Coming up, Dr. Jenn is coming down pretty hard on Liz as the doc tries to help Jon. Debra is here (happy happy joy joy!), and boy is she looking road weary. Twenty-two years being Teen Duck Lips's mother have certainly taken their toll.
Credits roll, and I've never really described them, but they consist of a friendly beat and the various couples against a black backdrop saying deep things like "When things are good, they're great, when they're bad, they're bad." Teen Duck Lips asks profoundly, "Why do I always end up alone?" Is that a rhetorical question?
It's the night where we last left off, and Sada and Duck Lips are trying to explain to Liz and Jon that they're not trying to be mean for the heck of it, they're trying to help by pointing out that Liz treats Jon poorly and he doesn't stand up for himself.
Duck Lips assures Liz she does not talk about people behind their backs, this is not about trash talking her. While I fully believe they love Liz and Jon like they say they do and just want to help, that is a funny assertion because that's all she ever did on the Real Housewives. That's all anyone does who appears on that franchise. Everyone constantly talks behind someone's back or is confronting someone talking behind their back or belly aching that someone is talking behind their backs, which in so doing is also talking behind someone's back, lol. That and they go to dinner parties in places like Puerto Rico.
"Lesbians, chime in!" Duck Lips says.
"The lesbians are beat, the lesbians are falling asleep," Liz quips. Ha.
There was an unpublished comment to the blog the other week blasting me for referring to Sada and Whitney as just "the lesbians," but I want to point out here that "the lesbians" is what the people in the house actually call them, and Sada and Whitney giggle over it. I get the feeling it's a running joke about casting a token gay couple. If they had any problem whatsoever with it, I have no doubt they would say so. Not everyone takes political correctness so seriously, Whitney and Sada included, and it's certainly refreshing. And to boot, the lesbians have proven themselves to have the healthiest relationship of all of them, so they get the last laugh.
"Next time Jon tells me we need to go to bed, I think I'm just gonna ...." Liz says dryly as she makes the "O.K." sign. See what you get for not listening to Lights Out Man, Liz?
In an interview later Liz says look, what really got her about this is that they're comparing her to Kate. That just gets under her skin and she thinks it's very unfair. Once she calmed down, she realized she appreciated the housemates for being honest with her and for giving reasonable explanations for why they were saying what they were. Well, good for her, that's a start. I just can't get over how funny it is that everyone sees being compared to Kate as the greatest insult you could ever possibly give a person.
How did someone like Kate get to such a sordid point? A hundred and fifty episodes I guess. And wouldn't you be just mortified to be regarded by pop culture as the Wicked Witch of Wernersville? Man alive.
Dr. Jenn admits Liz and Jon are making progress. Fair enough. Dr. Jenn sits down with Jon one on one. As we know these are always great.
Dr. Jenn is concerned Jon is falling back into his same patterns with Kate. Again, calling out what a terrible thing he had with Kate, I love it. I can just picture Kate glued to the television, popcorn bowl in hand, squeezing that popcorn into fists when she hears this. She and Kate Coyne and TLC for years have tried to spin herself as the victim in that whole relationship, and now here's someone, a professional no less, shattering that glass house and finally describing the relationship the opposite way. To boot, Dr. Jenn, a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, has massive amounts of experience in domestic violence and other dysfunctional relationships when she worked at Peace Over Violence; this is not her first rodeo. Kate must be seething over all this, a licensed therapist, not to mention all the housemates, refusing to accept she was the victim. Ha. While I think Dr. Jenn is way off base when it comes to Teen Duck Lips, overall I think her take on things is right on the money, and I think her analysis of Jon and Kate, and Jon and Liz, is spot on.
Jon explains that Liz loves him, she is the only woman he really felt a connection with after the dating he did, and also he has to think about his eight children. "She's really good with my kids."
Dr. Jenn admits that Liz is filling up things emotionally and sexually for him that he did not have before, but he can't let that overwhelm him from seeing some of the negative things in the relationship. Jon admits it's a fine line. She says Liz needs Jon to tell her certain things she says to him are not acceptable. Jon says he'll give it a whirl.
Day 15, and the cinematographers on this show have really captured some spectacular time lapse twilight shots of Los Angeles throughout this series. Photography is a serious hobby of mine, but most of Los Angeles is pretty dull during normal waking hours. However during magic hour, those brief few moments at sunrise and sunset, this place transforms into something other-wordly, almost Hobbit-like, especially during the cooler months. My current avatar is one such hauntingly beautiful sunset, here's another from a few weeks later I love.
It is truly a blessing to live in such a beautiful place. Jon notices there's a bit of smoke in the distance, probably one of the many small brush fires that crop up during fire season when this was filmed. Jon asks if that's a fire. Liz says snottily, No, genius, it's someone smoking a really big cigar. Huh, maybe Wu-tang's out there somewhere and his cigar exploded on him. I hope he gets lost.
Liz pauses a moment, and you can see the wheels turning. She admits she is a real jerk sometimes when she says things like that, and that she's not used to someone calling her out on it. It's making her realize that she needs to work on this. It's rather interesting but concerning that Liz seemed to think comments that nasty and rude were acceptable until someone had the balls to point it out to her. How does someone get that far in life? No one has asked about Liz's childhood or her past yet, oddly enough.
Kelsey comes out in an over-the-top Pepto-Bismo pink exercise outfit and bandana, LOL. "Oh, heyyy!" she announces as she strikes a pose. Aw, I'm glad she's in a better mood. She fetches Liz to go work out. As much as I find Liz frustrating, it says a lot that someone as sweet as Kelsey has taken her under her wing. She must have seen something in her.
Day 16, group therapy, woo hoo! Spoke too soon, today we're going to talk about everyone's childhoods. Now I know I just said that your childhood is important, but I don't really want to hear about everyone's childhoods for the simple fact that I think some of these people are going to lie, and a lie on national television slamming your childhood is different than just telling a lie about it to a few friends. Especially since many people from their childhoods are probably still around and can't really respond.
Oh dear, Duck Lips witnessed domestic violence as a child. I guess that makes you a gossip thirty years later. Look at Teen Duck Lips over there fake crying, haha. Dr. Jenn says Duck Lips needs to let go of that burden and that's crucial to her parenting. This is the first time I've heard Duck Lips mention her sweet daughter Kennedy, although that's not to say she doesn't talk about her all the time in the 14 other hours of conversation a day that get edited out. I wonder how Kennedy is doing, she must be nine or so now, then I catch myself thinking how weird it is to wonder about a child you don't know. But that's what filming reality T.V. children does, you get to know these kids, care about them, and from time to time wonder about their well-being years later.
Wu-Tang's dad left the family when he was six. He had to grow up at a young age. I will not feel sorry for him. I will not! He is not the first child to grow up in a single parent household, it is no excuse for how he treats Kelsey. Wu-Tang says something about how if he had receive the loved that he needed in his relationships he could have given the same back. What the hell? Dr. Jenn calls this some kind of "breakthrough." I call it blaming others including nice women like Kelsey and Latrice for him being a straight up pig. Kelsey seems to sort of be snickering. I hope that's a snicker of disbelief. "Bingo," Dr. Jenn, really? He wins the $5,000 cash prize now? Spare us, please! What is with the coddling and praising him? Did she forget how pissed she was at him just the other day?
Teen Duck Lips, oh God. Teen Duck Lips remembers something back when she was two? It sounds like what Teen Duck Lips is describing is time outs. They made her sit by herself. You know, exactly what all the experts recommend you do when your child is two. But for some reason this was terribly traumatic for poor Teen Duck Lips and scarred her forever. There goes her voice box, it's gone, I can barely understand her now. She mutters something about how somebody hit her. Child abuse hit or just self-defense? Is that a look of skepticism on Dr. Jenn's face or is the collagen just a little extra puffy today? Oh please bring in Debra to rebut!
Dr. Jenn says the theme for Teen Duck Lips is no one was there for her.
No one was there for her??? Now, Debra and Michael are not perfect parents and in fact are pretty dysfunctional at times, but if anything, they are overbearing. They were always there, always home, have few outside interests other than their children and grandchild, and were always checking up on the kids. Teen Duck Lips complained about how smothering they were! They were the complete opposite of not there for their kids. Now maybe they weren't saying what Teen Duck Lips wanted to hear, like sure go have sex, use abortion as a form of birth control, and stay out all night every night once you do have that kid, but that does not mean they were "not there."
Someone was asking earlier if Dr. Jenn has seen Teen Mom. I don't see how she possibly could have. No way.
I know Sada did not want to discuss her family on television, so I get uncomfortable to see her sort of forced into it. Her parents fought a lot and her dad abused her, and I'll leave it at that. I will say though that she said this became "normal" to her. Which is an important point, because just because a child seems happy, healthy and normal does not mean their home life isn't dysfunctional. That is just their life and kids adapt to it.
You were living in a constant state of terror, Dr. Jenn remarks.
Sada points out that her dad when he wasn't out of control was the most loving parent. In a way that's worse, explains Dr. Jenn and Duck Lips, because they're so confusing and unpredictable and leave you guessing.
Whitney likes the idea that other people who were abused might see this episode. "I think abuse in general is something that should be brought out of the closet and discussed. And I think it will be a really important thing. I'm proud of you." I like Whitney.
Time to go relax, see ya everyone!
So Kelsey, Whitney, Duck Lips' fiancé, Jon and Liz don't get to talk about their childhoods? Why, because their childhoods were relatively normal and too boring for primetime? While childhood plays a major role for many people, not everyone with issues had a bad childhood and not everything can always be blamed on your parents.
Wu-Tang is in his usual asshole position reclined on the bed, only this time he has his hand down his pants. Gross! I don't claim to understand it but I know it's true some guys like to sit like that watching T.V., I guess it feels natural or whatever, but in the privacy of their homes please. Can you imagine the pearl clutching if Jon were shown with his hand down his pants like that? Wu-Tang always acts so tired and lazy, it's a wonder he made it in the business and in life in general. Kelsey is glad Wu-Tang was able to open up in group and thinks he can only move forward from here. She is such a sweetheart. She really wants the best for him even if it's not going to be with her, and that takes a lot.
They both want to stick with therapy and finish this out. Well, that's commendable. Kelsey says she needs to get to a place where she can forgive him.
Coming up, Debra! Wow, she looks like she's been run over by a truck. Or had a baby who grew up into Teen Duck Lips.
Dr. Jenn says the trauma Teen Duck Lips endured was all documented on Teen Mom. Well, exactly, and if you watched Teen Mom carefully, Dr. Jenn, it should have been crystal clear to you that, not withstanding Debra's behavior, Teen Duck Lips was a nightmare of a child and most likely mentally ill. She didn't listen, she didn't respect her parents, she was downright histrionic and they were at their wit's end with her. Of course they find the one clip where Debra gives Teen Duck Lips a light smack on her shoulder, without giving you any context for what the conversation was even about. It's not even from Teen Mom, it's from the first show 16 & Pregnant. They don't mention that Debra has said that Teen Duck Lips has hit her, too. They are both a mess and Teen Duck Lips is no victim here.
I have my own clip to show if I may. In this Teen Mom clip, Debra asks completely normal Mom questions after Teen Duck Lips got a boob job, like how her pain level is and if she's eating well. Teen Duck Lips snaps back at her like an ungrateful brat. Debra was also kind enough to take her to the doctor when Debra never wanted her to get the surgery in the first place, and Debra makes supportive comments like that you can barely see the incision marks. Starts at 5:15.
So suck it, Dr. Jenn!
Geez, from the way Teen Duck Lips talked you would think she was estranged from Debra, but when Debra walks in looking like something the cat dragged in, they both look happy to see each other. Debra seems downright proud of her daughter when Dr. Jenn gushes about how far Teen Duck Lips has come in therapy. She beams with pride and compliments the room decor (she's a real estate agent).
You see, I just don't believe Debra is evil. You can't fake stuff like that.
Debra says she just wanted to raise strong children, who know who they are and achieve their dreams. Sounds reasonable enough. She said when Teen Duck Lips got pregnant, Teen Duck Lips wanted an abortion, but Debra said that was against their religion and she couldn't do that.
Now, regardless of how anyone feels about abortion, Debra as Teen Duck Lips's mother probably felt she had a right to tell her she couldn't do that. But in the state of Iowa, Teen Duck Lips was only required to inform her mother the abortion would take place. Debra couldn't stop it. Any Planned Parenthood could have told Teen Duck Lips that. Teen Duck Lips chose not to override her mother, and that was her decision. Did I mention that if you watched the other shows you would know that Farrah tried to hide her pregnancy from the baby's father? And then even after he died, his sister had to get a judge to intervene just so she could see the only living link left to her brother. In many states, you can't cut a father out of the child's life legally. In Iowa a father has a right to petition the court for his full parental rights even if the mother wants to cut him off. In California that's called a Kelsey S. father. This is who we're dealing with here. Why not address that dysfunctional alienating behavior, Dr. Jenn?
Dr. Jenn says Debra is downplaying how monumental this moment was. Well, it was five years ago. Maybe she just wants to move on at this point, Dr. Jenn. Jeepers. Is it really appropriate for a grandmother to discuss how her grandchild's mother wanted to abort this grandchild? What if Sophia sees this someday?
Dr. Jenn says Debra is angry. Debra is like, um, nooo, I'm not angry at all actually, but thanks for your concern.
Dr. Jenn accuses her of hitting Farrah. Well, she slightly tapped her on the shoulder. I think it's important to be accurate here, and fair. There are two sides to every story. Debra said that when that happened, Farrah had been screaming, cussing and carrying on for 25 minutes. While many people these days including myself don't believe in laying a hand on a child in any form, there's a difference between holding a four-year-old down by the hair and beating them for wetting their pants, and lightly slapping your out of control teenager on their shoulder after 25 minutes of her histrionics. Context matters.
Not that that excuses ever hitting a child, but if Debra were in California she would have a point. See Veronica G. ("The court ordered the child abuse report to be withdrawn or Gonzalez given another hearing in which the San Jose family's entire circumstances are considered and the spanking put into context with the parents' growing frustration with a recalcitrant daughter.") Not to mention, I don't see any assertion from Teen Duck Lips this happened at any other time other than this one incident when she was 16. One mistake made in a fit of massive frustration does not a bad parent make.
Recalcitrant Teen Duck Lips says when she gets this way it's because she's aggravated. Well, that's hardly Debra's fault she has such a short temper.
Debra says this all boils down to Teen Duck Lips just won't be quiet when Debra asks her to be quiet. LOL! Shut up shut up shut up shut uuuuup!!!
Debra says Teen Duck Lips has hit her too and even called the police on her. When Teen Duck Lips gets mad she gets honest, and admits yes, she did hit her mother, too. Ha! Got her right where we wanted her! How come Dr. Jenn never says it's an issue that Teen Duck Lips is violent with others, too? It's funny the way she coddles her, but it's also really disturbing too.
Teen Duck Lips is out of control now, claiming everyone in the family is angry and doesn't get along. Well, welcome to the American family, Teen Duck Lips. From Ordinary People to Flowers in the Attic to August: Osage County, we are a country with a long history of dysfunctional families. Oh well, it makes for better films. Now eat your fish!
Dr. Jenn is falling for this all hook line and sinker. She's clearly firmly in Teen Duck Lips's corner. She's been bamboozled by a bamboozler! Dr. Jenn says Debra doesn't grasp how painful this is for Teen Duck Lips. Debra says she does grasp it! Exactly what does Dr. Jenn think she needs to do to prove this I wonder? Dr. Jenn says Teen Duck Lips needs empathy and understanding. Debra says that's why she came here and that Dr. Jenn twists her words. I really feel for Debra's frustration here, even more than I thought I would. I think empathy and understanding are the last thing Teen Duck Lips needs and I think Debra knows that, but no one will listen. Countless people have shown this head case empathy and understanding and it does ... not .... help. I think if anything, Teen Duck Lips needs tough love, not more coddling and poor you crap. Even Duck Lips agrees with that, and she's quite the authority on head cases and on smelling rats. Apparently she also hates ballet flats. Even Jon weighed in, singing la-la-la-la-la-la, Smurf along with me. Yep, pretty much.
Debra is just scoffing at this point and saying her heart is broken over this. Sure it's all fun and games when Jon and Duck Lips make fun but she is her mother, I get it. She bursts into tears. Well I see where Teen Duck Lips gets her odd disappearing voice box issues. So such a thing is genetic.
Debra feels she cannot read Teen Duck Lips's mind or heart. That's because she is trying to read the heart of a sociopath, and there is nothing but a blank page to read there. Debra says she's at her wit's end not knowing what to do, does my child need more hugs, does she need me to talk to her more? I don't get it. Neither do we, Debra.
Wow. What Debra should read is We Need to Talk about Kevin. Because for as much as Debra is a nut herself, it is never easy raising a mentally disturbed child and the things she is saying here are indicative of a mother who has poured her heart and soul into raising a mentally disturbed child and is, as is inevitable, coming up empty, and not only that but is now being attacked for doing the best she could. That's rough.
Dr. Jenn says she needs to gain a deeper understanding of her daughter, that's all. I don't agree. I think Debra has tried her hardest to understand the fruit of her loins. The fact that no one else in the house can make heads or tails of Teen Duck Lips either simply proves Debra's point. Entertaining as she is, in all seriousness, there is something fundamentally wrong inside Teen Duck Lips's head. Everyone in the house saw it and doesn't even want to be around her vortex. Are they all wrong too? Most likely Teen Duck Lips is a true sociopath, and I'm certainly not the first say so, and I don't think any mother could have handled her much better.
Dr. Jenn says Teen Duck Lips needs to mourn that her mother will never be what she wants. Ouch. But, that's probably true. No mere mortal will ever be the mother that Teen Duck Lips wants, and it's high time she get over that. If we want to psychoanalyze things, I believe Teen Duck Lips has expectations for people in her life that no one could possibly fulfill. A perfect mother who understands her inside and out, a perfect love and boyfriend that promptly turns into a fairy tale marriage, a perfect set of friends who always love her and include her and treat her like a queen, and so on. She creates unreasonable expectations for everyone around her that no one could possibly live up to, and when they fail, as they can only do, she lashes out at them and blames them. She of course does not expect the same sort of perfection from herself--being a good daughter, girlfriend, mother, friend. It's really sick quite frankly and I'm shocked someone as experienced as Dr. Jenn doesn't see what's really going on here. I can only assume this must be some sort of Stockholm Syndrome.
As much as Dr. Jenn thinks Teen Duck Lips is the victim here I am just as firmly sympathetic to Debra in this mess. I wish she could stay in the house so Dr. Jenn could see that the housemates would probably like her.
Commercials. Hm, Hershey's spreads. Kinda looks like Nutella, but I bet it's not the same. Nothing is the same.
Dr. Jenn pulls Sada aside and praises her for really progressing in therapy. She encourages Sada to bring her dad out here to the house and Sada agrees. Sada says she is nervous about that and doesn't want to air their dirty laundry, but she trusts Dr. Jenn. As wrong as Dr. Jenn is about Teen Duck Lips, I think she is correct that Sada needs to talk to her father in person. Sada calls him and he agrees to come out.
Another fantastic song, Ohio's own Joshua Radin singing Like They Used To.
The soundtrack and time lapse photography are impressive for a little cable show like this. But shows like this are often how the real greats get started.
Sada is upset because Whitney went to go play pool instead of going with Sada to take a bath. Well, but Sada told her not to come with her. God, I hate when women do that, and so many of us are guilty of it. Oh no it's fine you don't have to do that, but I'm going to be mad at you when you don't. How did we become so damn passive aggressive? Whitney doesn't really understand what she did. Neither do I.
Whitney calls her out on sending mixed signals. Sada says anyone would have known she really needed Whitney to be with her right then. Again, but she told Whitney not to come with her! I don't know, some people actually want some space when something monumental happens, so I can't agree with that at all. Whitney said they've been trying to work on Sada better communicating her needs, right?
Sada says she feels she did communicate her needs. By telling Whitney not to come with her? This is so frustrating. Hoodies really are making a comeback at least judging by this show.
Coming up, Sada's dad shows up and he seems earnest enough. Oh cool, I recognize this guy form Teen Duck Lips's past, and although I can't really place him, whether he was just a friend or boyfriend or what, I do remember he was awesome and frequently called her out. And finally the episode where they destroy a house in a therapeutic exercise and Jon wasted his whole life, which he defines as ten years. Now eat your fish!
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Kate is a twit said... 190
The sheeple are acting like they are all saints and would never curse or associate with anyone that does. Milo should check out Emily's timeline. She has used the "F" and "S" words on twitter several times, as have several of Kate's other fans, including Paige.
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And if Milo really has a teenage girl I'm sure that girl does the same with her friends. Its very typical of kids these days.
Over In TFW's County said... 196
FYI the recap may be a little late this week because I'll be out of town. I have to drive up in that big rainstorm this weekend, which I'm nervous about.
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I'll trade places with you! We're expecting yet another storm here from Sunday through Tuesday,. and then another one on Thursday. Sleet, ice, freezing rain, snow...all of the elements known to man. Looks like it'a coming from you. Thanks so much! We've been going through this since early January. I hate it.
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Brace yourselves....the new European model just in is BAAAAD news if you don't want any more winter storms. More @4. #ononotagain
You know I was thinking if Kate ruffled Jon's feathers on that phone call knowing damn well that he was in California filming CT and KNEW he would blow his top and that more than likely it would be caught on film. She is a very vindictive person and I wouldn't put anything past her. Just a little food for thought.
Did anyone notice nobody west of IndiaNNa won a book? Unless of course New Zealand would qualify. Or maybe I missed something before getting back to work. She is really a tool. Almost 40 going on 11.
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 141
''.....Context. He explodes on her after making 50 phone calls just to speak to his own children. She IS an asshole. She IS a nightmare. And he said so. You know what? Heck maybe these kids need to hear that this is NOT okay with him. Maybe they need to hear she's being a nut job. Will they grow up and deny their ex's the same or will they grow up knowing this kind of behavior is psychotic and unacceptable? I hope the latter.
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Thank you! As one that grew up in an abusive home, I have said before and I'll say it again: I would have given just about anything to know that someone cared! Considering the depth of her parental alienation, TCFW is probably telling Jon's children that he has not called them. Now that he has said it publicly, exposing her horrific behavior, I hope that she will realize that she really really needs to stop her nasty tricks!
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I so relate Remona. I spent so many years wondering why no one was helping me. I knew what my mother was doing was wrong, I also knew other people knew she was abusing me. Still, no one did anything to stop her.
I flat out told my Dad, who had long been divorced from my mother, about the abuse. I naively thought that his love for me would motivate him to do something. Sadly, he was too afraid of her to even confront her about it.
It's really sad when a parent's emotional issues with an ex affect their children so negatively. Even though I still talk to my dad and have been estranged from my mother for over 15 years, to this day I secretly resent his inaction.
Though I don't agree with Jon's public and swear laced outburst, it does show just how alienating Kate was/is and how very frustrating it has been for him.
And yeah, maybe, just maybe, if the kids see it they will have an understanding of how hard Jon's been trying to get them out from under their mother's narcissistic, fame seeking thumb.
JMO
I found cursing to be as common in pa as anywhere else I've been. 72 percent of American men curse. 56 of women. The other remaining feel morally superior I suppose. And only 5 to 15 percent say they've NEVER cursed. It's how the majority of Americans speak, but I would hate to think the majority of people are bad.
I just went back....Minnesota has a winner!!
That comment Jon made about "eat sh*t and die" is something I hate to admit that my friends and I used to say back in the 70's when I was a tennager. We didn't really mean for the person to die it was just a stupid comment that we thought made us sound cool.
About the not-a-contest: I think KK did give prizes to everyone who entered. Otherwise how could she give a prize to
16. Cassey (Minnesota) – bought lunch for a lady in line in front of her! Well done!
This "act of kindness" is to my mind both unimaginative and inappropriate. Unless there's more to it than that, people who go out to eat are usually well able to pay for their own food. I would be insulted if someone tried to pay for mine. Do I look like a street person? What???
I also thought
18. Allison (Georgia) – saved her money all year and surprised a struggling family who she babysits for a huge flat screen tv! That is awesome!
was over-the-top and probably made-up. Who would allow a teenaged (assumed from the saved all year) to buy them such a large gift?
The acts of kindness I think were admirable were the ones that were done over a longer period of time and obviously not just for the contest.
I wonder if KK changed the first names and/or locations?
By the way, I'm sure a list like this does NOT satisfy the legal requirements for publishing contest/giveaway winners. There's no way for anyone to verify that any prizes were actually given out.
Paula, I'm team Jackson all the way, but I don't want to see him end up with April. She's so whiny and annoying. He deserves better. Doesn't Jesse Williams have the most amazing eyes?
I haven't seen the clips of Jon going off the deep end on CT, and I won't (don't get VH1, for one thing, and really don't want to watch CT for another), but I don't blame him for finally blowing his stack. This has been going on for over 4 years (nearly 5, if you count the time they were separated). Remember TFMJG showing up at the gates of the konpound and calling the cops on Jon when he refused to let her in? I wish he hadn't done it on TV, or in public, for that matter, but I can certainly understand why. He's shown remarkable restraint, for the most part, Everyone has their breaking point, and he finally reached his. IMO, he's shown more strength than a lot of us gave him credit for. For those who think he should just let the courts handle it -- that's what he's been doing all this time, and it's gotten him nowhere. Either the judge has done nothing to put a stop to TFMJG's behavior, or she's been blatantly ignoring court directives AND getting away with it -- or both. Admin -- could his attorney demand that the proceedings be transferred to another county or another judge? Would that be allowed or even possible?
Formerly -- IIRC, Jon left for CA early one week (Monday?) and was back in PA by the following Thursday, so unless he was supposed to have the kids on that particular w/e, he didn't miss a custody w/e. Seems to me I recall someone reporting a tweet or statement or something from him at the time that he didn't stay for the wrap party so he could be home in time to get his kids for the w/e.
"Eat shit and die" is not a nice thing to say, but it's a phrase I recall hearing often during my high school and college years.
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I never heard that, Millicent. It's a new one to me, and I'm really not a sheltered person or a prude. Even though I graduated from a private religious college, the kids could curse with the best of them, but that expression was not one that was used.
Kate is playing this game of hers well. Kate, knew Jon was on this show, and she knew him well enough to push the right buttons, and Jon would go off. We don't know what kind of contract Jon signed with CT. was it a film all, leave nothing out or did it have limits. It looks as if there were no limits, and everything was filmed. And kate must have found that out, so she threw in a monkey wrench, PO him off, it gets filmed, and everyone has a cow.
As for what he said, its the group of people Jon hangs with, it their talk. His gf says pussy, he say Kate should eat sh1t & die, for Jon & friends this is perfectly acceptable talk. Most people know when to say things and when to shut up, depending on who you are with and where you are, some don't know or never were taught that. It's like manners, depending on the place you are in, depends on the manners you use, and that is usually most of us. There are peopl who have no clue as to how to act or use manners in public, perhaps they were never taught manners. Like, for example: if I'm at home, by myself, and I feel like eating like a caveman, nobody would know, unless I said something. I certainly would never eat that way outside my house. Just like what happen to Paula Deen, if she had not said the N-word in public, none of us or anyone would have known she even used that word. JMO
Let's see. In sheep logic (or is that an oxymoron?), BV and his cohorts, with their disgusting obscenities and their penchant for outing and taking people down, are heroes. Jon, who is denied communication with his children, who is trying to establish a lasting loving bond with them, who has set them free from the exploitation of reality television, is the villain.
Okay, then, whatever...
I'm still cracking up at Kate's fans freak out over the saying "F**k off & die". It's not a death threat and it's a hysterical reach to believe it is. The panty puckering & pearl clutching over it is more mental than the phrase. IMO And it is just a phrase, again, not a death threat.
I openly admit I have a foul mouth. Cussing doesn't phase me. Well, I take that back. My gramma has alzheimer's & dementia & I did do a double take when I heard her cuss recently. But that is only because she is uber religious & never in my entire life had I heard her even say damn. so when she whipped out a "f**king bitch" when someone cut us off in traffic, I did a double take. She & I both laughed about it later. It was more of a "whoooooa gramma!" than being offended by it. I don't see cussing as some moral deficiency. The f word is seriously one of the most versatile & colorful words we have. I can't find the movie video on YouTube, but here is the IMDb link to a great documentary about the word.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486585/
If everyone who has ever used the f word is morally corrupt, then hell is going to be VERY full.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 200
I found cursing to be as common in pa as anywhere else I've been. 72 percent of American men curse. 56 of women. The other remaining feel morally superior I suppose. And only 5 to 15 percent say they've NEVER cursed. It's how the majority of Americans speak, but I would hate to think the majority of people are bad.
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Where has anyone said that cursing makes someone a bad person? I have a mouth like a sailor, but I typically don't drop f bombs when it's not appropriate to do so. I think the cursing discussion is just deflection anyway. Jon should not be ranting about his children's mother on national television. I don't care if it's "eat shit and die" "eat shit and fucking die" or just plain "she should die." It shouldn't be said, period. (And no, I don't think that's an actual death threat. That's not the point.)
People keep saying "oh, poor Jon, he's pent up these emotions for four years and he finally cracked." Huh? He says he wrote a book laying out all his feelings, he claims to have spent 20 grand in therapy, etc. He has obvious rage issues that need to be addressed through real therapy, not on television. He is a loose cannon.
Doesn't someone on Twitter have screenshots of the Goody person's sewer language and suggestive obscenities? Let's see that and compare it to Jon's comments. What say Milo then?
Lila, the sheeple think Jon's cursing makes Jon a bad person. Did you not read their tweets?They were posted here.
Does anyone actually think Kate will pay postage to send a book to New Zealand? She does grift her chocolate covered rice cakes from there though.
The Lauren is a big bully to teen moms, especially Farah. She must be very jealous considering how plan she is. She supposedly adopted a dog recently, but I've never seen her post a pic. Lauren is in love with Giuliana Rancic
Hurry! Get those repair materials unloaded over there by the sheep pen!! Grab the hammers! They've busted it down and are attempting to escape in a frenzy!
I only skim so I missed that. Sorry.
"Eat shit and die" and "eff off and die" are pretty common expressions and I've never taken them literally nor thought of them as death threats when I've heard them.
Come on out to the SW. We have not had a winter this year and the heaviest outdoor wear I've put on is a sweater. I'm expecting some kind of cold snap because all of our fruit trees are blooming and it's only the end of Feb.
NJGal51 said...
Maybe she can be the traffic girl on a local radio station.
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Yup, cause she's a train wreck. But she does have the perfect face for radio.
Listen, this CT show is on VH1. I hate to point out that their target demographic is not the same as the bloggers here. What Jon did and said on that show was suitable for that demographic or it wouldn't have happened. Now if he started dropping F bombs on Oprah or Wendy Williams, that would be a different matter. He knows what's appropriate and when. Has no one else on CT dropped F bombs? And for people worried about the kids seeing it? I'd be more concerned about the person who would make sure they saw it.
PJ
Ugh, "eat shit and die" is the new smoking.
It's an idiom.
id·i·om noun \ˈi-dē-əm\
: an expression that cannot be understood from the meanings of its separate words but that has a separate meaning of its own
: a form of a language that is spoken in a particular area and that uses some of its own words, grammar, and pronunciations
: a style or form of expression that is characteristic of a particular person, type of art, etc.
It's like saying, "go f*ck yourself".
Do you think someone's going to insert their penis into their own vagina? Huh?
It's an expression that Jon picked up along the way, obviously.
He didn't grow up in a bubble, no matter where he's from geographically.
An hour away, where I'm from and where Jon hung out a whole lot, is Philly and "eat shit and die" is a common expression.
So, fungool (scrapes hand under chin)!!
The other remaining feel morally superior I suppose. And only 5 to 15 percent say they've NEVER cursed
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I don't curse. I guess I'm in the 5 percent group. It would scare the heck out of my kids if I did and I'd feel uncomfortable if I did it. It's just not me. However, I don't think I'm morally superior by any means. It's just something I never grew up with, never heard my parents curse ever...not one time, or their parents, or my siblings. I don't find it offensive if someone else does it, nor look down on them, but I wouldn't want to listen to a steady diet of it.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 3h
@Kateplusmy8 Profanity laced speech over & over again by EX reveals a serious moral deficit, low self esteem & an inability 2communicate!
Of course her bosom buddy, BV, is the exception to this analysis. Geez, Milo, you are not only a tweeting hypocrite, but you are an idiot as well.
Inside edition showed a clip of Jon CS they didn't disagree that KK is obsessed with fame.
They also didn't diss Jon...
Wendy Williams just came on and before she walks over to her chair, she announced the top stories and the last one was Jon and she has a clip. The picture shown on the screen has Jon in the safety eye glasses. Jon vs. Kate!
After the clip, WW said, Jon not so much cursing. But she encouraged Jon. She said, hang in there Jon! There must be unbelievable stuff that St. Tony told WW about TCFW. WW didn't trash Jon. whew!
When Jon mentioned the smoke in the sky in LA, the response Liz gave was awful. Instead of what she said in the way she said it, she could of just stepped over to him and smiled and put her arms around him and said really cool, what she actually said but in a different tone, kinda sexy like. And she would of racked up points instead of talking crazy to him. If she would of done that instead, she would of definitely gotten a kiss!
When Jon started up about the 50 phone calls, when he got off the phone, instead of Liz talking to him like she did, she should of went over to him and just hugged him and said it would be ok and let Jon do the ugly cry of the year. If he could of just sat down and said, why won't she let me talk to my kids? I haven't seen one boy in months, why does she keep my kids away from me? She is such a mean bully about my visitation, I go to the gate, and I wait for whoever comes down the driveway outside of the gate. Sometimes, 4 kids, sometimes 3 kids, ect. She won't even give me the gate code so I can drive in and drive close to the house to pick up and drop off my kids. She works them like mules after school. And IF this applies, why won't the judge do something, I have tried everything. God help me.
How would TCFW spin that?
Jon, publish your book. Someone said get a ghost writer. Do it. Don't give her the time to write a book about you and publish it before you publish yours. What about your book, Robert? You haven't posted a message in a month. Did TCFW shut you down? What happened?
We deserve an answer.
Well, I don't really swear but I don't feel morally superior, just the way I was raised...my kids do swear with their peers though ,lol
Jon was being filmed for CT. What I wonder, is why was he trying to phone one of his children while in the process of being filmed? If he/she had answered, would he have talked to that child on camera? Was it all just one big set up for the shock value?
I don't think a person who swears is bad, and of course have sworn myself when the need arose. But, I must lead a sheltered life, because in my 74 years, I have never heard anyone swear like Jon does. To me, what he and Liz do is a bit above simple swearing..it takes on a life of it's own. Not saying it is bad or good, just very different than I am accustomed to. I live in a world where swearing like they do is not a part of people's every day speech, and I prefer that. Others may not..to each his own.
There is a picture of a weather man on the internet that he says, when you have 4 different weather events in one week, these are the End Times!
The Bible says in the End of Days that we would not be able to tell the seasons apart. So true!! Down south here the wind chill this morning was in the low 20's. Should of been somewhat warmer. When the tornado of 1989 hit Huntsville, the big tornado that killed a lot of people, that night a man was shown on tv with a Huntsville Stars minor league baseball cap on going through the debris while SNOW was falling and the debris was looking white. It was in the 70's at 430 pm and by nightfall, it was below freezing and snowing. The owner of the HS saw this on tv and said, we have really made an impact in that community and he wrote out a check for 25K in 1989 for the victims of the tornado.
As my name says, WalktheTalk! I for many years tried to be the good person in my divorce, my ex walked all over me and my son.
When I began to fight back and showed that I wouldn't take it any longer did things change for the better. I told my ex that I would never teach our son to hate him, if he did it would be his own fault. Our son as he got older found out what his dad was really all about. He also finally stood up to his dad and they never had a close relationship.
Several years ago we had to fly back when his father became ill, we couldn't believe the conditions he was living in, his life was miserable.
He passed away and when we went back to Ohio for his funeral, it was sad to find out his 2nd ex had basically cleaned out all of his money, had my son excluded from the will for her son, then had the guts to ask my son to pay for all of the funeral. My son and I wised up
and walked away from all of it. Seems she was pissed because the life insurance policy was in my son's name. Life has a way of playing out for the Good. I am glad that Jon is spitting fire now and hopefully things will start to turn around for him. We all have our limits and if saying a few good cuss words helps him get though the fight then so be it! I like to think that I am a good Christian woman. I can't stand it when those who are say things like "that's not being a very good Christian" I say too them " get behind me satan".
Jon, publish your book. Someone said get a ghost writer. Do it. Don't give her the time to write a book about you and publish it before you publish yours. What about your book, Robert? You haven't posted a message in a month. Did TCFW shut you down? What happened?
We deserve an answer.
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I may be in the minority, but I don't think that anyone "deserves" an answer. Robert doesn't owe us. Yes, it would be nice to know what's going on, but he may very well have his reasons why he is keeping silent on this one right now. We just don't know.
Lauren is in love with Giuliana Rancic
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She's also in love with the HLN girls -- Jane VM and Beth Karas.
I don't think that there's too much "upstairs" with that one.
P.S to my note. How many time did the Creator get angry with mankind in the Bible? Didn't Jesus Christ get angry in the temple with all the money changers?
As for what he said, its the group of people Jon hangs with, it their talk. His gf says pussy, he say Kate should eat sh1t & die, for Jon & friends this is perfectly acceptable talk.
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This sounds a bit like Milo. We don't know who Jon hangs out with, nor do we know that this is perfectly acceptable talk among them.
She has used the "F" and "S" words on twitter several times, as have several of Kate's other fans, including Paige.
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Yes, indeed. I've noticed that both can let it fly with the best of them!
Re: Grey's Anatomy I hope Avery tells Jackson to take a hike. He is a main character though, so I'm not sure what's going to happen.
PJ
This tweeter is a gem with a name who fits her:
@Snotty_Girl: @TaylorArmstrong Kate Gosselins lawsuit had nothing to do with money, if your not informed, Jon will make you look stupid #CouplesTherapy
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No, actually we don't. The only people Jon owes anything to are his family and friends
Noticed a number of 'winners' seem to be of school age, doing good deeds there. Great, but 1. why are they following Kate on Twitter and 2, would they really enjoy the crookbook- which TFW spells as two words- cook book, LOL
I want to add my 2cents here.
While I'm not a fan of cursing, I think it was GREAT that they caught Jon's raw reactions on CT when it came to the stress TFW is putting on him. This absolutely will do TFW no favor in court. I'm sure there is plenty of film that ended up on the cutting room floor that could be brought into play regarding his unbridled frustration and reactions towards not being allowed to talk to his children. And if anyone caught it (on the video) when he was talking with Liz he said "maybe I'll just take my portion of the money and sue for custody of the kids that want to live with me.)<-- that was back in October or whenever they were filming. Lo and behold...guess what he's doing now.
TFW has backed herself into a corner and only has a few handful of sheeple protecting her now.
On cursing: as you can gather from my screenname english isn't my first language but I can curse like the best. Overhere in the Netherlands is common that almost all movies and tv shows are broadcast in english with dutch subtitles and that's where I learned to swear like a pro ( a lot of foreign people think you all talk like that in the U.S. because of what they hear in tv shows, movies, music etc.)
So what I'm really trying to say is that sometimes words are just words, what offends you might not be intended to that.
So if any of you ever come in contact with some rude dutchmen, sorry we didn't mean to be rude.
( oh and a belated hi!!!!!!!!! to dwindle, kiwi, dmasy, franky and all the old ( no I'm not saying you're old) party gang!
The Bible says in the End of Days that we would not be able to tell the seasons apart.
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Interesting. What scripture verse is that? I remember reading in Genesis about the fig leaves, and that there will always be day and night, hot and cold, etc., but nothing about the seasons in the end of times. I
think in one of the books in the NT, in reference to the end of times, Jesus speaks about the seasons that they will always be there and they can be predicted, but His coming is unknown. Is that what you're thinking about?
Now if he started dropping F bombs on Oprah or Wendy Williams, that would be a different matter.
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My worry is that Jon is not modulating himself on tv interviews, at least interviews not in front of a studio audience.
His latest featured Jon saying "that is bullshit".
That is not good and not respectful to the talented, professional woman interviewing him.
So! Now that we've discussed Jon's "sins" near to death, lol, what do you wanna bet TFW is tweeting her support for Son of God (Roma Downey's new project), in 3, 2, 1...
Tucker's Mom at... 197
''What the hell were we expecting?
Jon is undergoing what can truly be said to be therapy- group, couple and individual.
Editing himself will get Jon nowhere if this process, filmed for rtv and all, is to help him accomplish anythingl. This is honest, real and organic as it pertains to the therapy process.
Jon would be wasting an opportunity to experience the pain, introspection, connections and support, among many other things, if he let himself and his behavior be dictated by the presence of cameras.......''
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Tucker's Mom...I stopped c/p your comment at that point, but I agree with every word you said in the entire post. You've explained very well exactly in what 'context' Jon's comments/behavior should be taken.
Your observation that ''rtv "celebs" and their vast experience and comfort level with cameras and crews afford a more honest look at the process'' articulated something that I've not seen said before, in the context of CT.
Many have said that Jon knows what rtv is, but until your comment, I've not really connected the CT couples ease in front of cameras with the process of therapy. I will remember your words the next time people scoff at Jon saying CT was 'free therapy', which he and Liz needed as a couple w/11 children and a really really mean former wife.
Thank you for this insight. I'm behind in reading comments, so I'm sure others have said the same thing I'm saying...but better!
Over In TFW's County said... 200
''.....I also thought it was Georgia because I remember once that Milo had tweeted about a tornado warning and one touching down, and someone pulled up the weather alert map and the tornadoes were moving through Atlanta.''
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Oh...I remember that tornado weather alert map! It was Georgia, and I remember the aerial photo too. I can see Milo being a Heidi...to me, that is an 'old-fashioned' name...I suppose because the book about Heidi was around for decades.
Farrah's "whisper-cry"
http://blog.vh1.com/2014-02-27/farrah-abraham-whisper-cry/
PJ
Getofftwitter and Winsomeone---EXACTLY my thoughts!!!! Kate completely set Jon up and he played right into her sick little plan. She knew he was filming, she knew what buttons to push and what to say to get a reaction out of him, and she knew exactly how he'd react and that it would all be there for the cameras to catch. You know, of all things the kids are gonna have to see one day, seeing their dad (language as ugly as it is) angry about not being able to see or talk to them really isn't that bad, all things considered. IMO, finding out "Mommy" used as me as a pawn to hurt Daddy and embarrass him aaaaand intentionally kept me from him when he wanted me is a lot worse than Jon showing emotion and frustration over wanting to see me.
Can't wait for you to see Being Farrah, Admin. You might need to watch it with a barf bag, though. You've been warned. :)
Thank you for this insight. I'm behind in reading comments, so I'm sure others have said the same thing I'm saying...but better!
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Thank you.
It's a different way of approaching Jon's raw emotions on CT.
So, tonight is the big destruction scene?
Boy, I'm betting the expletives will be flying out of Jon's mouth!
There is a Heidi "Walxxxx on FB that has a pic of a young girl and what looks like a gulf shore beach with a long sandy walkway. There are a lot of Heidi's and Carls in GA and TN.
Glenn Schwartz @HurricaneNBC10 2m
Brace yourselves....the new European model just in is BAAAAD news if you don't want any more winter storms. More @4. #ononotagain
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Oh, good grief, local. Here we go again. The windchill tomorrow morning is predicated to be minus 16. This is just insane. I tried to pump gas a little while ago and couldn't stand at the pump long enough to put ten dollars in the tank.
@AllisonCapo This person hasn't tweeted Kate is two years but thanks her today for winner her contest. Is that odd or is it just me that's suspicious?
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No, actually we don't. The only people Jon owes anything to are his family and friends
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I think the comment was about Robert's book, but you're right. Neither one of them is obligated to tell us what's happening with the books.
Sherry Baby said... 41
The Bible says in the End of Days that we would not be able to tell the seasons apart.
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Interesting. What scripture verse is that? I remember reading in Genesis about the fig leaves, and that there will always be day and night, hot and cold, etc., but nothing about the seasons in the end of times
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I don't know about end times or fig leaves, I think it has to do with those huge solar flares we've been seeing from NASA. They really affect weather patterns. It happens every few years.
This too shall pass.
(btw, what does the bible say about fig leaves? Now you have me curious)
Walk The Talk said 31
We all have our limits and if saying a few good cuss words helps him get though the fight then so be it!
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I agree. We don't know even 5% of what Jon has been going through, I'm sure. He kept his mouth shut for a very long time. I would not have been able to do that. If Jon wants to vent about what a conniving, evil, sociopathic, narcissistic bitch his ex-wife is, then have at it, Jon.
Kate may think she's exposing Jon and trying to make him look bad to the general public but her mind games will be her own undoing. He can throw the F-bomb around 'til the cows come home. I DON"T CARE.
A question for you all. Is ''demasculines'' a word? That Lauren person seems to have fixated on that word. Does it mean what she thinks it means?
Hmmm and a sheep tries to be rational..Spaulding is a fan:
Jacqueline Spalding @JacquieSpalding 15h
@MY_2BCOLLIES @Fly_On_TheWall @BuzzedBunny Seeing some clips from Couples Therapy - I gotta say - I feel bad for him **ducking for cover** !
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES 4h
@JacquieSpalding @Fly_On_TheWall @BuzzedBunny Feel bad for him? You're kidding. Jon's made his own choices & IMO dangerous. #BetterDuck
Jacqueline Spalding @JacquieSpalding 41m
@MY_2BCOLLIES @Fly_On_TheWall @BuzzedBunny Jon seems stuck in the blame-game IMO tho primary caregiver has much more influence over the kids
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 18
Lila, the sheeple think Jon's cursing makes Jon a bad person. Did you not read their tweets?They were posted here.
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Who the heck is this Lila person? We're only getting half the conversation. lol!
Lila almost sounds like a derivative of Milo. hmmmm
A question for you all. Is ''demasculines'' a word? That Lauren person seems to have fixated on that word. Does it mean what she thinks it means?
And the conspiracy theories begin:
Jacqueline Spalding @JacquieSpalding 53m
@MY_2BCOLLIES @Fly_On_TheWall @BuzzedBunny Jon is going about this the wrong way - always has - publicly denouncing ex wife - not smart
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES 1m
@JacquieSpalding @Fly_On_TheWall @BuzzedBunny Call it intuition but I think Jon is up to something else & you might be shocked if I told you
Shocked! Shocked I tell you!!
Well good for her she's holding her own:
Jacqueline Spalding @JacquieSpalding 53m
@MY_2BCOLLIES @Fly_On_TheWall @BuzzedBunny But it takes two to tango #justsaying
Boy does the above photo in Admin's recap of TFW when she was in DWTS show how bad the 11's are between her eyes!! No Botox???? Fillers???? Eye lift???? Rrrriiiiiiiiiggggghhhhhtttt!! Lol
I can see Milo being a Heidi...to me, that is an 'old-fashioned' name...I suppose because the book about Heidi was around for decades
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I always picture "Heidi" as she's seen on the cover of the Johanna Spyri book, with the blonde hair parted in the middle and the long braids. Somehow I don't think of Milo that way! lol!
And if anyone caught it (on the video) when he was talking with Liz he said "maybe I'll just take my portion of the money and sue for custody of the kids that want to live with me.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Interesting. I thought Jon said he was doing CT because he wanted to sue for custody?? Now, it turns out he didn't? WTH, Jon. How can anyone take him seriously when he constantly changes his story?
I don't recall Jon ever saying I went on CT to get money to fight for custody. That was our own speculation why he might have done it.
I also didn't take that statement so literally as if he just thought of it after having trouble making phone calls. I doubt that is the first time he's thought of such an idea.
I also thought the cameras were on pretty much 24 7 so I'm not sure when he could ever get away to call in private. But that's what you sign up for.
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Glenn Schwartz @HurricaneNBC10 2m
Brace yourselves....the new European model just in is BAAAAD news if you don't want any more winter storms. More @4. #ononotagain
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Oh, good grief, local. Here we go again. The windchill tomorrow morning is predicated to be minus 16. This is just insane. I tried to pump gas a little while ago and couldn't stand at the pump long enough to put ten dollars in the tank.
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It really is tiresome. If you think about it it really started in early December. I know we had snow before Christmas. I hope this doesn't continue and turn into a chilly rainy summer. I like my summers hot and dry.
The Bible says in the End of Days that we would not be able to tell the seasons apart.
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It's February. It may have been one heck of a winter but it's still the right weather for the winter season. :)
I'm one of those that thinks we can't possibly make general future climate predictions based on just a hundred years of decent data. I cringe when I hear experts doing that. The earth is billions of years old. 100 years is but a tiny minuscule fraction of that.
Jacqueline Spalding @JacquieSpalding 15h
@MY_2BCOLLIES @Fly_On_TheWall @BuzzedBunny Seeing some clips from Couples Therapy - I gotta say - I feel bad for him **ducking for cover** !
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Why should she have to duck and cover just to say she feels bad for someone who hasn't been able to talk to his children in TWO WEEKS despite 50 phone calls trying to get in touch. Due to their mother's alienation.
Geez. Talk about sheeple. Just like we can say we don't like what Jon does, they should be able to say they don't like what Kate does.
Yes PA Dutch the wind is really picking up. It's not so bad when the wind is minimal but these wind chills are brutal.
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