Wednesday, January 14, 2015

Recap: Celebrity Apprentice Ep. 3: Mrs. Rivera's check is real.


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Last time on Celebrity Apprentice, a montage of Kate Goz-land stuffing her face. The ladies were "starved" for direction with that doofus at the helm so Brandi and Leeza had to take over as the defacto PMs. Nice pun, writers. Because of some other circumstance, Kate skated by on both tasks, even though she stunk both times. Remarkably, even though Kate was PM, they won the Neat challenge. Despite Kate. It's become sort of the running joke on the blog that, as PJ here so eloquently put it, Kate has horseshoes shoved up her ass. Even though she undeniably sucks at this game, each and every time something else will happen that has nothing to do with her, somebody else needs to be fired as a result, and there she is again, veneers twinkling, to live another day. You can't get mad about this stuff, you just have to laugh.

Shawn is still upset that Vivica told Trump on national television Shawn got her period. As I said last time, that is a pretty clear violation of the girl code, except Shawn was the one who disclosed this information on national television in the first place, so this is sort of bizarre. She could have just said she felt the flu coming on. Shawn compares this to talking about one of her teammates going through menopause. Is she suggesting these ladies are old enough for menopause? Vivica gives her a well-deserved look. Shawn's kind of a bitch. There, I said it.

Whoever did the makeup for the women's interviews I have to agree it's kind of creepy how different they look. They look like they're wearing a painting of themselves. Shawn looks like a completely different person. I think it's great the way makeup can help women feel good and give them a pick-me-up, but if you look so different you're not yourself what's the point?

Geraldo appreciates the love from the ladies but the reception from the men upon his return is a bit icy. I think they were all very fond of Gilbert so this was a blow. He is right that the men's team is working against themselves. (For that matter, so are the women at times.) Geraldo is annoying but he's a strong player, and they need to just embrace that and move on.

Trump gathers the contestants in a grand courtyard.

I am happy I actually recognize these iconic steps as part of Central Park and a quick Google search pinpointed this particular area as Bethesda fountain. I have only been to NYC three times in my life, so I recognize almost nothing usually. What a beautiful setting! Production takes their roles seriously on this show, and I appreciate it. The production values are above average, like the time and effort that goes into the locations we see. Seeing what a great job production has done capturing it this season makes me wish for the first time I knew this city better. It's really blossomed.
The teams are going to create a four-page fitness editorial for Cosmopolitan magazine. Doofus over there is blown away. Wow!!! she exclaims. Yeah, not bad for Wyomissing, PA, right Goz-land? Seriously, she's so out of place here. What is she even doing here?

Johnny the cute baseball player and Jamie the snowboarder are going to be the PMs. I think that makes perfect sense and it's nice to see both of them stepping up immediately when in past weeks everyone has avoided this role.

Jamie's charity is to protect our winters. It's going to be hysterical if her team wins because then Trump will have to give the show's money to something he has called the "GLOBAL WARMING HOAX." All caps, lol. He caused this big ole dustup on the inter webs last year during the polar vortex with tweets like that, remember that? There is some real science behind the belief that global warming is not really happening or if it is, it's just normal temperature fluctuations that have been going on since time began and certainly long before pollution, but I'm guessing you're probably not going to get anyone to listen to an idea different than the mainstream just by hitting that caps lock and labeling all the other side's views a "hoax." At the very least, some of the most prominent global warming theorists are acknowledging there has been a "pause" in the warming trend for at least fifteen years, some admitting even longer, that they've been struggling to explain. But it's Trump, so he's never able to present what might be a good point in any kind of reasonable fashion let alone at a normal decibel level. How in the world Ivanka was sired by him is also a great conspiracy. Perhaps even a HOAX. I myself think she really must have been conceived by velvet and cream puffs and I'm sticking to my theory.

Jamie has a sort of "the devil made me do it" look in her eye when she talks about her charity that makes me think she knows full well Trump doesn't believe this shit, but she's going to pry that money away from him and give it to a cause she loves and he despises because that will just be fun. So far, I like her.

Okay, these editors are amazing. As Jamie crows about how their cover should focus on natural beauty, they cut to a shot of Kenya, then Kate, then Brandi, the three most plastic members of the team. Haha, so well done. Why does Kate still look confused? No one is asking her to understand the concept of a scanner scanning in a receipt or bake a pie or anything difficult like that. It's a magazine cover for pity sake.

Shawn has an idea to feature the two Olympians on the team with the theme "coached by an Olympian." Not bad. Kenya points out though Cosmopolitan is a very sex-focused magazine and so maybe they should be sexier. True, but the executives didn't say anything about sex, unless it was edited out. They want a spread about fitness. Bless her heart, Jamie's goal is to just keep the peace on this team. She is one of those naive PMs who thinks she can both win and keep the peace. At a certain point though she is going to have to stand up for herself and her fate as PM if something is happening that could cause them to lose. I'm worried for her on this task.

Lol, Brandi makes a joke about how Kenya could just "buy" more booty rather than do squats and Kenya's death glare is priceless. Brandi just can't help herself, can she?

Over at Team Vortex, the men are once again looking much more organized. They are quietly studying old Cosmopolitan magazines like it's the GMATs. They quickly realize that Kenya is right, the magazine's focus really is on sex. My boyfriend has a wife???? But he's never mentioned her before!

The boys have this idea for some kind of spread invoking the popular "selfies." I love that Geraldo boasts about how he had a very successful "selfie" a short time ago. Well, right, as the butt of the joke, Geraldo. I will certainly not link to that particular selfie or post it here, because I care about you all. If you are a disturbed person and really want to see it again, I will leave you to find it on your own or ask our blog historian. What I will say is that when that selfie came out everyone was making fun of him for it, but he either doesn't realize this or just doesn't care. And this is the beauty of successful people, bad things slip right past them like they're teflon and not only that but they have an uncanny ability to just embrace the bad or even turn it around into something good, like on this task. Dare I say we could learn something from Geraldo and the selfie that America will never be able to erase from our minds.



Johnny is going to bring in his wife who is a model (of course she is) for the cover. I think Johnny is really trying to say something else, but the way it comes out is that women who read Cosmopolitan are perfect women. I imagine some men feel we should all be reading this. Maybe so ... or not. I don't read it and I don't feel I'm missing anything. I don't get the sense this guy is that bright but he seems pleasant enough.

Geraldo has some creepy ideas where he and Johnny will hug and be naked and take a selfie. Johnny and Ian are doing a Kate "ummmm" face. Which is all you can do in this situation. Ian thinks Johnny should have at least gotten Geraldo dinner and a movie first. Lol.

Jamie sticks Kate on the useless job of "counting, time management, etc." Et cetera, lol. These are the jobs you don't really need someone on but you have to assign to someone on the team who is a nuisance to your progress to keep them out of you and your team's hair extensions. Yea! I think she's finally on to her! Great idea, Jamie, stick Kate on counting, lol. Here Kate, count these sandwiches.



Kate's bored of counting already, instead she's texting. Naturally Kate wants to get rid of Brandi, the second strongest member of this team, because Brandi has conflict with Kenya and it's a side show. And Kate would know, she's been the ring leader of an eight-ringed circus since 2004. But Brandi is right, the model should not be Kenya. Kenya doesn't make sense for their theme. Brandi correctly suggests that the models should be their two gold medalists and then a third random male model. That's not conflict that's just stating the facts. Also quite honestly it's on the PM to tell Brandi and Kenya to knock off this little feud for the task and get down to business. Butt out, Barnum. Everything Kate says sounds like a question. 

Commercials! This question thing is not a regional thing, it's an American thing. And it's gotten worse by the year. Especially people under 30, it's like they must never have any certainty in their lives. We need to stop doing the little question uplift at the end of every sentence. Ask anyone British how an American sounds to them these days and they will tell you to please stop asking questions. If it bothers an American it must sound just infuriating to them. Awww, they're going to train guide dogs on the Today show. A friend of mine got a dog last year who detects when she's going to have a seizure, and he has changed everything for her. For the first time in her life she's not afraid to be left alone in her house, or go out on her own. She can have a social life now, even date. Dogs are beautiful, wonderful creatures.

Ohhhhh, now the girls want Brandi to be the model. In Brandi's defense, she never suggested herself. She's basically like well whatever you decide, if that's really what you want, but I did say it should be a man. This is all really pissing off jealous Kenya, who has to take a breather.

Johnny's wife arrives and she is indeed gorgeous, but please, no more duck lips photos. Lorenzo is so sexy when he directs. Even Lorenzo, who is so nice, admits that Johnny really isn't much to write home about of a project manager so everyone else is stepping up too. I really never got the sense Johnny is anything special. You have to be careful going on a show like this if people don't know you're not special. You don't want to accidentally let the cat out of the bag. I think despite his slow start, Lorenzo is shaping out to be one of the strongest players on the men's team and certainly one of the smarter ones.

The women modeling are going to wrap themselves in a flag and it will look like they are naked. Oh, well Kate knows about that. Kate feels this is "spot owwwwn." I don't know, wrapping yourself in a flag has been done only about a million times before. Seems kind of unoriginal. And also, maybe a bit disrespectful to imply you're naked under there.

Jamie's got this, she sends Kate and Vivica to get props and is like, one hour max, people. Lol, after last task's shitshow that's wise. Based on this and the way she's marginalized Kate, I think it's safe to say Jamie is now up to speed on what this doofus really is all about. Welcome, Jamie. I can't picture Kate puttering around with a "superior" Vivica glaring down on her for more than an hour so that should be okay. I think it's hysterical that we so accurately predicted that Kate will always be the one sent off on little mostly unimportant errands and such just to get her out of the way. Called it.

Kenya is trying desperately to make Brandi's butt pop but I'm afraid Brandi is, well, not Kenya. I can't believe this. Kate's useless to this task, so useless all she can do is count sheeple, but there's all this tension and conflict between Brandi and Kenya, and sweet Jamie can't really handle all this big dog fighting that well, so once again some other circumstances that have nothing to do with Kate, like really nothing to do with her, are probably going to keep her safe, again. Lol, this is just too much.

Ian is rather fascinated with how ripped Terrell is. He can't stop talking about his bumpy road of muscles. Simmer down there, Milo, or we'll turn those lights right on out. Hey, that's my camera! The Canon 5d Mark iii. It's the most perfect camera ever made which is why it's probably responsible for most of the photos you see these days including these ones. You could buy a nice used car with the same amount of money it costs, but it's the only electronic I know out there that is actually really and truly worth that kind of expense.

Kenya is not happy with Jamie's PMing because she's asking everyone else what to do. Kenya really hates Brandi's shoot and wants it to be sexier. Take it off, take it off. Brandi is obviously uncomfortable with this, she's like I've had two kids, I haven't worked out in months... But finally she says whatever fine I'll do it, it's for charity, and strips down to her bra and panties. Good for her. Jamie suggests Photoshop. Lol.

Commercials. Did time-lapse guy get fired? All my favorite time-lapses are missing from this episode. A little too much horsing around with the tilt shift lenses and not enough work? Kate and Vivica come back from shopping after "forever" according to Jamie. Oops, should have kept Kate on the counting job. At least Vivica has a pep in her step as she rushes back to the group. They quickly finish up the shoot with the Olympians wrapped in flags and then begin assembling the magazine.

Leeza, the strongest member of the whole team, is worried that they have two different themes going on here, one being sex and "touch me," the other being the athletes and exercising. Leeza, now sex and exercise do go together. You can burn a hundred calories having sex. If you're Brandi maybe even 200.

Ian wants to include a story in their magazine spread about his wife taking pole dancing classes. I really resent hearing about his wife much less her pole dancing. I guess this magazine does sort of feature stories like that. Geraldo thinks the story is too long. He thinks the photoshoot that goes with it is boring and cheesy. They need something to spice up this spread or they're toast. Geraldo to the rescue. Solution: Geraldo in only his socks, shoes and underwear, pumping dumbbells. Genius.

Geraldo thinks he started the trend of selfies. Heh, no, Geraldo, it's amazing you didn't stop the trend of selfies. I imagine he also takes credit for inventing spot news reporting, and talk shows. Certain shades of narcissism are more amusing than anything and mostly harmless. Lorenzo thinks all joking aside Geraldo is just too old for their target market, which is mostly 20 and 30 somethings.

Johnny does an okay job presenting, and good for him getting up there instead of leaving this job to a more obvious choice like Geraldo. Interrupting the presentation to take selfies is awkward, but at least they were trying to tie the presentation into their spread. Their spread looks professional, but the selfie of Geraldo doesn't fit. And is creepy.

Jamie also presents, and she's nervous and a bit stumbly, but again, good for her when she could have just passed this off on Leeza who is always phenomenal at presenting. I'm not quite understanding their concept but their spread is just as professional looking as the men's. The photos turned out beautiful, all of them. Then again, both teams had several unknowns sitting around computers and operating cameras for them on this task. It's not going to look like your fifth grade English assignment with staff like that. It's kind of questionable how much of this can be attributed to the teams and how much to the helper elves.

Boardroom time already again! Another problem with these fast edits this season is that you don't really get to see much of who and what were really the problem on the tasks. 30 second snippets here and there just aren't enough to delve into and analyze all the weak points, which is one thing that is so fun to do as a viewer. What a shame.

The men had a disagreement over what the title of the project would be and felt maybe they were all a little old for this demographic but overall my boyfriend thinks they won. Jamie also thinks her team won, and Kenya thought she was the star of the team. Well, she did work hard to get that booty of Brandi's to pop. Jamie actually agrees Kenya was really helpful here, she claims she did a lot of the work on this project. To me that didn't really come through that strongly in the edit I saw. I mostly saw her picking at Brandi and at one point even excusing herself from the room. I find it admirable though that Jamie can just move on from the little spat she had with Kenya last episode, which in her time was probably only just yesterday, and admit it when she feels Kenya did a good job and was helpful to her. That said, for all her praise, she probably just found out when she saw this episode that Kenya was talking poorly of her to the cameras throughout the task. That's Kenya.

Trump is pressing Brandi to throw Kenya under the bus because the producers I'm sure told him about their conflict during this task, but good ole Brandi is like I want to be a team like the boys so my answer to that is, I think we won! Lol, she's cute at times, oddly enough. Why is Kate making a shocked face when Brandi says they won? Way to back up your team. Kate's probably not going to be on the chopping block this time around, due to this other circumstance, of course. As usual.

Brandi can't help it, she says Kenya is "evil." Yikes, evil? Kenya is explaining Brandi has been way out of line with her since day one and Kate is sitting there nodding wildly and saying "I agree." Shut up, Kate. This has nothing to do with you. What's more, this feud obviously started way before this show, so what do you know about how it all went down, who started what, and which side to pick? You just hate Brandi because she is on to you. You hate her so much you'll support somebody who is obviously equally a basket case if not more. Everyone else is smart enough to just stay out of this one. Does Kate not understand the second Brandi is gone Kenya will just find somebody else to throw under the bus, and it could be Kate next? Guess what, sure enough nine months later Kenya was the only one to directly rat you out about Steve sharing your hotel room. And here you are wildly supporting her, lol. Doofus.

And just for the record, it is simply not true, Kenya (and Kate who is nodding), that Kenya never does anything to provoke this and always just ignores Brandi. This episode was crammed full of Kenya picking at Brandi and making equally snide and immature remarks about her booty and other things, making her take her clothes off in an obvious attempt to humiliate her (which backfired, Brandi looked great), etc. That's hardly ignoring her. She is no innocent here. It's a bitch fight, and they're both guilty.

The executives overall liked a whole lot of things about the men's "selfie" spread but felt it lacked in a specific takeaway. Fair enough. As for the women, the executives liked their buzzwords, but just like Leeza pointed out ages ago, the spread wasn't cohesive, it kind of jumped around. If they want to win these tasks they really need to talk to Leeza more. She knows how you get a message across, that's her entire career. Maybe Leeza needs to speak up louder when they're screwing up, like Geraldo does. The men win it.

Johnny's charity is a charity he started and helps out in a variety of areas, like wounded warriors. He chokes up, as he is a celeb who truly believes in this stuff. Well, he gets credit for being sincere.

When Trump tells the men to get outta here, he makes a grand sweeping gesture like he's a conductor wildly cutting off the French horns. He's so flamboyant and doesn't care.

Trump wants to know whose fault this was. The Housewives, Jamie explains, because they wanted the attention of being the main model. I'm not really sure what in the world she is talking about. Brandi was very clear she did not want to be the model, and had to practically be dragged kicking and screaming into the shoot. For a couple minutes Kenya did want to be the model but once it was decided that wasn't going to be the case I don't recall her ever mentioning it again. Jamie may be smart however to twist her way into a pretzel to blame this on the Housewives. They both hate each so much they're sure to blame each other in the boardroom and take the heat off Jamie. Well played. Ivanka explains that really Jamie is ultimately responsible for missing the boat on not having the four pages relate to each other or showing what the result will be. Oh, now Kate's all nodding at all this?? She used Jamie for what purpose she could, now it's see ya sister, anybody but Kate. Also she seems to have made a few inroads with Kenya by taking her side in her silly feud with Brandi, so the minions are no longer as much use to her I suppose. What a transparent, fair weather friend she is. It's kind of interesting most of the other women aren't really saying much or even defending themselves when Jamie blames them. I think they all know Jamie is done for and it's best to just try to stay out of it. Mel here on the blog pointed out that Kate always makes sure she's sitting or standing near the strongest player so she can bobble her head and act like it was the two of them versus all the other dolts. It's so true. I'm sure the producers must arrange them sometimes, but Kate surely has a role in where she ends up at other times, and it's just too coincidental how she's always right there in the thick of it, having done absolutely nothing of significance to contribute to the task but still bobbling away like she was all part and parcel to everything. What a doofus.

Wow, amazingly enough Brandi decides to swim upstream and wants Kate fired! Lol! She's all like not withstanding all these other issues all Kate does is shop and zone out and how is that at all helpful? If you want to know how I feel about it fire Kate, Trump. You know, if the team got together on this they could make this Kate thing happen but once again, because of all these other things going on distracting people from the fact that she's a doofus, Kate is pretty much sailing on through these tasks and boardrooms giving 10% effort but for Brandi calling her out. How embarrassing it is that despite Brandi's nasty feud with Kenya, she would still fire Kate? How bad is she anyway?

But, but, "doing errands with Vivica and 'et cetera' was assigned to me," Kate says in her defense. Lol, she's so damn literal. Et cetera, lol. Kate, you forgot counting. I want to know how that went, that was assigned to you too.

Trump gets bored with her before she can even finish her sentence and cuts Kate off to ask her who she would fire, haha. Predictably, she would fire Brandi. Because Brandi is on to her. Haha, Trump gets bored again and cuts her off to ask Vivica something. Vivica says quite honestly you know who drives me nuts? Brandi and Kate.  Fire them. LOL!

I think a lot of stuff was left on the cutting room floor on this episode. I mean, we didn't see any of the entire shopping trip with Vivica. That's a lot of time to drive Vivica bananas we weren't privy to. We didn't see much at all of Kate but she must have done something to have these women tearing their extensions out over her when really they should point to Jamie since it's obvious that's what Ivanka wants. Jamie's a shoe-in, but the women are still going after Kate! Hehe.

Kate manages to sound like a tool when she responds to Trump demanding to know why she isn't stepping up, by saying the reason I don't step up for certain roles is because I'm comfortable in all roles. I.e. the other ladies are only good at some things so I wouldn't want to step up and grab something and take it away from such-and-such if it's going to be the only thing that such-and-such is good at, so I'm just being accommodating to all of their shortcomings, your honor. What a narcissist, and what incredible spin, Steve. Trump really can't stand to listen to her for more than a few seconds before he cuts her off again to move on to someone else. Leeza's shaking her head when Kenya's trying to throw Brandi under the bus saying she's toxic to the team. Leeza says she thinks Brandi's great. I'm going to trust Leeza on this, she's the best player here. Ohhh, Jamie brings back Kate and Kenya. That's really not a bad choice at all. Kenya was responsible for so much on this task she could try to blame the failings on her, and enough people have thrown out some ammunition about Kate tonight she could use that as her backup plan.

The men are baffled why she won't pick Brandi. Eh, Brandi's not going to get fired at this stage. She's too hard of a worker and there's nothing about her feud with Kenya that had anything to do with the outcome of this task. Oh, man, Kenya is pissed that Jamie brought her back. The only problem with this is if you get somebody like Kenya mad enough she's going to fight ten times as hard as you ever will, the boxing gloves are going to come out. Eek.

Oh no, Jamie actually tells Trump maybe she made a mistake bringing Kenya back. Oh, no, oh, no. No you didn't, Jamie, you made a great choice because Kenya did all the layout of this project and was very involved with everything they did wrong, and now you just look indecisive, and bullied. Bonehead move. Sure enough Trump turns this right around on her and says this is just part of the problem, you're indecisive. Sigh.

Oh, how nice of Kate to say Jamie sucked so badly at this because she just loves everyone. She's so patronizing and she's not fooling anyone, least of all I would hope Jamie, playing this off like oh I'm so disappointed my minion just isn't up to snuff but I love her anyway, oh well, keep in touch! Bitch, please. Ivanka acts like maybe bringing Kate back wasn't the best move either. Ivanka! She kind of sounds like she has a head cold, so I can only assume that was some momentary lapse with reality.

Jamie finally says I guess I brought Kenya back because she was so involved with this project. Yes, yes, yes, now you're getting it. Unfortunately she should have been pounding away on that two hours ago. It's too late now. She wants Trump to change the rules and fire Brandi but he acts like, change the rules, what, never! Even junior jumps in to say come now, Jamie, you can't be serious. Heh.

Trump says look I could spend time asking Kate and Kenya who he should fire, but that would make him want to tear the rest of his hair out one strand at a time so let's just skip all that shall we? Thank you, Trump. Jamie, you're fired. Trump seems relieved he doesn't have to give a dime to that global warming hoax charity. It's incredible the way Kate tries so hard to act like something she's not. She is so fake. She gives Jamie this awkward bear hug, swaying her side to side like you would your daughter as she goes off to college, stay positive you're just so wonderful and I love you blah blah blah. Stay positive, lol. It's a reality show for gosh sakes. You knew this woman all of what, a week? Good grief.

Jamie doesn't understand that her mistake here was not that she didn't bring Brandi back. That's irrelevant. The mistake was in not explaining why this was all Kenya's fault, as she was more or less in charge of exactly what they screwed up. She should have used Kenya's own words against her! Before they found out they won, Kenya herself said that she was the "star" of this task. She gave herself all the credit. Then it was revealed they fucked up. So who do you blame but the self-proclaimed star? It's so simple. Why no one else seems to get this except Leeza is beyond me, but I think quite frankly, Kenya intimidates a lot of them. As is her right, bullying is part of her game play.

In the car ride home Jamie says this was "almost" her first time being fired in life. Almost her first time? Hehe, I want to hear about the first time!

Oh thank goodness, timelapse guy is back with some cool night shots of city traffic.

Predictably, Kenya just gets cockier about herself having made it through the boardroom. You got through because some 25 year old or whatever couldn't get her thoughts together. Big whoop, doesn't mean you're any good. Look at, Kate. This is her second boardroom and she still sucks at this game.

It seems to me a good many of the players here like Kenya, or at least don't mind her. Terrell touches her ass and discovers it feels real. Brandi thinks it's quite interesting the way she's manipulated them. I don't know if that is the case. I think it's just not the best idea to go around picking fights with people on a show where everyone has a say in who is getting voted off. I think it's as simple as that. Surely at least some of these ladies darn well know, at least Leeza, that Kenya was more or less in charge of a task that utterly failed. I mean pretty much everyone has been shaking their head about Kate, but only Brandi has been actually actively picking a fight with her to her face. That's just game play. Somebody might drive you bonkers, but you might put up and shut up about it because you don't want to call attention to yourself.

The next morning it's pouring rain, who doesn't love New York in the rain, and they meet at the gorgeous Central Park Boathouse. I love it, it's so Dirty Dancing. The task is to sell wedding dresses and raise money for charity. They can charge whatever they want for the dress.

Trump mixes up the teams and the new teams are Kenya, Brandi, Leeza, Johnny, Terrell and Ian as their PM. (Leeza? You're going to have to step up sometime if you are serious about winning this.)

The other team is Kate, Vivica, Shawn, Lorenzo, the crab fisherman, and Geraldo as PM. Geraldo sounds a little bummed he has to step up as PM again so soon but he's like look, I looked around at my team (especially at Kate, right?) and realized I am really the only one who has any business stepping up on a fundraising task. True enough. I am mad Kate got separate from Brandi, the only person willing to call her out to her face. Crab fisherman's lucky if he can figure out how to set an oven timer correctly let alone worry about giving Kate a hard time. Nobody else here is going to give her much grief except Geraldo but chances are he'll be too busy doing actual work and such to bother.

Vivica is so relieved to get some "new energy" on her new team.

If Jamie was a Type B personality, just get along with everybody I don't even realize when someone is upset with me, Geraldo is such a classic competitive, type A personality that you just have to laugh. You cannot stop people like him. Getting mad at them just makes them work against you harder. As Geraldo explains, having Ian on the opposite team, Ian who used to be aligned with Jonas brother, just motivates Geraldo to work harder. I guess Geraldo strongly associates Ian with his nemesis Jonas brother. That feels like ages ago but Geraldo has not set things right yet about that in his psycho mind. It's not really about his charity as much as it's about showing Ian because he is just wired this way, he simply must show Ian. And that's the mistake boyfriends like Ian make. They get in a game with that nut thinking it's poker on a Friday night with the boys, meanwhile Geraldo acts like it's Vegas and the world series and it's Doyle Lawson on his left and Ian on his right and a quarter of a million dollars posted as the small blind. He's just playing this completely psycho competitive crazy thing that nobody else is or ever has before on this show and he's smoking everyone as he goes.

Geraldo is getting the game plan together and there's Kate right next to him sort of in the Barney Fife role, vigorously scribbling down notes for him as if that is at all helpful.  Geraldo wants to know estimated fundraising numbers from everyone.

"I'm pretty comfortable saying 50," Kate says with a straight face. 50, what? 50 bucks, it has to be. Surely not $50,000. Baw-hahhaha. Baw-hahaha.  How do you go from zero on the first task to $50,000 three days later? Rat Claws better have inherited the DuPont estate in the past three days or she's lying.

Ew, Geraldo is one of those men who doesn't cut their nails that often. I have always found that so gross. A man should not have nails unless he plays guitar.

Ha, the crab fisherman, Shawn and Vivica, who are all in the other van, have the same reaction as me! They're just like, 50 grand? You've got to be joking, Goz-land. I love that she's the butt of the joke for just about everyone, even if most people don't feel like saying it to her face. Other reality stars are making fun of her, like crab fisherman and Brandi. She is a joke even among jokes, it's so bad.

Vivica lets us in on the fact that in the Pie Face episode Kate had promised to bring in $25,000 and nothing showed up. That's great information that they never told us before. So Kate was telling everyone that mythical check was for 25 grand?? Hahaha. Kate's not above lying to act like she has any business whatsoever among these real celebs. It's pathetic, sad, and most of all hysterical. Color me shocked that crab fisherman seems to be implying that if Kate pulls that kind of crap again.....you fill in the blank. Sounds like he means to see to it she's fired. Wow, and I was just saying I didn't think he had any interest in her. This is awesome. Carry on!

Ian is talking to his team like he is William Wallace, trying to get them all motivated. The goal is to raise money. The plan is now. His charity is for children who have a genetic disease that causes sores on their skin. Why did he pick this charity? Because he loves skin care. And kids. Thus, a charity about skin care and kids. Ian's even dressed in plaid. Braveheart's army never looked this bored.



And dying in our beds one day, Brandi, will you trade one chance, just one chance, to beat Kate Goz-land at the wedding dress challenge on Celebrity Apprentice? Brandi's eyes glaze over. I had no idea my boyfriend was such a Hollywood fruitcake. I think we may be breaking up in this episode.

Holy shit, Ian has almost $200,000 locked, loaded and ready to go! Way to barely bring out hardly any of that in the Pie Face challenge, geez Louise. There was more game play going on in that Pie Face challenge than I gave these dumb clucks credit for. There is no way Geraldo is going to anticipate Ian has that much he could bring in, is that real? This is the best episode yet so far, mixing the teams around was like a double shot of espresso. I'm ready now.

Commercials!

Ian's team, every single one, are all working the phones like crazy. Exactly what you should do on a fundraiser challenge. There's a ton of food around and everyone is chowing down but the editors aren't editing this to make fun of anyone for eating. That's just saved for Kate. Brandi is ten feet away trying not to have drama and have some quiet for her phone calls. Ian wants her to rejoin the group, like I said ten feet away. She's like eh, no thanks. Terrell gets bored after a few phone calls and stops calling, eats a sandwich, yawns, and so on. Kenya tries to encourage him to get back to it. I think he is one of the biggest duds but I haven't heard a single person flag him as a weak link. Odd.

Over at Geraldo's team he too is on the phone. Kate's in the background sort of playing with her phone but not actually talking on it. Even Lorezno, Sig, and Shawn are making calls.

Kate is worried that her nonexistent money might not come in again. Why? It's not snowing anymore. It's not even raining. Maybe the abominable snowman melted along with the check?

Oh God, I hate what a good idea this is. Ted Gibson stops by and Kate sets him up to agree to give a free hair consultation for those buying dresses. Was this all Kate's idea? It can't be, it's too good. I'm skeptical about the responsible party. Kate claims it's her idea. She also has this idea that she and Geraldo will dress up as a bride and groom and stand outside getting people to come in. It's better than just a boring sign. I would have bet money on that being someone else's idea to just get her out of the way. Who is this woman and what was in that coffee Steve gave her this morning? She's actually contributing something more meaningful to the task than her usual shocked and appalled faces and knick knacks from Bed Bath and Beyond. I get the sense it's really important to her to impress Geraldo. I know he's PM and all, but she seems really overly eager to please him, almost like a strange sort of father figure type psychology going on here, you know what I mean?

You know the sad thing about this? This just proves Kate does have it in there. There are good ideas to be had in that little noggin ready to go and she can work if she would just apply herself once in awhile and not be so darn lazy and zoned out all the time. Aw, Geraldo gives her some nice encouragement, calls this sudden brainstorm session quite enterprising of her. I guess you can't fix stupid. Kate doesn't know what enterprising even means, lol. Shoulda asked her kids, I'm sure they could tell her, they've lived it.

Kate's thrilled they finally have men on the team so they can do all the heavy lifting of carrying the dress racks inside and she can assume her usual role of ordering others about. If those are what I've lifted before, those racks are darn heavy. Team Estrogen, the crab fisherman mutters. Hehe.

No one can find Brandi. Oh no, she took off. She calls Ian and said she had a panic attack and went back to the hotel and will work from her bed. Oh, dear. Kenya thinks this is because Brandi is all intimidated by Kenya. Nah, I don't think so. I do think it's because she has difficulty controlling herself at times and shuts down. She doesn't want to explode on Kenya or anyone and cause a problem so she checked out.  She's like this on the Real Housewives show, too. She slips into bad places and does unwise things and makes unwise comments. I've thought at times she is the survivor of some kind of abuse, I don't know by whom. She needs a lot more therapy than even she already has gotten, but I do think she means well under all these issues. And, why do I feel like once again some other circumstance that has nothing to do with Kate is going to result in somebody else getting fired other than Kate. Yep.

Lorenzo the rat tells Geraldo Ian has told them his number is $180,000. I like that Lorenzo's the narc here. This is his new team now and if he is not here to win why is he here at all? Ian was a real dummy to tell anyone that number until he absolutely had to. Of course all this information does is motivate Geraldo all the more. Now he has a number to aim for, and that's bad news for Ian. The only way this could ever work out for Ian is if Geraldo did not know his number. Now that he  knows it? Game over for my boyfriend and I'm breaking up with him, too. Kate's all giddy because she's sitting front and center and being treated like a real live team member and confidant. Geraldo doesn't have time to do anything but just act like he's accepted her, he has bigger fish to fry and a sleepless night ahead coming up with more donors.

It's the morning, and look at how peppy and talkative Goz-land is this fine morning. She is finally in her element. She's self-appointed herself Geraldo's assistant and loving the ego inflation from it, Brandi's not in her hair extensions anymore, a semi-real celebrity Ted Gibson is on his way over to help her win and so is a big fat check she hopes. Look at her out there in the wedding dress, laughing and joking with Geraldo about her eight kids and so on. This is just nuts the way she came alive. She's been hibernating this whole time.

Brandi is back and dressed up all nice and looking much better and already bringing in some donations. Good, I hope that's all over with. But Geraldo's team brings in a $100,000 check early. Good Lord, that is so much money. All kidding aside, can you imagine writing a check like that? Rich people are another world.

Ian brings in the Chip 'n' Dales. Hello.

Kate's being all clever and stuff. Kate must have an earpiece in her ear, she has to. She's like Sig was wrestling in women to the store like he must wrestle fish. Well, crabs are better described as crustaceans, but I'll let that go since at least she's making an effort to say interesting and funny things. Guess what, if you make an effort to be cute and clever, you suddenly get edited into the cut a lot more.

Noooo, Ian gets a check for $165,000. You know, I have to say for as silly as this task is I'm almost tearful here. Man alive, the generosity out there makes you really want to believe in the human race again. Who throws around that kind of money at charity? A lot of people, apparently.

Eric Trump comes over to check things out and wants to know where Kate's check is she promised. There's only minutes left. On it's way, she says. Lol. I wonder if Kate ever thinks about this idea that whoever her donor is obviously isn't taking her all that seriously to flake on her the first task and cut it down to the wire on the second. That's not very respectful of her.

Terrell sucks, some of his donors are falling through. At least Kate is hustling on her phone trying to get an ETA. Terrell explains that the reality is he really isn't comfortable begging for money. I see. I mean, I get that. It's the last thing I would want to do. But I'm guessing a lot of people don't like doing this, but they've done it because it was for the team and for the win and it's what was expected of them. If this is really not something you're willing to do then you shouldn't have bothered with this show.

Like a knight in shining armor Kate's donor pulls up in a beautifully crisp Mercedes. Who is this guy? He looks cool, like I own a minor league baseball team and a software company in Austin cool. I skimmed some mutterings about who he was on the blog but haven't had a chance to read most of the comments so I'm in the dark still.

Somebody pointed out a common theme when editing this show is to show some kind of dud contestant making a real turn around, and this was indeed Kate's redemption edit. That was the cliche storyline straight out of the playbook, and they fit her into it. Life's a funny thing.

Final boardroom of the night! Ian sells Brandi out about her little incident, and says it was because of Kenya. Brandi said it had nothing to do with Kenya, she just had a panic attack and felt really sick and even threw up. That does sound like symptoms of a real panic attack and they really aren't necessarily triggered by something big like some huge feud with Kenya. I find it hard not to believe Brandi when she said she would continue to make calls from her bedroom and then once it was over was right back there ready to work the next morning and bringing in money without skipping a beat. It's not like she was checked out the whole task as Kenya loves to spin it. Even Trump said a panic attack is not really "checking out," that's hardly fair.

This is really being set up as Kenya vs. Brandi, and someone will have to go and soon.

Barney Fife just loves her boss. She's in awe of everything about him, it was an honor to work for him. He's marvelous. Lol, what is Trump's response to all this ego stroking? Do you have a boyfriend? Haha, he just blurts it out like your grandfather would in front of everyone at the Thanksgiving table. Kate's like uh, uh, well no, but I'll be Geraldo's next ex-wife. Lol. Oh, Kate, it's not as much fun to make fun of you when you're joking too.

It's amazing what a little self-deprication and loosening up will do, Goz-land. I will never say I actually liked her in this episode, but she didn't grate on my last nerve and I wasn't bringing out the doofus term as much as usual, which is saying a lot. You know what, I think she's so intimidated by other strong women she just can't hack it. She shuts down, can't control herself when provoked. She gets along with people like Geraldo because she responds to people who either are much younger and she can mother, or those so much older and wiser they take on a fatherly role toward her. Nobody was going to mother or father Kate on the women's team, that's not how women are in this competition usually. Thus, she reverted to an ineffective doofus. I have a sneaking suspicion this is why she loves Steve so much, he too fulfills that fatherly role for her she responds to so well, and brings out the best in her.

Trump's still playing the grandfather. He's like hey you over there, Shawn, you've really grown up! Haha, that's all he says to her. Poor Shawn.

Trump said there was $600,000 raised with only about a $2,500 difference. Wow! That's unbelievable! His solution to this is to allow the project managers to each keep their own money or go for broke and stick to the deal with winner taking all. There's no way they're not sticking to this deal, they're both too psycho and Type A, and splitting the pot will always make a Type A feel like they didn't really win even if they did.

Geraldo admits that going for broke would just be an ego move, which is entirely true, and begrudgingly he will have to put that aside and just split it. I'm shocked. Good for him and nice for the charities. How wonderful for both charities. I can't even imagine what a small charity like Camp Barnabas would do with this sort of money. I mean it would change everything for them. You could make a freaking endowment in perpetuity with that sort of money and never have to worry about fundraising ever again. As much as money doesn't have to be important in one's life, it can also do a lot of powerful, amazing things.

Geraldo's team wins. Wow. Geraldo says artistic again to mean autistic. So that wasn't just a fluke, I think he thinks that's how it's pronounced, hehe.

Oh this is so sad. How can Trump fire anyone on a team that brought in almost $300,000? How crazy. Geraldo knew they won because he could actually just add in his head and the numbers Trump was throwing out plus the number he knew he had told him they won before it was announced. I was thinking that. Anyone who can add in their head would know the result of this. But of all these dolts only Geraldo could figure it out. The rest were just sitting there waiting in suspense. Hehe.

Trump agrees to round off both men's numbers to $300,000. Ian admits Brandi raised about $40,000, even from bed at home. Based on that, I say her panic attack is a complete non-issue at this point. Kenya only raised $30,000 without a panic attack, so. Leeza raised a respectable $20,000.

Geraldo says based on those numbers you can't justify firing either Brandi or Kenya. Lorenzo thinks Leeza is safe too. Uh oh, that only leaves Terrell and Johnny. Either one of them is a dud so it doesn't matter to me. Trump is confused how people like Terrell and Johnny with their contacts can't come up with much of anything. It's pretty simple, because some people are shy about cold calling asking for money even if it's for charity even if it means they'll be fired. Ian is absolutely correct to bring back Terrell or Johnny. I imagine these men are shocked he would bring long-standing team members back over the women they just joined up with, but Ian is playing to win so you can't blame him for that. If he does something stupid like bring someone back who raised $40,000, next thing you know Ian will be gone. One of them is done and Ian will be safe, but I'm afraid Ian and I? We've broken up. I'm fine. I'll just box up his stuff and he's going to pick it up tomorrow when I'm not home. Really, I'm okay. Ian is in disbelief that one of Terrell's donors that fell through would have been enough so that they won. That is crushing. Terrell seems ready to go, I think he's had about enough.

My ex has his moments where he's a real nut. "Inspiration" is how he raised this kind of money. Huh? Freak.



Terrell, you're fired. Dud from day one. See ya.

The future will deliver, William Wallace says in his plaid suit as he gazes into Terrell's eyes. It's inside of you. Freedom!!! You know Beverly Hills High was built on an oil well. It pumps $300,000 in profits a year of that stuff believe it or not. Maybe the fumes have finally caught up to him.

Aw, next week the great Joan Rivers will be an advisor on the show. What sweet justice that one of her final acts on this earth is to take Kate Goz-land to task.

Fun fact. Kate and Vivica are the only women to have won their tasks as Project Manager so far. Fun fact, Kate has been to the boardroom twice and come out alive twice. We live in a parallel universe, folks. Happy 1,000th!

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Call Me Crazy said...

I tried to post this response earlier, but it didn't go through. I am trying again.

Happy Vegetarian said... 131

I'm sorry, but what does becoming a vegetarian have to do with "descending into anorexia?" Why would you assume that a vegetarian is any more likely to develop an eating disorder than a carnivore? Believe it or not, for many people (and this includes teenagers) make the choice to become a vegetarian is an ethical choice, not some huge red flag about anorexia. (And no, I'm not saying that meat eaters are unethical.)
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Happy Vegetarian, you have completely misconstrued what I am saying. I did not state, imply, or infer that someone choosing to become a vegetarian will descend into Anorexia. Nowhere did I state or assume that a vegetarian is more likely to develop an eating disorder than a carnivore. Nowhere. That is ridiculous. What I did state is that people are genetically predisposed to this brain disease. How did you translate that into me saying vegetarianism causes Anorexia?

Please go back and read my exact words. You should be able to see that my point is that parents need to be vigilant when their child's eating behaviors change, whether it be through dieting, or eliminating fats, or becoming a vegetarian or vegan, or any number of other possibilities. We all know that Kate Gosselin is the antithesis of a vigilant parent, and therein lies my and roxyhelen's concern.

I believe that parents should respect a child's decision to become a vegetarian, but those parents also have a responsibility to make sure that that child is getting proper nutrition within their vegetarian diet. Kate wouldn't know proper nutrition if veggies and rice and olive oil marched up to her and bonked her in the head.

Rhymes - You did not "butt in". Ha. You understood exactly what I was saying. Thank you.

FYI said...

Anyone watch WWHL tonight. Seems Andy had George Lopez on as a guest and somehow Kate's name came up. This tweeter is upset because apparently George said something about Kate's daughter not calling him.

Carolyn B Rude ‏@CarolynRude1 · 58m58 minutes ago
@Andy @BravoWWHL #WWHL Really @georgelopez asking a younggirl not to call you #NotCoolFool @Kateplusmy8 #YuckGeorge

Carolyn B Rude ‏@CarolynRude1 · 40m40 minutes ago
@Andy how could you not stand up @georgelopez said a horrible thing about a young girl? @Kateplusmy8 He needs to check himself. @BravoWWHL

Carolyn B Rude ‏@CarolynRude1 · 13m13 minutes ago
Really nobody else outraged @georgelopez remark about @Kateplusmy8 young daughter to stop calling him. Really @Andy @BravoWWHL #WWHL.

Carolyn B Rude ‏@CarolynRude1 · 11m11 minutes ago
@ConcernedChick @Andy @georgelopez @Kateplusmy8 @BravoWWHL He asked her daughter to not call! I don't care who @Andy hates. She is a child!

Carolyn B Rude ‏@CarolynRude1 · 2m2 minutes ago
@ConcernedChick @hockeymom9598 @Andy @georgelopez @Kateplusmy8 @BravoWWHL He asked her daughter not to call him anymore #Trashy.

Carolyn B Rude ‏@CarolynRude1 · 41s41 seconds ago
@ConcernedChick @Andy @georgelopez @Kateplusmy8 When is it ever ok to make a joke with sexual undertones about a child? #Pleasetellme

So the tweeter is upset that George made a joke about one of the girls(probably Mady), but doesn't she get it that if Kate didn't put those girls out there, there would be no reason for anyone to joke about her daughters. Why isn't she upset with Kate too?

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

So the tweeter is upset that George made a joke about one of the girls(probably Mady), but doesn't she get it that if Kate didn't put those girls out there, there would be no reason for anyone to joke about her daughters. Why isn't she upset with Kate too?

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What was said exactly, and in what context, and why would he bring one of the twins into the conversation?

TLC stinks said...

No way she had shingles. It takes quite awhile to heal. Also she would have been looking for sympathy on Twitter. The woman never tells the truth.

I said earlier, like a previous poster, that I believe Kate and Steve are involved in the leak regarding Jeff Prescott's past. I think she and Steve are both disgusting. Something must have happened to piss her off. She is a sociopath and Steve is her enabler.

JoyinVirginia said...

Latest expanded edition of acronyms and nickanames used here.
The Veranda = This lovely corner of the internet where our gracious Admin and her Blog Girls and Pool Boys host a variety of conversations on all sorts of interesting topics while serving delicious virtual beverages and snacks!

Jon Gosselin = father of the 8 Gosselin children, who is still living despite what TFW says!
Couples Therapy = CT = VH1 reality show that Jon was on with girlfriend Liz

Kate Gosselin = TFW The Former Wife (how Jon refers to her) = TCFW The Crazy Former Wife = TFMJG The Former Mrs. Jon Gosselin = Katie Irene Kreider (her maiden name) = WOS Waste Of Space (how TFW referred to the Grand Canyon, we believe in recycling and it fits) = Shopping Kart (how judge Bruno Tonioli referred to TFW on DWTS after her first dance) = Bitch from Hell (also how judge Bruno Tonioli referred to TFW on DWTS after her Papparazzi dance) = Shmoopie (just because) = sKate (because she is able to skate by on tasks on CA and others who are higher profile get fired) = FSS Freeloading Societal Sponge (thanks Auntie Ann!) (because she is a grifter who solicits free stuff because she has 8! count ‘em! 8 kids) = The Warden (watch her CWS episode if you want to know why) = “Sergeant Asshold McPlasticFace” ( how Michael K. of Dlisted.com referred to her, May, 2014)

The Orphanage = Shawshank = home of TFW and the 8! count ‘em! 8 kids, because she leaves them alone a lot plus how she treats the 8! count ‘em! 8 kids.

Steve Neild = The Boobyguard = Rat Claws = TFM The Flying Monkey = Purse Boy = roommate during CA filming according to Kenya

TLC = The Lying Channel

CWS = Celebrity Wife Swap, another reality show that TFW was on, along with her 20 pound rule book the 8! count ‘em! 8 kids must obey.

DWTS = Dancing With The Stars

Tony Dovolani = Saint Tony of the Ballroom, who was given the impossible task on DWTS of teaching TFW to dance. He is a saint because he put up with TFW tantrums and laziness and did not quit and tried his best to make TFW look good, despite her lack of work ethic, her lack of rhythm, and her delusions about what it takes to learn to dance.

CA - Celebrity Apprentice, hosted by Donald Trump = DT

Rep. Murt = Pennsylvania State Representative representing the 152nd legislative district in Pennsylvania, Army veteran and educator who has successfully sponsored legislation to improve child labor laws in Pennsylvania Specifically House Bill 1458 that passed in 2012 and gave children in reality shows the same protections as child actors in movies in the state of Pennsylvania, limited work hours, required trust accounts for each child, and required set teachers if school is missed. [could this explain why the Gosselin children are so often taken out of state for filming?]

A Minor Consideration = child advocacy group headed by Paul Peterson, former child actor on the Donna Reed Show.

Lavely & Singer = Laverne & Shirley, law firm that represented TFW in the past; now representing Bill Cosby.

Martin Garbus and Shawn Tuma = two respected attorneys who represented Jon Gosselin and Robert Hoffman successfully against a bogus lawsuit brought by TFW to get them to stop criticizing her and advocating for the Gosselin children. Please see realitytvkids.com entry for September 20, 2013 and subsequent dates for full story about dropping of the lawsuit by TFW. The entries around this lawsuit are why I love this blog! Who would have thought that snarking on a reality TV show would lead to an education in constitutional law and discussion about freedom of speech and intellectual property?

McNuggets = McGiblets = so 2013, it’s a really long saga, see viaviewfiles.wordpress.com if you want to read about Bullyville and bogus lawsuits and real judicial opinions.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It sounds like George Lopez did say something inappropriate about the kids. But I share the sentiment that Kate needs to bear some of the blame for this.

This is really different and much worse than just a child actor. She hasn't simply put her children out there in terms of what they look like and their acting ability. She has put who her children ARE out there. Their personalities. The good and the bad. The terrible teen behavior, etc. That's unforgivable. She and her sheeple need to start accepting their role in all this and owning what she is doing to these children by continuing to film them.

When Tucker said the thing about the diapers that was so spot on. Their teen behavior being put out there is like the teen version of putting a child's dirty diapers out there. It's the same thing, different age. It's not okay, it's not funny, it's not appropriate.

FYI said...

Little bit more in the George Lopez saga on WWHL:

BlueLivesMatter ‏@hockeymom9598 · 9m9 minutes ago
@ConcernedChick @CarolynRude1 @Kateplusmy8 Andy just asked George what do you think of the following people&K8 was shown&George was joking

Carolyn B Rude ‏@CarolynRude1 · 7m7 minutes ago
@hockeymom9598 @ConcernedChick @Kateplusmy8 No Bluelivesmatter you are wrong. He told her to ask her daughter to stop calling him. #Check.

Carolyn B Rude ‏@CarolynRude1 · 2m2 minutes ago
@ConcernedChick @hockeymom9598 @Kateplusmy8 He looked at the camera smiled and said tell your daughter to stop calling me.

So from the twitter convo I assume that Andy asked George what he thought about Kate, and George looked at the camera and said something like "Kate, tell your daughter to stop calling me". The tweeter thinks it had a sexual meaning and got bent out of shape.

This is what Kate subjects her children to--being made the butt of jokes. When Kate reads this convo on her TL will it even sink in? I highly doubt it.

njay said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNZVV4Ciccg

what an amazing breakthrough. A breath of fresh air from the prison of Kate's world. Enjoy.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Whaddya mean the kids want someone to look up to besides her?

How stupid is that? First of all, kids don't think like that.

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That's a BIG first of all. I don't believe these kid say or think half the things she claims they do.

Kids this age are not preoccupied with their mom, who they look up to (they certainly may look up to someone but it's doubtful they actually think so literally about it, i.e. I'm looking up to this person), and they are certainly not typically preoccupied with their mother's dating life. These are 10 and 14 year olds for gosh sakes. Their lives are about so many other things, with parents being maybe 10 or 11 on that list if that. Kids this age just take it for granted parents are around and will meet their needs, they don't think it all through more than that.

If they say and think all these things Kate claims, they are the most unusual kids I've ever seen. She's a compulsive liar and just keeps writing the narrative and talking talking talking and is not above just making shit up to pad the story. She's been CAUGHT lying by the kids themselves right on the show, it's been outright proven she just makes shit up.

redbirdsings said...

When I watched the FB video, I didn't look at the comments, I actually forgot. I just went back and read a few and I noticed that there are not a lot of negative comments. I wonder if they are deleting them somehow.

Also, there was one post from a girl who was raised in Little Rock, AR, who is living in TOKYO right now and said that it was ok that the kids got to go on vacation to get out of the Heffner Road Compound!

Now, HOW did a person who grew up in Little Rock, AR and is now living in TOKYO, KNOW where she and her children live? If that is not scary, I don't know what is!! This is all on her watch if something happens to one of those kids or herself from a deranged fan.

redbirdsings said...

I think when the dating plant began to plunk, Steve had already vetted him, and I think he can access through his contacts in the business, he got a lot of dirt on him and got it out.

She is just like a phoenix, she keeps rising up out of the ashes!

FYI said...

She has put who her children ARE out there. Their personalities. The good and the bad. The terrible teen behavior, etc. That's unforgivable. She and her sheeple need to start accepting their role in all this and owning what she is doing to these children by continuing to film them.
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Kate should go read the comments on the Kate plus 8 FB page. Some of them are not nice, especially about Mady. Other commenters are calling those people to task for saying mean things about a child and to stop it because the kids may read their comments.

Again, what they don't get is if Kate didn't film them and show them acting the way they do, there would be no reason for people to say those things.

njay said...

Tucker's Mom said... 190
Speaking of table manners, did you all catch the part where the kids were asked what tjeir mother had taught them?
Use a fork and knife
no elbows on the table
no speaking with your mouth full.....
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Typical Kate, do as I say and not as I do. Did you see that mouth FULL of white um..crap in her mouth when she made her phony face of disgust when M ate the lobster? She had less then a full chew of a huge mouth full. A little less drama from the youngest child in the family please.

I figured out why she stays out of most the drama CA. She knows that it's only kids she can get away with bullying around. She would get ate up and spit out going against the likes of the housewives.

Rainbirdie said...

Flipping stations & stopped on TLC. The screenshot says "Like any married couple, Linda and Bruce share intimate moments with each other". Turns out that Linda is a woman and Bruce is a carnival ride. Yes, TLC is truly the learning channel.

Suze said...

... and they are certainly not typically preoccupied with their mother's dating life. These are 10 and 14 year olds for gosh sakes. Their lives are about so many other things, with parents being maybe 10 or 11 on that list if that.

If they say and think all these things Kate claims, they are the most unusual kids I've ever seen. She's a compulsive liar and just keeps writing the narrative and talking talking talking and is not above just making shit up to pad the story.

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I agree completely, Admin, or at least I thought I did ,but now, I'm not so sure that they don't say much of what she claims and then she adds her embellishment to it.

As I was reading your comment I started thinking about how many years they've been confined on the konpound with her and how she has so tightly controlled every single action of theirs and I wondered how her crazy control has affected them.

Skeptically, I wonder if they actually think this way. Yes, they'd be very unusual kids to think and say the things Kate claims, but their lifestyle and living circumstances have been quite unhealthy and unusual, too. IF they do say the things she claims, it's incredibly sad (and NOT cute, sheeple) that they're so focused on her instead of more healthy and age appropriate subjects. All that said; I sure hope I'm wrong.

reader said...

I agree, kids don't say things like, "Mommy, we need someone to look up to besides you." No way! Especially in that house of drama. So much negative attention! I imagine Kate has made up things, stories, etc her whole life to justify her need to always be right, especially in her passive aggressive moments. I think that sort of behavior goes hand in hand with her inability to compromise or apologize.

reader said...

I am certain a few of the children are already brighter than Kate is and see right through her bullshit They will or they already have learned to keep the peace and not challenge her. Just let her ramble on while counting the days til they are no longer under her control. Honestly, listening to her talk, she sounds like a bratty, poorly educated 13 year old making up stories. I can't imagine anyone with much intelligence believes or respects this woman. And she has eliminated any and all adults who might challenge her.. on anything.
Kate plus 8.....minus so many...Jon, Beth, Kevin, Jodi, Grandma, Grandpa, Aunts, Uncles...caregivers. ..
Why would a sane parent of 8 children alienate so many who loved and helped carry the load?

FYI said...

Here's the clip of what George Lopez said on WWHL. They were playing a game called "George Lo-Pez Dispenser" in which Andy was going to name some celebrities and told George to tell him the first thing he would say if that person approached him. When he named Kate(she's the 2nd one mentioned), George said:

"Tell your daughter to stop calling me. Take her phone away".

http://www.bravotv.com/watch-what-happens-live/season-12/episode-12009/videos?clip=2840438

Since most of the hype about Kate's show(both the new show and in one of the previous specials) has been about Kate taking Mady's phone away, I can see why he said that. I don't see how that tweeter could feel there was a "sexual undertone" to what he said.

The only inappropriate thing was that he made that joke about Mady and that because of Kate, she is now fodder for comedians on national TV..

And the fault with that lies squarely on Kate's shoulders and Kate shoulders alone. I guess "doing everything for her kids" includes having people make fun of them.

Wowser said...

I am so hoping the ratings for the 1st show were dismal....showing the rv episodes right before the new shows probably did not help her

Suze said...

JoyinVirginia,
Another great job on the "latest expanded edition of acronyms and nickanames"!

Anonymous said...

Without seeing the WWHL clip, I'm going to suggest that it's possible George Lopez (hope I got the name right) said to Kate to have her daughter stop calling him because he was making a joke about how she's begging for a job in show biz.

I'd have to see it to give it context. And yes, Kate puts the kids out there.

PJ

Rhymes with Witch said...

Why would a sane parent of 8 children alienate so many who loved and helped carry the load? 17

Key word: sane.

Anonymous said...

Okay, here's the clip. (very poor quality) but it was a very fast, improv statement. It's at the 5:10 mark. Who knows what he meant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9eh4K44uDc

It amazes me how the sheeple jump all over something like that, but see nothing wrong with the words and actions of their mother.

PJ

Rhymes with Witch said...

The screenshot says "Like any married couple, Linda and Bruce share intimate moments with each other". Turns out that Linda is a woman and Bruce is a carnival ride. 14

How low can they go?

Jillyg said...

She puts her kids out there for mocking. So NO ....what he said is not inappropriate IMO. He is a comedian, he's going to say things.

I laughed.

Jillyg said...

For that matter. I doubt GL gives two farts what a few pearl clutchers on Twitter care about him.

JoyinVirginia said...

Thanks Suze! It's fun to add to the list! I finally created a document that I just add on to now.
Should rumspringa be added to the list, or can everyone figure out that's the beverage of choice around here?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Funny -- the non-fans are always jumped on for having "dirty
minds," yet that's the first place they went with this comment.

I haven't seen the George Lopez clip, but I know he has a teenage
daughter (she's almost 20), so my first thought is, he's joking about teenage girls always being on the phone. TFW proudly crowed
about giving her daughters phones so she could take them away.
No one would know this unless she told us. She's served her
children up to America on a "golden platter" for a decade -- that's
all on her. All. On. Her.

NJGal51 said...

Watched the clip and it was a joke. If TFW didn't put her kids out there they wouldn't be fodder for jokes. I just can't seem to muster the outrage that the tweeter is feeling. Shouldn't she be outraged at TFW for putting her kids in that position in the first place?

FYI said...

The convo is about George Lopez is continuing now as we speak. The tweeter is still insisting that George was out of line, and says that children should be off limits. I agree with her, but she doesn't seem to get it that it's Kate's fault for putting her children out their in the first place.

ConcernedChick and another tweeter are doing a great job trying make her understand, but it seems useless. I'm not going to post the tweets here, they're too many. Just go to Kate's TL to follow the convo.

Anonymous said...

Way greater minds than mine (that would be all of you) figured out that GL was referencing sKate taking the phone away from her daughter. "Yes, indeedy"

That totally explains his comment. Nothing sexual about it.

Thanks.

PJ

Ex Nurse said...

I can see why the Lopez joke would set off alarm bells...I don't know his humor, but is it possible he was implying that TFW is such a fame whore, she has her kids calling around for her? And, it was therefore a slam on TFW?

FYI said...

Took a look at George Lopez's TL to see if anyone else said anything about his joke. Nobody did except for the one tweeter. But I did find out something interesting for all the dog lovers here.

George is hosting the first World Dog Awards tonight at 8pm on the CW network. Sounds interesting. AND it looks like Terrell Owens is one of the presenters. Here's some more info:

http://www.newsday.com/lifestyle/pets/the-cw-network-s-world-dog-awards-photos-george-lopez-ian-somerhalder-paris-hilton-more-1.9807184

I might just check it out. Sounds like fun.

FYI said...

Here's a more in depth article about the dog award show.

http://www.oregonlive.com/pets/index.ssf/2015/01/scooby-doo_to_get_a_lifetime_a.html

Scooby-Doo is getting the Lifetime Achievement Award!!

Ex Nurse said...

I watched the show--sort of. I just can't sit there watching her and listening to her, so I was doing other things. I don't understand the entertainment value, let alone the educational value.

Her inarticulate ramblings, in which she starts out asserting one thing, often ending up, by the time she gets to the end of the sentence, in contradicting the first part, is annoying. For example, we do things that all families do.....nothing we do is normal. I don't have time to date.....I;m lonely and I want to date.

I will say one thing...the boys are benefiting from her neglect. They are 3 laid back dudes, (Hmmm--where did they learn that), living with 5 (I don't think Cara falls in this category) high-maintenance females. Of all of the kids, they are the most charismatic and enjoyable to watch--not that I want any of them to be watched. Hopefully, TFW won't notice this...

TFW is certainly reaping what she sowed when it comes to Mady, and the girl tups. They learned at the feet of the master manipulator and drama queen.

MikeB said...

Ratings are out. 1.8 million viewers and a 0.7 share. Even less than the summer Tups Turn 10 specials which were 2.4 and 1.9 million viewers.

I imagine the viewer numbers will decline over the next few weeks. Very likely to drop below 1 million which is where K+8 was when they were cancelled in 2011.

Jumping In said...

I don't know the context in which the kids were asked what their mother has taught them, but "table manners" seems a rather superficial response, even as young children.

My mother taught us to be kind, to be considerate, to help others and to never judge, those are my earliest memories of her lessons. "There but for the grace of God, go I" was her mantra. Be grateful for all you have, and " if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all".

Yes, table manners were important, but even if I was asked that question as a young kid, I still think I would have say, "my mom has taught me to do my best, and to be a good person"

FYI said...

I think that George was just referencing Kate taking away Mady's phone and nothing else. The first story that came out with a preview of Kate's show was this:

http://www.eonline.com/news/614132/kate-gosselin-takes-away-daughter-mady-s-cell-phone-and-you-can-imagine-how-that-goes-over-on-kate-plus-8-watch-now

It's understandable why he would joke about that. Not defending him, but he's a comedian and that's what comedians do. No one is safe.

Yes, children should be off limits, but if Kate didn't put it out there, he wouldn't even know about the stuff with her taking Mady's phone away.

So it all goes back to Kate putting her kids in the public eye and it's all on Kate.

NJGal51 said...

FlimsyFlamsy @28 - I agree with you 100%. The promos are touting the fact that she has teens and how difficult her life is becasue of this. If TFW is going to put them out there things like this are going to happen. Maybe the tweeter should be tweeting TFW and telling her "see what happens when you put you kids out there!". TFW was on the George Lopez show back in her DWTS days and I'm sure she whined about the kids to him.

FYI said...

Ratings are in:

Kate Plus 8 TLC 9:00 PM 1.795 million viewers 0.7share

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/01/15/tuesday-cable-ratings-pretty-little-liars-tops-night-the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-the-curse-of-oak-island-more/350126/

That's even less than the second special back in June which was:

Kate Plus 8 TLC 10:00 PM 1.901 million viewers 0.6 share

JMO said...

Ex Nurse said... 35
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Great synopsis yet I doubt TFW will get it, as she is all about herself. The behavior is completely out of control, but TFW ignores it for the sake of filming - $$$$$$$$. Who does that?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

MikeB (#36), thanks for the news about the ratings. Pretty
significant that the number for this first special was less than
the one for the second summer special.

angie said...

Haven't read all the comments, but it seems there's some sort of chatter about the kids and if they should be off limits.

The kids aren't off limits. Perhaps someone can find Kate's statement about their being on the show makes their family the general public's business.

Game on.
I didn't watch the trainwreck the other day. Am having a hard enough time watching CA, which is a show I have always watched anyway.

Mel said...

Ex Nurse said... 32
I can see why the Lopez joke would set off alarm bells...I don't know his humor, but is it possible he was implying that TFW is such a fame whore, she has her kids calling around for her? And, it was therefore a slam on TFW?


Agree. That's how I took it, too. Implying that TFW was having her kids call him, lobbying him to have her on his show or something.
Or implying hat TFW was encouraging the kid to call him as someone 'to look up to.'

I agree that out of context it didn't sound good, an undertone there that makes one raise an eyebrow.
But once you hear the context you can see that he was making fun of TFW and her fame whore ways.

Layla said...

MikeB said... 36
Ratings are out. 1.8 million viewers and a 0.7 share. Even less than the summer Tups Turn 10 specials which were 2.4 and 1.9 million viewers.

I imagine the viewer numbers will decline over the next few weeks. Very likely to drop below 1 million which is where K+8 was when they were cancelled in 2011.

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Another drop in ratings? It's been 7 months since their last show, and interest did not pick up in that time. It dropped, even with CA and the fake boyfriend story thrown out there.. And it sounds like plenty of people who did watch were appalled at Kate's (and the kids') behavior and will probably not tune in again. I expect that next week's ratings will be even lower.

The sheeple will bleat that 1.8 million is good for a TLC show. Perhaps, but this is not a regularly televised show. This is a special, and people haven't seen the G kids for awhile. Fewer and fewer people are interested or curious enough to tune in as time goes on.

JR said...

Don't think the rating are too bad...... according to todays standards...Kendras ratings were at 600,000 and they still kept her on the air...I would say Kates happy with these ratings..will they stay at those numbers? NO...but for now I think shes safe..

Jane said...

I'm curious as to how these latest ratings compare to other TLC shows. Anyone know?

swimgirl said...

MikeB said... 36
Ratings are out. 1.8 million viewers and a 0.7 share. Even less than the summer Tups Turn 10 specials which were 2.4 and 1.9 million viewers.
******

I noticed that TFW scored less viewers and lower numbers for adults 18-49 than the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I'm sure that Brandi is loving that!

Layla said...

Interesting observation...I have seen on a few sites that only 3 episodes of "season 3" are being released. Monday's show, one with the rest of the vacation, and the room makeover. TV listings only show the 3, and even the K+8 wiki page only lists these 3. Kate said they were going to be shown weekly, and that there were 5. Maybe TLC is spacing them out, hoping for better ratings. People can only take so much of Kate. Or they may have counted the summer specials as two of the 5. Any ideas?

chefsummer #Leh said...

Layla

I know TLC is promoting the crap out of K+8 they show a commercial every time a show goes on break.

I mean I never ever seen TLC promote a show like they're doing with the new K8.

FYI said...

Interesting observation...I have seen on a few sites that only 3 episodes of "season 3" are being released. Monday's show, one with the rest of the vacation, and the room makeover. TV listings only show the 3, and even the K+8 wiki page only lists these 3
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Most TV listings sites only show listing for the next 2 weeks, so that could be why they only show 3 listings. My cable guide works the same way. It only shows listing for the next 14 days.

Circling the drain said...

Ex nurse...AGREED!! The boys' personalities have definitely benefited from their mom's neglect. Of course, all children want a loving mother, so they have suffered, as they do not. The children that Kate chooses to pay attention to appear to be the unhappiest of all.

Layla said...

Jane said... 47
I'm curious as to how these latest ratings compare to other TLC shows. Anyone know?
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The Duggar special where one of the daughters got married had 4.4 million viewers. The Little Couple gets about 2.5-3 million an episode. The last time I saw ratings for Honey Boo Boo, that show had 1.7-something million. So, a regular weekly show of HBB scored as high as a K+8 special. And people hated HBB! And don't forget, there are at least 2 more K+8 shows coming up. The ratings are going to drop even further, just wait and see.

MikeB said...

I'm curious as to how these latest ratings compare to other TLC shows. Anyone know?
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Honestly, the ratings are pretty good compared to the other TLC shows. Over the last week very few TLC shows have gotten over 1 million viewers. The Little Couple, in the same time slot at TFW last Tuesday (the 6th) did beat her by almost 700,000 viewers. The only other shows that came close were My 600 Pound Life: Where Are They Now, My Big Fat Fabulous Life, and Sister Wives.

I think that is more a reflection on the drivel TLC shows more than the attractiveness of TFW. The reality TV shows TLC is focusing on are just not as popular as they used to be. Hopefully that is exactly what the new Discovery president is going to fix.

njay said...

I have a thought on the GL comment. I also thought at first that it was about Kate wanting help getting more tv time. Then I remembered how Kate mentioned so many times how M wanted to act and film. Also the fiasco with the interview with the twins. Do you think it could have been about M wanting a show and the taking of the phone thing?

The only thing I loved about the show was the boys complementing each other and then yelled as they ran to zip again WE'RE THE BOYS! I thought it was adorable. You go boys. And when they were painting the room, one said, "we made a lot of memories in this room. Didn't we boys?" Then one said "we got in a lot trouble in this room." So sad but it still showed their bond which I thought was great.

PatK said...

Glad to see the ratings weren't as spectacular as may have been expected!!

chefsummer #Leh said...

I just can't watch KK on TV anymore.

But it's funny to hear that the GG-(Gosselin Girls) are giving mommy a run for her monies.

terri said...

ADMIN: Were you have issues with the site earlier. Every time I tried to connect here it directed me to some other site like Oprah or Living Lite. Your site would come up but as soon as I tried to see the comments that when it would direct me to some other site.

Mel said...

Ok...here's a quote directly from TFW. She was on Larry King, show aired 2/2/2009.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/02/lkl.01.html

KING: Kate Gosselin -- by the way, the star of TLC's "Jon and Kate Plus 8," with multiple -- do you think your multiple children are our business?

K. GOSSELIN: Well, with our reality show, obviously, we put them out there. And, you know, our goal in our show is to show the real life of what it is like to have two sets of multiples. And basically, essentially, we've made it your business.

Sasquatch said...

Those words..."She's ruined!"....have become prophetic. Ironic that the mentally ill woman yelling that is the very thing that went on to ruin her children, the girls most of all. The boys are doing better by default. Nannies and neglect are much better than mommy in that family. I hope jon. gets on his feet soon.

Formerly Duped said...

terri, me too. It has Christina's Ultimate Diet on a talk show.So you ladies are not getting the benefit of my sage comments as much as usual lol

Also K Plus 8 is not On Demand yet so I haven't seen it- that doesn't count in numbers so I usually watch it that way- or rather, FF through it!

Millicent said...

Ex Nurse said:
... I will say one thing...the boys are benefiting from her neglect. They are 3 laid back dudes, (Hmmm--where did they learn that), living with 5 (I don't think Cara falls in this category) high-maintenance females. Of all of the kids, they are the most charismatic and enjoyable to watch--not that I want any of them to be watched. Hopefully, TFW won't notice this...
************

Sounds like Alexis might want to partner up with her 3 brothers, if such a thing would be allowed in that household. I'm glad to hear others sharing their opinion that the boys seem to have found a way to make their situation more bearable - and are good friends to each other.

Kate seems to have allowed or encouraged discord between the 3 tups, while not realizing that because she is equally awful to the three boys, they bonded together instead of fighting too much among themselves. It's such a shame to hear that two of the favored girl tups are apparently rather nasty and mean. I hope as they get older and more wise to the world, they'll see the error of their ways and become nicer to Alexis.

Mel said...

I saw a comment on another site that was saying if TFW is saying she's not dating Jeff Prescott, it's Kate-speak for she already married him. Too funny.

Millicent said...

Jumping In said... 37

I don't know the context in which the kids were asked what their mother has taught them, but "table manners" seems a rather superficial response, even as young children.

My mother taught us to be kind, to be considerate, to help others and to never judge, those are my earliest memories of her lessons. "There but for the grace of God, go I" was her mantra. Be grateful for all you have, and " if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all".

Yes, table manners were important, but even if I was asked that question as a young kid, I still think I would have say, "my mom has taught me to do my best, and to be a good person"
*****
This reminds me of when I was a little girl, probably about 4 years old. My dad was a fairly strict father, but he also had a great fun-loving side that he showed, particularly around various special holidays. On Easter, he would hide eggs many times, so we could have numerous egg hunts. All the neighborhood kids were welcome to join in too.

We weren't allowed candy on a regular basis, so Easter with its chocolate eggs and jelly beans was a big deal. I didn't want to share this bounty with the neighbor kids and said as much to my dad. He got a stern look on his face and asked me, "What is the golden rule?"

I thought for a minute and then I said, "always say please?" I don't know how my dad kept a straight face. He said, "no, it's do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Oh, that golden rule!

Anonymous said...

So who thinks writing to sponsors is a waste of time? I don't anymore. I wrote to Febreze stating that I was unhappy to see them sponsoring K+8. This is what I received back - it's a response that is individualized.

Thanks for contacting Febreze, XXXXXXXX.

This television program doesn't fit our criteria for family-friendly viewing, and we're not sure why our ad appeared during the show. We specifically request ads for our products not be aired during controversial programs, and I'm sharing your message with our sponsorship team. You can be sure we'll continue to examine our sponsorship principles and actions.

Thanks again for letting us know.

Regular Poster Here.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Tv is changing and unfortunately for this situation it seems to me ratings that would have been abysmal 5 years ago are enough to keep a show on the air today. There's just so much more content now which causes a greater spread in ratings, thus lower ratings.

FYI said...

TVbythenumbers posted this press release from TLC. The amount of viewers is correct, but where did they get those share numbers?

"via press release:

TLC DELIVERS BIG FAT FABULOUS RATINGS ON TUESDAY NIGHT

(Los Angeles, Ca.) – Big broods and big personalities paid off for TLC on Tuesday night (1/13/15). KATE PLUS EIGHT returned with 1.8M P2+ viewers and a 1.4 W18-49 rating, up double digits over its most recent special this summer (6/26/14). The series premiere of MY BIG FAT FABULOUS LIFE averaged over 1.3M P2+ viewers and a 1.1 W18-49 rating, ranking #1 in its 10PM timeslot. The combined premieres drove TLC to rank #2 on the night beating Bravo and Lifetime."

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/01/15/tlc-delivers-big-fat-fabulous-ratings-on-tuesday-night/350720/

This must be what they send out to their advertisers, since the share portion is what matters most to them. They doubled the share portion for both shows from the original ratings. The other show's original share was .05. Talk about exaggeration!! Guess they learned that from Kate.

Susan1956 said...

Uh, oh. Rosie Perez is leaving The View after only 4 months. I don't think I've ever watched a whole show, but does anybody else think TFW's talons are busily dialing her pink iphone trying to get an audition for that spot?

Suze said...

JoyinVirginia said...
Should rumspringa be added to the list, or can everyone figure out that's the beverage of choice around here?

********

If you have the time and don't mind adding it it might help someone browsing the blog for the first time. It may save us from being thought of as completely nuts. LOL

Tucker's Mom said...

Anonymous said... 65
So who thinks writing to sponsors is a waste of time? I don't anymore. I wrote to Febreze stating that I was unhappy to see them sponsoring K+8. This is what I received back - it's a response that is individualized.

Thanks for contacting Febreze, XXXXXXXX.

This television program doesn't fit our criteria for family-friendly viewing, and we're not sure why our ad appeared during the show. We specifically request ads for our products not be aired during controversial programs, and I'm sharing your message with our sponsorship team. You can be sure we'll continue to examine our sponsorship principles and actions.

Thanks again for letting us know.

Regular Poster Here.

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Wow! First time I've seen any company admit that Kate's brand is not family friendly, or liked even. However, not surprising from Procter & Gamble, who cut ties with Kate years ago.

Kate Gosselin, Most Polarizing Spokesperson Ever?

If P&G won't advertise during Kate + 8, that is HUGE. I hope it gains traction.

NJGal51 said...

Terri - I was having that problem last week. I couldn't get to the comments at all and finally gave up.

Tucker's Mom said...

The numbers for K+8 were not as good as the tups' 10th, but still quite good-enough to be a win for TLC.
It just boggles my mind that excellent cable shows with brilliant writers and actors can't make these numbers.

Lynne In RI said...

Steve had already vetted him, and I think he can access through his contacts in the business, he got a lot of dirt on him and got it out.

))))))))))))

Steve released the report on Prescott and his alleged domestic violence? Why would he do that?

The carnival lady...Linda confessed that there were other rides that she "wanted to try," but was afraid that she would be cheating on "Bruce" if she did.

Yes, I watched a snippet. Less than 30 seconds. I just couldn't believe what I was seeing (and hearing). That TLC exploits the mental illness of these people is unconscionable. I was afraid that this show was going to turn out like the one of the man having sex with his car, and there was no way I wanted to see that. I made the mistake of watching part of that one, and unfortunately saw the guy under the car, consummating the relationship,. Geez. I thought TLC couldn't go any lower (no pun intended), but it seems they continue to do so.

Rainbirdie said...

IMO the George Lopez comment was off the cuff, not particularly funny & if one was not familiar with Kate's 'take the phone away' discipline strategy, it didn't make sense. By the way, once upon a time Kate was apparently regular fodder for his comedy routine when he had a talk show & he even had her on as a guest. Here is the link if anyone would like to see another painful example of why Kate will never make it in showbiz & why George Lopez no longer has a talk show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yh5P0KXEuA

FYI said...

Here is the original press release from TLC:

http://press.discovery.com/us/tlc/press-releases/2015/tlc-delivers-big-fat-fabulous-ratings-tuesday-3413/

Jane-to answer your question about what the ratings are for other TLC shows, according to the press release(and TLC):

About TLC
Offering remarkably relatable real-life stories without judgment, the network celebrates the reality that "everyone needs a little TLC." TLC's hit series share everyday heart, humor, hope, and human connection with programming genres that include fascinating families, heartwarming transformations, and life's milestone moments such as wedding-themed programs anchored by Say Yes To The Dress. In the first half of 2014, TLC had 25 series averaging 1 million P2+ viewers or more, including six series that averaged 2 million P2+ viewers or more: The Little Couple, 19 Kids and Counting, Return to Amish, Sister Wives, Long Island Medium, and 90 Day Fiancé.

But again, that's according to TLC.

Suze said...

The Little Couple, in the same time slot at TFW last Tuesday (the 6th) did beat her by almost 700,000 viewers.

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The Little Couple's show, which beat Kate's by almost 700,000 was the last show of their current 'season' whereas Kate's was the premiere. If I was her, I'd not be gloating. lol

TLC stinks said...

I have always thought the boys were adorable where the girls were too much like Kate. I feel bad for Cara who appears miserable and Mady who is, unfortunately, Kate's Klone. So glad I did not watch because my blood pressure would have risen.

I think 1.8 million is not bad, but ITA the ratings will slump as TLC continues to air the other episodes because people now have satisfied their curiosity about the kids. I think anyone who tuned in who watched the original show, was probably shocked at Kate's appearance and the behavior of the kids. No more cuteness, no more marriage banter between Kate and Jon. There's a reason TLC cancelled her old show and it's that she is unappealing and the kids are just not interesting any longer, so viewers walked. I cannot figure out what TLC's end game is with her but it seems they are running out of original ideas with her and their other shows. When there's new management, expect change, one can hope.

ITA with poster above. Contacting advertisers is huge. Remaining silent is simply not an option. If TLC cannot get money from advertisers, they are toast and Kate Gosselin will be toast. So if anyone recorded the show and has the time, I'd love a list of the advertisers published here and I will gladly contact each and every one. Even if you get a robo reply, your comment is noted. Believe me. And it won't take an overwhelming number of comments, just that you (describe your demographic) will not buy their product if they support Kate Gosselin's exploitation. Keep it simple. In my former job we absolutely listened to our customers' concerns. We did not want to lose subscribers and advertisers do not want women to not buy their products.

Ewes on Dewty said...

Kate is a twit said... 75
Here is the original press release from TLC:

http://press.discovery.com/us/tlc/press-releases/2015/tlc-delivers-big-fat-fabulous-ratings-tuesday-3413/

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From press release:

"KATE PLUS EIGHT returned with 1.8M P2+ viewers and a 1.4 W18-49 rating, up double digits over its most recent special this summer (6/26/14)."

Why are they saying Tuesday's show was up double digits over last summer?

Tucker's Mom said...

Susan1956 said... 68
Uh, oh. Rosie Perez is leaving The View after only 4 months. I don't think I've ever watched a whole show, but does anybody else think TFW's talons are busily dialing her pink iphone trying to get an audition for that spot?
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Yes, I see the 1987 french tips tapping away, but Kate's not getting a seat at the table. I think The View wants a younger, hipper host to appeal to that demographic.
Kate's age is working against her now, no matter how much she de-wrinkles, de-lines, lifts, tucks, sucks and fills.
Oh, and she's not ever going to be ready for prime time.

Suze said...

Thanks for contacting Febreze, XXXXXXXX.

This television program doesn't fit our criteria for family-friendly viewing, and we're not sure why our ad appeared during the show. We specifically request ads for our products not be aired during controversial programs, and I'm sharing your message with our sponsorship team. You can be sure we'll continue to examine our sponsorship principles and actions.

Thanks again for letting us know.

Regular Poster Here.

********

Verrrrry interesting about Febreeze feeling the show is "controversial" - especially because it's made by Proctor & Gamble who manufacture MANY household products and who have a LOT of influence (money and reputations talk) in the tv and print advertising world.

Tucker's Mom said...

Lynne In RI said... 73
Steve had already vetted him, and I think he can access through his contacts in the business, he got a lot of dirt on him and got it out.

))))))))))))

Steve released the report on Prescott and his alleged domestic violence? Why would he do that?
*****
Speculation there, but I will say that it's no accident or fortuitous "scoop" that this story is out there. Someone carefully planned it.

Tucker's Mom said...

Rosie Perez was a poor fit for The View. I think she hated the tension on and off set, and looked frightened of Rosie O., like, she was scared Rosie would reach over and snap her like a twig.

TLC stinks said...

My question regarding Jeff Prescott is why this guy has remained silent during all this tabloid speculation. It could be that he and Kate are not dating but have had a "relationship" if you get my drift, so technically Kate is not lying when she says they are not dating. Somebody planted the story and somebody did some digging on his divorce. I feel bad for Precott's kids because now their names are public. It's messy, and Kate always leaves a trail of destruction. And I do believe Steve is entangled in this. He is a private investigator and has resources to dig up dirt. Something just is odd with this. Perhaps Jeff Prescott was being pressured by Kate to do $omething and if he did not, oh well, a tabloid would be tipped off.

Tucker's Mom said...

ITA with poster above. Contacting advertisers is huge. Remaining silent is simply not an option. If TLC cannot get money from advertisers, they are toast and Kate Gosselin will be toast. So if anyone recorded the show and has the time, I'd love a list of the advertisers published here and I will gladly contact each and every one. Even if you get a robo reply, your comment is noted. Believe me
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I've not taken to contacting anyone who supports Kate or gives her millionaire ass freebies, but seeing these preview clips, I'm bothered.
For awhile, I've felt resigned to the inevitability of Kate filming her kids until their 18. But, watching what they're filming and how it's packaged, it seems TLC is trying to get viewers to tune in to the kids' meltdowns, bratty behavior and incredible sense of entitlement.
It seems to wrong.
I feel for Jon.

TLC stinks said...

P&G is headquartered in conservative Cincinnati. They believe in family values.

FYI said...

I just realized that the share that tvbythenumbers reports is ADULTS 18-49, whereas TLC's press release only counts WOMEN 18-49.

That could explain the difference in the two share numbers. .06 for total adult viewers, but 1.4 for women only.

I still don't know what they mean by it went "up double digits", unless they mean the share doubled.

It's like Katespeak for the advertisers.

Layla said...

If someone has a list of sponsors to contact, I will be happy to contact them, too. This blatant expolitation of kids on reality TV has gone on too long. We, the consumers, have every right to speak out--with words, and with our wallets.

Layla said...

Don't you think that Febreze/P&G would have informed TLC that they didn't want their products advertised on K+8 if they think it is too controversial for them? If they don't know why their product was advertised on that show, then they must not have approved it. There was talk a couple months ago about how TLC was having trouble finding advertisers/sponsors for K+8. Does that mean that TLC is sticking ads on K+8 without the advertisers' knowledge or approval? I wonder if the advertisers can refuse to pay for the ads if they did not approve their use.

Anonymous said...

Contacting sponsors seems to do a lot of good. Just ask BV.

PJ

PA Dutch Mom said...

Rosie Perez was a poor fit for The View. I think she hated the tension on and off set, and looked frightened of Rosie O., like, she was scared Rosie would reach over and snap her like a twig.

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O'Donnell said that the rumors of her not returning are false.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/what-the-fck-rosie-odonnell-says-rosie-perez-isnt-leaving-the-view/

I would bet that the sheeple are saying that 1.8 million people watched the show because they love Kate. Milo says that she's loved around the world. What they don't get is that many viewers tuned in to watch a dysfunctional family with the Queen of Mean at the helm. Once this fascination is over (first show) and they've seen it, they'll find something else to satisfy their rubbernecking urges.

"Speculation there, but I will say that it's no accident or fortuitous "scoop" that this story is out there. Someone carefully planned it."

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I agree, but Steve? I don't know that he's smart enough to do this, and why would he? I'm not into conspiracy theories, but the timing of this whole thing is not a coincidence.

Mel said...

Agree that Kate's age is working against her now. One of the reports today was that The View is looking for a younger host to attract the younger viewers.

TFW's not that demographic any more. She's no longer a cute young mother. She's a mom to teens now. (Read: Old)

And with all the stuff she's done to her body, she doesn't read hip mom of teenagers either. She reads as old, wrinkled, wannabe star.

AuntieAnn said...

'He's a business guy. We're working on a business deal, and he's a great guy, a nice guy,' Kate shared.

The 39-year-old mother-of-eight chatted with Extra to shut down the rumors: 'Oh whatever, I'm not dating him. We're working on a business deal.'

'They always make up all these stories,' the Celebrity Apprentice contestant continued. 'Okay, I get it! Everybody wants me to be dating somebody by now. I get the hint.'

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Katespeak for "I'm not dating Jeff because I'm still doing my bodyguard after six years. He's married so we don't technically call that dating either. That would be ...um...immoral. We call it a business deal."

AuntieAnn said...

We, the consumers, have every right to speak out--with words, and with our wallets.

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Or our remotes. I don't care who the sponsors are, I just won't watch TLC period.

readerlady said...

Interesting "sponsor" response, Regular Poster Here Not family friendly programming, hunh? Febreze is manufactured by Procter and Gamble. Didn't TFMJG have a contract with P&G at one time? Yet another former supporter who now realizes she's "inauthentic"! Love It!

Suze said...

chefsummer said...

I mean I never ever seen TLC promote a show like they're doing with the new K8.

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I've seen them flood the air with previews with a lot of the shows they bring back like The Little Couple, the Roloff's, Sister Wives, Duggars, etc. They seemed to wait til the last minute to start promoting Kate's show compared to most of the others, though.

FYI said...

Someone on twitter made a list of some of the sponsors whose ads aired during the show. Here's what she listed:

Little Debbie (McKee Foods), Pillsbury Grand Biscuits (General Mills), Match. com, H&R Block, Activia (Dannon), State Farm.

General Mills, Febreze, Flintstone Dino Egg Vitamins (Bayer), Enfagrow (Mead Johnson & Co), Hungry Howies Pizza, Pantene (P&G, Weight Watchers

Tucker's Mom said...

Katespeak for "I'm not dating Jeff because I'm still doing my bodyguard after six years. He's married so we don't technically call that dating either. That would be ...um...immoral. We call it a business deal."
8*******
It's just silly. Is anyone to believe that Kate has had "half a date" in what? 6 years now?
Really? No sex in 6 whole years?
Not buying it.

Susan1956 said...

Tucker's Mom said... 84

ITA with poster above. Contacting advertisers is huge. Remaining silent is simply not an option. If TLC cannot get money from advertisers, they are toast and Kate Gosselin will be toast. So if anyone recorded the show and has the time, I'd love a list of the advertisers published here and I will gladly contact each and every one. Even if you get a robo reply, your comment is noted. Believe me. And it won't take an overwhelming number of comments, just that you (describe your demographic) will not buy their product if they support Kate Gosselin's exploitation. Keep it simple. In my former job we absolutely listened to our customers' concerns. We did not want to lose subscribers and advertisers do not want women to not buy their products.
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Layla said... 87

If someone has a list of sponsors to contact, I will be happy to contact them, too. This blatant expolitation of kids on reality TV has gone on too long. We, the consumers, have every right to speak out--with words, and with our wallets.
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I would love a list of the advertisers for TFW's latest crapfest. I think if enough people wrote to the advertisers and TLC could no longer make money off her show, it might be cancelled permanently and the kids might get their privacy back sooner.

Having written that, I can almost hear the strains of 'to dream the impossible dream" playing in the background. But there is strength in numbers and it's not the 90's anymore. Does anyone remember the write-in campaign to get Married With Children taken off the air? It didn't work as I recall, but we've evolved and are still evolving since then re: our views on children working in TV ( yes Kate, they are WORKING) and what's acceptable re: programming.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Okay, I get it! Everybody wants me to be dating somebody by now. I get the hint.'
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Who is everybody?

The sheep? Milo?

Ingrid said...

I got a response once years ago from a sponsor that basically said they buy time on a certain time slot that fits their demographic regardless of what show is put on then. I wish I would have saved it. I can't even remember who it was. So I quit writing to any.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Suze said... 95

Maybe it's me but when I watch the TLC channel after every commercial and in between commercials they're promoting the new K8 like crazy. Why..

Me think it's because they lost HBB and they-(TLC) are hoping K8 will take HBB's place.

JMO of course.

Blowing In The Wind said...

It's just silly. Is anyone to believe that Kate has had "half a date" in what? 6 years now?
Really? No sex in 6 whole years?
Not buying it.

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You're assuming that she likes "it."

TLC stinks said...

I know it seems like David vs Goliath, but if everyone throws their hands up in the air, what's the use of having opinions about anything? Talking on this blog has done nothing because you have to cut the head off the snake, which are TLC's advertisers.

You guys remember her deal with K-Mart years ago? Well I did write to them, and others must have too because they dropped her. It works.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I got a response once years ago from a sponsor that basically said they buy time on a certain time slot that fits their demographic regardless of what show is put on then. I wish I would have saved it. I can't even remember who it was. So I quit writing to any.


$$$$

That makes sense for a smaller network. At least that's how print media works. You don't pick articles you advertise around. You just pick which page or section.

chefsummer #Leh said...

It's just silly. Is anyone to believe that Kate has had "half a date" in what? 6 years now?
Really? No sex in 6 whole years?
Not buying it.
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Their's always grow-a-boy friend.

AuntieAnn said...

It's just silly. Is anyone to believe that Kate has had "half a date" in what? 6 years now?
Really? No sex in 6 whole years?
Not buying it.

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These interviews just confirm what Kenya said about Kate and Steve sharing the hotel room. Her silence on that statement is the telltale heart that's thumping away under the floorboards.

Blowing In The Wind said...

You guys remember her deal with K-Mart years ago? Well I did write to them, and others must have too because they dropped her. It works.

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So you know for certain that this is why they dropped her? Maybe it was Kate herself who did herself in by saying or doing something that was not authentic. She does have a history of this.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

No, it's not All. On. Her. People are still responsible for their words and actions.

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That's your opinion. I do tend to agree it's all on her for serving these kids up for public consumption. It is also all on her to stop it.

While I certainly believe any adult who says or does cruel things to these kids should be responsible for their actions, I see that as a completely separate issue from the responsibility every parent has to protect their child from such things. They are both bad actions, but it's not a case of splitting the blame for me or something that should even be split in the first place. They're two separate things. Kate is 100% responsible for putting her kids out there, and any adult who is cruel to them is 100% responsible for their words and actions. No splitting about it.

Accountability said...

I never said anything about "splitting the blame." I responded to a post stating that it was "all" on Kate, which implies that those who choose to make nasty comments about a child are not accountable for their actions.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I never said anything about "splitting the blame." I responded to a post stating that it was "all" on Kate, which implies that those who choose to make nasty comments about a child are not accountable for their actions.


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Understood, and I took it to mean when you said it's NOT all on her, that blame should be split with somebody else. Not sure how else to interpret that.

When you and your buddy kick somebody's teeth in you don't get to say well I am only responsible for 50% of that incident, it's not all on me.. No, you are both thugs who are 100% responsible, it is all on you indeed.

Just like here, both Kate and anyone who is mean to the children are 100% responsible. Thus saying it is all on her is not a comment that upsets me, because it is all on her to me.

readerlady said...

Admin 107 said ". . . No splitting about it."

I agree with you, Admin. It's on TFMJG for putting her kids out there; for making her family's dysfunction public fodder; for showcasing her children's shortcomings, both actual and perceived. For any adult to respond to that spotlight by making the children the butt of their jokes, or who blame the kids for responding to their abuse and their situation with bad behavior, that says a lot about that person's (lack of) character. Although the twins are old enough now to have learned appropriate behavior and boundaries, the mixed messages and encouragement to engage in inappropriate behavior since their early childhood have made it difficult for them to understand and deal with the consequences of their upbringing. The younger 6 are just now getting to the age where they will begin to see things as confusing and inappropriate. I really worry about what their life is going to be like for the next 8 -- 10 years. It's not going to be easy, that's for sure.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

I most certainly did not imply that those who make nasty comments
about the children are not responsible for their actions. Someone
may have inferred that, but I did not imply it. Of course anyone
saying something horrible about those children is a jerk, and
should know better, and should be acknowledged for their
poor judgment.

I said the children being "served up" to the public on TV --
thus making them vulnerable to attack -- is their mother's responsibility, as she signed the contract(s) to allow
them to be filmed. And I stand by that statement.

Mel said...

These interviews just confirm what Kenya said about Kate and Steve sharing the hotel room. Her silence on that statement is the telltale heart that's thumping away under the floorboards.

Interesting that she felt the need to comment on dating/not dating Jeff Prescott, but says nothing about sharing a hotel room with Steve.

The Plot Never Ends said...

Years ago I contacted one of the advertisers for Jon & Kate Plus 8. I forget now which one it was. Anyway, they told me that they buy ''blocks'' of time and TLC airs them at their discretion. So, I gave up after that.

As far as Kate and her ''boyfriend'...I think it's possible that Kate has been dating a millionaire (or billionaire) for quite some time and her handy Security Man Skeeve knows all the ins and outs of keeping it a big fat secret. Afterall, he was actually part of security for some high up Government officials.
I'm not saying Kate is dating someone in the Govt., but maybe it's some high profile person who is MARRIED and has had a thing going on with her for a long time. Who pays for the limos?

IMO, SOMEONE has been pulling strings to promote for her and keep her name in the media constantly. Who that really is may never be known because he is rich and powerful...and really a devious, slick fraud....just like Kate.

Maybe he's hiding in plain sight....Just a thought....

FYI said...

Goody is going off on a manic tweeter frenzy, tweeting the sponsors of Kate plus 8 with the following message:

" The haters don't comment about Duggars, Bates, Roloffs & Lirtle Couple exploiting their kids"

How nice of her to give a list on Kate's TL of all the sponsors for those who want contact the sponsors of the show.

People should really think before they tweet.

Midnight Madness said...

People should really think before they tweet.

*************

Goody? Think? Never happen!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I wonder if the advertisers made contracts with tlc before Kate was ever renewed. Maybe they never anticipated this show would be back and on the lineup

Mel said...

IMO, SOMEONE has been pulling strings to promote for her and keep her name in the media constantly. Who that really is may never be known because he is rich and powerful...and really a devious, slick fraud....just like Kate.

Maybe he's hiding in plain sight....Just a thought....


Funny....I'd been thinking the same thing. There seems to be a little chemistry there that makes one think hmmmm. Watch the body language.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate is a twit said... 115
Goody is going off on a manic tweeter frenzy, tweeting the sponsors of Kate plus 8 with the following message:

" The haters don't comment about Duggars, Bates, Roloffs & Lirtle Couple exploiting their kids"
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What's too funny is that Milo is tacitly implying by extension, Kate is exploiting her kids!

Tucker's Mom said...

I wonder what companies advertise during the TLC shows where the woman is in love with a ride and a guy has sex with his car? I'm just saying that if they are the same companies that advertise during K+8, then I doubt they give sH*t about child exploitation.

FYI said...

This is funny review of Kate's show, but it is on point. It's mostly about how Kate acted, and says good things about the kids. I especially loved the caption under the first picture.

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/artattack/2015/01/kate_plus_8_reality_bites.php

willowmom (now Piper's mom) said...

Mel said...118

Ish Ish Ish Ish Ish!
Skin crawling over here.

Tucker's Mom said...

Mel said... 118
IMO, SOMEONE has been pulling strings to promote for her and keep her name in the media constantly. Who that really is may never be known because he is rich and powerful...and really a devious, slick fraud....just like Kate.

Maybe he's hiding in plain sight....Just a thought....

Funny....I'd been thinking the same thing. There seems to be a little chemistry there that makes one think hmmmm. Watch the body language.
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OMG, you are not implying The Donald??
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

AuntieAnn said...

IMO, SOMEONE has been pulling strings to promote for her and keep her name in the media constantly. Who that really is may never be known because he is rich and powerful...and really a devious, slick fraud....just like Kate.

Maybe he's hiding in plain sight....Just a thought....

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The Donald? lol. She wishes. Trump's just toying with her like a cat toys with a mouse.

No I think it's Steve who's hiding in plain sight under the guise of bodyguard.

Carole said...

Kind of off topic but this new blog about the defective detective really puts the truth out there.
https://cjwhodunit.wordpress.com/2015/01/15/carolyne-pillutla-attacks-medically-frail-baby-and-his-innocent-mama/

Jane said...

Thanks to those who answered my question about the ratings for other TLC shows. It's hard to imagine people tuning in again unless it's for the train wreck factor!

Ex Nurse said...

Layla said... 88
Don't you think that Febreze/P&G would have informed TLC that they didn't want their products advertised on K+8 if they think it is too controversial for them? If they don't know why their product was advertised on that show, then they must not have approved it. There was talk a couple months ago about how TLC was having trouble finding advertisers/sponsors for K+8. Does that mean that TLC is sticking ads on K+8 without the advertisers' knowledge or approval? I wonder if the advertisers can refuse to pay for the ads if they did not approve their use.
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When my ex was in media sales for a major network, the contract was that they would deliver a certain marketing demographic. There was always flexibility for the network built in to the contract to allow them to decide which shows would deliver on the formula. That allowed them the ability to take on a bigger sponsor later, who may have paid more, and can therefore specify which show they want to sponsor.

So, for example, if they were committed to delivering 2 million in the 18-49 female demographic, they can run one commercial on one higher rated show, or two commercials on a single, or multiple lower rated shows. That may be why A Febreze commercial ended up on the show, even if they did not sign on to specifically sponsor it.

Jillyg said...

Bravo !! (From the above linked article)

The kids, who have been reality stars their entire lives, appear mostly well-adjusted. They at least complain about predictable things (who gets the top bunk? Why are we always wearing jorts?), but that probably won't last forever, and the best (only?) reason for continuing to watch Kate Plus 8 is for the prospect of the kids rising en masse against their mother and hurling her into the sea like the Vikings of old.

foxy said...

I wonder why Kate uprooted 6 children from their rooms to accommodate Mady. I am from a very large family and that never would have happened. Also, the boys have been relegated to the basement. Easy enough for them to escape or sneak Shoka in without Kate knowing. To quote the wonderful awesome Kate, "I just don't get it".

FYI said...

Oh Lord, People Mag has an article about Kate titled "Kate Gosselin: My Kids Want Me to Get Married Again".

They call it a People Exclusive.. How can it be an exclusive when it just repeats what Kate said on her past and recent "lonely hearts tours" with other media.

Apparently, the author did speak to Kate because she tweeted:

Mary Green ‏@MaryGreen1969 · 18m18 minutes ago
Love the two Kates. @Kateplusmy8 @KatePeople . Kate G, thanks for accepting Kate C's substitute yesterday! http://www.people.com/article/kate-gosselin-dating-update

Guess the author didn't realize that Kate was just repeating the talking points that she used in her other interviews. Even she got snowed by Kate.

Kate must have a file of things to say, and she just keeps on repeating herself almost exactly word for word.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Kate just stop your FM-Steven isn't going to marry you.

chefsummer #Leh said...

I find it unbelievable that all 8 kids are soooo obsessed with Kate's wanting to get married.

When I was 10 and 13 all I cared about was me.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate is a twit said... 130
Oh Lord, People Mag has an article about Kate titled "Kate Gosselin: My Kids Want Me to Get Married Again".

They call it a People Exclusive.. How can it be an exclusive when it just repeats what Kate said on her past and recent "lonely hearts tours" with other media.

Apparently, the author did speak to Kate because she tweeted:

Mary Green ‏@MaryGreen1969 · 18m18 minutes ago
Love the two Kates. @Kateplusmy8 @KatePeople . Kate G, thanks for accepting Kate C's substitute yesterday! http://www.people.com/article/kate-gosselin-dating-update

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Wow, Kate and Steve are taking redirecting the narrative away from them shacking up in NYC to new levels.
I think this is disgusting, truly.
The world is not waiting with bated breath to see who Kate dates or marries.
She is an ugly, relentless parental alienator and I really think she needs professional help. Why her minions don't see this is beyond me.
She's sick and I can't believe she keeps on getting platform after platform to spew her vile web of deceit.

If a man can get past watching Kate de-ball Jon for years, and watch her children rebel and otherwise behave poorly, he has to be ready to have his life exposed on every level, including being filmed any and every time someone is willing to pay Kate to do it.
Literally, forget your life as you knew it when you get sucked into Kate's orbit.
Kate should be on the record apologizing to this Jeff guy for having his life exposed.
She's a POS.

No one in their right mind wants that.

Tucker's Mom said...

chefsummer #Leh said... 132
I find it unbelievable that all 8 kids are soooo obsessed with Kate's wanting to get married.

When I was 10 and 13 all I cared about was me.
******
If those kids are so preoccupied with Kate remarrying, they need professional intervention.
Being that obsessed with Kate's single status is a sure sign of anxiety and stress.
Those kids should not be focusing on Kate and her love life.

Tucker's Mom said...

It's not just that any man attached to Kate will get sucked into the rabbit hole, but what real man would put up with Steve.
If Kate isn't involved with Steve (unlikely), then he's got to stop the cock blocking.

TLC stinks said...

I believe I read somewhere recently that People and TLC are involved in something together, so absolutely no surprise they are featuring Kate. TLC appears desparate to make sure the world knows Kate is available. They are overselling it which means something is being hidden or she is testing the waters for that damn dating show.

As far as the kids wanting Kate to date, it is total BS. WTH! They have a father and most children of divorce wish their parents would reconcile. She is an utter liar.

My God! Who is behind all this at TLC?

TLC stinks said...

I believe this People article proves the Jeff Prescott leak was part of her and Steve's grand plan to push for a dating show. He's in it for the money and her hoohah. Nobody can convince me those two are in not only a business partnership but a sexual one too. ITA she has not gone without sex since Jon. Why the hooker clothes, long blond locks, and plastic surgery? Because there is a man in her life.

TLC stinks said...

(NEW YORK)-TLC is partnering with Time Inc’s PEOPLE for the first time in NEW BODY, NEW STYLE, an all-new one-hour special that follows the weight loss journeys of two women who lost half of their body weight and finally shed their insecurities with life-changing makeovers. Fashion & beauty expert Mary Alice Stephenson guides them through their emotional journeys and teaches them how to style their new slim figures, and reclaim their confidence. NEW BODY, NEW STYLE premieres Friday, January 2 at 10/9c on TLC.

TLC teamed up with PEOPLE, the world’s most popular magazine, to makeover one of the women, 26 year-old Annabelle, who is also featured in the magazine’s annual “Half Their Size” issue, which hits newsstands nationwide on Tuesday, Dec. 23. PEOPLE’s Style & Beauty Director, Andrea Lavinthal makes a special guest appearance and provides fashion and makeover tips at Annabelle’s PEOPLE photo shoot.

Tucker's Mom said...

TLC teamed up with People for Kate's 24-hour glue-a-fucketymillion-extensions-on-her-angry-hedgehog-head-for-a-photo-shoot.

AuntieAnn said...

If a man can get past watching Kate de-ball Jon for years, and watch her children rebel and otherwise behave poorly, he has to be ready to have his life exposed on every level, including being filmed any and every time someone is willing to pay Kate to do it.
Literally, forget your life as you knew it when you get sucked into Kate's orbit.

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Yep. She'll write him into the script along with her other eight supporting actors, have him hand over HIS balls, order him to sign a disclosure agreement and then tell him they will live happily ever after IF and only if he knows who is in charge.

Anonymous said...

(Leslie)
So I am satisfied with the rating. Didn't Kate's second show many, many months ago have ratings a little bit higher than this go around.

Let's see, so appearing on CA for six hours of TV, Extra, TMZ, Access Hollywood and E channel for promotion DID NOTHING to increase her ratings. Also TLC promoted her show excessively on different channels.This is fantastic news.

I just hope without all that above promotion that Kate's rankings will sink significantly over the next few episodes. And I doubt if they have another round of shows this summer if she will get all that promotion either.

Anonymous said...

Well, this was funny. New issue of TV Guide, on the Cheers and Jeers page, saves the biggest jeer for CA, and says it was a shame to send home Keshia K-P instead of, and I quote, "the awful Kate Gosselin". They go on to say that she brought in absolutely nothing for a challenge that was supposed to raise money. Jeer. Not a fan I guess.

OrangeCrusher

Anonymous said...

(Leslie)
How embarrassing that Kate has said for about four years on national tv how she wants to date yet she claims not a soul has asked her out. Doesn't she get this point. Kate does not say that she is asked out and does not go. She says she does not get out of the house enough to date. Hell, she is on national tv with her face and personality all the time. I found it very interesting no man has asked her out on a date.
In this day, there are lots of couples dating who live in different states thanks to online dating.

I think no man wants her because she is a bitch. And a very well known bitch too. But more importantly, I think Kate really doesn't want to date because then she will have to share her past with someone. For instance if she was to get serious with somebody she would fear they would asked about her parents, Beth, and all the people who disappeared from her life. And they would be privy to to the real relationship she has with her kids. And once they break up, oh my, the things this man could write and talk about. And I think Kate fears this big time. And she should.

redbirdsings said...

Dick Cavett says BC is mentally ill. WOW!

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2015/01/dick-cavett-bill-cosby-mentally-ill-sirius-xm-standup/

All This Is That said...

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@msgoody2shoes21 @GeeWhiz__ @SandieBellz They'll never let her get even a job at a hospital.They want to destroy @Kateplusmy8 . Hope K sues

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@msgoody2shoes21 @GeeWhiz__ @SandieBellz @Kateplusmy8 I think Kate & her lawyer r just sitting back, gathering info & then they'll strike.

LOL! Who or what are they going to strike, and for what reason? Kate sue again? I think she's been down that road and it didn't work out for her then. What "lawyer" would that be? The one who went to the wrong courthouse, or the one Attorney Tuma humiliated when he picked apart that horribly written complaint?

Good luck with that.

What these sheep just can't get through their heads is that everyone is free to write to the sponsors of networks expressing their views about the exploitation of kids on reality television, whether it's the Gosselin kids or any other minor children who are paraded as a circus act for the amusement of the public. Companies have a right to know that there is a growing awareness that this just isn't right, and it's their choice whether to pull their ads from such networks. If they don't want to do it, it's their prerogative and they don't have to listen. Many don't. Some do. It's about time that those who object to all children being exploited on reality television be heard. In Kate's situation, she is doing this to them and she most certainly should be held accountable. When Jon walked away from that show, that should have been the end of it. The kids might have had a chance at a normal life away from the cameras. But she just keeps hammering away, and what we are seeing is a dysfunctional family headed by a mother grasping to hold on to the last of her celebrity status, using the children as a vehicle to do so.

If Kate were to sue for harassment or her "haters" for interfering with employment, what would come out in deposition wouldn't be pretty. She'd have to lay so much on the table, and I think she knows it. No way is she going to be subjected to that. There are so many skeletons in her closet that she wouldn't want let out. It would be best to keep those guys locked behind closed doors and throw away the key. I hope she's smart enough to weigh the consequences of such actions.

Things didn't work out so well for BV and his minions, and we don't hear too much about him being Kate's hero and knight in shining armor. She made a big mistake aligning herself with his contingent, and for her to strike out at "haters" would be another mistake she could add to her long line of missteps.

redbirdsings said...

Hey, Glad your back posting, chefsummer!

PJ's momma said...

Based on the comments on that People article, I don't think she'll ever get married again. People see her as a nasty person, with baggage to boot. How can a person look at so much vitriol about themselves in nearly every article and review, and not crumple into a ball in the corner forever? And yet she keeps putting herself out there for more. Most of us would nearly die from the pain of so much constant and unfiltered criticism. Some of it is pure hatred. People criticize her children horribly too, and she puts them out there for more too.
I'll never understand it. She's obviously rich if she's able to keep 8 kids in private school and in that huge house/property with all those cars, eating 'organic' food, going through orthodontics, etc., despite the fact she hasn't worked in many years. These appearances probably don't even garner one year's worth of school tuition. Is being infamous and hated worth having her mug on TV?
Don't answer!

Susie Cincinnati said...

TLC Stinks said, " ITA she has not gone without sex since Jon. Why the hooker clothes, long blond locks, and plastic surgery? Because there is a man in her life."
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Or a woman. She's done away with the streetwalker look, thank goodness, so does that mean she's not interested in sex any longer? I think that the long hair, plastic surgery, tanning really didn't have anything to do with a man, but of "fitting in" with the Hollywood bimbo look that she tried so hard to embrace.

How would anyone know if she's had sex after Jon, and with whom...and why would anyone really care?

Susie Cincinnati said...

Milo is just loving this "find Kate a mate" thing. She's going to be on this for the next few months, like she was with the inflatable boyfriend. She vacillates between the platitudes, the baby animal pictures, and Kate's love life.

In all seriousness, is there a medical or mental health condition that would cause this...a compulsion to latch on to something and just not being able to put it to rest? Is this a symptom of a disorder that would be cause for concern? Just wondering...

chefsummer #Leh said...

If those kids are so preoccupied with Kate remarrying, they need professional intervention.
Being that obsessed with Kate's single status is a sure sign of anxiety and stress.
Those kids should not be focusing on Kate and her love life.
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It's all about mommy and what mommy wants example of KK list wishes from the kids.

The kids want me to have a dating show.
The kids want me to have a cooking show.
The kids want me to have a dating show.
M&C say they weren't affected by the D but Kate was WTF.
The kids want me to have a travel show.
I got a bodyguard for my kids but he's all-ways with me.

The kids can say anything Kate will find a way to make it all about her.

chefsummer #Leh said...

I think all the work Kate done was to feed her own ego.

Kate thinks she a glam star who everyone loves so why not look like the super star she thinks she is.

FYI said...

Bit of a spoiler for next week's CA. The task after the shoe task is to create a video for Chock Full o'Nuts coffee. This is an interview with the Marketing Director who presented the task to the contestants.

http://hamptonroads.com/2015/01/local-coffee-biz-percolates-celebrity-apprentice

The article gives a some perspective from the participating companies point of view. This part was a bit interesting:

"And Kubicki left each celebrity with a swag bag of coffee, hats and such, which he hopes they'll be seen with in public."

Think Kate will wear the hat in public after the show airs?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

"They'll never let her get even a job at a hospital" -- are these
people delusional or what? Are they picturing TFW driving
up to some hospital, nervously clutching her resume, only
to be turned down because some people tweeted not nice
things about her? For some reason, they need to keep the
fantasy alive that she's just a regular working gal like they
are, with the same trials and tribulations and struggles.

Anonymous said...

(Leslie)
I am wondering if all this "the kids so, so, so want me to date" is to lay the land for her and Steve coming out as a couple. I am really torn if they are sexually involved. Sometimes I am sure of it and other times I am not. And oh, I can see the announcement now: How wonderful the kids already love and know Steve and they are thrilled to have their mom marry or even date Steve.

I swear she uses and uses her kids for everything. It has been said over and over but I will say it again. She is NOTHING without them. And she knows it all too well.

foxy said...

TLC 137 what does ITA stand for? I can't seem to figure it out. I know it must be something really simple. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

"They'll never let her get even a job at a hospital"

Oh bwahaha! On what planet has that biotch even indicated to her six delusional sheeple that she would ever consider working a job like that again. Sad, sick sheeple.

Orange Crusher

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She has not dated anyone because she is with Steve.

Whether her relationship with Steve is just emotional or actually sexual, she is "with" Steve.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think it's apples and oranges to compare Kate Plus 8 to the strange addiction type crap on. Plus 8 is actually hurting people. The weird roller coaster person or whatever isn't hurting anyone. I don't understand that anyway, you can't marry an object here, by law. Not that I'm aware of anyway. I don't care if an advertiser wants to advertise on a strange addiction show. I do care if they advertise on a show that continues to put kids out there, hurt and humiliate them, and profit from it all.

readerlady said...

foxy -- I'm not TLC, but ITA means I Totally Agree.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


When my ex was in media sales for a major network, the contract was that they would deliver a certain marketing demographic. There was always flexibility for the network built in to the contract to allow them to decide which shows would deliver on the formula.


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That makes sense thanks for sharing that. I can see a bigger network specifically selling spots for their big shows. But a smaller network like this one always doing so much shuffling, it would be very difficult to coordinate it so you're buying a specific show. It does make a lot more sense for them to buy sort of a "package" type description instead of some kind of specific show. That said I imagine you can stipulate that you are opting OUT of certain shows if there is a problem with them.

For instance look at how Kate Plus 8 was delayed until this month. If an advisor bought a spot in December and then the show didn't air in December where does that leave the advertiser?

redbirdsings said...

foxy, ITA means, In Total Agreement!

rainbowsandunicorns said...

Not that I'm aware of anyway. I don't care if an advertiser wants to advertise on a strange addiction show.

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Right, but there are some who would argue that they will not buy products from a company that advertises on a show that exploits the mentally ill, which is exactly what TLC is doing with the strange addiction shows.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

Anonymous said... 156
"They'll never let her get even a job at a hospital"

Oh bwahaha! On what planet has that biotch even indicated to her six delusional sheeple that she would ever consider working a job like that again. Sad, sick sheeple.

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Is there a hospital that would want her?

rainbowsandunicorns said...

"They'll never let her get even a job at a hospital" -- are these
people delusional or what?

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lol! That's why she so exhausted and busy and has to set 15 alarms in order to get awake in the morning. She's been driving from hospital to hospital, from med center to med center, all day, every day, trying to find someone who will hire her. She so badly wants to go back to nursing that it's consuming her every waking moment.

Sheeple -- they just really make you smile with what they come up with.

Jeanne said...

I have been confused lately by how ads work. I watch a lot of channels with old reruns and a lot of middle of the night tv. In a commercial break, the same commercial often runs twice. And I'm still seeing ads for Christmas sales. Or the commercial with the big one day sale at the car dealer runs at 11pm after the sale is over. I think the companies lose most of their control over when the ad runs after they pay for a few airings.

AuntieAnn said...

"They'll never let her get even a job at a hospital"

I guess that means they don't think her teevee career is going to last forever either.

FYI said...

Just realized that the President will be giving the State of the Union address this Tuesday at 9pm, same time as Kate's show.

This might help or hinder the ratings. Well, if the ratings are bad, Kate and the sheeple will at least have a good excuse. If the ratings are good, they'll give Kate all the credit.

Wowser said...

Came across this little gem from the 10th birthday episode lol! All Tamar has to do is change the "events" in this article and reprint as a write up for the Maine episode. Lol

http://tamaratattles.com/2014/06/20/kate-plus-8-worse-than-you-could-even-imagine/

librarylady said...

State of the union...this might help or hinder the ratings
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I think it will help, but they would have to know why, that the numbers would be misleading. They just won't say it out loud, lol. Will be interesting to see the result.

NJGal51 said...

Justified comes back this Tuesday for its final season so I know what I'll be watching. Kate who?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

While the fans were so jazzed about this double dose of
TFW -- CA Mondays and then on TLC Tuesdays -- I think it
only points up the contradictions (read: lack of authenticity)
in her lifestyle. On Monday we had glamour-puss TFW,
frolicking in NYC like Marlo Thomas in the opening credits
of "That Girl," with all 8 kids MIA. Then Tuesday we had
poor put-upon single mom TFW, struggling to wrangle 8 kids
on her own (except for the crew daddies and helpers and
bottomless expense account from TLC). Like Ex Nurse said
somewhere upthread, she contradicts herself so often --
sometimes in the same paragraph -- that you practically
need a spreadsheet to keep track of who she is at any given
time.

redbirdsings said...

Man, that Tamara Tattles article! Wow! If I was TFW, after reading that, I would want to yank my kids off tv and become so private, it wouldn't even be funny. She has really messed those poor children up! But she will never do it. She loves it. Good or bad, she just doesn't give a second thought about it.

Jon, please, hurry and put your Superman cape on and save these children!

redbirdsings said...

I sent the promo clip of the beach vacation to Paul Petersen and I will post if I hear anything back. I am hoping he will write a summary of it on his Facebook. I sent it to his Minor Consideration email.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Gladys was worried about the G boys' lack of a positive male
role model. Well, the general consensus after viewing the special
seems to be that the G boys are doing okay -- kind of laid back and
good-natured, like their father. Yet some of the G girls seem to be
struggling. Maybe because they lack a positive female role model?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Time is tricky in Arizona, especially near the Arizona/Utah border.


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Yep. Really tricky. Not the best place for an easily confused sheeple.

FYI said...

Yet some of the G girls seem to be
struggling. Maybe because they lack a positive female role model?
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Maybe Leah actually did say to Kate "We need someone besides you to look up to.", but she actually meant "you're a lousy role model, and we need someone else to emulate". Kate just misunderstood the comment.

Formerly Duped said...

OT:
My cockerpoo herniated a disk in her back and is now paraplegic (Happened after a slip on ice last night). Has anyone had their dog undergo the surgical repair for this? She's 11, but her breed lives 20 odd years if in good health so we feel we should go ahead, given a 90% chance of full recovery.Expensive!

Hate waiting by the phone for info on tests pre-op.

NJGal51 said...

I think that TFW is once again broaching the dating show subject to TLC to see if it will fly and that's why she's on the "set the record straight tour" for her dating and love life. Maybe TLC wants to branch out to that now because the Bachelor and similar shows seem to be so popular. Seriously though, how many episodes does TFW think she could get out of a show like that.

Jumping In said...

My father died when I was 12 and we watched our mother struggle without him. Never, ever did we say that we needed someone other than her to look up to, so she could just go out and get another father for us. No kid thinks like that, they either want their parents to reconcile, to put things back the way they were, or in our case, cope as best we could.

As we grew up, we recognized our mother was a person, not just our mother, someone who missed having a partner. Obviously, we wanted her to find happiness again, but even as adults we compared potential step-fathers to our own, rather flawed father.

So, do these kids sit around and talk about finding a replacement for their father who lives down the road, I don't think so. It must crush them every time their mother tells that particular lie, knowing they have to look the father they love in the eye and reassure him it's not true.

The emotional burden TFW places on these kids is so damaging, especially when it comes to Jon, he will always be her children's father. And, to suggest they do not look up to him is beyond despicable.

Ingrid said...

I would be suspicious if Kate got a dating show and actually found a guy she really liked. There could actually be a secret boyfriend and they just fake the show with him as the 'winner'.

redbirdsings said...

When TFW was about to live boil the lobsters and one of the tup girls protested, was it Alexis? Isn't she the one that wanted the lizard backpack a couple of years ago for school and kate said basically, hello no? This was on the same show as when the tups wanted shoe laced shoes, not Velcro. LAZY SLOTH! I think the producers, including TFW, who is listed as a producer on the show, took her love of animals and knowing she would flip out if she realized that the lobsters were going to be boiled to death....

FOR EXPLOTATION AND RATINGS!

I just found out yesterday that a young man, in his early 20's, told me that he had been in and out of the drs. offices, they found a huge lymph node in his neck and they think it is cancer and have to have chemo. Then just a couple of hours later, I was telling someone else about it and they told me, oh a girl, early 20's, here just found out yesterday that she has the same thing and she is going to have to do chemo.

Couldn't believe I found out that 2 people I know and care about is having to go through chemo, in one day. Hopefully, they have caught it in time and it will be taken care of! These kids are so humble and it is so sad.

NJGal51 said...

Formerly Duped - I was just talking to a woman at the vet's office and her dog had a similar problem and our vet tried acupuncture before resorting to surgery (because of age of dog) and it seems to have worked amazingly well. The woman said that the dog was moving better than she had in years and that her back/spinal problems had all but disappeared.

PJ's momma said...

Formerly Duped, PJ herniated his disk too, while at the petsitter. Not sure how, he woke up paralyzed. He had cortisone injections at the site and was on strict rest for several weeks. I bought him a little wheelchair and he healed up nicely without surgery. I know that is not an option for every dog, but I would ask the doctor. The wheelchair is a lot less expensive and risky than surgery, and you'd always have it for the times that her got back got a little wonky or weak. This happens to PJ and a few days in the cart, straightening his spine and supporting his rear, do him good.

Anonymous said...

Formerly Duped, sorry to hear about your pup. Ask yourself, what would you rather spend your money on? I know I wouldn't be able to think of a single thing I'd rather spend money on than my boys. (bishons)

PJ

Mel said...

Seriously though, how many episodes does TFW think she could get out of a show like that.

Exactly. Short-term thinking. That only lasts for 6-8 episodes and then you're done. It's not like she can have a dating show for the next 10 years.

Same with all these reality shows, CA, CWS....you're only on them once.

What she really should be aiming for is a talk show. Except she's too stupid to handle one. And much too un-natural in front of the camera.

All she has to offer is the making exaggerated faces and the over-worked mom bit. Who wants to go onto a talk show and have the host act like you're the biggest drag on them, or have the host making stupid faces at the camera while you're talking.

redbirdsings said...

NJGal51, TFW could do a dating show, BUT, it would be one of the biggest hoaxes ever on reality TV. She would do it for the money only, give false hope to potential suitors, and satisfy her veracious appetite for putting herself on TV, making a big chunk of cash, pampering and it being all about her.

This is crack to her and she constantly has to have a fix to feed that narcissism.

Steve would be presented as her bodyguard. So I seriously doubt she would be making out with a potential suitor in the same ol, same ol, hot tub, tipsy with wine spritzers, because Steve is HER MAN!

She might, but highly FAKE and fabricated.

Would love for her to go on Patty's show and Patty realize that TFW is a fake and is with TFM, forever. And she calls her out on it! Bwahaha!

AuntieAnn said...

NJGal51 said... 178

I think that TFW is once again broaching the dating show subject to TLC to see if it will fly and that's why she's on the "set the record straight tour" for her dating and love life.

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They're saving that show for a special on her 40th birthday. Jamie will arrive the night before to *surprise* Kate and drag her off in a limo to NYC where they have cordoned off Time Square for the ball drop for the big event, usually reserved for New Year's Eve - but hey, it's Kate Gosselin!!!. Steve can activate the ball and the millions of people who have gathered will sing Happy Birthday to her as Kate officially becomes an 'elderly' at midnight. Then there will be a lottery draw and Kate will pick out the lucky dude's name from the fuckity-hundred thousand men who have almost died waiting for a chance to take her bar crawling and some toe-lickin' good times on this most celebrated day of the decade.

That's how Kate sees it anyway.

Tucker's Mom said...

Formerly Duped said... 177
OT:
My cockerpoo herniated a disk in her back and is now paraplegic (Happened after a slip on ice last night). Has anyone had their dog undergo the surgical repair for this? She's 11, but her breed lives 20 odd years if in good health so we feel we should go ahead, given a 90% chance of full recovery.Expensive!

Hate waiting by the phone for info on tests pre-op.
******
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Our 11 1/2 y.o. Bichon Frise suddenly herniated T13-L1- no idea what happened. We let him out for his morning business and 10 min. later, he came back in the house with his back legs draggy.
We *immediately* took him to our vet and he was placed on anti-inflams, pain meds and muscle relaxers. A couple days later, with no real improvement, we took him to a specialist.
He underwent an MRI and had surgery right away, for a hemi-laminectomy, foraminotomy and fenestrations.
Yes, it was expensive, but, begin a small breed, we knew he'd have the opportunity to live many more years, and we were 100% committed to his recovery.
He was released from the center and his recovery was intensive, with activity restriction and medications for several weeks. He eventually regained full ability to walk, but never could trot again, and had a slight drag on each leg for awhile.
But, that was ok ;-) He was up and about and even was able to go up and down stairs!

THE SOONER THE BETTER IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT!!

Good luck- it's scary, but it'll be ok!

Report back!

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate is a twit said... 176
Yet some of the G girls seem to be
struggling. Maybe because they lack a positive female role model?
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Maybe Leah actually did say to Kate "We need someone besides you to look up to.", but she actually meant "you're a lousy role model, and we need someone else to emulate". Kate just misunderstood the comment.

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I think this isn't far off. I believe Kate moans and bitches and complains so much that the children have internalized her "struggle" and want relief for HER, not another "father" for them.
I think it causes them marked anxiety to the point where they must might be preoccupied with Kate's singleness.
This is a cruel parental failure on Kate's part, and for her to put them through this inside of their own home, and then broadcast it to the world, just shows what a narc she is.

Tucker's Mom said...

When Kate blows hot air about "moving on" and being "open to love" again (total b.s., but...), it's all about what she needs and wants from a man.
NEVER about what she can bring to the table; to love and care for someone, to meet THEIR needs, to love and care for HIS family.

Oh, and you know what? First rule about step parenting is that you are NOT their parent, especially when the same sex parent is alive and involved!
You support, but you do not act like you're a fricking Drill Sergeant, taking over the household, which it sounds like exactly what Kate wants- to hand over the reins.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

When Kate blows hot air about "moving on" and being "open to love" again (total b.s., but...), it's all about what she needs and wants from a man.
NEVER about what she can bring to the table; to love and care for someone, to meet THEIR needs, to love and care for HIS family

$$$$

That has always stuck out to me. The way she talks about relationships whether it's romantic, kids, or family and friends is always very self centered and never gets to the essence of what a healthy relationship really looks like. I don't know she even knows what it is.

Tucker's Mom said...

The emotional burden TFW places on these kids is so damaging, especially when it comes to Jon, he will always be her children's father. And, to suggest they do not look up to him is beyond despicable.
January 16, 2015 at 8:01 AM
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First, sorry that your lost your dad so young. I lost mine a few years later than you, but I can totally relate to watching my mother with the utmost admiration for her dogged determination to get up out of bed every single day and face the world.
My mom didn't complain, even though she had every right to, and think about her (now gone) when I feel weak and tired.
I ask if she would have given up. I ask would she make herself do x,y or z when she was bone weary.
She never had a maid or cleaning service (until living in a senior living apartment), never sat in a limousine after my father's funeral, never had anything handed to her.
I would have been happy for her if she remarried. It would have been weird though, even as an adult. So, I can't imagine for a minute all 8 kids are longing for a stranger to come into their home and become their step father one day.

AuntieAnn said...

Tucker's Mom said... 190

You support, but you do not act like you're a fricking Drill Sergeant, taking over the household, which it sounds like exactly what Kate wants- to hand over the reins.

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She wants to unload the burden. She might love her kids (?) but she hates raising them. When has she ever not bitched about the job.

TLC stinks said...

The secret boyfriend is Steve and TLC darn well knows all about it. If they were ever to air a dating show it would be a HUGE RISK because it would be a hoax.

Tucker's Mom said...

She wants to unload the burden. She might love her kids (?) but she hates raising them. When has she ever not bitched about the job.
******
This is probably one of the best ways I've seen it put: a distinction with a difference, and that is, Kate likes the idea of her kids.

Formerly Duped said...

Thanks PJ, PJ's Momma- are you two different people??, and Tucker. My dog is having the surgery right now! They said the first 24 hours are critical if function is to return. The conservative measures I would have preferred of course.Never heard of a dog wheelchair, amazing what's available. $8000! But this hospital seems great, with MRI and full neurosurgery staff, one nurse per dog.You can even Skype your dog. I am more worried about post-op at home since she was never a crate dog and had full run of the house, couch, beds etc.Also some of you may recall my medication struggles with this fuzzy one, oy!

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Steve can activate the ball and the millions of people who have gathered will sing Happy Birthday to her as Kate officially becomes an 'elderly' at midnight.

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Does he still have his balls?

chefsummer #Leh said...

So, do these kids sit around and talk about finding a replacement for their father
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I think Kate is the one who sits around talking about a replacing Jon.

I'll even bet she talks bad about Jon and his parenting skills in front of the kids as often as she can.

Mel said...

what Kate wants- to hand over the reins.

Exactly. That's why she was so incredibly jealous of Kendra. That was all supposed to be hers! To be pampered, have it be all about her, not have to do any work.

redbirdsings said...

I was channel surfing and caught the last of the View and Rosie O. was interviewing a little boy and his little sister. The boy is a youtube superstar who reviews toys and makes over 1 million a year! He has more views than beyonce and Madonna combined. Like a billion!

Instead of having shows like what is shown on TLC, she could of had a kitchen studio and each time invite a single mom and TFW and the single mom could cook and share recipes and then have each of their children taste the food. And her girls could of done girl toy reviews and the boys, of course Legos. But not show her mug on their period!

That would of been plenty of incoming cash to support them. They would just show the kids and the other mom's kids trying the food. Budget friendly. She could even had the 10 dollar meal lady from Food Network as long as she didn't slap her forearm hard as hello like she did Emeril!

What am I thinking???? She can't cook!!! Not a lick!

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