Monday, November 5, 2018

Collin spends the weekend with Jon

We hope this marks a transition home to Jon permanently! Sweet Collin looks so happy and healthy.

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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Dmasy (#30), I'm glad you took your time getting to Part 2. It shows you can control your murder obsession, and we won't have to stage that intervention after all. Although your intervention would certainly make more interesting viewing than anything featuring TFW!

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I wanted to be Kathleen Zellner for Halloween but there wasn't time to pull it off. I'd get a long dark wig and wear a business suit and a chunky pearl necklace. A notepad to keep track of all my brilliant ideas. Done and done!

She seriously blew my mind when she figured out that Teresa would have had to have had her planner on her when she died because of the late appointment she wrote in it. So how the heck did the ex boyfriend have her planner before they found her car.....

The hell!

I think that's a Murder obsession.

RoxyHelen said...

Is it me or does Collin look close to his normal self (before he started looking medicated on the show) now? I hope Collin can leave that institution soon too. No idea what his difficulties were (and I don't think there's any way to tell from clips filmed a certain way by TLC) but I really do hope he overcomes them or at least is taught to manage them. I've followed since the sextuplets were 4. I still can't believe what's happened to this family.

Layla said...

People posted a story about Collin spending the weekend with Jon, and of course they just had to include the twins' claims from 2016 that they don't see Jon. I think they just copy and paste that paragraph in every Gosselin story. 10 years from now, when the kids are all grown and speaking out, People will still include that ancient blurb in every story. That is, if Kate Coyne is still there by then.

RoxyHelen said...

Sorry for the double comment.

I also don't think Jon is doing this for attention. It really seems like he is keeping people in the know very briefly, with no details. Kind of how Michael Bubble and his wife made some statements and released a few photos throughout their son's fight against cancer. Seems more like a non harmful (to the children) way to be respectful of the audience who has supported them for years and a way to do damage control and prevent too much intrusiveness. I'm saying all this because I know Kate's fans are quick to say Jon is betraying the kids' privacy (Jon. The guy who opposed the show and the filming of the divorce/home drama. Not Kate, the one who kept filming for years and years after it was obvious that it would have been best for the cameras to go away).

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



I also don't think Jon is doing this for attention. It really seems like he is keeping people in the know very briefly, with no details.

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Nah. He's just like any other parent on social media posting moments with their kids that make them proud. And frankly I think it's good for kids to see their parents proud and showing them off, as long as it's not excessive. Kids need to feel like they're a star now and again.

You don't do it for "attention." You do it because you're proud.

AuntieAnn said...

That photo looks like three happy survivors of a terrible ordeal. They're all beaming. Collin especially looks terrific. I hope he's able to move in with Jon and Hannah soon and get on with a more normal life than he's ever known.

AuntieAnn said...

It reminds me a lot of much of rural midwest/northeast anywhere. Cold, poor, desolate. People with little education, some with low IQ's, and many poor life choices. Lived there their entire lives and have no idea what the world is like outside of Avery's scrap yard.

I love the accents.

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It's a lot like the dialogue between characters in Fargo (the movie), especially when Barb talks to Brendan on the prison phone: "Yeah?" "Yeah." "Yeah." pause "Yeah."

Not that there is anything funny about this whole saga, but their vernacular is sometimes amusing as if they are communicating on a whole different level and completely understanding each other. But I think we have to take into account that there are cameras on them and they're being recorded, so there's that.

Oh and what's with that cop Colburn? I noticed he kept his head down and rarely made eye contact when he was being questioned in court. He looks like the cat that swallowed the canary. What's he hiding?

Mama C said...

You will also notice he made sure there were no comments other than a couple positive ones on his what I consider an update. Kate has been trying to fool her followers into thinking Hannah is still (or back) living with her

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It's a lot like the dialogue between characters in Fargo (the movie), especially when Barb talks to Brendan on the prison phone: "Yeah?" "Yeah." "Yeah." pause "Yeah."

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YEP. I have been interested in regional American accents for years. The Great Lakes region accents have a lot of similarities. I was just in Buffalo this weekend, not far from where I grew up, and upstate New York sounds a lot of like Wisconsin.

It's a lot of yeah's, yeah's, and OH ARRRRE YA? Some dropping of the g's. Hard R's.

I like how Delores Avery says "he's innocent." It's, inn-O-cent.

America is lovely.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Oh and what's with that cop Colburn? I noticed he kept his head down and rarely made eye contact when he was being questioned in court. He looks like the cat that swallowed the canary. What's he hiding?

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Isn't that the cop who was in the convenience store when a random witness saw him and said oh hey officer I saw Teresa's car heading this way the day she died shouldn't you check that out? And then never heard anything again from the cops? That's downright incompetence if not outright intentional.

Layla said...

Jon's IG post is one of the top stories on the Daily Mail site. Almost all comments on all sites are positive toward Jon and scathing toward Kate. People really "get it".

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

People posted a story about Collin spending the weekend with Jon, and of course they just had to include the twins' claims from 2016 that they don't see Jon.

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I'm starting to think that "the twins don't see Jon" blurb is in the Gosselin story template at People and the only one who can unlock the template to change it is Kate Coyne.

AuntieAnn said...

Isn't that the cop who was in the convenience store when a random witness saw him and said oh hey officer I saw Teresa's car heading this way the day she died shouldn't you check that out?

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You'd think so. Another odd thing was her car was parked quite close to where Scott lived before he married Barb. But it seemed to me that the cops were going to hang this on the Averys no matter what other evidence was found and so Colburn only asked for verification of Teresa license plate and nothing more. Very suspicious.

Anonymous said...

That’s a nice family picture. It’s great to see Collin looking so happy. I still remember how sedated he looked on Kate Plus 8. In this picture he looks like he is fully awake and alert.

Andrea

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#12), that "the twins don't see Jon" story was one thing when the girls were young teens and still under their mother's thumb. But they're young adults now, and I think that decision makes them sound shallow and childish.

Gigi Be said...

Jon posted another pic of Collin getting his haircut by a good friend of his.

A HUGE thank you to EricRodriguez at Mike and Joe’s Barber Shop for welcoming my son Collin home with a new haircut!! Eric has cut my hair for 20 plus years.#family #teammikeand Joe’s I appreciate everything MikeandJoe’shas done for me and my family over the years. Thank you guys for being there!!

There’s a pic of Jon’s friend, in a barber salon, that has just cut Collin’s hair. Again, Collin looks happy and healthy, It’s also refreshing to see that Jon has an unpaid, genuine friend that has stood through this friendship, thick and thin,with all that Jon must have gone through all these years. It’s a big victory for all of them! Just beautiful

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bpzpb7UB0Md/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1oatwy3thslaf



Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I like how Jon proudly calls Collin "MY SON."

I really don't hear Kate use the term my son or my daughter much. It's always the kids, or the girls, or the boys. It's subtle, but it makes things seem impersonal when it comes to that woman.

Emily said...

So wonderful to see Collin spending this time with Jon and Hannah! I agree that Jon posts these pictures because he's genuinely proud of his kids, not because he's trying to get tons of likes. I'm sure he's also aware that many people are clamoring for details re: where Collin's been all this time, and I think these photo updates are a discreet way of showing the public that his son is happy and healthy. (Unlike Kate's weird evasion tactics she's been using forever.)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



The one thing I hated about this second season was how much Kratz and his little boy voice and his being interviewed all the time. Why in heck did the producers want him on there so much when he is so disliked? He gives new meaning to the word smarmy!

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I noticed how willing he was to be interviewed and to go on about how solid he feels his case still is. In a way I felt like the producers were just letting him dig his own grave. Let the guy talk and continue to make a fool of himself and let the viewer be in shock at how he has no shame.

The way that he cross examined witnesses always irritated me, it was too calm, too linear, too calculated. I don't know, it was just annoying.

Sad but true said...

Finally.

https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/11/jon-gosselin-files-for-full-custody-son-collin-kate-gosselin/

Anonymous said...

The people who are posting comments on the Daily Mail site are not primarily demonstrating love and support for TFW. I agree with Admin. "My son" speaks volumes!

bm

Sad but true said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 19

Don't forget, he was shilling his book about the case.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

If Jon filed for custody, allowing him this weekend visit may be a trial run of that.

Sad but true said...

I feel so happy for Jon and Collin. Hannah, too. Admin, do you think this turn of events has had any impact on Jon's visitation with the other three kids who had regularly been seeing him? Besides K8 turning up the nastiness, that is?

Dmasy said...

I have now begun watching "The Haunting of Hill House". Think -- Steven King wrote This Is Us episodes. (If you liked Six Feet Under, you will probably like Hill House.)

Lots of late night TV for me.

Hubby is still in Illinois completing his final harvest. I think he started helping on the family farm around age 10 when his foot could reach the tractor petals.

This is a sentimental season.

Dmasy said...

The photo of Jon with two of his smiling children is heart-warming. Many of us have waited a very long time for just such a moment. Thanks to Jon for sharing just a bit with us.

Dmasy said...

I can't let my comment 25 go uncorrected. Of course, I meant pedal not petal!!

Formerly Duped said...

Aw, Collin looks great! Maybe he will get the braces all his siblings were privileged to have as well. But a HOME with his dad is best of all.I truly feel a burden lifted from my heart and I am just an ex-viewer! Of course the other kids are still in mind...

Formerly Duped said...

Dmasy, I love Shirley Jackson's books/short stories, so I will try this too.

ncgirl said...

There are articles that give more details.
https://www.eonline.com/news/983835/collin-gosselin-visits-jon-gosselin-for-the-first-time-in-3-years

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/collin-gosselin-is-very-intelligent-doesnt-have-tv-at-new-facility/

"Collin came up for the weekend," the proud parent told E! News. "It was his first visit in three years. He stayed with me."

"It was great to have him back home," Jon told E! News. "We did a lot of eating."

"I've been seeing him regularly but it's been me going to him," the former Jon and Kate Plus 8 star said. "This was his first time coming to visit me."

“Collin is very intelligent. He was always questioning Kate and talking back,” a source close to Jon exclusively tells Us Weekly. “Kate doesn’t like that.”
According to the source, Collin is thriving at a the new facility, where he does not have access to a television. Jon is in close contact with the program’s staff. “They work closely with Jon and really do care about Collin,” the source adds.

Layla said...

Awww, look at that huge smile on Collin's face at the barber shop! He looks really happy. He looked so...removed.. for so long, and now he looks so alert and happy and in-the-moment. The difference seems to be Jon. His mother obviously drugged him into oblivion for so long, and now it's like he woke up. I hope this year will be a year of rebuilding his relationship with his dad and Hannah, and that he can transition out of his facility and back home soon. He'll be making the transition to high school next fall, and it would be great if he were home with a loving, supportive parent and sibling and making that transition into a local school and living in a home where he is accepted and encouraged when that happens.

Anonymous said...

WOW! Comparing the pics of Sweet Collin from his birthday to this weekend, what a difference. Tall, thin and bright eyed! You go Collin, Jon and Hannah. Keep up the GREAT work. Looking good.
Phreddie

Formerly Duped said...

'Collin is thriving at a the new facility' Is this an error or did Collin change facilities?

Sad but true said...

And there it is, in a nutshell:

“Collin is very intelligent. He was always questioning Kate and talking back,” a source close to Jon exclusively tells Us Weekly. “Kate doesn’t like that.”

I wonder if Collin really DOES have any of these "fluid diagnosis" issues K8 has so vaguely alluded to. Or, as the obvious whipping boy, if he just couldn't live with being under her heel anymore.

I hope TLC drops her like the hot---and festering---potato she has proved herself to be.

AuntieAnn said...

Layla said... 30

I hope this year will be a year of rebuilding his relationship with his dad and Hannah, and that he can transition out of his facility and back home soon

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I'll bet there is a much calmer atmosphere at Jon's, too. I don't know what the issues were at the konpound but just living with Kate would be very irritating on anyone's nerves. SHE has always been the person in that family with behavioral problems that have gone unchecked. I think she should have been shipped off to a facility long before any of the kids were.

capecodmama said...

Colin looks awesome in the barber shop pic. So happy. Thrilled for all of them and hope he's able to permanently transition home soon.

Anonymous said...

Colin’s shirt says it all “Just a kid from Reding”. He should have been allowed to just be a kid from the beginning. Instead he was pushed in front of cameras and paraded around in public even when it became clear that it was not in his best interest. Same goes for all the kids. It must be hard for Hannah. People still remember her saying that she soiled her underwear. That should have never been on television.

Andrea

Dmasy said...

Formerly Duped (28) -- there is a character named Shirley. That might be about as close as the story gets to the original. That and the title. Much is changed, but it is still interesting and different.

Sue said...

I wonder if Collin really DOES have any of these "fluid diagnosis" issues K8 has so vaguely alluded to. Or, as the obvious whipping boy, if he just couldn't live with being under her heel anymore.
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Just my opinion, but I think kate hit him one too many times and he finally hit back. She then drugged him out of his mind and when the state stepped in (Hannah did express concern about he was being treated) they placed him in a facility. Who knows what lies Kate told them but but if he talked to counselors about his treatment they would have kept Kate away from him because she was probably one of his triggers.

He looks good and he looks happy and I hope everything works out for him to be with Jon.

Sad but true said...

I think K8 might finally have a real dilemma on her hands. Does TLC have enough invested in her, and enough confidence she can still get eyeballs, with respect to K8+Whocares to help her out in this fight with Jon? Because the longer she's tied up in court, the less time she'll have to play at TV. She's got no income (as far as we know) at the moment, and that's got to be weighing on her.

OTOH, if TLC is not willing to help her with this, will she invest both the time and her own money needed to get Collin back? The kid she has so obviously had issues with for almost his whole life? The kid she most likely doesn't even want back?

I believe she wouldn't fight custody if not doing so didn't make her look so bad---not to mention, seriously undermine her "brand" and, by extension, any future she might have in television. Even worse, with TWO kids no longer under her roof and thumb, can a serious audit of their finances be far behind? Especially if Collin needs anything ongoing that insurance doesn't cover?

This will be very interesting to see play out.

So glad he will be with Hannah and John soon... said...

Sue 39... I agree with your idea about what happened. If Colin hit her back she would have exploded ! Hell hath no fury like kart attacked - she likely told some doc all kinds of lies to get him drugged. She alwahs laughed that she had been investigated by childrens services and I assume they actually placed him to protect him while they investigated. That would explain why she never visited - she may have been prohibited from seeing him......... no doubt, something big happened.

He looks so good off those drugs, clear eyed and alert. I also think the move to John's is imminent- they don't do prolonged transitions. I think the court has already decided and he is in the process of moving

Kart must be so angry.

Sandylove said...

RoxyHelen, sorry but for the record, because I am a huge fan of Michael Buble & followed his son's story when they announced his cancer, never released photos of their son during his treatment; they shut down their social media accounts. Which is the way it should be.

Layla said...

Sad but True (40)
I find it very hard to believe that TLC would help Kate pay for a custody battle. What would they get out of it? Kate can't handle Collin, Hannah is gone, and the twins are adults now so Kate can't sign them up for shows they don't want to do (or at least, that Cara doesn't want to do). Kate + 4 just won't cut it.

I do think you're right about her "brand". She doesn't want C back, but is afraid that letting Jon have custody will damage the "poor struggling mom of 8" persona. I seriously doubt that she has seen him since she sent him away. Keeping his whereabouts a secret from Jon was just sadistic. She would rather C stay at his school without ever seeing or hearing from his family, feeling alone and abandoned, than let Jon know where he was. How long did he go without anyone ever coming to see him? Was Jon's birthday visit his first outside contact in 2 years? Sadly, I think so.

I hope someone audits the kids' money. She has had the ability to help herself to it for a long time. Who knows if there is enough money left in their trusts to pay for their college? Not to mention, she already refinanced "their" house. How is that going to work? The house is owned by Kate and by the CWM trust (the kids' trust fund). But if Jon ends up with custody of two of the kids (so far!), what happens with their ownership in the house? Can she just cut them off since it's a revocable trust? I certainly hope not, but she is that vindictive--no question about that.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#40), I do think TFW will happily erase C from her household permanently without a second thought. If she's pressed to explain, I wouldn't be surprised if she concocts some story about C's doctors saying C needs a "male influence," and since she's single and alone (poke, dab!), going to his (formerly dead) father's was the ONLY way to get his release from the institution approved. Stay tuned.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Dmasy (#25), your sentimental reminisce about your husband's childhood made me think of C. So many missed moments with his family will undoubtedly cause damage to his psyche. So many holidays and birthdays that his siblings will joyfully reflect upon, while he's left out again and again. And to make things unestimably worse, he can go back and check the TLC film footage and TFW's callous social media posts to know that his absence was barely a blip on his mother's radar.

Layla said...

Let's say Collin goes to live with Jon--which is looking very likely. Hannah still has visitation with Kate. What about Collin? Will she even want to see him? How is he going to feel if his mother picks up Hannah for visits and leaves him behind? Kate would absolutely do that--because it's all about her--but it's time to set overwhelming self-interest aside and put her child first for a change. I don't know if that's possible for her though.

Layla said...

Daily Mail is covering Jon's custody filing, and included a clip of Kate's smirking interview where she says she has known all along where C is, and that she doesn't pay much attention to what Jon says (referring to Jon saying he'd take her to court to find out where C is). She was so nasty in that interview--she really believed this was a game and that Jon wouldn't dare fight her for the kids. Two years later, he has custody of one, will probably get custody of another, and who knows how many more will follow? I bet she never thought it was possible for this to happen.

The article mentions the dating show, but points out that TLC hasn't said a word about it since April, and also says that TLC has not renewed K+8 for another season.

Sad but true said...

Looks like the custody news is going wide.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6359325/Jon-Gosselin-files-custody-troubled-son-Collin-14-release-inpatient-center.html

Sad but true said...

LOL, the DM didn't hold back.

"The 43-year-old former RN was supposed to find love this fall in Kate Plus Date, but TLC hasn't mentioned her spin-off since April and it also hasn't renewed Kate Plus 8 for a seventh season."

Jamesvader1194 said...

Im glad that collin is seeing his dad however im curious about Alexis,considering she(like collin)was also the one that wasn't seeing jon as well.Both of them were the ones that got expelled due to behavior problems years ago.We know that jon sees(and hopefully still does)the other 2 boys and leah but we never know the reason why alexis doesn't and unlike collin,alexis so far hasn't been sent away,I just hope alexis doesn't go down the same path like the twins and shuns her father from her life but i don't know.

Sad but true said...

And yet another story:

https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/11/jon-gosselin-fighting-collin-out-treatment-christmas-kate-friend/

Jon is finally taking the fight to her. And good for him.

lurking said...

Mady has posted an instagram, tagging a makeup artist for doing her makeup. Makeup artist is from NYC. What's up with this? At first I thought she tagged a type of makeup and is trying to be an influencer but apparently she had her makeup done for some reason. Maybe the artist is on-site in Gosselinland for Kate plus Date

Formerly Duped said...

I agree, james. Alexis was in the pumpkin and back to school photos though. I also wonder why she doesn't get to visit her dad.

JR said...

Uh oh...Kate’s furious...heavens to Betsy...like no shit...the beautiful thing is she can’t do a thing about it...

And why does she think he posted those pictures just to spite her?? Ahhh the life of a narc

FlimsyFlamsy said...

JR (#54), to paraphrase the famous "Annie" song, it's the hard-narc life for TFW!

Sad but true said...

lurking said... 52

The make-up person lists Kate Gosselin among her clients on her resume. But no TLC or production companies listed. Maybe K8's gone to her privately? Wonder what happened to BFF Deanna.

Layla said...

Well, I'll be--that makeup artist lists People magazine as one of her clients. Coincidence? I think not!

Irishwhisper said...

blindgossip,com/not-your-normal-custody/

Maybe Gosselin related?

Lorrie said...

I wonder if this is Kate?
https://blindgossip.com/not-a-normal-custody-battle/
I can’t imagine Jon exposing Hannah to Collin if he truly is a threat to her. I smell a rat (and her name is Katie Irene).

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

In other custody news, Brad and Angelina have a trial date in December for their custody battle. Thank goodness it's in LA where judges are pretty good about not screwing over fathers just because the mothers hate them.

Anonymous said...

I am starting to think that Collin was sent to some kind of privately owned home for "troubled" youth. There are a few in this country where the parents can basically keep the kid there until they turn 18. There is no such thing as a fluid diagnosis when it comes to mental health. Kate was just spinning words when's she said it. This whole thing makes me angry.

Andrea

NJGal51 said...

I wonder if this is Kate?
https://blindgossip.com/not-a-normal-custody-battle/
I can’t imagine Jon exposing Hannah to Collin if he truly is a threat to her. I smell a rat (and her name is Katie Irene).
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In the pictures that Jon has posted Hannah doesn’t look like she’s afraid of Collin.....especially the most recent one where they’ve got their arms around each other. He body language doesn’t indicate that she’s trying to lean away from him either. They look happy and relaxed in each other’s company.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Mady has posted an instagram, tagging a makeup artist for doing her makeup. Makeup artist is from NYC. What's up with this? At first I thought she tagged a type of makeup and is trying to be an influencer but apparently she had her makeup done for some reason. Maybe the artist is on-site in Gosselinland for Kate plus Date

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They're in bed with People, it's so obvious. Coyne latched onto her for some reason, and I would bet a million bucks Kate herself is Coyne's source.

Anonymous said...

According to Radar: "Jon Gosselin Fighting To Get Son Collin Out Of Treatment By Christmas".

bm

ncgirl said...

Kate was the main guess for this blind item.

Apparently the brand and her thirst for fame and more air time trumped being a good parent or at least making an effort to even pretend you care. This former A+ list reality star is a horrible human being.

Susan1956 said...

ncgirl said... 65
Kate was the main guess for this blind item.

Apparently the brand and her thirst for fame and more air time trumped being a good parent or at least making an effort to even pretend you care. This former A+ list reality star is a horrible human being.
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How do you see the comments? I see the blind item, but not the comments.

AuntieAnn said...

Coyne latched onto her for some reason, and I would bet a million bucks Kate herself is Coyne's source.

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You'd be a rich woman. I have no doubt Kate spoonfeeds her stories whenever necessity dictates. Coyne's been slobbering over Schmoopy since 2007. Ugh.

ncgirl said...

"How do you see the comments? I see the blind item, but not the comments"

On the crazy days and nights site, there's a small comments link below the blind item.

Jamesvader1194 said...

@NJGal51 I personally love seeing that picture.Some people thought that Hannah and Collin didn't get along with each other because of that one episode of Collin calling Hannah ugly and Kate scolding him,but thinking about how Hannah did show concern for Collin and seeing the pictures of the two of them made me realize that the two do indeed love each other.

RoxyHelen said...

Sandylove, there was at least one picture posted by the mom on instagram. It just wasn't a detailed one, the kid's face wasn't even visible. They may have shut down the accounts at first but it wasn't for all the treatment. Also there were some updates. Discreet ones, like I said,they just subtly let people know the boy was doing better, which I think it's ok and not intrusive for the kid.

RoxyHelen said...

Those blind gossip posts (this one and the first one from years ago) seem to have come out exactly at the same time as news about Collin. I still think the whole site is not to be trusted.

Concerned Aussie said...

Mady is a very pretty girl, but I really hope she hasn't taken on her mother's nasty personality to the extent it's too late to change. She's still so young and has no idea that people in the real world aren't going to take it. The damage that woman has done to all these kids is unbelievable. Not just now, but it will effect all their future relationships. I hope some of it is reversable. I think Hannah and Collin being with Jon gives them so much hope for the future despite what poor Collin has been through.

Jbranck1980 said...

In other news, our favorite county clerk, Kim Davis AKA Jumper lost her race in Kentucky.

Lorrie said...

Susan1956 said... 66
How do you see the comments? I see the blind item, but not the comments.
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The way this particular site works, everyone comments, but the guesses aren’t available to view until the next day. At any rate, there are over 100 comments now, with the majority of them speculating this is about Jon & Kate. I’m a little surprised to read that a handful of comments are pro-Kate. I thought by now most everyone had her number.

Gigi Be said...

Radar has a new article up about Collin
“Jon & Kate Gosselin’s Son Collin ‘Can’t Wait’ To Come Home From Treatment, Friend Claims”


Jon Gosselin Instagram Live

“Jon and Kate Gosselin troubled son Collin has been living in a treatment center for more than two years, and now, the teen “can’t wait” to go home.”
“In an exclusive interview with Radar, Jon’s close friend and barber Eric Rodriguez said the 14-year-old was “a little down” when he mentioned the facility during a haircut last weekend.”
“When Collin was here, he got a little down when I asked him if he was excited to go back [to the facility]…He was bummed about going back. He just said to me, ‘I can’t wait for Thanksgiving break! And to come home,'” recalled Eric,The barber”.And when he arrives home — and possibly lives with dad Jon full time — Collin hopes to go to a local public high school with Hannah, who also lives with Jon after a nasty, years-long custod“I asked him if he was excited about going to regular school and he said, yeah he’s super excited about it,” Eric continued. “He just said he didn’t like his other school that he was in before that facility, the one that Kate had him in.”


But despite the teen’s troubled past, Eric described Collin as a “really nice kid — very respectful.”

“I can definitely tell that he can’t wait to come home,” Jon’s pal told Radar. “I don’t think he really likes the place.” “Let’s hope he gets out soon”





Layla said...

I hate that people are painting Collin as this violent, dangerous child. There's plenty of evidence that Kate is abusive, both physically and emotionally, and she forced the kids to take on huge financial burdens at a young age. Remember when they were 7 and she told them the show was cancelled, they immediately asked whether they would be able to stay in their house and their school. They knew they had to work in order to have those things. They were filmed while naked, while vomiting, while sick. She stripped away every shred of their privacy and sold it for money. I can't imagine Collin being dangerous or violent when he was so obviously doped up all the time. But he was the one who tried Kate's patience and who resisted her controlling ways the most. It's possible she got too rough with him and he hit back. She was horrible to him. But I think the real problem was that his doctors recommended that Collin not be filmed, and that was it for her. If he wasn't contributing to her hunger for fame and money, he was expendable. She won't admit that, so she lets people think he was dangerous.


I don't think that Jon would fight to bring Collin home if Hannah feared him. Jon had to fight hard to get custody of Hannah. He wouldn't jeopardize that and bring a violent child into their household. I think the two of them discussed the situation and agreed that they wanted to bring Collin home.

Formerly Duped said...

That's sad. Poor Collin who always seemed so eager to help and please others despite having whatever his disability or issues are.But it does sound promising that he will go to Jon's and soon.

Lorrie said...

I also tend to trust publications who name their "sources" (i.e., Jon's friend Eric) -- unlike PEOPLE, who relies on anonymous sources to do their dirty work for them and run their smear campaigns.

JR said...

Ummmmm is it me or does Mady look like a completely different person...I don’t remember looking anything like that...I mean it doesn’t even resemble her

RoxyHelen said...

Yeah Jon's friend giving an interview like that is not cool imo. Why would he do this? Did he ask Collin if he was ok with being quoted on a website? Collin had so many issues with the paps and now he can't talk to his dad's friend without it making it in the paper? I wonder if Jon gave his blessing for this thing. This just rubs me the wrong way.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I almost have to assume Jon's barber did this interview with full permission of Collin and Jon. You just don't give an interview that personal without getting the subject's permission ahead of time. Yeesh.

Although I don't fault him for this because some people just don't get it, but asking a kid in a facility if he is excited to go back there is a dumb thing to ask. I've worked with kids in facilities for near eleven years, nobody has ever been excited to go back, even if it's pleasant there. Kids want to be HOME, with a family, preferably their family.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

And honestly I think it's fine if Collin did give permission, by the way. For years he's had to endure Kate controlling his narrative. For once maybe the kid would like to say something for himself, and he deserves every bit of opportunity to do that.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



I hate that people are painting Collin as this violent, dangerous child. There's plenty of evidence that Kate is abusive, both physically and emotionally, and she forced the kids to take on huge financial burdens at a young age.

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I firmly believe that much of his issues are directly related to or at the very least escalated by environmental factors. In other words the bizarre life Kate created for him, both the cameras and the abuse. This is what we warned about for years, for YEARS. You cannot just put kids in this experiment of child abuse and exploitation and expect that they'll all just make it through like nothing happened. There's nothing to be smug about here over being exactly right about the consequences of all this, it's just sad.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


In other news, our favorite county clerk, Kim Davis AKA Jumper lost her race in Kentucky.

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Ha, good ole Kim Davis. Bye Felicia. I'll fondly remember that saga as the rare political issue where it looked like the entire blog was in agreement she is an idiot.

Sad but true said...

JR said... 79
Ummmmm is it me or does Mady look like a completely different person...I don’t remember looking anything like that...I mean it doesn’t even resemble her
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I think, like Mommy, Mady spends an awful lot of her time figuring out her best photo angles. The two photos we've seen of her in the past few months (one on K8's IG a few months back and the current one), she's tilting her head a certain direction in a practiced (i.e., not natural) way. She doesn't look at all the same full-face.

RoxyHelen said...

I think it's fine if Collin gave permission too but we don't know that and I'm confused by your immediate "oh of course he did " position.

Formerly Duped said...

JR said..

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I think so too. In fact she looked a bit like Kate for the first time!! But that photo is definitely filtered and possibly Photoshopped.

Sue said...

I think, like Mommy, Mady spends an awful lot of her time figuring out her best photo angles. The two photos we've seen of her in the past few months (one on K8's IG a few months back and the current one), she's tilting her head a certain direction in a practiced (i.e., not natural) way. She doesn't look at all the same full-face.
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It also looks like she's using one of the apps that erases skin imperfections in the photo or some type of filter. Also, she's got a lot of makeup on. If you look at her hairline you'll be able to see it. The latest photo isn't just a candid shot, it was worked on before it was posted. Take a look at the picture of her with the dog and her skin texture. You can also see that some type of filter is being used.

JR said...

Who here thinks this put Kate over the edge?? Collin being quoted? Could you imagine how he could spill the beans on her? Oh the humanity! She must be punching walls

Former Lurker said...

Hi everyone. I haven't commented in a while, just busy and bored with the K8 mess. Hope you all are doing well. I see Tucker's Mom is still missing, hope she's okay.

I'm so happy to see the photos that Jon posted on Instagram. Collin looks great and they all look happy. Hopefully, he'll be home with Jon and Hannah very soon.

Former Lurker said...

I just checked out that pic Mady posted on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bp2LdYGl9jt/

and I just have one thing to say about her posting that photo yesterday. My oldest also recently turned eighteen, as have most of his friends this year, and also some of my friends' kids and three of my nieces and nephews in the past year or so. One thing that was universal amongst all of them was that if they posted any pics to social media yesterday - Election Day, November 6, 2018 - is that they ALL proudly posted pics of their "I voted" stickers, or pics of them going to vote (for the very first time).

Yet, here we have Mady posting a selfie of her professional makeup job. Sadly, she reminds me of her shallow mother, in a lot of ways.

Also, if that makeup person works for People, is it likely that the makeup job was done for a People photo shoot? Will there be an upcoming People cover pimping the new TFW Plus Fake Date show?

Formerly Duped said...

Former Lurker said... 91
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Nice to see you posting! :)

I agree- it was a big day yesterday and there was a special voting snapchat thing for selfies. My daughter did that after voting and she watched the returns. I wonder if Kate or the girls voted.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Former Lurker (#91), nice to see you!

Layla said...

Admin(82)
This is Kate's biggest nightmare--she can't control the narrative without getting custody of the kid she doesn't want. If she doesn't fight hard--and probably even if she does--Collin will be out of the facility soon. He's not staying if he's well enough to be out. Of course she knows he's been quoted in that article, and realizes that if he's not with her, she can't shut him up or hide him away. So she has to fight Jon for custody. Collin will get older and more confident, and he will talk about his experiences. All she can hope to do is delay that for as long as possible. If Jon has custody, she can't. The truth will leak out a bit at a time, and there is nothing she can do about it. Jon and Collin could do interviews if they want, and what recourse does she have? It's not like she can claim that it's harmful for Collin to be in front of cameras when she herself forced him to film throughout his entire childhood. Her days of absolute control are over. What happens when a control freak suddenly loses all control? We're about to find out.

I'm so glad election day is over. My neighbor won. Yay! Funny, but when I looked at that makeup artist's IG account, she posted her "I Voted" sticker. So she didn't do Mady's makeup yesterday. She's from NY, so she'd have to be in NY to vote, not PA.

ncgirl said...

"The way this particular site works, everyone comments, but the guesses aren’t available to view until the next day"

The owner of the site does reveal who some of the blind items are about. If it's revealed, I'll post it here. I don't know if the blind items are true. I've read the site for years, and he had stuff on there before it was made public. Anyway, I've guessed wrong to bad reality mother blind items. Sometimes it's a Real Housewife.

Former Lurker said...

Formerly Duped said... 92

Former Lurker said... 91
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Nice to see you posting! :)

I agree- it was a big day yesterday and there was a special voting snapchat thing for selfies. My daughter did that after voting and she watched the returns. I wonder if Kate or the girls voted.

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Hi Formerly Duped, and thanks. I've been popping in and out, but haven't commented in a while.

Like you, I also wonder if TFW and the girls voted. It's a pretty big deal for most kids when they can vote for the first time, especially these days with social media and 24/7 political bombardment. I wonder if TFW even bothered to get them to register, which I think is something parents should definitely encourage. But, we're talking TFW here, so....

Former Lurker said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 93

Former Lurker (#91), nice to see you!


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Thanks, FlimsyFlamsy. :)

Hmm, it's fall, isn't it? Where is that TFW Plus Fake Date show?

Former Lurker said...

Now that I'm on my laptop and not my iPhpne and looked at that IG pic of the professional makeup job, I just have to make one more comment. This isn't a diss of Mady at all, but of the "pro". Sorry, but I think the eye makeup job is awful.

Layla said...

Isn't it interesting that so many online news sources are running the story about Jon filing for full custody of Collin--but not People. They reported on Collin's weekend visit, but not this. I don't think it's just an oversight. Have they even acknowledged the fact that Jon has custody of Hannah? All I can remember is a reference to the fact that she "stays" with him. And they are the ones who ran the story that Kate has full custody of all 8, although it's obvious that she does not. Time for Kate Coyne to pull her head out of the sand and deal with reality. Jon has custody of Hannah. Jon will soon have custody of Collin. And I feel very confident that more of the kids will follow. Kate will have an empty house and Coyne/People will still be pretending that the kids are just "spending time with" Jon.

NJGal51 said...

I have to agree Former Lurker @98, the eye makeup kind of makes it look like she got hit in the eye.

AuntieAnn said...

 She doesn't look at all the same full-face.

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I wouldn't have known it was Mady had it not been on her Instagram. There's nothing terribly outstanding about her looks. Personally I think Cara has a more natural smile and attractiveness of the twins and that's not to put Mady down, it's just my unsolicited opinion.

I think all eight of those kids, with varying degrees of difficulty, will struggle to find their individual identity. They were displayed as packs of two and six. TLC's pathetic attempt at producing each of their "special days" was a miserably scripted failure. They were episode fillers, nothing more.

Of all of them, I think Collin was the child who wanted most to let it be known that he was a distinct, unique person and his mother would have none of it. The rest is history.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Proud to say California (the biggest, therefore, with most representatives) went even more Democratic than it was before. The California GOP is breathing its last gasps, and good riddance.


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Yep, the Dems have been so good for CA haven't they? It's become a state so expensive to live in you have to move out or live with 11 people (look at the stats of people exiting, especially to cheaper states like Texas, it's astounding). Billions are going to be spent on a slow train to nowhere. Every time you gas up your car you pay a huge gas tax they passed (this year I bought full electric, because I was sick of that gas tax), businesses can't set up shop here unless they have a huge budget, which most don't, and God help you if you're a farmer, because you'll be literally left in the dust by that party.

You don't know what you're talking about.

On a positive note, CA voters did vote wisely on SOME of the propositions, so that wasn't a complete wash.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


"The way this particular site works, everyone comments, but the guesses aren’t available to view until the next day"

The owner of the site does reveal who some of the blind items are about. If it's revealed, I'll post it here. I don't know if the blind items are true. I've read the site for years, and he had stuff on there before it was made public. Anyway, I've guessed wrong to bad reality mother blind items. Sometimes it's a Real Housewife.

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I never understood that site, but I guess some people enjoy the game of it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



and I just have one thing to say about her posting that photo yesterday. My oldest also recently turned eighteen, as have most of his friends this year, and also some of my friends' kids and three of my nieces and nephews in the past year or so. One thing that was universal amongst all of them was that if they posted any pics to social media yesterday - Election Day, November 6, 2018 - is that they ALL proudly posted pics of their "I voted" stickers, or pics of them going to vote (for the very first time).

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I think the way Kate has raised these kids can only foster self absorbed kids. I mean just look at what we see of Kate. It's all so very shallow. No interest in the real world, little to no interest or curiosity in other people, places, or things. It all revolves around Kate, so why wouldn't it all revolve around a kid?

I think college will go one of two ways. An incredibly rude awakening for her, or a place where she can shed this shallow and unattractive personality and come into her own as a much more grounded, interesting, and well rounded young woman.

Because there's a real sweet, good kid in there, we saw that before Kate got to her.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#104), I tend to give M some extra slack when I remember how she consoled her little brother after the gum got on his lovey and TFW said it was going in the garbage.
It took courage for her to stand up to her mother at that tender age, but she instinctively did what was right. And, yes, I also hope that sweet child was not completely snuffed out by the steady diet of hate, anger and resentment her mother has exposed her to for more than a decade.

Formerly Duped said...

But I think Mady has hardened her heart judging from her comments on not liking the tups and even about her mother. She seems bossy,lazy and vain.The earlier sweet moments seem to be in the past as per the show

foxy said...

Golly Gee must be smiling down from heaven over the news about Colin. I wonder if Kate is looking for work at McDonalds to keep her in that McMansion.






















One of Eight said...

I'm sure it would look so good for TFW to be on a dating show running around the country with different men as Jon is shown working towards a home transition for their son. Nice timing TLC, nice timing.

Lorrie said...

108...
That's a really good point. I wonder if that's the reason TLC seems to be putting on the brakes with Kate's new show, at least for now. Further grounds (in Kate's mind) for her to be livid with Jon.

Layla said...

Jon is apparently hoping to have Collin home around the 18th of December. That must be a semester/holiday break for him. If Jon is hoping to get him home so soon, then the administrators and doctors working with Collin must believe he's ready to go home. So why is he still there? Why not have him go home at the beginning of the school year? It's not like his condition has changed to any great degree in the past couple months. I think it's because he didn't have a home to go to. Kate had custody, but didn't want him there. Jon is now fighting for custody so his son isn't confined to an institution until he's 18, just because his lazy, self-absorbed mother doesn't want to deal with him.

OT--I mentioned awhile back that DH and I are planning to buy a house in PA in the future. Our real estate agent sent me a "must see!" listing to check out. I opened the pictures, and it's Beth and Bob's old house in Leesport! It was shown in the first 4th of July episode, and again when they babysat some of the kids. That place is amazing. It is similar in square footage to Kate's house, but Kate's can't compare to this one. I always believed that Kate wanted Beth's lifestyle, but looking at the actual house, I have to say Kate failed. Beth and Bob sold their house for $1.9 million in 2008, and I think it tells us a lot that Kate was asking Jon, "How will we explain the $2M house?" at about the same time. I think this house is what she had in mind when she said that. (PS--I think there agent sent that listing to me by mistake. No way could we afford it!) It is now listed at $2.8M. Yikes.

Layla said...

In #110 above--I meant to say "the agent", not "there agent", of course!

Layla said...

One of Wight (108) and Lorrie (109)
I think TLC may be worried about what information could come out of the custody case. It would be pretty embarrassing for them if they are showing Kate "looking for love" while stories of her abuse of Collin are being made public. Even if there is a gag order in place, information will leak. TLC has had way too much "talent" unmasked as abusers in the last few years.

Formerly Duped said...

Didn't they do a photoshoot there too? Kate took a fit that Jon put the kids' clothing upstairs or something. That was beautiful home and property but I would be forever seeing the ghost of a row of potties for all to see and film in the driveway.

I hope you find a nice home, Layla!

Layla said...

Formerly Duped (113)
I do remember a line of potties in the driveway, but I'm not sure if they did a photo shoot at this house. It's been a long time since I saw any of those episodes. It really is a beautiful place, but still far out of our budget. The architectural details are stunning, and the wood floors are to die for. And the kitchen cabinetry--oh, my. This is a mansion. Kate's house is just a large house.

Formerly Duped said...

I agree about the house and grounds, Layla. The photo shoot I am thinking of was in autumn and the tups were paired with one of the opposite sex outside, very nice pictures. But I may be wrong that it was at Beth's. I loved her house too, and how graciously she hosted the Gs at it

JoyinVirginia said...

Hi all! Stopping in to say hello! admin, so happy to see this post and the terrific photo! my wish for all of the children is that they have a happy, healthy, private life.
we are busy with grandbabies here, having lots of fun and adventures.
the former mrs Jon Gosselin is still boring, and will slide into oblivion at People. readers prefer to see stories about the adorable royal children, or Chip and Joanna Gaines adorable baby and cute children, or the sexiest men alive!

Irish 33 said...

what happened to that idiot dating show ??? the fall would be Sept. when most shows come out....maybe TLC has come to there senses bbecause seriously who in there right mind would watch that phoney garbage

Layla said...

TLC has its schedule through Nov 23 posted, but no Kate Plus Date.They were already filming in May--6 months ago. I wonder what's taking so long.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Irish 33 (#117), I think you've stumbled upon a title for TLC if this series ever sees the light of day: "That Idiot Dating Show!"

jolie Jacquelyn said...


I'm just watching the news & am horrified seeing the devastation in California.

I just hope the fires haven't affected any of the posters here or their loved ones.



Jamesvader1194 said...

@Layla(112)Honestly,to this day it baffles me how Kate has gotten away with all this abuse and there was no major boycott of the show unlike the duggars.Even though TLC brought them back without Josh and came up with the excuse that the parents had nothing to do with it.With Kate,everyone kept using the excuse that she spanked her kids and to some people thats not abuse even though she did more then that.But there was no major boycott of her show as far as i know.Its a good thing her show is such a snore fest and all the yelling and screaming from the kids gave some people a headache because i think if her show was both entertaining and at least had charm to it like the little couple,she'd at least have a show again.

capecodmama said...

JoyinVirginia...so good to see your post. Aren't grand babies the best! Chip and Joanna Gaines announced on Jimmy Fallon's show that they are getting their own network through Discovery. Just like Oprah. And then there's Kate. Still trying to get a date.

Kylie said...

Admin, I was just reading about the fires in your area and hoping you are safe. What a tragedy for so many people.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I’m fine, I’m not even in the state at the moment. Found our two of my coworkers, who are married, lost their house. Lots of friends evacuated but no other bad news yet. It’s horrific.

Layla said...

Jamesvader1194 (121)
It's hard to believe that TLC seems to care so little about the well-being of the G kids. Or maybe they aren't afraid of backlash. Kate has been photographed smacking the kids around and her fans don't seem to care. Same for all the stories of abuse that have been reported. They think that because she has 8 kids, it's okay to abuse them to keep them in line. Even if the kids speak out someday, their words will be dismissed because there are 8. The number of kids excuses any mistreatment by their mother--at least according to Kate's fans.

There is no boycott of her show, but people are bored with the Gosselins and have been for a long time. That's the killer--you can make fans mad and they'll come back, but if you bore them, they won't. The ratings steadily dropped after the show came back, and none of the episodes in the last couple years of it ever broke 1M viewers. Now TLC is going to have a show with just Kate, and they think that's less boring than Kate and all the kids? Lots of people watched because they loved the kids. There won't be any big draw to watch a middle-aged, divorced harpy try to land a middle-aged, divorced (most likely) man. Bo-ring! But it's going to be so much fun for us to laugh at the ratings when they come in.

Anonymous said...

I hope Collin was able to visit Jon’s again this weekend. More visits home will help with his transition to home. I love the sound of Collin being in a loving home. He deserves a normal life in a loveing home.

Andrea

Ingrid said...

I think there are going to be many people watching for the trainwreck dates or to laugh at her lack of acting skills and fake interest in the fake dates. Maybe not a huge amount of viewers but it will be more than the few sheeple she has left.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Ingrid (#126), TLC might be smart to actually market the dating show as a silly, light-hearted experiment rather than a serious pursuit of romance. If they played it for laughs, it might have a better chance of succeeding.

Last weekend was another Duggar wedding (John David). I don't know where TLC sent the happy couple for their honeymoon, but that's just less money for Schmoopy's show. By the time they finish funding the Duggar weddings, TLC will be sending K8 and her D8 to 7-11 for Big Gulps and beef jerky.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Well I was hoping today would bring an end to the bad news but only woke up to find out more friends have evacuated, and two church friends lost their homes. One of the homes I used to hang out at a lot during college, a safe place to fall. So terrible, they are the most wonderful people.

Anonymous said...

Admin I'm glad you're safe. The devastation is shocking
and horrifying.

M.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Administrative (#129), so sorry to hear about your friends' losses. What a horrible situation.

Anonymous said...

My heart goes out to your friends Admin and to all others that have lost so much. I hope the weather improves so the firefighters can contain all of the fires in California.

Andrea

Layla said...

Flimsy Flamsy (131)

Silly? Light-hearted? This is a Kate show. It will be an unending stream of shrieks and freak-outs. She can't do anything else. I think after people watch one episode (those who are willing to watch, that is) they will get sick of it really fast.

Admin,
I'm so sorry to hear of your friends' losses. These fired are just devastating to hear about--I can't imagine living through them. I'm praying they contained quickly!

Layla said...

I checked the TLC schedule of upcoming shows to see if there is any sign of Kate Plus Date. The shows scheduled through Nov 27 are there, but no sign of it. But--Counting On is on the schedule for Nov 27th (don't know if it's a new season or just a special) with John David's wedding. His wedding was 11 days ago! They move fast, don't they? Which makes me wonder why Kate's show is taking so long. She first posted the photo of herself and Jamie on a plane (and said it was so much fun "working: with Jamie) in May. 6 months later, no sign of the show. TLC isn't mentioning it. It's not listed on Figure 8 Films as one of their shows. No updates, no sightings of filming since August. Nobody mentions it except Kate, who said recently on IG, "Having so much fun with it!"--which makes it sound like they're still filming. Oh, and Kate's pals at People. Otherwise, you'd think it wasn't a "thing".

Thjngs we know said...

Things we know: something happened to Milo, and kart won't ever see that shitshow dating farce on the air.

I wish I could say that I know Jon will get Collin, but the witch is going to fight that tooth and nail. Jon's only saving grace is that the docs have probably decided already that Jon's is the best place for him and that is why we are seeing transition visits occurring. Collin seemed to have dropped a hint when he said he "couldn't wait to go home" for Thanksgiving, meaning Jon's. I think they already know the docs chose Jon and most likely the judge will agree with the docs.

I have no doubt that while he was at the facility, he spilled his gut about what kind of mother kart is. They know all about how she abused him and the others. I think kart thought she could claim he hit me and he would be punished. Probably did not think he would be believed when he told what that house was like... stupid move, kart.... yes, stupid move.

Wowser said...

Does anyone wonder if the reason TFW’s bogus dating show will never be aired is because the men they got to do the show dropped out of it? I seriously cannot think of one male that would even be able to fake it and look even remotely authentic unless they were paid actors. Even st tony couldn’t stand next to her in an interview with Dwts without walking out on her in the middle of it. Just sayin....most men prefer their balls in tact.

NJGal51 said...

Someone said that Cara posted a picture in IG of either a garage sale or a yard sale and that purse boy was clearly in the picture. Who is going to believe that TFW is going on dates and “looking for love” if he’s still around after all this time. Cara’s IG is private do I haven’t seen the picture. I, like others, wonder if TLC filmed this because the contract with TFW called for a certain number of episodes and Kate Plus 6 just doesn’t have the same ring as +8.

Layla said...

I think the Collin situation has thrown a wrench in the dating show thing. Kate (and TLC) thought Collin was hidden away and silenced for a few years, and then Jon screwed everything up by filing for custody. Now there's going to court hearings, details may leak, Collin is out talking to people. They have no idea what kind of ugliness may end up being revealed, or how the public will react--especially if Jon gets custody. Kate will fight Jon, but she won't be fighting to bring Collin home to her house. She will be fighting to keep him in that facility. She does not want him out and talking. She does not want to deal with pictures of Jon, Hannah, and Collin looking like a happy family. So she will fight to lock Collin away for as long as she can. And I bet she's enraged at having to spend money fighting for a child she doesn't want.

It does sound like Collin is going home with Jon for Thanksgiving. I hope he has a wonderful time and that there is extended family there to welcome him.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Wowser (#136), and yet reality TV has proven that there are people out there who will do anything to get their mugs on screen. The chance to be famous has a powerful allure to other narcissists. But I don't think a quality man would be caught dead inviting a camera crew along as he woos a woman he's sincerely trying to have a relationship with.

So maybe TLC filmed a few dates with TFW and whoever they could scare up from central casting. Then they looked at the footage, tried to edit it into something decent, and realized they couldn't make a silk purse out of a heifer's ear.

Susan1956 said...

FlimsyFlamsy (139)

So maybe TLC filmed a few dates with TFW and whoever they could scare up from central casting. Then they looked at the footage, tried to edit it into something decent, and realized they couldn't make a silk purse out of a heifer's ear.
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Flimsy--I think you could be onto something. Maybe the footage TLC has didn't do well with test audiences and TFMJG's comment about "having fun with it" is just KateSpeak for her reminiscing about her last free plane ride and paid time away from the kids, courtesy of TLC.
Add in Collin's reunification with Jon and the last thing on TLC's mind is finding a place for whatever Date-A-Shrew footage they have on their schedule.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Susan1956 (#140), C connecting with his dad may very well have put an end to TLC's desire to continue with the dating show.

It was one thing for TFW's "brand" to survive C being sent away. Somehow she managed to poke-and-dab her way through that crisis and still come out looking like a struggling single mom just doing her best. But if that little boy is now a teenager, and either chooses to, or was ordered to, live with his dad instead of her, TLC may just not want to be bothered with the blowback.

But what do I know? If she hasn't been flushed yet, perhaps she never will be.

Ingrid said...

I love this!! Date-A-Shrew LOL

Layla said...

Flimsy Flamsy (141)

Kate got away with sending Collin away--to an extent. Viewers didn't just move on and forget him, they way she and TLC would have liked. There were always questions. Viewers still said they missed him. And, most importantly, ratings went down. The last Gosselin episode to get over 1M was in January of 2016, almost 3 years ago. And now everyone knows that Hannah not only left, she left of her own free will. She fought to get away. And the court sided with Jon, the guy Kate has painted as a deadbeat loser for the better part of a decade. If he's such a loser, then why did he fight for Hannah? And why did the court award him custody? A poke-and-dab interview isn't going to cover that one up. This isn't a temporary thing. Hannah has been with her dad for the better part of a year, and hasn't come running back to her mother. Now Collin will be there too. No more struggling mom of 8.


I wonder how people will react when Collin is home with Jon. There will be pictures. People will talk. Inside information will come out. And I bet it won't be flattering to Kate. People will realize that Collin wouldn't be released by his facility unless his doctors and teachers agree he's ready to go. If he's ready to go, then why hasn't Kate brought him home? Only one reason for that. She doesn't want him. If he were a danger to anyone (as has been speculated), he wouldn't be released at all. So it's just her refusal to take care of her child that is keeping him there.

I wonder how Collin is feeling right now. Kate kept him from Jon for so long. Goodness knows what she told him to keep him with her. But now the person who is there for him is Jon. He has to be relieved and happy that someone wants him, but it must be confusing to realize that the mother who manipulated him to keep him with her doesn't want him. He has to be so confused, and he's going to need ingoing therapy to help him come to terms with his situation. My heart goes out to him.


Kate makes sure that there are pictures posted (by Mady, hah!) whenever Hannah visits. Once Collin gets out, will he be in those pictures? Somehow I doubt it.

Anonymous said...

Kate is digging at the bottom of the media barrel. Two gossip sites that I have never heard of posted stories about Kate and her dating show. TLC has yet to release a premier date so I think Kate is just trying to get attention.

In other news, Collin will be home for Thanksgiving in less than a week!!!!!

Andrea

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Flimsyflamsy Not sure if i said this but i hope this the last straw from TLC and they will stop filming Kate plus 8 all together.They are pretty just beating,no slaughtering a dead horse at this point.Its not like Kate brings in any viewers anymore at this point,so why they'd grasp on to this show would be so bizarre at this point.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Jamesvader1194 (#45), I don't think it ever occurred to TFW that TLC was just as transactional as she was. They held on to her as long as they needed her, and have shoved her into mothballs until they think she'll make them money again. But at the moment, in Katespeak, she doesn't know how to help them.

When is the big day? said...

So is Collin going to live with Jon and Hannah at Thanksgiving? That would be a sweet move for him....I don't know why they would make him stay a day longer than necessary at that facility.....

capecodmama said...

So...for sh$ts and giggles I went to TLC's website and typed in Kate Plus Date in their search space. I laughed when it came back "no results". Not enough a blurb saying it's coming soon. So long Katie Irene!

Formerly Duped said...

When is the big day? said... 147
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I understood that Collin would celebrate TG at Jon's but not be released from the facility till December. Who really knows, but let's hope!!

Layla said...

When Is The Big Day (147)

Apparently Collin will be with Jon for Thanksgiving, but he won't be there to stay until the court decides on custody. Jon is reportedly hoping to have him home for good on December 18th. I'm guessing that's when the fall semester ends at Collin's facility. That would be a good time to transition out, and then spend the holidays at home and start at a local school for the spring. Let's hope it works out that way, for Collin's sake!

capecodmama (148)

TLC's schedule is posted through December 1st. No sign of Kate Plus Date. No mention of the show since they first announced it in April. No updates, no promotion. Figure 8 Films doesn't have it listed as one of their shows (although they still have K+8 listed).

Layla said...

Interesting--following up on capecodmama's comment (148),I typed "Kate Plus Date" into TLCgo, and nothing turned up. There was an article about the upcoming Dr. Foot Fixer show, an article from March about Sister Wives returning, but nothing about Kate's show. Maybe they're just waiting until they have an empty spot in the airing schedule with nothing to fill it. Kate's been a fill-in for a long time. But they're showing an awful lot of reruns lately. Certainly they could air Kate's show instead. Kind of seems like they just don't want to.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Layla (#151), so there's room for pimple poppers and foot fixers, but none for a shrieking shrew!

NJGal51 said...

The only confirmation that we have on TFW filming anything at all is for the escape room date. The other stuff is just TFW and Jamie on a plane and TFW saying that she’s filming.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

NJGal51 (#153), I still say her date escaped not only from the escape room but from his hand-flapping partner. Perhaps from there he tracked down Vann the Mann and Joe Millionaire and they formed a support group.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I heardJeremy and Audrey Roloff launched their own podcast. I read a rundown, and apparently Jeremy said something like his faith was telling him not to do his family's reality show anymore. Oh, but he and Audrey are open to doing their OWN show! The hypocrisy boggles the mind.

Wowser said...

I think her show bottomed out before it was even done filming. Think back on her date with Van. Boring as hell and no chemistry. There’s no way they could generate interest in a harpy with enough men to carry off a season ...i think it’s DOA.

Anonymous said...

I'm afraid Kate's ridiculous fake date show is coming in early winter. TLC does change premier dates. History tells us she does keep showing up. Even after her show was canceled in 2011...she came back. I just don't understand why.

M

capecodmama said...

FlimsyFlamsy 154...Imagine being a fly on the wall for that conversation.

jolie Jacquelyn said...

I kind of hope they do have her dating show in their lineup, as long as the kids aren't involved. She'd make a fool of herself & we'd have fun picking it apart the next day.


Layla said...

FlimsyFlamsy (152)

Shrieking shrew--Good one!

NJGal51 (153)

You're right--they were apparently filming in May and again in August, but nothing more about it, and no more sightings. Could be an overall lack of interest in her--nobody notices/cares about seeing her. That sounds likely to me--years ago she couldn't go anywhere without being noticed. Now it's more like--meh, Kate who?

Sue said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 155

I heardJeremy and Audrey Roloff launched their own podcast. I read a rundown, and apparently Jeremy said something like his faith was telling him not to do his family's reality show anymore. Oh, but he and Audrey are open to doing their OWN show! The hypocrisy boggles the mind.

My guess is that it's sour grapes because Zach and his wife and baby were getting all of the media attention - especially since Zach's baby inherited his dwarfism (and he's a little cutie).

Former Lurker said...

Sorry, as much fun as it might be to see her ratings crash, I absolutely do not want to see the Fake Date with Khate show ever air. It must be killing her to be off TV for so long. I'd like to keep it that way just so she finally fades into total irrelevance. She's pretty much there right now, but a new show would bring her the attention she so desperately craves.

I wonder if TLC would answer if a "fan" emailed them to ask when the new show, (announced last April), will premiere.

ncgirl said...

We've kept up with Dancing with the Stars since shopping Kart was on it. The latest winner is a very popular DJ who was the worst dancer of the finalists. If Kate had had more fans, she would've won.

Anonymous said...


My guess is that it's sour grapes because Zach and his wife and baby were getting all of the media attention - especially since Zach's baby inherited his dwarfism (and he's a little cutie).
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It’s hard to relate to two hipsters who think they have the answers to everything including how to keep from divorce.

Andrea

Sue said...

Looks like Jamie is spending Thanksgiving with Kate (picture posted of 3 of the kids on her IG). It’s nice that she can spend it with friends since she just lost her husband but wat about her family....

Lorrie said...

Just heard Instagram is attempting to purge all fake followers, bots, etc from members’ accounts. It’ll be interesting to see how this affects Kate’s numbers.

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