Wednesday, January 23, 2013

'Confessions of a Prairie Bitch': Alison Arngrim's brilliant and hysterical memoir on child stardom, and childhood horrors

"I've learned that people see what they want to see and believe what they want to believe."

Little House on the Prairie's Alison Arngrim takes us back to homespun bonnets and one-room schoolhouses and, um, cocaine in her 2011 memoir, a brutally honest, year by year rundown of her unreal reality growing up in Hollywood. Alison was one of the stars of the biggest family television show of the 1970's, and arguably, the most famous pint-sized, underage villain to ever grace the small screen.

Naturally, Angrim had her issues with child stardom, and she spares no gory details. She was exposed to drugs and alcohol from a young age (she was doing LSD at age eight), she worked long hours in brutal heat and uncomfortable costumes and even once fainted in the middle of a scene, and was beat up by other children and called names for playing "the bitch" on T.V. Meanwhile, she was often left alone by her absent parents (also in show business, her mother was the voice of Casper the Ghost and Gumby) to be babysat by her older brother, and says she was molested multiple times by him. She would later become an advocate for children's rights, both on and off the set. (Angrim even came out to Pennsylvania to testify at hearings about reality T.V., spearheaded by Rep. Murt. The inquisition would ultimately result in P.A. tightening its child labor laws, which go into effect this month.)

But ironically, Angrim was part of a production that was widely regarded as very protective of children, even ahead of its time. Michael Landon fiercely guarded the children on set, and the child actors have almost all grown up to be very stable and successful adults, avoiding the typical pitfalls. Coincidence? "Mary" and "Laura" continued to act into adulthood and have families. The twins who played "Carrie" quit acting and went back to high school to live normal lives, both of them riding and breeding horses. "Albert" founded a charity in Los Angeles for troubled children. "Alisha" married a real estate agent and now appears on the Real Housewives. "Willie" is a stockbroker and never acted again. "Cassandra" was a finance reporter for CNBC and now FoxNews.

Oh, and this cute little moppet of a cowboy? Remember sad orphan "James" who ended up shot by robbers?



Yeah, he's this beautiful man now:



Be still my heart!

And of course Alison Arngrim grew up and became an advocate for children, as well as a comedian, and has made a real difference for kids. Here is Arngrim's recounting of how Michael Landon guarded his child stars:


"Everyone always asks if Michael was like a father to me, if he loved me. I have no idea if he loved me, but he went one better as far as I’m concerned. He respected me. Respect is something very hard to come by for child actors. They are often treated as dumb animals or props, objects to be moved about in service of the plot or the other actors. They’re sometimes instructed to do no more than hit their mark and “act cute”. Making silly faces and repeating inane catchphrases is encouraged. In these circumstances, not much is expected of them, and “not much” is exactly what you get. I think this contributes to the rampant lack of self-respect we see so often in ex-child stars and the resulting self-destructive behavior. If you’re never asked to meet a standard, never held accountable for anything, sure, nothing’s ever your fault, but then nothing’s ever to your credit, either. It’s pretty much like you were never even there. This was never the case for any child actor in Little House on the Prairie. Or as we like to say, “Cast of Little House: no arrests, no convictions.”

And I do believe we owe that to Michael."

Lest you think the entire book is yet another tired, depressing commentary on how brutal this industry is for someone so young, Arngrim peppers the tragedies in the book with laugh-out-loud stories and antidotes from the fanciful world of Hollywood circa 1973. In particular, her first encounter with Melissa Gilbert, then a nine-year-old little firecracker (who would later go on to act in dozens of projects and eventually be elected president of SAG), goes something like this:

Gilbert

"She [Melissa Gilbert] marched right in and introduced herself and began explaining things to us, all kinds of things: who was who, who did what, how everything worked. She was filling us in, in no uncertain terms, mind you, as to the way things were around here…
Then came her stern warning, delivered with the intensity of Edward G. Robinson, in the vocal range of Shirley Temple: “And whatever you do, you watch out for that Melissa Sue Anderson. She’s very dangerous. She’s evil, and I hate her.” Now, my aunt could not sit still for this. Melissa Sue Anderson? The girl cast to play Laura’s big sister, Mary? She was a little girl, for heaven’s sake!
My aunt chided, “Oh, honey, you don’t mean that! You don’t really hate her now, do you?” “Yes, I do!” Melissa squeaked. “I hate her, and she hates me. She tried to kill me, you know. And she’ll kill you, too, if she gets the chance!” And then she ran off.
It was as if we were suddenly in the middle of a really bad prison movie with an all-midget cast. We had just been told to “watch our backs” by someone who looked like a talking Holly Hobby doll."

Melissa and Alison became best friends and have remained so ever since.

A must-read, Arngrim's memoir is widely available on Amazon.com, including for Kindle, and even many local libraries.

618 sediments (sic) from readers:

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Jane said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 197
Pity Party said... 193
The Jenner girls are tweeting KT about the movie. Things that make you go hmmm....
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Which ones are the Jenner girls?
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I would think they'd have verified accounts.

Blowing In The Wind said...


Oh, for Pete's sake. How do you explain to your Lights Out Man that you want to take a picture of his bandaged leg to put on Twitter so that a has-been reality star will see?

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I wouldn't want what is attached to those legs, and I bet Kate doesn't either. Ewwww.....

Milo is scraping and scratching for ANY response from Kate. If anything, her bizarre behavior should put Kate even farther from her reach. Kate's caught between a rock and a hard place. She started this nonsense, she encouraged Milo, and she's going to have to figure out how to end it and spare the bunny's life.

Formerly Duped said...

I see Kate has got her 'bog' up on her website and the CC stuff is gone. Isn't she the least bit embarrassed about the firing and what gall to take another bog- job! I don't know what she or the new site were thinking

SwingsandRoundabouts said...

I've been using the "So Hum Mantra" that we practice in yoga class. It really helps me relax, and prioritize what is truly important in my life (as opposed to indulging in stuff that is counter productive).
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Pink, I'll be trying this. I used to meditate daily but lately have gotten out of the habit.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

http://t.co/pu7GYsCB

Milo is a very sick puppy, no question about it.

Suze said...

A Kardashian fan replied to Kate's request for the video she's looking for and the fan included a Jenner/Kardashian in the reply.

‏@MyKardashLoves is the fan and @KylieJenner is the Jenner/Kardashian that was included in the tweet. KylieJenner's account IS verified but she didn't tweet anything to Kate.

No Jenner/Kardashian actually replied to Kate.

Hoosier Girl said...

Just wait for Kate to come up with a "bog" for Cafe Mom's that equates to the 'GlobeGate" fiasco. Any mother worth their salt will realize what a fraud she is.

I'm guessing these Cafe Mom people know NOTHING about what she's written ... both on line and in her journals. All about the hits to their site. Sad.

Suze said...

Is it just me or is the way Kate describes mealtime at her house a little "wierd"? She's used the word "feeding" before and it strikes me as a cold, clinical description (especially the way she lines up the plates and gives everyone the same things) - if that makes sense, or am I being too critical?

"I do plus and minus too! One time I was minus 6 and took on 6..Made dinner feeding feel normal and smooth-all seats filled!"

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I know we are dog people here but I know there has to be cat people here too. For the past three days my neighbor's cat has been meowing a mournful meow all day long and much of the night. I've never been able to catch them home to ask if she's okay. When I tried to sneak around to look for her, I couldn't find her anywhere. But I HEAR her.

I did a google search and came up with very little satisfying answers. Is this just a mating call or something? My dog doesn't seem the least bit bothered by it, oddly. I even looked on the roof and trees thinking maybe she's trapped somewhere.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I see Kate has got her 'bog' up on her website and the CC stuff is gone. Isn't she the least bit embarrassed about the firing and what gall to take another bog- job! I don't know what she or the new site were thinking


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She's thinking see THEY want me, na-na-na-boo boo. It is pretty F-U to take another, very similar bog job.

I believe "bog" has already reached the same fame as mediocre and sediments.

I know very little about Cafemom. Would you say it's a content farm? It strikes me as a bit more serious than the "content farm, we'll sell it as soon as it's profitable to do so" feel of Coupon Cabin.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Pity Party said... 2
Oh okay....I didn't catch that but am not twitter savvy with all the @ here @there and@everywhere.

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Twitter took me forever to figure it out. I still get confused. Unlike most things on the web that just sort of make sense, I find it very counterintuitive. I remember thinking if someone tech savvy like me can't figure this out where does that leave others? I used to be sure Twitter was a fad that would be done within months. I was very wrong apparently.

I still get a little lost who is tweeting whom.

TxBR549Iam said...

Admin, sounds like a cat in heat to me. I remember as a kid we had a stray we fed and watered. One day there was the backyard incident, two cats mating. We ran to Mom, thinking Puddy was in a horrendous fight...she just chuckled and said they'll be fine. lol

I absolutely cannot imagine being a cat breeder before AI.

Wowser said...

Wow!!! She's trying to get her tweetie peeps to buy and send her a movie that she has to have for the kids and they are all chomping at the bit to be the first To serve their queen and then the millionaire biotch has the GALL to say "$50 is way out of our price range!". Wow Kate..,how much do you spend on your nails? Hair? Face lotions? Unbelievable!

localyocul said...

Suze said... 10
Is it just me or is the way Kate describes mealtime at her house a little "wierd"? She's used the word "feeding" before and it strikes me as a cold, clinical description (especially the way she lines up the plates and gives everyone the same things) - if that makes sense, or am I being too critical?

"I do plus and minus too! One time I was minus 6 and took on 6..Made dinner feeding feel normal and smooth-all seats filled!"

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I think it's very strange too. Never heard of "feeding dinner" and I'm from PA. Never heard my western PA friends say it either. Cooking dinner, serving dinner, yes. Feeding, no. It also sounds weird because feeding should be followed by a direct object. Feed the kids. Feed the dog. Feeding dinner sounds like you are spooning food into someone named "dinner"'s mouth

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Formerly Duped said... 5

I see Kate has got her 'bog' up on her website and the CC stuff is gone. Isn't she the least bit embarrassed about the firing and what gall to take another bog- job! I don't know what she or the new site were thinking

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I think Kate using the word "bog" was just a Freudian slip.

According to Urban Dictionary-

Bog:

The process of refusing to believe any logical thought/reasoning and create a theory based on no hard facts. The theory is usualy based on a forum post or a paragraph someone once read which was meaningless and untrue. Even if hard facts are presented to discourage the bog theory or totally falsify it, the individual refuses to accept the truth.

localyocul said...

I guess "dinner" is a direct object in the way she uses it but it's feed what instead of feed whom. I don't know, it's just weird.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Feeding almost has a detached sociopathic ring to it. It removes yourself from this idea mealtime is a shared gathering and bonding time.

Suze said...

Thanks localyocul, I feel better knowing I'm not the only one that finds the term "feeding dinner" a little different.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

SwingsandRoundabouts said... 6
I've been using the "So Hum Mantra" that we practice in yoga class. It really helps me relax, and prioritize what is truly important in my life (as opposed to indulging in stuff that is counter productive).
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Pink, I'll be trying this. I used to meditate daily but lately have gotten out of the habit.

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Wonderful! Glad to read that you will practice meditation again. It's so necessary to take the time to calm our busy minds. I

And we can all use a little distraction once in a while ;o)

Take care-
Pink

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 16

Feeding almost has a detached sociopathic ring to it. It removes yourself from this idea mealtime is a shared gathering and bonding time.

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Vampires feed ;o)

TxBR549Iam said...

It's like feeding the farm animals. Time to go feed, feeding time,....dinner feeding? maybe she brought some chickens in to dine.

Suze said...

Exactly, Admin! I've always felt that Kate was detached from the bonding that usually takes place at family mealtimes. But, that's Kate - eating a different meal than what she serves the kids, standing at the counter while the they ate, etc. Very distant.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Kate's a vampire?

TxBR549Iam said...

Of course she is a vampire, sucks the life right out of ya......She does a great job hiding those fangs amongst those mouth filling horse teeth

Anonymous said...

Oh, for Pete's sake. How do you explain to your Lights Out Man that you want to take a picture of his bandaged leg to put on Twitter so that a has-been reality star will see?
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Wait until he's had lots and lots and lots of morphine?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She actually didn't say it was out of her price range she said she didn't WANT to pay 62 bucks for it.

Of course she doesn't want to pay that kind of money on her kids. Fig and Olive and Nobu for her though is fine. Interesting the way she parses things out like that.

Anonymous said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 23

Kate's a vampire?
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An energy vampire...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 26
She actually didn't say it was out of her price range she said she didn't WANT to pay 62 bucks for it.
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Kimberly Cox ッ ‏@kimx3omg
@Kateplusmy8 I found a VHS copy for 50$


Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
@kimx3omg holy cow! Way outta my range! Yikes!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Oh geez Tweet she did! WTF????

Looks like right after that she admitted the truth is she just doesn't WANT to pay that, not that it's out of her price range. Two different things, Kate.

She perpetuates this idea of a struggling single mom and it is fraud, period.

fidosmommy said...

I'm very sorry Milo's LOM was in an accident and got badly hurt. I hope he has a full recovery and can start bringing her the bowl of vanilla ice cream every night again soon.
I wouldn't wish orthopedic hardware on anyone.
My niece had to have it after a horrible accident and it was miserable.

readerlady said...

Admin -- SOunds like your neighbor's cat is in season. Many female cats start to come in heat around this time of year. That's where all those spring kittens come from.

FYI said...

I saw this twitter conversation between Kate and one of her fans who was trying to help her find the movie:

xxxxx
@Kateplusmy8 You might contact @Disney or @WaltDisneyWorld they might know and tell them your name is @Kateplusmy8 - can't hurt! :))

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
@xxxx @Disney @WaltDisneyWorld lol thx. I don't like to do that&can't really say I do :/. Anon Kindness usually gets the help I need!:)

She doesn't like to do that? How many companies has she included in her tweets in order to get something from them.

Another fan found the movie, rushed out to get it for Kate(said they kept the store open for her)and now Kate is dm-ing her information to the fan.

xxxx
@Kateplusmy8 Theres a store here where I live that has it!!! I bought one a few months ago for my girls, they loved it!

Kateplusmy8
@xxxx do you know, does it still have copies?If so can I have the store info so I can call them&purchase a copy? I'll DM you 4 info

xxxxx
@Kateplusmy8 I will call them an find out, its a movie store but carries alot of the older movies. Give me just a few an I'll let you know

Kateplusmy8
@xxxxx not to put pressure on you, but I'm holding my breath here lol!

xxxxx
@Kateplusmy8 lol well stop holding it! They have one!! They don't do phone orders (they dont take debit cards) Im on my way to pick it up

xxxx
@Kateplusmy8 to pick it up, they close in 5 mins but will wait on me :-)


Kateplusmy8
@xxxx yay! I'll dm you with my info and you give me yours! I'll mail you a check and a surprise! Yay!

I wonder what the surprise will be? An autographed picture most likely. And Kate's going to mail a fan a check? With her bank account number on it?

Improbable Dreams said...

Does Kate not know what business(es) Milo's in, or is she riffing off the fact that Milo's been playing nursemaid to her injured husband?

Kateplusmy8 @MiloandJack omg. I remember those days! Are you nurse firedup? Good luck! Just think: ur rough start in 2013 will be a smooth year end!:)

MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Kate, while I'm away, would U please take care of the man connected 2these? Thanks...LOL http://t.co/pu7GYsCB
2 hours ago from Twitter for Android

Wowser said...

So is today her tweeting party? Or is it grift a movie for her kids day?

Formerly Duped said...

I agree that 'feeding' is what you do for babies who actually need to have food placed in their mouths and to use it now does sound regimented and cold.It doesn't sound like an enjoyable social gathering of a family. I always thought this when Kate uses the word for kids their ages.

Pink. agree it was a typo to say 'bog' but it's too funny to let her off the hook!

Blowing In The Wind said...

I know we are dog people here but I know there has to be cat people here too. For the past three days my neighbor's cat has been meowing a mournful meow all day long and much of the night. I've never been able to catch them home to ask if she's okay. When I tried to sneak around to look for her, I couldn't find her anywhere. But I HEAR her.

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How would you like to have one standing next to your bed at 4:30 in the morning doing that, and continuing, and continuing, until you just wanted to pull your hair out? We adopted a cat...first heat, and I had no idea that this is what they go through. All of our cats had been spayed as kittens. This one came to us as an adult. She's getting spayed when this heat is over. She sounds miserable and in agony, and I'm even more so!

TxBR549Iam said...

"I am your number one fan. There is nothing to worry about. You are going to be just fine. I am your number one fan."

Annie Wilkes from 'Misery'

fidosmommy said...

Cats can be spayed while they are still in heat.
My cat that just died came to me in heat and the vet said to bring her in, it would be fine to have the surgery. No problem.

Jane said...

I'm confused. Kate tweeted she was looking for a movie, one of her twits found it for her and kept a store open so she (the fan) could pick it up and now Kate doesn't want to pay? Is that kinda what went down? These breathless fans make me hurl.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I wish I could get this one spayed. If this is the same one hanging out here last year she had two kittens last year. Ugh. Is a spay at this stage like kitty abortion?

PatK said...

Jane, Kate offered to pay the fan who procured the video for her. Although, perhaps the fan won't accept payment--in which case, Kate's grifting was successful once again.

FYI said...

Jane said... 41

Kate didn't want to pay to $62 to get it from Amazon(via an 3rd party vendor) nor did she want to pay $50 to get in from someplace another fan mentioned.

Kate told the fan that did find it in a store by her that she would send her a check AND a surprise!! Yay!!!

To be honest, if I were that fan I'd want the check first before sending the video. Does Kate plan on paying for the postage also and does the fan have to send her a PPD envelope in order to get the check and her surprise?

I imagine Milo is going to be so upset that SHE wasn't the one to come Kate's rescue.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

This is the first time I EVER recall Kate offering to pay for some freebie someone wanted to give her. Odd.

Improbable Dreams said...

Admin ~ I think the offer of payment is just for show. Repackaged grifting....

Someone even suggested that she ask Disney directly how she might procure the movie, maybe throw in the fact that she's THE @Kateplusmy8. Kate's response?

@pacearly @Disney @WaltDisneyWorld lol thx.I don't like to do that&can't really say I do :/. Anon Kindness usually gets the help I need!:)


Anon Kindness = donated goods, ala: Who me? I can't believe you won't let me repay you. Such a generous grift...er, gift."

Blowing In The Wind said...

Cats can be spayed while they are still in heat.
My cat that just died came to me in heat and the vet said to bring her in, it would be fine to have the surgery. No problem.

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Fido -- mine won't do that. He said to wait, let her go through this heat and then spay her. I'll be first in line at the vet's office when that happens. This is driving me nuts. She's doing it right now, body slung low to the ground, dragging her butt and caterwauling. I hope she's not as miserable as I am. We love her dearly. I just wish she'd sleep through the night. This is worse than having a new-born baby!

Jane said...

PatK and Kate is a Twit - thanks for the update! Kate's certainly become a pro at grifting. And you're so on target, Kate is a Twit - Milo's going to cry her poor self to sleep tonight since she wasn't the one who came flying to the rescue.

Ex Nurse said...

Maybe I will understand this if someone explains this to me r-e-a-l-l-y   s-l-o-w and VERY LOUD.

Why would any company be interested in Kate being related, in any way, to their products when she has spent the last year trying to establish herself as a cheap tightwad? Doesn't it seem self-defeating for someone who wants to make her fortune in television, which is an ad driven media? It is so obvious to everyone that when she endorses something, it is because she is getting something out of it. Who in the world takes her endorsements seriously when she is so insincere and when she has been diminished to a punchline on late night television?

Obviously, the advertisers want their investment to turn into sales. The reviewers may not be getting paid, but the company that owns CM is getting paid big bucks. I just don't see this lasting long or leading to any additional opportunities. Sadly, she will be selling out her kids' privacy just to keep her name out there. And, I guess the kids will get their 15% of $0.00 . Just like before the state stepped in and required 15% to be set aside.

I have always thought that she is pretty well set for life. If the caliber of her legal representation is any indication of the kind of advisers she had, her financial advisers were probably prety good. Most likely, they would have set up investment instruments that will generate enough income to maintain her for life. I hope they did the same for the kids, but, I'm not holding my breath. I know many people think that she is stupid, but, in some ways, she has been very clever. And, I think she had good advice. I just don't think that she is under any real financial pressure.

Ex Nurse said...

Message to LMG--
Pearls before the swine, hon. Okay, that was pretty mean girl. I own it, so that makes it OK, right?

Ex Nurse said...

LMG--
Just to clariy, you are the pearls in this scenario...

Unknown said...

Ex Nurse said... 49
''Maybe I will understand this if someone explains this to me r-e-a-l-l-y s-l-o-w and VERY LOUD.
Why would any company be interested in Kate being related, in any way, to their products when she has spent the last year trying to establish herself as a cheap tightwad?''
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I may be totally wrong, but from what I can figure out, the only reason they are interested in her is that she generates hits to their site. I don't think it matters that most of the hits are against KK, the hits are counted, not the content of the hits.

I think their advertisers pay their sites XXX per hit, and that is where the company gets their money.

If I'm wrong...someone please correct me.

fidosmommy said...

I just saw an ad for QBids (sp?) where a woman is crowing that she gets paid to shop.
A kid excitedly tells his mom that he lost his new backpack AGAIN, and she grins and talks about all the free stuff she gets.

Where's Kate? This looks like an opportunity she's missing out on. Right up her alley.

fidosmommy said...

So theoretically, Kate could just post pictures of herself and get hits on the site? Nice work if you can get it. Paige would be SO pleased.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Remona you are probably right, and I think it's probably not just hits but clicks. They want people coming to the site and BUYING STUFF via the ads.

I bet they are looking for a demographic that is the type that sees an ad and says ohhh shiny and not only clicks on it but buys it. Impulsive gullible types that love four easy installments and don't budget well. Like the sort of people that buy gifts for celebrities.....

Amy2 said...

So Kate has a new job. Give it time, she'll lose this one too. She can't help herself.

Kate has established a pattern of being charming, doing whatever it takes to get the job. Once she has the job she becomes demanding, give me stuff, trips, etc. Finally, the employer sees the true Kate and gets rid of her. It's the arch of how Kate works.

Give it time. This job will go by the wayside also.

Jane said...

ExNurse... 51

LMG--
Just to clariy, you are the pearls in this scenario...
.…

Well said.

And the apologies from some have little worth.

Blowing In The Wind said...

For some reason, twazzup isn't pulling up for me tonight. All I get is a blank screen. Is the tweeting party over?

PatK said...

Blowing in the Wind, it wasn't much of a tweeting party. She popped up this afternoon grifting for a movie she couldn't find. After someone found it for her, she disappeared again.

crolina peach said...

the mad hobbit said... 29

Carolina Peach, too right about those words. I love what the late, great Louis Grizzard once said - In the South, if you are "naked" you ain't got no clothes on. If you're "nekkid" you ain't got no clothes on and you're up to somethin'. lol

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MH, Lewis Grizzard was a treasure. By the by, way to cold to be naked (or nekkid). I'm so far behind in reading. Just saw this and am still chuckling at what you wrote. Have you seen the you tube, "What Southern Women Say"? How true.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Blowing in the Wind, it wasn't much of a tweeting party. She popped up this afternoon grifting for a movie she couldn't find. After someone found it for her, she disappeared again.

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Thanks, Pat...so it wasn't a "party" as such with 150 tweeties gushing all over her? Sounds like she backed out again. Did she say anything at all about a party, or lavish her love on her faithful supporters?

TxBR549Iam said...

PatK said... 59
Blowing in the Wind, it wasn't much of a tweeting party. She popped up this afternoon grifting for a movie she couldn't find. After someone found it for her, she disappeared again.

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I took a peak at Twazzup, nothing but non fans posting to her tl. I believe the twitter party is being held now, a private affair, with new twitter names for the regular fans, Earlier posts= just a joke or held clues...lol, I certainly won't lose any sleep over it.

Improbable Dreams said...

Okay, I seem to have misplaced my super-seekrit decoder ring... Did someone offend or hurt LMG? I hope not.

Jane said...

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http://samuel-warde.com/2013/01/the-west-wing-documentary-special/

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Kate has a new job. Whoopee. It cannot last long, she gets bored easily. And apparently even tho she pays big bucks to lawyers, PR peeps (which is how she got this job I am sure), has Iphones for the twins, 3 cars, gets her hair fried in NYC, took a winter holiday, all this and she still whines that a $50 video, one she really, really wants for the kids, is out of her price range. Sheeple, for god's sake, wake up!
Uneffingbelievable.

Judge much? said...

Damn, Admin, a bit judgmental about the demographic CafeMom is trying to appeal to, don't you think? After all, plenty of people on this blog have ventured over there. Don't think too many said, "Oooh, shiny!". Unless you are trying to appeal to that same demographic. Dare you to post this

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm referring to my speculations about who they may be trying to bring in when it comes to bringing Kate on board. Even their regular readers feel patronized. I can't speak to motivations behind other bloggers they have since I've only stopped by a few times. I don't think the entire site is like that, I doubt that since it's been so successful. I've heard good things about the site otherwise, in particular their forums, and actually I even said I don't think it's a content farm.

franky said...

Still luking..still PO'd

but what has happenned to LMG just gets my goat..ewe

She made one post and said hon, and got attacked for that?

Whe live I hear sweetie, hun, dear..even buddy..no offense taken, because none was intended in the first place..

people need to relax..this is not real llinging awayife..it is blig-life..trolls live to pounce and stir

although a couple did apologise..thank g-d,
and I am not calling them trolls..just bloggers

ok..opening my umbrella, hip boots on..start f

Unknown said...

franky said... 67
''Still luking..still PO'd
but what has happenned to LMG just gets my goat..ewe
She made one post and said hon, and got attacked for that?''
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Good point, franky. My question is why are you complaining about it over here, instead of where LMG was attacked for saying ''Hon''?

franky said...

Remona..
'cause they read here of course..lol..that was a trick question ..right??

I am on my way there..lol..follow me..oh..I just may post..lmao

Melissa NV said...

Remona said -- Good point, franky. My question is why are you complaining about it over here, instead of where LMG was attacked for saying ''Hon''?

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And, Franky, why over here, when you made the comment on another blog that the admin here is afraid of you?

I am so darn confused by all of this. Why do posters leave here, go elsewhere and make derogatory statements about this blog, and then return here?
I guess I'm getting old...I don't understand any of it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Please don't use this blog to trash other blogs or come here to complain about what's happening to people from here who chose to post on other blogs. Rule four has been there for two years and I'm not about to go down that rabbit hole now. Believe me, if we want to get back on track, it is counterproductive to start that game.

This is the only and final warning.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Tx@62 said...

"I took a peak at Twazzup, nothing but non fans posting to her tl. I believe the twitter party is being held now, a private affair, with new twitter names for the regular fans, Earlier posts= just a joke or held clues...lol, I certainly won't lose any sleep over it. "

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It looks like there was no party, other than grifting for a DVD. Some of the reg tweeties (master detective included) tweeted that they missed it. So if there was a private party, they weren't invited! I think, though, this was a matter of Kate getting their hopes up for a party and then not delivering.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Melissa I'm with you, I don't get it either. Nothing about blogs and blogs gives me joy, fills me up, entertains me, makes me laugh, or interests me. If I'm going to participate on a blog, it has to provide at least one of those.

silimom said...

The movie is called "The Girl Who Spelled Freedom". It's not available on eBay. There is a small clip on YouTube.

Kate's grifting aside, it seems like a really inspiring story. The girl, Linn Yann Carroll, who was the title character of the movie is now a pharmaceutical rep in South Carolina and appears to have had a very successful life.

Please forgive my snark, but I bet one or more of the kids is having trouble with spelling and Kate wants to show them the movie to inspire them to do better and to appreciate all she does for them.

Suze said...

I'd love to know what was said in the DM between Kate and the fan who ran out to buy the video for her. Kate didn't want to pay the $62 at Amazon or the $50 somewhere else, but... she neglected to ask the price of the one the fan found. Possible big oops. LOL
If the price was "out of range" for Kate, will she follow through with the deal or will she back out?

Ex Nurse said...

Remona Blue said...
I may be totally wrong, but from what I can figure out, the only reason they are interested in her is that she generates hits to their site.
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Your probably right, and her fanz are probably over there hitting the links for hours on end. Might be the worst thing they can do---if the advertisers are paying the CM company big bucks for the hits, they will eventually expect that to translate to sales. If they are just getting lots of empty hits, she will lose even this ridiculous job.

Sandi said...

Me thinks Kate could use the video "The Girl Who Spelled Freedom" for herself! Bogger, sediments, woah...

LifeinOH said...

What's up people? I have been out of the Kate loop. Someone fill me in? A quick down & dirty?

I loathe this "woman" and "her" entire brand! said...

Linn Yann Carroll (The real girl who spelled freedom) and I actually worked for the same pharmaceutical company. On a business trip, she was sitting behind me on a plane and I heard her talking to a fellow rep about being in a movie. After hearing part of the conversation, I had to turn around to help verify her story. She didn't believe that I knew her from that movie but when I started telling her about the other actors in the movie- she finally believed me. She is an amazing person and absolutely adorable. She even game me a little insight to the making of the movie. We ended up being in the same group during our meeting. I don't know which pharmaceutical company she works for now because our was bought out and most of the people were laid off. I remember telling her that I wasn't a big supporter of kids spending so much time and pressure on spelling bees. She laughed at that and I told her that it all worked out in her case. She used to be a television reporter but went into pharmaceuticals as it was much more lucrative.

Barb Gilman said...

So, what's the over and under of Kate mentioning church today? I wonder how soon it will be before she mentions church in her new blog!

dee3 said...

OK...let me see if I understand this. Kate wanted to get a particular movie for her kids and when some of her fans on twitter mentioned prices to buy it, Kate said they were more than she wanted to pay for it. So then a particular fan said she'd gotten it for her daughters and offered to go and get a copy at the same local store for Kate. And then Kate thanked her and exchanged mailing info with the fan...saying she would send her a check for the movie.

I'm reading the tweets that were posted here....did this fan ever mention what the price for the movie was at the store where she bought it? I'm not seeing it here in the tweets. Is there any indication that it was less expensive than what Kate would have had to pay to just buy it herself?

Unless it was significantly less expensive...why go through all the hassle of having to exchange info, mail a check, etc....when she could have just gotten it herself online at Amazon, etc...with much less hassle?

Am I missing something? Or is the bottom line that KG is assuming this gal will decline payment and send it as a gift?
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@Administrator~
What did your neighbor do with the kittens from this yowling cat? Did they get good homes? It upsets me when people let their cats out and don't make sure they're spayed. I'm not even all that keen on people letting their cats out....unless they live on a farm or something. There are so many dangers out there for a house cat. I've seen some awful things happen to house cats when they were put outside.

Improbable Dreams said...

Melissa ~ Me, too! Doing a lot of scrolling past comments that make no sense to me.

*shrugs*

Seems to me, a lot of this back-and-forth help illustrate the pull quote Admin posted from Alison Amgrim.

People will see what they expect to see, believe what they want to believe.

And so far as I can tell, it doesn't typically work, much less serve anyone well, to try and convince anybody otherwise.

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

Kate is a twit said... 34
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Kate is simply shameless. In her twisted mind, she is still expecting "someone" to pay her way, especially the people who "know how to help her."

For some reason, she believes the world owes her, because she had 8 kids. What millionaire does that?

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

Barb In Nebraska said... 81
So, what's the over and under of Kate mentioning church today? I wonder how soon it will be before she mentions church in her new blog!
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She certainly has learned how to play the "religion" card, but rarely follows through. Pathetic and offensive how she uses this. She should be ashamed of herself.

Formerly Duped said...

OT:

Another good mystery writer: Chevy Stevens.

Gosselin8ComeFirst said...

dee3 said 82

Am I missing something? Or is the bottom line that KG is assuming this gal will decline payment and send it as a gift?
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Bingo.


Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

dee3 said 82

Am I missing something? Or is the bottom line that KG is assuming this gal will decline payment and send it as a gift?
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Bingo.

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Double bingo. She's in an impossible position where she probably doesn't want to be seen as that fan that made Kate pay up. So she has to say oh no Kate please this one is on me. Kate is very cunning.

FYI said...

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but the story the fan told Kate about getting the video just doesn't ring true to me. Kate needs a video, and this fan just happens to find it at a store by her?

The fan tells Kate she will call the store, and 4 minutes later, she comes back and tells Kate they have it. Kate asks for info so Kate can call the store, but the fan tells Kate that the store doesn't do phone orders, because they don't take debit cards and that the store is closing in 5 minutes, but will stay open especially for her. I briefly looked at this fan's tweets and she seems to live in Arkansas(CT). She tweeted that at 4:25pm ET--what video store closes at 3:30pm CT on a Saturday?

Also, it looks like she NEVER has tweeted Kate before this quest for the movie. Whoever pointed out that the fan also never mentioned the price, had a good point. Why not tell Kate the cost and see if it's okay with her before running out to the store to get it?

I could be totally wrong, but some things just don't add up.

To me, something just doesn't add up and I wonder if Kate just got punked.



Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

@Administrator~
What did your neighbor do with the kittens from this yowling cat? Did they get good homes? It upsets me when people let their cats out and don't make sure they're spayed. I'm not even all that keen on people letting their cats out....unless they live on a farm or something. There are so many dangers out there for a house cat. I've seen some awful things happen to house cats when they were put outside.

%%%

Assuming this is the cat from last year who had kittens, I'm realizing now this is not my neighbor's cat officially, just a stray that hangs around at my neighbors.

I asked my sweet neighbor last year, a tiny, beautiful and spunky little old Asian lady, what was up with the kittens and she said yes that cat comes around and that she feels awful but was not feeding it or paying any attention to it to try to discourage it.

The cat last year had the two kittens in the brush between our two respective houses. I made a few attempts to try to capture the kittens but both kittens and mother were quite ferocious and I couldn't get near them. By the time I went in for a third attempt, they were gone, nowhere to be found and I forgot about them until now. I guess our brush is maybe her mating and pregnancy spot and she hangs out elsewhere the rest of the year?

I'm at a loss now. It frustrates me this cat has come back for another year to have more stray cats and I don't know how to stop it.

Paula said...

We have the same problem - we have a "wild" cat that roams around the neighborhood and then each year decides to give birth in the "open" are underneath our deck. Last year we called our local county Animal Services. They came out and took the kittens. We had hoped they would then turn the kittens over to animal shelter to be adopted but they indicated that most likely would not happen. "Wild" cats and kittens do not adopt well. We were upset that the kitten may have faced euthanization.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'd never seen such nasty kittens. A beautiful, adorable grey one and an orange one that looked like normal kittens, but when I got within a few feet of them they turned into little hissing snapping machines that acted petrified of any human contact. I doubt these are adoptable either.

You know it's no wonder there are so many strays. Capturing them and bringing them in and doing anything about them is next to impossible. I have a new appreciation for this. I can't even find this meowing cat and she is practically doing it outside my window. But every time I look, she stops and disappears. It's like a ghost lol.

Loathe, wow what a coincidence you know the woman from that movie. I feel the same about spelling bees, by the way. I think a lot of it is luck, and that kids who get really obsessed with them neglect other aspects of their education. A great documentary is Spellbound. It is a total must see.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Kate is a Twit excellent points. Especially about the time that the store closed, and not mentioning the price.

Another thing, I find it really, really suspicious that the video store in this fan's town just HAPPENS to have an incredibly obscure movie from the 1980s the same one Kate just HAPPENS to want.

So, was the fan just jerking her around to see if she would ask for a freebie?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Saturday is the biggest night for a video store. It's just plain lunacy to close at 3:30 in the afternoon.

NJGal51 said...

How is Kate even going to watch the gritted movie? It's only on VHS tape. Kate said she had a player somewhere but didn't know where it was (thrown away is my guess). Will she now expect the fans to transfer the movie to DVD for her or send her a VHS player? Poor Kate will have the movie but nothing to play it on.

Improbable Dreams said...

The whole thing is weird. What do you want to bet she turns this into a blog post about relying on the kindnesses of strangers?

In the absence of a TV show, turning her private life into a Twitter episode.

Same as it ever was.

dee3 said...

Improbable Dreams said... 96
The whole thing is weird.
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Boy, it really is! I went back through the comments to try to make sense of the copied tweets....is there a lot more to it on twitter that I'm missing? I would never just allow someone else to go to a bunch of trouble for me until I'd first made sure it was exactly what I wanted (including if it's VHS or dvd) and what the price was. Sounds like she let this gal just go and buy it before she was even sure it was exactly what she wanted in the first place.....and then to make an additional issue over price yet not even asked what price this gal would be paying for it.

Sounds VERY strange to me.
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@Administrator~

Ahh...a wild cat. OK, now I understand.

Jane said...

Improbable Dreams said... 96
The whole thing is weird. What do you want to bet she turns this into a blog post about relying on the kindnesses of strangers?

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You called it - bet this is what happens. And, if we really want to get into conspiracy theories, perhaps either she or someone at The Stir set this up so she'd have something to write about - the kindness of strangers, her kids, spelling bees, blah blah.

FYI said...

dee3 said... 97

I was the one who posted that twitter conversation, and yes, that's the whole conversation, except one tweet where the fan said she could mail it to Kate(which was right after she said she'd go to the store to pick it up).

It does sound very strange. Well, Kate followed the person on twitter--so maybe she got more details that way.

The part that is also strange is why did she have to go out and get it right away? If the store was supposedly closing in 5 minutes, why couldn't she have waited until today? The Post Office was already closed, so she couldn't even mail it until Monday and she didn't even have Kate's info yet.

Very weird, very strange...



gabby2 said...

Most kittens can be socialized but it takes time. Even the mothers can come around...I would look up a Spay and Stay cat rescue group and they will trap and spay the female....and any males wondering around. I would keep feeding them and they become dependent on humans.

gabby2 said...

http://www.spayandstay.org/

Here is one group that might help put you in touch with a local group....

Blowing In The Wind said...

How is Kate even going to watch the gritted movie? It's only on VHS tape. Kate said she had a player somewhere but didn't know where it was (thrown away is my guess).

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I've taken several VHS movies to a store and they transfer it to DVD. I hope Kate knows to do the same. Now she'll probably ask fans to find a place in her area that does this.

Did the fan say that this was a video store? We have places here that sell obscure videos. Even some stands at the local farmers market sells them, as well as some eclectic gift/antique shops. Some small pop and pop stores don't stay open on Saturday nights.

But the whole thing does sound very strange. If Kate does get the video, will she pop on Twitter announcing it, and how she's always amazed at the kindness of strangers?

FYI said...

Jane said... 64
DMasy - This website popped up on my Facebook page and, after watching the 4 part documentary, thought you and other West Wing fans might enjoy it. Don't be put off by the website! Both Republican and Democratic leaders are featured:

http://samuel-warde.com/2013/01/the-west-wing-documentary-special/
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Jane-thank you so so much for posting that link. I just watched Part 1, and had to come here to thank you before watching the rest. Very interesting perspective on what it's like to work at the White House.

I also love the clips they have from The West Wing--brings back lots of memories.

localyocul said...

‏@Kateplusmy8
Hi all!Seems I have a cold so it's a down day here,much to my dismay!Being sick is a waste of time!My kids are taking good care of me tho!:)
Details

FYI said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
Hi all!Seems I have a cold so it's a down day here,much to my dismay!Being sick is a waste of time!My kids are taking good care of me tho!:)

Kate just killed two birds with one tweet. First, she has an excuse to not go to church, and second, she has an excuse to not have a tweety party.

"Being sick is a waste of time"? When she was a nurse is that what she told her patients?

I had to laugh at this reply to her-apparently this fan hasn't seen Kate's tweets back in August when the kids were sick:

xxxxx
@Kateplusmy8 try zicam! It really works!

Oregon Quacker said...

I read through tweets yesterday. She is a sham.
Was that her tweety party? There is Tweetchat where tweeters can set up a private chat with multiple tweeters and spammers can be blocked. One opens a tweet with a hashtag then lists names of those who are invited. The party was probably private and held last night between 9 and 11 pm est. as for the slueth not being there according to her tweet, known for her fondness of screen grabs, she was probably not invited.

This morning she tweets that she has a cold. get that Zicam ready or has Zicam ended the grift?

NJGal51 said...

In the Bay Area they capture the wild cats/kittens, spay or neuter them and then release them back to the wild.

The only spelling bee that I ever enjoyed was the 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee.

swimmermama said...

I have been sick in bed with the flu all week. Imagine my disgust when I see Kate complaining that she is sick with a cold and her kids have to take care of her. She has a cold!! I can not ever remember considering myself sick when I had a cold. Seriously, she needs to grow up. Someone send her a whaaambulence.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

franky said... 70

Remona..
'cause they read here of course..lol..that was a trick question ..right??

I am on my way there..lol..follow me..oh..I just may post..lmao

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Sorry, franky, I won't follow you there. Playing games on blogs really isn't my thing. There is no point in jumping from blog to blog, reporting on what the other one is saying. We have a saying here...it's called "talking out of both sides of your mouth."

chefsummer #Leh said...

So now Kate is trying to grift a vhs type?

how much can an old vhs type cost I mean really come on Kate.

she has no shame what so ever.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

Well, Kate has a cold. Why is it that so often either she or one of the kids has a cold or is sick on a Sunday morning? Incredible timing. Sickness means no church, but that excuse isn't going to fly if she keeps using it. She'll have to come up with another one and make it believable.

JoyinVirginia said...

OT about feral cats: I have two friends who both have worked on the feral cat problem. One friends works with a group that identified established feral cat colonies, and they do trap, spay or neuter and vaccinate, then release back to same area. Thinking is that if you remove fetal cats, more will take their place, instead if you neuter and vaccinate the ones already there for rabies, you improve the health and control the population.
Another friend lives in semi rural area and he and several friends feed the feral cats by their local dump and also trap, neuter, and release. He has been able to tame a couple of the cats and later take them in as pets, but it took over a year of consistent effort. Also sometimes a new cat shows up that was obviously a pet and wants human contact. If he can find a home for those, he does. He works with a vet who will give him a discount for services done on the feral cats.
The biggest concern is potential rabies for feral cats, and any wild animals, and then the concern domestic animals and humans could be exposed.
If you see a feral cat, look for a notch cut into the side of the ear. That is how the neutered feral cats are marked, my friends have told me.

meagler said...

So, I had a few extra moments this am while drinking my coffee and wandered away from the home blog to check out what the others are all about.

uh...well...hmmm....

I am glad there are different blogs for different points of views and ways of expressing them. All I can say is " if you dont like what other people are doing/saying on the other blogs, then dont go there"

I think I'll be sticking to this blog. :) It suits my personality!

Guess Kate's fans /twitter party got bumped to the bottom of her list. I am surprised that with her Type A personality, and feeling that being sick is a waste of time, that she doesnt just work right thru it as many of the rest of us do. Thats what all those OTC drugs are for :)

BTW: those that struggle with being sick everyday , please disregards Kate's comments...remember she only thinks about her self....

Oregon Quacker said...

Raising America with Kyra Phillips premiers on HLN Feruary 4. And the show's partner is Cafemom.

Formerly Duped said...

swimmermama said... 98

I have been sick in bed with the flu all week

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Feel better! I know exactly what you mean! A cold is something most moms just grumble at and go ahead with the usual duties of the day and look after the kids too. She is such a baby. Where's her @Zicam? Does she want @Kleenex and @Tylenol to send her freebies?

GiGi said...

How convenient that Kate is "sick" because now she won't have to go through with the tweeting party that was planned for today. Usually you feel a cold coming on and she didn't mention a thing yesterday about feeling bad. She was just all a "twitter" about her nutty fans trying to locate a movie for her. What a tool!

Dmasy said...

Jane -- a huge thank you. I can't wait to watch. Thanks for remembering my TV passion. I will report back to you. Have a great Sunday!

capecodmama said...

Admin...Some people have wild cats, we have wild turkeys. There is a group of 15 that wanders around our neighborhood. Had no idea that turkeys could fly until the dog was let out one day and I didn't see them on the other side of the yard. Up into the trees they went with the dog barking at them. I had to corral the dog into the house so they would come down and wander off. They still come into the yard though. We now make sure we look before we let him out.

What is RWA?

Hope everyone is surviving the cold okay. It was 9 degrees last night but it is supposed to be 50 on Wednesday. Weather is wacky!

JoyinVirginia said...

Jane, Improbable Dreams, Dee, Kate us Twit - I think you are all on to something. The timing is suspiciously convenient, and having a set up like this as bog fodder seems reasonable, something Ms Kreider would do. It will be interesting to see what topics show up in the bog. And yes, I am calling it a bog on purpose. Swampy, mucky, kinda smelly, have to shower when you are finished mucking around in it. Bog.

Jane said...

Oregon Quacker said... 114
Raising America with Kyra Phillips premiers on HLN Feruary 4. And the show's partner is Cafemom.

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Well, well, well ....

Jane said...

Oregon Quacker said... 106
I read through tweets yesterday. She is a sham.
Was that her tweety party? There is Tweetchat where tweeters can set up a private chat with multiple tweeters and spammers can be blocked.
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I don't think Kate's smart enough to figure this out. And would she have to dm or email people to get it set up? It just doesn't sound like her -- she likes the public exposure. Do you have knowledge this happened? Here's info on TweetChat http://tweetchat.com/

Jane said...

Kate is a twit said... 103
Jane-thank you so so much for posting that link. I just watched Part 1, and had to come here to thank you before watching the rest. Very interesting perspective on what it's like to work at the White House.

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I'm so glad you like it!!

Have you watched Sports Night? Sorkin wrote it before West Wing and many of the scenarios (Josh and therapy, Sam and the call girl, the rapid-fire dialogue between Toby and Josh) can be seen in Sports Night. It's as if he's trying out lots of ideas that come to fruition in West Wing. I didn't think I'd care for it - I'm not a sports person - but it's really less about sports and more about the situation, about putting on a sports show, kind of like The Newsroom. I don't want to hog an off-topic platform here. Dwindle has my email address if you want to chat :)

capecodmama said...

OT for JoyinVirginia...I know you love college bball like me. Did you see the Villanova/Syracuse game or the Louisville/Georgetown game? Exciting games and upsets.

I will never understand why organizations bring Kate in to do something. From what I've read in the comments on this blog, CafeMom seems to be successful and doesn't need the hits Kate may/may not bring. She can't relate to any moms in the real world and she's not talented enough to have anything to offer.

With regard to twins...My older brother and sister are twins. They aren't close at all. My brother told me when we were adults that my sister informed him on their first day of HS that he wasn't allowed to talk to her in school as she would "not know him." I was floored. To this day, my brother will not be in the same room with her. Not just for this instance but for several others. I have a younger brother as well and my brothers and I have always gotten along great but my younger brother doesn't get along with my sister either. My sister and I get along fine but I also know to visit with her without any other family members around. When she's in a family group, WWIII seems to break out.

Formerly Duped said...

Joy- Maybe I missed your explaining this but why do you never use KK's first name? Just curious! :)

fidosmommy said...

The part that is also strange is why did she have to go out and get it right away? If the store was supposedly closing in 5 minutes, why couldn't she have waited until today? The Post Office was already closed, so she couldn't even mail it until Monday and she didn't even have Kate's info yet.

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Don't you know that this movie is now THE movie
to snag at the video store. If the fan didn't grab it NOW, it would be gone by morning. Since Kate wants it, everyone wants it, right? snark.

I find it odd that this particular store had TWO copies of it and ebay has none?

Ingrid said...

Oregon Quacker said... 114
Raising America with Kyra Phillips premiers on HLN Feruary 4. And the show's partner is Cafemom.

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Wouldn't surprise me if she has been filmed for it or atleast an arrangement to be on it. Gag.

Wowser said...

Not to sound ignorant (although I am somewhat computer challenged) but can someone tell me what it means when Kate says she will "DM" someone information....

NJGal51 said...

This is from the Raising America site. Kate's name is not on the list of influential parent bloggers but my guess is she wants it to be and that's why she took the bogging job. Se wants to "own that mic".

We have a diversity of voices joining our show. Our family of contributors includes the most influential parenting bloggers. Stop by their site and let them know how excited you are about the show! See you on Monday, Feb. 4!

Heather Armstrong, @dooce
Charlie Capen, @HowToBeADad
Tom Matlack, @Tmatlack
Lisa Hickey, @lisahickey
Krystel Spell, @Armywives101
Julie Cole, @juliecole
Jill Smokler , @ScaryMommy
Denise Albert & Melissa Musen Gerstein, @themoms
Sharon Vinderine, @PTPASharon
Lamar and Ronnie Tyler, @blackandmarried
Lindsay Ferrier, @SuburbanTurmoil
Liz Gumbinner, @CoolMomPicks

Jane said...

Wowser said... 124
Not to sound ignorant (although I am somewhat computer challenged) but can someone tell me what it means when Kate says she will "DM" someone information....

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DM is a direct message on Twitter. A way to correspond privately, like an instant message on your phone. On Twitter she'd need to follow the Tweeter and Tweeter needs to follow her in order to DM.

librarylady said...

Oregon Quacker said... 114
Raising America with Kyra Phillips premiers on HLN Feruary 4. And the show's partner is Cafemom.

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Well, well, well ....

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Hmm, I think we have a winner here.

I saw a promo about this show awhile back, but didn't realize that the whole idea of the show was to have bloggers as the main contributors. And somebody is now suddenly a "bogger" again...(although I just made a typo and put "booger", lol)

It's going to be on at noon so at least I won't be home and tempted to watch whom I think is going to magically appear...

FYI said...

Both the Stir and Cafemom have FB pages. I find it kind of interesting that neither of those pages have any mention of their newest "blogger". The only thing the Stir did was to tweet one time about it. Doesn't seem like they're really trying to promote her much.

FYI said...

Jane-I have never watched "Sports Night", but maybe I'll check it out on YouTube. I don't watch The Newsroom, mainly because I don't have HBO.

I always like Aaron Sorkin's style. "A Few Good Men", which was based on his play and which he later wrote the screenplay for, is one of my favorite movies.

Oregon Quacker said...

Jane, I do not have personal knowledge of what may or may not have occured last night. I do know about tweetchat and maybe someone else set the tweetchat up for her, it is not hard to do. Her twitter feed was very strange between 9pm and 11 pm, none the ruglar fans, all nonfans except for one or two non regulars. Like everyone, I can only speculate.

As for Kyra Phillips as a mother of twins along with her integrity as a jounalist, I don't see much talk of KG in the future. imho Of course, one never knows when it comes to tv.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Oregon Quacker said... 114

Raising America with Kyra Phillips premiers on HLN Feruary 4. And the show's partner is Cafemom.

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And of course Kate will try to weedle her way into an appearance on Raising America...

Wait 'til they get a load of Kate, Skeeve and list of demands- hahahaha!

Poor unsuspecting fools.




Jane said...

Oregon Quacker said... 134
Jane, I do not have personal knowledge of what may or may not have occured last night. I do know about tweetchat and maybe someone else set the tweetchat up for her, it is not hard to do. Her twitter feed was very strange between 9pm and 11 pm, none the ruglar fans, all nonfans except for one or two non regulars. Like everyone, I can only speculate.

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JoyinVirginia said...

Capecodmomma, I saw Georgetown/ Louieville game, it was great! I listened to the end of game between LaSalle and VCU. LaSalle beat VCU and Butler in the same week, they are on fire! Love that NCAA basketball! The players are so good, the games are so energetic and unpredictable!

Formerly Duped, I know people IRL named Kate, I don't want the name to get a negative association in my head. And Ms Kreider divorced Mr Gosselin so using her prior name seems logical to me.

Formerly Duped said...

Joy- aha, I get it. I agree she is annoying to keep Jon's 'mediocre' name only because it is what their fame was built upon. I hope you didn't mind my question !

Jane said...

Kate is a twit said... 133
Jane-I have never watched "Sports Night", but maybe I'll check it out on YouTube. I don't watch The Newsroom, mainly because I don't have HBO.

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If you have a Twitter account, you might enjoy following @sorkinese

Oregon Quacker said...

Will anyone be watching the SAG Awards on TNT/TBS tonight? (not the KG kind of sag-ging). Dick Van Dyke will be honored.

Jane said...

Oregon Quacker said... 140
Will anyone be watching the SAG Awards on TNT/TBS tonight? (not the KG kind of sag-ging). Dick Van Dyke will be honored.

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Yes, and will record Downton for another day.

I'm here sporadically depending on my work schedule and apologize if you're a regular but I did want to say hi and, if you're new, welcome.


Anonymous said...

FYI Jane (and others), you can watch Downton Abbey on the PBS website. They have all the episodes that have aired so far.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

They also replay them on PBS you just have to search for them. I missed the last two but found both of them reairing this weekend.

Oregon Quacker said...

Jane, I thank you for the welcome. I read here, just not a big poster as usually my thoughts arrive through others. I joined in today to add a bit. I know about those work schedules!

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Jane, I do not have personal knowledge of what may or may not have occured last night. I do know about tweetchat and maybe someone else set the tweetchat up for her, it is not hard to do. Her twitter feed was very strange between 9pm and 11 pm, none the ruglar fans, all nonfans except for one or two non regulars. Like everyone, I can only speculate.

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But there were a few regulars who tweeted at that time that if there had been a party, they were sorry that they missed it. If a tweetchat had been held, then they weren't invited, including the Master Detective.

Jane said...

http://www.fox.temple.edu/posts/2013/01/reality-tv-stars-to-address-temple-students-about-legal-aspects-of-reality-programs/

Jon and others to speak at Temple U tomorrow.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

If anyone in the area is able to go to Philly for this panel let us know. Sounds interesting.

That cat is still meowing...poor thing.

Just Down The Road said...

"If anyone in the area is able to go to Philly for this panel let us know. Sounds interesting."

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I'd be interested in going, but we're expecting really horrible weather tomorrow -- an ice storm, snow, sleet, freezing rain. I'm wondering if they will cancel if it gets too bad. Depending on conditions, I may just go. This sounds like something I'd really like to attend. Thanks, Jane.

Anonymous said...

Please go to an animal welfare place and get a humane trap for that poor kitty. Take her in somewhere. Those kittens can be saved!!

fidosmommy said...

Just down the road, I hope you can go too. But whether you go or not, stay safe if you have to drive anywhere.

fidosmommy said...

This is what I would call a feather in Jon's cap. The focus is on a specific subject - legalities - and not just an open mike with Jon talking about Jon. Seriously, can you picture Kate speaking at an event like this? I can't.
I think it speaks very well for Jon.

Meagler said...

Apparantly one of the Jon haterz posted a telephone number to the college that Jon is speaking at tomorrow and encouraged people to phone and complain about jon so they wont let him speak. Then it was quickly erased. I never saw it, but it is creating quite the stir on twitter.

I think anyone trying to stop either kate or Jon from doing any kind of work that does not involve the children is uncomprehensible.

Rep Murt's new law, is that in effect already? And are there any other states left that do not have laws in effect to protect Chlldren in media both reality and otherwise?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

That's insane. This is a panel on an important issue. Both Kate and Jon should be free to discuss it without harassment.

capecodmama said...

Read the article about the Temple University forum with regard to reality tv. Sounds interesting. Hope someone is able to go and let us know how it was. Jon looked good in the photo that was used in the article. However, don't know if it was a recent photo.

Just finished watching Downton Abbey. No spoilers from me.

FYI said...

The one who apparently encouraged people to call the University is one of the most rabid Jon hater.

If you read the article, the person who is moderating the panel is Chris Cabbot who is a professor at the University and is also a lawyer who represents the panelists. Does she really think calling them would make a difference? She only did it because she claims that's what the haters do to Kate. From the article:

Christopher Cabott, a Fox School of Business Legal Studies instructor and an entertainment, sports and media attorney with the Law Office of Lloyd Z. Remick/Zane Management, will moderate the discussion. Guests are expected to include:
◦Jon Gosselin, Jon & Kate Plus 8
◦Kijafa Vick, executive producer of The Michael Vick Project
◦Dana Herbert, winner of Cake Boss: The Next Great Baker
◦Reid Rosenthal, The Bachelorette; Bachelor Pad Season 3
◦Carmena Ayo-Davies, owner of 3BG Marketing Solutions

Cabott, who represents the panelists, brought Phillies shortstop Jimmy Rollins to the Fox School during the 2011 Law Week for a discussion with students about Jimmy Rollins Entertainment Group, which represents artists and publishes songs.

I remember when Jon had a twitter account he mentioned Chris Cabott and Zane Management as representing him.

All I can say is good for Jon. I doubt he will be writing a speech in the car on the way to the event like his ex did when she spoke at one of the Penn State outlets.

Improbable Dreams said...

I think it's interesting that no one's commented on the article itself (about Jon's appearance).

Appropriately so, but still. It's not like some to be so civilized.

GoForIt said...

If even one kate fanatic calls to complain about Jon, it will only prove one thing. That reality tv is very bad. It can damage lives and reputations YEARS after the show is gone. I hope they do call. I thinl kate's fanatics are the most mentally-unbalanced and evil being on this earth. PROVING it to others is easy when they just act naturally.

FYI said...


xxxxx
@Kateplusmy8 My first child is three days over due. Any suggestions on going into labor?

Kateplusmy8
xxxxx raspberry tea! They say it works! :) good luck!

What is with these people asking Kate questions like this? Don't they have doctors to ask? And why does Kate always respond with some answer-rather than saying "Sorry, can't help you-check with your doctor".

And to top it off--the person asking Kate is the father, not the woman who's having the baby!!

You really just have to laugh sometimes at what she tweets and who she tweets it to.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

If you go be careful, Just Down the Road!

fidosmommy said...

A panel discussion would be a laid back
environment for Jon, and I'm sure he'll do very well. He'll have other people's comments to
respond to, as well as the moderator's or the audience's questions.

Just curious if this is a paid appearance. It would be icing on the cake if it were both
educational and non-paid. But that is probably
going beyond what one might expect when the man's got bills to pay. Either way, I think it's wonderful he's been given this opportunity.

FYI said...

I'm not sure if the event is open to the public. The article states:

The Reality TV and the Law panel is open to the entire Temple community.

Wouldn't that mean that it's only open to people who have an affiliation with the University, such as professors, students and employees?

Meagler said...

Sadly, both Jon haterz and kate haterz have made calls in attempt to undermine both their work, and even the employment of fans. Its wild, scary, and insane!

Kate does need to make a living, most people here would not deny that, but it needs to be done of her own merit and not off the backs of her kids. Even if she was to blog about the hilarity and antics of raising sextuplets and twins she could do it in a respectful manner, not name kids, and have some boundaries. There are topics that are taboo.


fidosmommy said...

One general comment about appearance. When will the fad of greased up, scruffy, spikey hair go out of style? Soon? Please?

capecodmama said...

So a sheeple wants people to call the university to complain about Jon's participation in a discussion with which he is familiar. However, it was okay for Kate to talk at Penn State about who knows what. I think the sheeple need to be reminded about a few things as they seem to think Jon is the enemy.

Without Jon, there would be no Jon&Kate.

Without Jon, there would be no Plus8.

Without Jon, there would be no successful TV show called Jon&Kate Plus8.

Without Jon, there would be no high profile divorce that catapulted their Queen into the stratosphere.

And without Jon, Kate could not carry Kate Plus8 and it was a flop.

So remember sheeple, without Jon, there would be no Kate as you know her today.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Usually it's not a problem to just walk in to something like this as long as you don't announce hey I'm not a Temple student! I never went to a single university "students only" event that checked university IDs. Another alternative is to simply ask if you can attend, they may just say no problem. I doubt the public is banging down the doors for this one. This is a niche issue that would mostly interest nerds like myself :).

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I have no problem if someone wants to say well I don't like him speaking at this (even though, being involved with one of the biggest reality T.V. lawsuits of our time, it seems to me he would be a good addition to the panel.) Heck I have no problem if someone wants to leave a comment saying so. But to take the step of CALLING the university is just freaking insane. There's a difference between sideline comments about something that interests you, and actually inserting yourselves into their lives by actively trying to roadblock things that person is doing. That is stalking, period.

Just Down The Road said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 158
If you go be careful, Just Down the Road!

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I hear you! I can deal with snow, but not so much with ice. I'll just have to wait and see what falls from the sky and in what form. The topic for this forum really sounds interesting, and I'd love to go. The article reports that it's open to the entire Temple community to which I belonged several years ago, and I have friends who are members of the faculty there so I should have no problem with admittance "credentials." It doesn't sound like this is a public event.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Cool Just Down the Road....BE CAREFUL.

With ice, remember there have been deaths in PA from falling branches over the years. On college campuses with old trees especially. Never been to Temple so don't know the layout.

FYI said...

I wonder if they'll discuss PA's new child labor law. It was signed on Oct.24, and effective 90 days after signing, so the law is now in effect. I was able to find an actual copy of the new law--not the one that we saw in October that showed items crossed out.

Someone asked if the law had a name such as the Gosselin law. No, it is simply known as the Child Labor Act.

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/US/HTM/2012/0/0151..HTM

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Someone asked if the law had a name such as the Gosselin law. No, it is simply known as the Child Labor Act.

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The media was dubbing it Jon and Kate's law for awhile. I don't think it was ever official though.

I would think this panel could spend the entire time just on Dance Moms up the road in Pittsburgh. Pennsylvania randomly has been center stage for two of the biggest reality shows involving children. These kind of current event panels I used to just love. Sometimes I really miss being around all these sort of things happening on a college campus. Always something interesting going on.

FYI said...

capecodmama said... 154

The picture of Jon accompanying the article was take last June when Jon appeared at a press conference with Rabbi Shmuley. If you move you mouse over the picture, it says that where it came from

Suze said...

Sure sheeple, by all means, call Temple and complain about Jon being on the panel. LOL

What are they going to use as their reason? That he doesn't see his kids as often as he 'should', that he doesn't pay child support, that he has a girlfriend, or any of the other ridiculous things they hate Jon for? I mean, who better than Jon to talk about personal experience with the legalities of reality tv?

Go ahead, sheeple, call and show your maturity and class to the TU professionals who are hosting the discussion. Stupid sheeple.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I doubt anyone is even manning the phone at Temple on Sunday anyway. And the odds that they would actually be able to get through to anyone in charge of this event are slim. Even if they did what do they expect to happen? Oh yeah you're right Jon is a deadbeat therefore we are going to kick him off the panel? LOL!!! The ego to think that anyone would care what some nut who makes a phone call thinks.

He's not DOING anything wrong. Anyone is allowed to join a panel and speak about their experiences. How does this hurt anyone?? It's insane to try to stop college students from discussion on an important issue in that state. Insane.

Ex Nurse said...

Admin said...
There's a difference between sideline comments about something that interests you, and actually inserting yourselves into their lives by actively trying to roadblock things that person is doing. That is stalking, period.
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That is pretty much how I feel about the haterz that dwell and feed off of Kate's twitter account. I know that others have also said this--I became involved with this blog because the sociology (and psychothapy) is interesting. But, once the people who are observing and voicing concerns start interacting with the fanz, the whole dynamic has changed.

We will never know for sure, but IMO, if there wasn't the hand to hand combat on her twitter account, I think she would be long gone. To 99.9% of the public, Kate is gone--she is a punchline and a footnote. I guess if I was addicted to the drama and negative interaction with a has-been reality star's few remaining fans, I wouldn't admit it either. I think that their obsessive interactions are, as you said, stalking.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Ex Nurse I agree and I think a lot of people here would too, I know a lot have said so.

I have never tweeted Kate or her fans and never will. Never.

Starz22 said...

I would try trapping the mom cat...once you got her it wouldn't be too hard to get the kittens. Mom cat needs to be spayed so this cycle stops. If you take mom cat in,they will most likely put her down,if you'r not willing to take her back and set her free. She'd still have a shot at life without having more feral kittens. The kittens will come around sooner than you think....if you have the time to give them. If not ...trying putting an ad in the paper. I have had good results with that.
It breaks my heart knowing this could come to an end if people would have their pets spayed or neutered.
I always said if I was to ever come into any money...I would hook up with as many shelters as I could OFFERING to pay people to bring in cats and dogs for spaying and neutering...I don't care if it was their pet or not...Bring in a cat and get 30 bucks...bring in a dog and get 40 bucks. Payment after you came back for the animal you brought in. I don't care if they drove a mile down the road and ditched the animal...at least it would bring down the stray and un-wanted pet population.
There is a good program that takes spayed and neutered feral cats and finds farms for them to live on. As much as I think every animal should be in a home with loving parents....we know its not reality.

People are cruel and don't think twice about ditching a pet they no longer want...People are greedy and want money.So like I said....I don't care if the same person brings in a cat or dog every other day just to get the cash. The animals would win in the end.
People are to blame for the suffering of so many un wanted "pets" People should be the ones to fix it.

Sorry...off my soap box now...but this issue just pisses me off.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I don't know how I am supposed to trap her when she is so stealthy! Now she's disappeared again, not a peep right now. I have never seen her except last year when I saw her kittens and her. Last year I called the humane society about some feral kittens in the bushes of a Catholic church thinking they would take them and they flat out told me they would put them down.

Feeling depressed about this. This cat is definitely wild and would be horrendous and dangerous to try to catch. Plus I can't bring her inside, I have a dog.

Starz22 said...

If you could catch her in a live trap...take her to the vet..tell them you wanted her spayed and will take her back home. They should do it.When you get her spayed,set her free back into the neighborhood she's used to.
You would have given her a shot at life without producing more unwanted kittens. And....her crying for a mate will stop.

I have done this with so many cats. I hate to see them without a home,but they have a right to live.It was their owners that did this to them. I have so many cat's that come to my house looking for food....I always keep food for them...trap them when I can...if I cant find a home for them after seeing the vet I set them free (if they are healthy).
I know how much it tugs on the heart strings....I wish I could keep everyone that came to my door.
Again....this is why humans piss me off so much.

Ulyssia said...

There are humane cat traps from the SPCA. How about calling them for a start?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Thanks Ulyssa there is one apparently 20 minutes away, will give them a call in the morning!

just my opinion said...

People calling to protest Jon's speaking engagement is no more or less worse than Kate's haters calling companies about her.

Do you think her firing from Coupon Cabin did NOT have even a little bit to do with all the hateful comments?

And people contacted that guy who ran the 'charity' fashion show demanding to know whether Kate was given free travel and acoomodation.

Good for the goose, good for the gander. I think Jon is slightly pathetic myself. Of course, comparing him to Kate he's an average guy. That woman is pure evil.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I don't really see the difference either, although no one here indicated they were calling CoupanCabin that I recall, or tried to organize campaigns to get her fired here--I wouldn't have allowed it. I am aware that some people were probably contacting them, but it wasn't started here.

I do question though if any of that had the slightest role in her firing. Scott's long letter was VERY clear it was Kate's own actions that were the reason she was fired. He could have thrown in a line about how the public has spoken and you overwhelming have indicated you don't want Kate on board. He didn't. His letter is literally line by line all about what KATE did, herself, to get fired. He talked about things she did and her entourage and how she didn't fit in--I don't see how they had anything to do with phone calls. He didn't say a word about any discontent from the public. I found that interesting. To me that says if they did get a lot of backlash, they ignored it.

The thing is, they probably got nasty comments about Kate from day one and I'm sure they knew they would. It wasn't until a year later and whatever it was she did they finally fired her. I think had the comments contributed to it, they would have fired her within a few months, not an entire year. That said, I don't think it's appropriate to harass that woman to the point of contacting her employer. Same with Jon. It goes both ways. There are perfectly appropriate channels to express frustration--in CC's comments (and now in Cafe's comments) and in Temple's comments. If people must, they can turn there. But to call the employer is nuts.

just my opinion said...

I never said anything about people PHONING CC. I specifically said 'comments'. Which people would see had you posted my opinion.

WTH??

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I did post your comment. I see it. Try refreshing?

I misunderstood. I guess we do disagree then. I don't have a problem with people dropping negative comments, as long as they are respectful, when someone has invited comments. Both Temple and Coupon Cabin and Cafe have INVITED comments. They are free to delete if they want, or they are free to remove the option to comment. Simple as that.

I do have a problem with interrupting professors or employers with phone calls or emails. No one invited that kind of absurd and invasive contact and it's too much.

Still don't think CC fired her because of comments or they would have done it long before. Scott explained exactly why she was fired, and didn't say anything about bad comments.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Wait....now I'm confused, you said calling in your post.

"People calling to protest Jon's speaking engagement is no more or less worse than Kate's haters calling companies about her."

This part I agree with. If someone invites comment by opening up something to comments, fine. Unsolicited contact though is way beyond my comfort zone, agreed.

Of course, speaking out because children are being exploited it another matter in my opinion. For instance, I wouldn't have a problem with someone calling an advertiser if the kids were on TV to discuss their concerns about what they are supporting. I have never done it however. But the example you cited, a charity fashion show, didn't exploit the kids so should be let be.

That said, I really don't recall anyone here talking about calling, and I have many times specifically said we don't support that. It does seem to happen in other circles though.

just my opinion said...

The wording is my fault. Sorry. I meant the comments people make at the CC sites. I agree that PHONING someone's employer is crossing the line.

I wonder if these people that say they phoned are full of crap. I don't think anyone has the nerve (at least I would hope not) to actually make a phone call.

Then again, it takes all kinds.

Sorry for not seeing my post. I hear rumours that you don't post some comments and thought mine was one of them. My apologies.

Cup Of Joe said...

Opinion said...

People calling to protest Jon's speaking engagement is no more or less worse than Kate's haters calling companies about her.

Opinion then said...

I never said anything about people PHONING CC. I specifically said 'comments'. Which people would see had you posted my opinion.

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Isn't CALLING the same thing as PHONING? Isn't CC a company? Therefore, CALLING a company (first post) is the same thing as PHONING CC (second post).

Jane said...

Jon's more qualified to speak on understanding the legalities of making a reality tv show than Kate is to discuss parenting. In fact, Jon should be the one blogging. A single, divorced dad trying to hold down a job while raising 8 kids who have a shrew for a mother. That's a blog I'd read!

Jane said...

just my opinion said... 180
People calling to protest Jon's speaking engagement is no more or less worse than Kate's haters calling companies about her.
Good for the goose, good for the gander. I think Jon is slightly pathetic myself. Of course, comparing him to Kate he's an average guy. That woman is pure evil.
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I don't think either is right - they're both entitled to make a living. What a fan did, is post the phone # of the college and tell fans to call and defame Jon with the hope that he'd be removed from the panel. Who knows if he's even being paid and if he is, it's probably not much. But here we see Jon doing a job that doesn't exploit his kids - as far as we know, he's not dragging them to the college and putting them on display. Unlike Kate who was planning on putting the kids out there for those on a cruise and who consistently refers to them as a way to promote herself.

swimmermama said...

Just read that Bethany Frankel is writing a book about being a single mother!! She is not even divorced yet. I used to really like Bethany, but now it seems that she will attempt to cash in on anything.

Ladybug said...

I agree with getting the trained people to assist in catching wild animals. It's a shame when you get bite or scratched and can't catch them to have them observed and end up having to get the rabies vaccines. Been there with friends.
I know I don't get a chance to post much. I seem to spend my little spare time catching up with reading and by the time I catch up posts have moved on, so my comments would not make sense. I've enjoy Downton Abbey. Glad to not have had to live in those times.
I too have a Ruku box and tend to watch my shows via a service provider. Less worry about missing out on an episode due to work.
No time to dally today.
Hope the recent saga will soon be a distant memory. Really hate sandbox politics and vindictive people with more time then common sense.

Winsomeone said...

"Jon and others to speak at Temple U tomorrow."

I hate to sound mean, but when does this man work? He surely isn't getting paid for this, is he?

Winsomeone said...

"If anyone in the area is able to go to Philly for this panel let us know. Sounds interesting."

The panel may be interesting, but for myself, I have always found Jon to be a poor speaker, in content and delivery.

dee3 said...

Ex Nurse said... 173

I know that others have also said this--I became involved with this blog because the sociology (and psychothapy) is interesting.
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I became involved for the same reason....the sociopathy aspect and also the whole dynamic of reality TV. The Gosselin saga has been a very compelling story. But my involvement has been pretty much limited to commenting here (and at Moon's site prior to this....quite a few years ago).

And I'm a very non-confrontational person and would not want to lock horns with any of the really zealous fans. A few of them are downright scary....and I avoid these types of situations in real life also. I just don't have the personality for it...at all. I get upset if I think I've upset anyone else.

And of course, I have a more positive slant towards Jon...but I think that participating on a panel discussing the legal aspects of reality TV is much different than...for example, Kate's new blogging job. I'd love to see Kate participate on a panel like this....actually contribute to a discussion about something other than herself.

Whether Jon was a role-model husband or not has absolutely nothing to do with his ability to participate in and contribute to a discussion of the legal issues r/t reality TV......whereas whether Kate was a role-model mom or not DOES have something to do with blogging about her madcap life as a single mom.

I'm glad Kate got the CM blogging job. Let' see if she can really put in the work and the effort and make something of it. I'd rather see her be a blogger than be a nurse, quite frankly.

Unfortunately, due to her unique personality/sociopathy issues, I know it isn't likely to happen....but I just wish she could take the fake mask off and be REAL for two minutes. Stop being like the prom queen from 20 years ago still dancing around with her crown on in the land of fake rainbows and unicorns. I think that's what really irritates people...the fakery....take the crown off already. Acknowledge the fact that there are other people and other events in the world besides you.

Yeah, I know...she just isn't capable of that. And it's too bad because if she could, she could probably rehabilitate herself.....but she'll fake it all the way to the end.

Oh, and I recognize the name of one of the parent bloggers from Raising America listed in one of the prior comments...from my foray/detour into the world of mommy-blogging. "Douce" is apparently one of the top 2-3 mommy-bloggers in that blogosphere. I recognized that name immediately.

JoyinVirginia said...

OT: finally went to see Argo last night. Great movie! I can see why it is winning so many awards. I do like Lincoln better, just because I know how much effort went into making that as historically accurate as possible. OTOH, Argo took a true incident and crafted a thrilling film, and for the first time I can understand the roots of the rage that fueled the Iranian revolution.

dee3 said...

Starz22 said... 177
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I get extremely upset when people let their house cats outside. There are so many horrible things that can happen to them. We adopted a cat after a woman put her outside....de-clawed....because she wasn't getting along with the woman's big dogs. She was thrilled we asked to adopt her. I get really upset when I see a cat that is clearly a house cat...outdoors...and want to take every one of them home with me. I can see how these women end up with 100 cats...that would probably be me if I had free reign to do that. You can tell when they're house cats...when they're really friendly towards you/people.

I'm going to have to do some googling (send the cops out after me if I go missing again ;D)....because I don't really know much about feral cats. If a house cat is let out long enough and manages to survive, can it become a feral cat? I do know that the feral cats seem much better at surviving outside than a regular house cat does. I get very emotional about letting house cats outside because something really terrible happened to one where I used to live and it still haunts me to this day.

Formerly Duped said...

Kate's tweets: back to inane crap. Says Mady feels 'wildernessy." Trying to make her sound like a mini-me. please don't insult the child's intelligence, Kate. And tucking her 'little ones' into bed. I stopped calling my kids little ones after toddler stage- they would have been insulted. Poor Kate and her wretched cold.

dee3 said...

swimmermama said... 190
Just read that Bethany Frankel is writing a book about being a single mother!! She is not even divorced yet. I used to really like Bethany, but now it seems that she will attempt to cash in on anything.
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Bethany is another narcissist (I think you probably have to have a degree of NPD to even continue in these reality TV shows)...but, like Camille Grammar, has a bit of a different sort (as compared to KG). Just as @Ex-Nurse had commented, I find that observing the sociopathy is fascinating.

BF and CG have some ability to attempt to make themselves likable when needed. They seem to have some ability to hone in on how they appear to others. They may not even have the ability to CARE (may lack empathy)...but at least they have the ability to SEE....and even if it's only to promote themselves...they at least have the ability (even if they're faking it) to come across as likable when needed.

Sarah Palin is another example of this. I'm on the totally opposite side of the political fence....and even I feel like she's a nicer person than KG is. Maybe SP is conning me...but at least she has the ability to do it. To me, that indicates some ability to think outside of herself....just to be able to do that.

I've always seen KG as fascinating regarding her particular type of NPD. She seems totally incapable of even faking it...because her perspective/ability to SEE is so limited. What must a person be missing....in order to be incapable of this? I'd love to see Kate rehabilitate herself....but I have ZERO confidence she could do this. I don't think she could do it if her life depended on it. She just seems to lack whatever it would take to do it.

Improbable Dreams said...

Agree with you, Formerly Duped!

How on earth are pine nut$ "wildernessy"? I love them, too, but they're very expensive. Out of reach, I suspect, for most "mediocre" families.

And I don't believe for a minute that shoveling snow is the "new favorite thing" for all eight (count 'em, 8!) kids. Channelling the Van Trapp family...or a chain gang, more likely.

dee3 said...

According to Wikipedia:

"A feral cat is a descendant of a domestic cat that has returned to the wild. It is distinguished from a stray cat, which is a pet cat that has been lost or abandoned, while feral cats are born in the wild. The offspring of a stray cat can be considered feral if born in the wild.

The term "feral" is sometimes used to refer to an animal that does not appear friendly when approached by humans, but the term can apply to any domesticated animal without human contact. Hissing and growling are self-defense behaviors, which, over time, may change as the animal (whether "feral" or "stray") begins to trust humans that provide food, water, and care.
Feral cats that are born and living outdoors, without any human contact or care, have been shown to be adoptable and can be tamed by humans, provided they are removed from a wild environment before truly feral behaviors are established. Such behaviors are established while it is still a kitten being raised by its mother."
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And the life-span of a feral cat is usually much shorter than a house cat...due to a whole variety of factors.

That's so sad....I wish everyone would keep their house cats indoors so this didn't happen.

AMD said...


From RadarOnline....
Hoping to make lemonade out of lemons,
SkinnyGirl mogul Bethenny Frankel is writing a new book about her life as a single mom, as she begins divorce proceedings against Jason Hoppy, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

“Bethenny has been writing and documenting her feelings in the beginning stages of the divorce,” a source close to the situation tells us. “The book will explore the struggles and compromises all single mom face. It will deal with the delicate balancing act that is being a single mom, and the guilt she feels because her daughter Bryn will now come from a broken home, something she never wanted for her little girl.”
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Sound familiar? The complete disrespect for the fathers who clearly care for their children is very sad and disturbing...and to capitalize from it speaks volumes.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

BF and CG have some ability to attempt to make themselves likable when needed. They seem to have some ability to hone in on how they appear to others. They may not even have the ability to CARE (may lack empathy)...but at least they have the ability to SEE....and even if it's only to promote themselves...they at least have the ability (even if they're faking it) to come across as likable when needed.

Sarah Palin is another example of this. I'm on the totally opposite side of the political fence....and even I feel like she's a nicer person than KG is. Maybe SP is conning me...but at least she has the ability to do it. To me, that indicates some ability to think outside of herself....just to be able to do that.


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Yes! I find it fascinating that Kate's narcissism is so bad that she can't even fake it like most other narcissists seem to be able to do. In fact if I'm not mistaken most people here who have narcissists in their lives have talked about that person's ability to fake being a kind, generous, warm person in public. But when the doors close, watch out.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I hate to sound mean, but when does this man work? He surely isn't getting paid for this, is he?

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I don't know. It is a private school. Usually the panels were paid at my private school. There is a speaker fund for it. You would also get paid transportation (your mileage or a ride) and lunch.

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