. He believes that she was just going to go and meet with him for a short time because she had to take her anti-rejection meds every night, she couldn't miss them.
They showed the girl involved her mug shot and there is a flaming red long mark on her face and her dad said he believe that his daughter did it because she was fighting for her life.
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Fadetoblack-so glad you love it too! I am excited to find out when/if season 2 will be on.
Lol Tucker's mom,now that Belle pregnant, you never know. So much took place in the first Season, I hope it won't get boring with the new story line. Going to try hard to find out anything about Season 2.
So 13 episodes in Season 1, unlike tfw and her 4-6 shows being called a Season.
@KIAT the person who tweeted seeing Kate at LV airport also said that there was NO film crew with Kate.So you could be right.Otherwise,why is Kate in Vegas with the kids on school days?I highly doubt it was to see family since 2 of her siblings came out and said they don't talk to Kate and i don't believe she talks to the other 2 siblings.Even though no one knows anything about the other 2.
@KIAT the person who tweeted seeing Kate at LV airport also said that there was NO film crew with Kate.So you could be right.Otherwise,why is Kate in Vegas with the kids on school days?
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Just because there was no film crew at the airport doesn't necessarily mean that they weren't filming on location or perhaps took another flight. Maybe they didn't film at the airport. I believe that Kate has family or friends in Wyoming. She said in an episode that they came to Berks to visit or stay with the kids and helped to babysit.
We don't know if she was in Vegas, but why would someone tweet that she was seen? It just seems strange that a person would make up something like that.
Is it a coincidence that every time Kate disappears, Milo goes away, too? It happens nearly every time. She's a sneaky tweeter. Could she go MIA just to let people guess as to her whereabouts, hoping they believe that she is with Kate?
All I can say with confidence is that Katie Irene Gosselin does NOT pay for airfare for ten or more people out of her own pocket. So I think everyone can agree that they were being filmed somewhere. LV airport could have been a stopover, or they were filming in that area. I don't quite know what is actually family filming worthy IN Las Vegas proper. Maybe TLC is doing a crossover episode with Kody Brown and his thirty wives. lol
IF they did go to the SB, I agree they weren't being filmed inside. But the trip itself would have been.
And how convenient that Valentine's Day falls on a weekend this year. I imagine that signals a third filming weekend in a row.
Kate in ANY airport with 8 kids? Alone? No mention of Mr. Road Manager or Ms. BFFdujour? How ever did Kate manage? I bet she was tons of fun to be around. "Nagging" wouldn't be the worst of it, ya think?
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Kate in ANY airport with 8 kids? Alone? No mention of Mr. Road Manager or Ms. BFFdujour? How ever did Kate manage? I bet she was tons of fun to be around. "Nagging" wouldn't be the worst of it, ya think?
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Kate can't manage herself alone when traveling, so she had her usual entourage if in LV.
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Localyocul (#101), funny how the mother of 8,
with 6 premature babies, managed to make and shop an audition tape. But now she's got 8 kids in school all day and can't make 2 minutes to say hello to her fans?
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She wasn't doing any of that, Jon was. On someone else's time too. Btw this post keeps not getting posted so please stop censoring for no reason.
Imagine how the Gosselin kids' lives would be impacted if something were to happen to their dad. It wouldn't bode well for their feelings toward their mother in the future. All the missed opportunities…
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FlimsyFlamsy said... 103
Localyocul (#101), funny how the mother of 8,
with 6 premature babies, managed to make and shop an audition tape. But now she's got 8 kids in school all day and can't make 2 minutes to say hello to her fans?
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She wasn't doing any of that, Jon was. On someone else's time too. Btw this post keeps not getting posted so please stop censoring for no reason.
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@Rainbowsandunicorns I still don't believe she talks to the 2 other siblings that we know nothing about.Its very hypocritical of Kate to claim that she wants to protect their privacy and yet this is the same woman who won't protect her children's privacy.From talking about the kids problems and she also discussed about the kids underwear.If thats not exposing their privacy i don't know what is.As far as Milo goes,i don't think her disappearing proves anything about whether she is or isn't who she says she is.
I still don't believe she talks to the 2 other siblings that we know nothing about.Its very hypocritical of Kate to claim that she wants to protect their privacy and yet this is the same woman who won't protect her children's privacy.
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Did someone say that she is on speaking terms with her siblings? If you are referring to post #4, rainbows pointed out that Kate had mentioned that she has friends or family in Wyoming or somewhere in that part of the country. She stated that in an episode.
As for Milo, nobody said anything about Milo being this or that, only that Milo has historically disappeared when Kate does.
She wasn't doing any of that, Jon was. On someone else's time too. Btw this post keeps not getting posted so please stop censoring for no reason.
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Wow.She wasn't doing any of that, Jon was. On someone else's time too. Btw this post keeps not getting posted so please stop censoring for no reason.
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It's been my experience that comments such as this are rarely censored. I've had to re-post on a few occasions, but not because they were rejected but because they got lost in the shuffle or blogger ate them.
Of course Kate shopped around to find a network willing to sign them. It's all in Robert's book.
Kate and Jon were in cahoots in shopping the babies. It was only when Kate's head blew up, Steve entered the picture, and Jon got shoved aside that he had a change of heart. Jon was not a saint in any of this. Kate drove it, Jon went along for the ride. Really tired of the Jon defending.
Historically, Milo disappears on Twitter in response to Kate's silence on Twitter. She must have some Twitter alert set up linked to Kate's Twitter. Milo is only on Twitter to respond to Kate's friends and enemies on Twitter. This person has an uninteresting life and no friends except for following Kate Gosselin. That's my theory.
Who is this Andrea in Wyoming? If Kate and family went to visit, there is more to it than just a vacation with the kids. Something is up. Odd time to visit out West. Kate NEVER flies with those kids as the ONLY adult. NEVER. There is always a nanny or two and/or Steve.
I will continue to defend Jon. Nothing happens in a vacuum. Jon didn't want to have a 3rd child. He was in his 20's. Kate deceived him about the pregnancy, I believe she didn't give him all the facts. Then, again young Dad in his 20's he faces 6 new babies. Will they be healthy?
Kate in his ear, he is convinced they will need help. The media swarm, the attention feels good to this young man central Pa facing fatherhood to 8 children. The Governor meets you, all of it. Yes, sure a couple of shows, pay for the many needs of such a large immediate family.
Again, things happening bit by bit, day after day...nagging wife always in his head.
There are a couple of other multiple birth families here in PA still receiving assistance, discounted housing, local grocery discounts and donations too.
I think Steve was certainly a factor in the split and perhaps pushed Jon to making public his desire to stop the circus, but I wholeheartedly believe that his doubts and awareness, even his expressed concerns to Kate about slowing down, returning to any hope of normal began long before.
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Kate and Jon were in cahoots in shopping the babies. It was only when Kate's head blew up, Steve entered the picture, and Jon got shoved aside that he had a change of heart. Jon was not a saint in any of this. Kate drove it, Jon went along for the ride. Really tired of the Jon defending.
February 10, 2016 at 4:46 AM
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J+K were both selling those kids and the fakery of their lives. From very early on, they were a "tv family" and NOT "just a family that happens to be on tv".
They went from using the kids for donations and freebies to planning seasons full of fake-ass episodes to sell their show and make it rain money.
Kate's got something in Wyoming and she's taken the kids there without filming, which makes you scratch your head.
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2011/10/kate-and-steve-spotted-in-wyoming-where.html
What's in Wyoming that she'd spend the time and money to visit, yet not see her own family where she lives?
Who knows. She's a very, very odd woman.
I also have a feeling Wyoming is a place with people that can let Kate and Steve be Kate and Steve.
Maybe this Andrea who's been filmed as the current nanny is from the very good friends who live in Wyoming? Which would pretty much confirm that she's a live-in at Kate's.
OT: I have friends traveling today. They will lay over in an airport and no one will notice. They are leaving -3 degree windchill and arriving in sunny 80 degree Austin. I am excited that I will be spending the next few days with people I love.
Such is the life of an ordinary person who isn't selling themselves on TV.
Good day to all of you....
Didn't TFW go to Montana or Wyoming for Thanksgiving? I had wondered then if maybe she was getting some surgical enhancements done and needed some recovery time away from PA, while these friends took care of the kids.
If TLC has given TFW some new episodes, that might've inspired her to get some more work done, and provided the money to pay for it. Pure speculation!
Oh, forgot about that post in 2011. I thought there was speculation about friends that moved out west because that was her explanation as to who watched the kids while she did CA in NY. The friend/s came to PA to watch the kids for weeks. Can't believe anything she says but she's been going to WY for years. She likes warm weather so an odd place to take a short vacay this time of year. And taking the kids along if it is a love nest with Steve doesn't make sense either although she'll do anything to keep the kids from Jon.
My good friend lives in Sheridan and I didn't realize this until I visited but Wyoming is the new playground for the rich and famous. I saw more Bentleys there then I ever saw in LA. I bet Kate loves that.
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OT: I have friends traveling today. They will lay over in an airport and no one will notice. They are leaving -3 degree windchill and arriving in sunny 80 degree Austin. I am excited that I will be spending the next few days with people I love.
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They and you are far richer than Kate will ever be.
I'd never want to be famous. If having more money meant that I'd be famous (or infamous), I'd turn it down in a heartbeat.
A tweet from Kate in 2011:
In Jackson Hole Wyoming...have always wanted to visit! Love it! SOO georgous! Dreams of kayaking Snake River someday..Scenery to make u cry!
A poster said in 2011:
Clarks Fork Guest Ranch in Wyoming. It is SO beaautiful! Gorgeous country. Took my breath away. Does that witch realize what a dream the kids are experiencing! I could look at those mountains all day. Heaven on earth, l swear. What a beautiful country America is..... sigh
I could not find the context of this post as to whether Kate was sighted there or a rumor, but I bet wherever she us, it's not staying with friends but at some five star resort. When it comes to pampering, she'll cough up the dough.
Occasionally it feels like TLC sets up "reward" trips after filming.
Remember she went to Vegas after the road trip out west? They were spotted in a hotel. It was never filmed or if it was filmed it was never an episode. There was also evidence there was a lot of unfilmed down time in Alaska, staying in a lodge, etc., that was never filmed.
I always thought that was the "bribe" to the kids. Go alone with filming for a couple weeks and you'll get to swim in the pool and hot tub and eat ice-cream, etc.
Anyway, I wonder if this Vegas thing is one of those--a non-filmed bribe for the many months of filming they just went through.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 28
Occasionally it feels like TLC sets up "reward" trips after filming.
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Yes. Poor Ashley had to bail before she got the carrot at the end of the stick in Vegas!
Kate and Steve reportedly took off for awhile, leaving the kids behind in Alaska.
Kate and Steve decompressed in NYC after their first trip filming in Australia.
Do folks realize how loaded this woman is?
I think those friends were in Montana but Kate did go to a ranch in Wyo. It was Red Reflet Ranch (a working cattle ranch and luxurious resort)
http://www.red-reflet-ranch.net/
I think I remember once unfilmed but maybe filmed once also. It has its own airport and able to rent out the whole place for a group. Very pricey. The simple one I went to years ago only charges 1300 for a week now. This Red Reflet charges almost $4000 with discounts for children.
So if it is a reward trip with no filming, the question again is why does the school allow these unexcused absences so frequently?
Oh, I remember the dude ranch. TLC was careful not to show how fancy it was. Surely they are not filming THAT again?
Gosh, if filming is fun fun fun, why does the family need a reward when it's done? Maybe because it's only fun for one member of the family? The only one who doesn't really have anything else to do?
@Sheepless in seattle (12) My point was that i don't think she's in Wyoming to visit family.I don't think its family cause we know she's not on speaking terms with Kevin or Kendra.But we don't know anything about Christen or Clairissa and i was also saying that i don't believe Kate's hypocritical statement that she doesn't want to show them or talk about them cause she wants to protect their privacy when she won't protect her children's privacy.
Its my understanding that Andrea's family is in Montana (not Wyoming); she is Carla's niece, Ashley's cousin. She now lives back in PA and, I believe but don't know for a fact, may be TFW's live in nanny/helper/whatever. TFW said "a family from Montana" stayed with the kids during her Celebrity Apprentice time. I think she also said they are like family to them because the kids have known them for a long time. So its not any of TFW's family out west; from what I see (it can be found on Facebook), all 3 of her sisters and her brother live in PA; one sister used to live elsewhere (in Ohio I think) but now lives back in PA.
If the sighting is true, my thoughts are they were headed to somewhere warm; I just don't see TFW heading somewhere colder than PA at this time of year. Just my feeling on that.
I can see TLC doing (yet another) trip to Las Vegas. There's Cirque and other shows, pools, the Hoover Dam (sooooo educational dontcha know), animal and aquatic attractions, casinos with rides.
Plenty to fill a few episodes.
Kate could hook it up with a stop in CA.
My boom scenario is S. Korea ;-)
Good point, Tucker's Mom. LV is great for kids. Could be a pre-birthday celebration filming.
the Hoover Dam (sooooo educational dontcha know), animal and aquatic attractions, casinos with rides.
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...and that dam tour with the dam guide! Would Kate call him Mr. Dam Guide?
My point was that i don't think she's in Wyoming to visit family.I don't think its family cause we know she's not on speaking terms with Kevin or Kendra.But we don't know anything about Christen or Clairissa and i was also saying that i don't believe
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Sheepless didn't say that it necessarily was family. I don't remember exactly if Kate said it was family, or just friends from Wyoming who came to stay with the children. I remember, though, that she said they knew someone in that area and they flew in to babysit the kids.
I guess I'm just an old fuddy-duddy, because I can't get used to the fact that Las Vegas has tried to become "family friendly" over the years, what with all the crime and prostitution that abounds there. It isn't Disney World for sure. lol
PatK @ 40 - I guess I'm an old fuddy-duddy too because I don't think of LV as child friendly although I have to admit it's been close to forty years since I've visited. The only attraction I can think of in that area worthy of interest to children would be Hoover Dam. I can't see TFW taking the family there unless of course it's on TLC's dime - and come to think of it that's the only way she does travel.
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Gosh, maybe there is no "reward" for filming and this is all speculation that aligns with your perception of how things are
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There is ample evidence they frequently take little VIP swag trips directly after filming. Sometimes the very next day after filming wraps.
Call it a reward, call it whatever you want, but there's really no disputing this occurs.
I just don't see TFW heading somewhere colder than PA at this time of year. Just my feeling on that.
We're expecting an arctic blast, coldest weather of the season with possible windchills of twenty below this weekend. I imagine that any place will be warmer than PA!
OT for AuntieAnn...thanks for reporting on your weekend meal! I was thinking of you when I was making my pig stomach. I am glad you enjoyed it. I forgot to tell you that I usually put in some extra ham so I have some left over for ham and split pea soup, or ham and bean soup!
Now...what to do with that lonely, neglected beef heart you have in your freezer! I'll check for my recipe!
The more I think about it, the more I doubt it was Kate seen in the LV airport. We know they filmed at Costco and Target the weekend before. That would make sense preparing for a SB party at the compound, less so for preparing for a trip. I think Kate was at home filming this weekend.
TFW herself talked about rewarding the kids for filming. Remember the fall photo shoot wearing heavy sweaters in the hot sun? Anyone could see that the children were unhappy. Then they got those backpacks with treats in them, and TFW said something about giving them rewards, or did she say bribes, for doing those things. And wasn't that when they all danced to "Footloose," and something was said about them needing to let off steam after all that work?
Everything we say here ticks them off, yet they keep coming back to read. Guess they just can't quit us.
The more I think about it, the more I doubt it was Kate seen in the LV airport. We know they filmed at Costco and Target the weekend before. That would make sense preparing for a SB party at the compound, less so for preparing for a trip. I think Kate was at home filming this weekend.
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Maybe. Maybe not.
I used to be a lot more skeptical but believe it or not a heck of a lot of these sightings turn out to be true.
One thing that lends credibilty is if the account doesn't look like a sock. Has been on twitter awhile, never mentioned Kate before, looks like a real person, maybe even lives in the area they are claiming to have seen Kate or had tweets prior indicating they were in the area. How does this account measure up?
The thing is, twitter is full of true celeb sightings just becasue it's so ubiquitous. Kate's just one of them. If you're out and about and a celeb, there's a good chance someone will tweet about it.
I remember when Mady wanted to go somewhere and Kate told her to just name the place. Mady said, "San Diego," and Kate said, "SOLD." I don't know if that episode was filmed, but how many mothers out there can just say, yes, we're off and running to California, you got a deal...and off they went.
It's a shame that the kids will think that's how life works. You just say you want to go somewhere, you can take off school, and just up and leave. I am afraid there will be some rude awakenings in the years to come. Entitlement comes with a price and it's not all at bargain basement discounts.
The more I think about it, the more I doubt it was Kate seen in the LV airport. We know they filmed at Costco and Target the weekend before. That would make sense preparing for a SB party at the compound, less so for preparing for a trip. I think Kate was at home filming this weekend.
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Well, if they were home, wouldn't we have seen those wonderful pictures of the super Super Bowl spread, the kids lined up, Kate bragging about the party, ad nauseam? Then again, maybe not, if the whole thing is a big surprise for an episode.
If they were in Vegas, then Milo's tweet about the perfect SB party with Vann the Mann was way off base and Kate never told her of their plans to go out West.
If there were a party at home, we'll find out this summer! They will be shoveling snow and building snowmen on July 4. The episodes are so timely.
TLC (27): "Does that witch realize what a dream the kids are experiencing! I could look at those mountains all day. Heaven on earth, l swear. What a beautiful country America is..... sigh"
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According to Kate, it's all wasted space, except, maybe for FDR on Mt. Rushmore.
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I remember when Mady wanted to go somewhere and Kate told her to just name the place. Mady said, "San Diego," and Kate said, "SOLD." I don't know if that episode was filmed, but how many mothers out there can just say, yes, we're off and running to California, you got a deal...and off they went.
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I'm pretty sure that was faked. Kate and Steve needed a cover story and I think it's possible some more cosmetic work was done.
There were reports of those two lovebirds well, looking like lovebirds.
There were reports of those two lovebirds well, looking like lovebirds.
Yep. Remember that photo of them on their reward trip to Las Vegas? Sitting at some show, drinks on the table, entirely too comfortable with each other?
She didn't tweet about it until someone busted her with a photo.
Yep. Remember that photo of them on their reward trip to Las Vegas? Sitting at some show, drinks on the table, entirely too comfortable with each other?
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That was just Kate treating herself to a LV getaway with Steve. I think for her Bday.
Yup she's always either in her kitchen or at the grocery story. Wouldn't catch a glimpse of her anywhere else!
In a recent episode Kate said something like some people call it bribes I prefer to call it incentive.
Tucker's Mom (#52), yes, TFW did have a getaway in LV with Steve. Hmmm...dinner with another adult?
I thought she never has that? Did she ask Steve
if she could cut his meat?
FlimsyFlamsy said... 54
Tucker's Mom (#52), yes, TFW did have a getaway in LV with Steve. Hmmm...dinner with another adult?
I thought she never has that? Did she ask Steve
if she could cut his meat?
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Does it occur to any fans (I know, another stupid question!) that it's incredibly odd for Kate to not have any adult nights with friends? With 8, count em, 8 kids, how many parents would you interact with on a regular basis?
No moms night out ever? No book club? Nothing?
I thought she never has that? Did she ask Steve
if she could cut his meat?
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Maybe he had crab legs, finger food, to spare him the embarrassment of her having to cut his meat. We know he didn't have salad or mac and cheese.
Boy, I remember that photo! She and Steve were at a comedy show and Kate was caught in that picture laughing with her big horsey mouth. Yeaaaah, that was a business dinner, people. Maybe this is a pre-birthday getaway, one that is not being filmed? Las Vegas would be a difficult place to do filming discreetly with so many tourists taking photos. I believe she is definitely gone because of her Twitter silence.
TFW and Steve went to Las Vegas for the opening of Brad Garrett's comedy club and that's where the picture of them not on a date was taken. They were both braying like a couple of mules in the picture and it didn't look like they were conducting a business meeting. I think the trip may have been around her birthday.
No moms night out ever? No book club? Nothing?
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Book club? LOL! She still has Nicole's book on her nightstand. Wasn't it in the fall of 2013 that Kate promised to read it? I guess she's a really slow reader. I wonder if she dusts around it! I noticed that Nicole removed the photo of herself and Kate on her twitter and Kate has been replaced by two other celebrities as her favorite people!
Are the other TLC reality shows as wrong-season as Kate's? We get back to school in Dec and probably snow in June. Does this happen with any little people or Duggars or sister wives? I'm curious if it's because they never know when she'll air as a fill in or if her shows need much more editing time to make them work.
If she's out of PA somewhere,how come there haven't been anymore people claiming to have spot her and the kids somewhere?Surely someone would of said they saw her.Unless maybe she's in an area where no one cares about her.I still find it funny how the paps could care less about her now.
No moms night out ever? No book club? Nothing?
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She at one point indicated she was a regular church goer.
So no MOPs ever? No women's bible study? No women's ministry? No church retreats to the Poconos to go read Beth Moore books?
It's odd, but there's a lot the fans overlook.
Yes, other shows are seasonally confused. I caught a glimpse of the Little Couple and they were doing summery things. I imagine anywhere between 3 and 6 months is the norm between filming and airing.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 59
No moms night out ever? No book club? Nothing?
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She at one point indicated she was a regular church goer.
So no MOPs ever? No women's bible study? No women's ministry? No church retreats to the Poconos to go read Beth Moore books?
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I had no idea what an MOP is, so I looked it up on acronym finder. I couldn't find anything church-related, but I did find "money over personality". Certainly Kate has that!
I did another search for "church group mops" and came up with a church group called MOPS, mothers of preschoolers. Is that what you meant, admin. Cause I don't think Kate exactly qualifies, no matter how much she tries to keep her kids "little".
Kate read? Jon said she didn't even keep up with current events. The only book I recall her saying she read was Fifty Shades of Grey' lol
( well other than her 'bestsellers')
Lol
Betsy said... 65
Kate read? Jon said she didn't even keep up with current events. The only book I recall her saying she read was Fifty Shades of Grey' lol
( well other than her 'bestsellers')
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Of course, but I figured maybe she'd go for the box o'wine.
Bitch and stitch? She's got the former...
Here are pictures of the Grand Opening of Brad Garrett's Comedy Club. Even Ray Romano came and did a set. Who is that woman that is sitting right next to TFW? Is she at the other table or sitting close to her? Hmm... She doesn't allow the unwashed masses to sit next to her.
She doesn't see people. Unless they are rich and she can use them and spit them out.
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/grand-president-and-chief-operating-officer-scott-sibella-news-photo/142106261
I did another search for "church group mops" and came up with a church group called MOPS, mothers of preschoolers. Is that what you meant, admin. Cause I don't think Kate exactly qualifies, no matter how much she tries to keep her kids "little".
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It's Mothers of Preschoolers, it's a very popular church group. I was asking why she was never in something like MOPs. She wouldn't qualify anymore, but she certainly qualified back in the day.
jamezvader, I am totally not surprised no one else has tweeted or instagramed anything. It's nor unusual. She is a D Lister and really not on the radar any longer.
Oh, interesting this little trip corresponds with Valentine's Day, LOL.
For those on the blog that were keeping up with a murder case from last year, there is an update.
Joyce Garrard, the grandmother who forced her little granddaughter, Savannah Hardin, to run in the heat of the day for hours and carry 15 lbs. of firewood was convicted last March for her death.
This was her punishment for eating a chocolate candy bar on the school bus because she was hungry.
She was sentenced to life in prison, without parole.
Yesterday her attorney said that Garrard was
Brain Dead and on a ventilator. She had a massive heart attack. This was Monday. On the news last night, her daughter came out and said, No, she is not brain dead.
Savannah's step-mother, who was pregnant, refused to even try to stop the grandmother. Her trial starts later this year. I really hope she gets life in prison without parole. She deserves it.
The rock star County DA who prosecuted the case, a beloved member of the community, died 4 months after convicting Garrard with a 8 year battle of cancer at 49 years old.
Admin (#66), I can't picture TFW mingling with other moms at church unless cameras were rolling, or they'd just handed her $20 for a family photo
(cash only, please!!!!!!).
There are lots of mom groups and local connections that Kate could avail herself of, but I think she's consumed with her PR, the show, Steve and Deanna.
You have to make yourself available and committed to any regular group, and that's not Kate. Sure, she'll pal around with the locals for the camera, or when she's getting her fix spending money and getting pampered, but just to be there for others when she's not the center of it all? No way.
You have to make yourself available and committed to any regular group, and that's not Kate.
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Yes, and groups are going to expect give and take. You can't just show up and take take take like is Kate's usual M.O.
Eventually they'll want you to volunteer, to come early and help set up, to join a committee, to organize an event. To pay dues or go pick up some things they need at the store. To put together a slide show or a music play list.
Of course normal people find such groups rewarding and don't think about it in terms of a fixed pie.
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Are the other TLC reality shows as wrong-season as Kate's? We get back to school in Dec and probably snow in June. Does this happen with any little people or Duggars or sister wives? I'm curious if it's because they never know when she'll air as a fill in or if her shows need much more editing time to make them work.
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That is not uncommon. That's basically how many of shows, unless it is a live broadcast, or it is to air later in the day or very near future (new shows or late night shows), are shown.
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So no MOPs ever? No women's bible study? No women's ministry? No church retreats to the Poconos to go read Beth Moore books?
It's odd, but there's a lot the fans overlook.
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That's for sure. Kate is the Milli Vanilli of motherhood. The sheep have given her the Mother of the Century award even though she's been lip-syncing the role of 'mother' for fifteen years. They're blind to the glaring truth that this woman is a big time scam artist.
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I forgot to tell you that I usually put in some extra ham so I have some left over for ham and split pea soup, or ham and bean soup!
Now...what to do with that lonely, neglected beef heart you have in your freezer! I'll check for my recipe!
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ha! That's okay, the Schnitz und Knepp was still very tasty.
I did find a recipe online for stuffed heart if you can't find yours. I might make it for Valentine's Day or is that living dangerously?
I did find a recipe online for stuffed heart if you can't find yours. I might make it for Valentine's Day or is that living dangerously?
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Well, it is "heart", so it fits in with the theme of the day!
I think that the recipe is in one of my Mennonite cookbooks. I'll look later today and report back tonight! I don't make it on a regular basis, but now I am hungry for some.
Yes, and groups are going to expect give and take. You can't just show up and take take take like is Kate's usual M.O.
Eventually they'll want you to volunteer, to come early and help set up, to join a committee, to organize an event. To pay dues or go pick up some things they need at the store. To put together a slide show or a music play list.
Of course normal people find such groups rewarding and don't think about it in terms of a fixed pie.
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Not only that, but her attention span is so pathetic that she would be tired of it in no time flat. She just flits from one thing to another. She can't seem to find anything that interests her for any period of time...except filming.
So online there is a pdf of the 2013-2014 school handbook. It says excused absences are for illness, family emergencies, medical appointments, religious observance or significant family milestone. Unexcused absence are extended FAMILY VACATIONS or anything that does fall into the excused category. Lower and Middle School students who accrue more than ten unexcused absences in one trimester are required, based upon recommendation, to use a parent paid tutor to make up work. Teachers are not required to help students make up their work.
An upper school student who receives a total of 15 absences (excused or unexcused) for the school year risks not getting academic credit.
http://web.lancastercountryday.org/forms/Handbook/Master-13-14.pdf
So unless there is some understanding between herself and the school because the kids work, she must be feeling time constraints on continued filming. If my child went there and a family was getting preferential treatment regarding absences, I'd be pissed. All students should be treated equally.
PA Dutch Mom (#79), remember TFW tweeting about some field trip being boring? And also tweeting in the middle of a parents' meeting at school?
Or are we continuing to make things up out of whole cloth just to make the world's bestest
mommy look bad?
http://www.cardozolawandgender.com/uploads/2/7/7/6/2776881/489-519.pdf
Interesting tidbits. Under oath, TLC admitted the Gosselin children received no payment for appearances in Jon and Kate Plus 8. For Kate Plus 8, payment was $700,000, $500,000 to Kate and $200,000 to the kids ($25,000 each).
The PA law did not require Coogan accounts. Although there is a trust and the kids receive 15% of the gross proceeds until age 18, Kate can withdraw money from their trust accounts because the law is so broad. It says the 15% must be deposited into the trust BUT money can be WITHDRAWN for THEIR SAFETY, EDUCATION, HEALTH OR WELFARE. Incredibly, the trust funds are worthless as far as protecting the kids' earnings. The trust fund is simply an account used to pay for the current expenses of raising the kids.
Kate makes far less now with eight episodes at $40,000 each. $380,000 for 2016. With an income hit of just over 50%, I believe there will be little money left in those trust accounts when the kids turn 18. I don't believe Jon knows anything about what is going on with the children's trust so he should not make blanket statements that the kids are financially set.
Flimsy, possibly. We have no idea as to what school activities she participates in so yes, you can't just assume she washes her hands of anything school related. However, If she found a field trip or a parents' meeting boring and had the balls to Tweet the field trip was boring, then it does leave the impression she is not that involved. Field trips are anything but boring, IMO, for the chaperones. Been there, done that.
I don't see anything "odd" about that.
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I see everything odd about someone who has almost no interaction with the rest of society, and even her own family. I find it very, very odd. As far as we can tell she stays home, goes to Target, tweets, and films.
Maybe there is something wrong with her that explains this behavior. Lack of involvement in church is but one example of a huge lack of involvement in normal social interactions in general.
Standing on its own, of course lack of church involvement is not odd--but people who don't do that find social interactions elsewhere. But you want to look at it in a vacuum, and that's not taking into account the big picture, which is misleading.
TLC stinks, I totally agree with you. If I had my kids there and other kids were getting preferential treatment I would be furious too.
She doesn't realize how bad she is shafting her kids like this. There is no telling how many days of school they have missed. And if TFW has to get a tutor, guess who pays for it? Yep. TLC.
TLC's dime can stretch to pay for anything that will help them make millions even if it is morally unethical to do so!
What is "odd" is the family estrangement. We know what happened with her brother and I suspect others were not onboard with the marketing of the kids either.
I also think deep down she is an introvert and that could explain her social awkwardness and lack of interests other than filming. She has a very, very small social circle. What is particularly maddening is that strangers are called crew daddies, aunts and uncles. These people are in it for themselves; they are all doing a job to get paid.
Oops. Math wrong. She made $320,000 before taxes for those 8 shows. Could you live with a 50% pay cut? With her expenses, she has got to be sucking money out of the kids' trust.
I don't believe Jon knows anything about what is going on with the children's trust so he should not make blanket statements that the kids are financially set.
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IIRC, Jon stated that he put money into irrevocable trusts for each of the kids for college, and they're set for college funds. As far as what Kate's doing with the monies earned from the shows, he probably has no idea.
My impression, vis a vis Jon, is that he took a huge chunk of HIS money earned through the show and set up funds.
Those pictures of Kate and Steve in Vegas having a blast at Brad Garrets show- they were dressed to the nines (Kate's new tatas on display front and center), all cozy together, doing nothing that involves business, Steve with no wedding ring. They look for all the world, like a very happy couple.
I truly don't know how Gina does it and can't fathom that they're still married. You'd have to be one disinterested wife to live like that.
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I don't see anything "odd" about that.
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I see everything odd about someone who has almost no interaction with the rest of society, and even her own family.
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According to Kate (to the incontrovertible evidence otherwise), she doesn't socialize or go out unless she goes to the grocery store and she doesn't eat with adults ever.
That's way odd.
I do not believe TLC is doing a yearly contract with Kate. I bet anything there was a three year contract in place to film specials each season. Remember, the specials or short seasons started in June, 2014. I cannot imagine a corporation doing a year-to-year contract with all the time and cost of production. I bet we see her until 2017. Of course, if she fails to draw eyeballs, she can be canceled.
Why wouldn't Jon know about the children's trust especially if he was involved in setting it up? He must have been since he and Kate must have had to do the paperwork for it. A 5 year old can't sign off on that.
Tucker, that's what Jon said so that money in the trust he set up is safe. Frankly, I wonder if he did it voluntarily or it was part of some settlement. The money that is going into the trust set up by TLC, per PA law, is what Kate controls. Why would she have to disclose to Jon what is in those accounts?
@TLC stinks (86) We know what happened to Kevin and Kendra.They spoke out and got harassed by the fans.The other 2 siblings (Christen or Clairissa)i don't think anyone knows anything about those 2.The Kate fans insist these are the 2 siblings Kate talks to but i have doubts.Cause like i said before i don't believe Kate's BS that she wants to protect their privacy(she won't even protect her children's privacy).Here's the article of Kendra speaking out http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2546705/Kate-Gosselins-family-friends-reveal-trail-hurt-left-pursuit-celebrity.html
The money that is going into the trust set up by TLC, per PA law, is what Kate controls. Why would she have to disclose to Jon what is in those accounts?
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I can't imagine she does nor should. It's my guess that Kate draws out of the kids' accounts to support them, and she's got an enormous nest egg for her retirement once the pimping is done for good.
College costs are rising. According to the College Board, a moderate in-state college now averages $24,000 per academic year. No telling if that trust Jon set up will cover 4 years of college for each tup when they reach 18. The twins may be ok. And some will skip college. I bet there won't be a penny coming from Kate unless there is filming. Hopefully Jon got decent advice on setting up the trust.
Right, Tucker's Mom. It's mine all mine. No wonder Steve hangs around.
Admin (#84), for me, the church thing is very significant because she and Jon absolutely sold themselves as Christians. They went to churches across the country with their hands out, talking about faith and blessings. They told us their daughters' middle names were the fruits of the spirit. They were closing on a new house while taking money from people who thought this poor young couple was in desperate need. We've seen their speaking engagement contracts and requirements. It smacks of hypocrisy to me to
market yourself as people of faith, and then completely abandon that "angle" once your pockets are lined. And remember, TFW herself said she made her life our business, and that's why I am
commenting.
College costs are rising. According to the College Board, a moderate in-state college now averages $24,000 per academic year
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That includes room and board. They can commute to Millersville University (state university) for less than $10,000 per year, excellent education, reasonable tuition costs, much less expensive than a private college. They could live off-campus as many kids do. Of course, commuting from home would mean remaining with her for an additional four years until they can totally break free.
There is still time for them to figure all of that out. Tech schools and HACC is always an option.
TLC stinks (#86), I'm not sure I'm convinced TFW is an introvert. That word connotes a degree of shyness and insecurity, which I don't think are in her. I think she's as arrogant as they come, and I read her behavior as standoffish. We've all seen her light up in front of celebrities. I don't think a true introvert could turn it on and off like that. And remember her twirling at Disney World like a princess, and asking Jon if the camera was on? She's no wallflower.
I do think it's significant that the faith Kate claimed was so very important to her appears to be gone now. Either she was lying then or she has had a severe crisis of faith that just never happened to come up in a show which shows their whole lives. I personally think it's the former. If she really had that deep faith, it would have hurt very deeply to lose it. We have seen no indication of that. If she wanted to, she could go to church. If she acted like a normal person, the others there would treat her like a normal person. There wouldn't be chaos. She could put the kids in Sunday School and join a Thursday morning Bible study group. But she doesn't even go on Christmas and Easter any more.
It is very odd that she appears to have no activities in her life. Either for herself or her children. Or even hobbies like knitting or painting.
Kate used Jesus/God just as she does everything else. He/She/It was there to grant her materialistic prayers and give her an in to a another group she could use. I don't know Jon's feelings on religion, but it never felt like they were very deep or thought out. Like most of his life.
Tucker's Mom said... 95
I can't imagine she does nor should. It's my guess that Kate draws out of the kids' accounts to support them, and she's got an enormous nest egg for her retirement once the pimping is done for good.
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I can see her doing it too.
Here is your paltry little trust fund after I spent most of it on you. The other money is "Mine all Mine". It was her cut of the show, her books, her speeches, her house(which I don't believe she will let the kids have), her grifting, her cars, her work at settling contracts, her production position, her endorsements for products...
I am glad they get the 15% but really feel they deserved more. If it had been a family show with only one kid that kid would have gotten the whole 15% by themself. Also most of it should have been put away and kept from Kate's greedy hands.
I wonder if there is any chance that some kids or all kids could sue and get part of her money afterwards if they want it. I sure hope so.
I believe the house is in a trust, so the only way the kids get it is when she croaks, if they are the ones to inherit per her will. Putting it in a trust avoids probate. Lovely property but it'll never appreciate much given the location.
Aaack...stuffed beef heart !! (Not that I can actually remember what it tastes like. )
This is a meal my siblings & I use to illustrate the meals our French Canadian mother used to spring on us - when we least expected it. Horse meat was another "surprise" meal - served only once mind you. She couldn't stand the "not Black Beauty !!!! " carry on.
Lanc Native, you are right. There are cheaper alternatives. But these kids are ENTITLED.
Flimsy, you aren't imagining it. Kate tweeted that a field trip was boring. I can't remember which one it was, but it was a nature hike, maybe to Kelly's Run down in Holtwood. It is anything but boring. I recall laughing at the time, thinking about her negotiating the terrain in heels! Jon did a field trip with the kids to a quirky countryside and enjoyed it, with no complaining.
She did indeed tweet during a parent program at school designed for parents to get a feel of their kids' various classes. If memory serves me, I think she was in the Spanish class at the time. Don't quote me on that, however!
Regarding school absences in US, there may be other consequences not outlined in the handbook, such as eligibility for taking AP courses.
AuntieAnn, I checked my Mennonite Cookbook and it's not in there, but here is the one closest to the way I make mine. If the spirit moves me, I will add some roasted chestnuts and some apples to the mix. I do have the recipe for pig's stomach, if you are so inclined to make it! LOL! Do you need to know what to do with tripe or chow-chow?
http://alanskitchen.com/PENN_DUTCH/Meat/Beef/Stuffed_Beef_Heart.htm
Ingrid said... 103
Tucker's Mom said... 95
I can't imagine she does nor should. It's my guess that Kate draws out of the kids' accounts to support them, and she's got an enormous nest egg for her retirement once the pimping is done for good.
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I can see her doing it too.
Here is your paltry little trust fund after I spent most of it on you. The other money is "Mine all Mine". It was her cut of the show, her books, her speeches, her house(which I don't believe she will let the kids have), her grifting, her cars, her work at settling contracts, her production position, her endorsements for products...
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Didn't she and Jon refuse to spend their own money on the kids and instead said that the sextuplets were owed state money? If I remember that money wasn't really theirs either because it was all from Jon's dad but was put aside, tens of thousands they wouldn't spend, instead wanted the Pennsylvania to pay.
According to her journal, praying was all about being rewarded with material things. She is a fraud and cheated the church congregations. She played the Christian card and the churches fell for it because she insisted she would not consider selective abortion. It was not about belief; it was about having as many multiples as she could carry. That was the plan all along.
Eight is More Than Enough said... 108
I remember something like that.
Didn't she and Jon refuse to spend their own money on the kids and instead said that the sextuplets were owed state money? If I remember that money wasn't really theirs either because it was all from Jon's dad but was put aside, tens of thousands they wouldn't spend, instead wanted the Pennsylvania to pay.
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Kate made a plea to the state to continue care for the six beyond the year that they already had gotten, claiming that she couldn't adequately care for them. She said that medical science made multiple births possible, so society should provide care for them. The state ruled against them.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1400462/posts
http://www2.readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=140514
According to her journal, praying was all about being rewarded with material things.
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Yes, it's called the Prosperity Gospel. Kate was really into that.
it's called the Prosperity Gospel. Kate was really into that. 112
Katie gave up on God when she sold her soul and her children to TLC.
It has occurred to me that those eight children are essentially indentured servants.
How times have changed:
http://www2.readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=140504
Notice all the religious references.
“The majority of what we made, I personally took and put in a college fund for [the kids] because they will go to college,” Kate herself said in late 2013. “So I use coupons, we don’t wear the top brands. Those things to me really aren’t overly important, but college, school and their house, where they live is important.”
Ingrid said...
I am glad they get the 15% but really feel they deserved more. If it had been a family show with only one kid that kid would have gotten the whole 15% by themself.
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My understanding is the children each earn a certain amount per episode, and whatever the amount is, 15% of that figure is put at in a trust for them. That would be 15% EACH child.
So if each child earns $10,000 per episode then $1500 of it is put in a trust for them. That would be $80,000 total earned and $12,000 put in trust. I don't know where the other 85% of each child's earnings go. Maybe a savings account? Or maybe it's all put in the trust etc. but the law only says 15% of their earnings must go in a trust.
And of that 15% in the trust, Kate can use it towards expenses to raise them.
That's MY understanding of it.
Anyone else know otherwise? Admin?
And what happens to the other 85% earned by each child? Can they buy a car or whatever else they want with it? Since they earned it?
Coogan's Law
In January 1, 2000, changes in California law affirmed that earnings by minors in the entertainment industry are the property of the minor, not their parents. Since a minor cannot legally control their own money, California Law governs their earnings and creates a fiduciary relationship between the parent and the child. This change in California law also requires that 15% of all minors’ earnings must be set aside in a blocked trust account commonly known as a Coogan Account.
Coolants Law:
NLJ: That law was revised again in 2000. Why?
B.S.: It got changed for a few reasons. One, the law did not apply to contracts with minors that weren't court approved. A lot more weren't court approved than were court approved — that's just a gut feeling. And the other reason was to make it a fixed percentage, rather than discretionary percentage. And so the fixed percentage has now become 15%.
The issue that really attracted my interest was the change to make the money belong to the minor. The child actor has ownership of all of their earnings and 15% of those earnings are going to be put into a blocked Coogan account. Before the amendment, which was effective on Jan. 1, 2000, the child's money belonged to the mom and dad. All of it belonged to Mom and Dad.
NLJ: Have those changes improved things for child actors?
B.S.: There was a hole left in the law, and the hole is that if parents do nothing, then the other 85% of the money isn't being protected. There's nobody to make sure that the money gets used in the best interest of the child. So, responsible parents aren't the issue. The problems are irresponsible parents. And the problem has been irresponsible parents since Jackie Coogan's parents ripped him off.
NLJ: Can you give me an example?
B.S.: I handled a case for one child. She came to me because the producers and the studio were concerned about how her parents were behaving on the set because it was disturbing the production. And Mom and Dad were handling the child's money and living very well with it. I set up a guardianship with the child with a third party as the guardian. This woman was 16 years old at the time. And we got the money put aside for her. Unfortunately, during the time her parents were handling her money, they had never paid income taxes on the child's behalf. So when she turned 18, and she was now entitled to all this money, it came with a price tag because the IRS and the [California] Franchise Tax Board both came after her for the taxes for all the years she had been a child actress, and we worked out the best deal we could. They also had Coogan accounts, but the Coogan accounts that were there for her benefit were wiped out by the taxes.
NLJ: Do you hear a lot about irresponsible parents of child actors?
B.S.: Anecdotally, I'd say no, I don't hear a whole lot of stories about parents misusing their money.
NLJ: Most people are familiar with Coleman's story. How often do these disputes end up in court?
B.S.: It doesn't go to court because nine times out of 10 children don't sue their parents for abusing them — whether it's physical abuse or any kind of abuse, including financial abuse.
http://www.vrmlaw.com/sitecontent/media/news/Coogan-Law-Loophole-Leaves-Child-Actors-at-Financial-Risk.pdf
Please note that I gave info for coogans law that does not apply to Pennsylvania. I think Rep Murt set up something similar though. ????
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"There was a notable multiple birth in Chester County in October 2001, when Jeffrey and Jennifer Brown of Honey Brook had quintuplets in a Montgomery County hospital. They also have a daughter."
I never heard of these people..I wonder if they still live in Honey Brook, and how they have gotten the kids to 14 without a reality show...
Rep Murt's Bill:
Last year, Murt’s investigation into child labor in reality TV revealed a state law so antiquated that children under 7 cannot legally appear on a television series filmed in the state.
House Bill 1548 allows children on television, but limits the hours a child can work. The bill also makes sure a studio teacher is on set so a child actor’s education is provided for.
Among the reforms in House Bill 1548, children under 16 on a film set must be accompanied by a parent or guardian at all times. They can work no more than eight hours a day or 48 hours per week, and minors must finish work by 10 p.m. on school nights.
The bill also requires that trust accounts be established for minor actors, in which the employer must deposit 15 percent of the child’s gross earnings. “It’s the only way to make sure a portion of the child’s earnings are there for them when they reach adulthood,” Murt said.
The bill also defines the term "reality program" to make sure the children who appear on reality TV have the same protections as the children on a movie set.
“By reforming Pennsylvania’s child labor laws, we will fuel TV and film production,” Murt said. “This bill gives the industry the clear legal guidelines it has asked for, and ensures that child performers are paid and their health is protected.”
State Representative Thomas Murt
152nd District, Pennsylvania House of Representatives
http://www.repmurt.com/NewsItem.aspx?NewsID=11653
http://www.dailylocal.com/article/DL/20020121/TMP01/301219986
http://www.pottsmerc.com/article/MP/20021001/NEWS01/310019995
It looks like they might havem moved to Berks County before kindergarten:
http://www2.readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=57224
That's the last article I could find about them.
CC, thanks for posting all that information. I, too, am still fuzzy on a lot of the facts regarding the G kids' pay, and the PA child labor laws.
I think one of TFW's worst moments was Celebrity Wife Swap, when she let a total stranger into her home, along with an ABC crew (no crew daddies there), to essentially parent her children for a week. The G kids didn't know these people.
Yes, Deanna was there, but she wasn't an old family friend, so I don't consider her a comfort person for the kids. But I guess she was enlisted as "guardian." It's like the kids were lab rats in some kind of crazy televised experiment. Meanwhile, Mom got to travel to LA to get her camera time, and ditch her kids for a week, and collect a nice paycheck at the end. Did anyone ever mention the elephant in the room -- that she was nobody's wife? If there was a Celebrity Shrew Swap, that'd be right up her alley.
TLC stinks said... 116
“The majority of what we made, I personally took and put in a college fund for [the kids] because they will go to college,” Kate herself said in late 2013. “So I use coupons, we don’t wear the top brands. Those things to me really aren’t overly important, but college, school and their house, where they live is important.”
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What good does it do to scream, They are going to college, everyone of them when she yanks them out to film anytime she wants!!!
You can't take your kids out of school as much as she has and still does and expect them to be top academic scholars by the time college time comes around. Some kids have a hard time in school when they are there all the time.
Is she hoping that some kids don't go to college and she thinks that she can claim it as hers? She is that evil and greedy.
When my 3 ds's were out for the summer, I remember a couple of summers they didn't write a word or read a book. I was concerned about it. All they would do is get up, eat breakfast and PLAY all day outside, all summer. Come in for water, food or first aid. When it was time to go back to school, they would get back to normal.
I am so glad they played all day till dark all summer. Compared to the kids today, what kid even goes outside to plays kick the can? Hide and seek? It didn't hurt my ds's to play all summer. They grew up and have degrees and great jobs.
I think that the kids won't have much at all when they all turn 18. I hope the kids won't have to write books and do media tours to make money to make up what that their mother of theirs stole from them.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 124
CC, thanks for posting all that information. I, too, am still fuzzy on a lot of the facts regarding the G kids' pay, and the PA child labor laws.
I think one of TFW's worst moments was Celebrity Wife Swap, when she let a total stranger into her home, along with an ABC crew (no crew daddies there), to essentially parent her children for a week. The G kids didn't know these people.
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It was a horrifying thing to do to your kids! A total stranger, crew daddies they didn't know. UGH! To assign Deanna as guardian was disgusting.
The looks on the kids faces when they realized their mother was going to be gone for a week was pitiful. Even Kendra, a stranger, CRIED her eyes out at what the kids had to go through everyday!
A stranger CRIED because of what TFW forces those kids to do through everyday! No downtime, no play. When it was over with and when Deanna and TFW met in front of the hotel to discuss what happened, Deanna ran up to TFW and like a middle school teenager said, Oh, I have got STUFF TO TELL YOU! TFW's eyes rolled back into her head! Since then, we found out how TFW forced the nannies to listen into Jon's phone calls with the kids. Remember TFW said, you be me and report what you hear to ME!
I wonder what the help had to call her? Kate?
Ms. Gosselin? Ma'am? Fuhrer?
CC, according to Murt's law, the kids earn a total of 15% of the gross proceeds. Whatever that 15% is, it is put into a trust by TLC but Kate has control of the money. For example, an episode pays $40,000. 15% of that $40,000 is $6000 (divided by 8 equals $750 per kid). The $6000 goes into a trust. Don't know if it's a lump sum or there are accounts for each child. They did eight episodes this season so the kids earned $48,000 gross but there are taxes on that income. Not sure when the taxes are taken out. All the money the kids earn goes into that trust account. It's not 15% per child, it's 15% of the gross pay that is divided by eight.
Murt's law does not follow Coogan. Kate can use the kids' trust money for their health, safety, education and welfare. In other words, there is a high probability there will be little to no money left when the kids turn 18.
TLC stinks (#127), if Kate can use the kids' trust money for their "health, safety, education and welfare," that would explain her dissertation on the extraordinary importance of a new deck. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't enough money left for college bumper stickers, let alone college educations.
I can guarantee you Rep. Murt was lobbied by TLC. The trust account is too watered down. That's the way it works in politics; the interested parties lobby the politicians. The law is better than nothing, but still inadequate. California's is best.
I posted Kate's college fund statement because Jon has said he took his money and put it in a college fund. Did they both contribute? Is someone lying? Neither parent went to college so are they just walking the walk about saving money for college? Baffling.
So TFW said in 2013, "I use coupons, we don’t wear the top brands." Still trying to keep up the piecing-and-patching storyline. How stupid does she think we are? Does she not realize we know she somehow always finds money for her hair extensions? Her nails? Her botox injections and other cosmetic procedures? Her monthly spa retreats she recently admitted to? Her at-home yoga sessions? Her many "helpers?"
Again, no one would begrudge her these things,
if she wasn't so darn disingenuous about her lifestyle. Like when she said a few years ago that they never take "posh" trips. What the heck would you call that luxury Hawaiian vacation?
Utah? Australia? She tries to rewrite history,
and it makes her seem like a horrible phony.
Waddya mean that they don't wear top brands?
Didn't we just have a whole episode about her and the twins shopping in high-end boutiques for clothes?
Talking about posh lifestyles....
Not only does she have in-home yoga lessons, she has an in-home dog groomer.
She must think she's a Kardashian or something.
Who is the guardian when TLC films kids and Kate in obviously separate locales?
Exactly, Flimsy. I doubt TLC footed the entire bill for the deck, thus the explanation on air and the blog about how much they needed that deck to relieve stress and the made up safety reason. Really? Justifying using the kids' money? She is totally transparent.
TLC Stinks said,
CC, according to Murt's law, the kids earn a total of 15% of the gross proceeds. Whatever that 15% is, it is put into a trust by TLC but Kate has control of the money. For example, an episode pays $40,000. 15% of that $40,000 is $6000 (divided by 8 equals $750 per kid). The $6000 goes into a trust. Don't know if it's a lump sum or there are accounts for each child. They did eight episodes this season so the kids earned $48,000 gross but there are taxes on that income. Not sure when the taxes are taken out. All the money the kids earn goes into that trust account. It's not 15% per child, it's 15% of the gross pay that is divided by eight.
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I disagree. It states:
"The bill also requires that trust accounts be established for minor actors, in which the employer must deposit 15 percent of the child’s gross earnings. “It’s the only way to make sure a portion of the child’s earnings are there for them when they reach adulthood,” Murt said."
That means that whatever the child earns for that episode, 15% of it (gross amount) is put in a trust to assure that they have at least 15% of their earnings for their future.
They don't "earn 15% of the gross proceeds" from the entire episode. They have the amount they are paid, whatever that is per episode, and 15% of THAT amount is put in a trust for them. So (for example only) if they earn $10,000 an episode each, they each get $1,500 put into a trust, and the remaining $8,500 each is.... ???? Floating around somewhere? Savings, checking, Kate's wallet...
Apparently the law says it's the kids' money but there is no law telling what has to be done with it legally and they would have to sue Kate for that money if she doesn't put it in an account for them, or in the trust with the rest of the funds.
The law only protects 15% of their gross earnings. That's it.
Here is the actual PA law regarding filming in PA:
(2) All of the following govern the child performer trust account or qualified tuition program
established under paragraph (1):
(i) The parent or legal guardian shall establish the account for the benefit of the minor.
(ii) The parent or legal guardian shall provide to the employer the information necessary to
enable the employer to transfer funds into a child performer trust account or qualified tuition
program. The information shall be provided on or before the start of paid employment.
(iii) The employer shall transfer to the child performer trust account not less than 15% of:
(A) total compensation prior to all taxes, deductions and commissions payable to the minor
or the minor's parent or guardian under contract; or
(B) in the case of payment to a third party, total compensation paid to the third party for
the minor's services.
(Excerpt from page 7)
http://filminpa.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Child_Labor_Act_revised_2013_Jan_via_L-I.pdf
TLC stinks said... 135
Exactly, Flimsy. I doubt TLC footed the entire bill for the deck, thus the explanation on air and the blog about how much they needed that deck to relieve stress and the made up safety reason. Really? Justifying using the kids' money? She is totally transparent.
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Suing Jon was for their well being/health/welfare and safety.
It makes no sense until you realize that Kate has sole discretion on how to spend the kids' funds. Then, you begin to notice that Kate uses the same words to explain away a lot of huge expenditures.
Re:MOPS and other social groups for Kate. These groups depend on COOPERATION, dealing with imperfect humans, being there to be MUTUALLY supportive. Could you imagine The Sunshine Club of Berks County (made up name) holding a charity event for a local need and the volunteer responsible for borrowing tables brought them undusted? Or, heaven forbid, get there later than Kate so she had to **gasp** WAIT? She would freak out and be immensely rude to people who just don't measure up to her random specifications.
I'm feeling a little dejavu-ish right now. I hope the "procedes" were worth all that anger and nastiness.
Nah, I can't see Kate Gosselin joining any kind of social, helping, civic, fraternal, or religous group.
Just to clarify, the children do not earn 15% of the total earnings per episode and split that 15% between the 8 of them. It's not Kate 85% for her alone, plus kids 15% to split 8 ways.
Kate earns X dollars for her appearance and each child earns X dollars for their appearance. Of those X dollars that each child earns, 15% of each X is put in a trust for each child.
It clearly states that "a portion of the child's earnings are there for them when they read adulthood." So a portion, or 15%, of all their earnings is guaranteed to be in a trust for them when they turn 18. I'd like to know where the 85% of all their earnings are. I truly hope it's been put in accounts for them and they have that money when they are adults. Those kids should have 100% of their earnings, not just 15%.
Unfortunately, Kate LEGALLY only has to account for the 15% of their earnings, as the parent she sets up the trust. The employer (TLC) puts the 15% in the trusts directly. If the kids want to go after their other 85% they would have to sue Kate for it.
This concerns the money in the trust:
(x) The minor's parent or legal guardian may serve as custodian. If the child performer trust
account reaches at least $150,000 or a higher amount set by the department through regulation,
a trust company or independent custodian shall be appointed.
(xi) Proceeds of the child performer trust account shall remain in trust until the minor reaches
at least 18 years of age. Proceeds may be distributed to the minor before 18 years of age only
for the minor's legitimate health and educational needs. Proceeds may remain in trust for
distribution to the minor after 18 years of age if the parent or guardian determines that it would
serve the health, education and financial interests of the minor.
http://filminpa.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Child_Labor_Act_revised_2013_Jan_via_L-I.pdf
CC, I see what u are saying.
CC, I read in http://www.cardozolawandgender.com/uploads/2/7/7/6/2776881/489-519.pdf
that it is 15% of the gross proceeds from the show, not 15% of a salary they are paid. It is confusing, Where is the actual wording of the law and an interpretation?
"It has to be done for the safety and future of my kids," she told Savannah Guthrie
http://www.today.com/popculture/kate-gosselin-suing-jon-it-has-be-done-safety-future-4B11242627
From Robert Hoffman's book...
Conception Date: February 17, 2010? That means that one hundred and sixteen (116) episodes of Jon & Kate Plus Ei8ht were filmed with absolutely zero money being put aside for the children. Twenty-seven episodes of Kate Plus Ei8ht were filmed after February 17, 2010.
“At least 15 percent of the gross proceeds, due to the children, must be placed in trust funds until they reach the age of 18 or unless needed for their safety, education, welfare or health.”
" Guess who gets to decide on and withdraw the kid’s money for ‘safety, education, welfare or health’ needs? Kate Gosselin, and there’s no system in place to question her as to why she’s removing the kid’s money. Just her word. The only reason Kate Gosselin has any money at all is because of her eight children being filmed and exploited for our entertainment. Her spinoff solo show, Kate Plus Ei8ht never even made it out of the testing stages. “It was a total failure from the get go because she is terribly boring and annoying and nobody wanted to see just Kate Gosselin. They want to see the kids.” A TLC employee told me off the record.
So out of every thousand dollars that the kids earned from filming, Kate got $850 while each Gosselin child got eighteen dollars and seventy-five cents…unless Kate decides to take it for herself. Kate got $850 per $1,000. Each Gosselin child might possibly get $18.75. If they’re lucky."
http://www.amazon.com/KATE-GOSSELIN-FOOLED-WORLD-UNEDITED-ebook/dp/B018V1AW2A/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1455234478&sr=1-1&keywords=kate+gosselin+how+she+fooled+the+world
So the law suit she filed against Jon & Robert could have been paid for with the childrens money since she told anyone who would listen she HAD to file for the "safety and future of her children"
So the law suit she filed against Jon & Robert could have been paid for with the childrens money since she told anyone who would listen she HAD to file for the "safety and future of her children"
February 12, 2016 at 11:33 AM
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You really have to wonder when Kate uses such absurd verbiage. The sheeple accept the prima facie inferences she makes.
So the law suit she filed against Jon & Robert could have been paid for with the childrens money since she told anyone who would listen she HAD to file for the "safety and future of her children"
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Many expenses she incurs can be "fudged" for the safety and welfare of her children, such as the home security system, medical expenses, car maintenance, and so forth.
TLC Stinks
I think what the law states and what Murt's site states is just worded more accurately.
It IS 15% of the gross proceeds from the show but it's 15% of the gross proceeds from the show that THEY earned. Not from the gross proceeds of the show as a whole. And it's each child. They aren't a unit as much as Kate likes to portray them as such. They are individual performers, just like Kate is.
Even if it was 15% of the entire proceeds from show it would have to be 15% EACH. That's not mathematically possible. It's 15% of each child's earning put in trust. So each kid is only guaranteed 15% of their hard earned money. However, Kate can use that 15% towards their "health and education." So they'd get less in cash when they turn 18.
TFW had better make an appearance on Twitter soon. Her timeline is D.E.A.D.
And now for something completely different: there has been this not very well planned camping trip that has caused quite a bit of consternation and confusion in Oregon. Mainly what person in their right mind would occupy a wild life refuge in the middle of nowhere in the middle of winter? The occupation is over now and this article made me think of some fans of tfmjg.
http://www.salon.com/2016/02/12/the_bundy_brigades_delusional_last_stand_what_the_failed_wing_nut_revolt_really_tells_us/
For more things completely different, Amazing Race new season starts tonight! New season of Survivor starts Wednesday! Faceoff is great fun, Agent Carter is great fun, Big Bang Theory is very funny and is having their 200th episode on February 25.
she told anyone who would listen she HAD to file for the "safety and future of her children"
For the health and safety of the children is code for she's using their money to pay for something she's to cheap to use her own money on.
CC--I also tried to explain this a couple of months ago, and I completely agree with your interpretation. Unlike the case of a child performer, the parents also were employed as "talent" (industry term--not mine!). Since this is the case, it seems like an amount would be stipulated for each child. To interpret it any other way would mean that if there was one child, that si glee child would be entitled to the entire 15%, and if there were 10 children, their cut would be 1.5%.
TLC stinks--a hospital diploma degree is a college degree. An RN associate degree is a college degree. Every single one of her credits earned would transfer to an accredited school to college a BS . I am not going to quibble as to whether anyone thinks she did not complete a college degree, but to categorically state that she never attended college is just plain incorrect. A hospital diploma program is typically one year longer than a 2 year junior college AA degree programs, with the exact same college courses required to sit for the RN exam. Hospital programs typically require more hand-on time with patients.
All RNs sit for the sexact same certification program, whether it is a 2 year, 3 year or 4 year degree. The field has changed, and hospitals are increasingly requiring BSN's. But that doesn't change the fact that she earned a nursing diploma, which is a type of college degree.
TFW had better make an appearance on Twitter soon. Her timeline is D.E.A.D.
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Did TFW's check to PR Gladys come back marked insufficient funds?
I personally don't care whether Kate went to college or not, etc, but would the comparison be like getting a GED diploma vs actually attending High School and getting a diploma. The GED is the equivalent, but you can't technically say you went to high school, or graduated high school.
Or is that not a fair comparison?
I'm just asking because it seems to me getting the equivalent of a college degree is not the same as going to college. ???
CC said...
I think what the law states and what Murt's site states is just worded more accurately.
It IS 15% of the gross proceeds from the show but it's 15% of the gross proceeds from the show that THEY earned. Not from the gross proceeds of the show as a whole. And it's each child. They aren't a unit as much as Kate likes to portray them as such. They are individual performers, just like Kate is.
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You'll have to go back to the posts here from @ 2009? when TLC was suing Jon and he and TFW were divorcing and read @ how the settlement was worded. The kids were not paid separately from Jon and TFW - the ruling stated specifically that the kids were not separately paid participants and this was when the DOL told them 15% of gross proceeds had to be set aside for them. There was a huge discussion here about how this meant the kids were actually going to be paid so little, especially considering their parent's income from the show.
At the time this was all taking place, the documents were posted online and I soooo wish I'd taken screenshots of them, but, unfortunately, I didn't since this issue has come up so frequently since then.
Logically, to you and me, the kids are individual performers and should be paid accordingly, but neither TLC, the DOL, nor PA considered them to be such and that's where the comments have come from @ how little the kids earn AND how tiny their trust/s may be since TFW has the option to use the funds for their health, education, welfare. Unfortunately, the Gosselin kids don't live in CA and they're not protected by the Coogan Law. Murt's bill definitely helped their situation, but it still left a number of clauses that are up for interpretation - as we've done many times here at RTVKids. lol
All RNs sit for the sexact same certification program
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What sexact would that be? ;)
" I am not going to quibble as to whether anyone thinks she did not complete a college degree, but to categorically state that she never attended college is just plain incorrect"
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I think that what is being said here is that she did not physically attend a four-year college or university, which she didn't. She may have earned the equivalency of that, but she was not enrolled at a college where she would have taken mandatory courses in, for example, English, government, electives, etc. all required for graduation.
Carole,
Hi. I was here for all that. Yes, I know the kids weren't paid at all until they were reported for not paying them. The kids didn't even get retro pay! It was like Ok from now on pay them, etc. those kids got screwed.
My comments today are regarding the new laws that took place in PA just a couple of years ago. The ones that Murt got put in place. From that time forward each child gets paid and 15% of their pay goes in a trust, and yes, Kate can use it for health and education. I still want to know where the 85% goes.
From this blog, Sept. 2010, the same time K+8 got the booth. Link to hearing is there.
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2010/09/harrisburg-child-labor-hearings.htm
Anonymous (#24) was watching the hearing while making notes to share with 15 Minuters.
Wow, CC, thanks for explaining. So bottom line: we have no idea what the kids earn and what goes in the trust. And unfortunately, Kate controls it all.
I had no idea Kate's nursing degree was the same as a college degree. She has such poor language skills, she simply does not sound like someone who went to college!
Anyway, the salary discussion is interesting and I would love to know where the money goes too. I really fear there will be nothing for the kids in the end. It's a sham she controls the spending from their trust.
And the bill was signed into law in 2012.
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2012/10/pa-rep-murts-child-labor-bill-signed.html
Just came across this.
Cleaning and scrubbing can wait 'til tomorrow
For babies grow up
We've learned to our sorrow
So quiet down cobwebs and dust go to sleep
I'm rocking my baby, and babies don't keep
Author: Ruth Hulburt Hamilton
My dental hygienist, who was around 60 at the time, she was asking me about my kids this is when I was first having them and she told me about her son, Scotty. She told me to SAVOR and CHERISH every moment with them because you never know when you won't be able to. She told me that she wished that she had left the dirty dishes in the sink and went out and played ball with her son. She said she could of done them when he went to sleep.
Then she said her son was missing and she hadn't seen or heard from him for 6 months and didn't know if he was dead or alive. He must of been in his late 30's.
I had no idea Kate's nursing degree was the same as a college degree. She has such poor language skills, she simply does not sound like someone who went to college!
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You would be appalled if you could see the language skills (or lack thereof) that so many college students have today. I am forever banging my head as I wonder how they ever got to a school of higher learning. It's pathetic.
Thanks to Sascha for retweeting this 2008 article. The comments are worth reading - very little has changed.
Reasons I Really Dislike Kate Gosselin… - mommymusings.com/reasons-i-hate…
@Jane Did nothing change?It could be just me.Its been a while since i go on tabloid articles.I don't know what you guys think but i felt like in the comments about Kate there was an increase amount of Kate fans going on there and saying"Well i like to see any of you haters raise 8 kids by yourself!"and some other comments.But it could be just me cause on the other hand,TMZ kate on a date article comments had alot of negative feedback.
Hey Redbird, I had that poem taped on my fridge for many, many years!Thanks for posting it!
CC said...
CC said... 152
I personally don't care whether Kate went to college or not, etc, but would the comparison be like getting a GED diploma vs actually attending High School and getting a diploma. The GED is the equivalent, but you can't technically say you went to high school, or graduated high school.
Or is that not a fair comparison?
I'm just asking because it seems to me getting the equivalent of a college degree is not the same as going to college. ???
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I don't think it is a fair comparison unless you feel that an associates degree from a junior college is not a true college degree. A diploma from a hospital program is a type of college degree, just the same as an associate degree.
Really autocorrect! Correcting a misspelled "exact" to sexact?
Fleecing the steeple said...
I think that what is being said here is that she did not physically attend a four-year college or university, which she didn't. She may have earned the equivalency of that, but she was not enrolled at a college where she would have taken mandatory courses in, for example, English, government, electives, etc. all required for graduation.
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It isn't the equivalent of a 4 year degree--it a unique type of diploma that is midway between an associate and bachelor degree. therefore, an RN with an associate degree would need another 2 years of coursework to earn a BSN and a hospital diploma will take one year. this could vary depending on individual school requirements--I am speaking in general terms. For the most part, hospital diploma programs are being phased out. Many of the teaching hospitals are affiliated with university programs.
OT for dog people.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VDrabmm421I
I hope that a little of the kids' money will be left when they are grown up. It's tough to say. The 85% though likely goes right into Kate's bank accounts. If you are a 15 yr old with a job at the pool, you earn money which should be yours. But you could have parents who make you give them the money. Or they start charging you rent or whatever. What can you do? You give it to them or run away from home. That's a tough decision. I don't know if you would be allowed to sue them later for that money or not. IANAL but I suspect the court couldn't do much.
You now have the Gosselin kids. No money was set aside for years and it was all legal. Now some money is set aside but Kate can use it for things like their expensive school. Now maybe they could sue her and say where's the rest of my money. But I suspect they don't really earn that much and Kate can say I gave you a beautiful house and computers and an allowance, etc. These kids do not seem to have a lawyer representing their interests in contract negotiations. I'm sure Kate gets the majority of the money and also gets paid in trips and decks and gift cards that don't give the kids any money. And you have to know that Kate is using every trick she can to hide that money. You would need a good forensic accountant to find it all.
I have one thought on the college money. Jon could believe that college is paid for if the money is in a 529 account. (I think that's right.) You save for college and I believe the money can only be used for higher education. They may also have both Jon's and Kate's names on them.
I think one of the seemingly few admirable things Kate has done was to complete her education to become a registered nurse. I don't believe her upbringing was conducive to the pursuit of higher education. Her desire, discipline, and completion was a notable achievement.
That didn't hurt as much to say as I thought it might.
One thing that has bothered me is the claim by some that Kate lied about having PCOS, or being infertile. Infertility doesn't mean sterile.
I have pcos, I've always been thin, and I've had 2 natural though unsuccessful pregnancies. PCOS meant ovulation was rare and
random in my case. I might go months or a year without a period. I was told by various gynecologists that my best chance for a successful pregnancy would be through fertility treatments.
Now as far as what took place before and during her pregnancy with the sextuplets, I don't know. Seems there's strong evidence she was going against what was prescribed.
But as far as the pregnancy in high school, absolutely possible for a girl with pcos.
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I think one of the seemingly few admirable things Kate has done was to complete her education to become a registered nurse. I don't believe her upbringing was conducive to the pursuit of higher education. Her desire, discipline, and completion was a notable achievement.
That didn't hurt as much to say as I thought it might.
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Her desire, dedication and completion of her RN certificate was because she wanted to marry a doctor and not have to work for the rest of her life.
In Robert's book, she threw herself at every doctor, even the ugly ones. When the drs. realized what she was doing, they refused to be with her. Then at the picnic there was Jon, a DRS. SON! Jackpot.
That wench even said, she missed Jon's dad SO BAD! I guess so, drawing a paycheck from him every month. Didn't he buy them one of the early houses? Then when the yard sale came up, she pitched a fit that Jon wanted to keep his dad's golf clubs and I remember her being shown holding the kids Christmas ornaments that Dr. Gosselin had picked out and gave to each child. He managed to hid it from her. I don't know if he got the ornaments or not!
WHAT A FREAKING PILE OF STEAMING DUNG!
Does she not realize the kids will see that one day and how much that could hurt them? UGH!
prairiemary said... 163
Hey Redbird, I had that poem taped on my fridge for many, many years!Thanks for posting it!
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Your welcome, prairiemary!
I do not find it admirable that she went to community college, spent two years there and earned her AA/nursing credential. Perhaps a check mark in the good column, but nothing to get excited about. And perhaps her upbringing was not conducive to pursuing higher education but it seems her siblings, whatever higher education was pursued, if any, are doing alright as well. So for me, maybe a how nice works, but nothing to get excited about. Her real career has been manipulating her fertility to extract multiples and then creating a reality show life for her children. Admirable falls far to the wayside with that. POS is more like it.
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Redbird, I don't believe anyone can truly know Kate's ENTIRE motivation and focus for becoming a nurse. I imagine a lot of people entering the field of medicine believe one of the perks will be meeting other professionals. I knew several girls in college who joked about the MRS degree. Still they studied and completed, which required discipline and dedication, sacrifice too.
I'm guessing most posters are contemptuous of Kate's every move, and everything she has ever done. I have to disagree.
I believe the copied journal entries within Hoffman's book, but stating that a nurse threw herself at every single Doctor, even the unattractive ones,(wow there's a judgment), is an opinion and does not take away from the ability to complete nursing school.
Again, Robt in his book took the opinion that Kate lied about pcos/infertility because Kate was pregnant as a teenager. That is absolutely incorrect.
I get being angry and unforgiving of abuse, still, can't deny an actual accomplishment.
From Get Real LOL TLC
This was the start of a new post.
S***, did anyone else cry themselves through the Bate's, last night? OMG, what a fabulous family, love them.
Keep in mind that Gil Bates and a son-in-law are on the board of the Gothard ministries and are named in the lawsuit alleging turning a blind eye to child sexual abuse. I thought he was a wonderful father when I heard of his special date nights with his daughters until I knew he ignored the plight of other little girls. Shame on him -- he is scum!
Just heard on the news that Lebanon, PA has had multiple accidents this morning!
Praying all of the locals are OK!
Just heard on the news that Lebanon, PA has had multiple accidents this morning!
Praying all of the locals are OK!
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Fine here, redbird. Thanks for checking. Lebanon is a rural area, with lots of winding roads and there are always accidents. It snowed last night, roads froze, and we're in a deep freeze right now with temperatures around 0 tonight, and "real feel" 10 to 20 below. We are paying for all that warm weather we had in December!
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I get what you're saying, reader, and I agree completely. No matter her motivation, she did the work and got the degree. Steaming pile of dung or not, this is one thing she actually accomplished.
Redbird said....
Her desire, dedication and completion of her RN certificate was because she wanted to marry a doctor and not have to work for the rest of her life.
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It doesn't matter what her motivation was. She had to take anatomy and physiology, microbiology, pharmacology and medical terminology. Then, she had to pass the same certification exam as a nurse who has completed her Bachelors degree.
I honestly don't know how you can sustain the level of your resentment and hatred all day, every day. It must be exhausting.
redbird, I was trying to figure out why you would hear about accidents in Lebanon, and I just checked the local news and saw the report about the 30-car pile-up in Bethel Township on I-78, due to poor visibility. I think that's what you commented about. I imagine things are a mess up there, and then there's this brutal cold to deal with. It's a heavily traveled interstate and it looks like both lanes will be closed for some time.
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I get what you're saying, reader, and I agree completely. No matter her motivation, she did the work and got the degree. Steaming pile of dung or not, this is one thing she actually accomplished.
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I agree, too. Has she been keeping her license updated? Has she ever said anything about it? I don't know what is involved in this, but I would think that she would have to take exams to complete this. If she has done this, then good for her, even if there's no chance she will ever go back to nursing.
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redbird, I was trying to figure out why you would hear about accidents in Lebanon, and I just checked the local news and saw the report about the 30-car pile-up in Bethel Township on I-78, due to poor visibility. I think that's what you commented about. I imagine things are a mess up there, and then there's this brutal cold to deal with. It's a heavily traveled interstate and it looks like both lanes will be closed for some time.
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I heard the news about the accident on the radio. I listen to my local radio stations obituary report and right before it comes on they do about 2 minutes of news and it was the first news item.
Isn't Lebanon, PA the same town where the 13 yr. old little girl was on the kik app and met a man and a woman and they killed her? That poor girl had had a liver transplant. I hope those two get the death penalty if PA has it.
They would in my state.
Also, Joyce Garrard, the grandmother who ran her granddaughter to death, died yesterday.
More OT for dog people. Roo has waking me up down to a science. It starts with her cold, wet nose.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CpbYBZKdi3s
Kate tweeted. Where is Gladys? 3,2,1...
Filming must be over and she wants everyone to know that Shoka is inside.
@Kateplusmy8: It's a rare day when I don't have 2insist that Shoka stays inside all day. Usually he rushes 4the door whenever it opens. #NotToday #ColdDog
TeamBullsh1tville @JohnySteps1337 17m17 minutes ago
@Sassccha @msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 Thats why she never sued Robert for slander but for copyright. Fans will never admit this #Fact
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Why is it so difficult to understand the difference between slander and libel?
Just a great big hi, letting you all know how much I value each and everyone's opinions, I'm not going to disagree or agree as all opinions are valid. So she got an RN, so did I and I went through Hospital Nsg degree too. The reason less term papers, less expense and less tedious subjects for electives. Until I went for my BS, then my GPA dropped to 3.8 because gah, I hated term papers esp. those on state history and nonsense. I did fair in English Comp but in hospital nursing school the classes we took were equal to community college, and the writing class was just technical writing. Although we were attached to a University and our programs had to match up to them but on transfer they only equaled a C even if we aced the class in the hospital program. That was a bummer. I went to school for personal reasons, ill family member, my dad took nsg as his degree after retirement from the military and I needed to eat after high school. Due to the shortage wen I applied the state paid a stipend weekly (a whole $23) as well as provided room and partially paid board. it was a great deal. So she accomplish getting an RN, but sense she knew she was no longer welcomed home she too had and nsg is respected career for women and I too know a few women that entered it hoping to hookup with an MD, and one that did though it was surprising she married the one she did since she had made some unsavory remarks when they originally broke up. I promise, nursing is as hard as you make it. It's memorization for the boards mostly, not magic esoteric knowledge, and builds on what you learned in HS. I don't feel particularly brilliant but I do believe that most learning comes after graduation and actually doing the job and keeping up with the journals and all the new drugs big pharma are convincing the doctors to try and poison their poor patients with.
So good on her, but not really since she didn't seem keen on actually doing the job, staying on even once a week and I doubt without a refresher unlikely to get hired much of anywhere.
All the best to all, I think I love you all.
That tweet does NOT mean she is home.
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That tweet does NOT mean she is home.
Nobody said she was home. Milo is still among the missing.
A retirement community here needs full-time nurses, and one needs a director of nursing.
Would she be qualified for the latter position? It's close to the kids' school and she would be in a position of authority!
I agree that post-high school education is a real plus
for anyone. Technical certificates, AA diplomas or Bachelors degrees, etc. are ALL designed to get you a job in your chosen field. As long as the worker fulfills the standard requirements and can do the job well I don't care what program they enter to get their basic credentials. I don't care, for example, if the woman wiring my new house has a degree in electrical engineering or took a 2 year class and apprentice program at a tech school. It's good.
Denise @Mydmaxx 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 I see it's frigid cold where you are, you and the kids and pets stay warm please. ☀️
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As opposed to frigid warm?
Stay warm? Nah, you deliberately want to make sure you're cold as cold can be. If Kate is at home, she will put on her Daisy Dukes and halter top and sit outside on Mr. Deckster in sub zero temperatures. Why would she want to stay warm?
@Sue im surprise she's not telling Kate about the freezing weather outside.Since valentine's day is tomorrow Maybe she'll try to get Kate's attention by claiming Vann is there at her house..Hope all of you are staying warm.
"I honestly don't know how you can sustain the level of your resentment and hatred all day, every day. It must be exhausting."
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I seem to remember that someone here kept hammering away on Jon for some time, not being able to move on.
"Nobody said she was home. Milo is still among the missing."
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She certainly appears to be missing something!
Denise @Mydmaxx 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 I see it's frigid cold where you are, you and the kids and pets stay warm please. ☀️
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Denise is a Milo-In-Training airhead. She likes to hear herself tweet and thinks that she is part of Kate's inner circle. Kate's friends are her friends.
Lanc Native---
You can lookup any professional licensing http://www.licensepa.state.pa.us/SearchResults.aspx
Kate's license nips currently active. Not only that, she had to have completed the required continuing education requirement to maintain active status.
As long as her license is kept active, there is no further licensing examination required. However, since she has been out of the field for many years, an employer will most likely require completion of a nursing refresher course to update her skills.
The original poster that I responded to said that neither Jon or Kate had attended college---not that she hadn't completed a Bachelors. That is just not a true statement. The science courses required for nursing schools had to have come from an accredited college, and are the exact same courses taken by pre-med.
From my previous post....
You can lookup any professional licensing http://www.licensepa.state.pa.us/SearchResults.aspx
Kate's license nips currently active
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Autocorrect definitely is on overtime! Why are the corrections always sexual?
Isn't Lebanon, PA the same town where the 13 yr. old little girl was on the kik app and met a man and a woman and they killed her? That poor girl had had a liver transplant. I hope those two get the death penalty if PA has it.
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Not hat was in VA at Virginia Tech. Tragic
Oh, you are right, localyocal. I remember now the young man was from Virginia Tech. And that girl that was involved! CRAZY!
Saw the young girls dad on Dr. Phil and he said that she was 13 and had taken a Minions cartoon blanket with her and he said it was very cold. He believes that she was just going to go and meet with him for a short time because she had to take her anti-rejection meds every night, she couldn't miss them.
They showed the girl involved her mug shot and there is a flaming red long mark on her face and her dad said he believe that his daughter did it because she was fighting for her life.
I hope they both get the death penalty in VA.
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