Wednesday, November 27, 2013

Breaking news: Kate drops lawsuit against Robert

IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA

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Docket No. 13:4989

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NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL

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! Pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 41(a)(1)(A)(i), the plaintiff, Kate Gosselin, hereby voluntarily

dismisses the above matter, without prejudice, as the opposing parties have not served an answer

or a motion for summary judgment.

Respectfully Submitted,

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Mulvihill & Rushie, LLC

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Date: November 27, 2013 A. Jordan Rushie

 2424 East York Street, Suite 316

 Philadelphia, PA 19125

 Tel: (215) 385-5291

 E-mail: Jordan@FishtownLaw.com

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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Robert did file an answer, so I'm not sure what they were talking about. It's right here:

http://www.realitytvkids.com/2013/09/robert-files-answer-to-kates-lawsuit.html

Unless they mean he didn't file a second answer to her amended complaint. In any case that part just seems to be saying that she filed the amended complain, Robert asked for it to be dismissed, and she agreed to that. It is correct he never filed an answer to the AMENDED complaint, at that point he changed course a bit and went straight for asking for a dismissal. I can't speculate why he changed strategies like that but she took the money and ran.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Robert should contact amazon the second this is signed off on by the judge. This book could be relisted within days. And I can resume the recaps of the chapters. I stopped because of the threat of litigation Kate had been hinting at against Robert.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

The actual motion doesn't mention the does, in fact the way I read it this is saying the ENTIRE THING is dismissed with prejudice, does and all. Congrats to the does then too!

sunny said...

Admin, is it possible Kate and Robert reached an agreement, she'll drop the suit if he doesn't re-release the book? That could be why she dismissed without prejudice, to cover her bases should he re-release the book anyway.

I hope Robert weighs in and gives us the scoop.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Who knows, I can't imagine Robert would agree to that but anything is possible. He'll have to speak for himself. I hope to see that book back on Amazon by the end of the week. She deserves it for the crap she pulled the past three months. Shame on her.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

My mistake it actually says WITHOUT prejudice. That's a minor victory for Kate, if Robert pulls something else out of the hat she can still sue. However she's still going to have a statute of limitations problem, which is a far bigger problem IMO. Thankfully Jon's was WITH prejudice.

Rhymes with Witch said...

Forgive me for repeating myself, but

Yes Katie, you can sue BUT
You can't always get what you want.

P.s. Dating myself, but I loved the Big Chill.

Anonymous said...

So does that mean Robert just has to wait for all statutes to elapse, then he can release amended version?

franky

reader said...

Am I the only one opening champagne? happy dance!

reader said...

Yes, Admin without prejudice, but MARK MY WORDS there is not another attorney on God's green earth who will take her case.
TFW is running out of bridges to burn.

Blowing In The Wind said...

"However she's still going to have a statute of limitations problem, which is a far bigger problem IMO. Thankfully Jon's was WITH prejudice."

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She could still sue for libel, but she'd have to prove that those weren't her words, or that they were altered in some way, and I can't imagine she would want that coming out in deposition. She could also sue for ruining her reputation, which meant that she couldn't get employment, but we know how that would go.

Could we all chip in and get Rushie a decent GPS so he could find the courthouse with no problem? He must have taken quite a bit of grief from Kate. Poor guy.

Anything mentioned about who pays Robert's and Jon's attorney for this ridiculous lawsuit?

So she can still sue the Does. Those elusive people with no names and addresses. That should be interesting.

The sheeple (the particularly stupid ones) were insisting that Jon caved. Guess Robert caved, too!

reader said...

Now please don't throw tomatoes, tonight I am happy too for Emeraldcityjazz, she may night fight nice...cats normally do not, but she put up with a barrage of crap and hate from the many factions of morons and minions; many times alone.
Cheers.

fonderek's glen said...

That Motion certainly doesn't make sense at all. But it has the word dismissal, and that is all the really counts.

Talk about a frivolous lawsuit.

reader said...

Happy Thanksgiving Robert. :)

Anonymous said...

new post at gosselinbook, lol Robert!

franky

Layla said...

New video up at gosselinbook. I'm pretty sure Robert didn't agree not to republish (Double negative??!! Oh, well, you know what I'm saying). I don't think he budged one inch. I wonder if TFW is now aware that sometimes, no does mean no. Even when it applies to her.

SwingsandRoundabouts said...

I just went to Robert's blog and I'm still giggling.

Happy Thanksgiving to RH and I hope he is able to republish his book. I procrastinated about buying it the last time as I found the excerpts that I read to be profoundly disturbing and I was unsure I wanted to read the entire thing. When it was withdrawn that decision was taken out of my hands. Now however I will buy it in support of RH.

Happy Thanksgiving also to all the posters here who are celebrating tomorrow. I can almost smell the pumpkin pie.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Reader that's a good point. I predicted as did several others last week that this was going to be dismissed as to Robert's too, they were just fighting a bit more about the terms. I also predicted that the prejudice/without prejudice would be a sticking point. I wonder if Robert finally just said fine without prejudice, knowing the odds that this would ever happen again are slim to none, just to get rid of this and have this be over with. Sometimes it's fine to agree to something you might not normally agree to if the end result would be the same or there is little to no risk to giving up certain things. My guess is his priority is to be able to print his book again and that was what he would be most concerned about getting out of this.

Marie said...

She was probably more afraid to be deposed than she was about the re-release of the book. Just think of all the horrible things that could have come out.

lukebandit said...

I just went to see the new posting by Robert. OH, MY. LANTA!!!!

At the very end of the video what he says, I laughed out loud SO HARD, I started coughing violently and almost choked!

WELL. WORTH. IT.

I came back to post did that wench get her wish that THE BOOK not be published. Then I saw the post for the new post at RH's. I went and saw the video and it answered my question.

It would not surprise me a bit if it has been put to bed right now!!!

CONGRATULATIONS, ROBERT and Legal Eagles!!!!

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 5h
@poorbabi well, I plan on keeping Zorro our only bird... I already have a 'flock' of Gosselins, after all!;) #goodluckwithhousebtw

Well, thank goodness for that. I'd hate to see her come down with what we call NEB Disease (Not Enough Birds). I'll be amazed if that little guy is still there by next Christmas. Kate's attention span is nil, and she gets bored so fast. I hope that bird doesn't live in the basement. He needs people around him during the day...they love to interact with their owners, watch what goes on. I can just see Kate getting tired of the whole bird thing and banishing him to another part of the house where she doesn't have to hear him or look at the mess..

DisgustedwithKate said...

While this is a victory for Robert, I wish the case had been dismissed WITH prejudice. Administrator, can Robert re-file (?) this case and ask a judge to dismiss the case with prejudice? If not, that means Kate can sue Robert anytime she pleases (as long as she is willing to pay attorney's fees of course).

Rhymes with Witch said...

Reader 8
would you elaborate about ECJ ?
(presuming good news?)

I have stopped following twitter.

lukebandit said...

The video Robert put up is outstanding. Extra good.

At the very end, after what was said, I laughed out loud so hard, started coughing violently, and almost choked.

Well. Worth. IT.

I wouldn't be surprised if THE BOOK has been put to bed as we speak! (and post!)

Michelle said...

This is such a perfect example of misuse of the American legal system.

Anonymous said...

4 photos at end. From big bang theory.

clockwise, starting top left.

Sheldon, pensive.

Actress who plays Penny on talk show.

Sheldon hugs Penny who is wearing Santa Claus hat.

Party/celebration.

Sheldon/Robert
Penney/ Kate.

Robert???


I KNOW I LOVE YA!!!

WILD THANG, YOU MAKE MY HEART SING!!!


you are really good, Robert

franky

Vanessa said...

:) :) :) :) :)
Fantastic!

PatK said...

Ack. The new post got me!

I posted in the other one that I believe the sheep are keeping their explosions amongst themselves via DMs. Bwahahaha.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Bringing over from end of last thread,

Why did she back down? I think she finally ran into the trifecta of no substance, too much money and attorneys who were not interested in either losing or not getting paid. Perhaps they sensed her lack of interest in paying them. LOL

So thus the bird - the perfect (not) cover for things not going her way. And in her warped little mind, cheaper than a new car. So sure spend 1K on a parrot, just in time to make the children feel sad about going to Dad's for the holiday. Interesting that she has nothing to say about all the friends coming to join them for turkey and pie.

Pretty ready here, after a few weeks of shopping and prepping, and cooking the past few days. Last project is DH and his pumpkin pies tonight. Going to join family at the beach for dinner tomorrow, actually not unhappy to not be hosting this year. New traditions, which is the blessing of having extended family and friends. But it is also the reward of cultivating these relationships over a lifetime, this is what Kate fails to understand and the gift she is NOT giving her children. There is no easy fix, no easy out, no easy $$$. Kate does not understand how we all work at this, day in, day out.

PatK said...

Kate's now posting a picture of the bird ON THE COUNTERTOP after having eating it's apple.

What lawsuit? Sweep, sweep, sweep....

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Let's not forget she's left her sheeple completely in the dust. This entire thing started with her promising them to end them being "bullied." Then she quietly abandoned that and shifted everything to Jon and Robert. Now she's bought a bird like none of this ever even happened. Where does that leave the sheeple but completely used? Chewed up for their use then spit out. Will they ever wake up?

Jeremy said...

Can I have a legal explanation please? She dismissed because they failed to serve an answer? So she files a lawsuit, it is not answered, and she withdraws? What am I missing? If I am sued and don't respond, the suit goes away?

AuntieAnn said...

Ha ha. She chickened out, did she? Her lawsuit turned out to be a turkey, but she'll be eating crow tomorrow. One day chicken the next day feathers. You know what they say Kate...an ill bird fouls its own nest.
Somebody stop me.
This is too easy.

NJGal51 said...

Congratulations Robert and Happy Thanksgiving!

Michelle said...

Less than 3 months ago, Kate wrote this on her website regarding the lawsuit:

"The saddest part of this situation is the fact that the investigation to identify the source and those responsible for orchestrating this barrage of hate for their own financial gain, has ended where it has and with the individuals named in the court documents. At the beginning of this investigation I made the decision to take legal action against those found to be responsible and see no reason to change this decision now that the investigation has revealed those responsible are unfortunately so close to home.
-Kate Gosselin"

Based on the recent dismissals, should she be leaving this on her website?

Layla said...

TFW posted a picture of the bird. She's pretending that none of this lawsuit crap every happened. Funny, but she hasn't said a word about Thanksgiving this year. She used to post about her days and days of prepping sides and baking pies. I'm guessing that Jon has the kids for the holiday, and TFW will be spending the day alone with Zorro and a few bottles of wine. If it were anyone else, I might feel some pity. But TFW deserves everything she gets. She bragged that people walk out of her life and she just keeps going, but lately she doesn't have anywhere to go.

Mel said...

I don't quite get his video...does he mean that he just served *her*?

Anonymous said...

Sorry to go off topic, but I don't think this comment will go through on the last thread. I am at a bookstore and not one copy of her crookbook on the abundant shelves. However, there are several copies of Cooking with Coolio, the Fhetto Gourmet. It is hilarious, and has lots of good info too.
"This salad is healthier than your mama's nipples!"
Hahahahaha!

FRP

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

DisgustedwithKate said... 22
While this is a victory for Robert, I wish the case had been dismissed WITH prejudice. Administrator, can Robert re-file (?) this case and ask a judge to dismiss the case with prejudice? If not, that means Kate can sue Robert anytime she pleases (as long as she is willing to pay attorney's fees of course).
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It took Kate years to find an attorney that would take the case on and that was only with the help of another paranoid, BV. I doubt she'll find another attorney for another frivolous lawsuit.

reader said...

"Now she's bought a bird like none of this ever even happened."

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Complete lack of maturity.

Over In TFW's County said...

Amber Kenney ‏@Prettybowes 2h
Look what I made 2day 4 my family :) Would love to send you all some!! Happy Thanksgiving Gosselins!!! @Kateplusmy8 pic.twitter.com/5dynG7Cmlj

This one wants to send Kate some M&Ms. Oh, goody! Bet Kate is just thrilled beyond belief. I can almost hear the shrieking with glee coming from that house!

Rhymes with Witch said...

Could we all chip in and get Rushie a decent GPS so he could find the courthouse with no problem? 11

Not sure that wasn't a joke in the first place. Who knows?
Sending Robert a virtual bottle of champagne.










Anythinllll

reader said...

"...she's left her sheeple completely in the dust."

Yes, left her fans, used and abused her twitter fans. They thought their feelings would be validated, I think some even imagined their day in court. She does not care, all she could see was her want, and her hate. Everything else was collateral damage, right Kate?
Have some more coffee.

reader said...

This lawsuit was never prepared to go the distance. TFW thought all she had to do was file this Threadbare - Rainman notebook- bootleg lawsuit, then Jon and Robert would head for the hills.
Boy was she wrong....so wrong...sittin around all wrong in wrongness....

NJGal51 said...

@Kateplusmy8: What am I supposed to do when my apple is gone?, says Zorro. pic.twitter.com/899JwxhC4I
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For those who are not on twitter here's the picture of the bird on the counter. Germaphobe? I think not. Deflect, deflect, deflect.

Flight of the Kiwi said...

She attempted to make a pun writing "flock"? Geez, I'm certain the twins could tell her a group of geese is a gaggle. She is the goose. When she herds them all together (in flight) they are a plump (Ah ha ha ha ha)

I'm offended, because I am all things bird after all. I credit "Trivial Pursuit" .

Rhymes with Witch said...

@ 42 phone did it again.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

I can't help but wonder if the night she was so obviously into the wine while tweeting, maybe that's the day Rushie told her it's over, no case.

reader said...

Here's to Jon, for all the belittling and shrieking and tearing down she did in front of his children and recorded on TLC, this is major crushing payback.
TFW thought adults won arguments by slamming doors, walking away, rolling up car windows, and her latest, by filing a lawsuit.

Well Jon won this one, Kate was the one who had to submit this time.

And no this argument won won't be on TLC. It is recorded now and forever before us all in the United States District Court, Eastern District of Pennsylvania!

Hammer time!

reader said...

Zorro is out of apple...Kate is out of low hanging fruit.

She deflects like a spoiled rotten child. She cannot accept defeat. She isn't strong enough to accept it.

reader said...

Brilliant Milo is damning with faint praise, tonight she tweets:

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2m
@Kateplusmy8 Ha...U need 2teach Zorro 2say "We get what we get...and we don't get upset!" LOL

Bravo, Milo, bravo...

NJGal51 said...

@MiloandJack: @Kateplusmy8 Ha...U need 2teach Zorro 2say "We get what we get...and we don't get upset!" LOL
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That's right Milo, TFW gets what she gets and I hope she gets a free copy of Robert's book when it's republished.

Tess said...

I need to go back and read the rest of the comments from the last post, but is Robert's post on that vile child abuse manual, TTUAC, implying that she used it's methods on the children or was it tangential in relation? If so, I am not sure it is possible to feel any sicker at what was happening in that house - to babies. The Pearls are sick, sick individuals. They have videos out on the Internet where they demonstrate how to whip a baby properly with a switch, and talk about not giving in until the child is without breath to struggle/resist. And they do it while laughing and making light of it. He also brags about how he pushed his child, who at the time could not swim, into a body of water when she showed curiosity to make her afraid to explore the water again by herself. One final outrage of the many in that book and on their website is the story if one of their girls and a picture frame, eerily like globegate, where no one saw who damaged it, but an assumption was made and this case the kid was grilled every night for two weeks until she confessed (perhaps to make it all go away? She had maintained her innocence for the entire 2 weeks) and so... You want to know what happened when she confessed? She was whipped with the plumbing line every single day for two weeks, the length of time it took her to confess. I hope to God, that WOS did not use that book as a guide on how to raise children, though her attitude, her lack of empathy for her kids as she hurt them is the same feel you get from reading Pearl's "teachings" (pathological violent treatment of children).
As for the lawsuit - good that it is dropped. I really would like to have had her have to go through discovery, though. I hope Robert rerelease his book and doesn't hold back. If she ever managed to find another lawyer to take her case, I have no doubt he can back up everything he ever puts in print.
Hope everyone who is celebrating has a wonderful Thanksgiving!

PatK said...

Fired Up 4 Kate‏@MiloandJack14m
@Kateplusmy8 Ha...U need 2teach Zorro 2say "We get what we get...and we don't get upset!" LOL


How appropos!

OrangeCrusher1 said...

pic.twitter.com/899JwxhC4I

Oh look, Zorro gets to eat off the holiday fine china paper plates too.She spent 1K on this little thing? And it does appear she and the bird will be hanging out together for the holiday. Perhaps he likes wine.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Kate tweeted: What am I supposed to do when my apple is gone?, says Zorro. pic.twitter.com/899JwxhC4I

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Good grief. The bird is on the kitchen counter. Kate, for heaven's sakes, don't let the bird eat off a paper plate. He could take a chunk out of it, and it has a coating on it that is toxic to birds.

I wonder if she has the DNA test results that determined this is a male. Conures are not sexually dimorphic (you can't tell the sex by looking at them). If she doesn't know for certain it's a male, she better watch out for egg binding. She said in her blog that he can learn to talk. Better not hold your breath, Kate. Most of them can mumble a few words (about six words or so), but if they do, it's very low and gravelly...almost demonic. I think their "language" is amusing, .but Kate might not find it funny.

I need to take my pies out of the oven and get my mind off Kate's bird. I can't "watch" this happen. She's going to kill that poor thing. She knows absolutely nothing about birds and could do something really stupid. This is not going to end well. Just a feeling...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 6h
@BullyVille DM Sir...:)
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Is Milo asking BV what his next brilliant strategy is for handling Kate's "bullies?"

Tess said...

That poor bird. Living creatures are not cute playthings for humans. There is so much to learn about birds before bringing one home. A lot has been covered here, no Teflon, toxic plants, coatings, varnish, egg binding, a correct diet, including fruit and veggies, extra protein, cuttlebone, tons of toys rotated, strict cleaning schedule, 10-12 hours of quiet time to sleep etc... I fell in love with a conure at our local pet shop. He was a funny little guy with a huge personality! We have a good long term relationship with a couple of the women that work there and I mentioned my interest to her. She was honest in telling me that the bird would need as much time and attention and my very high needs ASD boy. We are animal lovers and take take great care of them, but she was so right to point out the day to day reality of what that bird would need from us. Long rant with no real point I guess. Poor bird.

Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said...

reader said... 51

See I read that differently. Sycophant Milo just thinks it would be cute to teach the bird a Kate-ism. Milo would never slag her queen. Ever.

Insert Creative Username Here said...

I'm betting TFW and Robert couldn't come to terms. Robert probably wanted the lawsuit dismissed with prejudice, and for TFW not to interfere with the selling of his book. I doubt TFW would agree to that. Instead she's dismissing the suit without his permission. Did he sign the request to dismiss? Does TFW need Robert's permission to dismiss? What if he disagrees with the conditions of the dismissal? Can he fight it?

Greedy Gosselins said...

This entire thing started with her promising them to end them being "bullied."


Did Kate really tell them that?? Wow.

PatK said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 57
Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 6h
@BullyVille DM Sir...:)
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Is Milo asking BV what his next brilliant strategy is for handling Kate's "bullies?"


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I suppose it was something mindless, like "they're pickin' on Kate about her bird now!"

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Michelle I want to say a big amen to your post. The legal system is not here to bully and play games with yor ex then run away crying when they don't back down. Please get therapy instead. The legal system is for real problems and people really harmed. Filing a lawsuit should be a method of last resort and should not be done unless you truly intend to see it all the way through. In other words it's not supposed to be a boxing ring where you see if you can sucker punch someone a few times see if they fall down then run away.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Yes, left her fans, used and abused her twitter fans. They thought their feelings would be validated, I think some even imagined their day in court. She does not care, all she could see was her want, and her hate. Everything else was collateral damage, right Kate?
Have some more coffee.

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What's the status of the class-action supposedly filed against quite a few "haters?" Didn't BV have the other blog closed down, the owner got a subpoena and quite a few were "outed." Were those included among the Does in Kate's lawsuit? The sheeple were parading about the barnyard with the "have you been served yet?" mantra, but we never heard anything else about it. Was that class-action filed on behalf of the "damaged" fans? I can't keep up with this stuff.

Remona Blue said...

I know nothing about legal things, but the way I'm reading all this is that TFW filed a motion to dismiss without prejudice, and then Robert's ''You've been served'' video is his way of saying he has responded to her with a motion to dismiss WITH prejudice. Am I totally off base? Anyone know the answer?
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Insert Creative Username Here said... 60
''....Does TFW need Robert's permission to dismiss? What if he disagrees with the conditions of the dismissal? Can he fight it?''
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I have those questions too!

getofftwitter said...

Yeah! doing the happy dance!

Course, now Kate is deflecting, with the parrot. She won't comment, and her lackeys are not pushing the subject either.

Oh, there is a diaper thing you can put on Conures, they come in all kinds of material designs.

One of my parakeets, yesterday had a seizure, and was paralized for about 15 min, I had him in my hand until he came out of it. I really thought he was going to die. He layed in my hand, so I talked very soft to him. He is ok today. This has happened before, and he recovered right away.

Everyone have a Wonderful THANKSGIVING!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Sooo, would Kate's lawsuit be considered a SLAPP lawsuit?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 6h
@BullyVille DM Sir...:)
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Is Milo asking BV what his next brilliant strategy is for handling Kate's "bullies?"

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MIlo, you're being ridiculous. BV got them into this whole mess. Granted, Kate is a grown woman and it's her responsibility to just say no, but still, they encouraged this whole entire mess and in my view are the main reason Kate is out tens of thousands of dollars. Don't you see that? Let this go. They of all people do not have Kate's best interest at heart.

boo said...

Ramona, under Rule 41, the plaintiff can voluntarily dismiss the case if the defendant has not filed an answer or a motion for summary judgment, which is a little different from a motion to dismiss, which is what Robert filed. Robert cannot do anything to stop the voluntary dismissal or make it with prejudice. Also, if a dismissal is entered as a result of a settlement between the parties, it is always with prejudice and almost always a stipulated dismissal. For example, with the dismissal of the case against Jon, they reached a mutual agreement and the dismissal was with prejudice. I hope this makes sense. It is a little confusing..

CarolJB said...

I know nothing about legal things, but the way I'm reading all this is that TFW filed a motion to dismiss without prejudice, and then Robert's ''You've been served'' video is his way of saying he has responded to her with a motion to dismiss WITH prejudice. Am I totally off base? Anyone know the answer?
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Insert Creative Username Here said... 60
''....Does TFW need Robert's permission to dismiss? What if he disagrees with the conditions of the dismissal? Can he fight it?''

According to the Rules of Federal Procedure:

A Plaintiff can file a dismissal without a Court order by:

(i) a notice of dismissal before the opposing party serves either an answer or a motion for summary judgment; or
(ii) a stipulation of dismissal signed by all parties who have appeared.

Since Robert answered the complaint Robert had to agree to the dismissal.
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Insert Creative Username Here said... 60
''....Does TFW need Robert's permission to dismiss? What if he disagrees with the conditions of the dismissal? Can he fight it?''

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Ramona, under Rule 41, the plaintiff can voluntarily dismiss the case if the defendant has not filed an answer or a motion for summary judgment, which is a little different from a motion to dismiss, which is what Robert filed. Robert cannot do anything to stop the voluntary dismissal or make it with prejudice.

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OHHHH yes!!! YES.

All coming back to me now. This is no settlement. Not at all. This is Kate finding a way to get out of this lawsuit without having to negotiate with Robert. Very clever. Great way to skip town, get out of dodge, running scared.

CarolJB said...

The federal Rules also state:

(B) Effect. Unless the notice or stipulation states otherwise, the dismissal is without prejudice. But if the plaintiff previously dismissed any federal- or state-court action based on or including the same claim, a notice of dismissal operates as an adjudication on the merits.

I think that Robert simply allowed Kate to dismiss the case. As pointed out by boo said if there was a settlement then it would have been dismissed with prejudice.

boo said...

Admin, I've never had a case where a plaintiff filed a rule 41 voluntary dismissal where the defendant has filed an answer to the original complaint, but not to the amended complaint. It's an interesting issue, but I would think Rule 41 still applies, since the amended complaint supersedes the original pleading. It's an unusual scenario.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Since Robert answered the complaint Robert had to agree to the dismissal.

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Nope, he sure didn't. It says it right there in black and white it's being dismissed pursuant to FRC Rule 41.

Remember Kate filed TWO complaints. The first one he filed an answer to. But the second one he didn't formally answer, he just asked for it to be dismissed. Since the second one I guess is technically a whole new suit replacing the old one, they can get away with applying Rule 41? Although I would have to read up on whether Rule 41 can be applied when you already filed a suit that was answered to and you just amend it. I personally don't think of amended complaints as brand new complaints, the way I think of them is rather they step in the shoes of the new complaint. Following that, Rule 41 couldn't apply here. But that's what it says right there, Rule 41, so they think it does. We DID talk about how the first complaint was "dismissed" which is par for the course when an amended complaint is filed to replace. I don't know about Rule 41 applying here. I have full confidence Robert's attorneys are aware of this potential issue.

This was their one loophole to get out early but they would have to do it immediately before Robert filed anything else. This is bad. Somebody convinced her she was done and her ONLY hope was to get out, evacuate the building, head to the bomb shelter NOW or the window would close forever. LOL!

Robert didn't negotiate, give up, give in ANYTHING. Kate RAN. No spin zone!!! YEA!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

but not to the amended complaint. It's an interesting issue, but I would think Rule 41 still applies, since the amended complaint supersedes the original pleading. It's an unusual scenario.

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Isn't it? This is the stuff lawyers shoot the shit over for hours and hours trying to figure out well does Rule 41 apply or not?? He filed an Answer but it was to the OLD complaint not the new one.

Now wonder they needed more time. I'm not sure on this one!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

But if the plaintiff previously dismissed any federal- or state-court action based on or including the same claim, a notice of dismissal operates as an adjudication on the merits.

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Now I'm even more confused. If it operates as an adjudication on the merits, that's generally WITH prejudice. You simply cannot have an adjudication ON THE MERITS without it also being a "with prejudice" ruling, that I am aware of. At least that's CA.

Berks Neighbor said...

Here's a question for the legal experts: Could the judge not sign off on this Dismissal because it is so unclear?

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I also thought the plaintiff could dismiss a suit at any time for any reason and they don't have to consult anyone. Even if it's the day before trial. That's what makes the most sense, right? They filed it, they can withdraw it. We need to make it easy for plaintiffs to withdraw suits because we should encourage people to NOT resort to the courts unless they absolutely have to. We should encourage people to not take things that far unless you have to, therefore we should make it easy for them to change their minds. I've seen many suits withdrawn the day of trial and there's nothing, nothing at all you can do about it. In fact in my area of law you have no standing to contest it if the moving party shows up that date and doesn't want to file anymore. Even if your client badly wants to go through a trial and be vindicated, you're out of luck. I've seen some people actually let down by a voluntary dismissal because they really felt they needed their day in court.

Federal court is more different than I realized.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Here's a question for the legal experts: Could the judge not sign off on this Dismissal because it is so unclear?

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YES at least in my court.

If the judge thinks Rule 41 doesn't apply sure he doesn't have to sign off on that whatsoever. He could send them back to the drawling board.

Actually now I'm wondering if Robert might not be okay with this. IF they think Rule 41 doesn't apply, they may just show up in court with a "wait a minute" motion as I call it opposing the motion to dismiss.

The plot thickens! The play isn't over yet!

She wants to get out of this mess she created the easy way. If that's not permissible I'm sure Robert will be first in line to say so.

CarolJB said...


boo said... 73

Admin, I've never had a case where a plaintiff filed a rule 41 voluntary dismissal where the defendant has filed an answer to the original complaint, but not to the amended complaint. It's an interesting issue, but I would think Rule 41 still applies, since the amended complaint supersedes the original pleading. It's an unusual scenario.

I forgot that the complaint had been amended. Thank you for pointing this out.

capecodmama said...

Happy Thanksgiving!

Congrats Robert.

Meagler said...

...lol.. checking in to see what the legal result was today, and found myself sifting through legal jargon like its a foreign language....I am glad some of you understadn what it all means.


I checked out gosselinbook before coming here, and I thought " Get out your napkin, you've been served!" meant Robert was serving Kate with a lawsuit. Could their be a countersuit????

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


...lol.. checking in to see what the legal result was today, and found myself sifting through legal jargon like its a foreign language....I am glad some of you understadn what it all means.

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You never quite understand what it all means lol.....so much of it is so darn unclear, subject to multiple interpretation. That's why lawyers have a reputation for working the loopholes because the law is just so full of them and so open to manipulation. I find this equally fun and frustrating.

This rule 41 thing is a perfect example.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Here's some info on federal amended complaints:

"Rule 15. Amended and Supplemental Pleadings

(a) Amendments Before Trial.

(1) Amending as a Matter of Course. A party may amend its pleading once as a matter of course within:

(A) 21 days after serving it, or

(B) if the pleading is one to which a responsive pleading is required, 21 days after service of a responsive pleading or 21 days after service of a motion under Rule 12(b), (e), or (f), whichever is earlier.

(2) Other Amendments. In all other cases, a party may amend its pleading only with the opposing party's written consent or the court's leave. The court should freely give leave when justice so requires.

(3) Time to Respond. Unless the court orders otherwise, any required response to an amended pleading must be made within the time remaining to respond to the original pleading or within 14 days after service of the amended pleading, whichever is later."

Like I said, amended complaints more sort of step in the shoes of the original complaint, especially since they only give you an extra 14 days to respond or the original time whichever is longer. So by that view, if it's stepping into the shoes, Robert DID respond already and Rule 41 wouldn't work. Right?

A Mom said...

Kate tweets a pic of kids & Zorro at 10:30 pm eastern time. Its either a earlier pic and Jon has the kids or Kate really has kids. Hopefully Jon does have his kids.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Ha ha. She chickened out, did she?

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Exactly, or turkeyed out, in light of Thanksgiving.

Remona Blue said...

boo at... 69
CarolJB at... 70
Admin at...71
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Thank you all so much for the responses. I understand what you have said. But this motion to dismiss by TFW still must be approved by the Judge, right?

Now I've read the discussion between you, I see it's more complicated than everyone thought. Interesting conversation. But the Judge still has to approve what ever TFW filed, right?

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 86

Ha ha. She chickened out, did she?

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Exactly, or turkeyed out, in light of Thanksgiving.
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Or parroted out. I know, it's a fowl joke.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


I find it interesting and amusing that the sheeple also follow the LeAnn Rimes/Eddie Cibrian/Brandi Glanville drama. Brandi is no angel but LeAnn Rimes is guilty as sin for cruelly using her stepsons to hurt and taunt Brandi.

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Now out of curiosity who do they tend to support? Yes agree Brandi is no picnic but she's at least oriented to time and space and throws out some common sense now and again. Knowing them, I bet they back the nuttier more unstable of the two, right? Leann.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 13m
@Kateplusmy8 Another week or so & this will be the most famous bird on the planet.."Hey U hear abt the Gosselins? They got a bird ZORRO!" :)

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Honest to Pete. This person is nuts. Plain and simple. Bats$$t crazy. No normal person thinks like this, much less would even dare to tweet something this stupid. I wonder if she gets paid for this craziness.

NJGal51 said...

Is this really good for the bird (or the kids)?

@Kateplusmy8: Zorro games.....I found the kids like this... pic.twitter.com/0LWbZLmBcc

Also, Walt is back and not deleting his tweets.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Mel said... 37
I don't quite get his video...does he mean that he just served *her*?

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Meagler said... 82

I checked out gosselinbook before coming here, and I thought " Get out your napkin, you've been served!" meant Robert was serving Kate with a lawsuit. Could their be a countersuit????

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I think Robert probably means the phrase the same way we do around here. In my neck of the woods, you can jokingly say to someone, "You have been served!" It's a good-natured way of saying, "I won!" (or "I bested you" or "I outsmarted you" or "I got the last laugh!" Something like that.) Often, it's when there's a sparring of words going on, and one person gets a final zinger in. Recently someone made a joking remark about me, and I said, "Well, I guess I've been served!" and we all laughed. That's how I take Robert's video.

Michelle said...

I haven't seen the actual document, just the above. Is it possible this dismissal only applies to the Does, like the first dismissal applied only to Jon?

AuntieAnn said...

She wants to get out of this mess she created the easy way.

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You mean running out and buying a parrot doesn't make all this silly legal stuff go away? Geez. I thought she was onto something.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

I need to take my pies out of the oven and get my mind off Kate's bird. I can't "watch" this happen. She's going to kill that poor thing. She knows absolutely nothing about birds and could do something really stupid. This is not going to end well. Just a feeling...

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I don't know much about indoor birds, but I have to say I agree with you, Sleepless. Especially when Kate posts photos like this with the caption "Zorro games." It seems like having all those small hands reaching toward him (or whatever they're doing) would be very agitating, especially in a new and strange environment. She has NO common sense.

https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/status/405899907594088448/photo/1

Anonymous said...

btw, 4 photos, same frame, but start top right...

Tfw on shows,

being hugged.

empty party.

pensive


franky

PatK said...

A Mom said... 85
Kate tweets a pic of kids & Zorro at 10:30 pm eastern time. Its either a earlier pic and Jon has the kids or Kate really has kids. Hopefully Jon does have his kids.

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Maybe Kate's plan worked and they all refused to go with their dad so they could stay home and play with the new "toy".

Meagler said...

Ha ha...Kate referred to herself as Ms Doolittle. She's got that right....

Ms Do Little ( as little as possible and let the not a nanny do the rest)

Amanda, Iowa said...

Zorro games.....I found the kids like this... pic.twitter.com/0LWbZLmBcc

Yeah, yeah, and somehow I have a hard time believing she "found" the kids like that. I don't think they are allowed to take the bird out without permison and a whole list of instructions!!!

Craziness said...

@ Admin, they tend to support Brandi but she has REALLY gotten out of control lately. But all her fans explain away her behavior. :/ I think Leann has gotten more fans because of Brandi's recent dramas.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

I just saw the first bird pic and wow you weren't kidding he is a little peanut. Same thought, poor little guy must be overwhelmed by all those kids crowded around him paws reaching toward him just like any puppy or kitten would be overwhelmed. He's in a new place all new faces thrust into a bustling household. I feel so awful for him. One or two kids at a time, be gentle and quiet, let the poor thing acclimate slowly. I've only known a few people with birds but their houses always stunk to me. I don't like the smell of bird seed, and bird poop sure isn't pleasant. I'm sure there are many responsible bird owners with nice smelling cages but I imagine it takes a lot of work and commitment. Two things TFW doesn't seem to like much.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

I don't know much about indoor birds, but I have to say I agree with you, Sleepless. Especially when Kate posts photos like this with the caption "Zorro games." It seems like having all those small hands reaching toward him (or whatever they're doing) would be very agitating, especially in a new and strange environment. She has NO common sense.

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Conures are not large birds as compared to other parrots.. They are very fragile. I had a rescue conure come to me with a broken leg. The avian vet tried to splint it, but the leg couldn't be saved. I watched while he amputated it, and all it took was a little clip (kind of like clipping a fingernail). Its poor little leg wasn't any thicker than a small twig. The wings, too, can easily be broken. I'm worried about this bird...I really am. That bird will bite, and when he does, the pain and surprise will be enough for her (or the kids) to just fling it somewhere.

I have a rescue Grey right now with a broken beak. It was neglected and was tormented by the family dog. The bird was trying to escape from the dog and its beak somehow got caught in a vent. Poor thing's beak had to be wired together and I'm hand-feeding it right now.

Kate has no idea what she's doing, and therefore she can't teach the kids.

I bet she uses Teflon in cooking, and I bet she lights scented candles. You just can't do that around parrots. Owning a parrot requires commitment, and knowledge about its care and requirements. This is not a hamster that you keep in a cage and watch it run around on a wheel.

tipping the scales said...

Michelle said... 90
I haven't seen the actual document, just the above. Is it possible this dismissal only applies to the Does, like the first dismissal applied only to Jon?
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The suit was against Jon and Robert only. The Does were merely placeholders, and would only come into play in this suit had it gotten to the discovery process. Robert referenced sources and family members in his book. It is assumed that Kate wanted to find out who these people were. By adding 20 John and Jane Does to the initial filing, should someone's identity be revealed during discovery as a source, Kate could have them added them to the suit. It's a standard and routine manuever. In lawsuits where there is the potential to add other defendants, this must be done in the initial filing.

Starz22 said...

I feel so bad for that bird. He doesn't stand a chance. I think people having birds as pets is just wrong. Unless the bird has an injury that makes it impossible to survive in the wild...the bird should be in the wild.
Birds were given wings for a reason...to be free. Not locked in a cage with their wings clipped just so we can look at them. Who are we to take that freedom away from them? Just like any other animal we snatch from the wild...lock them up for our own selfish reasons.
I had a neighbor who has lots of birds locked up in a cage. It was a huge cage with lots of stuff dangling for them to play with...but they were not happy. It was easy to see, the birds were pulling their feathers out and pacing in the cage.
I'm not trying to be a shit stirrer...I'm just giving my opinion on how I feel about birds being kept as pets. Again...birds were given wings for a reason...to be free!

And Robert, congrats!

AuntieAnn said...

I can't look at that STAGED photo without knowing the chain of abuse will continue. If it's not the kids, it's the ex, if it's not the ex it's the dog, if not the dog, it's the bird.

I need to look away, too. She won't stop.

Oh and by the way, sure is a lot of wine in that wine rack behind the kids 'candid' pic, Kate.

NJGal51 said...

I guess we were wrong about TFW and her box-o-wine....I could be wrong, but that looks like a well stocked wine rack behind the kids in their totally in-posed (wink, wink, knudge, knudge) picture with Zorro.

Anonymous said...

Just dropping in for a 14hr road trip all I can say is go Robert & Jon.

Chef.Summer

fidosmommy said...

I wonder how long it will take for Kate to wear "the Mark of Zorro!"
Zzzzzzeeeeee!

I'm afraid neither the bird nor Kate is going to be practicing the fine art of patience with the other. Are we taking bets on where the bird will nip.her first? Finger, arm, face........

Vanessa said...

"For the moment" she's swept it under the rug, like it never happened. We see weakness, she sees nothing-done, over, nada... for now.
This feel good la-di-da "episode"? The fury she's suppressing? It's just under the surface, ready for it's eventual explosion. And it'll come when those kids LEAST expect it. "Something" will set her off and those kids WILL PAY for her losing this lawsuit. They will PAY for Hoffman, for their dad, for things not going HER WAY. That's how she "expresses" the "hurt" she feels when she doesn't get her narcissistic supply. She'll make the kids feel it's something they did, but in reality, it's her lashing out in a fit of rage to let her frustrations out.

Regarding the bird-I know NOTHING about them and I forsee a very sad ending, so I can't imagine what's going through all you bird owners' minds. That pic? My God, how freaking staged was that? All of them holding out their hands? Even the twins? Embarrassed for them, sorry for them.

Vanessa said...

It took Kate years to find an attorney that would take the case on and that was only with the help of another paranoid, BV. I doubt she'll find another attorney for another frivolous lawsuit.
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Haha! You're right, YEARS to get someone to take the case. See how far they will go for vengeance?

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Sleepless, your comment above (#102) just terrifies me. When you talk about stick-like legs and broken beaks, I think about Kate describing the bird as if it's a Fisher-Price toy. Those kids, at least most of them, are not the gentle type.

The G kids remind me of a friend's children from many years ago. The marriage was in deep trouble, the household was in an uproar, the husband was abusive. The kids were feeling all the strain and the lack of parenting.

One day, we were at a playground and came upon a box turtle. My kids were curious and knelt to look at it. But her kids began poking it, rolling it over, yelling at it, roughly picking it up. Their mom did nothing.

My children looked at me and looked at the turtle. I could tell they were as concerned as I was. Children have to be taught respect for living things. It's not necessarily inborn, and if the kids have any issues, it can come out when they "power" over something else.

Poor little bird. The children won't meant to hurt it, but they will.

Vanessa said...

I guess we were wrong about TFW and her box-o-wine....I could be wrong, but that looks like a well stocked wine rack behind the kids in their totally in-posed (wink, wink, knudge, knudge) picture with Zorro.

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Bah! You're not kidding! And that's just the bottom row? How many $$$ worth is there?? Nothing but the bestest and mostest for mommie dearest!!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

If you're piecing and patching, the first thing I'd recommend is stop drinking. You'd be surprised how quickly those 20 buck bottles of wine add up.

NJGal51 said...

To all you bird people out there....how do you feel about clipping? I'm not a bird person so I googled it. I can see why you'd do it but I can also see why some feel it shouldn't be done. I don't know enough (anything) about pet birds so I'd like your opinions. Thanks and happy thanksgiving.

kris said...

No way that pic was taken right before she posted it b/c the kids are still in play clothes...we all know she 'tucks them safety in bed' was earlier than when that pic was posted, so even if she let them stage that pic before bed, they'd be in jammies. Also, I do believe Jon has them b/c we've gotten no pre-Turkey day prep posts and all the bragging that goes along with it, lol. ie: 'kids mouth watering' 'mommy's bestest 10 out of 10 turkey' 'ALL 8 of my kiddos eat all the weird veggies like Brussel Sprouts and tell me THANK YOU Mommy for cooking for a week before we eat it' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You know, her typical lying bullchit she usually spouts.

Nah, it'll be her, the bird & her wine today.

PatK said...

Happy Thanksgiving to all who are celebrating today!

Formerly Duped said...

Happy Thanksgiving!

I too fell sorry for the bird. With eight kids fighting 9 as they do) for time with the bird, it's gotta be frightened. Zorro games? It's not a toy, but a living creature.Bad decision.

Layla said...

OMG, you all are right, that is a full wine rack right behind the kids in the new bird photo. And the box sitting next to it looks like it might contain more. DH occasionally orders multiple bottles of his favorite wine online, and the box is comes in looks exactly like that one.

Vanessa said...

If you're piecing and patching, the first thing I'd recommend is stop drinking. You'd be surprised how quickly those 20 buck bottles of wine add up.

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LOL, yup that was what I was getting at. Also, like with EVERYTHING, she has to have a stock pile? Afraid she might run out? I don't really associate a "single" mom who, as she said, is "patching & piecing" with such an impressive wine collection. Do you? It's another status symbol. She should do like my Italian husband's family and MAKE her own wine! You'll see some pretty savy penny pinching tips there! lol
And just who the hell is she enjoying that wine with? I'm guessing the nanny who leaked the story about her polishing off a bottle of wine a night was telling the truth.

reader said...

Yes plaintiff is motioning to dismiss the entire matter.

Kate Gosselin, Plaintiff vs. Jon Gosselin, et. al. Defendants
Kate Gosselin, hereby voluntarily dismisses the above matter, without prejudice.."

reader said...

You got served is often used as an expression, to mean "I beat you."
Robert has not filed any suit as of this date. I doubt very much that he will need to.
I am glad they stood up to this misuse of the legal system. I am grateful their legal counsel had the wisdom and conviction as well.
I hope their Thanksgiving is an especially joyous one.

PDMan said...

Since she's (allegedly) the only adult in the household, I'd say she's piecin' and patchin' and passin' out.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Whew, I will feel better today knowing TFW has upgraded from wine in a box. Guess if you have it shipped the nosy neighbors don't see your shopping cart. My wish for her would be to have a day with family if her children are with their dad, but sadly she will spend it with a new pet and probably a few of those bottles. Choices, all are choices.

Jumping In said...

Happy Thanksgiving to our southern neighbours!

Just preparing for the dumbing-down of the latest twist of TFW's ridiculous lawsuits. Of course, upon sober, second thought she did what would bring "peace” for her children. But what about the contents of Robert's re-published book in her OWN words?

She will take her skinny self on the talk show circuit where no one will hold her to account. If she is asked to explain her words, she will explain it all away due to lack of sleep and stress....of course. She is bullet-proof because there is a larger circle of an "entertainment" industry that will use her to draw viewers.
curiosity and ratings and

Katie cry-duh said...

Milk is too expensive but wine isn't? She is such a douche

Katie cry-duh said...

Vanessa, your insight into the mind of a narcissist is spot on. They are bizarre, sick and hurtful people

Tucker's Mom said...

I'm just catching up with the new post, and wanted to wish everyone a blessed Thanksgiving!

PatK said...

Kate Gosselin‏@Kateplusmy833m
Happy Thanksgiving, every1! May you overdose on turkey&trimmings while basking in the love of family&friends today! #goodsmellsgr8company

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Happy Happy Joy Joy!

"I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no lawsuit."

Dmasy said...

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.

IWantNobu said...

Kate's tweet-Happy Thanksgiving, every1! May you overdose on turkey&trimmings while basking in the love of family&friends today!
#goodsmellsgr8company

lukebandit said...

Hadn't seen the picture of the bird on the countertop.

Did she slice it herself, plop it on a paper plate, and sling it toward him?

Better be careful, TFWAKAMSDL (the former wife aka ms doo little), those outdated French tips may have to have surgery when Zorro Jay makes his mark. Caw! Caw!

Bitchy Pants said...

Just a quick pop-in to wish everyone who is celebrating a Happy Thanksgiving. Enjoy your day with family and friends, counting your blessings.

To Jon -- you have something to truly be thankful for. Protect your kids.

To Robert -- enjoy the day with your family. Hope to see your revised book very soon (for Cyber Monday, perhaps?).

Let's throw tomatoes said...

I just saw the picture and oh my gosh that little bird is so cute. What did he do to deserve that home. I hope Kate doesn't get violent when she drinks or it might be a long day for anyone or anything in that house.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone and Canadians some of our best road trips we had when our kids were young were in Canada. Love your country!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

RH posted Thanksgiving wishes on his blog.

And Happy Thanksgiving to you, Robert. You and Jon truly have a lot to be thankful for. You and your attorneys beat that horrible woman at her own game.

Call Me Crazy said...

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

AuntieAnn said...

fidosmommy said... 108

I'm afraid neither the bird nor Kate is going to be practicing the fine art of patience with the other. Are we taking bets on where the bird will nip.her
first? Finger, arm, face........

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I hope right on the ass. Then she (or we) can rename him "Karma".
Seriously, will she swat the little thing if he bites her? She has a tendency to do that, especially after she's been drinking. I hate to think about it.

Happy Thanksgiving to our American friends. Gobble gobble! We're going to watch Planes, Trains and Automobiles in honor of you all today.

AuntieAnn said...

PDMan said... 122

Since she's (allegedly) the only adult in the household, I'd say she's piecin' and patchin' and passin' out.

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LOL!

TLC stinks said...

OMG. What a strange picture of all the kids reaching out to the bird. I'm not a bird person, but I love all animals and I feel like this little guy will not make it past New Year's.

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Gracious of Kate to tweet her sheeple nation so early in the day, most of us probably thought she would be silent today. Guess she can take the rest of the day off to play with the bird.

Vanessa said...

Katie cry-duh said
Vanessa, your insight into the mind of a narcissist is spot on. They are bizarre, sick and hurtful people.
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They really are. They will suck the life out of you. There is no penance, no remorse, nothing. If you get sucked back in, it's just a matter of time before they pull their crap again. I'm picturing those kids having a respite of "hey, things are good. look how "happy" she's acting....maybe, just maybe we'll have "peace" (like WOS likes to say)It only lasts for so long. Like I said "something" will set her off. How absolutely confusing to a child. Her inner demons should be hers and hers alone to handle, but it's put on the kids because she now has exhausted all her other options. (well it's always been on the kids but she had jon and Hoffman to focus on for a time)

Vanessa said...

And yes, Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

Vanessa said...

Katie cry-duh said... 125
Milk is too expensive but wine isn't? She is such a douche

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Exactly! She's friggen nuts!!

Vanessa said...

I hope right on the ass. Then she (or we) can rename him "Karma
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baahahahhaa!! That's an LOL!!
Karma bites you in the ass!

lukebandit said...

She can't buy organic milk unless it is on sale and with a coupon, but she can buy a truckload of wine and have it shelved in a rack in her house. Piecing and patching? She is just despicable! On my way to find that picture.

AuntieAnn said...

Poor Shoka will be ignored now, too. He'll of course be made to stay outside while everyone in the house plays with their new pet for the next week, until the fun wears off.

Kate sickens me.

Vanessa said...

OrangeCrusher1 said... 123
Whew, I will feel better today knowing TFW has upgraded from wine in a box.
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Yes, just like the Jeffersons, she's movin'on up!!
She wouldn't know a quality wine if she downed a whole bottle herself. Wait a minute....
Again, it's an image, a status she's seeking. And yes, she looks/is so selfish and CRUEL when she DEPRIVES the kids of the simple things. WHO the EFF takes MILK off their shopping list???

Vanessa said...

Poor Shoka will be ignored now, too. He'll of course be made to stay outside while everyone in the house plays with their new pet for the next week, until the fun wears off.
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Can you not picture her at the patio door giggling at Shoka as he's whining begging to come in and play? I can

Jane said...

Happy Thanksgiving to all and to those celebrating Chanukah, let there be light and latkes!

The Plot Never Ends said...

Happy Thanksgiving everyone, and most especially to Jon and Robert!
So glad all this nonsense ended before the holidays.

What's next for Kate? God only knows....

Vanessa said...

All that wine is just like Nobu, Chilean Bass, fish in paper, leather couch, NY hairstylist, Audi etc...
She is a woman of no substance. She's vapid. She's a caricature of what she THINKS it is to be a woman, mother, wife, friend etc.
and falls short each and every time.

AuntieAnn said...

Can you not picture her at the patio door giggling at Shoka as he's whining begging to come in and play? I can

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Vanessa, yes I can see her doing that and it makes me want to cry. She is just that vindictive to get enjoyment out of it. She loves to screw with the minds and emotions of other living things.

Damn narcissists.

NJGal51 said...

Well said Serendipity @133.

lukebandit said...

The Food Network is having a Pioneer Woman episodes marathon today until the last show at 12:30 pm EST. It has been on for hours this morning! haha to kate.

They did a show about camping down at the creek. It was so nice to see Ree talking to her kids like a human being, instead of sitting there cooking chicken, poking at it and beefing and running her mouth about her problems. The grandparents were there and they were camping out with the kids and Ree and Marlboro Man went back to the house for them time. Kids well behaved and they sincerely loved the food. It looked so good, the beans, the banana boats.

Ree said she has never ate a full banana and she really doesn't like them. But she was making the banana boats because it was for her kids.

kate could of been sitting on a Billion Pillow instead of a Millions Pillow. If she would of half way behaved, let her family into the mix, sorry, no pun intended, friends, the kids friends, allowed her kids to be in sports, gymnastics, activities, her not servicing Steve and not divorce, not cheat people, be hateful to people and especially, the LYING and DECEPTION!

She would of been able to brand like no branding ever before! The money, the contracts of branding, the clothes, toys, food, lifestyle, correctly written cookbooks.

She would of been sitting on the Billion Dollar Pillow.

But those duck down feathers are not there in the BDP.

Sacrifice. When does kate ever do that? Never. I. Say. Never!

lukebandit said...

The following is a parody.

kate is such a turkey, I wonder how ruined her duck feather down pillow is with box to bottled wine? She is eating crow right now, because of the lawsuit and chasing it down with GooseGrey Vodka or Bird Rock Fine Wine.

Hope not.

Lastly, kate is a bird all right, a dodo bird!

reader said...

.the bird should be in the wild.
Birds were given wings for a reason...to be free. Not locked in a cage with their wings clipped just so we can look at them. Who are we to take that freedom away from them? Just like any other animal we snatch from the wild...lock them up for our own selfish reasons.

I could not agree more, caging any animal for our entertainment does not sit well with me. Birds are not domesticated.

http://www.britannica.com/blogs/2008/01/birds-are-not-domesticated-animals-national-bird-day-january-5/

lukebandit said...

Let me try again.

Sacrifice, kate sacrifice for her kids? Never. I. Say. Never!

Steve, always.

She is suppressing the volatile anger she has for losing the lawsuit and I think when The Book comes out, that will trigger an explosion.

I pray that the kids are with Jon when she finds out or if they are at home that M and C have Jon's number on speed dial and call him for help. Then, if it is bad, Jon can call the police to be on their way, until he gets there. I'm serious.

Katie cry-duh said...

Vanessa said...

Who the EFF takes MILK off their shopping list?
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I know, right? It's a no brainer. With kids, you buy it anyway if at all possible. Buy the milk, cut out the snack foods and steak...and wine, ahem. Hopefully next time I can splurge.

She is so selfish and stingy with those kids. And I also get the feeling she was grifting for milk. Wait, I just heard myself. Duh. Of course she was. Damn Donkey.

Formerly Duped said...

She should have bought a cow; then she'd have milk.

lukebandit said...

If she had of bought a cow, the boys would have to do it. They would be known as the milk bucket boys. Just another hard chore on their to do for mommy list. The boys: the chickens, the dog, the bird, the fish.

This is why Kendra swapped the girls jobs with the boys and the boys jobs for the girls. She knew the boys had it bad. The girls had it bad, they all had it bad. That is why she was crying. I just wish Kendra would of went nuts at kate about it at the meeting.

Did you see the look kate gave Kendra when she was talking about the kids, she started crying? kate thought, OOOOHHH NOOOO! What is she fixing to say! Wow, Kendra, I wished you had. That would of made headlines.

Kate is a twit said...

A OB ‏@Acertaingirl 5h
@Kateplusmy8 please research about letting parrots sit on a shoulder. I have a 22 year old grey, and much experience. Good luck with Z!

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 3h
@Acertaingirl I just googled it! In all my research,I had no idea. Some of those things I 'sorta' knew,but most I didn't! Thx! Will train!:)

So much for doing research about the bird. I'm surprised she hasn't been bitten yet.

JoyinVirginia said...

I hope everyone has had a fabulous Thanksgiving!

Over And Out said...

I could not agree more, caging any animal for our entertainment does not sit well with me. Birds are not domesticated.

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Birds most certainly are domesticated. Knowledgeable breeders hand feed, raise and nurture them through the weaning stage, and have for a very long time. I think, though, that this is one of the hot controversial topics (like politics) that admin says is best to avoid here. There are strong cases for both sides, and nobody is going to change anyone's mind on the subject.

PA Dutch Mom said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 25m

@Kateplusmy8 @Acertaingirl 4clarification ..I use "discipline" 2mean voice/eye contact & hand signals perhaps as ways 2help Zorro behave! :)

Behave? Good gawd, Milo. This is not a dog! Milo, who says she knows nothing about birds, has now stepped in with links and advice for Kate. I swear -- Gladys in her worst days was nothing like this.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

"Discipline" that poor sweet little bird??? Good grief what could he possibly do wrong?! He's a bitty BIRD. He eats, he poops, he sits in his cage. I suppose he may peck but he's probably SCARED, sheesh he's not being MALICIOUS! What's next, a miniature spanker for the poor thing?

Hope everyone had a nice holiday!

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Kate says kids have 'anger' over divorce":

I'm sorry, but I can't beleive this site is accusing Kate of abusing her kids

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Comment from November 2010. I guess we were right and anonymous was wrong. Sadly so.

Layla said...

No mention of the kids today, no tales of her days and days of cooking. The kids are with Jon today, no doubt. Hopefully they are with extended family and friends, while their mother sits at home alone and tweets about the new bird. She has nobody to spend the holiday with--no family, no friends. Only her twitter buddies who don't really know her. I doubt that she even got an invite from anyone. If it were anyone else, I would feel for that person, but TFW has thrown everyone in her life away like trash, so she completely deserves it.

I agree with the person above who said TFW could have been set if she hadn't blown it all. All she had to do is work hard and treat others with respect. She did neither, apparently thinking that she was above it all, and now she dealing with the results of her actions and her nasty attitude. She sits alone at home on one of the biggest holidays of the year, one that is traditionally spent with loved ones, and she is divorced, friendless, estranged from her family, bitter, unemployed, washed up, mocked, ridiculed--and she has done this to herself. I wonder if she looks around her empty house and wonders if it was all worth it. I wonder if she even realizes how badly she treated people. If she realizes that everyone leaves her because she was mean, spiteful, nasty, vindictive, and acted like she was too good for everyone else. Now she's left with nobody but her kids. I hope she realizes that if she treats them like that, they can choose to live with their dad one day and cut her out of their lives, just like she has done to so many people. And I hope she realizes that they are all she has left so she should cherish every moment with them.

We are all stuffed, drowsy, and a Midsomer Murders Christmas episode is just starting. All my sons are home, DS#1 made it through his first full day since his last surgery without any painkillers, and DS#2 brought his fiancé home for her first Thanksgiving with the family. Life is good. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.

capecodmama said...

Hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving. We had a wonderful day and even met our new neighbors across the street.

Lukebandit...I agree. TFW is indeed a dodo bird.

Ingrid said...

Now she tweets about the big meal she cooked and everyone being stuffed. Do we believe it? NOOOOOOO

Ingrid said...

I hope everyone had a great day. We did ours last Sunday so everyone could make it. Today I was sitting around doing nothing. Got call from my brother that he was taking 80 yr old mom to hospital. She has pneumonia so will be in for a few days. I am thankful it wasn't something worse.

Ampersmom said...

Hope everyone had a Happy Thanksgiving!

localyocul said...

Are you freakin kidding me? Who tweets this?:

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 6m
Mady, to me: 'It's not your fault you're so fabulous.'
#appreciated #followingalldaycookathon

My 73 year-old mom cooked dinner like she always has. Its not an "all day cookathon as most of the prep is done the day before or in the morning then in spurts. So did a million other mothers today. GMAB

scgal said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 6
Mady, to me: 'It's not your fault you're so fabulous.'
#appreciated #followingalldaycookathon
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Sometimes TFW has to be her own narcissistic supply.

PatK said...

So Jon didn't have the kids for Thanksgiving?

I see she's tweeting kid cute-isms again. Pretty sad she has nothing else in her life to share with her fans.

Layla said...

Hmmm, TFW waits until 9ps to suddenly tweet about the kids and cooking, then minutes later tweets about watching football with them. I guess this means Jon dropped them off at 9. No way did she have them there for the holiday. She would have been whining about all the cooking she had to do all day long.

JoyinVirginia said...

I rewatched some of my favorite parts of the DWTS finale this afternoon while recovering from dinner. Amber who won does not have the typical slender starlet body, but the costume and hair and makeup folks made her look great! She wore form fitting costumes that showed off her curves. And Derek her partner came up with some terrific choreography to emphasize her skills. She worked really hard despite a knee injury, and she appreciated the opportunity. She was so grateful when she won. And you bet this experience will enhance her reputation as a hard worker and may open more opportunities in the future.
That's only one opportunity that TFMJG threw away, among so many others. What did TFMJG do to make the crew not try their hardest to make her look her best?

localyocul said...

I had a thought...the week before she and Jon dismissed his part of the lawsuit, I think he was in the Couples Therapy house. I wonder if any of the drama played out on camera there? We may learn something about it come January...

rainsbowsandunicorns said...

Are you freakin kidding me? Who tweets this?:

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 6m
Mady, to me: 'It's not your fault you're so fabulous.'
#appreciated #followingalldaycookathon

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Someone who needs her ego inflated 24/7. Good gosh.

rainsbowsandunicorns said...

"Discipline" that poor sweet little bird??? Good grief what could he possibly do wrong?! He's a bitty BIRD. He eats, he poops, he sits in his cage. I suppose he may peck but he's probably SCARED, sheesh he's not being MALICIOUS! What's next, a miniature spanker for the poor thing?

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Milo is an idiot who needs to shut the heck up. She's got more than a few screws loose. Sometimes she's amusing, but when she makes comments like that, you have to take a deep breath...

Milo is a

lukebandit said...

kate tweeted that she was doing a all day cooking marathon? Woo! What a Whopper! She hasn't even mentioned not one thing about cooking anything, just about THE BIRD and PHOTOS!

She must be drinking and watching Pioneer Woman's almost all day cooking marathon with her nice personality, well behaved kids, not slapping the hello out of Marlboro Man and piecing and patching.

Really. Did Mady say that it was not kates fault for being so fabulous?
Either Mady is really there and said it out of survival and appeasement or kate's LYING. I think kate is LYING!

Why does she do this, LIE and Embarrass her children???

I believe they went to Jon's today and she knew the younger kids would tell Jon, Oh, Daddy, Mommy got us a bird. ooohhhooohhh. She is so sadistic that she would pay any price for spite/vengeance and try to ruin Jon's Tday for him and the kids! For Jon to have to listen to 6 little broken records go on and on and on about THE BIRD!

In her response to her research to the tweeter, remember she said she researched, how she went on about how much she researched, she said she googled and didn't know about letting them sit on her shoulder a new bird. Then she put will train. Will train?

She is crazy.

Need to add on the bird parody. She called the man who knew about the birds in AU, Mr. Kiwi Man. Idiot.

NJGal51 said...
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Sounds like Mady is mocking her.

She cooked ALL day long? When do you spend time with family and friends? We prepare as much as we can ahead of time, always have, so that turkey day is just sticking the bird in and heating everything else up. This way, some of the holiday can be spent with loved ones, not slaving all day in front of the stove. Wednesday is for that.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


I had a thought...the week before she and Jon dismissed his part of the lawsuit, I think he was in the Couples Therapy house. I wonder if any of the drama played out on camera there? We may learn something about it come January...

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Maybe so. It must be very hard to date someone who is the victim of parental alienation even going so far as to sue him. It must be so stressful. In many ways not only is Kate causing emotional harm to her children with this nonsense, but she is also jeopardizing what could be a very positive relationship for her ex and his children. Liz may be great for the kids, but if Kate keeps this crap up enough she might eventually throw in the towel. A person can only put up with so much in a relationship, I give her credit.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Hmmm, TFW waits until 9ps to suddenly tweet about the kids and cooking, then minutes later tweets about watching football with them. I guess this means Jon dropped them off at 9.

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Ding ding ding ding ding. That's her M.O. Completely off the radar when the kids are gone or she's gone from the kids, then back on twitter full speed as soon as she's reunited with the kids. Sad.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...

Its not an "all day cookathon as most of the prep is done the day before or in the morning then in spurts

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Exactly local. If you're cooking all day today, you probably didn't make everything to the table.

Layla said...

I bet TFW does Thanksgiving dinner with the kids tomorrow, then takes pictures to post on twitter so she can pretend they were with her for Thanksgiving.

lukebandit said...

As soon as Milo found out that kate got a bird, she/he/? ran out and got the book, How To Train Up a Bird and is giving kate instructions from it!

She is worse than ever before.

Over In TFW's County said...

As soon as Milo found out that kate got a bird, she/he/? ran out and got the book, How To Train Up a Bird and is giving kate instructions from it!

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She did? Wow. I thought she just tweeted her a link.

Jen said...

Lukebandit, are you sure Milo ran out and bought a book about birds? I looked at Milo's timeline and see a link to a parrot website but nothing about her purchasing a book. Could you share where you saw that? Than ks

lukebandit said...

I was joking about the bird book. I am sorry, I should of put j/k at the end. I was making fun of Milo because she was giving kate discipline tips for the bird. I'm very sorry for the confusion.



PA Dutch Mom said...

Fired Up 4 Kate ‏@MiloandJack 2h
@Kateplusmy8 Weren't U a cheerleader N high school?

And that means Kate should know about football? Her school didn't have a football team.
Anything to get a response from her.

lukebandit said...

My mother and I were talking on the phone tonight and every once in awhile she will tell me the I won't get on a boat and go out on the ocean story. She never has went on a boat and doesn't intend to. Rogue waves, tsumanis caused by undersea earthquakes, anything could happen on a ship and or a cruise ship at any moment.

Now, she would love to take a river cruise, because they can get to you pretty quick. ok.

I just happened to mention the episode of kate when they took the chartered boat out so kate could catch a fish. My point to my mother was going to be that I could not understand why kate wanted to go out 25 miles from shore instead of going only maybe 3 miles or 5. Then I remember the captain saying to get to the fish you have to go out 20, 25 miles out. He was just charging up the bill. Money. And those kids had no life jackets.

Then I told her about the kids getting sea sick. She said that was scripted and that they, the kids faked it. I said WHAT? Are you kidding? She has never saw an episode of any Gosselins what so ever. I told her about the kids getting violently ill and some were laying in their vomit asleep, sick bent over the sides of the boat. She said they were told to do it, they were faking. She couldn't get away from the word fake. My BP was raising like crazy, and I said they were not faking, mother!

She said kate put wax behind their ears! I said, oh my! Mother, come on. That woman is crazy. Not my mother, kate is.

I still love my mother.

kate, never have, never will.

AuntieAnn said...

Kate Gosselin ‏@Kateplusmy8 6

Mady, to me: 'It's not your fault you're so fabulous.'
#appreciated #followingalldaycookathon

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Oh please Kate.

Here's the unedited version:


Kate to Mady: 'Aren't I something? Aren't I the greatest mom, no wait, make that the greatest PERSON walking the face of the earth? I'm fabulous aren't I? Really I am and through no fault of my own either. I can't help it. I was born fabulous whether I wanted to be fabulous or not. Say it Mady...tell me how fabulous I am. Say it, SAY IT damn it. TELL ME HOW FABULOUS I AM!!!!!!'

Mady, to me: 'Um... okay mommy dearest. It's not your fault you're so fabulous.'

Anonymous said...

Those of us who have or had a13 year old girl knows that no way in heck would a 13 yr old daughter EVER say that to their mother, they are too busy thinking THEY are fabulous, its just basic knowledge of normal female teen development. That last lie of hers rings so false on the ears of mothers everywhere who have survived teendom in daughters....and if true???? oh my, makes one wonder what damage she is doing to her offspring.
laura jean

fidosmommy said...

I'm going to give TFW the benefit of the doubt on Thanksgiving. Jon may have celebrated with the kids on Thursday and TFW may have spent part of her day doing preps for a Friday dinner.

I agree it is sad that if she was alone for Thanksgiving that she didn't' receive / didn't accept an invitation to someone's house.

kids are more than 'brats' said...

http://stoopidhousewives.com/2013/11/26/teresa-giudice-the-dilemma-when-do-children-become-topics-of-conversation-the-exploitation-of-gia-giudice/

Excellent guide as to how to handle the criticism the Gosselin children get due to their parents - both Jon and Kate.

Just because they do it, doesn't mean we should,

KitK said...

As soon as Milo found out that kate got a bird, she/he/? ran out and got the book, How To Train Up a Bird and is giving kate instructions from it!**
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Funny one, Luke! (Tongue in cheek, I believe)

TLC stinks said...

I agree with poster that Kate will pretend she had the kids for Thanksgiving. It is clear with her being a Twitter quiet the kids were with Jon.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said...


Excellent guide as to how to handle the criticism the Gosselin children get due to their parents - both Jon and Kate.

Just because they do it, doesn't mean we should,

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I think most people here have been crystal clear that the rare negative things said about the kids relates directly back to choices their parents made and that none of it is their fault.

Millicent said...


What's the status of the class-action supposedly filed against quite a few "haters?"
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No such suit has ever been filed. If it had been filed, we would have heard about it. And it's my considered opinion that no such suit ever will be filed. It was just smoke and mirrors.

NJGal51 said...

@Kateplusmy8: GN! 1 last word of wisdom: save that turkey carcass!Look up my chicken noodle soup or chicken corn soup in #LoveIsInTheMix &enjoy #leftovers

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Thank God TFW is here to tell us to save the turkey carcass to make soup! What a novel idea! I don't think she's going to sell too many cookbooks with that tweet as we've all got our own recipe that has been passed down through the ages.

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