From that Futon critic article== "experience dating for the first time in more than 18 years! " What the heck? Didn't she "date" that Jeff for several months before he got smart and dumped her for a younger blonde?
Merry Christmas to all from Gordon, who is celebrating one month in the USA and dozens of milestones since he was such a scared and shut down little boy. What a blessing this year!
From that Futon critic article== "experience dating for the first time in more than 18 years! " What the heck? Didn't she "date" that Jeff for several months before he got smart and dumped her for a younger blonde?
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They did an entire episode about her going on a date in NYC with a headshot. That's not "dating"? Headshot or not I think it counts.
Yeah. She was counting on Mr Millionaire to carry on her “pretend i have a boyfriend and I’m not really boinking the body guard” mom of 8 tv show til he figured it out in the nick of time that he was only a “boyfriend for ratings”. Sorry Kate. The rich, SMART one got away
Merry Christmas everyone. Winston puppy and I are enjoying a short vacation at the coast of Oregon. Winston loves being able to run off least at the beach.
Jon posted a lovely picture of smiling kids (his and hers) and a beautifully decorated tree. Looks like everyone enjoyed themselves today. And Collin is looking great. :)
🎄Merry Christmas everyone! 🎅🏻 Admin, please give that cutie pie Gordon a big hug and kiss from me.
I just checked Jon's Instagram and saw that he did a Christmas post just within the last hour. Omg, does this picture make me so happy! What a beautiful family! Collin looks healthy, happy, and so handsome!!
What a beautiful picture of Jon, Colleen, and all the kids! Collin looks so clear-eyed and happy. What a handsome young man he is turning out to be! They really look like a family--a happy, loving, stable and functional family unit, which is exactly what Collin and Hannah need and deserve. Well done, Jon.
Oh Jon just made me very happy....lovely Christmas picture with Hannah and COLIN! Merry Christmas to all and thank you admin....for this caring, intelligent forum. M.
Jon's Christmas photo is heartwarming. I am so glad that Jon is making a home of two of his children. I also think that Colleen must be a very special woman.
Oh, how I wish our dear friend GollyGee could see that picture! C's struggles truly hurt her heart. She'd be so delighted to know how things have turned out.
Colleen (Colleen.conrad122) has a great post up on IG with multiple pictures. All the pictures are great but the picture of Jon and Collin is a must see. They both look so happy.
Merry Christmas and a happy new year to everyone.Im glad Collin was able to celebrate Christmas with his dad.Lets hope 2019 will be the year that Jon gets to spend Christmas with more of his kids.
"From psychics to genetic specialists to royalty matchmakers, Kate is willing to try anything to get the help she needs to find her perfect man."
This is so funny. What the heck is a genetic specialist in terms of dating? And we always knew Kate thought she was royalty. Was she gonna do a crossover show with the TLC psychic?
Good to see the picture from Jon. So genuine. It's a breath of fresh air after Kate's posts of cinnamon buns, baking a million cookies, and sad tree pictures. Happy Holidays to everyone.
I truly wish & hope all of the online publications pick up Jon's Christmas family photo & post it. To see how happy & healthy his two children look in HIS care, especially Collin. He looks like a different boy. Suck it Kate.
What a lovely family Christmas photos. Collin looks smart in stylish clothes, a nice haircut and big smile, slim again. His family all look so happy too. I do hope this is permanent!
@shortgustie82- I think he’s on the spectrum and being home with Kate didn’t work well with him, too much going on, too much stimulation around, etc..
Jongosselin@ shortgustie82- he is not on any spectrum or special needs
First off, I hate it when people make assumptions like this. But Jon basically confirmed that C is not autistic,on the spectrum, and does not have a “fairly fluid diagnosis” that Kate made it out to be. His “problems” are more than likely caused by his evil mother and the ways she’s treated him since birth.
Gigi Be said... 32 @shortgustie82- I think he’s on the spectrum and being home with Kate didn’t work well with him, too much going on, too much stimulation around, etc..
Jongosselin@ shortgustie82- he is not on any spectrum or special needs
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Wow wow wow! I just know she sent him to an inpatient behavioral health center because he was too strong wiled for he. How did she get the docs to agree? Did she lie and exaggerate?
Working with kids with special needs for over ten years now, in my experience I can tell something is going on within two minutes of speaking to him. It's rare a special need is "hidden" from view.
I always thought, based on Collin's couch interviews and viewing his interactions with others on the show, that that was a perfectly normal, albeit sensitive, child.
For those of you who were never blocked on Kate's Twitter, is Kate's Instagram going the way of her Twitter? I've had a couple laughs reading the most recent comments this morning. Starting to think she's given up posting on Instagram since she can't control the narrative anymore.
xxxx No Christmas pics. Saw you the other day. You seemed frantic and well you were yelling. Not sure about what. Have you ever been checked for being bipolar?
xxxx Saw a beautiful picture of Collin celebrating Christmas with his father and sister. He looks so happy and healthy. Hopefully he can reconnect with the rest of his siblings after 3 years of being away. Whatever the issues were, it is just cruel to keep them away from each other at such young ages.
xxxx I personally cannot wait for the tell-all books that are bound to be published within the next ten years. My money is on Cara's being first. You blew through the money your children's childhoods cost; however will you pay for tacky highlights, french tip acrylics, and tanning now? Kate Plus 6 doesn't really have the same ring to it, does it?
Of all the kids, Collin had the hardest time coping with fame and filming. He was the one who was always covering his eyes when paps were taking his picture. And he was the one who was said to be "overstimulated" by filming. He was always singled out for negative attention by Kate. I think a doctor did recommend that Collin not be subjected to filming, and Kate did what she always does when someone gets in the way of filming. She banished him, just like Jon, Kevin, Jodi, Beth, Bob, and all the other family and friends who were there early on. They were tossed by the wayside in her all-consuming lust for filming, and she never looked back. It must have surprised her when viewers didn't just accept Collin's disappearance. They applauded her for all the others, she must have thought they'd do the same with him. But they didn't. And she had no intention of ever letting him come back. I think of all the times she smugly said, "I'll be darned if I let them take me down for that". She was so defiant. There were no boundaries for her. And then she went too far. She probably still can't understand why anyone cares about Collin when he's just one of 8. But we do, and we always did.
Someone posted this on Kate's IG:
No Christmas pics. Saw you the other day. You seemed frantic and well you were yelling. Not sure about what. Have you ever been checked for being bipolar *********** Kate, frantic and yelling. Sounds about right.
This is so funny. What the heck is a genetic specialist in terms of dating?
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Lol what the hay?
I thought you use a genetic specialist when you're conceiving a child and you both have a recessive gene for some terrible disease and you need to be sure no embryo gets both copies of the gene.
This has to be the first year that TFW hasn't done any of her phony Christmas posts on IG (and, years ago, on Twitter). Her life is such a mess, she should just give up IG.
Kate will probably have Mady post a picture if Hannah has to go to the conpound for visitation (I assume that it wouldn’t be in Collin’s best interest to go over there). It can be another “reunion” picture. Wouldn’t it be nice if the rest of the tups had a reunion with Collin in the relaxed atmosphere that Jon and Colleen have created at their house. It would be a true Christmas miracle if the twins go to visit their brother at Jon’s house.
Collin and Hannah look so genuinely happy my heart has melted!! I wish them all well as they transition into natural healthy routines within their new lives with Jon and Colleen. The comment about Kate yelling...makes me nervous for what may be happening in Kates world for the other 6. Pray tell they know they have an out if needed!! Merry Christmas all!!
They also posted a couple other pics from Jon's IG. And, you just have to love this part - they included the video of TFW: "Kate smirks when admitting Jon doesn't know where Collin is." (Once again, F-U Khate!)
For those of you who were never blocked on Kate's Twitter, is Kate's Instagram going the way of her Twitter? I've had a couple laughs reading the most recent comments this morning. Starting to think she's given up posting on Instagram since she can't control the narrative anymore.
xxxx No Christmas pics. Saw you the other day. You seemed frantic and well you were yelling. Not sure about what. Have you ever been checked for being bipolar?
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It looks like TFW deleted that comment. Interesting that she deleted that one but not some other negative comments.
So you think it's perfectly normal to be kicked out of kindergarten? Maybe you should leave the special needs diagnoses to the actual experts, not to the attorneys who think they are experts.
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You're certainly no expert if you think a kid who had behavioral problems in kindergarten must therefore have special needs. In fact, most EXPERTS will tell you kindergarten is way too early to diagnosis many special needs. Alexis was also kicked out of kindergarten, and she's fine.
The more reasonable explanation those two struggled in kindergarten was because their mother put them on TV all the time and dragged them around the country and world doing so, was a child abuser, was divorcing their father and alienating them from him, left them to jaunt off to NYC and LA all the time, and is a narcissist. That's plenty enough to explain away even the most disturbed kindergartner. Not because of an organic underlining issue. One need not be an "expert" to have extensive experience with children with special needs, much like a teacher, principal, or school counselor is usually not a doctor, but generally with experience has a very good idea of what is going with their kids, as I do mine.
Perhaps someone else will have already commented on this by the time my post gets approved but shock of all shock, People magazine ran the photo and DIDN'T put the old quote in there by Mady!
It looks like TFW deleted that comment. Interesting that she deleted that one but not some other negative comments. **** Can the poster go back and delete their comment(s). I saw a couple people had asked him where he saw the shrew, maybe he felt harassed? I don't think that Kate pays much attention to her IG account because there's worse comments she could/should delete.
Sandylove (#51), It's nice to see that People finally cut out those paragraphs about M and C, but they still had to get in a dig at Jon in the headline:
Jon Gosselin Spends Christmas with Collin and Hannah Amid Estrangement from 6 Other Kids
Sandylove (#51), It's nice to see that People finally cut out those paragraphs about M and C, but they still had to get in a dig at Jon in the headline:
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Coyne was on final approval for headline duty today.
I am tickled that Collin looks so clear eyed and healthy. I also think that having an older "brother" and "sister" will help him tremendously. Along with Jon and Hannah and Coleen (sp) of course. A full family. Phreddie
TFW must be seething mad. Jon's lovely Christmas pic is getting picked up everywhere. Some of the articles mention how TFW has been so quiet on social media this year and how she hasn't posted any Christmas pics.
It looks like TFW deleted that comment. Interesting that she deleted that one but not some other negative comments. **** Can the poster go back and delete their comment(s). I saw a couple people had asked him where he saw the shrew, maybe he felt harassed? I don't think that Kate pays much attention to her IG account because there's worse comments she could/should delete.
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Susan1956, I'm not on Instagram, so I don't know if people can delete their own comments. I did see those other comments asking him where he saw TFW, but I also noticed that his IG account is private so I don't see how he could be harassed on IG. I wouldn't think he'd delete the comment, but who knows?
I watched that old clip of Kate posted by Daily Mail today. I had forgotten how obnoxious, arrogant and cruelly demeaning (toward the father of her children) she was in that interview. How could the court, TLC or anyone think Kate is an honorable,caring person? M.
I wonder if these pictures of C are TFW's first opportunity to actually see her son since she sent him away. Heifer didn't even bother showing up in court for the custody hearing, so her interest level in his welfare has been clearly telegraphed.
I bet this was the first Christmas in more than a decade that Mrs. Claus wasn't showered with gifts from fans and/or social media supporters. She abandoned her followers, and by now most of them have probably found other people to support who actually bother to stay connected with their fans.
I want to wish everyone a peaceful, positive,and restful holiday season! Thanks for sharing the links to Jon's family photo. I just got the January 7 2019 edition of People in the mail today, the 26th, and the Irwin children are on the cover, Robert and Bindi, who are now 15 and 20. "people exclusive" nice article, 5 full pages, lots of photos, highlights their Animal Planet series "Crikey! Its the Irwins". No mention of TFMJG or any of the family in print edition. also got the TV Guide edition covering Jan 7-20. Minimal mention of reality tv shows, couple of travel shows and HGTV bought the Brady Bunch house to film a show with the Property Brothers renovating it! check HGTV.com for digital series "Building Brady" and see all of the actors who played the kids! No mention of TFMJH, that sp sailed long ago!
Kate's gang of die-hard supporters sure seems to be dwindling in numbers. A few years ago she could give them some half-baked excuse for her behavior and they'd go to battle to protect her while she sat back and laughed, never taking responsibility for her actions. I remember a picture of her screaming at her kids at the bus stop, and all she had to say was, "That picture was taken Tuesday, not Wednesday! Good try!" and they ran with it. They never stopped to consider the way she was treating the kids, instead thinking a discrepancy in the dates discredited the whole thing. She was in total control. Now two of her children are gone for good, and looking very happy with their dad, and no claim of incorrect dates can change that. Remember Goody (I believe it was her) advising Kate to tell the kids that they should never tell Jon anything, and to tell them he's the enemy? They all joined in to help her alienate the kids from their father, just so that Kate's abuse could remain hidden. She loved every minute of it, but now she's left with a situation she can't control and no army of adoring fans to fight her battles for her. I'm sure she's just passing the time until her dating show proceeds. If she can just get herself on TV, then everything will be right again. If TLC airs that show, that shows that they are fully aware of her abuse of her kids--and abandonment of Collin--and they not only approve, they were probably complicit. They deserve any backlash they get.
I love the fact that so many sites are showing that smirking interview clip. She showed her true colors, and those colors aren't pretty. I like to think that interview may have played a role in her losing custody. She basically admitted to hiding and alienating her son from Jon. And she can't take it back.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6533515/Jon-Gosselin-says-son-ex-wife-Kate-placed-facility-does-NOT-special-needs.html ******************* Daily Mail is reporting Jon's reply to a fan's question on IG about Collin having special needs. NO special needs. Kate's fake "special needs" story is being ripped to shreds and there's nothing she can do about it. And that nasty, smirking video is there. I'm loving all the sites showing that clip--it exposes her for the vindictive witch she really is.
I think this kid was REACTING to his messed up childhood. A reaction to a laundry list of bad behavior and choices from your mother does not mean you have a diagnostic special need!! 😡
I see US Magazine is picking up on Jon's response that Collin is not special needs. I hope that is spread far and wide. The next while is going to be tough enough for him without speculation about his supposed "problem". I think most people now agree that his special need was having screwy evil mother.
Admin (#68), and I still believe that TFW's physical abuse of C was a significant component to his issues. She admitted, in her own journal, that she grabbed her son by the hair, threw him into his crib, and beat him until she was scared she might do irreparable damage.
ROL's picked up the story about Collin's lack of "special needs" as well. Bitch must be seething at this point. Almost an entire month of negative news for her. All deserved, of course. Wonder if People will "go there."
pym I see US Magazine is picking up on Jon's response that Collin is not special needs. I hope that is spread far and wide. The next while is going to be tough enough for him without speculation about his supposed "problem". I think most people now agree that his special need was having screwy evil mother.
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This may sound crazy, but in the end I actually think Hannah and Colin will be better off, even though they both had their major struggles with Kate that resulted in so many difficult times for them. Because at least they were facing their issues with Kate head on and being proactive about dealing with them. I worry more for a kid who is internalizing the abuse and narcissistic parenting, never really letting themselves feel the damage it is causing them, and never trying to fix it. Those are the kids who will be on the therapist coach at age 45 with two divorces under their belt, broken relationships abound, and a hefty case of depression. It's just so much healthier to deal with this sooner rather than later.
Admin, although my outcome was not quite as bleak as what you described in comment 73. You are not off base. (I speak for myself and 6 siblings.)
Not understanding that you aren't the flawed character and trying to appease the person with the flaws is exhausting and emotionally damaging.
They probably won't see the clear truth until they are older and have children of their own. Then -- the fallout. It takes wise counsel and/or a good spouse to help navigate the delayed maturing process.
I have always wished the best for those "celebrity" children.
I remember how Kate was riding high one time. She was the media darling. Barbara Walters made her one of the most interesting people of the year, and she cohosted on The View and had many media appearances. She got so many opportunities that she blew. Jon was a wuss, a cheater, a wimp. Remember Ed Hardy? I'm so glad the tides have turned. We "haters" knew something was wrong with that woman, and we were proven right.
Admin (#73), I agree about H and C actually having an advantage emotionally. As I've said before, I bet at least one of the 6 remaining with TFW will stay with her forever as her helper and protector. Four of those 6 are only 14, and still have 4 more years to endure under that roof. Or they could choose to live with their father, which would mean Mom deletes them from her life. Pretty heavy stuff for a teenager to deal with.
I'm wondering if TFW stopped posting because she knew it would come out that Collin did not have challenges. That he was sent away to further her agenda.
I can't imagine what life must be like for the remaining kids in TFW's household. Who would have thought, even just a a couple of years ago, that her teflon coating would finally wear off?
The Dionne Quints are a prime example of what happens, when right from birth, you are made into a side-show attraction. They've sent letters to parents of multiples to warn them about the damage that can be done.
I am afraid of what TFW is saying to the other tups. Jon says they no longer talk to him. I am horrified by that. How emotionally conflicted they must be...afraid to not to please mommy. TFW is playing a dangerous game of emotional manipulation.
I think the only 'special' need Collin had was to get away from his mother. I'm sure he and Hannah will thrive now that they are living with their compassionate father. Give children enough time and they will figure out what's really been going on in the family.
I remember a lot of sheeple got fleeced the day Kate whined about her son's special needs and explained to the public she was institutionalizing him. Because those fans, good mothers, would never do that to their sons and daughters no matter how hard it got with their special needs.
If they're even still paying any attention, I can't imagine what they must be thinking to know she was lying about that. They must hate her even more.
I always thought chances were slim that the Fake Date with Khate show was ever going to air, but I think it's safe to say now that these latest developments are the last nail in that coffin. We all know TLC's decisions have been hard to understand in the past, but they would really be insane to go forward with that show now. They don't need her to fill any gaps in programming or anything. And, why in the world would they want all the questions and bad press that would hit the fan once they tried to promote this show? More importantly, TFW should want to crawl under a rock and disappear at this point.
I am thrilled to see that Jon set the record straight about the "special needs" label. All those stories on various sites referring to Collin as "troubled". People speculating that he was violent and that he may have hurt the other kids or they might be afraid of him. And his mother never spoke up to stop these people from saying such awful things about him. She's so fast to set the record straight about any perceived slight to herself, but never stands up for the kids. What kind of mother lets people say her son is dangerous and doesn't correct them, even though she knows he's not? She let it go on because she loved being the martyr, the poor put-upon single mother of 8 who had to deal with it all by herself. Her self-interest far outweighed her concern for her child. In fact, she made sure she cashed in (with plenty of help from her enablers at TLC and People). Maybe Collin couldn't film, but by golly, she was going to find a way to make some more money off him.
I've said it before and I'll say it again--Thank God for Jon.
My guess is that the rest of the kids feel like they are powerless to do anything. When you have lived in that kind of environment for most of your life, you become desensitized and think that it is normal. Classic case of Stockholm Syndrome.
I hope that the other kids will find the strength to finally break free and realize that their father will always be there for them no matter what.
All you people saying no good mother would send away her child? That's bullshit.
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Almost ALL, ALL behavioral problems can be addressed in the home, with intensive services, which are paid for by taxpayers through the school district. I know this for a fact because I've worked with all kinds of children even children who have tried to kill, rape, or injure other children or adults.
The K&8 game show episode was filmed in February 2016. A poster noticed the date on the slate, which also revealed the kids were working on a weekend. And about a month later, C was sent away. According to TFW's People interview, C had these awful, terrible ongoing problems that were tearing his family apart, but were most especially hard on her because she was handling them ALL ALONE. And yet he was well enough to WORK just a few weeks before he was shipped off to inpatient care for YEARS?
Either C's issues were not nearly as bad as TFW claims, or they were bad and she simply ignored them for years -- choosing filming again and again over the wellbeing of her child until the situation became desperate. Either way, she is a horrible mother.
The holiday shopping season has come and gone, and it looks like TFW received zero freebies to shill on social media. The Duggar and Roloff wives have been hustling all kinds of things to their followers for months.
Poor mediocre Schmoopy. Remember how she dramatically claimed she could "never go back?" Well, heifer, check your GPS, because you're there.
All you people saying no good mother would send away her child? That's bullshit.
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Almost ALL, ALL behavioral problems can be addressed in the home, with intensive services, which are paid for by taxpayers through the school district. I know this for a fact because I've worked with all kinds of children even children who have tried to kill, rape, or injure other children or adults.
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Agree. Wrap Around services are the standard now. And for oppositional behavior, a big component is training the PARENT in response techniques. I can see TFW refusing to modify HER behavior/learn techniques but I can easily see Jon participating and learning for the sake of his son.
We also have something here called ITSP, the acronym escapes me now, but it's targeted toward behavioral problems. It's basically Wrap.
You don't institutionalize a child like this. You just don't. And yes, many if not most of these kids have siblings. I've even seen situations where if the child has been violent, they will sleep in a locked bedroom with a parent or other responsible adult while the other responsible adult sleeps with the other siblings. Wrap is here to help you find solutions like that so that you don't have to put your kid behind bars for gosh sakes.
Unless, and this is a big unless, the parent themselves is abusive or unsafe to handle the child.
I'm virtually certain now it was KATE who couldn't handle this child, not that the child could not have been parented just fine in the home with the right services.
Lurking (#90), and don't you wonder why Jon wasn't asked to participate from the get-go? Let's say the situation with C was indeed absolutely overwhelming, and doing tremendous damage to the family as a whole. Wouldn't a logical first step be to try shared custody with Jon? But no. That narcissist much preferred playing victim and martyr...eliminating her son from the household, scoring an awesome cover story with People, and carrying on with new episodes of K+7. Puppies! Parties! FUN!
FlimsyFlamsy said... 91 Susan1956 (#89), thank you -- I was merely tapping into my inner AuntieAnn! **************** You're welcome. Your comment inspired me to create a meme of Kate using parts of your comment. I've emailed it to admin asking her to pass it on to you if you would like it.
Yeah, this is what really clinched it for me. It seems to me that if she wasn't legally bound to bring him into the loop, she surely was morally bound to do so. That she didn't speaks volume about her need for control. She managed to convince ALL of those kids that their father didn't give a damn about them, and the two that have left have now discovered for themselves that it simply was not true. She is reaping the whirlwind, at last, and I hope those remaining with her are not being made miserable by her miserableness. She has NO excuses left.
LOL, I think it's pretty clear that the IG account mady.gosselin is not her real one. Still only 4 photos for the family "photographer" since the birthday. She's definitely got another place she posts.
@Sad but true if that account is fake then i have no idea why Kate would share a fake account.Maybe,since Mady is so much like Kate,could she be upset at Hannah and Collin being with Jon?That would be crazy but i still believe mady had a role in the remaining tups not seeing Jon IMO.
@Sad but true if that account is fake then i have no idea why Kate would share a fake account.
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I don't think it's fake I think it's just a "dummy" account set up by Mady or Kate to feed to the fans. It's even possible Mady told her mother this is her real account when really she's active on social media elsewhere from Kate's grasp. Kate's that stupid.
@Admin (49)Late comment but in regards to Alexis.From what i watched on the show,like Collin,she seemed fine but i remember both Hannah and Leah would shun her and call her crazy.Im not saying Hannah and Leah are right but on the couch scenes with the 3 tup girls,alexis at times seemed bored and would look around the room while mostly leah and hannah would do the talking.Maybe thats just what i see.Then again we don't know the reason why she doesn't see Jon.Personally i just hope she's ok and she won't be the tup that some people speculate that is going to have alot of relationship problems in the future.
I am so happy to hear Collin is finally home but at the same time my heart breaks thinking what hard 3 years this child must has had. What a hard life for poor Collin especially if it's true that he had no special needs and that he wasn't visited by his family at all. No way is this not going to stay with him forever. I can only hope bad times are behind him.
Although there are a lot of fake facebook accounts out there, it looks like Jon has been posting on this "verified" facebook page recently: https://m.facebook.com/therealjongosselin. Interestingly, Sylvia Lafair commented on his Christmas day post. Wasn't she the therapist who had to file a lawsuit to get paid?
Collen is friends with this Jonathan Gosselin: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=501364345&ref=content_filter
@Admin (49)Late comment but in regards to Alexis.From what i watched on the show,like Collin,she seemed fine but i remember both Hannah and Leah would shun her and call her crazy
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I agree totally. The other two girls would always leave Alexis out and call her names. I think Alexis is just more into animals and maybe a little less girly/'sophisticated' than H and L. She and Collin were often left out of activities or paired with Kate. I don't know why she would suddenly not be seeing Jon either. I always liked Alexis and her interest in things and funny quirky ways
IIRC, Alexis and Collin stopped seeing Jon at about the same time, but the other 4 kept doing weekend visitations right up until early last year (based on Jon's comments). I was never clear what that was about, and I don't expect we'll ever know, but I think it's safe to say it was something engineered by K8.
Formerly Duped Honestly,Alexis was always my favorite when i was a big fan of the show.I hope my comment doesn't sound weird but out of all of the girls she seems like the fun one.I could be wrong but i remember on one of the birthday episodes where she stated that she'd rather be doing what the boys were doing then what the girls were doing.To me,she seems like one of those tomboys who'd have alot of guy friends,which is why i hope she doesn't have relationship problemsin the future because of Kate.
Alexis loved the aldergators and wanted the lizard back pack. She told Kate a lighthouse wasn't too high. Kate was always hung on gender roles. She doesn't like to think outside the box which must've been hard on children who didn't fit in.
I always thought Alexis might be the next one 'to go' like Collin. The two were paired together for behavior and in activities and she was not always allowed to partake of the adventures at hand. l and H always were BFFs and excluded her. Glad if she's doing ok; sad she cannot see her dad.
Jamesvader1194, I have zero doubt that TFW has groomed the older girls to be her advocates. That M interview calling her father "toxic" said it all. Young teenagers like she was at the time are generally a self-centered lot, and M perhaps more than her twin. I can't imagine she was spending her time diagnosing her dad's behaviors and motives. My guess is she was parroting what her mother had said, and was likely rewarded handsomely for that support. Remember what TFW said -- you're either with her or against her. And M knows what side her bread is buttered on.
When it came down to it, though, Mady & Cara were unable to deliver the real goods. Kate was completely humiliated on live TV after the twins clammed up & refused to bash their father on command. Kate kept urging them to say “what they did in the magazine” but they couldn’t go through with it. Despite Kate’s best efforts, the kids love their father, which gives me hope for an eventual reconciliation.
I think Alexis will follow and be the next to join Jon. She seemed to have a close relationship with him, Collin and Hannah, but I'm also concerned hat Kate may have been able to convince Alexis that Jon was a deadbeat Dad and that it would also be toxic for her if she would continue her visits with him. As she gets older and more mature in her thinking she may realize that her mother is the one alienating them from their father.
On another topic have a very Happy New Year to everyone on this blog and thanks to you Admin for all of the good work you and your colleagues have done throughout the year. My year is starting out catastrophic. I was bringing out my recycle bin and slipped on the ice. I had to have an urgent surgery because my wrist was shattered. I am now the proud owner of a metal plate, screws, a cast and sling. A great way to welcome in the New Year! Be careful everyone here and remember some minor things can wait.
Poor Alexis--from the recaps, she was always being excluded by the other girls. Nobody wanted to share a room with her, nobody wanted to sit with her. Hannah and Mady, IIRC, didn't get along because Mady wanted to be the leader of all the kids, but H was the leader among the tups. With Hannah gone, Mady can now be in charge. That would help explain the estrangement from Jon--if Mady is on board with Kate, she can help her alienate the younger kids from their dad.
The estrangement also coincided with Hannah leaving home to move in with Jon. I think Kate realized she couldn't get away with another child missing--especially since this one was leaving by choice, so she pulled out all the stops to alienate Jon for good and to keep Hannah from leaving. She made sure the kids knew that Jon was putting a stop to filming and they could lose everything. The situation seemed to start right about the time Kate..errr, I means Kate's "source"...told People that she was broke (again). She was setting up the narrative. The kids were reportedly helping put pressure on Hannah by shunning her. Hannah herself said, when asked whether her siblings still talked to her, that "the boys do". Thank goodness, it now seems that all the other tups talk to her. But--this estrangement is all about Kate and punishing Jon for taking one of the kids from her so she couldn't pull off filming K+8. Those kids equal money for her, and he took away not only her favorite child, he took away the money she could have made from continuing the show.
I'm still wondering how, if she was broke and on the verge of losing the kids a year ago, she's still in the house, the kids are still in private school, and they seem to be just fine. How does that work? I always thought being broke meant you were out of money. It must mean something different to Kate.
Layla (#112), didn't TFW once refer to A as either a "disrupter" or a "disturber?" And claim she was sleeping in the basement because she was a "bat," when we suspected it was actually Jon sleeping in the basement because they were secretly already separated?
I will pray for your speedy recovery. I had a plate and 18 screws put in my ankle a 5 years ago. Do your best to keep warm when it’s cold outside. The metal will get cold and make your wrist hurt.
Happy New Year everybody. We have one hour here until 2019 and I wish all of you a new year filled with joy, strength and blessings. For the Gosselin children, they have so many loving supporters on this blog. It also seems to be a place where everyone can just offload about any of the crap that life throws out, and a safe place to fall. Pretty special. Happy New Year everyone. Kind of crazy hearing you all talk about ice and snow. It's 92 degrees here. Sorry to hear about your accident Bluebird. Wishing you a speedy recovery.
NJ Gal congratulations on your retirement. We work hard all of our lives and deserve to lay low and enjoy the time to do what we want and when we want. I hope you have many fun projects to fulfill.
Thanks everyone for your kind thoughts, and thank God for medication, I count the hours before I can take the next dose, it hurts that bad.
Bluebird, so sorry to hear about your wrist injury. I hope the pain gets better every day. Hang in there.
NJGal, wishing you a very happy retirement.
Admin and everyone, may 2019 be filled with health, peace, and joy!
I'm wishing the same for Jon, Colleen, Hannah and Collin. The other kids too, of course. Hopefully, they will reconnect with Jon and their siblings in this coming year.
Wasn't Kate in Australia for New Year's? She was queen of the world then. And she had a New Year's party at home, and Milo was tweeting about Van the man or was it grow a boyfriend? I guess Milo has disappeared.
Happy (almost) New Year, everyone! I will be staying home tonight watching TV with my honey. Not the most exciting way to celebrate, but my doctor just doubled my dose of Imuran (an immunosuppressant med to treat my lupus), and it is kicking my butt! I feel like I have the flu. My liver, kidneys, and bone marrow don't want to work right, so hopefully this will get them back to a functional state. It took me about a month to adjust to Imuran when I first started taking it, so I'm guessing it'll be the same for this dosage increase. Can't wait to feel normal again!
DH brought home yummy snacks and we're going to snuggle up and watch Bird Box on Netflix, then watch the ball drop. The boys all have parties to go to, but they'll all be home for brunch tomorrow. That's my happy place, gathered in my kitchen with all my noisy, happy, fun-loving guys. I'm a lucky gal.
WE've just had 14 close friends over tonight so I'm in a happy place right now. We count our blessings we have friends that mean so much to us...can't imagine TFW & her kids sitting in their empty "mansion" .
@Interesting tweets Im not shocked that Barb of all people is deciding to leave.There have been hints by her that she wasn't happy with what Kate has done to Collin.Now that Kate is MIA and no where to be seen,she pretty much is gone.Im starting to wonder if Milo realized that Collin being with Jon opened her eyes cause even she's been gone for months.I just hope it wasn't anything bad.
I am happy to see Collin has a dog. I believe that pets can help people heal. My dog Winston has given me unconditional love when I need it. He comforts me when I am sick. And he is always happy to see me.
Happy New Year everyone! NJGal, happy retirement! Layla and Bluebird, hope you both feel better! I'm busy with work, and grandbabies, but will still stop by once in a while to say hi. TFMJG is now, and ever will be, boring.
Jon's New Year pictures are being picked up everywhere--even People covered them. And there's no more cut-and-paste of Mady's comments from 2016. I guess they realize that it's now 2019 and it's about time to let that go. I'm cheering Jon on--I think he should keep the happy pictures coming. After all the harm Kate has done to Collin, all the labeling she did, I think it's good for people to see just what a happy, normal kid he really is. That's the best way to make people realize that the real problem was Kate (and TLC, of course), not Collin. Now if the news sites would just stop saying C is "troubled"! Nothing points to him being troubled except Kate's words, and I don't believe anything she says.
Thanks- Collin looks very happy and healthy. i;'m sure celebrating the holidays with his family will be a good way to re-enter the real word...I'm sure he will get his braces at last too. He is a good-looking boy. They look like a happy crew!
Hope everyone enjoyed their Christmas and New Years.
I am glad that Collin seems so happy. I also have to say I'm impressed that nobody as asked Kate to "set the record straight," again. Not sure she could this time even if someone asked.
I do wonder what she's going to do now. Her statement of not being able to go back, looks like it's arrived. I have to say I'm impressed she's not posted anything in sometime. I imagine it be pretty hard to do so without being questioned.
I hope the rest of the kids now will get the grow up normally without TLC filming them or Kate milking them. So you have 8 kids...and? What now?
Random thought, as it's January: what a difference four years makes. This time four years ago, TFW was once again riding high, (in her attention-loving, narcissistic mind). Her season on Celebrity Apprentice was about to premiere, (on January 4, 2015), and after around three years since its cancellation in 2011, another season of Khate Plus 8 was also about to start.
Four years later, her life is an absolute mess. She has no means of income and hasn't even tried to do anything on her own without the kids in all these years. Does she really have enough money, (that she got off the kids' backs), invested to carry her through the rest of life?
More importantly, two kids no longer live with her, and the various siblings have strained relationships with each other and with their father. Two of the kids will be leaving for college in the fall. She'll soon be left with four kids, and still refusing to get a job. More kids might decide to abandon ship and go to Jon's home.
In the meantime, Jon has been in a stable relationship for several years. They're living in a nice new home and seem to have a lovely blended family with H and C living there. Jon and Colleen appear to be a solid couple who bring the best out in each other and work together as a team for their family.
Almost ten years after they split up, Jon has a normal, happy life with his partner, his kids, his extended family, and many friends while TFW has a very lonely, isolated, boring, pathetic existence with no job, no family, fractured relationships amongst the kids, few real friends if any, seemingly no interests or activities, and no romantic partner. She is so far below "mediocre", it's sad. It's 2019 and her future looks bleak, and she has no one to blame but herself.
ncgirl, Paige's Twitter bio says she's 24. TFW's Twitter bio says she opened her Twitter account in March of 2011, and I think Paige came on the scene around that time. So, she must have been around 16, which is about what I remember from back then.
"So, she must have been around 16, which is about what I remember from back then."
Yeah, she was around that age. I remember thinking how odd at that age to be obsessed with a stay at home mom reality star. I believe they met on some talk show.
Then there was another young fan, Emily, I believe. She was at some event with the Gosselins and held one of the children in her lap. I just know at that age, I would not have cared about a middle aged reality star mom even she was nice unlike Kate.
So Happy for Jon, Hannah and Collin. Happiness just radiates from that photo. Such a beautiful blended family Jon has created. Looks as if Collin might have his braces finally too. That photo might represent the most genuinely joyful moment those kids have had since birth.
Happy New Year...a little late! NJGal51, congratulations on your retirement -- quite a milestone!
How lovely to see these smiling pictures of C. Surely there will be a period of adjustment for everyone in his new household. But I bet that during the transition, HIS needs will come first. At Ms. Gosselin's Home For Exploited Children, he seemed to rank dead last -- after his narcissistic mother, her bodyguard, 5 girls, 2 other icky dirty boys, a bird, some chickens, and a neglected dog.
I’m just remembering four years ago and even further back, there were headlines all over painting Jon as the “deadbeat”, “womanizing, “looser”. Now we are seeing everything turning in his favor. More and more mainstream media outlets are painting Jon as a loving and a stable person. Even People magazine can no longer deny this fact. This is Kate’s worse nightmare. More fans are beginning to realize that Jon isn’t so bad after all. Some fans are even beginning to comprehend what the “haters” have been saying all along about Kate. Kate has always blamed Jon, the haters (truthers) and everyone else for her shortcomings . It’s becoming more apparent to the fans that she doesn’t care about them after all. More and more are walking away. She’s the cause of this. Karma has finally arrived
Some fans are even beginning to comprehend what the “haters” have been saying all along about Kate.
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...Which is not surprising given their intellect. What was clear as a bell to us ten or eleven years ago is now just dawning upon their little wooley noggins. But what the hey, better late than never. It's just so sad that Jon had to go through the nine circles of hell to get custody of two of his kids. His perseverance is admirable.
.Which is not surprising given their intellect. What was clear as a bell to us ten or eleven years ago is now just dawning upon their little wooley noggins. But what the hey, better late than never. It's just so sad that Jon had to go through the nine circles of hell to get custody of two of his kids. His perseverance is admirable
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I do kind of find it sad to watch them realize now, oh gee I guess Kate doesn't care about me.
Like, we told you that ten years ago. We tried to spare you and warn you.
Like, we told you that ten years ago. We tried to spare you and warn you.
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Castaways, all of them lol. Well now they know how it feels to get dumped into Kate's cull bin. And maybe they feel just a teeny bit of the hurt that Collin must have felt when he was shuttled off to the land of misfit boys.
"Like, we told you that ten years ago. We tried to spare you and warn you."
I watched Jon and Kate plus 8 and as the episodes went on, it was obvious to me and people here something was off with Kate. But the media and TLC twisted the story around and fooled a lot of people. It's sad and interesting how powerful companies can manipulate things for the big bucks.
ncgirl (#156), that orchestrated and well-financed manipulation makes Jon's victory even more remarkable. It really was David vs. Goliath. TFW's botoxed jaw must still be on the floor.
Only 5 months until M and C graduate high school. The way things look now, I can't imagine TLC making an episode about it. And unlike Mother's Day or Christmas, this event can't be faked on a different date to accommodate TLC's schedule.
I very much doubt that K8 is without cards yet to play in this purported custody battle. The amount she sued for in spring 2018 for back child support is still in play (according to what has been disclosed). And I would not be at all surprised if some "up-close and personal" interview comes forth soon from People (or some other mouthpiece for TLC).
It IS interesting that her TLC FB page has not been updated since 11/21, when it featured some other "mom" doing something ridiculous for Thanksgiving. Xmas was entirely avoided, and the page has only been half-assedly maintained for the whole of 2018, with very little K8-related anything posted there. This makes me think they truly are done with her, barring some Baba Wawa-type interview in prime-time (that is, NOT in one of the tab shows), in which she declares she's transgender and in love with Jazz; or decides life would be more cost-effective if she were to move in with Honey Boo-boo and Mama June. I actually don't put either of these options past her, I don't think we've yet plumbed the depths she will go to maintain her notoriety.
Whatever she may be planning should probably happen sooner than later, though, lest the public lose interest. I confess to being almost there myself. But I do enjoy seeing the genuinely-happy family pictures, like the ones that have been posted on Jon's IG for the last few months. They were a long time coming, but it's heartening to see that the tide has finally turned in Jon's favor, to whatever extent.
Am I interested in random dogs in uninteresting poses/ settings? Not so much. If she doesn't find something new, her IG is toast. (Or it would be, if she weren't buying 1K followers a week.)
I think Kate is still trying to figure out how to spin the Collin situation to fit her agenda. She has always played the victim, always gone for sympathy. Everyone does her wrong, she does it all herself, she's all alone, she's perpetually broke, boo-hoo. But now she's not sure if she can get away with it. She can't shut Jon up, or Hannah, or Collin. If she speaks out, she may be opening floodgates of information--maybe just from Jon, maybe H and C too--that will just make her look worse. Jon has custody, so that means he should have access to C's medical records. Who knows what's in there? He could release information she would rather people not know. There's a reason she's keeping quiet, and I think it's out of self-preservation.
I'm not surprised that Barb is finally seeing the light. She was always one of the more reasonable fans. It wouldn't be hard to look back and realize that Kate only communicated with them when she wanted something from them--wanted them to watch her show, sign up for her cruise, fight her battles for her, send her things. It's obvious that the Kate they all supported or so long is a fraud. The smarter ones have her figured out by now.
Sad but true (#160), I agree we can't be too confident about TFW being gone for good. But, yes, the clock is ticking.
The landscape of reality TV has changed dramatically since Schmoopy's heyday. She is less and less likely to get that 2nd chance -- or are we up to 3rd, 4th or 5th? -- to "hit it out of the park." We are overrun with multiples, Kardashians, housewives, and teen moms. Not to mention cooking and house renovation shows. People like Joanna Gaines and Ree Drummond have become cash cows, turning their shows into veritable empires. It takes determination, hard work and smarts. TFW lacks all 3.
I also believe Kate is plotting her return to "fame" and money. I would be shocked to hear she is back to work as a nurse or any other "mediocre" job. No...she has proven she is obsessed with filming and has shown she will do ANYTHING to keep that gravy train going. Does anyone really think she will "go gentle into that good night"? M.
@sad but true I serious thought that kate would plan to do a growing up gosselin spinoff show with the remaining kids.Just like with the duggars.Kate could use the excuse that both Hannah and Collin didn't want to do the show anymore and claim that she's respecting their privacy,even though we'd know thats not true.I must say her silence is still shocking,now even a dog picture.Not to sound like a stalker but i wonder what she's up to.
Oh no, Kate has no intention of ever "going back". If things have slowed down--or stopped--on the filming front, then she is busy plotting a way to get back on TV. It may be harder than she realizes, though. Nobody seems very interested in interviewing her these days, and when is the last time she was on a magazine cover? Even the corner of People? It's been awhile. Last time the show stopped she was constantly on talks shows, morning shows, being interviewed and photographed. Not now. If she never appears on TV again, I don't think anyone will really notice--or miss her. She sees this as a temporary situation and will hound TLC until her last breath to get them to film her (she knows by now that nobody else is even remotely interested). When she's broke and bankrupt, with the kids' college money gone (heaven forbid), she'll still be holding out for something on TV. She will destroy everything and even then she will not back down. There will be no pretty ending, mark my words.
I just read an article about the iconic--and inimitable--Lee Radziwill, and this comment stood out: " I think everyone has regrets, and people who say they haven’t are either liars . . . or narcissists."
Lee nailed it! Kate claims she lives without regrets, but lacks the self-awareness to understand what that says about her.
I agree we haven't heard the last of Kate. She hated Jon before all this custody happened with Hannah and Collin. Right now she must want to hurt him to his core. She just hasn't worked out exactly how to yet or is scheming behind the scenes on how to get revenge with whatever resources she has. She's cunning and I don't believe she'll give up. I really hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am.
Kate abandoned her Instagram in November. Reason being? She probably received her final pink slip from TLC. Her social media served one purpose only, and that was to maintain interest with the public. If she was finally shown the door, then goodbye Instagram! On another note, I just can’t comprehend that she didn’t SHOW UP in court for one of her kid’s custody issue. Did Jon gain custody from Kate or the State of PA?
There’s no way Kate lost custody of Collin because she didn’t show up for Kate. Kate didn’t show up BECAUSE she knew she was losing custody and didn’t want to be there to see Jon “win.”
Kate didn’t want Collin back but she didn’t want Jon to get him. I’m sure her lawyer told her that there’s no way the court is going to rule for Collin to stay in the facility when he has a loving dad who wants him to live with him in a real home.
And Kate wasn’t going to pay her lawyer to show up in court when there’s nothing in it for her.
Could it be true? Would that explain things?
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Old poster, you have asked the right question at last! I never even thought about the state having custody! That would explain A LOT! Could it be that the state took him away from her? OR----- did she relinquish her rights to the state? Oh my!
Old poster, you have asked the right question at last! I never even thought about the state having custody! That would explain A LOT! Could it be that the state took him away from her? OR----- did she relinquish her rights to the state? Oh my!
ADMIN, PLEASE WEIGH IN ON THIS!
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I've been saying for over a year that the most logical explanation for what is going on here is CPS took custody AWAY from Kate. Yes, I do think CPS is involved and calling the shots with a judge's approval.
I've been saying for over a year that the most logical explanation for what is going on here is CPS took custody AWAY from Kate. Yes, I do think CPS is involved and calling the shots with a judge's approval. _____
If this is true . . . man, the balls on her! I mean, to go on the cover of People and then make the rounds of TV tabs, claiming SHE made the choice to send Collin away---the depth of deceit is just mind-boggling. I hope TLC has cut all ties with her, I think she is truly out of her mind.
Maybe that is another reason Kate did not want to go to court. She was afraid it would come out that Collin was taken away from her. Maybe his long term treatment was from the damages she did to him not Collin having other challenges. The ones that Jon shot totally down.
For all her bluster at the end of the day Kate’s a coward. If she knows she’s losing she’s too much of a coward to go in there and take her medicine. Grow up. Except she never will.
She gained fame through her reality show. It sounds like she is now facing the "real" reality that she lost custody to the State and Jon has regained custody. It's no wonder she has gone to ground; "real" reality can crush you when you having been living a lie.
I don' t see how the state could take Collin away and leave the other children in the same situation. Maybe Collin was Kate's main whipping boy, but the others did not escape totally. Remember Mady being 'happied up?' Or Leah being spanked under her dress? The journal outlining various spankings and confinements to cribs? I don't see how things could be hidden and just Collin be taken away. JMO.
Collin is in a red and white "Where's Waldo" striped shirt, hat and glasses in the one picture on Jonathan's Facebook page. I do wonder if that was a cut at the "Where's Collin " question? A good one if that is so.
From what we know, there was an episode of Kate's Fake Date filmed at an escape room in NYC. 5 teenage girls just died when they were trapped in an escape room and unable to get out during a fire. TLC might not want to air that episode any time soon. It would be awfully insensitive, especially since the safety of escape rooms is in question. One more good reason to shelve the whole dating show idea.
I think Jon was showing pics of his boys (since the post was about Rules to Teach your Sons) and some of the girls just happen to be in them, not that he was specifically not including the other girls or that he doesn't have pics with them ....
Formerly--go to the post he put up yesterday "Rules to Teach Your Son", and the pictures are attached. Just click on the pictures and you can see all of them.
Oh, come ON. The safety of escape rooms everywhere is not being questioned because of a tragedy in Poland. Children have been killed on roller coasters. Should those be banned from television
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Actually that's not true, the safety of escape rooms IS being questioned around the world, and it's come to light that not all escape rooms have a quick and easy escape in an emergency. Poland is shutting down 13 other escape rooms that could be dangerous in a fire. There have been numerous interviews with people in the escape room industry in the US about what safeguards we have here. Here's just one story of hundreds about it.
I went to one in Los Angeles a few years ago, and there WAS an unlocked exit door in each room you were encouraged to use in an emergency, whether fire or even panic. However, it would end your game. That is safe. You were also permitted to push a "help" button to call an attendant to come in for hints or questions, this would not end your game. Apparently, not all escape rooms have such a safeguard, and five people died for it.
That being said, I don't see that as a reason not to air an escape room episode. There's even an escape room movie coming out. I don't think it's "too soon" since most escape rooms are safe. I'm not big on in any situation not showing or airing things because it's "too soon" because I find such a line arbitrary, but reasonable minds can differ, so the scolding really isn't necessary.
So when you went on about Kate dumping him in an institution you were lying, because you believe he was taken away by CPS?
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Nice try with your "gotch-ya", but no. Both could be correct. Do you understand how CPS works? It's not like they take your child and that's it. You are given every opportunity to get your child back from his placement, whether that's an institution or a placement like foster care. Either way, if you do what they ask you to do and make progress, you get them back. Reunification is the rule in every state. Also, some parents dump their kids willingly on CPS, some people use CPS as a vehicle to institutionalize their kids so they don't have to pay. Voluntary dumpings on CPS happen on a weekly basis if not daily.
So either scenario I believe it's fair to say she dumped him, whether it was active or passive, this kid was dumped. The fact that she doesn't show for her court date is proof she dumped him. All the other sheeple woke up, when will you?
Hmm,i wonder if Hannah or Collin got in touch with their two brothers and maybe Aaden and Joel wanted to go see Collin,i thought it was reported that Jon doesn't see the 4 other tups?Regardless im glad that it seems the two boys are there.I hope Leah was there as well.I still feel kinda sad how alexis doesn't go.
The pictures on Jon's FB of Collin are wonderful. He looks healthy and relaxed. I think the photos of the other boys might be older ones, though, not within the last year or so.
I could be wrong, but I think the pictures with Joel and Aaden from Jon's Facebook post may have been from an earlier time. They look a little younger, especially the one with Hannah in it. Plus J&A still have braces, no? Regardless, it shows that the boys enjoy being with their Dad.
Aww, isn't it cute that the poor sheeple have nowhere to go with their tantrums than our little "cesspool of hate" here? What happened to their own blogs, where they can gather and defend Kate and trash us for ever doubting her? Are there any left? I guess not since they have nowhere else to go. They're having a hard time finding an outlet for their rage now that their queen is finally being unmasked. The world is now seeing the monster she really is. We knew all along.
Well, Kate lovers, since you just can't stay away, why not pull up a chair and relax with us? Pour yourselves a drink, put your feet up. I made a cake this morning. The Pioneer Woman's "Best Chocolate Sheet Cake. Ever." recipe, and I have to tell you, it really is the best. Ever. Remember--chocolate makes you happy (all the endorphins and serotonin). You'll be feeling better in no time. Anyone hungry?
I’m almost certain that the pics of Aiden and Joel are older pics, maybe a year or 2 older.They look much younger compared to the “going back to school” photo Kate posted and they are wearing summer clothing. Hannah also looks younger in the very last pic. The first seven pics seem to be the most recent
I hope the pics including Joel and Aaden aren't old ones... is there any way to verify the date they were taken? I too am not Facebook savvy, Formerly Duped!
I'm afraid I am agreeing with the others that the photos with Joel and Aiden appear a little older. It's definitely before Joel got his braces as you can see by the condition of his teeth in these photos.
When Kate is interviewed about Collin she is very careful to NOT say she made the decision.. " it wasnt even a choice...it was on the advise of doctors " and I forget the rest but if she solely made the decision she would take credit. The advise from doctors may have been that Collin needed to stop filming or may live elsewhere...and well..Kate has been pretty clear that if it isnt with her, it certainly isnt with Jon....
AuntieAnn (#195), I think that dad rule needs to be tweaked just a bit: "Ask your mom to play. But don't get your feelings hurt if she doesn't recognize you."
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It means that Kate is a vile person and nobody wants to be with her, of course!
Merry Christmas to all who celebrate. And Admin...hope Gordon enjoys his first Christmas.
Kate...You suck!!
What capecodmama said. :) Hope everyone has a very merry! Here's to a K8-free 2019!
From that Futon critic article== "experience dating for the first time in more than 18 years! " What the heck? Didn't she "date" that Jeff for several months before he got smart and dumped her for a younger blonde?
Merry Christmas to all! Here’s hoping that Jon, Colleen, her children, Hannah an Collin have a wonderful day!
Merry Christmas and Happy Day to all. Let's hope 2019 is a better year for all.
Merry Christmas everyone!
From Dmasy
Wishing everyone a very Merry Christmas day.
Merry Christmas to all from Gordon, who is celebrating one month in the USA and dozens of milestones since he was such a scared and shut down little boy. What a blessing this year!
From that Futon critic article== "experience dating for the first time in more than 18 years! " What the heck? Didn't she "date" that Jeff for several months before he got smart and dumped her for a younger blonde?
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They did an entire episode about her going on a date in NYC with a headshot. That's not "dating"? Headshot or not I think it counts.
Yeah. She was counting on Mr Millionaire to carry on her “pretend i have a boyfriend and I’m not really boinking the body guard” mom of 8 tv show til he figured it out in the nick of time that he was only a “boyfriend for ratings”. Sorry Kate. The rich, SMART one got away
Merry Christmas to all who celebrate! As always, many thanks to Admin for this wonderful meeting place.
I hope Jon, H and C have a joyful Christmas. There's a lot of work ahead for all of them, but may this be the first of any happy holidays together.
Merry Christmas everyone. Winston puppy and I are enjoying a short vacation at the coast of Oregon. Winston loves being able to run off least at the beach.
Andrea
Happy Holidays! Makes me happy to know that this year, Collin is back home and surrounded by family and friends.
Thanks to Admin and the staff for keeping this site up all these years.
Jon posted a lovely picture of smiling kids (his and hers) and a beautifully decorated tree. Looks like everyone enjoyed themselves today. And Collin is looking great. :)
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🎄Merry Christmas everyone! 🎅🏻 Admin, please give that cutie pie Gordon a big hug and kiss from me.
I just checked Jon's Instagram and saw that he did a Christmas post just within the last hour. Omg, does this picture make me so happy! What a beautiful family! Collin looks healthy, happy, and so handsome!!
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What a beautiful picture of Jon, Colleen, and all the kids! Collin looks so clear-eyed and happy. What a handsome young man he is turning out to be! They really look like a family--a happy, loving, stable and functional family unit, which is exactly what Collin and Hannah need and deserve. Well done, Jon.
Collin looks wonderful! He looks like a normal, healthy teenage boy
Oh Jon just made me very happy....lovely Christmas picture with Hannah and COLIN! Merry Christmas to all and thank you admin....for this caring, intelligent forum.
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Jon's Christmas photo is heartwarming. I am so glad that Jon is making a home of two of his children. I also think that Colleen must be a very special woman.
Merry Christmas to their family.
Aw, look at those SMILES! Not a one looks like a forced pose. Just happiness overflowing from everyone. Colleen's kids have her smile as well.
All those kids look like siblings rather than hers and mine. What a beautiful family. Colin looks so happy as does all of them.
The tree is beautiful also and even the bottom is completely decorated.
Oh, how I wish our dear friend GollyGee could see that picture!
C's struggles truly hurt her heart.
She'd be so delighted to know how things have turned out.
Colleen (Colleen.conrad122) has a great post up on IG with multiple pictures. All the pictures are great but the picture of Jon and Collin is a must see. They both look so happy.
Merry Christmas and a happy new year to everyone.Im glad Collin was able to celebrate Christmas with his dad.Lets hope 2019 will be the year that Jon gets to spend Christmas with more of his kids.
"From psychics to genetic specialists to royalty matchmakers, Kate is willing to try anything to get the help she needs to find her perfect man."
This is so funny. What the heck is a genetic specialist in terms of dating? And we always knew Kate thought she was royalty. Was she gonna do a crossover show with the TLC psychic?
Good to see the picture from Jon. So genuine. It's a breath of fresh air after Kate's posts of cinnamon buns, baking a million cookies, and sad tree pictures. Happy Holidays to everyone.
I truly wish & hope all of the online publications pick up Jon's Christmas family photo & post it. To see how happy & healthy his two children look in HIS care, especially Collin. He looks like a different boy. Suck it Kate.
NJGal51 (#25):
Wish I could have seen the pic you described in Colleen's IG. If the smiles on Jon's IG is any indication, it must be even better than advertised.
Sandylove (#28), Radar just posted the picture -- with a shot of TFW's scary, snarling puss inserted in the corner. Her silence is deafening.
What a lovely family Christmas photos. Collin looks smart in stylish clothes, a nice haircut and big smile, slim again. His family all look so happy too. I do hope this is permanent!
@shortgustie82- I think he’s on the spectrum and being home with Kate didn’t work well with him, too much going on, too much stimulation around, etc..
Jongosselin@ shortgustie82- he is not on any spectrum or special needs
First off, I hate it when people make assumptions like this. But Jon basically confirmed that C is not autistic,on the spectrum, and does not have a “fairly fluid diagnosis” that Kate made it out to be. His “problems” are more than likely caused by his evil mother and the ways she’s treated him since birth.
It’s so nice to see Collin with family again. I hope he has an easy transition into public school.
Andrea
Gigi Be said... 32
@shortgustie82- I think he’s on the spectrum and being home with Kate didn’t work well with him, too much going on, too much stimulation around, etc..
Jongosselin@ shortgustie82- he is not on any spectrum or special needs
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Wow wow wow! I just know she sent him to an inpatient behavioral health center because he was too strong wiled for he. How did she get the docs to agree? Did she lie and exaggerate?
Working with kids with special needs for over ten years now, in my experience I can tell something is going on within two minutes of speaking to him. It's rare a special need is "hidden" from view.
I always thought, based on Collin's couch interviews and viewing his interactions with others on the show, that that was a perfectly normal, albeit sensitive, child.
For those of you who were never blocked on Kate's Twitter, is Kate's Instagram going the way of her Twitter? I've had a couple laughs reading the most recent comments this morning. Starting to think she's given up posting on Instagram since she can't control the narrative anymore.
xxxx No Christmas pics. Saw you the other day. You seemed frantic and well you were yelling. Not sure about what. Have you ever been checked for being bipolar?
xxxx Saw a beautiful picture of Collin celebrating Christmas with his father and sister. He looks so happy and healthy. Hopefully he can reconnect with the rest of his siblings after 3 years of being away. Whatever the issues were, it is just cruel to keep them away from each other at such young ages.
xxxx I personally cannot wait for the tell-all books that are bound to be published within the next ten years. My money is on Cara's being first. You blew through the money your children's childhoods cost; however will you pay for tacky highlights, french tip acrylics, and tanning now? Kate Plus 6 doesn't really have the same ring to it, does it?
Of all the kids, Collin had the hardest time coping with fame and filming. He was the one who was always covering his eyes when paps were taking his picture. And he was the one who was said to be "overstimulated" by filming. He was always singled out for negative attention by Kate. I think a doctor did recommend that Collin not be subjected to filming, and Kate did what she always does when someone gets in the way of filming. She banished him, just like Jon, Kevin, Jodi, Beth, Bob, and all the other family and friends who were there early on. They were tossed by the wayside in her all-consuming lust for filming, and she never looked back. It must have surprised her when viewers didn't just accept Collin's disappearance. They applauded her for all the others, she must have thought they'd do the same with him. But they didn't. And she had no intention of ever letting him come back. I think of all the times she smugly said, "I'll be darned if I let them take me down for that". She was so defiant. There were no boundaries for her. And then she went too far. She probably still can't understand why anyone cares about Collin when he's just one of 8. But we do, and we always did.
Someone posted this on Kate's IG:
No Christmas pics. Saw you the other day. You seemed frantic and well you were yelling. Not sure about what. Have you ever been checked for being bipolar
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Kate, frantic and yelling. Sounds about right.
Damn it. I made a mistake in my last post. The son's IG is still public. It's the daughter's IG that's private.
* Admin, please delete, or don't even post,my previous comment, and maybe this one too. I don't want to see her son start getting IG stalkers. Thanks.
Susan1956 said... 36
You forgot to include the best comment on her Instagram: “Hey kate Gosselin your an asshole”
This is so funny. What the heck is a genetic specialist in terms of dating?
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Lol what the hay?
I thought you use a genetic specialist when you're conceiving a child and you both have a recessive gene for some terrible disease and you need to be sure no embryo gets both copies of the gene.
Just for dating??
Sounds vaguely Nazi in that context.
🎄Merry Christmas everyone! 🎅🏻 Admin, please give that cutie pie Gordon a big hug and kiss from me.
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Consider it done! What a wonderful Christmas with Gordon in our lives this year.
Admin, Gordon is such a lucky baby! What a great life you're giving him. His genetic results are interesting. I'm so surprised he isn't part lab.
This has to be the first year that TFW hasn't done any of her phony Christmas posts on IG (and, years ago, on Twitter). Her life is such a mess, she should just give up IG.
Kate will probably have Mady post a picture if Hannah has to go to the conpound for visitation (I assume that it wouldn’t be in Collin’s best interest to go over there). It can be another “reunion” picture. Wouldn’t it be nice if the rest of the tups had a reunion with Collin in the relaxed atmosphere that Jon and Colleen have created at their house. It would be a true Christmas miracle if the twins go to visit their brother at Jon’s house.
Collin and Hannah look so genuinely happy my heart has melted!!
I wish them all well as they transition into natural healthy routines within their new lives with Jon and Colleen.
The comment about Kate yelling...makes me nervous for what may be happening in Kates world for the other 6. Pray tell they know they have an out if needed!!
Merry Christmas all!!
The Daily Mail posted an article with Jon's Christmas pic:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6530583/Jon-Colleen-Plus-Four-Jon-Gosselin-pictured-girlfriend-kids.html
They also posted a couple other pics from Jon's IG. And, you just have to love this part - they included the video of TFW: "Kate smirks when admitting Jon doesn't know where Collin is." (Once again, F-U Khate!)
Sorry, I messed up that link. Here it is:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6530583/Jon-Colleen-Plus-Four-Jon-Gosselin-pictured-girlfriend-kids.html
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For those of you who were never blocked on Kate's Twitter, is Kate's Instagram going the way of her Twitter? I've had a couple laughs reading the most recent comments this morning. Starting to think she's given up posting on Instagram since she can't control the narrative anymore.
xxxx No Christmas pics. Saw you the other day. You seemed frantic and well you were yelling. Not sure about what. Have you ever been checked for being bipolar?
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It looks like TFW deleted that comment. Interesting that she deleted that one but not some other negative comments.
So you think it's perfectly normal to be kicked out of kindergarten? Maybe you should leave the special needs diagnoses to the actual experts, not to the attorneys who think they are experts.
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You're certainly no expert if you think a kid who had behavioral problems in kindergarten must therefore have special needs. In fact, most EXPERTS will tell you kindergarten is way too early to diagnosis many special needs. Alexis was also kicked out of kindergarten, and she's fine.
The more reasonable explanation those two struggled in kindergarten was because their mother put them on TV all the time and dragged them around the country and world doing so, was a child abuser, was divorcing their father and alienating them from him, left them to jaunt off to NYC and LA all the time, and is a narcissist. That's plenty enough to explain away even the most disturbed kindergartner. Not because of an organic underlining issue. One need not be an "expert" to have extensive experience with children with special needs, much like a teacher, principal, or school counselor is usually not a doctor, but generally with experience has a very good idea of what is going with their kids, as I do mine.
Admin, Gordon is such a lucky baby! What a great life you're giving him. His genetic results are interesting. I'm so surprised he isn't part lab.
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What a shock his DNA was, though I've really been enjoying reading up on the SIX different breeds.
Perhaps someone else will have already commented on this by the time my post gets approved but shock of all shock, People magazine ran the photo and DIDN'T put the old quote in there by Mady!
Colin looks wonderful but all four of those kids are gorgeous! Great photo!
Former Lurker said... 48
It looks like TFW deleted that comment. Interesting that she deleted that one but not some other negative comments.
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Can the poster go back and delete their comment(s). I saw a couple people had asked him where he saw the shrew, maybe he felt harassed? I don't think that Kate pays much attention to her IG account because there's worse comments she could/should delete.
Sandylove (#51), It's nice to see that People finally cut out those paragraphs about M and C, but they still had to get in a dig at Jon in the headline:
Jon Gosselin Spends Christmas with Collin and Hannah Amid Estrangement from 6 Other Kids
https://people.com/tv/jon-gosselin-christmas-kids-girlfriend/
Sandylove (#51), It's nice to see that People finally cut out those paragraphs about M and C, but they still had to get in a dig at Jon in the headline:
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Coyne was on final approval for headline duty today.
I am tickled that Collin looks so clear eyed and healthy. I also think that having an older "brother" and "sister" will help him tremendously. Along with Jon and Hannah and Coleen (sp) of course. A full family.
Phreddie
TFW must be seething mad. Jon's lovely Christmas pic is getting picked up everywhere. Some of the articles mention how TFW has been so quiet on social media this year and how she hasn't posted any Christmas pics.
https://m.eonline.com/news/999413/jon-gosselin-celebrates-christmas-with-collin-and-hannah
https://www.etonline.com/jon-gosselin-spends-christmas-with-son-collin-and-daughter-hannah-see-the-sweet-holiday-pic-116319
https://people.com/tv/jon-gosselin-christmas-kids-girlfriend/
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jon-gosselin-spends-christmas-with-collin-and-hannah/
https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jon-gosselin-posts-christmas-photo-with-son-collin/
https://www.hollywoodlife.com/2018/12/26/jon-gosselin-christmas-collin-hannah-2018-family-pic/
https://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2018/12/jon-gosselin-home-for-the-holidays-with-his-kids/
https://www.celebrityinsider.org/amp/jon-gosselin-daughter-hannah-and-son-collin-pose-together-happily-in-christmas-pic-228596/
https://www.inquisitr.com/5223129/jon-gosselin-posts-happy-christmas-photo-at-home-with-kids-hannah-and-collin/
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Former Lurker said... 48
It looks like TFW deleted that comment. Interesting that she deleted that one but not some other negative comments.
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Can the poster go back and delete their comment(s). I saw a couple people had asked him where he saw the shrew, maybe he felt harassed? I don't think that Kate pays much attention to her IG account because there's worse comments she could/should delete.
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Susan1956, I'm not on Instagram, so I don't know if people can delete their own comments. I did see those other comments asking him where he saw TFW, but I also noticed that his IG account is private so I don't see how he could be harassed on IG. I wouldn't think he'd delete the comment, but who knows?
I watched that old clip of Kate posted by Daily Mail today. I had forgotten how obnoxious, arrogant and cruelly demeaning (toward the father of her children) she was in that interview. How could the court, TLC or anyone think Kate is an honorable,caring person?
M.
"TFW must be seething mad. Jon's lovely Christmas pic is getting picked up everywhere."
On yahoo earlier, I saw Kate was in the top searches. She should thank Jon for the publicity.
In a little over 24 hours since he posted it, Jon's family Christmas pic has 547 comments.
I wonder if these pictures of C are TFW's first opportunity to actually see her son since she sent him away.
Heifer didn't even bother showing up in court for the custody hearing, so her interest level in his welfare has been clearly telegraphed.
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On yahoo earlier, I saw Kate was in the top searches. She should thank Jon for the publicity.
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Jon's IG and the articles are also generating some comments on TFW's last IG post (the November 25th pic of the dog sleeping).
I bet this was the first Christmas in more than a decade that Mrs. Claus wasn't showered with gifts from fans and/or social media supporters. She abandoned her followers, and by now most of them have probably found other people to support who actually bother to stay connected with their fans.
On yahoo earlier, I saw Kate was in the top searches. She should thank Jon for the publicity.
Where’s Milo when you need her? She’d be ecstatically posting that Kate is “trending”
I want to wish everyone a peaceful, positive,and restful holiday season! Thanks for sharing the links to Jon's family photo.
I just got the January 7 2019 edition of People in the mail today, the 26th, and the Irwin children are on the cover, Robert and Bindi, who are now 15 and 20. "people exclusive" nice article, 5 full pages, lots of photos, highlights their Animal Planet series "Crikey! Its the Irwins". No mention of TFMJG or any of the family in print edition.
also got the TV Guide edition covering Jan 7-20. Minimal mention of reality tv shows, couple of travel shows and HGTV bought the Brady Bunch house to film a show with the Property Brothers renovating it! check HGTV.com for digital series "Building Brady" and see all of the actors who played the kids! No mention of TFMJH, that sp sailed long ago!
Kate's gang of die-hard supporters sure seems to be dwindling in numbers. A few years ago she could give them some half-baked excuse for her behavior and they'd go to battle to protect her while she sat back and laughed, never taking responsibility for her actions. I remember a picture of her screaming at her kids at the bus stop, and all she had to say was, "That picture was taken Tuesday, not Wednesday! Good try!" and they ran with it. They never stopped to consider the way she was treating the kids, instead thinking a discrepancy in the dates discredited the whole thing. She was in total control. Now two of her children are gone for good, and looking very happy with their dad, and no claim of incorrect dates can change that. Remember Goody (I believe it was her) advising Kate to tell the kids that they should never tell Jon anything, and to tell them he's the enemy? They all joined in to help her alienate the kids from their father, just so that Kate's abuse could remain hidden. She loved every minute of it, but now she's left with a situation she can't control and no army of adoring fans to fight her battles for her. I'm sure she's just passing the time until her dating show proceeds. If she can just get herself on TV, then everything will be right again. If TLC airs that show, that shows that they are fully aware of her abuse of her kids--and abandonment of Collin--and they not only approve, they were probably complicit. They deserve any backlash they get.
I love the fact that so many sites are showing that smirking interview clip. She showed her true colors, and those colors aren't pretty. I like to think that interview may have played a role in her losing custody. She basically admitted to hiding and alienating her son from Jon. And she can't take it back.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6533515/Jon-Gosselin-says-son-ex-wife-Kate-placed-facility-does-NOT-special-needs.html
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Daily Mail is reporting Jon's reply to a fan's question on IG about Collin having special needs. NO special needs. Kate's fake "special needs" story is being ripped to shreds and there's nothing she can do about it. And that nasty, smirking video is there. I'm loving all the sites showing that clip--it exposes her for the vindictive witch she really is.
I think this kid was REACTING to his messed up childhood. A reaction to a laundry list of bad behavior and choices from your mother does not mean you have a diagnostic special need!! 😡
I see US Magazine is picking up on Jon's response that Collin is not special needs. I hope that is spread far and wide. The next while is going to be tough enough for him without speculation about his supposed "problem". I think most people now agree that his special need was having screwy evil mother.
Admin (#68), and I still believe that TFW's physical abuse of C was a significant component to his issues. She admitted, in her own journal, that she grabbed her son by the hair, threw him into his crib, and beat him until she was scared she might do irreparable damage.
ROL's picked up the story about Collin's lack of "special needs" as well. Bitch must be seething at this point. Almost an entire month of negative news for her. All deserved, of course. Wonder if People will "go there."
https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/12/jon-gosselin-slams-ex-wife-kate-claims-son-collin-special-needs-after-custody-win/
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I see US Magazine is picking up on Jon's response that Collin is not special needs. I hope that is spread far and wide. The next while is going to be tough enough for him without speculation about his supposed "problem". I think most people now agree that his special need was having screwy evil mother.
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This may sound crazy, but in the end I actually think Hannah and Colin will be better off, even though they both had their major struggles with Kate that resulted in so many difficult times for them. Because at least they were facing their issues with Kate head on and being proactive about dealing with them. I worry more for a kid who is internalizing the abuse and narcissistic parenting, never really letting themselves feel the damage it is causing them, and never trying to fix it. Those are the kids who will be on the therapist coach at age 45 with two divorces under their belt, broken relationships abound, and a hefty case of depression. It's just so much healthier to deal with this sooner rather than later.
From Dmasy --
Admin, although my outcome was not quite as bleak as what you described in comment 73. You are not off base. (I speak for myself and 6 siblings.)
Not understanding that you aren't the flawed character and trying to appease the person with the flaws is exhausting and emotionally damaging.
They probably won't see the clear truth until they are older and have children of their own. Then -- the fallout. It takes wise counsel and/or a good spouse to help navigate the delayed maturing process.
I have always wished the best for those "celebrity" children.
I remember how Kate was riding high one time. She was the media darling. Barbara Walters made her one of the most interesting people of the year, and she cohosted on The View and had many media appearances. She got so many opportunities that she blew. Jon was a wuss, a cheater, a wimp. Remember Ed Hardy? I'm so glad the tides have turned. We "haters" knew something was wrong with that woman, and we were proven right.
pym (#70), great to see you!
Admin (#73), I agree about H and C actually having an advantage emotionally. As I've said before, I bet at least one of the 6 remaining with TFW will stay with her forever as her helper and protector. Four of those 6 are only 14, and still have 4 more years to endure under that roof. Or they could choose to live with their father, which would mean Mom deletes them from her life.
Pretty heavy stuff for a teenager to deal with.
I'm wondering if TFW stopped posting because she knew it would come out that Collin did not have challenges. That he was sent away to further her agenda.
I can't imagine what life must be like for the remaining kids in TFW's household. Who would have thought, even just a a couple of years ago, that her teflon coating would finally wear off?
The Dionne Quints are a prime example of what happens, when right from birth, you are made into a side-show attraction. They've sent letters to parents of multiples to warn them about the damage that can be done.
I am afraid of what TFW is saying to the other tups. Jon says they no longer talk to him. I am horrified by that. How emotionally conflicted they must be...afraid to not to please mommy. TFW is playing a dangerous
game of emotional manipulation.
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I think the only 'special' need Collin had was to get away from his mother. I'm sure he and Hannah will thrive now that they are living with their compassionate father. Give children enough time and they will figure out what's really been going on in the family.
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I remember a lot of sheeple got fleeced the day Kate whined about her son's special needs and explained to the public she was institutionalizing him. Because those fans, good mothers, would never do that to their sons and daughters no matter how hard it got with their special needs.
If they're even still paying any attention, I can't imagine what they must be thinking to know she was lying about that. They must hate her even more.
I always thought chances were slim that the Fake Date with Khate show was ever going to air, but I think it's safe to say now that these latest developments are the last nail in that coffin. We all know TLC's decisions have been hard to understand in the past, but they would really be insane to go forward with that show now. They don't need her to fill any gaps in programming or anything. And, why in the world would they want all the questions and bad press that would hit the fan once they tried to promote this show? More importantly, TFW should want to crawl under a rock and disappear at this point.
I am thrilled to see that Jon set the record straight about the "special needs" label. All those stories on various sites referring to Collin as "troubled". People speculating that he was violent and that he may have hurt the other kids or they might be afraid of him. And his mother never spoke up to stop these people from saying such awful things about him. She's so fast to set the record straight about any perceived slight to herself, but never stands up for the kids. What kind of mother lets people say her son is dangerous and doesn't correct them, even though she knows he's not? She let it go on because she loved being the martyr, the poor put-upon single mother of 8 who had to deal with it all by herself. Her self-interest far outweighed her concern for her child. In fact, she made sure she cashed in (with plenty of help from her enablers at TLC and People). Maybe Collin couldn't film, but by golly, she was going to find a way to make some more money off him.
I've said it before and I'll say it again--Thank God for Jon.
And his mother never spoke up to stop these people from saying such awful things about him
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Bingo. Flawed as he is, Jon stands up for his kids when she never did, and decades from now, they'll remember that.
My guess is that the rest of the kids feel like they are powerless to do anything. When you have lived in that kind of environment for most of your life, you become desensitized and think that it is normal. Classic case of Stockholm Syndrome.
I hope that the other kids will find the strength to finally break free and realize that their father will always be there for them no matter what.
All you people saying no good mother would send away her child? That's bullshit.
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Almost ALL, ALL behavioral problems can be addressed in the home, with intensive services, which are paid for by taxpayers through the school district. I know this for a fact because I've worked with all kinds of children even children who have tried to kill, rape, or injure other children or adults.
It's not the 1960s anymore, lady. *I* call BS.
The K&8 game show episode was filmed in February 2016. A poster noticed the date on the slate, which also revealed the kids were working on a weekend. And about a month later, C was sent away. According to TFW's People interview, C had these awful, terrible ongoing problems that were tearing his family apart, but were most especially hard on her because she was handling them ALL ALONE. And yet he was well enough to WORK just a few weeks before he was shipped off to inpatient care for YEARS?
Either C's issues were not nearly as bad as TFW claims, or they were bad and she simply ignored them for years -- choosing filming again and again over the wellbeing of her child until the situation became desperate. Either way, she is a horrible mother.
The holiday shopping season has come and gone, and it looks like TFW received zero freebies to shill on social media. The Duggar and Roloff wives have been hustling all kinds of things to their followers for months.
Poor mediocre Schmoopy. Remember how she dramatically claimed she could "never go back?" Well, heifer, check your GPS, because you're there.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 88
Well, heifer, check your GPS, because you're there.
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Oh Lordybe!! Comment of the day!!
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 86
All you people saying no good mother would send away her child? That's bullshit.
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Almost ALL, ALL behavioral problems can be addressed in the home, with intensive services, which are paid for by taxpayers through the school district. I know this for a fact because I've worked with all kinds of children even children who have tried to kill, rape, or injure other children or adults.
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Agree. Wrap Around services are the standard now. And for oppositional behavior, a big component is training the PARENT in response techniques. I can see TFW refusing to modify HER behavior/learn techniques but I can easily see Jon participating and learning for the sake of his son.
Susan1956 (#89), thank you -- I was merely tapping into my inner AuntieAnn!
Agree. Wrap Around services are the standard now.
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Correct, WRAP is the standard.
We also have something here called ITSP, the acronym escapes me now, but it's targeted toward behavioral problems. It's basically Wrap.
You don't institutionalize a child like this. You just don't. And yes, many if not most of these kids have siblings. I've even seen situations where if the child has been violent, they will sleep in a locked bedroom with a parent or other responsible adult while the other responsible adult sleeps with the other siblings. Wrap is here to help you find solutions like that so that you don't have to put your kid behind bars for gosh sakes.
Unless, and this is a big unless, the parent themselves is abusive or unsafe to handle the child.
I'm virtually certain now it was KATE who couldn't handle this child, not that the child could not have been parented just fine in the home with the right services.
Lurking (#90), and don't you wonder why Jon wasn't asked to participate from the get-go? Let's say the situation with C was indeed absolutely overwhelming, and doing tremendous damage to the family as a whole. Wouldn't a logical first step be to try shared custody with Jon? But no. That narcissist much preferred playing victim and martyr...eliminating her son from the household, scoring an awesome cover story with People, and carrying on with new episodes of K+7. Puppies! Parties! FUN!
FlimsyFlamsy (88) said....
Well, heifer, check your GPS, because you're there.
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FlimsyFlamsy, you have my vote for comment of the year
FlimsyFlamsy said... 91
Susan1956 (#89), thank you -- I was merely tapping into my inner AuntieAnn!
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You're welcome. Your comment inspired me to create a meme of Kate using parts of your comment. I've emailed it to admin asking her to pass it on to you if you would like it.
Thanks, Layla! And Susan1956, I'd love to see the meme!
FlimsyFlamsy said... 93
Yeah, this is what really clinched it for me. It seems to me that if she wasn't legally bound to bring him into the loop, she surely was morally bound to do so. That she didn't speaks volume about her need for control. She managed to convince ALL of those kids that their father didn't give a damn about them, and the two that have left have now discovered for themselves that it simply was not true. She is reaping the whirlwind, at last, and I hope those remaining with her are not being made miserable by her miserableness. She has NO excuses left.
LOL, I think it's pretty clear that the IG account mady.gosselin is not her real one. Still only 4 photos for the family "photographer" since the birthday. She's definitely got another place she posts.
@Sad but true if that account is fake then i have no idea why Kate would share a fake account.Maybe,since Mady is so much like Kate,could she be upset at Hannah and Collin being with Jon?That would be crazy but i still believe mady had a role in the remaining tups not seeing Jon IMO.
@Sad but true if that account is fake then i have no idea why Kate would share a fake account.
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I don't think it's fake I think it's just a "dummy" account set up by Mady or Kate to feed to the fans. It's even possible Mady told her mother this is her real account when really she's active on social media elsewhere from Kate's grasp. Kate's that stupid.
@Admin (49)Late comment but in regards to Alexis.From what i watched on the show,like Collin,she seemed fine but i remember both Hannah and Leah would shun her and call her crazy.Im not saying Hannah and Leah are right but on the couch scenes with the 3 tup girls,alexis at times seemed bored and would look around the room while mostly leah and hannah would do the talking.Maybe thats just what i see.Then again we don't know the reason why she doesn't see Jon.Personally i just hope she's ok and she won't be the tup that some people speculate that is going to have alot of relationship problems in the future.
Hey everyone! Hope you all had a nice Christmas!
I am so happy to hear Collin is finally home but at the same time my heart breaks thinking what hard 3 years this child must has had. What a hard life for poor Collin especially if it's true that he had no special needs and that he wasn't visited by his family at all. No way is this not going to stay with him forever. I can only hope bad times are behind him.
Although there are a lot of fake facebook accounts out there, it looks like Jon has been posting on this "verified" facebook page recently: https://m.facebook.com/therealjongosselin. Interestingly, Sylvia Lafair commented on his Christmas day post. Wasn't she the therapist who had to file a lawsuit to get paid?
Collen is friends with this Jonathan Gosselin: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=501364345&ref=content_filter
Jamesvader1194 said... 101
@Admin (49)Late comment but in regards to Alexis.From what i watched on the show,like Collin,she seemed fine but i remember both Hannah and Leah would shun her and call her crazy
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I agree totally. The other two girls would always leave Alexis out and call her names. I think Alexis is just more into animals and maybe a little less girly/'sophisticated' than H and L. She and Collin were often left out of activities or paired with Kate. I don't know why she would suddenly not be seeing Jon either. I always liked Alexis and her interest in things and funny quirky ways
Formerly Duped said... 104
IIRC, Alexis and Collin stopped seeing Jon at about the same time, but the other 4 kept doing weekend visitations right up until early last year (based on Jon's comments). I was never clear what that was about, and I don't expect we'll ever know, but I think it's safe to say it was something engineered by K8.
Formerly Duped Honestly,Alexis was always my favorite when i was a big fan of the show.I hope my comment doesn't sound weird but out of all of the girls she seems like the fun one.I could be wrong but i remember on one of the birthday episodes where she stated that she'd rather be doing what the boys were doing then what the girls were doing.To me,she seems like one of those tomboys who'd have alot of guy friends,which is why i hope she doesn't have relationship problemsin the future because of Kate.
Alexis loved the aldergators and wanted the lizard back pack. She told Kate a lighthouse wasn't too high. Kate was always hung on gender roles. She doesn't like to think outside the box which must've been hard on children who didn't fit in.
I always thought Alexis might be the next one 'to go' like Collin. The two were paired together for behavior and in activities and she was not always allowed to partake of the adventures at hand. l and H always were BFFs and excluded her. Glad if she's doing ok; sad she cannot see her dad.
Jamesvader1194, I have zero doubt that TFW has groomed the older girls to be her advocates. That M interview calling her father "toxic" said it all. Young teenagers like she was at the time are generally a self-centered lot, and M perhaps more than her twin. I can't imagine she was spending her time diagnosing her dad's behaviors and motives. My guess is she was parroting what her mother had said, and was likely rewarded handsomely for that support. Remember what TFW said -- you're either with her or against her. And M knows what side her bread is buttered on.
FlimsyFlamsy said... 109
When it came down to it, though, Mady & Cara were unable to deliver the real goods. Kate was completely humiliated on live TV after the twins clammed up & refused to bash their father on command. Kate kept urging them to say “what they did in the magazine” but they couldn’t go through with it. Despite Kate’s best efforts, the kids love their father, which gives me hope for an eventual reconciliation.
I think Alexis will follow and be the next to join Jon. She seemed to have a close relationship with him, Collin and Hannah, but I'm also concerned hat Kate may have been able to convince Alexis that Jon was a deadbeat Dad and that it would also be toxic for her if she would continue her visits with him. As she gets older and more mature in her thinking she may realize that her mother is the one alienating them from their father.
On another topic have a very Happy New Year to everyone on this blog and thanks to you Admin for all of the good work you and your colleagues have done throughout the year. My year is starting out catastrophic. I was bringing out my recycle bin and slipped on the ice. I had to have an urgent surgery because my wrist was shattered. I am now the proud owner of a metal plate, screws, a cast and sling. A great way to welcome in the New Year! Be careful everyone here and remember some minor things can wait.
Poor Alexis--from the recaps, she was always being excluded by the other girls. Nobody wanted to share a room with her, nobody wanted to sit with her. Hannah and Mady, IIRC, didn't get along because Mady wanted to be the leader of all the kids, but H was the leader among the tups. With Hannah gone, Mady can now be in charge. That would help explain the estrangement from Jon--if Mady is on board with Kate, she can help her alienate the younger kids from their dad.
The estrangement also coincided with Hannah leaving home to move in with Jon. I think Kate realized she couldn't get away with another child missing--especially since this one was leaving by choice, so she pulled out all the stops to alienate Jon for good and to keep Hannah from leaving. She made sure the kids knew that Jon was putting a stop to filming and they could lose everything. The situation seemed to start right about the time Kate..errr, I means Kate's "source"...told People that she was broke (again). She was setting up the narrative. The kids were reportedly helping put pressure on Hannah by shunning her. Hannah herself said, when asked whether her siblings still talked to her, that "the boys do". Thank goodness, it now seems that all the other tups talk to her. But--this estrangement is all about Kate and punishing Jon for taking one of the kids from her so she couldn't pull off filming K+8. Those kids equal money for her, and he took away not only her favorite child, he took away
the money she could have made from continuing the show.
I'm still wondering how, if she was broke and on the verge of losing the kids a year ago, she's still in the house, the kids are still in private school, and they seem to be just fine. How does that work? I always thought being broke meant you were out of money. It must mean something different to Kate.
Bluebird (#111), so sorry to hear about your injury. Hang in there!
Bluebird, I wish you a speedy recovery! I had a similar accident years ago and it's a very inconvenient one!
As for Alexis I thought she and Aaden were close but she was not very in tune with the other girl tups.
Layla (#112), didn't TFW once refer to A as either a "disrupter" or a "disturber?" And claim she was sleeping in the basement because she was a "bat," when we suspected it was actually Jon sleeping in the basement because they were secretly already separated?
Bluebird, your injury sounds scary! I'm praying for a full and quick recovery for you.
Bluebird,
I will pray for your speedy recovery. I had a plate and 18 screws put in my ankle a 5 years ago. Do your best to keep warm when it’s cold outside. The metal will get cold and make your wrist hurt.
Andrea
Bluebird I'm so sorry to hear you've broken your wrist & badly at that.
Good wishes to you for a speedy recovery!
Happy New Year everyone!
Bluebird...dang, that sounds painful. Hopefully, you won't be out of commission for too long. Hang in there.
Bluebird - wishing you a speedy recovery.
Happy New Year to everyone on this board. Tomorrow is my last day of work. I will clear post in the morning and be officially retired by lunch time.
Happy New Year everybody. We have one hour here until 2019 and I wish all of you a new year filled with joy, strength and blessings. For the Gosselin children, they have so many loving supporters on this blog. It also seems to be a place where everyone can just offload about any of the crap that life throws out, and a safe place to fall. Pretty special. Happy New Year everyone. Kind of crazy hearing you all talk about ice and snow. It's 92 degrees here. Sorry to hear about your accident Bluebird. Wishing you a speedy recovery.
From Dmasy --
Bluebird, I hope you mend quickly.
NJ Gal, congratulations on your retirement.
To everyone -- wishing you a blessed new year.
NJGal: Congrats on your retirement which I hope you enjoy to the fullest !
Happy New year to everyone. This forum had such good news re: Collin this year...let's hope for more in 2019!
NJ Gal congratulations on your retirement. We work hard all of our lives and deserve to lay low and enjoy the time to do what we want and when we want. I hope you have many fun projects to fulfill.
Thanks everyone for your kind thoughts, and thank God for medication, I count the hours before I can take the next dose, it hurts that bad.
Bluebird, so sorry to hear about your wrist injury. I hope the pain gets better every day. Hang in there.
NJGal, wishing you a very happy retirement.
Admin and everyone, may 2019 be filled with health, peace, and joy!
I'm wishing the same for Jon, Colleen, Hannah and Collin. The other kids too, of course. Hopefully, they will reconnect with Jon and their siblings in this coming year.
NJGal51...Congrats on your retirement! Enjoy! Happy New Year everyone!
FlimsyFlamsy said... 88
Poor mediocre Schmoopy. Remember how she dramatically claimed she could "never go back?" Well, heifer, check your GPS, because you're there.
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Teehee. At least can add "time traveller" to her McDonalds resume. Although I wonder if GPS will even function anymore on her ever-shrinking planet.
Happy New Year 15ers. A round of rumspringa for everyone and wishing health and happiness to all in 2019.
Wasn't Kate in Australia for New Year's? She was queen of the world then. And she had a New Year's party at home, and Milo was tweeting about Van the man or was it grow a boyfriend? I guess Milo has disappeared.
Happy New Year's!
Happy (almost) New Year, everyone! I will be staying home tonight watching TV with my honey. Not the most exciting way to celebrate, but my doctor just doubled my dose of Imuran (an immunosuppressant med to treat my lupus), and it is kicking my butt! I feel like I have the flu. My liver, kidneys, and bone marrow don't want to work right, so hopefully this will get them back to a functional state. It took me about a month to adjust to Imuran when I first started taking it, so I'm guessing it'll be the same for this dosage increase. Can't wait to feel normal again!
DH brought home yummy snacks and we're going to snuggle up and watch Bird Box on Netflix, then watch the ball drop. The boys all have parties to go to, but they'll all be home for brunch tomorrow. That's my happy place, gathered in my kitchen with all my noisy, happy, fun-loving guys. I'm a lucky gal.
Happy New Year to all who share their concerns about the lack of happiness, health and safety of the Gosselin children.
bm
Thank you all for your well wishes in my retirement. After 36 years of moving around as an army wife and working for the FedGov, its time.
Happy New Year everyone!!
WE've just had 14 close friends over tonight so I'm in a happy place right now. We count our blessings we have friends that mean so much to us...can't imagine TFW & her kids sitting in their empty "mansion" .
running mummy@mumlvs2run 27 Dec 2018
@BarbGilmer @Mydmaxx @MsGoody2Shoes33 @Kateplusmy8 Miss the old tweet parties! Happy 2019 everyone 🤗🎊🎉🍾
#My3AndMe@BarbGilmer 3h3 hours ago
Replying to @mumlvs2run @Mydmaxx and 2 others
Those days are done! Obviously @Kateplusmy8 has Left twitter and now instagram!
#My3AndMe@BarbGilmer 3h3 hours ago
Replying to @mumlvs2run @Mydmaxx and 2 others
Kate don’t give a crap about us, I should’ve gotten my head out of the clouds long ago! I hate to say this but many other ppl should of to!
Looks like another sheeple finally had the wool removed from over her eyes.
Colleen posted pictures on her IG of a NYE party. Collin looks so happy, especially in the picture where he’s hugging a dog.
Jon posted the following picture on FB.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156867012279346&set=a.10150591644959346&type=3&theater
Great picture of him, Colleen and Collin.
Meanwhile, crickets from Kate.
Cute picture of Jon, Colleen, Collin and their dog on Facebook too. https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=501364345&ref=content_filter
NJGal, could you post the link, please? I don't have Colleen's IG. Glad to hear Collin is happy.
@Interesting tweets Im not shocked that Barb of all people is deciding to leave.There have been hints by her that she wasn't happy with what Kate has done to Collin.Now that Kate is MIA and no where to be seen,she pretty much is gone.Im starting to wonder if Milo realized that Collin being with Jon opened her eyes cause even she's been gone for months.I just hope it wasn't anything bad.
I am happy to see Collin has a dog. I believe that pets can help people heal. My dog Winston has given me unconditional love when I need it. He comforts me when I am sick. And he is always happy to see me.
Andrea
Jon posted two pics on Instagram earlier tonight:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BsHNCpsjHmN/
jongosselin1 HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! 2019 Here we come!!!
Happy New Year everyone!
NJGal, happy retirement!
Layla and Bluebird, hope you both feel better!
I'm busy with work, and grandbabies, but will still stop by once in a while to say hi.
TFMJG is now, and ever will be, boring.
Jon's New Year pictures are being picked up everywhere--even People covered them. And there's no more cut-and-paste of Mady's comments from 2016. I guess they realize that it's now 2019 and it's about time to let that go. I'm cheering Jon on--I think he should keep the happy pictures coming. After all the harm Kate has done to Collin, all the labeling she did, I think it's good for people to see just what a happy, normal kid he really is. That's the best way to make people realize that the real problem was Kate (and TLC, of course), not Collin. Now if the news sites would just stop saying C is "troubled"! Nothing points to him being troubled except Kate's words, and I don't believe anything she says.
Former Lurker said... 140
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Thanks- Collin looks very happy and healthy. i;'m sure celebrating the holidays with his family will be a good way to re-enter the real word...I'm sure he will get his braces at last too. He is a good-looking boy. They look like a happy crew!
Hope everyone enjoyed their Christmas and New Years.
I am glad that Collin seems so happy. I also have to say I'm impressed that nobody as asked Kate to "set the record straight," again. Not sure she could this time even if someone asked.
I do wonder what she's going to do now. Her statement of not being able to go back, looks like it's arrived. I have to say I'm impressed she's not posted anything in sometime. I imagine it be pretty hard to do so without being questioned.
I hope the rest of the kids now will get the grow up normally without TLC filming them or Kate milking them. So you have 8 kids...and? What now?
Random thought, as it's January: what a difference four years makes. This time four years ago, TFW was once again riding high, (in her attention-loving, narcissistic mind). Her season on Celebrity Apprentice was about to premiere, (on January 4, 2015), and after around three years since its cancellation in 2011, another season of Khate Plus 8 was also about to start.
Four years later, her life is an absolute mess. She has no means of income and hasn't even tried to do anything on her own without the kids in all these years. Does she really have enough money, (that she got off the kids' backs), invested to carry her through the rest of life?
More importantly, two kids no longer live with her, and the various siblings have strained relationships with each other and with their father. Two of the kids will be leaving for college in the fall. She'll soon be left with four kids, and still refusing to get a job. More kids might decide to abandon ship and go to Jon's home.
In the meantime, Jon has been in a stable relationship for several years. They're living in a nice new home and seem to have a lovely blended family with H and C living there. Jon and Colleen appear to be a solid couple who bring the best out in each other and work together as a team for their family.
Almost ten years after they split up, Jon has a normal, happy life with his partner, his kids, his extended family, and many friends while TFW has a very lonely, isolated, boring, pathetic existence with no job, no family, fractured relationships amongst the kids, few real friends if any, seemingly no interests or activities, and no romantic partner. She is so far below "mediocre", it's sad. It's 2019 and her future looks bleak, and she has no one to blame but herself.
Remember TFW's biggest fan, Paige? This is interesting:
Paige C
@paigealanna_c
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Dec 17
Changed my @ from paige_kate8fan to paigealanna_c
https://mobile.twitter.com/paigealanna_c
"Remember TFW's biggest fan, Paige?"
She was so young when she started. I guess she's in her 20's now. Maturity and Kate's actions must have set her straight.
ncgirl, Paige's Twitter bio says she's 24. TFW's Twitter bio says she opened her Twitter account in March of 2011, and I think Paige came on the scene around that time. So, she must have been around 16, which is about what I remember from back then.
"So, she must have been around 16, which is about what I remember from back then."
Yeah, she was around that age. I remember thinking how odd at that age to be obsessed with a stay at home mom reality star. I believe they met on some talk show.
Then there was another young fan, Emily, I believe. She was at some event with the Gosselins and held one of the children in her lap. I just know at that age, I would not have cared about a middle aged reality star mom even she was nice unlike Kate.
So Happy for Jon, Hannah and Collin. Happiness just radiates from that photo. Such a beautiful blended family Jon has created. Looks as if Collin might have his braces finally too. That photo might represent the most genuinely joyful moment those kids have had since birth.
Happy New Year...a little late!
NJGal51, congratulations on your retirement -- quite a milestone!
How lovely to see these smiling pictures of C. Surely there will be a period of adjustment for everyone in his new household. But I bet that during the transition, HIS needs will come first. At Ms. Gosselin's Home For Exploited Children, he seemed to rank dead last -- after his narcissistic mother, her bodyguard, 5 girls, 2 other icky dirty boys, a bird, some chickens, and a neglected dog.
I’m just remembering four years ago and even further back, there were headlines all over painting Jon as the “deadbeat”, “womanizing, “looser”. Now we are seeing everything turning in his favor. More and more mainstream media outlets are painting Jon as a loving and a stable person. Even People magazine can no longer deny this fact. This is Kate’s worse nightmare. More fans are beginning to realize that Jon isn’t so bad after all. Some fans are even beginning to comprehend what the “haters” have been saying all along about Kate. Kate has always blamed Jon, the haters (truthers) and everyone else for her shortcomings . It’s becoming more apparent to the fans that she doesn’t care about them after all. More and more are walking away. She’s the cause of this. Karma has finally arrived
Some fans are even beginning to comprehend what the “haters” have been saying all along about Kate.
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...Which is not surprising given their intellect. What was clear as a bell to us ten or eleven years ago is now just dawning upon their little wooley noggins. But what the hey, better late than never. It's just so sad that Jon had to go through the nine circles of hell to get custody of two of his kids. His perseverance is admirable.
.Which is not surprising given their intellect. What was clear as a bell to us ten or eleven years ago is now just dawning upon their little wooley noggins. But what the hey, better late than never. It's just so sad that Jon had to go through the nine circles of hell to get custody of two of his kids. His perseverance is admirable
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I do kind of find it sad to watch them realize now, oh gee I guess Kate doesn't care about me.
Like, we told you that ten years ago. We tried to spare you and warn you.
Like, we told you that ten years ago. We tried to spare you and warn you.
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Castaways, all of them lol. Well now they know how it feels to get dumped into Kate's cull bin. And maybe they feel just a teeny bit of the hurt that Collin must have felt when he was shuttled off to the land of misfit boys.
"Like, we told you that ten years ago. We tried to spare you and warn you."
I watched Jon and Kate plus 8 and as the episodes went on, it was obvious to me and people here something was off with Kate. But the media and TLC twisted the story around and fooled a lot of people. It's sad and interesting how powerful companies can manipulate things for the big bucks.
ncgirl (#156), that orchestrated and well-financed manipulation makes Jon's victory even more remarkable. It really was David vs. Goliath.
TFW's botoxed jaw must still be on the floor.
I wonder where Kate’s lawsuit against Jon is in the legal process. I have not seen any updates since it was filed.
Andrea
Only 5 months until M and C graduate high school. The way things look now, I can't imagine TLC making an episode about it. And unlike Mother's Day or Christmas, this event can't be faked on a different date to accommodate TLC's schedule.
I very much doubt that K8 is without cards yet to play in this purported custody battle. The amount she sued for in spring 2018 for back child support is still in play (according to what has been disclosed). And I would not be at all surprised if some "up-close and personal" interview comes forth soon from People (or some other mouthpiece for TLC).
It IS interesting that her TLC FB page has not been updated since 11/21, when it featured some other "mom" doing something ridiculous for Thanksgiving. Xmas was entirely avoided, and the page has only been half-assedly maintained for the whole of 2018, with very little K8-related anything posted there. This makes me think they truly are done with her, barring some Baba Wawa-type interview in prime-time (that is, NOT in one of the tab shows), in which she declares she's transgender and in love with Jazz; or decides life would be more cost-effective if she were to move in with Honey Boo-boo and Mama June. I actually don't put either of these options past her, I don't think we've yet plumbed the depths she will go to maintain her notoriety.
Whatever she may be planning should probably happen sooner than later, though, lest the public lose interest. I confess to being almost there myself. But I do enjoy seeing the genuinely-happy family pictures, like the ones that have been posted on Jon's IG for the last few months. They were a long time coming, but it's heartening to see that the tide has finally turned in Jon's favor, to whatever extent.
Am I interested in random dogs in uninteresting poses/ settings? Not so much. If she doesn't find something new, her IG is toast. (Or it would be, if she weren't buying 1K followers a week.)
I think Kate is still trying to figure out how to spin the Collin situation to fit her agenda. She has always played the victim, always gone for sympathy. Everyone does her wrong, she does it all herself, she's all alone, she's perpetually broke, boo-hoo. But now she's not sure if she can get away with it. She can't shut Jon up, or Hannah, or Collin. If she speaks out, she may be opening floodgates of information--maybe just from Jon, maybe H and C too--that will just make her look worse. Jon has custody, so that means he should have access to C's medical records. Who knows what's in there? He could release information she would rather people not know. There's a reason she's keeping quiet, and I think it's out of self-preservation.
I'm not surprised that Barb is finally seeing the light. She was always one of the more reasonable fans. It wouldn't be hard to look back and realize that Kate only communicated with them when she wanted something from them--wanted them to watch her show, sign up for her cruise, fight her battles for her, send her things. It's obvious that the Kate they all supported or so long is a fraud. The smarter ones have her figured out by now.
Sad but true (#160), I agree we can't be too confident about TFW being gone for good. But, yes, the clock is ticking.
The landscape of reality TV has changed dramatically since Schmoopy's heyday. She is less and less likely to get that 2nd chance -- or are we up to 3rd, 4th or 5th? -- to "hit it out of the park." We are overrun with multiples, Kardashians, housewives, and teen moms. Not to mention cooking and house renovation shows. People like Joanna Gaines and Ree Drummond have become cash cows, turning their shows into veritable empires. It takes determination, hard work and smarts. TFW lacks all 3.
I also believe Kate is plotting her return to "fame" and money. I would be shocked to hear she is back to work as a nurse or any other "mediocre" job. No...she has proven she is obsessed with filming and has shown she will do ANYTHING to keep that gravy train going. Does anyone really think she will "go gentle into that good night"?
M.
@sad but true I serious thought that kate would plan to do a growing up gosselin spinoff show with the remaining kids.Just like with the duggars.Kate could use the excuse that both Hannah and Collin didn't want to do the show anymore and claim that she's respecting their privacy,even though we'd know thats not true.I must say her silence is still shocking,now even a dog picture.Not to sound like a stalker but i wonder what she's up to.
Oh no, Kate has no intention of ever "going back". If things have slowed down--or stopped--on the filming front, then she is busy plotting a way to get back on TV. It may be harder than she realizes, though. Nobody seems very interested in interviewing her these days, and when is the last time she was on a magazine cover? Even the corner of People? It's been awhile. Last time the show stopped she was constantly on talks shows, morning shows, being interviewed and photographed. Not now. If she never appears on TV again, I don't think anyone will really notice--or miss her. She sees this as a temporary situation and will hound TLC until her last breath to get them to film her (she knows by now that nobody else is even remotely interested). When she's broke and bankrupt, with the kids' college money gone (heaven forbid), she'll still be holding out for something on TV. She will destroy everything and even then she will not back down. There will be no pretty ending, mark my words.
I just read an article about the iconic--and inimitable--Lee Radziwill, and this comment stood out: " I think everyone has regrets, and people who say they haven’t are either liars . . . or narcissists."
Lee nailed it! Kate claims she lives without regrets, but lacks the self-awareness to understand what that says about her.
I agree we haven't heard the last of Kate. She hated Jon before all this custody happened with Hannah and Collin. Right now she must want to hurt him to his core. She just hasn't worked out exactly how to yet or is scheming behind the scenes on how to get revenge with whatever resources she has. She's cunning and I don't believe she'll give up. I really hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am.
Kate abandoned her Instagram in November.
Reason being? She probably received her final pink slip from TLC.
Her social media served one purpose only, and that was to maintain interest with the public. If she was finally shown the door, then goodbye Instagram!
On another note, I just can’t comprehend that she didn’t SHOW UP in court for one of her kid’s custody issue.
Did Jon gain custody from Kate or the State of PA?
There’s no way Kate lost custody of Collin because she didn’t show up for Kate. Kate didn’t show up BECAUSE she knew she was losing custody and didn’t want to be there to see Jon “win.”
Kate didn’t want Collin back but she didn’t want Jon to get him. I’m sure her lawyer told her that there’s no way the court is going to rule for Collin to stay in the facility when he has a loving dad who wants him to live with him in a real home.
And Kate wasn’t going to pay her lawyer to show up in court when there’s nothing in it for her.
Old poster, you have asked the right question at last! I never even thought about the state having custody! That would explain A LOT! Could it be that the state took him away from her? OR----- did she relinquish her rights to the state? Oh my!
ADMIN, PLEASE WEIGH IN ON THIS!
Old poster, you have asked the right question at last! I never even thought about the state having custody! That would explain A LOT! Could it be that the state took him away from her? OR----- did she relinquish her rights to the state? Oh my!
ADMIN, PLEASE WEIGH IN ON THIS!
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I've been saying for over a year that the most logical explanation for what is going on here is CPS took custody AWAY from Kate. Yes, I do think CPS is involved and calling the shots with a judge's approval.
Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 171
I've been saying for over a year that the most logical explanation for what is going on here is CPS took custody AWAY from Kate. Yes, I do think CPS is involved and calling the shots with a judge's approval.
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If this is true . . . man, the balls on her! I mean, to go on the cover of People and then make the rounds of TV tabs, claiming SHE made the choice to send Collin away---the depth of deceit is just mind-boggling. I hope TLC has cut all ties with her, I think she is truly out of her mind.
Maybe that is another reason Kate did not want to go to court. She was afraid it would come out that Collin was taken away from her. Maybe his long term treatment was from the damages she did to him not Collin having other challenges. The ones that Jon shot totally down.
For all her bluster at the end of the day Kate’s a coward. If she knows she’s losing she’s too much of a coward to go in there and take her medicine. Grow up. Except she never will.
She gained fame through her reality show. It sounds like she is now facing the "real" reality that she lost custody to the State and Jon has regained custody. It's no wonder she has gone to ground; "real" reality can crush you when you having been living a lie.
bm
I don' t see how the state could take Collin away and leave the other children in the same situation. Maybe Collin was Kate's main whipping boy, but the others did not escape totally. Remember Mady being 'happied up?' Or Leah being spanked under her dress? The journal outlining various spankings and confinements to cribs? I don't see how things could be hidden and just Collin be taken away. JMO.
Jon has a post on Facebook with Rules to Teach your Son and posted a lot if pictures with it.
Collin is in a red and white "Where's Waldo" striped shirt, hat and glasses in the one picture on Jonathan's Facebook page. I do wonder if that was a cut at the "Where's Collin " question? A good one if that is so.
Phreddie
From what we know, there was an episode of Kate's Fake Date filmed at an escape room in NYC. 5 teenage girls just died when they were trapped in an escape room and unable to get out during a fire. TLC might not want to air that episode any time soon. It would be awfully insensitive, especially since the safety of escape rooms is in question. One more good reason to shelve the whole dating show idea.
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The pictures in Jon Facebook are awesome. Hannah, Aaden and Joel are also in the pics, but the other girls are missing. So sad!
Nan
Nan, could you please tell me what album the photos are in? I don't have FB although his is public but I can;t find the kids!
That is sad about the girls.
Jon has two Facebook accounts. Look under the Jonathan Gosselin account and you will find the pics.
Phreddie
Thanks- but there are so many! Do you have a link? I found the certified Jon Gosselin one but no kid pictures! Sorry to be a pest who is not FB savvy!
Jonathan Gosselin facebook post:
https://www.facebook.com/501364345/posts/10156877642959346/
Hope this help!
Nan
I think Jon was showing pics of his boys (since the post was about Rules to Teach your Sons) and some of the girls just happen to be in them, not that he was specifically not including the other girls or that he doesn't have pics with them ....
Formerly--go to the post he put up yesterday "Rules to Teach Your Son", and the pictures are attached. Just click on the pictures and you can see all of them.
Oh, come ON. The safety of escape rooms everywhere is not being questioned because of a tragedy in Poland. Children have been killed on roller coasters. Should those be banned from television
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Actually that's not true, the safety of escape rooms IS being questioned around the world, and it's come to light that not all escape rooms have a quick and easy escape in an emergency. Poland is shutting down 13 other escape rooms that could be dangerous in a fire. There have been numerous interviews with people in the escape room industry in the US about what safeguards we have here. Here's just one story of hundreds about it.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/after-death-teens-polish-escape-room-attention-turns-safety-n955126
I went to one in Los Angeles a few years ago, and there WAS an unlocked exit door in each room you were encouraged to use in an emergency, whether fire or even panic. However, it would end your game. That is safe. You were also permitted to push a "help" button to call an attendant to come in for hints or questions, this would not end your game. Apparently, not all escape rooms have such a safeguard, and five people died for it.
That being said, I don't see that as a reason not to air an escape room episode. There's even an escape room movie coming out. I don't think it's "too soon" since most escape rooms are safe. I'm not big on in any situation not showing or airing things because it's "too soon" because I find such a line arbitrary, but reasonable minds can differ, so the scolding really isn't necessary.
So when you went on about Kate dumping him in an institution you were lying, because you believe he was taken away by CPS?
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Nice try with your "gotch-ya", but no. Both could be correct. Do you understand how CPS works? It's not like they take your child and that's it. You are given every opportunity to get your child back from his placement, whether that's an institution or a placement like foster care. Either way, if you do what they ask you to do and make progress, you get them back. Reunification is the rule in every state. Also, some parents dump their kids willingly on CPS, some people use CPS as a vehicle to institutionalize their kids so they don't have to pay. Voluntary dumpings on CPS happen on a weekly basis if not daily.
So either scenario I believe it's fair to say she dumped him, whether it was active or passive, this kid was dumped. The fact that she doesn't show for her court date is proof she dumped him. All the other sheeple woke up, when will you?
Hmm,i wonder if Hannah or Collin got in touch with their two brothers and maybe Aaden and Joel wanted to go see Collin,i thought it was reported that Jon doesn't see the 4 other tups?Regardless im glad that it seems the two boys are there.I hope Leah was there as well.I still feel kinda sad how alexis doesn't go.
The pictures on Jon's FB of Collin are wonderful. He looks healthy and relaxed. I think the photos of the other boys might be older ones, though, not within the last year or so.
I could be wrong, but I think the pictures with Joel and Aaden from Jon's Facebook post may have been from an earlier time. They look a little younger, especially the one with Hannah in it. Plus J&A still have braces, no? Regardless, it shows that the boys enjoy being with their Dad.
Hannah and Collin look so happy in those pics!
Aww, isn't it cute that the poor sheeple have nowhere to go with their tantrums than our little "cesspool of hate" here? What happened to their own blogs, where they can gather and defend Kate and trash us for ever doubting her? Are there any left? I guess not since they have nowhere else to go. They're having a hard time finding an outlet for their rage now that their queen is finally being unmasked. The world is now seeing the monster she really is. We knew all along.
Well, Kate lovers, since you just can't stay away, why not pull up a chair and relax with us? Pour yourselves a drink, put your feet up. I made a cake this morning. The Pioneer Woman's "Best Chocolate Sheet Cake. Ever." recipe, and I have to tell you, it really is the best. Ever. Remember--chocolate makes you happy (all the endorphins and serotonin). You'll be feeling better in no time. Anyone hungry?
Thanks, Nan. I could see a few of them! Collin has glasses! The kids looks so close, real family.
Jonathan Gosselin facebook post:
https://www.facebook.com/501364345/posts/10156877642959346/
Hope this help!
Nan
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Rules to Teach Your Son #24
Ask your mom to play. She won't let you win.
I don't know who wrote those rules, but they sure as hell had Katie Irene pegged on that one.
(Loving the photo of Collin with his arm around Hannah.)
I’m almost certain that the pics of Aiden and Joel are older pics, maybe a year or 2 older.They look much younger compared to the “going back to school” photo Kate posted and they are wearing summer clothing. Hannah also looks younger in the very last pic. The first seven pics seem to be the most recent
I hope the pics including Joel and Aaden aren't old ones... is there any way to verify the date they were taken? I too am not Facebook savvy, Formerly Duped!
I'm afraid I am agreeing with the others that the photos with Joel and Aiden appear a little older. It's definitely before Joel got his braces as you can see by the condition of his teeth in these photos.
When Kate is interviewed about Collin she is very careful to NOT say she made the decision..
" it wasnt even a choice...it was on the advise of doctors " and I forget the rest but if she solely made the decision she would take credit.
The advise from doctors may have been that Collin needed to stop filming or may live elsewhere...and well..Kate has been pretty clear that if it isnt with her, it certainly isnt with Jon....
AuntieAnn (#195), I think that dad rule needs to be tweaked just a bit:
"Ask your mom to play. But don't get your feelings hurt if she doesn't recognize you."
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