Saturday, March 15, 2014

Recap: Couples Therapy episode 9: There's nothing at the end of the rainbow!

Happy St. Paddy's Day to you, boy-o!

Last time on Couples Therapy, the lesbians fought, Duck Lips quivered, and Teen Duck Lips's gestational carrier Debra showed up in a vain attempt to straighten Dr. Jenn out. As straight as that hair is, her soul would not conform. Coming up, Sada confronts her father about abuse in her childhood, another guy from Teen Duck Lips's past shows up to try to explain to Dr. Jenn this isn't your average teen duck, and poor Jon is on the phone trying to speak to his children he hasn't spoken to in two weeks.

Oh, yeah, this dumb fight. As we recall last time, Sada was upset about her father, and Whitney asked Sada if she wanted her to hang around, and Sada told her no. Because lots of people want their space when they are upset, Whitney obliged and went off to play pool. Now Sada is mad because even though she told Whitney to leave, Whitney should have known when she said she should leave she didn't really mean she should leave, in fact she really meant the opposite, that she should stay. And I hate women.

Whitney wisely says this whole thing is really just about Sada being nervous about her dad, and she will try to be more aware of Sada's needs, but Sada just needs to tell her what she needs if Whitney doesn't realize it on her own. Sada says she needs to not project onto Whitney. And they figured this out without Dr. Jenn's help!

Ha, bed selfie! Teen Duck Lips gets in bed with Duck Lips and her fiancé to take a photo. Open mouth smilies are at least better than duck lips. Somehow I don't think that will be the most retweeted selfie of all time. Most awkward maybe.



Dr. Jenn, who is apparently an upstanding member of the Anglican church when you Travoltify her to "Deacon Jernes," sits down with Sada and her dad.

Sada's father, who used to be a bodybuilder, is now bald, skinny, and kind of wimpy looking, which seems to happen to a lot of child abusers when time catches up. Ironically, Sada could beat him up now, easily, though she never would.

Sada's dad looks sad and remorseful, and admits he would explode sometimes and destroy everything in the house. Despite the fact that he was horrific to her when she was a child, Sada is the one telling him it's okay. Child abuse is often generational, and so it is here. He said all his father had to do was look at him and he would shake. God, how sad. Deacon Jernes remarks profoundly that when you have an abusive parent you either become abusive yourself or you don't and stop the cycle. Well yeah, those are pretty much your only two choices there. Very good, Deacon.

I give Sada's dad credit for admitting yes, he did beat Sada up. Denial is very common in child abuse. He says he's sorry and he loves her, and wishes that his dad would have talked to him like he is with Sada. I think he truly wants to heal this, and that will only benefit Sada and Whitney. Sada is very happy Deacon Jernes helped them with this and she and Whitney hug.

Coming up, Teen Duck Lips's ex-boyfriend Daniel is coming to the house. I'm starting to remember this guy more from Teen Mom and was he ever really her "boyfriend"? I only recall a few dates and maybe one and a half meetings with Debra before Daniel got a clue and high tailed it out of there. And I think that's part of Teen Duck Lips's problem is that she saddles guys with these significant labels way before they're fully cooked, and guys get overwhelmed. By date three you're practically her husband, and what halfway sane man wants that? Give him at least four or five dates to process the prospect of Debra being his mother-in-law.

We're back, and Sada and Whitney are joking that Sada must have been Cleopatra in a past life. Ha, she does kind of have the hair going on there.

Teen Duck Lips is hoping with Daniel here she'll get feedback on why boyfriends don't show up and act shady to her. Teen Duck Lips, save your money. Was she not listening when Duck Lips explained this already? She's f---ed up, that's why. It's really not any more complicated. Guys don't want to be with someone f--ed up usually. You may be hot (she's not) and good in bed (who knows, we'd have to consult the not-a-porn tape) but that's not worth it to most men in the long run if you're also a psycho. Plus, knowing Deacon Jernes here she'll take Teen Duck Lips's side again and that's not helping anyone least of all Teen Duck Lips.

Deacon Jernes is seeking to get to the root of why Teen Duck Lips attracts the wrong men and has such a darn hard time connecting to people. Deacon? It's called sociopathic. Surely you've heard of it. I know some people get all bent out of shape at words like sociopath being thrown around, but the fact is enough people with a background in psychology have observed enough footage from this mess to make a pretty fair guess that that's what is going on here, and that's the word they keep coming up with. I think some folks strongly associate sociopath with serial killers, and that upsets them and they think the word should be off limits because of it. What needs to be understood is that everyday people are sociopaths and that only a teeny, tiny percentage of them actually kill people, and that suggesting that someone's behavior consistently aligns with that of a sociopath doesn't mean you're calling them a mass murderer. I doubt Teen Duck Lips would ever kill someone, but I do believe she is still, at her core, anti-social, without empathy and remorse, and disconnected from reality--a sociopath.

As a side note, I think it's pretty insulting to the men for Deacon Jernes to imply Teen Duck Lips is attracting the wrong men. The few men I've seen with her seem nice and normal. There was nothing wrong with Daniel. And that other guy who was supposed to be on the show but wouldn't because they were going to make him pretend to be dating Teen Duck Lips, seemed like a man of principle. He risked being sued for hundreds of thousands of dollars because he refused to lie about their relationship. That's not the wrong type at all. That's the right type, for heaven sake. Rather, I think the men need to ask themselves why they are attracted to the wrong woman. Or thing. It.

The way Daniel's shirt is cut so high and the dark navy color makes it look like it's part of a Civil War uniform. Poor Daniel, it is like going into a bloody battle every time anyone sits down with Teen Duck Lips.

Daniel highly resolves that his brief relationship with Teen Duck Lips shall not be in vain, as he begins to explain that although initially she was fun, he soon found out she was a freak of nature who wouldn't let him have an opinion about anything and didn't treat him like a boyfriend should be treated. Isn't that how it always goes when you step into a vortex like this? Woo-hoo fun good times.....oh dear make it stop. He goes on to explain she was dedicated to the proposition of being extremely rude, blunt, and disrespectful, and that he doesn't think she even realized she was doing it. Ouch, Daniel says Teen Duck Lips needs to be a better mother and example for her daughter. Teen Duck Lips rolls her eyes and gives a "whaa?" expression. Lol, like it's such a shocker to her someone would call her a bad mom. Deacon Jernes seems pleased with this revelation and thanks him for coming. Daniel says his pleasure, gets up to shake Teen Duck Lips's hand like a gentleman, and, oh, no she didn't, haha! She won't shake his hand and says snottily thank you so much and I wish you the best in your relationship.


Baw-haha, she's such a bitch. Well, I for one want to thank you, Daniel. At ease.

Teen Duck Lips says she is a very good role model for her daughter in real life. Real life? What's that mean? Everything we see of her parenting on T.V. is fake? Yeah right, nice try.

Even Dr. Jenn seems to finally be admitting that what Daniel just said is about the same as what everybody else in the house has been saying, and that this feedback is consistently the feedback Teen Duck Lips has been getting since the beginning of time. Hmm! The deacon is finally catching on, maybe there is something to this! Sort of a fool me once situation, eh? Teen Duck Lips seems to understand they think she is disrespectful at times but seems fully unable to recognize it when she does it. Truly, that's a bit scary. It's one thing to know you're being a jerk and you realize it of course but you just don't care to stop for whatever reason, quite another to be clueless about your jerkiness and think you're actually quite sweet and nice. I'm beginning to think she's the latter, and how do you fix that? And this is why so many people with various backgrounds in mental health or just good plain common sense think she's a sociopath. A sociopath is so emotionally stunted and cut off from other people's feelings, they can't even begin to recognize when they're being cruel.

Oh, blah, Deacon Jenis or whatever the hell her name is is now congratulating Teen Duck Lips on all her therapeutic progress. This is just patronizing at this point. What progress? Really, what has changed about her? Not two minutes ago she was rolling her eyes at and refusing to shake the hand of someone kind enough to fly out there and tell her the truth. Call me crazy, or cruz me meems, but I think she's regressing, not progressing.

Day 18. There's Wu-Tang sprawled across their bed, big surprise there. He spends so much time on his back there I'd start hauling him over once in awhile just to make sure there's no bed sores. Thank God Kelsey says she's let him go at this point. Then get out of the same bed, girl! Unless she's on bedsore duty?

It's a beautiful day, Teen Duck Lips announces as she walks into the kitchen with her mentor Duck Lips. Nearly every day is just gorgeous in Los Angeles, rarely too hot or too cold, which is a blessing. We got this freak rainstorm for three days the weekend after this episode aired and it was hysterical the drama over it. You get swept up in it, even I didn't want to be on the roads. It wasn't too bad in retrospect and didn't last long, but they made the most of it. The funniest was a reporter from KCAL9 news who was supposed to be doing a spot news segment in a rain jacket, Anderson Cooper style, but it already stopped raining by the time they got around to her. So she had to basically stand out there, in the bright lovely sunshine, and swear on her scout's honor she was just standing in a downpour earlier and it was epic, wish you coulda seen it! LOL, and it hasn't rained a drop since.



Geez, I almost forgot about Duck Lips. It's so fascinating the way she's sort of become one of the "normal" ones when you compare her to the likes of Teen Duck Lips or the Latrice love triangle with that lazy pig over there. She was so not normal on Real Housewives.

Woo-hoo, one-on-one with Duck Lips. Oh, curses, it's about her abusive past, which is so hard to poke fun of especially because her husband committed suicide, may he rest in peace. Lol, Duck Lips remarks how Dr. Jenn sure has had quite a last couple of days! Dr. Jenn cracks up. Between Debra and Daniel, definitely. Duck Lips is witty!

Duck Lips says she's been struggling to parent her daughter Kennedy, who sometimes just shuts down. She feels she wasn't there for her emotionally all the time. Dr. Jenn says Kennedy's anger is normal given that her father died, and that Duck Lips should not try to brush it under the rug. Geez, that cross around Duck Lips's neck is so huge you could crucify someone on it. Wardrobe change, and now Duck Lips is wearing some kind of Pharell Williams type hat. File that under trends that look ridiculous on you after age 40 or even 30. She says she thinks she needs to give Kennedy more structure. How do you even begin to try to seriously give a child structure in that getup?

Jon is outside at his usual hangout with the lesbians and Duck Lips and John. It's obvious this little group has really bonded, and since I more or less think these are the nicer people in the house, I'm glad these are the ones Jon has befriended. He says he wrote a book explaining everything that happened to him but then his legal team got their hands on it and were concerned, so he hasn't published it.

Jon says the lawsuit with Kate has been very hurtful to him. As much as we have giggled, laughed, snickered over Kate's "squeezed and pulled and hurt my neck in 1988" moving papers, lawsuits hurt. They really hurt. They are emotionally damaging to those involved. They are stressful, embarrassing, and demoralizing. They instill fear in you. Fear in what could happen and how much money, time and energy you are going to need to exert so that the worst doesn't happen. Fear of the future. Fear of being destroyed, professionally, personally, and financially. What she did to the father of her children with this frivolous suit, which as we know was soon dropped, was terrorize him. Make no mistake, a lawsuit is really no better than pulling a gun on someone. Our legal system has become that frightening and adversarial. Lawsuits were originally designed for the rare circumstances where you have been truly wronged, cannot move on from that wrong, and have tried everything in your power to correct or heal that wrong first with the other parties before resorting to the court of law. For instance, a dispute like this probably could have been resolved with a simple phone call, or lunch date, and a few apologies. Instead lawsuits have morphed into a method of first resort, of terrorism, blackmail, and intimidation. They are abused by people like Kate, and others, and it's shameful. And the fact that she used such a terrible method to go after her children's own father, only to drop it completely as soon as she realized he wasn't going to back down, is truly the most heinous thing she has ever done in her entire life, even worse than exploiting her children. The fact that she dropped it so quickly just proves she was only using it to intimidate. If she truly thought this suit had merits and was going to go to the trouble of filing in the first place there would be no reason to drop it just like that. She used it as a weapon, period, and when Jon and Shawn Tuma


(dreamy!) pulled back the curtain and exposed her weapon as just one of those props made out of rubber, she ran away like a little girl. Heck, lots of people have exploited their children, let's face it. But few people would do this to their children's father.

Ah the voice of reason in Duck Lips. What's the point of suing if he has very little money in the first place and what he does have goes to his kids? That's what we said! Isn't this sort of a robbing Peter to pay Paul situation?

"Let it go, you know?" Duck Lips remarks. That's what we said too.

Who knew Duck Lips would be the voice of wisdom for Kate. Kate, listen to Duck Lips and let it go. Not just the lawsuit, but everything. Your hatred for Jon, your sad quest to get yourself back on T.V., your stupid tweets about birds and dirty socks, your desperation for a career that's been over for years now, your fantasy of eight little Shirley Temples who skip off into the sunset every week on our T.V. screens. It's over. It's....over. Duck Lips's words may be simple--Farrah's fucked up, lawsuits should be let go--but she's just so darn correct most of the time.

"You hate me more than you love your children," Jon says. Yes.

Duck Lips says it all, so I'm just going to quote every last bit of it, and I hope Jon and Kate take it to heart. "Jon and Kate need to focus on eight. Wasn't that the point of this whole thing with them? I don't understand what the hell they're fighting over. First of all, this lawsuit? Let's say she gets a judgment against him. There's nothing at the end of the rainbow! So it's just a waste of everyone's time, and there's eight little people stuck in the middle. Imagine how much energy it takes to raise that many children. I can't imagine dividing your energy amongst fighting and bullshit."

Thank you, Duck Lips. See, you can be the cool girl, wear Pharell Williams hats and be the smartest girl in the room. Lean in! My only minor nitpick with her speech is there is something at the end of the rainbow, these creepy guys:


She even said "among" like the Irish would, "amongst." Lol, oh Duck Lips, always so timely.

We're still on Day 18 I guess and they show a touching montage set to Matthew Perryman Jones of Kelsey running, the sun on her shoulders, John and Duck Lips in bed together giving each other loving looks, the lesbians kissing, Liz making a phone call probably to her kids, Wu-Tang praying over his meal (lol that's funny, boink God knows how many women but be sure to pray over your eggs). Then, they show Teen Duck Lips. Putting on lip gloss. Haha, that's great. Nice touch, producers.

This next part is heavily edited but I'll try to explain. Jon is sitting with his phone upset because he hasn't spoken to his children in two weeks. "F-- her!" he says. Dr. Jenn says Jon is upset because he just got off a heated phone call with Kate. They don't, however, show the actual phone call. We just see the aftermath. Jon says Kate doesn't value him as a man or even human. Liz advises him not to get fired up like this.

Jon's frustration comes out in droves. He says she's narcissistic, tweets too much about the kids, even has a web site dedicated to them, every book she's ever put out is about them, and she desperately wants to be on T.V., but he says it's never going to happen. "Eat sh-- and die." As we've discussed, this is a common expression that is not a death threat; although it's not a nice thing to say, obviously. Then again, it's not nice to deny a father contact with his children for two weeks either. I can't really disagree with Jon on all that and I'm sorry that he picked this Borg as the mother of his children and now has to deal with this until the kids are 18 and probably much longer. If there's one lessons we should get out of Jon and Kate's divorce, it's that you have to be careful who you pick for the mother of your children.

Day 19. Dr. Jenn sets up an exercise for the group where they are in a nice dining room and are going to break the "Norman Rockwell" image. Dr. Mike says this is called exposure therapy, where you connect to your feelings with actions. They're going to find something in the room that connects to a defining moment for them, and then they're going to tear the house apart. Now that they explain it this way instead of just a six-second promo clip taken out of context, it actually sounds reasonable enough.

Duck Lips breaks some shit with a trophy and mutters about Russell and her mom and dad as she quivers and sobs. Liz is crying too but kind of looks like she's quietly laughing as well. Heh, I kind of was a bit too, I'll admit my evil side.

Sweet, Teen Duck Lips's turn! So I guess they're not saving the best for last. Poor thing, her mom wanted to keep a reasonably tidy house growing up. She wasn't allowed to be the pig and slob that she is. She breaks a painting for all the paintings she couldn't touch growing up. Teen Duck Lips, no one is supposed to be touching a painting, even adults. It gets it all greasy and grimy and then it doesn't look pretty anymore. It's not a play thing. It's a painting. It was not just Debra being mean to you, none of our moms let us touch fine art and somehow we made it through childhood unscathed. This girl is just ridiculous. She breaks the painting through a window.

Haha, they make Teen Duck Lips pretend that Dr. Jenn is Debra for a moment. Oh this is so incredibly great. "Mom, what I needed from you that I didn't get is to just care about me more than all these things that I don't know why they matter to you."

People made fun of her flat chest and nose, too. No not her nose!



The thing Teen Duck Lips needs to understand is that everything she is describing is just part of life. Life will not be all roses, nor should it be, as that would be rather boring and would never build much character. High school is tough for lots of kids, dare I say most kids. You might get teased a bit for developing too slowly or quickly, for a funny nose, too fat, too thin, too short, too tall, or anything else that kids pick on. It happens to almost everyone. You might also have a mom who doesn't want you to touch nice things because that's sort of a mother's job to teach you about valuing nice things. But most people don't see such things as childhood trauma like she does for some odd reason. Rather they grow up, realize Mom was right you shouldn't put your grubby hands all over nice things, and that that person making fun of your nose never graduated high school and sits on the couch all day drinking beer and watching Hulu Plus. So who cares, they don't mean anything to you now. Time to get on with life. I can't imagine what Sada is thinking, whose dad admits he beat the crap out of her and even once slammed her between the car and car door. This girl is just a mess and she could destroy a hundred rooms before she'd ever get that noggin on straight.

"What you want, no plastic surgeon can give you, Farrah," Dr. Mike says. I'm afraid there may be nobody out there, M.D. or not, who could give this train wreck what she wants. She's insatiable.

Duck Lips's fiance John breaks some stuff but we don't know why. His backstory must be inexplicably normal and boring, because the producers have never spent two seconds trying to tell us about it. Whitney and Kelsey break things. Kelsey has a GoPro camera attached to her helmet, like she's about to go snowboard at Crested Butte after this. Wu-Tang finally acts like he's beginning to understand where she's coming from and gives her a nice hug.

Jon's up, and he feels that in his marriage everything always had to be so perfect. He goes at the chandelier like it's a piñata that's about to spit out 100 dollar bills. Sheesh. He says he got tired of having to do everything in the marriage. And I believe him, he did carry the weight in that marriage, between working and caring for the children and running around doing whatever Kate wanted. And not only that but Kate acts like she was the one who did it all, which we all know from all the film is just a flat out lie. This is the first time I really remember Jon expressing some frustration at the weight he had to carry in that marriage, doing it all while she did nothing. He said he wasted ten years of his life on things being fake, another quote that was taken out of context in the promo for this. He of course did not in any way shape or form imply he regrets his children or anything like that, he is simply saying that the marriage Kate wanted was very difficult to be in and left him scarred, that's all.

Jon actually looks relieved after this, he even smiles a little as he catches his breath and says he feels better, that this exercise was "awesome." He needed to get out some pent up aggression, and it's better it was done in a controlled environment. It's interesting that Jon first says he needs to be with "someone." Then he corrects himself and looks into Liz's eyes and says he needs to be with her and needs her love. Liz says she needs to give more love to him. She says she's proud of him, and that this exercise was quite symbolic for them. They get what the therapists were trying to do here, and that's good. Liz draws Jon into a big hug and Dr. Jenn remarks that this was the first time she's seen Liz pull Jon toward him. Dr. Mike says they all did great work. I still think Jon probably needs more therapy, better in private, about why he feels he just needs to be with "someone." I think there are still a lot of unresolved things behind that statement. But Rome was not built in a day.

I was skeptical about this exercise at first, as I'm skeptical of a lot of therapeutic exercises, but I have to admit that almost everyone seemed to get a lot out of this and so many of them seem to feel so much better now. Jon says he and Liz needed to let go of things they were bottling up and they can move forward now.

Next time, oh sh&t, Wu-Tang says he "forgives" Kelsey. Kelsey's face is priceless. You forgive me? she blurts. Haha!

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chefsummer #Leh said...

AuntieAnn said... 197

I'm sure Milo can help you out if you need nice thing to say about KK's -)

chefsummer #Leh said...

Rod McArthur ‏@macprint61 2h
@AlfredoCocozza @MY_2BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 why am I even having this conversation with you, I've never even heard of the lady before.
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LoL.

JoyinVirginia said...

Sleepless, thank you for the Hair lyrics! Made me laugh out loud!
OT how in the world can anyone not be focused on Selection Sunday!?!? And the championship games this weekend? University of Virginia beat Duke to win the ACC championship! VCU lost to St Josephs for the A-10 championship. We watched both games at our friendly neighborhood sports bar with lots of other fans, and cheered for Virginia and VCU.
Back to Celebrity Apprentice. three folks surprised that TFMJG would be considered, some of the Real Housewives have been on prior seasons, and Gary Busey was the most outrageous contestant they have ever had. As for Omarosa, she is very educated and smart and can work hard. Also devious and self centered, great reality TV character. I can't imagine TFMJG would be able to put a coherent sentence together with a bunch of other strong willed contestants taking over her. I almost want to see it, and I almost feel sorry for TFMJG if she really gets on it.

Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said...

Milo you complete suck-up, what would be your purpose of calling Kate Skinnyminny other than to curry favour with your queen. You know just what to say to her to make her love you more and more each day. And how does one actually come to that conclusion anyway, that Kate looks too thin. I saw the photo and she looks to me like she has had more botox on her forehead because her eyebrows are way, way up there. I couldn't tell if she was too skinny or not. It wasn't that good of a photo. I will say though that she is starting to look more and more like Bruce Jenner.

Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said...

Milo you complete suck-up, what would be your purpose of calling Kate Skinnyminny other than to curry favour with your queen. You know just what to say to her to make her love you more and more each day. And how does one actually come to that conclusion anyway, that Kate looks too thin. I saw the photo and she looks to me like she has had more botox on her forehead because her eyebrows are way, way up there. I couldn't tell if she was too skinny or not. It wasn't that good of a photo. I will say though that she is starting to look more and more like Bruce Jenner.

AuntieAnn said...

I'm sure Milo can help you out if you need nice thing to say about KK's -)

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Bet she has a rolodex full of them too.

Ex Nurse said...

Peres Hilton has a "sourced story":
“If Jon’s book is published he will have numerous lawsuits against him — and not just from his ex-wife. It’s unfortunate that Jon cannot find peace within himself. The only time he gets press is when he’s either bashing Kate or his children, which is very saddening for the little Gosselins. Kate has moved on from Jon and his antics. At this point she wishes he would be a father to their eight children, instead of selling stories to the tabloids about them. It’s sad that Jon pays ZERO child support and barely sees the children or talks to them, and the kids are old enough now that they acknowledge that and are aware of it. He makes a career off selling sorties to the tabloids about his eight beautiful children.”
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Wonder whether Jon can write a book that will not infringe on his contract with TLC. I don't think that his book will see the light of day. But, this did make me wonder about Robert's announcement some time ago that he was also writing a tell-all book about Jon. Just speculating, but wondering if that was actually Jon's book, changed to a third person narrative so as not to conflict with his TLC contract, which, I am quite sure, included verbiage about not trashing the network or production company.

chefsummer #Leh said...

AuntieAnn said... 6
I'm sure Milo can help you out if you need nice thing to say about KK's -)

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Bet she has a rolodex full of them too.
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More like a filing cabinet-(LOL) she also has to keep all the magazines with KK's on them/

Sandylove said...

Kate is a twit said... 81

Celebrity Yahoo picked up the US Weekly article about CA. I was reading some of the comments, and Kate (and others) are really taking a beating.
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I really loved this one:

"Kate Gosselin is like Herpes. You don't see her for awhile, then all of a sudden she is back and as obnoxious as ever." Ha ha!

If she does CA, I think we'll hear something about her WHILE they're filming the first week, something will leak out, it will be that bad for her and totally out of her element, that's JMO. In past seasons I have seen photos of the contestants online taken during the filming of a job/assignment. And if by some miracle she lasts more then a few days, I can't see her becoming a "Project Manager", no way!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think no matter what Jon says in his book he puts himself at risk of a lawsuit from Kate. She'll sue over anything. Ultimately he would probably win but at what price. He'd have to pay for more expensive lawyers, etc. Books aren't what they used to be, I can't imagine he stands to make very much money from it, so what is the point? If he's doing it to set the record straight, I think he's already had numerous opportunities to do just that already.

Personally I think a book from anyone on this saga, Robert, Jon or anyone, is just so unnecessary at this point. I really don't wonder a bit about Robert's book, or Jon's. In fact I'd rather they not publish because all it does is just stir the pot again. They are just gratuitous at this point. I think sometimes we overcomplicate things and long for all the dirty details that we don't REALLY need to know. We know enough to know how Kate is, what those kids go through and went through, what's going on with Jon, etc. Every last little details is not really adding much to the general picture of what we do know that is unlikely to change. This is a very dysfunctional situation, a book is not going to change how most people see this.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

You know I have no doubt when TFW goes on talk shows they clip on some hair extensions in the dressing room. Clip ons these days are so realistic and easy to use as far as I understand every hair department has a whole arsenal of them and rely on them frequently. Abundant hair is in for some reason. I don't like the look but it's what's popular. That could be why her hair looks so Stepford wifey when she goes on a show, but is a sad limp little mess when she's caught in public.

NJGal51 said...

To continue the theme....

I want long, straight, curly, fuzzy, snaggy, shaggy, ratty, matty
Oily, greasy, fleecy, shining, gleaming, streaming, flaxen, waxen
Knotted, polka dotted, twisted, beaded, braided
Powered, flowered and confettied
Bangled, tangled, spangled and spahettied.
Oh say can you see my eyes
If you can then my hair's too short.

LOL AuntieAnn! Bulldogs can rattle the windows when they snore. When we were stationed in Germany our downstairs neighbor asked if I made my husband sleep on the couch. I thought it an odd question and told her no and asked why she thought that. She said they could hear him snoring through the floor! And that's why our first bully wasn't allowed to sleep in our room! I don't think any of our boys have been quite as loud as him.

Wowser said...

I was just going to say (but Admin beat me to it) that TFW definitely wears clip on hair pieces to make her hair look thicker on these v interviews. You can tell how thin her hair really is in the baseball cap. If it was really thick naturally she would not be able to fit it through the hole in the baseball cap. I know because I have thick long hair.

capecodmama said...

Great recap as usual Admin.

Joy...Awesome basketball this weekend. Sorry your VCU Rams lost. We're UCONN fans and we know the women will go far in the tournament but not so sure about the men.

chef...I agree. TCFW looks much better with shorter hair and about 20 more lbs. on her.

And finally, where the hell is that airplane?!!

fidosmommy said...

She said they could hear him snoring through the floor! And that's why our first bully wasn't allowed to sleep in our room!

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Get that dog a CPAP machine tuit suite! :-)

Over In TFW's County said...

Also, if you are "piecing and patching", that is not usually where you shop. Sometimes there's a deal but usually things are cheaper elsewhere..

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Coupons just came out in the mail. Five dollars off and 20 percent off one item. Gotta use those coupons!

westie said...

Oh My..that photo pf her at BB&B is scary! When I first looked I was trying to find her, never thinking that the one in the ball hat was HER! She looks like a thin guy! OR someone that has been very ill and is just coming out of the house after a very long time in bed. Oh wow. Totally unrecognizable from five years ago.

TLC stinks said...

I disagree, Admin. We are a minority when it comes to knowing the real Kate. Many, many people have no idea how messed up she is.

As far as making money from publishing a book, many people do, and the jackpot is having your book picked up for a movie.

Having said that, I feel Jon should concentrate on obtaining custody of his kids rather than publishing a book. Probably it was cathartic for Jon to write down his feelings and his experiences. It's a good thing to do, I just think it is too soon to make that public. Believe me, Kate will keep providing proof of how unstable she is.

What Jon needs to do because I doubt he is a competent writer, is just take his time and align with a top notch editor from a prominent publisher and come up with a first class book that can be a best seller and tempt someone to produce a movie. To me, this whole saga is begging for a book and movie (if it can be proven Kate is unstable). Yes, she will sue but it will be dismissed as long as Jon's attorneys cover all the bases.

TLC stinks said...

ITA the pic of her in the ball cap proves she wears extensions. She has repeatedly lied about her hair. My hair, shoulder length, would look the same in a ball cap so I am guessing that is her true length. She always has it pulled back in candid photos so I bet it's to hide how thin and short it really is.

Over In TFW's County said...

And finally, where the hell is that airplane?!!

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Evidence is now pointing to hijacking, either by one of the pilots, the flight engineer, or someone on board who knows how to fly that jet, but where is it, and why was it taken over? I would think that they'd have to refuel. You just don't pull a jet into a mom and pop gas station in a remote location and say, "Fill it up."

Over In TFW's County said...

I think that the suggestion of having a book published is going to make her squirm just as much as if it is published. Just sittin and wonderin what's in it, and if it's going to be published and when would aggravate her for months. In her case, not knowing would irritate the heck out of her.

Sister Mary O'Dwindle said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 10
I think no matter what Jon says in his book he puts himself at risk of a lawsuit from Kate.

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Not to mention TLC, which likely scares Jon's lawyer or publisher more than TFW does. Who knows how many 'trade secrets' Jon wants to dish on.

Also, Admin, I know you admonished us not to change our names to fit the situation, but now coz you laid it down, I have to challenge you. I am childish that way.

Love,
Sister Mary O'Dwindle (in the PINK!)

localyocul said...

Sandylove said... 9
Kate is a twit said... 81

Celebrity Yahoo picked up the US Weekly article about CA. I was reading some of the comments, and Kate (and others) are really taking a beating.
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I really loved this one:

"Kate Gosselin is like Herpes. You don't see her for awhile, then all of a sudden she is back and as obnoxious as ever." Ha ha!

If she does CA, I think we'll hear something about her WHILE they're filming the first week, something will leak out, it will be that bad for her and totally out of her element,

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I was thinking the same thing. When Jon was filming CT there were shots of them going out on the town. Not that TFW will have time for that, but I think there will be reports about what is going on during the filming (not just about TFW)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I disagree, Admin. We are a minority when it comes to knowing the real Kate. Many, many people have no idea how messed up she is.


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I think we used to be the minority. Now almost every media outlet when they write about her write in a negative tone. Kate Coyne is almost the only one left who will write fluff pieces, not counting media like the Examiner which can be written by any old fan. Media like Wendi Williams and many others can't stand her. When we look at comments on articles, many of which are made by people giving their real names and don't appear to be involved in following this mess, they're almost all scathing. It took awhile but the public gets it now. There is no reason to keep beating a dead horse, they get it.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Paige C ‏@Paige_Kate8fan 10m
@TLC please bring back Kate plus 8 I miss @Kateplusmy8 and those adorable kiddies who are getting older every day and I'm missing it!!

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Paige! Kids grow up, and they are NOT your kids. You don't need to see them getting older every day. There's nothing to "miss." You are not part of their lives and they are not part of your life.

NJGal51 said...

Happy St. Patrick's Day to all. On this day I've got some sage Irish advice for TFW especially if she's going to be on CA.

You'll never plough a field by turning it over in your mind.

And for the rest of us: May the blessings of each day be the blessings you most need.

Call Me Crazy said...

4.4 earthquake near LA. Admin, I hope you are OK.

foxy said...

How can I open the instagram picture of Kate at BB and Beyond? I have tried but it won't open. Do I need an account?
Thank you.

Blowing In The Wind said...

When I first looked I was trying to find her, never thinking that the one in the ball hat was HER! She looks like a thin guy!

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She looks like a male mannequin, and nothing like the Kate who was on two television shows not long ago. She does not look well at all.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

We're fine. 4.4 is nothing but a garbage truck rolling by. I slept through it, but I did find my dog in his crate in the living room, where he goes when scared, instead of his usual spot in bed.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Yep, waking up to an earthquake is not my idea of fun. Husband says, oh it's a small one and rolls back to sleep. I am wide awake, but it was not bad, just a rolling few minutes. All pictures are still on the walls.

Anonymous said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 30
We're fine. 4.4 is nothing but a garbage truck rolling by.

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I'm sure it destroyed trees at the McMansion.

Sister Mary Margaret O' PJ

westie said...

Foxy, just copy and paste the link into your browser.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Rolling for a few MINUTES? I can't believe I slept through all that. Usually the earthquakes I've been in don't last for more than 10-15 seconds, even the biggest one I've felt which was about 6.0.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 34
Rolling for a few MINUTES? I can't believe I slept through all that. Usually the earthquakes I've been in don't last for more than 10-15 seconds, even the biggest one I've felt which was about 6.0.
March 17, 2014 at 7:27 AM
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The earthquake in VA a few years ago was almost a 6, and it ROLLED!
Freakiest. Thing. Ever.

Call Me Crazy said...

It was my dd's first cali earthquake experience. It shook her awake but no damage.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Well, according to Facebook, I am in the only person in Los Angeles who didn't feel a thing.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Seconds feel like minutes in earthquake time so it's best to consult the scientists for how long it really rolled. :) Like the last big one we all thought whoa that went on forever when really it was only about 10 seconds.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Well, according to Facebook, I am in the only person in Los Angeles who didn't feel a thing.

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This is what rumspringa does to you. You just don't feel a thing.

Sister Mary Brigid O'Bitchy Pants said...

Just popping in to wish everyone a happy St. Patrick's Day and to give you this ancient Celtic blessing:

May the blessing of Light be on you --
Light without and Light within.
May the blessed Sunlight shine on you and warm your heart
till it glows like a great peat fire.


Tucker's Mom said...

That BBB photo of Kate reminds me of when she was caught walking in a parking lot, obviously having recent Botox- her eyebrows looked the same- like they wanted to jump the hell off of her face!
She quickly spewed some bs about a miracle eye cream.
Yeah, right!
How do these things always happen to Kate? How is she just so, so, so special?
HOMs? Check.
De-aging?. Check.
Have 8 kids and your boobs actually get bigger, firmer and perkier? Check!

Hey, Kate, you've GOT to play the lottery! With that kind of luck...

NJGal51 said...

In the BB&B picture she looks like she forgot to put on her good bra becasue the girls seem to be hanging a little low...

Sister Mary Menopause (fanning myself while saying "Is it hot in here or is it just me?"!)

OrangeCrusher1 said...

I am probably exaggerating, since I was asleep - change few minutes to 15-20 seconds. A blip. Still beats winter ice storms. I hope Kate is ok on PA.

wowser said...

the thing about that plane that scares me is that Pakistan had Osama for how many years and yet NO ONE knew where he was or had seen him anywhwere????!!!! makes you wonder if they might not see ...oh say, a plane that was hijacked refueling??? I am nervous that whoever has it is going to put a nuke on it and head it to the United States!

JoyinVirginia said...

Just posting to say Happy Saint Patrick s Day!
Sister Sick O'The Snow and Ice!

FlimsyO'Flamsy said...

There was a quote upthread from a "sourced article" that said, "Kate has moved on from Jon." As far as we know, she hasn't had a single date since the divorce. And Jon is in a committed relationship. But she's the one who's moved on?

And if she's moved on, she sure did a great impression of someone who hasn't when she had her daughters badmouth him in a national magazine and on TV.

grandee4 said...

Happy St Patrick's Day everyone, hope the Irish luck is bestowed on all of you.
OMG, Kate (Sr.Mary Liar or SML) is really going to do CA. Never watched but will this time.
Still recovering from the surgery, the nurse is still making visits.
I am having a hard time with a huge decision I must make in the next few weeks. I cannot return to work for a while and I am struggling with the fact that I may never be able to return to bedside nursing. I just turned 67 and the last 2 months have been extremely hard because I was trying to fight an infection which led to the surgery. Pray daily for answers and to find the best solution to the situation. I love what I do and I'm not one to be home 24/7. I know lots of you here are retired. Open for suggestions. Financially I really need the income but I would be willing to cut back my hours.

Was just watching an old episode of Fraiser and Niles bought a bird, the bird got anxious about something and landed on Niles head, he could not get the bird off. Don't know a lot about having one for a pet but I think it's just a matter of time and Zorro will do the same. hope its not one of the kids. I would find it very amusing if Zorro planted itself on KK's head and chewed all her extensions out, now that would make a great Twitter pic.

Admin, your recaps were great as always, thanks. Can't wait for CA and all those juicy recaps.

Everyone have a wonderful St Patty's Day, parades all last weekend and today. Next weekend it will be Irish Italian parades. Everything is a parade here in The Big Easy.

TLC stinks said...

Also, so much for her de-aging! LOL. I saw some pictures online when everyone on the Today Show went without makeup. It is amazing what makeup and lighting on TV does. It's such a joke when these so-called entertainment reporters gush over Kate's youthful appearance. It's simply not the case. When you see her on a magazine cover or TV, it's an illusion.

The weight loss and years of tanning beds have taken a toll. I don't know if she got bum advice about her appearance from a consultant or she just got a big head and decided she had to have that Hollywood look, but girl, it ain't working for ya!

What shocked me the most was how much her cheeks were sunk in, either from weight loss or another procedure. As much as I disliked her, at least she was fresh faced and pretty in the beginning.

capecodmama said...

foxy...28

I'm having a different problem with instagram with regard to the picture of TCFW at BB&B. When I type in the link that someone posted, instagram tells me the page isn't found. So I went back to make sure I didn't type it wrong and I didn't. Every time I try to get to the picture it tells me the same thing. Page isn't found. What am I doing wrong guys?

Formerly Duped said...

capecodmama:

I think you have to be an Instagram member. I just get the Instagram main page myself.I am just using my imagination from what others have said...bad enough!

grandee: Sorry for your illness and need to make a decision about work. Some nurses work as advisers in a call-in clinic.That might work. Or a dr office, fewer hours and lighter work. Many options for nurses. Maybe talk to your HR person?

Millicent said...

"If there's one lessons we should get out of Jon and Kate's divorce, it's that you have to be careful who you pick for the mother of your children."
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I heartily agree, except that I'd modify it to say "be careful who you pick for a mate" because both men and women should indeed be careful who they procreate with. That other person will be in your life, one way or another, for years to come.

I'm thankful that my son's father is a decent guy. In the past, he has aggravated me greatly, but he and our son have a good relationship, and with the passage of years, we basically have a "live and let live" relationship. We are cordial when our paths cross, and that's good enough for me. I can't imagine what Jon has been through, and what he has to deal with at every turn. I am sure he is counting down the years until the youngest kids turn 18.

And for the person who asked - No, I am not an attorney but I am a legal professional and have been working in the field of civil litigation for over 20 years, in northern California. I started out as a trainee legal secretary, then advanced to office manager, then paralegal. I just wanted to emphasize that although I'm very familiar with the local court system, civil litigation, etc., I am not an attorney.

FYI said...

capecodmama--I don't know why you can't bring up the picture. I just checked, and it is still there. Here is the link again:

http://instagram.com/p/lnj93yI3aI/#

lukebandit said...

This was posted on Facebook this morning by one of my best friends. This post has a similarity to kate.

I prayed that the Lord would speak his Heart to me this morning. I opened a My Daily bible Study for Woman directly to a commentary called Speaking Wisely...TELLING THE TRUTH TO THOSE WHO LOVE THE LIE. The commentary said, At times we may have to STAND and DEFEND God's word and principles to those who do not want to hear it. May we be found in the faithful company of Jeremiah and Baruch, REPORTING THE LORD'S WORDS FAITHFULLY, whatever the price or people's reactions.

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I (Jon) prayed that the Lord would speak His Heart to me this morning. I opened a My Daily bible Study directly to a commentary called Speaking Wisely...TELLING THE TRUTH TO THOSE WHO LOVE TO BELIEVE AND SUPPORTS KATE'S LIES. The commentary said, At times we may have to STAND and DEFEND God's word and principles to those who do not want to hear kates lies are fabricated. May I be found in the faithful company of Jeremiah, Baruch and Tuma REPORTING THAT THE LIARS WORDS ARE LIES, whatever the price or people's reactions.

TLC stinks said...

I use an ipad. The link does not show up as clickable on mine with Google, but I went on Safari and pasted the link in and it worked with the safari search.

lukebandit said...

Remember, kate said she de-ages?

Well, there is a infomercial with Cindy Crawford and they showed pictures of her at 28 and 45? I think it is 2 or 3 years old. She is now 48. She looks incredible for her age, she barely looks like she even aged. But her face screams No cosmetic procedures have invaded my face!

She has used creams from a melon for years and other creams. Compared to kate, she looks 8 years younger and kate looks 8 years older than her. The BBB picture is very bad. Perfect posts. She looks waxen, like a mannequin, a thin small man, someone who just went out after being very ill for a long time.

She has a very paled face. She could at least put base on and powder it.

They said on the internet that there were 21 people on board the missing plane, employees based out of Texas. They were working on energy that would be free. Off grid. They must of had a big breakthrough. Also the plane number is 777. This is a huge symbolism in the Illuminati. Also, the news said that the plane was in Vietnam's airspace. The govt. built landing strips so they could land their planes. But they didn't build one long enough to land the 777. But the guy said they could of built one.

But it wouldn't surprise me that Pakistan could put a nuke bomb on it and send it our way. Google Sen. Graham, Generals and Majors fired or retired over nuclear bomb bases w/Charleston, SC. Very unusual for so many fired and retired. You will not believe why!

chefsummer #Leh said...

capecodmama said... 49

Here's the link try copy and paste into your browser.

http://instagram.com/p/lnj93yI3aI/

Millicent said...

Blowing In The Wind said... 25

Paige C ‏@Paige_Kate8fan 10m
@TLC please bring back Kate plus 8 I miss @Kateplusmy8 and those adorable kiddies who are getting older every day and I'm missing it!!

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Paige! Kids grow up, and they are NOT your kids. You don't need to see them getting older every day. There's nothing to "miss." You are not part of their lives and they are not part of your life.
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It's disturbing to realize that some people just don't get it --- leave the kids alone already, let them live their lives in private. They are not there to provide you with entertainment, fulfill your need to have pretend "kiddies" or otherwise fill some hole in your life. Leave the kids alone already.

Carole said...

How can I open the instagram picture of Kate at BB and Beyond?

highlight the instagram page address, right click to copy it, paste it into the address line of a new window or tab and then hit enter and the pic will appear. Nothing special needed to view it.

Carole said...

... this did make me wonder about Robert's announcement some time ago that he was also writing a tell-all book about Jon. Just speculating, but wondering if that was actually Jon's book,...

I don't think so. Jon first said he was writing a book when he was working w/Dr. Lafair @ 2010. Radaronline and others reported that he was working with her on an autobiography called, "A Slice Of Life: Jon Gosselin's Story." I assumed the book he refers to now talking about his feelings, etc is the same one. I just can't see him writing 2. Or maybe he did.
http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2010/07/jon-gosselin-gets-a-life-coach-writes-an-autobiography.html

Irish Grandma said...

For those of us (like Kate) that shop at Bed, Bath and Beyond, their coupons never expire. Can be used anytime.

Again, happy St. Paddy's day, NOT St. Patty's day!

Math Girl said...

capecodmama said... 49

When I type in the link that someone posted, instagram tells me the page isn't found.
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In the "random numbers and letters" part of the link, there are three letter that could be either a lowercase l (ell) or an uppercase I (eye). The first one is an ell and the last two are eyes. The only way I could tell was by using my find function and changing between ells and upper-eyes.

That's why cut-and-paste works best, if you can do it.

By the way, the similar appearance between a lower-ell and and upper-eye is exploited by people on twitter who make a phony id that looks like an existing one (for example, milo's).

Carole said...

You know I have no doubt when TFW goes on talk shows they clip on some hair extensions in the dressing room.

Without a doubt! The hair we see on her in everyday pics is much too thin, yet when she's on tv it's thick and full of body. TFW twists the truth when she says she got rid of her extensions years ago. Sure, she got rid of the permanent ones when she was growing out her hair, but she still uses the temp ones when she makes appearances. She's not really lying but she's not being fully truthful either - a specialty of hers.

Carole said...

I saw the photo and she looks to me like she has had more botox on her forehead because her eyebrows are way, way up there.

I was flipping channels a few weeks ago and caught part of a show where someone talked about helping a friend who had one eyebrow 'drop' after a recent botox treatment failed (sounded like it was a fairly common occurrence). She gave her some type of electric stimulation treatment to bring the eyebrow back up so they both matched again. That show and reading this comment reminded me of the pic of TFW where her eyebrows were WAY too high - looking like a recent botox treatment gone bad.

Kelly said...

Admin, I totally agree regarding the publishing of any further books. Enough. I believe most people know exactly what TFW is and the one's who refuse to see, will forever be blind. Let them remain in their minority, in the dark, where they belong.

capecodmama, I KNOW! I'm wondering if the next article about it's whereabouts will mention aliens. My daughter's combing every conspiracy website and is updating me at least once a day. I told her if she breaks out the aluminum foil and fashions herself a hat, I'll have to block her texts ;)

NJGal51 said...

Lukebandit - an infomercial is trying to sell a product so they're going to show the star in the best light. Photoshopping, good lighting, etc. Cindy Crawford looks as good as she does because she's a natural beauty but I'm sure she's also got a really good plastic surgeon. If they were to show Cindy as she looks without makeup first thing in the morning she probably wouldn't sell much product. Yes, she looks better than TFW but there is no miracle cream, it's all smoke and mirrors.

Call Me Crazy said...

I think you have to be an Instagram member. I just get the Instagram main page myself.
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I am not an Instagram member, but I can see the photo. Maybe it is a browser issue.

grandee - I am so sorry for your health issues and the difficult decision ahead. As time goes on and your health improves, you may find you are able to work a lighter schedule. I hope everything works out well for you.

Lalalalala said...

Lukebandit said 54

Cindy Crawford HAS had procedures done and she admits it.

http://surgerybeforeafter.com/cindy-crawford-plastic-surgery/

AuntieAnn said...

Happy St. Patrick's Day everyone.

As you slide down the banister of life,
May the splinters never point in the wrong direction.

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For those of you who can't see the instagram of her royal hiney, this is an amalgam of the remarks about it made here;

She looks like a half-doped skinny Bruce Jenner-ish, older than her years mannequin with thin, bleached, overworked hair fixed in a messy bun sticking out of a baseball cap, whose girls are hangin' too low and whose eyebrows are about to jump off her face.

Get the picture? Yep, it's Kate alright.

fidosmommy said...

It is rumored that Cindy Crawford has had plastic surgery. Whether she has or has not is immaterial to me, but either way, she is stunning. Her eyes! She probably eats more than a thimbleful of salad in a day's time, too. She looks healthy.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

",,,overworked hair fixed in a messy bun sticking out of a baseball cap, whose girls are hangin' too low and whose eyebrows are about to jump off her face."

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I was going to comment on "the girls," but thought that subject has already been milked to death on here! Why are they so low? I was thinking about posting as "Two Hung Low," and then remembered Admin's request!

Dina Susan Buno ‏@dinabuno 5h
@angelinamarien @Kateplusmy8 Me too Big fan of Kate .Please do a tv show or cartoon .Your so beautiful.

Kate *is* a cartoon. Beautiful? Guess this person didn't see the Instagram!

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

If they were to show Cindy as she looks without makeup first thing in the morning she probably wouldn't sell much product.

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That's been done somewhere...I think it was one one of those tab sites, or Huff Post. Stars with and without makeup. You'd never know it was Cindy Crawford.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

I think you have to be an Instagram member. I just get the Instagram main page myself.I am just using my imagination from what others have said...bad enough!

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I don't have instagram. I copied and pasted the link and it worked fine. Perhaps I shouldn't have. I really didn't need to see that.

Ex Nurse said...

Grandee--
Maybe you're employer can have some flexibility for your job duties. If you love your job, then I think it is worthwhile to stay if at all possible. There were things I couldn't do during my pregnancy--I worked up until delivery. You have so much knowledge and experience, it would be a loss to the nursing team and your patients if you leave before it is absolutely neccessary. There will probably come a day when you will want to retire.

Leprechaun Lynne In RI said...

We're all Irish today!

I didn't recognize that person as being Kate. It really does looks Bruce Jenner-ish. If it's Kate, at least she's not tanning anymore, and that's a good thing. She needs to put some meat on her bones and get those eyebrows back down on her face where they belong.

AuntieAnn said...

Oops. I should have said over-processed hair, not overworked. Her kids are overworked, not her hair.

Leprechaun Lynne In RI said...

Wowser, 44: "the thing about that plane that scares me is that Pakistan had Osama for how many years and yet NO ONE knew where he was or had seen him anywhwere????!!!!"


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I need reading glasses. I thought this said, "Pakistan had Obama for how many years and yet NO ONE knew where he was..."

I wonder if the mystery of the plane is ever going to be solved, or if it's going to go down into those unsolved intelligence files. I can't imagine what it must be like for the families of those on the flight...not being able to have closure, and clinging to the hope that it landed somewhere.

Millicent said...

Lalalalala said... 67
Cindy Crawford HAS had procedures done and she admits it.
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I wonder if she mentions that during her infomercials though. I have never watched one all the way through, but they pop on fairly regularly. The overall theme seems to be "try this amazing formula that Cindy Crawford uses, because see how great she looks!" And then people buy her skin care products thinking that they'll look as youthful as Crawford, when that's not possible without plastic surgery.

However, I will say that she obviously selected a good surgeon, and they achieved a more natural effect than many others I've seen.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Oops. I should have said over-processed hair, not overworked. Her kids are overworked, not her hair.

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If her hair is overworked, then it's the only part of her that has been working.

I'm watching UFO Hunters, and while I am not into conspiracy theories, I really wonder about this missing plane. What if "they" really do know where it is, and have received demands from hijackers, but aren't releasing any information at all because it would scare the bejesus out of us (and other countries) and cause wide-spread panic? I find it hard to believe that they are releasing everything they know about this disappearance.

"That BBB photo of Kate reminds me of when she was caught walking in a parking lot, obviously having recent Botox- her eyebrows looked the same- like they wanted to jump the hell off of her face!"

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The Star Trek Mr. Spock photo? That was such a hoot. I would have worn sunglasses until those things came back to earth.

capecodmama said...

Math Girl...61

That was the exact reason why I couldn't see the picture. I typed all three as l's and not the first one l and the last two uppercase I's. Once I did that, the picture came up. Scary. She is aging not deaging.



Bitchy Pants said...

Grandee -- Sorry you are facing a tough decision re work. Do you enjoy paperwork? If you do, there are nurse consultant positions with insurance companies, workers' compensation, or state disability agencies. With some of them, you can work as few or as many hours as you like. There are also "ask a nurse" hotlines that might interest you.

thuvia said...

Just wanted to comment about dogs in the house: a eon ago when I was still married to a dairy farmer we had a sweetheart Border Collie who was strictly a barn dog. He would come in the house if the kids bribed him with food, but as soon as it was eaten he was at the back door wanting out. I was working second shift at the time and he would greet me when I came out of the garage and walk me to the house and return to the barn. Guess the cows were his pack.

Leprechaun Lynne In RI said...

The plane.

Here's a link to a good synopsis of what's happened so far:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/17/world/asia/malaysia-plane-up-to-speed/

Lalalalala said...

Millicent said... 77

Lalalalala said... 67

I always check out product reviews and I went on the net after I saw her infomercial. The reviews on this product are horrible. From what I saw, this beauty product doesn't do what it promises and the customer service sucks.

Dwindle said...

OK, I broke down and clicked on the picture.

She looks like a corpse. And also like her teeth are about to pop right out of her shrunken decaying face.

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. So sad that she makes herself so freakish.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Fraudulent infomercials can apparently turn around an bite the fraud in the arse.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-kevin-trudeau-sentenced-20140317,0,832577.story

Over In TFW's County said...

Irish Grandma said... 60
For those of us (like Kate) that shop at Bed, Bath and Beyond, their coupons never expire. Can be used anytime.

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The ones I just received in the mail have a 4/21 expiration date. I checked to make sure I don't forget about them. Perhaps the ones you can print online, or use to order online don't expire.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It's true, their coupons never expire even though they have dates printed on them. I've taken coupons to them over a year old and they take them happily, no questions asked.

FlimsyO'Flamsy said...

About the BBB coupons, it seems to be an unwritten rule that they'll accept expired ones. I think the date is just to get you in faster.

Remember when TFW threatened to shoot Jon when he'd purchased a shower head without a coupon? Gosh, he must miss that loving presence in his life. Too bad he hasn't "moved on," like TFW...

LaLaLandNoMore said...

My question is: What could possibly be a justifiable reason to "waive" child support when a person has 8 kids to take care of? Total control perhaps? It doesn't make sense to me and I have never in my years on earth ever heard of it. Men and women both pay child support these days, no matter what the amount.

Over In TFW's County said...

About the BBB coupons, it seems to be an unwritten rule that they'll accept expired ones. I think the date is just to get you in faster.

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You could be right, but I guess the store where I shop doesn't know about it. I tried to purchase a gift at Christmas and the coupon had expired. There was no way I could talk them into accepting it. However, the woman in back of me had current coupons and gave one to me. No, I didn't take a photo of her act of kindness. Kate hadn't announced her contest at that point.

Tucker's Mom said...

The expiration date on the BBB coupons don't matter- no idea why they even print dates since they take them after.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I would ask to speak to the manager about that TFW. I'm telling you they don't care about the date, and I have been to half a dozen of these places. I never buy a thing from them without digging out an old coupon and never once had a problem. If the manager still says no, email corporate.

Tucker's Mom said...

Someone at BBB isn't with the program. I never go without my coupons and you can stack them- use as many as you want.
I usually don't waste the coupons on piddly items, though.

Carole said...

You could be right, but I guess the store where I shop doesn't know about it.

Over in TFW's County, If you do a lot of shopping at BB&B it might be worth a call or email to their corporate customer service to clarify the coupon date question for your local store. I've been told that it is a company policy to accept coupons regardless of the date and I've personally used expired coupons in their stores in 3 states and multiple locations.

Formerly Duped said...

OT but parent-related: What so you ladies think od Gwen Stefani letting her son wear makeup, nailpolish and tutus/Shiloh Joile-Pitt dressing as a boy named John? Are these kids really transgender, playing in costumes or is it a trend?? If they are transgender, fine, but it seems very young to me!

AuntieAnn said...

Dwindle said... 84

She looks like a corpse. And also like her teeth are about to pop right out of her shrunken decaying face.

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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teehee.

Time to quit messing around with botox and unhealthy dieting when you start to look like Bruce Jenner. Or is he starting to look like her?
Oh geez. I think I need an Bailey's Irish rumspringa.

Math Girl said...

capecodmama said... 79

I tried to see if I could change the font on the text. In some fonts, it's easy to tell a lower ell from a cap I (eye). I didn't manage to change the font, but I did manage to have the computer read to me! In Safari, I highlighted some text, pulled down the edit menu, selected speech, then selected start speaking, and the computer read the text to me! He sounds a bit robotic, but was pretty understandable.

He read the link correctly (could tell ells from eyes). He had a really cute mispronunciation of instragram (didn't spell it, but put the emphasis on the second syllable instead of the first). But not bad for a robot.

Don't know if this is available in other browsers, but it is fun to play with, and it does help in deciphering a string of characters!

Wowser said...

Careful ladies: you KNOW that TFW reads here. Most women would be offended if you compared them to a mannequin, said they were too thin and that they looked like Bruce Jenner.....but NOT TFW....she thinks you are complimenting her and telling her she is the next best thing to being a Kardashian....her role models and the people she aspires to be!

Sherry Baby said...


Time to quit messing around with botox and unhealthy dieting when you start to look like Bruce Jenner.

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Combo of Bruce Jenner and Sally Jessy. Very strange.

Math Girl said...

Leprechaun Lynne In RI said... 82
The plane.

Here's a link to a good synopsis of what's happened so far:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/17/world/asia/malaysia-plane-up-to-speed/
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That was/is a good article. Just one clarification - ACARS only sends signals once an hour or so, so they don't know exactly when it was turned off.

Here is an older article (Mar 9) giving a list of reasons planes can disappear. It's interesting because the "probable" cause, as reported on the news, has gone through several items on the list.

chefsummer #Leh said...

All of you guy are just jealous that you can't pull of the unwashed mannequin look like KK can't,-(LOL

Sherry Baby said...

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@NaughtyNiceRob Jon said he & Kate DON'T TALK! Looks like he & @DrJennBerman LIED & FAKED #couplestherapy

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I think I'd be careful about coming out and saying that Dr. Jenn lied and faked a show. Very careful.

I know that some of these sheep aren't the sharpest tools in the shed, but not to know that this borders on libel really doesn't require an Einstein to figure it out.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

You know it's sad that the reality is she looks like a lot of celebs without makeup. Especially the ones who have tried to compensate for their inadequacies and insecurities with unhealthy dieting, botox, surgery, and messing with their hair until it's damaged beyond repair. There is tremendous pressure to conform to a certain look in Hollywood and Kate doesn't have anything close to the confidence and self esteem to not fall prey to it. It is my opinion that celebs who look more normal and natural without makeup are those much more confident and stable. Meryl Streep for one, who just looks like any normal 60 something woman.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Oh another thing about Bed Bath in Beyond, their return policy is great. I brought in a space heater at least a few years old that suddenly broke, I still had my receipt, and I said look I'm not expecting a refund or anything, I was just wondering if I could get maybe a little store credit since I barely used this thing in L.A. and it bit the dust after only two season. They took the space heater and without even testing it to be sure it didn't work, they just took my word for it and said no problem just go pick out another one. No charge. Unbelievable, right?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think I'd be careful about coming out and saying that Dr. Jenn lied and faked a show. Very careful.

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Yes exactly. I'm not sure why this phone call is so darn hard for them to understand. I believe both Jon and Kate that in GENERAL they don't talk on the phone. But this was a special situation where he would be out of town for several weeks and needed to speak with his children on the phone, so he had to call. You can't really text a 10 year old and expect anything meaningful from it. It was an exception to the rule, a reasonable one at that. I don't understand why they can't wrap their minds around an exception. I'm sure as soon as Jon was back in town they were back to texting. Good grief.

PA Dutch Mom said...

OT -- editorial for admin...

http://lancasteronline.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-penn-state-is-turning-a-corner-do-you-agree/article_675c016e-add5-11e3-9bb0-0017a43b2370.html

Over And Out said...

I guess I will never understand the hypocrisy of the sheeple.

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Donna Squires ‏@dms1958
@chelywright @l_c_spencer3 lcspencer -
you are so ignorant

Donna Squires ‏@dms1958
@Sassccha @Kateplusmy8 I agree. But we are not put on this earth to judge others

Donna Squires ‏@dms1958
@mscatie @Sassccha @Kateplusmy8 I am not judging - never called anyone names or was not negative, just making a comment

Craziness said...

@Fly_On_TheWall to @PopCulturePsyck Ever think about doing one of Jon Gosselin? See if he's lying about things.

So a sheep is even trying to get a so-called "psychic" to do a reading on Jon ... the sheep wants the psychic to bust him for lying too ... smh.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

It's amazing how strung out the poor sheeple get over "Jon lying" even though a licensed therapist bound by ethical duties to be honest explained to them he certainly was not lying. Yet Kate has been proven, time and time again, to tell bountiful lies. You don't see a "hater" freaking out over her lies. At this point it's just like well there goes Kate again, lying once again.

Math Girl said...

Math Girl said... 100

Oops. forgot the link. Here it is:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/why-malaysia-airlines-jet-might-have-disappeared-1.2565893

FlimsyO'Flamsy said...

Admin, I agree how easy it is for the fans to look the other way about TFW's lying. Take the whole organic thing as one example. She presented herself as someone who strove to only give her family organic food, that they never ate fast food, that they wouldn't know a Dorito if it poked them in the eye. But there's video evidence from her own show that disputed this. We've seen pictures of the inside of her fridge, with packaged cookie dough. Even her own coffee preference - artificial sweetener and chemical-laden creamer - contradicts her diligence about the health-conscious path she never wavers from.

lukebandit said...

All this talk about her upward eyebrows! lol

Who knows what TCFW's Time Line tomorrow brings
In kate's world, kate and Milo hearts survive
All kate knows is the way Milo feels
When it's a tweet, kate and Milo keep it alive

The road is long, there are windows in "our" way
But I stare, a long stare through them every day

Botox lift my eyebrows up where they belong
Where the eagles fly above a mountain high
Botox lift my eyebrows up where the belong
Far from the world we know, where Milo in my ears she blow

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Donna Squires ‏@dms1958
@chelywright @l_c_spencer3 lcspencer -
you are so ignorant
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The above tweet is from Oct 8, 2012. You're making it look like it's part of an ongoing conversation with the haters.

Over And Out said...

The above tweet is from Oct 8, 2012. You're making it look like it's part of an ongoing conversation with the haters.

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That was not my intention. I didn't look at the date. I'm really sorry...apologies! I did an oops.

However, does it matter if it was tweeted five ago years ago or yesterday? The person was tweeting that judgments shouldn't be made, walking in another person's shoes, etc., and that she/he, NEVER called anyone names, when it's right there in black and white. Hasn't this been the MO of the sheeple? Do as I say, not as I do?

Jane said...

Things that make you go hmmmmm....


davidclayman
@Kateplusmy8 Are you at Clyde's tower oaks? #starstruck
28 min ago from Twitter for iPhone

Google tells us that this is a restaurant in Rockville MD

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

However, does it matter if it was tweeted five ago years ago or yesterday?
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Perhaps, perhaps not. For me it matters that it didn't pertain to the tweets going on at the time. Perhaps that person is a real hypocrite. I didn't read down her timeline. I shouldn't have said you "made" it look.... It's clear you weren't aware of the time that the tweet was made. I apologize for that.

AuntieAnn said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 103

It is my opinion that celebs who look more normal and natural without makeup are those much more confident and stable.

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That's one thing Kate had going for her when she first appeared on tv. She had a fresh, natural look and was quite attractive without a lot of makeup. She should have stayed with that image.

(OMG Chef, stop me. That's the second nice thing I've said about her in two days.)

Over And Out said...

The sheeple can't get past the idea that Kate would deny Jon the chance to talk to his kids. They are hell bent on proving that this never happened. Kate would never do that, they claim, she's the quintessential June Cleaver, the Mother of all Mothers and if she really did deny Jon access to his children it would really knock her down more than just a few pegs. Sheeple can't have that. They'd have the proverbial egg all over their faces, and getting those yolks out of wool can be a real pain.

They won't let it go. Bring in the psychics. If that fails, hire the guy who uses the Psychological Stress Evaluator (pse) to determine if Jon was lying. If that doesn't work, there's always waterboarding.

Kelly said...

Formerly, I'll try to give my opinion on Stefani's boys & Shiloh with as much restraint as I can muster. To sum it up, I believe it's the Hollyweird leaking into the next generation. Look up Gavin's pictures with his former boyfriend from around 20 years ago. It also bugs me that she's been bleaching her kids' hair since they were toddlers. As far as Angelina..at times I think she's certifiable and I feel sorry for Brad's Mom.

I wish I hadn't clicked on the pic of TFW shopping. She does look like a corpse. I wonder what she'll do when she can no longer depend on professional hair & makeup maestros to work their magic? Only people with money can ravage their bodies with eating disorders and repeated cosmetic surgeries because they can pay for a stylist and professional groomers.

I'm too lazy to proofread this and I hate typing on my tablet so advance apologies for rambling sentences & butchery of basic grammar. My Demon Seed is up from his one hour nap & is looking for a new electrical cord to mouth. The dog is gonna kill me! I asked my husband if we could send him to military school for six months. I'm still waiting on an answer but tomorrow while my daughter pup sits, I'm off to Petland for a corral or playard before he electrocutes himself and I have a nervous breakdown.

chefsummer #Leh said...

AuntieAnn said... 116

AA step away from Rumspringa you have had enough..LOL

But you're right Kate was very cute looking during J&K days even the early days of K+8 afterword boy she went fast downhill in her hooker shoes.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

and if she really did deny Jon access to his children it would really knock her down more than just a few pegs. Sheeple can't have that. They'd have the proverbial egg all over their faces, and getting those yolks out of wool can be a real pain.

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I also think they don't want to believe this because it just proves our point, that she is a parental alienator of the worst time and would even stoop so low as to refuse to allow Jon to speak to his children when he is out of town. They can't stand that we were right all along: she is a vicious, vengeful, evil parental alienator. We had a point, have had a point for more than three years, and they can't stand that. Instead, shouldn't we worry less about whose point was proven or not, and just all be team kids?

AuntieAnn said...

She does look like a corpse. I wonder what she'll do when she can no longer depend on professional hair & makeup maestros to work their magic?

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I'm sure The Walking Dead is always hiring extras.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Only people with money can ravage their bodies with eating disorders and repeated cosmetic surgeries because they can pay for a stylist and professional groomers.

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Wouldn't BBFs like Deanna do it for free?

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Sorry. Make that BFFs. AuntieAnn and I were hitting the Irish rumspringa really hard tonight!

Sleepless In Seattle said...

So a sheep is even trying to get a so-called "psychic" to do a reading on Jon ... the sheep wants the psychic to bust him for lying too ... smh.

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Does the fan also ask the psychic to find the missing plane?
What about the lottery numbers for tomorrow? I'd really be interested in those.

lukebandit said...

http://preview.tinyurl.com/kbf6tgr

Judge Dip Waldrip denied the Church of Scientology’s ANTI-SLAAP motion, which would have resulted in the lawsuit ultimately dismissed.

The Rathburn's were tortured by COS for years and would have not sued if they would of just left them alone. COS, they are abominable.

NJGal51 said...

Oh Kelly the joys of a bulldog puppy. It can be a test of wills! We had the best ever corral for ours. I think we got it at Target. It's heavy steel and can be shaped in to a circle, rectangle or can be used straight or in a semi circle to block of a room (or protect the Christmas tree). It wasn't cheap but was worth every penny because he couldn't "bull" his way out of it.

AuntieAnn said...

And we promise we'll stop when the only thing left to crack open is a bottle of Irish Springa bodywash.

grandee4 said...

Thanks Ex Nurse, Dubed, Bitchy Pants and anyone else for all the great suggestions on alternative positions for nurses.
I am on Short Term disability right now and they will extend every month if needed. It is no where close to my salary but every little bit helps.
I work for a Long Term Acute hospital here in Slidell, La. its 5 minutes from home and I love it. We only have 1 hospital and another 40 miles away in Bogalusa, La. Most of the hospitals and our Corp office is in Lafayette, La. (my son, his wife and 3 grandkids live there. ).
There is no light duty for my position as a staff nurse. I filled out the papers for Family Medical Leave and I can stay out 3 months without losing my position. It's all very overwhelming and I am trying to take each day as it happens.
You all have been so helpful and I love the support. You have kept me occupied since my hospitalization. Even have the time to read all the post now and chime in more. For that I thank each and every one of you.
Irish G, sorry for spelling of St Paddy's but here in the deep south it is spelled Patty most of the time. When I saw your post I thought geez, how can that be, lol. Picked up one of our local papers and was reading about the good times over the weekend and there it was, Happy St Pattys Day. Different strokes for different folks. Hope everyone had a great day. I decided about 3pm that I wanted to make some cabbage, so off to the store I go, wobbly on my right leg and came home to cook. It was delicious. Maybe if KK needs suggestions for her next crookbook, I just may be able to help her out. NOT!!!!!

Bitchy Pants said...

Kelly, instead of a corral and playyard, have you considered trying cord covers to prevent your pup from electrocuting himself? A lot of cat breeders I know use them to prevent kittens from munching on power cords. You can go to a Home Depot or Lowes or maybe even BB&B and buy the inexpensive plastic covers that are made to go over shower curtain rods. Just thread the cords through the covers and cut the covers off to size. You can even color coordinate with your room decor. They work beautifully. The covers made for computer power cords work well, too.

fidosmommy said...

My friend sprayed bitter apple oil on electrical cords when her kitten started chewing on them. It's available at Walmart in the pet dept. Follow the simple directions and it should help. And it's not expensive.

Her cat took one lick and the problem was solved. Ick!

Dmasy said...

Grandee4, I certainly do wish you the very best recovery. Take care.

TLC stinks said...

Kate has been relatively quiet on Twitter recently. As is her pattern, she is probably not home and then there's that random tweet about a sighting at a Rockville restaurant. I wish this person was aware of the speculation about her and Steve because it would add to the confirmation they are a couple. There is no way she was alone at that restaurant. Of course, it could have been a Kate look alike but I doubt it.

Tucker's Mom said...

I tend to believe someone saw Kate at Clyde's- quite specific. Not like spotting her at a ubiquitous Micky D's.
Apparently, Kate spends quite a bit of time in MD. Of course, it could be business and pleasure. At any rate, it's an excuse to leave the compound.
Except, wasn't this Sunday night? Because, that's rather odd if it's business.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 21m
Good Early Morning! Back to school following spring break. Alexis said 'I wish it could be spring break everyday'-->I'm w/ her! #schooldays
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I've never seen a mother bitch, moan and complain about school so much.
Children, yes, but parents usually kick their kids in the butt and say "suck it up, buttercup".
Oh, then the parents to to work, whereas, Kate goes back to bed.

Blowing In The Wind said...

So a sheep is even trying to get a so-called "psychic" to do a reading on Jon ... the sheep wants the psychic to bust him for lying too ... smh.

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Does the fan also ask the psychic to find the missing plane?
What about the lottery numbers for tomorrow? I'd really be interested in those.
March 17

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What is the psychic's name, e-mail address? The 400 million mega will be chosen tonight.

Blowing In The Wind said...

I wish this person was aware of the speculation about her and Steve because it would add to the confirmation they are a couple. There is no way she was alone at that restaurant.

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Was there anything said about Steve being there? If so, maybe Gina was with them, and/or his children. I don't see that it adds confirmation that she and Steve are a couple. We don't know if it really was Kate, why she was there (if she was) or who she was with.

Tucker's Mom said...

Was there anything said about Steve being there? If so, maybe Gina was with them, and/or his children. I don't see that it adds confirmation that she and Steve are a couple. We don't know if it really was Kate, why she was there (if she was) or who she was with.
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Hmm...Kate's spotted in MD and suddenly we get the "I'm up first thing in the morning" post, reminding everyone she's getting the kiddies off to school.

When does CA film?

Formerly Duped said...

This cast of CA does not seem very full of celebrities. Former athletes, ex-reality show personalities, former child actress, some who never really made it big. If I were a viewer I think I'd be bored!

Tucker's Mom said...

Formerly Duped said... 139
This cast of CA does not seem very full of celebrities. Former athletes, ex-reality show personalities, former child actress, some who never really made it big. If I were a viewer I think I'd be bored!
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It's not just Kate, I think most of the cast is "yawn".
I don't watch CA a whole lot, and even with Kate on, I just find the thought of watching so boring.
Unless the cameras catch Steve and Kate skulking around he hallways at night ;-)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I don't think it's a boring show at all. I think it's the best reality show out there next to Amazing Race. It kind of doesn't matter whether you know the celebs, it's just more about the guilty pleasure of watching 20 odd people with egos the size of Texas put together in a room and told to accomplish certain tasks. It's just entertaining. It is not a show that sinks or swims based on whether you know who the celebs are. I don't follow country music whatsoever and they often have country singers on, but I've enjoyed getting to know some of those people. I think a show like DWTS is more dependent on the audience kind of having an idea who the celeb is.

TLC stinks said...

She could have returned home to be up this morning.

Mel said...

Hmm...Kate's spotted in MD and suddenly we get the "I'm up first thing in the morning" post, reminding everyone she's getting the kiddies off to school.

Her typical mo when someone's too close to the truth or she's been busted not being at home.
Deflect with something vague about the kids.

Alexis said....(over the phone) or (last year) or (the first day of spring break) or (to the nanny who repeated it to TFW)...I wish it was spring break every day.

There was no indication that TFW was actually AT home when this was said. Or that it was said today, or that it was said to *her*...it was just implied that it was said today, at home, to TFW.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Alexis also spent a fair portion of her spring break with her father, at least since Thursday according to Jon's phone call. Maybe they did something fun. Maybe that's why she doesn't want Spring Break to end.

Suck it Kate.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kelly- we're having good luck with our dog "corrals", or pens as we call them.
We bought one, then another one for the lower level AND a 4-panel gate with swing open door.
The cost has been so, so worth the peace of mind, with 2 other adult dogs in the house, and the pens keep him safe.

The St. Paddy snow is another story! I look out at my deck and want to cry looking at 8 inches of snow piled up.
It takes no time at all for my puppy to get his whole underbelly and face to be covered in ice balls!
Weary doesn't begin to describe it, and I'm a snow lover.
Just checked- Spring is 2 days away and it's 35 degrees here.

Thanks for the vent!

Kelly said...

Sleepless In Seattle said... 123
Only people with money can ravage their bodies with eating disorders and repeated cosmetic surgeries because they can pay for a stylist and professional groomers.

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Wouldn't BBFs like Deanna do it for free?

I don't think Deanna will still be around in five years' time performing her services for free, but then again I didn't think TFW would still be circling the drain. I've been wrong many times in regards to her staying power. sigh.

NJGal51, it seems like the last time I had a bulldog pup it was easier. But then again, everything was probably easier ten years ago ;) Rudy is younger than Win was when we got him so maybe that has something to do with it. He also believes he's a ninja-spider monkey bulldog. He hunches down and waits for our poor old boxer to walk past and then literally springs at the poor old boy. LOL Who could have guessed that eighteen inches and twelve and half pounds could fly? I've spent the morning trying to find the type of corral you mentioned. My target doesn't carry it, neither does Walmart. Petland does but of course is much more expensive and I'd have to drive twice as far. We've got baby gates on nearly every doorway but I literally cannot turn my back on the monkey for a minute and he's into something. I tried tucking the cords up but caught him pawing the surround sound wires out yesterday when I left him for thirty seconds. I think I'll have to drive and pay more to get the corral today. Thank you so much for the help and suggestions.

Bitchy, I've never heard of covers but I'm going to text my husband and see what he thinks. Thank you so much! As stated above, I've gotta do something or I will lose what is left of my mind. ;) Good thing he's so freaking adorable.

I haven't had the time to read up here so hopefully will get the chance soon.Thank goodness I'm officially on vacation. Hope everyone is well and Meagler got more good news.

Jane said...

TLC stinks said... 142
She could have returned home to be up this morning.
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Wasnt there something else show-related in this area at one time? A production company, Steve's business? For some reason, it seems familiar.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 144
Alexis also spent a fair portion of her spring break with her father, at least since Thursday according to Jon's phone call
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I sure hope the six spent half their break with Jon- that's fair.
I hope Jon can get some help with the twins.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I doubt Deanna works for free, all the tools a makeup artists needs are very expensive not to mention the travel. What I do think though is that Kate writes her into her contract whenever she uses her. For instance for the People photoshoot, she would simply specify that People is to retain Deanna for X amount to be paid by People.

This is common. I worked for a stylist who, with the rare exception the studio didn't want her, was always attached to the same celebs. But I don't think she ever saw an actual paycheck signed by those celebs. They always finagled it so that other people would pay. It's very clever.

grandee4 said...

Thanks Dmasy hopefully it's better everyday.

I still cannot see the pic of KK at BBB, any other suggestions?

Bill and Giuliana Rancic are starting a new season of their show. Yesterday they were showing previews and OMG G is extremely thin. Her arms look like sticks. She is really looking like if she does not stop now, her fate could be the same as Karen Carpenter.
It seems like whoever is dressing her for E news is constantly putting her in sleeveless tops with low neck line that show bony upper chest/neck area and her face is so sunken in, she looks like a corpse.
I like them and I was so sad when she had to undergo a total mastectomy all during the time that should have been exciting for them.

One thing that helped was that this was discovered during her struggle to conceive. If she had not been doing that, it could have turned out much worse.

The same with the Little Couple, I love Bill and Jen. Her entire life was a struggle and with her positive attitude and intelligence, she has become one of the best Neo MD's in the Houston area.

As far as both the couples, I feel the same about putting their children on TV but I think they all have a storyline that may help others going through the same thing. Kate had an interesting storyline as well but it started out from the beginning as a scam. Her dream, and only her dream. Jon was simply there to do her dirty work.

Not even going to get into the Duggars, they have lost it completely. Liked them up until the tragic miscarriage filming of services.

I wish nothing but the best for all these couples and their families.

Millicent said...

Formerly Duped said... 95

OT but parent-related: What so you ladies think od Gwen Stefani letting her son wear makeup, nailpolish and tutus/Shiloh Joile-Pitt dressing as a boy named John? Are these kids really transgender, playing in costumes or is it a trend?? If they are transgender, fine, but it seems very young to me!
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I think that both moms are probably accommodating their child's wishes as to what they want to wear, how they want to be addressed, etc. Instead of making them conform to a societal norm, they are letting them be themselves and not making a big deal of it.

I think both these ladies seem to be very involved and loving mothers.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Oh the most insane, IMO, thing I ever saw was celeb's contract with a well known department store, and she got them to pay for her stylist.

I'm not talking about just when she traveled or was on business for the store. I'm talking she got them to pay stylists's 9-5 salary, Monday through Friday, 52 weeks a year. She certainly was NOT doing things that had to do with the Department store, she would do things like pick the kids up from school when the nanny was sick or buy some bathing suits for the kids for their upcoming trip!

Something seemed so wrong about that. I found this rather unbelievable. But it's true, I used to have to sort the mail and emails and saw the paperwork.

Kelly said...

I forgot to add something to my previous comment. I did read about Admin's pup having to be put down and had a comment ready to go and somehow deleted it before posting. I am so sorry for your friend Admin, how absolutely horrific. When I took Rudy for his first vet visit, his new vet said his dog died of an intestinal blockage (from a toy) and it took them eight years to get over it and finally get another pup. I think the only reason they did is that they had their first child. So you gave very good and important advice about toys and the unbelievable damage they can cause.

We ended up picking Rudy up at 5 a.m. on the 13th. We were supposed to get him the evening before but had a wicked snowstorm come through and the driver had to stop for the night in Ohio. Anyway, I had the carrier etc. all ready in the vehicle we were supposed to take but ended up having to take a different one because of the change of time for pickup. I had to hold him on my lap with a blanket. He was jumping and chewing and pawed a stud earring out of my ear. I forgot I was wearing them or would have removed them before going to pick him up. Anyway, I flipped out, had my husband stop right there (off the expressway), turn on the dome light and thank God I found it on the floor mat. If he'd swallowed that stud earring, I'd hate to think of what would have happened. He was also after the buttons on my coat. So yeah, they're just like toddlers and things you wouldn't think you have to worry about, you do.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I don't follow Gwen Stephani but I loosely follow the Pitt-Jolie situation and from what I understand Shiloh's grandmother has tried to buy her dresses and things and Shiloh doesn't want them. She has two big brothers she idolized and apparently has always wanted to dress like them.

Maybe Shiloh is a lesbian or maybe she's just a tomboy and will outgrow this. I just think it's wonderful that she has parents that are not worried about what she wears and more worried about her developing a healthy sense of self. We focus too much on gender roles and stereotypes. Maybe this is the new, and perhaps better, approach.

Kelly said...

Admin,
That's not the way I heard it re the Shiloh situation. I read several different articles where they discouraged her from choosing feminine clothing and that is why Brad's Mom was so upset. It was almost like they wanted Shiloh to be different and be some sort of flagship celebrity kid. I could be wrong and hope I am. I'm also not for gender stereotyping but am also not for intentionally steering a child towards an alternative lifestyle. As if Angelina and Brad are the generation of alternative parenting. If Shiloh is lesbian, then all the power to her. But she shouldn't be pushed in either direction and I believe Angelina is weird enough to do it.

I also never believed Deanna did her magic for free. I certainly wouldn't. Perhaps Kate thinks she can befriend her and like all the other freebies, this too will fall into her skeletal lap.

Formerly Duped said...

I agree with you and Millicent, Admin, for pre-school kids. But by school age, you can't have your child insist the teacher call the child by another name, or use the opposite sex bathroom unless there is a very good reason for this.. However, I recently watched a doc called "I am Jazz: A Family in Transition" about a girl born a boy and wanting to present as a girl in every way, a true transgender. The parents had to help expand the laws regarding kids like Jazz, for the better.I think Shiloh and Kingston are about age 5-6.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wh6NecfMiE Very interesting and thought-provoking.(Jazz's story)

I was wondering if these Hollywood kids are just playing with opposite sex clothes and names etc or rather may truly be transgender like this girl Jazz. The 'Hollyweird' comment by Kelly is also what I was wondering for these children in the public eye.Sometimes I think parents do these things for publicity.I really like Gwen, not sure about Angie, but they seem like devoted mothers I would rather see this, than young kids dressed like tarts ( Miley & sister for one example).But the transgender angle caught my attention since I watched 'I am Jazz.' I recommend it.

Formerly Duped said...

Adding on: Kelly, I agree with you, too! I just don't know what to think. It seems unfair to real transgender kids to imitate a style ( Angie calls if Montenegro fashion) but she does seem to be a good parent despite her eccentric ways. Her other daughters dress like girls, and I believe Gwen's other sons dress like boys.When you're in the public eye, so are your children- right, Kate?

TLC stinks said...

Steve 's company and Discovery are not far away. Didn't a poster say the sighting was tweeted on a Sunday night?

Lorrie said...

Not sure if this has been posted already... as I'm certain some of you know, TLC is airing a one hour Kate + 8 special. All I can say is UGH.

FYI said...

People Magazine is now reporting that TLC will be airing a one hour special in June.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20797888,00.html

Jane said...

TLC Stinks - it was tweeted last night - Monday.


davidclayman
@Kateplusmy8 Are you at Clyde's tower oaks? #starstruck
28 min ago from Twitter for iPhone

PatK said...

I noticed how the People article stated something about the special will include catching up on Kate's career. Isn't that really why she wanted to do the special? Again, it's not about the kids...it's about Kate. Yawn.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

There are numerous photos from when Shiloh was a toddler showing her in cute dresses, sandals, pink, and baby dolls, long hair. Only when she got old enough to care what she wore did her wardrobe change and she cut her hair. Also they have two other girls who dress very feminine and none of their boys dress like girls. That suggests to me it's Shiloh who wanted to dress this way not her parents conducting some sort of weird experiment. Maybe she is lesbian or transgender, we don't know.

Paula said...

I noticed how the People article stated something about the special will include catching up on Kate's career

Kate has a career???? This should be good.

Dutch Tulip said...

Farrah has a music video out, horrible and to bad it also features her daughter.

http://dlisted.com/2014/03/17/backdoor-farrah-is-blowin/

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 154
I don't follow Gwen Stephani but I loosely follow the Pitt-Jolie situation and from what I understand Shiloh's grandmother has tried to buy her dresses and things and Shiloh doesn't want them
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I think Jolie-Pitt is a free spirit, while Stefani? I don't know- seems the kid is a fashion statement/extension.

Tucker's Mom said...

I don't question a mom who let's her kid dress outside of gender stereotypes. It's wonderful to let children express themselves and nurture their individual spirit.
You can only imagine the designers clamoring to have Jolie-Pitt's kids don their duds, but these parents seem to say, "it's about what you want, not using you as a billboard".
Ahem, Kate.

TLC stinks said...

Then with the People announcement, this confirms in my mind she was indeed at that restaurant since Discovery is probably 30 minutes away.

Oh well, it will interesting to see what Jon's reaction will be. My God, I wonder what they are paying her?

I think they would have to start filming soon so I don 't believe she'd be able to do CA? The woman will not go away.

This means FOR CERTAIN that People will do a cover and article promoting the special.

Tucker's Mom said...

I would rather see this, than young kids dressed like tarts ( Miley & sister for one example).But the transgender angle caught my attention since I watched 'I am Jazz.' I recommend it.
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Yes, the worst is a mom dressing her little girl up like Julia Roberts's hooker and then dancing provocatively.
That's just creepy.

Tucker's Mom said...

It was almost like they wanted Shiloh to be different and be some sort of flagship celebrity kid. I could be wrong and hope I am. I'm also not for gender stereotyping but am also not for intentionally steering a child towards an alternative lifestyle
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That would be downright evil!
I think Jolie has a pretty wild past- I mean the woman wore a vile of blood around her neck and open mouth kisses her brother, but that would be horrible to manipulate a child's identity.
I think about Suri Cruise and how over-the top girlie she dresses. I've just thought Suri enjoys it- but making her a fashion plate at so young an age seems a bit odd to me.

Tucker's Mom said...

Paula said... 164
I noticed how the People article stated something about the special will include catching up on Kate's career

Kate has a career???? This should be good.
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Career is such a misnomer, IMO.
People like Kate are infamous and notorious. She's going to use her kids and mom image for a very long time.
Kate saying that she'd effectively disappear when the kids turned 18 was wishful thinking.
While of course I'm not surprised that Kate is once again filming the kids, I am curious why or how Jon is allowing it.
Maybe he can do nothing, but it seems such a violation of his rights.
He just about swore up and down that those kids would not be filmed again.

localyocul said...

Well, this ABC article only has one comment so far:

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/kate-gosselin-kids-return-tlc-night-special/story?id=22956049

Don't really care what Kate does with her life but she really needs to leave the children alone to grow up normally. The ship has probably already sailed on that happening. She is a pathetic media ho.

localyocul said...

My daughter wanted to be a boy when she was 3. She didn't want to just dress like a boy, she wanted to BE a boy. She would only wear non-flared pants, preferably jeans, and would stick her hands in her pockets like she thought a boy would do. She loved baseball hats too. She got over it fast enough...I think it was because by fluke she was in a small preschool class with only boys.

Layla said...

Kate was spotted in my neighborhood again? Eek! Remember a few years ago, she was rumored to have bought a condo in the area? I''m not terribly convinced she didn't. Discovery HQ is in Silver Spring, she's been seen in restaurants in the area (this time in Rockville), she has been seen shopping at Whole Foods in Rockville, and Steve lives in North Potomac/Gaithersburg. All very, very close to each other. And there was a rumor going around that the trick-or-treating that was filmed for K+8 Halloween special was in the Potomac area. Heck, she even brought the girls down to Northern VA for the Demi Lovato concert rather than take them to the one in PA.

Kate pretends to love where she lives, but we all remember how she called it Ghettoville. In one of the RV episodes she said she asks herself every day why she lives in PA. The Wernersville area doesn't have the nightlife, the fine dining,or the cultural advantages that the DC area has. It's a very wealthy area, and she wants to be among the wealthy, not the farmers. I don't believe she really wants to live in a small town an hour away from even a Whole Foods. I think if she had the chance, she'd be down here in a heartbeat.

Oh, now I just scared myself. Stay out of my backyard, Kate! You don't want to live here! It's expensive, and the crowds and the traffic can be awful. Hopefully Jon won't let her move the kids elsewhere--ever.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

The catch-up show is official..the TLC announcement in the Hollywood Reporter posted half an hour ago...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/kate-gosselin-new-tlc-show-689342

Audible Click said...

Wow, Kate really looks skeletal. Maybe she could get a job at Disneyland as one of those pirate skeletons draped over the treasure chest. I mean, it's perfect she'd be in California and "on stage" "acting".

chefsummer #Leh said...

TLC Network ‏@TLC 2h
.@KatePlusMy8 is BACK in a 1 hr special coming soon to @TLC. via @peoplemag http://ow.ly/uIuxx #KatePlus8
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Well here it is.

Tucker's Mom said...

As Radar previously reported, while Jon claims to want to keep his children off of the air (while he filmed a season of Couples Therapy) he signed over all of his rights to object in order to stop paying child support, and now Kate is putting the kids back on TV.
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From Radar:
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/03/kate-gosselin-jon-reality-tv-8-kids-returning-back-tlc-special/

Sometimes, this makes my head spin.
Radar reports this as fact- that Jon signed over any rights of keeping his kids off tv, so he doesn't have to pay any child support.
Yet, he vehemently said, just recently, that he'd fight to keep them off tv- and he looked serious.
All an act?

What??
If Kate could film CWS without Jon's consent, or even knowledge, then why would he delve into a deal with her if he's got no say anyway?

Somewhere In Time said...

Austin Martin ‏@TheAustinMartin 18m
@TLC @Kateplusmy8 @peoplemag Yesssss!!!!! Next step, a new show!!!

I wouldn't hold my breath. It's been 2 1/2 years and no network has reached out to her yet, with the exception of a few specials and appearances here and there. She wants a cooking show, talk show, her OWN show, and has come up empty.

Still, it was predicted back then that she's done, stick a fork in her, etc. etc., but she's been a Phoenix Rising. I've never seen anything like it, especially from someone who has burned so many bridges and who is so universally disliked.

Paula said...

he signed over all of his rights to object in order to stop paying child support,

Sheeple talk....

PA Dutch Mom said...

And thus, the exploitation continues. It will never stop. I hope all of the working papers and permits are in order this time. I wonder if the PA DOL has been informed about this...if a set teacher has been assigned and if the child labor laws are not going to be ignored.

Of course, that's assuming that filming is going to be done in PA and they are not planning on flying under the radar and filming in another state.

chefsummer #Leh said...

I bet the reason why TLC was showing re-runs is because they wanted to see if people were interested in Kate.

TLC & peolpe mag and Kate are so disgusting.

PA Dutch Mom said...

What's the bot's keyword this time? "Excited," "Back," or "Guess."

LOL!

Rhymes with Witch said...

Radar reports this as fact- that Jon signed over any rights of keeping his kids off tv, so he doesn't have to pay any child support. 178

Radar is not known for fact checking and often cites questionable sources. They have been known to be wrong. I hope that is the case here.

localyocul said...

Tucker's Mom said... 178
As Radar previously reported, while Jon claims to want to keep his children off of the air (while he filmed a season of Couples Therapy) he signed over all of his rights to object in order to stop paying child support, and now Kate is putting the kids back on TV.
*****
From Radar:
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/03/kate-gosselin-jon-reality-tv-8-kids-returning-back-tlc-special/

Sometimes, this makes my head spin.
Radar reports this as fact- that Jon signed over any rights of keeping his kids off tv, so he doesn't have to pay any child support.
Yet, he vehemently said, just recently, that he'd fight to keep them off tv- and he looked serious.
All an act?

What??
If Kate could film CWS without Jon's consent, or even knowledge, then why would he delve into a deal with her if he's got no say anyway?

*****

Here's what I think. I think TFW realized she couldn't get a gig without the kids. But Jon would not agree to put the kids on. Jon was drowning in child support debt. TFW told him she would agree to zero dollars for child support if he gave her full legal custody (such as she "sued" him for full legal and he agreed).

You can agree to any amount at a modification conference in PA; I've said this for a while.

Like people here have pointed out though, just because you do not have legal custody doesn't mean you can't go to court if she tries to put them on TV.

So both things may be correct; he gave up legal custody but he fought (and lost) to keep them off TV.

This is all my opinion and what I've deduced. I do think Jon changes with the wind though as far as his opinion on what is good for or not good for the kids. IMO

localyocul said...

Well I guess she got her second shot at that brass ring. We'll see what she does with it.

FYI said...

I noticed in the ROL article about the update, they also said the following:

"However, the single mother, who was recently spotted by Radar holding hands with her bodyguard Steve, is once again putting the entire brood on TV."
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Paula said... 164
I noticed how the People article stated something about the special will include catching up on Kate's career
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Career? What career? Failed TV show, failed cruise, failed CC blog, failed Today Show interview, failed cookbook. Seems like Kate's whole career is based on failures.

That's a great career to look backward on. Everything she has tried to keep herself relevant has been one big failure.

The sheeple are all giddy, and some even think that this one hour special will reboot the series. Kate on CA and a one hour special does not make a career. Her only "career" is using her children to keep herself relevant.

Tucker's Mom said...

Still, it was predicted back then that she's done, stick a fork in her, etc. etc., but she's been a Phoenix Rising. I've never seen anything like it, especially from someone who has burned so many bridges and who is so universally disliked.
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Kate is disliked, and she knows that's her only hook. Well, that and there will ALWAYS be fans out there who will lap up any little update on the children's private lives.
It's a lock that she'll not disappear.
I think if we followed (and maybe some of us do) other reality/past-their-prime stars, we'd see them over and over and over, too.
Whether it be "Celebrity Mole" or DWTS, or CA, there's a market out there for them- a cooking competition, you name it.
It's a huge industry and it's easy money for those with notoriety.

I don't rule out that Jon's going to rise like a Phoenix again. I just don't think he'll ever go radio silent when there is big or halfway decent money to be made.
The think is also, that yeah, we can say that CA won't afford Kate a huge payday, the it's all about the exposure, and the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing.

This is Kate's life- she'll never change, at least not in the foreseeable future.

Terri said...

If this is to be a one hour special I really don't think that filming will take up too much time. I mean the kids aren't in too many (if any) extra curricular activities so I don't know how much there is to film. I mean since the show went off the air Kate has failed at just about everything she has tried, the kids go to school, come home, do chores, and play with the new bird before dinner and then bed. So really, just how hard is it going to be to film their daily life.

Katykat said...

What is there to report on about the kids that it warrants a one hour special? All they do is go to school, do too many chores and still treat each other terribly...as seen on the KC segment. There is nothing SPECIAL about them. If anything, it's beyond sad how less than mediocre their lives are with no individual interests being persued by the younger 6.

Tucker's Mom said...

localyocul said... 185
Tucker's Mom said... 178
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Thanks local.
It just seems so absurd that not only does Jon blow hot air about his kids not filming again, but he's gone so far as to assert that he planned to get temporary custody AND a psych eval for Kate.
Whoa!

Again, I'm not surprised that Kate continues to film the kids and sell them for money, but Jon 's sort of lost his credibility.
His intentions might be good, but he's gotten nowhere with his threats and promises, depending on how you view them.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Career? What career? Failed TV show, failed cruise, failed CC blog, failed Today Show interview, failed cookbook. Seems like Kate's whole career is based on failures.187

Now THAT's an update special that I would watch. A true review of her "career."

Paula said...

Perhaps the show is just clips of the kids when they were on the show with Kate "narrating" the update. I can't see Kate allowing the kids to be interviewed....they might "go off script" ala Mady and Cara and we couldn't have the little made up world Kate has created in her head to be exposed.

Tucker's Mom said...

Somewhere In Time said... 179
Austin Martin ‏@TheAustinMartin 18m
@TLC @Kateplusmy8 @peoplemag Yesssss!!!!! Next step, a new show!!!

I wouldn't hold my breath. It's been 2 1/2 years and no network has reached out to her yet, with the exception of a few specials and appearances here and there. She wants a cooking show, talk show, her OWN show, and has come up empty.
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I agree that many things have fallen through. The time to have seized the iron while it was hot was on the heels of DWTS.
TLC will surprise me if they attempt another series with Kate.
If they do attempt it, then it's at their own peril.
I think Kate and (mainly) the kids will draw eyeballs for a 1-hour special, and then probably in a couple years, like when they're 16, another special will be filmed.
I just don't think there's enough of an audience that wants to watch 8 kids be further spoiled beyond belief.
There's nothing real about it and frankly, they look like greedy pigs for taking, taking, taking.
I don't think most hard working parents want to sit on their pleather sofas and watch Kate rake in the dough, travel and get freebies for YET ANOTHER many years.
Enough is enough.

Tucker's Mom said...

Career? What career? Failed TV show, failed cruise, failed CC blog, failed Today Show interview, failed cookbook. Seems like Kate's whole career is based on failures.
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Those have been huge busts.
But, Kate's ace up her sleeve is the kids, and she'll trot them out whenever someone will pay her to do it.

fade2black said...

Kate is a twit said... 187
Kate on CA and a one hour special does not make a career.
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Very true, but if the numbers for the special are high enough, tlc will jump right back on that bandwagon without a backward look to see if they left their scruples behind. My heart breaks for those children.

AuntieAnn said...

Kate is disliked, and she knows that's her only hook. Well, that and there will ALWAYS be fans out there who will lap up any little update on the children's private lives.
It's a lock that she'll not disappear.

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I think that proverbial 'stick' of hers is being held there by the horseshoe up her ass.

It just amazes me how someone with less talent than a garden slug can get paid so well for doing less than a garden slug.

jbranck1980 said...

If this is to be a one hour special I really don't think that filming will take up too much time

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I agree. I think that between TFW yammering on and flailing her hands and old clips, there won't be that much new footage of the kids. I do wonder if we will hear anything from Jon about it and his protests against filming them at all.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Paula said... 193
Perhaps the show is just clips of the kids when they were on the show with Kate "narrating" the update.
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OMG that would be torture hearing all of her umming and pausing and her making up words.

jbranck1980 said...

I also wonder if/how they will edit Jon out of the recap portion of the special. It would seriously be shame if they didn't mention him AT ALL. I would think that would be another exhibit for his case about parental alienation.

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