Monday, December 16, 2013

Real Housewife's ex: The children are too young and 'do not understand the consequences' of Reality T.V.

"I will not sign the consent form for my eight-year-old daughter or my other children, to participate on the Shows, because I know the negative impact and consequences it will have on their health and well being."

Simon Barney has responded to his ex-wife's Tamra's bid to ask a judge to allow her to put their three children back on The Real Housewives of Orange County.

Portions of the response filed in Orange County family law court last Friday include the following:


“They have been targeted and are the subject of consistent embarrassment due to the content of the show and their mother’s involvement…The show (has) started to become increasingly more about the alcohol, intoxication, sex and bad behavior …. The truth is consistently manipulated in the show in order to make the story line more dramatic and to boost ratings. The manipulation and falsification of original statements and actions results in a negative perception from the public and it destroys one’s reputation….
"All major decisions pertaining to health, education and day care shall be made jointly by the parents. She is seeking to take away my right to parent and make decisions regarding the lasting effects and impacts the show may have on my children. This is not a unilateral ‘routine’ decision, it is a ‘major decision’ that must be made jointly….[Sophia is] too young [and] unable to make a decision on her own regarding her participation in the show as she does not understand the consequences it may have. Respondent states that Sophia has expressed her desire to be on the show, but that is only because Respondent has told Sophia that she has to sit out on all ‘fun’ activities because I won’t let her be filmed. An eight year old child us going to want to be a part of the activities is she is told they are ‘fun’ and she is being forced to sit out...
"…Our children appeared on the show from time to time, as one of the focuses on the show was out family and encouraged our familial relationship. The show first aired in 2005 and I appeared briefly on the show from 2007 to 2009. My children made appearances in those years, but with strict supervision and approval from me. If my children were to be on my show, I had stated to the production company… that I was to approve all footage and the children were only to be filmed with my supervision and presence.  At that time, (the production company) agreed. It was a good thing that I was on the show and supervising my children. One time while the show was being filmed, one of the cast members stated something about “T-Bagging” which is an inappropriate sexual comments, while Sidney, age 10 at the time, was present. I immediately took my daughter away and stated to the cast member that such comments were inappropriate while children were around. Later, he agreed that I was correct in needing to be present. It was around this time that the show deviated sharply from the family oriented dynamic it had while I was on the show [and was] the major reason I refused to allow the children to continue on the show....
"(The production company) will only air the footage of my minor children if I give my consent, or if the Court orders that only Respondent’s consent is required for the children to be filmed. I will not sign the consent form for my eight year old daughter or my other children, to participate on the Shows, because I know the negative impact and consequences it will have on their health and well being.”

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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

This actually presents an interesting legal question for California and it will be interesting to see what happens.

Simon is correct, Joint legal custody in CA means you share jointly the "major" decisions in a child's life, decisions like for health, education, day care (and he left out religion but maybe they're not religious). The legal question becomes does putting your child on reality T.V. constitute one of those major legal decisions such that you must both agree or a judge decides? Or is it a minor decision like whether to give a child an apple at lunch that one parent need not get consent from the other for or go to court over? Obviously I'm hoping the judge continues to find that Simon's consent is required.

Lalalalala said...

Being a child on a reality TV show is obviously life altering for that child. I admire Simon for fighting this. He gave excellent reasons for why the kids shouldn't be thrown into this circus-like atmosphere. Tamra should be ashamed of herself for even thinking that exposing the children to this is a good idea. It's self-centered on her part. Children do NOT belong in reality TV, EVER.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Emily Creighton ‏@EmCr68 1h
@Kateplusmy8 mammaG, check your emails soon! I just need to make sure you got it! :)
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This is the second time I've seen Em ask Kate to check her email. Yet Kate can't manage to reply to Em, and Kate just recently tweeted she checks her email every morning:

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 13 Dec
@rockingrandma I do that every am while I do emails etc.-he sits on my knee:) and he makes new chirp sounds almost daily! #willhetalksoon?

SeeSaw said...

Wow. How interesting that Tamra told her daughter she would miss out on all the "fun." Sounds exactly like someone we all know.

JoyinVirginia said...

This is a very interesting case, and it will be interesting to see the eventual ruling. The example given of Simon being present and being able to remove his child from inappropriate discussions or situations is a good one. it would be nice if the judge in Pennsylvania had listened to Jon about not filming his children.

jolie Jacquelyn said...

Re:Breaking Bad

Thanks to seeing the show referred to so often on this site , I binged non-stop on the entire 5 seasons. Loved it!

Now I'm watching Boardwalk Empire episodes almost daily. I was also a big Sopranos fan - couldn't get enough of that show.

My family is starting to think I'm a wee bit strange...

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Good for Simon, hope this works out in his favor.

But this:

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 13 Dec
@rockingrandma I do that every am while I do emails etc.-he sits on my knee:) and he makes new chirp sounds almost daily! #willhetalksoon?

This giddy over a bird thing is bizarre. So the kids leave for school and she plays with her new $$$ toy? Probably while she shops at Amazon. Another reason she can't have a job - bird raising now.

Tucker's Mom said...

SeeSaw said... 4
Wow. How interesting that Tamra told her daughter she would miss out on all the "fun." Sounds exactly like someone we all know.
*****
Yes, no filming=no fun, travel, freebies etc.
Of course, it's all Daddy's fault that they don't go anywhere anymore.
That's exactly why there was wailing x 8 when Kate told them the show was canceled. Why else would a 7-year old cry that cameras wouldn't be in their face?
Kate has also let it out of the bag that the children are very aware that the show paid the bills, the house, the school etc... because they asked if they'd still have all those things when the show was canceled, per Kate!
I'm sure Simon is also very aware of the commitments that are agreed to by the parent, for the children to perform, not get sick, not film.

Amy2 said...

Simon get's it. Parent's responsibility is to protect, not exploit children for fame and money. Good for him!

Millicent said...

While I remain unimpressed with either Simon or Tamra as human beings, in this instance, Simon is trying to do the right thing by his children. (Maybe he's doing it to spite Tamra, but the reason isn't actually important, if the goal is to keep those children off reality tv and protected from the public glare and other pitfalls of the process.) I think a good and fair family law judge would agree with Simon's argument that the decision to make your children part of a public spectacle such as a reality tv show, is indeed a "major" decision, and that both parents should agree on that decision.

Tamra has always been a gold digger, which is why she married Simon in the first place. She lucked out and got the RH gig, and finally got some money of her own. Of course she is desperately trying to ensure that money keep coming in, because once it stops, she's going to have to try to find another rich guy to latch onto. And in southern California, she'll be competing with countless younger versions of herself.

Millicent said...

I wanted to add in my 2 cents to the Amazon discussion on the last post - hope it's okay :)

I definitely read the reviews posted about various products, books, whatever before deciding whether to purchase. I am sure some of the reviews might be put their to promote the product (either by employees or paid reviewers), but if you take the time to read 10 or more reviews, you can get a feel for which ones are definitely genuine. Some people really leave long, detailed reviews.

I also had a minor problem just today with an Amazon order. I have a new credit card, which I had added to my account 2 months ago. At the time, I thought I de-activated the old card, but apparently not. So my orders were "declined" because my payment method was no longer valid. I couldn't work it out on the website, so I asked for an Amazon rep to call my office. That happened within one minute, and a pleasant rep helped me fix the problem in no time.

There are some downsides to Amazon, but their customer service is usually stellar. That's sadly getting less and less common with retailers, so I appreciate it very much.

Formerly Duped said...

Millicent, I totally agree with you about Amazon's customer service. They do get back to you immediately and often fix a problem in the customer's favor, such as free shipping even with a cancelled item or returned goods. I also agree this is very rare! How often do you get a 'live' person and straight away, too, whether a retail query or a medical or insurance or so on?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

This is an example of no amount of money being enough for some people. Tamra's a millionaire both from Real Housewives and other ventures. She doesn't need the kids for money. But greed makes her want more and more such that she'll sacrifice their privacy and well being to have it. Sick and sad.

The Empress Has New Clothes said...

I agree that Tamra's a striver--her stint on RH makes that abundantly clear. Maybe a gold-digger, too, although Eddie's not exactly rolling in the dough. And while she's raking in the dough from RH and various enterprises (not the gym, which rumor has it isn't faring very well), I seriously doubt she's a millionaire, though she'd probably like us to think so.

More to the point of this blog: Her lawsuit suggests that Tamra's willing to sacrifice her kids at the altar of fame and fortune. It's beyond the realm of what I'd call good mothering. That much, I know for sure.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Most of the Housewives salaries were leaked earlier this year by OK magazine. They are reportedly accurate. Tamra made 325,000 an episode. She's been on the show for five seasons. There's no reason she should not be a multi millionaire times ten at that rate. That's more than 3 million a season.

The Empress Has New Clothes said...

Maybe OK is right. I drew my conclusions from the fact that she rented a lower-end South OC condo when she separated from Simon. That, and the fact that she said on-air the amount she had available to invest in her fitness studio. It wasn't much.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Like most rich people she probably has a great deal of her millions tied up in stocks and other investments. Actual liquid cash you can just pull out may not be that accessible. Also a lot of rich people are extremely stingy and will do things like rent cheap condos. She may have also been doing it for appearances, I.e. to project an Image Simon left her destitute. In any case I believe OK's numbers. They did a whole investigation into the salaries and obtained almost everyone's.

capecodmama said...

Tamra has a story line with her new marriage and her fitness studio so she doesn't need to drag her kids into her drama. I always thought Simon was very controlling with Tamra so I wasn't surprised when they divorced. In my opinion the worst one on the show is Vicky. Everything that happens with her is never her fault. Deflect, deflect, deflect.

capecodmama said...

Admin., I think Tamra made $325,000 per season, not episode.

Lalalalala said...

Another Reality TV ho crying poor. Sound familiar?

general charity info said...

The American Red Cross
President and CEO Marsha J. Evans'
salary for the year was $651,957 plus expenses

If you're looking to give this holiday:

1.The American Red Cross
President and CEO Marsha J. Evans'
salary for the year was $651,957 plus expenses

2.MARCH OF DIMES
It is called the March of Dimes because
only a dime for every 1 dollar is given to the needy .

3. UNICEF CEO Caryl M. Stern receives
$1,200,000 per year (100k per month) plus all expenses including a ROLLS ROYCE.
Less than 5 cents of your donated dollar goes to the cause.

4. GOODWILL CEO and owner Mark Curran profits $2.3 million a year. Goodwill is a very catchy name for his business.
You donate to his business and then he sells the items for PROFIT.
He pays nothing for his products and pays his workers minimum wage! Nice Guy.
$0.00 goes to help anyone!
Stop giving to this man.

general charity info said...

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on dollar organization. 96 percent of donated dollars go to the cause.

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Your donations go to help Veterans and their families and youth!

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cont'd....

general charity info said...

5. The Vietnam Veterans Association National Commander receives a $0.00 zero salary.
Your donations go to help Veterans and their families and youth!

6. Make a Wish: For children's last wishes.
100% goes to funding trips or special wishes for a dying child.

7. St. Jude Research Hospital:
100% goes towards funding and helping Children with Cancer who have no insurance and cannot afford to pay.

8. Ronald McDonald Houses:
All monies go to running the houses for parents who have critical children in the hospital.
100% goes to housing, and feeding the families.

9. Lions Club International:
100% OF DONATIONS GO TO HELP THE BLIND,BUY HEARING AIDES, SUPPORT MEDICAL MISSIONS AROUND THE WORLD.

foxy said...

Kate said that recently she told a friend that if Amazon was a man she would marry him because he has it all. Didn't someone post that same thing here a day or so ago? Maybe she does read here. I did not know she had a friend. hmmmmmmm

Over And Out said...

Cristina Rich ‏@Sienna_Star 39m
@1shoremama @Kateplusmy8 I'm going to make the Asian Pears & Pork Chops for dinner 2nite. I'm cooking it on the broiler.

1shoremama ‏@1shoremama 35m
@Sienna_Star @Kateplusmy8 Can't wait 2try that recipe!Actually just bought pears last nite 2make that dish this week!Lemme know it turns out

Uh, oh. I hope they have a dog who likes it!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

How do you cook something "on" the broiler? Oh dear. You can cook something under the broiler or I suppose "in" the broiler, but on? It's a reverse grill, there is no putting anything "on" it!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Lalalalala said... 20
Another Reality TV ho crying poor. Sound familiar?

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Yes it is per season, still a boatload of money. More than most of us will ever make in a lifetime. Two lifetimes.

What is with these people? Who would feel sympathy for them? And yet sheeple do. It's craziness. You made more than a quarter million just to screw around for a handful of episodes. Then you made it again a few months later. With proper money management there's no reason anyone would ever have to worry about another dime again. Yet they go around crying woe is me. It's truly unbelievable.

Over And Out said...

How do you cook something "on" the broiler? Oh dear. You can cook something under the broiler or I suppose "in" the broiler, but on? It's a reverse grill, there is no putting anything "on" it!

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I guess you could put the chops on the broiler pan and then put the broiler pan in the oven and broil the chops. I don't think, though, that would be following Kate's instructions...it's a crockpot recipe.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

What? Cooking something in the broiler is night and day from a crockpot meal. How is that following the recipe? One is a slow cook process the other is lightning fast. Two totally different processes that will produce two completely different results.

Most of the time the sheeple tweets don't much interest me but I do think it's funny all of them who tweet about "following" Kate's recipes then they change them so drastically who could say it's the same? LOL!

Over And Out said...

3. UNICEF CEO Caryl M. Stern receives
$1,200,000 per year (100k per month) plus all expenses including a ROLLS ROYCE.
Less than 5 cents of your donated dollar goes to the cause.

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Does anyone remember the Unicef fiasco -- something like 60 million dollars was funneled to Communist countries, including the Viet Cong, and the government of those countries used the funds to do with as they pleased? This was uncovered during its annual Trick Or Treat For Unicef campaign during the Vietnam War..

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Over And Out said... 28
How do you cook something "on" the broiler? Oh dear. You can cook something under the broiler or I suppose "in" the broiler, but on? It's a reverse grill, there is no putting anything "on" it!

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I guess you could put the chops on the broiler pan and then put the broiler pan in the oven and broil the chops. I don't think, though, that would be following Kate's instructions...it's a crockpot recipe.
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Or it could be a typo.

I've seen several tweet they're making Kate's recipe of something, but they're changing it in one way or another.

Over And Out said...

Isn't this kind of a dumb thing to tweet to Kate? I don't think she imagines herself ever to have fallen down.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 37m
@Kateplusmy8 U always do this very very well! No one can ever keep U down...>> pic.twitter.com/lLt7capTYC

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Real Housewives has been on eight season and is still going strong. It will likely continue for many more seasons to come and there's no rumor of Tamra leaving anytime soon. She is a popular character.

She has made almost 2 million so far and it goes on. This does not even begin to count all the other projects she has taken on as a direct result of her fame from the show. Yes, it is more money than most people will make in a lifetime, anonymous, nothing disingenuous about it.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Isn't this kind of a dumb thing to tweet to Kate? I don't think she imagines herself ever to have fallen down.

&&&

Milo is a master of the backhanded, though unintended, compliment!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I would be kind of put out I think if I published a recipe book but everyone who made the recipes always tweaked them! It's kind of head scratching in a way. Why are the recipes always being tweaked, I'd wonder. Obviously maybe something is wrong with them, I'd think.

Charity Info Is Untrue said...

I really don't think it is appropriate for people to be pitching for their personal favorite charities, but if those lists are going to be provided at least the information should be accurate. General Charity Info's is anything but. For example:

1) Make A Wish Foundation -- 100% of $ does not go to granting wishes. CEO compensation: $365,587 + $81,393 bonus. Marketing costs: 1.679 million. Accounting costs: 1.6 million. Etc., etc.

2) St. Jude's -- 10 employees earned $500,000 or more in salaries plus retirement and other compensation

3) Ronald McDonald Houses -- There are hundreds of them and staff are paid. It is untrue that 100% of revenues go to housing. For example, CEO of Ronald McDonald House of NY earns almost 400K per year.

I am not suggesting that these organizations are not worthy of support based on their executive's salaries. I do, however, think it is unfair to suggest that Charity A shouldn't be supported because the CEO is well compensated and then list Charity B as one to support, when in fact Charity B's CEO also is well compensated.
(Source: 2011 990s courtesy of Guidestar)

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Everything but the smallest charities are going to have some overhead.
It's always kind of confused me why people get so upset about overhead. As long as the overhead is reasonable to what the charity accomplishes, it shouldn't be a big deal. When it crosses the line beyond what is reasonable that's another matter. But people need to be paid if you want the kind of skills necessary to head up some of the bigger more complicated charities. I don't have a problem with a CEO making X amount of dollars if what they are accomplishing is worth that same amount of money.

Rainbirdie said...

Why would it be so important to Tamra to have her kids on the show? She's done the family, separation & divorce, hot new man, wedding & start a new business storylines. If she goes back to family mom, will she get more 'face time'? (I do think that camera time is the ultimate goal of each & every housewife...thus the numerous tantrums.) However, I'm guessing that if the kids are on the show, then the kids get a paycheck and thats a huge motivating factor too.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I also think private charities often accomplish more than public ones, and compared to government overhead spending their overhead spending is peanuts.

Let the free market decide what is a fair salary (and other expenses) for those who head up great private charities. That may be 400,000, which sounds outrageous but at least it is a fair market number that corresponds to their skills and accomplishments. If we don't pay fairly, that person may go to some company that is not a charity, and in many cases that is a big loss. The resume of most of these CEOs are usually impressive. Many have worked for presidents, or other big respected companies. You can't just find these people from volunteers off the street. I personally have had a heart for the Red Cross for over a decade now, but I have no business helping to run the company. I am not skilled for such a thing no matter how much I love that charity. I have a bigger problem with a Real Housewife making a similar salary who is unskilled and not accomplishing anything but a heck of a lot of candles I've had to light for you ladies who've never seen it!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Rain, I don't quite understand it either unless she is just feeling desperate to provide something new to film. Or maybe wants to be seen as a good mom. Real Housewives has actually never really been about the kids. At least not in the past five years or so. Occasionally some of the OLDER kids, like older teens, might have a bit of screen time but her kids are still pretty young.

They follow a format of putting the ladies in the same room and watching the fights and confrontations ensue, usually about who said what behind whose back. This goes on for an hour, then is continued at the next episode for another hour. And so it goes! An eight year old child doesn't really add much to the "drama." They just don't "fit" into the current format, so I don't know what she is so worried about. Kim and Kyle Richards both have kids and they are on the show. But I don't even remember their names. Kyle's youngest about four is just sort of there. She had a birthday party once on the show, but most of the filming was about the adults fighting at the party. The child maybe got a minute of screen time. It is in no way shape or form filmed in the manner of Jon and Kate Plus 8 where the focus really was the kids and revolved around the kids' stories, personalities, etc.

The Empress Has New Clothes said...

It's the ratio of income to resource distribution that matters, in my book, as well as their oversight policies & procedures. See also: the alignment of promises made with that of people/animals/institutions actually served. So, in short, a CEOs image in the private sector matters less to me than their integrity. Very infrequently are they the face or voice of a charity, anyway…unless trouble's brewing.

And as for Tamra, this past season was the first in a long while where she was perceived as marginally likable. I suspect she's wanting to continue that trend, in which case she might want to promote herself as a down-home mom. Side benefits = more money, of course. Kids for the win!

Susie Cincinnati said...

Sheeple really have that bar set low, don't they? It doesn't take much to impress them!

1shoremama ‏@1shoremama 9m
@beckyindurbin @Kateplusmy8 lol..great cookbook 4any1 especially moms,recipes r not over the top,yummy variety of meals+fun2read&great pics!

capecodmama said...

Rainbirdie...38

I don't think Tamra's kids would be paid if they were on the show. A few years ago, Teresa from RHONJ was having a fit and falling in it because her four young kids were not being compensated for being on the show but Caroline Manzo's kids (also RHONJ) who were in their twenties were being compensated at $20,000. each per season. Teresa didn't think that was fair. If I recall, Bravo said something along the lines of they don't compensate the young kids but they do the older ones because they can add to the story line.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I'm not sure how Bravo gets away with that in California with Orange County and Beverly Hills since California law REQUIRES that reality T.V. kids be compensated. I remember this was brought up before TLC was paying the kids but they brought them out to California I think to San Diego to the zoos. More than likely, they broke CA law by not paying them during that time. But if no one ever pursues it they got away with it.

That might explain Tamra's motivations, money and greed. She would get additional salaries times three if her three kids participated. Probably not 325,000, but it would be a fair amount. Granted, a portion of it has to go into a Coogan trust, but the rest is Tamra's to squander.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


It's the ratio of income to resource distribution that matters, in my book, as well as their oversight policies & procedures

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More or less how I see it. If a CEO makes 400,000 a year, but the charity gives back 400 million, that's a pretty good return. And actually, if you average it out percentage wise, you could make a fair argument that a CEO at a much smaller charity that makes 40,000, but the charity is only giving back 100,000 a year, is a much worse and more troubling situation, as they are making 40% of what the charity gives out in total. Yet I don't think anyone would begrudge a CEO 40,000.

Over And Out said...

Cristina Rich ‏@Sienna_Star 12m
@1shoremama OMG! It was soooo good! My hubby even loved it. I cooked it in a frying pan. It worked well. @Kateplusmy8

lol!! Well, I guess the broiler didn't work out and she cooked it in a frying pan even though it is a slow-cooker recipe. Looks like the dog wasn't given a chance to sample it!

Over And Out said...

Push the panic button. Sound the alarm. Ring those bells. Sheeple to their stations. File that missing person report. Gladys can't find Kate!

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 56m
@Kateplusmy8 @amazon Ok, now I'm worried! Did #MrAmazon sweep you off ur feet? #Wink :)

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Mr Amazon? Oh no.

Hey maybe Mr. Amazon and Grow a Boyfriend in their quest to woo Kate to no avail sort of started to notice each other and one thing led to another....

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Hey maybe Mr. Amazon and Grow a Boyfriend in their quest to woo Kate to no avail sort of started to notice each other and one thing led to another....

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Woo? lol! Remember how concerned Milo was with Kate's "prospective suitors?" She's just added another one to the list.

Whatever happened to Irish Fan? Is he wooing elsewhere, or did he, Mr. Amazon and Grow A Boyfriend find one another? That's getting to be a Full House!

Suzee said...

Radar Online has posted a copy of the "participation" contract the housewives sign.

They are crazy for knowingly signing these exploitative contracts. SMH
One clause states "“the right to record my voice using concealed devices while I am talking on the telephone. TAPE AND AUDIO RECORDINGS OF MY VOICE AND STATEMENTS WHILE I AM ON THE TELEPHONE AND THE ACTIONS AND STATEMENTS OF THE OTHER PARTICIPANTS WHILE THEY ARE ON THE TELEPHONE MAY ME MADE USING SUCH RECORDING DEVICES, AND OTHER DEVICES LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE LOCATIONS, INCLUDING AREAS IN WHICH A PERSON UNDER OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES MIGHT HAVE A REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY.”

http://amradaronline.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/contractwife.pdf

SwingsandRoundabouts said...

general charity info @22&23
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A quick check at snopes.com shows this info to be mostly outdated and incorrect.

The Empress Has New Clothes said...

Hey, I just had a crazy thought. Or maybe it's not so crazy after all…

TFW rarely gives any one person or business a positive nod, w/o there being a payoff of some sort for her. And yet, she's singled out one online distributor for praise. So...maybe she's taken to tweeting positive things about Amazon because she wants them to sustain their embargo on RHs e-book, now that her lawsuit's been dismissed. Or maybe she's trying to get/stay in their good graces while RH's updated book is being vetted legal eagles. Something along those lines, anyway…otherwise, how to explain her over-the-top tweets about Amazon being marriage material, were it a man? lol

capecodmama said...

Admin...44

Good point. I forgot about CA's child star laws.

JoyinVirginia said...

The last post talked about the fake Penn Mom story, and I finally read about it at the Penn Mom Rosetta Stone site. That led me to reading about the Razing Ruth site, and the many many other sock accounts of this person. It had to be some type of psychological disposer, to make a person spend so much time and energy creating a fictitious persona for themselves on the interwebs, along with an entire supporting cast. Wow! thanks to the posters here who recommended that story. It would make a good novel, maybe even a lifetime movie.

TLC stinks said...

Who is the new 1shoremama that is in love with Kate's cooking? Milo's alter ego?

TLC stinks said...

Go read 1shoremama tweets. Only 254 tweets and talks like a foodie. I think this person does not exist even though there's a family picture posted. Really going overboard with Kate and Kate retweets her compliments. Set up?

gep said...

otherwise, how to explain her over-the-top tweets about Amazon being marriage material, were it a man? lol

Maybe she really just likes Amazon or she's trying to grift the annual Prime membership fee of $79. It's a long shot for her but maybe she has dreams of becoming a spokesperson for them...you know, "busy mom of 8, blah, blah, blah finds time to shop Amazon." I would hope that Amazon (or anyone else) would ask themselves "Busy doing what?". The kids are in school and she doesn't have a job. I guess she's busy going online and ordering from Amazon. I doubt that Amazon is even paying attention to her tweets. I'd pay more attention to regular mom on a commercial saying that because of Amazon and their great prices she can afford a better Christmas this year.

Mel said...

There are so many issues with donating. One organization might have the most money go to the needy but they're anti-gay. Another might only help the arts, but not vets. And on and on. They are free to choose who they want to help; I'm free to choose who I donate to.

For me, I choose to help locally in ways where I know 100% of what I give goes to help someone. I watch for those people. An obviously poor man helping his elderly mother at the grocery store finds his grocery bill paid. And a few extra fun items in his bag of groceries. Sometimes I'll give him $20 bucks for gas.
A little old lady at the nursing home who has no relatives finds me being her advocate. The old man struggling across an icy parking lot to Walgreen's finds me lending a sturdy arm, and an offer to help him in the store.
A fun thing to do is to take a day and warmly smile at everyone you come across. People's faces just light up when they see you. Especially people not used to getting a warm smile from strangers.
Another fun thing to do is watch for struggling people, walk up to them and ask in a kindly way, 'Can I help?'

Lalalalala said...

I would like to ask these women who sell their soul's to Reality TV how much their dignity is worth and why they sell it. They seem to have no personal pride.

willowmom said...

Kind of funny, too, that particular recipe was reviewed here in the last couple of days.

Tucker's Mom said...

TLC stinks said... 56
Go read 1shoremama tweets. Only 254 tweets and talks like a foodie. I think this person does not exist even though there's a family picture posted. Really going overboard with Kate and Kate retweets her compliments. Set up?
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I don't think it's a set up. This shoremama seems to be very food-centric and likes to fart rainbows with lots of !!!!!!! and :);););):):):)
Blech.
Pablum.
#getahobby

Layla said...

Over And Out said... 46
Cristina Rich ‏@Sienna_Star 12m
@1shoremama OMG! It was soooo good! My hubby even loved it. I cooked it in a frying pan. It worked well. @Kateplusmy8

lol!! Well, I guess the broiler didn't work out and she cooked it in a frying pan even though it is a slow-cooker recipe. Looks like the dog wasn't given a chance to sample it!

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Isn't it interesting how suddenly one of TFW's sheep decided to make the exact same recipe I reviewed here, and give it a glowing review on Twitter. Damage control, perhaps? Whatever--that recipe was nasty.

Insert Creative Username Here said...

Charity Navigator is a pretty good place to find out info about a charity (especially big, well known ones). I only did a couple (because I have a life), but if you want to know more you can go here: www.charitynavigator.org

The American Red Cross: 3/4 stars
March of Dimes: 2/4 stars
UNICEF: 4/4 stars
Make a Wish: 3/4 stars
Ronald McDonald Houses: 4/4 stars

The person who posted the charity postings most likely got that info from facebook, which I've seen before. Always double check info you get from facebook.

Tucker's Mom said...

Mel said... 58
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Great post.
We have organizations that get our major donations, but we also give locally.
Last week, I was shopping at Macys. Great sales, Doorbusters etc. I had my coupons all lined up to get further discounts.
I was in line and the woman in front of me was checking out and the cashier asked her if she had any coupons. She said she didn't, but wished she did like me (I had at least a half dozen).
I saw I had a "Wow" pass that is good for repeated use all day, and offered to have the cashier scan it for her, since it didn't need a Macy's charge to work.
The woman got $20 off her purchase and thanked me.
Really, it made my day.

JoyinVirginia said...

The dh and I belong to a club that, years back, started donating bicycles for children to local Christmas Mother program. Every county or city in our region has one volunteer spokesperson for their local Christmas mother, to help gather donations for families in need, done thru social services and local churches. The effort has grown over the years, and this year they raised enough money to get over 200 bicycles. Walmart sells the bikes unassembled to the club for a significant discount, volunteers put the bicycles together and deliver to social services along with helmets. Its great, and every years there are lots of volunteer mechanics at the assembly party!

Lalalalala said...

Tucker's Mom said... 64

I do that too, Tucker's Mom. Whenever I'm at Bed, Bath and Beyond I always offer coupons to the people behind and in front of me. I have a million of them and they never expire. It really makes people's day and makes me feel good that I could save them some money.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

I was reading a newspaper article the other day about former football players, retired, who are moving into sports broadcasting. It was about the coaching they have to get to be in front of a camera, since playing the game is not anything like talking about the game. Made me think of TFW, who really needed something like this if she was ever serious about talking in front of a camera. Which goes back to the fact that she would never do the work it requires to be successful - doesn't get it, refuses to do it. Nobody just gets a job in media without training, either through education or on the job training. Private coaching would have also been a step in the right direction. No, she's still waiting for someone to drop a cushy job in her lap, but as these athletes are finding out, you DO need the training to do this work. Maybe the bird will teach her.

Dmasy said...

Thanks for all the reminders of how we can be kind in simple ways.

Orange, "Maybe the bird can teach her." You are funny!

localyocul said...

Layla said... 62
Over And Out said... 46
Cristina Rich ‏@Sienna_Star 12m
@1shoremama OMG! It was soooo good! My hubby even loved it. I cooked it in a frying pan. It worked well. @Kateplusmy8

lol!! Well, I guess the broiler didn't work out and she cooked it in a frying pan even though it is a slow-cooker recipe. Looks like the dog wasn't given a chance to sample it!

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Isn't it interesting how suddenly one of TFW's sheep decided to make the exact same recipe I reviewed here, and give it a glowing review on Twitter. Damage control, perhaps? Whatever--that recipe was nasty

(((((((

I had the same exact thought. She probably didn't even make it. Or maybe you should have used a frying pan. ;)

Formerly Duped said...

Mel said... 58
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Mel, that's fantastic. Santa will surely visit you! I wish more people did as you do.I try to do similar and it's nice to see others smile.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

The contract is Tamra's contract, leaked by Simon as part of his court documents. It shows how incredibly restrictive filming is, Bravo basically said if you get hurt mentally or physically it is not our fault. Well played Simon, Tamra must be FUMING! Too bad Jon wasn't this savvy.

http://amradaronline.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/contractwife.pdf

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Here's another part, until you film 75% of the season if you quit, you have to return ALL your salary!

Is that even legal?

Basically that is blackmailing you into continuing something that may have become very detrimental for you because if you don't, that's 300,000 out the window. What if you're about to have a nervous breakdown and really need to stop? You've lost all that money. Or you can continue in a compromised mental state. Not very good options.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Just curious - did TFW tweet anything about the passing of Nelson Mandela? As someone who once tweeted South Africa was her "omg, don't make me cry!" bucket list dream destination, I would assume she mentioned it.

Anonymous said...

Uh, all the "Mr. Amazon" comments...does everyone remember that an Amazon is a woman?

On the Tamra subject, I'm thinking a little outside the box on this one. Does this mean that there can be no camera crews on the property when the child is present? Perhaps Tamra's job would be in jeopardy if this were the case. The film/production crews are on a schedule and may not be able to accommodate a court order. Since the show focuses on the "housewives", I don't see the harm in the children being on the periphery. (RHONJ features too much of the Guidice children, IMO) As to the crew making inappropriate remarks in front of children, perhaps some sensitivity training is in order. IMO, Simon's treatment of women is something I find more concerning. This is all about power over his ex.

PJ

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I don't know I think if this were about power over his ex there are a lot of other worse things he could do like file for full custody, which is what Kate did. I think his statements about why he didn't want the kids on tv were reasonable and intelligent and sincere. I didn't detect revenge. Rather I saw a father with incredibly legitimate concerns. That show is a hot mess. Any father should be concerned even one who isn't someone Id be friends with.

JoyinVirginia said...

Orange crusher, that is interesting and true about athletes. There is a reason every season of DWTS has athlete or ESPN sports caster. Since Disney owns ABC and ESPN, the synergy is there. gets the sports fans to watch the athlete in a different setting. Get the DWTS viewers to become interested in the sport, or watching the athlete on espn.
can you imagine the disappointment and/ or anger, at TFMJG, from whoever advocated for her to be on DWTS for her then to waste the opportunity? She got a lot of publicity while on the show. And it demonstrated how hard she was to work with.

Knows Quality said...

general charity info said... 21

If you're looking to give this holiday:

1.The American Red Cross
President and CEO Marsha J. Evans'
salary for the year was $651,957 plus expenses

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Um…not true. Marsha Evans hasn't even BEEN the CEO of the American Red Cross since 2005…that's 8 years ago.

Only 9 cents of each dollar donated is used for overhead and administrative costs, as it is a volunteer-driven organization.

Sorry. Just had to point out the inaccuracies of the previous post.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Just curious - did TFW tweet anything about the passing of Nelson Mandela? As someone who once tweeted South Africa was her "omg, don't make me cry!" bucket list dream destination, I would assume she mentioned it.

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What makes you think that she would know who he was?

Millicent said...

PJ said:
IMO, Simon's treatment of women is something I find more concerning. This is all about power over his ex.
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As I stated in an earlier comment, when I watched this show years ago (at a time when Simon and Tamra were still married and both on the show), I didn't like either of them. They both came across as shallow and self-serving, and I felt they were quite well suited for one another.

However, there is an old saying that comes to mind. "Even a broken clock is right twice a day." In this case, regardless of what I think of Simon or his possible ulterior motives for fighting to keep his children off this trash show, the goal he is seeking is a good goal. Therefore, I support him in this particular court fight. There is no good or valid reason for the minor children to participate in this show (it truly is trash tv).

If this is Tamra's job, then she ought to do what other working moms do with their children when working - find daycare for them. I worked out of my home for several years when my child was young, and I had to have uninterrupted time and quiet in the background (I was on the phone a lot). So I put my son in a lovely family daycare situation for four hours per day. Why can't Tamra do something similar? (Plus, I believe the daughter in question is of school age, and therefore ought to be in school during much of the filming time.)

Sheri said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...(72)

"Here's another part, until you film 75% of the season if you quit, you have to return ALL your salary!

Is that even legal?

Basically that is blackmailing you into continuing something that may have become very detrimental for you because if you don't, that's 300,000 out the window. What if you're about to have a nervous breakdown and really need to stop? You've lost all that money. Or you can continue in a compromised mental state. Not very good options."

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I suppose if it's in the contract and the contract is read and signed, then yes, it's totally legal.

Morally however, is it right? My opinion is no, absolutely not. But we're talking reality t.v. and of its producers who are this generation's P.T. Barnum.

If there are people out there willing to concede to such conditions then who's to say they shouldn't? Whatever, it's your psyche and mental health at stake.

What we need to remind ourselves, and them, is that children don't have the cognitive or reasoning abilities to make the same decision and no one, not even their parents, has the right to subject minor children to such a situation.

How many adults need to lose their shit as a result of being involved in reality t.v. before we just flat out insist that the same dangers, and perhaps even worse as they are still developing, are too great a risk to have children involved?

I know nothing about the RH franchise other than it about as real as Kate's "realest reality show" so I don't know anything about this couple.

What I do know is that I applaud the dad for standing up for his children and not letting his ex-wife exploit them.



Millicent said...

OrangeCrusher1 said... 67

I was reading a newspaper article the other day about former football players, retired, who are moving into sports broadcasting. It was about the coaching they have to get to be in front of a camera, since playing the game is not anything like talking about the game. Made me think of TFW, who really needed something like this if she was ever serious about talking in front of a camera. Which goes back to the fact that she would never do the work it requires to be successful - doesn't get it, refuses to do it. Nobody just gets a job in media without training, either through education or on the job training.
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Okay, I wonder if anyone else remembers an old Seinfeld episode where George is wondering why he can't get a job as a sports announcers, because he makes colorful remarks whenever he's watching a game, and Jerry points out that most of those jobs go to former athletes or people in broadcasting. LOL

But back to the main point, which is that most professional athletes are driven individuals, who have already demonstrated their willingness to put in hours of hard work to achieve goals. Like most of the athletes who compete on DWTS, they take the challenge seriously and will usually throw themselves into mastering the techniques needed to succeed.

I believe Kate was driven at one time, and formulated a plan loosely based on another family who had multiples and became famous. I think she schemed and finagled and got lucky in her timing, and ended up with sextuplets and soon after that, a tv show. But once that occurred, her one life's goal was met and she wanted to rest on her laurels. For her, it wasn't about bringing out the best in herself in order to achieve.

In fact, her way has always been to take shortcuts, to push others to do things for her, and to take credit where credit is most definitely not due.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

If I recall, the frying pan pork chop cook is the fan who was having her birthday party at an American Girl store, and the one who went out and bought Calico Critters for herself to play with after Kate tweeted how fascinated the kids are with them. However, it's not a teen, but a married adult. At least I think that's the same sheeple. I get them mixed up sometimes! But, they are funny.

So, local, I shouldn't put the pork chops on our dinner menu for the week?

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Lauren ‏@ljohnson2006 16m
For Christmas i would love for people to leave @Kateplusmy8 and her family alone. Let her live her life as she is. #teamkate8

I laughed out loud at this one. Exactly how IS she?

LisaNH said...

Tucker's Mom and lalalalal, that reminds me of a comical story. A few months ago I was at Dunkins and was placing my order. While I waited, I noticed a soldier in uniform one person behind me. So I said to the clerk, that I wanted to pay for whatever the soldier was ordering and handed the clerk $10. I had to move down the line to the pick up area to get my order and I was getting nervous because the clerk was taking his time (I wanted to get out of there before the soldier relized I was the one paying for his order). So finally the clerk brings my coffees and I rush out the door and as I'm leaving I hear the clerk shout "Miss, your change, you forgot your change!" LOL. Here I am trying to be annoymous and the clerk is shouting across the shop at me. LOL. I just waved off the clerk and scooted out the door and got in my vehicle as fast as I could before the soldier came out.

URL said...

I don't watch the Housewives franchise, but I watched an episode of the NJ Housewives one time and it was the episode where the wife that is up for serious federal fraud criminal charges with her husband, and she flipped out and threw a table over during a dinner in a restaurant and her children were also there filming. I thought that was beyond awful. They also both deserve jail time. I feel bad for their young children, but if you screw the government, then you pay the time.

Also regarding Amazon, do people realize that they sell porn? It just seems odd to me that someone can order baby merchandise and then search for adult entertainment and purchase porn videos and add sex toys to their site in one stop shopping? The adult entertainment isn't something that isn't advertised or even promoted, but there is plenty of it for sale on Amazon.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Um…not true. Marsha Evans hasn't even BEEN the CEO of the American Red Cross since 2005…that's 8 years ago.

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It was most likely an old story that the poster pulled up and she/he didn't say what year it was...only that it was "for the year.:"

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Sherry fortunately contracts that require you to do an illegal act such as violate labor laws are generally voidable. You can't contract to do something illegal even if you signed. I totally agree about kids not having the capacity to consent to such restrictions even if they are legal.

Kate is a twit said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 15 Dec
Recently, I told a friend 'If @amazon was a man, I'd marry him in a minute! He's got it all!'
Hahaha! I order daily..and find it all! :)

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So Kate uses Amazon and "finds it all"? Isn't this contradicting her own coupon site that lists multiple vendors? In the tweet she's basically endorsing going to Amazon for all your shopping needs.

So she wants her fans to use her coupon site, but in the meantime she's promoting Amazon. As usual, she makes no sense.

She hasn't updated her blog on her coupon site about how she saves using coupons-there's been nothing posted since the site opened. Whatever happened to her sharing how she saved on coupons deals? She was even supposed to share her fans stories about how they saved, too.

I think that the coupon site was just another one of her shiny new toys, that she played with for about a minute and then promptly put it out of her mind.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Also regarding Amazon, do people realize that they sell porn? It just seems odd to me that someone can order baby merchandise and then search for adult entertainment and purchase porn videos and add sex toys to their site in one stop shopping? The adult entertainment isn't something that isn't advertised or even promoted, but there is plenty of it for sale on Amazon.

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...and you know this HOW? LOL!!

URL said...

I also hope that TFW's poor parrot won't end up being trained as an ornament or the tree topper for her Christmas tree. I'm also assuming Shoka will receive his gifts in the basement or in his dog house. The poor dog will not be invited inside with the kids because of that parrot. I doubt he'll be allowed to mingle upstairs with the family.

Sarah_Sue said...

Fleecing The Sheeple said... 89

Also regarding Amazon, do people realize that they sell porn? It just seems odd to me that someone can order baby merchandise and then search for adult entertainment and purchase porn videos and add sex toys to their site in one stop shopping? The adult entertainment isn't something that isn't advertised or even promoted, but there is plenty of it for sale on Amazon.

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...and you know this HOW? LOL!!

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I fell on the ice last week and hurt my back, pulling some muscles. Imagine my disappointment when I discovered my, uh, "massage device" had bit the dust.

NOW I know where to find a replacement AND find a gift for an upcoming baby shower.

Thanks URL!

Layla said...

Localyokul (69) said....
I had the same exact thought. She probably didn't even make it. Or maybe you should have used a frying pan. ;)
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Silly me, following the recipe exactly as it was written. Actually, the pork chops were browned in a frying pan before going into the slow cooker. I doubt that the method of cooking would have made much, if any, difference. I'm done with her recipes. They're all either "borrowed" from the internet or they taste terrible. I'm going back to my Barefoot Contessa (Ina Garten) cookbooks. Now, there's a great cook.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 56m
SNOW, PLEASE STOP!
There's been a mix up&we got Utah or Wyoming's...NO, it's THE NORTH POLE's weather this year! #constantsnow

Oh, Kate, for heaven's sakes. It wasn't even a dusting this time. It was a clipper that clipped right through here and the roads were only wet. Schools were on a two-hour delay, but that's only because forecasters weren't sure if it would be through in time for the morning commute. It was. Snow was over by 6 a.m. You probably only saw the tail end of flurries. It wasn't even a measurable snow.
Such drama!

Amy2 said...

LisaNH said... 84
That was a wonderful and funny story. I am so glad that stories are being told of helping our veterans and soldiers. There was a time in our history that veterans weren't acknowledged for their efforts. It's wonderful to see that times they are a changing (to quote Bob Dylan).

PA Dutch Mom said...

Oh, and by the way, Kate, it's supposed to be 60 degrees this weekend. I thought Milo kept you up to date on the daily weather forecast in your area, or is she slippin up on the job?

Formerly Duped said...

URL said... 85
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hmm, maybe that's what Kate is shopping for,,,nah, she's asexual .

lol my friend told me she got a toy there !

Lalalalala said...

I fell on the ice last week and hurt my back, pulling some muscles. Imagine my disappointment when I discovered my, uh, "massage device" had bit the dust.

NOW I know where to find a replacement AND find a gift for an upcoming baby shower.

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LOL!!

lukebandit said...

When I was in my apt., I went to the office to pay my rent before lunch one morning and when I was coming out, an elderly couple were walking on the sidewalk going to their car. We struck up a conversation and he told me that they had just got married at the courthouse that morning and they had came their to pay their rent. They were so happy. They warmed my heart, because of my sad divorce from my ex. It gave me hope that you can find love out there again. Something impressed on me to give them 10 dollars to buy their lunch. I wanted to, but I didn't and I have regretted it ever since.

I have thought about it over the years and how they would of reacted after receiving it. I thought, I could of given them their first wedding gift. I just could kick myself for not doing it.

I give to Jimmy Hale Mission about an hour from me. They have a women's shelter there for women and children called Jessie's Place. I am going to send them some money for the Christmas meals. I do it in honor of my grandfather, my sons and my grandson.

I just wish I could turn back the clock and give them their present.

For Christmas one year, I bought a bunch of coupons from Hardee's for breakfast that was a free bisquit and coffee. I gave them out to people at the kids school. I gave the man and woman couple bus drivers that drove the kids to the sports games. I gave the lady 2 for her and her husband. She was so stunned and flabbergasted that she was given that and I wrote, thank you for taking care of my boys on the trips, I really appreciate it. I had went into the gym getting ready for a bbgame and she came to me crying, so tore up and hugging and thanking me. I really believe it was the recognition of being appreciated for what they have done for years and years. She was in shock. Sometimes, it takes just a little to make someone very happy.

JoyinVirginia said...

There are small company or nonprofit websites I check out regularly. Several have an Amazon link and ask if you are ordering anything, to use their link to get to Amazon, and that generates a small amount from the orders, and helps support that web site. How come queen of coupons and Amazon fan has never used something like that?

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

There are small company or nonprofit websites I check out regularly. Several have an Amazon link and ask if you are ordering anything, to use their link to get to Amazon, and that generates a small amount from the orders, and helps support that web site. How come queen of coupons and Amazon fan has never used something like that?

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Amazon also has a price tracker, CamelCamelCamel, which lists historically low prices and allows you to put in your desired price for an item and sends you e-mail alerts when the price drops. I haven't tried it yet, but some of my friends have, and before they make a purchase, they look to see if the prices are anywhere near the historical low, or if it's in the high price range. They then wait to see if it drops before they place an order. Kind of like Wall Street!

Blowing In The Wind said...

I fell on the ice last week and hurt my back, pulling some muscles. Imagine my disappointment when I discovered my, uh, "massage device" had bit the dust.

NOW I know where to find a replacement AND find a gift for an upcoming baby shower.

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From too much use or not enough? LOL! At least now you know when you get a new replacement device you won't have to worry about buying a baby shower gift for yourself!
Sorry...couldn't resist!

Blowing In The Wind said...

Oh, Kate, for heaven's sakes. It wasn't even a dusting this time. It was a clipper that clipped right through here and the roads were only wet. Schools were on a two-hour delay, but that's only because forecasters weren't sure if it would be through in time for the morning commute. It was. Snow was over by 6 a.m. You probably only saw the tail end of flurries. It wasn't even a measurable snow.
Such drama!

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Does Kate seem to forget that there are locals who read her tweets and know exactly what the weather conditions are?

Blowing In The Wind said...

The poor dog will not be invited inside with the kids because of that parrot. I doubt he'll be allowed to mingle upstairs with the family.

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If the bird is in its cage, why couldn't the dog be inside with the family, unless Zorro has been quick to learn how to let himself out of the cage?

Blowing In The Wind said...

Moms Out Loud ‏@momsoutloud 59m
Kate Gosselin to Host Caribbean Cruise: Would You Go? | Celebrity Baby Craze http://www.celebritybabycraze.com/kate-gosselin-to-host-caribbean-cruise-would-you-go/1826 … If she can get a host job??WTF!

Somebody is a little late to the party! Article is from last year. Has it really been that long since her cruise debacle? I kind of doubt if Kate wants to be reminded about it!

Gayle said...

@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 Lots of online shopping going on of course...makes sense 2check out http://couponsbykate.com first & see WHERE best deals are! :)

So sorry but if Kate can't go to her own website and use the coupons to shop I'm not going there either. This year I've done just about all of my shopping on Amazon. I don't know how that coupon site of hers can succeed since she never publicizes it.

TLC stinks said...

I think she is whining about the snow because she hopes to grift a trip to someplace warm. So go buy 9 tickets! I mean, er, 10. We must not forget Steve.

Formerly Duped said...

I guess Kate is not dreaming of a white Christmas :(

localyocul said...

Maybe TFW was in Chester County? We got a second round from about 1:30 to 4 for another inch or so.

Serendipity said...

MyMomShops ‏@mymomshops 33m
Is Kate Gosselin's daughter a @Gymboree model? http://bit.ly/1hioVq5

Does Gymboree know that this person posted a picture of one of their young models on her blog? Isn't Gymboree's material copyrighted?

PA Dutch Mom said...

Maybe TFW was in Chester County? We got a second round from about 1:30 to 4 for another inch or so.

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We got that squall, too, only it didn't amount to anything. I was holding my breath because I knew I had to go out later this afternoon, but the roads were clear and there wasn't even enough to "broom off" the driveway. Our weather guys and gals swear that there is no more snow in the forecast for the next seven days. We shall see!

Formerly Duped said...

I'm near Boston and I have shoveled 3 times today with my kids' help! And on the weekend! But it's pretty. I like living in a 4 season are. I must say shoveling gets old fast, however.. But TFW probably has 'Snow People.'

AuntieAnn said...

Lalalalala said... 97

I fell on the ice last week and hurt my back, pulling some muscles. Imagine my disappointment when I discovered my, uh, "massage device" had bit the dust.

NOW I know where to find a replacement AND find a gift for an upcoming baby shower.

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Just be careful you don't wrap the wrong box for the baby shower or you'll have some 'splainin to do.

localyocul said...

PA Dutch Mom said... 110
Maybe TFW was in Chester County? We got a second round from about 1:30 to 4 for another inch or so.

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We got that squall, too, only it didn't amount to anything. I was holding my breath because I knew I had to go out later this afternoon, but the roads were clear and there wasn't even enough to "broom off" the driveway. Our weather guys and gals swear that there is no more snow in the forecast for the next seven days. We shall see!

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Well there ya go. That squall probably knocked out another few trees of hers and she had to call her landscaper to plow the driveway.

PatK said...

localyocul said... 113


Well there ya go. That squall probably knocked out another few trees of hers and she had to call her landscaper to plow the driveway.

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I hope she didn't lose power again. lol

Susie Cincinnati said...

Milo's explanation of why Kate doesn't promote her coupon site:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 9m
@nancivs I understand how U look at it...but Kate is Kate...she isn't going 2hide the fact she uses Amazon! Her site is still very useful.

Milo and Kate, according to Milo, are still communicatin in other ways!

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 59m
@bitemeaholes Ah, but U do not get it...she is WORKING! So much U do not know....:)

Milo still has never said what work it is that Kate actually does. Kate disappears for days, and Milo pesters her to find out what she's doing, where she is, who she is with, she tweets the Deanna person trying to find out why Kate isn't tweeting, and yet she claims that she knows so much about Kate that others don't know. Sure she does, if Milo really is Kate or a paid publicity agent.

capecodmama said...

Formerly Duped...111

We got a couple of inches today but it is now 9:20pm and 36 degrees so it's melting. Hubby and I are heading out to western MA tomorrow and it's only 12 degrees out there. The temp difference between the Cape and other parts of the state are always wacky. Gotta love it.

Susie Cincinnati said...

What petition did Kate post, and when?

xxx=xxx
@Kateplusmy8 If i sign that petition you posted would it cost money

localyocul said...

Jersey1Girl ‏@nancivs 44m
@MiloandJack why does k NEVER promote HER OWNsite(like she never shared book signing)Kcan certainly tweet how she saved.You try more than k
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Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 42m
@nancivs There R reasons..not my place 2say here! Suffice 2say Kate works tirelessly every day..long hrs..2do what's necessary 4her family!

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Please. What reason could t here possible be to not promote your cookbook or your website?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

If you have time to write a book, you have time to promote it. There's no excuse for not promoting your work other than laziness. She never even bothered to make some kind of sidebar or tab with the book that is always there when you open any page on her site. That is basic. In this day in age, being a celebrity is 10% actual acting or whatever your "talent" is, and 90% promotion. In fact I've heard a lot of celebs complain that the part of their job they hate the most is promotion, they want to just act. But it has to be done, it's part of the deal.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Kate is "working"? Milo's joking right. Oh yeah she's working so hard at apparently getting one of the girl's a modeling gig so that her CHILD can continue to work for the family's income. That sure looks like Alexis to me, and recent. She will never stop. Every time she secures a little gig like that, it only encourage her to keep on keeping on.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Just be careful you don't wrap the wrong box for the baby shower or you'll have some 'splainin to do.


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You talk as if this mix-up happened to you.... lol!

Sleepless In Seattle said...

That sure looks like Alexis to me, and recent.

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I could be wrong, but her eyes are more wide-set than that.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 59m
@bitemeaholes Ah, but U do not get it...she is WORKING! So much U do not know....:)

Oh please, working at what? According to Kate, her days are filled with bird playing and Amazon shopping. Not to mention all those hours/day in the kitchen.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Orange you forgot cooking and hot yoga, not necessarily in that order lol. :)

I mean by her own admission she putters around most of the day cooking and looking at emails and doing things like yoga. Even Kate rarely claims she's really "working." She lives like a real housewife accomplishing nothing of substance or of benefit to society but at least even Kate doesn't try to claim she's doing much of anything all that productive so Lord knows why Milo is insisting upon it.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

She lives like a real housewife accomplishing nothing of substance or of benefit to society but at least even Kate doesn't try to claim she's doing much of anything all that productive so Lord knows why Milo is insisting upon it.

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Because Milo needs to brag about how "close" they are. The nanny nanny boo boo thing -- I know something you don't know. She will never say what Kate is doing because she has no idea. Kate doesn't share it with her, but she has to keep on supportin her, makin her look like a hard workin Mom of Eight with no support from her ex from hell.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 1h
@Kateplusmy8 Wow Kate...amazing the bond/ camaraderie between twins! I'm sure U've seen it w/Cara & Mady! pic.twitter.com/01GxxvHMih

Everything in Milo's life revolves around Kate. She sees a picture of twins, and compares them to Cara and Mady, and she's SURE Kate's seen camaraderie between them.

I wonder if Milo is so deep into this Kate thing that she actually believes she's part of her life. At what point does an obsession actually pass from a simple girl (or woman) crush on a celebrity into a full-blown mental issue?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

That is creepy the way everything she sees somehow relates to Kate and the kids either because it reminds her of them or she wants to share some stupid thing from the web with them.

Moreover, more than likely an adult put that arm around his twin. Although there is no doubt twins have a special bond and do seek to be close to each other when they are babies, it looks like a one day old infant--they cannot possibly have the capacity to understand such a gesture or make it. If the baby did it on his own, it was random.

fidosmommy said...

I don't think that model is a Gosselin. She does resemble Mady - at age 7 - but I am willing to bet a fruit cake that is not a Gosselin.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I looked at it again zooming in a bit with the touchpad and I don' think so anymore. The nose isn't right and it looks like baby teeth. She sure is a dead ringer though.

However, photoshop can alter appearances. So I can't completely rule it out. There was a cover of People so heavily photoshopped where if it I saw each photo individually I would doubt that was them. I have a feeling though Kate would probably have bragged about this one.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Moreover, more than likely an adult put that arm around his twin.

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Yup...that's the first thing I thought when I saw that photo. Either the arm was placed there, or it randomly landed there. If a teddy bear would have been there instead, the baby would have had an arm over the bear, and I doubt that there's any amazing bond between a newborn and a bear.

Rainbirdie said...

Maybe I'm not remembering things correctly, but I don't recall the show ever specifically focusing on C & M as having a special bond as twins. I'm sure they have one, I just don't think the show highlighted it. (Just a random thought since Milo brought up the topic of their bond/comaraderie)

Gayle said...

I don't think it's a G kid either. The eyes are not quite right. If it were one of the G8 TFW would be pushing that store and saying how much she loves the brand.

AuntieAnn said...

You talk as if this mix-up happened to you.... lol!

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Nope. Well not yet anyway ;p

Carrin said...

I wouldn't say Mady and Cara have such a close twin bond. They are not identical twins, don't look a thing alike, don't have the same interests, don't seem to be terribly close friends. I have an identical twin sister and we were alike in most ways when we were little. We would cry if one was sick and the other had to go to school alone.

AuntieAnn said...

Gayle said... 132

I don't think it's a G kid either. The eyes are not quite right. If it were one of the G8 TFW would be pushing that store and saying how much she loves the brand.

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Gladys reads here so she will be looking right into it. We should have verification within the next few hours.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

. If a teddy bear would have been there instead, the baby would have had an arm over the bear, and I doubt that there's any amazing bond between a newborn and a bear.

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Yes or a brick or a steel pole! I mean honestly! hehe.

There IS a special bond between many twins, it's been well documented. This was not one of those moments. Why make things up about it?

AuntieAnn said...

I am no authority on the subject but maybe it isn't that uncommon for twins to bond that way. When they're in the womb they wrap their arms around one another. They may do the same outside of the womb when they're placed together.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2508107/Nothing-tear-apart-Adorable-newborn-twins-cling-bathed-time.html

Silimom said...

The snopes article on "The Rescuing Hug".

http://www.snopes.com/glurge/hug.asp

jillygee said...

I saw that the Roloffs were on last night. I've never really watched them but was curious about the kids who are all grown. Wow....I came across this article. Seems TFW Will likely be dealing w some of this in the near future...

http://spiritswander.blogspot.ca/2012/09/is-jacob-roloff-following-infamous-path.html

localyocul said...

jillygee said... 139
I saw that the Roloffs were on last night. I've never really watched them but was curious about the kids who are all grown. Wow....I came across this article. Seems TFW Will likely be dealing w some of this in the near future...


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http://spiritswander.blogspot.ca/2012/09/is-jacob-roloff-following-infamous-path.html

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He's a mess. His Twitter is awful. He insults his mother, tweets about smoking weed, etc. He's not a nice kid.

Formerly Duped said...

I never saw Cara and Mady as close. They argued over everything form opening gifts, to how to play games, sharing, to who wore/owned what. I would say Leah and Hannah seem the closest among the kids just from what we've seen. TFW encourages this and excludes Alexis.

Suzee said...

@MiloandJack
@bitemeaholes Ah, but U do not get it...she is WORKING! So much U do not know....:)

@MiloandJack
@nancivs There R reasons..not my place 2say here! Suffice 2say Kate works tirelessly every day..long hrs..2do what's necessary 4her family!

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TFW (and Milo and the rest of the flock) consider everything she does to be working. TFW's list includes everything from filing lawsuits to 'protect her children' from their father, grifting, sending out videos to get a tv show, online shopping, masterminding, tweeting, consulting with lawyers to sue Jon, LaFair and Robert, posing for paps, reading/responding to e-mails about taking down her haters, making lists, cooking meals for her family, and on and on. She believes that's 'supporting' her family.

As for Milo - she'd say anything, no matter how ludicrous, to back her idol. Since she chooses to ignore the clues TFW drops all to often when she outs and contradicts herself, I think she probably has even less of an idea what TFW does and doesn't do with her time than we do. That, plus a refusal to recognize and admit the truth. lol

Suzee said...

http://spiritswander.blogspot.ca/2012/09/is-jacob-roloff-following-infamous-path.html

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He's a mess. His Twitter is awful. He insults his mother, tweets about smoking weed, etc. He's not a nice kid.

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I have to wonder how much having his childhood exploited on national tv contributed to his rebellious, angry attitude and his sense of entitlement and how much is a result of the dysfunction in the family and having 3 family members with medical conditions and who are so different in stature from you. While I think he's a bright, yet troubled young man, I feel sympathy for him that he's had to grow up in the pubic eye because of his parent's decision to exploit their family on tv. I'm not by any means making excuses for his atrocious behavior but just question reality tv's contribution.

Katie cry-duh said...

Re:Gymboree ad. That child is definitely 100% not a gosselin. There is a SLIGHT resemblance but that's it. Doesnt look at all like Alexis. Nor mady.

Sheri said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...(87)

"Sherry fortunately contracts that require you to do an illegal act such as violate labor laws are generally voidable. You can't contract to do something illegal even if you signed. I totally agree about kids not having the capacity to consent to such restrictions even if they are legal."

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Well, that's good to know. I wonder then if it is merely the intimidation factor that keeps people from begging out of reality t.v. when it gets to be too much?

When you look at how TLC went after Jon, it's not surprising that even if a participant were unhappy they would conclude it's just easier to stick it out.

And absolutely, no child should be put in that situation...ever.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Suzee I wonder the same. I think he's a good kid under there, going through some very difficult teen angst. I think he's got a heck of a lot of youngest child syndrome, and I think he has two parents who have coddled and babied him yet often neglected him. They both work very hard, long hours and are both stretched very thin between the show and the three other kids with needs. I do not think being on T.V. has helped, and he's been on since he was very young. He also lost his mentor a few years ago, the same escapes me. Mike maybe? Normal stature guy, he was one of their employees and the two of them were best buds. They were both in the pumpkin throwing equipment accident some time ago and were both fine. He passed away and I think Jacob felt like the father figure and mentor he really needed had abandoned him. I also think he feels left behind because now all the other three have moved out two of them out of state.

Also, he will go through life knowing that genetically he has a very good chance of having a little person child. That is something that needs to be explained to any girlfriends he has that might be leading to something serious. That is not the easiest thing to explain or deal with emotionally. I feel for the kid.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

That article about his twitter is 16 months old.

I looked at this twitter account today, and it was almost all completely appropriate. Granted, there are a LOT of tweets and I only read about a week back, but in that week? Ehh, he was fine. Hopefully he's matured a bit in a year. He tweets about movies he's seen and he retweets a lot of things that interest him. Actually quite a bit of interesting current events, which is impressive for a kid his age to be interested in. It seems fine to me. I've sure seen a lot worse from kids his age.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


The snopes article on "The Rescuing Hug".

http://www.snopes.com/glurge/hug.asp

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I'm kind of surprised it's true actually. I won't dispute that these are real twins who really did snuggle together. The twins I knew were always placed in the same crib together, especially when they were in very poor health in the beginning, and it helped them.

But as far as saying it's true that a one day old infant has the mental capacity to understand the gesture of putting their arm around their sibling, baloney. I do believe that newborn twins would take tremendous comfort in snuggling as close as possible as that's how they were in the womb, and that their health might even improve. I just don't believe they would understand the "arm around my sibling" gesture. They just know it feels better to be pressed up against this other body because that's all I've ever known. That is adults once again imposing their adult thinking and nonsense on little children.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 119
If you have time to write a book, you have time to promote it. There's no excuse for not promoting your work other than laziness. She never even bothered to make some kind of sidebar or tab with the book that is always there when you open any page on her site. That is basic.
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Kate has the same advertisement, err, post on her site- top of the fold. It STILL reads "pre order Sept 2013".
Kate's laziness is sloth-like.
That blog is nothing but an afterthought. She boasted about it when it first went up, and has ZERO discipline to keep it up.
I'd be embarrassed for her, but she can't even be embarrassed for herself.
She's nothing but a first-rate amateur in everything she does.
Oh no, wait... she did succeed at brow beating a 3-year old Hank Jr., so there's that.

Andrea said...

I dont think that any of the Roloff kids are well adjusted. The twins use to kill song birds and post pictures of it on the internet. Jacob has gone through a lot. Some of his most private moments have been on TV. Its clear that he would not be doing TV if he had a choice. I hope he can overcome all of the crap he has had to deal with as a child.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Emily Creighton ‏@EmCr68 10h
“@WFSBnews: Mega Millions winning numbers tonight: 8, 14, 17, 20, 39 Mega Ball 7” @Kateplusmy8 OF COURSE 8 IS A WINNING NUMBER!
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This is so ridiculous it's beyond words. A collage girl acting like a 13 year old who's in love with some rock star.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Yes I just checked and it does still say pre-order. Gosh that's pathetic. Plus, once you click on any other post, the book posts disappear. Which is why I'm saying she needs them in the sidebar or banner bar such that if you click on any post, even one a few years ago, you will still see the book advertisement. Promotion 101. Look at how Pioneer Woman does it. She has her latest book above the fold in the right banner. If you click on any post, even old ones, it's still there in the right banner. This is how you do it, and it's so simple to set up. There is no way to know how many sales she has missed just from being too lazy to do such a simple thing.

TFW's latest post is from over 3 weeks ago, which is a completely unacceptable time frame for any blog you're serious about. It's about Zorro. I had never read it before and I started to skim it...I'm shocked and appalled that the way Kate paints it, they were never intended to get that bird. They had gone into the pet store for something for Shoka and then saw the bird on an employee's shoulder. Next thing you know they're buying it!

For God sake, the last thing you need to do is take on the responsibility of such a complicated pet on IMPULSE. She really is 14 years old, isn't she? Only a 14 year old goes into a pet store for dog food and comes home with an exotic bird. An adult first goes home, researches the bird, discusses it with their family, weighs the pros and cons, and after a reasonable amount of time and lots of thought and discussion, then decides whether to add a bird to their family.

AuntieAnn said...

That is adults once again imposing their adult thinking and nonsense on little children.
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I'm not so sure Milo's thinking qualifies as adult thinking. She's about at the same 13-year-old level as TFW. I get what you mean though. She'll say anything to suck up to Kate just to keep their bff relationship alive.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Point Dume elementary school fifth graders in California have cancelled their annual trip to Seaworld! This is a tradition that has been going on 10 years.

Reports are that the students and parents themselves asked school administrators to please cancel the trip. Good for those kids.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

For God sake, the last thing you need to do is take on the responsibility of such a complicated pet on IMPULSE. She really is 14 years old, isn't she? Only a 14 year old goes into a pet store for dog food and comes home with an exotic bird. An adult first goes home, researches the bird, discusses it with their family, weighs the pros and cons, and after a reasonable amount of time and lots of thought and discussion, then decides whether to add a bird to their family.

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According to Kate that's exactly what she did. She said they'd seen the bird each time they went to the pet store. She did go home and research it before buying it....according to her tweets.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I sure hope she researched it. The way the blog post is written, one day they're in the pet store the next she's launching into all about having Zorro at their house. She doesn't talk about research or any planning that went into it or what other family members thought. Of course this could be just another case of a poorly written blog post.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

In her blog post she said they first saw him in October. Not defending her, just saying that to me it didn't sound like she saw the bird and on impulse bought it on the spot. She said she researched it.

NJGal51 said...

TFW did tweet that she'd done extensive research before purchasing the bird however everytime someone told her something to watch for it seemed to come as a surprise to her and she hadn't come across many things in her "research". I'm sure that she learned more just reading the bird posts on this blog than she learned in any of her research. My guess? She bought the bird on a whim.

Kate is a twit said...

An adult first goes home, researches the bird, discusses it with their family, weighs the pros and cons, and after a reasonable amount of time and lots of thought and discussion, then decides whether to add a bird to their family.
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According to Kate's blog post, dated Nov.25, that is exactly what she did do. They first saw the bird in October. Then she says that she did research and they finally picked up the bird on Nov. 24.

From her blog:

"We found him “by accident” sometime back in October. Cara, Mady, Collin and I were at the pet store picking up some water conditioner for our beta fish, Fizzy and Finn."

"The more research I did on him, the more I decided that he’d be a great fit for our family! But, I carefully thought through this big decision and decided he’d be a great family gift for Christmas..Since the store wouldn’t officially hold him til Christmas, we made nearly weekly visits to see him until I had the research done and his cage and supplies ordered. Yesterday was the day for pick up so we all loaded up and very excitedly headed off to the pet store to pick Zorro up!"

I dislike Kate as much as anyone, but to be fair, she did say she went home and researched about the bird, and got him approximately a month after first seeing him. I don't know exactly what she researched, because she apparently hadn't read cautions(or is just not following them) about having the bird on your shoulder, head or chest, but she apparently did do some research. Of course, that is, if you believe what she writes.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

My mistake. She didn't launch into the part about doing research until after she started describing the bird and all his attributes, making it seem like now she was going into what it was like to have him at home. Which was about when I got bored and stopped reading lol. I really do hope she did tons of research on him and knows what she's doing.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Of course it would have to be a 14 year old with some $$$, who could see a bird in a pet store, and in spite of 'piecing and patching, decide impulsively to purchase said expensive bird. Nope, she lost a frivolous law suit and needed a bauble to cheer herself up. Too bad she has no respect for the fact it's a living organism and not a toy.

Kate is a twit said...

SeaWorld made a statement in response to online petitions about getting musical acts to cancel their appearances. .

"In a statement to CBS News, SeaWorld responded to the petition drives by saying: "This is a coordinated campaign of digital harassment and does not in any sense represent the opinions of the American public. A far better measure is the number of people actually coming to SeaWorld. "

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/seaworld-petitions-aimed-at-musical-acts-are-harassment/

People stating their opinion and making petitions is now considered harassment? Is "bullying" going to be next word they'll start using?

AuntieAnn said...

The more research I did on him, the more I decided that he’d be a great fit for our family!

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And just how she came to that decision is mystifying.

Mel said...

TFW said she did research, but I don't think she did. She didn't seem to know even the basics about the bird type when other tweeters were bringing up things.

My bet is she saw it and bought it. Maybe waited til the cage came in to pick it up, but bought it the day she saw it.

She clearly has no impulse control. If she did, we wouldn't have seen her going nuts about the pizza on the RV trip. She would have waited and gone nuts after the cameras were off.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Harassment huh? That's rich coming from an organization that puts on a circus act in a bathtub every day while the adoring public shouts "Shamu Shamu". That's not harassment of those poor creatures?

They are wrong and lying. This IS representative of the public. According to Bloomberg news, their attendance is down so much this year the had to slash prices just to try to get people through the doors. At one point they were GIVING AWAY tickets FREE just to give the appearance of people coming through the doors. Their stock is dropping like a rock. The majority of the public has spoken. What they are doing to those creatures is wrong and must be stopped. Even little children have spoken, they do NOT want to go to these parks anymore even though for 10 years they have gone, because it is breaking their hearts.

I love too how much like many celebs in a PR mess, they refuse to address the actual concerns people have. What about the safety of the trainers? What about the health and happiness of the whales? Why are you fighting OSHA to continue to put your trainers in harm's way? Why have you been banned from almost all waters except Iceland? Instead they deflect, accusing people of harassment. They're animal abusers and I hope all those parks go under. I read some more about the wildlife rescue work they do. According to what I read, not a single dime of profit from the park goes to fund that. It's all government funded. So shut down the parks and have the government continue to fund their rescue efforts, fine. But those parks must close or at least get rid of their poor animals.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

The thing is too if you look at the comments to most of the Seaworld articles, of which there are hundreds of thousands of comments, most of them seem like newbies to this mess. They sound concerned, credible, not radical.

In other words this is not some weird fringe group PETA type thing organized by some college hippies to take them down. It's just random people off the street, moms and dads, kids, average people, who either saw the documentary or read about it and were horrified and decided for themselves this must stop.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

OSHA ruled some time ago that trainers may not be in the water with the whales anymore. Sea World is in the process of appealing this.

It really does beg the question what are they going to do if they lose their appeal and OSHA says they cannot have trainers in the water with the whales anymore period?

So we're just going to watch the whales swim circles all day, maybe splash the audience a bit? There's no way the public is going to be much interested in that. The appeal of the shows was the interactions with the trainers, the jumps and dives and things.

It will transform the park and I hope this is what happens, because it could be a turning point here.

Mel said...

Maybe waited til the cage came in

Via Amazon. Teehee.

Suzee said...

I looked at this twitter account today, and it was almost all completely appropriate.

Admin, the particular blog about the Roloff's show commented recently that they've noticed that his out of line tweets coincidentally stopped when their show started airing a few weeks ago and speculated that he'll resume once it's on hiatus again. Posters there thought that perhaps TLC had something to do with silencing him.

As for the question of newborn twins intentionally putting an arm over a sibling --- they just don't have the muscle tone or strength to do that, nor the cognitive development. Sure, they may instinctively gravitate/move and cuddle next to each other, but they can't control their extremities at that age. I agree that "They just know it feels better to be pressed up against this other body because that's all I've ever known."

AuntieAnn said...

They are wrong and lying. This IS representative of the public. According to Bloomberg news, their attendance is down so much this year the had to slash prices just to try to get people through the doors. At one point they were GIVING AWAY tickets FREE just to give the appearance of people coming through the doors. Their stock is dropping like a rock.

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The mighty are falling. SeaWorld execs were singing a happier tune in April of this year:


"We won't be a taxpayer for several years to come," SeaWorld President and Chief Executive Officer Jim Atchison told prospective investors shortly before the company went public. "That's a great advantage for us."

SeaWorld is avoiding income taxes even as business is booming. The company's pre-tax profits more than tripled in 2012 to $117 million. Total sales across its 11 parks climbed 7 percent to more than $1.4 billion.


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-04-25/business/os-seaworld-avoids-income-tax-20130425_1_tax-code-corporate-tax-breaks-income

Over And Out said...

This is so ridiculous it's beyond words. A collage girl acting like a 13 year old who's in love with some rock star.

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It's not only Kate with whom she is enamored. Seems she does have a crush on a female pop star. You'd expect this from a young teen, but it really does raise some concerns when it's a college-age girl. Hopefully she'll outgrow it and not end up like Gladys.

Sheri said...

Kate is a twit said...(162)

SeaWorld made a statement in response to online petitions about getting musical acts to cancel their appearances. .

"In a statement to CBS News, SeaWorld responded to the petition drives by saying: "This is a coordinated campaign of digital harassment and does not in any sense represent the opinions of the American public. A far better measure is the number of people actually coming to SeaWorld."

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Oh geeze, what a ridiculous statement. Of course it's representative of the opinions of the American public.

The musical acts are made up of artists who are American citizens, right?

The people starting and circulating petitions are Americans, right?

The students and parents of the school deciding to not attend the park are Americans, right?

SMH

Kate is a twit said...

Here's an article about how the Florida Attraction Association is going to bat for SeaWorld, while SeaWorld stays basically mute. Who and what else does this remind you of?

http://www.digitaljournal.com/entertainment/op-ed-florida-attractions-association-battles-blackfish-effect/article/364120

The FAA calls the dissenters "radical extremists", and says "Unfortunately, a few radical extremist groups are attacking SeaWorld. CNN network, desperate for ratings, modified their all "news" format to air a skewed documentary denigrating SeaWorld."

The FAA also made a post on its FB and twitter stating "If you're a fan, Facebook friend or Twitter follower of any of the musicians who have cancelled, please politely tell them that you support SeaWorld and, if they care for animals, they should too."

The article then had this to say about SeaWorld:

"It is somewhat bizarre that bang in the middle of a particularly damaging PR crisis, the corporation that could and should possess the ability to defend itself, is lying down. Yet outside of a few carefully worded missives and statements, all requests for SeaWorld's "side of the story" have been consistently declined, rejected and ignored. It is perhaps easier to label everyone not in agreement with their perspective a radical activist.

So does SeaWorld have a credible answer for Blackfish the movie? If so, then it has not produced it yet. The company approach instead banks on reticence and ignorance and anticipates that the majority of media outlets — just like its many visitors, won't dig too deeply into either its history, or the inner workings of its operations."

PA Dutch Mom said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 2h
The wrapping has begun, the wrapping has begun, hi ho the dairy-o the wrapping has begun (& my back hurts already! Ha!) #santasbusy #stayout

Dairy? LOL! It's Derry!

Kate, gather up the volume of gifts that you have bought even though you're piecing and patching, head to the mall to the kiosk set up there, and have them wrap the things for you. Yes, you'll have to pay, but in this way you also get to pay back. The money goes to charity and it's a deduction if you keep a copy in your records. Moreover, the cost is minimal, and when you figure the cost of buying your own wrapping paper, time, and energy (and complaining), you'll break even, and there will be a nice contribution to the charity.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Apparently there is also controversy about the SeaWorld float in the upcoming Rose Parade - huge pushback from PETA and others.

Mel said...

I think the only thing TFW 'researched' was where to get the most expensive bird cage.

A pet shop bird cage isn't going to be good enough for the Gosselin children.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

CNN repeatedly asked them to participate in the documentary and they refused. They have no right to say that it is skewed when they refused to participate. I read many of the witness statements and police reports available online about Dawn's death. Even then witnesses were complaining that Seaworld was lying about what they saw of Dawns death. An entire family saw it up close and were shocked that Seaworld was putting out statements that bore no resemblance to what they saw up close. They also said SW was rude and dismissive even though they were prime witnesses. I still have not heard them address the specific concerns that the documentary raised, backed by photos and video and eye witnesses. They just deflect and call people radicals. Point Dume is in a very conservative beach community, mostly business people and people who work for the university, a few celebs. Hardly radical.

Tucker's Mom said...

SeaWorld's playing the victim card is about the worst PR move they could possibly make.
Deflection is a sure sign of guilt.
How about manning up and talking about WHY acts are canceling.
If I wasn't already getting to not like them a whole lot, this sure would do it.
#pr101learnsome

nanb said...

I don't believe she did any research on the bird. Kate had been retweeting all about adversity etc Nov. 14th-17th, when she knew her court cases were falling apart she knew she had to distract the sheeple. Then she tries to distract by finally posting the halloween pictures and making and posting bagel pictures. On Nov. 19th she says Shoka went for a rare car ride.

Nov 21 she posts:

Just done w some EXCITING Christmas shopping--an early Christmas addition 2our family..oops..did I say addition?! #hard2keepitquiet #excited

She bought the bird on the 21st and picked him up on the 24th! She didn't visit for a month. She had to distract everyone from the case against Robert going south on the 27th! I believe she took Shoka to the pet store on the 19th and saw the bird, bought bird and cage on the 21st and picked the bird up on the 24th (probably after the kids got home from Jon's).

Kate is a twit said...

Apparently there is also controversy about the SeaWorld float in the upcoming Rose Parade - huge pushback from PETA and others.
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The same thing happened with the Macy's Thanksgiving parade, but the organizers didn't back down and the float was part of the parade.

Millicent said...

Tucker's Mom - agreed. I'm already unhappy with the situation at Sea World, and their public response is only making me dislike and distrust them more and more. It's hard to believe they actually have the best interests of these creatures as their defining goal, when their actions say otherwise.

Anonymous said...

Frontline: A Whale of a Business
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= D3fZ2dMdtu8

Tucker's Mom said...

I wanted to say "thanks" for the heads up on Amazon's lightning deals and camelcamelcamel.
I've already got 2 lightning deals.
I bought a beautiful nativity scene in white teak, for our front yard Christmas display. Will collect more pieces when they go on sale!
I also just bought an outdoor thermal bowl for the critters in winter.
I also have a thermal bird bath that goes on the back deck rail whenever we get a freeze or lots of snow.

Tucker's Mom said...

ps... got the LAST thermal bowl too!

Millicent said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 2h
The wrapping has begun, the wrapping has begun, hi ho the dairy-o the wrapping has begun (& my back hurts already! Ha!) #santasbusy #stayout
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Am I supposed to believe that Kate is wrapping so many presents, that her back hurts? Narcissist, please.

And of course, that lovely snotty hashtag "stay out". Isn't that her permanent response to the kids?

Turtle Logic said...

Re: Admin @126

Dwarfism is a dominant gene, each little person has only 1 copy of the mutated gene in the chromosome pair, and the other gene is normal. Inheriting 2 copies of the gene is fatal and results in stillbirth or death very shortly after birth. The gene can be inherited from a parent (like Zach) or a random mutation (like Amy), who then it passed it on to Zach, and only Zach. Amy and Matt each had 1 copy of the dominant dwarfism gene and 1 copy of the recessive normal gene. Together they had an equal 25% at each conception of producing a average-sized child (Jeremy, Molly, and Jacob) a little person like Amy (achondroplasia, like Zach), a little person like Matt, or a child with 2 copies that would be fatal. Many people would say they very are lucky(?) to have beaten the odds and produced 3 children without the dwarfism gene.

Jeremy, Molly, and Jacob do NOT have a higher chance genetically of producing a child with dwarfism. These 3 offspring only inherited the recessive (non-dwarf) gene from each parent, so they will only pass on the normal (non-dwarf) genes to their children. They have the same odds as the rest of the us non-little people of producing a child with a spontaneous mutation of the dwarfism gene, which is 1 in 15-40 thousand babies.

Zach has a 50% chance of having a child with dwarfism with an averaged-sized partner. If Zach was to have a child with another Little Person, the odds would again be an equal 25% chance of an average-sized, child with dad's type of dwarfism, child with mom's type of dwarfism, or a child with the fatal combination both genes.

Sorry for the genetics lesson rant, but I just wanted to point out that Jacob and his future partner don't have to be concerned about the odds of having children with dwarfism any more than the rest of the populace.

Millicent said...

I dislike Kate as much as anyone, but to be fair, she did say she went home and researched about the bird, and got him approximately a month after first seeing him. I don't know exactly what she researched, because she apparently hadn't read cautions(or is just not following them) about having the bird on your shoulder, head or chest, but she apparently did do some research. Of course, that is, if you believe what she writes.
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I don't believe 99% of what Kate writes, and I'm uncertain about the remaining 1%.

However, I imagine that if Kate actually does any sort of "research" into any subject, it's limited to picture books.

Millicent said...

Andrea said... 150

I dont think that any of the Roloff kids are well adjusted. The twins use to kill song birds and post pictures of it on the internet. Jacob has gone through a lot. Some of his most private moments have been on TV. Its clear that he would not be doing TV if he had a choice. I hope he can overcome all of the crap he has had to deal with as a child.
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I agree Andrea. The only one that appears well-adjusted is the middle child, the daughter. However, I would not be surprised to learn that she's the type that just carries everything inside, and feels it's her duty to carry the weight of the world on her shoulders. She seems to keep her head down, do well in school, and I hope she can escape that environment when she reaches adulthood.

The one I have always felt most sorry for is Jacob, the youngest. It was always clear to me that neither of his parents paid him much attention, and the mom once admitted ON TV, FOR THE WHOLE WORLD TO KNOW, that they had him in the hope he would be a little person like Zach.

I was never able to move beyond that when I thought of Amy and Matt after that - to me, that is really unhealthy, but worse to publicly admit it and let not only your youngest know but the whole world.

I don't admire either parent, and I think the "normal" twin is a spoiled, pampered brat. Zach seems to have little motivation or drive (probably because he was babied all his life as well), middle daughter is hopefully getting a good education and the heck outta there, and that leaves the ignored child Jacob, who not surprisingly, has acted out time and again just for some attention from his parents.

A real mess.

AuntieAnn said...

wrapping has begun (& my back hurts already! Ha!) #santasbusy #stayout

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Oh waaa waaa. Unless she's wrapping cinder blocks it shouldn't be giving the de-ager a backache. If it's such a tough job she should have set up that gift wrapping area as suggested by her basement organizers.

And what's with "santas busy"? According to her there is no Santa. She sure knows how to suck the merriment out of the season.

Aunt Connie said...

About the twin babies... That tiny little arm looks pretty hyper-extended to me. I doubt that a preemie could get his bitty shoulder to move that well without help. The picture is precious and the story is very touching. No doubt both babies benefited from the closeness, however, I still don't believe someone didn't place the little arm over the other baby.

Kate is a twit said...

Most likely, the only research Kate did regarding the bird was searching for a bird cage and accessories that fit in with her décor.

Formerly Duped said...

#santasbusy #stayout

I thought they didn't DO Santa even in jest! Why doesn't she wrap as she buys- as each daily Amazon box arrives lol Would be easier too, if she kept a list for each child to make things even.she's so not-organized!

AuntieAnn said...

Aunt Connie said... 190

About the twin babies... That tiny little arm looks pretty hyper-extended to me. I doubt that a preemie could get his bitty shoulder to move that well without help. The picture is precious and the story is very touching. No doubt both babies benefited from the closeness, however, I still don't believe someone didn't place the little arm over the other baby.

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Which, when you think about it, is rather cruel. They are such delicate little things. If they did that just to capture a photo, it's a little disturbing.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

Most likely, the only research Kate did regarding the bird was searching for a bird cage and accessories that fit in with her décor.

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I'm not so sure that Kate has much of a sense of interior decorating. She still has those draperies, and red checked curtains hanging at the windows that were there when they bought the house. The only thing I've seen in recent photos that has been added is the wine rack!

rainbowsandunicorns said...

Am I supposed to believe that Kate is wrapping so many presents, that her back hurts? Narcissist, please.

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If she's as physically fit as she claims, runs on the treadmill, does yoga and uses her ab-omizer (or whatever it is), should her back hurt? Doesn't it hurt when she runs? I'm not a runner (except running around after kids and on errands), so I really don't know. I do know that my back was hurting while wrapping gifts, so I solved that problem by sitting at the dining room table and doing it that way. No more backaches. It's really not rocket science.

rainbowsandunicorns said...

A pet shop bird cage isn't going to be good enough for the Gosselin children.

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I thought she bought the cage at the same pet shop where she got the bird. She said she ordered it, which is quite possible, because often shops don't carry the large cages that are needed for parrots. They mostly sell the smaller cages for lovebirds, finches, parakeets, and canaries.

Sue said...

Gift wrapping is available on many Amazon purchases. If she opted for that they would come pre-wrapped with gift tags.

FlimsyFlamsy said...

Complaining about having too much to wrap? Does TFW have the remotest sensitivity to the fact that some people would love to
have that problem? People who are -- really and truly -- "piecing and patching" to give their children a happy holiday on limited resources? She already said the bird was a Christmas gift. But there are still more gifts to wrap x8? And don't forget whatever grifts - er, I mean, gifts -- the flock will undoubtedly send. If you can afford that lifestyle for your family, that's wonderful. But to represent yourself as a struggling single mom with a purse full of bills, when there is every evidence to the contrary, is disingenuous and tiresome. Oh, and obnoxious.

Melissa NV said...

Auntie Ann said,
"I'm not so sure Milo's thinking qualifies as adult thinking."

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You're right about that. I'm not even sure it qualifies as any kind of thinking. It's more like drooling, slobbering and lusting, coming up with anything to worship her idol, even if it makes no sense at all to any rational thinking person, adult of otherwise.

Melissa NV said...

Everything in Milo's life revolves around Kate. She sees a picture of twins, and compares them to Cara and Mady, and she's SURE Kate's seen camaraderie between them.

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It's not only pictures of babies -- it's also animals. What does she do? Search the internet for photos and then somehow ties them in with something Kate has done? It's ridiculous.

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 4h
Ha...this reminded me of the parade w/ur kids...U had the "littles leashed together" @Kateplusmy8 >> pic.twitter.com/1gabW0tFxn #CuteMemories

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