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It's just to easy!
It was one question on an obscure TV show, asked in passing, brought up no doubt because Kate was on DWTS. it's been recycled on even more arcane websites, with some "sources" adding fuel to the fire.
Remember, dear sheeple, that unless you hear it from Kate or Jon, it's not true.
Duh.
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The fans and Kate's lawyers claim that Jon and Hoffman destroyed Kate. When did this happen? They keep gloating and saying that Kate's winning, Kate just keeps on going and going and going...and then, suddenly, she's destroyed. What date did that happen? I'd like to mark my calendar.
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I want to know this as well.
And then Goody say's that Jon is trying to put a nail in Kate's coffin since 09'?
Okayyyy it's 2013 how long does it take to put a nail in someone's coffin?
Gymnastics, music lessons, team sports? The kids have gone without any of that so far, might as well deny them forever. At least, that's what the fans seem to think.
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I believe that at least one of the kids does take music lessons and is involved in team sports, and one is involved in drama. There's still time for the younger ones if they are interested.
I think that the non-fans are totally poking at the fans with a sharp stick and the fans are taking the bait...especially Goody. Why can't the fans see this? The big DM between all the non-fans was probably about using Jon's picture and acting as if they have inside info on his being on DWTS. It's all rather funny to watch.
I believe that at least one of the kids does take music lessons and is involved in team sports, and one is involved in drama. There's still time for the younger ones if they are interested.
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Glad to know the twins are still doing what they love, but I feel most sorry for the tup boys. If they haven't been involved in sports by now, their skills will never compete with anyone their own age. Plus, they're forced to hang out with their sisters constantly which just isn't healthy.
If Jon hasn't insisted that the boys get involved in Scouts or sports, then shame on him. Every Dad I know goes crazy over sharing and teaching sports with their boys. Most start at 3-4 with T-ball and soccer.
But, they have their "memories" on dvd, so there's that.
@msgoody2shoes21: Sorry folks, but having a deadbeat dad that doesn't pay child support on a family show boggles my mind & doesn't seem right. @ABC_Publicity
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She's always calling Jon a deadbeat dad and now she's tweeting it to ABC. Couldn't Jon go after her for this?
It looks like one of the fans maybe got MsGoody calmed down:
Ann @ IW @Ann_IW
@msgoody2shoes21 Hey Ms. Goody, don't you think it would be nice for Jon to make some money and pay back that C/S?
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21
@Ann_IW Yes! But at what cost 2Kate? I honestly think Jon would create more drama 4 Kate 2hire lawyers, thereby negating any $ recd frm Jon
Ann @ IW @Ann_IW
@msgoody2shoes21 IDK, I think he'd get better scores, &it would boost his ego. IMO he needs the boost. I'd like them to get along.
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21
@Ann_IW I would LOVE for them to get along. But every time Kate thinks things are OK w/ Jon, he's plotting against her. I've no respect 4Jon
Ann @ IW @Ann_IW
@msgoody2shoes21 I know. Can't say I respect him. IMO he was behind some hate. IMO he will improve if his $$ situation improves.
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21
@Ann_IW I want you 2know I don't want 4Kate 2miss any money for kids earned by Jon. I just don't thimk Jon should be rewarded 4bad behavior
Ann @ IW @Ann_IW
@msgoody2shoes21 I understand & respect your position. I agree with your principle. I do. It is a good general rule...1/2 (cont.)
Ann @ IW @Ann_IW
@msgoody2shoes21 2/2 I tend to make all sorts of exceptions for particular circumstances when I make my opinions tho. IMO, DWTS will help J.
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21
@Ann_IW LOL! If Jon makes it to #DWTS he'll plot against Kate because she'll get his money after back taxes and he'll have another tantrum.
Ann @ IW @Ann_IW
@msgoody2shoes21 If he is good & wins, there will be enough for kids & him. Kate doesn't need it. I'll vote 4 him. I am an optimist!
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21
@Ann_IW Well, every time I think Jon has changed for the better he likes to bite when you're not looking. He can't be trusted.
MsGoody2Shoes21 @msgoody2shoes21
@Ann_IW I will take a chill pill about Jon & #DWTS. I'll wait and see. I do want the best for the sole financial supporter of 8 children.
I doubt the boys have time for sports. They have to cater to...I mean take care of momma:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@Mydmaxx and SO helpful! I'm so thankful for all my kids but my boys sure take care of their momma these days!:)
Who ever thought it was a good idea to get the sheeple all riled up with starting a rumor that Jon was going to be on DWTS is just making Jon look like an idiot. It pisses me off when people don't think first. Sheeple are stupid enough we don't need to help them
http://thestir.cafemom.com/entertainment/158010/jon_gosselin_on_dwts_season
She's always calling Jon a deadbeat dad and now she's tweeting it to ABC. Couldn't Jon go after her for this?
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And she'll be the first one to decry that Kate's haters made her lose work. BULLYVILLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 184
I don't remember seeing this on MsGoody's Twitter profile before:
I'm with Smith and Wesson! LOL
I wonder if she just added it?
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No, she's had that on her profile for quite a while.
She's on a one-woman campaign tweeting ABC and DWTS about Jon. She's sent them about 8 tweets so far. She's really just showing how obsessed she is with anything about Jon. She definitely needs some anger management.
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How is tweeting ABC and DWTS any different than all the non-fans contacting anyone associated with Kate (sponsors, etc.) and threatening to boycott? Were those people just showing how obsessed they are with Kate?
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@Mydmaxx and SO helpful! I'm so thankful for all my kids but my boys sure take care of their momma these days!:)
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God, that's fucked up.
How is tweeting ABC and DWTS any different than all the non-fans contacting anyone associated with Kate (sponsors, etc.) and threatening to boycott? Were those people just showing how obsessed they are with Kate?
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It's not different, it's the same.
They can't have it both ways. You can't call Jon a deadbeat dad, then try you best to take away a lucrative gig.
I don't think they'll grasp that concept though because it makes too much sense.
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@msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8. Hey Kate! Love the nail color! Can you share what color it is?
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What is a partial Kate Gosselin hair situation?
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Who ever thought it was a good idea to get the sheeple all riled up with starting a rumor that Jon was going to be on DWTS is just making Jon look like an idiot. It pisses me off when people don't think first. Sheeple are stupid enough we don't need to help them
http://thestir.cafemom.com/entertainment/158010/jon_gosselin_on_dwts_season
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Jon started the rumor himself when he went on Naughty by Nice Rob's entertainment show and answered questions about whether he'd ever go on DWTS. Not exactly sure how it proceeded from there.
Also, good luck with telling DWTS not to have Jon because he's a bad person. HA!!!!!!!!
There have been contestants with rap sheets and severe addiction problems. Andy Dick is well known for his public urination. Top that!
Jon is milquetoast in comparison.
Get a more compelling argument.
She's always calling Jon a deadbeat dad and now she's tweeting it to ABC. Couldn't Jon go after her for this?
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There's so much she has said and done that Jon could go after. I think it would be an open and shut case. She doesn't know when to shut up, or if she does, it just doesn't sink in. She'll overstep the boundaries one of these days and all hell is going to break loose.
Glad to know the twins are still doing what they love, but I feel most sorry for the tup boys. If they haven't been involved in sports by now, their skills will never compete with anyone their own age.
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I'm going to respectfully disagree. Mine didn't participate in sports at that age (showed no interest so I didn't push them), and when they got to middle school, all that changed. They not only excelled, but they won multiple awards/trophies, and were the top players on their respective teams. They just had to wait for the sports bug to bite -- and it did, big time!
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Cool!
I hope the boys get to be involved in sports, but get the feeling that Kate automatically dismisses getting more kids involved in outside activities because that would cut into her "me" time. Plus, the boys' job is taking care of Kate, evidently.
Not exactly sure how it proceeded from there.
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The sheep should have just ignored it, but now there is an increasing amount of attention given to Jon's bid to get on DWTS because they are bleeting very loudly.
Good work, sheeple! Keep it up!
(still don't want to see Jon back on TV myself)
Goodness gracious! I think there is a long line of CURRENT reality TV pseudo celebs who would beg to be on DWTS and be picked over someone who has not been on TV or in the public consciousness for years.
What is a partial Kate Gosselin hair situation?
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It's Molly Ringwald with Kate's reverse mullet!
Jon started the rumor himself when he went on Naughty by Nice Rob's entertainment show and answered questions about whether he'd ever go on DWTS. Not exactly sure how it proceeded from there.
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Jon was asked by one of the hosts if he would ever return to reality tv, say for instance, DWTS. Jon replied yes and that he thinks he could beat Kate. He probably said the whole thing as a joke.
The sheeple then started saying that it proved that Jon was begging to be on DWTS and proceeded to bash him more. The non-fans then returned with the rumor that Jon was asked to be on the show.
So it's just them fighting back and forth about something that was most likely a joke by Jon. Just like when he said he lived in the woods and had no address. The sheeple took it literally and said that was endangering the children by not having an address because his house couldn't be found in an emergency.
All Jon said was yeah sure I'd be interested in DWTS. Hundreds of celebs before him have put out the same exact feeler. I have no idea why it got people so riled up. They can freak out if he ever gets on which I doubt.
Jon answered several questions that Rob asked about DWTS. Jon said yeah, he thought he could beat Kate. Looks like the video isn't available anymore. But it wasn't the gist of the show, just a little something in passing.
Jon had a dry, self deprecating sense of humor but for some reason the sheeple take everything he says so darn seriously. At least his sense of humor isn't dependent on the expense of others all the time.
I don't think the Gosselin boys are very interested in sports. This is probably due to Kate curtailing any 'dirty' activities such as rolling on grass or running the bases at that game they attended. A couple don't like water and as mentioned, they still use floaties. But they run with Mommy, right? Maybe they will come into their own, but I agree they will be 'behind' their peers unless naturally athletic. Sports start so early for kids here- hockey age 4, T-ball and soccer age 5 etc.Scouts would be great for them- REAL camping and outdoor skills among other activities.
So it's just them fighting back and forth about something that was most likely a joke by Jon. Just like when he said he lived in the woods and had no address. The sheeple took it literally and said that was endangering the children by not having an address because his house couldn't be found in an emergency.
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I saw that! The fans sure aren't shy about showing their stupidity, but then if they're that stupid I guess they don't realize it.
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 18
Glad to know the twins are still doing what they love, but I feel most sorry for the tup boys. If they haven't been involved in sports by now, their skills will never compete with anyone their own age.
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I'm going to respectfully disagree. Mine didn't participate in sports at that age (showed no interest so I didn't push them), and when they got to middle school, all that changed. They not only excelled, but they won multiple awards/trophies, and were the top players on their respective teams. They just had to wait for the sports bug to bite -- and it did, big time!
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Not around here, today. Unless you are exceptionally talented, you have to have not only have done sports since a young age but the expensive travel teams to make the middle school team. Rec soccer kids do not generally make the team. Middle and high school coaches scout out the travel teams. The exceptions are things with no-cut like track or football (although my daughter's middle school even cut for track and cross country). :(
Now their private school may be different and more inclusive but that's the way Chester County public schools are.
Unless you are exceptionally talented, you have to have not only have done sports since a young age but the expensive travel teams to make the middle school team
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Agree. Our niece plays soccer and has been on a traveling team for years, and it's brutal. I can not fathom Kate supporting this like her parents do. It is sacrifice, but, I bet it's going to get her a full ride in college.
Motor skills start early. For example, I never skied until and adult, and I suck at it, while watching 6-year olds breeze by me.
As a mom of four sons, every Saturday (and sometimes other days) was taken up with sports activities of some kind. Practice during the week, etc. I certainly hope the Gosselin kids are given the choice if they would like to participate, however it seems they do not. My children began T-ball at the age of 6. We live in a great school district that encourages sports and if you don't make the official team, you can participate in school clubs, intramural sports, etc.
If I was using twitter, I would tweet how to get to this website, once every day, then maybe the fans could read all about her here, because they sure have no knowledge about their idol.
Agree. It would be unusual for a child to excel starting this late. IMO the kids may have already missed the boat.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@Mydmaxx and SO helpful! I'm so thankful for all my kids but my boys sure take care of their momma these days!:)
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First of all,I don't really believe the sentiment expressed in this tweet, as if Kate's sons are "taking care of" things around the house. They are still young boys, and should be doing much more than simple chores such as taking out the garbage, keeping their rooms clean, helping with basic household chores (setting the table for dinner, carrying a bag of groceries in from the car, etc.).
But more importantly, they are too young to be "taking care of" anyone, especially their mom. It's mom who is supposed to be taking care of them. Is Kate in her dotage? Is she approaching 80 and needs her grown sons to take care of her? No and no. So I find this comment plain annoying. These children have never been allowed to be simply themselves, just kids.
Now their private school may be different and more inclusive but that's the way Chester County public schools are.
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Private schools here are different. Unless those kids are really interested in sports right now, there is no need to rush them into competitive sports. They will have every opportunity to play at a competitive level when they are in middle school and high school. There is no scouting done. Kids will get to play on their school team without feeling pressured to be the best because coaches have looked at other teams and want only those who excel on their team. They will all be on the team. Who knows...maybe they aren't interested in sports. Time will tell.
I think it's rather sad that it seems that if children have not participated in a sport or sports from a very young age - then that leaves them out when they get older.
For a variety of reasons (#1 being my financial situation and #2 my sanity), I did not have my son participate in a lot of sports at a young age. He did T-ball and one year of Little League (which was a disappointment. The league he was in, the dads who coached focused almost exclusively on their sons and the heck with the rest of the kids). He had swimming lessons for several summers in a row. We went to the local courts and played basketball together. We rode bikes together. And when he was a bit older, he got a skateboard, and then a rip stick. So he had plenty of activities, but not ones that required weekly practice sessions, fees for equipment and uniforms, and every Saturday taken up by going to soccer matches, baseball games, etc.
As a single parent, who works full time outside the home, our family time was very precious. I did not want to spend every Saturday rushing him out of bed and off to a game or another sporting event. I wanted our Saturdays to be leisurely when they could, watch cartoons together, have a nice breakfast, and then spend the afternoons either with friends, family or just us two, doing something fun, like going to the beach, the redwoods, or etc.
So I have no regrets on keeping my son out of organized sports until he was older. He now plays football on his high school team, and does track. I have no illusions that he will get a college scholarship based on his sports ability -- but he will probably get some scholarship based on his scholastic ability.
However, I will say that most kids are involved in organized sports from a very young age - so if a kid wants to spend time with his friends, he or she might only get to do so by joining that same sport. It can put undue pressure on parents with limited financial means, but that's just how life is these days. Everyone must take the path that works best for them and their child.
I think Jon's comment about DWTS was probably made in a joking fashion, considering he said he could probably do better than Kate did. That's his mild way of pushing back against all the nasty insinuations she makes about him.
That being said, I am doubtful that DWTS will reach out to Jon, because he's been out of the limelight for awhile and appears to want to be a "regular guy", not a celebrity trying to get back into the spotlight. A lot of has beens go on DWTS to rehab their image and hopefully get a gig out of it. I really didn't know anything about Emmit Smith before he was on DWTS. Since then, I am a huge fan. I already loved Jerry Rice, but gained even greater respect for him after his stint on the program. I think Kirstie Alley is a kook, but at least she worked her behind off to do well.
On the other hand, I knew little about Wendy Williams and had an open mind about her. Now I think she's strikingly similar to Kate and so her time on DWTS did her no good and in fact probably worked against her.
I don't think it's sad. It's something positive for kids to do. There's so much emphasis on schoolwork these days it's nice to let them get out there with friends and just play ball.
Millicent agree. The boys are far too young to be burdened with having to "look after" their mother. I hope they don't feel such a burden.
I think I'm defending the kids here and not Kate, but I looked at the pool picture and didn't see any of them with floaties. To me floaties are those little blow up things you wear on your arms. I saw pool noodles ( we have them) and I saw a couple of tubes. One of the boys was floating in a tube. Was it because he can't swim well or because he was just lazing around in the pool? I don't know but I'm going to give the kids the benefit of the doubt on this. As a mother I have to believe that for her peace of mind and the kids' safety that all can swim.
And if not ball, how about something like tae-kwon-do? I find is truly sad that it appears these kids, unless at school or at a school sponsored sports activity, spend all their free time interacting with each other. My son, who only had sisters, had the best time at summer day camp with older counselors and campers. They don't have to be overscheduled but it appears that they are barely scheduled. Oh, I forgot vacation bible school, but there is no valid reason that their lazy ass cheap mother could not give them a few summer weeks of camp or sports outside the compound. I suspect the reason that Jon does not have the boys in sports activities is that the she-wolf would use that time to compromise his free time with the boys.
SaraMRN...Thanks for the link to the Elizabethtown house. From the outside to the inside, it doesn't even look like the same house. It looks bigger. I love the paint colors they choose and the decorating. They did a nice job.
I don't think it's sad. It's something positive for kids to do. There's so much emphasis on schoolwork these days it's nice to let them get out there with friends and just play ball.
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I think Millicent was talking about organized sports, not that kids shouldn't go out and spend time playing ball with their friends or a parent. I agree. So many parents pressure on their kids to play sports because the "other" kids are doing it. It's become a contest -- who can play better, who can make the team, my kid is better than your kid. Same goes for dance, gymnastics, Scouts, music lessons...kids are burned out with rigorous schedules by the time they even get to middle school. Let them be kids. If they want to play sports, fine, if not, they'll find something else that interests them. Elementary school children shouldn't worry about getting a college football scholarship just because they didn't play sports when they were in second grade..
Well said, Millicent. I agree with your sediments on this!
But more importantly, they are too young to be "taking care of" anyone, especially their mom. It's mom who is supposed to be taking care of them. Is Kate in her dotage? Is she approaching 80 and needs her grown sons to take care of her? No and no. So I find this comment plain annoying. These children have never been allowed to be simply themselves, just kids.
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In the episode where Kate takes the boys to see the battleship, she goes on and on asking her boys if they will take care of her. That was in 2009. They've had at least 4 years of having to listen to that garbage.
Instilling respect for one's parents is one thing, brainwashing them from the time they're hardly out of toddler-hood that mom needs taking care of is cruel and detremental to their development.
I wonder if she has them bringing her coffee in the morning yet?
Excuse me to whomever thinks that the sheeple are stupid for talking about Jon being on DWTS. People have been talking about here for 2 days and I for one am not stupid, thank you very much!
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SaraMRN...Thanks for the link to the Elizabethtown house. From the outside to the inside, it doesn't even look like the same house. It looks bigger
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I wonder if the owners will leave that darn piano behind!
Bigger= they took the peninsula cabinets out of the kitchen. Huge improvement as they were way too low. J+K had to duck to see.
I like peninsulas and had them put in my new kitchen, but they're not full length and there's no visual block.
They don't have to be overscheduled but it appears that they are barely scheduled. Oh, I forgot vacation bible school, but there is no valid reason that their lazy ass cheap mother could not give them a few summer weeks of camp or sports outside the compound.
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Summer camp would be great for these kids. If she doesn't want to send them to overnight camp for a week or so, even day camp would be fun. Of course, she may have it planned for them and just isn't saying anything about it (for security reasons), but I honestly doubt it. The twins would love a horseback riding camp -- there are several not too far away, but far enough away from home (in the Poconos or in Virginia). They certainly are old enough to spend several weeks in the summer at such a camp.
I wonder if she has them bringing her coffee in the morning yet?
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I just hope that Kate hasn't recruited the boys to massage her. That's going to amount to years of therapy!
I think I'm defending the kids here and not Kate, but I looked at the pool picture and didn't see any of them with floaties. To me floaties are those little blow up things you wear on your arms. I saw pool noodles ( we have them) and I saw a couple of tubes.
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I agree. We have noodles and tubes and our kids are very good swimmers. They like them to relax on, or just hang on them in the deep water when they don't feel like swimming. Same goes with rafts. I'm betting those kids still don't swim with tubes because they have to have them to stay afloat.
It's a beautiful home and they could have stayed there and had many happy years there without the hassle and cost of the new property. Too bad.
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It's a beautiful home and they could have stayed there and had many happy years there without the hassle and cost of the new property. Too bad.
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The home could have easily been added on to, but Kate's goal was to isolate her family for filming. Those awful neighbors who would complain about the constant filming were just cramping her style.
Fungirl, yes, we're talking about Jon and DWTS but so far, none of us has a dog in this hunt and are not getting all lathered up about it. I have my opinion about Jon getting back on TV, but I'm in no "camp" and will not care either way, ultimately.
The sheep on the other hand, are completely apoplectic, and it's funny!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 50
It's a beautiful home and they could have stayed there and had many happy years there without the hassle and cost of the new property. Too bad.
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Absolutely, Admin. The location is great, close to many things, not too far from the school, large backyard but not too large that landscaping cost is going to kill you, much lower taxes than she's paying now, everything you would need in a house. If the square footage wasn't enough for her, she could have put on an addition. It's on a cul-de-sac, so there's very little traffic past there. It's right off 283 east to Lancaster and west to Hershey and Harrisburg. There is also room for a pool if she really wanted one.
My mind just does NOT want to even think of what KK is expecting her boys to do in order to ''my boys sure take care of their momma these days!:)'' Does it mean that not only are they doing all the boy's work now, but are waiting on KK hand and foot? That is the LEAST objectionable thing I could come up with....I forced my mind to just stop thinking about the entire comment!
I wonder if the fans realize that they cost Kate more in terms of potential income than the non-fans ever could. CJ cost her the cruise by vetting everyone who expressed an interest. MsGoody could prevent Kate from getting past child support from Jon by harassing ABC. Kate is unemployed right now. No shows, no blogs, no running. Not even the Bella Bars thing. I don't think she has a lot of money stashed away. At least, not millions. I don't think she'd borrow money against the house if she had money. I do think she's travel more with the kids (who have certainly shown interest) if she could afford it. She probably needs all the money she can get. And the fans won't let her get her hands on any.
When the fans hound networks to give Kate a show, they can be...overwhelming. I can just see some network exec reading those creepy tweets from Milo and thinking they don't want to touch that kind of fanaticism with a 10-foot pole. The fans predicted that all the non-fans would buy the cookbook. Yet they stir up so much negative emotion that the thought of buying that thing is distasteful, not only to non-fans but to others who are neither fans nor non-fans. If they'd relax a bit and not add to the negative controversy surrounding Kate, then she might make more progress. but they just can't help themselves. In the long run, it's the kids who lose as a result.
Ms Goody loves to call others haters, but I have never seen such venomous hatred from anyone else involved. Ever. She is just consumed with hate, and can't seem to look beyond her fury to see what kind of damage she is causing Kate and the kids.
Wendy Williams has a daily talk show and is very popular.
The home could have easily been added on to, but Kate's goal was to isolate her family for filming. Those awful neighbors who would complain about the constant filming were just cramping her style.
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There was more to it than isolating her family for filming. There were zoning issues. It's zoned residential; they were using it for commercial purposes. They got out before things got messy with the zoning board. Remember she had planned to film until the kids graduated from high school...and beyond.
Fungirl, yes, we're talking about Jon and DWTS but so far, none of us has a dog in this hunt and are not getting all lathered up about it.
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There's no need to get all bent out of shape because of something he said in an interview. Those on Twitter just took it and ran with it and it's ballooned to where the haters and sheep are arguing over where the money would go if he were a contestant. Nothing like making a mountain out of a molehill from a rumor that was started on Twitter! But I guess it's just one more thing for them to fight about on the Twitter battleground!
I agree that the E-town house looks larger and much more tastefully decorated. Also am 'in agreance' that the G's could have added on and lived there comfortably.
Re: floaties. On second glance I can see they are indeed noodles. I think last year though they did have the arm floaties and at least one boy would not go in the water at all, if not two.
I think the present owners should stay, too. That house is plenty big enough for them and they have decorated it beautifully!
I must agree that the Elizabeth town house would have been plenty big enough. They could have made additional rooms in the basement. Kate thought she was a celebrity and no celebrity would live in that house. (At least in her mind) I really do think Kate thought filming would continue forever or that she would be able to continue to work in television. You know she does have the gift of gab.... At any rate, the new owners did a great job redecorating. I love the colors and what they did with the kitchen. It makes it so much more open. As far as the piano goes, I thought they moved it to the new house. If not I would be p*ssed if I was the company who donated it to the Gosselin's. I really can't imagine the queen grifter leaving such an expensive piece. Selling it yes, but leaving it for the new owners no, unless they bought it outright from Kate.
I also wonder if TLC picked up the mortgage on the "mansion" until Kate's contract ran out. That might explain why she refinanced.
I would love to see Jon do DWTS. I would vote for him and hope that he would win. What a slap in the face that would be to Kate. And it would be funny if he put his winnings in a trust for the kids that Kate could not touch.
Just my random thought on this HOT July day......
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@Mydmaxx and SO helpful! I'm so thankful for all my kids but my boys sure take care of their momma these days!
I have no doubt Kate expects that all of her children will take care of her when she gets older. They'll owe it to her, in her warped mind. She already feels they need to thank her for every day things other parents believe is all part of being a parent. She makes me sick.
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this already but I just went over to The Stir and Kate's photo and blogs are no longer there! Unless I'm blind, lol. Anyone else see that?
I hope Kate has not 'converted' the boys as she seems to have done to at least Mady.Who knows what she means by they are taking care of her- at age 9! The tup girls are not mentioned a whole lot, except for 'cute' remarks and Kate playing Calico Critters with them.
The sheep on the other hand, are completely apoplectic, and it's funny!
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I think it's in the sheeple handbook, a requirement for joining the flock. Apoplectic 101 and they've all passed the course. It's a shame, really. Moreover, you'd think that at least some of them would be able to think logically, have some common sense, but they don't.
JW said... 62
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this already but I just went over to The Stir and Kate's photo and blogs are no longer there! Unless I'm blind, lol. Anyone else see that?
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Wow! They didn't waste any time, did they? Not even worth having in the archives I guess.
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Jon had a dry, self deprecating sense of humor but for some reason the sheeple take everything he says so darn seriously. At least his sense of humor isn't dependent on the expense of others all the time.
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I think Jon threw it out there in an off-handed, friendly competive way--I really don't think he was serious, although, undoubtedly, correct. The no address comment was likely because he didn't want McCrazy showing up at his door. Like Kate, the sheeple seem to lack the kind of normal social cues that the mediocre people understand.
I do agree that the haters who lobbied against Kate did hurt her "career". But, I think everyone can agree that she had opportunities galore that she blew because she in incurious, arrogant and unappreciative of all the itty bitty teenie tiny people who contribute to productions. She is a unique combination of the worst characteristics of celebrities, and completely untalented and unteachable to boot. How is that anyone's fault but hers? She has made it clear that it is her way or no way, so she has had complete control of her image--she said that she is an expert producer because she produced their lives!
Looks like some new posters here today....hmmm, no sense of humor, no social skills, literal throwaway names, and too much time on "their" hands. Now, who does that sound like?
Kate's the Stir blog is still there. AS for Kate kids not in anything, shame on her. There is Kiddie college, fun classes offered by the Jr Colleges, there is the Library, most Park Districts have activities, as does the Community Centers, Museums have classes as well. Oh, I forgot, that is is too much work & trouble to put the kids in anything, it's better to bore them to death with hanging in the pool. I have also noticed from the picks on Kate's website, that 2 of the boys, look like they need braces(like Hannah got, same age), or is this the girls only, cause as Kate once said: boys are icky. We know which kid is Kate's favorite, that is sad. I feel for those boys. just lurking
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Agree. It would be unusual for a child to excel starting this late. IMO the kids may have already missed the boat.
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Unless they are phenoms, ITA. They may be able to play parks and rec, but other than that, they will spend most of their time on the bench. Kids sports is VERY political---especially, for boys. And, teams are already formed--coaches regularly cut deals, even when there is supposed to be drafts.
JW (62)
Wow, they got rid of all traces of her, fast! Odd that they would do that if her contract just ran out. They paid for those blogs, so you'd think they'd keep them up for awhile, at least. But very quickly they removed everything that had a connection to Kate. Kind of like they wanted to forget that she was ever there.
Her garbage is still there. The link came up empty on my phone last week but is working again:
http://thestir.cafemom.com/column/adventures_with_my_8
Well there's no reason to get lathered up if some of us want to talk about Jon on DWTS. My goodness a few little comments about the possibility of Jon working again and we here are "stupid" and "worked into a lather"? I have a dog in the fight and his name is Jon. Does that make me stupid?
Unless they are phenoms, ITA. They may be able to play parks and rec, but other than that, they will spend most of their time on the bench. Kids sports is VERY political---especially, for boys. And, teams are already formed--coaches regularly cut deals, even when there is supposed to be drafts.
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Are you talking about non-school teams, such as little league or sports teams outside the school? If they are interested in playing sports, they will be given the chance on their school teams where it is not political at all, and if they have any talent at all in any sports, they will not sit on the bench. Many of the kids on the teams have had limited experience in sports in lower school, but when they get to middle school and upper school they do very well on the teams. All kids get a chance on the teams. There are no competition try-outs. I don't remember if one of the twins was on a team when she was in second grade, but she seems to be doing very well right now.
I think Jon threw it out there in an off-handed, friendly competive way--I really don't think he was serious, although, undoubtedly, correct.
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Again, the double standard. Sheep are trying to make this an acrimonious thing, where Jon "shows" Kate he can beat her.
Did Kate do her share of smack talk before DWTS?
Check.
From my memory, poor as it is sometimes both Kate and Jon were anxious to move to a big property. No doubt each had wrong and right reasons for the move but most of those reasons were wrong and selfish IMO. Wasn't the marriage broken up before the move? Did Robert mention in his book if Jon really believed he and Kate would share the estate after the divoece? On 1 side I've gotta think he would have known her well enough by then to get she would never do that. Tho he has acted naively at best and straight selfishly immature at the worst when it comes to cash and the law, contracts and adult responsiblities like that.
I also sorta remember people at GWOP swearing up and down the family would move out of PA. The Carolinas was the popular choice. Or Cali
Hi, all. Hope you all had a wonderful 4th of July.
As far as Kate, what can be said that hasn't already be said? As Ex-Nurse said, she had numerous opportunities and blew every one of them with her own nasty personality.
As far as the kids in activities during the summer, they may well be and we just don't know about them. However, I don't think, and this is just my opinion, that Kate gets all that involved in them if they do have summer activities. She just doesn't seem the type of mom that does those things. I was always the "team mom" for my daughter's softball team every year, her dad was one of the coaches. I was a room mom, a helper at Brownies, a chaperone at skating parties, etc. You know, all the stuff that involved parents do. Not that I was involved with everything, just that I don't believe Kate is involved with much of anything with her kids.
Anyhow, just my opinion.
By the way, I also agree that the Elizabethtown house was big enough for them. The kids basically had the same sleeping arrangements they have now. The twins shared a room, the boys shared a room and the girl tups shared a room.
They had a big back yard, a large basement, and they could have added on if they needed to. However, I don't think they needed to and they just wanted to move to a private location with no neighbors near by so they could film however long they wanted and didn't have to worry about anyone spilling the beans. Also, I think Kate is into material "things" and thought that she deserved this mansion, to make herself look important.
Did Robert mention in his book if Jon really believed he and Kate would share the estate after the divoece?
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Jon mentioned that he's got a big house that he doesn't even live in. I don't think they were living together when they moved-- just filming$$$.
I think it's why Kate made it very clear to the kids that they could never come into her bedroom. I think it was to keep the kids unaware of the separation so they wouldn't blurt anything out to the camera, or anyone for that matter, so the gravy train could keep on rolling.
I think GWOP was swearing that Jon and Kate were planning to move to NC because they claimed to have an exclusive interview with Jodi's sister. She said that there were house plans and that there would be living space for the crew. Now it doesn't make sense since they ended up buying in PA anyway, but for sure Kate wanted that big house to continue filming. I think the E-Town neighbors had enough of the crew, lights, and fans cruising the neighborhood.
We don't know if the boys are involved in any sports, but it's a shame if they are not just for the fun and friendships. My son was not athletic, but he participated. Somehow, I don't think she wants to be bothered with the boys (after all, they're not taking care of momma). Must not be the little "yes" men she wants. I suspect they are ignored.
Also re: the E-town house: the kids are in the same bedroom arrangement, tup girls in one room, tup boys in another, twins together, Kate in her own messy room, large playroom. They have benefited no doubt from the POOL and all the land and privacy, but as far as the house, the kids do not need several dining/living rooms and more than maybe one extra bathroom which could have easily been added on.
VOTE 4 JON DWTS @ReneeAudric 21m
@Allisstair @Participan @Kateplusmy8 Classmts r 2 yrs younger. K8 held tups back 2 yrs 2 film.Tups r 9 & just finished gr2. Kids in gr2 r 7.
We vote for Daddy @Allisstair 20m
@ReneeAudric @participan @Kateplusmy8 Hadn't realized it's TWO years behind. That's pitiful; what a shameless parent Kate is. #noexcuse
TwitTart @TwitTartwif 9m
@Allisstair @reneeaudric @participan #kateplusmy8 Yes, 2yrs behind their classmate's! Plus no sports, Nothing like other children
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How do they come up with things like this? The kids weren't kept back two years for filming. Instead of going into Kindergarten when they should have, they were put into Junior Kindergarten, and then into Kindergarten. ONE YEAR!
Do the non-fans just make up "facts" to bait the sheeple, or don't they really know that the information they are putting out is false? It's such a baiting game among them that I really can't figure it out anymore!
Jon mentioned that he's got a big house that he doesn't even live in. I don't think they were living together when they moved-- just filming$$$.
I think it's why Kate made it very clear to the kids that they could never come into her bedroom.
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Word around the neighborhood was that they had split in the late summer/early fall of 2008, right before the move. Someone (won't say who) let it slip, which is why it was a surprise that they continued with the settlement on the house.
Sleepless In Seattle said... 80
''....How do they come up with things like this? The kids weren't kept back two years for filming.''
''.....Do the non-fans just make up "facts" to bait the sheeple, or don't they really know that the information they are putting out is false?''
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Isn't it a fact that they are 9 and just finished second grade? I believe that fact is correct.
If you click on the link to "Writers for the Stir", Kate is gone. If you go directly to her blog, you can still read it.
Word around the neighborhood was that they had split in the late summer/early fall of 2008, right before the move. Someone (won't say who) let it slip, which is why it was a surprise that they continued with the settlement on the house.
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I'd really love to know if the reported agreement between Jon and Kate really happened (where they agree to live separate lives and to film). I wonder if that's on her computer discs??
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JW said... 62
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this already but I just went over to The Stir and Kate's photo and blogs are no longer there! Unless I'm blind, lol. Anyone else see that?
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Wow! They didn't waste any time, did they? Not even worth having in the archives I guess.
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It's still there.
http://thestir.cafemom.com/blogger/120/
Remona, I have to agree with you. When I was 9, I was in the 4th grade. What grade are the tups starting? Is it 2nd or 3rd? If it's 2nd, then I think they are 2 years behind.
If you google "the stir" Kate is still one of the hilights listed for their google results.
In reading the gushing from fans, it appears that the majority of them are teenyboppers or young people in their early twenties. Why is that? Is it because Kate herself is stuck in that age group, or because most adults (with the exception of a couple of sheeple who really don't have everything together upstairs) can see right through her? Teens are impressionable. They want to be like her and so they need for her to follow them, they watch her shows over and over again and get all choked up when she retweets them. It's a strange demographic.
Every time I take a look at Twitter I see the cover photo for her cookbook and those darn green rabbit ears. I still can't believe that any photographer worth any weight wouldn't have seen that...or that Kate would actually approve of that cover going to print. It's inexcusable.
Remona Blue said... 82
Isn't it a fact that they are 9 and just finished second grade? I believe that fact is correct.
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They turned nine at the end of 2nd grade, which would make them one year behind. Most children do not turn 7 at the end of 2nd grade. It is not a correct fact to state that they are two years behind.
The tups are starting 3rd grade. They're a year behind. Most kids start 4th grade at 9, end 4th grade at 10.
LoveMyGrandsons said... 86
Remona, I have to agree with you. When I was 9, I was in the 4th grade. What grade are the tups starting? Is it 2nd or 3rd? If it's 2nd, then I think they are 2 years behind.
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3rd, making them one year behind, not two.
I was in the older half of my class because I'm a late November birthday and the cut off was 5 in September. That made me 9 in the 3rd grade. The tups will be 9 throughout most of the school year turning 10 right at the end. I don't really see anything wrong with the age/grade. My son was also always in the older half of his class because he's a January birthday.
Remona, I have to agree with you. When I was 9, I was in the 4th grade. What grade are the tups starting? Is it 2nd or 3rd? If it's 2nd, then I think they are 2 years behind.
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They are starting third grade. They are one year behind. Some were ready for Kindergarten at the appropriate time when they should have been starting Kindergarten; others were not. They all went to Junior Kindergarten instead of splitting them up.
I don't see a big deal about what grade they're in. They're small for their age and rather immature from the way Kate talks about them. One year won't make a difference. Two probably would have.
I don't know the size of the school, but with six they may make up a fairly large portion of the third graders.
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Remona Blue said... 82
Isn't it a fact that they are 9 and just finished second grade? I believe that fact is correct.
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''They turned nine at the end of 2nd grade, which would make them one year behind. Most children do not turn 7 at the end of 2nd grade. It is not a correct fact to state that they are two years behind.''
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I said, ''Isn't it a fact that they are 9 and just finished second grade? I believe that fact is correct.''
Please point to the place in that quote that I said they were two years behind. If you intend to make a snotty anonymous comment, then do NOT say I said something I did NOT say!
Melissa NV said 85 Kate's blogs are not there.
However, they still have Kate's "adventures" under more columns and all comments, which are against Kate.
They also have an article about Jon and DWTS.
Thank you for letting me know. I couldn't remember what grade the tups were going into, but being that it's 3rd, that doesn't put them as far behind as I thought.
However, my only comment is that Kate needs to stop treating them like a "6 pack". If some are more advanced than the others, she needs to let them move ahead and not try to keep them all together. She needs to start seeing those kids as individuals, and not as a group.
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Many of the kids on the teams have had limited experience in sports in lower school, but when they get to middle school and upper school they do very well on the teams. All kids get a chance on the teams. There are no competition try-outs.
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If this were the 50s, I would agree--maybe there is a regional difference. In our area, the kids who start early have the opportunity to play on 'club" or 'tournament teams". These teams may practice and/play games all year long. During the season, they play 6-8 games every weekend in addition to school, Little League, etc. These kids understand the rules and strategies at a very young age, and naturally talented athletes will always be able to walk onto a team. Here, it is extremely rare for any player to make varsity, when they started playing in school intra-mural sports. No shame in not playing sports--my son didn't like team sports, so he took karate. But, he was left out because he was different from the sports crazed boys that had been his friends in younger years. He has a lifelong love of karate, and still takes classes now--so does his wife,
As far as the no tryout policy, the truth is that the same parents coach their kids for years, know all the players in the league and cut deals and trades. Most of the politics take place under the table and no one would admit this this happened. Not saying this is right or fair--it is how it is done. Parents who coach work with their kids, so they are usually the best players.
LMG--should have known you were a kindred soul. Spent many years sitting in the stands, and traveling with my daughters' fast-pitch team for games and tournaments. We had many League of Their Own moments, when they pitched and caught together--many timeouts and glares. Ahh,,,good times!
Only a couple years playing non-competitive sports where everyone gets a chance to play equally could spell absolute disaster for a kid trying to get a college scholarship in their sport. You almost always have to have years and years of experience to be competitive. The Blind Side is a rare, rare case. And even in that case the real young man it was based on said he actually played football since he was a kid and that they just added in his inexperience for drama. For some kids that college scholarship is their ticket to a better life. I'm torn about that because I understand there are nothing but good intentions behind making sports less competitive, but it could be really hurting those kids who need those sports to get out of their circumstances. I doubt a child like Cara "needs" a lacrosse scholarship, but you can bet your bottom dollar that some other little girl will never get a chance to afford a decent college without it. And if she's not getting the training she needs now, that could be out the window for her.
http://wtvr.com/2013/07/09/holmberg-ashland-family-with-nine-children-from-six-countries-the-youngest-named-hope/
I don't know how to make the link shorter. Above link is inspiring story of family that decided to find and adopt a child no one else would want. And they adopted George from an orphanage in Romania. George can say very matter of fact that he would be dead if they had not adopted him. In Romania everyone thought he was cursed because he was born without arms.
And then they adopted more children.
Inspiring story.
Little League and parks & rec teams have policies that every kid plays every game. But there is nomrequirement that they start, or how many innings/ quarters etc they will play. To outsiders, seems arbitrary and unfair, Coaches know the kids on the teams. As well as all of the players In the entire leagues. Coache start scouting, and get to know the program coaxes in higher trades.
The tups have a considerable advantage of maturity, coordination and age that is wasted unless they begin playing now.
The comment about the boys "taking care of her" means absolutely NOTHING other than IT'S ALL ABOUT KHATE. Knowing her, she probably just finished a tirade, complete with foam coming out of her mouth, but her tweet says something else. Trying to convince herself (and anyone else who's stupid enough to believe it)that her icky boys just LOVE LOVE LOVE their mamma. She's still trying to steal their spotlight. On the surface it looks like it's a compliment to her boys, but what she's REALLY saying is "see how great I am?" Back-handed compliments, another narcissist trait. Behind closed doors, in all sorts of little ways, (even subtle)she lets those boys know where they stand.
Ex Nurse -- I was commenting about the school that the kids attend, not community, park or Little League games. That's the way it is in the school now, now in the 50s, although it may well have been that way back then, too.
Melissa NV said 85 Kate's blogs are not there.
However, they still have Kate's "adventures" under more columns and all comments, which are against Kate.
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Nope. I didn't say that. I said that it's still there and gave the link.
Thank you for letting me know. I couldn't remember what grade the tups were going into, but being that it's 3rd, that doesn't put them as far behind as I thought.
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LMG, how are those boys of yours? :) The little kids will be going into third grade. They should be going into fourth grade, which puts them one year behind. If they were two years behind, they should be going into fifth grade, which is not the case. They are only nine years old.
LMG...good to hear from you.
With regard to tups ages and what grade they are in. I say, no big deal. My birthday is in Dec. and my husband's is Jan.1. When we were growing up, the cut off date for starting kindergarten was 1/1 of the school year so we both started kindergarten at four years old. And we were both in different states. We both graduated hs at 17. A friend of mine turned 18 in Jan. of our senior year so she was a full 11 months older than me. It's just the way it turned out.
When my daughters were young the cut off date was 9/1. So you had to be five before 9/1. So you can have a child that turns five in August and then another child in the same class that turns six in September; hence and almost one year age difference. I saw on segment on 60 minutes awhile back where parents are intentionally holding their kids back from starting kindergarten until they are six years old. They feel it gives them a leg up on academics and sports. I think that is ridiculous. If your child is ready for school at the age they are supposed to start then put them in school.
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@Kateplusmy8 Just pre-ordered Love is In the Mix from Amazon UK! Any chance of a London book signing this fall?!
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Does Amazon update immediately? According to Novelrank, the last preorder in the UK was three days, 15 hours ago, with only two sold in July and five in June. With that number, I don't think that there's enough interest in the UK to make a book signing worthwhile!
Saw Kate Jackson on a old Match Game Game show. I wanted to know what year it was, so I went to IMDB, (International Movie Data Base) and looked up her career and clicked on trivia.
A quote from Kate:
I'd rather share the glory of a hit than star by myself in a flop.
I was just. WOW! kate Gosselin would never ever feel this way. She's a STAH! BS from BW!
If kate would of taken her meds, didn't abuse the kids, Jon or the animals or anybody, did things like the lady from Omaha with her 16 kids, let UKevin and AJody, cousins, grandparents come in and out of frame, the show would of been much much more successful.
As a mother of 3 athletic multi-sport boys, it makes me sick that kate hasn't done jack squat to get those boys into sports. She doesn't have to go to their games! kate you have the cash to hire someone to go and take your boys to practice and maybe go to a game or two.
kate, you need to hire a certified lifequard to come to the house and teach those kids that need it to swim. Noodles and arm floaties and your toes sticking up in the air in pictures beside the pool are not going to cut it. If one of the kids went under and was in distress, I do not have one ounce of confidence that you would get up out of your white plastic throne and try to help your kid.
I think the boys are sworn to duty of the "CHORE MANUAL". They work like dogs to take care of the chickens and kate had the nerve to get a picture of her unloading the 50 or 100 pound back of chicken feed to make the public think She Does It All!
On CWS, I saw all 3 boys with their small hands attached to a big chicken feed bag hauling it to the chicken coop. kate is getting so much eggs, she has to be using them and selling the rest for a small income.
I am afraid in the not to near future, we will see the kids interviewed about how it was being kate's children. I can see the kids, trying to talk about it with tears in their eyes and handkerchiefs trying to wipe them away.
Believe me, they are not using the handkerchief poking their eyes to make themselves to cry like their mother did on the Today Show over unpaid bills in her purse, that she could not drop in the mail. There is no telling how many donations she got after that interview of people feeling sorry for her.
Then after the dog and pony Today Show, her and Steve giddy-UP and go to lunch at NOBU.
$174.00.
Compulsory age in PA is eight, so legally she wouldn't have had to enroll them until last year.
It's not unusual for a child to start Kindergarten at age 6.
http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/purdon%27s_statutes/7503/admission_to_kindergarten_and_beginners/507324
"I saw on segment on 60 minutes awhile back where parents are intentionally holding their kids back from starting kindergarten until they are six years old."
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Redshirting has its pros and cons and is still a subject of debate.
capecodmama said... 106
LMG...good to hear from you.
With regard to tups ages and what grade they are in.
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Agree!
Hi, LMG. Wish you'd post more!
I don't care if the tups were held back a year. The fact that they are in mainstream school, given their odds-defying gestation, is a miracle.
My beef is with the tups is not having their physical abilities challenged and not developing motor and social skills that will benefit them later in life.
Playing with legos with your same siblings day in and day out is stunting at best, and abusive at worst.
Kate can nurture all of her new hobbies. Running and yoga for example. Oh, and the KY Derby, of course.
After the kids are up and out is the time to indulge your every whim, but now, as a mom to 8 who has tons of help and a co parent, it's just unconscionable that no photo, to my knowledge, has never shown off one pic of the boys in a karate outfit, a Scout outfit, a tennis racket in their hand, holding a golf club, soccer ball, basketball or football.
You get my drift here... other than playing with Legos, swimming (yawn... get them on a fricking community team!!) and feeding chickens, they've not been shown to do much of anything else that doesn't involve being on the compound.
Whew, early rant!
Sorry!
Oh, not done, one more thing. Kate would have NOTHING without the tups. They were and still are the money making part of the equation. They've worked all of their lives and should be showered with developmental opportunities.
And summer camp ;-)
Redshirting has its pros and cons and is still a subject of debate.
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Seems to me it was discussed here at length.
Oh, not done, one more thing. Kate would have NOTHING without the tups. They were and still are the money making part of the equation. They've worked all of their lives and should be showered with developmental opportunities.
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As a mother of 3 athletic multi-sport boys, it makes me sick that kate hasn't done jack squat to get those boys into sports. She doesn't have to go to their games! kate you have the cash to hire someone to go and take your boys to practice and maybe go to a game or two.
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We don't know how much interest the boys have shown in sports. We just don't know. But, what I DO know is that I saw the kids really enjoy gymnastics and I DO know that Kate made excuses for not continuing the kids in gymnastics.
She didn't say, "hey, they tried it, they didn't like it". No. She said "oh gee, too many kids for the space (per space issues? wtf?) and to much money",
I'm paraphrasing, of course, but my point is that we've seen Kate weasel out of following up on an activity that the kids obviously enjoyed.
So, I'm extrapolating from that and the fact that the tups have never been known to do any outside activity. And, we have some locals that can give us vague confirmations that the twins are still involved in their respective interests. Thankfully.
I don't think she'd borrow money against the house if she had money.
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I also wonder if TLC picked up the mortgage on the "mansion" until Kate's contract ran out. That might explain why she refinanced.
I don't recall Kate borrowing any money against the house. When did this take place?
She refinanced the original 2008, high interest rate, $720,000 balloon (10 yr) mortgage in Dec 2011. She refinanced it with a low interest rate, 30 yr fixed/adjustable mortgage of $662,000. (this is all public record online)
I think it was a smart financial decision for her to refinance when the interest rates were low, especially since she had to do it sometime before 2018 anyway. She's now paying less than 1/2 of what she used to just in interest each month.
As far as the piano, the one in the new owner's home looks different to me. Wasn't the Gosselin's piano a natural, light wood? The new owner's looks like it might be shiny black? I agree with the other posters, that the house looks great with the simple changes the new owners made.
Tucker said, "After the kids are up and out is the time to indulge your every whim, but now, as a mom to 8 who has tons of help and a co parent, it's just unconscionable that no photo, to my knowledge, has never shown off one pic of the boys in a karate outfit, a Scout outfit, a tennis racket in their hand, holding a golf club, soccer ball, basketball or football."
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Suppose she does show photos of these kids in a Scout uniform or holding a golf club, and she tells her Twitter buddies all of their activities, including playdates, roller skating parties, whatever...then she's invading their privacy and everyone is up in arms because the kids aren't allowed to be kids without the world (as Milo would have it) knowing what they are doing.
If she doesn't post any of those things, then it means that the kids have no activities outside of their home and they are isolated/sheltered from rest of society, as the haters on Twitter would have you believe. The fact is that those kids are away from that home for five days a week, nine hours a day, and with Jon on weekends (or perhaps even more). It's totally possible that they do have outside activities in which they participate, only none of it is being put out for public consumption. Just because she doesn't post photos of them with a baseball bat doesn't mean that none of that happens.
At their age, they do need summer camp, not necessarily an overnight camp, but even a day camp would get them away from her in the summer. There are several in the area that they would enjoy. Didn't the kids go to Bible School last year?
It looks like one of Kate's sheeple has set up a new ID and tweeted disgusting and vile comments about one of the "haters." Kate must be so proud to have them on her side...such classy people, the creme de la creme of society.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 11h
@MiloandJack @Quotelmages ohhhh I love that one! :) the quote and all... Lol
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 13h
@Kateplusmy8 @Quotelmages Remember ... Stay positive ;) pic.twitter.com/lOnzSzhsJK One of these has your name on it Kate!
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I see Kate gave Milo one of her (now) rare tweets. It's interesting that Milo's photo was of two empty beach chairs and "one has Kate's name on it!" Maybe Milo DID loan a beach house last year. Kate's ears sure perk up when there's an opportunity to show her desperate need. (Ha.) Maybe some tweetie will pick up on the grifting hint.
Over In Kate's County said... 115
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I don't believe they went to VBC last year, but all valid points. I made a point to say that we just don't know and that I'm extrapolating.
Yes, it's all an invasion of privacy, but the silver lining would be that there is evidence that the kids are enjoying and benefitting from the money they earned.
There's nothing wrong with an occasional update from Kate, but I truly think she's using the kids photos to drive eyeballs to her website to advertise her book.
Let's face it, it's hard to find the upshot when it comes to kate ;-)
I think the G piano was shiny black ?
The same goes for the tup girls- they could be in Brownies, sports, gymnastics, art, whatever they are interested in. The twins were taking violin and piano at that age or earlier.I agree they should not do everything together.
I don't believe they went to VBC last year, but all valid points.
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Why am I remembering something about Kate tweeting that she took the kids to VBS, having to pick them up, take snacks or something like that? I think her church's Bible School begins on the 14th. Wonder if she'll mention it.
"It looks like one of Kate's sheeple has set up a new ID and tweeted disgusting and vile comments about one of the "haters." Kate must be so proud to have them on her side...such classy people, the creme de la creme of society."
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I saw that, and I'm 99.99 percent sure I know which one it is. You can alter spelling, punctuation, on Twitter but there are certain things that you just can't disguise.
Remember the J+K+8 yard sale and we thought it insensitive to sell some personal stuff (was it Christmas ornaments?)?
Well, I just read on ROL that Casey Anthony parents held a yard sale at Casey's grandparent's house and they were SELLING Calee's things. How sick is that?
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/07/casey-anthony-parents-yard-sale-sold-caylee-toys/
Come on! Donate the stuff anonymously, sure, but don't profit from it!
George and Cindy Anthony are actually the dirt on Kate's stilettos. That bad.
Virginia Pen Mom said... 117
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lol 'rare tweet' rhymes with 'rare treat' Maybe that's how Kate thinks of tweeting Milo.
How sick is that?
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Extremely sick, but it doesn't surprise me.
Very sick! Even sicker would be the people wanting to buy that poor murdered child's belongings!
Tucker's Mom said... 122
Remember the J+K+8 yard sale and we thought it insensitive to sell some personal stuff (was it Christmas ornaments?)?
Well, I just read on ROL that Casey Anthony parents held a yard sale at Casey's grandparent's house and they were SELLING Calee's things. How sick is that?
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/07/casey-anthony-parents-yard-sale-sold-caylee-toys/
Come on! Donate the stuff anonymously, sure, but don't profit from it!
George and Cindy Anthony are actually the dirt on Kate's stilettos. That bad.
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OMG. Just disgusting. That family is rotten.
Someone should buy them but then donate them all to a foster care charity or children's hospital or something. That family is so very off.
If that ROL story of an Anthony yard sale is true -- there are no words. I cannot imagine such heartless hawking.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 127
Someone should buy them but then donate them all to a foster care charity or children's hospital or something. That family is so very off.
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It appears that the woman who bought stuff is more interested in getting the story and video on ROL. Slime, all of them.
Really despicable.
Reminds me, although much different, of when we had a yard sale and I had a lot of things my then-3-year-old had outgrown. A neighbour bought some and I gave her some. Her little girl died the next week, choked on a piece of deli meat given to her at the grocery store. It gave me a horrible feeling that those clothes were in her bedroom which her mother could not bear to enter or have cleared out for a year. I know it's different, but how could anyone purchase Calee's things?
* Never let a small child eat things offered in stores, samples and such without checking for choking hazards.
This is from a recent Examiner article about Alexis Gosselin wanting a credit card:
Gosselin has been rather private about her finances, since people are wondering how she is making money to support her eight children. In fact, there seems to be little evidence that Jon Gosselin is a big part of the children’s lives.
How do these two sentences relate to each other? I could understand if the last sentence was "In fact, there seems to be little evidence Jon Gosselin is paying child support." But, again, how does questioning how Kate is financing her lifestyle and Jon not being a big part of the kids' life relate?
C'mon, if you're going to write for a news organization, please learn how to write first, even if it is just a gossip piece.
Very sick! Even sicker would be the people wanting to buy that poor murdered child's belongings!
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Let's just hope it doesn't end up on ebay.
Over And Out, it's probably CJ or MsGoody.
Formerly Duped said... 130
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That is heartbreaking.
Also a hazard is the hot weather this time of year. We've had 2 children die in cars so far this summer. One was left in the baby seat while the mother was at work because she forgot to drop the baby off at daycare.
Didn't realize what she'd done until hours later when she went back to her car.
This is from a recent Examiner article about Alexis Gosselin wanting a credit card:
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@ObsessedReality If Kate Gosselin allowed her kids to have friends in the house she'd know that kids carry these cards all the time.
Kids who just turned nine years old carry a credit card all the time? Really? That's news to me!
C'mon, if you're going to write for a news organization, please learn how to write first, even if it is just a gossip piece.
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Bunch of hacks.
I also don't understand. Alexis Gosselin wants a credit card? An 8-year old.
What??
PS... there's little evidence of Jon with his kids because he keeps it private. We know from locals and the occasional tweet/instagram that Jon is regularly seen with his kids.
Heck, even Kate has recently written that the 6 were with Jon.
Ugh. Pure intellectual laziness.
I often lurk, but rarely post. I would like to address the issue of the tups' grade level.
Schools make decisions, along with parents, about appropriate grade level placement based upon many criteria. I am certain that LCDS assessed the children to determine kindergarten placement.
Although some of them were ready to begin kindergarten, some of them were not, so none of them began regular kindergarten after the assessment. While some would argue that this was detrimental to those who were ready, the school certainly differentiated instruction in their junior kindergarten class and also when they entered kindergarten the following year. This means that all of them received the appropriate level of instruction both years.
As a reading specialist, I know firsthand how difficult it can be for children to learn academic content when they are not mature enough or ready for it. Kate and the school made the right decision, so I am not sure why this continues to be a topic of discussion on this blog.
"It looks like one of Kate's sheeple has set up a new ID and tweeted disgusting and vile comments about one of the "haters." Kate must be so proud to have them on her side...such classy people, the creme de la creme of society."
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I saw that, and I'm 99.99 percent sure I know which one it is. You can alter spelling, punctuation, on Twitter but there are certain things that you just can't disguise.
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That "person" has been tweeting vile obscenities for the past four hours. Nice flock Kate has there. I'm just amazed that those people who tweet that others are perverts and pedos don't realize that they will be found out, and someone will bring a suit against them. They will libel the wrong person. It's only a matter of time. They think they are above the law, but they may have a big surprise waiting for them at some point.
There are some very sick people on Twitter and Kate really needs to pull the plug on it. I guess BV only "outs" haters on behalf of Kate, not Kate's fans who harass the haters (and Jon) with libelous accusations.
Why do the boys have to be star players? This whole emphasis on "you have to get them into sports young or they lose any shot they have of being great" competitiveness just irks me! What about being on a non competitive team where they can just enjoy playing for the sake of playing? And for the record, I too have known several kids who didn't do sports until middle or high school and are on state championship winning teams. I know kids who started music lessons in middle school and are first chairs in their local youth bands and orchestras. Heck, I've know adults who didn't start a sport or hobby until later in life and are excellent players and some have even turned it into professional level careers.
I disagree that starting late in life precludes mastery of a skill. I think that if a child or adult is motivated and willing to put in the time it takes they can be great soccer players, football players, swimmers, tennis players, musicians, artists, cooks, writers, what have you.
As for the boys, if the insiders are correct and Jon sees the boys regularly, don't you think it's possible that he has taught them some soccer skills? After all, wasn't he a championship player? Isn't his brother a college coach?
And if memory serves, it wasn't until around this age that the girls started doing extra curricular activities at their school. I don't know how their school works, but perhaps some activities don't open up until you're in the upper grades. When I was in school (back in the pre-Prop 8 days), you couldn't do orchestra until 4th grade and band until 5th.
Sorry to rant but I read so much "poor kiddies". Yes they have it hard. They have a narcissistic mother and a passive father. But let's not teach them to see themselves as victims. Again, I'm not saying they haven't had a rough life, in terms of being on television from an early age and having parents who don't know how to parent because they put themselves or have put themselves first.
But "being a professional victim" (like Kate for example) is a learned attitude that they already pick up from their mom.
Trust me. At some point these kids will look back at their lives and the choices their parents made for them and they will hold their parents accountable.
Is it not amazing that the Examiner and other media(like: ROL), have not mentioned or reported that Kate is no longer blogging at The Stir? But they pick up on nonsense crap, and write an article about some normal/mediocre/average crap. Is Kate's PR paying them? Or is Kate paying them? Or is someone there a Kate lover/follower?
I don't think it is CJ or Goody and not sure why the Admin would allow that through. I think it is a hater trying to make it seem like it is Goody. The only people that are falling for that are the sheeple here.
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Sports can be way too competitive, way too young, but my concern is that no matter what level of intensity, children should have their outside interests nurtured.
For me, it's mostly about the social aspects of sports or insert whatever talent here, and it's about challenging themselves and working with others (mentors, instructors, coaches, teammates) than making the Varsity team.
For premies, I'd be challenging their motor skills, both fine and gross, as much as circumstances would allow.
I saw Kate say that she was having the kids cut with scissors because she was told they were behind in their motor skills. She put off teaching them to tie their shoes because velcro is easier.
This from a woman with time on her hands and a stable of help.
It's a pattern.
With 8 kids, there's no way you could support more than a couple on high level traveling teams. That sh*t is nuts!
Why do the boys have to be star players? This whole emphasis on "you have to get them into sports young or they lose any shot they have of being great" competitiveness just irks me! What about being on a non competitive team where they can just enjoy playing for the sake of playing?
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Amen to that. Well said, Silimom. I am in agreeance with your post. Kids are pushed so hard into competitive sports or music, or dancing or whatever just because their parents think it's the thing to do...their friends' kids are champion this and that, so their kids have to keep up. It's not fair to the child. When and if they are ready, they will tell you that they are ready. Let them be kids and not have to be concerned that if they don't excel at a young age they'll be benched or shunned for the rest of their school years. You don't saddle a six year old child with that worry.
I guess when you're in love you "muse" over what makes the other person happy, and you can "identify" with that person while you are musing...
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 32m
@RealZiggyFlo @Kateplusmy8 Well of course! Was just musing over #FunThings that R so identifiable w/Kate...Sunshine & warm weather! :)
The boys don't have to be star players, nor do their sisters. The missed point is that at their age, it would be appropriate to be players of some kind, either a sport or another kid activity. Their social skills are IMHO stunted since other than school, they only play with siblings or watch tv, often videos of themselves. With all of her free time and money, that makes her one major selfish mother.
And in other news..Kate's dopplinger and spouse have made the papers again! What a shock...not.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2358541/Gordon-Ramsays-difficult-couple-finally-speak-death-threats-rows--scandal-unpaid-tips.html
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@ObsessedReality If Kate Gosselin allowed her kids to have friends in the house she'd know that kids carry these cards all the time.
Kids who just turned nine years old carry a credit card all the time? Really? That's news to me!
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Sure they do. It's so easy to get approval for a credit card, don't you know, since nine-year-olds are employed and have established excellent credit because of their employment history, car payments, mortgage payments, etc.
You just have to wonder what makes someone tweet something like that. Apparently the sheeple aren't the only ones who lack common sense.
Their social skills are IMHO stunted since other than school, they only play with siblings or watch tv, often videos of themselves.
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But how would anyone know that, unless they are around the kids at home and at school? They very well may have friends, are involved in activities, have play dates, and whatever. Just because we don't see it doesn't mean that these kids social skills are stunted.
Blowing In The Wind said... 146
''xxxxxxxxxxx @ObsessedReality If Kate Gosselin allowed her kids to have friends in the house she'd know that kids carry these cards all the time.
Kids who just turned nine years old carry a credit card all the time? Really? That's news to me!''
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Wait...I think you missed what KK actually said:
''Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 8h
Alexis: can I have a credit card? (Fortunately I realized she meant a 'fake' plastic one that comes in mail for 'your name here' whew!)''
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My great-granddaughter has a purse full of those ''credit cards'', along with I don't know how many keys on her key ring that will open the door to a free car, if we go to the dealership and try the key. She is much younger than Alexis...but then again, my sweetie is very smart!
You're right (147), we actually don't know what the kids do, and it is none of my business anyway. But Kate's tweets tell a story of sorts and I think it is not a far reach to assume they are not in organized activities, have many playdates or the like. Her whiny tweets when she does have to carpool them around are not that frequent. I personally feel that from what we read, they do not have a good balance of normal childhood activities.
We saw her schedule white board with a couple of things for the twins, pool party pick up, a sleepover, a game. Nothing for the tups. She does mention how happy they all are to be home together and merrily spend most of their time together centred around the POOL or Kate's 'amazing meals.' Later comes texting with the twins, all the BFFs in her bedroom, Kate's massages, or watching TV while the littles are asleep.
If there are other activities I'm sure she would tweet about them as she has no boundaries there.
About boys and playing sports when older; I have a nephew who is gay. He loves sports. He did play t ball at age five but as he got older and he recognized he may be gay, he stopped playing team sports at school. He was scared that he'd be picked on and he didn't want to be in the locker room with other boys.He didn't join any sports in school.
About 10 years ago he decided he didn't want to lose out and he started a Gay Football league in Toronto.He and his team travel across North America and play other gay football teams. He's a great athlete and I'm pretty sure he runs Toronto now:)
The lesson is you're never too old to learn and be good.
Rosemary
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 23m
@HspncElvis @Kateplusmy8 Hey...U want 2pony up a card 4Alexis? Credit line of how much UncleElvis? LOL
Uncle Elvis? Good lord, Milo.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 45m
@LEIGHSHAHAN1 @Kateplusmy8 Ha...I've been knowing they don't like me 4 a long time! So what? All that matters is giving support 4Mom of 8!
Why does that matter? She acts like Kate is handicapped in some way. Why does she need support if she's so strong and positive all of the time; a single mom doing everything herself, being so very busy and always coming out on top -- a big success? Does Milo think that Kate is incapable of taking care of things on her own, that she depends on Milo's support?
"Wait...I think you missed what KK actually said:
''Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 8h
Alexis: can I have a credit card? (Fortunately I realized she meant a 'fake' plastic one that comes in mail for 'your name here' whew!)''
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I did read what Kate tweeted. The point was that the non-fan said that "kids carry these cards all the time." No, they don't...by the time they're nine they give up the plastic ones that kept them amused when they were three and four. I doubt if, when their friends come to visit or swim, that they bring credit cards (real or plastic) with them.
Anecdotal stories don't disprove the general rule of the earlier the better.
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Anecdotal stories don't disprove the general rule of the earlier the better.
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I'm sure there is a plethora of stories/examples that would contradict the unproven rule that the earlier the better. There is no "general rule," no one-size fits all that would serve as a hypothesis for the theory.
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@HspncElvis @Kateplusmy8 Aw Senoir'...of course! Now U have 7 more orders 2fill! Uncle Elvis don't 4get the rest of Kate's babies! :)
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Oh, good. Not only is Milo connected to the kids in some bizarre way and thinks of them as her kids, but now Elvis is an uncle to Kate's babies, who are nine and twelve years old. Does this make Milo and Elvis brother and sister?
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#Alliss @MiloandJack @kateplusmy8 So what. The Gosselin kids also hve a backstabbing uncle they haven't seen in years & barely remember him.
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She really hates men, doesn't she? Now there will be a hate campaign against Kevin. Is Kate's father also fair game in all of this? What about Steve? Does msgoody also hate him?
And of course she knows that the kids don't remember Uncle Kevin. She knows that Jon never takes the kids to see their aunt and uncle. How does she know this? Oh, that's right. It's because Jon is too busy putting a nail in Kate's coffin and none of the kids want to see their father.
Kate certainly does attract the strange ones.
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Although some of them were ready to begin kindergarten, some of them were not, so none of them began regular kindergarten after the assessment. While some would argue that this was detrimental to those who were ready, the school certainly differentiated instruction in their junior kindergarten class and also when they entered kindergarten the following year. This means that all of them received the appropriate level of instruction both years.
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I would believe that you are correct. Thanks for your professional perspective on this issue.
Camden Bush @CamRam2013 4m
Let's take a moment to be thankful for the fact that we haven't heard from Jon and Kate Gosselin in like three years.
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Apparently Camden is really out of the loop! ;-)
Maggie Ann @mannjenns 2h
@kateplusmy8 please start shooting episodes again! or updates! the twins are my age and I want to see your family again! I love your show!!
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If it was up to Kate she would be doing this all ready.
Does this mean that Milo thinks that Goody's hateful rages against Jon show that she's right in her convictions? She obviously stays on twitter.
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@BarbGilmer @SandieBelllz @LEIGHSHAHAN1 @stashcache @Kateplusmy8 U have2b thick skinned&resolved N ur convictions of whats right 2stay here!
I'm scratching my head trying to figure out why Kate allows all of this to go on. Other than that she enjoys the adulation that the teens throw out there, what reason could she have?
Formerly Duped said... 119
I think the G piano was shiny black ?
The same goes for the tup girls- they could be in Brownies, sports, gymnastics, art, whatever they are interested in. The twins were taking violin and piano at that age or earlier.I agree they should not do everything together.
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But remember TLC paid for the lessons (and piano) for the twins because they made it into an episode. Just like the gymnastics class for the 6. Class and clothes all paid by TLC.
And as we all know as soon as Kate has to pay, no more gymnastics for the 6.
I really really do not believe Kate has the kids in any activities - either during the school year or summer.
But I do think that the twins participate in school activities because they probably insisted and Kate couldn't forbid them. But the 6 don't because Kate still has control over them and doesn't want the expense or make the effort.
Really, as much as Kate tweets about mundane things in her life and how exhausted she is just making dinner and how great she is to just do simple everyday parental duties, we all know that if the 6 were in any type of activity, she would be tweeting how great she is just because she drove them to a class/sport...
And yes, last summer, Kate tweeted multiple times about how stressful and hard it was to take the kids to VBS. I seriously doubt they are doing it again this summer.
Blowing In The Wind said... 152
''....I did read what Kate tweeted. The point was that the non-fan said that "kids carry these cards all the time." No, they don't...by the time they're nine they give up the plastic ones that kept them amused when they were three and four. I doubt if, when their friends come to visit or swim, that they bring credit cards (real or plastic) with them.''
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When you're right, you're right! As I said, my great-grandbaby is the age that are amused by the credit cards, much younger than Alexis, who is nine.
About boys and playing sports when older; I have a nephew who is gay. He loves sports. He did play t ball at age five but as he got older and he recognized he may be gay, he stopped playing team sports at school. He was scared that he'd be picked on and he didn't want to be in the locker room with other boys.He didn't join any sports in school.
About 10 years ago he decided he didn't want to lose out and he started a Gay Football league in Toronto.He and his team travel across North America and play other gay football teams. He's a great athlete and I'm pretty sure he runs Toronto now:)
The lesson is you're never too old to learn and be good.
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Good for him! That's awesome!
I am absolutely disgusted by that ROL article about the Anthonys. I followed the case very closely. Cindy's mom passed away recently. She lived in Mt. Dora, that's whose house that is. It's probably an estate sale. Her husband is the one in the video with Caylee signing "You are my Sunshine."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T613YgLw_HE
Cindy and Caylee visited great grandpa for father's day then went back to great grandma's for Chili. That house is where Caylee had her last dinner. If the A's purposely sold Caylee's things, shame on them. If not, shame on ROL, and either way, shame on the buyer.
Cindy's mom's police interview was really interesting..she had somethings to say about Casey and the big bad cops tried to help her get her electric back on after a storm and find her cat.
http://humbleopinion.net76.net/interviews/shirley%20plesea.pdf
I hope kate's more recent chant about how much the boys love taking care of their mama isn't a pre strike to explain why the girl tups are doing sports or music activites or going to camp but the boys are not.
It's good to get kids acquainted with different/various sports and activities. Especially since Kate has them only identified as a pack of 6 or 3 boys. Some kids start soccer at 4 - so in a way they are late if they haven't been on any teams or groups. It's about socializing w/ their peers, learning respect for a coach and rules of a game. Plus they get an idea what they might like - soccer, tball, basketball, lacrosse, scouting. Just gives them an opportunities to try out a variety of sports that they may excel in later in school. Maybe they won't be into sport, but like to be in school band. That is a very competitive sport, although not likely at a small school like there. Not likely Kate the master controller will give them any say in what they want to explore, which is sad. They don't need to be involved in every sport every season, that would be crazy, but they need something in their lives.
@Kateplusmy8 , can I be your 9th child? I promise I'm well behaved and I'm potty trained😊 lol #kategosselin #kateplus8 #jonandkateplus8
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Oh good, you're potty trained, because otherwise, you'd be filmed in your poopy diapers, pulling down your pants, sitting on the potty forever and your poop would be photographed!
And millions of people would see it!
Junior high is going to be so much fun!
Sorry, this is the one with the detectives and the cat:
http://files.realitychatter.com/CA/Docs/Shirley-Plesea-Interview-082108-5148-5200.pdf
But I do think that the twins participate in school activities because they probably insisted and Kate couldn't forbid them. But the 6 don't because Kate still has control over them and doesn't want the expense or make the effort.
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Music lessons aren't free, and TLC is not paying for them...so who is? Sports equipment isn't cheap, so who is paying for it? Is it really known that the younger kids don't participate in anything at school? There are so many assumptions, so much speculation when, in fact, nobody really knows exactly in what activities those kids are involved.
"And yes, last summer, Kate tweeted multiple times about how stressful and hard it was to take the kids to VBS. I seriously doubt they are doing it again this summer."
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But nobody knows that. The kids very well could be involved in summer activities, are enrolled in VBS, but Kate isn't making it public. She's not tweeting much at all right now, and it really isn't the public's business to know if these kids have planned activities for the summer, or if they are just hanging out around the pool. They deserve privacy.
I don't know-- maybe it's just me, but I really have a problem with discussing if the kids are behind in school, whether they are socially stunted, behind their peers academically, or if they are going to be benched in future years because they might not be involved in sports now. I would hope that they are happy and healthy in their school environment and are thriving there. What is accomplished in making assumptions that they are lacking in skills because they were kept behind a year?
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@Kateplusmy8 , can I be your 9th child? I promise I'm well behaved and I'm potty trained�� lol #kategosselin #kateplus8 #jonandkateplus8
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Oh good, you're potty trained, because otherwise, you'd be filmed in your poopy diapers, pulling down your pants, sitting on the potty forever and your poop would be photographed!
And millions of people would see it!
Junior high is going to be so much fun!
No problemo because Gosselin kid #9 would be attending classes at the sainted LC where no one would dare tease someone else. Unless, that is, they aren't allowed to buy their own lunch and then watch out! Social leper!
I disagree that starting late in life precludes mastery of a skill. I think that if a child or adult is motivated and willing to put in the time it takes they can be great soccer players, football players, swimmers, tennis players, musicians, artists, cooks, writers, what have you.
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Silimom, I agree, too. Children should have the opportunity to try different things--sports, art, music, theater, dance--and let them see what they like. Hopefully Kate has done at least some of that.
My kids all tried t-ball (the girls, too!) and my daughter played all the way into baseball, the only girl on the team. Then one day when she was about 12, she asked me if I'd ever sat in the dugout with a bunch of stinky boys! That was the day she decided she'd try something else. One son stayed with it longer. Younger daughter said one year was enough.
My younger son never cared much for t-ball either and quit after a year. And though he swam and dived almost every day, he said no to both swim and dive teams. We said okay. No pressure, just an offer. He swam for fun, he said.
Then at 12, he tried a new sport, a rather unique one, and by 16, this year, he competed in Junior Olympics. I wish I could say the sport, but there were only about 7 boys in our state competing in his specialty. We never foresaw this outcome. That he was in love with the sport made ALL the difference. He made up for lost time.
I hope the G kids just have opportunities to try things in order to find their passions, be it sports or whatever--that Kate doesn't assume their passions are texting her and giving massages!
I am only guessing since I don't know their school, but if it's run like private JK-12 schools I'm familiar with, the kids will have team sports available to them in Middle School.
Soccer, field hockey, lacrosse, baseball, cross country, etc, and even swimming if there is a pool available for rent. The Lower School students don't have that much offered in sports. The schools offer instrumental music as a class, forming an orchestra of sorts. Students who want to get better take private lessons somewhere. Even Lower School students can take music.
If - if - I am close to getting it right, Kate may just wait until Middle School offers sports
to the "littles". Then they could take the late bus home, saving Kate from having to drive back and forth to get them and not messing up her personal scheduling priorities.
It's scientific that a child's brain is more open to learning things like music and languages when the child is younger. There's all kinds of studies on the science behind it. You can learn it later, but it will be incredibly difficult. I think what's lost sight of is no one is asking the kids to go nuts on some activity be it sports or what have you. It would just be nice after working so much during their childhood they got to do SOMETHING. Not going nuts, not trying to be the next big football star--just a few activities. Sports, music, camps, something. Good socialization and getting out of the house. Good practice for more intense and competitive activities later on.
We know from Kate's own CWS house manuel and tweets, there is no mention of tups' activities. She also almost consistently talks about all of the kids at home all the time. However, she frequently mentions activities for the twins. If she never mentioned the twins' activities, I would think nothing of it. It is odd and concerning only the twins appear to have a life outside of school and hanging out at the house.
On another note, I've gotten a couple emails over the years about Jon sightings with the kids, a couple of them included actual pics people took. But since Jon has specifically asked his kids be left alone, I will not do a post about it and never will. However, just recently he was out with most of the kids, including one of the twins, getting some kind of fast food I believe ice cream. So this nonsense Milo is talking about the twins not seeing him is just that, nonsense.
I believe the number of children in the US that participate in organized sports or take dance, music, karate, gymnastics, etc. outside of school are far fewer than the number of children that do.
And with all the hours a year this country's children spend in school, none of them are socially stunted from spending the rest of the time with their families. I'm sure there are thousands of children home alone all summer because both parents work.
I hope the Gosselin children have a nice summer, but I sure don't want or need to know what they are doing.
I say if the kids want to do sports lets them do it.
And let them do it at their own pace let them have fun and just be a kid.
If they don't want to do sports oh well.
What's so hard about that?
Didn't the locals say it's pretty much the norm that students from their school at least do some kind of summer camp or summer activity?? It's one thing if it's a different community and that's not the norm, but I thought this was pretty common.
Whoops, I meant the number that do are far fewer than those that DON'T.
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Didn't the locals say it's pretty much the norm that students from their school at least do some kind of summer camp or summer activity?? It's one thing if it's a different community and that's not the norm, but I thought this was pretty common.
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Who cares if it's the norm or not? Parents should make decisions based on what they believe is in the best interest of their children, not based on what their neighbors are doing. Suburbia would be a lot nicer place without the "keeping up with the Joneses" mentality that prevails.
Parents should make decisions based on what they believe is in the best interest of their children,
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Absolutely, and sometimes what's in a child's best interest is to be with their peers. I don't seriously believe that this choice to limit their involvement has anything to do with their best interest. The motives are I suspect miserly ones, as well as control, as well as laziness. Kate has proven hundreds of time she does not put their best interests first, but would rather be miserly, a control freak, and lazy rather than let them do what's best for them. Another parent doing the same would get a lot more of the benefit of the doubt.
I have been very selective about anonymous posts lately. Most do not get published. I have been enforcing all the rules more strictly the past month or so and this is a nicer place for it. Please continue to respect the rule and pick a name and stick to a name. No more anonymous.
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Exactly who does Milo want to hop on Kate? :-)
"Didn't the locals say it's pretty much the norm that students from their school at least do some kind of summer camp or summer activity??"
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Yes, admin...most of the kids do go to summer camp. With so many good camps in the area and in the Poconos, I just don't know why these kids don't go to overnight camp or to day camp. Maybe they do, and we just don't know. Summer camp should be a part of every kids' summer when growing up.
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@MY_3BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 Kate has such a personal story 2tell abt overcoming adversity! I hope one day she has the time 2write it! :)
What hardship has Kate overcome? Not being able to afford four cars instead of three? Having to slice her own meat and make her own yogurt? Collecting eggs? Living with eight kids in a one-bedroom home? Cleaning out her own pool? Mowing her yard?
I think what most everyone here is trying to say, is: that the kids don't have to be in anything competitive sports, but they are in something to have fun, not hanging/spending their whole summer by the pool, riding their bikes up & down the driveway, watching dvd of their selves, cause mom is too tired(lazy) to take them anywhere or cause there are too many kids and Kate can't handle them. Children do get bored, with the pool and each other. I can think of a dozen places and doings they could do. But it does entail leaving the compound and spending a little money(you know Kate, 1 tanning session or nails). Poor kids!
My daughter signed up my five year old grandson for t-ball in the spring. It was every Saturday morning for six weeks. I think it cost $35. The morning of the first session my daughter had to work so only his dad took him. There were a couple of kids from his pre-school class there as well. However, he wouldn't participate. He played catch with his dad off to the side but he wouldn't do anything with the group even though he could do everything the coaches were showing the kids. Between his parents and my husband and I, he knows how to play soccer, baseball, football, hockey and basketball. He can rollerblade circles around everyone but his dad. His dad used to race motorcross so he knows how to ride a dirt bike and a three wheel ATV. (I know it's controversial and my husband and I were NOT thrilled but his dad taught him well. He knows he's not allowed to touch his dirt bike or ATV without his dad and all of his safety gear on). However, he definitely is not ready for organized sports. And that was okay with his parents. They didn't push the issue of t-ball and ate the $35. The one activity he doesn't have a choice about and his parents have already informed him of this is learning how to swim. When you live on Cape Cod and you spend your summers at the beach, you've got to know how to swim.
I think what most everyone here is trying to say, is: that the kids don't have to be in anything competitive sports, but they are in something to have fun, not hanging/spending their whole summer by the pool, riding their bikes up & down the driveway, watching dvd of their selves, cause mom is too tired(lazy) to take them anywhere or cause there are too many kids and Kate can't handle them. Children do get bored
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With the exception of summer camp and a one-week vacation, that's all we did during the summer and I can't ever remember being bored. We didn't have to be constantly taken places or entertained. So much for those lazy, crazy days of summers of our youth.
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Milo's tweets always sound like Kate is in some dire situation.
Good evening everyone - I didn't mean to say that the kids should do no activities. I was simply responding to the idea that if you don't start something at the age of 4 or 5 or 6 that you are likely to never master it/be able to join championship level teams, etc.
As for activities, I completely agree that all of the Gosselin children should be able to participate in some sort of activity, whether it is scouting, sports, music, art, etc. I think elementary school age should be a time for kids to explore many different things to find what they like. We had/have a rule that our kids can try something but they have to stick with it for a year/season. This helps them prioritize what they want to do so we don't get a case of the I want to be a dance one week, then the next week I want to be a pianist, then the next week something else.
I think Kate posts about the twins' activities because honestly she prefers them. They're her best friends, after all. I frankly don't think she's all that attached to her younger kids, especially the boys. And she uses the "It's too expensive to fund activities for 6 kids" excuse way too much.
Is it expensive? Yes. But you should have thought about that when you decided to have "just one more". After all, Kate, in your own book "Multiple Blessings" you discuss how, before you had the second IUI, you and Jon decided that you'd never regret having more kids so if there was a risk of triplets or quadruplets or more, you were prepared to take that risk.
Well, part of being prepared for that risk is not just mentally and emotionally but financially. Frankly, you had no place doing any other type of assistive reproductive technology than IVF. Unlike IUI, IVF would have guaranteed you "Just one more."
But you didn't. You made a choice. You knew the risk and you went ahead with it anyway, despite your own fertility doctor advising you at the time to skip that cycle and wait for another one where the follicle count was lower.
So, put up and shut up. Your younger children deserve to have the same opportunities they're older sisters' have. They should be in sports, music, art, drama, science, or whatever other activity interests them.
You don't do it because you're a) stingy and b) lazy.
So what's it going to be, Can Do Kate? Prove me wrong. I dare you. Tweet about the amazing summer camps the sextuplets went to this year. Blog about how you got the kids swim lessons. And yes, I want photographic proof. I'm giving you a dispensation to talk up your 9 year olds and the wonderful activities they're doing this summer that don't involve cooking with YOU, swimming in YOUR pool, taking care of YOUR animals, cleaning YOUR house, doing school in YOUR basement or going on vacation with YOU.
Or, if you didn't sign them up for anything this summer, then brag about the great things you signed them up to do after school next year. (And here's a tip - signing them all up for afterschool activities keeps them out your oh so busy hair for a little while longer and means you only have to make one trip to the bus stop).
The reason some kids may not have been bored back in the day probably has a lot to do with lots of kids being around. You could step outside and there would be the neighborhood kids ready to go play. That doesn't happen as much anymore. For one thing, parents are more worried about kidnappings and other horrific things and many kids aren't allowed to just wander around from house to house. Parents prefer them at organized activities with adults there or on a scheduled play date. Johnny can be found at camp and Jenny is at soccer during the day. They're not around to play. It's a cultural change and we can discuss all we want whether it's a good thing, and we've had several great discussion about that. But the reality is this is the change that has happened and is probably here to stay and if kids want to be around others kids usually it's at an organized activity these days. They can be kept home on principle but it's a different home than it was in years past. I really highly, highly doubt Kate has put any kind of thought into this that the good people here have. It's just plain laziness mostly. Waaa, I don't wanna. Well, kids are hard work. Don't like it don't have kids. Kate couldn't even handle a field trip once for a couple hours. She tweeted that is was boring! I even did a post on it. She simply cannot handle how things work these days. Of course she gets lots of fun on her own but darn if the kids do.
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"@iAmTheWiseOne: Forget about what everyone else thinks and says. If it makes you happy, go for it!" @Kateplusmy8
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Some of those platitudes are so stupid. If an expensive luxury car makes a person happy, but the person has no source of income, should he/she rob a bank and "go for it?" Isn't that hedonism?
Some of those platitudes are so stupid.
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Those platitudes drive me crazy. They are often far too big of a generalization. Sure SOMETIMES doing whatever makes you happy is just fine. But obviously not always. Whatever makes you happy is how a four year old operates. You obviously cannot live life doing whatever makes you happy. That's completely contrary to religious doctrine and just basic morals and values. Platitudes in general are just silly. Seriously, an adult needs that kind of thing? Go sell it to a middle schooler lol.
Milo's tweets always sound like Kate is in some dire situation.
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Why does she always say that she has Kate's back? Kate can't take care of herself? I'm not so sure that I'd want a monkey (or a sheep) on my back.
Kate couldn't even handle a field trip once for a couple hours. She tweeted that is was boring! I even did a post on it.
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Oh wow, I remember that.
Furthering the sense that this is about Kate's pattern of "what's in it for me?".
If you look back at the shows and in Kate's journals, you see a pattern of carrots getting dangled in front of Kate to get her to move along and do what it took to film.
From the many projects that involved J+K's home where basically the episodes revolved around getting things for free (gosh not to mention the lavish trips), to Kate's getting $750 upon returning from travel for filming (she was PISSED that her little bonus check was so little), to a nice pampered end to the RV filming, with a few days spent in Vegas at the Ritz Carlton.
Like super model Linda Evangelista said, " I don't get out of bed for less than $10,000 a day.
I don't think Kate can mentally handle day after day after day where you're getting out of bed in service of others with little to nothing in return but knowing you're doing your job as a parent. She must have something in it for her, or knowing that she'll be getting a vacation away from the kids, in order to make it through the day.
Oh wow, I remember that.
Furthering the sense that this is about Kate's pattern of "what's in it for me?".
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Exacttttly. If I recall what happened, she had tweeted she was going along on the field trip and the sheeple asked how it was, and she said it was kinda boring.
Sigh. What Kate doesn't understand is that most people when they ask an adult how was the field trip are not asking how YOU felt about the field trip. Many adults would not independently go to the places you go to on field trips. Generally one would assume they are asking how the field trip was in relationship to the kids--was it fun, did they have fun, was it educational, would you recommend it for other kids.
Sure, I wouldn't go on a nature hike probably, not on my own choosing. Heck I might find such a thing boring if I were on my own. That is...not....the....point. It was about the kids, not the adults.
It's like she literally cannot step out of her own narcissistic shell and understand the field trip was about the children and their education and fun, not on what the chaperone thought or what else they'd rather be doing. It's quite amazing to watch and it's partly why I'm still here. It's a fascinating personality disorder.
Exacttttly. If I recall what happened, she had tweeted she was going along on the field trip and the sheeple asked how it was, and she said it was kinda boring.
Sigh. What Kate doesn't understand is that most people when they ask an adult how was the field trip are not asking how YOU felt about the field trip. Many adults would not independently go to the places you go to on field trips. Generally one would assume they are asking how the field trip was in relationship to the kids--was it fun, did they have fun, was it educational, would you recommend it for other kids.
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In grade school, I LOVED when my mother was able to be one of our chaperones/helpers on field trip. She filmed me and my classmates doing all of those fun games like toilet paper roll and sack races and I get such a kick out of watching it to this day.
It was work for her, but fun for us and she never complained or looked bored. Quite the opposite actually.
Can NOT imagine her face in a phone, distracted by social media, instead of being in the moment and interacting with everyone.
Didn't Kate also tweet about being bored while at a parent conference type thing at the school?
Sure, I wouldn't go on a nature hike probably, not on my own choosing. Heck I might find such a thing boring if I were on my own. That is...not....the....point. It was about the kids, not the adults.
It's like she literally cannot step out of her own narcissistic shell and understand the field trip was about the children and their education and fun, not on what the chaperone thought or what else they'd rather be doing. It's quite amazing to watch and it's partly why I'm still here. It's a fascinating personality disorder.
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It indeed is a fascinating personality disorder. I've gone on quite a few field trips that weren't to my liking, natural hikes included (in 100 degree heat), but I went because my kids wanted me to go. It was about them, and not about me. Not everyone likes the same things. Did I suffer through them? Yes, but the important thing was that the kids were having a good time as well as an educational experience. If I were asked about the trip, I'd say that the kids had fun and the teachers/school did a good job organizing it.
@MY_3BCOLLIES @Kateplusmy8 Kate has such a personal story 2tell abt overcoming adversity! I hope one day she has the time 2write it! :)
Adversity! Say what? Was that her poor middle class upbringing, the adversity of being a middle child with strict parents? Or the adversity of not getting the car of her dreams when she was 16? The adversity that forced her to leave home and grift off the bf's parents? Milo is smoking something tonight.
How does Tamara Barney's ex and father of their 3 kids get to say NO to filming his kids
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What I think? California. You have a decent chance of getting a very father-friendly judge. Also they are more than wiling to control filming of minors if they want to. If he had good reasons why they shouldn't be filmed and was able to show it was not in their best interest, many judges would side with him. Best interest trumps everything in CA. That show is an embarrassment in Orange County and if they hit a judge who doesn't like it, he might be in good shape. This is not like PA where only a few shows will ever grace the state and a judge might feel pressure to be friendly to productions. There are a hundred other shows like OC and no judge is going to shed any tears if their rulings even shut down production, who cares.
The article does ring a little bit suspicious though. It says the producers even offered to pay the kids. Well, in CA you HAVE to pay the kids reality show or not, so that's hardly upping the ante. It's not a bargaining chip if they have to do it anyway.
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Oh wow, I remember that.
Furthering the sense that this is about Kate's pattern of "what's in it for me?".
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Exacttttly. If I recall what happened, she had tweeted she was going along on the field trip and the sheeple asked how it was, and she said it was kinda boring.
Sigh. What Kate doesn't understand is that most people when they ask an adult how was the field trip are not asking how YOU felt about the field trip. Many adults would not independently go to the places you go to on field trips. Generally one would assume they are asking how the field trip was in relationship to the kids--was it fun, did they have fun, was it educational, would you recommend it for other kids.
Sure, I wouldn't go on a nature hike probably, not on my own choosing. Heck I might find such a thing boring if I were on my own. That is...not....the....point. It was about the kids, not the adults.
It's like she literally cannot step out of her own narcissistic shell and understand the field trip was about the children and their education and fun, not on what the chaperone thought or what else they'd rather be doing. It's quite amazing to watch and it's partly why I'm still here. It's a fascinating personality disorder.
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But why doesn't she get that she can get things out of faking feelings? I get why she doesn't do it for her kids, why she can't just be like every other mom and put on a smile and ask their opinions, then wait til they are out of earshot and sigh deeply and complain to a friend. I cant get why for someone who is so obsessed with manipulating others to fit how she wants to be thought of why she doesn't see how much better her reputation would be if she could fake, I guess, healthy human emotions.
Twitter and blogs have to be the easiest communications devices on earth to manipulate. Yet she still tweets things that make her look very bad.
Kate is the only woman I can think of whose become a WORSE actress after having MORE time in the spotlight. If someone goes back and compares her performances from the first special TLC did to the last season of JK+8, DWTS, K+8 and other media of her you can see her almost devolving. She can't see that doing fairly small, minor, and cheap things would yeild much bigger benifits for her in the end. Keeping just 2 tups most interested in gymnastics after that episode and she could have gotten great Olympic tie-in publicity. Take an hour or 2 to learn to photograph food well and she could still have a cooking blog or a bigger cookbook launch. Turning down presents sent to the kids from strangers and tweeting or RT a favorite charity link, something that takes seconds, and poof! Great publicity.
I just don't get it. Though that's not a new feeling when it comes to evaluating Kate.
I just don't get it. Though that's not a new feeling when it comes to evaluating Kate.
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I think there are many who don't get it. We've said so often that she just is not capable of thinking before she acts or tweets. That #superfunsandy was a perfect example of this. Why she can't stand back and look at her mistakes, and then figure out what she should be doing to come across as being a likeable person, even if she has to fake it. That's what makes her personality disorder so fascinating -- that she can't look at herself and see what others see, and then fix it. She has no idea what acceptable behavior is in a certain situation. Robert Burns, the Scottish poet, said it best in his "To A Louse"...
"O wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!"
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