Joy...When shopping/bar crawl are in the same sentence, count me in. It's interesting to see what you shopped for after a few bar crawls. However, snorkeling sounds like fun as well. Such decisions.
Rhymes with Witch said... 191 How would she deal if she tried to go for help to a real estate agent, or attorney, or PR firm and they said they did not want to represent her because they have different morals? 178
Jan Brewer (gov AZ) just vetoed a bill that would legally discriminate against gays and others. I don't care what her personal beliefs are. IMO she did the right thing. Additionally, it could have expanded as did the laws in Nazi Germany - again, IMO. &&&&&&&&
I agree with you, Rhymes. The purpose of the bill was to allow business owners the right not to serve gay and lesbians under the guise that is violatedtheir religious beliefs. I think the author/authors of the bill truly (blindly?) believed this would take care of the issue of caterers, florists and bakers who didn't want to be involved with gay weddings and that would be the end of it.
What this bill could have done is allow individuals of all religions to refuse service to anyone who did not share their beliefs. I wonder how the author of the bill would have felt if she went to a small shop owned by Buddists or Muslims to buy some spices and she was told they didn't serve Christians? She would likely be outraged, as her bill was only meant to discriminate against gays and lesbians, not rightgeous members of the "correct" religion like herself.
I appreciated Gov. Brewer's remarks that the bill addresses an issue that was not even remotely a problem in AZ. I know for my own state, I feel like I can't open the paper without reading about a boyfriend abusing, shaking or killing the baby or toddler of his girlfriend. These stories break my heart in two and this is where legislation or intervention needs to be, not fussing over making a wedding cake for a gay couple.
"Just check with the pool boys, anyone at the hotel, for info or directions. relax at the pool, or take a left leaving theed hotel and in half a block you will be at Duval Street! it's never too early to start a bar crawl!"
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I'm just going to hang with the pool boys. Are they wearing thongs? Later I'll head down to Mallory Square for some key lime pie. My weakness. That, and the pool boys!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 13h Friday night movie night: The Shirley Temple Story and single serve Ben and Jerry's frozen yogurt! #FunFamilyTime
What 10-year-old boys are interested in spending Friday night at home with their sisters watching a movie about Shirley Temple? Isn't this rather odd, or is it just me?
My toes are in the sand. I have an umbrella drink in my hand. I encourage all friends suffering in the cold North to come on down.
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"Off the Florida Keys, there's a place called Kokomo, that's where you wanna go to get away from it all. Bodies in the sand, tropical drink melting in your hand, we'll be falling in love to the rhythm of a steel drum band..."
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 13h Friday night movie night: The Shirley Temple Story and single serve Ben and Jerry's frozen yogurt! #FunFamilyTime _______
Joy -- enjoying the trip and the travelogue. If anyone wants to read a good book with some history about the Dry Tortugas (and a cracking good mystery to boot) I highly recommend Nevada Barr's "Flashback". Most of Barr's books are very good, for that matter. They're set in different National Parks across the country (her protagonist, Anna Pigeon, is a park ranger). I'm enjoying relief from the seemingly eternal snow/cold we've had this winter.
Just reading about Jon's anger/breakdown on CT is heartbreaking. I suspect that one reason he's stuffed the anger down for so long, aside from the fact that he seems to be a pretty laid back and easy-going person most of the time, is that he knew it would give TFMJG satisfaction in knowing she'd provoked an outburst from him. Then she would just escalate her behavior. He may also have been afraid that she'd take it out on the kids.
Beyond DIsgusted said... 8 Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 13h Friday night movie night: The Shirley Temple Story and single serve Ben and Jerry's frozen yogurt! #FunFamilyTime
What 10-year-old boys are interested in spending Friday night at home with their sisters watching a movie about Shirley Temple? Isn't this rather odd, or is it just me?
It is not you, it's pretty odd, and speaks to the kids' having no say in how they spend their evening. 8 kids who always of everything together, 3 boys who only seem to participate in 'girly' things, Legos aside. Once the teeny fro-yo cups were finished, the boredom factor had to settle in quickly. Shirley Temple, to counter the ex's messy profanity this week. She's a tool, and a simple tool at that.
Great to hear your surgery was successful Chef! Are you joining us in Key West today?
We're almost there. Bernie and I stopped last night to throw rotten eggs at SeaWorld in Orlando. I'm exhausted. Security guards ran faster than we did but Bernie fought them off and saved the kegs!
Can't wait to jump into the beautiful emerald waters!
Beyond DIsgusted said... 8 Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 13h Friday night movie night: The Shirley Temple Story and single serve Ben and Jerry's frozen yogurt! #FunFamilyTime
What 10-year-old boys are interested in spending Friday night at home with their sisters watching a movie about Shirley Temple? Isn't this rather odd, or is it just me? &&&&&&
Lol, well that's Kate for ya. Her 'normal' is what 99% of the population would consider odd. This is, after all, a woman who thought a several hour interrogation about a piece of peeled paper from a $15 Target globe was reasonable and justified.
I highly doubt even the girls wanted to see a biopic about a 1930s child star. That was surely Kate's choice. I agree with others who said she wanted to show them that even 81 years ago, kids were in the entertainment business supporting their familes.
Some of the comments said that CT was a safe place. Call me crazy, but, for me, one of the requirements for me to feel safe is privacy. I don't dispute the value of the process--I think that Jon has made a lot of progress. I guess that I don't think that the end justifies the means. I have always said that biggest mistake, and the most damaging one as well, was the decision to put the kids on camera. It hardly matters what happened after that--those kids were robbed of their childhoods because their privacy was taken away. Many children deal with divorce and parental alienators. It is the public treatment that is unique and damaging. So, I just can't see how Jon's participation will benefit his children to the degree it will offset the damage.
Doing PRIVATE individual therapy to deal with his trauma, and developing strategies to deal with TFMJG, is where, IMO, his focus should be. Clearly, he has a long way to go in terms of his personal relationship issues. Maybe Liz and he can make a go of it, but, from what we have seen, there is still a lot of work to do in the relationship area. Is this relationship really in the best interest of his children? Unless the answer is an absolute YES, he should be focussing his energy on his children, not his love life. It is even more critical because of TFW's mental illness.
That is JMO, of course. This is all my speculation, but, given his neediness, it seems likely that, like his own children, he did not have the kind of childhood that met his needs appropriately. Pretty common in a home in which there is alcoholism. The result is the inability to have supportive, healthy adult relationships, in which there is a give and take and a balance of power.
I wish Jon well, and genuinely hope that he will emerge from the CT with some insight and skills.
Chefsummer, I hope your surgery went well!
Mel, thanks for the kind words...much appreciated.
I won't be making the long trip to FL--don't want to leave my grandson yet!
It's all utterly discouraging, and that's just from my perspective as a former watcher of the J&K show, what I could stomach of K8, reading here, and media coverage.
Just that amount of invested energy drives me crazy! I can well understand Jon's plight. But maybe it's too little, too late. She's always had the media backing her. She is an extremely skilled manipulator...a most evil one, but only a few have the ability to see that. WHY, is the mystery. From day one, I saw her for what she was. I just wanted Jon to react, point things out, infront of cameras.
I've never seen CT, just blurbs here and there. She had meltdowns for years, and received nary a criticism. Seemingly, he's unleashed his frustrations..and as usual, is the one being blamed.
The media must consist of and cater to, the lowest common denominator.
Jockey Bra is doing a paid programming on reinventing the bra. Kate should have cashed in on that...making sure that "your boobs are in the right place." She could be making millions right now...
chefsummer said... 65 So let's list what's fake about Kate.
1. Her hair. 2. Her boobs. 3. Her teeth. 4. Her personality. 5 Marriage to Jon-(probably loving Jon)
What is real about this woman? ((((((((((((((((((((
Her mental illness? Hey, there's nothing wrong with anything you listed, but when you act like you've done no work on yourself when it glaringly obvious, it's a sickness. Kate quips about having "blonde" moments, which is idiotic. She's a brunette who gets her lid bleached. Hey, Kate, the chemicals don't actually seep into your brain and lower your IQ, and btw, you're an embarrassment to real blondes and women in general, for that matter.
chefsummer said... 68 I'm having eye surgery this AM wish me good lucky you guys. ***** Good luck! I hope the surgery goes smoothly and that it helps you! Report back!
She's laying it on pretty thick. I'm sure tonight they'll be watching Song of Bernadette.
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I like that movie! lol!!
Gotta fight my way through the grocery store lines. Everyone and his brother will be out there today before the the snow demon casts his wrath upon us once again.
Joy, do we have to wear the same swimsuit all weekend and use the same grungy towels? I brought my week -old play clothes with visible stains (mu-mu, straw bonnet, and crocs)
Enjoying the trip, the sights, and relaxing by the POOL.I'm not waterish but enjoying being burnt to a crisp with the pool boys fawning over me. Thanks once again for your hospitable hospitality.
I'll bring my homemade dillweed dip and a veggie platter. Maybe a loaf of Irish soda bread, too, since we're coming up on St. Patrick's Day. ******* Since we're going to Key West, I'll make something citrus-y- my new LOVE, Lemon Pudding Cakes with Blueberry Compote.
Mel said... 89 I really felt bad for Liz at the end of the house trashing session when Jon was supposed to say to her what he wanted that he wasn't getting.
He said I want to be with someone. Then caught himself and said I want to be with you. ***** It was very telling. Jon will keep trying to put a square into a round hole. Liz meets some important criteria, so he glosses over the bad stuff. I'm betting Liz has a much softer side, but she needs to stop nurturing her nasty persona.
re: Shirley Temple night. Doubt they actually watched that ,and if so, bet the twins skedaddled.TFW is just creating her cozy family nights to enhance her image as the 'better parent.' Not many are fooled any longer.These kids must be so out of synch with their peers when discussing what they do/see on the weekends.
LisaNH said... 106 MabelD said... 99 Alec Baldwin wrote a book on parental alienation: "A Promise to Ourselves: A Journey Through Fatherhood and Divorce." In his own life and others’, Baldwin has seen the heavy toll that divorce can take---psychologically, emotionally, and financially. He has been extensively involved in divorce litigation, and he has witnessed the way that noncustodial parents, especially fathers, are often forced to abandon hopes of equitable rights when it comes to their children. He makes a powerful case for reexamining and changing the way divorce and child custody is decided in this country and levels a scathing attack at what he calls the “family law industry.”
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I'm not so sure Alec Baldwin should be writing books like this. ******** Pot or kettle, Alec? Now he's threatening to leave NYC because his precious little, fart-free celebrity bubble was burst, so he's threatening to pick up his ball and go home to L.A. Don't hold your breath, Big Apple. Baldwin promised to leave THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA when Bush II was re-elected.
sparkle said... 134 Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 41m @MKSandAssocInc U seem polite, respectful & often answer w/class. Why N the world do U represent him? Totally a puzzle? All abt $$? ****** Says the moron who worships a woman who cavorts and galavants with a married man while her tits are on display and her toes are stuffed into hooker shoes when they're not being licked by a total stranger.
Ex Nurse said... 19 Doing PRIVATE individual therapy to deal with his trauma, and developing strategies to deal with TFMJG, is where, IMO, his focus should be. Clearly, he has a long way to go in terms of his personal relationship issues. Maybe Liz and he can make a go of it, but, from what we have seen, there is still a lot of work to do in the relationship area. Is this relationship really in the best interest of his children? Unless the answer is an absolute YES, he should be focussing his energy on his children, not his love life. It is even more critical because of TFW's mental illness. -------------------------------- Yep. It's actually really scary to see the damage Jon is dealing with from his time with Kate. If she screws up a grown man in the ways we've seen, what kind of damage is being done to those kids? IMO he picked her, he had eight kids with her and 100% of his non-working time should be spent on those kids. I don't see how anyone with eight kids and a job has the time and energy to put into anything else. There just are not enough hours in the day. If it were me, a relationship would definitely wait another eight years until the kids are all grown. I personally wouldn't consider putting my dating life on hold for eight years to be a massive sacrifice that I wouldn't be willing to make for my kids. Especially after the bad choices he made immediately post-divorce.
But Jon and I are two very different creatures. Even though I've been married 20 years, I know I could function just fine on my own. Jon can't seem to function without a woman by his side.
Sorry if it sounds harsh, but as much as I'm rooting for Jon to save those kids, I haven't seen evidence on CT that he has it in him to do it. The more I see of Jon, the more I realize that despite his good heart, those kids are just screwed.
"In what did he get his penis stuck? :) Did they call the fire department?" (182)
Well... if you have to know, Sleepless, in the clip I watch, it was in a camping stove. (Go figure...) At first, I did wrote it in my post. But then, when I re-read it before publishing, I erased it: it sounded too stupid. But I did see it. In a "Stories form the ER" episode. And that's part of the reason why lately I'm always watching BBC's documentaries on YouTube. Last night: "Victorian Farm"... 12 episodes of pure delight.
These stories break my heart in two and this is where legislation or intervention needs to be, not fussing over making a wedding cake for a gay couple. ***** I remember on Top Chef several years ago, a lesbian didn't want to participate in a challenge that was cateriing a hetero wedding! I was like, are you serious? Try pulling that crap in the professional world.
What 10-year-old boys are interested in spending Friday night at home with their sisters watching a movie about Shirley Temple? Isn't this rather odd, or is it just me? ***** If this doesn't show a narc mother, I don't know what does. It must suck having to do everything as a unit. How big is that house and how many tv's do they have? For God's sake, Kate, let the boys and girls, or whatever mix, pick their own movies! No kid gives a poop about Shirley Temple... Sorry, Ms. Black but it's true.
OK, can't take any more winter. I am here now. Changed bathing suit , crocs on. Looking for umbrella drink and pool boys. Dmasy, please order up for me.
Hey guys, watch out for that sun. Don't get too pink!!
This Canuck has actually been to the keys. Wonderful. Thanks for the trip. Off to bar hop soon.
That is JMO, of course. This is all my speculation, but, given his neediness, it seems likely that, like his own children, he did not have the kind of childhood that met his needs appropriately. Pretty common in a home in which there is alcoholism. The result is the inability to have supportive, healthy adult relationships, in which there is a give and take and a balance of power. ***** I agree with this. I think Jon's issues and his passive style and need for love at any price might stem from his childhood. Instead of being independent and confident, he was like a little, gullible kid when Kate got her claws in him. He didn't stand a chance of not coming out of that really messed up and scarred.
Long time lurker who is joining the trip. It is SO nice to be warm! My little dog insisted on coming, said he is tired of having to stick his butt in the snow to do his business. We are going to play and run in the sand.
PA Dutch Mom said... 34 I suppose we should be grateful when we wake up and it's a sunny two degrees. It's -37° right now in Orr, MN.
I can't imagine what that must be like. ******* Me too- just can't imagine. We're might get a foot or more of snow on Monday. Dear lawdy!
We just got a puppy and he needs to go out very frequently as part of house training and a small bladder. It has NOT been fun to don and doff a coat and accoutrements all day! At least my dear DH is the one who takes him out for his middle of the night pee ;-)
"Here are eight verbal habits that immediately mark you as somebody who's either foolish or shifty:
4. Hiccups
This is when, uh...you insert a word or sound into a sentence when, like...you're pausing to think, um...exactly what you're going to say. I once heard a guy say "um" over 100 times in a five minute presentation. By the end, the audience was practically tearing their collective hair out in annoyance.
Fix: This one is easy. Simply eliminate the hiccup word and pause instead. When you simply pause in silence, rather than trying to fill the thinking space with the hiccup, you end up sounding wise and like you're choosing your words carefully. You may need to record yourself a few times to break the habit, though.
I'm on my way. We had a slight delay. Santa let one of the elves drive and when Santa told him we were going to Key West, the elf thought he said "we're going to see Kanye West". Turns out the elf has a huge crush on Kim K. and we went speeding away to wherever they are.
Santa discovered the error and corrected the flight plan. We are now on the right path. Hope to see you all soon.
Considering the weather forecast for the northeast, I'm voting that we stay a few extra days. Is everyone in?
dogsandkids said... 48 Long time lurker who is joining the trip. It is SO nice to be warm! My little dog insisted on coming, said he is tired of having to stick his butt in the snow to do his business. We are going to play and run in the sand. March 1, 2014 at 11:21 AM ******** Welcome! My dogs love the beach. I can't wait to take our little puppy to the OBX!
Kate follows People magazine on twitter. Last night, she retweeted on of their tweets:
Retweeted by Kate Gosselin People magazine @peoplemag · 18h RT @peoplepets: You can't make this up: A parrot helped solve the murder of its owner http://peoplem.ag/u568N
I know she has a parrot, but what an odd thing to retweet. But then I consider having the kids watch the Shirley Temple biopic an odd thing too. She never fails to amaze.
Rhymes -- I like Stabenow too. Have you read Sue Henry? She has 2 series -- both originate in Alaska. One features a senior who travels the country in her RV with her dachshund and the other features a musher who breeds and trains sled dogs. Good mysteries and interesting books.
White Organza said... 42 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ lol. We used to get patients on my general surgery unit with their 'members' stuck in a variety of items, including glass bottles, various cookware and things like vacuum attachments. Men are a whole different sex as someone once said! They sometimes need minor surgery.The worst was a guy who put his in a pool vent thing with suction and he lost most of it, pretty gruesome.
Just started reading this thread, and saw Ingrid's post at #52. We have suffered with very low temps and many dark days here in Saskatchewan, last night was -55* celsius. I have not left the house in 6 weeks now, have been so depressed and even suicidal at times. Live out in the country, so have not seen or spoken to a human this entire time. I have not even answered the phone this entire time, sending husband to bring groceries home for us. I have it really bad. Then last week, my mom-in-law(she is the best!), bought me a Yuma Lite, you wear it like a baseball cap, it mimics sunlight in it's light, either white light or red light, wear it for 30 minutes at a time, as soon as you wake up. So I have had 8 treatments using it, and have stopped feeling suicidal, only having short naps instead of sleeping 24/7, am feeling better with every use. I highly recommend this for any one who suffers from S.A.D, it is sure helping me!
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES Feb 28 @CJWhodunit @Fly_On_TheWall The work that @BullyVille does is extremely important to everyone. Protecting us from the dredges of society.
Well... if you have to know, Sleepless, in the clip I watch, it was in a camping stove.
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Was the stove turned on? Double entendre!
"Pot or kettle, Alec? Now he's threatening to leave NYC because his precious little, fart-free celebrity bubble was burst, so he's threatening to pick up his ball and go home to L.A."
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I read this as "pack up his balls." Guess that works, too!
ohhh...Key West sounds like heaven right now....would love to come and visit. I can bring a fresh batch of Kale chips and a single serve B&J ice-cream to share. Better start digging out of this fresh new snow if I want to make it before this weekend is over. Kinda funny though that the sheeple are all falling over Jon breaking things and cursing during the ANGERMANAGEMENT excersize....did they miss the other contestants who did exactly the same, I heard Taylor swear too....okay, Jon threw his weight in it, but I guess he had a lot of unexploded anger that had to get out! And somewhere Kate is grinning her Chessire Cat smile...happy that Jon crashed and burned on public tv.....thanks to her!!!
Thanks to those who got me here safely on only two bottles of brandy. The flight crew didn't even mind when I mixed up a round of Alexanders for the passengers.
I feel great. I'll have it made in the shade if I can balance on Bernie to get poolside.
Mel said...Guess I'll be a little more judicious in what I post. :-) _______________________
Mel - I don't think you need to change anything about your posts. They are always respectful and well thought out. You speak your mind and even when some of us may disagree with your opinion, you should not be attacked for voicing it.
chef - I'm very glad your surgery went well. Excellent news.
Call Me Crazy said... 63 Mel said...Guess I'll be a little more judicious in what I post. :-) _______________________
Mel - I don't think you need to change anything about your posts. ****** I agree. The vast majority of us know that Mel's posts are honest and respectful, and that's what makes this blog cool.
PA Dutch Mom said... 60 Well... if you have to know, Sleepless, in the clip I watch, it was in a camping stove.
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Was the stove turned on? Double entendre!
"Pot or kettle, Alec? Now he's threatening to leave NYC because his precious little, fart-free celebrity bubble was burst, so he's threatening to pick up his ball and go home to L.A."
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I read this as "pack up his balls." Guess that works, too! ***** His set is big. HUGE.
prairiemary said... 58 ***** I'm so happy you're feeling better! SAD is real. My fuse has definitely been shorter and I can not wait until the pool opens. I need it bad after this winter, which doesn't hold a candle to yours!
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES Feb 28 @CJWhodunit @Fly_On_TheWall The work that @BullyVille does is extremely important to everyone. Protecting us from the dredges of society.
Unless she is clearing out a pond, she means dregs of society! LOL! Sheeple really have a way with words, don't they?
Beyond DIsgusted said... 59 MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES Feb 28 @CJWhodunit @Fly_On_TheWall The work that @BullyVille does is extremely important to everyone. Protecting us from the dredges of society.
Looks like he's still their hero. Oy. ***** Yay! Go, go, go vengeful vigilantes! Screw what the Lord says, YOU be the judge and jury and exact your justice!
CJWhodunit@CJWhodunit·3 hrs @MY_2BCOLLIES @Shortnsaszy @BullyVille I would be in jail,my husband's life&career ruined,my kids in foster care.#ThankGodForTeamBullyville
The worst was a guy who put his in a pool vent thing with suction and he lost most of it, pretty gruesome.
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Lost the suction? Did he have to purchase a new cleaning system? :)
Seriously, though...sheesh, imagine coming into the ER with various household items attached to your body. Don't give TLC any ideas, or this will be their next show. Nothing is off limits for them.
Hi everyone! So glad to see more folks joining our virtual Key West getaway! I just got back from Dry Tortugas, do you like my souvenir hat? Yes, everyone MUST wear the same swimsuit while you are at the pool. Of course! Bonus points if you just pull shortts or a skirt over it, and pull a tee shirt over top, then your ensemble is complete. And no pesky underwear to wash, aren't we efficient! Now let's get up and get ready to wall down to Mallory Square for the sunset celebration, there are lots of performance artists to see!
Ok, this is a great trip and all but VCU is playing the Saint Louis Billikens at six pm, it will be on ESPN2. So right after Mallory Square, I have to find a decent sports bar STAT!
Oh, dear Lord, Formely (57), ssshhhh... be quiet: I think you inadvertently just might have pitch an idea for a new TLC series: "Men with their thing stuck in things! This week: conditioner bottles!"
Formerly Duped said... 57 White Organza said... 42 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ lol. We used to get patients on my general surgery unit with their 'members' stuck in a variety of items, including glass bottles, various cookware and things like vacuum attachments. Men are a whole different sex as someone once said! They sometimes need minor surgery.The worst was a guy who put his in a pool vent thing with suction and he lost most of it, pretty gruesome. ******* That sucks, dude. Whoops.
"Here are eight verbal habits that immediately mark you as somebody who's either foolish or shifty:
4. Hiccups
This is when, uh...you insert a word or sound into a sentence when, like...you're pausing to think, um...exactly what you're going to say. I once heard a guy say "um" over 100 times in a five minute presentation. By the end, the audience was practically tearing their collective hair out in annoyance.
Fix: This one is easy. Simply eliminate the hiccup word and pause instead. When you simply pause in silence, rather than trying to fill the thinking space with the hiccup, you end up sounding wise and like you're choosing your words carefully. You may need to record yourself a few times to break the habit, though.
http://www.inc.com/geoffrey-james/8-conversational-habits-that-kill-credibility.html ***** I"m forwarding this to DH. His hiccup is "you know". Saying, "no" in response to his rhetorical question hasn't worked so far.
Hey, Joy- go UVA basketball! We used to go to games there when we lived in Richmond. I told DH just today that we have to plan a trip to C'ville- maybe next football season.
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES Feb 28 @CJWhodunit @Fly_On_TheWall The work that @BullyVille does is extremely important to everyone. Protecting us from the dredges of society.
Unless she is clearing out a pond, she means dregs of society! LOL! Sheeple really have a way with words, don't they?
__________________ Wait. Is this the one with the PhD?
University of Virginia just beat syracuse and has won the ACC regular season title in basketball! Ok I'm happily at the bar watching basketball, y'all just check out whatever you want, I will catch up later! I will just ask folks on the street if they have seen a bunch of ladies in crocs and muumuus!
Tucker's Mom said... 64 Call Me Crazy said... 63 Mel said...Guess I'll be a little more judicious in what I post. :-) _______________________
Mel - I don't think you need to change anything about your posts. ****** I agree. The vast majority of us know that Mel's posts are honest and respectful, and that's what makes this blog cool. ------------------------------ I'm on board with this group, Mel. I think your posts are fair and evenhanded. You often say what I'm thinking. I get your sediments, and frustrations...with both parents
Why on earth would she subject all of her 8 kids to the Shirley Temple movie? On a weekend night? She is such a control freak! Why can't those children go to their cousins house, go bowling, go to the new Lego movie?
Did she not get any tickets to the Lego movie by possibly grifting? Funny, she makes dang sure what name brand of frozen yogurt her #familyfun gang are eating. That is a grift. I hope Ben and Jerry don't fall for it.
I totally believe TCFW knew Jon was filming, what he was filming and she on purposely didn't answer texts and calls to make Jon explode on camera.
I hope Jon and Robert can each publish their books soon.
Sherry Baby said... 81 MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES Feb 28 @CJWhodunit @Fly_On_TheWall The work that @BullyVille does is extremely important to everyone. Protecting us from the dredges of society.
Unless she is clearing out a pond, she means dregs of society! LOL! Sheeple really have a way with words, don't they?
__________________ Wait. Is this the one with the PhD?
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She's the sheep who claimed she earned a Ph without the D.
I swear....stupid is too kind a word for some of these sheep.
A hiccup that infuriates me is when a person is being interviewed and the response starts with, "I mean...". They have not even answered anything yet so what the heqq are they clarifying? This happened a lot when the athletes were being interviewed in Sochi. Even some celebrities are doing this.
It's another starry warm night in Key West. I have made a bunch of new friends at Jack Flats bar! The bartender is so nice to keep the beer flowing! And I've taught everyone at the bar one of our cheers. ” you don't wanna go to war with the Rams! Don't start no stuff won't be no stuff! ” 3 minutes to go, ten point game.
Thanks, Tuckers Mom, always heard about SAD, but never even thought I had it, so many people must be suffering this winter, I am going to get a passport, so can be ready to spend time in a much warmer climate should this happen again next winter:) Mel, thanks for posting the yumalite site, people need to know this is available and that it really does work. I think it cost my mom-in-law around $100. Canadian, so it is pretty affordable to most people. Glad things went well with your eye, Chef! Happy partying to all who are on the virtual trip!
"Truth Teller" seems a little confused (which isn't unusual):
Truth Teller @Truth_Teller201 1h @poorbabi @Cato_Cat @Kateplusmy8 @DrJennBerman That destruction scene was A JOKE and proves #CouplesTherapy is made up drama!
Truth Teller @Truth_Teller201 9m @Kateplusmy8 Re watched Jon's rage destroying the house while talking about ur marriage & am afraid 4 ur safety as he has a gun! Be careful!
Rage or made-up drama? You need to make up your mind TT. LOL
Truth Teller @Truth_Teller201 9m @Kateplusmy8 Re watched Jon's rage destroying the house while talking about ur marriage & am afraid 4 ur safety as he has a gun! Be careful! ******* my money says tfw responds to this
I haven't finished reading all of the comments yet, but had to respond to 2 that I did read.
Chef, so happy that all went well! Much love to you, hon.
Sparkle #17, love your assessment of why TFW chose Shirley Temple biopic; you stated it perfectly. See, kids, this is your JOB, to support mommy in the lifestyle I want to become accustomed to!
Truth Teller @Truth_Teller201 9m @Kateplusmy8 Re watched Jon's rage destroying the house while talking about ur marriage & am afraid 4 ur safety as he has a gun! Be careful! ____
Speaking of excellent movies, DH and I just watched Mr. Nobody on Amazon instant video. It was absolutely fascinating. I've made a shortened link to it below.
prairiemary, I live nearby. Depression is a bitch, especially when we've hardly had any sunlight.
I've been where you are. It's tough, for sure. May I make a suggestion? As easy as it is to just stay home under the covers (Yep, I've been there!), try to force yourself to go out. I know it's overwhelming even having a shower but it really helped me.
Not every day, of course, but try to do it every other day. Even if it's just going out to get milk. And hang in there! :)
The whole CJ thing was always confusing to me. I never had all the details. Strange that she would say BV saved her from jail. I would call a lawyer if faced with jail not BV. But what do I know?
Judy Doody! I just watched about 20 minutes of the Shirley Temple Story and I agree very few 10 year old boys would find it great Friday night fun. I hope their Lego® stash was nearby.
Chefsummers--Glad to hear that everything went well!
LMG and other grannies out there: Any wisdom to share about dealing with other set of grandparents? They have practically moved in with my son, DIL and new baby. I want to let them have their private time to adjust together, but I feel like it is at the expense of my time with the baby (have I mentioned that he is an angel?) ! They have always been very involved in every aspect of dIL's life, and now my son's too. He has said he is resentful of their expectations and usurping of his time, but right now, he wants to support my DIL, and doesn't want to make waves. My son and DIL decided to have him circumcized in a traditional Jewish ceremony and receive a Jewish name. I think that they were very uneasy about this and probably felt somewhat threatened (they are not Jewish). I am hoping that this is just an adjustment period, and that they will back off before my son gets fed up. He is very easygoing, but he does store up his resentment. I'm glad that he is talking to me about it, but It is very touchy territory. Any feedback would be appreciated!
That biopic, which I did enjoy, really got into this idea that Shirley was a commodity and also was being "used" by the American people to feel better during the Depression. She knew that and shouldered that burden, which no child is ready for. Most people meant her no harm, but it still wasn't good for her. She was bought and sold like a thoroughbred, not a 7 year old child. She was treated like a pick me up in bad times, like a beer or a hug, not a person.
The thing is, the film doesn't spell out SHIRLEY WAS EXPLOITED AND IT WAS BAD. It just presents the facts, take it or leave it. Even Shirley herself, though she has hinted at some really horrific things, was always reluctant to go there. She gave us the facts and let US decide if we think she was exploited. She didn't spoon feed the idea to anyone. I think her entire LIFE she felt obligated to make people happy and did not want to burst everyone's bubble, and I get that.
I think if it's not spelled out in black and white for Kate, she doesn't get the greater point a film is trying to make. She doesn't see the obvious serious issues about her childhood. She just sees the tap dancing and cute little laughs. Meanwhile studio heads are sparring over a tiny child's contract worth millions.
I saw it's on Youtube! I may try to watch it all the way through again when I can.
Oh I've seen Shirley's lifetime achievement SAG award speech and it's so funny how even in her 70's she still maintained some of the unique mannerisms she has. She sort of moved her arms the same, and her facial expressions also mirrored the sort of things she did as a child. We really are who we are at a young age.
I also think most boys would be bored out of their minds watching that biopic, unless maybe it was a boy interested in tap or something. And really some girls would be bored too.
As I said before, Shirley did not age well. Even in the last couple decades it's really gone downhill, I think in large part because of political correctness. Some of her films have been swiffered from the airways, others hardly air anymore. Twenty years ago you could find her films on regular T.V. all the time. They're all but gone except on maybe a few obscure classics cable channels. Kids T.V. is so different from the things she did, I just don't think it's translating well. She had a great run and will be remembered with fondness, but like most child stars, it finally came to a firm end.
Bottom line I think Kate just looooves Shirley Temple because look she's a child star and she turned out just great it actually HELPED her, now let me exploit my kids. She isn't reading the record of her childhood carefully enough.
I'm really enjoying this virtual trip to Key West, because in real life I'm looking at the falling snow. What looks beautiful and is appreciated on Christmas Eve is disheartening in March. Another cold week ahead.
I wish there was the option on this blog to "like" a post. There are so many I agree with and I can't respond to them all especially as I read posts many hours after they are published and I feel out of the loop.
OK back to visions of thong clad pool boys and tropical drinks.
You know interesting 6 degrees of separation for me, I was nannying for someone who was at that very same SAG ceremony that night, I remember their dress and everything. Did the kids give two hoots about SAG? No. We played video games, cooked pasta, did some art project. It filmed early for the east coast so it was an early night. I remember they were going through the mail later on the counter still in their SAG dress lol.
I was new to it all then and thought how weird to be babysitting not for someone who is having a dinner date at the local mom and pop place, but someone going to the SAG awards. We did not watch the ceremony, no one in the house cared, and I had no idea until now that Shirley was honored that night. No one mentioned it. Now years later I finally watched her speech I missed and enjoyed it. This whole celebrity thing and famous thing and rubbing elbows thing just does not concern the average child. It is really an unusual child who cares one bit about any of that. They just wanted to be KIDS that night. This is why Kate is so hard to believe when she claims the kids have such an interest in being on T.V.
Do I believe one or two of them may have some interest in T.V., sure. But the odds that she popped out eight children who all just love the idea of being on T.V. when few other kids concern themselves with such a thing is slim to none. Either they never said that, or she brainwashed them into thinking they love the cameras, or they're just saying that to shut her up. Judging by their solemn behavior on camera the last two times they have been on it is hard to believe they love this at all.
Regarding the idea that all 8 kids wanted/still want to be on TV, the most damning evidence against that was the handwritten "No Cameras Allowed" sign on the twins' bedroom door. TFW can put words in their mouths until her dying breath, but that sign was written by a child. Her child. Who did not want to be filmed.
Call me crazy, but, for me, one of the requirements for me to feel safe is privacy.
Everyone has their own view of what is "safe" for them and their loved ones. Jon was "private" for man years as to the abuse he and the children received/are receiving from Kate. Personally, I don't find anything "safe" about being private, in every situation I've come across it makes the abuser stronger. What you consider "safe" is not what I consider "safe" nor perhaps what Jon considers "safe". At some point in the future, I'll bet the Gosselin children will be grateful to their Father that he finally took Kate's issues public
Somebody above mentioned that they thought Dr. Jenn and Farrah were starting to look like each other. True enough. ----------------------------------------- Dr. Jenn battled an eating disorder for a decade in the 80's. She helped Joe Francis' fiance with this issue last season of CT and shared that it was an issue she struggled with as well:
What did you write your doctoral dissertation on and why? I wrote my doctoral dissertation on the use of the non-diet approach to treat eating disordered women. I was inspired to write it because of my own experienced having overcome an eating disorder using that method. During my youth I was an elite level rhythmic gymnast and struggled with an eating disorder which lasted long after my retirement from the sport. This went on for a good decade of my life. It was a constant obsession. I thought the best I could hope for was to be a "normal" weight but be completely obsessed with my body and food.
Fortunately I was introduced to the non-diet approach and the work of Elyse Resch and Geneen Roth which changed my life. The idea of giving up dieting terrified me but I had hit "rock bottom" and didn't know what else to do. Through a lot of hard work and the use of this approach I became eating disorder free. I never thought that would happen. Food and weight is now a total non-issue for me. I eat what I want, no restrictions, and listen to my body. I never worry about my body or weight. I am completely free of the obsession and the constant background noise I used to experience and have been since 1991. I wrote my doctoral dissertation The Effects of an 8-Week Intuitive Eating Program on Eating Disordered Participants based on research, my clinical experience as a therapist, and my own experience in recovery. My No More Diets app is based on that dissertation.
- See more at: http://www.doctorjenn.com/about/faqs/qa/#sthash.RkCSKzug.dpuf
Clo Bo @ChloeXiaobi46 34m @Kateplusmy8 I would like some of your help. I am going to be making 'Easy Chicken Enchiladas' am I supposed to cook the chicken before hand
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I don't know about any of you, but I prefer the chicken in my enchiladas to be raw, right out of the freezer. Why even bother to defrost?
Good Morning, so happy everyone is enjoying the virtual Key West trip! Today is another day with sunny skies, high temp close to 80, decorative pool boys keeping a continental breakfast spread convenient to the pool, and I think a couple drag queens followed me back from Aqua last night ! Today we can relax by the pool with a good book. Or take a tour around town. Go shopping. And we all have to go to the southern most point marker and have a group photo there! That's after breakfast and relaxation. I celebrated the University of Virginia and the Virginia Commonwealth University basketball wins a bit TOO much last night. made lots and lots of new friends tho!
Joy, the cheese danish is to die for! But someone has put fat free half-and-half at the coffee bar, and if I'm on a virtual vacation, I must have the real thing.
Will TFW be having an Oscar party tonight? Because if there's one thing almost-10-year-old boys like more than Shirley Temple, it's watching awards shows!
Mmmm, this pool is nice. So relaxing to just lie back and be waited on hand and foot by the pool boys. Is it too early for pina coladas? I'm looking forward to our red carpet appearance tonight. Hope my new muumuu isn't out of place. It sure shows off the results of my "good bra". Anyone feel like a good game of Scrabble poolside?
I forgot -- Rhymes -- the two Sue Henry series' have a couple of crossover books that are fun. If you liked the Max and Stretch book you read, you don't have to have read the Jessie Arnold series to enjoy them.
I've been gone a couple of days and I'd like to post a few observations:
1. Argh, I missed the road trip....love Key West! 2. As far as the discussion re: respect for differing opinions. While I absolutely agree each person's "story" and opinons should be respected, it seems to me that a few of these posters who insist that their "stories" and "viewpoints" should be respected often criticize Jon for his stories and his opinions....can't have it both ways....sorry. 3. FYI, the sheeple do visit and post here and, if you are observant and take the time, they are easily recognized. 4. As stated above for those those who still insist that Jon keep quiet....Remember...Silence is the abuser's best friend.
Let's get dressed in our Oscar viewing finery later this afternoon. Before the soiree starts at the Hemingway house at six, we should go to a Key West tradition, Drag Queen Bingo at the 801 bourbon bar! Www.801bourbon.com
Also, for those wondering why the Judge has not taken more action against Kate, I was reading an article yesterday about a Judge, in Connecticut I believe, that refused to give a Father custody of his child even after his ex-wife had been accused of hiring a hit man to kill him. The child was turned over to the maternal grandparents even though no custody hearing had/has taken place.
I can't speak from that perspective, but as a fairly new mother, I can relate my experiences. My mom, who lives close by, came to help me in the mornings so that I could get my other three children off to school without having to take a newborn out in the bitter cold. She'd stay and help with grocery shopping, cleaning, some laundry chores, etc., then go home and repeat the process at the end of the day, staying with the baby so that I could go out and about and get some things done. She was (and is) a godsend. Did she practically move in? Not really, although I wish she would have! I'm not sure how I would have managed without her help.
Husband's parents don't live as close by and they both have full-time jobs, and while they did come to visit and bring food, they weren't here on a regular basis. My mom and I talked about this, and she said she actually wished that they could have been here more often because it would have helped her out!
I don't exactly understand how his parents have cut down on your visitation or time with your daughter and new grandson. Can't you all be there are the same time? If they've practically moved in, don't they help her with things that need to be done? I would think that if they did, this would be appreciated. I know that in-laws can sometimes wear out their welcome, but this, too, shall pass. I don't know what you mean by your son hoping they will "back off." Exactly what do they do that they usurp his time? My husband tells my mom over and over again how grateful he is that she was there and he owes her "big time."
Paula, google Dr. Elizabeth Morgan. This happened some time ago -- 15 or 20 years -- but the judge in that case said there was a 50/50 chance her ex was sexually abusing their young daughter, and still granted him unsupervised visitation. Dr. Morgan spent a year in prison for hiding her daughter from her ex.
I finally made it down. When we woke up yesterday we were confronted with something we haven't seen for a while...RAIN! I spend a cozy day reading, drinking tea, catching up on some shows and playing candy crush. "Something Real" is turning out to be a really good book and candy crush is addictive. I'm about to delete it from my iPad. Bring on the mimosa's and the pool boys!
Ex Nurse, so sorry about the problems with the other grandparents. I don't have to deal with that aspect of it because my SIL's parents are truly sweet people. When we go to visit the boys, we have a family get together with all of us and his parents as well. They always say how good it is to see us, but they want to let us enjoy our time with the boys so they do not come around much until after we are gone. SIL's father told me that he and his wife want us to enjoy private time with the boys like they always get to do. That's what kind and considerate people they are.
However, I've seen the flip side of the coin with my mother, who was always with my brothers 2 boys and when she knew the other grandparents were coming over, she made a point of being there, too. She truly did hoard in on their alone time with their grandsons.
I'm so sorry, but I have no advice for you except to discuss your feelings with your son. Then he and his wife, or perhaps just his wife, can talk to her parents. However, don't feel uncomfortable being with that precious baby, and holding and hugging him no matter who is around. You are grandma, too.
Much love to you, sweetie, during this difficult situation. Please keep us updated on how things are going.
Privacy emboldens the abuser.... Thanks for your respectful response. I have said this many times on this blog, but maybe you are new, so I will repeat it. Privacy is not the same as secrecy. Secrecy protects the abuser, and privacy protects the victim. Admin said that jOn takes these types of things to court. This is JMHO, of course. I don't think that I am in a position to state that all if the kids want the same thing, be it flavor ice cream or having their true-life drama splashed on television, tabloids and blogs.
Windsong, thank you for giving a different point of view. How wonderful that your mother was there to help, especially when you have 3 other young children as well.
Clo Bo @ChloeXiaobi46 34m @Kateplusmy8 I would like some of your help. I am going to be making 'Easy Chicken Enchiladas' am I supposed to cook the chicken before hand
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This has to be a joke. Someone is doing some chain-yanking here. Aren't they?
Paula said... 131 Also, for those wondering why the Judge has not taken more action against Kate, I was reading an article yesterday about a Judge, in Connecticut I believe, that refused to give a Father custody of his child even after his ex-wife had been accused of hiring a hit man to kill him. The child was turned over to the maternal grandparents even though no custody hearing had/has taken place. &&&&&&&&&
The whole system needs to be overhauled. Judges are given too much latitude. It seems like the judge immediately picks a side. Often, when it turns out the side they picked is a rage-filled parental alienator, they find themselves having to accept that they were wrong. Which they apparently are unable to do. So in order to protect their ego, they look the other way and continue to allow the alienator to alienate.
Question for those who are familiar with family law. If the judge in a family law case is not enforcing the custody order, is there someone higher than him/her to appeal to?
LMG-- Thanks for your thoughts. My natural inclination is to pull away so that the new parents can have some space. But, yes, I am definitely entitled to time alone, too. Being separated from my son's father brings some extra drama and time issues, too. We co-hosted the circumcision ceremony, and plan to attend birthdays etc, together. But, other than that, I want to see them separately.
I am in a position to be available most days, due to a flexible work schedule. She volunteers at a non-profit one day a week, so the plan is that I will have him for the entire day every week.
To Ex Nurse- I understand completely what your son is experiencing. My thoughts: your son is now a father, and one main role is to protect and maintain his own family. In laws are notorious for not recognizing boundaries (my parents included). You need to encourage your son to speak from his heart. To discuss it with his wife, now that first few days have passed and she is physically stronger. He needs to tell his wife hiss frustration, kindly, and hopefully she will understand that her first responsibility is to her child and husband, not to her parents. Transitions like this are tough for some, and can be marriage breakers. Their family has to come first. That means meeting their needs. Together they need to have honest conversations with her parents. While they are forever grateful, and love them, they need to ask them to step back so they can begin to form their own family without interference. The conversations should come from the heart, with love and respect, not anger or resentment. This is a passing transition, family is forever. Your son and DIL need to stand up for their new family.
3. FYI, the sheeple do visit and post here and, if you are observant and take the time, they are easily recognized.
I think your sheeple sniffer is broken at times, as you have called me and Mel sheeple too, and neither of us are. I can sniff out my own sheeple thank you very much. They cause no harm, so leave them be and they will soon waddle off back home again.
I think your sheeple sniffer is broken at times, as you have called me and Mel sheeple too, and neither of us are.
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lol!! Well, my sheeple sniffer isn't broken, and I haven't called you or Mel a sheeple. They do post here and while they may cause no harm most of the time, there have been situations where they tried to stir the pot, and then reported back to their flock that "we" all fell for it.
Pot-stirring, in my opinion, may be harmless, but too much of it wears thin and really isn't amusing because it's used as deflection and gets so many people worked up.
Steven Ousley II @stevenousley 9m @Kateplusmy8 haven't heard from you in too long. I still think you're awesome-contrary to popular belief. Ppl are so quick to judge.
Way to tell Kate that she's not popular with most people! She must really appreciate the reminders that she is so disliked by so many! Sheeple just don't THINK!
Ex Nurse, please correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't you say that you prefer privacy with regard to personal problems? If so, I can't help but wonder why you're bringing a personal, family problem here to the blog?
Pot-stirring, in my opinion, may be harmless, but too much of it wears thin and really isn't amusing because it's used as deflection and gets so many people worked up.
I just read the comments..some I agree with, and some I don't. It's not my life's work to be pro Kate or pro Jon. I just take the comments for what they are, various people's opinions...opinions that are no more true or false than my own opinions. I only take offense when some want to call others names, because their opinion doesn't mess with their own. Why would you let a person you don't even know upset you because their opinion is different than yours..this I do not understand.
Dmasy said... 3 My toes are in the sand. I have an umbrella drink in my hand. I encourage all friends suffering in the cold North to come on down.
Joy has organized a fine get-together!
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Did you bring any extra sunscreen? My nose is burnin' to a crisp out here....
Joy, as a matter of fact, my son in law bought himself a new boogie board just yesterday in Destin Fla. He says we can all borrow it. Dmasy, there is a pic of it...
Bitchy Pants said... 126 Mmmm, this pool is nice. So relaxing to just lie back and be waited on hand and foot by the pool boys. Is it too early for pina coladas? I'm looking forward to our red carpet appearance tonight. Hope my new muumuu isn't out of place. It sure shows off the results of my "good bra"
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I am polishing my crocs. And cracking open a whole new box o wine.
Where's PJs Momma? I have a new necklace to wear with my muumuu.
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 141 Clo Bo @ChloeXiaobi46 34m @Kateplusmy8 I would like some of your help. I am going to be making 'Easy Chicken Enchiladas' am I supposed to cook the chicken before hand
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This has to be a joke. Someone is doing some chain-yanking here. Aren't they? --------------------------------
Don't know if they're doing some chain yanking or they lack reading comprehension skills. In the cookbook, the ingredients list for the enchiladas states the following:
"3 cups lightly grilled chicken breast (you can use leftover chicken from the previous night)"
I know a lot of the recipe instructions can be ambiguous, but what about "lightly grilled" is so hard to understand?
I think that people ask Kate questions like this just in the hope that they will get a response, and then they can brag "Yay! Kate Gosselin responded to my tweet!!"
lol!! Well, my sheeple sniffer isn't broken, and I haven't called you or Mel a sheeple. They do post here and while they may cause no harm most of the time, there have been situations where they tried to stir the pot, and then reported back to their flock that "we" all fell for it.
When you say of Winsome & me that "they tried to stir the pot, and then reported back to their flock", you're 100% wrong. I don't have twitter, and I don't post about TFW anywhere else.
You're saying that Winsome and I both post here. You're right. I do post here. But I don't try to stir the pot, IMO. And I try to never cause harm to anyone, including you.
When you say of Winsome & me that "they tried to stir the pot, and then reported back to their flock", you're 100% wrong. I don't have twitter, and I don't post about TFW anywhere else.
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That's not what I meant. The "they" is referring to the sheeple, not to you. That's my fault. It sounded like "they" meant you because "they" followed your names. I never called you or winsomeone a sheeple. I was talking about some of the non-fans who have, in the past, come here to stir the pot. It had nothing to do with you, and I'm sorry that I wasn't clear about it. I know that you aren't a sheeple, and neither is winsomeone and you're not pot-stirrers.
This Key West sun (and the Rum Runners) are getting to me!
Having a great time here in Key West. One of the pool boys offered to doggie-sit, so I can go to some of the activities later on!! I agree with whoever else said we should extend this trip for a few days.
Mel said... 156 lol!! Well, my sheeple sniffer isn't broken, and I haven't called you or Mel a sheeple. They do post here and while they may cause no harm most of the time, there have been situations where they tried to stir the pot, and then reported back to their flock that "we" all fell for it.
When you say of Winsome & me that "they tried to stir the pot, and then reported back to their flock", you're 100% wrong. ------------- I took the "they" to refer to the sheeple, not you and Mel. The poster specifically said that she has NOT called you or Mel a sheeple, then goes on to describe "them" (the sheeple).
Finally got to see the CT episode, Fired Up! Isn't that ironic that the name of that episode is named Fired Up? (Milo). Jon was fired up and he started and I was saying Go Jon Go, whistling and clapping. He did the most damage in there! My Lord, how could one woman inflict so much pain, anguish and emotional distress to one person and her kids her family her friends and have enough left for everyone she ever comes across. That strength can only be described as satanic.
FUFK = Jon's Fired Up For Kate, Kicking K's But and Taking Names!
Before he started, Farrah was shown and she moved her head over and Jon was leaning back against a door and his head was down. I felt so bad for him. But I really believe this did get out a tremendous amount of pent up anger and after he looked so relieved and the stress was just about gone on his face. To me, he reminds me of someone who is suffering from PTSD, IMHO.
I was tearing up for Jon and Kelsey also when she was in the rage room. Just wished they hadn't of used real food.
I would have loved, loved, loved it if Jon when he was pounding things with the sledge hammer if he would of said when he hit:
The dinner plates: kate stop feeding the kids on plastic prison plates!
The dining room chairs: When he was beating that chair against the French doors, scream: You forced the kids to sit in high chairs till they were 7 years old!
The glasses on the table: You made them drink out of sippy cups till they were ____.
The television: You make them watch themselves contantly on DVD of the old shows when they are little! Loved when he bashed that tv screen!
How would you defend that kate? Say it is not true? Sorry, it is all Documented proof on the DVD's, show after show. Bibs, sippy cups, high chairs. All in the name to keep the show going and manipulating peoples minds that the kids are still babies. My grandson is 10 months old today. He looks twice as old in size. Not fat, but big boned and tall. He was sitting in a booster seat with sides at the family dining room table in a regular chair for the past 2 months.
I don't see how the judge in family court that Jon has to deal with can sleep at night. Also the judge in the case of giving custody? back to the wife who hired a hit man to kill her husband, her child's father? If she would do that to him, that child is in danger. Incredible.
At the end, Jon gave Liz a jewelry box that looks like a ring box. Maybe instead of a ring, it is earrings, or a half a heart for each of them.
Also, didn't someone say that Jon and Liz didn't stay for the wrap party for CT? so he could get home to be with his kids. I am sure Liz missed her kids too. Would TCFW miss a wrap party to jet home to be with her kids? Hades to the NO!
The dining room chairs: When he was beating that chair against the French doors, scream: You forced the kids to sit in high chairs till they were 7 years old!
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Are you sure that they were in high chairs until they were seven? Is this seen on a DVD episode? Which one? I thought they were using the wooden chairs that pulled up to the table until they were about five, but not seven. They weren't the actual high chairs with the trays that are made for toddlers, but rather just "high" chairs.
Of course, I could be wrong. Does anyone have the clip of them still using the high chairs at age seven?
Joy, thanks so much for arranging this lovely getaway. Last night I snuck into Ernest Hemingway's bedroom closet and hid there until they closed the house. Everyone should spend a night in Mr. Hemingway's bed with one of the cats. It's purrrfectly charming.
Off to catch some rays, then over to Captain Tony's to knock back a few.
Ex Nurse - I'm sorry you are feeling frustrated at a time that should be completely full of joy. I am not a grandmom, but I will offer my perspective anyway, speaking from the vivid memories of how I felt when I became a mommy for the first time.
If your DIL is like most young women who have a good relationship with their mother, she probably really needs her mom right now to help calm and steady her. She needs her mom to help get her through the newness and, at times, overwhelming angst at suddenly becoming responsible for the welfare of a tiny new life.
This is not to say that a son doesn't need his mother at this time, but it is a very different need. A daughter has just experienced the same thing her mother did when she had children, and that creates a very special bond.
It is great that your son confides in you, but ultimately, the decisions he and his wife make need to be based on what they feel is best for their family. Trust them to get it right for themselves unless and until you see things going really badly. And if he tells you he is uncomfortable with decisions being made, encourage him to work to communicate that to his wife.
Sometimes your feelings will be hurt or you will be concerned that the in-laws are overstepping. Try to remember how wonderful it is that your grandson has two parents and two sets of grandparents who are ready to heap tons of love upon him. Focus your positive energy on appreciating every moment you get to spend with him, instead of focusing on the moments you don't.
You will navigate these waters fine. Best wishes to you and your precious grandson!
"3 cups lightly grilled chicken breast (you can use leftover chicken from the previous night)"
I know a lot of the recipe instructions can be ambiguous, but what about "lightly grilled" is so hard to understand?
I think that people ask Kate questions like this just in the hope that they will get a response, and then they can brag "Yay! Kate Gosselin responded to my tweet!!"
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Maybe they've never grilled a chicken and therefore don't know that grilling means that the chicken is "cooked" -- as opposed to raw!
Not banging my head anymore. I've banged as much as I want to bang.
Speaking of which, I was watching The Graduate last night when I couldn't sleep. I laughed at the scene where Ben put his hand on Mrs. Robinson's breast and went to the wall and banged his head. I was thinking about how some of us just want to do this (bang our heads, not feel up Mrs. Robinson) because of the dumb things that sheeple come up with.
Auntie Ann, I am heading to Drag Queen Bingo at five, then about six head over to the Hemingway house. It's virtually reserved for us the entire night! Since the forecast is for snow ice cold in Virginia, I am staying in Key West for a few more days! In my virtual reality anyway!
"3 cups lightly grilled chicken breast (you can use leftover chicken from the previous night)"
You know, I can see asking what appears to be a stupid question after reading this. Lightly grilled? That can be read as half-cooked IMO, or in Kate's case, half-assed cooked. Of course I know better, but what exactly is lightly grilled.? You either cook it or you don't cook it. Lightly is a word that could mean not exactly cooked. Who writes recipes like this?
Joy - Drag Queen Bingo sounds... interesting. What exactly is that? lol!
Midnight - I watched the Graduate last night too. (Hemingway House has cable)
I always like going to IMDB to find out more about a movie, even though I've seen TG a hundred times I've never read this about that scene:
"In Dustin Hoffman and Anne Bancroft's first encounter in the hotel room, Bancroft did not know that Hoffman was going to grab her breast. Hoffman decided offscreen to do it, because it reminded him of schoolboys trying to nonchalantly grab girls' breasts in the hall by pretending to put their jackets on. When Hoffman did it onscreen, director Mike Nichols began laughing loudly offscreen. Hoffman began to laugh as well, so rather than stop the scene, he turned away from the camera and walked to the wall. Hoffman banged his head on the wall, trying to stop laughing, and Nichols thought it was so funny, he left it in. "
Call Me Crazy said... 164 ''.....She needs her mom to help get her through the newness and, at times, overwhelming angst at suddenly becoming responsible for the welfare of a tiny new life.
This is not to say that a son doesn't need his mother at this time, but it is a very different need. A daughter has just experienced the same thing her mother did when she had children, and that creates a very special bond.''
''......Focus your positive energy on appreciating every moment you get to spend with him, instead of focusing on the moments you don't.'' ~~~~~~~~~~~ Ex Nurse, I am not only a Grandmother, but also a Great-Grandmother, and Call Me Crazy has given you great insight and very good advice. I came here to say the same thing, but see that CMC has expressed my thoughts so well, that I will only emphasize this: ''Focus your positive energy on appreciating every moment you get to spend with him, instead of focusing on the moments you don't.''
Being a Grand/Great-Grandmother has been the greatest joy of my life, even though some of the times the children were on the opposite coast from me. My girls put the phone to the infants ear so I could talk to them. By the time I finally saw my 8 month old grand-child, she was clinging to her other grandmother because my face was a stranger to her. When I started talking to her, she broke into the biggest gummy smile and held out her arms to me, because she knew my voice! I still vividly remember the way my heart was filled w/joy that she knew who I was! To waste even a second thinking about what you don't have is a wasted second of joy and love for that precious baby!
Bless you Greedy Gosselins for taking the time to make me feel 'normal', and though I am not happy that you went thru this, am happy to hear your words of wisdom. It's like you know me so well with what is going on with me. Thanks for taking the time:) And are you saying you live in the same province as me? Would love to know where you live, but understand if you want to keep that info off of here. I have no problem saying where I live, I live near Fairy Glen. It would be a surprise to find out we lived very close to each other! Thanks again for being so kind to me:)
Auntie Ann, I am heading to Drag Queen Bingo at five, then about six head over to the Hemingway house. It's virtually reserved for us the entire night! Since the forecast is for snow ice cold in Virginia, I am staying in Key West for a few more days! In my virtual reality anyway!
Have you ever seen a drag queen in person? Once while at The Cleveland Clinic, I saw a man who seemed to be halfway converted to a woman. Everyone in the waiting room was staring at him, and snickering behind their hands. I felt so sorry for him, and embarrassed that people don't always behave as they should.
If your DIL is like most young women who have a good relationship with their mother, she probably really needs her mom right now to help calm and steady her. She needs her mom to help get her through the newness and, at times, overwhelming angst at suddenly becoming responsible for the welfare of a tiny new life.
This is not to say that a son doesn't need his mother at this time, but it is a very different need. A daughter has just experienced the same thing her mother did when she had children, and that creates a very special bond.
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Absolutely. I was going to say the same thing, only you said it so much better. It's an entirely different relationship that a daughter, who has just given birth, has with her mother. It's a bonding kind of experience, when even though the daughter is an adult, there are times when she still may feel that she needs the love (and wisdom) of her "mommy." Giving birth is one of those times.
Have you ever seen a drag queen in person? Once while at The Cleveland Clinic, I saw a man who seemed to be halfway converted to a woman.
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I have never seen a drag queen in person, however I've seen them on tv and in movies. Some of them are knock dead gorgeous and certainly know more about applying makeup than some women.
OrangeCrusher1 said... 167 "3 cups lightly grilled chicken breast (you can use leftover chicken from the previous night)"
You know, I can see asking what appears to be a stupid question after reading this. Lightly grilled? That can be read as half-cooked IMO, or in Kate's case, half-assed cooked. Of course I know better, but what exactly is lightly grilled.? **** I, too, have to say that "lightly grilled' to the uninitiated could mean serving undercooked chicken. You grill chicken. To alter grilled to lightly grilled should have been caught be an editor. More stupidity in Kate's amateur hour cookbook.
Winsomeness.... Thanks for your perspective. My mother helped a lot after my 3rd was born, and it was a lifesaver for me as well. This is a different situation. Her parents expect them to spend every weekend and holiday with them. They live in the area, but usually spend the night when they visit. Yes, we have all spent time together with the baby. We are different religions, so Thanksgiving is the only holiday in common, and we do usually get together with both families.
Even before the baby was born, my husband was becoming resentful of how much time they expect to see them, to the point of accompanying them on their vacations and befriending their friends. Our side of the family is negotiating a difficult transition because of our separation. Their parents are incredible gossips--it seems to be their major activity. I know every private detail of everyone's problems and tragedies. So, I am not comfortable around them because it is a sure thing that they will be dissecting everything they see, and talking to everyone else about it. I have spoken to my DIL about this, because, I was unsure whether she could be trusted to keep it out of her family's routine gossipfest. She has said that she understands, and I do trust that she does and will honor my request that she not discuss us with her family.
As an example, we have a summer trip for a family wedding in August. Her mother has dropped very strong hints about coming along to take care of the baby during the wedding. This is he MO--starts bringing it up, and then includes herself.
Her mother and I were both at the delivery and it was an extremely moving and bonding experience, it isn't that I mind seeing them, I just don't want to see them every single time I see the baby. The newborn days really fly by fast, and we all don't want to miss any of it. If it was just my issue, I wouldn't bother with it at all. But, it is hard to see my son beginning to simmer over, and then shove his feelings down because he is trying to support his wife in these kinds of decisions. I hope that they can navigate through this and come out stronger--we probably all will. My husband is pretty erratic, so I have more than enough to navigate when just our side of the family is together.
When the baby came home, we scheduled different nights for each side to come over. Sure enough, on our night, her mother showed up, too. So, I don't think I am imagining it. To quote Seinfeld--she is double dipping!
Jeremy said... Their family has to come first. That means meeting their needs. Together they need to have honest conversations with her parents. While they are forever grateful, and love them, they need to ask them to step back so they can begin to form their own family without interference. The conversations should come from the heart, with love and respect, not anger or resentment. This is a passing transition, family is forever. Your son and DIL need to stand up for their new family. -------- Great advice, Jeremy! You put into words what I have been trying to express.
LMG--I don't think you got it wrong at all, and your words make perfect sense to me---must be speaking in granny code!
I envy all of you in Key West! Enjoy those glorious sunsets and the fresh shrimp! I'm in Florida for a few more days but sadly not near the Keys. Hasn't the weather been spectacular? After the ridiculous amount of snow we've had in the NE, to be able to go outside without a coat is a treat.
Up thread someone mentioned a body part getting caught in a pool filter? Well....I was in the hotel pool the other day and leaned back against the wall and BAM! The filter was so strong it felt like a vise grabbing my lower back. There were no warnings and it blended in with the pool. I yelled, it really hurt, but was able to pull myself away but was left with a nice black and blue bruise and an achy left side. Good thing my bikini days are over! Anyway, beware of pool filters in Key West and elsewhere!
All in all, I think my son and DIL are adjusting well. They have no problem telling me what they do or do not want. However, I generally respect a boundary--her parents tend to ignore, or come up with some other reason to be there, Her parents were originally planning to stay for the entire first week, and they ended up leaving after one night. So, some kind of conversation happened, because they were clearly not happy when they left.
I was trying to find an episode of them older sitting in those chairs, and I came across the trailer for the Emeril cooking for the G's for the 100th episode. Wow. They show Emeril and said, Emeril is here and then they show Emeril, to the left, TCWSWFW in the middle, Jon to the right.
Jon was holding a big bowl and scraping it into a big dish. (Why didn't TCWSWFW hold the bowl, instead of hitting Emeril!) Emeril's arm was on the counter, and TCWSWFW slapped the DOG MESS HECK out of Emeril's arm, his head flinched back. It didn't show, but on the episode she hit him twice and then he started rubbing his arm and he was in pain and he just looked at her, trying to fathom what he did to deserve that.
TCWSWFW = The Crazy Wooden Spoon Wielding Former Wife
IIRC, didn't we talk about the kids being seven years old when she got the regular dining room chairs? I wish I would of just put, You made them sit in those high chairs way, way too long, for years!
I went to a drag show by mistake. My friend got us tickets for The Great Pretenders which we thought was a mystery play, which we enjoyed. We were about 18 or 19 then. The drag show 'girls' were indeed beautiful, but we were so scared we would called up for audience participation.I never trusted my friend to by tickets to shows for us again!
Sorry to be commenting so much--I am answering as I see them. Call me crazy, I understand completely the special bond between a mother and daughter--I have 2 daughters. That is why all of our visits have followed her side of the family. Going forward, maybe this will be a non-issue--I hope that is the case. I do think that they are speaking up to her parents that they need some privacy, and, hopefully, her parents will get that, too. I know that I am more sensitive right now, due to what is happening in my family. I have encouraged my son to support his wife throughout the pregnancy. My DIL has said that she never knows how my son is feeling about things-he doesn't put forward his feelings and thoughts. So, she just makes most of the decisions. I don't want them to look back at this time and see the beginnings of what have become full-blown problems. It is their job to figure that all out. I am only talking to them about it because they have brought the issue up to me in the first place.
Remona--thanks for weighing in. Great-grandma is impressive?
Knock! Knock! Here I am for the Oscar party! I brought Caviar! Yes, a big bowl of Texas Caviar! lol Please bartender, a sloe gin fizz, and some toast points and a wooden spoon! I brought extra organic sunscreen, sunglasses and Journey CD's. Love Steve Perry!
I thought of that last night and right after I thought of it, Frasier came on and at the very beginning before it was even mentioned, I wondered oh the Caviar episode.
Can you believe it was the Caviar episode? This one is every funny. Oh my gosh. When I was typing about Frasier, a man that plays one of the people who has a radio show, Gil Chesterton was on Law and Order, SVU that I was watching. USA is having a marathon of Guest Who Did It. It has been pretty good.
My DIL has said that she never knows how my son is feeling about things-he doesn't put forward his feelings and thoughts. So, she just makes most of the decisions. I don't want them to look back at this time and see the beginnings of what have become full-blown problems.
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I don't understand why you would be upset because her parents are spending so much time there, and with the baby. There are parents who have no relationship with their children and often don't even bother with their grandchildren. I would think that this child will have the best of both worlds -- grandparents on both sides who will love and cherish him. If it were my son, I'd be ecstatic that her parents cared so much about their new grandchild that they'd want to be in this baby's life.
Her parents were originally planning to stay for the entire first week, and they ended up leaving after one night. So, some kind of conversation happened, because they were clearly not happy when they left.
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You posted that they practically moved in. I'm really confused (nothing new there!)...
On 2/28/12 Kate wrote "Just a few months ago, I called them and ordered an additional five chairs …..and we passed our wooden high chairs/ booster chairs to another group of six who can use them! :) It was time! We’re all grown up now! :) Now we enjoy dinner together as a big family – all seated in “big people” chairs! Ahh life is good!" That does make them 7.5 http://www.kateplusmy8.com/ask-kate-feb2012/
Dmasy, yes, I am enjoying Florida and feel blessed to be away from the cold and snow and ice for a week. It's been a horrible winter on so many levels for my family so this brief respite is quite welcome!
Ex-Nurse...I wanted to echo the sentiments of the others who have posted. Enjoy this time; it passes quickly. I liked someone's idea of enjoy the time you *do* have, and try to ignore the time don't have.
I am sooo jealous that you get to babysit one day a week! So many of us are not granted that! (I still work full-time.) And you got to be present for the birth! How awesome!
Our DIL didn't even tell us when she was in labor. We happened to be visiting that evening, and were wondering why she seemed to be staying in the bedroom. Didn't even hit my radar that she was in labor as this is something she does when she's miffed at our son, or miffed about anything actually. She's easily miffed.
You'd think that would be something that would be exciting to share. It's not like we were going to follow her to the hospital or anything. But it was ok for her to have called her parents; they *needed* to know. Why they needed to know and we didn't is beyond me.
They got to see the baby within an hour of him being born, and we were told that the DIL was now 'too tired' to have any other company. Maybe we could see the baby in a day or two. Hard to get past that one. It still hurts to think about it.
I know what you mean about honoring boundaries. Some of us have enough sense to know what proper boundaries are and honor them without being told. And we certainly honor anything that's brought up.
It's so frustrating to watch other people just ignore the boundaries and blithely tromp through life.
I would be very annoyed about the family wedding. There's no reason for her mother to invite herself to that. You'll be there to help with the baby, as well as your daughters, and your son. Talk about not respecting boundaries. Sigh.
On 2/28/12 Kate wrote "Just a few months ago, I called them and ordered an additional five chairs …..and we passed our wooden high chairs/ booster chairs to another group of six who can use them! :) It was time! We’re all grown up now! :) Now we enjoy dinner together as a big family – all seated in “big people” chairs! Ahh life is good!" That does make them 7.5 http://www.kateplusmy8.com/ask-kate-feb2012/
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I think, though, that when people read that the kids were in "high chairs" until such and such an age, they think of the high chairs that are used for infants and toddlers, the ones with the vinyl seats and sliding trays. If I recall, the chairs that the kids had were the ones that are used in restaurants. They were like regular chairs, used right at the table (no trays) but were just higher than your standard chairs.
Still, no reason to be in them until they were that old, unless the kids were unusually short and it worked for them. Nothing worse than putting a child in a regular chair before he's ready and him at eye level with the table!
Anecdotes about Ernest Hemingway, while we are waiting for the Oscar action, and enjoying our delectable nibbles and fancy drinks! Everyone looks so nice in their fancy dressy crocs! Ernest Hemingway liked to go to a bar down Duval St called Sloppy Joe's. One night he came in and the owner and patrons were taking chairs, tables, everything out! The bar owner said his landlord who owned the building was going up on the rent! So the bar was moving, semi secretly. According to our personal tote guide, Ernest then said that he had ” pissed away enough money there to buy the bar. At which point the bar owner said he was right, and he should take a urinal home! Yes, Ernest dragged a urinal of the wall and dragged it down the street home. His wife Pauline was horrified, but he refused to get rid of it. So Pauline laid the urinal on it's side, had tile laid around it, put a big urn on top, and had a pipe run to it, to make it a fountain in the garden. If you haven't already done it, walk to the garden out back and take a look! It's a functional drinking pond for the cats.
They got to see the baby within an hour of him being born, and we were told that the DIL was now 'too tired' to have any other company. Maybe we could see the baby in a day or two.
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If a newborn is in the hospital nursery, and as the baby's grandparents, you have a pass into the maternity department, can't you see the baby? Why would a relative have to wait a day or so to see a baby?
If I remember Kate was getting a lot of flak on twitter for having the kids still in high chairs. They were the kind of wooden highchairs that most restaurant have. They are the same, just no tray and the child sits in them like any other high chair. I remember seeing the kids pushing them against a wall and stacking them three high.
Ex-Nurse- I was thinking about the other parents staying at the house that first week.
For myself, I wouldn't want anyone staying at the house. I paid for the out of town grandparents to stay at a hotel. I wanted time to bond with the baby, and just be the three of us most of the time. I didn't mind people coming for a short while to admire the baby, but I didn't want them to stay long.
The conversations should come from the heart, with love and respect, not anger or resentment. <----- I really like this.
Do encourage your son to speak to his wife (with love and respect) about what he needs. It's his child, too; it's not only his wife's needs that are important. They need to decide together how they want things and come to some kind of agreement about it. They need to set the tone about what they want right from the beginning.
We've all seen here what happens when one partner stuffs their feelings. Nothing good comes of it.
I think it's hard sometimes to figure out something equitable as far as time with the baby. It's hard when one set of grandparents is granted unlimited access and the other set is more regulated. And harder yet when there is a divorce on one or more sides. Hard to accommodate everyone's desires to have time with the baby, and still have bonding time for the new nuclear family.
I'm happy that you'll have the one day a week. What a lovely gift of time for you and the baby.
Ex-nurse....try to ignore a lot of the pushiness with the other grandparents. It will all work out as time goes by. When we were small we had one grandmother that would give us each a dollar and the other one gave us cookies. Guess who the favorite was!
Savor the moment. That will last for a very long time.
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I arrived at the pool. Discovered that another lady has the same bathing suit as mine!
Lovely day.
chef...hope your surgery went well.
Joy...When shopping/bar crawl are in the same sentence, count me in. It's interesting to see what you shopped for after a few bar crawls. However, snorkeling sounds like fun as well. Such decisions.
My toes are in the sand. I have an umbrella drink in my hand. I encourage all friends suffering in the cold North to come on down.
Joy has organized a fine get-together!
Dmasy I'll join you poolside as soon as I slip back to my room and change. Always bring an extra suit ;)
Please order me something fruity with an umbrella.
Rhymes with Witch said... 191
How would she deal if she tried to go for help to a real estate agent, or attorney, or PR firm and they said they did not want to represent her because they have different morals? 178
Jan Brewer (gov AZ) just vetoed a bill that would legally discriminate against gays and others. I don't care what her personal beliefs are. IMO she did the right thing. Additionally, it could have expanded as did the laws in Nazi Germany - again, IMO.
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I agree with you, Rhymes. The purpose of the bill was to allow business owners the right not to serve gay and lesbians under the guise that is violatedtheir religious beliefs. I think the author/authors of the bill truly (blindly?) believed this would take care of the issue of caterers, florists and bakers who didn't want to be involved with gay weddings and that would be the end of it.
What this bill could have done is allow individuals of all religions to refuse service to anyone who did not share their beliefs. I wonder how the author of the bill would have felt if she went to a small shop owned by Buddists or Muslims to buy some spices and she was told they didn't serve Christians? She would likely be outraged, as her bill was only meant to discriminate against gays and lesbians, not rightgeous members of the "correct" religion like herself.
I appreciated Gov. Brewer's remarks that the bill addresses an issue that was not even remotely a problem in AZ. I know for my own state, I feel like I can't open the paper without reading about a boyfriend abusing, shaking or killing the baby or toddler of his girlfriend. These stories break my heart in two and this is where legislation or intervention needs to be, not fussing over making a wedding cake for a gay couple.
Joy said,
"Just check with the pool boys, anyone at the hotel, for info or directions. relax at the pool, or take a left leaving theed hotel and in half a block you will be at Duval Street! it's never too early to start a bar crawl!"
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I'm just going to hang with the pool boys. Are they wearing thongs? Later I'll head down to Mallory Square for some key lime pie. My weakness. That, and the pool boys!
Thanks guys I'm doing well my strabismus surgery on took 30 mins my doc tor was amazing and so were the nurse .
I waited years for this surgery to be done went through so much lost records a bad surgery center who kept putting me off.
But I found the doctor who did my first eye surgery when I was three years old and now i'm 26 and he even remember me and has my records.
So he did me again my surgery again. We're both happy with the results.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 13h
Friday night movie night: The Shirley Temple Story and single serve Ben and Jerry's frozen yogurt! #FunFamilyTime
What 10-year-old boys are interested in spending Friday night at home with their sisters watching a movie about Shirley Temple?
Isn't this rather odd, or is it just me?
My toes are in the sand. I have an umbrella drink in my hand. I encourage all friends suffering in the cold North to come on down.
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"Off the Florida Keys, there's a place called Kokomo, that's where you wanna go to get away from it all. Bodies in the sand, tropical drink melting in your hand, we'll be falling in love to the rhythm of a steel drum band..."
I wish.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 13h
Friday night movie night: The Shirley Temple Story and single serve Ben and Jerry's frozen yogurt! #FunFamilyTime
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Guess they got tired of homemade pizza.
Chefsummer....most excellent news!!
The Uggs lady tweeted Kate. Who is this Sherrod Small person with whom she is so enamored? I never heard of him. Am I so far out of the loop? :/)
I arrived at the pool. Discovered that another lady has the same bathing suit as mine!
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No worries, as long as the pool boys gravitate to you and not to her!
Joy -- enjoying the trip and the travelogue. If anyone wants to read a good book with some history about the Dry Tortugas (and a cracking good mystery to boot) I highly recommend Nevada Barr's "Flashback". Most of Barr's books are very good, for that matter. They're set in different National Parks across the country (her protagonist, Anna Pigeon, is a park ranger). I'm enjoying relief from the seemingly eternal snow/cold we've had this winter.
Just reading about Jon's anger/breakdown on CT is heartbreaking. I suspect that one reason he's stuffed the anger down for so long, aside from the fact that he seems to be a pretty laid back and easy-going person most of the time, is that he knew it would give TFMJG satisfaction in knowing she'd provoked an outburst from him. Then she would just escalate her behavior. He may also have been afraid that she'd take it out on the kids.
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Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 13h
Friday night movie night: The Shirley Temple Story and single serve Ben and Jerry's frozen yogurt! #FunFamilyTime
What 10-year-old boys are interested in spending Friday night at home with their sisters watching a movie about Shirley Temple?
Isn't this rather odd, or is it just me?
It is not you, it's pretty odd, and speaks to the kids' having no say in how they spend their evening. 8 kids who always of everything together, 3 boys who only seem to participate in 'girly' things, Legos aside. Once the teeny fro-yo cups were finished, the boredom factor had to settle in
quickly. Shirley Temple, to counter the ex's messy profanity this week. She's a tool, and a simple tool at that.
Great to hear your surgery was successful Chef!
Are you joining us in Key West today?
We're almost there. Bernie and I stopped last night to throw rotten eggs at SeaWorld in Orlando. I'm exhausted. Security guards ran faster than we did but Bernie fought them off and saved the kegs!
Can't wait to jump into the beautiful emerald waters!
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Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 13h
Friday night movie night: The Shirley Temple Story and single serve Ben and Jerry's frozen yogurt! #FunFamilyTime
What 10-year-old boys are interested in spending Friday night at home with their sisters watching a movie about Shirley Temple?
Isn't this rather odd, or is it just me?
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Lol, well that's Kate for ya. Her 'normal' is what 99% of the population would consider odd. This is, after all, a woman who thought a several hour interrogation about a piece of peeled paper from a $15 Target globe was reasonable and justified.
I highly doubt even the girls wanted to see a biopic about a 1930s child star. That was surely Kate's choice. I agree with others who said she wanted to show them that even 81 years ago, kids were in the entertainment business supporting their familes.
Shirley Temple???....Kate can't get her "visions of the six going to Hollywood", even if it costs them the rest of their childhood. IMO
God she is pathetic. This women knows no shame.
(Sorry I don't have time to read all comments, usually I have limited time here)
Some of the comments said that CT was a safe place. Call me crazy, but, for me, one of the requirements for me to feel safe is privacy. I don't dispute the value of the process--I think that Jon has made a lot of progress. I guess that I don't think that the end justifies the means. I have always said that biggest mistake, and the most damaging one as well, was the decision to put the kids on camera. It hardly matters what happened after that--those kids were robbed of their childhoods because their privacy was taken away. Many children deal with divorce and parental alienators. It is the public treatment that is unique and damaging. So, I just can't see how Jon's participation will benefit his children to the degree it will offset the damage.
Doing PRIVATE individual therapy to deal with his trauma, and developing strategies to deal with TFMJG, is where, IMO, his focus should be. Clearly, he has a long way to go in terms of his personal relationship issues. Maybe Liz and he can make a go of it, but, from what we have seen, there is still a lot of work to do in the relationship area. Is this relationship really in the best interest of his children? Unless the answer is an absolute YES, he should be focussing his energy on his children, not his love life. It is even more critical because of TFW's mental illness.
That is JMO, of course. This is all my speculation, but, given his neediness, it seems likely that, like his own children, he did not have the kind of childhood that met his needs appropriately. Pretty common in a home in which there is alcoholism. The result is the inability to have supportive, healthy adult relationships, in which there is a give and take and a balance of power.
I wish Jon well, and genuinely hope that he will emerge from the CT with some insight and skills.
Chefsummer, I hope your surgery went well!
Mel, thanks for the kind words...much appreciated.
I won't be making the long trip to FL--don't want to leave my grandson yet!
Pants 14, I love Nevada Barr's books. Also Dana Stabenow, who sets her books in Alaska.
Enjoying being warm at last. Thanks Joy.
It's all utterly discouraging, and that's just from my perspective as a former watcher of the J&K show, what I could stomach of K8, reading here, and media coverage.
Just that amount of invested energy drives me crazy! I can well understand Jon's plight. But maybe it's too little, too late. She's always had the media backing her. She is an extremely skilled manipulator...a most evil one, but only a few have the ability to see that. WHY, is the mystery. From day one, I saw her for what she was. I just wanted Jon to react, point things out, infront of cameras.
I've never seen CT, just blurbs here and there. She had meltdowns for years, and received nary a criticism. Seemingly, he's unleashed his frustrations..and as usual, is the one being blamed.
The media must consist of and cater to, the lowest common denominator.
Shirley Temple, to counter the ex's messy profanity this week. She's a tool, and a simple tool at that.
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She's laying it on pretty thick. I'm sure tonight they'll be watching Song of Bernadette.
Jockey Bra is doing a paid programming on reinventing the bra. Kate should have cashed in on that...making sure that "your boobs are in the right place." She could be making millions right now...
chefsummer said... 65
So let's list what's fake about Kate.
1. Her hair.
2. Her boobs.
3. Her teeth.
4. Her personality.
5 Marriage to Jon-(probably loving Jon)
What is real about this woman?
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Her mental illness?
Hey, there's nothing wrong with anything you listed, but when you act like you've done no work on yourself when it glaringly obvious, it's a sickness.
Kate quips about having "blonde" moments, which is idiotic. She's a brunette who gets her lid bleached.
Hey, Kate, the chemicals don't actually seep into your brain and lower your IQ, and btw, you're an embarrassment to real blondes and women in general, for that matter.
chefsummer said... 68
I'm having eye surgery this AM wish me good lucky you guys.
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Good luck! I hope the surgery goes smoothly and that it helps you!
Report back!
She's laying it on pretty thick. I'm sure tonight they'll be watching Song of Bernadette.
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I like that movie! lol!!
Gotta fight my way through the grocery store lines. Everyone and his brother will be out there today before the the snow demon casts his wrath upon us once again.
If anyone wants to read a good book with some history about the Dry Tortugas (and a cracking good mystery to boot)
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DRY Tortugas? Does this mean we have to bring our own bottles?
Joy, do we have to wear the same swimsuit all weekend and use the same grungy towels? I brought my week -old play clothes with visible stains (mu-mu, straw bonnet, and crocs)
Enjoying the trip, the sights, and relaxing by the POOL.I'm not waterish but enjoying being burnt to a crisp with the pool boys fawning over me. Thanks once again for your hospitable hospitality.
Chefsummer, glad to hear your surgery went well!
My plane was late. Where are the thong-clad pool boys? *slips into sandals for chasing*
Did I miss my individual serving of froyo? And I was so excited about that. Darn.
I'll bring my homemade dillweed dip and a veggie platter. Maybe a loaf of Irish soda bread, too, since we're coming up on St. Patrick's Day.
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Since we're going to Key West, I'll make something citrus-y- my new LOVE, Lemon Pudding Cakes with Blueberry Compote.
Mel said... 89
I really felt bad for Liz at the end of the house trashing session when Jon was supposed to say to her what he wanted that he wasn't getting.
He said I want to be with someone. Then caught himself and said I want to be with you.
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It was very telling. Jon will keep trying to put a square into a round hole. Liz meets some important criteria, so he glosses over the bad stuff.
I'm betting Liz has a much softer side, but she needs to stop nurturing her nasty persona.
chefsummer: great news! 0-0 !
re: Shirley Temple night. Doubt they actually watched that ,and if so, bet the twins skedaddled.TFW is just creating her cozy family nights to enhance her image as the 'better parent.' Not many are fooled any longer.These kids must be so out of synch with their peers when discussing what they do/see on the weekends.
LisaNH said... 106
MabelD said... 99
Alec Baldwin wrote a book on parental alienation: "A Promise to Ourselves: A Journey Through Fatherhood and Divorce." In his own life and others’, Baldwin has seen the heavy toll that divorce can take---psychologically, emotionally, and financially. He has been extensively involved in divorce litigation, and he has witnessed the way that noncustodial parents, especially fathers, are often forced to abandon hopes of equitable rights when it comes to their children. He makes a powerful case for reexamining and changing the way divorce and child custody is decided in this country and levels a scathing attack at what he calls the “family law industry.”
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I'm not so sure Alec Baldwin should be writing books like this.
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Pot or kettle, Alec?
Now he's threatening to leave NYC because his precious little, fart-free celebrity bubble was burst, so he's threatening to pick up his ball and go home to L.A.
Don't hold your breath, Big Apple. Baldwin promised to leave THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA when Bush II was re-elected.
Were we only so lucky...
I suppose we should be grateful when we wake up and it's a sunny two degrees. It's -37° right now in Orr, MN.
I can't imagine what that must be like.
Over In TFW's County said... 27
DRY Tortugas? Does this mean we have to bring our own bottles?
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Olives, too?
Tuck's mom and ex-nurse my surery went better than expected.
Feeling and loopy lol.
JoyinVirginia said... 120
The password to get into the virtual party is Rule Number Three!
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You got it, Leroy Jethro!
Beyond disugted...24
Of course thier's nothing wrong with kk changing her apperance. It's just that kate is sooooo fake it hurts every1 around her.
Jon was hurt so badly with kk's fakness and need for perfection. I don't want to think what the poor kids are Torger ng through.
sparkle said... 134
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack · 41m
@MKSandAssocInc U seem polite, respectful & often answer w/class. Why N the world do U represent him? Totally a puzzle? All abt $$?
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Says the moron who worships a woman who cavorts and galavants with a married man while her tits are on display and her toes are stuffed into hooker shoes when they're not being licked by a total stranger.
Ex Nurse said... 19
Doing PRIVATE individual therapy to deal with his trauma, and developing strategies to deal with TFMJG, is where, IMO, his focus should be. Clearly, he has a long way to go in terms of his personal relationship issues. Maybe Liz and he can make a go of it, but, from what we have seen, there is still a lot of work to do in the relationship area. Is this relationship really in the best interest of his children? Unless the answer is an absolute YES, he should be focussing his energy on his children, not his love life. It is even more critical because of TFW's mental illness.
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Yep. It's actually really scary to see the damage Jon is dealing with from his time with Kate. If she screws up a grown man in the ways we've seen, what kind of damage is being done to those kids? IMO he picked her, he had eight kids with her and 100% of his non-working time should be spent on those kids. I don't see how anyone with eight kids and a job has the time and energy to put into anything else. There just are not enough hours in the day. If it were me, a relationship would definitely wait another eight years until the kids are all grown. I personally wouldn't consider putting my dating life on hold for eight years to be a massive sacrifice that I wouldn't be willing to make for my kids. Especially after the bad choices he made immediately post-divorce.
But Jon and I are two very different creatures. Even though I've been married 20 years, I know I could function just fine on my own. Jon can't seem to function without a woman by his side.
Sorry if it sounds harsh, but as much as I'm rooting for Jon to save those kids, I haven't seen evidence on CT that he has it in him to do it. The more I see of Jon, the more I realize that despite his good heart, those kids are just screwed.
OT- I'm watching gymnastics on NBC and Mary Lou Retton's daughter is competing- I'm officially getting old!
Ack!
"In what did he get his penis stuck? :) Did they call the fire department?" (182)
Well... if you have to know, Sleepless, in the clip I watch, it was in a camping stove. (Go figure...) At first, I did wrote it in my post. But then, when I re-read it before publishing, I erased it: it sounded too stupid. But I did see it. In a "Stories form the ER" episode. And that's part of the reason why lately I'm always watching BBC's documentaries on YouTube. Last night: "Victorian Farm"... 12 episodes of pure delight.
These stories break my heart in two and this is where legislation or intervention needs to be, not fussing over making a wedding cake for a gay couple.
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I remember on Top Chef several years ago, a lesbian didn't want to participate in a challenge that was cateriing a hetero wedding!
I was like, are you serious? Try pulling that crap in the professional world.
What 10-year-old boys are interested in spending Friday night at home with their sisters watching a movie about Shirley Temple?
Isn't this rather odd, or is it just me?
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If this doesn't show a narc mother, I don't know what does.
It must suck having to do everything as a unit. How big is that house and how many tv's do they have?
For God's sake, Kate, let the boys and girls, or whatever mix, pick their own movies! No kid gives a poop about Shirley Temple...
Sorry, Ms. Black but it's true.
OK, can't take any more winter. I am here now. Changed bathing suit , crocs on. Looking for umbrella drink and pool boys. Dmasy, please order up for me.
Hey guys, watch out for that sun. Don't get too pink!!
This Canuck has actually been to the keys. Wonderful. Thanks for the trip. Off to bar hop soon.
That is JMO, of course. This is all my speculation, but, given his neediness, it seems likely that, like his own children, he did not have the kind of childhood that met his needs appropriately. Pretty common in a home in which there is alcoholism. The result is the inability to have supportive, healthy adult relationships, in which there is a give and take and a balance of power.
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I agree with this. I think Jon's issues and his passive style and need for love at any price might stem from his childhood.
Instead of being independent and confident, he was like a little, gullible kid when Kate got her claws in him.
He didn't stand a chance of not coming out of that really messed up and scarred.
I guess nobody told him that he should have entered the not-a-contest. He could have won a SIGNED cookbook.
http://www.upi.com/Entertainment_News/2014/03/01/Gary-Sinise-treats-wounded-veterans-to-Disneyland/9911393691459/
Long time lurker who is joining the trip. It is SO nice to be warm! My little dog insisted on coming, said he is tired of having to stick his butt in the snow to do his business. We are going to play and run in the sand.
Feeling and loopy lol.
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enjoy!!
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PA Dutch Mom said... 34
I suppose we should be grateful when we wake up and it's a sunny two degrees. It's -37° right now in Orr, MN.
I can't imagine what that must be like.
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Me too- just can't imagine.
We're might get a foot or more of snow on Monday. Dear lawdy!
We just got a puppy and he needs to go out very frequently as part of house training and a small bladder. It has NOT been fun to don and doff a coat and accoutrements all day!
At least my dear DH is the one who takes him out for his middle of the night pee ;-)
Hey, Kate...
"Here are eight verbal habits that immediately mark you as somebody who's either foolish or shifty:
4. Hiccups
This is when, uh...you insert a word or sound into a sentence when, like...you're pausing to think, um...exactly what you're going to say. I once heard a guy say "um" over 100 times in a five minute presentation. By the end, the audience was practically tearing their collective hair out in annoyance.
Fix: This one is easy. Simply eliminate the hiccup word and pause instead. When you simply pause in silence, rather than trying to fill the thinking space with the hiccup, you end up sounding wise and like you're choosing your words carefully. You may need to record yourself a few times to break the habit, though.
http://www.inc.com/geoffrey-james/8-conversational-habits-that-kill-credibility.html
I'm on my way. We had a slight delay. Santa let one of the elves drive and when Santa told him we were going to Key West, the elf thought he said "we're going to see Kanye West". Turns out the elf has a huge crush on Kim K. and we went speeding away to wherever they are.
Santa discovered the error and corrected the flight plan. We are now on the right path. Hope to see you all soon.
Considering the weather forecast for the northeast, I'm voting that we stay a few extra days. Is everyone in?
dogsandkids said... 48
Long time lurker who is joining the trip. It is SO nice to be warm! My little dog insisted on coming, said he is tired of having to stick his butt in the snow to do his business. We are going to play and run in the sand.
March 1, 2014 at 11:21 AM
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Welcome!
My dogs love the beach. I can't wait to take our little puppy to the OBX!
Kate follows People magazine on twitter. Last night, she retweeted on of their tweets:
Retweeted by Kate Gosselin
People magazine @peoplemag · 18h
RT @peoplepets: You can't make this up: A parrot helped solve the murder of its owner http://peoplem.ag/u568N
I know she has a parrot, but what an odd thing to retweet. But then I consider having the kids watch the Shirley Temple biopic an odd thing too. She never fails to amaze.
Rhymes -- I like Stabenow too. Have you read Sue Henry? She has 2 series -- both originate in Alaska. One features a senior who travels the country in her RV with her dachshund and the other features a musher who breeds and trains sled dogs. Good mysteries and interesting books.
Ugh stupd spell check on my tablet.
White Organza said... 42
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lol. We used to get patients on my general surgery unit with their 'members' stuck in a variety of items, including glass bottles, various cookware and things like vacuum attachments. Men are a whole different sex as someone once said! They sometimes need minor surgery.The worst was a guy who put his in a pool vent thing with suction and he lost most of it, pretty gruesome.
Just started reading this thread, and saw Ingrid's post at #52. We have suffered with very low temps and many dark days here in Saskatchewan, last night was -55* celsius. I have not left the house in 6 weeks now, have been so depressed and even suicidal at times. Live out in the country, so have not seen or spoken to a human this entire time. I have not even answered the phone this entire time, sending husband to bring groceries home for us. I have it really bad. Then last week, my mom-in-law(she is the best!), bought me a Yuma Lite, you wear it like a baseball cap, it mimics sunlight in it's light, either white light or red light, wear it for 30 minutes at a time, as soon as you wake up. So I have had 8 treatments using it, and have stopped feeling suicidal, only having short naps instead of sleeping 24/7, am feeling better with every use. I highly recommend this for any one who suffers from S.A.D, it is sure helping me!
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES Feb 28
@CJWhodunit @Fly_On_TheWall The work that @BullyVille does is extremely important to everyone. Protecting us from the dredges of society.
Looks like he's still their hero. Oy.
Well... if you have to know, Sleepless, in the clip I watch, it was in a camping stove.
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Was the stove turned on? Double entendre!
"Pot or kettle, Alec?
Now he's threatening to leave NYC because his precious little, fart-free celebrity bubble was burst, so he's threatening to pick up his ball and go home to L.A."
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I read this as "pack up his balls." Guess that works, too!
ohhh...Key West sounds like heaven right now....would love to come and visit. I can bring a fresh batch of Kale chips and a single serve B&J ice-cream to share. Better start digging out of this fresh new snow if I want to make it before this weekend is over.
Kinda funny though that the sheeple are all falling over Jon breaking things and cursing during the ANGERMANAGEMENT excersize....did they miss the other contestants who did exactly the same, I heard Taylor swear too....okay, Jon threw his weight in it, but I guess he had a lot of unexploded anger that had to get out!
And somewhere Kate is grinning her Chessire Cat smile...happy that Jon crashed and burned on public tv.....thanks to her!!!
Thanks to those who got me here safely on only two bottles of brandy. The flight crew didn't even mind when I mixed up a round of Alexanders for the passengers.
I feel great. I'll have it made in the shade if I can balance on Bernie to get poolside.
Mel said...Guess I'll be a little more judicious in what I post. :-)
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Mel - I don't think you need to change anything about your posts. They are always respectful and well thought out. You speak your mind and even when some of us may disagree with your opinion, you should not be attacked for voicing it.
chef - I'm very glad your surgery went well. Excellent news.
dogsandkids - Welcome!
Call Me Crazy said... 63
Mel said...Guess I'll be a little more judicious in what I post. :-)
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Mel - I don't think you need to change anything about your posts.
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I agree. The vast majority of us know that Mel's posts are honest and respectful, and that's what makes this blog cool.
PA Dutch Mom said... 60
Well... if you have to know, Sleepless, in the clip I watch, it was in a camping stove.
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Was the stove turned on? Double entendre!
"Pot or kettle, Alec?
Now he's threatening to leave NYC because his precious little, fart-free celebrity bubble was burst, so he's threatening to pick up his ball and go home to L.A."
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I read this as "pack up his balls." Guess that works, too!
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His set is big. HUGE.
prairiemary said... 58
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I'm so happy you're feeling better! SAD is real.
My fuse has definitely been shorter and I can not wait until the pool opens.
I need it bad after this winter, which doesn't hold a candle to yours!
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES Feb 28
@CJWhodunit @Fly_On_TheWall The work that @BullyVille does is extremely important to everyone. Protecting us from the dredges of society.
Unless she is clearing out a pond, she means dregs of society! LOL! Sheeple really have a way with words, don't they?
Beyond DIsgusted said... 59
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES Feb 28
@CJWhodunit @Fly_On_TheWall The work that @BullyVille does is extremely important to everyone. Protecting us from the dredges of society.
Looks like he's still their hero. Oy.
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Yay! Go, go, go vengeful vigilantes! Screw what the Lord says, YOU be the judge and jury and exact your justice!
Here's a link to the yumalite someone referenced above. Looks interesting!
http://www.yumalite.com/
Oh, wait...wait! How about THIS one?
CJWhodunit@CJWhodunit·3 hrs
@MY_2BCOLLIES @Shortnsaszy @BullyVille I would be in jail,my husband's life&career ruined,my kids in foster care.#ThankGodForTeamBullyville
A little bit overboard, no?
The worst was a guy who put his in a pool vent thing with suction and he lost most of it, pretty gruesome.
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Lost the suction? Did he have to purchase a new cleaning system? :)
Seriously, though...sheesh, imagine coming into the ER with various household items attached to your body. Don't give TLC any ideas, or this will be their next show. Nothing is off limits for them.
Pants 55
I've read one Sue Henry where the RV woman hoes to visit her friend in the southwest
Thanks for the reminder.
One more thing about Stabenow.
Kate Shugak is a GREAT character!
Hi everyone! So glad to see more folks joining our virtual Key West getaway! I just got back from Dry Tortugas, do you like my souvenir hat?
Yes, everyone MUST wear the same swimsuit while you are at the pool. Of course! Bonus points if you just pull shortts or a skirt over it, and pull a tee shirt over top, then your ensemble is complete. And no pesky underwear to wash, aren't we efficient!
Now let's get up and get ready to wall down to Mallory Square for the sunset celebration, there are lots of performance artists to see!
Ok, this is a great trip and all but VCU is playing the Saint Louis Billikens at six pm, it will be on ESPN2. So right after Mallory Square, I have to find a decent sports bar STAT!
Oh, dear Lord, Formely (57), ssshhhh... be quiet: I think you inadvertently just might have pitch an idea for a new TLC series: "Men with their thing stuck in things! This week: conditioner bottles!"
Formerly Duped said... 57
White Organza said... 42
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lol. We used to get patients on my general surgery unit with their 'members' stuck in a variety of items, including glass bottles, various cookware and things like vacuum attachments. Men are a whole different sex as someone once said! They sometimes need minor surgery.The worst was a guy who put his in a pool vent thing with suction and he lost most of it, pretty gruesome.
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That sucks, dude.
Whoops.
Beyond DIsgusted said... 51
Hey, Kate...
"Here are eight verbal habits that immediately mark you as somebody who's either foolish or shifty:
4. Hiccups
This is when, uh...you insert a word or sound into a sentence when, like...you're pausing to think, um...exactly what you're going to say. I once heard a guy say "um" over 100 times in a five minute presentation. By the end, the audience was practically tearing their collective hair out in annoyance.
Fix: This one is easy. Simply eliminate the hiccup word and pause instead. When you simply pause in silence, rather than trying to fill the thinking space with the hiccup, you end up sounding wise and like you're choosing your words carefully. You may need to record yourself a few times to break the habit, though.
http://www.inc.com/geoffrey-james/8-conversational-habits-that-kill-credibility.html
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I"m forwarding this to DH. His hiccup is "you know".
Saying, "no" in response to his rhetorical question hasn't worked so far.
Www.sunsetcelebration.org gives all the details about the performers appearing at Mallory Square today!
Hey, Joy- go UVA basketball!
We used to go to games there when we lived in Richmond. I told DH just today that we have to plan a trip to C'ville- maybe next football season.
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES Feb 28
@CJWhodunit @Fly_On_TheWall The work that @BullyVille does is extremely important to everyone. Protecting us from the dredges of society.
Unless she is clearing out a pond, she means dregs of society! LOL! Sheeple really have a way with words, don't they?
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Wait. Is this the one with the PhD?
University of Virginia just beat syracuse and has won the ACC regular season title in basketball!
Ok I'm happily at the bar watching basketball, y'all just check out whatever you want, I will catch up later! I will just ask folks on the street if they have seen a bunch of ladies in crocs and muumuus!
Tucker's Mom said... 64
Call Me Crazy said... 63
Mel said...Guess I'll be a little more judicious in what I post. :-)
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Mel - I don't think you need to change anything about your posts.
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I agree. The vast majority of us know that Mel's posts are honest and respectful, and that's what makes this blog cool.
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I'm on board with this group, Mel. I think your posts are fair and evenhanded. You often say what I'm thinking. I get your sediments, and frustrations...with both parents
Hey, Joy- Go UVA bball!
(sorry for double posting about UVA- my brain is fried!)
Protecting us from the dredges of society.
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I thought we already have something set up to protect us from "dredges" and such. I think it's called police, fire and paramedics.
Why on earth would she subject all of her 8 kids to the Shirley Temple movie? On a weekend night? She is such a control freak! Why can't those children go to their cousins house, go bowling, go to the new Lego movie?
Did she not get any tickets to the Lego movie by possibly grifting? Funny, she makes dang sure what name brand of frozen yogurt her #familyfun gang are eating. That is a grift. I hope Ben and Jerry don't fall for it.
I totally believe TCFW knew Jon was filming, what he was filming and she on purposely didn't answer texts and calls to make Jon explode on camera.
I hope Jon and Robert can each publish their books soon.
How would CJ be in jail if she didn't commit a crime? Admitting guilt there, better be careful.
We're watching The Armstrong Lie- thanks to any and all who recommended it!
Oops- @ 72 should have said RV woman GOES. Damn you autocorrect.
Sherry Baby said... 81
MARIE @MY_2BCOLLIES Feb 28
@CJWhodunit @Fly_On_TheWall The work that @BullyVille does is extremely important to everyone. Protecting us from the dredges of society.
Unless she is clearing out a pond, she means dregs of society! LOL! Sheeple really have a way with words, don't they?
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Wait. Is this the one with the PhD?
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She's the sheep who claimed she earned a Ph without the D.
I swear....stupid is too kind a word for some of these sheep.
Wait is this the one with the Ph.D.? 81
She does it one step better. She has a Pd without the D.
I think her sister has the D, IIRC.
A hiccup that infuriates me is when a person is being interviewed and the response starts with, "I mean...". They have not even answered anything yet so what the heqq are they clarifying? This happened a lot when the athletes were being interviewed in Sochi. Even some celebrities are doing this.
I hope Ben and Jerry don't fall for it. 87
Ben abs Jerry sold their company some years ago to a savvy CEO who understood their vision. Hopefully that is still the case.
Yet another oops. Ph without the D.
It's another starry warm night in Key West. I have made a bunch of new friends at Jack Flats bar! The bartender is so nice to keep the beer flowing! And I've taught everyone at the bar one of our cheers. ” you don't wanna go to war with the Rams! Don't start no stuff won't be no stuff! ”
3 minutes to go, ten point game.
Thanks, Tuckers Mom, always heard about SAD, but never even thought I had it, so many people must be suffering this winter, I am going to get a passport, so can be ready to spend time in a much warmer climate should this happen again next winter:) Mel, thanks for posting the yumalite site, people need to know this is available and that it really does work. I think it cost my mom-in-law around $100. Canadian, so it is pretty affordable to most people.
Glad things went well with your eye, Chef! Happy partying to all who are on the virtual trip!
"Truth Teller" seems a little confused (which isn't unusual):
Truth Teller @Truth_Teller201 1h
@poorbabi @Cato_Cat @Kateplusmy8 @DrJennBerman That destruction scene was A JOKE and proves #CouplesTherapy is made up drama!
Truth Teller @Truth_Teller201 9m
@Kateplusmy8 Re watched Jon's rage destroying the house while talking about ur marriage & am afraid 4 ur safety as he has a gun! Be careful!
Rage or made-up drama? You need to make up your mind TT. LOL
VCU WON! 56 to 67, they WON over Saint Louis! Yeah!
Who wants to find a bar with a drag show? Yippee!
Rhymes with Witch said... 95
Yet another oops. Ph without the D.
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I forgot about that! So they shared the degree, her sister took the D and she took the Ph? Shows true kindness among siblings!
Drag show at Aqua night club at nine pm! Let's go! Anyone not input drag shows, met you back at the pool later!
Truth Teller @Truth_Teller201 9m
@Kateplusmy8 Re watched Jon's rage destroying the house while talking about ur marriage & am afraid 4 ur safety as he has a gun! Be careful!
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my money says tfw responds to this
I haven't finished reading all of the comments yet, but had to respond to 2 that I did read.
Chef, so happy that all went well! Much love to you, hon.
Sparkle #17, love your assessment of why TFW chose Shirley Temple biopic; you stated it perfectly. See, kids, this is your JOB, to support mommy in the lifestyle I want to become accustomed to!
Somebody above mentioned that they thought Dr. Jenn and Farrah were starting to look like each other. True enough.
But I think they're both starting to look like the latest iteration of Octomom, especially Dr. Jenn.
Truth Teller @Truth_Teller201 9m
@Kateplusmy8 Re watched Jon's rage destroying the house while talking about ur marriage & am afraid 4 ur safety as he has a gun! Be careful!
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Kate has a bodyguard remember.....
LoveMyGrandsons said... 103
Chef, so happy that all went well! Much love to you, hon.
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Aw see this is why I love this blog and all of the people on it-(minus the sheep & drive-buys)- Thank u :-)
he should be focussing his energy on his children, not his love life. It is even more critical because of TFW's mental illness.
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Call me crazy, but, for me, one of the requirements for me to feel safe is privacy.
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Excellent post, Ex Nurse!
Speaking of excellent movies, DH and I just watched Mr. Nobody on Amazon instant video. It was absolutely fascinating. I've made a shortened link to it below.
http://tinyurl.com/krp7v77
Team kids 107....agree!
prairiemary, I live nearby. Depression is a bitch, especially when we've hardly had any sunlight.
I've been where you are. It's tough, for sure. May I make a suggestion? As easy as it is to just stay home under the covers (Yep, I've been there!), try to force yourself to go out. I know it's overwhelming even having a shower but it really helped me.
Not every day, of course, but try to do it every other day. Even if it's just going out to get milk. And hang in there! :)
The whole CJ thing was always confusing to me. I never had all the details. Strange that she would say BV saved her from jail. I would call a lawyer if faced with jail not BV. But what do I know?
Judy Doody! I just watched about 20 minutes of the Shirley Temple Story and I agree very few 10 year old boys would find it great Friday night fun.
I hope their Lego® stash was nearby.
Chefsummers--Glad to hear that everything went well!
LMG and other grannies out there: Any wisdom to share about dealing with other set of grandparents? They have practically moved in with my son, DIL and new baby. I want to let them have their private time to adjust together, but I feel like it is at the expense of my time with the baby (have I mentioned that he is an angel?) ! They have always been very involved in every aspect of dIL's life, and now my son's too. He has said he is resentful of their expectations and usurping of his time, but right now, he wants to support my DIL, and doesn't want to make waves. My son and DIL decided to have him circumcized in a traditional Jewish ceremony and receive a Jewish name. I think that they were very uneasy about this and probably felt somewhat threatened (they are not Jewish). I am hoping that this is just an adjustment period, and that they will back off before my son gets fed up. He is very easygoing, but he does store up his resentment. I'm glad that he is talking to me about it, but It is very touchy territory. Any feedback would be appreciated!
That biopic, which I did enjoy, really got into this idea that Shirley was a commodity and also was being "used" by the American people to feel better during the Depression. She knew that and shouldered that burden, which no child is ready for. Most people meant her no harm, but it still wasn't good for her. She was bought and sold like a thoroughbred, not a 7 year old child. She was treated like a pick me up in bad times, like a beer or a hug, not a person.
The thing is, the film doesn't spell out SHIRLEY WAS EXPLOITED AND IT WAS BAD. It just presents the facts, take it or leave it. Even Shirley herself, though she has hinted at some really horrific things, was always reluctant to go there. She gave us the facts and let US decide if we think she was exploited. She didn't spoon feed the idea to anyone. I think her entire LIFE she felt obligated to make people happy and did not want to burst everyone's bubble, and I get that.
I think if it's not spelled out in black and white for Kate, she doesn't get the greater point a film is trying to make. She doesn't see the obvious serious issues about her childhood. She just sees the tap dancing and cute little laughs. Meanwhile studio heads are sparring over a tiny child's contract worth millions.
I saw it's on Youtube! I may try to watch it all the way through again when I can.
Oh I've seen Shirley's lifetime achievement SAG award speech and it's so funny how even in her 70's she still maintained some of the unique mannerisms she has. She sort of moved her arms the same, and her facial expressions also mirrored the sort of things she did as a child. We really are who we are at a young age.
I also think most boys would be bored out of their minds watching that biopic, unless maybe it was a boy interested in tap or something. And really some girls would be bored too.
As I said before, Shirley did not age well. Even in the last couple decades it's really gone downhill, I think in large part because of political correctness. Some of her films have been swiffered from the airways, others hardly air anymore. Twenty years ago you could find her films on regular T.V. all the time. They're all but gone except on maybe a few obscure classics cable channels. Kids T.V. is so different from the things she did, I just don't think it's translating well. She had a great run and will be remembered with fondness, but like most child stars, it finally came to a firm end.
Bottom line I think Kate just looooves Shirley Temple because look she's a child star and she turned out just great it actually HELPED her, now let me exploit my kids. She isn't reading the record of her childhood carefully enough.
I'm really enjoying this virtual trip to Key West, because in real life I'm looking at the falling snow. What looks beautiful and is appreciated on Christmas Eve is disheartening in March. Another cold week ahead.
I wish there was the option on this blog to "like" a post. There are so many I agree with and I can't respond to them all especially as I read posts many hours after they are published and I feel out of the loop.
OK back to visions of thong clad pool boys and tropical drinks.
You know interesting 6 degrees of separation for me, I was nannying for someone who was at that very same SAG ceremony that night, I remember their dress and everything. Did the kids give two hoots about SAG? No. We played video games, cooked pasta, did some art project. It filmed early for the east coast so it was an early night. I remember they were going through the mail later on the counter still in their SAG dress lol.
I was new to it all then and thought how weird to be babysitting not for someone who is having a dinner date at the local mom and pop place, but someone going to the SAG awards. We did not watch the ceremony, no one in the house cared, and I had no idea until now that Shirley was honored that night. No one mentioned it. Now years later I finally watched her speech I missed and enjoyed it. This whole celebrity thing and famous thing and rubbing elbows thing just does not concern the average child. It is really an unusual child who cares one bit about any of that. They just wanted to be KIDS that night. This is why Kate is so hard to believe when she claims the kids have such an interest in being on T.V.
Do I believe one or two of them may have some interest in T.V., sure. But the odds that she popped out eight children who all just love the idea of being on T.V. when few other kids concern themselves with such a thing is slim to none. Either they never said that, or she brainwashed them into thinking they love the cameras, or they're just saying that to shut her up. Judging by their solemn behavior on camera the last two times they have been on it is hard to believe they love this at all.
What happened? I bet I've driven your hit count to new heights today/tonight, considering how many times I checked to see if anyone had posted!
Regarding the idea that all 8 kids wanted/still want to be on TV, the most damning evidence against that was the handwritten "No Cameras Allowed" sign on the twins' bedroom door. TFW can put words in their mouths until her dying breath, but that sign was written by a child. Her child. Who did not want to be filmed.
Call me crazy, but, for me, one of the requirements for me to feel safe is privacy.
Everyone has their own view of what is "safe" for them and their loved ones. Jon was "private" for man years as to the abuse he and the children received/are receiving from Kate. Personally, I don't find anything "safe" about being private, in every situation I've come across it makes the abuser stronger. What you consider "safe" is not what I consider "safe" nor perhaps what Jon considers "safe". At some point in the future, I'll bet the Gosselin children will be grateful to their Father that he finally took Kate's issues public
I don't think their nothing wrong with watching Sheryl Temple I used to watch her ever now and then as a kid.
But I'd think the boys rather watch a kids movie or an action flick like robocop and the girls might enjoy the movie frozen.
Somebody above mentioned that they thought Dr. Jenn and Farrah were starting to look like each other. True enough.
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Dr. Jenn battled an eating disorder for a decade in the 80's. She helped Joe Francis' fiance with this issue last season of CT and shared that it was an issue she struggled with as well:
What did you write your doctoral dissertation on and why?
I wrote my doctoral dissertation on the use of the non-diet approach to treat eating disordered women. I was inspired to write it because of my own experienced having overcome an eating disorder using that method. During my youth I was an elite level rhythmic gymnast and struggled with an eating disorder which lasted long after my retirement from the sport. This went on for a good decade of my life. It was a constant obsession. I thought the best I could hope for was to be a "normal" weight but be completely obsessed with my body and food.
Fortunately I was introduced to the non-diet approach and the work of Elyse Resch and Geneen Roth which changed my life. The idea of giving up dieting terrified me but I had hit "rock bottom" and didn't know what else to do. Through a lot of hard work and the use of this approach I became eating disorder free. I never thought that would happen. Food and weight is now a total non-issue for me. I eat what I want, no restrictions, and listen to my body. I never worry about my body or weight. I am completely free of the obsession and the constant background noise I used to experience and have been since 1991. I wrote my doctoral dissertation The Effects of an 8-Week Intuitive Eating Program on Eating Disordered Participants based on research, my clinical experience as a therapist, and my own experience in recovery. My No More Diets app is based on that dissertation.
- See more at: http://www.doctorjenn.com/about/faqs/qa/#sthash.RkCSKzug.dpuf
This is why Kate is so hard to believe when she claims the kids have such an interest in being on T.V.
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Kate has the only one that has any interest-(IMO)- of herself and the kids being on TV.
Clo Bo @ChloeXiaobi46 34m
@Kateplusmy8 I would like some of your help. I am going to be making 'Easy Chicken Enchiladas' am I supposed to cook the chicken before hand
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I don't know about any of you, but I prefer the chicken in my enchiladas to be raw, right out of the freezer. Why even bother to defrost?
Good Morning, so happy everyone is enjoying the virtual Key West trip! Today is another day with sunny skies, high temp close to 80, decorative pool boys keeping a continental breakfast spread convenient to the pool, and I think a couple drag queens followed me back from Aqua last night !
Today we can relax by the pool with a good book. Or take a tour around town. Go shopping. And we all have to go to the southern most point marker and have a group photo there! That's after breakfast and relaxation.
I celebrated the University of Virginia and the Virginia Commonwealth University basketball wins a bit TOO much last night. made lots and lots of new friends tho!
Joy, the cheese danish is to die for! But someone has put fat free half-and-half at the coffee bar, and if I'm on a virtual vacation, I must have the real thing.
Will TFW be having an Oscar party tonight? Because if there's one thing almost-10-year-old boys like more than Shirley Temple, it's watching awards shows!
Mmmm, this pool is nice. So relaxing to just lie back and be waited on hand and foot by the pool boys. Is it too early for pina coladas? I'm looking forward to our red carpet appearance tonight. Hope my new muumuu isn't out of place. It sure shows off the results of my "good bra". Anyone feel like a good game of Scrabble poolside?
I forgot -- Rhymes -- the two Sue Henry series' have a couple of crossover books that are fun. If you liked the Max and Stretch book you read, you don't have to have read the Jessie Arnold series to enjoy them.
I don't know about any of you, but I prefer the chicken in my enchiladas to be raw, right out of the freezer. Why even bother to defrost?
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Well at least the sheep didn't ask if she should remove it from the package be for cooking-(LOL)
I've been gone a couple of days and I'd like to post a few observations:
1. Argh, I missed the road trip....love Key West!
2. As far as the discussion re: respect for differing opinions. While I absolutely agree each person's "story" and opinons should be respected, it seems to me that a few of these posters who insist that their "stories" and "viewpoints" should be respected often criticize Jon for his stories and his opinions....can't have it both ways....sorry.
3. FYI, the sheeple do visit and post here and, if you are observant and take the time, they are easily recognized.
4. As stated above for those those who still insist that Jon keep quiet....Remember...Silence is the abuser's best friend.
Let's get dressed in our Oscar viewing finery later this afternoon. Before the soiree starts at the Hemingway house at six, we should go to a Key West tradition, Drag Queen Bingo at the 801 bourbon bar! Www.801bourbon.com
Also, for those wondering why the Judge has not taken more action against Kate, I was reading an article yesterday about a Judge, in Connecticut I believe, that refused to give a Father custody of his child even after his ex-wife had been accused of hiring a hit man to kill him. The child was turned over to the maternal grandparents even though no custody hearing had/has taken place.
I'm glad she didn't tweet that while they were watching the Shirley Temple documentary that they ALL broke out in song, On the Good Ship, Lollipop.
Like driving down the long driveway to the prison, Doe A Deer, A female deer, a drop, a drop of golden sun.
Poor kids.
Ex Nurse (112) asked a question of the grannies.
I can't speak from that perspective, but as a fairly new mother, I can relate my experiences. My mom, who lives close by, came to help me in the mornings so that I could get my other three children off to school without having to take a newborn out in the bitter cold. She'd stay and help with grocery shopping, cleaning, some laundry chores, etc., then go home and repeat the process at the end of the day, staying with the baby so that I could go out and about and get some things done. She was (and is) a godsend. Did she practically move in? Not really, although I wish she would have! I'm not sure how I would have managed without her help.
Husband's parents don't live as close by and they both have full-time jobs, and while they did come to visit and bring food, they weren't here on a regular basis. My mom and I talked about this, and she said she actually wished that they could have been here more often because it would have helped her out!
I don't exactly understand how his parents have cut down on your visitation or time with your daughter and new grandson. Can't you all be there are the same time? If they've practically moved in, don't they help her with things that need to be done? I would think that if they did, this would be appreciated. I know that in-laws can sometimes wear out their welcome, but this, too, shall pass. I don't know what you mean by your son hoping they will "back off." Exactly what do they do that they usurp his time? My husband tells my mom over and over again how grateful he is that she was there and he owes her "big time."
Paula, google Dr. Elizabeth Morgan. This happened some time ago -- 15 or 20 years -- but the judge in that case said there was a 50/50 chance her ex was sexually abusing their young daughter, and still granted him unsupervised visitation. Dr. Morgan spent a year in prison for hiding her daughter from her ex.
I finally made it down. When we woke up yesterday we were confronted with something we haven't seen for a while...RAIN! I spend a cozy day reading, drinking tea, catching up on some shows and playing candy crush. "Something Real" is turning out to be a really good book and candy crush is addictive. I'm about to delete it from my iPad. Bring on the mimosa's and the pool boys!
Ex Nurse, so sorry about the problems with the other grandparents. I don't have to deal with that aspect of it because my SIL's parents are truly sweet people. When we go to visit the boys, we have a family get together with all of us and his parents as well. They always say how good it is to see us, but they want to let us enjoy our time with the boys so they do not come around much until after we are gone. SIL's father told me that he and his wife want us to enjoy private time with the boys like they always get to do. That's what kind and considerate people they are.
However, I've seen the flip side of the coin with my mother, who was always with my brothers 2 boys and when she knew the other grandparents were coming over, she made a point of being there, too. She truly did hoard in on their alone time with their grandsons.
I'm so sorry, but I have no advice for you except to discuss your feelings with your son. Then he and his wife, or perhaps just his wife, can talk to her parents. However, don't feel uncomfortable being with that precious baby, and holding and hugging him no matter who is around. You are grandma, too.
Much love to you, sweetie, during this difficult situation. Please keep us updated on how things are going.
No, this is a different case.
Dad Seeks Custody of Daughter A Year After Ex Alledgedly Tried to Hire Hitman
Privacy emboldens the abuser....
Thanks for your respectful response. I have said this many times on this blog, but maybe you are new, so I will repeat it. Privacy is not the same as secrecy. Secrecy protects the abuser, and privacy protects the victim. Admin said that jOn takes these types of things to court. This is JMHO, of course. I don't think that I am in a position to state that all if the kids want the same thing, be it flavor ice cream or having their true-life drama splashed on television, tabloids and blogs.
3. FYI, the sheeple do visit and post here and, if you are observant and take the time, they are easily recognized.
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Yes, they do leave their droppings, and they think they are fooling us. They are not!
Scrabble by the pool? Will the pool boys play with us? :) Scrabble, that is!
Windsong, thank you for giving a different point of view. How wonderful that your mother was there to help, especially when you have 3 other young children as well.
Clo Bo @ChloeXiaobi46 34m
@Kateplusmy8 I would like some of your help. I am going to be making 'Easy Chicken Enchiladas' am I supposed to cook the chicken before hand
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This has to be a joke. Someone is doing some chain-yanking here. Aren't they?
Paula said... 131
Also, for those wondering why the Judge has not taken more action against Kate, I was reading an article yesterday about a Judge, in Connecticut I believe, that refused to give a Father custody of his child even after his ex-wife had been accused of hiring a hit man to kill him. The child was turned over to the maternal grandparents even though no custody hearing had/has taken place.
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The whole system needs to be overhauled. Judges are given too much latitude. It seems like the judge immediately picks a side. Often, when it turns out the side they picked is a rage-filled parental alienator, they find themselves having to accept that they were wrong. Which they apparently are unable to do. So in order to protect their ego, they look the other way and continue to allow the alienator to alienate.
Question for those who are familiar with family law. If the judge in a family law case is not enforcing the custody order, is there someone higher than him/her to appeal to?
LMG--
Thanks for your thoughts. My natural inclination is to pull away so that the new parents can have some space. But, yes, I am definitely entitled to time alone, too. Being separated from my son's father brings some extra drama and time issues, too. We co-hosted the circumcision ceremony, and plan to attend birthdays etc, together. But, other than that, I want to see them separately.
I am in a position to be available most days, due to a flexible work schedule. She volunteers at a non-profit one day a week, so the plan is that I will have him for the entire day every week.
To Ex Nurse-
I understand completely what your son is experiencing. My thoughts: your son is now a father, and one main role is to protect and maintain his own family. In laws are notorious for not recognizing boundaries (my parents included). You need to encourage your son to speak from his heart. To discuss it with his wife, now that first few days have passed and she is physically stronger. He needs to tell his wife hiss frustration, kindly, and hopefully she will understand that her first responsibility is to her child and husband, not to her parents. Transitions like this are tough for some, and can be marriage breakers. Their family has to come first. That means meeting their needs. Together they need to have honest conversations with her parents. While they are forever grateful, and love them, they need to ask them to step back so they can begin to form their own family without interference. The conversations should come from the heart, with love and respect, not anger or resentment. This is a passing transition, family is forever. Your son and DIL need to stand up for their new family.
3. FYI, the sheeple do visit and post here and, if you are observant and take the time, they are easily recognized.
I think your sheeple sniffer is broken at times, as you have called me and Mel sheeple too, and neither of us are. I can sniff out my own sheeple thank you very much. They cause no harm, so leave them be and they will soon waddle off back home again.
I think your sheeple sniffer is broken at times, as you have called me and Mel sheeple too, and neither of us are.
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lol!! Well, my sheeple sniffer isn't broken, and I haven't called you or Mel a sheeple. They do post here and while they may cause no harm most of the time, there have been situations where they tried to stir the pot, and then reported back to their flock that "we" all fell for it.
Pot-stirring, in my opinion, may be harmless, but too much of it wears thin and really isn't amusing because it's used as deflection and gets so many people worked up.
Steven Ousley II @stevenousley 9m
@Kateplusmy8 haven't heard from you in too long. I still think you're awesome-contrary to popular belief. Ppl are so quick to judge.
Way to tell Kate that she's not popular with most people! She must really appreciate the reminders that she is so disliked by so many! Sheeple just don't THINK!
Ex Nurse, so happy that you will have that little boy all to yourself one day a week. That will be a special bonding time for both of you.
I think I misunderstood your original comment, so my part of my comment probably didn't make much sense. Sorry about that.
Winsome said...145.
Yep.
This must be the case that Paula 131 was referring to. It's bizarre.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/connecticut-couple-bizarre-divorce-saga-takes-twisted-turn-article-1.1707443
OT but a good read about the world's oldest survivor of the Holocaust.
Contrary to what you might think, it is not depressing.
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/movies/2014/02/the_lady_in_number_6_nominated_for_the_best_documentary_short_oscar_reviewed.html
Ex Nurse, please correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't you say that you prefer privacy with regard to personal problems? If so, I can't help but wonder why you're bringing a personal, family problem here to the blog?
Ex-Nurse 143...said "I am entitled to alone time too". Nobody is "entitled" to alone time, nor should this be a competition.
You stated this is your first grandchild. Just sit back, take a deep breath and enjoy the time you do spend with your son and his family.
Pot-stirring, in my opinion, may be harmless, but too much of it wears thin and really isn't amusing because it's used as deflection and gets so many people worked up.
I just read the comments..some I agree with, and some I don't. It's not my life's work to be pro Kate or pro Jon. I just take the comments for what they are, various people's opinions...opinions that are no more true or false than my own opinions. I only take offense when some want to call others names, because their opinion doesn't mess with their own. Why would you let a person you don't even know upset you because their opinion is different than yours..this I do not understand.
Dmasy said... 3
My toes are in the sand. I have an umbrella drink in my hand. I encourage all friends suffering in the cold North to come on down.
Joy has organized a fine get-together!
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Did you bring any extra sunscreen? My nose is burnin' to a crisp out here....
Joy, as a matter of fact, my son in law bought himself a new boogie board just yesterday in Destin Fla. He says we can all borrow it. Dmasy, there is a pic of it...
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Mmmm, this pool is nice. So relaxing to just lie back and be waited on hand and foot by the pool boys. Is it too early for pina coladas? I'm looking forward to our red carpet appearance tonight. Hope my new muumuu isn't out of place. It sure shows off the results of my "good bra"
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I am polishing my crocs. And cracking open a whole new box o wine.
Where's PJs Momma? I have a new necklace to wear with my muumuu.
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Clo Bo @ChloeXiaobi46 34m
@Kateplusmy8 I would like some of your help. I am going to be making 'Easy Chicken Enchiladas' am I supposed to cook the chicken before hand
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This has to be a joke. Someone is doing some chain-yanking here. Aren't they?
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Don't know if they're doing some chain yanking or they lack reading comprehension skills. In the cookbook, the ingredients list for the enchiladas states the following:
"3 cups lightly grilled chicken breast
(you can use leftover chicken from the previous night)"
I know a lot of the recipe instructions can be ambiguous, but what about "lightly grilled" is so hard to understand?
I think that people ask Kate questions like this just in the hope that they will get a response, and then they can brag "Yay! Kate Gosselin responded to my tweet!!"
SMH
lol!! Well, my sheeple sniffer isn't broken, and I haven't called you or Mel a sheeple. They do post here and while they may cause no harm most of the time, there have been situations where they tried to stir the pot, and then reported back to their flock that "we" all fell for it.
When you say of Winsome & me that "they tried to stir the pot, and then reported back to their flock", you're 100% wrong.
I don't have twitter, and I don't post about TFW anywhere else.
You're saying that Winsome and I both post here. You're right. I do post here. But I don't try to stir the pot, IMO. And I try to never cause harm to anyone, including you.
Enough said about me and my posts. Moving on.
Dwindle, so nice to see you poolside! I have some sunscreen I'd be happy to let you use. But it's not organic -- is that okay?
When you say of Winsome & me that "they tried to stir the pot, and then reported back to their flock", you're 100% wrong.
I don't have twitter, and I don't post about TFW anywhere else.
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That's not what I meant. The "they" is referring to the sheeple, not to you. That's my fault. It sounded like "they" meant you because "they" followed your names. I never called you or winsomeone a sheeple. I was talking about some of the non-fans who have, in the past, come here to stir the pot. It had nothing to do with you, and I'm sorry that I wasn't clear about it. I know that you aren't a sheeple, and neither is winsomeone and you're not pot-stirrers.
This Key West sun (and the Rum Runners) are getting to me!
Having a great time here in Key West. One of the pool boys offered to doggie-sit, so I can go to some of the activities later on!! I agree with whoever else said we should extend this trip for a few days.
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lol!! Well, my sheeple sniffer isn't broken, and I haven't called you or Mel a sheeple. They do post here and while they may cause no harm most of the time, there have been situations where they tried to stir the pot, and then reported back to their flock that "we" all fell for it.
When you say of Winsome & me that "they tried to stir the pot, and then reported back to their flock", you're 100% wrong.
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I took the "they" to refer to the sheeple, not you and Mel. The poster specifically said that she has NOT called you or Mel a sheeple, then goes on to describe "them" (the sheeple).
Finally got to see the CT episode, Fired Up! Isn't that ironic that the name of that episode is named Fired Up? (Milo). Jon was fired up and he started and I was saying Go Jon Go, whistling and clapping. He did the most damage in there! My Lord, how could one woman inflict so much pain, anguish and emotional distress to one person and her kids her family her friends and have enough left for everyone she ever comes across. That strength can only be described as satanic.
FUFK = Jon's Fired Up For Kate, Kicking K's But and Taking Names!
Before he started, Farrah was shown and she moved her head over and Jon was leaning back against a door and his head was down. I felt so bad for him. But I really believe this did get out a tremendous amount of pent up anger and after he looked so relieved and the stress was just about gone on his face. To me, he reminds me of someone who is suffering from PTSD, IMHO.
I was tearing up for Jon and Kelsey also when she was in the rage room. Just wished they hadn't of used real food.
I would have loved, loved, loved it if Jon when he was pounding things with the sledge hammer if he would of said when he hit:
The dinner plates: kate stop feeding the kids on plastic prison plates!
The dining room chairs: When he was beating that chair against the French doors, scream: You forced the kids to sit in high chairs till they were 7 years old!
The glasses on the table: You made them drink out of sippy cups till they were ____.
The television: You make them watch themselves contantly on DVD of the old shows when they are little! Loved when he bashed that tv screen!
How would you defend that kate? Say it is not true? Sorry, it is all Documented proof on the DVD's, show after show. Bibs, sippy cups, high chairs. All in the name to keep the show going and manipulating peoples minds that the kids are still babies. My grandson is 10 months old today. He looks twice as old in size. Not fat, but big boned and tall. He was sitting in a booster seat with sides at the family dining room table in a regular chair for the past 2 months.
I don't see how the judge in family court that Jon has to deal with can sleep at night. Also the judge in the case of giving custody? back to the wife who hired a hit man to kill her husband, her child's father? If she would do that to him, that child is in danger. Incredible.
At the end, Jon gave Liz a jewelry box that looks like a ring box. Maybe instead of a ring, it is earrings, or a half a heart for each of them.
Also, didn't someone say that Jon and Liz didn't stay for the wrap party for CT? so he could get home to be with his kids. I am sure Liz missed her kids too. Would TCFW miss a wrap party to jet home to be with her kids? Hades to the NO!
The dining room chairs: When he was beating that chair against the French doors, scream: You forced the kids to sit in high chairs till they were 7 years old!
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Are you sure that they were in high chairs until they were seven? Is this seen on a DVD episode? Which one? I thought they were using the wooden chairs that pulled up to the table until they were about five, but not seven. They weren't the actual high chairs with the trays that are made for toddlers, but rather just "high" chairs.
Of course, I could be wrong. Does anyone have the clip of them still using the high chairs at age seven?
Joy, thanks so much for arranging this lovely getaway. Last night I snuck into Ernest Hemingway's bedroom closet and hid there until they closed the house. Everyone should spend a night in Mr. Hemingway's bed with one of the cats. It's purrrfectly charming.
Off to catch some rays, then over to Captain Tony's to knock back a few.
What time does the Oscar party start?
Ex Nurse - I'm sorry you are feeling frustrated at a time that should be completely full of joy. I am not a grandmom, but I will offer my perspective anyway, speaking from the vivid memories of how I felt when I became a mommy for the first time.
If your DIL is like most young women who have a good relationship with their mother, she probably really needs her mom right now to help calm and steady her. She needs her mom to help get her through the newness and, at times, overwhelming angst at suddenly becoming responsible for the welfare of a tiny new life.
This is not to say that a son doesn't need his mother at this time, but it is a very different need. A daughter has just experienced the same thing her mother did when she had children, and that creates a very special bond.
It is great that your son confides in you, but ultimately, the decisions he and his wife make need to be based on what they feel is best for their family. Trust them to get it right for themselves unless and until you see things going really badly. And if he tells you he is uncomfortable with decisions being made, encourage him to work to communicate that to his wife.
Sometimes your feelings will be hurt or you will be concerned that the in-laws are overstepping. Try to remember how wonderful it is that your grandson has two parents and two sets of grandparents who are ready to heap tons of love upon him. Focus your positive energy on appreciating every moment you get to spend with him, instead of focusing on the moments you don't.
You will navigate these waters fine. Best wishes to you and your precious grandson!
"3 cups lightly grilled chicken breast
(you can use leftover chicken from the previous night)"
I know a lot of the recipe instructions can be ambiguous, but what about "lightly grilled" is so hard to understand?
I think that people ask Kate questions like this just in the hope that they will get a response, and then they can brag "Yay! Kate Gosselin responded to my tweet!!"
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Maybe they've never grilled a chicken and therefore don't know that grilling means that the chicken is "cooked" -- as opposed to raw!
Not banging my head anymore. I've banged as much as I want to bang.
Speaking of which, I was watching The Graduate last night when I couldn't sleep. I laughed at the scene where Ben put his hand on Mrs. Robinson's breast and went to the wall and banged his head. I was thinking about how some of us just want to do this (bang our heads, not feel up Mrs. Robinson) because of the dumb things that sheeple come up with.
Auntie Ann, I am heading to Drag Queen Bingo at five, then about six head over to the Hemingway house. It's virtually reserved for us the entire night! Since the forecast is for snow ice cold in Virginia, I am staying in Key West for a few more days! In my virtual reality anyway!
"3 cups lightly grilled chicken breast
(you can use leftover chicken from the previous night)"
You know, I can see asking what appears to be a stupid question after reading this. Lightly grilled? That can be read as half-cooked IMO, or in Kate's case, half-assed cooked. Of course I know better, but what exactly is lightly grilled.? You either cook it or you don't cook it. Lightly is a word that could mean not exactly cooked. Who writes recipes like this?
Joy - Drag Queen Bingo sounds... interesting. What exactly is that? lol!
Midnight - I watched the Graduate last night too. (Hemingway House has cable)
I always like going to IMDB to find out more about a movie, even though I've seen TG a hundred times I've never read this about that scene:
"In Dustin Hoffman and Anne Bancroft's first encounter in the hotel room, Bancroft did not know that Hoffman was going to grab her breast. Hoffman decided offscreen to do it, because it reminded him of schoolboys trying to nonchalantly grab girls' breasts in the hall by pretending to put their jackets on. When Hoffman did it onscreen, director Mike Nichols began laughing loudly offscreen. Hoffman began to laugh as well, so rather than stop the scene, he turned away from the camera and walked to the wall. Hoffman banged his head on the wall, trying to stop laughing, and Nichols thought it was so funny, he left it in. "
Call Me Crazy said... 164
''.....She needs her mom to help get her through the newness and, at times, overwhelming angst at suddenly becoming responsible for the welfare of a tiny new life.
This is not to say that a son doesn't need his mother at this time, but it is a very different need. A daughter has just experienced the same thing her mother did when she had children, and that creates a very special bond.''
''......Focus your positive energy on appreciating every moment you get to spend with him, instead of focusing on the moments you don't.''
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Ex Nurse, I am not only a Grandmother, but also a Great-Grandmother, and Call Me Crazy has given you great insight and very good advice. I came here to say the same thing, but see that CMC has expressed my thoughts so well, that I will only emphasize this: ''Focus your positive energy on appreciating every moment you get to spend with him, instead of focusing on the moments you don't.''
Being a Grand/Great-Grandmother has been the greatest joy of my life, even though some of the times the children were on the opposite coast from me. My girls put the phone to the infants ear so I could talk to them. By the time I finally saw my 8 month old grand-child, she was clinging to her other grandmother because my face was a stranger to her. When I started talking to her, she broke into the biggest gummy smile and held out her arms to me, because she knew my voice! I still vividly remember the way my heart was filled w/joy that she knew who I was! To waste even a second thinking about what you don't have is a wasted second of joy and love for that precious baby!
Bless you Greedy Gosselins for taking the time to make me feel 'normal', and though I am not happy that you went thru this, am happy to hear your words of wisdom. It's like you know me so well with what is going on with me. Thanks for taking the time:)
And are you saying you live in the same province as me? Would love to know where you live, but understand if you want to keep that info off of here. I have no problem saying where I live, I live near Fairy Glen. It would be a surprise to find out we lived very close to each other! Thanks again for being so kind to me:)
Auntie Ann, I am heading to Drag Queen Bingo at five, then about six head over to the Hemingway house. It's virtually reserved for us the entire night! Since the forecast is for snow ice cold in Virginia, I am staying in Key West for a few more days! In my virtual reality anyway!
Have you ever seen a drag queen in person? Once while at The Cleveland Clinic, I saw a man who seemed to be halfway converted to a woman. Everyone in the waiting room was staring at him, and snickering behind their hands. I felt so sorry for him, and embarrassed that people don't always behave as they should.
If your DIL is like most young women who have a good relationship with their mother, she probably really needs her mom right now to help calm and steady her. She needs her mom to help get her through the newness and, at times, overwhelming angst at suddenly becoming responsible for the welfare of a tiny new life.
This is not to say that a son doesn't need his mother at this time, but it is a very different need. A daughter has just experienced the same thing her mother did when she had children, and that creates a very special bond.
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Absolutely. I was going to say the same thing, only you said it so much better. It's an entirely different relationship that a daughter, who has just given birth, has with her mother. It's a bonding kind of experience, when even though the daughter is an adult, there are times when she still may feel that she needs the love (and wisdom) of her "mommy." Giving birth is one of those times.
Have you ever seen a drag queen in person? Once while at The Cleveland Clinic, I saw a man who seemed to be halfway converted to a woman.
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I have never seen a drag queen in person, however I've seen them on tv and in movies. Some of them are knock dead gorgeous and certainly know more about applying makeup than some women.
OrangeCrusher1 said... 167
"3 cups lightly grilled chicken breast
(you can use leftover chicken from the previous night)"
You know, I can see asking what appears to be a stupid question after reading this. Lightly grilled? That can be read as half-cooked IMO, or in Kate's case, half-assed cooked. Of course I know better, but what exactly is lightly grilled.?
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I, too, have to say that "lightly grilled' to the uninitiated could mean serving undercooked chicken. You grill chicken. To alter grilled to lightly grilled should have been caught be an editor.
More stupidity in Kate's amateur hour cookbook.
Winsomeness....
Thanks for your perspective. My mother helped a lot after my 3rd was born, and it was a lifesaver for me as well. This is a different situation. Her parents expect them to spend every weekend and holiday with them. They live in the area, but usually spend the night when they visit. Yes, we have all spent time together with the baby. We are different religions, so Thanksgiving is the only holiday in common, and we do usually get together with both families.
Even before the baby was born, my husband was becoming resentful of how much time they expect to see them, to the point of accompanying them on their vacations and befriending their friends. Our side of the family is negotiating a difficult transition because of our separation. Their parents are incredible gossips--it seems to be their major activity. I know every private detail of everyone's problems and tragedies. So, I am not comfortable around them because it is a sure thing that they will be dissecting everything they see, and talking to everyone else about it. I have spoken to my DIL about this, because, I was unsure whether she could be trusted to keep it out of her family's routine gossipfest. She has said that she understands, and I do trust that she does and will honor my request that she not discuss us with her family.
As an example, we have a summer trip for a family wedding in August. Her mother has dropped very strong hints about coming along to take care of the baby during the wedding. This is he MO--starts bringing it up, and then includes herself.
Her mother and I were both at the delivery and it was an extremely moving and bonding experience, it isn't that I mind seeing them, I just don't want to see them every single time I see the baby. The newborn days really fly by fast, and we all don't want to miss any of it. If it was just my issue, I wouldn't bother with it at all. But, it is hard to see my son beginning to simmer over, and then shove his feelings down because he is trying to support his wife in these kinds of decisions. I hope that they can navigate through this and come out stronger--we probably all will. My husband is pretty erratic, so I have more than enough to navigate when just our side of the family is together.
When the baby came home, we scheduled different nights for each side to come over. Sure enough, on our night, her mother showed up, too. So, I don't think I am imagining it. To quote Seinfeld--she is double dipping!
Jeremy said...
Their family has to come first. That means meeting their needs. Together they need to have honest conversations with her parents. While they are forever grateful, and love them, they need to ask them to step back so they can begin to form their own family without interference. The conversations should come from the heart, with love and respect, not anger or resentment. This is a passing transition, family is forever. Your son and DIL need to stand up for their new family.
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Great advice, Jeremy! You put into words what I have been trying to express.
LMG--I don't think you got it wrong at all, and your words make perfect sense to me---must be speaking in granny code!
I envy all of you in Key West! Enjoy those glorious sunsets and the fresh shrimp! I'm in Florida for a few more days but sadly not near the Keys. Hasn't the weather been spectacular? After the ridiculous amount of snow we've had in the NE, to be able to go outside without a coat is a treat.
Up thread someone mentioned a body part getting caught in a pool filter? Well....I was in the hotel pool the other day and leaned back against the wall and BAM! The filter was so strong it felt like a vise grabbing my lower back. There were no warnings and it blended in with the pool. I yelled, it really hurt, but was able to pull myself away but was left with a nice black and blue bruise and an achy left side. Good thing my bikini days are over! Anyway, beware of pool filters in Key West and elsewhere!
All in all, I think my son and DIL are adjusting well. They have no problem telling me what they do or do not want. However, I generally respect a boundary--her parents tend to ignore, or come up with some other reason to be there, Her parents were originally planning to stay for the entire first week, and they ended up leaving after one night. So, some kind of conversation happened, because they were clearly not happy when they left.
Are there any ground rules tonight for Oscar discussion, as far as mentioning winners? I know sometimes feathers get ruffled. Your thoughts, Admin?
I was trying to find an episode of them older sitting in those chairs, and I came across the trailer for the Emeril cooking for the G's for the 100th episode. Wow. They show Emeril and said, Emeril is here and then they show Emeril, to the left, TCWSWFW in the middle, Jon to the right.
Jon was holding a big bowl and scraping it into a big dish. (Why didn't TCWSWFW hold the bowl, instead of hitting Emeril!) Emeril's arm was on the counter, and TCWSWFW slapped the DOG MESS HECK out of Emeril's arm, his head flinched back. It didn't show, but on the episode she hit him twice and then he started rubbing his arm and he was in pain and he just looked at her, trying to fathom what he did to deserve that.
TCWSWFW = The Crazy Wooden Spoon Wielding Former Wife
IIRC, didn't we talk about the kids being seven years old when she got the regular dining room chairs? I wish I would of just put, You made them sit in those high chairs way, way too long, for years!
I went to a drag show by mistake. My friend got us tickets for The Great Pretenders which we thought was a mystery play, which we enjoyed. We were about 18 or 19 then. The drag show 'girls' were indeed beautiful, but we were so scared we would called up for audience participation.I never trusted my friend to by tickets to shows for us again!
Sorry to be commenting so much--I am answering as I see them. Call me crazy, I understand completely the special bond between a mother and daughter--I have 2 daughters. That is why all of our visits have followed her side of the family. Going forward, maybe this will be a non-issue--I hope that is the case. I do think that they are speaking up to her parents that they need some privacy, and, hopefully, her parents will get that, too. I know that I am more sensitive right now, due to what is happening in my family. I have encouraged my son to support his wife throughout the pregnancy. My DIL has said that she never knows how my son is feeling about things-he doesn't put forward his feelings and thoughts. So, she just makes most of the decisions. I don't want them to look back at this time and see the beginnings of what have become full-blown problems. It is their job to figure that all out. I am only talking to them about it because they have brought the issue up to me in the first place.
Remona--thanks for weighing in. Great-grandma is impressive?
Meant to say "Great-grandma is impressive! Not, great-grandma is impressive! Whole different tone!
Knock! Knock! Here I am for the Oscar party! I brought Caviar! Yes, a big bowl of Texas Caviar! lol Please bartender, a sloe gin fizz, and some toast points and a wooden spoon! I brought extra organic sunscreen, sunglasses and Journey CD's. Love Steve Perry!
I thought of that last night and right after I thought of it, Frasier came on and at the very beginning before it was even mentioned, I wondered oh the Caviar episode.
Can you believe it was the Caviar episode? This one is every funny. Oh my gosh. When I was typing about Frasier, a man that plays one of the people who has a radio show, Gil Chesterton was on Law and Order, SVU that I was watching. USA is having a marathon of Guest Who Did It. It has been pretty good.
My DIL has said that she never knows how my son is feeling about things-he doesn't put forward his feelings and thoughts. So, she just makes most of the decisions. I don't want them to look back at this time and see the beginnings of what have become full-blown problems.
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I don't understand why you would be upset because her parents are spending so much time there, and with the baby. There are parents who have no relationship with their children and often don't even bother with their grandchildren. I would think that this child will have the best of both worlds -- grandparents on both sides who will love and cherish him. If it were my son, I'd be ecstatic that her parents cared so much about their new grandchild that they'd want to be in this baby's life.
Jane, you are REALLY enjoying Florida. The rest of us have active imaginations!
Dwindle, do you still need to borrow some sunscreen?
It rained in Texas today. I am told that moisture will encourage an outstanding Bluebonnet crop.
Her parents were originally planning to stay for the entire first week, and they ended up leaving after one night. So, some kind of conversation happened, because they were clearly not happy when they left.
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You posted that they practically moved in. I'm really confused (nothing new there!)...
On 2/28/12 Kate wrote "Just a few months ago, I called them and ordered an additional five chairs …..and we passed our wooden high chairs/ booster chairs to another group of six who can use them! :) It was time! We’re all grown up now! :) Now we enjoy dinner together as a big family – all seated in “big people” chairs! Ahh life is good!" That does make them 7.5
http://www.kateplusmy8.com/ask-kate-feb2012/
Dmasy, yes, I am enjoying Florida and feel blessed to be away from the cold and snow and ice for a week. It's been a horrible winter on so many levels for my family so this brief respite is quite welcome!
Ex-Nurse...I wanted to echo the sentiments of the others who have posted. Enjoy this time; it passes quickly. I liked someone's idea of enjoy the time you *do* have, and try to ignore the time don't have.
I am sooo jealous that you get to babysit one day a week! So many of us are not granted that! (I still work full-time.) And you got to be present for the birth! How awesome!
Our DIL didn't even tell us when she was in labor. We happened to be visiting that evening, and were wondering why she seemed to be staying in the bedroom. Didn't even hit my radar that she was in labor as this is something she does when she's miffed at our son, or miffed about anything actually. She's easily miffed.
You'd think that would be something that would be exciting to share. It's not like we were going to follow her to the hospital or anything.
But it was ok for her to have called her parents; they *needed* to know. Why they needed to know and we didn't is beyond me.
They got to see the baby within an hour of him being born, and we were told that the DIL was now 'too tired' to have any other company. Maybe we could see the baby in a day or two. Hard to get past that one. It still hurts to think about it.
I know what you mean about honoring boundaries. Some of us have enough sense to know what proper boundaries are and honor them without being told. And we certainly honor anything that's brought up.
It's so frustrating to watch other people just ignore the boundaries and blithely tromp through life.
I would be very annoyed about the family wedding. There's no reason for her mother to invite herself to that. You'll be there to help with the baby, as well as your daughters, and your son. Talk about not respecting boundaries. Sigh.
Thank you High Sodium Content for the information.
On 2/28/12 Kate wrote "Just a few months ago, I called them and ordered an additional five chairs …..and we passed our wooden high chairs/ booster chairs to another group of six who can use them! :) It was time! We’re all grown up now! :) Now we enjoy dinner together as a big family – all seated in “big people” chairs! Ahh life is good!" That does make them 7.5
http://www.kateplusmy8.com/ask-kate-feb2012/
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I think, though, that when people read that the kids were in "high chairs" until such and such an age, they think of the high chairs that are used for infants and toddlers, the ones with the vinyl seats and sliding trays. If I recall, the chairs that the kids had were the ones that are used in restaurants. They were like regular chairs, used right at the table (no trays) but were just higher than your standard chairs.
Still, no reason to be in them until they were that old, unless the kids were unusually short and it worked for them. Nothing worse than putting a child in a regular chair before he's ready and him at eye level with the table!
Anecdotes about Ernest Hemingway, while we are waiting for the Oscar action, and enjoying our delectable nibbles and fancy drinks! Everyone looks so nice in their fancy dressy crocs!
Ernest Hemingway liked to go to a bar down Duval St called Sloppy Joe's. One night he came in and the owner and patrons were taking chairs, tables, everything out! The bar owner said his landlord who owned the building was going up on the rent! So the bar was moving, semi secretly. According to our personal tote guide, Ernest then said that he had ” pissed away enough money there to buy the bar. At which point the bar owner said he was right, and he should take a urinal home! Yes, Ernest dragged a urinal of the wall and dragged it down the street home. His wife Pauline was horrified, but he refused to get rid of it. So Pauline laid the urinal on it's side, had tile laid around it, put a big urn on top, and had a pipe run to it, to make it a fountain in the garden. If you haven't already done it, walk to the garden out back and take a look! It's a functional drinking pond for the cats.
They got to see the baby within an hour of him being born, and we were told that the DIL was now 'too tired' to have any other company. Maybe we could see the baby in a day or two.
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If a newborn is in the hospital nursery, and as the baby's grandparents, you have a pass into the maternity department, can't you see the baby? Why would a relative have to wait a day or so to see a baby?
If I remember Kate was getting a lot of flak on twitter for having the kids still in high chairs. They were the kind of wooden highchairs that most restaurant have. They are the same, just no tray and the child sits in them like any other high chair. I remember seeing the kids pushing them against a wall and stacking them three high.
Ex-Nurse-
I was thinking about the other parents staying at the house that first week.
For myself, I wouldn't want anyone staying at the house. I paid for the out of town grandparents to stay at a hotel. I wanted time to bond with the baby, and just be the three of us most of the time. I didn't mind people coming for a short while to admire the baby, but I didn't want them to stay long.
The conversations should come from the heart, with love and respect, not anger or resentment. <----- I really like this.
Do encourage your son to speak to his wife (with love and respect) about what he needs. It's his child, too; it's not only his wife's needs that are important. They need to decide together how they want things and come to some kind of agreement about it. They need to set the tone about what they want right from the beginning.
We've all seen here what happens when one partner stuffs their feelings. Nothing good comes of it.
I think it's hard sometimes to figure out something equitable as far as time with the baby. It's hard when one set of grandparents is granted unlimited access and the other set is more regulated. And harder yet when there is a divorce on one or more sides. Hard to accommodate everyone's desires to have time with the baby, and still have bonding time for the new nuclear family.
I'm happy that you'll have the one day a week. What a lovely gift of time for you and the baby.
Ex-nurse....try to ignore a lot of the pushiness with the other grandparents. It will all work out as time goes by. When we were small we had one grandmother that would give us each a dollar and the other one gave us cookies. Guess who the favorite was!
Savor the moment. That will last for a very long time.
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