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Meanwhile, have a shocked and appalled cheeseburger and a rumspringa and say hello to the neighbors here at our own block party today!
Saturday, May 30, 2015
Kate and twins attend TLC Block Party today
Despite the firestorm over the Duggars, TLC hasn't cancelled their media event. The Duggars won't be there anymore, but Kate is scheduled to attend.
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Well the FOIA allows for about ten different exceptions to disclosing info. Some of them are subjective. I read them, and there about trade secrets and land use stuff--here is the only exception I can see might cut against disclosing the report:
(7) records or information compiled for law enforcement purposes, but only to the extent that the production of such law enforcement records or information (A) could reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings, (B) would deprive a person of a right to a fair trial or an impartial adjudication, (C) could reasonably be expected to constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy,"
So I can see how it could be grey because what is an "unwarranted" invasion of personal privacy? But I would think as long as a reasonable person would think that exception doesn't comply, they're good. Again, these things need to be explained. You can't just throw out there oh this was illegal he was a minor, without explaining exactly what code section you're talking about and why maybe it shouldn't have been released under that code section.
Isn't there a procedure for the Duggars to follow if they didn't want it released because of an exception? Surely there is a form to fill out. As long as the procedure was followed I don't see a problem. No one has suggested protocol wasn't followed.
"Then doofus was probably meaning to say she grew up in Hershey. Remember a recent article said she grew up in Philadelphia... "
But... but... ?! According to her tall story in last summer's "Kate + 8's Maine vacation", she grew up on a boat in Canada, with her
grandparents, lol.
Tucker's Mom said...
Canadians are so damn cool!
Is it something in your water??!
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Yes, it is. Ice. For about 8 months of the year. LOL
A couple of points I'd like to make about things I've read about this case. I have no way of knowing whether they're true or not and I don't have links but they sound credible.
In Arkansas, the age of the offender is irrelevant in sexual crimes. Being a minor does not get you a pass so that may explain why the FOIA was filed and allowed and why it was not illegal. Megyn Kelly needs to do her research. I don't plan to do it for her.
I also read that one of the victims, (read JimBob) petitioned the courts to have the records destroyed and the courts granted the motion. There was no sneaky police destroying records if this account is true.
That's why I wrote last week that it's important to know which happened first. The FOIA filing or the motion to destroy the record. If a law was broken, someone needs to be held accountable. In no way should this detract from the real story.
"I don't think I'm going to allow a link to his private FB page. His DJing one and twitter is fine. But that's clearly a personal page and I don't see that he is friending fans on it."
Jon made that page public..if it were truly private, no one but people he befriended would be allowed to see the pictures, and that is clearly not the case here.
Admin, I think Kate thinks she is too good for the PA hicks. Just like she did not associate with her neighbors in the old neighborhood. Same thing. It's not about privacy, it's about her own perception that she is special.
And what narcissist she is too. She tweeted this yesterday:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
2days #BusyMomMoment
Running out door.Throwing makeup on in 2min flat..thinking abt next 10 2do’s..almost applied lip gloss as mascara #Yep��
And here's a typical response:
Leigh Shahan
1h1 hour ago
Leigh Shahan @LEIGHSHAHAN1
@Kateplusmy8 Make-up in 2 minutes? Be thankful for natural beauty Kate. Slapping on the war paint is like another chore here. ��������
She uses Twitter to make a joke or whatever just to have someone tell her how beautiful she is. It's a never ending cycle.
Admin, good idea not posting Jon's Facebook link. Glad to find out, though, the kids enjoyed a normal day at the beach without cameras and screeching. And totally agree the kids have reached the age where they realize dad is more fun and relaxing than working for mom. Well, at least most of them. Mady is definitely Team Kate although I suspect she really thinks her mom is a doofus (as typical teens do).
"In that state, sexual abuse is explicitly defined as any forcible sexual act done to a person under the age of 18, regardless of the age of the perpetrator."
Found one reference. It's from this morning on CNN.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/31/opinions/pearlman-duggar-abuse/index.html
From the same article: Church Elders are mandated reporters.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/31/opinions/pearlman-duggar-abuse/index.html
http://www.arlegalservices.org/files/FSExpungement_0.pdf
From Arkansas Legal Services Partnership website:
"Expungement is the removal of police and court records from public inspection. Your records will not be physically destroyed, but they will be sealed and treated as confidential.
HOW CAN MY RECORDS BE EXPUNGED?
In most cases, you must have pleaded guilty or nolo contendere (no contest) to the offense to qualify.
You must have been sentenced under a statute that allows for expungement. And you must have completed all the terms and conditions of your probation. Also, you cannot have had prior felony convictions.
Sexual offenders whose victims were under the age of (18) years are not eligible to have the offense expunged. "
So if she grew up in a boat in Canada, why does does she always screech when getting a boat in past episodes? The lies just keep flowing.
Really great article. " Law in Arkansas states that mandated reporters who knowingly, recklessly, and purposely fail to make a report have committed a Class A or C felony. Additionally, they can and should be held civilly liable."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/31/opinions/pearlman-duggar-abuse/index.html
capecodmama, congratulations to you! Sweet hugs and cuddles are waiting for you!
Ex Nurse, this issue is so muddy. Does that apply to convictions only? There were no charges or convictions or pleas in this case. Heck, there wasn't even a case.
I'm so confused.
Josh Duggar molested minor female children. This I know to be fact. Oh, and he confessed, after he got caught. For the first time and the second time. Amazing how getting caught helps you to make a confession.
How nice she grew up in our 51st state, North Canada.
Because you know she hadn't been out of the country before until she went to New Australia.
Jon made that page public..if it were truly private, no one but people he befriended would be allowed to see the pictures, and that is clearly not the case here.
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I didn't say it was private. I said it was personal. That said, some people don't realize how open their FBs are. My understanding is that private settings are not the default settings, and FB changes them around so much that people have gotten very confused. They've been blasted for how they've handled it. For instance, Jon may not realize that any PRIVATE photo that you click to make your "cover" photo is added to a public album FOREVER, and that there is no way to make it private again unless you DELETE IT. Did you know that? I bet not.
The page can easily be found if you really must see one photo of his children in which you can't even make out their faces.
In any case, please don't argue with me about blog policy. It's not something that is productive to debate.
Expungements are different than FOIA.
Josh didn't ask for his record to be expunged, did he? I thought it was the victims (read, Ma and Pa Duggar) who wanted them sealed. I don't understand the relevancy of an expungment statute, since there is no conviction or arrest to "expunge." This wouldn't show up on his background that I know of ANYWAY. There wasn't even an arrest. It's just some old police report in which nothing ever came of it legally, and the only way anyone would ever find out about it is if they knew exactly what to look for. Probably why they felt so confident they could hide it forever. Even if you called the cops because some guy was scratching himself in front of your house, there's a police report, but if no arrest is ever made, all it does is sit in a file cabinet (or computer) for a couple decades no one but those involved ever knowing about it and no background searches would reveal it. Such is this.
The page can easily be found if you really must see one photo of his children in which you can't even make out their faces.
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The kids' faces are pretty dark and not easy to recognize. But, their body language shows pure joy.
It's only one photo. He doesn't update much.
According to the Kate decoder wheel, what she meant was "Hershey... or whatever".
This Duggar thing reminds me of TFW when things are being made public. Throw a bunch of irrelevant sh*t out there and see if any of it sticks. Anything to obfuscate.
to recognize. But, their body language shows pure joy.
It's only one photo. He doesn't update much.
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He actually has a lot of privacy settings on his page. You can tell because you can't comment or even "like" anything unless you're his friend. It looks like only his cover photos are public and photos from DJing that he may have put in "public" albums for the publicity.
He may very well have entire albums of pics of the kids, but they're in private albums so there's no way to see them.
I know for sure the kids photo WAS private, because you can't see it in any other album. Dead giveaway. If it were public, you would see it both as a "cover" photo and where he originally posted it. In two places. The only reason that photo popped up as viewable is because he made it a "cover" photo..... in fact I'm tempted to email him and let him know that cover photos aren't private, just in case he doesn't know. Or he may be fine with it since you can't make out their faces.
Again, many people don't realize that making a "private" photo a cover photo converts it to public, it does NOT warn you when you do so, and there is absolutely no way to make cover photos private. People have blasted FB for this, but they don't listen.
" For instance, Jon may not realize that any PRIVATE photo that you click to make your "cover" photo is added to a public album FOREVER, and that there is no way to make it private again unless you DELETE IT. Did you know that? I bet not."
I did know that, and that is why I have never used a picture of my grand children as a cover picture on my face book. Jon worked in IT for many years, and some have said he was very good at it. If I knew about the cover photos, it seems like he should have known also. Doesn't matter though, and is just another case of whose sheeple you belong to it seems like. It always amuses me how some people defend him no matter what.
In our neck of the homeschooling woods, we'd heard about the Pearls and the "discipline" they advise. But I don't know anyone who used it or advocated for it. In fact, my homeschool-mom friends and I were horrified by it.
"So if she grew up in a boat in Canada, why does does she always screech when getting a boat in past episodes?" (9)
It's because she's crazy as a loon, our national bird up here in the 51th state. And that's probably her only true connection with Canada.
I did know that, and that is why I have never used a picture of my grand children as a cover picture on my face book. Jon worked in IT for many years, and some have said he was very good at it. If I knew about the cover photos, it seems like he should have known also. Doesn't matter though, and is just another case of whose sheeple you belong to it seems like. It always amuses me how some people defend him no matter what.
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Well, many people who are very good with computers were livid with FB because that was not immediately obvious. I'm glad you realized it, that's quite impressive, but you can't deny the fact that many other people very bright and very astute with computers missed it, You need only read some forums with a bunch of up in arms people to know that. It's a fact, and not really in debate.
This is not about being a sheeple. I don't see what being a sheeple has to do with anything. Jon has very clearly asked that he be allowed to keep his children private. If Kate asked that her kids be kept private, I wouldn't allow links to any FB she had either. It's about being a respectful person and respecting a PARENT when they ask that their child's privacy be respected when they are with him. If that's a sheeple, so be it. That means that even if that same parent makes an honest mistake on a personal web site, you don't splash it all over the place.
If anyone were protecting Jon they would say don't post any links about him. That simply isn't the case. The ONLY thing that was asked, is that his PERSONAL FB not be posted. That's IT. What is the problem, when you can so easily find it on your own? Given how good you are with computers, I assume you can find it. Why do you NEED it posted here? A little concerning.
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If I knew about the cover photos, it seems like he should have known also.
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I worked in IT for many years too. Municipal software applications. That doesn't make me a FB expert.
Lots of things on this blog amuse me. I'll leave it at that.
Oups... ! After verifications, we Canadians do not have a national bird. The loon is on our dollar and is one of the contenders, but it's not official yet. (?!!) The loon is on our dollar and is one of the contenders, but it's not official yet. And since « our official bird should possess the personality that speaks to the spirit of Canada », maybe a loon isn’t the best choice, after all, lol...
Admin, I appreciate your not allowing a link to Jon's personal FB page be posted here. He is a public figure in his role as a DJ, so that page has no need for privacy. But he has clearly worked hard to return to private life, especially as regards his time with the children. It does my heart good to know that the kids have fun when they are with their dad. John is a doofus in many ways, but I have never doubted his love for all his children, and their love for him.
FB settings, put simply, work or at one time did work like this: You can set EVERYTHING on lockdown, private, the works. And nowhere, no how does it EVER say that a cover photo is not part of that. Ever. Not even when you MAKE it a cover photo does it warn you.
The ONLY way you can see that that's not the case is to log out completely and look at your page as a member of the public would. Since most people have their settings so that they are always logged in, few people do that. Or would have REASON to think to do that.
What's more, a reasonable IT person knows that you never set something to completely private then have that not be the case. Whether you are IT or not, private means private. It is perfectly reasonable that many people did not, and still don't, realize that private does not mean private in FB land. Even smart people and people good with computers.
Again, they've been blasted for it. Just blasted.
Likely if you did realize it, it's because of a fluke, because you got signed out somehow and just happened to see what your "private" page really looks like. Not because you're "good" with computers. It's like telling an IT person 2 plus 2 equals for, then having it sometimes equal 5. Why would you ever assume it equals 5?
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" Why do you NEED it posted here? A little concerning."
I never said I needed it to be posted here. I just wondered why some jump to defend Jon, when there is really no need to do so, as most of the time, he has done no wrong. He is who he is...has no more or less faults than the rest of us.
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Paula said... 184
I believe the only person indicating the release of the police report was a Arkansas state senator - a friend of Jim Bob's. One would have to believe if the release were truly illegal, the chief of police would have been fired by now. Kelly's gonna have to explain that one.
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Is this actually grey? Either is was legal, or it wasn't. I understand that the victims names were redacted, and that was to protect the minors involved.
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I'm no expert, but I think that In Touch properly submitted a FOIA request for that police report (how they knew there was such a report is another question) to the appropriate dept. After redacting the report to mark out identifying information of any minors involved, the report was duly released. I think there was nothing illegal or incorrect about the process that took place.
However, JImBob is part of the network of good ole boys in Arkansas, with ties to Huckabee and others in places of power. As soon as that story broke, I bet a flurry of phone calls went out. I think the non-family victim might still be a minor, and it seems likely that JimBob placed a call to that young lady's father, and suggested/told him to request the report be destroyed.
What I think happened is by the time the authorities were properly notified of Josh's molestation, the statute had expired for him to face criminal charges (acts supposedly occurred in 2002, Oprah's show is notified of the allegations in 2006 and then contacts the authorities to alert them of the possible abuse). However, I think that even though no criminal charges were filed, once the proper authorities learned of the molestation and Josh's admitting to it, they became involved and Josh had to participate in some mandatory counseling (perhaps the parents and the rest of the family too), and had to comply with certain sex offender protocols. His name may even have been entered in a registry of juvenile offenders. That's the record that I believe he petitioned the court to have expunged - not a criminal record per se, but to have his name removed from a sex offenders registry because he had completed all the steps required of him. (I am piecing things together based on info collected on another website, by better internet detectives than I am - so I have no links to provide, etc.)
The ONLY way you can see that that's not the case is to log out completely and look at your page as a member of the public would. Since most people have their settings so that they are always logged in, few people do that. Or would have REASON to think to do that.
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Actually, when you are still signed into FB you can check to see what others see on your FB page. There is a link under the security tab called "Who can see my stuff?". You can view what the public would see and also view what a friend can see. That is how I found out that the public could see my profile picture and cover photo, and why I don't use personal photos.
With that said, I commend you for not posting the link to Jon's page. For one thing you have to have a FB account to see it, and if someone really wants to see it, they can do a search and find it.
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BTW, if TLC can't or won't get rid of the Duggars what does that tell us about Kate the abuser of babies and puppies!
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I don't follow TLC's programming all that closely, but aren't the Duggar's TLC's lynchpin?
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Apparently so, considering how they have struggled to fill the void with episodes of other shows from the Way Back Machine. But that's what you get when you put most of your eggs in one basket TLC. Not a wise business plan.
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Tucker's Mom said... 10
BTW, if TLC can't or won't get rid of the Duggars what does that tell us about Kate the abuser of babies and puppies!
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I don't follow TLC's programming all that closely, but aren't the Duggar's TLC's lynchpin?
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Apparently so, considering how they have struggled to fill the void with episodes of other shows from the Way Back Machine. But that's what you get when you put most of your eggs in one basket TLC. Not a wise business plan.
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Thank you for your thoughts on your previous post.
Two things come to mind: Enron and "too big to fail".
But, Kate's filming the crap out of the kids once again this summer, so TLC's hide just might be saved by the blockbuster ratings that watching paint dry over and over again brings.
It was my understanding that the police report that was obtained via FOIA redacted all of the minors' names. US magazine didn't do that, I think the polic report was released that way.
If so.......there is probably no illegality here. The fact that we now know who did what was really thanks to both Josh's and his parents' public acknowledgment. (and, of course, "Alice" the poster who attended the same church and was present during Josh's public shaming and request for forgiveness)
Regarding the police report being released, the mayor of Springdale made a statement that the sheriff consulted with the District Attorney before releasing it. This is from one of the articles about it:
"Springdale Mayor Doug Sprouse said O'Kelley and Springdale City Attorney Ernest Cate determined after researching the matter that the report had to be released under law. "From every indication I have the chief and city attorney reluctantly did what they had to do to comply with the state FOI (freedom of information) law," Sprouse said Saturday (May 23)."
I would think the DA would know the legality of releasing it.
For one thing, it's a police report, not a criminal record. I can see an arrest report or a trial record of a minor not being released via FOIA, but since he was never charged, I don't think it would fall under the category of an exception to FOIA.
I think of it being similar to his being in a car accident and an accident report was made by the police. That report would be public record.
Of course, I know that the contents of this report were more grave than an accident report, but I'm just using it for comparison.
I never said I needed it to be posted here. I just wondered why some jump to defend Jon, when there is really no need to do so
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I don't follow the logic that not posting someone's personal FB is "defending them", nor do I understand why you keep provoking an argument over something so simple. You decided that was defending Jon, and it's illogical.
If Kate had a private FB she wanted private, I wouldn't post it either. Is that "defending" Kate?
If anything, Jon's FB HELPS his case, because it shows him as a loving father who did in fact have his children with him this weekend. Why would a Jon "sheeple" want that evidence kept private?
Thanks Kate is a Twit I forgot about the who can see me tab thing, which was added after the mountain of criticism.
ETA: not "US magazine, but In Touch". sorry
I feel a little guilty asking for a link where this photo of the tups having fun and being happy with Jon was. I wasn't meaning to stalk him or see something private! It does not need to be on here or even seen by me- since others saw it, I thought it was public.
I also have found you can see Other Albums on FB by clicking Profile Pictures and they come up when security is not tight. If you don't want people to see a photo, don't post it.This photo sounds pretty innocent and non-invasive.(unlike Kate's Twitter ones)
Thanks for clarification on expungement. What was interesting to me is that there is a clear differentiation for sexual crimes from other types of crimes, and can never be expunged. This came up in several states, with some variations (ex if perp was over the age of 14). since that site did say that this applies to police records as well as convictions, I thought it might apply.
Anonymous said... 65 (Pam):
Thank you for sharing your own painful childhood story. I'm so sorry that happened to you and your sister, and even worse, that your church pastor would make you stand up and talk about what you did wrong! It's just horrifying. So yes, shame on the Duggar parents - they are definitely not examples of good parenting, to say the least.
So let's see....what's the price Josh paid for molesting his little sisters and a non-family little girl.
He got to keep his behavior and its aftermath out of the show
He didn't have to publicly own up to anything re: the show
He and his extended family continued to garner fame and fortune selling their "Christian" lifestyle
As a result of his 'celebrity' from their tv show, he was handed a cushy executive director job at a very young age
He used his public "Christian" persona as a platform to denigrate entire groups of people
He got to falsely accuse people of being child molesters while promoting himself (a known child molestor) as an innocent good ole boy, oh so "Christian"
Did I mention that the family continued to earn money from their tv show? That one where they promoted and sold themselves as the most fabulous "Christians" ever.
Yeah. That was quite some price he had to pay.
All this back and forth is exactly why I do not trust Facebook. However, I know I miss out with what's going on with the relatives and friends, especially the younger ones who think the world cares about the minutiae of their lives. The bottom line is that Jon is not filming and tweeting about his kids like Kate. He uses Facebook for work and for family/friends to catch up, with permission, like a normal human being. I see no issue with him. And I am not a Jon defender. He has faults but he is not whoring out his children for a paycheck.
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Regarding the police report being released, the mayor of Springdale made a statement that the sheriff consulted with the District Attorney before releasing it. This is from one of the articles about it:
"Springdale Mayor Doug Sprouse said O'Kelley and Springdale City Attorney Ernest Cate determined after researching the matter that the report had to be released under law. "From every indication I have the chief and city attorney reluctantly did what they had to do to comply with the state FOI (freedom of information) law," Sprouse said Saturday (May 23)."
I would think the DA would know the legality of releasing it.
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I hope Ms. Kelly does some 'splainin'. She really ought to after leveling her allegations that this was released illegally.
This photo sounds pretty innocent and non-invasive.(unlike Kate's Twitter ones)
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It's exactly like that. The kids are giving their exuberance, not being posed, told to hold up their private letter or told to wear their grifted clothing.
Somewhat off topic, but this came up on my FB timeline and made me laugh. Here is a multi-tasking mom:
https://www.facebook.com/CrochetGuildOfAmerica/photos/a.10151128789628715.449731.117127423714/10152911680653715/?type=1
All she's missing is a glass of rumspringa!
P.J. said... 148
Okay, folks, hold your horses. As a Canadian I can look dispassionately at your political arguments and a lot of you are doing the Duggars a great big favour right now by making this story about politics. The words Republican or Democrat should not be used when talking about this story.
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At least the Pastafarians are keeping their noodly appendages out of it :o)
Seriously though, little girls were molested and it seems apparent that not a whole fricken lot was done to protect them from that happening again because of the religious beliefs of the clan and Michelle's and JimBob's narcissism.
They appear to aspire to fame and money at any cost just like Kate Gosselin. They make their kids sacrificial lambs in order to reach the top of the mountain which is actually just a big, steaming pile of horseshit that TLC enables them to climb. Now they're doing the 'set the record straight' tour, too. It's all so sickening.
(Leslie)
I was reading a blog about the Duggars last night and saw many of these comments. Apparently the last episode was called Digging With The Duggars and Josh made a revealing comment. Josh told Jessa that she couldn't keep a secret. And I think in an episode in 2011 Josh also said Jill was a tattletale.
Also Josh was not in Jill or Jessa's wedding although several of his brothers were. But both Jill and Jessa asked Josh to design their wedding invitation.
Mel (#42), and surely there's a profitable book in his future.
The ghostwriter has probably already started on "Redemption:
How Being Forgiven Has Made Me Even Awesomer"
Maybe Jon posted that one picture to show that the kids do see him and they are happy with him. Not a big deal IMO.
Interesting article that includes an interview with one of the church elders who went with Josh and Jim Bob when they went to see the State Police Officer Hutchens in 2003. The elder says that Josh confessed everything but the officer did not take notes or record the interview.
"Joshua Duggar, his father and the elder who went with them prayed before they entered a van to go to State Police headquarters, the witness said. There they met Hutchens.
The account Joshua Duggar gave Hutchens included all the details he had given to his parents and church elders about who he touched, every one he touched and exactly how and where on their bodies he touched them, the elder said. The account wasn't explicit in its detail or lurid, but left no room for doubt about exactly what Duggar did, the witness said.
"I was there from the beginning to the end," the witness said.
The corporal took no notes and made no recording, the witness said.
"He didn't even pull out a piece of paper. I remember thinking it was really odd. There was a desk in the room along with some chairs."
The police corporal "told Joshua that since you're from a good family and have a good support group and good friends, he wasn't going to go any further," the witness said. "He did say that if you ever do this again, you'll be taken away or something like that. He definitely didn't raise his voice. He was calm and serious. He repeated that if you ever do this again, you'll be taken away."
Also, it seems that the Arkansas Dept. of Correction is investigating how InTouch got their interview with Hutchens, saying that it may have been a case of misrepresentation.
http://www.nwaonline.com/news/2015/may/31/duggar-witness-contradicts-corporal-s-c/
(Leslie)
The Duggars had a list of all the Pearl's books on Training a Child and Being a Help Mate on their website but it was removed years ago. There is a snapshot of these books being promoted on their website as proof.
I wonder if Ben and Derick know that the Duggars highly promoted these sick, perverted books. Derick only has one brother and went to a four year college. I find it hard to believe he or his mother would approve of these books. I did hear both Jill and Derick say that they have no problem with their children going to a four year college and I believe that. After all Derick did. Derick was raised in a Christian home but he was not raised around Gothard nor was he homeschooled. He seems very well adjusted and stable. Ben is an immature idiot working for Jim Bob with similar parents as the Duggars.
And I wonder if and when did Jessa and Jill tell Ben and Derick about Josh abusing them. I would have loved to been a fly on the wall for that conversation.
Another interesting perspective about ATI from someone who was raised in that environment.
http://www.salon.com/2015/05/28/i_couldve_been_a_duggar_wife_i_grew_up_in_the_same_church_and_the_abuse_scandal_doesnt_shock_me/
So the tups are with Jon...quietly. So much for "some see him, some don't". Or "I wait for the phone to ring". Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Donkey is slowly but surely losing her grip on the spin. Love it.
Also, she looks SO unnatural in the photos from the block party...as in totally squeezed into double spanx and having an odd look to her already weird body. She thinks it makes her look thin. All I see is someone who must be uncomfortable and hot and crammed into industrial underwear. Again, might I say, hahahahaha. Stupid donkey.
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And I wonder if and when did Jessa and Jill tell Ben and Derick about Josh abusing them. I would have loved to been a fly on the wall for that conversation.
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I don't believe it for one minute but for the sake of argument let's say it did happen. I would guess that it was done more in the vein of a confession. How they tempted their brother with their immoral displays of their feminine wiles. I'm sure they are ordered to go into a marriage with a pure soul and would need to confess all before taking their vows.
We have yet to hear from a victim's perspective as to how this was handled. Until we do (not that I want the victims to be revictimized) I'll go with what their "teachings" tell us.
Whether the police report was shared legally or illegally does not matter to me one bit. This is not a court of law where such matters decide if the info is admissible or inadmissible. The point, to me, is that the truth is out there now. It's not a rumor. The bell cannot be unrung. Real people are concerned for the safety of little girls, the mental health of grown up victims and how this will play out over time. Real people are angry over events that happened and were not properly handled. Records legally obtained? Illegally obtained? In the real non-court world, I for one am just glad the cover has been lifted off this crime. Sadly it's just years too late.
Karen Kaufman said... 54
So the tups are with Jon...quietly. So much for "some see him, some don't".
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There are only four children in the picture. How does that contradict "some see them, some don't?"
NJGal51 said... 50
Maybe Jon posted that one picture to show that the kids do see him and they are happy with him. Not a big deal IMO.
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I think you're right. It could be a little passive-aggressive dig at his former wife and her minions to show them he's alive and well and loving his time with his kids -- which I fully understand since he's dealing with a parental alienating narc of an ex-wife.
NJGal51 said... 50
Maybe Jon posted that one picture to show that the kids do see him and they are happy with him. Not a big deal IMO.
My thoughts too. Maybe he just wanted to share a picture of his obviously happy children. One picture is not public exploitation, this is his personal FB page. Why does there always have to be an ulterior motive. His friends and relatives see his page. He shared A picture. And not all the kids are in it. It's a casual picture. Not a big deal.
The twins are 14; maybe THEY got to choose their weekend activity. Maybe NOT spending it with their sibs sounded great to them. A limo ride, maybe a catered lunch, all probably more fun to them than digging in the sand. Now if only their biotch of a mother could only be as gracious about their father as he is about her, in public.
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Maria...57 All 6 of the kids are there. In the left corner of the picture there is a girl and a boy running from an umbrella toward the other 4 kids. Unlike their mother these kids are allowed to break rank and go play and have fun when they are with their dad. Also there is a picture of all them lined up by the water and dressed in jeans. They all have smiles on their faces.
Maria said... 57
There are only four children in the picture. How does that contradict "some see them, some don't?"
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There are actually 4 pictures on Facebook that you can see, 3 of them of the kids. Two were on May 31, and one was on April 30 that clearly shows all 6 tups. Looking happy.
I do think it is worth noting that all 6 tups have seen their father recently, on more than one occasion, and look happy, so rumors to the contrary can be put to rest.
The kids lined up by the water is from a year ago. Up close it doesn't look like the two kids in the distance are Gosselins. Hopeful they are all together though.
Well it's a "normal" fb page. FRIENDS of his making nice comments, NOT strangers. He HAS friends. He HAS a life. He goes out, hangs out...it's not pics of his driveway, his kitchen, his stove, his baking, his bedroom, his pots, pans....you know... things you only see in your home?
People calling him "buddy", busting his chops. Yes, he is a regular Joe
Vanessa said... 63
Well it's a "normal" fb page. FRIENDS of his making nice comments, NOT strangers. He HAS friends. He HAS a life. He goes out, hangs out...it's not pics of his driveway, his kitchen, his stove, his baking, his bedroom, his pots, pans....you know... things you only see in your home?
People calling him "buddy", busting his chops. Yes, he is a regular Joe
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Photos of life happening.
It would surprise me if it didn't chap Kate's ass that Jon seems fulfilled and happy.
Maria...57 All 6 of the kids are there. In the left corner of the picture there is a girl and a boy running from an umbrella toward the other 4 kids. Unlike their mother these kids are allowed to break rank and go play and have fun when they are with their dad. Also there is a picture of all them lined up by the water and dressed in jeans. They all have smiles on their faces.
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The picture of them lined up by the beach is two years old.
Since Cara and Mady are 14, they probably enjoy time away from the younger siblings. Having said that, I hope Jon gets to see them too. Kate needed to bring some of the kids for the Block Party (probably requested by TLC) and the girls (Mady only most likely) thought it would be fun. Cara probably would have just preferred to be left alone. Kate must have promised them something, though.
Kate must have been verklempt that Jon had ALL the tups. Maybe a few more will abandon her. I hope so.
Michell's thoughts that certain types of people sexually accost children in any environment, especially bathrooms and locker rooms....maybe she's projecting.
Just because that's what *Josh* would do, doesn't mean that's what other people do.
Maria said... 65
Maria...57 All 6 of the kids are there. In the left corner of the picture there is a girl and a boy running from an umbrella toward the other 4 kids. Unlike their mother these kids are allowed to break rank and go play and have fun when they are with their dad. Also there is a picture of all them lined up by the water and dressed in jeans. They all have smiles on their faces.
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The picture of them lined up by the beach is two years old.
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I'm not understanding your point. Yes, there's an old picture that must have been a profile picture from two years ago. The current picture of the kids on the beach is from this May 31.
It strikes me that Jeff Millionaire is just as manipulative as Kate. Amazing what he was telling his kids during the divorce. Those two deserve each other if they hook up.
Confused.. did Jon have all six or not last weekend?
Looks like a sheeple wandered over that doesn't like proof that Jon spends time with his kids.
There's a Facebook page for Jon's high school graduating class that's very inactive. It was linked from his FB page. It's so inactive that this correspondence from 2009 is up near the top of the page. I guess this is how the tabloids get stories. Or maybe it's how the sheeple (think defective detective LOL ) get their info!
Investigative Journalism or Invasion of Privacy??
I just received this email and another one asking for some info on Jon... I hope anyone else who does will respect his privacy.
Cheers,
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Hi xxxxxx
I'm working on a story about Jon and Kate Gosselin and understand that you both graduated together. I'm trying to find out what he was like before he met Kate. Was he a popular guy? Outspoken? What were his goals in life? Was having a big family and getting married young something he wanted in life?
If you have any information that might be of some help, that would be fantastic. Otherwise, sorry to take up your time.
All the best,
Erica
Us Weekly Magazine
High Sodium Content said... 62
The kids lined up by the water is from a year ago. Up close it doesn't look like the two kids in the distance are Gosselins. Hopeful they are all together though.
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Actually 2 years ago. I saw the April 28 date but didn't notice they year 2013. So not recent.
Tucker's Mom said:
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Photos of life happening.
It would surprise me if it didn't chap Kate's ass that Jon seems fulfilled and happy.
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It's bad enough that he continues to live in the area, and exercises his custodial rights to spend time with their children. It must really be like salt to the wounds to see him doing a job he enjoys, having activities outside "going to Target" and "sleeping", and otherwise enjoying life even though he no longer is part of a tv show or married to her! How dare he? /snark
What does Kate do with her days? I think she does take the kids to the bus stop on at least some weekday mornings. She has tweeted about climbing back into bed once she returns from that drop off. Does she stay in bed til nearly noon? The kids are gone at least until 4:00. I know she's not out feeding the chickens, nor collecting eggs - the chickens are the boys' responsibility. I doubt she's even going into any of the kids' bedrooms to collect laundry. Maybe she does a few loads of laundry, viciously banging and whirling the knobs as she does. Maybe she fixes a dinner meal. But other than that - what does she do with herself all day long? She does not work; she does not volunteer anywhere; she does not garden; quilt; sew; read, blog, or have any apparent creative outlets. She doesn't seem to have any hobbies, not even running anymore. I think Kate's life is boring most of the time, with brief periods of filming here and there.
Back to Caitlyn Jenner for a moment. I just saw the pictures and make-up, lighting & photo shop can do wonders for anyone (right Kate!). I'm sure that up close and personal Caitlyn looks more like Jeffrey Tambor's character on Transparent than any old time movie star.
Maybe the othe kids were off doing something else like playing in the water or building a sancastle or maybe they just didn't want their picture taken. It's really not important in the scheme of things.
The picture of them lined up by the beach is two years old.
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Looks like a lake. Nockamixon maybe?
Still, all the kids 2 years ago and all this time Kate's been saying that not all kids see Jon.
Vanessa said... 63
He HAS a life. He goes out, hangs out...it's not pics of his driveway, his kitchen, his stove, his baking, his bedroom, his pots, pans....you know... things you only see in your home?
People calling him "buddy", busting his chops. Yes, he is a regular Joe
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Pots, pans, lol! You go, sister!
I haven't looked at his fb page(s), but I'll take his word for it that his kids, whether one or all six, were with him over the weekend and they enjoyed themselves. I'll take what he says as the truth because he doesn't lie like Kate.
He doesn't have to make up stories about how wonderful it is, he's just living it and making it as best he can with what he's got. Unlike Kate. She's still busy sucking the lifeblood out of her kids.
I think if the truth be told, Schmoopy is jealous of his "mediocre" life. And it kills her to see him moving on while she's still living at the beck and call of TLC.
NJGal51 said... 75
Back to Caitlyn Jenner for a moment. I just saw the pictures and make-up, lighting & photo shop can do wonders for anyone (right Kate!). I'm sure that up close and personal Caitlyn looks more like Jeffrey Tambor's character on Transparent than any old time movie star.
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Without a doubt.
Let me preface this by saying I think it's great Bruce has transitioned and hope it makes him happy.
That said, I find it ironic that what Bruce aspired to be as a woman, as Caitlyn, is a male's fantasy of what it is to be woman.
I mean, he looks like a trucker's mud flap
I haven't looked at his fb page(s), but I'll take his word for it that his kids, whether one or all six, were with him over the weekend and they enjoyed themselves. I'll take what he says as the truth because he doesn't lie like Kate.
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Imagine for a minute, if Jon bitched about how hard it was every time he had the kids, like Kate does.
The cooking! Meal! Driving them hither, tither and yon! The laundry! Doctor visits!
I'm so exhaustedish! I can't go anywhere or do anything!
Can you just hear the sheeple heads exploding?
I think if the truth be told, Schmoopy is jealous of his "mediocre" life. And it kills her to see him moving on while she's still living at the beck and call of TLC.
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I believe it boggles Kate's mind that he's over her. How could anyone move on and be happy once you've had the best?
I think if the truth be told, Schmoopy is jealous of his "mediocre" life. And it kills her to see him moving on while she's still living at the beck and call of TLC.
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I believe it boggles Kate's mind that he's over her. How could anyone move on and be happy once you've had the best?
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Oh that's exactly what this is about.
I think she's also convinced herself the one and true way is a celebrity lifestyle, being a television star, and piling up the money.
It pisses her off that someone who is not providing that for her kids could still provide them a happy life. That photo, the uncropped version of which shows all six kids, is like an F-U to all her ideals. Her way is not the only way to a nice lifestyle, and that drives her nuts, especially when Jon of all people has figured it out.
If Jon had the kids, posted a pic on facebook, ok. I didn't go looking for it and don't care to see the pic.
Concerning the twins going with Kate to the black party...M is an interesting study. She seemed to HATE being filmed during the Maine trip, yet was grinning ear to ear in one of the block party pics.
WEIRD.
Perhaps she wants the swag that goes along with the $, but doesn't want to put in the work(sorta like someone else we know.
And glad to see that Kate was all smiles there as well...but I am sure in the wee hours of the night, she's thinking about her lawsuit regarding custody of H.
I don't know how 'happy' I'd be at party knowing my custody was being challenged.
But that's just me. LOL
I think she's also convinced herself the one and true way is a celebrity lifestyle, being a television star, and piling up the money.
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What scares me is that this is how she's "training up" her kids.
Always mentioning about how savvy they're becoming about being celebrities is alarming.
I believe Kate wants as many of her kids to get into the reality tv biz as possible, and she'll manage them, a la Kris Jenner.
I really didn't want to believe that, until recently.
Her kids have a much longer shelf life than she, and she knows it.
It pisses her off that someone who is not providing that for her kids could still provide them a happy life. That photo, the uncropped version of which shows all six kids, is like an F-U to all her ideals. Her way is not the only way to a nice lifestyle, and that drives her nuts, especially when Jon of all people has figured it out.
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I'm glad Jon doesn't make very many photos available for anyone to see, but when I do, I feel better.
Better about knowing that the kids have a parent that just loves them in an organic way that doesn't involve what they can provide him.
I feel better knowing that they have normalcy and calmness and are learning how to be everyday people when they're with him.
When I see the kids so happy, relaxed and natural, I have hope that they can survive their childhood with their mother, and be OK.
I think if the truth be told, Schmoopy is jealous of his "mediocre" life. And it kills her to see him moving on while she's still living at the beck and call of TLC.
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I think Kate wants all those kids to herself, for her own selfish reasons. She does not want Jon to have them, not even an even 50% of the time.
Yet, she feels entitled to seethe with anger that she does most of the work.
It's what you signed up for babe!
Millicent (#74), I suspect TFW spends lots and lots and lots of
time online. Radar, TMZ, People...and here! Hmmm...wait...
she's pretty lazy. Maybe she's got Deanna and Pumpkinbottom
doing her research, and pays them in donated gift cards for
for their time.
When I think about TFW fuming to see Jon happy, and "her" kids
happy with him, it reminds me of the Grinch on Christmas morning
looking incredulously at all the Whos down in Whoville contendedly singing "without any presents at all." I bet she's gobsmacked!
"That man's couch's not leather
That man has no pool
You can't like that man more
That man is a tool!"
Love your comments Tucker's Mom. The locals have told us that Jon is active in their lives; no we see visual proof they do have a normal life with their dad.
Carolina church cancels Duggar appearance
I'm glad Jon doesn't make very many photos available for anyone to see, but when I do, I feel better.
Sorry, that should read, "but when he does, I feel better.
Jeebus, this cold is kicking my ass ;-/
I guess going home to Jon's house is like getting a furlough from Army duty. Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy while it's there.
We're still Team Kids around here.
Yet, she feels entitled to seethe with anger that she does most of the work.
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Well, making it appear like she's doing most of the work, anyway. ha.
But oh yeah, she's mad as hell. It wasn't supposed to go this well for Jon. He's supposed to be homeless and without a job, begging her to let him come back. Oops. Suck it, Kate.
Imagine for a minute, if Jon bitched about how hard it was every time he had the kids, like Kate does.
The cooking! Meal! Driving them hither, tither and yon! The laundry! Doctor visits!
I'm so exhaustedish! I can't go anywhere or do anything!
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Wait a minute! Do you mean he provides for them, he feeds them, takes them places that require admission and fees and whatnot? I thought he starved them for the entire time they are with him and therefore they can't wait to get home to Kate and her amazing meals. At least, according to the sheeple that's what happens...he pays nothing toward their support.
"And I wonder if and when did Jessa and Jill tell Ben and Derick about Josh abusing them. I would have loved to been a fly on the wall for that conversation. "
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Why? It seems to me that this would have been something very personal, most definitely a conversation that would have been discreet and perhaps embarrassing and painful for those girls. I'd have no desire whatsoever to hear any of that. Some things like that are meant only for the recipients' ears and it really isn't anyone's business except for those involved..
When I think about TFW fuming to see Jon happy, and "her" kids
happy with him, it reminds me of the Grinch on Christmas morning
looking incredulously at all the Whos down in Whoville contendedly singing "without any presents at all." I bet she's gobsmacked!
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OMG! that is a fantastic analogy!
Unfortunately that bitch will never have the epiphany the Grinch had. If you xray her heart, it's still puny and shriveled.
Jane said... 68
Maria said... 65
Maria...57 All 6 of the kids are there. In the left corner of the picture there is a girl and a boy running from an umbrella toward the other 4 kids. Unlike their mother these kids are allowed to break rank and go play and have fun when they are with their dad. Also there is a picture of all them lined up by the water and dressed in jeans. They all have smiles on their faces.
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The picture of them lined up by the beach is two years old.
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I'm not understanding your point. Yes, there's an old picture that must have been a profile picture from two years ago. The current picture of the kids on the beach is from this May 31.
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The point is that the picture does not show that he had all six children with him, as people are claiming.
The point is that the picture does not show that he had all six children with him, as people are claiming.
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Yes it does. Look closely. Collin and his sister are running toward the group in the background.
Unfortunately we've seen so much of the kids that it's possible to recognize them from a distance. Same height, weight and body type as their siblings. It's them.
Paula said... 71
Looks like a sheeple wandered over that doesn't like proof that Jon spends time with his kids.
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Wrong. I hope he spends time with all his children. It's good for them to have both parents in their lives. These recent photos, however, do not show all six children were with him.
Whenever Kate is with her kids she's like a sheep herder, as if they have to move shoulder to shoulder in her presence. I think she feels if they travel in a tight unit she still has control over them. She needs them all sticking together so there is no independent thinkers sprouting up. I think Hannah has to break away the unit by standing up for herself as an individual, stepping outside the claustrophobic parameters set by her "cruel" mother.
Kate is losing control and the fear of that has to be all consuming for her. Her plans for summer? Keep them all at home by the pool and hope no one makes a run for the gate!
Yes it does. Look closely. Collin and his sister are running toward the group in the background.
Unfortunately we've seen so much of the kids that it's possible to recognize them from a distance. Same height, weight and body type as their siblings. It's them.
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My eyes aren't what they used to be, but one of them is definitely Colin.
angie said...
And glad to see that Kate was all smiles there as well...but I am sure in the wee hours of the night, she's thinking about her lawsuit regarding custody of H.
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Interesting point, angie. Is this the first time Jon has gone somewhere with the kids while he has custody? Have her "rules" suddenly relaxed? Has the thought of going to court convinced her that she'd better dial back the bullshit? Things that make you go hmmmmm?
Maria said... 95
The point is that the picture does not show that he had all six children with him, as people are claiming.
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Doesn't prove that all six weren't with him, either. He doesn't keep them like a 6pak carton of beer to take photos to prove they're all with him or not. Actually he doesn't NEED to prove anything to anybody -- fan or non-fans alike.
Doesn't prove that all six weren't with him, either. He doesn't keep them like a 6pak carton of beer to take photos to prove they're all with him or not.
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!!! hahha!!
Says you. I think it's impossible to tell. It's the beach. I'm sure there were hundreds of children there.
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You just said they were not in the photo. Now you admit well it's impossible to tell. So which is it? Are they not in the photo, or are you really just not sure? There may not necessarily be hundreds at the beach. Doesn't look that crowded to me. You must not live near a beach. I know several beaches that are quiet, where on any given day even during hot weather, you'll only find a few other families, or none at all, there. Check out the beach at 24800 Malibu Road if you're ever out here. Never anybody there, easy parking, short stairs down to it, beautiful.
Why are you arguing about this? Jon said he had all six, the two kids you think are missing from the photo (who are right there in the background running toward their siblings, doofus) weren't with Kate. WHAT?
Maria said... 97
Paula said... 71
Looks like a sheeple wandered over that doesn't like proof that Jon spends time with his kids.
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Wrong. I hope he spends time with all his children. It's good for them to have both parents in their lives. These recent photos, however, do not show all six children were with him.
June 2, 2015 at 3:50 PM
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Admin, could you shoot Jon a message and ask him to take a "proof of life" photo with the kids? Maybe holding the current Reading Eagle?
(just kiddin')
Tucker's Mom, thanks for the link to the cancelled appearance in So. Carolina.
Wow, I had no memory of there being 4 - count 'em, FOUR - other sex scandals with TLC talent. I had no idea about the gun guy and completely forgot about Gonzalez from Cake Boss family. This makes 5. Sheesh.
Jumping In (#98), good points about control. And that's another
reason I don't think TFW will be letting M & C get part-time jobs
any time soon. If they complain about not having their own
spending money, I suspect TFW would rather dip into her own
savings (which those girls helped her earn) than to let them
leave the compound for hours at a time.
Admin, did someone actually say "says you" in their post?
Can "you're a stupid boogerhead" be far behind?
fidosmommy said... 105
Tucker's Mom, thanks for the link to the cancelled appearance in So. Carolina.
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"Two cancellations and counting"
And so it begins. What's that story about the wall of Jericho coming down in the Book of er... Joshua?
FlimsyFlamsy said... 107
Admin, did someone actually say "says you" in their post?
Can "you're a stupid boogerhead" be far behind?
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LOLOL!!
...or 'I know you are, but what am I?' 'I'm rubber, you're glue....'
FlimsyFlamsy said... 107
Admin, did someone actually say "says you" in their post?
Can "you're a stupid boogerhead" be far behind?
I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. Between that and the "doofus" crack, you all have brightened my day.
Phreddie
AuntieAnn said... 109
FlimsyFlamsy said... 107
Admin, did someone actually say "says you" in their post?
Can "you're a stupid boogerhead" be far behind?
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LOLOL!!
...or 'I know you are, but what am I?' 'I'm rubber, you're glue....'
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Oh this is getting good:)
Nanny nanny boo boo, stick your head in poo poo
Auntie? Is your avatar new? lololol
I'm pinching my nose and holding my breath. Says you???
Oh yeah well says ME!
LOLOL!!
...or 'I know you are, but what am I?' 'I'm rubber, you're glue....'
June 2, 2015 at 4:26 PM
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Boing fwip!
AuntieAnn said...
And so it begins. What's that story about the wall of Jericho coming down in the Book of er... Joshua?
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Is it really? I'm too lazy to look it up.
You're not the boss of me! I'm telling.
Oh. My. Grab! You have all instantaneously slipped back into your childhoods! This is hysterical!
Phreddie
I know you are, but what am I??
Not sure if this was posted about background checks in reality tv, in the Washington Post
"As for Discovery Communications specifically, former TLC executive Brant Pinvidic reiterates there’s no way that, for example, the network knew anything about the Josh Duggar allegations.
“I would bet anything that there is no possibility Discovery had any knowledge of this whatsoever. If there was even remotely talk of this, the show would have never gone on the air,” Pinvidic said. “It’s a big show, but it makes a tiny percentage of overall Discovery and TLC’s [revenue]. They wouldn’t risk this kind of publicity.”
So, the question is, did the Duggars lie to TLC??
Anonymous said... 116
Oh. My. Grab! You have all instantaneously slipped back into your childhoods! This is hysterical!
Phreddie
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Watchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?
Tucker's Mom said... 119
Anonymous said... 116
Oh. My. Grab! You have all instantaneously slipped back into your childhoods! This is hysterical!
Phreddie
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Watchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?
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Oh yeah? My daddy's is bigger than your daddy's.
Vanessa @ 111, relatively speaking. It's been in my files for a long time, just never thought to use it as an avatar until recently. I had to add some blonde streaks between the...um... ears.
AuntieAnn
I do believe it is "My daddy is bigger than your daddy" and not as you wrote it: "Oh yeah? My daddy's is bigger than your daddy's."
Heaven help me to stop laughing so hard!
Phreddie
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 · 6m6 minutes ago
Hey guys.. Check this out from @deannatweeting
http://lillianavazquez.com/english-rose-beauty/ … #HappyGlowing🌞
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Oh, good grief.
Heaven help me to stop laughing so hard!
Phreddie
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Phreddie, I meant my daddy's car is bigger than your daddy's car.
What did you think I was comparing? lol!!!
OMG! My stomach hurts from laughing so hard. You win AuntieAnn!
Phreddie
I can't believe Deanna is even still associating with Kate. She has, like, a real career. Move on.
“I would bet anything that there is no possibility Discovery had any knowledge of this whatsoever. If there was even remotely talk of this, the show would have never gone on the air,” Pinvidic said. “It’s a big show, but it makes a tiny percentage of overall Discovery and TLC’s [revenue]. They wouldn’t risk this kind of publicity.”
So, the question is, did the Duggars lie to TLC??
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Come ON.
The allegations were all over the internet. No one, no one at all ever stumbled upon them and asked, say, what's this all about?
I read some of Megyn Kelly's comments in context in preparing the post. I don't understand, is she not a GOPer herself? She appears to be trying to say that going after Clinton about his sexual history which included allegations of rape is somehow hypocritical.
First of all, he was president of the United States for heaven sake. Second of all, what is she even talking about? Like one, maybe two tops politicians even said anything about the Josh thing. Why would you assume to know what anyone feels about it from EITHER party?
Plus, Josh isn't a politician. Sure he might be someday, and sure, he worked for a PAC, but that's really not the same thing at all. I would think it's bigger news when a president has an issue rather than some two bit TLC freak show star. Total apples and oranges comparison if I ever saw one.
Jon looks pretty darn good for a dead guy
Uh oh, I guess you're a doofus too. Yes, the fact that the one on the right appears to be blonde throws a bit of a wrench in the whole "OBVIOUSLY the 'missing' sextuplets are also in the picture" scenario, but why let that get in the way of a good story?
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If there is more than one doofus on the blog then it's DOOFI. Get it straight.
Now my breath is held AND I'm stomping my feet too. Says ME!
This is a c/p from the article Tucker's Mom gave us about the So. Carolina church cancelling the Duggars. It is a timeline of events. The final paragraph states my own questions well.
"It was only when the family was set to make an appearance on The Oprah Winfrey Show in 2006 that someone reached out to producers and informed them of these prior incidents, leading those producers to contact authorities and notify them of what they had been told by this individual through email.
According to TMZ, the Harpo staff received the email at 7:30am and contacted authorities right away on December 7. Police then called Michelle and Jim Bob at 1:17pm telling them they needed to bring their son in for questioning. Winfrey meanwhile cancelled the planned interview immediately and sent the family home.
This sequence of events has many wondering how TLC and Discovery Health could have been unaware of the molestation claims. Oprah had the biggest talk show in the country at the time, and no doubt it took a lot of work to book the family on her show. The network would have been thrilled at the publicity such an appearance would generate for their show. No doubt network executives would have demanded an explanation as to why the interview was cancelled at the last minute."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3107401/South-Carolina-church-cancels-upcoming-appearance-Duggar-family-wake-molestation-scandal.html#ixzz3bxelZlmt
I am going to take my ball and go home!
Rainbirdie said... 130
Jon looks pretty darn good for a dead guy
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Pennsylvania has several skilled embalmers.
What! Kate is not having a 8th grade graduation party for the Twins? Or does their school not have a graduation from 8th grade.
I did when I graduated from 8th grade. We had cap & gowns, and assembly and walked across the stage to get our diplomas, and then our families had a party. Then in fall we went to High school.
Kate tweeted:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Not to cheer too soon, but verrrry soon, this sch yr will b a thing of the past!NO more packing lunches,NO more 5am Lotsa swimming/sun🌞 GN!
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One day, Kate, years from now if you're all alone, after the kids are grown and gone and you have nobody, you might give anything for just one more day of lunches to pack and 5 a.m. wake-ups. Read Erma's "Wet Oatmeal Kisses."
Then again it's Kate, so maybe not.
ex Nurse said... 133
I am going to take my ball and go home!
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lol!
They started it!!! Honest, Mom. They did.
Auntie Ann and P.J. -- yes, the battle of Jericho is in the book of Joshua. Remember the old Sunday School song -- "Joshua fit the battle of Jericho, Jericho, Jericho. Joshua fit the battle of Jericho, and the walls came tumbling down" . Ironic, isn't it.
Y'all are doodooheads and I got cooties talking to you. And my dog's better than your dog! Oh, wait, that one's a commercial, LOL.
I am thrilled that groups are canceling Duggar appearances. If a church cancels their appearance, are the Duggars still being persecuted for being Christian?
I know it's none of our business. But I question seriously whether Jill and Jessa would have told their husbands about the abuse. If you are taught that women are responsible for enticing men, that you had to immediately forgive your abuser, would you even feel comfortable telling another man about it? What if he believed it was your fault? That seems to be kind of the party line. I know I would probably feel the need to keep it a secret. My fear would be that my fiance would consider me unpure and refuse to marry me. (I don't believe this in my own life but this is all they've been taught.)
Can I say again how grateful I am to Oprah and her staff for bringing this to a screeching halt and calling the authorities the second they found out?
Of course they don't deserve a medal for doing the right thing, but still, in an era where so many people have turned a blind eye to sexual abuse, pretended they didn't know about it, or passed it off on someone else to deal with and washed their hands of it--instead they rose above all that and put five very vulnerable little girls first. All I can say is thank you for doing what's right. The same cannot be said for TLC.
And right, it's inconceivable that TLC would not have noticed that Oprah cancelled their appearance, and it's inconceivable they would not have asked WHY.
(Leslie)
The twins are going to be Freshman in the fall, what grade are the tups going in? Thanks
I am going to take my ball and go home!
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You're not the boss of me!
Auntie Ann and P.J. -- yes, the battle of Jericho is in the book of Joshua. Remember the old Sunday School song -- "Joshua fit the battle of Jericho, Jericho, Jericho. Joshua fit the battle of Jericho, and the walls came tumbling down" . Ironic, isn't it.
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I taught Sunday School for many years (small evangelical country church) and we always sang, "Joshua fought the battle of Jericho." We were singing it wrong all those years?
Now you have me humming, "This Little Light Of Mine" and "Only A Boy Named David."
"And right, it's inconceivable that TLC would not have noticed that Oprah cancelled their appearance, and it's inconceivable they would not have asked WHY."
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It's also inconceivable that the person who blew the whistle on them to Oprah didn't do the same with TLC
They started it!!! Honest, Mom. They did.
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I thought the boogernuts started it, with a little help from the Rumspringa.
What! Kate is not having a 8th grade graduation party for the Twins? Or does their school not have a graduation from 8th grade.
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Yes. It's called "Closing" and it's on Thursday. Ninth grade isn't called the "freshman class" but rather first year of Upper School.
Congratulations to capecodmomma! Grandchildren are the best!
sneaking out from under the veranda to post this I found on my FB.. https://www.facebook.com/soonerrights4ok/photos/a.525501714150277.133858.287763791257405/968418579858586/?type=1&theater
going back under now, waiting for sunshine and heat to crawl back out
franky
Uh oh, I guess you're a doofus too.
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I know you are but what am I!
Thanks ladies, now I can't get the old Sunday School song Father Abraham out of my head.
Leslie: The Tups are going into 5th grade come Sept. If Kate had not held them back a year, they would be going into 6th grade. if they had started kindergarden at 5 in sept. then the 2014-2015 school year they should have been in 5th grade. But Kate held all of them back cause 2, were not ready for kindergarden. So all 6 repeated kindergarden . Cause, Kate was hopeing to film them, and Kate is the mind set of , the tups are a 6 pk. set, team, and you can't have 2 in kindergarden and 4 in 1st grade. I would have let the 4, advance to the next grade, and then I would hire someone to get the other 2 up to speed. Kate was too worried about herself. So, just before they graduate from HS they will turn 19.
PA Dutch Mom 143 -- I don't think you were singing it wrong. It's probably just a variation in the words. Happens sometimes. But thanks for the ear worms, LOL. I'm going to be humming/singing "This Little Light of Mine" and "Only a Boy Named David" all day. I'll return the favor -- "Zachias Was a Wee Little Man". ;>)
I know it's none of our business. But I question seriously whether Jill and Jessa would have told their husbands about the abuse. If you are taught that women are responsible for enticing men, that you had to immediately forgive your abuser, would you even feel comfortable telling another man about it? What if he believed it was your fault? That seems to be kind of the party line. I know I would probably feel the need to keep it a secret. My fear would be that my fiance would consider me unpure and refuse to marry me. (I don't believe this in my own life but this is all they've been ta
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Hopefully some of those girls (and boys) will grow up and start to question what they were taught. Ruby Jessop comes to mind
PA Dutch Mom said... 143
Auntie Ann and P.J. -- yes, the battle of Jericho is in the book of Joshua. Remember the old Sunday School song -- "Joshua fit the battle of Jericho, Jericho, Jericho. Joshua fit the battle of Jericho, and the walls came tumbling down" . Ironic, isn't it.
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Us Catholic kids didn't need to go to Sunday school. Going to church 7 days a week was considered adequate. ;)
And right, it's inconceivable that TLC would not have noticed that Oprah cancelled their appearance, and it's inconceivable they would not have asked WHY.
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It's interesting that there have been no reports of anyone trying to contact Oprah's camp for a comment or further explanation of events.
Warmth Of The Sun said... 136
Kate tweeted:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Not to cheer too soon, but verrrry soon, this sch yr will b a thing of the past!NO more packing lunches,NO more 5am Lotsa swimming/sun�� GN!
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One day, Kate, years from now if you're all alone, after the kids are grown and gone and you have nobody, you might give anything for just one more day of lunches to pack and 5 a.m. wake-ups. Read Erma's "Wet Oatmeal Kisses."
Then again it's Kate, so maybe not.
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Same Thing, Different Summer.
Watching my local Fox morning news and they were promo'ing the Duggar interview and actually said the words "including his own sisters" when they mentioned Josh molesting girls.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-duggar-tv-scandals-20150604-story.html
interesting story from LA Times. Even if the Ma and Pa Bugger interview goes ok, the advertisers may not return. Advertisers have plenty of other choices. Also one person interviewed thinks TLC should have already made an announcement about canceling the show. The longer TLC puts off canceling the show, the more guilty by association they look.
I was reading that Megan Kelly has Josh's ex-boss, Tony Perkins, on her show very frequently.
So much for an unbiased interview. Disgusting.
The longer TLC puts off canceling the show, the more guilty by association they look.
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Oh, they do look awful. TLC looks like they are just trying to figure out if they can keep the cash cow alive.
When is her Mexico Birthday drama to air? When you go to TLC, you get this: Kate Plus 8 is not currently on the schedule. Nothing has been updated, no promo for birthday show yet.
Hopefully some of those girls (and boys) will grow up and start to question what they were taught. Ruby Jessop comes to mind
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Interesting thought concerning the Duggar kids. I am sure, if the scandal hadn't come to light, the Duggar machine would have continued down the tracks--Josh sought office, the other boys some sort of public works, the girls would have gone the Michelle route.
BUT, it was discovered that JimBob built his house upon sand instead of rock,and here it is, finally tumbling down. Took a generation (one of those biblical 'things', a 'generation'), but the scales have been removed from people's eyes and they see JimBob for what he is.
JB wasn't raised in a quiverful family, so this is a one generational thing.
Hopefully the money will dry up. If that happens, the kids will start thinking for themselves and see that they can't afford these ridiculous super-size families on a blue collar wage. I bet one of the new husbands isn't too happy about his anticipatedlife-long paycheck blowing up in his face, and here he is, with a baby on the way and no viable way to support it. I think the other hubby has a college degree, so perhaps he can support his own family. It would be nice if JB put most of the money earned from TLC into accounts for ALL the kids, after all, they earned it. Even the grandkids-they've been working since inutero.
He won't do it, and shows what he really holds precious. MONEY. All mine as far as the eye can see.
I bet one of the new husbands isn't too happy about his anticipatedlife-long paycheck blowing up in his face, and here he is, with a baby on the way and no viable way to support it.
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He's the bigot with the bigot, foul-mouthed father, right?
Good luck supporting a house full of kids when you're no longer on the cover of People magazine every time you pass gas.
"Mama June" Shannon recently told ET that not only did TLC know about her family's history -- including the fact that Shannon's ex-boyfriend, Mark McDaniel, had molested her oldest daughter, Anna "Chickadee" Cardwell-- but that at her request the network helped seal relevant court records after the show had premiered, in order to protect her daughter's privacy.
"I was honest with [TLC]," Shannon told ET. "I told them about everything from the get go. They knew the story. They sealed Anna's records because she was under 18." Cardwell also told ET in October that TLC had helped to get the court records sealed.
Shannon also claimed that TLC knew about the accusations against Duggar for years. "[TLC] knew about [Josh Duggar] since 2006 and didn't do anything. They kept filming the show, but as soon as rumors started they canceled Honey Boo Boo quick."
Shannon added, "I think TLC kept it quiet. That happened with Anna and me. TLC covered it up."
Jon Gosselin, the reality TV star and father from Jon & Kate Plus 8, spoke to ETonline last year about the pressures he faced, especially as a reality show parent.
"I think parents let the production companies and the network supersede what they think is best for their children," Gosselin said then. "The networks say, 'It would be more interesting if your kids did this.' Or, 'Your ratings will go if you get them to do that.' They will pressure you to ignore the welfare of your own children."
http://www.etonline.com/news/165199_19_kids_producer_2009/
JB wasn't raised in a quiverful family, so this is a one generational thing.
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That's a very interesting point to bring up. I hope some of his kids realize they can break the mold that JB put on them.
JB strikes me as a bit of a megalomaniac.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Not to cheer too soon, but verrrry soon, this sch yr will b a thing of the past!NO more packing lunches,NO more 5am Lotsa swimming/sun�� GN!
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So, the mother of the year shoots herself in the foot again. Either she's making the summer vacation tweet all about her, or the kids get up and 5 a.m. and pack their own lunches. Since we all know the kids aren't allowed in the kitchen until 6:03, the tweet was all about making her life easier. I'd say I've never seen anything like it, but I have. With my own Narc Mother.
I wonder if Paul Peterson or his organization will weigh in on continuing to film all these minor children in the midst of this awful scandal.
The concerns go far beyond the affects of filming and loss of privacy.
"So I began to wonder. Did TLC in the 10 seasons it has had the Duggar's on air see abuse, bruises and ignore them for the sake of the profit this show was generating? It seems they ignored the reports of Josh Duggar's sexual assaults on his sisters - reports that Oprah did not ignore, prior to TLC giving them a show. Do no disclosure contracts with the crew keep them for talking about what they've seen?
It seems highly within the realm of possibilty and one that TLC/Discovery must also now answer."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/29/1388832/-Did-TLC-witness-the-Duggar-children-being-physically-abused-with-a-rod#
TLC stinks said... 159
When is her Mexico Birthday drama to air? When you go to TLC, you get this: Kate Plus 8 is not currently on the schedule. Nothing has been updated, no promo for birthday show yet.
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I saw the promo twice within 10 minutes last night. In my defense, I had just gotten back to my daughter's house with the two granddaughters after an exciting evening at the library where they were kicking off their summer reading program. Petting zoo, fire truck, balloon twister, popcorn, lemonade, popsicles, book walk, robot demonstrations. Grandma is so tired this morning, but the girls had fun and kids still need some structured activities during the summer. Yeah, I'm talking to you Kate.
Anyway, she's watching the Little Couple? Christmas episode and the promo was shown. Same came on. SSDD. It started with TFMJG sitting on the couch talking about she can't believe she's 40, saying something to the effect of I hope you'll tell me I don't look 40, that they're celebrating her birthday in Mexico, a shot of the kids in somberos at her Mexican themed birthday party at the house, the obligatory shot of Kate in her bikini, TFMJG driving an ATV? jeep with some of the kids in it with a voiceover stating " I can't believe I thought this was a good idea", yelling at Collin who was standing in the surf, and a few shots of the birthday girl going out drinking for her birthday.
The problems of the 1%. Anyone know which companies advertise on the child abuser's show?
Gotta love Mama June's chiming in...I don't think TLC will be able to stifle her....
Uh oh, I guess you're a doofus too.
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Take one to know one.
TLC stinks said... 160
When is her Mexico Birthday drama to air? When you go to TLC, you get this: Kate Plus 8 is not currently on the schedule. Nothing has been updated, no promo for birthday show yet.
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According to one of the backdrops at the block party that episode will are on June 23 at 10pm. You can see the backdrop in this picture:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGSITq-UIAAXIqM.jpg
The Kate plus 8 FB page hasn't mentioned the date either. The day after the MD special aired, they did post the promo which was during that episode, but the promo only said "coming in June" with no date.
You can see the promo here:
https://www.facebook.com/KatePlusEight/videos/10152887560690678/?video_source=pages_finch_main_video
I don't know why TLC or Kate haven't announced the date yet, since everyone at the block party would have seen it.
capecodmama---Congrats to you and your family on your new grandson!! Grandchildren are wonderful gifts, aren't they? Enjoy!!
@Kateplusmy8 Make-up in 2 minutes? Be thankful for natural beauty Kate. Slapping on the war paint is like another chore here.
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Natural????
I don't think you can call it natural after having face-lifts and fillers and plastic in your body.
Kate said unless they're filming-(IE if TLC isn't picking up the tab) they're just going to be sleeping in till they can't anymore or will be on the compound.
SOOOO unless someone else is paying for them to play..the 8 will stay home
Shannon also claimed that TLC knew about the accusations against Duggar for years. "[TLC] knew about [Josh Duggar] since 2006 and didn't do anything. They kept filming the show, but as soon as rumors started they canceled Honey Boo Boo quick.
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I hate to tell Mama June this, but TLC really cancelled the show because Alana was growing up and lost the cute factor. It's the same thing with the G kids. They're not cute toddlers any more but TFW and TLC will continue to film the same things over and over again as long as they can make a buck. Now that it's coming out that TLC did apparently cover thing up with the Duggers let's hope that someone looks into exactly what was covered up with TFW and her abusive ways. Hopefully the custody hearing will have people asking more questions.
Has Redbird posted lately?
Maria.
There are 3 photos on Jon's FB one is from 2013 that shows all of the kids.
The second shows 4 of the kids.
To me this show that he does see all of his kids unlike Kate claims he doesn't see them.
And there are twitter photos and sighting of Jon with all of his kids. Theirs and current episodes of k8 where the kids come back from seeing Jon.
Jon even showed up at Kate's garage sale to play with his kids sooo what's the deal?
Kate is sending the message to the kids that school is bad, summer lazing good. Really, why doesn't she say positive things rather than bask in her soon-to-be sleeping in and doing nothing but live in the POOL days of summer? It's really a change of pace, season by season but still a time to accomplish and learn new things- not always on TLC's dime. Fine to use the pool, sleep in later than 5 am but still be up and at 'em, ready for summer fun.And chores don't go away in the summer, do they, kids?
The Duggars are toast. If not on TLC, they are toast on the church circuit.
(shades of Kate)....
what's next, 'Michelle's journal'?
There's no redemption tour for this family, not even Michelle. She can't weep and baby voice her way out of this one....she is just as culpable as JB. Sure she was under his 'authority', but she set aside her responsibilities as a mother and protector of her children. A poster here said she saw an old clip of one of the younger ones being lost or hurt, and when it came to a head, this child ran right past Michelle to his or her 'buddy'. That's fu**ed up, any way you look at it.
I bet the past few weeks since 'the leak', JB has been praying with church members about Satan attacking his family. And the key thing is, none of this is JB's fault. He thinks Josh was dealt with correctly under his spiritual authority, was healed of his weaknesses and forgiven his sins. And now the unbelievers are attacking him, and therefore attacking their faith.
I've known a few men like JB before. They are never wrong. They are chosen by God (sorta like being a spiritual special snowflake).
Tonight's interview ought to be interesting. I bet Michelle goes through a lot of kleenex. And ol JB might shed a tear or two.
Ok, it may be too early to see what future scheduling is, because TiVo has no upcoming shows for her.
Sounds like Figure 8 is out of ideas, same old stuff for Kate; plop her and the kids somewhere different, couch interview, etc.
Tucker's Mom said... 165
I wonder if Paul Peterson or his organization will weigh in on continuing to film all these minor children in the midst of this awful scandal.
The concerns go far beyond the affects of filming and loss of privacy
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Paul did a post on the AMC FB page mentioning the Duggars, but he used it mostly to post about loss of privacy and how there are no national regulations for the filming of the children. He didn't really address the scandal or what Josh did, but called Josh another underage victim of reality TV due the exposure the Duggar children got from being on the show. This was his opening paragraph:
"Child Labor 101
Josh Duggar is just the latest in a string of unfortunate underage victims running back past Honey Boo Boo and down to the family that got swept up in this reality television nonsense in the 70’s; The American Family broadcast on PBS (the Loud Family). It’s all based on the flawed notion that somehow kids are different than adults in the television workplace…and crucially…somehow immune from the harmful effects of unwelcome fame in the decades that follow national exposure."
Seems like he didn't want to give his opinion of the scandal itself, but just wanted to use it as a platform to promote how there needs to be Federal laws and stronger protections regarding children in the industry.
You can read the rest of the post here:
https://www.facebook.com/minorcon?fref=ts
I saw the Facebook video. First, you can clearly see that ring she always wears and was that Deanna with her clubbing?
Anyway, she's watching the Little Couple? Christmas episode and the promo was shown. Same came on. SSDD. It started with TFMJG sitting on the couch talking about she can't believe she's 40, saying something to the effect of I hope you'll tell me I don't look 40, that they're celebrating her birthday in Mexico, a shot of the kids in somberos at her Mexican themed birthday party at the house, the obligatory shot of Kate in her bikini, TFMJG driving an ATV? jeep with some of the kids in it with a voiceover stating " I can't believe I thought this was a good idea", yelling at Collin who was standing in the surf, and a few shots of the birthday girl going out drinking for her birthday.
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Thanks for the recap of the SSDD.
Funny thing is, I could have written most of that without seeing it!
What exactly is 40 supposed to look like? The Crypt Keeper?
Kate, dear, you look every bit of 40 and despite the fact that I can't stand you on just about every single level, that's not a criticism in the least.
Paula said... 169
Gotta love Mama June's chiming in...I don't think TLC will be able to stifle her....
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Momma June is a loose canon. No one at TLC could see this coming?!
InTouch has a new article with a different police report obtained from the Washington County Sheriff's office.(The previous one was from the Springdale Police).
Guess the Duggar's forgot to get that one destroyed.
http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/josh-duggar-chilling-molestation-confession-in-new-police-report-59752
After the latest In Touch and TMZ posts, I think it might be wise for Fox to cancel the pre-taped interview. Drip..drip..drip, I can't see TLC having anything else to do with anyone in this family. Cancelation time for sure.
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NJGal51 said... 175
Has Redbird posted lately?
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redbird said... 29
computer out till tue .
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She's been missing all the fun. Hopefully we will hear from her today.
Kate is a twit said... 184
InTouch has a new article with a different police report obtained from the Washington County Sheriff's office.(The previous one was from the Springdale Police).
Guess the Duggar's forgot to get that one destroyed.
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After this report, any sane family and TV channel would pull the plug on the Duggars' house of cards. Whether the interview tonight is hard hitting or marshmallow soft, the Duggars' are toast and TLC's reputation as the Lying Channel will be further cemented.
Welp....not surprising In Touch had more info. This information just has to end TLC's association with this family. And Meghan Kelly's interview? Is that still on? Does she really want to be a part of interviewing people that allowed continued to allow their son to molest his sisters?
Tonight's interview ought to be interesting. I bet Michelle goes through a lot of kleenex. And ol JB might shed a tear or two.
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I hope that's all he shed when he got home or in nine months TLC will be filming another birth.
Wow, read that report. At least the girls were asleep and missed the worst of the molestation, if that's true.I find it hard to believe anyone could sleep through that,but then children do sleep soundly and were used to being in a common sleeping area.I hope they are not as traumatized as they might have been if there had been a struggle or force used against them. But that doesn't change what their brother did and they know the truth.This is really vile. To think this family made money off their moral wholesome way of life and their many children, who include victims and and a sexual perpetrator.
PA Dutch Mom said... 143
Auntie Ann and P.J. -- yes, the battle of Jericho is in the book of Joshua. Remember the old Sunday School song -- "Joshua fit the battle of Jericho, Jericho, Jericho. Joshua fit the battle of Jericho, and the walls came tumbling down". Ironic, isn't it.
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It is ironic.
I can't seem to remember any of the songs we sang in SS except Jesus Loves Me.
Thank goodness for Youtube.
I just reread parts of the first police report and saw something that I missed. On page 32, it says that the State Police Inv. Taylor found out who wrote the letter which was later found in the book. It says:
"She talked to (redacted) and found that (redacted) was the person who wrote the letter. (Redacted) was the person who (redacted) was supposed to have (redacted) with until the allegations started."
Could that have read "was the person who Josh was supposed to have a courting relationship with"? I remember reading that when Josh was 14 he was "betrothed" to the daughter of one Jim Bob's political friends. I wonder if she is the one who wrote the letter.
Tucker's Mom said... 118
Not sure if this was posted about background checks in reality tv, in the Washington Post
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And then there's this from that article:
"Pinvidic, who helped develop “Jon & Kate Plus 8” for TLC, said all potential reality stars go through a vetting process, complete with psychological and medical tests. A network will pass on a show if there are any signs of trouble.
Even the slightest twinge of issues, a show never makes it,” he said. “It has to be pretty squeaky clean. You have all of your ducks in a row.”
Really? Why am I having a hard time believing that? Kate had to have had a little more than a twinge of issues even back in 2006.
Get out the BS spray, TLC is smelling worse than usual.
I'm going to be humming/singing "This Little Light of Mine" and "Only a Boy Named David" all day. I'll return the favor -- "Zachias Was a Wee Little Man". ;>)
...and a wee little man was he!
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"I may never march in the infantry, ride in the cavalry, shoot the artillery..."
Kate is a twit said... 184
InTouch has a new article with a different police report obtained from the Washington County Sheriff's office.(The previous one was from the Springdale Police).
Guess the Duggar's forgot to get that one destroyed.
http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/josh-duggar-chilling-molestation-confession-in-new-police-report-59752
June 3, 2015 at 7:28 AM
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Wow, In Touch is doubling down and not backing down!
Let's hear people whine about how this was illegally obtained, instead of the chilling events it revealed.
"The document also makes clear that Josh was 15 years old when he molested his 5-year-old sister and committed at least SEVEN acts of sexual molestation."
Sorry, but going after a child like this is what a predator does, not a "young teenager" who's never been told to rub one out.
Anonymous said... 185
After the latest In Touch and TMZ posts, I think it might be wise for Fox to cancel the pre-taped interview. Drip..drip..drip, I can't see TLC having anything else to do with anyone in this family. Cancelation time for sure.
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What will be interesting to see is if the Duggars try to hide the truth because they feel empowered to do so by virtue of the fact that they or someone (read:JB) got the other record "destroyed", and they spoke to Fox with the notion that there was no way to prove them wrong.
I'm betting another "victim" files something to get this new Washington County Sheriff's report destroyed.
Paula said... 188
Welp....not surprising In Touch had more info. This information just has to end TLC's association with this family. And Meghan Kelly's interview? Is that still on? Does she really want to be a part of interviewing people that allowed continued to allow their son to molest his sisters?
June 3, 2015 at 8:47 AM
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I'm betting that having this new report's info. would have impacted the interview.
What is said or not said just might be moot, now that this report is out there.
Jeanne said
I question seriously whether Jill and Jessa would have told their husbands about the abuse. If you are taught that women are responsible for enticing men, that you had to immediately forgive your abuser, would you even feel comfortable telling another man about it?
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I agree. To tell another person about it is later a sign that all is NOT forgiven. To forgive means to also forget in their thinking.
Once a sin has been confessed to the victim, the church and God, and some form of penance has been paid, the subject is forever closed. According to the Duggars, all this has been done, so Josh's "mistake" should never be brought up. Except when it's brought to light in the media, of course. Then it requires a FOX interview. :-)
And then there's this from that article:
"Pinvidic, who helped develop “Jon & Kate Plus 8” for TLC, said all potential reality stars go through a vetting process, complete with psychological and medical tests. A network will pass on a show if there are any signs of trouble.
Even the slightest twinge of issues, a show never makes it,” he said. “It has to be pretty squeaky clean. You have all of your ducks in a row.”
Really? Why am I having a hard time believing that? Kate had to have had a little more than a twinge of issues even back in 2006.
Get out the BS spray, TLC is smelling worse than usual.
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I don't believe for a minute that J+K were put through a stringent background check, nor a mental and physical evaluation.
OK has an article titled "OK! Exclusive: Jessa And Jill Duggar ‘Feel Vindicated’ After Josh Duggar Molestation Scandal Leaked".
It's about Jessa and Jill's reactions about all this coming out, according to a friend of the Duggar family. Don't know whether to believe it but it does sound plausible. Of course, anyone could surmise how they feel and pretend to be a family friend. Not sure if OK checks their sources, especially since they are part of the same group that owns ROL, Star Magazine and the Enquirer.
It's not really an article but one of those annoying picture slide shows with captions and numerous pop-ups ads.
http://okmagazine.com/photos/jill-jessa-duggar-reaction-josh-molestation-scandal-19-kids-counting/photo/1001261856/#netseer
Here's what the captions say:
"Josh Duggar has been the subject of scrutiny after a police report revealed he molested five girls, some of which were his younger sisters, in the 19 Kids And Counting family home. And while the secret has been kept under wraps for over a decade, Jill and Jessa Duggar are relieved that the truth is finally out.
“They have been carrying what happened to them inside for so long, smiling and pretending nothing was wrong,” a friend of the Duggar family told OK! Magazine. “They felt abandoned and betrayed, and they’ll probably never forgive Josh or their parents.”
While the source said it’s been “humiliating and traumatizing to live it all over again” for the girls, Jill, 24, and Jessa, 22, are just “glad that people finally know the truth.”
“For years they had to pretend their family was perfect, and it was unbearable,” the insider said. “With the release of the police report, they feel vindicated.”
Josh has spoken out saying he is “extremely sorry” and Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar said the “dark and difficult time caused us to seek God like never before.” But according to OK!’s source, the Duggar parents told Jessa and Jill that “it was their Christian duty to forgive Josh, and if they didn’t, God would be angry with them.”
“There was no support from Jim Bob and Michelle; all their worry was for Josh,” the source said. “They were told not to tempt Josh, to wear looser clothing so he wouldn’t make another mistake. They were also forced to cook and clean for him and hold his hands at prayer time. They started to think it was all their fault.
In a way I do hope this is true. Maybe it did finally lift a burden from their shoulders that the truth came out and that now they can finally begin dealing with it.
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