Wednesday, January 14, 2015

Recap: Celebrity Apprentice Ep. 3: Mrs. Rivera's check is real.


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Last time on Celebrity Apprentice, a montage of Kate Goz-land stuffing her face. The ladies were "starved" for direction with that doofus at the helm so Brandi and Leeza had to take over as the defacto PMs. Nice pun, writers. Because of some other circumstance, Kate skated by on both tasks, even though she stunk both times. Remarkably, even though Kate was PM, they won the Neat challenge. Despite Kate. It's become sort of the running joke on the blog that, as PJ here so eloquently put it, Kate has horseshoes shoved up her ass. Even though she undeniably sucks at this game, each and every time something else will happen that has nothing to do with her, somebody else needs to be fired as a result, and there she is again, veneers twinkling, to live another day. You can't get mad about this stuff, you just have to laugh.

Shawn is still upset that Vivica told Trump on national television Shawn got her period. As I said last time, that is a pretty clear violation of the girl code, except Shawn was the one who disclosed this information on national television in the first place, so this is sort of bizarre. She could have just said she felt the flu coming on. Shawn compares this to talking about one of her teammates going through menopause. Is she suggesting these ladies are old enough for menopause? Vivica gives her a well-deserved look. Shawn's kind of a bitch. There, I said it.

Whoever did the makeup for the women's interviews I have to agree it's kind of creepy how different they look. They look like they're wearing a painting of themselves. Shawn looks like a completely different person. I think it's great the way makeup can help women feel good and give them a pick-me-up, but if you look so different you're not yourself what's the point?

Geraldo appreciates the love from the ladies but the reception from the men upon his return is a bit icy. I think they were all very fond of Gilbert so this was a blow. He is right that the men's team is working against themselves. (For that matter, so are the women at times.) Geraldo is annoying but he's a strong player, and they need to just embrace that and move on.

Trump gathers the contestants in a grand courtyard.

I am happy I actually recognize these iconic steps as part of Central Park and a quick Google search pinpointed this particular area as Bethesda fountain. I have only been to NYC three times in my life, so I recognize almost nothing usually. What a beautiful setting! Production takes their roles seriously on this show, and I appreciate it. The production values are above average, like the time and effort that goes into the locations we see. Seeing what a great job production has done capturing it this season makes me wish for the first time I knew this city better. It's really blossomed.
The teams are going to create a four-page fitness editorial for Cosmopolitan magazine. Doofus over there is blown away. Wow!!! she exclaims. Yeah, not bad for Wyomissing, PA, right Goz-land? Seriously, she's so out of place here. What is she even doing here?

Johnny the cute baseball player and Jamie the snowboarder are going to be the PMs. I think that makes perfect sense and it's nice to see both of them stepping up immediately when in past weeks everyone has avoided this role.

Jamie's charity is to protect our winters. It's going to be hysterical if her team wins because then Trump will have to give the show's money to something he has called the "GLOBAL WARMING HOAX." All caps, lol. He caused this big ole dustup on the inter webs last year during the polar vortex with tweets like that, remember that? There is some real science behind the belief that global warming is not really happening or if it is, it's just normal temperature fluctuations that have been going on since time began and certainly long before pollution, but I'm guessing you're probably not going to get anyone to listen to an idea different than the mainstream just by hitting that caps lock and labeling all the other side's views a "hoax." At the very least, some of the most prominent global warming theorists are acknowledging there has been a "pause" in the warming trend for at least fifteen years, some admitting even longer, that they've been struggling to explain. But it's Trump, so he's never able to present what might be a good point in any kind of reasonable fashion let alone at a normal decibel level. How in the world Ivanka was sired by him is also a great conspiracy. Perhaps even a HOAX. I myself think she really must have been conceived by velvet and cream puffs and I'm sticking to my theory.

Jamie has a sort of "the devil made me do it" look in her eye when she talks about her charity that makes me think she knows full well Trump doesn't believe this shit, but she's going to pry that money away from him and give it to a cause she loves and he despises because that will just be fun. So far, I like her.

Okay, these editors are amazing. As Jamie crows about how their cover should focus on natural beauty, they cut to a shot of Kenya, then Kate, then Brandi, the three most plastic members of the team. Haha, so well done. Why does Kate still look confused? No one is asking her to understand the concept of a scanner scanning in a receipt or bake a pie or anything difficult like that. It's a magazine cover for pity sake.

Shawn has an idea to feature the two Olympians on the team with the theme "coached by an Olympian." Not bad. Kenya points out though Cosmopolitan is a very sex-focused magazine and so maybe they should be sexier. True, but the executives didn't say anything about sex, unless it was edited out. They want a spread about fitness. Bless her heart, Jamie's goal is to just keep the peace on this team. She is one of those naive PMs who thinks she can both win and keep the peace. At a certain point though she is going to have to stand up for herself and her fate as PM if something is happening that could cause them to lose. I'm worried for her on this task.

Lol, Brandi makes a joke about how Kenya could just "buy" more booty rather than do squats and Kenya's death glare is priceless. Brandi just can't help herself, can she?

Over at Team Vortex, the men are once again looking much more organized. They are quietly studying old Cosmopolitan magazines like it's the GMATs. They quickly realize that Kenya is right, the magazine's focus really is on sex. My boyfriend has a wife???? But he's never mentioned her before!

The boys have this idea for some kind of spread invoking the popular "selfies." I love that Geraldo boasts about how he had a very successful "selfie" a short time ago. Well, right, as the butt of the joke, Geraldo. I will certainly not link to that particular selfie or post it here, because I care about you all. If you are a disturbed person and really want to see it again, I will leave you to find it on your own or ask our blog historian. What I will say is that when that selfie came out everyone was making fun of him for it, but he either doesn't realize this or just doesn't care. And this is the beauty of successful people, bad things slip right past them like they're teflon and not only that but they have an uncanny ability to just embrace the bad or even turn it around into something good, like on this task. Dare I say we could learn something from Geraldo and the selfie that America will never be able to erase from our minds.



Johnny is going to bring in his wife who is a model (of course she is) for the cover. I think Johnny is really trying to say something else, but the way it comes out is that women who read Cosmopolitan are perfect women. I imagine some men feel we should all be reading this. Maybe so ... or not. I don't read it and I don't feel I'm missing anything. I don't get the sense this guy is that bright but he seems pleasant enough.

Geraldo has some creepy ideas where he and Johnny will hug and be naked and take a selfie. Johnny and Ian are doing a Kate "ummmm" face. Which is all you can do in this situation. Ian thinks Johnny should have at least gotten Geraldo dinner and a movie first. Lol.

Jamie sticks Kate on the useless job of "counting, time management, etc." Et cetera, lol. These are the jobs you don't really need someone on but you have to assign to someone on the team who is a nuisance to your progress to keep them out of you and your team's hair extensions. Yea! I think she's finally on to her! Great idea, Jamie, stick Kate on counting, lol. Here Kate, count these sandwiches.



Kate's bored of counting already, instead she's texting. Naturally Kate wants to get rid of Brandi, the second strongest member of this team, because Brandi has conflict with Kenya and it's a side show. And Kate would know, she's been the ring leader of an eight-ringed circus since 2004. But Brandi is right, the model should not be Kenya. Kenya doesn't make sense for their theme. Brandi correctly suggests that the models should be their two gold medalists and then a third random male model. That's not conflict that's just stating the facts. Also quite honestly it's on the PM to tell Brandi and Kenya to knock off this little feud for the task and get down to business. Butt out, Barnum. Everything Kate says sounds like a question. 

Commercials! This question thing is not a regional thing, it's an American thing. And it's gotten worse by the year. Especially people under 30, it's like they must never have any certainty in their lives. We need to stop doing the little question uplift at the end of every sentence. Ask anyone British how an American sounds to them these days and they will tell you to please stop asking questions. If it bothers an American it must sound just infuriating to them. Awww, they're going to train guide dogs on the Today show. A friend of mine got a dog last year who detects when she's going to have a seizure, and he has changed everything for her. For the first time in her life she's not afraid to be left alone in her house, or go out on her own. She can have a social life now, even date. Dogs are beautiful, wonderful creatures.

Ohhhhh, now the girls want Brandi to be the model. In Brandi's defense, she never suggested herself. She's basically like well whatever you decide, if that's really what you want, but I did say it should be a man. This is all really pissing off jealous Kenya, who has to take a breather.

Johnny's wife arrives and she is indeed gorgeous, but please, no more duck lips photos. Lorenzo is so sexy when he directs. Even Lorenzo, who is so nice, admits that Johnny really isn't much to write home about of a project manager so everyone else is stepping up too. I really never got the sense Johnny is anything special. You have to be careful going on a show like this if people don't know you're not special. You don't want to accidentally let the cat out of the bag. I think despite his slow start, Lorenzo is shaping out to be one of the strongest players on the men's team and certainly one of the smarter ones.

The women modeling are going to wrap themselves in a flag and it will look like they are naked. Oh, well Kate knows about that. Kate feels this is "spot owwwwn." I don't know, wrapping yourself in a flag has been done only about a million times before. Seems kind of unoriginal. And also, maybe a bit disrespectful to imply you're naked under there.

Jamie's got this, she sends Kate and Vivica to get props and is like, one hour max, people. Lol, after last task's shitshow that's wise. Based on this and the way she's marginalized Kate, I think it's safe to say Jamie is now up to speed on what this doofus really is all about. Welcome, Jamie. I can't picture Kate puttering around with a "superior" Vivica glaring down on her for more than an hour so that should be okay. I think it's hysterical that we so accurately predicted that Kate will always be the one sent off on little mostly unimportant errands and such just to get her out of the way. Called it.

Kenya is trying desperately to make Brandi's butt pop but I'm afraid Brandi is, well, not Kenya. I can't believe this. Kate's useless to this task, so useless all she can do is count sheeple, but there's all this tension and conflict between Brandi and Kenya, and sweet Jamie can't really handle all this big dog fighting that well, so once again some other circumstances that have nothing to do with Kate, like really nothing to do with her, are probably going to keep her safe, again. Lol, this is just too much.

Ian is rather fascinated with how ripped Terrell is. He can't stop talking about his bumpy road of muscles. Simmer down there, Milo, or we'll turn those lights right on out. Hey, that's my camera! The Canon 5d Mark iii. It's the most perfect camera ever made which is why it's probably responsible for most of the photos you see these days including these ones. You could buy a nice used car with the same amount of money it costs, but it's the only electronic I know out there that is actually really and truly worth that kind of expense.

Kenya is not happy with Jamie's PMing because she's asking everyone else what to do. Kenya really hates Brandi's shoot and wants it to be sexier. Take it off, take it off. Brandi is obviously uncomfortable with this, she's like I've had two kids, I haven't worked out in months... But finally she says whatever fine I'll do it, it's for charity, and strips down to her bra and panties. Good for her. Jamie suggests Photoshop. Lol.

Commercials. Did time-lapse guy get fired? All my favorite time-lapses are missing from this episode. A little too much horsing around with the tilt shift lenses and not enough work? Kate and Vivica come back from shopping after "forever" according to Jamie. Oops, should have kept Kate on the counting job. At least Vivica has a pep in her step as she rushes back to the group. They quickly finish up the shoot with the Olympians wrapped in flags and then begin assembling the magazine.

Leeza, the strongest member of the whole team, is worried that they have two different themes going on here, one being sex and "touch me," the other being the athletes and exercising. Leeza, now sex and exercise do go together. You can burn a hundred calories having sex. If you're Brandi maybe even 200.

Ian wants to include a story in their magazine spread about his wife taking pole dancing classes. I really resent hearing about his wife much less her pole dancing. I guess this magazine does sort of feature stories like that. Geraldo thinks the story is too long. He thinks the photoshoot that goes with it is boring and cheesy. They need something to spice up this spread or they're toast. Geraldo to the rescue. Solution: Geraldo in only his socks, shoes and underwear, pumping dumbbells. Genius.

Geraldo thinks he started the trend of selfies. Heh, no, Geraldo, it's amazing you didn't stop the trend of selfies. I imagine he also takes credit for inventing spot news reporting, and talk shows. Certain shades of narcissism are more amusing than anything and mostly harmless. Lorenzo thinks all joking aside Geraldo is just too old for their target market, which is mostly 20 and 30 somethings.

Johnny does an okay job presenting, and good for him getting up there instead of leaving this job to a more obvious choice like Geraldo. Interrupting the presentation to take selfies is awkward, but at least they were trying to tie the presentation into their spread. Their spread looks professional, but the selfie of Geraldo doesn't fit. And is creepy.

Jamie also presents, and she's nervous and a bit stumbly, but again, good for her when she could have just passed this off on Leeza who is always phenomenal at presenting. I'm not quite understanding their concept but their spread is just as professional looking as the men's. The photos turned out beautiful, all of them. Then again, both teams had several unknowns sitting around computers and operating cameras for them on this task. It's not going to look like your fifth grade English assignment with staff like that. It's kind of questionable how much of this can be attributed to the teams and how much to the helper elves.

Boardroom time already again! Another problem with these fast edits this season is that you don't really get to see much of who and what were really the problem on the tasks. 30 second snippets here and there just aren't enough to delve into and analyze all the weak points, which is one thing that is so fun to do as a viewer. What a shame.

The men had a disagreement over what the title of the project would be and felt maybe they were all a little old for this demographic but overall my boyfriend thinks they won. Jamie also thinks her team won, and Kenya thought she was the star of the team. Well, she did work hard to get that booty of Brandi's to pop. Jamie actually agrees Kenya was really helpful here, she claims she did a lot of the work on this project. To me that didn't really come through that strongly in the edit I saw. I mostly saw her picking at Brandi and at one point even excusing herself from the room. I find it admirable though that Jamie can just move on from the little spat she had with Kenya last episode, which in her time was probably only just yesterday, and admit it when she feels Kenya did a good job and was helpful to her. That said, for all her praise, she probably just found out when she saw this episode that Kenya was talking poorly of her to the cameras throughout the task. That's Kenya.

Trump is pressing Brandi to throw Kenya under the bus because the producers I'm sure told him about their conflict during this task, but good ole Brandi is like I want to be a team like the boys so my answer to that is, I think we won! Lol, she's cute at times, oddly enough. Why is Kate making a shocked face when Brandi says they won? Way to back up your team. Kate's probably not going to be on the chopping block this time around, due to this other circumstance, of course. As usual.

Brandi can't help it, she says Kenya is "evil." Yikes, evil? Kenya is explaining Brandi has been way out of line with her since day one and Kate is sitting there nodding wildly and saying "I agree." Shut up, Kate. This has nothing to do with you. What's more, this feud obviously started way before this show, so what do you know about how it all went down, who started what, and which side to pick? You just hate Brandi because she is on to you. You hate her so much you'll support somebody who is obviously equally a basket case if not more. Everyone else is smart enough to just stay out of this one. Does Kate not understand the second Brandi is gone Kenya will just find somebody else to throw under the bus, and it could be Kate next? Guess what, sure enough nine months later Kenya was the only one to directly rat you out about Steve sharing your hotel room. And here you are wildly supporting her, lol. Doofus.

And just for the record, it is simply not true, Kenya (and Kate who is nodding), that Kenya never does anything to provoke this and always just ignores Brandi. This episode was crammed full of Kenya picking at Brandi and making equally snide and immature remarks about her booty and other things, making her take her clothes off in an obvious attempt to humiliate her (which backfired, Brandi looked great), etc. That's hardly ignoring her. She is no innocent here. It's a bitch fight, and they're both guilty.

The executives overall liked a whole lot of things about the men's "selfie" spread but felt it lacked in a specific takeaway. Fair enough. As for the women, the executives liked their buzzwords, but just like Leeza pointed out ages ago, the spread wasn't cohesive, it kind of jumped around. If they want to win these tasks they really need to talk to Leeza more. She knows how you get a message across, that's her entire career. Maybe Leeza needs to speak up louder when they're screwing up, like Geraldo does. The men win it.

Johnny's charity is a charity he started and helps out in a variety of areas, like wounded warriors. He chokes up, as he is a celeb who truly believes in this stuff. Well, he gets credit for being sincere.

When Trump tells the men to get outta here, he makes a grand sweeping gesture like he's a conductor wildly cutting off the French horns. He's so flamboyant and doesn't care.

Trump wants to know whose fault this was. The Housewives, Jamie explains, because they wanted the attention of being the main model. I'm not really sure what in the world she is talking about. Brandi was very clear she did not want to be the model, and had to practically be dragged kicking and screaming into the shoot. For a couple minutes Kenya did want to be the model but once it was decided that wasn't going to be the case I don't recall her ever mentioning it again. Jamie may be smart however to twist her way into a pretzel to blame this on the Housewives. They both hate each so much they're sure to blame each other in the boardroom and take the heat off Jamie. Well played. Ivanka explains that really Jamie is ultimately responsible for missing the boat on not having the four pages relate to each other or showing what the result will be. Oh, now Kate's all nodding at all this?? She used Jamie for what purpose she could, now it's see ya sister, anybody but Kate. Also she seems to have made a few inroads with Kenya by taking her side in her silly feud with Brandi, so the minions are no longer as much use to her I suppose. What a transparent, fair weather friend she is. It's kind of interesting most of the other women aren't really saying much or even defending themselves when Jamie blames them. I think they all know Jamie is done for and it's best to just try to stay out of it. Mel here on the blog pointed out that Kate always makes sure she's sitting or standing near the strongest player so she can bobble her head and act like it was the two of them versus all the other dolts. It's so true. I'm sure the producers must arrange them sometimes, but Kate surely has a role in where she ends up at other times, and it's just too coincidental how she's always right there in the thick of it, having done absolutely nothing of significance to contribute to the task but still bobbling away like she was all part and parcel to everything. What a doofus.

Wow, amazingly enough Brandi decides to swim upstream and wants Kate fired! Lol! She's all like not withstanding all these other issues all Kate does is shop and zone out and how is that at all helpful? If you want to know how I feel about it fire Kate, Trump. You know, if the team got together on this they could make this Kate thing happen but once again, because of all these other things going on distracting people from the fact that she's a doofus, Kate is pretty much sailing on through these tasks and boardrooms giving 10% effort but for Brandi calling her out. How embarrassing it is that despite Brandi's nasty feud with Kenya, she would still fire Kate? How bad is she anyway?

But, but, "doing errands with Vivica and 'et cetera' was assigned to me," Kate says in her defense. Lol, she's so damn literal. Et cetera, lol. Kate, you forgot counting. I want to know how that went, that was assigned to you too.

Trump gets bored with her before she can even finish her sentence and cuts Kate off to ask her who she would fire, haha. Predictably, she would fire Brandi. Because Brandi is on to her. Haha, Trump gets bored again and cuts her off to ask Vivica something. Vivica says quite honestly you know who drives me nuts? Brandi and Kate.  Fire them. LOL!

I think a lot of stuff was left on the cutting room floor on this episode. I mean, we didn't see any of the entire shopping trip with Vivica. That's a lot of time to drive Vivica bananas we weren't privy to. We didn't see much at all of Kate but she must have done something to have these women tearing their extensions out over her when really they should point to Jamie since it's obvious that's what Ivanka wants. Jamie's a shoe-in, but the women are still going after Kate! Hehe.

Kate manages to sound like a tool when she responds to Trump demanding to know why she isn't stepping up, by saying the reason I don't step up for certain roles is because I'm comfortable in all roles. I.e. the other ladies are only good at some things so I wouldn't want to step up and grab something and take it away from such-and-such if it's going to be the only thing that such-and-such is good at, so I'm just being accommodating to all of their shortcomings, your honor. What a narcissist, and what incredible spin, Steve. Trump really can't stand to listen to her for more than a few seconds before he cuts her off again to move on to someone else. Leeza's shaking her head when Kenya's trying to throw Brandi under the bus saying she's toxic to the team. Leeza says she thinks Brandi's great. I'm going to trust Leeza on this, she's the best player here. Ohhh, Jamie brings back Kate and Kenya. That's really not a bad choice at all. Kenya was responsible for so much on this task she could try to blame the failings on her, and enough people have thrown out some ammunition about Kate tonight she could use that as her backup plan.

The men are baffled why she won't pick Brandi. Eh, Brandi's not going to get fired at this stage. She's too hard of a worker and there's nothing about her feud with Kenya that had anything to do with the outcome of this task. Oh, man, Kenya is pissed that Jamie brought her back. The only problem with this is if you get somebody like Kenya mad enough she's going to fight ten times as hard as you ever will, the boxing gloves are going to come out. Eek.

Oh no, Jamie actually tells Trump maybe she made a mistake bringing Kenya back. Oh, no, oh, no. No you didn't, Jamie, you made a great choice because Kenya did all the layout of this project and was very involved with everything they did wrong, and now you just look indecisive, and bullied. Bonehead move. Sure enough Trump turns this right around on her and says this is just part of the problem, you're indecisive. Sigh.

Oh, how nice of Kate to say Jamie sucked so badly at this because she just loves everyone. She's so patronizing and she's not fooling anyone, least of all I would hope Jamie, playing this off like oh I'm so disappointed my minion just isn't up to snuff but I love her anyway, oh well, keep in touch! Bitch, please. Ivanka acts like maybe bringing Kate back wasn't the best move either. Ivanka! She kind of sounds like she has a head cold, so I can only assume that was some momentary lapse with reality.

Jamie finally says I guess I brought Kenya back because she was so involved with this project. Yes, yes, yes, now you're getting it. Unfortunately she should have been pounding away on that two hours ago. It's too late now. She wants Trump to change the rules and fire Brandi but he acts like, change the rules, what, never! Even junior jumps in to say come now, Jamie, you can't be serious. Heh.

Trump says look I could spend time asking Kate and Kenya who he should fire, but that would make him want to tear the rest of his hair out one strand at a time so let's just skip all that shall we? Thank you, Trump. Jamie, you're fired. Trump seems relieved he doesn't have to give a dime to that global warming hoax charity. It's incredible the way Kate tries so hard to act like something she's not. She is so fake. She gives Jamie this awkward bear hug, swaying her side to side like you would your daughter as she goes off to college, stay positive you're just so wonderful and I love you blah blah blah. Stay positive, lol. It's a reality show for gosh sakes. You knew this woman all of what, a week? Good grief.

Jamie doesn't understand that her mistake here was not that she didn't bring Brandi back. That's irrelevant. The mistake was in not explaining why this was all Kenya's fault, as she was more or less in charge of exactly what they screwed up. She should have used Kenya's own words against her! Before they found out they won, Kenya herself said that she was the "star" of this task. She gave herself all the credit. Then it was revealed they fucked up. So who do you blame but the self-proclaimed star? It's so simple. Why no one else seems to get this except Leeza is beyond me, but I think quite frankly, Kenya intimidates a lot of them. As is her right, bullying is part of her game play.

In the car ride home Jamie says this was "almost" her first time being fired in life. Almost her first time? Hehe, I want to hear about the first time!

Oh thank goodness, timelapse guy is back with some cool night shots of city traffic.

Predictably, Kenya just gets cockier about herself having made it through the boardroom. You got through because some 25 year old or whatever couldn't get her thoughts together. Big whoop, doesn't mean you're any good. Look at, Kate. This is her second boardroom and she still sucks at this game.

It seems to me a good many of the players here like Kenya, or at least don't mind her. Terrell touches her ass and discovers it feels real. Brandi thinks it's quite interesting the way she's manipulated them. I don't know if that is the case. I think it's just not the best idea to go around picking fights with people on a show where everyone has a say in who is getting voted off. I think it's as simple as that. Surely at least some of these ladies darn well know, at least Leeza, that Kenya was more or less in charge of a task that utterly failed. I mean pretty much everyone has been shaking their head about Kate, but only Brandi has been actually actively picking a fight with her to her face. That's just game play. Somebody might drive you bonkers, but you might put up and shut up about it because you don't want to call attention to yourself.

The next morning it's pouring rain, who doesn't love New York in the rain, and they meet at the gorgeous Central Park Boathouse. I love it, it's so Dirty Dancing. The task is to sell wedding dresses and raise money for charity. They can charge whatever they want for the dress.

Trump mixes up the teams and the new teams are Kenya, Brandi, Leeza, Johnny, Terrell and Ian as their PM. (Leeza? You're going to have to step up sometime if you are serious about winning this.)

The other team is Kate, Vivica, Shawn, Lorenzo, the crab fisherman, and Geraldo as PM. Geraldo sounds a little bummed he has to step up as PM again so soon but he's like look, I looked around at my team (especially at Kate, right?) and realized I am really the only one who has any business stepping up on a fundraising task. True enough. I am mad Kate got separate from Brandi, the only person willing to call her out to her face. Crab fisherman's lucky if he can figure out how to set an oven timer correctly let alone worry about giving Kate a hard time. Nobody else here is going to give her much grief except Geraldo but chances are he'll be too busy doing actual work and such to bother.

Vivica is so relieved to get some "new energy" on her new team.

If Jamie was a Type B personality, just get along with everybody I don't even realize when someone is upset with me, Geraldo is such a classic competitive, type A personality that you just have to laugh. You cannot stop people like him. Getting mad at them just makes them work against you harder. As Geraldo explains, having Ian on the opposite team, Ian who used to be aligned with Jonas brother, just motivates Geraldo to work harder. I guess Geraldo strongly associates Ian with his nemesis Jonas brother. That feels like ages ago but Geraldo has not set things right yet about that in his psycho mind. It's not really about his charity as much as it's about showing Ian because he is just wired this way, he simply must show Ian. And that's the mistake boyfriends like Ian make. They get in a game with that nut thinking it's poker on a Friday night with the boys, meanwhile Geraldo acts like it's Vegas and the world series and it's Doyle Lawson on his left and Ian on his right and a quarter of a million dollars posted as the small blind. He's just playing this completely psycho competitive crazy thing that nobody else is or ever has before on this show and he's smoking everyone as he goes.

Geraldo is getting the game plan together and there's Kate right next to him sort of in the Barney Fife role, vigorously scribbling down notes for him as if that is at all helpful.  Geraldo wants to know estimated fundraising numbers from everyone.

"I'm pretty comfortable saying 50," Kate says with a straight face. 50, what? 50 bucks, it has to be. Surely not $50,000. Baw-hahhaha. Baw-hahaha.  How do you go from zero on the first task to $50,000 three days later? Rat Claws better have inherited the DuPont estate in the past three days or she's lying.

Ew, Geraldo is one of those men who doesn't cut their nails that often. I have always found that so gross. A man should not have nails unless he plays guitar.

Ha, the crab fisherman, Shawn and Vivica, who are all in the other van, have the same reaction as me! They're just like, 50 grand? You've got to be joking, Goz-land. I love that she's the butt of the joke for just about everyone, even if most people don't feel like saying it to her face. Other reality stars are making fun of her, like crab fisherman and Brandi. She is a joke even among jokes, it's so bad.

Vivica lets us in on the fact that in the Pie Face episode Kate had promised to bring in $25,000 and nothing showed up. That's great information that they never told us before. So Kate was telling everyone that mythical check was for 25 grand?? Hahaha. Kate's not above lying to act like she has any business whatsoever among these real celebs. It's pathetic, sad, and most of all hysterical. Color me shocked that crab fisherman seems to be implying that if Kate pulls that kind of crap again.....you fill in the blank. Sounds like he means to see to it she's fired. Wow, and I was just saying I didn't think he had any interest in her. This is awesome. Carry on!

Ian is talking to his team like he is William Wallace, trying to get them all motivated. The goal is to raise money. The plan is now. His charity is for children who have a genetic disease that causes sores on their skin. Why did he pick this charity? Because he loves skin care. And kids. Thus, a charity about skin care and kids. Ian's even dressed in plaid. Braveheart's army never looked this bored.



And dying in our beds one day, Brandi, will you trade one chance, just one chance, to beat Kate Goz-land at the wedding dress challenge on Celebrity Apprentice? Brandi's eyes glaze over. I had no idea my boyfriend was such a Hollywood fruitcake. I think we may be breaking up in this episode.

Holy shit, Ian has almost $200,000 locked, loaded and ready to go! Way to barely bring out hardly any of that in the Pie Face challenge, geez Louise. There was more game play going on in that Pie Face challenge than I gave these dumb clucks credit for. There is no way Geraldo is going to anticipate Ian has that much he could bring in, is that real? This is the best episode yet so far, mixing the teams around was like a double shot of espresso. I'm ready now.

Commercials!

Ian's team, every single one, are all working the phones like crazy. Exactly what you should do on a fundraiser challenge. There's a ton of food around and everyone is chowing down but the editors aren't editing this to make fun of anyone for eating. That's just saved for Kate. Brandi is ten feet away trying not to have drama and have some quiet for her phone calls. Ian wants her to rejoin the group, like I said ten feet away. She's like eh, no thanks. Terrell gets bored after a few phone calls and stops calling, eats a sandwich, yawns, and so on. Kenya tries to encourage him to get back to it. I think he is one of the biggest duds but I haven't heard a single person flag him as a weak link. Odd.

Over at Geraldo's team he too is on the phone. Kate's in the background sort of playing with her phone but not actually talking on it. Even Lorezno, Sig, and Shawn are making calls.

Kate is worried that her nonexistent money might not come in again. Why? It's not snowing anymore. It's not even raining. Maybe the abominable snowman melted along with the check?

Oh God, I hate what a good idea this is. Ted Gibson stops by and Kate sets him up to agree to give a free hair consultation for those buying dresses. Was this all Kate's idea? It can't be, it's too good. I'm skeptical about the responsible party. Kate claims it's her idea. She also has this idea that she and Geraldo will dress up as a bride and groom and stand outside getting people to come in. It's better than just a boring sign. I would have bet money on that being someone else's idea to just get her out of the way. Who is this woman and what was in that coffee Steve gave her this morning? She's actually contributing something more meaningful to the task than her usual shocked and appalled faces and knick knacks from Bed Bath and Beyond. I get the sense it's really important to her to impress Geraldo. I know he's PM and all, but she seems really overly eager to please him, almost like a strange sort of father figure type psychology going on here, you know what I mean?

You know the sad thing about this? This just proves Kate does have it in there. There are good ideas to be had in that little noggin ready to go and she can work if she would just apply herself once in awhile and not be so darn lazy and zoned out all the time. Aw, Geraldo gives her some nice encouragement, calls this sudden brainstorm session quite enterprising of her. I guess you can't fix stupid. Kate doesn't know what enterprising even means, lol. Shoulda asked her kids, I'm sure they could tell her, they've lived it.

Kate's thrilled they finally have men on the team so they can do all the heavy lifting of carrying the dress racks inside and she can assume her usual role of ordering others about. If those are what I've lifted before, those racks are darn heavy. Team Estrogen, the crab fisherman mutters. Hehe.

No one can find Brandi. Oh no, she took off. She calls Ian and said she had a panic attack and went back to the hotel and will work from her bed. Oh, dear. Kenya thinks this is because Brandi is all intimidated by Kenya. Nah, I don't think so. I do think it's because she has difficulty controlling herself at times and shuts down. She doesn't want to explode on Kenya or anyone and cause a problem so she checked out.  She's like this on the Real Housewives show, too. She slips into bad places and does unwise things and makes unwise comments. I've thought at times she is the survivor of some kind of abuse, I don't know by whom. She needs a lot more therapy than even she already has gotten, but I do think she means well under all these issues. And, why do I feel like once again some other circumstance that has nothing to do with Kate is going to result in somebody else getting fired other than Kate. Yep.

Lorenzo the rat tells Geraldo Ian has told them his number is $180,000. I like that Lorenzo's the narc here. This is his new team now and if he is not here to win why is he here at all? Ian was a real dummy to tell anyone that number until he absolutely had to. Of course all this information does is motivate Geraldo all the more. Now he has a number to aim for, and that's bad news for Ian. The only way this could ever work out for Ian is if Geraldo did not know his number. Now that he  knows it? Game over for my boyfriend and I'm breaking up with him, too. Kate's all giddy because she's sitting front and center and being treated like a real live team member and confidant. Geraldo doesn't have time to do anything but just act like he's accepted her, he has bigger fish to fry and a sleepless night ahead coming up with more donors.

It's the morning, and look at how peppy and talkative Goz-land is this fine morning. She is finally in her element. She's self-appointed herself Geraldo's assistant and loving the ego inflation from it, Brandi's not in her hair extensions anymore, a semi-real celebrity Ted Gibson is on his way over to help her win and so is a big fat check she hopes. Look at her out there in the wedding dress, laughing and joking with Geraldo about her eight kids and so on. This is just nuts the way she came alive. She's been hibernating this whole time.

Brandi is back and dressed up all nice and looking much better and already bringing in some donations. Good, I hope that's all over with. But Geraldo's team brings in a $100,000 check early. Good Lord, that is so much money. All kidding aside, can you imagine writing a check like that? Rich people are another world.

Ian brings in the Chip 'n' Dales. Hello.

Kate's being all clever and stuff. Kate must have an earpiece in her ear, she has to. She's like Sig was wrestling in women to the store like he must wrestle fish. Well, crabs are better described as crustaceans, but I'll let that go since at least she's making an effort to say interesting and funny things. Guess what, if you make an effort to be cute and clever, you suddenly get edited into the cut a lot more.

Noooo, Ian gets a check for $165,000. You know, I have to say for as silly as this task is I'm almost tearful here. Man alive, the generosity out there makes you really want to believe in the human race again. Who throws around that kind of money at charity? A lot of people, apparently.

Eric Trump comes over to check things out and wants to know where Kate's check is she promised. There's only minutes left. On it's way, she says. Lol. I wonder if Kate ever thinks about this idea that whoever her donor is obviously isn't taking her all that seriously to flake on her the first task and cut it down to the wire on the second. That's not very respectful of her.

Terrell sucks, some of his donors are falling through. At least Kate is hustling on her phone trying to get an ETA. Terrell explains that the reality is he really isn't comfortable begging for money. I see. I mean, I get that. It's the last thing I would want to do. But I'm guessing a lot of people don't like doing this, but they've done it because it was for the team and for the win and it's what was expected of them. If this is really not something you're willing to do then you shouldn't have bothered with this show.

Like a knight in shining armor Kate's donor pulls up in a beautifully crisp Mercedes. Who is this guy? He looks cool, like I own a minor league baseball team and a software company in Austin cool. I skimmed some mutterings about who he was on the blog but haven't had a chance to read most of the comments so I'm in the dark still.

Somebody pointed out a common theme when editing this show is to show some kind of dud contestant making a real turn around, and this was indeed Kate's redemption edit. That was the cliche storyline straight out of the playbook, and they fit her into it. Life's a funny thing.

Final boardroom of the night! Ian sells Brandi out about her little incident, and says it was because of Kenya. Brandi said it had nothing to do with Kenya, she just had a panic attack and felt really sick and even threw up. That does sound like symptoms of a real panic attack and they really aren't necessarily triggered by something big like some huge feud with Kenya. I find it hard not to believe Brandi when she said she would continue to make calls from her bedroom and then once it was over was right back there ready to work the next morning and bringing in money without skipping a beat. It's not like she was checked out the whole task as Kenya loves to spin it. Even Trump said a panic attack is not really "checking out," that's hardly fair.

This is really being set up as Kenya vs. Brandi, and someone will have to go and soon.

Barney Fife just loves her boss. She's in awe of everything about him, it was an honor to work for him. He's marvelous. Lol, what is Trump's response to all this ego stroking? Do you have a boyfriend? Haha, he just blurts it out like your grandfather would in front of everyone at the Thanksgiving table. Kate's like uh, uh, well no, but I'll be Geraldo's next ex-wife. Lol. Oh, Kate, it's not as much fun to make fun of you when you're joking too.

It's amazing what a little self-deprication and loosening up will do, Goz-land. I will never say I actually liked her in this episode, but she didn't grate on my last nerve and I wasn't bringing out the doofus term as much as usual, which is saying a lot. You know what, I think she's so intimidated by other strong women she just can't hack it. She shuts down, can't control herself when provoked. She gets along with people like Geraldo because she responds to people who either are much younger and she can mother, or those so much older and wiser they take on a fatherly role toward her. Nobody was going to mother or father Kate on the women's team, that's not how women are in this competition usually. Thus, she reverted to an ineffective doofus. I have a sneaking suspicion this is why she loves Steve so much, he too fulfills that fatherly role for her she responds to so well, and brings out the best in her.

Trump's still playing the grandfather. He's like hey you over there, Shawn, you've really grown up! Haha, that's all he says to her. Poor Shawn.

Trump said there was $600,000 raised with only about a $2,500 difference. Wow! That's unbelievable! His solution to this is to allow the project managers to each keep their own money or go for broke and stick to the deal with winner taking all. There's no way they're not sticking to this deal, they're both too psycho and Type A, and splitting the pot will always make a Type A feel like they didn't really win even if they did.

Geraldo admits that going for broke would just be an ego move, which is entirely true, and begrudgingly he will have to put that aside and just split it. I'm shocked. Good for him and nice for the charities. How wonderful for both charities. I can't even imagine what a small charity like Camp Barnabas would do with this sort of money. I mean it would change everything for them. You could make a freaking endowment in perpetuity with that sort of money and never have to worry about fundraising ever again. As much as money doesn't have to be important in one's life, it can also do a lot of powerful, amazing things.

Geraldo's team wins. Wow. Geraldo says artistic again to mean autistic. So that wasn't just a fluke, I think he thinks that's how it's pronounced, hehe.

Oh this is so sad. How can Trump fire anyone on a team that brought in almost $300,000? How crazy. Geraldo knew they won because he could actually just add in his head and the numbers Trump was throwing out plus the number he knew he had told him they won before it was announced. I was thinking that. Anyone who can add in their head would know the result of this. But of all these dolts only Geraldo could figure it out. The rest were just sitting there waiting in suspense. Hehe.

Trump agrees to round off both men's numbers to $300,000. Ian admits Brandi raised about $40,000, even from bed at home. Based on that, I say her panic attack is a complete non-issue at this point. Kenya only raised $30,000 without a panic attack, so. Leeza raised a respectable $20,000.

Geraldo says based on those numbers you can't justify firing either Brandi or Kenya. Lorenzo thinks Leeza is safe too. Uh oh, that only leaves Terrell and Johnny. Either one of them is a dud so it doesn't matter to me. Trump is confused how people like Terrell and Johnny with their contacts can't come up with much of anything. It's pretty simple, because some people are shy about cold calling asking for money even if it's for charity even if it means they'll be fired. Ian is absolutely correct to bring back Terrell or Johnny. I imagine these men are shocked he would bring long-standing team members back over the women they just joined up with, but Ian is playing to win so you can't blame him for that. If he does something stupid like bring someone back who raised $40,000, next thing you know Ian will be gone. One of them is done and Ian will be safe, but I'm afraid Ian and I? We've broken up. I'm fine. I'll just box up his stuff and he's going to pick it up tomorrow when I'm not home. Really, I'm okay. Ian is in disbelief that one of Terrell's donors that fell through would have been enough so that they won. That is crushing. Terrell seems ready to go, I think he's had about enough.

My ex has his moments where he's a real nut. "Inspiration" is how he raised this kind of money. Huh? Freak.



Terrell, you're fired. Dud from day one. See ya.

The future will deliver, William Wallace says in his plaid suit as he gazes into Terrell's eyes. It's inside of you. Freedom!!! You know Beverly Hills High was built on an oil well. It pumps $300,000 in profits a year of that stuff believe it or not. Maybe the fumes have finally caught up to him.

Aw, next week the great Joan Rivers will be an advisor on the show. What sweet justice that one of her final acts on this earth is to take Kate Goz-land to task.

Fun fact. Kate and Vivica are the only women to have won their tasks as Project Manager so far. Fun fact, Kate has been to the boardroom twice and come out alive twice. We live in a parallel universe, folks. Happy 1,000th!

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TLC stinks said...

She does not tell the kids where their vacation is because, quite simply, the producer wants to film their surprised reactions. The excitement must be recorded to prove mommy dearest loves her kids so much.

Formerly Duped said...

I watched the K+8 special On Demand last night to kill time. Wow. the girls tups are out of control, all three.None seem very nice children. Alexis said something like 'they (meaning H and L) always get to be together ' Bad dynamics there. All three were sassy. The boys I think may be out of control if given the chance, especially when older- power in numbers. However, I'm happy the three seem to be getting along and are appealing kids. The twins- nasty. Basically they just mocked Kate and the trip.I won't comment on their physical appearance.

Kate mentioned she's all about educational trips- ha. Good thing she 'discovered' they hadn't been to New England. The shrieks and faces, ugh. She's obnoxious and the kids know it and commented.

I also noted that the girls' toiletries were in little pouches while the boys' were in baggies! What a hullabaloo about packing their new Love Peace whatever clothes! As for the manners Kate supposedly taught them, Alexis ate with her fingers and Mady was just silly with the lobster.More thoughts to follow if I remember.I do think Kate is getting the idea the kids cannot be controlled by her much longer except via their 'currency."

Rhymes with Witch said...

Formerly, I have no advice to add, just 'wishes, hopes and prayers'.

(a la Dusty Springfield).

Winsomeone said...

Why does Kate think all eight will even go to college? She will be lucky if two or more actually go and finish, and get a degree of some sort. I think the chances are good that any kids who do go will self implode once they are out from under Kate's thumb.

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Is the blog changing direction to 'outing' fans? I ask because it could be a slippery slope. Do we need to know what the children of fans have been up to? Perhaps that, er, mess should be left on twitter.


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No. There's just been so many comments sometimes I just skim them and publish them and don't look all too carefully, rather than make you wait while I go through each one carefully one by one. If you're a regular chances are your comment is getting published without much of a look. Especially since I really haven't had major comment problems lately, which means usually approving a bunch of comments in batch is fine.

I appreciate you all not feeding the odd comment or two that gets through that maybe shouldn't have.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Why does Kate think all eight will even go to college? 3

Imo, for a few reasons. First and foremost, those all important college funds that are funded or unfunded, depending on what day she is speaking. The "fact" that all of them are academically superior (honestly, I am more concerned about their emotional well being) and because it would feed her ego. As if any college would allow them to be filmed on campus.

Mel said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 
184Dmasy said... 178Sue Buddy! Dwindle! Be still my beating heart!Flimsy, I will move my purse, my knitting, my snacks and my Croc shoes off the rocker for this special day!
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High holy day on blog!

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Ok. Now I am laughing out loud!!

AuntieAnn said...

Breaking out the good kegs and stringing up Chinese lanterns. Dwindle and Sue Buddy are on the veranda! Happy Hour will start early today (and last longer :O)




Anonymous said...

Hey, Formerly, I guess I posted about the same time you gave your update. Sorry your pup is suffering anxiety. Talk to the vet about changing it up. Maybe a change of meds is in order. My boys get the opposite reaction to sedation too. Instead of benadryl, I give plain old aspirin and it knocks them out. Talk to the vet about changing it up.

My daughter's cat has been on some anti-anxiety meds too and a rare side effect is food aggression, so you just never know.

All the best and I home he comes home soon.

PJ

chefsummer #Leh said...

I hope the kids get out and go to college.

But I bet mommy will guilt most of them into staying by her side.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

AuntieAnn, I don't want to embarrass you, but Dmasy's snacks
were snatched off the wicker rocker, and rumor has it you have
orange Cheeto dust on your fingers. But if you admit what you've done, you guys can hug it out (since you're not an icky boy, you
won't be punished).

I'm sure feeling the warm fuzzies on the blog this morning --
long live (no, not "long liver") the Cesspool of Hate!

Formerly Duped said...

Good idea, PJ and thanks. I need an anti-anxiety med myself. I'm such a baby when it comes to my kids and fur baby. No way can I Skype her in pain, anxious, with an E-collar, bandages and catheter, still paralyzed.And I'm a nurse!

Hello Sue and Dwindle

localyocul said...

Formerly I hope your pup makes out ok. My dog had ACL surgery and was very anxious even after she got home. She whined for one day and night (yes pretty much nonstop) even when snuggling her, but then she settld down.

Rainbirdie said...

“They’re going to want to see the kids going through college and all of that, which is really hard for me to imagine.”
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What exactly is hard for her to imagine? The kids going through college? Or that anyone would want to see it? She is going to ride this train as long as she can. I'm sure she's envisioning "The Tups Turn 50: See them visit Kate at the nursing home for their traditional carnival birthday party".

Mel said...

When she said that the tups are more interested as they get older, I think she meant that they are more interested in watched *her* be on tv...they're more interested in watching her interviews on talkmshows, etc.

Mel said...

Notice how the real celebs keep a pleasant look on their faces when someone else is being asked a question.

Being as TFW isn't a real celeb, she sits in the back and makes faces when the spotlight isn't on her. Even us mediocre people have better manners than that!

Suze said...

Jarett Wieselman ‏@JarettSays
It's really crazy that we're still talking to and about Kate Gosselin. #CelebApprentice #TCA15

Jason Lynch ‏@jasonlynch
@JarettSays She was seething that she hadn’t been asked a question until that last one.

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Bwahahahaha, poor schmoopy! Feelin' left out and out of place again, huh schmoops? I'll bet she feels like the last kid picked for a game in grade school; not fun when you're a child but it couldn't happen to a more deserving adult now!

foxy said...

The 6 younger Gosselin kids will be 19 when they graduate high school. The poor kids have an extra year in that house. I wonder if the boys will still be in the basement.

AuntieAnn said...

Formerly - holding your virtual hand through this period of post surgery and hoping all goes well.

AuntieAnn said...

Flimsy - Dang. Caught orange-handed. Not naming names but check out PA Dutch Mom's fingers too. Hugs and apologies to Dmasy. I will polish your crocs every day for a week if you'll forgive me. (but they were such a nice change from popcorn)

Over And Out said...

I don't have twitter, so I must really be out of the loop, but who is Jo Camp?

Alice Of Wonderland~ ‏@Alice_WLZH541 4m4 minutes ago
@Kirclaire @StarOcean2087 @LichKing_X @NorrieC_UTD @Prof_Varien Jo Camp threatening Kate Gosselin. #BullyJoCamp

NJGal51 said...

<=======maybe she was thinking about dinner #longerliver.

Over And Out said...

Auntie Ann said: Dwindle and Sue Buddy are on the veranda! Happy Hour will start early today (and last longer :O)

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lol! Does it ever end? I thought it's just one continuous Happy Hour here!

AuntieAnn said...

“They’re going to want to see the kids going through college and all of that, which is really hard for me to imagine.”

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Will 'all of that' include their therapy appointments?

Good grief. She's losing control over most of the them now, does she really think she'll be able to keep them on a leash for the next nine years?

Anonymous said...

Oh boy, TFW thinks the cameras will be following these kids to college? A morning coffee, or cahwfee, snortable moment, if any. I know college is several years away, but does she seriously see them all going? My gut feeling is that most of them are average students, at best, attending a highly competitive school. Neither parent has much post high school education, and TFW will follow a camera over attending important school meetings. College will not magically happen, and $$$ are the least of it. Does she think this school is going to hold their hands, take the SATs for them, identify appropriate schools and then fill out the apps. I am sure that their exclusive private school does provide much more of this planning support than ex public high school, but honey, the role of the parent, even in the private sector, cannot be stressed enough. Does she think TLC will be sending in the advisors if it means filming the excitement of the tips going to college as a pack. God help her whe. She realizes that 8, count 'Em 8, kids could mean 8 schools should they all go. And she will be pushing 50. Yep, that's a show we can all hardly wait to see. Enjoy the Pasadena sunshine Katie, it may be your last trip.

Orange Crusher

Tucker's Mom said...

Formerly Duped said... 12
Good idea, PJ and thanks. I need an anti-anxiety med myself. I'm such a baby when it comes to my kids and fur baby. No way can I Skype her in pain, anxious, with an E-collar, bandages and catheter, still paralyzed.And I'm a nurse!

Hello Sue and Dwindle
January 17, 2015 at 8:33 AM
localyocul said... 13
Formerly I hope your pup makes out ok. My dog had ACL surgery and was very anxious even after she got home. She whined for one day and night (yes pretty much nonstop) even when snuggling her, but then she settld down.
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The whining is the worst- you just don't know what to do!
I think the dogs get quite disoriented and are confused out of anesthesia, but it goes away.
You never know how they'll react to meds, too. My old Bichone (that got the spinal surgery) became afraid of thunder in his old age, to the point that he just shook. So, we tried a vallium once, and he stumbled around a bit and wound up staring at the wall.
Weird. Never tried that again.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate can't imagine a world where she and her brood are not relevant. I can't believe she's now pushing for filming during college.
She'd better be prepared for the kids having their own contracts, managers and agents, because she won't be getting all the money at that point.

Dmasy said...

Don't worry Flimsy and Auntie. I have ample room under my flowing mu mu to hide extra snacks.

Ex Nurse said...

Kate really suffers in comparison to Leeza. Leeza comes across as a mature, polished and articulate person who does not resort to making faces and knows how to hold still. Despite her professional demeanor, she is warm and like able.

By contrast. TFW is inarticulate, with painfully long pauses, odd facial expression and awkward body movements. If TFW had invested in learning communication skills, she might actually have had a career. But, she is unteachable--that is her biggest flaw in terms of her own success.

Tucker's Mom said...

Formerly Duped said... 12
Good idea, PJ and thanks. I need an anti-anxiety med myself. I'm such a baby when it comes to my kids and fur baby. No way can I Skype her in pain, anxious, with an E-collar, bandages and catheter, still paralyzed.And I'm a nurse!

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It's sometimes tougher when you're aware what's going on clinically. Today and tomorrow are going to be tough for your pup, but think positive thoughts and get everything ready for when he (she?) comes home.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Not being teachable is a fatal flaw in her plan.

The other fatal flaw is failing to account for the children being their own people. Even now that the children are growing into themselves and becoming their own people, she STILL hasn't accounted for that. It's just gotten harder for her to slog through the mud given this factor. Eventually that mud will turn to stone and she won't be able to move anymore. That just reflects on her and how she sees them, as a means to an end and not eight beautiful individuals with eight personalities, wishes, desires, hopes, dreams, that may not include what she would like.

AuntieAnn said...

Someone must have jacked her up about her Camp Barnabas promo blurb. She never once mentioned it was a drop-off spot so parents can have a break from their kids.

She said she spoke there 'a number of years ago'. It was 2012 Kate, not 1998.

Ex Nurse said...

I caught the part of the RV episode when Ashley left. TFW turns to the camera and says that eventually everyone leaves me because of my situation (summarizing). She honestly does not get that it is not in spite of the children that people come into her life and try to help--it is because of them. Although some of those relationships may have begun as friendships, many people tried to stay involved be asus of the slow motion train wreck and the transformation of Mother Goose into Cruella Deville.

In the Leeza interview, when asked about Camp Barnabas, TFW saiid that it is the one place can feel "normal". It is so telling that she cannot grasp that differences are not abnormalities. A camp experience like that is similar to the LPA (Little People of America) conventions, in that they share similar challenges and they are not compared to average sized people. That doesn't mean that they are there to feel "normal". They are there to share their community and support one another.

It isn't her regional accent that does her in--it is her narrow world view.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Over, 21...

Why is Kate being threatened and by whom?

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About Kate's "accent" --

I was listening to her on some of the commercials, and I always thought that she had a bit of a PA Dutch accent, but it's not. It's not country bumpkin, either. We don't talk like that here. I know that I have a little bit of the typical accent, not as pronounced as some, but Kate's is just so strange. It seems to be the weird inflections, maybe trying to sound youngish, with some CA twang thing thrown in. Regardless, it grates on the nerves. I just can't stand to listen to her speak. Sometimes it's really monotone and other times ends with that uptalk at the end of her sentences. I have no idea where she picked that up, but trust me, it's not your typical southeastern PA accent.

Anonymous said...

I so agree, even worse than being unteachable ( a life coach for her glaring flaws in personality skills would have been a wiser investment than the 'beauty' treatments IMO) is her inability to see and accept her children for the individuals they are. She only goes so far as to break them into gender groups (hello 1957), but when the cameras roll, or she gets a chance to Umm her way in front of a microphone, they are the 6, the twins or the 8. I am sure their dad could address who they are as people, since I suspect he actually talks to them. At parent-teacher conferences she probably has to be told which child is being discussed.

Does that verandah have any rockers? I could sure use one this weekend. Baking brownies for us all :-).

Orange Crusher

Mel said...

She also should invest in learning how to stand and how to dress.

This latest dress isn't bad but it accents that her lower leg bone is an odd length compared to her thigh bone. A different length or shape of skirt would make a world of difference there. Figuring out shoes that don't highlight the short calf length would help also.

And learning how to pose so that she doesn't look so masculine. Stop looking like a line backer. Hint: standing sideways is not the right answer.

Call Me Crazy said...

Formerly - I hope your furry little girl is feeling better very soon! I am sending good thoughts!

Nice to see you back on the veranda, Sue Buddy and Dwindle! Keep a firm grip on your rumspringas and a sharp eye out for some "ones" here who can't keep their hands out of the Cheetos bag.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I was listening to her on some of the commercials, and I always thought that she had a bit of a PA Dutch accent, but it's not. It's not country bumpkin, either.


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To me she sounds JUST like my friends from Philly. King of Prussia area.

Call Me Crazy said...

Oooh, Orange Crusher. Brownies are the devil's work - and my fave!!! I'll bring the milk.

Ex Nurse said...

Sue Buddy--so glad you dropped by! Hope to hear more from you

Anonymous said...

This HAS to be a joke! Amazon is featuring a book entitled: "Kate Gosselin 27 Success Facts - Everything you need to know about Kate Gosselin". The author is Julia Stafford. I have to wonder if Milo has outed herself.

bm

Formerly Duped said...

I agree, Crusher.It's the boys, the twins, L and H, and I guess no wonder Alexis likes the animals- she is shunted to basements, couches, different bedrooms but I hope not outdoors like Shoka! Another thing from the special I noticed was L and H wore similar Peace Love dresses but A's was different.The boys were all in various shades of blue on the couch.

Kate really treats the kids differently according to their 'group.' She has subdivided boys and girls a bit but never individuals.

Sue_Buddy said...

I appreciate the kind comments and warm welcome to this beautiful veranda from such perceptive and humorous ladies.

Formerly Duped, I'm like you. When my dog isn't well, I'm beside myself with worry. Last year my guy got sick and I was so stressed that I drove through a stop sign, right in front of a police officer--didn't even see him. Then to make matters worse I burst out sobbing. Ugh. I guess I caught him off-guard, he asked me if I was going to take my "doggie" to the vet and said he understood, he had dogs, too. He wrote me a warning instead of giving me a ticket. Oh, and my "doggie," the officer actually said that, recovered. I hope your dear pup has a speedy recovery.

And to the person who mentioned Paws, do they stay on through walks and lickings? I need something like that for my dog's paws in the summer and fall when all the weeds that have grown during the rainy season dry up and the thorny seed pods blow all over the pathways. They get stuck in his paws, it's a real problem. They blow into my front yard, too, and he even go in the yard in the summer and fall.

PA Dutch Mom said...

To me she sounds JUST like my friends from Philly. King of Prussia area.

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Hmmm...

I went to school in that area, and she doesn't sound like any of my friends there. Thank goodness!

Vanessa said...

Just watched the Leeza/tfw interview.
Leeza Gibbons is 57??!
Although she's been obviously nipped, tucked, pulled and stapled, she and tfw actually look the same age...which would be mid to late 40's

PA Dutch Mom said...

Does that verandah have any rockers? I could sure use one this weekend. Baking brownies for us all :-).

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I'm making pots of Old Grandma Soup (isn't that what Kate called them?)... chicken corn, chicken with rivels and some beef spaetzle. Of course, I add about 15 cups of rumspringa to each one of them and then they all taste the same!
Come on over!

PatK said...

Kate has that annoying "up talk" (I think it's called), where she sometimes says a word with a question mark inflection. It's to make her sound cool and fit in with teens.

AuntieAnn said...

Call Me Crazy said... 37

Keep a firm grip on your rumspringas and a sharp eye out for some "ones" here who can't keep their hands out of the Cheetos bag.

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Now that we know where Dmasy stashes the snacks that probably won't happen again.

Sue_Buddy said...

I'm making pots of Old Grandma Soup (isn't that what Kate called them?).
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Sounds like something she'd say--soup made from old grandmas. I'm sure yours will be delicious PA Dutch mom.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Although she's been obviously nipped, tucked, pulled and stapled, she and tfw actually look the same age...which would be mid to late 40's

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LOL!! I read this as pulled and slapped! Gotta stop nipping at the rumspringa,

Call Me Crazy said...

Sounds like something she'd say--soup made from old grandmas. I'm sure yours will be delicious PA Dutch mom.
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Ha, ha. Sounds delicious. Is it a little blue-tinted and frothy on top?

redbirdsings said...

PA Dutch mom has much much more sense than TFW about cooking. Even a high percentage of the world's population has more cooking sense and cooking awareness! 15 cups of rumspringa, instead of 15 cups of spice! Sounds like your making a sangria instead of Old Grandma's Soup.

Math Girl said...

While googling the new KG "book" (27 success secrets, 50-some pages, darned expensive), I came across the following article:

http://ethicsalarms.com/2012/08/27/unethical-feature-top-10-people-who-dont-deserve-to-be-millionaires/

It is a critique of another article about 10 people who "don't deserve to be millionaires". The author disagrees with the original list in 9 cases out of 10, but agrees for exactly one person on the list - KG.

Mel said...

TFW deserves to be a millionaire because why??
She has 8 kids? What about the other divorced moms with 8 kids? Why don't they deserve to be millionaires?

FYI said...

That book about Kate is listed on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Kate-Gosselin-Success-Facts-Everything-ebook/dp/B00QE4HXEC

The "Look Inside The Book" just shows the chapters. The book just seems to be a rehash of articles about Kate and supposedly provides links to stories and interviews about Kate. It was published last August.

I think it should more appropriately be called "What I learned by Googling Kate Gosselin".

This is the description of the book:

The latest Kate Gosselin sensation. This book is your ultimate resource for Kate Gosselin. Here you will find the most up-to-date 27 Success Facts, Information, and much more.

In easy to read chapters, with extensive references and links to get you to know all there is to know about Kate Gosselin's Early life, Career and Personal life right away.

FYI said...

Guess Kate came back home yesterday after the TCA's.

Ryan W. Crane ‏@ryesingstar · 6h6 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 I was your FA from lax today and no chance to say hi! I'm a fan of your show and apprentice! Was nice to get a smile tho. :)

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 · 2h2 hours ago
@ryesingstar saw u..was pretty comatose (like every1 else) by the X we boarded... So, I'll say hi now..HI! Thanks4getting me home safely❤️

Blowing In The Wind said...

In easy to read chapters, with extensive references and links to get you to know all there is to know about Kate Gosselin's Early life, Career and Personal life right away.

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Easy to read chapters? So this was written with the sheeple in mind?

PA Dutch Mom said...

Sounds like something she'd say--soup made from old grandmas. I'm sure yours will be delicious PA Dutch mom.
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Ha, ha. Sounds delicious. Is it a little blue-tinted and frothy on top?

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I just throw in some Polident powder to make it frothy.

Rhymes with Witch said...

This is the description of the book:

The latest Kate Gosselin sensation. This book is your ultimate resource for Kate Gosselin. Here you will find the most up-to-date 27 Success Facts, Information, and much more. 55

Who on earth would buy such drivel?
I wonder if it is "unauthorized". Will she sue? That would be a hoot!

NJGal51 said...

Kate Gosselin. Yes, she’s a monster, and exploits her children. Her TV show should have been banned for engaging in child labor violations. Still…OK, no still. Kate Gosselin doesn’t deserve to be a millionaire. I’ll go with Bigler on this one.
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This is tH blurb on TFW from the article linked above. Agree with hi, 100%.

TLC stinks said...

Kate sees the money the Kardashians have pulled in. She envisions the same. That's why she wants the filming to continue as the kids grow up. I don't like the Kardashians but the Gosselins are not in their league.

TLC stinks said...

Notice in the tweet we said "we" to the flight attendant. I bet they were first class.

TLC stinks said...

I'm truly a Ca girl at❤️ RT @MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 Looks like ur having a gr8 X! How fun 2b a #CaliforniaGirl N the middle of winter..


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Yes, her dream is to leave PA and park herself in CA with her own reality show. Will Steve follow?

Formerly Duped said...

...and look what kind of people all the Kardashian/Jenner kids seem to be.

Anonymous said...

Ryan W. Crane ‏@ryesingstar · 6h6 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 I was your FA from lax today and no chance to say hi! I'm a fan of your show and apprentice! Was nice to get a smile tho. :)

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 · 2h2 hours ago
@ryesingstar saw u..was pretty comatose (like every1 else) by the X we boarded... So, I'll say hi now..HI! Thanks4getting me home safely❤️

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Don't tell me she's actually figured out that she needs to be nice to people? And to think, it only took her 10 years.

PA Dutch Mom, thanks for reminding me of rivel soup. We used to tell little kids that they were made out of the dust bunnies under the couch.

OT: When I got my boys neutered, they cried for at least 7 hours, even though the vets office said they had been given pain meds to get them through the night. At 3 in the morning, when I was losing my mind, I decided to crush some aspirin and feed it with peanut butter. They went to sleep so fast I thought I had killed them. Come morning, they were much improved. Formerly, I hope your guy doesn't suffer too much.

AuntieAnn, wear gloves next time.

PJ

fade2black said...

Somebody besides Kate making money from the Gosselin name? Ooh, can we sue?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Betcha she threw in that "we" to get people talking...ooh, does
she mean Steve, or the millionaire? I ain't takin' the bait!

Formerly, I hope your pup is on the road to recovery.

FYI said...

Actually, according to the FA, she got home this morning not this morning.

Ryan W. Crane ‏@ryesingstar · 35m35 minutes ago
@Sassccha @Kateplusmy8 our flight was delayed 3 hours from 11pm to 2am. Everyone was comatose. You would be too. Again. Douche.

Suze said...

This is the description of the book:

The latest Kate Gosselin sensation. This book is your ultimate resource for Kate Gosselin. Here you will find the most up-to-date 27 Success Facts, Information, and much more. 55

Who on earth would buy such drivel?
I wonder if it is "unauthorized". Will she sue? That would be a hoot!

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It's all of 52 pages long. lol

PatK said...

TLC stinks said... 62
Notice in the tweet we said "we" to the flight attendant. I bet they were first class.

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Considering the late hour they arrived back in PA, I think it's a safe bet that Steve spent the night at Kate's instead of heading right home to his WIFE in Maryland.

Math Girl said...

Mel said... 54
TFW deserves to be a millionaire because why??
She has 8 kids? What about the other divorced moms with 8 kids? Why don't they deserve to be millionaires?
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The original article named 10 people who (in it's opinion) didn't deserve to be millionaires. The second article thought 9 of them DID deserve to be millionaires. It agreed only for K: she does NOT deserve to be a millionaire.

Somewhere In Time said...

Ryan W. Crane ‏@ryesingstar · 6h6 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 I was your FA from lax today and no chance to say hi! I'm a fan of your show and apprentice! Was nice to get a smile tho. :)

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 · 2h2 hours ago
@ryesingstar saw u..was pretty comatose (like every1 else) by the X we boarded... So, I'll say hi now..HI! Thanks4getting me home safely❤️

Why are the non-fans ganging up on the FA? What did he do?

Geez...this is like an afternoon soap...

Jeremy said...

The media must buy their gossip "stories" by people who want them placed. The Jeff Prescott story came from nowhere, months after they allegedly met, and barely any proof that they even know each other.
Meanwhile, back in PA, Bill Hynes, a divorced male living pretty close to her, perhaps with kids in the same school, drives from PA to NY at least once to donate $50,000 to help Kate's team win, and not a peep about him or them from the gossip media.
Andy Cohen's made a comment in his book that ROL will print just about anything from any "source".

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Haha, the red eye back home. Poor thing.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Considering the late hour they arrived back in PA, I think it's a safe bet that Steve spent the night at Kate's instead of heading right home to his WIFE in Maryland.

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Unless they flew into BWI.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The cold burst from a few weeks ago is over and we are having beautiful winter weather, low 70's and sunny. These are those precious few perfect months where I often find myself saying "this is why I am here." I like the luxury of being able to do hiking, bike riding, walking and other outdoor activities in winter. But it doesn't sound like Kate enjoyed much of it. Sounds like she was sequestered in a hotel conference room the whole time. What's the fun of California if you can't enjoy it?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Admin (#74), what's the fun of California for TFW? Her kids
are 3,000 miles away.

TLC stinks said...

No doubt Steve spends the night, often, LOL.

People should Not pick on the FA. I just wonder if he assumed Steve was her husband ;)

PatK said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 75

Unless they flew into BWI.


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In that case, I would assume Gina opened up her home to Kate for the remainder of the night, so that Steve wouldn't be driving her back to PA in the wee hours. 'Cause there's no way in hell Kate drove herself.

capecodmama said...

NJGal...and anybody else who watches CA on a regular basis. Does Trump ever do The Apprentice anymore or is it now just Celebrity Apprentice?

I just baked several dozen of Giada's chocolate cookies with hazelnuts and chopped up heath bars. I shall be bringing them to the veranda for all to enjoy.

Admin...Congrats on your 1000th post. It's been a fabulous ride to come along with you and the ladies of the veranda. DVR'd and watched the first part of the New England trip. Have lots to say but am waiting for your hyserical recap.

capecodmama said...

Forgot to add that Season 2 of Broadchurch starts on Wednesday, Februay 4 on BBC America if anyone's interested.

Over In TFW's County said...


Sounds like she was sequestered in a hotel conference room the whole time. What's the fun of California if you can't enjoy it?

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I guess it depends with whom you are sequestered after conference hours!

Over In TFW's County said...

I think Sheep Denise just called Kate a witch. What a doofus.

Denise @Mydmaxx
Lol. Aren't we?!? @Kateplusmy8 http://t.co/FxNDm2RkMo

capecodmama said...

That should be Giada's chocolate chip cookies not chocolate cookies

Over In TFW's County said...

People should Not pick on the FA. I just wonder if he assumed Steve was her husband ;)

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Did he make a comment about TFM?

Sue_Buddy said...

When Kate tweets a celeb has Milo ever NOT butted in?

Sue_Buddy said...

Oops, seems I hit the submit button by mistake.

I can just picture Milo at the grocery store, starting up a convo with a total stranger and somehow managing to let the poor stranger know that just yesterday she was tweeting with Leeza Gibbons and Kate Gosselin and blah, blah, blah.

Over In TFW's County said...

Leeza Gibbons ‏@LeezaGibbons 2m2 minutes ago
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Just random!!

Leeza tweets Milo. Good lord. Here we go -- a new best friend for Gladys.

Sue, I bet that's exactly what she does. She thrives on it. But I would guess that her family is glad she gets out and away from them and talks an earful with someone other than them! The probably breathe a sign of relief when she leaves and then locks the door!.

Over In TFW's County said...

With the exception of a tweet yesterday (about being a CA girl at heart), Kate hasn't tweeted Milo since January 9 (price of gas), so I guess Milo is going to get to Kate through Leeza!

I love Sheeple Psych 101!

Wowser said...

How can TFW say she's a CA girl at heart when she's never been there til TLC footed the bill and flew her there...what a tool. The only part of TFW that can even connect to any part of California, is her plastic face and the bill to pay for it. Everything else is about as connected as the ass and the elbow.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Tee hee well her experience at that swank hotel might have been quite nice if Steve was there. My comment about her not being able to enjoy CA was in response to her silly "CA girl at heart" comment. California girl? You did nothing that people traditionally do in CA in the winter. You were in a conference room. What makes you think you're a CA girl? Do you surf, swim, skateboard, hike, cycle, rock climb, eat vegan? You're certainly not laid back as we are here. I'm not understanding that silliness.

Serendipity said...

Milo thinks Kate's attire is sexy. I am still not convinced that Gladys is a woman, or if it is, she's still in the closet..not quite out, but getting there.

Love the choice of dresses U have been wearing lately! Sexy, attractive & yet appropriate 4a Mom of 8! http://dailym.ai/1uaJrDX @kateplusmy8

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Serendipity said... 92
Milo thinks Kate's attire is sexy. I am still not convinced that Gladys is a woman, or if it is, she's still in the closet..not quite out, but getting there

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And she or he has been telling Kate when to go to bed. I don't know what "it" is, but it's all very creepy. Gladys might not be the dumbest of the remaining sheeple, but I think she's among the most scary.

Turtle Logic said...

Greetings, ladies! I rarely post, but I do read every day. I thought I would stop by the veranda with a snack; each person gets 3 crackers with cheese and 4 grapes all neatly wrapped in foil and served on a prison tray,and Juicy Juice as long as you keep the label showing to the camera. Later we'll decorate cupcakes, but if you drop one sprinkle on the floor you are DONE. Oh, but you don't get to eat them. It's all one big tease. Is it time for the 4-hour naps yet? Organic milk is on sale, so I had better get going to buy it all up and get extra rain checks before anyone else does, because I'm the sole supporter of 8 kids.

;)

prairiemary said...

That comment about the dresses is downright creepy. Really Milo. You are totally nuts.

AuntieAnn said...

Well I hate to say it but Kate's dress looks better than Brandi's in these photos. Brandi's is hideous. And her legs are nothing to write home about either.

http://dailym.ai/1uaJrDX

localyocul said...

Sue_Buddy said... 86
When Kate tweets a celeb has Milo ever NOT butted in?

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Anyone else notice that Deeana hasn't tweeted TFW at all about CA?

NJGal51 said...

capecodmama - I honestly can't remember the last time that they did just a regular Apprentice. I'm guessing that it's all about the celebrities because people want to see them at their worst.

A far as the FA is concerned, he tweeted TFW and she tweeted him back. I guess a couple of non fans went after him and he called someone a douche. Someone took umbrage at the comment and is trying to track down which airline he works for. I think he's deleted his tweets.

NJGal51 said...

@Kateplusmy8: Collin&I are almost done building this wagon.
Just a typical 'exciting' Saturday pm here! #HandyMom #NeedHandyMan pic.twitter.com/Av3F6JCn2k
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If Collin is building the wagon with her why does she #needhandyman? I've got what looks to be the same wagon and it came pretty much assembled with just a few things that we had to attach.

Anonymous said...

Poor Shmoops. Got booked on the redeye back home as soon as the press conference was over. a delayed redeye too.
No weekend playcay on the.network dime. Yep, she's what we call a CA girl at heart. No, not really.

Gladys has really lost it - 'sexy, attractive yet appropriate'. Stylist to the stars, she has really missed her calling.

OrangeCrusher

getofftwitter said...

So Kate bought a yard wagon, and Colin help put it together. Big whoop! From the way she tweeted this: just a typical 'exciting' saturday pm here. this building a wagon was about as exciting as watching it snow. You can heard the boredom in her words. Kate wishes she were back in CA, partying it up, with purseboy. After all she did say in CA interview, she would rather be doing CA than be with her kids. Shame on you Kate, Jon & you brought them into this world they are your responsibility, not mine or anyone elses. Shame on you for missing an important school function. Damn your so-call, in your mind career.

Anonymous said...

capecodmama said... 81
Forgot to add that Season 2 of Broadchurch starts on Wednesday, Februay 4 on BBC America if anyone's interested.

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For once, us Canucks get something before you. Broadchurch 2 started on Showcase last Sunday and it's as compelling as the first one. All the same cast as far as I can tell.

PJ

Anonymous said...

After all these years. I finally figured who Kate reminds me of. A snappiing turtle! Same neck, bite and posture.

Lista

roxyhelen said...

I am sorry if you already answered this question admin, I had a really tough exam and couldn't read through the comments but are you going to recap the Kate+8 episodes?

fidosmommy said...

I have admired Leeza Gibbons since I first watched her talk show. She
is one host I never tired of.

I wonder who coached her to do the cartoonish knee bent-pointed toe stance for publicity shots. It's more than a model pose, it's lower body
Ms. Universe-esque.

Tucker's Mom said...

Sue_Buddy said... 43
I appreciate the kind comments and warm welcome to this beautiful veranda from such perceptive and humorous ladies.

Formerly Duped, I'm like you. When my dog isn't well, I'm beside myself with worry. Last year my guy got sick and I was so stressed that I drove through a stop sign, right in front of a police officer--didn't even see him. Then to make matters worse I burst out sobbing. Ugh. I guess I caught him off-guard, he asked me if I was going to take my "doggie" to the vet and said he understood, he had dogs, too. He wrote me a warning instead of giving me a ticket. Oh, and my "doggie," the officer actually said that, recovered. I hope your dear pup has a speedy recovery.

And to the person who mentioned Paws, do they stay on through walks and lickings?
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Hey Sue!! Great to "see" you here. We've had beloved posters popping back up on the veranda and its been wonderful!
Yes, Pawz can take a licking. They come in packs of 6 or 8, and when they get a hole, you just throw it away.
I wound up using them on my Bichon beyond his disc recovery-when he got up there in age, it was hard for his to keep his footing on our wood floors. So, we put Pawz on him and he was able to wander around and around!
The look is hysterical, btw ;-)

Tucker's Mom said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 44
To me she sounds JUST like my friends from Philly. King of Prussia area.

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Hmmm...

I went to school in that area, and she doesn't sound like any of my friends there. Thank goodness!
January 17, 2015 at 11:14 AM
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Kate, more than Jon, has the distinct long "i" sound, as in like and right. In fact, the very reason that I started to watch them is because I took particular interest when I realized that they were from the Philly area (which I heard immediately, so I Googled them).

Tucker's Mom said...

PatK said... 47
Kate has that annoying "up talk" (I think it's called), where she sometimes says a word with a question mark inflection. It's to make her sound cool and fit in with teens.
*****
Who, Kate? Really? Like when she talks? She sounds like she's asking a question? Like, all the time?

Martha said...

So, was Steve seen with her in California? I can't imagine her making it there on her own, but was there a sighting?
She really is soulless.

Tucker's Mom said...

I just baked several dozen of Giada's chocolate cookies with hazelnuts and chopped up heath bars. I shall be bringing them to the veranda for all to enjoy.
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I made meatballs yesterday and while we enjoyed them with spaghetti, today I'm making Grandma Pizza and using them to top!
Football and pizza- good Sunday (raining, so we're hibernating and eating).

Tucker's Mom said...

capecodmama said... 81
Forgot to add that Season 2 of Broadchurch starts on Wednesday, Februay 4 on BBC America if anyone's interested.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you for the heads up! While the U.S. version was quite good, the British version was better.

Also..The Fall on Netflix and The Americans!

If you're a David Tennant fan, check out The Escape Artist-really tight thriller.
I also want to check him out in Dr. Who.

Anonymous said...

Thinking about the G kids and what they've seen in life re relationships. All good people go away and their mother is the only constant. Think that's not going to cause problems down the road? Their level of vulnerability must be through the roof.

PJ

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Nice to see you on the veranda, Turtle Logic! Alas, I have spilled
some of my Juicy Juice, so I'm afraid I'm "ruined."

So TFW wanted to make sure we knew her kids were with
her this weekend. And that she did something with one of
her boys, so, see, she does like them! But of course it was
chore-related. #Dolt

Vanessa said...

Anyone else notice that Deeana hasn't tweeted TFW at all about CA?
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I posted this awhile ago, I think those 2 had a falling out, meaning Deeana saw the light.

Vanessa said...

Turtle Logic said... 94
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very funny :)

FlimsyFlamsy said...

PJ (#112), I agree about the issues I fear the G kids may face.
Also that their "value" in this one constant relationship with their
mother seems to be in direct proportion with what they can do
for her. As always, I'm basing my opinion on myriad examples
from the show, and from TFW's own tweets. As the kids grow
and start forming adult relationships, that may attract people
who want to take advantage of that eagerness to please.

Formerly Duped, sending you positive thoughts this morning.
Hope you've gotten a good report about your dog.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 91
Tee hee well her experience at that swank hotel might have been quite nice if Steve was there. My comment about her not being able to enjoy CA was in response to her silly "CA girl at heart" comment. California girl?
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This epitomizes Kate's complete lack of gratitude. The grass is always greener somewhere else, from where she lives, to the family she's blessed to have.
Kate's little corner of PA is beautiful, absolutely beautiful. Bucolic hills, green grass for grazing livestock, charming barns with hex signs on them, small, friendly towns... yeah, I miss PA ;-)

NJGal51 said...

"But it's really difficult when one parent is in the sabotaging mode" http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kate-gosselin-has-no-relationship-with-jon-gosselin-no-time-to-date-2015181#ixzz3PBDLNMKN
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Well she's at it again.

Tucker's Mom said...

Turtle Logic said... 94
Greetings, ladies! I rarely post, but I do read every day. I thought I would stop by the veranda with a snack; each person gets 3 crackers with cheese and 4 grapes all neatly wrapped in foil and served on a prison tray,and Juicy Juice as long as you keep the label showing to the camera.
******
Great to see you. This weekend has really been a coming out of sorts!
So wonderful to have you all stepping back onto the veranda!
So, now that you've filled my left cavity ;-), I made huevos rancheros for breakfast (leftover flap steak for dinner->turned fajitas with refried beans->turned huevos rancheros with delish PA eggs).
I'm serving it with ciabatta toast and the dogs are LOVING little nibbles!

Formerly Duped, I hope your pup is feeling better today.

Vanessa said...

An article about Jon took a little longer than we predicted

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kate-gosselin-has-no-relationship-with-jon-gosselin-no-time-to-date-2015181

Vanessa said...

True to form you effing bitch


"I don't have [a relationship with Jon anymore]," she admitted of her ex-husband. "I give the kids… some of the kids visit and some don't and I keep the peace. That's what I've always done. It's best for the kids."
PHOTOS: Kate Gosselin's Life After Reality TV
"I wish that things were better for the kids," she added of her dynamic with Jon. "It's very clear by now that I'm just trying to preserve what relationship he has with them. I do think it's best for them, but, you know, divorce is hard, period. But it's really difficult when one parent is in the sabotaging mode. That's been difficult."
Kate split from Jon, now 37, in 2009 after the two stars had welcomed eight children together. The couple's messy divorce was finalized in December 2009 and Kate was given custody of Cara, Madelyn, Alexis, Hannah, Aaden, Collin, Leah, and Joel.
"There are days when I say, 'I'm quitting and not coming back,'" she said of parenting eight children. "I think every mom feels that way."


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Vanessa said...

Kate may not have her love life as a priority, but she said that her children, who still see and speak to their dad from time to time, are starting to ask questions.

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"They are [asking] more and more," she said of her expansive brood. "There's kind of a man presence definitely missing this many years later. But I'm never gonna be that mom that is going to make the mistake of bringing anybody home. I don't have a lot of time to be out there searching for someone, so I want to do it right and I would love for them to have that male role model. It is lacking."

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foxy said...

I wonder if Kate thinks she could turn these kids into robots like another large family on TLC has done to their kids. She is in for a very rude awakening. The older girls will be out of high school in 4 1/2 years and I doubt she will have control over them. The younger ones will be teens in 3 years or so and 2 of them will really give her a run for her money.

Tucker's Mom said...

@Kateplusmy8: Collin&I are almost done building this wagon.
Just a typical 'exciting' Saturday pm here! #HandyMom #NeedHandyMan pic.twitter.com/Av3F6JCn2k

*******
Why the hell wouldn't Steve help put it together? Or get farmer Henry. But, for the love of everything holy, stop acting like you need a man!
Lemme tell ya'll something, when I was divorced, I did everything, from fixing toilets to mowing the lawn to shoveling the snow.
Get over yourself, you pathetic 40-year old woman!

Tucker's Mom said...

Anyone else notice that Deeana hasn't tweeted TFW at all about CA?
******
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Deeana doesn't know how to help Kate anymore, but perhaps she's just wised up about Tweeting Kate, which will always bring blowback.

Wowser said...

TFW is really a piece of "holy crap" to use her own words....she wants people to believe the kids don't have a relationship with Jon...pictures of them together prove differently. As far as "Jon sabotaging" ....she is referring to his continual resistance to the kids filming....which is HER only plan/option so of course, Jon is sabotaging her plan to use her money makers to provide her all her plastic surgery and trips to rub elbows with the Rich and famous. She is such a POS. The only one sabotaging anything/everything is HER. I feel so badly for those kids!! Why doesn't ANYONE confront her....how in the hell does she always have an invisible shield around her from the tough questions being thrown her way!?? SMH

Tucker's Mom said...

http://dailym.ai/1uaJrDX
*********
Brandi's dress? A widow in a porn flick.
Seriously.

Dmasy said...

Turtle Logic, thank you for my snack. I was hungry because Auntie "borrowed" the goodies I brought. May I have a few more grapes, please?

Formerly Duped said...

Dog update:

Thanks for all the positive messages and ideas. Morning report from neurologist- same, no movement but deep pain sensation still present.Still very anxious. Trouble with oral meds- codeine found hanging in her beard (bad nursing care!) so Fentanyl patch being used plus sedative.Dr suggested we go with the playpen/gate idea ( thanks Tucker) instead of crate at home. We have to go in to learn bladder expression on dogs- she will be prone to urinary retention- and still be paralyzed with no bowel or bladder control for weeks to?? Will hate to go in, torture her with bladder fumbling and leave her- probably next Tuesday, possibly home Thursday.

Jane said...

IIRC, there was something written awhile back about Deanna having another private account. Maybe Instagram? Because of the business she's in, it does seem important that she be able to connect through social media.

So nice to see names from the past !

Localyocul said...

Wow what a witch! I've never wanted to run away and if I did I would make sure my kid much less the whole world never knew that. It occurs to me that she is grifting for a man. She thins if she mentions it enough a ma will fall from the sky like products do when she mentions them

redbirdsings said...

Vanessa said...120

But, she never fails to do what we predict. I can't believe she said that she was behind the 8 ball, talking about her kids. She has no shame!

Urban dictionary says that behind the 8 ball means, In a bad situation, a losing position. She has the gall and nerve to say that!

She has a beautiful home, beautiful kids, a beautiful dog, food, cars, money, central heat and air, enough clothes and shoes to last her till doomsday and having relations and has been for the last 6 years with her married, family man, FM! If she needs anything, she can just jump in a vehicle of her choice and run into town and get it, pay for it and not worry about it. How is this being behind the 8 ball?

I would really like to know that.

redbirdsings said...

Oh, horrible, horrible story!

An Arizona woman died Friday, just hours after giving birth to quadruplets at a Phoenix hospital, a family friend confirmed. The 36-year-old woman, Erica Morales, delivered the three girls and one boy via C-section at Banner Good Samaritan Medical Center early Friday, and never regain consciousness. She didn't even get to hold any of her babies!

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/01/arizona_woman_dies_after_givin.html

I wonder what TFW thinks about this?

Tucker's Mom said...

Anonymous said... 103
After all these years. I finally figured who Kate reminds me of. A snappiing turtle! Same neck, bite and posture.

Lista
*****
I think the recent work she's had done makes her look like a resident of WhoVille.

JoyinVirginia said...

I made some rice krispie treats and found a couple boxes of Sees Chocolate from Christmas, poss them around the veranda. And that rumspringa is getting low, have some sangria and i have a bottle of plum wine too!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

But I'm never gonna be that mom that is going to make the mistake of bringing anybody home.

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What does she mean, many women have found partners after a divorce and it's been a very good thing for the family to have a stepdad in the children's lives. It was no "mistake" for these mothers. Kind of an insulting comment, as if the only correct path for your children after a divorce is total celibacy.

She is a total nutcase. On one hand she says she just tries to keep the peace with Jon and then in the very next breath blurts out that he is in sabotaging mode? How is that keeping the peace? Why is it necessary to share that with the public but to make him look bad?

"Sabotaging mode" HOW? How dare a father not want his children to be exploiting for yet another 10 years. How dare he.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

"It's very clear by now that I'm just trying to preserve what relationship he has with them


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They don't need your "help" to preserve whatever. Butt the f out, it's none of your business you crazy witch. Gosh, she is the BIGGEST narcissist. She is actually giving herself credit for their relationship with Jon. Unbelievable.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


"There are days when I say, 'I'm quitting and not coming back,'" she said of parenting eight children. "I think every mom feels that way."

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Gaa. Please do NOT speak for all moms or imply that all moms have thought they want to quit and LEAVE their children for good. Excuse me, no. If that's how you feel, time to get some therapy.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I am sorry if you already answered this question admin, I had a really tough exam and couldn't read through the comments but are you going to recap the Kate+8 episodes?


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Yes.

They're just not as fun to recap as CA so I've been putting off my homework. :)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

How tragic about the mom of quadruplets. Sounds like she may have had preclampsia, which is one of the few things left that is still extremely dangerous in pregnancy.

capecodmama said...

So TCFW justs "keeps the peace". I know she's talking about the kids relationship with Jon but from what we've seen on tv, her relationship with Mady sure as hell aint peaceful. And there are days when she wants to "quit and not come back". She ought to try that sometime. I think there are eight kids who could benefit from it. If she thinks life at the compound is hard now, wait until she has six more teenages screaming and not respecting her.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It seems to me she is of the mindset that anyone who happens to have a different OPINION about how these children should be raised is "sabotaging."

After all this time, she really can't grasp why some people disagree with what she's done to them. She takes it personal, like it's about something against her or trying to ruin HER life as opposed to being about what is in the children's best interest.

As the father of these children he has every right to disagree with her parenting choices, and every right to try to forge a different path for his children if he would like to do so. The includes calling and visiting his children per his schedule even if they are filming, that includes showing up to filming in public places like churches if he darn well wants to, and that includes aligning himself with politicians trying to better protect children if he darn well wants to.

If Kate sees that as "sabotaging" so be it.

redbirdsings said...

Wow, Vanessa, I didn't see that quote TFW said in that article!

"There are days when I say, 'I'm quitting and not coming back,'" she said of parenting eight children. "I think every mom feels that way."

What is wrong with her? I think she just messed herself up. Sounds like a declaration. When you say a declaration, eventually, it comes to pass. Her mouth will do her in one day, and I hate it for the kids, because I know they do love her to some extent.

It is, one week away and one week home works best for my family, I'm quitting (the kids) and not coming back. Misses important meeting for her older daughters because she wanted to hob nob with stars.

Does she really hate her kids that bad? She should be on her hands and knees, squalling her eyes out begging all 8 of those kids forgiveness for what she has put them through and done to them since they were born. She needs a come to Jesus meeting with them, sincerely apologize and ask each of them for forgiveness to start the healing process of the damage she has done to each one of those kids!

Vanessa said...

But I'm never gonna be that mom that is going to make the mistake of bringing anybody home.

****

What about not being that alienating,
abusive, lazy, greedy, gaslighting, selfish, obnoxious, bullying, using, ungrateful, trashy, dirty, see u next tuesday, absolute BITCH mother? Eh??
Why don't you worry about something more pertinent than gettingna man you stinking piece of S$@*t!!

redbirdsings said...


@xxxxxxx
Jan 16
DJ Jon Gosselin; 9:30 p.m. Jan. 15 at Blind Hartman's Berks County PA.
Guess Jon has a gig.

I checked and the transition meeting was Friday morning at 8:00 am. His job was at 9:30 the night before. I hope he was able to make it to the school for Mady and Cara.

Circling the drain said...

To anyone who thinks that filming the kids is a good way to support them, I say this: filming has enabled their MENTALLY ILL, alcoholic (I'm willing to bet money on this), sadistic, narcissistic, selfish, hurtful, ignorant mother to continue abusing them. If the bitch was humbled enough to work and coparent in order to support herself and the kids, believe me, it would mitigate a lot of the emotional abuse Kate doles out. TLC started this mess. Now they're enabling the continued abuse of these kids. The kids KNOW they're being filmed for people to laugh at and criticize. Hannah shushing Leah as she fought Alexis for the top bunk and then closing the door says it all. They get it. As much as Kate has imprisoned and isolated them, somehow (roll eyes), they have figured out that filming has not shown them or their psycho mom in a positive light. I wonder if dumpy, frumpy Katie Krieder aka Karen Kaufman thought her diabolical plan through as she ordered the fertility meds from Canada. And why does the filming continue after the fact that she actually planned her own misery was exposed? Ugh

chefsummer #Leh said...

Why is it necessary to share that with the public
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She wants to make her look good.

Kate is such a piece of s**h and she doesn't realize talking bad about another parent is a horrible idea.

But the public has seen/saw has the kids love Jon.

We never see or saw how much they love mommy dearest.

chefsummer #Leh said...

This is way I can never feel any form of sympathy for Kate.

She is always trash Jon and trash innocent people she doesn't take up for her kids and she blames other for her bitchy behavior.

I hate to say it but God bless the day the kids & Jon even Steve finally get rid of her they will be better off w/o her wickedness.

chefsummer #Leh said...

"There are days when I say, 'I'm quitting and not coming back,'" she said of parenting eight children. "I think every mom feels that way."
____

Only parents who don't truly love their children feel that way.

Anonymous said...

Abysmally behind posts, but I have an excuse.

My 1 (one dd)and I went shopping for her own laptop yesterday. I suggested an easy to carry tablet. she opted for full-out 17 inch screen. She was payin, so I said ok


OyeVaye me myself and I

Not 24 hrs later she has complaints comp is not fast enough and they used our last name while addressing her complaints

I have failed as a mother when my own dd does not understand Ms. ***is respect.

I expect a keg of rumspringa on my little corner of the veranda...STAT

dwindle, so cool you dropped by,

franky

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

If you made a comment like that with Children's Services around they would flag you as depressed possible mental and emotional problems. A judge would be very concerned.

It's not a normal comment and NO Kate not all moms, or parents, feel that way.

Tucker's Mom said...

We have to go in to learn bladder expression on dogs- she will be prone to urinary retention- and still be paralyzed with no bowel or bladder control for weeks to?? Will hate to go in, torture her with bladder fumbling and leave her- probably next Tuesday, possibly home Thursday.
*******
Thank you so, so much for the update-have been praying and thinking about you!
Go in with courage and conviction. You can do this! Learn the procedure.
See one.
Do one.
Teach one.
Right!??!!
You can do this.
If and when your little girl can eat, give her whatever treat she absolutely loves. Do this after you express her bladder. It will become something she doesn't fear and maybe even looks forward to.
Our beloved old Bichon, who had that surgery, eventually had kidney failure. We were able to keep his life full, and longer, by administering fluids a couple times a week.
The vet tech was going to show me how to insert the needle into his neck, and I said, "let me do it", so I could get over the hump and just jump right in like I knew what I was doing!
I did it. It was always a bit tough, but we (DH and I) did it. Easy, peasy. In and out. And our beloved Bichon ate wonderful treats as a reward.
You can do this!

PS... thank you, Admin and staff, for allowing us to share and help!

Anonymous said...

Dangnabbit..about wanting to leave my kid...guilty

I did hope for an hour of so reprieve when she had colic...of course I was alone and tried to sit on balcony after making sure she was ok, my 2 dogs kept watch, and trust me, they were incredible

dd is 17 almost 18 and I mourn the days all I had to do was make sure she was comfortable

It gets mre challenging every year, but every year is better

franky

Rhymes with Witch said...

An article about Jon took a little longer than we predicted. 120

Note though, it's not some rag mag randomly posting a negative story about Jon. It' Katie telling the world how awful he is. BITCH.

Anonymous said...

WOW! I just read the US article. Some very disturbing quotes from TFW which indicate very serious parent alienation going on. I believe "professionals" would finally say she has crossed the line.

bm

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

An hour or so reprieve is different franky. It's normal for everyone to want a break.

Kate said every mother at time she wishes she could leave her kid FOR GOOD, quit and "never come back." Huge difference.

I noticed another comment in that article about how the house is loud and stressful because she has eight kids. It need not be that way. She has allowed a loud and stressful house. Eight kids are entirely irrelevant. Plenty of large groups of children, much larger than eight, are capable of living their lives talking at a normal volume and not creating a bunch of stress.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

A huge red flag for a parental alienator is that they can talk at length about how terrible their ex is, but never provide a specific example of it. (That's because there are none)

Have you notice she's never provided any credible specific evidence to back up all her claims? Jon is a poor role model, Jon sabotages her, she has to encourage what's left of the relationship, etc. But not one single specific example of what the hell she is even talking about. HOW does he sabotage her? HOW is he a bad role model? When, what, how?

Parental alienation through the roof.

In contrast, although Jon has spoken poorly of her before, he has been very specific about exactly what his issues are. For instance, the children having difficulty socializing. Neither should talk badly about the other but the few times he has what he says makes sense. She speaks out of crazed mental illness and parental alienation and makes little sense. He speaks out of frustration and genuine concern and his complaints are specific and rational.

Rhymes with Witch said...

She has allowed a loud and stressful house. 154

I'll take it a step further and say she created takes loud and stressful house.

Formerly Duped said...

'Some" of the kids visit Jon? Wonder how many? I thought all of them were there at least on Xmas Eve? I guess not the twins and Collin.Idk. Sad.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Note though, it's not some rag mag randomly posting a negative story about Jon. It' Katie telling the world how awful he is. BITCH.


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My guess is she's been trying to pitch this story the past couple weeks as from a "source." When nobody was interested after two long weeks she finally bit the bullet and had to just do it herself.

I've also noticed lately she's been much more willing to give comments to some of the lowest of the tabloid trash. You know the same tabloids she's been bellyaching about for years. All of a sudden they are her go to stop to give her public address? Why, because People had no room for them this time around? What a hypocrite. The trash is her.

localyocul said...

I would love to know the story behind this! The woman has a letter begging for $ from utilities from J and K! Church? Work (she used to be a nurse according to her bio)?

D.E.F. @DonnaFo1982 · 2h 2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 @nochanceofrain maybe you should pay everyone back pic.twitter.com/h0z8OVeBdg

Truther ‏@nochanceofrain 2h2 hours ago
@DonnaFo1982 @Kateplusmy8 hhhmm asking /begging 4 funds. Has she paid back the state of PA. Pathetic.Typed up nice like her journal of ABUSE

D.E.F. ‏@DonnaFo1982 2h2 hours ago
@Kateplusmy8 @nochanceofrain not a dime . #iwantmymoneyback

A Mom said...

Just read Kate's tweet about Collin & her fixing a wagon, but Remembered in a scene from "Kate plus 8" where kids painting walls Collin painted his name on wall..........the weird thing he used 1 L and Kate used 2 L's ..............maybe hopefully Colin or Collin is trying to find his own way! One can wish or pray.

localyocul said...

"but, you know, divorce is hard, period"

WHOSE FAULT IS THAT? Who filed? YOU! It makes me think she thought purseboy was going to leave his wife for her.

"While she is bearing the heavy load of being a single parent"

WHOSE FAULT IS THAT? (SEE ABOVE)

Our obvious issue [is] we're a family people have heard of. It's that publicity piece

WHOSE FAULT IS THAT?

"it's really loud and stressful in my house"

WHOSE FAULT IS THAT? I am one of five kids. I don't recal lit being all that chaotic..it was the 80s and each month my mom would make a huge posterboard calendar with all our activities. We weren't allowed to yell and scream. Sure we fought, but mostly when my parents weren't around. We mostly had a happy, though not rich, childhood.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Jon himself said he took ALL eight over Christmas. Jon was spotted by numerous witnesses at the garage sale picking up ALL eight.

She is harkening back to her glory days when she was somehow able to convince Collin and maybe the twins not to go. Apparently those days are over, either because Jon decided to enforce his order or the children decided to go, but she can't accept that.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


WHOSE FAULT IS THAT? I am one of five kids. I don't recal lit being all that chaotic..it was the 80s and each month my mom would make a huge posterboard calendar with all our activities. We weren't allowed to yell and scream. Sure we fought, but mostly when my parents weren't around. We mostly had a happy, though not rich, childhood.



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Yep. My immediate family isn't huge but we do lots of family reunions and since a lot of people are out of state people will stay for weeks at a time at the family homestead. On any given summer there are eight to ten and sometimes more cousins under 10 all in the same house for at least a week. It is NOT like that. She is using these kids as an EXCUSE for being so darn lazy and allowing (or perhaps encouraging as suggested) chaos.

chefsummer #Leh said...

A huge red flag for a parental alienator is that they can talk at length about how terrible their ex is, but never provide a specific example of it. (That's because there are none)
____

But we have video and photos of the kids laughing and smiling while looking happy with Jon.

Where is this when it comes to Kate? Hell the twins all but refused to talk bad about Jon on TV.

If they really hated him as Kate would like us to think the twins would have said it.

The only thing we hear from the twins is how annoying and bossy Kate is and we see their bad behavior towards her not Jon.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I just read these comments from TFW and am sickened by them.
I know there are several posters here who have, tragically, lost
children. And on their behalf, I am disgusted by this horrible
woman's choice of words. As I've said before, it's one thing to
express your frustration over Mojitos with your friends after a
tough week, but to share with the effing planet that there are
DAYS -- plural (not "day" or "moments") -- when you say "I'm
quitting and not coming back?" Add this to her statement
that finding out she was pregnant with the tups was the worst
day of her life, and that if she had it to do all over again she
wouldn't, and I think she should forget college funds and start
therapy funds for her children.

And let's say things are utterly horrible, awful, and contentious
between Jon and her. Why does she just accept it? Why not
try to make things better? You say it impacts your kids, then
do something about it. Sorry for rambling, but I feel so angry
about this. What a petty, short-sighted, awful mother she is.

localyocul said...

She sounds EXACTLY like my ex's wife who tried to alienate my kid from me, and is now alienating her kids from their grandfather because he dared to say no to her. And the man is realizing that her ex is not the deadbeat she has made him out to be, he is hearing the truth from the ex about how she kept the kids from him and the games she has played. My ex's wife's father is now paying for HER ex to get better visitation rights.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Jon was right about one thing Kate is an a$$-hole and just proved it to be true.

Vanessa said...

Seriously, why WHY, is she permitted to speak out like this? Is this not slander?
And good point about her not having anything concrete to give an example. This is the gaslighting going on. If this is how ahe speaks of him when being quoted imagine IMAGINE what she is saying to those kids in private. It's subtle and vague but she is slowly manupulating their feelings towards their father.

localyocul said...

Anonymous said... 153
Dangnabbit..about wanting to leave my kid...guilty

I did hope for an hour of so reprieve when she had colic...of course I was alone and tried to sit on balcony after making sure she was ok, my 2 dogs kept watch, and trust me, they were incredible

dd is 17 almost 18 and I mourn the days all I had to do was make sure she was comfortable

It gets mre challenging every year, but every year is better

franky

)))

Franky, my kid had colic too and is now about the same age. Would cry from 5 in the evening til 3 in the morning nonstop every day. No exaggeration. Nothing calmed her. I would have to leave her in the middle of the bed and just go in another room for a few minutes. I would pray for this phase to end. That's not the same thing. Remember in Alaska, she told the kids goodbye, they were no longer a Gosselin? They looked terrified! I bet she threatens it left and right.

Also, I wonder what is going to happen in the next episode that she is doing damage control for? The yard sale? Maybe they do show him picking them up?

Anonymous said...

I can only hope that there is a special place in hell for the parental alienator that is TFW. Of all the awful things she so coyly does, this 'sabotage' garbage is right up there with the worst. The 8 days of Xmas while she was off getting nipped and tucked? Hmm, guess that did not happen. The only saboteur in that family is TFW which makes anything she says simply laughable. Go crawl back under your rock you snake.

OrangeCrusher

Mel said...

I don't understand her chaotic household. Lots of families have 8 kids.
She acts like she's the only person in the whole world to have 8 kids.

And no, most moms don't wish they could run away and never come back. Only the mentally ill ones.

My family was the smallest at 5 kids, my cousins' families were 9 kids or more. There was none of the fighting and screaming like that. Mostly because we were raised to treat each other, AND our parents respectfully. And our parents treated us respectfully.

There was some of the typical fighting one might expect among siblings. But not much, and certainly not physical, and not in front of our parents. Mostly it was one-liners. Which we still do to this day, and think we're hysterically funny. Our spouses not so much; they don't get it.

I think the reason we didn't have much fighting was that overall we had a contented life. Not rich, but certainly happy. Our parents were contented people, and they taught us that skill. They taught us to enjoy the moment, not all moments are good, some are hard, but enjoy the good ones you do get.

I don't see TFW ever promoting being happy. It's always bitch, bitch, bitch with her. Always something negative to say.

Here she is, in Calif, away from her children just like she wants, being pampered with hair, make-up, limo, etc. and what's the look on her face in those group shots? Sour puss. Again.

Mel said...

What would have been wrong with saying, Jon sees the kids as much as he can. It's hard with all of our schedules, but the kids enjoy the time they get with him. Sometimes they all go, sometimes in small groups, sometimes just one of them. It's good.
He had them all for several days at Christmas, and that was nice for them. And him.
He also had them when I was filming CA, and that was nice. It was such a relief to know that they were with family while I was gone. Even though I missed them terribly, and couldn't wait to get back home to them. Like any mom would.

I should be her PR person.

Tucker's Mom said...

I hate to say it but God bless the day the kids & Jon even Steve finally get rid of her they will be better off w/o her wickedness.
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I know that Admin has a "dotted line" to Jon, and I don't mean to poke him to respond to this bile, but... this has been a despicable diatribe that Kate is on.
I don't believe Jon doesn't love his children. I just don't.
Please, God, deliver these kids from this hatred.

Vanessa said...


Where is this when it comes to Kate? Hell the twins all but refused to talk bad about Jon on TV.

If they really hated him as Kate would like us to think the twins would have said it.

The only thing we hear from the twins is how annoying and bossy Kate is and we see their bad behavior towards her not Jon.

January 18, 2015 at 8:51 AM

Excellent point!
She got bashed mercilessly after the Today show, now she's being primped and cajoled to say what she wanted the twins to say about their father?yeah just keep speaking for those kids you Lucifer, hope the same rags get in touch with them when they'te of age.

Dmasy said...

Is one of seven children. Five girls and two boys. We squabbled, but were not allowed to be physical. From the earliest ages we bonded and cared for each other. We buffered each other from the unpredictability of our mother. As adults, we are still best friends.

Kate is tearing her family apart and the effect will last for a lifetime.

Vanessa said...

And no, most moms don't wish they could run away and never come back. Only the mentally ill ones.

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I'm sure this is the exact reason some mothers kill their children. NOT SAYING SHE WOULD, but what other reason can a mother use to justify murdering their child??
Casey Anthony? Diane Downs?Susan Smith??

Blowing In The Wind said...

"There are days when I say, 'I'm quitting and not coming back,'" she said of parenting eight children. "I think every mom feels that way."

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I have never thought that. Never. She doesn't think before she speaks! She claims she's "lonely." One day, and it's going to happen before she knows it, those eight kids are going to be gone, and she will be sitting home alone, day after day, night after night, eating alone, watching her old shows alone, and then she's really going to know what it's like to be lonely.

These times with her children are ones that she's never going to get back. For most parents, you cherish these times, knowing that it's not going to last forever. Many parents would give anything in the world to have that time back, even if only for a day...when everyone was all together, happy and healthy, and the kids were young. Cooking meals for them, going on vacations, planning birthday parties and Halloween costumes, going on school field trips and Christmas pageants, and yes, even changing diapers and the quiet moments of rocking babies after midnight feedings, as well as the toddler years -- most parents with grown children wish they could bring all of this back. It's the best time of their lives.

Not Kate, though. She sees these kids as nothing more than an annoyance, a necessary annoyance, however, because she's nothing without them. She's going to have a rude awakening one day and it will sneak up on her before she knows it.

That said, I wonder if she ever will really miss them, or if she will celebrate that time in the future when all of them are gone for good and she's an empty nester.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Kate is tearing her family apart and the effect will last for a lifetime.
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Just as long as she get in mug on Tv or an interview I don't think she cares.

Mel said...

What TFW doesn't realize is that a show about her and Jon co-parenting is something that could be long-term. Stupid woman.

They could show Jon & TFW working things out, small disagreements here and there that get worked out (to get some drama going), the two of them exchanging pleasantries. Maybe planning the garage sale together.
Show them working out the logistics of balancing her need to be away one week and home one week with his need to work 40 hours/week.

Or, because they're filming, he wouldn't need to work a regular job and would be doing tv stuff, too.

They could show how they worked it out for her to be on CA, and him needing to be on the Today show that day, and how they worked things out to get the kids taken care of.

If they truly are after drama, they could introduce TFM to the show, and show how Jon & TFW work that out.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Mel said... 181

Sure she could do a show with Jon but she'd have to share the spotlight with Jon and that isn't going to happen again.

Vanessa said...

That said, I wonder if she ever will really miss them, or if she will celebrate that time in the future when all of them are gone for good and she's an empty nester.
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If any of them decide as adults to have nothing to do with her (like myself with my mother) she will only miss what "service" that child provided. She does not enjoy their company, their personalities, does not enjoy them as human beings. She is thrilled when they do her bidding---manual/physical work. When they are her audience, her cheerleaders. She wants them to abandon anyone who disagrees with her, makes her look worse than she already does....what she wants is little minions. When one or more of them stop doing this, she'll banish them too. NO, she won't miss "them", but what they did FOR her.
Is it just me, or has this shit REALLY ruffled anyone else's feathers??
those effing tabloids, go pester the kartrashians

Mel said...

Doesn't it seem like she has a very old script, from like 5 years ago, and never veers from it?

It's all Jon's fault.
I keep the peace.
The kids don't want to see their dad, he doesn't want to see them.
Jon engages sabotage behavior.
I hate being with the kids, they make me crazy.
I'm piecin' and patchin'.
(whatever) like all moms. She's always sure to get 'like all moms' in there.
College is funded. College isn't funded.
I never get out of the house. (That filming of CA for 3 weeks or whatever? It was all fake. We faked that in my basement.)
Poor me. I do it ALL. All alone. Poor me.
It's all Jon's fault.

Did I mention that it's all Jon's fault?

You could go to an interview from 5 years ago, and it's the exact same stuff she's spewing now. Know why? Cause life hasn't progressed for her since then. She's stuck back there. She doesn't live in reality, she doesn't see that her kids have changed, that she looks nothing like she did back then.

She probably comes home after these procedures and the kids wonder if she's another wife swap person she's sic'd on them with no warning.

Dahling....time for a new script.

Vanessa said...

What TFW doesn't realize is that a show about her and Jon co-parenting is something that could be long-term.
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She KNOWS how the kids will behave with her and with him. She KNOWS
the kids will behave better with him, be more affectionate with him etc.
She can't pretend to be an adult with him, she knows she can't control herself.
good point about how Jon's going to come across on the Garage sale episode. there has to be a reason for this display of pure evil

PJ's momma said...

Go look at the timeline of the Twitter account mentioned above. (https://twitter.com/DonnaFo1982) Wow, talk about bold. I used to be a deacon at my church, and also volunteer with an agency that helps with utility bills and rent/mortgage. Every place that helps people who are in a bind has a process and their own forms. Never in 15+ years have I seen a letter come in unsolicited to either place, with a list of bills that need payment each month, much less known that such letter was sent all around the community. That is really unbelievable to me.

Sue_Buddy said...

I don't understand her chaotic household. Lots of families have 8 kids.
She acts like she's the only person in the whole world to have 8 kids.
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I knew a family years ago who had 12 children, yes, Kate,12. The parents were both very soft spoken, laid back types, and that's NOT to say they weren't disciplinarians. Yelling is not disciplining. Their children were well behaved and quite obedient. Of course there were challenges but never did I see the children shrieking and yelling and hitting was not allowed. Both parents were a calming influence in their home. Kate is the opposite. Her kids have learned from a master of unnecessary shouting, drama and overreaction. She exaggerates everything (it's 938 degrees outside today, everyone wants me to get married) and just all around sets a bad example, and sadly there's no one who can help her, just like she said. But that's because she will never accept her faults.

Vanessa said...

And please don't tell me that she didn't set the agenda as far as what the questions were going to be.
Just like the Today show, Savannah said "No kHATE, YOU wanted to discuss this"
There's something else going on here. Another court date? What? What could it be??

Anonymous said...

"There are days when I say, 'I'm quitting and not coming back,'" she said of parenting eight children. "I think every mom feels that way."

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Oh puhleeze biotch. Do NOT speak for anyone but yourself. How many moms get to take regular pampering jaunts to NYC and just last week CA? Kids in school with bus rides 8-10 hours a day? And babysitters, housecleaners and homework helpers too. We know you have no attention of walking away because these kids are your prime support. No, you are a piss poor excuse for a parent.

OrangeCrusher

Vanessa said...

"There are days when I say, 'I'm quitting and not coming back,'" she said of parenting eight children. "I think every mom feels that way."
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For her to say this out loud in the hopes of..? what? sympathy??? (eff you)
Shows how sick SICK she is. And you can damn well bet she has voiced those EXACT WORDS to her kids, and then some

chefsummer #Leh said...

Mel said... 184

Same old crap with Kate next I bet she'll be saying...Me & Jon are doing great and we're getting along great.

Then I want.

A Dating show
A Cooking show
I want a Travel show.
I want Man
I'm so alone and lonely.
I'm so tired and exhausted.
I hate Jon and so do the kids.

Lather rinse repeat she is soooo boring and evil.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Mel you SHOULD be her PR person.

Seriously, she only need say a few things you suggested to smooth this all out like a pancake. But she won't, can't, or is too much of a #dolt to figure it out.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Vanessa (#183), nope, it's not just you. This particular interview
was deplorable, even for her. Localyocul, you may be right --
this may be a bit of deflection for whatever TLC is going to
show this week. And remember, her CA firing is just around
the corner, so she wants to control the narrative while she can.

In 2 years and 4 months, TFW will have 8 teenagers in her
house. If she had a brain in her head, she'd be making peace
with her ex now, for when she's ready to dump them all on him.

FYI said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 · 11m11 minutes ago
Hey @DacorKitchen ,HELP!
❤️ur appliances but micro&fridge both 'died' w/in last 2wks!Got new micro but hoping4ur help w fridge asap,pls&thx?

What "help" does she want? For them to give them a new fridge?

As far as what she said about Jon, and how the kids are lacking a male role model. Does she forget that she also has a father and a brother? Oh wait............Another 2 males that she has alienated from her children's lives.

But then again, there's always "Uncle Steve".

FYI said...

This is a tweet she made about the mother who died after giving birth to quads.

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 · 13m13 minutes ago
@HeliDarling I am! I'm praying for family and want to help. Other than FB (I don't have FB) anyone know how to? Thanks!

Hey Kate, try using Google. There are plenty of articles about this, and most of them have a link to a gofundme account that was set up for this family.

Vanessa said...

But that's because she will never accept her faults.
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Exactly. How many posters have said things like
-she should go back to school
-volunteer
-get therapy
-mend bridges
-give to charity
-get some parenting classes
-etc etc etc
If people can see ways for her to improve, why can't she? Why??
Because she is omnipotent, perfect, THE teacher, THE advice giver ...
if THIS article doesn't prove that SHE.WILL.NEVER.EVER.CHANGE
nothing will. She is going on FIVE SIX SEVEN YEARS of the same shit

Vanessa said...

Kate is a twit said... 194
Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 · 11m11 minutes ago
Hey @DacorKitchen ,HELP!
❤️ur appliances but micro&fridge both 'died' w/in last 2wks!Got new micro but hoping4ur help w fridge asap,pls&thx?
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WTF--- Twit, is SHE tweeting this??

AuntieAnn said...

"...But it's really difficult when one parent is in the sabotaging mode. That's been difficult."

It's been a good week for Kate. She got to go to California and mingle with celebrities. She got some alone time with Steve. She learned some new words like perseverance, determination and with a little coaching from Leeza 'tenacity'. Now sabotage.

I have one word for her - malevolent. There's a picture of her right under the word in the dictionary.

She makes Jon the villain because he can't keep watching his kids lives being destroyed by TLC and their raging lunatic mother, but if dragging her daughters onto the Today show to (unsuccessfully) diss their father isn't evidence of who the real saboteur is, then I don't what is. More specials to show how unfit she is as a mother?

Keep flapping your jaws Kate. The more you do the sooner they'll put you away ya freak.

FYI said...

Hmm, Kate's getting testy.

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 · 26s27 seconds ago
Hi haters! I tweeted @DacorKitchen not you:)! Let's let them handle my warranty,shall we? I'm sure you'd contact them2 so calm down! Thanks!

Well, Kate, if you didn't want fallout, you shouldn't publicly tweet it. Why not just call them, instead of asking them on twitter?

Vanessa said...

Hmm, Kate's getting testy.

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 · 26s27 seconds ago 
Hi haters! I tweeted @DacorKitchen not you:)! Let's let them handle my warranty,shall we? I'm sure you'd contact them2 so calm down! Thanks!

Well, Kate, if you didn't want fallout, you shouldn't publicly tweet it. Why not just call them, instead of asking them on twitter?

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Exactly you dumb bitch. Are they going to tweet you back? Are you going to tweet them yoir warranty? The serial #??
And wtaf does she do with these appliances? Top of the line ones at that?

Get outta here and stfu!

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