Sunday, January 26, 2014

Recap: Couples Therapy episode 4, That 'entrepreneurial' sex tape

Last week on Couples Therapy, Wu-Tang was upset because he's dating a wonderful woman who, oh sh&&&&t, is an ex-prostitute. He does not understand that not all ex-prostitutes are the same. I didn't know what 'I met her while I was on my grind. And I'm still on my grind' meant last week and I still don't know this week. Anyone? I tried going to Urban Dictionary, but that wasn't much help. It thinks grind means a large group of something, such as geese. Why would Wu-Tang be messing around with birds when there's a nice girl like Kelsey to pay attention to?

The lesbians play detective about Teen Duck Lips, growing increasingly suspicious her accidental unexpected unplanned "oops" sex tape was no mistake at all. They think it might actually have been produced. The lesbians crack me up. They are as serious as Jessica Chastain in Zero Dark Thirty, getting to the bottom of this.


There they are laptop out horrifying video keyed up, ready to solve some equations, calculate sunrises and sunsets and wind speeds, memorize some blueprints inch by inch and eventually save first-world civilization from Teen Duck Lips's evil reign. I for one salute them as true American heroes.

Coming up, Liz thinks Jon was masturbating, and Jon says um, what? I wasn't doing any such thing.

Liz, come on.

My bad mood is lifted immediately when I see Dr. Jenn has Teen Duck Lips talking about Debra! Yes! If they won't physically bring Debra on this show (please pretty please?), at least we should be able to talk about her. If you don't know the joy that is Teen Duck Lips's gestational carrier Debra Danielson, you need to marathon watch Teen Mom. She's remarkably well put together for such a nut. She even apparently is quite successful in the real estate business.


She looks a little like she could be Farrah Fawcett's sister, even styles her hair like her sometimes, but she's Howard Hughes crazy, maybe crazier.

Unfortunately that fantastic series was part of the big swiffer Netflix did on January 1 and is now gone from our streaming queues along with Braveheart, Mr. Bean, and a bunch of other great stuff (B.S., Netflix! What will I do without my Scotts, my Brits, and my dysfunctional Iowans?), but I'm sure you can find it somewhere. It's worth blowing a whole weekend to watch, I promise.

Credits roll, and then the lesbians rat out Teen Duck Lips to Duck Lips and her douchebag fiancĂ© who's always too hot, letting them know the "sex tape" is actually produced pornography.  Oh, it's totally backdoor, too, they say.

Backdoor? I'll have to consult Urban Dictionary again for that, stand by ...... Oh, my word.

Well, that's "entrepreneurial" of her, says Duck Lips. Ha, good one, Duck Lips!

One of the lesbians explains look have I done sexual things on T.V.? Yes I have, and I will not stand in judgment of others doing that, too. My issue is that she lied to me about it. Just don't lie, that's not too much to ask. I really like these girls. They're just so rational and full of common sense, and it's refreshing.

They go in for group therapy. Is this all the same day as last episode? Jon and Liz are still wearing the same clothes and it's still dark out. That must have been some marathon night of filming, but as long as it's consenting adults, who cares?

Kelsey is upset that Wu-Tang has cheated on her in the past. He did? What right does he have then to judge her for being an ex-prostitute? Unclean hands! Good grief.

Wu-Tang sits there having a lightbulb moment for awhile, and for a second I think maybe he's going to tell Kelsey he's so sorry for being such a hypocritical tool, she's a great girlfriend and he loves her. But instead Wu-Tang is finally like, hold up, am I being cast as the "bad guy" in all this? Heh, it's like it just hit him how this is all going to be spun on our T.V. screens. Yes, Wu-Tang, you are indeed the bad guy. Too late. Not much progress made there, so Dr. Jenn switches to the lesbians.

Their biggest issue really is not being ready to settle down and one of them doesn't like to hug much. Seems kinda trite sitting among the likes of Duck Lips and Teen Duck Lips. Come back when you have real problems, you're not ready for prime time yet. Liz says she relates to that, since she needs her space sometimes. She sure makes Jon sound overbearing. Jon says sure he likes that closeness because his marriage didn't have a lot of affection and was more like a business transaction. That was one lucrative business transaction! This month, for the first time Jon publicly called Kate a narcissist, after she put the twins on T.V. on Today and they choked. I wonder if Jon has read about how narcissists withhold affection. Sounds like exactly what happened to him.

Is this a reality show or a press release? Jon says it's not true that he had affairs which ended the marriage. You see, the marriage actually ended because of post it notes. Wow, never knew that. I assume he must have been so smothered by Kate's to do lists he had to end it or suffocate.


Jon had a girlfriend when he met Liz, and when they took a break recently he slept with other women and even moved someone in. I guess I should be shocked, but I'm too distracted by the fact that Liz referred to her boyfriend during the split as "a dude." Yeah, she's totally that girl. The lesbians are literally covering their eyes, LOL!

I can't help but like Dr. Jenn, whose hair today is so straight it could be pick up sticks, because I think she understands this situation to an impressive degree, and is saying things that Jon desperately needs to hear. The doc says Jon is still rebelling against Kate (it's TFW, Dr. Jenn, but no matter) with Liz.

Duck Lips's fiancé, who if I didn't mention is Duck Lips's lawyer, also sometimes has trust issues because he gets jealous when Duck Lips talks to her fans. I keep picturing this couple like Joan Crawford and her boyfriend Greg Savitt (also her lawyer) in Mommie Dearest, where she tells him "You expect me to ignore my fans? They're life and death to me, baby! They're the ones who really made me!" And Greg says, "I expect you to walk in with me and sit down at your table with me!"

For some reason Duck Lips's troubles are deeply upsetting to Teen Duck Lips, who is in silent tears again over by her lonesome on the couch. She's even clutching a tissue for maximum effect. Teen Duck Lips uses props when she fake cries, she is really dedicated to this craft.

There goes those vocal chords again. Teen Duck Lips is upset about her sex tape. The lesbians are looking at her like, "Uh-huh .... Go on." Heh. She goes on. The lesbians finally can't help themselves, they're like, So, about this so-called sex tape, Teen Duck Lips. Ha, the lesbians are cracking up now. They can't keep it together anymore.

Oh dear, when even Duck Lips is resting her forehead on her hand in dismay you know it's going to be good. The lesbians calmly confront Teen Duck Lips, skillfully trapping Teen Duck Lips in a lie when she accidentally admits there was a camera person. Not that this actually took a lot of skill at all, they just basically let her talk and the lies spewed forth.

We're not judging you, we're not judging, they assure Teen Duck Lips. No, they're just having fun. That's not judgment. That's just a good time. Dr. Jenn interjects to make a useless comment that it's good Teen Duck Lips is talking about this. Good for our entertainment she must mean.

In a wide angle shot of the couples, you can catch Liz just quietly rubbing Jon's knee, almost subconsciously. Like when you're watching a movie and find yourself playing with your man's hair without realizing it. We never saw TFW make such a gentle gesture toward him and it's strangely kind of touching because clearly he is craving something tangible like that. I believe them that they love each other, I think they both just have a great deal of issues that need to be worked out first and they probably both would benefit from being truly single for awhile. No dating at all. Heck, a year from now they could get back together and be a completely different, and much healthier couple.

Coming up! Jon and Liz are a little behind about what the big deal is about this so-called sex tape, but don't worry Kelsey happily fills them in. Teen Duck Lips feels left out from the group, and trust her she can tell when she's being excluded. Is that because it happens to her all the time?

I can't wait to see Labor Day. I think Kate Winslett has emerged as one of the greatest actresses of her generation. Way better than jokes like Goopy here. Thank goodness Winslett didn't jump off that ship back in 1997.

We're back. Day 6, 12:21 p.m. Ha, this really is starting to feel like Zero Dark Thirty.

Kelsey is apologizing to Wu-Tang? What the...

Wu-Tang can't even bring himself to roll out of bed for her. Rather he acknowledges this heart to heart with a fist bump. Free Kelsey.

Over lunch, Kelsey tells Jon and Liz about sex tape gate, and their reaction is pretty much the same as everybody else's in the house. Yep, sounds like full on porn to us. Jon says just own up to it, sheesh, even Kim Kardashian owned up to hers. I just love how all the housemates love to rub it in that Teen Duck Lips is nothing more than a poor man's Kim Kardashian. Somehow it's just so insulting and clearly drives Teen Duck Lips crazy.

You know I haven't seen this sex tape, but I'll take Catelynn's word that Farrah sounds like a dying horse in it (ha-ha!). I can just see Cate and her sweet boyfriend Tyler pulling this up on their laptop and busting an absolute gut laughing. Teen Mom's Catelynn and Tyler have always been rather mature and trustworthy. Of all the teen parents equipped to raise a child, they were it. And yet they were the ones who gave their kid up for adoption, go figure. (By the way when Catelynn made that comment, Teen Duck Lips accused her of being jealous. Sound familiar?)

To settle any further debate about Jon and Liz's wardrobe, it looks like yesterday they were indeed just wearing frumpy airplane clothes. This afternoon, Jon has on a clean starched Navy polo, undershirt, and nice jeans, and Liz is wearing a conservative black shirt and pressed skirt. They look completely appropriate and professional. Which is kind of funny for a show as salacious as this.

Predictably, that awkward moment arrives where someone you've just been talking about walks into the room. Teen Duck Lips sashays in with her chopped salad, her usual unsettling lack of eye contact, and leaves as quickly as she arrived.

Jon says Teen Duck Lips probably did the tape to change her brand (ugh, I hate when he talks about brand when it comes to human beings, it's just so weird) but now it's blowing up in her face. Jon has practically earned a degree by now in Things Blowing Up in People's Faces. 2013 was the year of things blowing up in TFW's face while he and a handsome guy named Tuma watched from the sidelines popcorn in hand along with the rest of us mediocre.

Aw, Teen Duck Lips. Everyone is having fun out by the fire and Teen Duck Lips is inside by herself being left out. Poor thing. "These people" don't include her, she would never be friends with "these people," she tells a counselor.

Oh, Teen Duck Lips. For starters, you might stop addressing them as "these people" if you're serious about being included. She makes them sound so proletariat.

Aw, Teen Duck Lips has no friends because she's a sociopath and no one likes her, not even other sociopaths like Duck Lips. Wow, that's embarrassing. Usually most deviants can at least find a few friends in other similar deviants. Not Teen Duck Lips. This is all very boring, so while I wait for this sequence to be over I browse Urban Dictionary. I really want to know what Wu-Tang meant by meeting Kelsey on his grind, and I have an idea. Instead of searching for just "grind" I'm going to search for "on my grind."

Bingo, here it is! And now I know. Thanks, Urban Dictionary.

Coming up, finally we get to talk about Debra.







We're back, and Teen Duck Lips goes into a one-on-one session with Dr. Jenn. Dr. Jenn says at this point it's obvious Teen Duck Lips's boyfriend is not gonna show up. Ha, ya think? Teen Duck Lips whines that the housemates don't like her. I swear Dr. Jenn's eyes are drooping, she seems as bored with this as I am. That or the fake eyelashes make her eyes look half closed.

Most of Teen Duck Lips's boyfriends last five to six months. Sounds like it must take just about five or six months to get a complete picture of the depths of her insanity and hightail it out of there.

Dr. Jenn says the problem here is Teen Duck Lips doesn't have enough compassion for herself. For herself? No, that can't be. I skip back and listen to it again. Yes, for herself.  Dr. Jenn! Teen Duck Lips has no compassion for others. This is why she is a sociopath. I'm no psychologist, but way off base!

Teen Duck Lips judges herself too much. And three, two, one the vocal chords are gone. I can feel like this is about to take a long-awaited turn to her Mommy issues; I'm on the edge of my seat. And here it is: "whose voice is that in your head, where'd you learn that, who taught you that?" Dr. Jenn asks.

Oh, me, me. Can I answer?! This woman's voice?


Ding, ding, ding. Correct. Debra Danielson allegedly called Teen Duck Lips names, didn't love Teen Duck Lips, and tried to manipulate her out of her money. Now, Debra is no picnic no question, but I'm pretty sure she would have a different perspective on the situation. Debra owns more than one home and is a successful businesswoman, she really doesn't need Teen Duck Lips's thousands. I also don't believe she doesn't love her, though I do think she is too impatient and has a hard time expressing her love appropriately. As for the name calling, well, maybe she just didn't know what to do with a sociopathic child who went off and got herself pregnant at 16. I wonder if she felt like the mother in We Need to Talk about Kevin, who noticed something was wrong with her sociopath son from almost the moment he was born, but never really knew how to handle it. Who would? And the way Teen Duck Lips verbally abused her mother while her mother just took it, was outrageous--it's all on film. I think Teen Duck Lips is pretty much saying they're estranged now. Big surprise there.  So many of Teen Duck Lips's issues remind me of TFW's issues, and I also have my strong suspicions that Kate's version of her parents may not be reality. Maybe they were just as frustrated with their narcissistic child as Debra is. Any parent trying to raise someone like this must feel like they can't do anything right, and the thing is, sometimes for people like Teen Duck Lips that's probably true. Shout out to Dmasy on this blog who recommended We Need to Talk about Kevin, and to all the other great literary and film recommendations over the years from the folks here.

I love how loosely tied this all is to the original concept of the show, "couples" therapy. This is more like, "why you can't find yourself in a couple to begin with" therapy. But since Teen Duck Lips is just so darn addicting, the producers are rolling with it. Oh noes, Debra nagged Teen Duck Lips too. Dr. Jenn just cocks her head to the side at that, like pups do.


"You know we're going to need to bring them in here at some point" to resolve this, Dr. Jenn says.


Commercials. I really cannot wait to see Dr. Jenn psychoanalyze the Abrahams all in the same room. This is like I'm eight years old waiting for Christmas morning and it just feels like it will never get here, the anticipation is that great. I hope she comes out on Debra's side.

It's the birthday of one of the lesbians, so they throw a party with a bunch of their friends from the outside. They've even got some people dressed up as mermaids for the pool, which is fun. Teen Duck Lips says she's actually having a good time. I think Teen Duck Lips doesn't have a clue why a statement like that is offensive and certainly obnoxious, and that that attitude is probably why no one likes her. On the remote chance she ever cruises by here, I'll spell it out for her. Saying you are surprised to be having fun implies that you did not expect you could have a good time with the people you are with. And that is mean and hurts those people's feelings. There. I kind of feel like the experts are right, it's probably true that you can't change a narcissist. No amount of explaining over the years seems to help Teen Duck Lips understand, or for that matter TFW. I almost wonder if the only possible way to change them is to have them memorize what is appropriate to say and what is not, like you would middle school flash cards. They wouldn't understand why something is the way it is but they may be able to memorize not to do it.

The lesbians really have buckets and buckets of friends, and they all seem to really love them. That says a lot about the lesbians. You don't need to necessarily have a lot of friends to prove you're a good person, but the friends you have do need to be sincere, and these people were very sincere tonight. In some ways I feel sad for the Duck Lips girls because I doubt they know or understand anything like this.

Later that night, the other lesbian is upset because the birthday girl was flirting with Wu-Tang. Because she laughed and gave him a hug? And Wu-Tang, really? He's such an ogre and is mean to Kelsey. This feels so fake. Just as I predicted the birthday girl is like oh my God even if I were straight I wouldn't be attracted to him! Haha. I really don't believe any of this.

Day 7, and the lesbians quickly make up from their fake fight and are back to being normal and likable. Speaking of suspending disbelief, here goes. Jon is in bed, and Liz walks in and thinks he's masturbating. Jon says he was just scratching. Since they don't really show much, much less anyone masturbating, it's kind of pointless to debate what really happened. What is obvious is this is a heavily edited scene with more than the usual cuts, splices and dialogue occurring off camera. Something doesn't add up. Um, no pun intended.

Later in the day, Jon explains that he was hurt and embarrassed that Liz didn't believe him, and withdrew from her.

This is the moment where I stopped liking Liz, when before I felt like, even though she's rough around the edges, Jon needed someone like her to call him out. But I meant call him out on the big things, not on silliness like this. Liz is way over the top strung out about this. Has she known a man before? Any man. Or boy. Or anyone with a Mr. Happy, who apparently, according to that sex, always wants you to come out and play, worse than even the most annoying kid on the block growing up. Liz even admits she's withholding sex from him. So, it's okay for her to withhold sex from him, but not okay for him to relieve some tension from that in a perfectly normal and harmless way? Would she rather he have affairs? She can't be pleased. Now Liz is cackling and making fun of him, and Jon really looks crushed. What a jerk she is being, what the heck?

Liz claims Jon is being victim and needs to man up. Jon's eye contact and deep hurt make me think he is telling the truth about this, that he wasn't masturbating. Telling the truth is not being a victim, and I don't see what manning up has to do with anything.

Jon says when Liz laughs at him and walks away it reminds him of how his marriage was. Oh, dear, that's sad. But not surprising. The extent of Kate Gosselin's humor is picking on others. She is a bully of the worst kind, and I don't know how he could have missed that before he put a ring on it. It is shocking the way Jon has found himself in yet another relationship where he is so deeply disrespected. No one should have to endure being cackled at except Disney princesses.

Next time, thank goodness Dr. Jenn gets it and is accusing Liz of shaming and emasculating Jon. Exactly.  Now Wu-Tang wants a threesome? Oh good grief, this guy. Kelsey finally snaps and throws juice in his face, cheers!!!

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fidosmommy said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 53m
@MiloandJack I'm the happy dog..Especially after my boys said tonight:'Love you mom. You're the best thing that ever happened 2 me!' #melted
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Nope, nada, nah - that did NOT happen. The only person who will believe it #melted is Milo, so tweet the crap away Kate. 9 year old boys do NOT talk like that, and not in unison, and the way she treats them, especially not hers.

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Maybe ONE of the boys said it, but TFW couldn't remember his name.

Kates neice said... said...

Lauren Wilber ‏@LaurenWilber Jan 23 If my lovely aunt Kate + 8 is gonna have all her press calling us, you'd hope she would call us herself. Jk, celebs don't work that way. ..

Lauren Wilber ‏@LaurenWilber Jan 27 Guess who's back in the media? No, please stop. Your time was over. #leave

Lauren Wilber ‏@LaurenWilber Jan 27 Guess I'm not making it better by tweeting about it, but just stahp. Uh thanks.

Lauren Wilber ‏@LaurenWilber Jan 27 They say 30 seconds of fame for a reason. You don't get to redo it. Hurt our family enough. #okdone


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Gabby2 said...

Something is seriously wrong with this twisted woman that CONSTANTLY needs accolades and worship, even from 9 years olds.

Every damn thing needs to be about how great she thinks she is. She is crippling her boys.

Worse than growing up 24/7 with a drunk abusive parent.

IF this is true and she is not lying, poor poor kids. I remember her saying once how she missed her kids so much when she traveled, then said she told them as she was leaving: "I wish I was you"...weird!!!!

Meagler said...

I am central time but I saw your post as 8:08, so obviously see things here as PST also.

Okay so why does PST get to rule the twiiter and blog world?????? ha Ha!!

Ahh, who cares..sometimes kate is telling the truth, most times she is skewing the truth, or lying by omission. I dont trust her.

I dont think these kids come up with their mommy platitudes out of the blue. I think they say these things in response to prompting from Kate. It is a learned behavior that is self preserving.

Kate likely drills those kids as soon as they get in the door, maybe even before about all things Jon, and asks questions of them that get the response of " you are the most important to us mommy".

Arent we all good, as she dont fool us :) uh uhh, no way... no wool being pulled over our eyes!

gnite! I am posting at 12:07 am time.. way too late :)

Mel said...

Sounds like something a lover would say. Are we sure that Steve isn't still hanging around?
Or are her boys the crew daddies who still hang with the Gosselins?

prairiemary said...

I am sorry, but I have to agree with those who said that the little boys DID NOT say anything of the kind to tfw! No child that old, especially the boys, would EVER say that to her! I grew up with 3 brothers, along with cousins and friends, no way do they talk like that. Even my 3 girls would never talk like that, unless it was Mother's Day or something like that. Especially at their age, and all 3 of them. She just continues to lie. So sad she has to live like that, with the voices she wants to hear are just stuck up in her head.

capecodmama said...

My posts go through on PST not EST. As far as what the boys supposedly said to WOS, not buying it either. My husband and I love our grown daughters, they love us and we have a great relationship with them, but they have never once told us that we were the best thing that ever happened to them. Not once. She is so full of sh$t.

Wowser said...

Anyone else notice that the TFW ass kisser over at Gather appears to be on sabbatical with blogging about all things TFW?? Interesting. Maybe she has finally been enlightened!

Vanessa said...

I know absolutely nothing about narcissists. I've never dealt with one; never known one. Do they ever have emotional breakdowns to the point where they need psychiatric care? Or does their narcissism allow them to put up a protective boundary where they are always right and everyone else is wrong, and therefore they just go along believing that they are perfect and nothing is wrong with them?
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The episodes happen, almost like they have to burp or barf. When they're done, they are fine. And the victims in their wake have to just forget all about it. And that happens a lot to the victim. You say to yourself, during a "good binge" that they arent' "that bad" or you attach yourself to those "good binges" and overcompensate. Bet you one of those boys DID say "something" like that because she either just got over a freakout or she's been in a "good" place for a little while.
Either way, those kids heads are effed up. I doubt she'll ever have a real mental breakdown, she's so entrenched in her lies that the lies will keep her from really ever seeing the truth, what everyone else sees.

Vanessa said...

Kids just aren't this obsessed with their parents at this age. They just aren't.
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No, they are just stressed out robots worrying about saying/doing the wrong thing to piss her off. I'm sure there's just as much of an effort to stay under the radar as there is to say something that will put her in a good mood. She probably exaggerated (or it's what SHE really heard, delusional remember) what he said. Just like they twist your words into something negative to suit their agenda, they will twist your words into something positive to suit it. I'm starting to think she's even more nuts than my own mother.

Upstater said...

Oh, I totally believe those boys said that to her. She's got them wrapped around her finger and they are scared to act like normal 9 year old children. Kids can sense when there's something 'off' with their parents (as I'm sure these last two weeks have been intense for her) and will try to comfort the parent the only way they were taught.

kris said...

I call total BS on the boys saying that. I have 4 kids (2 young adults, a teen & a 8 yr old) and I have a very good relationship with them all. I know they love me and we say it quite a bit but when they are little like 8-9ish, that's just not what they are thinking about!

IF they did say it, it was because when she was yelling at them and feeling unappreciated (because kids do make their parents feel that way at times) - she hollered, 'why can't you mind me? Don't you know I'm the best thing that'll ever happen to you?"

or she's drunk and delusional.

I go with the 2nd, lol.

TLC stinks said...

Nothing like living in a fantasy land! The woman is batshit crazy. I wonder if this is just plain lying or she "hears" voices saying she is the best mom in the world. On the other hand, how sicko would it be that she forces the kids to say such a thing or they get punished? Either way, that house is one hell of a psycho horror house. I hope those kids pour their hearts out to Jon. And I hope more family members speak out.

Susan1956 said...

OT
Good Morning All:
My new granddaughter arrived at 2:45 a.m. She was delivered by my son-in-law on the living room floor at their home.
Mom and baby are doing fine. My son-in-law and the carpet may never recover. LOL.


Tucker's Mom said...

Susan1956 said... 14
OT
Good Morning All:
My new granddaughter arrived at 2:45 a.m. She was delivered by my son-in-law on the living room floor at their home.
Mom and baby are doing fine. My son-in-law and the carpet may never recover. LOL.
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Congratulations! Wow, was this planned a home birth? I'm guessing not since it was on the carpet, but how wonderful everyone is doing great- hopefully SIL will recover soon!

Carole said...

Good morning Susan1956 and congrats to you and the new parents!

Dmasy said...

Susan1956, congratulations. Their family will have an exciting story to tell for every birthday!

Formerly Duped said...

Susan1956 said... 14
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Congrats! What a story indeed. Bravo for your son-in-law! and the mom and baby, and your entire family!

chefsummer #Leh said...

When I was 8-9 all I thought about was me lol and I'm sure my brothers were the same.

I did tell my mom that she was a good mom-(cause she was/is) but at the age I only said it cause I wanted something.

Carole said...

I can totally see the kids saying some of the ridiculous things she tweets. I think she's overcompensating now and piling on the affection and being very verbal w/her brainwashing. (If Jon's going to try to get custody she has to work overtime to get them to want to stay with her.) I can hear her saying to the kids when they returned from seeing Jon, 'you're the best thing that ever happened to me, blah, blah, blah' and the kids repeating her words back to her. I think they know how to keep her mollified and do their best to avoid her wrath.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Susan1956 said... 14

Congrats sorry bout your carpet.

localyocul said...

Kates neice said... said... 2
Lauren Wilber ‏@LaurenWilber Jan 23 If my lovely aunt Kate + 8 is gonna have all her press calling us, you'd hope she would call us herself. Jk, celebs don't work that way. ..

Lauren Wilber ‏@LaurenWilber Jan 27 Guess who's back in the media? No, please stop. Your time was over. #leave

Lauren Wilber ‏@LaurenWilber Jan 27 Guess I'm not making it better by tweeting about it, but just stahp. Uh thanks.

Lauren Wilber ‏@LaurenWilber Jan 27 They say 30 seconds of fame for a reason. You don't get to redo it. Hurt our family enough. #okdone


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Um. WOW. That's awesome. It's also TFW's future when she can no longer control the access of 8 teens to social media.

localyocul said...

I wonder if the niece meant that Kate's PR people are calling them (whats her name, Julie May Carson, instead of calling them herself. Oh my this is awesome

localyocul said...

This was tweeted on the 23rd before the article came out:

Lauren Wilber ‏@LaurenWilber Jan 23 If my lovely aunt Kate + 8 is gonna have all her press calling us, you'd hope she would call us herself. Jk, celebs don't work that way. ..

Im thinking that after TFW got asked for a comment (someone earlier pointed out that these celebs know ahead of time about these articles because they are asked for a comment) and TFW's managers/pr people called the sis to try and get it stopped or whatever. But TFW didn't call her. WOW

Call Me Crazy said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 53m
@MiloandJack I'm the happy dog..Especially after my boys said tonight:'Love you mom. You're the best thing that ever happened 2 me!' #melted
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Meagler - I agree with you that the kids say these things in response to prompting from Kate. I think they did say this, but TFW left out some pesky details. This is how the whole scenario likely went:

Kate (In the kitchen, hands on hips, standing between the boys and a paper plate of cupcakes on the counter): Do you love your mom?

Boys (Eying cupcakes and in robotic unison): Love you mom.

Kate: Am I the best thing that ever happened to you? (Then pointing ☞) You ... You with the glasses. You first.

Aaden (In robotic voice): You're the best thing that ever happened to me.

Joel (In robotic voice): You're the best thing that ever happened to me.

Collin (In robotic voice): You're the best thing that ever happened to me.

Kate: Good. Now get outta here. (Clap, clap) Go feed the chickens. Girls ... come get your cupcakes.

#melted after #boysthrewbucketofwateronher

Call Me Crazy said...

Congratulations, Susan1956!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

TFW is sooooo transparent. "See, my sons love me, too! They want to stay! Nyah nyah nyah!"

It makes me sad to think of how the kids feel when they come back to the house after spending time with their dad. It's very clear (hello, TFW sued him) that Dad is Mom's enemy. So if you've had a wonderful time with him, are you not allowed to talk about it? Do you have to stuff down your feelings and slide right back into mommy-pleasing mode? So spending time with him must come with a high price tag. Almost takes the joy of it away when you know it'll be followed by feelings of guilt and shame.

We always joke about the 6 fans. That's so 2013. I'm going with 4.

Katykat said...

Man, the WOS is so emotionally pathetic and backwards. The best thing a mom could hear is when SHE says, "I love you so much," the child responds with, "I know you do, Mom." Parents are supposed to fill and validate the self worth of the child, NOT the other way around. She is such a mess.

Amanda, Iowa said...

We have 5 kids, 18-27....they say "I love you" , hug me, kiss me, tickle me or even wrestle with me (youngest son is a wrestler) but I cant remember one ever told me that "Im the best thing ever that ever happened". That would just be weird. And since I gave birth to them, didn't they "happen" to me?
So...........they are best thing that ever happened to me, Im blessed!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Here's a suggestion for Kate. When the kids get home ask them hey how was your night with Dad? What'd you do? What'd you have to eat? Ohhh, sounds yummy! Sounds fun!

Be a supportive co-parent, let them know there is nothing wrong with them going to dads and that you're supportive of their time with him and want them to have fun. Stop encouraging them to constantly prop you up and stop pitting yourself against their father. It's just sick.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Lauren Wilber @LaurenWilber Jan 23 If my lovely aunt Kate + 8 is gonna have all her press calling us, you'd hope she would call us herself. Jk, celebs don't work that way. ..


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I take this to mean her family was just sitting there minding their own business, as usual, sad for the kids and the press has been calling them for comment after the latest thing with the twins. Just like we were all wondering what her poor family thought, so did the press. Which is certainly better than her family shopping around their story.

Tucker's Mom said...

localyocul said... 23
I wonder if the niece meant that Kate's PR people are calling them (whats her name, Julie May Carson, instead of calling them herself. Oh my this is awesome
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Yes, I take it that Kate's "people" are calling Kendra. Why??
Well, "hey, let's do a reunions show for $$$$$", or "hey, we'll sue you if you say another word"?

TLC stinks said...

Right, Kate knew darn well about the story coming out. The reporter cites in his article he reached out to Kate for comment. He got zip. Here was an opportunity for her to respond.

So glad the niece tweeted. Proves Kate notified her PR to apply pressure to Kendra. What? Couldn't sue? Kendra wouldn't take a pay off to keep her trap shut?

You see, Kate obviously still employs a media person. Kate doesn't personally inquire about getting on TV talk shows; she lets her agent/PR do that. This woman thinks she is still a celeb. So delusional.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Okay so why does PST get to rule the twiiter and blog world?????? ha Ha!!


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lol! Google runs blogger. Google's offices in what's it called near Palo Alto are on PST, that's why!

I'm surprised though there isn't an option to change the default time for yourself on this blog. I bet there might be. It makes more sense to me too to see time stamps for your own time zone.

capecodmama said...

Call Me Crazy...25 That was good. I can see TFW doing that.

Susan1956...14 Congratulations on your new grandaughter. Enjoy.

TLC stinks said...

Ok, I see it could also mean Admin's interpretation that press was calling friends and relatives for comments. But still, Kate knew it was coming out.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I wonder if the niece meant that Kate's PR people are calling them (whats her name, Julie May Carson, instead of calling them herself. Oh my this is awesome


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Hmm actually now I think it means this, that her people tried to call her to put the lid on it. Pathetic!

Gosh she does everything the hard way. Here's a thought, be nice to your family in the first place and then you won't have to have "your people" call them groveling and begging them not to say bad things. It's just so simple.

Jane said...

So if Kate sent her people to contact her sister, she must have had her family's phone number.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Our experiences look like they're the same as everyone else. The mommy blog forums are just riddled with mothers worried that their young kids 5 to 9 ish, don't say I love you or don't say it very much.

And all the other moms tell them calm down it's fine and normal, they love you.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Jane said... 38
So if Kate sent her people to contact her sister, she must have had her family's phone number.


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Ha, yep. And her niece specifically said they CALLED her. Not emailed, not sent my telegraph, not carrier pigeon. CALLED.

Deanna, you're an idiot and an enabler and I think you lied about that on your own. Or Kate is lying to you. Either one is pathetic.

NJGal51 said...

I can see it all now. When the boys feel like there's going to be a shit storm raining down on them they grab one of their sisters and line up a la Gladys Knight & the Pips and give her a rousing rendition of "You're The Best Thing That Ever Happened To Me".

Susan1956 - Congratulation on the new baby. What a story they'll have to tell!

kids first said...

How long until she sues her sister?

Dmasy said...

I love my son. My grown guy loves me. At the age of nine, a new Lego kit was the best thing that could happen to him!

I was just "mom" -- a constant in his life.

TLC stinks said...

It would be scary to think she would make the kids say such things, but I think it's all just a big, fat lie. She uses Twitter to document and refute her bad press. I feel pretty confident those boys said no such thing. Right now she is desperate to prove she is a better parent than Jon and that the kids want to live with her. If she were to lose custody, her whole shtick of mom to eight would be gone. That would destroy her. Stand by for more of the same on Twitter.

Oh, in response to a poster who watched the Today Show video and heard Mady whisper "sorry" to Kate, I saw that too. Poor girl wants to please mom but is definitely conflicted. I think Cara, on the other hand, just suffers in silence and appears numb.

TLC stinks said...

Maybe the writer of that article should follow up with contacting the niece. Sounds to me like the family was pressured.

And, yes, Deanna is an idiot. . . a paid parrot, er, idiot.

TLC stinks said...

Only my husband has ever told me I am the best thing that ever happened to him.

Ex Nurse said...

Susan1956 said... 14
OT
Good Morning All:
My new granddaughter arrived at 2:45 a.m. She was delivered by my son-in-law on the living room floor at their home.
Mom and baby are doing fine. My son-in-law and the carpet may never recover. LOL.
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Congratulations! My grandson is due in 2 weeks...I can't imagine my geeky son changing a diaper, let alone deliver a baby--give that man a cigar!

Ex Nurse said...

Susan1956 said... 14
OT
Good Morning All:
My new granddaughter arrived at 2:45 a.m. She was delivered by my son-in-law on the living room floor at their home.
Mom and baby are doing fine. My son-in-law and the carpet may never recover. LOL.
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Congratulations! My grandson is due in 2 weeks...I can't imagine my geeky son changing a diaper, let alone deliver a baby--give that man a cigar!

Lalalalala said...

To Susan1956..Congratulations to you!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Only my husband has ever told me I am the best thing that ever happened to him.

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Yes. That's a very adult, mature, complex way of thinking I just don't buy that a 9 year old has the capacity to formulate much less three at the same time.

It would take a very mature 9 year old with a lot of introspection to think something like that on his own.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Lauren Wilber @LaurenWilber Jan 23 If my lovely aunt Kate + 8 is gonna have all her press calling us, you'd hope she would call us herself. Jk, celebs don't work that way. ..
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How funny, guess that missing phone number has been found, hope someone update that Twitidiot Deanna. More to the point, as Kendra is several years older than Kate, I imagine the older of her children are now young adults, and as such have really seen how this family dumping has affected their mother, and other aunts/uncles. No love lost there for Aunt Kate+8.

Congratulation Susan, and yes, sorry for the carpet. Glad everyone is well.

Captain of the Titanic said...

Lauren Wilber @LaurenWilber Jan 23 If my lovely aunt Kate + 8 is gonna have all her press calling us, you'd hope she would call us herself. Jk, celebs don't work that way.

(My first attempt to post this resulted in an error, so I have to try to remember what I wrote. Hopefully, there won't be two versions that get posted.)

My take on this is that the niece was remarking about various media outlets calling and asking for comments on TFW 's recent appearance on the TODAY show and The View. I suspect her thinking was along the line of how the sheeple think TFW can put on a new show anytime she wants, like she has control over these things. I really don't believe that the niece was referring to a PR person calling.

Anonymous said...

So, how long before Gladys starts in on Kate's niece? Hope the girl protects her twitter from the sheeple attacks that are sure to come her way!
-LIN-

JoyinVirginia said...

Congrats Susan 1956! what a story they will have to tell to their child!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I was on Deanna's twitter getting links to her tweets for my new post and I noticed two things.

One, hardly ANYONE replied to her stupid tweets about this story except Milo. In many of the tweets it's just her and Milo back and forth about how awful Kendra is. So pathetic. And how sad to be so used by Kate like that.

In a later unrelated tweet someone was asking about a celeb she worked with and she said he's nice. Then she went on to say something like but many celebs I've worked with are NOT nice even though I thought they would be.

Now at least she didn't mention them by name but if I were a celeb looking to hire her I would think gosh a slip of the tongue and she's mentioning names, and I'd cross her off my list so fast. She is very immature.

Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said...

Provided those kids are saying what she claims they are, when I was 9, I wanted my mom's attention so bad. She was in her own world, trying to appease her violent partner. She had no time for me. I did everything to let her know I loved her ie. wrote cards, drew pictures, bought little gifts with my allowance. I was dying for her affection. I say this because I wonder if Kate is the same as my mom was An ice cube. So self-absorbed and in her own suffering little world. Like I was at 9, they just want her love and can't have it so they fawn all over her.

Mel said...

We all know TFW speaks in code.

The boys probably said, "We HATE you! Why are you so mean and ugly? You don't even look like our real mom! We wanna go live with dad!"

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


My take on this is that the niece was remarking about various media outlets calling and asking for comments on TFW 's recent appearance on the TODAY show and The View.

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That was my first reaction but I read it again and realized she was pretty clear that KATE was having her people call. Especially since she basically said Kate just call us YOURSELF if you want, or are you too big to deal with this on your own? A second read through and I realized no question whatsoever she's saying Kate's people were calling her. The point of the whole tweet was to say Kate thinks she's SOOO big she can't even deal with us one on one. 100%.

And I just love that she proved Deanna is a liar and i DO hope that is sent to Deanna. Serves her right.

Especially since she tweeted that BEFORE Deanna ever made up that nonsense about not having her phone number so there's no way you can say she said that just to discredit Deanna.

Gabby2 said...

When a mother should be building up confidence and providing security for her children, all Twisted Kate cares about is having her kids build up her ego.

This is her lying attempt to tell the public her boys love her more than they love their father. How wrong she is.

Remember the screaming and crying when Jon had to take them back to prison.

I am not sure I have ever witnessed more depravity. People that harm children and animals are the worst of the worst. Who will save these poor boys.

She can take her "A Type Personality" and shove it you know were..... her rationalizations are worthless.

AuntieAnn said...

Damage control list.

Shoka ...check.

Boys... check.

Niece....?

C'mon Kate, NIECE!! Now's your chance!! (snapping fingers)






Localyocul said...

The niece seems to be a teenager . Her tweets are a mix of consecutive Christianity (which makes sense) and snarky teenager. She talks about babysitting and her mom confiscating her curling wand for leaving it on

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

New post about Kendra.

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