Saturday, January 21, 2017

Recap: Kate Plus 8 "New Orleans, Here We Come!": 'Kate Making Excuses for Herself: But I'm an Exception to the Rules Because'

Coming up on Kate Plus 8, or as Mady has deemed it, "Kate Making Excuses for Herself: But I'm an Exception to the Rules Because." Baw! In later years, Mady will learn that is also known as narcissism. Kate has always wanted to..., and I'm already bored. I thought Kate didn't have help anymore. But there's Andrea, the nanny, front and center apparently drinking on the job with a big glass of wine.

Heir Kate is walking around with a clipboard and pen asking Andrea, as Andrea truly looks very busy and productive making lots of sandwiches, if she has done various tasks Kate could have done herself. Yes, Kate, I emptied the fridge. Yes, Kate, I ran the dishwasher. Oh, I should clarify, Kate phrases these tasks like did we empty the fridge? Well, if "we" emptied the fridge, then wouldn't Kate know it was done, and could check it off without consulting Andrea? What a piece of work she is, she can't even give Andrea full credit for doing the chores herself. I have never seen a nanny more checked out. Why is she still working for this woman?

This episode is structured like the fifty other episodes where they went on a trip, with about five minutes in the beginning about the chaos of packing. After all this time you would think packing would be pretty efficient and uneventful by now. Absolutely nothing remotely interesting happens. Kate is able to get in a dig at the boys though emphasizing how much they suck at packing. The biggest problem is they don't understand the difference between a play outfit and a go away outfit. Neither do I, so count me as a boy.

I get a kick out of this family always being demoted to the very back of the plane in some of the worst seats possible, right in front of the restrooms so it smells back there, it's busy all the time, and the seats won't recline. I have a feeling it's because unless you book way in advance, it's impossible to get so many seats together in any other part of the plane, but you know it chaps Kate's hide she's not where she should be in first class with the rest of the aristocracy worthy of life boats.

I'm glad some of the kids are able to make the best of the cameras. Several of them frequently make funny faces at the cameras and overall act silly when the red light is on. Good for them.

They start the next day at some cute outdoor seating and beignets. Oh god those are so good. The kids seemed to enjoy the experience and loved putting the powdered sugar on. I notice right away Cara and Mady are constantly whipping their phones out at this meal and showing each other things. For teens who don't have social media, they sure found a lot to look at. Heh. The producer asks what's with taking out the phones at the meal. Mady explains if this were a more formal meal of course she would put the phone away. I agree, this was really casual. It's just breakfast, and just beignets. And if Kate doesn't want the phones out she can tell them so. You have to pick your battles here, and if the phones are keeping the teens in good spirits, who cares? They can put them away at dinner. No one was really talking anyway, except Kate who threw out a few orders at the 12- and 15-year-olds, like don't wipe your hands on your clothes, instead use a napkin. Seriously? I somewhat feel for teens who are always under strict orders from parents over the stupid phones, if the parents don't make any effort to engage them in good conversation or otherwise make their time together interesting so they won't miss their phone so much.

And wouldn't you know it, they're using Snapchat, which is basically social media. Only, I guess they didn't get permission from the app to use the name, because Mady has to call it this app that does face filters. Heh. Snapchat makes this generation's teens giggle uncontrollably like my generation was giggling uncontrollably at the likes of that stupid game Mad Libs. Every generation has their thing.

Kate pretends she cares when the waiter comes over and announces the bill is "36 bucks". So that's how you pay? No check, they just announce the price at the end of the meal? Geez, this place is iPhone casual after all. Let's be honest, that's going on the company credit card. Kate strategically planned the sugar rush in the morning instead of the evening so they can get it out of their system early. Oh, I didn't realize the children were four years old.

You can tell there's not going to be much substance to this episode when they're already filling time by sticking in a bunch of unnecessary old clips about prior family photos. They go to some unnamed park and take a bunch of iPhone photos. A quick google on my part reveals this is probably New Orleans City Park, which houses the oldest tree in New Orleans at 800 years. That's a lot of botox. Why not share some of that interesting information instead of this dumb little side story about how it's hard to get a good family photo? Sigh. At least this time Kate isn't barefoot sucking a lollypop so hard you would think she was practicing how to get a promotion.

Commercials! That little tease of the Duggar show Counting On implying they might be having twins was so stupid. They're not having twins, are they? Yeah I didn't think so. Dumb.

Next up, etiquette class. Where would one begin with this doofus? Alexis is "sick" with the flu and isn't coming. I know kids can get sick suddenly, but is anyone not buying this? She was happy on the plane, scarfed down her beignets that morning, climbed all over the ancient trees. Now, seemingly a short time later, she has the flu? I'm going to speculate Alexis didn't want to film for some reason, had a tantrum, and that's why she's not here. Because I can.

Mark their instructor, who is wearing a beautiful fitted tweed jacket and maroon shirt, begins explaining etiquette. Heh, oh the irony, Kate is already finishing the guy's sentences, which in etiquette is more aptly called interrupting. 

The kids are so mean to Alexis, in particular the girls, who almost all claim, in two separate couch interviews no less, that Alexis is basically a slob. Poor kid. At least she laughs at all this teasing, but at a certain point the ganging up on has got to catch up to her psyche.  It's one thing when one or two sisters do it, but I think it's quite another when you have four sisters against you. The only person who needs etiquette wasn't there, says Mady. Huh? I see Kate there.

The girls seem rather offended when Mark teaches the boys to escort them to the table and pull their chairs out for them. We can do it ourselves, they insist! Ha, the little Gloria Stienums. Naturally, Kate attributes this sudden stroke of "women's libbers" to her, Kate, since they see her doing it all alone. Drink! Slapping hand to the forehead. Women's lib is not about doing things all by yourself and never letting a man, or anyone, help you. Not mainstream anyway.  Is that what she thinks it's about? She's confusing this movement with a praying mantis. No Kate, not the same thing.


Mm, no, I'm gonna go ahead and attribute the girls' feminism to the media. Everything is attributed to the media.

Speaking of all this, why not take your girls to the Women's March, Kate? There was a local one right in Philly, and 50,000 showed up. I didn't go to the one here, but when I was on the 101 freeway this afternoon I drove under several marchers hanging out on the overpasses, and gave them several honks and fist pumps. Lots of my girlfriends went to either this one in L.A. or the one in D.C., and many who have daughters brought them. Kate should have gone. She just might learn something, and she and the girls could be part of history. It's always interesting how unengaged she is with everything, which is fine for herself, but it's depriving her girls of a mother who teachers their daughters to be part of the world instead of just their world.

Mark kisses up to Kate complimenting her on how good the children's manners are already. Speaking of sexist, why is he assuming their manners are all attributable to their mother? Dads teach manners too, as do grandparents and teachers. Hey, Mark, it's not 1879, and the kids have decent manners despite Kate, not because of her.

Mark next lectures that cell phones are a cardinal sin at the table. Generally, at a nice sit down meal, yes. The twins don't care, and justify whipping out their phone in case something cute happens and they need a picture. Ha, Aaden and Joel are so funny. They make fun of the twins and Kate for going through withdrawal tremors not having their phones.

By the way, Collin's not on the couch with his brothers, but he's on this trip. Hm.

Of course Kate feels she needs her phone at the table because she is a mother, which is where Mady throws out her new show name: "Kate Making Excuses for Herself: But I'm an Exception to the Rules Because." Perfection, Mady.

They dig into some delicious bread pudding and for some reason Aaden has developed an uncontrollable fit of the giggles. I love me a good case of the giggles. He is so flipping cute. Of course Kate is right there scolding him and blaming it all on the sugar. I blame it on just a darn great kid.

More sucking up from Mark about how impressive the kids were, again implying this is all attributed to Kate. Eh, they're not all that impressive. They're mostly just average, with average manners. So is this Matt's full time job, teaching people how to cut meat like ladies and gentlemen and scolding teens for having their iPhones out? Or did they just bring this guy in specially for the Gosselins?

Coming up, looks like they're doing some Hurricane Katrina clean-up. I know it's been a decade since the hurricane but I believe it that there's still work to be done. I went down there for a week to do some clean-up about 18 months after the hurricane and there was still plenty to do. The experience was one I'll never forget, but I also came away with a deep sense of frustration. I found the clean-up efforts disorganized and inefficient. Even though our group was working directly with major organizations like the Red Cross, there were many times where we were sitting around while they tried to figure out where best to send us. We also had to spend time fixing other people's botched efforts, like a playground built by Extreme Makeover that had major drainage problems. The whole thing was just so inept and sad, and it's really sad, though frankly not all that surprising given what I experienced, that ten years later there is still all this work to do. This is unacceptable governmental crawl, at, in my view, state and federal levels, but mostly local.

Okay, fine, I'll recap this comment. Kate has always wanted to do a building project with the kids. Good grief, then just go do it! You don't have to go all the way to New Orleans to get your fix. Look at Habitat for Humanity's web site and find a local weekend project and just go. She's just so helpless.

Day two. They head out to the historic ninth ward, which still looks pretty run down. The reality is much of the population just never came back. I still remember going there and seeing spray paint on the doors of each of the flooded houses, markings from disaster workers indicating what's been cleared from inside. Descriptions like two bodies, three bodies, etc. Chilling, devastating, preventable.

Oh wouldn't you know it, Alexis is miraculously feeling better from her sudden-onset flu. Did it ever occur to Kate that because Alexis is so teased about her manners by her siblings, she was embarrassed to be at an etiquette class and potentially face more ridicule and so quickly worked up some "flu" to stay behind? Poor kid.

They meet up with a guy and girl from Youth Rebuilding, which rebuilds houses just for teachers. That's awesome. Their comments about what's going on here are somewhat vague, which I found typical when I volunteered there, but I think they're saying they still have 40,000 homes left to go through in the 9th ward.

It's rare I agree with Kate, but she too, correctly, thinks it's absurd that there is still so much cleaning up to do here after ten years. Will she delve into why that is, where the failing are, or have any curiosity about this problem at all? Of course not. I myself have a lot of political thoughts about this issue I suppose I should refrain from sharing, but I'm going to anyway. Suffice it to say I do put a huge amount of blame for the snail's pace clean-up efforts on the local government and local disorganization, based primarily on my own experience spending a week there doing clean-up among locals. In fact as far back as 2006 the mayor was under all kinds of fire for the slow efforts even then. You can pour all kinds of money and volunteers at a community, but if they refuse to get organized and implement some efficiency, of course it's going to take ten or more years to get cleaned up. For one, if my organization, which happened to be my school, was made to wait hours and hours while they sorted out something for us to do, how many hundreds of thousands of volunteer hours have been lost over the past ten years because New Orleans couldn't get organized? For another, if an organization is going about a project all wrong such that it will have to be redone from scratch, why didn't someone notice or say something before it was too late? These third-world country clean-up efforts are an outright disgrace and nearly as tragic as the hurricane itself.

Kate apparently doesn't see the irony in her comment that kids can get tunnel vision and only focus on what they need and want. What a two-faced dolt.

They begin painting some interiors. Then, they move to a demolition project. Oh, those are fun! Too much explanation, not enough demo. Finally they hammer into the plaster and have at it. I'm a big fan of introducing kids to volunteer work in a manner that ensures they are having a blast. It lays good foundations for understanding how volunteering can enrich you just as much as those you are helping.

I like Cara's shirt, which looks like a college t-shirt but instead says "Kale." Good one. You can get it at Urban Outfitters. 

Mady says all this volunteer work was fun. Cara picks lint.

Kate is such a freaking jerk. As they are wrapping up the work she thanks the guys from Youth Rebuilding, then says this is good in particular for her kids who forget how good they have it. Um, her kids are standing right there! I understand that's a major motivation behind engaging children in volunteer work, but it's mean to tell people, right in front of your kids no less, that your kids are ungrateful. Even if it were true, would you say that about your adult best friend if she were standing right next to you? Why people think it's okay to make rude and nasty comments about their kids simply because they are kids is beyond me. If you're concerned a child has a real problem with gratitude (one that goes beyond normal childhood development, too) one should speak to them privately about it, or involve a therapist if necessary. Oh, and I'll give Kate a hint. Due in large part to disrespectful comments like that, her kids have little motivation to be grateful. Why try to live up to the expectations of someone who has such little respect for you to begin with?

Also, the kids don't have it that good. They have tons of money and a comfortable upper middle class lifestyle and for that I have always said they should be grateful, but they have also lost their privacy for it, which many are probably going to grow up and resent if some don't already. But, it's important to Kate's daily propaganda the kids have it drilled into them their lives are amazing, mostly due to Kate.

The kids are at that age now where they can actually make a difference, Kate remarks. Yes, they were at that age seven years ago, too.

Kate claims they next ran into an "insectarium" that wasn't part of the plan because it rained that day. She, Kate, not production mind you, researched this all out on the internet. It's just absurd that Kate gives herself full credit for planning activities when there is an incredible amount of work that almost all productions large and small need to do to film in almost any place you can think of that Kate couldn't possibly know how or be capable of doing. Wait, so did they run into it randomly, or did she hunt it down browsing on the internet? Those two statements don't seem consistent. How does a production crew stumble upon something like this with all the permits and releases that are required to film? Why does this woman lie so badly? Why do I hurt my brain trying to make sense of her?

It's another bug place which I feel like they've done at least twice before. I have nothing against bugs but little about this is interesting or worth recapping. The whole time Kate's on the sidelines making this all....about...her, screaming and carrying on and threatening to faint. So just faint already and be done with it, at least then you would finally STFU.

Even Joel and Hannah admit they were really embarrassed by Kate's behavior. She's making a scene (and there's a whole camera crew there) of course they're embarrassed. The rest of the kids seem mortified too. Just ask other kids with mentally ill mothers, it's very embarrassing.

The bug that looks like a leaf is outright wild. It really looks exactly like a leaf. They head to the bug cafe where they are presented with a variety of dishes with bugs in them, like chocolate chip cookies with a cricket in there. More screaming and carrying on from Kate, meanwhile the kids are much more open minded and willing to try. Joel even liked the crickets. The kids call her overly dramatic and are even more embarrassed. Kate's skin is quite bad during this segment, obviously covered up by cakes of foundation. I don't know if that's stress or what.

Now they're holding a baby alligator? That's not a bug. I'm confused. They try to make it seem like this is the happiest day of Alexis's life, but you can tell she's 12 now and alligators don't do it for her quite the same way as they used to. Much like a twelve-year-old is not going to go ga-ga over a T-rex or firetrucks the same way when he was two. It's okay, Alexis.

The museum was a lot better than Kate expected, Kate remarks. Does Kate understand phrasing a comment like that is generally a rude thing to say? I really think her social skills at this point are about a two of 10. She doesn't seem to understand how rude and condescending some of her remarks are. Oh, sure, sometimes I think she's intentionally being an asshat. But other times I think she genuinely thinks she's giving the museum a compliment by saying they are better than expected. She just doesn't understand, and like Carry Ann Inaba, I'm fascinated.


Next up, a cooking class, which is also something they've done at least once before. I guess no one can say she doesn't do her part to reduce, reuse and recycle!

I like the canned New Orleans music they are playing. You know those moments where you have a flashback memory to something you haven't thought of in years? I just had one, to the obscure made-for-T.V. movie The Muppets of Bremen, which was a very clever play off the Grimm fairytale, only set in cajun country. I must have watched it a dozen times as a little kid. Jim Henson was so clever and such a master. Seven hells, I actually found it on Youtube! I love it.

They begin the cooking class by having a little crawfish pealing challenge. The kids enjoy it, and as per the usual Kate is freaking out and claims she has a stomach ache. You know, if you are going to be a cook, unless you're a vegetarian cook only, at least take some responsibility to have some awareness of how your animals get from the farm or wild to the table. Stop acting like Woody Allen and Diane Keaton trying to cook a lobster and be an adult. 

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They divide into teams and make a rue, some shrimp jumbo, and a colorful salad. Yum. At last they dig in. Collin really isn't saying much throughout this segment and never cracks a smile, he just stands around watching his siblings cook. Something is very off there. 

Kate isn't exactly Giada De Laurentiis is she? "That had perfect spice and bite," she remarks. Lol, so descriptive. I'd love to know what she thinks bite means.


Finally they head to the fancy restaurant Galatoire's, which naturally Kate takes full credit for booking. Heh.

Aw, the kids look great all gussied up. The boys look like little Mormons in their white shirts and ties. Cute.

Way to suck all the fun out of a nice restaurant like this by making it a test of their etiquette class. Predictably, the kids immediately start ragging on Alexis, this time about how she eats the bread. Leave Alexis Alone!

The waitresses are being extraordinarily nice to the children, though I question if that's how they are to all children or if this is just because they're celebrities.

Mady and some of the other kids try snails and like them. Mmmm, I like them too. Or maybe I just like the butter and garlic they always drown them in and all the bread dipping I do afterward, heh. 

At the end of the day the kids' manners and even Kate's really aren't that impressive. They have to constantly be reminded to wait until everyone is served, which really should be basic for kids by this age. They also frequently touch their food with their fingers, boss each other around, make dramatic and disgusted faces when they eat something they don't like, and blurt out rude things like "I hate mushrooms!" Kate's had years to help them correct these poor manners, this shouldn't be this much of a struggle. 

They go around the table and talk about what they enjoyed the most. Collin very clearly says he enjoyed the cooking class and insectarium. He seems like a sweet, though frankly, sad little boy. It's hard to believe someone like him needs to be institutionalized. If he does, he sure hides his issues well.

Ha, there's Andrea at the other end of the table just downing wine and bread pudding and not really saying much. It's been a long trip, hasn't it?



Next time, it's so odd that they have never been to the Poconos! The problems of the one percent are often odd. 

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TLC stinks said...

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TLC stinks said...

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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Just the fact that the tweet and photo has been removed tells you that it was her. Who else would have their photo removed? She looked so proud too.


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Agree. There's no reason to quickly swifter something unless they realized they f-ed up and included a Gosselin kid.

You know, this is not the first time this school has accidentally posted photos or videos of the G kids only to quickly swiffer them. For all the money Kate is paying and for all the blah-blahing from some people about how she needs such a private school to protect the kids, they sure are pretty darn careless.

A public school could manage to follow a simple direction not to post photos or info about these kids better than this school. This was a HUGE f-up, worse than all the others before--it outs one of the children as needing intervention and special needs help beyond the normal classroom. Really unforgivable and Kate would actually be justified in being fit to be tied. Of course she might see this as an opportunity to plaster that kids' struggles story all over People and ship her off too, who knows.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Each summer, many children experience some learning loss. However, the “summer slide” disproportionately affects low-income children who may not have the opportunities for formal and informal summer learning at home.


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Or who spend their summer filming activities with questionable educational value then their weekends sitting on the couch talking about it to a camera crew.

CC said...

I too find it hard to believe she would be in a summer program just because I don't see Kate taking her. But she could have someone else drive her. I don't know.

And yes, the low-income criteria is baffling. Maybe they have a paid program also. Or allow some to pay their way in. Maybe it was strongly suggested by the school.

It seems they have a program AT the school, at least this school in particular. Maybe she just has the extra help during the school year. I really don't know.

I saw the tweet was deleted when I went back to copy the caption to post here. I was busy at the time or I would have done it when I first saw it.

Regardless, she WAS in the photo. Unfortunately now we are back to speculating why. LOL.

TLC stinks said...

Makes sense what you say Admin. Comply or Alexis is out.

Tucker's Mom said...

I'm sorry but I don't know any more. I just know it was DEFINITELY her in the photo.
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Kate has always put the kibosh on an school media that shows her children.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


TERRI said... 126

Amusing except Wendy was complicit in shoving the Gosselins down our throats since she had them both as guests.


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As I recall she gave some of the better interviews, asking questions others wouldn't usually ask, and her commentary on her show at other times was very critical of this family's nonsense when few others would be.

She did her part not to follow the cute family with eight kids mantra. She called them out, and did so frequently.

She did her fair part as a talk show host not to just drink the koolaid on this family like a regular Kate Coyne, and for that I'll give her a pass.

Tucker's Mom said...

This also brings up another point. If it includes Saturday intervention, and we often see the marker reveals they are filming couch interviews on SUNDAYS, that means that on those weeks the poor kid never gets a day off. Wtf!
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You bet the kids work weekends. They've been doing that for years. What really is a shame was that huge snow storm last year was usurped by the film crew sticking cameras in their faces.
How people can watch this and not think of their own kids is amazing to me. How would anyone want their kid's life invaded like that?
Anyone who thinks it's worth it for the perks is as selfish and delusional as Kate.

Tucker's Mom said...

Of course she might see this as an opportunity to plaster that kids' struggles story all over People and ship her off too, who knows.
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I think she'll be tempted, but perhaps it got swiffered in time so that Radar doesn't pick it up.

Tucker's Mom said...

Or who spend their summer filming activities with questionable educational value then their weekends sitting on the couch talking about it to a camera crew.
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Hopefully Kate's nanny helps the kids with summer learning. I can't picture Kate leading a book club with the kids.

Tucker's Mom said...

Wendy gives voice to the vast majority of Americans who are beyond sick of Kate Gosselin.

Sue said...

So Brownie names her characters after Gosselins? WTF!

When Kate created her sexy online persona, “Lexi,” she never expected the lies to spin so far out of control. But now one of the biggest rock stars in the world, the brilliant but damaged Oliver Walt, is in love with her, and revealing the truth means not only breaking her own heart but sending the musician into a tailspin from which he might never recover.

Lexi is just the sort of girl a dark and brooding rockstar like Oliver Walt would fall for. Beautiful. Wild. Fun. The only problem?

LEXI IS A LIE

Bookish Kate Green knew she needed to brush up on her social skills before her first year of college, so she created an online persona to chat and flirt. And who better to practice on than talented and tormented rock frontman Oliver Walt? After all, the lead singer of her favorite band would hardly notice one more adoring fan. Except…he does. And with a single private message, Kate’s world changes forever.

Then Oliver wants to meet in person. Kate knows she has to come clean, but things are never that easy, so instead she enlists the aid of her beautiful and calculating study partner…which turns out just the way you might expect. Now, with Gretchen refusing to stop being Lexi, the lies grow bigger by the hour—and so do the stakes. Kate’s heart and Oliver’s life.

Tucker's Mom said...

LEXI IS A LIE

Bookish Kate Green
^^^
That a bit...creepy?
KG? Lexi?

Deliverance said...

She did her fair part as a talk show host not to just drink the koolaid on this family like a regular Kate Coyne, and for that I'll give her a pass.
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It was just another platform for Kate to lie, lie, lie like on every other talk show. So Wendy says something sarcastic about Kate later. Whoopie.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


It was just another platform for Kate to lie, lie, lie like on every other talk show. So Wendy says something sarcastic about Kate later. Whoopie.


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Actually, it wasn't like that. Wendy was quite specific, several times, about exactly what she didn't like about this family and why. It was not a one liner joke and she moved on. Sadly it actually is a big whoop when a talk show host doesn't spend their entire time kissing up to a celebrity and instead calls a spade a spade Few others were doing it, but it was a snowball effect and Wendy absolutely contributed her part to the public largely turning on Kate. One less public figure not kissing up to Kate did make a difference.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Annnnd that's why full disclosure Kate should have admitted that Brownie chick was just some obsessed twitter fan she met on the internet. I always question the children's safety around the fans. How many obsessed fans have to harm or kill celebrities before people recognize it's a bad idea to make contact with them in real life?

Tucker's Mom said...

One less public figure not kissing up to Kate did make a difference.
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Of course it does. Anyone who calls b.s. on the gaslighting is great.
We're all sitting here smelling the stink that wafts out of Kate's mouth whenever she opens it. Her spin is so transparent.

Tucker's Mom said...

It was just another platform for Kate to lie, lie, lie like on every other talk show. So Wendy says something sarcastic about Kate later. Whoopie.
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The goos news is that there are far fewer platforms for Kate to pimp her kids and give her spin and hate on Jon.
She hasn't darkened the doors of The View in years now. Even Amy Robach had a "wtf?" look on her face when she was asking about Collin.
Sitting across from Kate grinning about knowing where Collin is, and no one else does, even his father, must have been surreal.

Deliverance said...

Actually, it wasn't like that. Wendy was quite specific, several times, about exactly what she didn't like about this family and why. It was not a one liner joke and she moved on. Sadly it actually is a big whoop when a talk show host doesn't spend their entire time kissing up to a celebrity and instead calls a spade a spade Few others were doing it, but it was a snowball effect and Wendy absolutely contributed her part to the public largely turning on Kate. One less public figure not kissing up to Kate did make a difference.
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You must have seen a different show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2RYphTEGRo

Kate Gosselin on Wendy Williams

Kate's lies:

"The truth is I'm calm, I'm logical, I'm rational and I wouldn't have gotten involved in my 14 yr old's drama......"

on, I don't ho"I move ld grudges against people, I don't have it in me."

"No I don't (hold grudges against Jon). I wish him well. Let him live his life and be happy."

And the usual blather about rumors about Steve that Kate dispelled, of course.

Tucker's Mom said...

"No I don't (hold grudges against Jon). I wish him well. Let him live his life and be happy."
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Jeebus, it's amazing lightning didn't strike her.

Deliverance said...

Tucker's Mom said... 21
"No I don't (hold grudges against Jon). I wish him well. Let him live his life and be happy."
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I know! And the calm, rational bit???

Every time she gets on TV she spouts these lies and people are more than happy to believe them. Anyone who gives her a platform to spew such lies gets no high fives from me, no matter what they say later.
Jeebus, it's amazing lightning didn't strike h

Carole said...

Sue said... 13
So Brownie names her characters after Gosselins? WTF!

When Kate created her sexy online persona, “Lexi,” ...

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This is copied from where?

Deliverance said...

This is copied from where?

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They're quotes from the link I included in my post #20:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2RYphTEGRo

Deliverance said...

I ignore my comment #24. I thought it was directed to me.

Carole said...

Deliverance said... 24
This is copied from where?

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They're quotes from the link I included in my post #20:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2RYphTEGRo

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I'm confused.
Deliverance, your link is for a Wendy Williams show and the copy/paste @ #13 that I was asking Sue about read like it was from a book or an article from somewhere.
Sue said... 13
"So Brownie names her characters after Gosselins? WTF!

When Kate created her sexy online persona, “Lexi,” she never expected the lies to spin so far out of control. But now one of the biggest rock stars in the world, the brilliant but damaged Oliver Walt, is in love with her, and... "

Layla said...

The Horizons program may be in place for low-income students, but I bet parents of higher-income, at-risk kids can also get their kids into it. They could just pay the fee themselves. It would be ridiculous to have a program like that in place and to exclude any child who needed the extra help.

Kate sure is pushing their love of all hinges Australia/ NZ lately, isn't she? Makes me wonder if the super fun 13th birthday idea might just be a repeat trip Down Under (courtesy of TLC, of course). She always has an ulterior motive, and is getting her pal Kate Coyne to help sell the idea.

Sue said...

Carole said... 23
Sue said... 13
So Brownie names her characters after Gosselins? WTF!

When Kate created her sexy online persona, “Lexi,” ...
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This is copied from where?
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The description of what the book is about directly from Amazon.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

This new information about A may also explain why she never seems to be with
Jon on the weekends -- she has a school commitment every Saturday. But rather than admitting that, TFW would rather people assume A is just one more child who has chosen to ignore "New Daddy" and stay at home with the bestest mommy ever.

Rainbowsandunicorns said...

The goos news is that there are far fewer platforms for Kate to pimp her kids and give her spin and hate on Jon.

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Tucker's, no offense but I had to smile at this typo. The goos news about the Goslings?

Rainbowsandunicorns said...

Sue said... 13
So Brownie names her characters after Gosselins? WTF!

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Yes, I remember when I first read it, I thought WTF, too. An obsessed fan, serial (pun) stalker trying to get close to Kate. I guess she finally succeeded.

PA Dutch Mom said...

admin said, "For all the money Kate is paying and for all the blah-blahing from some people about how she needs such a private school to protect the kids, they sure are pretty darn careless."

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Oops, I guess I need to duck-tape (or is it duct-tape) my mouth and not blab, blah or bleat. I'm not saying a word, not one gosh-darn word about the school nor the program. Signing off for now! Gotta check my schnitz und knepp.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

PA Dutch Mom (#32), I appreciate your respect for the G kids. As curious
as I am about the situation, I have no interest in compromising what little privacy they have.

Tucker's Mom said...

8, 2017 at 5:19 PM

FlimsyFlamsy said... 33

PA Dutch Mom (#32), I appreciate your respect for the G kids. As curious 
as I am about the situation, I have no interest in compromising what little privacy they have.
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My sense has been that the school has bent over backwards, sideways and pretzel shaped for the kids all these years. Overall I think they've done a great job and the fact that it's been 10 years and the kids have good privacy in that school is a great thing.
Same goes for the school community.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


My sense has been that the school has bent over backwards, sideways and pretzel shaped for the kids all these years. Overall I think they've done a great job and the fact that it's been 10 years and the kids have good privacy in that school is a great thing.
Same goes for the school community.

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I think they are earnest in trying to protect them, but they've still let loose a few whoppers of mistakes that just shouldn't have happened. We have seen, several times in the past, pictures and videos of the kids posted, then swiffered. This latest incident is just one. There was a Vimeo account the school had they left WIDE OPEN that included several of the Gosselin kids. When alerted, it went private. It is not hard to make a Vimeo account private, yet someone at the school couldn't figure that out.

There were the shocking letters that got leaked from the school about all the issues with the children. Granted, someone who received the letter could have leaked it, but a school who is truly being protective would have come up with a better system to communicate with parents and providers that wouldn't result in something as easy as a letter being scanned and sent to the internet.

There was a FB group from parents of the school complaining about the security of the kids, that it ruined the school--by splashing their complaints on FB, they have effectively outted the children as going there. The school could have insisted they take the complaints directly to the school, not FB, and not expose the kids like that on FB.

The very fact that we even know what school they go to and all their problems at that school is a lapse.

And then, there's very detailed comments like this, which clearly came from an insider staff IN the school as she says "us". This is not being discreet about the children: "Sources say faculty and staff have had to attend meetings with Gosselin bodyguards. Once, a bodyguard led a "tour" around campus, pointing out spots where paparazzi might hide. On another occasion, said a source, faculty and staff were required to attend a meeting to Skype (a type of online video conferencing) with a Gosselin bodyguard "so he could tell us how to behave." It's outrageous a staff member would talk to the media like that.

Celebrity kids have gone to public schools for 13 years without a single picture, interview or video ever posted of them. The kids I nannied for did six years in public school without anyone exposing them to the public, and 7 years in private school without anyone exposing them to the public. There's no reason LCDS can't do the same. They have not. It doesn't matter that they were perfectly protective 364 days a year, the one day they were not blows it. It is what it is, there's really no argument here they have not fucked up. If Kate has the kids here to be discreet, that was an epic fail--she might as well have sent them to Webster Elementary public school for free, the school I took the kids I nannied to, and none of this ever would have been leaked.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 35

My sense has been that the school has bent over backwards, sideways and pretzel shaped for the kids all these years. Overall I think they've done a great job and the fact that it's been 10 years and the kids have good privacy in that school is a great thing.
Same goes for the school community.

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I think they are earnest in trying to protect them, but they've still let loose a few whoppers of mistakes that just shouldn't have happened
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Leave it to the lawyer to find the perfect word to describe it!
;-)
Yes, earnest school and earnest community, and for that, I hope Kate knows how lucky she is and how grateful she should be.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#37), TFW would never feel lucky or grateful for anything. Because her golden platter children deserve golden platter treatment. Gratitude is for the mediocre.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Leave it to the lawyer to find the perfect word to describe it!
;-)
Yes, earnest school and earnest community, and for that, I hope Kate knows how lucky she is and how grateful she should be.


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I will say this, I know she must be a nightmare for that school. Her demands and such. I'm sure it's easier to keep your mouth shut and be protective when the celebrity parents are polite and easy to accommodate, like Pam Anderson was at Webster Elementary. At a certain point I get it, you just want to blurt to the media all the crap you had to do to accommodate Heir D-lister Kate. At a certain point, your mouse slips and you post a picture of her kid who has to go to school on Saturdays (and film on Sundays) "on accident."

TLC stinks said...

Flimsy, I agree. Kate would rather have people think Alexis "chooses" to not see her dad, like big sister Mady.

Formerly Duped said...

This is yet another way Alexis is feeling alienated from her sisters as well as her father.I'm sure it's a good program of course.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


This is yet another way Alexis is feeling alienated from her sisters as well as her father.I'm sure it's a good program of course.


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Going through the episodes this season for the recaps and it's unbelievable how picked on that poor kid is. Bullied, pushed around, teased, made fun of. The boys as usual don't seem to be the usual perps.

Just in the Puppies episode Alexis was making a cute comment about how all her horse did was put his head down and eat, to which Hannah quipped, just like you!

The hell! That's not funny. It's CRUEL. And I don't see a single effort from Kate to get them to knock it off. If anything, Kate contributes.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#41), TFW has always seemed to relish sowing division amongst the kids.
I think in her mind it lets her off the hook as an enemy, because they have each other to hate and criticize. Oh, also, she's just a piss poor parent, and can't be bothered to correct them when they're unkind to each other.
Unless it's one of those camera-ready, afterschool-special teachable moments, which come off as organic as a container of fat-free Coffeemate.

Jeanne said...

I have to have sympathy for any LCDS personnel who had to sit through a Skype session with Steve. Why do I have a feeling he's condescending and pretentious? I doubt he even knows what he's talking about, considering the lapses he has allowed over the years. So the Paps can hide. LCDS does not have the people to patrol the outside and no authority to get rid of them if they stay on public sidewalks or across the street. I suppose they could be more careful with social media but around here schools have public FB pages and newsletters that have pics of events. It's easy to forget one parent is a raging lunatic.

TLC stinks said...

You can bet her sisters call her "stupid" too because she attends those classes.

I noticed in all the couch interviews that her sisters tend to sit away from her. (Remember Kate's body language with Jon on the couch at the end?) Geez, I cannot imagine being ostracized in your home. Such stress! Your home should be your safe place.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

TLC stinks (#44), and I would bet poor A is well aware that her brother was also set apart for a while before he was actually removed from the house. And has been gone, what, about 9 months now? Talk about stress for that girl. And since she doesn't see her father, he can't even allay her worries.

TFW could write #HappyKids every single day -- it won't convince me that that house isn't a powder keg of stress, discomfort and unexpressed emotions. She is a horrible mother.

Lanc Native said...

LCDS does not have the people to patrol the outside and no authority to get rid of them if they stay on public sidewalks or across the street.

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Jeanne, there are no public sidewalks where the paps could hang out. The only sidewalks there are at the school and located on private school property, and the surrounding area is also owned by the school. To do so, they would have to plant themselves in private yards, and in that case they would be trespassing. All it would take to have them removed would be a call to law enforcement from the home owners. There is no place for paps to hide, but at this point, Kate and the kids are no longer worth their while; they are history and paps wouldn't waste their time when there isn't a big windfall in it for them.

What ever happened to Chris, the fellow she would call with her Target trips and gas pumps alerts? Has he moved on to others?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The paps couldn't get on the school property but we saw countless photos from the bus stop. Every day was open season for those poor kids and the photographers who hounded them for that semi-brief 12-18 months or so.

It's pretty basic for a school to make arrangements for celebrity kids not to have to be in a public place for drop offs and pick ups like that, especially if there are photographers showing up every darn day. Basic.

Susan1956 said...

Herr D-Lister Kate.

Hee, hee/

NJGal51 said...

It's pretty basic for a school to make arrangements for celebrity kids not to have to be in a public place for drop offs and pick ups like that, especially if there are photographers showing up every darn day. Basic.
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IMO it's not up to the school to have to provide private transportation or a different pick up/drop off for the Gosselins. It's up to TFW to get them there. I really believe that she contacted some of he paps - why else would she have hair and makeup done when she's just going home and back to bed.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


IMO it's not up to the school to have to provide private transportation or a different pick up/drop off for the Gosselins. It's up to TFW to get them there.

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I agree with that, it's not up to the school. The school doesn't have to do anything to protect their privacy, actually, any more than a regular student.

But, if they're going to do so, and if they're going to be lauded as very protective of the family by people here, then let's be honest about all their lapses. The bus stop is a lapse and a problem. They have not dotted all their i's and crossed their t's on this privacy issue. Now maybe, they don't want to. Maybe they feel like they will make the efforts they are able to make but no more beyond that. But let's call a spade a spade and admit that they have not been completely protective of these kids, whether by actual choice, accident, f-up, whatever. It's mall security level here, not Baron Trump level security.

swingsandroundabouts said...

While I agree that the kids' school should do what they can to protect the G kids, let us not forget that their own mother has called out the paps on many occasions while she had them all in tow. Let us not forget that she is the one who wants to control the narrative of their lives, and no one else will make money from them except her. Let us not forget that she herself agreed to a People story to tell the world that she had to get special care for Collin. There she was in People, absolutely delighted with herself and glorying in the publicity.

I agree with Flimsy, she is a horrible mother.

My heart also goes out to Alexis, who apparently is not being protected by TFW. So for TFW to expect extra protection from the school, which I agree with BTW, is more than a little ironic.

TLC stinks said...

If Kate did not want paps taking pictures at the bus stop, she should have driven them to school and picked them up. Obviously, she wanted the publicity.

At this point, I do not believe the school needs to continue to protect these kids any more than any other child that attends.

Tucker's Mom said...

TLC stinks said... 52
If Kate did not want paps taking pictures at the bus stop, she should have driven them to school and picked them up. Obviously, she wanted the publicity.

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And she wants the publicity all for herself.
In Robert's book, Kate complains about another mother who offered to help her at the bus stop. She basically accused the woman of wanting to get in on the pap photos!

Tucker's Mom said...

TFW could write #HappyKids every single day -- it won't convince me that that house isn't a powder keg of stress, discomfort and unexpressed emotions. She is a horrible mother.
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The stressors that those children have experienced are monumental.
Parents fighting.
Divorce.
Complete lack of co-parenting leading to zero cohesiveness between households.
Parents constantly bickering to the press.
Children expelled from school.
Brother sent away, basically cast out of the home.

I'd be a bucket of stress.

On top of all of that, their mother refuses to give them privacy and continues to pimp them out on a reality show and in all forms of media.
Yet, we're supposed to believe it doesn't affect them negatively.
Right.

Tucker's Mom said...

Jeanne said... 43
I have to have sympathy for any LCDS personnel who had to sit through a Skype session with Steve. Why do I have a feeling he's condescending and pretentious? I doubt he even knows what he's talking about, considering the lapses he has allowed over the years.
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Steve is a glorified sherpa.
If I ever thought that Kate's relationship with Steve was strictly employer/employee, that would have gone out the window when she didn't kick him to the curb for letting her computer/disks get into the hands of Robert.
How incompetent was that?
It is basic Security 101 to have your trash disposed of privately so that it's never there for people to freely help themselves to.

And this guy boasted about guarding a POTUS?

LOL.

Tucker's Mom said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 42
Admin (#41), TFW has always seemed to relish sowing division amongst the kids.
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Kate always crows about "her" family working together, but she seems to enjoy sowing division and loves pitting them against each other.
Jeez, when I saw a girl tup attack her brother after gaga ball, I was stunned! She went from smiling to raging in 0.5 seconds.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


TLC stinks said... 52
If Kate did not want paps taking pictures at the bus stop, she should have driven them to school and picked them up. Obviously, she wanted the publicity.


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Exactly. She doesn't work. She could make the trip. And, if the school were truly interested in being fully protective of the children's privacy on their watch (and I'm not sure that they are) the school could have insisted the children be brought door to door. They're a private school, they can insist on whatever they want. Don't like it, you don't have to go there.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Let's call a spade a spade and acknowledge that this is another one of your pathetic attempts to stir controversy because your blog comments have slowed down.


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Lol, correct. Says comment number 400-something. Let's make it to 800 today let's do this!

*Eye roll* nobody cares.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It's abundantly clear that division among the children is to her benefit and that she would prefer it. The older they get, the greater the risk they could band together. Heck, she's like a prison warden, making sure nobody gets too cozy with each other and starts getting ideas. If I actually saw even the slightest effort on her part to foster collaboration among her children and try to shut down the constant conflict and in many cases stop encouraging it herself, I might actually believe she wants her children to get along.

I find her parenting in this area to be nearly as tragic as her alienation of Jon. Someday, their siblings are going to be all...they....have. What a crying shame if they resent each other into adulthood and can't become close because of how she interfered with their chance to develop healthy relationships.

Tucker's Mom said...

Let's call a spade a spade and acknowledge that this is another one of your pathetic attempts to stir controversy because your blog comments have slowed down.
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Admin could have easily gone with shock value at any point over the years. She's stuck to her rules and we've had great conversations, no matter the rate of commenting.
Fact is, it's buttheads like this that have slowed the commenting down a tad. We can't comment live and have to be moderated because of vile, spewing haters like you!

Tucker's Mom said...

I find her parenting in this area to be nearly as tragic as her alienation of Jon. Someday, their siblings are going to be all...they....have. What a crying shame if they resent each other into adulthood and can't become close because of how she interfered with their chance to develop healthy relationships.
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It makes me so fearful for Collin. His relationship with his siblings has been jeopardized by removing him from his home, from his family.
The bonds he has are now in danger. How will his brothers and sisters receive him, IF he ever comes back?
In the not too distant future, the poor boy will be gone a year.
Kate has made it abundantly clear that people are disposable. They go away and life goes on like nothing happened.
She has modeled this behavior for them all of their lives. I can't help but think that some of the children will adopt that cavalier attitude about their siblings.
Some of them already have about their own father!

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 59
It's abundantly clear that division among the children is to her benefit and that she would prefer it.
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I have an uncle like this. He sowed division amongst my 6 cousins from very early on. He had favorites and that caused factions to be formed among the kids.
His favoritism continues to his golden children's children.
I never realized what a narc he was until learning on this blog.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I also think there's an element of her mental illness where she likes to paw at the kids, like a cat paws at a half-dead mouse, and watch them squirm, be upset, have conflict. It feels good to her in much the same way kids who get along and love each other feels good to a normal parent. Unlike a normal person, peace and serenity really isn't something she's after even if she claims to be. I find this to be exceedingly common in the mentally ill, in that that unlike normal wired people, they actually do better where there is conflict around them or when they are creating conflict. It does not matter the long term damage she is doing, it's about that moment and how good it makes her feel to paw and cause problems. It couldn't be more obvious she is mentally ill.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I.e., Kate is a troll to her own children. She is a living breathing internet troll. Only toward her own kids.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 63
I also think there's an element of her mental illness where she likes to paw at the kids, like a cat paws at a half-dead mouse, and watch them squirm, be upset, have conflict.
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To wit: Kate getting her "knight in shining armor", aka, a real psycho, to do her bidding and "take down" her haters.
I think she loves to see people squirm, too.
I think Kate loved it when her lawyers were sent to put Admin in her place.
I believe it stems from a deep-seated illness which involves not having the ability to empathize with others. I don't think Kate has the ability to feel for other people.
If they suffer, she literally feels nothing.

TLC stinks said...

Steve may no longer be "Uncle Steve" these days. After all, it was reported he has to testify in the custody hearing. Unless he lies, he's dead to her, don't you think?

I agree with Tucker's Mom that LCDS has bent over backwards for this family. This slip up with the tweet, which I believe was unattentional, proves Kate does not tell the truth when it comes to her children's academic and social well-being. All her kids are straight A students so the filming is not disruptive to their education, right? She's been outed about one tup. Wonder if the others struggle too.

Tucker's Mom said...

TLC stinks said... 66
Steve may no longer be "Uncle Steve" these days. After all, it was reported he has to testify in the custody hearing. Unless he lies, he's dead to her, don't you think?
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I would love it if this is definitely true. I'd love to see people put on the stand and tell the truth about what really happens behind that sh*t show.

I can't imagine that most if not all of the children struggle. It appears the 2 remaining boys who see Jon are adjusting better. They seem happy and have a good outlook on life.
None of the girls seem this way to me.
Again, they are at high risk on so many levels.

TLC stinks said...

Duh. Unintentional.

GollyGee said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 63
I also think there's an element of her mental illness where she likes to paw at the kids, like a cat paws at a half-dead mouse, and watch them squirm, be upset, have conflict. It feels good to her in much the same way kids who get along and love each other feels good to a normal parent.

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Admin, purr-fect example of how TFW loves to do the kids!

This truly is a sadistic act that she does over and over and over again on a regular basis. It truly is a sign of how deeply, mentally ill she is.

She never has a good day, mentally good day ever. She is ALWAYS in an uproar, gripping, beefing about something that is not worth worrying about.

I remember reading that when Robert (years ago) when the kids were much smaller, was at the local park, he saw TFW with all the kids, another lady with her 2 or 3 kids and they were at the playground, having a great time.

Robert said that she was calm, and NICE and letting the kids run around, she was pushing them on the swings like a NORMAL MOM! He also mentioned that she had to have taken her meds that day.

I have tried to find it in Roberts book, but haven't been able to. I would of had to have read it there, because I don't know where else I could of read it.

Formerly Duped said...

Just from what I have seen on the show and Jon stating Collin was the brightest tup, I think they run the gamut of smarts. I remember one girl helped a boy tup with chnage in a store in Maine I think? The boys seem to have vocab issues in the couch interviews or is it just me? One did not know what a century was quite recently.However to me Alexis seems quite sharp so who knows. Could be a variety of factors at play including stress and family dynamics which can make a child be unable to focus on schoolwork.

I agree the school has done plenty for these kids. and really, they shouldn't be expected to provide a Golden Platter!

Dmasy said...

I read here every day.

I don't comment very often. Since I haven't watched any of the recent shows, my comments would be (at best) second hand opinions.

I trust in your observations and conclusions.

I truly believe that Kate is a "damaged" woman who stresses her children. As they mature, they will have to learn to cope with and rise above the legacy she has spewed upon them.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Kate Gosselin stan ‏@itsmyIife 56m56 minutes ago
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@Kateplusmy8 How do you raise eight kids and be a single woman in philly ?

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Kate isn't in Philly, but how would it be different than being a single woman in Reading/Wernersville? :)

Tucker's Mom said...


Robert said that she was calm, and NICE and letting the kids run around, she was pushing them on the swings like a NORMAL MOM! He also mentioned that she had to have taken her meds that day.

I have tried to find it in Roberts book, but haven't been able to. I would of had to have read it there, because I don't know where else I could of read it.
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Yes, Kate was very happy on one occasion that Robert observed her. She was actually playing WITH her kids.
He noted it was very rare that she interacted on their level.

Tucker's Mom said...

I truly believe that Kate is a "damaged" woman who stresses her children. As they mature, they will have to learn to cope with and rise above the legacy she has spewed upon them.
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Kate has thought nothing of parentifying her kids, and has burdened them with her problems all of their lives.
In fact, their show is a duty that the kids have been strapped with since they were 3. The kids are fully aware of their job to support themselves because their mother has cried poor since before they were born.

Tucker's Mom said...

Could be a variety of factors at play including stress and family dynamics which can make a child be unable to focus on schoolwork.
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Kate has never made it a priority to allow the kids to focus just on school and growing up-being kids.
There's always to next episode to shoot, the next travel for work, the next photo shoot.
Simply put, Kate invites chaos.

Tucker's Mom said...

I truly believe that Kate is a "damaged" woman who stresses her children. As they mature, they will have to learn to cope with and rise above the legacy she has spewed upon them.
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I also think she enjoys manipulating people and seeing what she can get away with. I think she takes great pride in it.
My God, when she can find someone else to do her work for her, it's a bitch-fest.
Whaa!! I have to grill now! Whaa!

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate Gosselin stan ‏@itsmyIife 1h1 hour ago
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@Kateplusmy8 How do you raise eight kids and be a single woman in philly ?
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Huh? I don't know, Kate. Why don't you find a REAL single mother of 8, doing it without millions of dollars and a litany of help AND a father of her children in the picture?

JoyinVirginia said...

Just checking in to say hi! Saturday afternoon I spent watching my neighbors three children, 6, 8 and 10. Fun times with fun kids! We baked cookies, and it was no trouble cleaning up the little mess they made. Sorry TFMJG is just as boring and self centered as ever.

JoyinVirginia said...

Just checking in to say hi! Saturday afternoon I spent watching my neighbors three children, 6, 8 and 10. Fun times with fun kids! We baked cookies, and it was no trouble cleaning up the little mess they made. Sorry TFMJG is just as boring and self centered as ever.

Tucker's Mom said...

JoyinVirginia said... 79
Just checking in to say hi! Saturday afternoon I spent watching my neighbors three children, 6, 8 and 10. Fun times with fun kids! We baked cookies, and it was no trouble cleaning up the little mess they made. Sorry TFMJG is just as boring and self centered as ever.
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Did you put the kabosh on all the fun and yell at them to not get a GRANULE of sugar on the floor?
Dh and I did a bit of baking yesterday- Pretzel Cowboy Cookies.

Blowing In The Wind said...

TLC stinks said... 66
Steve may no longer be "Uncle Steve" these days. After all, it was reported he has to testify in the custody hearing. Unless he lies, he's dead to her, don't you think?

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Where was this reported, and by whom? There are so many rumors out there, so much speculation, that one just doesn't know fact from fiction. When is this custody hearing, or trial, or whatever it is?

Blowing In The Wind said...

lil izzy ‏@isaurahjustiine 19h19 hours ago
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@charlene_m22 @Kateplusmy8 please send her all your seasons on DVD as a reward after acing tomorrow's exam

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I'm sure that Kate will get right on that, as soon as she finishes Nicole's book that's been on Kate's bedside table for what...two years? Three years?

Sad but true said...

TLC stinks said... 66
Steve may no longer be "Uncle Steve" these days. After all, it was reported he has to testify in the custody hearing. Unless he lies, he's dead to her, don't you think?
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I don't think it would be possible for him to tell the unvarnished truth. After all, he PROFITS from what Kate has wrought. Is he really going to blow up his own bread and butter? I don't think so. I also think Kate has ingrained in him the general disdain and loathing she has for Jon. So it's not likely he'd ever say anything (except unwittingly) that would hurt her case for keeping complete control of the kids. Perjury notwithstanding.

Sue said...

I don't think it would be possible for him to tell the unvarnished truth. After all, he PROFITS from what Kate has wrought. Is he really going to blow up his own bread and butter? I don't think so. I also think Kate has ingrained in him the general disdain and loathing she has for Jon. So it's not likely he'd ever say anything (except unwittingly) that would hurt her case for keeping complete control of the kids. Perjury notwithstanding.
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Yes, but who is he loyal to? TLC, Figure 8 or K8? If he's working on other shows for TLC he just may be a little more loyal to them and if they're willing to through K8 under the bus he'll go right along with them. He's an opportunist.

Sad but true said...

Sue said... 84

I think he's got more going on with K8 than just being her purse-boy/bodyguard. I think they might have invested in something together. No proof, just a feeling. We did see all that paperwork back when the divorce was being processed, it sure seemed like they were financially somewhat "entwined." But who knows? Bottom line, my guess is he's paid by TLC when they're filming or doing promotion, and paid by K8 the rest of the time. Where (or whether) there's any loyalty involved I'd say is a toss-up. He doesn't not strike me as a particularly ethical person one way or the other. Opportunist is probably the best descriptor for what we know about him.

Midnight Madness said...

. Perjury notwithstanding.
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Yes, but who is he loyal to? TLC, Figure 8 or K8? If he's working on other shows for TLC he just may be a little more loyal to them and if they're willing to through K8 under the bus he'll go right along with them. He's an opportunist.

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I think that in his case, perjury would not be worth the risk, regardless to whom you are loyal. If he omits, fibs or just downplays everything, and others testify, he will get found out, and with a perjury indictment, there goes his credibility, and potential future employment opportunities. I really don't think that he would be stupid enough to do that, but one just never knows.

Tucker's Mom said...

Opportunist is probably the best descriptor for what we know about him.
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I'd add fellow grifter and interloper.

ncgirl said...

"When is this custody hearing, or trial, or whatever it is?"

I posted an article recently that said it will be as soon as possible whatever that means. This was according to an insider. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4137310/Kate-Gosselin-forces-insane-rules-kids.html

Another article mentions that Steve may have to testify according to sources.
http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/kate-gosselin-bodyguard-tell-all-121070

NJGal51 said...

Another article mentions that Steve may have to testify according to sources.
http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/kate-gosselin-bodyguard-tell-all-121070
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Well he'd better marry her so he can't be compelled to testify against his wife...that or plead the 5th because if he saw abuse and didn't try to intervene he just as guilty as she is.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I've been out all day, and came home to my internet being down, so I'm just catching up on today's comments. I enjoyed the sassy comment to Admin about her pathetic blog. Which this person can't quit. Lent is coming soon -- maybe that'll be a good time for this poster to wean herself off of us.

Tucker's Mom (#61), what will make C's return (if, as you say, it even happens) indescribably painful will be that there is filmed evidence that his absence seemingly was of no consequence to his family. The tups' birthday party not only went on as planned, but his mother tweeted that it was their BEST PARTY EVER! Trip after trip, activity after activity -- fun fun fun! Even
as an adult, wouldn't that be your worst nightmare? That you are not only not missed, but that things are even better
when you're not around?

Sad but true said...

Did anybody here actually read the In Touch article supposedly in the current magazine that talks about the gag order being lifted? The one GoKingDaddy mentioned on Twitter? I am curious to know if there's any real new info in there.

Over In TFW's County said...

If Kate did not want paps taking pictures at the bus stop, she should have driven them to school and picked them up. Obviously, she wanted the publicity.

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Some of it might have been because of publicity, but I bet the main reason is because of the drive. It would be a two-hour round trip in the morning, and another two hours at the end of the day. It's not a fun drive and traffic can get nasty.

Yes, she's lazy, but I wouldn't last too long doing that. After a month or so, I'd be pulling out my hair.

NJGal51 said...

Some of it might have been because of publicity, but I bet the main reason is because of the drive. It would be a two-hour round trip in the morning, and another two hours at the end of the day. It's not a fun drive and traffic can get nasty.
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Single mothers do it every day to get their kids to day care/school and then get themselves to work and then do it again at the end of the day. Nope, not gonna feel sorry for TFW over this. She chooses to send them to this school.

Jeanne said...

I have to agree with NJGal. She chose to send them there. There are lots of private schools with varying travel distances. I don't know why she chose LCDS. But when the twins started, wasn't the show on an upswing? Then it was popular when the tups started. She could have paid someone to drive them there if she wanted. She likes the bus being pretty close. I think it's too much to expect a school to come up with lots of special solutions to the problem of the G kids. It should mostly be up to Kate.

BTW: I missed the controversy. Were we fighting?

Jeanne said...

The playground story that I'm familiar with in Robert's book is in a chapter called Good Mom. I looked. My Kindle app says something like 8059 out 1400 something. Sorry, no real page number I can find.

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