Wednesday, August 29, 2012

Study: Lying makes you happier

Not that this is a big surprise, but here goes:

On April 7 Kate tweeted this:

“@XXXX you're so energetic miss gardener:) tomorrow we plant our organic veges inside then will move outside when they sprout yay!” 

However today, when someone asked if she had a garden, she tweeted this:

"no but my kids seem to think we need one"


Oh no she didn't!


According to studies, small embellishments can have positive psychological effects. In a 2008 study, researchers found that college students who exaggerated their GPA in interviews later showed improvement in their grades. Their fiction, in other words, became self-fulfilling. "Exaggerators tend to be more confident and have higher goals for achievement," said Richard Gramzow, a psychologist at the University of Southampton in England and one of the study's coauthors. "Positive biases about the self can be beneficial." People who deceive themselves also tend to be happier than people who do not, some research suggests. There are social payoffs, too: Studies have shown that people who lie frequently are viewed as friendlier and more amiable than their more truthful counterparts.

Kate's web of lies has caught up with her time and time again, and yet something keeps driving her to keep on spinning them. Is it because it makes her happier to put up such a facade?  


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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Maybe Kate could be set up with a Veggie Tale pirate. They don't clean either.

SG said...

So happy there's a new post! Can this one be a Peanut Free Post? Since the last one I've become allergic to the topic. ;)

Was there ever a detailed post on Kate's lies? With either two conflicting versions or outright proof of a lie?

C (Is for cookie) said...

What really gets me is that Kate tells such pointless lies. Who cares if she doesn’t plant a garden—excuse me, an ORGANIC garden? I think a garden would be a good way to put some of that ginormous property to work, but I wouldn’t think she was doing it wrong if she opted out.

C (Is for cookie) said...

BTW, I love the "Oh no she didn't!" picture.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Don't crucify me. I'm no sheeple, as you all well know, but is it possible that she did plant those organic veggies inside, but due to Kate's ineptness,she either forgot to water them, or they just died because she over-watered them, had them in a shady spot, whatever...therefore they never got moved outside because they never sprouted? Or maybe they did move them outside, but she was too lazy to take care of them, and just let them die on their own.

SG...I seem to remember that there was a post or thread with a list of Kate's lies.

SG said...

I think Kate lied too. If she tried and it didn't work out then why wouldn't she just say so? Saying No doesn't really coincide with her first comment.

Heide said...

Thinking about Kate's lies made me think about the Gosselin book. At first I couldn't understand why he would taunt Kate like that - if he's got the goods on her, why not come out with the book? Why taunt her and have her lawyers get involved? And why leak the furniture contract details? So I started thinking about it and it does seem to make sense that he would do those things if he was looking for a payoff from her to not publish the book. I guess we'll see if the book comes out soon.

SG said...

Fleecing,
Thanks.

I though the same thing about the garden at first but I don't think her reply makes sense if she tried and it didn't work out.

I recently planted some tomato plants and the next day they were gone. The topic of tomato plants came up twice since then and I told what happened to mine. (Rabbit was a prime suspect.)

Maybe Kate is embarrassed she couldn't grow a garden? Then why not just ignore the question?

I don't think I will ever understand Kate's reasoning.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

If she weren't lying about the seedlings she should have said we tried and it didn't work out.

She just flat out said no. That's not the lie, I don't think she does have a garden. The lie was about the seedlings.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

And, who cares if the seedlings didn't work out. The sheeple would be falling all over her to help her out with tips and whatnot. They wouldnt hold it against her. And frankly I don't think anyone here would either--I mean at least she tried, it's a start.

Once a Viewer reminded us in the April 8th thread that Kate started talking about her seedlings right after there was a big gardening discussion here. Just information, I haven't the first clue if Kate reads here. I do know Jon does when he can.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Lemonzest, you're a vile person.

And yes SG this is a peanut free zone! :)

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

I think Kate lied too. If she tried and it didn't work out then why wouldn't she just say so? Saying No doesn't really coincide with her first comment.

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When has Kate ever admitted to failure?

SG said...

*waves to Jon

Jane said...

According to Deanna, Shoka is alive and well:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack
@deannatweeting @Kateplusmy8 They have been goin on & on 4wks since Kate tweeted abt Shoka's upset stomach episode! They insist he's gone!!


Deanna Bell
‏@deannatweeting
@MiloandJack @kateplusmy8 Oh how utterly silly! That's really beyond! Well please tell them not to worry--he is still happy and at home! LOL


Deanna Bell ‏@deannatweeting
@Allisstair @miloandjack @kateplusmy8 Are you worried about Shoka? Silly silly! I just saw him--he's great--very loved and spoiled :)!


There was a Twitter discussion on fake eyelashes...really, can't make this stuff up!

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
@deannatweeting @Mydmaxx @madreof1 @miloandjack @r3boz omg I love you more and more Deanna! I am lol hearing u say that! :)


Deanna Bell
‏@deannatweeting
@Kateplusmy8 @mydmaxx @madreof1 @miloandjack @r3boz LOL we might have to have Mady film and edit a lash tutorial class! :)


Moose Mania said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 11

Lemonzest, you're a vile person.

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Who is Lemonzest?

Kristine said...

This evening, I thought I'd step away from the Gosselin drama and take a break for a little while. I was surfing the net about MTV's Teen Mom finale, which aired last night. I immediately found this comment, posted about one of the (clearly NPD and very mentally unstable) 'cast mothers', Farrah Abraham. It turns out, she has recorded a ghastly music video!...

"El Jefe
She is kind of hot and like a lot of hot girls she is a lotta psycho. They kind of go hand in hand. I don’t know what I even just listened to.

I have a feeling she is going to make Kate Gosselin look sane and normal in the end."
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There's no escaping Katie Irene, on the WWW.

What I find most disturbing, is how MTV has continued to film these children during very private moments. In the beginning children were once featured in complete undress, bathing, using the restroom, etc.

http://www.thesuperficial.com/teen-mom-farrah-music-video-on-my-own-auto-tune-08-2012#comments

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Oh no. They're turning Mady into a little diva in the making. Kate acts like the child doesn't seem to have any interests anymore outside of clothes, hair and eyelashes. Sometimes I think these kids are screwed.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Kristine I wish I were more up to speed on this Teen Mom thing because I keep hearing more and more bad things about it and I guess it's been on the air a really long time now? I haven't watched MTV in maybe 7 years. I don't even know where it is anymore on the lineup. I feel like it should be a point of discussion on a reality tv kids blog but I confess I can't work up the energy to really research the issues it's presenting....maybe someone could volunteer?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Why is it so important that Kate tell you or anyone what happened to her seedlings/garden?


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Good question. Why is she telling us about this at all?

If you don't like this lie, I can offer you up 100 others you might like instead.

SG said...

Anonymous,
Two words: Good bra

SG said...

Kate's an established liar. Maybe we should just make a list of the things she said that turned out to be true. It will be so much shorter.

butterfly said...

I second good bra!

Jane said...

SG said... 21
Kate's an established liar. Maybe we should just make a list of the things she said that turned out to be true. It will be so much shorter.

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I can't think of anything.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

She has eight kids, that's true.

"I truly enjoy the media." That was true too.

Drawing a blank beyond that.

AuntieAnn said...

"According to studies, small embellishments can have positive psychological effects."

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Hold on a minute. I've been going through life trying my best to be an honest person and now I find out if I embellish my story I'd be happier?

Hells bells I guess I should have come clean and told you all I'm Princess Margaret of the Netherlands.

Positive biases about the self can be beneficial?

Studies have shown that people who lie frequently are viewed as friendlier and more amiable than their more truthful counterparts?

WTF. No wonder Kate is happy Ms Positivity.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Who is Lemonzest?

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Jeopardy answer? Question: Is good on chicken, fish and cakes.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Studies have shown that people who lie frequently are viewed as friendlier and more amiable than their more truthful counterparts?

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Auntie Anne you crack me up. Maybe they're viewed as friendlier because people would rather hear a lie than the truth from their friend.

Kate would rather hear you're wonderful and perfect than what we tell her: Bitch, get a JOB!!!

I get it. I do wonder what the LONG TERM happiness meter is. Sure it makes you happy right then. But how about long term when your life is terrible because no one ever told you certain things that would have really helped you. LIke to quit drugs and stop being such a tool.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Actually it occurred to me that maybe she means she moved the veggies outside in POTS? And doesn't count that as a real garden? But why wouldn't she say that? I.e. We have a few veggies in pots but would love a full garden. Knowing Kate she would mention/brag about home grown veggies as much as possible, yet never has.

I don't know why I'm trying to weasel this woman out of this one.

Oh well still worth it to tie in Veggie Tales!

Moose Mania said...


Jeopardy answer? Question: Is good on chicken, fish and cakes.

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lol...why is it vile? :)

I think I've had three too many rumspringas.

AuntieAnn said...

I suppose if she ever quit lying so much she'd crash and burn. I wouldn't want to see her (or anyone) do that, but does she know that this world is quite a forgiving place? She would redeem herself and a lot of people would probably get off her back about her lies. I don't think she wants that to happen. She knows she gets more attention from her lies than anything else.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Question to the psychology-minded.

Is compulsive lying a separate disorder? What are the motivations? Or is it just one aspect of something bigger. Please educate.

Over In Kate's County said...

Drawing a blank beyond that.

"This is all mine, as far as the eye can see."

+++++++++++++

Yes, and the mortgage, taxes, maintenance, utilities, etc. etc. Now they are yours, all yours.

AuntieAnn said...

Veggie Tales is hilarious and dare I say cute. We have to come up with lyrics for Kate.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I wouldn't want to see her (or anyone) do that, but does she know that this world is quite a forgiving place? She would redeem herself and a lot of people would probably get off her back about her lies. I don't think she wants that to happen. She knows she gets more attention from her lies than anything else.

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Some of the most successful Mommy bloggers are the ones who are honest. The ones who say darn my heel broke today, or I burned the bread, or Davey hurt himself and no one could reach me because I forgot my phone. This is stuff that is relatable. People LOVE self-depircation. The perfect mommy blogs annoy people and turn people off. Kate doesn't realize if she would just get real with people it would be so much easier to take her.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Veggie Tales is hilarious and dare I say cute. We have to come up with lyrics for Kate.


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Eh-hem-hem may I try?

"Oh where, is my boobyguard? Oh where, is my boobyguard? Oh where oh where oh where oh where oh WHERE.....IS MY BOOOBYGUARD?"

AuntieAnn said...

hehee. Thank you Larry.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Wanna bet she's really home alone tonight and might not have bus duty in the am? For someone with a head cold, she has been a tweeting maniac tonight and up way late too. If there is indeed a 50/50, would it make sense for kids to have midweek overnight(s) at dad's place? She does seem to go out of her way to always make it seem like kids are always with her. Exaggerations turn into lies when you do it all the time.

Thanks for the peanut free zone, I was developing a conversation allergy.

meagler said...

YAY peanut free, that from a person who made 2 long posts in the previous thread! lol..

Kate has grandious ideas, and maybe really hopes to do most of what she says, but I tend to think it is more likely she is pretentious and needs to attempt to impress others by stating ( err tweeting) all the fabulous talents she thinks she has, but doesnt posess.

She does it so often she cant keep track, and she really doesnt even care.If you put it in her face with all the facts, even with video footage, she will always have some way of spinning it.

Thats what these kinds of people do...sometimes I wonder why we/I even waste time on her... but I just keep wishing for someone/somewhere to come out with some REALLY damaging evidence. Sadly that might not happen till the kids grow up, and even then someone , somewhere will deny it.

Just like what happened to Joan Crawfords 2 kids..

ORRR, Kate will run out of money and have no connections to, or no ability to pay them high falutin lwyers to intimidate people who know the TRUTH!!!

Call Me Crazy said...

OrangeCrusher1 said... 37

Thanks for the peanut free zone, I was developing a conversation allergy.
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OK. This is just too funny! Thanks for the laugh, Orange!!

barnaby said...

Does anyone remember when the chickens arrived? Or when the chickens were filmed arriving vs. when the episode was shown? Was there ever any visual follow up about the chix? Not interested in any of Khart's silly tweetering.

I follow a couple of blogs where the blogee just got into the whole raising chicken thing (a real touch and go thing unlike the miracle at the Gosselin compound) so I'm just asking about timing, because .............. chickens only lay eggs for so many months or years. Some do better than others. Yet we've never heard anything about the chix that are past their prime so to speak. Just a bunch of nonsense about dozens and dozens and dozens of eggs daily, weekly, etc.

Just curious about how many chickens are still laying eggs for all the organic cooking going on that silly household. Or is any mention of the chix just another lie at this point?

meagler said...

Some may find this link interesting. Its about personality disorders. There has been some recent changes in the DSM... Kate has several of the symptoms listed in the Cluster B disorders.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/personality-disorders/DS00562/DSECTION=symptoms

Audible Click said...

Checking in, I'm still here and it's still storming like crazy although I think the wind has calmed a bit. We're under a boil water order, such fun. On a happier note, I've read that some of my fellow posters would like an easy way to spell check their posts on here. This is the checker I use it will spell check just about any internet form you have open. Thanks for all the good wishes from my fellow 15 Minutes posters.
Free Spell Check Link:
http://afterthedeadline.com/

Tamara said...

A post of her outright lies would take up about 2000GB of blogger space. Could the server handle it without melting down? Especially as she adds to her list of lies on an hourly basis.

Tamara said...

SG said... 6
I think Kate lied too. If she tried and it didn't work out then why wouldn't she just say so?
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Because then she would have to admit she failed at something or actually did something that wasn't the bestest ever.

And a lot of her lies are of the completely pointless variety. Things she doesn't need to lie about. It's compulsive and pathological with her.

AuntieAnn said...

Some may find this link interesting. Its about personality disorders. There has been some recent changes in the DSM... Kate has several of the symptoms listed in the Cluster B disorders.
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On the one hand researchers say it's okay to tell a few lies if it will make you happy and on the other we have Mayo Clinic telling you that if you have magical thinking you'd better see a doctor. Someone isn't telling the truth.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


And a lot of her lies are of the completely pointless variety. Things she doesn't need to lie about. It's compulsive and pathological with her.

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Yes it's weird. I've never really known someone like this, it's harder for me to grasp it like I can narcissism. Do they really not think they will be caught, or do they just not care? Is it delusion, will they pretend they never mentioned anything about seedlings even when thrown in their face?

A Mom said...

Kate's final tweet; all that paper work is for a book deal and another couple of tv shows. You'll see me soon on tv; I'm patience! Kate having a cold should be asleep unless she slept all day, kids at their Dad's and all Kate has left are her tweeties and dreams of a book deal/tv shows! Kate's ready for her trip to New York, boobyguard, and Fig&Olive to be the star she thinks she is!?!?! She should be the Mother she so wanted to be years ago.

Tamara said...

Khate is a compulsive/habitual/pathological liar. They all mean the same thing. She is someone who lies out of habit. A few ways to sell if someone is this type: Lying is their normal and reflexive way of responding to questions.  Compulsive liars bend the truth about everything, large and small.  For a compulsive liar, telling the truth is very awkward and uncomfortable while lying feels right.  Compulsive lying is usually thought to develop in early childhood, due to being placed in an environment where lying was necessary.  For the most part, compulsive liars are not overly manipulative and cunning (unlike sociopaths), rather they simply lie out of habit.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


And a lot of her lies are of the completely pointless variety. Things she doesn't need to lie about. It's compulsive and pathological with her.

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Hm, wouldn't that fit perfectly into a child who was abused? They certainly would lie about all kinds of things to avoid abuse. No dad I wasn't out with friends I was at the library studying--a lie to avoid a beating.

jclentie said...

I wanted to chime in on something. Long time lurker here. I agree that the sheeple who posted answering the questions were treated badly. Call me crazy said she wanted to sincerely ask questions of the sheeple. When those questions were answered in what I think was a sincere fashion, her answers were ridiculed and examined and then torn apart.

Just as our opinions of Kate cannot be changed, theirs probably can't either. I was hoping to really see some discussion and maybe gain insight into the differences of our opinions.

Why can't that happen here? Why can't we discuss those differing opinions without getting defensive and ridiculing them? I was disappointed in the outcome.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

When those questions were answered in what I think was a sincere fashion, her answers were ridiculed and examined and then torn apart.

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Quite the contrary. The responses provided were insightful, with a tone of respect and no sarcasm at all. Crazy did an exemplary job of not insulting the other person. In fact, it was an honest post without any hint of snark whatsoever. It was an excellent differing of opinion without anyone being torn apart.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Crazy did as good of a job as anyone could do answering those questions. Just because you have a different opinion doesn't mean you are "ridiculing."

And really, it's very hard to have a reasoned discussion with some of the absurd things said. It's one thing to debate whether apples or oranges are better, quite another when someone tries to tell you apples are blue and oranges have rainbow colored polka dots.

Also I'm not sure what the point is of trying to gain insight into opinions. For what purpose? If it were peace in the middle east sure but it's Kate Gosselin for pity sake, lol. PLEASE move on from the blogs on blogs discussion. If you don't like the blog, then go away. Given how hard this is for people, I have this funny feeling they DO like this blog.

Anonymous said...

STUDY: Lying makes you happier.

Well if that's true, Kate should feel like a pig rolling in Sheat.

Tamara said...

There are other components to Khate's compulsive lying that aren't textbook. The narcissism, low IQ, laziness, all need to be taken into consideration. And I do think she is also delusional. She truly believes her lies. You've heard of people who believe their own hype? Well, she takes that to the extreme. She believes things about herself and her life that have never been hyped. And she grabs on tightly and fully to concepts that she likes. The OCD clean thing, organic, dressing in a 'sexy' manner. All of these were things created by handlers to help sell a brand. And, all of them are things that she really, REALLY, doesn't do well, but continues to cling to.

fidosmommy said...

Lying feels good. Lying is a control issue in that by stating my lie, I expect you to believe it because I'm the one saying it. If I say it, you must believe it. If I contradict myself the problem is that you misunderstood, not that I've changed the story. I am in pig heaven when
I can rope you into my story, whatever it is.
It might be that I want you to believe I always
wash my ceilings as part of my cleaning routine,
or that I can clip 400 good coupons in an hour.
My point in telling you this is to make you feel inadequate when compared to me. That feels good. It compensates for an objective
observation that I don't clean very much and am
pretty much never clipping coupons.

Lying has 2 purposes. 1)to get out of some kind of unhappy situation and 2)to impress.

Tamara said...

In a lot of ways she is a sociopathic liar except for one MAJOR difference: she is a horrible liar. Just watching a single interview makes that so obvious.

Heide said...

When those questions were answered in what I think was a sincere fashion, her answers were ridiculed and examined and then torn apart.
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What? Ridiculed? Torn apart? I saw a pretty reasoned response saying she didn't agree and why.

Tamara said...

I am in pig heaven when
I can rope you into my story, whatever it is.
It might be that I want you to believe I always
wash my ceilings as part of my cleaning routine,
or that I can clip 400 good coupons in an hour.
My point in telling you this is to make you feel inadequate when compared to me. That feels good. It compensates for an objective
observation that I don't clean very much and am
pretty much never clipping coupons.
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But Khate lies in the way a four year old does. To try and get people to believe she clips coupons she will say she clipped 40,OOO yesterday and then went out and found a secret coupon factory that only she knows about AND when she told they kids they did cartwheels and baked her a special super mummy coupon cake.

fidosmommy said...

Maybe the concerned poster could cut and paste the portions of the discussion that are troubling her. I recall a very reasoned conversation, but my memory's been lax before.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I just found Call me Crazy's answers and re-read them. They are located here:

http://www.realitytvkids.com/2012/08/the-farmers-wife-when-story-of.html?commentPage=2

There was not a single word of the entire thing that ridiculed, belittled or did anything of the sort. She went out of her way to be courteous and respectful. Sometimes I think the drivebys like to insist we are rude because that's what drivebys have always done, but when pressed to show examples often can't come up with any.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Tanya saunders-lobin ‏@Tanyalobin
@Kateplusmy8 what time do u need to get up? Do u still have hired help?
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2h Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
@Tanyalobin 5:30 and mornings no... Afternoons for homework help I do sometimes.

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Did y'all miss this one? Now she's admitting she has a homework helper too. Sorry, not-a-homework helper. Copped to the housekeeper and homework helper all in one day.

But of course she downplays their role as just for homework. Hell it's probably a full time nanny who cooks dinner and makes the lunches for the next day.

Guess when all you do is tweet all afternoon a homework helper is essential.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Speaking of delusion, this retweet takes the cake:

PsychicsUniverse ‏@PsychicsUnivers
Rejection doesn't mean you are not good enough; It means the other person failed to notice what you have to offer. -Mark Amend
Retweeted by Kate Gosselin

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Eh, no, no Kate. The first one. You were rejected because you're not good enough.

Also I love it because it's so typical Kate. It's never Kate. It's always the other person. Just like the sheeple too. It's never Kate. It's always the haters.

fidosmommy said...

Tamara, yes, I see your point. My thought is that ALL lies are on the mentality level of a child. 1) to get out of "trouble" or 2) to make you wish you were as great as I am/have it as great as I have it.

I'm not talking about those kindly white lies, btw. Sometimes you just have to assure Aunt
Myrtle that her hat is still fashionable. I think those come under a whole different category.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

There was not a single word of the entire thing that ridiculed, belittled or did anything of the sort.

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That's exactly what I remembered when I posted @51. I didn't go back and read them again. I know when I read the responses the first time, I thought....wow, such respect, such careful wording as not to insult the poster, just an honest response without sarcasm or name-calling.

fidosmommy said...

Do you think Jon has a "homework helper" sometimes, too?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Do you think Jon has a "homework helper" sometimes, too?

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Yes, probably. Incidentally his name is also Jon.

I the one hand I can't stand the way she blows money away on things she could easily do herself if she weren't so darn lazy, on the other hand I can't imagine Kate helping the kids with homework.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I have no sympathy about child support. She bitches it could barely cover lunches but spends God knows how much money on all these little "helpers" so she can lounge around like a lazy POS. No wonder Jon had had enough.

I classify white lies as something different than a normal lie. As far as white lies if you think about it we do it all day long. Someone asks how we're doing we say fine when really our best friend just died or a loved one has cancer. People go to work and pretend to like when they're doing when they don't always. People smile and nod at people they don't like. A girlfriend smiles and holds her boyfriends hand at the baseball game tells him she's having a great time, a boyfriend does the same at the ballet. To me that's more about being considerate of others and socially accepted. Although it's funny that so much of what people do to get along in the world is a lie. It's when people take it BEYOND that little circle of lies we all do to make the world go around smoothly it becomes creepy.

Just A Name said...

My first thought after reading "Call me crazy's" response was, "she should change her name to 'Call Me Patient.'

I don't post my every thought but I think Sheeple who graze over here want to be mocked and hurt so they can keep using the 'hater' label with imaginary validation.

C (Is for cookie) said...

Wait a minute…Kate hired a homework helper?!?!

She actually cracked open her wallet and spent money on something for the kids?!?!

I actually had to retreat to my fainting couch, the shock was so severe. I’m glad she got a homework helper—most parents would find it difficult to assist 8 children with their homework every night, and, let’s face it, she’s not the best person to ask. She’s probably okay with math and science, being a former nurse, but can you imagine Kate being “helper-ish” with a reading or writing assignment? The poor kids!

Starz22 said...

Kate wants to bitch about child support...Really kate? My kids father is over 20 thousand behind in support. I know Kate....you were getting 22 grand a month from Jon?Well the 20 grand behind in support is for over 5 years!!!
Why did you get all the kids money Kate? Why didnt Jon get 1/2? You are BOTH the childrens parents. But yet...you have all the money. And here you grift for everything..
You are always bitching about how much YOU do...how much YOU give up...How hard it IS to have 8 kids...
Jon seems to get by...He isnt begging for free stuff.
You LET Jon out of his support? NO...Same in my state...if you have your child/s 50% of the time...NO parent pays more.There is NO support owed. You did nothing Kate...other than let the kids be where they want to be...and NO...Jon shouldnt have to pay you for that!

Remona Blue said...
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Remona Blue said...

(Back after actually using spellcheck!!)

After having incredibly busy couple of days, I'm here to say this about the messy exchange between me and two posters the other night:

I regret that I didn't stop posting after my initial plea that no heated political
discussion start on 15 Minutes.

My heated and sarcastic comments were something I should have not done. I learned my lesson, and will remember IGNORE IGNORE IGNORE in the future!

Off to see if I can finally get to sleep.

Starz22 said...

I'm so tired about hearing how Kate "was" a nurse. I give huge kudos to the people who are nurses.They care they are informed and they better themselves every year.
They work for so little but yet give their all....They work 12+ hours shifts...Hell...my sister comes in on her days off to take a resident fishing or just to take him/her for a drive. She brings in her beagle on an off day to make her residents happy.
Sorry...but I cant EVER see kate working as a nurse...the focus would not be on her....and the witch has NO Idea what that means.
Kate as a "real" nurse in 2012???? Ummmm Nooooo

fidosmommy said...

Yeah, I remember that summer "paperwork" time Kate sat the kids down to do. That was a class I hope never to sit through. I wonder how many times "school" was open that summer or if that was simpoy a photo op. As I recall, it was a great pap set-up. Kate had on a black babydoll
dress, and when she bent over the tables (toward the cameras) you could practically see her navel. Laverne and Shirley were hanging tight to her chest wall and were in FULL view.

readerlady said...

Well, I'm having a rare sleepless night, anyone else still up?

I wish the article referenced in Admin's post here had defined "lie". Do they mean flat out whoppers or the "white lie" variety? I can see where the "white lie" variety could make someone happier. It makes life a bit less complicated. I can't see the whoppers making life easier/better/happier in the long run. They might uncomplicate things initially,but I'd think the stress of trying to keep them straight in your mind would make you crazy.

Examples of KK's flat out lies:

Mommy and Daddy will always be together.
I do it all for my kids.
I do it all by myself.

Re spell check. I downloaded the (free) Google task bar because it has a lot of features I like, and one of them is a spell check.

Well, I'm off to see if another Rumspringa will help me get a bit of sleep. Thankfully, I'm not scheduled to help at the school tomorrow.

readerlady said...

Fidosmommy -- Laverne and Shirley?! Hahahaha! I just spit Rumspringa all over my keyboard!

Let's throw tomatoes said...

Reader lady I'm still up. I haven't commented lately but I have kept up with my reading. It's funny that this thread is about lying because so much has been discussed about her lies in the past. I think that we don't even know the extent of her lies! I have called her twitter " her lying toy" because it's the perfect vehicle to say whatever she wants as if true when it's not! Maybe she lies because truth hurts.

Does she really have hired help for her kids homework?? Homework for 2nd and 6th graders?? Wow, unbelievable !! I am so glad Kate did not go into teaching!! So, so lazy!

I would like to comment about her box lunch. It looked like a photo up for an :
Advertisement, promotion, or resume for an endorsement deal! All her freebies up in a straight line for all to see! It's to much in your face kind of bragging ! Yuck!

I want to thank all of you for your kind words on my friends passing. I have always said that you guys are great, you are not mean girls!
Good night, or should I say good morning!

fidosmommy said...

Yes, I'm up, readerlady. Just not tired.

Kate's lies. Let's see. Well, I am convinced she did not run the full marathon in California.
It just doesn't add up - her time was too good for a novice runner with very sparse nutrition and a haphazard practice schedule, the mixup with the times and the deal with the 1/2 or full marathon, looking like she was feeling very little pain at the finish line, wearing heels so soon after, etc. All that makes me question the truth of the full marathon being run.

They were poor struggling Gosselins needing the help of fine church folks as they were hunting properties valued over $1M.

"I love being a Mom!" I don't think she does, frankly. I think she likes being a house manager and little else. She reninds me of Captain Von Trapp and his whistle that kept his
8 (?) children in line. As long as the house was run like a ship, the Captain was happy and all was well.

readerlady said...

fidosmommy -- I don't think it's a coincidence that KKs very favoritist movie in the whole wide world is "The Sound of Music".

Tomatoes -- Good to hear from you again. So sorry about your friend. It's hard to say goodbye, but one day it will be hello again.

fidosmommy said...

Let's Throw Tomatoes, I'm glad you're back too.

barbee said...

Katie's reason for lying is it is required since she worked for The Lying Channel.
No, actually, she lies to TRY to make herself appear more important, more intelligent, more worthwhile, more better, well, just MORE! What she HAS is her basis for what her value is. Pity, what she has ain't all that much. Hmmm, maybe that is a good 'standard establisher', she ain't got much and she really ain't all that much. Guess she IS right. Well, there's a FIRST!!!!!! !!

Pity Party said...

Yes and someone mentions the Olympics and behold, she and the girls were just talking about that. That is just as an example, but she does that type of thing all the time. Like with Ellen - I was just thinking about Taylor. I think it is a trick of the trade. Makes you more relatable. My husband used to watch Oprah all the time and would say it doesn't matter what her guests have done or had happen she has been through the same thing and knows how they feel.

KAT said...

Admin....31....Compulsive lying can be a seperate disorder..but most times its attached to OCD disorder...and usually VERY prevalent in people who have OCD....

fidosmommy said...

Kate tweeted this morning:

GM!Smiling 2day bc of what Alexis said 2me: 'mommy it's special living here...(I agreed,meaning r home)..special because you're here!' XO!:)

I'm open for comments. Got any?

Mandy said...

Admin said..
But of course she downplays their role as just for homework. Hell it's probably a full time nanny who cooks dinner and makes the lunches for the next day.

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She can't be there every day, because a nanny just wouldn't cook food that looks like vomit. Otherwise, though, I believe you're right!

fidosmommy said:


GM!Smiling 2day bc of what Alexis said 2me: 'mommy it's special living here...(I agreed,meaning r home)..special because you're here!' XO!:)

I'm open for comments. Got any?
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HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY!!!!!

There's a comment for you, though I had to vomit first after reading the tweet....

I've known narcissists, but never anyone that lies as much as Kate!


Dwindle said...

fidosmommy said... 84
Kate tweeted this morning:

GM!Smiling 2day bc of what Alexis said 2me: 'mommy it's special living here...(I agreed,meaning r home)..special because you're here!' XO!:)

I'm open for comments. Got any?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I feel like Ralph Kramden: "hubbadahubbadahubbada..."

I dont know which scenario is more disturbing - that her children apparently say this kind of stuff on a daily basis while gleefully dancing from one room to the next sqealing screeches of delight and raving their happiness and joy; or that Kate feels the need to make this crap up daily and announce it to the public, along with her pretend 'vejjezz' garden.

Either Kate is every bit as mentally ill as she appears to be, or those kids are incredibly psychologically damaged and traumatized and are beginning to babble their mother's propaganda trying to save themselves from another mental beating. Stockholm syndrome?

JoyinVirginia said...

My lemon zest is the best ever! Because I grow my own lemons! From my lemon grove in the backyard! That I fertilize with organic fertilizer produced by unicorns! Their unicorn excrement does not stink!!!!!!!!
Oh, this is really fun!

Maggie said...

I am surprised that nobody posted on Oprah filming the McGhee sextuplets for a TV series for her OWN network. (Posted yesterday on last thread). America considers Oprah one of the most influential and yet she is using the sextuplets to boast her own ratings for her network and nobody is concerned about it.

Respectfully Disagree said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 52
Crazy did as good of a job as anyone could do answering those questions. Just because you have a different opinion doesn't mean you are "ridiculing."

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Correct, having a difference of opinion is not "ridiculing." However, referring to someone as a difference of opinion as "blind" is ridiculing:

Call Me Crazy said... 69
Oh, Kristine. Thank you. I didn't mean to hijack the thread, but I think this exchange has clearly shown that there are "none so blind as those who will not see."

Have a good night.
August 25, 2012 11:00 PM

And some of the comments from other posters most definitely qualify as "ridiculing." For example...

Just shoot me now please said... 53
Sheeple,
Thank you for respectfully answering those questions for whoever asked them, and thank you for proving me right about the mentality of the sheeple. No wonder you all look up to Kate.
August 25, 2012 9:38 PM

Sheeple Silliness said... 55
Remona said...Here we are, spending time...actually attempting to have a logical, factual discussion with illogical, argumentative, disruptive people. Why? I'm out of patience and gone for the night!!

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I'm kind of glad they posted, but enough is enough. Those here have been commenting for some time about how unintelligent and illogical they are, and this only confirms what has been said all along. Thanks, sheeple. You've just shot yourselves in the foot. Now run along into your own barn. Your queen ewe is waiting for you!
August 25, 2012 9:
Curb-Side Service said... 59
A sheeple said,

"I've never seen Kate laugh at her child vomiting or ignore a sick child."

^^^^^^^^^^^^

I guess this poster missed the laundry room floor episode or Collin's constipation problem when her main focus was on picking out furniture. It's all recorded on film. There's nothing subject to personal interpretation.

The posters here are right. You can't have any kind of logical discussion when someone is so clueless. They see what they want to see, through rose-colored glasses. They even laughed with Kate about her speeding tickets. I wonder what it is going to take for them to wake up and smell the coffee, if they ever do. Will they continue to defend her no matter what?

If comments such as the above are your idea of respectful dialogue, then we clearly don't define "respectful" in the same manner.

KAT said...

Also Admin....Those people will lie out of habit..and when they do get caught in a lie they will go into a state of denial and lie even more. Also they can become emotional or get angry(like we've seen Kate do many times)to cover their lying...

Dwindle said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 61
Tanya saunders-lobin ‏@Tanyalobin
@Kateplusmy8 what time do u need to get up? Do u still have hired help?
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2h Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
@Tanyalobin 5:30 and mornings no... Afternoons for homework help I do sometimes.

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Did y'all miss this one? Now she's admitting she has a homework helper too. Sorry, not-a-homework helper. Copped to the housekeeper and homework helper all in one day.



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Isnt that 'homework helper' called a TUTOR? Is she so lazy that... Oh never mind. Perhaps the kids needed professional help.

KAT said...

My husband finds that people with this (OCD) disorder usually have other issues going on...it all gets pretty complicated....

TLC stinks said...

Liars are manipulators. For whatever reason, Kate has discovered that by lying and thus manipulating, she usually gets what she wants. And, even more importantly, brings attention to herself. Unfortunately, some of those children are going to go down the same path.

JoyinVirginia said...

Everyones children say cute stuff every so often. Was it a spontaneous statement, part of a conversation, or prompted by questions or statements from the parent? Doesn't really matter because even the most average mediocre children do say cute things at times.
Ms Kreider is still boring.
I would not be surprised to see her in a brief bit on Dancin With Them There Stars. They usually do a look back at the WORST dancers of the entire series, and Ms Kreider us right up there with Master P ”i'm only on this show because my son Romeo hurt his ankle and I want to sell my shoes so no Len I will not be wearing those professional dancing shoes”. Oh, and former Speaker of the House Tom Delay ” watch me sit in a chair while my partner dances around me because I managed to break my type the first week..”
Gee, if they add in Kenny Mayne, Ms Kreider might not reach the top the Worst Dancers Ever!
Seriously, Master P had her attitude beat by a mile, he just did not care and his performance each week was a gigantic fu to the judges especially Len who was almost apoplectic at the lack of the proper shoes.

JoyinVirginia said...

Auggghhh! Auto correct! Tom Delay broke a toe or a bone in his foot or something almost the first week. His dancing was abysmal before that, and thankfully he was voted out after the chair dance. He really did spend most of the dance sitting in a chair. At least the Shopping Kart was dragged around.

TLC stinks said...

Kate appears to keep the economy in Wernersville humming along with all the hired help she employs.

Formerly Duped said...

I guess there are lies and then , lies! When I tell a white lie ( like I have to go somewhere to get off the phone with a Chatty Cathy,) I feel kind of bad. I also probably wouldn't remember if I told a lie about where I was or trivial things like that. Of course I have told lives in my life- but I don't think they make me feel good at all! But Kate's kind ( to impress) provably do, like her saying it makes her seem grander and she thinks people believe it.

Well, another lie I noted from the show is that when she had the kids 'disperse' to the umpteen bathrooms to distribute toilet paper, it was Cottonelle, not QN! lol

Oh, and about the organic garden- as I said in the last thread why didn't she get someone else do the work- that's her usual MO. Maybe Henry supplies enough 'veges' for her and she can fill in with frozen. Which is fine- but don't lie!


Hey, I am still blue!
Once a Viewer is now Formerly Duped- hope it lasts!

JoyinVirginia said...

Do y'all who think the discussion other night was so disrespectful, do y'all EVER check out other places on the interwebs? Esp what passes for discussion on political sites? I even stopped reading comments section on Washington Post stories, always someone is insulting someone elses political beliefs, ethnic heritage, choice of TV station, what car they drive, hobbies, etc. in truly vile terms. discussion here is very civilized and respectful, and even when a drive by baa baa posts something really insulting it actually is very mild and even mediocre and lame.
Guess this is one more benefit of living in a ”swing state” not. The insults and mud slung around in political campaigns make disagreements here look like a polite croquet match followed by tea and crumpets.

knows what it's like said...

I have a daughter with symptoms of NPD. She is 31 years old now, but for years she has lied about anything and everything. Even when it made no sense to tell a lie she would still lie or at the very least embellish. This has caused a serious rift in our family, especially since she has an almost 12 year old daughter who is usually the one to suffer her wrath. Thank goodness my granddaughter has a wonderful father, where she spends a good deal of her time.



Dwindle said...

AuntieAnn said... 45

On the one hand researchers say it's okay to tell a few lies if it will make you happy and on the other we have Mayo Clinic telling you that if you have magical thinking you'd better see a doctor. Someone isn't telling the truth.

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I think it is a matter of extremes. It is one thing to boast "I lost 10 pounds!" when you know full well you only lost 7. But it's another thing when Kate goes on Leno and says her kids go through 3 loaves of bread, 6 dozen eggs, 5 pounds of bacon, plus a pot of oatmeal every morning for breakfast. Then she posts pics of ONE slice of bacon, ONE egg, and a mini muffin per plate and cant understand why folks call her a liar.

Pathological lying is hard to comprehend. Of course there are times they KNOW they are deliberatly lying; but for the most part they feel the words they are using are so justified to get their needs met that the words then become quite truthful. A lie is always better than the truth because the truth is something you have to own and are accountable for and for the pathological liar, that cannot be tolerated for whatever reasons.

Dwindle said...

knows what it's like said... 96
I have a daughter with symptoms of NPD. She is 31 years old now, but for years she has lied about anything and everything. Even when it made no sense to tell a lie she would still lie or at the very least embellish. This has caused a serious rift in our family, especially since she has an almost 12 year old daughter who is usually the one to suffer her wrath. Thank goodness my granddaughter has a wonderful father, where she spends a good deal of her time.
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You completely understand. And *I* comprehend your sadness. My ex husband was/is NPD and lied about everything. I mean everything, the price of gas, what he watched on TV, what he ate for lunch, everything. I didnt understand at the time how to deal with it, so I battled it. Big mistake. God bless your grandaughter.

fidosmommy said...

Formally Duped, do you remember when Ronald Reagan was going through investigations and they asked him "Mr. President, when did you go to the library?" (I don't remember the exact question so I'm making this up.) He answered "June 10th." They asked "What time?"
He answered "Sometime in the afternoon." They wanted a specific time, like 2:20 p.m. The problem was, they were asking him about this trip to the (library) 2 years after the fact.

It was ridiculous. I would have been tempted to say "I know you're hoping I will say 3:42, but I think I'm going to change my answer to 2:02. Because I DON'T REMEMBER. Do you know where YOU were on the afternoon of June 10th 2 years ago? I didn't think so. Go away, fool.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Isnt that 'homework helper' called a TUTOR?

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YES. Just another way to downplay their role and disrespect what they are. God, I never worked for anyone who didn't give me the respect to call me what I am. A nanny, a tutor, a lawyer.

Not a babysitter, not a homework helper, not someone helping me with a legal problem. Geez.

Formerly Duped said...

Fidosmommy: Yes, I do. Exactly. Although I am a bit of a clock watcher, I could never account for my whereabouts in an investigation unless it was something written down in my calendar, like a dr appt.

I see many discrepancies with Kate from both the show, and her tweets, and also in her books. Some of her lies make no sense and some are wholly unbelievable. Some are trivial. She's just one big lie.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

The kids have learned to just suck up to Kate and suck up as much as possible for their own protection. What Kate thinks is sweet I'm starting to find really creepy.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Respectfully Disagree, I wasn't talking about what was said after (with 1600 comments I couldn't remember) nor was I talking about what others said.
I was talking about the questions Crazy answered, which were respectful.

In any case I don't blame folks for getting frustrated. Like I said last night it's one thing to debate the merits of an orange, another when you're trying to debate with someone who tells you that orange has blue spots on it when it doesn't.

If you are not happy with how folks talk here, the simplest solution is to leave. Why is this so hard for people? I don't hang out on web sites I don't like. Why would you?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

She's been teasing and dropping hints that something is coming. I doubt it's a TV show, I bet it's exactly what Joy said, a little cameo on DWTS. Maybe they'll do a group number with some other alumni. This is what all her teasing and hinting is about, just a tiny little cameo.

Sassy Lassy said...

fidosmommy said... 84

Kate tweeted this morning:

GM!Smiling 2day bc of what Alexis said 2me: 'mommy it's special living here...(I agreed,meaning r home)..special because you're here!' XO!:)

I'm open for comments. Got any?

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Mmmmm... it's not clear to me.

Either her daughter said that it's "special living in her home because her mother lives with them...

-OR-

Her daughter said that it's "special" living in her home, and Kate told her that it's special because her daughter lives there...

Under normal circumstances, I would say that it's a lovely comment. But ever ever since Kate + her 8 were cancelled- and Hollywood doesn't want her either, she's using Twitter to stroke her monster sized insecure ego.







Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Tomatos welcome back. Please email me to collect your Farmer's Wife DVD.

TLC stinks said...

Admin, you are right. She disrespects people by calling them her "helpers"; they are landscapers, tutors, nannies, cooks, housekeepers, chauffeurs, etc. She downplays all that she hires because she still wants to give the impression she is doing it all. She implies they are volunteers by calling them helpers. She pays them for a service. Oh, and how about her use of "friends" all the time when it includes paid employees.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Under normal circumstances, I would say that it's a lovely comment. But ever ever since Kate + her 8 were cancelled- and Hollywood doesn't want her either, she's using Twitter to stroke her monster sized insecure ego.

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And, she's using her kids to justify her outlandish spending.

See folks I have to spend all this money on a house and nice life because my kids deserve to have something "special." And you have to help me.

Formerly Duped said...

Yes, she has! Maybe because she read how boring and meaningless her life ( and tweets) are in the Gabble article, or here ! Her new baking projects/lunch delivery scheme/ meat slicing are not cutting it ,lol. Didn't she RT something about rejection means people don't recognize your worth?

But , she has drooped hints about all these books - 'my next book' or my 'cookbook' -but her meals are not lauded by anyone but her kids, who are reluctant to come 'dancing with whoops of glee' to the table! Maybe a cameo, maybe a commercial for a corp? Who knows?

TLC stinks said...

Sassy, Kate will never give up Twitter because all she does is use it and her made-up children's comments to stroke her ego. I highly doubt Alexis made such a comment. And even if she did, to repeat it is again, wanting the world to know she is the best mommy out there. Poor kids.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Have we heard from Audible yet? Just reading cnn.com and it's scary.

Sassy Lassy said...

Excellent topic, Administrator.

Call Me Crazy said...

To Respectfully Disagree ... 87

"I am not prepared to belive that Kate buys for heerself but never for her kids."

In that entire conversation you are talking about, these words written by Kate's fan were, by far, the most telling. These words are what prompted me to write the "none so blind as those who will not see" line to which you are taking exception. "None so blind as those who will not see" is just a more poetic way of saying someone is in denial.

I believe that a lot of Kate's fans are in denial. They don't want to believe that she would put her own needs and desires above those of her children, despite seeing and hearing that very behavior played out time and again on video and in Twitterland. But she, and Jon at the time, did just that from the very moment they signed on to sell their children to the world.

My words were not a personal attack. They were an observation that I will continue to stand by.

"I am not prepared to belive that Kate buys for heerself but never for her kids."

No one has ever said she "never" buys for her kids. But she most certainly takes care of her own needs over theirs.

Thank you, everyone, who had kind words about my post. Gotta run, but I'll be back, Respectfully Disagree, if you have other questions for me.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Tanya saunders-lobin ‏@Tanyalobin
@Kateplusmy8 what time do u need to get up? Do u still have hired help?

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
@Tanyalobin 5:30 and mornings no... Afternoons for homework help I do sometimes.

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Kate answered she has no help in mornings. Kate's so crafty or thinks she is. LOL

Formerly Duped said...

Homework help? If the kids have issues ( dyslexia was thrown out there once) then a tutor is a good idea. But basically homework is for the kids to do. Not to say a parent shouldn't be available for questions or a little help. But even with EIGHT kids, Kate should be able to cover it on her own, especially as she doesn't have anything else to do- or is that when she has 'me-time?' She's always bragging how well the kids are doing at school, so homework should not be a problem, as it is for quite a number of children.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Kate answered she has no help in mornings. Kate's so crafty or thinks she is. LOL

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hahaha.

Also woman I would hope by now you have organized things enough that you can manage to get these kids fed and driven 10 minutes to the bus stop. They're not toddlers or bad kids. Good Lord what a martyr.

Is she implying she used to have help in the morning? I heard lately she's been cutting back the nanny's hours to save money.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I have to say homework can quickly get over a parent's head when they start to reach the twins age, especially math and science.....but eight year olds, come on Kate. Get off your lazy butt and help them yourself.

As for the twins if they need help with math or whatever, then that's not the worst thing to spend money on. But call them what they are please? A TUTOR.

NJGal51 said...

Why do I always hear Anthony Newley in my head whenever Kate starts farting rainbows first think in the morning....

There is a beautiful land
Where all your dreams come true;
It's all tied up in a rainbow,
All shiny and new;
OR
On a wonderful morning like this
When the sun is as big as a yellow balloon
Even the sparrows are singing in tune
On a wonderful morning like this

I'm sure the kids are dancing around the kitchen singing "Beautiful Land" every morning that rolls over as Kate breaks into a chorus of "On a Wonderful Day Like Today".

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Just speculating out loud. When Kate retweeted:

PsychicsUniverse ‏@PsychicsUnivers
Rejection doesn't mean you are not good enough; It means the other person failed to notice what you have to offer. -Mark Amend


it got me thinking about her obvious mania over the past week or so. I'm wondering if she is over-compensating (acting over the moon happy about everything in her life) for some rejection she recently experienced. The week before school she was continually complaining about the end of summer and the back to school early mornings then BAM! she's so happy and enthusiastic about life she's ready to explode. Damn, she's weird.

Kat said...

Pathological lying is more severe than compulsive lying...one is more severe than the other....pathologicals liars KNOW they're lying and just dont care....compulsive liars do it out of habit and is second nature to them...it does not go away....therapy and meds are whats needed....so says my husband...causes...OCD, bi polar, stemming from cildhood, poor self asteem.....or all of the above...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

The week before school she was continually complaining about the end of summer and the back to school early mornings then BAM! she's so happy and enthusiastic about life she's ready to explode. Damn, she's weird.

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The extreme highs and lows are scary. She never seems to settle down to somewhere in between that's more normal.

Kat, which kind of liar do you think Kate is?

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Twisting words again. IMHO I think Katie believes calling her after school 'babysitter' her homework helper is a title boost. Of course she has no morning help, it's only school unifoms, breakfast and off to school. The housecleaner 'helper' does dishes, makes beds, cleans bathroom. After school not-a-nanny is the play person, snack person and child minder, probably even does post dinner showers. And now she's a homework helper. Kate tweets all day and makes fabulous dinners. If she could find a 'chef helper', she would do that too.

AuntieAnn said...

Is Kate not rich and powerful enough yet to call them servants. "Helpers" seems so... well, mediocre.

SG said...

The narcissist in my life isn't really a "liar" as much as she is a person who never wants to admit the truth.

She has a way of changing history. She will deny she said or did something, either trivial or life-changing to the other people involved.

Just the other day she said the word SEX by accident. It made whatever she was saying really funny and we all laughed and said Imagine! She denied ever saying the word. There were 5 adults in the room that ALL her her said it. She insisted she didn't.

She even went to far as to say she didn't understand why we try to make it seem she said something she did not say. We all tried to explain it was no big deal... that we understood she didn't mean to say SEX, it was just funny.

She does things like that all the time. It's very frustrating, but expected.

SG said...

Sorry, above should read:
There were 5 adults in the room that ALL heard her said it. She insisted she didn't.

Improbable Dreams said...

I think the fact that she calls them "homework helpers," "laundry helpers," etc. is centered around her narcissism. These are her peeps--the People who Know How to Help Her!

Blowing In The Wind said...

Disagree @87 quoted posters...

"I guess this poster missed the laundry room floor episode or Collin's constipation problem when her main focus was on picking out furniture. It's all recorded on film. There's nothing subject to personal interpretation.

The posters here are right. You can't have any kind of logical discussion when someone is so clueless. They see what they want to see, through rose-colored glasses. They even laughed with Kate about her speeding tickets. I wonder what it is going to take for them to wake up and smell the coffee, if they ever do. Will they continue to defend her no matter what?"

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I remember that comment. It was in response to someone saying that she didn't remember Kate ignoring her children. The person pointed out two episodes in which Kate did ignore a child, followed by an opinion. If this is interpreted as "definitely ridiculing," then I guess that some have different definitions of the word.

SG said...

I distinctly recall Jon saying that he helps the older girls with their math homework because he's really good at math.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I don't think any mother with two kids let alone eight truly doing it on her own could tweet as much as Kate does in the evenings.

There's the carpool, you have to help with homework, there's dinner to cook, get ready for the next day, then presumably you hopefully have time to maybe go for a little walk or play a game or watch tv together then it's showers and bedtime routine. The afternoon/evening flies by and you're lucky if you managed to sit down. I don't understand how you squeeze in one tweet let alone have time to read all the tweets Kate does and respond to as many as she does if you're actually being present and caring for eight kids.

The only explanation is of course the NANNY is there doing it all so Kate can stand there and tweet. And then they're at Jon's too.

TLC stinks said...

I want to add that with Kate's impatience and anger explosions, I am absolutely sure those kids know just what to say to keep the momster calm. They know to stroke her ego and just do her bidding. It will get interesting when the teen years roll around. Some will continue that routine but others will rebel.

My fear has been some stoopid man will marry her and she'll trick him into having more babies.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

It's one thing to debate whether used sports equipment is acceptable, the merits of their school vs public, whether giving to consignment is acceptable, etc. Quite another to debate with someone who thinks the world is flat.

I agree with the poster who says they come here to prove we are "haters." They come here and post outlandish things about Kate that couldn't possibly be true then get upset when someone calls them out on their ridiculous statements and run away crying about how mean the people are here.

Pulling The Wool said...

...but eight year olds, come on Kate. Get off your lazy butt and help them yourself.
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But according to Kate, these kids are all at the top of their class, so I can't imagine they would need that much help with homework. This is second grade. It's not upper school AP science.

SG said...

I think the reason that sometimes people don't reply "respectfully" to the Kate fans when they defend Kate, or make light of what she does, is it is really hard to respect enablers.

The people that ignore Kate mistreating her children or husband or anyone else (ex Sarah Palin or the instructor at the Sky Walk) or excuse her other bad behavior are enabling her.

Kate is exploiting her children every chance she gets and her fans are enabling that. They are part of the problem.

TLC stinks said...

I had two kids and evenings were nonstop for me, so yes indeed, there must be help in the evenings (and Mady and Cara may be burdened with the tups also). She was probably overjoyed to have the kids out of the house more often with Jon.

Anonymous said...

he narcissist in my life isn't really a "liar" as much as she is a person who never wants to admit the truth.

She has a way of changing history. She will deny she said or did something, either trivial or life-changing to the other people involved.

Just the other day she said the word SEX by accident. It made whatever she was saying really funny and we all laughed and said Imagine! She denied ever saying the word. There were 5 adults in the room that ALL her her said it. She insisted she didn't.

She even went to far as to say she didn't understand why we try to make it seem she said something she did not say. We all tried to explain it was no big deal... that we understood she didn't mean to say SEX, it was just funny.
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I worked with a girl like that. She was pissed at me one day, and called me a bitch. Two other coworkers HEARD her say it, she vehemently denied ever saying it. The owner of the company believed HER because she cried and cried about it, how she never said it, I must have misheard, I WAS MEAN TO HER, blah, blah, blah. I ended up getting REPRIMANDED and threatened that if I was not nice to her, I would get FIRED.

The girl (she was in her 20s, but she was no way nature enough to be called an adult) was a hot mess, NPD, pathological liar.

I quit that job as soon as I could, because it was a place that LOVED her as she lied every second of every day about everything, in order to make herself look good and present a front to the owner that she could handle her workload. It was UNBEARABLE to be in a room with her. And the owner was NPD also, they fed off each other.

heather

Tucker's Mom said...

The extreme highs and lows are scary. She never seems to settle down to somewhere in between that's more normal.
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I think her mood disorder has been progressing. I give you the NYC episode where Kate was waving on the bus like the Queen of England, running in hooker heels with ice cream, screeching, boobs bouncing, climbing up to "drive" the boat in Daisy Dukes and gladiator stilletos.
It was like she went off the rails. She was manic and so inappropriate that I'm surprised someone didn't pull her aside to try to calm her down.
Kate won't call the tutor a tutor because that would take credit away from her and maybe imply the any of the kids has a learning problem.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


I think the reason that sometimes people don't reply "respectfully" to the Kate fans when they defend Kate, or make light of what she does, is it is really hard to respect enablers.

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That's a really good point SG. It is hard to respect someone who defends a child exploiter and nasty person.

Just like if there is an alcoholic in the family and everyone wants them to get help but then there are one or two people trying to say they are not so bad and they have a right to do what they want and are in denial about the bad things that have happened, you bet there are probably going to be some nasty fights between the people doing the RIGHT THING and the enablers.

SG said...

Kate tweets way too much for a mother that has EIGHT children to care for.

If she has all those children at home she could use that tweeting time to spend some quality alone time with just one child.

When you have eight children it's so much harder to have that quality one-on-one time with each child. Why wouldn't Kate take advantage of that time?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Kate needs to catch up with the trends. All the rich people have tutors even if your kid is the smartest in the class.

Don't forget sucking on that lollipop in NYC barefoot. While Joel got a broken one. Bitch couldn't even give him hers.

She really was manic then.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


When you have eight children it's so much harder to have that quality one-on-one time with each child. Why wouldn't Kate take advantage of that time?

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That's what ticks me off. You have so LITTLE time as it is with eight children why would you waste a second of it tweeting to strangers? Make no mistake these kids are going to catch on and fast where her priorities are.

I really wish the fans would just band together and ignore her at night and gently encourage her to get off it and go be present with the kids. If they really loved her they would not talk to her in the evenings when she is supposed to be with her children. It's selfishness on their part too commanding her attention when they know the kids are there.

KAT said...

I can't say what kind of liar she is since all of this info is coming from my husband...hes the professional, not me. I only know that he said that someone who compulsively lies has one or more disorders...he deals with a lot of this on a daily basis...most of his patients have OCD...of course some more severe than others....the fact that she's not in reality is a good indicator of OCD. Also it can reflect in getting a job or keeping a job. I don't know if she crosses that line of a pathological liar...it can escalate to that. All he knows is from his experience with it, meds are needed. I know people hate her for this but this is a real illness like any other and should be addressed but unfortunatly most people with this can't even fathom they have a problem. Thats right...she's oblivious and will not even entertain the idea she's a liar... it's all she knows...It's part of her daily life..like cleaning the house, or making dinner...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

@MiloandJack in total dear sweet love,my adored(by many) grandpa used2call babies 'time wasters' bc no1 can ever put a snuggly baby down!:) 18 minutes ago

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The only relatives she loves and adores are dead and can't defend themselves.

TLC stinks said...

Whaaat! No tweet concern about Gulf Breeze where she just spent her FREE beach vacay.

SG said...

Admin said...
The only relatives she loves and adores are dead and can't defend themselves.
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She can also talk about them however she wants without worry that they will tell the world what Kate is really like.

Jumping In said...

Kate lies, but in her mind it is the truth. No-one calls her out on her "discrepancies" because it would be pointless, in her mind there are no untruths being told. Besides, she is Teflon coated, anyone calling her to account would be greeted with the patented eye-roll and huff.

My 80 year old aunt fancied herself as a fashion plate. When I visited her, she would have my uncle parade out her garment bags to show me her recent purchases, all from high-end stores. She was particularly pleased with a black cocktail dress with a HUGE red rose print. She was giddy when she asked me what I thought of it. My response, was "oh, it's just beautiful Aunt Marg". That was a lie, it was hideous, but she loved the dress, and of course I wanted to spare her feelings. That Christmas she gave me the exact same dress in my size, and once again I lied and said I loved it.

My initial lie (more like a fib, I suppose) brought joy to my aunt, but by telling it, it cost her a tidy sum, which I felt quite guilty about, but again, it brought her joy. That Christmas we took pictures of us dressed alike, and away she went back home, hundreds of miles away, never the wiser. My siblings could barely keep a strait face knowing my false compliment of this dress was why I wound up wearing it myself.

So, that is a story of a little white lie and all it's consequences, good and bad. The difference between myself and Kate is, I see all the little ripples it caused. No real harm was done, but the truth got buried in my little white lie, and I wound up in an expensive, ugly dress because of it. After my aunt passed away, I donated it, so hopefully someone saw it and said, " I love this dress"!, and that would bring me joy.



Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I doubt Kate even realizes there is a hurricane let alone undertands it's going right through where they just spent their free vacation.

Speaking of hurricanes Audible check in please!

This is a really sweet photo from a little girl who had to evacuate and leave her stuffed animals behind. She left them rules to follow while she is gone!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/little-girl-evacuating-for-isaac-leaves-instructio

SG said...

Kate keeping the good lollipop for herself and giving her little son a broken one was so telling. And the kids was upset about it too, it's not like he didn't care. Really, how can ANYONE defend that?

Tucker's Mom said...

When you have eight children it's so much harder to have that quality one-on-one time with each child. Why wouldn't Kate take advantage of that time?
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I think that Kate just gave up and that people who really meant well by helping with the kids conditioned Kate to pull away and just leave the nurturing to others.
I can't tell what kind of liar Kate is, but I sure she lies daily when it comes to the kids. I doesn't matter to Kate that there's years and countless hours documenting her, she will spin her tales.
Loving making lunches for the kids? You're kidding, right? We all saw the back to school lunch packing where Kate was absolutely miserable packing lunches, didn't know who liked what and screamed like a banchee when the kids didn't recite how to eat their lunches in unison.
Loving being with the kids? Where to begin. Let's take the first hand account from someone who was there observing Kate not interacting or playing with the kids, complaining bitterly and ordering them to leave after 20 minutes when they could have had terrific fun for hours given that the farm had lots of activities to engage in.
Kate alluded to being in the maze for SO LONG! She sat there in her little chair, looked at the producer and embellished their visit so that if no one was there to report it, everyone would think they had a blast for hours.
She's sick.

CS said...

fidosmommy said:

GM!Smiling 2day bc of what Alexis said 2me: 'mommy it's special living here...(I agreed,meaning r home)..special because you're here!' XO!:)

I'm open for comments. Got any?

Is this normal for an eight year old to make statements like this ,and to ALWAYS thank mom for wonderful meals etc?
I can't help but wonder if there was something wrong with my child at this age. She hardly ever said thank you. Why should she? I'm her mother and its my job! Why the hell should she thank me?

Layla said...

From last thread:
butterfly said... 43
Ok, everyone, Layla uncovered me- Now I have to change my name, go Pink instead of Blue and remain in hiding for awhile, :D

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No worries, Butterfly, I have no clue who you are and that's fine with me! No interest in "outing" anyone! I will continue to envision you as our brave soldier-lady who's going hand-to-hand with the terrorists and keeping us all safe.

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As for next blog-party, it needs to be Sept. 12th. One year from date of last K+8 episode ever! Full, complete fredom for the kids. Now that's something to celebrate!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Lollipop gate is still on youtube and we did a post awhile back with screen captures:

http://www.realitytvkids.com/2010/09/lollipop-gate-kate-plus-8-webisode.html

It was worse than I remembered! As I remember Joel got a broken one and Kate took a nice one. I forgot that it was KATE herself who broke the lollipop when she was trying to rip it out of the package, then instead of saying oh whoopsie Mommy will take that one, she gives it to Joel and takes a nice one for herself. Seems like a small thing but the metaphor is glaring.

Formerly Duped said...

Kate did say on the first back-to-school show that her nanny came at 5 AM to do hair, help with dressing etc. At that age, that's understandable I guess. But now the girls jut have their hair down or in ponytails and I imagine can dress themselves.

She also tweeted a while back that M and C take care of showers in the PM. age eight- should be able to shower on their own IMO.

Respectfully Disagree said...

Blowing In The Wind said... 128
Disagree @87 quoted posters...

"I guess this poster missed the laundry room floor episode or Collin's constipation problem when her main focus was on picking out furniture. It's all recorded on film. There's nothing subject to personal interpretation.

The posters here are right. You can't have any kind of logical discussion when someone is so clueless. They see what they want to see, through rose-colored glasses. They even laughed with Kate about her speeding tickets. I wonder what it is going to take for them to wake up and smell the coffee, if they ever do. Will they continue to defend her no matter what?"

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I remember that comment. It was in response to someone saying that she didn't remember Kate ignoring her children. The person pointed out two episodes in which Kate did ignore a child, followed by an opinion. If this is interpreted as "definitely ridiculing," then I guess that some have different definitions of the word.

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The "pointing out two episodes" part is not ridiculing. The "so clueless" part is. The poster could have identified the two episodes to support their point without throwing in the "so clueless" part.

Formerly Duped said...

Post disappeared- sorry if it repeats..

On the first back-to-school episode, Kate said her nanny came at 5AM to do hair, and help dress the kids. Now they all have ponytails or wear their hair down, so hopefully can dress themselves.

Kate tweeted a while ago that M and C take care of the 'littles' showers. IMO at age 8, they should be able to manage on their own. There's really not a lot Kate needs to do that other moms don't, regardless of having EIGHT kids.

SG said...

Admin,
Yes, and Joel is clearly upset and actually says something like "I don't want a broken one."

I don't understand how Kate can open hers without breaking it and not be excited to say, Ooh! Here Joel! Take this one, mommy will eat that one."

And if she's worried about spoiling him, or whatever excuse the fans will give on her behalf, she can easily explain that things won't always work out that way, etc, etc.

Rhymes with Witch said...

My fear has been some stoopid man will marry her and she'll trick him into having more babies. 131

I had a similar thought, but realized she'll never give up her grifted, sculpted body.

As for next blog-party, it needs to be Sept. 12th. One year from date of last K+8 episode ever! Full, complete freedom for the kids. Now that's something to celebrate! 151

ABSOLUTELY!

Sassy Lassy said...

Kate's Latest Making It Clear TWITter:

@xxxxxxxxxxx in total dear sweet love,my adored(by many) grandpa used2call babies 'time wasters' bc no1 can ever put a snuggly baby down!:) 58 minutes ago

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Oh, yeah Kate.

You DEFINITELY read everything the naysayers have to say, otherwise you would not be explaining yourself over and over again.

Learn anything?

Kate is a twit said...

Kate impresses me as a person that needs constant validation of what a wonderful mother and person she is. She tweets how much the kids love her, thank her, and rave about her meals. By doing that, she opens up the opportunity for her fans to do the same. It also shows when she retweets praise from her fans. Without the constant praise, she couldn't survive. Her ego needs constant feeding.

If she actually thought she was doing a wonderful job-she wouldn't need to tweet the praises and accolades from both her children and her fans.

Tamara said...

YES. Just another way to downplay their role and disrespect what they are. God, I never worked for anyone who didn't give me the respect to call me what I am. A nanny, a tutor, a lawyer.

Not a babysitter, not a homework helper, not someone helping me with a legal problem. Geez
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And that on it's own is a psychological disorder. Does Khate do it to try and build herself up by dissing those people? Does she think it's cute? Is she too stupid to know the word 'tutor'? I giver her a slight pass with the babysitter/nanny thing because that was started by the TLC producers.

koop dedoo said...

Kids and homework - from my experience with only 3 kids, by 2nd grade I was only around to keep them on task and point them in the direction of the craft supplies if they needed them for a project.

By 6th grade, my kids would roll their eyes if I checked on them during homework.

koop dedoo said...

(and I have been rockin' some version of the Statue of Liberty lollipop since I gave up the black gladiator hooker heels on day 2 of "blue")

Sassy Lassy said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 152

Lollipop gate is still on youtube and we did a post awhile back with screen captures:

http://www.realitytvkids.com/2010/09/lollipop-gate-kate-plus-8-webisode.html

It was worse than I remembered! As I remember Joel got a broken one and Kate took a nice one. I forgot that it was KATE herself who broke the lollipop when she was trying to rip it out of the package, then instead of saying oh whoopsie Mommy will take that one, she gives it to Joel and takes a nice one for herself. Seems like a small thing but the metaphor is glaring.



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It only proves that while she may initialy mean well, Kate's just plain inconsiderate.

What's also pitiful is that someone gave that much airtime to a bunch of kids, their mother, friend, sucking on lollipops on a ferry- AND presuming that it's entertaining t.v.

PAINFULLY BORING. Running through the streets in frustration boring. Jamming forks into my eyes, because it's more entertaining than that sh*t boring.

Dear God, thank you for eliminating that stupid series. How about getting rid of the other stupid shows on Discovery/TLC?

Kristine said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 18

"Kristine I wish I were more up to speed on this Teen Mom thing because I keep hearing more and more bad things about it..."
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Oh, it's bad. I wouldn't say Katie 2.0, but disturbing to watch. From physical violence, to child exploitation, to boob jobs-- it's all there. Fortunately, MTV aired the Teen Mom original cast's final episode this week. 16 & Prego will still be around though. The material for a Blog was endless!

Finally, if lying makes people happier- I must be one miserable person to live with. Too bad... 'truthing' makes me feel FREE (and honest). So I'll just continue to do me, and keep myself morally sound. At least I will never have to fret about others finding me out, and questioning my character. Seems like the safe choice to make.

Sassy Lassy said...

I meant "initially", not initialy.

My fingers type faster than my brain thinks....

Sheri said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 152

"It was worse than I remembered! As I remember Joel got a broken one and Kate took a nice one. I forgot that it was KATE herself who broke the lollipop when she was trying to rip it out of the package, then instead of saying oh whoopsie Mommy will take that one, she gives it to Joel and takes a nice one for herself. Seems like a small thing but the metaphor is glaring."

Another one of the "worst Mommy" moments was Mady and the water incident. Here was Mady very literally begging for some water and someone hands Kate a water bottle for the child. What does Super Mommy Kate do? She sternly tells Mady to wait and then opens the bottle a takes a big sip right in front of her thirsty child.

Gobsmacked doesn't even begin to describe it. A huge red flag went off in my head and it was another of those, "if that's how she treats them in PUBLIC wtf goes on behind closed doors" scenarios.

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fidosmommy said:

GM!Smiling 2day bc of what Alexis said 2me: 'mommy it's special living here...(I agreed,meaning r home)..special because you're here!' XO!:)

"I'm open for comments. Got any?"

Yes, yes I do. Kate has to have the saddest, weakest and neediest ego I have ever seen. It must be so scary to live inside her head when there isn't anyone around to tell her how absolutely fabulous, wonderful and amazing she is. Which is why, imo, she will never quit twitter. As long as the Milo's of the world keep feeding her, she will be right there gobbling it up.

Jellus...yeah, sure. *rolls eyes*

Sassy Lassy said...

Kristine said... 163

[excerpt]
Finally, if lying makes people happier- I must be one miserable person to live with. Too bad... 'truthing' makes me feel FREE (and honest). So I'll just continue to do me, and keep myself morally sound. At least I will never have to fret about others finding me out, and questioning my character. Seems like the safe choice to make.

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I agree. Eventually, lying will ALWAYS jump up & bite you in the tuchus.

You're better off keeping it honest.

Kristine said...

"Dear God, thank you for eliminating that stupid series... someone gave that much airtime to a bunch of kids, their mother, friend, sucking on lollipops on a ferry..."
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Haha... Sassy/Pink!

Watching Katie eat that all-day sucker was absolute torture. She required "the good lolly", for that TV performance. Bring on the forks. The photos can be found in Radar's archives... some horrifying pics of K.I.K.

Waving to Jon too...(Hey, SG!- from your DM Buddy ;)

DebbieDowner4 said...

I haven't started reading the comments yet, but this is interesting...

A few years ago, on the show "Wife Swap" there was a 15 or 16 year old girl, beauty pagent queen, who was portrayed as a spoiled brat - getting a present every day under the year round Christmas tree in the living room, her parents did her homework for her, and when she was made to waitress and was yelled at by her boss, she went running to her daddy, who, of course, blamed everyone but her.

Google Alicia Guastaferro

Well, she was just arrested for prostitution, and has admited addiction to prescription drugs, and booze. She was bullied out of school, and had sucicidal thoughts.

She was a total BRAT on the show, but she was a teenager at the time. The G8 had no say from day one. I cringe when I think of what awaits them in their future. God willing, they will be mentally healthy and have successful jobs, relationships, and maintain a bond with each other.

It just AMAZES me that Grifty does not care. There is no privacy - she posts pics of them reading, eating, and its a safe bet that she makes up words such as "hairplane" and "sammynella" to make the kids sound like toddlers. High school is going to be HELL for these kids.

Grifty, stop the BS of "no never means no to me". The talk show is never going to happen.
Hollywood will never have you or your cute-but-not-that-special kids. Stop embarassing them and yourself by promising a dating show, running around with a married man, and dressing like a streetwalker. Holly Robinson Pete recently tweeted a pic of a blond with short shorts and hooker shoes and thought it was you. Even SHE thinks you're a bitch.

Kate still wants fame, and people in hell want ice water. Which one will happen first?

Kristine said...

Yep, Sassy Lassy... there are way too many compulsive liars on this planet already.

"Keeping Them Honest"-- as Anderson Cooper says!

kris said...

And the reason I don't believe her 'happy, happy, joy, joy' twits is because we've all seen how she runs her household. For many years we've seen her scream at her kids for all talking at once (but then tells how wonderful it was to hear all the BTS X 8 at once), we've heard her tell the kids 'you get what you get & you don't get upset' when they want something different. I do not believe any of that has changed. Especially now with the stress of non-steady income is on her.

kris said...

Oh and another thing! lol The kids homework, six of them are in the same grade. Even if they are in different classes, there homework is most likely the same. So it's not like she's dealing with 8 different sets of homework. The twins probably have different homework but I doubt the others do.

Formerly Duped said...

Some of the Teen Mom 'stars' have done Kate-like things with their earnings, such as boob jobs, living the glam life or getting into trouble . Farrah's music'...puh-leeze. Like Kate, her voice is her best asset...NOT. And, that girl is a complete bitch to her parents. The best role models are the pair who gave their daughter up for adoption and have gone on to college, despite both growing up in highly dysfunctional families and being parentized.

There are two news show I see, High school Mom, and one where a Mom and Teen are Pregnant at the Same Time ( forget title)

No thanks!

Blowing In The Wind said...

The "so clueless" part is.

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Why is that ridiculing? The person was clueless. Clueless means "having no knowledge," "uninformed," which is clearly what the person was on that subject.

If words bother you, then it's time you move on and find a blog where one word isn't going to offend you.

Admin is correct. Posters here have been burned so many times with drive-bys that it's hard to tell the sincere posters from those who have no place to go other than here to stir things up. It gets tiresome after awhile and trying to have a reasonable discussion is like talking to a blank wall. No, that's not ridiculing. It's an idiomatic expression.

Griftopia said...

"GM!Smiling 2day bc of what Alexis said 2me: 'mommy it's special living here...(I agreed,meaning r home)..special because you're here!' XO!:)"

Who needs ipecac when you have Kate's tweets to induce vomiting?

Blowing In The Wind said...

Is this normal for an eight year old to make statements like this ,and to ALWAYS thank mom for wonderful meals etc?

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No, it's not normal. It seems like the kids are painfully aware of their mother's insecurity and that she is needy. If thanking her constantly helps just a little bit, that's what they do. I think that they sense that she thrives on this and perhaps it makes their life at home a bit more bearable. By their age they know when something's not right and they've lived with her long enough to know how they can help fix it -- by praising her.

emschick1128 said...

Kate is a Twit; I totally agree with your assessment of her for constant for praise and reinforcement that she is this wonderful person and supermom. I always find it assuming the way she will retweet fans compliments and praise. If she wasn't so needy and insecure she wouldn't need her ego continuously stroked. She even admitted the other day that she has a "helper" to assist with cleaning the home. What the hell does she need that for? She has no job and with the exception of her endless paperwork,errands and running what else does she do? Oh and I forgot preparing her gourmet meals every night. She made sure we knew the other day that a cold didn't get her down and that she was superwoman once again despite it.

Dwindle said...

SG said... 134
I think the reason that sometimes people don't reply "respectfully" to the Kate fans when they defend Kate, or make light of what she does, is it is really hard to respect enablers.

The people that ignore Kate mistreating her children or husband or anyone else (ex Sarah Palin or the instructor at the Sky Walk) or excuse her other bad behavior are enabling her.

Kate is exploiting her children every chance she gets and her fans are enabling that. They are part of the problem.

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I want to thank you for this post SG. It really made me aware of my own attitude towards Kate's few fans; I think I DO hold them partly responsible for what has happened to those children. I probably will continue to feel that way, but will try to be more aware of my bias when reading fans posts in the future, so I dont take offense any faster than need be.

Sometimes I feel like I am reading Rudolph Hess and Heinrich Himmler asking us what we have against poor misunderstood Adolf Hitler who never hurt anyone and those pesky 6 million dead people are just the imaginations of meanie film editors and jellus haterz.

So thanks to you SG, I will try to be aware of my assumptions about posters who want to engage in a proper discussion of the facts.

(If this sounds snarky towards YOU, dear SG, I dont mean it to at all!)

Dwindle said...

Blowing In The Wind said... 175
Is this normal for an eight year old to make statements like this ,and to ALWAYS thank mom for wonderful meals etc?

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No, it's not normal. It seems like the kids are painfully aware of their mother's insecurity and that she is needy. If thanking her constantly helps just a little bit, that's what they do. I think that they sense that she thrives on this and perhaps it makes their life at home a bit more bearable. By their age they know when something's not right and they've lived with her long enough to know how they can help fix it -- by praising her.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Frankly, I think we are looking the development of the children's future psychological problems, brewing right before our eyes in real time. Live with plenty of commercial interruptions. IF what Kate says about the kids' constant praise and over flowing gratitude is real.

Over In Kate's County said...

Admin said, Kate needs to catch up with the trends. All the rich people have tutors even if your kid is the smartest in the class.

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If the kids need homework help, or are having a problem in one subject, there is IU assistance for free during the school day. It's the same group that provides speech therapy at no cost. In addition, upper schoolers may also volunteer to help the younger kids with problem areas. Kate needs to get her act together and find out what programs are available if her kids need help. I'm wondering if she hires a person specifically to help with homework, or if the sitter is responsible for this.

Tucker's Mom said...

I want to thank you for this post SG. It really made me aware of my own attitude towards Kate's few fans; I think I DO hold them partly responsible for what has happened to those children. I probably will continue to feel that way, but will try to be more aware of my bias when reading fans posts in the future, so I dont take offense any faster than need be.
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I feel guilty for watching too. I watched the "separation" episode despite my better judgement.
I have no problem with thinking that Kate's fans who beg her to put her children back on TV need to shut up. Notice that whenever Kate brings up the kids wanting to be back on TV, not one interviewer runs with it or says, "oh that would be great!". They just look at her sort of speechless.
It shouldn't be encouraged.

Bluebird said...

Did Kate not mention that she had 3 marathons coming up in September and that one would be a full marathon. She's not tweeted much about running lately. Or will she only tweet about the marathons after the fact?

One thing I'm fairly sure was a lie was the full marathon she claims to have run. When she was interviewed last autumn and winter she never once mentioned the full marathon only the half marathons and shorter runs, which leads me to believe that she never did do the full one.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate tweet about running her first marathon. Did she ever run another after Las Vegas?
Also put me down as not believing she ran the whole thing.

Bluebird said...

Weird, I posted regarding her marathons, saw it published but when I look again my posting disappeared. I'll see if this one stays.

Dwindle said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 102
The kids have learned to just suck up to Kate and suck up as much as possible for their own protection. What Kate thinks is sweet I'm starting to find really creepy.
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I am finding it disturbing. It's not this comment that put me over the edge, it was the one earlier about the kids happily dancing to school blah blah blah. Her insistance that her life is like 1960s Disney cartoon movie is disturbing to me.

IF the children are daily telling her (X8!!!!!!!!) how greatful they are for their very existance (next it will be 'thank you mommy for growing us these lungs! I love the oxygen in our bestest house!! You're the greasest mom ever x8!!!!') they are saying these things to soothe her, calm her, and to try to make her like them for a minute and perhaps ensure a little less verbal abuse as well as shoulder pinching and red spooning.

If they are NOT saying these things, they are will very soon realize this kind of blather was expected of them and once again they failed to meet their mother's basic expectations of them.She was forced to make it all up because they didnt know how to help her. And they are going to have to live with the psychological ramifications of that.

Either way, this is not good at all and something is still very wrong in that household.

Heide said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 132

I agree with the poster who says they come here to prove we are "haters." They come here and post outlandish things about Kate that couldn't possibly be true then get upset when someone calls them out on their ridiculous statements and run away crying about how mean the people are here.
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Yes!!!

TLC stinks said...

I hope she is making up what the kids say to her, otherwise I agree those kids have been brainwashed to say nice things to stroke mom's ego. It is disturbing either way.

Kate is a twit said...

IMO, the more Kate tweets about the children loving her, and loving how she takes care of them(i.e. praising her meals,etc.)the more it shows how just insecure she is. She needs constant praise to survive. A mother who feels confident in herself, and in her way of raising her children, wouldn't have the need to constantly use her children to praise herself.

She comes across as a very insecure person, who depends on her children and her fans for positive feed back.

Respectfully Disagree said...

Blowing In The Wind said... 173

Why is that ridiculing? The person was clueless. Clueless means "having no knowledge," "uninformed," which is clearly what the person was on that subject.

If words bother you, then it's time you move on and find a blog where one word isn't going to offend you.

Admin is correct. Posters here have been burned so many times with drive-bys that it's hard to tell the sincere posters from those who have no place to go other than here to stir things up. It gets tiresome after awhile and trying to have a reasonable discussion is like talking to a blank wall. No, that's not ridiculing. It's an idiomatic expression.

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Calling someone "clueless" is not respectful, period. I really don't care if you choose to use the word, but stop with the holier than thou "we are so respectful here" garbage. If you would feel respected after being called clueless, then you really are, well, clueless. LOL.

clueless
Origin
World English Dictionary
clueless (ˈkluːlɪs)

— adj
slang helpless; stupid

www.dictionary.com

The Bitter End said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 117
Is she implying she used to have help in the morning? I heard lately she's been cutting back the nanny's hours to save money.
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It could be that Katie is cutting back on the nanny's hours because the children are at Jon's place 50% of the time.

Localyocul said...

Here is what I do not understand. This was one of, if not THE first episode of Kate Plus 8 and was supposed to unveil the new Can Do Kate!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb20lmfTh5E

The whole episode contains examples of everything people here have been talking about. What I don't get though, is she bitches and moans, throws fits, wishes she were elsewhere, the whole episode. So where in the hello do her fans get the idea she is full of energy and positivity? I don't get it!!

As to the kids thankfulness, check out the video at 12:11. Kate is "feeding lunch" on the patio. She has a bitch fit about the sliding glass door, proclaiming her rule. The look on Mady's face is heartbreaking. Anyway right after that someone says "thank you for the peanut butter and jelly" and someone else says "thank you." I wonder if it is a house rule (with penalty of severeness) that when they are served a meal they are to thank mommy for it.

At the end of the episode, she makes her all-egg-dinner. At 40:56 Mady proclaims the meal "disgusting" (gasp! No five star thumbs up?) She hate's eggs.

At 41:30, the kids actually do cheer. Why? Because mommy is actually eating dessert which she never does and obviously they they realize she never eats dessert. Right after this Mady, who thought the dinner was disgusting, says a scripted-sounding line about how appreciative (yes she actually says that) they all are for her making meals like this for them. (WTH)

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Respectfully Disagree said... 186 Calling someone "clueless" is not respectful, period.....If you would feel respected after being called clueless, then you really are, well, clueless.
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And therefore, you are disrespectful.

This is like shooting fish in a barrel.

AuntieAnn said...

TLC stinks said... 144

Whaaat! No tweet concern about Gulf Breeze where she just spent her FREE beach vacay.
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I should say not. Yesterday or the day before she said she has eight "tornadoes" of her own to deal with. That's far worse than a silly hurricane somewhere where it's no concern of hers.

Tucker's Mom said...

Localyocul said... 188
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The kids know to thank Kate and make it all about her. The RV episodes with Kate making pancakes showed how irritated she gets when the kids forget to thank her.
The egg dinner was a fun idea, but again, 1/2 a sandwich, 1/2 a deviled egg and 5 pieces of veg.
No kids got to help themselves at the dinner table. I hope at some time, some place they learn how to eat family style, pass food properly etc.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kate's sheeple are so concerned that people don't show Kate respect yet they are silent when it comes to Kate showing her kids no respect or her fans for that matter. Her sheeple are an odd lot.

Respectfully Disagree said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 189
Respectfully Disagree said... 186 Calling someone "clueless" is not respectful, period.....If you would feel respected after being called clueless, then you really are, well, clueless.
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And therefore, you are disrespectful.


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I didn't say it wasn't disrespectful. Therein lies the difference. Folks here are claiming to behave in a manner that clearly contradicts their actual behavior.

Midnight Madness said...

Calling someone "clueless" is not respectful, period. I really don't care if you choose to use the word, but stop with the holier than thou "we are so respectful here" garbage. If you would feel respected after being called clueless, then you really are, well, clueless. LOL.

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You're looking for an argument here, but I don't know with whom or why. Time to give it up because all you are doing is proving Admin's point about stirring things up. It's over, done. Period.

SG said...

Speaking of the kids saying Thank You... How about the time they said thank you to Kate for the puppies and Kate, in her snotty way, yells back You're NOT welcome!

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