Tuesday, December 4, 2018

Breaking news: Jon awarded custody of Collin

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LisaNH said...

Hi! It's been a few years since I posted, but when I saw the news about Collin and Jon I was thrilled. It's typical that Kate couldn't be bothered to show up for court. Out of sight out of mind. So now she probably considers herself a single parent of 6 children, not 8 anymore.

Lorrie said...

Thank God!!!! I’ve kept Collin in my prayers all week. I am so beyond thrilled for Collin, Jon and Hannah. Finally, Collin will be given the chance at some sort of normalcy. I’m sure he can’t wait to leave behind the last three years of his life.

JTN said...

It's been a long time since I've posted, but I do still occasionally lurk. I'm very happy about the news since it seems as if it is what both Jon and his son want. However, it is very concerning she (or her lawyer) did not appear in court. My heart breaks for Collin in that regard because the signal is that he was not worth her time. If she was okay with the custody change (which I doubt), it would have been good to go there and give you blessing. It also signals to the other children that they are equally disposable.

JR said...

I bet she would have showed if they were fighting over custody of the dog!

Meagler said...

I haven't posted for so long as not much had been happening in Gosselin land but when I heard about Hannah earlier and in year and now Collin, I startes to keep an eye out.
I had to come here to say yay!!!!! This is so wonderful! Happy for Collin Hannah and Jon, but sad also as it speaks so loudly when your own mother can not be bothered to go to court.
The only acceptable reason would be hospitalization or major storm..

You suck Kate!
Wonder how this has the other 6 plus 2 feeling. Or what kind of poison she has fed them about this situation?

Layla said...

Kate didn't show up--why am I not surprised? She can't make Collin work and support her, so he is of no use to her now. She sure did fight for Hannah, and even tried to appeal the judge's decision to award Jon custody of Hannah. Too bad she didn't bother to show up for C. Thank God C has a father who loves him and wants to give him a loving home. That's 2 kids with Jon--so far! I'm betting there will be more in the future.


I am a bit surprised that Kate didn't at least make an effort to keep up appearances. Being a mom of 8 is her brand. It's her excuse for all of her bad behavior. The twins will be leaving for college in the fall. How can she complain about all her stress and exhaustion when there's only 4 (or fewer!) kids left at home? What will she blame her bad behavior on then? She's never taken responsibility for her own behavior. I don't think she knows how.

The article I read showed the smirking video of Kate saying she doesn't pay attention to Jon when he says he'll take her to court, and that she's known all along where C is. She was so smug and so nasty there. Just desserts, I say. Way to go Jon, Collin, and Hannah!

Layla said...

I wonder if People will cover the custody story. Somehow I don't think they will mention it.

Anyone want to make a guess how long it will be before Kate posts another dog photo on IG? Pretending nothing happened and everything is going according to plan in Gosselin-land. For that matter--how long will it be before TLC dares to air the dating show--Kate, who doesn't even care enough about her son to show up in court to fight for custody, traipsing around 'looking for love". She had a child who loved her. Collin tried so hard to earn her approval and she brutally rebuffed him, mocked him, and then sent him away. We now know that she never intended to let him come home. When she banished him, it was forever. Go ahead and air that dating show, TLC. I dare you.

Sandylove said...

Admin, why does it say he won temporary custody and not permanent custody? And I agree with everyone else, it is disgusting that Kate couldn't bother to show up. I can't wait to see how her fans defend her on this one.

JR said...

A lot of hate towards Kate on her instagram....there’s the usual diehards but mostly disgust for her because of her being a no show.. I’m actually still a little stunned

NJGal51 said...

From the article: "Jon Gosselin appeared in court on Tuesday, December 4, for a hearing regarding the custody of his 14-year-old son Collin. His ex-wife, Kate Gosselin, and her lawyer did not show up.
“Jon won sole physical and sole legal custody of Collin,” a source tells Us Weekly exclusively. “All other matters were moved to a future court date.”
Kate had asked a day earlier for the hearing to be postponed, but her request was not granted."

I guess TFW's lawyer didn't tell her that if the request to postpone is not granted that means you have to show up to court or suffer the consequences. Oh, wait, her lawyer didn't show up either. WTF!! How long until TFW posts yet another picture of NookiePookie.

I am so happy for Collin, Hannah and Jon! I hope that at the very least the other tups will visit with Jon over the Christmas holidays.



Bluebird said...

Well this news made my day. Finally Collin will be in a loving home with Jon and Hannah. Kate not showing up for the court appearance is no surprise, she doesn't give a s--- about her kids, if there not making money, to her they are worthless. I wonder how long it will take for the others to realize this and also want to be moving in with Jon.

Mom2two said...

I brt she wanted to postpone as she was trying to find lies about how Jon was unfit. Didnt she make stuff up before? Maybe her lawyer quit?

Anonymous said...

Kate is use to having things go her way. I bet she will be appealing the temporary custody order. Perhaps she will file it before it in time to appeal the decision. Knowing Kate, she thinks she is above the legal process.

Andrea

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Even if you can’t take your son or don’t want to take your son the least you can do is show up to the hearing. This means not only is she OK with not wanting her own son but she’s fine with *him* knowing she doesn’t want him. That’s what’s evil.

NJGal51 said...

Here's an interesting comment from the ROL story:

"It's possible that doctor's have cleared Collin for release soon. Kate knew she was either going to have to take him, swallow her pride and sign custody over to Jon today or be a no-show so she can cry how her child was stolen from her."

That does have a ring of truth to it and it sounds like something TFW would do.

Layla said...

NJGal51 said...

I guess TFW's lawyer didn't tell her that if the request to postpone is not granted that means you have to show up to court or suffer the consequences.

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But...no never means no to Kate, remember? I guess that includes judges who tell her no.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

So nice to see some posters who have been gone for a while. I hope more will check in!

I was just remembering when the G boys went golfing with their dad. Before they left, C asked his mom if she'd miss him when he was away. She was busy doing something with H, but gave him a half-hearted "yes." And he said, "Then I'll miss you, too!" That poor sweet boy.

Patsy said...

I am absolutely NOT surprised that Kate didn't even show up in court. She doesn't want him she just didn't want Jon to have him & wanted him holed away forgotten. She was absolutely told that there is no way she would get him & that she could not stop him being released from his facility so ... she does what she has done in the past -- the situation doesn't exist for her, next.

I believe that her real issue now is the financial aspect of it all. Not just an accounting of the money (for both of them) but perhaps some support of them now that Jon has physical custody. Money is the only thing that speaks for her now.

Anonymous said...

Hey all it's Hoosier Girl! So happy to hear this news.
Someone posted under the article on Dlisted and it read something like 'had Kate shown up, Jon could have pulled out C's treatment records and it's hard telling what they say about Kate' IMO If that's true, that's why she was a no show.

Layla said...

The custody story is trending all over the net. That makes me happy. If Kate thought nobody would notice, she was wrong. Everyone knows what she did. Still, I doubt that she realizes, even now, that it's the kids people love, not her.

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Layla Honestly this 100% confirms that Kate plus 8 is done.If TLC still wanted her,she'd try to get Collin back but the fact that she didn't even show up confirms to me that TLC either told her that Kate plus 8 is over,or she knows its over.I dont think even a growing up gosselin show will work because at least with the duggars(not trying to defend them.)you could just get rid of Josh.In kate's case,who'd want to watch with potentially 3 kids(hannah,collin and possibly cara.)missing?The only thing on that show would be mady and Kate fighting and the 4 remaining tups with 2 missing.Is the kate date evening going to be a thing?That hasn't been anything,no sighting,no posts about it by kate,no announces by TLC.Sheesh her twitter TL is even dead.It seems both haters and loyal fans are gone and are not saying anything about this.

Patsy said...

Jon's next mission IMO (if he wishes to accept it!) is to demand, legally if necessary, that Alexis be included in his visits. She, just like Collin, verbally spoke out against Kate and was/still is? medicated to resolve this issue. He needs to reconnect with her to see if she's OK or in the same dire situation Collin found himself in. The other three of course should also continue to visit him.

Formerly Duped said...

Sadly I think Collin has Kate's number and that's part of why he was sent away or why he maybe displayed anger issues.Didn't he "tell on her" at the facility- or was he in a few different ones- about her treatment of him? He knows Jon loves him unconditionally.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Hmmm...TFW claims Jon is "mediocre," yet he was clearly deemed the more more capable parent. So what does that make her?

JustMissy said...

JR said... 4
Her love for that dog is as fake and hollow as her love is for Collin. NookiePookie is a photo op only and nothing more. Kate is not a dog person, no matter how hard she tries, and there is nothing wrong with that but quit trying to act like you are. She better shut her Instagram account down because she is going to be bombarded with questions about Collin and the missed court date with every post. She is a vile human being!

Sad but true said...

Patsy said... 18

I believe that her real issue now is the financial aspect of it all. Not just an accounting of the money (for both of them) but perhaps some support of them now that Jon has physical custody. Money is the only thing that speaks for her now.
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Yes, I agree completely. I wonder if these are the "other matters" that have been put off to a later date.

I'm kind of surprised she hasn't turned off the comments on her IG. Maybe she doesn't know how. :)

Anonymous said...

From Dmasy --

I took the time to read all the comments attached to the two Radaronline articles.

Wow.

Any mom who could read and absorb all those negative remarks and not care would have to be evil, warped, or a mixture of both.

She should heed those opinions and do some very serious reflecting upon her life and reputation and her treatment of her children.

I hope the professionals helping Collin are able to make him see that her behaviors are not his fault.

She is simply an un-natural mother.

Creole said...

Hi all,

Just found this site last month and came at the right time. Happy doesn't begin to express how I feel about this news update. Good for Collin, Hannah, and Jon and kudos to his support system and for never giving up.

I wish I had talked to GollyGee (rest her soul), but I'll bet she's shedding tears of joy. She and many posters on this blog, showed more love and concern for Collin than his own biological mother.

All Collin ever did was be himself. He's sweet, creative, and very intelligent. I hope and pray that he'll be able to put this ordeal behind him and thrive in his new environment. Talk about the best Christmas present!

Anonymous said...

I think she wanted to delay it in hopes of draining Jon’s bank account so he could not afford the court battle. She may have also wanted to delay it to keep Collin in a facility and out of the public eye for another semester. It will be a PR nightmare for her if people see that Collin is a happy well adjusted kid.

Andrea

handinhand said...

Kate not showing up had everything to do with what she thought was best for her & nothing to do with what's best for Collin, as per usual. The more things change the more they stay the same. Zero learning curve with that woman, children be damned. Another occasional poster checking in & joining today's celebratory good news.

westcoastie said...

Best. News. Ever.
Suck it TFMJG.

AuntieAnn said...

Dmasy said

She should heed those opinions and do some very serious reflecting upon her life and reputation and her treatment of her children.

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Oddly and ironically enough, that's exactly what Nadya Suleman has done. She admitted her not-so-smart choices of the past, stepped out of the spotlight and concentrated on raising her 14 kids as a family as best she is able.

I'd like to see her appear on Dr. Pill now, giving her advice to Kate. It's not gonna happen of course, but my oh my how the tables have turned.

Nadya has an autistic son, btw, who is still being cared for in her home.

capecodmama said...

This. Is. Awesome. (Doing Colin's happy dance. The one he did after Kate's tirade with regard to the dresser knob.)

Layla said...

Creole (27)
Welcome! So glad you're here! You found us just at the right time, now that things are finally working in the kids' favor. Jon had gotten custody of two in the last year, and there will probably be more to follow.

Andrea (28)
I think her own finances might play into this, too. If she showed up in court, she'd have lawyer's fees, court costs, etc to pay. I don't think Collin is worth it to her. She has to know by now that her future in reality tv is over. K+8 is done, and IF her dating show ever airs, it will be a one-off thing. Of course, TLC will have to pay her for the episodes she has already filmed, whether they are aired or not. But that's it for her big tv paychecks. Either she has enough money to last her for the rest of her life, or she will have to go back to a mediocre life. If that's the case, then she'll be trying to cut out any unnecessary costs. She'll skip court for the kid she doesn't want, but still spend on her lawsuit against Jon because she's hoping to get some money out of that. I am hoping there will be some accounting of Hannah and Collin's trusts. Kate has had full control of those for a long time. I seriously doubt that she could resist dipping into them whenever she wanted something. And she's only worked for 3 years since the fall of 2011. I'm sure the kids have been paying for a lot in that time.

Anonymous said...

Jon has shown true class by not posting anything on Instagram. Hannah was lucky that the media did not hear about her custody case until after it was over. I don’t think the media saw that one coming.

Andrea

Creole said...

Layla (33)

Thanks for the warm welcome Layla! Glad to be here.

Yup. Hoping for more of the 'tups & the twins to spend more time with their father, hopefully on a more permanent basis.

kHATE should have remembered that old proverb about "pride going before a fall."

Sad but true said...

Admin, is the court able to levy any sanctions against K8 and/or her lawyer(s) for not showing up? When she tried yesterday (according to the reports) to have today's hearing changed, does that represent adequate notice?

Sideline Observer said...

Didn't one of TFW's lawyers once show up at the wrong courthouse? Maybe that's why TFW was a no-show today. If it involves consulting a map, it's beyond her.

jolie Jacquelyn said...

Hi Creole, welcome to our blog that has followed the Gosselin saga from the beginning.

I remember at some point telling friends & relatives who were watching the show that I was beginning to get a bad feeling about Kate & the way she was handling her kids. I was told that I was imagining things and over reacting. I'm sorry to say I was right all along.

I think most of their followers, my friends & relatives included, have moved on over the years.

Even though he wasn't perfect ( & what parent is), he was the one parent who showed love & compassion for the kids.

Now, who will be next to fly the coop??

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Creole (#27), welcome, and I hope you'll stay with us. And more old posters...it feels like a party! Handinhand (#29), I think I've mentioned that you always make me think of an old Elvis Costello song of the same name.

Sideline Observer (#37), ha, I'd forgotten all about the lost lawyer!
Yeah, maybe TFW accidentally wound up at the spa, and decided to stay.
Oh, that can't be right -- she said you'll never see her unless you're at the grocery store or in her kitchen.

It will be a rough night at Kate's tonight said...

Bet you a dollar she tries to contest or appeal this because she was sick or had car trouble or a sick kid she had to stay home and nurse on the laundry room floor or had incompetent lawyer... or add any ridiculous reason here..... we will hear from her again. I don't worry about any self harm because she loves herself too much, but I worry about those kids left at home. She is going to be screaming drunk tonight.....

Maybe purseboy will keep things safe and calm...... I know, fat chance right?!

Anonymous said...

Sad But True,

I do t think Kate cares. She was in contempt of court for not telling Jon where Collin was. She probably preferred to pay court fines instead of letting Jon see his son.

Andrea

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I do t think Kate cares. She was in contempt of court for not telling Jon where Collin was. She probably preferred to pay court fines instead of letting Jon see his son.

Andrea

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Her sad attempts to delay this case I also think are all about trying to screw over Jon. It doesn't occur to her maybe it would be best for the boy that he gets a final decision as soon as possible so he can know what his life will look like and who he will live with. She really is despicable and there's some judges I know who I wish were handling that woman because this would have been done and over with years ago.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I remember at some point telling friends & relatives who were watching the show that I was beginning to get a bad feeling about Kate & the way she was handling her kids. I was told that I was imagining things and over reacting. I'm sorry to say I was right all along.

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Anyone watching Dirty John or listen to the podcast or read the article series?

"We're getting a bad feeling about John"....."You're overreacting and imagining things."

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Didn't one of TFW's lawyers once show up at the wrong courthouse? Maybe that's why TFW was a no-show today. If it involves consulting a map, it's beyond her.

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I was totally going to crack the "maybe she went to the wrong courthouse" running joke.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Admin, is the court able to levy any sanctions against K8 and/or her lawyer(s) for not showing up?

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Absolutely, but it's just civil court, so most won't bother except in extreme situations. It's more like oh okay you didn't feel like showing up for your child's hearing? I'll take your absence as acceptance of whatever I decide.

On any given day in my court dozens of parents blow of their hearing. Whatever.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

When she tried yesterday (according to the reports) to have today's hearing changed, does that represent adequate notice?


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Essentially she was asking for a continuance, which you can ask for at any time, but you're supposed to do it as soon as possible. As soon as you know there is a problem with the hearing.

Sad but true said...

Sideline Observer said... 37
Didn't one of TFW's lawyers once show up at the wrong courthouse? Maybe that's why TFW was a no-show today. If it involves consulting a map, it's beyond her.
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That was when she tried to sue Jon and Hoffman in 2013. She had some local guy (when filed, the case had BullyBoy's lawyer's name on it as her attorney, but he was gone after the initial filing) who was clearly way out of his depth against the guy who took Jon's case pro bono. Lord, so many twists and turn--and lawsuits!--over the years, it's just ridiculous.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Lord, so many twists and turn--and lawsuits!--over the years, it's just ridiculous.


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Her abuse of the court system is a story in and of itself. She's so new money with her menagerie of lawsuits. Grow up.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I think she wanted to delay it in hopes of draining Jon’s bank account so he could not afford the court battle. She may have also wanted to delay it to keep Collin in a facility and out of the public eye for another semester.

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She wants to delay it just because, too. Just because that's so Kate.

Creole said...

jolie Jacquelyn (38) & FlimsyFlamsy (39):

I feel so welcome here! I think I will stay :)

josie, I think it was your "Spidey Senses that were tingling" when you got a bad feeling about how Kate treated the kids. Always trust your instincts.

What boggles the mind is that some of her fanbase will still support her, in spite of today's hearing. That borders on fanaticism and that's just sad.

chefsummer #Leh said...

One down and seven-(well five twins are 18)to go.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Layla said... 7

More like TLC

Sit down with Kate Gosselin dramatic music lighting and fake tears and pity me voice. Also the remaining kids sad that mean old don't pay us any attention daddy took our brother away. Mommy is soooo alone with and doing it all.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Typo it's been a while. Glad Jon is seeing the kids.

swingsandroundabouts said...

Wonderful news.

1momski said...

another poster who has not posted in years. I had gotten to the point where I just couldn't stand Kate's cruelty anymore, Colin's being "thrown away" was the last straw. Thrilled for Jon, thrilled for Colin. I think the chickens are finally coming home to roost

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Chef...YAY! Really glad to see you!

Jolie Jacquelyn (#39), I agree that Jon is the parent who shows the kids love and compassion. And here's another significant difference between him and TFW: he gets JOY from parenthood. His children bring him happiness not for what they can do for him, but simply because of who they are.

LisaNH said...

I cannot believe that something actually worked in Jon's favor, for once. I know he's been fighting an uphill battle with Kate since the divorce. I'm rather encouraged to see Jon is finally victorious for once, despite it being due to default (because Kate didn't show up).

And it's good to be back. I feel like it's a reunion of sorts. I still see so many names from when I used to post here regularly. Hi everyone!!

Anonymous said...

Has anyone seen any sign of People covering this story? This story has been covered by virtually all the news sites. It is a glaring omission if they ignore this story.

M.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

'm rather encouraged to see Jon is finally victorious for once, despite it being due to default (because Kate didn't show up).

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It’s encouraging. And it might not have even been a “default” ruling. The judge could easily have ruled against her on the merits regardless of her not showing up.

capecodmama said...

Admin...cute video of Gordon. How's he doing?

Kylie said...

Karma -- ain't she a bitch? We have all waited a really long time to see Kate begin to pay for how she has abused her children thru the years and how the judge always looked the other way and gave Kate what she wanted. Enjoy your new mediocre life Kate. You so richly deserve it.

chefsummer #Leh said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 57
Chef...YAY! Really glad to see you!

:)..been busying Chefing around.LOL

And reading here. Had to comment on Jon's win in court not surprised that Katie didn't show up.

Formerly Duped said...

Nice to see old posters on the board...this news about Collin and Jon is wonderful!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

LisaNH (#58), great to see you! It almost feels like a dream to see things going so well for Jon, doesn't it?

M. (#59), if People ever does dare print this story, you can bet the farm they'll include their standard paragraph about the twins wanting nothing to do with their father, with M's quote about Jon being "toxic." What a thrill for Kate Coyne to get such a juicy scoop. And what a proud moment for TFW to hear her words coming from her daughter's mouth.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

http://i0.wp.com/radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/kate-gosselin-school-expulsion-scandal-reality-mom-confesses-son-collin-social-educational-problems.jpg?resize=540,400

Kate can no longer hush Collin up. What a glorious day.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Admin...cute video of Gordon. How's he doing?

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Every day he does better. Still can't get him to take a walk with me around the block, the world out there scares him. But every day we work on spending time outside desensitizing him helping him realize how fun the world is.

His appetite has never suffered!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I wonder if People will cover the custody story. Somehow I don't think they will mention it.

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If they ever do it will be that new chick who started writing about them who her first day on the job didn't get the memo they all hated Jon. Poor thing probably got the riot act read to her in Coyne's corner office. Subsequent articles were more in line with the party mantra.

CC said...

I don't think Jon won custody of Collin due to default because Kate didn't show up in court.

I think Kate didn't show up in court because she knew Jon was going to get custody of Collin and didn't want to be there to see Jon "win."

She couldn't even show up just to let Collin "think" maybe she even cared one tiny iota.

Concerned Aussie said...

Flimsy Flamsy#57.And here's another significant difference between him and TFW: he gets JOY from parenthood. His children bring him happiness not for what they can do for him, but simply because of who they are.
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That right there says it all. Jon's love for those kids and joy in being their Dad. That's how he's been with them from the beginning. Collin now has a real chance of healing because of that love from his Dad. Hannah too. You can see the spark in her in the photos over the last year since she's been living with Jon.
TFW is dead inside. She's this shell of a human being
with no empathy, joy or any of those emotions that make us human. Hopefully the four remaining tups can survive the last four years of their childhood with her and somehow find some peace in their adult lives. The social experiment which was their childhood will likely have profound effects on each one of them. Finally sweet Collin is getting the chance to feel cherished and valued, along with Hannah. I really feel for the four underage kids still living with her, especially Alexis, who has always seemed to me to be the kid who really doesn't fit in with the others. Very sad because she has such a joyful, loving spirit and would thrive in a loving, nurturing environment. Sorry for the rant but it is beyond me how a mother could act this way. I have five kids and her behaviour is completely baffling to me.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


She couldn't even show up just to let Collin "think" maybe she even cared one tiny iota.

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Remember back in the day when Jon was just not doing well at all in family law court, and we were saying that the kids get older and they could feel differently, and when that day comes they're going to note that Jon fought for them, even if he lost.

This is why every loss Jon had over the years mattered and was important to go through. Even though it was clearly breaking his heart and ruining him financially, he pressed on.

This is the stuff adults talk about on therapy couches years later: My parents divorced and my mom hates me so much for loving my dad that she didn't even bother to fight for me.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

CC (#68), yeah, what better way for C to know he's been "deleted" from his mother's heart than to ignore her court date. What a miserable excuse for a mother.

fade2black said...

I'll join all the other MIA's for Collin's celebration. I have several theories about why Kate didn't show up, each as indefensible as the last. Remember Kate, karma is only a bitch if you are.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

On the twins' 18th birthday, TFW bragged that she fought "tooth and nail" for them. How does she reconcile not doing the same for her son? Is it because all boys are icky and dirty? Or was C just exceptionally objectionable because he had certain challenges she couldn't be bothered with? Heifer.

chefsummer #Leh said...

I'm sure poor little Katie didn't show up because she'd be mobbed by fans and cameras and with only rat claws to protect her HOW CAN SHE as the sole provider can't be harmed...LOL-(Also gotta raise college Twins)

Or she just lazy uncaring me me me it's not about meeee then who cares.

Nah I'm sure it's the 1st one-(snark over)

Anonymous said...

From Dmasy --

It is delightful to see so many "old" names. Hope everyone is well. Maybe Tucker's Mom will pop up out of the corner to visit the veranda again.

Bluebird you have my sympathy and my pet-loving thoughts. Hello to everyone else who is enjoying this custody victory.


Gigi Be said...

I remember a few months back a commenter posted somewhere that she supposedly worked where Collin was staying and there was no way Collin would be going back to live with Kate. Collin made some claims against Kate .And Collin had some deep anger against her and neither of them can get along. Kate is always the last person to admit that she is wrong and everyone else is the blame. Kate has disliked Collin since babyhood. She doesn’t want him and realized that there was just too much dirt on her. She has a HUGE ego which is ,I think,the real reason she didn’t show up

Anonymous said...

Admin, you bring up an excellent point I had almost forgotten about. Jon DID show up and fought for years for these children while Kate enjoyed the backing of TLC in her fight against him at a great cost to him; but he didn't back down. HE SHOWED UP FOR THEM - all of them. I see years of therapy ahead for these unfortunate children who she has used as assets and pawns for years.

bm

Layla said...

This latest court fiasco is so Kate. She didn't get her way with the judge (requesting a delay the day before), so she pitched a fit and refused to show up. There was no reason for her to be a no-show. Maybe if she was seriously sick or got in a car accident, but if that were the case, her lawyer would have shown up. She never planned to go, never intended to fight for Collin, and just wanted to make Jon jump through her hoops one last time. She knew Jon would have to pay his lawyer(s) to go to court, and she wanted to make him pay. Money is control to her, and that's the only control she had left. I truly hope she ends up destitute some day, after all the years she has used her money to harm others. She'll end up spending whatever she has to control and silence the kids once they are grown, and the only way she won't do that is if she doesn't have the money.

Isn't it funny how, after all the years of her talking about how much she was dreading having 8 kids under her roof, that never happened. She banished Collin long before he ever reached his teen years, and Hannah was gone just a few months after becoming a teenager. Kate milked the "I'm going to be a single mom with 8 teenagers" thing for all it was worth, and then never had 8 teens at home--not even for a single day.


Still no mention of yesterday's court fiasco from People. Everyone else is covering it--Daily Mail, E! News, ROL, Us Weekly, Fox News, YAHOO!, and at least a dozen others. But not People, which has covered every aspect of Kate's life. Maybe they can't find a way to fit their usual blurb from 2016 (where the twins say they don't see Jon) into a story about Kate not bothering to even show up for her son. Think they're going to mention Kate's refusal to fight for Collin in their future stories? Nah, me either.

Layla said...

It's obvious from the recent pics Jon has posted that Collin has not had braces. Every one of his siblings has had them--some kids have had them twice. But not Collin. That's on Kate, She had custody, and she had control of his trust. There is no good reason for her to have denied him braces.

Creole said...

To what Layla (#80) said re: Collin not getting braces, it seems to fit with K's mantra that if you're not with her (not that she would give you a choice), you're against her. Reminds me of that awful Alaska trip where she pitched a fit and made the kids leave against their will by laying a guilt trip and saying if they wanted to stay, they were Palins now and not Gosselins. I also remember reading somewhere during that ugly tug of war incident with Hanna that she would have rather gone to a foster home than have to go back with K. Surprised no one questioned K causing Hannah's injuries during that confrontation.

JoyinVirginia said...

Hi everyone! what terrific news! Admin, thanks for keeping your blog going for so long, so we all can celebrate the good news together!
The Date a Shopping Kart Kate show will definitely never see the light of day. TLC has plenty of other families who have custody of all their kids!

LisaNH said...

"FlimsyFlamsy said... 65
LisaNH (#58), great to see you! It almost feels like a dream to see things going so well for Jon, doesn't it?"

Hi Flimsy!! Glad to see you're still here!! I do lurk from time to time but haven't posted. But when I saw the headline on my phone yesterday, this blog was where I needed to comment. So many other Gosselin Blogs have disappeared but this one has stayed and remained relevant. And finally, after all these years, we're seeing some justice.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

JoyinVirginia (#82), isn't it a happy development? With H and C officially with Jon, TFW has now lost one-third of the tups, and one-quarter of all her kids. If that doesn't signify the death knell of her farcical tenure as one America's favorite moms, I don't know what will.

Layla said...

I remember a recap here of an episode were Kate takes the girls for manicures and says something like "If this helps them make better choices in life and in marriage...". How does taking little girls for manicures help them makes better choices as adults? That never made sense to me. But--she was obviously making a dog at Jon with the "better choices in marriage" part of it. Isn't it funny that one of those girls (so far!)fought to get away from Kate and go live with Jon, the one Kate was throwing shade at with her nasty comment?

I wonder what it's like at the Gosselin orphanage now that Kate has lost 2 kids and her "brand" along with them (and even worse, lost them to Jon!), plus fall is almost over and there's no sign of that dating show. Nothing but bad press and new ammunition that her foes will be able to hold against her forever. She can't be much fun to live with these days.

Layla said...

From comment 85--I meant making a dig at Jon, not making a dog at him!!!

PatK said...

Congratulations, Jon! And Kate, you are a disgrace to motherhood.

Sad but true said...

I find it absolutely deplorable that People has ignored this development. They have consistently posted the photos of Hannah and Collin that have appeared on Jon's IG, always taking care to repeat the twins' rude and clueless remarks about him. And now they pay no attention to THIS development? Who's in charge over there? Or are they scrambling to put K8 on their next cover so that this poor pitiful single mom of 8 can "set the record straight," again?

Unfortunately for K8, her actions (or lack thereof) speak for themselves. If her not showing up was due to her not contesting the shift of her son's custody to Jon, as some of her defenders are saying, well, she could have saved a whole lot of people the money/time/hassle/emotional turmoil this has cost since Jon filed for custody 6 weeks ago. I personally think that deserves to be punished.

It'll be fascinating, I'm sure, to see what she comes up with to excuse herself. Film it, People, please--seeing her twist herself into a pretzel on national TV would be must-see TV.

Lorrie said...

It's been almost 10 years since the divorce announcement. 10 years for the tide to fully turn against Kate. Sure, some people disliked her, but she still had her most ardent supporters to defend her. Now, it looks like all but the most staunch (read: delusional) troops have abandoned her. The casual viewers who bought Kate & TLC's smear campaign against Jon have finally opened their eyes to what we've been saying for at least a decade: Kate is an evil, stone-cold liar who couldn't even be bothered to *fake* fight for her own son.

Jon has persevered for TEN YEARS, and it's finally paying off. It really boggles the mind. I'm sure Kate thought she'd get away with playing the martyr mom forever. She really didn't count on Jon's dauntless grit and determination to fight for his children. Major mistake, Kate.

Aggiemom said...

Hey y’all!
Lordy bee, this is good news!

So, the article said other matters will be discussed at a later date? I’m hoping that means:
1. Jon gets control of Colin’s and Hannah’s trust funds.
2. Kate pays out the ass for child support.
3. Kate has to surrender all of Colin’s belongings,if she kept anything.
4. Jon demands visitation orders with ALL the remaining minor kids be strictly enforced. It’s too late for the twins, (aren’t they 18?), maybe one time of these years that relationship can be reestablished.

LOL, when the twins leave for college, she will only have 4 kids under her roof-and 2 of them are icky boys.

The comments on her instagram are blistering.
She HAS to be bat shit furious tonight.

JR said...

Paying Jon child support should be the thing that gives her a nervous breakdown.... I can’t even say that out loud...CHILD SUPPORT! This is it .. this will due her in!

JR said...

Why doesn’t she shut down her comment section? I don’t see how she could stomach it.. it’s brutal...unless she’s just to drunk to look...

ncgirl said...


https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/12/jon-gosselin-wins-custody-son-collin-hell-and-back-parents-war/?fbclid=IwAR0mFkT5WeL7e6jup0HYrBxRvFDuw6ZijIdIJm8oomvqS3ZWlmj79CF2Di4

An article about how Colin has changed.

Formerly Duped said...

Hi Aggiemom! Miss you! And agree with your post

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Aggiemom (#90), so nice to see you!

Lorrie (#89), great comment. TFW was so smugly confident that Jon wasn't up to the challenge of getting his son back. But he clearly retrieved his huevos from her purse!

capecodmama said...

Aggiemom....you've been away for far, far too long. Always enjoyed your posts. Millicent is another one whose posts I miss.

Nice to see the old posters back.

JoyinVirginia...great to see you! Tucker's Mom...hope all is well.

Anonymous said...

I find myself thinking about Milo today. She hasn't surfaced for ages and I truly hope she is not ill. I do think, despite her blindness to TFW's faults, she is a good mother herself. I really don't think she would be impressed that Collin's mother didn't show up to fight for him. I just wonder if she has finally seen the light or would she somehow still be able to defend K's reluctance to fight for Collin.

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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I often saw signs that many of the sheeple were actually probably quite good parents, which then made their love of Kate even more perplexing.

Creole said...

Admin (#98),

Interesting point. The sheeple wanted so much to believe in what K was portraying herself to be, that they became blind to a fault. If something is too good to be true, there's probably a pretty good chance that it isn't.

Sad but true said...

Of course, in the 24-plus hours since this story broke, K8 has somehow gained roughly 2,000 IG followers. Uh-huh.

readerlady said...

I tried to post earlier but it didn't go through. I haven't commented in a couple of years, but I still read here from time to time. I'm so happy that Jon now has custody of Collin. I hope that Collin finally has a chance to lead a mediocre (read "normal") life. He deserves the chance to be himself and not part of a 6 pack. It feels so good to see Karma rise up and take a huge bite out of TFMJG's arse. May it happen frequently, now that the ball is rolling.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Sad but true said... 100
Of course, in the 24-plus hours since this story broke, K8 has somehow gained roughly 2,000 IG followers. Uh-huh.
______

Im sure that is legit...-(LOL)

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Admin I don't know any kate fans but i've never thought that Kate's fans(including milo)were evil just crazy.Like Milo,i think shes just was a crazy fan but i don't think she abuses any of her kids.With that in mind,i've never wished harm on her and where ever she is now,i just hope its nothing serious and that she's ok and who knows,she left during the time it was reported Hannah was living with Jon so maybe(and this is all wishful thinking)that whole thing finally opened her eyes along with realizing Kate's show is done for.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Readerlady (#101), it sure is good to see you! Last I remember, I think you were playing cards under the veranda with AuntieAnn and Jolie Jacquelyn!

She is a Cow said...

Congratulations Jon! And Kate: You are and always will be a Cow!

Gigi Be said...

This from a commentor posted on radar’s article:

“ You should see her when the cameras aren’t filming her! A coworker of mine was at Dicks Sporting Goods store and there was a long line. She asked the cashier if she could quickly ring her up because she was in a hurry and didn’t want to wait in line. She ended up going to the back of the line and waiting her turn! When she was on DWTS she and her partner Tony went to a toy store. Customers recognized him and asked to have an autograph. They asked him but not Kate lol. She was absolutely livid . She’s often out in public yet a large chunk of time she’s alone. No kids”

Formerly Duped said...

Hi Readerlady! Great to see a lot of old posters! Hope all of you have been well and Happy Holidays!

Mel said...

Isn't it a bit unusual to award custody to a dead parent?

I think some of the die hard fans saw Kate has having won the lottery. So many of them seemed to be low education, low money. I think they thought if they were truly loyal to Kate some of that good karma would rub off on them and they wouldn't be poor anymore.

Nice to see that this blog is still here all these years later. About time that John finally had some good luck in the courts.

CC said...

I have no idea what’s up with Milo. Maybe she can’t face the truth about Kate and doesn’t want to have to admit she was wrong.

I recall Milo being downright mean to some non-fans. She wasn’t innocent in a lot of her comments when she didn’t agree about Kate. She wasn’t much better than most of the vicious fans.

CC said...

Do we even know if Milo was really a parent? She posted a couple of pics of two kids from behind. We don’t know if they were even hers.

Anonymous said...

Kate’s fans on Instagram are saying that Jon threatened to release Collins treatment records. They are saying this is the reason Kate did not show up to the custody hearing. They have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to come to this conclusion.

Andrea

1momski said...

I expect that as the Gosselin twins mature and gain some distance from their Mom they will come to see how she prevented them from having a relatinship with their Dad. I think this is true for the remaining tups too. I believe they will resent kate from removing their Dad from their lives and she will find herself isolated

Formerly Duped said...

Wonder what is going on in the minds of all the remaining kids still with Kate. Surely they know from schoolmates/online that Collin too will be with Jon. I hope more of them raise the issue of joining them with their GAL if they have one or whomever is involved in this case.

Layla said...

Andrea (111)
That's a complete fabrication on their part. No mention of Collin's medical records has been made anywhere. Jon and Kate have both said they are barred from publicly sharing certain information, so what are the chances the judge will allow one of them to release a child's medical records? Nonexistent, I'd say. Besides, Jon would never do that to Collin. I would like to know what Kate's fans think is in those records that would scare Kate so much. Evidence of abuse? Physical injuries cause by Kate? Please share, Kate fans!

Kate's supporters also claim that Hannah went to live with Jon because he has more relaxed rules. Again, a complete fabrication by them. Do they really think a judge is going to remove a child from the home she has been in for years and send her to the other parent just because that parent has fewer rules? Are they really that stupid? (Answer: YES!)

I'm so happy to see some of our old posters here again! And so many new ones, too. Please pull up a chair and stay awhile!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

1momski (#112), I hope you're right about the twins and tups finally seeing the truth about their mother. But never underestimate the manipulative powers of a black-belt narcissist. I bet at least one kid is being groomed to stay on TFW's side no matter what. That child will be rewarded and/or shamed into staying on Team Mom forever.

JustMissy said...

2 days later and still crickets from people.com. What a bunch of hypocrites.

Lorrie said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 115

I hope it's not Alexis. She strikes me as the girl tup who didn't "belong". I loved her spunky and offbeat personality -- probably exactly what Kate always disliked about her.

Layla said...

Ooohhhh, apparently Wendy Williams went off on Kate this morning on her show. My favorite comment: "Kate, now she's got this dating show that comes out next year on TLC, who cares! You have time to date but you don't have time to save your son?" this is the first time I've heard of the dating show coming out next year, although it doesn't look like it will come out this year. I'm leaning toward it not coming out at all. The ratings were going to be horrible before, but now it's a given that it will be a dismal failure (IF it airs).

Wendy praised Jon for his dedication to Collin. Jon deserves it. He's the parent who has never stopped fighting for his kids. He's the one who loves is kids when they're not supporting him. The same can't be said for Kate.

Formerly Duped said...

Lorrie said... 117

FlimsyFlamsy said... 115

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That's what I was thinking. Alexis did not get to visit Jon much..and one episode when Leah said she would move out as soon as it was legal, Alexis and Kate agreed they would live together with a menagerie. It was kind of muffled as everyone was talking but I though, oh no! I like Alexis' personality a lot too. L and H were often mean to her.

NJGal51 said...

http://celebrityinsider.org/amp/wendy-williams-slams-kate-gosselin-for-losing-custody-battle-questions-the-womans-priorities-221756/

Here’s the article on Wendy Williams.

aggiemom said...

Kate’s finally mopped herself into a corner and doesn’t know how to get out. The celebrity status she so craved is over, the phone isn’t ringing, no more one- week -at -home/one -week- jetsetting, and the adorable babies grew up, she’s been divorced for 10 years, Jon refuses to die, her twins are soon to fly the coup.
She’s left with a huge mortgage and half her kids, no extended family, no friends.

On another note, I always thought Milo and Tucker’s Mom were the same person. They both disappeared at the same time. They both were prolific posters- when Hannah moved to Jon’s, POOF! Tucker’s and Milo went mia.

Hey here’s a positive for the 4 remaining kids at the compound— I think each can now have their own room. Lol

All she had to do was learn how to co-parent.
It ain’t rocket science.

I guess all she gained from selling her family to TLC was inflatable boobies.

ncgirl said...

Here's an article about Wendy Williams on Kate:

“I mean, even if you can’t handle him full time because maybe he’s too much, you could have shown up and got joint custody or something,” Wendy suggested. “To not do anything? The ID channel is waiting for you.” The talk show host then congratulated Jon, despite being disgusted by his ex’s lack of action."

Anonymous said...

From Dmasy --

Aggiemom (121) What a theory! Wondering. Hello to you.

Anonymous said...

“Hey here’s a positive for the 4 remaining kids at the compound— I think each can now have their own room. Lol”

The smelly boys will always be banished to the basement room. She will leave the twins rooms as is so they will want to come home over college breaks.

Andrea

AuntieAnn said...

Wendy suggested. “To not do anything? The ID channel is waiting for you.”

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Is that Kate's goose I smell cooking?

I'll bet WW is only the beginning. Schmoopy better find a bigger rock to hide under.

Sad but true said...

This is sort of old news, but now it's confirmed AND proves the GAL is indeed stepping up.

https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/12/jon-gosselin-wins-custody-kate-gosselin-kids-guardian-nasty-court-battle/

Anonymous said...

Whoa.Tucker's Mom is Milo?? What a theory...Aggiemom always made this connection?

M.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#126), you beat me to it. The wheels of justice and all that. Jon stood his ground and hung in there. He was cast as the villain for a decade, but he slowly but surely turned the ship around.

Poor widdle Schmoopy. No one even cares enough about her to let her set the record straight. No trip to NYC for glamorous pampering. No poke-and-dab interview. No rubbing elbows with the real celebrities in the green room. No fish and paper afterwards. No tweets with inside jokes to whoever went with her when she returns home to the drudgery of motherhood. Mediocre, party of one.

NJGal51 said...

Testing....I’m having trouble with posting.

Gigi Be said...

I’m hoping the new GAL continues to intervene and there will be more kids who come forward and express their wishes to leave Kate’s clutches

Layla said...

FlimsyFlamsy (128)

I'd like to see her submit her list of demands that need to be met before she'd agree to stay at Essex House now. Kobe beef, a load of Whole Foods groceries, a room next to the gym. Can you imagine the reaction? Now she's reduced to using her former celebs status to try to cut the line at Dick's Sporting Goods. And even that didn't work.

CC said...

I love that a GAL was involved in making the decision to give custody to Jon. It shows that he didn’t get Collin just by default of Kate not showing up in court.

It also proves it was something done IN THE BEST INTEREST of Hannah and Collin. It proves Jon is what is best for them.

I wonder if the fans realize that if it was up to Kate Collin would still be living in that facility with no hope of going home. We don’t know Collin’s current situation but at least we know Jon is willing to do whatever needs to be done to get him out of there. Kate didn’t even attempt to bring him home.

Anonymous said...

I hate it when people call Collin troubled. It’s clear that he was not in a medical facility. Medical facility’s work to send children home ASAP. Kate probably just sent him to a home for “troubled kids” where parents warehouse kids until they turn 18. It’s sad that these places are allowed to exist.

Andrea

Lorrie said...

Anonymous said... 133

Exactly. The “troubled” stigma is going to stick with Collin for a very long time.

Anon for this said...

Jon has been working behind the scenes for a long time. He has the right of first refusal if Kate goes out of town.

silimom224 said...

So pleased at the outcome of the most recent custody hearing! As for Jon only having temporary custody, I would assume that it’s only because Collin is transitioning back to a family setting, and so they want to make sure he is adjusting well.

Since Kate was the one who set the terms of the kids trust, I’m sure she was allowed to pull money out to cover their expenses for school and home. So I suspect that an audit isn’t going to show that she did anything out of the ordinary in regards their funds. Unfortunately probably what it means is that the kids will have no money when they graduate high school.

Locals - Is Steve still in the picture? Has anyone seen him around town?

Layla said...

I'm curious what will happen to the house. It was originally in the kids' trust, with a lawyer (trustee?) also listed. 7 years ago Kate took the lawyer's name off and put hers on there instead, and refinanced the house. Now it is co-owned by Kate and by the kids' trust (CWM Revocable Trust). When the kids re all grown, what is their claim to the house if they are all split on living arrangements? Kate has made it clear that she intends to live there forever. I wouldn't be surprised if she decides to revoke the kids' interest in it and make it all hers. Can she do that if she doesn't have legal custody of some of the kids? Can she still take everything back now that the twins are adults? I could see her making that threat to keep the remaining kids on her side. I hope the court is going to take a hard look at what she does with their finances, and I hope Jon gets to take control of Hannah's and Collin's money until they are adults. At least that way they'll still have something.

Creole said...

Layla (137):

I think each trust setup is different, depending on the circumstances. My elderly father has a living trust, but it was set up to make sure that the house be kept in the family, which was my deceased mother's final wish. There are several affected parties involved (my siblings) and if they want their "share" up front, they will have to concede their right in having a say in the estate. In our case, all the children have to agree if they ever want to sell the family home for whatever reason.

In the Gosselins' case, I can't imagine that K8 will be able to keep that house in the long run with the huge amount of property taxes and no discernible income of her own, unless she keeps mooching off of what the younger kids made during the show.

Creole said...

Oh yes, and do hope that K8 gets audited for her finances as Layla said previously. Always follow the money...

NJGal51 said...

Admin - Now that Jon has custody of both Hannah and Collin can he request an audit of her finances?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Admin - Now that Jon has custody of both Hannah and Collin can he request an audit of her finances?

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Yes, he can request support now which would usually include an audit.

Oh, karma. You came so slowly yet arrived with such vengeance.

NJGal51 said...

It looks like the gravy train has turned into the karma train and is pulling in to the station. Toot! Toot! CHECK!!

Kylie said...

No way, IMO, could Milo and Tucker's Mom be the same. But thanks for the laugh.

BlueJay said...

I'm a new poster. I used to watch the show, but early on I saw things that lead me to feel uncomfortable. But this news for Collin is very nice to hear. I often wondered when the kids got older if they would make that choice to live with which parent.

My question that I've always had in the back of my mind certainly now that two of the children live with Jon (or will shortly)what impact this can have on two things: one what could be potential impact on future TLC specials such as when the kids' turn 16 or something like that? Has there been any statement official from TLC that they've ended this show entirely? And two: what, if any, could potential issues arise if since the kids are all older if they decide to not film anymore? How would Kate who doesn't practice nursing anymore get buy? I find it odd that reality TV would pay THAT well for her to stretch that until she's a senior citizen but I don't know much about things like that. Even she did do well one would, I assume, have to be good at managing money to make themselves not have to work. I don't know the stats on former reality TV starts having to go back to work after.

If these questions have been answered already, I'm sorry I haven't read all the comments yet.

JR said...

Omg admin that’s exactly what I was thinking....hitting Kate in the pocketbook is probably what will put her over the edge...could you imagine her being forced to give Jon money... oh the humanity!!
I love when the universe works

silimom said...

I am sure that the terms of the trust are highly flexible in Kate’s favor. If I were Jon’s legal team, I’d definitely request a financial audit. I would also quite frankly petition to have an independent firm act as trustee rather than either of the parents (Jon and Kate) or Steve (whom I believe Kate made a trustee during the divorce).

I hope that Jon allows Hannah and Collin to spend time with both sides of their extended family, especially Kevin and Jody.

I also hope that the court enforces Jon’s visitation schedule so that Aaden, Joel, Alexis and Leah are able to reunite with Collin as well as Hannah.

I suspect Cara will reach out to her dad once she is away at college for a few years. She seemed to have a good relationship with Jon in the past. I’m not sure about Mady.

Fortunately, I don’t think Kate plus 8: The college years is going to happen. (Joke)

https://youtu.be/ztgO814qZvA


FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#141), if TFW's expenses are audited, I'd love to hear her try to explain the need for that deluxe deck. You know, the one she said was, with no exaggeration, the single-most important thing she'd done for the health and welfare of her family. I've always felt that explanation was TFW-speak for, I raided my kids' savings for this, but, trust me, it was worth it.

Formerly Duped said...

Kylie said... 143

No way, IMO, could Milo and Tucker's Mom be the same. But thanks for the laugh.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I agree..it's so hard. Whatever the case, I always found Tucker's Mom to be an informative, intelligent and generous poster. Her style and diction were so different from Milo's. I miss her.

Sad but true said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 147

I can see her making the argument that she was improving the kids' house (LOL) in order to enhance resale value. After all, there was that door to nowhere in her kitchen. I imagine she's scrambling now to come up with explanations for many of their expenses---ahem, the kids' "bodyguard," for example.

BlueJay (144), welcome! Kate had other revenue streams, at least in earlier days, with DWTS, her books, the other couple of reality shows she did, etc. I believe the book revenue has all but dried up by now (especially since the last two were bombs). It's also possible she invested in her new show, in order to obtain some back-end rights, but we will likely never know. I think she's far from destitute, but who knows how the cards might fall if a true audit is ever done. I am sure she will lose no time in crying poverty if Jon or the kids start making noise about the size of their trusts.

Layla said...

BlueJay (144)

Kate hasn't made any huge amounts of money in many years, and she's been fighting Jon in court over custody ever since the divorce--that gets expensive. She had a lot of money thrown at her a decade ago, but definitely not since 2011. It's hard to say what she has left, but if she were to run out, she would definitely take the kids' money before she'd get a real job. She had those kids so they could support her and make her famous, and she's not about to reduce herself to working a "mediocre" job. She still thinks they need to be the ones to pay her bills.


TLC hasn't announced cancellation, but it's safe to say the sextuplets will never appear together on TV again. Jon would never allow it. It causes Collin too much stress, and who can forget Kate forcing Hannah to film while she had a stress headache, and brushing Hannah's pain off as "just a Hannah thing". TLC (and Kate) would love to cash in even more on these kids, but I don't think that will happen.

AuntieAnn said...

I agree with Kylie and Formerly. IIRC one of the last comments Tucker's Mom made was that she was taking a little break. I can't believe for a minute that she could be Milo.

For whatever the reason she's absent, I hope all is well with her.

Ninnie said...

Maybe now for a change, Collin will get some love and consistency

BlueJay said...

Kate Plus 8 the college years, oh that's for that good laugh!

I don't know if she would need to pay child support, maybe. I don't know if that would go smoothly though without any court filings however. Even if Kate has other means of income perhaps I'm just skeptic with how long people could stretch a reality show and other incomes without having to work at some point. I dind't pay much attention the first time, I mean Jon had to go back to regular jobs after, what makes Kate so special? I can't specifically think of other reality shows where they have to go back to work.

Thanks for the Welcome.

jolie Jacquelyn said...

I agree, Milo & Tucker's Mom just can't be the same person. We're missing Tucker's as much as we missed you, Auntie.

Nice to see new names & old favourites popping up again!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

AuntieAnn (#151), ditto. Tucker's Mom is a thoughtful, articulate person who seems to have a full, busy life. Milo struck me as a lonely person who saw TFW as someone she wished she could be. I don't think even Meryl Streep could pull of playing both those roles.

She surely must be anxious about money by now said...

I wonder how long before she has to declare bankruptcy.... she just simply cannot have much left after not working for what, since 2011? Her expenses are large for house, food, private school tuition...

And she won't be able get a job that pays much because she doesn't have any skills and she is so darned lazy...

Woe is her, poke-dab...

Anonymous said...

I wonder how Katevwill afford college for her kids. I don’t think any of the kids in Kate’s custody will get significant financial aid through FASFA. The land and the home will be a hug deciding factor along with their trust funds. I had an wxpected family contribution of $0 according to FASA,. I went to a state School. I still had to take out lines. The school I went to had tuition under $3,000 per semester but grants and work study can’t cover everything. I hope the G kids are not going into an unreasonable amount of debt for their education.


Andrea

CC said...

She surely must be anxious about money by now said... 156

I wonder how long before she has to declare bankruptcy.... she just simply cannot have much left after not working for what, since 2011? Her expenses are large for house, food, private school tuition...
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Ha! Kate probably has quite a hefty balance in her accounts.

It's the kids who aren't going to have anything left in their trusts. She uses their trusts to pay for all their expenses and schooling. She can use a percentage of each of their trusts to pay for their "housing," in other words, a large portion of the mortgage.

She can also pay herself a percentage out of their trusts as their "manager" when they film and whenever she "works" on whoring them out for any shows, etc.

capecodmama said...

As far as the kids college expenses, Jon said in an interview awhile back that they were fully funded. I can't remember who the interview was with or when it was.

AuntieAnn said...

jolie and Flimsy, I always enjoyed reading about her food shopping adventures. I gathered she was a hell of a cook. Hopefully she'll be back to share more of them. Flimsy, 'Meryl Streep as Milo'...lol!

AuntieAnn said...

I wonder how long before she has to declare bankruptcy.... she just simply cannot have much left after not working for what, since 2011?

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Kate's been keeping her nursing licence up to date hasn't she? It might come in handy one of these days. I'm thinking fertility clinic employment would be right up her...uh...alley.

Layla said...

capecpdmama (159)

Kate also said (on Bethenny Frankel's talk show) that the majority of what they made from the show was put into a college fund for the kids. She said she personally put the money in the fund. If there's not enough money for private school and college for all of the kids, then that's on her and nobody else.

capecodmama said...

Admin...Gordon is looking good! He is just a cutie patootie.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Admin...Gordon is looking good! He is just a cutie patootie.

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Yesterday was a real breakthrough, and I've been meaning to post to check out his instagram video of him blossoming at the dog park.

https://www.instagram.com/sea_gordon_the_rescue_pup/

Still won't walk on command at least. Has to be carried if he doesn't want to go. We will get there!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Milo struck me as a lonely person who saw TFW as someone she wished she could be. I don't think even Meryl Streep could pull of playing both those roles.

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NJGal51 said...

As far as the kids college expenses, Jon said in an interview awhile back that they were fully funded. I can't remember who the interview was with or when it was.
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I do remember both Jon and TFW saying that BUT I wouldn’t put it past TFW to make her own interpretation of that and change it to school expenses. I really can’t see her footing the bill for the private school all these years. Only time will tell and so will whomever writes the first tell all book.

Put me in the camp with those that DON’T think that Tucker’s Mom and Milo are the same person.

Creole said...

Aww, I love how Gordon's tail is wagging so happily when he's playing with the other dogs. Good On 'Ya, Admin!

And stay strong Collin! There are so many people rooting for you! K8 doesn't deserve a son like you.

AuntieAnn said...

Still won't walk on command at least. Has to be carried if he doesn't want to go.

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That's understandable. I tend to be that way myself.

Concerned Aussie said...

That's understandable. I tend to be that way myself.
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LOL. Gordon is adorable. He's making me seriously consider adopting a puppy from South Korea. How do I go about researching that Admin? Only thing I'm worried about is how my two cats would handle it. One of them has issues with anxiety. The were rescue kittens.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


LOL. Gordon is adorable. He's making me seriously consider adopting a puppy from South Korea. How do I go about researching that Admin?

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Do it!

If you live near a major city, most have lines on some of the shelters in South Korea who routinely send their dogs abroad to better homes. Or, you can travel to a major city to pick up your dog from the airport. I would google "South Korea rescue dog" and your city.

As far as your cats, maybe expose them to friends' dogs first and see how they do. My Gordon wouldn't harm a hair on a cat, so it depends on the dog.

Some rescues post videos of the dog in South Korea, mine did post one, and I saw other rescues would post four or five showing the pups in different situations like playing with other dogs, eating food, being pet, etc., so you can see how they act.

Concerned Aussie said...

If you live near a major city, most have lines on some of the shelters in South Korea who routinely send their dogs abroad to better homes.
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Thanks, I will definitely look into it. I love the idea of saving such a precious life. Our cats were abandoned at a shelter at three weeks old, both from the same litter. They had to go into foster care until they were old enough for us to adopt them at 8 weeks. It's funny, the male has always been a very chill sort of cat. Very laid back and makes friends with everyone. His sister has always had anxiety. She's very affectionate to us but runs a mile from everyone else.

Ampersmom said...

I have posted in the past but just lurked for a long time. So happy for Jon and the kids. Jon has worked so long for this. Like some others, I was wondering when Karma would really catch up to Kate. I can't imagine what would be so utterly important that even her lawyer could not make it to court.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Ampersmom (#172), nice to see you! Also Fade2black, Meagler, She Is A Cow, PatK...and awn and awn! I hope other "old timers" will check in!

Susan1956 said...

Ampersmom said... 172
I have posted in the past but just lurked for a long time. So happy for Jon and the kids. Jon has worked so long for this. Like some others, I was wondering when Karma would really catch up to Kate. I can't imagine what would be so utterly important that even her lawyer could not make it to court.
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I think I posted this before, but Kate's current attorney is primarily a real estate lawyer as well as a realtor. So I would think he would be out of his depth trying to navigate custody and all the other issues as well as managing a client like Kate.

Admin, wouldn't he face some sort of sanctions for not showing up in court? Even if he quit when Kate told him she was not going to court, he still should have shown up to withdraw from the case. JMHO.

Ninnie said...

I'm wondering how Collin feels knowing that his mother couldn't bother to go to court and fight for him.

aggiemom said...

Yes, it is possible that Milo and TM are the same person.
Last time I read a book, the author successfully wrote a dialogue to fit his characters.
(I’ve never believed Milo to be a real person, just someone cooked up by someone in Kate’s camp).

It does seem odd that a prolific poster just fell off the face of the earth-the same time Milo did.
I guess it doesn’t really matter, what’s important is Jon isn’t dead!

Meagler said...

Hi FlimsyFlamsy! Yes, it has been a while since I popped in to have drinks on the veranda!
I am watching in anticipation of what the duture holds not just for the Gosselin kids but all kids involved in reality....errr....not so reality t.v..
This story is foing to blow open soon.

lurking said...

Sandylove said... 8
Admin, why does it say he won temporary custody and not permanent custody? And I agree with everyone else, it is disgusting that Kate couldn't bother to show up. I can't wait to see how her fans defend her on this one.

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First of all, this is the first I've seen this news! YAY! To answer your question as a person who had custody in PA (DD is now 22), most custody orders are "temporary". The other parent can petition with change of circumstances. I had "temporary" physical custody for 16 years.

lurking said...

Anonymous said... 35
Jon has shown true class by not posting anything on Instagram. Hannah was lucky that the media did not hear about her custody case until after it was over. I don’t think the media saw that one coming.

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That's why I had no idea about this. I've been keeping an eye on both the IGs and nothing has been posted

Sandylove said...

Thanks lurking for explaining about temporary custody!

I agree with the others who think no way is TM the same as Milo.

lurking said...

Sandylove said... 180
Thanks lurking for explaining about temporary custody!

I agree with the others who think no way is TM the same as Milo.

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No problem, it is confusing. I agree about TM too. No way

lurking said...

Looking through Twitter for info on this custody stuff and came across these tweets. Not sure if it's true or not but LOL


@SaludaSC
Dec 6
So the reality dating TV show I was asked to audition for is going to star Kate Gosselin. I think a solid decision to pass.

@gypsiekera
Dec 6
Replying to @SaludaSC
You don’t want 6 step children? 😂


@SaludaSC
Dec 6
8!! She has 8!! 10 out of 10, don’t recommend. 😂😬

NJGal51 said...

@SaludaSC
Dec 6
So the reality dating TV show I was asked to audition for is going to star Kate Gosselin. I think a solid decision to pass.
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So once again, the realest reality show. Looking for love with hired actors. I guess that's the only way that she can get anyone to go out with her.

CC said...

Looking through Twitter....

Thanks for that! Too funny! A guy doesn’t even want to date her if he’s paid!

Notice he said AUDITION, not interview. These definitely aren’t even guys interested in knowing her. They are PAID ACTORS!

I couldn’t help asking him to go on the date, so he could give that solid pass in person and we be able to see it! He’s an actor after all.

Layla said...

Kate probably had a window of time in which she can appeal the custody decision, so that's probably why it's temporary. She appealed Hannah's custody, but filed too late and that was denied. I doubt she'll appeal Collin's, since she obviously doesn't want him, but they have to give her the chance.

Layla said...

lurking (182)

So, if this was posted on Dec. 6th, then they're still trying to come up with dates for Kate's Fake Dating Show? At this rate it could be years before it's finished. She'll be 50 and still trying to find enough men to date her for this stupid show.

Now we know for sure this is not a "reality" show at all. These men are auditioning for parts, not looking to date her or compete for her. It's just an acting credit for them. I guess that would work according to her plan, though. She wants multiple seasons, and if she finds the "right" guy the first season, she won't get that. Of course, the ratings will be so bad it won't have a chance of further seasons, but she'll never admit that.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Almost all custody is temporary really, because unless parental rights have been terminated, a parent can always go back and request a change in custody, as long as they show some kind of change in circumstances.

Thank goodness for temporary with KATE, that's how Jon was able to change things for himself.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Notice he said AUDITION, not interview. These definitely aren’t even guys interested in knowing her. They are PAID ACTORS!

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The fainting couch is ready and available in the porch corner for anyone feeling a little woozy over this shocking news.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm wondering how Collin is feeling knowing his mother wouldn't go to court to fight for him. SHAME

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A therapist will be asking him that same question sooner or later.

lurking said...

Oooh I found an earlier tweet from him:

Sean
‏@SaludaSC
Nov 18
More
Highlight of my week: Got asked by a Casting Agent to try out for a reality TV dating show for a female celebrity. The celebrity is cute but it's a pass from me. My ego appreciated as did my funny bone.

Lorrie said...

Admin 189 - that’s probably the sole “silver lining” in this whole Collin situation. He likely has already been receiving tons of therapy already. I am so sad for that boy. What he’s been put through!

ncgirl said...

It would take an Oscar winning actor to pretend to like Kate, but I don't think Tom Hanks is available.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Lorrie (#191), I share your hope about C's years of treatment. We watched him repeatedly marginalized and disenfranchised in his own home, and that's when cameras were rolling. Who knows the horrors he experienced without that buffer.

I'd like to think the kind and considerate attention of others -- even if they weren't relatives --
made C feel loved and cared for.
Young people can be surprisingly resilient. I hope and pray there is a happy, stable future ahead for C.

BlueJay said...

I couldn't be bothered to look this up myself, what with this Kate dating show on or off, the Twist of Kate that never materialized (far as I know), so does Kate plus 8 even actually still film? I mean is it on the TLC filming schedule still? I can't say I know much how this custody issue with work if Jon were to say Hannah and Collin can't be filmed I mean what's the point of Plus 8? With the twins being 18 wouldn't that take this down to Kate plus 4--and lot of people have 4 kids so it's not like you could although yeah it IS Kate I totally don't see how she's going to swing filming 4 kids.

On the issue of Collin I do hope the boy gets some peace now. But I often wonder when they get older if somewhere long the line surprise someone is going to randomly take their picture and it ends up all over the internet. It seems after reality TV that it's hard for people to go back to regular life.

Anonymous said...

The last season of Kate Plus 8 only aired 3 episodes. I don’t think we will see more episodes.

Andrea

Layla said...

lurking (190)
So, as of about 3 weeks ago, they were still trying to line up men for this show. And yet they've supposedly been filming for months already. That makes no sense at all--they said the show would air in the fall, and in November they're still trying to get people to participate? Sounds like nobody wants to appear on it. Given the bad press aimed at Jon ever since he appeared on T with her, I don't blame them.

I wonder if they have to re-shoot parts of it. Cut out Kate's unpleasantness, and probably cut out all her references to how she's always done it all for her kids--or that she even still has 8 kids at home. People know better.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


The last season of Kate Plus 8 only aired 3 episodes. I don’t think we will see more episodes.

Andrea

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For the longest time we've been saying this show is cooked and it always seems to rise from the ashes. But this time I think you're right, it really is done. She could BARELY explain away Collin, and it was hard work to get that little stunt to go over with viewers. Even sheeple were upset. It's one thing to explain a kid is gone to get help for his special needs, quite another to say oh their dad now has custody of two of them.

She can't do Kate plus 8 with only 6, it's just embarrassing. Even TLC would be embarrassed about that one.

Concerned Aussie said...

For the longest time we've been saying this show is cooked and it always seems to rise from the ashes. But this time I think you're right, it really is done.
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I remember back before I emerged from lurkerdom (think I just invented a new word), reading posts from Golly Gee and she would often say about Kate, "Her time is coming". Well I think it's finally here. I hope Golly Gee knows. She seemed so passionate in her concern for the welfare of the G kids.

Wowser said...

I’m sorry but does anyone else think it’s entirely possible that the show won’t be aired because they couldnt find enough guys willing to date her-even if they were paid?? That is hilarious if not entirely pathetic if it’s true.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I’m sorry but does anyone else think it’s entirely possible that the show won’t be aired because they couldnt find enough guys willing to date her-even if they were paid?? That is hilarious if not entirely pathetic if it’s true.

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I’m sorry but does anyone else think it’s entirely possible that the show won’t be aired because they couldnt find enough guys willing to date her-even if they were paid?? That is hilarious if not entirely pathetic if it’s true.

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It's possible. The thing is, a lot of men who would be auditioning for this actually want to be actors, have managers, and are thinking about the big picture of their resumes. One funky weird gig on trash TV might be seen as hurting their resume rather than helping it. Better to have no work than bad work. Better to wait for something better.

A friend of mine isn't an actor, but he's an editor. He turns down a LOT of crap he's asked to do. He actually turned down a gig on that A and E show about addiction. At first I didn't understand it. Work is work, right? But then he said so many of his friends have had their IMDB resumes trashed by certain projects, and that a period of time where you are not working is better than a project that is looked down on. There is apparently even a difficult way to try to get certain tarnishing projects off IMDB, which some of his friends have tried.

So I do buy that they actually might struggle to drum up interest. It looks like this guy who was offered the audition isn't really a working actor, so they might now be looking more toward the every man. And with that you're going to run into wives, girlfriends and mothers advising them not to do it.

In sum, yeah, casting might be more difficult than they bargained for.

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