Saturday, September 29, 2012

Discussion Thread: ‘Kate Gosselin: How She Fooled the World,’ Chapters 5-7


Are you there God? It's me, Kate.



We will do a “book club” style discussion of a few chapters at a time as we read the book together. You are free to read with the group or skip ahead. You are also free to discuss whatever you like, however if you want to partake in the book club discussion, this thread is here to discuss the designated chapters. Robert Hoffman’s book “Kate Gosselin: How She Fooled the World” is available on Amazon for Kindle. The Kindle app is free for multiple platforms, including PCs.



5. Bad Blog

Kate obsessively reads what is said about her on the internet, from Google news alert to the Gosselin blogs. Undeniably the first online presence to ever call Kate out was the Reading Eagle, a small but respected local newspaper. Staff member Dana Hoffman kept a blog on the site detailing Kate's misdeeds. Kate's people eventually called up the Reading Eagle and asked them to shut down her blog. Within hours the paper removed it from the site. Kate keeps files on her computer with information from blogs and even on their moderators. The file folder for Dana's blog was entitled "Bad Blog."

In January 2008, Kate also asked Discovery to remove Television Without Pity's Jon and Kate forum (which in fact was closed eventually, in June 2008), and the Discovery Health Channel forum. 

Kate's house is in a rural neighborhood and surrounded by farmland. She once drove the kids three hours to Maryland to trick-or-treat in her bodyguard Steve's neighborhood. 

When Jodi and Kevin spoke publicly about what they saw, Kate fired off an email to Discovery with her three favorite words: "Can we sue?"

6. The Good Mom (Note from Admin: Nice play on The Good Son!)


According to a member of Kate's family, Kate has been diagnosed with bi-polar, but refuses to take medication. 

Hoffman once observed Kate with the kids when she was having a very stable, happy day. She and the nanny, Judy, took the sextuplets to get donuts, later they went to the park and spent a long time there, then met up with another mother and her daughter for a play date back at the house. Hoffman also observed her chatting up and flirting with a park employee. 

7. Kate's God Complex


Kate talks incessantly about God and credits God with everything from the salary of their show to her house to her grifted plastic surgery to allowing her to do a commercial. In one entry she writes:


“I asked her how that works as far as our rate going up from Disc Health network and the ‘fringe benefits’ as I call them…. She said that the amount we are paid per show will not take away from what they (AMP) will provide for us. She used the examples of the kids  beds… she said those things come out of their (AMP) budget from the network.  So that is almost mind boggling to me we will be paid for each episode and receive fringe benefits!!!!! Lord, how great thou art!!!!!”

Kate felt God was "urging" her to quit her nursing job. 


Kate said that if Discovery wasn't going to pay for the beds she wasn't going to allow them to film the episode about beds. Jen (producer Jen Stocks) was annoyed by this.

As for Jon, Kate wrote:  “I pray that his complacency would leave him and would turn into passion for the Lord! Lord PLEASE help Jon to desire these things!!!!!! Help him to become a man of integrity!!!!! Lord please!!!!! He could be the perfect man if he could get these things under control and let God take control!!!!!”

Alexia foods sent four cases of fries. Other food was sent by others or offered at reduced prices. Fans, friends and family sent gift cards and cash, including $250 from Kate's parents, and Kate attributed it all to God.

Kate writes this about the children: “Lord I am begging you to help me be a loving caring kind and slow to anger mommy. Please stop me somehow from hurting my kids and help me to be slow to anger!!!! I love them SOOO much. Help them to obey me!!!!! And not get into trouble!!!!! Please Lord, amen!!!!”


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Improbable Dreams said...

The twit's tweets said... 2
New post up at Gosselinbookblogspot. Robert addresses the Pennmommy issue
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Nicely played, Robert. Chess, not checkers.

Unknown said...

The worst of the abuse documented at this point was when the six were TWO years old. They are now much older, and able to talk to people when they are out of Kate's clutches. If they want to, they can talk to teachers, other kids, and most of all to JON.

I wonder if that had anything to do with Jon finally managing to get 50% custody of the children?

GKWay said...

It truly astonishes me how blatant the gender inequality is about this whole travesty. If Jon was the one that had kept these journals about 'spanking' his kids, pulling their hair, whipping them into their crib 'hard', I doubt anyone in the media or general public would be so dismissive about 'oh, i was hit with a spoon in my day and I turned out fine.'

You know for a fact that everyone would be calling for a criminal investigation about the abuse and 'fraud' of good citizens who just wanted to help a 'young and financially strapped couple'. Everyone would be calling Jon a child abuser, a swindler and no-good for nothing asshole. But here we are again with this "Kate is a mother of 8, she is too busy to write a journal", "you would be overwhelmed too if you had that many kids"...blah blah blah.

Even now having proof of what she wrote about regarding her kids, grifting from companies, church goers from her own mouth, the media and sheeples are still not convinced. I don't think even if they saw something with their own eyes and hearing it with their own ears would they be convinced.

Sandusky and Penn state got away with it so why not Katie Kreider?

It seems like common sense has disappeared altogether and it is now an exception instead of the norm. Is it me or has society become a very shameful bunch?

Audible Click said...

Psst... Robert! It's "bear" not "bare", unless you want all your blog readers to get nekkid. ;)

The twit's tweets said...

Kate and her minions (including TLC/Discovery) are messing with the wrong person and he is standing up to them - with PROOF.

Foolish, enabling sheeple.

Keep up the good work Robert!

Anonymous said...

2 new posts at Gosselin Book.

The one where he sticks it to the sheep is priceless!!!

Mackenzie

localyocul said...

Thank you Robert for the PennMommy explanation! Take care!

Jumping In said...

Someone up thread commented on "follow the money" theory. I agree.

Tomorrow, Katie Couric will show us what she is made of. She was a respected news anchor at CBS, she has done many serious interviews on the TODAY show.

Her new show reflects her bubbly side, yet she is addressing serious topics on her show. Tomorrow's show is about the reality television, and how real is actually is, so, not terribly deep.

Let's assume the show was taped AFTER Robert Hoffman's book was made public. I would assume it is legally off the table for discussion tomorrow, but if Katie has some say over in own show she should be at least able to reference the book. Something along the lines of, "Kate, there is an inflammatory book which your lawyers have pulled off the Internet, would you like to address any of the allegations in the book?". Again, IF this show was taped after the publication of the book and Katie says nothing, then I say it is all about the networks and following the money.

FYI said...

AMI and the brands they own:

http://www.americanmediainc.com/categories/media-brands

Brands

OK!

Soap Opera Digest

Shape

Star

Fit Pregnancy

National Enquirer

Natural Health

Globe

M & F Hers

Country Weekly

Playboy

Men's Fitness

Muscle & Fitness

Radar Online

Flex

Formerly Duped said...

My friend puts j's in her e-mails- I concluded it meant when she makes a joke?

What's Next? said...

Googled the "J" question and this is what I found:

"Finally, today I stumbled upon an answer. Not only does it explain why the J would appear in contexts that would both be joking and not joking, but it also explains the odd font deal. If I had been observant or caring enough, I might have noticed another pattern, the odd appearance of J only happened when the sender sent the message from Outlook.

The simple answer to the crazy mystery of the ‘J’s is that Microsoft uses a Wingding to render a smily in Outlook. The Wingding happyface happens to be at the same position as a J in the standard ASCII sets. So, on all clients other than Outlook, it renders as an out-of-place looking J."

Done and done said...

From the email chain with Gina (thank you mamaK!)

Actually ate yesterday....And not planning to eat much on Sunday....So darn yummy! Just drinking...Lightly!
We tried out our pom martini recipe last night...It's perfection!
See you soon! Have The Price Is Right for thw Wii. Will have to try it!
Kate

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Well looks like that little passage confirms our anorexia suspicions. Jealous my ass - this woman needs serious help!!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Robert says he personally spoke to an older church goer who had been in the home. Sounds to me like just a coincidence that both stories involved yogurt. It's a common food, even showing up on Kate's shopping list.

chesterctymom said...

From GosselinBook: "I would suggest that a better story to pursue would be why TLC and Discovery kept filming this family for five (?) seasons knowing full well that Kate Gosselin was abusing her children. I've been told that there is much footage of this that obviously never saw the light of day."

You RH, are a rockstar.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Any time you want to modify the custody order in PA even if it's just a tweak you have to go take a parenting class.

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Is it a parenting class, focusing on parenting techniques? Or is it a Parents Beyond Conflict type class, which focuses on positive parenting despite conflict with your ex? In my opinion there is a huge difference. Though I'm glad they are encouraging parent/conflict education.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


From GosselinBook: "I would suggest that a better story to pursue would be why TLC and Discovery kept filming this family for five (?) seasons knowing full well that Kate Gosselin was abusing her children. I've been told that there is much footage of this that obviously never saw the light of day."


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You and us both. The deflections are shameful. Look over here over here, don't look over there at the abused children!

Improbable Dreams said...

I'm glad that Robert took to his blog to provide specifics re the interviewee with whom he discussed the yogurt incident.

Broader than that, I appreciate that he's systematically peeling away the superficial arguments & distractions, so as to help bring the real issues back to center stage.

readerlady said...

Robert says "Keep spinning bloggers.

I wouldn't expect you to care about 8 kids that you've never met before. After all, you're not teachers or nurses or advocates, right?"

Oooooooooh SNAP!! You go, Robert!

FYI said...

I am glad to see that Robert is not backing down.

Thank you Robert for explaining the Pennmommy accusation and the misquote at ROL.

As the enablers always say to Kate, I will say to you--

"We've got your back!!!"

readerlady said...

I can't help but compare this whole thing to the LeBron James debacle last year. Hundreds of thousands of people, maybe even millions of them, turned against him and want his head on KK's golden platter for moving to another team that promised him more money. Yet they find every excuse in the book to overlook KK's abuse of her children. Where are people's priorities?

NOTE: I'm not a LeBron James fan. I'm not a Cleveland Cavaliers fan. I'm not a fan of pro basketball. So please, don't shoot the messanger :) .

All This Is That said...

Audible Click said... 7

Psst... Robert! It's "bear" not "bare", unless you want all your blog readers to get nekkid. ;)

====================

Psst...Robert -- NICE WORK (latest blog post). It's "dragged" into court, not drug into court, unless you're there on an illegal substance charge! :)

In sticking it to the sheeple, I'm surprised that Robert didn't dig deeper into the "friendship" of Kate with her obsessed master internet sleuth buddy (and the demise of the cruise). He did point out some of the sheeple with whom she was befriending, and their profane tweets, but it would have been interesting to see more of the tweets to and from the cruise vetter, especially since Kate was excited and thrilled that she would meet this person on the cruise. Does Kate know this person's reputation on the blogs, and if she does, how does she justify maintaining an internet "relationship" with this person?

Incredible Wow said...

I'd like to thank Robert for calling out two of the biggest hypocrites among Kate's defenders/enablers.

"I wouldn't expect you to care about eight kids that you've never met before. After all, you're not teachers or nurses or advocates, right?"

I'm sure P and A will ignore this, just like they ignore Kate's confessions of viciously abusing her toddlers.

What's Next? said...

Robert wrote:

"Can there be people walking around out there in 2012 who could actually be that stupid and blind to reality?

My guess is no and they’re just another part of the Kate Gosselin spin machine."

Well that would explain why they would do anything to deflect away from the story about the children and try to discredit Robert. Could it be that they are paid to do this? It certainly would explain how a person could be so doggedly determined to defend and deflect when they have no way of knowing it's not true. The possibility sure opens up another perspective to this, doesn't it?

Anonymous said...

I feel terrible for Robert. He was very clear in his email to ROL that Jon had no involvement in obtaining the computer information. For some reaso ROL is trying to deflect and throw Jon under the bus.

Marie

Anonymous said...

"...just another part of the Kate Gosselin spin machine."

I've often wondered about that - but really there are so few of them, a few cogs in the machine maybe - but they are well oiled.

bm

wayward said...

@PeggyScot @deannatweeting @Kateplusmy8 @BlogHawg Exactly....what a weirdo/wacko man 2hide N bushes stalkin a family's kid event! #RabidMan about 3 hours ago
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Oh Milo, the research Robert did is not NEAR as creepy as his subject.

Kate told the kids who made her a millionairess several times over, they were getting batteries, underwear and something else (I can't remember- it was equally as crappy) for Easter. Then, Jon made a motion for a custody change (the 50/50) and Kate heard he was planning an egg hunt.

SO.

Kate then tweeted for weeks about her big eloborate egg hunt, 1,200 eggs and gifts galore. Robert knew that not only was Kate lying, she was sending out her special batshrew signal for the paps to come. Kate does not go to this much effort for the kids. Ever. And he was correct. Two people rolled up in a van with storage tubs full of already filled plastic eggs and THEY hid them. When the kids had the hunt, Kate sat inside, drank wine and never came out.

Last Christmas Kate told the kids they were getting only one gift each because the show was canceled. Then this terrible information leaked out. To save face, she bought more gifts and tweeted for weeks that she was wrapping every night and the piles never got smaller. Here's the kicker- Robert's research revealed every single gift was wrapped in blank newsprint with names written in pen directly on the paper. No bows, no ribbons, no gift tags.

Who does this? Who goes to the effort to find grey newsprint to wrap gifts in? Is it even cheaper than xmas wrap? I can't imagine the wild goose chase Kate sent the nanny 'o the moment on to find such a huge quantity of this thin, ugly paper. IMO, that was Kate's FU to her own kids. She was forced to buy more gifts, but she would be damned if they were gonna be pretty & festive, too. The wrapped gifts included in some of her photos were from fans. SAd.

THAT is creepy. THAT is wacko. THAT is weird.

I'll take someone who digs through trash over someone who holds seething resentment and anger over her own precious children any day.

VegasBaby said...

Dmasy ~
thank-you!
My (disposable) email is rebel4243-5613@yahoo.com if anyone is willing to share. I'm not sure how easy it is to email through my account, I've never tried, just registered to use here.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

"Can there be people walking around out there in 2012 who could actually be that stupid and blind to reality?"

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Yes, there are, and we've talked about the ignorance of the sheeple many, many times. We've questioned how these people can take care of themselves, much less their families, when they are so blind to the world around them.

Moreover, it's sad when you realize that many of them are teenagers and very young adults who idolize Kate to the point of having 5,000 photos of her, and the ones who consider her their role models and want to raise their children just as she is raising her children. You can only hope and pray that this fascination wears off, and as time goes by, they will mature and grow out of that celebrity-obsession phase and come to their senses.

Then there's Milo, and the platitude-tweeter with the hole in her heart, and the one who demonizes Jon, and a couple other strange characters out there, and unfortunately you just know that there's no hope for them. You cross your fingers that these people are in the minority and will not be dangerous if she, on a whim, decides to ignore them.

Tucker's Mom said...

Who goes to the effort to find grey newsprint to wrap gifts in? Is it even cheaper than xmas wrap? I can't imagine the wild goose chase Kate sent the nanny 'o the moment on to find such a huge quantity of this thin, ugly paper. IMO, that was Kate's FU to her own kids
******
Kate gets the ends of newspaper roll from the local paper for free. It's terrific for doodling etc, but a bit bleak for present wrapping.
Madam all things creative could have gone to Michaels and bought ink pads and stamps for a couple bucks and gussied the paper up.
Coupons in the Sunday paper every week too!

Unknown said...

They keep IGNORING this part, don't they?

''As for Kate Gosselin's journal, I think you know that I was given and passed a lie detector test by AMI specifically focusing on the acquisition and content of Kate's journal.''

Angela Ro.. said...

Robert wrote:

"Can there be people walking around out there in 2012 who could actually be that stupid and blind to reality?

I know Robert is reading here and I just want to say yes, there are people that are that stupid and blind.

Then there is me! ;)

wayward said...

MiloandJack@Kateplusmy8 Rest assured each day that goes by..the demeanor of ur kids/their works at school testify as2what a fine mother u have been! :) about 8 hours ago
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Good God. I seriously think Kate could be caught on surveilance camera sticking up a Turkey Hill cashier at gunpoint and taking him hostage. Milo would tweet "All your workin out is payin off! You go girl, nothin wrong with using those muscles you work so hard for to get a little extra spendin money! #Katiegeturgun!! #yogamama

Bleccch. I need a shower.

All This Is That said...

What's really scary is that the sheeple are so busy trying to discredit Robert for going through a trash can or hiding in the bushes that in their deflection they can't see the forest for the trees -- that these are Kate's words, her journals, her e-mails. They can't address this because there is no defense of it. All they can do is to shoot the messenger. It appears they are up s##t's creek without a paddle and in order to stay afloat, they have nothing left but to attack him.

If Kate wouldn't have been so stupid as to discard these Discovery "trade secrets," this book wouldn't have the impact that it has. She has nobody to blame but herself.

When I think of those precious babies being whipped into their cribs, my heart breaks. How could you look into their little faces and just keep hitting them and hitting them? My gosh -- this is their mother -- she's supposed to be protecting them. As babies unable to speak, they can't say "why are you hitting me?" They don't understand physical punishment. It was very difficult for me to read parts of this book, and I had to put it down several times and take a breather.

And yet there are those who celebrate her as Super Mom. As a society, is this what we've become?

A Mom said...

Kate Gosselin not twittering; wonder if she's tapeing KATIE's show? Do hope she is and do hope if she is that KATIE ask at least 1 question on the "Gosselinbook". Will watch NOT to see Kate with a ton of makeup or listen to her "ummmmmmmmmms", but to see if KATIE still ask important questions.

NJGal51 said...

I've just done a search on the Katie Couric show and discovered that my area doesn't carry it as the local stations decided do show something else in that time slot. I hope someone will take one for the team and let us know how she does.

localyocul said...

OK could someone let me in on who the nurse and teacher are?

Parent In Lancaster County said...

Does anyone know if PennMommy looks like Edith Bunker? :-)

MiloandJack@Kateplusmy8 Rest assured each day that goes by..the demeanor of ur kids/their works at school testify as2what a fine mother u have been! :)

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How in the name of all that's holy does Milo know anything about what the kids are doing in school, and that they are doing well? Just because Kate tells her so? The same Kate who denied that the kids were expelled, and that it was a mutual decision to remove them from school? Happy to see that Robert posted the letter from Junior (and yes, that's really his first name!)...

All This Is That said...

local asked..."OK could someone let me in on who the nurse and teacher are?"

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Over on IW, these are the mods, as well as a social worker.

localyocul said...

Thank you this and that. I thought I had read that ealier on the thread but wasn't sure. I've never gone there.

AnnaOkie said...

This is a question for you, Admin. According to Robert's sources (former crew members, I believe), there is footage of Kate's abuse of her children that has never aired. Now that TLC/Disc have sent a C&D letter to Robert concerning trade secrets he has supposedly revealed, do they have a responsibility to maintain any documents and or "never-aired" footage which could confirm the child abuse? Or can they dispose of it in the event these parties face off in court and there would be no proof of their knowledge of the abuse? I know once discovery requests are made, it is a very bad thing to to damage, destroy or alter any of the records........just not sure if they could legally, if not ethically, destroy all that footage before they file suit against Robert.

PatK said...

Wayward...35

OMG, I literally lauged out loud (and scared the cat) when I read your faux Milo tweet! That was so spot on.

fidosmommy said...

I am STILL waiting for a Kate fan to give me a
substantive answer to my question (our question.)

What is it that you admire in her? Use real descriptions, please. Awesome, fabulous, supermom don't say anything much unless you tell me/us HOW she's awesome, fabulous, supermom. Is it simply because she had 8 kids?
Because she is famous? Would you still love her if she was just a lady across town who had
a lot of kids and didn't bring it to your attention daily? Would you still want to go on cruise with her or meet her for a shopping trip and send her gifts?

I really am seriously perplexed and would like a serious, explanatory reply. Please and thank you.

All This Is That said...

local said..."Thank you this and that. I thought I had read that ealier on the thread but wasn't sure. I've never gone there."

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Nor have I...just know what I read on an anti-Kate blog. You're welcome.

I am one of eight said...

I just saw on Theresa Caputo's (Long Island Medium)twitter account that she is not going to be on Katie Couric tomorrow. Also, on the Katie Couric web page, it had listed Abby Lee Miller and another group of people and they are not listed anymore. There is a picture of Kate up there though.

AuntieAnn said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 177

What's everyone going as at our virtual Halloween party? I'm sure there will be several meat slicers. I may change mine now to a hard drive never wiped clean.

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I'll be going as a CPS caseworker. You'll know me, I'll be carrying a very thick file under my left arm and a bottle of Rumspringa in my right hand.

I've been watching this blog from the bleachers lately. Kate Gosselin is repulsive. I don't want to get too close to her.

You Go Robert!! (from the cheerleading section)


Dmasy - welcome back. Hope you didn't do anything that has to stay in Vegas.

Wayward @ 35 lol! I'm waiting for Milo to ask Kate for a pic of her twisted like a pretzel. I highly doubt she's even doing yoga. Meditation she had down pat though...Auuuummmmm Auuuuuuuuumm

Anonymous said...

A children's social worker. One who should really care when children are at risk. One who should know that there is more to a healthy life than nice clothes and a private school. One who should be ashamed of associating with people who pretend to care about children, but only really care about being right.
I hope the very imperfect women at IW are proud of themselves for their continued advocacy for the mother of kids who were punished for toilet training accidents, for getting out of a crib.

Think about this: What if the woman who had yogurt in the fridge told her story to someone, who then used it gain the confidence of the mods at GWoP. Does its use negate the original incident? Just because Pennmommy deceived people does not mean Robert is deceiving. The two things are not the same, and saying it is doesn't make it so. It's a deflection, and not a very good one at that.

She's come undone said...

Hey Milo, you idiot! What's worse, a grown man hiding in the bushes OR a freak who calls herself a mom and brutally beats her tiny children. Everything else pales in comparison. And you, Milo, are as twisted as the other sheeple when you look for a way to defend Kate. Have you no shame? Is it going to take one of her children winding up in the hospital or dead before you stop this idiotic idolizing?

Anonymous said...

Remona Blue,
The Z sheeple said people "pass lie detectors tests everyday" yeah, ok.

Wayward-(post 35) I actually laughed out loud!!

Monrovia said...

We can only hope that Couric's other guests bailed because they refused to share a stage with her evilness?

And Wayward - your "I'll take someone who digs through trash over someone who holds seething resentment and anger over her own precious children any day." is one of the best things I've read in a while. Love your comments.

localyocul said...

OOne of 8 (Haha how did yourit mom doa it?)And it she says she will be on Mon instead. Hmm

Moi said...

At the VERY least, I hope CPS, or whatever it's called in Penn, will conduct ongoing child welfare checks with the eight.

Individual interviews by skilled social workers would provide a lot of insight.

Wowser said...

The sheeple are as dumb as their queen....the lawyers can't go after Robert for LIBEL because Kate has already taken him to court and he proved the material was hers as well as the info and he took a lie detector test and won! TLC and discovery do not give a crap about Kate anymore...they care about themselves and damage control and losing their reputation(what's left of it) and it's all about how it will affect revenue! They've already put Kate out with the trash to the curb when they cancelled her show....they just should have checked what was in the trash can with her! If anything, they should sue Kate! For leaking information to the public.

Francesca said...

Just tried to post this at HuffingtonPost for the G kids and Robert but doubt it will go through so going to put it here. Hope thats ok Admin

Oh absolutely Huffington Post, spin Ms Gosselin into a positive light...no shades of Sandusky here! Nuh Uh! Once those kids are grown and can tell their story and it comes out so many (of you media) knew but did nothing, well, no biggie. It was only beatings ya know...she rode their backs for cash. Happens all the time!
Yes, lets all look the other way. Nothing to see here folks. Nothing at all!

Somewhere, sometime, someone will take a stand....it will happen.
And like now, they will probably be pushed aside and told to shut up.
Money talks

Your Son, your daughter...who will take the chance?
Probably no one, after all, look how they, those who speak/spoke up are treated

Your son, your daughter....your children...their children...
and on and on the cycle goes...

Rest in peace childhood...when $$$ and industry is involved, you are nothing. Hopefully you will be fine and if not, Huffington Post will cover your arrival into a reality rehab...it will be great for all!

Fist bumps to all survivors past, present and future
You never had a chance!

Anonymous said...

For those who can post at Huff Po, here is another BS post.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/02/robert-hoffman-kate-gosselin-book_n_1933808.html

And lookie loo who showed up in the comments, AW,

Molly12 said...

I have been working so haven’t caught up on all the posts so I apologize if this has been discussed. She is going to have to address the book at some point. I could see her using the excuse that she had post partum depression or was so stressed being a new mom at such a young age and with so many children she just got overwhelmed. She could then say that she recognized there was a problem and got help for her issues. Just think, a whole new reason to hit the talk show circuit! How Kate Overcame Being A Momster.

Julianna said...

Wowser @55...The sheeple are as dumb as their queen....the lawyers can't go after Robert for LIBEL because Kate has already taken him to court and he proved the material was hers as well as the info and he took a lie detector test and won!

888888888888888888888

Robert went to court over this? When did this happen?

librarylady said...

Hmm, is Katie C trying to jump on this convenient opportunity to get an "exclusive"? Will she use her excellent and not-afraid interviewing skills as she has in the past, or cave to the powers that be?

Or maybe they scrapped everyone after everything and are running a rerun!

I am one of eight said...

My mom did it the mediocre way - she worked as a nurse! I know it's been said by some that a nurse's salary won't be enough to raise 8 kids but I'm living proof. Of course instead of a mansion, we had plenty of time with family and cousins. And our first big vacation was to the Grand Canyon in a borrowed popup camper! Too many happy memories to list!

Anonymous said...

All This Is That said... 36

What's really scary is that the sheeple are so busy trying to discredit Robert for going through a trash can or hiding in the bushes that in their deflection they can't see the forest for the trees -- that these are Kate's words, her journals, her e-mails. They can't address this because there is no defense of it. All they can do is to shoot the messenger. It appears they are up s##t's creek without a paddle and in order to stay afloat, they have nothing left but to attack him.

If Kate wouldn't have been so stupid as to discard these Discovery "trade secrets," this book wouldn't have the impact that it has. She has nobody to blame but herself.

When I think of those precious babies being whipped into their cribs, my heart breaks. How could you look into their little faces and just keep hitting them and hitting them? My gosh -- this is their mother -- she's supposed to be protecting them. As babies unable to speak, they can't say "why are you hitting me?" They don't understand physical punishment. It was very difficult for me to read parts of this book, and I had to put it down several times and take a breather.

And yet there are those who celebrate her as Super Mom. As a society, is this what we've become?

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Exactly! It's idiotic.

Paper Plates Forever! Yay! said...

I've enjoyed lurking the past while. I've got nothing more to say about that skank. I am done. But I do want to thank everyone for the spoilers. I know myself too well. While I want to buy/read the book, I am afraid of how it will make me feel. I don't want to be any angrier than I am about who she is and what she has done in the name of fame whoring. I trust everyone's opinion that after reading Robert's book, she truly is an evil, mentally unstable woman. Let's hope those kids are resilient and can eventually overcome their childhoods. I also believe Jon is a loving man. You can't fake that stuff. You either have it or you don't. He is gentle and loved by his kids. The kids have a better chance of getting through this with a loving father who is a constant in their lives.

FYI said...

At 5:45pm ET, Teresa Caputo(LI Medium) tweeted:

Theresa Caputo‏@Theresacaputo
Sorry guys I'm not going to be on Katie tomorrow so don't set your dvr. Lol. Set it for Monday that's when I'm going on!!! Love you guys!

At 4:20pm ET, Todd Hoffman(Gold Rush) tweeted:

Todd Hoffman‏@goldrushtodd
Between 7-7:30 I will be heading into the building where Katie Couric does her show. Remember the secret phrase "Christo is a dork".

Abby Miller hasn't tweeted anything about the show.

So it looks like Katie's show may have ditched the original show premise for tomorrow and taped the other's for a different segment segments tonight.

tvguide.com doesn't have any listing for Katie's show on their website. Yesterday, they had a week's worth. Could be that they haven't received the revised schedule yet.

I think the show tomorrow will be all about Kate-I wonder if one of her lawyers will be there with her. She'd be stupid to try to wing it by herself.

Tamara said...

Fidosmommy, here's 5 million cuppas, 2 million pints of rumspringa and 3 years worth of free pizza so you don't starve during your wait for that answer. If you need anything else just use the red courtesy phone. :)

AnnaOkie said...

Hhhhmmmmm........don't post often, but the last time I did, I was blue????? Will try commenting by signing in differently and see if I can get back to blue.

I had a great idea for a costume to our virtual Halloween party. I was going topless as the email picture of Jamie which she sent to Jon, however my family is poo-pooing the idea as they are not trusting the "virtual" part too much.

Just passing through with a smile on my face which is kinda tough with so many reading and sharing all about Kate's exploits. My thoughts have generally switched between feeling sick when I read something about Kate beating her babies and feeling really humbled by Mr. Hoffman and his courage in getting the word out about the abuse of those poor Gosselin children. When this sick feeling is gone and I can move on to anger, will be grateful.

Baseball Fever said...

"And lookie loo who showed up in the comments, AW"

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Can WG be far behind? I swear those two are joined at the hip.

wayward said...

Wayward @ 35 lol! I'm waiting for Milo to ask Kate for a pic of her twisted like a pretzel. I highly doubt she's even doing yoga. Meditation she had down pat though...Auuuummmmm Auuuuuuuuumm

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Lol! Thank you guys!

I am waiting for Milo to somehow slip in her 157th request since July for a Shoka pic. She is arguably Kate's biggest fan but she's not buyin that Shoka is still around.

If anyone knows what Shoka's true status is, could they send up a smoke signal? A little hint? Anything? I just have a feeling Shoka Joe went... somewhere else after throwing up the whole rotted possum in the house.

librarylady said...

Since all the people supposed to be on there are Discovery/TLC, I'm wondering what kind of connection or arrangement (trade secret? lol) the Katie C show might have with them. Since the "actors" can't give away the so-called and always obvious "trade secrets", I can't imagine what kind of truthful statements could ever come out on such a show. Just fluff and spin.

Although Abby Lee has always been pretty brash with her honesty about the show - I always wonder if TLC ever told her to be quiet, lol.

Tucker's Mom said...

I think the show tomorrow will be all about Kate-I wonder if one of her lawyers will be there with her. She'd be stupid to try to wing it by herself.
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With this shitstorm, I think Kate would be well advised to lay LOW, put her head down and weather the storm. With her hubris and ego, my bet is that she'll go on Katie's show with lots and lots of conditions that she has control of the narrative, which is to say, it will be same shit, different day.
What WILL happen is Kate's dry tears, pitying herself once again.

Scrubbing said...

Heads up Huff Po is scrubbing comments as fast as you can make them. I take it Al the ass had my reply flagged as abusive which it was not.

Amazing how he gets to post a link to his shitty blog there. Hmmmm

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said... 37
Is he the better parent--yes, no doubt. But, he abandoned his children--even left the country and moved several hours away, knowing that his children were being beaten and that their mother could not take care of them. Kate is not responsible for his weak character and his passivity--he brought that to their relationship and she exploited it.
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If you read the section in the book that details the divorce, you will realize how few options he had. Like one: to just go away.

He was responsible for the mess that was created. He was ALSO responsible for, eventually, putting a stop to it. And it is amazing that he was able to do so, when you really take a look at how much was against him. He couldn't even stop Kate from taking the kids out of state, he couldn't stop her from taking them out of the country.

CPS was called on the family, Jon was dealing with the court system. This is NOT giving him a pass, but what other option does he have? Kidnap eight kids, then get arrested?

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He had the option to find a place to live near his children, rather than in another state. Kate did not have the power to ban him from Pennsylvania.

librarylady said...

I think Al and Polly need to give it a rest. They've gotten basically zero attention from this, despite their best efforts.

FYI said...

Actually, Dance Moms is aired on Lifetime-not TLC.

Francesca said...

Just my opinion but Katie Irene will win again...those like here always do.
If money (esp big money) is involved, they will be protected and encouraged to continue.
Even without money, neighbors, friends, family, they dont talk..might upset the abuser ya know.

Either way, Katie and her prayers are answered again. Just another day in the neighborhood.

Im so sorry Robert...G8...those with a "past" and even worse, those with a "future" because those of us that try are shut down for the above reasons.

(shakes head)
Really, I am so very sorry

AuntieAnn said...

If anyone knows what Shoka's true status is, could they send up a smoke signal? A little hint? Anything? I just have a feeling Shoka Joe went... somewhere else after throwing up the whole rotted possum in the house.
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wayward I'm worried about him too. I hope he's living with Jon and Kate just won't admit to it.

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Although Abby Lee has always been pretty brash with her honesty about the show - I always wonder if TLC ever told her to be quiet, lol.
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Is Abby's show with TLC? I thought it was a different network.

librarylady said...

Oops, sorry, yes, Lifetime! As my kids (used to) say, my bad! lol. Too wrapped up and annoyed by TLC's embarrassing presentations, I guess. ;)

LB said...

I think we might have seen the newspaper paper before on j&k plus 8. I remember Kate unrolling a large roll of gray paper for the kids to draw on In dining room at the old house the day they filmed moving out to the 1.2 million house.

librarylady said...

According to her facebook update only a few minutes ago, Katie's show is still as planned (minus the LI medium only).

Just me said...

Remona Blue said... 33
They keep IGNORING this part, don't they?

''As for Kate Gosselin's journal, I think you know that I was given and passed a lie detector test by AMI specifically focusing on the acquisition and content of Kate's journal.''

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Not ignoring. Lie detector tests are unreliable. That is why they are not allowed into court. I would think especially ones given by a tabloid.

FYI said...

Hmm--now it's even getting more interesting. From at twitter account Katie(Katie Show)

Tweeted a few minutes ago:

katieshow
Reality TV says a lot about us & who we are-on tomorrow's #Katie, KC chats with Kate Gosselin @DanceMoms @GoldRushAlaska & @Theresacaputo!

katieshow
@DanceMoms1 Tweet to your followers-we have Holly & Nia and Christi & Chloe on the show tomorrow!! Tweet us your questions for them :)!

Guess we won't know anything for sure until 3pm ET tomorrow.

Moi said...

Kate recently wrote (someone help me find it) about her routines with the mail. Coupon Cabin? She mentioned putting her junk mail through the shredder.

Who does that? Someone who was careless in the past.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

We know that the uber/CEO sheeple are blaming Robert, but what about the sub-sheeple, Gilmer, Leah, Gypsi, Rhonda "help me" 3Boz, fostermom? Are they rallying around Kate, or just pretty much staying out of it?

Anonymous said...


There's two stories on Huff Po, one by Ryan something (AW;s comment is there) and the other by the naughty Rob guy.

AuntieAnn said...

With her hubris and ego, my bet is that she'll go on Katie's show with lots and lots of conditions that she has control of the narrative, which is to say, it will be same shit, different day.
What WILL happen is Kate's dry tears, pitying herself once again.
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Tucker's Mom, I am wondering about that. If Couric lets Kate go on and on about how RH's book is overblown and all a bunch of hooey..."I'm a hardworking, single mom of EIGHT... I cook organically, I have a meat slicer" blah blah bullshit, then Couric will look pretty stupid too. I don't watch her show, is she anything like Meredith Vierira? I'm okay with women standing united on a lot of things, but NOT when it comes to child abuse.


Mel said...

He had the option to find a place to live near his children, rather than in another state. Kate did not have the power to ban him from Pennsylvania. 

True.
But my theory is that initially some tv show set Jon up in that apartment in NYC. They were going to make a show about him, or divorced dads, or something.
Or at least they led him to believe that to be the case. And he, being gullible and still in love with the idea of fame, fell for it.
I also think he truly thought he could get out of the TLC contract. Or his crack legal team led him to believe that he could.
Then TLC put the kabosh on Jon filming ANYTHING that wasn't Jon & Kate Plus 8.
So much for his ability to earn any money to support his family in the style to which they had been accustomed.

Moi said...

At this point I think Al and Polly should continue to post their bitter jealous diatribes.

They are digging themselves into even deeper holes, and have lost all credibility.

I think the truth (even when it's hard to take) is better than lies. Those two have shown their true selves to be petty ugly little people.

They'll fade away quickly, only to be minimally propped up by their few unstable blog friends.

FYI said...

You can see the promo for tomorrow's show on katiecouric.com

http://www.katiecouric.com/on-the-show/2012/10/03/who-we-are-through-reality-tv/

It includes Teresa Caputo, although she tweeted she wouldn't be on until Monday.

Looks like one hand doesn't know what the other is doing.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Lie detector tests are unreliable. That is why they are not allowed into court. I would think especially ones given by a tabloid.

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Not true. In some states, the results may be admitted into evidence if approved by both parties. Even in federal courts they may be used at the judge's discretion.

JW said...

For those of you who weren't able to get the book (dee3 & others?), send me an email to my just created/disposable email address "PrayForGosselinKids@yahoo.com" and I'll send to you. I just ask that you make a donation to Robert's fund.

FYI said...

Moi-From Kate's CC blog about keeping kids organized:

"The amount of junk mail that comes into any given home is astounding! When I collect my mail, I instantly sort it. The junk pile goes immediately into the shredder when I walk in the front door."

Moi said...

Thanks, I just KNEW she's mentioned shredding her junk mail recently.

Tucker's Mom said...

AuntieAnn said... 86
*****
I really like Katie Couric and the Today Show's best days started to wane when she left. She was "perky" Katie.
Couric then went serious, eschewed the perky moniker and anchored national news. Her ratings never took off, despite absolutely nailing Sarah Palin like the seasoned pro that she is.
Katie is a fun, light show, from the promos that I've seen. I'm not inclined to think that Katie will turn all bulldog on Kate Gosselin and tackle the issues that Robert has. Not at this point anyway.
It will be an absolute minefield to navigate an interview with Gosselin at this moment in time.
Katie can throw softballs, or use the latest bombshells that have finally reached a broader audience and insist on asking direct questions and not settle for subterfuge, half-truths, wrote coached answers and code-speak.
I really don't know what will happen, but am pretty sure that Kate will not back down from an opportunity to be on TV again. If Kate's people have any "juice" remaining, they will control the scope of the interview and it will go off without a whiff of controversy, or at least, controversy without a pat answer to misdirect the audience.

Unknown said...

Just me said... 81
Remona Blue said... 33
They keep IGNORING this part, don't they?
''As for Kate Gosselin's journal, I think you know that I was given and passed a lie detector test by AMI specifically focusing on the acquisition and content of Kate's journal.''
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Not ignoring. Lie detector tests are unreliable. That is why they are not allowed into court. I would think especially ones given by a tabloid.
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Oh thank you for reminding that lie detector tests are not allowed in court as evidence. You are so right. I agree. Though, I do believe that police will use a lie detector to clear people during an investigation. Oh well, what does that matter...I've already agreed that lie detector tests are unreliable, didn't I?

You are so smart to point out that the test was taken for a tabloid...especially when you remember that it is AMI that gave the test, and the brands they own are Brands,OK!, Soap Opera Digest, Shape, Star, Fit Pregnancy, National Enquirer, Natural Health, Globe, M & F Hers, Country Weekly, Playboy, Men's Fitness, Muscle & Fitness and Radar Online.

Wait. AMI owns Radar Online, right? Oh well, never mind. I've agreed with with you that lie detector tests given by a tabloid are unreliable!! That Robert is a sneaky one, I'm sure you'll agree.

NJGal51 said...

Matt F gave a shot out to this blog in his comment on KC's FB page:

Shame on you Katie! This is child abuse awareness month and you have a self proclaimed child abuser on. Please do your homework and go to www.realitytvkids.com and learn the truth and ask her why she pulls her kids hair, using objects to beat them and pinches them(all documented in her words and filmed on JK&8. Don't read pre-approved questions like every other interviewer has done. Have Robert Hoffman,author of Kate Gosselin-How She Fooled the World-on your show,go where no other interviewer has gone,the truth!!! 8 lives need to be saved!thank you

Fleecing The Sheeple said...

Just me, 81...Lie detector tests are unreliable. That is why they are not allowed into court. I would think especially ones given by a tabloid.

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Tabloids do not give lie detector tests. They are administered by certified polygraph examiners. Moreover, if directed to do so by a tabloid, I would think that they would make darn sure that the person giving the test is qualified. It's their neck on the line if they choose to print a story and later find out that the polygraph test was corrupted in some way.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

I think Al and Polly need to give it a rest. They've gotten basically zero attention from this, despite their best efforts.

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I think that they have gotten attention, but not the kind they wanted. It backfired on them, and they came out looking jealous, petty, and just plain desperate. It was not a smart move by either of them.

KathyB said...

If Kate is reading here I'd like to suggest she stop and think for awhile. You know Kate, reminisce about the days of your youth and the way you felt when your parents (dad in particular) punished you, screamed at you, "spanked" you, etc. and how you still feel about it. Now, imagine it TIMES 8! Little scary?At some point the defecation will hit the rotary oscillator and how will you feel then?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Lie detector tests are generally inadmissible in Pennsylvania period. Though that doesn't mean they aren't used. Cops also use lie detector tests all the time. They can be the difference between whether someone is charged or not, even if it's not allowed in court.

There are also ways to get around lie detector tests not being allowed in court. For instance I've scheduled them for clients and once they pass them I may show the other attorneys hey we have this lie detector test that checks out. You can use them to negotiate. It's an interesting way for Star to verify their stories but I guess it makes sense.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


MiloandJack@Kateplusmy8 Rest assured each day that goes by..the demeanor of ur kids/their works at school testify as2what a fine mother u have been! :)

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Given that Jon has the kids half the time, why wouldn't this also reflect on what a fine father he is?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...



I know it's fine and you were happy to have the blog quoted. But did RH obtain permission before adding posts from this blog to his book?

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No, he did not. However he used such few comments that that probably fall under Fair Use quite easily. I think what happened is he is an amateur with little experience in this area. He should have gotten some help, but I understand not wanting to involve more people than he had to, too.

AuntieAnn said...

Tucker's Mom, thanks. I agree. I doubt if she`ll give up an opportunity to sit in the makeup chair again, if only to rehearse her ums before the appearance.

If the book does come up I'm sure one of her attorneys will be sitting with her (and wishing he/she could withdraw their services). I have to wonder what they think about Kate.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Given that Jon has the kids half the time, why wouldn't this also reflect on what a fine father he is?

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That's too logical a concept for them to grasp, admin! Their brains aren't wired for cognitive thinking...and Milo's thought process doesn't work that way. She (or he) is too busy trying to figure out why Kate won't tweet a picture of Shoka. Jack is dying to know if his e-mail buddy is alive and well, and she's not giving Milo an answer.

Parent In Lancaster County said...

This was in our local news yesterday. It just makes you wonder if there isn't any safe haven for kids...

LANCASTER COUNTY, Pa. —

No changes to the foster care system are expected despite a 3-year-old girl being near death, her foster father behind bars and a state investigation.

Taken from her birth mother because she did not have a safe home of her own, 3-year-old Belle came to a home in Reinholds to live with 23-year-old Joshua Martin and his wife. They had been foster parents for two years.

Court papers show between Sept. 21 and 23, Martin got annoyed with Belle because she was throwing up. The documents said he admitted to getting rough with the 3-year-old, hitting her head on a wooden door frame and punching her in the face.

Belle is on life support at Penn State Hershey Medical Center.

Lancaster County Human Service Director Jim Laughman talked about the foster family on Tuesday.

"Everything came back crystal clear on the family. They had great references, everybody spoke very positively about them," Laughman said.

The county said it puts potential parents through state and federal background checks, does orientations, trainings, interviews and monthly home visits.

"There was no indication that there was any problem," Laughman said.

He said the county is looking into the problem, but it doesn't plan to make any changes right now.

"The reality may be we may never find a reason why. Sometimes people make bad choices and they snap," Laughman said.

Belle's mother said she is afraid someone else may snap. She is fighting to get her other two children out of foster care, even though they are no longer in the care of the Martins.


Unknown said...

Parent In Lancaster County said... 107
''This was in our local news yesterday. It just makes you wonder if there isn't any safe haven for kids...
LANCASTER COUNTY, Pa. —

No changes to the foster care system are expected despite a 3-year-old girl being near death, her foster father behind bars and a state investigation.''.........
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Oh dear God in Heaven.

Parent In Lancaster County said...

It was really disheartening to read about Kate throwing the Amish woman's handmade gifts into the trash. I guess those things just didn't fit into Kate's decor! I was glad to read that they did, however, get a good home. What really would have been funny is if there would have been a gift card taped to the back, and Kate never saw it!

Where's Jon, No more Kate said...

AuntieAnn said... 103
Tucker's Mom, thanks. I agree. I doubt if she`ll give up an opportunity to sit in the makeup chair again, if only to rehearse her ums before the appearance.

If the book does come up I'm sure one of her attorneys will be sitting with her (and wishing he/she could withdraw their services). I have to wonder what they think about Kate.

October 2, 2012 9:46 PM
Sleepless In Seattle said... 104
Given that Jon has the kids half the time, why wouldn't this also reflect on what a fine father he is?
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That's too logical a concept for them to grasp, admin! Their brains aren't wired for cognitive thinking...and Milo's thought process doesn't work that way. She (or he) is too busy trying to figure out why Kate won't tweet a picture of Shoka. Jack is dying to know if his e-mail buddy is alive and well, and she's not giving Milo an answer.
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And that last sentence is all I need to know for an answer! She has spent too much time trying to prove us wrong every change she could with rebuttal pictures or comments. The SILENCE regarding this is my answer.

Parent In Lancaster County said...

The G8 might have been 2 years old, but they were born pre-mature which means they were really one year old mentally, when she was whacking away on them with the spoon and G-d knows what else.

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I'm sorry, but I don't understand this reasoning.

HoboGirl said...

I don't believe any fans are teachers or social workers. They all live on welfare and sit on their asses and tweet all day.

Heide said...

Someone asked this, so I wanted to respond. I followed that whole Pennmommy thing while it was happening (and I fell for her story too). I saw a picture of her once and she looked NOTHING like an Edith Bunker type. I'd have guessed she was in her 30's.

wayward said...

AnnaOkie said... 67
Hhhhmmmmm........don't post often, but the last time I did, I was blue????? Will try commenting by signing in differently and see if I can get back to blue.

I had a great idea for a costume to our virtual Halloween party. I was going topless as the email picture of Jamie which she sent to Jon, however my family is poo-pooing the idea as they are not trusting the "virtual" part too much.
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Does anyone who read Al's book remember that he wrote that supposedly Jon claimed to have had uhhh... relations with Jamie once while she was visiting? It was at the E-Town house I believe and Kate had left to run an errand. I would double check but I recently threw the book away. If true, I'm thinking Jon must have likey what he saw in that picture she sent ;)

Al and Polly are making complete asses out of themselves. I think Polly is the worst. "My book is used in college classes." Wow, how super wonderful for YOU- how in the hell is that helping the Gosselin children? Her only motive for starting her blog was for research on her book. As soon as her book came out she essentially abandoned it. Never a word about donating even one cent to charity. She was just another person using the kids for fame and fortune. She actually had the balls to criticize Robert for not donating ALL his proceeds and not showing proof that it's going to CASA. The two of them are legitimately jellus, they both need to put their big girl panties on and get over themselves.

FYI said...

Just wanted to clarify something.

April is National Child Abuse Prevention Month, not October.

Parent In Lancaster County said...

The two of them are legitimately jellus, they both need to put their big girl panties on and get over themselves.

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Where does Al buy his big girl panties? Good's Store? :)

Unknown said...

I have been trying to post at Huffington Post but the comments are being held????

I've definitely been liking a lot of comments.

wayward said...

Where's Jon, No more Kate said... 112
That's too logical a concept for them to grasp, admin! Their brains aren't wired for cognitive thinking...and Milo's thought process doesn't work that way. She (or he) is too busy trying to figure out why Kate won't tweet a picture of Shoka. Jack is dying to know if his e-mail buddy is alive and well, and she's not giving Milo an answer.
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I'm still reeling over Milo's tweet that the kids are doin so great and it's a testament to Kate's present and past good parentin.

What I took from Robert's statement that there are some issues at school regarding the kids interations and lack of interactions with some of the staff, is that the lacking part could mean some of the kids should be getting counseling (with school psych?) and Kate won't allow it. Even back during expell gate when Kate said the kids were getting counseling and she even found one that would come to the house, I didn't believe it. The last thing a verbal and physical child abuser wants is kids having one on one time with a mandated reporter.

wayward said...

Parent In Lancaster County said... 120
The two of them are legitimately jellus, they both need to put their big girl panties on and get over themselves.

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Where does Al buy his big girl panties? Good's Store? :)
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Only if they are made from a floursack. If not, he can just borrow a pair from Polly ;)

Anonymous said...

Parent In Lancaster County said... 113

Did you read the book? She wrote that she told the baby the facts of life and he just gazed at her with a blank stare, and she did not know if she got through to him. Or something to that effect. It was the most bizzare thing in reasoning I have ever tried to understand.

They were only 2 years old, and they were pre-mature, which means they were not even on a 2 year old mental level yet, but she thought they should be comprehending wtf she was trying to say!

AuntieAnn said...

LANCASTER COUNTY, Pa. —

No changes to the foster care system are expected despite a 3-year-old girl being near death, her foster father behind bars and a state investigation.
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What kind of monsters are these people? How mentally depraved does one have to be to beat children for vomiting?

Or pooping?


There are no words.

Lynn W. said...

J? My guess is it means she's joking about what she has just typed. The period on my keyboard is quite a distance from the J. Like 5 keys to the right. I figure all keyboards are the same, like computer keyboards.

Greedy Gosselins said...

I've noticed (really, how could you not??) that Kate treats her children like animals. And the result is that they do sometimes act that way. Those kids never really had a chance. What a shame. Alllll that help that bitch got and the kids are no better for it. Ridiculous.

Maggie said...

Amin. are you going to continue to cover the Hoffman book? If not, why?

Moi said...

I wish Robert would stop by this blog again...

We need a new thread!

localyocul said...

Local Philly ABC just had a commercial for Katie today at 3a and it included Kate, Theresa and Abbie. I have looked high and liw for the video of something and I can't find it...When Katie was doing her promo blitz for her show I saw a segment where she was asked who her least favorite interview was. I swear to G-d she said "mothers of multiples". That's why I was so shocked when I saw Kate was to be on the show. I looked for the clip but she went on so many shows I just can't find it.

Anonymous said...

Is KG going to talk about this blog and others, and how she is being bullied?

Info about today's show is posted on KC site. They changed the story line?

How can she say she is a famous top reality star when both of her show were scripts, start to end?

KG what exactly do you WANT? Do you even know?


localyocul said...

Theresa just tweeted AGAIN about her being on Monday! I'm so confused. Maybe SHE has her own show on Monday. Perhaps she channeled someone and Katie wants her one on one LOL

Think, sheeple, think said...

Anonymous said...He had the option to find a place to live near his children, rather than in another state. Kate did not have the power to ban him from Pennsylvania.

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Why would Jon have needed to have a place to live in PA when, during that time, visitation took place at the McMansion?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said... 134

Admin, r u ok?

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I'm not Admin, but I'm sure she's fine --- it's 4am where she lives and I'll bet she's in bed.

TLC stinks said...

Strange she is not tweeting her sheeple about being on Katie Couric.

TLC stinks said...

The fair way for Katie Couric to do the show would be to have reality "talent" and the opposing view like Paul Peterson on with them. All that will happen is the "talent" will lie.

We've been consistently disappointed that no one on TV has attacked the issue of the fakeness of reality TV, because they are hamstrung by their employers (the networks). I do not plan on watching Katie. It will make me too angry.

FYI said...

ROL has a new article saying that Jon was the one who gave Robert the computer files, according to a "source close to the situation".

This article was written by Amber Goodhand, not by David Perel, the Executive VP who has been doing the latest articles.

"But now a source close to the situation has stepped forward and tells Radar that Jon was behind the scheme that enabled Hoffman to gain possession of the hard drives."

Of course, they don't name their source-wonder if the source's initials are AW. The article also refers to Robert as "Rob"--how would they know what nickname, if any, Robert uses.

I also think ROL is getting frustrated, because Jon is not addressing the issue. They want him to give them an exlusive-and he's not.



Kate is a Witch said...

This should be required reading. Satirical and "written" from Honey Boo Boo's point of view, but all too true at the same time:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/you-do-of-course-realize-that-this-is-going-to-end,29734/

TLC stinks said...

ROL works both sides. I'd say the "source" is from Kate's camp. Robert took pictures of the trash to prove that's where he got it. Kate or her "people" are just using ROL to make Jon look bad, as usual.

FYI said...

Now I really believe that ROL's "source" is AW. Especially, since he linked an entry to his blog when he commented on one of the Huff Post's articles. In his blog, he states that because of his involvement in the Gosselin story, he was asked to give his take on the events behind the release of the book.

In that blog, he totally bashes Robert, and indicates that Jon had to be involved. He also states that since he is the author of the "definitive book on the Jon and Kate meltdown from 2009, I do feel qualified to comment on all things Gosselin and Robert Hoffman's role in this story."

AW is scum.

I believe Robert--not some vindictive cry baby.

jillygee said...

Katie Couric comes on at 10 am here, hopefully someone will fall on the sword and watch it lol I can't do it. Looking forward to a recap.

TLC stinks said...

Yeah, I believe it's Al also. Something must have gone down between those two to make Al so bitter and petty. Al went after Jon in his book, so yes, it totally makes sense that he would name Jon giving Robert the hard drive. Al's book was garbage. I guess he hoped to pair up with Robert to redeem himself and make some real money.

FYI said...

Al was also quick on the trigger this morning, tweeting the link to the ROL story at 7:58am.-a little over an hour after the ROL story was published. Plus he just tweeted:

AlWalentis‏@AlWalentis
If Jon did leak Kate's private files for @gosselinbook, might we be looking at criminal charges for receiving stolen property? @kateplusmy8

He's definitely out to do a hatchet job on Robert, just like he did with Jon in his book.

mamaK said...

You know, when they shared the house for custody times, Jon rented an apartment in NY, which is the only way we know where he was. Kate didn't rent anything, she stayed in hotels. Are the fans assuming that she stayed at a hotel right down the street and wasn't herself frequently staying at a hotel in NY??? I doubt it, and I don't see how that would be different.
For Jon, who was trying to get back into television, it made more sense to be in NY. And it was what? 2-3 hrs away?

Thanks for the shout out, Admin. It's frustrating cuz what is in RH's book is the same as what is in Kate's OWN book, just the spanking parts removed. And what is in her book is still hard to take! I can't understand why people think she is a role model. Ugh!

Improbable Dreams said...

Kate is a twit said... 119
Just wanted to clarify something. April is National Child Abuse Prevention Month, not October.
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Right, but October is Bullying Awareness Month....cuts an even wider swath.

Anonymous said...

For some odd reason, I sat down and watched "Surviving Sextuplets and Twins" on youtube this morning. Watching it now, 7 years later...so, was Khate's destiny predetermined or did she set the wheels in motion even that early?

At 38:20 mark she says, "When everyone else walks away and when everyone else disappears, um, we've got each other. God's providing for us in one way or another it's happening."

Was she talking about the volunteers that she NEVER mentioned in the entire 40 minutes? (there were notes all over the house - someone else was in the house) Or was she talking about someone else?

Within 3 minutes of tape, she grifted $1,150 of products at Sam's and bared the "jowls of the dog" on tape for some generous plastic surgeon to see.

I know I watched this when it was first on. I do remember thinking they were quite odd for putting themselves on TV, but the kids were cute.



Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kate is a twit said... 119
Just wanted to clarify something. April is National Child Abuse Prevention Month, not October.
_______________________________________

I believe Oct. is National Child Abuse Prev Month in Canada.

TLC stinks said...

Well, maybe Robert may sometime explain what Al's problem is with him. Al must have hard feelings that their pairing up for the book did not work out.

Sure points the finger to Al as the ROL source with the early a.m. tweet to Kate and the ROL link. What a vengeful, immature jerk.

jillygee, since the Katie Couric show airs in your area at 10 a.m., it must have been pre-taped, maybe yesterday at noon. Explains Kate's tweeter silence. Like I said, you'd think she's be tweeting to watch the show. Maybe something bad did happen. Still not gonna watch.

FYI said...

Improbable Dreams said... 149

Thanks-I didn't know that.

Anonymous said...

continuing #150 -

I forgot to say, that YES, they were already set up to grift - that is obvious from before Robert's book.

But what about the comment about people leaving them?

Ava said...

For all hoping that someone will take Kate to task during an interview, it's not going to happen. The closest thing was Whoopi calling Kate out about being at the house during Jon's visitation. Kate only does interviews in which the questions have been pre-approved. Unless she gets really desperate I don't think she'll ever do a "real" interview. It's just not in her best interest and her handlers know that. She can barely handle the pre-planned interviews. I'm sure Julie knows that a real interview would be a trainwreck. It's better for them to spin, lie and ignore.

I doubt we'll ever see Kate publicly have to answer for all that she's done. I think Kate's fall into obscurity is about all we'll see. Seems like she's already doing z-list stuff and pretty soon, even those offers will stop coming in. She'll always have her sheeple to grift from but that's not enough to satisfy the grifting queen.

I'm sure she has enough money to last her for quite awhile but every time she has to pay for something you know it just kills her. I just hope the kids are able to pry their college tuition from her. That's the very least that they deserve.

I think Kate's kharma is her own never-ending unhappiness.

FYI said...

koop dedoo--that show was taped around Sept. 2005. She could have been referring to the nurse, the helpers AND her parents.

Winsomeone said...

I read Polly's book when it first came out..it was in e-book form. It had as many mistakes as Robert's book does, and was poorly written. The only thing I really remember from it, is how it mainly consisted of blog postings from various people without their permission.She certainly must have done major revising of it, if it is taught in college courses.

Paula said...

Kate has shown no effort to find steady employment and is living off her past earnings. Here’s the thing – without some type of employment that pays good money, Kate will lose that house at some point. Private school tuition for 8 children; mortgage payment; insurance; car payments, etc. - these items can eat through savings at an alarming rate that may surprise Kate. The kids will have a safety net as they can go live with Jon. Where will Kate go?

Berks resident said...

Attended a luncheon the other day with coworkers. Thought I'd bring up the book because we are all locals. Wow, was I surprised that almost every person there had a connection to this witch (and not a positive one!)

1. First person goes to her church. No nice things to say about her. And not at all surprised by the revelations in the book.
2. Second person has close tie to the person who sold Kate the million dollar home. Definitely not nice things to say about her.
3. Person who worked at Reading Hospital and knew her (discussed others giving up their sick days for her and the ungrateful way they were treated)
4. Final person received a ticket while parked on Hefner Road, the paps told her to fight it! We all had some laughs over that one. That was when we all discussed the payola that Lower Heidelberg Twp was receiving from TLC during that time, in order to cover another office to handle the traffic and "domestic" difficulties.

So out of five people, there were five connections and none of them positive.

librarylife said...

Theresa just tweeted AGAIN about her being on Monday! I'm so confused. Maybe SHE has her own show on Monday.
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Monday's show is about "afterlife" and heaven and such. Probably felt that was a more appropriate venue for that guest.

librarylady said...

I think Katie C's show is like Oprah's show was - live in the morning but taped for later showing on other stations. The gold rush guys tweeted a picture of themselves there a few minutes ago and said they were nervous but not really, lol (they sent to Discovery) and had to be there before 8am.

Wonder if Kate's leg will be swinging away...

Dmasy said...

jillygee -- Are you planning on watching at 10:00? Please share details with us if you do. And, if you suggest we don't watch at 3:00, I won't. Thanks.

Formerly Duped said...

a few things;

JW: that's very generous of you. Maybe Admin can post your offer at the top of the post/ I have the book on the Kindle app and don't know how to share so I'm happy you offered. :)

wayward: I don't remember that in Al's book! I'm surprised Kate is still her friend! Look what happened to Nana Janet...quickly!

I also watched some of "Surviving Sextuplets and Twins- A Year Later" last night b/c I wanted to see the then -toddlers greet mama after her surgery- there was a nagging feeling I had...first, Kate looked cute and refreshed, and no good bra- IMO didn't need the BIG size.


But those toddlers stayed still in their cribs, possibly not sure who this smiling lady was. I noticed some of the kids had a dazed look, like they had had too much crib time. I think she really must have stunted their social development. They just did not react as most babies would to see Mommy home. While Alexis was adorable with her Hi Mommy?, I felt the toddlers did not know what to say and seemed very dull and quiet, not knowing what to expect from Mommy Dearest.That scene seemed fake to me but the reaction probably typical.

Think, Rude Person, Think said...

Think, sheeple, think said... 135
Anonymous said...He had the option to find a place to live near his children, rather than in another state. Kate did not have the power to ban him from Pennsylvania.

*********

Why would Jon have needed to have a place to live in PA when, during that time, visitation took place at the McMansion?

**********

The poster to whom I responded indicated that Jon had no options other than to do what he did, which was to move to another state. I merely pointed out the undeniable fact that he did have the option to live closer to his children. You seem to be conveniently forgetting that he went long periods without seeing them.

Jane said...

An ad for Katie's show just appeared on WABC 7 in NY. Kate, Theresa, Abby and the Gold Rush guys were all mentioned. I think the voice-over was "The reality stars you love to hate." It's on at 3 pm here.

Improbable Dreams said...

Is the Book Club on hold for now? I'd love to see a summary post on the next handful of chapters, but only if Admin feels comfortable in putting it up. I haven't read anything here to that effect, but with so many comments being posted lately, I'm beginning to wonder if maybe I've missed an announcement about that.

Anonymous said...

The poster to whom I responded indicated that Jon had no options other than to do what he did, which was to move to another state. I merely pointed out the undeniable fact that he did have the option to live closer to his children. You seem to be conveniently forgetting that he went long periods without seeing them.
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And you know for a fact that Jon was giving 100% access to the kids at all times? That Kate, TLC/Discovery and their lawyers didn't reinforce custody with an iron fist?

He only recently got 50/50 custody, which, it has been alleged, he had to fight tooth and nail to get. And only got because something may/may not have happened to the kids, which put things in his favor.

It is hard to judge because we do not have all the facts re what Jon did/did not do. After seeing the way his divorce was planned by TLC, I can only imagine the custody battles, not with Kate, but with the TV network.

heather

TLC stinks said...

Berks, so TLC was paying the township for the police officers to come and handle the paps so Kate could make her high speed getaways?

Staffers at the hospital were generous enough to give up their sick days so Kate could use them and get a salary? And never a word of thanks from the witch? No payback to people who probably needed their sick days? Nothing? And her with her millions.

Anonymous said...

Formerly Duped #163 -

My take on the toddlers in the cribs (in the show I watched, in the show you watched) -

I was always amazed that they didn't reach out for Mommy (or Daddy). NOW I know that perhaps it was take 4, the toddlers are just staring at the camera, not interacting with Mom or Dad.

I always suspected that Alexis was the only toddler at the time of the tummy tuck that could say "Hi, Mommy" well enough that the audience would understand the words. AND I never really believed that while the toddler was saying "hi, Mommy" that the toddler knew that lady smiling and giggling in front of her WAS Mommy.

FYI said...

Someone tweeted this about an hour ago:

"Abby Lee Miller is on the Katie Couric show that I'm at right now..... OH MY GOD"

So apparently Kate isn't the only one on the show.

librarylife 160-you're assumption about Teresa Caputo is probably correct.

librarylady said...

From the live audience blogger at Katie C's show (they always have one for each show, I think) - already the Khaters and sheeple are all over her...

Kim-Marie ‏@LuxuryTravelMom
Excited to be the live blogger @KatieShow today. Guests are Kate Gosselin and Dance Moms-love them? Hate them? Tell me...

‏@SchmeckyGirl
@LuxuryTravelMom @katieshow @Kateplusmy8
Kate Gosselin journaled her abuse of her children. What mother does that?!?! @GosselinBook

KimMarieie ‏@LuxuryTravelMom
@SchmeckyGirl @KatieShow @Kateplusmy8 @GosselinBook
I heard about that. I've never had 8 kids so I don't judge, but wouldn't write about it

(stuff I won't copy)

Schmeckygirl @schmeckygirl
@LuxuryTravelMom @katieshow @kateplusmy8 @gosselinbook
I don't think the number of kids you have excuses abuse. In fact, I know it doesn't.

Kim-Marie ‏@LuxuryTravelMom
@SchmeckyGirl @katieshow @kateplusmy8 @gosselinbook
wow , had not sen this. Today should be interesting. Hope @katiecouric asks the hard ?'s

Kitty Fitzgerald ‏@kittyFitz50

Can you really believe you just wrote that?! @LuxuryTravelMom @SchmeckyGirl @KatieShow @Kateplusmy8 @GosselinBook


Jane said...

TLC stinks said... 168
Berks, so TLC was paying the township for the police officers to come and handle the paps so Kate could make her high speed getaways?

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There are passages in the book where RH observed the local police blocking paps from following Kate while she sped away, in excess of 90 mph. He often observed her talking to them for much more than a few minutes while she was parked the wrong way in a fire zone at the UPS store.

Rhymes with Witch said...

just not sure if they could legally, if not ethically, destroy all that footage before they file suit against Robert.

TLC -ETHICAL? Bwahahahahahah!

But my theory is that initially some tv show set Jon up in that apartment in NYC. They were going to make a show about him, or divorced dads, or something. 87

I've thought that too, plus as someone else mentioned, on his custody time he would be staying in the house (or so he believed).

In that blog, he totally bashes Robert, and indicates that Jon had to be involved. 144

Al's book was a piece of poorly written piece of tabloid trash that bashed Jon and barely mentioned Kate. No respect for him or WG, whose book I did not bother with, mostly because she was so sanctimonious about it.

Berks resident said...

TLC stinks:

Here is a link to the story about the township:
http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=384094

Re: hospital sick days - this comes from a person who worked there and is unsubstantiated. (Don't want Al calling me out) Just came up in conversation among a LOT of other things...however, I tend to believe it. They said she took all the days and then quit.

Where's the truth said...

Thoughts this morning....I think Milo---My Lover...is paid to defend Kate. And I don't think he/she likes Kate. That's why their posts are sometimes odd sounding....on occasion you can hear the underlining disdain for Kate. But I guess a job is a job, even when defending a person that beats a preemie toddler in anger. Milo posts exactly the opposite of reality. Snark.

But, I think the abuse of the poor dog is finally getting to Milo.

With all the health issues of preemies...who in their right mind would intentionally create them? A psychopath?

Think, Rude Person, Think said...

Anonymous said... 167
The poster to whom I responded indicated that Jon had no options other than to do what he did, which was to move to another state. I merely pointed out the undeniable fact that he did have the option to live closer to his children. You seem to be conveniently forgetting that he went long periods without seeing them.
___

And you know for a fact that Jon was giving 100% access to the kids at all times? That Kate, TLC/Discovery and their lawyers didn't reinforce custody with an iron fist?

He only recently got 50/50 custody, which, it has been alleged, he had to fight tooth and nail to get. And only got because something may/may not have happened to the kids, which put things in his favor.

It is hard to judge because we do not have all the facts re what Jon did/did not do. After seeing the way his divorce was planned by TLC, I can only imagine the custody battles, not with Kate, but with the TV network.

heather
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Where did I say that he had 100% access to the kids at all times? That's right, I didn't. Stop deflecting. The fact remains that Jon Gosselin moved away from his children that his wife apparently was abusing. Spin that any way you want. He will still be responsible for that very poor choice.

JW said...

Formerly Duped said... 163
a few things;

JW: that's very generous of you. Maybe Admin can post your offer at the top of the post/ I have the book on the Kindle app and don't know how to share so I'm happy you offered. :)
**********************************************
Well I'll leave that up to Admin but that would be okay with me. The more people that read this book, the better, even though it is a very difficult book to read. :(


The twit's tweets said...

TLC stinks said... 152

Well, maybe Robert may sometime explain what Al's problem is with him. Al must have hard feelings that their pairing up for the book did not work out.

**********

From what I understand, their problems stem from the fact that Robert refused to let Al use his work in the book and caused him to re-write parts and caused a publishing delay. I believe the book was the cause of their problems. They were friends/co-workers before that.

Anonymous said...

Where did I say that he had 100% access to the kids at all times? That's right, I didn't. Stop deflecting. The fact remains that Jon Gosselin moved away from his children that his wife apparently was abusing. Spin that any way you want. He will still be responsible for that very poor choice.

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My point is this: You do not know what Jon could or couldn't do. I also thought Jon was a jerk for his behavior, BUT after reading the section on how he couldn't even participate in his own divorce, as Discovery decided FOR HIM what his divorce was going to be, I have no idea how custody was handled. I have NO idea how much time he was given to be with the kids.

You can argue till the cows come home, but no one here (unless there are insiders) knows how much time Kate/TLC/Discovery allowed Jon to be with his kids.

And my guess would be ZERO, as they were still filming the crap out of them without Jon.

But no one really knows.

heather

DFWMom said...

I never post song lyrics, but today I heard Taylor Swift's Mean and I think it should be dedicated to Kate from her children.

You, with your words like knives
And swords and weapons that you use against me
You have knocked me off my feet again
Got me feeling like I'm nothing
You, with your voice like nails on a chalkboard
Calling me out when I'm wounded
You picking on the weaker man

You can take me down with just one single blow
But you don't know, what you don't know...

Someday I'll be living in a big ol' city
And all you're ever gonna be is mean
Someday I'll be big enough so you can't hit me
And all you're ever gonna be is mean
Why you gotta be so mean?

You, with your switching sides
And your wildfire lies and your humiliation
You have pointed out my flaws again
As if I don't already see them
I walk with my head down
Trying to block you out 'cause I'll never impress you
I just wanna feel okay again

I bet you got pushed around
Somebody made you cold
But the cycle ends right now
'Cause you can't lead me down that road
And you don't know, what you don't know...

Someday I'll be living in a big ol' city
And all you're ever gonna be is mean
Someday I'll be big enough so you can't hit me
And all you're ever gonna be is mean
Why you gotta be so mean?

And I can see you years from now in a bar
Talking over a football game
With that same big loud opinion
But nobody's listening
Washed up and ranting about the same old bitter things
Drunk and grumbling on about how I can't sing
But all you are is mean

All you are is mean
And a liar, and pathetic, and alone in life
And mean, and mean, and mean, and mean

But someday I'll be living in a big ol' city
And all you're ever gonna be is mean, yeah
Someday I'll be big enough so you can't hit me
And all you're ever gonna be is mean
Why you gotta be so?..

Someday I'll be living in a big ol' city (Why you gotta be so?..)
And all you're ever gonna be is mean (Why you gotta be so?..)
Someday I'll be big enough so you can't hit me (Why you gotta be so?..)
And all you're ever gonna be is mean
Why you gotta be so mean?



mscatie said...

Think, Rude Person, Think said... 164
You seem to be conveniently forgetting that he went long periods without seeing them.
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Did he? For how long and when was this? The book mentions he flew back for visitation at least once & this happened:

From the book...

"Jon is only allowed at the house on certain days and if he can’t make it to the house at exactly the time when he’s scheduled to be there, Kate punishes him by canceling his custody all together. He flew from Utah to Pennsylvania and his flight was delayed and he told Kate over the phone that he would be late getting there and she told him “if you can’t be here when it’s your custody time, don’t bother coming at all.”

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 16105-16108). . Kindle Edition.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

@LuxuryTravelMom
@ashymama2 @SchmeckyGirl @acemme @KatieShow @Kateplusmy8 @katiecouric was just in green room, confirmed that Kate is on. Will live tweet.
_______________________________

You who are interested might want to follow this person's tweets.

Where's the truth said...

I think Robert's biggest mistake, was not to send the book to ALL the media outlets and talk shows as soon as it was finished. That way everyone would know all at once exactly what was in the book. Usually advance book copies are sent out free for reviews.

Maybe whoever can send it via email should send copies to bloggers and on-line journalists...including people like Oprah and Dr, Phil.

That way the focus will turn back to what is in the book.

TLC stinks said...

Oh, I remember Al said someone backed out. Now Al is taking his revenge because his book is crap.

Anonymous said...

Admin,

Would it have been legally possibly for TLC/Discovery to file a restraining order against Jon to keep him away from TLC filming, aka, his kids/McMansion?

This has crossed my mind.

heather

Think, Rude Person, Think said...

Anonymous said... 179

My point is this: You do not know what Jon could or couldn't do. I also thought Jon was a jerk for his behavior, BUT after reading the section on how he couldn't even participate in his own divorce, as Discovery decided FOR HIM what his divorce was going to be, I have no idea how custody was handled. I have NO idea how much time he was given to be with the kids.

You can argue till the cows come home, but no one here (unless there are insiders) knows how much time Kate/TLC/Discovery allowed Jon to be with his kids.

And my guess would be ZERO, as they were still filming the crap out of them without Jon.

But no one really knows.

heather

****************

That's all well and good, but has nothing to do with my original post that received the rude "think, sheeple, think" remark. I was told to "think" because I stated an undeniable fact -- Jon Gosselin made the CHOICE to leave the state of Pennsylvania. I did not conjecture beyond that.

TLC stinks said...

Thx. I hope Kate is squirming.

FYI said...

There are 2 people tweeting live from Katie's show:

http://twitter.com/suesmith666

http://twitter.com/LuxuryTravelMom

Kate, Abby Lee Miller, and the cast of Gold Rush are there.

They are taping it now.

jillygee said...

Well, apparently Katie Couric is on twice a day, who knew? It's on right now on one station the subject is bullying. It comes on at 3:00 on another station and that is when KG will be on. It really is interesting how there was not a peep about this on her twitter.

Monica said...

I read all the time but don't often post. Is it only me or does anyone else wish that Anonymous would give it a rest?

TLC stinks said...

Thx Berks. I read about her calling the cops, just didn't know TLC was involved. Kate sure cost them them plenty of $$$. No wonder she thought and still thinks she is royalty.

Don't tweeter, so let us know. Wonder if Stevie is in the audience. I bet she pent yesterday memorizing her lines.

FYI said...

One of the comments at ROL said:

"Jon didn't give Robert the hard drives. Kate threw them in the trash. Her old employer (Discovery) verified this claim in another interview in a entirely different news outlet."

AW responded to that comment with "What is the source for this?"

Al, getting a little worried that your info to ROL will be discredited?

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kim-Marie ‏@LuxuryTravelMom
Ok, Kate Gosselin is in the house. She is thin and looks great. This should be interesting.

Kim-Marie ‏@LuxuryTravelMom
Kate Gosselin says she has only 15-20 hours of help per week. Not sure I believe her.

t said...

You don't need a twitter account to follow, btw:

https://twitter.com/LuxuryTravelMom

FYI said...

Kate's being interviewed now.

Kim-Marie ‏@LuxuryTravelMom
Kate Gosselin says she has only 15-20 hours of help per week. Not sure I believe her.



Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kim-Marie ‏@LuxuryTravelMom
Some real honesty from @kateplusmy8 learning to let go of being so tough.

TLC stinks said...

We will concede Jon was not perfect, but why ignore the evil that is Kate? I agree Monica. Anonymous needs to go back to her blog.

FYI said...

Do you think this live blogger is a little biased:

sue smith‏@suesmith666
I don't care what they say, you da best Kate! I watched the WHOLE SERIES on netflix last week. @kateplusmy8 @KatieShow

Tweetle-Are you going to post all the live tweets about Kate? If so, I won't, so that we won't have repetitive posts.

Where's the truth said...

"15-20 hours of help per week" per employee....lol

aggiemom09121416 said...

Where's the truth said... 199

"15-20 hours of help per week" per employee....lol
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GOOD ONE, hahha, hilarious!

FYI said...

sue smith‏@suesmith666

REAL TALK from @katiecouric asking @kateplusmy8 about dating, Jon, and ABOUT THE BOOK!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kim-Marie ‏@LuxuryTravelMom
Good job @katiecouric asking @Kateplusmy8 why she doesn't just go back to nursing. Says she can't afford it. Hmm.

Where's the truth said...

"learning to let go of being so tough"....??? LOL, I wonder what PR firm came up with that!!

People don't change without a lot of work...and not overnight. NOT buying it!

TLC stinks said...

Ok, now she is transforming herself into the " softer" Kate. Blah!

FYI said...


Kim-Marie ‏@LuxuryTravelMom

@katiecouric asking about the book. @Kateplusmy8 says she's "advised not to say anything about it" - she has lawyers on it.


Kim-Marie ‏@LuxuryTravelMom

Good job @katiecouric asking @Kateplusmy8 why she doesn't just go back to nursing. Says she can't afford it. Hmm.

Knows Quality said...

Wow...

@katiecouric asking about the book. @Kateplusmy8 says she's "advised not to say anything about it" - she has lawyers on it.

Kudos to Katie Couric for asking about "the book"!!!!

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kim-Marie ‏@LuxuryTravelMom
Hey tweeps, @katiecouric says she's asking the tough questions because her twitter followers asked her to. @katieshow. #loveher

Kim-Marie ‏@LuxuryTravelMom
@katiecouric asking about the book. @Kateplusmy8 says she's "advised not to say anything about it" - she has lawyers on it.

Jane said...

Kate's not going to let a trip to NYC complete with hair and makeup go without additional interviews. Wonder where she'll turn up next?

Knows Quality said...

"learning to let go of being so tough"....


That's Kate-speak for acknowledging the child abuse....

Where's the truth said...

...well, we all knew that's what she would say about the book....:)

I think someone should email a copy of the book to Kate C. PLEASE!!

librarylady said...

Luxury travel mom blogger, who appears to really have no special interest - hate or like - in kate and objective, apparently is a little suspicious of The Kate's responses, lol.

The other blogger, however, is already a sheeple by her own admission.

TLC stinks said...

Congrats, Robert! Katie Couric asked about your book. It is now officially past the tabloid stage.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kim-Marie ‏@LuxuryTravelMom
They've moved on to Coupon Cabin-back to the soft stuff. Katie did not take it easy on her though. You'll be proud. @KatieShow

capecodmama said...

Noticed on my calendar that Monday, October 8, is National Children's Day.

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