TLC stinks said... 182 Perhaps getting a home closer, and hopefully bigger, will allow him more time with ALL the kids. ***** One of the things that I read (I think linked from here) about divorce "rules" is that the parents should live near each other. I think it's great that Jon's bought a house 4 miles away. I, too, hope that this allows him more time with the kids. Heavens knows that Jon will never be invited or allowed into the compound any time soon, if ever.
Apart from watching Jon from her bed, it's annoying that she must be doing her piecing & patching from under the covers too. She has no idea what some people do to earn minimum wage.She claims she's busy from dawn to dark, then sends tweets like these? Give me a break!
Wonder what backlash the twins got at school re: People, if any. Curious!
Nice to able to comment that you went back to bed this morning. How many of her working mom sheeple get to do that? And why even put it out there? I, for one, am pleased that JG has found a house closet to his children, and pleased that he can speak normally and easily to an interviewer. Probably not a bad thing that Liz did not appear, but definitely a good thing to make it known that both he and Liz get along with her ex.
TFW must be seething back in bed. Nobody except Kate Coyne wants to put her out there, she fails miserably when she does speak, and her latest flop crapbook took her where - NJ and suburban Canada, for a week at best. And while she may have aspirations for the daughters to keep HER in public view, it is quite true that they did not come across as anything amazing, more like the indulged and entitled teens that they probably are. In other words, somewhat normal kids, kids with baggage. They are not the next Kendall & Kylie Jenner, sorry Kate, plus you yourself do not come close to the evil talents and connections of Kris Jenner. So enjoy that going back to bed thing while it lasts.
she put the kids on TV behind his back, and Kate will continue to do that, and possibly get away with it. It sounds like Jon will be going to a lot of family court in the future. So the bird & 1d tickets were a bribe to do People.
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What did he say that would confirm that he's going back to court? What reason did he give that he's going to spend time there?
So he definitely said that the bird and the magazine cover were bribes?
I missed the show. Admin, you need to put reminders here because there are so many of us who go back to bed after the kids go to school and we miss morning television!
I really like that Jon had a vasectomy. Man, that seems too TMI and frankly, none of my business, BUT... with 8 kids, how much more thinly can your spread yourself? Plus, there's a good chance the next woman you're with has kids, as Liz does (3). It's hard for kids to adjust to the "ours", let alone the "yours" and "mine". Smart move, imo.
JR said... 188 Kate said she went back to bed this morning..... WHAT AN EFFING LIAR....she doesn't want anyone to think she saw Jon on the WW show. Shes too obvious....She probably recorded it... Ha
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She could have watched it while she was in bed. She didn't tweet that she went to sleep! If she tuned in, I wonder how many coffee mugs she broke while throwing them at the television! I can just picture that...
Carole: Yeah, must be nice. Kate sure sleeps a lot. She goes to bed about 9pm, gets up at 5:45am, 8+ hours, I'm luck if I get 5 hours of sleep. And Yet, Kate complains of being tired, no energy, she needs a vacation. Her idiot fans, say it's cause she runs after kids, well here's a flash for her fans: Kates kids are 9 & 13, they are away from house in school for close to 10 hours, 5 days a week, when school is in session. Kate, does not work any job, and has hired help for 20 hours a week , and does no housework cause kids do it after school. So what does Kate do all day? Sleep part of it, probably soak in tub, of wait, did Kate not tweet, recently that, she baths when kids are home. Oh, I guess, cooking. BS!
Oh yeah, she sure paints quite a picture. How many people have kids, all of them mind you, with smiles on their faces early in the a.m. trudging off to school? I think she was not even awake this a.m. and the not-a-nanny took them. And yes, she wants the world to think she did not watch Jon on WW.
Blowing In The Wind said... 194 Oh, good. Now Kate only needs to grift for a Delorean and a flux capacitor.
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I was thinking more along the lines of an Edsel, or if she's really desperate, an AMC Gremlin. ******* I was thinking "Back To The Future", lol. She's going to need that technology for her "upcoming" event in 2012!
(Leslie) I thought by law they had to put 15% away for the kids. I know it wasn't like that in the beginning but in the end it was. So I too am confused by the 8%. Does anybody think he could have said 80%. It wasn't clear to me.
Anyway, regardless of how much money is in a trust or what percentage was put aside for them, the bottom line is they live in a great house, great education, etc. . And I do believe there will be enough money to see them through college. And again, all that money that has been and will be in the future to support the kids came from THEIR filming. They had 2 reality shows with their names in the title. They had 4 books and three of them were 100% about them. They were the draw of the show & books. And the kids belong to Jon just as much they belong to Kate. So therefore, the kids have been and will be supporting themselves. Kate is NOT supporting them. And the kids are not supporting Jon either. That is why I firmly believe the judge let Jon stop paying child support. Because the judge had physical proof (bank statements) that there is plenty, plenty money to raise 8 kids through college. And Jon had already paid a large sum in support earlier by those $22,000 a month payments. Otherwise I don't think the judge would let a father 100% off the hook for child support. And of course Jon is paying for their support when they visit him but the major bills are paid from their filming. Kate is just writing the checks. But the money is the kids.
I want to thank those of you who watched the WW show and gave a recap, because I missed it! Arrggh!! Hopefully, it will be available online at some point.
I'm willing to bet Kate will not let this go without getting her face on tv for some kind of rebuttal.
It is rather odd that she doesn't tweet for two days and then decides to throw in a random "don't forget I exist" tweet right after Jon's WW appearance.
But the infighting here is increasing, it seems, perhaps because we're suffocating under the weight of these realizations. _________________________
Hi Empress - I don't see that infighting has really been increasing and I, for one, don't feel suffocated. There are too many other interesting topics going on that prevent me from feeling like I need to get out from under. But everyone views things differently.
Every once in a while, a hot-button topic will arise, but everything usually gets sorted out with civility (sheeple invasions notwithstanding). The main type of problem I see as contributing to exasperation is when someone continuously drags every single topic back to actions from the distant past that no longer seem relevant (e.g., all roads leading back to Jon's "string" of young babes in 2009). That constant drum beating after making the initial point is really the only type of post that irritates me after a while.
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Not surprised Jon thinks she bribes the kids. Pretty obvious. _____________________________
Yes. Robert said in his book that it was standard operating procedure during filming to bribe the kids to get them to do what was needed. I have no doubt that TFW always did and continues to use bribery extensively to get the kids to do/say what she wants.
Kate made the right choice getting rid of this immature,cry baby looser. John Gosslin's girl friend looks like a "full throttle saloon" patron. Kate has class and her choice of a new husband put her further in an upper class society. I turned you off Wendy when you had the pig on your show. Kate is a hard working, beautiful women and a good mother. SHAME ON YOU. I NEVER THOUGHT YOU WOULD STOOP SO LOW AND TO GIVE THIS 'HARD ON THE EYES" LOOSER. SEXUALLY? UGH! KUDO'S FOR KATE.for vomiting this looser out of her life
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It sounds like the New Sheriff In Town!
Glad to know that Kate's new husband isn't a LOOSER! Nothing worse than not being fastened together tightly!
She has always slept a lot. On the show she was not up when Jon left for work so I always wondered if the crew were watching the kids until she rolled out of bed and got some makeup for the show (it was daylight) when she'd appear in their bedroom, confined to their cribs with soiled diapers.
Didn't I read somewhere that at the big house she used to lock the kids in their bedrooms at night?
Locallyocal......I am pretty sure Jon said the new house is in addition to the one in the woods. I didn't realize he was renting that one. I also thought he said 80 % of the first 3 years of the show went into trust funds for the kids. I guess 10% each. But he did say the first 3 years of the show, so who knows how the cut happened when they were making the big bucks.
What a difference it makes when a journalist (Wendi, you've earned that title) is willing to go against the tide and give the other side a fair forum to tell their side. Jon seems to do his best when he feels respected and safe.
Laughing at the Kate's dating show comments above, gone for 90 days. That was MY post I think on People. It was supposed to be sarcasm, directed at Kate's fans, who think it would be great to have a dating show and not harmful to kids to be gone for an extended period. Someone else had made a comment about Kate having a "7 figure deal" w/ Oprah for a talk show. I'm a usual poster here but for this I'll use anon.
TLC stinks said... 11 Oh yeah, she sure paints quite a picture. How many people have kids, all of them mind you, with smiles on their faces early in the a.m. trudging off to school?
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Do the teens portrayed in that People article seem like the type to get up sunnily and smile their way off to school? NOPE
She never went back to bed...She hasn't tweeted for days...all of a sudden, right after Jons appearance she surfaces to state she was in bed this morning...we know she watched it. He made her sound like a total ass. Shes fooling no one...Yeah right Kate..you slept through it O.K....why does she even bother tweeting? No one bought that....except Milo of course.
Wonder what backlash the twins got at school re: People, if any. Curious! ====
I was wondering about that, too. Jon said they get all the magazines in school, they read about everything.
So what does Kate do? Puts their faces on People with that snide grin of hers right in the middle. No one can tell me this wasn't a planned effort to show him who's in charge. Ugh. She's so vindictive.
Blowing in the wind: Jon did not say that in the interview. You need to watch the interview. Jon said he would stop the kids from being on TV again. He said how he had to go to family court to stop the show. Which means, any time Kate wants to put kids on TV, Jon will have to go to court to stop that, that is if he knows about it. CWS, Jon did not know about it till after it was filmed. Kate must do one hell of a bribing to get the kids to remain silent, about things she does. Jon talked about the fact, he thinks/knows the kids are being bribe by Kate. The bird & 1D tickets were around the time of the People interview, with twins. And It looks as if Jon, did not know of the interview. I said Jon will be going back to court in the future to keep the kids off TV, or anything else.
If anyone read Amanda Knox's book, she talks a lot about how well her parents co-parented even though they both were divorced and remarried. She was also close with both stepparents. Her stepdad moved to Italy full time during her case so her mom could be in the US with her siblings.
In any case she said she never felt particularly upset by their split and got along well with both. And guess what, her dad lived in the same neighborhood, so she would just pop over there whenever. I think that certainly played a huge role. Her story of prison was moving but I found what she had to say about being from a functional divorced family to be just as important. And what greater test of that than what she went through.
Interesting that TFW should say that the twins had their 'first' magazine cover.
Ummm...wasn't she on it with them? Doesn't really make it *their* first magazine cover then. They've been on covers before, along with their siblings and their mother.
If was *their* first mag cover, I would expect it just to be the two girls. Not the two girls and their mother (trying to act like it's 3 besties).
But we all know TFW can't allow that. She's just gotta get her face in there, too.
Blowing in the wind: That's cause, her new husband(really?) is GROW A HUSBAND! LOL Another sheeple, with facts not straight. And they are HER fans. LOL
She states on her blog: "We found him “by accident” sometime back in October. Cara, Mady, Collin and I were at the pet store picking up some water conditioner for our beta fish, Fizzy and Finn. "
If she really got him for C and M to do People, I feel sorrier for the bird than ever. That means she will just grow to resent the work and mess. Well, the mess; she won't do any of the work.
TrustMoney said... 3 I believe Jon said, EIGHTY - 80% went into trust and I think that's what he's said in the past. Someone can doublecheck that.
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I went back an listened to the interview again, and yes, Jon said 80%. I believe he also gave that figure when he appeared on the View.
I felt the interview was good. Wendy even asked Jon if he thought Kate and Steve had an affair. Jon said that they travelled a lot together and he though it was inappropriate. When she pressed and asked him again if deep down did he think they were an item, all Jon said was "Uh, maybe. I don't know. I don't think about it any more".
After Jon's interview, they had the Ask Wendy segment, and as they cut in from commercial, Wendy had apparently been talking to a member of the audience about Jon. Wendy said "We all feel sorry for Jon Gosselin. We really like him", and the whole audience broke into applause".
Localyocal: Kates & kids found this bird by accident? Really, LOL, Most pet stores have a bird or 2 in large cages, away from rest to show the bird, which is outside of cage to show how tame the bird is. If Kate had been going to pet stores for years, she would have seen various birds, there on display. Why don't we try Kate as, you took kids to Pet store to get supplies and your kids begged you to get them a bird, which you said at time no. Then People or Kate Coyne called you and wanted to do a interview with your girls, knowing Jon would probably say no, you bribe the kids with bird to remain silent, if Dad asks you what your mother is up to. She is so transparent!
So while Kate lounges in her royal bed, does Shoka just wander the perimeters? Sit in his doghouse? Does Zorro's birdcage get covered up again so he won't disturb the sleeping beauty?
Blowing in the wind: Jon did not say that in the interview. You need to watch the interview.
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You said, "So the bird & 1d tickets were a bribe to do People."
This sounded like a fact, which is why I asked if Jon came out and said it in the interview. Just because it was around the same time doesn't mean that this was a bribe. Quite possibly, yes, but I thought that perhaps he discussed this on the show. We really don't know.
Thank you everyone who watched the Wendy Williams show and posted details. good for Wendy for pointing out how great Saint Tony Dovolani of the Ballroom is! TFMJG wasted completely the golden opportunity to learn a skill from a gifted teacher.
I felt the interview was good. Wendy even asked Jon if he thought Kate and Steve had an affair. Jon said that they travelled a lot together and he though it was inappropriate. When she pressed and asked him again if deep down did he think they were an item, all Jon said was "Uh, maybe. I don't know. I don't think about it any more". ******** This scores big points with me. It's in the past. If, if Kate and Steve have more than a professional relationship, it seems to have been in the past. Affairs are like that. They can burn hot and flame out. I think Jon's approach that hey, it's in the past and I've moved on, let's all move on, is a good one. Kate would never have that kind of grace. Or sanity. Think about it. Think about how much sympathy Jon could get from playing that card. But, he never has. Kate, and now the kids, are living in the past.
She never went back to bed...She hasn't tweeted for days...all of a sudden, right after Jons appearance she surfaces to state she was in bed this morning...we know she watched it. He made her sound like a total ass. Shes fooling no one...Yeah right Kate..you slept through it O.K..
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She was on Twitter yesterday. Isn't it possible she went back to bed but didn't go to sleep? Just made herself a cup of coffee, napped a bit (maybe) and then turned on the television when the show was on at 10 a.m.?
If she put it out there to make her adoring sheeple believe that she didn't watch Jon because she was asleep, then she would have to admit that she slept from the time the kids left the house (7 a.m.) until after the show (11 a.m.). That's a darn long nap! Who does that?
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 2h 2day I'm xtra grateful 4 the smallest things: 8 early am smiles&hugs,hot coffee on a rainyday, &a quick return 2bed b4 the day begins agn! ***** I really get the feeling that Kate's "20 hours a week" helper takes the kids to the school bus in the morning. You don't get up, dress, drive in the bracing chill and peel those clothes off to jump back into bed unless you are really a hurting unit.
(Leslie) Not mentioned was Jon said he has to do most (if not all) the driving to get the kids. He picks them up at the school bus and then lets them off at the end of the driveway. Did Jon say Kate picks them up at the end of his driveway or does Jon drop them off at the end of Kate's driveway? I can't remember exactly what he said about that. It is sad that the kids can't be dropped off at her doorway. How petty of her!
Well you know, good for Jon trying not to comment on Kate and Steve. Yes, they traveled together. A whole lot. Yes, it was inappropriate, but I still think the 'couple' or 'coupling' part was largely in Kate's head. Doubt Kate is interested much in physical relationships, shit, she can't even cuddle with her children, and who knows that better than her ex-husband. If those two were an 'item', where is he now? No reports of sharing holidays with him and his kids, no Steve sightings in the 'hood. She still pays him to travel with her, but I don't think Steve gave up his marriage for TFW. She is alone, and lonely, but probably doesn't understand why. No one understands how to help her; soon enough her children will be on that list too.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 2h 2day I'm xtra grateful 4 the smallest things: 8 early am smiles&hugs,hot coffee on a rainyday, &a quick return 2bed b4 the day begins agn!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h @Kateplusmy8 LOL..sounds like a good plan 2me! Gratefulness makes one treasure those so-called insignificant things even more! #Happiness
So I guess Milo thinks that Kate getting hugs and smiles from her children is one of those "so-called insignificant things".
I thought Milo didn't pay attention to the haters? After she was getting some ribbing about saying that People was sold out when she tried to get copies, she apparently felt a need to address them:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h 4all U poor souls attacking me abt "not finding recent PeopleMag w/Kate"...I live N a rural community...they R sold out! But don't fret....
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h ....my SIL went 2the big city and picked up several copies...so U all can calm down now! I won't go without...:)
She's so like Kate. Claims to block the bullies, yet can't help reading what they say about her.
Exactly just like it's not fair for Kate to dwell on and obsess over his dating from 5 years ago so too is it not healthy for him to obsess about Kate and Steve. He's right it's over, time to move on. The past is what it is.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 37 I don't think about it anymore.
Exactly just like it's not fair for Kate to dwell on and obsess over his dating from 5 years ago so too is it not healthy for him to obsess about Kate and Steve. He's right it's over, time to move on. The past is what it is. ****** Another reason to move on is that Jon apologized. He has said this over and over again. He is sorry. He apologized to Kate. I believe him.
Just watched the interview and yes, Jon came across as someone who is finding himself after being maligned for so many years. He managed to present his side of things without any nasty innuendos toward Kate, he simply spoke the truth.
He began to explain why he would go back on television but the conversation got a little sidetracked. I think he knows that by being "well known" he can capitalize on that and earn a bigger income, but all without using his children. But, if he doesn't find a niche back in the television world, he will continue to work in the restaurant(s), he is not fixated on fame.
I did get a kick out of WW talking about how difficult Tony Donovan found TFW on DWTS, and Jon didn't have to say a thing. I wonder how Kate feels being thrown under the bus and publicly exposed.....possibly for the first time.
Anonymous said... 45 (Leslie) Not mentioned was Jon said he has to do most (if not all) the driving to get the kids. He picks them up at the school bus and then lets them off at the end of the driveway. Did Jon say Kate picks them up at the end of his driveway or does Jon drop them off at the end of Kate's driveway? I can't remember exactly what he said about that. It is sad that the kids can't be dropped off at her doorway. How petty of her!
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My ex always came in with my DD, carrying her stuff, talked about their weekend. TFW is such a........
OK, watching Jon's segment on Wendy because I missed the first half of it. I didn't realize Jon actually lived in Utah and California and flew back for custody. That sucks, but again, now he's 4 miles away, so his learning curve is good (not flat like Kate's). Moving on. Funny off the cuff comments about Steve! "Eh, he's really not that tall" and "Huh, yeah, Target" when asked about Kate always, always being with Steve. Exactly, Jon. Why the heck did Kate need Steve to run routine errands with her? (there's a part of me that thinks that Steve put the fear of God into Kate about her security so that his services would be needed- job security and all). So, then Wendy announces they're going to break and the audience audibly moans! Never, ever, not ever has that happened to Kate. Suck it. Jon's watchable, and a big reason may be that there is no "Jon fatigue", so there's at least a small upshot to TLC's gagging him for 2 1/2 years. Wendy assures the audience "we're coming back!" Like, calm down people, there's more!
Also, when Jon said he'd "fight it" if Kate wanted to put the kids onto another reality tv show, the audience broke out into spontaneous applause. Loudly. I'm sorry for reporting 8% of income going into kids' trusts. Jon said 80% x 3 years.
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Did they show Jon's reaction to or did he comment on what WW was saying about Kate on DWTS or was he off stage by then?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h 4all U poor souls attacking me abt "not finding recent PeopleMag w/Kate"...I live N a rural community...they R sold out! But don't fret....
So where do you live in the boondocks? I been to a few small towns and even they have places they sell magazines. Perhaps where you live didn't want to sell Kate's people issues ever think of that?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h ....my SIL went 2the big city and picked up several copies...so U all can calm down now! I won't go without...:)
Just before the first break in the interview, Wendy was saying what she still wanted to talk about with Jon.
When she said "I want to talk about the children", Jon said "I won't listen". He may have mentioned them when talking about his relationship with Kate, but he did not talk about anything personal about any of them. Unlike their mother.
Jumping In, any long time fan of Dancing With The Stars knew that TFMJG was not getting along with folks on that set. From the not-quite-right costumes, hair, makeup to Tom Bergeron's comments to the final unflattering hoisting on a cherry picker with the most unattractive cameras angle and lighting ever. It was obvious that things were not running smoothly. This is the show that made Nancy Grace look like a princess! I wish I could hear all the stories from the crew working on this show at that time.
I can't wait for Kate to come out and call Wendy Williams a liar in regards to her comment about what Tony Dovalani said about her. It's one thing to try to discredit Jon but to go up against Wendy id a whole different game and one which Kate will lose. Wendy is very well respected by her peers in the media, Kate not so much.
When she said "I want to talk about the children", Jon said "I won't listen". He may have mentioned them when talking about his relationship with Kate, but he did not talk about anything personal about any of them. Unlike their mother. ***** I believe Jon said, "I won't LIST them" as in, he's not going to single out any child by name.
Lynne In RI said... 60 Will this interview be available online, or in a post here? Darn, I missed it. I went back to bed. It's what you do on a rainy day, don't you know?
So where do you live in the boondocks? I been to a few small towns and even they have places they sell magazines. Perhaps where you live didn't want to sell Kate's people issues ever think of that?
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There are probably two stores that each stock three copies. To Milo, that's a huge sell-out. She made it sound like hundreds of them flew off the shelf the first day.
"Jon Gosselin only communicates with Kate Gosselin by text message and the former reality star hasn’t seen his ex-wife for a long time. "
How can you not see your ex during pickup/dropoff? Either those kids have to walk up and down the driveway (even in the rain?) by themselves or there is hired help walking or driving them. She is such a tool.
Oh and this article says he suspects there are ultimatums which is a little different than bribes. It could be "if you don't do this you will not have your phone or you will be grounded..."
Was this live? I think so because I saw some photos of him earlier today leaving the show. If TFW thought the People article would destroy him it doesn't seem to have worked. He doesn't seem surprised or phased by her doing what she did.
where is he now? No reports of sharing holidays with him and his kids, no Steve sightings in the 'hood. _____
Hmm a mistress does this as well.
Sorry chef, don't think TFW is anyone's mistress. My gut feeling is that their relationship was largely business, maybe with some emotional ( on her part) overlays, and a lot of 'tease' about things physical. He does not seem to be around much lately, as she does not have much to do that takes her off and away. Her 'relationship' with Steve falls into that category of 'been there, who cares?'.
For as much ugliness that's occurred between Jon and Kate, I don't get the sense that Jon harbors any anger. Even after Kate fires volley after volley, he just doesn't seem to be bitter, but moreover, beaten down. This is probably in great part to rebuilding and building relationships that suffered under Kate's rule. I just can't find it believable that Jon would refuse or push back against direct contact with Kate, in order to better communicate about the kids. I know I'm biased, but I truly think it's all Kate when it comes to this stilted method of handing off the kids and lack of co-parenting. It also says some good about Liz that she has a sane, working relationship with her ex for the sake of her children. It's a shame that Jon and Kate's relationship is the "polar opposite".
I believe Jon said, "I won't LIST them" as in, he's not going to single out any child by name.
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He said "list," but it wasn't in the context of his kids. He was being sarcastic because Wendy had said something about his many girlfriends and Jon said, "We'll list them (the girlfriends) and then rolled his eyes. Jon was funny. I liked the part where he said that Steve isn't that tall, and that it was awkward when Steve accompanied Kate to Target.
I wonder how Kate feels being thrown under the bus and publicly exposed.....possibly for the first time.
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Yes. Somebody pinch me! That was great!
Jon said they were millionaires by the fourth season. So by the seventh season they must have had quite a bundle. Kate must have negotiated a higher take for her Kate Plus 8. Even if it didn't make Jon a millionaire in the 'tens' as he said, it probably did for TFW. Add to that her income from all the other crapola she's done to supplement her bank account and there you have it.
Piecing and patching? She must be making quilts out of hundred dollar bills.
DVR'd Jon on WW and just watched the first part (they went to commercial and then they're going to talk about Jon's love life and the twins interview) so I wanted to get this down. I've got six pages of notes.
First, WW showed a clip of Liz and Jon on CT. Jon takes a picture of Liz but she stuck her finger up her nose which I thought was juvenile. Was not impressed with that. Jon says the difference between Liz and TFW is apples and oranges.
Liz, "Doesn't (TFW) like me, which is fine."
Jon, "She doesn't like anyone who comes into my life. No one."
Liz, "She gives you nothing my judgment."
Jon, "Oh yeah. I feel judged all the time.
Then WW introduces Jon. Jon comes out and he looked good. He and WW start talking. Liz was supposed to be there but she doesn't feel well so she's back home in PA. WW gives her a shout out but Jon says we don't have cable so she can't watch. Says they just moved into another house in the woods. Guess they're living together. Explains that after the show he moved to Ny, then Utah, then CA. But he always flew home for his custody time. Then he moved back to his hometown of Wyomissing. He found his original house in the woods on Craig's List. It had no address, 28 acres and was on private property.
Talked about his working in the restaurant. WW was surprised he wasn't workin in IT but he said he doesn't like cubicles and he realized that "but work is work and you gotta get stuff done but he wanted to try something different. He waited tables when he was younger before he got married and he missed it. "It was an interaction, no homework. You just do your thing."
WW asked about pulling the gun on the pap. Jon replied he asked pap to leave, pap wouldn't. He pulled the gun but the pap still wouldn't leave. The pap didn't get in the car and leave until he pulled the slide on the gun. Pap contacted police and wanted to press charges. Police informed pap if they pressed charges, they would arrest pap for trespassing.
WW asked about TFW's lawsuit. Jon replied that TFW dismissed (his word) the case. Jon said, "I guess I proved her wrong or she didn't want to go down that road." Then Jon says, "But Wendy, if I could do those things, I wouldn't be sitting here. I'd be working for the NSA."
WW asked, "How much money do you think you made off of J&K+8?" Jon replies, "Seven figures. But that's all gone now." Wendy asks if it was millions. Jon replies, "Not tens of millions. I was a millionaire probably by season four." WW asked what happened to the money and Jon replied divorce...Wendy asked about alimony and child support. Jon said no to alimony and said no child support. "That was a mutually agreed upon decision between Kate, I and the judge." He said being sued by TLC was about half a million dollars. Wendy said, "Instead of soldiering on you wanted to return to normalcy", Jon interrupted and said, "Didn't want my divorce documented for my children to watch in reruns." The audience applauded that.
Jon, "What child would want to watch the demise of their parents relationship?"
Wendy, "Who knew that this was you? You're alright..." Then Jon interrupted her and said, "Well, I wasn't allowed to talk for 2 1/2 years."
WW asks Jon if he believes TFW was having an affair with Steve. She lets the audience know that Steve is married.
Jon, "I tried to stop them...They travelled a lot together. I couldn't really do anything about it. I voiced my opinion. I thought it was awkward." Wendy asks him, "Do you think in your deepest thoughts that they've been together romantically?"
Jon, "Um, maybe. I don't know. I don't think about it anymore."
Then they went to commercial break. I'll report back after I watch the second part.
If she put it out there to make her adoring sheeple believe that she didn't watch Jon because she was asleep, then she would have to admit that she slept from the time the kids left the house (7 a.m.) until after the show (11 a.m.). That's a darn long nap! Who does that?
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Maybe she was taking her forced 4 hour nap in her crib and had to wait till 4 hours went by till she could get up. If she would of gotten up, she would face the "Penalty of Severeness".
Jon was Fabulous on WW. So funny, He's not that tall. Just the picture they showed of S and k, they looked guilty! Today is Tuesday so Jon has them night for supper so maybe kate will not be so evil when the kids get home from Jon's. Thrilled he is only 4 miles away from the compound.
Someone posted about dropping off the kids at the gate. kate is so spiteful that she refuses for Jon to have the code to open the gate so he can drive the kids down to the front door and let them out and leave. It is a waste of gas for the help to drive a vehicle up to the gate everyday to pick them up. It is too short to drive and too long to walk.
How she loves to keep every one in a Catch-22. Especially her children. Just wished WW would of asked if the kids get to see cousins, aunts, uncles, grandparents. Jon is so normal and family oriented that I believe he does as much as he can.
I bet she's livid he'll be 4 miles away. How will she explain the lack of ensuing panic when he takes the kids out regularly in their own neck of the woods? Plus the difference in the way he treats locals and she does will be glaring
capecodmama said... 85 DVR'd Jon on WW and just watched the first part (they went to commercial and then they're going to talk about Jon's love life and the twins interview) so I wanted to get this down. I've got six pages of notes.
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The video is up on the WW webpage. Jon seems just so natural, and with such a sense of humor and down-to-earthness.
Place that Jon just moved into is only four miles away from TFW and only one mile away from Liz's kids father but he and Jon get along.
Jon, "Liz and Matt have the polar opposite relationship as me and Kate."
WW asks how's your relationship with TFW now. Jon says they just text. They don't talk. Jon only knows what TFW says about him through the media.
Wendy wants to know about the tradeoff with the kids. Jon says he always picks them up at the bus stop and brings them back to his house. For the dropoff, he drops them off at the gate at his old house. (there's a murmur from the audience.)
Wendy then discusses the dueling magazine stories with regard to C&M saying they want to get back on reality TV. Wendy says she was reading in In Touch where Jon said, "Oh heck no, the kids can't stand it." (These are Wendy's words and I believe she was paraphrasing what Jon said in the article.) Jon said, "Exactly. So it's alwasy a discrepancy back and forth."
They talked about his dating back in "09 and he said it was three women but he only brought two women around the kids. With regard to TFW and the kids Jon thinks there may be "goading and ultimatums" involved.
Wendy brings up Joy's Saint Tony of DWTS and she said that Tony only had bad things to say (to Wendy) about TFW, including that she wanted to be treated like "Princess Kate' and had DWTS build the dance studio in the basement of her house because she didn't want to go practice like everyone else. The audience murmured again but Wendy said, "oh, don't worry, as soon as it was over they went and ripped it right up."
Wendy asked Jon if he would let TFW let the kids particip[ate in another reality show and he said, "No. I'd fight it." The audience applauds. Wendy, "How about if she gave you a cut of the money?" Jon, "No. I don't need the money. I'll just go to work."
Wendy asks if the kids go to public school and Jon says no, private. But they have education trusts. He said he and TFW put "8% of the gross of the income for three years into trusts for them." Audience applauds.
Wendy said she watches CT and was surprised to see Jon there. He said he wouldn't let his kids film again but he didn't say he wouldn't. She asked if he loved 'celebrity' and he said not really. She asks him if he would marry again and he says he likes the thought of marriage. Jon, "When you see cute old couples throught Central Park, I want that." He's fixed and doesn't want anymore kids. Audience applauds.
Wendy says, "it was really nice to meet you." They hug. After commercial break she says,"We all felt sorry for Jon Gosslin. We really like him."
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 11m @WendyWilliams Jon Gosselin is a lying piece of shit. @Kateplusmy8 88888888 God Himself could come down and tell Goody that Jon is a good father is a saint for all he put up with and she'd tell God that He's wrong and doesn't know what He's talking about. Some man must have really done Ms Goodie wrong in the past for her to have this much hate for someone she doesn't know (unless she's a sock for TFW and TFW uses this persona to say everything she can't).
I would not discount Steve so soon. Don't you guys think he accompanied Kate and the girls in NYC for the People shoot? I do.
If Kate and Steve did anything, they were very discreet. Remember, this guy works for a company that has private detectives to watch spouses accused of cheating. He knows all the tricks. I believe Jon has no proof, just his intuition. And yes, their traveling everywhere was inappropriate. Kate didn't give a rat's behind what Jon thought and neither did Steve for that matter. I totally understand how he felt pushed out of the family dynamics.
Someone must have counseled Jon to cool his behavior after that horrible article interview. I still disagree with him and Liz appearing on Couples Therapy.
(Leslie) Kate must be fuming about Jon saying he will fight if Kate wants to film again. If any producers had any thoughts about making a reality show of Kate and the kids, they will now have second thoughts. Producers do not want to fight the Dad of 8 kids in court. And by Jon's track record, he is not afraid to battle for his kids in court. The TLC lawsuit cost him a half million. That will stop any future producers in their tracks.
Remember within the last year, Kate went on The Today Show and other shows with the news that she and Jon were now friendly. HA! She is a freaking liar.
(Leslie) It is so telling that Kate tweets back Goody a lot of times. Kate endorses all the hate towards Jon. That is sick and so immature. It says a lot that one of Kate's fans has as much hate toward Jon as Kate does. No wonder Kate likes Goody.
I have always wondered and never got an answer that I know of here. If Jon is on talk show and gets paid for pics they show (or TFW is on and paid for pics) Does Kate get $$ for any pics they use during Jon's interview and vice versa?
I wonder if the money Jon got from CT was the reason he had the money to get the house just miles from TFW? If so as far as I'm concerned, it was worth the flack he took/is taking for doing CT.
Remember within the last year, Kate went on The Today Show and other shows with the news that she and Jon were now friendly. HA! She is a freaking liar.
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Really? I miss so much of this saga. I thought that she's always said that they are "working on it" or implies that they tolerate each other. She disclosed that they were actually friendly? When did they get "unfriendly" again?
Why does Milo read here? I think MsGoody has a major sexual attraction to Jon. What did he lie about? That he drives more than Kate? That Kate and Stever WERE having an affair? That he DID want his kids to watch the divorce play on TV?
I'd love the crazy MissGoody to tell us what Jon lied about. Shall I list Kate's lies?
Poor sheep. Wonder when they will start jumping off the cliff.
Anonymous said... 99 (Leslie) Kate must be fuming about Jon saying he will fight if Kate wants to film again. If any producers had any thoughts about making a reality show of Kate and the kids, they will now have second thoughts ******* I agree. Part of Jon's strategy to keep his kids from earning the paycheck might be to let it be known in no uncertain terms, that he will fight any attempt at getting his children signed up for a reality tv show.
I wonder how Kate slipped CWS by him, given that at some point that week, Jon should have been scheduled to see his kids.
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 11m @WendyWilliams Jon Gosselin is a lying piece of shit. @Kateplusmy8 88888888 God Himself could come down and tell Goody that Jon is a good father is a saint for all he put up with and she'd tell God that He's wrong and doesn't know what He's talking about. Some man must have really done Ms Goodie wrong in the past for her to have this much hate for someone she doesn't know (unless she's a sock for TFW and TFW uses this persona to say everything she can't).
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She has some very serious mental issues going on, and if Kate has any smarts, she won't recognize her or tweet her in any way shape or fashion. She's not someone with whom Kate should be associated, even if it's just through Twitter. Awhile back I read some of this person's screenshots that someone posted, and my jaw dropped open. I'm no prude, and it takes a lot to shock me, but that one did.
I think Kate estranges the twins from their dad so she can keep them close to do things like the People interview. Kate alienating their dad gives them less opportunity to discuss the upcoming projects Kate has up her sleeve with him. They never get a chance to tell him how they truly feel about this never ending push to regain celebrity. They're under Kate's spell for now and Mady's "ooooh" and "waaaah" remark confirmed that for me.
I'm glad WW reiterated Tony Dovolani's sentiments about his experience with Kate. The more the word about her behavior and true personality get out the less the chance of her mug appearing on TV gets. The powers that be in that industry is relatively small and word of reputations like Kate's does make the rounds.
From what I understand on the Wendy Williams interview, the kids all have nice trust funds for all of their needs/wants. Must be why their mother doesn't need to get a job. Plenty of money to draw from. How fortunate TFW invested in her own future. Those kids' trust funds could be dry as many have predicted by the time they are finished college or maybe before.
Would any producer in their right mind give TFW bunch another reality show? In that interview it sounded like JG drew the line in the sand on that issue. Also pleased to hear JG speaking like a real person and not someone afraid to utter a sound. He doesn't use pauses and unnecessary Um's. Noticeable difference. He certainly isn't crying poor mouth or talking about a "pocket full of bills". Good for him.
Loved the part of the interview when Wendy mentioned Tony D! She certainly didn't hold back in telling the truth re: DWTS. I still believe TFW was kept on that show longer not by viewer vote, but by producers. I haven't tried to vote for anyone on that show since. Still believe voting is not decided by viewers.
This is the type of interview I always hope that Jon delivers when he decides to speak. Believe it or not, I do root for the guy. In the future, I hope he does a better job vetting those that interview him. The Dad's Roundtable, Oprah's WATN, and this are how I think he likes to be portrayed. He has to know that there are some in the media that are still out to punish him (like that Philly reporter) and to steer clear of that ilk. He's no babe in the woods. He's been around the losing end of that PR game long enough to know to be cautiously selective when selecting an outlet. And not to do an interview at the local pub.
I just watched the video of Jon's interview. He IS such a pleasant guy.
And I wish more talk show hosts would interview Kate the way Wendy just did with Jon. Then again, Kate does have a list of pre-approved questions, doesn't she?
I don't know why Jon feels the need to overshare things like his vasectomy. I know he's authentic and all that but it really is TMI. He mentioned that long ago during a Utah interview I think and it was yucky then too. It made me wonder why he would have gotten that done while he was still with Kate and they had such fertility problems? I'm guessing it was at Kate's insistence.
Wendy says how she really likes Jon Gosselin. She feels sorry for him. She also says "I think that everything people say is true. I think that Kate Gosselin is probably a mean harpie and bosses him around." She also asks the crew how he was backstage, and they say "he's a really nice guy".
She also says backstage "who likes Jon Gosselin, raise your hand. I thought he was really cute".
She only talks about Jon in the first minute of the above video. I guess she really does like Jon.
Kate was on Wendy's show on 9/12/11, yet the only clip from that show is where Wendy gave her a gift of a fanny pack. Seems like Wendy does not like Kate at all. I bet some of the stuff that Tony told her about Kate has something to do with that.
Yet Kate still continues to say that everyone who meets her likes her. If you liked someone, I don't think you would call them a "mean harpie".
Sav♡ @SavGuercio 54m @MiloandJack how'd you get @Kateplusmy8 to follow you???? PLEASE tell me!! I'm a huge fan of her and would LOVE for her to follow me!
I'd like an answer to this also. Although if I recall, Kate started following Milo when she ran the SD half marathon, so that Milo could give a play-by-play of Kate's progress.
Sav♡ @SavGuercio 54m @MiloandJack how'd you get @Kateplusmy8 to follow you???? PLEASE tell me!! I'm a huge fan of her and would LOVE for her to follow me!
I'd like an answer to this also. Although if I recall, Kate started following Milo when she ran the SD half marathon, so that Milo could give a play-by-play of Kate's progress.
_________________ If that tweet to Milo doesn't swell up her head to the size of a kodiak grizzly, I don't know what will.
Wendy says how she really likes Jon Gosselin. She feels sorry for him. She also says "I think that everything people say is true. I think that Kate Gosselin is probably a mean harpie and bosses him around."
_______________ I've gone to put down the wine or get new reading glasses. I read this as "Kate Gosselin is probably a mean herpie."
Thanks to all those who gave recaps of WW today, in particular Tucker's Mom for being perhaps the first out of the gate and capecodmama with her detailed post.
I don't think knowing that a man who has 8 children has had a vasectomy. Why is this 'yucky'? It is certainly an honest comment unlike his ex and her 'good bra'. It wasn't a discussion, just a piece of information. And then we move on.
I don't know why Jon feels the need to overshare things like his vasectomy.
___________ WW led him into that. He didn't come up with it on his own. She's the one who asked him about having more children and she said, "Did you get fixed?" to which he replied, "Yeah, I'm fixed." I think she caught him off guard on that one.
It's not the olden days. We're not supposed to be ashamed of things like vasectomies anymore. Rather that's just being a responsible and unselfish parent. Did Kate make the same responsible choice and get her tubes tied? I'm guessing not, that she would have another kid in a heartbeat if she felt it would benefit her emotionally financially or fame wise.
I've gone to put down the wine or get new reading glasses. I read this as "Kate Gosselin is probably a mean herpie."
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lol! Well, she's that too.
You might need glasses and I think I need a hearing aid. I thought Jon said 'that bullshit is over' when he was asked about the lawsuit. I turned the sound up and replayed it. He said 'that lawsuit is over'.
Sherry Baby said... 125 I don't know why Jon feels the need to overshare things like his vasectomy.
___________ WW led him into that. He didn't come up with it on his own. She's the one who asked him about having more children and she said, "Did you get fixed?" to which he replied, "Yeah, I'm fixed." I think she caught him off guard on that one. ******* Hey, at least Jon didn't say "Um, no, I got a new jock strap"
I have to share this story that I saw on FB. It's about people who feel they are entitled and use the "don't you know who I am" ploy to get service. It reminded me of Kate and her sense of entitlement. Don't know if it's true or not, but you just have to love the gate agent's response to the customer. Sorry, but it is a bit long. I hope you don't mind. ==========================
"It happened at a New York Airport. This is hilarious. I wish I had the guts of this girl. An award should go to the United Airlines gate agent in New York for being smart and funny, while making her point, when confronted with a passenger who probably deserved to fly as cargo. For all of you out there who have had to deal with an irate customer, this one is for you.
A crowded United Airlines flight was canceled. A single agent was re-booking a long line of inconvenienced travelers.
Suddenly, an angry passenger pushed his way to the desk. He slapped his ticket on the counter and said, “I HAVE to be on this flight and it has to be FIRST CLASS.”
The agent replied, “I’m sorry, sir. I’ll be happy to try to help you, but I’ve got to help these folks first; and then I’m sure we’ll be able to work something out.”
The passenger was unimpressed. He asked loudly, so that the passengers behind him could hear, “DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHO I AM?”
Without hesitating, the agent smiled and grabbed her public address microphone. “May I have your attention, please?”, she began, her voice heard clearly throughout the terminal. “We have a passenger here at Gate 14 WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHO HE IS. If anyone can help him with his identity, please come to Gate 14″.
With the folks behind him in line laughing hysterically, the man glared at the United Airlines agent, gritted his teeth, and said, “F*** You!”
Without flinching, she smiled and said, “I’m sorry sir, you’ll have to get in line for that, too.”
Life isn’t about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain."
It must be so hard for the kids to 'perform' for Kate and do what she says, say what she wants, yet express opposite feelings to Jon.I wonder if it was too much for the twins to be caught in the middle so that's why they see Jon less often?
I'm glad WW reiterated Tony Dovolani's sentiments about his experience with Kate. The more the word about her behavior and true personality get out the less the chance of her mug appearing on TV gets. The powers that be in that industry is relatively small and word of reputations like Kate's does make the rounds. &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
Could this truly be the beginning of the end? In less than a week's time, Jon and TFW have had dueling magazine covers. Despite People's slanted article, mostpeople are not only able to see TFW's exploitation of her children and just mean personaility but are commenting about it. Now Jon gives a relaxed, candid interview in which he does not resort to crocodile tears about how bad he has it, etc. and displays a good sense of humor. The host bashes TFW and passes on Saint Tony's feelings about her. I think a lot of people aren't afraid of TFW anymore.
Robert, please release the book again.
I'm going to go ahead and call it now. I think Jon will be on one of the next seasons of DWTS. If he can stay grounded thru the next round of interviews and the rest of Couples Therapy, why couldn't he do it if the producers ask him again? He could work the schedule around his custody times and is young and energetic enough to withstand both the practices and frequent flights back home to see the kids. I think he could do well on his own merits without dragging the kids into it. And if it would give him and the kids a bit of a financial cushion, I say go for it!
Thanks to all those who gave recaps of WW today $$$$$$$$ Thanks from me too. I got a pedi of my very own this evening and read the article in People. Want to say that you guys did a great job summarizing it and sharing the lowlights.
However, some things need to be seen to be believed: Holy Photoshop Batman!!
Did Kate make the same responsible choice and get her tubes tied? I'm guessing not, that she would have another kid in a heartbeat if she felt it would benefit her emotionally financially or fame wise. 126
And mess with that surgically enhanced, anorexic body? I doubt it.
Kate is a twit said... 129 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hilarious, thanks for sharing. I think we've all dealt with a person who feels entitled to special treatment and this guy did get very special treatment. Bravo to this woman.
And maybe it's time for Robert to stop teasing about 'the book'. Frankly, I'm not sure it needs to be released. The kids are older, and nothing good will come of either parent being dragged through the media muck. It's all out there anyway; time to move on. What real point will this serve?
WW point blank asked him. And he said yes. What was he suppose to say? And so what if he had a vasectomy. ---------------------------------------------
I would have liked him to simply say his plate is full in that department or something like that. Him bringing up the vas. leads to headlines like Radars calling him The Sperminator. It also opens a Pandora's box of questions about why he got it when they had fertility problems. Less oversharing is better on some topics.
I guess the sheep haven't commented on the child support issue -- that the JUDGE was involved and Kate didn't, on her own, relieve him of support.
I honestly don't think that any of them are capable of understanding the legalities of it all. There are times when I do feel sorry for them...not often, but it does happen.
Lynne In RI said... 82 Lynne RI, I watched Wendy Williams only one time. That was when she had the Witch Kate Gosselin on and I vowed never to watch the show again. Well, it has been some time since she had phony Kate on. After today, I have new respect for Ms.Williams. I will check her show out again. She is funny and has lot's of talent. Channel 25 here in the great north.. I will watch again. I am now a fan. She is the very FIRST to ask the god questions. And the audience CHEERED. No fake crap here. They liked Jon. Who wouldn't? Today Show can Suck it.
Thanks to all for posting the link for the show. I was at work so didn't get to see it this morning. I thought he did a good job and came across as very likeable and most of all authentic. TFW always comes across as inauthentic with all her, ums, honestelys and truthfullys. He answered all questions put to him without having to pause and try to remember the scripted answer. I didn't think that his saying that he had a vasectomy was TMI. He was asked a question and answered that he couldn't have any more kids because he'd been fixed. Pretty responsible on his part if you ask me. I'm also glad that WW brought up DWTS and St. Tony's opinion of TFW. Finally someone who isn't afraid to tell it like it is! You go Wendy! I wish there were more like her. I'm also glad that Jon seems to understand why the twins said what they did in the People interview and knows where it's coming from. I hope the twins realize sooner rather than later what he's done for them and that he's actually acting like a parent and not their BFF. If TFW continues to act like their BFF and not their parent she deserves everything she gets as they get older and enter the PITA years.
Tucker's Mom said... 104 I know how Kate slipped it by. Kedra came there. Crew and all. The children were blindsided. That is how the wonderful Mother pulled it off.
Well, I see in the future for Jon is a lot of family court to come. Kate is desperate to get back on TV hook or crook, with or without the kids. Kate managed to slip CWS & this interview passed Jon. I do believe Kate will film a show with kids, in secret, buy the kids silents from their dad and air the show, before Jon can get to or file in court. Kate also did this with the Aussie trip. Kate is a low-life. Co-parenting will never happen, between Jon & Kate. Kate blames Jon for everything that has gone wrong, in her life, since the original show ended. Kate has never and she even admit to, not having any regrets or would never change anything. It's Kates, plan or the highway. What a fool!
"Him bringing up the vas. leads to headlines like Radars calling him The Sperminator."
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He didn't bring it up. Wendy did, and he answered her. I didn't see anything objectionable about it. They didn't dwell on it. They just moved on. ROL will grab at anything for headlines...even if he hadn't said a word about it, they would have latched on to something else and made a mountain out of the proverbial molehill.
We explained to the sheeple over and over that Kate can't just relieve him of support that only a judge can do that and it's based on a complicated equation that factors in your time with the kids, your income, and their standard of living. It fell on deaf ears. Validated once again.
It also opens a Pandora's box of questions about why he got it when they had fertility problems. Less oversharing is better on some topics. ****** They didn't have fertility problems, Kate supposedly did. Nothing wrong with Jon's little soldiers. Again, so what? He didn't dodge the question and if by chance, in the future, he feels the need to let his little soldiers march forth and multiply, he can have it reversed and give it a go.
OrangeCrusher1 said... 135 And maybe it's time for Robert to stop teasing about 'the book'. Frankly, I'm not sure it needs to be released. The kids are older, and nothing good will come of either parent being dragged through the media muck. It's all out there anyway; time to move on. What real point will this serve?
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I want it re-released just to prove it CAN be done without any copyright infringement, lawsuit, etc. That, and watching sheeple heads 'splode.
Why would it bring up questions about fertility problems? They were both very clear their fertility issues had to do with Kate's alleged medical issues. No one ever claimed Jon wasn't perfectly capable of fathering a child without help. And I really think Radar is rather juvenile with that comment, who cares? Time to grow up and stop giggling like they're in 8th grade. No one else had a problem discussing it like mature adults.
Sherry baby: the WW interview, the articles are starting to appear, and the comments are 50-50, mostly about his not paying CS. Most of the negative comments are from Kate lovers(probably the same ones who always comment), they really did not listen to what Jon said, cause most got it wrong.
Well, I see in the future for Jon is a lot of family court to come. Kate is desperate to get back on TV hook or crook, with or without the kids. Kate managed to slip CWS & this interview passed Jon. I do believe Kate will film a show with kids, in secret, buy the kids silents from their dad and air the show, before Jon can get to or file in court. Kate also did this with the Aussie trip.
_______________ I don't think that's what happened. They were in court BEFORE the trip to Australia. Jon tried to prevent the trip, but from what I understand, the judge ruled against him because she and the kids had a contract to fulfill. She didn't slip it by him. He knew about it before it happened and tried to stop it.
I'm not so sure that there will be lots of family court in his future. Before it gets to that point, she has to be offered a show. It certainly doesn't look like that's going to happen, as much as she wants it to.
It made me wonder why he would have gotten that done while he was still with Kate and they had such fertility problems? I'm guessing it was at Kate's insistence/
Him bringing up the vas. leads to headlines like Radars calling him The Sperminator. It also opens a Pandora's box of questions about why he got it when they had fertility problems.
Jon didn't bring it up, he answered a direct question from Wendy. There really wasn't much else he could do. He didn't elaborate and there was no big discussion about it. Leave it up to RadarOnline to trash up a parent making a responsible decision to not have more children. After having 8 children, whether they had fertility issues or not, what difference would it make? He had 8 healthy children and didn't want more.
I find it a tad unfair to say Jon's admitting to a vasectomy when WW brought it up (what the hell else was he going to say??) is TMI, when Kate has been using her PCOS(ish) as narrative for her story ever since their first special, "Surviving Sextuplets and Twins", ages ago. Kate's fertility has been her source of pity, attention, motivation, justification and validation for just about everything you see today.
If Jon is on talk show and gets paid for pics they show (or TFW is on and paid for pics) Does Kate get $$ for any pics they use during Jon's interview and vice versa?
Most photos shown on talk shows come from either the tv network they were on or from a photo agency, If the network or agency asks for usage fees, then they would receive the money, not Jon or Kate. I'd imagine that IF Jon or Kate ever gave any talk show any photos they personally took and asked to be paid for their use, that they would keep the money for themselves - same as their appearance fee, if they were paid for doing the show.
Did Jon say Kate picks them up at the end of his driveway or does Jon drop them off at the end of Kate's driveway?
Jon has said even at the beginning of the divorce, that he does all the driving. He picks the kids up at the bus stop and returns them to the end of TFW's driveway. TFW has always maintained the attitude that if he wants to see his kids that he'll have to make all the effort to see them. I mean, heaven forbid she'd work with him (there's that co-parent word that she doesn't have in her vocabulary) and meet him half way - literally and figuratively.
(Leslie) Radar has a story that was printed a few months ago in Nov. saying that Jon shopped around for a girlfriend to film VH1 Couples Therapy. And that he contacted Hailey and wanted to film with her instead of Liz because it would bring him more press. And that Hailey could earn $200,000 if she chose to do so.
This is pure bullshit. Where do they come up with this garbage. I mean they can print anything they want to. I wish Jon would sue them and make them provide proof. I doubt they have it. I don't believe for a minute that he contacted crazy Hailey to film with her. And remember Hailey was the one who was suppose to have the goods on him in the lawsuit. The goods meaning the fake texts about Jon taking Kate down. This story makes zero sense. It makes me so mad, no surprise that Radar is owned by the National Enquirer.
YES!! Wendy Williams is the first journalist out there to ask the real questions! And Jon answered them respectfully. He didnt have to throw Kate under the bus, because she does that quite well herself.
I will have to go back and rewatch, but if I recall, Wendy did try to hardball with kate but she did the same evasive tactics she usually does. I am going to go back and try to find it!
Jon said that he and Kate put 80% away in trusts for the kids. Guess she can't touch that or he would have said so.
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Not necessarily. Kate could touch the money if she's the administrator and if she's following the terms of the trust. If the terms say, for example, that the monies can be used for their education, then she'd probably be using it, but if the terms say specifically only for a college education, then she'd be violating the terms if she dipped into the funds early. IF she's the sole administrator of the trusts and IF the trusts are revokable, then she could change the terms, have them rewritten, or even closed - it all depends on info we don't know. We don't know how many trusts the kids have, who is named administrator of all of them or what the terms are.
Wendy asked Jon if he would have any more kids, and I think Jon tried to shrug it off, and he might have been about to say something and she said " Did you get snipped" and he kind of looked shyly, and said ' ya, I'm snipped".
The link to the video is up thread. Watch it, it puts everything in perspective!!
Jon said he hasnt been able to talk for 2.5 years. TFW's gag orders and whatever no talk orders TLC had in place protected Kate. But now as those gag orders are being lifted, I think we will see a whole 'nother side of the story!
@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 Well, if a man decides 2sleep around, drink & lead a promiscuous life...a vasectomy is a good idea! #LookinAtTheBrightSideOfIt
WTH, how is admitting to a vasectomy gross? She asked if he'd been fixed he said yes. It's not like he whipped out his scrotum to show the scars. I am always amazed at what some people get upset or "ew" about. Is it TMI is someone states they had mastectomy because they run a high risk for breast cancer? How about having a tubal ligation, hysterectomy, testicle removed for cancer? Was TFMJG showing her jowls of the dog or bouncing around in her invisible good bra okay? Not trying to be argumentative, I sincerely don't understand why that's "icky". Loved the interview and how he qualified he's ordinary not "normal" as really normal is different to everyone. And he busted TFW with his admission of having earned into the 7 figures. I'm sure she's working through those children's trust though. The only thing she's piecing and patching is her lies. I'm sure she'd love a few more millions to keep trying to become like that cat lady with all the plastic work. Jon looked so natural and good. How ironic the one without all the work done on them looks good but the nipped and tucked ex looks like a Dollar Store Barbie knock off. Good on Jon for being his own person. Kate is never going to find her perfect Policeman Ken doll, so she's got to tell the kids how horrid it was that daddy dated. Yep, Wendy, she is a harpy.
Meagler - I might be wrong but I don't think Kate was on her show during the book tour. She was on it in 2011 when Kate Plus 8 was coming to an end. WW gave her a huge fanny pack. Kate tried to feign a happy, happy look, but you just know she was disappointed that her 'surprise' gift was a gag joke. Poor thing.
Milo is the kind of friend that Kate needs.....somebody that always sucks up to her and never tells her the truth....because Kate can't handle the truth.....it conflicts with her version of reality..... i think i would pay money to find out if "Milo" really exists....or if it is just Kate behind a screen name.
@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 Well, if a man decides 2sleep around, drink & lead a promiscuous life...a vasectomy is a good idea! #LookinAtTheBrightSideOfIt
Oh, but read her follow-up tweet. She wasn't talking about Jon. She didn't mention his name.
I just can't find it believable that Jon would refuse or push back against direct contact with Kate, in order to better communicate about the kids. I know I'm biased, but I truly think it's all Kate when it comes to this stilted method of handing off the kids and lack of co-parenting.
I absolutely agree. I think Jon's always expressed a willingness and even a desire to work with TFW in co-parenting the kids but she refuses. I think she bears sole responsibility for them not communicating. I remember her refusing to communicate any other way than via text during the Ellen days. I gave her the benefit of the doubt that 'co-parenting' was relatively new to her back then and she just needed time to adjust, but there's no rational reason for her to still be acting this way.
Anonymous said... 156 (Leslie) ''Radar has a story that was printed a few months ago in Nov. saying that Jon shopped around for a girlfriend to film VH1 Couples Therapy. And that he contacted Hailey and wanted to film with her instead of Liz because it would bring him more press. And that Hailey could earn $200,000 if she chose to do so.'' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Did Radar also post the response of the therapist on Couples Therapy that said that was a big fat lie?
PatK said... 145 I want it re-released just to prove it CAN be done without any copyright infringement, lawsuit, etc. That, and watching sheeple heads 'splode. ---------------------- I think Robert made it clear on his blog Q&A that he does not have the money to defend the book against future lawsuits. Kate has shut him down just by forcing him to spend so much defending himself on this past years' lawsuit. And she can bring a lawsuit if the book gets released, which he would have to once again defend himself against. That doesn't mean she would win, just that she has the money to sue and he does not have the money to defend himsefl.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 172 " Did you get snipped" and he kind of looked shyly, and said ' ya, I'm snipped". ------------------ ''I thought he said "fixed." Did I hear it wrong?'' ~~~~~~~~~~ Wendy asked him if he got fixed, and he said yes I'm fixed. You heard it correctly.
Yes, he positively said 4 miles. And he said it's in the woods, the same as the original house which he still has.
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I think that might have been a misunderstanding. He said, "I have a house in the woods. Now I have another house in the woods," It's a tense shift from "have," meaning, (here I have) a house in the woods, and now another house in the woods. She mentioned him having two houses, and he didn't confirm it, but said that PA is woods,
ugh...it was the Bethany talk show I was thinking of, and she did an awful job of interviewing Kate. I think bethany thot she was asking the hard questions, but she couldnt stop her self from interjecting her own answers there fore giving Kate a bunch of outs.
Interesting to note... Kate said on the Bethany interview " I personally deposited most of our income from the show into trust funds for the kids" ( so they could go to school, etc). " Personally" meant she was the one who took the money to the bank and wrote out the deposit. Note how he words it to make it sound like she was the only one interested in making sure this was done.
Today Jon says something like... " yes, we put 80% from the first 3 years into trust funds /education funds for the kids."
Kate = "I"
Jon = "we"
Yep, Kate's true colors have been shined again.... lol....this is good the beginning of the end!
Also, on Nov 4, kate posted " her response" on her blog, to Jons comment about the development of the children. If I was a betting person, I would bet that Kate also called up her fiend Katie at People and asked for a story. If TFW mug made them money earlier in the year, and Kate is willing to put her teens on the front page saying things about their mom and their dad, people knew that would sell.
Ha! The timing of the Wendy Williams show was awesome opportunity for Jon right after the People's cover.
I wonder how many days before TFW is farting rainbows again?
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I thought Jon did a good job with the interview. Appears quite likeable, even.
I only wish they would both stop this tit for tat. Jon should know this just stirs up more crap at home for his kids. Why is it so important that he show the world he's an 'ordinary' dad? Aren't all parents ordinary?
I feel badly for the kids. There's no need for these two idiot parent to continue their bickering on tv. Jon said he didn't want his divorce to play out on reruns but what he is doing IS going to play out on reruns.
Jon, as likeable as you seem, it's NOT ordinary to go on trash talk shows to talk about your exwife. You're supposed to be the better parent!
Sleepless In Seattle said... 175 ''I think that might have been a misunderstanding. He said, "I have a house in the woods. Now I have another house in the woods," It's a tense shift from "have," meaning, (here I have) a house in the woods, and now another house in the woods. She mentioned him having two houses, and he didn't confirm it, but said that PA is woods'' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Like some others, when I watched the interview, I thought he now has two houses. However, I just watched the entire interview again, and I now believe you are correct....that the house he now has that is four miles from TFW is also in the woods. He laughingly asked WW if she'd driven the turnpike, and when she said yes, he said everything is woods, so the new house would be in the woods.
I still believe that he was able to get the house closer to his children due to the money he got for being on CT, and if so, I think that is worth it to him...no matter how much flack he gets for being on the show.
I've seen and heard enough from both of them to have a fair idea of who has truly tried to co-parent and who has not.
I think the revelation that Kate has never liked anyone he is with says it all. Really, not ONE of his friends she liked? Yet the kids seemed to love Ellen. The twins talked about Ellen fondly when they were in Baltimore, and there is a sweet pic of Collin with Ellen. And if they were really bad women, Kate could have easily gotten an order they are not to be around the children. These orders are as common as apple pie.
Point is, it's not the women themselves she doesn't like. It's Jon being happy that pisses her off. She wants to punish him forever, and that is sick. Much like the parental alienation is more about hurting him for the sake of hurting him because she resents what went down when he left the show, not because she honestly believes that the kids are unsafe with him or don't love him to pieces. She is a very ill woman who needs help.
I also think it is very nice that Liz gets along just fine with her ex. That says a lot about Liz. Not everyone has to have such drama with their ex. Some time ago when Kate claimed that she asked that the pit bull not be around the kids, Liz stood up to Kate and said look I have no idea what you're talking about since the only time I ever tried to have a peaceful adult conversation with you, you rolled up the window in my face. That says it all. Liz TRIED to be nice, and Kate gave her the cold shoulder. Liz and Jon have TRIED to reason with her, and she behaves like a vindictive baby.
If anyone read Amanda Knox's book, she talks a lot about how well her parents co-parented even though they both were divorced and remarried. She was also close with both stepparents. Her stepdad moved to Italy full time during her case so her mom could be in the US with her siblings.
In any case she said she never felt particularly upset by their split and got along well with both. And guess what, her dad lived in the same neighborhood, so she would just pop over there whenever. I think that certainly played a huge role. Her story of prison was moving but I found what she had to say about being from a functional divorced family to be just as important. And what greater test of that than what she went through. ????????????????????
Bad example. She's been charged with murder! Also, many people think she's 'off'.
Yes, It was fixed. I was thinking fixed but said snipped...ugh.. I do that all the time, Sorry :S
I rewatched it... Wendy says" Okay you're on the fence about about marriage, what about more kids" Jon " No... we cant have more kids" and Wendy says " are you fixed?', Jon says , lower toned I might add, " ya, I'm fixed". Wendy says' Thats good!"
Okay moving on now...
Another thing I caught the second time is when they were talking aout Steve, and wendy said the height doesnt matter its all the same even when your lying down ( or something to that effect) and Jon says something while leaning back like he's lying down and being a paparazzi like this. I wonder if he was insinuating that Steve was kate's other papparazzi??? ( we all know Chris was the other)....
Bad example. She's been charged with murder! Also, many people think she's 'off'.
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She was acquitted of murder, and is about to win her appeal. It's over, she's innocent, she's home.
What does being charged with anything have to do with anything? The point being, her parents, before and after the bogus charges and four year long witch hunt (when they CAUGHT the actual murderer and he confirmed Amanda was not there), always did a great job co-parenting. They did before, they did during, and they did after. And she loves them for it and recognized them for it in her book.
Most pet stores have a bird or 2 in large cages, away from rest to show the bird, which is outside of cage to show how tame the bird is. ( Not sure what pet stores you visit but PetLand and PetSmart have an open area with about 15 cockatiels quite near the entrance. Beside it are open areas for rabbits and gerbils. The parrots, out of their cages, are directly beside those areas.
I only wish they would both stop this tit for tat.
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Even though he did well with this interview I have to say I agree with you Greedy, it definitely really does feel like tit for tat right now. Tit for tat over and over again.
The problem is, Jon's tried everything and she just gets worse. I get the sense he's feeling like well for a normal person being silent would help calm the other parent down but for Kate she just gets worse when I'm silent so what's the point, might as well engage with her. It's not unlike here. Sometimes we see posts we'd really love to respond to but we refrain and just let it go scroll on by. And sometimes we're up to it and feel like engaging. I think he's in a "I feel like engaging" mood right now. He is engaging with her and seeing where it leads. Whether that's the right thing to do, who knows, but then I've never divorced a parental alienator.
I was thinking the long driveway might not be a long physical walk, but it sure is a long emotional walk for the kids. I think that is cruel to do to your children. With every step they are reminded of how much their parents hate each other.
Not every kid wants their parents to get back together but I'm guessing almost all kids want their parents to at least be civil.
" I have a house in the woods, and now I have another house in the woods" ...who knows why he has 2 houses. Maybe they decided to live together after Couples Therapy and the lease on the first house on the woods isnt up....
There is one question I wished Wendy would have asked him.... "Jon IYO has Kate's body , asides from her tummy tuck...been surgically enhanced????"
and yes, sadly , like Kate, I like ???...!!! and ......... ha ha
Enablers like her are the last thing Kate needs! She needs people that will level with her and be honest with her. But whether Kate WANTS that is another matter. Clearly she is only interested in someone like Milo who will treat her like the princess she fancies herself to be and encourage the fantasy world she lives in.
I always liked what Prince William said about his Kate, he said he was tired of people always telling him how wonderful he was. He wanted someone who would challenge him, call him out, not be so fake around him. He found that in Kate and it's one reason he fell so in love with her.
I see a good friendship as like that passage that talks about how a man needs other men to sharpen him like iron sharpens iron. I always liked the sharpen analogy. I want friends who are supportive to some extent, but not to the point of delusion--I also want friends who will sharpen me even if the sharpening process might be a bit uncomfortable. Milo makes Kate the dull pencil that she is, she would never dare try to sharpen her. But at the end of the day, a dull pencil won't write and doesn't a good friend want you to write?
xxxyyyzzz @Kateplusmy8 @wendywilliams K8, Wendy said outright that Tony D said you are a mentally ill bitch. What do U say 2 that? U suck
What? Wendy said that? These darn speakers...all I could hear was Wendy saying that Tony said bad things about Kate and that she wanted to be treated like a princess. Did Wendy say that in the after-the-show segment?
Thanks, Carole said... 153 I remember reading in places that people don't get paid for their interviews, only for pictures so that is why I wondered about it since I saw on some of their interviews that there were pics of the spouse shown also.
Whether that's the right thing to do, who knows, but then I've never divorced a parental alienator. ________________________________
It's not the right thing to do! My son would die of embarrassment if his father and I played the trashy talk show circuit arguing with one another. It's ridiculous for them both to continue to bait each other in the media, for FOUR years now.
I guess I expected more from Jon. He certainly seems like a nice man.
I am glad Jon did this interview solo without Liz. This is his rodeo and he was able to speak without any distractions.
He is very charming and has often said how much he loves his mother and grandmother. He seems to be family oriented. I really wish him the best and hope that his better qualities rub off on the children.
Jon said he and TFW put "8% of the gross of the income of the show for three years into trusts for them." He didn't say 80%. Because I DVR'd the show, I listened to that statement a couple of times to make sure I got it right. I'm sorry but that's not a lot of money considering if it wasn't for those kids there would be no show.
Even though Liz was supposed to be on the show I'm glad she wasn't. We wouldn't have gotten the same interview with her there as I think most of the interview would have been about Jon and Liz's relationship; Jon, Liz and TFW's relationship and CT. With only Jon there, the interview was focused pretty much entirely on him and TFW and very little with regard to Liz and CT. He gave a great interview and he's so much more articulate than TFW. Remember how she was alway correcting his grammer in their couch interviews? He certainly showed her up.
My take on Jon's interview with WW wasn't so much tit for tat, but more of a quiet acceptance that TFW will never move off her position of controlling their divorce the way she did their marriage. He knows her hatred toward him is hurting the children, but he seems resigned to her behaviour, yet determined to continue protecting them.
Can you imagine them being left outside the gate knowing their mother hates their father so much he cannot step on to the property. I agree with Admin, that would be an emotional walk to the front door. Surely, one of them has have to have asked her, "why can't daddy come through the gate"? What would her answer be, "cause daddy took you off television" The obvious reply would be, "but you got us back on, so why can't daddy come past the gate"?
Milo makes Kate the dull pencil that she is, she would never dare try to sharpen her. But at the end of the day, a dull pencil won't write and doesn't a good friend want you to write?
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Yes, and in a weird kind of passive-aggressive way, her platitudes and "words of wisdom" and encouragement always make it seem like Kate is down on her luck but she will rise above it. If Kate is such a strong person who is loved by everyone and is the perfect mother with eight adoring kids who think that the sun rises and sets on her, then why does Milo keep reminding her that there are better days ahead? It makes no sense.
Milo is the worst "friend" possible to Kate. They are two peas in a pod. Both egotistical, ME ME ME people who feed off each other. That is NOT what Kate needs.
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...She probably recorded it..
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And watched it from the closet.
I believe Jon said, EIGHTY - 80% went into trust and I think that's what he's said in the past. Someone can doublecheck that.
TLC stinks said... 182
Perhaps getting a home closer, and hopefully bigger, will allow him more time with ALL the kids.
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One of the things that I read (I think linked from here) about divorce "rules" is that the parents should live near each other.
I think it's great that Jon's bought a house 4 miles away. I, too, hope that this allows him more time with the kids.
Heavens knows that Jon will never be invited or allowed into the compound any time soon, if ever.
Apart from watching Jon from her bed, it's annoying that she must be doing her piecing & patching from under the covers too. She has no idea what some people do to earn minimum wage.She claims she's busy from dawn to dark, then sends tweets like these? Give me a break!
Wonder what backlash the twins got at school re: People, if any. Curious!
Nice to able to comment that you went back to bed this morning. How many of her working mom sheeple get to do that? And why even put it out there? I, for one, am pleased that JG has found a house closet to his children, and pleased that he can speak normally and easily to an interviewer. Probably not a bad thing that Liz did not appear, but definitely a good thing to make it known that both he and Liz get along with her ex.
TFW must be seething back in bed. Nobody except Kate Coyne wants to put her out there, she fails miserably when she does speak, and her latest flop crapbook took her where - NJ and suburban Canada, for a week at best. And while she may have aspirations for the daughters to keep HER in public view, it is quite true that they did not come across as anything amazing, more like the indulged and entitled teens that they probably are. In other words, somewhat normal kids, kids with baggage. They are not the next Kendall & Kylie Jenner, sorry Kate, plus you yourself do not come close to the evil talents and connections of Kris Jenner. So enjoy that going back to bed thing while it lasts.
she put the kids on TV behind his back, and Kate will continue to do that, and possibly get away with it. It sounds like Jon will be going to a lot of family court in the future. So the bird & 1d tickets were a bribe to do People.
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What did he say that would confirm that he's going back to court? What reason did he give that he's going to spend time there?
So he definitely said that the bird and the magazine cover were bribes?
I missed the show. Admin, you need to put reminders here because there are so many of us who go back to bed after the kids go to school and we miss morning television!
I really like that Jon had a vasectomy. Man, that seems too TMI and frankly, none of my business, BUT... with 8 kids, how much more thinly can your spread yourself? Plus, there's a good chance the next woman you're with has kids, as Liz does (3).
It's hard for kids to adjust to the "ours", let alone the "yours" and "mine".
Smart move, imo.
JR said... 188
Kate said she went back to bed this morning..... WHAT AN EFFING LIAR....she doesn't want anyone to think she saw Jon on the WW show. Shes too obvious....She probably recorded it... Ha
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She could have watched it while she was in bed. She didn't tweet that she went to sleep! If she tuned in, I wonder how many coffee mugs she broke while throwing them at the television! I can just picture that...
Carole: Yeah, must be nice. Kate sure sleeps a lot. She goes to bed about 9pm, gets up at 5:45am, 8+ hours, I'm luck if I get 5 hours of sleep. And Yet, Kate complains of being tired, no energy, she needs a vacation. Her idiot fans, say it's cause she runs after kids, well here's a flash for her fans: Kates kids are 9 & 13, they are away from house in school for close to 10 hours, 5 days a week, when school is in session. Kate, does not work any job, and has hired help for 20 hours a week , and does no housework cause kids do it after school. So what does Kate do all day? Sleep part of it, probably soak in tub, of wait, did Kate not tweet, recently that, she baths when kids are home. Oh, I guess, cooking. BS!
Oh yeah, she sure paints quite a picture. How many people have kids, all of them mind you, with smiles on their faces early in the a.m. trudging off to school? I think she was not even awake this a.m. and the not-a-nanny took them. And yes, she wants the world to think she did not watch Jon on WW.
Doesn't the day begin when you get up? Why go back to bed? You just have to get up again and it's hard enough to do the first time.
Blowing In The Wind said... 194
Oh, good. Now Kate only needs to grift for a Delorean and a flux capacitor.
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I was thinking more along the lines of an Edsel, or if she's really desperate, an AMC Gremlin.
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I was thinking "Back To The Future", lol.
She's going to need that technology for her "upcoming" event in 2012!
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I thought by law they had to put 15% away for the kids. I know it wasn't like that in the beginning but in the end it was. So I too am confused by the 8%. Does anybody think he could have said 80%. It wasn't clear to me.
Anyway, regardless of how much money is in a trust or what percentage was put aside for them, the bottom line is they live in a great house, great education, etc. . And I do believe there will be enough money to see them through college. And again, all that money that has been and will be in the future to support the kids came from THEIR filming. They had 2 reality shows with their names in the title. They had 4 books and three of them were 100% about them. They were the draw of the show & books. And the kids belong to Jon just as much they belong to Kate. So therefore, the kids have been and will be supporting themselves. Kate is NOT supporting them. And the kids are not supporting Jon either. That is why I firmly believe the judge let Jon stop paying child support. Because the judge had physical proof (bank statements) that there is plenty, plenty money to raise 8 kids through college. And Jon had already paid a large sum in support earlier by those $22,000 a month payments. Otherwise I don't think the judge would let a father 100% off the hook for child support. And of course Jon is paying for their support when they visit him but the major bills are paid from their filming. Kate is just writing the checks. But the money is the kids.
I want to thank those of you who watched the WW show and gave a recap, because I missed it! Arrggh!! Hopefully, it will be available online at some point.
I'm willing to bet Kate will not let this go without getting her face on tv for some kind of rebuttal.
It is rather odd that she doesn't tweet for two days and then decides to throw in a random "don't forget I exist" tweet right after Jon's WW appearance.
She's fooling no one.
The Empress Has New Clothes said... 145
But the infighting here is increasing, it seems, perhaps because we're suffocating under the weight of these realizations.
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Hi Empress - I don't see that infighting has really been increasing and I, for one, don't feel suffocated. There are too many other interesting topics going on that prevent me from feeling like I need to get out from under. But everyone views things differently.
Every once in a while, a hot-button topic will arise, but everything usually gets sorted out with civility (sheeple invasions notwithstanding). The main type of problem I see as contributing to exasperation is when someone continuously drags every single topic back to actions from the distant past that no longer seem relevant (e.g., all roads leading back to Jon's "string" of young babes in 2009). That constant drum beating after making the initial point is really the only type of post that irritates me after a while.
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TLC Stinks said ... 162
Not surprised Jon thinks she bribes the kids. Pretty obvious.
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Yes. Robert said in his book that it was standard operating procedure during filming to bribe the kids to get them to do what was needed. I have no doubt that TFW always did and continues to use bribery extensively to get the kids to do/say what she wants.
Kate made the right choice getting rid of this immature,cry baby looser. John Gosslin's girl friend looks like a "full throttle saloon" patron. Kate has class and her choice of a new husband put her further in an upper class society. I turned you off Wendy when you had the pig on your show. Kate is a hard working, beautiful women and a good mother. SHAME ON YOU. I NEVER THOUGHT YOU WOULD STOOP SO LOW AND TO GIVE THIS 'HARD ON THE EYES" LOOSER. SEXUALLY? UGH! KUDO'S FOR KATE.for vomiting this looser out of her life
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It sounds like the New Sheriff In Town!
Glad to know that Kate's new husband isn't a LOOSER! Nothing worse than not being fastened together tightly!
She has always slept a lot. On the show she was not up when Jon left for work so I always wondered if the crew were watching the kids until she rolled out of bed and got some makeup for the show (it was daylight) when she'd appear in their bedroom, confined to their cribs with soiled diapers.
Didn't I read somewhere that at the big house she used to lock the kids in their bedrooms at night?
Locallyocal......I am pretty sure Jon said the new house is in addition to the one in the woods. I didn't realize he was renting that one. I also thought he said 80 % of the first 3 years of the show went into trust funds for the kids. I guess 10% each. But he did say the first 3 years of the show, so who knows how the cut happened when they were making the big bucks.
What a difference it makes when a journalist (Wendi, you've earned that title) is willing to go against the tide and give the other side a fair forum to tell their side. Jon seems to do his best when he feels respected and safe.
Laughing at the Kate's dating show comments above, gone for 90 days. That was MY post I think on People. It was supposed to be sarcasm, directed at Kate's fans, who think it would be great to have a dating show and not harmful to kids to be gone for an extended period. Someone else had made a comment about Kate having a "7 figure deal" w/ Oprah for a talk show. I'm a usual poster here but for this I'll use anon.
This teen (she tweets about high school) is funny; her opinion seems to change as she watches the show:
@xxxxx: JON GOSSELIN IS ON WENDY WILLIAMS RIGHT NOW. OH GOD
@xxxxx: Jon Gosselin is actually really normal. and has really good morals omg. he got sued by tlc because he didn't want his divorce on TV. #good
@xxxxx: everyone thought Jon was crazy. but he just doesn't want his poor kids on TV. blah this is making me happy.
TLC stinks said... 11
Oh yeah, she sure paints quite a picture. How many people have kids, all of them mind you, with smiles on their faces early in the a.m. trudging off to school?
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Do the teens portrayed in that People article seem like the type to get up sunnily and smile their way off to school? NOPE
She never went back to bed...She hasn't tweeted for days...all of a sudden, right after Jons appearance she surfaces to state she was in bed this morning...we know she watched it. He made her sound like a total ass. Shes fooling no one...Yeah right Kate..you slept through it O.K....why does she even bother tweeting? No one bought that....except Milo of course.
Wonder what backlash the twins got at school re: People, if any. Curious!
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I was wondering about that, too. Jon said they get all the magazines in school, they read about everything.
So what does Kate do? Puts their faces on People with that snide grin of hers right in the middle. No one can tell me this wasn't a planned effort to show him who's in charge. Ugh. She's so vindictive.
Blowing in the wind: Jon did not say that in the interview. You need to watch the interview. Jon said he would stop the kids from being on TV again. He said how he had to go to family court to stop the show. Which means, any time Kate wants to put kids on TV, Jon will have to go to court to stop that, that is if he knows about it. CWS, Jon did not know about it till after it was filmed. Kate must do one hell of a bribing to get the kids to remain silent, about things she does. Jon talked about the fact, he thinks/knows the kids are being bribe by Kate. The bird & 1D tickets were around the time of the People interview, with twins. And It looks as if Jon, did not know of the interview.
I said Jon will be going back to court in the future to keep the kids off TV, or anything else.
Sorry for all the tweets but they are cracking me up. I only copy the ones that don't look like bots or socks.
@DirtyThirty83: Dear Jon Gosselin: you are the ultimate parent! YOU WIN!
I do have to wonder if Liz is really sick or if she didn't want to come on. Did he say they are still together?
If anyone read Amanda Knox's book, she talks a lot about how well her parents co-parented even though they both were divorced and remarried. She was also close with both stepparents. Her stepdad moved to Italy full time during her case so her mom could be in the US with her siblings.
In any case she said she never felt particularly upset by their split and got along well with both. And guess what, her dad lived in the same neighborhood, so she would just pop over there whenever. I think that certainly played a huge role. Her story of prison was moving but I found what she had to say about being from a functional divorced family to be just as important. And what greater test of that than what she went through.
Interesting that TFW should say that the twins had their 'first' magazine cover.
Ummm...wasn't she on it with them? Doesn't really make it *their* first magazine cover then. They've been on covers before, along with their siblings and their mother.
If was *their* first mag cover, I would expect it just to be the two girls. Not the two girls and their mother (trying to act like it's 3 besties).
But we all know TFW can't allow that. She's just gotta get her face in there, too.
Kate is a hard working, beautiful women
When did TFW get two heads?
Blowing in the wind: That's cause, her new husband(really?) is GROW A HUSBAND! LOL Another sheeple, with facts not straight. And they are HER fans. LOL
She states on her blog: "We found him “by accident” sometime back in October. Cara, Mady, Collin and I were at the pet store picking up some water conditioner for our beta fish, Fizzy and Finn. "
If she really got him for C and M to do People, I feel sorrier for the bird than ever. That means she will just grow to resent the work and mess. Well, the mess; she won't do any of the work.
Carole: Yeah, must be nice. Kate sure sleeps a lot. She goes to bed about 9pm, gets up at 5:45am,
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I don't think that she goes to bed that early anymore. She's often up tweeting at 11 p.m.
TrustMoney said... 3
I believe Jon said, EIGHTY - 80% went into trust and I think that's what he's said in the past. Someone can doublecheck that.
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I went back an listened to the interview again, and yes, Jon said 80%. I believe he also gave that figure when he appeared on the View.
I felt the interview was good. Wendy even asked Jon if he thought Kate and Steve had an affair. Jon said that they travelled a lot together and he though it was inappropriate. When she pressed and asked him again if deep down did he think they were an item, all Jon said was "Uh, maybe. I don't know. I don't think about it any more".
After Jon's interview, they had the Ask Wendy segment, and as they cut in from commercial, Wendy had apparently been talking to a member of the audience about Jon. Wendy said "We all feel sorry for Jon Gosselin. We really like him", and the whole audience broke into applause".
Kate is a hard working, beautiful women
When did TFW get two heads?
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I think the sheeple is referring to her MPD. She really doesn't know who she is at any given time.
Localyocal: Kates & kids found this bird by accident? Really, LOL, Most pet stores have a bird or 2 in large cages, away from rest to show the bird, which is outside of cage to show how tame the bird is. If Kate had been going to pet stores for years, she would have seen various birds, there on display. Why don't we try Kate as, you took kids to Pet store to get supplies and your kids begged you to get them a bird, which you said at time no. Then People or Kate Coyne called you and wanted to do a interview with your girls, knowing Jon would probably say no, you bribe the kids with bird to remain silent, if Dad asks you what your mother is up to. She is so transparent!
So while Kate lounges in her royal bed, does Shoka just wander the perimeters? Sit in his doghouse? Does Zorro's birdcage get covered up again so he won't disturb the sleeping beauty?
Her kingdom, her rules I suppose?
Blowing in the wind: Jon did not say that in the interview. You need to watch the interview.
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You said, "So the bird & 1d tickets were a bribe to do People."
This sounded like a fact, which is why I asked if Jon came out and said it in the interview. Just because it was around the same time doesn't mean that this was a bribe. Quite possibly, yes, but I thought that perhaps he discussed this on the show. We really don't know.
Thank you everyone who watched the Wendy Williams show and posted details. good for Wendy for pointing out how great Saint Tony Dovolani of the Ballroom is! TFMJG wasted completely the golden opportunity to learn a skill from a gifted teacher.
I felt the interview was good. Wendy even asked Jon if he thought Kate and Steve had an affair. Jon said that they travelled a lot together and he though it was inappropriate. When she pressed and asked him again if deep down did he think they were an item, all Jon said was "Uh, maybe. I don't know. I don't think about it any more".
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This scores big points with me.
It's in the past. If, if Kate and Steve have more than a professional relationship, it seems to have been in the past.
Affairs are like that. They can burn hot and flame out.
I think Jon's approach that hey, it's in the past and I've moved on, let's all move on, is a good one.
Kate would never have that kind of grace.
Or sanity.
Think about it. Think about how much sympathy Jon could get from playing that card. But, he never has.
Kate, and now the kids, are living in the past.
She never went back to bed...She hasn't tweeted for days...all of a sudden, right after Jons appearance she surfaces to state she was in bed this morning...we know she watched it. He made her sound like a total ass. Shes fooling no one...Yeah right Kate..you slept through it O.K..
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She was on Twitter yesterday. Isn't it possible she went back to bed but didn't go to sleep? Just made herself a cup of coffee, napped a bit (maybe) and then turned on the television when the show was on at 10 a.m.?
If she put it out there to make her adoring sheeple believe that she didn't watch Jon because she was asleep, then she would have to admit that she slept from the time the kids left the house (7 a.m.) until after the show (11 a.m.). That's a darn long nap! Who does that?
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 2h
2day I'm xtra grateful 4 the smallest things: 8 early am smiles&hugs,hot coffee on a rainyday, &a quick return 2bed b4 the day begins agn!
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I really get the feeling that Kate's "20 hours a week" helper takes the kids to the school bus in the morning.
You don't get up, dress, drive in the bracing chill and peel those clothes off to jump back into bed unless you are really a hurting unit.
(Leslie)
Not mentioned was Jon said he has to do most (if not all) the driving to get the kids. He picks them up at the school bus and then lets them off at the end of the driveway. Did Jon say Kate picks them up at the end of his driveway or does Jon drop them off at the end of Kate's driveway? I can't remember exactly what he said about that. It is sad that the kids can't be dropped off at her doorway. How petty of her!
So Kate has a new husband lol maybe Milo popped the question and Kate said yes.
I would expect it just to be the two girls. Not the two girls and their mother (trying to act like it's 3 besties).
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No one can out shine mom don't ya'know.
Sounds like MsGoody made that comment in the blog section of WW. Fixated on Jon, isn't she?
Well you know, good for Jon trying not to comment on Kate and Steve. Yes, they traveled together. A whole lot. Yes, it was inappropriate, but I still think the 'couple' or 'coupling' part was largely in Kate's head. Doubt Kate is interested much in physical relationships, shit, she can't even cuddle with her children, and who knows that better than her ex-husband. If those two were an 'item', where is he now? No reports of sharing holidays with him and his kids, no Steve sightings in the 'hood. She still pays him to travel with her, but I don't think Steve gave up his marriage for TFW. She is alone, and lonely, but probably doesn't understand why. No one understands how to help her; soon enough her children will be on that list too.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 2h
2day I'm xtra grateful 4 the smallest things: 8 early am smiles&hugs,hot coffee on a rainyday, &a quick return 2bed b4 the day begins agn!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h
@Kateplusmy8 LOL..sounds like a good plan 2me! Gratefulness makes one treasure those so-called insignificant things even more! #Happiness
So I guess Milo thinks that Kate getting hugs and smiles from her children is one of those "so-called insignificant things".
I thought Milo didn't pay attention to the haters? After she was getting some ribbing about saying that People was sold out when she tried to get copies, she apparently felt a need to address them:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h
4all U poor souls attacking me abt "not finding recent PeopleMag w/Kate"...I live N a rural community...they R sold out! But don't fret....
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h
....my SIL went 2the big city and picked up several copies...so U all can calm down now! I won't go without...:)
She's so like Kate. Claims to block the bullies, yet can't help reading what they say about her.
I don't think about it anymore.
Exactly just like it's not fair for Kate to dwell on and obsess over his dating from 5 years ago so too is it not healthy for him to obsess about Kate and Steve. He's right it's over, time to move on. The past is what it is.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 37
I don't think about it anymore.
Exactly just like it's not fair for Kate to dwell on and obsess over his dating from 5 years ago so too is it not healthy for him to obsess about Kate and Steve. He's right it's over, time to move on. The past is what it is.
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Another reason to move on is that Jon apologized. He has said this over and over again.
He is sorry. He apologized to Kate.
I believe him.
Just watched the interview and yes, Jon came across as someone who is finding himself after being maligned for so many years. He managed to present his side of things without any nasty innuendos toward Kate, he simply spoke the truth.
He began to explain why he would go back on television but the conversation got a little sidetracked. I think he knows that by being "well known" he can capitalize on that and earn a bigger income, but all without using his children. But, if he doesn't find a niche back in the television world, he will continue to work in the restaurant(s), he is not fixated on fame.
I did get a kick out of WW talking about how difficult Tony Donovan found TFW on DWTS, and Jon didn't have to say a thing. I wonder how Kate feels being thrown under the bus and publicly exposed.....possibly for the first time.
Jon's segment can be viewed here. I am now a Wendy Williams fan.
http://www.wendyshow.com/
Anonymous said... 45
(Leslie)
Not mentioned was Jon said he has to do most (if not all) the driving to get the kids. He picks them up at the school bus and then lets them off at the end of the driveway. Did Jon say Kate picks them up at the end of his driveway or does Jon drop them off at the end of Kate's driveway? I can't remember exactly what he said about that. It is sad that the kids can't be dropped off at her doorway. How petty of her!
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My ex always came in with my DD, carrying her stuff, talked about their weekend. TFW is such a........
Jon's interview is now posted on Wendy's website:
http://www.wendyshow.com/2014/01/14/jon-gosselin-kate-gosselin/#.UtWLCX4o4dU
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h
....my SIL went 2the big city and picked up several copies...so U all can calm down now! I won't go without...:)
Other than paper the walls with them or cut out the pictures for framing, what does one do with several copies?
The interview with Jon is up on wendyshow.com in its entirety.
OK, watching Jon's segment on Wendy because I missed the first half of it.
I didn't realize Jon actually lived in Utah and California and flew back for custody. That sucks, but again, now he's 4 miles away, so his learning curve is good (not flat like Kate's).
Moving on.
Funny off the cuff comments about Steve! "Eh, he's really not that tall" and "Huh, yeah, Target" when asked about Kate always, always being with Steve.
Exactly, Jon. Why the heck did Kate need Steve to run routine errands with her?
(there's a part of me that thinks that Steve put the fear of God into Kate about her security so that his services would be needed- job security and all).
So, then Wendy announces they're going to break and the audience audibly moans!
Never, ever, not ever has that happened to Kate.
Suck it.
Jon's watchable, and a big reason may be that there is no "Jon fatigue", so there's at least a small upshot to TLC's gagging him for 2 1/2 years.
Wendy assures the audience "we're coming back!"
Like, calm down people, there's more!
Will this interview be available online, or in a post here? Darn, I missed it. I went back to bed. It's what you do on a rainy day, don't you know?
Also, when Jon said he'd "fight it" if Kate wanted to put the kids onto another reality tv show, the audience broke out into spontaneous applause. Loudly.
I'm sorry for reporting 8% of income going into kids' trusts. Jon said 80% x 3 years.
Ignore my post. I found it. Sleeping too long makes me groggy.
where is he now? No reports of sharing holidays with him and his kids, no Steve sightings in the 'hood.
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Hmm a mistress does this as well.
Jumping In said... 53
I did get a kick out of WW talking about how difficult Tony Donovan found TFW on DWTS, and Jon didn't have to say a thing. I wonder how Kate feels being thrown under the bus and publicly exposed.....possibly for the first time.
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Did they show Jon's reaction to or did he comment on what WW was saying about Kate on DWTS or was he off stage by then?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h
4all U poor souls attacking me abt "not finding recent PeopleMag w/Kate"...I live N a rural community...they R sold out! But don't fret....
So where do you live in the boondocks? I been to a few small towns and even they have places they sell magazines. Perhaps where you live didn't want to sell Kate's people issues ever think of that?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 2h
....my SIL went 2the big city and picked up several copies...so U all can calm down now! I won't go without...:)
Of course you won't go without you Kate fix.
Just before the first break in the interview, Wendy was saying what she still wanted to talk about with Jon.
When she said "I want to talk about the children", Jon said "I won't listen". He may have mentioned them when talking about his relationship with Kate, but he did not talk about anything personal about any of them. Unlike their mother.
Jumping In, any long time fan of Dancing With The Stars knew that TFMJG was not getting along with folks on that set. From the not-quite-right costumes, hair, makeup to Tom Bergeron's comments to the final unflattering hoisting on a cherry picker with the most unattractive cameras angle and lighting ever. It was obvious that things were not running smoothly. This is the show that made Nancy Grace look like a princess! I wish I could hear all the stories from the crew working on this show at that time.
I can't wait for Kate to come out and call Wendy Williams a liar in regards to her comment about what Tony Dovalani said about her. It's one thing to try to discredit Jon but to go up against Wendy id a whole different game and one which Kate will lose. Wendy is very well respected by her peers in the media, Kate not so much.
When she said "I want to talk about the children", Jon said "I won't listen". He may have mentioned them when talking about his relationship with Kate, but he did not talk about anything personal about any of them. Unlike their mother.
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I believe Jon said, "I won't LIST them" as in, he's not going to single out any child by name.
Lynne In RI said... 60
Will this interview be available online, or in a post here? Darn, I missed it. I went back to bed. It's what you do on a rainy day, don't you know?
http://www.wendyshow.com/
I can't watch it until later myself.
So where do you live in the boondocks? I been to a few small towns and even they have places they sell magazines. Perhaps where you live didn't want to sell Kate's people issues ever think of that?
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There are probably two stores that each stock three copies. To Milo, that's a huge sell-out. She made it sound like hundreds of them flew off the shelf the first day.
http://www.examiner.com/article/jon-gosselin-alleges-kate-gosselin-uses-his-kids-on-wendy-video
"Jon Gosselin only communicates with Kate Gosselin by text message and the former reality star hasn’t seen his ex-wife for a long time. "
How can you not see your ex during pickup/dropoff? Either those kids have to walk up and down the driveway (even in the rain?) by themselves or there is hired help walking or driving them. She is such a tool.
Oh and this article says he suspects there are ultimatums which is a little different than bribes. It could be "if you don't do this you will not have your phone or you will be grounded..."
Was this live? I think so because I saw some photos of him earlier today leaving the show. If TFW thought the People article would destroy him it doesn't seem to have worked. He doesn't seem surprised or phased by her doing what she did.
http://www.wendyshow.com/2014/01/14/jon-gosselin-kate-gosselin/#.UtWY_vRDu0U
AuntieAnn said... 187
Happy Trails, all. You're a great group. :)
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Sorry to see you leave Tweetle.
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Ditto
Terri said... 68
I can't wait for Kate to come out and call Wendy Williams a liar in regards to her comment about what Tony Dovalani
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I bet she won't Kate won't go up against anyone bigger than her or that can fight her back.
When KC made her comment on not liking interviewing people like Kate mom of multiples. Kate tweeted and did nothing.
And the sheep are finally bleating:
@Snotty_Girl: @WendyWilliams Girl, the reason DWTS built Kate gosselin a practice floor at home is b/c shes a great mom & couldn't be away 4 that long
But she was able stay away for weeks at a time on her book tour with Steve-O
where is he now? No reports of sharing holidays with him and his kids, no Steve sightings in the 'hood.
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Hmm a mistress does this as well.
Sorry chef, don't think TFW is anyone's mistress. My gut feeling is that their relationship was largely business, maybe with some emotional ( on her part) overlays, and a lot of 'tease' about things physical. He does not seem to be around much lately, as she does not have much to do that takes her off and away. Her 'relationship' with Steve falls into that category of 'been there, who cares?'.
And we're off! Milo? Awaitin ur response!
@msgoody2shoes21: @WendyWilliams Jon Gosselin is a lying piece of shit. @Kateplusmy8
For as much ugliness that's occurred between Jon and Kate, I don't get the sense that Jon harbors any anger. Even after Kate fires volley after volley, he just doesn't seem to be bitter, but moreover, beaten down.
This is probably in great part to rebuilding and building relationships that suffered under Kate's rule.
I just can't find it believable that Jon would refuse or push back against direct contact with Kate, in order to better communicate about the kids.
I know I'm biased, but I truly think it's all Kate when it comes to this stilted method of handing off the kids and lack of co-parenting.
It also says some good about Liz that she has a sane, working relationship with her ex for the sake of her children.
It's a shame that Jon and Kate's relationship is the "polar opposite".
I believe Jon said, "I won't LIST them" as in, he's not going to single out any child by name.
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He said "list," but it wasn't in the context of his kids. He was being sarcastic because Wendy had said something about his many girlfriends and Jon said, "We'll list them (the girlfriends) and then rolled his eyes.
Jon was funny. I liked the part where he said that Steve isn't that tall, and that it was awkward when Steve accompanied Kate to Target.
Jumping in said...
I wonder how Kate feels being thrown under the bus and publicly exposed.....possibly for the first time.
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Yes. Somebody pinch me! That was great!
Jon said they were millionaires by the fourth season. So by the seventh season they must have had quite a bundle. Kate must have negotiated a higher take for her Kate Plus 8. Even if it didn't make Jon a millionaire in the 'tens' as he said, it probably did for TFW. Add to that her income from all the other crapola she's done to supplement her bank account and there you have it.
Piecing and patching? She must be making quilts out of hundred dollar bills.
Susan said... 54
Jon's segment can be viewed here. I am now a Wendy Williams fan.
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That was the first time I ever watched the show. It was a good interview. She (and Jon) did a nice job.
"I'm not afraid of her anymore"
Loved that.
See Kate. Therapy DOES help. Try it.
And here comes Goody, as to be expected. Jon always makes her crawl out from wherever! Watch for her comment on his getting "fixed."
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 11m
@WendyWilliams Jon Gosselin is a lying piece of shit. @Kateplusmy8
DVR'd Jon on WW and just watched the first part (they went to commercial and then they're going to talk about Jon's love life and the twins interview) so I wanted to get this down. I've got six pages of notes.
First, WW showed a clip of Liz and Jon on CT. Jon takes a picture of Liz but she stuck her finger up her nose which I thought was juvenile. Was not impressed with that. Jon says the difference between Liz and TFW is apples and oranges.
Liz, "Doesn't (TFW) like me, which is fine."
Jon, "She doesn't like anyone who comes into my life. No one."
Liz, "She gives you nothing my judgment."
Jon, "Oh yeah. I feel judged all the time.
Then WW introduces Jon. Jon comes out and he looked good. He and WW start talking. Liz was supposed to be there but she doesn't feel well so she's back home in PA. WW gives her a shout out but Jon says we don't have cable so she can't watch. Says they just moved into another house in the woods. Guess they're living together. Explains that after the show he moved to Ny, then Utah, then CA. But he always flew home for his custody time. Then he moved back to his hometown of Wyomissing. He found his original house in the woods on Craig's List. It had no address, 28 acres and was on private property.
Talked about his working in the restaurant. WW was surprised he wasn't workin in IT but he said he doesn't like cubicles and he realized that "but work is work and you gotta get stuff done but he wanted to try something different. He waited tables when he was younger before he got married and he missed it. "It was an interaction, no homework. You just do your thing."
WW asked about pulling the gun on the pap. Jon replied he asked pap to leave, pap wouldn't. He pulled the gun but the pap still wouldn't leave. The pap didn't get in the car and leave until he pulled the slide on the gun. Pap contacted police and wanted to press charges. Police informed pap if they pressed charges, they would arrest pap for trespassing.
WW asked about TFW's lawsuit. Jon replied that TFW dismissed (his word) the case. Jon said, "I guess I proved her wrong or she didn't want to go down that road." Then Jon says, "But Wendy, if I could do those things, I wouldn't be sitting here. I'd be working for the NSA."
WW asked, "How much money do you think you made off of J&K+8?" Jon replies, "Seven figures. But that's all gone now." Wendy asks if it was millions. Jon replies, "Not tens of millions. I was a millionaire probably by season four." WW asked what happened to the money and Jon replied divorce...Wendy asked about alimony and child support. Jon said no to alimony and said no child support. "That was a mutually agreed upon decision between Kate, I and the judge." He said being sued by TLC was about half a million dollars. Wendy said, "Instead of soldiering on you wanted to return to normalcy", Jon interrupted and said, "Didn't want my divorce documented for my children to watch in reruns." The audience applauded that.
Jon, "What child would want to watch the demise of their parents relationship?"
Wendy, "Who knew that this was you? You're alright..." Then Jon interrupted her and said, "Well, I wasn't allowed to talk for 2 1/2 years."
WW asks Jon if he believes TFW was having an affair with Steve. She lets the audience know that Steve is married.
Jon, "I tried to stop them...They travelled a lot together. I couldn't really do anything about it. I voiced my opinion. I thought it was awkward." Wendy asks him, "Do you think in your deepest thoughts that they've been together romantically?"
Jon, "Um, maybe. I don't know. I don't think about it anymore."
Then they went to commercial break. I'll report back after I watch the second part.
@aslightJEN: Jon Gosselin on Wendy Williams. He just acted like an Ed Hardy fool for a second cause Kate stole his youth. Now it's outta his system.
If she put it out there to make her adoring sheeple believe that she didn't watch Jon because she was asleep, then she would have to admit that she slept from the time the kids left the house (7 a.m.) until after the show (11 a.m.). That's a darn long nap! Who does that?
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Maybe she was taking her forced 4 hour nap in her crib and had to wait till 4 hours went by till she could get up. If she would of gotten up, she would face the "Penalty of Severeness".
Jon was Fabulous on WW. So funny, He's not that tall. Just the picture they showed of S and k, they looked guilty! Today is Tuesday so Jon has them night for supper so maybe kate will not be so evil when the kids get home from Jon's. Thrilled he is only 4 miles away from the compound.
Someone posted about dropping off the kids at the gate. kate is so spiteful that she refuses for Jon to have the code to open the gate so he can drive the kids down to the front door and let them out and leave. It is a waste of gas for the help to drive a vehicle up to the gate everyday to pick them up. It is too short to drive and too long to walk.
How she loves to keep every one in a Catch-22. Especially her children. Just wished WW would of asked if the kids get to see cousins, aunts, uncles, grandparents. Jon is so normal and family oriented that I believe he does as much as he can.
I bet she's livid he'll be 4 miles away. How will she explain the lack of ensuing panic when he takes the kids out regularly in their own neck of the woods? Plus the difference in the way he treats locals and she does will be glaring
capecodmama said... 85
DVR'd Jon on WW and just watched the first part (they went to commercial and then they're going to talk about Jon's love life and the twins interview) so I wanted to get this down. I've got six pages of notes.
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The video is up on the WW webpage. Jon seems just so natural, and with such a sense of humor and down-to-earthness.
"I'm not afraid of her anymore"
Loved that.
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Same here. Great comment.
He got another house in the woods 4 miles from her house ? Are you guys sure he didn't say 40 miles?
(Leslie)
Wendy said Jon was a man of principle. Yeah! Great interview.
It is a waste of gas for the help to drive a vehicle up to the gate everyday to pick them up. It is too short to drive and too long to walk.
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I don't believe it's an every day occurrence, and it's really not too long a walk, especially not for kids.
That said, it's just unconscionable that Jon isn't allowed to drive his own children to the front door. Such hatred on her part...
localyocul said... 78
And we're off! Milo? Awaitin ur response!
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I think we have to get through all of the vasectomy bots first!
WW with Jon Part Deux
Place that Jon just moved into is only four miles away from TFW and only one mile away from Liz's kids father but he and Jon get along.
Jon, "Liz and Matt have the polar opposite relationship as me and Kate."
WW asks how's your relationship with TFW now. Jon says they just text. They don't talk. Jon only knows what TFW says about him through the media.
Wendy wants to know about the tradeoff with the kids. Jon says he always picks them up at the bus stop and brings them back to his house. For the dropoff, he drops them off at the gate at his old house. (there's a murmur from the audience.)
Wendy then discusses the dueling magazine stories with regard to C&M saying they want to get back on reality TV. Wendy says she was reading in In Touch where Jon said, "Oh heck no, the kids can't stand it." (These are Wendy's words and I believe she was paraphrasing what Jon said in the article.) Jon said, "Exactly. So it's alwasy a discrepancy back and forth."
They talked about his dating back in "09 and he said it was three women but he only brought two women around the kids. With regard to TFW and the kids Jon thinks there may be "goading and ultimatums" involved.
Wendy brings up Joy's Saint Tony of DWTS and she said that Tony only had bad things to say (to Wendy) about TFW, including that she wanted to be treated like "Princess Kate' and had DWTS build the dance studio in the basement of her house because she didn't want to go practice like everyone else. The audience murmured again but Wendy said, "oh, don't worry, as soon as it was over they went and ripped it right up."
Wendy asked Jon if he would let TFW let the kids particip[ate in another reality show and he said, "No. I'd fight it." The audience applauds. Wendy, "How about if she gave you a cut of the money?" Jon, "No. I don't need the money. I'll just go to work."
Wendy asks if the kids go to public school and Jon says no, private. But they have education trusts. He said he and TFW put "8% of the gross of the income for three years into trusts for them." Audience applauds.
Wendy said she watches CT and was surprised to see Jon there. He said he wouldn't let his kids film again but he didn't say he wouldn't. She asked if he loved 'celebrity' and he said not really. She asks him if he would marry again and he says he likes the thought of marriage. Jon, "When you see cute old couples throught Central Park, I want that." He's fixed and doesn't want anymore kids. Audience applauds.
Wendy says, "it was really nice to meet you." They hug. After commercial break she says,"We all felt sorry for Jon Gosslin. We really like him."
I thought it was a great interview.
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 11m
@WendyWilliams Jon Gosselin is a lying piece of shit. @Kateplusmy8
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God Himself could come down and tell Goody that Jon is a good father is a saint for all he put up with and she'd tell God that He's wrong and doesn't know what He's talking about. Some man must have really done Ms Goodie wrong in the past for her to have this much hate for someone she doesn't know (unless she's a sock for TFW and TFW uses this persona to say everything she can't).
My gut feeling is that their relationship was largely business.
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He's playing her one way or another.
I would not discount Steve so soon. Don't you guys think he accompanied Kate and the girls in NYC for the People shoot? I do.
If Kate and Steve did anything, they were very discreet. Remember, this guy works for a company that has private detectives to watch spouses accused of cheating. He knows all the tricks. I believe Jon has no proof, just his intuition. And yes, their traveling everywhere was inappropriate. Kate didn't give a rat's behind what Jon thought and neither did Steve for that matter. I totally understand how he felt pushed out of the family dynamics.
Someone must have counseled Jon to cool his behavior after that horrible article interview. I still disagree with him and Liz appearing on Couples Therapy.
(Leslie)
Kate must be fuming about Jon saying he will fight if Kate wants to film again. If any producers had any thoughts about making a reality show of Kate and the kids, they will now have second thoughts. Producers do not want to fight the Dad of 8 kids in court. And by Jon's track record, he is not afraid to battle for his kids in court. The TLC lawsuit cost him a half million. That will stop any future producers in their tracks.
Remember within the last year, Kate went on The Today Show and other shows with the news that she and Jon were now friendly. HA! She is a freaking liar.
(Leslie)
It is so telling that Kate tweets back Goody a lot of times. Kate endorses all the hate towards Jon. That is sick and so immature. It says a lot that one of Kate's fans has as much hate toward Jon as Kate does. No wonder Kate likes Goody.
I have always wondered and never got an answer that I know of here. If Jon is on talk show and gets paid for pics they show (or TFW is on and paid for pics) Does Kate get $$ for any pics they use during Jon's interview and vice versa?
I wonder if the money Jon got from CT was the reason he had the money to get the house just miles from TFW? If so as far as I'm concerned, it was worth the flack he took/is taking for doing CT.
Remember within the last year, Kate went on The Today Show and other shows with the news that she and Jon were now friendly. HA! She is a freaking liar.
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Really? I miss so much of this saga. I thought that she's always said that they are "working on it" or implies that they tolerate each other. She disclosed that they were actually friendly? When did they get "unfriendly" again?
Why does Milo read here?
I think MsGoody has a major sexual attraction to Jon. What did he lie about? That he drives more than Kate? That Kate and Stever WERE having an affair? That he DID want his kids to watch the divorce play on TV?
I'd love the crazy MissGoody to tell us what Jon lied about. Shall I list Kate's lies?
Poor sheep. Wonder when they will start jumping off the cliff.
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(Leslie)
Kate must be fuming about Jon saying he will fight if Kate wants to film again. If any producers had any thoughts about making a reality show of Kate and the kids, they will now have second thoughts
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I agree. Part of Jon's strategy to keep his kids from earning the paycheck might be to let it be known in no uncertain terms, that he will fight any attempt at getting his children signed up for a reality tv show.
I wonder how Kate slipped CWS by him, given that at some point that week, Jon should have been scheduled to see his kids.
ROL article about Jon's WW appearance:
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/01/jon-gosselin-vasectomy-kate-gosselin-children-exploited-reality-tv/
Ahhh, there's MsGoody, right on time, saying Jon's a lying POS.
Is Jon trending anywhere yet?
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 11m
@WendyWilliams Jon Gosselin is a lying piece of shit. @Kateplusmy8
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God Himself could come down and tell Goody that Jon is a good father is a saint for all he put up with and she'd tell God that He's wrong and doesn't know what He's talking about. Some man must have really done Ms Goodie wrong in the past for her to have this much hate for someone she doesn't know (unless she's a sock for TFW and TFW uses this persona to say everything she can't).
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She has some very serious mental issues going on, and if Kate has any smarts, she won't recognize her or tweet her in any way shape or fashion. She's not someone with whom Kate should be associated, even if it's just through Twitter. Awhile back I read some of this person's screenshots that someone posted, and my jaw dropped open. I'm no prude, and it takes a lot to shock me, but that one did.
I think Kate estranges the twins from their dad so she can keep them close to do things like the People interview. Kate alienating their dad gives them less opportunity to discuss the upcoming projects Kate has up her sleeve with him. They never get a chance to tell him how they truly feel about this never ending push to regain celebrity. They're under Kate's spell for now and Mady's "ooooh" and "waaaah" remark confirmed that for me.
Wendy don't like Kate lol but she likes Jon here's an after the show clip.
http://www.wendyshow.com/2014/01/14/wendy-williams-jon-gosselin/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#.UtXYRJ5dX55
I'm glad WW reiterated Tony Dovolani's sentiments about his experience with Kate. The more the word about her behavior and true personality get out the less the chance of her mug appearing on TV gets. The powers that be in that industry is relatively small and word of reputations like Kate's does make the rounds.
From what I understand on the Wendy Williams interview, the kids all have nice trust funds for all of their needs/wants. Must be why their mother doesn't need to get a job. Plenty of money to draw from. How fortunate TFW invested in her own future. Those kids' trust funds could be dry as many have predicted by the time they are finished college or maybe before.
Would any producer in their right mind give TFW bunch another reality show? In that interview it sounded like JG drew the line in the sand on that issue. Also pleased to hear JG speaking like a real person and not someone afraid to utter a sound. He doesn't use pauses and unnecessary Um's. Noticeable difference. He certainly isn't crying poor mouth or talking about a "pocket full of bills". Good for him.
Loved the part of the interview when Wendy mentioned Tony D! She certainly didn't hold back in telling the truth re: DWTS. I still believe
TFW was kept on that show longer not by viewer vote, but by producers. I haven't tried to vote for anyone on that show since. Still believe voting is not decided by viewers.
This is the type of interview I always hope that Jon delivers when he decides to speak. Believe it or not, I do root for the guy. In the future, I hope he does a better job vetting those that interview him. The Dad's Roundtable, Oprah's WATN, and this are how I think he likes to be portrayed. He has to know that there are some in the media that are still out to punish him (like that Philly reporter) and to steer clear of that ilk. He's no babe in the woods. He's been around the losing end of that PR game long enough to know to be cautiously selective when selecting an outlet. And not to do an interview at the local pub.
Jon said that he and Kate put 80% away in trusts for the kids. Guess she can't touch that or he would have said so.
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I just watched the video of Jon's interview. He IS such a pleasant guy.
And I wish more talk show hosts would interview Kate the way Wendy just did with Jon. Then again, Kate does have a list of pre-approved questions, doesn't she?
I don't know why Jon feels the need to overshare things like his vasectomy. I know he's authentic and all that but it really is TMI. He mentioned that long ago during a Utah interview I think and it was yucky then too. It made me wonder why he would have gotten that done while he was still with Kate and they had such fertility problems? I'm guessing it was at Kate's insistence.
Wendy Williams does brief clips called "After Show" which she posts on her website. Here is the clip from today:
http://www.wendyshow.com/2014/01/14/wendy-williams-jon-gosselin/#.UtW_BH4o4dU
Wendy says how she really likes Jon Gosselin. She feels sorry for him. She also says "I think that everything people say is true. I think that Kate Gosselin is probably a mean harpie and bosses him around." She also asks the crew how he was backstage, and they say "he's a really nice guy".
She also says backstage "who likes Jon Gosselin, raise your hand. I thought he was really cute".
She only talks about Jon in the first minute of the above video. I guess she really does like Jon.
Kate was on Wendy's show on 9/12/11, yet the only clip from that show is where Wendy gave her a gift of a fanny pack. Seems like Wendy does not like Kate at all. I bet some of the stuff that Tony told her about Kate has something to do with that.
Yet Kate still continues to say that everyone who meets her likes her. If you liked someone, I don't think you would call them a "mean harpie".
Sav♡ @SavGuercio 54m
@MiloandJack how'd you get @Kateplusmy8 to follow you???? PLEASE tell me!! I'm a huge fan of her and would LOVE for her to follow me!
I'd like an answer to this also. Although if I recall, Kate started following Milo when she ran the SD half marathon, so that Milo could give a play-by-play of Kate's progress.
Sav♡ @SavGuercio 54m
@MiloandJack how'd you get @Kateplusmy8 to follow you???? PLEASE tell me!! I'm a huge fan of her and would LOVE for her to follow me!
I'd like an answer to this also. Although if I recall, Kate started following Milo when she ran the SD half marathon, so that Milo could give a play-by-play of Kate's progress.
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If that tweet to Milo doesn't swell up her head to the size of a kodiak grizzly, I don't know what will.
Wendy says how she really likes Jon Gosselin. She feels sorry for him. She also says "I think that everything people say is true. I think that Kate Gosselin is probably a mean harpie and bosses him around."
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I've gone to put down the wine or get new reading glasses. I read this as "Kate Gosselin is probably a mean herpie."
Thanks to all those who gave recaps of WW today, in particular Tucker's Mom for being perhaps the first out of the gate and capecodmama with her detailed post.
(Leslie)
I don't know why Jon feels the need to overshare things like his vasectomy. I know he's authentic and all that but it really is TMI.
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WW point blank asked him. And he said yes. What was he suppose to say? And so what if he had a vasectomy.
I don't think knowing that a man who has 8 children has had a vasectomy. Why is this 'yucky'? It is certainly an honest comment unlike his ex and her 'good bra'. It wasn't a discussion, just a piece of information. And then we move on.
I don't know why Jon feels the need to overshare things like his vasectomy.
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WW led him into that. He didn't come up with it on his own. She's the one who asked him about having more children and she said, "Did you get fixed?" to which he replied, "Yeah, I'm fixed." I think she caught him off guard on that one.
It's not the olden days. We're not supposed to be ashamed of things like vasectomies anymore. Rather that's just being a responsible and unselfish parent. Did Kate make the same responsible choice and get her tubes tied? I'm guessing not, that she would have another kid in a heartbeat if she felt it would benefit her emotionally financially or fame wise.
Sherry Baby said... 121
I've gone to put down the wine or get new reading glasses. I read this as "Kate Gosselin is probably a mean herpie."
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lol! Well, she's that too.
You might need glasses and I think I need a hearing aid. I thought Jon said 'that bullshit is over' when he was asked about the lawsuit. I turned the sound up and replayed it. He said 'that lawsuit is over'.
Sherry Baby said... 125
I don't know why Jon feels the need to overshare things like his vasectomy.
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WW led him into that. He didn't come up with it on his own. She's the one who asked him about having more children and she said, "Did you get fixed?" to which he replied, "Yeah, I'm fixed." I think she caught him off guard on that one.
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Hey, at least Jon didn't say "Um, no, I got a new jock strap"
I have to share this story that I saw on FB. It's about people who feel they are entitled and use the "don't you know who I am" ploy to get service. It reminded me of Kate and her sense of entitlement. Don't know if it's true or not, but you just have to love the gate agent's response to the customer. Sorry, but it is a bit long. I hope you don't mind.
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"It happened at a New York Airport. This is hilarious. I
wish I had the guts of this girl. An award should go to the United
Airlines gate agent in New York for being smart and funny, while
making her point, when confronted with a passenger who probably
deserved to fly as cargo. For all of you out there who have had to
deal with an irate customer, this one is for you.
A crowded United Airlines flight was canceled. A
single agent was re-booking a long line of inconvenienced travelers.
Suddenly, an angry passenger pushed his way to the desk. He slapped his ticket on the counter and said, “I HAVE to be on this flight and it has to be FIRST CLASS.”
The agent replied, “I’m sorry, sir. I’ll be happy to try
to help you, but I’ve got to help these folks first; and then I’m
sure we’ll be able to work something out.”
The passenger was unimpressed. He asked loudly, so that
the passengers behind him could hear, “DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHO I AM?”
Without hesitating, the agent smiled and grabbed her
public address microphone. “May I have your attention, please?”, she began, her voice heard clearly throughout the terminal. “We have a passenger here at Gate 14 WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHO HE IS. If anyone can help him with his identity, please come to Gate 14″.
With the folks behind him in line laughing hysterically,
the man glared at the United Airlines agent, gritted his teeth, and said, “F*** You!”
Without flinching, she smiled and said, “I’m sorry sir,
you’ll have to get in line for that, too.”
Life isn’t about how to survive the storm, but how to
dance in the rain."
It must be so hard for the kids to 'perform' for Kate and do what she says, say what she wants, yet express opposite feelings to Jon.I wonder if it was too much for the twins to be caught in the middle so that's why they see Jon less often?
I'm glad WW reiterated Tony Dovolani's sentiments about his experience with Kate. The more the word about her behavior and true personality get out the less the chance of her mug appearing on TV gets. The powers that be in that industry is relatively small and word of reputations like Kate's does make the rounds.
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Could this truly be the beginning of the end? In less than a week's time, Jon and TFW have had dueling magazine covers. Despite People's slanted article, mostpeople are not only able to see TFW's exploitation of her children and just mean personaility but are commenting about it. Now Jon gives a relaxed, candid interview in which he does not resort to crocodile tears about how bad he has it, etc. and displays a good sense of humor. The host bashes TFW and passes on Saint Tony's feelings about her. I think a lot of people aren't afraid of TFW anymore.
Robert, please release the book again.
I'm going to go ahead and call it now. I think Jon will be on one of the next seasons of DWTS. If he can stay grounded thru the next round of interviews and the rest of Couples Therapy, why couldn't he do it if the producers ask him again? He could work the schedule around his custody times and is young and energetic enough to withstand both the practices and frequent flights back home to see the kids. I think he could do well on his own merits without dragging the kids into it. And if it would give him and the kids a bit of a financial cushion, I say go for it!
Thanks to all those who gave recaps of WW today
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Thanks from me too.
I got a pedi of my very own this evening and read the article in People.
Want to say that you guys did a great job summarizing it and sharing the lowlights.
However, some things need to be seen to be believed: Holy Photoshop Batman!!
Did Kate make the same responsible choice and get her tubes tied? I'm guessing not, that she would have another kid in a heartbeat if she felt it would benefit her emotionally financially or fame wise. 126
And mess with that surgically enhanced, anorexic body? I doubt it.
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Hilarious, thanks for sharing. I think we've all dealt with a person who feels entitled to special treatment and this guy did get very special treatment. Bravo to this woman.
And maybe it's time for Robert to stop teasing about 'the book'. Frankly, I'm not sure it needs to be released. The kids are older, and nothing good will come of either parent being dragged through the media muck. It's all out there anyway; time to move on. What real point will this serve?
WW point blank asked him. And he said yes. What was he suppose to say? And so what if he had a vasectomy.
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I would have liked him to simply say his plate is full in that department or something like that. Him bringing up the vas. leads to headlines like Radars calling him The Sperminator. It also opens a Pandora's box of questions about why he got it when they had fertility problems. Less oversharing is better on some topics.
I guess the sheep haven't commented on the child support issue -- that the JUDGE was involved and Kate didn't, on her own, relieve him of support.
I honestly don't think that any of them are capable of understanding the legalities of it all. There are times when I do feel sorry for them...not often, but it does happen.
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Lynne RI, I watched Wendy Williams only one time. That was when she had the Witch Kate Gosselin on and I vowed never to watch the show again. Well, it has been some time since she had phony Kate on. After today, I have new respect for Ms.Williams. I will check her show out again. She is funny and has lot's of talent. Channel 25 here in the great north.. I will watch again. I am now a fan. She is the very FIRST to ask the god questions. And the audience CHEERED. No fake crap here. They liked Jon. Who wouldn't? Today Show can Suck it.
Thanks to all for posting the link for the show. I was at work so didn't get to see it this morning. I thought he did a good job and came across as very likeable and most of all authentic. TFW always comes across as inauthentic with all her, ums, honestelys and truthfullys. He answered all questions put to him without having to pause and try to remember the scripted answer. I didn't think that his saying that he had a vasectomy was TMI. He was asked a question and answered that he couldn't have any more kids because he'd been fixed. Pretty responsible on his part if you ask me. I'm also glad that WW brought up DWTS and St. Tony's opinion of TFW. Finally someone who isn't afraid to tell it like it is! You go Wendy! I wish there were more like her. I'm also glad that Jon seems to understand why the twins said what they did in the People interview and knows where it's coming from. I hope the twins realize sooner rather than later what he's done for them and that he's actually acting like a parent and not their BFF. If TFW continues to act like their BFF and not their parent she deserves everything she gets as they get older and enter the PITA years.
Tucker's Mom said... 104
I know how Kate slipped it by. Kedra came there. Crew and all. The children were blindsided. That is how the wonderful Mother pulled it off.
Well, I see in the future for Jon is a lot of family court to come. Kate is desperate to get back on TV hook or crook, with or without the kids. Kate managed to slip CWS & this interview passed Jon. I do believe Kate will film a show with kids, in secret, buy the kids silents from their dad and air the show, before Jon can get to or file in court. Kate also did this with the Aussie trip. Kate is a low-life. Co-parenting will never happen, between Jon & Kate. Kate blames Jon for everything that has gone wrong, in her life, since the original show ended. Kate has never and she even admit to, not having any regrets or would never change anything. It's Kates, plan or the highway. What a fool!
Hand said,
"Him bringing up the vas. leads to headlines like Radars calling him The Sperminator."
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He didn't bring it up. Wendy did, and he answered her. I didn't see anything objectionable about it. They didn't dwell on it. They just moved on.
ROL will grab at anything for headlines...even if he hadn't said a word about it, they would have latched on to something else and made a mountain out of the proverbial molehill.
We explained to the sheeple over and over that Kate can't just relieve him of support that only a judge can do that and it's based on a complicated equation that factors in your time with the kids, your income, and their standard of living. It fell on deaf ears. Validated once again.
It also opens a Pandora's box of questions about why he got it when they had fertility problems. Less oversharing is better on some topics.
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They didn't have fertility problems, Kate supposedly did. Nothing wrong with Jon's little soldiers.
Again, so what? He didn't dodge the question and if by chance, in the future, he feels the need to let his little soldiers march forth and multiply, he can have it reversed and give it a go.
OrangeCrusher1 said... 135
And maybe it's time for Robert to stop teasing about 'the book'. Frankly, I'm not sure it needs to be released. The kids are older, and nothing good will come of either parent being dragged through the media muck. It's all out there anyway; time to move on. What real point will this serve?
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I want it re-released just to prove it CAN be done without any copyright infringement, lawsuit, etc. That, and watching sheeple heads 'splode.
Why would it bring up questions about fertility problems? They were both very clear their fertility issues had to do with Kate's alleged medical issues. No one ever claimed Jon wasn't perfectly capable of fathering a child without help. And I really think Radar is rather juvenile with that comment, who cares? Time to grow up and stop giggling like they're in 8th grade. No one else had a problem discussing it like mature adults.
Sherry baby: the WW interview, the articles are starting to appear, and the comments are 50-50, mostly about his not paying CS. Most of the negative comments are from Kate lovers(probably the same ones who always comment), they really did not listen to what Jon said, cause most got it wrong.
Well, I see in the future for Jon is a lot of family court to come. Kate is desperate to get back on TV hook or crook, with or without the kids. Kate managed to slip CWS & this interview passed Jon. I do believe Kate will film a show with kids, in secret, buy the kids silents from their dad and air the show, before Jon can get to or file in court. Kate also did this with the Aussie trip.
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I don't think that's what happened. They were in court BEFORE the trip to Australia. Jon tried to prevent the trip, but from what I understand, the judge ruled against him because she and the kids had a contract to fulfill. She didn't slip it by him. He knew about it before it happened and tried to stop it.
I'm not so sure that there will be lots of family court in his future. Before it gets to that point, she has to be offered a show. It certainly doesn't look like that's going to happen, as much as she wants it to.
Has Kate gotten out of bed yet? Or is she going to stay there until this goes away.
It made me wonder why he would have gotten that done while he was still with Kate and they had such fertility problems? I'm guessing it was at Kate's insistence/
Him bringing up the vas. leads to headlines like Radars calling him The Sperminator. It also opens a Pandora's box of questions about why he got it when they had fertility problems.
Jon didn't bring it up, he answered a direct question from Wendy. There really wasn't much else he could do. He didn't elaborate and there was no big discussion about it. Leave it up to RadarOnline to trash up a parent making a responsible decision to not have more children.
After having 8 children, whether they had fertility issues or not, what difference would it make? He had 8 healthy children and didn't want more.
Yes, indeed. There's Milo:
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 4m
@Kateplusmy8 Well, if a man decides 2sleep around, drink & lead a promiscuous life...a vasectomy is a good idea!
I find it a tad unfair to say Jon's admitting to a vasectomy when WW brought it up (what the hell else was he going to say??) is TMI, when Kate has been using her PCOS(ish) as narrative for her story ever since their first special, "Surviving Sextuplets and Twins", ages ago.
Kate's fertility has been her source of pity, attention, motivation, justification and validation for just about everything you see today.
If Jon is on talk show and gets paid for pics they show (or TFW is on and paid for pics) Does Kate get $$ for any pics they use during Jon's interview and vice versa?
Most photos shown on talk shows come from either the tv network they were on or from a photo agency, If the network or agency asks for usage fees, then they would receive the money, not Jon or Kate.
I'd imagine that IF Jon or Kate ever gave any talk show any photos they personally took and asked to be paid for their use, that they would keep the money for themselves - same as their appearance fee, if they were paid for doing the show.
He got another house in the woods 4 miles from her house ? Are you guys sure he didn't say 40 miles?
Yes, he positively said 4 miles. And he said it's in the woods, the same as the original house which he still has.
Did Jon say Kate picks them up at the end of his driveway or does Jon drop them off at the end of Kate's driveway?
Jon has said even at the beginning of the divorce, that he does all the driving. He picks the kids up at the bus stop and returns them to the end of TFW's driveway. TFW has always maintained the attitude that if he wants to see his kids that he'll have to make all the effort to see them. I mean, heaven forbid she'd work with him (there's that co-parent word that she doesn't have in her vocabulary) and meet him half way - literally and figuratively.
(Leslie)
Radar has a story that was printed a few months ago in Nov. saying that Jon shopped around for a girlfriend to film VH1 Couples Therapy. And that he contacted Hailey and wanted to film with her instead of Liz because it would bring him more press. And that Hailey could earn $200,000 if she chose to do so.
This is pure bullshit. Where do they come up with this garbage. I mean they can print anything they want to. I wish Jon would sue them and make them provide proof. I doubt they have it. I don't believe for a minute that he contacted crazy Hailey to film with her. And remember Hailey was the one who was suppose to have the goods on him in the lawsuit. The goods meaning the fake texts about Jon taking Kate down. This story makes zero sense. It makes me so mad, no surprise that Radar is owned by the National Enquirer.
YES!! Wendy Williams is the first journalist out there to ask the real questions! And Jon answered them respectfully. He didnt have to throw Kate under the bus, because she does that quite well herself.
I will have to go back and rewatch, but if I recall, Wendy did try to hardball with kate but she did the same evasive tactics she usually does. I am going to go back and try to find it!
I have had it. ( equeuingite aigue).
So, I, franky, montion to stop posting ex-nurse's comments.
I am sorry, but she brings the conversation down.
One reason I post less.
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Jon said that he and Kate put 80% away in trusts for the kids. Guess she can't touch that or he would have said so.
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Not necessarily. Kate could touch the money if she's the administrator and if she's following the terms of the trust. If the terms say, for example, that the monies can be used for their education, then she'd probably be using it, but if the terms say specifically only for a college education, then she'd be violating the terms if she dipped into the funds early. IF she's the sole administrator of the trusts and IF the trusts are revokable, then she could change the terms, have them rewritten, or even closed - it all depends on info we don't know. We don't know how many trusts the kids have, who is named administrator of all of them or what the terms are.
I thought Kate was on the Wndy Williams show with her crookbook tour? I cant find it tho....
Am I wrong?
I, franky, am frankly tired of ex-nurse's posts, I motion for a ban on her comments.
She is the major reason I post less,
franky
Wendy asked Jon if he would have any more kids, and I think Jon tried to shrug it off, and he might have been about to say something and she said " Did you get snipped" and he kind of looked shyly, and said ' ya, I'm snipped".
The link to the video is up thread. Watch it, it puts everything in perspective!!
Jon said he hasnt been able to talk for 2.5 years. TFW's gag orders and whatever no talk orders TLC had in place protected Kate. But now as those gag orders are being lifted, I think we will see a whole 'nother side of the story!
And Milo checks in. What an asshat.
@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 Well, if a man decides 2sleep around, drink & lead a promiscuous life...a vasectomy is a good idea! #LookinAtTheBrightSideOfIt
I want it re-released just to prove it CAN be done without any copyright infringement, lawsuit, etc. That, and watching sheeple heads 'splode.
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Can they really explode any more than they've already exploded? LOL!
WTH, how is admitting to a vasectomy gross? She asked if he'd been fixed he said yes. It's not like he whipped out his scrotum to show the scars. I am always amazed at what some people get upset or "ew" about. Is it TMI is someone states they had mastectomy because they run a high risk for breast cancer? How about having a tubal ligation, hysterectomy, testicle removed for cancer? Was TFMJG showing her jowls of the dog or bouncing around in her invisible good bra okay? Not trying to be argumentative, I sincerely don't understand why that's "icky".
Loved the interview and how he qualified he's ordinary not "normal" as really normal is different to everyone. And he busted TFW with his admission of having earned into the 7 figures. I'm sure she's working through those children's trust though. The only thing she's piecing and patching is her lies. I'm sure she'd love a few more millions to keep trying to become like that cat lady with all the plastic work.
Jon looked so natural and good. How ironic the one without all the work done on them looks good but the nipped and tucked ex looks like a Dollar Store Barbie knock off. Good on Jon for being his own person. Kate is never going to find her perfect Policeman Ken doll, so she's got to tell the kids how horrid it was that daddy dated. Yep, Wendy, she is a harpy.
So TFW never has to drop kids off at Jon's??? That's ridiculous!
Meagler - I might be wrong but I don't think Kate was on her show during the book tour. She was on it in 2011 when Kate Plus 8 was coming to an end. WW gave her a huge fanny pack. Kate tried to feign a happy, happy look, but you just know she was disappointed that her 'surprise' gift was a gag joke. Poor thing.
Milo is the kind of friend that Kate needs.....somebody that always sucks up to her and never tells her the truth....because Kate can't handle the truth.....it conflicts with her version of reality..... i think i would pay money to find out if "Milo" really exists....or if it is just Kate behind a screen name.
And Milo checks in. What an asshat.
@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 Well, if a man decides 2sleep around, drink & lead a promiscuous life...a vasectomy is a good idea! #LookinAtTheBrightSideOfIt
Oh, but read her follow-up tweet. She wasn't talking about Jon. She didn't mention his name.
I just can't find it believable that Jon would refuse or push back against direct contact with Kate, in order to better communicate about the kids. I know I'm biased, but I truly think it's all Kate when it comes to this stilted method of handing off the kids and lack of co-parenting.
I absolutely agree. I think Jon's always expressed a willingness and even a desire to work with TFW in co-parenting the kids but she refuses. I think she bears sole responsibility for them not communicating. I remember her refusing to communicate any other way than via text during the Ellen days. I gave her the benefit of the doubt that 'co-parenting' was relatively new to her back then and she just needed time to adjust, but there's no rational reason for her to still be acting this way.
Anonymous said... 156
(Leslie)
''Radar has a story that was printed a few months ago in Nov. saying that Jon shopped around for a girlfriend to film VH1 Couples Therapy. And that he contacted Hailey and wanted to film with her instead of Liz because it would bring him more press. And that Hailey could earn $200,000 if she chose to do so.''
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Did Radar also post the response of the therapist on Couples Therapy that said that was a big fat lie?
" Did you get snipped" and he kind of looked shyly, and said ' ya, I'm snipped".
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I thought he said "fixed." Did I hear it wrong?
PatK said... 145
I want it re-released just to prove it CAN be done without any copyright infringement, lawsuit, etc. That, and watching sheeple heads 'splode.
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I think Robert made it clear on his blog Q&A that he does not have the money to defend the book against future lawsuits. Kate has shut him down just by forcing him to spend so much defending himself on this past years' lawsuit. And she can bring a lawsuit if the book gets released, which he would have to once again defend himself against. That doesn't mean she would win, just that she has the money to sue and he does not have the money to defend himsefl.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 172
" Did you get snipped" and he kind of looked shyly, and said ' ya, I'm snipped".
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''I thought he said "fixed." Did I hear it wrong?''
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Wendy asked him if he got fixed, and he said yes I'm fixed. You heard it correctly.
Yes, he positively said 4 miles. And he said it's in the woods, the same as the original house which he still has.
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I think that might have been a misunderstanding. He said, "I have a house in the woods. Now I have another house in the woods," It's a tense shift from "have," meaning, (here I have) a house in the woods, and now another house in the woods. She mentioned him having two houses, and he didn't confirm it, but said that PA is woods,
ugh...it was the Bethany talk show I was thinking of, and she did an awful job of interviewing Kate. I think bethany thot she was asking the hard questions, but she couldnt stop her self from interjecting her own answers there fore giving Kate a bunch of outs.
Interesting to note... Kate said on the Bethany interview " I personally deposited most of our income from the show into trust funds for the kids" ( so they could go to school, etc). " Personally" meant she was the one who took the money to the bank and wrote out the deposit. Note how he words it to make it sound like she was the only one interested in making sure this was done.
Today Jon says something like... " yes, we put 80% from the first 3 years into trust funds /education funds for the kids."
Kate = "I"
Jon = "we"
Yep, Kate's true colors have been shined again.... lol....this is good the beginning of the end!
Also, on Nov 4, kate posted " her response" on her blog, to Jons comment about the development of the children. If I was a betting person, I would bet that Kate also called up her fiend Katie at People and asked for a story. If TFW mug made them money earlier in the year, and Kate is willing to put her teens on the front page saying things about their mom and their dad, people knew that would sell.
Ha! The timing of the Wendy Williams show was awesome opportunity for Jon right after the People's cover.
I wonder how many days before TFW is farting rainbows again?
Wendy asked him if he got fixed, and he said yes I'm fixed. You heard it correctly.
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Thanks, Remona. I listened to it on my laptop, and the speakers, even on max volume, are just about shot!
Maybe it was a rude question, but people sometimes ask rude questions and instead of embarrassing them or making them feel bad, you just answer.
His vasectomy is old. old news. Where has Radar been? They make themselves look as silly as Kate's lawsuits.
I'm willing to bet Kate will not let this go without getting her face on tv for some kind of rebuttal.
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I thought Jon did a good job with the interview. Appears quite likeable, even.
I only wish they would both stop this tit for tat. Jon should know this just stirs up more crap at home for his kids. Why is it so important that he show the world he's an 'ordinary' dad? Aren't all parents ordinary?
I feel badly for the kids. There's no need for these two idiot parent to continue their bickering on tv. Jon said he didn't want his divorce to play out on reruns but what he is doing IS going to play out on reruns.
Jon, as likeable as you seem, it's NOT ordinary to go on trash talk shows to talk about your exwife. You're supposed to be the better parent!
Sleepless In Seattle said... 175
''I think that might have been a misunderstanding. He said, "I have a house in the woods. Now I have another house in the woods," It's a tense shift from "have," meaning, (here I have) a house in the woods, and now another house in the woods. She mentioned him having two houses, and he didn't confirm it, but said that PA is woods''
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Like some others, when I watched the interview, I thought he now has two houses. However, I just watched the entire interview again, and I now believe you are correct....that the house he now has that is four miles from TFW is also in the woods. He laughingly asked WW if she'd driven the turnpike, and when she said yes, he said everything is woods, so the new house would be in the woods.
I still believe that he was able to get the house closer to his children due to the money he got for being on CT, and if so, I think that is worth it to him...no matter how much flack he gets for being on the show.
I've seen and heard enough from both of them to have a fair idea of who has truly tried to co-parent and who has not.
I think the revelation that Kate has never liked anyone he is with says it all. Really, not ONE of his friends she liked? Yet the kids seemed to love Ellen. The twins talked about Ellen fondly when they were in Baltimore, and there is a sweet pic of Collin with Ellen. And if they were really bad women, Kate could have easily gotten an order they are not to be around the children. These orders are as common as apple pie.
Point is, it's not the women themselves she doesn't like. It's Jon being happy that pisses her off. She wants to punish him forever, and that is sick. Much like the parental alienation is more about hurting him for the sake of hurting him because she resents what went down when he left the show, not because she honestly believes that the kids are unsafe with him or don't love him to pieces. She is a very ill woman who needs help.
I also think it is very nice that Liz gets along just fine with her ex. That says a lot about Liz. Not everyone has to have such drama with their ex. Some time ago when Kate claimed that she asked that the pit bull not be around the kids, Liz stood up to Kate and said look I have no idea what you're talking about since the only time I ever tried to have a peaceful adult conversation with you, you rolled up the window in my face. That says it all. Liz TRIED to be nice, and Kate gave her the cold shoulder. Liz and Jon have TRIED to reason with her, and she behaves like a vindictive baby.
If anyone read Amanda Knox's book, she talks a lot about how well her parents co-parented even though they both were divorced and remarried. She was also close with both stepparents. Her stepdad moved to Italy full time during her case so her mom could be in the US with her siblings.
In any case she said she never felt particularly upset by their split and got along well with both. And guess what, her dad lived in the same neighborhood, so she would just pop over there whenever. I think that certainly played a huge role. Her story of prison was moving but I found what she had to say about being from a functional divorced family to be just as important. And what greater test of that than what she went through. ????????????????????
Bad example. She's been charged with murder! Also, many people think she's 'off'.
Yes, It was fixed. I was thinking fixed but said snipped...ugh.. I do that all the time, Sorry :S
I rewatched it... Wendy says" Okay you're on the fence about about marriage, what about more kids" Jon " No... we cant have more kids" and Wendy says " are you fixed?', Jon says , lower toned I might add, " ya, I'm fixed". Wendy says' Thats good!"
Okay moving on now...
Another thing I caught the second time is when they were talking aout Steve, and wendy said the height doesnt matter its all the same even when your lying down ( or something to that effect) and Jon says something while leaning back like he's lying down and being a paparazzi like this. I wonder if he was insinuating that Steve was kate's other papparazzi??? ( we all know Chris was the other)....
Anyways,
I think it was a great interview!!
Bad example. She's been charged with murder! Also, many people think she's 'off'.
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She was acquitted of murder, and is about to win her appeal. It's over, she's innocent, she's home.
What does being charged with anything have to do with anything? The point being, her parents, before and after the bogus charges and four year long witch hunt (when they CAUGHT the actual murderer and he confirmed Amanda was not there), always did a great job co-parenting. They did before, they did during, and they did after. And she loves them for it and recognized them for it in her book.
All of PA is woods lol. I always smile when Jon says house in the woods because who doesn't have a house in the woods there?
Most pet stores have a bird or 2 in large cages, away from rest to show the bird, which is outside of cage to show how tame the bird is.
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Not sure what pet stores you visit but PetLand and PetSmart have an open area with about 15 cockatiels quite near the entrance. Beside it are open areas for rabbits and gerbils. The parrots, out of their cages, are directly beside those areas.
I only wish they would both stop this tit for tat.
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Even though he did well with this interview I have to say I agree with you Greedy, it definitely really does feel like tit for tat right now. Tit for tat over and over again.
The problem is, Jon's tried everything and she just gets worse. I get the sense he's feeling like well for a normal person being silent would help calm the other parent down but for Kate she just gets worse when I'm silent so what's the point, might as well engage with her. It's not unlike here. Sometimes we see posts we'd really love to respond to but we refrain and just let it go scroll on by. And sometimes we're up to it and feel like engaging. I think he's in a "I feel like engaging" mood right now. He is engaging with her and seeing where it leads. Whether that's the right thing to do, who knows, but then I've never divorced a parental alienator.
I was thinking the long driveway might not be a long physical walk, but it sure is a long emotional walk for the kids. I think that is cruel to do to your children. With every step they are reminded of how much their parents hate each other.
Not every kid wants their parents to get back together but I'm guessing almost all kids want their parents to at least be civil.
" I have a house in the woods, and now I have another house in the woods" ...who knows why he has 2 houses. Maybe they decided to live together after Couples Therapy and the lease on the first house on the woods isnt up....
There is one question I wished Wendy would have asked him.... "Jon IYO has Kate's body , asides from her tummy tuck...been surgically enhanced????"
and yes, sadly , like Kate, I like ???...!!! and ......... ha ha
Milo is the kind of friend that Kate needs.
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Enablers like her are the last thing Kate needs! She needs people that will level with her and be honest with her. But whether Kate WANTS that is another matter. Clearly she is only interested in someone like Milo who will treat her like the princess she fancies herself to be and encourage the fantasy world she lives in.
I always liked what Prince William said about his Kate, he said he was tired of people always telling him how wonderful he was. He wanted someone who would challenge him, call him out, not be so fake around him. He found that in Kate and it's one reason he fell so in love with her.
I see a good friendship as like that passage that talks about how a man needs other men to sharpen him like iron sharpens iron. I always liked the sharpen analogy. I want friends who are supportive to some extent, but not to the point of delusion--I also want friends who will sharpen me even if the sharpening process might be a bit uncomfortable. Milo makes Kate the dull pencil that she is, she would never dare try to sharpen her. But at the end of the day, a dull pencil won't write and doesn't a good friend want you to write?
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@Kateplusmy8 @wendywilliams K8, Wendy said outright that Tony D said you are a mentally ill bitch. What do U say 2 that? U suck
What? Wendy said that? These darn speakers...all I could hear was Wendy saying that Tony said bad things about Kate and that she wanted to be treated like a princess. Did Wendy say that in the after-the-show segment?
In fact, tweets during viewing showed viewers commenting about how the show was a good form of birth control.
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That is funny Joy! Geez after watching Farrah and her mother for 42 minutes nobody wants kids.
Though I think less teen pregnancies has to do with good and easy birth control and abortion being more widespread, for what it's worth.
Thanks, Carole said... 153
I remember reading in places that people don't get paid for their interviews, only for pictures so that is why I wondered about it since I saw on some of their interviews that there were pics of the spouse shown also.
Whether that's the right thing to do, who knows, but then I've never divorced a parental alienator.
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It's not the right thing to do! My son would die of embarrassment if his father and I played the trashy talk show circuit arguing with one another. It's ridiculous for them both to continue to bait each other in the media, for FOUR years now.
I guess I expected more from Jon. He certainly seems like a nice man.
I am glad Jon did this interview solo without Liz. This is his rodeo and he was able to speak without any distractions.
He is very charming and has often said how much he loves his mother and grandmother. He seems to be family oriented. I really wish him the best and hope that his better qualities rub off on the children.
Jon said he and TFW put "8% of the gross of the income of the show for three years into trusts for them." He didn't say 80%. Because I DVR'd the show, I listened to that statement a couple of times to make sure I got it right. I'm sorry but that's not a lot of money considering if it wasn't for those kids there would be no show.
Even though Liz was supposed to be on the show I'm glad she wasn't. We wouldn't have gotten the same interview with her there as I think most of the interview would have been about Jon and Liz's relationship; Jon, Liz and TFW's relationship and CT. With only Jon there, the interview was focused pretty much entirely on him and TFW and very little with regard to Liz and CT. He gave a great interview and he's so much more articulate than TFW. Remember how she was alway correcting his grammer in their couch interviews? He certainly showed her up.
My take on Jon's interview with WW wasn't so much tit for tat, but more of a quiet acceptance that TFW will never move off her position of controlling their divorce the way she did their marriage. He knows her hatred toward him is hurting the children, but he seems resigned to her behaviour, yet determined to continue protecting them.
Can you imagine them being left outside the gate knowing their mother hates their father so much he cannot step on to the property. I agree with Admin, that would be an emotional walk to the front door. Surely, one of them has have to have asked her, "why can't daddy come through the gate"? What would her answer be, "cause daddy took you off television" The obvious reply would be, "but you got us back on, so why can't daddy come past the gate"?
Milo makes Kate the dull pencil that she is, she would never dare try to sharpen her. But at the end of the day, a dull pencil won't write and doesn't a good friend want you to write?
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Yes, and in a weird kind of passive-aggressive way, her platitudes and "words of wisdom" and encouragement always make it seem like Kate is down on her luck but she will rise above it. If Kate is such a strong person who is loved by everyone and is the perfect mother with eight adoring kids who think that the sun rises and sets on her, then why does Milo keep reminding her that there are better days ahead? It makes no sense.
Milo is the worst "friend" possible to Kate. They are two peas in a pod. Both egotistical, ME ME ME people who feed off each other. That is NOT what Kate needs.
I am glad Jon did this interview solo without Liz. This is his rodeo and he was able to speak without any distractions.
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I agree. As much as I think Liz's intentions are good, this is really Jon's fight.
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