Wednesday, November 6, 2013

'In Loving Memory of Hope': How the tables were turned on Kate by a scammer


Terminal cancer. Kind celebrities who reached out with love and support. A song sung as a dying wish. Nightline's year-long investigation about a sophisticated scam that preyed mostly on celebrities' emotions, not dollars, turned up none other than Kate Gosselin as a victim. Brad Paisley, John Henson, Natalie Grant, and others were also contacted by the scammer, who sometimes pretended a woman was ill and sometimes pretended a little girl was ill.

Kate spoke with Nightline via e-mail, and says she was reaching out in 2008 to a woman named Hope who said she was a cancer patient. She spoke to the woman on the phone for several months, and when she found out Hope had "died" she dedicated an episode of Jon and Kate to her (the episode 'Gosselins Go Skiing and the dedication to Hope at the end can be viewed on Youtube). Kate had no idea she was scammed until Nightline told her recently.

The savvier Natalie Grant, however, suspected something was off right away, but then felt guilty for questioning it. "I actually was mad at myself for even having those thoughts because I thought, 'Natalie, how could you be thinking this? This is a little girl who's on her deathbed, taking her final breaths, how could you even be questioning this?'" Other celebs also suspected something was wrong as the scam was going on, after talking to "Hope" on the phone or asking for details about her treatment.

To see the rest of this fascinating mystery and find out who was behind it all, read the full account here or catch Nightline late tonight (early this morning in some areas, check local listings.)

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Marie said...

Favorite DListed Comment:

TheShowgirl
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In Kate's defense, boxed macaroni and cheese with tuna and peas would be a memorable meal. You'd remember that mess when you're sitting on the toilet shitting your brains out and/or puking. So yeah, homegirl wasn't lying. Just don't forget to Instagram that event and you're golden.

Marie

Marie said...

Universal reaction:

http://img210.imageshack.us/im...

Bwahahahaha . . .

localyocul said...

Tucker's Mom said... 196
Kate is a twit said... 153
There were 3 times that the Gosselins went to BHI. The first time was with Jon and Kate in 2008-they made 3 episodes out of it.
"Heading South","Wild Horses" and "Beach Trip" which aired in Aug. 2008.
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Wait, I thought they went to OBX, NC during J+K+8. I believe they were in Corolla or Corolla Light.

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Yes, the 20078 ones were OBX. In fact my sister's friend was on vacation right next door and came back saying what a b**** TFW was to everyone. That was the same summer I saw her Love Offering talk and the combo is why I began googling her and finding I wasn't the only one who was disgusted by her behavior.

Layla said...

Happy Veteran's Day, everyone!
Today I am thankful that my oldest son, a disabled veteran, is home for good. He was injured last year, endured multiple surgeries, and now is out of the military and back home, where he can rest and concentrate on healing and moving on with his life. He hopes to make a complete recovery (or as close to complete as possible), go back to college, and start a career. He thinks it's a bit odd to be back home with Mom and Dad when he's in his 20s, but he realizes that he needs someone to help take care of him as he heals.
After 3 weeks home he is up and moving around, hanging out with his brothers, and laughing a lot. Yesterday he went shopping with me, and was able to get around with a cane instead of crutches. He has made more progress in 3 weeks at home than he did in 8 months after his last surgery.
Life is good, and I am blessed!

localyocul said...

Marie said... 3
Favorite DListed Comment:

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How about this one:

Shamallama • an hour ago −
The one in glasses is going down! Touching the food! I can feel Kate's eyes burning!!!

pink bitchy pants said...

Bless you and your family Layla

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I wonder if Al Walentis will be subpoenaed too because he recounts in his book that Robert (anonymous) and Jon had a pap relationship to cut out any middlemen in Sept. 2009.

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Again then any evidence they seek to admit has to somehow go to PROVING Kate's allegations. Even if they were the best friends in the world, it does not prove either one of them did anything that Kate alleges in her lawsuit. Look at it this way. O.J. Simpson had lots of friends. Close friends even. But the friendship itself does not prove or disprove any of them had anything, whatsoever, to do with the murder of his wife. IT's just a friendship, that's all. The court of law is not like a blog. Everything has to somehow relate to the allegations. And usually, directly. Most of this stuff would be thrown out on relevance grounds. Whatever Jon's friendship with Robert is, it's pretty irrelevant. You can conspire to do or not do something wrong with your friend, with your acquaintance, and even with your enemy. All this blah blah from everyone about their friendship is irrelevant.

Anonymous said...

Layla, say thanks to your son.

PJ

localyocul said...

Hee hee

trashywilma • 16 minutes ago −
I see they stuck Maddie in the back again. Maddie came out of Kate's womb and became Kate's arch enemy. She is going to make Kate's life a living hell.

I can't wait.

http://media.tumblr.com/f16c3c...

NJGal51 said...

May God bless your son with a speedy recovery Layla.

Dmasy said...

Layla,blessings to you and your son. Thank you for sharing with us.

Amy2 said...

Layla, I echo Dmasy's posting. I wish your son well, on his road to recovery.

Jane said...

Layla - a special thank you to your son and to all who served our country.

Formerly Duped said...

Layla, wishing your son a quick and complete recovery and please thank him, on this day of honor for his comrades and him.

Somewhere In Time said...

http://media.tumblr.com/f16c3c...

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What is this? All I get is an error code. Thanks.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Layla, you must be so proud. My prayers are for his speedy and full recovery and please give him my thanks for his service.

Millicent said...

Layla - so happy to hear your son is recuperating and planning for the rest of his life :) Thank him for his service please.

Layla said...

Thank you everyone! I am just so proud of him for working so hard to recover and move forward in his life. Yesterday he said, "I may be disabled now, but I won't let it define me". I love his spirit and determination. And after all he's been through in the past year, it just brings tears to my eyes to hear him laughing his big, booming laugh again. He was so depressed for so long, worrying that he'd never walk again, but now he has his old spirit back. Our soldiers are a courageous and resilient bunch, aren't they? I give a lot of credit to the wonderful staff at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, who have worked so hard with him and our other wounded warriors. They perform miracles there.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Layla, God bless you, your son and your family. Your son sounds like a nice young man. May he make that full recovery and we appreciate his courage and service to our country.

Formerly Duped said...

Layla, I'm sure your being his mom has a lot to do with your son's determination and spirit :) I like how you credited the hospital staff too. Military hospitals do wonderful work and rehab.

localyocul said...

Somewhere In Time said... 17
http://media.tumblr.com/f16c3c...

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What is this? All I get is an error code. Thanks.

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http://media.tumblr.com/f16c3c7b1ccc4c0cd16b337ebb4299e5/tumblr_inline_mrmz451pms1qz4rgp.gif

Somewhere In Time said...


http://media.tumblr.com/f16c3c7b1ccc4c0cd16b337ebb4299e5/tumblr_inline_mrmz451pms1qz4rgp.gif

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I don't know, local. All I see is a guy laughing. I'm usually slow, but not always this slow! Maybe, with a few shots of rumspringa, I'll get it!

Vanessa said...

@ Layla,
A big thank you to your son, wish him all the best for now and for his future endeavors.

capecodmama said...

Layla...Glad to hear your son's doing well. Thank him for his service.

readerlady said...

Layla, thank your son and give him an extra hug today. It's young men and women like him who make me proud to be an American. Thanks to everyone here who served or who is part of a military family.

readerlady said...

localyocal -- that link doesn't work either. Why don't you just tell us what it is/says? Please?

Ampersmom said...

Layla
A Big Thank You to your son for his service.
So glad you got to hear his booming laughter. Warms a mom's heart.

localyocul said...

Esteem • 27 minutes ago
I'm going to surmise she makes the oldest two feed the younger ones while she sits on her ass in front of the TV.

Formerly Duped said...

And we must not forget the many other countries whose soldiers helped win the wars for peace.May the reason for Veterans Day/Remembrance Day never be forgotten.

lukebandit said...

Layla, congrats on your son's wonderful recovery so far. Tell him thank you for his service. It is amazing that he got more better in 3 weeks than months in the hospital/rehab. He's home and home is where the hearts love him so much!

Ally said...

Hey all, I have some interesting news to share.
After threatening legal action and fraud on wantable.com, they finally responded via email to tell me they are sorry that I want to cancel and can reenroll anytime! Yeah, right. I guess threatening with a lawsuit is what it needed to take. Shameless. I'm still on the lookout though. Can't take them at their word.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Anonymous, ignore an attorney's phone calls if you like, but the last time my witness ignored my calls, as well as blew off my subpoena, I asked for a bench warrant and body attachment for this person, and got it. Proceed with caution.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Kate's TL, like the cookbook, is DOA. Milo is still tweeting pictures of baby animals. She's fuming because Barb is still the winner of the contest. She's not going to let this go until she tops Barb. Amusing!

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Nope.. She won't stop. In fact, she didn't get a response from Kate for the picture of the puppy driving the car, so she just posted it again. If at first you fail, try, try again!

Speaking of the sheeple. I'll say one thing for them. They are very good at baiting. Masters, in fact. They have it down to a science, particularly the one who baits (mostly with untruths) until the haters bite, and then she cries to Kate that she's being bullied. I've never seen anything like this.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

puppy driving the car

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Ok that's cute.

Amy2 said...

Admin,
I understand bench warrant, but what is a body attachment?

Virginia Pen Mom said...

http://starcasm.net/archives/251718

I saw this link on Twitter - "Top 5 most biting reviews of Kate Gosselin’s cookbook, Love is in the Mix."

Too funny!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Ok that's cute.
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Yeah, the first time. She retweeted it just now along with another she tweeted earlier. Man, Barb getting "cutest photo" is reeeeeally bothering Milo, isn't it?

#creepy

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Amy it's essentially an order to arrest and throw in jail for contempt until the next court date, but it also lets the person turn themselves in. It's sort of like you're going to be arrested or you can come here on your own, you choose.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Is this the same as those dogs who are trained to drive cars? I swear I saw this on 60 Minutes or something. They give the dog commands and the dog will actually drive left, right, stop speed up. Wild.

Call Me Crazy said...

"I may be disabled now, but I won't let it define me."

Layla - Your son's story and words are inspiring. Please tell him "thank you" for his service and sacrifice. I wish him and your family all the best.

localyocul said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 39
Is this the same as those dogs who are trained to drive cars? I swear I saw this on 60 Minutes or something. They give the dog commands and the dog will actually drive left, right, stop speed up. Wild

(((((((
I saw that!! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20614593

Lynn said...

Off topic here, but I just returned from my local Barnes & Noble. Stopped by after work to order a new book by my favorite author that does not appear until November 19. Couldn't resist asking how many copies of TFW's cookbook were sold because it is no longer in the cookbook section. The clerk told me 3 since September.

localyocul said...

Now she's going to do a teen internet radio show:

Teen Groove ‏@TeenGroove 27m
Wow! Great line-up of guests coming up on Keeping Up With Cool! A few names - @PrintzBoard @Kateplusmy8 @MrEricHall @Sariah & @DeonForever.

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 39
Ok that's cute.
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Yeah, the first time. She retweeted it just now along with another she tweeted earlier. Man, Barb getting "cutest photo" is reeeeeally bothering Milo, isn't it?

#creepy

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It really is, Tweet-le. Creepy and desperate, annoying and ODD. What a package! I bet she's one of those people who, when you try to ignore her, keeps repeating the same thing over and over until you finally say, "WHAT?!"

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 41
Is this the same as those dogs who are trained to drive cars? I swear I saw this on 60 Minutes or something. They give the dog commands and the dog will actually drive left, right, stop speed up. Wild.
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That sounds kind of familiar but not sure I saw it.

PatK said...

localyocul said... 45
Now she's going to do a teen internet radio show:

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Can you say "obscure"? LOL

And Layla, God Bless your son and continued best wishes for him!

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

http://starcasm.net/archives/251718

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Compare the eyebrow in the first photo with that in the last photo...looks like it is standing at attention -- some weird kind of erection.

Good photo, too, of the invisible good bra.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

And not to be outdone by Milo, here comes Barb:

Barbara Gilmer ‏@BarbGilmer 6m
Baby honey @Kateplusmy8 this is the pic of all time, besides the #babydolphin :) nov15th coming up! pic.twitter.com/8a9VlBwK8k

These are like a bunch of grade school kids..."Mrs. Smith, look at this. Mine is better than Susie's! I win!"

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Off topic here, but I just returned from my local Barnes & Noble. Stopped by after work to order a new book by my favorite author that does not appear until November 19. Couldn't resist asking how many copies of TFW's cookbook were sold because it is no longer in the cookbook section. The clerk told me 3 since Septembe

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Mine didn't have any in the store. I asked the clerk if they were sold out and he said, no, they were sent back. I asked if they could be ordered, or if they were out of print already, and he said that he wasn't sure, but he'd check. I told him there was no need...I was just curious.

Kate is a twit said...

localyocul said... 45
Now she's going to do a teen internet radio show:

Teen Groove ‏@TeenGroove 27m
Wow! Great line-up of guests coming up on Keeping Up With Cool! A few names - @PrintzBoard @Kateplusmy8 @MrEricHall @Sariah & @DeonForever.
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That show is hosted by the teen author, Lenore Luca, that Kate met at the Baltimore Book Festival. I wonder if she interviewed Kate when she was there. According to these tweets, that seems to be the case.

Lenore Luca ♡ ‏@LenoreLuca 28 Sep
Great meeting @kateplusmy8 today! Thanks for taking time out to chat with me. Hope some recipes help me… http://instagram.com/p/e0jgrWx4I1/

Teen Groove ‏@TeenGroove 11 Oct
Can't wait for @LenoreLuca to share the video when she interviewed @Kateplusmy8 and asked for a recipe for a college girl to bake for a guy

The show is on an internet TV network. This is the host's twitter bio:

"I'm just a normal teen who loves to talk a lot. Host of @TeenGroove , Author, Motivational Speaker and producer/host of Keeping Up With Cool! on FirstRun.tv"

Rhymes with Witch said...

And we must not forget the many other countries whose soldiers helped win the wars for peace. May the reason for Veterans Day/Remembrance Day never be forgotten. 31

IIRC, the last living veteran from WWI died in England during the past
year. RIP.

Layla, thanks to your son and all who serve(d).

Then there is epic disrespect:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/brad-pitt-movie-sparks-fury-england-article-1.1513106

Kate is a twit said...

Layla-I also want to give a heartfelt thank you to your son for his service, and also thank you for raising such a fine young man.

Lalalalala said...

Layla, give your son a huge hug from me and save one for yourself. My son was in the Navy when the war broke out in 2003 and I thank God every day that he came home safe and sound. It's young men and women like your son who really 'took one for the team' and went above and beyond. He should be so proud of himself. It brings tears to my eyes just thinking about it. Service men like your son is what makes me so proud to be an American.

Tucker's Mom said...

Kate is a twit said... 54
Layla-I also want to give a heartfelt thank you to your son for his service, and also thank you for raising such a fine young man.

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+1000!

Jane said...

Robert has new posts up
http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

http://dlisted.com/2013/11/11/someone-needs-to-tell-kate-gosselin-to-stop/#

Look in the comments section, there is a "princess Spaz" that looks an awful lot like Ms. "I don't sock" CJ whodumbit. She threatens to tell bullyville on the mean ole comments.

Pam

localyocul said...

Anonymous said... 58
http://dlisted.com/2013/11/11/someone-needs-to-tell-kate-gosselin-to-stop/#

Look in the comments section, there is a "princess Spaz" that looks an awful lot like Ms. "I don't sock" CJ whodumbit. She threatens to tell bullyville on the mean ole comments.

Pam

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I saw that; I think it's a hater being sarcastic. That being said, you can tell the majority of the comments aren't people who follow the gosselin saga closely. And they STILL hate Kate. LOL

Virginia Pen Mom said...

Jane said... 57
Robert has new posts up
http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com

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She looks so much better in those 2009 photos--she was pretty. Too bad she had to look like all the plastic Hollywood Barbies. Now she just looks weird. (Love the erect eyebrow comment up above!)

Lalalalala said...

Re: GosselinBook.

She knows most people hate her. She knows people have nothing but contempt for her but she still thinks she can land a TV show. I want whatever it is she's drinking.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Tucker agree. Also when Hailey explained to Kate look my parents say I have to stop with this, and I would like to stop too and it's interfering in my life, what did Kate say? She sure didn't say oh my gosh Hailey I'm just so sorry this as disrupted your life and I understand completely why you would want to walk away and I wish you the best.

Nope, Kate doesn't care what this is doing to Hailey, her family including her parents whom she was supposedly close with. She still wants Hailey to get involved. It's not like Hailey has information about a murder. It's a stupid hard drive. Time to move on, and to let HAILEY move on too. But noooo.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Had my witness returned my first phone calls I would have first told them before I issue a subpoena would you be willing to come down of your own accord, and what day would be convenient for you and we'll do our best to accommodate YOU? Then, had they not ignored my next calls, I could have told them there is now a subpoena that will be coming your way shortly but let me know and I can always withdraw it and you can just come of your own accord at your own convenience on a date we agree on.

Had they not ignored my last calls, I could have explained that if they didn't come to court tomorrow the judge was going to issue a warrant, and she said she was fully intending to do it and it would be great if you come to court so she doesn't have to do that.

That's why those attorney phone calls are important. That's why. You're not an opposing party, you're a witness. It's stupid to ignore those calls, if only just to listen to what they are calling about and say no comment.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 62
Tucker agree. Also when Hailey explained to Kate look my parents say I have to stop with this, and I would like to stop too and it's interfering in my life, what did Kate say? She sure didn't say oh my gosh Hailey I'm just so sorry this as disrupted your life and I understand completely why you would want to walk away and I wish you the best.
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I watched the J+K+8 episode about Kate getting her plastic surgery consultation and the Glassmans were featured quite a bit. As I thought, Mrs. Glassman just wanted to reach out to help Kate. In fact, she took care of Kate in her own home for days after the surgery so Kate could rest.
The Glassmans also took Jon in when Kate told him the marriage was over and get out.
To be fair, both Jon and Kate dishonored and disrespected these nice people. No good deed goes unpunished.
BTW, if you go back to watch that episode, watch Kate's flesh-melting face when Dr. Glassman declines to do a boob job on her. I thought I could see smoke coming out from Kate's ears.
She. Was. Pissed.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I very much remember Mr. and Mrs. Glassman from that episode and I felt they were both very sincere. They seemed very well off, I really don't think they needed the product placement.

Hailey must be trying for them at times, but I think their ultimatum to her she needs to stop messing around with the Gosselins came from a place of love and maturity. When I read they had told her that, my respect for them increased.

Hook 'em Horns said...

The tummy tuck episode was when I first got bad vibes from Kate. When she asked for EXTRA (boob job) when the tummy tuck was already FREE warning bells went off. By the time she was screeching "IGNORE US!!! GOSSLIN'S COMING THROUGH!!" at the parade, I hated her. I also remember the episode when they took the tups back to visit the NICU. (The one where she made Jon change the kids shoes before they left, then got mad at him because it was muddy when they got there). The nurses did not know the children, and were VERY underwhelmed at seeing Kate.

Over And Out said...

Matthew Rollins ‏@jmatthewrollins 5m
the only thing that would make this season's #DWTS any better would be having @Kateplusmy8 come back for a guest appearance

lol! I want whatever THIS one is smokin' because it must be some pretty good stuff!

Marine Mom said...

Layla, a very happy vetrans day to your boy. Sometimes the love and home is the best cure of all. I'm praying for him and you. Go on just doin what a mom does best...... mothering. It's good for your and his soul.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Regarding that director, the article says he knew what day it was. How do they know this? They don't say. Are they sure about that? He's American, and we celebrate Memorial Day in May. Today, Veteran's Day, is generally for living veterans. I know other countries mark similar days but I couldn't tell you the exact day. How much in advance was he made aware that the British were marking their Memorial Day on a shooting day? Movie schedules are planned weeks and usually months in advance especially for a production as huge as that. Trying to change around a big battle could be an absolute nightmare. If he knew all along and planned a big battle for that day, that's different. I don't know, I just felt like that was a bit unfair to his side of the story.

Layla said...

Thank you again, everyone, for the happy wishes for my son. He's such a wonderful young man, and he has so much spirit. I can honestly say that he is the kindest person I have ever known. He wanted to serve in the military, like his dad, and despite his injuries, he finished out his 4 years. He inspires me.
My whole family strongly supports the Wounded Warrior Project, and a goal we have set as a family is to participate in the WWP 8k. It will take awhile for DS#1 (I have a bunch of sons, as you might have figured out by now, so I'll just start numbering them to distinguish which one is which) to be able to do an 8k, but we will do it, and we will do it together.

As far as "figuring TFW out", the thing that always bothered me was how little appreciation she showed for her healthy children. She should be falling to her knees every day, thanking God for what she has. She has never lost a child, has never had to worry that one of her children might never walk again, has not had to endure any serious illnesses or disabilities. Look at Betty Hayes (from Table for 12) and her disabled child. She was so strong and so loving with the girl (I think her name is Rebecca). I saw them on a talk show a couple weeks ago, and one of the older sons was holding Rebecca and was so good with her. You can tell that the whole family is committed to giving that little girl the best of care and showing her love every moment of every day. Can you imagine TFW with a child like that? Thank heavens that Rebecca was born into a family with so much love to give her.

silimom said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 65
I very much remember Mr. and Mrs. Glassman from that episode and I felt they were both very sincere. They seemed very well off, I really don't think they needed the product placement.
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I thought that at first as well. However, I then found out after he started dating her that Hailey had been trying to get on reality television for a while, I believe before she met Jon, but I could be wrong on that.

I guess it just made me question if there wasn't an ulterior motive in them offering to do the tummy tuck, like trying to make connections for their daughter in some way. Not saying that was the case, it was just my feeling at the time.

I did find this article about it.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/2009/07/15/jons-new-girlfriend-tried-out-for-bad-girls-club-on-oxygen-wants-to-get-famous/

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Hook em me too, I don't even think that was the actual series yet that was one of there first two hour long specials where they checked in with the family (shoulda kept it that way.)

I was like a sheeple back then. I was also thinking well gosh that's awfully rude and selfish to ask for another major freebie like that but hey, she has eight kids! Lol.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

he was not officially divorced at the time

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This is a majorly important point that is rarely addressed by the other side if ever.

By law, stealing is not stealing when you're married (generally--there's exceptions.) Unless the divorce was final, which it was not, or unless the judge had already designated that computer Kate's, there is no reason Jon can't march right over there and take the whole computer if he wanted to. It would be for a judge later to sort out who gets the family computer if there is a dispute. Just like Kate was free to access Jon's things if they were acquired during the marriage, it goes both ways. Kate never explains in her brief why a husband is not allowed to access the family computer and take what he wants from it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I then found out after he started dating her that Hailey had been trying to get on reality television for a while, I believe before she met Jon, but I could be wrong on that.

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Yes I remember that too but that's Hailey. She seems very immature and very much a spoiled fame whore. She also tends to run her mouth and get in way over her head, and I think she is a liar. She is not 16 anymore, at her age to be messing around with such big whoppers of lies that you are even, what I think anyway, fabricating texts, is concerning at the very least and over the top immature.

She also seems to think that if she just ignores her role in the lawsuit (i.e. not returning important phone calls), it will go away. That is an incredibly immature way to handle an adult problem that she helped to create. She started a fire and now is running away. That's not how adults behave.

Her parents are quite a bit older and I wasn't getting the same sort of "fame whore" vibe. Besides if they supported Hailey gunning to get on T.V. why didn't they make sure she was standing right there during the surgery episode? She wasn't even in that episode at all.

I have a feeling Hailey has been trying for them and I also have a feeling they don't share the same goals. For them to say they were at the point of cutting her off if she kept talking to the Gosselins, that could mean financially and perhaps even MORE, says a lot about where they stand with this child and her choices.

It's also possible they wanted to "try out" the T.V. world that Hailey wanted to be a part of so badly. Since we never saw them on T.V. again perhaps they decided they didn't like it.

Tucker's Mom said...

Yes I remember that too but that's Hailey. She seems very immature and very much a spoiled fame whore. She also tends to run her mouth and get in way over her head, and I think she is a liar. She is not 16 anymore, at her age to be messing around with such big whoppers of lies that you are even, what I think anyway, fabricating texts, is concerning at the very least and over the top immature.
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I've always wondered if Hailey's claim that he loaned Jon 200K was true. She was insisting that Jon give her back the money or she'd sue him. She had a lawyer and everything.

NJGal51 said...

@MiloandJack: LOL..No battle of cute pics 4 @Kateplusmy8 We R just folks who enjoy the gift of God's wonderful creation! He gives us daily reasons2smile!
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Seriously Milo? Aren't you afraid that you might be struck by lightning for statements like that? You and the others tweet the pictures merely to get an acknowledgement from TFW. Nothing more, nothing less.

As we come to the end of Veteran's Day I see that TFW hasn't mentioned it at all.

Again Layla, from a military wife to a military mom, prayers for a speedy and full recovery to your son.

Mel said...

I always thought that Hailey's first exposure to reality tv up close and personal was with J&K. Before that it was probably the fantasy that some teenage girls have but don't have the opportunity to act upon.

She, at an impressionable age and probably spoiled, saw J&K getting all this stuff just handed to them, and getting paid big bucks to be on teevee besides, and off she went down the fame whore path.

When Jon came to them for help when he was divorcing, voila! here was her chance to cash in, and she starts dating Jon. Maybe TFW wasn't all that nice to Jon during their stay at the Glassman's house, and Hailey felt sorry for him.

I bet her parents were horrified when she started dating an older man like that, one who was still married besides, AND somebody whose wife they knew.
They seem like they might have fairly traditional values.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Tucker, I've noticed with Hailey she couldn't be more full of hot air. Have you noticed she always gets right up to the CUSP of a lawsuit but never pulls the trigger? I think she likes to threaten and play games and likes the power trip of that, but deep down would never pull the trigger because she knows how full of it she is. She did the same M.O. with Kate. Pushed her all the way up to the point where Kate actually sued, and when Kate actually does it, Hailey is running for the hills completely MIA. I think this might have been a good lesson for her. That may be one of the few goods that came out of Kate's suit. Hailey learned not to mess around or they might actually do what they say.

....Layla, your family is the heart of America.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I bet her parents were horrified when she started dating an older man like that, one who was still married besides, AND somebody whose wife they knew.
They seem like they might have fairly traditional values.

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I bet my bottom dollar they were horrified even if they liked Jon. I think that was the beginning of their problems with Hailey. Quite frankly they probably should have cut her off long before this thing with Kate happened recently. It never should have gotten to this point. This is one of those "where did we go wrong" things. I feel bad for them and I hope their family can move on together.

Anonymous said...

Admin,
I wanted to point to Kates' fans, that obviously read here, that Jon and Robert have nothing to prove in a court of law. Kate and her attorney have the burden to prove their claim. Simply put Jon and Robert have no burden to prove they are innocent, only the plaintiff to prove guilt. Since this is a civil suit not a criminal suit the burden of proof is lower. One of the biggest fans of Kate suggested that if Jon and Robert were found guilty, then criminal charges would be brought, simply bullcrap in my opinion. We did see the opposite in the OJ case where not enough evidence was present to convict him criminally. However under the lesser burden in civil court the Goldman family won the case against OJ.
My question is since this is civil suit can Kate and the initial TLC film crew be called to testify? How would the confidentiality agreement affect calling witnesses. Also can you "plead the fifth" in a civil case?

Unknown said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 78
''Tucker, I've noticed with Hailey she couldn't be more full of hot air. Have you noticed she always gets right up to the CUSP of a lawsuit but never pulls the trigger?''
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I was reading Shawn Tuma's twitter, and found one thing VERY interesting. He re-tweeted a comment by Kristin Campbell titled ''It's Not Social Media -- it's Evidence''. The article was about car insurance, but still...it gave me something to think about, since we're discussing Hailey and her 'texts - evidence'!

silimom said...

Someone mentioned the episode when the kids go back to the NICU. I ended up watching the wrong episode (I think) where Jon and Kate end up taking them back to a NICU reunion where the kids got to ride ponies and see a fire truck, etc. They were two at the time and Jon & Kate were so excited that they got to say "I have two 6 year olds and six 2 year olds". It must have been first season.

You know, I could see why I liked the show at the time. Yes, Kate was a pill but she and Jon still seemed like a team, despite their arguing. There was a shot of them sitting on the bed, talking with their producer at the time (can't remember her name) while folding laundry and it did seem like they were really just filming their lives. I think maybe that's it, in the first season it felt more like a documentary and you could play off the bickering between Kate and Jon as sleep deprivation and the stress of raising 8 small kids. Kate really blew it. She was relatable at that point.

The second part of the episode was Jon and Kate taking the girls to American Girl. Kate spoke about how she wondered if she'd ever get to take her other three little girls to American Girl someday. Fast forward to the sextuplets at six years old, going to New York, on TLC's dime, with Kate in her short shorts and high heels, and all I can say is what a difference. So sad that no one seemed to remember that wish. (Was there an episode where the took the little girls to American Girl? I can't remember if there was.)

The Kate taking her twin daughters to American Girl I could relate to. The Kate wandering New York in a heat wave with her high heel shoes, white shorts and her black blouse with no bra, not so much. It only took 3 years between the two and it's just fascinating to me that a person could change that much. Yes, I know the response to that is what we saw on Kate plus 8 was the true Kate and she really hadn't changed at all, but I have to disagree. I think the show really changed her in many ways and obviously not for the better, and that's why it's so pitiful to watch her now, grasping on to any publicity she can get and clinging to a dream of tv stardom that isn't likely to happen again, although I'll never say never. It really is just sad.

For example, I think when the show started, Kate saw a chance to be like her friend, Beth Carson - financial security, nice house, kids going to a private school, regular vacations to the beach in the summer (with a beach house rental to boot) or on ski trips, regular trips to New York, nice cars, hired help, etc. A solid, upper middle class lifestyle similar to Beth's family or the Glassman's. The one she had coveted when she tried to become a doctor's wife via her nursing program.

But suddenly it wasn't enough. Now she had to have a better house then Beth, more help, fancier trips, a personal attendant who was easy on the eyes and more assertive then her husband (aka Steve), designer clothes and hair, and above all else attention, attention, attention.

I guess it's just that I get so caught up in the minutia of what she's become, I lose sight of the person who started this all and how truly ordinary she really was. I apologize for rambling on. I'm just trying to process what I saw in that early episode vs. what I saw in the later episode. Kate as she is now is so much easier to dismiss as a fame whore.

Craziness said...

Just a DWTS update on Tony Dovolani since I know he has some fans in here::

He's in the top five on DWTS now, he has a good chance of winning this.

LifeinOH said...

Call Me Crazy said... 42
"I may be disabled now, but I won't let it define me."

Layla - Your son's story and words are inspiring. Please tell him "thank you" for his service and sacrifice. I wish him and your family all the best.

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Sending much respect and many good wishes to your son Layla. He is a man of character and determination. Wish him all the best for us. I suspect he may be quite a bit like you.

tabloid garbage said...

For them to say they were at the point of cutting her off if she kept talking to the Gosselins, that could mean financially and perhaps even MORE, says a lot about where they stand with this child and her choices.

It's also possible they wanted to "try out" the T.V. world that Hailey wanted to be a part of so badly.


It's also possible Hailey lied in that email. I didn't realize RO was a reputable fact checking source.

Vanessa said...

Seriously Milo? Aren't you afraid that you might be struck by lightning for statements like that? You and the others tweet the pictures merely to get an acknowledgement from TFW. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Thou shalt not worship false gods comes to mind



I think that was the beginning of their problems with Hailey.
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I'm thinking it was just one more of their problems with her. I have a feeling she's been giving them gray hairs for sometime now.

Vanessa said...

Was reading the comment section on the link Hoffman posted.
This one made me chuckle

"Oh, and I despise Kate and wish she would go away. The fact that you type “i hate kate gosselin” into google and come back with close to half a million hits should tell her and her promoters something. "

She is nuts claiming Jon and Robert are behind the "hate" blogs etc.
Jon was hated and mentioned just as much as she was! Going on 4-5 yrs ago!!

Vanessa said...

Going on 4-5 yrs ago!!

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I stand corrected- NINE years ago

Vanessa said...

"At this point, I can't go back," she said. "Let's face it - being a nurse, a single mom of eight kids, I would not be able to provide for them in any way shape or form."

She said the show "has become our primary income and for that I am very grateful." The curse of being on the show "is all the negativity out there."

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First off she says she couldn't provide for them "IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM" working as a nurse??!! No, you're right, because there would be nothing left to "provide" after you've spent every dime on yourself.

Secondly she admits that there is a trade off for her having the show-NEGATIVITY. YOU wanted to be public, YOU wanted to have a show, YOU craved fame. You seemed to accept it back then, what changed???

Vanessa said...

And that pic of her gaping pie hole staring at the cop? She most definitely has had lipo on her calves.

Tucker's Mom said...

I guess it's just that I get so caught up in the minutia of what she's become, I lose sight of the person who started this all and how truly ordinary she really was. I apologize for rambling on. I'm just trying to process what I saw in that early episode vs. what I saw in the later episode. Kate as she is now is so much easier to dismiss as a fame whore.
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I don't think it's just you! In Kate's journals, early on at least, she praised Jon over and over, marveling at how lucky she was to have a husband who rolled up his sleeves and got right in there. Changing diapers, showering and showing lots and lots of love to his kids.
I think fame and money changed both Kate and Jon, but while Kate has a "never look back" attitude, Jon seems to have checked himself, maybe took a good look in the mirror and didn't like what he saw.
When you think about it, maybe Jon doesn't really have a choice. Kate is NEVER going back to the rural PA house frau she initially was. Kate's sights are set on stardom and TV, and she's dug her gladiator heels in... deep.
I think Jon knows the higher purpose for him now is being the kids' rock and soft place to fall. The kids need normalcy and Jon is providing it as best he can. I hope he stays the course. Having both parents chase fame is no way to grow up.

Tucker's Mom said...

I bet my bottom dollar they were horrified even if they liked Jon. I think that was the beginning of their problems with Hailey. Quite frankly they probably should have cut her off long before this thing with Kate happened recently. It never should have gotten to this point. This is one of those "where did we go wrong" things. I feel bad for them and I hope their family can move on together.
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I wonder if Dr. and Mrs. Glassman feel a bit responsible for becoming involved with Jon and Kate. I think their intentions were good, but they sort of let the fox into the hen house when it comes to Jon. Back then, at least, when his head obviously was not screwed on straight.
With Jon being 10 or so years Hailey's senior, I bet it never occurred to them that a romance would bloom.

JoyinVirginia said...

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handinhand said...

Nope, Kate doesn't care what this is doing to Hailey, her family including her parents whom she was supposedly close with.
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No surprise there.
Kate cut her own parents off and never looked back

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


It's also possible Hailey lied in that email. I didn't realize RO was a reputable fact checking source.

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Of course that's possible. I never said it wasn't, and I never said that RO was reputable, although I don't think they would make up an email. I'm not sure it's necessary to go track down her parents and ask if it's true they want to cut her off. That's not essential to the article, the point was that Hailey was backing out. In fact I said that I believe Hailey has told some "whoppers" of lies. They're ALL possibilities, we were simply discussing what might be going on IF what she said was true about her parents, that's all.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Funny, but you don't seem to have the same expectation of Jon. By your logic, shouldn't his lawyer stop contacting Hailey and let her move on?

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Apples and oranges. That's the defense side. Kate was the one to bring Hailey into the picture, and if Kate is going to continue to insist on Hailey being a player in this and being involved, then Jon's lawyer would be breaching his ethical duty to put up the best defense he can if he did not pursue her.

Completely apples and oranges.

Now, if Jon started this lawsuit and was going after Hailey I would say yes they need to let her move on. But he didn't start it. He is DEFENDING it and has to defend against each and every peace of info that Kate is chasing down. Unfortunately that may mean chasing down people who should be allowed to move on, but that's all on Kate. She started the lawsuit and she has the power to stop it at any time so that everyone can move on. Until then, the defense will defend. The ball is in her court.

Tucker's Mom said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 96

Funny, but you don't seem to have the same expectation of Jon. By your logic, shouldn't his lawyer stop contacting Hailey and let her move on?

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Apples and oranges. That's the defense side. Kate was the one to bring Hailey into the picture, and if Kate is going to continue to insist on Hailey being a player in this and being involved, then Jon's lawyer would be breaching his ethical duty to put up the best defense he can if he did not pursue her.
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Most people who are in or come into Kate's gravitational force are hurt in some way. Her siblings, family and close friends have all been hurt.
Hailey could not have been any clearer about not wanting to be involved, but Kate went forward with the lawsuit which has apparently drawn Hailey back into the Vortex of Suck.
What boggles my mind is-- how do all these people who wind up in Kate's path of destruction not get ruined financially? I can't imagine Hailey and Kevin/Jodi and Sylvia LaFair and maybe even the Carsons haven't spent some coin on lawyers and representation.
What a price to pay for good intentions.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Piece not peace!

If only Kate would let people sucked into the vortex finally have some peace.

TLC stinks said...

Didn't Hailey approach Kate FIRST that she had incriminating copies of text messages from Jon? Seems to me Hailey started it so I have no sympathy that she should be cut a pass from anyone. Kate is not to be trifled with and now Hailey will pay a price. I have no idea what her motivation was in contacting Kate but there had to be a reason.

I guess Dr. Glassman will have to hire an attorney for his daughter.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

First off she says she couldn't provide for them "IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM" working as a nurse??!!

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How insulting to those who support large families on a nurse's salary or similar salary. They are not "providing" in any way shape or form? STFU.

And with her training and her geographic location, she could make even more than the average nurse. She could have worked as an in-home baby nurse, or nurse for a child or adult with special needs, for a wealthy family in some of the wealthier Philly suburbs. You can make 120,000-160 a year doing that. Plenty for eight kids. If you live near wealthy neighborhoods and have any skill that translates to private, in home services, the world is your oyster.

Vanessa said...

I don't think it's just you! In Kate's journals, early on at least, she praised Jon over and over, marveling at how lucky she was to have a husband who rolled up his sleeves and got right in there. Changing diapers, showering and showing lots and lots of love to his kids.
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I didn't get to download the book, but didn't she also berate him early on in the journals? Not trying to negate your post, I fell for her bull*hit too.
But her journals probably reflected on how good (or bad!) of a day she was having. She can play the loving part quite easily, if all goes according to her pre-conceived idea of how things should go. How many times did we see her flip like a switch, one minute scowling yelling, the next hugging or gushing. She was thrilled with Jon when he was her slave, her minion, her "yes m'am" man. And correct me about her journals, but did she praise him in one sentence then backhandedly insult him in the next? That's a narcissist for you.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I can't remember who contacted the other first. I think it could have been Hailey. She is responsible for that, she's a nut for dipping a toe back into the water. But doesn't she know those who dip toes drown?

She was wrong to get involved again. But, when she said I want to stop, that should have been respected. They are both at fault.

And SHAME, SHAME, SHAME on Kate for using information she knows that Jon did NOT cheat as a BARGAIN CHIP. Wouldn't you want to set the record straight of your own accord for Hailey, Jon, and most of all your CHILDREN? She has no conscience. Information that should be disclosed because that's just what moral people would do is "saved" in case she needs to "use" it later. SICK.

TLC stinks said...

I have always suspected there was some legal agreement that paid off Beth Carson for stepping back from the book and keeping her silence. It never made any sense for a co-author to be left out as the book climbed the best seller list while Kate claimed all the glory. Meanwhile Kate seeks sympathy because she says everyone leaves her. I think most people have wised up who the problem is.

Insert Creative Username Here said...

silimom said... 82

I agree silimom. I think TFW was always a narcissist, but she wasn't always the kind of attention she was getting when the show was on. She was relatively tame, and although seemed oblivious to how she was acting, she at least could act remorseful a couple of times when Jon pointed out her rudeness.

But that TFW is long gone. I think the show + freebies + paparazzi + fans fed the narcissism in her and turned her into the beast she is now.

Vanessa said...

First off she says she couldn't provide for them "IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM" working as a nurse??!!

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How insulting to those who support large families on a nurse's salary or similar salary. They are not "providing" in any way shape or form? STFU.
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No kidding! Her earning potential was pretty high. She could have earned more than Jon at the time. A lot of the posters on the links Hoffman provided had a lot to say about the McCaughey septuplets. Many of us here have used them as the perfect example of how it can be done. You just freaking do it!! WITHOUT exploiting your children.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


However, the crux of the problem lies with Kate. She has steadfastly refused to acknowledge that her fame has been stuck at 14 minutes and 45 seconds for the last 2 years. She. will. not. go. away. In order to stay relevant, she reduced herself to fabricating controversy with Jon, no easy feat because for the most part, the man had taken himself out of the public eye.

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I agree with this. Blaming the media is convenient but it's not always fair. The media can and should ignore the inconsequential things, and they have. For instance we don't see any more "Kate Gosselin pumps gas in high heels" photos these days.

But when she files a lawsuit in federal court that puts forth some will though interesting computer fraud allegations and when the best attorneys in the country get on board, how can the media/blogs/anyone who reports the news sit on their hands and pretend it's not happening? It's newsworthy in certain circles and they're hands are tied, they have to report it. So as you said, that really goes back to Kate on doing whatever she can to stir the pot and force the media's hand into reporting things they cannot ignore. It's just these days she has to do even more wild and crazy things to get a story than she used to.

JoyinVirginia said...

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Check out the details of our virtual party location at www.Nashville.gov/Parks-and-Recreation/Parthenon.aspx

Tucker's Mom said...

TLC stinks said... 99
Didn't Hailey approach Kate FIRST that she had incriminating copies of text messages from Jon? Seems to me Hailey started it so I have no sympathy that she should be cut a pass from anyone
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Hmm... maybe it was Hailey, but I don't know why she'd contact Kate out of the blue. Could be, though. What's clear is Hailey's reluctance to get involved with a lawsuit.
Giving Kate these supposed emails? Yes, she apparently did. That I don't think is unclear.
There was so much crap swirling around Jon and Hailey back then. There was the alleged 200K loan from Hailey to Jon, Jon's apartment being trashed, some sort of crib notes re: Kate... and who can forget Hailey's bizarre cover of Steppin Out magazine, where she spoke at length about Jon's, ahem, shortcomings.
Sorry for the bad pun ;-)

Tucker's Mom said...

I didn't get to download the book, but didn't she also berate him early on in the journals? Not trying to negate your post, I fell for her bull*hit too.
But her journals probably reflected on how good (or bad!) of a day she was having
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That's a really good way to put it.
Kate praised Jon a whole lot, but also complained about his being laid back, which she translated to lazy and uncooperative.
Of course there was LunchGate, when Jon was intrepid enough to clandestinely join coworkers for a lunch in Philadelphia, which as we all know, is a sign of The Rapture.

Anonymous said...

Gosh talk about hurting so many good people because she is so unhappy in her own life. What does it take to shut someone like this down for good? If 2 of the best attorneys in the country can't do it, and the public opinion can't do it, and her kids can't get her to stop, what in the world is next for this woman in her, I think I've been scorned and burned and everyone is going to pay tantrums?

Should leave the Dr. G and his family alone. They have a business to run, and they were so good to her. So were the other Dr and his family who were good to her, and who sold her the house. Hurt them too.

people like her are maybe part of the reason Dr's and Dentists and other health care providers can not offer services for extended discounts or free, as it always comes back to bite them. They are discouraged by the Medical Board and Medical Schools because of people like this woman who ruin it for others down the road. She knows this as she went to nursing school. She really needs to stop.

Never Seen Anything Like This

CS said...

Kate Gosselin Cookbook Recipes Were Recycled, Kate Lied And Cheated?
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2013/kate-gosselin-cookbook-recipes-were-recycled-lied-cheated-1112/

Anonymous said...

Maybe all of the owners from all of the major cable and tv networks could sign a written letter to her agent, explaining that they are the ones who don't want her on TV, and all of these other people are innocent and have no say in the decision. Is that what it is going to take?

mamaK said...

http://www.figure8films.tv/site/shows/jk8-s3.html

The first episode on this list is "Cutting Room Floor". This shows Kate, when she got her tummy tuck, she also got lipo on her thighs. This episode, however is not available on YouTube. (wonder why.)
But, it is plastic surgery that she has had and denies. Even though it was televised.

capecodmama said...

OT...We're having our first snowfall of the season today. It looks so pretty.

Went to RH site and can't believe how much TFW has changed her looks. She was so fresh faced and pretty (ok not the one with the police officer) back in the day. She has destroyed her looks.

Jane said...

http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com

New post from Robert. He's on a roll!

Jane said...

Also, wasn't there a motion to dismiss on the table for today?

Tucker's Mom said...

mamaK said... 113
http://www.figure8films.tv/site/shows/jk8-s3.html

The first episode on this list is "Cutting Room Floor". This shows Kate, when she got her tummy tuck, she also got lipo on her thighs. This episode, however is not available on YouTube. (wonder why.)
But, it is plastic surgery that she has had and denies. Even though it was televised.
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Wow.
OK, I'm not surprised because I believe Kate's had multiple cosmetic procedures and surgeries. But if this was filmed, did she actually thing it would never see the light of day?

Tucker's Mom said...

Where is the footage of the thigh lipo?

localyocul said...

Jane said... 116
Also, wasn't there a motion to dismiss on the table for today?

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I posted about it yesterday, that I saw that the extension to respond was up today. Someone posted they thought it was the 22nd but I requoted a post showing it was today and nobody responded so I dunno, I'm pretty sure today is the date they stipulated as a deadline for response to motion to dismiss.

localyocul said...

Jane said... 115
http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com

New post from Robert. He's on a roll!

(((((((((

That's weird; he says 2:17 but I don't see a clip? Maybe it's my computer..

JR said...

THIGH LIPO FOOTAGE!!?? YUUUCCCCCKKKK!!! Almost typed an "F" instead of a "Y"....HA

boo said...

According to court docket, the parties agreed to allow until 11/19 to file a response to the motion. I wouldn't read anything into this. Standard professional courtesy.

Jane said...

Thanks for the update, Boo!

CarolJB said...

There was a stipulation agreeing to extend the time to answer the motion to dismiss to November 19, 2013.

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

That's weird; he says 2:17 but I don't see a clip? Maybe it's my computer..

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Mine, too, local!

Joy -- won't it be too cold in Nashville tonight (snow showers?) for muumuus and crocs? Are fur-lined crocs permitted, and sweaters under the muumuus?

getofftwitter said...

Lala: I can only see of Kate with a disable child: Kate would be justifing having a nurse, 24/7, from the State(paid by the State), never actually interacting with the kid, only for show, other than show, the kid would be out of her sight. Geez, look how she had a cow about the one boy tup with glasses, she treats him like he is a defective child. The thoughts about, would only be from the top of the head, could not imagine Kate with a disable child, she would freak and be ashame of the kid. Betty Hayes was/is a wonderful mom. Besides worrying about Rebecca and the other kids, her husband is a cop or sheriff, a big worry, about the danger in that job. What Betty Hayes handles on a daily basis is something Kate would never be able to handle.

capecodmama said...

localyocul...120 It's not your computer. I don't have a clip of anything either.

Dmasy said...

Fleecing....no wardrobe problem. Just get colorful knee socks and wear them with your Crocs. Socks should just reach the hemline of the muumuu. A matching stretchy headband should just complete the outfit!

Joy will know who her guests are.

Tucker's Mom said...

Dmasy said... 127
Fleecing....no wardrobe problem. Just get colorful knee socks and wear them with your Crocs. Socks should just reach the hemline of the muumuu. A matching stretchy headband should just complete the outfit!

Joy will know who her guests are.
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I'm going to have to go with Uggs for a cold night!
Those things are like furnaces on your feet!

Unknown said...

Yesterday, I mentioned that Shawn Tuma has re-tweeted an article on his twitter that I thought was very interesting. I believe that his interest could very well be a hint that Miss Hailey has gotten herself in one fine mess!

I see that I didn't provide a link to the ''It's Not Social Media -- It's Evidence.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2013/10/22/it-not-social-media-it-evidence/

As time goes on, I believe that more and more people are going to be shocked to find that times have changed, and people are going to find that the things you say on social media will haunt you for years, if not the rest of your life. The 'olden days' of being able to say outrageous things, tell outrageous lies, make fake emails or texts with carefree abandon are over!

sunny said...

boo said... 122
According to court docket, the parties agreed to allow until 11/19 to file a response to the motion. I wouldn't read anything into this. Standard professional courtesy.
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I agree that the attorneys for Jon and Robert are being courteous in allowing yet another extension.

In my opinion though, I don't think Razzy has any answer to it. Hell, after Shawn's 1st motion to dismiss Razzy dropped half the case. In the 2nd motion, Shawn meticulously laid out case after case which completely debunked every one of Kate's remaining sorry claims. He also pointed out that her claiming Jon did something does not constitute proof. Where is the EVIDENCE and PROOF????? I would like A LINK PLEASE!!!!!! lol. She has no standing. Robert and Jon were never supposed to defend this. Kate filed this in hopes that Robert and Jon would not respond and she would win by default like BV did. Now, she is probably at odds with Raz who probably just wants to dump it. I predict extension after extension until the judge refuses. No nvr means no 2 Kate.

I am eternally grateful for our friends who have access to Pacer. This spares us from lies and tall tales from TFWs camp and her whack pack. Pacer doesn't lie or have any dog in this fight. It's just the facts.

sunny said...

Dmasy said... 128
Fleecing....no wardrobe problem. Just get colorful knee socks and wear them with your Crocs. Socks should just reach the hemline of the muumuu. A matching stretchy headband should just complete the outfit!

Joy will know who her guests are.
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Bummer.... I don't have a headband but I do have some of those big scrunchies from the 90s stashed away somewhere? Will those be an acceptable nerdy headwear substitution? ;)

sunny said...

Remona Blue said... 130
Yesterday, I mentioned that Shawn Tuma has re-tweeted an article on his twitter that I thought was very interesting. I believe that his interest could very well be a hint that Miss Hailey has gotten herself in one fine mess!

I see that I didn't provide a link to the ''It's Not Social Media -- It's Evidence.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2013/10/22/it-not-social-media-it-evidence/
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I can't believe how often I read in the paper about people who were caught because they bragged about a crime on Facebook. Recently here, a woman hit a teenager's car and took off. Police were stumped, as no one got her plate number and only a fleeting description of her car. A week later, the woman posted pictures of the wreck (from the newspaper!) on her Facebook and bragged that she was the driver!!!!

Huff Post had a recent article stating studies show that regular Facebook readers are more unhappy when they are done reading FB than when they logged on. FB has become the yearly Christmas braggy newsletter, only it's not once a year, it's every day. FB is a godsend for narcissists who live only for making sure everyone else know how perfect they are- and what an inadequate slug you are.

Tucker's Mom said...

I am eternally grateful for our friends who have access to Pacer. This spares us from lies and tall tales from TFWs camp and her whack pack. Pacer doesn't lie or have any dog in this fight. It's just the facts.
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I am grateful too. I've been learning a lot! For instance, I would have assumed that filing for an extension was just a stalling tactic and Tuma would push back against it, but it could work both ways. Sometimes, people simply need more time and do unto others...

Millicent said...

Remona - I'm amazed at the information people share on their FB pages and elsewhere on the internet. The worst are those who videotape a violence act they commit on another, then they share it with their friends. Even if their FB page is private, that doesn't mean their friends won't share it with others and sooner or later, it becomes public. That's how some sexual assault crimes have been proven, by the perpetrators themselves.

But onto the more basic things that are said online, I have always tried to be careful of my words, lest they come back to haunt me. I know there have been times when I've posted a comment on a news article or elsewhere, while upset, that might have been politically incorrect, or contained foul language. But hopefully I've never said anything actionable. And I do try to never post anything I'd be ashamed if my family were to read.

Anonymous said...

. He also pointed out that her claiming Jon did something does not constitute proof. Where is the EVIDENCE and PROOF????? I would like A LINK PLEASE!!!!!!

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That is what a trial is for. They are not required to prove their case up front.

Millicent said...

capecodmama said... 114
Went to RH site and can't believe how much TFW has changed her looks. She was so fresh faced and pretty (ok not the one with the police officer) back in the day. She has destroyed her looks.
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I agree. I never thought she was "breathtakingly beautiful," but she really was quite pretty in a fresh, fairly natural way. Her skin looked good, her hair was healthy, and she looked like an attractive 30-something mom. Then she went and ruined her natural good looks and the damage done to her skin is not repairable.

Amy2 said...

I appreciate all the legal insight the people on this blog provide. I have no legal background at all, yet, I am able to follow the lawsuit thanks to you all.

Vanessa said...

she also got lipo on her thighs
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and on her love handles and back, IIRC

reader said...

The stipulation to "Enlarge Time To Respond" through November 19, 2013 was entered in the docket today, 11/12/2013. However it is not (yet) ordered. It has not yet been signed by Honorable Jeffrey Schmehl.

JoyinVirginia said...

Craziness, thanks for the mention of saint Tony Dovolani of the Ballroom, so glad he has a great partner this season!
Dmasy, you are the go to gal for fashion advice for virtual party goers!
Tuckers Mom, I think I will be wearing insulated socks with my green crocs tonight. Uggs sound perfect also!
Fleecing, sweaters are very appropriate as long as they are ugly Christmas sweaters! If Walmart can start Black Friday sales at 6 pm Thanksgiving, we can start wearing ugly Christmas sweaters now!
Sunny, scrunchy headbands our pony tail scrunchy s sound great!
I have already pulled out candy canes from last Christmas from the freezer, for appetizers. I found a really old box of crackers in back of the cabinet, and out of date cream creese in back of the fridge drawer, so we have appetizers. The turkey from January is still defrosting, I will throw it in the oven soon. And of course stuffing from Stove top, and a can of the cranberry sauce that you can slice along the lines on the side from the can!
Please bring any old thing from back of your pantry or fridge to share.

Tucker's Mom said...

Vanessa said... 139
she also got lipo on her thighs
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and on her love handles and back, IIRC
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Was this shown on the plastic surgery tummy tuck episode? I only recall watching it briefly so I don't recall that. If it was, how can she say she only got a tummy tuck.
I don't begrudge any woman plastic surgery post pregnancy. It's just a considerable risk when you have so many babies at home, yet whine about falling while ice skating.
Getting lipo, boob job and a tummy tuck sounds pretty darn scary to me.

getofftwitter said...

Lala: I also, want to add, Kate would for show, exploit that handicap child, oh poor single mom with handicap child, even write a book, to make a buck off the kid, then ignore the kid. If kate had a handicap child, she very lucky she does not. Notice Betty Hayes, probably could write a book on dealing with 10 kids, and dealing with a husband in a dangerous job and coping with a handicap child, but she didn't. I think she said several time on their show, they do not center life around Rebecca, but, they try not to exclude her from things, if they can. I liked Table for 12. Very down to earth, normal real.

reader said...

My guess the stipulation for more time will in fact be "ordered" but I would love to be wrong.

Vanessa said...

Was this shown on the plastic surgery tummy tuck episode? I only recall watching it briefly so I don't recall that. If it was, how can she say she only got a tummy tuck.
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I think it was a "lost footage" episode, not on the original one. This time they showed the surgery, or as much as you could without it being very very graphic. But I know I saw the fat getting sucked out of her sides and back, that's for sure!!

Somewhere In Time said...

Craziness, thanks for the mention of saint Tony Dovolani of the Ballroom, so glad he has a great partner this season!

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It's anyone's game at this point. It wouldn't surprise me if Bill would walk away with it. Yes, he's likeable, entertaining, humble and a nice guy, but he can't dance worth a darn. I don't understand why they even have judges -- not after seeing what happened last night. The show has become a joke. They better rethink the whole voting/scoring thing they have going on. I'm done watching.

Joy, cranberry sauce in the can is the best. It's what we grew up with. Love that stuff!

localyocul said...

reader said... 140
The stipulation to "Enlarge Time To Respond" through November 19, 2013 was entered in the docket today, 11/12/2013. However it is not (yet) ordered. It has not yet been signed by Honorable Jeffrey Schmehl

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Thanks, I was going t ask when it was filed. So the posts I saw about the stipulation extending it to today were valid, and the STILL haven't been able to meet the deadline. Oy Vey.

JoyinVirginia said...

I have borrowed the time traveling phone both from Bill and Ted, as seen in their Excellent Adventure, to find some virtual party guests. First stop, ancient Greece! At the parthenon, they will feel right at home! First up, Pythagoras, who may our may not have done anything with mathematics. The Pythagorean Theorem is credited to him, but the Babylonians knew about it long before his lifetime. Pythagoras just had better PR. Aristotle said in Metaphysics that Pythagoras followers ” who were the first to take up mathematics, not only advanced this subject, but saturated with it, they fancied that the principles of mathematics were the principles of all things.” Sounds interesting!
Democritus.is another Greek philosopher who studied mathematics. He is also known add the ” laughing philosopher” because he was amused by ridiculous human behavior. He will be quite amused by the cautionary take of TFMJG. From Jonathan Barnes book Early Greek Philosophers we know Democritus would not approve of TFMJG. He believed wealth should not be hoarded, and making money from wrongdoing is the ” worst of all things.” He will fit right in with our party! if I can foot everyone in the phone booth, I will pick up Aristotle, Euclid, and Archimedes too!

silimom said...

Somewhere, I have to agree. I found it really amazing that Bill stayed and Elizabeth left. I didn't realize he was so popular. And that's what it seems to boil down to towards the end - a popularity contest.

JoyinVirginia said...

As we gather guests using the time traveling phone booth, I have to expires my appreciation to the author of the Math Tourist blog at mathtourist.Blogspot.com who is Ivars Peterson. He has written a book titled The Math Tourist that gives a tour through history.

TLC stinks said...

She did indeed get lipo. I remember seeing it, and it was probably the tummy tuck episode. I know in Robert's book there is reference to her seeing her doc in NY to fix her "lumpy" thighs, and that was after the tummy tuck, so I bet she had it done a second time.

reader said...

Localyocul, yes, previously it was ordered plaintiff had through today to file a response to defendants' motion to dismiss. I do wonder why they are asking for a week at a time.

TLC stinks said...

I looked back and Hailey first contacted Kate via Twitter asking for a recipe. I believe that started their correspondence and somewhere along the way she offered up to Kate that she had those printed out text messages. Not sure if Kate was already accusing Jon and Robert of conspiracy and theft, but Hailey most certainly did volunteer her info to Kate and said she would gladly testify. Then suddenly her song changed probably because her parents got wind of what she was doing. Not only that, but she was going to the tabloids trashing Jon and calling him a liar before the text messages were an issue.

Hoosier Girl said...

Regarding continued stipulations for time ...

Can anyone else see Razzy on the phone every day telling Kate he's got nothing left in way of response ... begging Kate to just drop the suit ... and Kate screeching that she will not?

I almost feel sorry for the guy ... almost. He just doesn't know how to help her ...

AuntieAnn said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 53

And we must not forget the many other countries whose soldiers helped win the wars for peace. May the reason for Veterans Day/Remembrance Day never be forgotten. 31

IIRC, the last living veteran from WWI died in England during the past
year. RIP.

Layla, thanks to your son and all who serve(d).

Then there is epic disrespect:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/brad-pitt-movie-sparks-fury-england-article-1.1513106

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Just catching up here and adding my gratitude to all who have served and are serving their countries and to honour the fallen. We will remember them.

Epic disrespect indeed.

Sorry to read they refused to hold off filming their movie for a couple of days, given that locals had appealed to them to reconsider shooting their movie on Remembrance Sunday. I guess Brad Pitt and the dollars he brings are more important?

Of course Sony Productions and Dave Ayer have apologised, after the fact. I give them both two thumbs down.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

reader said... 144
My guess the stipulation for more time will in fact be "ordered" but I would love to be wrong.
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What does that mean, "ordered?" Ordered versus what?

Insert Creative Username Here said...

I recently re-watched the Surviving Sextuplets show on YouTube and on the show that aired it looks like they showed the tummy tuck and the ask for a breast augmentation (which I hadn't originally remembered). No mention of lipo.

She wanted a breast augmentation because she wanted her pre-baby figure back and she thought her breasts had become flattened. The doctor looked at them and said that she was better off with a good bra than the post op and the pain that would come from actually doing an augmentation. I find it funny looking back now. She did look mildly upset about not getting it done, but she was laughing in the next shot, so it looks like she got over it.

I did a google search to try to find the cutting room floor episode or even a recap and nothing. The most I could find is a synopsis of what the episode was supposed to be about. Very weird.

Somewhere In Time said...

I looked back and Hailey first contacted Kate via Twitter asking for a recipe. I believe that started their correspondence and somewhere along the way she offered up to Kate that she had those printed out text messages.

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She contacted her on Twitter, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the two of them weren't corresponding via e-mail before that, or even in text messages. We just don't know.

Terri said...

I honestly believe that the reason for the extension for time to respond to the motion for dismissal is because her attorneys are trying desperately to convince Kate that this is going to be a losing battle. It must be hell for her to try to figure out a way to come out of this without looking like the vindictive ex-wife that she really is.

PatK said...

Regarding DWTS, I've been surprised at who's been voted off for several weeks now! Did you folks see the shot of the surprised looks on the Judges' faces last night? This has definitely been an unpredictable season.

Go, Tony and Leah!!

Roxie said...

Looks like Jon doesn't want to be a "private guy" any longer. What good can possibly come of this?

http://www.realitytea.com/2013/11/12/couples-therapy-cast-announced-taylor-armstrong-jon-gosselin-and-farrah-abraham/

Somewhere In Time said...

What does that mean, "ordered?" Ordered versus what?

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Ordered versus denied?

reader said...

Tweetle De, granted, okayed by the judge.

CarolJB said...

I honestly believe that the reason for the extension for time to respond to the motion for dismissal is because her attorneys are trying desperately to convince Kate that this is going to be a losing battle. It must be hell for her to try to figure out a way to come out of this without looking like the vindictive ex-wife that she really is.

It's quite common to ask for extensions of time in a federal court case. However, I can see Kate demanding that her lawyer write a response so that her case is not dismissed. Especially if she is paying him an hourly fee.

I've seen plenty of potential clients whom believe that they have a winning case worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. They may have a case, but it's worth a few thousand dollars. I turn down those cases because it's not worth it to have my clients calling me on an hourly basis demanding to know the status of their case and refusing all reasonable settlement offers. I don't want to go to trial on a case in which I can only expect a few thousand dollars.

I think the biggest problem with Kate's case is that Kate will simply refuse to settle and will reject all reasonable settlement offers. She'll want her big day in Court.

Hoosier Girl said...

Insert Creative Username Here said... 157
The doctor looked at them and said that she was better off with a good bra ...
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Ah ... that's why she calls her breast augmentation the "good bra" ... Dr. Glassman came up with it. I swear that woman isn't smart enough to have an original thought EVER.

NJGal51 said...

OK, I'm going to try to post this again. The first time that I tried a got a conflict message. Sorry if it posts twice

I'm happy that she of the crazy eyes went home. Her stare was nightmare inducing. It was very Rasputinesque IMO. I'm kind of enjoying the fact that the non-dancers seem to be staying while those with "experience" are sent packing. I've always thought that those with experience had an unfair advantage over those that really can't dance a lick. I will say however that Corbin blew me away last night with his jazz routine. Simply amazing. I also liked Tony and Leah and think that she's coming in to her own.

Somewhere In Time said...

"The cast will include: Taylor Armstrong & John Bluher, Jon Gosselin & Liz Janetta, Ghostface Killah & Kelsey Nykole, Whitney Mixter & Sara Bettencourt, And Farrah Abraham."

But how can that be? The sheeple insist that Jon has a new 20-year-old girlfriend and he's been flitting from one girlfriend to the next for the past few years.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Jon got a reality show??? Ohhh Kate will be SEETHING. I think the karma train just went full throttle. I'm glad someone is capable of doing something without the kids. And looks like he's still with Liz so that settles that. The poor sheeple will have to go on cute puppy photos overdrive.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Farrah's on it too??? A narcissist who rivals Kate? Oh you all are in for a treat. Can I get an amen?

Mel said...

Looks like Jon doesn't want to be a "private guy" any longer. What good can possibly come of this?

http://www.realitytea.com/2013/11/12/couples-therapy-cast-announced-taylor-armstrong-jon-gosselin-and-farrah-abraham/


I know he has to find a way to earn a better income, and TFW has pretty much ensured that he can't work in the field for which he was trained....but good grief!

Smh.

Dmasy said...

Roxie, I went to the link you provided.

Jon. No. I am so disappointed in him. Has anyone seen the show? From the list of "guests", I am guessing the dignity is not a part of the program.

PatK said...

I've never even heard of that show. But, whatever Jon feels he needs to do, I guess.

Sheep heads about to explode...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

No good will probably come of it other than money and the hysterical irony of Jon hardly trying and getting a reality show just like that while Kate's been begging pleading and clawing after one for two years. Oh sweet justice. She thrust him back into the public eye and he made lemonade out of lemons. That's how karma rolls.

Formerly Duped said...

Omg, that show sounds terrible,. I cannot stand Farrah A. Why does Jon need couples therapy with Liz? Ans isn't Jenn Berman a sex therapist? I recall she had a show with her sister, and they gave sex advice I think?

I think this would be bad for the kids' normalcy too.If this is true, I am disappointed in Jon as much as it's my business!

JR said...

OMG..Liz is going to be on reality tv ??? Kate must be spitting nails! I cannot believe the way the tables have turned...is that why the twitter silence..shes having her 19th nervous breakdown..

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Reality tv doesn't want you anymore, TFW. They will however take Jon.

JR said...

Isn't the Universe the BEST???!!!

Hoosier Girl said...

Roxie said... 161
Looks like Jon doesn't want to be a "private guy" any longer. What good can possibly come of this?

http://www.realitytea.com/2013/11/12/couples-therapy-cast-announced-taylor-armstrong-jon-gosselin-and-farrah-abraham/
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As long as the kids are left out of it, I don't care if Jon stays private or goes public.

I'm glad to see he's still with Liz. I bet they do have relationship challenges.

Besides all the normal problems that come when you both have kids - Imagine having to deal with Kate's venom just because you love Jon and those kids .. not being able to sit down and have a civil discussion ... having Kate roll up her window in your face ... having her call you out on Twitter. YIKES!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think you've officially lost it if you join a cast with FARRAH. Seriously, you won't believe this girl.

JR said...

I can't stop giggling ......

Hoosier Girl said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 176
Reality tv doesn't want you anymore, TFW. They will however take Jon.
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Here's that AMEN you were looking for :-)

Mel said...

Also pretty funny about Jon getting on this show, when rumor had it that TFW saw to it that he wasn't on DWTS. Haha.

Him being on DWTS would have been far less damaging to her, I would think, than this show is gonna be.

I can see him and Liz on the therapist's couch now. Talking about how the *only* problem they have is TFW and her antics/lack of cooperation, etc.

PatK said...

Kate will get herself a tv gig now, come hell or high water. Just watch.

Formerly Duped said...

, 'Dr. Jennifer Berman, is a urologist with whom she co-authored a book called "FOR WOMEN ONLY: A Revolutionary Guide for Reclaiming your Sex Life'

My mistake. Jenn Berman is another therapist. Jennifer and her sex therapist sister Laura are the ones who had the show and a sex toys line.

Somewhere In Time said...

I'm kind of enjoying the fact that the non-dancers seem to be staying while those with "experience" are sent packing. I've always thought that those with experience had an unfair advantage over those that really can't dance a lick.

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Then why put them on in the first place? Why should a contestant, who works hard and puts on a good show, be voted off because they have experience? That's not really fair to them, either. The whole format of the show needs serious revamping. If it's a popularity contest, fine, then call a spade a spade. It's not about being the best dancer...it's about who has the most fans. They either get contestants who all have experience, or contestants who all have little or no experience. At least level the playing field.

Roxie said...

Dmasy said... 171

I am guessing the dignity is not a part of the program.

November 12, 2013 at 1:46 PM
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I think you're right. No dignity on that program. I thought he didn't want to do reality TV again? Of course, he can change his mind, but now I question if he has one left. What could he be thinking to go on a program that will help you to publicly air your dirty laundry? Counseling is a wonderful thing when done in private.

Paula said...





Hey, as long as Jon keeps the kids out of the conversation....he does have 8 kids to support.


localyocul said...

Oh my. Farrah HAS a relationship? And so much for the sheep's claim that Liz and he broke up.

Hoosier Girl said...

I wonder how many times 'The Former Wife' will be invoked in therapy?! And as long as they don't mention her by name, I can't think of any way she can stop them. Can she?

We may find out all sorts of thinks TFW doesn't want out there ...

JoyinVirginia said...

AMEN! train wreck city here we come! Jon and Liz are going to be the normal couple.

Hoosier Girl said...

And my last thought ...

I hope Jon & Liz send WOS a "Thank You" card :-)

Jane said...

I may be i the minority when I say I'm not thrilled by this reality show gig for Jon. Well, maybe a little thrilled because it's one up on Kate. What happened to waiting tables, living a quiet life, maybe investing in the restaurant? I think this will be more fodder for the tabloids and, while hopefully the children won't be seen, for sure they'll be mentioned. They're part of his life and I believe Liz has children, too? So the kids will be in play.

I feel squeamish about this...and I've always been on Jon's side, and of course on the kids' side, too. I think we'll have to see how it plays out.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Hey, as long as Jon keeps the kids out of the conversation....he does have 8 kids to support.
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And a very litigious ex.

Craziness said...

I bet MsGoody, Ziggy and Milo will watch EVERY second of that, and they probably hate the fact he's still with Liz when they think he's single or has a new gf. Proven wrong once again!

Mel said...

Conflicting thoughts here....at first I thought NO! Why, why, why?
He *said* he wanted to be a private person!

Then I thought, well, if he leaves the kids out of it. But how can you leave the kids out of it?? Even if *he* leaves the kids out of it, it will be all over the tabloids, thus indirectly involving the kids.

Then I thought, oh boy. TFW is going to have a conniption over this one! Karma, baby. Well deserved.

But then I sadly thought about those poor kids. Apparently I give more thought to their well-being....poor guys. They don't deserve this.

Martha said...

I'm very disappointed in Jon. I know he's broke, but this will definitely have an effect upon the kids...not just from the railings of TFW, but from the tv, media overflow. Very very disappointed.

Layla said...

Jon back on TV? I thought TFW said the interest in HER was huge. Maybe she forgot that her name isn't spelled J-O-N. I'm not thrilled with the type of show it is, but I'm sure he really needs the money. I hope he at least tries to keep things fairly low-key so it's not embarrassing for the kids, but looking at the rest of the cast, I'm not so sure.
I guess we now know why Jon and Liz were on that plane to LA. I wonder if TFW knew why they were going there.

Mel said...

I think Jon comes across sincere, because he *is* sincere....at that moment in time. And then the kalaidoscope spins and he's sincere about the next thing.

Wait and see I guess.

Tucker's Mom said...

I'm going to say that right now, I just do not understand Jon aligning himself with this show. Not at all.
Yes, it's a RTV show, but, who know if Kate's been offered something plucked from the same cesspool of shows like this exploitative dreck?
Both Jon and Liz have children. They will see their parent living in the same fauxlebrity hovel with the likes of "back door teen mom", Farrah Abraham, whose claim to fame is having a baby and having every orifice penetrated on tape for the world to see.
How does one even begin to explain this to their kids?
I have not seen the show, but am aware of it from seeing various posts on that underage girl marry a guy old enough to be her grandfather, with the blessing of her feeble-minded, fame-addled parents. They were on last season.
Is there an ounce, an iota of respectability to this show? Any way in hell it could actually help Jon further a career in tv vs. seal his fate as a "I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here" wannabe?
I'd be so behind Jon doing DWTS, I really would. I think DWTS can be an amazing vehicle for increasing a "star's" visibility and rehabilitation their image.
But this? I don't see it.
Please, someone convince me this will do any good, and I mean in the long run, not just the immediate paycheck.
How will Jon and Liz NOT address the elephant in the room, which is Kate. How will they NOT discuss their kids, because their relationship is not in a bubble?
Sorry for the rant and misspellings etc, but I'm just typing as fast accurate as my fingers can go while my squash is about to explode ;-)

Berks Neighbor said...

This explains Jon's trip to LA a couple of weeks ago. I've never watched this reality show. But, from what I know of Jon and Ellen, Kate was a HUGE problem with them. She caused a lot of stress and made it difficult when Jon had custody, and I can only imagine the stress it is on Liz and Jon with Kate on the sidelines being the total Biotch she is. This should be good, as long as he leaves the kids out of it.
Go Jon! (and Liz) I hope that this works out the best for the both of you so that you can have a strong relationship with good footing.

Paula said...

So you think the kids are going to watch VH1 and tune in to this show? LOL....

Amy2 said...

So Jon's on another reality show. Regardless if the show lasts very long or not, Jon (now being contract savvy) probably negotiated a nice paycheck for Liz and himself. Since TFW left Jon heavily in debt, by Jon's own admission, this is a way for him to claw his way out of debt. And since it doesn't involve the kids, I say good for you Jon.

I'm wondering if this reality show is the reason they flew to Los Angeles last week.

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