Monday, December 5, 2016

Recap: Kate Plus 8 ''10 Year Anniversary": Check!

Coming up on this God forsaken season of Kate Plus 8. Lots of normally wonderful fun things, like getting puppies, or going kaiking or doing archery, result in an incredible amount of yelling and hollering. The kids have for awhile caught on that Kate likes all the attention of making a scene, and find her yelling and stressful behavior annoying, so that's awesome. Their comments are like our comments circa eight years ago.

A word about yelling, because it feels nearly constant in that house. Children who grow up in houses where there is a lot of hollering going on can end up just as disturbed as children who grow up physically abused. Lots of experts have talked about all the negative outcomes of constantly yelling at your kids, one among them Dr. Laura Markham, who says yelling causes children to "harden their hearts" and that it makes children go into flight or "freeze" mode, making it harder to absorb what you're trying to teach them in the first place. There is one thing her yelling at them has surely done, and that is turned them into yellers themselves. They all holler and scream right back at her. Problem is, that form of communication doesn't work when you are an adult. You usually can't yell at your boss, or co-workers, or partner, or bartender, without terrible consequences. She is setting them up for disaster.

People still say happy birthday, cha-cha-cha? Ha-ha, that's awesome. That was the thing to say when I was sixteen too.

Some belly photos from Kate's sperm donor miracle pregnancy. I hope the fine gentleman donor was smart enough to sign all his rights away from the get-go. Kate explains that thanks to a Twitter user, she was reminded it's been ten years since they started filming. But did she retweet him? Doesn't count unless you do. Heh, like she needed someone to remind her of every single cha-ching that passed by each year. Bitch, please, you know darn well it's been ten years, you count the minutes, the seconds. This whole twitter thing, I swear. Doesn't life sometimes feel like an episode of Black Mirror?

Kate normally gets up at 5 a.m., and I normally don't care what time anyone gets up much less doofus here. We can tell how ancient this footage is because of all the snow on the ground. The boys usually wake her up, which I find a little unusual for almost teens. The boys are up before 5 a.m.? What time are they going to bed for goodness sakes, seven? Back in 2006, she got up at 8 a.m. She doesn't explain how she pulled this off with six babies in the house, but we all know it's because Jon and the helpers and even the twins did it all while Princess got her beauty rest. That little tidbit is mostly left out. I guess we are to assume the gremlins took care of all those babies until she finally rolled her lazy butt out of bed close to midday?

Literally the first three pages of Infinite Jest are tacked to the babies' bedroom door, directions for all the helpers she refuses to acknowledge. Now we fast forward to the sort-of present day, last year when the boys are making their own breakfast. I feel like I'm getting whiplash from all this back-and-forth. Aaden and Joel dutifully help her prepare school lunches every morning. They seem very chill and nice, but very parentified. The boys explain the reason they like to do this is the boys never get a chance to chat with Kate when the girls are around because the girls always dominate the conversations. Good grief, the girls sound like a real pain. Kate can't tell the girls to STFU and give their brothers a chance to speak during human hours?

The boys also say they enjoy packing lunches so they can be sure to get something they like in their lunches. Wait, huh? After eight years of packing lunches for them doesn't she just know by now who doesn't like what and try to accommodate it, within reason? If you're not there to police it, you're bound to get cod-liver oil and lima beans to go with your tuna? Sheesh.

The only thing more boring than a list is Kate explaining the list. For some reason Kate seems to think all her passive aggressive notes everywhere are a way for her to avoid being such a nag. She has proven though there is such a thing as being a shrew in writing.

The close-ups of the notes are interesting/funny. Some of them she attempts to be cute before ordering all her helpers about. "What stinks?" asks one before going into a litany of directions about how to properly throw out a diaper.


Another one is a laundry list of chores, errands and what sound like complex honey-do projects that might even involve having to go to Home Depot for supplies, all for none other than Jon to do, of course. The nap instructions and bed map look like blueprints to a kiddie work camp. 2006 Kate is nuts, as is the 2016 more bleached-out version. "Lunch giver"? Which church lady was that? What does that even mean, is that anything like an Indian giver, and why do only three of their cups go back in the fridge but not the others? It's a Gosselin unsolved mystery. Kate admits she puts notes everywhere, which is the first time she isn't exaggerating. I wish she would go paperless.

We whip back to sort-of present day where Kate is yelling again at the kids, who aren't doing anything wrong. They're just eating breakfast.

On the drive to school Kate makes a point to ask who is going to Jon's next week for their dinner night. The usual four, say the kids, who seem a little confused by this line of questioning. She makes up some lame excuse about how she needs to know because of some dog appointment. Sure, blame the dogs! We've discussed this a lot, but in my court, she'd be in contempt of court for not making sure all the children are attending their father's visitation. It isn't on her to put it on the kids who is going or not going. She is to transact the children to their father as instructed to in their family law order, every single time, and that's the end of it. No questioning them, no implying they have a choice, nothing. If there are any problems, she is to inform her lawyer. That's it. That little snippet was designed to show she doesn't "withhold" the children from Jon, it is their choice, but she doesn't seem to understand that's not good enough and that there are many ways to withhold a child from their parent that are much more subtle, and she is guilty of most of them. What's more, a judge decides what say a kid will or will not have in whether they go to their father's, and usually at this age, it's very little say. Most states recognize that a child their age should not have to bear the bulk of the burden of "deciding" which parent they will spend which time with, and rightly so.

They have to line up and kiss and hug Mommy Dearest when they get to the bus stop? That seems a little much at their age. It's just a few hours at school, not a week-long overnight field trip.

Once she gets back home she claims she gets Collin ready and off to his school, but we never see him on camera. Wait, who was staying with Collin when she took the rest of the kids to school?! She doesn't go into why he goes to a different school. Not that I want her to, but this is awkward, and terribly unfair to him. Poor kid.

She goes into a very long and boring explanation about how when she gets home she's under the gun to get dinner prepped. But she's only making stuffed peppers. At most, prepping that for eight or nine people should take maybe 30 minutes, 45 if you're really slow and distracted because you're chatting with producers about the fascinating topic of yourself. Doesn't she have a solid six hours without the kids every day to stuff peppers?

We made a point here on the blog that this whole thing about having a huge family is a little overblown. When you break it down, she actually just has, now without Collin, two families of four. So your expenses really shouldn't be ten times the amount of a family of four, but rather, just twice, give or take. Same for your food prep, same for your laundry, same for your time management. And it really should be less time actually, because it's certainly much easier to add people to your dinner prep and other things you are doing once you start it.

What would be slightly, ever so slightly more interesting than all this stupid drivel is to explain what exactly she is making. Looks like shredded chicken or turkey, going into halved peppers, with some spaghetti sauce. Seems like a simple, potentially tasty go-to meal kids will eat. Maybe one could find it if they pre-ordered her cookbook.

Kate laments how much easier babies are to entertain. I don't understand what she's saying, I think she says it was so easy, a dumb-dumb thrilled them. I'm too lazy to check the closed captioned to catch that comment. What dumb-dumb? Doofus?

Who's that guy in the background tending to babies? Dark haired, average build, resembles Jon Gosselin. Whooshhhhh, pass the air sickness bag because we're back to sort-of present day. Kate hates 2016 because the kids grew up and have opinions and she can't just shovel whatever food into their mouths or propaganda into their brains. Hey, Kate, you're only in January or February of 2016, just wait until you see what happened by November! Ba-bum, ching! Kate very reluctantly admits that laundry is somewhat better now that they are older but then tries to explain it's actually pretty bad still because even though it's a lot less frequent, the clothes got bigger. She actually says this. Heh. She cannot let anything go without making sure she's the martyr.

I don't think anyone needs me to recap Alexis pooping her underwears, right? Kate leaves the laundry running and runs off to pick up the kids for school. Is this really all she did in six hours, stuff peppers and stuff washer and dryers? Just a PSA here, never leave an appliance like that running when you leave the home. Appliance fires are extremely common, and thank God I was home when my dryer caught fire a few years ago or the whole house could have burned down.

The kids are back home from school and get straight to doing their homework, the boys anyway. What I observe here is the boys dutifully sitting down and trying to get their work done and move on with life, and the girls screwing around, not doing their homework, bothering their brothers, overall being a pest. Teen girls can be the most obnoxious species in the world when not properly parented, I hate to say it.

Kate has a true first world problem, in that in order to ensure everyone has a laptop and can get on the internet including herself, she had to get some more laptops and a business plan for wifi. Ohh, sounds like a business expense write off. Did Kate just say it was "hella expensive"? You are hella all of 15 years old. Nobody likes when old people try to talk like young people, not even other old people.

Some of the girls help Kate cook I guess a dessert for after dinner, and absolutely nothing happens. My god, those oven mitts are huge, and look industrial strength enough to practically remove a body from the oven. Geez!

She oh so lovingly wrestles with Aaden who is teasing her about her dumb jokes, and does anyone else get really uncomfortable when a documented child abuser "play" abuses their kid? It can't be just me.

Collin speaks on the couch! He teases Aaden about how he eats a chicken leg. Nonsense that we know nothing about this kid and his state of mind. There was a good glimpse right there at a child who can explain something clearly, understands humor and can demonstrate it, and knows how to tease without being cruel. It doesn't disprove he may have some struggles, but it is evidence of several abilities no one can deny he has.

Kate says Aaden was more of a quiet studier as a baby (he was really cute as a baby!), but now he has a hilarious sense of humor. I agree with that, I love his sense of humor. I especially love when he takes pots shots at his mother, lol.

Kate wants Mady to close the dishwasher door so Kate doesn't trip over it in her sleep. Kate watches too much T.V., that was the plot line of Garden State. Except I think the child actually pushed his mother over the dishwasher door. Heh. So wait, Kate sleepwalks in the kitchen? Do tell us more.

The day is finally over and naturally, Kate is exhausted. Now imagine doing all this stuffing and policing and having a real job, too. How does anyone do it?

Her storage room looks like an episode of Coupon Hoarders, i.e. Extreme Couponing. Absurd. She makes the kids take inventory before a shopping trip. Huge waste of time. This is one of those things where the amount of time and energy spent stockpiling is really not worth the little savings you find doing so. There is a pretty popular, and really good book about decluttering I read this year called The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up, based on the Japanese philosophy of decluttering your life to promote peace and tranquility overall. The author takes it to a bit of an extreme, wanting you to even throw out old family photos, letters, etc. (I don't see how it would hurt to at least scan them in and save them in Evernote or on a USB stick before tossing them), but she does have quite a bit to say about this stockpiling business. And that is that she's never seen someone's stockpile that wasn't actually a huge waste of money. Mostly because the products either expire before you use them or you forget you have them. She makes people donate their stockpiles or just trash them. Check it out, she has some good ideas even if you don't go as extreme as she did, and she gives suggestions without being judgmental or condesending.

Hannah is bossy and always has to be in charge, say the twins and Kate. Do they understand those are not nice comments to say about your sister or daughter? And, not to be an obnoxious feminist, but I do buy into the fact that few boys are ever described as bossy. In fact, boys who are like Hannah are described as leaders, decisive, future presidents. But when girls take a leadership role, they are bossy. It's hypocritical and unfair. Leadership qualities should be encouraged, and can be done so while still teaching kids how to lead in a way that is collaborative and kind, not divisive.

Kate is always making checklists. Heh, so is Pam Anderson. And, check!



Kate doesn't normally take the kids grocery shopping. Oh, I see, she's just doing it for the cameras and episode idea. It was harder to be organic ten years ago, which is true. Nowadays, that scam really has caught on, hasn't it?! Thanks in part to dopey celebs like Kate who know nothing about food.



The kids pretty much get away with piling whatever they want into the cart. Mom doesn't even look at the price, because why bother when it goes on the company credit card. Kate yells at them for being in people's way. While I agree they are plenty old enough to be aware of who they are blocking in the grocery aisle and that it is annoying when kids well old enough to be polite in grocery stores aren't, they are not in anyway's way. The aisles are huge, and nobody is around them. I think something I've learned through the years though, is don't assume a kid behaving badly in public can help it. He or she may have special needs. Don't sneer, don't judge their parents, don't let it ruin your shopping trip. Unless you have more information that suggests otherwise, it may very well have nothing to do with bad parenting.

Organic animal crackers, haha, what a dolt.

They flash back to one of the few old episodes I actually found somewhat interesting, where she took the cameras along on a grocery shopping trip. It felt so much more genuine than what's happening today, and she had a few good tips thrown in now and again.

The kids eat a lot more now. No, you're kidding! My god, they're walking away with half the store here. Even seven brides and their seven brothers can't possibly eat through all this crap. Greed.

Kate wants to know if Hannah will have stocked shelves when she's older, too.



Uh, yeah, so, not having a billion kids, Hannah says. Heh, I can't imagine.

They had a historical blizzard? Haha. I think doofus here means historic. Historical just means, like, the past, Kate.

They got two and a half feet of snow. I know that's quite a lot for the area but two or three feet was pretty routine where I grew up. It's always interesting the perspective the location and climate you're used to plays into whether you are in hysterics over stuff like this. On the flip side though, when it finally got to 90 degrees every couple years everyone faints dead away tongues hanging out weak and parched, so it goes both ways. Nonetheless the snow is very pretty. It's that still, silent look that happens when there has just been a major storm and everything is shut down, even the wildlife. All you hear is the occasional creaking of a tree and the quiet rustle of a wind. There's nothing like it.

Whether the producers thought of this, once in awhile Kate does something cool with the kids that is terribly fun and not out of reach of everyone else but the one-percenters. This time it's building an igloo, and she researches, or pretends to research, on Youtube. I'm pleasantly surprised Kate has gotten really nerdy excited and determined to do this. That's how I get about this kind of thing. I go all in once committed, like last one out there in the freezing cold finishing it up when everyone else is over it.

Everyone forgets about Joel. By everyone I guess Kate means Kate? No one else forgets about him, he's great. Ha, baby Joel had that receding hairline thing some babies temporarily develop. Adorable!

They figure out the key to making the igloo blocks is to pack the snow really tightly in the tupperware containers. Everyone is enjoying this, including Collin who is right in there making blocks. Kate is really excited this is turning out to be so fun. She had no hopes of it being fun. Oh, that's a great attitude to have going into any activity, this is gonna suck. What a putz.

Then and now, Alexis still has a twinkle in her eye. I think like most viewers I generally like her. Leave it to Kate to find something to nag and yell about. This time it's about getting snow into her nicely plowed driveway, which they were barely doing, and sliding down a little hill close to the igloo. It's hard to tell how close the hill really was to the igloo to really cause any danger to it, the shots don't make that clear.

The kids have about had enough and are ready for some food, which I expected eventually. Just Kate and Joel are left out there, packing away. Haha.

How badly do you want to succeed in life? she demands. Joel has been complacent lately, she explains, which is why she's been pushing him. Over building an igloo? It's supposed to be fun! And my god, he's twelve years old. Complacent comes with the territory. You're lucky you can get a 12-year-old boy to tie his shoes in the morning much less finish building an entire igloo. This is classic Kate. Start out with a reasonably fun activity, then suck the ever living life out of it and everyone in it until all the things you thought you love you now despise. She is something else.

I was wondering where the twins were in all this. I assumed too smug to lower themselves to playing in the snow. But turns out, Mady explains they're having a "cyber snow day," where the teachers assign homework to them to work on throughout the day so that they don't have to make up the lost day at the end of the year. That sounds genius to this adult, although as a kid I imagine that really deals a crushing blow to the two most wonderful words a northern states child has ever heard: snow day. Seems sacrilegious somehow. I wonder what the students do if they don't have the books they need for the assignments. I guess you can only assign things you can do without the books.

Hey, Kate gets some points for this. She's not letting the twins flake out on their schoolwork, and she's getting the younger kids out of the house most of the day so they won't distract them. And, I don't see her making fun of the twins for this unfortunate situation, as I would expect from a jerk like her. Don't say I never give her any credit.

All the kids were just such precious babies, including Leah. Kate is quick to point out though she was a biter. I've heard so many parents of multiples say their kids bite way more than singletons do. I wonder if that's just some kind of weird evolutionary pack instinct where children had to learn to bite each other or never get any wholly mammoth to eat.

Kate says Collin is no longer laid back. We really must not see much of this alleged behavior ever filmed, because when the cameras have been on lately, he almost always seems pretty easy going and helpful, just like his brothers. He's right there front in center making snow bricks as instructed by the commander, not causing any problems. Leah was the one crossing her arms and looking like she's about to cop an attitude.

Collin is again quite confident on the couch, making great eye contact with the producer, and explaining very clearly how they did about four layers of the blocks. We can observe plenty about this young man, come off it.

Kate really is going on and on about success here for someone who isn't going to even try to attempt a roof, which is the coolest part of the igloo. Anyone can stack blocks. But angling them up into a roof is actually interesting. They didn't build an igloo, so stop saying that. They built a circle of blocks and covered it with a tarp. A fort, really. I hate when adults feel the need to drive home life lessons instead of just letting kids absorb them on their own. They will, without your stupid help.

They head inside the structure and share some hot chocolate and high fives. Kate really liked the toddler years when she could do no wrong. Heh, I bet she did. Kate has said no less than three times now in this episode how blindsided she is to be where she is today, mostly implying the divorce. She really likes to emphasize how allegedly shocking the breakup was, like some kind of over compensation to prove she really was just minding her own business being a good wife and mother and some crazy jerk pulled up out of nowhere and divorced her. She loves to pretend she never saw this coming much less had any hand in it. This from the woman who was the one to file for the divorce in the first place. We get it, it's all Jon's fault. Can we please move on now?

I hate when she speaks for all parents. You do not speak for anybody but yourself, lady. And she's always so off the mark when she does it too. Yes it's true all parents probably have regrets, but do not say that all parents will yell at their kids, because it simply isn't true. For instance, while my mother did slip up and yell now and again, she tried not to, and my father never yelled at us at all. Not even once. When he disagreed with something we had done, we discussed it. He explained what he wanted us to do differently. And it worked. We listened to him. And I believe the reason that parenting style worked so well for him was because we developed a mutual respect where I knew I was free to make honest mistakes as kids will do, and he was free to help me correct them without anyone feeling upset or stressed out or nagged.

Going back to Markham, the doctor I mentioned at the beginning of this article, she has spoken at length about how yelling in fact is not normal, and that there are many households where yelling never occurs. Of course parents still get upset and angry and are far from perfect, but they choose to be aware enough of their own emotions to not take them out on their kids.  I would love to hear stories from posters here who had a parent, or parents, who didn't yell, or are a parent themselves who doesn't yell.

Next time on Kate Plus 8, the master of deflection brings on the ultimate distraction--puppies!

180 sediments (sic) from readers:

Wowser said...

An excerpt from TFW's diary of horrors: (the signs of Collins struggles were there from day 1. Her need to get him to "conform to the mold of unreasonable expectation" for filming purposes was unfortunately his fate in never getting proper treatment, diagnosis or even a mother who gave a damn about him as an individual let alone a sweet boy who deserved it...he was a vehicle to line her wallet and fill her coffers)

Tuesday, September 5, 2006 Today I was officially a horrible mommy. I failed all the way! I was absolutely awful to Collin who was awful to me! He does things just to irritate me! I told him at one point to sit in the corner (one of a million times) and he disregarded me and threw the one gate on the floor! I am too rough with him and the girls see that-- I feel so guilty that I treated him like that that I will set out tomorrow to be a better mommy!
I need to pray for my relationship with Collin… I can’t explain it. I love him so much but I don’t understand him. His frustration is unexplained and I don’t know what he wants a lot of times… he just starts shrieking and I tend to ignore it a lot. He is such a sweet boy and so cute and smart. But I just don’t understand him!!!! Lord please help me to understand Collin and help me to only feel love when he is near!!!! Hold my frustration with him and help me to feel only love!!!!! Help me to be a loving mother who is slow to wrath and quick to love!!!! Please help tomorrow to be a better day for all and help me to take time and play with my kids! Help all of us to benefit! Amen.

I am One of Eight said...

Great recap! As my name implies,grew up with 8 kids; I have absolutely no memory of my parents yelling at us. I'm sure they were stressed, dad worked full time, mom managed to work part-time as a nurse and still raise us without a pack of nannies. And they said it can't be done! And they're still very happily married.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

A 14 month old is not developmentally capable of understanding he is irritating his mother. At most he might connect doing something naughty with a funny face from mommy but he simply cannot grasp the emotion of annoyance yet much less be capable of intentionally inflicting annoyance on his mother. He's one, not 11. And this from a nurse who has no excuse not to know better. He is just being a toddler. His behavior is totally in the spectrum of normal trying toddler behavior.

Sad but true said...

Terrific recap, Admin, you have Kate to a T. It's about time for her to start whipping up her masses (lol) for tonight's All About K8 episode. Wonder what she'll pull out of her a** this week.

Wowser said...

Sounds like she put more thought into what makeup brand to buy than where she placed her son.

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/kate-gosselin-collin-facility-accused-patients-escape/

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

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FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin, it was worth the wait! Thanks so much for this. At the end, I always feel like I did as a kid when I'd be watching some annual Charlie Brown cartoon I couldn't wait to see, and suddenly the end credits rolled, and I'd say, "Oh, no, it's OVER!"

So much I'd love to comment about. I'll start with this. Oh, yeah, she misses the toddler years, all right, because JON was raising her kids, along with a ton of helpers. It had nothing to do with her doing no wrong. I bet she also liked that she could beat the kids and they were too little to squeal to anyone.

Sad but true said...

Wowser said... 5

Wow, that sounds more like a psychiatric hospital than a "school." ROL calls everyone a patient? I would also like to know whether this place is just for teens or whether it's all ages. If it's not all teens, then really, Kate? WTF?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

You know what's marvelous about being mediocre? You never have to wake up and check the gossip websites to see if there's
another picture of yourself and your special needs child.

Please, let this circus be shutting down soon. Please, please, please.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Expect some full-court deflection this morning. Plenty of puppy health updates.
And lots of questions from Gladys.

Vanessa said...

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/kate-gosselin-collin-facility-accused-patients-escape/
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Wow just wow wow wow

Maybe the facility that was 7 hrs away was a better fit for Collin? She moved him to this one that's 2 hrs away for insurance purposes?? My guess the first one was far more superior a facility, was the best place for him as far as professionals were concerned. the millionaire monster mom wouldn't fork over Collins hard earned cash and placed him wherever her insurance would cover the cost. Speculating of course

Wowser said...

How those teenagers cannot be totally mortified by having her as a mother I'll never know..

http://radaronline.com/photos/celebrity-monster-mom-moments-kim-kardashian-kate-gosselin/

GollyGee said...

That place sounds more like an insane asylum than a nice place for a young man to get help.

So, she was having to pay for the nice place 7 hours away and then moved him 2 hours away so the insurance would pay but it is the Insane Asylum?

I am thinking it was so detrimental to get him out of there so fast that they took him to the 7 hour away place and she had to pay for it. Then she finally managed to find him a place only 2 hours away where her insurance would pay for it.

How evil is that? That 7 hour place could of been much better than this 2 hour away place.

And how could she TWIRL HER HAIR and say, yes, I see him when she was asked. She is glad he is gone and if he is there at the bad place, oh, well.

You get what you get and you don't get upset!

Jon must be livid.

Vanessa said...


So, she was having to pay for the nice place 7 hours away and then moved him 2 hours away so the insurance would pay but it is the Insane Asylum? 
*****
I said I was speculating, this was just a guess on my part

Sad but true said...

GollyGee said... 13

And how could she TWIRL HER HAIR and say, yes, I see him when she was asked.
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When and where did she say this? I'm confused.

Anonymous said...

GollyGee (13)

I'm pretty sure Vanessa said speculation, not fact.

This kind of reminds me of the comment from FB I posted a while ago that stated that person's husband works where Collin is (not only that but I checked the lady's profile and it states they're from Philly, PA which is allegedly where Collin is located). She said her husband basically stated he's the baddest kid there. While admin made a point that confidential info as such probably would not have been revealed, I kind of don't deny it at this point. Especially with Kate's use of the word "plodding" in a recent interview. I hope everything with him turns out for the best.

-ajw

Tucker's Mom said...

I need to pray for my relationship with Collin… I can’t explain it. I love him so much but I don’t understand him. His frustration is unexplained and I don’t know what he wants a lot of times… he just starts shrieking and I tend to ignore it a lot. He is such a sweet boy and so cute and smart. But I just don’t understand him!!!!
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Brought over from last topic.

It's a shame these signs were ignored and not addressed. Kate can see how Colin struggled and with 5 other tups, she knew he was different.
I don't know if Colin was tested for things like autism, but he should have been. Early intervention could have helped him.
Shame.
To me, sending your child away for God knows how long is the last resort and perhaps it didn't have to come to this.

TLC stinks said...

Full-on assault by Jon's team. It won't belong with the breadcrumbs Radar is dropping to figure out where Collin is. Does not sound like an institutional school but more like a psych hospital.

RoxyHelen said...

Well, Collin's life is going to be damn hard from here on out. It doesn't matter if he'll get better, he'll still forever be the "insane sextuplet Collin from that jon and kate plus 8 show".it won't matter that it's not true. It will taint everything, his face is all over the world, literally. His future classmates and teachers will know and probably judge. I mean, just look at the rumors about him killing family pets.It's so messed up and Kate just lets it all happen. She was so quick to sue for libel when it comes to her but when her precious som is dragged through the mud she sits back and enjoys the show. How Kate can sit there and claim their reality show has brought them only good things is beyond me.

Sad but true said...

The idiot wind is a-blowin' again.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 7m7 minutes ago
When we thought #KatePlus8 couldn't get any crazier?? NEW episode Tues. 10pm @TLC Hold on #MoreFun! @Kateplusmy8

From fearlessmotivation.com (LOL)

Even when things seem
impossible, I know that
anything is possible

Really? Collin in a psychiatric hospital seems impossible, but I imagine Kate would disagree. So I guess you're right. Doofus.

TLC stinks said...

Here it is. This is where Collin is: Fairmount Behavioral Health.

http://pennrecord.com/stories/510551358-mental-health-patient-who-injured-himself-during-escape-sues-facility

Sad but true said...

UseCommonSense ‏@UseCmmonSense 5m5 minutes ago
UseCommonSense Retweeted Concerned Chick
@BerksDA How much more evidence do you need? Arrest Kate for child abuse Surely you have her private journals, save those kids! #Kateplusmy8

Hey, THIS might be the perfect way to keep K8 on TV! Put her in jail. She could be the new "Orange Is the New Black"! K8, have you already put this forward as an idea for a new series starring YOU and YOU ALONE? What'd TLC say?

TLC stinks said...

http://uhsbehindcloseddoors.org/item/fairmount-behavioral-health-system/

Lawsuits and inspections.

Sad but true said...

Vanessa said... 14

So, she was having to pay for the nice place 7 hours away and then moved him 2 hours away so the insurance would pay but it is the Insane Asylum?
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That certainly sounds like what happened. God forbid Kate has a higher co-pay than she thinks she should.

Wowser said...

Tucker's mom....that was my point. Early intervention is key, especially if he's on the spectrum. If coping strategies are not taught, frustration levels (and PTSD from abuse) can lead to full ODD....the fact that the signs were ignored just to continue with a tv show that was trying to portray perfect tups with a perfect mommy is pathetic at best. I feel bad for Collin. A McMansion, trips, and Spas for mommy are not a substitute for love .....the richest "survivors" have said they would give up everything to have a normal childhood. Sad

TLC stinks said...

My feeling is that if Collin were so uncontrollable at school and at home, it is INEXCUSABLE that she continue the filming. A child admitted into a psychiatric hospital is in desperate trouble. Although we never saw anything on film that indicates violence or depression, it sure as hell has been going on for years, and yet that beast of a mother continued to aggravate the situation by keeping him from his father, isolating him from his siblings, dragging him on trips to film, etc. Are there issues with others in that household? It appears so. And yet, the beast acts like everything is A-OK. Freakin' unbelievable.

Tucker's Mom said...

We've discussed this a lot, but in my court, she'd be in contempt of court for not making sure all the children are attending their father's visitation. It isn't on her to put it on the kids who is going or not going. She is to transact the children to their father as instructed to in their family law order, every single time, and that's the end of it. No questioning them, no implying they have a choice, nothing. If there are any problems, she is to inform her lawyer.
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For the life of me, I can't figure out why Kate hasn't been found in contempt for this. Also, I really don't like how Kate is putting the onus on the kids for this.
Ultimately, it's Kate's responsibility, yet she'll shrug it off and say, "hey, the kids are happier not going" as if she's got no say, nor duty, to produce the children for Jon's visitation time.

Sad but true said...

So this is what the Kate fans are saying to each other about the comments on Twitter from the Khaters.

Sandie ‏@SandieBellz 12h12 hours ago
No words. Get professional help.
[The Twitter comment I posted above is what was in here.]

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 39m39 minutes ago
@SandieBellz This is scary! Unbelievable the level of projecting their vicious scenarios of doom& gloom upon a mother seeking help 4her son!

Sandie‏@SandieBellz
@MiloandJack I’m stunned someone would actually say something like that. Horrifying.

CarleneMarie ‏@CarleneMarie_1 2m2 minutes ago
@SandieBellz @MiloandJack Truly horrifying.
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WTF took Kate so long to get him help, Doofus? Was it FILMING perhaps? For the sake of the TV show maybe? They will never acknowledge K8's very central role in Collin's situation. Sad but true.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate very reluctantly admits that laundry is somewhat better now that they are older but then tries to explain it's actually pretty bad still because even though it's a lot less frequent, the clothes got bigger. She actually says this. Heh. She cannot let anything go without making sure she's the martyr.
******
I don't believe that Kate always does laundry, or is even the primary doer of laundry.
She says she is without help when she doesn't have a FT employee. Do I think she's got no one helping in that how now that Andrea is gone?
Uh, no.
I'd say the kids are old enough to do their own laundry, but I don't know how many other chores and toilets they have one their lists.

Tucker's Mom said...

They had a historical blizzard? Haha. I think doofus here means historic. Historical just means, like, the past, Kate.

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It was February and it was a lot of snow, but historic? I don't know about that.

Tucker's Mom said...

Radar must be pretty darn sure of where Colin is, don't you think? They've been dropping details, numerous times.
From Kate's very lackluster responses to Colin's progress, it doesn't seem like he'll be home anytime soon.

Tucker's Mom said...

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/kate-gosselin-collin-facility-accused-patients-escape/

I put the blame squarely on Kate's shoulders, for this awful circus that she's turned Colin's situation into.
Kate and Kate alone decided to splash this on the front cover of People magazine, speak of it numerous times and continue to film.
What a travesty.

Tucker's Mom said...

RoxyHelen said... 19
Well, Collin's life is going to be damn hard from here on out. It doesn't matter if he'll get better, he'll still forever be the "insane sextuplet Collin from that jon and kate plus 8 show".
((((((((
Exactly, Roxy. As if Colin wasn't stigmatized enough when he got kicked out of school and eventually had to be home schooled separate from his brothers and sisters.
Now he's weekly tabloid fodder because his mother refused to stop with filming, fame and the gravy train.

Turn out the lights said...

I just don't get it!
Why she doesn't want the father of her children to see the kids on his visitation time defies all common sense and logic.
I can see why the twins wouldn't want to go-- and it's not because of Jon. I'm sure they enjoy having those weekends away from 'the little kids'. That house is constant yelling and chaos. With the little kids gone, the house is quiet, they can sleep in, maybe go to the spa or shopping with Kate.
I'm not excusing it but I can certainly understand the twins wanting some time away from the constant togetherness.
Perhaps a better solution is Jon get the twins every other weekend. True that means he has some of the kids every weekend, but if you have 8 kids sometimes different arrangements need to be made. And this would be good for Kate too, she could have time with each set of multiples.

Vanessa said...

She says she is without help when she doesn't have a FT employee. Do I think she's got no one helping in that how now that Andrea is gone?
Uh, no. 
I'd say the kids are old enough to do their own laundry, but I don't know how many other chores and toilets they have one their list
****
I'm with you there, she still has sticky notes all over the washer and dryer

Tucker's Mom said...

WTF took Kate so long to get him help, Doofus? Was it FILMING perhaps? For the sake of the TV show maybe? They will never acknowledge K8's very central role in Collin's situation. Sad but true.
******
Count me as someone who thinks Kate's back was against the wall before she sent Colin away. I bet she resisted breaking up the 6-pack as long as she possibly could.

Sad but true said...

Head just popped out of the foxhole.

Kate Gosselin‏@Kateplusmy8 18m18 minutes ago
ALL NEW #KatePlus8 on @TLC TONIGHT 10/9c ...Tweet party right here, during the show! Tweet ya then!:)
https://instagram.com/p/BNrrLk8DG3W/

The photo is of all six kids in a tree. It looks kind of old to me, but hard to tell. New Orleans was spring break? Is that when it was reported she was seen there? That would have been in March, not August, as I was assuming. So maybe Collin was still home then. It's all so mysterious, isn't it? Why can't she just tell the truth for a change?

kateplusmy8 ALL NEW #KatePlus8 on @tlc TONIGHT 10/9c #LiveTweetParty #NewOrleans #SpringBreak #FromMomsPicCollection #MyBabiesAreSoGrownUp

lisrom_96Collins Back!!!! Praise God.🙏🏻

Not so fast, lisrom.

Tucker's Mom said...

http://uhsbehindcloseddoors.org/item/fairmount-behavioral-health-system/

If Colin is in Fairmount Behavioral Health, the online reviews are scathing, and very frightening.

Kate is a twit said...

Kate made an IG post promoting tonight's show. The picture she used is apparently from their New Orleans trip, and Collin is in the picture.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNrrLk8DG3W/

kateplusmy8ALL NEW #KatePlus8 on @tlc TONIGHT 10/9c #LiveTweetParty #NewOrleans #SpringBreak #FromMomsPicCollection #MyBabiesAreSoGrownUp

Already some of her followers are getting excited because they seem to think that Collin has returned home.

lisrom_96Collins Back!!!! Praise God.🙏🏻

nikkie1473COLIN!!!!! ❤️

khendlejadeCollin💙

That is the problem with them showing the episodes out of order-an episode filmed in May, followed by an episode filmed in March.

Tucker's Mom said...

lisrom_96Collins Back!!!! Praise God.🙏🏻

Not so fast, lisrom.
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Get a clue! This was before Colin was sent away, and he's not back.
I think this was spring break. There was a Twitter sighting of them in New Orleans.

Vanessa said...

Kate made an IG post promoting tonight's show. The picture she used is apparently from their New Orleans trip, and Collin is in the picture.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNrrLk8DG3W/

kateplusmy8ALL NEW #KatePlus8 on @tlc TONIGHT 10/9c #LiveTweetParty #NewOrleans #SpringBreak #FromMomsPicCollection #MyBabiesAreSoGrownUp

Already some of her followers are getting excited because they seem to think that Collin has returned home.

lisrom_96Collins Back!!!! Praise God.🙏🏻

nikkie1473COLIN!!!!! ❤️

khendlejadeCollin💙

That is the problem with them showing the episodes out of order-an episode filmed in May, followed by an episode filmed in March.
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Just what tfw wanted, she's duped the sheep into thinking Collin is back...like some character on a daytime soap. If she can con anyone, even one person, she's got her narc supply. They confirm for her lies she wants to be thruth, they confirm her delusions. She'll take whatever any flying monkey will give her.

Sad but true said...

Hahaha, I thought so.

jpjt94cYou people do realize this is an old photo right?Hence why Kate has the hashtag #frommomspicCollection

TLC stinks said...

TLC thinks their audience is stoopid. Yeah, right idiots, Collin is home.

I am confident Radar knows where Collin is and it was easy to do a search. Obviously Jon knows now too. As to whether he's been allowed to visit, that may not have happened. These behavioral hospitals are the place of last resort for disturbed children. I still cannot believe Collin was that bad, but if he was, why the heck did she drag him to New Orleans? Wasn't the heavy rainfall and flooding back in March? During the kids' spring break?

Kate is a twit said...

I'm not still not convinced that ROL knows where Collin is. How could they find out, if Jon doesn't even know?

To me it seems like they just picked a facility near Philadelphia out of their hat, and decided they would use what goes on at that facility to further their stories about Collin. The stories aren't specifically about Collin, they're just generic references about some place that treats problem children.

They say in the article that they won't reveal where Collin is due to privacy reasons. I think it's more that they have no proof Collin is there, and are just speculating that he might be.

So I would take what ROL says with a big grain of salt.

Kate is a twit said...

Preview clip of tonight's show:

http://extratv.com/videos/0-s2rcevz6/

We get to watch the kids pack for their trip and Kate moan about it--YAY!!

TLC could have saved some money and just aired previous clips of them packing instead of filming new ones.

Blowing In The Wind said...


Already some of her followers are getting excited because they seem to think that Collin has returned home.

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Are these people under the impression that these shows are live, or just recently filmed? Such doofuses!

Anonymous said...

I agree with Tucker's Mom @38. I have just read the reviews and this facility must be a terrifying experience for precious Collin. If this place was chosen by her for "insurance purposes" that makes her decision even more heartless calculating than usual.

bm

Jamesvader1194 said...

For those who don't know,i have an IG account thats jpjt94.I don't post anything but i usually follow other accounts.I was the one who called milo out before with Leah's note and try to correct the fans on this new post.I have to say this Carlene Kate fan is one of the strangest fans i've seen.She defended Milo before by claiming how milo was only defending her "friend" Kate.Ever since then she followed me on IG(for some reason)and now she reply to me with this comment which is it me or does it sound passive aggressive? carleneigras1 @jpjt94 Thank you for enlightening us.

CC said...

Wow. Poor Collin. I can't imagine that poor kid in that place. It's not even a step above living with Kate. Or maybe it is. I just feel for that kid. He does not deserve this sucky life.

So now the public knows where Collin is, and it's not the public's fault. It's not Radar Online's fault. It's Kate's fault. She had NO business going to the media and announcing that he was in a facility for behavioral problems. The ONLY reason she went public was to explain Collin's absence from her tv show still exploiting her other 7 children. As for all the speculation as to Collin's problems... Kate's fault. SHE did this. Ugh.

CC said...

"Collins Back!!!" Kate's fans are imbeciles.

locaylyocul said...

Here it is. This is where Collin is: Fairmount Behavioral Health.

http://pennrecord.com/stories/510551358-mental-health-patient-who-injured-himself-during-escape-sues-facility

(((

Yes, that's where I figured as well by googling some of the wording from ROL. I think I had surmised that place before as well.

locaylyocul said...

http://www.phila.gov/health/foodprotection/FoodSafetyReports.html

Search Fairmount

RoxyHelen said...

I think this episode will be the most telling one. There's no Collin in the preview. If the picture was taken during this trip but Collin does not show up in the episode, what does that say? That they edited out any gootage of him? Even in the premiere episode, the camera avoided collin and there were no close ups of him. TLC already knew he had some kind of difficulties.

just dropping in said...

Just saw this on Blind Gossip. Who does this sound like? http://blindgossip.com/?p=82365#more-82365

Jillygee said...

Collin isn't even n that promo clip , unless I missed him. There were two boys on the sofa. She's gaslighting again w that IG pic. I'm guessing they went to NOLA without C.

RoxyHelen said...

I was just on Kate's twitter to make sure before I say anything: remember her photo about the sextuplets' 12th birthday? She snapped a picture of 6 decorated chairs and talked about celebrating the 6. Everyone thought she didn't post a pic of the kids because they were with jon but now it's kind of obvious there was no picture because Collin wasn't home anymore.
Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8
Getting ready 4 the 12th BIRTHDAY BASH..Cooking, baking,decorating for 6 of the 1's I L❤️VE! #HappyBirthdayMyBabies

Last picture of Collin was on April 9th. Tups b-day is on May 12th. So I think it's safe to assume Collin went away somewhere between mid April and early May.

Kate is a twit said...

Wow, Milo's getting a little nasty on Kate's IG.

spalmer0829You are a lying liar who lies... is Collin as of today 12-6-2016 back at your family home?

miloandjack2016Please read her post @spalmer0829... She SAID the pic was from #SpringBreak. Now apologize. No need to call anyone a liar w/out facts.

First, who the hell does she think she is by telling this person they should apologize to Kate?

Second, how many times has Milo called Jon a liar without knowing any facts?

Nicky said...

See, and this is where she is stupid, and has no idea how to capitalize on her "fame", and drive ratings to her show. While it would be deplorable, she could have given herself a new platform as a mom dealing with a child with behavioural issues, etc. What impact it has on the family, etc.

And - what heartless, hateful B**ch would rather send her son to an institution, than to swallow her pride and tell her Ex that she needs help. What a spiteful woman. C was never a factor in this decision - it's all about her. She doesn't "do everything for her kids", she does everything for herself, and loves her hatred for Jon more than she loves her son.

This is truly a train wreck.

locaylyocul said...

just dropping in said... 54
Just saw this on Blind Gossip. Who does this sound like? http://blindgossip.com/?p=82365#more-82365

((

Oh wow. I still think H's broken arm right before he got sent away is awfully coincidental

locaylyocul said...

How many times have we watched them pack suitcases for an all expense-paid, nanny-helper-paid trip? ZZZZZZZ

Tucker's Mom said...

They say in the article that they won't reveal where Collin is due to privacy reasons. I think it's more that they have no proof Collin is there, and are just speculating that he might be.
******
Plus, if they do, someone violated HIPAA and that would trigger an investigation with far-reaching effects.

JoyinVirginia said...

Admin, thank you for the recap. I'm sure it was more entertaining than the fifty seventh look back recap episode. It is just an appalling train wreck, and any fans who can't see that are either on the TLC payroll or seriously in denial.

Kate is a twit said...

Jillygee said... 51
Collin isn't even n that promo clip , unless I missed him. There were two boys on the sofa. She's gaslighting again w that IG pic. I'm guessing they went to NOLA without C.
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Collin did go to New Orleans. He was shown several times in the preview clip that TLC aired at the end of last week's show.

Tucker's Mom said...

http://blindgossip.com/?p=82365#more-82365

Hard to imagine who else it cold be. I really, really hope Colin didn't so bad that he tried to hurt someone.

locaylyocul said...

What picture are you guys referring to that C is in for New Orleans?

Tucker's Mom said...

CC said... 49
Wow. Poor Collin. I can't imagine that poor kid in that place. It's not even a step above living with Kate. Or maybe it is. I just feel for that kid. He does not deserve this sucky life.
*****
I don't know much of anything about these type of facilities and commitment to them, but it seems like they own you once you sign on the dotted line (or are committed involuntarily).
You'd have to be truly desperate to hand a child over to this place.

Tucker's Mom said...

The ONLY reason she went public was to explain Collin's absence from her tv show still exploiting her other 7 children. As for all the speculation as to Collin's problems... Kate's fault. SHE did this. Ugh.
December 6, 2016 at 10:07 AM
*******
Totally agree. This awful, weekly barrage of tabloid articles and speculation rests on Kate's shoulders.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Awww, so TFW posted a picture of the tups in a tree, like the circus monkeys they are?

KIAT (#45), shucks, if they're going to show the kids packing for a trip, I may have to lift my moratorium and actually watch the show.
Because the sounds like Must See TV, worthy of the bestest Tweet Party evah!
And once again, ol' Tonedeaf Tillie doesn't realize she's not relatable when her struggling-single-mom self is packing for yet another vacation for 9. She can hashtag it all she wants, but that is not what most of her viewers are experiencing in their own #MomLife.

Tucker's Mom said...

http://extratv.com/videos/0-s2rcevz6/
******
Even Kate seems bored to tears with the same old sh*t being said and done over and over. I mean, how much are you being paid to sit on your basement throne and talk?
A little enthusiasm and inflection wouldn't kill you, would it?

Tucker's Mom said...

Where's Deanna been, btw? She's awfully silent and absent. No sign of her in the preview. Just the usual nanny.
Oh, and it doesn't always happen that there's another hired adult there when Kate films her lux excursions? Baloney! Name one TLC trip where there hasn't been help.
C'mon!
Kate just can't help lying about how much help she gets.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

KIAT (#57), Gladys' claws are coming out. How dare she tell another grown adult, who was not addressing HER, to apologize? She thinks that endears her to her true love, but it makes TFW look like an idiot who can't fight her own battles. How obnoxious.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I just looked at the Radar article, and thought once again that part of TFW's horrific treatment of this child is that he resembles his dad. She looks at him and sees Jon -- the ONE person she has not been able to "delete." Think about it.

Kate is a twit said...

I think the fans are going to be more confused than ever after watching this episode. Collin will be shown in the New Orleans episode, but only Joel and Aaden are seen doing the couch interviews.

Of course, the couch interviews were done in September. In the Extra preview, you can see the date 9-17-16 on the clapboard that Aaden is holding.

I wonder if Kate will speak more about Collin being gone during her couch interviews. Something like "I was so happy he was able to go on this vacation with us. Unfortunately, we did not know at the time that it would be the last time for a while", or something to that effect.

BTW, she just had to trash the boys again when talking about packing, didn't she? Speaking about how the girls can pack for themselves but the boys always need help, and how clueless they are about matching things and that they don't "understand the concept between a play outfit versus a go-away outfit".

WTF?

TLC stinks said...

just dropping in, ITA. I hope the family member he hurt was his mother.

TLC stinks said...

The "source" could be pulling Radar's leg, Kate is a twit, but I know for a fact that they do check out their tips ;)

However, the facility isn't going to confirm Collin is a patient there. I do believe that is where she's parked him and Radar must have some confidence in their source.

BTW, wanna bet Uncle Steve is responsible for physically taking him to the facility?

CC said...

Wow that Blind Gossip tidbit!

Layla said...

Kate has obviously read the messages from viewers who said they will not watch because of Collin. So she posted a photo with him in it to mislead them. She doesn't care that the photo is misleading. She only cares about getting people to watch so she can keep the gravy train going.

In her mind, it's not really lying if she doesn't say he's there--it's just implied by the picture. But she knows people will assume he is. She knows her fans are not smart enough to figure out what she's doing. Will they fall for it? I guess we'll know when the ratings come out tomorrow. I'm curious to see how they react when they watch and he's not there. Will there be any anger over being deceived? That's what I want to know. How far will they let her push them?

Sad but true said...

Getting some heat on IG. Too hot to delete every one, K8?

spalmer0829 You are a lying liar who lies... is Collin as of today 12-6-2016 back at your family home?

miloandjack2016 Please read her post @spalmer0829... She SAID the pic was from #SpringBreak. Now apologize. No need to call anyone a liar w/out facts.

miloandjack2016 LOL. This looks like something from #jurassicpark!! What are they climbing up on? @kateplusmy8

pc08@spalmer0829 you are a dumb dumbass, there's such a thing as uploading old pictures.

jpjt94@Carleneigras1 Just correcting the fans who are claiming Collin is back and think its new.

mostyn67Kateplus 8 is no more .Its Kate plus SEVEN

Hey Milo! If you're reading here, step the f--- off, bitch. Why don't you apologize to JON for the many many lies you've spread against him?

Kate is a twit said...

Preview of the "giving back" portion of tonight's show.

http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/kate-plus-8/videos/time-to-give-back/

The kids are helping restore a house and help with painting. It's like a "Habitat for Humanity" for kids.

Didn't someone here say that's probably what they would be doing?

Of course, Kate waxes on how she is always excited to give back whenever they can.

Kate is a twit said...

BTW, Collin is in the preview clip that TLC posted.

Sad but true said...

Tucker's Mom said... 62
Where's Deanna been, btw? She's awfully silent and absent. No sign of her in the preview. Just the usual nanny.
_____

She's onto bigger and better things. Give her credit, she can recognize a sinking ship when she sees one. I saw she's done make-up for Inside Amy Schumer. She might ride that client somewhere.

Sad but true said...

Tucker's Mom said... 62
. . . Oh, and it doesn't always happen that there's another hired adult there when Kate films her lux excursions?
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Is she saying that SKEVE wasn't there? Or that he doesn't count as an adult? :)

Layla said...

So apparently Colin is on the New Orleans trip but is not there for the couch interviews. Maybe Kate and TLC decided to mix it up a bit, hoping that people will watch to catch glimpses of C.

I bet she hasn't answered any questions about whether he is back now. Nor will she. She loves to keep them guessing. "You'll have to watch and see!" I hope the ratings tank.


Sad but true said...

So TLC posted on the K8 FB page a clip entitled "Time to Give Back" (again!). I have to mute it when H8 is speaking, but Collin is pictured as part of the group and once, lingeringly, alone. It is not clear if he was actually present for when they're painting the house.

CS said...

Kate Gosselin's Tough Decision: Why Her Son Is Away Getting Help
Collin is currently “enrolled in a program that is helping him learn the skills he needs to be the best him he can be,” she says. “We miss him so much, so it’s been hard because there is a huge hole in our family without him here. But it comforts us to know he’s where he needs to be right now, and I can feel good about that.”

“When your kids go to college, do you miss them? Yes, but you reassure yourself that they are getting so much out of it,” she says. “And that’s the same sort of investment I feel like I’ve made Collin’s future.
Kate,
How comforted and good are you feeling now that you have been exposed? “ Enrolled in a program,” No he is NOT enrolled in a program. He is locked up in a psychiatric hospital!
I'm sure that in your sick mind you thought that if C was locked up he wouldn't be able to expose you as the monster that you are. How's that working out for you now?

just wondering said...

I thought he was at The Belmont Behavior Hospital & was taking on line classes. I'm so confused now.

http://www.belmontbehavioral.com/programs/inpatient/

CC said...

I don't think Radar Online is just speculating where Collin is. I think they know. They also knew that he was moved from a better one to a closer one for insurance reasons only.

Sad but true said...

just wondering said... 86

Where did you get that? Just curious, I have also seen people speculating that he's in the Milton Hershey Institute, so there's a fair number of possible locations floating around out there. But if ROL's info is accurate, it sure sounds like psychiatric facility to me.

Sad but true said...

Well, I'm betting that all those happy holidays at h8's (I love the new logo!) with all eight PLUS the grandkids will never happen now. I hope that for his own sake, Collin never has to go near this raging bitch again. And I hope that he is allowed to see and spend time with his dad and his siblings ASAP.

Sad but true said...

LOL, on the TLC h8 FB page, someone just now added this caption above the photo of the "Time to Give Back" clip:

"On tonight's Kate Plus 8, Kate teaches the kids how important it is to spread love and help others."

I daresay THAT's gonna generate some comments TLC would wish it hadn't.

Sad but true said...

I think they're starting to put two and two together. From the FB page:

XXXXX ...I wonder why Kate doesn't ever go into what problems he was having...could it be emotional problems...anger issues related to his emotions...or ADHD....or a sleeping disorder...or OCD...etc etc..I think it's kind of odd...that all of a sudden...he needs help...and she can't help him...even though she has a nursing background...but it seems odd that she doesn't discuss what problems he was having...or was it maybe...problems she was having with him...if he had become uncontrollable at home...with outburst of anger or whatever...then she surely wouldn't want to discuss the situation...knowing that he had been struggling with too much adult issues forced upon him...such as separation anxiety...from his parents divorce...feeling the pressure from Kate to always be perfect...living in a household...with constant screaming...yelling...controlling...has got to be very hard....and aggravating....It's a wonder all of the kids haven't had stomach issues...headaches...etc...from the stress of always having to please their mom...

CC said...

Belmont? Where did that come from?Radar listed specific incidents that led to the other facility.

Belmont site only lists the following:

Upon admission to one of Belmont Behavioral Hospital’s inpatient programs, patients will partake in various treatment methods and receive the stabilizing care needed to heal and recover from the following mental health disorders:

Substance use disorders
Anxiety disorders
Bipolar disorder
Depressive disorders
Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD)
Posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD)
Schizophrenia

Anonymous said...

Re the Blind Gossip article - "Keeping the situation vague can still be used to the family's advantage for a while longer." Vague = misleading fans, yes that K8.

bm

Nicky said...

Remembering that C is 12, unless he has some severe mental condition, him trying to harm another person must be taken into context. The poor boy is probably so full of anxiety, that he lashes out in frustration. Could he have hurt a sibling? Possibly. Was it intentional - I really don't think so. Yes, he has to learn to regulate his emotions, but I ask again - how can she help him when she's not involved?

She needed to have compassion for C, not disappointment and disgust in his behaviour.

Vanessa said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 72

I just looked at the Radar article, and thought once again that part of TFW's horrific treatment of this child is that he resembles his dad. She looks at him and sees Jon -- the ONE person she has not been able to "delete." Think about it.
*****
Ha, interesting Flimsy, I've always thought Collin looked the most like khate. Same nose, chin, eye shape...
And my theory is subconsciously she is so self loathing she hates the one who most resembles her!

jamezvader1194 said...

@Layla Its been 4 hours since Kate tweeted about the new episode on twitter and it only has 76 hearts.Gee for someone who has over 265k followers she sure didn't get a whole lot of feedback and there is 4 tweeters who commented.2 negative and 2 positive.Well then.

Tucker's Mom said...

http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/kate-plus-8/videos/time-to-give-back/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=kateplus8&sf45113390=1

The girls look THRILLED to be there "helping". Not.
Oh, and Kate's all about giving back. Again, when filming. I bet she does sh*t when there's no one filming.
It looks like a whole lot more work for the people in New Orleans than it was help.
This was just Kate putting a bucket list trip together with some nugget of "volunteering" and "giving back" for sincerity's sake.

The jig's up. She's a taker, not a giver, and will never repay what's been given to her.

Tucker's Mom said...

Of course, Kate waxes on how she is always excited to give back whenever they can.
****
And by "whenever they can", she means, whenever TLC is paying for it.

Tucker's Mom said...

BTW, she just had to trash the boys again when talking about packing, didn't she? Speaking about how the girls can pack for themselves but the boys always need help, and how clueless they are about matching things and that they don't "understand the concept between a play outfit versus a go-away outfit".

WTF?
******
Yes, wtf. She never misses a chance to tell everyone how inferior boys are to girls.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Tucker's Mom (#95), and whenever there are cameras there to film it. Again, if TFW tries to convince us they were there helping all day, I won't believe it. The kids, maybe. Her? No effing way.

Tucker's Mom said...

KIAT (#45), shucks, if they're going to show the kids packing for a trip, I may have to lift my moratorium and actually watch the show.
******
OMG, the clips look absolutely droll. Kids painting. Wow. The tup girls and Kate seemed like they were sleep walking through their couch interviews.

Tucker's Mom said...

And how weird was it for the kids to have to do episode commentary when they know Colin didn't make it to that portion of the shit show in September?

just wondering said...

I'm not positive where the trail started. I was reading an article & in the comments someone posted that they knew where Collin was. I found this person again on another article where she said he was in Belmont. I thought Belmont was a city somewhere.

Then all this talk about being somewhere in Philadelphia started popping up so I googled Belmont in Philly.

Belmont does have inpatient child facilities along with school options. It was just a guess, and it fit pretty well, I thought.
http://www.belmontbehavioral.com/programs/inpatient/

Guess I was wrong.

Anonymous said...

Vanessa,

I always thought Collin looked the most like Kate too lol They definitely have the same nose and eyes.

-ajw

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Back to Admin's recap...so TFW stands there and has each kid kiss and hug her goodbye at the bus stop? That, my friends, is called damage control. I don't believe this ritual for one second. C already busted her when he said he likes to hug his mother, but she won't let him. Nope -- don't believe it for a second.

Localyocul said...

I think Joel looks exactly like Jon these days

Vanessa said...

She needed to have compassion for C, not disappointment and disgust in his behaviour.
******
Yes, just like SHE wants the world to pity her, feel sorry for her, show her compassion for ABUSING her CHILDREN...only SHE is permitted to be so stressed out that she loses all control
Hypocritical bitch

Kate is a twit said...

CC said... 87
I don't think Radar Online is just speculating where Collin is. I think they know. They also knew that he was moved from a better one to a closer one for insurance reasons only.
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It was InTouch who said that Kate moved him to a closer place--not ROL.

I'm still skeptical of both stories. The only thing that I hope is that Jon finally knows where Collin is and will be able to get a court order to let him see him.

Tucker's Mom said...

It's funny to see Kate's hair change from clip to clip. In between having her hair pulled tightly back, it suddenly goes from that to this thick, uber-straight and lengthened broom.

Vanessa said...

I don't think Radar Online is just speculating where Collin is. I think they know. They also knew that he was moved from a better one to a closer one for insurance reasons only.
****
I think they most definitely know, they're just covering their a$$e$

Kate is a twit said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 7m7 minutes ago
When we thought #KatePlus8 couldn't get any crazier?? NEW episode Tues. 10pm @TLC Hold on #MoreFun! @Kateplusmy8
============

Here Milo, I fixed your tweet:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 7m7 minutes ago
When we thought #KateGosselin couldn't get any crazier?? NEW episode Tues. 10pm @TLC Hold on #MoreInsanity! @Kateplusmy8

CS said...


just dropping in said... 54
Just saw this on Blind Gossip. Who does this sound like?
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Clearly he is referring to the Gosselin family.

This is what I think happened.

Kate was abusing C and he probably SNAPPED. She may have hit him and he either assaulted her or began tearing up the house in a fit of rage. Maybe that’s where the Zip ties came in.

Kate called the police and told them that C was out of control and violent and that he needed to be removed from the home. The police officer then placed C in protective custody.

CPS was notified and custody was then transferred to CPS. This is now an emergency situation and the social worker has to find a facility that has a bed available as soon as possible.

None of us really know if C was in fact ever placed 7 hours away from home do we? If that was the case then that was probably the only facility that had a bed available. The quality of care is not a consideration.

C starts counseling and begins to tell the therapist what happened and about the abuse. The therapist reports the abuse and now Kate is under investigation for child abuse.

At this point Kate has no rights when it comes to deciding where C is placed. If C is now at Fairmount Behavioral Health System he has been placed there by the state. NOT Kate!

According to bing map Fairmount is only 66 miles from the family home. A one hour and 13 minute drive.

It's possible that a bed did become available and C has been transferred closer so that he, his case worker and team are available for court appearances. No way did Kate move him because of the insurance. She is under investigation for child abuse!
Unfortunately, unless C can be placed with a relative he will have to remain in the hospital. Hopefully, Jon will be able to resolve this when he goes to trial.

If C had initially been removed from the home due to child abuse he would have been placed with a relative or in foster care along with the other 7 kids, not locked up in a hospital.

Kate can spin this any way she wants to, but the truth will eventually be told.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

KIAT (#111), if Gladys was a decent PR person, she'd point up the giving back aspect of the episode. But, nope -- things are just gettin CRAZIER!! Sorry, Gladys, no Christmas bonus for you.

jamezvader1194 said...

@KIAT Well at least milo got one thing right.When we thought #Kateplus8 couldn't get crazier until the more stuff about what she did to Collin with the zip ties came out.

Kate is a twit said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 113
KIAT (#111), if Gladys was a decent PR person, she'd point up the giving back aspect of the episode. But, nope -- things are just gettin CRAZIER!! Sorry, Gladys, no Christmas bonus for you.
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She probably doesn't know about the "giving back" part of the episode. The episode description doesn't even mention it. All the description says is "The Gosselins take on New Orleans! They enjoy the food, culture and learn some southern etiquette along the way."

Give her time. After she reads about it here, I'm sure she'll tweet a link to the clip.

CC said...

Maybe it was just the angle but the kids were up on scaffolds painting, and it looked somewhat high. Aren't there safety regulations for children filming?

TLC stinks said...

CS, makes perfect sense.

Kate is a twit said...

pc08@spalmer0829 you are a dumb dumbass, there's such a thing as uploading old pictures.

This comment on Kate's IG is from Paige.

Now Milo's getting flak:

jpjt94@Miloandjack2016 @spalmer0829 Hey milo,why don't you apologize to Jon for the amount of lies you've spread about him?Such as your claim that Kate had a restraining order against him.

barbarah46Milo, or whoever you are, what gives you the right to tell another adult to apologize? You are such a tool. I agree with jpjt94, why is it all right for you to call Jon a liar but it's not ok for someone to call Kate a liar.

Nicky said...

Vanessa said... 107
She needed to have compassion for C, not disappointment and disgust in his behaviour.
******
Yes, just like SHE wants the world to pity her, feel sorry for her, show her compassion for ABUSING her CHILDREN...only SHE is permitted to be so stressed out that she loses all control
Hypocritical bitch
________________________________________________________

Preach, sistah!

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I'm guessing TFW can't get away with just being, as M called her, "queen bee," ruling
from her plastic white throne at this gig. Poor Schmoopie probably had to pick up a paintbrush. Like literally.

Tucker's Mom said...

CC said... 116
Maybe it was just the angle but the kids were up on scaffolds painting, and it looked somewhat high. Aren't there safety regulations for children filming?
******
I saw one of the boys up on scaffolding, which I'm sure is not OSHA approved. I think Kate left for another house at some point. Like she's going to paint walls for more than 5 minutes.
"OK. Can we stop playing let's film me painting and pretending to volunteer and help me?!!!"

Sad but true said...

CS said... 112

None of us really know if C was in fact ever placed 7 hours away from home do we?
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Seven hours away from where Kate lives is out of the state of PA altogether. So I don't think that would happen if it was an emergency and CPS was involved. I think that must have been what she initially chose.

Kate is a twit said...

CC said... 116
Maybe it was just the angle but the kids were up on scaffolds painting, and it looked somewhat high. Aren't there safety regulations for children filming?
==================

Don't know about Louisiana laws re minors filming, but the group that does the rebuilding requires that a waiver be signed by a parent, which I'm sure Kate happily did.

The group is call Youth Builders New Orleans. Here's a link to their volunteer handbook which also includes a waiver for the parent to sign.

http://yrno.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/YRNO-Volunteer-Handbook-for-Volunteers.pdf

This a part of what it says:

Age: Children under the age of 15 are not permitted at a worksite while construction is ongoing without being accompanied by an adult that is at least 21 years of age.

Volunteers ages 16 and 17 are allowed to participate in construction work, including general carpentry,
but will not be allowed to participate in excavation, demolition, use of power tools, or work at
heights above 12 feet.


Liability Waivers: Waivers must be completed by all volunteers prior to beginning any tasks at a worksite. Volunteers under the age of 18 must have the waiver signed by a parent or guardian. A copy of this waiver can be found at the end of this Volunteer Handbook.

Jane said...

Has this post from 2010 been posted lately? In light of all that's going on, thought this was interesting.

http://www.realitytvkids.com/2010/05/chronology-of-collin-hiding-his-face.html

Sad but true said...

From IG:

guion_rd The show was great when it started then the divorce an now all you r is a gold digging ..... Why not get a suger daddy an you will be ok

Vanessa said...

everyone. It is imperative that the public generally like the family. Therefore, it’s better to have him go away for treatment; keep him at arm’s length from everyone else; discuss his condition in vague or contradictory terms; and only allow him around the family when he is fully medicated and fully supervised.

The matriarch might eventually disclose what happened… but not quite yet. Keeping the situation vague can still be used to the family’s advantage for a while longer.
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Oh I am SURE see will blah blah blah gladly, gleefully GIDDILY (you can use that one khate) if it's "to the family's advantage". They're testing the waters. So awful. Whoever said up thread that this is his.life sentence was right!

Sad but true said...

Another post from TLC on the h8 FB page.

Do you remember how it was when they were just 8 little ones running around? So much has changed for #KatePlus8!

Wowser said...

TFW is confusing the kids with herself...she's the one who is "tunnel-visioned"!! Where the HELL did this woman learn English? Everything that comes out of her mouth is cringeworthy! Lord!!

Vanessa said...

Wow. Dr Phil today. ..tfw this us your future

http://www.drphil.com/videos/sisters-claim-mom-abused-them-for-20-years-mom-says-she-doesnt-remember/

Sad but true said...

Vanessa said... 126

Oh I am SURE see will blah blah blah gladly, gleefully GIDDILY (you can use that one khate) if it's "to the family's advantage". They're testing the waters.
____

You can bet that if TLC is dropping her, she's going to be looking for someone to take another chance on her for a book. I'm sure the outline has been ghostwritten already.

Sad but true said...

TLC is rerunning last week's episode at 6 pm EST tonight. I wonder what that will churn up on Twitter.

Turn out the lights... said...

The Blind Gossip article has to be the G family crisis.
I wonder who he attacked?
It must have been pretty bad for her to call the authorities.
Boys sometimes scuffle, might hit one another, but parents can usually break it up.
It must have been really bad for him to be removed from the home.
B-A-D

Vanessa said...


You can bet that if TLC is dropping her, she's going to be looking for someone to take another chance on her for a book. I'm sure the outline has been ghostwritten already.
******
Yes. Instead of "I want you to know"

It'll be "WHAT DID I @$%&*#% TELL YOU!!!!"

Kate is a twit said...

Another preview clip from tonight's show:

http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/kate-plus-8-kate-gosselin-annoys-kids-with-bug-freak-out-w453868

Kate and the kids go to an insectarium. She says she researched the place online but really didn't know what to expect, but was still nervous about it. Kate, of course, freaks out, screaming, yelling, etc. etc. The kids do seem to be totally embarrassed.

I guess Kate forgot that they went to an insectarium in Philly several years ago. Guess "making memories" doesn't help you remember.

She freaked out then, too. I guess she thought that insectariums have become more Kate-friendly in the last 5 years?

T said...

New clip http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/kate-plus-8-kate-gosselin-annoys-kids-with-bug-freak-out-w453868
She's an idiot.

Sad but true said...

That clip posted on the TLC FB page of tonight's episode. Kate's on the couch twice in the 90 seconds, in different outfits. And we saw the pic of the two boys on the couch holding the clapper showing 09/17, talking about what they did last March. I bet this cost Figure 8 (and TLC) a lot of time and money to go back and try to decide how best to "deal with" the issues that Collin's absence has caused.

She tweeted on July 26 that the show was coming back in October. The season must have been fairly well cooked at that point. Then the People cover announced by Kate on August 24, and the shit hits the fan. Then on September 22 (on IG), she suddenly says it's coming back in January. They must have been deep into the couch re-takes at that point. Then whaddyaknow, there it is queued up for Thanksgiving week. I think the production people just don't give a hot damn anymore.

And the 6 pm rerun has generated just 9 comments on Twitter, two of which are from that Siobhan R fan, four from regular Khaters, and the rest just randoms. Pretty pathetic.

Tucker's Mom said...

Julie Patel ‏@JuliePatel3 4m4 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @TLC Watching last week's episode and sad that Collin isn't there. He shouldn't have missed his birthday/
*****
But, he did.
On the plus side, it's preserved forever on film!

Turn out the lights... said...

I wonder what happened for her to call the authorities?
I've seen 1 family scuffle between brothers. They were 16 and 20. They went at it, the mother stated yelling to stop. They eventually stopped. No one called the cops.


An in-law had a HUGE fight between his 3 sons last year. The dad DID call the cops. (all of the boys were over 18).
No one was hauled off. Nothing came of it.

So what happened at the compound??????

Vanessa said...

The Blind Gossip article has to be the G family crisis.
I wonder who he attacked?
It must have been pretty bad for her to call the authorities. 
Boys sometimes scuffle, might hit one another, but parents can usually break it up.
It must have been really bad for him to be removed from the home.
B-A-D
******
Not to mention he's not that big of a kid...yet. he's pretty small framed- Joel and Hannah and maybe Alexis are bigger than him

This incident could not have been the first. Shame shame SHAME on you khate. This poor kid needed help a long long time ago.

Jamesvader1194 said...

@Sad but true Im convince that the Siobhan person is a paid TLC employee because looking at their TL,not only do they literally talk about nothing but Kate(hell even milo once in a while talks about something else)but also this person only appears on twitter whenever Kate tweets or something about Kate is on T.V.

Sad but true said...

So that's where she is. As seen on Milo's IG page:

vdunigan3 Twitter suspended both of my accounts @vdunigan and @MsGoody2Shoes21. I don't know why.

I'm sure there's about a thousand people who'd be happy to fill her in.

CC said...

Kate will do ANYTHING for drama. I HATE insects. Especially leggy ones. And roaches. Ugh. I would never be in a room with insects out of locked containers. Especially when they want you to touch them. I'd be worried someone would think it would be hilarious to run over to me with one. And Kate touched one? Either Kate isn't really that afraid of them or she is just that willing to whore herself out for a storyline.

I saw the clip. Did they actually show the insect IN her hand? I watched the clip but I didn't see it in her hand. Just saw them about to do it and then her reaction. I'm just wondering if she really held one or not. Or if they just tickled her hand with something and she knew that but it was just to get a somewhat realistic reaction from her.

CC said...

Thanks KIAT,

I was wondering about the labor laws for filming and the safety etc for the kids as far as the acting/labor laws go.

CC said...

Wait... so children under 15 are allowed ON a construction site with an adult accompanying them.

And to actually PARTICIPATE they have to be 16 or 17. So the younger ones should not have been participating. Actually none of the kids were sixteen or over at that time. No? How were any of them allowed to participate in the construction or demolition?

Anonymous said...

Collin is the shortest kid next to Leah but that doesn't mean he's not strong physically. I think whatever happened, it had to do with him physically attacking Kate in some way possibly.

-ajw

localyocul said...

Goody got suspended? LOL

Lanc Native said...

You can bet that if TLC is dropping her, she's going to be looking for someone to take another chance on her for a book. I'm sure the outline has been ghostwritten already.

))))))

I'm betting that TLC keeps her around, despite this recent custody/abuse thing. She always emerges unscathed. You can't kill the boogeyman.

Tucker's Mom said...

I saw the clip. Did they actually show the insect IN her hand? I watched the clip but I didn't see it in her hand. Just saw them about to do it and then her reaction. I'm just wondering if she really held one or not. Or if they just tickled her hand with something and she knew that but it was just to get a somewhat realistic reaction from her.
*****
Same old tired plot device. Let's put Kate in a situation where she's sure to freak out for the cameras.
Jumping off buildings, bugs, anything that involves dirt...

Yawn.

localyocul said...

CC said... 142
Kate will do ANYTHING for drama. I HATE insects. Especially leggy ones. And roaches. Ugh. I would never be in a room with insects out of locked containers.

(((

And therefore, you wouldn't pick a place light that to go to. Especially after research. I hate seafood. The smell of it makes me gag. It's like me picking a seafood restaurant for dinner.

Kate is a twit said...

CC said... 144
Wait... so children under 15 are allowed ON a construction site with an adult accompanying them.

And to actually PARTICIPATE they have to be 16 or 17. So the younger ones should not have been participating. Actually none of the kids were sixteen or over at that time. No? How were any of them allowed to participate in the construction or demolition?
-----------------

From the clip, it looks like the only thing they were doing was painting. Maybe younger children are also allowed to do small clean up chores that doesn't involve heavy lifting.

Sad but true said...

H8 must've told Milo to lay low. It's only an hour til show time, and nary a peep. Not even on IG.

Lanc Native said...

For instance, while my mother did slip up and yell now and again, she tried not to, and my father never yelled at us at all. Not even once. When he disagreed with something we had done, we discussed it. He explained what he wanted us to do differently. And it worked. We listened to him. And I believe the reason that parenting style worked so well for him was because we developed a mutual respect where I knew I was free to make honest mistakes as kids will do, and he was free to help me correct them without anyone feeling upset or stressed out or nagged.

)))))))))))))

Did we have the same parents? ;)

Kate is a twit said...

Milo responded to Goody's post about being suspended from twitter. Seems another one bit the dust:

miloandjack2016So sorry @vdunigan3. Same thing happened to GeeWhiz and she has no idea WHY? Something not right about this??

GeeWhiz is the one who the haters "blackhearted busybodies" and worse and she was a big BV backer.

They really have to wonder why they were suspended?

Sad but true said...

Kate is a twit said... 153

It sounds like the backbone of H8's fan base is being taken out one by one. It's a conspiracy! Jimmy said so! LOL

Lanc Native said...

Jumping off buildings, bugs, anything that involves dirt...

Yawn.

)))))))))))))

Kate jumps off bugs? Sorry, the image of it just struck me as very funny!

Bring on the rum-spiked eggnog! "Tis the season!

Lanc Native said...

GeeWhiz is the one who the haters "blackhearted busybodies" and worse and she was a big BV backer.

((((((((((((((((

BITTER blackhearted busybodies.

I'm sure Milo, with BV's help, can have all of the suspended ones reinstated. He has power in the Twitter world.

Tucker's Mom said...

Is Kate's Twitter going to suddenly come alive at 10pm EST?
Because it is d.e.a.d now.
No one all atwitter with anticipation. No Milo countdown to bliss?

Sad but true said...

Ol' Brownie stepped in before Doofus. Hmm, with Kate in the Deep South, how is it again that she and Milo have never met? Is #SwampWitchHattie another of her aliases?

MKBrownlowAuthor ‏@MK_Brownlow 7m7 minutes ago
Don't forget to grab that remote at 10! @Kateplusmy8 NEW EPISODE is coming in 20 mins! I'm parked on the couch ready! Are you?! @TLC

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 51s52 seconds ago
Even #SwampWitchHattie is gettin' ready for this! #KatePlus8 headed down to the #BlackBayou #NewOrleans! 10pm @TLC More fun! @kateplusmy8

Sad but true said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 1m1 minute ago
@LEIGHSHAHAN1 @Kateplusmy8 LOL I'm so tired tonight! I hope I can handle this.... These young guns got the energy to tweet non-stop quick!

You out-tweeted Kate in both of the previous episodes, I'm sure you won't have a problem. And I think most of the "young guns" are in bed by 10.

localyocul said...

Lanc Native said... 156
GeeWhiz is the one who the haters "blackhearted busybodies" and worse and she was a big BV backer.

((((((((((((((((

BITTER blackhearted busybodies.

I'm sure Milo, with BV's help, can have all of the suspended ones reinstated. He has power in the Twitter world.

(((

Except BV has been banned! He's tried to come back a few times but keeps getting caught and banned.

Kate is a twit said...

I just looked at TLC's twitter timeline. Today they've had several promo tweets for both LPBW and Outdaughtered(at least 4 each), but the only thing they tweeted about Kate's show, was a retweet of the Extra preview clip.

However, I noticed these tweets.

JOANN MCINNIS ‏@JOANNMB20 15m15 minutes ago
@JenArnoldMD aw they are getting so big!! Will you be back on @TLC soon? Merry Christmas

Jennifer Arnold, MD ‏@JenArnoldMD 17m17 minutes ago
@JOANNMB20 @TLC We hope so! Filming now!

So it looks like they're filming new episodes of The Little Couple. How come Jen can tweet that they're filming, but Kate always has to tease and wink about it?

localyocul said...

tori ‏@tmpriest13 3m3 minutes ago
Kate Gosselin acts so bored and stuck up. I wanna say GIRL u are BLESSED to have this show as a form of income for ur family. #KatePlus8

jamezvader1194 said...

@KIAT (153) I guess all the Fuck Jon tweets was enough to get Msgoody suspended cause i really don't see how else she'd get suspended.I highly doubt the haters were spamming the report button.To be honest i have no clue how the reporting system works on twitter.

localyocul said...

Sod
‏@sodburger
Does Kate like her children? Like, at all? #KatePlus8

localyocul said...

I thought Milo was not tweeting at all because she's not using the hashtag that is shown on the screen: #kateplus8. I was watching that hashtag but she's just tweeting Kate LOL

localyocul said...

This guy is talking about the tragedy of Katrina in the neighborhood they are standing in...with wreckage around them, and they are not paying attention to him at all. They are all looking around like they are bored.

Kate is a twit said...

Best line of the night from Mady after Kate said the exception to having a phone at the dinner table would be when your a mother and have a sick child.

"This show should be called Kate makes 8 excuses, she always says 'but I'm the exception'..No, she's not!"

Original T said...

The couch interviews are all over the place! Different outfits, different hairstyles, etc. How many times did these poor children have to be subjected to these interrogations?

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Jennifer Oltjenbruns ‏@AFwife817 1m1 minute ago
@gizzygirl0318 @nochanceofrain @Kateplusmy8 @TLC More care right now. And perhaps the ex husband Jon could help out

=============

Can's stop chuckling over this one. I did decide, though, to stop banging my head on the wall when reading some of the insane tweets. I had too many holes in the drywall.

grandee4 said...

Hi y'all, how's everyone doing?
So glad I didn't know TFW was in my neck of the woods, she makes me sick. Wish someone would have thrown a crawfish at her.

I see Hannah has braces again. What about Joel's teeth, they have been needing attention for years.

If she is being investigated for child abuse, why is TLC airing her show? They were so quick to cancel others. I'm glad they did but hate that she can still slide by, ugh!

Jamesvader1194 said...

Thats pretty creepy Milo Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 10m10 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 Love watching Collin eat...he always has such a good appetite! :)

Susan1956 said...

Kate is a twit said... 73
I think the fans are going to be more confused than ever after watching this episode. Collin will be shown in the New Orleans episode, but only Joel and Aaden are seen doing the couch interviews.
*************************
So far, the shots of Colin have been very few and they seem to be hiding him towards the back. He does look heavily medicated.

I've been keeping track of the ads and the same ad for Toys-R-Us has been shown 4 times just tonight. Merci Chocolates 3 times. Twice each for Old Navy, Dunkin Donuts, Toyota, Hershey's, Macy's and Walmart.

Twice I can understand, but 4 times? I wonder if the advertisers are balking at their ads being shown during Kate + 8.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

And therefore, you wouldn't pick a place light that to go to. Especially after research. I hate seafood. The smell of it makes me gag. It's like me picking a seafood restaurant for dinner.

==============

So I guess a gift card for Bonefish Grill isn't on your Christmas wish list?

Sad but true said...

I think she got more tweets tonight than last week, maybe 350 (excluding herself and Doofus, who each tweeted about 40 times), but again, probably 25-30% were from haters. So, roughly the same as last week.

It is beyond sickening to watch how Milo tries to lead K8 with questions and comments all the way through. Like if she thinks K8 doesn't bring out a point enough, she just remarks on the same thing 3 or 4 times trying to "round out" Kate's description, or feelings, or something. Whatever she thinks she's doing, it's annoying as f---.

Someone just posted this photo of K8 +8 in NOLA. Sure doesn't appear to me like there's much wrong with Collin. And NO ONE on Twitter tonight mentioned that they saw anything amiss with him in the course of the episode. I find that totally bizarre.

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@cheftoya @TLCmeNow hey friend! Hope all is well with you and your family! Thanks again and you're SO gorgeous!:) #KatePlus8

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Sad but true (#158), Brownie doesn't realize that "grab that remote" can have another meaning. As in, maybe you're happily enjoying a show with a non-screeching family of multiples, and it ends, and you realize that the entitled, shrieking harpy is about to come on. And you GRAB THAT REMOTE so you don't have to hear her ungrateful, grating voice for one second.

Sad but true said...

Here's a few interesting Twitter exchanges.

Kate trying to be funny:

Nicole Hoch ‏@NicoleLHoch 6m6 minutes ago
Trying to encourage my husband go to sleep like a small child so I can watch @Kateplusmy8 in peace �� is that bad?

Kate Gosselin‏@Kateplusmy8
@NicoleLHoch no I don't think so.. But I don't have a husband so I don't know what is considered 'ok' these days! Lol lol lol ����������������������������



Ah, no phones for the tups. That's rather telling, isn't it?

Christian Snyder ‏@csnyder5 1m1 minute ago
@Kateplusmy8 Do the 12 year olds have phones yet? Or when will they get them? That's gonna be a lot to keep track of...9 iphones! Lol

Kate Gosselin‏@Kateplusmy8
@csnyder5 nope! I cannot afford that phone plan ... Or the phones! Don't know how to handle that one! �� @TLC #KatePlus8


K8 being one-upped:

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 2m2 minutes ago
I shudder just watching us pack.. The bags, the pets, the kids, closing down the house... So much to do! #KatePlus8 @TLC

Jeanette Peterson‏@jeanettepete
@Kateplusmy8 @TLC I darn near have a breakdown when I pack for hubby and my nine! Ugh just the thought of a vacation! ��������


Could she sound more dispassionate? "Good to see him"??

Jacky Abrams ‏@jacky0218 2m2 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 @TLC do I see Colin in This episode?

Kate Gosselin‏@Kateplusmy8
@jacky0218 @TLC yes! They are being aired 'out of order' so it is good to see him on this trip isn't it?:)


If it's not the hair, it's the skin.

Chase ‏@Chase9719 1m1 minute ago
What happened to Kate's face. What's with all the zits? Doesn't she wash her face? Gross! #kateplusmy8

Tara Hembree ‏@TaraHembree 3m3 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 what type of foundation do you wear? Your makeup is gorgeous.

Kate Gosselin‏@Kateplusmy8
@TaraHembree thanks to the amazing @deannatweeting .. She will know... She knows ALL the makeup tricks..��

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 53s54 seconds ago
@Kateplusmy8 @TaraHembree @deannatweeting We have missed #Deanna...where has she been???


It's good to know K8 had SO MUCH FUN! in a disaster zone, yet again!

Kate Gosselin‏@Kateplusmy8 1m1 minute ago
This #PostKatrina rebuilding project was SO MUCH FUN! Wish we could have spent days there! Feels so good to help! @TLC #KatePlus8

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 58s58 seconds ago
@Kateplusmy8 Switch for kids to actually get to TEAR something up...& YOU be OKAY w/it! LOL

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 1m1 minute ago
Before you attack me, 'demolitioned' is a word... Because I just said it!:) @TLC #KatePlus8

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 49s49 seconds ago
@Kateplusmy8 Family working together like this to help others is teaching them value of concern for other people. Giving back! [Thanks for the cues there, Milo.]

And again:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 49s49 seconds ago
@Kateplusmy8 Mark that as a #Success for you Kate...that your kids enjoyed helping others in the rebuilding effort! #MoreHappinessInGiving

And again:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack  50s51 seconds ago
@Kateplusmy8 So another #FunEpisode...many #NewMemoriesMade for your kids! @TLC and all these experiences have been so educational as well!


Dear sweet Paige. Still stuck on the 2-year-olds.

Paige C ‏@Paige_Kate8fan 2m2 minutes ago
@Kateplusmy8 omg when Hannah looked at Alexis and said he just a yittle guy! "Him a yittle guy,him a baby!"

Kate is a twit said...

I watched the part where they went to dinner to test their etiquette knowledge. Did they teach them about yelling at each other during dinner, because that's all Kate did. She just kept on loudly correcting them about everything they were doing wrong. But there was no praise for when they did something right.

The best part was after she had told one or two of the kids not to talk with food in their mouth, she pops something in her a mouth and then begins talking with food in her mouth.

These kids shouldn't have to go to "etiquette class" to learn table manners. That's something that their mother should have taught them a long time ago.

Kate is a twit said...

So they took the puppies with them on the trip to the Poconos.

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 54m54 minutes ago
Next week on our #TripToPoconos ..There are two furry 10 week olds who join us for their 1st vacation! Am I nuts? You bet! #Mak #Nanuq @TLC

Sad but true said...

Comments on the K8 FB page about this episode are brutal for the most part.

XXXXX Does Kate she ever learn from watching herself on TV? Her attitude towards people is affecting the older girls, badly.

XXXXX kate needs to be sent to behavioral school, she is the one that acts out. The boys are well behaved the girls not so much.....

XXXXX All Kate's reactions insects etc, for TLC ratings? I've never seen a mother of boys and girls respond that way.

XXXXX Kate is embarrassing. All that screaming. Lol.

XXXXX I had to turn it off, I'm embarrassed for her lol

XXXXX Lol. She is very embarrassing. So over the top.

XXXXX Why would anyone support this show when Collin is missing? What kind of mother would have a public birthday party and TV show when a child was too ill to attend? If Kate and TLC is too money hunger than the public needs to protect Collin.

XXXXX Should change the name to Hate plus seven.

XXXXX Poor Collin looks miserable😔

Etc.
XXXXX Collin looked sad and defeated...

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