Monday, March 10, 2014

Betty Broderick and the divorce from hell

"I realize now that he was right when he said our battles would continue until one of us was dead." -Betty Broderick

Jon's recent stint on Couples Therapy has reminded us just how contentious Jon and Kate's divorce was and still is. Jon says that, four years later, he and Kate are not even civil to each other, Kate emasculates him and judges him, and Kate would not allow him to speak to his children when he was on the show.

But their troubles can't even begin to compare to those of Betty Broderick, a California ex-wife and mother who went through such a contentious break-up she felt compelled to murder her ex-husband and his new wife in 1989. Broderick is currently serving a 32 to life sentence in prison.

Betty's complaints about Dan Broderick included:
  • Dan's affair with his assistant.
  • All the years Betty worked to put Dan through medical school and law school, including going door-to-door selling Tupperware.
  • Dan's obsession with money, working and drinking.
  • Dan would refuse to take the children on his custodial time or spend time with them. Betty had to physically drop them off on his porch. Later he asked for, and obtained full custody.
  • Dan getting the house and most of the money in the divorce; Dan's lying and manipulation of the court system in order to obtain a grossly one-sided settlement. 
  • Betty was turned down by the best divorce attorneys in San Diego because they were friends with Dan or felt loyal to Dan, a prominent local attorney.
Dan's camp in turn said that Betty:
  • Was in contempt of court orders including various restraining orders.
  • Called his answering machine hundreds of times leaving nasty messages; destroyed his personal property.
  • Was obsessed with him and could not move on.
  • Was consumed by her anger and hate.
  • Believed herself to be the best mother in the world when in reality she was causing severe psychological damage to her children with her hate and alienation.
  • Was irresponsible, incapable, and untrustworthy.
A psychologist for the prosecution diagnosed Betty with narcissism. At a parol hearing, two of Betty's four children argued for her release. The other two asked that she remain incarcerated.

While no divorce experts justified the murder, it did cause many in the divorce community to question California's "Epstein credits," a complicated doctrine which allowed for Dan, a multimillionaire, to be reimbursed so much money from Betty in the divorce he owed her next to nothing in the settlement.

Meredith Baxtor's critically acclaimed, Emmy-nominated portrayal of the scorned ex-wife airs Tuesday, March 11 on Lifetime Movie Network (A Woman Scorned: The Betty Broderick Story, and Her Final Fury: Betty Broderick, The Last Chapter). The two part movie, which has achieved somewhat of a cult following a la Mommie Dearest, meticulously chronicles the marriage, divorce and murder. We'll be watching.

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Jeremy said...

I'm not even going to attempt to spell her name, but tennis player Martina has been listed in the same rumor reports as kate re "confirmed" for CA. Martina tweeted out tonight that she is NOT going to be on the show. For whatever that is worth . . .

Dmasy said...

Oh! Oh! Waving my hands madly from the back of the classroom.

There was a time of my life when I did extensive research on BB. (Job related.) I have seen the movie several times.

I have read all the books that covered the story. There are 3-4. They are packed in a box that is still in Illinois, so I can't access them at the moment. One book, "Until the Twelfth of Never" has several letters tucked inside. They are letters to Betty from me and her responses to me. The last letter I received from her was after her 2011 parole hearing when she was denied parole.

I will probably bore all of you to death with my comments as this discussion unfolds!

sparkle said...

Reality Tea is claiming that Kate is a confirmed contestant.



New Celebrity Apprentice Cast Includes Kate Gosselin, Johnny Weir, And More! by Melissa on March 10th, 2014

Season 7 of Celebrity Apprentice is a go – and the cast list is slowly being revealed to us. On the list? None other than the Wicked Witch of Eastern PA, Kate Gosselin! Awww – dreams really do come true. Her dreams. Not mine. In case that wasn't clear.


According to Gossip Cop, the confirmed cast also includes Sharknado star Ian Ziering, tennis player Martina Navratilova, and figure skater Johnny Weir.

David Hasselhoff reportedly has the contract in his possession, but he hasn't put down his cheeseburger long enough to sign it. Rumor has it that NBC really wants The Hoff because he's so unpredictable.

CLICK CONTINUE READING FOR MORE!


None of these "celebrities" are strangers to reality TV.

Kate appeared on Dancing with the Stars and Celebrity Wife Swap since Jon & Kate Plus 8 - but the majority of her attempts to stay in the spotlight have fallen flat. I can't imagine why. #Sarcasm #CoughInsufferableCough

Ian competed on Dancing with the Stars. Martina appeared on I'm a Celebrity … Get Me Out of Here! and Dancing with the Stars. Johnny served as a judge on Skating with the Stars and RuPaul's Drag Race. Johnny also appeared on the Rachel Zoe Project. David competed on Dancing with the Stars and judged America's Got Talent.

That's it for confirmed participants so far.













































































































































localyocul said...

Dmasy said... 2
Oh! Oh! Waving my hands madly from the back of the classroom.

There was a time of my life when I did extensive research on BB. (Job related.) I have seen the movie several times.

I have read all the books that covered the story. There are 3-4. They are packed in a box that is still in Illinois, so I can't access them at the moment. One book, "Until the Twelfth of Never" has several letters tucked inside. They are letters to Betty from me and her responses to me. The last letter I received from her was after her 2011 parole hearing when she was denied parole.

I will probably bore all of you to death with my comments as this discussion unfolds

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That's awesome! I love true crime books, which was the best? I have read about Ted Bundy, Karla Homolka, Casey Anthony, Andrea Yates, and others. Sounds morbid but it fascinates me that anyone can be so depraved, especially mothers who kill their children.

Too bad Betty Broderick is on in the middle of the day tomorrow. :(

PatK said...

Meagler said... 174
Kate's desperate, she'll take it! And Jon can get custody, or first right of refusal and get those kids to his home and hopefully do some de-brainwashing...

Today is tuesday, so if the locals saw the kids sliding, you can bet it was with Jon and not Kate. She had to post the pic of one of the girls with the bird, to make people think she had them all day.

Everything she does has a calculated reason behind it.

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Bringing this over from the last post, because I really want Meagler to be on the same day as the rest of us. Today is Monday, Meagler!! lol

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Today is tuesday, so if the locals saw the kids sliding, you can bet it was with Jon and not Kate. She had to post the pic of one of the girls with the bird, to make people think she had them all day.

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If it is, then I missed a dental appointment this morning. No problem. I wasn't looking forward to it at all!

AuntieAnn said...

From the Lifetime Movie Link to the LA Times:

"They have the nerve to call it by my name, how can they do that? They never even talked to Betty Broderick," she said, punctuating her frustration with a short shrill scream.


Riiiight Betty. Nobody understands you. It was all Daniel's fault wasn't it?

I remember watching this movie when it originally aired. It was chilling.

Dmasy, I look forward to your contributions to this discussion.

Montréalaise said...

So Kate and Johnny Weir are both (allegedly) going to be on Celebrity Apprentice? Johnny met Kate at an ice skating event some years ago and he had nothing good to say about her - in fact, he was quite vocal in telling everyone how rude and mean she was. So the two of them together on CA should be ... interesting.

AuntieAnn said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 175

AuntieAnn - kudos on your successful solo furnace repair! How did you do it without tweeting strangers for help? #CanDoAnn!

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Flimsy, I know, I know. I should have turned to twitter for tea and sympathy.

You know what's funny? All the while I'm working on it and believe me I was in a panic not really knowing what I was doing, I thought of taking a selfie lying on the basement floor in front of the furnace like Kate did in front of one of her two dishwashers. lol! But alas, no time for it and not only that but you would have seen the litter box, that we only have one furnace, that I didn't have makeup on and I wasn't in the most graceful pose. That was the realist of reality. haha.

I did think of you guys though.

Meagler said...

Did I mention how insufferably tired I am!??!! ...lol..

when I read Admins post about how this movie is on Tuesday march 11.. I thought...wha??/ and then realized my fauz paus....

Even if not Tuesday, there is still no way kate had those kids out on a hill...Someone else ( thankfully) has taken them to show them some fun!! and exercise plus fresh air outside of the konpound!

Oh my..if it already feels like tuesday...this is going to be a very long week. Still waiting on MRI results, we are under renovations at work..paint fumes, flooring glue fumes, etc, and I am having wicked hot flashes at night..

...sigh.... To all who have been here...you will understand...to those who have yet to experience the wonderful " personal summers" ... dont get excited..it aint no Jamaica!!!

I vaguely remember the Betty broderick fiasco..it will be good to be refreshed...

Gnite all!!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I remembered there were some BB aficionados here I just couldn't remember who!

I look forward to it.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

That reminds me isn't what's her name's true crime book on this considered one of the very best true crime books, next to In Cold Blood?

Incidentally, Philip Seymour Hoffman's death inspired me to read, or possibly reread In Cold Blood. I think I may have read it in high school but I don't remember much. I'm 2/3rds through and I've been amazed how gripping the writing is. I am the type that loves lots of details and this book gives it, right down to every single thing the family did before their deaths. It is an older book but you couldn't tell, it could have been written yesterday. I highly recommend it. When I'm finished, I plan to watch Capote. I also am almost finished with Gone Girl, which I believe was recommended here, which is also a crime type book and without giving it away, I really think most 15 Minutemen would like it.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Wait maybe that's Diane Downs. You know I always mix these two up, their personalities are identical and they look similar too!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I'm not even going to attempt to spell her name, but tennis player Martina has been listed in the same rumor reports as kate re "confirmed" for CA. Martina tweeted out tonight that she is NOT going to be on the show. For whatever that is worth . . .

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My guess is that what has been leaked was a preliminary list of people they are actively negotiating with. I'll believe it when I see it, but I do believe there's enough to this to at least reasonably conclude she's on their short list. We'll just have to see what happens.

I do think her hate for Jon and desire to one up him would color her judgment when signing on to something that no sane Kate Gosselin would touch. She should know better, she should know there is no way in hell she is cut out for such a thing, but she's too focused on one upping Jon to be rational.

Dmasy said...

Admin, I think you are thinking of Ann Rule. She wrote "Small Sacrifices" about Diane Downs.

Ann Rule has written more true crime books that Bitchy Pants/Reader Lady could possibly count. AR was a single mom who volunteered at a suicide hotline center. She worked with (and used as a babysitter) a gentle and personable young man named Ted Bundy.

Viola! A career in lucrative writing was born with the book "A Stranger Beside Me.'

Oops! I think my "gruesome" side is being revealed!

localyocul said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 12
That reminds me isn't what's her name's true crime book on this considered one of the very best true crime books, next to In Cold Blood?

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Do you mean Ann Rule? She wrote "A Stranger Beside Me" about Ted Bundy. She actually knew him and worked with him at suicide hotline when, unbenounced to her, he was a serial killer. It was a great book. Oh, and Lifetime had a movie about Ted Bundy starring Mark Harmon called "The Deliberate Stranger." That was a great movie as well.

AuntieAnn said...

Wasn't there a thread here about Diane Downs daughter after she was interviewed on 20/20?

localyocul said...

Dmasy said... 15
Admin, I think you are thinking of Ann Rule. She wrote "Small Sacrifices" about Diane Downs.

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Small Sacrifices was a great book too. And Lifetime did the movie with Farrah Faucette who was brilliant in the role, singing along to "Hungry Like a Wolf". I forgot about her..what a sociopath!!

localyocul said...

Dmasy said... 15
Admin, I think you are thinking of Ann Rule. She wrote "Small Sacrifices" about Diane Downs.

Ann Rule has written more true crime books that Bitchy Pants/Reader Lady could possibly count. AR was a single mom who volunteered at a suicide hotline center. She worked with (and used as a babysitter) a gentle and personable young man named Ted Bundy.

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Jinx! You owe me a Coke!

localyocul said...

Dmasy said... 15

Oops! I think my "gruesome" side is being revealed!

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Me to LOL. I am addicted to Snapped, Deadly Women, and Fatal Attraction on Discovery ID

Remona Blue said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 14
''.....I do think her hate for Jon and desire to one up him would color her judgment when signing on to something that no sane Kate Gosselin would touch. She should know better, she should know there is no way in hell she is cut out for such a thing, but she's too focused on one upping Jon to be rational.''
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Admin, I agree with you that TCFW is too focused on one upping Jon to really think things through before signing up for the show.

However, I really don't believe that she has enough self-awareness to overcome her narcissistic belief that she can do anything/everything. She sees herself as the perfect mother, the queen of organization, the really good cook, totally unaware that her actions prove over and over and over that she is none of those things.

Maybe the key is your comment that ''no sane KG would touch'' CA. The key word being ''sane''.

JTN said...

Kate won't survive very long on Celebrity Apprentice unless she flies true crazy colors and is so nasty and manipulative that it makes for good television. I gave up on that show a couple seasons ago. Trump goes on and on ad nauseum about how he 'makes' people's careers by being on the show, but its really just a giant D lister parade... I really think its a bad bad idea for Kate though because if she says, does, or acts horrifically bad, NBC will most likely be able to trot out the clips on any show they have a share in for the future.

I read up on Betty Broderick the last time these were on television a few months ago. I think the movies are way too sympathetic towards the husband. I came away from the movies thinking she was a total mess and then I read more on the case and saw how her husband was a real piece of work as well. He really screwed her over in the divorce, and she had a real justification to be angry. However, she had plenty of opportunities to walk away and make better choices and decided to act out.

In terms of narcissistic mothers, Marybeth Tinning in the one that chills me to the bone. Her story is recounted in From Cradle to Grave. Given a few emotional pushes here or there, I could see TFW turning into a person like her but fortunately did not.

Dmasy said...

local, you can have a coke...or, could I tempt you with a Rumspringa?

Call Me Crazy said...

Dmasy - That is fascinating! I can't wait to hear more from your "gruesome" side!

Ex Nurse said...

Localyokul said...

That's awesome! I love true crime books, which was the best?
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Ann Rule wrote a book called The Deputy's Wife, about a Seattle area county sheriff that put a hit out in his wife while he was in prison. He was a softball coach in the same league as my daughters', who were coached by their father. One of my daughter's was coached by that guy, on the all-stars team, and is in one of the pictures in the book. He was one really deranged character, and a huge bully the opposing teams. He used intimidation and was famous for his unsportsmanlike behavior.

Starz22 said...

Dmasy...you have letters from Betty? OMGosh I would love to hear them. I have seen the movies many times. For you to get so close and personal is intriguing.
As for the husband getting one over her...I didn't see it. Betty is bat shit crazy. What she did to her son was more than abuse. To think her only way out was to kill them shows how messed up she was/is.

As for TFW being on CA...I'm torn. I watch the show. But I'm not sure I can watch it if she's on it. I can barely stand to look at a picture with her in it...let alone hear her voice....she makes me sick. I know she'll never make it on the show....she lacks everything the show requires...dedication...self-sacafice ...work ethic...team player...ect ect...It's gonna piss me off to see her stay just for the haters watching her all due to ratings.
Can't we record the show and comment 1 day later rather than give the show the ratings that they expect from having her on?

TLC stinks said...

Watched the movie, trial and read the book. Fascinating. If Kate and Jon were not in the public eye, I would hate to think how much nastier it could get.

Kate is on the short list for CA, but has been before. I would bet it is not settled yet as she has to contend with Jon itching to go after her for custody. These rumors always fly before the announcement. It is typical of Kate to be silent (apparently her rep will not confirm anything) just to keep her name in the tabloids. If she's not on, wanna bet she'll blame Jon? (Actually her minions will blame him). They will say Jon threatened to take the kids away or demanded custody while filming. Regardless, Kate wants it both ways. As far as I am concerned, it's a lose/lose for Kate: makes an ass of herself on TV and gives Jon grounds for full custody. The alternative is that her hate for Jon outweighs her narcissism and she will decline Trump's offer so she can blame him and wait for a show similar to the old TLC show. There was also a rumor years ago that she was desparate to get on Dance Moms (kind of explains those dance lessons for Mady).

Vanessa said...

So she did "ok" on CWS because she was more or less "in charge", was encouraged and expected to rule the roost and have her be "obeyed", what a dream job for her! Plus she was "against" a 3 year old kid and a gentleman. On CA, she'll be truly competing with people with brains, hearts, souls, work ethic, ETHICS, drive, stamina, friends, pull etc. etc...it will be my pleasure to see her squirm and be put in her place.

Now off to get my hands on some of the recommended books:)

TLC stinks said...

Remember, Kate was on the short list in 2011 and there was this same flurry in the tabloids. After the list was revealed she finally said there were scheduling conflicts. Riiiiight.

Vanessa said...

Admin said:
16,000 may sound like a lot because it's one lump sum. But it's a 30 day shoot with about 4 days off, once a week. That's 26 straight days of work, and it's clear from the show that......
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And there you have it in a nutshell. This is all she wants, the only reason she thinks she was put on this earth, to be a TEEVEE STAR!
Like she's said before "We can't go back".

She does know that competitors are given tasks, INSTRUCTIONS, challenges? Is she going to pull another "blame the teacher" scenario? Tony didn't take into consideration how SHE learned, remember? Is she going to turn it on the Don? Make him responsible for her failure?
ummm ummm ummmm...scowl scowl scowl...I can just see it now.

sparkle said...

Starz22 said... 26

As for TFW being on CA...I'm torn. I watch the show. But I'm not sure I can watch it if she's on it. I can barely stand to look at a picture with her in it...let alone hear her voice....she makes me sick. I know she'll never make it on the show....she lacks everything the show requires...dedication...self-sacafice ...work ethic...team player...ect ect...It's gonna piss me off to see her stay just for the haters watching her all due to ratings.
Can't we record the show and comment 1 day later rather than give the show the ratings that they expect from having her on?
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Here's my prediction. If Kate does end up on the show, it will never be intended for the long haul and I think that will be pre-arranged. She wants to get her stretched, injected mug on tv and she wants some star treatment in NYC. She'll be on maybe two or three weeks, then she'll make a huge ordeal about how she has to leave because her kids need her. She'll channel Scarlett O'Hara and proclaim "I'm a mother and that comes first!!" She will make sure that America knows the kids are in Jon's care and that they are miserable, calling her everyday and begging her to come home. And with that she'll be done. All IMO.

Tucker's Mom said...

Gruesome confession- I'm also intrigued by these women- Lifetime ( the estrogen/insane women channel) is a treasure trove for these movies!
Last year or so, I was riveted by the horrific case involving Diane Schuler, better known as Aunt Diane, as in "There's Something Wrong With Aunt Diane".
This woman killed 7 people in a violent and virtually inevitable car crash, when she was stoned and drunk, driving a mini van the wrong way on a highway for almost 2 miles.
She killed herself, 4 children (her daughter and 3 niece/nephews) and 3 people in the SUV that she collided head on with.
It's fascinating from a forensic standpoint, that this 36-year old would smoke pot and throw back 11 shots of vodka, in the MORNING, and drive with precious children in the van.
I think she was on a suicide mission.
Anyway, it's a terrifying documentary to see, and know that they do show her corpse at the scene, but no other innocents.
I don't know if her husband is still trying to sue his BIL for use of his van (can you believe?!), and Diane's SIL, Jackie Hance, went on to have more children and wrote a book.

localyocul said...

Ex Nurse said... 25
Localyokul said...

That's awesome! I love true crime books, which was the best?
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Ann Rule wrote a book called The Deputy's Wife, about a Seattle area county sheriff that put a hit out in his wife while he was in prison. He was a softball coach in the same league as my daughters', who were coached by their father. One of my daughter's was coached by that guy, on the all-stars team, and is in one of the pictures in the book. He was one really deranged character, and a huge bully the opposing teams. He used intimidation and was famous for his unsportsmanlike behavior.

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That's scary! Just like Ann was following the murders of the unknown serial killer in the Northwest and all along it was her friend Ted who drove a VW.

I also think Betty was a bat-shit crazy murderer

Tucker's Mom said...

Speaking of concerts, Ringo Starr is is touring and I'm wondering if anyone has seen him lately.
I'm intrigued to be able to see a real Beatle perform!

Tucker's Mom said...

.It's gonna piss me off to see her stay just for the haters watching her all due to ratings.
Can't we record the show and comment 1 day later rather than give the show the ratings that they expect from having her on?
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Believe me, as strong as we are here in this community, it's not going to tip any scales when it comes to signing Kate on more tv shows.
So, don't feel upset!
If it's a done deal, it's a done deal. Kate either will be on, or she won't. Any of us tuning in when the show airs isn't going to make a lick of difference.
To wit- check out any article on Kate, like ROL. The comments section is always teaming with vitriol towards this woman, and she'll keep it coming, with antics like suing the father of her children and continuing to cavort with a married man.
She knows how to work the system and needs to help from us mediocres!

Anonymous said...

Speaking of crime and authors, Joe McGinnis, author of Fatal Vision, died yesterday.

PJ

NJGal51 said...

Starz22 said - Can't we record the show and comment 1 day later rather than give the show the ratings that they expect from having her on?
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Um, no. This is a show that I watch on a regular basis and I'm not going to stop just because TFW is on it. I think that everyone is giving her far too much credit. She may bring in some viewers that normally don't watch but it's not going to be in the millions. Let's get real here, she's an also ran. If the networks thought she'd bring in the viewers she'd have her own show by now. She buys followers on twitter and twitterbots to retweet and make it seem like there's interest in what she says and does. She can't do that with TV.

LisaNH said...

JTN said... 22
Kate won't survive very long on Celebrity Apprentice unless she flies true crazy colors and is so nasty and manipulative that it makes for good television. I gave up on that show a couple seasons ago. Trump goes on and on ad nauseum about how he 'makes' people's careers by being on the show, but its really just a giant D lister parade... I really think its a bad bad idea for Kate though because if she says, does, or acts horrifically bad, NBC will most likely be able to trot out the clips on any show they have a share in for the future.

I read up on Betty Broderick the last time these were on television a few months ago. I think the movies are way too sympathetic towards the husband. I came away from the movies thinking she was a total mess and then I read more on the case and saw how her husband was a real piece of work as well. He really screwed her over in the divorce, and she had a real justification to be angry. However, she had plenty of opportunities to walk away and make better choices and decided to act out.

In terms of narcissistic mothers, Marybeth Tinning in the one that chills me to the bone. Her story is recounted in From Cradle to Grave. Given a few emotional pushes here or there, I could see TFW turning into a person like her but fortunately did not.

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That is exactly the way I feel about BB. Personally, I think both she and Dan were complete jerks. You are right, she could have made much better choices, but so could Dan. He must have known how much it enraged her when he pulled all of his legal tricks on her (legal tricks he was able to pull because she paid for his schooling). But he kept pushing her buttons. Maybe if he had just settled with her, given her a pile of money, she would have eventually moved on (then again, maybe not).

And BB certainly acted up herself with her crazy antics, the phone calls ect... but to kill 2 people is complete insanity. Again, she could have just kept her mouth shut, taken what she could and moved on and away. But instead she acted irrationally and now she sits in a jail cell. Was it worth it, Betty? Was it worth taking two lives, one of which was your childrens' father?

To say that both Betty and Dan behaved badly is putting it mildly but as I said before, they are and were both pinheads in the divorce.

TLC stinks said...

CA ratings have been trending down and NBC almost did not renew it. I have not watched it and don't intend to change my viewing habits. I agree with the above comments that Donald would need a hefty, like in the millions, of additional viewers to keep the show on the air. Kate will not bring in those numbers although I am sure any uptick would be claimed by the sheeple that Kate was the draw. I agree she won't last and probably it's in the contract that she can bail out after a certain number of episodes. All she wants is to get her mug in national TV. I will never understand why she keeps getting these breaks, but never will she ever draw the 10 million viewers like the divorce announcement episode. Never. That was a unique event on TV. It is abundantly clear she has no talent and has a very narrow appeal.

I will anxiously await recaps if she appears or catch clips just like I did with Dancing With The Stars. These shows have a shelf life and reality TV appears to be on the decline anyway. She is an aging, shrill, whiney reality show personality who needs to move on but won't. She can't stop time no matter how much she tries.

As far as I am concerned, I wish she was offered nothing in TV, but if she is, she just makes a fool of herself and that may be exactly why she does get invites.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Last year or so, I was riveted by the horrific case involving Diane Schuler, better known as Aunt Diane, as in "There's Something Wrong With Aunt Diane".


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That one interested me too. I was especially fascinated with her husband, who stood by her and as far as I know still stands by her even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. It was an interesting study of people who stand by and support very bad people. This kind of thing does happen quite often.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

CA is on NBC -- the network that aired the TFW's Today Show fiasco. Did a lightbulb go off in someone's head about exploiting that train wreck?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I agree that Dan was a real nightmare and that he really pushed her buttons. He really manipulated the legal results so she got royally screwed. It was a fine thank you for the decades she invested in his career and children so he could flutter off and be the toast of the town in San Diego. From the beginning he should have given her a FAIR sum for all that and joint custody.

Betty was psychotic and murder is never justified. However, I am of the belief that had he handled this differently this need would have happened.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Starzz, I really don't think we should worry about that. I watch what I want to watch, and CA is on my must see list regardless of TFW being on or not. TFW does not get to dictate my viewing habits. Someone else explained it better, and I agree. It's become pretty clear to me Kate has established a certain sense of notoriety. That ship has sailed, it is too late to change that with boycotts or calling sponsors. It is also clear to me that Kate self destructs all on her own. No one needs to call/email the Today show, she went on the Today show and imploded all by herself, without our help. The same will be true of CA IF she goes on. I tune in now and again to watch her downward spiral guilt free, it's not my responsibility to get her off T.V. nor do I have that power.

Marie said...

For those of you who have not watched CA before, they usually try to keep the train wrecks on as long as possible to get the ratings. Even if they do terrible in the tasks, they manage to stay on because Trump wants the ratings. So TFW could be on for a while. Unless she's just absolutely boring, then she will be gone. If she ends up being a trouble maker or someone who causes a lot of controversy, she will be on longer.

Marie

Marie said...

I personally wouldn't go on that show unless I knew I had plenty of people who could donate to my charity. It seems to be pretty embarrassing for those celebs who do not have the friends to donate. I can't imagine who Kate would try to recruit for that. Steve? Deanna? Milo?

Marie

Marie said...

I don't agree with writiting to the TV shows who have TFW on. I think it almost encourages them. They know she's toxic. That is why they have her on.

Marie

Marie said...

Bottom line. . . as long as we have trashy reality shows and the people who like to watch them, we will have Kate Gosselin on our TV's.

Marie

Layla said...

So, will TFW do CA or not? If she does, it won't be for the money. $16,000 is not a lot, especially when her agent gets 15% (I think that was the amount on the scontract on RH's book), and then taxes are taken out. All for a month of 16-hour days, hard work, and not enough sleep. Plus the kids will be outside of her sphere of influence, and she can't censor what they say to Jon, or interfere with their time with him.Somehow I just can't see her giving up that much control, since the kids are the only people left for her to control.

But, of course, this is TFW. She wanted another chance at TV to "hit it out of the ballpark". She'll see this as her chance. It will be just like DWTS, where she went into it thinking she was "In it to win it". And failed miserably once she realized she had to actually work. She thinks she can still coast along on her star power, but that ended a long time ago. She'll melt down when she's actually expected to work, and the other contestants will hate her (some already do). What will she do when she can't tell the camera crew to stop playing "we're filming a TV show" and get some work done, because she's really done? The raging beast within her will come out, people will be reminded once again why they can't stand her, and then she'll go back to PA to find that her kids have bonded with Jon and Liz and at least some of them don't want to come home. And, of course, the stories of how difficult she is to work with will circulate, so that no network will ever want to give her another show.
Go for it, Kate!

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Seriously, what charity? That in itself is a joke, and the fact that a woman who claims her identity is "mom of 8" is even considering leaving them for 6 weeks if shooting reality tv is also a joke. So what will the sheeple spin be on that, considering the venom they spewed about Jon taking off for a few weeks to do the therapy show? DWTS built the biotch a practice studio, Donald Trump has different rules.

I am One of Eight said...

NJGAL51- I had to laugh when I read your comment because of the phrase also ran. I had never heard that phrase before, then my daughter was In Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat last month and after going to 4 performaces, we've become a little obsessed with the music and I couldn't figure out what one line was so I looked it up and there was that phrase, also ran.
As for TFW on CA, I don't watch that show and am not going to start because she is on there.
Now if she was on Amazing Race, I would have to suffer through it.

Millicent said...

Dmasy - I too look forward to your comments on this discussion re the BB story. I wonder if I have time at lunch to run home and record the movie. One of my guilty pleasures is reading true crime stories as well.

I find Ann Rule to be one of the better writers of that type of story. I read Small Sacrifices but I didn't read the one about Ted Bundy.

I also watch the station that plays all those true crime stories. You know, The Homicide Hunter, Unusual Suspects, etc.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

About the expression "also ran"...once Ricky Ricardo had some sort of setback, and said to Lucy, "How does it feel to be married to an
'also been?'" Ethel looked confused, and Lucy explained,"He means a
'has ran!'"

Layla said...

Include me with all the true crime fans here. I am a big fan of Ann Rule, and I love some of the shows, too. Interestingly, I went to college with Julie Schenecker, who will soon go on trial in Florida for killing her "mouthy" kids. She was a few years ahead of me, and I only met her during my freshman year, when I had a part-time job refereeing intramural sports at the campus gym (she did, too). I keep trying to think back, wondering if there was anything really strange about her then, but she seemed pretty normal as far as I recall. How does somebody who seemed so normal go so far off the tracks? I just can't fathom.

Interesting bunch I went to college with--Julie Schenecker (Julie Powers then), Mark Steines (he's on that Hallmark channel H&F show TFW appeared on last fall) and former NFL QB Kurt Warner.

Kate is a twit said...

I remember watching Betty Broderick's second trial on Court TV. I have also seen the movie with Meredith Baxter. Her portrayal of BB was outstanding.

There was a documentary TV show on A&E years ago called American Justice. They did a show about BB and I actually found the entire show on Youtube. Parts of it include footage BB's testimony during both her trials.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x71pW8E_Eq4

Millicent said...

TLC Stinks said:
I agree she won't last and probably it's in the contract that she can bail out after a certain number of episodes.
*******
You know, I think that's what happened with the basketball player, Dennis Rodman. It was pretty clear he really wasn't interested in doing anything more than sitting in the board room looking bored, or going out drinking with his friends.

NJGal51 said...

Nobody flew the crazy flag on CA like Gary Busey and Lisa Lampinalli had some major league meltdowns. If TFW is on she'll be the one that the team sends to the prop store becasue she won't be any use to them in the planning and execution of the task.

In the past when the contestants had to draw passers-by to their area you had some singing, some dancing, some (Gary I'm looking at you) acting crazy in general and then your Penn J types who are just good showmen. What's TFW going to do plop a wig on her head and yell "come and get yer popcorn"? I doubt that many will even recognize her without the old hairdo.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Layla, I recently discovered Mark Steines is also a fantastic photographer. What talent. Google him to see his photos.

Tucker's Mom said...

In the past when the contestants had to draw passers-by to their area you had some singing, some dancing, some (Gary I'm looking at you) acting crazy in general and then your Penn J types who are just good showmen. What's TFW going to do plop a wig on her head and yell "come and get yer popcorn"? I doubt that many will even recognize her without the old hairdo.
********

No, silly!
Kate will have Steve fetch the people on the street!
DUH!
:-)

Localyocul said...

Layla you went to college with Julie schenecker? Yeah u think her trial is next month and being Florida with the sunshine laws it will be live streamed. What a tragic case

Layla said...

I wonder how DT is going to react when TFW goes on talk shows, supposedly to promote CA, and instead begs for a new show for herself? It's not like he doesn't realize that she does that every time she's supposed to be promoting something. TFW promotes nothing/nobody but herself.

Layla said...

Tucker's Mom (58) said...
No, silly!
Kate will have Steve fetch the people on the street!
DUH!
:-)
***********
But I thought Steve's job was to keep the unwashed masses away from her...

Remona Blue said...

Layla said... 48
''........she'll go back to PA to find that her kids have bonded with Jon and Liz and at least some of them don't want to come home. And, of course, the stories of how difficult she is to work with will circulate, so that no network will ever want to give her another show.
Go for it, Kate!''
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I think that TCFW knows that she is barely hanging onto Jon's children with intense parental alienation. Even though her narcissistic ego really wants to be on CA, I think her fear of losing complete control over Jon's children/pushing Jon's buttons will be the thing that causes her the most distress. It will be interesting to see what she chooses.

Remona Blue said...

Millicent said... 51
''I also watch the station that plays all those true crime stories. You know, The Homicide Hunter, Unusual Suspects, etc.''
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I'm adding my name to the group that watches the true crime stories. There seem to be more than a few of us who are fascinated with such things. I haven't gotten into analysis paralysis about WHY they are so interesting to me...I just know that they are!

Tucker's Mom said...

But I thought Steve's job was to keep the unwashed masses away from her...
******
Well, if it's a Stevie doppelganger, then he must go fetch!
You know-the universal sign for fetch- wave your French tipped jazz hands in the air?
(am referring to the Georgetown/cupcake episode for anyone who didn't see it!)

Oh The Humanity said...

Tucker's Mom said... 34
Speaking of concerts, Ringo Starr is is touring and I'm wondering if anyone has seen him lately. I'm intrigued to be able to see a real Beatle perform!

Tucker's Mom: I took my daughter to see Ringo a short time ago- it was a great concert (though short and to the point). He did lots of crowd favorites- some were songs more associated with his "All Star Band" members like Todd Rundgren. The upshot is my daughter got to see a "real Beatle" plus a whole lot of other fantastic musicians in a very nice concert setting. Ringo sells his own artwork (besdies the usual t-shirts etc) in the lobby. I don't think you'll be disappointed!

Layla said...

If the show starts filming next month, and filming lasts a month to 6 weeks, then it's possible TFW will miss the tups' 10th birthday. Of course, if it comes down to either being on TV or being there for the kids, she'll choose TV, no question. She will, however, make sure that she does a People magazine photo shoot before she leaves. She may not be there for their birthday, but she won't pass up an opportunity to profit off it.

lukebandit said...

Got this in my email today. At PG Daily Deal.


Get $40 for $15- Pittsburgh Sports Teams Ticket Credit at ScoreBig - Symphony/Concert Tickets too!

I think this is like Groupon. Hope someone can benefit!

Tucker's Mom said...

Geez, this Julie Schenecker is a monster! Who the hell could put a gun to a kid's head, let alone their own?

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the link, Kate is a Twit. I laughed when law enforcement referred to Betty as "the former wife".

Interesting the her ex decided that HE would be the one to penalize her if she swore or harassed them and would deduct it from her monthly support. That speaks volumes to me.

On another note, has anyone else heard about people going to med school and being told to find someone to marry for financial support and that you can dump them as soon as you graduate? I've heard that from numerous reliable sources, and I've seen it happen a few times myself.

This case reminds me of the one recently in the headlines. Martin MacNeill forced his wife to undergo plastic surgery and killed her with pain meds. What's the deal with doctor/lawyer degrees?

PJ

Blowing In The Wind said...

In the past when the contestants had to draw passers-by to their area you had some singing, some dancing, some (Gary I'm looking at you) acting crazy in general and then your Penn J types who are just good showmen. What's TFW going to do plop a wig on her head and yell "come and get yer popcorn"? I doubt that many will even recognize her without the old hairdo.

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Couldn't Kate recruit her fans to do that for her...they are good at parading around Walmart parking lots? I'm sure Milo could put on her purple sneakers and Kate's daisy dukes and do some fancy singin and dancin on the streets of the city.

lukebandit said...

Oh, this is funny from PG Daily Deals! These are from I think from the Pittsburg Gazette.

Pampering at a Great Price-$50 Credit at PS Salon and Spa for $24.75!

Trying to help her coupon because nobody can teach her how to coupon, except you have to know how she learns like poor St. Tony was faced with!

She's always piecing and a patching, don't cha know!

Can't wait for her to be on CA! Remember, they always show contestants comments talking about the other contestants. Can you imagine a close up of Johnny Weir and him talking about her? Maybe even mentioning how she did at the skate charity? Need Nikki Blonsky and the RWO? Jill? there that said she was going to do her in! hahaha

I remember when Omarosa was on, I don't remember if it was her first time on or a special appearance, she was on a team for the last challenge. They were at a golf course and Omarosa caused so much angst and do nothing against the young man there, he was so upset.

In the board room, he told DT about it and said something to the effect of, I wished she haven't even came aboard the team, it was awful. DT said, Why didn't you fire her? He said, Sir, I didn't know I had that option.

I believe he lost, but he would, IMO, of won if he had. That would have been scandalous! lol

Ellie said...

Just another Ann Rule fan here. I think the Ted Bundy story was the first one I read. I was fascinated how she worked right beside him. I love true crime! Last Christmas I put a bunch of Ann Rule Books on my family Christmas list. Three different people bought me mutliple books. They have their own section now on my bookcase. I won't let myself start them until I finish up with some half read books. I even got my dad reading Ann Rule now.

I read the Karla Homolka book but skipped a couple of the 'torturous' chapters as this happened very close to home. I remember it just gripping the communites that their victims lived in.

I'm looking forward to Dmasy's remarks about Betty Broderick. There's probably no irony in the fact that so many of us are interested in sociopathic killers and sociopathic kates.




AuntieAnn said...

On another note, has anyone else heard about people going to med school and being told to find someone to marry for financial support and that you can dump them as soon as you graduate? I've heard that from numerous reliable sources, and I've seen it happen a few times myself.

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Using your spouse for support while you pursue your dream career has as a sort of Fatal Attraction mien about it. Some ex's may disappear quietly in the night, others won't take the rejection as well. It's a gamble.

Tucker's Mom said...

Oh The Humanity said... 65
Tucker's Mom said... 34
Speaking of concerts, Ringo Starr is is touring and I'm wondering if anyone has seen him lately. I'm intrigued to be able to see a real Beatle perform!

Tucker's Mom: I took my daughter to see Ringo a short time ago
******
Thanks- Ringo and his band will be at a beautiful venue that we frequent each summer, so we can opt to do lawn seats.
Last year, I passed up getting tickets to see Robert Plant and have been kicking my ass ever since!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

On another note, has anyone else heard about people going to med school and being told to find someone to marry for financial support and that you can dump them as soon as you graduate?
__________\

What does "you can dump them" mean? You're allowed to dump them? A bogus marriage ceremony, a quickie "dump" divorce especially made for professionals whose spouse works to support them while they get a degree?

That kind of sh*t has been going on for a long time; wife quits school, goes to work to support them while hubby goes off to school. Later hubby finds cute young girl who's not overworked and tired and goodbye 1st wife.

Millicent said...

I am one of eight said:
Now if she was on Amazing Race, I would have to suffer through it.
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First of all, I am one of 8 (kids) and wonder if that's what your handle means too :)

Second, how are you enjoying this season TAR so far? Apparently some people don't like the cowboy brothers, but they are my favorites and have been since the first time they were on the show. Have they ever fought once or had a real melt down? (If so, I don't recall it.) They are almost always very polite, tackle each challenge without whining about it, and are really supportive of each other.

I've got thoughts about the other teams as well, but since this isn't a TAR fan board, I'll stop here :)

getofftwitter said...

Layla: Kate has done that before. She missed Halloween to be on the View, so she can Halloween instead. She missed last years Halloween too. Her kids are brand/merchandise to her. If it were possible, Kate, would put the kids in a box, preserve them at 4-5 years old & put them on a shelf, until she needs them next. You know, take them off the shelf, dress them alike, wind them up, or put quarters in them, and have them preform like a circus act, when done put back on shelf. The tups have to do everything together. Because they are a set, team, 6 pk, call them what you will. Kate does not see individuals.

Millicent said...

Layla said... 61

Tucker's Mom (58) said...
No, silly!
Kate will have Steve fetch the people on the street!
DUH!
:-)
***********
But I thought Steve's job was to keep the unwashed masses away from her...
******
First, he will use his rat claws to yank the cameras from their hands, then he'll strong arm them into the venue. This applies only to ladies and males over the age of 65 who look fairly fragile. He'll give a wide berth to anyone who looks like they might put up a fight lol.

getofftwitter said...

I would not be surprised if they are taking the pics for the People issue to come out now, and /or Kates birthday too.

Tucker's Mom said...

On another note, has anyone else heard about people going to med school and being told to find someone to marry for financial support and that you can dump them as soon as you graduate? I've heard that from numerous reliable sources, and I've seen it happen a few times myself.

This case reminds me of the one recently in the headlines. Martin MacNeill forced his wife to undergo plastic surgery and killed her with pain meds. What's the deal with doctor/lawyer degrees?

PJ
*****
I don't know that a significant percentage of pre med students go on the prowl for a sugar mommy or daddy.
That said, I believe that there is a HUGE incentive to stay married to a spouse that pulls in a decent salary, for two main reasons.
One is that you likely won't be living on Ramen noodles and share a small apartment and one bathroom with 3 other smelly cretans for 8 years. You will also have your incidentals paid for, like a car, insurance, food, maybe rent/mortgage.
The second is that a spouse with a good income WILL help you to qualify for more/better loans, and can help refinance loans.
The bottom line is that on many levels, mainly financial, it will be a much easier ride than going it all alone for THAT long.

Not that I would know anything about of that ;-)

Tucker's Mom said...

On the other side of why what I called the "marital mortality rate" associate with medical school is the prevalent practice of indoctrinating the cohorts like sheep, into what they, the powers that be, at any given school, believe is the rarified air which they breathe.
They are no longer mere mortals, like their spouses, and you, the spouse, are no longer worthy.

I wish I was kidding.

getofftwitter said...

If Kate does manage to get on CA: Kate has probably a couple of people she could hit up for money. Mark Burnett, Roma Downey, Sherry Shepard, Barbara Wah Wah, Kendra from CWS, Katie Couric, her lackey devotie fans, Her buddy in the running world guy, the Irwins, who else?

Call Me Crazy said...

Marie said... 45

I personally wouldn't go on that show unless I knew I had plenty of people who could donate to my charity. It seems to be pretty embarrassing for those celebs who do not have the friends to donate. I can't imagine who Kate would try to recruit for that. Steve? Deanna? Milo?
__________________________

I'm with you, Marie. But we are rational-thinking people. TFW is just completely delusional. She probably thinks that her BFFs Taylor Swift and Terri Irwin would be honored to throw wads of money her way.

If she does end up on CA, it would be wonderful if the teams were tasked with creating a unique food item and selling it to the public (they do this frequently). She would probably volunteer to be Project Manager because she "wrote" a cookbook. Can you just imagine what kind of slop she would come up with? The possibilities are endless.

I am One of Eight said...

Millicent- Yes, I am one of eight children. Kate has copied and butchered many of my past times and traditions,camping at Grand Canyon, homemade pizzas, Sound of Music, owning a bird for just a few.
My life is nothing like her kids and I feel bad for them.
As for Amazing Race, Cowboys are my favorite and always have been. They play well, it is hard to believe they haven't won yet. My daughter says when she turns 21 that we are trying out for it! Gives me a couple yeara to get in shape!

Serendipity said...

Sandie ‏@SandieBellz 23m
Come on, Kate. Yay or nay to Celebrity Apprentice? @Kateplusmy8

Lauren ‏@ljohnson2006 1h
@Kateplusmy8 are the celeb apprentice rumors true?

Are the sheep really this stupid that they don't understand confidentiality -- that this info cannot be divulged until the "official" release is given by those authorized to disclose it? Do they think that since they are her faithful followers that they are entitled to know this before anyone else?

AuntieAnn said...

Tucker's Mom said... 76

On the other side of why what I called the "marital mortality rate" associate with medical school is the prevalent practice of indoctrinating the cohorts like sheep, into what they, the powers that be, at any given school, believe is the rarified air which they breathe.
They are no longer mere mortals, like their spouses, and you, the spouse, are no longer worthy.

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Ouch.
And I totally agree.

Serendipity said...

This case reminds me of the one recently in the headlines. Martin MacNeill forced his wife to undergo plastic surgery and killed her with pain meds. What's the deal with doctor/lawyer degrees?

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I've know a few who have been both. When they obtain their medical degrees and practice medicine for a few years, often they become involved in medical issues that may also be legal issues as well. In dealing with patients who need assistance and expertise in medical matters, their research often leads them to the legal side of things (malpractice, insurance, personal injuries, dealing with denied medical claims, etc) and since they do have that medical knowledge under their belts, they find that experience very valuable, and therefore they change careers and become attorneys. Many times they still keep their license as a physician while at the same time practice law.

PatK said...

Anonymous said... 86
PatK said... 123
If Kate is indeed filming during the kids' Spring Break, I hope she promised them a really neat trip this summer to make up for it.

Bitch.

Is every mother who works during spring break a bitch, or just Kate? It is 2014 and working women are hardly an anomaly these days.

&&&&&&&&

Nope, just Kate. Her kids always get the short end of the vacation stick because putting her toothy mug on tv is more important. Other moms who have normal jobs and no other options don't count as bitches. Okay?

Tucker's Mom said...

Speaking of mysteries, this Malaysia plane that went missing is still as much of an enigma all these days later.
What in the world could have happened?
Reports now are that the plane did a 180 and flew for a little over an additional hour.
How could no one have noted that the plane was going in the opposite direction, even though it was at night?
There was no announcement about the change of course?
Not one passenger picked up a phone and called or texted anyone?

So, so weird and scary.

Formerly Duped said...

Millicent said... 76
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I am with you and I am One of Eight. (Joy likes the AR too) I have always rooted for the Cowboys b/c of their attitude and the fact that they could probably use the money. I mentioned yesterday that I think these shows should not have contestants who are already wealthy. I remember one of the brothers saying when something goes wrong, there is "no use hootin' and hollerin', just get the job done." I think this is good life advice, as well ! I can't imagine why anyone would not like these guys who play a clean game and work as a true team.

Amy2 said...

If Kate does do CA, I wonder which Kate will show up.

Early Kate: wearing sweatpants
Hooker Kate: Short skirts, high heels, low cut tops
Baby Kate: wearing baby doll dresses that when she bends over her Ta Ta’s show
DWTS Kate: Sitting in the audience wearing a clinging dress that shows her thong through the dress
Hat Kate: wearing the feather hat she wore at Kentucky Derby
Red Cross Kate: appearing to wear nothing but a blanket

I just couldn’t resist.

NJGal51 said...

getofftwitter said... 82
If Kate does manage to get on CA: Kate has probably a couple of people she could hit up for money. Mark Burnett, Roma Downey, Sherry Shepard, Barbara Wah Wah, Kendra from CWS, Katie Couric, her lackey devotie fans, Her buddy in the running world guy, the Irwins, who else?
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I don't think that anyone listed is a social, money giving friend and I doubt that she's got any of their personal phone numbers. If they were friends socially we'd have seen TFW out and about with them. As far as her legions of fans go, they'd better show up to buy whatever she's hawking because their checks won't amount to much.

I'm also a true crime fan but more than that I love shows like Criminal Minds and The Following.

Tucker's Mom said...

I mentioned yesterday that I think these shows should not have contestants who are already wealthy.
******
Did anyone catch the show, "Lights, Cameras, Christmas!" last year?
It was 4 or so specials where families around the country competed to win the most outragreous, over the top Christmas displays.
Well, the rich families were killing, of course, will unlimited funds and much more time, and those with more limited means just lost every time.
Moreover, the wealthy winners were awarded HUGE money!
Uh.. not fair!

alberta rose said...

Tucker's Mom said... 80

On another note, has anyone else heard about people going to med school and being told to find someone to marry for financial support and that you can dump them as soon as you graduate? I've heard that from numerous reliable sources, and I've seen it happen a few times myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
This happened to a friend of my aunt's daughter in small town Saskatchewan. Except he didn't marry her, he just told her they would get married once his practice was up and running... she was 38 when he unceremoniously turned her in for a newer model. So sad cuz she really wanted a family so badly and wasted all that time with him, paying his way. She never did have kids and hasn;t been in a relationship since. I can't say for sure that anyone told him to do that, he might have come up with it on his own!!

Kate is a twit said...

getofftwitter said... 82
If Kate does manage to get on CA: Kate has probably a couple of people she could hit up for money. Mark Burnett, Roma Downey, Sherry Shepard, Barbara Wah Wah, Kendra from CWS, Katie Couric...
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I doubt that Mark Burnett would be able to donate to Kate since he is one of the producers of the show. As far as the others, they are not "friends" of Kate, they are merely acquaintances who she has met a few times. Other than Kate following some of them on twitter, I doubt Kate has any contact with any of them.

Millicent said...

getofftwitter said... 82
If Kate does manage to get on CA: Kate has probably a couple of people she could hit up for money. Mark Burnett, Roma Downey, Sherry Shepard, Barbara Wah Wah, Kendra from CWS, Katie Couric, her lackey devotie fans, Her buddy in the running world guy, the Irwins, who else?
******
Tend to agree with NJGal - these are people Kate might follow on Twitter, but they are barely acquaintances, and certainly not friends. (Well, except for Milo and Emily, her most devoted two fans.)

A thought did just occur to me though - if WOS is chosen to be a contestant, do you think the producers would provide her with a couple deep pocket "friends," to show up and drop off a big check? In return, that person gets to be briefly on tv, shown being generous. I know nothing on reality tv is real -- so this would not surprise me one bit.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

While I wasn't exactly a sugar momma at the tender age of 22, I did marry and support us through my husband's med school years. I also put my own grad school plans on hold, finishing when he started his residency. Honestly, since med students are usually fairly young, I doubt many go looking for rich spouses to support them. it was a different era for Betty Broderick, about a decade earlier than me. Plus her doctor husband was an a-hole as it turned out, and she was crazy, match made not in heaven. Murder, however, is never a good idea.

Millicent said...

I am One of Eight said:
As for Amazing Race, Cowboys are my favorite and always have been. They play well, it is hard to believe they haven't won yet. My daughter says when she turns 21 that we are trying out for it! Gives me a couple yeara to get in shape!
*******************
I wonder about this as well. I think it may in part be because they always have a big target on themselves right from the start. Other teams know they are good and would like to see them eliminated ASAP. Secondly, they are such a tight team, and they purposely run "their own race" versus trying to form any loose alliances with other teams. This may hurt them sometimes.

Formerly Duped said:
I remember one of the brothers saying when something goes wrong, there is "no use hootin' and hollerin', just get the job done." I think this is good life advice, as well ! I can't imagine why anyone would not like these guys who play a clean game and work as a true team.
******
I was surprised too. I was reading a message board for fans of this show, and all I can figure is some people think these two are arrogant, or they have a preconceived notion that cowboys are intolerant of other races, etc. I have seen no evidence of either trait. I think their parents did a good job raising these two :)

JMO said...

Amy2 said... 92
If Kate does do CA, I wonder which Kate will show up.

Early Kate: wearing sweatpants
Hooker Kate: Short skirts, high heels, low cut tops
Baby Kate: wearing baby doll dresses that when she bends over her Ta Ta’s show
DWTS Kate: Sitting in the audience wearing a clinging dress that shows her thong through the dress
Hat Kate: wearing the feather hat she wore at Kentucky Derby
Red Cross Kate: appearing to wear nothing but a blanket

I just couldn’t resist.

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OMG- This is hilarious. The many personas of narcissist Kate. I do think she will be on CA which requires that you work well with others. We all know how well she works with others. Not so much.

DT tends to keep contestants who are controversial (for ratings- think Gary Busey?) so I think she will survive a few rounds based on the controversial factor.

There are a few people who work really hard for their charities. Don't think Kate will be one of them. Simply air time for her. Think Red Cross and Kate's desire to work for anyone but herself.

JMO said...

NJGal51 said... 93 -----------------------------

I totally agree. The people listed are very peripheral and not likely to contribute funds. Maybe Milo can make a huge contribution : )

Serendipity said...

Anonymous said... 86
PatK said... 123
If Kate is indeed filming during the kids' Spring Break, I hope she promised them a really neat trip this summer to make up for it.

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I think those kids have traveled enough in their young lives to be able to miss a few spring break trips. They've been to more places than many folks will get to in their lifetimes. That said, if she's at home and is just too cheap to take them anywhere, or they are missing spring break due to her filming, that just isn't right.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Are the sheep really this stupid that they don't understand confidentiality -- that this info cannot be divulged until the "official" release is given by those authorized to disclose it? Do they think that since they are her faithful followers that they are entitled to know this before anyone else?

&&&&&&&&&&&&

Yes, and yes.

Kate is a twit said...

OT-in other news, Dotty Sandusky did an interview with Matt Lauer that will be aired on the Today Show tomorrow. Apparently, she's still defending Jerry and has this to say:

""I'm not a weak spouse,'' she replied. "As you know...they call me 'Sarge' because Jerry said I kept everybody in line. If they want to say that, let them say that. I know who I am. And I know who Jerry is. And I know he did not do the horrible crimes that he's convicted of.

"That's one thing I was taught by my parents. And that's something that we've taught our kids, to always be truthful."

http://www.today.com/news/jerry-sanduskys-wife-appear-today-wednesday-2D79356547

Didn't one of their adopted kids say that Jerry also molested him and testified to that at his trial?

willowmom said...

IMO, the kids probably are not missing any spring break fun because WOS is filming CA; but I do wonder about a photo shoot for People for a "6 turn 10" story.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate is a twit said... 103
OT-in other news, Dotty Sandusky did an interview with Matt Lauer that will be aired on the Today Show tomorrow. Apparently, she's still defending Jerry and has this to say:
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I was going to post this as a heads up, too.
The teaser made it look like she is in huge denial and feels bad for this monster.

Tucker's Mom said...

Dottie Sandusky buried her head in the sand a long, long, long time ago.
Yeah, she's a little old lady, but I'm not fooled.

Tucker's Mom said...

Sure the G kids have traveled far and wide, but they were never leisurely vacations, they were working, filming and hitting their marks and locations.
At least for me, I don't consider their experiences the same as mine, and others, when it comes to vacations and travel etc.
There are too many eye witness reports that filming is quick, matter of fact, and done on a tight schedule.
What you see is not what they got.
I don't think those kids need any more luxury travels. I think they need regular kid experiences and for Kate to at least try to honor her promise about traditions.
If they're not filming, they're rarely doing anything off the compound and I do believe they deserve more.

Turtle Logic said...

TFW only knows a few ways of grifting, er, I mean fundraising:
1. Selling photos or signed books
2. Asking for "love offerings"
3. Mentioning companies/reviews on twitter or her 'blog' for freebies

None of these "skills" will be useful when trying to raise money for an actual charity, especially given her current state of notoriety. People are on to her love offering scheme, not many will pay $20 for a signed photo anymore, her cookbook is a joke, and look what happened to NoNetz.

I would watch CA just to see her being called out by her fellow cast mates. The epic meltdowns alone would be worth watching.

NJGal51 said...

CA has not started to shoot yet. They normally shoot in the April/May/June timeframe. If you watch you'll see that it always seems to be nice weather when they're doing the tasks. for the ride of shame down the elevator and the filming in the limo. You can tell that the scenes are filmed at different times because of they way they're dressed for the tasks and the boardroom firing scenes and the way they're dressed differently when they leave the elevator to get in to the limo.

NJGal51 said...

Millicent - I don't think they'll give TFW any "deep pocket" friends because it would ruin the game and they haven't done it for any of the stars in the past.

swingsandroundabouts said...

OT. I am also a fan of TAR and am also rooting for the cowboys. They have a great attitude and just power through the challenges. I was glad to see the first two eliminated, and now I would like to see a certain mother/son duo go next. Sorry to those who like them.

I too was married at 22 and helped put my husband through school. In retrospect those times were difficult financially but we also had some really great times and we learned a lot together. I think we appreciated the small things so much more. We are still together 44 years later and still having new adventures together. So he didn't dump me. LOL

I have not watched CA every year, but I did watch the time that Joan Rivers was on and I felt that Annie Duke was robbed. I dislike Donald Trump so much that I'd rather not watch. DT instigates fights just before the show is about to air and usually with women. A very cynical move to get publicity for the show. I'd like to see him take on a man for a change.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

I do not think these children need to travel per se on their school breaks, but it does seem a shame that they also do not seem to do anything fun or different - so much to explore in anyone's part of the world: parks, museums, theme parks, movies. If they had ties with family, could be visiting grandparents or overnights with cousins. She keeps them locked up in a big house, and repeats the same stuff over and over: pizza night, movie night ( and her choice there), the pool, the pool, the pool.
Acknowledging that we were mere mediocre parents, we used spring break as an opportunity to take a car trip in the family minivan - northern CA and Oregon was one adventure, Indian pueblos and Carlsbad Caverns were another. The kids bickered across miles of highways, but today,they really have fond memories of spring break. TFW really does not get it.

Rhythm Of Life said...

I was reading Kate's TL, and the back and forth mud-slinging between the haters and the sheeple is absolutely appalling...so immature, so juvenile. It's hard to believe that these are adults, many of whom are parents. Is this what they teach their kids? Name-calling and degrading bashing back and forth is acceptable? Would they be embarrassed if their children saw the kind of stuff that they spew forth? I'm not pearl-clutching, nor is it a holier-than-thou attitude. I'm just surprised by the behavior (by adults) that goes on there.

Rhythm Of Life said...

Sure the G kids have traveled far and wide, but they were never leisurely vacations, they were working, filming and hitting their marks and locations.

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Didn't they go to the beach last year on that Relax at the Beach vacation, the one that was suspected as a freebie given by someone (Milo)? I don't think that they were working then, were they?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

My only issue with the trips is that the amount of fun and games and celebrity lifestyle she has partaken in because of her kids has always been grossly out of proportion to the leftovers and cast off the kids get. It's not fair. They gave her this lifestyle at great personal expense and she is benefiting the most. It's messed up, always has been and always will until she stops this.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 9m
@Kateplusmy8 No tweets...so that means ur A. Busy/No Time B. Too Stressed C. Too Tired or D. ALL OF THE ABOVE :) We know U love us anyway!

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lol! Milo, Milo, Milo. If Kate can't tweet because she is stressed and tired when she has five days a week, ALL DAY to herself, then what in heaven's name is she going to be if she's working on CA? She'll never survive.

Jeanne said...

I think that Kate and her publicist campaign very hard to get her on CA. It's one of the few choices available to her other than getting her own show. She's been rumored a number of times before IIRC. I don't know if there is any chance in reality. I might actually enjoy her trying to explain herself to Trump. Well, um, I um, have 8 children, um, so I didn't have the energy for this, um, honestly.

She would do it in a second given the chance. I just want to know how they'll accomodate Steve. And no matter what she says or does her sheeple will praise her as the best contestant EVER.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

No worries Bitchy I'm still doing the recaps I'm just pretty behind. I was out of town on business and I never seemed to recover. I don't know how people do that on a regular basis. I do have the second to last one almost done and I'll post it ASAP!

NJGal51 said...

@Truth_Teller201: @Kateplusmy8 Hope the rumor that my favorite mom of 8 will be on Celebrity Apprentice is true! Look forward to seeing you on a classy show!
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Bwahahahahahahahahaha! I love CA but it is definitely not a classy show.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

For the multiple choice question for TFW, I'm going to add this one:
E) Getting her narcissistic supply filled by endless speculation about
CA, so doesn't need to interact with her mediocre fans...

NJGal51 said...

@MiloandJack: @BarbGilmer @Kateplusmy8 Yes...our lady of 8 wants 2escape...& perpetually stay at 38! LOL #SorryTimeMarchesOn :)
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That's right Milo, keep reminding her that she's not getting any younger. The older she gets the less chance she has of getting her dream job or wrestling that mic away from anyone. There's always someone younger, prettier and more talented waiting in the wings.

localyocul said...

Amy2 said... 91
If Kate does do CA, I wonder which Kate will show up.


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That's interesting because I was thinking about how Jon is a chameleon. He kind of adheres to the person he is with. With TFW, he was the straight-laced, "Christian" white collar guy. Then with Hailey he moved to NYC and was into Judaism. He was not very public when he was with I-Forget-Her-Name. Now, he is with someone who dresses very casually and smokes like a chimney and swears like a sailor and so does he. It's as if he never developed his true self. And TFW never did either

Sleepless In Seattle said...

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@Kateplusmy8 That's blatant negligence and child endangerment. Pet birds carry all kinds of disease that can be transmitted to people.

Giving a piece of apple to a bird is not negligence (blatant or otherwise), nor is it child endangerment. Yes, infected birds can transmit diseases to humans through inhaling fecal dust or coming into direct contact with bird droppings and not practicing hygiene, or eating something that contains bird droppings. I doubt if the bird has popped on that apple.

What is negligence is that, despite many warnings, she still allows that bird to perch on her kids' shoulders. She'll learn, eventually, after something frightens it, and it takes a nasty chunk out of the shoulder or face. Tweeters have tried to tell her this, but she just seems to take the "talk to the hand" approach. Kate always knows best.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

It's as if he never developed his true self. And TFW never did either

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I don't think that's an unfair statement. I'm not really sure who either of them are. I do think Kate is more guilty of this than Jon, as there are some things that Jon has very clearly stuck to without wavering whereas I have no idea if Kate has ever adhered to any set of values in her life.

If I recall I even posted about this a few months ago, wondering who exactly is Kate? I forgot why I posted that, I'm sure it must have been in response to yet another persona she had adopted on twitter for a brief time. I find her representations of both herself and the kids on twitter to be without any depth or meaning. Very flat and meaningless.

lukebandit said...

Sorry, the post I posted about Omarosa. I was really sleepy at the clinic and was trying to finish. I meant to say that the guy who was the project manager in the finals, had had it up the sky how Omarosa was acting.

It was like she was sabotaging everything. He would of loved to had fire her, but he thought that he didn't have that option. DT would of loved it if he would of fired her, because it would of been on every tabloid and talk of the town.

DT would of Hired Him.

If kate takes the kids to NYC to People, Jon has to give her permission. I hope he refuses. She may have or will do it this week because of spring break.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

@Truth_Teller201: @Kateplusmy8 Hope the rumor that my favorite mom of 8 will be on Celebrity Apprentice is true! Look forward to seeing you on a classy show!
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Bwahahahahahahahahaha! I love CA but it is definitely not a classy show.

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LOL!! That tweetie buddy is not the sharpest tool in the shed, and that's being kind! :)

Dmasy said...

Did anyone watch the Betty Broderick movie this afternoon?

Anyone see it for the first time?

I recorded it and have watched some of my favorite parts.

capecodmama said...

I've never watched CA and don't plan on it. However, if Johnny Weir is on I may have to watch it every now and again just to see what the hell he's wearing. His wardrobe during the Olympics was interesting indeed and I think it was a big FU to Vladimir Putin.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


I've never watched CA and don't plan on it. However, if Johnny Weir is on I may have to watch it every now and again just to see what the hell he's wearing. His wardrobe during the Olympics was interesting indeed and I think it was a big FU to Vladimir Putin.


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I love him, and I think he's sharp as a tack. I think what he said about Russia was very calculated. He said Russia loved him, was incredibly welcome and open to him, and he never once had a problem.

The way I took that he was basically saying your people, Putin, don't have a problem with me. It's only YOU that has a problem with me, and you are not doing what your people want. YOU are not IN TOUCH with the wishes of the masses. He made him look like a fool. I thought that was truly brilliant.

Meagler said...

Just got the news folks!! YAY!!! Everything is okay !! YAY!! Feeling so blessed! Crying tears of Joy!! prayers Answered!!

The daughter has a vein that isnt where it should be and it is running in front of the aorta and so that is what looked like the tear. Nothing to worry about, and she can go back to normal activities. I have never felt so relieved !!!!

Thank you for all your support!!

Now just have to get the same report for my son. he should be going for CT scan in neext few weeks!!

TYJ!! :D

Ingrid said...

Meagler that is wonderful news! I hope your son's is just as good.

Ex Nurse said...

Meagler, what great news for your family!

Bitchy Pants said...

Wonderful news, Meagler! Prayers for the same result for your son.

TLC stinks said...

If her negotiations with CA is ANYTHING like THE DEMANDS she used to make while filming, she may not get offered a spot. I think that is what is going on since she has been fairly quiet on Twitter. I am positive she expects Steve to be included as her escort/bodyguard whether she pays or CA does.

Vanessa said...

Wonderful news Meagler!

sparkle said...

NJGal51 said... 119
@Truth_Teller201: @Kateplusmy8 Hope the rumor that my favorite mom of 8 will be on Celebrity Apprentice is true! Look forward to seeing you on a classy show!
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Bwahahahahahahahahaha! I love CA but it is definitely not a classy show.
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I do appreciate the charity aspect of it, but after that I agree with you-Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaha! Classy my foot!

I once saw an interview with Donald where the interviewer was questioning him about how it seems to be hard for him to get celebs on board for the show. With a straight face, Donald told the interviewer that he takes calls all day from major Hollywod power players begging to be on the show. He said that there are so many to choose from, they have a very long process of elimination to whittle it down. He said this while still not cracking a smile. It's as if he actually believes this to be true. That is Kate level delusion.

capecodmama said...

Meagler...That is great news. Here's hoping things go just as well for your son.

Dmasy said...

Meagler, what wonderful news for your family. Thank you for sharing your relief and joy with us.

Formerly Duped said...

meagler:

What blessed relief! I hope it's repeated with your son. The waiting is so hard...all the best.

NJGal51 said...

Great news Meagler. Hoping and praying that the news on your son is just as good.

Tucker's Mom said...

Meagler said... 130
Just got the news folks!! YAY!!! Everything is okay !! YAY!! Feeling so blessed! Crying tears of Joy!! prayers Answered!!
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Great news, Meagler!
It seemed to take forever, so I can't imagine the agony waiting was for you.
I was hoping no news is good news, and this is the best news- back to normal.
You must feel light as a feather!

Anonymous said...

Bindi Irwin's grandfather speaks out. Good on ya, Mate!

http://www.ecorazzi.com/2014/03/10/bindi-irwins-grandfather-disapproves-of-seaworld-partnership/

PJ

Anonymous said...

(Leslie)
LukeBandit: "Need Nikki Blonsky and the RWO? Jill? there that said she was going to do her in! hahaha"

Huh? Can you explain this please. Thanks

I predict if Kate is on CA, she will take the road of redemption. She will try her best to be everything she isn't. Very nice, very helpful, no breakdowns, etc. She knows her horrible repuation has caused her great angst and therefore she will try her best to be different than what people have come to expect from her. Whether she can accomplish this will be another thing. NeNe from the Real Housewives received a check for $25,000. She said so on tv. But she is also the highest paid reality star in all of the Real Housewives series and was on Glee.

The interesting thing is Kate will not have Steve to rely on. At least not during the filming. That will really cripple her emotionally. And Kate will have to be creative and pull very long hours. I think it will be interesting to see her in another entire envirnoment.

If she is boring and doesn't bring drama then I think they will make her time there short. I predict she will be so scared and incompetent that she will be very quiet on the show.

I think she is so desperate that she will sign up for this. It will be a lot of camera time and interviews for her. She knows she is fading in the public eye. Remember she said a few months ago that there was huge interest/opportunites in her. I wish someone would question her about this lie.

Hulu on the internet may show the entire episodes of CA the day after. And it was the last few years too.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

http://www.ecorazzi.com/2014/03/10/bindi-irwins-grandfather-disapproves-of-seaworld-partnership/

PJ

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Oh, sh^%!

How bad is it when your own GRANDATHER is saying WTH!

He HATES Terri, you can just sense it. HATES. This is not the first time he's thrown her under the bus. Terri, you're an idiot and a half.

Mel said...

I do think Kate is more guilty of this than Jon, as there are some things that Jon has very clearly stuck to without wavering whereas I have no idea if Kate has ever adhered to any set of values in her life.

...yet another persona she had adopted on twitter for a brief time. I find her representations of both herself and the kids on twitter to be without any depth or meaning. Very flat and meaningless.


Agree. Jon does seem to be a chameleon as far as adopting the characteristics of whoever is the current girlfriend, but he appears to be very steady in how he is as a dad. That doesn't seem to ever change.

Whereas the kids must be so confused about their mother. They never know which mom is going to show up. Thus their hesitancy in interacting with her...the way they seem to be walking on eggshells around her.

Both Jon and TFW have a lot of growing up left to do, but TFW far more than Jon, IMO. He has a core of a real self in there someplace; TFW will just be whoever she has to be to get herself on teevee.

Anonymous said...

Oh, sh^%!

Admin said...
How bad is it when your own GRANDATHER is saying WTH!

He HATES Terri, you can just sense it. HATES. This is not the first time he's thrown her under the bus. Terri, you're an idiot and a half.

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Although I don't follow these people or their endeavors, I have long had a strong sense of there being animosity between Teri and Grandpa. Don't ask me why, just a gut feeling. I guess I should google it to confirm.

PJ

Mel said...

I predict she will be so scared and incompetent that she will be very quiet on the show.

I think so, too. Remember how quiet she was on the The View when she guest hosted? Didn't establish a presence in the least. She was just a scared, silent little mouse in the corner.
And she thinks she owns that mic. Not.

Her own show was different because she it's easy to intimidate and bully a bunch of little kids. Can't do that so much to adults.

Notice how she didn't try to bully Hank on CWS, although she did try to flirt with him....remember that sultry come-hither look she gave him when she was in the kitchen doorway?

That sultry look isn't going to work so well on Johnny Weir. And I doubt she's going to be able to bully him. What's she gonna do? Have Steve take him out back and arm wrestle him?

Anonymous said...

Ha! Who knew? (not me, obviously) The Irwin drama has been going on for years.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/archive/news/bob-terri-irwin-rift-bob-quits-zoo/story-e6frf0a0-1111115688056

PJ

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I remember we talked about it here because we were discussing the many similarities between Terri and Kate, including not getting along with extended family members.

"The staffer said the falling out between Bob and Terri came after Mr Irwin spoke to his daughter-in-law "a few weeks ago'' about the treatment of staff, the management of Wildlife Warriors and "animal-welfare issues''."

What Bob kept saying in his official statement was that he wanted to focus on conservation, that he was not happy that he couldn't focus on conservation. Implying Terri was not focused on conservation. I think you can easily take that to mean she is focused on making a buck off the kids. That's the obvious interpretation.

Anonymous said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 148
I remember we talked about it here because we were discussing the many similarities between Terri and Kate, including not getting along with extended family members.

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I can see that they would have a lot in common. I think they recognize a kindred spirit when they see one. A long distance relationship (if one exists) is the only way they could tolerate one another.

PJ

Tucker's Mom said...

My guess is that Kate would be rolled over very quickly on CA.
She's been a big fish in a little pond on K+8 and J+K+8, and of course demonstrated the ability to win a battle of wills with a 3-year old, but this is different.
CA has far stronger personalities, and I think Kate's Achilles heel will once again be her downfall-she is not an actor, performer, competitor, or athlete.
She is a woman who had too many kids at once, by sheer dumb luck, and maybe a little help from "Karen Kauffman".

Call Me Crazy said...

Meagler - That is wonderful news! Thanks for sharing it with us. I am so happy for you and your family. I hope everything turns out just as well for your son.

lukebandit said...

Nikki Blonsky and Jill from RHWO? have had run ins with TCFW. She was in nasty mode to both of them. Steve backed her up. Can you imagine what Johnny Weir and the ladies would say about her during, after a task? Getting upset because she is not doing her fair share of the load.

Meagler!!! Happy, Happy, Happy for you, your dear daughter and family! Praying the same happens to your dear son. I know, the waiting is the worst part.

It is just a shame that Betty Broderick could of went and found a good lawyer that would take her case and her and Dan B could of settled out of court. She could of taken her settlement and started a new life with joint custody with her children. I wished she hadn't of killed Dan, his new wife and her unborn child.

Dan B penalized her every time she called and it was taped on the machine when she would curse. It was what a couple of hundred dollars each time. She did this many times. How can he be allowed to do that? Also, on the movie, her little boy overheard his mother leave a message and the look on his face and body language was horrible. I felt so bad for him. The scene to me is hard to watch.

My ex was such a jerk when he was leaving. 2 of my ds, ages 15 and 16 were in the house crawled up into fetal position while he was outside ripping the van seats out of the back of the van that I loved and threw them down and told me that I could sell them for money, he didn't need them. My oldest ds was 18 and at work.

He also threw over to the neighbors yard my mother's 9x13 restaurant pan (clean, I had in there to get back to my mother) and I managed to go over and get it. My mother was so upset about that because she had made many meals over 19 years feeding us AND HIM. So hurtful and disrespectful, all the way around.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Is anyone else having this really bizarre "winter sandwich" weather? High yesterday of nearly 70 with kids outside playing basketball in tee shirts, in the 60s today, plunging to temps in the teens tonight, with windchills minus zero and snow, and then back up into the 50s and 60s this weekend. We may have a slippery/icy commute again tomorrow morning. You just never know from one day to the next what's going to be out there.

Meagler -- great news! Many sighs of relief for you!

prairiemary said...

Great news Meagler!! Pray that you get such great news about your son as well!

prairiemary said...

I watch CA ever season, never missed a show, not ashamed to say it! I have no kids left at home, so have the time. I don't remember any mom ever talking about her children while on CA, Holly Robinson-Peet(sp?) sure never. I wonder if DT will allow tfw to constantly discuss her kids on the show, or tell her to save it for when they are not taping?

Millicent said...

Meagler - that is wonderful news on your daughter's behalf. I can only imagine how relieved and joyful you feel :) I hope you will similar good news for your son very soon!

Turtle Logic said...

I just read on People.com that Matt and Amy Roloff have separated. They always seemed to have a lot of tension between them, so it's not really surprising to me. Another TLC reality family bites the dust.

Millicent said...

Jeanne said:
I just want to know how they'll accomodate Steve.
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That's something I wonder about too. I am sure there have been contestants in the past who had entourages, including personal security. But they are never shown on film with those entourages and/or body guards present.

I also think whether Kate gets selected as a contestant or not will tell us whether CA is in its death throes. If she makes it on, it's probably on its last legs and producers are having trouble getting actual celebrities to participate. Choosing Kate as a contestant means they're scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Millicent said...

swingsandroundabouts said:
now I would like to see a certain mother/son duo go next. Sorry to those who like them.
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I like Margie, the mom and I don't actively dislike Luke, the son. However, I wonder if in addition to being deaf, Luke has some other emotional or mental delays? Or has his mom, in her deep love and concern for his well-being, inadvertently caused him to not quite grow up? He lacks a level of maturity and self-control that I believe cannot be entirely attributed to his deafness.

So yes, I too would like to say goodbye to this duo, wish them well, and wish never to see them grace another TAR season again.

Millicent said...

kate is a twit said:
Didn't one of their adopted kids say that Jerry also molested him and testified to that at his trial?
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Yes, I do believe so. Dotty is in deep denial and will probably never accept the truth, because what does that make her? Someone who turned a blind eye to what was literally going on right in her own home. I imagine she is a very lonely woman and perhaps deservedly so.
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NJGal51 said... 110
Millicent - I don't think they'll give TFW any "deep pocket" friends because it would ruin the game and they haven't done it for any of the stars in the past.
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Good!

Anonymous said...

Ah, so the Roloffs are separated (but still both living on the farm). Gee, what a coincidence, their next show airs March 25. I wonder if their split will mean another ratings bonanza for good old TLC. They've set the hook, let's see how many they reel in.

PJ

ANNA LOWE said...

you know, i cant help but think that somehow one of her bargaining chips for being a celebrity apprentice will involve Trump buying up all of her cookbooks boxed up down in her basement gathering dust...

Call Me Crazy said...

I predict if Kate is on CA, she will take the road of redemption. She will try her best to be everything she isn't. Very nice, very helpful, no breakdowns, etc.
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I think you're right, Leslie. She may TRY to take that road to redemption, but she won't make it far. The moment she feels "victimized," she will revert to her normal, charming self. All of her errors and inadequacies and laziness will be someone else's fault. A scorpion is still a scorpion.

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PA Dutch Mom - Our weather is the same. We had a couple of much warmer days, but tonight and tomorrow they are expecting freezing. I will be very glad when this winter is finally over.

lukebandit said...

Tucker's Mom said...

A little help from Karen Kauffman.

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I wonder if Jon knew about the drugs/shots that "Karen ordered". Either he found it among kate's junk and grabbed it and she didn't realize it, and he put it in his stuff to keep. Then it got thrown out into the trash by kate and Robert came along and found it.

That was so diabolical of kate to do this to herself, her future babies and Jon and family. To masterplan, manipulate Jon, the two drs. that didn't know she was seeing another dr. for the same goal. To get sympathy from the public paying taxpayers to pay for her defenseless babies. Horrible to state that when she was trying to get the same State taxpayer paid nurse for another year, that her babies were helpless because they couldn't get up and walk to the kitchen and get themselves a glass of water. First of all, actually when did kate allow them to have an actual glass? Ever?

Remember her and the girls at the tea shop with the china? So what if they accidentally break a cup. You had the money to pay for it. Of course you don't want them to do it, but making them SO nervous about it will cause it to happen. Control freak.


The signs that a poster said kate had put up in front of the gate? would they hold up in court if someone stopped and went through her trash that was in her garbage can sitting out on the road. Would fair game come into play?



Formerly Duped said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 154
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Yup. Here in MA we had warmer 50s yesterday, then today expecting rain, ice pellets and tomorrow snow and back to the 20's in the daytime, maybe single digits at night. We still have high snowbanks, thick icy bits on the sidewalks and driveway ends, yet our witch-hazel tree started blooming yesterday! What a weird winter!

Tucker's Mom said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 154
Is anyone else having this really bizarre "winter sandwich" weather?
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I'm officially sick of winter- and I'm like a little kid who loves "snow days".
It's been a real PITA with our new puppy! Usually, this time of yera, you'd need a light coat or sweater, but I've been trotting the pupster out in the snow, cold, rain- having to put on my coat, hat and scarf/mittens every blessed time!
Ugh, go away!
Today, almost 70. Tomorrow, single digits wind chills, Oh, but tonight, we're getting severe storms.
Yuck!

Layla said...

TLC stinks said... 134
If her negotiations with CA is ANYTHING like THE DEMANDS she used to make while filming, she may not get offered a spot. I think that is what is going on since she has been fairly quiet on Twitter. I am positive she expects Steve to be included as her escort/bodyguard whether she pays or CA does.
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Just imagine what TFW's demands are for doing this show. She'll want a 6-figure salary. She doens't care that all the other stars made either $16,000 or $25,000. Nope, she's special, she has 8 kids, she needs big money. And she'll want Steve's salary included, because she needs to stay safe for her 8 kids. She'll need shorter hours than anyone else because she needs to go home and spend time with her 8 kids (translation: sleeping in and going to the spa). And, of course, she won't want to be required to do as much work as everyone else because she's so exhausted-ish from raising 8 kids. She'll want DT to foot the bill for her to have her hair done at Ted Gibson, she'll want her own luxury hotel room (forget about staying with the rest of the contestants), and nightly dinners ( for two, of course) at her favorite NYC restaurants. I'd love to DT's reaction to her list of demands!

localyocul said...

Anonymous said... 162
Ah, so the Roloffs are separated (but still both living on the farm). Gee, what a coincidence, their next show airs March 25. I wonder if their split will mean another ratings bonanza for good old TLC. They've set the hook, let's see how many they reel in.

PJ

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Kind of like being separated but one living in a big house and another over the garage.

Formerly Duped said...

Millicent said... 160

swingsandroundabouts said:
now I would like to see a certain mother/son duo go next. Sorry to those who like them.
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Agree. Not sure why they were picked to race again. I liked the last team eliminated and hear they brought a lot of younger viewers in. They seemed to really enjoy the joys of traveling and the great opportunity of being on the show.The team before, I think one was more in the right, making a logical choice to keep moving, but the dynamics of her partner being very poor definitely factored into it, plus his attitude with his new partner..I cannot stand the Brenchels and not too keen on Team Toothy ( forget their names) Country Singers- they're ok but probably won't win unless they use the E.P wisely. Millicent, I checked out a few TAR forums!

Layla said...

The pressure of CA is going to bring out the "real Kate", and if she's desperate enough to take that risk, then she deserves every ugly scene that airs. How is she going to react to 16-hour days of hard work? She was exhausted after making lunch for the kids. Getting up early, not being able to go back to bed, working hard to raise money that she can't even get her greedy paws on. She won't be the main focus of the show, the other contestants will call her out on her bad attitude and failures, DT will publicly bring up all her faults, and then fire her. How are the sheep going to take all that? When Kate's crappy attitude, poor work ethic, and overall laziness are shown and pointed out publicly, are they going to be able to go back to believing she's really this uber-organized, hard working mom? When she melts down under pressure, how will the reconcile that with the positive-thinking little ray of sunshine they think she is?

Other shows will show clips of her bad behavior. Articles will be written about her failures. Who will they blame? I can just see Milo's tweets now, claiming that DT doesn't know how to run a business (you know, just like Tony D didn't know how to teach Kate to dance). And, like icing on top of the cake, this might be the perfect opportunity for Jon to get the kids away and possibly keep them away. The only thing that could make it better is if Robert Hoffman re-releases the book right as the show is starting.

Ampersmom said...

Meagler said... 130
Just got the news folks!! YAY!!! Everything is okay !! YAY!! Feeling so blessed! Crying tears of Joy!! prayers Answered!!
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How fantastic! This is wonderful news! Now on to your next round of good news :)

PatK said...

I'd love to know what Kate plans on doing with the kids during her absence. Is there a power struggle going on right now with Jon regarding right of first refusal? Are the attorneys involved? I don't see Deanna being able to take off that much time to babysit--is Ashley next on the list?

I hope Jon stays true to his word and puts his foot down.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Yes, I do believe so. Dotty is in deep denial and will probably never accept the truth, because what does that make her?

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I read the excerpts from her interview:

"Dottie Sandusky said in an interview broadcast Wednesday on NBC's "Today" show that "there was nothing that went on because I was here" in the couple's small home in State College, where some of the victims reported being abused in the basement...Sandusky said in the interview recorded Monday that she believed that her husband showered with children but "that's the generation that Jerry grew up in."

She was "here" in the house every single time when an incident allegedly took place? I find that hard to believe. I guess she also was in the showers with old Jerry and his victims. None of the molestation could possibly have taken place because she was with him every single minute. How naive can you get?

I guess she's in survival mode. She's built that wall around herself and actually is convinced that he's innocent. It's probably the only way she can get through the day. Ignorance, in her case, is bliss.

She's saying that the lawyers were in it for the money. They orchestrated this whole thing. Blame the attorneys. They set up the entire thing. Sure they did.

PA Dutch Mom said...

It is just a shame that Betty Broderick could of went and found a good lawyer that would take her case and her and Dan B could of settled out of court. She could of taken her settlement and started a new life with joint custody with her children. I wished she hadn't of killed Dan, his new wife and her unborn child.

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I don't think that this could have been settled out of court. Certainly an monetary agreement could have been drawn up, but as a narcissist, she never would have let this thing go, no matter how much money she would have been awarded. A good attorney may have been able to handle the financial aspect of it, but she was hell bent on revenge, and no among of money could have satisfied the hatred she felt for Dan. She would have eventually blown a gasket and nothing good would have come out of it. Moving on was not an option for her. Heck, at her last parole hearing in October, she still was denied parole because she didn't feel any remorse. It's been how many years, and she still hasn't let it go. A hefty monetary award would not have been the answer.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Lisa Adcox ‏@poorbabi 1h
@Cato_Cat @Kateplusmy8 @realDonaldTrump I am looking forward to seeing Kate on the show.Donald is right.U organize well, u would b great PM

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Did The Donald make a comment that Kate is a great organizer?

Millicent said...

Turtle Logic said... 158

I just read on People.com that Matt and Amy Roloff have separated. They always seemed to have a lot of tension between them, so it's not really surprising to me. Another TLC reality family bites the dust.
March 12, 2014 at 9:23 AM
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That was one of my many peeves that made me lose interest in the show - the way Matt treated Amy, and the way she kept being a doormat. The marriage was dysfunctional for a long time, if what was shown on the show was fairly accurate. They both put too much attention and energy into the two oldest twin boys, gave a smattering to the daughter, and 1% to the remaining son. Matt always rode roughshod over Amy's wishes or concerns, and always did exactly as he wanted.

I was sorry to hear they had resumed filming. As you can probably tell, I have very little positive to say about that family.

swingsandroundabouts said...

Meagler, good news. I'm sure it is a great relief for all of you.

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Millicent said... 160

swingsandroundabouts said:
now I would like to see a certain mother/son duo go next. Sorry to those who like them.
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I like Margie, the mom and I don't actively dislike Luke, the son. However, I wonder if in addition to being deaf, Luke has some other emotional or mental delays? Or has his mom, in her deep love and concern for his well-being, inadvertently caused him to not quite grow up? He lacks a level of maturity and self-control that I believe cannot be entirely attributed to his deafness.

So yes, I too would like to say goodbye to this duo, wish them well, and wish never to see them grace another TAR season again.

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Agreed. He seems to have been rather coddled and protected. Understandably, I guess, but it has not been in his best interest. JMO

Midnight Madness said...

I saw that the China 64 Vector tweeter has really been spamming Kate's TL. Who or what is this? Is it a bot, or just a crazy person? The tweets make no sense whatsoever. Does anyone interact with him/her, have any kind of a "conversation," or is this tweeter basically ignored? I wonder if the "regs" over there know who this is.

Call Me Crazy said...

The one thing we know is that TFW is very, very good at grifting. It is possible she could contact a bunch of companies and get them to each pony up small amounts of maybe $1K - $5K in cash/merchandise in return for TV exposure. It may be the only way they could afford to have their product seen or mentioned on television, considering the average cost of a 30-second prime-time ad for even this declining show is probably upwards of $40K.

Now whether she would use that superior grifting skill remains to be seen. Chances are, she would be too lazy to work that hard.

getofftwitter said...

I'm for one am not surprised that the Roloffs are separated, this has been coming on for a long time. Amy is probably tired of Matt doing things with out telling her, signing probably contracts with out telling her or asking her. Any normal person would get angry, and tired of finding out last. Matt Roloff is a very annoying person, he wants it all, but never asks the other people involve, what they think or want, just goes ahead, figuring they will accept. Then gets mad, when they say no or have other plans. He pulls the semi-hissy fit, I'm so disappointed, nobody wants to do what I want. Like the last couple of shows, his kids, some of which have left the nest, I don't think any of the kids are interested enough to take over the farm(Matts wish). Amy, says: let the kids do what they want. Matt comes up with crazy ideas, and goes with some of them, not even saying anything to Amy. Amy is looking forward to retiring, not running a full time farm and businesses, or being on TV anymore. Matt must be of the thinking, if he retires, he will die. Got to keep working. I'm with Amy, if you have the money packed away, kids are almost gone on their own, it's time to hang it up and enjoy life, (that is if you can) financially, not work.

As for Kate, being on CA, I will believe, when an official announcement is made, not any of these hearsay rumors. This happened last couple of years too.

Sheri said...

Meagler said...(130)

Just got the news folks!! YAY!!! Everything is okay !! YAY!! Feeling so blessed! Crying tears of Joy!! prayers Answered!!

The daughter has a vein that isnt where it should be and it is running in front of the aorta and so that is what looked like the tear. Nothing to worry about, and she can go back to normal activities. I have never felt so relieved !!!!

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Oh Meagler, Happy Day! I can feel your relief from here.

Congratulations on the wonderful news! :D

Call Me Crazy said...

Sandusky said in the interview recorded Monday that she believed that her husband showered with children but "that's the generation that Jerry grew up in."
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What the heck is this woman talking about? Since when did a whole generation grow up thinking it was OK for an adult to shower with a child? And isn't she of the same generation as her husband? As a child, did she grow up showering with adults? What a bizarre, twisted response. It must be unbearable to come to terms with a loved one's depravity, but this poor soul is in complete denial.

capecodmama said...

PA Dutch Mom...

It's like that here on the Cape as well. Yesterday was beautiful and today was pushing 60. Tonight, rain ending with snow with the temperature plummeting into the 20's. Tomorrow's temperature is supposed to be around 31 and tomorrow night in the teens. Spring, where o' where are you?

Bitchy Pants said...

Call Me Crazy -- I had the exact same thought. Sandusky's what? 69? 70? I'm from the same generation (I'm 66) and I NEVER heard of adults showering with kids, except for parents occasionally with their toddlers. I STILL don't know anyone who thinks it's acceptable, except, again, parents who shower with their toddlers.

I'll be very surprised if TFMJG is on CA. However, I predict that she'll find a way to blame Jon when she isn't. She'll spin it as "the kids didn't want to go live with their father for a month", or "Jon wouldn't take the kids, and I couldn't afford to pay someone to stay with them" or some other such nonsense. There's no way on God's green earth that she is ready, willing and able to put in the amount of work involved in doing that show. She'd be a failure on an epic scale.

Crazy weather here, too (Ohio). It was 65 yesterday, is snowing right now, and is supposed to go down to -1 tonight, with windchills of -15 to -20. I think we came back from Key West too soon.

Remona Blue said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 154
''Is anyone else having this really bizarre "winter sandwich" weather?''
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Yes! Yesterday in Fort Worth it was 87 with winds of up to 45pmh, tonight 36 with more wind.

PA Dutch Mom said...

I just read that one of Jerry's attorneys is under investigation for theft of client's money. According to Mrs. Sandusky, the prosecuting attorneys were all about money. Guess Jerry's attorney had his hands in the pie, too!

PA Dutch Mom said...

Amy is looking forward to retiring, not running a full time farm and businesses, or being on TV anymore. Matt must be of the thinking, if he retires, he will die.

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It takes two to tango. Maybe Amy should have cleaned that house once in awhile. I can't imagine any husband putting up with that mess.

gabby2 said...

If Jon can't take time to be on DWTS....why can Krazy take time for CA?

Thought I do think the others on show will not hold back on what they think of her and that might be interesting.

PA Dutch Mom said...

. She won't be the main focus of the show, the other contestants will call her out on her bad attitude and failures, DT will publicly bring up all her faults, and then fire her. How are the sheep going to take all that

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It will be all Donald's fault.

Kate's biting off much more than she can chew with this one. She has no idea. If she thinks she can somehow redeem herself by being on this show, and proving that she's a team player with a new attitude, then she's chosen the wrong show.

Anonymous said...

localyocul said... 168

Kind of like being separated but one living in a big house and another over the garage.

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Well the article I read said Matt sleeps in the "guest house" on the property. Same old, same old.

For all you weather whiners (I'm one of you, lol): We've had 8 inches of snow so far today, and it's still snowing. The robins here are wearing snowshoes.

PJ

NJGal51 said...

Layla @170 I agree with you completely. The pressure and stress of the show will bring out the absolute worst in TFW as it has done so with everyone that has participated in the past. The cameras are there to catch your worst behavior. This will not be a redemption tour becasuse TFW isn't a good enough actress to pull it off. She'll be giving the stink eye to everyone.

As far as the weather goes, we have not had any winter at all this year.

sparkle said...

Call Me Crazy said... 182
Sandusky said in the interview recorded Monday that she believed that her husband showered with children but "that's the generation that Jerry grew up in."
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What the heck is this woman talking about? Since when did a whole generation grow up thinking it was OK for an adult to shower with a child? And isn't she of the same generation as her husband? As a child, did she grow up showering with adults? What a bizarre, twisted response. It must be unbearable to come to terms with a loved one's depravity, but this poor soul is in complete denial.
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Unbelievable. I think it was a disservice to Jerry Sandusky's victims to put her and her farcical conspiracy theory on tv. What purpose was served? Ratings? Not a good enough reason. I'm sure those young men (especially those who were attacked in the basement with Dottie upstairs) felt violated all over again. A man doesn't go to jail on 10 counts of molestation as a result of a conspiracy cooked up by money hungry lawyers.

She has a right to refuse to accept the truth, but she should never get a public platform to spew her delusion.

sparkle said...

gabby2 said... 188
If Jon can't take time to be on DWTS....why can Krazy take time for CA?

Thought I do think the others on show will not hold back on what they think of her and that might be interesting.
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I still can't wrap my head around this. Kate avoids work like the plague and gives 00000001% in everything she does. Are her two "running buddies" going to show up and do the show for... errr... with her? This show is physically and mentally taxing, Kate gets exhausted sitting and paying bills.

I'm still sticking with my prediction that Kate stays for 2-3 weeks then leaves as scheduled "for the kids." She wants to stick it to Jon in a public way. 2 weeks of being on this show and doing as little as possible to get by should do the trick.

Dwindle said...

Call Me Crazy said... 182
Sandusky said in the interview recorded Monday that she believed that her husband showered with children but "that's the generation that Jerry grew up in."
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What the heck is this woman talking about? Since when did a whole generation grow up thinking it was OK for an adult to shower with a child? And isn't she of the same generation as her husband? As a child, did she grow up showering with adults? What a bizarre, twisted response. It must be unbearable to come to terms with a loved one's depravity, but this poor soul is in complete denial.

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The memories made me smile.

I taught my girls, one at a time, how to actually transition from tub baths to the more 'adult' type shower, with daughter and I in the shower together in our bathing suits. We washed our hair but the rest was just going though motions and teaching. When my son, the youngest, wanted a big boy shower, his 3 big sisters put on their suits and got in the shower with him in HIS suit. Yes, crowded! And real live squeals of laughter and fun in there. They got water every where and made a mess. As soon as I heard the water shut off, with biggest sister giving instructions on how to do that safely, I slammed open the bathroom door and stood there with my hands on my hips. Doing my best Miss Hannigan/Carol Burnett, I bellowed "Do I hear HAPPINESS in here!?!"

After a brief moment, during which they digested that, they squealed and laughed some more and mopped up the bathroom floor.

These are REAL childhood memories; they are all in their 30s now and still remember this.

Anyway, that was how my kids ever showered with anyone. I am in my late 50's and I have never heard of a naked adult showering with anyone other than their significant adult other.

If this showering thing was common during Dottie's upbringing, it explains a whole lot.

Dwindle said...

Kate's going to be on CA! Again!

Kate 'signed on' to do a dating show!

Kate is going to be the newest host of .

Kate is going to have a cooking show!

Kate formed her own production company!

Kate is buying a mansion in Hollywood and moving there!

Kate is the biggest celebrity in the world!

Kate and the kids are making a movie!

Kate makes the sun rise!

Kate teaches her children quantum physics!

Kate is so organic!

Kate cooks!

Kate lives so green!

Kate loves animals!

Kate has a purse full of bills she cant pay!

Kate is going to have a children's clothing line!

Sheeple, wake me if this sack of psychotic self involved garbage every amounts to anything in life, besides getting pregnant twice and lying and begging 24/7.

Kelly said...

Meagler, I'm SO so happy you and your family got good news! I wish I could buy you the rumspringa ;)

lukebandit said...

What would drive me nuts about Matt R. was he would start one project and half bake do it and then start another one, and not even ask or tell Amy. They had tension alright. You could cut it with a knife. Couldn't believe she didn't have her house more organized. She should of hired a couple of maids to come in 2 times a week and at least keep her from getting behind.

When I started keeping my school mates children, she told me, my job is to take care of the child, only! But they would take naps or were playing and I saw a couple of piles of clothes that were waiting in line to be washed. I checked the washing machine and dryer. Clothes dried, clothes wet.

I would have her laundry done and folded, stacked, dishes washed, the beans in the crock pot by the time it was time for me to take the child to the dad at the store they owned. She was in college getting her B.S in education.

I did this for about a month for the same pay she was paying me normally and she came one day to get her child and told me that she appreciated so much for having everything done when she came home. She said she loved being able to walk in and sit down in the floor with her child and PLAY! Not do house work.

She raised my pay, significantly! I told her she didn't have to do that, that I was satisfied for what she was paying me. She is wonderful. Her mother is different. My friends sister had a baby and I went and took care of things to help her. I scrubbed, did everything. My first paycheck (for a week) was for about 15? dollars and an gently used outfit that she couldn't fit in! I was what? I didn't say anything, because she would of told my friend and I would never hurt her feelings!

It was just for a couple of weeks, but I called my friend and said, hey I can come back! She said GREAT!

See, kate, she didn't have to pay me extra, because I said I was fine with the same salary, but she did because it was worth it to her to spend quality time with her children. And, I spared a good friends feelings by not telling her what her mother did. Me and my friend had a pact with each other not to tell anyone what she was paying me b/c it was nobody's business but ours. She also said her mother would have a fit.

Saw a promo with Honey Boo Boo. Unbelievable! They all dress like the Kardashians! A 1 hour special called the KarTRASHians!

If only kate could of thought of that! She could of had a 1 hour special pretending to be the KarTRASHians! She is slipping! snark

If DT said that kate was a good organizer and would be a great PM, maybe he just said that for the ratings, and sweet talk her into signing on. I agree, CA is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Over In TFW's County said...

For all you weather whiners (I'm one of you, lol): We've had 8 inches of snow so far today, and it's still snowing. The robins here are wearing snowshoes.

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What's a robin? Even those have gone south here. They know better to stick around. They'll be spending "spring" in Florida.

LaLaLandNoMore said...

Admin, I agree that it is difficult or impossible to know who Kate really is. She may not know herself. I saw this a.m. (by accident) that TLC is running K +8 again. Two episodes fill the 9 - 10 a.m. time slot. Would TLC still be paying them for these rerun programs? Just hearing Kate's voice talking about her 9 yr. friendship with her best friend Jamie raised the hair on the back of my neck. Thought to myself "another one bit the dust." Saw the silver fox, Steve in the background on the train to NYC. Kids looked so little. I had to turn it off quickly. Cannot stand the phoniness. We may not know Kate, but we certainly know enough about her to change the channel.

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