The show, which also features other reality has-beens like Taylor Armstrong and Farrah Abraham, premieres this January. Here's Vh1's press release:
VH1 HEADS BACK TO THE THERAPIST COUCH WITH A FOURTH SEASON OF VH1 COUPLES THERAPY
Dr. Jenn Berman is Back as Therapist and Host for the Series
LOS ANGELES, CA – Relationships are hard enough, but imagine the pressure of having your hook ups, “bumps” on the relationship road and breakups as fodder for the tabloids. More and more, it seems couples whose matters of the heart play out in the public eye are calling it quits and throwing in the towel on their relationships. Why is it so tough for these couples to stay together? Looking to shed light on the issue, VH1 will examine the complicated and often misunderstood world of high-profile relationships with VH1 Couples Therapy.
In season 4 of Couples Therapy we will get a look at four-and-a half couples who are facing very complicated issues never before discussed on the show made even more complicated when half of one couple is a no-show. Taylor Armstrong (RHoBH) & John Bluher, Farrah Abraham (Teen Mom), Ghostface Killah (Rapper) & Kelsey Nykole, Whitney Mixter (The Real L Word) & Sara Bettencourt (The Real L Word) and Jon Gosselin (Jon & Kate + Eight) & Liz Janetta will all take a seat on Dr. Jenn Berman’s couch. “VH1 Couples Therapy” is set to premiere January, 2014 with 8, one-hour episodes on VH1.
From the producers of Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew, VH1 Couples Therapy is the first reality show to examine firsthand the real life experiences of a group of buzzed-about couples. For some of these couples, living under constant scrutiny from the media and fans makes it increasingly hard for them to stay together and VH1 wants to see why they can’t seem to go the distance. These four-and-a-half couples, at a crossroads in their relationships, will join together for over 2 weeks as they undergo intensive relationship therapy. Under the guidance of Dr. Jenn Berman, a nationally renowned relationship therapist, the couples will participate in group and individual therapy along with relationship exercises out in the “real world” to see if they can rekindle the love they used to have for one another — or if it’s simply time for them to move on.
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Layla...a lot of common sense in your post ..but...a "5 minute" segment? Don't you think you're being a little generous. LOL..
PatK said...(167)
"Milo speaks!
Fired Up 4 Kate@MiloandJack6m
@Kateplusmy8 Predictable...Jon is on a low rent show 4couples therapy and Kate will be on http://www.hallmarkchannel.com/schedule/ Friday at 10am cooking!"
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Couldn't you just punch something!?
Really Milo? Who are you and why are you so darn invested in proving that Kate is the bees knees while Jon is pond scum?
Kate does Celebrity Wife Swap and you're twitting Kendra like she's your new BFF in the Kate brigade.
Kate leaves her kids for a whole week to be filmed being parented by a stranger so she can be filmed bullying a toddler.
Yet, Jon does a gig, without the kids being filmed, and he's doing "a low rent" show. Yeah, CWS is so freakin' classy compared to CT.
You know what is so PREDICTABLE Milo?
You! You and your ridiculous, over the top, ass kissing to a z lister has been who is still trying to pimp out her kids just so she doesn't have to get off her lazy ass and get a real freakin' job like the rest of us mediocres.
I will say this, Kate's "fans" do her absolutely no favours with bullshit like that and only make people on the fence want to jump down and cheer Jon on.
I still don't agree that CT is a great move on Jon's part but I'm starting to see that maybe it's his only recourse.
As always, so sad for those kids. SMH
Oops, forgot to add...
Congratulations Wowser, Happy Grandbaby!
Does Kate have to spend an entire week in LA for a short segment on a tv show, or has she been doing other media (tabloid) appearances?
How funny they are both out there at the same time. He just can't escape her, can he? lol
Of all the bad PR that Milo is spewing for TFW I believe that when her identity is revealed it will do far more damage.
Wowsers, wowser! Congratulations on the grandbaby!
Well, sounds like the orphanage is being manned by babysitters once again. Kate will make a week vacation out of her CA appearance and Jon's been away filming.
No parents around is just a part of those kids' poor lives.
What Sheri said.....Milo..if you read here..run, don't walk to the nearest mental health facility. There is something missing from your life if you feel you have to stroke a reality has been failure. You are truly pathetic. Don't you have "real" friends? Kates NOT your friend. It's something you have created in your mind. Once she closes her twitter, you will never hear from her again. Kates interest is money and nothing else. please go and enjoy your life and STOP this already. You look like a fool.
chefsummer said... 179
It's funny how KK never lets her die hard sheep know she's going to be on TV or where or book-tour was going to be or when she's making appearances.
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She's probably afraid they'll show up. How on earth would she keep Milo from fondling her while the cameras are rolling? And goodygumshoes? Yikes. Who knows what she would do.
She was very nice to Paige, though.
Wowser: Great news! I'm sure the whole family will enjoy the new addition.
~~~How much do you all think TFW gets paid for the cookbook appearances ?
I thought Jon once mentioned in an interview that he travels nearly an hour each way to have them mid-week for dinner. It didn't sound like an overnight but I could be wrong.
That VH1 show involves far more individual and group therapy than Kate would ever sign on for. She will never take an introspective look at herself or examine the root causes of the divorce.
Formerly Duped said... 10
Wowser: Great news! I'm sure the whole family will enjoy the new addition.
~~~How much do you all think TFW gets paid for the cookbook appearances ?
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Any amount is too much. Yesterday I poked around in a liquidation store. There was a shelf full of cookbooks for $5. Some of them were 3 - 400 pages full of some nice recipes with good photographs. One Italian book looked as if the author had put a lot of effort into organizing the recipes and breaking down the nutrional values, etc. It's too bad someone like a TFW can slap together a piece of trash like she did and go on tour to promote it just because she's a ex-reality tv nobody, while relative unknown chefs and cooks put their hearts into writing a cookbooik and it ends up on a rack in a discount store.
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Wowsers - Adding my congrats on your new grandbaby!
Looks like the other rag mag sites are picking up ROL's stupid story about Jon and Hailey.
Hollywoodite @Hollywoodite 2h
#JonGosselin "shopped around” for a girlfriend to appear on @VH1 @CouplesTherapyV? http://hollywoodite.com/jon-gosselin-pulled-a-farrah-to-get-into-couples-therapy-shopped-around-for-girlfriend … @Kateplusmy8 @DrJennBerman
But ti's nice to see the doctor telling them that it's false.
Dr. Jenn Berman @DrJennBerman 1h
@Hollywoodite What you wrote about @jongosselin is inaccurate and untrue. You should check your source. She just might have her own agenda.
wowser...139 Congratulations on your new grandaughter. Having grandkids is a blast. Enjoy!
After Dr. Jenn tweeted to Hollywoodlite that their article(taken from ROL) was untrue, they actually tweeted her back, and also updated their article.
Hollywoodite @Hollywoodite 12m
@DrJennBerman @jongosselin Noted, Dr Jenn, thank you for the clarification.
The update on their article says:
UPDATE: Dr Jenn was kind enough to respond to this article, and she says it’s “untrue,” suspecting sources have their own agenda.
http://hollywoodite.com/jon-gosselin-pulled-a-farrah-to-get-into-couples-therapy-shopped-around-for-girlfriend
Maybe someone should tweet her and tell her to contact ROL where the story originated. Of course, I doubt ROL would change or update their story.
UPDATE: Dr Jenn was kind enough to respond to this article, and she says it’s “untrue,” suspecting sources have their own agenda.
Here's another thought, perhaps Kates getting a little tweeking of the plastics, a little botox. That pic of her on In Touch, is not very flattering, in fact it makes her look older than 38. Maybe it's a combo trip: Talk show/vac/overhaul. I guess we will see how she looks, tomorrow. If she has that deer in the road look/ stone face, then she had botox.
Wowser: congrats!
Kate is a twit: yeah! for that Doctor guy, he must know something we don't or it is as we have known, one of Kate's camp or co-hort.
Stacking my responses into one post:
PatK said... 198
''At least Jon had the good taste to ignore that "move" of hers. lol''
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I noticed that too, PatK. Jon has a lot of experience in ignoring stupidity...don't forget that he was married to WOS for ten years!
Wowser, you are going to love having a granddaughter! I've had SO much fun buying cute clothes for my granddaughter, and now my great-granddaughter!
Jon's shoot is over, and I don't think he will do what TFW does and stretch out his gig into a longer stay. I think he is home with the children now, while WOS is off to LA.
Sue, I'm thinking that 'do the math' person is that tacky and rude LanaBanana person.
prairiemary, there is nothing at ALL scary about any poster on this blog. There is nothing that ANY poster says on this blog that should make you feel stupid or afraid to respond. You are obviously an intelligent and empathetic person. Overbearing, condescending, repetitive comments are so beneath you that you could respond easily! Go for it, and you will see! lol
LOVED this:
''Dr. Jenn Berman @DrJennBerman 1h
@Hollywoodite What you wrote about @jongosselin is inaccurate and untrue. You should check your source. She just might have her own agenda.''
Actually, it is great for the kids. Kate being gone for a week. They need a vacation from her. The Nanny/hired help/ friend to watch them would be heaven for those kids, they probably get more attention & love from those people then from Kate herself and better food.
Milo's true nature as a hater sure has come out in these last few months hasn't it?
Dr. Jenn Berman @DrJennBerman 1h
@Hollywoodite What you wrote about @jongosselin is inaccurate and untrue. You should check your source. She just might have her own agenda.
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OMG that's awesome!! I'm gonna follow her on twitter.
Dr. Jenn Berman @DrJennBerman 1h
@Hollywoodite What you wrote about @jongosselin is inaccurate and untrue. You should check your source. She just might have her own agenda.
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I like the way she said SHE might have HER own agenda. I wonder if she's thinking Hailey or TFW
Hollywoodite @Hollywoodite 37m
@DrJennBerman @jongosselin Noted, Dr Jenn, thank you for the clarification.
Hollywoodite @Hollywoodite 26m
@DrJennBerman @jongosselin We've updated the original article with some clarifications and your response, thanks again!
Dr. Jenn Berman @DrJennBerman 3m
@Hollywoodite You are welcome.
It's nice that they updated the article but what would be even better is if they retract the whole article and just print the correction. This goes for any crap they run that's debunked from the horse's mouth.
Dr. Jenn Berman @DrJennBerman 1h
@Hollywoodite What you wrote about @jongosselin is inaccurate and untrue. You should check your source. She just might have her own agenda.
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Bazinga!
PJ
Dr. Jenn Berman @DrJennBerman 1h
@Hollywoodite What you wrote about @jongosselin is inaccurate and untrue. You should check your source. She just might have her own agenda.
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Oh, SNAP!!
I'm glad they updated the article at least. Interesting that the doctor said "She just might have her own agenda", implying it was a woman who gave them the tip.
Kate? Hailey? I lean more towards Kate's camp, frankly.
getofftwitter said... 17
Here's another thought, perhaps Kates getting a little tweeking of the plastics, a little botox. That pic of her on In Touch, is not very flattering, in fact it makes her look older than 38
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I was in a supermarket checkout yesterday and I turned around and those dead eyes were staring right at me!
*shivers*
silimom said... 28
I'm glad they updated the article at least. Interesting that the doctor said "She just might have her own agenda", implying it was a woman who gave them the tip.
Kate? Hailey? I lean more towards Kate's camp, frankly.
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Agree. I think Hailey's made it very clear that she wants nothing to do with anyone named Gosselin.
Told ya....here comes Milo belittling Jons gig and propping Kates gig up like shes better than him. Gee.. I didn't know wife swap was soooo classy. Milo is INFURIATING..what a complete jackass!!
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I think there's one thing for which we should all be thankful. Milo is not a member of any of our families. #CountOurBlessings
I've seen episodes of Couples Therapy and actually the therapists seem quite capable. While there do seem to be some participants who like to create a fame seeking sideshow, the therapy in and of itself is effective.
Admin, I absolutely agree with what you wrote re: Type A and Type B personalities. Thank you for all of your work on this site.
localyocul said... 21
Milo's true nature as a hater sure has come out in these last few months hasn't it?
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It sure has. I can't pinpoint when it happened exactly, but she went from good old southern Christian gal to almost as vicious as Goody.
If he/she is really just a fan, I'd say there was some kind of dramatic change in either his/her life or psyche. Neither of which can be good.
Milo's true nature as a hater sure has come out in these last few months hasn't it?
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Well, yes, that's true. I was wondering where all of her positivity has gone. She's been slamming Jon at every turn, and now bashes the television show he's on. I thought she was the one who kept tweeting the platitudes about seeing the good in everyone, walking in another person's shoes, etc. She certainly doesn't practice what she has preached. I think that underneath that good old sweet respected southern gal persona that she has tried to create there is a very mean and vindictive streak. Makes you kind of wonder exactly why those neighbors (or family members) pulled out in the middle of the night and left no forwarding address.
Hey, Milo...you're not fooling anyone, although you are very good at catfishing.
IMO 'she' refers to Hailey since she was mentioned in the article and Kate was not. Maybe they both do, however!
Do you really believe that for Jon, his 8 children are "nothing more than casualties" in his quest for easy money? This, after Jon has basically kept himself out of the spotlight for a couple of years, gained more custody time with his kids, put his twitter on private, and works at a variety of mediocre jobs to make ends meet? This, after seeing Jon interact with his children in a loving, playful and parental manner during the run of the show. This, after reading local's who twitter about seeing Jon out and about with his kids, having a good time?
You really think he sees them as "nothing more than casualties" in his quest for easy money? I am seriously asking, because that's quite a remark in light of all the love and affection we've seen between Jon and the children (while seeing almost none at all between their mother and the children).
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Selectively, yes. I think when it suits him, he ignores what's best for the kids. With his reputation, even sporadic appearances create a blowback of negative press that lives on the internet forever.
I don't elevate Jon to hero status for doing what he should ; loving and playing with the kids, working and staying off of Twitter. And I don't give him higher marks for doing those things whereas Kate doesn't. She's a hopeless category of her own that shouldn't be used as a comparison.
Imagine if Robert where the one in Jon's shoes. Do you think he would have left those kids with Kate as the primary custodian, blown through his money (that the kids made him) spending it on a New York apartment, cars and partying, with a string of questionable, failed relationships (I believe most of them) in his wake all because he was so traumatized after being beaten down by Kate? All the information about Kate that has taken this blog years to discover, Jon already knew about. He lived with her. And he left those kids anyway because he was so brow beaten he just had to spend some time sowing his wild oats and spending money as if he owned his own Brinks truck rather than focusing on his divorce and custody issues. She ran that show and now he's left to win back time with the kids he should have rightfully had to begin with. But when Michael Lohan is recommending Mark Heller as your attorney and that's just fine with you, this is what you get.
Finally, look at the way Charlie Sheen is calling out the DCFS for their abominable handling of his case. Make some noise, Jon, if those kids are left with an unfit mother because the house is clean and she cooks...well, kind of.
Does anyone know who this Vector China person is? Male? Female?...and why he/she/it is so enamored with Alexis?
Hand in hand . . . Bravo!
Adding my congratulations to Wowser.
Carezee,
I didn't even know Mark had a new show. I knew he was on Entertainment Tonight for years, but I haven't heard much about him since them. Some people kind of trashed him when he and his wife split up, but the Mark I knew was laid-back, friendly, and fun to be around. He was a big guy on campus, but he always went out of his way to include everyone. Just a good-hearted Iowa boy. Same goes for Kurt Warner. Loved them both back then, and love them now!
I saw a tweet from the woman who hosts the show, saying that they were taping TFW's segment this afternoon. She probably went to NYC to have her roots done, flew out to LA early to berate Julie Carson May for not getting her a new show while Jon got one, and then hit the spa and shopped so she could feel like one of the stars. Today is taping, so she'll probably go home tomorrow (or Sunday if Jon has the kids). I'm sure JCM has her phone off the hook and her shades drawn until TFW is gone.
If Milo turns out to be TFW, then she needs to be committed to a mental institution immediately, for the sake of her children. No one else, not even a Mother, would make themselves look and sound that stupid over someone they know or don't know, would they? Especially a stranger they never met?
RH, now would be a great time to expose Milo if you really know who it is.
People are calling TFW out now, and rightfully so. The Hallmark gig won't get her any where after the reviews have already came out. The real food critics blew her out of the water with the reviews on how terrible the recipes were, how they don't make sense, and terrible instructions. no measuring, and no nutritional value. The pics don't match the recipes.
How she can keep up this fake fiasco with a straight face makes the network look really stupid. Hallmark needs to get a clue.
Milo, how many shows are you currently on or scheduled to be on? Oh yea, 0.
Boycotting Hallmark - The book is not what she says it is.
Please, no more little ole church ladies $$. The info commercial guy was just sentenced to serve 17 years for lying about his book, why does she get away with possible plagiarism or leaving off things to make it look like her own words?
Thanks to the good Dr for standing up to the "bullies".
Good Luck J&L
And he left those kids anyway because he was so brow beaten he just had to spend some time sowing his wild oats and spending money as if he owned his own Brinks truck rather than focusing on his divorce and custody issues.
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How does anyone who wasn't there know exactly how much he focused on the divorce, not to mention what he did in regards to custody? Do we really know that he didn't fight for custody, and moreover how much time (and money) was spent in court over custody issues? You can only fight so much, go to court only so many times until you realize that it's a lost cause when each time you get shot down. I would imagine that judges get pretty darn fed up each time you appear in front of them.
handinhand said...(37)
"Finally, look at the way Charlie Sheen is calling out the DCFS for their abominable handling of his case. Make some noise, Jon, if those kids are left with an unfit mother because the house is clean and she cooks...well, kind of."
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I don't think Charlie Sheen has any kind of credibility in the parenting department. He has what, almost half a dozen kids and they're all being raised by their mothers or paid for nannies.
He has the balls to publicly insult a judge's orders for custody but makes no motion whatsoever to intervene and raise his own children.
Yeah, there's a pillar of parenthood we should measure anyone against.
Handinhand....yep.
38..who knows..what a sad situation for 8 kids until they will be able to break free and talk 4 themselves.
Really Hallmark? REALLY?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZkRYta7z8
Nice example for the kids, Jon. This is on par with Kate's allowing a stranger to lick her foot. I give up with these two 'parents'.
I don't think Charlie Sheen has any kind of credibility in the parenting department. He has what, almost half a dozen kids and they're all being raised by their mothers or paid for nannies.
He has the balls to publicly insult a judge's orders for custody but makes no motion whatsoever to intervene and raise his own children.
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Charlie doesn't win high parenting marks from me either. I do like the way he is publicly calling out the DFCS though, given what they're allowing his ex to get away with.
Fencer said... 47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZkRYta7z8
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Oh dear. Jon is letting the attention go to hid head again, IMO. Poor kids.
Looks like the other rag mag sites are picking up ROL's stupid story about Jon and Hailey.
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Jon should expect this. A lot of this, actually. He knew what he was doing when he agreed to do that sleazy show. No pity here. smh
It's only going to get worse. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, 8 kids are raising themselves.
How does anyone who wasn't there know exactly how much he focused on the divorce, not to mention what he did in regards to custody?
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Kate moved swiftly in all of this while he time spent on dalliances with Kate Majors, Hailey in the South of France, hosting pool appearances in California and talking reality shows with Michael Lohan.
I tend to agree with handinhand as well. I do recognize he was feeling free from the years of abuse he suffered, but he was very open about enjoying his new life in NYC, talking about Hailey being the love of his life, living large, etc. I shook my head when he stated 'his favorite Louis Vuitton shoes were slashed' during the so-called robbery. BOTH he and Kate were spending $400 or more on one pair of shoes and other lots of other garbage, while their kids were dressed in freebies. At that time, he was just as guilty as she was. He had a snazzy sports car, very expensive things like Louis Vuitton, which I GUARANTEE were not comped like all her Ann Taylor stuff. His rent alone was at least $3,000 and probably more. Even though he knew he was being scrutinized every step of the way, he just kept happily making bad decisions. And he did know what went on in that house, and nobody could blame him for getting out. I just wish he'd had a quieter grand reawakening while his kids were suffering during such a confusing time. His reality hit years before hers did, if hers even has (doubtful) and I'm glad he changed his ways and focused more on the kids. I hope this show paints him in at least an OK light but I have my doubts. Time will tell.
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Fired Up 4 Kate@MiloandJack4m
@Kateplusmy8 Great job flying under the radar Kate! & of course Ur working! Can't wait 2see U tomorrow morning at 10am on @hallmarkchannel
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I think it's more like "nobody cares", Milo. No pap photos of her in L.A., and only one day's notice of her being on this show.
She's done.
I do have to wonder why HCI never announced this upcoming appearance like they did for the appearances when the book was released. Was this some sort of last-minute pacification of a screaming, hysterical has-been D-lister who recently found out her ex had a VH1 show taping??
Fencer said... 47
''https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZkRYta7z8
Nice example for the kids, Jon. This is on par with Kate's allowing a stranger to lick her foot. I give up with these two 'parents'.''
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What? I believe you should watch that youtube thing again. Jon ignored the idiot who pretended that stupid action! I responded to Pat about that clip upthread, saying that Jon had ten years experience ignoring stupidity, and after re-watching it, I think you're really reaching to condemn JON.
Right Milo. Under the radar. Jon flew coach and had a random guy tweeting about how nice he was. did TFW fly first class in a wig and sunglasses? Where are the paps? Or are the paps only in Wernersville PA and not Calofornia?
Fencer 47 & Formerly 49
Imo that clip was quick and silly and isn't nearly as gross as TWF's foot licking scene.
Still not opining about the CT show itself.
Remona Blue said... 52
Fencer said... 47
''https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZkRYta7z8
Nice example for the kids, Jon. This is on par with Kate's allowing a stranger to lick her foot. I give up with these two 'parents'.''
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What? I believe you should watch that youtube thing again. Jon ignored the idiot who pretended that stupid action! I responded to Pat about that clip upthread, saying that Jon had ten years experience ignoring stupidity, and after re-watching it, I think you're really reaching to condemn JON.
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Agree, Remona. Jon's just trying to be affable and give a little interview. The Amazon and the personal space invader were being rude and immature, trying to get into any frame they could.
Jon just tried his best to ignore them vs. putting his hand in that bitch's face and telling her to F off.
Is this like a drunken Kate having her foot licked by some bafoon? No way.
Remona Blue said... 52
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It's just a snippet but I agree with Fencer. At 25-26 seconds, was that appropriate of Jon? I like Jon well enough but would rather see him remain private. JMO.
The haters are cracking me up. They can be so funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZkRYta7z8
I'm sorry this is nothing compared to a letting a man lick you foot and afterwords slamming your ex.
Looks like Jon was having a little fun while mocking Miley-(licking his tongue out).
Also KK posed with two fans in short-shorts and hooker heels.
I think you're really reaching to condemn JON.
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Nah. Jon's doing that all by himself.
Kate ignored the guy licking her foot too. So? They're both disgusting acts for their children to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZkRYta7z8
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What's so funny is when little ms. personal space invader tries to get her photo snapped with Jon (who the paps are obviously there for) by kissing him, absolutely ZERO flashes. When Jon pulls away from her and gets some distance, the cameras click away.
Too funny. Sorry, ladies.
What? I believe you should watch that youtube thing again. Jon ignored the idiot who pretended that stupid action! I responded to Pat about that clip upthread, saying that Jon had ten years experience ignoring stupidity, and after re-watching it, I think you're really reaching to condemn JON.
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He certainly did ignore her. In fact, watch his face. He was smiling before she did that, went expressionless while she was down... like he was embarrassed. Not only that, he didn't seem happy that she kissed him. He made no effort to reciprocate or touch her in any way. No arms around either one of them. His hands were in his jacket the whole time.
It's just a snippet but I agree with Fencer. At 25-26 seconds, was that appropriate of Jon? I like Jon well enough but would rather see him remain private.**************************************
Me too. You know, like he SAID he was going to be? If he's done filming, why isn't he going home to his kids?
In fairness, all those jaunts Jon took were paid opportunities, and if it's not his custodial time what does it matter where he is? Kate went off to LA and Mexico when it wasn't her custodial time for paid gigs. She also took off for Australia for the zoo thing WITHOUT the kids.
The trip to France was for Ed Hardy. He even explained that the Ed Hardy deal had the potential to set his kids FOR LIFE but eventually TLC stopped it. And THAT'S why he was chasing that down in the hopes that he could say here judge i've got X amount of money for the kids now can they please be taken off TV? When these little gigs dried up, he went back to PA and has been there ever since.
I just don't see how these things are any different than an executive who has to go out of town. If we condemn Jon and Kate for it too harshly then every parent who ever travels for work must be condemned.
I think ideally it's nice not to have a job that takes you away from home that much and I've seen children suffer when their mom was ALWAYS out of town (always for work, NEVER for pleasure), but it doesn't in and of itself make you a bad parent. Plus, if you can make more money than most people make in three years with just ONE little two week trip, that might be a wise decision for many parents. Maybe Jon will be able to free up lots of time now to be able to ask the judge to ask for that extra day he wants.
I also find it funny all the numerous sightings of Jon in LA and NONE of Kate, who is in the same city. Is she that anti social or do people just not care? I think it's also possible that due to her new generic plastic look she might blend in in LA. If she puts sunglasses on she looks like every other dumb blond. Jon is more recognizable. She should have kept her reverse mullet, there would be a lot more sightings. There is a brand new Nobu right on the water, she should check it out.
And Jon appears to be ignoring the goof, who, in fairness, he KNOWS and just spent 2 weeks with. He can't control how another cast member behaves. He didn't LET a stranger lick his foot.
I'm wondering if Milo is making all those ridiculous tweets just to bait the non-fans. Some of the things she says can't possibly be said for any other reason. Flying under the radar? More likely snubbed and ignored by everyone. Claiming that TFW's few minutes on a show that few people even know exists is better than Jon's 8 hour-long episodes (and how furious is TFW that the number 8 is somehow associated with Jon and not her?).
(S)he just tweeted that it's a perfect fit for TFW at Hallmark Channel and (s)he hopes it's the start of a great partnership. TFW is only doing a small segment, yet every time TFW gets some small bit somewhere, Milo is all over them to turn it into something big. After CWS she was pestering ABC to give TFW a new show. She thinks every talk show should make TFW one of the hosts/corespondents. Now she's doing the same thing with Hallmark Channel. If anyone at the network reads those kinds of tweets, wouldn't they find it kind of creepy? Doesn't it make TFW look desperate? Or is Milo just trying to get a response from the non-fans? You have to think that gushing over some pseudo-celeb for years on end with very little response has got to get old. So, like the other sheeple, she is drawn to TFW's twitter for the conflict with non-fans. Instead of being in-your-face nasty like Ms Goody, she couches her baiting tactics as over-the-top praise of TFW. Milo gets the same response, which is perhaps what (s)he is going for in the first place.
Oh, and by the way, Milo (we know you swim here in our little "cesspool"), Hallmark Channel films that show in LA. TFW lives in rural PA. Not gonna work out. Sorry!
Kate went off to LA and Mexico when it wasn't her custodial time for paid gigs.
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Don't forget the KY Derby and Vegas... oh, and DWTS and the awards show (not the year she was in the opening, the year after).
Kate spends a ton of "me" time away from the kids.
Me too. You know, like he SAID he was going to be? If he's done filming, why isn't he going home to his kids?
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It's Thursday. I think even both Kate and Jon have said that if it's his weekend it doesn't start until Friday. Why can't he leave tonight or in the morning? He'll be back in plenty of time for his children.
A wrap party is probably part of his contract especially since the media showed up. Also it's just good common courtesy to attend the wrap party. It's an opportunity to thank the rest of the cast and crew for their hard work and exchange presents. You don't want to seem like a snob too good for such things if you want the next job and the next. I have been to one wrap party for a short lived CW comedy, as I was hired along with a girlfriend to help with the drinks and food because I knew the people whose house it was at, and EVERYONE went, right down to the little guy. It was fun. Didn't see anything inappropriate.
I don't like that he is doing this show either but condemning him for a standard wrap party, an inappropriate cast member he had absolutely no control over, and not rushing back to PA on a day where he doesn't have the kids ANYWAY, is unfair.
As for Kate's foot licking, she actively put herself in a skanky club around all kinds of seedy people, and got so drunk that Jamie even admitted they were not only drunk, her words, but hung over the next day, her words. There was no reason for that. None. There was no reason she and Jamie couldn't have gone to a classy restaurant and had a nice meal and maybe some ballroom dancing instead and behave like people their ages. As I said in my recap, if you're old enough to have business cards, you're probably too old for that club. Maybe if she weren't so drunk, she would have seen that foot licking guy was up to no good.
That US Air flight which I've taken is direct to Philly, by the way. Leaves all throughout the day and is four hours tops going that direction, 5 odd hours going westward. He'll be home before lunchtime whenever he goes, and if that is his custodial day, he'll be back hours before he picks up his kids. Why can't he go to the wrap party then?
You know I wish I knew how many copies Kate would have sold of her book if the properly promoted it, such as tweeting about her Hallmark appearance in a timely manner and keeping her web site nice and updated.
The lost sales have to be in the hundreds at least, and if the book were any good in the thousands. When you are so lazy you are even willing to lose that many sales in the name of laziness, that's pretty bad.
Why can't he leave tonight or in the morning? He'll be back in plenty of time for his children
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Because he's been away for, what, 2 weeks? Because they've obviously been looked after by a babysitter since Kate's filming, too? I expected better of him. Kate's a complete write off but I had hope for Jon.
Tucker's Mom said... 65
Kate went off to LA and Mexico when it wasn't her custodial time for paid gigs.
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Don't forget the KY Derby and Vegas... oh, and DWTS and the awards show (not the year she was in the opening, the year after).
Kate spends a ton of "me" time away from the kids.
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And her birthdays away in NYC and her trips to LV with Steven and Chicago and the Derby's and Halloween that one time.
I hope you do a post on KK's hallmark cooking demo Admi cause I don't get that channel.
Maybe Kate is planning to take the lack of sales as a tax write for a business expense. Just a thought. I'm not a tax accountant, just a tax paying citizen.
Kate also went to the DWTS parties. The cast is expected to show up. Don't forget, Kate also said she'd be gone Sat thru Tues, but she wound up being away like 5 days a week, per Robert, who observed her house every single day at that time.
Kate was way, way liberal with her time away from the kids. Robert also mentions that the kids didn't get to celebrate Thanksgiving until the next day, Black Friday, because Kate was too tired from traveling back from CA.
A little OT, but when I went back and watched CWS, Kate makes a huge point of saying she has only part time help (uh, well, your kids are gone 10 hours a day and you have them every OTHER weekend, so...) and that she does all the cooking, and then goes on to say that she "overseas" the grocery shopping, laundry, cleaning.
So, if you ever wonder why a mom of 8 goes to the grocery store and comes out with 3-4 bags, it's because she doesn't do the big shopping. She "puts away" $700 worth of groceries, but she didn't buy it.
She's also NEVER been seen with more than one cart.
Liar.
I guarantee the DWTS wrap a parties are written right into the contract. Skipping them is NOT optional.
Because he's been away for, what, 2 weeks? Because they've obviously been looked after by a babysitter since Kate's filming, too? I expected better of him. Kate's a complete write off but I had hope for Jon.
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I do not like that Jon's doing this crap show, but he absolutely can not control the fact that Kate is going away too, and the kids will be with a nanny.
When Robert was on the Gosselin story, this happened all the time. And, when Kate finally did come home, she was right off to her usual Target, mani'pedi and tanning instead of staying home with the kids.
Jon has no nanny, so when the kids are with him, he's with them. Very different from Kate, who loves them from afar and who, if she had her way, would spend 50% of the time away from them.
I think the reason Kate does not tweet about her appearances is that she really doesn't care about her audience; she only cares about herself, and wraps herself totally around the 'me, all mine' experiences. Public, pweff, who cares? She does not see the long term picture at all.
Milo is a fool/tool. Kate has zero talent. They make a great pair. The only thing that pains me is that there are apparently people who are still willing to pay her or treat her to some 'stah' perks, no matter how small. She who deserves nothing.
This is working, Milo? I cannot decide which one of the two of you is more pathetic.
Hmmm....wrap party on one hand, my children on another....
I'll take the kids every dang time. *shrug*
Exactly Tucker, Jon can't control when Kate decides to ditch the kids on HER time and he can't drop everything to work around her fly by night schedule.
Jon's flight was likely round trip and booked by the producers ages ago. He can't easily change his flight, that flight is full every stinking day and especially at the end of the week.
In fact I'm willing to bet the Hallmark thing was a last minute scramble to get her SOMETHING to rival Jon. How immature and spiteful of her, if so, and certainly not thinking of the kids. We never heard a peep about it until it was about to happen. What is Jon expected to do, skip out on a contractually obligated party and possibly screw himself contractually and get in an even bigger legal mess? Is he supposed to go down to the massive sprawl nightmare that is LAX and deal with US Air workers giving him dirty looks as he asks to stand by every overbooked flight of the night until he finally gets on in the broken seat in the very back? What about Liz? TWO standby tickets? TWO people breaking contractual obligations? I mean that's ridiculous.
He decided to do the show and that stinks, fair enough. But once he did decide, he has to stay on the flight he's already on and go to a party he's obligated to go to. There is nothing wrong about that at all.
If anything, Kate should have been the one to change HER schedule. Hers was just a little guest appearance. She couldn't have worked it out so she could appear on ANY OTHER WEEK THE ENTIRE YEAR but this one?? And she didn't HAVE to go to NYC, she could have had someone come to her or heaven forbid skip the glamming up all together. There are many things Kate could have done so that she didn't ditch the kids at the same time Jon was out of town. He hasn't been out of town in AGES, she could have made this work. This is NOT Jon's fault, period.
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Milo's gone right around the bend. Since when does slipping into town unnoticed and not promoting your cookbook get high fives?
Hmmm....wrap party on one hand, my children on another....
I'll take the kids every dang time. *shrug*
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Have you ever waited standby at LAX? There is no guarantee he could even GET home if he wanted to. I KNOW this flight to Philly I was just ON it three weeks ago and it's full to the brim. I doubt he would even get on.
As has been explained, wrap parties are regularly written into contracts because they are often media events. Jon is supposed to break his CONTRACT? HUH???? And then he haas VH1 suing him for breach of contract? What's the point of making all that money if you lose it all because you screwed up your contract?
And what message does that send to Kate? You can manipulate me and do whatever you want while I'm away and I will always come bolting back to bail you out? I don't think so.
Milo's gone right around the bend. Since when does slipping into town unnoticed and not promoting your cookbook get high fives?
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LOL exactly. Why is it a good idea to fly under the radar on a BOOK TOUR? Sheesh, if anything, that is the most idiotic idea in the world.
If anything, Kate should have been the one to change HER schedule.
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I have no idea why this appearance is so far from her book's release and her appearances have been ineffectual in garnering any surges in her book sales.
Why she's travel across the country for this piddly gig is beyond me. Well, that's not entirely true. Kate will stretch this out into a nice week a vacay including a trip to her favorite, The Grove, which is what? a fricking shopping mall.
Whoop de dooooooooooooooooooooo
Over And Out said... 43
How does anyone who wasn't there know exactly how much he focused on the divorce, not to mention what he did in regards to custody? Do we really know that he didn't fight for custody, and moreover how much time (and money) was spent in court over custody issues? You can only fight so much, go to court only so many times until you realize that it's a lost cause when each time you get shot down. I would imagine that judges get pretty darn fed up each time you appear in front of them.
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Thank you, Over & Out. It kills me when sheeple (waving at you Lucille, baaaaa) delusionally insist Jon has the kids ONLY every OTHER weekend and ONE night per week. Why? Because that's what Kate says? Pfffffft. When is the last time Kate has mentioned a nanny or babysitter? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
Jon keeps the kids when Kate travels. Jon gets called to pick up sick kids at school. And he probably does a lot more than we know. But we don't know. Neither do you. What we DO know, Lucille, is that in order to have his support revoked IN PENNSYLVANIA, Jon had to PROVE to the judge he was having the kids for a certain percentage of time throughout the year. In other words, his monetary obligation was only absolved because of the considerable amount of time the children were/are spending in his custody. Some months it may be more. Some months it may be less. As a whole, it is enough time to revoke child support. It doesn't matter what Kate says or what you want to believe. This is the law.
LOL exactly. Why is it a good idea to fly under the radar on a BOOK TOUR? Sheesh, if anything, that is the most idiotic idea in the world.
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Milo's said some idiotic things but I think she topped herself with that one.
Of course think of all the money these big corporations could save by "flying under the radar." No commercials! Why aren't the Budweiser marketing guys telling them not to advertise during the Super Bowl? Fly under the radar instead!!
Tucker's Mom said... 74
Kate also went to the DWTS parties. The cast is expected to show up. Don't forget, Kate also said she'd be gone Sat thru Tues, but she wound up being away like 5 days a week, per Robert, who observed her house every single day at that time.
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Wasn't she gone for over 20 days at one time during her DWTS debacle? Admin had a calendar up if IIRC. I remember she was text-parenting them, too. Such a good mommy.
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@KatePlusMy8 KATE! I re sent my email to you about the project for Lexi. I accidentally sent it a few times. Sorry about that. LOL!
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 79
Milo's gone right around the bend. Since when does slipping into town unnoticed and not promoting your cookbook get high fives?
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LOL exactly. Why is it a good idea to fly under the radar on a BOOK TOUR? Sheesh, if anything, that is the most idiotic idea in the world.
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I wouldn't see that as good.
She's there promoting a book while doing a TV appearance and no one cares.-(besides Milo)
Heck Kate didn't even care to let people know what she was doing.
Nevermind about that project for Lexi tweet. It's just some promotional tweeter. Has nothing to do with Kate or her kids.
LOL exactly. Why is it a good idea to fly under the radar on a BOOK TOUR? Sheesh, if anything, that is the most idiotic idea in the world.
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When it comes to Kate, Milo hasn't exactly been known to play with a full deck! It's a desperate attempt to hail Kate as a hero while trying to somehow explain why she wasn't noticed and photographed. She just need to shut the heck up because all she's doing is making Kate look more irrelevant than she already is.
And what message does that send to Kate? You can manipulate me and do whatever you want while I'm away and I will always come bolting back to bail you out? I don't think so.
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Who gives a crap what 'message' It sends to Kate? What message is ANY of this sending to the kids?? I include both Jon AND Kate in that.
The Grove, which is what? a fricking shopping mall.
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A freaking shopping mall, that's freaking hard to get to, with freaking expensive parking.
A wrap party on one hand...my children on another...
How do we know that he was even able to see them if he came back early? If his custody time starts on Friday after school, he may not even be able to take them earlier. Depends on what the legal arrangements are, and we just don't know that. Wednesdays and Thursdays are not his custody days. Why blame him for being away when he couldn't see them even if he was home?
People keep slamming Jon for spending non-custodial time away from the kids. We have heard about his apartment in New York so many times, but the fact is--he was there in PA with the kids when he had custody. It was rumored (we still don't know if it's true) that TFW bought a condo in MD, and that she spent time there during her non-custodial time. Once again, of they're not supposed to be with the kids, then what does it matter where they stay?
Jon may not even know that TFW is in LA. Who would have told him? Certainly not TFW. THis HC thing sounds like a last-minute thing, and she probably didn't have much notice, either. So, how would Jon know?
The Pioneer Woman and Sarah Palin are both on book tours. They tweet and facebook and offer snapshots of their tours and are constantly promoting and sharing their experiences.
Additionally, The Pioneer Woman definitely knows how to promote as she gives away a custom painted (to match her cookbook) KitchenAid Mixer every other week.
What does TFW do? She skirts off, incognito, to some 5 minute interview on the Hallmark channel and doesn't even bother to notify her most ardent sheep...er...fans.
What a tool.
Because Kate doesn't get to dictate the agenda here.
Do you know how gleeful and validated Kate would feel if Jon moved heaven and earth and even broke a contract to rush back when she decided to abandon her children on her time? If he gives in, she will do it to him again and again, over and over.
He is not her doormat anymore. She is to follow the custodial order at all times and she is not to manipulate him into bailing her out by trying to mess around with it. She needs to accept that sometimes he will go out of town too and she is not to USE the children to try to draw him back and sabotage his opportunities. So yes, the message is important for the future of both Jon and his children and for the future of their right to quiet, peaceful and uninterrupted custodial time. By not giving in to her crap, he sends her a message this behavior is unacceptable and will not be tolerated. If he gives into it, he's in for 10 more years of misery and manipulation.
Jon may not even know that TFW is in LA. Who would have told him? Certainly not TFW.
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Exactly, did he even know she was up to this? And when he did find out it was likely far too late to do anything about it. He even said at least twice Kate does not tell him what she does. He was very clear she is as tight lipped as the CIA about her and the kids.
He knew nothing about CWS and many other things she has done. Even Kate admits he was not involved in CWS at all.
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''The haters are cracking me up. They can be so funny.''
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No kidding. The ones coming onto this blog all full of righteous indignation about Jon not leaving LA on Thursday before the wrap party when it's not even his custodial time, and didn't smack some idiot in the face when she played the fool are cracking me up! Some are getting careless and leaving 'tells'.
The message it sends to the kids is that they are not their mother's pawns.
The message it sends to the kids is that manipulation is not okay. The message it sends to the kids is that being a victim of a manipulator is not okay either.
How does he explain that to the kids? Well I know I said I was supposed to be in LA until we see each on Friday but Mommy decided to take off for LA too so now I'm back early so you don't get dumped on the nanny. The kids would be hopelessly confused by that and not sure who to be upset with. After just explaining to them how important this job is suddenly he's home early because their mother messed around and drew him back with her antics?
No, that is NOT okay. That's the message.
We've heard that 'fly under the radar' thing before from TFW.
She always sounds so proud of herself, that she flew under that radar when in reality it was something that she was supposed to promote.
Absolutely makes NO sense.
Personally I think she's afraid if it gets out what she's doing that people will sabotage it, contacting whoever it is to let them know they don't want to hear/see TFW.....ever.
The Pioneer Woman and Sarah Palin are both on book tours. They tweet and facebook and offer snapshots of their tours and are constantly promoting and sharing their experiences.
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Yes, so is Giada. She's been instagramming all kinds of photos from the book tour. Appearances, book stores, lines.
Melissa Gilbert is writing a book and she instagrams photos from the photoshoots and test recipes. It is really not that hard to do this. It is common sense. Melissa Gibert didn't even go to college.
Fencer said... 93
And what message does that send to Kate? You can manipulate me and do whatever you want while I'm away and I will always come bolting back to bail you out? I don't think so.
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Who gives a crap what 'message' It sends to Kate? What message is ANY of this sending to the kids?? I include both Jon AND Kate in that.
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Whatever the custody arrangement is, if Jon sticks to it, the message being sent is that the kids will know that when it's dad's custodial time, they will be with him.
The message that has long been sent by their mother is - if I feel like taking off during my custodial time, then I will. Don't count on me.
That's the message being sent.
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Sue, I'm thinking that 'do the math' person is that tacky and rude LanaBanana person.
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When I read the "do the math" comment - I did it. Except the math I did was adding up the rudeness with the incorrect information and the result was = I don't need to read anything further from this person. :)
I wonder if Kate gives a hoot about the book sales. I don't think she does. She's just been so selfish about this. She wants the travel and tv time, but doesn't share this journey with her fans like the people mentioned above.
Milo, Kate is selfish and not involved with her fans, but for the occasional Twitter, mostly to soak up the accolades and RT about her book. Otherwise? Nothing.
Menu Mondays? Gone
Shoka Diaries? Nuh huh
"Throwback Thursdays"?- Came and went
Coupons by Kate?- doesn't even mention it anymore and I believe she's just paid to lend her name and likeness to the really shitty website.
She has zero follow through when it comes to giving to her fans. If you expected her to share her book journey with you, you'd be pretty let down.
I also think it's important for the future of the children's own relationships that they not witness such incredible dysfunction. It is dysfunctional, period, for Jon to rush home early just because Kate decided she cannot STAND that Jon got a reality show so she has to pamper and spoil herself and take off for her own LA jaunt. The kids will witness him drawn back like that and think either one of two things: if you pull enough of that nonsense you can get whatever you want out of someone, or, it's okay to let someone pull nonsense like that on you and you should just give in.
There are a lot of lessons to be processed here, and the decision not to bail Kate out because she decided of ALL days she has to go on Hallmark NOW, was the correct one. The kids will process the right lessons here and draw on them when they have their own relationships someday. When Friday rolls around the schedule they are used to will resume with Dad and many years from now they will remember how Dad didn't let mom run the show here, that it was okay to just follow the schedule no matter how ridiculous your ex is. The kids are in school most of the week anyway. They will be fine.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 81
''Exactly Tucker, Jon can't control when Kate decides to ditch the kids on HER time and he can't drop everything to work around her fly by night schedule.''
''...There are many things Kate could have done so that she didn't ditch the kids at the same time Jon was out of town. He hasn't been out of town in AGES, she could have made this work. This is NOT Jon's fault, period.''
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 83
''...And what message does that send to Kate? You can manipulate me and do whatever you want while I'm away and I will always come bolting back to bail you out? I don't think so.''
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AMEN!
if you pull enough of that nonsense you can get whatever you want out of someone, or, it's okay to let someone pull nonsense like that on you and you should just give in.
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OR...at least one parent gives a heck about us.
The Pioneer Woman and Sarah Palin are both on book tours. They tweet and facebook and offer snapshots of their tours and are constantly promoting and sharing their experiences.
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Yes, so is Giada. She's been instagramming all kinds of photos from the book tour. Appearances, book stores, lines.
Melissa Gilbert is writing a book and she instagrams photos from the photoshoots and test recipes. It is really not that hard to do this. It is common sense. Melissa Gibert didn't even go to college.
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For heaven's sakes. Don't they all know that they are doing this all WRONG? When you want to promote something, you fly under the radar. Works every time. Haven't their publicists told them that? Sheesh!
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Localyocul said... 58
''The haters are cracking me up. They can be so funny.''
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No kidding. The ones coming onto this blog all full of righteous indignation about Jon not leaving LA on Thursday before the wrap party when it's not even his custodial time, and didn't smack some idiot in the face when she played the fool are cracking me up! Some are getting careless and leaving 'tells'.
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Yep.
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@Kateplusmy8 Great job flying under the radar Kate! & of course Ur working! Can't wait 2see U tomorrow morning at 10am on
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No Milo, this isn't a job. Not even close. This is Kate leaving her children to fly across the country to appear on an obscure chat show for 5-10 minutes. To promote a dud of a book she didn't bother to promote while on her book tour. I don't think any paycheck is involved, in fact TFW should pay Home & Family for agreeing to let her sorry ass on the show.
Is Christina Ferrare still a host? That woman is a first class seasoned cook, with many cookbooks under her belt. I'm sure she will be stifiling many a snicker when Kate uhhhs and ummms her way through her can opening and Kraft mac & cheese box opening. Milo, you never fail to show us that there is 1,001 ways to polish a turd and put a bow on it.
How in the world is it dysfunctional for Jon to come home early to be with his own children??? He doesn't have to say anything about Kate not being there and not wanting to leave them with nannies. He could say he missed them and wanted to spend a little extra time with them. Not saying that I think he should come home early, but for God's sake, it certainly wouldn't be dysfunctional!
Is Christina Ferrare still a host? That woman is a first class seasoned cook, with many cookbooks under her belt. I'm sure she will be stifiling many a snicker when Kate uhhhs and ummms her way through her can opening and Kraft mac & cheese box opening. Milo, you never fail to show us that there is 1,001 ways to polish a turd and put a bow on it.
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I'm hoping Kate makes "Yuck Pie." Such a festive and delicious sounding desert and great for the holidays.
I can't believe the Hallmark Channel is having Kate do anything on any of their shows. Very irritated with them. First they don't renew my favorite cooking show, Mad Hungry, and replace it with a short lived Marie Osmond talk show, now they have the gall to give Kate Gosselin even 5 minutes air time? I wonder if she's going to do a short segment on the morning show they have, with two hosts (male and female)? I don't watch the show, but I see commercials for it when I'm watching reruns of I Love Lucy.
Some are getting careless and leaving 'tells'.
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Yes, indeed, Remona. I noticed that, too. Reminds me of Rosie O'Donnell's line in "Sleepless In Seattle:"
"It's cute. It's like a little clue."
Millicent said... 103
''Whatever the custody arrangement is, if Jon sticks to it, the message being sent is that the kids will know that when it's dad's custodial time, they will be with him.
The message that has long been sent by their mother is - if I feel like taking off during my custodial time, then I will. Don't count on me.
That's the message being sent.''
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Millicent, once again your words are right on point! When it is Daddy's time, he is here. When it is Mommy's time she will be here IF she wants to be! That is exactly the message being sent!!
You are also right about the ''do the math'' nonsense. Yours was correct, and the other was go right past ''this person''.
OR...at least one parent gives a heck about us.
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Ok, but I really doubt the kids think Jon doesn't care about them because he had to work. We've all seen how much they adore him. They are well old enough to understand Dad has to work and he'll be gone for X days and make money for the family and then he'll be back. They're not idiots or fragile. They are not the first kids whose parent went on a 2 week business trip. They'll survive.
I disagree a lot with Suzy Orman but I like what she says about working. She says never make a kid feel sad about work or say things like I wish I could be home with you, or break my contract to be with you, or stand in line for 6 hours at LAX on standby trying to get home to you. A kid needs to understand work is necessary for the family and sometimes I have to be away so that they don't live their adult lives on one perpetual guilt trip with their own children. It was TWO WEEKS out of the past TWO YEARS he's been around!
Again they don't see him ANYWAY on Thursday so all this does is keep them on a schedule and routine. It's fine.
Also we've talked about this before but I alway tell my clients to stick to the schedule. Once in awhile is fine but making it a habit is a BAD IDEA. Not only is it confusing and disruptive to the children, but it starts giving the other parent power and control. A parental alienator with a personality disorder would run with that and next thing you know the entire arrangement is in turmoil. And, it's unfair to you, especially if you're paying support, because the other parent is getting away with giving you "free" days without reducing your support.
Stick to the schedule, stick to the schedule, stick to the schedule. It's so important I considered making buttons lol.
She's just been so selfish about this. She wants the travel and tv time, but doesn't share this journey with her fans like the people mentioned above.
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The selfishness is the bottom line. As much as the sheep drive me crazy, I don't like how she treats them. If you don't care about your fans, that's fine, but then don't encourage them. Some celebs don't much like the fan aspect of it but then they don't tweet them or offer to do things for them or let their kids sit in their laps.
I think how she's treated them during this book tour when they've all been over the top supportive is shameful. I feel sorry for them that they tolerate someone so incredibly selfish and rude in their life. Her relationship with her fans is almost all one sided, with rare exceptions like how nice she was to Paige. Kate gets the most out of the relationship, and the fans get squat. What she did to them over that cruise was even worse. Cruel even. That says a lot about who they are. I suspect a lot of them are enabler personalities.
Isn't Jon wearing the same clothes as the video posted on TMZ yesterday? It's an evening video and was posted yesterday, so presumably it was taped on Tuesday night or earlier. Jon is probably long home by now.
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That youtube video was posted yesterday, and he's wearing the same clothes in the TMZ video, also posted yesterday morning. They are both evening videos and would have had to be taped Tuesday night or earlier. Jon could technically be on his second full day/night at home for all anyone knows.
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The videos of Jon(both the Youtube one and TMZ one) at what looked like a wrap party seem to have occurred on Tuesday. Who's to say that Jon is not already home?
Also, in the video on Youtube, when the woman "goes down" on Jon, she may have been jokingly patting him down checking for a gun, not doing what other people think. While she's doing that, the pap asks Jon if he's "packing heat".
BTW, that woman and the other one are also appearing on the show. The one who went down on Jon is Whitney Mixler who is appearing with her wife, Sara Bettencourt.
Like I said above, it really is all about being seen and being treated for Kate. She slopped together that cookbook, exploited the children all over it, but once done it was only a mechanism for her to get airtime for her, and only her. Selling it was not her end game, too much work. She would probably have preferred that Katie Couric call her up to NY sans kids, for a few days of Katetime, rather than share those minutes with the kids, same for People magazine. She says the kids miss filming, but I truly thinks she wants any future project to be about her only.
Flying under the radar? What's the point of that, except to keep people from 'doing the math' and realizing once again the kids are being kept by the not a nanny she doesn't hire. 5 minutes in LA? No problem, just call Skeevio, and pay him too. Nothing will keep her from a camera.
I think how she's treated them during this book tour when they've all been over the top supportive is shameful. I feel sorry for them that they tolerate someone so incredibly selfish and rude in their life. Her relationship with her fans is almost all one sided, with rare exceptions like how nice she was to Paige. Kate gets the most out of the relationship, and the fans get squat. What she did to them over that cruise was even worse. Cruel even. That says a lot about who they are. I suspect a lot of them are enabler personalities.
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But, admin, don't you think that most of them are happy that she just throws them a bone now and then? Not that it's right, of course, after all of the "support" they give her, but look at many of them. They tweet celebrities like they are their intimate friends, calling them buddies, telling them what they are cooking for dinner, when they are going out of town, asking celebrities if they remember when they met them at a show, and instantly they are friends with that celebrity. Kate's not the only one they tweet, but if she tweets or retweets them then they feel so special. It's the closest they are ever in their lifetimes going to get to "talking" to someone famous. I'm not so sure it's specifically Kate many of them worship. Rather, it's any celebrity who will give them the time of day. It's interesting to read the timelines of several of them and see what they believe to be a relationship with that celebrity. Interesting, but sad, because a celebrity really doesn't care if a fan took her daughter out for a birthday dinner.
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Another one. Sheesh, what is your agenda here?
"Selectively, yes. I think when it suits him, he ignores what's best for the kids " You cannot be serious! Have you watched the show. She was the most absent Mother I have ever known.
NEVER has Jon ever done what suits him. Always Jon has come through for his children, and always in a unselfish way. He slaved away hour after hour in an unselfich way,dead on his feet for sure. The along comes a wooden spoon like you. Get your facts straight before you use you wide brush on a good man and father.
You sound like ex-nurse.
I will always champion Jon, he is a rock and a soft place for his children to fall since the moment he laid eyes on them. I had a father just like him.
The witch was never hands on. I have never witnessed a heart tugging moment from that creature even when they were newborns. Kate Gosselin is missing the natural love gene that the rest of us have.
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All the information about Kate that has taken this blog years to discover.
YEARS, I think not, how about two or three episodes of her abuse.
My husband would not tolerate that witch on our TV in the bedroom a very long time age. And he said, "you yell at the TV" Why are you watching this? I wised up. She was a horror. She still is. Thank the stars those childre have a gentle soul for a DAD.
You're right Millicent. I'd forgotten about LanaBanana.
I'm curious about what other divorced moms here have to say about sticking with the schedule. I'm divorced, and we did have the standard court ordered visitation. But if we deviated from it for any reason, my kids most certainly were not confused by it. Sometimes things came up, either one of the kids had a function, or their dad had to change his work schedule,etc. I can think of several times that they went to their dad's when it wasn't "his" day, and times that they didn't go when it was his time. Of course structure and schedules are important, but I would be more concerned if my kids were upset by having to spend time with their own dad on an off-schedule day.
We're talking about those kids being with their father for crying out loud. How is that dysfunctional or confusing?
I am so sorry if I have double posts about the timing of the videos. I was trying to post from my phone and it got hung up so I went to the desktop and when I looked at my phone later, it said my original comment would be posted.
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OT Fun video on YouTube. Search for Shannon Montsinger Music, she and her friends got together and did Girls Night Out funny video.
I have been reading up on Couples Therapy casts for the first the seasons. there is one rapper each season: 1 was DMX with his wife, 2 was Too Short and his gf Monica, and JoJo and Tiny, 3 was Chingy Bailey and gf Temple, 4 is Ghostface Killah and Kelsey. Y'all should understand that Wu Tang Clan that Ghostface is part of is an extremely successful rap/ hip hop group, and he has lots of fans of all ages.
The gay couple: season 1 was Reichen and Rodney, season 4 is Whitney and Sada.
MTV reality ”stars” : 1 was Angelina and Chris, 3 was Carolyn and Tyler, and Dustin and Heather, 4 is Farah.
Bachelor ” stars”: 1 was Vienna and Kasey, 2 was Shayne Llamas and Nik. Real Housewives: 2 was Alex and Simon, 4 is Taylor and John.
Reality TV train wrecks: 1 was Linda Hogan and Charlie, 2 wad Courtney and Doug, 3 was Joe Francis and Abby, 4 is Farah.
See what i'm talking about? Jon and Liz are THE NORMAL PEOPLE.they will be the straight men, aghast at the antics of their housemates. This is how they have been cast!
Regarding the criticism of Jon traveling vs Kate traveling:
I personally don't have a problem with for many of the reasons Admin stated. Jon, I don't feel at least, sets himself up as a perfect parent and doesn't try to give an impression that he is with his children 24/7 like Kate does (or at least that's my impression). So frankly if he has chosen to take a job out of state for two weeks that will net him income for whatever expenses he chooses to spend it on, I say more power to him. Would I have chosen to do this counseling show? No, but I'm not Jon.
I personally didn't begrudge Kate her book tour. But I think criticism towards her is always applicable because of the way she presents herself - I do it all on my own, I have no one to support me, I'm the parent who is always there for my kids.
Most of us here realize that Kate is not the perfect mother she tries to present to the world and so when people call her put on her hypocrisy, I think that's fair.
I think the criticism towards Jon I've read here the past day or so is also fair - your opinion is your opinion after all - however I don't think he is the hypocrite that Kate is and hence I don't think coming down on him so hard for choosing to stay in LA for a wrap party (that by all appearances was last night or even the night before) is really justified. Again, just my thoughts.
As much as the sheep drive me crazy, I don't like how she treats them.
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Hope they've read Robert's post about how she had ratclaws go through mail, gifts etc and only take what SHE felf she was worthy of AND had a good laugh at their expense.
How do we know that he was even able to see them if he came back early? If his custody time starts on Friday after school, he may not even be able to take them earlier.
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Maybe their Grandmother, one of their uncles, one of Jon's friends, one of Liz's relatives had them earlier? Tfw has the nannies "help", Jon has family and friends that "help", as it should be.
And she didn't HAVE to go to NYC, she could have had someone come to her or heaven forbid skip the glamming up all together
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I'd really like to know who does her hair when she doesn't go to NY? WHO locally? God, she must just make anyone providing her any type of service sick. Especially if they've read or heard of her journals.
Interesting read
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/02/05/reality-bites-is-reality-tv-genre-falling-apart/
IMO, the only reason for the cookbook was to get her mug back on tv- notice how she has NEVER promoted the appearances...
she wants some tv exec to get wind that WOS is still around, still begging for a tv show. She could not care less about her fans, if she did, she would have shared her tour dates with them.
KK is only interested in those that can get her back on tv.
I don't know how popular the Hallmark Channel is, I do not get it in my area. Just from the name 'Hallmark', it seems that it isn't the type of channel that would broadcast trainwreck type tv. I'd like to know how she got this 5 minute gig.
Until it was mentioned here I didn't even know that they had a talk show.
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I had NO idea either. The big talk show that Kate got on, the Today Show, was an opportunity absolutely squandered.
Kate did zero cooking and allowed her dirty laundry with Jon to take up 99% of her allotted time, which was a really stupid move.
If it were me, I would have insisted on a cooking segment in the kitchen with all focus on my book and food. Not a couch "sit down" to "set the record straight". People are so, so, so sick of Kate's dramatics, as Ashley would say. It's been the same song and dance for what? 4 years now?
No one wants to hear it any more.
She could not care less about her fans, if she did, she would have shared her tour dates with them.
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Angie, I think that's the bottom line, along with laziness or perhaps even ADD. Kate has zero follow through and really doesn't try. Now, Kate thinks that she's so good at doing things without being prepared, but it's sloth.
Remember how she bragged about throwing together a talk she was doing at a Penn State campus in the car on the way there? I'd be insulted and having spoken professionally for years, I can tell you that sure, you can pull it off (especially if you're just yammering about youyouyou). But, to do it right takes a lot of time and effort to craft your message just right.
Almost every single one of Kate's CC or The Stir posts seemed thrown together, off-topic and useless. I'd go as far as to call them self indulgent. Either she is incapable of focusing on her given subject and knowing what value her information could have, or she simply does not understand public speaking and writing.
It's very obvious she's never taken a writing class because her organization is horrificly horrific and her grammar and punctuation is that of a third grader.
The bottom line is that she's not doing ANY of this for her fans, rather, she's doing it to further her agenda.
Susan 127, your husband said same things my husband did after seeing one couch session. My dh said that TFMJG was abusive to Jon, and he did not understand why Jon put up with it. And that was after viewing just one couch session. Our daughter was the fan, her dad told dd to never talk to any future spouse like that. Dh did not understand why any one would put up with her disrespect and abuse for more than five minutes.
Joy the Reality TV train wrecks could also be Taylor. She was a RHOBH and from what I could tell was really, really a train wreck with the drinking, etc.
My husband would not tolerate that witch on our TV in the bedroom a very long time age. And he said, "you yell at the TV" Why are you watching this?
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Haha I hear ya! Back in 2008, I switched the channel and was watching J&K plus 8 on my parents tv. When my mom walked in this room, she said " Uhhh, not this woman again!!!! Don't watch this trash! My dad also asked " is this the woman with 10 something kids who's constantly squawking at her kids and husband???
Keep in my mind, my parents don't go on blogs or read rag mags.
I think HCI had nothing to do with this Hallmark appearance.
"Flying under the radar", Milo? Yes, I guess one would want to be incognito if one were taking a mini vacay with a married man.
I agree Kate does not care about her few sheeple fans. As far as Paige, she was nice but for what purpose? There are always reasons behind what Kate does. Maybe Paige will be hired as a babysitter in the future? Kate allows the Milo and Goody comments because they "speak" for her, either independently or part of some scheme.
Kate's rep or Kate herself was probably reaching out everywhere to get her a spot on TV using the slop cookbook as the hook. You guys are right that the cookbook was nothing more than a means to get her mug on TV as an attempt for some producer to hire her and "coincidentally" trash talk Jon. She leaves nothing up to chance.
Funny stuff!
@msgoody2shoes21: RT @Fact: Intelligent men tend to be more faithful.
GUESS THAT RULES OUT JON GOSSELIN. LOL @Kateplusmy8
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@EmeraldCityJazz: @msgoody2shoes21 @Fact #Kateplusmy8 I thought JFK was pretty smart..
And now for the Goody tap dance
@msgoody2shoes21: @EmeraldCityJazz @Fact There is always an exception to the rule. Jon ain't the exception. @Kateplusmy8
Looks like Kate wrangled 2 segments on Home and Family. Today and Monday.
Friday, 11/15/2013
Reality star Kate Gosselin visits and cooks a recipe from her new cookbook, "Love is in the Mix;" a modern take on the classic holiday cheese ball appetizer from the author of "Great Balls of Cheese," Michelle Buffardi; "H&F's" bathroom remodel project continues; innovative and money-saving ways to organize your cosmetics.
Monday, November 18, 10a/9c
Reality star Kate Gosselin; kid chef Jack Witherspoon cooks up a comforting shepherd's pie; affordable and adorable ideas for kid tablescapes.
On H&F's FB page, they have a post about today's show, but don't list Kate as a guest, yet they have a picture of her.
The post for today's show says:
"We've got one word for you for tomorrow's show... cheeseballs! Author of "Great Balls of Cheese" Michelle Buffardi joins us with some adorably fun takes on this Holiday classic! Sophie Uliano shows us how easy and fast it is to make decorative cosmetic organizers and Laura Nativo shares her safety tips when traveling with dogs in cars! Won't you spend your Friday with us? 10a/9c on Hallmark Channel USA #HomeandFamily"
In the accompanying picture, it looks like Kate is participating in the making of the decorative cosmetic organizers.
The post for Monday's show has a picture of the cookbook and says:
"We want to hear from you! Reality mom Kate Gosselin is stopping by to tell us about her new cookbook, "Love Is In The Mix" and life after Jon and Kate Plus 8! We want to know what parenting questions you have for her! Comment below and we may use your question on Monday's show! #HomeandFamily"
Most of the comments are negative.
https://www.facebook.com/HomeandFamilyShow
PS. Milo, you're welcome.
Here is the picture from the H&F FB page that includes Kate.
https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/p480x480/1455031_558295024250669_1102618183_n.jpg
I decided to check out Kate's coupon site and you would not believe the coupons that are on the main page. Here is a sampling:
30% off private Beijing bike tour at night
28% off Cusco airport departure transfer
32% off skip the line: Eiffel Tower tickets
50% off Potsdam half-day trip from Berlin
And my favorite (very useful)...6% off 3-day Siem Reap Tour: Angkor Wat, Ta Prohm, Bayon and Tonle Sap
These are on the front page of her website!!! Seriously, how many people would find these useful? What a ridiculous site, but par for the course for TFW.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/02/05/reality-bites-is-reality-tv-genre-falling-apart/
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Thanks Vanessa, this is a great article listing some of the biggest reality t.v. scandals over being fake.
32% off skip the line: Eiffel Tower tickets
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Sweet. Maybe we could take a virtual tour of Paris this weekend!
handinhand said... 37
Another one. Sheesh, what is your agenda here? ...
You sound like ex-nurse.
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I can assure you my thoughts are my own and agenda free.
I really don't like to have to get into generally outlining my feelings on Jon as I know they mostly go against the prevailing opinion here, but I was asked to explain my thoughts by posters I respect and I did so.
I don't ever wish to hurt any of the posters here with my words, nor do I wish to rile this place up and cause post v post arguing.
I'm interested in the subject matter of this site and appreciate all the contributors and Admin.
I just don't think this community is served well when dissenting opinions are accused of being sheeple speak or worse.
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