Wednesday, March 26, 2014

Is this cheating?

Steve Neild is along for the ride during Kate's stint on Celebrity Apprentice 

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Our take: Celebrity Apprentice has always been framed around a celebrity standing on their own two feet without their assistants, PR reps, or entourage. It's supposed to be a chance to see who they really are without the staff, without the PR. They may rely on their own wits, and that of their team's, and maybe their Twitter account, and that's it. It is supposed to be a chance to strip everything down and really get to the heart of who people are, their strengths and weaknesses, without their support system compensating for them or patching the holes. Steve is more than Kate's bodyguard, he has been called her manager as well as been in a role of both friend and confidant. If security is truly necessary, it should be provided by NBC, a network well capable of keeping all their talent safe, and the security should not be people who know you well and who you rely on for help and advice. A pure show and fair competition means the celebs will sink or swim on their own merit, not on that of the entourage.

Our verdict? Heck yes it's cheating!


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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


TFW Country--the pearl clutching phrase came from a now defunct blog. They referred to posters of this blog as pearl-clutchers.

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Lol, no it didn't come from there. Pearl clutching is a pop culture phase that I've heard now and again for at least a decade. A quick google search shows that is a common phrase used all over the internet. It is especially common in politics when one side will accuse the other of pearl clutching when they start getting preachy about morals and values. I just remember hearing it on T.V. recently. It's a phrase in general use.

I certainly did not pull it from some other Gosselin blog. I don't even read the other blogs.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Why would you hold hands with another man if you are not in a relationship with such man, Ex Nurse? Is this something that is common around your parts? Around my parts, you don't hold hands with another man unless you are also sleeping with that man.

I'm not saying it proves anything but I don't think a married man typically holds hand with an eligible woman. Then again, do we have to actually see them having sex to prove it to you? Or is if it looks like a duck, quacks, talks good enough? I'm leaning more toward the duck lately. Either that or it's one pretty dysfunctional emotional game he has going on with her. She may be in a relationship with him purely in her head, which I find almost as bad.

Over In Kate's County said...

I don't watch CA, but if it's in the rules that you're not supposed to have a support system or anyone to talk to, and it's discovered that she does have him along for that purpose, could she be disqualified?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Tucker, I am not aware people were allowed to bring their staff. That never made much sense to me. All those celebs and then all their staff too? It would be a logistical nightmare. You'd be dealing not just with the celeb but 15 or more other advocates buzzing in your ear. It would be miserable on set.

I am not aware of a shred of evidence that supports that that is the norm. But prove me wrong. I'd love to hear the truth. Are they allowed to bring an assistant/bodyguard/support? Or is this an exception for Kate because she begged for it and wouldn't do it without him? Fess up, Donald. Inquiring minds want to know.

Mel said...

Looks like a duck...yep, she is cheating here, and IMO cheated on the LV run. Best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

She's clearly used to cheating and getting by with it.

Formerly Duped said...

If Kate is cheating by having Steve along, why is she not being called out for it? I don't know the rules of this show, but some series like Hell's Kitchen, Amazing Race, even The Real World (ugh) have strict protocols that enforce one strike and you're out. Is it possible other contestants have 'staff' but we just aren't familiar with them?

Mel said...

Any man and any woman holding hands are in a relationship of some sort. Doesn't matter if either/both are in other relationships.

You don't hold hands with someone you're not in a relationship with.

She sure looked happy about that pre-arranged pap photo, didn't she.

Call Me Crazy said...

Tucker's Mom said

I wonder how many other CA "contestants" are permitted to bring their domestics?
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Ha! Tucker's Mom. That is what he is, isn't it? And I mean no disrespect to domestic workers. It's just that Stevie has inflated his importance and presents himself as some kind of grand security expert when, in fact, he is merely TFW's babysitter and escort. I don't think he could protect his way out of a paper bag.

I would really love to know if any other contestant has been allowed to have a personal assistant accompany them through the whole CA process. As I have said before, I'm sure TFW convinced the producers that she is in constant danger, so it is essential that her trusty sidekick be present to protect her wherever she goes. They truly are pathetic.

And yes. If no one else is permitted to do this, it is cheating.

Tucker's Mom said...

OMG, that kitten is so cute! Side not- my little puppy has a habit of standing on his hind legs when he's at the end of the leash and he sees something or someone. It's so cute, I think I have to start rewarding it so he does it on command!

My verdict? Guilty as charged.

Please, anyone with twitter, ask the other CA contestants if they have staff along or are they truly doing CA independently.

Steve is not just dropping little Katie off at school in the morning and picking her up at the end of the day. He's in the periphery at all times.

Tucker's Mom said...

I certainly did not pull it from some other Gosselin blog. I don't even read the other blogs.
March 26, 2014 at 7:36 AM
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Another Gosselin blog, that for some reason had an axe to grind with us, called us pearl clutchers.
I have no idea why, but they were obsessed with us.

getofftwitter said...

I read the article, about Kate being a monster(so what else is new), that article might not be to far off from the truth. That pic of Kate on the last thread, says a lot and so does the other pics of the women making the pies. We all know Kate does not like anyone in the kitchen or anyone making a mess. The reason I can see is that Kate was not making a face to the camera, I think she was biting her lip, cause she was about to say something back to the others. Perhaps, Kate was trying to tell the others how to make pies, and one of the others told her to shut up and get busy, cause, they wanted to get done asap.

Kate is a control freak, and does not like sharing the kitchen.

Kate is so predictable.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I did a little googling and though this is not very thorough, the only other reference I can find to another celeb having a support staff along on this show is Star Jones. Allegedly, she had a security detail with her, BUT the funny thing is she supposedly did not have them in the beginning. It wasn't until she starting really getting into it with NeNe Leakes she hired security to protect her from NeNe. LOL!

Tucker's Mom said...

Then again, do we have to actually see them having sex to prove it to you? Or is if it looks like a duck, quacks, talks good enough?
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There have been too many first-hand accounts of Steve and Kate being way too close. Not one of these reports comes from someone who is judging, or really cares.
Red Cross Ball
San Diego
BHI
Demi Lavato concert
A hotel

ALL of these accounts say "whoa, these two people are a couple"
Anyone can tell the difference between platonic and involved romantically.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I bet Penn would be keen to answer the question whether they are allowed to bring a staff. He is talkative about the real CA.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I think a few of their leftovers from that blog still hang out here posting snippy comments as anonymous, usually attacking me and sometimes some of you.

My goodness that axe just GRINDS AND GRINDS AND GRINDS. And we have to delete, and delete, and delete. That axe must be dull as a dull pencil by now.

getofftwitter said...

That pic above is funny. Caption should say:" Look at me, I got my food and my man, ain't I cute! Take that Jon! Gina! and on a TV show and all you naysayers!"

It's like she is say to everyone, F-U, I can do what I want, when I want and with who I want, and you can talk all you want, cause I love the publicity!

But you know Kate that won't get you a TV show. Your still a has-been!

Carole said...

GREAT new blog post Admin!

Carole said...

I don't think anyone here knows for sure, and it's my opinion that the $16k figure that's been bandied about is way too low for even Z-list celebrities to agree to for six weeks of their time.

They're doing this for charity, or at least the majority of the celebs are, and IMO don't expect to profit from the show. I think the nominal fee they're being paid is appropriate.

capecodmama said...

Do you think Steve wipes TCFW's ass when she takes a crap? She really is useless.

Over In TFW's County...

The blizzard is knocking on the door but I'm no letting him in. I'm on the Upper Cape and they've lowered our snow totals to 3"-6". We only have a few inches on the ground and it's supposed to be outta here by around 2p.m. The wind however is a different story. We could experience wind gusts up to 65mph while the Lower Cape could reach hurricane strength. And the wind is supposed to stick around until tomorrow. The lights have flickered yet so hopefully we won't lose power.

getofftwitter said...

Oh, one more thing: If Kate & her camp and her sheeple fans, think by doing CA, that people will get a different Kate, don't hold your breath. Kate will still be Kate, CA or any other show will not change Kate. Kate is so predictable, and set in her ways. She can try acting a different way, but that won't last log. Kate said so herself many times she has changed, when? she is still the same.

Carole said...

My question is- wouldn't you think that with all of these "celeb" contestants doing very public challenges, that the show would provide security?

Yes, they have security for CA. Producers accompany them on tasks and per photos from past seasons, for public shoots there's often everything from NYPD to private security on site. IMO Steve is not providing 'bodyguard' services or private security to TFW, he's there for the same reason he's been with her for years; he's her confidant, sounding board, shoulder to cry on and purse carrier. And in the case of CA, I think he's helping her strategically, too.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


It's like she is say to everyone, F-U, I can do what I want, when I want and with who I want, and you can talk all you want, cause I love the publicity!


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For at least the past 18 months or so you can practically smell this mentality on her. She reeks of it. She has had such a smug F-U I'll do what I want look on her face you just want to slap her silly. It's immature too, like the look your 15 year old gives you when doing their first major testing of the waters. Of course with a 15 year old you can ground them, take their phone, take their xbox, forbid them from seeing their friends. With Kate, there's nothing that can be done to make her learn.

Jane said...

I remember Adam Carolla saying he, at times, had coworkers with him in NY during the filming of CA. He was simultaneously doing standup shows and podcasts in LA and elsewhere at the time and his staff would accompany him to NYC to assist him with his work outside of CA. It was never alleged that they were around to help him with CA and after he was eliminated, I remember listening to his podcasts - he often mentioned how long, boring and sometimes difficult the tasks were. There was a task he did with Rachael Ray and he said he and his team made sandwiches for hours and hours. No one helped - it was just his team doing the work.

For those who haven't seen the show, I'd recommended watching a few episodes. It must be available on NBC or You Tube? It will give a clearer picture of the timelines - how a task is done during the day and then the celebs get glammed up and meet in the board room. However, I did wonder if the board room get togethers were the same day as the task or the next day.

I was under the impression that the celebs aren't informed as to the task until Donald announces it to them. Granted, some are actors and could be feigning surprise, but I've seem looks of alarm on some faces, too LOL

chefsummer said...

The married party is only marginally more a sinner, IMO.
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That's not what the bible say's-(LOL)

chefsummer said...

"We can make every excuse in the world for Jon but the bottom line is he is lazy, immature, and weak man."
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Jon is lazy and immature and weak?-(WOW)

I have only seen these things in Kate.

Tucker's Mom said...

Over In Kate's County said... 3
I don't watch CA, but if it's in the rules that you're not supposed to have a support system or anyone to talk to, and it's discovered that she does have him along for that purpose, could she be disqualified?
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If Steve is hiding, he's hiding in plain sight.
Steve has always been just out of frame. He's very good at blending in and/or hiding out of camera range.
Did anyone think way back during the Utah filming that Steve was always there? Didn't we all think that Jon and Kate were doing it all by themselves?
Remember when Kate was yelling at Jon in the airport "LEAD, JON, I CAN'T LEAD!!!"
PS.. Now we know Steve was there!
Were we duped, or what?

chefsummer said...


"What man with 8 children waits tables for a living?"
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I don't care if Jon sold his blood for a living at least her working. What is Kate JOB again???-(oh yeah exploiting the kids)

Suzy said...

Oh my word, you can see how much her hairline has receded. AND a different pair of UGGS boots in blue! Yesterday, she had the black ones. Did she grift more than one UGGs boot? I see them at Bloomingdales all the time and I always cring when I look at the price sticker.

Suzy

AuntieAnn said...

I think the bigger story would be if Kate was spotted going into a hotel, any hotel, without the Steevster. The two of them are joined at the...well lets just say they're joined.

Jane said...

A lot of the pre-task work is done by production assistants. Suggestions for stores to purchase goods needed for the task, venues, decorations - so much of this is pre-planned. The actual work and the soliciting for donations is up to the stars. I have to think that these celebs line up donations ahead of time and the phone calls we see from celeb to donor is also pre-arranged.

So, who is kate going to ask for donations? Jason the hairdresser? Mr. Farmer Man? HCI publishers? BV?

Those UGGs look brand new. I bet there's swag involved in this.

PatK said...

There was no doubt in my mind Steve was going to be staying by Kate's side during this whole CA filming process. He's her road manager, bodyguard (lol) and personal assistant all rolled into one. (If he learns how to do hair & makeup, she won't even need to have Deanna written into her contracts in the future.) As to whether he'll also be giving her project advice--who knows? I wouldn't doubt it, though.

I'd be willing to bet most of the other contestants have a personal assistant with them during CA. I think that's probably standard for any type of filming they're involved in.

Whether Kate & Steve are bumping uglies, I would have no idea. But the opportunity sure has been there for many, many years.

This whole Steve thing COULD become a problem, though, if Kate truly desires to seek a long-term relationship with another man. What guy would want to date her with Steve in her life? Other than one just after her fame and money, of course.



chefsummer said...

Mel said... 5
Looks like a duck...yep, she is cheating here, and IMO cheated on the LV run. Best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

She's clearly used to cheating and getting by with it.
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Since she cheats at ever thing why would cheating on Jon and being Steve's mistress brother her?

Call Me Crazy said...

I bet Penn would be keen to answer the question whether they are allowed to bring a staff. He is talkative about the real CA.
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I agree. I don't do Twitter, but it would be great if someone here who does could politely ask him, without invoking the Kate situation, if contestants have been or are allowed to bring their assistants with them. I am really curious about this now.

And Admin, I agree. I hope the Social Media aspect does not spoil the season. I will find it hard to avoid spoilers about which contestants are seen where, doing what.

chefsummer said...

I truly don't think it's about the money for Kate.
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No offenses but you cannot be for real.

lukebandit said...

Yes, I will Anon to the Donald. You're welcome!

That picture is so vile from a standpoint of someone who's husband found someone a couple of months before I got sick and was in a coma and survived, then he decided to leave his 3 sons and I to the kindness of strangers and be with his new love in FL living in a big 500k house, new car, new bike w/trailer and luggage shell on top of the car.

I would be Devastated! if I saw my ex with his thing together and her smiling like a freaking Cheshire cat! I would want to die, because it is so painful. That thing even showed up at my son's college football game wearing a team jersey with his number! I was in the hospital at the time and I was in fetal position for the weekend when I heard. I was never able to go to see him play, but he was playing every week on tv.

Steve and kate are so depraved that they are only out for themselves and their happiness and to Hades to whom they bulldoze along the way!

This picture looks like a big F U Gina, he's mine, all mine response to Gina's family unit portrait.

In that video of her talking to the fur coat lady, could she have been a customer OR a staff member of DT's asking her if she was getting help from the silver haired man. In that picture of her texting on her phone, did she text Steve what she needed and where and he went and got it and had it waiting for her in the store and she just went and picked it up and came back?

It is hopeful that Ivanka or Donald Jr. came in an observed kate in her finest. Brandi didn't look happy in those pics with kate, or Vivica. I can't imagine kate opening that restaurant sized can of apples with the can opener and taking the lid off and pouring it into the pie or bowl without Steve's help.

Sorry about my random thoughts! Off to twitter I go! lol

So many questions. I hope DT when he fires her, he says,

kate Kreider, does the finger point, You're Fired! I am going to ask him! lol

Tucker's Mom said...

The blizzard is knocking on the door but I'm no letting him in. I'm on the Upper Cape and they've lowered our snow totals to 3"-6"
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It snowed all day here yesterday. We only got about 3", but I pretty much went from morning until after dinner.
Ugh.
I'm tired of my OWN bitching about the cold, so thanks for letting me vent!

Tucker's Mom said...

And in the case of CA, I think he's helping her strategically, too.
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I agree.
I remember Kate doing an interview in Canada, for her book tour, a couple months ago. When asked about Jon, she had to turn to Steve to help her answer.
I've said before, Steve is totally in control of Kate's life and usurped Jon's position in the family.
Hell, he sees Jon's kids more than Jon sees his kids.

AuntieAnn said...

They probably don't want to admit they're a couple because they know they'll get more media attention if they keep the rumor mill churning.

If they did announce that they're involved romantically (if that's possible with cold fish Kate), everyone would just say yeah thought so and move on. Can't have that.

Paula said...

Could it be that Kate is attempting to become "the bad girl", thus the reason for these stories about her and Steve?? The Do-It-All loving Mother of 8 nonsense, well, no one believes anymore and it fails to get her attention anymore. So, could she be trying a different tactic for maybe a Real Wives show?

Just thinking out loud and laughing at the sheeple who still believe she is a good mother and good person.

westcoastie said...

Where is his wedding ring? In the pictures on Daily Mail's site you can clearly see he is not wearing it. In the older picture on DM it was hard to tell if he had it on or not.
Clearly he wore one once. Or am I dreaming about one of the tups finding it in the sand at the beach or down in Australia or some similar instance??

westcoastie said...

Another quick point:
Does anyone think Trump is popping for a second hotel room for cheater boy? I would venture a guess and say, NOPE!
Perhaps the kids are paying for it.
Perhaps there is no second room.
WinkWink

Formerly Duped said...

I'm in MA, but not on the Cape; nevertheless,our street is full of rolled garbage bins and my walk with my dog was very w-i-n-d-y!! Her floppy ears were flying everywhere! Chilled to the bone, wind howling and blowing objetcs all over.Wind chimes playing a raucous melody. Snow, but not much, Brr.

AuntieAnn said...

westcoastie said... 41


Perhaps there is no second room.
WinkWink

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One room, one bed and they bring in a cot for the bodyguard? That's gotta be it.

Ex Nurse said...

Someone brought this up on an earlier thread, and after reading Admin's post, maybe there is some merit in the idea that there are accommodations for TFW. And, the main accommodation seems to be Steve. If she has the diagnosis of, say, anxiety disorder, then it could be a legitimate accommodation--your now, like a guide dog, or one of those dogs trained to sniff peanut butter for an allergy. If so, he should be wearing a vest and should be kept on a leash at all times.

localyocul said...

westcoastie said... 40
Where is his wedding ring? In the pictures on Daily Mail's site you can clearly see he is not wearing it. In the older picture on DM it was hard to tell if he had it on or not.
Clearly he wore one once. Or am I dreaming about one of the tups finding it in the sand at the beach or down in Australia or some similar instance??

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They were digging for gold in Alaska and he put it in a pan for TFW to find as a "joke".

Anonymous said...

(Leslie)
Please don't attack me but I disagree with most of the above comments.

First, Kate goes to a concert with her twin teen daughters and someone tweets that they saw Kate holding hands with Steve in a very public, very high traffic event. Yes, I fully believe Steve was with them, but there is zero proof of them holding hands. And it doesn't make any sense for them to be holding hands in a very public arena when every person there has a camera in their hands (cellphones). So I think all this talk about how disrespectful Kate and Steve are because of this rumor is unfounded.

Second, Gina posted a family photo on HER facebook page and ROL picks it up and spins it that Gina is making a public statement to lay off her man is ridiculous. Again pure speculation.

Third, because we see Kate and Steve walking through a door together, comments swirl that she is probably cheating on CA. It really is not fair to her. What proof do we have that she has cheated in this contest...none. We don't even know if each contestant stays in their own private room or if they are allowed to have friends when they are not filming. We don't have a clue if Steve was at the Pie place yesterday helping her cheat.

And that stupid Rob article is a joke. He is so desperate (and has been for years) trying to make his mark as a columnist. There are zero details in his article as usual. If Kate was a MONSTER as he claims, don't you think somebody would have leaked it to the media with some details. I have always put zero stock in his articles.

Kate is no doubt emotionally dependent on Steve. We can conclude that because she goes everywhere with him. If she is having an affair, that is yet to be seen. And I don't even think Kate would say he is in NY being her security guard. I think he is there as her friend/assistant. Who knows if Donald is paying him or if she is even paying him.

I can't believe I am defending Kate. But to accuse someone of cheating with a married man and cheating in a TV contestant show for charity money is not being fair because we don't have any evidence of either of these.

Ex Nurse said...

Admin said...
Lol, no it didn't come from there. Pearl clutching is a pop culture phase that I've heard now and again for at least a decade.
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I realize that the phrase has been around. I was personally referencing that use when I put it in my post. It's one of those references that seem to have been brought back. I always think of clutching pearls, while falling onto a pink swoon couch. Smelling salts would be involved.

Carole said...

Clearly he wore one once. Or am I dreaming about one of the tups finding it in the sand at the beach or down in Australia or some similar instance??

I remember a story from when they were panning for gold in AK and supposedly he took his wedding ring off and put it in one of the pans the kids were using. Or am I thinking of another show? lol

Kate is a twit said...

Steve being there with Kate doesn't necessarily mean that he is helping her with CA. Kate doesn't seem to be able to go anywhere without a someone leading the way. Remember how he accompanied her to that charity fundraiser?

Haven't found anything about CA celebs having PA's, but I did find an article about Summer Sanders when she was on CA. She said that she had her mother and children stay with her while she was on CA, because she couldn't stand leaving her children for that long.

ml: How was "Celebrity Apprentice"?

SS: I actually enjoyed the experience! I really did. If I had to do it all over again, I probably would. It was really tough for me to decide to do it. I was a bit nervous about what happened last season -- the name-calling and the cattiness. I was also worried about the schedule and being away from my kids for so long. But my mom and my kids came with me to New York, and we all lived in a one-bedroom, 600-square-foot little hotel room. As the show started to cruise along, I'd take them down to the makeup room and they'd hang out with everyone, then we'd have this little ritual where they'd wave goodbye to me at the elevator. They got great "Grandma time," which was unbelievable. Then we had days off, and we'd play in New York.

http://www.momlogic.com/2010/03/celebrity_apprentice_olympic_mom_summer_sanders.php#ixzz2x5GAirKT

I'm sure that other celebs have PA's who are there with them, to help them with personal things and other career stuff, but I doubt that the PA's are allowed to help them with their tasks.

Steve is Kate's guide dog and personal support system. She can't leave home without him. He was there with her when she was on DWTS, but he couldn't help while she danced. Hmm, maybe it would've helped if he did.

So I don't think his being there is "cheating". At least not "cheating" in relation to CA.

AuntieAnn said...

What's with the SuperHero pose? Ready to serve and protect, Steve? He looks goofy.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/26/article-0-1C90FCFC00000578-763_634x759.jpg

Tucker's Mom said...

If so, he should be wearing a vest and should be kept on a leash at all times.
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Well, Kate treats Steve like a dog. Remember the RV fight when Steve refused to harass yet another person, who perfectly legally, took her unauthorized photo?
Kate snapped at him like a dog and the funny thing was, he capitulated and walked into the RV with his tail between his legs.

AuntieAnn said...

#50

Sorry, Admin. I just realized that's the pic you posted for this thread. Oops.

Tucker's Mom said...

Someone bringing their children with them, and their mom to babysit, is way different than Kate bringing Steve.
The point is, she does nothing by herself. Steve is helping her every step of the way and to me, that's cheating when you have a sounding board, an advisor and someone to point you everywhere you go.
Kate literally does zero thinking of anything all the way through.
Can you imagine Kate traveling alone?
Drive yourself to the airport.
Park in the cheap lot.
Take the bus to the terminal.
Go through the entire process of boarding alone.
Getting to some place you've never been before and navigating you way to your hotel that you yourself booked
And on and on and on

Vanessa said...

And why is she smiling today? In the last few (very few haha) pap pics , she had her scowl on. Why are the chicklets making an appearance.
I agree, that's quite the smug eff you grin. I doubt she's "technically" cheating, rat claws would have cleared himself I'm thinking. BUT, I believe she's stretching the rules to accommodate her
inept self. I'm surprised she didn't have rat claws be her "stand-in daddy" for CWS.

And just to refresh everyone's memory (even though I am thoroughly enjoying the snark) SHE IS A CHILD ABUSER. SHE IS AN ANIMAL ABUSER. Now ,take another look at that smug botoxed face.

Millicent said...

I think the reason Steve must accompany Kate on these trips and doing any shows is possibly to help keep her from totally losing it. Whether he helps by providing medication, or simply his presence can calm her down if she goes manic, I don't know. But I do think he is like a service dog for a person with an anxiety disorder. Without him, she'd probably spin out of control when the going got tough.

If he is simply there on the sidelines, and does not help with the actual tasks nor otherwise interfere in how Kate performs those tasks, then I guess it might not be technically cheating. It could be viewed like another person who has to take medication for a condition. They have their medication, they take it, but they still have to be the one doing the work.

I think the more time Kate is away from the kids, the better for the children. I hope they are with Jon, at least for a big chunk of that time. If they aren't, he needs to head over there with the custody order in hand that gives him right of first refusal. Call the household staff ahead of time, alert them that he'll be picking up his kids and if they plan on trying to refuse him his rights, he will ask a Sheriff deputy to meet him at the house to help enforce the order.

As to Kate and Steve - I don't care if they are having a not-so-secret affair. I've said before that these two deserve each other - they are both fairly despicable human beings. If I were his wife, I'd have kicked him to the curb long ago. But Gina seems to feel differently and that's her business.

chefsummer said...

Kate doesn't seem to be able to go anywhere without a someone leading the way
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Jon did have to lead Kate through airports,
Mr. Policeman had to lead Kate to her interviews in her own city.

It seems like someone all way needs to lead Kate somewhere or help her get to some place.

Vanessa said...

Can you imagine Kate traveling alone?
Drive yourself to the airport.
Park in the cheap lot.
Take the bus to the terminal.
Go through the entire process of boarding alone.
Getting to some place you've never been before and navigating you way to your hotel that you yourself booked
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But she masterminds all that, you can't expect her to actually execute those tasks?

Millicent said...

" What man with 8 children waits tables for a living?"
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A man who may not have a lot of other options, that's who. A man who isn't ashamed to take on a job that others (for some reason) look down on, because it brings money into the household, provides food for the table, and shelter for the kids. That's what kind of man it would take.

As others have pointed out - he's not exactly waiting on tables. However, if he were, there's nothing wrong with that. Depending on the restaurant, you can actually make a fairly decent income waiting tables. I had a boyfriend years ago that worked in Palm Springs during the summer months, waiting tables at a fancy restaurant. Some nights, he make $200 or $300 in tips alone. The actual wage he was earning wasn't important - it was the tips.

I don't think Jon is particularly educated. I know he worked in IT, but I don't know how much he's been able to keep up with that field in intervening years. He has shown that he's willing to try various jobs to earn a living. At least he's willing to work, unlike his pathetic ex who can't even handle doing CA without the constant presence of her favorite "helper," Steve.

wowswer said...

I think everyone will end up hating TFW on CA. Did you notice the videos from the first day at the pie place.....the other girls were smiling for the cameras and talking to people and TFW walked by all of them with a face like she smelled a fart or something. She looks down her plastic nose at people like she is above them which I totally don't understand.; I think she thinks she is famous because SHE is SO spectacular and not because the fans she snubs WATCHED her and gave her ratings and THAT'S why she has ANY significance at all. As far as Steve goes, I think she should be disqualified for having him there. Anyone who has watched TFW over the years knows she takes the lazy way out of things and will get ANYONE to do work FOR her instead of doing it herself. She is there for the Camera and the make-up chair ONLY!! 0h!!! and being AWAY from her kids. The only charity TFW supports is the TFW Charity.

Ex Nurse said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 2
Why would you hold hands with another man if you are not in a relationship with such man, Ex Nurse? Is this something that is common around your parts? Around my parts, you don't hold hands with another man unless you are also sleeping with that man.
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Yes, we in Seattle can't get enough of holding hands with everyone we meet. We do this because, after months of rain, when the sun breaks out, we stumble around like moles.

Look, my point is that all of this assumptions are swirling because one single person, in a crowd of thousands, posted what they saw. Since they also said that she was yelling at the twins to stay with her, that she was feeling very anxious, and, possibly, afraid that they would become separated in the crowd. She clearly struggles with many mental health issues, and it is a possibility. Particularly in view of what CA watchers have said--that it is unheard of to have an assistant. However, someone deaf would probably be allowed to have someone signing with her, and that would be an accommodation. Who knows, Ms Can We Sue may have threatened to sue for not allowing her an accommodation, if there is a verified medical necessity. As I said, I think that he should be wearing a vest and a leash, if that is his function. I am looking into training my dogs as therapy dogs, so that I can bring them into my daughter's kindergarten classroom as part of the Reading With Rover program. Once they get that designation, no one, including restaurants and grocery stores can deny entrance, even if the dogs are not wearing their vests. And, it is illegal to ask what the disability is. There have been lawsuits over this.

I just don't think that she is capable of having any kind of a relationship, except one where they are mutually using each other. And, even if she was holding hands, how does that make her a cheater? Holding hands in 2014 automatically means that she was cheating while married.

Chef Summers brought up the "girl code". I sincerely doubt that TFW feels any responsibility to her fellow women to uphold someone else's vows. Her social skills are deplorable-- I doubt she would even know what that means.

I agree with Auntie that she is one cold fish. I just don't see a hot romance going on. I could certainly be wrong, but, if true---meh. I don't think that this kind of response is about the behavior, because Jon was publicly with several women while still married. And, possibly, Steve may even be legally separated from his wife. There is just so much not known here, it seems ridiculous to take it to extremes.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kate is a Twit #49

I agree 100%. Kate can't navigate on her own outside of her comfort zone which consists of Target, Bed, Bath and Beyond, a couple of grocery stores, ToysRUs and Chipolte. Kate calls Steve her "road manager" and no doubt, she's allowed to have him there to guide her to her destinations.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

"What man with 8 children waits tables for a living?"

What woman with 8 children skips off to NYC to live her tv dream, for a possible six weeks, taking along her married "bodyguard/manager/purse boy? If she is their sole support, then explain this. The 'salary' from CA has already gone to fake hair, fake forehead, cheek fillers, new boots and Skeeve's pocket. So spin this one sheep, I dare you.

Is she cheating. Well, yes, in more than one way. Having to take a support 'team' of one is already egregious. As for her relationship with purseboy, you don't need to be sexually involved for a relationship to be unfaithful to another partner. Kate did it to Jon with Skeeve, and while none of us know, or should know, the state of the Neild marriage, that sneeze is certainly not acting in what I would call a faithful manner. Spin that one any way you want, but it certainly looks like what it probably is.

Over And Out said...

If you look at photos after Kate's divorce, particularly those of her in hookerwear, he's not wearing a ring. There are several good close-ups of his hand and there's no ring.

Admin -- I had to laugh when I read the header for this thread..."Is It Cheating?" Cheating, as in cheating on the show, or cheating, as in the marriage?" Or both?

Over And Out said...

Well, Kate treats Steve like a dog. Remember the RV fight when Steve refused to harass yet another person, who perfectly legally, took her unauthorized photo?

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Wasn't that also Jon's complaint in the toy store episode? "You treat me like a friggin dog."

Paula said...

There is just so much not known here, it seems ridiculous to take it to extremes.

Some of us value our marriage vows. I'm sorry if you find that extreme.

Kate is a twit said...

US Weekly has an article about Kate, Brandi and Kenya working at Pie Face yesterday. Take it for what it's worth.

http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/kate-gosselin-brandi-glanville-kenya-moore-film-celebrity-apprentice-find-out-whos-not-getting-along-2014263

From the article:

Taking over the shop from 11:30 a.m. to 2:30 p.m., the trio -- joined by female castmates Shawn Johnson, Leeza Gibbons and others -- wore the burgeoning chain's red uniforms to greet customers and sell pies. According to one observer, Gosselin, 38, and Moore, 43, "weren't really working at all" during the challenge, and mostly appeared to be chatting with customers, posing for photos and feigning ignorance when asked about the nature of the event.

"I know my kids' names, if you ask me that," mother of eight Gosselin quipped to one curious fan, which prompted a glare from Glanville, 41. The Drinking and Dating author stayed behind the counter and greeted pals Andy Cohen and new NYC Housewife Kristen Taekman, both of whom dropped by for a visit. And though Gosselin and Glanville kept their distance from each other, an insider close to the NBC reality competition tells Us Weekly that Glanville and Moore -- noted pot-stirrers on their respective Housewives editions -- aren't exactly becoming besties.

Anonymous said...

From previous thread:

Tucker's Mom said... (re cheating with a cheater)

Can't they see that sooner or later, he'll treat her the exact same way?

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Ask Tori Spelling. I never could understand how women who cheated with someone else's husband were so surprised when it happened to them.

PJ

Over And Out said...

Those UGGs look brand new. I bet there's swag involved in this.

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Where's UggsBren lady? Did she hop a train to NYC and gift Kate with some new ones, or is she too busy kissing up to Chelsea Handler? I'm wondering, though, didn't Chelsea crucify Kate on a few of her shows? How could someone who proclaims herself Kate's buddy be totally in love with a celebrity who rips her apart? I don't understand, but then again, there's so much about sheeple that I just don't get!

JR said...

Well, it didn't take her long to mention her kids. Wasn't she supposed to be selling her product. Instead of promoting what she had to sell, she just had to invoke the kids in the conversation and play dumb about what she was REALLY there to do. Shes a piece of shit....ERR I mean work. Why can't she work hard and be judged for that instead of using those kids like a crutch.

Susantoyota said...

"I know my kids' names, if you ask me that," mother of eight Gosselin quipped to one curious fan, which prompted a glare from Glanville, 41.
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I know it's a tabloid article, but this is exactly what some posters have predicted. Already hiding behind her "I've got 8! kids" schtick, showing up late for work (the reason she was moving so fast in that video was to avoid being called out on her late arrival and being told to get to work.

It sounds like the ladies won, but her behavior is being remembered as well as documented and will come in handy in the boardroom showdowns.

Jane said...

Kate is a twit said... 66
US Weekly has an article about Kate, Brandi and Kenya working at Pie Face yesterday. Take it for what it's worth.


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Of course she had to mention the kids. If she did CA totally on her own, no Steve, no kids, just doing it as best she could, I'd give her credit. Now, not a chance.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kate is a twit said... 66
US Weekly has an article about Kate, Brandi and Kenya working at Pie Face yesterday. Take it for what it's worth

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Sounds to me like "an insider close to the NBC reality competition," as in CA's promotion department is giving the fans of the show exactly what they want...lots of controversy to get those rating up. What could be better than getting it out there to all the rag mags that no one is getting along. LOL

AuntieAnn said...

I can't wait until the catfights break out..

Someone on that cast will surely call Kate out for habitually playing the 'eight kids' card. They'll let her know if that's all she's holding in her hand, it ain't gonna win the game.

TLC stinks said...

There is no reason to assume Kate takes any medication, because if she does, it's not working. If she has some sort of anxiety issue, she should see a doctor instead of employing Steve to be her comforter.

So I have to ask myself, why does she need a "Road Manager" for CA? Everything is taken care of by the CA staff.

If they are not having an affair, then shame on Steve for allowing her to be dependent on him. This reminds of so much of Anna Nicole Smith and Howard K. Stern. They had a longtime relationship and she was totally dependent on him.

There just is something not right with the whole relationship and that's why the speculation. If it's not an affair, then what is it?

Call Me Crazy said...

"I know my kids' names, if you ask me that," mother of eight Gosselin quipped to one curious fan, which prompted a glare from Glanville, 41.
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If that quote is accurate, it pretty much confirms she was NOT the PM for the task. She probably has no idea what charities any of her teammates are playing for. It also confirms that she is completely disinterested in the raising money for charity aspect of the show. Not that we would be foolish enough to think otherwise.

JR said...

There will be no cat fight with Kate. She will either "play dumb", totally ignore or act like a victim.. shes too much of a coward to confront anyone with any intelligence. She has to hide behind her "8 kids"...so she doesn't look like a total incompetent. I think we all know her routine by now. Its so ridiculous at this point...you really have to giggle at it.

marie said...

There will be no cat fight with Kate. She will either "play dumb", totally ignore or act like a victim.. shes too much of a coward to confront anyone with any intelligence. She has to hide behind her "8 kids"...so she doesn't look like a total incompetent. I think we all know her routine by now. Its so ridiculous at this point...you really have to giggle at i
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She will just turn on the water works.

Marie

Suzy said...

It sounds like she is promting strangers to ASK HER about the children. OMG. That is not in the best interest of the children. It clearly shows she CANNOT STAND ON HER OWN FEET without invoking them in some way, some form to get people to be interested in her.

Suzy

AuntieAnn said...

There will be no cat fight with Kate. She will either "play dumb", totally ignore or act like a victim.. shes too much of a coward to confront anyone with any intelligence

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I don't know, JR. She can act like a turtle and pull her head in, but she may snap under the pressure this time. There's some work involved in making this show and she's not used to that.

Beyond DIsgusted said...

I don't understand, but then again, there's so much about sheeple that I just don't get!

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Don't even bother. They are an entity unto themselves. There's one who says that Kate and Steve weren't holding hands because nobody took a picture of it. Therefore, it didn't happen. Of course, I guess the Malaysia plane didn't go down because nobody took a picture of it happening.

On the other side of the fence are the non-fans, the ones who show up on Twitter tweeting Kate directly (as well as companies, CEOs, etc), insinuating she's done this and that (when much of it is speculation and their accusations aren't supported by facts), throwing so much vitriol her way, and then they go on their own timelines, citing Bible verses claiming that God will know what she did and that she'll have to answer to Him (or she's on her way to hell...whatever). It makes no sense to me.

Kate is a twit said...

Looks like they may be filming board room scenes today. Piers Morgan tweeted the following:

Piers Morgan ‏@piersmorgan · 6m
Glad to be on this side of the boardroom table @realDonaldTrump .... #CelebrityApprentice pic.twitter.com/h9WfxPUAF1

Piers was also at the women's event yesterday. I guess he is one of the guest judges.

JR said...

I cannot wait until those kids are 18. It almost seems like she doesn't have an "identity" without them. They ARE her identity. You know... at least until one of them says that they want to go live with daddy. And then they become her enemy. YAYYYY....CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chefsummer said...

You guys think the Donald has a special closet for KK and Steve to hide?

Kate is a twit said...

Looks like Harvey is going to be talking about Kate on TMZ live.

http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/26/tmz-live-katy-perry-riff-raff-gwyneth-paltrow-chris-martin-kris-jenner-kate-gosselin-charlie-sheen-david-blaine-paul-walker-beyonce-wigs/

Concerned Chick said...

If Steve is with Kate during the filming phase of the show I consider it cheating. He doesn't have to be there during the team brainstorming or tasks for it to be cheating. They can brainstorm and he can give her advice when it's just the two of them.

Even if CA allows you your personal assistant to help then it's not Kate doing this on her own. She's not proving she has what it takes to command a task or run a business on her own without depending on anyone.

I think Steve being there just proves Kate is incapable of doing anything on her own.

Tucker's Mom said...

Jon was publicly with several women while still married
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Jon and Kate were separated. I'm sick of Jon being painted as a cheater. He's never was. He was a man who wanted to repair his marriage and Kate wanted no part of it.
Jon is on record saying that Kate told him they were living separate lives and just filming together.
I have no reason to believe Jon was lying about that.

Concerned Chick said...

Tucker's Mom,

Kate herself said the marriage was over the previous year.

Blog Watcher said...

I would really love to know if any other contestant has been allowed to have a personal assistant accompany them through the whole CA process.
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The only one I know of is when Marlee Matlin had her interpreter.

Penn said...

I wish to God someone would ask her, so why don't you work a regular job if you can be away a full 6 weeks from your kids? Or, So, you're not dating anyone since you threw Jon out?
And though I won't be watching, I can't wait to learn of her reaction when she is criticized by any of the other contestants.
Will she go silent walk out of the room and slam the door? Drive off rolling up the car window? Smack someone with a spatula?
Or will she whine and go into a melt down?
She is mentally incapable of empathy, apologizing, or accepting blame.
And really, potentially six weeks in NY city with another woman's husband? He isn't part of a security team there, he isn't there with her and the kids...just the two of them for at least a week maybe 6 weeks, in a hotel in NYC....HELLO?!
I am beginning to wonder if he and his wife have an open marriage, or an oppressive one.

JR said...

Oh I know Auntie...I've never seen her in a situation like this so it will be interesting to see if she sticks to her usual crying (dab dab) and pity party. I would love to see her confronted and watch her react. Would love to see someone put her in her place in front of millions of people.. OMG...would it get any better than that??!!

JR said...

Hey...I wonder if she got fired today? I mean shes pretty used to it by now...

Kate is a twit said...

If Steve is with Kate during the filming phase of the show I consider it cheating. He doesn't have to be there during the team brainstorming or tasks for it to be cheating. They can brainstorm and he can give her advice when it's just the two of them.
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Not that I'm sticking up for Kate, but the same can be said about the other celebs. They may or may not have other people with them, but apparently they can use their cell phones. So what's to prevent them from calling other people for input and ideas?

We don't know what the other celebs are doing, so I don't think it's fair to single out Kate for "cheating" just because Steve is there.

Layla said...

Hmmm, didn't TFW just say in an interview that they don't wear top brands? Didn't she just brag on Twitter about her $10 fake Uggs? What a load of crap! Those Uggs are the real thing. Maybe she was able to grift new boots for herself and the kids to wear on their one-hour special. Or maybe she's just a big fat liar.

JR said...

Penn...loved your post...could not have said it better myself

Penn said...

What is the cost for a bodyguard 24/7 for 6 weeks?

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Maybe TFW doesn't mind if she's confronted about Flip-Flop Cop (had to bring that one back!) helping her out. If she's fired right away, she'll be sequestered. No hard work, a free hotel stay, and no kids -- gotta be her idea of paradise.

Concerned Chick said...

On TMZ Live

They showed Kate's pics from PieFace. All agreed she looks better now. All agreed she had work done to her face. They said she looks plastic.

One young guy said he doesn't care about her looks because she has no inner beauty. He also said Put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig.

One guy that called in. They asked him what he thought. Mentioned inner beauty. He said that he didn't care how good she looks now, that with her it's like buying a brand new car but inside the engine is horrible.

Jane said...

The one thing Kate will get out of this is publicity. The day after a celeb is fired, s/he is on the radio and various tv shows. There's a whole press tour and then they all come back for the finale. There's a big audience presence for the finale, which would be an opportunity for her to show the kids. She'll get lots of air time out of this, which is what she wants - hoping it will lead to a show of her own or at the minimum a regular spot on a show.

The kids will be starting a new school year if this airs in the fall, and at such vulnerable ages. Imagine the heartache they'll get from schoolmates.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I think anyone who uses outside support to help them is cheating. Not just Kate. They are to use the help of their team and any consultants sometimes shown on the show who are industry experts they can meet with. This is on the up and up and all shown on the show. Private counsel with support staff not shown on the show I s IMO beyond the scope of the game and unfair.

chefsummer said...

Jon was publicly with several women while still married
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And Kate was going around on tours while she was married and she still is going around with the same. Married man 6yrs later and 4yrs later after her divorce.

Concerned Chick said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 99
I think anyone who uses outside support to help them is cheating. Not just Kate.
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Of course. Agreed!

I only referred to Kate because the post is about her. LOL. And then there's the fact that all her tweeting fans are always tweeting how Kate gets things done. How she can do anything. How she is a master and will dominate her tasks.

If Steve is anywhere near her during the filming of this show at any time, she is not doing this alone on her own. And he's there. We saw the proof. So no one can now say she did Celebrity Apprentice on her own. Even if she doesn't use the kids, it shows she can't do ANYTHING on her own merit.

Tucker's Mom said...

If they are not having an affair, then shame on Steve for allowing her to be dependent on him. This reminds of so much of Anna Nicole Smith and Howard K. Stern. They had a longtime relationship and she was totally dependent on him.
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Thank you. I've said this before, this is why I think Steve is an opportunistic, lowdown dirtbag.
When he and Kate were splashed all over the tabloids, the better part of valor would have been to advise her to get another boobyguard, tell TLC to reassign him and urge her to get help.
Instead, this man became the family's de facto man/husband/father/financial advisor.
I think he's pernicious.

Concerned Chick said...

Also, just want to add that even if the rules say she can have outside help by anyone she wants, and every member of the show also has help, (whether viewers know this rule or not) she has still proven that she isn't capable of doing (especially finishing) anything on her own merit.

Concerned Chick said...

chefsummer,

AND the rumors and stories from "sources" about Kate cheating on Jon with Steve have been around since the beginning of all the "cheating rumors."

Jon was seen with Deanna the teacher in pubic. No kissing, no hand holding. No proof other than a photo of them driving in a car. He denied they were anything more than friends.

Same has been said about Kate. She "denied" it also. Even Jon thought they were possibly having an affair. And this was while they were NOT yet separated.

Why was Kate's denial any more believable than Jon's was at the time?

capecodmama said...

Formerly Duped...42

I know what you mean. I've chased my grill cover around the backyard a few times.

Millicent said...

I agree that having help from outside sources while doing CA (or any other competition-type show) is cheating. However --- and we should all know this quite well by now --- when are reality shows actual authentic and real. Very rarely. I think Amazing Race is probably pretty real, with little to no manipulation by producers, except for how they edit and what they show us of the contestants. But even on TAR, teams sometimes use outside help (asking a local to travel with them that day, to help them find places or translate for them, borrowing a stranger's cell phone to make flight arrangements, etc.)

So, Celebrity Apprentice. I feel positive that they like to high light drama and/or general craziness for ratings. The participants are celebrities, and I think Donald Trump would like to maintain some level of cordiality with them after the show has aired. Who knows when one of those celebs might come in handy as a contact or otherwise. Even someone like Donald Trump can be star struck. I thought he about fell all over himself to kiss up to Dennis Rodman, when clearly Rodman was having a hard time just showing up.

My point is that while the show wants to portray celebs as having to do all these tasks on their own, it's clear that the celebrities are treated differently than the regular contestants. Just one example: they don't have to live together for the duration of filming. They are provided hotel accommodations. If they have an event or conflict, they are permitted to leave temporarily and then return. So I wouldn't be surprised if when they leave filming and head out to their hotel room or to attend to other business, if they aren't spending time with a personal assistant, family members, friends, etc. And if they are with them, seems natural that they would be discussing what has happened so far, what's expected to happen, and how the celeb is planning to stay in the competition.

Math Girl said...

From last thread:

Over In Kate's County said... 55
In what states? Is this with or without parental consent, and must it be approved by a judge?

Thanks for the info. So it's just two states, and only with certain stipulations. When I read your post, I thought...what the heck, states allow marriage at age 13, thinking it was many more than just two.
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I think it's a lot more than two states, but there are stipulations. Here is a summary of ages of consent:
http://globaljusticeinitiative.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/united-states-age-of-consent-table11.pdf

JoyinVirginia said...

I appreciate folks posting twitter posts and tabloid excerpts here. my impression from limited info: TFMJG will be boring and will not bring in money as charity donations. Brandi and Kenya as the former Housewives may be set up as the catfight participants for the season. I still don't think TFMJG will get much camera time, and will be am early exit.
Mark Burnett productions is production company. Look at prior products for clues in how this will eventually end up as a story on TV.
Mark Burnett succeeds because he creates a story, a narrative arc, for the participants on the reality shows he produces. Look at Survivor for the original blueprint.
I did a little imdb research. Jessica Beeman is credited as ”Story Producer” for Celebrity Apprentice All Stars. Will she do this one too?
All the filming will be completed, the producers will know the eventual winner BEFORE THEY START EDITING! The Story Producer will create a narrative the film fits into, and editing will be done to create that story.
If TFMJG is as boring as I anticipate, she may find herself edited out of all but a few scenes. Burnet has done this before to Survivor participants he did not like for one reason or another. Noticeably people who go of by themselves a lot and avoid interacting with other players much.
The production staff, camera crew, sound people, they are all ESSENTIAL to capturing those moments on film that help create the narrative. Those are the people TFMJG may ignore because they are not important enough for her to be nice to. Just like the experience on DWTS, this will result in TFMJG being shown in her worst light, literally, and having a very negative edit. She wasn't cast to be the comic relief! But maybe they will end up using her that way.
This is gonna be FUN to watch the eventual product. It is not who wins, its the journey that is important!

chefsummer said...

Concerned Chick said... 104

Why was Kate's denial any more believable than Jon's was at the time?
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Well for me it the fact that Kate is a proven liar. I really don't care if Kate's Steve mistress.

I do believe that he's playing her for money and trips.

Penn said...

My opinion, CA knows darn well Steve is there, and pap photos will help ratings. If anything when they booked the hotel it was made known.
And honestly, rules? Its celebrity apprentice a reality show in the toilet which now features mostly ex reality show cast members whose careers are also in the toilet.
Jeopardy, yes there are rules and judges, Celebrity Apprentice? There is a man with the most complicated comb over who thinks our president got into the White House illegally.

jbranck1980 said...

I have no doubt that if TFW did cheat, DT and the other contestants will call her on it. Until the show airs, it is all speculation as to if she got help and how much.

That being said, her true relationship with Steve may never be revealed because she likes all the attention and the "Are they or aren't they?" drama.

Penn said...

JR said... 94

Thanks, I feel better having posted it! Her ever evolving logic boggles the mind.

Tucker's Mom said...

Concerned Chick said... 97
On TMZ Live

They showed Kate's pics from PieFace. All agreed she looks better now. All agreed she had work done to her face. They said she looks plastic.
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Thanks for the update.
Harvey doesn't much like Kate!
She's had a lot of work done and looks so, so different.
In some ways better, and in others, worse. She had a natural pretty face to begin with, now that's gone.

Remember that phone in interview to a radio station last year? It was part of her cookbook PR.
The DJ was like "wow, you're hot!" and he talked about banging her.
Two guys in the control room said, "Dude, you do NOT want any part of that bitch! Did you see how he cut her husband's balls off?"
He decided he'd still bang her.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Once again, the question begs asking...if TFW claims she can't get a nursing job because she'd be giving her paycheck over to the babysitter, then how does she explain this little adventure, during which she's paying Steve out of her own pocket, PLUS paying whatever childcare she's lined up?

Tucker's Mom said...

Jane said... 98
The one thing Kate will get out of this is publicity. The day after a celeb is fired, s/he is on the radio and various tv shows. There's a whole press tour and then they all come back for the finale. There's a big audience presence for the finale, which would be an opportunity for her to show the kids. She'll get lots of air time out of this, which is what she wants - hoping it will lead to a show of her own or at the minimum a regular spot on a show.
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This show isn't about Kate making a big paycheck- it's about more and more tv opportunities.
This is her chosen path in life, to be a professional D lister.
Remember, she wants to be away from her kids 50% of the time.
Glad she put that on record for the kids ;(

Vanessa said...

I just don't think that she is capable of having any kind of a relationship, except one where they are mutually using each other
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She is only capable of relationships where SHE is the one "using" the other, that is the only kind of relationship a narcissist CAN have. If this time it's "mutal" it's still wrong, dysfunctional, immoral and skanky. You seem to be debating that the hand holding incident is what's driving the obvious overwhelming opinion that they are an item. The"rumor" of them having a fling has had a life of it's own for a very long time with many candid pics, "insider" stories and behavior we have all been witness to. Jon had his "suspicions", does he need absolute PROOF they've done the nasty? Or is the betrayal to your husband and family less of a betrayal if it's only flirting, schmoozing, boozing, dining, vacationing, etc etc.? I could care LESS if they DID or DIDN'T hold hands on THAT particular night, it's the WHOLE package deal that's been going on FOR YEARS that convinces me. And whether she needs him around for her "mental illness" does not concern me, there are a list of other options that she could rely on, not a man who came between her and her husband. The comparison to a seeing eye dog is yet another example of people letting her get away with her shit.

Kate is a twit said...

They are to use the help of their team and any consultants sometimes shown on the show who are industry experts they can meet with. This is on the up and up and all shown on the show.
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Let's face it. CA is reality TV, it's not a game show like Jeopardy that is subject to certain rules and regulations.

They want us to assume that the celebs do it all on their own because that makes for a better show. If the celebs were actually doing it without any outside help, they would be forbidden from having any contact with friends, relatives, etc. and we know that is not the case.

What is shown on the show and what actually happens behind the scenes(as far as extra help) is anybody's guess.

chefsummer said...

He decided he'd still bang her.
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But not date her..more like a one night stand type of thing.

Tucker's Mom said...

If all the CA contestants have their "peeps" during filming, then they're all lame.
With Kate, she and Steve are a team on all levels. He's not going to isolate what he does to schlepping her crap around.
Steve advises Kate on everything.
If other CA contestants have a partner, like Kate, then that's cheating.

AuntieAnn said...

JR said... 90

Would love to see someone put her in her place in front of millions of people.. OMG...would it get any better than that??!!

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She really knows how to push people's buttons. Look at poor Tony in the 'I quit' scene at their dance rehearsal. She did it to Ashley and Jamie on the RV trip. She did it to Jon for 10 years. Aunt Jodi, Beth, her brother Kevin, the Palins...and so many others too numerous mention.

The CA castmembers are coached by the producers or whomever to make sure there's a lot of conflict for rating purposes, so I'm sure we'll see somebody there go after Kate's throat if she infuriates them the way she has everyone else. There's a chance she's ballsy enough to fight back.On the other hand, you might be right. She could draw back and say I don't get it I just don't get it.

At any rate, yes, it wouldn't get any better if she ends up in a brawl with one of the other narcissists on the show. Like I said yesterday, this season's Celebrity Apprentice might turn out to be our very own Field of Dreams.

Tucker's Mom said...

I could care LESS if they DID or DIDN'T hold hands on THAT particular night, it's the WHOLE package deal that's been going on FOR YEARS that convinces me
*****
Exactly. Enough people have witnessed how Kate and Steve behave- like a couple. This isn't hard to discern.
Smily faces on the calendar when traveling with Steve, extensively researching restaurants where they'll be, HUNDREDS of Steve photos and zero of Jon when on vacation.
It's a duck.

Tucker's Mom said...

But not date her..more like a one night stand type of thing.
*****
Definitely not date her.
Lots of guys love the Barbie look and will overlook Kate's misandry to bang her.
I don't believe she's asexual, so not having a man in her life for 5-6 years just reeks of having an affair that's on the down low.
How long have her kids been begging her to date? Not that I ever believed that.
Kids are devastated when a parent moves on.

Call Me Crazy said...

Well, after thinking about this a little more, I suppose it doesn't really matter if Kate asks Steve for help. Even if you combine their two brains, the resulting gelatinous mass wouldn't contain enough knowledge, inspiration or creativity to do much good.

Tucker's Mom said...

FlimsyFlamsy said... 114
Once again, the question begs asking...if TFW claims she can't get a nursing job because she'd be giving her paycheck over to the babysitter, then how does she explain this little adventure, during which she's paying Steve out of her own pocket, PLUS paying whatever childcare she's lined up?
*******
If Kate's lips are moving, she's lying.
Of course she could go back to nursing. In fact, if she had any sense at all, she'd have advanced her degree in nursing and could have been in management by now, making good coin.
She doesn't want to be a nurse. She just won't come out and say, 'Hey, I like the perks, freebies, attention, and money" that come with being a professional D lister.

Penn said...

Hate to say it but Donald Trump is a sucker for, (how can I say this) ...artificially enhanced women with a sob story.
And I'll bet dollars to donuts, his entire briefing on Kate is the following: has "survived" an ugly divorce, and SHE IS A SINGLE MOM of 8; he will give her all the time on her podium that she wants.

Nothing about her alienation of her entire family, her multiple law suits and the suspected abuse of her children, or even the exploitation of them.
So as much as that irritates me I am reminded of the careers of past contestants on this show, even the winners, where are they now?!

JR said...

....and lets face it Auntie...only a narcissist would be on a reality show...I actually used to work with someone who was on Fear Factor. You couldn't get this guys ego through the door. Thought he was untouchable and could get away with anything. It was very frustrating to deal with someone like that. you get nowhere because its their way or the highway...they really don't care what you think..

Formerly Duped said...

I hope people are getting sick of the gr8 kids stories ...it's really all she has to talk about. Yes the Uggs look real. Some piecing & patching.


capecodmama: I hope things are winding down there now...here it's sunny but the wind still a-howlin'.

JoyinVirginia said...

Call Me Crazy, I love the summary that the two brains of Rat Claws and TFMJG combined would be a ” gelatinous mass”! Too funny!
I nominate ” gelatinous mad” to be the new reference when talking about TFMJG and her booby guard.

JoyinVirginia said...

”Gelatinous MASS”
Auto correct strikes again!

Math Girl said...

l Paula said... 65
There is just so much not known here, it seems ridiculous to take it to extremes.

Some of us value our marriage vows. I'm sorry if you find that extreme.
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Valuing your own marriage vows is not extreme. Getting worked up about the marriage vows of someone you don't really know, based on speculation, may be. Not saying that you do or are, but I believe some people here do take it too far. Give Gina a break and let her worry about her own marriage.

Vanessa said...

Celebrity Apprentice? There is a man with the most complicated comb over who thinks our president got into the White House illegally.
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Ha ha! Valid point:)

Vanessa said...

@Joy,
Very good info

Vanessa said...

Jon was seen with Deanna the teacher in pubic. No kissing, no hand holding. No proof other than a photo of them driving in a car. He denied they were anything more than friends.

Same has been said about Kate. She "denied" it also. Even Jon thought they were possibly having an affair. And this was while they were NOT yet separated.

Why was Kate's denial any more believable than Jon's was at the time?
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Excellent point.

Penn said...

I could care LESS if they DID or DIDN'T hold hands on THAT particular night, it's the WHOLE package deal that's been going on FOR YEARS that convinces me

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The Vanity Fair article about Blad Head Island, the 4 days in Cabo San Lucas just the 2 of them. Wasn't it not long after he appeared that Kate told Jon it was over? And no dates in how many years? She is a witch, but her looks would certainly attract some idiot slob. No, I have no doubt most of the plastic surgery and upkeep is for Steve.
I wonder if in her past she only left bfs when someone better came along.
I still think it odd to have just gotten this mansion of a home, a renewed contract and flatly tell your husband it is over, but please "pretend" for the series that it is not. She could have her tv husband, and an arrangement with an already married employee.
She knew she would have her cake and eat it too, Steve knew the situation, Jon's presence wasn't a threat to him, early on.
just my opinion

Katykat said...

If she is so freaking mentally incapable of controlling herself/handling life by herself, etc.,and needs Steve by her side for the most basic of everyday activities, why the heck does she have custody of 8 kids?

chefsummer said...

Kids are devastated when a parent moves on
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It's sad is it that 8 kids have to goes thought seeing parents dating lives played out in public?

Mom might be dating uncle married Steve. And dad was going around dating a ton of chicks.

I feel bad for the 8 little faces that are watching their parents.

Penn said...

You know what, maybe its the pain killers and novacane in my jaw, but seriously, this woman whose family is already distancing themselves, your family contract is renewed on TLC and you have 8 young children.
And one day after traveling you come home and tell your husband, your costar of this successful series, the co-earner of more money than you have ever seen that it is over...but he can still live here and pretend to be happily married.
When I decided to leave my husband, it was done, over, I didn't want to see him or talk to him (too painful) lots of tears...still hurts some even though it was so long ago.
But Kate, flat, over, like changing furniture polish. Fake tears for a couple of interviews.
And...this part to me is HUGE, the idea that it is over, like that, but you still want him around....how are you going to have a relationship with any other man? Easy, you travel with him, out in the open. He knows the history....omg I am convinced they are a couple. Will have to find out the dates Steve was hired, and the date she told Jon it was over.....thanks for letting me ramble.

sparkle said...

Layla said... 93
Hmmm, didn't TFW just say in an interview that they don't wear top brands? Didn't she just brag on Twitter about her $10 fake Uggs? What a load of crap! Those Uggs are the real thing. Maybe she was able to grift new boots for herself and the kids to wear on their one-hour special. Or maybe she's just a big fat liar.
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Someone said on Monday it looked like Kate was pulling Louis V luggage. Did we ever get a confirmation on that? If so, I'm firmly convinced that when she's piecing and patching, she really means for the kids, specifically the boys. Kate spares no money for herself, her high-end name brands and her plastic surgery tweaks.

Tucker's Mom said...

Katykat said... 135
If she is so freaking mentally incapable of controlling herself/handling life by herself, etc.,and needs Steve by her side for the most basic of everyday activities, why the heck does she have custody of 8 kids?
March 26, 2014 at 1:02 PM
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Good question. I think Kate has the kids because the system favors moms.

Tucker's Mom said...

Mom might be dating uncle married Steve. And dad was going around dating a ton of chicks.
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The irony in that People article where the twin diss their father for dating many women is that Kate has been cavorting with a married man for years- when she herself was married.
Kate's relationship with Steve is no example for her children. They are too involved on many levels.
The children will think this lack of boundaries is norma.

Tucker's Mom said...

Penn said... 137
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Yup, they're hiding in plain sight.
Jon has said that the way Steve and Kate acted, it was like they were a couple.
They did this in front of Jon's face!
Other people assume they're a couple because they act like it.
I've been a boss and an employee, and I've never acted the way I do with romantic interests.
Besides, man or woman, you KNOW, in your gut and in your heart, that an affair is going on.

LaLaLandNoMore said...

TFW has received more passes than Jon because she has 8 (count them) kids to rear as a "single" parent. I have heard people on tv express their sympathy for TFW and her need to continue on tv for the money to properly support the kids. I also read some time ago that DT was impressed with TFW and her ability to have success. No one is going to morally point the finger at TFW. We appear to be among the people keeping it real.

My sympathy is still with Jon. He is more likeable, relatable, and overall more truthful than TFW. It is just so sad that he did not get good help when the divorce happened. He is not alone. When divorcing a person with a huge ego, this can happen to the person who tries to play fair. TFW has 8 kids and few friends for a reason. The fact that we only see her hanging out with the body guard is quite telling. She is paying for something. Not sure how far it goes, but she is paying. The excuse for using him during the TLC days was that she was vital to her children so she needed to be protected. I suppose that same old line will work now, too. Remember, single mom of 8 to those poor, rich kids TFW is and doing it on her own. Believe whatever we choose. I believe we have been fed packs of lies since their run on TLC began. That will never change.

I will not be watching CA, but will enjoy the recaps from our wonderful Administrator.

chefsummer said...

Cabo San Lucas just the 2 of them.
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You mean when Kate said that she waited by the phone for the kids to call so they can come home.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kate is a twit said... 117
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Yes,

Yes and,

Yes.

I agree with all you said.

Tucker's Mom said...

But Kate, flat, over, like changing furniture polish. Fake tears for a couple of interviews.
*****
Kate's explanation of the dissolution of her marriage never held water.
"Jon changed. Jon's an alien"
What?
So, Jon never smoked or drank when they were married? I highly doubt it.
Jon wanted to stop the show and that's when Jon was no longer useful to Kate.

Tucker's Mom said...

LaLaLandNoMore said... 142
TFW has received more passes than Jon because she has 8 (count them) kids to rear as a "single" parent
*****
Kate knows how to use buzz words, like refusing to 'reduce' her pregnancy, and having "preemies", and "bedrest" and "single mom" and "sole provider".

Penn said...

Tucker's Mom said... 141

Yes! And honestly I don't know of anyone, and I mean anyone, who wanted their marriage to be over but still keep the spouse around, working and living together (even over the garage). You're too disgusted, or too hurt to have them around and.....you want to move on! And how the heck do you move on with your ex at home?
What potential date is going to understand that situation?
And for years her weight was average, hair short, not much focus on her looks. After she told Jon it was over she seemed hyper-focused on her appearance. Hair, veneers, tanning, breast implants and extreme dieting. And the bikinis at Bald Head Island, Cabo San Lucas, and Australia. I don't think she ever tanned or wore a bikini in the early years. this was for the new man, hiding in plain sight.
Why I never thought about her ease in letting Jon stay after she declared the marriage over...I used to be sharper than that!

chefsummer said...

Tucker's Mom said... 140

Kate's relationship with Steve is no example for her children. They are too involved on many levels.
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Thank you.

It's not like Kate and Steve met in a bar or something and they didn't know each other's status.

Their families mingled together they spent time at each other's homes. That's why it more wrong in my book.

AuntieAnn said...

Ex Nurse said... 60
Yes, we in Seattle can't get enough of holding hands with everyone we meet. We do this because, after months of rain, when the sun breaks out, we stumble around like moles.

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hehe! I've heard the good people of Seattle were a friendly lot but never knew the reason. Rain.

Awful news coming out of your state about that mudslide.

guest said...

Yes hiding out in the open. Maybe this is why she couldn't work a regular job. She had to always be ready for any opportunity to travel with her married boyfriend.

guest said...

TV, even an interview here and there Steve would have an excuse to be with her.
Kate getting a regular job after her show ended would cut that off for sure.
I am amazed that at the time she thought Jon would think it okay to go on pretending and for how long?

chefsummer said...

guest said... 151
TV, even an interview here and there Steve would have an excuse to be with her.
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A charity event in her own town called for Steve to be there.

Mojave denizen said...

Do you know why Donald divorced Marla Maples? Because a tabloid reported seeing her and her bodyguard under a lifeguard tower. Yep. Not so sure the D will look upon Stevie with too much affection.

Remona Blue said...

Oh my goodness! Just logged on and see another topic! I've not read a thing yet, but wanted to address something in the last topic:

Ex Nurse said... 22
''TFW Country--the pearl clutching phrase came from a now defunct blog. They referred to posters of this blog as pearl-clutchers.''
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Ex Nurse, though you may have first heard the phrase on some defunct blog, IF you're talking about another blog about the Gosselins, but pearl clutching has been around for decades. The phrase was VERY popular on soap opera boards, and I remember hearing it on television in the late 80s/early 90s!

OK...I just googled the phrase, and this is what I found:
''The phrase pearl clutching, which means being shocked by something once-salacious that should now be seen as commonplace, like sex, is ubiquitous on blog posts, especially in media geared towards women.''
''Clutch the pearls” first appeared on In Living Color in the show’s 1990 debut season in an April 15 “Men on Films” sketch. After Blaine Edwards (played by Damon Wayans) waxes about how “daring” producers were to cast a male actor as the “female” lead in Dangerous Liaisons, his sidekick Antoine Merriweather tells him that Glenn Close is actually a woman, prompting Blaine to gasp, “Clutch the pearls!” The sarcastic phrase and its many permutations existed prior to In Living Color, of course; for instance, “she clutches her pearls” appeared in a 1987 article in an Australian newspaper about ladies who lunch.''

I love google! Before google, I would have been racking my brain trying to remember exactly when and where I first heard the phrase!!
Now off to catch up....

AuntieAnn said...

chefsummer said... 143

Cabo San Lucas just the 2 of them.
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You mean when Kate said that she waited by the phone for the kids to call so they can come home.

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I don't know if that was the time. I think she was on Regis and Kelly when Admin's main squeeze was filling in for Regis when she said that.

Wasn't the Mexico trip for some photo shoot? Why do I think she showed up on a magazine cover with her bellybutton missing. Yellow bikini? I can't remember anymore.

chefsummer said...

I don't know if that was the time.
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She went to Cabo with Steve more than once?-(I didn't know that)

AuntieAnn said...

Steve also took Kate to meet his parents in NZ. Is that a routine thing for a bodyguard to do? Did he bring the president of the USA home to greet mom and pop too?

Jane said...

AuntieAnn said... 155

Wasn't the Mexico trip for some photo shoot? Why do I think she showed up on a magazine cover with her bellybutton missing. Yellow bikini? I can't remember anymore.

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I remember a white bikini and Steve took the photos from a balcony? Was that Mexico?

Like you, iI'm no longer able to keep it all straight. There have been so many lies, so many screw ups, so many times the kids paid (in more ways than one) for her messes. Thank heavens for Kate is a Twit and others who are so excellent at keeping us all in line :)

Susantoyota said...

I remember a white bikini and Steve took the photos from a balcony? Was that Mexico?
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Wasn't that the Australia/New Zealand trip? There was also the product placement of Wet Wipes in the photo. I also seem to remember some shots that included the kids.

Kate is a twit said...

I don't know if that was the time. I think she was on Regis and Kelly when Admin's main squeeze was filling in for Regis when she said that.

Wasn't the Mexico trip for some photo shoot? Why do I think she showed up on a magazine cover with her bellybutton missing. Yellow bikini? I can't remember anymore.
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Auntie Ann--Kate did that interview with Anderson and Kelly on Sept. 10, 2010. A few days later, she and Steve were spotted in Cabo. I believe that the Cabo trip was for the People mag shoot when Kate appeared on the cover in a bikini. And yes, I think one of the inside pictures showed her in a bikini sans belly button.

Marie said...

I have been looking at all of the Celebrity Apprentice headlines and it seems to me that they are all about promoting TFW and Brandi as antagonistics. This is how they are going to bring in viewers. TFW brings controversy. That is what Trump wants. It has been the tagline on ALL of the celebrity apprentice shows. There is always a couple who are viewed and promoted as being troublemakers. That is why TFW is on this show. And that is why you are seing articles written by people like Rob trying to show TFW as a troublemaker already, to bring in the ratings. I will watch the show because I have always watched the show and won't stop just because TFW is on the show. She was probably given many incentives to come on this show, including bringing along her bobbyguard. I imagine with her personality that she is going to be very uncomfortable on the show but I can guarantee you that she will be kept on the show for a long time if she brings in ratings by being controversial and she will probably be paid incentives to do that.

Marie

Remona Blue said...

I'm wondering if TCFW managed to get RatClaws hired by Donald as 'security' during the shooting of CA. That way, not only would he have a 'legitimate' reason to be there, but Donald Trump/CA would be paying him! To me, that is exactly what the grifting former wife think of to do, and manage to pull off!

Rhymes with Witch said...

Ok, this is completely and utterly OT, but it made me smile and I want to share it.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/video-people-syndrome-reassure-future-moms-article-1.1730008

Jumping In said...

I tend to think they are not involved and that he is her "rock", just as Princess Diana felt about her butler Paul Burrell. TFW drew Steve in early and I believe he bought in to her drama, became her sounding board, and got a pay cheque to do it. I think he is a man of servitude, and when she snaps her fingers he is there to support her and prop her up. I do think Kate loves the speculation about the two of them, only because it gives her more attention, she does not care if it is negative attention.

What I see in the picture of the two of them above is a woman who is
most happy when her children are out of her day-to-day life. I have never, ever felt she had/has a connection with any one of them, they are here props, a vehicle to get her in the spotlight to fulfill her desire for fame. When she is away from them, she is giddy with delight, footloose and fancy-free, and the longer the better!

I think with every injection, with each cosmetic procedure, she has changed her looks with the sole purpose of conforming to a Hollywood standard. The goal remains the same, staying relevant, and she'll do whatever to takes to achieve it. I don't think there is room in Kate's life for a relationship where she gives anything of herself, because it is and always be about her. So, for me at least, Steve is a loyal servant to TFW who has a wife who is secure enough to let him take care of Kate as long as he brings home the pay packet.



Blowing In The Wind said...

Wasn't the Mexico trip for some photo shoot? Why do I think she showed up on a magazine cover with her bellybutton missing.

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The missing navel was in Mexico, on the beach. That was the time she gave an interview and said it was the first time she'd ever been out of the country. I remember we all laughed because she had previously been in Canada and joked that she thought Canada was part of the United States.

I want Nobu! said...

guest said...
TV, even an interview here and there Steve would have an excuse to be with her.

chefsummer said... 152
A charity event in her own town called for Steve to be there.

Penn said...147
And honestly I don't know of anyone, and I mean anyone, who wanted their marriage to be over but still keep the spouse around, working and living together (even over the garage).

The bodyguard has joint investments with her as well.

They thought they could dupe Jon into taking care of the 8 and filming so the money would keep coming in. Strong theory. I wonder if there was a master plan, I wonder what commitments if any Steve has made to Kate.
And like everyone else I ask why does Gina put up with it?

Rhymes with Witch said...

On topic: I don't know enough about CA to have an opinion about whether she is cheating.
However, I do find it odd that she never ventures outside of her "comfort zone" as someone described it without Stevie.

Blowing In The Wind said...

And for years her weight was average, hair short, not much focus on her looks. After she told Jon it was over she seemed hyper-focused on her appearance.

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It was after DWTS, when there were so many comments and photos that showed her looking bloated, snarking about her cankles and thunder thighs, that she went into extreme weight loss mode.

I want Nobu! said...

Would love to see all the events in the Steve-Kate timeline alongside the Jon & Kate timeline. Hindsight.
Trips interviews, surgeries, the end, the final end, investments, even the tanning and running, the marriage therapy that was cancelled and so on.

sparkle said...


I have summed up in my own words a few tidbits from RHs book.

When Jon and Cara went skiing in Utah in early Jan. 2009, Kate sent Steve with them. The book details how Steve and Kate exchanged numerous emails back and forth throughout the entire trip. She and Jon didn't email each other once. Loc 22314 in the book.

Also in January of 2009 (Jan. 12-17th) Kate and Steve went to Charleston SC alone to begin writing Kate's 3rd book "I Just Want You To Know How Much You Disappoint Me." This occasion was marked on Kate's calendar with a smiley face and four !!!! Loc 22708

When Steve, Kate and Mady went to San Diego in March of 2009, Steve and Kate went out alone every night, leaving Mady with a sitter. Witnesses staying in the hotel said all 3 appeared to be staying in the same suite. Loc 22737

During the BHI trip in 2010, Mrs. Neild and the kids were not there. Hawaii appears to be the only trip the entire Neild family attended. Kate and Steve walked alone on the beach every night while another bodyguard watched for paparazzi. Loc 23074

The same in Alaska. Kate and Steve went out alone every night.

Robert said "So is this a business relationship or something more? At this point, I couldn't be any less interested in finding the answer. What I do know is that if Kate gave even the slightest hint about her Christianity, she wouldn't be prancing around in skimpy clothing including tiny bikinis, with her married "bodyguard." She has heard the rumors for years and her ex husband sites the affair rumors as a reason for their marriage failing, but she continues to flaunt her relationship with Steve Neild in public. That's a sin Kate. Loc 23179

Bitchy Pants said...

Is it cheating? Yes, and I don't know.

Yes re Skeeve. Even if they are not actually fornicating, they give the APPEARANCE. An honest, respectful, faithful, loving wife (or husband) would have replaced him the minute her husband indicated he was uncomfortable with the relationship. The fact that she tried to laugh it off as "ridiculous" and "disgusting" is very telling.

Re "CA, I don't know. Are all the contestants forbidden from having "staff" hanging around and providing assistance? If the others are also using assistants in some of the tasks, then it's not cheating. If they are supposed to be doing it alone, then yes, she's cheating. Either way, she's demonstrating yet again that she cannot and does not do it all, all, all alone.

That US article had a very telling photo of TFMJG, index finger pointing as she was apparently ordering someone around. This show will probably be catfight central.

Anonymous said...

Pearl clutching has been around for a very long time.

"Of course people have been literally clutching their pearls in shock or otherwise for a long time. Here, for example, is a citation from a 1910 issue of the Chambers Journal, a weekly magazine that published fiction and nonfiction:

“Without being aware that I had stirred, I found myself close to the table. I drew a gasping breath, and my hand went out without any conscious volition and clutched the pearls.”

http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2012/02/pearl-clutch.html

As for DT being upset about Steve? He was sleeping with Marla Maples and she got pregnant while he was married to Ivanka. Pot, meet kettle. He'd have nothing to say about it.

PJ

Kate is a twit said...

ROL has an article about Johnny Weir's divorce. The following line in that article just shows how much ROL checks facts:

"Weir is currently filming the upcoming season of Donald Trump’s Celebrity Apprentice".

Penn said...

Wasn't Steve the "handyman" who built the pasta bridge school project that kate beamed about?

Boyson said...

Does this mean that Ratclaws will accompany TFW to the cab when she is fired?

Blowing In The Wind said...

Wasn't it not long after he appeared that Kate told Jon it was over? And no dates in how many years?

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We don't know if she had any dates. It's possible she did, and nobody was any the wiser. Seems to me I remember a coach that had taken her out a few times. Anyone remember that?

AuntieAnn said...

Thanks KIAT. I thought there was a photo shoot in Mexico. Was that when she and Steve were photographed walking together in some hotel lobby? She was wearing that blue top that was so low-cut the girls just about fell out. I think that was Mexico, too. ??

Jane is right - You and some others here are our go-to's for keeping this all straight in our minds. lol!

Blowing In The Wind said...

Getting worked up about the marriage vows of someone you don't really know, based on speculation, may be. Not saying that you do or are, but I believe some people here do take it too far. Give Gina a break and let her worry about her own marriage.

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Isn't this the sheeple's contention regarding the Gosselin kids being exploited? We don't know them, but still worry about putting them on display like some circus act. Should we, as the fans suggest, worry about our own kids and leave Kate to raising her own children?

AuntieAnn said...

I just googled 'Kate Gosselin and Steve Neild' images. Holy Batman Pajamas! There's hundreds of those two together. Hundreds I tell you!

Over And Out said...

Now this is just plain weird:

Macey♥ ‏@maceywanty328 20m
My hand pic.twitter.com/0pFINKFah5

Macey♥ ‏@maceywanty328 22m
@Kateplusmy8 what do u think of hand modeling

Flight of the Kiwi said...

Tucker's Mom said... 140

The children will think this lack of boundaries is norma.

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Norma Desmond?

This is funny on so many levels! Sorry Tucker's Mom. Couldn't resist.

Tucker's Mom said...

I think Kate and Steve should consciously uncouple for CA ;-)

JMO said...

Over And Out said... 64
Well, Kate treats Steve like a dog. Remember the RV fight when Steve refused to harass yet another person, who perfectly legally, took her unauthorized photo?

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Wasn't that also Jon's complaint in the toy store episode? "You treat me like a friggin dog."
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There you have it. TFW moves from one man to another- who will support her every view and opinion. Steve is a paid employee and she will hang on to any man who will support her selfishness. She allegedly had a prior boyfriend, before Jon who she allegedly cheated on, because new guy had a Corvette.

Steve will go along with whatever Kate says as he is her "employee." And her co-dependency issues will always require she has a male close by, who will affirm her choices ( even if they are paid)..

There are past instances noted of these two (Steve and Kate ) that draw attention to them as a "couple" and honestly not sure why he is still hanging with her, as he is now Honey Boo Boo body guard, so it is strange that he is still always available to Kate for every gig and contract.

On another note, why does this woman constantly need a bodyguard. No one cares anymore. Her co-dependency is clearly out of control if she can not manage to ever go anywhere alone. Says a lot about a woman who claims to be so self reliant.

lukebandit said...

Is this what kate will pay for Steve's services while on CA?

1600 per day x 7 days per week x 6 weeks equals 67,200.00

Two little peas
Sneaky in a pod,
One a nut case,
The other one a fraud.

Real Uggs not on the cheap
The kids pockets she robs
And now over time
Not so deep

Steve is a enabler
And a fraud
Because of "her" money
He beds this broad

JMO said...

Marie said... 161
Yep! Remember her ridiculous crane '"dance." TFW has no shame at all, which indicates she has no boundaries or shame.

On DWTS,you go out fighting, not standing in a crane lift because you are "too tired" to dance. She really has zero work ethic.

LaLaLandNoMore said...

Tucker's mom, you hit the nail on the head! Jon did want the show to end and that did it for greedy grifter Kate. I have to admit that I cannot stand the fact that television appearances keep falling into her lap. There has been very little positive written about TFW since the six were born and that was 2004. Used to follow Z on tv at Baltimore Sun and he and his followers roasted every program. No one could understand why she was still around on television. Still scratching my head and feeling duped by NBC and TLC when it comes to Kate. I do not think she cares a lick what we think or what anyone thinks about her. Carrie Ann on DWTS was correct when she said Kate lacked self awareness. It is obvious.

I, too, find it strange that she has not been dating anyone since the divorce. Will not be surprised if at some point there is an announcement. Guess we can say, "told you so" and Jon will be vindicated for once. My grandma used to say that time vindicates the prophet and that is very true. There is no way I would allow my husband to travel around with a skimpily clad 30 something woman alone or with 8 kids and multiple nannies. Grandma also said, "where there is smoke there is fire." She never missed on that one. There is more to the story that we may never know. I, for one, hope TFW is fired following the first task. Oh wait, maybe that would mean another cover on People. Never mind!

JMO said...

Kate is one of those people who is never happy with what she has, and needs constant ongoing attention/adoration and validation, Think having 2 sets of multiples (under circumstances known), and her constant need for attention, marketing kids prior to their birth.

Jane said...

@GeraldoRivera: We had a great day yesterday with our hugely successful Celebrity Pie Face sale. We rocked NY's 7th Ave raising over $280, 000 for charity.

Over And Out said...

Aw, Glady is worried that her widdle Katie will be picked on. Time for some cyber hugs and hand-holding.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack Mar 25
@SandieBellz Im w/U Sandie! Kate gives her all..she's not a sloucher 4sure! I worry abt the #drama..because that is a big premise of show!

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack Mar 25
@SandieBellz I told her how proud we all were 4her 2venture into this...certainly out of her comfort zone! Her willingness 2try new things!

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack Mar 25
@SandieBellz I worry abt that too! It's hard 2b assertive as a woman...w/out coming across as #bossy! Fine line. I fully support her..:)

CAS said...

Geraldo Rivera‏@GeraldoRivera·51 mins
Thx to everyone who participated in our charity fund-raiser. There are developmentally disabled youngsters whose lives will now be enriched

I'm assuming that the men's team won. Do the women have to give the men the money they collected?

Tucker's Mom said...

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/03/kate-gosselin-jon-bad-idea-forced-kids-eight-television-reality/
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Yet another article about Kate and Jon- about filming the special. First of all, old news. Second, why, God, why?
Kate is getting an unreal amount of stories written about her.

Why would Jon publicly speak out against filming if he made a deal to let them film for no child support payments?
I mean, if this was Jon's deal, then he'd keep his mouth shut.

PatK said...

Radar Online‏@radar_online·2 hrs
Caption this pic of @Kateplusmy8 at the ‘Buy A Pie for Charity’ event: We'll RT a few! http://bit.ly/1o14hBG pic.twitter.com/EMw8oielm3

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"Come and gitchyer popcorn...errr...PIES!"

sparkle said...

In May of 2009, Kate, Steve and the kids were in Bald Head Island. TLC was paying for the kitchen remodeling that was going on, the 10k/week beach house, Kate's 25k per episode salary and Steve's $1,600/day salary. All while Jon was being vilified in the press as the adulterer and Kate was the strong (cough) and sniffiling victim.

Kate was being paid to vacation in a paid for beach house, while getting her kitchen remodeled, while possibly having an affair with her "bodyguard" while Jon was being made out as the philandering jerk. Even though she told him their marriage was over months ago, she came out smelling like a rose. That whole scenario is narcissist crack, heroin and a wet dream all rolled into one.

sparkle said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack Mar 25
@SandieBellz I told her how proud we all were 4her 2venture into this...certainly out of her comfort zone! Her willingness 2try new things!
$$$$$$$$$$$

True Milo, she did venture out of her comfort zone.... but I think desperation, being fired repeatedly and zero opportunies provided that last push out of her zone of denial, not willingness 2 try new things.

chefsummer said...

lukebandit said... 184
Is this what kate will pay for Steve's services while on CA?

1600 per day x 7 days per week x 6 weeks equals 67,200.00
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Maybe she can pay with a coupon and chipotle gift cads and blue shirts,

chefsummer said...

PatK said... 192
Radar Online‏@radar_online·2 hrs
Caption this pic of @Kateplusmy8 at the ‘Buy A Pie for Charity’ event: We'll RT a few! http://bit.ly/1o14hBG pic.twitter.com/EMw8oielm3

&&&&&&&&

"Come and gitchyer popcorn...errr...PIES!"
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This is my Future job once the kids wise up and star suing me.

LancasterCountyMom said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 163
Ok, this is completely and utterly OT, but it made me smile and I want to share it.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/video-people-syndrome-reassure-future-moms-article-1.1730008
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I saw that on FB the other day - it's terrific! Thanks for sharing it! :)

chefsummer said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack Mar 25
@SandieBellz I worry abt that too! It's hard 2b assertive as a woman...w/out coming across as #bossy! Fine line. I fully support her..:)
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Assertive? is that another word for bitch? Then KK is very assertive.

And I'm sure know that Milo supporting KK makes her sleep well at night.

Over And Out said...

Radar Online‏@radar_online·2 hrs
Caption this pic of @Kateplusmy8 at the ‘Buy A Pie for Charity’ event: We'll RT a few! http://bit.ly/1o14hBG pic.twitter.com/EMw8oielm3

&&&&&&&&

"Come and gitchyer popcorn...errr...PIES!"

That link didn't work for me, so I tried this one:

https://twitter.com/radar_online/status/448969905124040704/photo/1

Caption:

"Hey, Gladys! Yeah, I'm looking at you! For once in your life, shut the heck up. Just shutupshutupshutup."

I think a caption for the photo on the previous thread here would be funny.

"OMG. Steve! A mop. My good bra just sprang a leak."

NJGal51 said...

CAS asked - I'm assuming that the men's team won. Do the women have to give the men the money they collected?
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The project manager of the winning team normally gets all the money raised for his/her charity plus whatever the show has put up for the task.

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