All I can say is wow.1.I hope this is fake.2.If it's not fake I feel so sad for the kids.3. I don't see the point in this we haven't heard from Robert in how long?
Stay tuned. ROL will be all over this. She just wants to bankrupt Jon and Robert with attorney fees.
Her children go to Jon's correct? Presumably they eat there and sleep on beds and have toys. Does she want to bankrupt him for every last cent or would she like him to have a little pocket money so her own flesh and blood children can be comfortable and happy during their time with him?Obsessed parental alienation.
Wiretapping? she's accusing Jon and Robert of wiretapping? WTH. This proves she will do anything to stay relevant, inspite of her children. What are they, collateral damage? She is despicable.
I hope Robert has been telling the truth. He and Jon should file a counter lawsuit against her if that 's the case. I bet she has threatened them, through her attorneys, for months leading up to the filing.
If this case makes it to a court room I'll be surprised. I feel that it will be thrown out. Even if it doesn't I can only imagine the amount of dirty little secrets that will be exposed. All those confidentiality agreements go right out the window. Many people that Kate doesn't want to talk will be called into court to testify. She may come to regret this last little stunt of hers. As far as those poor kids are concerned, I can't even imagine the hell they are going to have to live through knowing that your mom is suing your dad. This woman is despicable beyond words.
Robert has thankfully probably been told by his attorney to keep his trap shut. Kate and BV, working with ROL, are the ones who have released all kinds of info publicly.
INTERESTING TIMING with the cookbook about to release. She is betting on getting more tv air time.
Reposting this because I don't know where it went!Those poor kids, and with school starting on Wednesday. They will hear about this in school. Great welcoming back to another school year. Taunting..."Your dad's going to jail."Is prelimary statement the same thing as preliminary statement? Geez...How can you sue 20 people if you don't know their names and addresses? Depositions should be interesting.#35 "Untrue" -- will she have to prove which part of the book is true and which part is untrue?You know...Robert's book was all but forgotten. Why in heaven's name would she drag this up again? Publicity, vengeance, greed, or all three? Sometimes you just have to let sleeping dogs lie, and for the sake of the kids, this is one of those times.
Wiretapping lol. This would be funny if there weren't kids involved. Why do I picture Jon and Robert dressed up like Nicky Cohen in hats and oversized ties going into her TV installing wires and gluing microphones behind the wallpaper. Seriously Kate? Get a grip here.
So how does this work, Admin. She files a lawsuit, Jon and Robert's attorneys respond and then does a judge rule there is enough to go to trial?
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21 4mLooks like Kate is asking for a jury trial. Seems to me Jon Gosselin and Robert Hoffman are going to get their day in court @kateplusmy8Um. goody...that's standard language in complaints! LOL!
I'll bring my posts over
Welp, she filed it. She's suing the father of her kds.http://www.citypaper.net/blogs/nakedcity/221173551.htmlhttp://media.philly.com/documents/Complaint+%28ECF%29.pdf
Are the 20 "John Does" the twitter people? How do you sue a John Doe? I thought they knew some names? And if he stole her hard drive causing $5000 damages why didn't she call the police at the time? She must have noticed a hard drive missing. The computer wouldn't work.
Jury trial demanded! I may have to take some time off from work....
IP's are collected at the Bullyville website. Nasty character. PARTIES:1. Plaintiff Kate Gosselin Adult individual residing in Sinking Springs, PA2. Defendant Jon Gosselin Adult individual residing in Sinking Springs, PA3. Robert Hoffman Adult individual residing in Reading, PA4. Upon information and belief. Defendants 1 through 20 are individuals whose name and address are unknown.
I see why she wants to keep the kids off the internet.She knows good and well if her kids saw this that they would hate her.
wonder if Jon "flips-out" and releases his book September 24 and the sales top Kate's by millions. If this lawsuit goes forward; wonder what the kids will say or do?
Kate "I just want peace for my kids" Gosselin is destroying her kids. She signed, under penalty of perjury, a complaint that states Robert claims to have 5,000 family photos and that's impossible because there weren't 5,000 paper copies of family photos in the garbage. We all know that Robert claimed to have computer disks, not paper photos. Did she even read the complaint before she signed it?
Jon said in an interview that he is deeply in debt. All this will do is make the debt worse triggering a bankruptcy. He'll end up better off than he is right now.
More outrageous behavior on the part of TFW towards the father of her children. Isn't this the first day of school for them? The children will be exposed to all sorts of comments/abuse when this news gets out. In the recent People article she is quoted as saying she has changed. No, she is impossible of change. The timing of this news is highly suspect; coming as it does on the eve of her book/tour/campaign.She is hoping for sympathy interviews where she will be able to sob, "I can't talk about it, it's before the court". Next she will be suing her own children after they write their "tell alls".bm
Wow! I'm suspicious of the timing. When Robert's book was coming out Bully came out of nowhere and put a big red stop sign on it. When Kate's cookbook is coming out and it's already dead in the water, BAMM, lawsuit. Maybe Kate is hoping that this lawsuit will get her on those talk shows that were not returning her phone calls.My bet is that's its going to backfire and her hater( dislike her) group is going to grow!Auntie Anne hope your hubby is doing better. He is very lucky to have you to care for him!Zoe, hope you stay and comment, you have a friend in me!
RWA wasn't lying. She knew before this happened. I wouldn't want to be caught up in this type thing either.
This could come back to bite her in the butt...big time, if she has to prove all points in the complaint, particularly the "untrue" part. In deposition, she could be asked, "Is it true that those were your words...that you slammed your child down in the crib so hard...afraid you were seriously could to hurt them?" and her answer is "yes, those were my words."If, as Kate has always said, everything she does is for her children, then how on God's green earth is this going to help her kids?
And she thinks this will help her sell books?
Ahaaaa Kate is asking for a Jury trial. Is that usual in a civil action Admin?
Admin, shouldn't hacking and wiretapping have been settled in criminal court first? Doesn't the fact that there were no criminal charges filed against Jon & Robert speak to the fact that there's no there there?
All the reports say that it was personal and confidential information but nowhere does any report say that it was lies. She is a piece of work. If true, won't everything in the book come to light? I don't see how this will be good for her or boost her careere UNLESS she's doing it to get sole custody and move the kids to CA.
LOL ROL has the story and I read some of the comments. 2 trying to defend her, but some real scathing comments about Kate, her motives and what this could do to her children. In fact a few have pointed out the obvious, not only will what she did come to light, now it will be exposed to a much larger audience than the book ever could have reached. It's all about money and destroying Jon or it wouldn't have been a civil suit for money, she would have turned any evidence of this over to the police, for official charges for theft, illegal wiretapping and the like. She really is a piece of work and I don't mean that in a good way!
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 46m@HoneytheKoala @VictoryBeckons @Kateplusmy8 Only one parent looking bad here...the one that lied/stole & engaged in illegal activity!&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&Oh, Milo, buttercups...we know that you are dancing with glee here in your daisy dukes, but in your frenzied state of bliss, you need to be careful about making statements like this!So Milo thinks it's wonderful that the kids will be scared out of their minds that their father, whom they love, might be going to jail? Right on, Milo...you rock.Who are these twenty unknown people? Is this like the unknown comic, with bags over their heads?Isn't Kate allegedly up to her eyeballs in questionable activities, conferring with teens in taking down the haters? I can't keep up with this stuff.
I wish Kate Gosselin a lot of luck finding a jury pool in Eastern PA that doesn't already have very strong negative feelings about her.
This could go on for years. I hope the sheeple aren't expecting a ruling within the next few months so they can raise their glasses in a celebratory victory. By the time the decision comes down, it will be "Kate who?"
There we go. The whole Gosselin mess just fell into the rabbit hole. My prediction: all this will make absolutely no sense at all to no one and for a very long time, until it slowly fades in the sunset. Bless those children. They wil need it.
Isn't wiretapping and hacking a criminal matter? What's the matter Katie, did the Feds tell you you had no case?
xxxxx@RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 @BullyVille The lawyers would never risk their reps by filing if no solid proof. Never.Really? The Paula Deen case?
RealZiggyFlo @RealZiggyFlo 3m@Kateplusmy8 Lets count the things @BullyVille claimed the hater's said he was bluffing ... Still think he's bluffing?What does this have to do with BV? I am so confused. This is Kate's case against Jon, not a class action lawsuit that he says was in the works.
This is sickening. Hi kids - after a long boring summer, mommy decides to file a lawsuit against daddy just in time for your return to school. Oh I'm sure none of your friends, their parents or teachers will have seen this.What a delusional d-bag. Perhaps some of her book tour 'interviewers' will have the cojones to ask her about this instead, so much more interesting than canned food recipes. What is she thinking?She needs to be taken to court for parental alienation.
I am going to offer my nitpick regarding this lawsuit filed on behalf of TFW. I looked at the document posted by ROL, which appears to be a file-stamped copy of the Complaint. In the heading, it lists "Kate Gosselin" as the plaintiff. However, in the very first paragraph of the Complaint, where the parties are identified, it reads:"Plaintiff, Katie I. Gosselin ("Kate" or "Kate Gosselin") ..." That means, they should have listed her as Katie I. Gosselin in the heading, not "Kate." As I said, it's a nit pick, but shows sloppiness on the part of her attorneys. If this had been attempted to be filed in our local courthouse, the clerk would have pointed out the problem and would not have accepted the complaint for filing as is. My other question was regarding the statute. When did Kate first know about this alleged hacking, and did she file her suit in time. Of course, they did cover that in the complaint, although I don't think they give any exact date as to when this hacking was allegedly discovered. They say "recently." Okay, I said if and when a lawsuit was filed, there would be easily accessible evidence of it. This appears to be the lawsuit. Kate didn't "join" in any lawsuit, as she is the one who initiated this one. I am not familiar with computer law, hacking laws, etc. All I know is that Robert has claimed that he found documents and either a hard drive, a computer, or computer disks in the garbage that was considered accessible to the general public. He has always claimed that he violated no laws, nor hacked into Kate's computer, e-mail, or phone. As to Jon, who can know what a spouse (and soon to be ex-spouse) might do? It's a rather common occurrence that when a couple fights or breaks up, one will access the other's e-mail, phone records, etc., to snoop around for evidence of cheating or other information. In fact, some of us have admitted that we've accessed our minor child's Facebook page, or Twitter account, or cell phone records. Is that hacking? I could certainly see Jon knowing (or figuring out) Kate's passwords. He might have read her e-mail to see if she and Skeevy were having an affair, as he suspected. He might have felt she was hiding money from him to avoid an equal distribution of funds during the divorce. But on to my real question. What is the requirement in Federal Court for proof of damages? If they are able to convince a jury that Jon or Robert accessed information, had an e-book briefly published (for 2 days) on Amazon, what then? Kate's reputation was pretty much the same before and after the publication. Is she going to try to claim that she has lost work because of the two-day publication of Hoffman's book? How will she prove that? Did she have a contract in the works, that was then cancelled upon publication?What are her damages exactly? No matter what, as you point out Admin, this will be costly for Jon. He now has to retain an attorney admitted to practice in Federal Court, pay him a large retainer, pay filing fees, and who knows what else. I hope he gets good legal representation and I hope he prevails, and wouldn't it be wonderful if he got attorneys' fees and costs. Only time will tell.When karma catches up with Kate, it will be a doozy.
Good lord. Every bot in the country is going to be all over her Twitter. Guess these are just her adoring fans, though, huh?
Does she think that doing this is going to help her reputation?I mean she claimed that she had changed in people. I guess that didn't last to long.
http://media.nbcphiladelphia.com/documents/Gosselin+Lawsuit.pdf Here it is.
The complaint states that all parties reside in Eastern Pennsylvania and that John and Jane Does were involved in hacking and wiretapping. This has nothing to do with Twitter haters.Lawyers use the John and Jane Does to include anyone whose name comes up in Discovery. There aren't 20 more people being sued. It's a lawyers way of covering all their bases.
My post never went through earlier, but I had mentioned that if this suit does go through (which I think it will be dismissed) I believe that all of those confidentiality agreements go out the window. I thought that when it came to a court case those can't be enforced. Please admin. tell me if I am correct.
This is sickening. Hi kids - after a long boring summer, mommy decides to file a lawsuit against daddy just in time for your return to school. Oh I'm sure none of your friends, their parents or teachers will have seen this.-------------My heart goes out to those sweet children. I just want to cry. My gosh, woman, what are you thinking?Will she have to prove damages, such as her getting fired from CC, low book sales, the end of The Stir, and her other failures are a result of Hoffman's book?
Melissa NV said:Who are these twenty unknown people? Is this like the unknown comic, with bags over their heads?******That's something standard used when filing a complaint. You name "Doe defendants," so that if you discover the identities of other people you want to bring into the action later, you can do so. You file an Amendment that names the person in place of, for example, "Doe 1." The fact they only included up to 20 possible doe defendants means they don't think they will be naming numerous other parties to this action.Summer Days and Nights said:What does this have to do with BV? I am so confused. This is Kate's case against Jon, not a class action lawsuit that he says was in the works. ******You are right - it has nothing to do with BV, except that BV's attorney is listed as co-counsel for Kate, pending approval of pro hac vice status. Apparently, Radazza is not admitted to practice law before this court, but will apply for special permission to do so, just for this case. His request will probably be granted. Radazza and his firm are the attorneys who represented BV's owner in some past lawsuits. So there's the connection, but you are right - this is not a class action suit, and I cannot see where the information given by RWA's owner in response to some monkey'd up subpoena would apply here.
Wasn't Jon still living at home when he took the computer? If they weren't divorced wouldn't it be community property? Seems he'd have every right to take the computer.
Congrats TFW you've topped yourself, you did the one thing that will hurt your children more than anything that came before. My heart is aching for your children. What a legacy you're giving them, shame on you.
The paps are probably in their cars on their way to Wernersville as we speak. She'll do ANYTHING to stay relevant. Amazing how much she hates Jon for stopping the show. How can she explain this to the kids? She wants full custody, Naughty Rob had it right months ago...she wants to move to LA.
I'll watch and see if any of this is in our local newspaper, which of course will be accessible to school students. They tend not to publish anything involving Kate, Jon or the kids. I'll keep an eye out.
Truther> this does make kate a liar. She stated in the People article, something like> that she won't do anything to stay relevant, she does draw a line. Then Kate what is this? Could these be the 20 people who,suppose to have helped Jon & Robert, get rich and give/take info or some non-sense.I'm sure Goody is doing the happy dance. As for RWA, giving out info, most of the info on people, were given to BV by the Kate lackeys, that stuff had been out there, and hacked etc. If any info, it's like Admin said, last thread, they have no IP info, just set up info for web-site. Most of the info they got was wrong. I feel sorry for those kids, they will be teased at school, no school can really stop it. And private schools I've always heard are the worst.
"And if he stole her hard drive causing $5000 damages why didn't she call the police at the time? She must have noticed a hard drive missing. The computer wouldn't work."I doubt he would have stolen the hard drive, when he could have just copied the contents of it.
LOL ROL has the story and I read some of the comments.&&&&&&&&&ROL and the rest of the free world! I've never seen so many Twitter Bots on there! Where do they come from? They are like bees on a honey pot!
Colour me Confused said... 23Wasn't Jon still living at home when he took the computer? If they weren't divorced wouldn't it be community property? Seems he'd have every right to take the computer.____________Jon didn't take the computer. It's alleged that he took the hard drive. Robert Hoffman insists the information he obtained was on discs that he retrieved from the trash.
Of course Jon had her password. My husband has mine, and I have his.
I haven't come across anything in the lawsuit yet about defamation of character or libel. Did I miss that? If it's not in the lawsuit, I have to assume that what was written about her is true.
Those comments at ROL are brutal! Wow! Yup, Kate, you outdid yourself this time!The hard drive vs. computer disks, vs. paper should be interesting.
Wasn't Jon still living at home when he took the computer? If they weren't divorced wouldn't it be community property?&&&&&&&&&&&&&PA is not a community property state, but assets held by both parties are subject to equal distribution when divorced. It's marital property and tends to be confusing.
Very telling that the Complaint doesn't allege slander or libel. All of the counts have to do with how the information was obtained, and no claims that the contents of the materials or the book are false.
Robert always said that he had info that he would not reveal unless she sued. I wonder if he will release it now.
and no claims that the contents of the materials or the book are false. &&&&&&&&&&&&77Yes, there is. Number 35, Page 5. I'm confused, though, does this mean that she is suing him for libel?
She is so predictable. Sadly the children will again be the ones to lose the most.
Does she honestly believe that Robert's book was her downfall? Seriously? Has she checkedout her bio BEFORE Robert put out his book?I guess if you can't make money by writing a cookbook or a memoir to your kids, or by getting another TV show or selling Bella Bars or by running marathons or by being an ET correspondent or by blogging or by couponing or by getting a seat on The View... then just sue someone! That'll fill the coffers just fine. Summer vacation, here we come!I've been wrong before but I just don't see that this lawsuit will go much of anywhere. I feel confident Robert will stand by his story of getting the discs out of the trash. I also believe that this jury on demand will see that it makes sense in light of Jon's moving out and TFW's determination to get everything connected with him off the property NOW.I have been a plaintiff in a civil suit. I won, but it still cost me about $25,000 in atty fees. I hope Kate is aware that it's possible she will not win and she will lose money in the venture (unless it's a case of "you don't pay unless you win")I continue to be astounded by her.
As bad as it would be for the kids to go through, I actually want this to go to trial and be made public. Then TFMJG would have to admit the journals are real, admit how she lied to the public and took money from church going people while crying poor. What will the sheeple do when all her misdeeds have to be acknowledged by TFW herself??My heart really goes out to the kids though. How awful for them.
She is alleging that he stole the hard drive. Wouldn't she have known this right away? If my hard drive isn't in my computer my computer doesn't work. Shouldn't she have filed charges then when she took it to find out why it wouldn't boot up and they told her "Ma'am, you don't have a hard drive". I'd wonder where mine went. I really do feel sorry for the kids. "Um yes I'm suing my ex for everything he's got and oh by the way, I've got a book coming out!" Apparently all he's got are his parental rights.
Poor Jon. What if he can't afford an attorney?
Will she have to prove damages, such as her getting fired from CC, low book sales, the end of The Stir, and her other failures are a result of Hoffman's book? *******"Your Honor, the defense calls its next witness Mr. Scott Kluth.""Your Honor, the defense calls its next witness, Ms. ________ of Zondervan Books.""Thank you, Ms. Rene Syler, for your testimony."
Looks like there is a solid link between Kate, BV, and BV's attorney because Bullyville broke the story with the copy of the complaint. Bullyville gave that complaint to ROL because ROL has it imprinted with Bullyville on each page.This is what has been alleged all along but it is surprising she went ahead with the filing. As I stated earlier, it falls in line with publicity for the cookbook.
Wow, I feel so sorry for the kids. Just in time to start another media frenzy, have paps show up at the bus stop, have the kids get stared at and teased.For the legal minds out there-- why has Jon not been charged formally with anything? If she's got so much "proof", why wouldn't the police have arrested Jon?
I'm sure we'll learn all about via Twitter. You know, cause the kids won't see it. Marie
I would think jane does 1-20 could be anyone who had access to the supposed stolen info or distributed it?
I wonder what's going on with Robert Hoffman. His family, my goodness... Kate will try to ruin him. His poor kids, too.
Will someone please explain to the sheeple that no one is going to jail? This is a civil case not a criminal case. If all these laws were broken, why didn't Kate go to the police and press charges? These are very serious allegations and if my ex did this to me, I would pursue the matter in criminal and civil courts.
PA Dutch Mom said... 50I'll watch and see if any of this is in our local newspaper, which of course will be accessible to school students. They tend not to publish anything involving Kate, Jon or the kids. I'll keep an eye out))))))))Well, Philly Channels 6 and 10 have tweeted articles so I would guess yes.
I can only think that Kate wants to severe Jon's custody completely and move the kids to LA. Jon and Hoffman are not made of money and they will have nothing left after attorney fees, so what's the end game?
The logic in number 30 is so ridiculous I can't believe an attorney wrote it. Picking through trash is not illegal, you could certainly have found many paper documents if there were a lot of bags of trash out there (no one ever specified whether it was 2 bags or 25 did they?) and you could find even more if they were electronic. I can hold 5000 photos in one hand. It's called a 64 gig memory card. I think TFW should just be honest with what she wants: Jon gone, for good, out of the children's lives. Just own it.
PA Dutch Mom -- I wasn't careful enough with my words. Their is the single allegation that you mention -- para 35. But there are no claims/legal theories based on falsehood. No slander or libel, for example.
This is what has been alleged all along but it is surprising she went ahead with the filing. As I stated earlier, it falls in line with publicity for the cookbook. ******And publicity for Bullyville.Marie
I read the comments on ROL.TFW needs to add a recipe to her cookbook:"How to Cook Your Own Goose"She's done this to herself. She didn't need anyone's help to destroy her own "career."
The complaint uses wording "untrue" but if she was seeing for slander and /or libel it would say that I would think? It would be worth it to get her on a witness stand to catch her lying.I doubt Jon has the money to fight this and this is EXACTLY what the lawsuit is all about: forcing a settlement. Then she can get full custody and stop Robert too.
I wonder if one of the Jane Does will be Hailey Glassman.
How in blazes does she think this is in any way positive publicity for the crapbook? All American divorcee sues the father of her children while putting on a brave face as she serves sloppy gloppy to the kids? Astounding.
Way to take the high road Kate! I hope the ladies at the View have a field day with this one.
How in the world is she going to respond during her "media appearances" for her book? Does she actually think she can spin this to make her look good when asked about it??
Hey, I thought Robert or was it Jon said, that> Jon was living above garage, while Jon was out, Kate had a hissy fit and threw his computer in the trash. Jon & Robert came the next day and moved Jon out, and collected his stuff from the trash. Kate called the cops, on them. So, did that happened or not?
Why do the attorneys say with the accusations " by information and belief"? How can belief be proof?
TFW, CVW (current vindictive witch), knows she'll never collect any money from Jon, so she's going to try to prevent him from ever being able to earn any money in the future. She's so vindictive she'll try to attach all of his future earnings beyond what's necessary to pay his bills and leave him unable to even treat the kids to an ice cream cone! I've never doubted it, but if anyone ever did I hope this suit proves that she hates Jon more than she loves her children.
You can have external HDs or even spare internal HDs. It doesn't necessarily mean they took the HD out of the PC ;) Also, Jon should really seek the help of that attorney who was friends with his dad. He seemed to be the only competent one of the bunch, and my impression was that he was helping as a favor, not so much for the fee?
Personal on line bank accounts seems to be a theme throughout the document. Was she hiding money as many suspected? Does she not realize that everything will come out during a trial and no one will fall for the no tear crying? This may end up as her biggest fail yet. She truly does hate Jon more than she loves her kids. As others have mentioned I think she wants to pick up and move to LA for Mady's career (her own is dead in the water). I guess she doesn't realize that she won't be able to live as she's living now out in CA. She may have f-you money in PA but it takes a lot more in CA. Get out the popcorn! #sittingatlunchshakingmyheadindisgust
How convenient the timing of the filing of this suit and TFW's scheduled tabloid tv show appearances. I'm also wondering if TFW had ever heard of the law firm that's filed this suit before BV's lawyer got involved. I'd bet money that Randazza arranged for these PA attorneys for her. It's interesting that her regular lawyers aren't handling this.
jbranck1980 said... 64What will the sheeple do when all her misdeeds have to be acknowledged by TFW herself??______They'll blame Jon for not stopping her.They'll blame Robert for outing her.They'll blame TLC & Steve & The Sitters for not protecting KK.I bet they'll even blame Jamie and Ashley for not helping her.Cause OMG she has 8 kids it's not her fault that she hurt them. All the while they'll kiss her butt.
I hope someone will step up and help Jon. He really needs a good attorney and at this point I don't know if he can afford one. When does the break finally go his way? Marie
NJGal51 said... 26And she thinks this will help her sell books?______I was think the same thing. But now she'll blame this for her books not selling.
I think she really is unable to understand that for many people it's more outrageous to sue your children's father than the original crime, if there was one. It's like in her head she thinks see if I just prove to them he stole it, they'll understand. Kate? It's a hard drive. He didn't choke a puppy or tie you to a tree and leave you there or take your car and push it off a cliff. You're claiming he took...a.... hard drive. A hard drive! She really is clueless how ridiculous, vindictive and vengeful she sounds. Her behavior is far more disturbing than the dang hard drive incident.
I have been a plaintiff in a civil suit. I won, but it still cost me about $25,000 in atty fees. I hope Kate is aware that it's possible she will not win and she will lose money in the venture (unless it's a case of "you don't pay unless you win")&&&&&&&&&&&Personal injury cases work like that. Of course, they could have taken it on a contingency basis -- they'll get a third of the settlement if there is one. However, even with that, there are fees not covered and she'll have to fork over some cash.
Kate? It's a hard drive.&&&&&&Is it a hard drive, or a disk? The complaint alleges hard drive; Hoffman says disk, not hard drive.I guess we'll find out!
Oops, I meant "there" not "their."
Kate's need to stay relevant is really going to back fire. All of the stuff she said in People>she just contradicted herself(not that anyone really believed her). Will see if any of the media will do a interview, other than the Today and that Canada show, and those were for the cookbook promo. Course, Kate will say, her lawyer said, not to talk about it. What a piece of work. And the comments at some of the articles> most if not all are negative. Good job Kate!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 94I think she really is unable to understand that for many people it's more outrageous to sue your children's father ___I honestly think she missing that little voice in her head that say's."This isn't right"-or"Please don't do it cause it won't end well". She has to be missing that voice.
But there are no claims/legal theories based on falsehood. No slander or libel, for example.&&&&&&&&&&&There wouldn't be in the complaint. However, they are alleging "untrue" and if this is included in the recitation as part of the suit, it will have to be proven, or thrown out.
Kate said in May that she was going forth with a lawsuit after all the BV craploa. I would say, in my limited experience, that filing of her lawsuit was no surprise to Jon nor Robert. The attorneys on both sides are in contact and even may share the filing beforehand to intimidate the defendants. It's like, see what we are going to file and it's going public, so you better cave and nice. They did not. I think Jon and Robert will be just fine. From what I read of the lawsuit, it sounds like a bunch of suspicions and not facts. Why file in civil court if what you claim violated federal law and was criminal? I think because her evidence is not solid.
I've just started reading this new topic, so I'm sure that what I have to say has already been said, but I want to get in my two cents and questions right now...lolRobert made it very clear that he has PROOF of everything he found in the trash. He said he had it in a safe place. Robert also said/warned TFW that if he was called a liar by TFMJG, he would release even more damning information.Now that TFMJG has sued both Jon and Robert, won't everything he has now be a part of discovery? I don't understand why the law suit continues to say the ''hard drive'' was stolen, when Robert has said over and over and over that he found disks, NOT a hard drive. Why is the suit saying that things in the trash were stolen? Doesn't the law firm that is filing the suit know that in PA, once the trash is at the curb it is no longer the property of the person putting out the trash?That woman is a worthless piece of work! I feel so sorry for Jon's children.
What will the sheeple do when all her misdeeds have to be acknowledged by TFW herself??****************************************She is the perpetual victim, all narcissists are. I am sure the last 2 sheeple she has left identify with her to a great extent. They will twist this around to suit theirs and her agenda.
chefsummer I think you are absolutely correct. Her books won't sell and it is because of Jon. She just can't accept or admit that she failed at something. There always has to be someone else to blame.
Well, Philly Channels 6 and 10 have tweeted articles so I would guess yes. -------------I will be surprised if there is anything in the Lancaster paper about this, for reasons that I won't get into.However, the older I get, the less shocked I get. I'll see what they do with this story, if anything.
Also, Jon should really seek the help of that attorney who was friends with his dad. ***************************************Honestly, is there not ONE GOOD HEARTED attorney who will take his case? Really?
TLC stinks said... 80 The complaint uses wording "untrue" but if she was seeing for slander and /or libel it would say that I would think? It would be worth it to get her on a witness stand to catch her lying.I doubt Jon has the money to fight this and this is EXACTLY what the lawsuit is all about: forcing a settlement. Then she can get full custody and stop Robert too.__________________________________________I thought the exact same thing. This suit has more to do with alleged hacking than alleged untruths. As I read through the docs, all I could vision in my head was a venomous spider. She is full of venom, hate and rage. I hope someone informed her that Robert and Jon will have their day in court too, and they will be allowed to defend themselves. I think she thinks she gets to present her side, then the judge will find them guilty and banish them to the dungeon. She's taking a huge gamble here. I predict there will be much sniffing and dabbing on her talk show circuit. Poor Kate, the victim of Jon Gosselin once again. Only this time no one will buy it. 3,000 negative comments on one article about her new life pretty much sums it up.
These are very serious allegations and if my ex did this to me, I would pursue the matter in criminal and civil courts.---------------- ...and send the father of your children to jail? What purpose would that serve?
"Kate? It's a hard drive. He didn't choke a puppy or tie you to a tree and leave you there or take your car and push it off a cliff. You're claiming he took...a.... hard drive. A hard drive!"What's even more mind boggling is that she thinks somehow that stealing a piece of property trumps her physical abuse of her children. Will that necessarily end up being addressed in court?
I'm wondering if Jon has the money to even hire an attorney, let alone pay the exorbitant fees fighting something like this will cost. TFW doesn't care - she has plenty of money at her disposal plus, most likely, Randazza and friends is giving her a huge discount just to be able to chalk this up as a win for his buddy BV.
It would be cheaper for Jon to just pay the 5 grand in damages she wants. Sure he could get an attorney and scrape together every last cent that should have been used to provide for his children. But what about the next time she sues and the next? She will never stop. The only way to stop her is for the other party not to engage. She needs therapy not lawyers. I've said this before, lawsuits don't make it better. While sometimes they are necessary, usually they just add to your problems. Is she looking for that "feeling" she will get when Jon is finally buried? Is that what she wants? Does she know that for most people they report that feeling wasn't as good as they thought it was and that it doesn't change what happened? She sure needs help.
Does the allegation about Robert not being able to pull paper out of the trash make sense to anyone?And just because he said he'll probably be sued isn't an admission of guilt. I mean, Kate is the "can we sue" queen, so yeah, he knew it was coming.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 6m@Kateplusmy8 Kate has prepared 4this...she has prepared her kids as well! Their well being is at the core of WHY she finally had 2stand up!How in the bleep would she know this? She appears to be out of her freaking mind, and to think that she allegedly has children of her own.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 95It would be cheaper for Jon to just pay the 5 grand in damages she wants*******This is so not about the money, don't you think? Jon's got none. This is about terminating his parental rights. I hope Robert keeps his word and unleashes his arsenal of material. Nothing to lose now.
So, from what we know (and Hoffman has always, consistently said) is that he helped Jon move out, and TFW called the cops (and there is a police report to back that up). Hoffman showed up on the next trash day, knowing that TFW is vindictive and would throw out anything else lying around that might be Jon's. He found the discs, and used the information to write the book. No theft. No wiretapping. No vast conspiracy. Isn't the burden of proof on TFW? If all this happened just as Hoffman said, then how is she going to prove that it happened otherwise? I'm sure Hoffman can produce the discs that he found in the trash. So, how is she thinking she'll convince people that he never found them if he has them? The complaint makes it sound like Hoffman found thousands of documents and pictures in the trash, and that wouldn't be possible. Hoffman never said any such thing. If a jury can see the actual discs, then they are not going to believe that those discs in their hands aren't real. She has gone way too far this time. And it's the kids who will pay the price. Could it be that this is all just a charade to get the kids from Jon so she can move to LA and re-start (HA!) her media career (double HA!), or maybe get Mady working to support her?
Milo tweeted:@Kateplusmy8 Kate has prepared 4this...she has prepared her kids as well! Their well being is at the core of WHY she finally had 2stand up!#####################How in God's great universe do you "prepare" a child for this? Oh, by the way, kids, I'm suing your father for identity theft and hacking. He was a bad, bad boy and he has to pay. I'll take him down. Now, write your orders down for leftovers, and we'll just be one happy family. If he goes to jail, I'll have Nanny ___ drive you to the correctional facility for a monthly visit. We can do a photo shoot there.My heart breaks for them. Obviously, the sheeple don't give a rat's rear end about the children. It's all about Kate and revenge, and always will be.She also tweeted:@Kateplusmy8 RH & EX underestimated Kate...her tenacity, her strength, her love 4her kids! They expected her 2b intimidated & quit! #NoWayLOVE FOR HER KIDS? Good God.
Caroline Flynn @carolineflynn 6m@Kateplusmy8 will you be doing any book signings in NY?###########No, but she will sign copies of the complaint if you mail it to her with a stamped addressed return envelope.
I still say karma isn't done with Kate. So out of all of this, there's still that.
If she thinks one of her children has a chance in Hollywood, she is crazy. They would have had to have been extensively schooled in music, singing, dancing, manners, public speaking, whatever. Apparently none of them had this training or she would have bragged her head off about it. And if she thinks it is cheap living in Los Angeles, she is further crazy. She still blames Jon for the cancellation of the show. It was bound to end any way, and not in 18 years.Maybe when the younger kids graduate high school Jon will finally be free of all her threats. I feel bad that he and the kids are tied to her for life. But at least at 18 they will have a choice. Maybe some of them will leave and never look back. I wonder if Robert will let all the dogs out now that he is being sued. She must think she is Teflon. Even Teflon wears out.
Didn't Kate's old lawyers, Laverne & Shirley throughly vet this book over the summer of 2012? Robert had lawyers too. The book was released. It was only for 2 days, then it was taken down by TLC because of their intellectual propery being divulged. Intellectual property Kate surely by contract with TLC, was obligated to protect. Could TLC be suing Kate and Kate is attempting with *this* suit to prove that she reasonably protected it? Hmmmm. The docs keep saying the book was taken down because the info was illegally obtained. But, but, but... if the info was (allegedly) illegally obtained, how come Laverne & Shirley weren't able to prevent it's release in the first place?
getofftwitter said... Hey, I thought Robert or was it Jon said, that> Jon was living above garage, while Jon was out, Kate had a hissy fit and threw his computer in the trash. Jon & Robert came the next day and moved Jon out, and collected his stuff from the trash. Kate called the cops, on them. So, did that happened or not? ***********Yes, Jon was living above the garage. TFW gave Jon little time to remove his things from the apartment, so he called Robert to help him. It was raining that night. TFW knew Robert was a friend of Jon's but TFW called the police to have Robert removed from the property anyway. Everything that wasn't taken that night was put out for the trash.
I just love Kate's reaction when something ugly is going to come out about her. She hides like a little bi***ch waiting to see how she is going to be portrayed. I don't think she is going through with the lawsuit. She thinks that Jon and Robert don't have the funds to fight her and she will win by default. Maybe she's trying to get sole custody of the kids so she can do with them as she pleases! Maybe she thinks people are going to run to her side and love, love her! Who knows how this woman even thinks, all I know is that I dislike her more every day. Poor kids!
Lauren @ljohnson2006 24mThe comments about @Kateplusmy8 on @peoplemag's website are vile. She did this for her kids safety and welfare. Not to be back in the mediaThere are some fans who are just a little bit slow on the uptake, and then there are those who are dumber than a bag of hair.
Well she did it. She made the headlines of the 4:30 Philadelphia news. And she thinks her kids won't see this? She is despicable.
Personal Opinion, I think she is down to just a couple of million left in the bank. To TFW that is "her" money, not the kids. She doesn't feel that she should have to spend "her" money to raise them. It is all Jon's fault that "her" children can no longer provide for "her" lifestyle, therefore, he must be punished. I think that she is starting to panic because from day one everything has been paid for them. She will do whatever necessary to make sure that "her" money stays "her" money.Buggy's Mom
But what about the next time she sues and the next? She will never stop.##############You're right. It's like emotional blackmail. It's never going to end. Each time she feels like she's been harmed or damaged in any way or needs money or publicity, she'll find some reason to do so.Of course, any settlement terms could include the stipulation that she could never sue him again. I would hope that his attorney would make certain that this is in place, as well as the terms of the settlement could never to disclosed to anyone at any time.
Could someone explain what BV is getting out of this, other than publicity and money from the kids' bank accounts? Or maybe that's enough for him? I was reading his Twitter timeline and was appalled at what he's been tweeting. The most vulgar of the vulgarities,and I'm very far from a prude. You know the kids are aware of this and have to have read his tweets. Kate has aligned herself with a scummy attorney and a bully web owner so she can suck Jon dry. He's admitted to having no money so I have to assume she wants to settle this and the settlement will be for RH to turn over all his documents and files and promise never to speak of her again. She's running scared, she knows RH has the goods.
In the complain, #51, it says, "Plaintiff has no adequate remedy of law for Defendants' continued violation of the CFAA and thus requires the imposition of both an award for damages and injunctive relief".If Jon and Hoffman, as she alleged, did/continue to violate the CFAA, then how can she claim that there is no adequate remedy of law? If they broke the law, wouldn't they have been investigated and charged with a crime? The only way that I can think of that they would not have been charged with a crime is if A) It never happened,or B) she can't prove it. If she is claiming CFAA violations, then it is a matter for criminal court, not civil court.
May said... 96Well she did it. She made the headlines of the 4:30 Philadelphia news. And she thinks her kids won't see this? She is despicable.********Abuser, alienator. Still.
Xfinity has the suit on its homepage under entertainment news. The article mentions previous legal issues such as her speeding ticket and the therapist suit.I still can not believe that anyone thinks that Hoffman's book has anything to do with her lack of tv jobs. Her lack of talent and behavior helped sink her career.
This is so ironic the fans talking about how she "needed" to do this. Why? I thought they were a happy happy joy joy family and everything was great. This must be an alternative universe because I would have thought it was the child abuser we should be worried about when it comes to the kids and there welfare, not someone who may or may my have taken files that probably he had every right to access in the first place as a spouse.
Bottom Dwellers said... 97 Could someone explain what BV is getting out of this, other than publicity and money from the kids' bank accounts? Or maybe that's enough for him? ***************Where did you see that BV is getting money from her? I've only read a few things regarding BV, but what I have seen, he doesn't get money from anyone. Of course, he does get publicity.
Kate doesn't need to do this. Jon didn't get her show canceled or shitcan her from CC.For you PA posters here, I'm so sorry that Kate Gosselin will be using your hard earned dollars, once again.You know what? I'm glad Sylvia LaFair dropped her case against Kate. That woman will go to the ends of the earth to extract vengeance. I hope someone, for ONCE, asks her the hard questions when she does her media blitz and I'm sure there will be one.
Apparently David Perel doesn't work for Radar anymore? He was fired?https://twitter.com/MissAnonNews/status/372093513564823552This is interesting
The next headline I would love to see is "Jon Gosselin and Robert Hoffman's Legal Bills Paid by Gators!"Robert set up a donations link on his Gosselin book site awhile back, at the request of many who really appreciated his book. I can only hope he got some meaningful response.
From Huff Post:"Jon violated a federal anti-hacking statute in order to publish salacious, scandalous and defamatory information about Kate," said her lawyer A. Jordan Rushie. "It's damaged her reputation."Um, In order for it to be damaged, I kind of think you have to have a good reputation (to being with) in order for it to be damaged!
Over And Out said... 99Caroline Flynn @carolineflynn 6m@Kateplusmy8 will you be doing any book signings in NY?###########No, but she will sign copies of the complaint if you mail it to her with a stamped addressed return envelope.~~~~~~~Over and Out....you just caused me to snort my Sunkist out my nose!
Regarding the lawsuit, what does the reference to Jane Doe 1-20 mean? One of BV's sycophants is saying that process servers will be very busy and 20 of the haters need to worry.
I've only read a few things regarding BV, but what I have seen, he doesn't get money from anyone. Of course, he does get publicity.*****************Well, he does get $200 when he removes defamatory comments.
I think this one is going to explode and vomit all over her in ways she and her minions cannot even imagine. The court of public opinion is not kind to people who pull this crap; today's comments on the site covering this 'breaking news' show that already.Milo's head is so up her ass you can see the top of it when TFW opens her mouth.
“I’ll be back soon grabbing Kate’s computer before she gets home. I need that hard drive,” read a text, dated October 14, 2009 from a number McGibney said he confirmed belonged to Jon.Another text read, “I’m giving it to a good friend of mine to hold.”“No one will know,” another missive charged. “Rob is going to say he took it from our garbage.”Something stinks. There's waaay too much information given in those texts. Spoofed, maybe? Desperate times call for desperate measures. I don't think Kate has a whole lot of money left and I think her cookbook dive-bombed before it ever left the launchpad. Someone should have told her that fame is a perishable commodity. She could have just bowed out like Jon did when it was over. She's made a nuisance of herself now and she's nothing more than a hemorrhoid in "anals" of tv history. I'll bet the talk shows don't even want her on.
Oh, it's been picked up and it's all over the Internet. She must be dancing a jig that her name is out there. We really should not be surprised by her lawsuit. The accusations were already out there. It's just that it is appalling that she will do ANYTHING to keep her 15 minutes going. I hope Robert and Jon, with counsel, respond unemotionally to the lawsuit and are able to get their story out there because WE KNOW she will be peddling her lies for the next few months on any media that will book her. Admin, because she filed this lawsuit, can she get a family judge to deny Jon the right to see the kids while the lawsuit is pending?
From lawsuit:37. On information and belief, Defendants Hoffman, Jon Gosselin and Does 1-20 illegally accessed Kate's computer's confidential data, and then conspired among each other to spread false, defamatory, and unflattering information about Kate Gosselin for the purpose of profiting from the book and tabloid publication.Just saw a tweet regarding the above:@XXXXXXXX "Conspired .. to spread false, defamatory..." that's the defamation allegation. Method of defaming did NOT have to be spelled out in lawsuit@XXXXXXXXA complaint (lawsuit) does NOT include all specifics, merely the basis, of the lawsuit. Methods will be disclosed as case progresses.____________Comments, Admin, Millicent, anyone?
Layla said... 102 So, from what we know (and Hoffman has always, consistently said) is that he helped Jon move out, and TFW called the cops (and there is a police report to back that up). Hoffman showed up on the next trash day, knowing that TFW is vindictive and would throw out anything else lying around that might be Jon's. He found the discs, and used the information to write the book. No theft. No wiretapping. No vast conspiracy. Isn't the burden of proof on TFW? If all this happened just as Hoffman said, then how is she going to prove that it happened otherwise? I'm sure Hoffman can produce the discs that he found in the trash. So, how is she thinking she'll convince people that he never found them if he has them? The complaint makes it sound like Hoffman found thousands of documents and pictures in the trash, and that wouldn't be possible. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Layla, you are absolutely right. Below is the excerpt from Robert's blog explaining how he came to obtain the discs. Before Radar would report on any part of his book, they made Robert take a lie detector test regarding how he obtained the information. Robert said he passed with flying colors. While lie detector tests are not admissible in court, they are awful hard to fake/beat."Interestingly enough, there’s a police report on file documenting the fact that Kate called the police on me because I was at the house at night in the rain on April 28, 2010 helping Jon move his belongings out of the apartment above the garage because Kate told him that anything that was left would be thrown in the trash the following day. She was so spiteful and mean-spirited that she called the police on someone helping Jon move things out of the garage, in the rain. The report also states that she knew I was a reporter, and yet she still threw his things to the street. Of course I was back at the house before the next trash pickup and picked up what was left on the street for the trash men. Completely legal."After a little digging around, sure enough I found pictures of Jon moving into his Reading apartment, April 28, 2010Jon moving 4/28/10
Mel maybe he just guessed it? Maybe kept typing in paswords like memememe and iamthebest75 until something took.
Curious, BV is getting publicity and Kate is using his attorney, so some kind of deal was hatched. That is something worth investigating on Jon's side because the master of bullying, and with a nasty, vile site, has defamed Jon and Robert. They are " in bed" with each other and it started with Kate saying she was bullied. This plan has been going on for months. If someone out there had the cajoles to investigate this, it would be bigger news than the lawsuit.
Tucker's Mom said... 120''....I hope someone, for ONCE, asks her the hard questions when she does her media blitz and I'm sure there will be one.''~~~~~~~~~~~~~TFMJG will just say that because of the law suit, she can't comment. What I'm hoping is that she gets no media invites other than the ones already mentioned for her cookbook.
LOL. Ok, I had to look up the spelling of cojones.
Of course I was back at the house before the next trash pickup and picked up what was left on the street for the trash men. Completely legal**********************************************And alllll he was doing was collecting JON'S STUFF, THINGS, PROPERTY that she so callously, viciously, disgustingly, effing sadistically threw to the curb. Just like her marriage vows. Stupid Vindictive B%$#@
This post got lost....so I'm re-posting it. I'm just waiting for Milo to be all excited to tell TFMJG that she is ''TRENDING''.Robert made it very clear that he has PROOF of everything he found in the trash. He said he had it in a safe place. Robert also said/warned TFW that if he was called a liar by TFMJG, he would release even more damning information.Now that TFMJG has sued both Jon and Robert, won't everything he has now be a part of discovery? I don't understand why the law suit continues to say the ''hard drive'' was stolen, when Robert has said over and over and over that he found disks, NOT a hard drive. Why is the suit saying that things in the trash were stolen? Doesn't the law firm that is filing the suit know that in PA, once the trash is at the curb it is no longer the property of the person putting out the trash?That woman is a worthless waste of skin! I feel so sorry for Jon's children.
I feel sad for their innocent kids.May God protect them.
teresa darienzo @popems42 17m@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Where do you get your info. You act as though you are BFF's with Kate. You admitted you've never met her.Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 8m@popems42 @Kateplusmy8 LOL. That worries U all doesn't it? Just know we trust each other & have mutual interests! All is good there...:)The final stage of CWS.
Maybe kept typing in paswords like memememe and iamthebest75 until something took.------------------------------I thought it was either umumumumum or honestlyhonestlyhonestly!I'm curious about the 20 John Doe defendants. Do they know who they are, and is it ever disclosed?Milo claims to have children, does she not? If she suspected LOM of illegally hacking her computer or stealing her identity, would she sue the father of her children? Someone should ask her that question.
Posted this before I saw that Admin had a new post up.Wiretapping? She is making it sound like she was spied on!The cellphone texts from Jon and were found to be fake weren't they? I don't mean the conversation Hailey had with Kate about setting up Jon, but the texts someone said they had that were from Jon's phone.
Is Radar the only one who has linked the legal documents? I didn't dare click on it and I noticed other rag tabloids didn't have it on theirs...just the article minus the documents.
One of BV's sycophants is saying that process servers will be very busy and 20 of the haters need to worry. ------------Fine, but what does this have to do with Kate suing Jon and Robert? Is this the class action lawsuit, or is this something that Kate is doing on her own against the 20 "haters?" How much is she demanding from them? Are they co-conspirators in the alleged wiretapping/identity theft? I'm so confused how all of them could be lumped together if these are separate issues -- that is, the suit against Jon and Robert for hacking-for-profit, and against the 20 people for who knows what at this point?
In regards to David Perel of ROLI found the following:http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/david-perel-american-media-inc-national-inquirer-radar-online_b90630David Perel Out at American MediaBy Richard Horgan on August 6, 2013 10:05 AM"Florida gossip king Jose Lambiet has the exclusive on the end of an era at American Media Inc. Longtime employee David Perel is out.The only question, since AMI wouldn’t comment to Lambiet for the item, is whether Perel was forced out or has left of his own volition:*Perel’s contract is believed to run until April, but two sources at AMI tell Gossip Extra Perel was told not to bother showing up for work. The way Perel tells it, he’s pursuing other opportunities.Regardless, the news should delight a few celebs, and their loved ones!"
Better call Saul!Sorry Admin, I know it's not a joking matter but I couldn't help it.
Admin, because she filed this lawsuit, can she get a family judge to deny Jon the right to see the kids while the lawsuit is pending?****I've no idea, but if she can, she will.
never sued somebody but correct me if Im wrong....doesn't that cost money to sue someone? And wasn't she just crying poor not 2 weeks ago???
"Jon violated a federal anti-hacking statute in order to publish salacious, scandalous and defamatory information about Kate," said her lawyer A. Jordan Rushie. "It's damaged her reputation."____Nah KK did a fine job in messing up her own reputation.I mean she admit to doing so in last weeks people or was she lying again?
Blue Moon said... 136From Huff Post:"Jon violated a federal anti-hacking statute in order to publish salacious, scandalous and defamatory information about Kate," said her lawyer A. Jordan Rushie. "It's damaged her reputation."Um, In order for it to be damaged, I kind of think you have to have a good reputation (to being with) in order for it to be damaged!******Kate's success, when she had it, was based on being a vaunted Christian mother of HOM's. That myth was shattered to pieces when her own words were published. She beat her kids, for crying out loud.But, Jon had nothing to do with Kate dressing like a prostitute and acting like a diva.I too believe this is going to end badly for Kate. If I were Jon, I'd demand that every bit of TLC's raw footage to released and that people who know Kate have their CA's revoked in order to testify.She is going to try to hurt a lot of people and blame them for her failures, but it's going to work both ways and more people than ever will be reading her journals.
Does it take this long to initiate a lawsuit. I mean, this was YEARS ago, so why now?
So this piecing and patching she's been doing (People article) was all in preparation for this lawsuit...she knew she needed attorney's fees, so she's been scrimping and saving and slicing her own deli meat?
I wonder if Robert is holding back on some of the ammunition he has against Kate. If I were Kate, I wouldn't feel so smug about all of this. It could backfire and all hell will break loose. Robert doesn't seem like the type of person who is going to take this lying down. I would have thought twice, or three times about going forward with this. Sometimes it's best not to poke the bear.
I think Kate is exposing herself to a potential lawsuit and IRS audit once her journals become a part of this trial.Yes, your honor, I was taking cold hard cash from good church going folks when I was filthy rich and buying a 1.2 million dollar home. How much cash have I collected over the years, and have I paid the taxes on it?Ummmm....
This whole publicity stunt on TFW's part is backfiring BADLY. Not only do most of the articles show really horrendous photos of her and are not favorable in their report, but they don't even mention her new book coming out. Instead they mention RH's book. And the comments are 'scathingly' against her. Hey TFW...would you like a little water for that 'burn'?
Fortunately, I was never a child of divorce, but I understand the effects can be long lasting. I can't begin to imagine what Kate is going to put those kids through. What they've had to endure has been awful.The public and very acrimonious divorce of their parents WHILE FILMING, then the constant poo flinging from both parents on every trash show out there, magazine stories authorized and not and now this.
I don't understand this at all. She claims to have money troubles but she has money for lawyers. Even if she wins against Jon she can't get $5000 or $5 million if he doesn't have it. He can be forced to pay a monthly amount but it won't possibly solve her troubles.It's really amazing how her hatred of him supercedes everything in her life including any love she might have for her kids.For those talking about jail time, it's a civil suit. You can't go to jail for a civil suit.Which county did she file in? I live in Montgomery County and recently postponed my service for vacation. I would love to hear this one.
This woman has no life....even with 8 kids. Pathetic.I wonder if Steve's wife finally grew a pair and took her husband back.
Brenda Schuettler @sweetbren66 10m@onedirection @Kateplusmy8 I am taking my niece to the movie this weekend. #MadyIsWelcomeToComeToo my niece loves #Harry rubbing off on me###############Oh sure...Kate will have Mady ready for pick-up by SweetBren to see a movie with her and her niece.
Does this mean that the two of them aren't going to get together to film a TLC special?Darn...I was so looking forward to it!
she must've read in the People that Jon took his kids out for all you eat shrimp and must've realized that he still had some dollars in his pockets where she didn't get her sticky fingers on.....yet!
Auntieann> That is puzzling, how did BV get those texts. Are they not private too, if Kate gave them too BV, then she did the same thing, she is accusing Jon & Robert of doing. Where did she or BV get the texts from? Another thing, where did she get that pic of Jon wearing the Asian outfit, when she said that pic of her doing the Asian eyes was stolen and Jon pic was part of that pic set. If all of this is on that hard drive(which I think is more of on a disc), then Kate still has her hard drive, and all the info on it. Robert has the disc. This does not sound right.
Admin@ 145*****************My guess for TFMJG's password would be I love Steve, Steve is the best, Steve,Steve,Steve, Sexy Steve, Sexy Momma of 8 count 'em 8 kids.I am sure if he did figure out her password it was quite easy for him. I really feel like Robert is telling the truth on how he obtained the disk. Remember on the show she threw out sentimental things from Jon's dad and stuff the kids made and didn't bat an eye. I would imagine she sent the not a housekeeper up to the apt and instructed her to bag everything that was left and throw it out. Typical Kate!
Well, the timing is interesting. This comes out a week after being portrayed as the perfect mom struggling to raise 8 (yes, count them EIGHT!) kids and but still have fun, fun, shrieking with delight, the kids never want to leave the compound. Someone on ROL brought up the fact that Jon was rumored to be on DWTS. While I don’t think that is true, just imagine if he was one of the contestants. What better way to assassinate his character than file a lawsuit a week before announcing the new contestants.
"Kate Gosselin Files Multi-Count Lawsuit Against Ex-Husband Jon and His Business Partner"*******************************I'm really not in the loop about Jon's relationship to Robert, but what kind of business were they in together?
" I'm not the same person I was" Maybe her lawyers told her to get her act together and pretend to be nicer, better person and mom in order to help her case. I would like to know details when they go to court but I bet it will be kept private unless it is something in her favor which then she will sell the story to tabloids
I think Kate took advantage of the court of public opinion one too many times.Let's face it, she and TLC did a pretty good job of convincing us that Jon was a bum and deadbeat dad. Many people bought into it. Fair enough. But that was 2008. We're in 2013 now, and he really hasn't done much to warrant such continued treatment. He's kept a steady girlfriend, won more custody, and for the most part stayed quiet and his latest interview made him look, overall, quite stable and focused on priorities. She wanted us to kick a dog when he's down, and people weren't okay with that.The comments on the People article show that the general public is sick of her. She asked for our good graces one too many times. She took advantage of our willingness to take her side one too many times. She also cried poor too many times and won't get a real job, and in this economy, that doesn't sit well with people.The thing is, the public WILL form a lynch mob if they feel it's warranted. BUT, they will take BACK that lynch mob just as fast if they suddenly decide it's gone too far. Kate's problem is she thought the lynch mob, the pitch forks and torches, would always be there for her as she went after Jon. Only, we've put that all away now and moved on. And now it's turned on HER. She looks like the nut here, not anyone else. The court of public opinion may be nasty at times, but they are often right on the money too.She misread this situation to an embarrassing degree. Nobody hates Jon anymore except a few fans. If he "stole" a hard drive, or discs, or what have you, the time to address it was when it happened, privately. Waiting just weeks until a book is about to come out makes it look like a shameful publicity stunt. It took the public a LONG time, too long, but they wised up, and no one is buying her snake oil anymore. It's finally happened. Karma is finally here. This has backfired and will continue to backfire, and the only thing she will be left with on her deathbed is estranged children. Perhaps many of us won't even be around to see that day, and no matter, because that will be Kate's problem.I just feel really, really sorry for these kids. It's not fair to have to deal with a mother like this. And it won't end once they're adults either. This is a lifelong problem they will have, whether they choose to cut her off or not.
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This is a publicity stunt.I just can't see Jon spurning Kate's offer to mediate things and patch things up between them.I don't think she'll stop until she ruins him. He hasn't really said anything about her in public in years, so why try to drag him down now and why no prior arrests if indeed he broke so many laws?I hope that there's at least a chance a judge throws this out. Some of what her lawyer alleges in the complaint sounds just juvenile and contrived without logic.It's a real shotgun approached, that's for sure.She's hoping something, anything will stick.
Lets hope the Court dismisses her case as frivolous claims without proof and makes her pay damages to Jon and Robert. Enough is enough! I do think someone was right when they said she is probably trying to alienate Jon from his children and the only way to do it is to have him jailed. This way she can head out to California and become Kendras next door neighbor. Her actions make me sick to my stomach. Admin said: It would be cheaper for Jon to just pay the 5 grand in damages she wants. Sure he could get an attorney and scrape together every last cent that should have been used to provide for his children. But what about the next time she sues and the next? She will never stop. The only way to stop her is for the other party not to engage. She needs therapy not lawyers. I've said this before, lawsuits don't make it better. While sometimes they are necessary, usually they just add to your problems. Is she looking for that "feeling" she will get when Jon is finally buried? Is that what she wants? Does she know that for most people they report that feeling wasn't as good as they thought it was and that it doesn't change what happened? She sure needs help." You Are so Right and you can read her like a book.
You know what I keep thinking. She needs to get a job. Just get a job.If she had a job, especially a new job, she'll find herself so busy and tired between that and the kids she wouldn't have time to worry herself over all this stuff. She could focus less on her obsessive need to get even with Jon, and more on positive things like work and kids. I think she would be a lot healthier mentally. Some people do fine not working. She is not one of them. She needs to be kept busy. She is truly the epitome of idle hands are the devil's workshop.Look, in life, sometimes we are wronged. I can think of half a dozen things that have happened to me I COULD have sued for but never did. It's not worth my time, energy, worry and certainty not my hard earned money. Forgive and forget is just easier. I am in no way saying people shouldn't sue if they are legitimately wronged. Absolutely, go for it. But any good attorney will always advise you to do some real soul searching first and really ask yourself if you want to put yourself through this and what you want out of it. If what you want out of it is to just prove a point you may end up very dissatisfied, and surely out of a lot of cash. Our American court system is not like T.V. Cases aren't wrapped up in an hour and on T.V. no one mentions their $550 an hour fees. Lawyers are magically paid and cases magically move in and out and justice is magically done. Not the real world. If we went around suing every single time the opportunity was there we'd all go broke. Perhaps she was "wronged" with these discs or whatever it was. But you can go around trying to exact revenge and even the score against every single thing or you will go crazy. Is THIS incident really worth it? Is THIS worth the children's money paying all these bills? Is THIS really worth the stress? Normal people would get MUCH more out of this in terms of feeling some closure with this incident if she would simply call Jon up, invite him to lunch and hash this all out. Heck if a normal person did this they might end up shaking his hand and even giving him a hug at the end of it all, everything resolved. It's amazing what you can work out over lunch.People had more or less forgotten Robert's book. Now a whole new crop of people will know. Is that the intent of this?
I'm watching a rerun of "Raising Hope" and Hope's grandmother dressed her up with logos on her clothes for advertisement. She was told that the child is not a race car!I've always thought Kate used her kids as billboards.
I wonder if their lawyers will file a demurrer for failure to state a cause of action and ask for a summary dismissal. Then it will all be over with before they ever get to court. For instance belly aching about the garbage? Since it's legal in PA, where is your cause of action there? Boo hoo someone went through my garbage. I wouldn't like it either, but that doesn't make it illegal. I shred important documents with a 29.99 buck shredder from Staples. Be an adult and take reasonable precautions with such things and you won't have to cry about perfectly legal activities three years later.
Robert's book pointed out two things that don't seem to go away: that Kate abused Colin and that she abused animals. People on this blog frequently make reference to these two points so they definitely have staying power. I think Kate believes these two things alone have 'ruined' her chances at stardom in LA. Yes, they are nasty points but how is she ever going to reclaim her reputation with a lawsuit? Also add in the fact it was confirmed that she was a major grifter, a jealous bitch who wanted the limelight to stay on her and not some other family of multiples and her demanding personality. Good luck trying to wipe the slate clean with those little gems circling you like a deer fly. Hah!
I think Kate will try to prove Jon conspired to steal Kate's hard drive vis a vis text messages.Can't imagine Hailey Glassman isn't going to get dragged into this.I hope she sues Kate for harassment!
Tucker's Mom said... 156I think Kate will try to prove Jon conspired to steal Kate's hard drive vis a vis text messages.Can't imagine Hailey Glassman isn't going to get dragged into this.I hope she sues Kate for harassment!______Also Hailey has something that Jon doesn't have and it's money.I bet the Glassman family has a good lawyer and good stories about KK.
Lets hope the Court dismisses her case as frivolous claims without proof and makes her pay damages to Jon and Robert.***************************And that it's dismissed with prejudice.
I always thought those text messages were too perfect. First I'm gonna do this then do that and the murder weapon is under the armoire in the red bedroom, I hope no one dusts the mantel for fingerprints where I left them! Gimme a break. Plus they only prove if true the idea was being considered, not that it actually happened. And why did Hailey run scared from it and threaten to sue Kate if she used them if they were so true? What's she so afraid of?Not to mention, text messages are hard to get into evidence, although it's possible. The problem is, it's hard to authenticate them unless the person admit is--i.e. prove that you actually sent them.For instance, we know Hailey had her issues with Jon. He could have left his phone on the counter while showering and she could have taken it and sent the text messages herself.That scenario is obviously not likely, but the other side will surely be objecting and from an attorney standpoint, you have to figure out a way around that to even get these things into evidence in the first place. Email comes with the same problems. You can have all the damning emails in the world but unless you can prove who sent them, they're worthless.
If secret bank accounts come out in this mess, can the division of assets in the divorce be revisited? Somehow she thinks she will always win. The attorneys she has now are not the same caliber as Laverne and Shirley. Why is she demanding a jury for a civil matter?
Paper yes. I think the problem Kate will have is that she can't show damages. None of what happened to her can really be strongly tied to this incident.Plus most tellingly, ABC which is a very family friendly network and will fire people in a heartbeat, had no problem keeping Kate on board right after the incident came out. If even ABC won't fire you how can you possibly say this has hurt her? She gets work, she gets on the cover of People. Not a single person has said oh Kate I won't hire her because of the child abuse. While I find that rather sad, it sure does leave her case dead in the water.CC and the Stir didn't even so much as HINT that any of their firing had anything to do with the book. In hindsight it was rather wise of Scott to write that letter and lay out exactly why she was fired. That letter makes it crystal clear it was Kate's OWN ACTIONS that promoted it, and had absolutely nothing, zero, to do with any fan, non-fan, Robert, Jon, or anyone else outside of Kate herself.Again, the book could have been forgotten by now if she just let it be.
If you look at the ABC article, there's a picture of them at the vow renewal (do not let me get started on that one!). TFW clearly before she bought the good bras, and that always makes me laugh.But I also think karma may finally be here too. The fickle court of public opinion does not support her anger fueled decisions, and after 5 years are tired of her bringing her dirty laundry out again, and again. She does not care to work, and now she is spending even more of the childrens' money in a legal rage against their father. Better she spent that money of a summer vacation for them and extensive therapy for her. The comments don't lie. Her fan base are a few college students and those whackjobs Milo & Goody. She has bought everyone else.I truly hope she gets reamed in any interview on that specious book tour, because we all know she is only carefully prepared to umm her way through questions about canned beans. Maybe Skeevio will have to protect her like he did in LA. She deserves nothing less after this horrid action.
I hope she has her jury. A jury in PA? The one state that really has her number. What is she thinking? She's going to be face to face with tax payers who have funded her lifestyle and her little whims for years. So yeah good luck with that.
For instance belly aching about the garbage? Since it's legal in PA, where is your cause of action there? Boo hoo someone went through my garbage. I wouldn't like it either, but that doesn't make it illegal. I shred important documents with a 29.99 buck shredder from Staples**w***TFW jumps before she looks. She does not care HOW things turn out as long as she can get it done fast. That's why she stabs at the food she's cooking, slaps sandwiches together, literally throws pancakes onto plates, used to brush the kids' hair and teeth in a very rough and haphazard way. She just moves without any kind of forethought or gentle spirit. She does twitter the same way, IMO.This lawsuit seems to be the same kind of quickaction without any taking time to do the right thing in a reasonable manner.
The fickle court of public opinion does not support her anger fueled decisions, and after 5 years are tired of her bringing her dirty laundry out again, and again&&&Exactly!The same thing happened to Paula Deen at a much faster rate. People HATED her. For about a week. Then it felt like piling on. People started to feel bad. People started to feel like, while this is horrific, there is no need to pile on. The point was made, now let the woman have her day in court. Back off. It had nothing to do with feeling like she was right and everything to do with wanting the punishment to fit the crime. This is exactly what is happening here. My impression of what I have read of the "public opinion" is this: Sure Kate yes you were right Jon WAS a deadbeat. Absolutely. But now you've gone too far with it and that's not cool so knock it off. The punishment does not fit the crime. He's just a deadbeat, not Jeffrey Dorner. There is no reason to PILE ON."She pushed it. She got greedy with our good graces. And it's not working anymore. Good on the public.
I like what John and Ken say whenever some public figure complains about how WRONGED he or she was. They just said it again with the San Diego mayor who was blaming the media and his political adversaries and so on.They said wait a minute YOU sexually assaulted those women not US. How is it OUR fault?! No, YOU DID IT! Oh and they called him a sociopathic narcissist.WE didn't make Kate hit or children or abuse her animals. Most of us actually LIKED her back then or the show anyway. SHE abused her children and her animals, not us.
Kate's need for vengeance is SO over the top.The glee of the sheeple egging her on says a lot about them.One word that comes to mind is misandryMy heart hurts for those poor children.The Lord bless them and keep them. May they know that their Father and their father care about them.Clearly their gestational carrier does not.My
It is very telling these fans support such a thing. I would have the same reaction if Jon sued. Stop it. Enough. How does this help? Enough already. MOVE ON. I even said that about LaFaire. There's really no point in suing, as right as she may be. Move on and live your life, it's not going to help you to sue.No one of these fans thinks about how this hurts others. They just think about vengeance.
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