Tuesday, December 27, 2016

Discussion Thread: Beach Time! 12/27/2016

Beach Time!
Kate and the kids explore the Alabama beach shores during summer vacation! Kayaking, parasailing and a family Segway tour are in the mix and of course, there is always chaos! Then the Gosselins' head back home to train their adorable puppies. 60 Min. |

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Carole said...

Think about all the behind-the-scenes help TFW has. Steve watches over her and helps her navigate airports and crowds. TLC pays the tab for the activities, as well as paying a salary to TFW for the episodes. Production assistants handle the details of booking flights and getting locations cleared and releases signed. The crew daddies help keep an eye on the kids. What the heck then is TFW's huge burden exactly, other than her own toxic personality?

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TFW's burden is the unnecessary extra work and stress she puts herself and her children through.

When we've rented a home for a week's vacation and planned to cook some meals and eat some out, I didn't bring every single thing with me so that the frig was as stocked as if I was still at home. Nope, we cooked simpler meals and bought local fresh produce, seafood, etc. It's vacation for goodness sake, you're there to relax, not work. Unless you're TFW and need to maintain the martyr image. TFW? Good heavens, on one of the trips this season when she unloaded the coolers (I saw at least 3) and they were so full of small individual bags of greens I had to SMH.
And, the lists and notes she writes...
And the instructions she feels she must give to the kids... who have probably been hearing the exact same thing for years.
TFW's burden is TFW and IMO she's made herself a burden to her children, too.

Localyocul said...

So now TMZ is saying Debbie Reynolds has died. I can't even...

Tucker's Mom said...

Did Kate pack food to take to Alabama?

Tucker's Mom said...

RIP Debbie Reynolds.
My heart just breaks.

Kate's Fetid Soul said...

Good grief! Debbie Reynolds is gone too?
RIP Debbie & Carrie.
2016 has taken too many people- ENOUGH ALREADY.

Jane said...

Oh no, Debbie Reynolds has died! Enough with 2016.

Carole said...

What?! I thought the husband was a professional of some sort, an engineer maybe? He's going to throw over his career for them to open an exercise studio? Where he will no doubt be the manager and probably run it into the ground in a couple of years? If they're borrowing against their home to do this, a home they already couldn't afford, well, that's just insane.

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There are a total of 3 young couples with families who went in on this business. The buy-in was $350,000 split 3 ways which is a big risk for any family. The Busby's talked to a financial adviser who told them getting a home equity loan was a smart idea. I've been told and have heard many business advisers tell others to never borrow against your home to finance a business because if or when the business fails (50% of new businesses fail), you could lose your home along with the business. But, the Busby's think this is the way they're going to pay for their daughters' educations. And, the mom thinks she can be the hands on person for the business - in between taking care of 6 children, of course.

I noticed all of the quints dressed in matching outfits and I flashed back to the Gosselin's in their new matching outfits on every episode. I wondered if they're "working" the stores the way TFW did or if they're actually buying their children's clothes themselves. And then I snapped back into reality and realized they've been working social media for a very long time and they know the ins and outs of grifting and PR better than TFW did at this stage of the game.

Sad but true said...

MARIE ‏@MY_BORDERCOLLIE 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Looking back now aren't you proud you parasailed? I loved it the first time I did and screamed like crazy it was so much fun!

MARIE ‏@MY_BORDERCOLLIE 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 I had so much fun I've parasailed a number of times only now I take a water proof camera and take awesome pictures while up.

OMG, the hole-in-her-heart lady is back! And now she claims she goes PARASAILING? As in currently? With BP of 300/225? This is some really weird shit right here.

Sad but true said...

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@Kateplusmy8 Kate, do you watch Outdaughtered? If not, you should! Your kids would love watching another set of multiples.

Yeah, but K8 wouldn't. Kids would have to stand ready with the smelling salts if it looks like the Busbys are getting more than K8.

ncgirl said...

"Purse boy was in the boat when they were parasailing. And she was busting out of her top."

Purse boy has to check out the boobs he helped her pick.

The tweets are more entertaining than the show. Also, I have anxiety and phobias, and I have to downplay it because it's embarrassing and I don't want to ruin the fun. Kate's a sham.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

"Purse boy was in the boat when they were parasailing. And she was busting out of her top."

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Well, you know that Milo is singing, "Kate Is Bustin' Out All Over..."

Sad but true said...

Milo of course has to ask questions about the braces.

miloandjack2016 LOL. Well the #BracesBudget lives on! I know its been a small fortune $$ spent for thosr #GosselinSmiles. But WELL WORTH IT! @kateplusmy8

miloandjack2016 #NoFearAaden is up next I suspect. The #TakeThemOff party is more fun! How long will his be on? @kateplusmy8

I haven't seen all that many #GosselinSmiles on recent programs. A small fortune indeed, but my guess is that each kid has paid for her/his own dental work. Finally, a boy is getting them. Joel clearly needs them as well. I wonder if Collin will be getting them, or if all his money is committed to his "special" school.

Anonymous said...

It's about time one of the boys got braces!

RIP Debbie Reynolds. Unbelievable.

-ajw

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

OMG, the hole-in-her-heart lady is back! And now she claims she goes PARASAILING? As in currently? With BP of 300/225? This is some really weird shit right here.

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I thought it was higher than that. Maybe she got a heart transplant. Isn't this the one that used the avatar of someone else and claimed it was her photo?

Did anyone ask her if Brad Pitt goes parasailing with her, or if she keeps him locked up in her basement?

Kate's fans are some strange bunch, aren't they?

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

RIP Debbie Reynolds.
My heart just breaks.

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I just saw that. So sad. I recently watched her old Tammy movie and thought that she was so pretty back then.

Sad but true said...

It's very hard to believe this is not ironic, in light of the past few episodes.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2m2 minutes ago
As a #SingleMom you have been doing this for years! Encouraging you to continue to do your best! ❤️ @kateplusmy8

"Anyone can have
a child and
call themselves
a "parent".
A real parent
is someone that
puts their child
above their own
selfish needs
and wants."

Show me ONE example of that in the current season (or any season, for that matter).

Wowser said...

Now this would be helpful to TFW...

http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-trick-to-removing-like-and-um-from-your-vocabulary-2015-7

Jamesvader1194 said...

Speaking of that Border Collie.Odd how she posted that she was in the hospital on the 20th MARIE ‏@MY_BORDERCOLLIE Dec 20
@SmithMadchen863 Sorry, I'm in the hospital and have been for awhile. It's totally unexpected. I have no idea how long I'll be here.😩 "Then 4 days later,on Christmas eve she seem to have some how made a miracle recovery since she seems to be tweeting again MARIE ‏@MY_BORDERCOLLIE Dec 24
@MsGoody2Shoes33 You're NO Bitch but I can think of a few other other old, lazy no good trolls who are b__tches. MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

Anonymous said...

Despite superior evidence to the contrary, Milo thinks TFW puts her children's needs first. This person is delusional.

bm

Lynne In RI said...

nc (11):
"Purse boy has to check out the boobs he helped her pick."

)))))))))))))

I wonder if he is happy with his choice, or if he's talking her into upgrading to the latest model.

Gladys would be pleased as punch to help her with a new selection.

ncgirl said...

Comments from another site:

"I feel like I just want to fly down to Alabama and give all the excursion operators a big hug for having to put up with Kate."

"And for someone who swears she should live by the water, Kate is forever caterwauling when she has to get in or on a body of water."

"So, this isn't a show about raising sextuplets anymore. It's about watching a group of spoiled children complain their way through numerous elitist vacations all summer long while listening to their hysterical mother try to steal attention attention way from them."

"I am a Nielsen family (shhhhh, it's supposed to be a secret!) and refuse to give that abusive screeching Mommy Dearest my numbers. I'd rather give the ratings to Vanderpump Rules or something equally as classy."

Sherry Baby said...


Anonymous said... 20
Despite superior evidence to the contrary, Milo thinks TFW puts her children's needs first. This person is delusional.

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Milo doesn't think with her head. Milo thinks with another part of her body.

Sad but true said...

From the K8 FB page:

XXXXX Wonder if anybody that watched even heard one sentence any of the children said....they definitely need to try shows without her-send two 21 year old women out with the children in place of Kate, I bet if she were gone-like mom and pop Duggar, more people would be interested in watching-shes gotta go-she is pure torture.

So some people are still willing to watch the kids---without K8. Would she ever consider such a move? I guess it all depends on the money. Although I can't see the kids agreeing to much more of this, they all look so pointedly uninterested in whatever's going on.

Sheepless In Seattle said...

glenn kuipers ‏@glennkuipers 32m32 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Hi Kate. I wanted to contact you to see if just wanted to talk to someone that is a good listener.
Plus I have tried to contac

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Oh, sheesh. I'm sure she will get right on that and call him.

Mel said...

Production should send them snowyaking.
She'd have the mother of all freak outs.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


She makes it sound like these kids take such wonderful care of her and pet on her and love her when clearly, filming is showing they could care less. They are constantly telling her to be quiet, to shut up (!), you're embarrassing, you're a drama queen, it's all about you Mom, etc... along with rolling their eyes at her.

$$$

She has a long history of creating a fantasy of how the kids are that has never born out on film. She's done it for years. These kids don't dote on her. They think she's a basket case. At this stage I'm surprised they don't make their own arrangements to go hang with friends most of the weekends and even weeknights. Maybe they are.

RoxyHelen said...

What is it about TLC and child predators? Toby Willis, Josh Duggar, Honey Boo Boo case. Add Bill B. to the list. Is it a coincidence? Or is it that TLC is the only place that will take these people and they know it? I refuse to believe TLC didn't know about Josh and Honey Boo Boo at least. Maybe other networks were approached but they ran checks and found this and didn't want to touch the families but TLC is known for being willing to get their hands dirty. Kate G is a child abuser and I'm sure TLC knew it from very early on. Makes me question every family that signs on with TLC. Are any of the others hiding horrific secrets as well? Are we going to read disgusting things about any others in the near future? Just some random thoughts.

Kate's Fetid Soul said...

Sheepless In Seattle said... 25
glenn kuipers ‏@glennkuipers 32m32 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Hi Kate. I wanted to contact you to see if just wanted to talk to someone that is a good listener.
Plus I have tried to contac

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Oh, sheesh. I'm sure she will get right on that and call him.
December 28, 2016 at 8:30 PM

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I truly hope that he's a Psychiatrist.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


What is it about TLC and child predators?


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I think people who have a need to be on TV and expose their privacy have a very good chance of being inherently unhealthy, "off" somehow. They may be deviant in other areas of their lives, including sexually. Often odd behavior in one aspect of life (and I do consider it ODD to want to expose yourself so much to the public) is an indication there is something off in other parts.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


@Kateplusmy8 Kate, do you watch Outdaughtered? If not, you should! Your kids would love watching another set of multiples.

Yeah, but K8 wouldn't. Kids would have to stand ready with the smelling salts if it looks like the Busbys are getting more than K8.

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Ha. No way would she actually support her TLC family. She's still pissed Outdaughtered mom didn't miscarry.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


There are a total of 3 young couples with families who went in on this business. The buy-in was $350,000 split 3 ways which is a big risk for any family. The Busby's talked to a financial adviser who told them getting a home equity loan was a smart idea. I've been told and have heard many business advisers tell others to never borrow against your home to finance a business because if or when the business fails (50% of new businesses fail), you could lose your home along with the business. But, the Busby's think this is the way they're going to pay for their daughters' educations. And, the mom thinks she can be the hands on person for the business - in between taking care of 6 children, of course.


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Oh Lord. Red flags all over that. Do they even have degrees? I thought their work experience was clerks at Target.

Even people who know exactly what they are doing have failed business ventures, let alone people who haven't the first clue what goes into running a business. This will take hard work and a lot of savvy, and it's unlikely with all these kids they really have the kind of manpower to devote to its success. Why do reality folks always want to take shortcuts? Why don't you go hit the pavement, get a steady job with benefits (government work is almost always a good bet), start college funds for the children and you'll be fine.

This sounds like franchising at a HUGE ticket price, which very often is quite frankly a scam for those who want to buy in.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I forgot about the tortoise beating the hare! I just thought it was awful that they thought it would be funny, a joke to put the turtle outfit on her and they shouldn't of done it.

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Tortoise, hare, whatever, if the intent was to make fun of her being slow by dressing her as a turtle, I'm with you--it's mean.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I see they are teasing the next Duggar episode by implying she might be having twins. Gimme a break.

Kate's kids are ages away from having kids of their own. I wouldn't be surprised if most if not all of them wait quite awhile, needing a break from "kids." I'm sure Kate is going to push them into that sort of thing before they're ready, seeing as how that seems to be the ticket to more episodes.

RoxyHelen said...

I see they are teasing the next Duggar episode by implying she might be having twins. Gimme a break.
/

She who?

kris said...

So I looked Adam's occupation up on Linkedin and it says he is an Account Manager & Outside Salesman for an IT service. I think he works with his brothers or brothers-in-law (I remember something from the show that indicated that). The Linkedin site also says under "Education" & named his high school.

That's not to say that people with only HS diplomas can't run a successful business (they can!) but dang, they'll have their hands full trying to make it all work.

Layla said...

Ratings are in--652,000. The holiday and advertising did help. Still horrible numbers, though.

Terri said...

Ratings are in 652,000.

Layla said...

Ratings so far:
Episode 1= 890,000
Episode 2= 860,000
Episode 3=736,000
Episode 4= 622,000
Episode 5= 560,000
Episode 6= 652,000

Average= 720,000

Next week is the twins' birthday. I think that one will be the lowest-rated episode of the season.

librarylady said...

The ratings were 652K for this episode.

Anonymous said...

Ratings are in--652,000. The holiday and advertising did help. Still horrible numbers, though

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Outdaughtered had 1,165 which is quite a lot of people turning the channel when Kate comes on.

Molly12

FYI said...

Ratings are in. 652,000 viewers. Last week was 560,000 viewers.

In comparison:

LPBW - 1.575 million (up from the previous week of 1.180)

Outdaughtered - 1.165 million (up from the previous week of 1.114)

Even though Kate plus 8 had 90,000 more viewers than last week, over 500,000 viewers turned out after Outdaughtered aired.

It doesn't seem like they are even going to reach 1 million this season. You would think they would have reached it Tuesday, especially since it was shown during Christmas break.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Disappointed to see the ratings are up a little, but hopefully the content will discourage the viewers from watching future episodes.

Kate's Fetid Soul said...

Yuk! I give up! What the HELL.

Why are people are still keeping that sh*t storm afloat?
The only message TLC/Discovery is getting from those numbers is that people are still interested in that crap-fest.

#shittyshowexistsnotbecauseofme




Sad but true said...

Well, 652K is nothing to write home about, especially when that represents a loss of nearly 50% of the people who watched Outdaughtered. Bottom line, her show sucks and her ratings bear that out. I hope she'll put some of the blame of her "producer" self. I'm sure all these trips were her idea. TLC has to be cringing at these numbers.

librarylady said...

Despite the low numbers, she's not going anywhere for awhile, unfortunately. She'll just continue to be used as cheap filler between the Duggars and whatnot. What else does TLC have, really. There are enough who still watch and the show can be produced cheaply in reality terms. People are mostly onto her schtick now and ignore her but still want to ogle the kids like zoo animals.

I think next week's will be a bit higher, with the teen base and focus and the hate watchers.

Anonymous said...

With a rating of 652,000 I'm wondering if that represents those who stayed with the show for the whole hour. I can understand people tuning in because they were curious but, after 10-15 minutes of screaming, etc., I think I might only last until the first commercial before looking for something along the lines of say entertainment. At what point in the hour is the "reading" taken; obviously I don't know how the caculating is done.

bm

Jamesvader1194 said...

At least none of the episodes got to a million so far.Only 2 episodes left,its up the twins sweet 16 to get to 1 million but with some people saying how much they can't stand the twins,i doubt it unless they like them in a negative way.

Sad but true said...

Leaving aside the pathetic ratings, there is still the whole Collin issue and the fact that the kids in general are becoming more unlikable as the show goes on. Bottom line, TLC has lots of reasons to cancel and very few to keep making new episodes. They have plenty of old episodes to rerun those whenever there's a hole to fill.

Tucker's Mom said...

Oh, sheesh. I'm sure she will get right on that and call him.
December 28, 2016 at 8:30 PM

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I truly hope that he's a Psychiatrist.
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I do too!
I think people with 2 brain cells can see Kate's kinds losing it.

Anonymous said...

Regarding the Busbys (AKA Gosselins in the making)

Soul Cycle is just another workout fad (anyone remember aerobics and rowing class?) and it's been around long enough now that it's already losing steam.

Add to that, there is already a Soul Cycle "downtown" in whatever city they live in/near, and they want to bring one to the suburbs?

When the next new workout fad comes along, who do you think will go out of business first, city or suburb?

They might as well take their 350,000 and set it on fire. It would take YEARS for all 3 couples to just get their initial financial investment back out of this pipe dream. Cycling will be passe long before then.

Financial ignorance, lopsided relationship, product placement, a house they can't afford, bad decision making. Sounds just like Jon & Kate to me.

Hoosier Girl
(Nice to see you all! Happy 2017!)

Tucker's Mom said...

There are enough who still watch and the show can be produced cheaply in reality terms.
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But, half of the new episodes were lux vacations for 8-10 talent plus producers and crew. I don't get it.

Tucker's Mom said...

Hoosier Girl
(Nice to see you all! Happy 2017!)
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You, too!
Spot on post. The Buzzers are just another trainwreck waiting to happen.
I would bet money that they are living beyond their means because they think they are a sure thing to follow in the footsteps of J+K+8.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Believe it or not, millions of people without college degrees run successful businesses.


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Nationwide? I don't know if it's MILLIONS, most people work for businesses, not run them, but yes there are plenty of people without degrees running businesses, few make anything but a livable wage, however when you are getting into a space as competitive and nuanced as the workout space, knowing what you are doing, either through college or experience, is essential.

There are red flags all over this. A fad business idea, an INCREDIBLE amount of initial investment, an overall sense of ignorance from this couple about this space, a willingness to take an equity loan when that's about the worst thing you could do, absolutely no experience or education that would translate to this space. It will fail.

I can say what I like about what they're doing. They put it on TV. Don't want me to say anything, don't splash your business ideas all over TV. It's as simple as that.

Kate's Fetid Soul said...

Happy, healthy & wealthy New Year to you, Hoosier Girl!

Praying that 2017 is a whole lot better than 2016...

GollyGee said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 33

I forgot about the tortoise beating the hare! I just thought it was awful that they thought it would be funny, a joke to put the turtle outfit on her and they shouldn't of done it.

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Tortoise, hare, whatever, if the intent was to make fun of her being slow by dressing her as a turtle, I'm with you--it's mean.

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Thank you, Admin, it is mean. It is letting everyone know that hey, one of our quints is Ssssssslllllllooooooowwwww as a turtle.

How is that child going to feel when she gets old enough to understand that because she was having difficulty keeping up with her sisters that mom and dad thought it would be funny and a joke to single her out and put a turtle costume on her?

Wait until they become teenagers, Busbys.

The National Weather Service is considering naming the hurricanes/tropical storms for the year, 2020, after all of the Gosselin kids!

snark!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I wonder what New Year's tradition will TFW pretend to have with the kids this weekend?
She must be sick of the sight of them by now. But hopefully they've gotten to spend some time with their dad.

That tweet where TFW said she "always always always" wanted to learn to kayak...
sheesh, what fortysomething adult communicates that way? Not that she needs to tweet the King's English, but to write that way in a conversation with an adult she doesn't know just seems so immature.

Kylie said...

I'm actually glad her numbers increased a little bit because the extra people that watched are now well aware of what a raging bitch she is . I doubt the numbers will be up next week.

Jeanne said...

Kate always, always, always wanted to learn to kayak. Yet with all her time and money, she never learned until TLC paid for it and filmed it. Sure Kate, we believe you.

Tucker's Mom said...

Jeanne said... 59
Kate always, always, always wanted to learn to kayak. Yet with all her time and money, she never learned until TLC paid for it and filmed it. Sure Kate, we believe you.
December 29, 2016 at 11:20 AM
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I'm sure there are any number of places near Kate that she could take the kids to kayak.
I've seen Jon post several pics with the kids where they are having fun on a lake (Nockamixon?), further, do people really think that the only way the kids would get to do any of these activities (fishing, water sports, bouncy places) is if and when Kate takes them (when they film)?
I swear that they'd have to be as mentally ill as Kate!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Jeanne (#59), I only wish TFW always, always, always wanted to be a good mother.

Tucker's Mom said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 57
I wonder what New Year's tradition will TFW pretend to have with the kids this weekend?
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Maybe some of them can visit with a friend!

Pants on Fire said...

Turtlegate

In Outdaughtered, I understand how some accuse Hazel’s parents of being mean in dressing her as a turtle.

I see it a little differently.

At Halloween we’ve seen children who are confined to a wheelchair and their parents decorate the chair as a race car of a fire truck or the like. That’s not mean - that’s making a cute adaptation.

In Hazel’s case, I believe this is what her parents were going for - an adaptation. Since Hazel wasn’t walking yet, they chose an animal that is a natural crawler and also possesses a big cuteness factor - a turtle. I don’t think the concept of ‘slowness’ crossed their minds.

I say this as an advocate for the disabled. I have a brother with multiple disabilities, and our sister is the CEO of the Arc here in the Twin Cities. If I had sensed that Hazel’s parents were disrespecting her, I would have jumped on them hard.

I may be wrong, but I’m going to give the Busbys the benefit of the doubt in this case.

NJGal51 said...

Thank you, Admin, it is mean. It is letting everyone know that hey, one of our quints is Ssssssslllllllooooooowwwww as a turtle.

How is that child going to feel when she gets old enough to understand that because she was having difficulty keeping up with her sisters that mom and dad thought it would be funny and a joke to single her out and put a turtle costume on her?
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I really don't see anything wrong with this. When we were growing up my parents called me Miss Mouse because I'm the short one in the family. It was a nickname, nothing more, nothing less and I never thought they were making fun of me. My brothers and sisters also called me "shorty" and that didn't bother me either because my parents always told me the best things come in small packages. BTW, I'm 4'11" so I'm not a little person just not quite as tall as others. I do hate to sit in a booth at a restaurant though because I always feel like I need a phone book to sit on.

GollyGee said...

One of the boys, Aaden, I think said something about the beach in Alabama and I could swear he said they didn't have beaches in PA.

IDK if I heard that right. Sounds like the kids may have wanted to go to the local beaches for years and their pleas fell upon deaf ears.

localyocul said...

I never thought of Kayaking as something you had to learn. You sit and paddle.

Tucker's Mom said...

That tweet where TFW said she "always always always" wanted to learn to kayak...
sheesh, what fortysomething adult communicates that way?
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One named Veruca Salt ;-)

Jane said...

Milo's posted a 20 year old picture of herself and her son on IG. Or maybe it's a photo of someone else? Shrug.

https://instagram.com/p/BOnKrJvh_e1/

Happy New Year to all!

Susan1956 said...

Kylie said... 58
I'm actually glad her numbers increased a little bit because the extra people that watched are now well aware of what a raging bitch she is . I doubt the numbers will be up next week.
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I agree 100%. I think the December 27th show was the true test of Kate's ability to bring in numbers since Christmas was over and more people were still on vacation/able to stay up late. People might have tuned in out of curiosity and nostalgia. But now that they've seen the Gosselin train wreck in all it's glory, I doubt they will make the effort next week.

Susan1956 said...

GollyGee said... 65
One of the boys, Aaden, I think said something about the beach in Alabama and I could swear he said they didn't have beaches in PA.

IDK if I heard that right. Sounds like the kids may have wanted to go to the local beaches for years and their pleas fell upon deaf ears.
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GollyGee . . . You did hear right. But no way would she who will always be in charge would settle for something as mediocre as a beach in PA. Between Kate's bucket list and TLC's willingness to foot the bills, a monster has been created and the Gosselin kids probably know very little about their own state.

InsanityReigns said...

localyocul said... 66
I never thought of Kayaking as something you had to learn. You sit and paddle.
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Thank you! TFW always makes things harder than they have to be.

Most of the kids seem completely disinterested in what she has to say. And from appearances, I am guessing the kids don't really like doing the interviews. Seems one will chime in just so they can get off the couch.

jamezvader1194 said...

@Jane Wait?That son looks nothing like the one from the driving picture.Yes i get the fact that he's older but that kid has blonde hair where as the one son thats driving has darker hair.Although maybe its because the picture is a bad angle https://www.instagram.com/p/BLGwQ3ZhnXt/?taken-by=miloandjack2016

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I don't think a child should be teased for things they can't help especially physical characteristics, regardless if the child doesn't mind. I like nicknames that highlight abilities rather than actual or potential inabilities.

Layla said...

NJGal51,

My grandmother always called me Miss Mouse or Miss Mousey when I was a child. Not due to my height (I'm 5'8" now) but because of a song she used to sing to me called "Froggy Went A Courting". I had forgotten about that until I saw your post. It brought back memories!

RoxyHelen said...

Saw this picture on Jon's instagram.Collin is holding his brothers' hands. It's so heartbreaking. Picture was apparently taken during the Hawaii vow renewal charade.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BLyCzkNApdV/?taken-by=jongosselin1

Anonymous said...

I can say what I like about what they're doing. They put it on TV. Don't want me to say anything, don't splash your business ideas all over TV. It's as simple as that.
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Of course you can. And I can say what I want about your obnoxious, know-it-all posts. It's as simple as that. Really, is there any subject on which you don't consider yourself the foremost authority?

Leslie said...

The ratings were 736,000 on Dec. 6 before the Christmas holidays. So Kate today is still 84,000 below that. So that is great. So if we consider the lower ratings were because of Christmas, Kate's viewing audience Tuesday is still 82,000 lower than it was before the Christmas holidays. In summary, her rating stink to high heaven. And further proof is how over a half of a million households purposely changed their channel to avoid her and her kids.

Leslie said...

I think the Busby's carrying on and on about Hazel not being able to fully walk is ridiculous.The quints are individuals. They will all proceed throughout their lives at different paces. Gee whiz, Hazel is missing out on two to three months of pre-school. She will NEVER remember this at all. So I don't know why the parents keep harping on it. It is silly and stupid.

And where did these parents get so much money to not only purchase a beautiful home but to brag that they have a lot of equity in it. I bet TLC had something to do with it besides just their regular paycheck.

Leslie said...

But, half of the new episodes were lux vacations for 8-10 talent plus producers and crew. I don't get it.
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They were not luxury vacations. I bet all those activities were free to TLC because of the free advertising /promotion. And the rental house was very nice but they probably only stayed there a few nights. And who knows TLC probably got that at a discount rental rate too. Many people would love their home to be televised. If anything it is a story to tell everybody in their life. And the crew is the same whether they film at home or away.

Leslie said...

I looked at up. There are two Houston locations. One of them is in River Oaks. That is the most expensive, posh neighborhood in all of Houston. And the most recent one is on Woodway and Voss. It is $30 per session. WOW!

I see this is a fad too. Especially since all major workout places have spinning classes.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Susan1956 (#69), right, the next episode will air when everyone is back to work and school. Whatever kids who might be interested in watching M&C's Sweet 16 Spectacular will be asleep when it airs.

So after viewing trip after trip, America will be watching piecin'-and-patchin' Ma Joad throw an extravagant party for her twins.
Did someone give the exact amount of money to her for the party that she had just donated to Habitat for Humanity (remember that touching parable from her early days?), or did she did dig it out of the couch cushions? This might sting for viewers who are bracing themselves for high credit cards bills after holiday spending. On what planet is she relatable to the average single mom?
Or any mom, for that matter?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


In Hazel’s case, I believe this is what her parents were going for - an adaptation. Since Hazel wasn’t walking yet, they chose an animal that is a natural crawler and also possesses a big cuteness factor - a turtle. I don’t think the concept of ‘slowness’ crossed their minds.

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It would be a lot better if they didn't intend to make fun of a child's special needs. Hopefully they didn't. A race car wheelchair empowers a kid and make him feel cool. But what if one outfitted a wheelchair to look likes a turtle?. I would think that's mean and potentially very offensive.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I still think the biggest problem with the ratings is the way the two lead in shows are blowing them out of the water. TLC can't just say oh it's a slow night. This is a clear tune out. What they do with that obvious information though who knows.

NJGal51 said...

GollyGee said... 65
One of the boys, Aaden, I think said something about the beach in Alabama and I could swear he said they didn't have beaches in PA.
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Having been born and raised on the Jersey shore (4 blocks from the beach) I guess I'm a beach snob and don't think of it as a beach unless there's an ocean attached to it. Maybe that's what Aaden meant about no beaches in PA. And yes I realize that there are lake beaches but they're just not the same. JMHO.

Tucker's Mom said...

I thought one or both of the remaining shows moves to 9pm? It will be interesting to see if an earlier time slot translates to more people watching.
At this point, we can call it. It was a crap season on every possible level. That's the take away here. Kate's got no game. No juice.
I don't rule out more filming or even another season, sadly, even without Collin.
That's how amoral this bunch is.

Tucker's Mom said...

Having been born and raised on the Jersey shore (4 blocks from the beach) I guess I'm a beach snob and don't think of it as a beach unless there's an ocean attached to it. Maybe that's what Aaden meant about no beaches in PA. And yes I realize that there are lake beaches but they're just not the same. JMHO.
December 29, 2016 at 2:07 PM
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Same here. I love water of all kinds, but the ocean is the most special to me.
Even between the Atlantic and the Gulf, I'm partial to those big waves crashing.

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Tucker's Mom The thing is,last year despite still having the 10pm slot.Kate still got over 1 million viewers with just the little couple as the lead in.So no one can blame the time slot when last year she did fine for most episodes.As for them still filming the Gosselin even after this,i don't know,but like SBT said.TLC has alot of good excuses to cancel(Kate being hard to work with,the Collin issue,its not worth it,etc.)where as keeping Kate.Whats the positives?I still thing you can put any other show in her slot and people would not tune out.

Layla said...

Tucker's Mom,
Yeah, this isn't a crap season. Next week everyone will be back to school and work. So far, the episodes this season average 300,000 fewer viewers than last season. If TLC continues with this crap, then they are morons and they deserve to take a loss.

The Little Couple is supposedly filming right now, which could mean the litigation that was holding up so many shows is over. There are lots of new shows. TLC may not need her for filler.

capecodmama said...

NJGal51...Born and raised on Cape Cod, I feel the same way. When you say you're going to the beach, you're going to the ocean. It would never dawn on me someone was talking about a freshwater beach. Though we do have lakes and ponds here that are freshwater.

TLC stinks said...

I wonder if the post regarding her hiring a teen life guard for the pool at the house is true. I assumed that was something the not-a-nanny did.

Plenty of folks who bother to post on the KatePlus8 Facebook page swear they will never tune in again. There are so many other good programs to watch these days. If people are changing the station when she comes on even after a big lead in show, it must be apparent to TLC she no longer can attract that one million rating. Even if they still film in 2017, it will be the end. Nothing is worse than a tired show that will not disappear. At least the major networks know when to pull the plug.

Kate's Fetid Soul said...

Jane said... 68
Milo's posted a 20 year old picture of herself and her son on IG. Or maybe it's a photo of someone else? Shrug.

https://instagram.com/p/BOnKrJvh_e1/

Happy New Year to all!

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Happy New Year to you too, Jane :o)

May this year be a good year for everyone!

Over And Out said...

Tortoise, hare, whatever, if the intent was to make fun of her being slow by dressing her as a turtle, I'm with you--it's mean.

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I guess I'm one of the few who don't think it was mean, nor cruel, nor that the intent was to make fun of the child. It's a costume, and maybe the child's nickname is turtle. I really doubt that it's going to have any long-term psychological impact or stunt her emotional growth or self-esteem because she was wearing a turtle costume. That's really nitpicking and stretching it without knowing exactly why they chose that costume, or if the child was offended. I give them a pass on that. Kate, however, gets no pass on anything.

Leslie said...

I don't think the Busby's were being mean about the outfit for Hazel. I highly doubt they are mean people and certainly they are not going to portray their meanness on camera for over a million to view if they were.

Leslie said...

Man, I do think TLC needs Kate Plus 8 for a filler show. There whole lineup is pure crap. And they don't have that many new shows anyway.

NJGal51 said...

I agree 100% capecodmama. I'm from Ocean Grove and to me the beach means the ocean.

Layla said...

Leslie,
The current lineup may be crap, but almost all (if not all) of those crap shows get higher ratings than Kate Plus 8.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Lancaster Online has an article on 17 famous people from Lancaster County, but alas, Kate isn't among them, nor is she mentioned in the comments of those who are omitted. Included in the list is Johnny Weir, Kristen Wiig, and Taylor Kinney (Gaga's ex). Guess Kate isn't on anyone's radar here, although she grew up in E-town. Ouch.

Kate's Fetid Soul said...

Leslie said... 94
Man, I do think TLC needs Kate Plus 8 for a filler show. There whole lineup is pure crap. And they don't have that many new shows anyway.

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Then TLC has to change it's name to a turd graphic, with flies buzzing around it.

Jamie said...

ncgirl said... 22
Comments from another site:

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Which site did the comments you quoted come from? TIA

PA Dutch Mom said...

I agree 100% capecodmama. I'm from Ocean Grove and to me the beach means the ocean.

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The Great Auditorium!

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Milo's beach photo...

https://instagram.com/p/BOnKrJvh_e1/

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lol!! Would it be mean to say that it's no wonder Gladys is enamored with Kate's bountiful bosom?

Anyone capable of doing an age progression pix? :)

NJGal51 said...

Yes PA Dutch MOM! The Great Auditorium, the tents in the summer and the beach! I was in many a summer show in the Auditorium.

Sad but true said...

Tucker's Mom said... 85
I thought one or both of the remaining shows moves to 9pm? It will be interesting to see if an earlier time slot translates to more people watching.
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On the TLC website, K8 + 7 is still on at 10:02 (how odd) next Tuesday. They are starting reruns of her show (beginning with the NE trip from 2014) on the 13th, a Friday. In other words, another slot where few are likely to be watching.

Sad but true said...

Aw, Katie in her jammies on a dog bed in front of the fireplace. And oooh, it's in b&w! How artsy. Wonder how long it took to stage that. It looks totally "arranged."

kateplusmy8 It was a dark snowy damp day and I just couldn't get warm... I grabbed a nearby dog bed 😉 and sat by the fire! #WarmNow #LoveLazyHolidayDays

miloandjack2016 Well good grief...WHY aren't you snuggling w/Nanooki Pooki ?? I have those days too! Hope it doesnt turn out to be so cold...its a #ThreeDogNite. 😋 @kateplusmy8

miloandjack2016 BTW...There you go #DeAging again on us!! You look young...like a college girl there!! LOL. Better jump on that compliment! #GoodHairDay. 😋 @kateplusmy8

jamiepumpkin3 Annnd we did not turn that on while I was there why??

njay said...

and of course, there is always chaos!
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I don't know is someone already 8noticed and pointed out but I realized last week that that is the new lead in to the show. It's like "it may be a crazy life, but it's our life" was for Jon and Kate plus 8.

JustMissy said...

Another "look at me" picture on her Instagram. She's getting a lot of comments on how young she looks. Sheesh. What a weirdo.

Sue said...

I think she paid for comments telling her how young and pretty she looks. Too many private accounts saying the same thing.

Carole said...

@Jane Wait?That son looks nothing like the one from the driving picture.Yes i get the fact that he's older but that kid has blonde hair where as the one son thats driving has darker hair.Although maybe its because the picture is a bad angle https://www.instagram.com/p/BLGwQ3ZhnXt/?taken-by=miloandjack2016

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A lot of kids are born with blonde hair but end up with full heads of dark hair by the time they're teens; her pic could be legit. If she really has a son and if that's a pic of him. lol

Carole said...

They were not luxury vacations. I bet all those activities were free to TLC because of the free advertising /promotion. And the rental house was very nice but they probably only stayed there a few nights. And who knows TLC probably got that at a discount rental rate too. Many people would love their home to be televised. If anything it is a story to tell everybody in their life. And the crew is the same whether they film at home or away.

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No matter who paid for the accommodations and activities, I think the value of everything is what makes it a luxury vacation. Plus, everyone's opinion of luxury may be different. I think it was a vacation that most families of 8-9 cannot afford, plus... how many of them did they take this year?

Carole said...

I think the Busby's carrying on and on about Hazel not being able to fully walk is ridiculous.The quints are individuals. They will all proceed throughout their lives at different paces. Gee whiz, Hazel is missing out on two to three months of pre-school. She will NEVER remember this at all. So I don't know why the parents keep harping on it. It is silly and stupid.

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With 4 other babies hitting their milestones, I think it's natural for parents to notice and be concerned when one is behind, but I agree that constantly talking about it is overkill (it could be production driven). 3 months behind her siblings in walking is kind of a big deal when you consider the fact that her eye problems may have contributed to the delay. It looked like the extra PT/OT help was necessary to get her on track. I think they did a good job in getting Hazel the help she needed but the constant talk about it was awful.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#104), I'd love to know how TFW differentiates between Lazy Holiday Days and Lazy Every Other Freaking Day. She's clearly trying to make it seem like this quiet dog bed moment is a rare treat: oh my, she never stops to take a breath! But we know her children are away at school for about 8 hours every weekday, 9 months out of the year. And we know she's sent dozens of tweets from her bedroom sanctuary with nary a kid in sight. Between that, the times she hops out of town for interviews, her parade of childcare helpers, and her monthly spa visits, she has more me time than any mother could wish for.

TLC stinks said...

Photo courtesy of #1 daughter, Mady.

Where are the dogs???? I certainly would not plop myself in a dog bed!

Why is her face so shiny? Not flattering.

Sad but true said...

TLC stinks said... 112
Photo courtesy of #1 daughter, Mady.
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Did she say that somewhere? Given the prep work, I thought it might have been Skeve. It has overtones of that Red Cross blanket "shoot."

Yes, Flimsy (#111), she probably has it on a chart somewhere, "Dark Dreary Day in Dog Bed" as opposed to "Bright Sunny Day on Massage Table."

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate's face has the shine typical of botox and fillers. She is wrinkle-free.
Isn't that where the stocking are hung? None there.

Tucker's Mom said...

No matter who paid for the accommodations and activities, I think the value of everything is what makes it a luxury vacation.
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That's what I was alluding to. Those add-ons are costly. There's no expense spared.
You'd have to spend a big chunk of money to do stuff the Gosselins do. Most families have to make choices, or make due with hauling a cooler to the beach and hanging out.
Deep sea fishing can cost thousands. Guided tours, also pricey.
Seafood feasts catered in the rental? Get out of here!

Tucker's Mom said...

JustMissy said... 106
Another "look at me" picture on her Instagram. She's getting a lot of comments on how young she looks. Sheesh. What a weirdo.
December 29, 2016 at 8:10 PM
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It is flattering photo because it blends her complexion and any imperfections.
Kate's obviously had a LOT of work done to tighten her face and that's great. Just don't pee on my leg and tell me you're de-aging ;-)

Tucker's Mom said...

jamiepumpkin3 Annnd we did not turn that on while I was there why??
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Because you were holed up in Kate's bedroom?

Anonymous said...

Why do all her dog beds look like they have never been used?

Molly12

GollyGee said...


A lot of kids are born with blonde hair but end up with full heads of dark hair by the time they're teens; her pic could be legit. If she really has a son and if that's a pic of him. lol

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Yes, my brother was blonde as a kid and now very dark hair.

So funny! If this is Milo, if this her/his son, or someone this Milo knows.

Curioser and curioser. lol

Sad but true said...

Tucker's Mom said... 117
jamiepumpkin3 Annnd we did not turn that on while I was there why??
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Because you were holed up in Kate's bedroom?
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Jamie didn't know it is now perfectly cool to drag the dog beds from wherever they normally are into the LR to bask in front of the fire. She's used to the old rules. Although I doubt the rules have actually changed (the kids would NEVER be allowed to do this), there are just constant exceptions made to accommodate K8's whims and need for attention.

GollyGee said...

The link to the picture of Collin and his brothers didn't work for me. But I noticed some interesting things going on the IG last night.

I saw the fireplace picture and saw it had 2700 likes with about 36 comments. About 30 minutes later, A THOUSAND MORE LIKES and about 20 more comments. What a witch! Sitting there, spending money that could be donated to feeding hungry children at her local homeless shelter for children.

Got to have that narc shot. Camera wise, ego wise.

Kate's Fetid Soul said...

Tucker's Mom said... 116
JustMissy said... 106
Another "look at me" picture on her Instagram. She's getting a lot of comments on how young she looks. Sheesh. What a weirdo.
December 29, 2016 at 8:10 PM
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It is flattering photo because it blends her complexion and any imperfections.
Kate's obviously had a LOT of work done to tighten her face and that's great. Just don't pee on my leg and tell me you're de-aging ;-)

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A lot of good that does to her.

She's miserable, no one sticks around long enough for her, her kids are starting to rebel against her and she has a lousy temperament- but hey, as long as she looks like a rough looking teenager...

Sad but true said...

GollyGee said... 121

Yeah, she's well over 7K likes on that photo now. The most she's ever gotten on any IG post is 8.4K, and that was the Xmas tree. I think only 3 or 4 others have exceeded 7K. So I'm sure there's money changing hands to prop up K8's ego.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Sad but true (#104), I'd love to know how TFW differentiates between Lazy Holiday Days and Lazy Every Other Freaking Day. She's clearly trying to make it seem like this quiet dog bed moment is a rare treat


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It occurred to me her comment about lounging around this week is rather insensitive to all the parents who have to work, who can't take time off during xmas week. As we've said before, school vacations and summer vacation often just make things harder for working parents, especially single parents, because now they have to figure out childcare, too. This is the week where 6 year olds are dragged into work with a coloring book because the baby-sitter is sick. This is the week where REAL single parents, and many other parents as well, have to power through despite exhaustion from the holidays and entertaining and credit card bills. By not working a real job, she is getting very out of touch with normal parents.

GollyGee said...

Kate's Fetid Soul and Tucker's, thank you for a hearty laugh this early in the morning!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I think the Busby's carrying on and on about Hazel not being able to fully walk is ridiculous.The quints are individuals. They will all proceed throughout their lives at different paces. Gee whiz, Hazel is missing out on two to three months of pre-school. She will NEVER remember this at all.



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Her delays could be a sign of something very, very serious. She may not remember missing out on preschool like I don't remember what I had for breakfast a week ago, but it could have serious psychological consequences to be separated out from her siblings.

All that said, they should be having discussions about this with their pediatrician and perhaps getting referrals to specialists, not carrying on to the cameras about all this. Perhaps it's nothing, and it may very well be, but it's crucial to be concerned the second you notice delays like this so the child can be linked with early intervention services as soon as possible. It's just another reason it makes no sense to spend all their time making a TV show. They have things to deal with that need prompt attention.

GollyGee said...

I looked at Jon's IG and I counted his gigs. He has had around 10 to 11 since Nov. 11th. I think that is very good. He is busy and took time out to humbly thank his family and friends supporting him by taking a picture of his DJing equipment. Very nice. He seems happy.

He also has a picture of all of the babies in one hospital bassinet. You have to scroll down to see it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


They were not luxury vacations.

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Yes they were. If the average American family couldn't possibly afford it, it's luxury. There are different degrees of luxury of course. She kind of tends to sign up for a poor man's luxury vacation, but I suspect that's more because of TLC's budget than her choices. But when all is said and done those vacations were all in the many thousands of dollars. Too much for most people to do comfortably.

As far as Milo, I've had a long-standing theory that she is cat fishing as her sister and that the kids are her nieces and nephews, or possibly, neighbors. It explains why she doesn't act like someone who really has kids, yet why she is able to produce photos that seemingly prove she is around kids at least sometimes. It's common for families to open up old photo albums over the holidays. She could have snagged a photo of her sister's picture then.

Winsomeone said...

"All that said, they should be having discussions about this with their pediatrician and perhaps getting referrals to specialists, not carrying on to the cameras about all this. Perhaps it's nothing, and it may very well be, but it's crucial to be concerned the second you notice delays like this so the child can be linked with early intervention services as soon as possible. It's just another reason it makes no sense to spend all their time making a TV show. They have things to deal with that need prompt attention."

As far as I can tell, Hazel is now 20 months old and still not walking. With her eye condition, she has balance and vision problems, plus she does seem quite a bit delayed in many other areas too. Maybe her vision problem is causing many of the delays though, poor baby.

TLC stinks said...

Mady envisions herself as the family photographer and uses photo apps to doctor photos. This is typical of her to take a photo standing looking down on Kate as opposed to getting down to Kate's level. Mady is still an amateur and it shows. God forbid her mother would pay for her to take photography classes since she shows an interest. She probably uploads photos to Kate's Instagram too. Momma's Little Helper. I used to work as a newspaper photographer so I can tell it's her style for her age.

Turtle (AKA Amy2) said...

GollyGee said... 121

The link to the picture of Collin and his brothers didn't work for me. But I noticed some interesting things going on the IG last night.

I saw the fireplace picture and saw it had 2700 likes with about 36 comments. About 30 minutes later, A THOUSAND MORE LIKES and about 20 more comments. What a witch! Sitting there, spending money that could be donated to feeding hungry children at her local homeless shelter for children
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Golly Gee,
How much does it cost to buy tweets? I don't tweet and don't have a clue but sure am curious.
Thanks.

Tucker's Mom said...

Anonymous said... 118
Why do all her dog beds look like they have never been used?

Molly12
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Some beds clean up nicely. We have a couple that have velour-like tops and when they are freshly vacuumed, they look great.
Until our yellow lab the shedding machine sits on it!

Sad but true said...

Doofus is still not done with Kate's IG portrait. She wants a thank you for her previous comment? Is she out of her mind? How often have those words come out of K8's mouth? I'm thinking, almost never.

miloandjack2016 Haha...this #HoneyOfAPhoto got a lot of sweet comments I see! #DeAgingMom 😋 So you better come back here &

miloandjack2016 Say #ThankYou!! ❤ My mom used to say...."cold feet...warm heart"!! @kateplusmy8


K8's had a lot more time, seemingly, to post over the holidays. Maybe it's on account of trying to save her sinking ship, but maybe it's because Jon got increased visitation? I'm guessing we won't find out the reason any time soon, at least not from Khate.

Jamesvader1194 said...

The picture of the cake braces has the highest comments at 200.Thats the highest number of comments she got on all her posts.Do any of these people even watch the show?Its clearly Aaden and yet i see some people saying its Joel or Alexis.

localyocul said...

Sad but true said... 104
Aw, Katie in her jammies on a dog bed in front of the fireplace. And oooh, it's in b&w! How artsy. Wonder how long it took to stage that. It looks totally "arranged."

kateplusmy8 It was a dark snowy damp day and I just couldn't get warm... I grabbed a nearby dog bed 😉 and sat by the fire! #WarmNow #LoveLazyHolidayDays

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It snowed? When?

Motley13 said...

As far as I can tell, Hazel is now 20 months old and still not walking.
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On Dec 21st Danielle posted on her blog that Hazel is now walking and up to speed with her sisters.

Sad but true said...

This is Emily (emcr68 on Twitter) posting on K8's IG. Guess she couldn't stay mad at mama for long.

emilylovesbutler Oh how I miss you 💙 Gorgeous mama!

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

It's not expensive to purchase instagram likes and followers.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#133), I think TFW might actually be nervous about the show getting dropped. No other reason she would lower herself to interacting with the mediocre.
If you can call sending an attractive picture of yourself out and waiting for compliments about it interacting.

Gladys really needs to be hosed down. Good grief, she's obnoxious. Here's a compliment, TFW, and now make sure
you thank me for it! She forgot to add her usual LOL to soften it, so she's letting her crazy show.

PA Dutch Mom said...

It snowed? When?

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lol!! It snow showered recently the other night (not during the day) just a few flakes but it turned to rain right away in the morning and then everything was gone within hours. It's been too warm for anything to stick on the ground.

Heck, it was 60 degrees here this past week. She is so full of it. Remember the Halloween storm that took out all of her trees and she was snowed in? Yeah, right. Never happened. We're supposed to be in the upper 50s again for a few days next week. We'll pay the price, though, in the next few months. This above-seasonal weather can't last forever.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

PA Dutch Mom (#141), you must be referring to the weather of the mediocre. TFW has her own weather.

Sue said...

There's also an app that you gain get called "Comment King" that you can use for likes and comments.

I watched the Christmas home video that someone posted the link for and it looked to me like all the girls were walking just fine.

jamezvader1194 said...

Now that Concerned Chick on twitter mention it.Question,does anyone here think Kate was force by the courts and Jon to get Aaden braces?I remember hearing that there have been moments where Kate was forced by the judge to do or stop doing things to the kids.It's been years that the boys needed braces and now with the court battle,all of sudden she decided it was now time to get Aaden braces?

localyocul said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 141
It snowed? When?

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lol!! It snow showered recently the other night (not during the day) just a few flakes but it turned to rain right away in the morning and then everything was gone within hours. It's been too warm for anything to stick on the ground.

Heck, it was 60 degrees here this past week. She is so full of it. Remember the Halloween storm that took out all of her trees and she was snowed in? Yeah, right. Never happened. We're supposed to be in the upper 50s again for a few days next week. We'll pay the price, though, in the next few months. This above-seasonal weather can't last forever.

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HA! I thought I missed something. Of course after I posted, it began to flurry. Red Alert!!!

Layla said...

jamezvader1194 (144),
I don't know if the court would force her to get Aaden braces, but she could still be motivated by the court case. If someone involved has pointed out (or she's afraid someone will notice) that the girls got braces and the boys' need for braces is being neglected, she might be motivated to hurry up and get the boys braces. She wants to keep all the kids, if only so that she can sell them off for filming, so she can't be seen as being neglectful of any of them, even the icky boys. I bet it irks the heck out of her to have to spend money on the boys' needs.

GollyGee said...

Leah Remini posted 3 IG pictures of her and her husband all dolled up at an event, and a picture of her and a friend on their phones.

Those 4 pictures have 200K likes and 2K comments or should I say, compliments?

You can't compete with CLASS!

Why is TFW wasting the kids money on her ego trips?

InsanityReigns said...

TFW's priorities are so screwed up and her kids know it.

Turn out the lights said...

It takes months of preparation before the braces are put in. Wisdom teeth removal, gum work, X-rays, on and on. It can take months before the braces are put on.
I doubt Kate did this as a safeguard to her custody.
I'm sure the kids are paying for it anyway.

Blowing In The Wind said...

I'm sure the kids are paying for it anyway.

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Weren't the kids supposed to get free lifetime dental treatments (Jon's father), or was that just speculation?

Anonymous said...

Sad but true (137)

Of course Emily can't be mad for too long *side eye* but it's interesting she hasn't tweeted to her in months and there she goes...

-ajw

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I wonder if Jamie and Andrea's visit included some brainstorming about how to strengthen TFW's social media presence -- hence the sudden jump in Insta comments. If only one of them would tell her to take the pre-order information off the cookbook...

Sad but true said...

She's commented on other K8 IG photos, but not really specifically addressing K8. And she's pretty much stayed away from K8's Twitter.

CC said...

Turn out the lights said... 149
It takes months of preparation before the braces are put in. Wisdom teeth removal, gum work, X-rays, on and on. It can take months before the braces are put on.
I doubt Kate did this as a safeguard to her custody.
I'm sure the kids are paying for it anyway.
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Depends on the teeth. Not everyone needs gum work. X-rays are done in minutes.

The whole custody thing happened over a month ago in November anyway. That's plenty of time to prepare for braces.
I wouldn't say Kate did it as a "safeguard," but I do wonder if she was ordered to get him braces. And of course his trust would pay for it. That's one reason I would think Jon could insist he gets braces. The money isn't coming out of Kate's pocket.

Layla said...

Blowing (150)
I think J&K had a deal with Jon's father's former partner that there would be no charges other than whatever insurance paid. I think she mentioned it in Multiple Blessing. However, that was a pediatric dentist, not an orthodontist. I don't know about her insurance, but ours has a specific dollar amount for orthodontics for the family. I believe it covered 3 of my sons' braces, but we had to pay for the rest. If hers is similar, that would be a fortune spent on braces, especially since some of the kids had braces more than once. If her insurance covers all of it, then she has to be paying a fortune in premiums for that amount of coverage.

GollyGee said...

Just one paycheck for 1 episode of Kate Plus 8 would pay for all of their orthodontic work.

She has plenty of money to pay for it. Actually, her and Jon should split it. They are their parents for goodness sakes!

It should not come out of their trusts.

When Baby Jessica was rescued from the well, her very young parents took the money that was sent to them and put it in the bank for when she graduated high school or 18, can't remember.

And the best and wonderful thing?

Her parents, DIDN'T TOUCH IT! I even remember her dad's name, Chip. When she got it, it had grown to 800K.

She is married with 2 children and used some of the money to buy a house not far from her childhood home and is going to set up a college fund for her children.

NJGal51 said...

As far as braces go, my son got his teeth late and therefore lost them late. Some of his permanent teeth didn't come in until he was 13 or 14 so he didn't get braces as young as some of his friends. It happens and the parent can't be faulted for not getting braces for all at the same age. Of course it is rather strange that ALL the boys are the last to get braces.

CharlieCat said...

My daughter was ready for braces when she was 12 and had them for 2 1/2 years. My son, however, wasn't ready until he was 13 1/2. Our orthodontist wanted his 12-year molars to break through before she started and that didn't occur until he was 13 1/2. She said that it's typical that boys get braces later than girls because their teeth don't come in as quickly.

Anonymous said...

Alexis hasn't had braces yet either. I personally just think the boys' teeth development is later than the girls. They might even still have baby teeth to be honest.

-ajw

GollyGee said...

We have been complaining for years that the boys were not getting braces.

All girls. She even has the money to pay the insurance premiums for the orthodontic work. The kids should not have to pay for it out of their money.

They earned that money in exchange for their childhoods.

Terri said...

Access Hollywood says Kate is on tonight. Getting ready to watch now.

localyocul said...

Eww I was just flipping channels and her heiness's mug was on Access Hollywood? (The beginning clip showing what would be on this episode I think) WHY? Looks like it's a year in review?

kris said...

GollyGee said... 156
Just one paycheck for 1 episode of Kate Plus 8 would pay for all of their orthodontic work.
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This^^^^!!! Braces are roughly between $5000-$6000 My daughter came out of her braces about 2 years ago and I paid a little over $5000 & she wore them for 2 years. Her teeth were pushed out from being a thumb sucker but she didn't need anything but the braces. One visit at her regular dentist, he wrote the referral. Went to the ortho for the consult (free), set up the appt for the next week and bam, on they went. No fuss, no muss. So for about $50,000 she can have all 8 of them with beautiful straight teeth. She can afford it. She sure as heck paid to have her OWN teeth capped and looking like chicklets.

Jillygee said...

She can afford it. She sure as heck paid to have her OWN teeth capped and looking like chiclets
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She didn't pay for her teeth , her kids did. Oh the irony.

Jillygee said...

Wisdom teeth are rarely pulled in adolescence, I've never heard of it before braces. They're not grown in enough to affect anything. That's why they're generally pulled in late teens , even early adulthood.

Blowing In The Wind said...

She sure as heck paid to have her OWN teeth capped and looking like chicklets.

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Maybe she needed the work done for the show and television appearances, and TLC footed the bill!

Turn out the lights said...

All of my kids, as teens, had their wisdom teeth removed prior to getting braces. It took months before the braces were put in. Referrals, appts-- go to this dr, do a consult, come back a week or 2 later for a treatment plan- then make an appt for wisdom teeth removal, then wait 3 more weeks to heal. Then back to the ortho for a second consult. Then make another appt. the first appt, they put in spacers, go back in 10 days for upper or lower braces, whichever was needed first. All told, from first appt to actually getting braces might be 8-10 weeks.
All of my kids had braces, it was anywhere from 5-8K each.

Blowing In The Wind said...

"Gladys really needs to be hosed down. Good grief, she's obnoxious."

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Yes, with ice water. Imagine being in her family, or having her as a neighbor. We're lucky we only see her obnoxiousness (a word?) on the internet and not up close and personal!

Fleecing (101)...LOL!! If Milo is close to Purse Boy, perhaps he could help her select a pair. I understand he is experienced in that area.

Sorry, couldn't help it. These Bloody Marys are really good.

Jamesvader1194 said...

Didn't Jon win the court case where the judge told Kate to stop giving the kids molded food?I really don't believe Goody knows about this MsGoody2Shoes21_
‏@MsGoody2Shoes33
As far as I know.....
Jon ain't "won" a damn thing in family court @kateplusmy8

GollyGee said...

kris said... 163
GollyGee said... 156
Just one paycheck for 1 episode of Kate Plus 8 would pay for all of their orthodontic work.
********
This^^^^!!! Braces are roughly between $5000-$6000 My daughter came out of her braces about 2 years ago and I paid a little over $5000 & she wore them for 2 years. Her teeth were pushed out from being a thumb sucker but she didn't need anything but the braces. One visit at her regular dentist, he wrote the referral. Went to the ortho for the consult (free), set up the appt for the next week and bam, on they went. No fuss, no muss. So for about $50,000 she can have all 8 of them with beautiful straight teeth. She can afford it. She sure as heck paid to have her OWN teeth capped and looking like chicklets.
December 30, 2016 at 4:56 PM
Jillygee said... 164
She can afford it. She sure as heck paid to have her OWN teeth capped and looking like chiclets
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She didn't pay for her teeth , her kids did. Oh the irony.

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She felt it was for their health and safety and well-being for her
to get the Chiclets, just like the deck.

What a con artist.

GollyGee said...

Jamesvader1194 said... 169
Didn't Jon win the court case where the judge told Kate to stop giving the kids molded food?I really don't believe Goody knows about this MsGoody2Shoes21_
‏@MsGoody2Shoes33
As far as I know.....
Jon ain't "won" a damn thing in family court @kateplusmy8

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Oh, James! Not only has he won that, he won about her locking the kids up in their bedrooms at night. It's a fire hazard and against the law, maybe.

If it is proven that TFW locked Collin in that spare, windowless room after she was told not to by a judges court order, IMO, she should be in contempt of court and have to go in front of the judge and explain why.

If she gets found guilty, so beith.

I hope she gets 1K hours of community service picking up trash on the waterways of Blue Marsh Lake in a kayak!

All you have to do is sit and paddle!

CC said...

Turn out the lights,

Wow that sounds interesting. How long ago was that???

One of mine had braces and didn't go through all that. Did not have wisdom teeth removed. Had spacers put in and had to go back two days later for the braces. They put top and bottom braces on the same day.

Your kids' experiences doesn't seem the norm.

Jeanne said...

We drove around tonight looking at Christmas lights. Mostly in Wyomissing but we made it more than half way to Kate's so we could see the house that was on the Light Fight on ABC. Surprisingly, quite a few places still have patches of snow. There were some bad accidents on Thurs morning like in Oley Township. However, it's unlikely Kate was up early enough to see the snow. And of course the picture is "Tell me I'm pretty."

RoxyHelen said...

CC said... 172

Turn out the lights,

Wow that sounds interesting. How long ago was that???

One of mine had braces and didn't go through all that. Did not have wisdom teeth removed. Had spacers put in and had to go back two days later for the braces. They put top and bottom braces on the same day.

Your kids' experiences doesn't seem the norm.

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Over here it's standard that wisdom teeth are pulled before braces can be put in place. Even if wisdom teeth haven't grown yet, they are extracted. The reasoning behind it is that when wisdom teeth will come in, they will push the teeth around and ruin the teeth all over again and then the braces were for nothing.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Wishing all of you a healthy, happy, and peaceful New Year!

Wowser said...

Wonder who took the picture??..hmmmmmm

Tucker's Mom said...

MommaBear5 ‏@kmclaughlin24 8h8 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Will u please follow me?I have 5 kids myself.I'd love to get to know you.I'm not a weirdo fan.Single moms must stick together!
*****
Uh, you're a weirdo when you think you know someone because they're on tv, and want to be their bestie.
Creepy.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#177), yet TFW practically asks for that sort of thing with her fake "Mom life" comments.

The only single mom TFW would want to stick together with is one who has gift cards to send her, or a TV opportunity down the line. Otherwise, press "delete."

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The reasoning behind it is that when wisdom teeth will come in, they will push the teeth around and ruin the teeth all over again and then the braces were for nothing.

$$$

That shouldn't happen as long as you are diligent about taking them out later. Seems kind of mean to put the kid through painful oral surgery and braces all at once.

RoxyHelen said...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 179

The reasoning behind it is that when wisdom teeth will come in, they will push the teeth around and ruin the teeth all over again and then the braces were for nothing.

$$$

That shouldn't happen as long as you are diligent about taking them out later. Seems kind of mean to put the kid through painful oral surgery and braces all at once.

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Seems more efficient to me. Why not get them out of the way early on rather than risk undoing the braces results? Wisdom teeth hurt like Hell coming in and afterwards they have to pull them out anyways so it's not like you're saving the kids great pain by not doing the extractions. The procedure doesn't take long at all anyways and as a bonus, you avoid the potential complications from later on, like impaction. I don't know, it seems better this way, to me at least.

CC said...

I had braces (YEARS ago) and didn't have my wisdom teeth pulled out. My kid had them within the last few years and didn't have wisdom teeth pulled out. That's considered surgery because they are still below the gums. The dentist did pull out permanent molars but it was done in the dentist office.

I'm not saying Aiden's braces were definitely court ordered... just a possibility.

Layla said...

My kids all had their wisdom teeth taken out before getting braces. Some had impacted wisdom teeth, just like I did, and those would really mess up your teeth if you had already had braces. Plus, since they don't break through the gums, you don't know the damage they are causing until it's noticeable.

Brace yourself said...

Braces are put on for different reasons, different ages. That's why there are different stories here about the braces experience their child had. Mouths are different.

I had two kids in braces, totally different for both. My son had a palatal expander before his braces went on, and had two eye teeth pulled prior to braces. Daughter had something cemented to the inside of her front teeth because one was twisting. My kids had braces put on around 13 or 14 years of age.

I was surprised at the young age some of the girls had braces put on then they came off then appeared on again. I think like someone above said there was a "ka=ching" factor.

Brace yourself said...

I forgot to ask what court cases did Jon win and when? Is there documentation discussing that? As in documentation, I suppose I mean gossip magazine articles. I never head that Jon went to court and won anything.

Sad but true said...

Jamesvader1194 said... 169
Didn't Jon win the court case where the judge told Kate to stop giving the kids molded food?
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We don't actually know what came out of that court case. Yesterday a non-fan posted Jon's petition to the court on K8's Twitter. I had forgotten how damning this document is. Many of the alienating things she has done/is doing were spelled out in there. That document proposed clear visitation, which we know has not been followed by K8 at all. In addition, it talks about the moldy lunches, the outside locks on bedroom doors (was this to keep the kids from walking in on her and Steve?), the constant interruption of visitation by phone calls to/from Kate by the twins, etc. This is October 2010. Again, we don't know where the judge came down, but what was proposed by Jon, especially in term of visitation, seemed very reasonable from every angle.

Anyone who doubts that K8 has used some very vicious tactics in trying to alienate the kids from Jon should read this document. The link was posted earlier on K8's Twitter by Margaret Meade (a very frequent poster, LOL), I can't get it to work now (it worked earlier), or I would post it. And I'm sure it's in the archives here.

Tucker's Mom said...


Anyone who doubts that K8 has used some very vicious tactics in trying to alienate the kids from Jon should read this document.
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And Kate thinks it's OK! That's what's so exasperating. She thinks it's perfectly normal to instill her own sick paranoia on her kids. That she evesdrops and requires detailed debriefings is a sign of her mental illness and iron-fist control over Jon and the kids.
I have NO DOUBT that the only reason the tups do not have phones is because Kate wouldn't be privy to their conversations.
It must kill her to know that the kids can say anything to Jon when they visit. Hence, her efforts to corrupt and alienate.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I forgot to ask what court cases did Jon win and when? Is there documentation discussing that



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It can be hard to quantify "wins" in family law court. A win in a situation where a parent is feeding bad food to a child may simply be having the judge admonish her to stop doing that, and she stops.

A win doesn't necessarily mean getting someone's kids taken away.

Brace yourself said...

It can be hard to quantify "wins" in family law court. A win in a situation where a parent is feeding bad food to a child may simply be having the judge admonish her to stop doing that, and she stops.

A win doesn't necessarily mean getting someone's kids taken away.
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I was curious as to the outcome of the case since people have been saying since yesterday that Jon won and I never heard anything one way or the other.

CC said...

Actually if you remove molars it also makes room for the wisdom teeth later on when they come in. I have my wisdom teeth and no issues with them.

Blowing In The Wind said...

If it is proven that TFW locked Collin in that spare, windowless room after she was told not to by a judges court order, IMO, she should be in contempt of court and have to go in front of the judge and explain why.

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What spare, windowless room? Do you mean the lower level room that was part of a renovation project? From the pictures I saw, it hardly looked like a damp, dark cell or dungeon! I thought it looked like a man cave that any young boy or guy would like, away from the female population in the house. Or am I thinking of the wrong thing?

Tucker's Mom said...


kateplusmy8Shoka shares my thoughts on the whole New Years Eve thing... #Snooze #HeLooksHuman #InLoveWithKingShoka 🎊❤️🎉
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Still pushing the dog lover thing.
I hope the kids are with Jon tonight. He hasn't posted about a gig tonight, so maybe they get to have fun with their dad.

TLC stinks said...

Braces before wisdom teeth pulled, in my kids' case. If you don't eventually get wisdom teeth pulled as a young adult, teeth will move and all that time in braces will be for nothing. I made sure they got their wisdom teeth pulled the summer before freshman college.

Sad but true said...

Oh God, give it a rest, K8! (The dog's on a couch asleep, covered with a blanket. She should have used the Red Cross one---ahhh, memories.)

kateplusmy8 Shoka shares my thoughts on the whole New Years Eve thing... #Snooze #HeLooksHuman #InLoveWithKingShoka 🎊❤️🎉

Just For The Hallibut said...

"What a witch! Sitting there, spending money that could be donated to feeding hungry children at her local homeless shelter for children. "

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Call me confused. No question she's what you called her, but how is sitting by the fireplace considered spending the kids' money and what does it have to do with donating to charity?

"One of mine had braces and didn't go through all that. Did not have wisdom teeth removed. Had spacers put in and had to go back two days later for the braces. They put top and bottom braces on the same day.

Your kids' experiences doesn't seem the norm.

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Yes, that's exactly the routine we went through. Wisdom teeth were not removed.

NJGal51 said...

Here's the link to the 2010 court doc. Hope it works.

http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/kate-gosselin-jon-gosselin-custody_Redacted.pdf

NOIP said...

Testing.....seeing if I can get the link from Twitter to work here. I believe you need to double click on the image to enlarge it.

http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/kate-gosselin-jon-gosselin-custody_Redacted.pdf

Question? said...

Does this sound like something Kate would say?

"Happy New Year to all, including to my many enemies and those who have fought me and lost so badly they just don't know what to do. Love!"

Over And Out said...

In what universe do these fans live, where they think that television personalities have any desire to meet them? It looks like Kate's not the only one she's tweeting for recognition...

MommaBear5 ‏@kmclaughlin24 14h14 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 Will u please follow me?I have 5 kids myself.I'd love to get to know you.I'm not a weirdo fan.Single moms must stick together!

MommaBear5 ‏@kmclaughlin24
My daughter is a dancer,inspired by Maddie and loves you guys and the show.We live in PA. Would it be possible to meet you?@dancemom1313

MommaBear5 ‏@kmclaughlin24
Guess tonight's not my night to get noticed by @dancemom1313 or @Abby_Lee_Miller

Tucker's Mom said...

And a Happy New Year to all my friends on the veranda!
We're roasting a bone-in pork and serving with cabbage with bacon lardons, and roasted butternut squash.

2016- Kiss my ass!!!!

Tucker's Mom said...

meeeeeechelle ‏@mschelleleigh 58m58 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 you must have forgotten that we have a Publix on #orangebeach you didn't need to pack all your groceries! 😜😜 #dvr #justwatching
*****
Did Kate actually pack food to take to Alabama?
WTH?
Did they drive there?

Tucker's Mom said...

I was curious as to the outcome of the case since people have been saying since yesterday that Jon won and I never heard anything one way or the other.
*****
Does Kate even get so much as a slap on the wrist? She acts like the judge laughs Jon's complaints out of court. Same for any child abuse investigations.

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