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«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 1399 Newer› Newest»I bet it was one of those stories that she pulled half from her own imagination and half from things that have happened to her over the past 10 years into one big gigantic convoluted story to justify getting herself a new Fiat. Just about the only part I believe are the tire alignment and the Fiat.
I really think one of the biggest problems with that story is she didn't mention a word about it on twitter. If she had such an eventful day why wouldn't you take to twitter about it? She puts everything else on there.
Kate sure does sound like she is subtly (like a brick) trying to tell ditsy-misty milo that she doesn't like being named after a dog! Now she's offering alternative names like "latte". Haha
meinatlanta
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 - I think I have been very clear..."We" must approve anyone you date, Kate! (Not Kidding) *Wink
Who in the heck IS this Milo clone? Where did she come from, and why the lovefest?
You know, if someone wrote this into a script, it would have to be fiction because nobody would ever believe it.
Going by what everyone here is saying about her latest article ( I'm still not going to take the time to go over to that site to read it) if it's about her car breaking down, a tow truck, a driver, and whatever else, it's telling me she's run out of things to blog about. Not that she's ever had anything of interest TO write about but it sounds pretty BORING.
Without all this self-created drama in her life with twitter and so on her life would be as dull as dishwater.
Barb in Nebraska - I just read your post. Sending you well wishes for a speedy recovery and the same for your fellow passengers.
This is the second accident a 15 minute commenter has had. Good grief.
Moose - I hope you are on the mend as well.
KK keeps talking about having to go to ''work'', yet hasn't announced to her loving followers exactly what that ''work'' is. Is she hinting for them to ask her about her job? If so, I don't think anyone has figured that out. Or have they, and I missed it?
Yes, I am going there.
Heidi Klum vs Katie Kreider.
Un, Son Henry gets pulled out by a riptide, Maman Heidi goes Bionic and pulls him from WatDr. Hero Mom!!!
Katie did what?. Oh, yeah, sic some teen goon on her"h8rs"
puhlease
franky
obie said... 183
''The wringing of hands over a 'missing' tweeter is actually kind of entertaining. Like a real live soap opera.
People, calm down. Someone has called for a welfare check on this 'missing' person.
Out. of. control.
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Obie, I don't think it is one bit ''entertaining'' that a person was so upset over Bv outing her, giving her name, address and phone number, when she is a single mother with a minor child. The very fact that the police went to her house for a welfare check on the woman means that the police thought it necessary to be sure she was ok.
Obie... You. Are. Out. Of. Line.
I'm trying to figure out this class action lawsuit with multiple defendants. From the little bit I know, this would be a defendant class action lawsuit because there would be several defendants. I'm not sure what attorney would touch this, though, because if there are 77 plaintiffs and 10 defendants, plaintiff 1 may have a different complaint against defendant 1 than plaintiff 77 has against that person. How in the world does an attorney sort that out? What if defendant 4 never even had any contact with plaintiff 8?
I don't see how it can be a class action lawsuit. It would be entirely different if it were a plaintiff class action suit against one defendant. It would seem to me that for those who claim they were bullied it would be better for them to go after each person they claimed was responsible for bullying them.
What would the damages be? You have to be prepared to show damages. I just have a feeling that, as a class action, it's never going to make it to court.
Midnight Madness said...
If anything, people were shocked when they read these details. What I do recall being posted are the kudos that finally someone called her out for allegedly doing these things while at the same time she was presenting herself as a Christian mother, loving parent...and everything she did was for her kids. I think people were just sick of the hypocrisy
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Yes--and that info is now out there and our observations and fears were 100% validated. We were all right about her and our perceptions of her behavior. When will it be enough? What has to happen for people to finally feel that she has been punished enough? She is a delusional, sick, empty and rage full person who is unstable and volatile. I fear for her children's safety if she goes off the deep end. We are watching her unravel every single day.
Everyone who has paId any attention to this mess already knows the truth. What is the point of getting it out there again? Anyone that still doesn't believe that she abused her children --her babies!!-- will never believe it. She has all but faded from the public eye--until this mess. And, yes, there have been people cheering that Hoffman has re-emerged and is rereleasing his book. And what does he bring? Sordid details. So, I don't think it is a stretch to say that there are people here that are cheering for sordid details. Does she deserve this? Yes, I believe she does--but, that doesn't make it right. And it will hurt 8 innocent kids.
So, yes, I will agree to disagree.
Uh, she hasn't been punished AT ALL. She is a filthy rich d lister whose biggest problem is her sports car breaking down. For starters she could admit she exploited her kids repeatedly and agree not to exploit her abused children anymore. That would help mend fences tremendously.
Barb, so sorry you were in an accident. Hope you will be back to normal soon.
Thanks for the update tweet le Dee.
American Civil Liberties Union, ACLU, supports free speech. Even when they don't like what you say necessarily, like Larry Flynt or KKK or neo Nazis, you still have a right to say it.
I can say that anyone who would be mean to Tony Dovolani on Dancin With Them Thar Stars must be an evil person. I can call DWTS Dancin With Them Thar Stars all I want to. I can say that Aunt Jodi was the only reason to watch. I could make a parody ad and, like Larry Flynt did to Jerry Falwell, imply that Ms Kreider had improper carnal relations in an outhouse. I can say that Chicken McNuggets is a poopyhead. I can say that high colonics are an art form.
The ACLU would say ” we don't agree with you (except for Tony and Aunt Jodi) but we will support your right to say those things”.
I was going to focus on basketball tomorrow, but I will be checking back regularly. Its the train wreck you can't look away from, its the twidiot gift that keeps on giving, its the energizer bunny of twidiots!
lillianbates86
@Kateplusmy8 Kate, it says so much about u that u forgive those who've done u wrong! What a great and inspirational person you are! Bravo!
Doesn't this just make you want to grab a double shot of anything, straight up?
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@Kateplusmy8 @MeInAtlanta @MiloandJack I've been trying to get her to meet me at the Spa at the Hotel Hershey for weeks :-)
Here's what Kate has done. She tells her fans that she loves them. She treats them like they have been her friends forever. They are all strangers, but they believe that Kate will just go off and have a love-in with them at a spa.
It took me 2 seconds to figure out that the strawberry person closed her account and opened a new one. She was tweeting while the haters were calling her and the police. If I was her I would be scared to death of the haters calling the police to check up on her. She wants to be left alone that's understandable. So why don't the haters just leave her alone?
Susie Cincinnati I will say it plain and simple. Kate had a lot of freaking time on her hands. Let's add that she was( is) extremely lazy, monster mom and many enablers who kept quiet!
No TLC show = Kate had to work a full time job! Kids would have spent their time with loving family or baby sitters! After working 8 hours, plus normal housework Kate would have been to tired to raise her hands against her babies. How do I come with that scenario, I was a working mom and I was exhausted at the end of the day!
To sum it up because we( the viewers) watched that stupid show we indirectly contributed to the ugliness that went on in that house.
Admin. What makes you think that the Bully who lives in Bullyville is not coming after 15 Min. His first interview with Radar he said he was going after people who called Kate a child abuser. Many people here did just that!
And it will hurt 8 innocent kids.
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They've been hurt, exploited and suffered quite a bit at the hands of their mother. Maybe if Robert's book is published, some others will have the courage to step forward and speak out about what they've witnessed. Maybe Jon will finally be able to get full custody of the children. You don't know that the publication of this book will hurt the children. Maybe when they are grown, they will express some appreciation that at least one person tried to get the truth out there.
Either way, I still think it's incorrect to say we are cheering for the sordid details. But it's a world full of free choice. I guess I'm surprised you'd want to continue to post here if you think so little of us.
The very fact that the police went to her house for a welfare check on the woman means that the police thought it necessary to be sure she was ok.
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And it shows that there are enough people in the world who care about the welfare of someone they don't even know. What kind of a place would it be if someone wished they were dead, and everyone who saw this in print thought it was entertaining? You err on the side of caution. If all is well and good, then you know that you did your part in making sure that the person is safe. Nobody knows to what extent this person suffered; nobody knows how fragile this person is. Someone cared, which is exactly how it should be. It's called compassion.
There is NOTHING amusing about someone hurting themselves or wanting to die. You don't want to wonder why somebody didn't do something and then, too late, realize that you are somebody who could have helped.
Barb in Nebraska, about a year ago I said that I wanted to hold your hand (and chefsummer's hand) when we were all being told to stick together for something going on here on this site.
Now I wish I had held it a little tighter.
I am praying for a full recovery for you and for everyone involved in the accident.
Blessings.
BV is hoping the ACLU will handle the case.
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Okay, this gave me a true long laugh. I wish I could be a fly on the wall in the ACLU office when they are reviewing this proposed class action lawsuit. That is, if they give it more than five minutes of their time before asking a staff member to send out a form "thanks, but not interested" letter.
Whoa, whoa, whoa stop the clock (anyone?)...Shoka was AWOL today but it was only for an hour or two so all is good (per Kate). Tips is not the first time that Shoka's gotten out. If my boy went missing for even 10 minutes I'd be frantic and would damn well figure out how he got out and fix the problem. Of course my boy is not allowed out if we're not home.
Kate tweeted...
A long day of work, a furry child gone 'AWOL' (he just loves to roam!) and science experiments with Mady and Cara. Time to sleep, hooray!GN!
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Kate had a long day of work (????) and Shoka went missing again. Geez...
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 1h
@KrystalRansom ignore her. Walk over her (If on floor, throwing fit). She is looking for a reaction :) don't give her one:) GL...
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Kate demonstrates once again that she knows very little about early childhood development.
A 19-month old having a melt down is very typical during the terrible twos, which extends into the three's. In many cases, a child of that age is going through tremendous growth and change (physically, emotionally, mentally) and sometimes it's overwhelming. Melt downs often coincide with such growth spurts. It can also simply be due to over-tiredness. It's best not to attribute something negative to the melt-down, because often the child really doesn't have the ability to control. Ignore it, by letting the child safely have that melt-down. Make sure any sharp objects or anything that the child might hurt itself on, are out of range.
Once the melt down has passed (the wild tempest), move in, take your child in your arms, rock him or her, and soothe them. Get them a drink of water or milk. Let them calm down in your arms, then move on.
We were lighting virtual candles for child abuse victims. Remember?? Really unfair characterization of how most people reacted. It was so bad some people said they were so upset by it they needed to get away for awhile.
imply that Ms Kreider had improper carnal relations in an outhouse.
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Time for me to put down the rumspringa. I just read this as "had improper camel relations in an outhouse."
As for Jon's involvement in Robert getting the details,facts or what ever you want to call it...why the hell does it even matter??
Who cares how the information came to light.The facts are...8 children and 2 dogs are/were being ABUSED by Kate Gosselin. 8 children are suffering and nothing is being done.For some reason, Kate is untouchable.
I will say it again...8! Count them 8 children are being abused!
TLC knows this,they were there.They did nothing but make money off the kids backs and covered their OWN asses. They threatened and bound Jons ass so tight that he can't even protect his OWN children. I believe Jon was backed into a corner and can't say a damn word about anything.TLC is not worried about protecting Kate,they are only worried about themselves. Jon tried going to court...many times and was shot down. He was/is put out as the dead beat dad who walked out on 8 kids and only wants his piece of the pie. Kate is the saint who lives every moment for the kids,doing it all by herself. Fucking please!!
So when does a contract become null and void? When can someone report abuse and be taken seriously?
Kate is still abusing the kids till this day. She robs them of anything that might give them joy. Simple things like food...childhoods....happiness.
These are not well adjusted normal functioning children.They have emotional and behavioral issues. These kids are crying out for help. But yet...no help is coming. Defeated,dead eyes and no smiles coming from the kids.
I could care less about WHO was finally able to shed the light on the abuse being done to these children. If Jon was involved I don't give a shit. That means he didn't give up and found a way to help his kids. I don't give a rat's ass if Robert makes money off this book. I'm going to buy it either way.
Kate is the ONLY one living large off this whole thing.The kid's are suffering and they are in need of help.
My foster dog is nestled against my leg as I type this. My other dog ia boycotting her and in the bedroom lol. The number one reason a neutered dog would roam so much is boredom. My heart breaks for that poor pup. Responsible dog owners don't find a lost roaming dog the least bit funny.
Shery no camels. Goats.
If they knew anything about ACLU they would realize they'd be on the free speech side not on the shut down side.
If my boy went missing for even 10 minutes I'd be frantic and would damn well figure out how he got out and fix the problem. Of course my boy is not allowed out if we're not home.
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I go outside with mine, even though the yard is fenced in. If mine went missing at all I'd be hysterical. Two hours to Kate is nothing. What if she found him dead along the road? This woman should not be allowed to have any pets.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 12
Uh, she hasn't been punished AT ALL. She is a filthy rich d lister whose biggest problem is her sports car breaking down. For starters she could admit she exploited her kids repeatedly and agree not to exploit her abused children anymore. That would help mend fences tremendously.
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Never going to happen. She is delusional, out-of-touch with reality and lives in a fantasy world. In Kate's world she has been punished because she STILL doesn't have her own reality show chronicling her awesomeness every minute. She doesn't have gift cards magically appearing in her mailbox. She isn't a spokesperson for a cosmetics company, She has failed at most of the things that we mediocre people consider important. She has no future. She is a punchline and a joke.
In the real world, her 'plight' is ridiculous. But, the day her bubble bursts will be a day of hell for her children. When she flames out, it will be spectacular.
I guess my real question is, "when will her children be punished enough?" The twins must be absolutely mortified. And, soon, if not already, so will the tups. Kate doesn't need anyone else to hurry the process along. She will live out her days as one of the most miserable people to walk the earth and it will always be someone else's fault.
As for Jon's involvement in Robert getting the details,facts or what ever you want to call it...why the hell does it even matter??
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Because Robert said that Jon had no involvement and if it would happen to turn out that he was not truthful, it would throw his credibility into doubt...not only about how he got it, but also the content.
I don't think that this is true, but that's why it might matter as to how he got the information.
Barb In Nebraska -
Oh dear, Barb, your accident sounds horrible/scary. I'm relieved to know you're okay. Take care!
Lukebandit -
Glad to hear you're back home again. Stay out of the hospital, ya hear!
So why don't the haters just leave her alone?
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Read post #16.
Something similar happened to the daughter of a friend of mine. She had been depressed and expressed her loneliness and anxiety on FB, and one morning said she was going to end it all. She just wanted to be left alone to die. Some of her internet "friends" who were actually strangers, saw her messages, were quite concerned, did some detective work, figured out where she lived and they were able to obtain her name through other sources. The police showed up at her door to check on her. She was fine, but her mother was in total shock because she had no idea as to the extent of the girl's emotional state. She put on a very convincing happy face at home. The girl agreed to therapy, and she is fine now, thanks to some young people on the internet who cared.
As for Kate being the victim of bullying? Get a fricking clue!
I don't do the twitter thing...I don't read her blogs or go to where ever she might be posting some BS. I pretty much get my kate info from here.
If I see a story on kate I pretty much add a simple comment of Kate Gosselin is a Child and Animal abuser and direct them to Roberts book.
I will admit,I watched Jon and Kate from the beginning. I thought how the heck to they do it. After a short time I saw what was going on and found a blog or 2 who thought the same things I did. I stopped watching right after the divorce.....no excuses...I never looked back.
This woman is not being bullied as far as I can tell. She is being called out on her BS...her lies.
I hate Kate Gosselin. I don't hate many things,but I do her. She is a veil,evil, nasty woman who abuses the kids and animals. I want to see her get what she has coming to her. No thats not wishing her death or anything like that. I'm not stalking her, or even making a voodoo doll.
I just refuse to give her the attention she so craves. I won't engage in anything to encourage her....I don't care if her car broke down or if she bought a new one....what show she might get on. OMG! she has a cook book? I must follow the comments....She is not worth my time.
Like I said if I stumble on something with her....I say she is a child and animal abuser see Roberts book.
Again...I hate Kate Gosselin. I hope some day people will see her for what she is. I did not bully her,I spoke my mind,I gave my opinion. I have nothing to apologize for. She puts herself into public viewing...she has nothing to bitch about!
...@MiloandJack: @irishfan47 @Kateplusmy8 LOL...I'm not asking 4 a date! Kate already knows what I look like! :)
I still wonder if Kate didn't meet up with Milo while on her trip to that beach last year. Wasn't it in Texas? Kate could easily have made her route go through Milo's area. Maybe that Atlanta tweeter was responsible for the free beach house. She seems to be pretty well off.
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I agree it is a good chance the "source" is Al W. Wasn't Robert going to share his info for Al's book and ended up not doing it? Al seems mad that he lost out on all that stuff. (jellus? LOL)
See one of the most important though simple strategies of a litigator is to try to find one lie in the story then say see, the entire story isn't credible now!
However, this doesn't work when there is a perfectly logical and most likely probable explanation for the lie.
I believe Robert that Jon wasn't involved. However, let's assume for argument's sake he was. Obviously, the reason Robert said so was probably to protect him, to fall on the sword for his friend, to do his friend who had helped him so much a favor and spare him the wrath for being involved--to protect him. Nothing more nothing less. It does nothing to cast doubt on the rest of the story IMO because it has nothing to do with credibility and everything to do with covering for someone. A lie to cover for someone is not the same as making things up then writing a book about it.
Now if we were to find out, say, that some of the letters in the book were fabricated, then heck yes, the entire rest of the book is suspect. But this isn't a lie like that would be.
Franky said..."Maman Heidi goes Bionic and pulls him from WatDr."
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Who or what is a WatDr and why was WatDr holding her son?
Now if we were to find out, say, that some of the letters in the book were fabricated, then heck yes, the entire rest of the book is suspect. But this isn't a lie like that would be.
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Right, but then there's the argument that you if you lied about one thing, then it's possible that you lied about another thing (such as content) and just didn't get caught in the second lie...yet.
Ex Nurse said... 30
''......In the real world, her 'plight' is ridiculous. But, the day her bubble bursts will be a day of hell for her children. When she flames out, it will be spectacular.
I guess my real question is, "when will her children be punished enough?" The twins must be absolutely mortified. And, soon, if not already, so will the tups.''
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I think the children live every day of hell. Her children have been mortified about their mother for years. As shocked as we all were when we read her journals detailing the violent abuse of her toddlers, I am positive we would be just as shocked if we learned details of her behavior now!
You could also argue the exact opposite, that not releasing information about bad deeds perpetrated against them hurts the kids. I think no one can no for sure what choices are going to hurt or help the kids. Heck, maybe the kids won't even be all on the same page, for instance some may be glad people spoke out, others horrified. Eight unique kids, eight unique reactions to what has gone down here since they were babies.
All you can do is just make your own decision and judgments and hope for the best for the kids.
.......hit publish too soon.
The children are suffering because of KK's behavior, NOT that someone is or is not exposing KK.
Right, but then there's the argument that you if you lied about one thing, then it's possible that you lied about another thing (such as content) and just didn't get caught in the second lie...yet.
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Right, but see that's exactly what I'm trying to explain. That that argument is not as strong when the motivation for the lie in question is just to protect someone who doesn't want to be involved, and not to "get" somebody. A lie to get somebody (Kate) versus a lie to try to help someone who doesn't want to be involved stay out of it are two different things. One casts doubt on the entire book, the other, IMO, doesn't.
Say some children wrote a tell-all about their mother, but one child was so shy to be included as an author they asked the other children to lie and say they weren't involved. Just because the other children might get caught in a lie covering for their sibling doesn't mean that has a single thing to do with the truth of the actual CONTENT of what they wrote. Two completely different things.
Now say those same children were caught in a lie about a story about DisneyLand when it fact it was discovered they had never even set foot in California? Then THAT lie would cast credibility on the whole book, absolutely.
lillianbates86
@Kateplusmy8 Kate, it says so much about u that u forgive those who've done u wrong! What a great and inspirational person you are! Bravo!
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Oh goody gumdrops Kate finally has something to put on the "Inspiration" page of her website. Except for the photo of Taylor Swift it's been blank since 2011.
Kate accepts an apology for the first time in her life and suddenly she's inspirational. Gimme a break.
I wonder if Collin ever apologized to her after he got spanked and whipped into his crib for tipping over those highchairs. I hope she forgives him too.
Over And Out said... 36
Franky said..."Maman Heidi goes Bionic and pulls him from WatDr."
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Who or what is a WatDr and why was WatDr holding her son?
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I'm sure you're just pulling Franky's leg here, so here goes: Kate doesn't like WatDr to get her wet even when she's playing in the WatDr. She always throws cold WatDr on everyone's fun.
I cannot argue the opposite. The kid's have been suffering at the hands of Kate. We have seen what they have been living through. We have seen the dead eyes,the no smiles...the pleas to stay with their dad.
The kid's right now have no idea what it means to be to be true to themselves.They will always be in the protective mode.To protect their brothers and sisters.The only bond that holds true to them is the bond they have with each other.
You are right Admin...the children are unique ...but yet....they have never been given the right to be unique. They are in pack mode. Yet again...a form of abuse!
My theory on Kate's latest blog is she knew Robert's book was coming out again soon and wanted people to not judge her by it's false content. It's her way of indirectly saying Robert is a liar. I don't think it had anything to do with her car. She still can't even say what was wrong with it. Come on now, several days later and they don't know what's wrong with it yet? Very clever, Kate. NOT. She's very nervous about this.
"At times, we might all say we feel justified in being the judge -- stating our opinions of others loudly, but until it's our turn to be the book, in the hands of a judge who is unwilling to “read” us, yet states our “contents” falsely, we often don't understand what hurtful damage an uninformed judge can do! I have learned that I prefer to be neither the judge nor the book, but that I can only control the former and I have actively chosen to do so replacing my judgment of others with understanding and respect."
Maybe Kate doesn't know the status of the Audi because she's no longer the owner. ;-)
OMG, I am godsmacked that Kate told a mother with a toddler to IGNORE the child when having a meltdown. Doesn't either one realize the #1 reason the child is screaming and acting is because they don't have the words or the ability to verbalize themselves? There are some that you can ignore like but not always. It depends on the situation. I've seen parents slap And yell at their children because they would not stop screaming and crying. It only makes it worse. They don't stop to think maybe it's because of oversimiluation, past lunchtime, tired, or loaded on sugar. it's not a good idea to ignore and disregard the child's safety like that. It's not always the child's fault. It's the way their body & brain are reacting to the immediate situation.
Remember Alexis had a meltdown because she wanted a bagel but Kate refused. I didn't realize it at the time but I know now it was because she wanted them kept on schedule. Eat only at certain times, according to her. I think that is odd because children will get hungry at different times when you have that many children. Everyone processes their food and engery differently. So Alexis got hungry sooner one day and wanted to eat. I dont do that to my family. It's cruel to withdraw food until a certain time.
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 12
Uh, she hasn't been punished AT ALL. She is a filthy rich d lister whose biggest problem is her sports car breaking down. For starters she could admit she exploited her kids repeatedly and agree not to exploit her abused children anymore. That would help mend fences tremendously.
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Never going to happen. She is delusional, out-of-touch with reality and lives in a fantasy world.
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Exactly KK will never admit she's using her children for fame.
She will also never admit that she "Needs" them to stay in the lime light.
NJGal51 said... 20
Whoa, whoa, whoa stop the clock (anyone?)...Shoka was AWOL today but it was only for an hour or two so all is good (per Kate). Tips is not the first time that Shoka's gotten out. If my boy went missing for even 10 minutes I'd be frantic and would damn well figure out how he got out and fix the problem. Of course my boy is not allowed out if we're not home.
April 5, 2013 at 9:50 PM
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This just goes to show who and what KK really cares about.(Herself.)
She doesn't care about her 8 safety or the dogs.
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My pup got out of my gate while I was taking out the trash.
I went back inside and could find him I was scared.
Lucky for me he had chase my neighbors dog into her yard and she called me over to get my boy.
Now he and his sister are all ways leashed when we go out.
Over And Out said..."36"
Franky said..."Maman Heidi goes Bionic and pulls him from WatDr."
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Who or what is a WatDr and why was WatDr holding her son?
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It's a typo. I'm sure it's supposed to say Water. Heidi pulled her son out of a riptide earlier in the week.
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The following tweets are all from one fan and this fan needs a wake up call! One of the "haters" posted the quote from the book about yanking a child up by the hair and beating him into his crib to which the fan replied:
@xxxxxx @Xxxxxx @Kateplusmy8 that is laughable! Wow!! Lol punching a child in the face is abuse. You can't be serious!! LOL HAHAHA
@xxxxxx @xxxxxx @Kateplusmy8 go help children who are beaten black and blue and taken to child services. They need your help and your time.
@xxxxxx @xxxxxx @Kateplusmy8 harassing someone for pulling their kids hair is insane. My mom pulled my hair. OH NO!! Lol
I hope she doesn't have any kids. I'm not sure if she's really a fan or just someone that came over from BV.
My theory on Kate's latest blog is she knew Robert's book was coming out again soon and wanted people to not judge her by it's false content.
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OK, here's my take on that. I see it as Kate reluctantly almost - almost - copping to the truth in the book.
The man WAS greasy and dirty (because of the service he provides). His truck WAS dirty. No disputing those facts. But in her hour of need, Kate decided it would serve her well to make the best of a bad situation.
Using that as an analogy to her own life, Kate admits she has been shown to be a screamer with a very short temper and an overzealous insistence on order. She can be downright mean, and her children have lived with that. These are the facts, as seen on TV. Robert's book only tells us more details about what we already knew.
OK, Kate says, the book may be factual. That will come out sooner or later. But can't you be nice to me anyway? I was nice to this guy. Your turn. Make the best (for me) of a bad situation. Or I'll sic Ville on you.
I surely don't understand people continually saying that Kate is an amazing mom.
They don't know her personally (presumably), and only have seen what we have seen. If they think that's a good mom, I'd sure hate to see what they think is a bad mom!
Let's throw tomatoes said...(154)
"But the fact that TLC offered her a show and we watched gave her the time, the opportunity,and the power to commit what in many other states is called a crime to beat babies in such a terrible way!
In a way we gave her the opportunity to beat her kids and she took it!"
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Tomatoes, I get that you are very passionate about this and I totally get that and respect it. I have to disagree however that by merely watching the show, anyone "gave her the opportunity" to beat her kids.
If anything, the fact that there were so many handlers and crew around likely prevented much worse abuse.
No, I don't believe that just because someone watched the show they should somehow feel responsible for Kate's atrocious behaviour. That, is all on her.
This Bullyville stuff is very disturbing. Did you all hear that J.L. Hughley called the judges on DWTS "bullies"? In times past, these were CRITICS. A critic calls it as he sees it, positive or negative. A few years back, "critics" became "haters" (with its implied lack of kindness or morals). Now we have gone further down the path or condemning critics by calling them "bullies" (which implies downright evil).
Critics have been around since the beginning of time. I'm sure Abraham and Isaac had their critics, and we know Moses did. Kate and Bullyville and J.L. Hughley need to get over themselves. May this backfire on Kate spectacularly. How ironic that Kate the biggest bully of them all is calling foul when others call her out on bullying her kids and others. Isn't that what a REAL bully does--aren't they typically cowards at heart? Who are the real bullies? Kate and McGiblets.
One upper for the many dog lovers here.... I have a friend from Brazil, hardworking and honest. She cleans my house on the side and a few others on the side and is also the housekeeping manager of a large property. She loves dogs, but can't have them because she's never home and her little son has allergies.
People leave an amazing amount of dog stuff behind in the rooms. I am her "dog person," the one she brings dog stuff to, but I have all need. It occurred to me the other day to ask her to bring it all over when she came to clean, and I'd drive it to the local shelter. We'd gotten one of our dogs there, and a woman has the shelter set up at her HOME.
Well, my friend not only brought all kinds of gourmet food and treats and a big dog dish, but about a dozen fluffy white comforters along with queen sheets. All had flaws or stains and couldn't be used for customers. The woman at the shelter was thrilled. She said they would farm out what they didn't need to unheated shelters around the state. I told them there will be more.... My friend is worked to death at this hotel chain, so this made her feel good, too. Like something good was coming from it at least.
Blessings and best wishes to those like Barb who have had car accidents, njay with her fire, and lukebandit who is recovering.
Over And Out said... 39
en mijn antwoord daar op is dat jij een zeikerd bent!
I love Franky and her mystery posts!
Fido's mommy 56...I think you're on to something there...sadly.
P.S. I love the names "McGiblets" and "McNiblets" (thanks, AuntieAnn!) They sound like something McDonalds just added to their menu, complete with barbecue and ranch sauce!
I'm astounded that Kate would feel so free to so completely and publicly diss a man who was just trying to help.
How do you think that poor guy must feel after reading all that?
Her defenders have always said that people are wrong to call her out on her behavior, because she's human, just trying to do her best, and she has feelings. Did you hear that? She has *feelings*!!!!
Um...and you think this guy doesn't have feelings? He wasn't even beating his kids or his dogs. He was just doing his job, helping a motorist with her broken car.
Reminds me of when she dissed the housekeeper on one of the shows. How humiliating for that poor woman.
She and the tow truck driver don't have the resources to sue her for libel like the former house owner wanted to when she dissed him about the filthy frig.
That poor man will get nothing in exchange for being publicly dissed, nor will the housekeeper.
Hmmm...she's so big on *public* apologies right now. How about she issue a PUBLIC apology to these people that she has PUBLICLY dissed?
Publicly dissed, not just dissed on a blog or twitter where you have to go searching for it.
How about it? Stand up and do the right thing for once.
Nah, we're talking Kate here. It's all about her and *her* feelings. Screw anyone else's feelings.
Virginia Pen Mom, what a wonderful act of kindness. Your friend is a kind, decent soul.
Bless her heart, and yours too.
Have a beautiful weekend-
Pink
I think that fan who had her hair pulled by her mother could use some therapy to help her understand that she was an abused child and that it was not okay. My heart breaks for her.
I think when we're coming from such fundamentally different values such that the other side believes it's acceptable to pull a child's hair (or anyone's, man, woman, child or beast), that there really is no meeting in the middle. I will never understand adults who think that's the way to get a child to submit. Would you do that to the adult in the workplace, at church, in the grocery store when you want them to do something? No you'd probably end up arrested.
By the way, when a man pulls his girlfriend or wife around by the hair, it's domestic violence and grounds for a retraining order. Something to ponder.
I love reading the comments here and I love when there is respectful disagreement. It's interesting to read the perspective of someone who disagrees with what someone else is saying.
With regard to the abuse of the kids. We all know, according to Kate's own journals, that she physically abused her kids when they were young. We also know from watching her show that she was verbally and emotionally abusive to the kids as well as Jon. As far as her love taps to Jon, if my husband ever did that to me I would lay him out. And he knows that. As far as today goes, none of us know for sure what goes on in Kate's house. And lest the sheeple read here, let's make no mistake about the fact that the house is Kate's not the kids. No matter what she would have you believe, the house was bought for her ego not becasue the kids deserved it. However, I do believe in the future one of more of those kids will end up living full time with Jon. And I also believe in the future one or more of those kids is eventually going to rat their mother out. I don't think it will happen for a long time but it will eventually happen. In the meantime, I hope the kids have peace, happiness and feel secure to be themselves when they are with Jon because it doesn't seem they have that when they are with their mother. A poster above mentioned the kids being in pack mode. We all know that sometimes animals in pack mode are not pretty. Now, I'm NOT comparing the kids to animals. However, Kate better watch out when the tups are teenagers if they work together in a pack against her. It ain't gonna be pretty.
It is a gorgeous day here and I'm off to enjoy it with my girlfriend. Then I'll settle in for some awesome college basketball. Husband and I are going with Syracuse on the men's side and UCONN on the women's side. No matter who wins, the games should be good. Hope everyone has a great weekend.
Barb, I hope your healing is swift. That must have been horribly frightening. In those situations we don't usually have seat belts on. Take care and let us know how you are doing.
NJGal51 said... 20
Whoa, whoa, whoa stop the clock (anyone?)...Shoka was AWOL today but it was only for an hour or two so all is good (per Kate). Tips is not the first time that Shoka's gotten out. If my boy went missing for even 10 minutes I'd be frantic and would damn well figure out how he got out and fix the problem. Of course my boy is not allowed out if we're not home.
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Same here.
Dogs love going on adventures. It's the owner's responsibility to make sure that their pet is safe.
What would happen, if in defense, the dog bites someone? Or gets attacked by another animal?
Or if it catches a scent & runs out in front of a speeding car or truck?
Nope. Not happening. Not on my watch.
A few years back, "critics" became "haters" (with its implied lack of kindness or morals). Now we have gone further down the path or condemning critics by calling them "bullies" (which implies downright evil).
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I agree with all your comments. I think a few years ago people decided to start cracking down on bullying in schools and this is absolutely a good thing. However somewhere along the line some people decided that maybe it would be nice to clean up the entire world, adults and children alike, of criticism, free speech, and social commentary. Now, would it be nice if no one ever said an unkind word about anyone else ever again? I guess. But that's not really the basis for what a free democratic society is built on. Criticism and commentary is how society evolves and grows and is how we call out the bad and build up the good.
The problem is the stop bullying mantra has extended far beyond what the people who originally started it ever intended. It was supposed to stop over the top harassment in schools against the weak. It was not supposed to stop legitimate feedback by peers that EVERY child needs in order to grow up well adjusted socially, to be aware of themselves, and to understand how they are perceived.
A good example I always think of is a high school kid who doesn't shower. I see nothing wrong with people telling him he stinks and he should shower. He NEEDS that feedback to understand that when you are too lazy to shower, it offends other people. He will usually start showering and the problem is solved. Under the new end bullying campaign, suddenly his peers aren't even allowed to mention his odor. The child never learns that not showering is disrespectful to others and offensive, and he ends up in college with a roommate who hates him because he's nasty.
As far as extending the anti bullying campaign to celebs, Dancing with the Stars, the Real Housewives, Kate--I just find it offensive. All that's happening in those situations is social commentary and criticism. And if anything ever stretches beyond that these people have plenty of ways to deal with it that are not at the disposal of bullied kids in schools. They can talk to their lawyer, they can use block functions or privacy functions, and if anything ever becomes a safety issue, they can involve law enforcement with three clicks on their phone, 9-1-1. This is how legit celebrities handle any criticism that goes too far. But expecting mere criticism, even very harsh criticism, to end when this is a country whose very foundation is free speech, is just fundamentally wrong.
Barb In Nebraska said... 136
I missed this whole week on the blog but I am just catching up today. I was in a serious rollover accident in a van that was taking me and 6 others to our hotel after landing at the airport. My friend and fared the best out of all the passengers but we still have a long road to recovery.
I have had many people help me out this week, from EMTs, to ER Drs, to nurses, to taxi cab drivers, valets and just people on the street opening doors for me. I thanked them all. Many times, I had a chance to ask their first name, and thanked them by name. I also gave tips to the many service workers.
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Good Lord, Barb. How frightening.
I'm glad you are alive & well (or getting better).
With love,
Pink
Mmmmmm... more reason to believe that Kate is copping to the facts in Robert's book:
Kateplusmy87 mins agovia TwitterrificTwitter.RT @Notebook:
You can't change what's happened in your past, so learn to live with it, before you let it destroy your future.
Oh my gosh, Barb...I am sorry sorry about your accident. Hope you are well.
I'd delete that info, though...sheeple are relentless and you never know what they are going to do with that info.
There is a group of about 14 of us, mainly women, who have lunch together every other Friday. It's a big company and we all work in different departments so we decided a few months ago to try and schedule a regular time we'd all get together.
Of course, many topics come up at these lunches and none of us can recall everyone agreeing on one thing. Until yesterday. I mentioned the Kate Gosselin v. everyone who dislikes her lawsuit and the response was universal. Not one person at the table had a good thing to say about Ms. Gosselin.
What a badge of honor for Kate. People of various ages, from various walks of life can all agree on one thing. They dislike you. One person brought up a list she saw on the internet that listed the most disliked women in America. She said Kate was no. 3, after Casey Anthony and Jodi Arias. When that is the general public perception of you, not based on what haters or Robert Hoffman says, but based on what people have seen of you on film, seems like you are beating your head against a tree to try and make it in the entertainment industry.
LB, Kate said Alexis had already eaten and only the twins were allowed bagels.I agree, would it hurt to give her a portion of one to see if she was really hungry or just wanted to be like her sisters? No big deal like Kate made it be.Bagels were 'rare treats' apparently????
Susie Cincinnati said... 4
meinatlanta
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 - I think I have been very clear..."We" must approve anyone you date, Kate! (Not Kidding) *Wink
Who in the heck IS this Milo clone? Where did she come from, and why the lovefest?
I don't really know but I think this Dianne may be part of Kate's new PR team. She sounds like a profesional woman (looking at her tweets) and she didn't start tweeting Kate & Milo until around March 16th and immediately started offering free copies of Kates new cookbook to Kate's followers. I noticed there was also some private conversations between the three of them.
I also think that Milo must be a relative or a friend of Kate's in real life.
Thanks Sheri, I am compassionate about beating babies, children especially your own. I feel guilty that I watched that stupid show and gave her the time to beat her kids! When I think back of my own life my happiest moments were when my kids were young! I still call them my babies!
I'm also a HUGE animal lover and I think that she doesn't care about Shoka and doesn't take care of him. In my neighborhood there are always coyote sightings and some dogs have disappeared from their fenced back yards. Shoka lives out in the country and I imagine with very little supervision. My dogs( also my babies) are never unattended!
Barb,your accident sounds terrible. Wish you a quick recovery!
Lukebandit, glad you are felling better! Saw your comment on Radar!
Barb In Nebraska said... 136
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Let me add my best wishes for a quick complete recovery to you and all who were injured. What a scary experience!
One more thing, I can't believe that the coverage about Robert's book so far has been that Jon is going to get money from the book sales!
Let me see: Kate Gosselin beat(s) her children and dogs!
Jon Gosselin wants to make money!
What the heck! They don't care that Kate beat her kids! I have news for those morons that write those articles, Jon is not going to have money until the youngest kids are 18. What is Jon's belongs to Kate!
That Bully who lives in Bullyville is powerful, I guess!!
Virginia Pen Mom said... 59
Kate and Bullyville and J.L. Hughley need to get over themselves. May this backfire on Kate spectacularly. How ironic that Kate the biggest bully of them all is calling foul when others call her out on bullying her kids and others. Isn't that what a REAL bully does--aren't they typically cowards at heart? Who are the real bullies? Kate and McGiblets.
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Oh I could not agree with you more. As far as I can tell all Mr. McGibbletyniblets has demonstrated is that he is a bigger bully than the people he is going after. How fortunate he came across Kate Gosselin to help put HIS name out there. Notice though that he's not going after the people that have been mentioned here like Andy Cohen, Jimmy Fallon and Anderson Cooper. They've all poked fun - oh sorry - BULLIED Kate on national television. Why aren't they being targeted by Bullyville?
And yes, what about the judges on Dancing with the Stars that 'bullied' Kate with their critiques of her dancing so much so that she shot poison darts out of her eyes at them. Then there's Tony Dovolani who obviously had to 'bully' her into learning how to count to four so she could at least tap her toes to the music.
Where are all these people on McGibney's hit list? Why isn't he going after them? Because he knows damn well if he did he'd be laughed off the planet for playing bullybuster for poor, fragile Kate Gosselin.
Some of my brothers are workmen. When they see someone with a broken down car, they'll stop to offer help, thinking that they're in their work clothes and they know how to do a lot of repairs, so it would be the right thing to do.
The poor people and the well-off people are soooo appreciative, and they ALWAYS offer cash as a thank you. The poor people are embarrassed that sometimes they only have a few dollars to offer. The well-off offer outrageous amounts, often $100, but sometimes as much as $500.
My brothers never accept any cash, telling people to pass it on. Our dad always said to do the right thing to help others, and to never accept payment for it.
The interesting piece is the wanna-be's like Kate. They look at my brothers like they're poop on her shoe. They look at them like they DESERVE to be helped, and they owe nothing for it. They aren't going to get *their* hands dirty. But nothing wrong with my brothers getting dirty/greasy.
They don't offer my brothers anything. If attitude is not too bad, my brothers will still help.
But if there's much attitude, like Kate must have shown her tow truck driver, they've been known to say, "Well, I don't think I can help. Good luck with that", and leave.
Our dad always said that we don't have to take sh*t off nobody.
Hmmmm....think Kate offered the guy a tip?
I don't really know but I think this Dianne may be part of Kate's new PR team. She sounds like a profesional woman
My thoughts exactly. She sounded like "PR" from her first tweet.
Hey fidosmommy and Goyour#kate, In my opinion I agree with what you are speculating as Kate sending a message in her bog about judging people by their appearance. " Judging a book by its cover" which is what she did to Mr. Tow truck Driver ( which I still believe did not happen, she may have a new car)...
However, people can and will be judged by their past behavior. Yes, we should forgive and forgive and forgive, but eventually you learn that person can no longer be trusted if they continue on a path of destruction.
Kate has many years ahead of her, and if she truly wants people to believe she has turned over a new leaf and become less anal, less OCD, more friendly, less demanding, more caring for those less fortunate then her, she will need to start to walk that talk daily, hourly, minutely ( lol).
It will take more then once in a blue moon paying for someone's coffee behind her at Starbucks!
Interesting that today, she did not say the full name of Starbucks, nor include them in her tweet.
Of course the above is all just my humble opinion!!!
..oopps, she must have realized she forgot to mention and include Starbucks in her tweets, because she just now did so, and many times....silly me...
See no turning over new leafs. If she had continued to not do her " Look at me Starbucks I am so special, you should grift me some freebies" then it might actually look like her Kndness had actually been guenuine.
Hard to believe someones caring attitude is genuine when its always being done in the limelight and appears to be in a grifting venue..
Of course this is all in my humble opinion!!
Judging doesn't mean overlooking wrongs. That's called enabling or condoning.
@Kateplusmy8
Thx 2 my local police dept who have been more omnipresent than normal, recently! Don't know if you'll c this but hoping so! @BullyVille
And who started this? Who escalated it? Who could have stopped it?
What a waste of an already overworked, understaffed and underfunded police department. ugh
and forgiving doesnt mean that what the person did or continues to do is acceptable.
Past behavior is not always an indicator of future behavior but it certainly gives you a pretty good idea of what could likely happpen in a repeat event, especially if no intervention has occurred.
We have no idea if Kate has had any kind of intevention ( ie: counseling) other then her supposed Ah Ha moment with mr Tow truck Driver, when she realized she has been for many years, judging people based on what they LOOKED like!
How superficial Ms. Gosselin!
Of course, IMHO...
kateplusmy8
Thx 2 my local police dept who have been more omnipresent than normal, recently! Don't know if you'll c this but hoping so! @BullyVille
Omnipresent? Everywhere at one time? Ubiquitous? What's she saying here...she now needs constant police protection, and she's telling her BV buddy? Why -- for sympathy from the sheeple, to show that she's really under attack from an unseen force?
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 @BullyVille Wow...now what a comfort that is 4U Kate! Glad 2see this. We know U have some local stalkers!
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Get off it, Milo. Nobody cares enough about Kate to stalk her. People here try to avoid her, not follow her around. If there are those who are obsessed with her business, they live in the south and name their dogs after her. One particular one is also called Gladys Kravitz.
Mel said... 63
''I'm astounded that Kate would feel so free to so completely and publicly diss a man who was just trying to help.''
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You know, every time I read something mean that KK says, my first thought is that if she is that bad publicly, just imagine how horrible she is privately!!
Wait so she called the police to come around more often? So if the police are involved why the heck does she need anyone else to help her? Why can't she work with the police about her concerns off twitter??
This is what the police are for. Not twitter!!
Her blog for The Stir was nothing more than an opportunity to subliminally tell people to not judge her from Robert's book. She is really disparate to rewrite history.
Looks like only Radar is the only one out there pursuing the story and Perel is in the thick of it tweeting and giving McGibney a stage to spout his threats.
It would interesting to find out who tipped Radar about Kate wanting to sue Jon to begin with. Looks like she'll get her wish. I gotta say she doesn't give up. No wonder family and friends drift away. Such meanness and vengefulness.
Barb in Nebraska - I'm so sorry to hear of your frightening accident. Wow, that must have been very scary and am very thankful you are not seriously hurt.
As to Kate saying the police have beefed up their patrols around her home - maybe they've added an occasional drive by but I seriously doubt they are throwing all their resources to ensuring a police cruiser is never more than a minute away from her home. At least I hope the police department would use its resources more wisely - as in, fighting real crime.
I think the reference to the police was a lie. They know what she is like and I seriously doubt she called them. This is just to look like her bullied state is real.
Anita said,
"I don't really know but I think this Dianne may be part of Kate's new PR team. She sounds like a profesional woman (looking at her tweets) and she didn't start tweeting Kate & Milo until around March 16th and immediately started offering free copies of Kates new cookbook to Kate's followers. I noticed there was also some private conversations between the three of them."
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It's funny how much info people give away on their profiles, their location, part of their last names, in tweets, etc. I found her, and she's not in PR work or employed by any media firm, etc., but she is a professional woman. Perhaps she's a self-appointed Kate rep. At any rate, she appears to be a sunshine and smiles type tweeter, you know, all "positivity" and giggles for Kate. It's just so strange how fast she popped up. Makes you wonder why.
meinatlanta
@Kateplusmy8 - You know what I am doing, right? "Smiling" Continue to have a **Tweet Day**
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 90
Wait so she called the police to come around more often? So if the police are involved why the heck does she need anyone else to help her? Why can't she work with the police about her concerns off twitter??
This is what the police are for. Not twitter!!
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Unless you're playing the victim, of course and milking it for all it's worth.
You know, here is what irks me about Kate. She professed on her show to be a Christian. She had many people watching her show, and they watched her behavior. What message was she sending? We know her audience reached a younger generation. Did they believe her behavior was appropriate?
I believe that Kate and her branding, is no different then the branding we saw from previous evangelists who frauded their " fans" into handing over their last pennies, in the name of "love" for their Lord. Kate even called her requests for money " Love Offerings".
Those "evangelists" ended up in jail. Not sure what the outcome for Kate will be, but I rest assured that in the final day, she will receive her final judgement that no former marine from bullyville will be able to "out bully"..
The Jon and Kate plus 8, along with the Kate plus 8 branding was one with deceit. They tried to put forth an image of wholesomeness, and christian like lifestyle. I mean why else would they have edited out that Jon smoked? or they drank alcohol at times? They edited it out because they knew those would be controversial topics in the Christian Community. So they were not presenting their real selves to the world.
Kate put herself out there, she continues to put herself out there. She has not come clean and said, " you are right, there were things that we did not reveal about ourselves because we were concerned that we would be adversely judged and it might affect our ratings".
It would also help Kate's cause if she could just say, and not cryptically in bogs or other retweets " I was an impatient mother. I did not always control my kids behaviour in the most appropriate ways. I pinched them to get their attention, I denied water, I left them for naps that were perhaps too long, I may even have thrown a child a bit too hard into their crib,but as you have read, I realized it was scary behavior. I was an exhausted mother raising 8 toddlers, without the support of my family ( by my owndoing,) and some of my kids have very strong wills. I have changed my ways. I have apologized to my kids. we are moving forward in a much more relaxed and patient household. Yes, I will continue to try and find every single avenue to keep me and my kids filming. Get over it, its my life"
I would disagree with her continuing to film, but could have hope in the new laws to protect her children. I would also have hope that by publicly making a statement similar to the one above, that she was changing her ways with her children and they may be able to come out of this ok.
But her continual denying that things occurred that we saw, and blaming it on editing, she has not changed her ways behind closed doors.
And that in my humble opinion is what irks me about Kate.
I apologize for the very long post.
Wait so she called the police to come around more often? So if the police are involved why the heck does she need anyone else to help her? Why can't she work with the police about her concerns off twitter??
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Two words. Sympathy and attention. It's all part of the "bullying" theme right now. She tweeted to BV. She has to put it out there for her tweeties to see, to convince them even more that she needs protection.
The only person who indicated they were going to Kate's house was Milo. A fan.
If Kate REALLY wanted to thank the pd, they have an email; there's also the post office.
Why put her thanks somewhere where she isn't even sure they'll see it?
#humblebrag
I have news for those morons that write those articles, Jon is not going to have money until the youngest kids are 18. What is Jon's belongs to Kate!
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How is Jon going to get money when the kids are 18?
"more omnipresent than normal"
Ah yes. They are constantly present everywhere all the time more than they are normally but even oftener.
Got it. Yep. Clear as mother's milk.
Thanks Kate.
I just don't understand why if police ARE involved she needs Bullyville or anyone else.
This is what I've been saying all along. Police, lawyers and the other mechanisms that grown ups used to handle their problems are freely available to her and should be used. If the police feel that after a thorough investigation her fears are ridiculous, they'll stop coming around and she should drop it. It's up to them and not our call or Bullyville's or anyone else's.
Did you notice the careful wording too? Not that she reported or called the police or that they were there for her. Just that their presence was more visible. They could be around because of normal patrols or other incidents. It's normal to see more police once in awhile because of normal fluctuations.
Why not just say I contacted the police with my concerns and they've amped up protection? What's wrong with that? Okay, good for her. That's what she SHOULD DO.
She called(probably demanded) the police patrol the road. They will do this for a short period of time because I've had this done before.
Goody injected that maybe the cops were called because of phone threats (yeah, like Kate's got a number in the phone book) or because of local " stalker" Berksgrl.
Here's an idea for a lawsuit. Could a case be made that Kate failed to protect her fans from bullying by keeping her twitter public? Since there is an option to go private, and she failed to do that, wasn't she basically condoning the bullying. Not really serious about this, but I think it has as much basis for a lawsuit as this class action suit. For that matter, since it took place on Twitter, and there were many reports made and requests for intervention, shouldn't they also be named in the lawsuit. shouldn't Bill Gates be named, too. And while we are at it, how about suing all of the computer/device manufacturers for providing the means. I mean, seriously, these people take no responsibility for themselves.
I agree with Admin's post about the Internet being the Wild West. At some point, there will need to be some kind of a line drawn governing behavior and what constitutes harassment and/or bullying.
...@MiloandJack: @irishfan47 @Kateplusmy8 LOL...I'm not asking 4 a date! Kate already knows what I look like! :)
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So is milo saying KK is gay? Or has mino finally outed himself as an old fat man??
I don't understand why she tweeted this to Bullyville. Is she saying that thanks to them the police came out? HUH?? Does she understand they could have come out even without Bullyville?
Um, Kate anyone can call the police. Are you helpless? If you are in danger, call them. Period. They will even come out an protect those of us who aren't celebrities! They did when Christopher Dorner was on the loose. Anyone who was in the manifesto including anyone around them including employees was given automatic police protection. It's what they do, protect people who are TRULY in danger.
AuntieAnn said... 103
"more omnipresent than normal"
Ah yes. They are constantly present everywhere all the time more than they are normally but even oftener.
Got it. Yep. Clear as mother's milk.
Thanks Kate.
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I think Kate means although they're everywhere all the time now it's x8!!!!!!!!
She should stick with the one and two syllable words.
Remember back in Feb. the dust up between Kate and the teen hackers? Well I believe the smoking gun exists with RWA' s contact with Mad British Guy. The tweets prove Kate was involved in outing as far back as Feb. and was communicating with Bullyville then.
"Hello all, I am considered as one of these 'Hackers'. We were NOT properly informed what to do and Kate TOLD US WHAT TO DO, we had NO OPTIONS. I have available screenshots from 'Direct Messages' via Twitter from Kate to myself. I do not wish to release them, only if necessary. I would like to publicly apologize for any trouble me and AnonNL have caused during this #Op. We shall now delete our Tweets with the personal information of those involved IF we are excused of our actions, granted a full pardon from those who were harassing us and Tweets taken down from the attackers' side too. If this does not happen, we shall continue stronger than ever. The choice is yours."
You see, Kate is the instigator. McGibney lied to Perel in his ROL interview that he and Kate were not teamed up. I believe RWA has all the tweet screen shots. When the kid hackers got scared and were outed, Kate went with the big gun, Bullyville.
localone said... 96
I think the reference to the police was a lie. They know what she is like and I seriously doubt she called them. This is just to look like her bullied state is real.
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Even if the police "knows what she is like", they would, I am sure, respond to a call. They may not drop everything and run, but they treat all reports seriously. They may roll their eyes and have a good laugh, but they would handle this professionally.
localone said... 96
I think the reference to the police was a lie. They know what she is like and I seriously doubt she called them. This is just to look like her bullied state is real.
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Add to my previous post: although, yes, the whole thing could have been completely made up, or be referencing some past event.
Wait so she called the police to come around more often? So if the police are involved why the heck does she need anyone else to help her? Why can't she work with the police about her concerns off twitter??
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How would she know if the police are coming around more often? Does she let them in the gate to check her property, or does she stand at the end of her long driveway, noting the times they drive past?
I can just hear her calling the police, telling them that bullyville outed a person who lives an hour away who drove past her house at Christmas to see if there were any lights outside. Geez, Kate, get a grip.
irishfan @irishfan47 57m
@Kateplusmy8 Happy Saturday beautiful. Hope ur having a great day! I took ur advice & email u my photo,now u can see how cute I really am:)
I wonder if he's an Irish Setter puppy.
If Bullyville says that they have proof that Jon is involved in the book, they have it. They have done everything that they said they would, and have produced the evidence. They said that, in addition to Jon and Hoffman, there is an attorney involved who will be named.
If this is true, doesn't that mean that Jon is exploiting his children? Is there a different standard for him? Or, is it okay to exploit children if it is for the noble cause of bringing down the mother of his children?
Ah yes. They are constantly present everywhere all the time more than they are normally but even oftener.
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LOL!! Kate doesn't know the meaning of the word. She just threw it out there because it sounded good. Why not just say "the police are around here more than they usually are?"
Nah, Kate had to throw "omnipresent" into the tweet.
Why not just say I contacted the police with my concerns and they've amped up protection? What's wrong with that? Okay, good for her. That's what she SHOULD DO.
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Because that would be clear and intelligible. When she says the police are around, but she won't say they are necessarily around more often for her, isn't that verisimilitude?
Hmmmm....think Kate offered the guy a tip?
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How could she offer him any money when she has all of those bills in her purse that need to be paid?
I believe Bullyville said they were calling berksgirls local police department to report that she has been stalking Kate.
Kate's tweet does not give any reason to believe she has had a direct conversation with her local police. One would think the local police would have contacted kate to get more facts about the stalking, especially when the report is coming from a third party.
My opinion is, kate's tweet and by including bullyville, this is another attempt at intimidation.
As we know from past experience, Kate has had her " powers that be" attempt intimidation tactics to stop people from talking about her. remember the " cease and desist" letter Admin got? They tried, hoped it might scare the heck out of Admin so she would shut the blog down, but when she didnt, they knew they had no legal leg to stand on.
This is the same intimidation tactics.....maybe Bullyville even suggested to kate she tweet something to that effect.
Tomatoes said...Kate had to work a full time job! Kids would have spent their time with loving family or baby sitters! After working 8 hours, plus normal housework Kate would have been to tired to raise her hands against her babies.
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I think what you are not realizing is that stress and exhaustion often contribute to a tired mom totally losing it and not being able to deal with a crying child at the end of the day.
I don't believe that viewers, in any way shape or form are responsible for any of Kate's behavior, either directly or indirectly. As they say, that's one for the books.
She really cannot use English properly, not at all. Omnipresent does not mean more presence, at least not in her context in the police tweet. Big words are not always the right word, and once again she looks like an ass. Stick to simple English Kate, or better yet, stop writing those cringe worthy bogs and tweets, it's like a nail on a blackboard. And I doubt the local police have increased their visibility on your road, unless it's a really slow weekend, or Steve called from his real job on another show.
Doesn't Kate have a 'friend' who is a local cop, the one who drove her a couple of miles down the road for a radio show? Maybe she called him.
If this is true, doesn't that mean that Jon is exploiting his children?
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I think that bridge can be crossed if it comes to that. Why speculate on something that was just rumored but not shown to be true? Right now it seems like BV is throwing whatever out there he can to see what sticks.
Ex Nurse said... 116
''If Bullyville says that they have proof that Jon is involved in the book, they have it. They have done everything that they said they would, and have produced the evidence. They said that, in addition to Jon and Hoffman, there is an attorney involved who will be named.
If this is true, doesn't that mean that Jon is exploiting his children? Is there a different standard for him? Or, is it okay to exploit children if it is for the noble cause of bringing down the mother of his children?''
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Please give a link that verifies Bv ''have produced the evidence.'' I understand that you really do not like Jon. However, just because Bv SAYS they have proof doesn't mean he actually does.
I know Kate said the haterz motivated her, but did she not also say somewhere, on DWTS perhaps, thhhhe haterz were why she had high ratings?
or something to that effect?
If the haterz all leave her alone, she will be a nobody!
uh, Kate...did you think this through?
Yesterday Kate tweeted about her plans for the day:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 18h
@MiloandJack School sports .. And work tomorrow :( but anything beyond 5:45am is a sleep in so= yes! :)
Let's see. What work is she doing today? She's been tweeting. What school sports? Obviously SHE didn't go to lacrosse today, or she tweeted during lacrosse.
Ex Nurse said... 116
''If Bullyville says that they have proof that Jon is involved in the book, they have it. They have done everything that they said they would, and have produced the evidence. They said that, in addition to Jon and Hoffman, there is an attorney involved who will be named.
If this is true, doesn't that mean that Jon is exploiting his children? Is there a different standard for him? Or, is it okay to exploit children if it is for the noble cause of bringing down the mother of his children?''
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Please give a link that verifies Bv ''have produced the evidence.'' I understand that you really do not like Jon. However, just because Bv SAYS they have proof doesn't mean he actually does.
Ex Nurse- if that evidence surfaces, then it will show what it shows. I will choose to bear in mind that Jon was not acting at his most mature during that time and he made a poor choice, one of several he made during the separation and divorce. Just like with Bullyville, I do not believe in tit for tat. I understand Jon was likely feeling powerless, angry and hurt and he acted out of those feelings IF he released those documents to Robert. That's not an excuse but an explanation. Jon's actions during that time are something he will live with the rest of his life and he will be held accountable to them by his children one day.
But people do change and Jon appears to be doing his best to keep his children's lives private and to not cut down their mom every chance he gets. So I will give him a second chance just as I would Kate if she showed signs of trying to change.
Again, if Kate had any real evidence, her lawyers would have already had this case in court with Jon and Robert as defendants. If Bullyville has actual evidence, he should turn it over to Kate's lawyers. Has he posted this evidence yet? Robert at least has agreed to make all of his files he used to write his book available for review. Maybe, as a website owner, Bullyville man should avail himself of said offer and review the evidence against Kate.
If Bullyville says that they have proof that Jon is involved in the book, they have it. They have done everything that they said they would, and have produced the evidence.
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Actually, BV said that my lawyers had contacted them to stop the video, which was a flat out lie. I didn't even know they had the video let alone bothered to stick a lawyer on them. No one else has come forward claiming they sent a lawyer on my behalf. So if THAT was a lie, doesn't that call into question everything else they say? That's what you're saying about Robert IF he lied about Jon, I thought.
Pony up the information. Stop teasing. This whole thing is getting so old.
Without the "haters," Kate's TL has becoming BORING. Only comments about the weather, requests for RT's, sucking up to Kate, a couple of guys(?)attempting to flirt with her, and one person hinting at suicide and expecting help from Kreider. Oh yes, and plenty of RT's from Kate about how wonderful she is.
I always get confused from those who hate Jon. Is he supposed to speak up and help the kids or is he supposed to say silent? If CPS and family law court shut him down wouldn't turning it over to someone who was willing to make it public be his next option? It just doesn't necessarily mean what it seems to be meaning to some. Really it's a separate issue.
This is all assuming he had anything to do with it, which no one has yet to produce a single shred of evidence to support other than mere conjecture. Until then I'm not sure what else to say about it.
Well said Sillimom.
I guess I'm of the feeling that if we can't accept it when people change I'm not sure what the point is in hoping people will change in the first place. Isn't that what we have been doing here for four years, snarking on bad behavior and wishing it would change?
LOL yeah really, wouldn't Kate be running to family law court petitioning to terminate his parental rights if she had ANY proof he was involved? Gimme a break. BV and Kate are all smoke and mirrors. They tease, tease tease and never produce anything. Oh yeah I think they produced some addresses of "haters" as well as some innocent bystanders who just happened to live in the same building. Welcome to the Gosselin world, this has been going on for ages. Call me when something interesting happens. :)
Melissa 102 - I think that poster was referring to the fact that child support will stop when the kids are 18. But Kate's lawyer stated he no longer has to pay support so his money shouldn't be going to her.
Here's the reality - Jon will always be supporting his kids. Our twenty something son just got hit with a couple thousand dollars worth of dental work. He doesn't have that kind of money so of course we will help him. We're not required by law to do so but we do it because he is our son and that doesn't stop until either we do or he does. And I pray that won't be for a long, long time.
One last thing then I'll stop lol. Isn't that a pretty big piece of information IF Jon was involved? And how do they prove such a thing? So why would whoever has this information turn it over to BULLYVILLE? Why wouldn't they just release it themselves and take credit for it?
I just can't imagine any sheeple or hater blog wouldn't want to release this information themselves. If it's true, there shouldn't be any legal concerns. Why hasn't it been posted in six long months? No one ever hesitated to post such important information before, going back as far as when Gosselinswithoutpity posted the mansion information.
It really goes back to getting some web site just in it for publicity to do the dirty work and I can't respect that. If you have something to say, say it. Don't rely on someone else to do it for you. Same with Kate retweeting their tweet about the book being a lie. She had six months to say it was a lie and never did. Now she hides behind a retweet? I guess she thinks retweets won't hold up in court? It's cowardly and pathetic. When decent people with self respect want to say something they just say it, they don't try to get someone else to do it. What Kate is doing is USING THEM and it's really pathetic. She side steps and hides behind people every chance she gets, this has been her M.O. for years. Deep down there is nothing to admire in there.
I think they should stick to productive things like calling public attention to real incidents of bullying in school like the recent special needs teen in Washington state.
I think one of the people feeding info about the book/Robert/Jon to BV is Al W. From what I understand (have read) Robert was supposed to collaborate on a book with Al and Robert pulled his info. We've seen the sour grapes attitude from Al ever since the book was first released. Just my opinion but I think Al is a major pipeline.
Smoke and Mirrors....
Typical narcisstic behavior....
Looky over there, so you dont see what I am doing over here....
Remember, when you point fingers at someone else, you have 3 fingers pointing back at you!
People in glass houses shouldnt throw stones...
I dont think there is anyone who is innocent. Kate has bullied. The Haters have bullied, the fans have bullied.
Perhaps Jon has helped Robert with the book, re-edited version, not the first version. So what? Perhaps the re-edited version is a collaboration. So what? Plenty of people have had books written about them that are very unflattering.
Instead of attacking everyone, why didn't she write her autobiography challenging Robert's book instead of a cookbook? Isn't that a way to set the record straight? Makes me think everything Robert has is the real deal. I do not care if Jon and Robert collaborated in any way on the book.
What grand conspiracy Kate is claiming here? Jon and Robert faked those journals? Jon hacked or stole her CD's? Where is the proof? Why didn't she sue them months ago when Robert released his book? All her attorneys could manage legally was to temporary get Robert's book off Amazon.
NJ, I agree. Bullyville called Jon Robert a POS with a link to Al's article slamming Robert. Yep, Al is in it.
Is the Ex Nurse who is posting now, the same one who used to post a while ago, but stopped for a lengthy interval? Somehow, her posts just don't seem the same as they once were?
What is pathetic is that all these people, BV, AW, and the moronic uber-sheeple like Milo,, have so blessedly little to do in what should be their real lives (seriously, what DID they do a few short years ago?) that this Gosselin world consumes them. Literally consumes them. And here's their queen, a marginally bright bulb, with major issues, delusionally marching around as if a brief dip in reality tv made her anything more than yesterday's news. It is truly cringe-worthy.
And for someone who had to 'work' today (WTF is that about?), that twitter keeps on going. And Milo thinks poor Kate so needs a spa day. Kate has M-F, 9 hours a day, to do mostly nothing. Poor Kate.
Meagler said... 120
I believe Bullyville said they were calling berksgirls local police department to report that she has been stalking Kate.
Kate's tweet does not give any reason to believe she has had a direct conversation with her local police. One would think the local police would have contacted kate to get more facts about the stalking, especially when the report is coming from a third party.
My opinion is, kate's tweet and by including bullyville, this is another attempt at intimidation.
As we know from past experience, Kate has had her " powers that be" attempt intimidation tactics to stop people from talking about her. remember the " cease and desist" letter Admin got? They tried, hoped it might scare the heck out of Admin so she would shut the blog down, but when she didnt, they knew they had no legal leg to stand on.
This is the same intimidation tactics.....maybe Bullyville even suggested to kate she tweet something to that effect.
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IMO, Kate is scared for her life.
She's putting out there in cyberspace that she's
being protected by the police.
Ex Nurse said... 116
''If Bullyville says that they have proof that Jon is involved in the book, they have it. They have done everything that they said they would, and have produced the evidence.
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Not really. They said they would ID all haters. There are several who have not been ID'd and as marked as "in progress" for almost a week.
They said all haters would be included in the lawsuit, now it's only one hater.
They said the lawsuit has been filed then as late as last night they said they'd like to "see" the ACLU take the case and they had sent all info they'd collected to ACLU.
They gave one hater 24 hours to apologize or she'd be outed. No apology, no outing.
I think some of what they say is bluff and bravado.
A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 143
''IMO, Kate is scared for her life.
She's putting out there in cyberspace that she's
being protected by the police.''
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In my opinion, KK should be scared about Milo and her other rabid fans. Not only for KK's own safety, but what her fans might do to those on Bv/KK's list of ''class action defendants''
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 1h
@irishfan47 I'm working.... Well, I'm tweeting NOW but back to work I go.....
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Working? Kates grifts, Kate doesn't work. Perhaps she's editing her krookbook?
TLC stinks said...What grand conspiracy Kate is claiming here? Jon and Robert faked those journals? Jon hacked or stole her CD's? Where is the proof? Why didn't she sue them months ago when Robert released his book? All her attorneys could manage legally was to temporary get Robert's book off Amazon.
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According to this ROL article, Kate would like to sue and send Jon to jail but she can't find anyone to take her case. It's odd because this article says just about the opposite of what David Perle is saying in his ROL articles. This one was written yesterday:
Kate Gosselin Strikes Back! Dragging Jon To Court, She Wants Him Jailed Over Tell-All Book
Posted on Mar 5, 2013 @ 3:19AM | By Amber Goodhand, News Editor
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/03/kate-gosselin-strikes-back-dragging-jon-to-court-she-wants-him-jailed-over-tell-all-book/
Kate is desperate to find witnesses who will take the stand and testify against Jon,” the insider reveals.
“But so far she’s having no luck. Anyone Kate has approached is hesitant because they don’t really want to be attached to the Gosselin name and in turn be dragged through the mud themselves.”
The source claims Jon is well aware of what Kate is trying to do and knows she’s going after anyone who knew him during the time they were splitting — and anyone who he might have confessed his many grievances to.
“As far as Jon is concerned, he knows Kate will make promises to potential witnesses, saying what they want to hear just so she can get them up on the stand and get what she wants. No one knows firsthand more about how manipulative she can be than Jon,” the source tells Radar.
“But Kate is having a really hard time finding a law firm that will actually take on her case, because right now she doesn’t have enough evidence.
“And it’s not like Kate just wants to sue Jon to make sure the book never goes public again, she wants to see Jon in jail! She’ll even use the kid card to try to get witnesses.”
RadarOnline.com has learned Kate’s case remains in the foundation phase while she attempts to reign in witnesses.
“Kate doesn’t want the public learning things about her that she’s so desperately tried to hide!” the source says. “Jon wouldn’t be surprised if she tried to subpoena or depose certain witnesses that she thinks are crucial to her case, but have refused to testify on her behalf.”
Has it occurred to anyone that Jon was unaware of the stuff Kate wrote in her journals and wasn't there as a witness because he was WORKING? At the very least, if he was aware of the journals, couldn't he use them to fight her for custody? Any parent would have taken those journals and gone to court, don't you think?
Interesting. Kate tweets that she paid for the coffee for the person behind her and now all her little cult fans are saying they do the same thing. LOL
Interesting. Kate tweets that she paid for the coffee for the person behind her and now all her little cult fans are saying they do the same thing. LOL
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Lots of people do things like this but don't have a need to announce it. I'm surprised she didn't give them a signed book too!
Doesn't she get validation, love and support from anywhere else but twitter?
Admin, you are spot on. If there is such an interest in stopping the bullying, then they need to forget about Kate, and help true victims. This is another ploy for attention with this greedy grifter and it appears to be working for her. As I stated, the woman is an adult and could, at any time, remove herself from the tweets, blogs, or whatever is offending her. I have read about real, talented, celebrities who have been panned by the critics. They keep going and study or practice to improve. Most ignore bad press, don't they? All I am seeing is a d-list, wealthy celebrity starved for attention. Would anyone else just like to say, "Get over yourself?" Best wishes to all.
TLC stinks I THINK we discussed this briefly when they first came out. We do know he was aware she WROTE a journal because he mentioned she journals, once on the show. But that doesn't mean he ever read them.
First of all, I can't imagine most men care what us women put in our journals. It's not typically a guy thing. I can picture most husbands saying that's great honey glad it makes you happy! They'd never think to read it. I know lots of blogging women occasionally talk about how it's a rare treat their husband actually bothered to sit down for a second and read their post and normally it really is a "that's great babe carry on" mentality.
Then we have a father who worked full time and then was expected to care for the eight children when he was home full time. And on top of all THAT, be working on a television show full time. I find it frankly fantastical to believe he ever bothered to sloth through everything she wrote down much less even a few of them.
I've never followed Gweneth Paltrow but thanks to someone posting the Washington Post article I discovered how big of a presence on the internet cannot stand this kale juice drinking hipster. (And hey I like kale green smoothies, you can't even taste it! :) )
As far as I can tell she just ignores it. I don't see any evidence she acknowledges it or even cares. She's confident in her lifestyle and owns it. Besides she seems to have a lot of people who "love to hate her" and those people's money is just as good as a fans. They'll buy her cookbooks too so what does she care. This is how a mature adult handles criticism.
Admin said:
"As far as I can tell she just ignores it."
That's because she has class, something Kate doesn't have an ounce of.
This is for Kate...read here much. It was asked, if you are so worried about "threats" or stalkers, why don't you call the police. All of a sudden there is mention of more police presence. Yeah, that was transparent.
My thoughts of Jon and Robert..maybe Robert contacted Jon when he found the computer stuff in the trash. Saying hey I found this stuff and Jon said just keep it and and do whatever you want. I know it is all what if. Maybe Jon did know just what all the computer stuff contained and figured all of it would come out for the kids sake.
Admin said:
"I find it frankly fantastical to believe he ever bothered to sloth through everything she wrote down much less even a few of them."
Jon could have ruined her (she did that all by herself) many times but he chose to take the high road. I seriously doubt he's behind this. I really believe Robert is trying to help the kids. Why else would he donate all of his proceeds? For notoriety? I really don't think so. I just think he is good people feeling badly for the things he has discovered and witnessed.
That's because she has class, something Kate doesn't have an ounce of.
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Yes she has class, but I think she also has confidence in who she is and what her choices are. When you are confident in yourself you don't care as much what others think. If you like your kale smoothie and someone else thinks it's gross, who cares as long as you enjoy it? Just laugh it off.
At the end of the day I have said for years that deep down Kate has massive insecurity problems. If she were so comfortable in her own skin she wouldn't spend nearly as much time obsessing over what is said about her.
Lots of people do a lot more than buy a stranger a cup of coffee. To thank servicemen and women for their service, people ALL the time pay for their meals ANONYMOUSLY. They don't tweet about it.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 148
Interesting. Kate tweets that she paid for the coffee for the person behind her and now all her little cult fans are saying they do the same thing. LOL
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Lots of people do things like this but don't have a need to announce it. I'm surprised she didn't give them a signed book too!
Doesn't she get validation, love and support from anywhere else but twitter?
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I agree. But this is Kate we're talking about-
so baby steps... baby steps.
I can't help it, but IMO Kate never does anything w/o her benefit somehow being involved. I would not doubt that she will try to grift SB gift certificates or free coffee coupons for making her fanatics pay it backwards.
Most people in Starbucks are probably not on their last leg either if they're spending almost 5 bucks on a latte. I have a feeling a lot of people would have said oh no really don't do that for me help someone really in need instead.
Maybe try such a thing at the discount grocery store like Aldis?
I know, yes, baby steps.
Thanks Siilimom for clarifying my comment! I thought it was self explanatory but oh well. Jon gives his child support to Kate , after youngest are 18 he can help kids directly. I don't know what their child support is but bet your booties that if Jon all of a sudden gets money Kate will run to court to get her hands on it!
As far as Kate having the opportunity to beat her kids because of show, I guess I remember how crazy busy I use to be. I would work all day, come home and do housework, make dinner, wash dishes,take the kids a bath and I had less kids than Kate, by the time I put them to bed I was so tired I didn't have to be so angry! I didn't even have time to blow my nose! LOL. I dont have to tell anyone here how much work it is to raise kids and work!!
BTW, IF YOU WERE A STAY HOME MOM DOES NOT MAKE YOU CRAZY ABUSIVE! BUT KATE WAS(IS)ABUSIVE THE SHOW JUST GAVE TIME TO DO MAJOR DAMAGE!! She was with her kids24/7.
I'm going out again, if anyone wants me to clarify anything, I'll be home later tonight.
Admin, ITA. I had hard enough time reading her journal excerpts myself.
Basketball on soon! I am rooting for Louisville all the way, only partly because of Kevin Ware.
Cape Cod mama, I am gonna root for Michigan second game against syracuse. Michigan beat my beloved Virginia commonwealth Rams. It would make us feel better about the loss if Michigan goes all the way. Kinda like if they had to be beaten, glad it was the eventual champion team.
Anyone here following the Rutgers mess? Want to talk about bullying, was what coach rice did bullying? Was it fair for the Athletic Director to lose his job and not the university president?
Nice if you buy a stranger a cup of coffee, but with KG I hardly think it's a baby step to anything, especially when it become a tweet. The BV damage is deep, a cup of java is not making that go away.
Arizona BBB complaint filed, Dec. 2012
I am currently being bullied by Bullyville.com who has also hired people to bully me via their blogs. For someone who claims to represent not being bullied, I find it funny that he is funding active bullying against me, supporting hacking of every website I own and targeting me for no good reason other than they think I am involved with a website that I do not own. Their claims are bogus and their "first amendment" lawyer Marc Randazza(of whom I have also filed a BBB complaint against) has an unjustifiable vendetta against me as well. Bullyville openly displays ads of kids who were bullied to death, but I find it very odd that they are trying to drive business away from my webdesign and app developing business. Just because I chose to design a website, or took a job creating logos, does not mean I own or run a site I was hired to make these things for. It is a freelance position and I design things for many different people and I believe I have been targeted by his team because of the simple fact that I have taken a job from someone's whose website has content that they do not agree with. And as a result of this I have been bullied by Adam Steignbaugh, Marc Randazza, Bullyville, TechDirt, Kenneth White,Jack Marshall and a Personal Army hacking group that I have the transcripts of when they were chatting about trying to take down my sites along with the person who hired me to do their logos and webdesign's site as well. They've claimed to have found proof of me owning the site but a twitter post does not count as far as I understand. However, there was a fake twitter account that has been deleted because of it's in-authenticity and this is the proof they claim as me being the site owner. Never have I ever admitted to owning such a site and their claims are by far, BOGUS. Because of this, I have lost a job I held for the famous band Chimaira, whom hired me to redesign their site and create logos and an app for. http://www.bullyville.com/?page=articles&id=574
Admin said:
"Yes she has class, but I think she also has confidence in who she is and what her choices are. When you are confident in yourself you don't care as much what others think."
This is so true. I've especially learned this with age. Who gives a shit what other people think? I'm sure Gwyneth is laughing all the way to the bank. Kate, on the otherhand, is not and she's younger than Gwyneth. Kate will never learn.
Kateplusmy8
RT @Notebook:
You can't change what's happened in your past, so learn to live with it, before you let it destroy your future.
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Since she posted this platitude, I guess it would apply to Jon as well.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 152
I've never followed Gweneth Paltrow but thanks to someone posting the Washington Post article I discovered how big of a presence on the internet cannot stand this kale juice drinking hipster. (And hey I like kale green smoothies, you can't even taste it! :) )
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Paltrow is an enigma to me. She's part Madonna British, part hipster, part singer, part actress, part foodie.
I've never been a big fan of her work on screen because I find her one-note and flat, but I don't go out of my way to avoid her movies etc. I thought her pairing up with Mario Batali for an Italy food series was quite strange. Like the woman would eat pork products!
I love Kathy Griffin's comedic stand up on Gwenny. Kathy draws from her experience as a reporter (for E!?) on the red carpet and reenacts Gwenneth pretending that she doesn't see Kathy and totally NOT getting her humor. Apparently, her gal pal Stella McCartney did and she rocked. Gwenny has to get in step with British humor!
msgoody2shoes21
@FireyTopaz1 @Allisstair @Kateplusmy8 All my retweets aren't endorsements & as far as Jon goes, his past is his present. A Liar & schemer.
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How easy it is to substitute Kate's name for Jon's in that 'sediment'. Jon does have one leg up on her though. He has a job.
They said the lawsuit has been filed then as late as last night they said they'd like to "see" the ACLU take the case and they had sent all info they'd collected to ACLU.
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Again, this is just so funny to me. It shows that McBullSh*t has probably been told by the law firm that represented him in his own suit that they aren't interested in representing this rag-tag bunch of twitter whiners. So now he's supposedly marketing this suit around to different attorneys, including the ACLU. Ha! We know the ACLU won't take on this frivolous suit.
This lawsuit is not going to be attractive to any smart attorneys. First of all, you've got (at last count) 72 plaintiffs who want to all be part of a class action suit. The basis for this suit is that allegedly someone or someones on Twitter may have made a vaguely threatening remark to Kate Krieder. Perhaps another someone told one of the Twitter plaintiffs to go jump off a bridge. Defendants and plaintiffs spread out all over the country. Think of the time and expense of merely serving all these defendants.
Now think of waiting to get their answer (typically 30 days after they were served). Then if they don't answer, you've got to take their default. Then for those who do answer, you have to serve discovery - try to get evidence to back your claims that your clients have suffered injuries/damages. What are they claiming, emotional distress? Defamation of character? It's gonna be like herding cats to deal with these people.
Imagine the many phone calls to the attorney's office from all of these people, wondering how the case is going. Imagine the e-mails, detailing every imagined wrong they feel comes their way from the haterz.
Say the attorney actually takes the default of some, then gets some sort of judgment. Unless that defendant has any assets, good luck enforcing the judgment -- way across the other side of the country like as not. Then hear your clients gnashing of teeth as you tell them they owe you $________ for court costs, and if the attorney can collect a penny of that judgment, then he'll send them their cut.
This case is calling out MASSIVE HEADACHE and NOT WORTH IT. McGibney is full of McBullSh*t. So of course that's why he gravitated toward Kate - they have so much in common.
gabby2 said... 107
...@MiloandJack: @irishfan47 @Kateplusmy8 LOL...I'm not asking 4 a date! Kate already knows what I look like! :)
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So is milo saying KK is gay? Or has mino finally outed himself as an old fat man??
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I thought this tweet of Milo's was a bit suggestive. "What does it mean?" I don't know, and I don't think I want to find out.... lol.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 5 Apr
@Kateplusmy8 Yes Kate...when my #RearEnd goes snap/crackle/pop and then it starts to shake/rattle/and roll....what does it mean? :)
Having to tweet about her good deed is just another example of her Hypocrisy.
Do they understand one of the ACLU's biggest issues is internet free speech? Why would they take up for STOPPING people from free speech on the internet?
Here is there statement: "The ACLU's vision of an uncensored Internet was clearly shared by the U.S. Supreme Court when it declared, in Reno v. ACLU, the Internet to be a free speech zone, deserving at least as much First Amendment protection as that afforded to books, newspapers and magazines. The government, the court said, can no more restrict a person's access to words or images on the Internet than it could be allowed to snatch a book out of a reader's hands in the library, or cover over a statue of a nude in a museum."
Here are some cases the ACLU has worked on or is working on:
Stopping school internet filters from blocking sites that relate to gay and lesbian issues.
Supporting opposition to a bill that would "clean up" the internet for children by banning anything "obscene" that minors might see.
Supporting opposition to internet ISP monopolies.
Supporting your right to privacy on the internet and speaking out against Facebook's weak privacy controls.
Fighting and striking down state led internet "decency" laws.
It's kind of insulting to try to lump this stupid twitter war in that group and shows a complete lack of understanding for what the ACLU supports--free expression online, not censorship.
AuntieAnn said...
"more omnipresent than normal"
Ah yes. They are constantly present everywhere all the time more than they are normally but even oftener.
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"Mr. McGibbletynibblets"
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AuntieAnn, you always make me laugh out loud!
Thanks Admin for bringing up the ACLU....obviously "bully" does not know what they stand for...LOL.
I was going to write something on it....but....rolls eyes....
And if he is ex-milliary....what does he think are our rights? Freedom of speech ring a bell for him??
I guess this poor soul thinks you can only do good deeds at Starbucks:
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@Kateplusmy8 YOUR SO AWESOME KATE :) I WILL DO THAT NEXT TIME I'M AT A SB.
Just because Kate says she paid for someones order at Starbucks doesn't mean she really did. When was the last time she tweeted the truth about anything. Unless I see it with my own eyes I am not going to believe anything she says.
Maybe it's just me, but I'm of the opinion that if you boast about doing a good deed or look for a pat on the back, it kind of negates the gesture. shrug
I am sure that I am not the only one here with a serious "girl crush" for AuntieAnn!
I am so glad you are back and commenting.
She's back in Twitter manic mode spouting rainbows and happy faces. Just a very few of the tweets:
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RT @iAmTheWiseOne: It is in adversity that you grow stronger and wiser, each problem you resolve makes you a far better person than before.
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RT @Notebook: I'm sad, hurt, angry, mad, disappointed. But you know what? I'll put on a happy face and move on. It will hurt but I will survive.
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RT @BullyVille: FYI, someone is impersonating an account with my pic saying it's me.....not me. Only account I tweet from is @bullyville.
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@Kateplusmy8, paid it forward! Took care of an older couples grocery bill in front of me, feels amazing to help when it's least expected!
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@mommiemarvelous oh I'm SO happy! Bet it made YOU even happier than it made them :) I LOVE this!
Here's MY take:
Kate threw Jon out of the garage apartment and tossed all "his" stuff (or had an underling toss it) to the curb. She didn't want his "stuff."
Little did she know that in that stuff were backup disks of her journals that he copied FOR HER. If he wanted them he would have taken them himself but he left them for HER. Since he had touched them, she had them tossed. She had no idea what was on those disks but assumed they were his (if they were his, he would have taken them with him).
Robert didn't say he had hard drives. He said disks were in the trash.
Robert documented the trash, took pictures of the disks in the trash. Kate is the one that tossed the trash, not JON.
I'm sure Jon told her about the disks and all she heard was "bla bla bla" and wanted him OUT and GONE. She's an idiot and this is her fault, not Jon's.
For the record, I also feel "guilty" for enjoying the show in the early days.
I also hate that when I've told certain people about her beating the babies they've said, "Well, with all those kids, I'd lose my temper too!"
IF you have that type of temper ... DON'T HAVE KIDS (especially multiples.) As much as I'm not a fan of Michelle Duggar, I don't think she beat the crap out of babies for not pooping on her time table.
Because of Kate and her exploitation of her kids, I won't watch any reality show with kids. It just makes me feel icky.
Do they understand one of the ACLU's biggest issues is internet free speech? Why would they take up for STOPPING people from free speech on the internet?
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They will take the stance that the fans on Twitter have their Freedom of Speech violated because they can't tweet without being harassed.
I was thinking about what someone upthread posted about Kate's reason for getting behind this Bullying Niblets fellow. Kate doesn't give a rat's rear end about her fans and if their feelings were hurt or they felt like they were being bullied. She's using them. Robert is the target here. Her attorneys no doubt told her she didn't have a case against him, but if a class action were filed, he could be named in a harassment suit along with others. Plus, she wouldn't have any out of pocket expenses. It's a win-win for her. No cash out and revenge.
Regarding the lawsuit. If this goes forward do they realize that the defendants can file a counter suit? Even if no attorney will touch this suit, the non-fans just might be miffed enough to file a suit against the fans on an individual basis, in which case the fans will be up to their noses in attorney's fees. I imagine the non-fans have enough screen shots and proof of harassment to take them to court. The sheeple aren't innocent little bystanders in this. I wonder if anyone has advised them as to exactly what might take place. Can they carefully weigh their options in this and consider what might happen? Someone needs to play devil's advocate in this. They obviously can't sit down and carefully examine the "what ifs" all by themselves, can they? I mean, these are sheeple who need instructions on how to freeze cookies.
This just goes to show you that Robert was right about Kate's Christianity and how she was never the Christian but had actually taken on Beth's personawheel IS a Christian)...if Kate was, she would know in Good Deeds 101 in the Bible, it says "do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing" which HEY KATE means DO Not broadcast your good deeds on twitter because the accolades of people are all you will receive. A Christian does it in secret to get their reward from God. Kate is all about esteeming and affirming herself like a drug addict...she needs a constant fix of someone telliyounger how wonderful she is and if she can't find it, SHE will tell you how wonderful she is.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 5 Apr
@Kateplusmy8 Yes Kate...when my #RearEnd goes snap/crackle/pop and then it starts to shake/rattle/and roll....what does it mean? :)
I thought that she was talking about the back end of her car, but with Milo, who knows?
From T.
- Yesterday I ( & a few others) were concerned that A. W. was involved, and not even 24hrs goes by and the prophecy is fulfilled.
- The purpose of her tweet about the police was to imply that bullyville has the power & evidence to get them involved, while also implying that she is innocent if the allegations are proved to be wrong.
- I doubt that the police are actually involved, because they certainly would have counseled her not to reveal her schedule or locations via Twitter. How concerned about safety can she be when she continues to share her and her children's whereabouts, as well as revealing that her dog is known to wander off the property?
- Regardless of the gains being sought, it seems that all parties are using fear as the driving motivation. And though Robert Hoffman also utilizes this technique to keep Kate in check, he's also the only one not giving into it. Bravo to him for his courage.
- Lastly, it certainly cannot be disputed that there is a connection between Robert and Jon, if only to acknowledge that Robert had more access to the family than most in the media. However, since the level, context, and intention of that connection remains murky, bullyville is able to cast it's shadow as an excellent distraction technique to keep everyone following their scripted agenda. Of course nothing truly important has been revealed yet. Why would they, when they have been able to keep the masses clicking away here, there, and anywhere else they want us to for more than 5 days now? What better way to keep the hit related dough rolling in then to eke out the information we crave in a slow trickle, drip by drip...?
Uggg...Persona....Beth IS a christian
I hate autocorrect! She needs someone telling her how wonderful...
Is McGibney's website (or whatever his name is) hoffmanbook.com? I went there and it was nothing. I will admit, I am not scared to visit his site. I am used to being 'tracked' online- no biggie for me.
I am very disappointed in the so-called haters apologizing to Kate. I am dissapointed with this site's apology as well. I am not sorry about the video- I thought it was funny and clever and witty and I still do. If those haters on Twitter are just gonna be sorry, them why behave that way to begin with? They are only sorry that they are caught.
Kids having tantrums can be ignored- it was common for that parenting style when my DD was little and I used it. OF COURSE you dont let your child have the tantrum in a place where they can hurt themselves- hello! It's common sense. My DD would be put into her carseat if we were out and promptly taken home, or if at home, she could have the tantrum on her bed. And OF COURSE if the child is hungry or hurt and that is why they are acting out you tend to them. Jeez, is parenting that difficult? I guess it doesnt come naturally to all mothers. Shame.
I really like Gwynneth Paltrow- she is awesome opposite Robert Downey Jr. :)
Must be Saturday Night Lonelyhearts Club time at the Gosselin Mansion, judging from the non-stop tweeting. Since she's not tweeting about movie night, or pizza time, bets are on she's home alone. I have never known anyone her age, married, single, or divorced, who spends so much time alone - no friends, no family, no plans, no meaningful social relationships. If she were not such a twat, I would almost feel sorry for her. But she is, and I can't.
WjWow said... 180
My thoughts exactly. She doesn't have a leg to stand on and knows it. This is why she's tweeting furiously to come across as the victim who everyone bullys and lies about.
MJ said... 177
Maybe it's just me, but I'm of the opinion that if you boast about doing a good deed or look for a pat on the back, it kind of negates the gesture. shrug
It's not just you. This is the only reason Kate would do it though, so she can tweet it and make people think she's great. As I've said many times before...she's so effing transparent.
I guess Kate will have a police escort when she goes out for a jog...
That will be a sight for sore eyes.
Remona said...
Please give a link that verifies Bv ''have produced the evidence.'' I understand that you really do not like Jon. However, just because Bv SAYS they have proof doesn't mean he actually does.
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I said "if" several times. I meant that if he says has proof, based on what has transpired, he probably has it. This blog speculates all of the time.
Some people here have said that they don't care if it turns out that Jon actively participated in getting and/or giving the info to Hoffman. According to Bullyville, Jon will also share in the profits. I am simply wondering if money would change anyone's mind about Jon. Answer it if you like, or just scroll on by if you don't want to hear what I have to say. Time will tell as to who got it right about Jon.
Remona---
I just read your response to my post again. I was saying that they said that they had traced the haters and would post the proof--and they did. Therefore, based on that, IMO, I believe that they have, and will post the evidence on Jon, an attorney and Hoffman. They have a track record of doing what they say they are going to do.
Wowser said... 183
This just goes to show you that Robert was right about Kate's Christianity and how she was never the Christian but had actually taken on Beth's personawheel IS a Christian)...if Kate was, she would know in Good Deeds 101 in the Bible, it says "do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing" which HEY KATE means DO Not broadcast your good deeds on twitter because the accolades of people are all you will receive. A Christian does it in secret to get their reward from God. Kate is all about esteeming and affirming herself like a drug addict...she needs a constant fix of someone telliyounger how wonderful she is and if she can't find it, SHE will tell you how wonderful she is.
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Vanity is Satan's favorite sin...
WjWow...180 I totally agree with what you said.
JoyinVirginia...Syracuse/Michigan should be a good game. I've not been a fan of Rick Pitino's since he was coach of the Boston Celtics. My impression of him is that he's a skeevy, little worm. Watched the game last week when Kevin Ware broke his leg. That was unbelievable. Glad CBS opted not to continue showing the replay. Is Coach Shoka still with VCU? I had ESPN on awhile back while I was doing something and I wasn't paying close attention but I thought I heard that he went to another school.
I think Kate mention in her last bog and has said before her phone is her lifeline. (What did we all do before we had a lifeline when we got up in the morning?)
For her it IS her lifeline. Twitter is her lifeline. She said she was "having fun" today with her almost teens. Yet she was tweeting. Practically in every pap picture taken of her she had that damn phone in her hand even when she had boxes and bags and a huge purse to carry...the phone was in her HAND. It's her source for love and acceptance.
If she is having more police around I think if I lived near her and was paying for them I sure wouldn't like it since it seems most police are short handed and I think they could be doing better things than watching her since she puts out for all to see what they are up to.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 1h
@Kateplusmy8 So how was the sports events today? surely U had much better weather than last time freezing temps? Another #GoCara day?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 8h
@Kateplusmy8 HaHa...I bet that cup really tastes good...paid 4by Kate! #SweetGesture What R U driving 2day? :)
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack 23m
@Kateplusmy8 So what are U and ur #AlmostTeens up to this evening? Sharing a movie?
Why not take a road trip up north and look through her windows? Of course there's a chance you might be apprehended by the omnipresent police force, but it's a risk you have to take for the sake of love.
I don't normally follow the twitter people, they are imho ALL a bit obsessed. Who would check and write about KG every day? And some of them tweet more than once a day. Those people, be they sheeple or haters have something missing in their life if they make time for the bickering back and forth with people who disagree with them.
That said, it's been downright funny to read some of the comments. The sheeple sound like whiny kids on the playground who are trying to convince the yard duty to punish the kid who threw sand at them. They fail to mention they also threw sand. It's embarrassing that adults are treating this BV guy like he's the divine answer to their prayers.
Not that there aren't vile haters, as well. I feel especially sorry for the sheeple who posted a portion of what she claims are thousands of messages full of anger and bizarre rants from a hater. I think that one should be supported, I like pie ;) she stayed quiet about this for a long time.
But overall, the sheeple are making fools out of themselves with BV.
I highly approve of the apology Admin issued on this site. She took the high road (pun intended) and took what could have been a volitile situation and defused it with grace.
It's fun to find a coomon spot where we can all agree on many issues. But to take this to twitter and play blog games is lame.
Some people here have said that they don't care if it turns out that Jon actively participated in getting and/or giving the info to Hoffman. According to Bullyville, Jon will also share in the profits. I am simply wondering if money would change anyone's mind about Jon. Answer it if you like, or just scroll on by if you don't want to hear what I have to say. Time will tell as to who got it right about Jon.
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I so agree with your last sentence. On the show, I thought Jon was so loving with the kids. A great dad and good husband (heck, Kate extolled Jon's virtues many times in her journals). After the split, I was shocked by his behavior and appearance. But then, he seemed to come around and own his actions and mistakes, but most of all, I like that he's been virtually off the grid, despite many, many digs from Kate.
What I do not see is Jon or Robert making any money to speak of from this book, noting that Robert is donating any proceeds as mentioned on his website.
This money trail? Not a clue.
It's been said many a time, but criticism of someone's public behaviour in a public forum is not bullying! Has some gone over the edge, yes, on both sides and by a few people. However, according to Kate there are masses harassing and 'bullying' her daily … here's some truths for you Kate.
Don't want people criticizing or discussing the way you treat, raise and abuse your children, don't do it on TV or Twitter.
Don't want people criticizing or discussing the way you abuse your past and now ex-husband by belittling him, smacking him; treating him like dirt, passive aggressively or out-right agreeing with vile posts about him or not telling your fans to cease discussing, wishing harm upon or belittling the father of your 8 children, don't do it on TV or Twitter.
Don't want people criticizing or discussing the way you abuse and turn away family & friends, treating them like slaves, condescendingly, dismissing their opinions, publicly ostracizing and insulting them, don't do it on TV or Twitter.
According to your standards and the way you're whining to bullyville, all of the above is bullying and you don't believe that it's right to treat people that way ... HAH!
Apparently your fans also have the same confusion, as long as you or they are not bullied or criticized, it's all good. Let's face it, any transgressions you may have made are in the past, to be forgiven, you're a wonderful woman & mother, because you know, you have 8 kids! While any transgressions Jon may have made in the past are not forgiven, are never to be forgiven, oh, he also has 8 kids, but let's face it, he's a man so it doesn't matter and shall forever be cursed for his past behaviour, even if it was only a few months!
Blinders are on, hatred is in the heart and let the 'bullying' of Jon continue by Kate's wonderful fans … just as long as no one dare criticize poor, helpless, downtrodden, Kate … hypocrites!
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