Filming locations include Michaels and a casual cafe. Thank you to the locals for keeping a keen eye out.
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Saturday, May 24, 2014
TLC filming for update special
After a long period of no new news about the promised "update special" from TLC, a few locals have spotted Kate and the crew filming around PA this week. Reactions from locals have been universally negative.
Filming locations include Michaels and a casual cafe. Thank you to the locals for keeping a keen eye out.
Filming locations include Michaels and a casual cafe. Thank you to the locals for keeping a keen eye out.
945 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 945 Newer› Newest»I agree..I think Mady was mouthing off to her before that scene happened. Kate looked stressed already. Maybe it had to do with filming.
I think the reason she had Mady's phone is because Mady was probably texting or just fooling around in general and got the phone taken right before the clip which is why she mouthed off to TFW. This would put the you don't trust me comment into perspective as in you don't trust me not to fool with my phone. Pure speculation but it kind of makes sense.
Lanc Native said... 120
If that clip doesn't bring Gladys out of sulking mode, I don't know what will.
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LOL Be prepared for something like "UR rockin' that vest! You go, girl!!"
I wonder how they've planned things before....the easel thing seemed to be new to them. They didn't seem at all comfortable with the process.
Yep. Just a day in the life of TFW. You know, where the production staff plans everything down to the last detail and all she has to do is show up with her extensions in and her nails done. Kids? What kids?
She probably had to be reminded which kid was which.
And another thing....who cooks in a yellow vest with matching yellow shirt? And no apron?
Old Navy must have comped her an outfit or two, eh?
I wonder if the bird pooped on it.
The dynamic between Kate and her kids is twisted, rooted in negativity, intimidation and is completely joyless.
I think Mady's outburst was rebellion against the fake, family "fun things" that are trotted out for the purposes of filming. She knows it's fake, she knows it'll mean be herded around with her younger siblings, and she has simply outgrown this. Kate still sees them dutifully grasping a rope in single file, and Mady just wants to grow up. Having said that, I think she is conflicted, she's the one in the clip who said "we missed you" to the camera. She may actually miss the show, but doesn't want to be treated as a child in front of the camera either. Mady has a voice, but it is drowned out by her mother's constant cackles, she is weary of it all, they all are.
How TFW could stand there in front of the "fun" board and expect her children to look enthused is beyond me. It comes across to them as just another long list of chores, because they know this is exactly how their mother is presenting it to them. Joyless.
As far as this clip being chosen, I believe it was a calculated decision on TLC's part. They want to show conflict to garner interest, they want to show Kate as mean-spirited to expose her, it's all for potential ratings I'm sure.
WHO admits they have given a gift to use that same gift against their own child? It is one thing to revoke a privilege, but to admit getting it as a motive to punish your child in the future is sick, truly twisted.
We do not subscribe to TLC, but watching two hours of her drain the life out of her children would be depressing. I will wait for Admin's recap and the comments here.
People.com is heavily moderating the comments. I'm surprised at some of the ones which HAVE gotten through.
great, just saw horrible clip, and read some comments, I must stress that the comment by franky is not by me. So weird they spelt it the way I do. Hmmmm...
franky
Jumping In, Great post
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Lanc Native said... 120
If that clip doesn't bring Gladys out of sulking mode, I don't know what will.
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LOL Be prepared for something like "UR rockin' that vest! You go, girl!!"
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oh funny!
franky - I think this is some new weird game that the fans/non-fans are playing. The non-fans pull fans' names and comment using them (saying how much they hate TFW) and the fans pull non-fans' names and comment using them professing their love and admiration for TFW.
I also noticed and commented on the cowering tup (Alexis) and Leah, seated, looked very worried. I'm sure this is a 'typical' scene in that house. I think TFW is going to get nothing but negative response to the 2 hour special.(except one or two 'fans')
And another thing....who cooks in a yellow vest with matching yellow shirt? And no apron?
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Our PennDOT crew.
NJ..I agree. Guess I should see it as a compliment, as they say imitation is a form of flattery, although I would never post that about Jon.
PS, TFMJG still sucks, and I hope she wasn't using a Teflon pan, it's very dangerous for birds.
franky
This clip absolutely confirms it - all eight will be out of there as soon as they reach majority age (whatever that is in Pa.). The sad thing is they will likely require social assistance because their mother has exhausted their earnings. So they will have come full circle having required State funding as infants.
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Thanks Vanessa, it worked!!
My take on Mady's comment about 'no fun things' is that Kate was embarassed by Mady because TLC was paying for all the crap they are going to be doing and Kate didn't want to appear ungrateful for more TLC freebies. But why did she have to be so horrible and mean to her child? It was uncomfortable to watch how much contempt it appeared Kate had for her kid in that moment. Those twins don't want to hang out with the other 6 anymore. That ship has sailed. Unfortunately, Kate rules with fear. She sure likes people to think she is in total control of her kids and one who doesn't take any guff from her underlings. No sirree folks, I don't put up with anything like that around here. Nope. Never. The other six are just sitting there, collecting mental notes about how they are going to overthrow the witch when their time comes. It looked to me like Kate was making sure her appearance would not give the non-fans anything to talk about. No tight shirts on the boobs and minimal make up. If she was smart, she would do the couch interviews looking the same way. When she is all glammed up sitting there hand flapping, it just makes people want to slag her because of her drastic Hollywood transformation.
Question: Do the Golden Children always remain loyal to the narcissistic mother? Or do they sometimes break away? And I'm confused about who the Gosselin golden children are. I know there's Hannah. I thought Mady was one but I'm not sure.
Jeanne said... 17
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Good question. I agree it's Hannah among the tups but I think Kate saw Mady as someone with a little talent who Disney might just be interested in...and I also think she realizes Mady will be her match one day in the control department so she tried the BFF route, but still is trying to 'break' her spirit.Mady was always a little spitfire and so far Kate has won their battles, now with taking away her phone and iPad. But not for long, as Mady gets older and wiser to her mother's tricks and will take Cara along with her.
I didn't watch the clip (on account of not wanting to lose my will to live), but I have a question about this Family Fun Board mishegas. Was it some kind of masterminding of spring break for all 8 kids? Because if they were staying in town, I would think a big part of enjoying spring break from the kids' POV would be having play dates with friends -- either at their own house, or at the friends' houses.
They're not a pack of wolves - they're 8 children with their own
needs and wants and feelings and opinions. If she's planning
group activities to the exclusion of other things, it raises a red
flag for me. There's togetherness, and then there's being
clannish. And being clannish is poor preparation for navigating
the real world, in my opinion. "Us vs. them" may not work for
TFW when she has 8 teenagers in the house in 3 years.
Mel said... 4
I wonder how they've planned things before....the easel thing seemed to be new to them. They didn't seem at all comfortable with the process.
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Is she going to unveil a timetable on that poster board? By the tone of her voice it sure didn't sound like she had 'fun' things planned. For her, maybe, but not the kids.
Franky (14)...PS, TFMJG still sucks, and I hope she wasn't using a Teflon pan, it's very dangerous for birds.
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So she decided not to take anyone's advice and the bird is still perching on her shoulder. Not only is teflon dangerous, but the bird could get spooked, hop off her shoulder and land on the stove. You never, ever cook with a bird close by.
She's got to be one of the most stupid, stubborn people that ever lived.
Mady has always been just like her mother. Remember when she would come in the house from school and start kicking things and slamming things down. Then the Utah trip she slammed the door in Kate's face and Kate demanded that Jon take care of it. She beat the crap out of one of the little girls in the new house, on CWS she said everything always has to be done Kate's way and no other way, and all she has known is work. This child needed to be gently spoken to when she was little. But apparently this is how she sees her mother and maybe she thinks this is how you do things. Cara pretty much just hides and says nothing. Wait for 3 more years. All of them in their teens will give Kate a good taste of what she has given them.
Jeanne said... 17
Question: Do the Golden Children always remain loyal to the narcissistic mother? Or do they sometimes break away? And I'm confused about who the Gosselin golden children are. I know there's Hannah. I thought Mady was one but I'm not sure.
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In my experience, the golden child remains loyal because they're narcissistic too. If the golden child actually analysed the behaviour of the parent, common decency dictates that you have to be appalled.
Here's a good article. http://narcissistschild.blogspot.ca/2012/09/keeping-secrets-10-commandments-of.html
PJ
Mel said... 4
I wonder how they've planned things before....the easel thing seemed to be new to them. They didn't seem at all comfortable with the process.
They don't get to plan things. TFW makes ALL decisions. That cutesy poo shtick was for the TV cameras, hence all the awkward uncomfortableness on the part of the children. Mady, no doubt, has had more than enough of her mother's manipulative shenanigans, and treated Uncle Crew to some of her own. What a mess.
Watching M pretty much reveals how Kate was as a child. I will never forget in a couch interview Jon was emphatic the M was just like Kate. No wonder they bump heads. My daughter is just like my husband in every way and they fought all through the teen years. But a Mady still fears her mother. Notice the quick I'm sorry off camera.
Actually she asked who wanted eggs, AFTER she had already cracked about a dozen of them and started to cook them. How would you know how many to make when you don't even know how many want them.
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Steve had already requested eggs for breakfast... :-)
Are Kates fans truely looney tunes? Several of them on teitter, watch the clip, and then say: oh, my have the kids grown? WHAT!, Have they not been paying attention to Kates twitter or watched the Today show with the twins. Do they have brain damaged? are they blindsided? Kate has posted pics of the kids, for the last 2 1/2 years on her website and especially twitter. The twins were on the Today show and in People? There are no words!
Re:dear Mady. "Fun things" to Kate means things the younger siblings might enjoy, waaaay too juvenile for Mady and Cara to enjoy. I interpret Mady's cry of protest to mean "fun things my Aunt Tootsie. It will be boring, a waste of my time and I'd prefer to go to my room and read War and Peace. No way will this activity be "fun" for me. I vote no to your fun things, Mommy."
Mady's at an age where almost anything she has to do with her younger siblings is going to be a drag. This is normal and her mother needs to be patient with this. You have to rock their socks off to get this age to be willing to hang out with their younger siblings. This too shall pass but what a terrible age to have cameras thrust in your face.
Why does Kate already have what I guess is Mady's phone BEFORE Mady was rude?
With her hair pulled back you can really see all the bald spots (jagged hair line). I wonder if she demanded Deanna for the makeup and hair?
Oh, my previous comment regarding Mady, notice how she is not even looking into the camera but off to her right when she says the we miss you comment. Wanna bet Kate was mouthing the words off camera. Bitch.
I was curious and checked some TV listings for Wednesday June 25.
CBS premiere of Big Brother, very popular in attractive demographic. guilty pleasure, I will be watching!
ABC Family will premier two series, Young and Hungry and Mystery Girls.
So You Think You Can Dance will be on Wednesdays.
I will post more updates on the competition the closer air date comes.
EEEEEEE!!!!!!!! Sunday June 29 will sear the premiere on PBS of the british comedy Vicious starting Site Ian Mckellan and Sir Derek Jacobi as a quarreling gay couple who have been together fifty years! Anything with Magneto in it, I will be watching!
I'll say one thing, Kate totally embarrassed Mady in that clip. Can't help but think her friends are getting a good laugh about it. Thirteen year olds are so concerned what their friends think. So humiliating for Mady.
Tireder: While it is not the favored usage of the word, it is indeed the Comparative Form of "tired." It has fallen out of common use in American English, but is still commonly used in British English.
(I wonder if this is something Steve says)
I was sort of under the impression there was something UNDER the white board on the easel that would reveal what their superfunthings would be. It almost looked like Kate reached for it as if she was going to whip off the whiteboard revealing the surprise for dramatic effect leading up to the squeeling and shrieking.
TLC stinks said... 34
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I wondered about that 'tireder' too! I would never think to use that. I thought it was one of Kate's made-up words.
I am curious as to why People chose this clip- wouldn't a 'funner' clip be more attractive to an potential audience?
In my own family dynamic, the golden child grew up to be most like my mother.
The golden child has a totally different upbringing, they can do no wrong, they are rewarded for tattling, given privileges others are not. They are abused, but not to the extent the others are, almost like those who say "so what, I was spanked, it was fine, not abuse". Plus the preferential treatment continues, so why should they fly the coop? It's the other children, the 2nd class citizens, so to speak, that question and rebel, and push back. It's a grotesque caricature of what a family should be, the stories I could tell...
TFMJG is still boring. I watched the clip just to see HOW boring. Award winning boring. This is a clip designed to get people interested in watching the update? Oh my goodness the editing folks must have had a tough time coming up with usable footage. This is so very boring.
The look on the other kids faces when Kate was being such a witch was heart breaking. Then her saying with great glee that she has a way to punish her little kids by taking away their gadgets was chilling. The very act of taking something away as a punishment isn't so terrible. It is very effective. But she just looked so mean and evil when she talked to the camera about it. What a witch. She is absolutely awful.
Sandie @SandieBellz 3m
I think you need new advisors. @Kateplusmy8
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One thing about Kate is it's often not so much what she does it's how she does it. Sometimes it's even subtle body language and tone, like the pouting and mimicking she did here, and the gleeful way she talked about buying iPhones just to take them away. There's a more nuanced level of dysfunction here that's harder to pin down but folks here have done so well. The sheeple will say things like taking a cell phone away is a good idea! I think most people would agree with that but it completely misses the point. But then they often miss the point.
Notice how, when Kate says she's older and tireder, they cut to a clip of her and she's giving that exaggerated "exhausted" sign. And you can see that she has cracked a total of 4 or 5 eggs. It's morning, she hasn't even made breakfast yet, the kids can get themselves up and dressed, it's spring break so she gets to sleep in, but we are to believe that the effort of cracking a few eggs just wears her out. Yeah, right.
But then they often miss the point. 41
Often is an understatement.
She also had to give Mady hell for stomping her feet and making her feel like she was losing her balance.
This coming from Kate Gosselin - the woman who clomps around like a water buffalo. Graceful she isn't.
Admind@41
Agree agree!
Poor Mady is a teenager now, and I know my teens spent their spring break having fun with their friends. Spring break is a time to relax and enjoy themselves with people their own age. Not a time to be forced into scripted activities with a pack of 10-year-olds while cameras follow them around.
When Mady said no fun stuff, she meant that she wanted to be able to spend her time off doing things SHE wanted to do. But of course she wasn't allowed, and that is so sad for her. She probably had to stick around and play with the little kids while her friends were at the mall or going to the movies or having parties. And she would resent her mother for forcing her to be excluded from the things her friends were doing. Nobody wants to be left out, especially at that age.
If you watch the video, when Mady interrupts, she has her eyebrows up and her hands too, like someone would do if they were going to say something they thought was amusing or entertaining. She wasn't scowling with her arms crossed; it looks like she thought she was going to say something she thought was witty. Should she have interrupted? No. But I think she got upset because it looks (to me) like her words were misinterpreted. And yes, Kate mocking her when she came back is bad. My mom did crap like that to me all the time and I absolutely HATED it. I hated that finger-pointing thing she does too. During our first marital argument, maybe 28 years ago, I calmly told my husband, "If you want to keep that finger, you better get it out of my face right effing now." He never did it again.
When she asked for a hand count of who wanted eggs, she zoned right in on one and said, "Is that half a hand?" Instead of just counting and counting the one whose hand was not as high, she mocks them too. She LOOKS for things to be upset about, instead of looking for the ones who comply with her demands.
Man, she has so many shades of my mother in her behavior, it gives me the shivers.
Formerly Duped said... 36
I am curious as to why People chose this clip- wouldn't a 'funner' clip be more attractive to an potential audience?
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Egads. What if this IS the "funnest" clip?
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PJ's Momma - 47
Perfect analysis. She has a mean streak she can't hide.
I just watched the preview. Shocked?? Yes and no. Yes that she still runs her household like a prison and no, Kate never has been one for learning from her past mistakes. She is NOT a mother.
......it's spring break so she gets to sleep in, but we are to believe that the effort of cracking a few eggs just wears her out. 42
Watching her absolute determination to suck not just the joy but the very life out of even the most mundane activity that involves her children is truly frightening.
Dear Kate,
Here's exhausted, in a good way. This weekend 2 of our children were home to visit,a long with a SIL and 4 grandchildren , 5 and under. We had a barbecue for 40, to welcome the new 2 month old baby. Breakfasts, lunches, dinners, baths, laundry, playtime, visits from daughters' friends. It was delightful, but being 20+ years older than you! with an arthritic knee! yes! very tiring. They left today and I have been doing laundry, dishes, pick up, what have you. You, TFW, may never know about this joyous exhaustion because you are mentally beating the crap out of your children, and this upcoming special shows NADA has changed. Do not expect them home with your grandchildren, if any of them even decide to parent after your horrible example of parenting. If anything is exhausting, it must be a child who has to live in your house.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 40
Sandie @SandieBellz 3m
I think you need new advisors. @Kateplusmy8
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LOL Who called it, was it Admin? I may not always agree with Sandie but she's not a sheep. And she's right!! LOL
Rhymes with Witch said... 51
......it's spring break so she gets to sleep in, but we are to believe that the effort of cracking a few eggs just wears her out. 42
Watching her absolute determination to suck not just the joy but the very life out of even the most mundane activity that involves her children is truly frightening.
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Yes, she's so exhausted, so much "tireder", yet her Twitter feed is (or used to be) all about determination, positivity, energy. The sheep can't see this disconnect.
So funny, I saw where some monk tweeted that TLC shouldn't air this special and the detective who must follow him tweeted "why" in reply. His next tweet said the show should be renamed khate plus 8 or something. Now it looks like the detective deleted her "why" tweet and instead retweeted the ROL article from a few days ago about Jon being "fired". That tweet from someone she follows could have been a wake up call but alas, she'll probably just start stalking him now.
NJGal51 said... 2
I think the reason she had Mady's phone is because Mady was probably texting or just fooling around in general and got the phone taken right before the clip which is why she mouthed off to TFW
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I'm catching up so sorry if this has been mentioned.
I wonder if Kate puts a moratorium on phones when filming.
A kid could tick off everything that's going on, what they're doing, where they are, etc.
"This is sooo stoopid"
"I hate having to play games with these little turds"
"Someone save me!"
"The camera man needs a bath!"
Yeah, no phones while filming.
Hmm, I wonder if TFW was worried that Mady would take pics or video the taping to send to friends and that's why she had the phone and that's why M said "you never trust me."
She is NOT a mother. 50
Except maybe in the colloquial sense......
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES 2m
@gypsi001 @CJWhodunit @TLC @Kateplusmy8 @peoplemag I believe even @KendraWilkinson on Wife Swap saw the need for order with 8 kids.(Ready#)
These sheeple, I swear, have to be the dumbest people on the face of the earth, not to understand the difference between discipline and whatever the heck kind of parenting Kate is doing.
Dear sheeple please learn the difference between disciplining and terrorizing. Kate Gosselin terrorizes her children.
The look on her face while explaining the Ipod / Iphone buying only to take away thing says it all explains her and is the reason those kids should be removed from her care.... any parent in their right mind can see there is something seriously wrong with this women :(
Formerly Duped said... 86
The special is only one hour, right? So, with past footage, couch interviews, the birthday bash, the coffee shop & Michael s, the time is filled and it shows a now- 'common' life. Yes, I agree, Kate is now a Common White 'Mom' (no offense to anyone, it's a popular hashtag and expression these days.
May 25, 2014 at 8:09 AM
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It's a TWO-HOUR update. Just read that tonight.
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I am really shocked at the video. I thought for sure that Kate would put on a super fake sweetness for this special. But then again, I thought she would have been super sweet for DWTS and Kate Plus 8. She really has a personality problem that she can't control. She has waited three years for this special and she acts like that. Shocking!
The comments on People are 90% negative as usual. Somebody said the special is at 9pm. Wow, this is great if it is true. What kids and family will be watching this in the eastern time zone to 11pm at night. I hope this time slot is designed by TLC to bring her bad ratings so they can throw it in her face. I think she has probably hounded the sh*t out of TLC for a special so they are giving her one with a bad time slot.
What is interesting is I did not see Cara in the kitchen or the den scene. Do you think it is possible that after the Today/View screw-up that she is refusing to take part in this special?
Where is the video you're all referring to? I click on this link and all I see is a picture of Kate, I don't see a video.
Am I missing something? Where is the direct link to the sneak-peek video?
Thanks
Curiosity got the better of me... I went and watch the clip. Scarred the bejezzus out of me. I think she could very well be Damian's (of "The Omen" fame...) long lost sister. Those dead eyes. That evil evil cackle.
And, mind you, TLC knows exactly what it is doing: after the RV episodes' success (hell, even Admin's boyfriend talked about it on his national show...), they finally know how to "market" Kate Gosselin: after Boo-hoo Kate, Can-Do Kate... Voodoo Kate.
Amy2 said... 13
When adopting children during pre-adoption there is a homestay interview with a social worker. Did Jen and Bill inform the social worker that the adopted children lives would be filmed? And post-adoption depending on the country the child was adopted from there are a minimum of six months of reports some in person others via forms filled out by the adoptive parents. Did the parents explain at this point the children's lives were being filmed? And if they didn't disclose this important point, what are the legal issues Jen and Bill could be facing.
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I have no doubt the TLC suits arranged everything for the adoption of these two kids. These TLC lawyers are high-powered bullies who can get whatever they want and will do whatever it takes. I bet they actually bought these kids for a huge price and by-passed the whole adoption thing. JMHO
Diane
Am I missing something? Where is the direct link to the sneak-peek video?
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Kirkland - It takes a minute before the 'play' arrow appears on the photo of TFW's mug.
Kate says at the start of the clip: "A lot has changed since you have been last here." Unfortunately Kate hasn't changed. She is an angry woman and her poor kids are the direct targets. So the kids are going to have "fun" as dictated by Kate. Kate takes all the fun out of fun. She is so out of touch with her kids and what's fun to them that it's pitiful. Kate looked like a "Kendra" wannabee in that clip. Mady knows this is all fake. She's calling Kate out.
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And, mind you, TLC knows exactly what it is doing: after the RV episodes' success (hell, even Admin's boyfriend talked about it on his national show...), they finally know how to "market" Kate Gosselin: after Boo-hoo Kate, Can-Do Kate... Voodoo Kate.
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And if that doesn't work there is always paper plate/towel loving "Can Pollute Kate."
Kate needs to learn that she can't demand respect. She needs to command respect. There's a difference, Kate. You're a long way from commanding respect from your children.
Tireder: While it is not the favored usage of the word, it is indeed the Comparative Form of "tired." It has fallen out of common use in American English, but is still commonly used in British English.
(I wonder if this is something Steve says)
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As much as I hate to admit it, we use that expression in this neck of the woods. I never even noticed that it sounded odd when she said it. She's said so many things that are common here, and now I see that others find them peculiar, and I guess they do sound strange. We do not, however, use sediment when we mean sentiment or free reign when we mean free range.
Well I finally saw the clip. My computer has AdBlockPlus loaded on it, and I guess it saved me from watching it the first time I accessed the site.
Anyway - I saw the video. All I can is is "Wow". Where is the joy and pleasure she gets from her children? She seems to think it's cute because she has two teenage daughters. My Mom has 6 daughters and at one time, four of those daughters were teenagers! I was older, not one of the younger 4. But all I remember of my Mom is her good nature and her loving ways. If she acted like that, it would have scared me to death!
I do think she's showing off for the camera. I think there's a certain degree of phoniness to the way she acts. But there's also a certain degree of truthfulness as well. And that's scary.
And what's with her clothes? Hair pulled back when she's dealing with the kids. Yet, she's all dolled up when she's talking to the camera.
How bizarre.
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES 2m
@gypsi001 @CJWhodunit @TLC @Kateplusmy8 @peoplemag I believe even @KendraWilkinson on Wife Swap saw the need for order with 8 kids.(Ready#)
These sheeple, I swear, have to be the dumbest people on the face of the earth, not to understand the difference between discipline and whatever the heck kind of parenting Kate is doing.
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Ugh. I hate how they make it so dang black and white, too. No one, NO ONE is saying don't discipline the kids. On the contrary, I think Mady does need some discipline at times. No one, NO ONE, is saying there should not be order. Of course all households should have order and structure.
What was said is that discipline and order can be accomplished without an iron fist. Clearly, Kate's methods don't work. These kids have been shown time and time again to be out of order and lacking discipline. Authoritative parenting doesn't work, this is well established. This is not the only way to have discipline and order in fact it's a piss poor way to accomplish that.
Here's a comment by a local from the clip site on People"
Blessedly, no TV network has any interest in giving them another show. Because look how well it turned out the first time. Two 6 year olds get expelled for physically harming an adult in their school...the kids have no friends other than each other...they have meltdowns on live TV,etc.
Here's another post by the same local, again saying that the kids don't have friends.
Whenever you see the kids around town they don't look happy. They smile/laugh a lot when they're with their dad but every other time...nothing. Its quite sad. I know many people think they're brats but i feel for them. They aren't happy. They don't have friends.
As much as I hate to admit it, we use that expression in this neck of the woods
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I don't know that this is a regional thing. We say it all the time here too (CA) and I've heard it up and down the East Coast as well. It didn't strike me as wrong either, and I'm happy to hear it's in fact not! It sounds like a regional thing to NOT use the word. I assume people say "more tired" instead? I hear both.
I don't know that this is a regional thing. We say it all the time here too (CA) and I've heard it up and down the East Coast as well. It didn't strike me as wrong eithe
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Whew, thanks admin. Now I don't feel like the odd person out! I bet, though, that you don't say, "Make the light out once."
Speaking of lights, where is Milo and her man?
Kate needs to learn that she can't demand respect. She needs to command respect. There's a difference, Kate. You're a long way from commanding respect from your children.
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Exactly. And really just like with adults, respect with your children is earned. As others have pointed out she has disrespected them so much, why in the world would they give her respect? She has not given them reason to respect her, so they don't.
She needs to start over, and work on really rebuilding a solid parent-child relationship. None of this BFF stuff, scratch the iron fist rule and focus on learning what authoritative parenting is. Take an intensive parenting class, get some in home therapy with someone who can be hands on. Start over with an expert. I'm willing to bet there would be parenting instructors willing to give her half price or even free just to help. There's no hope otherwise.
I want to say I really enjoyed the comments from each and every one of you today. Some of them were so good I just wanted to copy and paste them and post them again. It was a "nodding my head" day.
The comments on People were enjoyable too. You've got the random people who are appalled but the resident sheeple and haters were there too just going at it like 12 year olds. It was soooo juvenile that it was funny!
Then the Defective Detective was all by her lonesome blurting out random hate against me and this site (thanks for the free publicity) that everybody else just ignored, lol. And then there's Sandie, who I guess I'll call the OBJECTIVE detective.
I have no doubt the TLC suits arranged everything for the adoption of these two kids. These TLC lawyers are high-powered bullies who can get whatever they want and will do whatever it takes. I bet they actually bought these kids for a huge price and by-passed the whole adoption thing. JMHO
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They might be able to pull the proverbial strings in this country, but that was an international adoption. I don't think it's quite so easy in places like India, and particularly in China.
o the kids are going to have "fun" as dictated by Kate. Kate takes all the fun out of fun. She is so out of touch with her kids and what's fun to them that it's pitiful.
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It is quite pitiful. After all this time, she still doesn't understand that she doesn't get to tell the children when they are or are not having fun or how they will have fun. How the children feel about whether anything in particular is fun is up to the children. They are people with their own thoughts and feelings that she can't dictate. It's kind of like how she was on the Palin camping trip, essentially convincing them that "we're not having fun," etc. You could see how torn that made the kids, because on the one hand they are used to Kate telling them how to feel and having to go along with that. On the other hand the kids were pretty much having a ball, and great fun is a big tug on a kid even when your Mom is telling you otherwise.
You just have to hope that these fans grow up to be mature adults before they even think about having children. If they are parents now, heaven help their kids.
Lisa Adcox @poorbabi 7m
@TheInsider @Kateplusmy8 All kids live different lives.U raise yours,let her raise hers.It is their normal.They seem just fine
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This is actually a big problem we face in the sad area of child abuse. Trying to help a kid understand their "normal" it not normal at all. That it's okay to understand it's not normal, and that most of all it's okay to have a different kind of life from that.
Dumb sheeple, just because something is normal to a kid does not make it right. Dumb sheeple, if Kate doesn't want comments on her parenting don't show us an entire clip where she discusses her parenting.
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You just have to hope that these fans grow up to be mature adults before they even think about having children. If they are parents now, heaven help their kids.
Lisa Adcox @poorbabi 7m
@TheInsider @Kateplusmy8 All kids live different lives.U raise yours,let her raise hers.It is their normal.They seem just fine
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Believe it or not she has 7 kids all grown and on their own except one still at home.
Dear sheeple please learn the difference between disciplining and terrorizing.
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Dear sheeple, No one ever said the children should not be disciplined. Ever.
Admin said,
"Then the Defective Detective was all by her lonesome blurting out random hate against me and this site (thanks for the free publicity) that everybody else just ignored, lol."
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With someone like that, ignoring her is about the only thing you can do. There are those who are amusing and somewhat entertaining, and then there are those (like defective) who are just plain scary (and creepy);
Admin said -- " How the children feel about whether anything in particular is fun is up to the children. They are people with their own thoughts and feelings that she can't dictate."
And, there is her over bearing attitude about "traditions" and "making memories". She will discover that memories are being made (daily) and they won't be the ones she commercialized.
I haven't seen the clip yet. From what you all have described, it sounds like things have gone downhill in that house. It is so very sad. It's hard to know that all they can do is wait it out until they are grown. (What Kate does these days is horrible but probably not illegal.) I agree this is the kids' normal life but it is still wrong. I don't know what is wrong with Kate. It sounds like her mental problems are worse.
Do you think they followed the new PA laws on filming? Do those laws help these kids at all?
Its their normal. They are fine.
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Oh, dear Lord! This is like saying, They are bleeding. They are fine. She is a nurse. She has band-aids. (when they actually have to go to the ER!!).
The sheeple are freaking crazy!
Dumb sheeple, just because something is normal to a kid does not make it right. Dumb sheeple, if Kate doesn't want comments on her parenting don't show us an entire clip where she discusses her parenting.
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I wonder if the sheeple are this dumb in real life, or if this is just a game they play on Twitter.
I was looking to see if there was any additional video from the upcoming special, when I ran across this little gem that I had never seen before. Kate talks about her grandparents and how important they were to her. Too bad, her kids will never have that same love with a grandparent. Such a sad situation, (Kate's own mother seems to be an adopted only child?). Watch it all the way to the end, because she talks about adopting a Korean baby while looking directly at someone off camera. A producer perhaps? Oh, and of course they were going to adopt a girl and name her after her grandmother. It's a video from her early days, so please be sure to enjoy this 'rare treat' and glance back at pre-Hollywood Kate' complete with wonky eye and no colored contacts. They look brown to me. She's been masterminding this nonsense from the very beginning.
http://www.discoveryfitandhealth.com/tv-shows/specials/videos/surviving-twins.htm
Cara is on the couch (phone in hand) with the other kids when Kate is going off on Mady. Kate has Mady's phone already in her hand (so maybe a retake?) and Kate's phone is in the back pocket of her jeans. There is also a pair of eyeglasses on the coffee table. They can't be Aaden's because he is wearing his already. Who knows who they belong to. Maybe a crew member or nanny? Nothing Kate does is accidental.
Whoa, T. At :25 on that video, she says wants to hang on to that family unity bond that her grandparents gave her. Just wow. They don't seem to have any family on her side at all. Hopefully they do. If they do and it's private, that's as it should be and good for them.
She looks very cute though. Natural and wide-eyed and pretty and sort of innocent, for lack of a better word.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 1h
Just realized that there's very few school days left this yr, so 5am can kiss my butt when early mornings&homework turn 2 pool time! #Amen
So this is what she plans to do all summer? Lounge around the pool. What about getting a REAL job instead of depending on your kids to keep you afloat? She is despicable and totally clueless, and her bragging is disgusting..
Wow-watching her meanness to her children was more than scary, who looks and talks to children that you gave birth to? Never a smile, a warmness in her voice, nothing motherly about that discussion, I agree with those who say using an easel for that fun planning break just does not fit. We have never used props like that in our huge family, we just gathered around the kitchen table. The look on her face does not equal fun, never mind loving mother. Money can buy her a new face and body, but it will never fix the troll that she is. So sad for those kids, what a role model she is being.
More lost video gems. http://www.discoveryfitandhealth.com/search.htm?terms=Kate+Gosselin
The contrast between past and present is like night and day, and I highly recommend you compare Jon and Kate's different answers on how marriage has changed (ques 7, 14, & 11). For giggles the video's about keeping order and fairness are a real gas. Such malarkey! All of it!
She needs to start over, and work on really rebuilding a solid parent-child relationship. 78
Not disagreeing, but I hope no one is holding their breath. She is permanently stuck at age 12.
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You just have to hope that these fans grow up to be mature adults before they even think about having children. If they are parents now, heaven help their kids.
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This one is 19 and tweets that taking away the cell phone "cracks" her up. Same group of immature fans who thought that not letting the kids eat their birthday cupcakes was absolutely hysterical.
Jessica @JessicaTayVlogs 6m
@Kateplusmy8 "I got those girls cell phones and iPads so I could take them away" cracking up 😂😂 can't wait to see the new special!
Isn't there anyone in the flock with an ounce of common sense?
lukebandit said: Oh, dear Lord! This is like saying, They are bleeding. They are fine. She is a nurse. She has band-aids. (when they actually have to go to the ER!!).
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Does anyone else have the ad at the bottom of this page...the girl wearing the white tee that says "I'm fine" and she has blood all over the side of her shirt? "Bad Idea T-Shirts."
I bet they dressed her like that because they did not want her to look like a harpy, since the show is considered 'family' viewing.
Kate needs to learn that she can't demand respect. She needs to command respect. There's a difference, Kate. You're a long way from commanding respect from your children.
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I guess I would only differ in the word usage. We may agree, but the word I would use would be "one must earn respect", be it from your children, your peers, etc. Command still sounds to much like demand to me.
As an adult, I have great respect for my parents. I look back on how they raised their family, how they treated their neighbors, and how they treated each other. From that, I find much to respect.
I respect those who have worked hard to accomplish something; I respect those with generous hearts and spirits; I respect those who suffer with adversity yet focus on the positive and still enjoy life. None of these descriptions fit Kate. What has she ever done that is worthy of respect. You don't get respect just by being a biological mother.
The tweet from one of TFW's biggest fans saying "even Kendra" saw
the need for order with 8 kids sure is spin doctoring. Didn't Kendra actually also CRY when she saw how regimented things were? Maybe
this fan should be called the "Selective Detective."
And there's Miss Positivity, wishing school was over already. She wishes away early wake-ups, winter, rain...she rarely seems content
with what's right in front of her.
According to People, Kate was born in Wernersville! Um, I don't think so.
Kate Gosselin
DATE OF BIRTH
March 28, 1975
BIRTH PLACE
Wernersville, Pa.
I guess I would only differ in the word usage. We may agree, but the word I would use would be "one must earn respect", be it from your children, your peers, etc. Command still sounds to much like demand to me.
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I agree, Millicent. I was thinking the same thing. Command still had a negative connotation to me.
If Kate treated Jon with the same disrespect and control that she does with her kids, it's surprising that he emerged from that marriage as sane as he has.
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There's a more nuanced level of dysfunction here that's harder to pin down
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This was the same chilling behavior we saw in her Inspector Gadget comments on that show a few months ago.
I saw the trailer for Malificent--I think the character was based on TFW. We went to see the Lego movie last weekend, so there were a lot of young kids there. When there was a close-up of Angelina Jolie, some of the kids began to cry. I imagine that is what it is like at the Gosselin home. That shot of the 2 girl tups cowering while TFW was ranting, was just so sad. It breaks my heart.
According to the 2 recent comments made by locals on the People site, these 8 kids have "no friends", how does this happen? Eight individuals emotionally isolated yet physically amongst their peer group. Oh, I know; their mother has told them not to speak to anyone about ANYTHING to do with their lives at home. Go to school, do the work, come home.
I am sure Kate sees any friends in the mix as just more people to manage, and we all know how exhausting THAT would be for her. She does not see the importance of relationships, that has been made abundantly clear. So, why would her children need friends, they have each other with no outside influences, and that is just the way Kate wants it. It is all about control, period.
Everything is different now that the kids are much older. The problem with the family constantly doing things as a "pack" is that other children and even some adults start to see that as stuck up.
Even if that's not your intention whatsoever, that kind of isolation can make it very difficult for children to have healthy social lives. A three day weekend should involve friends and family not just the pack. I hope it did and always does.
I wonder if the sheeple are this dumb in real life, or if this is just a game they play on Twitter. 89
Unfortunately, I think it's the former. Scary.
Wondering why Kate hasn't posted a bunch of pictures of the kids in several months? Why no article and many pictures on the tups b-day? Thinking maybe she finally saw the error of her ways? Nuh, she's trying to build interest/give nothing away for the new TLC special. I know I shouldn't be surprised, how stupid of me to have thought things will get better for these poor children :(
Jumping In said... 104
According to the 2 recent comments made by locals on the People site, these 8 kids have "no friends", how does this happen? Eight individuals emotionally isolated yet physically amongst their peer group. Oh, I know; their mother has told them not to speak to anyone about ANYTHING to do with their lives at home. Go to school, do the work, come home.
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Kate tried to control the narrative about this obvious conflict of interest YEARS ago on J+K+8.
Kate said that she told the kids that when they're asked about filming and what they've been doing, just tell their friends and classmates (politely) that they don't talk about it, or that they don't want to talk about it.
It was disturbing even then.
What 6-year old doesn't want to blab about their life?
They had no concept of keeping "episodes" a secret, and the fact that they had to live this life of working and filming, but tell NO ONE about it, was mentally punishing.
Yes, I can see how this would make it hard for the kids to have friends when they seem so secretive, cloistered and stand-offish.
If I were a cynical person, I'd think the props for this video clip were a choreographed/staged "kiss my ass" to Kate's critics. The repaired globe is prominently featured…same with the kangaroo pelt, bird perched on her shoulder, framed picture of Shoka, and a highly detailed rule chart. Oh, and the hair extensions, nigh unto the length of the curls Rapunzel herself tossed down from the castle tower.
Kate's mouth is looking stranger and stranger.
Like, she's getting into Steven Tyler territory.
"According to the 2 recent comments made by locals on the People site, these 8 kids have "no friends", how does this happen?"
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I don't know who the "locals" are there, but having "no friends" just isn't true. The kids do have friends at school. I have no idea about being friends with children in their own community, but I do know that living so far away from most of their classmates makes it difficult to socialize at their house. Many children will play with their friends who live nearby, on weekends and after school. If the Gosselins want to do this, and in order for them not to remain a six-pack, then Kate either needs to put them in a school closer to her house, or move near to school where those children can be with their classmates and be involved in after-school activities and sports.
"And there's Miss Positivity, wishing school was over already. She wishes away early wake-ups, winter, rain...she rarely seems content
with what's right in front of her."
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Unless it's a camera crew, a room at a luxury hotel, and a limousine.
Beyond DIsgusted said... 93
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 1h
Just realized that there's very few school days left this yr, so 5am can kiss my butt when early mornings&homework turn 2 pool time! #Amen
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Another summer daily pool?
Bragging about sleeping in is pretty insensitive.
I get kids sleeping in over the summer break, but as a parent, who has the luxury of sleeping in with their kids?
I don't oversleep because I can- I like staying on my schedule and enjoying early mornings when I'm most productive.
Plus, Kate thinks she's so extraordinary, getting up at 5am (wan't it 5:45?) when plenty of people do it all year round.
Her hand has got to hurt from patting herself on her own back constantly.
As much as Kate has her pink iphone glued to her hand, she sets the example for Cara and Mady's iphone use.
I do not know if any anonymous comment on the People article is real or not, but I suspect the kids do have a hard time with keeping or making friends. A sense of entitlement, fear of their mother, and kids picking on kids makes me think the Gosselin children fall into one of two camps: bully or victim.
I don't think anyone here has any problem with order and discipline when raising children, but Kate demands that the children not think for themselves and do only her bidding. Oh, it may work still for the sextuplets, because she is bigger and wields punishment, but just wait when they are teens. No more trained monkeys.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 84
Dear sheeple please learn the difference between disciplining and terrorizing.
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Dear sheeple, No one ever said the children should not be disciplined. Ever.
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Admin, please don't feed the straw men ;-)
Then the Defective Detective was all by her lonesome blurting out random hate against me and this site (thanks for the free publicity) that everybody else just ignored, lol. And then there's Sandie, who I guess I'll call the OBJECTIVE detective.
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Yes, the notion that 15 Min. is influencing alllllll of those people to post on the People site is quite flattering!
I assume people say "more tired" instead? I hear both.
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I was surprised to read that "tireder" is acceptable. It's odd on my ears, anyway.
Where I'm from, we say "my ass is dragging".
Nah, well, sometimes.
Can you imagine if the kids were at a friends house for dinner and food was passed around the table they would not know what to do. Or the friend's family talking about their day, playing and sharing without hitting, spitting or screaming. This would be a shock to them.
Cara seems to be content staying out of the camera shots. She was always the one closest to Jon and very athletic. Mady is still Mady and always will be. She is really going to give her mother a run for her money.
I am one of 12 kids. We never treated each other the way these kids do. We even had friends over for dinner and to play. We had sleepovers just like other kids. So if she thinks this cannot be done with 8 kids she is crazy.
Can anyone blow up the chore chart on the fridge so it's clear?
Just go through the frames of that clip and the expressions on her face and that of the kids says it all. If the camera had not been there, I wonder what Mady's REAL punishment would have been. I cannot wait until one of those boys is big enough to knock Kate on her ass. That clip really got to me.
@Kateplusmy8: Just realized that there's very few school days left this yr, so 5am can kiss my butt when early mornings&homework turn 2 pool time! #Amen
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Well hell's bells, many single moms not only have to continue to get up at 5 a.m. but also have to now find summer child care for their kids. Piecing and patching my ass #douche. Does she even realize how she sounds with tweets like that? Cue the sheeple with a "you deserve a rest tweet". No! Those moms working two or three jobs to make ends meet deserve a rest. That military mom deserves a rest. The cop mom, the nurse mom, any mom with a JOB deserves a rest. TFW, not so much.
The cop mom, the nurse mom, any mom with a JOB deserves a rest. TFW, not so much.
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Kate can sigh all she wants, this truth remains.
Kate has 10 YEARS of feeding 8 children, so how is it possible that this is still a production?
Anyone should be able to do it with one hand tied behind their back.
I wonder if last weekend's filming was because this special is now 2 hours.
She's just so damn lazy. I know moms who have the "luxury" of being sahm with fewer kids and they don't sleep in. There's $@&* to do! Do you all think she wakes up in a better mood with this extra sleep? Besides, I would be calling ANY mom/dad out if they slept the mornings away. I DO see those parents at the school/bustop who you know just rolled out of bed. And yes, I am judging them. Pyjamas and unwashed faces. And I'm talking about the everyday ones, I'm sure we've all slept in. She even broadcasts that she goes back to bed! Lazy to the core. We saw it from day one.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/28/us/maya-angelou-obit/
RIP Maya Angelou
What an amazing woman. What an amazing life.
I do believe last week's filming was to fill up the additional hour. I bet that TLC opted to do that rather than do another updated special down the road. Their contract obligation with her could have specified two one hour specials or one two hour special. I think after this, TLC is D.O.N.E with her.
Obviously, all the publicity for the special will be exclusively through People. Stand by for a cover picture in June. So transparent.
I DO see those parents at the school/bustop who you know just rolled out of bed. And yes, I am judging them. Pyjamas and unwashed faces
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Recently, there was a school that wanted to ban parents in pajamas.
Hey, everyone oversleeps and whoops! Gotta get up and out and deliver the kids to school looking like a bum.
Oh well.
Evidently, this is an epidemic at this school and they want parent to set the example for their kids.
Kate's broadcasting that she goes back to bed (or runs/exercises/does yoga/shops for hours) after the kids go to school is incredibly insensitive.
What's perplexing is that Kate has bragged about doing these things while her kids are at school and she's at home over and over and over again, yet she expects an audience to tune in and believe that her children challenge (was that the word she used?) her DAILY, HOURLY AND MOMENT BY MOMENT.
She's not even HOME for DAYS and WEEKS at a time! Plus, the kids are with Jon at times.
Kate can't play with words like she used to. No one is buying it and feeling sorry for her, or viewing her as on the same playing field, other than teens and college students.
If I recall when they first announced it, they said there was going to be a lot of old clips, which takes up time. Once you get through all the old footage and then play catch up about what's happening now, that really doesn't leave a lot of room for new footage. It's really only 42 minutes to play with not an hour.
I can see how the powers that be saw they had enough footage to drag it out two hours if they filmed just a bit more this past weekend. And since it's summer and new programing isn't as abundant, why not stretch it out. It's all about bang for your buck and if a few extra days of filming gets them a whole other hour I can see how that would be a go.
It will be interested to see if you can see the ratings breakdown by hour. Often times if a two hour program is boring people you see a huge drop in ratings the second hour.
I wore my PJs pants dropping off my kiddos when I was nannying. No makeup, glasses, etc.
The reason was because I wanted to be wholly focused on getting the children ready, breakfast, beds made, etc., and not be behind a closed bathroom door primping. They were the sort of kids where if I take a 10 minute shower plus 20 minutes doing hair, makeup, etc., nothing will get done on their end.
Once they went to school I'd come home, shower and do all that stuff without kids knocking on the door needing this or that or without having to worry about "wasted" time. It just made sense for me and did buy us a few extra minutes of sleep that they needed.
Another thing I'm thinking too is they could really drag this out just by showing old clips. They already admitted they're going to be showing old stuff.
This could stand to be very boring if it's mostly filler.
I agree with setting an example for the kids as far as dressing goes. Plus admin how old were you and how old were the kids when you nannied? I don't think it's the same aa a mom of a
certain age dropping off older kids looking like they just woke up.
I don't know that age matters but I was very young.
I think we're long past the age where "I never go out without my face on." It's just a drop off, it's not like you would ever show up that way at a school function. I don't see morning wardrobes as a big deal, at any age. I care more that the children are being treated with love, patience and kindness, as they deserve. It could also be the laid back CA thing, but many mothers do the no makeup yoga pants thing in the morning. Many women actually. Step into a Coffee Bean at 7am.
I picked up my kids in the late evening from summer jobs in PJs! Learned from that, though, the one time I had to go inside the mall and help my daughter with a stubborn lock as she was closing the store! Now at least have I jeans on with a PJ top/sweatshirt!
Well to each his own. There was a big discussion about how sloppy tfw looked at the coffee shop. I'd take that over pyjamas. And we've also discussed age appropriate dress many times. A young mom/nanny can get by wearing pyjamas, a mid 30-40 yr old with teens or preteens? Not so much. Jmo
@Kateplusmy8: Just realized that there's very few school days left this yr, so 5am can kiss my butt when early mornings&homework turn 2 pool time! #Amen
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Oh please. She has the last day of school highlighted on her calendar. She knows exactly how many more days are left because she counts them down from the day school starts back in August. She didn't 'just realize' it.
I say this respectfully, yoga pants really wasn't the topic :)
Sleepwear and athletic wear are 2 different things. Again jmo
I have 4 kids that are all home in the summer...I still get up at 6. No sleeping in here....3 different bus stops, fairly big house...no help cleaning, cooking, shopping, laundry, which is constant. I look like hell when I bring my kids in the morning. Where does she get off with this crap? Everyone knows she has "help". Sleep in and Pool time?? IS SHE FOR REAL???? Sorry for rant....just finished scrubbing toilets....no kidding...you stupid entitled bitch...
I'd wear actual PJ bottoms and I'd see actual PJ bottoms. In addition to yoga pants. It's just not a deal breaker for me but yes I agree, to each his own. I do admit that if I saw the same for AFTERNOON pickups I would probably wonder about it a bit more, like if they were depressed or something (or maybe are about to go work a night shift who knows, I try not to judge). I do have to say kids just did NOT notice what mom/nanny wears so I didn't worry about leaving any kind of impression. You could show up in a prom dress and the kids wouldn't notice. Kids are in their own world and while they love you and expect you to appear magically when you are needed otherwise you're not in the equation. Which is why I've always said the level of obsession she claims the kids have for her is extremely abnormal and IMO made up out of her own head. It's just not how kids think.
Not only do I think it's insensitive for her to brag about summer sleeping in, but I think it gets old to constantly talk about their luxurious pool.
She just has no idea that for most mothers summer is the same or harder. You still have to work but now you have to figure out childcare. You're often competing to get days off with everyone else who wants to take days off and you might not get the days you want. Everything the kids want to do is a hassle because you have to figure it out with your work. Even if you had a pool, you can't enjoy it because you're at work during the hottest hours or have too much to do to get the house in order when you get back.
It baffles me how insensitive she is.
I'm a little late to the game, but I just now watched the clip and my only opinion is that Kate has gone stark raving mad. She is copletely and utterly nuts. The woman is insane and you can see it in her eyes. She did not smile at all in the scenes with the kids but when she was doing the one on ones she was smiling, but it never reached her eyes. Very chilling. This woman has gone from annoying the crap out of me to scaring me. She is spooky looking with those crazy eyes and the fake smile. Shudder.
I hate to say it, but if I was on leave and had to take my kid to school I didn't get dressed up to do so nor did I take the time to "put my face on". Roll out of bed, splash some water on the face to wake up and jump into the car in a pair of sweats and a tee shirt. Sorry if that offends. Actually I'm not sorry if that offended anyone. Fvck 'em. BTW, I've never been big on makeup so I go to work every day without "my face on" but still manage to get the job done and get it done well.
Yes LisaNH, I agree. She has absolutely gone over the edge.
Let me clarify though I find Kate's sloppy rolled out of bed wardrobe baffling and in some ways concerning, because she's going on national T.V. I thought that was why people thought it was so odd.
If I were going on national T.V., obviously I would ditch the PJs. I wasn't. It was a 10 minute drop off, a quick kiss and have a good day, monkey-bunky.
It really strikes me as fake, trying to push the idea she's just like any other mom, that she's frazzled, harried, can't be bothered with primping. When she lives a millionaire lifestyle with hired help. It's not organic.
she was smiling, but it never reached her eyes. Very chilling. This woman has gone from annoying the crap out of me to scaring me. She is spooky looking with those crazy eyes and the fake smile. Shudder.
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Yes, total Norma Desmond.
That tweet just proves the spring break chart and the superfun! actitvities were staged. Had they not been filming it would have been "yay! A whole week of sleeping in!!"
The Empress Shows her True Colors said... 109
If I were a cynical person, I'd think the props for this video clip were a choreographed/staged "kiss my ass" to Kate's critics. The repaired globe is prominently featured…same with the kangaroo pelt, bird perched on her shoulder, framed picture of Shoka, and a highly detailed rule chart.
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I noticed all that stuff too and wondered the same thing. It's ALL there in that little clip.
She's a spiteful person who takes pleasure in revenge. You see it on her face when she talks about why she bought the phones and ipads for the girls. She enjoys inflicting punishment on anyone who crosses her.
So, yes I do think she made sure that stuff was all captured on camera, except we know how she got those things and it wasn't through any hard work on her part.
I don't think it's cynical to recognize a poseur when we see one.
This one comment on the People article basically sums it up:
"She uses insulting antics and humiliation with anyone who upsets her. She has tantrums all day long. That's not parenting. That's just a miserable unhappy person who never learned to communicate. Her response showed she cannot handle any disagreement, not even one from a 13 year-old."
BTW, if you pause the clip just when Kate starts announcing the "fun things"(at :43) you can see all the happy anticipation on the kids faces--NOT!
It really strikes me as fake, trying to push the idea she's just like any other mom, that she's frazzled, harried, can't be bothered with primping. When she lives a millionaire lifestyle with hired help. It's not organic.
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Maybe Kate is passed showing off the new girls.
My youngest ds is on a flight right now for a job errand. Tracking it live real time. Fascinating. I texted him and told him to take pictures of celebs. He didn't get the message. I wanted to tell him to take pictures of kate, video and get close. (I know she isn't in sunny Orlando! lol) Especially, if she was with Steve. I would have to tell him the Silver Fox! lol Steve wouldn't try to rat claw him! 6'6, 275 and mens shoe size 16 and his hair tied back in a ponytail, and arm muscles that I can't circumference my 2 hands with! BWAHHAHAAHAH!
Would Steve actually ask him to delete pics? He might, but I know for real what ds would say. Unprintable! hahahaha
The Stir has an article about Kate disciplining Mady and her remarks about getting the twins phones and Ipads so she can take them away. An excerpt:
"Folks, we all know kids need to be disciplined when they are being direspectful, because if you don't nip it in the bud at home, it will leak out into public. Kids test their parents' limits, and we need to set up boundaries and stick to them. It's GOOD to see Kate disciplining her kids without resorting to violence ('memba the wooden spoon incident?).
That said, it seems a little odd to specifically buy something nice for your child with the specific intention of using it to punish them. For lack of a better word, it seems ... untrustworthy?
It sounds like a Trojan Horse of parenting ... here kid, here's a gift, now I can use it to destroy you!
Now, to be clear, that doesn't mean you shouldn't put limits on the use of gadgets because they are, after all, a privilege, but we are supposed to buy presents for our kids out of the goodness of our hearts, not with an ulterior motive! That's part of showing love and respect for our kids.
And we all know respect is a two way street."
http://thestir.cafemom.com/teen/172928/kate_gosselin_shares_twisted_trick?
Summed it up pretty nicely. How can Kate expect respect from her children, when she shows that she doesn't respect them?
Kate is a twit said... 145
BTW, if you pause the clip just when Kate starts announcing the "fun things"(at :43) you can see all the happy anticipation on the kids faces--NOT!
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Yes. And if you pause it @1:07 you see the venomous look she gives Mady when she walks past her. Her eyes are literally bulging out. This is like a clip from a Stephen King movie.
Rest in peace, Maya Angelou. She said something that has stayed with me for years, and been a great lesson: When someone shows you who they are, believe them.
Kate has shown herself to be a controlling meanie. How anyone can defend her actions, on camera no less, is baffling.
Does TFW ever do anything mentally stimulating with her children?
They seem like hydroponic plants she doesn't need to actually tend.
There's more to parenting than keeping your kids from playing with
matches and running with scissors. Whenever fans comment that
she "feeds and clothes them" and deserves kudos for that -- nope,
that's the law.
Another summer of swimming at the McMansion - check. Maybe TFW is hoping that crying poor mouth on this TLC special will score
her a free beach stay somewhere in July or August. Would any of
us be surprised if it works?
While Kate is certainly glad to be back on TV, I'm sure she envisioned some type of expensive, lavish trip...not an at-home type of show. It may be the reason, Kate's attitude is so nasty and vile - not the show she envisioned.
These sheeple just fascinate the heck out of me. This one credits Kate with thinking up movie night and popcorn. You just have to wonder how in the world they manage to raise their children.
Lindsey Rhoads @LinRhoads 40m
@Kateplusmy8 hi Kate after watching ur show u have such gr8 ideas! Ur fam movie time w/ popcorn&m&ms we use in our house! My kids ❤️it! Thx
NJGal51 said... 139
I hate to say it, but if I was on leave and had to take my kid to school I didn't get dressed up to do so nor did I take the time to "put my face on". Roll out of bed, splash some water on the face to wake up and jump into the car in a pair of sweats and a tee shirt. Sorry if that offends. Actually I'm not sorry if that offended anyone. Fvck 'em. BTW, I've never been big on makeup so I go to work every day without "my face on" but still manage to get the job done and get it done well.
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I take my son to school every morning and then return home to finish getting ready for work. So I am usually also in a pair of sweats or loose-fitting cotton pants, a casual top, flip flops and no make-up. I do brush my teeth and comb my hair before I go out though :)
However, if a camera crew were coming over to film me taking my child to school or fixing him breakfast, I would put on my nicest casual clothes, and probably take 3 minutes to put on some make-up, because that's how I prefer to be seen by non-family members.
Considering how vain Kate normally is, it's weird to me when she doesn't take the time to make herself presentable. That makes me wonder if she's losing her grip to some extent. It's just so out of character.
For the record, I too think she's mentally unbalanced and has a weak grip on reality. I think she cannot accept and process the fact that her moment in the spotlight is basically over, except for little dribs and drabs like her stint on CA (and they only have celebs on once, so that'll never happen again), and this "where are they now" special. From the discussion regarding the clip, it sounds like the show will be fairly dismal to watch (for most normal people), and is likely the last filming TLC will do with the Gosselins.
Kate lives in a fantasy world where she has star power, and ought to be hosting a tv show, or hosting a dating show, or doing any show that allows her to sit on a couch and talk to a camera and earn a big paycheck. But pesky reality keeps poking holes in her bubble. For a long time, she has been able to 'piece and patch' those holes, thinking that a return to tv is just around the next corner. But I think that bubble is deflating at a pretty fast rate by now. She won't be able to accept the reality and I think she could possibly really go off the deep end, especially when the money runs out. (And Skeever will be long gone when that happens.)
Somewhat OT, but I happened to watch a Little Couple episode last night where Bill and Jen were answering viewers' questions. Of course, I mentally compared and contrasted with the episode where Jon & Kate did the same thing. Such a difference! First of all, when they were answering questions about the children, you could just see the pride and joy they have in their kids shine through. Everything they said was positive in nature.
They also discussed their relationship, and how they handle fights they have. They showed a couple clips where they are having a mild difference of opinion over various things. They could be the biggest fakers on TV, but their disputes didn't seem to involve shouting or screaming, neither one barked at the other, neither one turned to the camera to say "see what I have to deal with here?", etc. They appear quite genuine in their mutual respect and love for each other.
There was also a question from a 10 year old boy on how they explained Jen's cancer to Will, as his own mother has/had cancer and he was very scared. Jen's answer was thoughtful and caring. No way could Kate ever come close to such empathy for another person.
I didn't watch the whole episode because my son got annoyed and asked why I was watching some strange family. He meant strange as in I don't know them, so why am I interested in their lives. Well, he had a point, so I switched the channel. But what a siren song, when even someone like me, firmly against filming minors for reality tv, still get sucked in by the Little Couple and their adorable kids. *sigh*
" But what a siren song, when even someone like me, firmly against filming minors for reality tv, still get sucked in by the Little Couple and their adorable kids. *sigh*"
I am the same way..don't believe in filming minors, but get sucked in now and then. One thing, for me, it's 30-60 minutes of watching pure happiness, and you don't get that many times on TV these days. The show just makes me smile.
Does this sound familiar?
Tool 4: Parenting with Currency
If you want your child to behave appropriately, you have to set the standards for the behaviors you want. Too often, parents look only at undesirable behaviors and their parenting styles dissolve into complaining and reacting. If you focus on developing the positive behaviors in your child, then the negative behaviors won't be so overwhelming. You also have to determine your child's currency. Currency is anything that when presented during or immediately after a target behavior will increase the likelihood of that behavior occurring again. Figure out a way for them to get as much of what they want through appropriate behavior.
There are a number of different currencies that can vary with your child's age. This can be stuffed animals, DVDs, television and computer privileges and stereos. Once you understand what is valuable in your child's life, then you can mold and shape his or her behavior.
It is also effective to put in writing what you expect of your child, and what the consequences will be if he or she does not go with the program. These are called contingency contracts or behavioral contracts. Click here to download a sample contract. (Adobe Acrobat is required).
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TFW is following Dr. Phil's "Seven Tools for Purposeful Parenting".Link Here
If she wants to present herself as the frazzled, over-worked mom of eight, wearing sweats with greasy hair tied back in a ponytail, then why show up on the couch interview looking like she's ready to host The View? Why curl those extensions, get a fresh Botox, apply those false eyelashes? Seems she really doesn't know who she is, or who she wants to be. Pick one, Kate, and stick with it!
And oh, geez...that hair. She's not fooling anyone with it. We've all seen photos of how thin it is and how lifeless. We've seen it pulled through a baseball cap. There is no way on God's green earth that the hair she has in the couch interview would fit through a baseball cap. How stupid does she think viewers are?
I was going to add...Dr. Phil sure was successful in keeping her and Jon's marriage intact. NOT! (guess she couldn't control Jon's 'currency')
TFW is such a fraud and unoriginal, she should give credit to the psuedo "Dr" at least.
Sounds like she's watching a lot of daytime tv.
It's really like many things with Kate. She has the right idea about a child's currency. She's in the right ballpark. It's the execution that was so horrific. It's not good enough to simply have the right idea about how to handle a situation like this if it all falls apart on the execution.
There was also a question from a 10 year old boy on how they explained Jen's cancer to Will, as his own mother has/had cancer and he was very scared. Jen's answer was thoughtful and caring.
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See, this is what gets me about these shows. Is it necessary to explain to a little three-year-old boy, newly adopted, probably unable to speak let alone understand the language that his (new) mommy has an illness?
I guess it is if you have to sit in front of a camera and answer questions from viewers if the contract calls for it.
Remember Kate's 'typical' summer advice :" If you have a POOL, swim in it." Maybe that was what was hidden by the white board.
#funthings
Berks Neighbor said... 159
I was going to add...Dr. Phil sure was successful in keeping her and Jon's marriage intact. NOT! (guess she couldn't control Jon's 'currency')
TFW is such a fraud and unoriginal, she should give credit to the psuedo "Dr" at least.
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Dr. Phil is right up Kate's alley. And other things that start with "A".
I agree that the smile never reaches TFW's eyes and because she's been botoxed/fillered/lifted to death she has absolutely no other expression on her face which causes her smile to come across as a grimace and if she continues she'll be getting into Joker terretory. She has no character in her face at all.
I don't understand why she keeps putting herself out there, on television interviews and on this special. Look at her eyes; Look at the way she actually enjoys giving the kids gifts for the specific purpose of taking them away. All this does is give Jon more ammunition in demanding a psych evaluation. The woman clearly has mental issues. She's heading for a breakdown...or don't narcissists have breaks from reality? She's really turned from someone who was just a little bit "off" to a parent who is very scary. I'd never let her babysit my kids. With this kind of person, you never know what she's going to do if she really loses it.
I really worry about those kids. I understand Jon's concern. Something needs to be done there. Today would be not a bit too soon.
The TLC clip was so painful to watch. Kate is a spiteful, angry woman.I think her daughter said "nothing fun" because the entire camera crew was filming in the living room. Kate didn't address her concerns, just dismissed her. Horrible.
Is it necessary to explain to a little three-year-old boy, newly adopted, probably unable to speak let alone understand the language that his (new) mommy has an illness?
Yeah it kind of is necessary to explain why mommy is going to be really tired all the time. It will be necessary to explain why mommy might not be able to play with you as much as usual. It iwll be necessary to explain why mommy is sick and can't hold down a lot of food It will be necessary to explain why mommy suddenly doesn't have any hair. You don't have to go in to a big explanation about the cancer itself but you do have to talk about it with your kids and let them know that although the medicine will make you sick for a little while in the long run it will make you better. Been there, done that.
Post on Facebook from one of my good friends. A is 13 years old!
School is out and summer has begun. A is celebrating at a "School's Out Swimming Party with lots of her friends." When I picked her up at school, She said, I am going to live this summer to the 'FULLEST!" Have a great summer everyone!
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A is a middle school cheerleader, loves and plays basketball and it good at it. Has sleepovers, friends, goes to church and is heavily involved with Operation Christmas Child with her mom.
WHY, WHY, WHY KATE ARE YOU NOT DOING THIS! Your days of controlling these precious kids is just about over. Shame on you and TLC for putting these kids on tv for 2 hours of hell on earth. We all saw how BAD it was on Katie Couric! Donuts to Cinnamon Buns Katie Couric regrets doing it. It would of been more interesting to profile a used car salesman's life and family and their struggles! And, finally, SUPER SHAME on you kate for doing it for over a decade!
I have not watched the clip, cannot stand to actually hear that woman, but from the comments here, it really does sound she may be at the breaking point. Even the dramatic switch from her casual frump to over the top faux hair and makeup is a bit scary. And once again, shame on TLC for exploiting this.
PJ's momma said... 150
Rest in peace, Maya Angelou. She said something that has stayed with me for years, and been a great lesson: When someone shows you who they are, believe them.
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Me too, me too.
What's missing there is the beginning and what struck me as so profound, and that is "the first time..".
Man, I wish that I would have followed that little voice inside me... many times.
Bringing it to Kate (and my experiences), abusers almost never change.
I'm glad sites are commenting on that K+8 update clip.
Kate looked out of her mind, and just itching for a fight and a reason to crush one or more of her kids.
I just can't get over how she acted and reacted to Mady's outburst.
Kate's behavior was by far, worse, with the over-the-top exaggerated mockery and stink eye.
If the clip is any indicator of what the show will be like, it looks to me as if she's putting in zero effort. It seems that even parenting is now beneath her. She seems almost depressed. She has no affect. She's defeated and she knows it.
PJ
I'm sure she envisioned some type of expensive, lavish trip...not an at-home type of show. It may be the reason, Kate's attitude is so nasty and vile - not the show she envisioned.
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I"m sure she thinks she deserved a trip, but she.is ALWAYS mean and controlling and NEVER happy except behind the facade of her twitter account.
I wonder if it might work better for Kate to just ignore her when Mady is being disruptive and rude. She wants attention and Kate gave it to her. She was picking a fight and Kate indulged it. She is a lot like Kate in that she is desperate to stir the pot and get attention. If she is ignored she might just get tired of sassing.
Wheres Milo???? I should considerate a blessing we don't have to read her uplifting bullshit..
Ha. I was wondering where the term "currency" came from. Since I have nothing to do with "dr." Phil, glad you found this out. Perhaps she is shooting for a guest appearance on his show? That's what I think.
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I wonder if it might work better for Kate to just ignore her when Mady is being disruptive and rude. She wants attention and Kate gave it to her. She was picking a fight and Kate indulged it. She is a lot like Kate in that she is desperate to stir the pot and get attention. If she is ignored she might just get tired of sassing."
I think Kate lets Mady get a way with a lot normally, as the child sure isn't afraid to sass her. Mady's big mistake, was horning in on Kate's time in front of the camera, and that is a big no no. Eyes were directed away from Kate towards Mady, and I imagine Kate could not stand that.
jennine s said... 166
The TLC clip was so painful to watch. Kate is a spiteful, angry woman.I think her daughter said "nothing fun" because the entire camera crew was filming in the living room. Kate didn't address her concerns, just dismissed her. Horrible.
May 28, 2014 at 10:48 AM
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I think Mady saw shades of Katie Couric's circus act and wanted no part of playing stupid games with the younger siblings, and I don't blame her a bit.
No teams.
No wheelbarrow races.
No egg on a spoon races.
No tug of war.
Yes, it was rude to interrupt, but she was just trying to have a say.
It would have been nice if Kate said to Mady "let's talk later", instead of causing that scene that is sure to come back to haunt Mady.
"Hey, was that an earthquake that just happened?"
"Nah, Mady Gosselin just walked by!"
Mady does deserve some time to just talk. A "what's bothering you honey" type talk. Because there was way more behind that one little comment she made.
By the way Kate? Mady is allowed to think something is not fun as long as she is not rude about it. You can't MAKE her enjoy something. Nor should you.
They are so stupid!! It's not the taking away of priviliges that is the problem! It's her shrewish manor, obvious delight and curt temperament. For goodness sake, Mady wasn't even that respectful. How about a "hold on Mady I'm talking" first? Wait til Mady really has enough, refuses to leave the room, says "I don't care" when she takes her phone, then says F-U to her. Because the way this is going, with Mady's temperament, that's what the future holds.
MY_2BCOLLIES: @Kateplusmy8 Unbelievable some of these people criticizing you for taking away the electronics. I'm betting that 99.99% have done it too.😠.
Remember also, If the "special" has good ratings, there will be more shows to come.
Remember, If the "special " has good ratings, here will be more shows to come.
I take my son to school every morning and then return home to finish getting ready for work. So I am usually also in a pair of sweats or loose-fitting cotton pants, a casual top, flip flops and no make-up. I do brush my teeth and comb my hair before I go out though :)
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I think that's fine.
Gauzy pj's on the other hand ;-)
DH and I are always at the ready to roll out of bed and go out because of the dogs.
I pull on sweats or short and a baggy shirt and a ball cap, which takes a mere 2-3 minutes.
In the winter, I can get away with a long down coat over anything.
I throw on my coat and slip into my Uggs and no one's the wiser.
It's frustrating isn't it local?
Not a single dang person said it was a bad idea ON ITS FACE to confiscate a child's cell phone. Not one. They are deliberately confusing the issue IMO.
Why wasn't M's comment discussed? Oh, is it because the realest reality show isn't so real? Is it because the topic was discussed before the cameras rolled and M was ordered not to bring it up? Maybe someone was afraid that if M was allowed to talk about the "Not fun stuff" some of the others might have taken the opportunity to speak up on camera too. M risked giving us a peak behind the curtain. Like the Today show, I hate to think what happened after the cameras were turned off.
PJ
RIP Maya Angelo
If you don't like it, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude--- Maya Angelo
kate doesn't like being with the kids. So change it kate. Give Jon full physical custody of all the kids. And if you don't want to do that, CHANGE YOUR ATTITUDE!!!!
Kate lives in a fantasy world where she has star power, and ought to be hosting a tv show, or hosting a dating show, or doing any show that allows her to sit on a couch and talk to a camera and earn a big paycheck. But pesky reality keeps poking holes in her bubble.
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Now that Babs is gone from The View, I wonder if Kate will get another appearance.
Maybe Bill is still interested in her...
The Today Show? Hmm...have to question that one too. After the stunt she pulled, putting her 13-year old twins out there for spin control and "setting the record straight" about their father, I don't know that she has any good will left there.
Wendy Williams wasn't too impressed.
Bethany is canned, besides, she'd cut a bitch.
Whatever network CA is on will probably hook Kate up with guest appearances on their gossip shows.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 179
It's frustrating isn't it local?
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YES! I even said my daughter doesn't currently have her phone either. Sheesh
This is what Kate wrote about the twins on her blog for their 13th birthday:
"Sure, they’ve got the occasional — and very normal — bursts of attitude that goes along with being teenagers, but fortunately for me, I’m a young enough mom (cough, cough) that I myself remember turning 13 and all the difficult hormone induced years of confusion that followed.
When these difficult moments arise, I am striving to love them and be patient with them as they grow and work through this timeframe. “They can’t help it” comes to mind often".
That clip proved what a bunch of BS she puts out there on twitter and her blog.
I'm thinking how awful this spring break filming experience must've seemed from M's POV.
Oops - pressed "publish" too soon!
I'm thinking about how awful this spring break filming must've felt for
M & C. They made headline news (with the notable exception of
People) for the Today show stint. Their mother was just away from
home for a month, leaving who knows who to look after them. And now, when they have time off from school, a crew swarms their house
and invades their privacy once again. I can only imagine the lecture
the kids got before the crew daddies arrived. Is it any wonder M
acted out?
Playing catch up.........
Winsomeone said... 176
''....I think Kate lets Mady get a way with a lot normally, as the child sure isn't afraid to sass her. Mady's big mistake, was horning in on Kate's time in front of the camera, and that is a big no no. Eyes were directed away from Kate towards Mady, and I imagine Kate could not stand that.''
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BINGO! No way is TCFW willing to 'share' camera time with anyone, especially one of Jon's children.
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 183
''Not a single dang person said it was a bad idea ON ITS FACE to confiscate a child's cell phone. Not one. They are deliberately confusing the issue IMO.''
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Admin, I think it might be more accurate to say that the sheeple are deliberately pushing buttons! They will say/do anything to get a rise out of people who see TCFW as she actually is. They bombard everyone with hateful personal attacks and send message after message with their rationalization of TCFW's behavior.
In my opinion, attempting to discuss anything with sheeple using calm rational comments only goads them to be more aggressive with their comments in an effort to continue interaction with them. Logic will never be effective with illogical people!
I believe the best thing to do would be to totally ignore their comments.
AuntieAnn said... 161
There was also a question from a 10 year old boy on how they explained Jen's cancer to Will, as his own mother has/had cancer and he was very scared. Jen's answer was thoughtful and caring.
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See, this is what gets me about these shows. Is it necessary to explain to a little three-year-old boy, newly adopted, probably unable to speak let alone understand the language that his (new) mommy has an illness?
I guess it is if you have to sit in front of a camera and answer questions from viewers if the contract calls for it.
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The fact that she chose to explain her illness to her child has nothing to do with a television show. She didn't explain her illness to him in front of the cameras. She made a choice as a parent to explain to her child about her illness in a developmentally appropriate manner. I happen to think she was 100% correct. The child was going to notice his mother's absence as she was regularly hospitalized for treatment and would also likely notice that she wasn't feeling right. Why wouldn't someone explain the situation to the child?
Also, what is your point in putting "new" in parentheses? She is his mother. It doesn't need to be qualified.
This thing with Kate and her pool. She acts like she's the only person in Pennsylvania to have a pool. I understand when she moved to the new home that this was a shiny toy for her -- she had arrived, so to speak. She never had one before. It was her status symbol. She could now talk about the pool with other parents, making sure that they knew that she had one. You'd think, though, that by this time the fascination would have worn off, but she still keeps bragging. I wonder how many pictures we're going to see of this wonderful pool.
Can someone explain why the defective detective is now going after a single mother with an infant, outing her, calling her a sock ( so what??) harassing her? For all that's holy, I don't understand this need to spend hours hunting down information on people and then using it for intimidation. IIRC, the dd has three children yet she's on Twitter, and probably elsewhere, for hours day and night.
See, this is what gets me about these shows. Is it necessary to explain to a little three-year-old boy, newly adopted, probably unable to speak let alone understand the language that his (new) mommy has an illness?
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What three-year-old can really understand an illness such as this? Unless put in very simple terms that Mommy is sick, there's no way that a toddler is going to grasp the concept of the seriousness of this illness.
In my opinion, attempting to discuss anything with sheeple using calm rational comments only goads them to be more aggressive with their comments in an effort to continue interaction with them. Logic will never be effective with illogical people!
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Do you think that they really are this stupid, or are they just goading to get a rise out of the non-fans? I would hope it's the latter, but in the case of many of them, particularly those who are still trying to read lawsuits and understand child support and "dismissed with prejudice" you just never know.
Read your post KIAT about what kate wrote on her blog about the twins on their 13th birthday. Comparing that spin doctoring to what is on the People preview is frightening. She has crossed the line of reality into a black hole of mental illness. She needs help, now, for the sake of the kids. They need help, now.
Oh, Lord, I hope Jon can do something! Would I dare to dream CPS?
Also, Wendy Williams was just on with Kate Coyne from People with the 50 most beautiful people. She has lost a huge amount of weight. Looks like half her size that she was a couple of years ago. They showed pictures of women around kate's age that just had babies and older and were stunning. One lady had a baby or twins 4 months earlier, looked like she hadn't even had a baby.
Awe shucks, kate got shafted again!
When these difficult moments arise, I am striving to love them and be patient with them as they grow and work through this timeframe.
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"Striving" to love them? Good gosh. That should be unconditional love. You shouldn't have to strive to love, appreciate and show respect for your own children.
I hope she really didn't mean that and as usual, had difficulty finding the right words.
I throw on my coat and slip into my Uggs and no one's the wiser.
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Were they a gift from SweetBren, the charity lady?
I actually don't agree with her sediment that they can't help it. That's part of becoming a successful adult learning that for most people you CAN help it if you try. Self control. Mady didn't have to make that snide remark. She could have controlled herself. To take an attitude that oh it's just their hormones does them a disservice. It plays a role but it's not an excuse, and all that does is teach the kids it's okay to make excuses. If it's not teen hormones there will be some other excuse to replace it.
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